From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 00:48:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D1F183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=emmu53KYL7l5NEsYQgXrbmfOYrG8206Z5sl0ADA0TqI=; b=ucrKfq7QbJNC5lwqPL2pviYeizBoYWR2ZJe46xKfwe5WS3SEwyvkrGHRSFbZJMBRIG i67QQuMj2075vAP2zRRCIB2+y47m2q3OdmtdjLGfI3b9dTbFk0f6tDaUzZAuKJQfNkZg QXzZkSa7NG/rD2epXfX7ZYM9qpgqx5n318tok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FQnf8ZD2LpvOzu6/GrpSEN55+rhIzGQAwH8OwXPYdBuMuUqdElQfA5TKIjRhDRy3o5 VcUnn26m679BCQJ3VXzBJhkbHhB35PyNXs+yBqKQVZkgaGZpokFZy0Oi8fQ4W+1MrsAC vr7XRuWB3YWLwDqreS43MYUBpF0wqz2yb9M4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:48:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording an album From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:48:57 +0000 (UTC) > i think it was matt davignon (please confirm if i'm > wrong here MATT, my old brain works not great lately!) who emailed me to > tell me he records all his stuff w/ the zoom h2 (endless hrs of stuff) then > transfers to computer and edits down to the good stuff to > release things. man i thought that was a great process, let the creativity > roll, pull good stuff later.... Yup, that's exactly what I've been doing. It works great if you're only using sources that are REAL-TIME and DIRECT. Now I'm trying to re-enter the world of computer multitracking (using a laptop and Adobe Audition). It's terribly humbling. It took me more than a year of cursing to figure out how to get it so that your 2nd track doesn't include the monitor mix of your first track. Still can't figure it out for my other computer. The next challenge will be getting a loud enough signal that I don't have to noise-reduce every track. In every recording session I have about an hour of productivity before I get fed up and storm off. For being an electronic musician, I know very little about technology. :( -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 01:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D72E183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9d9cf669-6dc8-4aa6-a347-e9a611c2a2a7_" X-Originating-IP: [213.249.248.88] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:25:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-6417011445927401828@unknownmsgid> References: ,,<-6417011445927401828@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2011 01:25:36.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[90FCB400:01CBD7AF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:25:38 +0000 (UTC) --_9d9cf669-6dc8-4aa6-a347-e9a611c2a2a7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy mark =20 changing clock times results in pitch shift of audio recorded...if that is = good or bad depends completely on your outlook musically=2C i would descrip= e it as a rather sticky mess=2C but then given the right aplication im sure= it could be used as a great effect...as always the tool is what it is...it= s how you use it. =20 the transitional period is to my ear chaotic and elastic...but it does seem= to keep relative time once it has slowed but obviously at a lower pitch (r= everse for bmp increase) =20 in my aplication its not an issue as i sync it to the relativly static edp = clock=2C if you have heard the repeaters time/pitch slide as you scroll=2C = its not dissimilar...somehow not as pretty though. =20 the only big one to remember is to erase loop content before restarting at = a new speed...ive had some horrible sets where i have done an echoplex mul= tiply to record funtion which ends up with a differant clock time...this ba= sicsally messes with all recorded kopro material to some random half arsed = non-pitch. =20 again it wouldnt supprise me at all if someone could work this into an awes= ome mutch longed for feature...especially with the very controlled clocks o= f something like the looperlative. =20 =20 =20 om: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 28 Feb 2011 21:52:23 +0100 > Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > But here's a question (or experiment) for you Philip... So you say > it's an audio looper=2C that syncs pretty good from midi clock??? So... > What happens if you slow down the clock? >=20 >=20 > Mark >=20 > > >=20 = --_9d9cf669-6dc8-4aa6-a347-e9a611c2a2a7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable howdy mark
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changing clock times results in =3Bpitch shift of audio recorded...if t= hat is good or bad depends completely on your outlook musically=2C i would = descripe it as a rather sticky mess=2C but then given the right aplication = im sure it could be used as a great effect...as always the tool is what it = is...its how you use it.
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the transitional period is to my ear chaotic and elastic...but it does seem= to keep relative time once it has slowed but obviously at a lower pitch (r= everse for bmp increase)
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= --_9d9cf669-6dc8-4aa6-a347-e9a611c2a2a7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 04:50:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97172183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 04:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: SONIC HAIKU Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:50:01 -0600 Message-ID: <004d01cbd7cc$21086690$631933b0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQMtGLWG+d6jkFb+R5tlTgnsk2yV/5FVZIew X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <3cH3rB.A.ReB.KsHbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 04:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Very cool! "Overwhelmed by You" , in the Volume3 of Loopers Delight Compilation (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/loopersdelight) ; lyrics are a haiku, the underlying background measures are 5,7, 5 patterns. It's longer than 30 seconds though. ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.scribbledmusings.com www.zenstorming.com -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:53 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: SONIC HAIKU Todd Mathews asked me to send him the little melodica improv I made with a terrible mic and he sent me back this short beautiful piece of music and video that he made. On 2/27/11 3:52 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: I took my bass and a zoom recorder to a long cement tunnel today and here's a lil' 30 sec snippet: http://flic.kr/p/9mzTAh I just thought it was a very hip audio/visual haiku and I asked him if it would be okay to share it with the list along with a request to see if other people on the list would be into making some very, very short form audio/visual pieces in the spirit of a Sonic Haiku................let's say 30 seconds, max He wrote this back: "Sounds great!! I'm in. You can post the link to it to kick off the Sonic Haiku thread. This could end up being a really cool thread. Like the Twitter of LD :)" I like it...............the Twitter of LD!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 06:36:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B9BA183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a25057f4-67a5-42ac-9d53-5c73920caee1_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.137.13] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: mac bidule to vst Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:36:09 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2011 06:36:09.0479 (UTC) FILETIME=[F34AA970:01CBD7DA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:36:10 +0000 (UTC) --_a25057f4-67a5-42ac-9d53-5c73920caee1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys=2C=20 Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can run= VST plugins on it using a mac? I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts =3B-) peace g Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ = --_a25057f4-67a5-42ac-9d53-5c73920caee1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys=2C

Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's tr= ue that you can run VST plugins on it using a mac?
I read it somewhere b= ut wanted to run it past the experts =3B-)

peace

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= --_a25057f4-67a5-42ac-9d53-5c73920caee1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 06:48:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F8F183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qj17hu9mC37MhtLpQzUrplW+nwSEosx2s9BqI+QczKs=; b=L9J7VnNzhQZR51/GGHTAIUeDsONcZTj4fRVw79E2U/nBTIcRM38/itgU6+3xeqI2oo 4g3ka8GYyBT1Pkg6bi6fIRdjnUNLNqFHE+vZKIotuouVdFE0x/Xq59nFRR/PlTcu2iLT 3FEq7FCejMWFwFeXEAKetHw6XbPWhVfut6qws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rxbWUnaxcoeUI57089g78OXlL43KGlnMOKLDqqyIXoxVVQUUnJ2iBokwC6VmyeqzMF c3xlbC+n8X2eJmn18EbFcLC0OJ8xGVMtsU2hzvWdjqw8X+HuUaKYlBEPgNN6zUF2bvL/ YUG0siN0RdO6kIMiNmaR7AE7hjOWHCUx7zU4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 01:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4Gzzo.A.5vE.maJbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:48:06 +0000 (UTC) I don't have an answer but I strongly recommend posting on bidule's forum as well. generally seb is quite prompt with his responses. - Jim On Tuesday, March 1, 2011, Gareth Whittock wrote= : > > > > > > Hi guys, > > Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can r= un VST plugins on it using a mac? > I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts ;-) > > peace > > g > > Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > =09 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 06:54:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B9B0183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2bf59de5-6f67-4c46-84a3-50977b15e755_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.137.13] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: mac bidule to vst Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:54:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2011 06:54:42.0588 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AC19DC0:01CBD7DD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:54:43 +0000 (UTC) --_2bf59de5-6f67-4c46-84a3-50977b15e755_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks James g Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Tue=2C 1 Mar 2011 01:48:05 -0500 > Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst > From: twostroke@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I don't have an answer but I strongly recommend posting on bidule's > forum as well. > generally seb is quite prompt with his responses. >=20 > - Jim >=20 > On Tuesday=2C March 1=2C 2011=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys=2C > > > > Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can= run VST plugins on it using a mac? > > I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts =3B-) > > > > peace > > > > g > > > > Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > > > =09 > > >=20 = --_2bf59de5-6f67-4c46-84a3-50977b15e755_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks James

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= = --_2bf59de5-6f67-4c46-84a3-50977b15e755_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 07:48:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70B6183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m9w0vC6A5TVmDwdhiC1k9w6mzjjrgaJ/YuUDf/5EJCw=; b=lbjXcS3MCTP6TUBh/OwZa8xz6Z1O/YT7jaqN4fAjcbsZ85hO1hLI1ZEGAL6/p41dfZ vGpRCQJvEbH+DfldLKlf9Zn0VUGAaDsu1gA7jpwxHwRm1u1Lh/4J0Gz6M/U3SMHJqBjf o58L3eI2iGDG4KtHumpo/1W+ipLQJ98ic2Wzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Cm7jGpmCDi0rekRRpl+to/TG9/4aX+iWriRByw7JrV63es4Liaf+nhUDHUh9voE1U/ 5pSR7NkRBdmcwClW3K/f82MfPmo4ds1RAY5vfTpGnpmz/qODBbDA0PybSGlOTVbo0CMQ xu5tOIK41Z/HH8hgGHx4JVJ/ynUAD26sE4cLQ= References: <-6417011445927401828@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:47:49 +0100 Message-ID: <-4165733281605784232@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Yikes!! Sounds awful!!! I will also be synching to EDP, so sounds like I'll be ok. So kicking the EDP into half speed creates a terrible mess I suppose? I'll have to hear this mess to hear if I like it... LOL One new question that this throws up us that I guess this pretty much rules out starting a loop on the KPro, as you start a loop. For example setting up a BPM by pressing UNDO in reset, and selecting BPM by Feedback knob, there's no way to start the thing without hitting a button. But this us what you said right out... Only NOW do I get that... Der Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 1 Mar 2011, at 02:25, phillip wilson wrote: > howdy mark > > changing clock times results in pitch shift of audio recorded...if that i= s good or bad depends completely on your outlook musically, i would descrip= e it as a rather sticky mess, but then given the right aplication im sure i= t could be used as a great effect...as always the tool is what it is...its = how you use it. > > the transitional period is to my ear chaotic and elastic...but it does se= em to keep relative time once it has slowed but obviously at a lower pitch = (reverse for bmp increase) > > in my aplication its not an issue as i sync it to the relativly static ed= p clock, if you have heard the repeaters time/pitch slide as you scroll, it= s not dissimilar...somehow not as pretty though. > > the only big one to remember is to erase loop content before restarting a= t a new speed...ive had some horrible sets where i have done an echoplex m= ultiply to record funtion which ends up with a differant clock time...this = basicsally messes with all recorded kopro material to some random half arse= d non-pitch. > > again it wouldnt supprise me at all if someone could work this into an aw= esome mutch longed for feature...especially with the very controlled clocks= of something like the looperlative. > > > > om: markfrancombe@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:52:23 +0100 > > Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > But here's a question (or experiment) for you Philip... So you say > > it's an audio looper, that syncs pretty good from midi clock??? So... > > What happens if you slow down the clock? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 08:21:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05E00183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577669377/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.253/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.253 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4CALM7bE1V0rP9/2dsb2JhbAAMmCvKHoVhBI9S X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,246,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="577669377" Message-ID: <4D6CAC98.6020905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:21:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Sure it can, but they have to be vsts that are compiled with a Mac. You can also use it to wrap vst>>au and vice versa. andy Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi guys, > > Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can > run VST plugins on it using a mac? > I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 09:55:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECD11183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4dee74e2-5eab-47c9-a453-a17239055635_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:55:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <-4165733281605784232@unknownmsgid> References: , <-6417011445927401828@unknownmsgid>,,<-4165733281605784232@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2011 09:55:43.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[D436F810:01CBD7F6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:55:44 +0000 (UTC) --_4dee74e2-5eab-47c9-a453-a17239055635_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correct my friend. btw=2C non of this was a knock on the KoPro.. I love this instrument. It is a great hybrid of instrument=2C contr= oller and looper and I think you will LOVE the ability to cut down a recorded phr= ase to tiny tiny subdivisions ie from 16 bars to quarter notes. I love making beds of sound like this . =20 Ive never used pre-recorded phrases so I cant give you a definitive starting the ko p= ro with material already in it =2C I imagine if you recorded phrase A at 120bpm =2C then at a later point set the EDP to 120 bm= p=2C the phrase would remain unchanged in pitch. However starting it would still be = a manual task. =20 I think starting from a fresh palette for each new performance is definetly the modus operandi. > From: markfrancombe@gmail.com > Date: Tue=2C 1 Mar 2011 08:47:49 +0100 > Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Yikes!! Sounds awful!!! I will also be synching to EDP=2C so sounds like > I'll be ok. > So kicking the EDP into half speed creates a terrible mess I suppose? > I'll have to hear this mess to hear if I like it... LOL >=20 > One new question that this throws up us that I guess this pretty much > rules out starting a loop on the KPro=2C as you start a loop. For > example setting up a BPM by pressing UNDO in reset=2C and selecting BPM > by Feedback knob=2C there's no way to start the thing without hitting a > button. But this us what you said right out... Only NOW do I get > that... > Der >=20 > Mark >=20 > Sent from my (advertisement removed) >=20 > On 1 Mar 2011=2C at 02:25=2C phillip wilson wro= te: >=20 > > howdy mark > > > > changing clock times results in pitch shift of audio recorded...if that= is good or bad depends completely on your outlook musically=2C i would des= cripe it as a rather sticky mess=2C but then given the right aplication im = sure it could be used as a great effect...as always the tool is what it is.= ..its how you use it. > > > > the transitional period is to my ear chaotic and elastic...but it does = seem to keep relative time once it has slowed but obviously at a lower pitc= h (reverse for bmp increase) > > > > in my aplication its not an issue as i sync it to the relativly static = edp clock=2C if you have heard the repeaters time/pitch slide as you scroll= =2C its not dissimilar...somehow not as pretty though. > > > > the only big one to remember is to erase loop content before restarting= at a new speed...ive had some horrible sets where i have done an echoplex = multiply to record funtion which ends up with a differant clock time...thi= s basicsally messes with all recorded kopro material to some random half ar= sed non-pitch. > > > > again it wouldnt supprise me at all if someone could work this into an = awesome mutch longed for feature...especially with the very controlled cloc= ks of something like the looperlative. > > > > > > > > om: markfrancombe@gmail.com > > > Date: Mon=2C 28 Feb 2011 21:52:23 +0100 > > > Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > But here's a question (or experiment) for you Philip... So you say > > > it's an audio looper=2C that syncs pretty good from midi clock??? So.= .. > > > What happens if you slow down the clock? > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 = --_4dee74e2-5eab-47c9-a453-a17239055635_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable correct my friend.


btw=2C non of this was a knock on th= e KoPro.. I love this instrument. It is a great hybrid of instrument=2C contr= oller and looper and I think you will LOVE the ability to cut down a recorded phr= ase to tiny tiny subdivisions =3B ie from 16 bars to quarter notes. I love making beds of sound like this .

 =3B

Ive never used pre-recorded phrases so I cant give you a definitive starting the ko p= ro with material already in it =2C I imagine if you recorded phrase A at 120bpm =2C then at a later point set the EDP to 120 bm= p=2C the phrase would remain unchanged in pitch. However starting it would still be = a manual task.

 =3B

I think starting from =3B a fresh palette for each new performance is definetly the modus operandi.


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>=3B From: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 1 Mar 2= 011 08:47:49 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kao= ssilators
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
&= gt=3B Yikes!! Sounds awful!!! I will also be synching to EDP=2C so sounds l= ike
>=3B I'll be ok.
>=3B So kicking the EDP into half speed crea= tes a terrible mess I suppose?
>=3B I'll have to hear this mess to hea= r if I like it... LOL
>=3B
>=3B One new question that this throw= s up us that I guess this pretty much
>=3B rules out starting a loop o= n the KPro=2C as you start a loop. For
>=3B example setting up a BPM b= y pressing UNDO in reset=2C and selecting BPM
>=3B by Feedback knob=2C= there's no way to start the thing without hitting a
>=3B button. But = this us what you said right out... Only NOW do I get
>=3B that...
&= gt=3B Der
>=3B
>=3B Mark
>=3B
>=3B Sent from my (adve= rtisement removed)
>=3B
>=3B On 1 Mar 2011=2C at 02:25=2C philli= p wilson <=3Bphillwilson@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B howdy mark
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B changing clock times resu= lts in pitch shift of audio recorded...if that is good or bad depends compl= etely on your outlook musically=2C i would descripe it as a rather sticky m= ess=2C but then given the right aplication im sure it could be used as a gr= eat effect...as always the tool is what it is...its how you use it.
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B the transitional period is to my ear chaotic an= d elastic...but it does seem to keep relative time once it has slowed but o= bviously at a lower pitch (reverse for bmp increase)
>=3B >=3B
&g= t=3B >=3B in my aplication its not an issue as i sync it to the relativly= static edp clock=2C if you have heard the repeaters time/pitch slide as yo= u scroll=2C its not dissimilar...somehow not as pretty though.
>=3B &g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B the only big one to remember is to erase loop content= before restarting at a new speed...ive had some horrible sets where i have= done an echoplex multiply to record funtion which ends up with a differan= t clock time...this basicsally messes with all recorded kopro material to s= ome random half arsed non-pitch.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B again it= wouldnt supprise me at all if someone could work this into an awesome mutc= h longed for feature...especially with the very controlled clocks of someth= ing like the looperlative.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B om: markfrancombe@gmail.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B Da= te: Mon=2C 28 Feb 2011 21:52:23 +0100
>=3B >=3B >=3B Subject: Re: = midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators
>=3B >=3B >=3B To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B &g= t=3B But here's a question (or experiment) for you Philip... So you say
= >=3B >=3B >=3B it's an audio looper=2C that syncs pretty good from mi= di clock??? So...
>=3B >=3B >=3B What happens if you slow down the= clock?
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B &g= t=3B Mark
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B = >=3B >=3B
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= --_4dee74e2-5eab-47c9-a453-a17239055635_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 10:29:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9985D18345A; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f5438e26-4e2a-421e-9b04-d947f74b776e_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:29:53 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> References: ,<38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2011 10:29:53.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A8B61A0:01CBD7FB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:29:56 +0000 (UTC) --_f5438e26-4e2a-421e-9b04-d947f74b776e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of sorts MPC 500 Korg Electribe ESX Flame Six In A Row. The MPC I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts=2C recievin= g midi notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes inp= ut from the controller and then play them back in real time wile more note= s are added to this or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling f= unctionality.... not tried it though=2C I just use it for speech samples. ESX this has =2C i think =2C stolen the "first love " crown from the EDP fo= r me=2C I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it has changed me = in the same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an external cont= roller as described above to control the external sound source OR to give = note data to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard" sample tracks available = onboard or you can use its onboard keys to input notes or even more fun the= scailic arpegiator (think mini KoPro) the only issue in this and other m= idi loopers is that if you accidentally overwrite the note on message at t= he loop boundry you just get akward silence for that step=2C so always remo= ve your finger from the controller JUST before the loop point.I also use th= is to midi loop drum parts. (I believe the EMX can be used like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.)=20 Six In A Row. This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind of = a Hybrid of the tenori on / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of li= t rubber buttons=2C you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot = show you the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. you can= then jam up to 4 bar phrases on either of two loop slots plus a separate= drum track ... each can be set for individual midi channels =2C I use mine= with an old MU-7 its ace. From: eterogenus@gmail.com Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators Date: Sun=2C 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I don't have any experience with the kaossilator=2C but I own a Kaoss Pad = II since 2004=2C so my experience with this kind of products is just relate= d to the KPII. I have always expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper".= With all the functions of an EDP=2C but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos th= e thing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked= =2C either by hand=2C or by LFO sweep /modulation routings. I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system=2C a Korg = MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always p= re-programmed them=2C either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the Ko= rg=2C or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the best be= ing called=2C weirdly "Mobius") The Korg is VERY tweakable=2C so a relatively standard patch can easily be = quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation.=20 But theres my problem / wish. TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE=3B WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FRE= ELY IMPROVISED=2C LIVE=2C AND LOOPED.=20 So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes. So=2C to the questions: The Kaosilator PRO.=20 How is it to play..?=20 Is it a proper "Instrument"=20 Can I play it=2C and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a key and scale)???=20 KPII has synth sounds too=2C but not very useful for me. Yes=2C you play wi= thin a key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and scale= ...=2C better checking the manual)=2C but the fact is that IT is like playi= ng a theremin. And it is good in that department=2C if you are looking to t= hat kind of sounds=2C but have to say that it's not allow you to really pla= y melodies...So it's not a "proper instrument"=2C IMO=2C neither really "ra= ndom". Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorte= d acid bass to pop in for 3 notes=2C then silent for 4 bars.. then loop...= =20 OR...=20 Can I quickly loop a little string section=2C=20 OR=2C can I hear a Xylophone in my head=2C and within a few seconds=2C sele= ct a patch=2C and add some twinkles? And Tech questions..=20 How is it at following midi clock?=20 Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.My KP se= nds midi clock out=2C but it can't work as master clock: it just sends out = midi messages (PCs and CCs)=2C ALL using the same MIDI channel. When used as a controller for another synth=2C is all information sent on 2= axis?=20 Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y t= o filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. = which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) Again: better checking the manual(s) !KP sends information on Y and X axis= =2C but do you need to address those info trough different midi channels or= the same ?Do you want to get control over different machines ? Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out=2C making it a mid= i sequncer/looper for an external synth..=20 And finally=2C=20 Whats the on-board audio loopers like? Don't really know about those features=2C sorry. Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4= =2C maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work l= ike a synth too. -fwww.eterogeneo.com IF ALL GOOD... For Sale:=20 Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects Insanly good loop mangler=2C delay=2C filter=2C chopper and very psychedeli= c multi band panner=2C all syncable... Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer) Previously used to automate 2 EDP=B4s (or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...) Mark =20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe = --_f5438e26-4e2a-421e-9b04-d947f74b776e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of sorts

MPC 500
= Korg Electribe ESX
Flame Six In A Row.

The MPC I have read in the= manual can be set in a loop of sorts=2C recieving midi notes from a contro= ller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes input from the controller&nbs= p=3B and then play them back in real time wile more notes are added to this= or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling functionality.... no= t tried it though=2C I just use it for speech samples.

ESX this has = =2C i think =2C stolen the "first love " crown from the EDP for me=2C I hav= e never used such a fun unit in my work and it has changed me in the same w= ay that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an external controller as des= cribed above to control the external sound source OR =3B to give note d= ata to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard" sample tracks available onboar= d or you can use its onboard keys to input notes or even more fun the scail= ic arpegiator =3B (think mini KoPro) =3B the only issue in this and= other midi loopers is that if you accidentally overwrite =3B the note = on message at the loop boundry you just get akward silence for that step=2C= so always remove your finger from the controller JUST before the loop poin= t.I also use this to midi loop drum parts.
(I believe the EMX can be use= d like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.)

Six In A Row. This is = a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind of a Hybrid of the tenori= on =3B / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of lit rubber button= s=2C you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot show you the pl= acement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. you can then jam up to= 4 bar phrases =3B on either of two loop slots =3B plus a separate = drum track ... each can be set for individual midi channels =2C I use mine = with an old MU-7 its ace.


From: eterogen= us@gmail.com
Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators
= Date: Sun=2C 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com

I don't have any experience with the  =3Bkaossilato= r=2C but I own a Kaoss Pad II since 2004=2C so my experience with this kind= of products is just related to the KPII.

<= div>
I have a= lways expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". With al= l the functions of an EDP=2C but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the thing = about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked=2C eith= er by hand=2C or by LFO sweep /modulation routings.

I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system=2C a K= org MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive alwa= ys pre-programmed them=2C either via the onboard modulation sequencer of th= e Korg=2C or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the bes= t being called=2C weirdly "Mobius")

The Korg is VERY tweakable=2C so a relatively standard patch can easily= be quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation.
But theres my problem / wish.

TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE=3B WHERE ALL FA= CTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FREELY IMPROVISED=2C LIVE=2C AND LOOPED.=

So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes.

So=2C to the qu= estions:

The Kaosilator PRO.
How is it to play..?
Is it a pr= oper "Instrument"
Can I play it=2C and get what I imagine.. or is it ba= sicaly random (within a key and scale)???
KPII has synth sounds too=2C but not very useful for me. Yes=2C you play = within a key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and sca= le...=2C better checking the manual)=2C but the fact is that IT is like pla= ying a theremin. And it is good in that department=2C if you are looking to= that kind of sounds=2C but have to say that it's not allow you to really p= lay melodies...
So it's not a "proper instrument"=2C IMO=2C neith= er really "random".

Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorte= d acid bass to pop in for 3 notes=2C then silent for 4 bars.. then loop... =
OR...
Can I quickly loop a little string section=2C
OR=2C can I= hear a Xylophone in my head=2C and within a few seconds=2C select a patch= =2C and add some twinkles?

And Tech questions..
How is it at following midi clock?
=
Better checking the manual here and see what it rea= lly allow to do.
My KP sends midi clock out=2C but it can't work = as master clock: it just sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs)=2C ALL using= the same MIDI channel.

When used as a controller for another syn= th=2C is all information sent on 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch on an ext= ernal synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to filter cutoff on the externa= l synth? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont know.. have to fi= nd the manual.)
Again: better checking th= e manual(s) !
KP sends information on Y and X axis=2C but do you = need to address those info trough different midi channels or the same  = =3B?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?
Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out=2C making it a mid= i sequncer/looper for an external synth..
And finally=2C
Whats the on-board = audio loopers like?
Don't really know about th= ose features=2C sorry.

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the = last Kaoss Pad version (4=2C maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" too= l ? I think it can work like a synth too.

-f
=


IF ALL GOOD...

For Sale:

R= ed Sound Federation synched Multi effects
Insanly good loop mangler=2C d= elay=2C filter=2C chopper and very psychedelic multi band panner=2C all syn= cable...

Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used= to automate 2 EDP=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...)

Mark





 =3B

= --
Mark Francombewww.markfrancombe.com
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= --_f5438e26-4e2a-421e-9b04-d947f74b776e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 11:17:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFE1A18345A; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4evj09yTTlBlhKNMuFYKyGIdhjcH3KH7+1yj1DJ41ak=; b=vtd20Gd/sBQzYh1foxtHVTAzwmz9LKrgoC2eIIE4NATWqwIhpHlb6Lv6jzYkOds9Ct 94EovZCaSZcKAaR4XH6+pbJHrrJv0mtRx571EdKYR3QOuIGLS4vSOF9GjBER+XA4y+Os RkFhpvmwugBPqNrj6eAmEV2PY5/+rb1JzxYK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h0ZbGAeEUe+0+NXIFQlsAWgXPBl+DOk0alaHuONg6YJBbXmZBgiR5qT1IvMkVtnF2f I2hArLRHMQahQwUNCncafjJPXze0/8ORfI7c8UlMwFpRvtbOIs+AFGD1REtAEVz6mD5n klBXIaeCBQ5CeNsVGvKO4bNCiQ60bnfLUv8Jw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:17:29 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can run > VST plugins on it using a mac? > I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts ;-) Certainly! (assuming we're talking Mac VST ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 11:24:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5723918345F; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: You have received a YouTube video! Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:25:02 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:24:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm sorry to say that since Google is assimilating YouTube user accounts you may not sign into your own account without becoming a Google user, as of today. Consequently I have deleted all but a few videos - the ones not containing my own work (except for the anti-Scientology "SP Brain Test #37") - from my YouTube page. Also I will no longer be sending links to YouTube to anyone, as one must sign in with said Google account in order to do so. As Google-YouTube do not accept complaints of any kind except through paper snail mail (which most likely goes in the bin when they get it), the only way to communicate your distaste for their monolithic move is to do what I've done, and post comments about it elsewhere. Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 11:48:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 779AD18345A; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JIXbacC7O2A7zH2DDDhmnyIz+Apr26Fsu2FqsQ57q74=; b=NHsVjegUEcJqnKOWj/FBVHACTZ4bHgw+OQruXlQmAN1ygcxNTIMibVMR7kZBWcweQ3 n/dvmjDritkLpR+SsVVkw4+mzyqqwRo7vHyWRxpTrmY3f4ro9aKX9OeDJ2dfZKHYxqte V+TJxnq4+DWwxuvs1bzvF5QMhSgngeIIZR0q8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=stYLR8hEO/XRXsZkxyPNIhGwFyI8BGwz6DrA5R/EY1VKQJ2dEHQL7vzgH6R6u41B6x Wylht32r+UjVZ6DhZAXka6E2O0/Y9NM6hMyo65VSOKOvwTPhwSIpRM6sjCu9v9dn1Jc7 36RHju5iuUB5eD98+CrqfPz63t1WkcudKlHyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:48:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recording an album From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:48:10 +0000 (UTC) >> i think it was matt davignon (please confirm if i'm >> wrong here MATT, my old brain works not great lately!) who emailed me to >> tell me he records all his stuff w/ the zoom h2 (endless hrs of stuff) then >> transfers to computer and edits down to the good stuff to >> release things. man i thought that was a great process, let the creativity >> roll, pull good stuff later.... On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Yup, that's exactly what I've been doing. Me too! But I was using a H4. Both Lo Fi Lazer sessions were recorded that way: http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/lo.fi.lazer When I use a computer based performance rig I use to set up a function to instantly record the main output, same concept as the H2/H4. The problem with recording a lot of sound sources already merged into a stream is that if certain frequencies were out of balance as you performed it may be difficult to fix that in the recording. But I must say that a lot of in depth editing of an orchestral stereo file actually is possible if you are using a software that lets your automate EQ. Takes a lot of time though. But actualy I use both methods for producing recorded music, I mean I also do close mik multi track recording. The backdraw is that you have to make a lot of mistakes first to acquire enough experience of where the process may lead you - and then you have to still keep your creative mind focused on your vision rather on what you are hearing as you are recording. This method definitely is boring and unsexy but it pays back in fidelity. Maybe better suited for composed music than for improvised. The two keys to succeed are to (1) do your homework and (2) keep the vision alive. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 12:09:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC76B183460; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 70324.24457.bm@omp1004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zNrw0MC8IH4Wf9+pjQRU3P/vWHrliu6an6zD/4fWk8csfRTfVZdr6tOb/84Gaa1Rgpx1WZ+jG25byPlTXPFvP0PupC96tazvgEBVUXMVQvPE+eIzUz46KCOz/AOPj9A/LqDQYTJCMkQiCD2Bek5EaxKAxihQBB+ea1m3OOOP9mQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1298981395; bh=IqSnOz/HeJVHNSRnErVip3UFtEJlbfLtMLm+w/mZ4lM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=vs5n3F6A8Atx3PjnGqdZL3rlQHib85Zry2CA88lZkxo5au7gcVCiVq5wDCnO4yI+KZqRPjPq+kojPn/b+LPPwh956zpU105+elWVO6raVopHyZz1xoXTXv/GM/EkndQySpHE/4dQ9tXBq0i4c9Z5y1pTOfW6UK3Gi+14LRx2HQ4= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: keDl3j8VM1mWmQD4T9Wlxll7zAwrb2aIHXi4qBe6c7TLbjZ NEjUa1IzBPEh7F32BQunOhlMOv2ttIMh8UgKVDMdj0TlU87xsgvz9H3B_PBx pwWuk.DvvYswy4ct6MZchLHENOqBpUPczJpel0Uey53J_XLP8l6FHtcgzVsA uvw2yrDCpTTrLGA4LiaQfLRK4RO3NTXZuLar.O7q1ToWG7UrwPfdWTilkS7G 26.jJNQBHxMlTQ8cmORzyCYu7iu1ceeeRQyrzspnGRuWT92oxNWlCSZncjYk vQJj3hvpATiq_fRld X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> From: "BEN" To: References: ,<38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:09:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0144_01CBD811.F3F4A010" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:09:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0144_01CBD811.F3F4A010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark et all I saw last week this small soft : = http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philweb/philizound/freebies/software/sequetron= /sequetron.html I didn't had theb time to try it yet but perhaps worth a look? Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 From: phillip wilson=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:29 Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of sorts MPC 500 Korg Electribe ESX Flame Six In A Row. The MPC I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts, = recieving midi notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record = the notes input from the controller and then play them back in real = time wile more notes are added to this or another track. plus you have = all that MPC sampling functionality.... not tried it though, I just use = it for speech samples. ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love " crown from the EDP = for me, I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it has changed = me in the same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an = external controller as described above to control the external sound = source OR to give note data to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard" = sample tracks available onboard or you can use its onboard keys to input = notes or even more fun the scailic arpegiator (think mini KoPro) the = only issue in this and other midi loopers is that if you accidentally = overwrite the note on message at the loop boundry you just get akward = silence for that step, so always remove your finger from the controller = JUST before the loop point.I also use this to midi loop drum parts. (I believe the EMX can be used like this but with 5 keyboard type = parts.)=20 Six In A Row. This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety = kind of a Hybrid of the tenori on / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a = grid of lit rubber buttons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid = lights move ot show you the placement of root notes and "removes" the = wrong notes. you can then jam up to 4 bar phrases on either of two loop = slots plus a separate drum track ... each can be set for individual = midi channels , I use mine with an old MU-7 its ace. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: eterogenus@gmail.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I don't have any experience with the kaossilator, but I own a Kaoss = Pad II since 2004, so my experience with this kind of products is just = related to the KPII. I have always expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi = Looper". With all the functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. = Reasons? Cos the thing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it = can still be tweaked, either by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation = routings. I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a = Korg MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive = always pre-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer = of the Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular = (the best being called, weirdly "Mobius") The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can = easily be quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current = improvisation.=20 But theres my problem / wish. TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN = BE FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED.=20 So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes. So, to the questions: The Kaosilator PRO.=20 How is it to play..?=20 Is it a proper "Instrument"=20 Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random = (within a key and scale)???=20 KPII has synth sounds too, but not very useful for me. Yes, you play = within a key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and = scale..., better checking the manual), but the fact is that IT is like = playing a theremin. And it is good in that department, if you are = looking to that kind of sounds, but have to say that it's not allow you = to really play melodies... So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random". Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly = distorted acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then = loop...=20 OR...=20 Can I quickly loop a little string section,=20 OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, = select a patch, and add some twinkles? And Tech questions..=20 How is it at following midi clock?=20 Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as master clock: it just = sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI channel. When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent = on 2 axis?=20 Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and = the Y to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth = allows this.. which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) Again: better checking the manual(s) ! KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those = info trough different midi channels or the same ? Do you want to get control over different machines ? Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it = a midi sequncer/looper for an external synth..=20 And finally,=20 Whats the on-board audio loopers like? Don't really know about those features, sorry. Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad = version (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it = can work like a synth too. -f www.eterogeneo.com IF ALL GOOD... For Sale:=20 Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very = psychedelic multi band panner, all syncable... Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer) Previously used to automate 2 EDP=B4s (or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...) Mark =20 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe ------=_NextPart_000_0144_01CBD811.F3F4A010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mark et all
 
I saw last week this small soft : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philweb/philizound/fr= eebies/software/sequetron/sequetron.html
I didn't had theb time to try it yet but perhaps = worth a=20 look?
 
Ben
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 phillip=20 wilson
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 = 11:29
Subject: RE: midi looping, = synths, and=20 kaossilators

I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of=20 sorts

MPC 500
Korg Electribe ESX
Flame Six In A = Row.

The=20 MPC I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts, recieving = midi=20 notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes input = from=20 the controller  and then play them back in real time wile more = notes are=20 added to this or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling=20 functionality.... not tried it though, I just use it for speech=20 samples.

ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love " = crown from=20 the EDP for me, I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it = has=20 changed me in the same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use = an=20 external controller as described above to control the external sound = source=20 OR  to give note data to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard" = sample=20 tracks available onboard or you can use its onboard keys to input = notes or=20 even more fun the scailic arpegiator  (think mini KoPro)  = the only=20 issue in this and other midi loopers is that if you accidentally=20 overwrite  the note on message at the loop boundry you just get = akward=20 silence for that step, so always remove your finger from the = controller JUST=20 before the loop point.I also use this to midi loop drum parts.
(I = believe=20 the EMX can be used like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.) =

Six In=20 A Row. This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind of a = Hybrid=20 of the tenori on  / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of = lit=20 rubber buttons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot = show=20 you the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. you can = then=20 jam up to 4 bar phrases  on either of two loop slots  plus a = separate drum track ... each can be set for individual midi channels , = I use=20 mine with an old MU-7 its ace.


From: eterogenus@gmail.com
Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and=20 kaossilators
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I don't have any experience with the  kaossilator, but I own = a Kaoss=20 Pad II since 2004, so my experience with this kind of products is just = related=20 to the KPII.


I have = always=20 expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". With = all the=20 functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the thing = about a=20 synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked, either = by hand,=20 or by LFO sweep=20 /modulation=20 routings.

I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer = modular=20 system, a Korg MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for = "synth=20 lines" Ive always pre-programmed them, either via the onboard = modulation=20 sequencer of the Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for = the=20 modular (the best being called, weirdly "Mobius")

The Korg is = VERY=20 tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be quickly = manipulated=20 to "fit in" with the current improvisation.

But theres my = problem /=20 wish.

TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND = TIMBRE=20 CAN BE FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED.

So to be able to = improvise the synth loop notes.

So, to the = questions:

The=20 Kaosilator PRO.
How is it to play..?
Is it a proper = "Instrument"=20
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random = (within=20 a key and scale)???
KPII has synth sounds too, but not very useful for me. Yes, you = play=20 within a key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key = and=20 scale..., better checking the manual), but the fact is that IT is like = playing=20 a theremin. And it is good in that department, if you are looking to = that kind=20 of sounds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really play=20 melodies...
So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really=20 "random".

Supposing = I have some=20 guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorted acid bass to = pop in=20 for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop...
OR...
Can = I=20 quickly loop a little string section,
OR, can I hear a Xylophone = in my=20 head, and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add some=20 twinkles?

And Tech questions..
How is it at following = midi clock?=20
Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to = do.
My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as master clock: it = just=20 sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI=20 channel.

When used = as a=20 controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis? =
Can I=20 map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y = to=20 filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows = this..=20 which I dont know.. have to find the = manual.)
Again: better checking the manual(s) !
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address = those=20 info trough different midi channels or the same  ?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Is the = midi loop on=20 the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi = sequncer/looper for=20 an external synth..
And finally,
Whats the = on-board=20 audio loopers like?
Don't really know = about those=20 features, sorry.

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad = version=20 (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can = work like=20 a synth too.

-f


IF ALL=20 GOOD...

For Sale:

Red Sound Federation synched Multi=20 effects
Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and = very=20 psychedelic multi band panner, all syncable...

Boss Dr Groove = 202=20 (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used to automate 2=20 EDP=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of=20 course...)


Mark





 
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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no
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------=_NextPart_000_0144_01CBD811.F3F4A010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 13:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADC7A18345F; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VqrTmfeVvhPusb3k5Uf7pt+40YtCNJofxFepiMV/vtk=; b=GqEUkKsAZZSTpCjs3Y2hA3c5SjK4rPRFu66gGmyjPuzFyh3ehmHYUtdCqp5i4P67Uo rLoGqDwFGClfAJRpwpVXUtE9C2msyOXAlpw5gFov4QJ1lLe/KfCEFnUn/Q9X7W5+XSsS zXr00h6CUkzU+H4dqCEqq9IGUDwKfWSHpt5cQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uXsFz5kGu+J7s/d0wJLQunAsi3rOGIq2apiLP5hVoF1dlg35E1pdVmDCnNccfYM6NK gw2clId/wQFC2NrylyLmkBFPMozhh+JlLC+FSrpiaRm2eLNl3TbKcXzBW6UrE5wpwXrR QZ+5VGTYZ9aYGia/SE5BCG5nVAIatVlnRp5M0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd348ba09a37a049d6beab2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:38:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd348ba09a37a049d6beab2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have made a nifty little midi looping module with max msp, as part of a bigger project. It can loop/overdub/grab everything... notes, CC's, pitchbend, aftertouch... and from many different sources, at the same time as it keeps track which destinations they should be returned to. So that I can loop a knob movement directly on one synth, and another movement on another, while having the notes going to which ever synths I specify on the fly. Having four of these running together is a lot of fun! Eventually I would like to turn it into something other people could use, but for now it's a max only thing specifically routed to my hardware :/ On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM, BEN wrote: > Hi Mark et all > > I saw last week this small soft : > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philweb/philizound/freebies/software/sequetron= /sequetron.html > I didn't had theb time to try it yet but perhaps worth a look? > > Ben > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* phillip wilson > *To:* loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:29 > *Subject:* RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > > I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of sorts > > MPC 500 > Korg Electribe ESX > Flame Six In A Row. > > The MPC I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts, recievin= g > midi notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes inp= ut > from the controller and then play them back in real time wile more notes > are added to this or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling > functionality.... not tried it though, I just use it for speech samples. > > ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love " crown from the EDP for > me, I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it has changed me in > the same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an external > controller as described above to control the external sound source OR to > give note data to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard" sample tracks > available onboard or you can use its onboard keys to input notes or even > more fun the scailic arpegiator (think mini KoPro) the only issue in th= is > and other midi loopers is that if you accidentally overwrite the note on > message at the loop boundry you just get akward silence for that step, so > always remove your finger from the controller JUST before the loop point.= I > also use this to midi loop drum parts. > (I believe the EMX can be used like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.) > > Six In A Row. This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind o= f > a Hybrid of the tenori on / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of = lit > rubber buttons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot sh= ow > you the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. you can th= en > jam up to 4 bar phrases on either of two loop slots plus a separate dru= m > track ... each can be set for individual midi channels , I use mine with = an > old MU-7 its ace. > > > ------------------------------ > From: eterogenus@gmail.com > Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I don't have any experience with the kaossilator, but I own a Kaoss Pad = II > since 2004, so my experience with this kind of products is just related t= o > the KPII. > > > I have always expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper= ". > With all the functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the > thing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked= , > either by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation routings. > > I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a Korg > MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always > pre-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the > Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the best > being called, weirdly "Mobius") > > The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be > quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation. > > But theres my problem / wish. > > TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE > FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED. > > So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes. > > So, to the questions: > > The Kaosilator PRO. > How is it to play..? > Is it a proper "Instrument" > Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a > key and scale)??? > > KPII has synth sounds too, but not very useful for me. Yes, you play with= in > a key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and scale...= , > better checking the manual), but the fact is that IT is like playing a > theremin. And it is good in that department, if you are looking to that k= ind > of sounds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really play > melodies... > So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random". > > Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly > distorted acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then > loop... > OR... > Can I quickly loop a little string section, > OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, select a > patch, and add some twinkles? > > And Tech questions.. > How is it at following midi clock? > > Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. > My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as master clock: it just > sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI channel. > > When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on = 2 > axis? > Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y > to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this= .. > which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) > > Again: better checking the manual(s) ! > KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those in= fo > trough different midi channels or the same ? > Do you want to get control over different machines ? > > Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a > midi sequncer/looper for an external synth.. > And finally, > Whats the on-board audio loopers like? > > Don't really know about those features, sorry. > > > Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (= 4, > maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work lik= e a > synth too. > > -f > www.eterogeneo.com > > > IF ALL GOOD... > > For Sale: > > Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects > Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very psychedelic > multi band panner, all syncable... > > Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer) > Previously used to automate 2 EDP=B4s > > (or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...) > > > Mark > > > > > > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --000e0cd348ba09a37a049d6beab2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have made a nifty little midi looping module with max msp, as part of a b= igger project. It can loop/overdub/grab everything... notes, CC's, pitc= hbend, aftertouch... and from many different sources, at the same time as i= t keeps track which destinations they should be returned to. So that I can = loop a knob movement directly on one synth, and another movement on another= , while having the notes going to which ever synths I specify on the fly. Having four of these running together is a lot of fun!
Eventually I= would like to turn it into something other people could use, but for now i= t's a max only thing specifically routed to my hardware :/



On Tue, Mar 1,= 2011 at 1:09 PM, BEN <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hi Mark et all
=A0
I didn't had theb time to try it yet but perh= aps worth a=20 look?
=A0
Ben
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:29=
Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, = and=20 kaossilators

I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of=20 sorts

MPC 500
Korg Electribe ESX
Flame Six In A Row.

= The=20 MPC I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts, recieving mi= di=20 notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes input fr= om=20 the controller=A0 and then play them back in real time wile more notes ar= e=20 added to this or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling=20 functionality.... not tried it though, I just use it for speech=20 samples.

ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love &quo= t; crown from=20 the EDP for me, I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it has= =20 changed me in the same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an= =20 external controller as described above to control the external sound sour= ce=20 OR=A0 to give note data to either of the 2 availiable "keyboard"= ; sample=20 tracks available onboard or you can use its onboard keys to input notes o= r=20 even more fun the scailic arpegiator=A0 (think mini KoPro)=A0 the only=20 issue in this and other midi loopers is that if you accidentally=20 overwrite=A0 the note on message at the loop boundry you just get akward= =20 silence for that step, so always remove your finger from the controller J= UST=20 before the loop point.I also use this to midi loop drum parts.
(I beli= eve=20 the EMX can be used like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.)

Si= x In=20 A Row. This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind of a Hyb= rid=20 of the tenori on=A0 / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of lit=20 rubber buttons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot sh= ow=20 you the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. = you can then=20 jam up to 4 bar phrases=A0 on either of two loop slots=A0 plus a=20 separate drum track ... each can be set for individual midi channels , I = use=20 mine with an old MU-7 its ace.


From: eterogenu= s@gmail.com
Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and=20 kaossilators
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100
To:=20 = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I don't have any experience with the =A0kaossilator, but I own a= Kaoss=20 Pad II since 2004, so my experience with this kind of products is just re= lated=20 to the KPII.


I have = always=20 expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper".= With all the=20 functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the thing abou= t a=20 synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked, either by = hand,=20 or by LFO sweep=20 /modulationSupposing I= have some=20 guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorted acid bass to pop= in=20 for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop...
OR...
Can I= =20 quickly loop a little string section,
OR, can I hear a Xylophone in= my=20 head, and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add some=20 twinkles?

And Tech questions..
How is it at following midi c= lock?=20
Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.<= /div>
My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as master clock: i= t just=20 sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI=20 channel.

When used a= s a=20 controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis?
Ca= n I=20 map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to= =20 filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.= .=20 which I dont know.. have to find the manual.)
Again: better checking the manual(s) !
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address tho= se=20 info trough different midi channels or the same =A0?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Is the midi= loop on=20 the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi sequncer/looper = for=20 an external synth..
And finally,
Whats the on-board=20 audio loopers like?
Don't really know = about those=20 features, sorry.

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad vers= ion=20 (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think i= t can work like=20 a synth too.

-f


IF ALL=20 GOOD...

For Sale:

Red Sound Federation synched Multi=20 effects
Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very= =20 psychedelic multi band panner, all syncable...

Boss Dr Groove 20= 2=20 (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used to automate 2=20 EDP=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of=20 course...)


Mark





=A0
=
--
Mark=20 Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www= .ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825= 094
http://www.looop= .no
twitter=20 @markfrancombe

--000e0cd348ba09a37a049d6beab2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 14:53:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E553183460; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 446504200/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkICAFeXbE0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmCrKdIJ+gmMEjB+DNA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,247,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="446504200" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:52:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: any ardunio users? Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D6D082E.28663.11D3CC0@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110301-0, 01/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Anybody out there use the Ardunio board? I want to convert midi program changes from a midi pedal into CC messages to control an EDP. I know what output to send and will be using a "case" statement so, in pseudocode if patch number = 1, send CC21 if patch number = 2, send CC33 etc. I have the sending part working, but I can't figure out how to identify the midi data coming from the pedal in order to compare it. I've intalled the midi.h library, but the documentation is waaay too deep for me. All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 15:25:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 600D618345F; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298993152; bh=GsGcBzsj9yQWh8p9AAanS2bpZOon35ywU4kM0vOZgNw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yedt3GGcEf39DvFcvYg1HkY3o128L/OadObzi5cJHqNez7vMupI/KMiKA/XxuI66oxYNIehXKNkQQuydiWRpmHy2Ppftf+hEl9DVOjtsNEeY3I705R/TqR3iv1prSJ74CiCZP9ydAOUOesCxqSTJ/5DpsKOMHF+dedz3KUqc36k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MnZTtWnU7NeS9rMGkXtawE69FbCs4H4UH4wBBVN9p7/tVYx80oxB9U0aP5ejhHEWLexw2Q0yWgZhl4Eoi9fLFlxm3zovHABYmnrTPn2ybaJj4AhfvifE46hC0XZuLEFYn2dqP4DFVAhU5F0zQ4X8WQjq2qI28mactR91GkQ31Wo=; Message-ID: <160956.16298.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dHja_EoVM1nXtd_R0SR63qE5TCAV6HapviERz7ylsI.h5NC q8svR3Of1wMwesWmBeqoaKjTYLB0UhunLH7auLL5QQ5B7CCQQvoD.lsLop18 XH6yEOxzLOo0vtA7VWKw5m2p0vncifR9kmxpTfqYWAENf1NA4bCH7pB7MuOK Dxx8k9TfLJd61s7ZiFOr_wk4J0zenzt2YhkQWiLTTPeS9p_TtGUmI7v_SYOn f5NJlZa8L0U25nV3eDY7VpXvkaicqQ_cFwyYUDATJT2ldgjQV.U6twplfei. WeCLmEulvAy050Kvzqgiuc8Da.iGZUMqVVaZfBa1D3NqgVvlisBM6ezIsxg- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:25:51 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1782280408-1298993151=:16298" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-1782280408-1298993151=:16298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable make it Max for Live maybe.=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________= ________=0AFrom: Lasse juul Kolding =0ATo: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Tue, March 1, 2011 2:38:40 PM=0ASubject: Re= : midi looping, synths, and kaossilators=0A=0AI have made a nifty little mi= di looping module with max msp, as part of a bigger =0Aproject. It can loop= /overdub/grab everything... notes, CC's, pitchbend, =0Aaftertouch... and fr= om many different sources, at the same time as it keeps =0Atrack which dest= inations they should be returned to. So that I can loop a knob =0Amovement = directly on one synth, and another movement on another, while having =0Athe= notes going to which ever synths I specify on the fly.=0AHaving four of th= ese running together is a lot of fun!=0A=0AEventually I would like to turn = it into something other people could use, but =0Afor now it's a max only th= ing specifically routed to my hardware :/=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Mar 1, 2011= at 1:09 PM, BEN wrote:=0A=0AHi Mark et all=0A> =0A= >I saw last week this small soft : =0A>http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philweb/p= hilizound/freebies/software/sequetron/sequetron.html=0A>=0A>I didn't had th= eb time to try it yet but perhaps worth a look?=0A> Ben=0A> =0A>----- Orig= inal Message ----- =0A>>From: phillip wilson =0A>>To: loopers-delight@lo= opers-delight.com =0A>>Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:29=0A>>Subject: RE:= midi looping, synths, and kaossilators=0A>>=0A>>I have 3 things I would= qualify as Midi Loopers of sorts=0A>>=0A>>MPC 500=0A>>Korg Electribe ES= X=0A>>Flame Six In A Row.=0A>>=0A>>The MPC I have read in the manual can= be set in a loop of sorts, recieving =0A>>midi notes from a controller = to any of its 48 tracks record the notes input =0A>>from the controller = and then play them back in real time wile more notes are =0A>>added to = this or another track. plus you have all that MPC sampling =0A>>function= ality.... not tried it though, I just use it for speech samples.=0A>>=0A= >>ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love " crown from the EDP f= or me, =0A>>I have never used such a fun unit in my work and it has chan= ged me in the =0A>>same way that the EDP did 10 years ago. You can use an = external controller as =0A>>described above to control the external sound= source OR to give note data to =0A>>either of the 2 availiable "keyboa= rd" sample tracks available onboard or you =0A>>can use its onboard keys= to input notes or even more fun the scailic =0A>>arpegiator (think min= i KoPro) the only issue in this and other midi loopers =0A>>is that if = you accidentally overwrite the note on message at the loop =0A>>boundry= you just get akward silence for that step, so always remove your =0A>>f= inger from the controller JUST before the loop point.I also use this to = midi =0A>>loop drum parts.=0A>>(I believe the EMX can be used like this = but with 5 keyboard type parts.) =0A>>=0A>>Six In A Row. This is a bouti= que midi looper of the scaled variety kind of a =0A>>Hybrid of the tenor= i on / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of lit =0A>>rubber butt= ons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot show =0A>>yo= u the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. you can then = =0A>>jam up to 4 bar phrases on either of two loop slots plus a sepa= rate drum =0A>>track ... each can be set for individual midi channels , I u= se mine with an =0A>>old MU-7 its ace.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>___________________= _____________=0A From: eterogenus@gmail.com=0A>>Subject: Re: midi looping, = synths, and kaossilators=0A>>Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100=0A>>T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I don't have any exper= ience with the kaossilator, but I own a Kaoss Pad II =0A>>since 2004, s= o my experience with this kind of products is just related to =0A>>the K= PII.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>>I have always expounded on this list that I a= m dreaming of a "Midi Looper". =0A>>>With all the functions of an EDP,= but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the =0A>>>thing about a synth loo= p (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked, =0A>>>either by hand, = or by LFO sweep/modulationroutings.=0A>>>=0A>>>I do routinely "audio lo= op" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a Korg =0A>>>MS2000 and the = trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always =0A>>>pre-p= rogrammed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the =0A= >>>Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the= best =0A>>>being called, weirdly "Mobius")=0A>>>=0A>>>The Korg is VERY = tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be =0A>>>quickly man= ipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation. =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>= >But theres my problem / wish.=0A>>>=0A>>>TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE= ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE =0A>>>FREELY IMPROVISED, LIV= E, AND LOOPED. =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>So to be able to improvise the synth = loop notes.=0A>>>=0A>>>So, to the questions:=0A>>>=0A>>>The Kaosilator= PRO. =0A>>>How is it to play..? =0A>>>Is it a proper "Instrument" =0A>>>Ca= n I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a =0A>>>key and scale)??? =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>KPII has synth sounds too, but n= ot very useful for me. Yes, you play within a =0A>key (don't know if the= Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and scale..., =0A>better checking t= he manual), but the fact is that IT is like playing a =0A>theremin. And = it is good in that department, if you are looking to that kind =0A>of so= unds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really play melodies...= =0A>So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random".=0A>= =0A>Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly= =0A>distorted acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars= .. then =0A>loop... =0A>=0A>>OR... =0A>>Can I quickly loop a little st= ring section, =0A>>OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my head, and within a= few seconds, select a =0A>>patch, and add some twinkles?=0A>>=0A>>And= Tech questions.. =0A>>How is it at following midi clock? =0A>>=0ABetter ch= ecking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.=0AMy KP sends mi= di clock out, but it can't work as master clock: it just sends =0Aout mi= di messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI channel.=0A=0AWhen us= ed as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 =0A= axis? =0A=0A>Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my= Korg) and the Y =0A>to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my ex= ternal synth allows this.. =0A>which I dont know.. have to find the ma= nual.)=0A>=0AAgain: better checking the manual(s) !=0AKP sends information = on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those info =0Atrough differe= nt midi channels or the same ?=0ADo you want to get control over different= machines ?=0A=0AIs the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi = out, making it a midi =0Asequncer/looper for an external synth.. =0A= =0A>And finally, =0A>Whats the on-board audio loopers like?=0A>Don't r= eally know about those features, sorry.=0A=0A=0A>=0AJust a question: why= the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, =0Amaybe) which = seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work like a =0Asynth= too.=0A=0A-f=0Awww.eterogeneo.com=0A=0A=0AIF ALL GOOD...=0A>=0A>For S= ale: =0A>=0A>Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects=0A>Insanly goo= d loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very psychedelic =0A>multi = band panner, all syncable...=0A>=0A>Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in = 2 track sequencer)=0A>Previously used to automate 2 EDP=B4s=0A>=0A>(or= swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...)=0A>=0A>=0A>Mark=0A>=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>-- =0A>Mark Francombe=0A>www.markfrancombe.com=0A= >www.ordoabkhao.com=0A>http://vimeo.com/user825094=0A>http://www.looop.no= =0A>twitter @markfrancombe=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1782280408-1298993151=:16298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
make it Max for Live maybe.

Antony
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From: Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.co= m>
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 2:38:40 PM
On Tue, = Mar 1, 2011 at 1:09 PM, BEN <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
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Hi Mark et all
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I saw last week this small soft : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philweb/p= hilizound/freebies/software/sequetron/sequetron.html=0A=0A
I didn't had theb time to try it yet but p= erhaps worth a =0Alook?
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Ben
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From: =0A <= a rel=3D"nofollow" title=3D"phillwilson@hotmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:phil= lwilson@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:phillwilson@hotmail.c= om">phillip =0A wilson
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Sent: T= uesday, March 01, 2011 11:29
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S= ubject: RE: midi looping, synths, and =0A kaossilators
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I have 3 things I would qualify as Midi Loopers of =0A sorts
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MPC 500
Korg Electribe ESX
Flame Six In A Row.

The =0A MP= C I have read in the manual can be set in a loop of sorts, recieving midi = =0A notes from a controller to any of its 48 tracks record the notes input= from =0A the controller  and then play them back in real time wile m= ore notes are =0A added to this or another track. plus you have all that M= PC sampling =0A functionality.... not tried it though, I just use it for s= peech =0A samples.

ESX this has , i think , stolen the "first love = " crown from =0A the EDP for me, I have never used such a fun unit in my w= ork and it has =0A changed me in the same way that the EDP did 10 years ag= o. You can use an =0A external controller as described above to control th= e external sound source =0A OR  to give note data to either of the 2 = availiable "keyboard" sample =0A tracks available onboard or you can use i= ts onboard keys to input notes or =0A even more fun the scailic arpegiator=   (think mini KoPro)  the only =0A issue in this and other midi = loopers is that if you accidentally =0A overwrite  the note on messag= e at the loop boundry you just get akward =0A silence for that step, so al= ways remove your finger from the controller JUST =0A before the loop point= .I also use this to midi loop drum parts.
(I believe =0A the EMX can be= used like this but with 5 keyboard type parts.)

Six In =0A A Row.= This is a boutique midi looper of the scaled variety kind of a Hybrid =0A = of the tenori on  / monome and KoPro concepts. it has a grid of lit = =0A rubber buttons, you pick a scale and a key and the grid lights move ot= show =0A you the placement of root notes and "removes" the wrong notes. y= ou can then =0A jam up to 4 bar phrases  on either of two loop slots&= nbsp; plus a =0A separate drum track ... each can be set for individual mi= di channels , I use =0A mine with an old MU-7 its ace.


=0A =0A From: eterogenus@gmail.com
Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and =0A kaossilators
Date: Sun,= 27 Feb 2011 20:45:36 +0100
To: =0A Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>
=0A
I don't have any experience with the  kaossilator, bu= t I own a Kaoss =0A Pad II since 2004, so my experience with this kind of = products is just related =0A to the KPII.
=0A

=0A =0A
=0A /modulation =0A routings.=

I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular =0A sy= stem, a Korg MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth =0A = lines" Ive always pre-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation = =0A sequencer of the Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for = the =0A modular (the best being called, weirdly "Mobius")

The Kor= g is VERY =0A tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be qu= ickly manipulated =0A to "fit in" with the current improvisation.
But theres my problem / =0A wish.

TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE = ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE =0A CAN BE FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AN= D LOOPED.

So to be able to =0A improvise the synth loop notes.
So, to the questions:

The =0A Kaosilator PRO.
How is it= to play..?
Is it a proper "Instrument" =0A
Can I play it, and g= et what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within =0A a key and scale= )???
=0A
KPII has synth sounds too, but= not very useful for me. Yes, you play =0A within a key (don't know if the= Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and =0A scale..., better checking the= manual), but the fact is that IT is like playing =0A a theremin. And it i= s good in that department, if you are looking to that kind =0A of sounds, = but have to say that it's not allow you to really play =0A melodies...=0A
So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really =0A"rand= om".

=0A
=0A
Supposing I have some =0A guitar loops going .. a= nd I imagine a growly distorted acid bass to pop in =0A for 3 notes, the= n silent for 4 bars.. then loop...
OR...
Can I =0A quickly loop = a little string section,
OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my =0A head, = and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add some =0A twinkles?
=
And Tech questions..
How is it at following midi clock? =0A
=
=0A
Better checking the manual here and see= what it really allow to do.
=0A
My KP sends midi clock out, but= it can't work as master clock: it just =0A sends out midi messages (PCs a= nd CCs), ALL using the same MIDI =0A channel.

=0A
= =0A
When use= d as a =0A controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 ax= is?
Can I =0A map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Ko= rg) and the Y to =0A filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my externa= l synth allows this.. =0A which I dont know.. have to find the manual.)<= br>
=0A
Again: better checking the manual(s)= !
=0A
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to = address those =0A info trough different midi channels or the same  ?<= /div>=0A
Do you want to get control over different machines ?
=0A
=0A
Is the midi loop on =0A the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out,= making it a midi sequncer/looper for =0A an external synth..
And finally,
Wh= ats the on-board =0A audio loopers like?
Do= n't really know about those =0A features, sorry.
=0A
=0A =

=0A
Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss P= ad version =0A (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I thi= nk it can work like =0A a synth too.
=0A

=0A
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=0A =0A


=0A =0A
= IF ALL =0A GOOD...

For Sale:

Red Sound Federation synched= Multi =0A effects
Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper = and very =0A psychedelic multi band panner, all syncable...

Boss = Dr Groove 202 =0A (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used t= o automate 2 =0A EDP=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of =0A = course...)


Mark





 
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=0A=0A --0-1782280408-1298993151=:16298-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 17:34:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674A5183460; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NNO44psKjpVJemMsLd0kv2qz9FTPtqOvy39vHfJw0xU=; b=Vc52nnxlARQGFonWGhkE7+24s52IcmV4gUlEV/gZ/9jPSNnWiTGJtePTWJjAR7V/Ar 0YGw4Q4xssi+7RmU2sILrak3cMfk7Lk7IX/Q1M3G+660H6M45rA58ExUvLMFdN7utepT UCFEkvjZCoHnEyIjPGGi9AAtfatWYGgP28OjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BrryaSNyN6hjwluWULjN3JpvxKb/cs1CoaMFQNa8fNqIaHhxQlDPY76WhG30Lonybg kFKoiCbafoymn7akOB+dIQ3ZAy2lffusHkdQHmIzl445NKK/izLZuE4fLrkYop2GXXNr dVziABG9jlKCh+xq9o0mW7ePeAuwApYY5U+6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:34:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Gareth, Yes, you can run Mac-specific VSTs inside bidule (tho' you might want to consider using AU versions, if available). Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi guys, > > Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you can r= un > VST plugins on it using a mac? > I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts ;-) > > peace > > g > > Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 17:45:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0774A18345A; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cP6Lc50zPvGRVSg7hW5eskBtI/g616ZKrKHOWtER3po=; b=INGf99gzTdUAUB5QFMpLY2TKpz2gYRBIsD/NbdxRMHgHgyKrkVszBF8LkfNwz7A8v4 AOUXvMgbmLk16KrTIwXdR0oZAMzBJqhqWD2yQW3zkbxXfHh+gKbUEoXjYTK8U5SSfT1m 8gB40fs6Q74trzU2IjBArdOjvYUa78ravJGUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ralKwZysPcT0FzM8ZIIvGXUthRV6pe65jJYKQn8z0ThHRm7QZXh1NLJgX5vaWAZMjn VmCn+D44APY0xTIhZtsKi9fVwg2WjIu44DNQmvbf9NEMh0yyFTbHPjd7zxmRj+V7dr+m sVOd5Kad3vwEvKTlXhp7JXnHXaYGQgoHSVnFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 18:45:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0rY5XB.A.9fH.1CTbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Yes, you can run Mac-specific VSTs inside bidule (tho' you might want > to consider using AU versions, if available). Why? AFAIK a VST version works just as well as an AU version in Bidule. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 17:57:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29624183461; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 586704521/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.253/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.253 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhACAP7BbE1V0rP9/2dsb2JhbAAMmCrLaoVhBI9T X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,248,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="586704521" Message-ID: <4D6D3394.2080909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:57:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mac bidule to vst References: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> <4D6CAC98.6020905@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D6CAC98.6020905@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) This *looks* like a way to run pc vst plugins on mac using freeware. This standalone runs the pc vsts http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/vfxhostsoftware.html then to route the audio from one app to another http://cycling74.com/products/soundflower/ Looks a bit awkward. Wonder why no-one wrote a wrapper, would be a good product. andy andy butler wrote: > Sure it can, > but they have to be vsts that are compiled with a Mac. > > You can also use it to wrap vst>>au and vice versa. > > andy > > Gareth Whittock wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Could anyone here who uses Bidule tell me whetherit's true that you >> can run VST plugins on it using a mac? >> I read it somewhere but wanted to run it past the experts ;-) >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 19:07:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F406183461; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:07:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=reverbnation.com; s=mail; t=1299006026; bh=ly2Nj7PDApYt/Y35ceVbF7dk2O0O2hoPEiUy6gn8UUA=; h=From:Sender:To:Message-Id:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type: List-Unsubscribe:Date; b=NIFTqHnmrvKY73vExoW1Eza4/QUq5nADbfzIsWk4NfHQ2cYhFuMAOSs0g7xXJHs5W QXKX5jI9wlAHY/ErMuAsF8pbwBmpVhEvdD2oAv24huKYsjjcuxXg3T0/SRTufsEbX7 uSjaZULoet2WhYGB87QAsf2tacEc8zUxpXZztBlA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=mail; d=reverbnation.com; c=nofws; q=dns; b=ZLdPdpM661YA/yMGm43sW4XOhiqL5n4R/gYswFXz8NDPNACaApQbbJsNLx2NQGFuF PG1ZS3MGzGEdxoTAL2PpPBZA6vn6ohjbdaZvoZyVzNkZRtsc8ruNwYhLMnCEebVlNZo jLWcepI6GhkPgDeT38xm28uPUgjmTajgjRFYOUQ= From: Daniel Harris Sender: FanReach To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Subject: Confirmation Message from Daniel Harris Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:07:06 +0000 (UTC) ReverbNation Email loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com,

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 19:14:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7364F183459; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 331807.42082.bm@omp1027.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=UIBJDOg6BZF3k5OEhq1Df4bHjy09Ue9qSAFpMZGcMS2SuSVH0IpZo1PNK1HqzhRh77OeRCWKClq60gZrVSFDa1qqsrTnzvyDhPvV9t4pShk0xFC1YxRHXxtNltPVec7lxC/TAP9XEC7SII58Anv1low1M3UAhjNgxGxZVjP7lyk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1299006852; bh=HOirqXI/Qmb5G5o1k+c75c/7HRdCdNg8Fv90LlJLXG4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=NEygosR9oNIHtDrl7vx59srBP5PDX5t+0bOkARCx2wbSNfIVCBAy+dvmT2k0H2wR/MIQt/T1ovTUmwC5YSQwllfHm5lvoBRrgUUlLCXnQl4/akY3pUsgY+wtCe5whCfy5aLQgXIsGDT1S+yuBHzd0KP9muhkNl9QJfDq4I1QrTE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: qDQq8j8VM1n_WTZb7PmuQh2cyqPC2sRLj1h5Xl_hQp4yFCu s8gBTAThq04f1fJX7_1Go7vMgiGLXq0wfQt2FiNdqS7NMsKa.0U1PZktnqD_ 4lKJXSWxEm.o4XBJRs0pGdYOLOhzj16WfzcsOwqMeIgPsd2cxOfUu1hMSTNt 5iYn3rJfqjtPv5A7o8hrORyJHp7F.Z6Dz7CVWny2tco5L91MpYxfCMv38fWn 7pJB3Md8ztfdBHWi7idEEmKjs866ktbUrGwrRL6e_JEcad2p7B5IBse46GtI HtV09UG4TJAGejmne2jv_RJ.mI0eHHj7vquw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-42-724580371 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Confirmation Message from Daniel Harris Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:14:03 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:14:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-42-724580371 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 1 Mar 2011, at 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote: > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, > > You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a =20= > contact. > > "I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach system for my =20 > mailing list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'm =20 > sending out this courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to =20 > do anything to remain on the list. Thanks for being a fan!" > =97 Daniel Harris > > Your options: > Confirm my email so that I will be eligible for any exclusives =20 > from Daniel Harris > Do nothing and remain on the Daniel Harris mailing list. > Unsubscribe from this list > Report Spam or Abuse > > > This email sent through FanReach from ReverbNation. Daniel = Harris =20 > have indicated that you have requested this information. > ReverbNation.com: 501 Washington St., Suite D, Durham NC 27701 > Update Contact Info Unsubscribe Report Abuse =20= > Privacy --Apple-Mail-42-724580371 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list = :)

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2011/3/1 Matt Stevens <mattsteven= sguitar@btinternet.com>
Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :)

=

On 1 Mar 2011, at 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote:
=
loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com,

You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a con= tact.

"I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach sys= tem for my mailing list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'= ;m sending out this courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to d= o anything to remain on the list. Thanks for being a fan!"
=97 Daniel Harris=A0

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--20cf30433fd2e60bf3049d70a38c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 19:17:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4D9183464; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WT56fQofstxXvvmt9nyXluBdWuQveulH2qojB6REcFI=; b=PM2/gh7cvbCyoQw11Jegf+qb6OXCwCI17G++gcrZtDMlyOOfasQf5ucI2e1ZhIqSZF OQ7qdHiJs+59fli3U0lvZhWRk5IuznM7jXLb/HbZ5IWLcboLmMfH9uHYc9+eVPkvXSem ixHn6m5JEYO7W0Obm/IbxQNkLLLnmS3/dizlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=N9wUkN2GYXsleW4GFyepNcjeBf6KxOMxIgqn1miJ6BDmxNrayqfXD51NvwXqW7nKDz tfsGgvhWUxetP3byWW+vO5v5qb+pRjDu6iXXBOyoRaHUoyFr6HNwqPNaZUWk8Ccn66y4 Yo9qKPyNNjH/RCinM3Qu0XmA2SOeA+Bwdkfs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:17:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: adGE1XBVrnuxhgm1Ia2wxs2rKO8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Confirmation Message from Daniel Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba61384ef7cfcf049d70a5e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:17:35 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba61384ef7cfcf049d70a5e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I unsubbed us... hope it works... cant have any old riff raff sending shit to the list eh? On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 1 Mar 2011, at 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote: > > loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, > > You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a > contact. > > "I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach system for my mailing > list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'm sending out this > courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to do anything to remain o= n > the list. Thanks for being a fan!" > =97 Daniel Harris > > Your options: > Confirm my email so that I will be eligible for any exclusives from > Daniel Harris > Do nothing and remain on the Daniel Harris mailing list. > Unsubscribe from this list > Report Spam or Abuse > > > ------------------------------ > > This email sent through FanReach from ReverbNation. Daniel Harris have > indicated that you have requested this information. > ReverbNation.com: 501 Washington St., Suite D, Durham NC 27701 > Update Contact Info > Unsubscribe > Report Abuse > Privacy > > > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba61384ef7cfcf049d70a5e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I unsubbed us... hope it works... cant have any old riff raff sending shit = to the list eh?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:= 14 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :)

=
<= span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-= weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0= px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
Matt Stevens




On 1 Mar 2011, at= 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote:

loopers-delight@lo= opers-delight.com,

You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a con= tact.

"I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach sys= tem for my mailing list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'= ;m sending out this courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to d= o anything to remain on the list. Thanks for being a fan!"
=97 Daniel Harris=A0

Your options:
=A0Confir= m my email so that I will be eligible for any exclusives from Daniel Harris=
=A0Do nothing and remain on the Daniel Harris mailing list.
=A0Unsubscribe from this li= st
=A0Report Spam or= Abuse=A0


3D""		This email sent th= rough FanReach from ReverbNation.=A0=A0Daniel Harris have indicated that yo= u have requested this information.=A0
ReverbNation.com: 501 Washington St., Suite D, Durham NC 27701
=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0Update Cont= act Info=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Unsubscribe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0Report Abuse= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Privacy=A0




--
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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba61384ef7cfcf049d70a5e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 19:24:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78680183464; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LLZYUETDKoNn2UWaZvGvd3ssaTIY//cuPmEOLLKHRLc=; b=FKgEGPFDJRQTgmjLWcvD6of+QXHJ5aNu7dJhUSVIfFWM34oDqn5CmScEZ5V8s0NceW BwchgBJzp9ZGF1SDl7yl/w8ut7zQRRi7/wl+JTkywMdY4m3MpLkr0SNsJhH8InFy947I M7GzihC7hVXaNSrrnoVYdmjnOJ5QmWBzaqhdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=itd4T71RDIxpJ9aD49KMYvtxWRT1LltSfBVOyQu3UlHrMuYXT2LdIcweaBnoehPoRR 9jrEp0pCUrRcwPMps3xRdJ/6gA2u2NlJBnAd+uuOq11NSIjIqEIuiqZLY7D1FTTn1Rka Z2jhspM+KjN79GTYlKiYNsTNGQ1jPD8IlDg+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:24:52 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hUAgKhCqc840cG5v-MrAnDTVWjA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Confirmation Message from Daniel Harris From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mark francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e325880f049d70c0d6 Resent-Message-ID: <8nq5vD.A.cyC.GgUbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:24:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e325880f049d70c0d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry gang! I'm new to using that thing and I must have clicked on the LD list when importing. Sorry about that. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM, mark francombe wrot= e: > I unsubbed us... hope it works... cant have any old riff raff sending shi= t > to the list eh? > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Matt Stevens < > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :) >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> On 1 Mar 2011, at 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote: >> >> loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, >> >> You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a >> contact. >> >> "I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach system for my mailing >> list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'm sending out this >> courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to do anything to remain = on >> the list. Thanks for being a fan!" >> =97 Daniel Harris >> >> Your options: >> Confirm my email so that I will be eligible for any exclusives from >> Daniel Harris >> Do nothing and remain on the Daniel Harris mailing list. >> Unsubscribe from this list >> Report Spam or Abuse >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> This email sent through FanReach from ReverbNation. Daniel Harris have >> indicated that you have requested this information. >> ReverbNation.com: 501 Washington St., Suite D, Durham NC 27701 >> Update Contact Info >> Unsubscribe >> Report Abuse >> Privacy >> >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --20cf305497e325880f049d70c0d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry gang!

I'm new to using that thing and I must have clicked= on the LD list when importing.

Sorry about that.


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:17 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancomb= e.com> wrote:
I unsubbed us... = hope it works... cant have any old riff raff sending shit to the list eh?


On Tue, Mar= 1, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com> wrote:
Wow uberspam! Very brave adding a public list to a mailing list :)

=
<= span style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-= weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0= px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
Matt Stevens




On 1 Mar 2011, at= 19:00, Daniel Harris wrote:

loopers-delight@lo= opers-delight.com,

You are receiving this message because Daniel Harris added you as a con= tact.

"I recently started using ReverbNation's FanReach sys= tem for my mailing list. They hate unsolicited email and I do too, so I'= ;m sending out this courtesy re-confirmation email. You don't need to d= o anything to remain on the list. Thanks for being a fan!"
=97 Daniel Harris=A0

Your options:
=A0Confir= m my email so that I will be eligible for any exclusives from Daniel Harris=
=A0Do nothing and remain on the Daniel Harris mailing list.
=A0Unsubscribe from this li= st
=A0Report Spam or= Abuse=A0


3D""		This email sent th= rough FanReach from ReverbNation.=A0=A0Daniel Harris have indicated that yo= u have requested this information.=A0
ReverbNation.com: 501 Washington St., Suite D, Durham NC 27701
=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0Update Cont= act Info=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Unsubscribe=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0Report Abuse= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Privacy=A0




-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--20cf305497e325880f049d70c0d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 19:48:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3C70183460; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:48:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2tqPnB.A.pbD.T2UbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:48:35 +0000 (UTC) >> I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". I know those dreams. Mine resulted in a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: http://blueparticles.com/particles/album/burningman2009/slides/IMGP0239.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZveIJjxJ0 ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 21:16:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C153183461; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TP/LLyB6iRQAbGwVVCUDRYMB4XgfAPmxVBZsh1Sx9Nc=; b=K9+4dTcLYGne83LbkJWHvrLtR/NA6xbAKAUUOpDj0bnE9IEiuFtpzNaqtzb5hHi3y3 M5pDHrw02YtRFYaHpwrHyEcqSAB6eQJPFo0XDtycEf9CLDnMzRpPfgD4TUZNvNFe3JRG dWgh994E+Zg42CXns/dudVyWYRog95JwlFMRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lAEgXXwfCSNMWo0E3iebFZZXLHHIi0iFpU+muODllc9vZ2VcK1V73rmx74zoEFapLA Eh/8AGZLNzmNbS6Gl+2q1G4qltGwElPTpef8pWGf/0dbOzCJF2CVcaefOfvZaeAVdEMT jz157ytZBpNlh7Olyhf4PuxzPmOUFFSPw7lsw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 22:16:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: virtual guitar pedalboard From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/02/14/virtual-guitar-pedalboard-interface/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 1 23:11:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C02BC183461; Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ulc2xC7JY5dH5qj4c6m6+xXMMkl/JKK4qs1jncpFDv4=; b=NQRVlwpeyYnfQH7Jahh+zedNex3gkWI2ekD52R2NC7kypZL1WUXA7wguOA3CaqeXvb 0w/H5An3bJAgMefsWS1hHgwKzUZOUjV3+0Q94AK2vxw+zPLJ1kpukQe+bqK1sb2TDYTh s/ZqwBl7mfgTpbZWfAcTm4AUMgdcltQUia9/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v1w+SkgYZwAwdyJKDawJQmgwU0SoqkpTI5uVQZ4/rAkMOfSDxKmhvjdCyW8hMJ3IDl iK3VNu86DW+gi73VK2dvS0QP/YIQyOD2gjlbj5jGXt3zAeHkVvK9OE+sP5VwTSF7FyN4 E0QVx5G/VN0eIqH4lTyU8jSf3y9eijZtCgL8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:11:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d91915fc7b049d73ec0b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:11:56 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d91915fc7b049d73ec0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice ideas Simeon, I'll be messing with that for sure. Luis,this may (or may not) be of interest to you. I had floated the idea quite some time ago, but the example I posted was way to long and the idea may not have been clear enough. A while back, when Per made a few posts about the Chapman stick tuning, I got interested in playing with stacks of perfect 5ths laid down on separate tracks and and then pitch shifting the tracks individually in order to define different harmonic functions. Since I was interested in a rythmic ostenato for this, I never even considered the rate shifting that Simeon is using and the pitch shift in Mobius needs a bit more development before it's ready for showtime. I played around with several VST's in Bidule and found that 'Son of a Pitch' seemed to be efficient enough that I could run several instances on my old Dell 6400 without choking. So I set up 6 instances of 'SOP' on the first three stereo outputs of a Matrix which was connected to the Mobius Stereo outputs. You'll see the layout in the this group. http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/SOP_PitchShift_Mobius.bgrp http:/ww.samplesmith.com/LD/PitchShifted.mp3 links to a little demo where I lay down a quick 3 loops (any rhythm or note order you want, of course) and just play some scalar stuff to illustrate the idea. The way it works is: 00:00:00 1. Record a stack on Track 1 Notes C, G, D 00:02:11 2. Record a stack on Track 2 Notes Eb, Bb, F 00:02:22 3. Record a stack on Track 3 Notes G, D, A This gives you a nice C- Dorian chord to blow on. Now you can shift the tracks individually. The descriptions here relate to the the unshifted (original) notes. 00:27:05 Shift Track 2 up a semi-tone and it goes to C Lydian, say Cmaj7#11 00:40:11 Shift Track 2 up a semitone and Track 3 up a tone and you still have a Lydian scale but substituting A, E F# for the G, D, A it's a different flavor. 00:49:18 Shift Track 2 up a Tone (to F, C G) and Track 3 up a tone and you get a similar thing but with an F natural in the mix, suggesting a IV chord. 00:58:18 Dropping all 3 tracks a semitone gives a substitue for a V function -at least that's how I use it. 01:07:22 And dropping Track 2 a semitone gives a D Dorian sound which can work for a ii or a IV chord. 01:17 Back to the original C Dorian -forgive the blooper! The way I set it up in Bidule was to preset the individual instances of SOP to plus or minus 1 or 2 semitones and then turn them on or off as required, so if you load the group you'll see, TR1_SOP -1 CC56, meaning Track 1, Son of a Pitch, minus 1 semitone, controlled by CC56, etc etc. The reason for the matrix was to route Mobius tracks 5,6 and 7 through the same shifters as 1,2 and three. That way, I could record some more ethereal stuff (differing loop lengths work fine) on those tracks and they would change function with the chords. The complication with that is you are restricted to the same note groups on on those tracks as you are on 1,2 and 3. So, it is a bit challenging to stay within the parameters. Track 4 is unshifted, giving a safe place to 'land' after recording the initial loops and also provides a 'blowing' track that won't get pitch shifted while you're soloing (can get interesting if you don't do this). I started doing some analysis on this but got distracted with some gigs at the time. Here's a pdf that might offer some ideas -unfinished. This certainly isn't for everybody, and it ain't the 'be all and end all' for harmonizing, but it does offer quick loop build up and excellent voice leading. It might be more practical on midi controllers with *lots* of buttons, because there are obviously way more options than I've listed here. I hope someone has some fun with it. k --00504502d91915fc7b049d73ec0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice ideas Simeon, I'll be messing with that for sure.
=A0

Lu= is,this may (or may not) be of interest to you. I had floated the idea quit= e some time ago, but the example I posted was way to long and the idea may = not have been clear enough.

A while back, when Per made a few posts about the Chapman stick tuning,= I got interested in playing with stacks of perfect 5ths laid down on separ= ate tracks and and then pitch shifting the tracks individually in order to = define different harmonic functions. Since I was interested in a rythmic os= tenato for this, I never even considered the rate shifting that Simeon is u= sing and the pitch shift in Mobius needs a bit more development before it&#= 39;s ready for showtime.

I played around with several VST's in Bidule and found that 'So= n of a Pitch' seemed to be efficient enough that I could run several in= stances on my old Dell 6400 without choking. So I set up 6 instances of = 9;SOP' on the first three stereo outputs of a Matrix which was connecte= d to the Mobius Stereo outputs.=A0 You'll see the layout in the this gr= oup.

http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/SOP_PitchShift_Mobius.bgrp

http:/ww.samplesmith.com/LD/PitchShifted.mp3 =A0=A0=A0 links = to a little demo where I lay down a quick 3 loops (any=20 rhythm or note order you want, of course) and just play some scalar=20 stuff to illustrate the idea.

The way it works is:
00:00:00=A0=A0= 1. Record a stack on Track 1 Notes C, G, D=A0=A0
00:02:11=A0=A0=A0 2. = Record a stack on Track 2 Notes Eb, Bb, F=A0=A0
00:02:22 =A0=A0 3. Reco= rd a stack on Track 3 Notes G, D, A=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0

This gives you a nice C- Dorian chord to blow on.
Now you can shift = the tracks individually. The descriptions here relate to the the unshifted = (original) notes.

00:27:05 Shift Track 2 up a semi-tone and it goes = to C Lydian, say Cmaj7#11

00:40:11=A0 Shift Track 2 up a semitone and Track 3 up a tone and you s= till have a Lydian scale but substituting A, E F# for the G, D, A it's = a different flavor.

00:49:18=A0 Shift Track 2 up a Tone (to F, C G) = and Track 3 up a tone and you get a similar thing but with an F natural in = the mix, suggesting a IV chord.

00:58:18=A0 Dropping all 3 tracks a semitone gives a substitue for a V = function -at least that's how I use it.

01:07:22=A0=A0 And dropp= ing Track 2 a semitone gives a D Dorian sound which can work for a ii or a = IV chord.

01:17=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Back to the original=A0 C Dorian -forgive the bloo= per!

The way I set it up in Bidule was to preset the individual inst= ances of SOP to plus or minus 1 or 2 semitones and then turn them on or off= as required, so if you load the group you'll see, TR1_SOP -1 CC56, mea= ning Track 1, Son of a Pitch, minus 1 semitone, controlled by CC56, etc etc= .

The reason for the matrix was to route Mobius tracks 5,6 and 7 through = the same shifters as 1,2 and three. That way, I could record some more ethe= real stuff (differing loop lengths work fine) on those tracks and they woul= d change function with the chords. The complication with that is you are re= stricted to the same note groups on on those tracks as you are on 1,2 and 3= . So, it is a bit challenging to stay within the parameters.
Track 4 is unshifted, giving a safe place to 'land' after recording= the initial loops and also provides a 'blowing' track that won'= ;t get pitch shifted while you're soloing (can get interesting if you d= on't do this).=A0=A0

=A0 I started doing some analysis on this but got distracted with some = gigs at the time. Here's a pdf that might offer some ideas -unfinished. =A0=A0

This certainly isn't for everybody, and it ain't the 'be al= l and end all' for harmonizing, but it does offer quick loop build up a= nd excellent voice leading. It might be more practical on midi controllers = with *lots* of buttons, because there are obviously way more options than I= 've listed here.

I hope someone has some fun with it.
k


--00504502d91915fc7b049d73ec0b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 00:55:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3271B183461; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZX9vX4w4LEj5DaQWLUM+zewYogB7CDBipeEyN8k7uis=; b=L0i9gcW+7fJnyAQ2XaGqmHAIMGqFjkf49obxh3sPmr+W0RT3IJb8y9JH+OqF3rFS5z JcGFxEZO7Oq6CuSSjPzVo6y+AE8q11fZCTUpo7V8dfX75bBRULabgjU5e7hxJmMFqCmi jHytS1w2uq1oYk/SqpuPdhkUaflekC3DjLu8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SY9ueZ7CCYaYIH/XvSHcbA/fCResIDcOD2vMY8GAOSB1IqDquX3D1y1borhYrrever hQeq2R8b4l3cusUOQu4Z+dP8XaNEeevndlyADGQeTIGaz/R7ll20ZEdCWp4kInyYxsIi v0ShXdauy/BrgwmGw9iYxxFRuMGLzp27SwHAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:55:33 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: virtual guitar pedalboard From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8892c9cffd049d755ef5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:55:34 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8892c9cffd049d755ef5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow. That is awesome! Huge potential! On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/02/14/virtual-guitar-pedalboard-interface/ > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --90e6ba6e8892c9cffd049d755ef5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow. That is awesome!
=A0Huge potential!
O= n Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
http://www.cru= nchgear.com/2010/02/14/virtual-guitar-pedalboard-interface/




--
Rafa's One Man Band= Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.= facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--90e6ba6e8892c9cffd049d755ef5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 09:37:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54AA0183474; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299058644; bh=j4UbLbM9bhkeBlIPx8LsA2GHBT8AZyu9cSARYeIre0U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qjxx0Lbbw9Ga4JweaDf8N5bYV0T+5CyKgPpxEf/kB9kgin4VEoKX/10Bg7edGLwRih+idFYdqTvnvIO3BuTAyGu/AofHNAIzds0UvQMAsDVYewxe6MarAOkqW7MA6IChHDhzYvNfhF4Uq/ObZX0to51Vhuuaqx7S87PrdLrKEM0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ewKu+G55dv9k6QljBC28uzzuIasVENvPEJh7z10PFrRuSxRBoJDL4XmcM3KT9oNIPJzwHdWwaY8ceXcivrj+NHksOdd7K1mcp3SFwvK8c/pOh56vOE+mrU5Eyp5ksAPyZQCgbrJ3P/WMl0LtzEcF95fFZRrTWtaJTWLkRtnWy5U=; Message-ID: <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gvlZQqQVM1nTmyyy2G1zw3RrZ9MWTRlEVTOGiu6Io8C9eAw uFlX8m3UKKDwK2bhLAdlppAw4QOC5rtXJEUx4kmqVmMplLw0Nb2KbmhiRMnT LwFSigf.jHNbzRQnNkeQa_3LQWNS.POViFITfiPINWCdudR2cPko6qzquI9q 6oPWAEVxGlAuwt4QzBn_VxD8Oz0AuNaf1T2Bg_Na.Eoz1AHiiC8XuoUhTv4M DC9UOaFhpA474NyQmzu9CtFnTcCehklZj7DsCijXOSLEKXtqvKfXZmDacH2N tt7AwJKmyODJuSmi1AQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:37:24 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-604083794-1299058644=:89076" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:37:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-604083794-1299058644=:89076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions: - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a Mac Book Pro? - what is the best windows version to install? I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I have. Antony Hequet --0-604083794-1299058644=:89076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions:
- what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a Mac Book Pro?
- what is the best windows version to install?

I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I have.

Antony Hequet

--0-604083794-1299058644=:89076-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 10:46:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AD35183462; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587001588/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AocCALaubU1YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmAMxzB+FYQSPWoMh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,252,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587001588" Message-ID: <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:46:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:46:54 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions: > - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a > Mac Book Pro? Amazon? If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition from decommissioned machine. > - what is the best windows version to install? depends on your definition of best.. ...but not Vista ;-) > > I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I have. Those should have docs to tell you what you need. There's no advantage in getting a later version than that, and beware that drivers may not be available for later editions of win. Probably you're looking at XP SP2 either Home or Pro edition. (there's no advantage using Pro, which is usually more expensive, but no disadvantage either). andy > > Antony Hequet > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 10:51:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDAA4183462; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 293754.56346.bm@omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1299063118; bh=kpPdPgTbpeQ0PXgUsDu7KUujTCj70zh1fd0aD2xnDOA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JRignlkfOC/R9B2i8IqMoqhE9hGzG0/MQAT5gwWUtFgf7y5yBJz90LQIpJXgNXSJpuWfxm0GsZJXfh+Nb36nFevbbrwBOJ7hYR142F/SmZ6r0DdjaRRKGv0G94P7UvcPu5eL4lM2FGKzwhkaHkfHfgdOChnJf78CjnfcgrgKm3g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TJH4qfABdBT3PbvhsO4gGcmDTAjKkjOzYx0kq7xI9/WUcjFbQDwUlWtAInAunHAsE39t9OEon0laq0uxIxmURkHgLRWhUEcNcw0mkz6b9uEC9ruaJ1RearwXVpGGPqSyxZ4QeeyPpLHiMd0MIbSOxaCaDucJ3Y97iJvUfLY3IaI=; Message-ID: <8979.23855.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KJcX6dIVM1nh20HIkEoFufnx9nLtF3AxSWrg4JvH.WZGo6H 6Xr.NmdJ7E5lLwN6B9eS50taEx.bVTQxTebHGI_o.OIErA.073YJy1rqFrD_ b0i7UU6ex8aesLse.BL3B6Rh8ZckYvvYufj59n37hMZlHVaE6IrLwY6Vvtv0 L63i.iEDjxaWuMdOqV8rXONhFFEh._0ddtDrvp5GzulmtBm1OpZND2REcD7y 9YYk- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:51:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP message To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:51:59 +0000 (UTC) I just had 'dEAdr' appear on the display of my EDP when going into nextloop= . Prev loop kept repeating, but all front panel buttons and FCB presses we= re inoperative. Everything *seems* OK after a power down/up.=0A=0ANever se= en this message before, no mention of it in the manual. Only thing I'd done= differently was to change SYNC to Out (previously Off), about 45 mins of u= se ago.=0A=0AAny ideas?=0A=0AStephen=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 10:57:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F21D183462; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MGNSsytFsKkQhFLQ4eVE8sAYQz/gwgxG/s5/gUeflTs=; b=J9EKL3b/qWUmu7rFgXAp9wXnswKn3Hws8OFd+3EYE+uqxsfP6PDBMajfeALnGic2/1 1YcV758NManDDhjP+lsRgmn5VpHYM5o36JFDvitQWtf+DPygjPbv+Li9YFhhz/1JdC4u OBdHE9gpnZyWHQtDrkxSOkzbL7op+tLrt5ZOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eMhNFObYdTsqX952Fwh5Z0gcgUzaXMLLTM2GpxbcUsPBBZnDdbqB/xz63A1B+xvEzd W1UTg66GNnwyGNyzgiIS/KbFWps4rkST7FUMOuUsIl6bM04Nt+giSebxxreTUn7aoFwt NOMUYVa7+kiPQ6wR9wQUNRnv9FYfrQtlfBHGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:57:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:57:05 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition > from decommissioned machine. That's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 11:01:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DFDB183462; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 586950247/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AocCAIexbU1YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMhByUGLtKkF2BJ4NEdgSPWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,252,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="586950247" Message-ID: <4D6E23A6.6020605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:01:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP message References: <8979.23855.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <8979.23855.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:01:54 +0000 (UTC) That's one of three error messages that you may see when the edp crashes. Just reboot and it'll be fine. If you can get the error where the EDP looks ok, but cycles through the whole memory of the current loop until it finds it's way back to playing the audio that it ought to then you get a certificate. I never figured it, but something to do with Nextlooping away from a loop before it's sorted itself out after Mult and Reverse. andy Stephen Scott wrote: > I just had 'dEAdr' appear on the display of my EDP when going into nextloop. Prev loop kept repeating, but all front panel buttons and FCB presses were inoperative. Everything *seems* OK after a power down/up. > > Never seen this message before, no mention of it in the manual. Only thing I'd done differently was to change SYNC to Out (previously Off), about 45 mins of use ago. > > Any ideas? > > Stephen > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 11:37:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4F0183466; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=xO2zrsov/iWEnmCh//lK3UN1mIceHXA4SieH/Bv9Qcw=; b=iVPKCeRo0V+Mug/XxNYqQC0SDXds9Foa/Azn5jUIXZn/rubOslMorx9AHB6drlK4Nb ebN6UeKjpcQwfa0AlIW3Y/1Et4HoLs3+UCDsFJdZq8xRpqmFqD0j+w+egdBgexBEwnlk to75rssy4sb9Xm+Lbtm8hoRE6azvFKHBus6/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=idc1szfZJWZNFfk7TTi4WU9a2HwqTzxGhJHSnhRKXyeHxt9Q3ky9ZsUmBgSRKQxWcO qUDBsDDrZGeF4Ci5RtaiDMUz2KRDy+ibhO+3DmZhYZ1Tljg09OiNVZeFAWwn980agK+8 GHuJdQvmEna8qF7v6PsT4IJ5OCzBViPa7Yh9o= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? From: "Bruno E. Kleinefeld" In-Reply-To: <20110302110155.960AF183476@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110302110155.960AF183476@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack here, a = part the long polemic about the commercial, tough it is a month now that = it is on the market. The hype about it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see on = the Elektron users forum the first software release seems very buggy, = but I guess that this is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated I wrote to the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control = implementation will be available in april, while the looper machine is = "a little beyond that date". (Doing that in april means probably that = they will not miss the Frankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged = and midi-controled) I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On the = other hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises actually) = are big: " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only difference = is that it will be much more powerful than your average looping device. = Dedicated looper machines will be implemented in coming OS updates." On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and even David Torn = has showed proactive interest...=20 Did anybody here already try it? Are you digging/waiting it?= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 11:58:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A793183466; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 965360.82560.bm@omp1029.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1299067094; bh=YH9CUw8YuilQ1V32DKFrHYfz8qszAxJPIzwWtSsgrYQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rNSf4VLm4hWxGxPl0cOZ1FX+IPU1kJu/dr6JVac4MdZW+h7uZ1Gpb0QBj8KfmX2utm4wt6/iO0e1S+vCaWapsNhTVL8p4O2eVOZyqcgSCfEdkWd3BK+w74G9D/DKt7/7cUjkE8bKHlrlCKKRL9DjQJUWySHcXV0GeLukWcwv8XA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zab5YAhcMNiK5qnGdMHqobh/LRTa5a76xOflMjY9DB9udLmx8HnC0TWAREVbWgg1aB5JK8ezX65lh0z6dfvhnHygJ1H7yQoGqzI40LxflArM4aXxe+ehpRNB9sYJaXimp8lHxSs0OWvMJt0KQwEMmApXIgzeqeVkU4KwHnB4Jsk=; Message-ID: <780563.83158.qm@web24613.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aSrj1EYVM1mJCSCHidgoX190KsPL8T1G7BTIt2rL0eMDA6N 4TU2nTfwamzfuhk7E8i5pB7jSq4lYzOu0RCFRJ2ORvaen7YPpPpyS3mHYf18 GmVimarQEMNfdmIfOiLj5rKC3TqMVHBGvMkX.l8CtQDn4fY8rCqmkKpCDX.3 dgydhv9y1ip7KYgZyWDYY2fJNQl.x2r.MUc8TA8L3FhWzwq.hi.VtTVuhRnu 4nOWy7Q8fZPAupGzVIUpm5A0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:58:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP message To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6E23A6.6020605@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:58:16 +0000 (UTC) re:'dEAdr' message...=0A=0Aandy b wrote:=0A=0A> That's one of three error m= essages=0A> that you may see=0A> when the edp crashes.=0A> =0A> Just reboot= and it'll be fine.=0A=0AThanks Andy.=0A=0A> If you can get the error where= the EDP looks ok,=0A> but cycles through the whole memory of the current l= oop=0A> until it finds it's way back to playing the audio that it=0A> ought= =0A> to then you get a certificate.=0A> I never figured it, but something t= o do with Nextlooping=0A> away=0A> from a loop before it's sorted itself ou= t after Mult and=0A> Reverse.=0A=0AThe challenge is on!=0A=0AStephen=0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 12:18:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BC46183463; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 04:18:29 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Thompson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:18:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: >>> I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". > I know those dreams. Mine resulted in a dust-covered two-person > five-track MIDI looper: > > http://blueparticles.com/particles/album/burningman2009/slides/IMGP0239.html > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZveIJjxJ0 > > ...Tim... This is really awesome, Tim. Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works............it's kind of intuitive but many of us weren't there. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 12:25:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2FD7183464; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AZPHNHEz7ITPL4S7Jg1Jhym4+kEZIo2FPux/qmvISvA=; b=r2dIF3/+oEUP8wXl1H3TwEfYdVuE2kGYg+kpRf/8/9m0iB82UfqmewkP8ec88JNKYs 4VCx79R+8fZPVmRYXiot/mdipXRU+EQ0iACpzUlTmKPSeMC6qX8/b88smFZJwaUcJecD 3Rgsdi600kMXVfhcNMYRixSItpgtt1kCFc5bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=muC1sohpSD3U5M8v2u4csEZGQ2hyUfENa+ZvUazfb8DNLhX0W/FTcRWjYN2JWREiEK kIniAJweAI2WSzl9wqLU9DGSe+5UDDfcLpHwlUmN0twNYE0eTC7bJXLY0mGwmHYlxx+q B5T1vKUeR5P4svQL9ug+x3NydgU04onQO4bIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:25:47 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd23ed8389282049d7f0395 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:25:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd23ed8389282049d7f0395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lol! that may just be the coolest thing i've seen this year >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHZveIJjxJ0 >> >> ...Tim... >> > > --000e0cd23ed8389282049d7f0395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! that may just be the coolest thing i've seen this year


=A0 =A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaHZveIJjxJ0

=A0...Tim...

--000e0cd23ed8389282049d7f0395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 12:33:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1AEA183463; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fd587c25-0eb1-4ff0-9ce2-9f22737f7a05_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:33:24 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20110302110155.960AF183476@arsenic.violacea.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2011 12:33:24.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[05FD7A10:01CBD8D6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:33:25 +0000 (UTC) --_fd587c25-0eb1-4ff0-9ce2-9f22737f7a05_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY learn= it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loopers... h= owever you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audio... Yo= u can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including a "though" machine = which can be youre live signal with or without effects=2C trigless trigs an= d other nice stuff.. With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it = via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking right now. = The effects are GREAT=2C and it also sort of works as a mixer. Live guitar = and trough machine on one input=2C you EDP or other looper on one input and= 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them..=20 When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to rhythm= ic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sound good= . Trigless trigs are a lote of fun=2C you can pitch shift at diffrent seque= ncer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody=2C or a shot loop= and pitch it reversem stutter=2C apply effects.. once you undetstand that = it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant do on loopers that the Oc= ta can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is n= o problem staring with zero samplas and built intresting peice live. It's m= ore a live recordign device with unique sound sculpturing capabilities than= a looper right now... BUT with midi and a loop machine toghter with what i= t already does with the Beta OS it can be a really=2C really intresting new= kind of tool.... i have two short clips on soundcloud.. just experiments o= ne guitar looping sort of thing and one where i live sampled Splattercell a= nd mangler it lika one could mangle a live band sample... http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=3Danders+bergdahl =20 > Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? > From: bruno.bk@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi folks >=20 > I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack here=2C a= part the long polemic about the commercial=2C tough it is a month now that= it is on the market. >=20 > The hype about it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see on the= Elektron users forum the first software release seems very buggy=2C but I = guess that this is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated > I wrote to the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control imple= mentation will be available in april=2C while the looper machine is "a litt= le beyond that date". (Doing that in april means probably that they will no= t miss the Frankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged and midi-contro= led) >=20 > I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On the other= hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises actually) are big= : " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only difference is that i= t will be much more powerful than your average looping device. Dedicated lo= oper machines will be implemented in coming OS updates." >=20 > On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and even David Torn = has showed proactive interest...=20 >=20 > Did anybody here already try it? >=20 > Are you digging/waiting it? = --_fd587c25-0eb1-4ff0-9ce2-9f22737f7a05_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an Octatrack since a few =3Bweeks but have not had time to REALL= Y learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loope= rs... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audi= o... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including a "though"&n= bsp=3Bmachine which can be youre live signal with or without effects=2C tri= gless trigs and other nice stuff..
With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it = via midi =3Bfoot switch so =3Bas the only looper it's sort of lacki= ng right now. The effects are GREAT=2C and it also sort of works as a mixer= . Live guitar and trough machine =3Bon one input=2C you EDP or other&nb= sp=3Blooper on one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them.= .
When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input =3Bcan be turned in to= rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sou= nd good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun=2C you can pitch shift at diffren= t sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody=2C or a sh= ot loop and pitch it reversem stutter=2C apply effects.. once you undetstan= d that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant =3Bdo on loope= rs that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcre= ator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas and built intresting peic= e live. It's more a live recordign device with unique sound sculpturing cap= abilities than a looper right now... BUT with midi and a loop machine toght= er with what it already does with the Beta OS it can be a really=2C really = intresting new kind of tool.... i have =3Btwo short clips on soundcloud= .. just experiments one guitar =3Blooping sort of =3Bthing and one = where i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a li= ve band sample...
= http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=3Danders+bergdahl
 = =3B
>=3B Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it?
>=3B Fr= om: bruno.bk@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100
= >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi folk= s
>=3B
>=3B I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektro= n Octatrack here=2C a part the long polemic about the commercial=2C tough i= t is a month now that it is on the market.
>=3B
>=3B The hype ab= out it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see on the Elektron use= rs forum the first software release seems very buggy=2C but I guess that th= is is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated
>=3B I wrote to = the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control implementation wil= l be available in april=2C while the looper machine is "a little beyond tha= t date". (Doing that in april means probably that they will not miss the Fr= ankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged and midi-controled)
>= =3B
>=3B I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep.= On the other hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises actu= ally) are big: " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only differe= nce is that it will be much more powerful than your average looping device.= Dedicated looper machines will be implemented in coming OS updates."
&g= t=3B
>=3B On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and ev= en David Torn has showed proactive interest...
>=3B
>=3B Did an= ybody here already try it?
>=3B
>=3B Are you digging/waiting it?=
= --_fd587c25-0eb1-4ff0-9ce2-9f22737f7a05_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 12:45:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D664A183461; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bEl1CzPm1xXb168fx/KwBFblOJflO7NZsoJCk13eZ78=; b=IpdS9J48GW9A9bCG3/GVPNnAHoSjuM5cZiF6GjUVX4Kath0DCEkhmdVVJiCVjYzAdr EJcnoQ2K18wpHOs6x4UZeJRQn8+6RWitcGomZlkX7ZM0XOSoQ62lha127lftBdonmxAL 4kQpkXc2BnpY4Lqn3UiXE/vGdNljsp6xVWypI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m10QJIT0A9iOZbAPr0oeGcvzP0kDCgLOAl8vvGzOcDnMeg3HqCBmt0cm7jcRK3KRQG lNJfX5vEclGjVztar0ElN3FmegCUR9IUkYhbxxxpGbmXUsW4TiaK7EiwO493RQ9VbB38 xBQ60jEuee4IpKEm4zBatq+Lu0cgyHU10+m5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:45:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d03386cd1f9049d7f4932 Resent-Message-ID: <-vjZkB.A.JjD.lvjbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:45:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d03386cd1f9049d7f4932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/3/2 Per Boysen > > That's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 Same here. My Macbook is from 2007 and I run Bidule and Mobius in Win trough a bootcamp partition. Waiting for Mobius 2.0 to definitively delete the Win partition and switch to the mac . -fabio www.eterogeneo.com --20cf307d03386cd1f9049d7f4932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/3/2 Per Boysen
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That's =A0what I use - an old OEM version of= XP SP2
=A0
Same here.
My Macbook is from 2007 and I run Bidule and Mobius=A0in Win trough a = bootcamp partition.
Waiting for=A0Mobius 2.0 to definitively delete the Win partition and = switch to the mac .
=A0
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--_ced79c25-c966-4d5e-9e32-fea4b7c271e6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 14:34:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D308183466; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:34:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:34:20 +0000 (UTC) >> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: > Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 14:42:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6E27183465; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4A0AAA55-9480-453D-8282-0620652C8BED@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:41:35 -0500 Thread-Topic: windows on Mac Thread-Index: AcvY5/YEJmekPTW4RWOQR0IFMr3pLQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2011 14:42:07.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[017C80A0:01CBD8E8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Yes, XP rocks!! Ok not rox but Sux Less!! Vista sux mightily!! I might hav= e an OEM xp pro laying around Antonio, let me look.=20 Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 14:44:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02420183477; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ow9YZxyyIHAqx8YEsuS0BZIZb1bHJe/E1M4vVs6BrEA=; b=SOzU6lD8aj1SzpyhXFfcr7B5P3/ZV2XBTx6atqh3AlcKz+O8r1Rf6IcA4ztoa809wq Kxb006LC4Owwg5nIknUxP9kmJ4AQLDh+Nxz3YERkswDjgw2Hu3vOl8f/t0DznujZRzNE h/t3vUqu63iaBvelxxWXqh7etuz5NlIA98tgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VR81/UZRRiXAlPl2UoGdQSwGvFdLEGkflsB3P6I3vNdFaNDpDlbLZhcuJiX1D7RERd FATaLeEqw9wOt/ylNk6tuQLg3+dcU8/JOeM20MBM3P/j0N888Ce1zEyHfjD+qrolIyHf eOmIH8IV9+rtl632r6vnYyhWMW7xbRI/z1nN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:44:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51506cefff1049d80f21e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:44:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51506cefff1049d80f21e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really really cool, Tim!! :) Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away! @Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects. Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old audio looper I once posted here... Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > >> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: > > Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works > > Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: > > http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf > > ...Tim... > > --000e0cd51506cefff1049d80f21e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really really cool, Tim!! :)
Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it= 's sooo far away!

@Antony... that's an ide= a. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and tur= ning a couple of different modules into MFL objects.
Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the ol= d audio looper I once posted here...
Also, I'm slowly getting= into more "real" ie, c++ stuff.
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com> wrote:
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>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper:
> Would you be into describing how you built it and ho= w it works

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XP pro OEM would be most welcome; I have been f..g around with this for months for some crazy reason. Starting to feel jinxed. However cast that spell is going to suffer as i laugh him or her away to another remote galaxy when I finally make it work.

XP rocks the universe:-)))

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 3:41:35 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac

Yes, XP rocks!!  Ok not rox but Sux Less!!  Vista sux mightily!! I might have an OEM xp pro laying around Antonio, let me look.

Andy o

--0-2114185452-1299077173=:21903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 14:52:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5402E183462; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299077573; bh=K1wzyopVzQo1ZJaCUBYQ2sq6nCLwk7CPJU4GLriTVz8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E4ur0ysuzod5LaDyNG0++DHF5ukdO/YaH/gIaX7BWQRHh4OgLA8eVDxmp1BQ5OBscMIP8OUFnRisFWxxDwnSsHIwCB5dY7d18LuKNK6faXfwvfmBL96zX7dZXXHODeYlO5n0fgr+w7MJVhTXW5KxnBhiJuq//anEADI0hb7zYr4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bmR9/Rz9kQVYDqb9Rp6fQPVHzvAKQzhFfZfoNiikdIe6KhW9zxgquLYlhbWQjZA31x5bSb1Bqgv4oI6ecVNNs9gYPWhf43p/3XizL3o30QHTFWcDMPCF8WHo8uI/FWeloKcVMjuo51rodFE27SkheWdL1klOK5MkvmRoCXINytE=; Message-ID: <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RQF5SbIVM1ln179FBtrt4GOcrNEe.cq2yJwm81FIAeRexBv uRZvTJR7DFiZcDxy41Z9Gi7jO_ftWni5e5OZ1ipeVEv39j3DssthPxBRvtqQ .tDzIGOf2Dbjd_pcUR1GHL35EH7bta_HryAwsZu6SgzO38pGuKwPpW8ePSvU cW4jdLUR3QZ9gJco7ewl1SLdMBPAmSAitI31hLoFPBkKZbgTemrpIBAcLCwu 14UtzJZNmPlluBQasTuf0JeqqA06MSUFAQKmDHlew3x05530Tli_z8rkfrKg T8_GxKvWFEg5R.dqBnS191uATnXS1ZEgbKOk0rrDW.Tvrn.isVo3RzmuO_Q- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1142704933-1299077572=:31353" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:52:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1142704933-1299077572=:31353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but accessible. A ________________________________ From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Really really cool, Tim!! :) Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away! @Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects. Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old audio looper I once posted here... Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: >> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: > >> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works > >Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: > > http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf > > ...Tim... > > --0-1142704933-1299077572=:31353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but accessible.

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From: Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM
Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

Really really cool, Tim!! :)
Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away!

@Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects.
Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old audio looper I once posted here...
Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff.
 

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com> wrote:
>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper:
> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works

Here's some slides describing its construction and operation:

     http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf

 ...Tim...



--0-1142704933-1299077572=:31353-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 14:59:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38CE6183473; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <27570BA8-B5AE-4331-8B37-080C3B309041@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:58:45 -0500 Thread-Topic: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Thread-Index: AcvY6lf0eTZodTY3SYC4B81Ra4oSWg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2011 14:59:21.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[69470500:01CBD8EA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:59:22 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: >>>> I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". >> I know those dreams. Mine resulted in a dust-covered two-person >> five-track MIDI looper: Man those little white wires look like they are just waiting to be Ipad conn= ectors!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:00:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D396518347D; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pl+tc3KksyQUekblKUBvtvWspc2qmQHSuw7h5gtFRzY=; b=igCfC7zzyd4IDsyB8u9u3kZtMXfR4rOX8WBLCVjIse7Pb8/GyV8uiypPsT2vdXRDXw wQwH9wIkxxxlWkh/qqfrVVBKMPAr1geVEbEfw67W2tfyU6u2s42HEQbpwKIbIh+FtYvg uGQsyb7VjrCLGiKYi07gpvXqUtR9CjOhP/P6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sRN0pL1Z/B0Gi3LGZC5DnLqgIDCXb/rvlCVEvnS/lNOhhhqpsCOdxqgmXnMQgPUTfJ 15KpY6xhKncSoqFxV0TYrhjYyglA31mfsW3WZoBKG9DbdslW/Qp7YoAOdYstaUxh/elr SldD4wel5X65kl4QxLASNqfIXgtjGz5oJFTJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:00:13 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: monitoring cpu usage in bidule From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd71a16818e9d049d812b6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:00:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd71a16818e9d049d812b6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 is there a bidule for it? i normally have the main window minimised, so i can't see the dsp readout sim --000e0cd71a16818e9d049d812b6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 is there a bidule for it? i normally have the main window minimised, so i can't see the dsp readout

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--000e0cd71a16818e9d049d812b6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:02:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF23A183488; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tPFQGAh0t3g/vnovjuwSCJuiZmcsZNJpgP2baxhXHHg=; b=Esjg9dbwk/keh2fwy9Ei5mmfudEp16q3oN60MskLk/c2ND6+UgSgIR9ADl95hdBP0T +KHg0YfXdg/b0/VnVuEC3JUzJmsXnDJHdWjZ/zFhxP+qjpS7bnFuqHpt5Us1Oww46ZU6 Dv4to6/G9kWJgv2NW7wcTpN5q8F+iMdpVeOKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=onjn4DTwHQ504etRSQ3p88DEtVnUpfNDvibxsBI6PkGlgVrrTlHs0YNNAo9J0dBCbW 28+w0ygL9No9XYl+JXC79xvIaYlGjQSbW0N1+8yrYT1SjtEpl3CjFgDMNy5EAf5oTzDt SLPJ1UsmsQIaPq2LvCle30zgfoEu4oWcSDYl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:00:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:02:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > Always wanted to go to Burning Man Me too. Overseas... Checking BM YT clips here now. Cool festival. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:19:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C09D183494; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=e5tELh+edl1wYOaQjojyHP4LdBDpGvBUmiehYWMq8Dg=; b=vrvVmQvIhrsDEdIWGneS3gq9HKJXE83qcH7019MhOfmvPF83w3mehfeMcNjGXRn0vI 196eD9wUPin9A+GcuD6P8AXSZ7WIFSLZmi0l7vAJHOR0mqXrLCDgTafQdW3UNmwKcb2l Hkw3STQHhrWgwJ9l7/ffP6vtddVtzTGCjzXSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=T5yaFt4BYsgfhLuDH20VSdMn2Lzl6pTaFjaoYxfZM4EeYZafQ3vZOSOV2i3u577Q6X guZn9o+MlbIrIOT/KfnGKQw6bUF64JRhOqqt0exCVUqIkuLu8p6sSyTJhzuUoTpylNOP bdJulMK9GTt4kZhmuoYj98dSJayI7XWeVNB8k= From: "Bruno E. Kleinefeld" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-796909730 Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:19:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20110302150015.B2ADA183485@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110302150015.B2ADA183485@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:19:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-796909730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Anders yes I know you have it :) from The Gear Page... I have been listening with attention to your = samples, specially the guitar one.=20 but the fact that one has really to LEARN IT, written in capitals... = scares me. Not that I do not want to learn... but I start to be tired to be = surrounded by screaming things that ask me TO LEARN THEM! It is just that the OT seems so intriguing... the first device in a = while that explores (or promises to explore) new boundaries of the = looping thing. We'll probably have to wait and see what the new OS will bring. Keep us = informed! best b:k >=20 >=20 > Da: Anders Bergdahl > Data: 02 marzo 2011 13.33.24 GMT+01.00 > A: Loopers Delight > Oggetto: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? >=20 >=20 > I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY = learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define = loopers... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of = input audio... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including = a "though" machine which can be youre live signal with or without = effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff.. > With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't = do it via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking = right now. The effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a mixer. = Live guitar and trough machine on one input, you EDP or other looper on = one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them..=20 > When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to = rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still = sound good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift at = diffrent sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody, = or a shot loop and pitch it reversem stutter, apply effects.. once you = undetstand that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant do on = loopers that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and = rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas and built = intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device with unique = sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT with midi = and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the Beta OS it = can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i have two short = clips on soundcloud.. just experiments one guitar looping sort of thing = and one where i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could = mangle a live band sample... > http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=3Danders+bergdahl > =20 > > Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? > > From: bruno.bk@gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Hi folks > >=20 > > I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack = here, a part the long polemic about the commercial, tough it is a month = now that it is on the market. > >=20 > > The hype about it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see = on the Elektron users forum the first software release seems very buggy, = but I guess that this is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated > > I wrote to the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control = implementation will be available in april, while the looper machine is = "a little beyond that date". (Doing that in april means probably that = they will not miss the Frankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged = and midi-controled) > >=20 > > I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On the = other hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises actually) = are big: " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only difference = is that it will be much more powerful than your average looping device. = Dedicated looper machines will be implemented in coming OS updates." > >=20 > > On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and even David = Torn has showed proactive interest...=20 > >=20 > > Did anybody here already try it? > >=20 > > Are you digging/waiting it? >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-8-796909730 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Da: = Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.co= m>
Data: 02 marzo 2011 13.33.24 GMT+01.00
Oggetto: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering = it?


I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to = REALLY learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly = define loopers... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 = seconds of input audio... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main = output including a "though" machine which can be youre live signal = with or without effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff..
With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do = it via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of = lacking right now. The effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a = mixer. Live guitar and trough machine on one input, you EDP or = other looper on one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and = mangle them..
When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in = to rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and = still sound good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift = at diffrent sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a = melody, or a shot loop and pitch it reversem stutter, apply effects.. = once you undetstand that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you = cant do on loopers that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive = remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas = and built intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device with = unique sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT = with midi and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the = Beta OS it can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i = have two short clips on soundcloud.. just experiments one = guitar looping sort of thing and one where i live sampled = Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a live band = sample...
ht= tp://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=3Danders+bergdahl
 =
> Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it?
> = From: bruno.bk@gmail.com
>= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
>
> Hi folks
>
> I didn't = see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack here, a part the = long polemic about the commercial, tough it is a month now that it is on = the market.
>
> The hype about it is pretty high. On the = other hand for what I see on the Elektron users forum the first software = release seems very buggy, but I guess that this is pretty normal for = something so deep/complicated
> I wrote to the Elektron guys and = they told me that the Midi control implementation will be available in = april, while the looper machine is "a little beyond that date". (Doing = that in april means probably that they will not miss the Frankfurt = MusikMesse without showing it debugged and midi-controled)
> =
> I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On = the other hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises = actually) are big: " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only = difference is that it will be much more powerful than your average = looping device. Dedicated looper machines will be implemented in coming = OS updates."
>
> On The Gear Page there is a long detailed = discussion and even David Torn has showed proactive interest...
> =
> Did anybody here already try it?
>
> Are you = digging/waiting it?



= --Apple-Mail-8-796909730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:19:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35EBB1834A0; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=75jjVGFsgrbv/JZsBCiheB6y6ztGk8ZbK2iyzpJIuq4=; b=BDvsVibQoxpNkdD4M2X8SFh0CnKJnJooxrfkZDntP3v973ARRDzdHjIELFJ944CiNn ICUc16TiAdPEaN0puMJNh/2gmeAYfCYT8e5LQzJIHj6lL6CLx9Th67IKci6XxFxWlkEx HDQM5hDVE8FuRKfnKKflLMGL7Gt+e+esD0e5w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rcQ98FOKX3++z+LMfSdrJXEZuEgbhByzPMyjzQHvHSoPAGNjQDOpLIsiTznc34Frz6 u9zcFzexU4naY8AtG1pehgIy+D/KujqEydVuA0h065sbkqIQH0/5sSHtwRq+0wJIo/hS cWn8rCIfO+vvnKGi/r4Ol4GMeN+4KV2DZ40rU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:19:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4836a3ceff7049d8171d9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:19:45 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4836a3ceff7049d8171d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what you can do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extra - interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with some kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it! So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwise, I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the whole thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time! In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant is there to post :) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but > accessible. > > A > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Lasse juul Kolding > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > > Really really cool, Tim!! :) > Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away! > > @Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking > about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects. > Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old > audio looper I once posted here... > Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff. > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > >> >> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: >> > Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works >> >> Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: >> >> http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf >> >> ...Tim... >> >> > > --000e0cd4836a3ceff7049d8171d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what you ca= n do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extra - = interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with = some kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it! So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each = other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwi= se, I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the w= hole thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time!
In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant= is there to post :)



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
MFL should be a good way to get somet= hing out there, not universal but accessible.

A

Sent: Wed, March 2, 20= 11 3:44:21 PM
Subject: Re= : Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

Really really cool, Tim!! :)
Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it= 's sooo far away!

@Antony... that's an ide= a. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and tur= ning a couple of different modules into MFL objects.
Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the ol= d audio looper I once posted here...
Also, I'm slowly getting= into more "real" ie, c++ stuff.
=A0

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson <me@timth= ompson.com> wrote:
>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper:
> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works
Here's some slides describing its construction and operation:

=A0 =A0 =A0http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf<= /a>

=A0...Tim...




--000e0cd4836a3ceff7049d8171d9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:26:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4EF1834AC; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=evEnK4c0yLnYuYc67ZOCZvs0E4I9WRx/CQ08I3x7N2w=; b=csUzRXqhtCfRSrY6mifbRZQm9Ni+WGAdSd5bX+AhIQRhR7cpgEgy1EnthYqBTTs9YW A4QKILb85mbbGHrj/nDEk/PwHFsEPvXa3xcRz2LCCJyqRoS/Gaf6MmM5dAbpbjOVdYgS ZhZhgZFTpB5qadeY0WLeEr9M1UoIgTgHqq5DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FN1v3nYjKWFB7xCK6ycrwgVltORAh2LSKnzLGCNzXjCWrbPE5xGRijkD7tqmnr89ZW ntrRh3SOJn7bPObxr4PDGMXwhY9jfM9YnT7zp1vBARzwO6y9vv9fZMUMdwfBmU4fbtkM kJtUX02DJ3j98DVqpk0tZJLf2KdPsEXklJyhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:26:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: monitoring cpu usage in bidule From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Don't think so. On windows? You can run the task manager minimized and set it to show the little bar graph in the notifications are of the task bar --but that probably costs more than its worth. k On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > is there a bidule for it? i normally have the main window minimised, so i can't see the dsp readout > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:38:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAD0818345F; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299080286; bh=nXRbuAa/pjghNLSKl/VjqQoqJjx3XjWapMnZlVgEObg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jILqSuzMkZFYc7fneuqMuv8rimBm/vOqhxo3e3jdfrXLpp9PyB8Pmmz0aBLf18k9pjUfw4agv+NW+dOMYoA2UzMiK+IRn/r5/TguENIfOKoQxx7W8/R0ZB2oLxWw0r3hWv7IZFQG3CBVQ5fr27uf/qCahJoVA92LrOz6xFegypA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=28OSwi9BxeRVQCZQ3L60JWpC//TM7DRFqthha4Tra6C74dtz2yVtxxYjNSoQ3aI+qgWhdY026bVkI2QafNJNeuYSYhEV0KTfpXULyv2OeQjqZQk642bobIxuAVByltp05q2ZDP5H8U4OmpVkf87zclI3I2aYlhXEH0PE8Sykhjc=; Message-ID: <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FstQeaIVM1lpBqUK8cz9W0FoazWQJJT5XUVSy76NRw539vk xtYizmxFPqLuYrhU2YU2qjBJAc0rWt5S6bGZGjB8lv_BXZQ1eDBuWFACbG1C pOmhRcNIAefzmdI9W_NZ0zkydOxcwghxSpaUflqygwsLB1KssDTnRx05RYio AOOSNd3gDSdmkZj0L_GHp0btp_Ll1TFsm6TmsLDOPDak4HX7ZKqvSwVoSyJ4 9vMyMgXcHd30iaUXrBlMKZzut00dHXoSYeBrV7gqg8NdFsLS.159fO3RozJG woItuojaXMBk1a0f3E15QZtaHIPkEQ9BEFLK6VpIUlhn6j9NpUQwUBlAiwA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 07:38:05 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-832715433-1299080285=:73182" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:38:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-832715433-1299080285=:73182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii a stand alone looper then. Antony ________________________________ From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 4:19:42 PM Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what you can do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extra - interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with some kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it! So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwise, I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the whole thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time! In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant is there to post :) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, wrote: MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but accessible. > > >A > > > ________________________________ From: Lasse juul Kolding >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM >Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > > >Really really cool, Tim!! :) >Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away! > > >@Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about >getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects. >Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old audio >looper I once posted here... >Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff. > > > >On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > >>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: >> >>> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works >> >>Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: >> >> http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf >> >> ...Tim... >> >> > > --0-832715433-1299080285=:73182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
a stand alone looper then.

Antony

From: Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 4:19:42 PM
Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what you can do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extra - interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with some kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it!
So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwise, I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the whole thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time!
In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant is there to post :)



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but accessible.

A

From: Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM
Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

Really really cool, Tim!! :)
Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away!

@Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects.
Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old audio looper I once posted here...
Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff.
 

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson <me@timthompson.com> wrote:
>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper:
> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works

Here's some slides describing its construction and operation:

     http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf

 ...Tim...





--0-832715433-1299080285=:73182-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:50:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE90D18347E; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vgzSfNdXX78uPyrjUzQyzpf555RtkCcHN4bWc8YCesE=; b=JNd/VnojIZ7ng2vHnbNf2QeUTl5wvc2NHbWpTh7sigKt8sWGEraDux+B2PvX2VbZb/ CC2YWhj860/qQwlxQSW1DKtGf8+r6hxb+nVaSpWnL6Tl15m4EswjeH1tO40LwsbQl13l pLKadN1oEfFXmKbp1rRkQQp1CnjhpABwHTLFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=iwjsKcqxwb4uX/brMquyE9uCSxL6O9Q3kr9qSlj5G3KbRalKH2PNES4+Kzd2pIMrkz M9eD6ux4p1IayQhVfqxEd/nPchxub9NMy8mkObJKAz0WNPnEw9oqdCzPxbFR2d6ucXuD fviLE9Om+JTUhtxip93Hs6U3XsO/L0IQsd7sw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:50:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: monitoring cpu usage in bidule From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd71a16a8e604049d81dfac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd71a16a8e604049d81dfac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh ok. .on a mac you can do almost the same thing. i've just set up activity monitor to open on startup and display a little cpu graph as a float window in the bottom corner of the screen sim On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Don't think so. On windows? You can run the task manager minimized and > set it to show the little bar graph in the notifications are of the > task bar --but that probably costs more than its worth. > k > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > > > is there a bidule for it? i normally have the main window minimised, so i > can't see the dsp readout > > > > sim > > --000e0cd71a16a8e604049d81dfac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh ok. .on a mac you can do almost the same thing. i've just set up act= ivity monitor to open on startup and display a little cpu graph as a float = window in the bottom corner of the screen

sim

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
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Don't think so. On windows? You can run the task manager minimized and<= br> set it to show the little bar graph in the notifications are of the
task bar --but that probably costs more than its worth.
k

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
>
> is there a bidule for it? i normally have the main window minimised, s= o i can't see the dsp readout
>
> sim


--000e0cd71a16a8e604049d81dfac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 15:56:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3651D183486; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299081411; bh=qvkZqh63C+5OZoHBVOkZZ+YclkGUL1EIOmiEa84NA5U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MPgi5nH5hyMJzlygd2L/z6jksOH3EXGrpkLqENHCa5AuTK9lTRsawxz/sijvUZMH2nA/puc1q7OuVJXfj03iNu0BAQJjhMC7sakHvGCDTkxbLgn91iAY0xbnAEcO8Kpghomr8wQCvNLO0cosJgBf0b2ydkEaMFLkbVKVcShYjgQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c/xkmdM4XK67ddIQ9BfFEcDeYQi9EO24xn3nnTppU2wMpxaJaaRphfZbTV0vlWlxl5EG0NqU7IOlFNzXTcaMrCe2A7C6leHVZB/VImPDhPvlocRqy8GBKnesC7ERK+3mwBmmLnKIBxoifY32kW75zxb7YRvQ4jlofTc5QCaxBww=; Message-ID: <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NcBmt.cVM1nJwwpJD8zBX11axU.8361zqb78yF.fXh9W4f9 3LmJx75ixV5nx2UTG8.HsvBHgyfKoBfzNgstmq9RUEtfBCugPa8Pwvh4qMtg Jrf7YHOewxYsRq.x5802EqYUAXwcXwKnHyNQJO2Yawo4vTQgru6tmd7EYKpu pGvn_wVUNbStAqhqkOEvqfFo2qMIqcrPSTjbIP9CF62Fnsml.4xmmMxCLcLI qhL_Fv0t7YkdHNQpSPAdKmjxIy.pKnaHzzBG7AVY0snHlvVVbIA7G8hwn_9o YgH_SWPOJIkM8lIjPvualvd8vyr9.wDaJ2wpWTUTffZey_stRglAYHZpElPW IChiL X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 07:56:51 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-430773722-1299081411=:10913" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:56:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-430773722-1299081411=:10913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition > from decommissioned machine. please give me some more details so I can find it for sure Per Boysen that's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended version If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that? Antony H --0-430773722-1299081411=:10913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition
> from decommissioned machine.

please give me some more details so I can find it for sure

Per Boysen
that's  what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my
first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the
original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the
original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp
partition. Costed me no extra money to set up.

Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended version

If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?

Antony H




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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1575574382-1299082559=:37831" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:16:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1575574382-1299082559=:37831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am very interested in the Octotrack despite the silly film. Just want to see it work as a simple looper before I am ready to spend money on it. Antony ________________________________ From: Bruno E. Kleinefeld To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 4:19:33 PM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? Hi Anders yes I know you have it :) from The Gear Page... I have been listening with attention to your samples, specially the guitar one. but the fact that one has really to LEARN IT, written in capitals... scares me. Not that I do not want to learn... but I start to be tired to be surrounded by screaming things that ask me TO LEARN THEM! It is just that the OT seems so intriguing... the first device in a while that explores (or promises to explore) new boundaries of the looping thing. We'll probably have to wait and see what the new OS will bring. Keep us informed! best b:k > > >Da: Anders Bergdahl > >Data: 02 marzo 2011 13.33.24 GMT+01.00 > >A: Loopers Delight > >Oggetto: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? > > > >I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY learn it. >As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loopers... however you >can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audio... You can sort of >overdup bu sampling main output including a "though" machine which can be youre >live signal with or without effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff.. >With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it via >midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking right now. The >effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a mixer. Live guitar and trough >machine on one input, you EDP or other looper on one input and 6 tracks to >sample the inputs and mangle them.. > >When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to rhythmic >patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sound good. >Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift at diffrent sequencer >steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody, or a shot loop and pitch >it reversem stutter, apply effects.. once you undetstand that it is NOT a EDP >there are a lot of stuff you cant do on loopers that the Octa can do. It's man >power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with >zero samplas and built intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device >with unique sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT with >midi and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the Beta OS it >can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i have two short clips >on soundcloud.. just experiments one guitar looping sort of thing and one where >i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a live band >sample... >http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=anders+bergdahl > >> Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? >> From: bruno.bk@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hi folks >> >> I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack here, a part >>the long polemic about the commercial, tough it is a month now that it is on the >>market. >> >> The hype about it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see on the >>Elektron users forum the first software release seems very buggy, but I guess >>that this is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated >> I wrote to the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control >>implementation will be available in april, while the looper machine is "a little >>beyond that date". (Doing that in april means probably that they will not miss >>the Frankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged and midi-controled) >> >> I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On the other hand >>the promises (we don't have much more then promises actually) are big: " The >>Octatrack can function like a looper. The only difference is that it will be >>much more powerful than your average looping device. Dedicated looper machines >>will be implemented in coming OS updates." >> >> On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and even David Torn has >>showed proactive interest... >> >> >> Did anybody here already try it? >> >> Are you digging/waiting it? > > > --0-1575574382-1299082559=:37831 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am very interested in the Octotrack despite the silly film. Just want to see it work as a simple looper before I am ready to spend money on it.

Antony

From: Bruno E. Kleinefeld <bruno.bk@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 4:19:33 PM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it?

Hi Anders

yes I know you have it :)
from The Gear Page... I have been listening with attention to your samples, specially the guitar one. 

but the fact that one has really to LEARN IT, written in capitals... scares me.
Not that I do not want to learn... but I start to be tired to be surrounded by screaming things that ask me TO LEARN THEM!

It is just that the OT seems so intriguing... the first device in a while that explores (or promises to explore) new boundaries of the looping thing.
We'll probably have to wait and see what the new OS will bring. Keep us informed!


best

b:k



Da: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
Data: 02 marzo 2011 13.33.24 GMT+01.00
Oggetto: RE: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it?


I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loopers... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audio... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including a "though" machine which can be youre live signal with or without effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff..
With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking right now. The effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a mixer. Live guitar and trough machine on one input, you EDP or other looper on one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them..
When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sound good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift at diffrent sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody, or a shot loop and pitch it reversem stutter, apply effects.. once you undetstand that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant do on loopers that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas and built intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device with unique sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT with midi and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the Beta OS it can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i have two short clips on soundcloud.. just experiments one guitar looping sort of thing and one where i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a live band sample...
http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=anders+bergdahl
 
> Subject: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it?
> From: bruno.bk@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:37:48 +0100
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Hi folks
>
> I didn't see any recent discussion about the Elektron Octatrack here, a part the long polemic about the commercial, tough it is a month now that it is on the market.
>
> The hype about it is pretty high. On the other hand for what I see on the Elektron users forum the first software release seems very buggy, but I guess that this is pretty normal for something so deep/complicated
> I wrote to the Elektron guys and they told me that the Midi control implementation will be available in april, while the looper machine is "a little beyond that date". (Doing that in april means probably that they will not miss the Frankfurt MusikMesse without showing it debugged and midi-controled)
>
> I am really thoughtful: the learning curve seems very steep. On the other hand the promises (we don't have much more then promises actually) are big: " The Octatrack can function like a looper. The only difference is that it will be much more powerful than your average looping device. Dedicated looper machines will be implemented in coming OS updates."
>
> On The Gear Page there is a long detailed discussion and even David Torn has showed proactive interest...
>
> Did anybody here already try it?
>
> Are you digging/waiting it?




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The mac runs a bit hotter under windows and the keyboard baklight has a life of its own. But it works fine. My only problem is that I've gotten used to using multiple fingers for various actions on my trakpad and I haven't been able to replicate that on windows 7 (haven't spent a lot of time on this, probably could work). That and I keep hitting mac keyboard shortcuts with no results. I don't think I can dual boot my mind. Sylvain On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wro= te: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's=A0 what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommend= ed > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that= ? > Antony H > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 16:21:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD901834AE; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/QCSZiKBp7Qq4lCAKOisdnFQCfjcLqk0VU4RRD/FEBg=; b=RgRMMkRFJuZiKbnvEQs3Jtr+YkS3n6AlwlxPZAcdocnafkB01Gi84z8zz7a+JkX58z kHYOO1dQ+WCRClp883La31D+7zSYrKEkzceo7SjTF/2DvRAdeARRbX3lIVoIKAsC0jS+ EDrO+aAH2I6WtyD+Jm+ndDI9ql9JSSZFGsN1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=in3Zdo9IHZUDroSwi8D01+lepsEKuut0xu7qOBFu5kSCoyQBmXa7mbOZwWivrp37tY OcozqkRYf7dbkcEbQZkE0vXufFuoW879mA+Qxz9w+kvZWKe0b6PQvo/ggeat+RcgsK1U VsurSASW5eH9845FYaWovGv8jmonuehCQiwz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:21:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) FWIW, policy here (Canada) seems to be that you qualify for OEM pricing on Windows if you buy a new hard drive at the same time. I did that with XP for the lappy, and more recently with Win7 64 for my des= ktop. k On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wro= te: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's=A0 what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommend= ed > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that= ? > Antony H From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 16:24:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B43781834B6; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KSwj7Lkmqauiccx7ui1wX4FNdeII13nsdNTJ1q+aCXI=; b=dx/sLviSSLB1egbNa2Ja4LzXmGPC/iZXEz0qf13RLnAVfw8LkbKYVRem09gOD3s6tc Rq2FPG2oP1tTtk/SRmS3316VfV3qa3i5jlnoI45k6T5XPpq47R7zrn2+yAe+7kWLZOQw o9ltlnGIRK61nxNJpovTArX3zWqIk3g6f4ZKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dTwxscvZHpcq9VxvSdYxvZcGLmMbCPNMFQGYpm/eQUwu2aC8pSFtsCcZtz4tTHMD9M sRnUUIJVBfdH3X2kIhe/+tMW9A+th8jlq2/bWd2F8mQy/1tJVWtaNwVzjc29JLA8ocvH GlekwKmWCk1Xm3pXInCN8RhL5tBBl3+k2cQAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:18:02 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) When I installed XP on my Macbook I seem to recall that it stated it HAS to be XP with SP2 or above. As always, I could be wrong though. Kevin On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wro= te: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's=A0 what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommend= ed > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that= ? > Antony H > > > > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. 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As always, I could be wrong though. Kevin On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that? > Antony H > > > > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --0-647360879-1299084360=:94872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
OK so SP2
sounds like a useful choice so far...

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:18:02 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac

When I installed XP on my Macbook I seem to recall that it stated it
HAS to be XP with SP2 or above.

As always, I could be wrong though.

Kevin

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition
>> from decommissioned machine.
>
> please give me some more details so I can find it for sure
>
> Per Boysen
> that's  what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my
> first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the
> original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the
> original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp
> partition. Costed me no extra money to set up.
> Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended
> version
> If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?
> Antony H
>
>
>
>
>



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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

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--0-647360879-1299084360=:94872-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 16:46:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6294D18347D; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299084413; bh=+FdT+FEDJxfPChQRxfHbie5jk/wdsbMtH1+a3/hpeZ0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A+1H3K8O1umToZW+zB1ddTvGWp7CDvqFCo0zTroedHTKvaFcWyyYhU+DVsX+EcFWtDMTzam9y4lucN7aD3wFbzdaAE/C7JklmJ8yxmK6fnOJVyAveiLNIZaMpgjm3WvF6hqo/LMjXElgJmn7LDltNYmxcDfw6GtI6FHEv1cQ4pw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N0tXSsbzDCUHI4xfFA5gxz79VVN7HKeYNvFQeOo6sFcGBISdq9bWtlPXOjqqM1RlZIFkeYPEe22Ns1HrjiGFZRbtyZOuqRcphJW6Bf7xVJ5Tsa04oz8KR1Lt3tv3GVq9RcQxV7D3JzVjWaRAhi4FPG6E5h3ztoreWL9s7/fX5fk=; Message-ID: <64720.53447.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Rw2nsLAVM1lxyYFGnAnQ3uwKf_tEgqq9yIZQgaRuUMEBr3P y54NhdEgaoB3xviNfJQ9kx7_8oT708eZk3ihzKGAnCaSljfUeKacfHONDtxP oWAehwH72hDHDs5gr2yOlQFLvXbpqYuGkSfQ8iymT7akdwNYWJX5nKXIM5p7 _vVdGntgupuEhnpTSx.XTsuG2SQWJ70SdQ_R8cP9ISCL2IGUV7IoMOOsM.4y _eCVkc9QNlHnO8UD.6DkFzVoT4MOQwnyyxF_AFcAW_QwB.Gvd1PuoCqWWzEf 27WiVmK0Tz69X5fZRJF6KxT33_sO1fwVAeF0TYzJXfnc30k04tF7qndIiig- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:46:52 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-237470959-1299084412=:53447" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:46:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-237470959-1299084412=:53447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i can dual boot my mind and it's a mess:-) ________________________________ From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:18:40 PM Subject: Re: windows on Mac I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate that I picked up on ebay for 150 $CAD. The mac runs a bit hotter under windows and the keyboard baklight has a life of its own. But it works fine. My only problem is that I've gotten used to using multiple fingers for various actions on my trakpad and I haven't been able to replicate that on windows 7 (haven't spent a lot of time on this, probably could work). That and I keep hitting mac keyboard shortcuts with no results. I don't think I can dual boot my mind. Sylvain On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that? > Antony H > > > > > --0-237470959-1299084412=:53447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
i can dual boot my mind and it's a mess:-)

From: Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:18:40 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate that I picked up on ebay for 150 $CAD.
The mac runs a bit hotter under windows and the keyboard baklight has
a life of its own.  But it works fine.  My only problem is that I've
gotten used to using multiple fingers for various actions on my
trakpad and I haven't been able to replicate that on windows 7
(haven't spent a lot of time on this, probably could work).  That and
I keep hitting mac keyboard shortcuts with no results.  I don't think
I can dual boot my mind.

Sylvain

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition
>> from decommissioned machine.
>
> please give me some more details so I can find it for sure
>
> Per Boysen
> that's  what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my
> first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the
> original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the
> original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp
> partition. Costed me no extra money to set up.
> Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended
> version
> If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?
> Antony H
>
>
>
>
>


--0-237470959-1299084412=:53447-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 16:48:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 682F118349A; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299084530; bh=4l2wjd1MLwRDjr6vXL7Zom0E0lguAnNg53RJ8S425eM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U4yMlSImmrEs4ohHYDaTkL97l1GLzkZ3P4P0gw3MGSoQxaG15g5IHJGs6+rs36xrnltusiqyXBD5E9GOR+kpaWDOSSmAsC8tvq54bhvdXAUh4ZLUScg+AMYI7X1e0B94IjnjmtUJVfiVvKIWdjM8xWHaPE19i17YdSYtyWdBIS8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M2lKVgCRjaDVAg9tgWeBmpEAIop0gO14y6GlA3VMy3s5N0uVVh6BL1LW01KcCm6YCTrwSv5pjRJWymDiqxODllMNBPfirta4zG6X82m5lu+vp6WVmeyFTGmusEvJoWdvk0XQZgS17Fl7k5fEUZdbJUklGYzJSvln+PXdbppmn2I=; Message-ID: <112182.52948.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HsddZesVM1noY6vcWUSnZz8_EZhfm4ATSlCctyHYd2WD7hT AC0xFl1J6Y4dgKOwq9cY3BTSYUXSK16xF0iDpHibFuZMa.rb79i92.u.8qd1 B5eu.UZOI._gpiARTzO3VugfIYcQ62TeCUMBjNZCfcKZ_si9ain7KkW9aeCE ChBef3zZaS4EnKvpDbgcIlLe3.PudaehTSgf_C9GokHtdr6pbxPn9IBsHF7X XjXDVu_Sp9FK7Jt8NWWbgADoKWJQPitJ1nM8efKl_Ub5tpKVsU7Kk5O_mmdL ZsTaKCqtbUOy3K8aVGwACAPESHHFXbE0Iq23FT9SoiHrcEU2NgIwuPTFEWg- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:48:49 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1400012833-1299084529=:52948" Resent-Message-ID: <-0rac.A.izC.yTnbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:48:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-1400012833-1299084529=:52948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's kool. Hey i can never thank everyone here enough: I need to get my head in upgrade ode and this is SOOOO helpful, I have no words to say it properly! Antony ________________________________ From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:21:20 PM Subject: Re: windows on Mac FWIW, policy here (Canada) seems to be that you qualify for OEM pricing on Windows if you buy a new hard drive at the same time. I did that with XP for the lappy, and more recently with Win7 64 for my desktop. k On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition >> from decommissioned machine. > > please give me some more details so I can find it for sure > > Per Boysen > that's what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my > first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the > original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the > original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp > partition. Costed me no extra money to set up. > Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended > version > If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that? > Antony H --0-1400012833-1299084529=:52948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
That's kool. Hey i can never thank everyone here enough: I need to get my head in upgrade ode and this is SOOOO helpful, I have no words to say it properly!

Antony

From: Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:21:20 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac

FWIW, policy here (Canada) seems to be that you qualify for OEM
pricing on Windows if you buy a new hard drive at the same time.
I did that with XP for the lappy, and more recently with Win7 64 for my desktop.
k

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:56 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition
>> from decommissioned machine.
>
> please give me some more details so I can find it for sure
>
> Per Boysen
> that's  what I use - an old OEM version of XP SP2 that came with my
> first Centrino laptop. The authorization code never worked on the
> original PC so Microsoft sent me a new code. But on my Macbook the
> original OEM authorization works and I run it inside a Bootcamp
> partition. Costed me no extra money to set up.
> Is there a particular version of XP I should hunt for, is SP2 a recommended
> version
> If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?
> Antony H


--0-1400012833-1299084529=:52948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 16:54:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ACF61834A1; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+Gf4WworiYSbMLwDgbFlbXs4Plzv+2xmY0aifb6leV8=; b=fFZ6M8AwlisuFxwjgIx7MxE0PHspQrvYzPi8cHprEI+g5tktRjSuFPGLShpyxr15xz 3obqjy1RMHPLtUK0VOluAOz22j7QWelJc/Kg77bNaHQ/GN0GuzFoFgbJS8bJuBfBVBzf z26kC57qGZtG6lzLBrFgYCxWdYO9xkpYcAWDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fKAIR2XVe/jRzzL5j5AsWqAyUbS1IktEqH3sl2J+4rS8WxlqUrHxeZgEn/EERU8m3E uEZ3yfSyos5wXI2MMW0+I1dYci/MT4xwsEIprQzQ7fOVFGoRhskyjdCN3ntBsz5BddEf 7XwwljXGc8NT2afX22QQXk2RJkrWI0nd8fB5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <577664.94872.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <577664.94872.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:53:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM, wrote: > OK so SP2 > sounds like a useful choice so far... ...and remember: If it works well with your audio applications do not - repeat DO NOT - take the recent MS online updates! Leave the system as it is and use the lappy as a hardware box. No Internet, no spam protection utilities etc etc. For stuff like that you can re-boot into the less fragile OS X. A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and access it also when booted into the OS X. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 17:02:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6289A1834AC; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V4jg9TRnEu4V34MMwhNohYuQ1gpBbcuabOnPmajHhfo=; b=IWJ9wOJjGSdQtPmtnRPhOGRD5pOFByTXKoJxhFMudRXjyCVHvKpeuCRCYOzHWHRwCF 9NKEbqgjuqptcYeI3VjYVa0HoFwnQHCeZSMB3aDao3za5zZ9dGz8yx9K/d5zoR7Oxs5n NlM3BZazhbX83eiMfgOjMUd3bttFbL9JxOVJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j2VfCNLnt86UHD0z3EgTTCN/p3694evFe7XF6SMbrVNMhndzBGu9Y/I1VvBz22MlW8 MjiWRgAKLP3DfzJ7/Uz8DgBiWAB3LHco3EPzwc0Z4+iIE/VxGXF9pqirR1V4/wETRWsB yTse2gr83tFyqT/yyNG6c8CDJr6EaC+gTaWKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) awesome Keith,sounds like a hip trick as well ill be checking that out ! thanx a lot Luis On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > Nice ideas Simeon, I'll be messing with that for sure. > > > Luis,this may (or may not) be of interest to you. I had floated the idea > quite some time ago, but the example I posted was way to long and the ide= a > may not have been clear enough. > > A while back, when Per made a few posts about the Chapman stick tuning, I > got interested in playing with stacks of perfect 5ths laid down on separa= te > tracks and and then pitch shifting the tracks individually in order to > define different harmonic functions. Since I was interested in a rythmic > ostenato for this, I never even considered the rate shifting that Simeon = is > using and the pitch shift in Mobius needs a bit more development before i= t's > ready for showtime. > > I played around with several VST's in Bidule and found that 'Son of a Pit= ch' > seemed to be efficient enough that I could run several instances on my ol= d > Dell 6400 without choking. So I set up 6 instances of 'SOP' on the first > three stereo outputs of a Matrix which was connected to the Mobius Stereo > outputs.=A0 You'll see the layout in the this group. > > http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/SOP_PitchShift_Mobius.bgrp > > http:/ww.samplesmith.com/LD/PitchShifted.mp3 =A0=A0=A0 links to a little = demo > where I lay down a quick 3 loops (any rhythm or note order you want, of > course) and just play some scalar stuff to illustrate the idea. > > The way it works is: > 00:00:00=A0=A0 1. Record a stack on Track 1 Notes C, G, D > 00:02:11=A0=A0=A0 2. Record a stack on Track 2 Notes Eb, Bb, F > 00:02:22 =A0=A0 3. Record a stack on Track 3 Notes G, D, A > > This gives you a nice C- Dorian chord to blow on. > Now you can shift the tracks individually. The descriptions here relate t= o > the the unshifted (original) notes. > > 00:27:05 Shift Track 2 up a semi-tone and it goes to C Lydian, say Cmaj7#= 11 > > 00:40:11=A0 Shift Track 2 up a semitone and Track 3 up a tone and you sti= ll > have a Lydian scale but substituting A, E F# for the G, D, A it's a > different flavor. > > 00:49:18=A0 Shift Track 2 up a Tone (to F, C G) and Track 3 up a tone and= you > get a similar thing but with an F natural in the mix, suggesting a IV cho= rd. > > 00:58:18=A0 Dropping all 3 tracks a semitone gives a substitue for a V > function -at least that's how I use it. > > 01:07:22=A0=A0 And dropping Track 2 a semitone gives a D Dorian sound whi= ch can > work for a ii or a IV chord. > > 01:17=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Back to the original=A0 C Dorian -forgive the bloope= r! > > The way I set it up in Bidule was to preset the individual instances of S= OP > to plus or minus 1 or 2 semitones and then turn them on or off as require= d, > so if you load the group you'll see, TR1_SOP -1 CC56, meaning Track 1, So= n > of a Pitch, minus 1 semitone, controlled by CC56, etc etc. > > The reason for the matrix was to route Mobius tracks 5,6 and 7 through th= e > same shifters as 1,2 and three. That way, I could record some more ethere= al > stuff (differing loop lengths work fine) on those tracks and they would > change function with the chords. The complication with that is you are > restricted to the same note groups on on those tracks as you are on 1,2 a= nd > 3. So, it is a bit challenging to stay within the parameters. > Track 4 is unshifted, giving a safe place to 'land' after recording the > initial loops and also provides a 'blowing' track that won't get pitch > shifted while you're soloing (can get interesting if you don't do this). > > =A0 I started doing some analysis on this but got distracted with some gi= gs at > the time. Here's a pdf that might offer some ideas -unfinished. > > This certainly isn't for everybody, and it ain't the 'be all and end all' > for harmonizing, but it does offer quick loop build up and excellent voic= e > leading. It might be more practical on midi controllers with *lots* of > buttons, because there are obviously way more options than I've listed he= re. > > I hope someone has some fun with it. > k > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 17:16:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4F4D1834BC; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=rdPRGEWHlI7CF+LNnhCFthRjg+KtBUgLr+KxTG38qKA=; b=I27iYFjY1KHjolhzJ2fMaGN3RzmhKAMCKHx0aD0hEbdkxQuBBKwKEf/seEV085rAVn sAqKVr+fZ6H4B40YlbF+FJR5/ITeMs+gVvRsgD+AQNIVIkNg0wttumk+WfywioSgKYqD lwtSNQU23x0ciakaN2RfR7Rc0n6jbDs8h3bB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=J36CXER44uTgxLitL5uCleI4k1MrmPAayqQGV95r0+yjKI8bziyLr4wY6Kf4XQaqzm vzxnkIRBBG1OzuGjbRVXic/gFFt47j4R2K23aGWgOignT95Zd6GMYp6/IV/X3Rvhl3pk WZkQHX+ZRoD3oJhus4CQefHF5PNriXGX3Yse8= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Giorgio Robino Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:15:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163631012f1f63d2049d83123f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) --00163631012f1f63d2049d83123f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all I compose sort of ambient music ( http://solyaris.altervista.org) and I wish to come back to possibly use loops as compositional bricks. So, In past I happly used ambiloop ( http://www.ambiloop.com/ ) on windows os, to record some live performances loops (usually with high overdubbing); my aim was to produce seamless loops soundscapes (I used a volume pedal to do smooth fade-in / fade-out)... so the loops just recorded loops sounded perfect (seamless = without clicks) during immediate playback inside the sw, but saving to disk these loops (tracks) for further elaboration with an external wave editor, sometime (or always.. I do not remember), the saved .wav audio files contained clicks ( = no seamless loop); Anyway I solved things and the final result was my piece "Frogs Fall from Sky in the Magnolia Dales" ( http://solyaris.altervista.org/mellowstasis.htm ). Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) save .wav without start-end clicks / artifacts ? (Sorry for my strange question: I can't record and test myself these days). BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on producing seamless loops ? I mean something like the no-more-available http://www.sonicspot.com/zero-xseamlesslooper/zero-xseamlesslooper.html ? Any suggestion welcome giorgio --00163631012f1f63d2049d83123f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all

I compose sort of ambient music ( http://solyaris.altervis= ta.org ) and I wish to come back to possibly use loops as compositional= bricks. So, In past I happly used ambiloop ( http://www.ambiloop.com/ ) on windows os, to record some live p= erformances loops (usually with=20 high overdubbing); my aim was to produce seamless loops soundscapes (I=20 used a volume pedal to do smooth fade-in / fade-out)... so the loops=20 just recorded loops sounded perfect (seamless =3D without clicks) during=20 immediate playback inside the sw, but saving to disk these loops (tracks) f= or further elaboration with an=20 external wave editor, sometime (or always.. I do not remember), the=20 saved .wav audio files contained clicks ( =3D no seamless loop); Anyway I s= olved things and the final result was my piece "Frogs Fall from Sky in= the Magnolia Dales" ( http://solyaris.altervista.org/mellowstasis.= htm ).

Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) save .wav without start-end cli= cks / artifacts ?
(Sorry for my strange question: I can't record an= d test myself these days).


BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on produci= ng seamless loops ?
I mean something like the no-more-available http://www.sonicspot.com/zero-xseamlesslooper/zero-xseamlesslooper.html ?

Any suggestion welcome
giorgio

--00163631012f1f63d2049d83123f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 17:19:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D16C1834C3; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1MhiD40tiFXkOdZAj8uqzwnLjfAu7vO1aBO8580thPM=; b=BApFTtNW//RxKxwishJr9uT03IHNntkdbY/rt/EzcohBKlg+FFLoJcpyfNzgonLrOT 2sfarFU++Rn+pV1tTRg7+4Qkt16RE5E/fcyjcpgUENQZnXQRBW4d5ErTtI6WTVm0BFzA 11qaSahw7+Un53JgxVWQbNnnJcIuRntzmUcc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XXCAj99ZzKm1yX9xDNRdeJErJ6wRwwUbfjVVjaw7WxVyT4HhfCpnhPCU74VrpvOY9f p5ciulv/ggmDlmVkKu6/TQCTIOVjGJe5mBBJ7SRk31QWoMCiaHW23mfOJpiHACwzQMe2 iFA3MSplYbAICqeTKXAjGQjbOAYBvgVb6LmkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:19:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:19:56 +0000 (UTC) And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. (Yes, the caps were by design...). Details and discussion here: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?enid=14075#commentsanchor Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:37 AM, wrote: > I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions: > - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a Mac > Book Pro? > - what is the best windows version to install? > I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I have. > Antony Hequet > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 17:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AA741834A2; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=53UeQPBKv7+jenL/q0u+wWnL0BzSL1kH0QHS5Jh08Gk=; b=gnwHRuH1WVxwdePMg6Jo2mjf4wb3tpldk5Wms6tBLaJqqs7bmhUuwqHx7uGOJtRZ7T 91O+vTDif4JejEJWHiFrsHkmjTe0TnSZasEU//iX6G0rtZp33etMIt0ICbvmAyv82/UM NnKGtaU6cpDFKmTIY8usWs8/hxU3n9GTxjav8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=UjST+N9oYIUc95uKFCVJ5yBA8FbG98RwoEfQsquBS+Y5+8aZAcMPY/qIdusgM7eGFQ pe0DMNctgjWdkwz1/VakLmGikdAb9bYOI0HhFW5l5nVQ50QZcOSdgUXgNACKnMNIDV2G 3a078GCrxPDCcDtIgyYDF2lJgrp8AWGlZJdRQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:22:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6eb0c012928049d83298c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:22:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6eb0c012928049d83298c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 software loopers tend to use small crossfades between the ends of the loops so they sound seamless. once saved, the corssfades are no longer there, so can lead to clicks. i don't know if mobius saves loops with the crossfades intact. hopefully jeff will be able to chime in here. sim On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Giorgio Robino wrote: > Hi all > > I compose sort of ambient music ( http://solyaris.altervista.org) and I wish to come back to possibly use loops as compositional bricks. So, > In past I happly used ambiloop ( http://www.ambiloop.com/ ) on windows os, > to record some live performances loops (usually with high overdubbing); my > aim was to produce seamless loops soundscapes (I used a volume pedal to do > smooth fade-in / fade-out)... so the loops just recorded loops sounded > perfect (seamless = without clicks) during immediate playback inside the sw, > but saving to disk these loops (tracks) for further elaboration with an > external wave editor, sometime (or always.. I do not remember), the saved > .wav audio files contained clicks ( = no seamless loop); Anyway I solved > things and the final result was my piece "Frogs Fall from Sky in the > Magnolia Dales" ( http://solyaris.altervista.org/mellowstasis.htm ). > > Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) > save .wav without start-end clicks / artifacts ? > (Sorry for my strange question: I can't record and test myself these days). > > > BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on producing > seamless loops ? > I mean something like the no-more-available > http://www.sonicspot.com/zero-xseamlesslooper/zero-xseamlesslooper.html ? > > Any suggestion welcome > giorgio > > --000e0cd6eb0c012928049d83298c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable software loopers tend to use small crossfades between the ends of the loops= so they sound seamless. once saved, the corssfades are no longer there, so= can lead to clicks. i don't know if mobius saves loops with the crossf= ades intact. hopefully jeff will be able to chime in here.

sim

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:15 PM, G= iorgio Robino <giorgio.robino@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all

I compose sort of ambient music ( http://solyaris.altervis= ta.org ) and I wish to come back to possibly use loops as compositional= bricks. So, In past I happly used ambiloop ( http://www.ambiloop.com/ ) on windows os, to = record some live performances loops (usually with=20 high overdubbing); my aim was to produce seamless loops soundscapes (I=20 used a volume pedal to do smooth fade-in / fade-out)... so the loops=20 just recorded loops sounded perfect (seamless =3D without clicks) during=20 immediate playback inside the sw, but saving to disk these loops (tracks) f= or further elaboration with an=20 external wave editor, sometime (or always.. I do not remember), the=20 saved .wav audio files contained clicks ( =3D no seamless loop); Anyway I s= olved things and the final result was my piece "Frogs Fall from Sky in= the Magnolia Dales" ( http://solyaris.altervista.org/mellowstasis.= htm ).

Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) save .wav wit= hout start-end clicks / artifacts ?
(Sorry for my strange question: I c= an't record and test myself these days).


BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on produci= ng seamless loops ?
I mean something like the no-more-available http://www.sonicspot.com/zero-xseamlesslooper/zero-xsea= mlesslooper.html ?

Any suggestion welcome
giorgio
=

--000e0cd6eb0c012928049d83298c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 17:53:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 665271834B6; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZtXfGpheG9ByauS7/cL6YEVx6qjD3USlXUB51AtNy4I=; b=DTakdMdibyigcRp1cE69EX/8ndPPvNE2MhVGkHSL4jTxpniqm61Psin/bpeFQobfBT h59wLfUKKrkyx2yWBAVR1vTlyQkm8fYao3pPI2m+v/ZMcZPTVDxl3jyMilm2iM9xrigH i0UoFbQY5DQk0hpQEHiDWNoHDp6ZgwK9/syP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u4OZy7XiarHVzsGsoHicH8s6QQWAzf47HDikA7DzxlQGbHx0QR8XEd3rKyvFH9HLTL g1sfyr2/hDnkSO/aW7ZPVFPpl5Qijz3VkOCRq+qp3rkbr/MZ42bgpT+YR5Kkr35RPILa V/aMc3JnKzXiiZfgj1uE67EbF2q4KACpXMIrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:53:10 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc2480a11af049d839685 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:53:11 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fc2480a11af049d839685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just popped in to say this, and mention that Windows 7 is pretty damn solid for running Audio apps at this point, and you can take full advantage of RAM and cpu. Just my 2 cents. XP SP2 is super solid, but if you need any ram/cpu intensive vst's or synths, I recommend Windows 7 x64 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being > announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO > BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. (Yes, the caps were by design...). > Details and discussion here: > > http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?enid=14075#commentsanchor > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:37 AM, wrote: > > I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions: > > - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a > Mac > > Book Pro? > > - what is the best windows version to install? > > I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I have. > > Antony Hequet > > > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --90e6ba4fc2480a11af049d839685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just popped in to say this, and mention that Windows 7 is pretty damn solid= for running Audio apps at this point, and you can take full advantage of R= AM and cpu. Just my 2 cents. XP SP2 is super solid, but if you need any ram= /cpu intensive vst's or synths, I recommend Windows 7 x64=A0

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dennis Moser= <sinsofmac= haut@gmail.com> wrote:
And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being
announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO
BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. (Yes, the caps were by design...).
Details and discussion here:

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?en= id=3D14075#commentsanchor

Best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:37 AM, =A0<antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of questions:=
> - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on a= Mac
> Book Pro?
> - what is the best windows version to install?
> I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I ha= ve.
> Antony Hequet
>




--
Rafa's = One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--90e6ba4fc2480a11af049d839685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 18:10:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB17F1834C5; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=dZoE/4h7hxu5iJz7iasIQ0zeTwZ7jdZ0EDxyfw8yeuUY3uRTmdtGxGvhh1aUN 5UTUyQW/o6NLU3fYAFQrpWUsYLpTgg4mYdsy6UeYNumkTP3WT4tZ4BoXoPa1Wvt2 BnFpyZkadt3mhfQoXVKaAgTH2FUlGj9VVuOjrj6RgRzhF4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=v500j cIxALRvRkE+950TlvtpUFw=; b=JQONanmuyFLDRv7MSklNjiXUtiL8XBShYWgAD ZX3eC+0XCLJ7ya+dvOk9CjrkAvpZhBKQ6pmf1v8RpDeiU+OMb3/HG7ra6m0n85j+ 39g7oBQVNi+BxgpiG/9bl1NhF0XCrGeJ+r8mf5XgHNf8/74Z7zZKQU0Rmd2LTsFn MJoZLU= Message-ID: <6605d00f979afc9a9541e20e498ed6b5.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:10:51 -0800 Subject: FS: Monome 40h - $300 From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Due to flakes all sales have fallen through. Lowering price to speed things up. Please email if you'd actually like to buy it :) Monome 40h - $300.00 US Great condition, no scratches or issues. New pics up at http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm If you're reading this you probably know all about this little monster.=20 PC or Mac USB interface synth/sampler/controller. All sorts of free software running under MAX/MSP (free runtime available). All LEDs (GREEN!), interface, etc work (I was running it on a Windows XP laptop.) Full info up at: http://monome.org/devices Can accept USPS MO or Personal Paypal payment (or buyer pays PP fees). Will ship anywhere or pick up in Phila PA. Possible trades: EH POG II Clean Bass head - Something clean and powerful for small club use. Roland Bass Synth pickup/setup Modcan A Modules --=20 --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 18:12:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E99581834D2; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=1NlpIomeesn6hhamFiFaxNKbpJ1ZMwYZ1N8As6NRJ2U=; b=FGcFq54koYkFadJpZfd/lwY5SyrjCjuwBOJPF5P0BIXPj/hIWL7m4p1IoXHgQxX0SP cETBftHEI8MjrA6rXB9MaNxENPziL9mU3MGhEiDMjSbYXK8iWNvNV2RDDYok5IVu1ZqB zG4den80Z5Ka+OHjurVHe6u48ElVq7PiMMnIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=YmhGZHKm2SGND6iI/Kk8xJdHXeXt8Hfvp0+Q2AsUHqd2g2Zd9O66aDaLqW+um0ksQg dF/jGA8YM8rQwDY9lIjmWA2gD3o2EpyCN86zdriH6Zrx+IvjKjP460DjZQOTRboRf9WX krDfUV0oP915+8KlHptgUeGF2Dl8XujRIcWAY= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-807288369 Subject: Re: windows on Mac Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:12:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <2C75C9DE-0189-42DF-BE32-058FDAA4FD76@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:12:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-807288369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I might try running a win7 with a live looping setup to test it against = my OSX setup. I have some glitches with Mobius/Mainstage using a = fireface UC that I'm trying to solve before a couple shows I have in = April. Anybody have any good website links on the proper = optimizations(what to turn off) for low latency audio in Win7?=20 -Todd Matthews On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > Just popped in to say this, and mention that Windows 7 is pretty damn = solid for running Audio apps at this point, and you can take full = advantage of RAM and cpu. Just my 2 cents. XP SP2 is super solid, but if = you need any ram/cpu intensive vst's or synths, I recommend Windows 7 = x64=20 >=20 > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dennis Moser = wrote: > And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being > announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO > BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. (Yes, the caps were by design...). > Details and discussion here: >=20 > http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?enid=3D14075#commentsanchor= >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:37 AM, wrote: > > I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of = questions: > > - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install on = a Mac > > Book Pro? > > - what is the best windows version to install? > > I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I = have. > > Antony Hequet > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Rafa's One Man Band Online: > http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc > http://vimeo.com/11499020 > http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-1-807288369 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = might try running a win7 with a live looping setup to test it against my = OSX setup. I have some glitches with Mobius/Mainstage using a fireface = UC that I'm trying to solve before a couple shows I have in April. = Anybody have any good website links on the proper optimizations(what to = turn off) for low latency audio in = Win7? 

-Todd = Matthews



On Mar 2, = 2011, at 12:53 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote:

Just = popped in to say this, and mention that Windows 7 is pretty damn solid = for running Audio apps at this point, and you can take full advantage of = RAM and cpu. Just my 2 cents. XP SP2 is super solid, but if you need any = ram/cpu intensive vst's or synths, I recommend Windows 7 x64 

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Dennis = Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being
announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING = TO
BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. (Yes, the caps were by design...).
Details and discussion here:

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/comments.php?enid=3D1407= 5#commentsanchor

Best,

Dennis

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:37 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> = wrote:
> I know some of you run windows on a Mac. I have a couple of = questions:
> - what is the cheapest way to get a version of windows to install = on a Mac
> Book Pro?
> - what is the best windows version to install?
> I plan to use windows run some editors for some synths and pedals I = have.
> Antony Hequet
>




--
Rafa's = One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/3326175= 3239


= --Apple-Mail-1-807288369-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 18:17:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB4271834D3; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ji/CfCqrpCUcac4DvrVNwRjrlOl1ZM66RXhWXbScBvM=; b=aHTmVO7NeY5GODbJwbPIspT6g24KAUbyrRH0outiKyn1dbME4hQdbOT1vuJmyOm32D 9ZA5zJr4J72TRbo/sgUTWeCrQR/T8u4bZxr24zbe2VE7pKJiLxCZ8Xdhwd82z0Hrv8kg 5ZL9w/RIgILPUxOI3VGEHxzflwV2PMdqQJAEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=E5vwwyhzGkW5MxPvn3p0D16u19IC+DXFTuS58yikgVyozwkrXGIEfC4bcKJNQfEIj6 DtoNWdGrRbGQMKWGXsCVj8x8mK1nxezES1p+G4hkYFrO0cnMaqCPqPd/F2Z+0RAq+RuD Jz1OlvI8Toz461wD2HHpDhmFBhtZDt4eFDZOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:17:36 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Giorgio Robino Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f3aec6cb9fc049d83ed08 Resent-Message-ID: <9TjCT.A.vdF.DnobNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:17:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f3aec6cb9fc049d83ed08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) > save .wav without start-end clicks / artifacts ? I think I know what your problem is. It isn't really an "artifact", the loop is being saved exactly the way it was recorded. The problem is that in a looper, loops normally play from beginning to end and then repeat. If you overdub and you let the overdub carry over the loop boundary, then the audio will not be faded to zero at the begininning and end of the loop. When the looper plays this audio continuously, you don't notice this, it sounds like seamless audio without clicks. But if you save this loop to a file and play the loop in an application that is not a looper, there will be a click at the beginning and end of the audio. This is difficult to talk about without pictures. Layer 1: rrrrrrrr Layer 2: ----oooo Layer 3: oo------ The letter 'r' means the loop was being recorded for the first time, '-' means the loop was playing, and 'o' means overdubing. The result will look like this: oo--oooo In order for the overdub to sound seamless it is important that the looper *not* fade the starting and ending edges of this loop to zero. When the loop is allowed to play forever, you want it to sound like this: oo--oooooo--oooooo--oooo If you fade the edges of the loop to zero... _o--ooo_ Here '_' means silence. The faded loop will sound like this when it plays: _o--ooo__o--ooo__o--ooo_ You normally do not want this in a looper, the faded edges will be audible as a "fade bump" that you will hear every time the loop repeats. If you save an unfaded loop to a file then bring it into an audio application that is not a looper, the start and end of the wave form will have sharp edges that will sound like clicks if you play the wave form without looping it. If you need to do this then you need to edit the wave file and fade the edges, this is sometimes called "top and tail" fading. So to answer your question, Mobius will save loops WITHOUT top and tail fading so that you can load them back into Mobius and have them play seamlessly. If you want to save Mobius loops and use them in a different audio application, you will need to edit them and fade the edges. Most pro audio editors provided an easy way to do this. Jeff --20cf307f3aec6cb9fc049d83ed08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com )=A0
=
> save .wav without start-end clicks / artifacts ?=A0
I think I know what your problem is. =A0It isn't really an "a= rtifact",
the loop is being saved exactly the way it was rec= orded. =A0The problem
is that in a looper, loops normally play fr= om beginning to end and
then repeat. =A0If you overdub and you let the overdub carry over the<= /div>
loop boundary, then the audio will not be faded to zero at the
begininning and end of the loop. =A0When the looper plays this audi= o
continuously, you don't notice this, it sounds like seamless audio=
without clicks. =A0But if you save this loop to a file and play = the loop
in an application that is not a looper, there will be a = click at the
beginning and end of the audio.

This is diffi= cult to talk about without pictures.

Layer 1: rrrr= rrrr
Layer 2: ----oooo
Layer 3: oo------

The letter 'r' means the loop was being recorded for= the first time,
'-' means the loop was playing, and '= ;o' means overdubing.

The result will look lik= e this:

=A0=A0 =A0oo--oooo

In order fo= r the overdub to sound seamless it is important that the
looper *= not* fade the starting and ending edges of this loop to zero.
Whe= n the loop is allowed to play forever, you want it to sound like
this:

=A0=A0 =A0oo--oooooo--oooooo--oooo

If you fade the edges of the loop to zero...

=A0=A0 =A0_o--ooo_

Here '_'= ; means silence. =A0The faded loop will sound like this when it
plays:

=A0=A0 =A0_o--ooo__o--ooo__o--ooo_

You normally do not want this in a looper, the faded = edges will be
audible as a "fade bump" that you will he= ar every time the loop
repeats.

If you save an unfaded loop to a fil= e then bring it into an audio
application that is not a looper, t= he start and end of the wave form
will have sharp edges that will= sound like clicks if you play the wave
form without looping it. =A0If you need to do this then you need to ed= it
the wave file and fade the edges, this is sometimes called &qu= ot;top and
tail" fading.

So to answ= er your question, Mobius will save loops WITHOUT
top and tail fading so that you can load them back into Mobius
and have them play seamlessly. =A0If you want to save Mobius loops
=
and use them in a different audio application, you will need
to edit them and fade the edges. =A0Most pro audio editors
provid= ed an easy way to do this.

Jeff

--20cf307f3aec6cb9fc049d83ed08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 18:22:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148C01834BD; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583535454/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwCANMZbk1YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmAQxzTOFYQSPWoMh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,254,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583535454" Message-ID: <4D6E8AE7.4050408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:22:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9kmfMC.A.XoF.krobNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition > > from decommissioned machine. > > *please give me some more details so I can find it for sure* search ebay, and check the rating of the seller > * > *If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?* > * only advice is "don't get burned" andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 18:46:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30BD31834A9; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=FfyLpZTkqSDkFf60pQBjhlXlntpkQVbbPkEc3leuqLW5czcdSJRnuyi98Ma6S fYm5XfkmGjQbrrY0io7ckNOiHozdY1hFIRuilMHCOFVH/i5lNQSFh0aGDqZq1Xgg /0ev7w9i4YxfVjC7PYCDeIAaBvYxpHsI/4HVAsiaLUVBoo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=gwemU dlh3bkBGS6uU6GrzAxDnOo=; b=rMMi2OMjMx6TYzyAGRFUGkgaieWnE3lO+iHno fzVvAUa61ezT46FBhKHNM1Yt8UFyjPUsLejwQ6UYRo8VARJOTi8P94MZkhJ26yZ+ 1qxuOWSYdILXX3mG/MBDLz3k6kWFoA+mcjrY/yzblV24XvAQ47IQgIsmQziHXGfL U3vDC8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:46:35 -0800 Subject: FS: Ibanez Iceman Bass ICB300EX - $300 From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 18:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Selling an excellent condition Ibanez ICB300EX bass. Note this is not the passive older ICB300. For once they actually upgraded an upgrade and this is a greatly improved instrument that sounds and plays like a winner. Classic black with inlay trim, Pearl inlays on rosewood fretboard, active EQ. It's set up with clean heavy gauge round wounds for a heavy low end sound and a fast great feeling neck. The pickups and eq on this let you dial in anything you want and it just plays like a mutha. Here is an excellent and accurate Video review of this bass. My bass is i= n excellent condition functionally and cosmetically. Will even include newl= y installed 9VT for EQ :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfggGzJWdjVA This is now out of production. Sells for $400-$500 on eb*y all the time. I'm asking $300 for a fast sale. I'd consider partial trades with cash either way for the following: EH POG II Good clean Bass Amp head. Need something loud enough for small club use but not monstrous. Might consider an easy to carry combo if it has a 15" speaker. USPS Mo or Paypal personal payment (or PP buyer pays fees). Pickup in Phila pa or will ship at buyers expense for shipping and box. Will pack VERY well for free. My local CL post with some low res pictures is here: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/msg/2242949991.html References out the wazoo. Email any questions of for pics of actual unit (this is one great looking bass). Thanks! D_ --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:39:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B431183496; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:39:14 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Me again! Finally, I've put together something resembling a demo: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNaFI7wzvrog I haven't shown everything yet (one big feature that I'll do another = demo with soon is merging by dragging from one track to another), but it = gives an idea of what I'm up to. What do you think? The next thing I'm trying to decide is quantized events: - One-finger tap in the middle of a track punches in straight away - If you do a 2-finger tap *after* a 1-finger tap (that is, 2-finger = tap while recording), anywhere on screen, it schedules a quantized = punch-out, based on 1 cycle of the master clock length. - A 2-finger tap gesture from a non-recording state begins a quantized = punch in, followed by a quantized punch out. - A menu item (access menu by holding track) lets you set the = auto-punch duration, from 1x the master loop, to multiples of that, or = fractions of that (as in, 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, etc, in one direction, and = 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, 1/6, etc. in the other direction). I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts on it. Also, I'd love any feedback on those thoughts about editing the master = track duration: The master track length is set by the first loop, and = is displayed visually along the bar at the bottom, like ruler tick = marks. Pinch to adjust the length - that is, multiply it out, or divide = it up. Or drag a track to the bar at the bottom to have the master = clock sync to that track. Cheers =3D) Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:43:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C47418348F; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iKb4E089f3juTBPWCkz/Y2KLQ+lF9b2+7Ut0lU7JV1M=; b=EsmNAPIs/lZCQCtbpuA861rBkU3a8EOT83+Od6Z473kpllRXCMZh/6+JKAaAbIUKTq EWFGYYl22PG8eoMPN7ztCcEij5T3RTDFIRnfC3vL0IFYSJvTVvarKUl7l48Yc5XWdnVN OT1i+UqA0+P719J1wlgQwT+2oJE98lsCHHXNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iJlHU4MIlQErLHKFycRFx6qH/NN7u6K6W2MpDxqOM2oqeOCKAgEu1CQO6Xm8KtLNmz zmCQLbCphjCfNNCrNz+r6M/b20xY8HGzwnUyVcGBLnvptwZ0T3lhq5eRebKBZzv/vRfv luZwFdmOJXzCcmWXGjd1a+9cjb5FM8rlzCpXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:43:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Giorgio Robino wrote: > BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on producing > seamless loops ? Any decent sample editor should do that. My favorite is SoundForge. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:46:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8863318347B; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=wHzQQoqlATJrqVxTHelg9vQV/HXykomfPkxC9VJCdw/0SKlJ8IseKSJ1ln1QN HDV6Qi7VZnu3jbkIfsJYHupHpPskmIw8aufRDcaHV6WQasOySupd3orIqyxXBWvu eqr43BUE86lEIGyIkdpz3kbNbYRvnkavmwgbg4UYPwT3oM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=s2JiP eHVs+ThBnQoIwsfC66uVfo=; b=SGFzhHzrkl+8MdOisyVEVNaMkPXM/P5kFQ50Z rIjoYAfXs16UPpfD+94SA4WUzGz2OviaLBeT5mlsXkBYQafk4o370wwPRyyZ1O1O 5y6Pb71TRPAMNNVHAgGx/arjJTAc0YFh+FlP1Y+JTKAomdJS9jqDPkxBhRmsGta7 noF+Xo= Message-ID: <8752e1154e1435227754348a599a047d.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:46:07 -0800 Subject: FS: Effects pedals From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Synth DIY" , "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:46:08 +0000 (UTC) various cool and unusual pedals FS. I'm CCing SDIY because some of these (especially the DF2) are a ripe for modding and bending :) Pictures and more details up at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm - Ibanez SF10 - Swell Flanger $85 - - Rare "10" series unit with a unique eveleope like control setting. Can be very sweet and stringlike as well a= s doing standard and solid flange duty - Original Ross Distortion - $100 - not a reissue (guessing form the late 70s-80s?). Blackface with cream colored (looks like glow-in-the-dark) face. Pic doesn't do it justice, very cool classic. - Boss DF-2 Distortion Feedback - $85 - One of the weird ones Boss got right in the 80s. Useful solid distortion with the option to stomp and hold to sustain feedback tone and play over it. Very cool and in good shape - 1970s Univox Uniwah - $75 (Lower price!) - Classic! I can't find a mode= l # on this so I'm not sure if it's the UW1 or UW2. It has the footswitch button on the right hands side under the pedal rocker if that helps. it looks like this one: http://www.bostonguitar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Co= de=3DBGWI&Product_Code=3DVE-MISC-UNIVOX-UNIWAH&Category_Code=3DVE-MISC - Mint in box Boss AW2 auto wah - $55 . Flexible and useful at a bargain price. Like new! I think prices are fair but will listen to serious offers especially for more than one pedal. USPS MO or Paypal Personal (or PP with buyer pays fees). Located in Phila Pa and can ship anywhere. Thanks! --=20 --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:47:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52841183496; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299095262; bh=/xx4SYfjlq7XzDqgHQVF4sVG0X5pPJe8OKYZQU/nxqE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=idJvrpILduVm6PTs9Bvi/lidSTGn10qdMRlDdk8rVoj/14x80KeNcgZtkXM5+O4AL47EtrNFi7ihUkC7EhwKdPIa/5GYMBKyf/Gou1ZdyMWkSfCuB2YT0u1sgZHUwD8d/jloiEnnQVe+wvSWUw98OKdPJazE1VFPHg0/Z20iHM0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3IykV8E9minN9LWlPqbcLNaxV/XjLKh+91JNbecvTe9fKS8WZiRw15UTp7AIK69dtzh7zNt+YW4PL10pLC5RC1FB6Pze8yyhi7Jpy7AQE+EKLjhJysmHQMxieQYwkf0/E6Gb3D2YEiD9QgaBRWSc3xclf15wK4Wn88bZgncs2ac=; Message-ID: <747894.98115.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: D7D1Um8VM1nbG3meY5Uh7e2cz8gUlSxf53Eq273zhiYEdNG ZjmcIRKaVPHcxNIiRfW9tU5ejA5ktP8wAO_5Etxdz5aotPZ6GfI0zE9ILlVa 9oNHNSOr8i_m0p.nLO6sfeFCvIAyqWn7wRN5S2thj6yx6NS2ZQpHI5W5PPop xbWhmlQH0Ws66i0_suLZ0t1pcspkXpZViOdPYjcyc1VS7quweQbXHw8ndnQs W3IQjiiYGccPYtY3k2MDfR3IF_OCIBHvHtSpSUD8vCVI8Rf_V4pV2imUngY. .3wOwuU9pFCBDcX4NYtiGwcpFksh8etG3rdlgbUE0e_DVjbGTVw_jrfp1Zg- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E8AE7.4050408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6E8AE7.4050408@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-56511837-1299095262=:98115" Resent-Message-ID: <_tNRMD.A.KN.f7pbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:47:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-56511837-1299095262=:98115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK I ll try not to get burned baby burned:-) Antony ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:22:31 PM Subject: Re: windows on Mac antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition > > from decommissioned machine. > > *please give me some more details so I can find it for sure* search ebay, and check the rating of the seller > * > *If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?* > * only advice is "don't get burned" andy --0-56511837-1299095262=:98115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
OK I ll try not to get burned baby burned:-)

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:22:31 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac



antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>  > If you're in EU, then ebay for legal OEM edition
>  > from decommissioned machine.
>
> *please give me some more details so I can find it for sure*

search ebay,
and check the rating of the seller

> *
> *If I can get WIndows / for free or very cheap, any reason not to get that?*
> *

only advice is
"don't get burned"

andy


--0-56511837-1299095262=:98115-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:48:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5165E1834BB; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kW5sK3w8ICb+H8CZAPwiktLLNi3m84gk0XyYhSyWIAc=; b=I0qvOO1R6YD7Zr7i4U8rTcCoZSv32T1in0CZ5KQf5rFucn18BxrFywaaZmO2qa5PuQ VyFoHRQ5MCXKvoOTQr3sEa/c0sBpHHR53UcjRdrKUaenY+fsB97V4DkBDEcaIEFw0mPH Rxixf3W5/FvFYJiojggjwu9wI8in7dMEib32E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=I18juGjctG5Ks6xf3OCPU1dJJ6gQJpU57H1n6ijwGHlJapBBDbsEjVJa+i0HcT6SUV X0sNFpWX1F5iJKytgbpEW8pjvc7O73z2o+w8R4d48lNjF3D92puV9tHXlAAtSX8tQU8F HshtjT5St3dzRI0lcK2ux0prTJkkPyNsMTfuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: windows on Mac From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Per Boysen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f93254e1ad0049d853105 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:48:12 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f93254e1ad0049d853105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Per Boysen > Fabio, do you too get a the feeling that Bidule runs better under > Windows? I ran the same Bidule setup both under XP and OS X on the > same Macbook and I think so. > > I've not compared them. My Win partition is dedicated to music only, while on the mac side I do all the usual stuff (e.mailing, surfing, photo treatments...). I stayed with my looping/virtual gear under Win till now just 'cos it essentially worked very well. >From 2007 till now I had just 1 crash while gigging, but it was caused by unexpected MIDI messages coming from the FCB. I implemented Bidule and created different layouts, the system was stable, I got in love with some plugins operating just under windows - like "dbGlitch" - and that's why I've never switched my musical work on the Mac side. That's all. But it's interesting what you said: did OS X ask for more CPU than Win ? Do I have to stay where I am ? -f www.eterogeneo.com --bcaec53f93254e1ad0049d853105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>Per Boysen
Fabio, do you too get a the feeling tha= t Bidule runs better under
Windows? I ran the same Bidule setup both und= er XP and OS X on the
same Macbook and I think so.

I've not compared them. My Win partition is dedicated=A0to music o= nly, while on the mac side I do all the usual stuff (e.mailing, surfing, ph= oto treatments...).
I stayed with my looping/virtual gear under Win till now just 'cos= it essentially worked very well.
From 2007 till now I had just 1 crash while gigging, but it was caused= by unexpected MIDI messages coming from the FCB.
I implemented Bidule and created different layouts, the system was=A0s= table, I got in love with some plugins operating just under windows -=A0lik= e "dbGlitch" - and that's why=A0I've never switched my mu= sical work on the Mac side. That's all.
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But it's interesting what you said: did=A0OS X ask for more=A0CPU = than Win ?
Do I have to stay where I am ?
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--bcaec53f93254e1ad0049d853105-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:48:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0F141834C4; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7vEtcGPZ9k/8DYhVX59xd94FbMESy/SzmPB8X5z9ycw=; b=JlhXLCDQBvcYKX2PWlU9fPauhZNBCnElTaQoIRW5jD7b3BzLslY4d3qCXBx94Wx0j7 3K0vQ0jiowv93RjYWH0YdNdVG1EP4FCOtYpXBlQx+wG7JfzBg4J9ayEkhPcjyiGfTvjW QSW2sicJfLT6tTbyLt/c8zA+IzV1H1CpV/zbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WaoFrExXX08n3QgyykF9CKy7r1AIJFAgZBz81h+O+7q6HMFcbT8j6g1XEkBcwqZLyH se6RKpXQeV/pRBuI+pfPFDUzvlIc595QPaJnGdsDSJzuiq0gBAAgDcNQKyt+2WZ4/ynH 4Pw5U0iTjCXGMwBzNM3J4y+NEfTiFuadIpyIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:48:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56cc6426655049d85331a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:48:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56cc6426655049d85331a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I could strip it down just to the simple looper part and give it away as a Max Runtime - which is free to download. I'll have a look at it, but no time today! On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > a stand alone looper then. > > Antony > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Lasse juul Kolding > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 4:19:42 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > > MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what you > can do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extra - > interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with some > kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it! > So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each > other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwise, > I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the whole > thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time! > In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant is > there to post :) > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > >> MFL should be a good way to get something out there, not universal but >> accessible. >> >> A >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Lasse juul Kolding >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Wed, March 2, 2011 3:44:21 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators >> >> Really really cool, Tim!! :) >> Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it's sooo far away! >> >> @Antony... that's an idea. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking >> about getting it and turning a couple of different modules into MFL objects. >> Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the old >> audio looper I once posted here... >> Also, I'm slowly getting into more "real" ie, c++ stuff. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: >> >>> >> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: >>> > Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works >>> >>> Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: >>> >>> http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf >>> >>> ...Tim... >>> >>> >> >> > > --000e0cd56cc6426655049d85331a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe I could strip it down just to the simple looper part and give it away= as a Max Runtime - which is free to download.
I'll have a look at = it, but no time today!


On Wed,= Mar 2, 2011 at 4:38 PM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
a stand alone looper then.
=
Antony

From: Lasse j= uul Kolding <dub= bilan@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 20= 11 4:19:42 PM

Subj= ect: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

MFL looks quite fun, but still limited in many ways compared to what yo= u can do inside Max. The midi looper part is mostly - or at least made extr= a - interesting due to the way it's built into a larger setup dealing with= some kind of live meta-sequencing/looping - have no idea what to call it!<= div> So far I couldn't see any way of getting these modules to talk to each = other within a MFL environment, but maybe I'll find a solution. Otherwi= se, I'm seriously thinking about brushing up on c++ and rewriting the w= hole thing once the prototype is done... this, off course will take time!
In any case, i will definitely post something, when something relevant= is there to post :)



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM, <antonyhequet= @yahoo.com> wrote:
MFL should be a good way to get someth= ing out there, not universal but accessible.

A

From: Lasse j= uul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>
Sent: Wed, March 2, 20= 11 3:44:21 PM
Subject: Re= : Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

Really really cool, Tim!! :)
Always wanted to go to Burning Man, but it= 's sooo far away!

@Antony... that's an ide= a. I don't have Max for Live, but was thinking about getting it and tur= ning a couple of different modules into MFL objects.
Was so easy with Max 4, that you could just export as VST, like the ol= d audio looper I once posted here...
Also, I'm slowly getting= into more "real" ie, c++ stuff.
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On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tim Thompson <me@timth= ompson.com> wrote:
>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper:
> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works
Here's some slides describing its construction and operation:

=A0 =A0 =A0http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_a= t_lovetechsf.pdf

=A0...Tim...






--000e0cd56cc6426655049d85331a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 19:54:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDD761834CF; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299095694; bh=J9xdWiT1U/nEKfKcCqms6t93tkggKjcds2O/UPRS+Rs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WMADe0ApOG4zpvWRQJlCd/sR3qbsBxs0r0mnF8IhsWpsPhgtMUKpTltUEN9LL4iqTLrCeWDp6HpKHXUtwCTkRXQGGg0BK8tiEz9kJ4fgFUtEWcm8i6XYxBlaU9/eIcMxheC9zTP3CiWS/Y9FAfA9ZNiURDOuIOsAafnjqGRCsr8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yb5Am6LbogpIhu20+MnYugmUxDZ9BR+9ZkxMHceKsdtuPaji6cIBIgFYa7A5QfYjT/oPtv8cPWByWZGWv4RtyFic7+nsXsaxkLuItyaOjvwlhxfGfu3p5EHw+DFhJn4iXuJf1pC74tShdOYF9yb/Ym6NnpNfHh/17Hsux7xdaok=; Message-ID: <381344.33813.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0oxXtEgVM1nm2Vx9cBZO05W.XFzBSFxw6EDfnTouJ6mDYFo B7qRtpRXj6E1ucyVQkOaTYWsPfmjdqhs7eN02tBa_YhSPixiOwuEb2XXb.nE aBn63HT9w1x7xYPmiWrPhz1JDIJs_FvHidYVCk303wZGVShGnSNDvCZaEVBh VMcej49zw9Hl6RFmCz6QJsGmPp2YSyicID9cSR2Pv1PIVfbyWiv5qO.Im2dn NZbeDPCIbT9POdLVjGgVPPyJuuNOAttcg_PgonSDEcs4FROQJyYd57spGqKF 6jODxYdKQk9zm59qqqVkrS05dNRzTyNGWw.41bq6NtLao4hBa0wv1uHhaag- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <34EA92A97E7A41469B7047EDF5E78CBE@yourict.net> <706496.89076.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D6E2021.3050704@tiscali.co.uk> <573723.10913.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <577664.94872.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:54:54 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1884485777-1299095694=:33813" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) --0-1884485777-1299095694=:33813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks Per, I will remember that! Antony ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:53:59 PM Subject: Re: windows on Mac On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM, wrote: > OK so SP2 > sounds like a useful choice so far... ...and remember: If it works well with your audio applications do not - repeat DO NOT - take the recent MS online updates! Leave the system as it is and use the lappy as a hardware box. No Internet, no spam protection utilities etc etc. For stuff like that you can re-boot into the less fragile OS X. A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and access it also when booted into the OS X. Per --0-1884485777-1299095694=:33813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thanks Per,

I will remember that!

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 5:53:59 PM
Subject: Re: windows on Mac

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK so SP2
> sounds like a useful choice so far...

...and remember: If it works well with your audio applications do not
- repeat DO NOT - take the recent MS online updates! Leave the system
as it is and use the lappy as a hardware box. No Internet, no spam
protection utilities etc etc. For stuff like that you can re-boot into
the less fragile OS X.

A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the
Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I
think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That
way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and
access it also when booted into the OS X.

Per


--0-1884485777-1299095694=:33813-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 20:52:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8B6C18347F; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_09930c5f-f5b9-441d-94c1-4255e85dd3f4_" X-Originating-IP: [81.110.104.190] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: virtual guitar pedalboard Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:52:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2011 20:52:44.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[C75D0E60:01CBD91B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:52:45 +0000 (UTC) --_09930c5f-f5b9-441d-94c1-4255e85dd3f4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool idea... Now he needs a vertical one to interpret virtual pedal co= ntrol... G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Tue=2C 1 Mar 2011 22:16:01 +0100 > Subject: virtual guitar pedalboard > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/02/14/virtual-guitar-pedalboard-interface/ >=20 = --_09930c5f-f5b9-441d-94c1-4255e85dd3f4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very cool idea... Now he needs a vertical one to interpret virtual pedal co= ntrol...


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= = --_09930c5f-f5b9-441d-94c1-4255e85dd3f4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 21:04:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1ADA18349E; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rLp8hnl/wB3ySxR9euZ2cLOqy8yWrx/U2IDvO2IS5M4=; b=B6cZ1YRvGX/4MFunvxciURBDq+cQlWrYlpcf9I5HiM/Olq1+7QZbnWQ/nxCVm4qTOC YJRObGtXgFKK2SeBsMAR4rqh+NQQDgEzFI+UTAvh4PA2+o8Fu5JMm20U2vdexOpRD1cy +gmsrrrL+CDtX14Ud3tsoCUXGEKIZM0R8YJ08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mMLRlQLSeAhE1hLGP5Yx523wyF9bLcLgxObsoM9DNnYnQLpLAeVFaZeeNNJurfwOvf kP9LyJMIlgROREofwdTxpiVcSq2YjfnRaPRI4++8tuySpubIkWY4F07Va9VMvM2weVKX GbaITWpsoEDVupo1RFXtxjr41KGe/Dsw+aC7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:02:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:04:03 +0000 (UTC) I ordered one after watching several demo videos on youtube. I find myself wishing it had a mode for holding multiple "freezes" so that I could build up "chords" from different sources, then release them together. ...But I'll happily take what it does. I'm thinking of lots of things to do with it - none of them involving guitar just yet. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 21:11:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 127841834AD; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=sVeQghzubEbKmoWgelLQxeNdpuwqMNPXG5PxPEjH9dM=; b=cusJZXqTfNPLSmR46A90VFA0XA/wSmdBYI9c3yvO8UlJqHzbLCprmUQM1tkjoWvXUV 9Pq1c0jpv2Yc9FkcC3nxGM1RV5cq+iiH2NUmamlu7ejP9vgRkZUM+z7x+b32yjjbimPV HAV3Q22haIcAMrBJu3+yLQUauUVlhgopRrF58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OFrEfxY9GQkUOyYI0Z6daNr3WlljXtnV5LtlBGILhYeIa8vp/fU9ss758OxZ+mtj73 aXHVgy60qpBNeC1OkIlKw90yQ3hMWhAGj8J0lFlEXhulrtkOwVtwuZ9MQbTo97Du0S9U 9btDlOZ957F86dUwSQg2dY/NJirOFrWXZS8xE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:11:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CD6oqPIeav-I7Iol-OigTsOFVps Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1d79920c93049d865c63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:11:53 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b1d79920c93049d865c63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the associated buzz, because on the demos Ive seen I cant hear the badabadabada of a loop at all, so it must just be a tiny blip, but then one tends to get that electronic ringing.... (which is obviously cool) but what does this do to avoid that? Please tell me your thoughts when it arrives Matt? Mark On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I ordered one after watching several demo videos on youtube. > > I find myself wishing it had a mode for holding multiple "freezes" so > that I could build up "chords" from different sources, then release > them together. > > ...But I'll happily take what it does. I'm thinking of lots of things > to do with it - none of them involving guitar just yet. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51b1d79920c93049d865c63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the asso= ciated buzz, because on the demos Ive seen I cant hear the badabadabada of = a loop at all, so it must just be a tiny blip, but then one tends to get th= at electronic ringing.... (which is obviously cool) but what does this do t= o avoid that?

Please tell me your thoughts when it arrives Matt?

Mark

<= br>
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Matt Davigno= n <mattdavig= non@gmail.com> wrote:
I ordered one aft= er watching several demo videos on youtube.

I find myself wishing it had a mode for holding multiple "freezes"= ; so
that I could build up "chords" from different sources, then relea= se
them together.

...But I'll happily take what it does. I'm thinking of lots of thin= gs
to do with it - none of them involving guitar just yet.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--bcaec51b1d79920c93049d865c63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 21:23:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57881834BD; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ydRQ8ieL+WqVO4uzZhBBYtu4LqZCiAJBBz2wz0W3tgY=; b=OGzJfOIBIiSI+B1xcTqbU2gNT5sO463oa+dMH4i/AqbICapP4MGZY41NhI1KWiJLkn sqSZtKv7swc8BC/FR9X7l3NMFIn5jvqSsb6IhwFu+zv5FqFG5XVGBm3ZbZmgu6bTqnds Aeg7tE5pQv92c17kfh7y8ezyrt+jXSl4difTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=bROedRtUoj8eNGQP1avbv0NiCPs9MQkp7nDN78mv2BRGmSbj1/i1evgj4Fh+TNvJmy DFo17fh7xgYidg3C7OgDgoaefdSzmuqeHT+P7Rbpl+nGa2xrk53ieF1BvCsmrFlTBO1m APyNeot1Z+NIQGM0c+uZi3kAJ0RlQLimJ3Vkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:23:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bWqk5UDfIJ5Fm99x9EIaIXJkUpM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: daniel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mark francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e399430f049d868418 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:23:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e399430f049d868418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't own one...YET. oh man, i really want one though. played with it for a while at my local guitar shop and ended up giving a few tutorials while i was there. them things is fun! On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the > associated buzz, because on the demos Ive seen I cant hear the badabadabada > of a loop at all, so it must just be a tiny blip, but then one tends to get > that electronic ringing.... (which is obviously cool) but what does this do > to avoid that? > > Please tell me your thoughts when it arrives Matt? > > Mark > > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> I ordered one after watching several demo videos on youtube. >> >> I find myself wishing it had a mode for holding multiple "freezes" so >> that I could build up "chords" from different sources, then release >> them together. >> >> ...But I'll happily take what it does. I'm thinking of lots of things >> to do with it - none of them involving guitar just yet. >> >> -- >> Matt Davignon >> mattdavignon@gmail.com >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --20cf305497e399430f049d868418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't own one...YET. oh man, i really want one though. played with it= for a while at my local guitar shop and ended up giving a few tutorials wh= ile i was there. them things is fun!


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w= rote:
Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the asso= ciated buzz, because on the demos Ive seen I cant hear the badabadabada of = a loop at all, so it must just be a tiny blip, but then one tends to get th= at electronic ringing.... (which is obviously cool) but what does this do t= o avoid that?

Please tell me your thoughts when it arrives Matt?

Mark



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Matt Davignon <m= attdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
I ordered one aft= er watching several demo videos on youtube.

I find myself wishing it had a mode for holding multiple "freezes"= ; so
that I could build up "chords" from different sources, then relea= se
them together.

...But I'll happily take what it does. I'm thinking of lots of thin= gs
to do with it - none of them involving guitar just yet.

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gm= ail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt





--20cf305497e399430f049d868418-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 21:23:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AC931834BB; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cBodbpIzWiEOaExATRPKE5YbuzM8ozft64Fyk1pho6M=; b=S0jE9a4lKN7ID9aVvuSS469K5kSfXI+XSkLT5VcgOtzXsl/AFumnP8ymO2mP+AD0f1 dg3DOIdKsRhUktIMuWVn2IVjM9tyd86Tmz8w4IYT+wZHwQMczqz+pz0OrFNibz7b1ZWX YsV+nDCm0u2rtXokJ1ggNg1sRvKA5E+h4XcLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=O731uA4rHG/riFhbzv855rpRAqftSoLc1DclAkHUD+pfxdcB81boJQ3ForFLkaMamE Vxsr0CxxWy0uPa/BVdxp3Kf9Z6PCW7P/AJobckexumrc457wqSO1lCZJ426JW6DIp2lc Wb1JVywUY7vzAyOL5UHrQvCgDoMJgZcvx3ors= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: danielhlevine@gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:23:34 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1k06gU_L_an-dV5Axmt-PC7Dnho Message-ID: Subject: RC 30 anyone? From: daniel To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d42287e7494049d868612 Resent-Message-ID: <77ZmHB.A.l7C.WVrbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:23:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf301d42287e7494049d868612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone mess around with the RC 30 yet? --20cf301d42287e7494049d868612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anyone mess around with the RC 30 yet?
--20cf301d42287e7494049d868612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 22:47:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4EF1183479; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0hjOIwraQnE/07cqA5oixLUBQ3WekTqC6CBIRujoxXM=; b=U08su73cLuCXMMmQ4X6lZAy2eCuYDvHBCBHDgHyh0L6GXrg8AbUahE5NYjhdJB2F+R rLEyIpDkGSux9vImirwmCi/GohLhEEFPtSAdJy556j1k7o5V7E3JeeU7VZlWlPbTLpI0 COD0UvrHjebNmGxID/zillnLoSFXwzvLy4TDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Mqh30tPKi7ZLnxqIFpIt2gu5bB/7SNtQLASy2jJZjVyNnrtEXJNGbonyvmnE3U5Dj/ +hYDLHCY0IUZ4lvmNjs5C/8kOcV4w7tJXiabuKy/cR+XUfT8zWiKYjBEy6EPs3KfN7lB O5q01SqFe8d9BHEw4pfDgXKECqwJ2ikQQdv+o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:47:19 +0000 (UTC) That's an incredibly useful effect! I've been doing it in software for a couple of years pre looper. Sometimes I do more freezing than looping. I use both an expression pedal and a stomp switch (like this box has) as my playing interface. The expression pedal kind of covers the "fast" and "slow" modes. I tried but did not succeed building also a "latch mode" by using envelop follow processing on the input. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 22:50:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80955183487; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=oB7gRQtSBLnyhbsK+v9JhtA2G1G7mlBkNWD7YWadDz4=; b=TGL6ioB1wWjt0TsoJhskakqdAxfrKhAaq6J3VFogjdUSqZmFwLk7nic0XrSCGpYUrn NdegRVCLYRscTyPNEhSG9Pl7y7HfozJg2ifQZapxpfLiUtnfND4MZIqNXQOsMiqOz8N6 I54qccFNGRRmDK1iIZw2QxjeGd7QlRHgCrIKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=K3NvLXyOhG7OnVWG1d0zxZUnpnIy50eKi2nXTBhm2KJ7PXm+MBOi0PU1+rMpuwsKzj qRxvSAUlknQ/bnMgS2xhaiJ/ZmOBZIaSvGwNOVzdfxWOQERAXOZPnOhAyr9pzRT+mtTz 5qrUgLqJurajFM+uOCR91TBtT4Ro+AEjXszF0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Myke Atkinson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 15:50:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D51BF70-B9B9-4611-A388-554CF7F40023@gmail.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Cool stuff Michael! Is there going to be any way to have a new track asynchronous to the = master loop? Also, something to consider: the ability to change which track is the = master loop, allowing for continuous performance. -Myke On 2011-03-02, at 12:39 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > Me again! Finally, I've put together something resembling a demo: = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNaFI7wzvrog >=20 > I haven't shown everything yet (one big feature that I'll do another = demo with soon is merging by dragging from one track to another), but it = gives an idea of what I'm up to. >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > The next thing I'm trying to decide is quantized events: >=20 > - One-finger tap in the middle of a track punches in straight away > - If you do a 2-finger tap *after* a 1-finger tap (that is, 2-finger = tap while recording), anywhere on screen, it schedules a quantized = punch-out, based on 1 cycle of the master clock length. > - A 2-finger tap gesture from a non-recording state begins a quantized = punch in, followed by a quantized punch out. > - A menu item (access menu by holding track) lets you set the = auto-punch duration, from 1x the master loop, to multiples of that, or = fractions of that (as in, 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, etc, in one direction, and = 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, 1/6, etc. in the other direction). >=20 > I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts on it. >=20 > Also, I'd love any feedback on those thoughts about editing the master = track duration: The master track length is set by the first loop, and = is displayed visually along the bar at the bottom, like ruler tick = marks. Pinch to adjust the length - that is, multiply it out, or divide = it up. Or drag a track to the bar at the bottom to have the master = clock sync to that track. >=20 > Cheers =3D) > Michael >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 23:03:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89D2C183479; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6ECCD1.6010001@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:03:45 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Thompson CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <36sU0B.A.DlF.XzsbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:03:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Tim Thompson wrote: >>> ... a dust-covered two-person five-track MIDI looper: >> Would you be into describing how you built it and how it works > Here's some slides describing its construction and operation: > > http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf > > ...Tim... Wow, this was so, well, monolithic. Really impressive. Nice work. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 23:17:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E1B183487; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6ECFE7.9030003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:16:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:17:00 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the > Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I > think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That > way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and > access it also when booted into the OS X. It is my understanding that if you do this, Per, that you can only transfer 4 gigs of material from side to side at any time which can greatly limit audio/visual storage so, though it is a bit more conventient, I was advised to eschew its use and use NTSF instead. Do you have more detailed and accurate information about this and/or do you have some opinions about this statement. I just took it on face value when I clean installed my systems, but now that I have to clean install my 3rd system (2nd failed harddrive....thanks, Apple) It would be great to get your advise. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 23:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A1DE183498; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:18:16 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Moser CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being > announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO > BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. Ahhhh, I just love Apple (this post drips with sarcasm for the literalists in the crowd) rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 23:22:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C5818349F; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6ED126.9040503@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:22:14 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgio Robino CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:22:20 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Giorgio Robino wrote: > BTW, There is a Windows wave editor that can really help on producing > seamless loops ? > I mean something like the no-more-available > http://www.sonicspot.com/zero-xseamlesslooper/zero-xseamlesslooper.html ? Here is a simple editing work around for creating seamless loops in any audio editor. Audacity is free on Windows but very clumsy. I love Sony Sound Forge. It's very intuitive to use and powerful. Explode your view to the sample level (so that you can see every single sample at the beginning of the .wav file. Grab the first 5-10 samples and execute the command to FADE IN Go to the end of the sample and do the exact opposite: Grap the last 5-10 samples and FADE OUT. That should eliminate your loop 'clicks' rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 2 23:43:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851F2183465; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rI779fjPzYfRUBevcWx4BXpQ5OuHclclgI9NNyDO4g4=; b=JnQf+GysWUZ4GjWnBO0hjic6F4g1wAAMrg0Fraxjc8heywwtBbjP5uoimls4HBVBE8 wBK5gIdd7AyaDyoV0KbEBwSW54wF8ziCklgFqZH+Hv3qttYCQdf8s9vNoFGIdXhOJy6E OR5qGsra+HxbzVFIC4hSj+Xt10IgTukRQbK7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AEwBxGl7h6udcs06lgPyRlHKqIFC3v2zo+hwFXwUVBXfSLr2b7TuRoR7Xp67Cx2H3C dIqOijzWG2lQEYy+Zt3EvyHSqBoZPinqqf4O5w9bOl5h/eaDVtlXa5+5MjzAINEM+Q5o 99qh5q+JbYy4QF6kro9FA1gAvYucaFRygYPS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> References: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 00:26:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:43:06 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> >> And for those of you considering a brand-new Macbook (as being >> announced this week), BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO >> BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. > > Ahhhh, =C2=A0I just love Apple > (this post drips with sarcasm for the literalists in the crowd) > I suggested XP only because the man said he wants to run very old software. In any other case W7 is of course better. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 00:16:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A494A183486; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 00:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: LP2 OR RANG 3 Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:16:49 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33298-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA74F6C43F268-B78-4977F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 00:16:57 +0000 (UTC) sorry this isn't about macs or pcs.....STANO, you will tell me when you=20 switch over to computers for your playing (then i will join the crowd).....a few of you know my=20 level of incompetence when it comes to COMPLEX THINGS, computers, tying shoes etc.....i have a few xrta $ and not want but=20 NEED another looper.....my #1 son stole my rang after i got my M13 and i want something to replace it, i only have the=20 looper in the M13 to work with at present..... signal chain as of today: guitar with 2 lines out > M13.....FX SEND=20 M13 > alesis air fx > alesis ineko > alesis bitrman > off to srm 450s.....i know we had this discussion already and i have=20 read all the posts but i was wondering if as of today, does anyone have any new oppinions or other=20 suggestions?.....i am also going to get the expression pedal (s) for the M13.....young bill showed me the beauty of=20 this!.....THANK YOU BILL, you are a sweet lad!..... i thnak you for your cornsideration!.....this just popped into my=20 noggin, are there any smallish loopers with FX sends? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 01:05:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DBB2183479; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/lJs0o7NRRQqGEA6Iu5V8FeV0AQbMmyzovdA8nkookU=; b=vL8vBkwsf7SMr9mbive+O6CtdtwKeFAT8DwZzr3LAoep2xJC0dqVrkQ0PhmiUOWfJ9 UKejW2XQSClLIBH8hLwCOd84Ey6Jv5vnDcA8YGZvvZgMCUm5H4PHE6QV0CJ5vgPQTGrx wvdGWb/aErTDkY14amMXwxky59eG3w3sjZmQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HG94K5LqWqIJx+86V97S8Afg2DT/nNzONFJvenyigMf6qgnWGQ0ScxsaOilvsrTjBq Ew1mYa9Kd8Mk6i6lPirEadEwmTvP367GM2UJXPFwAxlGkWH71K4WU5EXzYzoVKEi8ZMb MWyjQ0tO8bwRCGu+nAYx+x+w1bdswOf4SmQHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 02:05:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi, All pre-orders of the limited edition deluxe CD of =93The Sense of Time=94 will ship on March 5, 2011. This is a professionally manufactured 6 page digisleeve with CD (no CD-R) with an 8-page booklet. The free worldwide shipping period will be extended for a while so if you want to order a copy, do it now, you save 3 EUR. For more informtion, please check the website. Thanks! PS There are still a few tickets for the Loopfest of this weekend.... As last year, there will a lot of people, I think even more, with a lot of loopers talk in the corridors and backstage ;-) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 03:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B574C183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 03:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ERYB4MF3exFE2sGcBVgCOx+Miw1sv5idX85Eo3mR9Ik=; b=GtB7mQt2XrNpqk5HsvqeSuB0rI/UCPA5thCzxgQhWny6zjoHPLHVcXVYQgz4Zp1kXn LEMcDxoq8WOR7ugwKJnrUXuHSYqzY95h2wRcXn37b++pwTxbSVmDHXQAqixwYHhR/Oqn pVFsWggmNnQR5tlvN1iHFfOkfV4IZ0rPGZ9Bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NEoEZKSaIc4Sjqdx0dMZZizvAZjO9SB+U6NxHn/CKukw4dJIRyhAjuBhl3Ha29swL9 NrX5JEeo004hbPUBsN4+V1ehLVdoQ2KFNzhesVTyNZ0n+MiWaRUS8U7UEpxC37SIjKQo Hmy5edgrOcfKdhRHSWs8Y98vRNvO6VWxNE3d0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 20:15:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 03:15:03 +0000 (UTC) It occurs to me that you could use Simeon's method (rate-shifting tracks with the same content), but using a stack of 4ths or 5ths to get the same thing I'm talking about, or just use use pairs of 4ths or 5ths). Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it with a very simple rhythm. The time values would be inversely related to the pitch shift multiplier (presumably the 12th root of 2^n where n is the number of semitones). Hell, why not treat time the same way we do pitch. Heh, and I get mixed up in 5/4 ;) k From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 05:46:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92A03183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299131203; bh=tGg+pnZ0RCuBrNq1phzCQzZfH+bTdOYYQ1DtjdVxvtQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oYAl8R15ogHWMOPOJt5DcbzlUI+Ml2TKpDhZExK7hYxxUnWR3aw3qn48YBNwCrz8rqbWz1UMQqKl+yKAiENAQS2PRXC9p1Wma5VzmaOCb4glQ8k1iRhLluAauVXR7mQSxrm8dMNnErN/R2XnNqi70ju8cn/g8Mir2UsSsQPJN9s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BtuN2BEN2P4Pj98mozK81+EyoKXqRZRMH6Wp7rp5L9f2WP9CjSlWVdV6Xhi/92RohfucNDDGbCUmJRXe05iy6V+JiF7KMUAzHOV/cMH9kPu8p1RMbo8bqx9sUcQZrXqAQ2xw1PGwHWg8wxu4GuU6C6Mw7C+U/UegwSZoIvwHUQ8=; Message-ID: <678996.95162.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yUwpMzwVM1mrimGO_HCI5.MOw2mxOr3MZCI9gq8mG72kBNJ xTeapLqvzc1DPGahZrkWTAvkHaHwQ6uIA.DTYSGo_98Iv2zNDxv1XbQsg0VD lCk.D.dv8P5.k7XjA4yTG3AowlpTRcLVfZibYGlZ60TqEbHgiMIyJh2dhBFm Y_c0VHAgjG3gtDUl3FYuxXPGcKfVNc1PPg00y0uOoMc9iluiOfWMLUeaug0M DIM_Rvwls.xD9mWK9dMQtHtbx7GIEr6uKq_s3Fo6.1uKVIc7tDVjAlsAArTq Xy12dxUfp6yOxEn.iZUbxMup56XcSOCoBoc0uMtC2_VCAVFYLhdON5Hx7gA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6ECFE7.9030003@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 21:46:43 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6ECFE7.9030003@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1479164783-1299131203=:95162" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:46:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-1479164783-1299131203=:95162 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I read up on it when I did my firts attempt at bootcamp Windows XP. When you do the bootcamp install routine you are offered the possibility of formating your partition as FAT32, this insures you can use that partition oth form Windows XP and Mac OS X. THis option is not available with Windows 7 or other Windows versiosn such as VIsta. You must stick to Windows XP. This metes you swap audio files without hassle. That's all I know about it. Per is the expert and has the experience, i just applied what he told me and read in the documentation for Bootcamp. Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: Per Boysen Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:16:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the > Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I > think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That > way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and > access it also when booted into the OS X. It is my understanding that if you do this, Per, that you can only transfer 4 gigs of material from side to side at any time which can greatly limit audio/visual storage so, though it is a bit more conventient, I was advised to eschew its use and use NTSF instead. Do you have more detailed and accurate information about this and/or do you have some opinions about this statement. I just took it on face value when I clean installed my systems, but now that I have to clean install my 3rd system (2nd failed harddrive....thanks, Apple) It would be great to get your advise. rick walker --0-1479164783-1299131203=:95162 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I read up on it when I did my firts attempt at bootcamp Windows XP. When you do the bootcamp install routine you are offered the possibility of  formating your partition as FAT32, this insures you can use that partition oth form Windows XP and Mac OS X. THis option is not available with Windows 7 or other Windows versiosn such as VIsta. You must stick to Windows XP. This metes you swap audio files without hassle. That's all I know about it. Per is the expert and has the experience, i just applied what he told me and read in the documentation for Bootcamp.

Antony Hequet

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:16:55 AM
Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
> A good idea, when using XP under Bootcamp on a Mac, is to format the
> Windows partition in a format that is readable from the Mac side. I
> think this format is called FAT, FAT32 or something like that. That
> way you may always record a live stereo file as you are playing and
> access it also when booted into the OS X.
It is my understanding that if you do this, Per, that you can only transfer 4 gigs of material
from side to side at any time which can greatly limit audio/visual storage
so, though it is a bit more conventient, I was advised to eschew its use and use NTSF instead.

Do you have more detailed and accurate information about this
and/or do you have some opinions about this statement.  I just took it on face value when
I clean installed my systems, but now that I have to clean install my 3rd system (2nd failed
harddrive....thanks, Apple) It would be great to get your advise.

rick walker


--0-1479164783-1299131203=:95162-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 06:27:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D701183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299133647; bh=V4sUOQzGfiX3NIyKzehfdNzXKkwwU9eaQ10m41dlCcY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NMtaU7GY/6kyJxj7LK6ahKxnZeKfrAtGKCWFSMkReWqudGc57ZnvHkl9vtzsl0k1HaFygVu6Co89n31lBZ1zyNYlvTnuac4RCJaQYmQjRWNyGfy2uxfKnDsNjghXq16n1q+yhkYMSxhJcdrvJ4cGKcPH3XPjUZpCgfgKN0wT33w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zda5VBX8NThLnnLi5hMRXyyl6kjJXMFrnhvBGDymykgBHSIEAQv8S+4Xv9O2UAga21go7cUZ7LwEWJLuB4U0DIJbPGB0bHrfFZl1HYUxTc5s+zpz0+JGpGwiZP5AjGkE00sRxG7TEAxrlwDDcPTnLSjgNd90E47GzZ+c/6SiHkU=; Message-ID: <665971.19672.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JmMxt7wVM1no6Eb6Om6keucy.NtSYwzGwtKIHP8vFVisOvY T.8J4ekkleIf.M89qmxlSoUvr23mQbyqlLW96FlSW59bT7pnvfPMyyOd59s9 fiJWx5Kask9N6Jwqm3r_.uscawD83R7cRBgso1nuEqQDdp4.qSpflpDOPfgP opFNQnnwh1IxSMKIBIP1CdFKhcn7AUyaWAlTXW1vkEsO0cZ3LGhX1TE12CwP JABXHJFJoOhtWnFasKFQk4ixW7QJcqqBDdf6vJ.z8j9K4QZP4C7lIJT1RJZ. dMfFK5Ns7oTe4s3Krei6oTTGmJYD55L0fN7R41V01oPjvgoBXga8mEBYhvc7 2p9Qp X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <20110302150015.B2ADA183485@arsenic.violacea.com> <737003.37831.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:27:27 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack: is someone considering it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <737003.37831.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1298607238-1299133647=:19672" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:27:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1298607238-1299133647=:19672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anders, > > >from what I understand of what you wrote below, MIDI is not part of the deal >right now. I am not sure what you are saying about it not being a looper. Can >you make loops at all? Can you make loops in a limited fashion? > >>Antony I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loopers... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audio... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including a "though" machine which can be youre live signal with or without effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff.. With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking right now. The effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a mixer. Live guitar and trough machine on one input, you EDP or other looper on one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them.. When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sound good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift at diffrent sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody, or a shot loop and pitch it reversem stutter, apply effects.. once you undetstand that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant do on loopers that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas and built intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device with unique sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT with midi and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the Beta OS it can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i have two short clips on soundcloud.. just experiments one guitar looping sort of thing and one where i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a live band sample... http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=anders+bergdahl --0-1298607238-1299133647=:19672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Anders,

from what I understand of what you wrote below, MIDI is not part of the deal right now. I am not sure what you are saying about it not being a looper. Can you make loops at all? Can you make loops in a limited fashion?

Antony

I have an Octatrack since a few weeks but have not had time to REALLY learn it. As it stands now it is not a looper as we usuallly define loopers... however you can sample loop and mangle up to 16 seconds of input audio... You can sort of overdup bu sampling main output including a "though" machine which can be youre live signal with or without effects, trigless trigs and other nice stuff..
With this version of OS (99e) sampling is a bit akward and you can't do it via midi foot switch so as the only looper it's sort of lacking right now. The effects are GREAT, and it also sort of works as a mixer. Live guitar and trough machine on one input, you EDP or other looper on one input and 6 tracks to sample the inputs and mangle them..
When you have sampled soemthing almost ANY input can be turned in to rhythmic patterns and its very easy to manipulte sounds live and still sound good. Trigless trigs are a lote of fun, you can pitch shift at diffrent sequencer steps and take a long tone and turn it into a melody, or a shot loop and pitch it reversem stutter, apply effects.. once you undetstand that it is NOT a EDP there are a lot of stuff you cant do on loopers that the Octa can do. It's man power is as alive remix toll and rhytmcreator.. it is no problem staring with zero samplas and built intresting peice live. It's more a live recordign device with unique sound sculpturing capabilities than a looper right now... BUT with midi and a loop machine toghter with what it already does with the Beta OS it can be a really, really intresting new kind of tool.... i have two short clips on soundcloud.. just experiments one guitar looping sort of thing and one where i live sampled Splattercell and mangler it lika one could mangle a live band sample...
http://soundcloud.com/search?q%5Bfulltext%5D=anders+bergdahl










--0-1298607238-1299133647=:19672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 06:56:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D57E183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 06:56:31 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 00:56:09 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: "The Trip" Video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <3AxMND.A.EUG.fuzbNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted another video on You Tube -- an excerpt from one of my favorite shows of 2010 "The Trip" is an excerpt from an improvised performance featuring my video improvisations, and Forbes Graham, trumpet, Eric Crawley, Harpejji and electronics, Teresa Czepiel Movement, and Eric Sack -- Camera. "The Trip" combines improvised video and sound, movement, camera work and video feedback into an intense melange that stays close to (but always on the right side) of the thin line between the psychedelic and the incoherent. "The Trip" was recorded live at Outpost 186, Cambridge MA, on May 16, 2010. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_onjpVmgnQ BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 07:27:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 480C8183464; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:27:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:27:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the > associated buzz, because on the demos Ive seen I cant hear the > badabadabada of a loop at all, so it must just be a tiny blip, but > then one tends to get that electronic ringing.... (which is obviously > cool) but what does this do to avoid that? Not sure how it works, but it's really amazing. Chris was able to bring one out for me to try out this past week so I had a couple of hours with it. it has three modes short, long and latch in short and long, the button is a momentary switch and will only hold a note as long as you hold the button down. short makes the 'droned' note come on very quickly and go away instantaneously when you let off long let's the 'droned' note have a slightly slower Attack and then you can set a nicely musical release when you let off..........this release continues even when you are starting to 'drone' another part of whatever you are playing. You can preset short and long mode attack and release rates when the pedal is powered down but not during the middle of a performance. the latch mode is very hip.........everytime you hit a note it drones the note so you never hit the switch and then have to hit it again to make it stop in order to continue on with your droning fun. I was able to do very hip solos, freezing notes again. If you suddenly stop playing and hit the button again, it actually loops the 'silence' and if you listen carefully, the unit is making a loop of the noise. I'm with Matt though, as soon as I can afford one, I'm going to be using it with all kinds of noise sources and probably not so much guitar. I was able to make some very hip 'drones' by using a Floyd Rose tremelo on my fretless Strat go all the way down to complete d-tune..........very hip noise drone from that technique. This is a very cool and musical tool, imho. I'm trying to sell some gear to buy one as we speak. Anyone want to buy a Gibson EDP fully tricked out with a footpedal? A vintage (and expensive first generation Red Whammy pedal)? A vintage and expensive Roland TR808? A vintage first ever Roland Guitar Synth (minus the proprietary cable and the synth) quite hip because it has an octaphonic pickup on it that could be converted for some cool stuff. I'll let this one go pretty cheap (with the cable it'd be a grand) lol........they are for sale, theyr'e just pricey. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 07:34:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E465D183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6F4489.4010703@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:34:33 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nemoguitt@aol.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 References: <8CDA74F6C43F268-B78-4977F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDA74F6C43F268-B78-4977F@webmail-d101.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > sorry this isn't about macs or pcs.....STANO, you will tell me when > you switch over to computers for > > your playing (then i will join the crowd).....a few of you know my > level of incompetence when it comes to COMPLEX THINGS, > > computers, tying shoes etc.....i have a few xrta $ and not want but > NEED another looper.....my #1 son stole my rang > > after i got my M13 and i want something to replace it, i only have the > looper in the M13 to work with at present..... > > signal chain as of today: guitar with 2 lines out > M13.....FX SEND > M13 > alesis air fx > alesis ineko > alesis bitrman > > > off to srm 450s.....i know we had this discussion already and i have > read all the posts but i was wondering if > > as of today, does anyone have any new oppinions or other > suggestions?.....i am also going to get the expression > > pedal (s) for the M13.....young bill showed me the beauty of > this!.....THANK YOU BILL, you are a sweet lad!..... > > i thnak you for your cornsideration!.....this just popped into my > noggin, are there any smallish loopers with FX sends? I don't know the Rang 3 at all, Michael, but my cursory understanding is that they are just incredibly different beasts. The LP2 has lots of slicing and dicing effects (and some very cool 1/2 and 1/4 speed options that are very fun); it has the ability to store up to 8 loops and load them from an SD card; it has 30 levels of undo and it has feedback control with an extra expression pedal......it also has midi in/out for syncing to other midi devices It also is a mono unit. Doesn't the Rang have multiple and simultaneous loops? Isn't it true stereo? Does it have any midi? Does it store loops? My impression is that the LP2 is better for mangling and also synchronizing and the Rang might be better if a singer songwriter wanted to have one looper. The LP2 for me is a perfect augmentation if you already have another looper, especially if it has midi. Any RANG 3 users out there yet? Can you help us out with it's capabilities? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 07:42:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FADD183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6F4647.3010804@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:41:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Walker CC: Dennis Moser , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: windows on Mac References: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D6ED038.7010408@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 07:42:05 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: BE ADVISED THAT WINDOWS XP IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SUPPORTED UNDER BOOTCAMP. > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Ahhhh, I just love Apple > (this post drips with sarcasm for the literalists in the crowd) Hi everybody, Please forgive me, that post was unnecessarily bitchy and I'm sorry I wrote it in such a reactive space. I truly do understand, though am obviously a bit bitter, that I got a lemon when I bought my MPB and that it truly, seems to have been an anecdotal experience. I know so many people who's opinion's I respect that really, the new MBPs think are going to be the best of all possible worlds. I just had one shot, financially, of getting a computer this expensive and it turned out to be a collosal dud, but I've met people doing pro audio with the identical machine that I purchased who have not had a single problem. I apologize for being bitter in this public forum. My advise is to respect the advise of the leading experts on both Windows and Mac on this list...........they would never steer you wrong. yours, very respectfully, rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 09:10:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DADA183466; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4LV7SjKYGPfoI7tplBQ3J8SpPraZ5vHKib1x7QSOkYA=; b=xnUWYq5GYt2yEdHj9UWPMd1BU5DFkZrbXBvXuvmWudiAIHCeSkAdL4tIGDHjvu/UGW 90U0/WhopVPzw7bk3+LWN7u/4m5pEYmpm2ppQ5lO0RHAsoLauVne2CBVQnnMpWUhF8zC cfG38ZMN0FxOFiO6lrxyfIRuXi1HawcvJF87o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xpwXfv0QpMVsngRb9KlIkKKn6U8TSR1gPLzcp0P2EwCNKOnj5bMBblCDcj7MVUF/YB PuhPTQX4bH+DjPon84PkzaMBYmFQWsylCAMMLC8h7pWw63oD7V+FX5kjrDFJ1sZIq+kh XqyRdfJMgJt5TEz7+M1SWyzzTis1lnb8CJsvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <678996.95162.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6ECFE7.9030003@cruzio.com> <678996.95162.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: windows on Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:10:07 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:46 AM, wrote: > I read up on it when I did my firts attempt at bootcamp Windows XP. When = you > do the bootcamp install routine you are offered the possibility of > =C2=A0formating your partition as FAT32, this insures you can use that pa= rtition > oth form Windows XP and Mac OS X. THis option is not available with Windo= ws > 7 or other Windows versiosn such as VIsta. Thank you, Antony. That's essential information. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 09:30:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044EF183466; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W//Yss2GnpCkMIQM5l6IMVVsrTx1pMnFCj8mU7FJugs=; b=BxnjG8iyo4p/8zf/Zb9Cb7cIDJTFjmOGxssHApuq1G68e4a6AFpzxeoDIPqoz1Fu51 ZxyLoy5vN70RugVB9P2xq1dxhoShawxzf8Ir1E7iVkgyDdUTxS/n+/ibe09QvAgyQ1WC 0VYbqGXDyEgep9hLT9y06X6Z1vStXG3RmBawQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XtmXuiAWuOV2k8euBgw4OPE0T6vwkSeV0Ab8xLkTJFByvWSkRefcS7z44NPu93n9Sx Jw0nJEL9HB7Z2TQQwy/+IfaHOxVMrQqEcMc3JaF8NFpI6iQYwfzSw4GVm6expxfPVtdo C5o0K1fLTIJhQOVsuNs/Uf/SvOUYBXAHQRMUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:30:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4c76400f564049d90aec4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:30:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4c76400f564049d90aec4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lol! i'm gonna try that! On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > > Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it with a very simple > rhythm. > --000e0cd4c76400f564049d90aec4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! i'm gonna try that!

On Thu, Mar = 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it with a very simple
rhythm.
--000e0cd4c76400f564049d90aec4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 09:40:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1353183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lrpHGUHpNa8T69aj/vU0xb7vMLTGITpdCnyQTAy+3+Y=; b=O0sqrTSUyJQNYY8BBvbuSQO9uXm3zBlV28r4xr+mY3Phlum/CcFPVyWApz0Kx2Jtws 1gdLEkJ20MOjgZ5zj9Isr9mZK1mAVTYSw9074CK6nUn2SPTLx4nYqCR1OKeDgxvQNLqG uVRdUi/4dyyrSfxfhh0bgXNPF6gRWPWLYy+v4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=StPSneiiXc6EBZHzTNnlLWuy/Bycr3Hqh/RxDDhzWVJp87hxLV1COs+V3pfioD7zsq 5DOMgzKGPyrUUmMJ+3yYIKUHMe6m1/U5zhUO3a4beyr7HRP6os/jbx7xgSClo5DKXfmo a2PWNbRkEaKIfeDBFBD5sVKzpfxpxQBNtgYBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:40:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:40:07 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the >> associated buzz, Granular processing? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 09:51:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF58C183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ggZ47UJk20S8FTDOnvkQRF9cc2rzDdAocwEGGppK0vA=; b=pc6XG5y+Xk+wmQWm/ARozcfac3ASxc/fynCVXt3QgAtGTqHwIDOaM0Y8X/8GGX8eN+ 6HKsGUxoroaRJ2idjWpPtDkVjYxNi+y/reSjTUEPtIe9C3CWKmgzS5ou41fnjrIZguwH 1L5uQvmKjssC+QwIy12Z16SfWw6I0ox0B6nTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fnp8cuw5OHc7T5EgPNp5ueF4UnixEa+IQYl3mLCwGXZB9dI3KwrQx8aDHzy93eTExU 1bk0uRGQnK/ERvpaC2xj3YUKsxZPnFvyvDPvq7/MRO0EpuvTMwgu3WRggTDQyFa5VVTx 3dP12ObQjhoX7iaTvqbLckE7PhVmxYorCLm1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:50:39 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ws01CGJxCdfy4UBgHt1tLGJNu3E Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f7872bc7f049d90f7ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:51:00 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f7872bc7f049d90f7ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the other quite quickly.. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> > >> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the > >> associated buzz, > > Granular processing? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8f7872bc7f049d90f7ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" = of this effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback = 100, and an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one = to the other quite quickly..

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without= the
>> associated buzz,

Granular processing?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8f7872bc7f049d90f7ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:03:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B774183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=laLYWqdH9Z9WAlGSnz0gEMIFGA7YJ72CVDBTarttzOo=; b=V5Wr0pGj1pI4N0m/0pyW9C4zDOjrzDI7GSOaBbzu8i9YyDbOrtimAqCUT/M8Hx0O0T Lmx8njjNSyfc/mJTd06ZmDFLdS3B3ashb6Cu3ZlDigsenI8JE11kpa0lq4/APTSI9vHW jqbhfU2lAAXlvxdegtBHILdbMJ8MJMzTRcNmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wl83bnqWoWPENbT0GbCaY/CBwK6LnJAMqGRthzGx3szgN6c1tXjmKHiMeXKKP7TBiH NU3rDz8PnXM/O+oULdveBWyD0W+OLcaCMqh4J0EE/qZ2XDbj3wEhlmHCCjuUhOEv6X4A ODwvk8HqmLACKJVYG3GPFGf42sXkq93urod6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:03:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:03:36 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this > effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and > an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the > other quite quickly.. Great! Do you think that it works well thanks to some special "loop point cross fading" function in the Vortex? My trick is based on a tape delay setting typically used for creating reverb. Then the freeze stomp button, or expression pedal for "slow/long mode", works the feedback, level and wet/dry parameters. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:29:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6583183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AJY7M75W8t9PcV64NrwT5aMeoX14ztLazUJ5oqTYsFk=; b=lmzTGt+ILQDmD3Obdf2rsFqvVHJrPhe3FPwLXg6wn1AReLKAT9YTFz2EoVIVDnL748 HC360RG7It1F2cwVdHHvli47rt29Jck7AFu9NZMgK6ILopquI6+wkswF7tjn1c2USIQu 4xm9F4LKTzWXtrsZ2UHGgLvi/rbqfCtNPxYok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rbo8xOdSXPoD9WDGSA2H2QMBkGA4mtTvXUAVepo/TbeMaUOQniGx8Czy64JTFS8BSE RM37NZBIl/rDMtovq3FhzIRNVxHOi6OiiXLXFaSRLmU2udCRWReMm078jMB4oOE4wjdY AG+2eX99v7RA/7Hg6GUYgF++Yjde8mYnXdPis= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:28:40 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a1qRupJN84wG_5g8v0ahTOUJ-RU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f78d86d72049d917fbb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:29:08 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f78d86d72049d917fbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: Great! Do you think that it works well thanks to some special "loop point cross fading" function in the Vortex? Im not sure, but I have to admit I was using maybe longer loops than the Freeze appears to do, there was a slight takatakatakataka going on, but no electronic buzz, so maybe. But I think its more to do with the fact that when you switch from one patch to the other in Vortex, you are not just changing patches but morphing them. A longer morph time didnt work as the second patch did not have any audio in it, as the morph occured if also tried to fade the delay buffer to 0 , resulting in a quiet loop. but an instantaneous morph, seemed to do the trick, presumably there is some part of the morph algorithm still inplay, even if the morph time is 0.. Well thats my clever sounding guess... Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8f78d86d72049d917fbb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:Great! Do you think that it works well thanks to some special "loop<= br> point cross fading" function in the Vortex?

Im not sure, but I = have to admit I was using maybe longer loops than the Freeze appears to do,= there was a slight takatakatakataka going on, but no electronic buzz, so m= aybe. But I think its more to do with the fact that when you switch from on= e patch to the other in Vortex, you are not just changing patches but morph= ing them. A longer morph time didnt work as the second patch did not have a= ny audio in it, as the morph occured if also tried to fade the delay buffer= to 0 , resulting in a quiet loop. but an instantaneous morph, seemed to do= the trick, presumably there is some part of the morph algorithm still inpl= ay, even if the morph time is 0..

Well thats my clever sounding guess...

Mark



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--90e6ba6e8f78d86d72049d917fbb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:34:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5535F183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JV4qKwscgp+diHl7ES+0iAcnDaTFTmFBoFbQw9DW8oA=; b=hrEiNZRzFYjO2TzwFMwzRGhJISGFZc/COunw2kED47QyYR1ZA+addgBqDhPUfq9QtR QVVjmSJf6QcUzRrENQCx3Cfi2T7SBcMvpH/CSyBJ0lKyVhy8n4ocZ6EdgneHQl9alm0u SVSGmQdZ2vt5SJ1X0+7nwU2OfFHjpiPFFyRKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ksoj+DYuZpy8V2MJayYR393TzQdwcxctcG+OV8CuKDrSZ1F2NbprNgQSNOhq8CR1AA tYsyluuC8MGU+/UDz1w8iOUQrXOO7sof9GeYahx1AaQfRJJUGoByBQhFcW02XulPMR6z ek78Cwmga0w+CLvkXRg3Ev2j2qtyPUcIT/Dko= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:34:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Morphing - that's the shit! On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Great! Do you think that it works well thanks to some special "loop > point cross fading" function in the Vortex? > > Im not sure, but I have to admit I was using maybe longer loops than the > Freeze appears to do, there was a slight takatakatakataka going on, but no > electronic buzz, so maybe. But I think its more to do with the fact that > when you switch from one patch to the other in Vortex, you are not just > changing patches but morphing them. A longer morph time didnt work as the > second patch did not have any audio in it, as the morph occured if also > tried to fade the delay buffer to 0 , resulting in a quiet loop. but an > instantaneous morph, seemed to do the trick, presumably there is some part > of the morph algorithm still inplay, even if the morph time is 0.. > > Well thats my clever sounding guess... > > Mark > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:45:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1012D183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578703147/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnsCAL//bk1YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFHNa4VhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="578703147" Message-ID: <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:45:55 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <16gFo.A.67C.fF3bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Here's my attempt at similar http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3 thing I like about the Vortex is that after working out a patch for a specific purpose there's usually other sounds that can be had by 'mis-using ' it. the same patch abused:- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex5.mp3 Anyone remember the days when we used to crave for the mythical "8 second Vortex"? That whole morphing thing is still very much unexplored, the Vortex only has 2 delay units of 1s which can morph from into a single 2s. andy mark francombe wrote: > Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this > effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, > and an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to > the other quite quickly.. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:55:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE32183462; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ebLoBSaKEHdjqULsjciFoiRZMKT7mw5ncoXBu4pmogA=; b=Gw9U8cInVwoLtnVy80U50cOaM///C44h8zCnMGR7211EmT1IYCzVG7hMc+NHgKaD8Q jdApvGSaTUCB9ze3ZMV2nyysP1uvp1wcBgg9iWeo1A9Tk1qWCTlHQHBjUbxRDFPYCM1B K0nL3N1b039j7VK2MM8HsmbJxLFISJf0iRoL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tWUmT9bp79CFH4JWGWvhuG1Ojd5jCrKe1wfzbL5LbdC+IFRjOELaidV67Tye3+WJQS tEcy+im2kxMvJwb1wmBvxL8Ha7KGBQyZBmp9iYE6pvHlZlsxIsz2Zdk8BRhmsO9N98Ib Im3ddz2t/0QNgJhw8fKLL6YIKhD/gn9qI4DRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:55:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:55:32 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, andy butler wrote: > Here's my attempt at similar > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3 > That's a good sounding freeze! Here's how my software version sounds: http://soundcloud.com/pboy/going-fishing-20101205-1553 Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:56:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B946183478; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JAqmQnj09gdyNoMAZlnI4J8f3So0YNpJQzBSt1VuKAc=; b=wXriOi72n3Rn5FOTQUMtUOMyPGe9rBWSqW3gtFhxc8GxEAen/Gu+bJvkYDI27vPJY0 AaczaKtSvLW9M/uPeUi1mEfNT0GKHw3qHPYRpTNgOvJo+XgPEPK8uHYTVJROqHWwjLDE P9OBiy1iBv0b7oqn4SExwCclnkCt+J6maoEmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=AD+teCtFjM1hoyQB5KvkSGGpiSo2wCoXVeE7BQlVvEhoZ6TFDcyEgCpsBgTrkGLKWb rLeOQTtipUa4aLNEqrSo31Yh0xFqqxhCXQeIUX/FaZSDUQomYxMb8kNsJVAK+uFVxHD7 QM554ZOXf1dHkGoUK/GNZGusDpynbHnnJ5s6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6aeb4fd35a9049d91e0d3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6aeb4fd35a9049d91e0d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nice! there was much discussion on the axefx forum when this pedal came out about whether the axefx could do something similar. it was easy to do actually, but using very long delays and reverb to create the freeze texture and tying feedback + input to a pedal. http://soundcloud.com/fractalaudio/freeze sim On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:45 AM, andy butler wrote: > Here's my attempt at similar > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3 > > thing I like about the Vortex is that after working out > a patch for a specific purpose there's usually other > sounds that can be had by 'mis-using ' it. > > the same patch abused:- > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex5.mp3 > > Anyone remember the days when we used to crave for the mythical "8 second > Vortex"? > > That whole morphing thing is still very much unexplored, > the Vortex only has 2 delay units of 1s which can morph > from into a single 2s. > > andy > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this >> effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and >> an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the >> other quite quickly.. >> >> > --000e0cd6aeb4fd35a9049d91e0d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice!

there was much discussion on the axefx forum when this pedal c= ame out about whether the axefx could do something similar. it was easy to = do actually, but using very long delays and reverb to create the freeze tex= ture and tying feedback + input to a pedal.

http://soundcloud= .com/fractalaudio/freeze

sim

O= n Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
Here's my att= empt at similar

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3
thing I like about the Vortex is that after working out
a patch for a specific purpose there's usually other
sounds that can be had by 'mis-using ' it.

the same patch abused:-

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex5.mp3
Anyone remember the days when we used to crave for the mythical "8 sec= ond Vortex"?

That whole morphing thing is still very much unexplored,
the Vortex only has 2 delay units of 1s which can morph
from into a single 2s.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" = of this effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback = 100, and an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one = to the other quite quickly..



--000e0cd6aeb4fd35a9049d91e0d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 10:56:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE73B183484; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: <1D51BF70-B9B9-4611-A388-554CF7F40023@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:31 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8E3E97C9-1ACA-4701-ACC3-54B888C261E6@atastypixel.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> <1D51BF70-B9B9-4611-A388-554CF7F40023@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Cheers Myke! I'm not planning non-synced tracks, no, as it's a bit too niche. That = said, Loopy can have any master loop length, so if you begin with a = really short one, then tracks recorded later will appear to not be in = sync with each other, as they're quantised to multiples of a very very = short master loop, which is equivalent to no sync at all, if the master = loop's short enough. So, yes, it can be done - just record a super-short first loop (as in, = double-tap on the track button), then it'll sound like there's no sync = after. And yep, I'm planning master loop changing: >> The master track length is set by the first loop, and is displayed = visually along the bar at the bottom, like ruler tick marks. Pinch to = adjust the length - that is, multiply it out, or divide it up. Or drag = a track to the bar at the bottom to have the master clock sync to that = track. On 2 Mar 2011, at 22:50, Myke Atkinson wrote: > Cool stuff Michael! >=20 > Is there going to be any way to have a new track asynchronous to the = master loop? >=20 > Also, something to consider: the ability to change which track is the = master loop, allowing for continuous performance. >=20 > -Myke From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 11:00:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45142183486; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587490458/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjECALsDb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMhB6UM7x3kQGBJ4NEdgSPYg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587490458" Message-ID: <4D6F74C7.8050402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:00:23 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Morphing - that's the shit! > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Im not sure, but I have to admit I was using maybe longer loops than the >> Freeze appears to do, there was a slight takatakatakataka going on I think the EH unit avoids takatakaing by getting the crossfade just right. i've seen a demo when "glitchy sounds" are produced by string scraping, and then it does taka away as expected, so the delay's quite long. It's also possible that the EH unit adjusts the delay time so that there's no unevenness due to phase. >> instantaneous morph, seemed to do the trick, presumably there is some part >> of the morph algorithm still inplay, even if the morph time is 0.. yup, there's still a crossfade andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 11:06:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7852118349A; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PqOyyzpF7oMNvlXDrddoTctLLE7oQ3xtk57zcg+iams=; b=AGDXjWuuZsVbRW6xtfRkgzqSezEWqYDeCzi1AzEifE1jcnXiLwFjOenvv5uxgqZxXC GoaiDmU9umgCqiFLjJoA0f877Z+X8hmU16Wyk+TPr+DsVzFZgQl5Yev9FFfEaO+lpj2M bm/ngqQjUTuHtmhdqcIYNtjkJ3FndCDa3v/n8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=wzylgU+LtpJX2+ubB0CnGSSZnm6bf88KXnEX/zF60hI2tPvALJd6F32CuVVwV0OTjl 7ml4++L9PlGVTAHEr2XMbfiGcYctaKNPHKsNcU2FvSx/KxUd1kEDdakpqCmEPAHrFHtj HhHk266WbBNu12IlpfVGwTDk10MdP01c00bdY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:05:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _YQFBubPLnU_lek7-7UdYxz_vY0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363c8fbc2f98049d9204b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:06:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30363c8fbc2f98049d9204b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Typical Fucking Boysen, put as all top shame.. Wonderful Per, I couldn't really even hear the freeze, till I realised that this was Chapman Stick, and not "Floaty Ambient Pad Number 256"... @ Andy, back to Vortex.. have you managed to get good setting using that other patch.. is it 9 A?? Cant remember the name.. (12 oclock ) I always wanted an auto-freeze that just took the last sound you played and froze it. unfortunately the shorter you make the loop, the quieter it becomes... becasue hweveer fast you take your finger of the guitar and silence the audio, it will grab that bit, where its going quiet, not a moment before... On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > Here's my attempt at similar > > > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3 > > > > That's a good sounding freeze! > > Here's how my software version sounds: > http://soundcloud.com/pboy/going-fishing-20101205-1553 > > Per > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf30363c8fbc2f98049d9204b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Typical Fucking Boysen, put as all top shame..

Wonderful Per, I coul= dn't really even hear the freeze, till I realised that this was Chapman= Stick, and not "Floaty Ambient Pad Number 256"...


@ Andy, back to Vortex.. have you managed to get good setting using that ot= her patch.. is it 9 A?? Cant remember the name.. (12 oclock ) I always want= ed an auto-freeze that just took the last sound you played and froze it. un= fortunately the shorter you make the loop, the quieter it becomes... becasu= e hweveer fast you take your finger of the guitar and silence the audio, it= will grab that bit, where its going quiet, not a moment before...


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Here's my attempt at similar
>
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andybutler/vortex/vortex4.mp3
>

That's a good sounding freeze!

Here's how my software version sounds:
http://soundcloud.com/pboy/going-fishing-20101205-1553

Per




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--20cf30363c8fbc2f98049d9204b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 11:13:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86AE2183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9dAx0QxqZD2BYv2bxKGR56mA7Qwg3xIcWJsME6dZxI8=; b=MuRk8HPvg2dpT/bSdcGp/HB9MHynGPq+fSGxBZslIBZ4utczf6eayWJKjCQNGpc7kH 6Q6yiLqmu7dv+QAI9pO+B4/l2/Nx3shRvSaoRw5t5sNYAJ6vdZjbL1ZbDxIqgFGV2QYF 6NBqTDYmyeFlznXEU5gG0SI1xAp+TFXL5e/U8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TBy6IrULm/Cw7vJVdP5qUw4EGUMzbwbdAzzFV22CnUTL8wwNw+reFNKofSpZimZe98 JlP7qkYrwdK0sveZERQgF24cTXnHu/CuygrvQg6tk6lB+7oG/kEmNxNwLYlNxfpTt577 lwVWnf5GgbjSswR9SszFTAfGLVoVHCOEMp+yY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 12:13:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:13:18 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, mark francombe wrote: > couldn't really even hear the freeze WOT! It's THE CHORDS, man! Tapping a chord and then freezing it to sound one, two or four bars (while moving the chord hand somewhere else, to match whatever the other melody hand is up to). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 11:40:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88431183464; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587452776/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACAKIMb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFHOFIVhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587452776" Message-ID: <4D6F7E42.7010508@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:40:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6F7163.9060406@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:40:44 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > @ Andy, back to Vortex.. have you managed to get good setting using that > other patch.. is it 9 A?? Cant remember the name.. (12 oclock ) Curse you Francombe I should be working. >From what I remember the problem is that we really want a 2 stage operation, ramp the feedback (and input vol) up, and after that ramp the input vol down. ...but there's only one morph, so as feedback goes up the input volume has to go down. ...and it's all complicated by the fact that the Vortex has 2 types of delay. 1) where the input vol is automatically reduced has fbk increases, which is mostly the parallel 1s delays 2) where th input vol isn't affected when fbk increases, usually the (series) 2s delays One way to get a smoother freeze is to use different delay times on parallel delays, and maybe different delays between the two sides of the morph. I think I may have ended up using the pedal for a smoother effect on the morph. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 14:07:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCEFE183463; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hx4WfdoQB+B9U/ujCnjKXs5qgulcXZ4hucjQSnCr5Us=; b=Gnfo2l+WrES/ZAJosfrgp+nwrWDUn2HAXepI295jQwD8v6mTY0MpjUMTz6Dg5g/W+r DMuKgEQQFgbQcEtSp67Dp9sCX3FSPBepdnrKI+VY5rTxDAEDYniteS+Fs0ZAyKA4zSg0 4WjZSJuNC3FBDglkFH1nyYjBJGRUQnoIhHmAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EXD32u2Mu8vSKqag0/I19tnJCSZK/7Mcg1lik4TYx77ERgFmQff5jiHYyy1jz8zY23 PlPCb1fLu3ijpQ15+BUljl3zWyD2hS+WO+XAYhqJ47dOzO+W76pNO1aYtFbVmeSywt9d BILKUUo5FkICGhuHgnSPYDUSpifJYkSEjhX/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f326c9922a5049d948a42 Resent-Message-ID: <3nmrHB.A.-4G.1C6bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:07:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f326c9922a5049d948a42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Could you post the detailed settings for that Mark? Jeff On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:50 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this > effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and > an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the > other quite quickly.. > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> >> >> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the >> >> associated buzz, >> >> Granular processing? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --20cf307f326c9922a5049d948a42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you post the detailed settings for that Mark?

Jeff

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:50 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfranco= mbe.com> wrote:
Further to this i= dea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this effect in= the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and an alter= native B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the other quit= e quickly..

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without= the
>> associated buzz,

Granular processing?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--20cf307f326c9922a5049d948a42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 14:24:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81846183464; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=OaUhYjGRgOz940jw3tbAOY3drYUg0t0ZRWL/a5l+FxQ=; b=vNmAIhGkkbBPRCyJggUE5yh9dBZ/cmsRXOJurDcoocKKVGDG1f0j8QTsfgiKzErvSa 0U3IM74k6QfFSRfFkr9Ewj5O1N4naDFGaXLHJ6u9Abs91MSykUV7mYH80PI2Bz1wQbdr uirNwXNJ3xO73pyEeBeXf3hMtOse5o1THpzuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=CqnLoB0fT2eVDJIonFPY8vTLbL76+nT+jQsIs//4jmn30kXHwRznOQCxv9IcPTYtOP VjZH8JitvYIpDfeuodjMvRZqXvXPlei5t+l2aPE2ryJG+d+r1hFNNubBV31zritcOOHP IfeDinI7ibe0mTywz9XZEjNopeUvMUsaB4NaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Giorgio Robino Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:23:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2df78f9d765049d94c7da Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:24:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2df78f9d765049d94c7da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 a) about loop track saving / reuse: Thanks Jeff for your very accurate and clear explanation! Possibly I was not too clear in my explanation; In facts my process was this one: 1) I perform an overdubbed "perfect" loop (using ambiloop) 2) I save this track as the file loop.wav 3) I run an audio editor (using audition) and I INSERT JUXTAPOSING many instances (COPIES) of this loop.wav chunk: my aim now is to play for example 10 contingous clicles of loop.wav .. HERE I realize clicks... ( ! ) mmhh....now come in my mind the possible problem: phearps is the audio editor that do not perfectly juxtapose contigous audio chunks .. ?! .... (I used here a functionality called "multiply" that I believed was working doing perfect jusxatposition (at "sample level") but pheraps this was not true: I have to re-test... Anyway thanks again for your clear analysis, that is helping in understand the point! b) about seamless loop editing: Thanks Rick, yes I'm aware of the little fade-in - fade-out method to avoid clicks. sorry, again I was not too clear in my inbitial post: I refer to an editor helping in realization of "perfect loops" I mean something like the old beautiful "infinity" on Mac ... Au revoir giorgio 2011/3/2 Jeff Larson > > > Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularlabs.com ) > > save .wav without start-end clicks / artifacts ? > > I think I know what your problem is. It isn't really an "artifact", > the loop is being saved exactly the way it was recorded. The problem > is that in a looper, loops normally play from beginning to end and > then repeat. If you overdub and you let the overdub carry over the > loop boundary, then the audio will not be faded to zero at the > begininning and end of the loop. When the looper plays this audio > continuously, you don't notice this, it sounds like seamless audio > without clicks. But if you save this loop to a file and play the loop > in an application that is not a looper, there will be a click at the > beginning and end of the audio. > > This is difficult to talk about without pictures. > > Layer 1: rrrrrrrr > Layer 2: ----oooo > Layer 3: oo------ > > The letter 'r' means the loop was being recorded for the first time, > '-' means the loop was playing, and 'o' means overdubing. > > The result will look like this: > > oo--oooo > > In order for the overdub to sound seamless it is important that the > looper *not* fade the starting and ending edges of this loop to zero. > When the loop is allowed to play forever, you want it to sound like > this: > > oo--oooooo--oooooo--oooo > > If you fade the edges of the loop to zero... > > _o--ooo_ > > Here '_' means silence. The faded loop will sound like this when it > plays: > > _o--ooo__o--ooo__o--ooo_ > > You normally do not want this in a looper, the faded edges will be > audible as a "fade bump" that you will hear every time the loop > repeats. > > If you save an unfaded loop to a file then bring it into an audio > application that is not a looper, the start and end of the wave form > will have sharp edges that will sound like clicks if you play the wave > form without looping it. If you need to do this then you need to edit > the wave file and fade the edges, this is sometimes called "top and > tail" fading. > > So to answer your question, Mobius will save loops WITHOUT > top and tail fading so that you can load them back into Mobius > and have them play seamlessly. If you want to save Mobius loops > and use them in a different audio application, you will need > to edit them and fade the edges. Most pro audio editors > provided an easy way to do this. > > Jeff > > -- "Siamo polvere di stelle, siamo oro, e dobbiamo far ritorno al giardino" (Joni Mitchell) Giorgio Robino http://solyaris.altervista.org --000e0cd2df78f9d765049d94c7da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
a) about loop track saving / reuse:

Thanks Jeff for your very ac= curate and clear explanation!

Possibly I was not too clear in my exp= lanation; In facts my process was this one:

1) I perform an overdubb= ed "perfect" loop (using ambiloop)
2) I save this track as the file loop.wav
3) I run an audio editor (usin= g audition) and I INSERT JUXTAPOSING many instances (COPIES) of this loop.w= av chunk: my aim now is to play for example 10 contingous clicles of loop.w= av ..

HERE I realize clicks... ( ! ) mmhh....now come in my mind the possible= problem: phearps is the audio editor that do not perfectly juxtapose conti= gous audio chunks .. ?! .... (I used here a functionality called "mult= iply" that I believed was working doing perfect jusxatposition (at &qu= ot;sample level")=C2=A0 but pheraps this was not true: I have to re-te= st...

Anyway thanks again for your clear analysis, that is helping in underst= and the point!


b) about seamless loop editing:
Thanks Rick, yes I'm aware o= f the little fade-in - fade-out method to avoid clicks.
sorry, again I w= as not too clear in my inbitial post: I refer to an editor helping in reali= zation of "perfect loops"
I mean something like the old beautiful "infinity" on Mac ...
=
Au revoir
giorgio

2011/3/2 Jeff La= rson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>

> Indeed, does the alternative sw Mobius ( http://www.circularla= bs.com )=C2=A0
> save .wav without start-end clicks / arti= facts ?=C2=A0

I think I know what your problem is. =C2=A0It isn't really a= n "artifact",
the loop is being saved exactly the way i= t was recorded. =C2=A0The problem
is that in a looper, loops norm= ally play from beginning to end and
then repeat. =C2=A0If you overdub and you let the overdub carry over t= he
loop boundary, then the audio will not be faded to zero at the=
begininning and end of the loop. =C2=A0When the looper plays thi= s audio
continuously, you don't notice this, it sounds like seamless audio=
without clicks. =C2=A0But if you save this loop to a file and pl= ay the loop
in an application that is not a looper, there will be= a click at the
beginning and end of the audio.

This is diffi= cult to talk about without pictures.

Layer 1: rrrr= rrrr
Layer 2: ----oooo
Layer 3: oo------

The letter 'r' means the loop was being recorded for= the first time,
'-' means the loop was playing, and '= ;o' means overdubing.

The result will look lik= e this:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0oo--oooo

In= order for the overdub to sound seamless it is important that the
looper *not* fade the starting and ending edges of this loop to zero.
When the loop is allowed to play forever, you want it to sound like
this:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0oo--oooooo--oooooo--= oooo

If you fade the edges of the loop to zero...<= /div>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0_o--ooo_

Here '_' means silence. =C2=A0The faded loop will sound like thi= s when it
plays:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0_o--ooo__o--ooo__o-= -ooo_

You normally do not want this in a looper, t= he faded edges will be
audible as a "fade bump" that yo= u will hear every time the loop
repeats.

If you save an unfaded loop to a fil= e then bring it into an audio
application that is not a looper, t= he start and end of the wave form
will have sharp edges that will= sound like clicks if you play the wave
form without looping it. =C2=A0If you need to do this then you need to= edit
the wave file and fade the edges, this is sometimes called = "top and
tail" fading.

So to a= nswer your question, Mobius will save loops WITHOUT
top and tail fading so that you can load them back into Mobius
and have them play seamlessly. =C2=A0If you want to save Mobius loops
and use them in a different audio application, you will need
<= div> to edit them and fade the edges. =C2=A0Most pro audio editors
pro= vided an easy way to do this.

<= div>Jeff




--
"Siamo polv= ere di stelle, siamo oro, e dobbiamo far ritorno al giardino" (Joni Mi= tchell)
Giorgio Robino http://solyaris.altervista.org
--000e0cd2df78f9d765049d94c7da-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 14:31:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A6EA183475; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Y0qRpbwOd1ZTt6eBbuWFClndtf9mCpMau+VYrSRDWev08gnxzFKYy+ICLKVIVRhI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:22:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c23dcb0606822360d8b61a550d084ceb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:31:07 +0000 (UTC) I love how "granular" processing has become such a catch-all in the electronic music community.. ;-) The "freeze" pedal uses hi coefficient allpass filters, it's similar to a digital reverb set to an infinite decay time. > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >>> >>> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the >>> associated buzz, > >Granular processing? > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com >www.looproom.com internet music hub -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 14:41:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0B6F183477; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Slycho4KXLHssS+IST6uJNP/ANBYDLlh9KdRQpOddY=; b=FIqpbFuDf4ErVAaRpDA0fF9Pf7KlLRvq9UPsHaSeSBSQmhPL0MrbWvfNnNz2QxqcI4 Hl2CPzTxRwdGzLIpKIZfYEHpPXqPrcrAMCsurzeo/zzqhOqhvYwZ42EZCw8HG2uJuJiP guqkSQQGJA7rq0AUPOJllMd/CdvyLa6NCD8GY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LLR+PbZvezc8NSUA6n6m8dy+srHyB0TcMEIhWjJqBgGTGwC8N0nCzT5ysEZtuqLJLL hNFeWVYJzbTLvxAQMYC+K253N64U4TNR0iATXLYT9QRQEzz6ZWdsHorep/TqPWkrmVnZ KwvUfjFs3d76DNwbs0BzN1nWGNT7ATSMt3O2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:41:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:41:22 +0000 (UTC) I've seen this thread flashing by and would like to just chime in a short comment, without having read many earlier posts in the discussion. The thing is that the subject line is not very clear to me. While Ambiloop is ambient looper, Mobius is an all round looper. So they are kind of "apples and oranges" in the regard of comparing how well they create seamless loops. For Ambiloop the creation of seamless loops is its very purpose, at least from what I remember of the release long ago. But with Mobius you have to use looping techniques that create seamless loops. The main technique is to go out of Record or Multiply Mode by Overdub and play/provide source audio matching a "soft closing" of the loop point. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 15:15:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 617ED183477; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/kKULnP8VF8eeHoWCI7Ksz5hlKwXlF6vskDrgVnYlBE=; b=gt3iUjZQh9kraxGX3+T1cwgM4VKPDgcoyHZWpRe636bEfa5U+C2myYSqM3/kSCLxBZ WcCFLSocmhCNT9vVmg3BOR8FERPRyGK6npxvMyoZIQbW+3iYtDikLtmy5NmpgUyLTIvX vdzdZUUxwq2kl4MW2iXP3WZAh/w5T8v6ZAXXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SD2rrqS7p3pbljq7vdcH3Oh36mWEtEZuVCIVa3C0mMHeYcAhv/YhBfd2OKLBGeZoCw BSYRQAuyl0J3txHgFU5ZofiAK5rZUI2u/c8YLr+IpHwH90KcAb2epJisopdPjnGNhC4I n6DmHQJSZ4yykMfAv0a+R76lhde6hTrCMBcJA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:15:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) From: Marco Ronci To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300258885c5fac049d957f8c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf300258885c5fac049d957f8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ciao Giorgio, 2011/3/3 Giorgio Robino > > 1) I perform an overdubbed "perfect" loop (using ambiloop) > 2) I save this track as the file loop.wav > 3) I run an audio editor (using audition) and I INSERT JUXTAPOSING many > instances (COPIES) of this loop.wav chunk: my aim now is to play for example > 10 contingous clicles of loop.wav .. > are the clicks you get coincident with every loop end/start? maybe you simply need to crossfade the various repetitions. Ciao Marco --20cf300258885c5fac049d957f8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciao Giorgio,


2011/3/3 Giorgio Robino= <giorgio.= robino@gmail.com>

1) I perform an overdubbed "perfect" loop (using ambiloop) 2) I save this track as the file loop.wav
3) I run an audio editor (usin= g audition) and I INSERT JUXTAPOSING many instances (COPIES) of this loop.w= av chunk: my aim now is to play for example 10 contingous clicles of loop.w= av ..

are the clicks you get coincident with every loop end= /start?
maybe you simply need to crossfade the various repetitions.
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Ciao

Marco


--20cf300258885c5fac049d957f8c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 15:23:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB35C18347A; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <494C131D-F88D-434D-9408-304C84960897@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:22:42 -0500 Thread-Topic: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Thread-Index: AcvZttt8R8hkxQtcSYC2VIq82U8AUA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2011 15:23:27.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2039F30:01CBD9B6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:23:29 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:31 AM, "Charles Zwicky" wrote:= > how "granular" processing has become such a catch-all in Somebody called my fiddle playing granular one time but I think he meant it s= ounded like a box of rocks!! Hey who knows if the LG pedals will send a midi start command by its own sel= f? Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 15:27:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47DFB18347E; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583943684/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACAE9Cb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFHOHoVhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583943684" Message-ID: <4D6FB375.3040702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 15:27:49 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <494C131D-F88D-434D-9408-304C84960897@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <494C131D-F88D-434D-9408-304C84960897@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > Hey who knows if the LG pedals will send a midi start command by its own self? yup From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 15:33:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F215718347C; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HXPJNi5w7FMMi3KfU/yt5DUgUdXMzF9eTQf8olFkasY=; b=DEFMkCc3cZj+Mii+Drdc821FANp+PhbuYwkEbon3YaWBG5r6t/ddcp78gP9aMCGdED BZB+5MOC5H1FtxdUmCVbq6OY1NcUvf1EzGUr+xLcURQboOtq4TIjsiXNiareqg68pL+u pgndrRCTbpxHI2arENH5OmRjQ+pCwg/tLBKpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OWJ5bfQC+ppoIdOAG6dqZiVns6sVXfoveuVnFonR1VVbO4baQlQnyjuMH5GJ1prbIN h+dc48J1gin5O+1Kez4gMfo5jRWuMgmUbeoE3YRfrud0JJScV482fQMsKnP0bAaMlgNo 0AEa6ouUNz7kBj+lbquN4/ss7nKe+5xajUEqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:33:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:33:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > The "freeze" pedal uses hi coefficient allpass filters, it's similar to a > digital reverb set to an infinite decay time. INteresting to know. Thanks, Charles! Then it's not that far from my custom software solution of tweaking a tape delay reverb simulation :-) When guessing on granular synthesis being used in the stomp box I based that on experience with software like Metasynth, Riverrun and Alchemy. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 16:22:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C7918347E; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:22:44 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 10:14:16 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Correction "The Trip" Video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <9rv0C.A.bLC.UB8bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Wrong link last time -- the right one is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRuFGotfKi8 I've posted another video on You Tube -- an excerpt from one of my favorite shows of 2010 "The Trip" is an excerpt from an improvised performance featuring my video improvisations, and Forbes Graham, trumpet, Eric Crawley, Harpejji and electronics, Teresa Czepiel Movement, and Eric Sack -- Camera. "The Trip" combines improvised video and sound, movement, camera work and video feedback into an intense melange that stays close to (but always on the right side) of the thin line between the psychedelic and the incoherent. "The Trip" was recorded live at Outpost 186, Cambridge MA, on May 16, 2010. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 16:36:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D013E183482; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=B2vF4T/Gc87vP77cPtjaBflVNVr4vCcfgk4jUUM/EeA=; b=UuSoDOH1ZRpPynRroyefVCS0I4m5NNd3IC1mwtoscYi67uGXEjhhofvOodLVKE4Ie3 q6ZVzViCSk/2ZmhxSgJh4vMgMUc8CIw+CxnJzgkQsh0kj6tsZeDgzKP0m4C17B9npYmS AbiHnuASemPnyPI7CVkGEI4AP1D0smFY+jrOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Q+PhyQPikaEzeb6O5ziLu20yUNsyOD2JBX1vrrc21dLqNRReXDLCdhFO3BR7Me4B9R ZqMcgqTC5OZsrbADh2JczlIW3UQm3rz4GsJ7KxCCUMpuXoGpMjRUGs1bgXIfJVnc6+q2 HyAdlJp2UcHnr63jibklmG5pG7/u8pWFRmGm8= References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:36:03 +0100 Message-ID: <-7890509984860652642@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e860a1ae947049d96a336 Resent-Message-ID: <0BI-GB.A.LhC.nO8bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:36:55 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e860a1ae947049d96a336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Later Jeff, tonight its the gym, followed by Yoga, i will post when i am muscularly at one with my chi. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 3 Mar 2011, at 15:07, Jeff Duke wrote: Could you post the detailed settings for that Mark? Jeff On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:50 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Further to this idea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this > effect in the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and > an alternative B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the > other quite quickly.. > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> >> >> >> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without the >> >> associated buzz, >> >> Granular processing? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --90e6ba6e860a1ae947049d96a336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Later Jeff, tonight its the gym, follo= wed by Yoga, i will post when i am muscularly at one with my chi.



Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 3 Mar 2011, at 15:07, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

Could you post the detailed settings for that Mark?
<= br> Jeff

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:50 AM, mark= francombe <= mark@markfrancombe.com>= ; wrote:
Further to this i= dea I suceeded last night in making a "version" of this effect in= the vortex. using a very short delay speed with feedback 100, and an alter= native B patch with NO morph speed, I could jump from one to the other quit= e quickly..

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>> Im interested in knowing how it achieves such a short loop without= the
>> associated buzz,

Granular processing?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/us= er825094
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--90e6ba6e860a1ae947049d96a336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 16:44:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EB7A183482; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583983631/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACAONTb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFDATY1GhWEEj2I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583983631" Message-ID: <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:44:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <26fDB.A.VzC.CW8bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > I love how "granular" processing has become such a catch-all in the > electronic music community.. ;-) > > The "freeze" pedal uses hi coefficient allpass filters, it's similar to > a digital reverb set to an infinite decay time. I've not heard the term "hi coefficient" used in filter dsp before. As a reverb is a network of delays with feedback I don't disagree with your analysis of course. Except that the sound isn't reverb-like. There's clearly a repetition every 180mS here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFth1mg5Rc from 2:48 but then there's longer cycles audible too. ...but there's no glissandi within the freeze ...however, unlike a reverbed glissando there's still clearly defined constant frequencies need to hear it without Youtube sound compression, but I'm still puzzled andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 16:48:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B0DF183485; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587652752/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACAJdUb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFDOFYVhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,258,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587652752" Message-ID: <4D6FC674.7030100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:48:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: seamless loops & windows tools (ambiloop vs Mobius) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Marco Ronci wrote: > are the clicks you get coincident with every loop end/start? > maybe you simply need to crossfade the various repetitions. If the looping has sample accurate timing there'll be no clicks, ...unless the audio editor tries to introduce a crossfade, then that will *cause* a click. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 16:53:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30A60183488; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=P/KyMAaXLeQhZBQkRdcQFaUMlESxFmFBqNF0Ia4ZxqdXV8dWUuV16HQNBBg5XUIZ; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:53:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b32716eed768fce65abaf9481dca7657350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Andy, A reverb is not simply a "network of delays", in fact most digital reverbs consist of a loop of allpass filters* set to various delay lengths with a variety of injection points and output taps. * An allpass filter is defined as a feedforward delay combined with a feedback delay, it is at the heart of every digital reverb and the result of increasing the coefficient is greater diffusion. -Chuck >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>I love how "granular" processing has become such a catch-all in the >>electronic music community.. ;-) >> >>The "freeze" pedal uses hi coefficient allpass filters, it's >>similar to a digital reverb set to an infinite decay time. > >I've not heard the term "hi coefficient" used in filter dsp before. > >As a reverb is a network of delays with feedback I don't >disagree with your analysis of course. >Except that the sound isn't reverb-like. > > >There's clearly a repetition every 180mS here > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFth1mg5Rc > >from 2:48 > >but then there's longer cycles audible too. > >...but there's no glissandi within the freeze >...however, unlike a reverbed glissando there's > still clearly defined constant frequencies > >need to hear it without Youtube sound compression, >but I'm still puzzled > >andy -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 17:29:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E8D183488; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1CNs7YBA2iyfcdvgeLyDaHRL0Hn8oPtRQ0WN2wNjJno= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CT6ZY_snK46uknyDzTIA:9 a=zF-ExhODtjzS5qjgE4cA:7 a=6H_i5Vz5vGReK_oXoaSOUK6RF3IA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:19:21 -0800 Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: LP2 OR RANG 3 Thread-Index: AcvZxyJ0YNchVkW6EeCuLgAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <4D6F4489.4010703@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Relatively new Rang 3 user here. I concur with Rick. Although I haven't touched an LP2, the rang is perfect for arrangements, songwriting and sequential loop playing, long ambient/rubato passages, in/out fades, stopping/starting all loops, etc. Slicing and dicing is NOT going to be in the general bag of tricks. It's an independent beast as well, since it does not support midi for control or sync. My first serious looper was an original 8 second, then 32, Lexi Jam Man, and I didn't ever use midi sync or control...just those funky plastic Lexi pedals it came with. The Rang 'FEELS', in playing it, like an uber cool original Jamman, with an incredible feature set. Sound quality seems excellent and transparent. Current signal flow: Guitar or Bass EB volume pedal Line 6 M9 Tech 21 Blonde preamp (for guit) Tech 21 Bass Driver (for bass) Moogerfooger Midi Murf This mono signal goes into Rang L Korg ES-1 sampling groovebox goes into Rang R If I'm running into a mono, then there's just a left out and L/R get summed to L Currently recording direct, I'm running both L and R rang outs to separate channels on my mixer. So guit/bass and drumbeats go on separate tracks. The ES1 is more being used as a sampler trigger for single drum hits/loops into the Rang for looping. It's not currently 'playing' in sync, and probably won't be...although I'm wanting to catch a loop on the Rang, then tap tempo the ES1 into relatively close sync, start play on a blank beat pattern, so it will then send clock to the new Murf I just got. Then the Murf will get in relatively close tempo with the loop, for cool animated bleeps and bloops with the rang loop. Still have to rig that up... For me, exiting the honeymoon stage, I'm enjoying the heck out of the Rang. Regards, Rich On 3/2/11 11:34 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> sorry this isn't about macs or pcs.....STANO, you will tell me when >> you switch over to computers for >> >> your playing (then i will join the crowd).....a few of you know my >> level of incompetence when it comes to COMPLEX THINGS, >> >> computers, tying shoes etc.....i have a few xrta $ and not want but >> NEED another looper.....my #1 son stole my rang >> >> after i got my M13 and i want something to replace it, i only have the >> looper in the M13 to work with at present..... >> >> signal chain as of today: guitar with 2 lines out > M13.....FX SEND >> M13 > alesis air fx > alesis ineko > alesis bitrman > >> >> off to srm 450s.....i know we had this discussion already and i have >> read all the posts but i was wondering if >> >> as of today, does anyone have any new oppinions or other >> suggestions?.....i am also going to get the expression >> >> pedal (s) for the M13.....young bill showed me the beauty of >> this!.....THANK YOU BILL, you are a sweet lad!..... >> >> i thnak you for your cornsideration!.....this just popped into my >> noggin, are there any smallish loopers with FX sends? > I don't know the Rang 3 at all, Michael, but my cursory understanding is > that they are just incredibly different beasts. > The LP2 has lots of slicing and dicing effects (and some very cool 1/2 > and 1/4 speed options that are very fun); > it has the ability to store up to 8 loops and load them from an SD card; > it has 30 levels of undo and it has feedback control > with an extra expression pedal......it also has midi in/out for syncing > to other midi devices > It also is a mono unit. > > Doesn't the Rang have multiple and simultaneous loops? Isn't it true > stereo? Does it have any midi? Does it store loops? > > My impression is that the LP2 is better for mangling and also > synchronizing and the Rang might be better if a > singer songwriter wanted to have one looper. > > The LP2 for me is a perfect augmentation if you already have another > looper, especially if it has midi. > > Any RANG 3 users out there yet? Can you help us out with it's > capabilities? > > rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 17:53:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E55F418348C; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <52956327-DF15-4107-BAF7-A3F1F608BDF7@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT Tasty freeze Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:53:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:53:41 +0000 (UTC) I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Eventide Timefactor in the discussion of freeze and sample and hold. I just took the plunge and bought one to replace my dying DL-4, Holy shitsky! I must have not been paying attention when the virtues of this pedal were being discussed. I like the fact that you can apply a hold function at anytime with any delay algorithm, including reverse delay. I also like the fact that once you have hit the hold button you can use tap tempo to alter the loops length which can create some very interesting artifacts. I have been eying the timefactor for a long time and finally decided that it was time to stop pining for one and pull the trigger. i can't believe how good this thing sounds and I've only scratched the surface. Now I understand what all the fuss was about. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:00:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762A118348D; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JaW5H/YAiO+bzuFdcMTYl+eP+H7gTPlOtmsFJyH2Rxk=; b=c/uhvsQ3euohs4Ny5hb1IUe/Csim+Vd6CpewfdaPjjneVeCBhuND7EQLavDaoxrsRi K/0hneSmdVaB3YI49cipnEpPtxG8Hd2b5j6Cizl/OUf4biIDnwWsGh0Ghni5y8X7HhG3 826DdkZ5s8Xg1pbcN1KuF7jcOHbvpw+KDV0ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A+M7YpSrRcWYYuP4AipvmFG0LA9uSyanQOmYAwxHvnLfcH0YCOKqRgRdZQxVgGqwS8 1MP90z+4poedqS17j2n1MNGUmrF2i8V/u6ZFY62Up05ZEj8z7GbnRUBO17e5N7uUiiap H1sTALz/a1ZZiQvaD1v4JKBNYYBo0+l2fCcB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:00:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab675ae098049d97cd26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:00:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ab675ae098049d97cd26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed: I started thinking about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's use a percussion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now rate-shift them to generate polyrhythmic patterns. So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octaves. The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-shifted tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/4, then rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting +7 gives you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 triplet. The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but they're pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let 'em drift and deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script to the exact rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of neat mayhem could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of recording a single sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-shifting the other 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulation and 3 more for percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of course you could use different sounds on each track. The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just a germ of an idea that needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls file, just email me -or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;) k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > lol! i'm gonna try that! > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith wrote: >> >> Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it with a very simple >> rhythm. > --001636c5ab675ae098049d97cd26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed:

I started thin= king about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's use a percu= ssion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now rate-shift them= to generate polyrhythmic patterns.

So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octav= es. The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-sh= ifted tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/= 4, then rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting= +7 gives you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 = triplet.

The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but t= hey're pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let &= #39;em drift and deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script = to the exact rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of = neat mayhem could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of r= ecording a single sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-= shifting the other 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulati= on and 3 more for percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of cours= e you could use different sounds on each track.

The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at http://www.samplesmith.com/L= D/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just a germ of an idea tha= t needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls file, just email me -= or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;)
k



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com= > wrote:
> lol! i'm gonna try that!
>
> On Thu, Ma= r 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it wi= th a very simple
>> rhythm.
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#avg_ls_inline_popup { position:absolute; z-index:999= 9; padding: 0px 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; width: 240px; = overflow: hidden; word-wrap: break-word; color: black; font-size: 10px; = text-align: left; line-height: 13px;} --001636c5ab675ae098049d97cd26-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:01:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65B77183490; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KqzuVg23LXF9XOfPpDsOpSjfX1WccZZjZNd16UWJhl0=; b=C+EIujzvHUK/biRKsdRBQHlLumAlS949QSFyDyPJF/r4jUbUrNR6G9z8+QCjH7og8w ahsPEzl+Il0xp7+Lh/vC0+ssbIHTb3DHG3r4lTJ0kP7P3X32VZYOwtuBl19n/FkU+s3w 7+Pp36mWYOk5X6CSdQ+SeN7hPEeqKDHeA2t8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hYUNbMD0G97Wm2Y14QS0j3JAzkHvKAGhYOgCanrvlt/WFLGH86f7eyaJmvDFOuqoPd 7KW+fwbCqJdzFeJNlSOiXwqbVdnX1uUljIZ9DDIexBbNHlmxXU3Vkv+6UxKaoU/VbUUC ZTDXs16EJGlprodIWO8mJ7Ls8m4tR8p51OZKU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <52956327-DF15-4107-BAF7-A3F1F608BDF7@baymoon.com> References: <52956327-DF15-4107-BAF7-A3F1F608BDF7@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:01:28 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Tasty freeze From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750edbc980996049d97d133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:01:29 +0000 (UTC) --00151750edbc980996049d97d133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yeah, eventide kicks ass all over the place! you can do the glitchy changing the delay time on the eclipse as well. especially good if you attach a cc pedal to the tempo subdivision parameter, then you can change the delay time and it's always quantized. very nice. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Walker wrote: > I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Eventide Timefactor in the > discussion of freeze and sample and hold. I just took the plunge and > bought one to replace my dying DL-4, Holy shitsky! I must have not been > paying attention when the virtues of this pedal were being discussed. I like > the fact that you can apply a hold function at anytime with any delay > algorithm, including reverse delay. I also like the fact that once you have > hit the hold button you can use tap tempo to alter the loops length which > can create some very interesting artifacts. I have been eying the timefactor > for a long time and finally decided that it was time to stop pining for one > and pull the trigger. i can't believe how good this thing sounds and I've > only scratched the surface. Now I understand what all the fuss was about. > Bill > > --00151750edbc980996049d97d133 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, eventide kicks ass all over the place!

you can do the glitchy = changing the delay time on the eclipse as well. especially good if you atta= ch a cc pedal to the tempo subdivision parameter, then you can change the d= elay time and it's always quantized. very nice.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Walk= er <billwalk= er@baymoon.com> wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Eventide Timefactor in the discu= ssion of =A0freeze and sample and hold. =A0I just took the plunge and bough= t one to replace my dying DL-4, Holy shitsky! =A0I must have not been payin= g attention when the virtues of this pedal were being discussed. I like the= fact that you can apply a hold function at anytime with any delay algorith= m, including reverse delay. I also like the fact that once you have hit the= hold button you can use tap tempo to alter the loops length which can crea= te some very interesting artifacts. I have been eying the timefactor for a = long time and finally decided that it was time to stop pining for one and p= ull the trigger. =A0i can't believe how good this thing sounds and I= 9;ve only scratched the surface. Now I understand what all the fuss was abo= ut.
=A0Bill


--00151750edbc980996049d97d133-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:15:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 764BB183491; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Tu/I/oaq04vGJjNNo2OT1bmNs2KsqYpVPvX87X+HFE=; b=JQGs+VH5i0ye3hZ6a/799ocexTqfV33KAIfQphsLqhyfZHVah2pdKFhvgcsvL8mGll a8CmO5lvbbefKGHU2RqoMYv3EVHFsS7knGawm+JGns+DAF1ZAsQE/Zo8jDb88PgX6/jN xImCv4vww7adW1ji3OALQU0eo2irDniRbtKU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mJP2UT/VJdVZ/T9gad2aJXhlTu0vuqPjsKs68k9eLMigxi/3t2uRIxlGfrrfrlEXdk 4m/i9RHF85EsozpCmi0Jowe/gTMV1MXt7T+98wxLFgmZT5y4sh6rDKJtaSohhpv+hCF7 EU1RfT3yB30VKPmg7RD95FNT5W293sdQyjr80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <52956327-DF15-4107-BAF7-A3F1F608BDF7@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 11:15:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Tasty freeze From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555b19a053a5a049d98027a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:15:02 +0000 (UTC) --00032555b19a053a5a049d98027a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Har! With Bill on board, I do feel validated. And thanks for the hint. I have been using the hold but didn't notice you could mess with the tempo while it was on. I just hope they'll come around to letting us use the delay time knobs to turn the loop inside out (reverse). I also love the modulated delay (just a touch). I can't quite get that sound from anything else I've tried. Protect those knobs! I had to replace one when the little centering tit on the end of the shaft (inside) got broken. Keep it in a box or on the board. k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > yeah, eventide kicks ass all over the place! > > you can do the glitchy changing the delay time on the eclipse as well. > especially good if you attach a cc pedal to the tempo subdivision parameter, > then you can change the delay time and it's always quantized. very nice. > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Walker wrote: > >> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Eventide Timefactor in the >> discussion of freeze and sample and hold. I just took the plunge and >> bought one to replace my dying DL-4, Holy shitsky! I must have not been >> paying attention when the virtues of this pedal were being discussed. I like >> the fact that you can apply a hold function at anytime with any delay >> algorithm, including reverse delay. I also like the fact that once you have >> hit the hold button you can use tap tempo to alter the loops length which >> can create some very interesting artifacts. I have been eying the timefactor >> for a long time and finally decided that it was time to stop pining for one >> and pull the trigger. i can't believe how good this thing sounds and I've >> only scratched the surface. Now I understand what all the fuss was about. >> Bill >> >> > --00032555b19a053a5a049d98027a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Har! With Bill on board, I do feel validated. And thanks for the hint. I ha= ve been using the hold but didn't notice you could mess with the tempo = while it was on.
I just hope they'll come around to letting us use t= he delay time knobs to turn the loop inside out (reverse).
I also love the modulated delay (just a touch). I can't quite get that = sound from anything else I've tried.

Protect those knobs! I had = to replace one when the little centering tit on the end of the shaft (insid= e) got broken. Keep it in a box or on the board.
k

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Simeon= Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
yeah, eventide kicks ass all over the place!

you can do the glitchy = changing the delay time on the eclipse as well. especially good if you atta= ch a cc pedal to the tempo subdivision parameter, then you can change the d= elay time and it's always quantized. very nice.


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, William Walk= er <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Eventide Timefactor in the discu= ssion of =A0freeze and sample and hold. =A0I just took the plunge and bough= t one to replace my dying DL-4, Holy shitsky! =A0I must have not been payin= g attention when the virtues of this pedal were being discussed. I like the= fact that you can apply a hold function at anytime with any delay algorith= m, including reverse delay. I also like the fact that once you have hit the= hold button you can use tap tempo to alter the loops length which can crea= te some very interesting artifacts. I have been eying the timefactor for a = long time and finally decided that it was time to stop pining for one and p= ull the trigger. =A0i can't believe how good this thing sounds and I= 9;ve only scratched the surface. Now I understand what all the fuss was abo= ut.
=A0Bill



--00032555b19a053a5a049d98027a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:30:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DA3A18349D; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=0mcHVFZq6AqLsQ7w4bvN7H5WqDmaaH/otHn5yoFr7zY=; b=P9a5y93AZFGuZPeJcRe6RO55z5S7quAOJdCRWEqXJzPUKk9owRNsbnAiQiAU46X9we Q1o1KMXkHhEwMl4lANhijBTHGV9vZfof09dWIeJ2D+ZaaEtgDooKhLZ+w1me0kHAEK2n 2c7rwu3nHLKxYkP/csYYdcnxg4BOOEFriE3GQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=lULeo5qyKZoi4AjDKoRRKfznP9vKTy22/cSxrPbwVX+YmL2BCeiTx4x9ySFmB7aAVf wGkvSkLVgC09pmOIiHAdtsP+TEpffGJhM9UlrP3IqnRbqPu/xqwvzQqXbIjkCKSju+cp DrSZCrhZANKEnGfE+/DNKAZvS1j6PxEH44bKc= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:30:25 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <85QveC.A.hHF.H59bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give = first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc.=20 250- Timefactor 250- M9 350 for the Boomerang Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I = don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em = on ebay. -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:32:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DB7618348D; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299177142; bh=Ya54q1pG5i2jei3jb094XYgC2VUybHdCNmSjRei70b8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gs7Wl+Or9sJm2BxtvPDV8Emww/aFlqeMJ1IZKZWCONxpJnkw9r+WAmg5+I9pcjZ116J+IyXs4pBegjvhDtU4HG4HB+KuzxGhKPuktJiDptuA5NbDGl6XMFb/62wFRLxWZki6Noe+XyXBfWKAIbCNriq6oxe/y2JIlHYhUPAoRTo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IUSCK6W1898I/Vi9mjP1+SgbSGBQamQlpGC71rGeagQxSYYQWdf4LuHMcJLhFmLrW/xy/D4wk/wqLVEaG+GIWPK8iqlhL16SK34HEZq34xvOnmLc+jn0gMPhlZYFqAmTk80RextBCF88h1bOCr03LVipxwTlpIunEgYQ+i8rijw=; Message-ID: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HvQxW8MVM1nIxorO.Fv3Tp4eLeOjKzQ58mIyGzjzATghJRX 71vSw9IqlSGLk0v2NIIs1q.ox7CgomXcJUmSQjl2J2kInp6.6fgT5Mk8tU.m 4w1G8o0ucuMzUDIxB1UlCtEbZ7Yzu5mdFTtBdqFYw5_yJLeN6TYUOW_qx7b6 y1LJVaeh_cF2PNYBTmqRlcBNPaSNWyNEPto4HAHhs3OvQrJkomPa03.D_1nH m05.6ZfJtreWC5pgajzgrYt6SWK.N_QAwPW2dES710cSIVAIO4BlmT9G7giM kj.lXssnzWkQ92BNoZoTKbrl2u.Sx_58cqfoopWuo.BOtFtIgvOu68pM9XA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 10:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-746078054-1299177141=:24335" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:32:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-746078054-1299177141=:24335 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello, I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want for it? Antony ________________________________ From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc. 250- Timefactor 250- M9 350 for the Boomerang Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay. -Todd Matthews --0-746078054-1299177141=:24335 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hello,

I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want for it?

Antony

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3

I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc.

250- Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay.


-Todd Matthews






--0-746078054-1299177141=:24335-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:40:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F55183495; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578928524/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AigCABJvb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFHNX4VhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,259,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="578928524" Message-ID: <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:40:43 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > Andy, > > A reverb is not simply a "network of delays", ...but your description below is *exactly* that. All the elements of it are composed of delays. Anyone who has Bidule can open up Freeverb and see how it works. ...and maybe use it as a basis to create a freeze of sorts. I didn't hear increasing phase dispersion in the EH examples, which would be the case if the sound was looping through an allpass, but maybe I just didn't hear it. >in fact most digital > reverbs consist of a loop of allpass filters* set to various delay > lengths with a variety of injection points and output taps. > > * An allpass filter is defined as a feedforward delay combined with a > feedback delay, it is at the heart of every digital reverb and the > result of increasing the coefficient is greater diffusion. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:47:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1589183499; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=SjvtiF667l9lqn2+ShgPGRef0jmVHS2e6kp4npXvGLk=; b=EAzaueEH6WFT9GnyJIbzuPPIMb1RVe+YF4oPw8M+SHaevWZ15dXm22zd4BPLcR6lTF Imej8s7KcyyM8xJplyrwIEieI6znB6r6r+ND8N/jBhd42IAuNZiTCR+8FioSMvbDyNab zriZhE0WqiDh5kum40NcP1//NGlMfpYivvrxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=qyN7/uuZBTN1Ctye7MbgvZXHMZk8/l2XXlr8kVuH9JqDFZRSlfmCgcvLweHd+k4F2u B68lCvUFpPg1uIZanLi5AWLh7VO9mhkEkvm2YUzQrtuNVxI8ko/LRgtaeFYuxTcF7mYo uRl9lMwAu0od2W03tMblFT4g1QPUt7XmHxP6s= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-895784819 Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:47:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <9703CB10-3654-4085-9258-7C3E1DC17272@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:47:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-895784819 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US = doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the = Rang3. How Geo-self-centered of me! -Todd Matthews On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > hello, >=20 > I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am = in France. how much do you want for it? >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Todd Matthews > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM > Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3=20 >=20 > I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give = first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc.=20 >=20 > 250- Timefactor > 250- M9 > 350 for the Boomerang >=20 > Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I = don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em = on ebay. >=20 >=20 > -Todd Matthews >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-2-895784819 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I should have written the prices for dollars marks. = All prices are in US doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the = M9, and $350 for the Rang3. How Geo-self-centered of = me!

-Todd Matthews
On Mar 3, 2011, = at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

hello,
I could be interested in the = Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want = for it?

Antony

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
 FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang = 3 

I'm = going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first = dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc. 

250- = Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this = email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hear anything = here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on = ebay.


-Todd Matthews









= --Apple-Mail-2-895784819-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:51:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 165E218349C; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=CEC3003dp9Z2zBFopAT9qPc9FnF02wFOZ6+XNqFYrCk=; b=VypnbSX0CpJYdHy/9fskN4Z0Gx5tiXVNMLV+74dF7qfpFAq/prwnECD0yTpmks0UAJ tEkEVXpq9PMcWxmd+B+H+YGT/GO5cRglmtLMh5gqbGgR+HVgW57Ex/3FkdqWrrO4O9VR BdSjxER2AfNaVvxImKgUDtUPPaJsYPEnYWSPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=yCnZrWlw4lQJkMps35DG4CFLwMKlBv7RQSPF3eoGVFOKiUv4P3dnYo/z7kF0ael7bv nv3yBbSHXoyRvstE7EuUMISwDSpcCYqqAWTglbmsO01t35yMpVRO8/PTT3YtWMaBrEKo T/7fLVrZLdHg80kybhZR8S2cEvVHVNbrOI8W4= Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9703CB10-3654-4085-9258-7C3E1DC17272@gmail.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-896027915 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <9703CB10-3654-4085-9258-7C3E1DC17272@gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:51:25 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: <2jClrB.A.DxF.8M-bNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:51:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-896027915 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US d= oallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the Rang3.= How Geo-self-centered of me! >=20 > -Todd Matthews > On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >=20 >> hello, >>=20 >> I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in Fra= nce. how much do you want for it? >>=20 >> Antony >>=20 >> From: Todd Matthews >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM >> Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3=20 >>=20 >> I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give fir= st dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking= amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I ha= ve velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leave the= velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I'm selling= to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and a= s much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes a= nd burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases ha= ppen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc.=20 >>=20 >> 250- Timefactor >> 250- M9 >> 350 for the Boomerang >>=20 >> Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don= 't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay.= >>=20 >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Todd Matthews > http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-11-896027915 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Save that timefactor for me for a few m= inutes?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM,= Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.= com> wrote:

I s= hould have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US doallr= s: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the Rang3. How G= eo-self-centered of me!

-Todd Matthews
= On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
hello,

I could be interested in the Timefactor.= Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want for it?

Antony

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatt= hews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
Subject: = FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3&n= bsp;

I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and= I thought I'd give first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of th= ese pedals are freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in per= fect condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalb= oard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on y= our setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice recording gear as I discus= sed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop= looping setup crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the rec= ording gear purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc. 

250- Timefactor
250- M9
35= 0 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship the= m the same day. If I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll g= o ahead toss em on ebay.


-Todd Matthews









= --Apple-Mail-11-896027915-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 18:59:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19EE81834AA; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VHwWbkQaVEcz+/sjzgnpp0LzgLyKY7qRRrdQKpf6IpVbVIC3iyXK+Obu7HrC8xVZ; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:59:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a3ade2e3cb9fd33f3ec82f9ca559e486350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:59:46 +0000 (UTC) >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Andy, >> A reverb is not simply a "network of delays", > >...but your description below is *exactly* that. >All the elements of it are composed of delays. Perhaps to the uninformed it would appear that way... so when is a "delay" not a delay? When it's used to create an allpass. The delays used in an allpass filter are typically very short, and measured in samples rather than mS... >I didn't hear increasing phase dispersion in the EH examples, >which would be the case if the sound was looping through an allpass, >but maybe I just didn't hear it. I'm not sure that you meant to write "phase dispersion"... Try to think about the topolgy in a different way. If the allpass network is located after the loop, it would diffuse the signal but not cause an increase in density with each repeat, as would be the case if the AP filter were inside the loop. This would also obscure the loop points if there were enough AP filters in series. > >>in fact most digital reverbs consist of a loop of allpass filters* >>set to various delay lengths with a variety of injection points and >>output taps. >> >>* An allpass filter is defined as a feedforward delay combined >>with a feedback delay, it is at the heart of every digital reverb >>and the result of increasing the coefficient is greater diffusion. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 19:01:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB46A1834B7; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=eTEHLWyI9AKzvxdf3qg+IdVjn8HkJvcLOWsWkFh46+I=; b=eWygbGhAX+bITurP9KdBx2RHLmeFde6AAwVZGnspQU6KwR1F0/keL9CdOvarCBf7vV noSQKzoWsJ00EepFesULcZuyoaf8NLdyHYABr32kZfT6KwP/LEKgpN13rFepiHzKtph5 p275XTe4XXuJDPJTp0RDPnXniYIfJetMmaqCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=JHOV81qdwheOyChZQ1UWH6wVUbRS/YnEzCWpYvyW85ZDn9alqkojcW+7oph41MpZOi PEfl1BVUpIeOvQtNaO5h6cQ4HY3AB+YO3Y/m6IIv0ACpe8P6wJPlKtk+xepIoEz0/elA NJ9vu2mZ7G3FgouF9W4+dqLYvDZ6jYUsaYE2I= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-896647694 Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:01:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9703CB10-3654-4085-9258-7C3E1DC17272@gmail.com> Message-Id: <1EC77FD0-D66D-4E8F-BBA2-2C22A07034AF@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:01:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-896647694 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Todd! Hal Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time you sent this email. = I would have totally sold to you had I known you needed one. Sorry :( On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes? >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >=20 >> I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in = US doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for = the Rang3. How Geo-self-centered of me! >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >>=20 >>> hello, >>>=20 >>> I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am = in France. how much do you want for it? >>>=20 >>> Antony >>>=20 >>> From: Todd Matthews >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM >>> Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3=20 >>>=20 >>> I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd = give first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals = are freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc.=20 >>>=20 >>> 250- Timefactor >>> 250- M9 >>> 350 for the Boomerang >>>=20 >>> Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If = I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em = on ebay. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -Todd Matthews >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> Todd Matthews >> http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-1-896647694 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Todd! = Hal Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time you sent this email. I = would have totally sold to you had I known you needed one. Sorry = :(


On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Todd = Reynolds wrote:

Save that timefactor for me = for a few minutes?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, = 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> = wrote:

I should = have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US doallrs: = $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the Rang3. How = Geo-self-centered of me!

-Todd = Matthews
On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

hello,
I could be interested in the = Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want = for it?

Antony

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
 FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang = 3 

I'm = going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first = dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc. 

250- = Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this = email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hear anything = here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on = ebay.


-Todd Matthews











= --Apple-Mail-1-896647694-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 19:04:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CDFB1834C2; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=xd1Xn/PiTd+yFQmr7TojzqbW4y4OmgCXeO8HLJZfIlI=; b=gD1D0ZBPu/XAt3016lMGA8lDDcr1TM/1NvNqyqAjrgTRvw1JDmitOGsEXyezxMxJ8L dhLZk4dsT6g4Vqpfc+78I1NcovWG2UeeB8AmY0OKp8GWliVjlfc8bNPsgwBaC7O8MYgE 0Fj9PtKhw5TyTCuL4vprZvoAPmb+wIkjvB8ps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=T+yxlEj0eXpeBONeCrRroaAeCN3ICzc7fpSjvemJnEsth0cGlnpQhWAudgxgpueQvJ O0ULnsf2OxMAvNH2ffv3Dafq4SPvLv62Vm1uoQneTij5zmHdy9XZ5WZsOE2ge/HT1pQW 4eSbaRX+W66eBfv0hEu3pIUeHvVY4+ndzwshA= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-896805018 Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:04:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <4D3988B1-54C4-4C8F-A775-A9D14A2EAD62@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-896805018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Holy guacamole!! All pedals have been sold. The internet is freakin' = fast. -Todd Matthews On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > hello, >=20 > I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am = in France. how much do you want for it? >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Todd Matthews > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM > Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3=20 >=20 > I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give = first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc.=20 >=20 > 250- Timefactor > 250- M9 > 350 for the Boomerang >=20 > Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I = don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em = on ebay. >=20 >=20 > -Todd Matthews >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com --Apple-Mail-2-896805018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Holy guacamole!! All pedals have been sold. The = internet is freakin' fast.

-Todd = Matthews
On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

hello,
I could be interested in the = Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want = for it?

Antony

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Thu, = March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
 FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang = 3 

I'm = going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first = dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are = freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect = condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my = pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back = depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice = recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to = keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... = this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I = have the boxes, manuals, etc. 

250- = Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this = email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hear anything = here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on = ebay.


-Todd Matthews









= --Apple-Mail-2-896805018-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 19:05:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4821834D2; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KFD/LRVSKlAu22MJ39Kas20cZR5vstGwzPcIeUnPavY=; b=bE/oQBsildwswRQN5bsd0ahzbofj+OGhX30CW8/b+o4Lj8ANfAluTZLVc38HTvviCq cgGSS/fEgDBk1ogp/APhWbnewKA+YbfPob91Ui3m/azmPJal7oci6/2qSd4wVEbxQXCr Ia9QhyR4Iug+fqQaaM7MtN0dTpo+4+6H1KK5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=LXQdpw0+6zdUFVPIobqZd/rkTYIxxBat24gG+p4SkdWSkMpnYris7cmN7oy2R1i7Zz QxroMK5HO2LGbAJfZ0x3I+/4nsqFTPjQb0MuuoNA59DdzgP7zCI0e0PD4svDw3HBLpuR D2e0xaVSDr9fB7D5yYMlazN/G2g5mt0ZQkEQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1EC77FD0-D66D-4E8F-BBA2-2C22A07034AF@gmail.com> References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9703CB10-3654-4085-9258-7C3E1DC17272@gmail.com> <1EC77FD0-D66D-4E8F-BBA2-2C22A07034AF@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4c5a0c5589f049d98b5c4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:05:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4c5a0c5589f049d98b5c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no worries, first come first serve, as it should be... enjoy it Hal! On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Todd! Hal Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time you sent this email. I > would have totally sold to you had I known you needed one. Sorry :( > > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > > Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > > I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US > doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the > Rang3. How Geo-self-centered of me! > > -Todd Matthews > On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.co= mwrote: > > hello, > > I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in > France. how much do you want for it? > > Antony > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Todd Matthews < gtmatthews@gmail.com> > *To:* > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM > *Subject:* FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 > > I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give fir= st > dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking > amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I > have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leav= e > the velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I'm > selling to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earlier o= n > LD and as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop looping set= up > crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording gear > purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc. > > 250- Timefactor > 250- M9 > 350 for the Boomerang > > Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don= 't > hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay. > > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > > > > > Todd Matthews > http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com > > > > > > Todd Matthews > http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com > > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --000e0cd4c5a0c5589f049d98b5c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no worries, =A0first come first serve, as it should be... enjoy it Hal!=A0<= br>
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Todd Matt= hews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com> wrote:
Todd! H= al Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time you sent this email. I woul= d have totally sold to you had I known you needed one. Sorry :(


On Mar 3, 20= 11, at 1:51 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote:

Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes?
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matt= hews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com> wrote:

I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in = US doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the R= ang3. How Geo-self-centered of me!

-Todd Matthews
On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:

hello,<= /div>

I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are yo= u located, I am in France. how much do you want for it?

Antony

= From:=A0Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To:=A0Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=A0Thu, Ma= rch 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
Subject:=A0FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3=A0

I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd gi= ve first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are f= reaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition = but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could = leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I= 'm selling to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earl= ier on LD and as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop lo= oping setup crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the r= ecording gear purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc.=A0

250- Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at= this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't hea= r anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay.<= br>

-Todd Matthews








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=95 Outerborough, my debut doubl= e CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on = March 24th. =A0The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Pr= oject Room. =A0I'd be delighted to have you there.=A0

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rou= ge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still= available for the newly added show.=A0


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--000e0cd4c5a0c5589f049d98b5c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 19:26:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BDD1834DF; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k0uS7EJvDVzHpAle9ECbEJMdY2EWcIm2ana+gTvcZ2U=; b=gMuFEESVMyj878clNKV4rRnzBioOFkIjIldJtvvSF31FhiUV53KY2N6Ye4WGSZhoID 3G+hMJeT/XOttPMMG2ZBPo2kcZpSLfKC9XT0Hp1vk1KYt2ffRQQTRdKAELA/72w+BMuf YtPduYnBXw9DHVvZuxV6f17cHRcNp0IFwdFbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=B2VxW+k0/Y+WWryJokTzqL0DnvVb8bcgjp+fnTfc5lhbqRO/yxONevUtEj8kJusc3m xaereYyZVx6psaBxojye7b1w40foohKgkc9AOMn12dH+3udze31L4Cw5OEVJ9kJjkXZb 42g543j2m7WgL1/gSYol2aRXu4xgWbb4gl+rc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:26:28 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51b549233a1049d9901ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51b549233a1049d9901ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well i tried it with some simple rhythms and the results were pretty unusable using my exisiting rate shifts. i guess with more thought as you've laid out, you could possible do something pretty cool. one thing i'd really like is the ability to predict how a rate shift will affect the length of a loop and therefore calculate multiple rate shifts so that the overall loop length is unaffected. i tried to work it out (the math isn't particularly hard), but the results didn't work in practice... sim On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed: > > I started thinking about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's > use a percussion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now > rate-shift them to generate polyrhythmic patterns. > > So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octaves. > The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-shifted > tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/4, then > rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting +7 gives > you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 triplet. > > The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but they're > pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let 'em drift and > deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script to the exact > rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of neat mayhem > could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of recording a single > sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-shifting the other > 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulation and 3 more for > percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of course you could use > different sounds on each track. > > The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at > http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just > a germ of an idea that needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls > file, just email me -or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;) > k > > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > > lol! i'm gonna try that! > > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > >> > >> Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it with a very simple > >> rhythm. > > > > > > --000e0cd51b549233a1049d9901ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i tried it with some simple rhythms and the results were pretty unusab= le using my exisiting rate shifts. i guess with more thought as you've = laid out, you could possible do something pretty cool.

one thing i&#= 39;d really like is the ability to predict how a rate shift will affect the= length of a loop and therefore calculate multiple rate shifts so that the = overall loop length is unaffected. i tried to work it out (the math isn'= ;t particularly hard), but the results didn't work in practice...

sim

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, K= eith Smith <kahs= mith@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed:

I started thin= king about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's use a percu= ssion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now rate-shift them= to generate polyrhythmic patterns.

So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octav= es. The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-sh= ifted tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/= 4, then rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting= +7 gives you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 = triplet.

The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but t= hey're pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let &= #39;em drift and deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script = to the exact rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of = neat mayhem could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of r= ecording a single sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-= shifting the other 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulati= on and 3 more for percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of cours= e you could use different sounds on each track.

The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at http://www= .samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just a g= erm of an idea that needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls fil= e, just email me -or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;)
k



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@= googlemail.com> wrote:
> lol! i'm gonna try that!
><= br> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Then there are the insane possibilities of doing it wi= th a very simple
>> rhythm.
>




--000e0cd51b549233a1049d9901ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 20:05:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9361C18349D; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587695631/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.31.230/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.31.230 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AigCAP6Cb01YbR/m/2dsb2JhbAAMmFPNLIVhBI9i X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,259,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587695631" Message-ID: <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:06:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > The delays used in an allpass filter are typically very short, and > measured in samples rather than mS... At least in Bidule the delay parameter for Allpass is measured in mS. In freeverb the range is from 5 to 15mS. As I understand it, it's intended to be a way of having a delay with feedback, but arranged so that there's no comb effect on sustained notes. > I'm not sure that you meant to write "phase dispersion"... Just meant that different frequencies are delayed by different amounts. (Allpass is also used in a phase fx.) >Try to think > about the topolgy in a different way. If the allpass network is > located after the loop, sorry, I took your description below to mean that there was a "loop of allpass filters". > >> Charles said >>> in fact most digital reverbs consist of a loop of allpass filters* ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 20:17:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 047281834B4; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=H16eRStYaJiOc+1o3Yp7BT3HYyjLcYJHrSq53Uv8vgI=; b=cVuWP9XMIfy78B33VkHfQBAFbQumWJalfw3K2Wqk0oGiAshdg0m108dYw95XWhyrad FT5ADstG5akTF2KWjGziVvrzlKntGxSeIiXWhOcPI4qc/1lVGA/tcoj2Z//eFNHACCPY UzhMfjzbR1ZgKWFsVfQHL/Beo7ZHv8P5XV+Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SDwYCeDJ7yVyH2USi3MEuYLPKEbt1GimiYP2PdZa7hqlFljYOfsmcYCDUh7UAh8GmV apsfO5gpmJjuubks34xdLlQpUlr/y6wxt/EVQSVBC1F+eqn8L3fr4SOUdJM9jJJ71Lp4 vmTPeJixTxHe2lFiTtnDfaf7M+G9bIovUU2HM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:17:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bd8682e850049d99b915 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:17:56 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bd8682e850049d99b915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Simeon, you are much farther along on scripting than I am. Can you actually specify a non-semitone value? Also, I'm thinking the math is not quite on -that the rate factor should actually be the reciprocal of the values in the /cycle (1/ratio) column eg. half triplet = 1/.33333=3 k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > well i tried it with some simple rhythms and the results were pretty > unusable using my exisiting rate shifts. i guess with more thought as you've > laid out, you could possible do something pretty cool. > > one thing i'd really like is the ability to predict how a rate shift will > affect the length of a loop and therefore calculate multiple rate shifts so > that the overall loop length is unaffected. i tried to work it out (the math > isn't particularly hard), but the results didn't work in practice... > > sim > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > >> LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed: >> >> I started thinking about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's >> use a percussion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now >> rate-shift them to generate polyrhythmic patterns. >> >> So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octaves. >> The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-shifted >> tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/4, then >> rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting +7 gives >> you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 triplet. >> >> The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but they're >> pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let 'em drift and >> deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script to the exact >> rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of neat mayhem >> could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of recording a single >> sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-shifting the other >> 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulation and 3 more for >> percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of course you could use >> different sounds on each track. >> >> The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at >> http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just >> a germ of an idea that needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls >> file, just email me -or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;) >> k >> > --001636c5bd8682e850049d99b915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simeon, you are much farther along on scripting than I am. Can you actually= specify a non-semitone value?
Also, I'm thinking the math is not qu= ite on -that the rate factor should actually be the reciprocal of the value= s in the /cycle (1/ratio) column eg. half triplet =3D 1/.33333=3D3
k

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Simeon= Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
well i tried it with some simple rhythms and the results were pretty unusab= le using my exisiting rate shifts. i guess with more thought as you've = laid out, you could possible do something pretty cool.

one thing i&#= 39;d really like is the ability to predict how a rate shift will affect the= length of a loop and therefore calculate multiple rate shifts so that the = overall loop length is unaffected. i tried to work it out (the math isn'= ;t particularly hard), but the results didn't work in practice...

sim


On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com>= wrote:
LOL again - The things that happen to loopers in bed:

I started thin= king about the purely rhythmic possibilities of this. Let's use a percu= ssion sound instead. Same thing; record it on 3 tracks. Now rate-shift them= to generate polyrhythmic patterns.

So, I made a spreadsheet to calculate the frequency ratios over 2 octav= es. The reciprocals of those ratios give you the time values of the rate-sh= ifted tracks, so if you consider 1 cycle to be a whole note (4 beats) in 4/= 4, then rate-shifting +12 gives a 1/2 note, +24 gives 1/4. OK. Now shifting= +7 gives you very nearly a 1/4 triplet, +17 very nearly a 16th, +19 a 1/8 = triplet.

The last 3 would drift, of course, because they're not exact, but t= hey're pretty close, so they might be useful for a short time, or let &= #39;em drift and deal with it. It does make me wonder: If you could script = to the exact rate-shifts for various note *time* values, then all kinds of = neat mayhem could be created very quickly by using Simeon's method of r= ecording a single sound (or pattern) on three tracks at once and then rate-= shifting the other 2 tracks. I'm thinking 3 tracks for chord manipulati= on and 3 more for percussion sounds, leaves 2 for melodic looping. Of cours= e you could use different sounds on each track.

The spreadsheet isn't exhaustive (pdf at http://www= .samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf ). It's just a g= erm of an idea that needs a lot more thought. -if anyone wants the .xls fil= e, just email me -or let me know if I'm re-inventing the wheel ;)
k

--001636c5bd8682e850049d99b915-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 20:33:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D75DB1834CB; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mBYhFufRYRPe6kIbDf97lH6VKvmRK85lBgQOwRl3L8U=; b=OPPlV/8+nwr4i4sWDxXchMkt+FhNjn9mhdEr80FbcBiLL5RQgitOnLcmfcUPgMyNzX wKzZi339MZxUZvXye9sGn7cfLEHVIIze5q4nW71O/iZJQbfCfdvHKQvkeeILuXz/Xyi3 jX4sZ51dfxIuotCgZw9s5cCRLnuNGucTm/Vc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Hdl32PkH96Z0iqfElYQvKMnoPrV/FoJD8XrJUcuASAfLyX8+Rrx09AlcPrcZKTCw2D /HWrp3f9EVXJwwSJjO7xycCJ+uPkrGKdtlKbmnDwCogdv0CN0BqVyfajGv0lT7pid+le rqh+DjUpML424LoIHgphBiguPXhbbSz4PbbAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:33:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Keith Smith Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f369201d56b049d99f099 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f369201d56b049d99f099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can't yet specify a non-semitone rate shift value. That's coming soon.... I don't know if it helps but here is the formula for converting a +/- semitone rate shift into a floating point number. /** * The frequency factor between two semitones. * This is 2^1/12 */ #define SEMITONE_FACTOR 1.059463f float Resampler::getScaleRate(int degree) { float rate = 1.0; if (degree > 0) { // speed up rate = (float)pow(SEMITONE_FACTOR, degree); } else if (degree < 0) { // slow down, abs and invert rate = (1.0f / (float)pow(SEMITONE_FACTOR, -degree)); } return rate; } You can then divide the loop length by this number to get the new loop length. There may be some round-off error but it should be fairly close. Jeff On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Simeon, you are much farther along on scripting than I am. Can you actually > specify a non-semitone value? > Also, I'm thinking the math is not quite on -that the rate factor should > actually be the reciprocal of the values in the /cycle (1/ratio) column eg. > half triplet = 1/.33333=3 > k > > --20cf307f369201d56b049d99f099 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can't yet specify a non-semitone rate shift value. =A0That's co= ming soon....

I don't know if it helps but here is t= he formula for converting a +/- semitone rate=A0
shift into a flo= ating point number.

/**
=A0* The frequency factor between tw= o semitones. =A0
=A0* This is 2^1/12
=A0*/
#d= efine SEMITONE_FACTOR 1.059463f

float Resampler::g= etScaleRate(int degree)
{
= float rate =3D 1.0;

if (degree > 0) {
// speed up=
rate= =3D (float)pow(SEMITONE_FACTOR, degree);
}
else if (degree < 0) {
// s= low down, abs and invert
rate =3D (1.0f / (float)pow(SEMITONE_FACTOR, -deg= ree));
}

return rate;
}

You can= then divide the loop length by this number to get the new loop length.
There may be some round-off error but it should be fairly close.
=

Jeff



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Keith Smith <= ;kahsmith@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Simeon, you are much farther along on scrip= ting than I am. Can you actually specify a non-semitone value?
Also, I&#= 39;m thinking the math is not quite on -that the rate factor should actuall= y be the reciprocal of the values in the /cycle (1/ratio) column eg. half t= riplet =3D 1/.33333=3D3
k

--20cf307f369201d56b049d99f099-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 20:34:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37CE21834C7; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iuypabCH2qB0qKnIvvXOZhpFZttYq9qGgk1lc1MhXLmkbc8OT/WeJD5r7sR3ursZ; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:34:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d7e136c11d7f6d72a5581c33f4c40cde350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:34:17 +0000 (UTC) >Charles Zwicky wrote: > >>The delays used in an allpass filter are typically very short, and >>measured in samples rather than mS... > >At least in Bidule the delay parameter for Allpass is measured in mS. >In freeverb the range is from 5 to 15mS. Certainly not within the range where you would hear them as a discreet delay... > >As I understand it, it's intended to be a way of having a delay >with feedback, but arranged so that there's no comb effect on >sustained notes. No, not at all.. it's effect is diffuse an impulse. Try putting one in the feedback loop of a delay line with a coefficient of about 0.5 and you'll hear what I mean... > > >>I'm not sure that you meant to write "phase dispersion"... > >Just meant that different frequencies are delayed by different amounts. >(Allpass is also used in a phase fx.) It's an entirely different implementation than what you'd typically find in an analog "phase shifter". > > >>Try to think about the topolgy in a different way. If the allpass >>network is located after the loop, > >sorry, I took your description below to mean that there >was a "loop of allpass filters". > >> >>>Charles said >>>>in fact most digital reverbs consist of a loop of allpass filters* This comment is referring to a non "constant density" reverb, for example as in a Lexicon and Ensoniq reverb. As I pointed out above there are several ways to do it. It's likely that the EH "Freeze" uses a series of allpass filters before and after a fixed delay line. > >;-) >andy Yep... |-O -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 20:43:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFB0B1834A2; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PXLNv3vDGH4LV2BbrlWjNiaHLVqAfV+ABX6Senu7ya4=; b=WCN7hpAfc7oy1jPVdt3rDKAnV5YIJB4QA7aQEBFlnozT70lrD6qXk+aaTMv+R9KQTJ rG48Qlcb/HjtgbO1n8ff8MH+TSnjrCMwyhlUxYRqMB6F57JcU7LtAQtyQr85EgAVkPtd gapdI2VAKgQETuPkR4dvDaDP46BtqD6qmdFRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UPBoX6obPE5JBh84846XlnFmSI/LDAxZvYFxhdI1yzHOrhOUfLrpTFXJgNEdQnPHd3 lp7cd1z1lkQa0K7iQeQL5kaqPYlE4A81Tz8J/BgAuJW9ud0htgU9rNFPCMSwR96Xpqb+ CWQPNQxHMaICaxTxfUUboDPaX96y8g6a7JVuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:43:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:43:05 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > You can't yet specify a non-semitone rate shift value. =C2=A0That's comin= g > soon.... Excellent news!!! Guess we will be able to set up seamless tonal sweeps than as well? I will be having a lot of fun with fixed micro tonal scales. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 21:07:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 177C41834AA; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h4NDlJxOi/hNAvaEFrTGnJfMfgLNtk05Xk020ZyUNyE=; b=Ag/nuHp9YZ34gtB+ZvPoSjMlfdHkL+3Iz1v8WEqX/68Op3ar+TWtC5cmA8zNofHJZJ 2wldhqOoaQ7pRsFDtWSN9H+spXy39j26iAPAaqYq9ERmMZ3qS8WpHYUN++35wekuicBd UosqHgl5pdXvJUK7f8gRMzpWTbjCy1csh6lOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HVXQhXrgBJany/74pXDnSpZgi6ftRCiyRtQO93Px3ye0QclpqH94uXUJiXh48XxnyK CJ0cEJBpYe9Klw13hSwtUkyI4hVPBmoP4PhQoL9Bv6ZCsrEyqbhf4t1l3xApR2N8R20c 5TOeMTN/xOyyI9P6UUgQGLy3OncM8b2Ll+8fY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:07:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab672df2e5049d9a6c98 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:07:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ab672df2e5049d9a6c98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just added a rate-factor column to that sheet -same link http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf They're all multiple of each other once they exceed 4 and that's as much as Jeff can give us I think, and probably as much as we could use anyway with the pitch shift taken into consideration. Sorry, Jeff. I thought I was replying to the list. Again, thanks for chiming in on this! Hi Per! k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Jeff Larson > wrote: > > You can't yet specify a non-semitone rate shift value. That's coming > > soon.... > > > Excellent news!!! > Guess we will be able to set up seamless tonal sweeps than as well? > I will be having a lot of fun with fixed micro tonal scales. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --001636c5ab672df2e5049d9a6c98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just added a rate-factor column to that sheet -same link = http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf
They= 9;re all multiple of each other once they exceed 4 and that's as much a= s Jeff can give us I think, and probably as much as we could use anyway wit= h the pitch shift taken into consideration.

Sorry, Jeff. I thought I was replying to the list.
Again, thanks for= chiming in on this! Hi Per!
k


On = Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> You can't yet specify a non-semitone rate shift value. =A0That'= ;s coming
> soon....


Excellent news!!!
Guess we will be able to set up seamless tonal sweeps than as well?
I will be having a lot of fun with fixed micro tonal scales.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


--001636c5ab672df2e5049d9a6c98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 21:26:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A4A81834C8; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KYcL2HsL2iXxAcBCcI6M71Vd04hdEcDcSDNUpDCeBaw=; b=CF9ArOKz24f1njQxm4Wo+n3X0d1lGD46r4HU71E+GSF0/KYPQhXK+bhZy2KJmVRBdk isNnbvkHXVIefhndxkrMS7pnTNtIbxb5joLTgxMq1WlHd2G03lBLASe41Hc9nTdFBCB/ UMAhddWnumI/PZpvjg6hbmaDxSMg4ypV21BK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ocu7rL0e6x2r3ADlKWse5d+/N+MXDg1GDoi0dPYXBZ+QPTp2i2fXnxDWi8ezzoGSi7 X85cYw0V6mfOfJUcSrdYyzwgYeBnhZYPsOjeU+1DvWvvGB6051ckodgZvFoEIpMVq0jh nVMqreWNwk0uD5M4LW9ItVz5UATBrh53p297A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:26:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:26:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > I just added a rate-factor column to that sheet -same link > http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf Thank you for the PDF, Keith! An interesting recourse to study in depth and envision new rate shift sequences. I'm dropping it into my Mobius Research folder. Since I've started using Mobius six years ago I have played with the same two rate shift sequence scripts and it might be time for me to expand a little ;-)) Those two scripts each exist in five alternative versions, each one matching a specific time signature. The number of up vs down rate shifts keep the loop length during the duration of the script. I must say I like that a lot, for its performance aspects and rhythmic effects as well, and I don't miss pitch shift at all. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 21:43:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436E11834C4; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9xa8HjBbV1dpApsmtHJd0gh89WRrghXKEuJf7p8vHjo=; b=xaGSUpKF3HW7vE2v+A36jHbkz9UsB4odNBS1V2lGHC9lSAVM7Zs9JhGoOsWc9V4GbY QxmdaDx+MAH17alDgkJO9WPRDrOmp0ZdRI9PlOz7P7/z3VYewHW0jwJb2BesiV38O+se lYITYKA3SkG7fLs2wpDeACpEv8rZzzGx8rozU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e1ybV5903oqsCSpoyAGd0n71lXIAlzV1TePc6SKEb4Hz3aizDNhJo1eqlfMfxUriSR Ynm7dGLHz5YWZ4BlHVP6fQN+md0iIFHvVylXsKVaWhsT3K5Uh26OY1LAOrRGzKM3Iv2E 4TjG3/aR61gYNhwOjFUGU4KOO9JtLslS6qA80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:43:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e5f2326393049d9aeaaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e5f2326393049d9aeaaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You're very welcome, indeed. Since your last post I was looking at the math for Just and Pythagorean Intonation. It's going to take a bottle of courage for me to get into that! Do I feel a fretless guitar coming into my future soon? k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > > I just added a rate-factor column to that sheet -same link > > http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyrythms.pdf > > Thank you for the PDF, Keith! An interesting recourse to study in > depth and envision new rate shift sequences. I'm dropping it into my > Mobius Research folder. Since I've started using Mobius six years ago > I have played with the same two rate shift sequence scripts and it > might be time for me to expand a little ;-)) Those two scripts each > exist in five alternative versions, each one matching a specific time > signature. The number of up vs down rate shifts keep the loop length > during the duration of the script. I must say I like that a lot, for > its performance aspects and rhythmic effects as well, and I don't miss > pitch shift at all. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > --00151750e5f2326393049d9aeaaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're very welcome, indeed.
Since your last post I was looking at t= he math for Just and Pythagorean Intonation. It's going to take a bottl= e of courage for me to get into that!
Do I feel a fretless guitar coming= into my future soon?
k

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just added a rate-factor column to that sheet -same link
> http://www.samplesmith.com/LD/Rate-shiftingForPolyryth= ms.pdf

Thank you for the PDF, Keith! An interesting recourse to study in
depth and envision new rate shift sequences. I'm dropping it into my Mobius Research folder. Since I've started using Mobius six years ago I have played with the same two rate shift sequence scripts and it
might be time for me to expand a little ;-)) =A0Those two scripts each
exist in five alternative versions, each one matching a specific time
signature. The number of up vs down rate shifts keep the loop length
during the duration of the script. I must say I like that a lot, for
its performance aspects and rhythmic effects as well, and I don't miss<= br> pitch shift at all.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub

--00151750e5f2326393049d9aeaaf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 21:50:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A367A1834A7; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sl/bz8478m1MXYrofnUSzAk86Khldh1B7w7VAyche8Q=; b=KgH3yzNtI7Nv9iuBZbVQ9Mioa/KBzyvRzSHX/LkWAn5QAUT050hQepogMu+w32nv4x 0N+AT8nLIFGb2Aw+L9Mtq5/uMCbCr31RvnCWL9mMa/f8FAb1ATiovbWXHlxRjahWc9O5 i+niyEYJzLLqL6cHgxzN7wiToHfgfIbM5vjF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FtIv4a0puRNAlzBf6ayRUsx9g8t3WMsajn37DBeQB2KVfEY8liFbX2AlKRqnMlwOc6 j3TX+0k2L5BBSk0AnyiuluBlXDQLXzYQrpYWJsW36O+D4pKE4VY2vy2yxr6eD6A7WD6J PmPyi4LAUXgW2xNJba7hRkqa9xXrS+SoTgYBQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:50:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:50:09 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Do I feel a fretless guitar coming into my future soon? Are you serious! Wow :-)) Nice! Glad to hear that because I love fretless! Using a Telecaster I defretted myself but I really want to pick up one of those French Vigier fretless guitars with a certain metal finger board. Those are the best. A bit expensive for me, but still underpriced if looking at how good they seem to be. I'd like a Sustianiac mic at neck position and a Dimarzio Dual Sound at the bridge position. The longneck Tarhu (unfretted version) is another tempting instrument, but the luthier makes them in Austrailea! And the bowing technique demands about a year to get into I would guess. But what a sound! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 22:12:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68D761834AA; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FpqVEYJ+VoFmOn5+ouL2vUMyy1w0sjgKDZmyHSL2qnk=; b=s6QgEqlGPc1BXXsYVJlIhuexfabkxBjMyxfcxayFo1f4jQIpGXDfUAysX+YJCfJ0DC hXU4eLJ4zKcMpgTubrRyl7D1ALd3E8NEEOblCbZrDjf4Kr18fq0jNeMtLZ+6sRHZuS+Z m2MjPLioXJu0i6sp+vHQHrosPAbHnPmG04fLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFpOuIQKRiX+EmXxDmtiRj26hKOebcQcbEA766R4eNOkuXr1Olfsd3NE3vGQUmpMcd SVrZHeSWcm0MlgPYqt2/F3O6vZb9j4GItNdVD/tbeEO/AqsN37APtSPcUOCTwFJ0/a9n XfVNXnjHy38Z4WaXj4gwXTPYqY7KcZHEQCEnE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:12:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:12:17 +0000 (UTC) OMG!=A0=A0 Well, the last two years have been devastating for freelancers around here, so the bank is broke. However I do have one of those nice little (cheap) Yamaha Pacifica Tele copies laying around that just might lose its frets sometime. I've had it tuned in 5ths since you started writing about the 'stick', but honestly, I haven't played it much. I'll be keeping the frets IN on the Asat and the Tennessean, thank you very much ;) I just acquired my first EDP, so I'm in the throes of learning that right now. When Jeff gets 2.0 out, I'll probably drift back to the computer, but I'm really enjoying the somewhat liberating experience of hardware for the moment --EDP + Repeater has some interesting possibilities. My biggest problem with this stuff is getting a chance to play it with somebody (or keeping the inspiration up to play a lot by myself). I'm pretty type-cast as a 'standards jazz guy' around here. The solo gigs I get offered are *very* inside. Hmmm. You do me thinking..... k On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > > Do I feel a fretless guitar coming into my future soon? > > Are you serious! Wow :-)) =A0Nice! Glad to hear that because I love > fretless! Using a Telecaster I defretted myself but I really want to > pick up one of those French Vigier fretless guitars with a certain > metal finger board. Those are the best. A bit expensive for me, but > still =A0underpriced if looking at how good they seem to be. I'd like a > Sustianiac mic at neck position and a Dimarzio Dual Sound at the > bridge position. > > The longneck Tarhu (unfretted version) is another tempting instrument, > but the luthier makes them in Austrailea! And the bowing technique > demands about a year to get into I would guess. But what a sound! > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 22:28:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609B61834AA; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aBabi7XStOXtuvVa7stECSZWt3TSs51osDTjc7GS0k8=; b=PYd8KyORORe8jBLu+X5m9aVlrAuNPcBSNzFtPRhuRWWkKEzqYURYqbiDokQEQLTTLf 5nPEFUXFFQzf6wCQwPDdRxvjPbzyVEjPpjaxrx412uQ3l4fbFmw9lJ1zx4S+HgZnb3NB HqADhwJs41uB46FFogl2piR/+R04jMvDkhr54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SnmVvJvC80KNJnLLE5Bu0tSY5R2ldhEKVaJn+m7EX72EmlG1r75nvbfbZPtxwAsEWS BmuO6Sz7p7zsiCluqvF0IZthVADAZ/mvESgMsYTYVYP2OcaqnyjWxfBfmzgkFQIbd+Te qZzoziOTYkV0Pbfiu/0OCtYGkH3gn53B/2I4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:28:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:28:15 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > However I do have one of those nice little (cheap) Yamaha Pacifica > Tele copies laying around that just might lose its frets sometime. Tellies are no good for fretless, since it is hard to plane the fingerboard well due to its curved character. A better option would be to find a cheap baritone guitar. Or even better, buying a replacement baritone neck from Schekter. I've tried that but those damned manufacturers want to put in the frets right on. > I've had it tuned in 5ths since you started writing about the 'stick', After a year with a STick I'm finding six 5ths mirrored strings is very complementary to six 4ths strings. > --EDP + Repeater has some interesting > possibilities. Yes, I had those and that rig led me to Mobius. Still running Mobius scripts that started as MIDI tap dancing for the Repeater ;-)) > My biggest problem with this stuff is getting a chance to play it with > somebody (or keeping the inspiration up to play a lot by myself). I'm > pretty type-cast as a 'standards jazz guy' around here. The solo gigs > I get offered are *very* inside. Hook up with some "extreme soloist jazz" guy! When looping it becomes such an inspiring thing to simply provide a steady stream of backing chords for a monophonic cat to climb around. To both loop and handle the lead/melody function can indeed be a bit overwhelming for one single musician - funnily that was the reason I got into Stick playing; to get away from the need for looping and be able to do more instant bass-chords-melody instant impro in a solo concert setup. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 22:55:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E699E183466; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nmuIpWHfiXT0OYvyUlljMoD6TAUh8v95QKOwqHUrRjI=; b=cCbAV5iryTiPzVgxBC6wu0FkauMMQ4CScfDGMoJ0/2/Zl5mzzgAEI3P11LSH3Az4G3 oe2m9BKLx2Yn1zXPNWRT7rdLAqFNEhxjfoMvt4Txk8juo+YbtRc75l0JkXPvLfYylPd3 NKmxeaXrGCQIp6qZhL+PHHhfNlNskJhcSC/DY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p8SFEAoJtgMUPhUK7GhE+l247BIMH5/hpnqnjdHwEV6yHUMsQEs82A0kmU2Bt1gVfz zkA0DTOE45N0YYfGQre9+sudm782D+ZWmmPMJoPdfD6Y8jm2LcnTL1JW73tuzLBkOXbo de3FnG7Vj1Ldkhi12dixvQGO0uijqYObnquzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <23UOaC.A.28D.GxBcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:55:02 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hook up with some "extreme soloist jazz" guy! When looping it becomes > such an inspiring thing to simply provide a steady stream of backing > chords for a monophonic cat to climb around. To both loop and handle > the lead/melody function can indeed be a bit overwhelming for one > single musician - funnily that was the reason I got into Stick > playing; to get away from the need for looping and be able to do more > instant bass-chords-melody instant impro in a solo concert setup. Gotcha. I have my eye on a really nice tenor sax player -in Cuba right now. We've talked about a duo CD. I love that one with Bill Frisell and Joe Lovano & Paul Motian. I guess my ideal is the way Frisell can get into and out of a loop so easily (and thus, get through a set of changes). It never sounds like it's 'looping for looping's sake'. It's always in the service of the musical idea first. k > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 23:01:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E539C183476; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rx3do63/08+ivrbHADQ7u8MQgK2WUSFQXMA6i86Nnpc=; b=oNMMW7ur0kdQzjrmju/zmT1Q89W3DT6mZf9y5rLn5e263aiJEf9/GJgbDgEhA81rhW b7x2Jvy53EXs1j2b+0UVlHB51fobenHwmpmAYBYPFHc1IxErB9umnZk3wz6DiBFwY/jM sP/LovLMW4Ko6+y/WZwh/Ku6U6mKZzw7cBJYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=V3jDaQP8rJTtyWaeDyK9PaUOOyWiOI/Ih2JdRBYxB8AlIfT09Uh/PGOGfAslH0/oyD sZ049CYZXq9vfQorT6mnIBGu/RpO+whvrHLAiJS1uEsp0pYEY5n1JniqcB32rlVNSOm4 ahDwb2fDDkUPgyo7t97mdk46WfA1rs3AAeQhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:01:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > I love that one with Bill Frisell and Joe Lovano & Paul Motian. > I guess my ideal is the way Frisell can get into and out of a loop so > easily (and thus, get through a set of changes). It never sounds like > it's 'looping for looping's sake'. It's always in the service of the > musical idea first. Well said. Totally agree. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 23:08:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF0CA183477; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kgTjAOdThYspexCbVSE6ES5NO0rF3ptrZ8bu8pyf7TQ=; b=iY3IcIkHoq6g/vdCOh+VQpARN7R5HLxCdlNPeFeSdsiuT2VHsOuLlW/TR2K8Umcxcn oVZvraVm9ppy31mO7VDVdHe5hjuH3/g2x2IXo7ByAnl1i1pc8WSftjI1XyvJcbNE2c80 mLIv3Tn0MpeABCMm+kunRPWTGtlbVAOT691qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=GMNCCPbHl9rOWRtRtK8VbHkkChcKBBsIeGLA3q9S3F7SFLCKLYY+pibcq/gwXQtao8 tEGZtTwDAvbIJTXWqSyO+IGbK/0t5EMc0CbltDZ+kCM1AAI2iy2bdzQaAAeSQHafxqiT QFb/fJHyaN1ye7tN6DDwm2ffF4Jn/o4BGQAao= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D3988B1-54C4-4C8F-A775-A9D14A2EAD62@gmail.com> References: <344601.24335.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D3988B1-54C4-4C8F-A775-A9D14A2EAD62@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:08:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OnHzXDhdqQ1QdQUDEqxBdY2uc08 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52e5eb11f701c049d9c1c4f Resent-Message-ID: <9tkhLC.A.YSE.49BcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec52e5eb11f701c049d9c1c4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Holy guacamole!! All pedals have been sold. The internet is freakin' fast. > > > Thats because you were selling some cool, kick ass gear!!! You wanna try selling a ancient old drum-machine... https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/12e6d0ba678e201e PAH!! Then the internet is slow as shit!! :-) m -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec52e5eb11f701c049d9c1c4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com= > wrote:
Holy guacamole!! All pedals have been= sold. The internet is freakin' fast.


Thats because you were selling some cool, kick ass gear!!!

You wanna try selling a ancient old drum-machine...

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PAH!! Then the = internet is slow as shit!!

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--bcaec52e5eb11f701c049d9c1c4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 23:34:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B3E183465; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i/Ty3l8KKd2jsVpHKIN/kmOALkdmFUejczr6xLKFTo0=; b=CwJvo6bF50mnSieDfiEKkmaiup8ycAvh+r1K+74rUZV8+nA+annpRfKfuPOlMxGtCL aVKsVEoVFkoxBS61DOmWrfiuPCRUw4zctMvd4GNI8z+jp88eLqA5qWALTUwoGBLaULDa 19uNsDVbmpjrM4WJ5J4cQ2WoOfJiqNHmXumNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OPmavqlIATD4ZW/ey9LMGBdCcUzWUSHRKK79n5ScR2BOigvUnKl9vbtAh8adRfFYTr 0XZnsx5JD1gCSLuvaVjw7WugnMyiA1y5Lo0dKgUWg/yJZ/XEj+Img7tweF4sVETLiy+V dDxAmypm/4GkgXzGhqMfWoy7yOddjQhj/Euhs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:34:51 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1uLht.A.E3E.cWCcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you defret a guitar a while back Per?). Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 23:45:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86934183465; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: David Gans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Calton cases Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 15:45:42 -0800 Message-Id: Cc: David Gans To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Anyone on this list do business with Calton Cases? I have bought = several from them over the years, but the company changed hands a while = back and now I have been waiting since last May for a case. I sent them = more than $900 and I fear I may never get satisfaction. I have had only = sporadic replies from them to my calls and emails, and I don't think I = will ever get a case, nor my money back. Calton made great cases, and I really need one for my Turner Model 1. I = am now trying to scrape some more bucks together, and looking for a new = maker of roadworthy cases. Since I started talking about this, on (e.g.) the Folk Alliance Western = Region list, I have heard from many other people who are in a similar = situation. You have been warned! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 3 23:51:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C62A183466; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-03_08:2011-03-03,2011-03-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103030162 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Fretless Guitar Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 15:50:59 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 23:51:26 +0000 (UTC) I've defretted about 6 guitars. Use 15 minute epoxy if possible. Use a really thin toothpick to get in the slots. It's difficult not to mess up the edge of the fretboard when you pull up, unless you can get a good grip on the fret with pliers. You can use wood putty too. On a fretless bass it will be okay because the fret indentations won't do anything to thick strings. You'll have to file the nut otherwise the intonation will be really messed up. There will be little sustain with normal guitar strings. Thicker the better. Wounds strings sustain much better. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: OT: Fretless Guitar Hello all, I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you defret a guitar a while back Per?). Thanks, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 00:18:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E1B183474; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MOlbMOm5hea89d2jaZ1cOnybPZuP0FI7TtABvPUHMd8=; b=J/AbfyM++HoIWeGVxvhNJg9IVsRUn6W0EObOQVMDh/OP7E6R1T8IBeKyqatCrcavJT 1o23dx09f+ks4NTqm0DOfjSofnUXS6VWIxt9VPNdGRKbt4Q9JQMXYk0rDwOpYvF0hvnn oZ21l00Mx2rnKEwKXj6dgIGmCQWR1dGSxoQEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CIeqBh04u6UasNaoWcxWBm7ur1QWkNwUZjtfmNFfa8ArhywpFl3UY/92OvyyIVeVcX 90/ezGDr842ccJMXz+6a+0PTqis0QMEhTlsSXCA9h4YN1tTnIv4I7IjZBiZ44gQYC3Ho Zl2o3e6wdTkAmMUpqWAdZtrUxvkeeLHRhfPw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:18:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) I've done two de-frets now. The best advice I was given from a luthier was 1. For the electric make sure and cover the pickups (better still, remove them if you can) BEFORE you start any work on it because you will want to re-surface/refinish the finger board and if you use fine steel wool, well, that should be self-explanatory. 2. DO consider "filling" the slots that remain from the fret removal, unless you're putting a plain fingerboard back on...it helps keep the neck from warping ever so slightly. Otherwise, yeah, it's pretty straightforward...sounds like a really cool project! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello all, > > I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that > I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me > think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. =A0Its a > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. =A0I've found the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you > defret a guitar a while back Per?). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 00:49:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CD44183461; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-03_09:2011-03-04,2011-03-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103030172 Message-id: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:48:53 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Also, give the neck a good look before you start. I started in on a project and I didn't realize until I put the neck back on the guitar that it was back bowed and the truss rod wasn't fixing the problem. String buzz that couldn't be fixed except for raising the action a mile high. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Moser" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar I've done two de-frets now. The best advice I was given from a luthier was 1. For the electric make sure and cover the pickups (better still, remove them if you can) BEFORE you start any work on it because you will want to re-surface/refinish the finger board and if you use fine steel wool, well, that should be self-explanatory. 2. DO consider "filling" the slots that remain from the fret removal, unless you're putting a plain fingerboard back on...it helps keep the neck from warping ever so slightly. Otherwise, yeah, it's pretty straightforward...sounds like a really cool project! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello all, > > I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that > I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me > think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you > defret a guitar a while back Per?). > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 01:08:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 286C7183461; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 01:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D703B74.8020806@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:08:04 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 01:08:08 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Five Nocturnes" on O-Town Music. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 02:44:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3483183461; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 02:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: Fretless Guitar Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:43:29 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Fretless Guitar Thread-Index: AcvaBg2G0OsFR6waQ/ioMNa+JwCrmgADoVKw References: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2011 02:44:25.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[13473300:01CBDA16] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 02:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Yes and keep in mind that when you pull the frets the neck will need a truss rod adjustment, as the frets actually will push the neck back some, in fact we used to get some straightening of Martins with no truss rod just with a refret, so you might want to put just a bit of a back bow in the neck after you pull the frets and if they seem to be glued in you can use a small soldering iron tip to heat them. If it's an ebony fretboard you can use ebony dust (just sand some ebony and collect it) and mix that with the epoxy, which will make it stronger, sand better and look better too, if rosewood, then the same. Finding a piece of ebony or rosewood might be a different story.........you can order that dust too probably from a luthier supply. Oh that's probably a maple fretboard isn't it, yeah a lot easier and any hardwood would do, light colored I mean, but not pine. If its maple its gonna look like a bull's ass sewn up with a grapevine, but you could stain it black. Andy O From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 03:00:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2008E183464; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: Fretless Guitar Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 18:53:42 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Fretless Guitar Thread-Index: AcvaBg2G0OsFR6waQ/ioMNa+JwCrmgADoVKwAAB1DuA= References: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2011 03:00:31.0717 (UTC) FILETIME=[53061950:01CBDA18] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:00:32 +0000 (UTC) By the way you'll probably need to sand the finish off that fretboard for it to work halfway decent, then easy to stain it if you wanted to, most have some lacquer on the fretboard I think....just fyi. If you need to lower the nut and are happy with the string slots and spacing and stuff, might be better to pull the nut and sand it down, by hand, with sandpaper glued to a flat surface, then you are just lowering all the way across but don't go too far. Again a bit of heat will help it pop loose, maybe a few seconds with a heat lamp, but its probably plastic so be careful. Nuts really shouldn't be glued in, other than a few drops of white glue to just give it a little grip, which releases easily with a little heat. Man this is making me want to get my luthier tools out again!!! Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 03:11:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AD57183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MdDbxkmhWcSCANQ2+XjoshyPMYOrvc3/VS2b5gIv27M=; b=wfDaIy0yktBWg0+TPpw5t78LzsFjmPjqS2cYo00TF8nTbJTrXuZi4OvSCBFL7rt/u1 MpZiOJfIywMu2tjkhUGrEhHQUlQvRNEJic/MkLLp2VnR21t/5epBgBoSVZdvPBMaxIij EIdJu468kOmWB6eNTIKk+lhAi2Y57RBObuL+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ipzEg+sVQFSl3fsaq6lYF4RL4WA3fLdC66Hs59I5u1x79PYoLN5PqpBgDNdV48FK32 jPXi7Mx5SpI6hxus3duhF3sWvuu+K0os5pdktoFJ4RSmW9iZ3eXsuxns3XrF/Zcz8yVx we5gE7nLrlmeqmRVw8QEjj7r3LQoYqqJebVXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:11:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Calton cases From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5016659788e6e049d9f819c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:11:45 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec5016659788e6e049d9f819c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 heh http://www.bbb.org/maritime-provinces/business-reviews/musical-instruments-supplies-and-accessories/calton-cases-north-america-in-moncton-nb-26215 --bcaec5016659788e6e049d9f819c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable heh --bcaec5016659788e6e049d9f819c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 03:21:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5130918345A; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AUTETfVi4wFNbwRUcIUUXWUi8YAFgyhHkYljakM5ih4=; b=ewkfn7JI4W/tiwS9fQRKEDLNf+eSUEMZPc1jGQ47B9rFWZwYX6588+Lrycq589xuvs 2CDZJEfZ1slGAQhj3dMFJX95O/25EsBYu1dbUbJ00RNFa2buSx5W8OGPczorfcLKpQjP YyLScZBgyxY7IHiy6rUSHLEmk+bXCYl0PhjQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uZPsqdJ0z+eIr+kLm+yRT142kdLu0kyE+xQyUUE5ifGTQNHXXbqJyQeCysKrY9DMmy RvPstMripJ9/lbazbXL0jlK+j7wJNNoDfOPvvBdQZsZgkUWlUSlZozcB/godkPrEnboD 1bUTXLA3dFfZhQ8QXLz8xMHoDN6fYpluVMaIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:21:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: doody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c598fba41724049d9fa2b6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) --001636c598fba41724049d9fa2b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Man this is making me want to get my luthier tools out > again!!! > > Andy o > I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKQf-JIvRU --001636c598fba41724049d9fa2b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=A0Man this is making me want to = get my luthier tools out
again!!!

Andy o

I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy...
http://www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU

--001636c598fba41724049d9fa2b6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 03:35:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40524183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1uOqx+kcvA6j6Gwy1BWeiAKMHOouqMpGttZFlOeWZ/w=; b=r0hu6PFgc3EAfdcIA3zbcjtEw0jyX3rRbCmsN1ILowJ7g2pQ5U/Vr/iAyDCkq/piQQ VMtDGGG72ZiT3Tzt39xYDaMaXg4vhRcKytN63X8m4lRHIExHcMWWhbsoIkr/4m4gYkKj eOBfz/6EnFaIwvBpgu/QlSfKdxJceKZ4ZfU8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dbt+ZyyJKqxLFoRq2SZEtqztsR5aw5o/tas1MZnnCSqTXyTAzX3WLOoNt1sWlzsv6/ 1O9nDfNKl+8/bRmQe1dQ+uVuMReWKMslsmjKyFnPmz67KouC6Mn681ghTuhSqzmXCcrx fVkjOdsh2fr8vAVAOSkTwPVeTZDYvA/ZgARhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:35:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Sorting out the good stuff From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:35:10 +0000 (UTC) A few days back I think, someone mentioned that they play a ton and then go back and sort out the good stuff from all the hours of sound to make an album (or something to that effect). I was wondering how they managed to do that (sorry, can't remember who said that or when exactly). I've got hundreds of hours of looped recordings, some an hour or more single take. And there are some truly amazing spots in there. And there are some VERY rough spots as well, things that embarrass me me when I say I'm a guitarist rough. But I find, I have a really hard time excising the 'good' bits from the flow of things because the rough spots seem somehow necessary to explain the good bits. Or finding when exactly to come in to the good stuff. Edit too soon and it seems kind of lost and aimless, edit too late and you wonder that anyone would ever listen past the first minute of nonsense. So I'm just wondering, for all the people who do the play and play and play and grab the good bits later, how do you decide? Do you have a strategy or plan in place before you listen? Just curious and not at all sure its really a serious question or just rhetorical but I will throw it out anyway. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 03:46:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25154183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ADl4GQK8LEmod7tqfRwZo4aFARiNSM+u/GSxoMzTT78=; b=iUa7gol23LC0rHNw4RHTQsKg6qnN59ixMYe8wq2UdvGnB+1TMxfkv3ZZB42fdFXtOQ 58vVSFQCrn9xkYNiTU1UWLZX2cQ509/yshFBgJPHLQKqSBRe7ocViHMS5re8HPY1hkUC ETudYN8N0nVcFlaYP8gWR5TrlArEWt9CmxscA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ObbOlQT/SDW0gOoIsuA9jXZxIUQ6212hzw5BY8G8/6AxAhX2q3/L12F5+y4oprx8mB JYGE4CELceXzRp3O/57HTDyTPs7Whztr0qNP3HQLOshPY3zVpKPbHpQAg3wGeACGtcE4 D+OKIIn58vVYl493exsXT9TuEie8La47dKOVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 21:46:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636499a4bbfb31d049d9ffdaa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 03:46:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636499a4bbfb31d049d9ffdaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i ended my search, bought a tascam dr03. saw they were on sale at MF for $79, they honored the $15 gift card from GC (my local GC didn't have it), & i had a 40$ gift certificate too. so i didn't pay much for it. should note i had been debating either the olympus dm420 or ws700-small digital voice recorders...but then saw the tascams in my MF catalog... i originally wanted to get the DR07,but both GC & MF were out of them, and come to find out, it's discontinued...it looks a little bigger, think it has a few more options. besides the price, a few reviews i read basically said it's an EASY recorder to use, which i wanted (i'm dumb & lazy). FIRST REACTIONS-when i got it on tues, the box WEIGHED NOTHING. when i took it out of the mailing box, the packaging weighed less than NOTHING. i wondered if anything was in there. when i took it out, i couldn't believe how small & light it was. i also thought it looked kind of cheap/plasticy, wondered how it will last, but i figured i didn't pay much for it...i was bummed it had no headphones w/ it (the olympus recorders come w/ some). wed night i did a cursory read of the manual (barely)-just checked to see which option for recording, i set it on one of the higher MP3 settings (they start it at highest PCM recordings-which gives the 2mb memory card about 2 hrs of recording)-and the recording time went to 14 hrs, which i thought was plenty of time for my need-i really wanted to just record my practice/playing time and listen back to try to work on my playing technique. have no illusions of recording anything masterpiece-ful to wow anyone--really just wanted to hear my playing to work on things. i recorded 2 little sessions on wed, one thursday morning, one thur afternoon. i was a little scared to listen back. wasn't sure if i'd just hear that i SUCK, or if the sound would suck, etc (should note i've done recording on my old 4 track tascam, my digital cd recorder, & my digital fostex 8 track). i think some reviews of people saying small recorders have crappy sound was in my head, and i figured the stereo mics in the thing were probably not great. well, after listening to the stuff i recorded, i'm really blown away by the sound. honesty really captures my sound/ playing i thought (warts & all). so far i've had it about a foot away from my fender amp a bit off to the side. it's a nice little recorder. i won't say that it will compete w/ any more expensive digital recorder (the $200 or $500 & up ones), but for $80 it's decent. certainly for capturing ideas it's easy to use, especially for me. the funny thing i've learning in my playing: i'm always STIFF in the beginning, and things sound better when i'm playing against my drum machine...at least so far....the other thing i like is it is small, not hard to carry to and from work which is part of the time i use for listening.... i'm finding in all my stuff so far once i get loosened up, i've done some little loop things w/ my digitech DL8 and played over it, textures, noise, lots of my FUZZ MACHINE use w/ my swollen pickle stuff, little processing from my korg kaoss pad 2....i really love it. don't know if it will meet everyone's needs, not sure how it compares w/ the zoom ones, but i like this one. happy looping. s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --001636499a4bbfb31d049d9ffdaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i ended my search, bought a tascam dr03.
saw they were on sale at MF for $79,=A0they honored the $15 gift card = from GC (my local GC didn't have it), & i had a 40$ gift certificat= e too. so i didn't pay much for it.

should note i had been debating either the olympus dm420 or ws700-= small digital voice recorders...but then saw the tascams in my MF catalog..= .
i originally wanted to get the DR07,but both GC & MF were out of t= hem, and come to find out, it's discontinued...it looks a little bigger= , think it has a few more options. besides the price, a few reviews i read = basically said it's an EASY recorder to use, which i wanted (i'm du= mb & lazy).

FIRST REACTIONS-when i got it on tues, the box WEIGHED NOTHING. wh= en i took it out of the mailing box, the packaging weighed less than NOTHIN= G. i wondered if anything was in there. when i took it out, i couldn't = believe how small & light it was. i also thought it looked kind of chea= p/plasticy, wondered how it will last, but i figured i didn't pay much = for it...i was bummed it had no headphones w/ it (the olympus recorders com= e w/ some). wed night i did a cursory read of the manual (barely)-just chec= ked to see which option for recording, i set it on one of the higher MP3 se= ttings (they start it at highest PCM recordings-which gives the 2mb memory = card about 2 hrs of recording)-and the recording time went to 14 hrs, which= i thought was plenty of time for my need-i really wanted to just record my= practice/playing time and listen back to try to work on my playing techniq= ue. have no illusions of recording anything masterpiece-ful to wow anyone--= really just wanted to hear my playing to work on things.
i recorded 2 little sessions on wed, one thursday morning, one thur afterno= on. i was a little scared to listen back. wasn't sure if i'd just h= ear that i SUCK, or if the sound would suck, etc (should note i've done= recording on my old 4 track tascam, my digital cd recorder, & my digit= al fostex 8 track). i think some reviews of people saying small recorders h= ave crappy sound was in my head, and i figured the stereo mics in the thing= were probably not great. well, after listening to the stuff i recorded, i&= #39;m really blown away by the sound. honesty really captures my sound/ pla= ying i thought (warts & all). so far i've had it about a foot away = from my fender amp a bit off to the side. it's a nice little recorder. = i won't say that it will compete w/ any more expensive digital recorder= (the $200 or $500 & up ones), but for $80 it's decent. certainly f= or capturing ideas it's easy to use, especially for me. the funny thing= i've learning in my playing: i'm always STIFF in the beginning, an= d things sound better when i'm playing against my drum machine...at lea= st so far....the other thing i like is it is small, not hard to carry to an= d from work which is part of the time i use for listening....
=A0
i'm finding in all my stuff so far once i get loosened up, i'v= e done some little loop things w/ my digitech DL8 and played over it, textu= res, noise, lots of my FUZZ MACHINE use
w/ my swollen pickle stuff, little processing from my korg kaoss pad 2= ....i really love it. don't know if it will meet everyone's needs, = not sure how it
compares w/ the zoom ones, but i like this one.
happy looping.
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--001636499a4bbfb31d049d9ffdaa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 04:45:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DAC0183461; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 04:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <82071D1F-E81B-468A-A17C-E43F6DF2D59C@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Calton cases Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:45:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_yrfAB.A.ItD.t5GcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 04:45:33 +0000 (UTC) This is good to know, i actually inquired about 3 weeks ago about ordering a case for my weissenborn copy and he got right back to me and said the lead time was 9 weeks, which I thought was a bit long unless but i had heard from the builder of my guitar that he had had difficulty getting stuff out of him. I'm sorry about your travails David. It makes me think he's in financial difficulty or something. One guy you might give a call to is Jeff Traugott who may have some insight as he orders the majority of his cases from Calton. good luck Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 07:13:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5C9183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 07:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cEhj9kOiUDryKqewsSohZJ2tX2MiBt5Wn+3NbxafIfQ=; b=GgzgAf5M+xu+unpDOT4+6Or1zX2UupFJi0Nb0+0PgNa7DE1gOfeLRW5PR/kLYSm0wf CsWRE0bEDmVbsH5mk9KFe8g7CqQSQyfOQi+BwAMFXTrqe1RT2DeNAHsiR1+t4REpjJff 1kvc6j0bmiWyKn74VnlhOW0Bq4HHmWD8q+LNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=GuhbArN7URiKqehjF2s0is6HAsQj6AN9J9xHLhoV9Uzk3wlDJmFNMv8Zun6s06CPU1 3A8yJFqvPkS2RiRv9r7NQF+yDqGx5zy9gglzKw8MQmkXrrWWQCZfa/qpV3QR7ux/6/rB KBDOsae8DrmUf5pk1knkxy0y8pkSFOyuM+1mw= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:12:50 +0100 Message-ID: <-5739728865730658977@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Sorting out the good stuff To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 07:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey kev! I know and understand how you feel! This exactly what i do too. I use all of your strategies, i also manually re loop bits ( often to Get past the errors, or crossfade long passages into new bits... You need a good editor, and i like to use a multi track non destructive thing, like reaper or Logic or acid (the only reason to use a pc imho). I have to admit that I very rarely manage to synch a long track on a daw timeline, and play new stuff as overdubs. I chatted with Per last year about different strategies, but i still can't get a long sound file to be rock solid sync with thr daw bpm. Sometimes i cant delete the dodgy bits, i Think as long As they lead somewhere and the final feeling after the piece is over is good then you have created contrast. On the Other hand i sometimes harshly chop and cut right down taking only the individual bars that Are good. On one album, i Even offer both the edits and the long form jams. (fish). I dont know what kind of music you play but my opinion is that recorded music is different that live. With live you can watch while the artist creates, in front of your eyes... Recorded music shouldnt have any fluff. Cut it out!!! Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Mar 2011, at 04:35, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > A few days back I think, someone mentioned that they play a ton and > then go back and sort out the good stuff from all the hours of sound > to make an album (or something to that effect). I was wondering how > they managed to do that (sorry, can't remember who said that or when > exactly). > > I've got hundreds of hours of looped recordings, some an hour or more > single take. And there are some truly amazing spots in there. And > there are some VERY rough spots as well, things that embarrass me me > when I say I'm a guitarist rough. But I find, I have a really hard > time excising the 'good' bits from the flow of things because the > rough spots seem somehow necessary to explain the good bits. Or > finding when exactly to come in to the good stuff. Edit too soon and > it seems kind of lost and aimless, edit too late and you wonder that > anyone would ever listen past the first minute of nonsense. > > So I'm just wondering, for all the people who do the play and play and > play and grab the good bits later, how do you decide? Do you have a > strategy or plan in place before you listen? > > Just curious and not at all sure its really a serious question or just > rhetorical but I will throw it out anyway. > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 08:00:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1061183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299225622; bh=BEAswThN+jrx+9nQTd+ooDH4QXehiHKM5uMzFDSu9Ow=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ELeLtv4jw/cl5TSq9hRChHPw0C2VLYsMTZhEmpWYz1CSl3kUhXGJqjben1ipKaHJAO/yvUYS1K/8emVvIEVJPITtiYAR/pFtucTag8N4FbhW8Ml0fpFAuikuA21k7seI3ZP9oyRTXtingrNaaqtxFRR/RGJcI1IPqd3IAop09MM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4lyPsgkXEePXoL4KdmLuvkPp7wZwTJpjhUnVF3WWp32rqwGwjEcKChYNHXyNx0R2NKApGuBAtXrh93MB66J7O8jQhW49rkT6uMRj5PU+OtjzSrNvYy2bNal+tEgx3aR9BrNhg/KsaxCm+Ypi3B3oJ0KLU2dssSW9hGeVQQOHTuI=; Message-ID: <458298.97937.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: czL5xisVM1nVJdMhk8ABYKhF0ARwL3IrqQLvIKXhUYBwDnk _.KhZrAuX53qU_qVbxDBSEmdIpbxug1ybot6xIhRR995YrVD0CvIQjE7d_xr HxgyzmnQcw3F7C_ytdWM8ZImh25ecd.zAJyoRsrOeUwtcgO3HXySj7oh89uG hMhvGCBQ3W6cTOZ2znKAtMM0UqWurb_Mkg9nZKxtE_tHGWfRQM4x_77ZcCSJ bYxgG8FtPgLUaz8tIGziJMj1UEdTV6G4G2A6RLJLYQNw0RXFTK2FgF77wRBJ D9dAu9NOX_jHtWsXzs863srXjNGY4OMnA35HOXBWX8f1WsNMqwm155P2seY8 - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:00:22 -0800 (PST) From: tim echols Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0xi02D.A.rdH.hwJcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:00:33 +0000 (UTC) i have defretted and refinished several basses, and helped a friend defret = an electric guitar one time. very practical for playing the loony tunes th= eme. tips that i saw during various projects that may help you: --the easiest thing i found to fill the frets back in was flat toothpicks. = if you have a rosewood neck and don't want lines, dye them. if you have a= maple neck and you want lines, dye them. --you can also make a mixture of superglue and sawdust (alder is recommende= d) to fill in the holes, depending on your expertise. --we finished the neck of the guitar with superglue, which is actually self= -leveling, and thus more forgiving in this regard than epoxy. but epoxy is= recommended-- it takes much longer to dry, though. i'm not recommending = you use superglue, just saying that it works. you spread it on with a cred= it card (that you do not need again), make sure it is reasonably level, com= e back in an hour or two, and, well-- it is like epoxy, as it takes more t= han one coat, and you sand it down afterwards. just thought you might enjoy= knowing that. time --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: OT: Fretless Guitar > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 5:34 PM > Hello all, >=20 > I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer > pickups that > I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and > something made me > think I should pull the frets off to give it another > life.=A0 Its a > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters.=A0 I've found > the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask > for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this > (didn't you > defret a guitar a while back Per?). >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Kevin >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body > and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause > of all trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 08:51:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5900D183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584275755/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.180/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.180 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AooCADo3cE1YbRq0/2dsb2JhbAAMhB6UO7wXkHWBJ4NEdgSPZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,263,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584275755" Message-ID: <4D70A808.4060602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:51:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > The longneck Tarhu (unfretted version) is another tempting instrument, > but the luthier makes them in Austrailea! And the bowing technique > demands about a year to get into I would guess. But what a sound! Like the Turkish classical Kemanche. (played you some when you were in uk) ...very nice andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 08:55:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8967A183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587887143/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.180/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.180 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AooCAHY3cE1YbRq0/2dsb2JhbAAMhB6UO7wUkHWBJ4NEdgSPZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,263,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587887143" Message-ID: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 08:55:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:was now tele fretless OT References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0uDyC.A.Su.CkKcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: Tellies are no good for fretless, since it is hard to plane the > fingerboard well due to its curved character. Find a good large mirror. Stick sandpaper to it with double sided tape. Remove nut from neck (and neck from body). Now it's not too hard to sand it flat and keep the curve. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 09:15:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FE3F183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6C6PXxGcWy0iXXNSkB0PYkf7XkY0QTISqmjyDNF3i8Y=; b=sllt8wyS1UyDBAMLOtdGs4Sogysr/WalxLO/niNqCIDjD1pCmwdWU6Hg+v34EMAXcn HRUgDzJKsR1hxk90IzOkYl0NIFvRxTA8dRT9nI91PAK4UQBZTyrppzG1C6kqrWzOnvig pxK6FeUYXZQEK56EiJrz4HT4uiWyeygDAIzUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FdaBf6ynxTkzug9UIbZA1W6cosTBMJfor0oIk/pSfSY2Gpote/3ln4urCTaQ6udrjB 9/eCSBX5Y5X7eRxgONDUpegSuuujrj8LWJu0F/XCdsp9Bs8YlBSrrLD4XUEmF39XIFdq 0xao2yxoR+ejbDwGbINftnf+CVHHbFs+rViAk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was now tele fretless OT From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:15:47 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > Tellies are no good for fretless, since it is hard to plane the >> >> fingerboard well due to its curved character. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:55 AM, andy butler wrote: > Find a good large mirror. > Stick sandpaper to it with double sided tape. > Remove nut from neck (and neck from body). > > Now it's not too hard to sand it flat and keep > the curve. There must be many carpenter specific methods to plane a curved neck well. In my case I'm too lazy to do all that. So I prefer to look at material that already lends itself well for fretless guitar, rather than costumizing another Telecaster. An important factor is that the neck, or specifically the finger board, has to be as hard as possible. A very hard wood pane or even metal cover works excellent. And a bolt-on neck is less favorable then one that is built together with the body. The action for a fretless guitar has to be set extremely low, that is why planing the board is essential. Compared to a bass guitar strings don't have that much mass and this is why baritone neck are popular for fretless guitars. And also the use of thicker strings, but then you might need to adjust intonation by moving the bridge a bit further down, or fret markers on the neck will indicate falsely. You see, there's a lot of stuff to keep in mind and that's why I'm finding those expertize built Vigier fretless guitars so tempting. Per (rather making music than messing around planing boards or whatever) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 09:19:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAFB3183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RP9NJb2XDDb0IY5bcPJVj/YgjLk3yNwofJODnml8wpg=; b=xRABXOrWADROgy8xqpG/INefRQNX4CuM1hAXeY2lKgs2rtr8ePBr7LCC9SYWUG6M3p 8qEu6aW3jy+PDdBQoI6yHwLovmJvmoZQcLQloCOWVpnmmd/31do389idvUjNvJ6Z6PE6 w4XUC1290ggaixrMjuDme4pvaR843iSnUY68E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vNXW8JceP/rzU0pMxxJq4DMJ3RsOVSQGMT0bRLz1jNMCqvhquSYPhx4h25ST8tFv8g Qlk1CmZpPSRM3qU4O7gK1If8tMa4SKCG3pr9HIZtlhYubv1HO8EwJxQ2PG+3O1gvnlm+ 9P/rACasR+LwnpOchpnyT6AOBF1ujTYRR7yzc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D70A808.4060602@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D70A808.4060602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:19:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:19:04 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > >> The longneck Tarhu (unfretted version) is another tempting instrument, >> but the luthier makes them in Austrailea! And the bowing technique >> demands about a year to get into I would guess. But what a sound! On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:51 AM, andy butler wrote: > Like the Turkish classical Kemanche. > > (played you some when you were in uk) > > ...very nice > Yes, I remember. It was really great visiting you in Norwich. Per :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 09:28:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906F0183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sjcCJIhmNXnT8t8GprXCC9m6LAEu9xvimAWcNiIJnvA=; b=mOwEE51U04mdFDl1BNfYQ192xpiGcpk1wmBvL1/sZc5eEcwAm01kl0wT/dgKQ5J91X TOzvRYy7OcKUFlrFrAhl3D9MLQP18psgEQ28JiC57yaE4I9uFwh6s+Xil/WLCp31qdMC U0eT3bGI/dERvIcixfjovb+v1174gKTfO4PaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fuKja0JUUcNMnhldRHlslPxIQED8d7ilYhj74gD9JQw8uWR0z4N2HLQGe8XqpQ/9lu 8cbymfMegvZ7b5xxd8W1kT/1nOr5EklaJplCRYLoldDQwaxltDMItrK1eXmtFeinQ/Gi EvWZmq7fwA4ZQlE2Viug3NtJkUGQKnr4NwJzA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:28:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:28:11 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. =C2=A0I've found the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you > defret a guitar a while back Per?). Yes, Kevin. I actually have defretted two. The Telecaster works kind of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from the typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of wood come off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work. Lots of great hints have been given in this thread already, so I have nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, that's where I found guidance when took the leap. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody wrote: > I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU Wow! That instrument is a complicated machine inside. You're looking at some seriously advanced project. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 09:51:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 159EF183476; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5OpLtD17Y/W+d3lp/at+7bTjEZ3Kbws+jT7rdakkgc8=; b=auqMBdFcRqSShXj2CHrmgw/1OJLlv5Rn/mqmCjuTw4f4QIQzEU2J8UMAZQM7Vt/Paf Zkm7TqYPRUziRFA1nXEU1g1WC6k+MjFIs63OzKZZecyTVnEM1N2hM5cuQRL9YmmI3qjH Zgq8hpT+ePEdKK9Zm+Aeqt4Nd9EIJR1erOHpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MxrP+voFhK/yJ0NoX/2uP+7Kr+AyWTLj/iTYwWCpgDpJqNOM2n//d/1WdSDgOIcQyb Z2M/WO2TZsM1DU5tV/NcAQ0iPWCc5mv8TYd9fmvOQ6UROwB4/+wbkzIx7pIHV1abax2+ Gc8szbxvxI9iNSGIpYTSzoKdzZsNPd/2RR9pQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:51:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sorting out the good stuff From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:51:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > have a really hard > time excising the 'good' bits from the flow of things because the > rough spots seem somehow necessary to explain the good bits. Totally accurate remark there! I suffer this a lot too. My method to deal with it is to listen and analyze what I was doing that made the music communicate those emotions. The I try to play it again, and again, and again... The idea is to not work with "notes" and "chords" as your tools but with pure emotion. Of course that's belongs in utopia and is not possible in the real world, but I have discovered that simply feeding the vision and wanting there makes you a better musician. And this attitude automatically leads to "less fluff" recorded (to go with Marc's excellent phrasing). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 10:27:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82365183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xFDE2aTE3Jit1+Xq9VtuPmgXNsnxIJKAfl9O9NPzfYY=; b=fUqm3nm338BlQMtw5AFEjYf/DAm2DyRdIyEuckagn7TmoG0lnV6y0WSrYXcTujfu0S ImOH0t7fBz8iQWC6NYSCPhTDiJnnU0dDGaUYjIUEvFScBopp4G+gT+hGy/kf/9+QIpn1 LeI0C2E783uzqiaiCDby9DPGg2RjqLp8c64sA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=n+Oz/UPNRjw2wVkKa7u4qOrj7P04nrEw3s7tvt4rT0cKnB+tZktA8ihOoFZCCiLfmN DUrENP1GYBynesSTqdewmkRQ+dOijfR780iRhjz3Xucejnd1YXojdyvAlhcTFSaG6eq9 hHS3C1+fb5rkwJ4O1t19funxGFNakBfFljQ5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:27:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Pawel Janowski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302d4ce2520817049da59896 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:27:40 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302d4ce2520817049da59896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't know much about defretting, but I played a fretless guitar for a while and I know that choice of strings is quite a big factor in playability and sound and it's probably a good idea to think of that before you start the project. Roundwounds can eat into the fretboard (and your fingers if you slide around!), so you might want to either make sure that your fretboard can cope with them or use really light strings (8s/9s). Heavy flatwounds should be easier on your fretboard, but they will sound different and might need a different setup or detuning. I personally tried heavy flatwounds (13s) tuned to D or C# (I don't remember anymore) and light rounds in standard and in the end went with the roundwounds, which I thought were more versatile in terms of sound. I guess a consideration for you will also be the Sustainer and the string type and gauge that will work best with it. On 4 March 2011 09:28, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted > > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you > > defret a guitar a while back Per?). > > > Yes, Kevin. I actually have defretted two. The Telecaster works kind > of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from > the typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of > wood come off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work. > Lots of great hints have been given in this thread already, so I have > nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, that's where I > found guidance when took the leap. > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody wrote: > > I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKQf-JIvRU > > Wow! That instrument is a complicated machine inside. You're looking > at some seriously advanced project. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --20cf302d4ce2520817049da59896 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know much about defretting, but I played a fretless guitar= =A0for a while and I know that choice of strings is quite a big factor in p= layability and sound and it's probably a good idea to think of that bef= ore you start the project.=A0Roundwounds can eat into the fretboard (and yo= ur fingers if you slide around!), so you might want to either make sure tha= t your fretboard can cope with them or use=A0really light strings (8s/9s).= =A0Heavy flatwounds should be easier on your fretboard, but they will=A0sou= nd different and might need a different setup or detuning.=A0
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I personally=A0tried heavy=A0flatwounds (13s)=A0tuned to D=A0or C# (I = don't remember anymore) and light rounds in standard and in the end wen= t with the=A0roundwounds, which I thought were more versatile in terms of s= ound. I guess a consideration for you will also be the Sustainer and the st= ring type and gauge that will work best with it. =A0=A0=A0

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On 4 March 2011 09:28, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
&= lt;billowhead@gmail.com> wro= te:
> Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. =A0I've found the= unfretted
> site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any> tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't yo= u
> defret a guitar a while back Per?).


Yes, Kevin. = I actually have defretted two. The Telecaster works kind
of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from
the= typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of
wood com= e off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work.
Lots of g= reat hints have been given in this thread already, so I have
nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, that's where I
found guidance when = took the leap.


On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody <ringdangdoodled@gmail.com> wro= te:
> I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy...
>
> http:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU

Wow! That instrument is a complicated machine inside. You're = looking
at some seriously advanced project.

Greetings from Sweden=

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.c= om internet music hub


--20cf302d4ce2520817049da59896-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 10:42:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46AE1183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n50AwKnezXl6VDvetbgPvUEsL/zP59lcmOLwmYEtn8k=; b=IiG0AH1TVZTQfciEGS2PfMsRMqs8uWVGLOVXhZDHkcJOHwqhe+oQVzKdkqalx7AgI6 rXoH7DIMVyHtI7789eiabQtV2WetI/3RHTNwjnhsGqVyRCAxOD5p4jHhgs/Tzp0KHrBW uldzOBcYQClwR6MfdkpKM8PftT5OEEqqI1oHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cNQB/wdYvGtGnqjxgFNyImwX6l5wnGCHOYL4VoF9l/6FCnM0BPGVXR20vGOZgzAhxN e3uDT2YX3qst8hMUK15YxYGOl2RgTW2R3ZSslPjYcE2/G3tiDmf7vsCKvii8XpS2HDgn Mgif+EWwwOj4ZZmF60mxKIZmyyjBoo75dUUpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:42:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:42:23 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Pawel Janowski wrote= : > I personally=C2=A0tried heavy=C2=A0flatwounds (13s)=C2=A0tuned to D=C2=A0= or C# (I don't remember > anymore) and light rounds in standard and in the end went with > the=C2=A0roundwounds, which I thought were more versatile in terms of sou= nd. I > guess a consideration for you will also be the Sustainer and the string t= ype > and gauge that will work best with it. I too started out using heavy flatwound jazz strings on my fretless Telecaster. I tuned it dropped to D. Now I have settled with roundwound baritone strings which I tune drop-B. This gives me the best sound and "string vibration performance" so far. My Sustainiac crapped out but with these thick strings I get enough sustain anyway, and I'm enjoying a natural sting attack/decay envelope ;-)) I my guitar wasn't a Telecaster I would go for a magnetic Sustainiac neck pickup. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 12:12:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1474E183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D70D728.4020505@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:12:24 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:12:30 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that > I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me > think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this > > > Go on E-bay and find the most inexpensive fret ripping tool. I think I paid $9 for mine, including shipping. Then go VERY, VERY SLOWLY ...........grab each fret and gently rock it back and forth This is because it's very easy to grab the fretboard wood if you rip quickly. This is what I"ve been told.........I don't know because I haven't had the courage to rip the frets off of my 'sound of god' 3/4 no name bass that I've put shitloads of customization into. I'm gonna do it, though and I have the tool.....lol rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 12:14:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69769183466; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-04_05:2011-03-04,2011-03-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103040052 Message-id: <930872979CDB4E00882E1CDA545A6175@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D70D728.4020505@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:14:07 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) DO IT! t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" Cc: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:12 AM Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that >> I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me >> think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a >> Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted >> site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any >> tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this >> >> >> Go on E-bay and find the most inexpensive fret ripping tool. > I think I paid $9 for mine, including shipping. > > Then go VERY, VERY SLOWLY ...........grab each fret and gently > rock it back and forth > > This is because it's very easy to grab the fretboard wood if you rip > quickly. > > This is what I"ve been told.........I don't know because I haven't had > the courage to > rip the frets off of my 'sound of god' 3/4 no name bass that I've put > shitloads of > customization into. > > I'm gonna do it, though and I have the tool.....lol > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 13:39:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A94183466; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 579291680/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.152/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8CAEN6cE1V0r+Y/2dsb2JhbAAMhB6UPLxFkGmBJ4NEdgSPZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,263,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="579291680" Message-ID: <4D70EB8A.3050405@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:39:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: was now tele fretless OT References: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: So why does the action need to be ultra low? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:05:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B837183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EIc11Yb0Avdn06lDGbH75dA8IKIoP/pw6mg+DnCbIoI=; b=a58aP4qtxpAHy8TGTZ2roTkQcz0MBWwIztyEoz2pvzReLVgEd8J/YEIyhmsRdcF+SJ C3QfHk3o7qfYUu/4/sdlyxYvNuSuVfp50zlxRhHXoEsLKF3NH0qmu8y2//rQ/H8hu2uO lT3Y2+P1Ms1YCBF0Pkx3Lqu6zuql3A6UZMDJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NG+YtfJUmMMZuHQKLoXANiURQnimJ8S16cyiCMB1gCEqry6TTZcpVsX3kVfe4FAIW2 /KGrnXPnVqhHBWDlpWnq0/Xu4HhVb4W00b5JKCA7M1JDXJMMsY6/HFvKza1bztFDxk79 /TIlRB3w5r4sI5o41Zc6kqJ3cpo/C/kd1+lrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D70EB8A.3050405@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70EB8A.3050405@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:05:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was now tele fretless OT From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:05:16 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, andy butler wrote: > So why does the action need to be ultra low? Because if not, notes won't ring very long. Only with ultra low action a fretless guitar becomes "a singing instrument", with less ultra low (!) action it becomes "a clunking instrument". Given you prefer the longer note decay, that is. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:16:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55116183466; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: was now tele fretless OT References: <4D70A906.10800@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70EB8A. 3050405@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <68F4158E-C697-4CC5-B15F-4CB36054CED2@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:15:15 -0500 Thread-Topic: was now tele fretless OT Thread-Index: AcvadpmXHa+vmju4TSGthvaLIkbj9w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2011 14:16:07.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[B42B6510:01CBDA76] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) That may have more to do with string tension than actual action heighth but i= nteresting and the anecdotal evidence I guess important. Seems illogical but= no actual experience on it, will ask Wayne Henderson, going over there next= week.=20 Andy o On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:05 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, andy butler wrote= : >> So why does the action need to be ultra low? >=20 > Because if not, notes won't ring very long. Only with ultra low action > a fretless guitar becomes "a singing instrument", with less ultra low > (!) action it becomes "a clunking instrument". Given you prefer the > longer note decay, that is. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:19:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23CDF183466; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FFg+NjDX4JQyaiR6FDVJPDQTJwW8grC6q0loLKw3njs=; b=dx3TBhxcmKbotwcPwDoFlEngfJX2Mt7BifICPuNwh3v0ropF/1SCpEK+zVeXfDEvIr npMh3lKJTcDlxPLYkgGyCTTu0hBGGKPaWlRn77ToP1tWrve4G8xHqozn3zqvhBKaWgaQ sdBXr/TjabRlC1WHAkg5fVqcULKIFPLgbuJKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p1SAEViXmIme+k70nyGmkGUQ6pO3lkood0KCYRiTmerlNutOs8M3k6T8HvJC0qkAJX CzQnoqA2OMIYXjzeOuFAcC/A/YiIhY1Y/QSeF8hHX3wH1knIwX3VBsphOYuYnbFdF9mn p+piniSBtXguO9N57R1eOfAYfloYt2n3xsD7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <930872979CDB4E00882E1CDA545A6175@NORBY11> References: <4D70D728.4020505@cruzio.com> <930872979CDB4E00882E1CDA545A6175@NORBY11> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 07:19:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:19:03 +0000 (UTC) With this talk about thicker strings working better, I wonder if that's why Godin only offers this in nylon: http://www.godinguitars.com/godinmultnylonfretlessp.htm I tried one in a music shop several year ago, but didn't plug it in -wish I had, now. I have one of these, and its great. http://www.godinguitars.com/godinmultgrconsap.htm k On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Toby G wrote: > DO IT! > > t > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:12 AM > Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar > > >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >>> >>> I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that >>> I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me >>> think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. =A0Its a >>> Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. =A0I've found the unfretted >>> site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any >>> tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this >>> >>> >>> Go on E-bay and find the most inexpensive fret ripping tool. >> >> I think I paid $9 for mine, including shipping. >> >> Then go VERY, VERY SLOWLY ...........grab each fret and gently >> rock it back and forth >> >> This is because it's very easy to grab the fretboard wood if you rip >> quickly. >> >> This is what I"ve been told.........I don't know because I haven't had t= he >> courage to >> rip the frets off of my 'sound of god' =A03/4 no name bass that I've put >> shitloads of >> customization into. >> >> I'm gonna do it, though and I have the tool.....lol >> >> rick walker >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:48:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC79C183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=1CNs7YBA2iyfcdvgeLyDaHRL0Hn8oPtRQ0WN2wNjJno= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=n4F5GE1BsNbRmt0SS5sA:9 a=q2sdgGKyHjIjMPRyZfz_kD9dwKQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:48:07 -0800 References: <4508737A600D426782610052F7714D27@NORBY11> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCA@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30DCC@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Hey there Dood! How's life in the desert with those EDPs? As I sit in front of my computer every morning your artwork hangs directly above the screen. Hi dee ho! Cheers, Ted On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:21 PM, doody wrote: > > > Man this is making me want to get my luthier tools out > again!!! > > Andy o > > I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKQf-JIvRU > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:52:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D4E8183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 515 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:52:00 UTC X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1299250320-0378c307814214e0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.85 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Fretless Guitar Thread-Topic: Fretless Guitar X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Fretless Guitar Thread-Index: AQHL2h7CSIEW9bEwQ0eb5LBDMjuWfJQdQvKA Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:51:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-01.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.85] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1299250320 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Stew-Mac's fret puller is a splendid investment. You will still get some b= reakout but a lot less. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 6:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fretless Guitar I've defretted about 6 guitars. Use 15 minute epoxy if possible. Use a really thin toothpick to get in the slots. It's difficult not to mess up the edge of the fretboard when you pull up, u= nless you can get a good grip on the fret with pliers. You can use wood putty too. On a fretless bass it will be okay because the= fret indentations won't do anything to thick strings. You'll have to file the nut otherwise the intonation will be really messed = up. There will be little sustain with normal guitar strings. Thicker the bette= r. Wounds strings sustain much better. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: OT: Fretless Guitar Hello all, I just realized I have a guitar equipped with sustainer pickups that I'm not likely to be playing much at all as is and something made me think I should pull the frets off to give it another life. Its a Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you defret a guitar a while back Per?). Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 14:53:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68D71183466; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584426974/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.152/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8CAJuLcE1V0r+Y/2dsb2JhbAAMmFrNdYVhBI9m X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,264,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584426974" Message-ID: <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:53:29 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_XmEcD.A.4_.fzPcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >> As I understand it, it's intended to be a way of having a delay >> with feedback, but arranged so that there's no comb effect on >> sustained notes. > > > No, not at all.. it's effect is diffuse an impulse. Try putting one in > the feedback loop of a delay line with a coefficient of about 0.5 and > you'll hear what I mean... The idea is to diffuse *without* comb filtering. Don't know why you're saying "not at all", I'm just repeating reverb 101 there. >> >> >>> I'm not sure that you meant to write "phase dispersion"... >> >> Just meant that different frequencies are delayed by different amounts. >> (Allpass is also used in a phase fx.) > > > It's an entirely different implementation than what you'd typically find > in an analog "phase shifter". :-) I think I can guess that analog is a different implementation to digital. soniq reverb. > It's likely that > the EH "Freeze" uses a series of allpass filters before and after a > fixed delay line. Two sets of allpass? They're all linear processes so order is not important. Or is there some other element involved? Actually, listening to the demos more it doesn't sound so good on complex chords, and it's rather more metallic on some notes than others. Wouldn't be at all surprised if there's some techniques taken from the EH pedals that *do* use granular techniques, used in order to get the sound seamless. Doesn't the Hog have a freeze mode which sounds similar? Anyway, I prefer the sound from the Vortex ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 15:02:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2420A183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1299249804-0378c3078241ea80001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.96 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: OT: Fretless Guitar Thread-Topic: Fretless Guitar X-ASG-Orig-Subj: OT: Fretless Guitar Thread-Index: AQHL2mVySIEW9bEwQ0eb5LBDMjuWfJQdPYiw Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:43:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D672WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-12.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.96] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1299249804 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:02:32 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D672WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chiming in briefly: I've defretted a Casio MG500 and an Ibanez bass. In bot= h cases I used wood filler for the slots; I like having the fret ghosts as = a guide to position. I finished the necks with several applications of poly= urethane. The Casio is now a fretless MIDI guitar, quite fun. I have it tuned down a = whole step from standard tuning as it seemed to me that the defretting some= what compromises the stiffness of the neck (you'll see others talk about th= is on Unfretted, as I recall). I have flatwound strings on it, which I like= , but if you do the toothpicks and superglue job others have described here= , it seems unlikely you would really HAVE to use them. Kevin, your thought that defretting a guitar with a sustainer is a good pro= ject is spot on - I have a Vertigo with sustainer, from ebay, waiting for t= he same treatment when I have the time and money. The sustainer will addres= s, at least in theory, the issue of defretted instruments being sustain-cha= llenged. Let us know how it turns out! Hal Dean On 4 March 2011 09:28, Per Boysen > wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. I've found the unfretted > site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you > defret a guitar a while back Per?). Yes, Kevin. I actually have defretted two. The Telecaster works kind of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from the typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of wood come off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work. Lots of great hints have been given in this thread already, so I have nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, = that's where I found guidance when took the leap. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody > wrote: > I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU Wow! That instrument is a complicated machine inside. You're looking at some seriously advanced project. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D672WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Chiming in briefly: IR= 17;ve defretted a Casio MG500 and an Ibanez bass. In both cases I used wood= filler for the slots; I like having the fret ghosts as a guide to position. I finished the necks with several applications of polyurethan= e.

 <= /p>

The Casio is now a fretle= ss MIDI guitar, quite fun. I have it tuned down a whole step from standard = tuning as it seemed to me that the defretting somewhat compromises the stiffness of the neck (you’ll see others talk about this on Unfr= etted, as I recall). I have flatwound strings on it, which I like, but if y= ou do the toothpicks and superglue job others have described here, it seems= unlikely you would really HAVE to use them.

 <= /p>

Kevin, your thought that = defretting a guitar with a sustainer is a good project is spot on – I= have a Vertigo with sustainer, from ebay, waiting for the same treatment when I have the time and money. The sustainer will address, at l= east in theory, the issue of defretted instruments being sustain-challenged= . Let us know how it turns out!

 <= /p>

Hal Dean


 

On 4 March 2011 09:28, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 a= t 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com> wr= ote:
> Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters.  I've found the unfrett= ed
> site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any > tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you
> defret a guitar a while back Per?).

Yes, Kevin. I actually have defretted two. The Telec= aster works kind
of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from
the typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of
wood come off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work.
Lots of great hints have been given in this thread already, so I have
nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, that's where I
found guidance when took the leap.



On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody <ringdangdoodled@gmail.com> wrote:
> I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU

Wow! That instrument = is a complicated machine inside. You're looking
at some seriously advanced project.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com= internet music hub

 

--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D672WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 15:04:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F64183473; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 844 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:04:10 UTC X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1299250205-0368bc2b5345bbf0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.93 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Thread-Topic: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Thread-Index: AQHL2nenLZyHOP+exkOtBfvaijCnYpQdQMng Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 14:50:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D68CWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-09.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.93] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1299250205 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:04:10 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D68CWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todds, Apologies to one and thanks to the other. How weird that Walker's rave and = the TF sale were in the same digest! I'm in a serious "cycling through peda= ls" phase and following closely any discussion about them here, since is po= pulated with such discerning folks. I'm appreciative of all the reviews. Hal From: todd reynolds [mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 no worries, first come first serve, as it should be... enjoy it Hal! On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: Todd! Hal Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time you sent this email. I w= ould have totally sold to you had I known you needed one. Sorry :( On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: I should have written the prices for dollars marks. All prices are in US do= allrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, and $350 for the Rang3.= How Geo-self-centered of me! -Todd Matthews On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: hello, I could be interested in the Timefactor. Where are you located, I am in Fra= nce. how much do you want for it? Antony ________________________________ From: Todd Matthews > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first= dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking = amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I ha= ve velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leave th= e velcro on or put the rubber feet back depending on your setup.. I'm selli= ng to finance some real nice recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD an= d as much as I'd like to keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup cras= hes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purcha= ses happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc. 250- Timefactor 250- M9 350 for the Boomerang Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't= hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay. -Todd Matthews Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is rel= eased on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is schedule= d for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there= . * also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe K= eating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newl= y added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D68CWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Todds,<= /p>

 <= /p>

Apologies to one and than= ks to the other. How weird that Walker’s rave and the TF sale were in= the same digest! I’m in a serious “cycling through pedals̶= 1; phase and following closely any discussion about them here, since is populated w= ith such discerning folks. I’m appreciative of all the reviews.<= /o:p>

 <= /p>

Hal

 <= /p>

From: todd rey= nolds [mailto:toddreyn@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:05 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3

 

no worries,  fir= st come first serve, as it should be... enjoy it Hal! 

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

Todd! Hal Dean just pay pal'ed me at the same time y= ou sent this email. I would have totally sold to you had I known you needed= one. Sorry :(

 

 

On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote:



Save that timefactor for me for a few minutes?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:=

I should have written the prices for dollars marks. = All prices are in US doallrs: $250 for the Timefactor and also for the M9, = and $350 for the Rang3. How Geo-self-centered of me!

 

-Todd Matthews

On Mar 3, 2011, at 1:32 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:



hello,

 

I could be interested in the Timefactor. = Where are you located, I am in France. how much do you want for it?

 

Antony

 

From:<= /span> Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 7:30:25 PM
Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 

I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give first= dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are freaking = amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect condition but I ha= ve velcro on the bottom so they attached to my pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber f= eet back depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice re= cording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to keep t= his rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns..... this is the only way I'll make the recording = gear purchases happen. I have the boxes, manuals, etc. 

250- Timefactor
250- M9
350 for the Boomerang

Paypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same day. If I don't= hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go ahead toss em on ebay.<= br>

-Todd Matthews




 

 

 

Todd Matthews

 

 

 

 

Todd Matthews<= /span>

 <= /p>

 

 




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• Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and = is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th.  The CD Release party = is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room.  I'd be delighted t= o have you there. 

 

• also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poi= sson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th!  first show sold out= , tix still available for the newly added show. 


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--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF02D68CWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 15:07:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA0E0183481; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1299251244-0368bc2b55460c00001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.94 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Sorting out the good stuff Thread-Topic: Sorting out the good stuff X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Sorting out the good stuff Thread-Index: AQHL2h7CRnbG/f/faku4B4/Jqpj1AZQdRBHg Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:07:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-10.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.94] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1299251244 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Funny, I've been reading "Arcana", a book of musicians writing about music = edited by Zorn. Frith's entry consists of a compendium of diary entries, i= n one of which he talks about how critics of improvisational music sometime= s complain they have to sit through boring passages before things get excit= ing. But the notion that the exciting parts can be identified in advance, p= racticed, and focused on in performance is precisely what makes for clich= =E9s. This may differ from what you're asking about, in the sense that your loope= d recordings may not be absolutely "real-time". If they are like my simila= r trove, they are a mix of the real-time on-the-fly and the "Ah, that sound= s cool, let us now search a bit for the next way to monkey with it, and the= n add or subtract or whatever accordingly" approach. In the latter case on= e is already editing, maybe heavily. I've paraphrased Frith here, but his conclusion is pretty much "the rough s= pots seem somehow necessary to explain the good bits." Inasmuch as I too have a lot of loops on a hard drive that I occasionally c= all up for editing and assembling into larger pieces, I'll be very curious = to hear what people say. I've spent some time importing Mobius loops into A= 'ton Live and using Live's kit of warping tools to make variations. I have = rarely found the results remarkable, but I chalk that up to a lack of time = spent REALLY learning Live and focusing on this technique. =20 Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:billowhead@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Sorting out the good stuff A few days back I think, someone mentioned that they play a ton and then go= back and sort out the good stuff from all the hours of sound to make an al= bum (or something to that effect). I was wondering how they managed to do = that (sorry, can't remember who said that or when exactly). I've got hundreds of hours of looped recordings, some an hour or more singl= e take. And there are some truly amazing spots in there. And there are so= me VERY rough spots as well, things that embarrass me me when I say I'm a g= uitarist rough. But I find, I have a really hard time excising the 'good' = bits from the flow of things because the rough spots seem somehow necessary= to explain the good bits. Or finding when exactly to come in to the good = stuff. Edit too soon and it seems kind of lost and aimless, edit too late = and you wonder that anyone would ever listen past the first minute of nonse= nse. So I'm just wondering, for all the people who do the play and play and play= and grab the good bits later, how do you decide? Do you have a strategy o= r plan in place before you listen? Just curious and not at all sure its really a serious question or just rhet= orical but I will throw it out anyway. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a for= m. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/us= er877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 15:12:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13AFF18348E; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=aldHl53HYMXKvR9UYtBpnhPkbUpBVZimhdKcLQav4LI=; b=el412KzT+Q09EDvErgipjlW+gQChFAktymrYbIZStuJOFY1/iT6S3UrCPdXo4qev8h Kifu/KYvMBsiRtVOEp3g4V0nz/9XHPO7TmsOJsoqmM3qNJcvMaJpoG9YTtF4ZRqa0/Qg YAkymLTUXR/ogQOIsYiEH+qY4xtEcPBjWno4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Z34LUk2kOLvj49AZRBnHRluLIHuLIsmpFaR2aWScxPQ/lZi6HYiZFqdgSubtRBSYgw x89UcqGZsq8PCMVkiI8qUVOKB4uxV6vCxIpExfz3qEvhAfO7Th9s3Ax5fn1SHTH91Exg GmLjNtK6t9ItmhXBKijdpy3OfQFKw6OpFv+Vg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:12:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G5dGAySMsgPVKlRQqwU5dEAbO3Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306845f704ccc2049da9941f Resent-Message-ID: <115hSC.A.vpB.4FQcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) --20cf306845f704ccc2049da9941f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, andy butler wrote: > Anyway, I prefer the sound from the Vortex ;-) > > andy > Im so glad you said that Andy! Now I dont have to buy a freeze... however, After Jeff requesting I post my Vortex settings, I have to admit,that when I re-visited my patch, I realised that it wasnt quite as good as I thought, and WAS quite er.. loopy sounding, as in too long. Attepts to make the loop a bit shorter kinda failed.. Ehem.. Care to share YOUR settings? ;-O m -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf306845f704ccc2049da9941f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
Anyway, I prefer the sound from the Vortex ;-)

andy

Im so glad you said that Andy! Now I= dont have to buy a freeze... however, After Jeff requesting I post my Vort= ex settings, I have to admit,that when I re-visited my patch, I realised th= at it wasnt quite as good as I thought, and WAS quite er.. loopy sounding, = as in too long. Attepts to make the loop a bit shorter kinda failed..

Ehem.. Care to share YOUR settings?

;-O

m
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--20cf306845f704ccc2049da9941f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:03:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B63D183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <26827930.7490.1299254018771.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <26827930.7490.1299254018771.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: Fretless Guitar Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:03:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:03:24 +0000 (UTC) I've been thinking of having my custom archtop guitar made fretless. We have two of the finest fretless players here in Boise, Ned Evitt being one of them, who tours all over the nation. We use one luthier here, who is a perfectionist at it and has mastered it long ago. He puts glass on them. They sound amazing. The other guy just leaves the fretboard wood, because for jazz it sounds more natural...so it is akin to the fretboard of a cello or something. I'll probably just go with the wood. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:21:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B117183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584464481/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.152/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8CALOgcE1V0r+Y/2dsb2JhbAAMmFrOD4VhBI9m X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,264,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584464481" Message-ID: <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 16:21:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:21:51 +0000 (UTC) > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > Anyway, I prefer the sound from the Vortex ;-) mark francombe wrote: > Im so glad you said that Andy! Now I dont have to buy a freeze... > > Ehem.. Care to share YOUR settings? > ahh, found it in an old mail. Haven't tried this one for ages, think I may have been aiming for a swirly sound rather than a static freeze. Don't remember if I had a particular tap time that I used with it. Here it is:- Play in A then use pedal to morph and trap the sound. but be careful, sound depends a lot on how you work the ped SWEEP A MOSAIC A MIX 64 64 OUTPUT 64 64 MODFX 64 64 ECHO LVL 35 1 MORPH PEDAL ENV 1 1 ECHO 1% 3 3 ECHO 2% 2 5 FBK 1 18 64 FBK 2 43 64 RATE1 6 6 DEPTH1 48 64 RES1 28 1 RATE2 22 22 DEPTH2 9 9 RES2 1 43 do comment if it doesn't do what you need andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:24:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF50E183463; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 or M9 Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:24:17 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA89FBE8AA313-11FC-51CB@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:24:42 +0000 (UTC) thanks richard and rick....."slice and dice" is really not a big issue=20 to me NOW.....richard, if i create a 5 sec. loop can i also create a 4=20 sec. loop and play the two together and have that evolving loop then play?.....after i posted my first question, i had the thought, why=20 not get an M9 and have all the firepower (fx).....thoughts????.....keep=20 in mind, i am a RANG lover!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:28:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8343A18345F; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:27:46 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA8A03A99C071-11FC-5327@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:28:04 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:30 pm Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give=20 first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are=20 freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect=20 condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my=20 pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back=20 depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice=20 recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to=20 keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns.....=20 this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I=20 have the boxes, manuals, etc. 250- Timefactor250- M9350 for the=20 BoomerangPaypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same=20 day. If I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go=20 ahead toss em on ebay.-Todd Matthews =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:28:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C1D183464; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:27:38 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA8A035D49D10-11FC-5317@webmail-d099.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:28:09 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 1:30 pm Subject: FS: Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 I'm going to sell my Timefactor, M9 and Rang 3 and I thought I'd give=20 first dibs here before I Craigslist/Ebay them. All of these pedals are=20 freaking amazing if your into hardware looping and are in perfect=20 condition but I have velcro on the bottom so they attached to my=20 pedalboard. I could leave the velcro on or put the rubber feet back=20 depending on your setup.. I'm selling to finance some real nice=20 recording gear as I discussed earlier on LD and as much as I'd like to=20 keep this rig in case my laptop looping setup crashes and burns.....=20 this is the only way I'll make the recording gear purchases happen. I=20 have the boxes, manuals, etc. 250- Timefactor250- M9350 for the=20 BoomerangPaypal me at this email address and I'll ship them the same=20 day. If I don't hear anything here in the next couple days I'll go=20 ahead toss em on ebay.-Todd Matthews =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 16:49:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E5E5183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:49:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/nB9h2Hh9RZLo10Ukbpi+Z89uSFj/Jcb//mG/2WFTrQ=; b=trBy1KnvU09pSR/RPU3DlVfpQYxaII5dWdArA8JZQgVFPRct4YGwiTw3dJWlGfykUt DqBlEHTqNtJfH9waBhFYuhA6zKYA7MaIJqKiCja/jrLhyBsSKM1txkPwxuJbjeSBLVM9 gUCgXrBv3BuZDY9WfdVF0Ko3MvTGFqYI3J4cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fJIhb8v7D6cvkyNkXmjjhVwwOg1xNZ6QOWb64n8f2V9iCYcCZO+VA1hFltXspTKAq/ ASn1kBAxhMHvwsjBhyTGukrqFlhoH+GpvW60+td3D89ugZD9icO+YHlEEcugDF8moSmV +B4lfBLRd3NY+e9EyLjmnXnMPq7cAOKwrfwn4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Fretless Guitar From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_4my_C.A.-YE.KgRcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:49:14 +0000 (UTC) I defretted a cheap-ass fake telecaster I picked up at a yard sale by pulling hard on the frets with a pair of pliers. I filled the fret holes with some dupont plastic wood compound that you can sand and paint like wood once it dires. I used the neck to build a cigar box guitar, so I wasn't too concerned with things like precision or tuning... Sylvain On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Chiming in briefly: I=92ve defretted a Casio MG500 and an Ibanez bass. In= both > cases I used wood filler for the slots; I like having the fret ghosts as = a > guide to position. I finished the necks with several applications of > polyurethane. > > > > The Casio is now a fretless MIDI guitar, quite fun. I have it tuned down = a > whole step from standard tuning as it seemed to me that the defretting > somewhat compromises the stiffness of the neck (you=92ll see others talk = about > this on Unfretted, as I recall). I have flatwound strings on it, which I > like, but if you do the toothpicks and superglue job others have describe= d > here, it seems unlikely you would really HAVE to use them. > > > > Kevin, your thought that defretting a guitar with a sustainer is a good > project is spot on =96 I have a Vertigo with sustainer, from ebay, waitin= g for > the same treatment when I have the time and money. The sustainer will > address, at least in theory, the issue of defretted instruments being > sustain-challenged. Let us know how it turns out! > > > > Hal Dean > > > > On 4 March 2011 09:28, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> Korean Kramer Strat copy if that matters. =A0I've found the unfretted >> site and it looks straightforward but I thought I might ask for any >> tips any of you might have before I go ahead with this (didn't you >> defret a guitar a while back Per?). > > Yes, Kevin. I actually have defretted two. The Telecaster works kind > of ok but the other one had an old Schecter neck and I suffered from > the typical issue with doing fret job on old instruments; parts of > wood come off when you remove old frets. So this neck needs more work. > Lots of great hints have been given in this thread already, so I have > nothing to add. Just read up well on unfretted.com, that's where I > found guidance when took the leap. > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:21 AM, doody wrote: >> I got the plans to build a hurdy-gurdy... >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoZKQf-JIvRU > > Wow! That instrument is a complicated machine inside. You're looking > at some seriously advanced project. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:01:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CABE6183465; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Calton cases Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-975756359 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:00:19 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <4939E21B-5738-4153-A3C9-7D669BB30223@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <1aQHuD.A.OuE.MrRcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:01:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-975756359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Damn. 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david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-7-975756359-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:01:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5FA118347A; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Calton cases Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <82071D1F-E81B-468A-A17C-E43F6DF2D59C@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:01:35 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <09384AF5-25C1-46C5-8FBE-0208971FFD87@trufun.com> References: <82071D1F-E81B-468A-A17C-E43F6DF2D59C@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Contact info for Jeff Traugott, please? On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:45 PM, William Walker wrote: > This is good to know, i actually inquired about 3 weeks ago about = ordering a case for my weissenborn copy and he got right back to me and = said the lead time was 9 weeks, which I thought was a bit long unless = but i had heard from the builder of my guitar that he had had difficulty = getting stuff out of him. I'm sorry about your travails David. It makes = me think he's in financial difficulty or something. One guy you might = give a call to is Jeff Traugott who may have some insight as he orders = the majority of his cases from Calton. > good luck > Bill >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:30:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0C6618347F; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <127DFA98-A630-4AA4-BC69-37BC5A796BA9@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-977560574 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: re: Timefactor Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:30:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:30:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-977560574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to sell my Timefactor, 250- Timefactor Doh!!!!! note to self, next time I get GAS I should contact the list first and save some $$$$$$$ Rats! PS that being said it was worth every penny, I don't know why i waited so long. the sound quality is dazzling. --Apple-Mail-1-977560574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to sell my = Timefactor, 
250-= Timefactor


Doh!!!!! note to self, next time I get GAS I should = contact the list first and save some $$$$$$$ = Rats!



PS = that being said it was worth every penny,  I don't know why i = waited so long. the sound quality is = dazzling.
= --Apple-Mail-1-977560574-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:32:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDFE9183460; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 87170 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 17:32:13 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5E2x7M4BN8ifZ7mKLpl2apiSdSD7x3Zc9cw7NnVU0uY= c=1 sm=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=N6R0IjU39RJB5phyGN4A:9 a=QlgMkynayiXNvnaWCisA:7 a=rpojKMhbhtLVjYs33T7uUj2b-cwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=C5C49UfCHWx0x1zB:21 a=d-lfmfxbzUOXorj3:21 a=1mPEbzcIwNq/5QazqZV7BA==:117 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:32:13 -0500 (EST) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1957173018.5802269.1299259933370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 or M9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 41 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:32:14 +0000 (UTC) If you are a fan of the original Rang, then the Rang III will fit more in your comfort zone than the M9, as a primary looper, IMO. I picked up a used original Rang a few years ago, from a shop that was closing. They had lost the power supply, so i got it cheap. Got a power supply for it and started playing. I enjoyed it very much, except it needed a bit of work on scratchy jacks and pots, which i never did, and the fidelity was a little dark. I ended up paying it forward and giving it away to an aspiring looper, who enjoyed it immensely. The 'fun factor' however, was the driving force for me getting the Rang III. Yes! you can do what you ask. The two major modes in the RIII are Serial and Free, and in basic setup, you have 3 loops to work with. In Serial mode, each loop will play after the next. So if you record loop 1, and then start recording loop 2, loop 1 will stop, and you begin recording loop 2. You could end your loop 2 by hitting the loop 2 button, which will continue looping loop 2, or you could end your loop 2 recording by hitting loop 1 again, which would end loop 2, and loop 1 would beging playing again. Make sense? This sets you up for verse/chorus/bridge type songwriting. In Free mode, the loops will play together, irregardless of when you started them. This would be the scenario you described. Record your 5 second loop on loop 1, then record your 4 second loop on loop 2. They will then continue to play polyrhythmically. Loop 3 is still open for another loop, as well. Now...the next 'mode' in the Rang is the Sync mode, which is triggered by you, the player, by selecting which loop gets recorded first. If you start with loop 1 or loop 2, everything operates as i just described...either in free/layer mode, or serial mode. However, IF you do your first loop on Loop 3, then the Rang switches into Sync mode, and things operate a bit differently. In Serial 'Sync', Loop 3 is recorded first, and that becomes the rhythmic/tempo baseline for the other two loops to be based off of. for example, record a short rhythmic loop on loop 3 (one bar). Now you have the same SERIAL type function (one loop after another) with loop 1 and 2, but they are 'slaves' to the one bar loop length of Loop 3. Loops 1 and 2 will be multiples of Loop 3, either 1x 2x, 3x, 4x, 8x, whatever.... As you near the end of the where you would close the loop, then you tap to close it, but it will remain open until the master loop comes around to the top and then closes your slave loop recording. This is kindof like how Ableton will record and end loops in tempo with the beat (and bar setting). You don't have to end the loop exactly on the measure, you just tell it you want it to close and it happens on the downbeat of the next measure. In Free 'Sync', it operates in the same way, where loops 1 and 2 are still 'slaves' to multiples of loop 3, but loops 1 and 2 are able to layer on top of each other. As well, there is an optional behavior of having a Loop 4, but it steals away one of the footbuttons, which i've got setup to do other things. 3 loops is enough to rattle my meager skills, anyway. Right now, my Rang is setup thusly, with the bonus buttons. Bonus 1 Tap: Overdub. Record any loop, tap bonus 1, and then as you close the loop, it's in instant overdub. Bonus 1 Hold: Erase. Holding this button allows you to select any 'non playing' loop to erase. When no loops are playing, it erases ALL loops. Bonus 2 Tap: Stop or Play All. This will stop all loops. Hitting this bonus when everthing is stopped plays all loops again in unsynced mode. In synced, it will play the master and whatever single slave loop you choose. Bonus 2 Hold: Fade. this will begin a fade of any playing loops. its a variable setting, and i have mine set to a medium/long fade. This is a fantastic feature and allows the Rang to become organic and mutating, rather than the abrubt start/stop of, say, the DL4. Used in conjunction with another looper, it's uber cool, because you can hit one switch and the whole structure starts to fade out, and will automatically stop when it reaches the end of the fade. So you have a great thing happening with the Rang....then start to fade, but keep playing and possibly looping on the M9 (that is before the Rang) and you can get a whole new ball of wax developing while the Rang is fading out stuff, and you don't have to worry about it...it will just stop. So...let it stop. then Hold bonus 1 and delete all the previous loops, and you can record your new input coming from the M9, and keep on truckin'... hope that helps. i'm still learning with this thing, but it sure is a blast to play so far... rich On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:24 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > thanks richard and rick....."slice and dice" is really not a big issue > to me NOW.....richard, if i create a 5 sec. loop can i also create a 4 > sec. loop and play the two together and have that evolving loop > > then play?.....after i posted my first question, i had the thought, > why not get an M9 and have all the firepower > (fx).....thoughts????.....keep in mind, i am a RANG lover!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C42B183461; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: OT: A must see, must hear Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:16:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Amazing! How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take for the performer to pull this off? http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XKRj-T4l-e8 Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:46:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36BD1183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=wHXCRmcc3rmSePqiHue/AEI6eRgyeKDnUoE2rR8Ck+U=; b=N/+vrakJwmpLwLD5XszBX4jzgiHXaDO6qmwV8RawnWpY1ZDil1tRmklMoppDGyLkJo iRTVtrvqOuh/P2szXbeQDCqV/J7HHKAyL2kIMs0GPQgP2gtW0EvIF58Fb6i/hS9UH2HY IXGaqW9BaBpuRoYl36Cw3i4PhtM6/SPRrgjiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=mSK2bbsGrtYaQfXU/C1w6XLQhn7GaTFLzJvERIz1gS3rt49DsnGGMrA5b+xxpT+1Vd +yUQyaxivmEyYQzDrMl1TrrkK/7XgKgjM630GMwnBZ9de05Cg+HKPu7AGNBaMfmRaWQr 9GNUbxZ4CozsDC2qj6L1+FeysneKNqftX3/Oo= Subject: Re: Timefactor References: <127DFA98-A630-4AA4-BC69-37BC5A796BA9@baymoon.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-978494807 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <127DFA98-A630-4AA4-BC69-37BC5A796BA9@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <9E5DA1D4-F76F-4BFF-B4D8-968EE30D584B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:45:55 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:46:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12-978494807 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My pitch factor has been a dream.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:30 PM, William Walker wrote: > I'm going to sell my Timefactor,=20 > 250- Timefactor >=20 >=20 > Doh!!!!! note to self, next time I get GAS I should contact the list first= and save some $$$$$$$ Rats! >=20 >=20 >=20 > PS that being said it was worth every penny, I don't know why i waited so= long. the sound quality is dazzling. --Apple-Mail-12-978494807 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
My pitch factor has been a dream. =

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250- Timefactor

Doh!!!!! note to self, next time I get GAS= I should contact the list first and save some $$$$$$$ Rats!



PS that bein= g said it was worth every penny,  I don't know why i waited so long. th= e sound quality is dazzling.
= --Apple-Mail-12-978494807-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 17:51:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49B0218347B; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qLq9UZipobB3zgmAirXt62Y+oZce0u44sqOP/1HoTLo=; b=wXqjXAU+On3XuP3gcT6Lbz94LJkY+rYut6TYeO+GEBANDltKEoE4LN1C0BCnQNtmHh 9lmYWbTOGisENXvOp1Loq14WWtslm1QHnFa/irMjRyTbFXLfBvo4yV6n2BYBWd+pdqC1 ZrtyOCMQeAez2XWsz1yc6KTGQTy2MIJboFLiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E1/vY1mufj/O4Xc3La9I5IVA6RcazFe2s6dcqZUuOT00kDXSxuDIUvMPVArhgC6lEM syBjlZh/D35lT4akLNH8YgfSG8LObY9Jg3yeNLM8TPojUH1FVmxytXv2lJvYSmv7tcdn Rd13HDy0yAXH+C5TapSyYUVdjXPRN9GDK1YvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:51:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sorting out the good stuff From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) There's a good chance that was me. That's how I made my last 3 cds. When I first listen to a show recording, I listen to it in my audio editor. At this step, I listen to the entire show, and copy everything that sounds like a song into a new file. At this step, I'm not concerned with quality or whether it's a final edit. The file names include the date (yyyy-mm-dd), venue, a letter representing the order in the set and usually a short aesthetic description of the track. (For example "2009-8-11 Joes Bar A - Spongy Drone.wav") The next step is to listen to the tracks from several shows on shuffle play over the range of about 2 months. This gives me an idea of which tracks contain album-worthy music. I'll put those tracks in a sub-folder. With me, that will be about 1/3 as many tracks as I started with. For a typical Matt cd, that's about 20 tracks. I'll continue listening to the tracks in the subfolder. This is when I start trying to get a sense of what makes a good "starting cd" song, "middle cd" song, and "ending cd" song. At some point, I'll actually open up my CD editor tool. I use Sony CD Architect, which I really like. It works almost like multitracking software, except it allows you to determine exactly when CD track markers are. I start with the track I determined to be my "Starting Track". At that point, I know where I want the edit point to be for my "Starting Track". I'll listen to the end of the starting track, and play several of the other tracks afterwards, to try to get a good fit. The edit start points for my other tracks often depend on how they flow from the previous song. When working on the cd program, that's when I do the most critical listening of the tracks I like. Several "Good" tracks take too long to develop. I often wind up editing out large chunks out of the middle of tracks to take out the areas where I find myself waiting for the next thing to happen. Fortunately with looping music, that's fairly easy. If you place the two wave forms of the same track parallel to each other, you can often see the looping points. It's fairly easy to take out a few loop cycles, and crossfade between the wav files as your edit. My "Living Things" cd has several cases where 11 minute tracks were brought down to 6 minute tracks. Once I have a rough cut, I give a few copies of the draft to people I think both understand what I'm trying to do, and will be the most honest critics. I ask them to give it a close listen, and let me know of any parts where they find themselves: A) trying to ignore an element B) waiting for the next thing to happen C) unpleasantly distracted by something that happened. I then make the final draft based on their notes. So, some thoughts on the above: --If a track's start point is actually in the middle of a fairly long transition (from the performance recording), consider using a sudden start rather than a fade-in. Sometimes the "transition out" of the previous track will sound a little like a preamble or development, when you listen to the clip outside of its original performance context. --When it comes to editing, I'm not worried about hurting my own feelings. I'm pretty merciless. Don't use ANY tracks where you find yourself trying to tune out any elements. (Such as "This sounds great if you imagine that the rhythm isn't too loud".) If you can't fix it, don't put it on the cd. --I wind up not using lots of work I'm really proud of because I could not find a way to take out the elements I didn't like. --Sometimes perfectly good tracks don't make it to CD, simply because I couldn't find a good place for them to fit with the other tracks. (And in some cases because they didn't fit with the aesthetic theme of the cd.) --Sometimes I'll use a 30 to 60 second clip from the "reject bin" to serve as a transition between two tracks. (On my "SoftWetFish" cd, that track actually got radio airplay!) --Kevin, you mentioned that on some of your tracks you feel that the "rough" areas are necessary to explain the good bits. I'd suggest taking a clip where you cut out the rough areas, and listen to that clip by itself for a while. You might find it does ok on its own. That's one thing I learned from pop music. Most pop music doesn't spend too much time setting the stage - it just jumps right in. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt Kevin Cheli-Colando went: > A few days back I think, someone mentioned that they play a ton and > then go back and sort out the good stuff from all the hours of sound > to make an album (or something to that effect). =A0I was wondering how > they managed to do that (sorry, can't remember who said that or when > exactly). > > I've got hundreds of hours of looped recordings, some an hour or more > single take. =A0And there are some truly amazing spots in there. =A0And > there are some VERY rough spots as well, things that embarrass me me > when I say I'm a guitarist rough. =A0But I find, I have a really hard > time excising the 'good' bits from the flow of things because the > rough spots seem somehow necessary to explain the good bits. =A0Or > finding when exactly to come in to the good stuff. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2249183486; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b0c2be05-965c-4144-b6ec-45f723906a33_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:18:21 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2011 18:18:21.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B2282D0:01CBDA98] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:18:22 +0000 (UTC) --_b0c2be05-965c-4144-b6ec-45f723906a33_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With eight channels of sampling and effects and crazy crossfader and trigle= ss trig stuff the Octatrack is a VERY diffrent beast.. Here I'm usin it as = alooper of sorts=2C i sample and resample since it has eight track i can st= ack stuff and replace stuff and to somethings a looper cant... according to= Elektron there will be a proper looping machine later this spring but what= is there is deeper than most loopers or samplers and it can be used for li= ve experimental looping=2C perhaps not as good for building live backings..= .. yet.. if you don't want youre backings to be experimental than it's GRAT A soloway Swan Guitar into a V-stack Tweedy (amp sim) into Octatrack into = recorder. No effects ot anything just "live" plying on guitar and Octatrack= .. I had some stuff like pitchshifting=2C delays and more mapped to the Cro= ssfader so i can kind of play the pitch on some of the tracks... COOL (migh= t sound strange) some trigless trigs on some track to=2C among other thing= =2C shift pitch=2C revers and stuff..=20 The OT VERY FUN to play with and sort of musical.. need to practice a lot m= ore but there is potential in this machine... http://soundcloud.com/...rgdah...guitar-odyssey THE "LIVE" guitar is a "through" machine I also use a trig recorder to pitc= h shift the live guitar with trigless trigs.. (in left chanel)=20 So what du you think???=20 =20 Regards=2C =20 Anders = --_b0c2be05-965c-4144-b6ec-45f723906a33_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With eight channels of sampling and effects and crazy crossfader and trigle= ss trig stuff the Octatrack is a VERY diffrent beast.. Here I'm usin it as = alooper of sorts=2C i sample and resample since it has eight track i can st= ack stuff and replace stuff and to somethings a looper cant... according to= Elektron there will be a proper looping machine later this spring but what= is there is deeper than most loopers or samplers and it can be used for li= ve experimental looping=2C perhaps not as good for building live backings..= .. yet.. if you don't want youre backings to be experimental than it's GRAT=
 =3BA soloway Swan Guitar into a V-stack Tweedy (amp sim) into Octatrac= k into recorder. No effects ot anything just "live" plying on guitar and Oc= tatrack.. I had some stuff like pitchshifting=2C delays and more mapped to = the Crossfader so i can kind of play the pitch on some of the tracks... COO= L (might sound strange) some trigless trigs on some track to=2C among other= thing=2C shift pitch=2C revers and stuff..
The OT VERY FUN to play wit= h and sort of musical.. need to practice a lot more but there is potential = in this machine...
http://soundcloud.com/...r= gdah...guitar-odyssey
THE "LIVE" guitar is a "through" machin= e I also use a trig recorder to pitch shift the live guitar with trigless t= rigs.. (in left chanel)

So what du you think???
 =3B
Regards=2C
 =3B
Anders
= --_b0c2be05-965c-4144-b6ec-45f723906a33_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:24:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B11183492; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EShvgSjqj9W7QVFHWhV13PyBy2Tqk4O26gqiUcbJqfQ=; b=MxXZjVsLjg35jKvpODV3DIW9X1NPvkaNckohWel7Q4clcHiUWjtwXacQbFrgu2GYMu x6FWkXL5K7BO0GId7ZKJzdfJlQA2Rblacei1BHyDwGHM6PxmDhJdLC1zE6YdXFRJMbP2 4OWwhtiCjp8bhoqJm1k3Qt+VjlbRLf9Ygw4Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fPAUrAu3jLmXLrM/o1abGmDXeh+fuRbLDywdffDXdfFIllKHjqWNh4MZiPL44GvIF2 rZbkQ6e4BoOgJgrmIz80nOcGs4U+OKtgF54GeChNFg8+xWwbboGjtyadW6zV75mPyoXa ftA6yn9xcSe1aM3jRMw6DdcBe7x4y5NE8MGm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> References: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:24:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: A must see, must hear From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) I wonder how many glasses got knocked over in learning. Impressive stuff to be sure. Kevin On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Revfever wrote: > Amazing! =A0How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take for t= he > performer to pull this off? > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=3DXKRj-T4l-e8 > > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland,OR > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:24:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D4A183480; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=LJkYAZ04QLdTnlO8LN0Nn1FKpfE8JIwBgs5gDm57ARA=; b=CRRV0byOezaMvhf/q3m8CI7vMPurjqgzIYxBI/Rk+G9seq3lNodX074BI4mpMNCkqP dVbegivFTFKWdKf1FbIUVTYEa3ji2PSOP9trl+7Upp0QVbjZVTjAqnmq80u6/RB3j10X z6N2M04+nY+6nr1fYz4QjYAnGxpLyT4ohLUpk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=NiCh7cSiJW5HPoUf4JZB9IXiMhUivFEYTODn+I/EAf1ngBIWMwgVFKg4ZApr83rmtP DvMKtJn/Wmjf/DNKLOJQU6+EL1hMhORtgqgGCEUg2rYXqNdqTLUTI6sUy4E3/COvKLr8 LjAneYZsrsyab4kgLXmSgUiHcHTWzVhSB4Nm8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Timefactor From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <9E5DA1D4-F76F-4BFF-B4D8-968EE30D584B@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:24:33 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <12561BDE-7AF1-4B0F-B94F-C7179D8498BC@gmail.com> References: <127DFA98-A630-4AA4-BC69-37BC5A796BA9@baymoon.com> <9E5DA1D4-F76F-4BFF-B4D8-968EE30D584B@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <331vEC.A.OyG.k5ScNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:36 +0000 (UTC) I agree. That's the one I can't go without. On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > My pitch factor has been a dream. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:30:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2F5B183479; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299263413; bh=SB0G1quTqYt4qw9esFypP/hNsJGZFcp2iZ/FoRFFx5c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TrroJgtd5eDo8iIuzJTutB7xqh28Wx78iX9LubnbS5nz8C3PKTBNOPxrk1onc1P8l6Y6xrcq3itXwn/dTXe4sCZ2Yj6Byqc6Ss5bvipq6iO5osEvv/XKZ9mqAjq1QFG4fdBftJvmQxAOHesA9DyyhD4fMNOLEoLNpwZdtd85zxQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=27VSAhCFdVB4tQwlDNv5/hnJE0bPpeVj/jN9qgXPdhif/TaZsfyH0/TpBPRHf46+E+hEy3IIaptPUH/EGsc4tvQOBYM8KNV/88ISse+XnVRPzVdsRfIyL6Z9t7AgiOznyRd6XpD8LhSjXI1ijbH6G0A93eCynNYJe+4oM6jJDkg=; Message-ID: <373263.33811.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: P2nFMa4VM1ln6YE3BuXoL7E2I0NT4EFJBSPwTHJgrrtAXmx s6RA7rkkmJNQwiPHm1HMG6LEATnLL.UafEjCcLb073NpV1kQcwQuBS3NuNqD V276nliDWpQIrPuwV6DTLQR3jxX.3mRP1l7.vNVb8bCEmOpY4npA8qxn5VxX Fop2tsl.IHpwJBHWo6FEhJJ8BLxpeTKKEogoxRhVe7hoYf8SRn5Qd375SgDs qznygOmxOMNUgVCBpCHxHkGffeLTpkraAM5CBqcUWqWdN1um3hTQKDGvQ8If dVxOSxWGEVV_8a_CmbR7emByWsz5NmScJy7_G6V8OdewMO3HPZ0upr0mJCYS m X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Timefactor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <12561BDE-7AF1-4B0F-B94F-C7179D8498BC@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-671957194-1299263413=:33811" Resent-Message-ID: <99JGWC.A.M7G.2-ScNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:30:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-671957194-1299263413=:33811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ahhhh....dream. I am lusting after my Eventide Space module that I placed an early order on. Man, those reverbs.... --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Todd Matthews wrote: From: Todd Matthews Subject: Re: Timefactor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 1:24 PM I agree. That's the one I can't go without. On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote: > My pitch factor has been a dream. --0-671957194-1299263413=:33811 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ahhhh....dream. I am lusting after my Eventide Space module that I placed an early order on. Man, those reverbs....

--- On Fri, 3/4/11, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Timefactor
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 1:24 PM

I agree. That's the one I can't go without.

On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Todd Reynolds wrote:

> My pitch factor has been a dream.







--0-671957194-1299263413=:33811-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:32:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B3D18347A; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-04_07:2011-03-04,2011-03-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103040141 Subject: Re: OT: A must see, must hear From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:32:42 -0800 Message-id: <4A589638-D979-4816-954F-C2EF55FE3EF9@mac.com> References: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:32:57 +0000 (UTC) WOW! Just amazing. So difficult. So rewarding. Pursuits like this exist for no reason other than beauty. Inspiring. thanks for sharing. d On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Revfever wrote: > Amazing! How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take for the performer to pull this off? > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XKRj-T4l-e8 > > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland,OR > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:40:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29319183484; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=pH3OnXJEvzZafMh7CU8YKaLUNEjxFQudwwNWrcv7g8U=; b=XUZidj2GQma/R7NivNXwwSMIeZncQouLU/Je1UhjnkV+GeceVPmzhjOvhvLbIlCWiu BdPd7HQzGbqiX1Zw96woifu0iba0drjxKP+k1QlSksjTbLHFKAJHR2ZJ8jf1kbBaly0h U4tqzUsRLlzwjiWmj7cISsUhHQcFs2IspZd4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=X4lRICTfK2PSS+upmUWCO24BcdSX0R2GRFEv5qR5WCjYA0Yw5zfQpmF97MBO81NkJS 3GL/PVF7BlZsofBmoVIPTWCkGWr8/y9E69lPPfH0wDEfYj6UsO2dR69yac3UXOK7EhWC AUM00q87jjUL7D2ZdlsBZc3Dl/fSrYYYcjTz4= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-981744760 Subject: Re: OT: A must see, must hear Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:40:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:40:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-981744760 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That was incredible! Not sure why but for some reason it reminded me of = this scene from the Philadelphia orchestra documentary, Music Inside and = Out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhdLi6mJb1rA On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Revfever wrote: > Amazing! How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take for = the performer to pull this off? > http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=3DXKRj-T4l-e8 >=20 > Cheers, > Rev. Fever > Portland,OR >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-981744760 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii That was incredible! Not sure why but for some reason it reminded me of this scene from the Philadelphia orchestra documentary, Music Inside and Out
On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Revfever wrote:

Amazing!  How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take for the performer to pull this off?
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XKRj-T4l-e8

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR




--Apple-Mail-2-981744760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 18:44:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1030D183491; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zdOr8JEYt3UoZBtgb2CFO71zS8/wlx3PHDrYNfItJNk=; b=Eyg9qyhDO0PHfL1KJ7t3JzzVogmP3d3RL3kT0hMvPXx2T7rHSTWbpQg25LRBEstW03 PikAl2vtmt0EUtkaTsjll+NvOUDGCO+GLUfxsAgpmF1FOv8cs68FBOMIbQ/gLIHJYHks wDaQUCJTff8oFiQmm0gFsd55bf4aNde7np6X0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XQ/wp6FCcTQiA11Q55yZ6kRcS3i1pei1VChZ/wZ2Q/NYM0bao8mIGP2U54uTdDAx6B Gx9JirSrjbW/5GWaqonIP+ByRIL8JIF5fsL+OOq2RBxDMQ8KU8JhO6Wq7Io1w4dHXigv Qlzx7k9jAZHhFUmKFhrL9zY7VfKJpqJaW0Enk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:44:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Video of recent Zoe gig online From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Stumbled into this video of list member Zoe Keating performing. Good audio recording of a great gig. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10082147 She loops in SooperLooper on a Mac and uses a Behringer FCB1010 for looping control. As far as I know. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 19:27:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8114A18349C; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xZ0C3LmbmwdSndZI71H/BA4aKT1sC3iHdN+mc+6ZLGg=; b=wm84zppEDZEnednF6aZjVX6lj/z2b2rl6g09W+W5SMYTO0bFj7sODNx/dp9+SyIw7W n+j0WqNV/xbgXMcCW3b9igxteQkZVE7sgyBRmYbqY9EpzmBI1oVRqc5M/YH9gVdIQPXK ZC6J28Jnc5Zr7XVX+4+ZJgcQIgLJwNSKu7vsc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=C+6CRx0hU9y5D7+8ixjVEYsXPhKoquVPCFnvTcY1Tu7J0rVCUNzAu8ES62RjFqufnj CDON4kclYmi4nh45KaAdtXIr6ueUReCBXdlpFu50ZKSG9LZGq/DXtWAl+azEkxphnehG J5M7Ny76Z+2fgO7ZoEsqEI57jMiyfvn7MVaB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:27:46 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sorting out the good stuff From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151759366c075db0049dad24d2 Resent-Message-ID: <7YY8ZD.A.aT.00TcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:27:48 +0000 (UTC) --00151759366c075db0049dad24d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't have a great answer, matt d's post that i just read, really did a good job explaining his methods. i also remember from old david torn interviews that he uses a similar method (or did at least on the "oah" album), the idea when he was improvising was to just let stuff flow, and then he would listen back and pull out "the good stuff" as we're talking about. if i remember, he generally would move the "good stuff" to computer programs, but he would also add stuff to it, whatever was needed...i think he always said he thought of the improvised loops were the base to his compositions.... i know for me, w/ using my new tascam dr03, i've been really enjoying listening to the stuff, i need to sit down and document what's going on...i suppose this could be done easier w/ transfer to computer, but i don't have a dedicated me/music computer...it's a family/shared one... but as i have 6 files of stuff recorded so far, it's going to be hard to remember what was on file 2 at the 3 min mark...so documentation will be important. i do know that i think the recordings sound good for me. the idea of just "hit record" and play w/ no constraints is sort of liberating....they feel looser (after i get going). i've felt that it's some of my best loop stuff i've done in awhile-all mostly done w/ my dl8, short loops...although i've done a few things w/ my new (for me) boss sp303...which i do love also.... i may have to read the manual of that, and figure out the sequencer in it! (ha!). i think certainly one good approach is to be able to step away from stuff, listen to it after a period of time, which is the same stuff that is recommended w/ writing or working on paintings...diving in immediately at times you are too connected to it....having fresh ears and really deciding what is the best can be hard... and certainly for me, i've only got probably 45 min of material recorded in 3 days....no idea how you would tackle HUNDREDS OF HRS of stuff, from a yrs worth of material....that would be a challenge.... s--- --00151759366c075db0049dad24d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't have a great answer, matt d's post that i just read, really did a good job explaining his methods.
i also remember from old david torn interviews that he uses a similar method (or did at least on the "oah"
album), the idea when he was improvising was to just let stuff flow, and then he would listen back and
pull out "the good stuff" as we're talking about.

if i remember, he generally would move the "good stuff" to computer programs, but he would also
add stuff to it, whatever was needed...i think he always said he thought of the improvised loops were
the base to his compositions....

i know for me, w/ using my new tascam dr03, i've been really enjoying listening to the stuff,
i need to sit down and document what's going on...i suppose this could be done easier w/ transfer
to computer, but i don't have a dedicated me/music computer...it's a family/shared one...
but as i have 6 files of stuff recorded so far, it's going to be hard to remember what was on file 2
at the 3 min mark...so documentation will be important.

i do know that i think the recordings sound good for me. the idea of just "hit record" and play
w/ no constraints is sort of liberating....they feel looser (after i get going). i've felt that it's some
of my best loop stuff i've done in awhile-all mostly done w/ my dl8, short loops...although i've done
a few things w/ my new (for me) boss sp303...which i do love also....
i may have to read the manual of that, and figure out the sequencer in it! (ha!).

i think certainly one good approach is to be able to step away from stuff, listen to it after a period of time,
which is the same stuff that is recommended w/ writing or working on paintings...diving in immediately
at times you are too connected to it....having fresh ears and really deciding what is the best can be hard...

and certainly for me, i've only got probably 45 min of material recorded in 3 days....no idea how you would
tackle HUNDREDS OF HRS of stuff, from a yrs worth of material....that would be a challenge....
s--- --00151759366c075db0049dad24d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 19:37:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A158B18348E; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <679F9ADB-6455-4991-875D-89C442C399AB@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: A must see, must hear Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:43:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.5 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2,RDNS_DYNAMIC,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net X-Spam-Level: **** Resent-Message-ID: <5EKFl.A.-g.u9TcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:37:18 +0000 (UTC) The "tuned" glasses in a Glass Harmonica are firmly attached to the structure to prevent that from happening. (Hopefully) I can just barely hen-peck parts of that famous piece by Bach on my piano and *that* guy was performing great and on a *much more difficult* instrument! I guess I'll just give it all up and go and become an insurance salesman. :-) Cheerios, Rev. Fever Portland,OR The Angry Red Planet On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I wonder how many glasses got knocked over in learning. > > Impressive stuff to be sure. > > Kevin > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Revfever > wrote: >> Amazing! How many hours or weeks, months of practice did it take >> for the >> performer to pull this off? >> http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XKRj-T4l-e8 >> >> Cheers, >> Rev. Fever >> Portland,OR >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 19:38:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B44118349F; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0IACvOcE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYaI19wESFYQSFHIpW X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,265,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="53159996" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <834D2855-9B50-4B18-A234-4F1FDF7D54BD@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <373263.33811.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-985453029 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Timefactor Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:41:56 -0600 References: <373263.33811.qm@web36708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_pTrO.A.9l.9-TcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 19:38:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-985453029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Ahhhh....dream. I am lusting after my Eventide Space module that I > placed an early order on. Man, those reverbs.... > You'll love it. It can do *a lot*. Jeff --Apple-Mail-1-985453029 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Paul Richards wrote:

Ahhhh....dream. I am lusting after my Eventide Space module that I placed an early order on. Man, those reverbs....


You'll love it. It can do *a lot*.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-1-985453029-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 20:25:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D38318347C; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=f44Jq9qJjrTAlRr/Eak8lKSH0LRL+f5NoqtvG3JhIw6V9zwfYTFreeVAwYvA4nRF; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:25:32 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79bf8c6cdb66168eceff8b28f59c5cc625350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <1rgpHC.A.sdB.BrUcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:25:37 +0000 (UTC) >Charles Zwicky wrote: > >>> >>>As I understand it, it's intended to be a way of having a delay >>>with feedback, but arranged so that there's no comb effect on >>>sustained notes. >> >> >>No, not at all.. it's effect is diffuse an impulse. Try putting >>one in the feedback loop of a delay line with a coefficient of >>about 0.5 and you'll hear what I mean... > >The idea is to diffuse *without* comb filtering. There is plenty of comb filtering in an allpass and it's quite audible at a coefficient higher than 0-.3 or so.. >Don't know why you're saying "not at all", >I'm just repeating reverb 101 there. But you're repeating things without a basic understanding of the principals involved, so it has become a semantic argument, and one that it would be pointless to continue unless you showed some interest in the basic engineering . If you are interested in reverb design, I can certainly help. I've done enough of it... :) > >>> >>> >>>>I'm not sure that you meant to write "phase dispersion"... >>> >>>Just meant that different frequencies are delayed by different amounts. >>>(Allpass is also used in a phase fx.) >> >> >>It's an entirely different implementation than what you'd typically >>find in an analog "phase shifter". > >:-) I think I can guess that analog is a different implementation >to digital. But not the difference I was referring to. For starters, it would be impossible to get the amount of delay required from a standard capacitor based allpass filter. > >soniq reverb. >> It's likely that the EH "Freeze" uses a series of allpass filters >>before and after a fixed delay line. > >Two sets of allpass? They're all linear processes so order is not >important. Or is there some other element involved? > >Actually, listening to the demos more it doesn't sound so good on >complex chords, and it's rather more metallic on some notes than others. >Wouldn't be at all surprised if there's some techniques taken from >the EH pedals that *do* use granular techniques, used in order to >get the sound seamless. Doesn't the Hog have a freeze mode which >sounds similar? Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the "granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks in some DSP programming environment and you'll start to get a feel for how these things sound. Plus it's a lot of fun...! > >Anyway, I prefer the sound from the Vortex ;-) > >andy -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 20:31:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DAD218348D; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=TA/DvxE5/tMCtjPLhlhjwan5Aq1T6AKGvefn4CJXTXs=; b=HTHV2t0pBB+nnHovwl5oosMwgWohnsy4q8zYjmNmNjDwu4nzCXM7Qnxh6LaerOyarq eyZLK0JltY1+HXD4m/UhivashhaToX0Mkqn7RKzGKjir4xYgg0vizdX2Lo2l4fYFHmQf X+q4yQh7R8vc31jdtLlHEpeelOpn2myJge2ZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=IxhVc+BH8thTq+vdPACrEgK1qLNysWvJLyb3km4dCtIgHzLGUhCXge5Xbx2HmeCEG2 13tjnRfcGD2z3yh7zdvUrCPU2xukP1hq3VJtjECvVN36Gbak/l/wyiAYmrKVwbGiE/UF jDBlGY4XSIQxMvw6yQz+wNO7CsQtj3Zdq5g0M= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Video of recent Zoe gig online From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:31:08 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per!! I've been itching to see Zoe live for a long time now. This = just made my day. -Todd Matthews On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Stumbled into this video of list member Zoe Keating performing. Good > audio recording of a great gig. >=20 > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10082147 >=20 > She loops in SooperLooper on a Mac and uses a Behringer FCB1010 for > looping control. As far as I know. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 20:42:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9012818347D; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3319 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:42:35 UTC X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.114.241 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gV3Ke1LnF6UTGxIJ18/RiG643SvT+IDJNGFHyJHVsyI= c=1 sm=2 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=eKqVvp4LuYcAGSqnosQA:9 a=kbKk_FF0BrBx4b1Jem0A:7 a=T11CvD4TGHfc2N7OGOoutyml7WcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=ePqU_3ItVtgA:10 a=C8eapKjB5ZD1-ZVdxm0A:7 a=dwCLmuRBRi61kuf4wsnEsuJGBWkA:4 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-985770998 Subject: Re: Calton cases Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:47:14 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-985770998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hayley got a new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case. Heavy duty. = She's flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up. Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than Calton. =20 Of course, there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style = case. They're great. I've had one for 32 years that's been through it = all. Heavy as lead, though.=20 Richard richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.reverbnation.com/richardsalestreefrogorchestra On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:45 PM, David Gans wrote: >=20 >=20 > Anyone on this list do business with Calton Cases? I have bought = several from them over the years, but the company changed hands a while = back and now I have been waiting since last May for a case. I sent them = more than $900 and I fear I may never get satisfaction. I have had only = sporadic replies from them to my calls and emails, and I don't think I = will ever get a case, nor my money back. >=20 > Calton made great cases, and I really need one for my Turner Model 1. = I am now trying to scrape some more bucks together, and looking for a = new maker of roadworthy cases. >=20 > Since I started talking about this, on (e.g.) the Folk Alliance = Western Region list, I have heard from many other people who are in a = similar situation. >=20 > You have been warned! >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-985770998 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:45 PM, David Gans wrote:



Anyone on this list do business with Calton = Cases?  I have bought several from them over the years, but the = company changed hands a while back and now I have been waiting since = last May for a case.  I sent them more than $900 and I fear I may = never get satisfaction.  I have had only sporadic replies from them = to my calls and emails, and I don't think I will ever get a case, nor my = money back.

Calton made great cases, and I really need one for my = Turner Model 1.  I am now trying to scrape some more bucks = together, and looking for a new maker of roadworthy cases.

Since = I started talking about this, on (e.g.) the Folk Alliance Western Region = list, I have heard from many other people who are in a similar = situation.

You have been = warned!



= --Apple-Mail-2-985770998-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 20:58:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03AE918347E; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 588240189/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.152/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.152 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8EAK7gcE1V0r+Y/2dsb2JhbAAMF5hGzimFYQSPZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,266,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="588240189" Message-ID: <4D71526C.20904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:58:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0z18FD.A.wMC.hJVcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > so it has become a semantic argument, no it hasn't From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 22:01:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDAC918347C; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BWHSnGESIhRL0EdaeM9gpEZaBJFn+8Mu2m1ZNigYU3d+lyL7gExRxVIKMwz9qQ9q; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D71526C.20904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71526C.20904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:01:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ba976d172b69f0bc0547d08085b23937350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:01:45 +0000 (UTC) >Charles Zwicky wrote: > >> so it has become a semantic argument, > >no it hasn't I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more until you've paid me... :) -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 23:09:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A76818345F; 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http://www.traugottguitars.com/ --Apple-Mail-6-997873199-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 4 23:11:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51FA4183462; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Calton cases Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-998005225 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:11:08 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <6A2F51E3-670B-4EED-9939-4FAA19E4B7E7@trufun.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 23:11:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-998005225 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks! On Mar 4, 2011, at 3:08 PM, William Walker wrote: > > http://www.traugottguitars.com/ David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-1-998005225 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

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= --Apple-Mail-1-998005225-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 00:12:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA767183460; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 00:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+LADKS9QKhAVrff7hRNQJKgllI/z7zXPrRn9PgQYlGw=; b=EAXE68Zt0owijQ+tHNLjkU9FyeTA6KK3UfVb6F1lY2Dn96Qa1LbNpaZx/i1XN+EiqP ogj565souOFg7JrJKlXQdxLwj63xeAdVhUdDIno1MKE+nFujdCjgFSs5GsCr8zCqc/HJ 27Ek9SyIMMliE3a8UPFm3oX/HPRn3CH/bWLho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oLiw44wSDFa9SeKdK44odzB1/zdyivDlW9s2fgRz+Rx04rpVJGRYeLJcwKznQff13k 1PG4Bzgik3Ilm2Ob3o5S0V/sXD/gQgTvkiaMRL7CkH4PecYboQ94ZXVIYxRgMBOUqgrE WngSFlyQq4Au9cXn3AyeI6vCY2dUKEUW0pRrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:12:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zo=EB_Keating_and_Todd_Reynolds=3A_Live_Web_cast_and_On?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?line_Chat?= From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d0254af5b10049db11c08 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 00:12:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d0254af5b10049db11c08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On *Sunday, March 6 at 7 p.m., EST*, Q2 presents a live audio Web cast of experimental musician and technophile Zo=EB Keating in a sold-out concert f= rom Greenwich Village's (Le) Poisson Rouge. Joining Keating for a voltaic, electroacoustic double bill is New Music stalwart Todd Reynolds. http://www.wqxr.org/articles/q2-live-concerts/2011/feb/23/zoe-keating-and-t= odd-reynolds/ Cool! :) -Adam --20cf307d0254af5b10049db11c08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On=A0Sunday, March= 6 at 7 p.m., EST, Q2 presents a live audio Web cast of experiment= al musician and technophile=A0Zo=EB Keating=A0in a sold-out concert from Gr= eenwich Village's (Le) Poisson Rouge. Joining Keating for a voltaic, el= ectroacoustic double bill is New Music stalwart=A0Todd Reynolds.

http://www.wqxr.= org/articles/q2-live-concerts/2011/feb/23/zoe-keating-and-todd-reynolds/

Cool! :) -Adam
--20cf307d0254af5b10049db11c08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 03:00:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17B52183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 03:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9LEKhHndZNpIzKqm9Q0P0tIHW8wwUY0z6toMUHr/x4I=; b=clgwjkN3coSO3roKSvE6Hx91pzXA8SpMQQtrvLE+e9Ct68BbvUuYefHAAQ/WpVbor7 JeEZYdqlRyvXHqDjD04jx9Qt8OrpNzdgE0oO/0pHo8ZHS7/rLSSAp//sBuxOHDlZePNR Mc6hRfWv2IS/3CLZkmfVmPRN4tKuCbovgFWNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PmHTfLkVuA5g97E62XHiV/u/pmEf5Vh6v/VL/L/jhhRqLfF7GDm2UStKEw/nOdg3IV fT1A6z0s7tr5YAthWphH/YTX5RiCO82hLqMeEPFmhcazH95hByjC8QvXYbuWcI2joX7z jsmltM41kApKl27JcJedci/HFnTRLHFS9Ejdo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d025463489d049db37722 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 03:00:35 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d025463489d049db37722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The link didn't work for me. Try again? --20cf307d025463489d049db37722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 The link didn't work for me. Try again? --20cf307d025463489d049db37722-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 05:10:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDDBB183466; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Pll+GTmcCTepKBfnzeJHfTUnlnMM+NpMTUTFUISR0wI=; b=FBZuMFa8KGfjf7wbUkHmpMV68439Z+Wefwv5Uk8LR6DXmNs3Nc/a08aQO8cP2YY6yG eGnSdEXdHnnxZpBaCqoEEoC5N+Aje4Jsi0Sczflbulk4Uby7kFrBHMHrgmyNJsfDZW55 0fFzyT802M9LvPnqfOjWEQobsj339VqF0UNOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D4Bnx7zdTzMTWofpXxyIddS1fsL3Xs6v/3WSPwEDQZceAh5NbMf77jtmFEPeUBKDvV rObpnE0s5Ewa0w3BupkfpO1LsiwxovfB24ybV/XnVSNIUTpgSTOlUvsg/XIHuW4GRif4 zccG2DeOpIvc78nXungea6gRfHjQSFXIBo5x8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:10:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4sxsgC.A.qED.PXccNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 05:10:39 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:00 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > The link didn't work for me. Try again? http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 06:23:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99725183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-hashedpuzzle: sow= BFit Bz16 CN4Z EO40 EWc5 EYJh F429 GMlu GlIf Gwm6 Ho2k ICC9 IoKD JSgb KnXJ;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{11A233F5-353A-49B5-B937-AE7DDEFB6C5D};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sat, 05 Mar 2011 06:14:14 GMT;dQBzAHQAcgBlAGEAbQBlAHIAcwA= x-cr-puzzleid: {11A233F5-353A-49B5-B937-AE7DDEFB6C5D} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: ustreamers Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 22:14:13 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ustreamers Thread-Index: Acva86659CE+vnWlS8C2JXuN1qnftAACKoIA References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2011 06:23:53.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[E629EF00:01CBDAFD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 06:36:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22F4183466; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-05_02:2011-03-04,2011-03-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=1 spamscore=1 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103040254 Message-id: <541909A460F74EEC8E99A05EDF01D153@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 22:35:42 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:36:11 +0000 (UTC) I used to be ok with that speed about a year ago but something changed around last summer. I dunno, give it a shot and see? t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" To: Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:14 PM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 08:48:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63C3C183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 08:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 579575888/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.163/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.163 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQCAMqHcU1V0rSj/2dsb2JhbAAMmGHMJIViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,268,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="579575888" Message-ID: <4D71F901.8090208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 08:49:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71526C.20904@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 08:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > >> Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>> so it has become a semantic argument, >> >> no it hasn't > > I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more until you've paid me... :) > > LOL :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 09:09:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 633DE183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D71FDAC.6000007@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 04:09:00 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:09:06 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, March 5 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 09:20:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F14183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0ea54784-04d6-46eb-b1a9-2bc05300000f_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:20:30 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2011 09:20:30.0755 (UTC) FILETIME=[92B8F730:01CBDB16] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:20:31 +0000 (UTC) --_0ea54784-04d6-46eb-b1a9-2bc05300000f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey =20 Date: Fri=2C 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again? = --_0ea54784-04d6-46eb-b1a9-2bc05300000f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable htt= p://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey
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The link didn't work for me. Try agai= n? = --_0ea54784-04d6-46eb-b1a9-2bc05300000f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 09:21:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE572183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=apZ4seFFNm2NUvtV3ROeEqaIQk6NWzLvKTgNGO8uh+Y=; b=Me2B5UsdwJ0KdCJgMjASDhqhWpunqKLi6S//W28ncm2xBjderI1Em2PyI0rrSwH3es 3F+f1bBofOHq7ufpk7DlC+oECsMlESdDHh0qjZGfhQNmoDlAu4VOPC95WXs+m0I98Oj5 FqJCpvNW7+RciM/WIsucclS+9ZIEyXU2a2ABc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OptEwy8i51Vf21+0vKc0cx9fryCzuKDpEcb14e4zCnMdycmekcyL0s+rlr2k7NFH7g BsNL4CP82NKLbdxg8oRla/0hY8lJEjqtaab0HvaC2y2wqZGHfJijDDfymx9Yb2xnH0vH KnTu0/TG1rq2bIcrcKhdgGx36mLMISbF0gjV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:20:58 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RJ0zLlU3boNX6AOOxyuQl1imHoE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517aca6f806e3049db8c8be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517aca6f806e3049db8c8be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for that Andy, cant try it right now cos the rack is in the car from rehearsing last night... interesting that it uses mosaic I just discovered how useful that one is... Ive been using deja vu for looping. Last niht I had two mosaic with different taps.. a 3 and a 6 and a 4 and a 5.. and was morphing between... after a bit I just parked in a sweet spot somewhere in between... One new issue i discovered, is that when I hit bypass, i kind of thought that the input to vortex would be muted, so that when I came back it would be quiet and have to fill up from new input, but infact it had been listening to my input the whole time... HUGE SUDDEN WALL OF DELAYS!!! Everyone jumped.. well me and Jens anyway (thats all we are)... is do I need to switch patches to a no delay patch to do this? Or are there only certain patches that are actually still listening to input, while the output is muted? Mark PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? Ive missed it actually! Are your super hippy cool pages still up anywhere? I printed out that whole site at one time, maybe 13 years ago!! Ehem.. Care to share YOUR settings? >> >> > > SWEEP A MOSAIC A > MIX 64 64 > OUTPUT 64 64 > MODFX 64 64 > ECHO LVL 35 1 > MORPH PEDAL > ENV 1 1 > ECHO 1% 3 3 > ECHO 2% 2 5 > FBK 1 18 64 > FBK 2 43 64 > RATE1 6 6 > DEPTH1 48 64 > RES1 28 1 > RATE2 22 22 > DEPTH2 9 9 > RES2 1 43 > > do comment if it doesn't do what you need > > andy > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec517aca6f806e3049db8c8be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for that Andy, cant try it right now cos the rack is in the car from= rehearsing last night... interesting that it uses mosaic I just discovered= how useful that one is...=A0 Ive been using deja vu for looping. Last niht= I had two mosaic with different taps.. a 3 and a 6 and a 4 and a 5.. and w= as morphing between... after a bit I just parked in a sweet spot somewhere = in between...

One new issue i discovered, is that when I hit bypass, i kind of though= t that the input to vortex would be muted, so that when I came back it woul= d be quiet and have to fill up from new input, but infact it had been liste= ning to my input the whole time... HUGE SUDDEN WALL OF DELAYS!!! Everyone j= umped.. well me and Jens anyway (thats all we are)... is do I need to switc= h patches to a no delay patch to do this? Or are there only certain patches= that are actually still listening to input, while the output is muted?

Mark

PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again?= Ive missed it actually! Are your super hippy cool pages still up anywhere?= I printed out that whole site at one time, maybe 13 years ago!!




Ehem.. Care to share YOUR settings?



=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 SWEEP A =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 MOSAIC A
MIX =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
OUTPUT =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
MODFX =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
ECHO LVL =A0 =A0 =A0 =A035 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1
MORPH =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PEDAL
ENV =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01
ECHO 1% =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 3 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
ECHO 2% =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
FBK 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 18 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
FBK 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 43 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
RATE1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
DEPTH1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A048 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
RES1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A028 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1
RATE2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 22 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A022
DEPTH2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
RES2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A043 =A0 =A0

do comment if it doesn't do what you need

andy




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--bcaec517aca6f806e3049db8c8be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 09:27:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3969183466; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9AF159AC-6E5A-4E4C-A24A-D0942D8BC320@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Video of recent Zoe gig online Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:27:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:27:32 +0000 (UTC) all killer no filler.... Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 09:43:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45514183479; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:43:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110304-1, 04/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed is less important. So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 10:23:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0863D183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 951382.49057.bm@omp1006.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ujcvqMmrNdaWwTGlVFGQ8xha6+cI5VWAw4Nh35vI94l8xf6YmWvhdhS5d8Yefx82dWxNLPJMVXzQPhEaIqcDiNe3T9q+kX0CYjJsUTbI89e2Ph8y7Hq/LsItVJIkhbPBPPv+PjFA92lWtEs1QLc4SnitW372sc2vf36z2x5MPI4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1299320621; bh=wahjn0ersIq3btgTTTE0OHuDYis1LUwKu4ZbODpC8mo=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=GiZp5WoUBbVyoZXjwvDRVczyt1dzuo0t99xQAFmfXBEHXgRlfOOVu60xGDX4+MPgiJxxnw9qAgdTbxB5LxAgCVwW500LOKuKJndfs96sAL5fxfY9Vt+vcm54dYivt7Cp+KBmCCdTP8aZa905U22vpzfEVo2py2keyYv3Gys15HM= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 2N7T4cEVM1lQQ3oT0HjqQI5skaOjp13n90gPRyPyO1TZ8tN GwZd3Mqnx3dCkgA.O4.88kC.IQwIfNxWne7igDr66VzG.8Ut2N.XPjgIwTaG CGQyXoC7_uMR1SlthQ0tGL0pz6.1__x90JcKpmqiaH5rgYC0v8kaq194BY3s SlMdk_Er2X5UDbDNxxUIoWzv173tnWzTy3PSqgwV6KY_oCqrmEuDt0iB1P8l v7UIM2REvgy4ynrqL8pS8C52OQsuvrXIuW3Ys8zhhZJ6Sp3OSsbFdNgWrdun kTdJj3P4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-1038351535 Message-Id: <2E8B5C29-0F85-4C67-95A2-26E9EB3536BB@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Video of recent Zoe gig online Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:23:34 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:23:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-1038351535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Loving this - playing it this morning. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Mar 2011, at 18:44, Per Boysen wrote: > Stumbled into this video of list member Zoe Keating performing. Good > audio recording of a great gig. > > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10082147 > > She loops in SooperLooper on a Mac and uses a Behringer FCB1010 for > looping control. As far as I know. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > --Apple-Mail-9-1038351535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Loving this - playing it this morning. 

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On 4 Mar 2011, = at 18:44, Per Boysen wrote:

Stumbled into this video of list member Zoe Keating = performing. Good
audio recording of a great = gig.

She loops in SooperLooper on a = Mac and uses a Behringer FCB1010 for
looping = control. As far as I know.

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
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www.perboysen.com

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= --Apple-Mail-9-1038351535-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 10:26:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43D86183460; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=s3XdQx7Z1Zja4tVFRDC/MLm66Gfa45ikQFztM4RoGPw=; b=iDHvQym46WdEmMT5W2qLteHE23P55WbXcpOnU9R4rnK51V/3lGMTxr0xr97Il+KBCy JqpyQ6F6Suj+H0SspjV6eAM2OSPPg9F7/jsOUKnilvbUve1xoanSfGmhxBG5n+Va6eA2 dMbRdJIp2mSn6kNiuxmyE6vlNnZpNWtNUpafU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=VNLO0WQp/gKad/SdRru8eMw2NZUrCqcRt4kyDHAtlVtyg+sfws8MwqCLPtkQm/a4Kk GW6QedN1LZ1ktLLFHuzJ46D/fqAKQ6pHsYIg3OHDCNzNrZ5fLz2G/Qj2lDBKrWr1PeBy K5pTTiDlYya6WxVn7o+HDD/b2tf33W230t4WE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:24:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PnJPZP6Y-wGV-7nTL7iOFzLx8ys Message-ID: Subject: How do I make a gated reverb? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1b7f656e6f049db9aa8f Resent-Message-ID: <7jdi1B.A.6AB.L_gcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:26:19 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b1b7f656e6f049db9aa8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How do I make a gated reverb in the TC Electronics Fireworx. There isnt one built in, but theres envelope followers and they can be sent to er... things... Can anyone explain what a real gated reverb is, how its constructed, maybe I can emulate one? Strange there isnt one as a standard in Fireworx... Any Fireworx users know if there is a hidden patch where theres done that... but with 400 factory presets, I just get a wrist ache! m -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51b1b7f656e6f049db9aa8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I make a gated reverb in the TC Electronics Fireworx.
There isnt = one built in, but theres envelope followers and they can be sent to er... t= hings... Can anyone explain what a real gated reverb is, how its constructe= d, maybe I can emulate one?

Strange there isnt one as a standard in Fireworx...

Any Fireworx= users know if there is a hidden patch where theres done that... but with 4= 00 factory presets, I just get a wrist ache!

m

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--bcaec51b1b7f656e6f049db9aa8f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 10:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CFF3183465; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> In-Reply-To: <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:31:54 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:31:52 +0000 (UTC) I beg to differ a little. Because I'm out in BFN (bum-frack nowhere) in the West Country of England I'd be lucky if one line got me 1.5M download, 400K up. I have to multiplex or bond two line together, which gives me 800K upload, 5M download tops. The upload speed is fairly consistent, but the hardware they use really sucks - so sometimes it goes brain dead on me - but in general I've been able to broadcast for some time. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moyes Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:43 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ustreamers Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed is less important. So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 10:33:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F92C183475; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mfwn81DTWME+jXfyfN6w7orFySSeHC813Z2fJ9KQF3E=; b=fmzuzU/mYPYmuJ0BL7pT9ek3fdwxW2Lvc71NiDS82FdL6lT7r+i7+1LKfh3s3lrYCB hl++ckoRH4VHO+ywKjI+x35Ofa1Yk23o0zvAcDhJVbEl4L7/dulr/F3Ljh6bDxNA/h7+ iufCLYziF6HpMGq7OfPIBj4PyPX/KSPaQq4RU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ei81OvESeJNhMORjKlDLq8Nh2boJnsP7MxhwtSLMosvOxPIA7sxZoVUJTcYr304p2+ FFbv7LOUmVL3HfyD7S9ieHJ3tjL3NhgNRgXgk7CVEZrR06IqG6JF7/goiFPb0iOSdVDD 9LcEzA1aQHLeUX5NqwS1tJrTYAmEhCwNtLVL0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:33:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_w4nLD.A.0PB.4FhcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best! Per On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe wrote: > How do I make a gated reverb in the TC Electronics Fireworx. > There isnt one built in, but theres envelope followers and they can be sent > to er... things... Can anyone explain what a real gated reverb is, how its > constructed, maybe I can emulate one? > > Strange there isnt one as a standard in Fireworx... > > Any Fireworx users know if there is a hidden patch where theres done that... > but with 400 factory presets, I just get a wrist ache! > > m > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 10:58:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2087183479; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ujSoyvSs4juX2hhB+92Oryb0HaEBbEYTUAfwHhUfBMo=; b=yDTTtNCes8yWOwicb5Ya1TkpfsoUQLeXX82CtfTUQcUSLCUVdUy171khaZbQ2vCklp 967W9dOdxk9lKCe6fAZ3ig1ggoj5OvreRdFW2ZEtYMtIyeALCwk+G94WhplryaYx62Ue f+niF4jqAU5Q36qJsqUkyvo1mDA9/w7ZgChdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EBUYtZLVDeN0l/KGX3ElCp+sjwebOiuhZq6VkHivMVPmo5mo7QoTZf+gxJzIcSRKnK hftht/Pk8sDI0ERYT/7ulibr9t78J3UlSCyW08qsxofrXvGI/jNKDwanXKN+cRYGHVEW 3s46jqGnywFlYU8k/rjOhhl1dK9PquvPJrdMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:58:15 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MPhMw_Kcfk5rbGuqowDUi3QtpsE Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517aca6e1eed5049dba24d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:58:37 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517aca6e1eed5049dba24d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought about something like that Per, but wont that just make a reverb that fades out as the guitar signal fades.. (interesting idea, worth a try) I think I need something that triggers when I play a sounds (opens? like a VCA???) then after a while closes suddenly. So I was thinking... Env Follower to trigger a VCA, with a short release time. that release time is set to adjust the delay time of a reverb. So loud signal Equals long verb, and release time equals short verb... BUT.. how do I get that *timed* part of a gated reverb, from the moment you hit, to the moment it cuts... This is just chat really Ill try it later (Rack still in car...) I just wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY is? M On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay > time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other > paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is > bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best! > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec517aca6e1eed5049dba24d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought about something like that Per, but wont that just make a reverb t= hat fades out as the guitar signal fades.. (interesting idea, worth a try)<= br>
I think I need something that triggers when I play a sounds (opens? = like a VCA???) then after a while closes suddenly. So I was thinking...
Env Follower to trigger a VCA, with a short release time. that release = time is set to adjust the delay time of a reverb. So loud signal Equals lon= g verb, and release time equals short verb... BUT.. how do I get that *time= d* part of a gated reverb, from the moment you hit, to the moment it cuts..= .

This is just chat really Ill try it later (Rack still in car...) I just= wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY is?

M

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Try assign *input= level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay
time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other
paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best!





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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--bcaec517aca6e1eed5049dba24d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 11:12:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74406183460; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 588390369/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.163/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.163 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQCABOpcU1V0rSj/2dsb2JhbAAMhB6UQ7trkCeBJ4NFdgSPZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,268,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="588390369" Message-ID: <4D721AA3.7080907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:12:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:12:25 +0000 (UTC) 1. Per Boysen wrote: > Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay > time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other > paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is > bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best! 2. The classic "Phil Collins Snare" method is to route the output from the reverb to a gate which is is controlled by the input signal. 3. Most manufacturers have a version which uses a special reverb algorithm with no tail. i.e. not really any gating, more like a multi-tap delay without feedback. Not in the list of presets, but in the list of basic reverb types. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 11:13:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49B38183460; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9cby71riOeu2pIBaK3+OqUxGl8wIRQVE63v6r94TqBk=; b=Ra5qYNGteVJmOHn8tLLHKnvLq4En3in6ZvSecANddGAmPGjt7BP5946abNWqSxgg5I 5S7uR900gE6tzofMY1tMtZVZqCoRK+puNrM5VptXDPNjCs6AzBTQflg64lkhtZGfHBKh CMHN647yFr6Pr2hCUPe5CkH5lXQ+3Qoderc54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oke6TYyYYc1gNG6xaY4hkz41EGAKsT3UDYHFF8CDtSYy9dyZP4E87KD5e1GY3Md2ZJ 4OqxRJSCV529oj8KM+fgtuSIYMXxWLPtjmV0aWKO8TTf//fyBiVVeFRFj1feLGWVCEaj 5nOVQ0poRaGj3U66QJxhrXRWlKf4w5a7CE50M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Well, you're right. My suggestion isn't really for a classic "gate verb" because the classic setup is to stick a mic up to something, cable the mic through a reverb and cable that through a noise gate. By setting the threshold of the noise gate you control the length of the gate verb. My post was more about a dynamic verb gating setup. Why not try the classic gate verb routing in the FireworX? Funnily, I first got into using gate verbs by hearing some early releases from Cabaret Voltaire. I worked like mad, cabling reverbs and noise gates all over the place, but never got my stuff to sound right. Many, many years later I heard that CV had not used reverb gating technique at all on those tracks, they had simply used a sampler with sampled drum hits ;-)) LOL Per On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:58 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I thought about something like that Per, but wont that just make a reverb > that fades out as the guitar signal fades.. (interesting idea, worth a try) > > I think I need something that triggers when I play a sounds (opens? like a > VCA???) then after a while closes suddenly. So I was thinking... > > Env Follower to trigger a VCA, with a short release time. that release time > is set to adjust the delay time of a reverb. So loud signal Equals long > verb, and release time equals short verb... BUT.. how do I get that *timed* > part of a gated reverb, from the moment you hit, to the moment it cuts... > > This is just chat really Ill try it later (Rack still in car...) I just > wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY is? > > M > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay >> time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other >> paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is >> bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best! >> >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 11:23:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13E9183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gsxXf3mG7CPhRLjCnlTAIFSSiAOSsrUN0JA32xpjtt0=; b=aQyBFXDquPmuRGLY+frr6BgK3O0UvXz+R/TXk0s1UbbnT1FYWYPhICbp2EJXFxF2+B 8/0UWh8HcZNMDp8E74a9AunmolfdB73A1OasIj/YAJYHjlqmRST7HJCdqK9olPCbfwiS o9wfC9ofLBNZ3QGsLaOYJOYGX6YutPr8/2Z6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=F3j6TCn1M7xyMjfucyYgmrYQyonIbSdFqa97qwusMWzjNrZ41DrYFpl9bt+bp0wRQ0 q/s861C/Rhkwf7OK4r1XZ9oQqsU+RJLSPj9l8YoBR8skvtKUO32ujTCXBRi/7lyWA+lW ew4wnyvjzkRGAvfNIXscu5o/tbs9JD2pwud60= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:23:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Roger O'Donnell From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215045bdbe4d62d049dba7e61 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:23:46 +0000 (UTC) --002215045bdbe4d62d049dba7e61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought this was worth of sharing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmguHdth7Y -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --002215045bdbe4d62d049dba7e61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought this was worth of sharing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIBmguHdth7Y
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--002215045bdbe4d62d049dba7e61-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 11:46:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C55183466; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/qU9FOZ4M6JqAhSNGfM/SZgaB7XV5lgbKTBpJjLfr7o=; b=ZBscSkPGbzB/Abaw6pJQyTxcN6+HkOrSgSy3GXKtTed4eeqZLWQCRlT+Z+mG+0yMS4 honcHB6Hoe+7hEjpE4BLHEsMtQ4MizH8dg4jO+vHSXdLPK5rIObqN0SDPVxhvtP17Py1 2PqyeJAmV8hibKL1MG0w1sPstf2U6C6Ndf6Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E6GBWFUv6y6xeOVqedUmWRx+RW3I/7XOjirpwsJsLpo/DH7+th4DQ6neSV2O1/hUxC glbn6IE72M1IhTFjbuoKmJn8eim/w+Kgx1Yire9SmIIvK/2HDcFfkTZa7hBVWjEJ1pGH xelGt2C74LAAKKGJ1ld930GplhwdrZJd+OglM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:46:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:46:57 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > I thought this was worth of sharing > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmguHdth7Y Thanks Petri, I enjoy that music a lot! But what the heck is "Glitch Sequencer"? An internet search only gives Roger O'Donnell Facebook page. But that's cool because over there he recently uploaded a video to show off "how Glitch Sequencer works". http://www.facebook.com/pages/Roger-ODonnell/9158211963 Pretty interesting although he never actually says what Glitch Sequencer is! I would guess it is a Max For Live mockup? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:03:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 866EB183476; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 588340302/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.163/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.163 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQCAH61cU1V0rSj/2dsb2JhbAAMmGHLf4ViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,268,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="588340302" Message-ID: <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:03:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:03:42 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > HUGE SUDDEN WALL OF > do I need to switch patches to a no delay patch to do this? any switching of patches cleans out what's in the delays (shame really) It depends on the preset you use whether turning down the Echo LVL or the FX level stops the audio getting into the delays. I'm not sure about details, if ever I run a patch that can do 100% feedback I always have pedal control. ...and yes, I get that burst of noise sometimes too > Or are there only certain patches that are actually still listening to > input, while the output is muted? haven't checked, but I assume they all do it > > Mark > > PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it either in hardware or software. >Ive missed > it actually! >Are your super hippy cool pages still up anywhere? I > printed out that whole site at one time, maybe 13 years ago!! http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/vortex.htm In the mid nineties, that "pink fluffy clouds" seamless tile background was state of the art...........I thought at the time. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:10:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACE4C183479; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WBh3wleAfUQwWDesjp5KJeGWjXwfAVCMydaUYCw8jAU=; b=vtMOTq1AVodo34fZFYzvH8YdUZNXwu9t9EzpwAzpJONflX5w+x/B5GgBmMRqh2bYpW TNClwqhFn4PYdxrV3OFD4+3bL7ftaUxILQzBjy0fIk6ycfcdH4/B5fr6A8uUKKFi+kMe /ta6VBlhcALVt4vCBF/ZakWO9FPgT+lv5ezWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Iu2YYNylP7RHTTmiLBif92r+aiO9EM90IE/DLn6v2/OnXrHRrDsXqthwjeeZdSyRPv kPD7iCv3LPtOcMALrGAQ2EqbRmUBhjQaRxDo4S8MEdoNLh65pYCtMSU0lZHkmWyldA6b 9lQ4pFLp0FoqGiMUBN4Eb7KIMCLbb8IgJb0NM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:09:30 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: T86mL-VxBylZOKSETJifp0yaKV0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fcc3f78eac4049dbb27f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:10:54 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fcc3f78eac4049dbb27f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Funnily, I first got into using gate verbs by hearing some early > releases from Cabaret Voltaire. I worked like mad, cabling reverbs and > noise gates all over the place, but never got my stuff to sound right. > Many, many years later I heard that CV had not used reverb gating > technique at all on those tracks, they had simply used a sampler with > sampled drum hits ;-)) LOL > > Per > > > LOL... Ha ha!!! Must ve been later CV right? I fell in love with the fast buzzing delay they used on drums actually... on things like sluggin fer Jesus and Red Mecca. Ive said many times that the Cabs were HUGE for me growing up, I am so prou= d that I got to see them play live pretty early. (Before Chris Watson quit). The=B4re early work was so inspiring to industrial music, and the later stu= ff has been cited by many extremely big House and Techno producers to be a big influence... What arent they hugely rich? Thx for the reminder... Nag Nag Nag now playing here... (7" version vinyl = I may add...) m --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba3fcc3f78eac4049dbb27f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Funnily, I first got into using gate verbs by hearing some early
releases from Cabaret Voltaire. I worked like mad, cabling reverbs and
noise gates all over the place, but never got my stuff to sound right.
Many, many years later I heard that CV had not used reverb gating
technique at all on those tracks, they had simply used a sampler with
sampled drum hits ;-)) =A0LOL

Per


=

LOL... Ha ha!!! Must ve been later CV right? I fell i= n love with the fast buzzing delay they used on drums actually... on things= like sluggin fer Jesus and Red Mecca.

Ive said many times that the Cabs were HUGE for me growing up, I am so = proud that I got to see them play live pretty early. (Before Chris Watson q= uit). The=B4re early work was so inspiring to industrial music, and the lat= er stuff has been cited by many extremely big House and Techno producers to= be a big influence... What arent they hugely rich?

Thx for the reminder... Nag Nag Nag now playing here...=A0 (7" ver= sion vinyl I may add...)

m
=A0

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www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba3fcc3f78eac4049dbb27f0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:11:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE120183477; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rgS647H8G7qRU5ar/3b+cJBuuDoKUzYufU7R2z6rBoo=; b=GVlRy5xGK+1S6SS9qClcvFdcmpSU9fPOgMF3Tjwu4g7h5pHZiLajcbzbl3A6Wb7W+k qVe/n9gUBqONzyC5zu20AeJjszGS2mlcUG65ptTc+As2Z+c8nMT5kftBwdXHgEhN43j7 1Ja4jxqCt55GNXPzlfB1ls4vd5Ulv3dlFPi/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e//rPz9wmJ4febjwvlBnQIwb6dO8CA3IXs3cJHKf6YlaqJcdXxY3mM4SzNuaJKPOMa rJCtCyZNDXz94cIQ+hhu8Ubc9JXUV8pNF+pjo4M9vGgt4qapcpRj2TVoQsWIuMZRHwYe x8Bhi4KV/XVg4KynJIojZaAFf+buZZkRTGIVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:11:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:11:02 +0000 (UTC) >> >> Mark: >> PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler wrote: > yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it > either in hardware or software. Andy's Vortex site: "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , essentially because no-one understood what it did." What a shame! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:14:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34365183474; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P5rlxgg/LEsovaXsRjn+Qgd9TQtauLuXGf8lAeEcDxc=; b=Ih0Qqj8jophFT+RXYamlHyyqdSHXG1+/lkPuYo6EztqLld5Rkyj+bYqU64XvQKPfIj pC0GJoCcPqtoHQG9oVBVidWVFt3ezvmRRyHJt0u4l4vKzQkGH3prZ6910Ttemnad8On0 seHVPE2mlQMNo08FN2AmhSZybjjNWrXL+zKU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W+sYw24QL0JA49fMxORbh7mN9cIxyj3j97bi4DrmKkqgJdknrxN/azqtsi4rNYeT3z bHonQISDXHlW/yhG2fPPmwdzQN7VvwZGPy4KfjGdyudqSJ3zt7ZWGeuQI7Qj2wF1OgF/ 6dTv7u9dQAGM1Y8RkG9tfnbFKrG3xS2VQVRXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:14:29 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:09 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Ive said many times that the Cabs were HUGE for me growing up, I am so pr= oud > that I got to see them play live pretty early. (Before Chris Watson quit)= . You got to see them live!!! > The=C2=B4re early work was so inspiring to industrial music, and the late= r stuff > has been cited by many extremely big House and Techno producers to be a b= ig > influence... What arent they hugely rich? As most groundbreaking creative artists they probable are stinking rich, but just never tells anyone about it. ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:20:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CF0183480; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KALWfwJLMlE0FAz3GqQXtiwPVMi4Ft9seFMUKxPGCpI=; b=KBTsT//nSwOO7ESK6E+iYTQvbbn9jgSLvm+5euVD1Ubfq3p+m/QLR2i8twJk+MsBhf HdIBOmbEhIyzT04uZ7m1OnG4DJM69yleKpZFy9ljScSXu0y+3k3bDT02pPfASFqoF0Lh 0qPWkRUbv+kdA2IEn+Nc8834pTDdELANCedt8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=JQZp0xZ579VGSFB4Ja/NuDsaBHiR83iWO495PQJm2AbT6Zwo9bEM9dQh5tIkCJK+Ry vWdYeB+HyJ32Fu72QWx30r04WDec3uOr+FkcXRBlGJ74BpE9Wsxl6cLdeZmNUMVB9/+p VNPzils/zFdaadw55RXQfSeuN6KTPIIizFm40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:20:26 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uMQk7yg8TjRmO2MbzpwyLOvmzhM Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fcc3fca4c21049dbb4a29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:48 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fcc3fca4c21049dbb4a29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > You got to see them live!!! Twice! -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba3fcc3fca4c21049dbb4a29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
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You got to see them live!!!

Twice!
<= br>--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba3fcc3fca4c21049dbb4a29-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:23:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22670183489; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yDRtf85Fe6MTyPnfpWj38NFeJcpKABLxAJAsuin8RVc=; b=LTagL76mF0ALIfRw9OXh1r0UD/8C2QToYtCTSjJbd8V5DlWRBfgxBS94FLZKvx8/60 hnNMuCWzBhf5225DhLLK2cWi2CfnIb35iM3OuaagHKTVB9aFHTsAlq/CKCWqjNB704Sp z6onSTqyAiCtAwZ6FgaAhn/XDVYETJv3zQIGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aoyYRmOdj0TwIVyqNchDr1OUEDsyKZqMO8vKaaemuVRzbHu3Lmf69G7geqUW2a2Kt1 bx9EZyTG78mRN6hTQTzFjWtynhe/+tHkUDFEwX5NTtZmW0N+vUVfXjgISq6vs+ypmEI8 7LBWXXModJzvq67XfepbmddALvIXnDmXNkHs0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 13:23:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:23:12 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:20 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> You got to see them live!!! > > Twice! You... =C2=A5=C2=A5=C2=A2=E2=80=B0=C2=A5=C2=B6=E2=80=B0\{=E2=89=A0=C2=BF=C2= =BF=C2=BF@=C2=A5!!!! P;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 12:25:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ADDE183487; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299327939; bh=yhiDMXLTSynElut27EV2eePz9vjEqVJOBNwYKqkVkwg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BMe2QOQZuaeaLwc/RBFDrXSOi1khwzjYagGbkwsMoLYKlQvVB96L+Ing4wjW2dd9wMeaHqKd8+nr1/i0KlOjoIpFW//UbapFCNieFh8AagC1pBVsBmQGnqe4OpWXVXSKp6bIW/zXjvo9pO1CZNEY2HkDfbMZoGjiMAGvN16gXug= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IWbfGGMVYDdh72DMW7yfs0SVdT07CJWbhUMCiTVqZbkSrGY2me8e4ySxTLl2wL8h6URnJ9L+VPX7tdOg5FsfGAz9pr9SPc/BzKsK7eREFH3pztgGYW+xPv1UqNRGmoBTT0JdEmHTypFh25O4kKxk41GcT4vpo7qOhXJ+pbyaraE=; Message-ID: <94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GObgXgMVM1l7nJcg51AibnfmywhE1VHnmq5XO6XKZgLMDNK TlbHlH1Wj_UGu2M21P8u9p.3hHTM602op75QBA1US8QNdB2CaN8Ei7Rs5yyl a3MCUEI63xaQmkZL.lw38vA8ICaH1aH3kU4EZtZ4hLfgY4C3pyYFa8yCd_Qt 7GDXZ503eCvkJvqUxeYFFtN0GrLilLvaBFVfHFkvwj6UNu5JSb6FU4XM6bqG u0NVRgf3gur4Gt6mjWj3tUFrWaGUWBuIFNjoWxAxBgiwzIlD5ZHXVWxNJ3UA mVgK0B1CQ08oKdk6vl8cga5spvQSWxFeUiI5ezhQpRhMEsXGTU2ZcHxHoZQ- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: , Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-393867172-1299327938=:59984" Resent-Message-ID: <7BJu8D.A.32D.EvicNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-393867172-1299327938=:59984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anders, please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first. Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey ________________________________ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again? --0-393867172-1299327938=:59984 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Anders,

please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first.

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey
 
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts..
From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

The link didn't work for me. Try again?

--0-393867172-1299327938=:59984-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 16:14:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEDE4183460; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gglzo4CHhJ0id18MNzK8ksdGi5HTPuypTmbBnt9z6FQ=; b=mYgeJTVXbWQ+B8FDdGZC1+G3XI10CLd+t+it5V49E1+s4/rcf6bQc9YGggCVDb5DN7 5coNkWJkCCSUR4oE/uFtYIyZNsi6Qb9UFi3G89bNU0gXfE3CLrAH0lO2bcKCFt9QXgBu zVuY3t362AuuQuUqbuqpqHD8ofp4ldd7DpFDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z+6Q1UR5gSPtiJcDdzUMjZ0Sz5E/YSLrQwhmcTe1/IFSq1niQ14Tj7t/khznVGsl6c YYgLU4GMc0IKhxV2xt4OdNM97eRDAzxiJkVjnEShLmpLC3rldgRyz+mYsfnDLO3D2prY +lr05SkJ8wTMNymNIGe8+UFQ+33iwFyxj6xiU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:14:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ustreamers From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cbbc7bedd2049dbe8e95 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cbbc7bedd2049dbe8e95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed! I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. The upstream is the important one here. For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which might add another 100 kpbs up so still safe. So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am surprised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than up. my .02 units worth, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You really > nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed is > less important. > > So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for > Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM > Subject: ustreamers > > > Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but > anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 > mbps. That aint fast enough is it? > > Andy o > > --20cf3071cbbc7bedd2049dbe8e95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would give a lo= t for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!
I broadcast often = with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. The upstream is th= e important one here.

For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over quali= ty. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload used is un= der .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if= I want (using a public server) which might add another 100 kpbs up so stil= l safe.

So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is= 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am surp= rised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than up= .

my .02 units worth,

J

On Sat, = Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Andy, I'm afr= aid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You really nead at leas= t around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed is less important= .

So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for Ethnomu= sicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>=
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: ustreamers


Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but
anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7
mbps. That aint fast enough is it?

Andy o


--20cf3071cbbc7bedd2049dbe8e95-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 16:39:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93D90183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net><003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:39:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CBDB53.DB124FD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110305-0, 05/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:39:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CBDB53.DB124FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my connection, but I WAS wrong about = everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 mbps, which is = about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder settings - = I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be = able to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection. I suppose that meas the occasional problems I had in the past were not = due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I was blaming my = ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own = incompetance. Thanks for putting me right, Jeff. And Andy, ignore all I said before and get Ustreaming! Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: ustreamers Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would give = a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!=20 I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection. The upstream is the important one here. For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over = quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload = used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a = Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which might add another = 100 kpbs up so still safe. So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps = is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am = surprised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than = up. my .02 units worth, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes = wrote: Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You = really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download = speed is less important. So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for = Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" = To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, = but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, = .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CBDB53.DB124FD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my = connection, but=20 I WAS wrong about everything else. I just tested my connection and got = 1.9 mbps,=20 which is about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder = settings -=20 I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be = able to=20 broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection.
 
I suppose that meas the occasional = problems I had=20 in the past were not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It = seems I was=20 blaming my ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my = own=20 incompetance.
 
Thanks for putting me right, = Jeff.
 
And Andy, ignore all I said before and = get=20 Ustreaming!
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 = 4:14=20 PM
Subject: Re: ustreamers

Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units = here. I=20 would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!
I=20 broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection. The=20 upstream is the important one here.

For broadcast I use the = Flash Media=20 Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 = kbps=20 stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some = headroom=20 to bring in a Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which = might add=20 another 100 kpbs up so still safe.

So have we got our megs and = kilos=20 mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for = the upside=20 of your connection. I am surprised that your down is the same, usually = it's=20 much faster down than up.

my .02 units worth,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes = <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.= uk>=20 wrote:
Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit = slow for=20 Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit = faster.=20 Download speed is less important.

So, I'm sorry to say, while = you're=20 at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will = be=20 difficult for you.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- = From:=20 "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: = Saturday,=20 March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: ustreamers


Hey you = ustreamers=20 out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but
anyway, I am = in BFE=20 and my upload and download are about the same, .7
mbps. That aint = fast=20 enough is it?

Andy=20 o


------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01CBDB53.DB124FD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:24:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E02E4183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1957173018.5802269.1299259933370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 or M9 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:24:24 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <1957173018.5802269.1299259933370.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA9714EA4B23C-14F4-11EE9@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:24:37 +0000 (UTC) The 'fun factor' however, was the driving force for me getting the Rang=20 III.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wow .....thanks for the informative post rich.....sounds like the rang=20 3 will open up a ton-o-options.....i'm getting excited! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:24:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 334BB183475; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uOSO+EJ7BAb12X77rN1oO02Tadu2HVA5hLuZmPvfxmQ=; b=kRNBJQVJY8U0xyfRMBNvau3DXn0r2G2tBmbyaWfZ6SlW5oDEMvp5nFCUdsmUB0PDVY LztOZQVoJKxLbEvoh0IM+QeX8LWQz5o1beMOgwkC4YGtp2RsNtos/oAY6ao3Nlj92Zpi BwuCcnJ3MvNpJKWaXu+MK7vOV/7G4UGFNtuUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=W99OQOMIaqGGV4V3jnReVGzFSxVRCiU6guYwzVEP5OlKPCxfdOx70tfHJmq9R3XThT buM3spwEsxhbYxtySFcH+SxgDo39ULLN2J2o6ueGTUQ/9gRx8XBNL4T6OwOA50yfegk0 QaKWLga4vczvgrxz1n6yDTXZa9z4Aa36laQBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Lexicon Vortex: Rule #1. Never buy just one Rule #2. See Rule #1 Rule #3. There is nothing else quite like them, especially when used in pairs Rule #4. You will need spares; see Rule #1 ...that is all. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> Mark: >>> PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler wrote: >> yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it >> either in hardware or software. > > Andy's Vortex site: > "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , > essentially because no-one understood what it did." > > What a shame! > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:32:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07C25183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O69UkIDxhs/H/aq0zR8gzcZtGv7ve27FhyIV5Itml+k=; b=Tq5SaR4WHpAY0Rhd5fCEef0X+Iq7hFELhJPeorYLMnz5yQcb6TosCFD2tBfxdnASAW XiGYkmIQcdLMShJRLoX2HR/RzmdAlLfVJqNkxt0CzB8Q8VR/NQpgYEBdE2cMNfEAqehQ 3gBSJDPbjGnuUdcNunaduHmozCBNR4BGfxEok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ox8iWa5GwVdXx100Kx0QsPrPdUBS/GTsKYI6/IsKf/+RptUTfhaNtZJ4PkGBgxNmOs 4BtPz2ejpxNlFh8rdfDOEIf+wg8w6grVqi0TpLC1Bq/atjHJddcKivVQeDRqtybgBQ5+ EoKibwuojCDuekZOwbvxqT7JB0elX6R/Esjxo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:31:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ustreamers From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca2a4c7d915049dbfa309 Resent-Message-ID: <_JaBnD.A.vjB.QOncNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:32:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ca2a4c7d915049dbfa309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Steve, you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed?! I am thinking of switching to cable from dsl for that very reason. I am maxed at .860 kbps up :( I would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO you need plenty of headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the show skipping/lagging ruins it! That said sometimes it is Ustreams fault but mostly it's not :) best, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my connection, but I WAS wrong about > everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 mbps, which is > about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder settings - I > have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be able > to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection. > > I suppose that meas the occasional problems I had in the past were not due, > as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I was blaming my ISP, when I > should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own incompetance. > > Thanks for putting me right, Jeff. > > And Andy, ignore all I said before and get Ustreaming! > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jeff Duke > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:14 PM > *Subject:* Re: ustreamers > > Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would give a > lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed! > I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. > The upstream is the important one here. > > For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over quality. > Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload used is under > .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if I > want (using a public server) which might add another 100 kpbs up so still > safe. > > So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 > kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am surprised that > your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than up. > > my .02 units worth, > > J > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes > wrote: > >> Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You >> really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed >> is less important. >> >> So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for >> Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. >> >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM >> Subject: ustreamers >> >> >> Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but >> anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 >> mbps. That aint fast enough is it? >> >> Andy o >> >> > --20cf307ca2a4c7d915049dbfa309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed?! I am thinking of= switching to cable from dsl for that very reason. I am maxed at .860 kbps = up :(

I would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO = you need plenty of headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the sh= ow skipping/lagging ruins it!

That said sometimes it is Ustreams fault but mostly it's not :)
=
best,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at= 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my= connection, but=20 I WAS wrong about everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 = mbps,=20 which is about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder setti= ngs -=20 I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be ab= le to=20 broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection.
=A0
I suppose that meas the occasional pro= blems I had=20 in the past were not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I= was=20 blaming my ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own= =20 incompetance.
=A0
Thanks for putting me right, Jeff.
=A0
And Andy, ignore all I said before and= get=20 Ustreaming!
=A0
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:= 14=20 PM
Subject: Re: ustreamers

Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. = I=20 would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!
I= =20 broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. = The=20 upstream is the important one here.

For broadcast I use the Flash = Media=20 Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kb= ps=20 stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some head= room=20 to bring in a Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which migh= t add=20 another 100 kpbs up so still safe.

So have we got our megs and kil= os=20 mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for t= he upside=20 of your connection. I am surprised that your down is the same, usually it= 's=20 much faster down than up.

my .02 units worth,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk>=20 wrote:
Andy, I'm a= fraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for=20 Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit fast= er.=20 Download speed is less important.

So, I'm sorry to say, whil= e you're=20 at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be= =20 difficult for you.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- Fro= m:=20 "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday,=20 March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: ustreamers


Hey you ustrea= mers=20 out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but
anyway, I am in= BFE=20 and my upload and download are about the same, .7
mbps. That aint fa= st=20 enough is it?

Andy=20 o



--20cf307ca2a4c7d915049dbfa309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:41:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6C13183465; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JZ+jSYvEbviAlMyGDO79lHelcTo34MTvcq7cNgju/qg=; b=KRi28mEmnhiAOLXnv+qVZBdPHv7mT1l3xLMZIQJbX6srFV7x5upmFRS3fJ/yus0BRe jotBaIBGgZCr3Qod3ssrru3MpAbqHEIc87VIGPMvrVAd5W5rO/GI+yhxcPN77TLhNNGf DlBjOyCB+LOUTtGEt6WoUeE6dPMdUA6uH2nic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ae8dsB4mcltRghG8p9TepGd90zxCtpR9kEQNERO/EiPhTqCV+O2YcPnzxvT66289Bw T3JtJ9cw23AP2IlO9dIWefKv8u6c6RbC9yqkpgU6Hn6Ge/Yk5Nm7L7iU51mwqmWMplLG XxWmanmudL5esw7ubgpMp2jaPVG1hCVrjFFAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:41:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ustreamers From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec501631fd4d19b049dbfc434 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:41:14 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec501631fd4d19b049dbfc434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh and Andy, the best way is to test broadcast a lot before the show. Use the FME and record your local copy with it. Also don't forget as I have often to record the Ustream copy for later viewing. This is where you will learn what you can do. You will get a better idea of what you are capable of this way far more than just doing the numbers. With the FME you also have an audio vu meter to make sure of optimum signal without clipping as far as the audio. The FME with Ustream is a bit tricky but easy once you do it a couple of times and worth it. Always start the FME broadcasting first, followed by the Ustream console which will (usually) pick it up quickly. J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my connection, but I WAS wrong about > everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 mbps, which is > about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder settings - I > have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be able > to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection. > > I suppose that meas the occasional problems I had in the past were not due, > as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I was blaming my ISP, when I > should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own incompetance. > > Thanks for putting me right, Jeff. > > And Andy, ignore all I said before and get Ustreaming! > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jeff Duke > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:14 PM > *Subject:* Re: ustreamers > > Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would give a > lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed! > I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. > The upstream is the important one here. > > For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over quality. > Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload used is under > .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if I > want (using a public server) which might add another 100 kpbs up so still > safe. > > So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 > kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am surprised that > your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than up. > > my .02 units worth, > > J > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes > wrote: > >> Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. You >> really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. Download speed >> is less important. >> >> So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for >> Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. >> >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM >> Subject: ustreamers >> >> >> Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but >> anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, .7 >> mbps. That aint fast enough is it? >> >> Andy o >> >> > --bcaec501631fd4d19b049dbfc434 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh and Andy, the best way is to test broadcast a lot before the show. Use t= he FME and record your local copy with it. Also don't forget as I have = often to record the Ustream copy for later viewing. This is where you will = learn what you can do.=A0 You will get a better idea of what you are capabl= e of this way far more than just doing the numbers. With the FME you also h= ave an audio vu meter to make sure of optimum signal without clipping as fa= r as the audio. The FME with Ustream is a bit tricky but easy once you do i= t a couple of times and worth it. Always start the FME broadcasting first, = followed by the Ustream console which will (usually) pick it up quickly.
J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, St= eve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my= connection, but=20 I WAS wrong about everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 = mbps,=20 which is about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder setti= ngs -=20 I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be ab= le to=20 broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection.
=A0
I suppose that meas the occasional pro= blems I had=20 in the past were not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I= was=20 blaming my ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own= =20 incompetance.
=A0
Thanks for putting me right, Jeff.
=A0
And Andy, ignore all I said before and= get=20 Ustreaming!
=A0
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:= 14=20 PM
Subject: Re: ustreamers

Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. = I=20 would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!
I= =20 broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream connection. = The=20 upstream is the important one here.

For broadcast I use the Flash = Media=20 Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kb= ps=20 stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some head= room=20 to bring in a Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which migh= t add=20 another 100 kpbs up so still safe.

So have we got our megs and kil= os=20 mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for t= he upside=20 of your connection. I am surprised that your down is the same, usually it= 's=20 much faster down than up.

my .02 units worth,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk>=20 wrote:
Andy, I'm a= fraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for=20 Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit fast= er.=20 Download speed is less important.

So, I'm sorry to say, whil= e you're=20 at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be= =20 difficult for you.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- Fro= m:=20 "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday,=20 March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: ustreamers


Hey you ustrea= mers=20 out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, but
anyway, I am in= BFE=20 and my upload and download are about the same, .7
mbps. That aint fa= st=20 enough is it?

Andy=20 o



--bcaec501631fd4d19b049dbfc434-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:43:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73128183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4E7093571F1745A393EC0111F9F65B1C@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net><003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:44:01 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01CBDB5C.E9A770D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3508.1109 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3508.1109 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:43:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CBDB5C.E9A770D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, it=E2=80=99s 800K. I don=E2=80=99t even encode the video for that, = keeping down round 300-400K. I can say only once that it=E2=80=99s been = a Ustream problem =E2=80=93 during a big promo they were running just = when I was playing... From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:31 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: ustreamers Steve, you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed?! I am thinking = of switching to cable from dsl for that very reason. I am maxed at .860 = kbps up :( I would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO you need = plenty of headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the show = skipping/lagging ruins it! That said sometimes it is Ustreams fault but mostly it's not :) best, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes = wrote: Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my connection, but I WAS wrong about = everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 mbps, which is = about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder settings - = I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be = able to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection. I suppose that meas the occasional problems I had in the past were not = due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I was blaming my = ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own = incompetance. Thanks for putting me right, Jeff. And Andy, ignore all I said before and get Ustreaming! Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: ustreamers Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would = give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!=20 I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection. The upstream is the important one here. For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over = quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload = used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a = Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which might add another = 100 kpbs up so still safe. So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps = is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I am = surprised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster down than = up. my .02 units worth, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes = wrote: Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. = You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. = Download speed is less important. So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for = Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" = To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I = did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, = .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CBDB5C.E9A770D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, it=E2=80=99s 800K.  I don=E2=80=99t even encode the video = for that, keeping down=20 round 300-400K.  I can say only once that it=E2=80=99s been a = Ustream problem =E2=80=93=20 during a big promo they were running just when I was playing...
 
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: ustreamers
 
Steve,=20 you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed?! I am thinking of = switching=20 to cable from dsl for that very reason. I am maxed at .860 kbps up = :(

I=20 would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO you need = plenty of=20 headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the show = skipping/lagging=20 ruins it!

That said sometimes it is Ustreams fault but mostly = it's not=20 :)

best,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes = <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.= uk>=20 wrote:
Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my = connection,=20 but I WAS wrong about everything else. I just tested my connection and = got 1.9=20 mbps, which is about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media = Encoder=20 settings - I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, = so I=20 should be able to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps = connection.
 
I suppose that meas the occasional = problems I had=20 in the past were not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It = seems I=20 was blaming my ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or = my own=20 incompetance.
 
Thanks for putting me right, = Jeff.
 
And Andy, ignore all I said before = and get=20 Ustreaming!
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, = 2011 4:14=20 PM
Subject: Re: ustreamers
 
Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units = here. I=20 would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed! =
I=20 broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection. The=20 upstream is the important one here.

For broadcast I use the = Flash=20 Media Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 kbps, = audio is 192=20 kbps stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps which leaves me = some=20 headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if I want (using a public = server)=20 which might add another 100 kpbs up so still safe.

So have we = got our=20 megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 mbps is 700 kbps, = plenty o'=20 speed for the upside of your connection. I am surprised that your = down is=20 the same, usually it's much faster down than up.

my .02 units = worth,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes = <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> = wrote:
Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit = slow for=20 Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit = faster.=20 Download speed is less important.

So, I'm sorry to say, = while=20 you're at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks like = Ustream=20 will be difficult for you.

Steve

----- Original = Message=20 ----- From: "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent:=20 Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: = ustreamers


Hey you=20 ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did, = but
anyway,=20 I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the same, = .7
mbps.=20 That aint fast enough is it?

Andy=20 o


 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CBDB5C.E9A770D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 17:52:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7C5183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e401cbdb5e$149c0890$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30F63@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net><003701cbdb19$d2adc520$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><00c001cbdb53$dbbb8820$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Subject: Re: ustreamers Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:52:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01CBDB5E.14010110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110305-0, 05/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <9khYWC.A.mJC.IhncNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01CBDB5E.14010110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 Steve, you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed? Yes. It's cable. I would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO you need = plenty of headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the show = skipping/lagging ruins it! Agreed. That said sometimes it is Ustreams fault but mostly it's not :) Again you are correct, Jeff. It may have been more often Ustream's = fault a couple of years ago, but not so much now... Cheers Steve On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes = wrote: Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my connection, but I WAS wrong about = everything else. I just tested my connection and got 1.9 mbps, which is = about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash Media Encoder settings - = I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo for audio, so I should be = able to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps connection. I suppose that meas the occasional problems I had in the past were = not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. It seems I was blaming = my ISP, when I should have been blaming either Ustream, or my own = incompetance. Thanks for putting me right, Jeff. And Andy, ignore all I said before and get Ustreaming! Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: ustreamers Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units here. I would = give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed!=20 I broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection. The upstream is the important one here. For broadcast I use the Flash Media Encoder for good control over = quality. Video is 300 kbps, audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload = used is under .500 mbps which leaves me some headroom to bring in a = Ninjam session if I want (using a public server) which might add another = 100 kpbs up so still safe. So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what here? :). .7 = mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your connection. I = am surprised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster down = than up. my .02 units worth, J On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve Moyes = wrote: Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit slow for Ustream. = You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally a bit faster. = Download speed is less important. So, I'm sorry to say, while you're at the British Forum for = Ethnomusicology, it looks like Ustream will be difficult for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" = To: Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: ustreamers Hey you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I = did, but anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about the = same, .7 mbps. That aint fast enough is it? Andy o ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01CBDB5E.14010110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Duke=20

Steve, you are saying that you have a 1.9 M upload speed?
 
Yes. It's cable.

I would lower your video to 200-300 max with a .7 though. IMO = you=20 need plenty of headroom there. Video takes a backseat and having the = show=20 skipping/lagging ruins it!
 
Agreed.

That said sometimes it = is Ustreams=20 fault but mostly it's not :)
 
Again you are correct, Jeff. It may have been = more often=20 Ustream's fault a couple of years ago, but not so much=20 now...

Cheers
 
Steve
 


 
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steve Moyes = <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.= uk>=20 wrote:
Well Jeff, I wasn't wrong about my = connection,=20 but I WAS wrong about everything else. I just tested my connection = and got=20 1.9 mbps, which is about what I expected. Then I checked my Flash = Media=20 Encoder settings - I have it at 500 kbps for video and 192 stereo = for audio,=20 so I should be able to broadcast that with Andy's .7 mbps=20 connection.
 
I suppose that meas the occasional = problems I=20 had in the past were not due, as I thought, to lack of upload speed. = It=20 seems I was blaming my ISP, when I should have been blaming either = Ustream,=20 or my own incompetance.
 
Thanks for putting me right, = Jeff.
 
And Andy, ignore all I said before = and get=20 Ustreaming!
 
Steve
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Jeff Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, = 2011 4:14=20 PM
Subject: Re: = ustreamers

Andy, Steve, we must be thinking in different units = here. I=20 would give a lot for a 1.6 mbps! That's blazing upstream speed! =
I=20 broadcast often with a 10 mbps down and a .860 mbps upstream = connection.=20 The upstream is the important one here.

For broadcast I use = the=20 Flash Media Encoder for good control over quality. Video is 300 = kbps,=20 audio is 192 kbps stereo. So total upload used is under .500 mbps = which=20 leaves me some headroom to bring in a Ninjam session if I want = (using a=20 public server) which might add another 100 kpbs up so still=20 safe.

So have we got our megs and kilos mixed up or what = here? :).=20 .7 mbps is 700 kbps, plenty o' speed for the upside of your = connection. I=20 am surprised that your down is the same, usually it's much faster = down=20 than up.

my .02 units worth,

J

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Steve = Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> = wrote:
Andy, I'm afraid .7 mbps upload speed is a bit = slow=20 for Ustream. You really nead at least around 1.6 upload, ideally = a bit=20 faster. Download speed is less important.

So, I'm sorry = to say,=20 while you're at the British Forum for Ethnomusicology, it looks = like=20 Ustream will be difficult for you.

Steve

----- = Original=20 Message ----- From: "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent:=20 Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:14 AM
Subject: = ustreamers


Hey=20 you ustreamers out there, I was gonna get on there, well I did,=20 but
anyway, I am in BFE and my upload and download are about = the=20 same, .7
mbps. That aint fast enough is it?

Andy=20 = o


------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01CBDB5E.14010110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 19:01:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE6B4183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Calton cases Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-1069442669 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:01:46 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> References: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:01:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-1069442669 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't want an Anvil style case. The Caltons have been great for me, = and it just breaks my heart that the company has turned bad. I will look into Ameritage when I've got some money to spend. Thanks. On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, richard sales wrote: > Hayley got a new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case. Heavy duty. = She's flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up. Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than Calton. >=20 > Of course, there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style = case. They're great. I've had one for 32 years that's been through it = all. Heavy as lead, though.=20 >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-5-1069442669 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hayley got a = new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case.  Heavy duty.  She's = flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up.  Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than = Calton.

Of course, = there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style case. =  They're great.  I've had one for 32 years that's been through = it all.  Heavy as lead, though. 


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-5-1069442669-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 19:32:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96887183463; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_163f51c6-d25b-4fbb-9849-21bdd6eee5b5_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:32:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: , ,<94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2011 19:32:13.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[077C2B00:01CBDB6C] Resent-Message-ID: <6FgiRD.A.7gE.--ocNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:32:15 +0000 (UTC) --_163f51c6-d25b-4fbb-9849-21bdd6eee5b5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling=2C the default wa= y of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need t= o set up source and lenght of sampling=2C something I typically do before i= start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from= source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 = beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl= (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play t= hat back on many (or no) tracks.=20 So when you start playing you will have a setup=2C which of course could al= so include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you li= ke if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when = you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly=2C which is less tha= n great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so tha= t you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording"= mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands=2C no fee= dback control=2C overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla an= d manipulate=2C you can sample from internal tracks=2C main or cue so you c= an for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to on= e track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for th= is track.. What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be se= quenced=2C slicing of sample=2C AMP parameters for playback=2C seemless pic= hshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent tha= n what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a loope= r machine this will be a BEAST..=20 =20 Anders Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders=2C please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the wa= y of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a rea= l looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it = really does first. Antony From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat=2C March 5=2C 2011 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey =20 Date: Fri=2C 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again?=20 = --_163f51c6-d25b-4fbb-9849-21bdd6eee5b5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling=2C the default wa= y of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you =3Bfirst= need to set up source =3Band lenght =3Bof sampling=2C something I = typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa w= as set to sample from source B and length was =3Bdiffrent for a few tre= ack =3Bbut mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you = have to set playback for =3Beach tracl (also someting i do before hand)= so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks. =
So when you start playing you will have a setup=2C which of course could al= so include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you li= ke if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when = you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly=2C which is less tha= n great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so tha= t you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording"= mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands=2C no fee= dback control=2C overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla an= d manipulate=2C you can sample from internal tracks=2C main or cue so you c= an for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to on= e track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for th= is track..
What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be se= quenced=2C slicing of sample=2C AMP parameters for playback=2C seemless pic= hshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent tha= n what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a loope= r machine this will be a BEAST..
 =3B
Anders

Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
S= ubject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working= link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders=2C

please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in t= he way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call = a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure wha= t it really does first.

Antony

= --_163f51c6-d25b-4fbb-9849-21bdd6eee5b5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 20:04:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EF88183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:04:31 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 11:57:47 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <81E0E02D-BC65-4F8A-BE07-413021F031B0@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:04:31 +0000 (UTC) I don't have a Rang, but I've looked at it in my potential drive away = from rack effects. Two interesting points that those with Rangs should = confirm. One good. One not so good. Good: Per loop undo. Which means that in some sense you have up to 8 = loops available (and in the normal configuration) 6 loops. It's just = that only 4 or 3 of them can be playing at a time. Not so good: The Rang has a sound dip at the recording point to make = some loops more seamless but I would imagine that this would interfere = with delay tails and ambient drones. There are work arounds but these = can involve things like recording a blank loop first. There's also the frustration that it offers lots of options but the = control surface doesn't have enough buttons to handle them all. There is = supposedly an expander box coming. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 20:47:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A812183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299358055; bh=At2aWEKyPwIgo2AetAW3f0GwhXuvRWf8DDUE8BCjrnk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5qQ+h0T1r36CsO6vYxv5tD31gEKleuvuRf5FmJXQhKvRqNYggEcHg+c4qFGyMU2BWO9XUTCu7KJ5YIQcM+Q9bzdDcAXJSIb/9aOmWA4jakNerhjJm5m3NFMCC9bfeTPrOffIuk6aWRtATQ1D8bugO5FSvmQHbeW4y27EwFgUXnY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s9N+Q38V+TY9vYMZzTY0gdHjzKEj5Skh9lGg3QLZ8xGc7eecqnn/Ktpy7fk+5FhOYbuuEHoH07CqBRd81Jq+wy6dqSjl8rVZIhFIlFHJo7GpqCV+RNpNs0K+8QNmaEfDhYoO0DlDiejCr8d+027utHc2SfKl9QlmfPpx5kuDEpI=; Message-ID: <986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oXzJJr4VM1k3K0AFq2CfUfHmjl_wXES9k1MpS_la1uO.qJd 1kUuslGwa0NIyxxMmlxF6ocUAytOuTwu_9vixr_lHTnL4nC3tbPKVqzRCUKi aTpKO4tdAl8dM4v7OKG3q8ZOKFgEgDT930nPzoYjhVGaaH9dYgZFdlg5_43n PnhUTdmGKmavxKUNyhBzV7FxlLYFjcDLo4rbRBjea0Sdc2zbC8BcMGLyhOF2 ZpqcgwNTCjD2ZWJBeDa8H3msqx7Wa40yP6wClUmqJcvTmPaojw_axJECWh9k z1Ucm11pMEe_P3prqZ5djxgNHiGX0oXmmynuULxl4LlE3RI0NzvmLzz0O1g- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: , ,<94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:47:35 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-890809537-1299358055=:39736" Resent-Message-ID: <0qdErD.A._RG.pFqcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:47:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-890809537-1299358055=:39736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anders, thank you for the detailed overview, I really appreciate it. Yes, when it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effects like? Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 8:32:13 PM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling, the default way of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need to set up source and lenght of sampling, something I typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks. So when you start playing you will have a setup, which of course could also include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you like if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly, which is less than great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so that you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording" mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands, no feedback control, overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla and manipulate, you can sample from internal tracks, main or cue so you can for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to one track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for this track.. What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be sequenced, slicing of sample, AMP parameters for playback, seemless pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a looper machine this will be a BEAST.. Anders ________________________________ Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders, please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first. Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey ________________________________ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again? --0-890809537-1299358055=:39736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Anders,

thank you for the detailed overview, I really appreciate it. Yes, when it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effects like?

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 8:32:13 PM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling, the default way of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need to set up source and lenght of sampling, something I typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks.
So when you start playing you will have a setup, which of course could also include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you like if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly, which is less than great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so that you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording" mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands, no feedback control, overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla and manipulate, you can sample from internal tracks, main or cue so you can for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to one track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for this track..
What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be sequenced, slicing of sample, AMP parameters for playback, seemless pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a looper machine this will be a BEAST..
 
Anders

Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders,

please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first.

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey
 
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts..
From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

The link didn't work for me. Try again?


--0-890809537-1299358055=:39736-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 20:54:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC22C183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=s5H1Z44BBJYcU15rf+MeRZyCOwecSQcfSNfPEXC+R6I= c=1 sm=1 a=k9TyQOYLBBAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=hiGGu2Y6AAAA:8 a=yFuDAPCIAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=UgfCKLDSsUzAloyeXd0A:9 a=xFo-VndYOA1wNsOfTmsA:7 a=mmUr9txalA01pgNc6jDR8VZq5CoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:53:58 -0800 References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <_xs8JC.A.tgG.oLqcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Amen. I own two . . . still . . . even though I am going software for most other things. On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Lexicon Vortex: > > Rule #1. Never buy just one > Rule #2. See Rule #1 > Rule #3. There is nothing else quite like them, especially when used > in pairs > Rule #4. You will need spares; see Rule #1 > > ...that is all. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: >>>> >>>> Mark: >>>> PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler >> wrote: >>> yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it >>> either in hardware or software. >> >> Andy's Vortex site: >> "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , >> essentially because no-one understood what it did." >> >> What a shame! >> >> Per >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 21:23:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD259183465; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qh6syAUojLpTEHigV32iwoAlT2K6gejX/0BfOmFTswU=; b=HdlWZdJ0Z07woIX+BjjV7wl4AgPgfGLj3ie4MAdJTPr4Zez2N2YPrf6MlDvd7/2vdb k8D8ywNPqFdwOvSJrPgsSP4RZgPYmkXbF+u3rEgGpMYlqvFY4EXw8Ik5Fz10doZ8zZJS 72D++CC8ClA31+SNFjuv5LaqBfNnRRQWBcCTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nnyY2FarFJROD76s58Pl6kd02KiNnBbMIWOO7n6IwDGxkDnM8IeCsrWQTlRPwxgvOM YVGKv6fm7foeZfS+lr3ZvscHPnRk3HkPLb7u7lDidhQ2dPIP2h4Xq9YY4y1m747w2+Z8 Nqh6KAwxGG4eAJTXay5XvrMdvK0ZS8CPk3xY0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7226A9.5090507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cbbcf572ba049dc2d963 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:23:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3071cbbcf572ba049dc2d963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love my two! Thanks Dennis. I was so happy when you finally parted with 2 of your 4 :) On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:53 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Amen. > > I own two . . . still . . . even though I am going software for most othe= r > things. > > > On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > Lexicon Vortex: >> >> Rule #1. Never buy just one >> Rule #2. See Rule #1 >> Rule #3. There is nothing else quite like them, especially when used in >> pairs >> Rule #4. You will need spares; see Rule #1 >> >> ...that is all. >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> >>>>> Mark: >>>>> PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? >>>>> >>>> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler >>> wrote: >>> >>>> yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it >>>> either in hardware or software. >>>> >>> >>> Andy's Vortex site: >>> "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , >>> essentially because no-one understood what it did." >>> >>> What a shame! >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >>> >> --20cf3071cbbcf572ba049dc2d963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love my two! Thanks Dennis. I was so happy when you finally parted with 2= of your 4 :)



On Sat, Mar 5, 2011= at 3:53 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Amen.

I own two . . . still . . . even though I am going software for most other = things.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:

Lexicon Vortex:

Rule #1. Never buy just one
Rule #2. See Rule #1
Rule #3. There is nothing else quite like them, especially when used in pai= rs
Rule #4. You will need spares; see Rule #1

...that is all.

Best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

Mark:
PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again?

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it
either in hardware or software.

Andy's Vortex site:
"The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued ,
essentially because no-one understood what it did."

What a shame!

Per




--20cf3071cbbcf572ba049dc2d963-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 21:43:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EA48183462; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EOyehOrmiyu2D5+k1HzXuwunuwExiqIGCKQq93P9J3o=; b=Ey74rXNAIS5AKCv4WMx8qhBv6ahI74gw4CUvgM4XyZwXmclgE5KBji2mgnSHMSCHWt Dw5z4hIhHoBCNyv6ipW7eSFvznydrNiJuygqy6ihTRMVsWqp7so77PFg0aNaPw6lYYUA 31DN7xgLXEieblFhV2KDwJ9J9947hCvvQy0SQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=c4cPFbKVWPsxFh8Q/cJlSAgYegbfWvdwfd2TOAnKvjnVFcTBCRVXcsa8NwSGWh4RZ3 yAtJpdGpiELOuXNX92HqL0V/KHti8ppZrdvPtb2f6GJoypWIRRYfpDaPegyIJVVpEM+t MMO2dAI4vFEK0PHKNQzNF4Zr1C97Vcog0eLdk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:43:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Z_zwe2eXKmhgmjb8wSaMseX4M8U Message-ID: Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517aca648993e049dc327ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:43:31 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517aca648993e049dc327ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 By the way Per.. I tried your suggestion for gated reverb... On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay > time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. > Per > > Absolutely NOTHING like gated reverb... but absolutely amazing!!! I admit I > had a stupidly long reverb set (20sec) but it only appears when you play.. > so its a bit like having some weird tuned filters, that change your sound > dependant on what you just played!!! Very odd indeed... > but velly velly interesting... and dat iz vat vee like... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec517aca648993e049dc327ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way Per.. I tried your suggestion for gated reverb...

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
Try assign *input= level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay
time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain.
Per

Absolutely NOTHI= NG like gated reverb... but absolutely amazing!!! I admit I had a stupidly = long reverb set (20sec) but it only appears when you play.. so its a bit li= ke having some weird tuned filters, that change your sound dependant on wha= t you just played!!! Very odd indeed...

but velly velly interesting... and dat iz= vat vee like...


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--bcaec517aca648993e049dc327ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 22:01:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 928B6183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5E2x7M4BN8ifZ7mKLpl2apiSdSD7x3Zc9cw7NnVU0uY= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=siYEehuon-RiTwU5S0kA:9 a=0Q8hDwvDWPkezweYle4A:7 a=hRv9NthbfdytfSmEqRUVBbY2AmYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:01:48 -0800 Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: LP2 OR RANG 3 Thread-Index: AcvbgOx7K1FBNkd0EeClYQAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <81E0E02D-BC65-4F8A-BE07-413021F031B0@grubmah.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:01:51 +0000 (UTC) re: the 'not so good' point. This is defeatable with the current software. I turned mine off, and have had no probs doing ambient drones. On 3/5/11 11:57 AM, "Mark Hamburg" wrote: > I don't have a Rang, but I've looked at it in my potential drive away from > rack effects. Two interesting points that those with Rangs should confirm. One > good. One not so good. > > Good: Per loop undo. Which means that in some sense you have up to 8 loops > available (and in the normal configuration) 6 loops. It's just that only 4 or > 3 of them can be playing at a time. > > Not so good: The Rang has a sound dip at the recording point to make some > loops more seamless but I would imagine that this would interfere with delay > tails and ambient drones. There are work arounds but these can involve things > like recording a blank loop first. > > There's also the frustration that it offers lots of options but the control > surface doesn't have enough buttons to handle them all. There is supposedly an > expander box coming. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 22:39:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F58183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:39:00 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9D77DA01-A1FB-4733-AA7F-69C54C60D1CE@grubmah.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:39:03 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > re: the 'not so good' point. This is defeatable with the current = software. > I turned mine off, and have had no probs doing ambient drones. When I read the manual, it sounded like that was just an option for = overdubs (stacks) as opposed to the initial recording. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 22:59:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0D90183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=OW7RxG6uRFYUAX8UmjFpls8QcPGX6Drp/6oAJkahFbY=; b=LDw3iUAHYPZ1FTuOFdBDhRiNhWUjejnlS/vHEWjoCGOOl/Ha3VvLx7nD9uaI6C2Mxl RI23po/2OfpKfcLioVrAnDXTwACnI0y7yqXqT3YkyHzYsuaqDERjGlErZadr9r8moVpw QC1C6lqFgyU5+njhjMKdgBRcg4PeRYBBT51dk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=LdUkFrhfxHVPWBZ/U3zvaZwJmUAprttJvYynKX4jX73OS9/S9Jh1RpHsD3DOiUeaEa h2WGNVA5UFnGRVD5h+SEzj741lpOfShqdS5L1sQxgtIAN4qmHyTPMAiRw+W3Cp8LhWcs mckrXHXt7zQr4ok4Wf59yh0f9nx6Ucx+BAAPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 23:59:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5zwGLOIRtwpFOx1PvTDmRjTgS1s Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e824ccc3220049dc43788 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:59:43 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e824ccc3220049dc43788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This has to be the wrong patch Andy... look at ECHO LVL on MOSAIC A... its set to 1... er.. no echo... no "sound trappage".. I tried this withn 64... still not much... apart from a squiggly morph effect... probably juist the differences between the res rate and depth levels.... On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:21 PM, andy butler wrote: > > Here it is:- > > Play in A then use pedal to morph and trap the sound. > but be careful, sound depends a lot on how you work the ped > > > SWEEP A MOSAIC A > MIX 64 64 > OUTPUT 64 64 > MODFX 64 64 > ECHO LVL 35 1 > MORPH PEDAL > ENV 1 1 > ECHO 1% 3 3 > ECHO 2% 2 5 > FBK 1 18 64 > FBK 2 43 64 > RATE1 6 6 > DEPTH1 48 64 > RES1 28 1 > RATE2 22 22 > DEPTH2 9 9 > RES2 1 43 > > do comment if it doesn't do what you need > > andy -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e824ccc3220049dc43788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has to be the wrong patch Andy... look at ECHO LVL on MOSAIC A... its = set to 1... er.. no echo... no "sound trappage".. I tried this wi= thn 64... still not much...
apart from a squiggly morph effect... probab= ly juist the differences between the res rate and depth levels....



On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:21 PM, andy= butler <akb= utler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

Here it is:-

Play in A =A0then =A0use pedal to morph and trap the sound.
but be careful, sound depends a lot on how you work the ped


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 SWEEP A =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 MOSAIC A
MIX =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
OUTPUT =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
MODFX =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 64 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
ECHO LVL =A0 =A0 =A0 =A035 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1
MORPH =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PEDAL
ENV =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A01
ECHO 1% =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 3 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A03
ECHO 2% =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05
FBK 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 18 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
FBK 2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 43 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
RATE1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06
DEPTH1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A048 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A064
RES1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A028 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1
RATE2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 22 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A022
DEPTH2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9
RES2 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A043 =A0 =A0

do comment if it doesn't do what you need

andy



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--90e6ba6e824ccc3220049dc43788-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 5 23:37:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 543DC183464; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 23:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 374 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 23:37:57 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=tLsyj04/L/SH/N6p42ldY6jXDYWe4pX5hAm6uRA1LKo= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:17 a=gbNtLxI7AAAA:8 a=Ca7168U8AAAA:8 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=VykJEpVHvpCbEmgVz4UA:9 a=ZmcrnJucL2RHNPSuk10A:7 a=4_IgL42NNeL_kyQxG_3SEzeZ6JQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Nf8gQmEI3noA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=XhW5Vdzdvh7GkBPD:21 a=RPCTBxFUHJX5jOIv:21 a=bjue6iMc0PxFzCOyRLaH1w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.76.199.163 From: "Hoby Ebert" Sender: "Hoby Ebert" To: References: <81E0E02D-BC65-4F8A-BE07-413021F031B0@grubmah.com> Subject: RE: LP2 OR RANG 3 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: <5F0C9B9E8752451FBC9F36CEA3DFF92A@HAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <81E0E02D-BC65-4F8A-BE07-413021F031B0@grubmah.com> Thread-Index: AcvbgDtZ0oq0HaV2S2Kzb5weF/19/AAAlfyg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 23:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Here's what the manual says about Undo: 10.9 Undo (Redo) - Assignable to either Bonus button & controlled by a tap or hold Mute the last part stacked on a loop (Undo) - After stacking, press Undo and the last sounds stacked will be removed from the loop, and Undo will blink slow. The "last sounds stacked" is defined as all recorded sounds between two presses of Stack. Restore a muted part (Redo) - Press Undo while it is blinking and the part is restored so it is heard again. Undo stops blinking. When Undo/Redo won't work. 1) If the stack function is used again, the previously stacked part can no longer be disabled or enabled. A) If Undo is NOT blinking when stack is used again, the previously stacked part becomes a permanent part of its loop. B) If Undo is blinking when stack is used again, the previously stacked part is lost and cannot be recovered. Undo stops blinking. 2) If stacking is active and you move from one loop to another, the material stacked on the first loop becomes permanent and cannot be "undone." The Undo function now applies to what you are stacking on the second loop. 3) If a part is stacked while Undo is not assigned to a Bonus button, the part will not respond to Undo if it is assigned later. NOTE - The last stacked part can still be turned on or off after playing or recording other loops. ===== One of the Rang's "optional behaviors" is to change the way it handles loop boundaries in order to enable seamless drones. ===== You can see the whole Rang' manual here: http://www.boomerangmusic.com/E-156%20eManual%20Version2.pdf ===== The "sidecar" which will allow direct access of all features is looking like a reality. Mike Nelson talks about it here: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/boomerang-iii-is-the-live-looper-box-t exas-made-great-video-tutorials/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_c ampaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content= Bloglines and there's what looks like an artist's rendering as well. Hope this helps. hoby -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark@grubmah.com] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 OR RANG 3 I don't have a Rang, but I've looked at it in my potential drive away from rack effects. Two interesting points that those with Rangs should confirm. One good. One not so good. Good: Per loop undo. Which means that in some sense you have up to 8 loops available (and in the normal configuration) 6 loops. It's just that only 4 or 3 of them can be playing at a time. Not so good: The Rang has a sound dip at the recording point to make some loops more seamless but I would imagine that this would interfere with delay tails and ambient drones. There are work arounds but these can involve things like recording a blank loop first. There's also the frustration that it offers lots of options but the control surface doesn't have enough buttons to handle them all. There is supposedly an expander box coming. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 01:33:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98DEF183474; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hqe4pCI7tfToo/fEmHx9HtdCH7bXlqMReBtudjCoCMAEKxmQhBUfMHiWwExYK1rZ; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:24:07 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da94075ce48dcc7c6cfaa5c3aa0fbabdfb866350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 01:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Well said with very few words Dennis........ Ah the lovely confluence of technology and G.A.S. ...... -----Original Message----- >From: Dennis Moser >Sent: Mar 5, 2011 10:24 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch > >Lexicon Vortex: > >Rule #1. Never buy just one >Rule #2. See Rule #1 >Rule #3. There is nothing else quite like them, especially when used in pairs >Rule #4. You will need spares; see Rule #1 > >...that is all. > >Best, > >Dennis > >http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >http://audiozoloft.com >http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > >On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>>> >>>> Mark: >>>> PS: Doesnt it seem quaint to be talking about Vortex again? >> >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andy butler wrote: >>> yup, but then there's never been a replacement for it >>> either in hardware or software. >> >> Andy's Vortex site: >> "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , >> essentially because no-one understood what it did." >> >> What a shame! >> >> Per >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 02:04:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3AF3183465; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1299377043; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=T4ag7Mlzdk3QZYua/CKPAChDp4Q=; b=AcPn0Zcv+Qy1Z846vOGITE/wchPOl1+lKZunsF5MDDOyIbIxpFsybR1WEPMWSsPG OlRmx7ukaXWhkWvrcJ0EE9N7H5SG2sFbi5lAV43g4TZIPG37s6LnZui5ao0Dfq0j; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=STHQe3hemprxncH1aCOzXxA6BAAwjh7/W54CY/t+fLw= c=1 sm=0 a=k9TyQOYLBBAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ELFYz56uvVKOtalXhPMSGQ==:17 a=Eiv25HnquSlV9yr7kvwA:9 a=H64Nti0AuSXTJXTbqY_VTUQit38A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ELFYz56uvVKOtalXhPMSGQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> To: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:04:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acvbodm6vvI8Gb4sQ5S/kU8TfTcM6wAAHnhw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:04:04 +0000 (UTC) I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? I also have a Freeze, which I have been getting better at using these days. Love it! I bet it would be cool to have a few Freeze's placed at various points in one's signal chain, upstream of your loopers. Fun!!! Edward in NJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 02:35:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7539F183465; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b9KvD8TFo4TDxSFGiGf3v1mqxgLOjzzgQ5QpK/bTlt4=; b=IEAQggtyGl+leG9gRrLZwzpc4LpOhjO3Xclkfg7CXDoH8s1yDNsxh9bsOs02Lk1DLS 37DJGHUbdMvrDuIkQ5A4N+a47ZEVcpfHsF45jKhcenhLn2MOfR0ko2DPx2LxpR5gGU3d jhnXbMDd5+E3iPsvmhNIPvxl7eQyCHpTj3q7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dLGvoNcqZx0Kids0E3ctx8d1264ijJs7xYPTmR2ezZwBb0OW34Zcf3z4f33jOtqFLB jb+u7EKBs3N3rd3WOjnHuGVYlRn/5gyaN1LLzcj9Ip+kQ4QdOC6UwDLXehLzSb6X9Nfz q8jM7T+UZtlSHtOEYaYHnxzvE+duqeaj0Ae1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 18:35:10 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Cool track, and nice guitar work! Sounds like it was a lot of fun. Thanks Anders! On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:47 PM, wrote: > Anders, > thank you for the detailed overview, I really appreciate it. Yes, when it > has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation = a > software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effec= ts > like? > Antony > ________________________________ > From: Anders Bergdahl > To: Loopers Delight > Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 8:32:13 PM > Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with work= ing > link...(sorry) > > Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling, the default wa= y > of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you=A0first need= to > set up source=A0and lenght=A0of sampling, something I typically do before= i > start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample fro= m > source B and length was=A0diffrent for a few treack=A0but mostley 32 step= s (2 > beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for=A0each t= racl > (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play > that back on many (or no) tracks. > So when you start playing you will have a setup, which of course could al= so > include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you lik= e > if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when y= ou > sample you need to press track+record simultanusly, which is less than gr= eat > for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so that you = can > record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording" mode as > well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands, no feedback > control, overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla and > manipulate, you can sample from internal tracks, main or cue so you can f= or > exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to one tra= ck > sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for this > track.. > What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be > sequenced, slicing of sample, AMP parameters for playback, seemless > pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffren= t > than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a > looper machine this will be a BEAST.. > > Anders > > ________________________________ > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 > From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with work= ing > link...(sorry) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Anders, > please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the = way > of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a rea= l > looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it > really does first. > Antony > ________________________________ > From: Anders Bergdahl > To: Loopers Delight > Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM > Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with work= ing > link...(sorry) > > http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey > > ________________________________ > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 > Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. > From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > The link didn't work for me. Try again? > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 05:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC2B8183462; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1822 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:19:44 UTC X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 154.5.114.241 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/MstOKohVXLcoh41OzLGLG1pGanowbNkwUlbTYXu0H8= c=1 sm=2 a=7Z0XWjbMAAAA:8 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=OUXYneDTAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=eYYImZmqAAAA:8 a=0xmcyeG7AAAA:8 a=0ghcQHcfAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=t1LC9MSLgxVUvWrLneQA:9 a=O6NjosS24-7mc2My2h_UKXMCa-EA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0UPmF80zbPMA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=053Au2P4wpAA:10 a=ePqU_3ItVtgA:10 a=R1qc3nVtuvoA:10 a=V9OP79lusOsA:10 a=USqQ7tu0TCtTUrr1VfUA:9 a=HbWDpE8R0GD1b8gToSsA:7 a=EQ5JYp9-EADwrre21X9jCkQE0WIA:4 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21--1042786911 Subject: Re: Calton cases Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:20 -0800 In-Reply-To: <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> Message-Id: <75814316-41A4-4751-9526-F8E4BAD83320@glasswing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <0y8W3C.A.yNB.xlxcNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:19:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-21--1042786911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David, well, I wouldn't let Calton get away with 900 Georges either. =20 It looks like Elderly Instruments has them in stock. I suspect they're = way behind and only servicing their big vendors.=20 www.elderly.com You might call Elderly and ask around. Maybe they can find a solution = for you. They have a good rep. richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com www.reverbnation.com/richardsalestreefrogorchestra On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:01 AM, David Gans wrote: >=20 > I don't want an Anvil style case. The Caltons have been great for me, = and it just breaks my heart that the company has turned bad. >=20 > I will look into Ameritage when I've got some money to spend. Thanks. >=20 >=20 > On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, richard sales wrote: >=20 >> Hayley got a new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case. Heavy duty. = She's flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up. Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than Calton. >>=20 >> Of course, there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style = case. They're great. I've had one for 32 years that's been through it = all. Heavy as lead, though.=20 >>=20 >=20 > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-21--1042786911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
It = looks like Elderly Instruments has them in stock.  I suspect = they're way behind and only servicing their big = vendors. 


You might call Elderly and ask around.  Maybe they can find a = solution for you.  They have a good = rep.

richard = sales

On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:01 AM, David Gans wrote:


I don't = want an Anvil style case.  The Caltons have been great for me, and = it just breaks my heart that the company has turned = bad.

I will look into Ameritage when I've got = some money to spend. Thanks.


On = Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, richard sales wrote:

Hayley got a = new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case.  Heavy duty.  She's = flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up.  Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than = Calton.

Of course, = there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style case. =  They're great.  I've had one for 32 years that's been through = it all.  Heavy as lead, though. 


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730





= --Apple-Mail-21--1042786911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 05:51:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40BC183465; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QIPTvOZtxtJ2ZQm5c+G1SAYDKFOKNWhB6YJ+g/iS2xY=; b=kRxZ4tN1HGQjXsQ+rHE9j7vU9Coj9mlnLd1dG1cErI/Fbub09dDvf2n7CaMSGeW5MU UzmeIGEgtV/uwpFQQjw8MHJdPkJj+LVw2+d1YRCkc9eRpyWTz9l5dg/a8S7hnFYMzcfy bH5KZyMHLcwiq0zh4hQaOMVW9m76Rm38/5wX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GmRgbvLYrg4YbmD27CTx16yA4x7A2I/TpWJ4IPqH5zSUE4+Mon6SvjDIEeOmb5ENsx 2mf/qveviflcKtMLEC9dEQCDrlKJpsoXV8CEvPeIRa/pH84OHcuLXstnvaAXFLxJfX5c vbR9uxTSX7ZmVTUoMpvIh1Yxc1N61PQ3tRSEQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:51:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1y4VLB.A.BuB.nDycNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Ed, They (along with the Lexicon Jamman) are very sensitive as to their input settings...they're really kind of eccentric bits of gear...if there is tone suckage, I'd recommend trying to just play through the Vortex and tweak it to get it right... And as everyone else has been saying (and why I still own two of them; I'm down from four), there is simply nothing out there that does the same thing, neither hardware nor software (and believe us, it's not from lack of looking and trying to find a replacement for them!). Play with it and enjoy it...they really are quite special. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:04 PM, ejyuhas wrote: > > I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to > suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? > > I also have a Freeze, which I have been getting better at using these days. > Love it! I bet it would be cool to have a few Freeze's placed at various > points in one's signal chain, upstream of your loopers. Fun!!! > > Edward in NJ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 05:55:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CB98183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lAtKL6FdGX2XsJihSk8Rv4DZZc1jt8PtSAySsVRFLvE=; b=COLr+xTlcShtL/kbroD8lVQm7K8c+GK71UgSye6OeTZNcbJAQmvWxSOsHcuRKTZq8e Nn3zVZd79mxY3uc/OYTIVRfMlW37lIVhdt6mMM7CatCTlfLyOE3EqxH9Ijs+qwbwNmec DIHXr4GKcnYeTUOq14K9B6m0uvAiiOXbmMkPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dLXPa3HHdI/1p3lJVeu8mHnBu8zy5J6BzKkYF3Ua2q0WPMG0lQVtZJ6TygFLAYQhHM Qqt/KR7oq/2aJC4ayfy2EiPYxvNUBReFr6DTiSy3+2JeqXauCgGqzqzM3CorvTOCLGx9 2u8nY7ZQuIOZhNJTjWjgk9eYEx4RzBW8+WpeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:55:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:55:06 +0000 (UTC) I'm not in the habit of doing this, but this album was one of my first serious attempts at using the Vortex...it's ONLY a pair of Vortexes and my first electric guitar, a Fender Squire and an Ebow...I used a pair of Morley A/B switches to route the signal around and recorded straight to hard drive. http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-ambient-guitar-vol-i/id152016640 ...just to continue with what Andy had pointed out about using the Vortex. Enjoy! Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Ed, > > They (along with the Lexicon Jamman) are very sensitive as to their > input settings...they're really kind of eccentric bits of gear...if > there is tone suckage, I'd recommend trying to just play through the > Vortex and tweak it to get it right... > > And as everyone else has been saying (and why I still own two of them; > I'm down from four), there is simply nothing out there that does the > same thing, neither hardware nor software (and believe us, it's not > from lack of looking and trying to find a replacement for them!). > > Play with it and enjoy it...they really are quite special. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:04 PM, ejyuhas wrote: >> >> I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to >> suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? >> >> I also have a Freeze, which I have been getting better at using these days. >> Love it! I bet it would be cool to have a few Freeze's placed at various >> points in one's signal chain, upstream of your loopers. Fun!!! >> >> Edward in NJ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 08:16:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA506183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vuOhqztQyB3P+X5XrnukpIPP83ZXQfLDzWHNjtl9smw=; b=p3vpnNNLfDXqequDzor2xl/mpoceQTbbLCimWVCSniHBs2m5zAsrjny1AAfUzATxRQ dM1PNBm1wkQPoVn2qWxnyfyEpE1yMmatNHvlSG8mVbRawCXO/QlBYfqJeSM0+IyEvY/N gsNg3M0vuBoTGNmEDjFLAjmOtUQLNXd01dNcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=iJ5hGNWn+1zPs+8ObNdggbKb/qbjYnkiem+wkKSpmdLdN78NhvDqS6MSnHSwqzTvMo NtIGwceFBJSn5xZfcCJsCht8QuO69NZTPtbWckkdAhMy8P6PXiLNIgNh3h7WpwxI8xGz UwN3tnfkOnbpKJ/G4K3c+uSK43aCyJeOkDNvY= References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:15:32 +0100 Message-ID: <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Well it doesnt have a true bypass, so that might be ut? But Im afraid i never understand the statement ...it sucks my tone... What do guitarists mean? What tone? The tone of the original guitar? As in bass And treble tone? Or some magical other tone? Its annoying that things dont have true bypass cos then you have to deal with multiple gain controls, But does the Sound change, i dunno... You just bought a Vortex... Do You want the Sound to stay the same? No sarcasm here... Educate me? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 6 Mar 2011, at 03:04, "ejyuhas" wrote: > > I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to > suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? > > I also have a Freeze, which I have been getting better at using these days. > Love it! I bet it would be cool to have a few Freeze's placed at various > points in one's signal chain, upstream of your loopers. Fun!!! > > Edward in NJ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 08:30:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A195A183466; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-06_02:2011-03-04,2011-03-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103060000 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:29:10 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Have you ever played through a tube screamer with the effect off? That's tone suckage. Sounds like you turned your tone control on your guitar to -10 t ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:15 AM Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch > Well it doesnt have a true bypass, so that might be ut? But Im afraid > i never understand the statement ...it sucks my tone... What do > guitarists mean? What tone? The tone of the original guitar? As in > bass And treble tone? Or some magical other tone? Its annoying that > things dont have true bypass cos then you have to deal with multiple > gain controls, But does the Sound change, i dunno... You just bought a > Vortex... Do You want the Sound to stay the same? > > No sarcasm here... Educate me? > > Mark > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 6 Mar 2011, at 03:04, "ejyuhas" wrote: > >> >> I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems >> to >> suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? >> >> I also have a Freeze, which I have been getting better at using these >> days. >> Love it! I bet it would be cool to have a few Freeze's placed at various >> points in one's signal chain, upstream of your loopers. Fun!!! >> >> Edward in NJ >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 10:55:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A569183473; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_75e65a6b-3f7b-42ef-94ae-1a38caae167d_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:55:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: , ,<94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2011 10:55:19.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBD50E80:01CBDBEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:55:21 +0000 (UTC) --_75e65a6b-3f7b-42ef-94ae-1a38caae167d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the sampling limitation are sofware limitations=2C and in part due= to RAM limitations on the Flex machines. For longer samples it would be ni= ce to record direct to card. I really like the effects you can also let LF= O affect a lot of effect parameters in a beat synced way. The LFO can also = be applied to pitch=2C staring point and the rate=2C rate goes from "normal= " or realtime to slow down to full reverse.. it's really cool to map these = thing to scenes and control it with the crossfader=2C or map the to sequenc= er steps so that you reverse just=2C for example=2C 1/4 of the sample... or= again asign it to an LFO which you can design with its own pattern. And i = haven't even started using sample slicing=2C micro timing=2C different time= signatures on two track for polyryhtms... MUch fun can be had with this device...=20 Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 12:47:35 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders=2C thank you for the detailed overview=2C I really appreciate it. Yes=2C when = it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation= a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effe= cts like? Antony From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat=2C March 5=2C 2011 8:32:13 PM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling=2C the default wa= y of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need t= o set up source and lenght of sampling=2C something I typically do before i= start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from= source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 = beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl= (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play t= hat back on many (or no) tracks.=20 So when you start playing you will have a setup=2C which of course could al= so include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you li= ke if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when = you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly=2C which is less tha= n great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so tha= t you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording"= mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands=2C no fee= dback control=2C overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla an= d manipulate=2C you can sample from internal tracks=2C main or cue so you c= an for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to on= e track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for th= is track.. What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be se= quenced=2C slicing of sample=2C AMP parameters for playback=2C seemless pic= hshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent tha= n what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a loope= r machine this will be a BEAST..=20 =20 Anders Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders=2C please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the wa= y of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a rea= l looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it = really does first. Antony From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat=2C March 5=2C 2011 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey =20 Date: Fri=2C 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again?=20 = --_75e65a6b-3f7b-42ef-94ae-1a38caae167d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think =3B the sampling limitation are sofware limitations=2C and in p= art due to RAM limitations on the Flex machines. For longer samples it woul= d be nice to record direct to card. =3B I really like the effects you c= an also let LFO affect a lot of effect parameters in a beat synced way. The= LFO can also be applied to pitch=2C staring point and the rate=2C rate goe= s from "normal" or realtime to slow down to full reverse.. it's really cool= to map these thing to scenes and control it with the crossfader=2C or map = the to sequencer steps so that you reverse just=2C for example=2C =3B1/= 4 of the sample... or again asign it to an LFO which you can design with it= s own pattern. And i haven't even started using sample slicing=2C micro tim= ing=2C different time signatures on two track for polyryhtms...
MUch fun can be had with this device...

Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 12:47:35 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
S= ubject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working= link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders=2C

thank you for the detailed overview=2C I really appreciate it. Yes=2C = when it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limit= ation a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the= effects like?

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <= =3Banders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>=3B
To: Loopers Delight <=3Bloopers-delight@loopers-delight.co= m>=3B
Sent: Sat=2C Mar= ch 5=2C 2011 8:32:13 PM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with workin= g link...(sorry)

Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling=2C the default wa= y of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you =3Bfirst= need to set up source =3Band lenght =3Bof sampling=2C something I = typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa w= as set to sample from source B and length was =3Bdiffrent for a few tre= ack =3Bbut mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you = have to set playback for =3Beach tracl (also someting i do before hand)= so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks. =
So when you start playing you will have a setup=2C which of course coul= d also include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as yo= u like if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then w= hen you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly=2C which is less= than great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so= that you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima record= ing" mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands=2C no= feedback control=2C overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampl= a and manipulate=2C you can sample from internal tracks=2C main or cue so y= ou can for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track t= o one track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that fo= r this track..
What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effe= cts that can be sequenced=2C slicing of sample=2C AMP parameters for playba= ck=2C seemless pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said = a bit diffrent than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sa= mpling and a looper machine this will be a BEAST..
 =3B
Anders
Date: Sat=2C 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
S= ubject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working= link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders=2C

please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in t= he way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call = a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure wha= t it really does first.

Antony


= --_75e65a6b-3f7b-42ef-94ae-1a38caae167d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 11:51:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC6B2183463; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585378446/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikCAGsEc01YbRta/2dsb2JhbAAMmGDMVoViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,271,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585378446" Message-ID: <4D737548.3010908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:51:36 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D71118B.9040403@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:51:35 +0000 (UTC) ok, I have to find the 'special booklet'. ...... That checks out apart from MIX being 32 on both patches. Also it suggests MORPH values of 27 if morphing without the pedal. ... So I reckon the wrong bit is "play in A then..." which should be "play in B then..." ...try working the pedal in the opposite direction, see if that works. andy mark francombe wrote: > This has to be the wrong patch Andy... look at ECHO LVL on MOSAIC A... > its set to 1... er.. no echo... no "sound trappage".. I tried this withn > 64... still not much... > apart from a squiggly morph effect... probably juist the differences > between the res rate and depth levels.... > Here it is:- > > Play in A then use pedal to morph and trap the sound. > but be careful, sound depends a lot on how you work the ped > > > SWEEP A MOSAIC A > MIX 64 64 > OUTPUT 64 64 > MODFX 64 64 > ECHO LVL 35 1 > MORPH PEDAL > ENV 1 1 > ECHO 1% 3 3 > ECHO 2% 2 5 > FBK 1 18 64 > FBK 2 43 64 > RATE1 6 6 > DEPTH1 48 64 > RES1 28 1 > RATE2 22 22 > DEPTH2 9 9 > RES2 1 43 > > do comment if it doesn't do what you need > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 12:08:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30A0718345F; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pdZD7+AKbDKXhlKF8Mar74K2eK2PEyB9NG8MiEZjQUI=; b=RcvUV9J4kEz+kqUhF4XuN8LGMB0rUqKNMZKKSnYOcdIZzrxEM350UiPCYBRHNwKs8q o0SOdqEu7OJDxPL5Wsw4Wh45thyFa6AkX6xMOsxWNwpzRa4WUN1cpUaXItpIt9WeliG/ SvQVaeQpKTM4D44/D7yy2fFUVn6S0pqG9X8R4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ChClFphGPuqxy43rT7yRuf/n33vFycTCrJQD/xTXbjfmPzmWcbs0HB0N4shL2ff0EQ 5aUHgwg//S6TlL3B2fNWuA+ktgMs3Y//yo4PFMQmjwPk5bsIoyMEVBgpjptU/WzDZV1F mGTZE4hvswt3TOed07RVmU3ObM78mUPP0+2X8= Message-ID: <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:08:23 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > No sarcasm here... Educate me? > 'sucking tone' is a term that I've only heard from guitarists so far, and which they use to describe an (unwanted) effect on the guitar sound when going through some box (which can be an effect, or an amp, or a cable etc.). One aspect of tone suckage is less high frequency content, another one might be loss of dynamic range, often not as this effect per se but low dynamics masked in noise perceived as a loss of dynamic range, some change in the way your guitar signal chain responds to your playing, or tube voodoo. The most famous kind of tone sucking is plugging your guitar into a low impedance input (e.g. mixer or soundcard) in combination with a guitar with passive electronics, possibly even a vintage one. This will inevitably lead to a high-frequency rolloff. With regard to the Vortex, this could be: * if you plug directly into the Vortex, then the high-frequency rolloff as described above will happen. * the Vortex is specified with a dynamic range of 83dB. Others have already mentioned that it tends to distort audibly and uglily if you overload the converters - so unless you use a compressor/limiter in front of it, people typically keep a lot of headroom - which, with other effects and noise buildup, could have negative effects on the dynamic range. * the Vortex is not an all-tube and a digital device, so that tube voodoo would also apply here... The tone suckage is only relevant if you have the device in an insert (as opposed to send) configuration, so it did never apply to me (in my equipment logistics paradigm, there's rack device -> rack -> mixer). Aren't you a guitarist, Mark? I'm really surprised that you don't know of the antichrist of tone suckage ;). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 12:20:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A316183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:20:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:20:12 +0000 (UTC) > Andy's Vortex site: > >> "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , > >> essentially because no-one understood what it did." What a shame! This comment got me to thinking about all the innovative musical gear projects that got discontinued much to the detriment of future creativity and innovation. I think, also, of the amazing voice to synth software called Kantos by Antares. Faced with the inability of Midi to incorporate sophisticated voice to Midi VST plugins the engineers at Anatares designed a synthesizer that was able to be played by audio in (no Midi whatsoever). This innovative software was just on the verge of being able to use custom samples to 'morph' with the use of voice when the plugged was pulled by the head of Antares................I was incredibly bummed when this happened. Additionally, the amazing Echoplex EDP was effectively killed by Gibson at a time when a significant hardware upgrade and accompanying Loop V software (yet to be developed) could have made amazing progress in live looping technology. What other instruments besides the Vortex, Kantos and the EDP got squashed in an untimely fashion much to our chagrin? Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 12:42:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C08183462; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9EzDTnc3sS0GERP4Tqfl07BJWUhO+IkUIaRalq3MnmI=; b=rLmxlvWWBu2q/3bZfwjxbmO2r7txFDpHWEvyDLLLjDzuxk8UNHsrEhZkuZKJe4469r OOImhl5tZNMlqMrV5yi80HD9neaxBI6OM9UB/yozQ5dO4bhLY/PL/cD2uBJJegT5Rl1m OU06SF6OgUoSfPrujL8CA7PKwVFFUcNHWDBUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RrmtvDT9oBi4OoFg3gjwvnIypZVjHPtx+h9ilUPhicFl5sBEKxn7/2UUA1RgsKNGvZ 2Nzz71jF/htnIsIWVZG8mgfHqNWwXVa19CysHv4uUUZfeeRzqAGWtIzPaVzPO50JYwjB EHELCfhe9EcG9CfQhDtQigO6gba7qebUnachI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:42:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:42:58 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > What other instruments besides the Vortex, Kantos and the EDP got squashed > in an untimely fashion much to our chagrin? Well, the Elecrixpro Repeater for one... And being an internet collab pioneer I remember the old Rocketnetwork - that was a sad story of corporate misunderstanding of a product that could have become a big thing if marketed properly. And just recently the electric guitar model Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II was discontinued after just a short period of manufacturing. This is the dual output guitar where you can drive one rig from the classic set of two humbuckers and another rig from the brilliant acoustic Shadow Nanomag pickup built into the neck. No further comments needed, anyone can imagine what holy graal that is to a looping musician. They sold them for peanuts in the stores although this actually is an instrument at the same level as the models that go for around 200-300 USD. I managed to snag me one of those before the stores dried out of them ;-)) Corporate Douche Bags! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 12:45:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F4E2183466; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hS5TBB5m32P1DhxUoiESp/zCDjyWerpDK32/CQdKGAY=; b=YC5uMjP5DZhHrDqU9ZAOQH37c060qUtV9QW1R030eQ47b0vY3SEM7moDWFvVzDgntL r9x8rZZwPeVzDV7Jf4rjEvmPrxbgMcWcq/M5Bdi2tb3TRlVcG+tSCChG4MsK0vZpqakN ek8J7YFeEpv2adnYVKZTdJfXMCvcnjZr8IsQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d/SB6VYWmv+7pHc3Cn/wAmIasWsGZBR7qdMfOh7HBpd4joixLKf/O8DJ0sqL4K5UGE udiytxjWlos+dQnZ7BbeZWiU7OVSNExcKQ8V9lXg4cHymftzlHn7FhgelyFK5RNHXTH+ CawnmzxGNh3q9zslXgzI11axgOoHrCQmn/5RE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:45:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:45:19 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > They > sold them for peanuts in the stores although this actually is an > instrument at the same level as the models that go for around 200-300 > USD. I managed to snag me one of those before the stores dried out of > them ;-)) Corporate Douche Bags! Woopsy! My naughty fingers got me again! TYPO - TYPO! The figure should be 2000-3000 USD. Sorry about that Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 13:01:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CC7D183463; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af3fbfec-be80-491e-b920-74bd1bbac931_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.234.157] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:01:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,<4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2011 13:01:43.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[A48A6320:01CBDBFE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:01:45 +0000 (UTC) --_af3fbfec-be80-491e-b920-74bd1bbac931_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's curiously timely Rick . Monolith is designed to be driven in the sam= e way=2C(sans midi) and I'm adapting it for use with other instruments incl= uding wind instruments and voice following a discussion with my other half = yesterday.. peace G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >=20 > I think=2C also=2C of the amazing voice to synth software called Kantos = by=20 > Antares. >=20 > Faced with the inability of Midi to incorporate sophisticated voice to=20 > Midi VST plugins > the engineers at Anatares designed a synthesizer that was able to be play= ed > by audio in (no Midi whatsoever). > >=20 > Rick Walker >=20 = --_af3fbfec-be80-491e-b920-74bd1bbac931_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's curiously timely Rick . Monolith is designed to be driven in the sam= e way=2C(sans midi) and I'm adapting it for use with other instruments incl= uding wind instruments and voice following a discussion with my other half = yesterday..

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= --_af3fbfec-be80-491e-b920-74bd1bbac931_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 13:02:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9332F183465; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 589041938/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsCAPoTc01YbRta/2dsb2JhbAAMmGDMU4ViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,271,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="589041938" Message-ID: <4D7385D7.3000807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:02:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued - Vortex References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > >> Andy's Vortex site: >> >> "The Vortex was the first of those four units to be discontinued , >> >> essentially because no-one understood what it did." What a shame! > > This comment got me to thinking about all the innovative musical gear > projects > that got discontinued much to the detriment of future creativity and > innovation. Thing about the Vortex was that I don't think it's "special powers" were appreciated by the designers, especially not at the executive level. The supplied factory presets are mostly boring. The ability to Morph from one algorithm to a completely different one is what really sets the Vortex apart, and I reckon that was only intended to create a smooth transition from one sound to the next. The Morphing *could* be emulated of course, really it's just one big algorithm...but it's the easy way a user can select a pair of presets for a Morph that provokes the killer sounds. Just picking 2 favourite sounds and morphing between them can often produces a great range of in between sounds, often with unexpected weirdness. (carefully swept with an expression pedal). The patches which I programmed for a specific purpose have usually been re-usable for alternate fx just by using in a different way, very instrument like. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 13:15:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AF78183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299417310; bh=0AVJ6WzYfKmt9bzIDE+9Vz7O9yk5xGrZEG4s25qa0yM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XM+a6pwwhRELGDkqdwuCOW4jQm1Jlz9Gu8ghqiESWjWI+rjgOMY6vAol2p2dW3yJYMaNPqeBQ0aK4BcZBQGP3Kyk1J4l7KkqBNTb4dvOeIVhs6DKM40ATOtP/PxjfLGjXeJ64HvpaTr6uX1yKKTv3R6UjhFBRy3O7UDVgdvL8w0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MmzEeUORhd/K3UhAZfIUvcAqOBIrW/Fk2aTN7tG2gb0S4KqX9QVWemdJ3qo6SxkBodiJp9DLcwXVS54oh8yPeG0YgUwhF6Kr0j8PXrG9ecs1WFcVeW1SsarNkkl56B7ujoJjmBz+Q+5eT2jsAkCUM36Xk+2/lGIFLcGTtH45Pv4=; Message-ID: <635676.32425.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fyOP1YEVM1nt09nA14QR1h8oeDEelWoFCFs6edsNJEgwGZe nxA61SVa.Gi8zztWnP.1SEyu5lNMv0XFOt5ibOWBklntq0AoicFrV8F4cBM0 C1zAwrNxuXQJftCCsiyCtA0XmLwJWgv5I0qfq5z7_CD6hydBeZLz04BSYiir XQ.E0d.9ShP3h929xGaB9Hjz4g1il1p_ubUN3knr2NkUm6vRUHEms3rhByMi qOIa1VYZjOkNOPiGMHm9mlRHdDbIi6jas962I2750bvSlTqz6nmv1sqlH7AI 7ztbTZZPa8C3X31l2Fp1J_aQpN.aFhJAYcA_JW6rovy_tSJ7xZA8s6DLziA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: , ,<94734.59984.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<986008.39736.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:15:10 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1989654421-1299417310=:32425" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:15:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-1989654421-1299417310=:32425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sounds like the modulaton department is well stacked. From what I understood sampling to the card for live looping has not been considered an option BY THE DESIGNERS. So now it's down to the RAM size. I am really curious to get my hands on one of these beasts! Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:55:18 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) I think the sampling limitation are sofware limitations, and in part due to RAM limitations on the Flex machines. For longer samples it would be nice to record direct to card. I really like the effects you can also let LFO affect a lot of effect parameters in a beat synced way. The LFO can also be applied to pitch, staring point and the rate, rate goes from "normal" or realtime to slow down to full reverse.. it's really cool to map these thing to scenes and control it with the crossfader, or map the to sequencer steps so that you reverse just, for example, 1/4 of the sample... or again asign it to an LFO which you can design with its own pattern. And i haven't even started using sample slicing, micro timing, different time signatures on two track for polyryhtms... MUch fun can be had with this device... ________________________________ Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:47:35 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders, thank you for the detailed overview, I really appreciate it. Yes, when it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effects like? Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 8:32:13 PM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling, the default way of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need to set up source and lenght of sampling, something I typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks. So when you start playing you will have a setup, which of course could also include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you like if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly, which is less than great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so that you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording" mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands, no feedback control, overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla and manipulate, you can sample from internal tracks, main or cue so you can for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to one track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for this track.. What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be sequenced, slicing of sample, AMP parameters for playback, seemless pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a looper machine this will be a BEAST.. Anders ________________________________ Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Anders, please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first. Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey ________________________________ Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The link didn't work for me. Try again? --0-1989654421-1299417310=:32425 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
sounds like the modulaton department is well stacked. From what I understood sampling to the card for live looping has not been considered an option BY THE DESIGNERS. So now it's down to the RAM size. 
I am really curious to get my hands on one of these beasts!

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 11:55:18 AM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

I think  the sampling limitation are sofware limitations, and in part due to RAM limitations on the Flex machines. For longer samples it would be nice to record direct to card.  I really like the effects you can also let LFO affect a lot of effect parameters in a beat synced way. The LFO can also be applied to pitch, staring point and the rate, rate goes from "normal" or realtime to slow down to full reverse.. it's really cool to map these thing to scenes and control it with the crossfader, or map the to sequencer steps so that you reverse just, for example, 1/4 of the sample... or again asign it to an LFO which you can design with its own pattern. And i haven't even started using sample slicing, micro timing, different time signatures on two track for polyryhtms...
MUch fun can be had with this device...

Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:47:35 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders,

thank you for the detailed overview, I really appreciate it. Yes, when it has a dedicated sampler it will be loopedy loo. Is the 16 sec limitation a software thing or does it have to do with onboard RAM? What are the effects like?

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 8:32:13 PM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

Well today the Octa is limitied to 16 seconds of sampling, the default way of sampling is to sample 1-64 sequencer steps. To sample you first need to set up source and lenght of sampling, something I typically do before i start a "song". In this case all tracks on the Octa was set to sample from source B and length was diffrent for a few treack but mostley 32 steps (2 beats) track one was 64 steps. Then you have to set playback for each tracl (also someting i do before hand) so you can sample on one track and play that back on many (or no) tracks.
So when you start playing you will have a setup, which of course could also include tracks with pre-recorded samples taht could be as mong as you like if you don't need to manipulate all parametrs in real time... then when you sample you need to press track+record simultanusly, which is less than great for live use. IN the next major OSupgrade there will bi MIDI so that you can record by MIDI commands and there will be a "real-tima recording" mode as well. There ar very few of the ordinary looping commands, no feedback control, overdub etc.. all you can do at the moment is tp sampla and manipulate, you can sample from internal tracks, main or cue so you can for exanple sample several tracks to one or live audio and a track to one track sto simulate overdub. I didn't use any fancy stuff like that for this track..
What it has that Loopers don't have is sequencer and effects that can be sequenced, slicing of sample, AMP parameters for playback, seemless pichshift down and up one octave... really cool but as said a bit diffrent than what you expect from a looper.. but with better live sampling and a looper machine this will be a BEAST..
 
Anders

Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 04:25:38 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Anders,

please enlighten me and clarify what the Octotrack currently does in the way of live sampling and how that is different from what you would call a real looper. I am very intersted in getting one but I need to be sure what it really does first.

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 10:20:30 AM
Subject: RE: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts.. now with working link...(sorry)

http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/2011-a-guitar-odyssey
 
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:00:34 -0700
Subject: Re: Elektron Octatrack used as a looper of sorts..
From: will.it.go.round@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

The link didn't work for me. Try again?



--0-1989654421-1299417310=:32425-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 13:18:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795E7183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0/8qbupIBGx8uUF+w0nFP4FBVyq56P7CHK5uzY81vcw=; b=KhwwqIgG4Hc87S1j5R3nGf0q8jW+Uf9DNotx1lf+fqQyUT02FmQZg0ctFemC7SRvgc Gek+Wb/3W26Qw7rl6XbDEXGdAiIGrTKrT3kWrOseRyPYV3Z/Aeo69/8ThWLAoT4yOyBn yOO4Nqf+mL5v4ruxFAFoF2m41HpW4au+k1zI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nm61U+ZOBEvwtaDAtUvRIMyuedNpeJxzJ98ltKclOikGxjmW26f25PCwD9wOAjTMmG wFz0RCQwRHfyS47ppdn+uSHDzPUomSa+ChbA9qqvbABGWLO1ip8vyvxn61wqD4K9p3iT 4hZn3gZ4oW3baW7uB9ehR9d5bTh/Ux9vl/uME= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D7385D7.3000807@tiscali.co.uk> References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D7385D7.3000807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:18:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued - Vortex From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9Irn9C.A.SuC.Vm4cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:18:13 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:02 PM, andy butler wrote: > Just picking 2 favourite sounds and morphing between > them can often produces a great range of in between sounds, > often with unexpected weirdness. > (carefully swept with an expression pedal). I'm so into this technique! But in software it kills Mainstage 2 and Biduler/OSX for me so I have to stick with the obsolete Mainstage 1 to get my proper fill of morhing alright. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 13:28:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A13B5183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tFapYn2VLT54t8aq5qFX7zzFpFE4443JWamuUC9q3oo=; b=FVo8qSQqbV8vzfUy9sy4YCgMncX8Ji32xPz4auDkePd5PKReGWx+fmjS3NjpHGB2VF kKEcaZCWGKaH/FPXkz8owH9Tlm8+Ge+X+4MCF29GblA5v8JC/vHBIfx7qwQsCJXGPYXi 3ZDeU4s643jJK5mX2K5UoF0DKzxi28iDo8f00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JRNPKtZPfZTNjjLeP5KNskwmHDQgbdntsPI5/PvHpN4DSyP+zOPBa3PekXcvYyZkOc g3Lp8X/WN8rGjfQWsiV18XyUe1M3eyoUDoHbnTk6rfmFOEVqGRFlFm+j6h9QMOIi6Qco brw2F/TzMLBwpwEcZVgNCGPbeVGbiuInGxtfo= Message-ID: <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:28:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > This comment got me to thinking about all the innovative musical gear > projects > that got discontinued much to the detriment of future creativity and > innovation. The reason here is that the relationship between a development engineer and a product manager is something alike to that between an artist and a record company A&R manager. Well, it's usually not that bad, but similar. Manufacturing and supporting a specific product brings with it a lot of fixed costs (both one-time and per-time), and even more so if the product does not fit in well with the rest of your product line. This seems to be the case in all of the examples mentioned here: Lexicon has its focus on very high priced studio processors, Gibson has its focus on electric guitars, and Antares has its focus on more "normal" processors with a special emphasis on vocals. Similar to the world of record labels, computers have brought a change here to some extent. While in the past, unless you were really crazy and highly talented, you wouldn't just build a Vortex-kinda thing for yourself (and you wouldn't under no circumstances build it for others), software has brought a change here. Both with interesting development/runtime frameworks and the possibility to distribute freely, something like the Kantos dervative you're longing for can be done in PD or Reaktor or MAX/MSP, and (unless it violates Antares copyrights/patents) can also be distributed without any support - on the basis of "if I already did it, I can put it out as well and perhaps even get some money for it". As you mentioned, the EDP got kicked by Gibson - so what? There's Möbius which does a lot of things the EDP does (and more). Want a hardware version? Port Möbius to some kind of platform FPGA eval board (priced around $400) and have fun. And in a wonderful fashion, if someone does that for the fun of it, there are no pre-production costs (or rather, the pre-production costs are his spare time). Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the Vortex btw? -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:17:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 323FE183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585446773/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsCAHEmc01YbRta/2dsb2JhbAAMmGDMb4ViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,271,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585446773" Message-ID: <4D739784.3000104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:17:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Essentially the Vortex *isn't* a stomp box. It's a line level device which also has an input which can handle the guitar. To go Guitar>>>Vortex>>>Guitar Amp It's far from ideal, because when you get the level right for the Vortex it's to loud for your amp input. You'd need some kind of volume control between Vortex and amp to make it work. When in Bypass, the Vortex has a high quality analog buffer, and afaik the impedance is high enough not to cause undue treble loss in a guitar. When switched on, there is a loss of the highest treble, not in the usual guitar range but easily detected if using an analog synth. This is presumably due to filtering needed before the AD conversion, which is to 32kHz The input will give analog distortion if overloaded, rather than digital. andy ejyuhas wrote: > I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to > suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:30:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E41BF183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 589125174/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsCAK4pc01YbRta/2dsb2JhbAAMmGDMcoViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,271,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="589125174" Message-ID: <4D739A6E.7090107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:30:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the > Vortex btw? > I could give you a quote for one :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 101E2183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2040 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:31:52 UTC Message-ID: <4D7394FF.7060502@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:06:55 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > > Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the > Vortex btw? I'm only aware of the fairly limited emulations Lexicon placed in some products, like in the MPX G2 (which I have). andy butler wrote: > > Thing about the Vortex was that I don't think it's "special powers" > were appreciated by the designers, especially not at the executive > level. I think it's very much down to the Vortex being too weird for the general audience, requiring too much understanding and experimentation, plus the most stupid lack of MIDI interfacing (always beats me why..?). > The supplied factory presets are mostly boring. ..which didn't exactly ease adoption to market, being so special.. > The ability to Morph from one algorithm to a completely > different one is what really sets the Vortex apart, > and I reckon that was only intended to create a smooth > transition from one sound to the next. I fully agree. Add to this best envelope follower I've ever seen, which seemingly in a natural way interpretes the players picking frenzy. Effects structure build on two separatly programmable delaylines. Ability to work with extremely short delays making it possible to use it sortof as a digital (FIR) filter. I've tried so many times not having it in my rig, mostly due to lack of MIDI and saving space, but it's still there, hard to be without ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:36:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE261183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uBVMEv5dhfupyrt/w2rih8bm589RMTa3QW59mY/RHew=; b=rEX1DcETEKvv8n2KdXtIC+naKRbkeGWlMggnpm09zIKB7PNIiEl/0H8ZLrHUsZ9ZME opOurh7LcsxQ4cFVnI4Mb/6I/77OZvDWX9Nsg8QtNIgssPRg6Xu0CD4U4U/lGLXxjyuH BFBav0OvVUDiIAf26HIA6SrAHowqJh5AvBOdA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vdAuRMykAYDFmSd5osLcXKDj+W44ebmYLijPV8DJTbGzanlae3i2kVVWkjeumwUrDY Mfccr0eIOF8G7Q0DK9CLcRkyb8x2Aoiuc09WwCWID2O3jVjiRBPqDRR1UMq5n1tOASBG Nu3qfRzkHg774z4DRtmKT+ZbjXNlI6CfzqRZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:35:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eUIBA7Ks8uqYOISeUoYQDhP_eGk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fcc3f534a48049dd14c80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:36:02 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fcc3f534a48049dd14c80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Aren't you a guitarist, Mark? I'm really surprised that you don't know of > the antichrist of tone suckage ;). > > Rainer > Ha HA... I do indeed call myself a guitarist, but from day 1 I used way too many effects to mask... A) Playing ability or lack of... B) Crapness of guitars... and their er... special tone. I suspect that they just mean that theres something about it they dont like, so they say "Its sucks my tone!" I dont think they really know what it is... I mean... guitarists love distortion pedals... er.. dont they suck the guitars tone? what about wah wah... they suck and spit tone alternately I have never owned a Fender (ok I have a Fender bass.) A Gibson, or anything with a special sound. Infact, I always thought they sounded horrible, (With the exception of the strat, which sounds like a totally straight clean guitar, just waiting for effects IMHO). Telecasters sound like clock chimes... Jaguars sound like scissors... Gibsons sound like planks of wood. I like generic, off the shelf, dont sound like nothing, guitars... I run them thru stuff, and then they sound like something... if its too bassy, I put it through something else thats trebly, if its too dry, I add dirt and reverb, I really havent got a clue what the "tone" is... apart from annoying tones that some guitars have, in which case they should have their jacks inserted while holding down all strings which is, as everyone knows the simple way of clearing a guitars bad sound, back to its factory settings... :-) -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba3fcc3f534a48049dd14c80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Aren't you a guitarist, Mark? I'm really surprised= that you don't know of the antichrist of tone suckage ;).

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

Ha HA... I do indeed call myself a guit= arist, but from day 1 I used way too many effects to mask...
A) Playing ability or lack of...
B) Crapness of guitars... and their er... special tone.

I suspect th= at they just mean that theres something about it they dont like, so they sa= y "Its sucks my tone!" I dont think they really know what it is..= .
I mean... guitarists love distortion pedals... er.. dont they suck the guit= ars tone? what about wah wah... they suck and spit tone alternately

I have never owned a Fender (ok I have a Fender bass.) A Gibson, or=20 anything with a special sound.
Infact, I always thought they sounded=20 horrible, (With the exception of the strat, which sounds like a totally=20 straight clean guitar, just waiting for effects IMHO). Telecasters sound like clock chimes...
Jaguars sound like scissors...
Gibsons sound l= ike=20 planks of wood.

I like generic, off the shelf, dont sound like nothing, guitars... I run them thru stuff, and then they sound like something... if its too=20 bassy, I put it through something else thats trebly, if its too dry, I=20 add dirt and reverb, I really havent got a clue what the "tone" i= s...=20 apart from annoying tones that some guitars have, in which case they=20 should have their jacks inserted while holding down all strings which=20 is, as everyone knows the simple way of clearing a guitars bad sound,=20 back to its factory settings...

:-)

--
Mark Francombe=
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--90e6ba3fcc3f534a48049dd14c80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:43:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DF35183465; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Gd+HXB0lZMRlfWeaFH4hpYv5VGdODySMB5i60J/Hw4g=; b=RHfcRWpw8Qg6HEs+C6euGykT2RQnTkZHvPdm/szMEvnwl2vPQNauFM1a79cAlpi95o 30wQwZAEIKvm+e2bo0wcCaqNHCRKGTRdutm5FD8LmLRUQwy3sD0bo8QF+G85nwtie6Gd ozQxX2ND4fQX5JHYdoMOd2ghHs8hBHt0NTttg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=pOkv6USg0JImUgaAtYhhHLFSJma5SD0FbsUIE/3rkG28lJUvjZkp5c7gv0fMf4Vus3 2GzGNHthGSDWO3qV/0LaBr1TYucs9ou4fc04FLaNiTo7W6hKcBemn/sx40JsWwL9iClb /SzdO4zFVUFeW5FWLumDx5eqBqbm5XN1qbr4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D739784.3000104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <4D739784.3000104@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:42:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gey1Ydg3FddIJT3ZrJwK62UnsQw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e824c22519c049dd166c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e824c22519c049dd166c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Andy, I just started routing the Vortex as you describe, rather than effect return... Well not exactly, Im running it after my Fireworx.. now I AM having issues with distortion actually.. now is that due to to high output from the fireworx into the Vortex (PS I LIKE the distortion actually, has a nice warm ampy quality to it.. but.. it shouldnt be there, it has to go...) OR.. is it , as you describe, that the Vortex makes too high an output into my mixer? I think I did cure it by pressing in a pad switch and turning up a bit on the mixer... God I wish I knew WHY things worked, instead of finding everything out via trial and error!!! (People at work say.. How come you knew that 5 clicks of the letter T means "highlight all forwards" in Final Cut... I say.. dunno... just found it out one day...) I'm on my 2nd wife... first was just practicing... Mark On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:17 PM, andy butler wrote: > Essentially the Vortex *isn't* a stomp box. > It's a line level device which also has an > input which can handle the guitar. > > To go Guitar>>>Vortex>>>Guitar Amp > > It's far from ideal, because when you get the level right for the Vortex > it's to loud for your amp input. > > You'd need some kind of volume control between Vortex and > amp to make it work. > > When in Bypass, the Vortex has a high quality analog buffer, > and afaik the impedance is high enough not to cause undue treble > loss in a guitar. > When switched on, there is a loss of the highest treble, not > in the usual guitar range but easily detected if using an > analog synth. This is presumably due to filtering needed > before the AD conversion, which is to 32kHz > The input will give analog distortion if overloaded, > rather than digital. > > andy > > > > ejyuhas wrote: > >> I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to >> suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that? >> > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e824c22519c049dd166c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy, I just started routing the Vortex as you describe, rather than effect= return...

Well not exactly, Im running it after my Fireworx.. now I= AM having issues with distortion actually.. now is that due to to high out= put from the fireworx into the Vortex (PS I LIKE the distortion actually, h= as a nice warm ampy quality to it.. but.. it shouldnt be there, it has to g= o...) OR.. is it , as you describe, that the Vortex makes too high an outpu= t into my mixer? I think I did cure it by pressing in a pad switch and turn= ing up a bit on the mixer...

God I wish I knew WHY things worked, instead of finding everything out = via trial and error!!!
(People at work say.. How come you knew that 5 c= licks of the letter T means "highlight all forwards" in Final Cut= ... I say.. dunno... just found it out one day...)

=A0
I'm on my 2nd wife... first was just practicing...

Ma= rk

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:17 PM, andy b= utler <akbut= ler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Essentially the V= ortex *isn't* a stomp box.
It's a line level device which also has an
input which can handle the guitar.

To go Guitar>>>Vortex>>>Guitar Amp

It's far from ideal, because when you get the level right for the Vorte= x it's to loud for your amp input.

You'd need some kind of volume control between Vortex and
amp to make it work.

When in Bypass, the Vortex has a high quality analog buffer,
and afaik the impedance is high enough not to cause undue treble
loss in a guitar.
When switched on, there is a loss of the highest treble, not
in the usual guitar range but easily detected if using an
analog synth. This is presumably due to filtering needed
before the AD conversion, which is to 32kHz
The input will give analog distortion if overloaded,
rather than digital.

andy



ejyuhas wrote:
I own a Vortex...still have no idea about its proper use!! and it seems to<= br> suck some of my tone...I wonder why? Anyone here experience that?




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--90e6ba6e824c22519c049dd166c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:48:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B178718347F; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VhKKKrAyStX6oaQlwK/7ZjZWilOZvlijjo2xsELHaN8=; b=azbEW8Riew3xcY+6KhfzAvQle+ewx7J2RVHCQggXZxD4lpnxUnVVJh4MYQVq6eRtQh 6TroXvjVlCAWv1lYBUfD3fcd+gDgRc/2rF5kHGAU15rmQt/V3qw22gsvUtuWA8rZmHBi cwpQ4EBMMeOrOnT6EW7I2AVPpRMNtIIp5ZaYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WepLu11+WSBBRunxbcnw2EhLPwRnO5cijmmV7o0t7Vu4iC5P6pUINBvGRZ49efprA1 4p0SdIQ6/z25bTq7HHjflwOQFL8S2RuS0OlAd9qEequraUVAubT262cOKlXzyT9lBQPd RlKBUnX4R8kjfImzLkJb2lS5p4hIlWyuA6saY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:48:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:35 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Telecasters sound like clock chimes... > Jaguars sound like scissors... > Gibsons sound like planks of wood. Plenty of fun stuff there! :-) > I like generic, off the shelf, dont sound like nothing, guitars... I run > them thru stuff, and then they sound like something... LOL! Me, I like the tenor sax sounding like a Tube Of Tooth Paste. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 14:51:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0A9D183487; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=nX6/viR7HTJU37q5+bCgsuxnnnYru2urnUfVfnP3jDQ=; b=qsUbOcb828WGCvoJXY7SXJ05AHC2zxbTCiAf5SaGJFBMbv7KPsyY9w/7TEqA2s2m+L wCnEeJyxN3UJXdUTGUu4IkTceJXB59znxQmEifi3fNPsffASpaE28sF7xlZK6ifCCvSp mn4aYHR2cFX62q3oMuH7n/4sckTnXqPZdwTpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=T0QtKAfG3RQyeJo7jiT7cirhB+Nl5ICCyoLEGr++NYQYfsDO67I8N0w/qAlT9Lsy50 rJTlh2SxjUflq4wSP9dfX34FSSOc6OkPeF4XJxLFkMVmtL2a+lTQMtsm+HcrYAxqF1bT SNQkJKWBgr59ZW9b8PhVeExdPw3F3RfrD5ZOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:51:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MxMeOmmZp2uEDztCAw8tCxOZ-3k Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fcc3fc6492b049dd1849d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:51:49 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fcc3fc6492b049dd1849d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 LOL!! Or maybe like your countryman, and my favorite saxophonist, Mats Gustafsson, who makes his sax sound like a barking dog... On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > LOL! Me, I like the tenor sax sounding like a Tube Of Tooth Paste. > > Greetings from Sweden -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba3fcc3fc6492b049dd1849d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOL!! Or maybe like your countryman, and my favorite saxophonist, Mats Gust= afsson, who makes his sax sound like a barking dog...

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Per Boysen &= lt;perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

LOL! Me, I like the tenor sax sounding like a Tube Of Tooth Paste.
Greetings from Sweden



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--90e6ba3fcc3fc6492b049dd1849d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 15:01:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143A3183490; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UkQ8MRyAn0JZO3M4gVN8rWsfSU3P8qGOgI4MQwHFseA=; b=wsDPwd7gdZ7dPIfeI1TZHNK4OvCI9BeWDVkLHRA33e0HrtLcS839vyf2C7GAODuK9D 7VkcQ9rkzWQtTm/9pOI3XcctUMe7jbG6gkd9TYeOK0Gw53nENmUdmB9ZX4a1YmkdCdDS KVCVUPeweEmgXwmbLCK0jUcm2xdpHLszTEmUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OCA0Fa8g4E8dNdjW+0sn8enVVYGMfoA9Ox6y13p/hLmBzKbytDyEzZk6m9+XFW4Srt vgXK5bSyL4Wyc6N+XMOm2D66S2C31HE3uEV4WA7QfXse/+AFM7lP7Nv9xRSgQMBwJOiH brYzeOBds/M01D27Ug2jDAYuRJgfk2n8l8W68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D7394FF.7060502@post.cybercity.dk> References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D7394FF.7060502@post.cybercity.dk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:01:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: O-IKO1XR50datHApIQ6EYaS6F4c Message-ID: Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306845f7f3b62c049dd1a663 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:01:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf306845f7f3b62c049dd1a663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think the lack of a writable LCD of patch names is my main gripe... and not enough patchs... I mean... 16??? Ive never missed midi cos I dont need to change patches between songs (Lexicons foolish idea of preset chains is very odd) apart from A to B and Bypass, and I have a dedicated couple of switches for that... I have modified my Vortex to synch both the tap tempo to the beat AND the morph switching to the beat, but not using midi of course, although for a bit I had an intermediate solution using a box from Kenton that turned midi into a clock pulse that would drive the tap tempo socket... So my Vortex is synched... Mark On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, van Sinn wrote: > Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> >> Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the Vortex >> btw? >> > > I'm only aware of the fairly limited emulations Lexicon placed in some > products, like in the MPX G2 (which I have). > > > > andy butler wrote: > >> >> Thing about the Vortex was that I don't think it's "special powers" >> were appreciated by the designers, especially not at the executive >> level. >> > > I think it's very much down to the Vortex being too weird for the general > audience, requiring too much understanding and experimentation, plus the > most stupid lack of MIDI interfacing (always beats me why..?). > > The supplied factory presets are mostly boring. >> > > ..which didn't exactly ease adoption to market, being so special.. > > The ability to Morph from one algorithm to a completely >> different one is what really sets the Vortex apart, >> and I reckon that was only intended to create a smooth >> transition from one sound to the next. >> > > I fully agree. Add to this best envelope follower I've ever seen, which > seemingly in a natural way interpretes the players picking frenzy. > Effects structure build on two separatly programmable delaylines. > Ability to work with extremely short delays making it possible to use it > sortof as a digital (FIR) filter. > > I've tried so many times not having it in my rig, mostly due to lack of > MIDI and saving space, but it's still there, hard to be without ;) > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf306845f7f3b62c049dd1a663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the lack of a writable LCD of patch names is my main gripe... and n= ot enough patchs... I mean... 16???

Ive never missed midi cos I dont= need to change patches between songs (Lexicons foolish idea of preset chai= ns is very odd) apart from A to B and Bypass, and I have a dedicated couple= of switches for that...
I have modified my Vortex to synch both the tap tempo to the beat AND the m= orph switching to the beat, but not using midi of course, although for a bi= t I had an intermediate solution using a box from Kenton that turned midi i= nto a clock pulse that would drive the tap tempo socket... So my Vortex is = synched...

Mark

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, = van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
Rainer Straschill wrote:

Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the Vortex b= tw?

I'm only aware of the fairly limited emulations Lexicon placed in some<= br> products, like in the MPX G2 (which I have).



andy butler wrote:

Thing about the Vortex was that I don't think it's "special po= wers"
were appreciated by the designers, especially not at the executive
level.

I think it's very much down to the Vortex being too weird for the gener= al audience, requiring too much understanding and experimentation, plus the= most stupid lack of MIDI interfacing (always beats me why..?).

The supplied factory presets are mostly boring.

..which didn't exactly ease adoption to market, being so special..

The ability to Morph from one algorithm to a completely
different one is what really sets the Vortex apart,
and I reckon that was only intended to create a smooth
transition from one sound to the next.

I fully agree. =A0Add to this best envelope follower I've ever seen, wh= ich
seemingly in a natural way interpretes the players picking frenzy.
Effects structure build on two separatly programmable delaylines.
Ability to work with extremely short delays making it possible to use it so= rtof as a digital (FIR) filter.

I've tried so many times not having it in my rig, mostly due to lack of= MIDI and saving space, but it's still there, hard to be without ;)


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van Sinn





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--0016e6d9a16ea8a33c049dd1b797-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 15:22:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A781183473; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l30+x8TcmiCs1W/ZOfDmOZvQOGGdPKhX2VNGZCSCoEw=; b=TRsU9HMVgIVtFeiuQsqVqx/weKfUOIb/xi1twhhETsdWAtbf8ZppFnIVDNsCD7jB2z cQmda6fHHK6I0O+I1oFUTqoUvYQK78qf3d+W4Pt5VlIOcx5hHVeyuEgepHfHyj13mwWS jrBmXHiIHFmv/J64ZIQXC3Y4pVVNUOMa91BjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LpQ1X2VHQnD/r6QorrvttOGC3oBIlZRh/d8ZsHeaHDZQqxxyPU4IbWKWiHMfKQjOBQ PuZt7Y0XlxWlXxJ1kOvhf/IC+A6bHZg2ztCYugRAgV3zmrxurA79dry2eMYCP8u1Pep0 oJtdIPKB9jJtKd4hwljnt1BHZJ7XFKQv3sHRk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:22:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:22:17 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:51 PM, mark francombe wrote: > LOL!! Or maybe like your countryman, and my favorite saxophonist, Mats > Gustafsson, who makes his sax sound like a barking dog... hah! That's an awesome guy! But i rather think his sax abusing sounds like manufacturing machines breaking down (when there is no one there to press the STOP button, so the heavy machines just keep breaking down for eternity... somehow self generating in the breaking down process. Mats is alien) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 15:34:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14939183480; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585482949/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.27.90/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.27.90 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsCAA84c01YbRta/2dsb2JhbAAMmGDMXIViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,271,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585482949" Message-ID: <4D73A987.4080400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:34:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <4D739784.3000104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:34:15 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Im running it after my Fireworx.. now I AM having > issues with distortion actually.. now is that due to to high output from > the fireworx into the Vortex possible, I always have the vortex input volume down around "9 o'clock" for line level signals. A small tweak makes quite a difference. Ideal is that the red Overload LED only comes on when you hit the guitar v.hard. (although for sometimes that led also picks up overload within the patch) > that the Vortex makes too high an > output into my mixer? Unlikely, the mixer *should* be able to take it. Probably it's just needs "millimeter precision calibration" on the input knob of the vortex. I've used the vortex as a DI (2005 gigs), and it *is* handy to have enough gain to just plug in a guitar...but it means the useful range for line level is awkwardly small. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 15:40:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B48F18348D; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:40:32 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15B48349-BB9C-4237-A537-F459D110E073@grubmah.com> References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D7394FF.7060502@post.cybercity.dk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:40:35 +0000 (UTC) The Vortex drifts out of my rig. It drifts back in. It's a bit noisy and takes care getting the levels right. It's UI is = awkward. It needs a footpedal to bypass it. But even on relatively tame effects, it has a warmth and character all = its own. The other unit that drifts out and back in is the Korg AM8000R which = similarly is able to create unusual sounds (though no morphing, just = lots of parameter manipulation potential) though I find it cleaner and = colder sounding than the Vortex. Right now, the Vortex is out because my primary guitar chain is all in = pedals now rather than a rack, but I'm thinking it could be fun with a = DSI Mopho... Mark P.S. I actually have two Korg AM8000R's and I seem routinely to only be = using one. I should probably think about selling the other to a good = home. Hint, hint. The Vortex will not be up for sale (though I've got a = Reflex if anyone wants it). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 15:53:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF363183495; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Further OT: Tone Suckage (was Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch) From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:53:24 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <69AC1333-F33A-42FD-9D73-4C7C8D4D4D38@grubmah.com> References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <-6592828410188813703@unknownmsgid> <4D737937.2090908@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Even getting the resistance right in a volume pedal can matter. I was = surprised to find that my Lovepedal Eternity Fuse overdrive really, = really does not like being right in front of my 25k Ernie Ball volume = pedal (which I went with over the 250k because it is sitting later in = the signal chain). I've had to make sure that something that isn't true = bypass is sitting between the two. Mark On Mar 6, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > 'sucking tone' is a term that I've only heard from guitarists so far, = and which they use to describe an (unwanted) effect on the guitar sound = when going through some box (which can be an effect, or an amp, or a = cable etc.). One aspect of tone suckage is less high frequency content, = another one might be loss of dynamic range, often not as this effect per = se but low dynamics masked in noise perceived as a loss of dynamic = range, some change in the way your guitar signal chain responds to your = playing, or tube voodoo. >=20 > The most famous kind of tone sucking is plugging your guitar into a = low impedance input (e.g. mixer or soundcard) in combination with a = guitar with passive electronics, possibly even a vintage one. This will = inevitably lead to a high-frequency rolloff. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 16:10:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 362AE183474; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0dhfqtnfxqM52okKIhvT1EnPOVQTysBfCevWswen2Ds=; b=LNmBijv69qAFeR55N3Wz/1/4jh+/7VrlxPies+oZv/tTLHJJzZWTgay9njx9Z799W+ e8nPXKI/zmES3SDMujFO7f7gelTLXpS4vM9jFXnmyEllucsZ0bNcbPLcMF1cb41pWmjD uL/XHmqyBUrjHyzK2mK8wzultF8QMQagvX6hA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=InshrN2vtmZXWf0dIoFLIZIfnH7/+Ei8Z2osO6VTcTJckwwtqvCiJa4bM/uoyxbH8e oWGQPRufPv7fRN02lxlBTqPVAd/AoEFXqv0G2DPNHs7P+feS+S7xEbK9hp6roWDegLdw RdSn3NenqygSeG3W1ASehmCv/5xbBwAOj192c= Message-ID: <4D73B1E5.4010009@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:10:13 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D739A6E.7090107@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D739A6E.7090107@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <04swrD.A.g6G.jH7cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:10:11 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > Ok, back to topic...has anyone ever done a software version of the > Vortex btw? > I could give you a quote for one :-) That one still valid? http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200509/msg00155.html ;). Did you also price it btw, and look at the number of prospective buyers? Seriously, the fact that a target might be coming from hw units which are not exactly fetching huge prices (seems to be a little above 100 whatever - i.e. cheaper in the U.S.), and that well-respected plugins such as PSP N20 go for $150 might make this a tricky endeavour to get a business case... But perhaps one day a crazy programming guy will do it and throw it out to the community - hey, what about you, Mark? ;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 16:20:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E27183463; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5E2x7M4BN8ifZ7mKLpl2apiSdSD7x3Zc9cw7NnVU0uY= c=1 sm=1 a=k9TyQOYLBBAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=t-IPkPogAAAA:8 a=myP459r3AAAA:8 a=hiGGu2Y6AAAA:8 a=yFuDAPCIAAAA:8 a=TOMNzEtIr97P-kL3HGIA:9 a=YFfej_a6UwTbpUMOup2LRpCNW6oA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <4307FB20-88E2-4CAF-91AB-7B7B409D23EF@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:20:33 -0800 References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <2HCngB.A._KH.cR7cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Like! On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > I'm not in the habit of doing this, but this album was one of my first > serious attempts at using the Vortex...it's ONLY a pair of Vortexes > and my first electric guitar, a Fender Squire and an Ebow...I used a > pair of Morley A/B switches to route the signal around and recorded > straight to hard drive. > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-ambient-guitar-vol-i/id152016640 > > ...just to continue with what Andy had pointed out about using the > Vortex. > > Enjoy! > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 16:28:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62F4D183466; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3ZQUuXr0muK2lrv+T+Ywazwj/Wlca7vEp3/q17V58so=; b=vkXzQ0fiTN9rWmlOOvYXJDH5fspwWDxpseBqkbPVwDLQOYzdCJZQD+Qe1wF6rhZAhX yJI7/ZKL9iJYQRU9/06tBBT0YQG1vt3tzhHSnaeRUn789j5zqOS7h1ANr6LCJ0hqkzoT pTAQgu/1fi2+yjKcU2oZNTGlg5ZtWurg+LTVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=sCYeJXeVtK5PZRnUCRsO07jt/JwjbogoKjLkSdDeERjscl/QL+8/0kNJ6BZq/vhgli Hcx6DhE8FxkB7f9DNY/mpcqy97iYolm+YbgZe2eRMMI2IJFc7rlglrlwhnAZbnS0Zj5m Q2v2oOg40ghGws0QUBYkAynRtJb3V34c29gH4= References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D739A6E.7090107@tiscali.co.uk> <4D73B1E5.4010009@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D73B1E5.4010009@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:27:17 +0100 Message-ID: <-3252140955409697384@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Innovative Gear That Got Discontinued was Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:28:09 +0000 (UTC) If i could program i would be rich and wouldnt be wasting my time talking to nerds on the internet, but drinking cocktails on my boat... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:10, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > But perhaps one day a crazy programming guy will do it and throw it out to the community - hey, what about you, Mark? ;) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 17:24:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05311183462; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Lower octave Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:24:13 +0100 Message-ID: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvcI0/a42PLvifVTe2dS6Yp6b6W4w== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:24:23 +0000 (UTC) I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to do) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 17:27:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A0E183466; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780888.2588.bm@omp1034.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=nde1f0ReQULZLP5IkGJUY6DtjFQyE7yJYoNuFiJZKTkdg4Aq9VDgBkT9qvQxeSgHL0kKj5Fg8dAWPglVVGhyXkSI3gtejuAwZruWpYjXfIhXHBzGj7rDOyhdH1q5iQZ/2s0SphEl10glgqXYbd3J7qg3B+wvYTGXJymiQTVkQ20= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1299432426; bh=wl03MJxXKNNDgkloz5J40lrL3MMGuPQntKsD0K/eeKw=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=MtFdTeDbY84YIWv79YB00+zoM3iJfiGgFRAixlxSTa7SOgq994zn+MzRlhVe0O9klbCjo7N3ZAWnwYif/9tQsEirQc9T0gYw4KpMiX10XH5XNMOVTi/1PP2n918hG4bPIGXKqGzFH9ddKLIT/TZUm1CnJMJlflS7mY2zb0mdq6w= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: pdfFqN0VM1mea7r3K732pR0S2g20HgpHzGdjHbh0Lpl8RwH nX3mIy61ORK0JnbdXYQZLSYE3yOhETMffUA7bqPjrHDxkMIbfgWDhuzzQpRK VpA9VV_FXUxzMpssLiCeehqfbwcsuAm5uTFF1NYcwRj9e8z0MWXbMGtBjxFh br.CqtwQNPo13yWXv.bswvem_jvkGuRK9BmBp.sv1Gmux_ZWS5zEjTmZi0lc fiObMzu_CE3BttxhLk1xEQE._r5nLGsDa386DCugQ8kg3QoaZSg7.lez3BLU 8fHAGZFFt X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--997325646 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Lower octave Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:27:01 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--997325646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote: > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw > that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his > flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the > lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you > will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because > more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure > what to > do) > > -Michael > > --Apple-Mail-1--997325646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 6 Mar 2011, = at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote:

I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in = Antwerp, and saw that he
used a Boss = OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. = I
want something that reliably turns guitar notes = (especially the lower notes)
into a bass - = a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations?  (Andy, you will
probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using = it because more often
than not, the Chopitch = sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to
do)

-Michael


=

= --Apple-Mail-1--997325646-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 17:43:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC74B183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_O65x3xN9OGUtwVCZbHUbjA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-06_04:2011-03-04,2011-03-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103060067 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: How do I make a gated reverb? Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:43:15 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <7102A9C6-9BD6-417B-AF05-B11683C9A168@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:43:34 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_O65x3xN9OGUtwVCZbHUbjA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I just wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY is? Its an overused drum sound from the 80s :) Used subtly, its a way to get instruments to punch through the mix while retaining the sense of space around the instrument. I don't know the TC device that you are using. But a simple gated reverb is where the reverb tail is cut off by a noise gate--a threshold control determines at what level the gate begins to snap shut and a hold time control determines the lag before the gate closes. Some later day digital gated verb presets feature auto-tempo sync for the hold time feature. Useful. But in the absence of this, there is always the calculator. Qtr note @ 120 bpm = 500ms. does this get at what you are asking? everything you never needed to know about gated reverb here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gated_reverb Daniel Some noise gates allow a time factor that snaps the gate shut after so many miliseconds have passed. On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:58 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I thought about something like that Per, but wont that just make a reverb that fades out as the guitar signal fades.. (interesting idea, worth a try) > > I think I need something that triggers when I play a sounds (opens? like a VCA???) then after a while closes suddenly. So I was thinking... > > Env Follower to trigger a VCA, with a short release time. that release time is set to adjust the delay time of a reverb. So loud signal Equals long verb, and release time equals short verb... BUT.. how do I get that *timed* part of a gated reverb, from the moment you hit, to the moment it cuts... > > This is just chat really Ill try it later (Rack still in car...) I just wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY is? > > M > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Try assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay > time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other > paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing is > bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best! > > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Boundary_(ID_O65x3xN9OGUtwVCZbHUbjA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable  I just wondered if anyone know = what a gated reverb REALLY = is?


Its an overused drum = sound from the 80s  :)
Used subtly, its a way to get = instruments to punch through the mix while retaining the sense of space = around the instrument. 

I don't know the = TC device that you are using.   But a simple gated reverb is where = the reverb tail is cut off by a noise gate--a threshold control = determines at what level the gate begins to snap shut and a hold time = control determines the lag before the gate closes.  
Some = later day digital gated verb presets feature auto-tempo sync for the = hold time feature.  Useful.  But in the absence of this, there = is always the calculator. 

Qtr note @ 120 = bpm =3D 500ms.

does this get at what you are = asking?

everything you never needed to know = about gated reverb here:


Daniel =  


Some noise gates allow a = time factor that snaps the gate shut after so many miliseconds have = passed. 
  
On Mar 5, 2011, = at 2:58 AM, mark francombe wrote:

I thought = about something like that Per, but wont that just make a reverb that = fades out as the guitar signal fades.. (interesting idea, worth a = try)

I think I need something that triggers when I play a sounds = (opens? like a VCA???) then after a while closes suddenly. So I was = thinking...

Env Follower to trigger a VCA, with a short release time. that = release time is set to adjust the delay time of a reverb. So loud signal = Equals long verb, and release time equals short verb... BUT.. how do I = get that *timed* part of a gated reverb, from the moment you hit, to the = moment it cuts...

This is just chat really Ill try it later (Rack still in car...) I = just wondered if anyone know what a gated reverb REALLY = is?

M

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at = 11:33 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:
Try = assign *input level* (as detected by the env follower) to *decay
time* of a reverb placed later on in the effect chain. Or some other
paramater... I haven't had a FireworX for years so my fireworkzing = is
bit rusty. Heck, just try out what routing sounds best!





--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

= --Boundary_(ID_O65x3xN9OGUtwVCZbHUbjA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 17:44:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B33183463; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dK5qtSQpY6tdL2ZJEBYKTg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-06_04:2011-03-04,2011-03-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103060067 Subject: Re: Calton cases From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:44:48 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-id: <40197D19-936F-4563-B571-32EBCD3CD467@mac.com> References: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:44:52 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_dK5qtSQpY6tdL2ZJEBYKTg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ditto love my calton cases. d On Mar 5, 2011, at 11:01 AM, David Gans wrote: > > I don't want an Anvil style case. The Caltons have been great for me, and it just breaks my heart that the company has turned bad. > > I will look into Ameritage when I've got some money to spend. Thanks. > > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, richard sales wrote: > >> Hayley got a new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case. Heavy duty. She's flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up. Don't know what they cost, but can't be any more than Calton. >> >> Of course, there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style case. They're great. I've had one for 32 years that's been through it all. Heavy as lead, though. >> > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > --Boundary_(ID_dK5qtSQpY6tdL2ZJEBYKTg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I don't = want an Anvil style case.  The Caltons have been great for me, and = it just breaks my heart that the company has turned = bad.

I will look into Ameritage when I've got = some money to spend. Thanks.


On = Mar 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, richard sales wrote:

Hayley got a = new PRS acoustic with an Ameritage case.  Heavy duty.  She's = flown it quite a bit and it seems to be holding up.  Don't know = what they cost, but can't be any more than = Calton.

Of course, = there are plenty places that will make you an Anvil style case. =  They're great.  I've had one for 32 years that's been through = it all.  Heavy as lead, though. 


david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730





= --Boundary_(ID_dK5qtSQpY6tdL2ZJEBYKTg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:03:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4880A183479; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:03:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 969631.83038.bm@omp1045.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299434621; bh=j9xlv80m7Pae0fX0KmundfDdWJ4jdvFUP0lC3tK4FRs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gKO1YIWKXPWpA+R8v73pCwv78gs7JSGAQ/Hfdk39fotS128EJaSPoI2uffHsUiJ/pCZ7BWYEUuXpTun3gUq01Wod838QxjATFsOjweSiZjBZjxgapixjrGvXu+OQCM0fuNFiPctyWjcOC6L8LNHlJZanTFEfK/tfKp0O4NrX+f0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hrAT6RZDfcZrnSP4/NVHQ3O/dgUJDqAy+7NnYKmoAZNFdmTeCeqU0JaNRtBeNRPRsqg9tAB53XkyCBpSBrbph9GBTyRNutN2ncf3wRwgs06g6vAYUq/yt7/WrO5NTBqI6S6MZxqQYW+Gn2jRA3FyVRpgAtkNikbu/Ql+nWNfpUY=; Message-ID: <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GHMLqOsVM1l5opjkP4_FJlv5fEr.uCOKV5YH3C7sqjgaEYR LQDHKoZgZNiXEPGRBbn9ByyTNNh9L4gbuwGNBMt0j5lMp105C9X4Jd37iwTt 3j8jimcoWr8o1R.d_bs0Nab8X8vQJ.18DnIhONr.9lN1mNaHQitZK.HszMpn TQUhsbS0P.4CcRe9cBtGdhhydVijJ3loeaUTmQ2Imotu29CN0k6Y0ZvDzo4q eXnh4KIIzMF_FPJpqNhP14acU2Kk_bxRs9.NfPnnAo1MfnZIPywkthCG1zYb pSrzq5xe3iDDTtJiKfU_QR_oHwBAt5AOA5c5hesV5Fc6SDNeOxDYLc5UBBEu yBjn1lBqQwG48KIwwaaeQxbrEJWVKBrck X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:03:41 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-152887775-1299434621=:39901" Resent-Message-ID: <0__NnC.A.qXB._x8cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:03:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-152887775-1299434621=:39901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Charles, I am interested in experimenting in DSP environment, can you give some suggestions for hardware/software? I am looking at this MPLAB starter kit, do you think that is a good choice? http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en534506 Thanks, Eric ________________________________ From: Charles Zwicky To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the "granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks in some DSP programming environment and you'll start to get a feel for how these things sound. Plus it's a lot of fun...! --0-152887775-1299434621=:39901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer


Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the
"granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb
filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks
in some DSP  programming environment and you'll start to get a feel
for how these things sound.  Plus it's a lot of fun...!


--0-152887775-1299434621=:39901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:10:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C68183476; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zy05mQ4NDd57WiG58X0r9wS6aA6B9CWfYYY275T1UEA=; b=WTmZVtxFGmT6brWIm6OMo9yHw8/FtR73toX/NwIKc78timg65coRRef3eK4tB4kDql hgTzHOC1lE706rOwPuxh9NSKN5W33PTJW9drnCmK7QWQAkngY2v0qkVRIzeVqRy09a6c eoXPXHJsKOv1JzxqrU0aiqk/cpAlNMuJeLj5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JvemFmK0mP2xi5o1J3aLSBV7vfY05PGUbYD3kz8SNy2rXZoG6iLbXLx8VljCFWA3QV mQF8h2tK6trXniiSooxb6Kr8393FfgMOAVyuOeszNZvn6ch0wJNS/i+PI3TbC1dgghnn rIwWdukIO4Ov77b7uTcEKw72X2X9IxitH376Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D73A987.4080400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <42.A0.09940.29BE27D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <4D739784.3000104@tiscali.co.uk> <4D73A987.4080400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:10:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Vortex Patch From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Ahhhh, Andy...thanks again for the technical explanation...I find myself often in the "Francombe Territory" of tweaking dials (tho' I have bought my last two guitars on the basis of their native tone, i.e., what do they sound like unamplified). As soon as you said you keep your VTX input around 9:00, I thought, "Ah, that's what I've been doing once I got it working!" And, indeed, just a little tweak is all these puppies ever seem to need. These are NOT tools for making sweeping changes at the input level! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 8:34 AM, andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: >> >> Im running it after my Fireworx.. now I AM having issues with distortion >> actually.. now is that due to to high output from the fireworx into the >> Vortex > > possible, > I always have the vortex input volume down around "9 o'clock" > for line level signals. > A small tweak makes quite a difference. > > Ideal is that the red Overload LED only comes on when you hit > the guitar v.hard. > (although for sometimes that led also picks up overload within > =A0the patch) > > >> that the Vortex makes too high an output into my mixer? > > Unlikely, the mixer *should* be able to > take it. > > Probably it's just needs "millimeter precision calibration" > on the input knob of the vortex. > > I've used the vortex as a DI (2005 gigs), and it *is* handy to have enoug= h > gain to just plug in a guitar...but it means > the useful range for line level is awkwardly small. > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:31:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D62E183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IuD3DcevCVmaZFR9J+0ch8qWCKJkPeA0GjpNkFzW+2UaCHSUBRjPS78FGnLKUwcp; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:29:23 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-912686229==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7964e7349795039c5cbfecff4e05d2b4eb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) --============_-912686229==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Eric, Depending on whether you're on Mac or PC there are some good software only choices, and if you're interested in HW / stompbox development, check out Spin Semiconductor's development system: http://www.spinsemi.com/products.html >Hi Charles, > >I am interested in experimenting in DSP environment, can you give >some suggestions for hardware/software? I am looking at this MPLAB >starter kit, do you think that is a good choice? > >http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en534506 > >Thanks, >Eric > > > >From: Charles Zwicky >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM >Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer > > >Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the >"granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb >filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks >in some DSP programming environment and you'll start to get a feel >for how these things sound. Plus it's a lot of fun...! -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-912686229==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer
Hi Eric,
 Depending on whether you're on Mac or PC there are some good  software only choices, and if you're interested in HW / stompbox development, check out Spin Semiconductor's development system:

http://www.spinsemi.com/products.html


Hi Charles,

I am interested in experimenting in DSP environment, can you give some suggestions for hardware/software? I am looking at this MPLAB starter kit, do you think that is a good choice?
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en534506

Thanks,
Eric

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer


Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the
"granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb
filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks
in some DSP  programming environment and you'll start to get a feel
for how these things sound.  Plus it's a lot of fun...!


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-912686229==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:51:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B406183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8cBu0DRd3B50C5e8fXegay7p9J9Eh5QqS30Lijx+chs=; b=o1r24pIBswuh3JVlM0cLBo0rAqruXLh+MDmwgs3zG0UfCCjXpbX02teC6T1JcQR3ED 51e6AheQ5pvf9CLG6o5DVqokBc88uKmb9WDPZzyNaPDYMAF0yyIbWTxd+bf0OQskwvPM 2P5SQ+ElB2HAvsW9O+g3djmROj+XXZfgYydVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ShnxR/BUz+5LCvb77k5JXh8q4uLY3OghCIPZLh2bO6UDUCQlyXjBY6nBrpFoSMBQrm D30X8ZuPJlwDzB/VzEYEjHVE3o3wtFucl0eUiyJJguQqaURHOS52oM7JmsmdjKzANbIV C1tc/U9gxaJJHrV2E/M1EXtVE1mEYMLrshDdc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:51:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lower octave From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. The octavider of Amplitube 3 is ok. If you keep just a little of the guitar's original pitch in the sound to mask out the tiny latency of the bass octave. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:52:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEBD318345F; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tvSH4R6d5UxpABYObXUle45LhjFei8Q0qMESxohtAVQ=; b=as9IFXFUFnlnUzkiEYyLRDCEjPNnMKEkUlx98CKEpAPF5grOWBqGXFbRHaCIz6MZ+R amizu1ghWRvzcUd4m6+Z32tO8UrfvKG9+wa2RWsdq/8kYyud5JZW2r1QqzKgQw9vgnQ+ YAljmnZSv15KP4UQnM3nPK6V6SUpGKXemOFqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m68BEQuc0Z/qeB/Kgm8jcBc6tr80eo+RrU+VzrrsIqdrODw8HTAQ9rBJNMmsQCG3+p qJiaNcSCiSPUVLYCrmQgwzpc11ozxhqBiv8EQrXijtqW0jpF3lhRARoihoASDHr8IfUz 2kUMjImH7WiS6R7vFz2cjalpTh+jiSXTgS7do= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:52:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lower octave From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) >> into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. I have also used MXR Blue Box which was ok in the hardware world. And POG of course, if you have more money... Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:52:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DD54183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 752404.20433.bm@omp1047.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299437522; bh=NxHoC8JIrqbNNUY0vIdbc2UJ0LMDOLi2OZ5GNB1u3cg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AhmrkxROdsiXWnzgnoJKQAUU4ICQhHQ6iMnqkcNp41YThV26ptiOn1xk96QpXV37nhjbk1X4TmjJ9gT8T3DhvaFLLywxctbhww48HVzeytruoHLpK1chpYREoaUsLI9lCO5WlmT0e7OBaKUjrj4Kmc2vye5axYEirep6Eps/5MQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vX+m/RG4DAed35EQNc4+OLT9XQwuN52zth6jPfS7BQL+ci5zlBrwFqr/j58cFy9cuAlBdj8bXIT3o0d9tu6sJa0IjKhmVp5i1WpiHw9qGGkN21RJyfNgL25cJsueuTcSj1NqM2wqBOjJNksdMAk5ZQ+/oopbrQCXQhtQvJVTyBU=; Message-ID: <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1CwqDAQVM1nQ1Ev6PJw5lGbOZ2y9RnaECpwvqrvElOpGE8q aW7T20JkOkIUqfhPdSnMZFKEL9gGXtJYOC2MvHHXN3LzkiD4yE.tkbKC7Rlw s1U2ESRMwrLxGuXMIiWr2QrQwROAzPp1ukJ8C7oohWWQSxaFHzhCaHgR.kaA FouNojidkNY98WCjhQi7n7z2d5hDfbawqMKhU70GUVYcavriZN7ReR3m435D Gq4ckq9pNXKfMtDw_smwyfbUUe5BkGIbWG84am14sPWbqthDePQAaOWfnJA- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-882061478-1299437522=:66640" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-882061478-1299437522=:66640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Charles, Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool. I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can you give a suggestion? Thanks, Eric ________________________________ From: Charles Zwicky To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 1:29:23 PM Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Hi Eric, Depending on whether you're on Mac or PC there are some good software only choices, and if you're interested in HW / stompbox development, check out Spin Semiconductor's development system: http://www.spinsemi.com/products.html Hi Charles, > >I am interested in experimenting in DSP environment, can you give some >suggestions for hardware/software? I am looking at this MPLAB starter kit, do >you think that is a good choice? > http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en534506 > >Thanks, >Eric > > ________________________________ From: Charles Zwicky >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM >Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer > > >Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the >"granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb >filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks >in some DSP programming environment and you'll start to get a feel >for how these things sound. Plus it's a lot of fun...! -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --0-882061478-1299437522=:66640 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Charles,

Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool.

I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can you give a suggestion?

Thanks,
Eric

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 1:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer

Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer
Hi Eric,
 Depending on whether you're on Mac or PC there are some good  software only choices, and if you're interested in HW / stompbox development, check out Spin Semiconductor's development system:



Hi Charles,

I am interested in experimenting in DSP environment, can you give some suggestions for hardware/software? I am looking at this MPLAB starter kit, do you think that is a good choice?
http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en534506

Thanks,
Eric

From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 3:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer


Why does everything people don't understand get thrown in the
"granular" bin? Allpass filters have plenty of resonances and comb
filtering effects, just play around with some basic building blocks
in some DSP  programming environment and you'll start to get a feel
for how these things sound.  Plus it's a lot of fun...!


--

--0-882061478-1299437522=:66640-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 18:58:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AD0E183487; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Calton cases Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--991811633 From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <75814316-41A4-4751-9526-F8E4BAD83320@glasswing.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:58:55 -0800 Cc: David Gans Message-Id: References: <405EBA10-631F-4173-8B19-73BE0A3FB6C0@glasswing.com> <85846083-42D4-498B-9855-D1422F066375@trufun.com> <75814316-41A4-4751-9526-F8E4BAD83320@glasswing.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:58:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--991811633 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks. The case I need has to be custom built (its for a Turner Model = 1), so it won't be in any shop's stock. But maybe a retailer can help me = get Calton's attention. On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:49 PM, richard sales wrote: > David, >=20 > well, I wouldn't let Calton get away with 900 Georges either. =20 >=20 > It looks like Elderly Instruments has them in stock. I suspect = they're way behind and only servicing their big vendors.=20 >=20 > www.elderly.com >=20 > You might call Elderly and ask around. Maybe they can find a solution = for you. They have a good rep. >=20 David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --Apple-Mail-5--991811633 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

It = looks like Elderly Instruments has them in stock.  I suspect = they're way behind and only servicing their big = vendors. 


<= div>You might call Elderly and ask around.  Maybe they can find a = solution for you.  They have a good rep.

david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth = and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA = 94610-2730




= --Apple-Mail-5--991811633-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 19:51:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4385A183459; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:50:55 -0500 To: thread-topic: Lower octave thread-index: AcvcN9zcUfDv1y+3SSugn2jlQpV3TQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2011 19:51:20.0568 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD61D780:01CBDC37] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:51:23 +0000 (UTC) I always planned to get the Pog, but when I tried it at NAMM it didnt seem t= o work that well and the guy demoing it was a bit of a dick. But the guy in T= he Duhks uses one on guitar, with seperate pickups on the bass strings and t= hat is the bass sound for the band and it sounds great so must be possible. I= tried it at NAMM on my plugged in mandocello, but it didnt track the string= pair too well. Ya'll are provably talkibg plugins anyway, but thats my $.02= Andy o On Mar 6, 2011, at 12:24 PM, "Michael Peters" wrote: > octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 20:08:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2549C183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/9UBQgEjuTuPnXGY1+E8X6S3wSTk2rRYx9K5UPjns54=; b=mBfMHUlisDm+Ij5X+sdcRizcfkNIBGCkNjGjOALef2PGXVuaQWIugSsUZ9+CFAZqW5 xVDhV2jvXiXdFZDHffTYbLnzfNQSNitOEqnIDV0hQad+jIs/GPX1bFQR8NyktgesyyJD KccPzGQUzyPwMFEB7844JWYXWKwfIE4vjiuDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rs+BQZZ8aUPaecnxjxPmTZh/IP2cBvxjQr6kVV5I8QAkzK9db1hvug/klLUQjEDjea qWPMxnoOkgaXJsgnuDYlt3Y0bGbLYirAjSJvcdHHtpnoJqE042qPamujVJ6Qe72sUDc7 tiCycbrM8H8PTsj3dsprgM/Z81LoFAf1AvaKw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:08:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e350924cd8049dd5f1a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:08:34 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e350924cd8049dd5f1a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beats me too! There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI doesnt remind me of any software I know... But I know, of all people, you have the experience, if you dont know what it is, then it's gotta be mystery software!!!! -Petri- 2011/3/5 Per Boysen > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > I thought this was worth of sharing > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmguHdth7Y > > Thanks Petri, I enjoy that music a lot! But what the heck is "Glitch > Sequencer"? An internet search only gives Roger O'Donnell Facebook > page. But that's cool because over there he recently uploaded a video > to show off "how Glitch Sequencer works". > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Roger-ODonnell/9158211963 > Pretty interesting although he never actually says what Glitch > Sequencer is! I would guess it is a Max For Live mockup? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e350924cd8049dd5f1a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beats me too!

There's some software running on the macbook besid= e him, the GUI doesnt remind me of any software I know...

But I know= , of all people, you have the experience, if you dont know what it is, then= it's gotta be mystery software!!!!

-Petri-

2011/3/5 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= >
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.= com> wrote:
> I thought this was worth of sharing
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIBmguHdth7Y

Thanks Petri, I enjoy that music a lot! But what the heck is "Gl= itch
Sequencer"? An internet search only gives Roger O'Donnell Facebook=
page. But that's cool because over there he recently uploaded a video to show off "how Glitch Sequencer works".
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Roger-ODonnell/9158211963
Pretty interesting although he never actually says what Glitch
Sequencer is! I would guess it is a Max For Live mockup?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--00151773e350924cd8049dd5f1a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 20:12:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E0A9183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KNAdnzC+4aJKzUhETHkb69iDg2exdJT7ZUwiS+phPcc=; b=XvPMoqBD3nIPTd4wPyI1VflVL8SlLXyUOSCFxVI18ZFSq7QYARA5SkEZQod86wzvzH N3Tg4c0kZDxyAXCIjB7+6bgmYO13IkZUxuNRUtp01KV2WqpV8XqR2sSLyg8HydbZV2Pm 0uJgpvD3I5ME+KodVcRUp0Qg4OjsOXSXCAYt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dSuQbwdIbgfu6GQe0Ky6XRIJqqwWEhFk8u3OFZ97sR3+XovVxMBeLSOYyID2qYHJcM QVGuSrUImOGa20CP4ifCq6vLstVvzkcJMSlTn/shXwnqpWUMQtMDUtEapMZgTi5HwIsg H4h8duaGACEBhQCMiJNXfB3DkPN/QPJ6NM/O8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:12:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI doesnt > remind me of any software I know... *That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer". > But I know, of all people, you have the experience, if you dont know what it > is, then it's gotta be mystery software!!!! I already took my guess in the previous post: "a M4L patch". Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 20:16:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC8C183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g+gOMqVNweM/vDvcjVhtH1nerx6Tf0H8XCipihRV5CY=; b=dKkvaXPZO9k8pq5m4XKGREhFr+EZs9LhGxzDOL2L+VS4fH69juD5hWsIyUmMWD2G8N uSFNLUe8QaMwGIud2M6WqE/zNe5EE5K5yKedbhuZgemv54KIiNXN4FKtYc3ECqtfH1XR x2b+4CBsKjSfsaLbhsmek6gsKNfp90x/wrx94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LoBu0ufystOyUm5vRo4Qz6QCn2UtgnejzfE2Xe1GaG9KWubWcMlAhCM36OvJBNw+gd zWxegMXXSrPkjekTBH/l9/FzV5vHAyMwWCNrMj+6mZ+RcGiUXkq2bUQDhlzDsNyEYfDh ultcbHR9dgcuzairaRDdIc9C8Jw4YtBb5V834= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:16:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e35071497d049dd60d0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:16:21 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e35071497d049dd60d0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I'll ask him straight on Facebook, he's on the friend list of mine. Iike hundreds of others, but still :-) 2011/3/6 Per Boysen > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI doesnt > > remind me of any software I know... > > *That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer". > > > But I know, of all people, you have the experience, if you dont know what > it > > is, then it's gotta be mystery software!!!! > > I already took my guess in the previous post: "a M4L patch". > > Per > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e35071497d049dd60d0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe I'll ask him straight on Facebook, he's on the friend list of= mine.
Iike hundreds of others, but still

:-)

2011/3/6 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen
<kollegavalmentaja@gmail.= com> wrote:
> There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI d= oesnt
> remind me of any software I know...

*That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer".

> But I know, of all people, you have the experience, if you dont know w= hat it
> is, then it's gotta be mystery software!!!!

I already took my guess in the previous post: "a M4L patch"= .

Per




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www= .petrilahtinen.com

--00151773e35071497d049dd60d0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 20:21:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62B57183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9kwVvtDIEjP72jJt/dt11g8SbHGhIxrdoEEWC3ihcus=; b=FiVvJDAcd+X1T5KJC9jnz4UQwUn/EXojSh3wRgXANWmo1OjN2tOBG1E/KEg5oc7Ch5 +2G9LQXDIpsF3TKA19Hr/Nuy0vCsM7vwA2zuVjTI4J3NwS6tCRSags3QLpFWBLgiLMZK VTgiLTGWbTFKX/wwb+JwmShFbqG0O4IH9V9zg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UV7wWiKWvPhPt0MgtKTHe4texH4NBbiDtpxRUe01OCtKwW5Ojs7cf6vkhZfyWNKbAr lPPddpSnGACBS9yvcm3kXRqt4DGFocadWKRMpMcKnMQXV33vhHixLxJiek1JOC7lCPVw p7MqBHaA7sdjeEh1rU3vKZSvA1NoIieMvNyZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:21:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:21:09 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, E Gross wrote: > Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool. > > I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can you > give a suggestion? Many so called tape delay simulator plugins can do that. Just assign a kick switch or expression pedal to its feedback parameter and trim the values to make the freeze work. After trying many I have settled with the software plugin for this is EchoBoy from SoundToys. There is also the reverb plugin Eos that has an "Infinite" button that you can assign to your foot pedal. But I can't recommend Eos because it gives an audible click noise if going into or out of freeze mode as audio passes through the plugin. Another reason I like EchoBoy better is that it doesn't really freeze audio in the technical sense, it simple keeps a loop at 99 percent feedback and from this comes that the fidelity slowly degrades during "freeze time" and I like that effect a lot. Oh, and of course you have to set up a signal routing to pass by the EchoBoy during its "freeze time". Best wishes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 21:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53161183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D73FB3B.6090504@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:23:07 -0500 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 03.08.11 > The PiNG presents luminations + URM + KALTE + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020207.4D73FB42.001A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: <3o0UUB.A.u6F.Ct_cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:23:14 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 03.08.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents FiT THE FiRST featuring luminations (DVD screening) + URM + KALTE + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. March 8th . Doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:00 . $6 . 8:00 . luminations . The premiere screening of "luminations" by General Chaos Visuals and URM to celebrate the release of their hour long DVD of projected light and ambient electronic music. This unique film features the multi-layered projected translucent light paintings of Stephen Lindsey (General Chaos Visuals) which were created to accompany a musical soundtrack of soundscapes and electronic music created by Jamie Todd (URM.) For over ten years, Stephen and Jamie have collaborated and experimented with these techniques of merging light projections with live music. This film represents the realization of their lengthy efforts to create something new and unique in the realm of audio and visual synergy. The techniques used for creating the imagery in this film primarily include the use of hand-painted transparent images, which are kinetically rotated and overlaid with multiple projectors. The images are manipulated using optical analog techniques such as prisms, crystals and fingers. The overall technique has been in development in live gigs for over ten years now, and although based on some elements of 60’s light shows, the General Chaos Visuals live experience is a new beast entirely of its own. The audio soundtrack, "Shadows of Light", was created by URM's Jamie Todd (also of dreamSTATE, NOiNO and SADU) who takes us on a sonic trip made up of six pieces which explore alien mutant psycho jazz, dark/light ambience, spacey soundscapes along with some sequencer driven Berlin School pulse. All of the music was created in real time on a single laptop utilizing a virtual wall of modular and semi-modular soft synthesizers run through a matrix of soft efx. General Chaos Visuals: http://webhome.idirect.com/%7Eslindsey URM: http://www.urm.ca . 9:00 . URM . To complement the free download release of his "stratification" LP on the ping things net label, Jamie Todd unleashes a sonic suite of sequences and soundscapes to perform the LP LiVE in its entirety as a continuous audio journey. With lots of new sound manipulating toys in the URM arsenal, "stratification" is a tasty mix of sequencer driven Berlin School electronics combined with haunting ambient soundscapes and seasoned with that wee bit of weirdness that Jamie has always been so fond of applying to the mix. As this is a special night, celebrating a couple of URM releases, Scott M2 of dreamSTATE (who is itching to play live with his new iPad) will join Jamie for the final 1/3 of the URM set. Download for free URM's "stratification" from the ping things net label: http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2010/11/download-stratification-by-urm.html . 10:30 . KALTE come out of hibernation to play the PiNG for their 1st show of 2011 celebrating the launch of their new album "Fissures" to be released by Petcord on Mar. 15th. http://www.petcord.com Deane and Rik of Kalte will be performing a set drawn from the mysteries of the Hadopelagic Zone, cold music heard in inhospitable spaces, ominous and dark tones inspired by massive pressures and arctic depths. For more information visit www.kaltemusic.com . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . The unique evolving light paintings of General Chaos Visuals will provide us with mesmerizing eye candy projected onto a live canvas of performers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: TUESDAY APRiL 12 2011 - Cymbl and Lorde Awesome + FSK1138 + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NEW ADVENTURES IN SOUND ART CELEBRATES 10 YEARS! BIRTHDAY SOUND BASH FUNDRAISER NAISA Sound Bash Installation March 1 - 31, 2011 Sound Bash Performances every Saturday on March @ 8pm at the NAISA Space, 601 Christie St #252, Artscape Wychwood Barns A Sound Installation that you Pay to Play www.naisa.ca/SoundBash.html Sound Bash Performances March 5 (Neil Wiernik), 12 (Alan Bloor), 19 (Bentley Jarvis), 26 (Rick Sacks) Sound Bash Performance tickets: $20 / purchase at the NAISA Space or www.naisa.ca/eshops/bashreg.php Pay-to-Play session: $20 / 20 minutes - schedule your session at www.naisa.ca/eshops/bashreg.php Download audio by donation starting March 1: recordings of performances/found objects www.naisa.ca/eshops/esoundbash.php In March, 2011 New Adventures in Sound Art (NAISA) turns 10! To celebrate we invite you to a bash like no other ... literally. For the month of March, NAISA's Installation Space will be filled with found objects especially selected because of the interesting sounds they make when struck or played, offering you a chance to play with sound and manipulate it live. "Since its inception in March 2001, New Adventures in Sound Art (NAISA) has provided a home for the sonic imagination in Toronto, a place where anyone can explore art through sound. As NAISA turns 10, we encourage you to join in the celebration both on-line and in person to help create a Bash like no other in which you invent and explore sound following the lead of your imagination." - Darren Copeland, NAISA Artistic Director Situated throughout the NAISA space will be everyday man-made objects, sometimes with contact mics attached and sometimes not, and NAISA will provide you with the tools to conceive and conduct your own performance. We'll even record it for prosperity and give you a copy! All to help support NAISA and its educational and presentation opportunities for sound and media artists. Celebrate and support NAISA with a bash that lasts. Go to www.naisa.ca/eshops/bashreg.php to schedule your pay-to-play session or buy tickets to any of the 8pm performances plus special guests on this evolving instrument / sound installation: March 5 Neil Wiernik (www.phoniq.net/) March 12 Alan Bloor (www.pholde.com) March 19 Bentley Jarvis March 26 Rick Sacks (www.rixax.com) For those not able to attend in person, you can still support NAISA by downloading your choice of audio recordings by donation http://www.naisa.ca/eshops/esoundbash.php . Included will be recordings of the found objects as well as recordings of performances on them by Neil Wiernik, Alan Bloor, Bentley Jarvis, Rick Sacks and many more supporters of NAISA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 21:35:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 272EB183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=81DJRU2UUbDZNapJWZOUUVwSErQrs8+8LJ+kmWzEQ2M=; b=MEfDDPIdThpqUbB/hyNQuDfC5FXRObt2DNkjfYqTJZYAnWKHBCd3OlZv41+ir7Cb8G usL2lfuj0Al0/2m4otcjxN3lxYH8pxjrEqoHgfk8yT3ofWsWbSFfAjl2lqTqUxkXTK7g LgT68XHEePOhpbBmlWUu4ol4yBYXn2KSgxpu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=H7djUNRBBUnNkMjvCWhIkspwCI4PLjhBkzE0BCHz6q5d2bw3HAjr8Tl90YVXFc3kss v3adoLDSU3LRd30mgqSizCxTU5fKWf/ZkGBQlM0jOy4MjwxXkvlCGPdQeTjKvqyiJFF6 W9fHbikirAhxBc9Hdn4FxcEEFWQQ5VorTOAgk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:35:40 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64718361e6b10049dd7298a Resent-Message-ID: <_SSbiC.A.yNG.t4_cNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64718361e6b10049dd7298a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 fwding this message from Ed, who has a japanese gmail acct, so LD site is blocked, sorry it took me so long ED, i check my email not very often (lazy!) message below.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ed Durbrow Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:32 PM Subject: Re: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com When my R-09 fell apart a while ago I bought a DR-03. It has a couple of nifty features the R-09 didn't have, but then time has marched on quite a bit since the R-09 first came out. I often use it in the car to listen to lectures, so one thing I like is the ability to increment the play speed by 10% intervals. This is handy if I've listened to a lecture but didn't put my full attention into it and then listen again at say 140%. Another feature that at first I could see no need for, but later found out could be very useful, was made clear to me when I went to a concert of a singer songwriter. There is a pre-record function. I can put it in record pause while the performer is futzing around and tuning, but not have to worry about missing the start of the tune because it records 2 seconds BEFORE I hit the record button! Negatives: Infuriatingly, it does not have a pause button. This actually made me decide to pay to get the R-09 repaired instead of throwing it out. When I'm composing, I might stop and think about where I'm going or try different chords. Without a pause button, every time I stop it creates a new file. This also seems to be a "feature" of most digital movie cameras these days. I don't understand the logic of this at all. Also, there seems to be only one speed to fast forward or review. At least you can go backwards past the beginning of a file to the previous file, which you cannot do on the R-09 (at least not on my version -the original). However, the R-09 would go faster the longer you held the FF or REV button. Listening to lectures, I often want to hear one sentence again. I often don't hit it just right and it goes to the beginning of the file (another infuriating thing). If it is a 1/2 hour or 45 minute file, it takes forever to find the place I was just listening to. I've got both the R-09 and the DR-03 with me on this trip to America (as well as my RC-2, to stay relevant). I just have to say that these devices have changed my life. If I have an idea in the middle of the night, instead of having to boot a computer, turn on mic pres, mixers, wait for the DAW to fire up and then save a file before I can even record, I just turn one of these guys on. Four second boot up time for the R-09, seven seconds for the DR-03. Love 'em. Saves heaps of space too because I just keep all my ideas as mp3s in iTunes. --0016e64718361e6b10049dd7298a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
fwding this message from Ed, who has a japanese gmail acct, so LD site= is blocked, sorry it took me so long ED, i check my email not very often (= lazy!)
message below....
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Ma= r 3, 2011 at 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com


When my R-09 fell apart a while ago I bought a DR-03. It has a coupl= e of nifty features the R-09 didn't have, but then time has marched on = quite a bit since the R-09 first came out. I often use it in the car to lis= ten to lectures, so one thing I like is the ability to increment the play s= peed by 10% intervals. This is handy if I've listened to a lecture but = didn't put my full attention into it and then listen again at say 140%.= Another feature that at first I could see no need for, but=A0 later found = out=A0 could be very useful, was made clear to me when I went to a concert = of a singer songwriter. There is a pre-record function. I can put it in rec= ord pause while the performer is futzing around and tuning, but not have to= worry about missing the start of the tune because it records 2 seconds BEF= ORE I hit the record button!

Negatives:
Infuriatingly, it does not have a pause button. This actua= lly made me decide to pay to get the R-09 repaired instead of throwing it o= ut. When I'm composing, I might stop and think about where I'm goin= g or try different chords. Without a pause button, every time I stop it cre= ates a new file. This also seems to be a "feature" of most digita= l movie cameras these days. I don't understand the logic of this at all= . Also, there seems to be only one speed to fast forward or review. At leas= t you can go backwards past the beginning of a file to the previous file, w= hich you cannot do on the R-09 (at least not on my version -the original). = However, the R-09 would go faster the longer you held the FF or REV button.= Listening to lectures, I often want to hear one sentence again. I often do= n't hit it just right and it goes to the beginning of the file (another= infuriating thing). If it is a 1/2 hour or 45 minute file, it takes foreve= r to find the place I was just listening to.

I've got both the R-09 and the DR-03 with me on this trip to America= (as well as my RC-2, to stay relevant). I just have to say that these devi= ces have changed my life. If I have an idea in the middle of the night, ins= tead of having to boot a computer, turn on mic pres, mixers, wait for the D= AW to fire up and then save a file before I can even record, I just turn on= e of these guys on. Four second boot up time for the R-09, seven seconds fo= r the DR-03. Love 'em. Saves heaps of space too because I just keep all= my ideas as mp3s in iTunes.

--0016e64718361e6b10049dd7298a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 21:48:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5CC7183464; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i3j9B7sFuqmBT/mu6dJhsR7dFIbCMgfNXzeKSbxsvhs=; b=FyCSixyXIvYHcN66Qkemlc5sWvKDqetUo6eKFbB2e7oXL66b3QrHDprk/DLwZhZnjE ayOOOBMHgJ9hG0uQEgBw99iSGFQEKjklrP7DSeihI+VDP95vcpjZajCvlxD0spsRnQcL CKfo90JzAOf3gTT0svcPExm9sndMiJlQNBkoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ec/VyGHlRFRObrnZj+Xr4ABTNuivC7Cz5uE2WdqlKvWwK/SkmO6PX+AC3+mo+91/hk hU794fBCAQqaE11KEQSX6yRMQuaSDek6Q+d3O7VGGag1Jb7PqaQqvWJUCIT3rnJEGFCl Scpg0hWU1gOudmjc/QnoItHwjK5s2wyQk8wxo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfc0ad183d5049dd75524 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 21:48:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfc0ad183d5049dd75524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just realized while setting up for a Ninjam that my Digitech Timebender can do some pretty cool freeze/hold/play over it stuff. The only issue I guess is that you have to hold a pedal for about a sec before it freezes and holds what you just played. Then a quick tap and press and hold to change note/chord or whatever. I'll try to record something later for an example. J On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, E Gross wrote: > > Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool. > > > > I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can > you > > give a suggestion? > > Many so called tape delay simulator plugins can do that. Just assign a > kick switch or expression pedal to its feedback parameter and trim the > values to make the freeze work. After trying many I have settled with > the software plugin for this is EchoBoy from SoundToys. There is also > the reverb plugin Eos that has an "Infinite" button that you can > assign to your foot pedal. But I can't recommend Eos because it gives > an audible click noise if going into or out of freeze mode as audio > passes through the plugin. Another reason I like EchoBoy better is > that it doesn't really freeze audio in the technical sense, it simple > keeps a loop at 99 percent feedback and from this comes that the > fidelity slowly degrades during "freeze time" and I like that effect a > lot. Oh, and of course you have to set up a signal routing to pass by > the EchoBoy during its "freeze time". > > Best wishes > --20cf307cfc0ad183d5049dd75524 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just realized while setting up for a Ninjam that my Digitech Timebender c= an do some pretty cool freeze/hold/play over it stuff. The only issue I gue= ss is that you have to hold a pedal for about a sec before it freezes and h= olds what you just played. Then a quick tap and press and hold to change no= te/chord or whatever. I'll try to record something later for an example= .

J

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Per= Boysen <perboy= sen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool.
>
> I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, c= an you
> give a suggestion?

Many so called tape delay simulator plugins can do that. Just assign a
kick switch or expression pedal to its feedback parameter and trim the
values to make the freeze work. After trying many I have settled with
the software plugin for this is EchoBoy from SoundToys. There is also
the reverb plugin Eos that has an "Infinite" button that you can<= br> assign to your foot pedal. But I can't recommend Eos because it gives an audible click noise if going into or out of freeze mode as audio
passes through the plugin. Another reason I like EchoBoy better is
that it doesn't really freeze audio in the technical sense, it simple keeps a loop at 99 percent feedback and from this comes that the
fidelity slowly degrades during "freeze time" and I like that eff= ect a
lot. Oh, and of course you have to set up a signal routing to pass by
the EchoBoy during its "freeze time".

Best wishes

--20cf307cfc0ad183d5049dd75524-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 22:21:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66C51183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7408D8.5070608@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:21:12 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #726 for March 3, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:21:18 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110303.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #726 March 3, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Five Nocturnes" on O-Town Music. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Gert Emmens Opaque Divergence Metamorphosis (Groove) Spyra Wale Im Bergwerk No Beats For 1 Hour (Ricochet Dream) Spyra Orange Toad No Beats For 1 Hour (Ricochet Dream) Meg Bowles A Quiet Light A Quiet Light (Kumatone) Richard Lainhart Nocturme 0 (050998) Five Nocturnes (O-Town) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Lainhart Nocturme 0 (091998) Five Nocturnes (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Nocturme 1 (082998) Five Nocturnes (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Nocturme 2 (101399) Five Nocturnes (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Nocturme 3 (041900) Five Nocturnes (O-Town) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Staring at the Moon" on O-Town Music. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 23:01:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10EFC183460; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D741247.3040907@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:01:27 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 5, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110305.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #193 March 5, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Shroud of Night * Circadian Rhythms (Timeroom) VA [Future 11] Music Is My Life Sequences No. 12 VA [Synthesis] Invasion Sequences No. 12 VA [Robert Scott Air Friction Sequences No. 12 Thompson] Ombient Sleep Ombient (none) Alpha Wave Movment Eternal Panorama Soniq Variants (Harmonic Resonance Recordings) Steve Dinsdale Consequences On the Other Side (Northern Echoe) Nattefrost In Natura Dying Sun/Scarlet Moon (Groove) Phase II/Eclectic: Today, Phase II was pre-empted by Phase I. Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== The Tangent The Cantebury Down and Out in Paris and London Sequence Volume 2 (InsideOut) Trey Gunn Dziban I'll Tell You What I Saw (7D Media) Kaipa The Fleeting Angling Feelings (InsideOut) Existence of Time Spock's Beard Jaws of Heaven X (none) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 6 23:39:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD1E6183461; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1299454793; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=xdGkhwUQC804nTXmewG9bIr4Qbk=; b=VrThOPAWN4CezF5higB7b1Omkn8Da22hcCuXysFEVtz81Lj4y4Ur/JUXLf3IXJbg niyJzaE85RbS9MQyid/1soeMDtgwOzLfGObq0T+G/zH5Lu7pN3IoIpySeD5MxudH; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=STHQe3hemprxncH1aCOzXxA6BAAwjh7/W54CY/t+fLw= c=1 sm=0 a=ELFYz56uvVKOtalXhPMSGQ==:17 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=3OMzQ-2_AAAA:8 a=-nk4yflcbnBFwECfG40A:9 a=Rnz5edbTR3PcrR43ZqjEGvxtC90A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=oOX0lASgjZsA:10 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=VvyYyYBvrjEZiaoKwlgA:9 a=KCYBWo-C7RlL8WyIGysA:7 a=Lp6UAdJO2MYm7GG4BBv0hRCWwzUA:4 a=ELFYz56uvVKOtalXhPMSGQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> To: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Lower octave Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:39:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01CBDC2D.E39FA280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcvcVyJBu2JfVYE6QjqAcaD6YiHWkAAAC9cQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:39:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CBDC2D.E39FA280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works great, sometimes sounds unrealistic. You have to dial the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y, or rather, distorted", instead of sounding like a true bass. But used with an eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to one's loops and playing. Edward _____ From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote: I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to do) -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CBDC2D.E39FA280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my = "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works great, sometimes sounds = unrealistic.

 

You have to dial the knobs just = right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y, or rather, distorted", = instead of sounding like a true bass.

 

But used with an eBow, it really = adds some droney depth and low-end to one's loops and = playing.

 

Edward

 

From: Matt = Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, = 2011 12:27 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Lower = octave

 

I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much = better

 

Matt = Stevens

www.mattsteve= nsguitar.com

 



 

On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters = wrote:



I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that = he

used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to = his flute. I

want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the = lower notes)

into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations?  (Andy, you = will

probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because = more often

than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not = sure what to

do)

 

-Michael

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CBDC2D.E39FA280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 01:56:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0B61183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=73GiSrUzEr/7EKNDSI1jFLn6WFoe7bsIyVXisRJTnHo=; b=qsY3jWnRdEZKeL5tA/nwCpci0YnecGucFlMylQlgdNwGIX7svMmrUhx52T4BfpMrK/ c3vHFU/FSgAjQvfsLWNOq8e5DyyQ6YszBda/QneCD0ekGbs+QSsKd+mGjAf+dkRA3p1b veYaoZiUfHkrFtx8mUcDxFZ/eqzx51024DUcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bqvsquFZYUOJEji2qgcemGtMaeh/EgRhXbJIwNrPCbCwL2vbQiMLAZovvyvzAf9CrE Zpki14TmMUl0vUE0sFKLKmFKUEXUpFQuPEK4zQ5ffr0LP3FHPkVZIPzkhSRnTnueRBHc N1zTXZf/X3s5/E/gFn8APIAA17AhjvjLNv1Gk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:56:46 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8a66ebe46f049ddacef2 Resent-Message-ID: <9r8A2C.A.IuD.gtDdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8a66ebe46f049ddacef2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i will agree w/ ed's comments on the dr03. i really love it. i've been listening to my playing, and i tend to just do freeform stuff, but have been liking the results. the funniest thing is that i'm finding that my amp sounds different on the recorder (which is basically in front of the amp for the most part) than what i hear when i sit on the side of it. but i think it sounds better than what i'm hearing! ha! i will agree that the one thing i don't like about the dr03 is the lack of the "PAUSE" button. seems odd. but the small size and the results of what i've recorded, i'm loving it. need to sit down and load some stuff up on the computer. may have to break out the manual (dread-the horror!!!!!) s--- , ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ed Durbrow Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:32 PM Subject: Re: small digital recorders-TASCAM DR03 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com When my R-09 fell apart a while ago I bought a DR-03. It has a couple of nifty features the R-09 didn't have, but then time has marched on quite a bit since the R-09 first came out. I often use it in the car to listen to lectures, so one thing I like is the ability to increment the play speed by 10% intervals. This is handy if I've listened to a lecture but didn't put my full attention into it and then listen again at say 140%. Another feature that at first I could see no need for, but later found out could be very useful, was made clear to me when I went to a concert of a singer songwriter. There is a pre-record function. I can put it in record pause while the performer is futzing around and tuning, but not have to worry about missing the start of the tune because it records 2 seconds BEFORE I hit the record button! Negatives: Infuriatingly, it does not have a pause button. This actually made me decide to pay to get the R-09 repaired instead of throwing it out. When I'm composing, I might stop and think about where I'm going or try different chords. Without a pause button, every time I stop it creates a new file. This also seems to be a "feature" of most digital movie cameras these days. I don't understand the logic of this at all. Also, there seems to be only one speed to fast forward or review. At least you can go backwards past the beginning of a file to the previous file, which you cannot do on the R-09 (at least not on my version -the original). However, the R-09 would go faster the longer you held the FF or REV button. Listening to lectures, I often want to hear one sentence again. I often don't hit it just right and it goes to the beginning of the file (another infuriating thing). If it is a 1/2 hour or 45 minute file, it takes forever to find the place I was just listening to. I've got both the R-09 and the DR-03 with me on this trip to America (as well as my RC-2, to stay relevant). I just have to say that these devices have changed my life. If I have an idea in the middle of the night, instead of having to boot a computer, turn on mic pres, mixers, wait for the DAW to fire up and then save a file before I can even record, I just turn one of these guys on. Four second boot up time for the R-09, seven seconds for the DR-03. Love 'em. Saves heaps of space too because I just keep all my ideas as mp3s in iTunes. On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: i ended my search, bought a tascam dr03. saw they were on sale at MF for $79, they honored the $15 gift card from GC (my local GC didn't have it), & i had a 40$ gift certificate too. so i didn't pay much for it. should note i had been debating either the olympus dm420 or ws700-small digital voice recorders...but then saw the tascams in my MF catalog... i originally wanted to get the DR07,but both GC & MF were out of them, and come to find out, it's discontinued...it looks a little bigger, think it has a few more options. besides the price, a few reviews i read basically said it's an EASY recorder to use, which i wanted (i'm dumb & lazy). FIRST REACTIONS-when i got it on tues, the box WEIGHED NOTHING. when i took it out of the mailing box, the packaging weighed less than NOTHING. i wondered if anything was in there. when i took it out, i couldn't believe how small & light it was. i also thought it looked kind of cheap/plasticy, wondered how it will last, but i figured i didn't pay much for it...i was bummed it had no headphones w/ it (the olympus recorders come w/ some). wed night i did a cursory read of the manual (barely)-just checked to see which option for recording, i set it on one of the higher MP3 settings (they start it at highest PCM recordings-which gives the 2mb memory card about 2 hrs of recording)-and the recording time went to 14 hrs, which i thought was plenty of time for my need-i really wanted to just record my practice/playing time and listen back to try to work on my playing technique. have no illusions of recording anything masterpiece-ful to wow anyone--really just wanted to hear my playing to work on things. i recorded 2 little sessions on wed, one thursday morning, one thur afternoon. i was a little scared to listen back. wasn't sure if i'd just hear that i SUCK, or if the sound would suck, etc (should note i've done recording on my old 4 track tascam, my digital cd recorder, & my digital fostex 8 track). i think some reviews of people saying small recorders have crappy sound was in my head, and i figured the stereo mics in the thing were probably not great. well, after listening to the stuff i recorded, i'm really blown away by the sound. honesty really captures my sound/ playing i thought (warts & all). so far i've had it about a foot away from my fender amp a bit off to the side. it's a nice little recorder. i won't say that it will compete w/ any more expensive digital recorder (the $200 or $500 & up ones), but for $80 it's decent. certainly for capturing ideas it's easy to use, especially for me. the funny thing i've learning in my playing: i'm always STIFF in the beginning, and things sound better when i'm playing against my drum machine...at least so far....the other thing i like is it is small, not hard to carry to and from work which is part of the time i use for listening.... i'm finding in all my stuff so far once i get loosened up, i've done some little loop things w/ my digitech DL8 and played over it, textures, noise, lots of my FUZZ MACHINE use w/ my swollen pickle stuff, little processing from my korg kaoss pad 2....i really love it. don't know if it will meet everyone's needs, not sure how it compares w/ the zoom ones, but i like this one. happy looping. s--- --0016e6dd8a66ebe46f049ddacef2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i will agree w/ ed's comments on the dr03. i= really love it. i've been listening to my playing, and i tend to just = do freeform stuff, but have been liking the results. the funniest thing is = that i'm finding that my amp sounds different on the recorder (which is= basically in front of the amp for the most part) than what i hear when i s= it on the side of it. but i think it sounds better than what i'm hearin= g! ha!
=A0
i will agree that the one thing i don't like= about the dr03 is the lack of the "PAUSE" button. seems odd. but= the small size and the results of what i've recorded, i'm loving i= t. need to sit down and load some stuff up on the computer. may have to bre= ak out the manual (dread-the horror!!!!!)
s---
,

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:= Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com>=
Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: small digital recorders-= TASCAM DR03
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


When my= R-09 fell apart a while ago I bought a DR-03. It has a couple of nifty fea= tures the R-09 didn't have, but then time has marched on quite a bit si= nce the R-09 first came out. I often use it in the car to listen to lecture= s, so one thing I like is the ability to increment the play speed by 10% in= tervals. This is handy if I've listened to a lecture but didn't put= my full attention into it and then listen again at say 140%. Another featu= re that at first I could see no need for, but=A0 later found out=A0 could b= e very useful, was made clear to me when I went to a concert of a singer so= ngwriter. There is a pre-record function. I can put it in record pause whil= e the performer is futzing around and tuning, but not have to worry about m= issing the start of the tune because it records 2 seconds BEFORE I hit the = record button!

Negatives:
Infuriatingly, it does not have a pause button. This actu= ally made me decide to pay to get the R-09 repaired instead of throwing it = out. When I'm composing, I might stop and think about where I'm goi= ng or try different chords. Without a pause button, every time I stop it cr= eates a new file. This also seems to be a "feature" of most digit= al movie cameras these days. I don't understand the logic of this at al= l. Also, there seems to be only one speed to fast forward or review. At lea= st you can go backwards past the beginning of a file to the previous file, = which you cannot do on the R-09 (at least not on my version -the original).= However, the R-09 would go faster the longer you held the FF or REV button= . Listening to lectures, I often want to hear one sentence again. I often d= on't hit it just right and it goes to the beginning of the file (anothe= r infuriating thing). If it is a 1/2 hour or 45 minute file, it takes forev= er to find the place I was just listening to.

I've got both the R-09 and the DR-03 with me on this trip to Americ= a (as well as my RC-2, to stay relevant). I just have to say that these dev= ices have changed my life. If I have an idea in the middle of the night, in= stead of having to boot a computer, turn on mic pres, mixers, wait for the = DAW to fire up and then save a file before I can even record, I just turn o= ne of these guys on. Four second boot up time for the R-09, seven seconds f= or the DR-03. Love 'em. Saves heaps of space too because I just keep al= l my ideas as mp3s in iTunes.


On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Scott Hansen wrote:

i ended my s= earch, bought a tascam dr03.
saw they were on sale at MF for $79, they h= onored the $15 gift card from GC (my local GC didn't have it), & i = had a 40$ gift certificate too. so i didn't pay much for it.

should note i had been debating either the olympus dm420 or ws700-small= digital voice recorders...but then saw the tascams in my MF catalog...
= i originally wanted to get the DR07,but both GC & MF were out of them, = and come to find out, it's discontinued...it looks a little bigger, thi= nk it has a few more options. besides the price, a few reviews i read basic= ally said it's an EASY recorder to use, which i wanted (i'm dumb &a= mp; lazy).

FIRST REACTIONS-when i got it on tues, the box WEIGHED NOTHING. when i = took it out of the mailing box, the packaging weighed less than NOTHING. i = wondered if anything was in there. when i took it out, i couldn't belie= ve how small & light it was. i also thought it looked kind of cheap/pla= sticy, wondered how it will last, but i figured i didn't pay much for i= t...i was bummed it had no headphones w/ it (the olympus recorders come w/ = some). wed night i did a cursory read of the manual (barely)-just checked t= o see which option for recording, i set it on one of the higher MP3 setting= s (they start it at highest PCM recordings-which gives the 2mb memory card = about 2 hrs of recording)-and the recording time went to 14 hrs, which i th= ought was plenty of time for my need-i really wanted to just record my prac= tice/playing time and listen back to try to work on my playing technique. h= ave no illusions of recording anything masterpiece-ful to wow anyone--reall= y just wanted to hear my playing to work on things.
i recorded 2 little sessions on wed, one thursday morning, one thur afterno= on. i was a little scared to listen back. wasn't sure if i'd just h= ear that i SUCK, or if the sound would suck, etc (should note i've done= recording on my old 4 track tascam, my digital cd recorder, & my digit= al fostex 8 track). i think some reviews of people saying small recorders h= ave crappy sound was in my head, and i figured the stereo mics in the thing= were probably not great. well, after listening to the stuff i recorded, i&= #39;m really blown away by the sound. honesty really captures my sound/ pla= ying i thought (warts & all). so far i've had it about a foot away = from my fender amp a bit off to the side. it's a nice little recorder. = i won't say that it will compete w/ any more expensive digital recorder= (the $200 or $500 & up ones), but for $80 it's decent. certainly f= or capturing ideas it's easy to use, especially for me. the funny thing= i've learning in my playing: i'm always STIFF in the beginning, an= d things sound better when i'm playing against my drum machine...at lea= st so far....the other thing i like is it is small, not hard to carry to an= d from work which is part of the time i use for listening....
=A0
i'm finding in all my stuff so far once i get loosened up, i'= ;ve done some little loop things w/ my digitech DL8 and played over it, tex= tures, noise, lots of my FUZZ MACHINE use
w/ my swollen pickle stuff, li= ttle processing from my korg kaoss pad 2....i really love it. don't kno= w if it will meet everyone's needs, not sure how it
compares w/ the zoom ones, but i like this one.
happy looping.
s---


--0016e6dd8a66ebe46f049ddacef2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 02:33:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3FB9183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oGgqn46+asj8dM8Lx+PvOaNmFnmiFgA6WfkEDeF7n7Y=; b=UFMn+dah8Iuq9oWWCRBIr4ElnKlmS2DxrAh5T/mihhlSPMg9tHQ8U/nOAZX8fZGMSk w5H+Iu29lBcIPCY8gjw4NGCtEAfn/TYfG9NU+uDO7Th+eySpGZBkBUnUDipwKRZM2Z/V ZsuE+GWcSyhJGdS40qCn6xeex8MtywQlxTizQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JZk6q+Yan3TWjDv/lupkA2zYHRIdBgpYrj0m6lcIbt0qfOthTMuQPrOM+hLyI3Shpn xXF/jbTPbX+BluSzqVXxZ43CPqJr2QLCGBjgo4MrVHQs2P/YAvauImBLkSNg+N3SrvJK M9HjucKaGqXM+VEjYLw0tf4O0ZXdzmJZSpZXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:33:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Lower octave I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) into a bas From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48726836f92049ddb51ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:33:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48726836f92049ddb51ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower > notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to > do) > Michael, I searched for the very same thing recently. I checked several web sites and reviews and ended up buying an Octron2 based mostly on demos I heard on YouTube. I haven't messed with it too much, but I can see I'll probably be happy with it. It tracks pretty well. One feature I like is that there are three foot switches and they are spaced so you can step on two at a time if you like. For example, if you have just the lower octave happening, you could step on that and the direct switch at the same time to switch immediately over to direct mode. Same with upper octave. Caveat: the only thing I have to compare it to is the octave shifter in my Zoom PFX9003, which is extremely useless. --000e0cd48726836f92049ddb51ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I watched Theo Tr= avis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he
used a Boss OC-= 2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I
want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes= )
into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations?=A0 (Andy, you = will
probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because mor= e often
than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what todo)


Michael,
I searched for the very same thin= g recently. I checked several web sites and reviews and ended up buying an = Octron2 based mostly on demos I heard on YouTube. I haven't messed with= it too much, but I can see I'll probably be happy with it. It tracks p= retty well. One feature I like is that there are three foot switches and th= ey are spaced so you can step on two at a time if you like. For example, if= you have just the lower octave happening, you could step on that and the d= irect switch at the same time to switch immediately over to direct mode. Sa= me with upper octave.
Caveat: the only thing I have to compare it to is the octave shifter in my = Zoom PFX9003, which is extremely useless.
--000e0cd48726836f92049ddb51ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 02:37:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D1AF183464; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:37:28 +0900 Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Roger O'Donnell Thread-Index: AcvccJmAyp5Y1jTDSOyZLgK8nf1jxQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:37:31 +0000 (UTC) On 3/7/11 5:12 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: >> There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI doesnt >> remind me of any software I know... > > *That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer". <*sigh*> http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ ;) --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 06:01:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 097FA18344B; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7474C6.8070801@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:01:42 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:01:48 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to > do) > > -Michael For what it's worth, when Arild Andersen played the looping festival, I promised him to find him a Boss OC-2 for his octaving purposes. When he came, however, I let him borrow both the OC-2 and my Danelectro Chili Dog (which also has a combination of regular octave, one octave below and two octaves below). Arild made me sell him my unit, which cost all of $29 USD on line http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Danelectro-DJ12-Chili-Dog-Octave-Pedal?sku=151871 This thing is amazing. I think it tracks better and sounds more naturalistic than the OC-2 and it's hella cheap. I can't more highly recommend it. It's so cheap that it's rather hip to buy two of them (that potentially four octaves of pitch shifting down........wooohoooooo. I did this for a while but then gave my second unit to Sayaka Kabuki to use, my bandmate in Noise Clinic while I played with them...........I'm glad she has it, but I miss it. Of course, this will create very artifacty things, but I personally love using inexepensive pitch shifters and doing things like sending things four octaves up and the bringing them four octaves down.............some beautiful artifacts result. I also use the pricier Boss Pitch Shifter which goes low but I use the Chili Dog for all of my bass needs because it tracks better and sounds more naturalistic. Two enthusiastic thumbs up!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 06:06:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DBAD183463; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7475EB.6050804@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:06:35 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lower octave References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:06:58 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> I have also used MXR Blue Box which was ok in the hardware world. And > POG of course, if you have more money... I have the Micro Pog (which is awesome) but, from my understanding and , certainly from the sound, this instrument generates a synthetic octave up and octave down and is not a true pitch shifter. Do I have this right? It certainly sounds synthetic but wouldn't sound very organic with , say, a flute. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:15:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B5418345F; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 589400033/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8CAKcwdE1YbRWA/2dsb2JhbAAMmEDMWYViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,276,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="589400033" Message-ID: <4D74A23F.3090409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:15:43 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? The Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer is far superior to the OC2. (cheaper too) Convincingly powerful sound. Excellent tracking. > (Andy, you will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to > do) make sure gate control is at zero, ...if no fix, drop me a line andy > > -Michael > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:19:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C0F318345F; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299489566; bh=LeYjCDlx1tt0VemU8GVi2obmKcZY95aN1VC9nAsblSA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cU0nyjBBz5382QFp77dagRxz2h45q+K6M46S9s5VXzIxSqIzyS9a4OFzSVl2Dpo0CWlxIuF+LXvOJvZHteFp8mTfD0B1Ol5bgCILW0Lv8aWvYwnEBOGFIcrbl7Z17TPR0ECMTslDnsKF8ujKczLdnekku4izOpPQXjNW95qramU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YcQU5/pfq/MbD4Wzjv359sCzY4vAyTKN2ZfkjQJWqvytIwFV5MLtkQkOjvimqIxTXyPbrSwNcAfT94eArk8DmraqvPKM7sZoQ+sYmTktuUhVSLlLBXNNGTb7EDfnaC6ONFGlTIH4T1ebGblX7xrbK63bot6u2uVeKarZiT3+tbo=; Message-ID: <669736.49904.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kZm3Zi8VM1mYkLcB205X5Cqu7X4EoNdZPhYm49bs34o2G7K ZoIo3ieqcVlVp9uCn6C94B9uA.ovx60z0U3ffIr8q0ICbNHIvf22tsZ8HBIl E9mRxQN56F5SqP6OWpAjrtShjYJTfOYHxjwT6D_hycRXvwTbOOLxljZ9oQUb lJ0CPxT50xIRZnQ3_FLz0.yj4EhAgi1KKlhR4IPbCICymYdItW5FWXg_0kT. cJD6k7S79nJDB7F.MUR2LQqemRck0BoB.kERnDpsghhcJow7_55xgP3JPgyH 5GcKjhGAqpOP37FsAk2uWcPSqgrfSXbvLtLWxaiq4xRcsdPozsOrvA7vKuz9 tdIH5q5X00sM- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> <4D74A23F.3090409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 01:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Lower octave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D74A23F.3090409@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1617753703-1299489566=:49904" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:19:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1617753703-1299489566=:49904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eventide are the masters of pitch shifting. They must have a pedal that does this stuff. Antony ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:43 AM Subject: Re: Lower octave Michael Peters wrote: > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? The Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer is far superior to the OC2. (cheaper too) Convincingly powerful sound. Excellent tracking. > (Andy, you will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to > do) make sure gate control is at zero, ...if no fix, drop me a line andy > > -Michael > > > --0-1617753703-1299489566=:49904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Eventide are the masters of pitch shifting. They must have a pedal that does this stuff.

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:43 AM
Subject: Re: Lower octave



Michael Peters wrote:
> I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he
> used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I
> want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes)
> into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations?

The Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer is far
superior to the OC2.
(cheaper too)

Convincingly powerful sound.
Excellent tracking.

>  (Andy, you will
> probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often
> than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to
> do)

make sure gate control is at zero,
...if no fix, drop me a line

andy

>
> -Michael
>
>
>


--0-1617753703-1299489566=:49904-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:22:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C9F1183462; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580681949/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8CAP4ydE1YbRWA/2dsb2JhbAAMmEDMXIViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,276,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="580681949" Message-ID: <4D74A404.1010300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:23:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-jODPD.A.8kE.yPKdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > I always planned to get the Pog, but it didnt track the string pair too well. I've done "a lot" of looking into the tracking of pitch, and one string is hard enough. Two strings? ....no way. a harmoniser that can cope with polyphonic playing would be a better bet. (although the price will be latency) andy ps, yep, I know the EH stuff claims "polyphonic", but they assume rawk chords. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:37:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B1A183459; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/avhznv1zcsOWyz3VNkgSi4uraBIugSt9x5K8PI0orE=; b=LoTWnyYZhi+BP2GuVDgNNVaQrFY5mM4pRiwMk6uuGMWKecCS18jcYKPeJy2L7NdDas 001vkyYzL2OQQTrT3nsrXQoqtFv28hkNSqLw3YeG/wLHye2hPD0xZTjDi0W528I1XiLn REh5HzQ6Ysvco+m1hmlaFLubKxk7FKTmmRkfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lPjjkaKh0as4mDVGzJoN44UgG506Et3yNhVgNFR2Q8CkAJ+ODHQ3Lvp2oeCEIZY244 oHiuspRabjST706mi3+9gSFSU+2tddDabjV91A0kT3ThWQ6+TfjbkRj5jBuXL1hwiLXS bUb6S0soU6uIDU6U5bh+hhDtRfJO+W3kP84l0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D74A404.1010300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> <4D74A404.1010300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:37:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lower octave From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:37:43 +0000 (UTC) The octaver on the M9 is excellent in fact it tracks better than the OC-3 whats cool about the OC-3 though is the "poly" option you can dial it so it tracks only the E and A string for ex. and the rest of them normal so when you play chords it sounds like you are playing bass at the same time. Im selling one in ebay at the moment http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110656922152 cheers Luis On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:23 AM, andy butler wrote: > Andy Owens wrote: >> >> I always planned to get the Pog, but it didnt track the string pair too >> well. > > I've done "a lot" of looking into the tracking of pitch, > and one string is hard enough. > Two strings? ....no way. > > a harmoniser that can cope with polyphonic playing > would be a better bet. (although the price will be latency) > > andy > ps, yep, I know the EH stuff claims "polyphonic", > but they assume rawk chords. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:39:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8149418345F; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585780301/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8CAEg2dE1YbRWA/2dsb2JhbAAMmEDMZYViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,276,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585780301" Message-ID: <4D74A7FB.9000909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:40:11 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <74n6hC.A.R-E.pfKdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:39:53 +0000 (UTC) ejyuhas wrote: > I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it > But used with an eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to > one's loops and playing. treat yourself to the EH Octave unit. ( and get back your money by selling the OC2, that's what I did) I never thought the OC2 felt like bass, but the EH Octave Multiplexer really does, (well to me anyway, I'm primarily a bass player) The Sub Off setting is pretty amazing with an ebow too. apologies for kind of a rant, if the OC2 works for you then it's good by definition andy ps tone suck? the bypass on the OC2 does that, well it did for me anyway, to the extent I couldn't tolerate it in the signal chain. ...and check out the actual dry sound when you mix in the dry signal, that's really feeble. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:44:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5012D183465; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585782895/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.21.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.21.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8CAHM3dE1YbRWA/2dsb2JhbAAMmEDMW4ViBI9n X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,276,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585782895" Message-ID: <4D74A922.2000804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:45:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave Micro Pog References: <4D7475EB.6050804@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7475EB.6050804@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:44:47 +0000 (UTC) hi Rick, yes and no ;-) It's a true pitch shifter, but it uses really small chunks for it's granular processing. (relying on identifying the pitch). The small chunks make for a synthetic sound, but mean that the POG can get zero latency when shifting down. Be aware, the pitch up on the Micro Pog does have latency (unavoidable for upwards pitch shift) and it's a bit flat in pitch (== bend the nots up a bit) andy Rick Walker wrote: > I have the Micro Pog (which is awesome) but, from my understanding and , > certainly from the sound, > this instrument generates a synthetic octave up and octave down and is > not a true pitch shifter. > > Do I have this right? It certainly sounds synthetic but wouldn't > sound very organic with , say, > a flute. > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 09:46:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD0BC183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HL+KCxRkPuebLdyazVNcX0Gju9bHevUjBfR3SMIkugM=; b=Lz0ukojy/78HfpaLf1ZZNm1uOK8cOJ2ESNcdwCySRA3r6+3C/d4UcmoePiw/hPPvEs sZTM5NyZrOoJjRd3Wi8R1ymcyzErUaS3P/eG6Cr5dtfBihl4m+nid+Po2y1YW2g+Zx2f Ifu0CskOsQIirpHIqWzApUngFWyntJDkxg67Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NaPDme86ddo7sNbyYT9T8JiaXXRLKvRYLoMmvQZT491QHNVlF48Tp6EjM4lDYATG4c WakZ32AN55/5wqBKYABeBFZARo0y/z1FKyE/5ZDapQAH6r9xeaqB1aMGy+tTX3h9NVx/ ukeOhNDjheXXmy1FLALfTFr9Og2e3yDPByXhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:46:25 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Antwerp From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2537c8266c1049de15e06 Resent-Message-ID: <-9JZlC.A.ANF.ylKdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:46:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2537c8266c1049de15e06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well i'm back from the antwerp loopfestival and i'd just like to give a big thanks to sjaak and ingrid for their wonderful hospitality and thank sjaak for a superb festival. the organisation was flawless and we had a lovely evening with some wonderful artists and great music. my own set was a little flawed, with a combination of use error and some software problems, but i learned a lot and will be redesigning my setup, so that it is simpler and a bit more sturdy. lots of photos and video to come in the following weeks, so please check them out and enjoy all the wonderful music! sim --000e0cd2537c8266c1049de15e06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well i'm back from the antwerp loopfestival and i'd just like to gi= ve a big thanks to sjaak and ingrid for their wonderful hospitality and tha= nk sjaak for a superb festival. the organisation was flawless and we had a = lovely evening with some wonderful artists and great music.

my own set was a little flawed, with a combination of use error and som= e software problems, but i learned a lot and will be redesigning my setup, = so that it is simpler and a bit more sturdy.

lots of photos and vide= o to come in the following weeks, so please check them out and enjoy all th= e wonderful music!

sim
--000e0cd2537c8266c1049de15e06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 10:29:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C3A183462; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDAAC9B34B5DB9_EB4_123B7_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAAC9B3338FEF-EB4-82D5@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 05:29:40 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:472766208:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29094d74b3941c1f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDAAC9B34B5DB9_EB4_123B7_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. The FM can do= a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, just like the orig= inal. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic possibilities. PJ -----Original Message----- From: ejyuhas To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm Subject: RE: Lower octave I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my "guitaras bass" sounds...sometimes it works gr= eat, sometimes sounds unrealistic. =20 You have to dial the knobs just right,otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y,= or rather, distorted", insteadof sounding like a true bass. =20 But used with an eBow, it really adds somedroney depth and low-end to one's= loops and playing. =20 Edward =20 From: Matt Stevens[mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:27PM To:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave =20 I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better =20 Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 =20 On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote: I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to hisflute. I want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lowernotes) into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because moreoften than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure whatto do) =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CDAAC9B34B5DB9_EB4_123B7_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. The= FM can do a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, just lik= e the original. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic possibilities.

3D":-)"PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm
Subject: RE: Lower octave

I'm using a Bos= s OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works great, sometimes sounds unrealistic.
 
You have to dia= l the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y, or rather, distorted", instead of sounding like a true bass.
 
But used with a= n eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to one's loops and playing.
 
Edward
 
From:= Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensgui= tar@btinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011= 12:27 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Lower octave
 
I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much bet= ter
 
 
On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote:


I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in = Antwerp, and saw that he
used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lo= wer octave to his flute. I
want something that reliably turns guitar notes (= especially the lower notes)
into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommenda= tions?  (Andy, you will
probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help us= ing it because more often
than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very qu= ickly - not sure what to
do)
 
-Michael
 
 
 
----------MB_8CDAAC9B34B5DB9_EB4_123B7_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 10:31:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 142CF183453; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 952066.51744.bm@omp1029.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=1nxY+hhssThTDU9mqyHm9vbBIomBw2lM206YYxVu9Tbhn4FpV5E+TPiMx76kIdwCv/XoBD0CPnrnZ9mo8oDunVyfa/ZR8XnNpuk6bmnZQehDGN7rlb2FV5mLBlqeRoHLM7ePLU4k5pxA9z1T7u6MhCq+oGr8UD0rc8Ww4U72LvA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1299493881; bh=Mdg7zB2HdmDKpIQQznOzekbfpPz3SG0H5cLUCXeQ4oA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=iypEoqBN5vutbgfwOij9WwOF54hDqVwOhzTgOTF6eBJhA2m3xHC4WQv9QbJqHjVZ6uKLNMjRkB42aL/LbGpNHLuueyKQLP9qUtTPT2YjKZ6YFWCC/j8EwwXHsc1vXfRyDJ/QAZjHDb62XQpEwGzMPQEJexMTG7Rb/XmnhQo2Qv8= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: UYKateoVM1kZtvUGjC9Y78_GhjONvqdPgFFUdAKOZa2YkKf yDyyA1QO.QEJ9wigQ785ekBbpkgKgHI3eBADJP5LVwFO.EmZwXPv4MkqqHsG ckj0ACB_gfnfpHmO44ZBchuT07yU9GUJD4iEsn2gb7u0S70d9EQUkutjpf09 2RkKGBquzvqYeliZJdgQjt9t9dnwnzMrRySKYe8zUhuQRTX1l0e2AI1.B5aG PkJlKz2oUGm2G56mayag3xldvMj9CuMdpI8bz9wxEvZ3FKBVjyGW2AVAoRCV aPsqZ3nekZ6VbdrQNXg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8CDAAC9B3338FEF-EB4-82D5@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> References: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <8CDAAC9B3338FEF-EB4-82D5@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--935869685 Message-Id: <95F389A7-6B6D-40B1-BC72-3FF6CADBFF72@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Lower octave Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:31:17 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:31:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--935869685 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Agreed - its a bugger to control thou :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 7 Mar 2011, at 10:29, Patrick Bishop wrote: > I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. The > FM can do a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, > just like the original. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic > possibilities. > > PJ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ejyuhas > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm > Subject: RE: Lower octave > > I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it > works great, sometimes sounds unrealistic. > > You have to dial the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets > "too vibe-y, or rather, distorted", instead of sounding like a true > bass. > > But used with an eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end > to one's loops and playing. > > Edward > > From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Lower octave > > I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote: > > > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw > that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his > flute. I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the > lower notes) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you > will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because > more often > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure > what to > do) > > -Michael > > > --Apple-Mail-3--935869685 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Agreed - its a bugger to control thou :)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 7 Mar 2011, = at 10:29, Patrick Bishop wrote:

I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. = The FM can do a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, = just like the original. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic = possibilities.

3D":-)"PJ

=


-----Orig= inal Message-----
From: ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com>
= To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm
Subject: = RE: Lower octave

=
I'm using a = Boss OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works great, = sometimes sounds unrealistic.
 
You have to = dial the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y, or = rather, distorted", instead of sounding like a true = bass.
 
But used with = an eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to one's loops and = playing.
 
Edward
 
=
From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar= @btinternet.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:27 = PM
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: Re: Lower = octave
 
I = use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better
=
 
=
 
On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters = wrote:


I watched Theo Travis playing flute = yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he
=
used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add = a lower octave to his flute. I
want something that reliably turns guitar = notes (especially the lower notes)
into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. = Recommendations?  = (Andy, you will
probably recommend Chopitch - I need some = help using it because more often
than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off = very quickly - not sure what to
do)
 
-Michael
 
 
=
 
=
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= --Apple-Mail-3--935869685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 10:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4AC318345F; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4D74A7FB.9000909@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: Lower octave Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:38:35 +0100 Message-ID: <6DCECBB0D8DF48238861328917FC5B00@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <4D74A7FB.9000909@tiscali.co.uk> Thread-Index: AcvcsuR0ovgfQqPOSKqzaGV/SgddfQAAJ9hw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:38:42 +0000 (UTC) > I never thought the OC2 felt like bass I must say I was surprised at the sound quality of the OC2 when Theo Travis played flute over it. It really sounded like a bass flute, very clean. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 10:40:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30AA5183461; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <63.6F.09940.84B147D4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> <8CDAAC9B3338FEF-EB4-82D5@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> <95F389A7-6B6D-40B1-BC72-3FF6CADBFF72@btinternet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: <95F389A7-6B6D-40B1-BC72-3FF6CADBFF72@btinternet.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDAACB3611EAB5_EB4_125C6_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAACB3603A26F-EB4-83DC@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 05:40:29 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:453562336:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d4d74b61f363c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDAACB3611EAB5_EB4_125C6_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Filter Modeler does glitch but that is part of its charm. Every once in= a while you play something and notice that the FM seems to be ignoring you= r playing completely and coming up with its own sounds on its own. You can = adjust how much original signal is mixed in w/ the sounds and that can help= a lot. PJ -----Original Message----- From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 12:31 am Subject: Re: Lower octave Agreed - its a bugger to control thou :) =20 Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 On 7 Mar 2011, at 10:29, Patrick Bishop wrote: I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. The FM can do= a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, just like the orig= inal. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic possibilities.=20 =20 =20 PJ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: ejyuhas To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm Subject: RE: Lower octave =20 =20 =20 =20 I'm using a Boss OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works g= reat, sometimes sounds unrealistic. =20 =20 =20 You have to dial the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y= , or rather, distorted", instead of sounding like a true bass. =20 =20 =20 But used with an eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to one'= s loops and playing. =20 =20 =20 Edward =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Matt Stevens [mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave =20 =20 =20 =20 I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much better =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Matt Stevens =20 =20 =20 www.mattstevensguitar.com =20 =20 =20 mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote: =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he =20 =20 =20 used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute. I =20 =20 =20 want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes= ) =20 =20 =20 into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? (Andy, you will =20 =20 =20 probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more often =20 =20 =20 than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to =20 =20 =20 do) =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CDAACB3611EAB5_EB4_125C6_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" The Filter Modeler does glitch but that is part of its charm. Eve= ry once in a while you play something and notice that the FM seems to be ig= noring your playing completely and coming up with its own sounds on its own= . You can adjust how much original signal is mixed in w/ the sounds and tha= t can help a lot.

3D":-)"PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 12:31 am
Subject: Re: Lower octave

Agreed - its a bugger to control thou :)


On 7 Mar 2011, at 10:29, Patrick Bishop wrote:

I use my Line 6 Filter Modeler for lower octave synth sounds. The FM can d= o a decent Moog Bass impersonation. The tracking is mono, just like the ori= ginal. It is a great pedal w/ a myriad of sonic possibilities.=20

=20
3D":-)"PJ

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From: ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarq= mail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 1:40 pm
Subject: RE: Lower octave

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I'm using a Bos= s OC-2 for my "guitar as bass" sounds...sometimes it works great, sometimes= sounds unrealistic.
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You have to dia= l the knobs just right, otherwise it really gets "too vibe-y, or rather, di= storted", instead of sounding like a true bass.
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But used with a= n eBow, it really adds some droney depth and low-end to one's loops and pla= ying.
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Edward
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Sent: Sunday, March 06, 201= 1 12:27 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Lower octave
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I use a Whammy Pedal although the POG is much bet= ter
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On 6 Mar 2011, at 17:24, Michael Peters wrote:
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I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in = Antwerp, and saw that he
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used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lo= wer octave to his flute. I
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want something that reliably turns guitar notes (= especially the lower notes)
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into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommenda= tions?  (Andy, you will
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probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help us= ing it because more often
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----------MB_8CDAACB3611EAB5_EB4_125C6_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 10:42:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BC58183479; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 92970.40172.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299494563; bh=tTjMDpF/05WLjtGQiWWIPnEbEAZP91Z3oERwY72uek8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YQZd1Dl0YdG4RImM+wDFtt//NMhAdXClgDznOB2oJ1KHwEy1hj00i1JiWzd582HLO8vG1Qwx6j0I4DGaKrGthbTdfMZRq2FdiEjN6fAX4NeqkbbkXdVLe4uvoM8lCJ0jsZULwj+bYD6aIzh4rcs0XMDU44iYDOR+QlKB1pad4gY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RZkV8fgnKkipsoRj79Y3MYgz2MeKnBpXyOLPs53hm49m537Q4klo9xtC9HNj11GMT/O/QtUaCtSmrO7Z5itpmc4Kz33qXsAIizclNaF1oLAfYJrMNcUNd8HLzmRyrQ9miDQpFMPO9750ml4n2WJZ8mxl0r7VuEcsI11CAcQu7Lg=; Message-ID: <605696.76013.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9sXQqBMVM1mowsDe5VRoGaoxr.Wr.ULy0tVStzAdvojmLrU IpOEByPLjXBGQGvYsk5q53rRDZlnsYKWsf.CRTqI.Nh8Gkzxy6TeKXieuJ.T KBAaxdq83NwQ.cixvLgwjlWuijCVnra26qRRWvuiZCmlghz00XGEVADrC5m6 IN45ar6WKsV5vnH5BR9VFEHve0nZeNArzegsOMqAMPYG.p87P6MIVLlYcNeo AHAPL7AAGAzrjv8V21se3UmFZDNhl1k4gYEe1sbxx3QXoUP7Iu1GYGiptz2i Mi6f5S5PE_vCO0BA1C0O68PqvKegFJI1nldweluFj8XfcirvdbnkMFKz7r2F L8LrCVwpllTLC_1OKqLRDeluNQNMK6skaA0GaKCu2at3TyXnI0SVnVRChd8h .8jD_Z5151tQPVV4e X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:42:43 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Lower octave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <669736.49904.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1240597156-1299494563=:76013" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:42:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1240597156-1299494563=:76013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0Electro Harmonix Hog vs. Eventide Pitchfactor.....interesting=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHSRaUZWiIEM Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --- On Mon, 3/7/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Lower octave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 3:19 AM Eventide are the masters of pitch shifting. They must have a pedal that doe= s this stuff. Antony From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:43 AM Subject: Re: Lower octave =0A Michael Peters wrote: > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that he > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute.= I > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower not= es) > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? The Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer is far superior to the OC2. (cheaper too) Convincingly powerful sound. Excellent tracking. >=A0 (Andy, you will > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more ofte= n > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what to > do) make sure gate control is at zero, ...if no fix, drop me a line andy >=20 > -Michael >=20 >=20 >=20 =0A=0A=0A =0A=0A --0-1240597156-1299494563=:76013 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Electro Harmonix Hog vs. Eventide Pitchfactor.....interesti= ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHSRaUZWiIEM


Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johns= ton, IA  50131         &n= bsp;  

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc
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 http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten  <= /span>     

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From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com <antonyhequet@y= ahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lower octave
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 3:19 AM

<= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I have tw= o different routes that  I use.  One is an Electro-Harmonix Micro= -Synth, which does a suboctave.  More recently, I got a Sonuus GM-2 pi= tch-to-MIDI converter (which is a great little toy for only $100) that I us= e to drive either a Waldorf Blofeld module or a Dave Smith Mopho.  The= re is a bit of latency with the GM-2, but the tracking accuracy is remarkab= ly good.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "van Sin= n" <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2011 12:34:23 PM
Subject: Re: Lower octav= e Micro Pog

Hehe, yup, that's always the problem with pitch transpos= ing, the need to
sample long enough to have enough information to be ab= le to decently
create the new pitch.

I've never heard anything s= ounding sufficienty close to the real, and
will bet the best option wil= l be to accept this, and use whatever pitch
transposer is found reasona= bly suitable for deliberately creating a
somewhat artificial effect.
I think the Eventide PitchFactor comes fairly close to a nicely useful=
downtuning, plus it'll provide many other useful effects.  It's a= pedal
too, and with MIDI to go,so..



andy butler wrote:<= br>> hi Rick,
> yes and no ;-)
>
> It's a true pitch = shifter, but it uses really
> small chunks for it's granular processi= ng.
> (relying on identifying the pitch).
>
> The small = chunks make for a synthetic sound,
> but mean that the POG can get ze= ro latency when shifting down.
>
> Be aware, the pitch up on t= he Micro Pog does have latency (unavoidable
> for upwards pitch shif= t)
> and it's a bit flat in pitch (=3D=3D bend the nots up a bit)
= >
> andy
>
> Rick Walker wrote:
>
>>= I have the Micro Pog (which is awesome) but, from my understanding and >> , certainly from the sound,
>> this instrument generates= a synthetic octave up and octave down and is
>> not a true pitch= shifter.
>>
>> Do I have this right?     It ce= rtainly sounds synthetic but wouldn't
>> sound very organic with = , say,
>> a flute.
>>
>> rick walker


= --
rgds,
van Sinn

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Daryl Shawn is in town, and will be playing his guitar and tape machines to Laurie Amat's vocals. Then my new band Tiny Owl will play. Tiny Owl is what happens when you take experimental improvisers and tell them to play krautrock. It sometimes resembles krautrock, it sometimes doesn't, but it's usually spacey and interesting. Then there will be a short collaborative jam at the end. Tuesday, March 8 =B7 8:00pm Studio 1510 1510 8th Street (Near West Oakland Bart) $6-10 sliding scale 1st: Daryl Shawn (guitar & tape manipulation) & Laurie Amat (voice) & 2nd: Tiny Owl (Matt Davignon & Lance Grabmiller - electronics, Sebastian Krawczuk - double bass, Suki O'Kane - percussion) Daryl Shawn plays classical guitar and manipulates the sounds in real time with multiple cassette machines. Laurie Amat has been called =93The Voice on Everyone=92s Lips=94. She performs a wide range of music including modern chamber and opera works, experimental structured and improvised solo and ensemble works, punk rock and popular song. Did I mention she's worked with the Residents? Oh yeah. She's worked with the Residents. Tiny Owl is a new quartet that creates a special blend of improvised experimental "space music", ambient and instrumental rock. http://tinyowl.bandcamp.com --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 19:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D74B183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--903416051 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Lower octave Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:32:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8621O.A.PJC.CLTdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--903416051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When ever I'm in the mood for some lower octaves I check this out :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLcELU1brA&feature=related Actually i rarely use the octave below setting which is decent on the M-9 and based on the boss so tracking is similar. And I've used the bass octave settings on the Fireworx which have a typical harmonizer's latency which means there is a bit. Don't remember what you are using for looping but if it does any kind of quantize replace, I will create a quantized replace created sequence and then half speed it, or the more challenging way would be to play your part twice as fast as you would want it to sound and then half speed that. On the Looperlative, I have a simple yet effective combination preset that combines replace with track speed, so that when you come out of replace its in the new octave, which can either be an octave lower if you start the replace in normal track speed, or an octave higher if you start the replace while in half speed. Actually believe it or not , I always found the blending of the direct guitar sound with my roland guitar synth set to whatever analog bass patch I could muster (a GR30 wasn't great but it was polyphonic) sounded better than most octavers or harmonizers I have used. Bill --Apple-Mail-1--903416051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When ever I'm in the mood for = some lower octaves  I check this out :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgtLcELU1brA&feature=3Drelated Actually i rarely use the octave below setting which is decent = on the M-9 and based on the boss so tracking is similar. And I've used = the bass octave settings on the Fireworx which have a typical = harmonizer's latency which means there is a bit.  Don't remember = what you are using for looping but if it does any kind of quantize = replace, I will create a quantized replace created sequence and then = half speed it, or the more challenging way would be to play your part = twice as fast as you would want it to sound and then half speed that. On = the Looperlative, I have a simple yet effective combination preset that = combines replace with track speed, so that when you come out of replace = its in the new octave, which can either be an octave lower if you start = the replace in normal track speed, or an octave higher if you start the = replace while in half speed. Actually believe it or not , I always found = the blending of the direct guitar sound with my roland guitar synth set = to whatever  analog bass  patch  I could muster  (a = GR30 wasn't great but it was polyphonic) sounded better than most = octavers or harmonizers I have used.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1--903416051-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:23:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25AA0183457; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j7NDBzD7MTNA/EgpKDBt+F/Spkj3ZGh9Js/rY+YC+mI=; b=fJ2vSxe9w1RaArmt5nhpPs6vP5924foE0x9sZtLn/2DSoYfZpV3A48WIZYA+0weY/y YjgcRtYyjKF78ZjFc9yUHPoSphEqhk/6H3ZsGFHaZ3DqsBJ39nVyB9UIgQ2LtD5AJcqY adYL77XX+Qx8MYO5XOvl23fkmjbet0tyJ4Moo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sw3i+47hoL7JAdkaJXLBjaFUd8iBO+dcTQt64o9Phwl/K4vNtkvghqsixwwjnxGM8g wqjbUl6MaYMixXDMagv7lFl9a7BC6zl8d2VtEzo78YWJiOa0kZEN4sbQ6zPHc2TmF2/h coha428vnJYMXp9/GrAMA20ZosOX5a7YBgBxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:23:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151773e35071d475049debf1cd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:23:21 +0000 (UTC) --00151773e35071d475049debf1cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 :-D a simple google search should be appropriate 2011/3/7 Dustbunnies > On 3/7/11 5:12 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen > > wrote: > >> There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the GUI doesnt > >> remind me of any software I know... > > > > *That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer". > > <*sigh*> > > http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ > > ;) > --m. > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --00151773e35071d475049debf1cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable :-D

a simple google search should be appropriate

2011/3/7 Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net>
On 3/7/11 5:12 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Petri Lahtinen
> <kollegavalmentaja@g= mail.com> wrote:
>> There's some software running on the macbook beside him, the G= UI doesnt
>> remind me of any software I know...
>
> *That* actually is the "Glitch Sequencer".

<*sigh*>

http://www.g= litch-sequencer.com/

;)
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Petri Lahtinen

<= a href=3D"http://www.petrilahtinen.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.petril= ahtinen.com

--00151773e35071d475049debf1cd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:32:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76CD7183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 433227.91138.bm@omp1029.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299537126; bh=C0MNfCkMqHFj8sQvV7rxrJPNe9NxINpTbHieUYBKgHs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XsOEmc+Sz0b6UHgTC66Ouy9p0/TYU4lKfvg0ADaEktCfuVg4AsSjc7uAOlS6MA9ZUyNGyZWFDXiSbRWajC6WQQBgET2cSNS9BT85b0P4EGjVKyujt+xIsuoG/VvJYPt2FcNdq4h593pJRqfG9JpAxAioP4eObGuRBBmFbUOdAIM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AADBZf6MW06iuv91dkypdPzoLIawdnC8r3BVsh31VpuDEzMl4oJn9Nu1uQmy6T95JZe3BhtgYbs6z/aOriP8gUeXGKveoCoR1O9J0O6DJNXUQu7MXIFJqsogKnxtaIST87Ce7w8SwfRhVemSuyuv2iflZp1eiPZmzGxy0YJx7vg=; Message-ID: <620175.2949.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HSyWY6gVM1nwV8Q2LR1c36.cI6x42mVoVXbDp8M3SHSayY9 paxRps.qOqq3wtiyxoCp0n3CWhlRtOJ5NkbqhbjK5JbBEsuMkWrPY3iqF.PQ mu6ikRp7DK_qKTlPNNN2yLk3Wmofmn57_dlRgOHnYwTDzB6N7iL9_m_qC9dw ScIax7bp5Awchpfq0.BS.q6fVV9Cv00nk19Tmb66V8WsoJjjJKZ4mefepF5g BdXhzxRdzPRDGC5yeZS6V65dlwZ0pvbzKyfsnqyLo_eS37bWwG43VR9eCfiI FfakEHw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:32:06 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-232754761-1299537126=:2949" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:32:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-232754761-1299537126=:2949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Per, Thanks, what I was asking was, what is a good starting point to create my own reverbs/delays/effects from scratch, i.e, C code/assembly on a DSP. Thanks, Eric ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 3:21:08 PM Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, E Gross wrote: > Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool. > > I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can you > give a suggestion? Many so called tape delay simulator plugins can do that. Just assign a kick switch or expression pedal to its feedback parameter and trim the values to make the freeze work. After trying many I have settled with the software plugin for this is EchoBoy from SoundToys. There is also the reverb plugin Eos that has an "Infinite" button that you can assign to your foot pedal. But I can't recommend Eos because it gives an audible click noise if going into or out of freeze mode as audio passes through the plugin. Another reason I like EchoBoy better is that it doesn't really freeze audio in the technical sense, it simple keeps a loop at 99 percent feedback and from this comes that the fidelity slowly degrades during "freeze time" and I like that effect a lot. Oh, and of course you have to set up a signal routing to pass by the EchoBoy during its "freeze time". Best wishes --0-232754761-1299537126=:2949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Per,

Thanks, what I was asking was, what is a good starting point to create my own reverbs/delays/effects from scratch, i.e, C code/assembly on a DSP.

Thanks,
Eric

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 3:21:08 PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:52 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks, the FV-1 looks cool.
>
> I am on PC, maybe software-only would be better as a starting point, can you
> give a suggestion?

Many so called tape delay simulator plugins can do that. Just assign a
kick switch or expression pedal to its feedback parameter and trim the
values to make the freeze work. After trying many I have settled with
the software plugin for this is EchoBoy from SoundToys. There is also
the reverb plugin Eos that has an "Infinite" button that you can
assign to your foot pedal. But I can't recommend Eos because it gives
an audible click noise if going into or out of freeze mode as audio
passes through the plugin. Another reason I like EchoBoy better is
that it doesn't really freeze audio in the technical sense, it simple
keeps a loop at 99 percent feedback and from this comes that the
fidelity slowly degrades during "freeze time" and I like that effect a
lot. Oh, and of course you have to set up a signal routing to pass by
the EchoBoy during its "freeze time".

Best wishes


--0-232754761-1299537126=:2949-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:44:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9F6A183463; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D755FBE.5000900@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:44:14 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Lower octave References: <6DCECBB0D8DF48238861328917FC5B00@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <6DCECBB0D8DF48238861328917FC5B00@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> I never thought the OC2 felt like bass > I must say I was surprised at the sound quality of the OC2 when Theo Travis > played flute over it. It really sounded like a bass flute, very clean. > > -Michael I agree with Andy and Michael..........it WILL sound good on things that have closer to a sine wav sound (like a flute) but it really lacks at sounding like a bass guitar when one puts a normal low E string on a regular guitar through it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:49:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD1C183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+ZCYsBCggsYD7Fk01DnpmwXmFi5ozVEnrND/z6oxkwE=; b=rR1U3nr2lvgcV2QerWxPQaLK6M8pvGvHhuKMhIS0SdY5HhwzQsyjo8TD46tcib35Kz 6NvOxRxYD3zk8QrKGBLgSktmB/VQCPRQM56F7GCA4EFjFKQ5uL0tpORwVo4ZJ1uUPjGQ i89VYWG4dttYY7RF9NE+PHj7ZVoIEXfLQMinA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iz/Z1lkvnSi+bjJHomNgah8lN1PX5vkkYo2X8ufoB31rvtiUGOhAaCNW8DpZ8qIWHO LGXRRCfn7Ult74rpBRKuwyZaPLjW0o66ByK5BnXoqdj8gd9sXLDYPP7CWEeCWYGJ4hR6 IoMKIDFIqL5S05O+4JUg+iR0IWsLRulVnHpK8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, im trying to control a demo version of amplitube with the fcb1010 so far i can only turn on an fx doing the midi learn and assigining a control change but i cannot turn it off ive tired different things but still no success this is what ive tired so far: control change 01 value 00-127 ive tried using 2 control changes using the fcbs CC1 sending CC 01 value 0-0 and then CC2 sending 01 value 127-127 however it works when i assign FCB button 1 control change 01 value 00-00 FCB button 2 control change 01 value 127-127 any ideas? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:52:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF42D183464; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D75618F.8060505@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:51:59 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: K D Patten CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lower octave References: <605696.76013.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <605696.76013.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:52:03 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, K D Patten wrote: > Electro Harmonix Hog vs. Eventide Pitchfactor.....interesting Wow, I'm surprised, the Hog completely owns the Eventide for pitch shifting accuracy. They're not even in the same league, timbrally. That's shocking to me. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:53:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4688D183463; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KzblASDS6n5CnSUMAd4Clepp83GCVmvM5xV8C2x37nY=; b=A8jOXjWL3sjHCVcLwviJHdcqO3dh0/efE7Enrak+Q1LsMQHpzMwm3qJcI5+/M8mxo6 EyhbJajy/sqY7n6/aObha55Y8Od78Uf5nTJka2mRwFRvnBg+UQTyHrhNHSm5ICs2LT4U so9qY3gGWjdFVGInU45rHx2VCZ+pOCjdOCpqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EMoj/HMPChC6dquyB929colMB3gVqdkNjGAJIHUkaP5B1naOAk5qVcunwJX3mBNG1K j1XvohAJha4JmcaOYQTBZPMEFvi7IovUVjM+1S9VuqB7UbX/1EUKURANRC2Ge4HvSm9J QP/sZniQFDEQl4rMlKpwlqE0kTY+rCoIP1cqY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <620175.2949.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <620175.2949.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:53:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:53:01 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:32 PM, E Gross wrote: > Thanks, what I was asking was, what is a good starting point to create my > own reverbs/delays/effects from scratch, i.e, C code/assembly on a DSP. Hi Eric, Maybe SynthEdit? It's a shareware Windows application which uses a modular VPL (Visual Programming Language) to create music synthesizers and effects units. http://www.synthedit.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 22:55:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7190F18347C; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pUHhoW+wBJ3UVY/HdElkYb596lvDujsMKWLIIEHC1Os=; b=E/rGieSWNaBH5XKs4TBvRf6MAlpSSJ8i5u0J1t1gHSoveR2t6Yl3JrOKj51yE3YdvQ Ghz/qyutzQGaAU1/WeyVzdhuxrwmB+jKoDH47CE8Yhdnr39YJuDRDUSf3HDSTnNen6+S agW2pklTTNEmXEK7dikdh1vXaoUF0SSot1Sfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rNRwB1wABMwR9p/xBwCDH3h4msJNNh9VqUTNxDMxgC8PVOxLFGF5sw/IX0K7C9a3m4 0QYQEl9Ks4jZEpJzb7zDJ0ZYw7HOTRURoKrTLkjDMfER/9bap/30KasPDWEBLQ+DZSde PA1ts9TnN1Ls1k3w42M8wRvQGbxyMfJB1gt5s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:55:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Make sure you're doing that MIDI Learn etc in the Amplitube plugin/applicaton and not in a host application. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > im trying to control a demo version of amplitube with the fcb1010 > so far i can only turn on an fx doing the midi learn and assigining a > control change but i cannot turn it off > ive tired different things but still no success > this is what ive tired so far: > control change 01 value 00-127 > ive tried using 2 control changes using the fcbs CC1 sending CC 01 > value 0-0 and then CC2 sending 01 value 127-127 > however it works when i assign > FCB button 1 control change 01 value 00-00 > FCB button 2 control change 01 value 127-127 > any ideas? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:01:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBF2E183459; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BsclpsbM+sNqy0cULRPx0JjrHp13pTHUXteku2T1PvY=; b=i1hhsnOr457iWqRhLCq2MfUzU0b7tx8w2PNZuwAwGuEiMRat9JmGCVW/oEHtGQymAl KSQFHI/ARsRn3FylP/D4pz9AK/dG+qPEQoJcBRXXVAKNue2ZpMe4W2ULgZs0RSs3he5u eMfIcf5cRFviHs5sGpyfPiHkIHSrw8MQoeW1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P90C+OLYpknmBW4nwRFsgnmtmFPs58fxtxQaqaG5qMqKnIkurXDshNTpwZaM3HBfKb fTsE2He/LnuXiDLvXtBffcnJ3QGt48hx6Snj9BrpMy/UE2HcFxydsfESYE1oRuY+p8UV R7kHb6jYV50jJ47xDjDFw8ai363T1ouXjl9tA= Message-ID: <4D75634F.9000104@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:59:27 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Am 07.03.2011 23:49, schrieb Louie Angulo: > Hi gang, > im trying to control a demo version of amplitube with the fcb1010 > so far i can only turn on an fx doing the midi learn and assigining a > control change but i cannot turn it off > > any ideas? Don't know about Amplitube that much (had used an old version within Live and controlled that w/ a FCB1010 and that worked fine, but I believe I implemented that toggle thing via Live), but here's two things to check: a) for the toggle functionality, both CCs must be set to the same MIDI channel (in global settings) b) in your description, you always name a range (e.g. 0-0, 127-127) for your controllers. Are you sure you didn't program the expression pedals accidentally? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:06:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48D418348F; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQIAB/0dE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYT44IvymFYgSFHIpX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,279,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="107685018" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D75618F.8060505@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Lower octave Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:09:31 -0600 References: <605696.76013.qm@web112118.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4D75618F.8060505@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:06:09 +0000 (UTC) > Wow, I'm surprised, the Hog completely owns the Eventide for pitch > shifting > accuracy. I'm pretty sure you have to use a different setting/algorithm than the reviewer used for the Eventide to handle chords. Some of the algorithms handle single note lines/harmonies, and others handle chords much better. That said, the Hog may still win the shoot out. But my hunch is that the Eventide could have fared better. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:53:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B1E8183460; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H7Zb0Bd4bZgIih09yYRTyQC8RscqE+Vmc9Os0fSsZ/I=; b=JKSUxOs0eAK6N8mvQKmQ5KJOuAE10Yr7PhOgMdHdKTibOi+AnhhbOl06jXKpDqSqsI 3UvKcwEY5y2KgdQcCKEXadDJLTPaQeT7G0FgLPOaze6/ozGz+zXmQuEJjDqKJNdNLKG0 WYE9XeVYxECpZ5z8lrBDPIEmQcqfnD6754OpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ncsos1Bb1hRFYZ1IvzfH0PZcG2XnUfKIYyp4A5Yj32WCZMZsyUJrIfG1neNpAcAmdB mnh+6CVvKP7hzQxsFj6caFg7t+nblTZBZ3P3SYgfuqiYeUKuD8DwhAupJl9KSFoH5I67 9HjW7/+bS37yHXeHH5NiDBLyW9EL4/knIeks0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:53:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, All pre-orders of the limited edition deluxe CD of =93The Sense of Time=94 have been shipped today. In case you didn't know, this is an album existing of 99% live looping, 2-track stereo, live studio recordings with additional post-production done by Markus Reuter. PS The free worldwide shipping period will be extended till the end of the month. For more information, please check the website. Thanks! --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:54:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 555B0183465; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aUvLT/ExgPb9ySVs+UHwu4TBKOZbjvKDRbf8otrwfSQ=; b=NGEDpZm1ueKIFXE78bg+jLOpvJjgRTJm/7AuA5vwTZfyx7fgijdrfhYZE9/cD6ZIgg b4K7FafTN5BYr58GecayklCHTXGOuMJZnmKVGb9Es49h6GGPOoEnxSrmCmKu3nI3oCzv D2XZtTckvVufBvVukAuCRfqk01RKco7xxdoIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nZbzxPoJfxIu0i3HS9kaA6exuew/k/UzekD1w6m791oxyvOfQpFC9nh4Jx7leMYWH2 JI0VZ1gNAAXg2v8g4i6/2SvgUOctu1nf+MMk4zMg+6mX/dUYYRc61peUX5O48Vp1p6b4 M0BkjteIjdDNUA7AJBiwn+NZtPP58wyelV63k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:54:09 +0000 (UTC) i forgot to mention in the plugin app wont even work! is it because is a demo version perhaps? On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Make sure you're doing that MIDI Learn etc in the Amplitube > plugin/applicaton and not in a host application. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hi gang, >> im trying to control a demo version of amplitube with the fcb1010 >> so far i can only turn on an fx doing the midi learn and assigining a >> control change but i cannot turn it off >> ive tired different things but still no success >> this is what ive tired so far: >> control change 01 value 00-127 >> ive tried using 2 control changes using the fcbs CC1 sending CC 01 >> value 0-0 and then CC2 sending 01 value 127-127 >> however it works when i assign >> FCB button 1 control change 01 value 00-00 >> FCB button 2 control change 01 value 127-127 >> any ideas? >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:57:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118C4183479; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e8sbQVN/4mEwV7DevqkIofS3nBTt1w9l5ZQAYZbgQTE=; b=XaVQWS0alX4GOTVQAWUFeOauTJNmYNMNQhUejKsVDmFW5jGNpZHprp6N6qXfHSHhIG 2X4P7DwFqZM2zrIdscmXHIEEl+e4MoLqRad3JfQTAZXqrKNafe9O4JNPFmLAgHvLGXcs 52j8O3eYSBkwPwhOZAK0H6oamx8mQnRGkb8wY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YU0Q/W/BxmE6mevTg0SxrHxkApGJgoptkkB+PoaYfOiZx9xkWgg2w5HVqieVfVxF/7 zVeosHYTZNmRKutbuEh5p7HOcf+OLV1FaRWEv2f62c7D/6lpYOLw/ELH4wEn7X3kDz8v 25a7PBwCedn7jomAwDMu7cavGD+TCnw5fehcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D75634F.9000104@googlemail.com> References: <4D75634F.9000104@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:57:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:57:03 +0000 (UTC) yes Rainer,both Control change functions are globally set to channel one on the fcb1010 no,i m programing only the Control changes and not the continuous controllers yet... > a) for the toggle functionality, both CCs must be set to the same MIDI > channel (in global settings) > b) in your description, you always name a range (e.g. 0-0, 127-127) for y= our > controllers. Are you sure you didn't program the expression pedals > accidentally? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 7 23:57:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C87C1183487; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 14200 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:57:26 UTC Message-ID: From: "boost" To: References: Subject: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:53:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110307-0, 07/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 4014114644821393074 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.500015/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! a question for Vortex and EDP owners: did one of you tried this : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm i tried but didn't manage to make it work... thanks boost From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:00:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B76B1183492; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yh2rscyCgzM8Nzh+a+Qonm/tdUSzJcusgvDg0FjIb2s=; b=EReGnl+EKATdgLdKXQBsBS2hbwUuqz66tvM4YG89vQu/ULz0ov6yLHhCpskw6BfjWD qgcqoS5ljcPFPoyVHMNkU2J9pBDFcDOeF1mOsUyOYpsBeZX5U5ruCwa5JlDNLzgHYQ7+ wW+t5VqvYTPokSGAFCa+h0y8F+VO13POZzneI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=wBcdhpkySNwu5M65OLvfNbZK4NOQ0NmycCPSLmiSWzieLxYv2CuAp09Diq/wL7eou4 0uqdsCbgWdGWSgOihf2B9Q+fHzJ5dfDary+okIpGb0j1cflNq571bOBq0ejIeqPEILc9 ssJzlzo2RYXStpBGIt8GTef4o6H7uvtfPaqqk= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:59:19 +0100 Message-ID: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6o9OCD.A.P_H.OGXdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: > Hi ! > a question for Vortex and EDP owners: > did one of you tried this : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm > i tried but didn't manage to make it work... > thanks > boost > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:13:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC04183498; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:12:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Shirkey CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lower octave References: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> In-Reply-To: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:13:00 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: >> I'm pretty sure you have to use a different setting/algorithm than >> the reviewer used for the Eventide to handle chords. Some of the >> algorithms handle single note lines/harmonies, and others handle >> chords much better. > That said, the Hog may still win the shoot out. But my hunch is that > the Eventide could have fared better. > Yeah, that makes sense, Jeff, but what really impressed me in the comparison was the single note harmonization and in particular, the bass settings. The tracking seemed a lot better, the sound was much more natural. To my ear, chordal harmonizations always seem to dense unless there are very few elements in a mix The Micro Pog which I own (and like) handles chords pretty darn well but it's just too thick of a sound once you begin adding other instruments to the mix. Am I the only one here with this feeling? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:14:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 243A41834A4; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7574DF.2090103@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:14:23 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Way OT: Funny Ad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:14:28 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I just saw this on the side of my Google browser and it made me chuckle > > Adrenalinn III: Get the unique guitar sounds of John Mayer, Green Day > & other Pros! To bad they didn't name check Justin Bieber. I would most certainly have bought one. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:14:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76C031834AE; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFsDdU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACmV79NhWIEhRyKVw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,280,1297036800"; d="scan'208,217";a="54534786" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Rick Walker In-Reply-To: <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--886255134 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Lower octave Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:18:11 -0600 References: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--886255134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > > Yeah, that makes sense, Jeff, but what really impressed me in the > comparison was the single note > harmonization and in particular, the bass settings. The tracking > seemed a lot better, the sound was much more > natural. I agree with you completely. I wonder if the boys at Eventide have seen that video? Jeff --Apple-Mail-4--886255134 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Yeah, that makes sense, Jeff,  but what really impressed me in the comparison was the single note
harmonization and in particular, the bass settings.    The tracking seemed a lot better, the sound was much more
natural.


I agree with you completely. I wonder if the boys at Eventide have seen that video? 

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-4--886255134-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:20:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466561834BC; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=+1cf3TMoCrHr9r6frteVr/dBy12iXAQk76zhzyX5lYA=; b=RnSv/adEF2ImKgVwTBJJ1b4YQWFRjWLWwswWDzaYJq+JouPrvu6P4pPqyypzH+aXh8 RwBALoFv86rZBfXWDV5e8SpnfRzQSQIpx83e2+MH9e6TPyNkoXlTEoDQOBm5hVliEMig ds3B3CEUc+NTq+wxtJ2Tv93TTExBqf+l0nBvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=dnbcn7lDHuK8QbnfH/m657HCdGAumvvA7HYHOuMcVF5e0CbetA+ZawdLOuETArI+Da 1+EQeL7v++0l4nJqLHI3g4govymzHpXR4BfWoYmmDUbXpMvVECoxf+H9/UuMXeNeLCmC omInW1AiNqIoCK9rcXxlrTOE1DwDn335YWugc= Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <1032D458CA1444CE92A66DA306E59E14@mpeserver> <4D74A23F.3090409@tiscali.co.uk> <669736.49904.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--886131603 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <669736.49904.qm@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <4500BD68-97D8-4B75-B2E1-ECDA2C2901D4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:20:08 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:20:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14--886131603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's what I use, a pitchfactor. Love it.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:19 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > Eventide are the masters of pitch shifting. They must have a pedal that do= es this stuff. >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: andy butler > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:43 AM > Subject: Re: Lower octave >=20 >=20 >=20 > Michael Peters wrote: > > I watched Theo Travis playing flute yesterday in Antwerp, and saw that h= e > > used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occasionally add a lower octave to his flute= . I > > want something that reliably turns guitar notes (especially the lower no= tes) > > into a bass - a pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations? >=20 > The Electro Harmonix Octave Multiplexer is far > superior to the OC2. > (cheaper too) >=20 > Convincingly powerful sound. > Excellent tracking. >=20 > > (Andy, you will > > probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more oft= en > > than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not sure what t= o > > do) >=20 > make sure gate control is at zero, > ...if no fix, drop me a line >=20 > andy >=20 > >=20 > > -Michael > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-14--886131603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
That's what I use, a pitchfactor. Love i= t. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:19 AM= , antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote= :

Eventide are the ma= sters of pitch shifting. They must have a pedal that does this stuff.
<= div>
Antony

= From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:15:43 AM
Subject: Re: Lower octave



Michael Peters wrote:
> I watched Theo Travis playing flute ye= sterday in Antwerp, and saw that he
> used a Boss OC-2 octaver to occa= sionally add a lower octave to his flute. I
> want something that reli= ably turns guitar notes (especially the lower notes)
> into a bass - a= pedal and/or a plugin. Recommendations?

The Electro Harmonix Octave M= ultiplexer is far
superior to the OC2.
(cheaper too)

Convincing= ly powerful sound.
Excellent tracking.

>  (Andy, you will<= br>> probably recommend Chopitch - I need some help using it because more= often
> than not, the Chopitch sound gets cut off very quickly - not s= ure what to
> do)

make sure gate control is at zero,
...if n= o fix, drop me a line

andy

>
> -Michael
>
= >
>


= --Apple-Mail-14--886131603-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 00:30:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BE0B1834C3; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_365bac30-1eab-440d-ab98-15296b10fd91_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: Per & Erdum in "Signal to Noise" Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:30:21 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2011 00:30:21.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[024ECC60:01CBDD28] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:30:22 +0000 (UTC) --_365bac30-1eab-440d-ab98-15296b10fd91_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI Not sure if this was mentioned but there is very positive review of Per & E= rdum's new release in Signal To Noise mag Good going=2C guys! J.D.Devros deafrose58 = --_365bac30-1eab-440d-ab98-15296b10fd91_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI
Not sure if this was mentioned but there is very positive review of Per &am= p=3B Erdum's new release in Signal To Noise mag
Good going=2C guys!
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
= --_365bac30-1eab-440d-ab98-15296b10fd91_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 04:58:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 533EF18345F; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:45:21 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with Wisterax, Lowell MA 3.12 and gallery show in Monson Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Experimental Film Discussion List Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <1AfLAB.A.W7F.-dbdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite perfomance space) on Saturday. I'll be working with Wisteriax, Karen Langlie's solo cello and electronics project. My last show with Wisteriax was pretty magical, see and hear an excerpt at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYizcmwc974 Karen and I are on at 9:15. opening will be Mark Bisson (Guitar) and Mike Fuaiole (Electronics) BiRdOrGaN project at 8:30 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:00 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. I also have some video work at a wonderful art show in Monson MA (small town venue, big city quality). This show has a reception on Saturday afternoon. http://www.monsonartscouncil.com/shows.asp -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 06:17:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 925E5183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GNoexIJw2p9VF01XCMt+yk4kjw5ka6091n+iMnPpTr0=; b=l18n0Ded8VoyC1HMJeEs2KbIh1dNzFPuhpzRcnsdLa5Mm7L/f5HX3OETMqpPIPESe4 sHyCJE8dxG2sO4vbYKrudD1qVN2VTFZq2VL0G+9IJ+4HsQqIpzUu+RC8vSE/mbiQlO4q URDEtqy8d6p5Osb2oYGZlxJMgnmr9iKWlAyR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GeWp7ILjbcYcBHgjcociXOvr4FdZWoMR/WoQ5GQBdTfTsf0tPtfLVWM/UBLPal9VCY //DX1GDNzaFwdKyzdTnTNVZzKuJORYrKbnIe1ot4BaHxnBXfZcdqcRR4s7/CeJLEHT/d 6F+Hu2Y8AKZI0iz96GITI6r+Vfom7L4L+Hu4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:17:46 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a quick review From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Got my Electro Harmonix Freeze today. Here are some observations: The pedal is small - about 2" across x 4" long. It's only slightly larger than its wall wart. Yup - the power source is another wall wart. Some day somebody will think to move the transformer 6" up the cable instead of at the plug, but until then we can still live like it's frickin 1985. Also the switch is one of those loud metal clickers, like on the DL-4. It's easily operated by either hands or feet. Now on to the pedal itself. It has 3 modes. In both "Fast" and "Slow" mode, the pedal engages only while you're holding the switch. It picks up whatever sound it hears AT THE MOMENT YOU FIRST PRESS THE SWITCH and makes a drone out of it. The only difference between fast and slow is what happens when you let go. (Letting go turns the pedal off.) With fast, the drone instantly ends. With slow, it takes about a half second to fade out. The most useful mode is probably "latch". In that mode, the drone continues after you let go of the switch. If you hit the switch again, it grabs another drone. To turn the pedal off in this mode, double tap. None of the modes keep a memory. Once a drone is not playing, it's lost. There is an effect level knob that lets you control the drone volume level. Now, on to sound quality. With smooth sounds such as a guitar or my "boop" drum machine sound, it sounds close. With something like speech or typical drum machine sounds, it sounds just a tad murkier, as if there's a bit of reverb thrown in. I can't quite get a bead on what interval the loop is at. It does surprisingly well with very short sounds, but with longer sounds you'll hear a certain ebb and flow, almost as if it's playing a 1 second sample forward and reverse. At one point, I swore I heard different harmonics looping at different time intervals. So yeah - I'm impressed that I don't instantly get how it works. Lastly, if there's a lot going on when you turn on the effect (such as when I'm quickly mashing lots of drum machine keys), it will make a brief coughing sound when you hit the switch, but the cough will not be part of the drone. Seriously - it sounds like a cough. Overall, I'm happy I got it - it will be a useful effect for my rig and in general recording, where I'm often trying to make tonal sounds out of non-tonal sounds. I'll be using it at the Tiny Owl concert tomorrow (tuesday) night. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 07:17:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3015D183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5D06CF53-CA7F-4A46-9600-5C0D6BD90F4B@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:17:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Neat little looper on the Time Factor, not much time but several different track speeds and correct me if I'm wrong, the looper does seem to respond well to incoming midi sync, as well as stop and start. also I like that it offers the option to replace or overdub with either latched or unlatched button response. In addition to hooking up an EV-5 pedal for expression and morphing duties, I have also added a three button aux switch, an old digitech FS300 that is compatible and can be used to assign 3 extra functions in either delay or loop mode. this is where the fun begins. I have programmed a ducking delay function with a twist similar to what Per was describing doing with the Fireworx a while back. My ducking delay patch is set to a very high threshold so that as long as I sustain notes, very little of the delay is heard, but the moment i rest or if i play staccato or muted i can hear the delay bloom. What is interesting is that within this ducking delay patch I assigned an aux switch to toggle between 0% feedback and %110 percent feedback so that if I want to, anytime I stop playing for any length of time the delay will begin to slowly self oscillate and grow louder until I begin playing again and the delay is again ducked and not heard. (one has to be careful not to leave it in this mode and leave the room as it does have the capability of self oscillating in to severe speaker damage). In addition to this I can at any time hit the hold function as well to create a none oscillating infinite loop repeat. I like that the hold feature is available on all of the different delay types and the timefactor's delays respond to my Looperlatives incoming midi clock very well, syncing up flawlessly, and responding to track speed changes quickly. I will post some examples when I get some free time Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 08:31:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041F4183477; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UmZBrJ05XnsbvAjhlXObnqDJDUBPRXMaOvXLXY2OeQc=; b=XT6+Z/Af51TlRgWb3qtzm2s/cafu5n9NyLXxhCfUGWH4zXb1YYYjDjn7rw5YmYDiY9 Fk3Zj4krCMLqp+tBEIe5JRk4ZLvRH3zf63Dnh2+e32U1zsggt4uc7imPydos+WbDOJv6 +vc8HqUODNUF7IgF+uj10jqKnUJ4EosW3HyQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NkV8+YYOLg5v1j5tdQDdlKgnNd59DUr8wxYtB0ffEWwk8abdojYmU5gSi8s316/d17 40v9dTQEPRxwSeFBQJRPPj1NCHeJePrF+vTHvGpCetjhp6qkPasg/IRIHeiWCfZozdmQ zTdQOCqk6fI17su644SuGn+SW39QL3ZRHYtiM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:31:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:31:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i forgot to mention in the plugin app wont even work! > is it because is a demo version perhaps? Sorry, I can't tell because I don't have the demo version. But the full version works very well with external MIDI control. INside the plugin there are a bunch of available "preset slots" that you have to set up what plugin parameter each slot will handle. Then the slot number are what turn up in the host app's control system. The set up page is reached by opening the Ampltube 3 plugin GUI and clicking the button mareked "AUTO" at the lower right side. If instead you click "MIDI" there, you may perform MIDI learn inside the plugin - but that only works if you have set up the host to submit your external MIDI input into the plugin. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 09:19:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98327183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 589958787/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.184.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.184.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBAF6DdU1V0rip/2dsb2JhbAAMmEbNJoViBI9s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,283,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="589958787" Message-ID: <4D75F4A5.6020209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:19:33 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: <4D6F42EA.6080107@cruzio.com> <4D6FC589.1030908@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FE0AB.6090605@tiscali.co.uk> <4D6FF4A9.8000500@tiscali.co.uk> <4D70FCE9.2080409@tiscali.co.uk> <782940.39901.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <603646.66640.qm@web45901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <620175.2949.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <620175.2949.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:19:36 +0000 (UTC) did you check out the Soundart Chameleon? http://www.chameleon.synth.net/english/index.shtml ask me off list if you are andy E Gross wrote: > Hi Per, > > Thanks, what I was asking was, what is a good starting point to create > my own reverbs/delays/effects from scratch, i.e, C code/assembly on a DSP. > > Thanks, > Eric > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 10:04:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3A7183461; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 589983381/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.184.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.184.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBAN+NdU1V0rip/2dsb2JhbAAMmEbNIYViBI9s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,283,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="589983381" Message-ID: <4D75FF37.400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:04:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lower octave References: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > To my ear, chordal harmonizations always seem to dense unless there are > very few elements in a mix > The Micro Pog which I own (and like) handles chords pretty darn well but > it's just too thick of a sound once > you begin adding other instruments to the mix. > > Am I the only one here with this feeling? I'm with you on that one Rick. For me it's all about setting up a musical space, and then inhabiting it. In particular, Guitar is an instrument designed to "fill up" musical space, ... I try to be careful. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 11:45:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2D38183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CDO6L1FlNRsI6SvoYkz3CNRxVYRlGiJHM3fL9urSpkA=; b=NaQiJsou9/NAyY0WNh+AyeTczfucsoH4VyAztTyVN1LKgO3Nnc8YEFm3pr5KgtXzgv OpTSXFuLS4ZlWNik2W6Lpbniw78sHMcup9Ts1gA2hlMKppyDrBHoIzmHKqHaXIFZmiIS sd0mj4qiX91+HIUzdWkagkyGnmie9Z5Lv8ll4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P3yzyiv9K16F7i19pOAjHQgrTVLivFBFD+T4PE54XZ8W74CG6UawoWhrcJPpBzTZxO jP+1cjPbBrxXj66GwUe7EvZjGY9qNKSOPLH8fU4ZTAVJnMLFMbRg0shNYVLylJkVBswR ikZZi2A3QXys6nW8VZYv6InRyjI3w3MsAFKw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D75FF37.400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> <4D75FF37.400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:45:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lower octave From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:45:37 +0000 (UTC) > Rick Walker wrote: > >> To my ear, chordal harmonizations always seem to dense unless there are >> very few elements in a mix >> The Micro Pog which I own (and like) handles chords pretty darn well but >> it's just too thick of a sound once >> you begin adding other instruments to the mix. >> >> Am I the only one here with this feeling? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:04 AM, andy butler wrote: > I'm with you on that one Rick. > > For me it's all about setting up a musical space, > and then inhabiting it. > > In particular, Guitar is an instrument designed to > "fill up" musical space, ... I try to be carefu Great posts! When I use chordal harmonization with live looping I restrict the "chords" to simply root note and fifth. This is to leave open the decision of whether it should be major or minor, I often put my improvised lead melody line to pass by those "major-vs-minor" notes when playing over my chord harmonizaton. For a live band that play songs I do differently though, triggering full pre prepared brass section chords from single notes I play. But that's OT here. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 12:12:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B174A183463; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Lh1lAFIoXB8QiZqyFP3GTSW9er7bqwNDyTsn1I9pjUI=; b=P7ucL2ewvVzSuiWAtz0dUjUCfewaAU0vOq1S55PxapwR2C0uPnfTGrsBIBKUNja/E1 Y37Vxg7gJh8CnHRwtp6qeYx6wcmaOlOC+XsQJ22Qt+y6HCk/LWpjhGlYiHqHz/o3RkzI G++UK8VNgZUM7GFO1PUbk01M0lrle7jNMkNNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=JGtFBe9uHNNei7VTTCgp6OEq1YgjXXvF52949cBv4DTdweK+KwrtEU45xjmJnbZ4cE lWjW3ovMR5EocthML79F/8WTBirsRhMrCpNl541zD8cNiOGvbplCo6e5IVq+yLD6wmSh 3F6x9A+T9QeQVPf0YyvO4S8PQrRp6xqnytToQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <2BB2B100-BEDB-4808-9F84-2E7B6CA25ED4@frontier.com> <4D757487.7030703@cruzio.com> <4D75FF37.400@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:12:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3skihaXYTECFRxYfRVHCLaKkcyo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lower octave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30427194c66695049df7873e Resent-Message-ID: <91H02D.A.IcG.A1hdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:12:48 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30427194c66695049df7873e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Great posts! When I use chordal harmonization with live looping I > restrict the "chords" to simply root note and fifth. > > Per Boysen > I agree very interesting thread. Iv always loved pitch shifters, and never worried that they sounded "different" to the guitar. Apart from "special" Fireworx patchs (feedback harmonising thingys) I just use 2 different Boss pedals. The Boss PS 5, has intelligent pitch shifting and I use almost like an instrument, hand winding the pitch control as it goes thru its scale (or set to intelligent 5ths). This goes INTO the Boss PS2 (also a delay) This is always set to the 2 pitch setting, where I have one octave up and one octave down. I always have both boxes mixed 50% with normal guitar. Interestingly the PS2 NEVER glitches, even if it is infact recieving 2 notes from the PS 5. (The original note and the pitched note) It maybe that its easier for it to generate octaves of the input? The nice thing about this setup is that both pedals work together and by playing simple lines on the guitar and turning both pedals on and off as you play. you can get multiple chord structures and tones, without that "pitched" feeling. The worst thing you can do with pitch shifters is "leave them on"... then you just sound like The Residents or Jon Hassel (not too bad I know)...but play them like they are a part of your melody and they are magical. -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf30427194c66695049df7873e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Great posts! When I use chordal harmonization with live looping I
restrict the "chords" to simply root note and fifth.

Per Boysen

I agree very interesting thread.= Iv always loved pitch shifters, and never worried that they sounded "= different" to the guitar.

Apart from "special" Firew= orx patchs (feedback harmonising thingys) I just use 2 different Boss pedal= s.

The Boss PS 5, has intelligent pitch shifting and I use almost like an = instrument, hand winding the pitch control as it goes thru its scale (or se= t to intelligent 5ths). This goes INTO the Boss PS2 (also a delay) This is = always set to the 2 pitch setting, where I have one octave up and one octav= e down. I always have both boxes mixed 50% with normal guitar. Interestingl= y the PS2 NEVER glitches, even if it is infact recieving 2 notes from the P= S 5. (The original note and the pitched note) It maybe that its easier for = it to generate octaves of the input?

The nice thing about this setup is that both pedals work together and b= y playing simple lines on the guitar and turning both pedals on and off as = you play. you can get multiple chord structures and tones, without that &qu= ot;pitched" feeling.

The worst thing you can do with pitch shifters is "leave them on&q= uot;... then you just sound like The Residents or Jon Hassel (not too bad I= know)...but play them like they are a part of your melody and they are mag= ical.


--
Mark Franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf30427194c66695049df7873e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 14:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1662183463; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=36R7UkCnpczScjAxmm3O3EphKuC1n/o44UDr92ckyvI=; b=Drs0p3A6ERY2Awwsrqs67WrsxDR7cMU4dXaWShuw1pw+F895neEwKeh9dQHI8tRpRH CPBoriJYvvuyIKHFQFPbCiCnyrOLbgthZl1T8HTk9OGfhts4HHd1ZG1eatqM3p2IqdO9 6TF87EsLrFQvtwDLPhkyn6xY1fgvnPdY7sRe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QyOEW0q+jyjOiNsXcnwkHm7ghLSG9dQJBIG7E1SUK2p9IEtdO19t4idyVjrGjg+hOT N5GJLmfkDbw8GN6lRCNQQZ6RoJPCReVN/RwPOWA17wx/oxHw+L4t0WlEGejn4Yzaawkh Him07RTUtkafWWFF7SmM9zbg6Cd+Azr9IJ0R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:29:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:29:43 +0000 (UTC) ok Per i got the FCB1010 sorted out,i had to set up each preset to the "toggle" function on the FCB1010,now i can turn fx on and off no problem. If instead you click > "MIDI" there, you may perform MIDI learn inside the plugin - but that > only works if you have set up the host to submit your external MIDI > input into the plugin The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- my RME as the input port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 14:43:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A20C9183473; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kQydfPFz1MQnuAXhrXCCdk+Mqm9NZ2kvQARGfHHUd08=; b=mGRG5STVKbgIhRNgkMUYZzJEa8OShUW/vBVpukj8CmKlisutA/9eirUj9WEimDDmYs /zUuMBSuVw7oX57Hc0wm0yafREsT8yv/WNSbHAOQSe4lRMbUz5baNYx9w4ESfrJmLwx7 E06LOn/RnTKWwpvFmtP5mA+1ZkDADqQ4/nQgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eW35b976MNrZsGxvjtDuXUS8+zFx1LuIoZAIjAXQalyfx8nw/tkgmPG7IavcmJYGW1 bYiyyHVKlRmpXaR43zx6/l3vGuCD0UykBksvp6IJAjeVORVe4xdQq+pS4oEQ74Nbu0LB 9XQniIt6bm2nH2L71MDZwhFWARaVaEhcVMRro= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:43:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup > the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? > In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- =C2=A0my RME as the input You shouldn't select the RME MIDI In port a "Input for Control Surface" unless you own and really want to use a natively supported control surface. Better leave all slots empty in that upper section. > do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? No. That would no be possible anyway, as the FCB1010 is not supported for native control. > port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? *TRACK* is what matters in this case. Make sure the RME is "On" in the Track column (lower region of GUI). (related: *Remote* should be active if you want to MIDI Learn directly in Live from the RME Port. *Sync" should be active if you want to send or receive a sync signal. Ok, so far Live pref's. No go to the Session View in your session and create an extra MIDI Track. Set that MIDI Track's input to fetch MIDI from the RME port and set that track's output to shuffle that MIDI to the track where the Amplitube 3 plugin is inserted and also targeted directly into the plugin. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 16:13:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAC67183462; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BAxuccJPyrwLlsZKpUofVpve3fVHuh3JoTxGz0ePBe0=; b=PGQpXIqLTSHMFqHnnuzA1qpKfV8LwVt/W/MEFl4H4wUvfOFoDXOHrRGPvHfv8u/KK4 qNDtvh9ApkhzcAQX+OAZ7YftdzBj1gLSM8eSdYvraa7HZVunPXV5ewq/IaVzVwGkubdz l87jm2A02zOFEoVbrj4458gN3LYkXzBi/+SX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NO9xv/8O8eS+GEk2/szmZBGmeL6a9iZHl9GCJGumwW79ctox/inCSiNjd12EqT2Apj DvgcL1TLqGhAUqRmIJtfSH9EZd/K7t6Zhlh7el5G3+XvNz9YpjUXi8zH1T8y2T6mdc99 KPcjN98mj0erLYaHk2XDAR8fX97iqM34c6qP4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:13:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: re:Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab06b74b751049dfae376 Resent-Message-ID: <0E4hGC.A.hWE.rWldNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:13:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab06b74b751049dfae376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Bill-thanks for this info. Now i want one of these things (and of course missing the individual who had the timefactor for $250 just kills me, b/c i actually had the money at that time! classic snooze u lose!). and i just bought a tc electronics flashback delay! i think the looper is 10 sec-which for me is plenty of time, since i generally use short delay loops as of late. if you could post some demos/youtube clips/whatever that would be great. i think i've seen one youtube demo w/ someone using the looper. i think the person set up sort of a "pretty sounding" drone, which i did think was cool. i'm excited to try out the flashback and see what it's 7 sec of delay time will be like (although i still like my digitech dl8 & the 8 sec it has). the reports i've heard from people have been good. i thought it looked cool when i saw it. i also just purchased a digitech rp355--it has the 20 sec looper built in (like everything nowadays). i may read the manual to see how it works. ha. but i was wanting some new digital model options....& to update a bit new since i have all the old stuff (rp150 & zooms g2). s--- Neat little looper on the Time Factor, not much time but several different track speeds and correct me if I'm wrong, the looper does seem to respond well to incoming midi sync, as well as stop and start. also I like that it offers the option to replace or overdub with either latched or unlatched button response. In addition to hooking up an EV-5 pedal for expression and morphing duties, I have also added a three button aux switch, an old digitech FS300 that is compatible and can be used to assign 3 extra functions in either delay or loop mode. this is where the fun begins. I have programmed a ducking delay function with a twist similar to what Per was describing doing with the Fireworx a while back. My ducking delay patch is set to a very high threshold so that as long as I sustain notes, very little of the delay is heard, but the moment i rest or if i play staccato or muted i can hear the delay bloom. What is interesting is that within this ducking delay patch I assigned an aux switch to toggle between 0% feedback and %110 percent feedback so that if I want to, anytime I stop playing for any length of time the delay will begin to slowly self oscillate and grow louder until I begin playing again and the delay is again ducked and not heard. (one has to be careful not to leave it in this mode and leave the room as it does have the capability of self oscillating in to severe speaker damage). In addition to this I can at any time hit the hold function as well to create a none oscillating infinite loop repeat. I like that the hold feature is available on all of the different delay types and the timefactor's delays respond to my Looperlatives incoming midi clock very well, syncing up flawlessly, and responding to track speed changes quickly. I will post some examples when I get some free time Bill --0016e6dab06b74b751049dfae376 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Bill-thanks for this info. Now i want one of these things (and of cour= se missing the individual who had
the timefactor for $250 just kills me,= b/c i actually had the money at that time! classic snooze u lose!). and i just bought a tc electronics flashback delay!
i think the looper is 10= sec-which for me is plenty of time, since i generally use short delay loop= s as of late.
if you could post some demos/youtube clips/whatever that w= ould be great. i think i've seen one youtube demo
w/ someone using the looper. i think the person set up sort of a "pret= ty sounding" drone, which i did think was cool.

i'm excited= to try out the flashback and see what it's 7 sec of delay time will be= like (although i still like
my digitech dl8 & the 8 sec it has). the reports i've heard from pe= ople have been good. i thought it looked
cool when i saw it.
i also j= ust purchased a digitech rp355--it has the 20 sec looper built in (like eve= rything nowadays). i may
read the manual to see how it works. ha. but i was wanting some new digital= model options....& to update a
bit new since i have all the old st= uff (rp150 & zooms g2).

s---

Neat little looper on t=
he Time Factor, not much time but several  

different track speeds and correct me if I'm wrong, the looper does  seem to respond well  to incoming midi sync, as well as stop and  
sta=
rt. also I like that it offers the option to replace or overdub  
with e=
ither latched or unlatched button response. In addition to  

hooking up an EV-5 pedal for expression and morphing duties,  I have  
a=
lso added a three button aux switch, an old digitech FS300 that is  
com=
patible and can be used to assign 3 extra functions  in either  
delay o=
r loop mode. this is where the fun begins.

  I have programmed a ducking delay function with a twist similar to  
w=
hat Per was describing  doing with the Fireworx a while back. My  
ducki=
ng delay patch is set to a very high threshold so that as long as  

I sustain notes, very little of the delay is heard, but the moment i  
r=
est or if i play staccato or muted i can hear the delay bloom. What  
is=
 interesting is that within this ducking delay patch I assigned an  

aux switch to toggle between 0% feedback and %110 percent feedback so  
=
that if I want to, anytime I stop playing for any length of time the  
d=
elay will begin to slowly self oscillate and grow louder until I  
begin=
 playing again and the delay is again ducked and not heard.  (one  

has to be careful not to leave it in this mode and leave the room as  
i=
t does have the capability of self oscillating in to severe speaker  
da=
mage). In addition to this I can at any time hit the hold function  

as well to create a none oscillating infinite loop repeat. I like that  the hold feature is available on all of the different delay types and  the timefactor's delays respond to my Looperlatives incoming midi  
clock very well, syncing up flawlessly, and responding to track speed  
=
changes quickly. I will post some  examples when I get some free time
  =
Bill

--0016e6dab06b74b751049dfae376-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 16:17:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4FD6183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KHtQqN3QeHvt6K4BrGCMyrd1Qp8jcN3lhfXcO7b+ByA=; b=hJvakxmTP46gsNggIlTVkxax4/PQ66asvzWEzdZjZNp1BrGFp14iCpEhs6dG6xWnbN iOcqdg5IROvGBubN7fHl3etS0pGAFq6NTDEBrnm2w8eaY09WF1qc+y+kYf6AK1JK5NBb 9u4v39bP1AuCAvY6h7yxWBNQCgtHIkbnpvG8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w33t0F8sZlyKb5IwoM0+iQ/uJxsH5y8HMNTuMFQ7iJu9aWfXKtQw85KurPPtf1DAgQ FcqMUYGQY79+F6+6et2RO76yl5eL5EvsBybjUMEHbyNPPtY+AdZlzeSqsmsfKoAAvxxO 3tQhU6jO0ACn1gJlxyBP9QBC+5iXtUEQJJt4A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:17:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Ableton with Mobius: realistic system requirements? From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1c174268cd049dfaf35f Resent-Message-ID: <-syDoC.A.EfE.galdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:17:36 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b1c174268cd049dfaf35f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello people, I've recently started exploring both Mobius and Ableton, with a view to eventually putting together a live act (prob a duo) playing acoustic, looped, Abletonised music. A kind of "acoustic house" you could call it. Having read Rick's legendary percussion post and attached thread, I'm planning on doing everything live with no canned loops to really get a sens= e of fun and intimacy going on. The idea is to create the most funky, danceable, joyous vibe possible from just two mediocre musos and a laptop!!= ! :) Anyway: the present problem. My Pentium 4 2.66Ghz with 768MB of RAM can't handle Live 8 at all. I'm looking to upgrade it cheaply - I was thinking maybe a second-hand Athlon x2 with motherboard from eBay (about =A340-=A350 total). This would allow me to get 2+GB of DDR2, possibly free from a friend. The present motherboard will only take the much more expensive DDR flavour, which would be incompatible with any future upgrades anyway. Will this be enough to run Ableton synced with Mobius while using effects, warping, groove engine etc in Ableton? I just need enough power to allow experimentation and writing/arranging some songs for this format for now. Later on I can cross the bridge of needing a super-powerful laptop for the actual live performances. There's also the issue of an audio interface, bu= t again that can wait for now: this will be done one painfully expensive step at a time! Akraf --bcaec51b1c174268cd049dfaf35f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello people,
=A0
I've recently started=A0exploring both=A0Mobius and Ableton, with = a view to eventually putting together a live act (prob a duo) playing acous= tic, looped,=A0Abletonised music.=A0 A kind of "acoustic house" y= ou could call it.=A0 Having read Rick's legendary percussion post and a= ttached thread, I'm planning on doing everything live with no canned lo= ops to really get a sense of fun and intimacy going on.=A0 The idea is to c= reate the most funky, danceable, joyous vibe possible from just two mediocr= e musos and a laptop!!! :)
=A0
Anyway: the present problem.=A0 My Pentium 4 2.66Ghz with 768MB of RAM= can't handle Live 8 at all.=A0 I'm looking to upgrade it cheaply -= I was thinking maybe a second-hand=A0Athlon x2 with motherboard from eBay = (about =A340-=A350 total).=A0 This would allow me to=A0get 2+GB=A0of DDR2, = possibly free from a friend.=A0 The present motherboard will only take the = much more expensive=A0DDR flavour, which would be incompatible with any fut= ure upgrades anyway.
=A0
Will this be enough to run Ableton synced with Mobius while using effe= cts, warping, groove engine=A0etc in Ableton?=A0 I just need enough power t= o allow experimentation and writing/arranging some songs for this format fo= r now.=A0
=A0
Later on I can cross the bridge of needing a super-powerful laptop for= the actual live performances.=A0 There's also the issue of an audio in= terface, but again that can wait for now: this will be done one painfully e= xpensive step at a time!=A0
=A0
Akraf
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--bcaec51b1c174268cd049dfaf35f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 16:30:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92EE9183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D765998.5050502@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:30:16 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - a quick review References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2cdXrD.A.S5E.emldNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:30:22 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > The only difference between fast and slow > is what happens when you let go. (Letting go turns the pedal off.) Reading the manual with it the other night (and I only had it one evening to peruse) I noticed that you could preset the fast and slow lengths ahead of time by making a series of button presses before powering up (as I remember it hazily). In one of these settings, there is a slightly longer ramp up of the volume in the 'slow' setting which I found to be very musical (sounding subtly as if a second musician was playing after engaging the pedal). In the same setting, you could also make the release time a bit longer which was very nice for letting sounds you've capture fade out at the same time that you are capturing a new note. These longer settings are not the default settings of the pedal, however. I, too, thought it was a shame that the button is so loud (like a DL-4) I, too, like Matt, really thought it would be a very cool edition to my pedal array. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 16:36:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6A0C183462; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D765B15.9030704@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:36:37 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Lower octave References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:36:41 +0000 (UTC) speaking about using the Boss PS5 Intellishifter and the PS2 Pitch Shifter/Delay in series, mark francombe wrote: > The nice thing about this setup is that both pedals work together and > by playing simple lines on the guitar and turning both pedals on and > off as you play. you can get multiple chord structures and tones, > without that "pitched" feeling. > > The worst thing you can do with pitch shifters is "leave them on"... > then you just sound like The Residents or Jon Hassel (not too bad I > know)...but play them like they are a part of your melody and they are > magical. Great post, Mark. I own both of these pedals but have never hooked them up in series the way you have described..............out to the music room, I go! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 17:10:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01190183465; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-08_06:2011-03-08,2011-03-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=3 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103080088 Subject: Re: Ableton with Mobius: realistic system requirements? From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:09:11 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <40DA6D54-8BA6-4CB5-9C6C-D8213AF956AF@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Any motherboard processor combination > 2 ghz will do nicely. But plan = on an minimum 4 gb of ram for stable performance on a stage. =20 Good luck with it. Daniel=20 On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Akraf Emaho wrote: > Hello people, > =20 > I've recently started exploring both Mobius and Ableton, with a view = to eventually putting together a live act (prob a duo) playing acoustic, = looped, Abletonised music. A kind of "acoustic house" you could call = it. Having read Rick's legendary percussion post and attached thread, = I'm planning on doing everything live with no canned loops to really get = a sense of fun and intimacy going on. The idea is to create the most = funky, danceable, joyous vibe possible from just two mediocre musos and = a laptop!!! :) > =20 > Anyway: the present problem. My Pentium 4 2.66Ghz with 768MB of RAM = can't handle Live 8 at all. I'm looking to upgrade it cheaply - I was = thinking maybe a second-hand Athlon x2 with motherboard from eBay (about = =A340-=A350 total). This would allow me to get 2+GB of DDR2, possibly = free from a friend. The present motherboard will only take the much = more expensive DDR flavour, which would be incompatible with any future = upgrades anyway. > =20 > Will this be enough to run Ableton synced with Mobius while using = effects, warping, groove engine etc in Ableton? I just need enough = power to allow experimentation and writing/arranging some songs for this = format for now.=20 > =20 > Later on I can cross the bridge of needing a super-powerful laptop for = the actual live performances. There's also the issue of an audio = interface, but again that can wait for now: this will be done one = painfully expensive step at a time!=20 > =20 > Akraf > =20 > =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 18:37:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08C77183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=SmTlpMhkTePNsMkaHHu/jaq70es1agf4+fzmcn5lzC+oe6eV2apdNwarznN8VKWR0gH/vuJ2DAZ9QFh4k3KFoBvEHN2ir9H+Hv7nSU0ggel0ClWQqjACnTX7Rf9dFJcnyCISonordao3xpST1BBQ+62K3PmGRDVIbkFiIdTkdjs= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299609473; bh=ODJ/yNrvvoGcxo3OOiwUZG3ObajwyYTE9VW8wiPxCsI=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=eY9lTgVZTCo2oD1umcHtQZRAbupGXVbYWx7EbqUqvKsdhGnZKMH3INPFda0TuP625fK00Tduzfn/k2QhyQ3o7yXq6hrdEVb/2CwlcdOoBMEu8UO48guHIJUgH59eVhT+cR9gjTUw/AwwVwyA5SV080hiRO+rx3zz0UqQCSDVR8U= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: xM0luxYVM1ngZTDOg_h_nhBFJADOgHtro0N3sV1PMVNckmB 7xxfpcw9r7_sFmsAV7ma7npr7tT2agKFuY1oR2l0aHMazpE.BOKlLx.b.O7n 588QCpUSeii4HAiZSW9KNjMEYo2QvhA00n_9j9_ZnRfHIN0I0Qw9_VdNwZ8D Uj_YDHGTewsAW1JGzVgmrsZACalhb.oTu5eMPcY.1q.YqLI7DmfIajXri_nI tq1AFgE3zGkhMOseT.UoOpMvjqRr8pqOWxzN04KrTbP1Nzi5AnG_rkxYaIU_ PGtD0CVo1ndzh75TDcszmcg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8783513_ANBSimIAADj2TXTQTArFT0KmFtw Subject: =?utf-8?Q?OT_vid=C3=A9o_projector?= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:36:50 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something good definiton, Nice a= nd bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting a lot Of Stills dra= wings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. What's a good chiite o= nt too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai electricity? Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler wrote: > With the interface that allows you to select > two different algorithms for A & B ? > (and then morph between them) >=20 > Looking at the description, it's just the 16 > basic algorithms with "parameter morphing". > i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms > In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'. >=20 > Thanks for the link though. >=20 >=20 > What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run? >=20 > andy > ps > a total of nine users gave it 5/10, > rather confirming that a Vortex emulation > isn't ever going to make me rich. >=20 > Simeon Harris wrote: >> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful reprodu= ction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who's inte= rested in trying it >> sim >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 18:42:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB6F183463; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IE9UIHZpZMOpbyBwcm9qZWN0b3I=?= References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-18--819988962"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19056757-D74F-4420-A912-DD5FCBB04524@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: OT vidéo projector thread-index: AcvdwJvTpiSr+r3BQkS0ctV3+O9ZAw== Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:42:37 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2011 18:42:49.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FC02460:01CBDDC0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:42:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-18--819988962 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Radio Shack had one the other day that was the size of an iphone and less th= an $200 but screen size like 2x2 feet or so, small but... On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:37 PM, "Antony Hequet" wrote: > Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something good definiton, Nice= and bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting a lot Of Stills d= rawings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. What's a good chiit= e ont too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai electricity? > Antony >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler wrote: >=20 > > With the interface that allows you to select > > two different algorithms for A & B ? > > (and then morph between them) > > > > Looking at the description, it's just the 16 > > basic algorithms with "parameter morphing". > > i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms > > In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'. > > > > Thanks for the link though. > > > > > > What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run? > > > > andy > > ps > > a total of nine users gave it 5/10, > > rather confirming that a Vortex emulation > > isn't ever going to make me rich. > > > > Simeon Harris wrote: > >> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful repro= duction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who's in= terested in trying it > >> sim > > >=20 --Apple-Mail-18--819988962 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Radio Shack had one the other day that was the size of an iphone and less than $200 but screen size like 2x2 feet or so, small  but...



On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:37 PM, "Antony Hequet" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something good definiton, Nice and bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting a lot Of Stills drawings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. What's a good chiite ont too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai electricity?
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> With the interface that allows you to select
> two different algorithms for A & B ?
> (and then morph between them)
>
> Looking at the description, it's just the 16
> basic algorithms  with "parameter morphing".
> i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms
> In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'.
>
> Thanks for the link though.
>
>
> What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run?
>
> andy
> ps
> a total of nine users gave it 5/10,
> rather confirming that a Vortex emulation
> isn't ever going to make me rich.
>
> Simeon Harris wrote:
>> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful reproduction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who's interested in trying it
>> sim
>

--Apple-Mail-18--819988962-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 18:46:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D11A183476; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=Zq2b2W5Cw+R78H+Z0ncETxbUvwRM5kFkrkDdJvI4jDX8BK/qD+PVPOdZsD0GZd8LuiFZRG/I5NF+zytuCMHxSzqr4otHMTKCQ8Vs/0+1sPb2tKz//e6S9gNb+bTgjzuxsFZkugC/Ch904EtxjFDQ9Tlys8eN/1Z6UUKd8g0aeIY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299609971; bh=gXduAqxtD3SA0vMaChHse7v6uNDtxIxnXUqYhaPu154=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=5akUBCYN9ayph8wSRz22Lw59txOUSnQuryImyralBonzwh7vR1PlFa7KgDmwA4XmK7MkpWw66U3O+iguNg9nY1a228n4h+bo0cN2XVU8oEtxnV8eksx0TQ1XXiM0k086h4aSxnWBx0Z4gUdytnUqkUFtcW5Uxw1RR8pBcjxfSqc= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: y12j1IoVM1m1AsF7ETN28Io8jFIWWC2oLDu8P9Dz1lzW6hT dRWX12E_QC8iXzeSjN062UUpYuv8MOHjWQtJoHFFv0Cxc2Q3MzISdhFZUpAc EIgEYFCJNRRSjHnCgqT0PxzccR6OtRrYwdD5aJN_Ne4_lCwdA7YxT0Ou6AEa y7PBIruOMc7uYYdkARMu6AQK5ZvZpMDgcsMHHfOQ5WmQuqHTrB_HPR7g5c1t m7U2r9S7ZCZA9HVgz4xamHfyvnbxGNcDMlt3OwVfw_sA3LMtkyOD9JNxH5gn pi1Rm4J8JTVqLLhA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <80A65D55-0B23-4325-A4B2-66F013DF32E8@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8847752_ANZSimIAAGLtTXZ3hwYwq2+6bfA Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_OT_vid=C3=A9o_projector?= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:45:04 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <_ju9Z.A.Dj.1lndNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Fuc..n iPhone respelling words. I hate it. Duuuu Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-08, at 19:36, Antony Hequet wrote: > Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something good definiton, Nice= and bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting a lot Of Stills d= rawings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. What's a good chiit= e ont too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai electricity? > Antony >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler wrote: >=20 >> With the interface that allows you to select >> two different algorithms for A & B ? >> (and then morph between them) >>=20 >> Looking at the description, it's just the 16 >> basic algorithms with "parameter morphing". >> i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms >> In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'. >>=20 >> Thanks for the link though. >>=20 >>=20 >> What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run? >>=20 >> andy >> ps >> a total of nine users gave it 5/10, >> rather confirming that a Vortex emulation >> isn't ever going to make me rich. >>=20 >> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful reprod= uction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who's int= erested in trying it >>> sim >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 19:42:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B5E183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=3xSjHXXMqOr4Y70eoA978Nduql2VP4AoRI7aOSApzzQT7Jml1+GkeyDUKNbbl61uQ0YGC7HOcSttfy/UuLNVukEbjc32BIdZ05pNTpallE3XH3iIlyDfIwzPZlRyUQRhjK30XNY/gaEsz95S/tQowNFncWlCo2ajLN3MfqzueDU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299613370; bh=VTIpY9ep6zS6a7e/bC8QMmBd6PzdYYZxAMTn4vjdQV8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=0XRg38qdoB88RDJjmdJ2JQPnsnqVHs/sM/Vwg+OcgKhGdsQqiNiOR89pHLeMraeMlEjpjMu5YZ3Y8qCfre9eS+Uv0k28IWvl5r2NV3X0sFnozez+JmUYVCSA0SrcTcW4Lv1dSwG6ViDkHLrqyFgi8SKuIixTUpTeCJYlm9CFFNE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: iPupco4VM1nbYU8jOQSX4HvWlVFiZNpBGsv9iq33EdpAHbW 2VfUj.aHEGrbqW4oX3SoROuVx7Kw4XJc5DYbMCLtag8e_f7gmYIOfH2JwGKx 7.bAuWVSOKBZWkLdGboTs5TAzGioGahMTxfJILbOYqWPVfz5mkyTfpZKuB9e jFC_bSPxrT6comJcH8aOtdN7I9VUagp08.VGCm0f8heW3gkAHlEYEhqOrvfI 3nL4lH5v4V5mMz02Fi_ZpXubw1HvBh65V_nzrMVGyKJxfIM.aVyM7kj8hcmw HBJjHCxZDmCB0xKI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> <19056757-D74F-4420-A912-DD5FCBB04524@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <19056757-D74F-4420-A912-DD5FCBB04524@1800dialword.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--816435570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8848299_AH1TimIAANTWTXZ4tgXac3jCUY4 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_OT_vid=C3=A9o_projector?= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:41:46 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--816435570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am in France n=C3=B4 radio Shack aroundcthe corner! Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-08, at 19:42, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Radio Shack had one the other day that was the size of an iphone and less t= han $200 but screen size like 2x2 feet or so, small but... >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:37 PM, "Antony Hequet" wrote= : >=20 >> Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something good definiton, Nic= e and bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting a lot Of Stills d= rawings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. What's a good chiit= e ont too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai electricity? >> Antony >>=20 >> Sent from my iPhone >>=20 >> On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler wrote: >>=20 >> > With the interface that allows you to select >> > two different algorithms for A & B ? >> > (and then morph between them) >> > >> > Looking at the description, it's just the 16 >> > basic algorithms with "parameter morphing". >> > i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms >> > In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'. >> > >> > Thanks for the link though. >> > >> > >> > What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run? >> > >> > andy >> > ps >> > a total of nine users gave it 5/10, >> > rather confirming that a Vortex emulation >> > isn't ever going to make me rich. >> > >> > Simeon Harris wrote: >> >> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful repr= oduction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who's i= nterested in trying it >> >> sim >> > >>=20 --Apple-Mail-4--816435570 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I am in France n=C3=B4 radio Shack arou= ndcthe corner!
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2= 011-03-08, at 19:42, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

Radio Shack had one the other day that was the size o= f an iphone and less than $200 but screen size like 2x2 feet or so, small &n= bsp;but...



On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:37 PM, "= Antony Hequet" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

=

Hey, i need to invest in a vdieo projector, something go= od definiton, Nice and bright. Screen is 2meters by three meters. Projecting= a lot Of Stills drawings manga style. Need to be very Wellington defined. W= hat's a good chiite ont too noisy. Is Led l'essai noisy, consume l'essai ele= ctricity?
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-03-07, at 13:13, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk<= /a>> wrote:

> With the interface that allows you to select
> two different algorithms for A & B ?
> (and then morph between them)
>
> Looking at the description, it's just the 16
> basic algorithms  with "parameter morphing".
> i.e. no morphing between the different algorithms
> In that case, it won't do 'the good stuff'.
>
> Thanks for the link though.
>
>
> What do you need to make a reactor ensemble run?
>
> andy
> ps
> a total of nine users gave it 5/10,
> rather confirming that a Vortex emulation
> isn't ever going to make me rich.
>
> Simeon Harris wrote:
>> there's a reaktor ensemble called AMOR which is a pretty faithful r= eproduction....with morphing and all. i'd be happy yo send it to anyone who'= s interested in trying it
>> sim
>

= --Apple-Mail-4--816435570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 21:02:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD85183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IE9UIHZpZMOpbyBwcm9qZWN0b3I=?= References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> <19056757-D74F-4420-A912-DD5FCBB04524@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: OT vidéo projector thread-index: Acvd1BpSfWubGkSSRyupJ3TICDTwog== Message-ID: <74DC5647-0406-4074-BD8C-CA0FBD154E7A@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:02:08 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2011 21:02:16.0815 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B2117F0:01CBDDD4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Oh, sorry, I meant Cabane de Radio!!!! Ao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 21:11:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E65F5183463; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "boost" To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:11:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110308-0, 08/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 11237044021025488562 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark, don't know what's wrong. i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the capacitor. is that ok ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex > Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat > too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: > >> Hi ! >> a question for Vortex and EDP owners: >> did one of you tried this : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm >> i tried but didn't manage to make it work... >> thanks >> boost >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 21:30:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC8B183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KF1USA8LQ2gyJP3Yr6UeJ0zqml2HoioSklyegq5XBuM=; b=gkKwvwxISaFyBwPKwVoePs1/MJpWPxNc5s8QuxqwbXJ8h1CGZspqsOtl99XoD6PQao K+ikZ53LlcsLVUUx7dvzmqV5q0QtClo9L+ZefJ8jNTVotv0ZNkgq58BWoIf//kYTWB0R 7azmCQ3tW55R6Dyakik+E9kEnpE1mxW5UmMr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ahozXVUplashxoAw1coRtXOGyW1dJJRJXAzqFcAQPTEf0PBzwja3DXPMn9RVKW/Ws7 H4dG2/QV270amFd5suxTWnFkN3PyImJFR7+aCgz3sbDKFGJsUMWm/6mFkEoPquqxT1SY NwE0y7Bm6KCeopCw88I8IK3uTSNG4k9tmTtvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:30:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I tried what you suggested,inserting amplitube into abletons audio track then bridging it into a midi track but still amplitube does not respond to the behrigner at all.However,when i insert amplitube into a midi track it responds to the midi comands without a problem. I also tried using amplitube as stand alone and trying to record into abletons built in looper but the fx dont get recorded,is there a way to do it that way? My goal is just to use this software guitar fx plugin and loop with the built in looper in ableton,jesus that should work a lot easier,no? or is amplitube making it complicated so people buy their fottcontroller? Luis On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup >> the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? >> In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- =A0my RME as the input > > You shouldn't select the RME MIDI In port a "Input for Control > Surface" unless you own and really want to use a natively supported > control surface. Better leave all slots empty in that upper section. > >> do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? > No. That would no be possible anyway, as the FCB1010 is not supported > for native control. > >> port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? > > *TRACK* is what matters in this case. Make sure the RME is "On" in the > Track column (lower region of GUI). (related: *Remote* should be > active if you want to MIDI Learn directly in Live from the RME Port. > *Sync" should be active if you want to send or receive a sync signal. > > Ok, so far Live pref's. No go to the Session View in your session and > create an extra MIDI Track. Set that MIDI Track's input to fetch MIDI > from the RME port and set that track's output to shuffle that MIDI to > the track where the Amplitube 3 plugin is inserted and also targeted > directly into the plugin. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 21:37:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE377183460; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZqF3WJ9B41vJZfsfrE9bJqSG+O41mq/bY5n0T9HDLfE=; b=UaLTWgWFFf6gNpeXkOPx7oXEDJQUqDb4vXlHKcKy45cXtzPmQ7M/p/Ru1fmCkv0XXj v6c2Th/RVXTedk1isT/i46q6jy1fPRsIfv4hvqyAZQ3VWGgGfYcMmEIErbwR/uPq9cb3 3A4AjkUS4JvtuFvs9BSpNcgNMq8yS4hlOc05A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hR9td08O8F3Bkozv24YktS+OsSI4V8HJ3YylW/NMx3ndCb3gmkCC1YrpL+9is5ZJPh qGidk+4fsMjwd5I3AYzmLfQbiWsOlFfvasYg5JZpVYSVB718FIlTiefMGcPDEpCgRMtu uVl2/3nNeLfxpvRaM6LJcXvjrCxYriIgri2cc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:37:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:37:20 +0000 (UTC) I do have to correct you Bill,the looper does not sync properly when slaved to a drum machine,but it will respond to start/stop commands. Yes be very careful with regeneration feedback you can get some serious ear/speaker damage! Luis > Neat little looper on the Time Factor, not much time but several > > different track speeds and correct me if I'm wrong, the looper does > seem to respond well to incoming midi sync, as well as stop and > start. also I like that it offers the option to replace or overdub > with either latched or unlatched button response. In addition to > > hooking up an EV-5 pedal for expression and morphing duties, I have > also added a three button aux switch, an old digitech FS300 that is > compatible and can be used to assign 3 extra functions in either > delay or loop mode. this is where the fun begins. > > I have programmed a ducking delay function with a twist similar to > what Per was describing doing with the Fireworx a while back. My > ducking delay patch is set to a very high threshold so that as long as > > I sustain notes, very little of the delay is heard, but the moment i > rest or if i play staccato or muted i can hear the delay bloom. What > is interesting is that within this ducking delay patch I assigned an > > aux switch to toggle between 0% feedback and %110 percent feedback so > that if I want to, anytime I stop playing for any length of time the > delay will begin to slowly self oscillate and grow louder until I > begin playing again and the delay is again ducked and not heard. (one > > has to be careful not to leave it in this mode and leave the room as > it does have the capability of self oscillating in to severe speaker > damage). In addition to this I can at any time hit the hold function > > as well to create a none oscillating infinite loop repeat. I like that > the hold feature is available on all of the different delay types and > the timefactor's delays respond to my Looperlatives incoming midi > > clock very well, syncing up flawlessly, and responding to track speed > changes quickly. I will post some examples when I get some free time > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 21:39:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA05183463; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CtSw88R/4qepHXYv/6jejzKSZnqCFjoG/xuSkl5ADD8=; b=KN8esYjpHAM4QknIn+aI0MWUpPIvpBEeuI1PVvj8VPT0VTAoHXvBF9esCGtR2O0fMg 4yTgQRxuV3aZwp6H0wGSgAB2a21d/VbPEAoAD4SV6w9fUE0oRN7a1GFwgIBUTt3480zT 8Q+jyc+5u7qo4DjPnzZ4tLXoLAp14MymheT8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rTWIvlwrnlBnzdhQ5DhXT+LqLpKGLgQDqBh4MAcn00l2sTPxHr8UUSnvRpoRA1HJl0 2Vb7SfJDlAJocnntKqmiJUD0MWKTX7BtHW3TDsuYbFF9gKawQtExxze/i3WBNsndPI5O bUEH0kX9mJdVRlAZ+LpxxjhT3R5zrOICGTWF4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5D06CF53-CA7F-4A46-9600-5C0D6BD90F4B@baymoon.com> References: <5D06CF53-CA7F-4A46-9600-5C0D6BD90F4B@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:39:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:39:14 +0000 (UTC) i just noticed there is a new sw beta upgrade,gotta try that though im sure they havent adress the looper sync problem:-( Luis On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:17 AM, William Walker wro= te: > Neat little looper on the Time Factor, not much time but several differen= t > track speeds and correct me if I'm wrong, the looper does seem to respond > well =A0to incoming midi sync, as well as stop and start. also I like tha= t it > offers the option to replace or overdub with either latched or unlatched > button response. In addition to hooking up an EV-5 pedal for expression a= nd > morphing duties, =A0I have also added a three button aux switch, an old > digitech FS300 that is compatible and can be used to assign 3 extra > functions =A0in either delay or loop mode. this is where the fun begins. > =A0I have programmed a ducking delay function with a twist similar to wha= t Per > was describing =A0doing with the Fireworx a while back. My ducking delay = patch > is set to a very high threshold so that as long as I sustain notes, very > little of the delay is heard, but the moment i rest or if i play staccato= or > muted i can hear the delay bloom. What is interesting is that within this > ducking delay patch I assigned an aux switch to toggle between 0% feedbac= k > and %110 percent feedback so that if I want to, anytime I stop playing fo= r > any length of time the delay will begin to slowly self oscillate and grow > louder until I begin playing again and the delay is again ducked and not > heard. =A0(one has to be careful not to leave it in this mode and leave t= he > room as it does have the capability of self oscillating in to severe spea= ker > damage). In addition to this I can at any time hit the hold function as w= ell > to create a none oscillating infinite loop repeat. I like that the hold > feature is available on all of the different delay types and the > timefactor's delays respond to my Looperlatives incoming midi clock very > well, syncing up flawlessly, and responding to track speed changes quickl= y. > I will post some =A0examples when I get some free time > =A0Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:11:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B789183475; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rKT7oTillctGeSwCQ27ctGDvXAT2eIjNuh3sJ886Hf0=; b=Juc7D75gtnkQD7w9h+++P8Ve6/duu9ZaJcMOjD/2AKoOngDUFvIbKtRwE8hjSc8dpl iWmcY9FAXGZQXG3wS6N26HRMDpfDyzE1BJgeIalkaPeIs23OFAxIqOwsu3fz5FM+gK96 7YWJj9+lawfVL9kmRZdQ5sZ6UNeJY0yvEx6cM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m16HD5cM6b1G7mRMLywu0qOHmFkdPfpBwrnoejulUdx89Gm/o1kpZL1cZNrvqtX67S YD140aFr8Dm4/jRX+tpArxRuUQsZLeX23qt5nUMPQLNtuqwkre56MNQnJL7Y21PKCl9S mlXJOhMFm2sZuWzbV7sMoqDb64zgZptR044R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:11:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <35ZUa.A.LEG.kmqdNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:11:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, It should work also for Amplitube on an Auido Track. I just tried that here now and can assure you it works (when I kick my expression pedal on the floor the MIDI CC# goes through the MIDI track into the Audio Track and the Amplitube plugin gets the message - i.e. MIDI Learn working ok). Maybe you simply did not set the Live Track's Monitor toggle to "In"? With any real-time live data routing in Live you should set the Monitor to "In". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi Per, > I tried what you suggested,inserting amplitube into abletons audio > track then bridging it into a midi track but still amplitube does not > respond to the behrigner at all.However,when i insert amplitube into a > midi track it responds to the midi comands without a problem. > I also tried using amplitube as stand alone and trying to record into > abletons built in looper but the fx dont get recorded,is there a way > to do it that way? > My goal is just to use this software guitar fx plugin and loop with > the built in looper in ableton,jesus that should work a lot easier,no? > or is amplitube making it complicated so people buy their fottcontroller? > Luis > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup >>> the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? >>> In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- =C2=A0my RME as the inpu= t >> >> You shouldn't select the RME MIDI In port a "Input for Control >> Surface" unless you own and really want to use a natively supported >> control surface. Better leave all slots empty in that upper section. >> >>> do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? >> No. That would no be possible anyway, as the FCB1010 is not supported >> for native control. >> >>> port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? >> >> *TRACK* is what matters in this case. Make sure the RME is "On" in the >> Track column (lower region of GUI). (related: *Remote* should be >> active if you want to MIDI Learn directly in Live from the RME Port. >> *Sync" should be active if you want to send or receive a sync signal. >> >> Ok, so far Live pref's. No go to the Session View in your session and >> create an extra MIDI Track. Set that MIDI Track's input to fetch MIDI >> from the RME port and set that track's output to shuffle that MIDI to >> the track where the Amplitube 3 plugin is inserted and also targeted >> directly into the plugin. >> >> Per >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:40:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3844F183466; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFAJE/dk1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYeo1twjOFYwSFHYpc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,286,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="107941937" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <3D1DC1BE-AADB-4C7B-B1B6-84BABEB5269A@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:44:07 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:40:52 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 8, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I do have to correct you Bill,the looper does not sync properly when > slaved to a drum machine This is probably a dumb question, but you have you upgraded to the latest OS? I believe it's still in the beta testing stage, but I thought they tried to correct a lot of these problems. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:41:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0AB183473; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoEFANM+dk1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYeo1twjyFYwSFHYpc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,286,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="107799454" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <3F602EAA-C7EB-4C54-A4BD-3FC61D2A1FBD@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:45:12 -0600 References: <5D06CF53-CA7F-4A46-9600-5C0D6BD90F4B@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:41:47 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 8, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i just noticed there is a new sw beta upgrade,gotta try that > though im sure they havent adress the looper sync problem:-( :) Sorry! I should have read this email before posting. I hope it works for you! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:50:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E80B183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=KEXnjQuI3gf9pWl05+0oebsF0ucOE7nJ0XHYxxkkPWTtuNvQflkM8tb7KNxHIprDZ+eBtk0X14csDPCSMg9wZrTt3mXc6R0sBZ8zWcUeuAA8Fv5qZlGy6zyWi4+ssC+USV9upy0W/Dl7I34gKKtM7yCJWvahruO/TWHzOXnz418= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299624610; bh=mKsZpOCDSgRR90C4qnliXy+09BcKB/AmupsJ0p7zIIY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=2ztHF3LUAv5V5hXSrZ6Z11fBPBNXTTXj+pn3rxaZh46ZHLXqfZ0B/oouz2moExXv9Pircwt7TjaHBDSxswewbLB8rR/b4xnS4TV39X9bE7H+VK2D49WcCJo50leZr657YaTZ3Oi/VKjJVAHAJWQIUoOLNdHJOcL1oD6WaEOFnGY= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: Gk.oggYVM1nm0TOFEU0Pr6Q2Iz88mjthQClFJbG9nDzqnCZ vkf0TpgAshA_k4XCXJM3v72n_rwnNMEs5IejDf_K6wBLoEU3EpBrZNXCIkhX FIvkAd4pjeXb9GPTWXnxDZc9vtm9_5lhmKYjkay2vf6z_8PlKHmBZcEQ36uU CuQlTgUfphmiVGBvJfGtcp6jP..nI7bhD8SXTtNzKJFkWCm62eb2CDi94Lfs OxLZAssS1HpopX9JCaQp22M1bc6KWxvnXwnyyd.KmNOOm3FbTNb6W4Q.VhTn HAFrd3GXySC0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <3890370.1299374647280.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4D737BF6.7010803@cruzio.com> <4D738BF1.9020408@googlemail.com> <4D74CBEA.6030104@tiscali.co.uk> <19056757-D74F-4420-A912-DD5FCBB04524@1800dialword.com> <74DC5647-0406-4074-BD8C-CA0FBD154E7A@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <74DC5647-0406-4074-BD8C-CA0FBD154E7A@1800dialword.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8DCF8B32-68DD-4692-97EA-C123F85176D6@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8855225_ANhSimIAADXKTXaZYAg8CTQ683M Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_OT_vid=C3=A9o_projector?= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:49:12 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Oh:) Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-08, at 22:02, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Oh, sorry, I meant Cabane de Radio!!!! > > Ao > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:52:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 802CF183464; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lY+LTbim5fpNtmG5i6TIK4U0lF9GKOfEn6QsogYyYzg=; b=M2zHo66t51gYCRTu0y3e6i8nhjHIihS9tmRgq1xRYw/E19gW7mu8R7++1VZC8coWX+ QQMA8uqA1cAilQt6hDKEHeWHEObQMYZyGSUZx+XTAnbG1Nbk5qI1SYe6WKreVeQYXHSE BHnCNBP59W5K+XMREew3zcTGPNKIj7dwZ/Mm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RTsKqmdAI/2cuXOM8tUUdKyYH8jxviyIfTQqnCuztdwR3pboRDWQ08Imf8DBDBZsdD Ge4As0rVggYSJDQiFSXZWGTqiv1Ptv3x06YkKquSZAcip6e+kmKcWlFBXVES2chzG9MV Ci+dWaSmyFYCFhXF+6rLkEoCze38y0NC/WEyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3D1DC1BE-AADB-4C7B-B1B6-84BABEB5269A@frontier.com> References: <3D1DC1BE-AADB-4C7B-B1B6-84BABEB5269A@frontier.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:52:56 +0000 (UTC) i havent but i really doubt they did anythong about syncing the looper because i didnt see any information on that but i hope im wrong! Bill is yours loaded with the latest update? On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> I do have to correct you Bill,the looper does not sync properly when >> slaved to a drum machine > > This is probably a dumb question, but you have you upgraded to the latest > OS? I believe it's still in the beta testing stage, but I thought they tried > to correct a lot of these problems. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:55:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51E3F18347D; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=A1ffPXDNl2h15QPKfTPPZfh/pPqrvBrNrVCohHd6+mA=; b=O1gXtrCNYqypPtKJ4Bs0++6uneEcjQkbvQr6AEUNyzoT2q0QF50VUuBCZaRJVEIfd8 wyS9+u72hltxnqDJG67vXmmB48gSKsX/uI92KDSXmljvNqH8hUiuKpzb4ov4JE9eBWvX b+hv3k438//VzlWGPIJhNaSHUngLA1O+al4cU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZYLHRnFad9rQaCzYmEOxiXW4N36of/6hbDjrQuKp3AaDVvD7oGGdYXnujMN75hLjsz CEVaowukl4yfMeIOTh4u1+R0hFsQTUUbKs0SUCFZdUoAG2uzF9QpvrTc8muHopTNohCm l4YbLRzZ/goMLRsSG1fgPpelQ3HM0KBFvZ0Wc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:55:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:55:13 +0000 (UTC) here is a further interesting take on Kurzwell philosophy from my previous thread. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK4gevQ5uqg cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 8 22:58:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C373F183482; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9EdBaRMNLCLhF/yPPp7D01kTv8rQIOWIy4Jv7hzXlbA=; b=eMl7qzBX+flULTlhPT7hLf/bjACH5zQ00IQWCppfP+n3spIvrtJogvD4memH6bYLpx oLhFJOMV5Jcvpyg25vvfAMBeAi4vXs1Vt0t6T3S+rmcDQUYlLjb9qE4uPpITAXfXYyJy T5yN1t/u5ZSNzB/7QO3QeRIdHUxU9MdVZNBNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=w4FIW6MG5V0xt2c8zyAz05nqhg0B/O5QSXSPSJHo3e5t9uCGHsKv7D4oEH7NSFCe3e rHAZT3FPO3FChnBRJcDxIZdUQl8LMxEBFeeJSd2vKQdH92CSFh+mwxPoOW5wCUEUcgeJ XpTup+hpGFZfxs15RZgHq9rwz385fa/oUMk+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:58:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dZ_GuDzQUKuUS2MnirI3-xrJ_04 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e824c0adb9d049e008e2d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:58:47 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e824c0adb9d049e008e2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did it actually. I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnected the A/B channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between EDP and Vortex. I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the morph switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and back to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket... http://twitpic.com/47lej2 (See the two little switches in the top right?) One synchs the tap to the EDP one synchs the morph. I have to say that both dont work at the same time, its one OR the other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph on the other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then vortex jumps back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade both ways... GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>> But connecting the ground would be wrong. the ground is just the ground. What you should be doing is connecting the signal to ground via a capaciter, to smooth out (or is it to lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in there somewhere...? make sure that its round the right way... they are always the bugger. Mark On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost wrote: > Hi Mark, > don't know what's wrong. > i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the > capacitor. > is that ok ? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" < > markfrancombe@gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM > Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex > > > > Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat >> too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. >> >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> >> On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: >> >> Hi ! >>> a question for Vortex and EDP owners: >>> did one of you tried this : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm >>> i tried but didn't manage to make it work... >>> thanks >>> boost >>> >>> >> > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e824c0adb9d049e008e2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did it actually.
= I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnected the A/B chan= nel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between EDP and Vortex. =
I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the morph switch,= thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and back to the ci= rcuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket...

http://twitpic.com/47lej2
(See the two little switches in the top right?)
One synchs the tap to th= e EDP one synchs the morph.

I have to say that both dont work at the= same time, its one OR the other, but setting a long morph on one preset an= d a short morph on the other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a = bar, and then vortex jumps=A0 back and does it again, rather than the usual= slow fade both ways...

GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>>
But connecting the ground wou= ld be wrong. the ground is just the ground. What you should be doing is con= necting the signal to ground via a capaciter, to smooth out (or is it to le= ngthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in there somewhere...? make sure t= hat its round the right way... they are always the bugger.

Mark






On Tue, Mar = 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:
Hi Mark,
don't know what's wrong.
i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the capacit= or.
is that ok ?

----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" <markfrancombe@gmail.c= om>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex


Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat
too.. =A0Keep trying it's a great mod.

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:

Hi !
a question for Vortex and EDP owners:
did one of you tried this : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm
i tried but didn't manage to make it work...
thanks
boost






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--90e6ba6e824c0adb9d049e008e2d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 00:21:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03E74183464; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4eRHlQA/ije5XDdSGTY4770mv+m4qV2kY/EGES0S97g=; b=dqszlZ+k6jrl6Zvpf06FEA38r3BAFF4IDDpFGRGEe6TPTF5OkSSMXrdEcsGxY4CoRb hJpLiTfcT9OYz0vmg1fPbodIG7YI4/kpDSAyyc71qScRiRz+/0KPLl0thp1wd/izJOxf pTe6c/cxz57Ib7WCqkl/qvTvir0qmIxoh0/Ng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PAHFAkAXKFB5KbFv9caiuWbN5LX3AB1yvqssNSKeAN3MuanFBC5OpfxqgLcyKvP/C6 dwxD30jhK7eJxsSZtxv75ZKmDzdzpmCz1Qx4hFBRaSJT2TWfatUWJafjH6IXzjgoNL6Z e27w0VfclWMMvojw/Qe4BWGf2zoQ3+NJnJim4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:21:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT: More modern koto playing from Michiyo Yagi, this time a bit Crimson-esque From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Loved this one, it made my day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNL4WZhkuFc&feature=related Michiyo Yagi, koto, Akihisa Tsuboy violin, and Tamaya Honda just rips it up on the drums It's Live at Nishi-Ogikubo Aketa no Mise, Tokyo (Japan) / 26th Dec. 2010 / -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 00:50:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D772183464; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cnKmpLmYS8bXy3ulm94xriPSQUwzMdu/mD4PRe+VNAQ=; b=rC9rhklAgDg70dwApsFCTx4eYSU2GQwiZxRRq6WEAiAcSgjf4XbCzhT3rxYsB4Uece 77Wygh8UbUfjLRv+IwAj+AJ65Yb4mzJ6k7OQvsR6QB0pkHEDsoi6qTIt+Zm5A4j5H+8/ p/4ue8bVvFjQIbYsPccbsGjyWjHjAqULRDNBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oKGqVjgYRFu76+gZRkw+ML3WPY+JbehIFapbvjjOPB0zGek3aJcxqWWFo0nRw6+1aL MAg3f63yESopgoswJJ0nfXLfmGwj8kqkm1LJFEuKO6N63ws2mY8T5HcFLJ9cj1YGFlzd e/H5Z6fS6W8LW2mg3YVOO+1jd/LHvk/cVIXvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 01:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with fcb1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:50:08 +0000 (UTC) yes i pretty sure i did have the tracks monitor turned on on the audio track where the amplitube plugin is inserted,otherwise you cannot here the stomp box effects going through. do you have a demo version as well? but ill make sure again and get back to you thanx Per Luis On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Luis, > > It should work also for Amplitube on an Auido Track. I just tried that > here now and can assure you it works (when I kick my expression pedal > on the floor the MIDI CC# goes through the MIDI track into the Audio > Track and the Amplitube plugin gets the message - i.e. MIDI Learn > working ok). > > Maybe you simply did not set the Live Track's Monitor toggle to "In"? > With any real-time live data routing in Live you should set the > Monitor to "In". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hi Per, >> I tried what you suggested,inserting amplitube into abletons audio >> track then bridging it into a midi track but still amplitube does not >> respond to the behrigner at all.However,when i insert amplitube into a >> midi track it responds to the midi comands without a problem. >> I also tried using amplitube as stand alone and trying to record into >> abletons built in looper but the fx dont get recorded,is there a way >> to do it that way? >> My goal is just to use this software guitar fx plugin and loop with >> the built in looper in ableton,jesus that should work a lot easier,no? >> or is amplitube making it complicated so people buy their fottcontroller= ? >> Luis >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo >>> wrote: >>>> The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup >>>> the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? >>>> In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- =A0my RME as the input >>> >>> You shouldn't select the RME MIDI In port a "Input for Control >>> Surface" unless you own and really want to use a natively supported >>> control surface. Better leave all slots empty in that upper section. >>> >>>> do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? >>> No. That would no be possible anyway, as the FCB1010 is not supported >>> for native control. >>> >>>> port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? >>> >>> *TRACK* is what matters in this case. Make sure the RME is "On" in the >>> Track column (lower region of GUI). (related: *Remote* should be >>> active if you want to MIDI Learn directly in Live from the RME Port. >>> *Sync" should be active if you want to send or receive a sync signal. >>> >>> Ok, so far Live pref's. No go to the Session View in your session and >>> create an extra MIDI Track. Set that MIDI Track's input to fetch MIDI >>> from the RME port and set that track's output to shuffle that MIDI to >>> the track where the Amplitube 3 plugin is inserted and also targeted >>> directly into the plugin. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 00:51:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08EF5183473; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nrpdLA3vOhEleSOtNfieEPzRIpreZ9lxOuzzL1vTlyU=; b=taGZ0G4yRziNPdE9gFl5E2ftrNK+IWtN+50kK0j0QDSok8GkkPJR05ILrO+LQeey+O efCmAejTslN8iGeSTQkqfIn+L9V7nstX1491TTMHYHJUECzEf7XMRqg/knF2WCFvgyiD nJEhJSjoLGPPT1F2OcO/d93UxZR4jeMlNO1hU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HXmCv2z41Vhr4HYIPdcdvMIZYFN9jKxMhhKmyJMEuwClQL6ClsgpxzKs91ycO13v4B t00NlQR6Tuj2fJVPCXCaFFEdvmzC+RQGB0PBck4tIAoWQRMXGhY/QCXUQAyhieg0PhGQ KE/t/XxiAOc21FoSn9d4uc1OijrJgtlRvnYUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:51:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: More modern koto playing from Michiyo Yagi, this time a bit Crimson-esque From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) That was great, thanks. Kevin On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Loved this one, it made my day: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNNL4WZhkuFc&feature=3Drelated > > Michiyo Yagi, koto, Akihisa Tsuboy violin, and Tamaya Honda just rips > it up on the drums > It's Live at Nishi-Ogikubo Aketa no Mise, Tokyo (Japan) / 26th Dec. 2010 = / > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 00:52:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A339518347A; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=n/HhskIwyTBmA2FEsCJABdlcEFD5nD2KaM9mJRLiskM= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=ADo7X7uwdRMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=AkrilYsNthvM98HN8P4A:9 a=RZbzdyua1NDkxiPM391hO_Mi5TMA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:52:55 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1949263610.6733373.1299631975411.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: RE: OT: More modern koto playing from Michiyo Yagi, this time a bit Crimson-esque MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Like! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Loved this one, it made my day: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNL4WZhkuFc&feature=related > > Michiyo Yagi, koto, Akihisa Tsuboy violin, and Tamaya Honda just rips > it up on the drums > It's Live at Nishi-Ogikubo Aketa no Mise, Tokyo (Japan) / 26th Dec. > 2010 / > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 02:02:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 079AF183462; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=s5H1Z44BBJYcU15rf+MeRZyCOwecSQcfSNfPEXC+R6I= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=Oux2TRzinC0R_oCvfPsA:9 a=Kt075Gb15Y7bJBSGMbUA:7 a=qIsIkH9tubNE8L8ZhyIyQc9MLQgA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=16WJEFSciv6qxtVk:21 a=phFnQkmtklTq19WW:21 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:01:21 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, Just for the grins and giggles of it, I thought I'd post something a little different today. Being sort of tired of heavy deep and philosophical discussions and/or obscure technical problem-solving for gear or software many of us don't own (and likely never will). Here is my proposal for a question: If you could form a performing ensemble of any sort or size, with anyone living or dead, sky's the limit, who would it be? This is something akin to daydreaming of what you'd do if you won the lottery, I admit (or something ridiculous like that), and serves about as much practical use. But it could be fun. I'm still thinking about mine . . . A lot of people I really like as individual musicians often would make odd or even impossible pairings stylistically. Of course this is all nonsense, and they'd never play with the likes of me anyway. But, as silly as it may be, it's fun to daydream. I'd like to play in a band that had . . . Cuong Vu: trumpet Mick Karn: bass Joey Baron: drums Dawn Upshaw: vocals (operatic soprano) Kronos Quartet: strings Sonny Sharrock on one guitar And moi: on another guitar (and loops). Sort of a pickles and pudding combination, I admit . . . but that's me. Now it's your turn. [fill in the blanks] Have fun... Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 02:55:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D37183465; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I5SEb6qJldWitRA/IT2iZ2xLF+cGjRmIZHDm0cwJQLg=; b=wqVliv+sFZJJIsFY0/XG7aQI5CjkuaWv6UVKuHasqD0womKNsyE7xbG+TW7vetMteM RyzNr78S6eedb6NCR9kliCzM3+xgsGdLtKy6zJDL99JEkgEn8sVLIXROabFjDQwJF/iU BUY9au3M+SX1i2UCe8lmcgUs/ROTLrKgE1hSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NRIGdVrSzYVtJW4niHFA4j8lEwMZK5l7uRbD/PZ+GkA9JecXkiDi5u7SWhmqT4DVJY SgdgG8Jo3mIqsrkzkQlh7i9/kKt+YAVFD1VscDvo2FD7HVTOO9PA4eOGpBr6xpoIPpAC pKPsVIPrwYjKYkZdfBdG8kNADHkU5mH8dcKDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:55:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56b0a002019049e03db74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56b0a002019049e03db74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sorry for the quasi-off-topic query, but for what it's worth i have multiple instances of edpx running in most of my layouts. in bidule i use "layouts" like presets: each has a distinct set of vsts, routings, mixers/mixes, etc. unfortunately, there's no way to call these up via midi (so says seb at plogue), so this kinda sucks as i really don't want to be fucking with the computer during a live situation. i need to be able to call up a preset via midi...just like you would on an effects box, synth module, etc. how are we achieving this? thanks. - jim --000e0cd56b0a002019049e03db74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry for the quasi-off-topic query, but for what it's worth i have mul= tiple instances of edpx running in most of my layouts.

in bidule i u= se "layouts" like presets: each has a distinct set of vsts, routi= ngs, mixers/mixes, etc.=A0 unfortunately, there's no way to call these = up via midi (so says seb at plogue), so this kinda sucks as i really don= 9;t want to be fucking with the computer during a live situation.=A0 i need= to be able to call up a preset via midi...just like you would on an effect= s box, synth module, etc.=A0 how are we achieving this?

thanks.

- jim
--000e0cd56b0a002019049e03db74-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 03:06:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 109D1183478; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4+UF70a8KbNTXoBBdGz96K9vKg3k3dmu99zGaZRVpvk=; b=laRU6LBY2iS73Tiw14ARlZYncWkqXiB8hGaMN05lQ0GZIcq5xe0nm/uanN3hbdjQws oFdcf0zgdyoThmvbS/idebMmLF1Eg1TeoxyskSfD1XAY5spKPscOj08u1YQ6NAj1zziK Y7nz0dPzHF6fP1pJGvWxnlSpFY0WHpIb9+EkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H6r3ZnB0Yfl4aE0isEf4yeEW/uS/yPOJn9tpDSlPwODcy/gnfiC5bUk163VSdVkGUd 4zWwGSmYWmCL595EsT/X8TivJS43buNF1CXtLFY0pQyeaXbwul/K976fw+wacL/vNewg kjv1oknKFk7a0D4toaT9/b8S7rzpu5FSynIAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:05:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Ted, I can't do any better. That would be my fantasy band as well! On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:01 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Hi gang, > > Just for the grins and giggles of it, I thought I'd post something a litt= le > different today. > > Being sort of tired of heavy deep and philosophical discussions and/or > obscure technical problem-solving for gear or software many of us don't o= wn > (and likely never will). > > Here is my proposal for a question: > > If you could form a performing ensemble of any sort or size, with anyone > living or dead, sky's the limit, who would it be? > > This is something akin to daydreaming of what you'd do if you won the > lottery, I admit (or something ridiculous like that), and serves about as > much practical use. > > But it could be fun. > > I'm still thinking about mine . . . > > A lot of people I really like as individual musicians often would make od= d > or even impossible pairings stylistically. > > Of course this is all nonsense, and they'd never play with the likes of m= e > anyway. > > But, as silly as it may be, it's fun to daydream. > > I'd like to play in a band that had . . . > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cuong Vu: trumpet > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mick Karn: bass > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Joey Baron: drums > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Dawn Upshaw: vocals (operatic soprano) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kronos Quartet: strings > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Sonny Sharrock on one guitar > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0And moi: on another guitar (and loops). > > Sort of a pickles and pudding combination, I admit . . . but that's me. > > Now it's your turn. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[fill in the blanks] > > Have fun... > > Ted > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 03:28:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71484183465; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=HTMWtsOKbLiz35u4TUAS+/zYz7uwGL+GHpg5nP7ZJaL9dayIwl8GluDxvV2Gatlt; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <13119529.1299641330392.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:28:50 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48e4ff83c1545f9c840bd02d9c7c3764b2548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:28:51 +0000 (UTC) i wanna jam with JIMI -----Original Message----- >From: Art Simon >Sent: Mar 8, 2011 7:05 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Cc: tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn >Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND > >Sorry Ted, I can't do any better. That would be my fantasy band as well! > >On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:01 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: >> Hi gang, >> >> Just for the grins and giggles of it, I thought I'd post something a lit= tle >> different today. >> >> Being sort of tired of heavy deep and philosophical discussions and/or >> obscure technical problem-solving for gear or software many of us don't = own >> (and likely never will). >> >> Here is my proposal for a question: >> >> If you could form a performing ensemble of any sort or size, with anyone >> living or dead, sky's the limit, who would it be? >> >> This is something akin to daydreaming of what you'd do if you won the >> lottery, I admit (or something ridiculous like that), and serves about a= s >> much practical use. >> >> But it could be fun. >> >> I'm still thinking about mine . . . >> >> A lot of people I really like as individual musicians often would make o= dd >> or even impossible pairings stylistically. >> >> Of course this is all nonsense, and they'd never play with the likes of = me >> anyway. >> >> But, as silly as it may be, it's fun to daydream. >> >> I'd like to play in a band that had . . . >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cuong Vu: trumpet >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mick Karn: bass >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Joey Baron: drums >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dawn Upshaw: vocals (operatic soprano) >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Kronos Quartet: strings >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sonny Sharrock on one guitar >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And moi: on another guitar (and loops). >> >> Sort of a pickles and pudding combination, I admit . . . but that's me. >> >> Now it's your turn. >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[fill in the blanks] >> >> Have fun... >> >> Ted >> >> > > > >--=20 >Art Simon >simart@gmail.com >myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 07:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF044183465; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pJ49P+Va1pXPISzzq7+pB4FWloZAkUo7rgSzkdgwmjc=; b=LIEw26CWODoswOr3nxbNiU6DmYIsZ+0PqCyroOrKIBwzi3NdPpmEaDEqGtOAyOqLXZ 1XdwfTnthz/nccKXZbA+1PGn834JhPylEk+hRVWe0wEQnl//dvNuTkgCOnmcCOLVVPY4 L+hG5pmSMQLQT1OfuyN/WelOeAYxspXd2uS6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dse3dvhWE3JAuTk1vLGT+bNDM1mdEsfhX8V5Vtu0zpdinYIN7lyUKm0LC8IyEYAn2K gnopqKxB0RrGCFBViUSJc7KcpTPQMjNfvQWCotsP2m3aBPCf6PgIT2nmAKm79/+FSBwq SsWO1rnjoeoSVauLmtlz1U6601oFcfKzRSehw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:22:41 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:22:42 +0000 (UTC) I wouldn't mine being in a band that had Tony Allen (of Fela Kuti's band) on drums, Ryan Moore (of Legendary Pink Dots & Twilight Circus Dub Sound System) on bass, Bill Wolter (a local dude I know) on guitar, and me doing various electronic stuff. Probably no vocalist unless maybe if Horace Andy was available. If Adrian Utley (from Portishead) was available on organ, or Arve Henriksen was available for trumpet, I'd probably let them sit in with us. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 07:28:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D93D3183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-09_04:2011-03-09,2011-03-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103080232 Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 23:28:16 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Mine would be Sigur-Ros + Vernon Reid and Jaco t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:22 PM Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND >I wouldn't mine being in a band that had Tony Allen (of Fela Kuti's > band) on drums, Ryan Moore (of Legendary Pink Dots & Twilight Circus > Dub Sound System) on bass, Bill Wolter (a local dude I know) on > guitar, and me doing various electronic stuff. Probably no vocalist > unless maybe if Horace Andy was available. If Adrian Utley (from > Portishead) was available on organ, or Arve Henriksen was available > for trumpet, I'd probably let them sit in with us. > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 08:24:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E64183463; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ByQPwGmyrtQorhtyZgtfkyyb8wAKB2QpWEahkfD+gfI=; b=dwx2nSi2/xY157ifrKcdCFY0jg3QCa9ynm7ae23YKrauYaUl2yBDyk6blZ8sfb7Rbh EP/CZerGYJtM07k0Wk894eZ+pkd8aTBHLkeVwG6G2NzFY0Wx3NBP9OvrDjGFnIO2JpIM vTgBSbDw2vD0LlxiurJZCFPG0Gb/RoUqt8fsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dGC3IdYPa9VRePMu1yJnt80CXjpJPJL4LTnF7dipsE1xrhWqFfM1H8VeB465Om9V/s d7m0tWETeiestnL5btYxPELlboSDZqjRzwi07m5xQ6U1PIIbBPJbYiPC5CXyJEK+hbRy dbsLqYnYowUfBVaQklQbxqU3AGab2cSR2J0Ts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:24:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:24:18 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM, james fowler wrote: > sorry for the quasi-off-topic query, but for what it's worth i have multi= ple > instances of edpx running in most of my layouts. > > in bidule i use "layouts" like presets: each has a distinct set of vsts, > routings, mixers/mixes, etc.=C2=A0 unfortunately, there's no way to call = these up > via midi (so says seb at plogue), so this kinda sucks as i really don't w= ant > to be fucking with the computer during a live situation.=C2=A0 i need to = be able > to call up a preset via midi...just like you would on an effects box, syn= th > module, etc.=C2=A0 how are we achieving this? > Use the Bidule object called Audio Switcher. Cable your audio input device into the Audio Switcher's audio input and cable out from each output tag to a full "session" of yours. Each of those output tags correspond per default to a MIDI Program Change number, so depending on what PC you send in from your pedalboard (cable your MIDI Device into the Audio Switcher's MIDI input tag) your input audio will be routed through one of the alternative sessions (by the tags).Now, in order to have all objects not in used being turned off, to spare CPU power, you should go into the global Parameters window and link all object's Mode to the Audio Switcher tag they're getting their signal from. Inside the Parameters window there will be a hell of a lot of objects so be kind to yourself and start naming each object to indicate which sessions/effect chain it belongs to. Here is an example of the Audio Switcher linking in the Parameters window: Source: Audio Swiicher_1, Processing Mode Output 1. Target: Chorus_1, Mode. Source: Audio Swiicher_1, Processing Mode Output 2. Target: Delay_2, Mode. ...etc, etc. There is a very useful custom Group for reverb tail preservation when switching between huge patches from the Audio Switcher. It should be downloadable somewhere on the Bidule forum, a guy once built it for me after a discussion on the topic. I can send it over by private email or file transfer too. Best wishes Per Boysen . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 08:30:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE835183462; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=I+THlt+ztzG0GErOJ6QXVhFEPIh+srh9dpnwniMhdSw=; b=lEDsbWWf11GOTazN7ewE3aSbcnB9ASg/hpJGPuLNyeCI5TBWJDG8eohMnlFiKkQAky X5MgdOnlZr0zY1YcauaxhaV22ViPoPfxW9Mh4nNlEHGBpP0GI032RDVmhAEycnNrG5of Y9lgeXMmJT/mmqlhP/gDbCwAau9vkVB3S/vP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=LJeex3PP695xwiDAh0lF33J4ON+lX1mVStigCfrcEAuTTQpUERwF4yTbWcPqKmkmd+ NqoPk2BvMtPgqIKFjXYSR+yGBtBTyTmSwdOd1VxXznx8C2c4rjCiKcAnNf0D0NO6/QzC 61Ml/g3EjRGXodwYSbaQPvEgg/BHRTlh0ZnCQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:30:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: V7x-eslqKO8tYyDf7Z4js-XY9Zc Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1b7f5cf80b049e088a5b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:30:26 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b1b7f5cf80b049e088a5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND > > Mine would be: Drums: jaki leibeziet Bass: Jah Wobble Guitar : Me 2nd guitar (hidden offstage to make it looked like I did it) Bill Walker. Keyboards/Electronics : Helge Sten Vocals: Alison Shaw or Gibby Haynes or John Lennon or John Lydon or Danielle Dax Recording / Production: Holger Czukay -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51b1b7f5cf80b049e088a5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND



Mine would be:

Drums= : jaki leibeziet=A0

B= ass: Jah Wobble
Guitar : Me

2nd guitar (hidden offstage to make it looked like I did it) Bill Walke= r.

Keyboards/Electronics : Helge Sten

Vocals: Alison Shaw or Gibby Haynes or John Lennon or John Lydon or Dan= ielle Dax

Recording / Production: Holger Czukay




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--bcaec51b1b7f5cf80b049e088a5b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 08:56:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FDD4183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 124735.86848.bm@omp1007.mail.ird.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1299660965; bh=f35JLEyyFMaOAWX7y8hXuxOsqif+4bh530EYeocddGA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BFiVgDucnKrr5vsOgOP9C+djOyxwpnj3yR211S5PEkbH9qqGy62UYofJ6pDZGWre6d2hijwRjyhOSk1FHBXzPLZMub3jdVD2oRoYnhRqPpoYqo9ByEWeoXljzB3rGIbQ0kuPyrW3rBMjwAQS/6/kacGgmo6NOxrWjB51nQaTSfo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jSqTTtGCgb1rYxs+dyATbBXfBxFIIXoM9GWYC308nItOGbpIiY/hQW8l9UVQNH2nTy4Kh5085Hjy2MSwiZgSp5cxIPdlMwcJHi1hPb4sWJmZnIYRErB+J+2+yYVSIZNGYIpC1nfVSFDGaOURLd44dIDn7RqheHtdeowlXzAdDA0=; Message-ID: <887309.51974.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GAROdHQVM1n5pILs9szuZgPLEz.SyY0SdWm11xkAAKAbrEg ZQrMSW6vnZyK1zr4d.H7ICBDXRsvD_Ces.49z6SWXws2TCuIRn9z3uMuY5D_ ZhKnHq7t8p7NBG8lwzbLsnWBGCAGNV_oTAB_1d0ozKfvUZkc.RGfFTbhOD9m 15.OtMxRyKXvxMjLvzrylRo7X1D88Ztw8u9LlODdLPokdylXa1pBWGbdz4eH BUQmXS83EqB1dEThYXogC3oEKOQJmJLrpXwKQr78BkTwRw6UBXBW9wvKOF4S YX4vq X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:56:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:56:07 +0000 (UTC) --- On Wed, 9/3/11, mark francombe wrote:=0A=0ASub= ject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND=0A=0AGuitar : Me=0A=0A2nd guitar (hidden offsta= ge to make it looked like I did it) Bill Walker.=0A=0A=0ALOL!=0A=0A=0ABass:= Jah Wobble=0A=0ATerrific player, but at a recent gig, I saw him unexpected= ly give his guitarist quite a kicking mid-song. I'd love to know what he d= id to deserve this.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0AMark Francombe=0A=0A=0A= www.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0A=0A=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/user825= 094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no=0A=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 09:15:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F675183457; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6388BB4E34D945C8B818A165529BD618@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:15:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE42.DAECA220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110308-1, 08/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 4976759063907909298 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:15:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE42.DAECA220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you mark, i'm gonna try again.... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did it actually. = I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnected the A/B = channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between EDP and = Vortex.=20 I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the morph = switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and back = to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket... http://twitpic.com/47lej2 (See the two little switches in the top right?) One synchs the tap to the EDP one synchs the morph. I have to say that both dont work at the same time, its one OR the = other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph on the = other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then vortex = jumps back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade both = ways... GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>> But connecting the ground would be wrong. the ground is just the = ground. What you should be doing is connecting the signal to ground via = a capaciter, to smooth out (or is it to lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt = there a diode in there somewhere...? make sure that its round the right = way... they are always the bugger. Mark On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost wrote: Hi Mark, don't know what's wrong. i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the = capacitor. is that ok ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" = To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the = beat too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: Hi ! a question for Vortex and EDP owners: did one of you tried this : = http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm i tried but didn't manage to make it work... thanks boost --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE42.DAECA220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thank you mark, i'm gonna try=20 again....
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 = 11:58=20 PM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with=20 Echoplex

Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I = did it=20 actually.
I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I = disconnected=20 the A/B channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between = EDP and=20 Vortex.
I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and = the=20 morph switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, = and back=20 to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B = socket...

http://twitpic.com/47lej2
(See = the two=20 little switches in the top right?)
One synchs the tap to the EDP = one synchs=20 the morph.

I have to say that both dont work at the same time, = its one=20 OR the other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph = on the=20 other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then = vortex=20 jumps  back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade = both=20 ways...

GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>>
But = connecting the=20 ground would be wrong. the ground is just the ground. What you should = be doing=20 is connecting the signal to ground via a capaciter, to smooth out (or = is it to=20 lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in there somewhere...? make = sure=20 that its round the right way... they are always the=20 bugger.

Mark






On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Mark,
don't know what's wrong.
i connected the ground of both = jacks to=20 the ground connected to the capacitor.
is that ok ?

----- = Original=20 Message ----- From: "mark francombe" <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: = Tuesday,=20 March 08, 2011 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex



Sure...=20 Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the = beat
too..=20  Keep trying it's a great mod.

Sent from my = (advertisement=20 removed)

On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:

Hi=20 !
a question for Vortex and EDP owners:
did one of you = tried this=20 : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm
i=20 tried but didn't manage to make it=20 = work...
thanks
boost





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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE42.DAECA220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 09:46:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39944183462; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 590592238/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.16/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.16 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsBAG3bdk1V0r0Q/2dsb2JhbAAMmHLEEo1OhWUEj3Y X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,289,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="590592238" Message-ID: <4D774C87.1060403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:46:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Again this depends on the assumption that an exponential increase will extend "to infinity". In the history of the universe, no exponential increase ever did that yet. Look at the growth of any organism, in the early stages cell division is exponential, but there's no infinitely large carrot. andy Louie Angulo wrote: > here is a further interesting take on Kurzwell philosophy from my > previous thread. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK4gevQ5uqg > > cheers > Luis > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 10:20:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D056183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jAJTi7oJnT1Rt+/sjscCmBz3cpZs107HL7FGokH20sk=; b=H8AxdAY6w3//CtJaQ6CTGdS4xKLSOQ7XLAaJO+F0QgWDyZK8n3hdJGaL6EDjQ7Xydw DZ6bLGKgTsF2nDqucQJ3aZus6aeG9ujUeda4x9zgCUCOJzPb8JRXFe35/nF7l/7km2yk LNb2Vp7Y+Jgz4fXzYvMA9C+i9y8RHLOwGobpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EXFnPWL6zFe7LyOdABTVvAdYa1ElqA80EyHVAvLNSLgXB/wua0t5umdMVBB4kdS2+R PMfR8MOppYt4vylIFoGWSO6ufcf8J8AXIOav1d8ZyhZ9wUxIlu0WqXQWirSpoMDlksEL 77auW4ScNwl9vNsx3a5k5S4r8rk/X1kH3b6Yw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D774C87.1060403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D774C87.1060403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:20:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Interesting thoughts, Andy! I remember in the sixties when people were so scared about the growth of global population (of humans) as this growth had been measured to follow a progressive curve. Some futurists thought it would lead to "a demographic explosion" and a cruel Armageddon scenario. So what happened? Well, the global population growth curve simply stopped being progressive and found a new balance. I listened to the linked video and must say those guys did not seem to pick up on Kurzwell's extrapolation on the escalating progressive curve. They seemed to present a more probable future scenario. The main point, as I understand it, being the issue with different people experiencing access to information differently. Boosting the technical accessibility to "unlimited information" will not give the same result for every individual, because what comes out to a great deal depends on who is navigating this brand new super efficient synapse based interface. And as our brains learn pretty fast there will at some point be a progressive curve of people getting divided into classes. Classes with different abilities to digest and thrive on the brave new world. I can't see why you wouldn't agree to that future scenario. If looking around you may find that this process has already started. Not very bright outlook though, in many ways the antithesis to the present ideas of democracy and everyone's equal rights. I personally think knowledge and technology is good but I often miss the political perspective that could educate us in a way that we should be able to set the controls for a target we want and avoid less wanted scenarios. Per On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Again this depends on the assumption that an =C2=A0exponential increase w= ill > extend "to infinity". > > In the history of the universe, no exponential > increase ever did that yet. > > Look at the growth of any organism, > in the early stages cell division is exponential, > but there's no infinitely large carrot. > > andy > > > Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> here is a further interesting take on Kurzwell philosophy from my >> previous thread. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzK4gevQ5uqg >> >> cheers >> Luis >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 10:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1432818345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-09_05:2011-03-09,2011-03-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103090033 Message-id: <61205A71747E4BB1B5A40F7B63EAB334@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D774C87.1060403@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 02:44:10 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:44:14 +0000 (UTC) You guys are only scraping the surface of the current knowledge. Some books that would fill in what you're talking about include "On Intelligence" by Jeff Hawkins and "The Singularity is Near" by Kurzweil. Also Ben Goertzel is an AI guru--his blog is chock full of singularity stuff. It's probably good to mention that not everbody thinks like Ray. However, if an AI is constructed that is smarter than a human and can self improve all bets are off. Nobody knows what would be the result. I don't feel very flaky in mentioning this. Maybe 8 years ago I would feel weird believing that strong AI is coming but doing some(a lot) of deep reading about guys who are getting someplace (Hawkins for instance) has changed my mind. His figuring out that the brain process that is important is prediction, coupled with "invariant" object representations has convinced me. It ain't neural nets and genetic algorithms anymore. Those were way off the mark. They work for what they do but the brain doesn't work that way. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:20 AM Subject: Re: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) Interesting thoughts, Andy! I remember in the sixties when people were so scared about the growth of global population (of humans) as this growth had been measured to follow a progressive curve. Some futurists thought it would lead to "a demographic explosion" and a cruel Armageddon scenario. So what happened? Well, the global population growth curve simply stopped being progressive and found a new balance. I listened to the linked video and must say those guys did not seem to pick up on Kurzwell's extrapolation on the escalating progressive curve. They seemed to present a more probable future scenario. The main point, as I understand it, being the issue with different people experiencing access to information differently. Boosting the technical accessibility to "unlimited information" will not give the same result for every individual, because what comes out to a great deal depends on who is navigating this brand new super efficient synapse based interface. And as our brains learn pretty fast there will at some point be a progressive curve of people getting divided into classes. Classes with different abilities to digest and thrive on the brave new world. I can't see why you wouldn't agree to that future scenario. If looking around you may find that this process has already started. Not very bright outlook though, in many ways the antithesis to the present ideas of democracy and everyone's equal rights. I personally think knowledge and technology is good but I often miss the political perspective that could educate us in a way that we should be able to set the controls for a target we want and avoid less wanted scenarios. Per On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > Again this depends on the assumption that an exponential increase will > extend "to infinity". > > In the history of the universe, no exponential > increase ever did that yet. > > Look at the growth of any organism, > in the early stages cell division is exponential, > but there's no infinitely large carrot. > > andy > > > Louie Angulo wrote: >> >> here is a further interesting take on Kurzwell philosophy from my >> previous thread. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK4gevQ5uqg >> >> cheers >> Luis >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 11:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EAC9183463; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND X-AOL-IP: 75.25.97.215 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CDAC646ADFCAF1_17E0_3B44A_webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAC646ACF2151-17E0-17A2A@webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.25.97.215] Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:29:42 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:287389344:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca4d7764a8669d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:29:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CDAC646ADFCAF1_17E0_3B44A_webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Drums: Ronald Shannon Jackson Bass: Bill Lasswell Guitar: Bill Frisell Cello: Hank Roberts Trumpet: Jon Hassell PJ =20 ----------MB_8CDAC646ADFCAF1_17E0_3B44A_webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
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----------MB_8CDAC646ADFCAF1_17E0_3B44A_webmail-d071.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 11:49:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 135DA183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FAB/KQzCU/QS4fWRHbCEPHkm4e2BqmgM3DuVxJdfksI=; b=L8OhDDfMaLohYvd6B2EuB4DFqWj3WmJY78tFwWKUzhJfE1nHPs97b6twgOxfGtUMs6 /MarXskfKdKd2Nr1+c5ppGTsDfCWBsWbp5K+t2esIk+qdW5psRjz0ID9fNoEHzmJSBOF ppdid9BuYXDPLa4SrnT0bEf2d6kIrpyehtOaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bkbl+L/qfqYyP8o55kaCQl05p5Z3fSEFLIdxeufknJl+9AiDhQ/THdWcSLp+M0Ncy4 TPdI3++vkrkk+7paO1lh13+MtLlp+j4et5QYoBJ+pX0wqPSNWBEX6K6B/Yoe2f9/wudg k2P/eRC2J/YUzK7Brfep+VO2pVqMmb7IEFPEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <40DA6D54-8BA6-4CB5-9C6C-D8213AF956AF@mac.com> References: <40DA6D54-8BA6-4CB5-9C6C-D8213AF956AF@mac.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:49:46 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton with Mobius: realistic system requirements? From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:49:47 +0000 (UTC) So memory is king! I'll aim to get this machine up to 4gb then. Thanks Daniel. On 3/8/11, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Any motherboard processor combination > 2 ghz will do nicely. But plan o= n > an minimum 4 gb of ram for stable performance on a stage. > Good luck with it. > Daniel > > > > On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Akraf Emaho wrote: > >> Hello people, >> >> I've recently started exploring both Mobius and Ableton, with a view to >> eventually putting together a live act (prob a duo) playing acoustic, >> looped, Abletonised music. A kind of "acoustic house" you could call it= . >> Having read Rick's legendary percussion post and attached thread, I'm >> planning on doing everything live with no canned loops to really get a >> sense of fun and intimacy going on. The idea is to create the most funk= y, >> danceable, joyous vibe possible from just two mediocre musos and a >> laptop!!! :) >> >> Anyway: the present problem. My Pentium 4 2.66Ghz with 768MB of RAM can= 't >> handle Live 8 at all. I'm looking to upgrade it cheaply - I was thinkin= g >> maybe a second-hand Athlon x2 with motherboard from eBay (about =A340-= =A350 >> total). This would allow me to get 2+GB of DDR2, possibly free from a >> friend. The present motherboard will only take the much more expensive >> DDR flavour, which would be incompatible with any future upgrades anyway= . >> >> Will this be enough to run Ableton synced with Mobius while using effect= s, >> warping, groove engine etc in Ableton? I just need enough power to allo= w >> experimentation and writing/arranging some songs for this format for now= . >> >> Later on I can cross the bridge of needing a super-powerful laptop for t= he >> actual live performances. There's also the issue of an audio interface, >> but again that can wait for now: this will be done one painfully expensi= ve >> step at a time! >> >> Akraf >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 11:51:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E03C7183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=wc6nlLAlJ8oDvmqCWMro8ifgvQB6R2BVp/3iLPZQlPc=; b=KPMUt7l/+Dm6Z11nK80VH/4AgeSHEHQLk6QaYsXDzzpjua4016aDO8Owu7mSRkG3AF SDvKo3UCI9XGjxC0ShXXjw/ptBw497C3qetwAn8aOurdXHSzOumncfKoZmkmbpAuyRKE ovhc8rYQFUbEGxDzrCq9FTTYkk7PvoZC6saDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DDIRh9f2WuS8BKYchU829+qTeahi0WYUjTSa/QhvT43OZNLtKkgY8CaAo2jYfWranw 9JeuYH/wJ3FWVz0bYW0Jad9QwP5Fs6wovASAKlYdsssOMPY16HsGmA2Ig3e8aOaUfj47 Enelpz0Z+9iIP9mUOYJZ09u6XspizaKvF93Eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Ted, apart from that: > A lot of people I really like as individual musicians often would make > odd or even impossible pairings stylistically. a lot of people might also not work from a workplace chemistry point of view - I'd comment on that further on. Ok, horns is easy: Markus Stockhausen (tp), Mike Svoboda (tb). Both classically trained and with a big experience just being excellent sidemen (also coming from that classical background). But still with a lot of creativity to boot. rhythm section: Dave Lombardo (dr), Evelyn Glennie (perc), Trilok Gurtu (dr), Michael Manring (b). Glennie: classical background - perhaps too much of a soloist focus? Gurtu: most of his stuff as a sideman Lombardo: was never the leading creative force in the groups he played with, yet has a very diverse backgrond (Slayer, Patton, Zorn) Manring: great both as a normal bass player (see e.g. Yo Miles) and as a soloist - when he whips out the solo frenzy, Bach (see below) will do bass pedals. chordal instruments: Johann Sebastian Bach (keys, also bass pedals, loops) If not him, who should do melodic loops? David Fiuczinsky (g) vocals (if any): Mike Patton, for stylistic diversity and great stage personality (a true front man, if need be). me: doing electronic stuff and somewhat leading/composing for the group. If it needs to be limited to living persons, replace J.S. Bach with...mhhhm, don't know. Someone who is cool on odd synths and perhaps another odd thing - Kevin Kissinger? -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 11:53:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438E9183461; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D776A26.1060100@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:53:10 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:53:14 +0000 (UTC) MY FANTASY BAND: Drums: Brian Blade trading off with Jon Christensen (and two tunes with John Bonham) Bass Guitar: Mechelle Ndgecello trading off with Eberhard Weber and Mick Karn Guitar and effects: Eivind Aarset Lap Steel Guitar and Ambient effects: Bill Walker Trumpet and Atmospherics: Jon Hassell Utility Instrumentalist on anything they could agree to: Jon Brion and Mark Isham Everything else or Silence: myself Live Interactive Visuals: Tim Thompson, David Tristram, Phoenix Tows mixed by whoever the three of them could agree on. Mixed in real time by Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno with Michael Peters doing a secondary live, experimental remix of the proceedings that people in the audience could listen to through open air headphones broadcast, wirelessly through an FM receiver in such a way each audience member could mix the live sound with the experimental mix in their headphones to their own personal taste. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 14:08:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7AFF183463; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IPN2ze15FDJAaugbgv4ER5M2RobkVe6vCllJwzu7xdM=; b=w/SeoLvUeV646MTEiqSQaWxBXYbjCs0/d7aZM+7gYqq4TQjsZqkTGn4CbV7kNYQni+ WBu1T6J3yPxxoYllz+jOjNoccJkbWGiY/C+AsFTjW/WbHm4cRRV4qlCOYC/oVn6CtfJ7 lCVCuBZHEUcZOvSit0j0MQdF0tnMVlRyqSb2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Y8TCgAqYPNmKqn/cS1quNQOeJghPJaXpclBv4sYwtoTZG0lekz1VgvAGUJSpLnzCeq iSpQTwVNtbalyNn5ZycFn83d1IkJxy/fFBYLvbO0eu0avm2aj4y80H14DsGn4LPvxghl DfxLNgHy44umPyrFbhpQLD664k4JJzxMm0i3Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf16eae86191049e0d43b2 Resent-Message-ID: <0kEh4.A.yxC.nn4dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:08:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cdf16eae86191049e0d43b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 unfortunately, the audio switcher approach won't work. first of all, i don't always have an audio input. sometimes it do, but for the most part it's one (or more) of my four midi controllers. secondly, my layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from one to the other. i wonder if each layout (once it's finished, or at least in a ready-to-go state) could be grouped and thereby allow me to function in one layout for the duration of the performance. dunno if that'll work but maybe worth investigating. - jim --000e0cdf16eae86191049e0d43b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unfortunately, the audio switcher approach won't work.=A0 first of all,= i don't always have an audio input.=A0 sometimes it do, but for the mo= st part it's one (or more) of my four midi controllers.=A0 secondly, my= layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from one to the other= .=A0 i wonder if each layout (once it's finished, or at least in a read= y-to-go state) could be grouped and thereby allow me to function in one lay= out for the duration of the performance.=A0 dunno if that'll work but m= aybe worth investigating.=A0

- jim
--000e0cdf16eae86191049e0d43b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 14:15:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA18B183461; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587063719/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An0CAPcZd01V0rNq/2dsb2JhbAAMmHTSKYVlBI92 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,290,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587063719" Message-ID: <4D778B8B.1040907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:15:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Interpreting the Singularity (O.T.) References: <4D774C87.1060403@tiscali.co.uk> <61205A71747E4BB1B5A40F7B63EAB334@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <61205A71747E4BB1B5A40F7B63EAB334@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0o7nJB.A.HCD.Ku4dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Toby G wrote: > You guys are only scraping the surface of the current knowledge. Don't know how you concluded that. That 'singularity' thing isn't knowledge 'till you actually present the giant carrot. > Some > books that would fill in what you're talking about include "On > Intelligence" by Jeff Hawkins > and "The Singularity is Near" by > Kurzweil. > Also Ben Goertzel is an AI guru--his blog is chock full of > singularity stuff. It's probably good to mention that not everbody > thinks like Ray. here's Goertzel pointing out that the "exponential curve" may flatten out: "Of course, this sort of extrapolation is by no means certain. Among many counterarguments, one might argue that the inertia of human systems will cause the rate of technological progress to flatten out at a certain point." (from an abstract quoted in his blog) > > However, if an AI is constructed that is smarter than a human like "wouldn't spend time on OT discussions on a mailing list" kind of smart? Thing is, before we can say "more intelligent than human" we have to define intelligence, and then find a way of rating it. > and can > self improve all bets are off. Nobody knows what would be the result. > I don't feel very flaky in mentioning this. Maybe 8 years ago I would > feel weird believing that strong AI is coming but doing some(a lot) of > deep reading about guys who are getting someplace (Hawkins for instance) > has changed my mind. His figuring out that the brain process that is > important is prediction, coupled with "invariant" object representations > has convinced me. Which sounds a lot more interesting than the singularity stuff. You wanna elucidate? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 14:41:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E837183461; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:15:56 +0900 Subject: Re: Roger O'Donnell From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Roger O'Donnell Thread-Index: AcveMjbXIJlQBYvaQweGiWepdHKa4g== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:41:41 +0000 (UTC) On 3/8/11 7:23 AM, "Petri Lahtinen" wrote: > 2011/3/7 Dustbunnies >> >> http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ > > :-D > > a simple google search should be appropriate Yep, that's how I found it: typed in "glitch sequencer" and it was the first result to come up. Although, to be fair, I already knew it was out there. Somebody (maybe Richard Devine) posted the URL to Twitter a few months ago, so I'd already downloaded it and played around a bit. I was merely surprised you guys were having a bit of difficulty locating it. :) It's an interesting enough program, though. I might come back around to it when I've got some spare time. Have fun!!! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:08:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B55183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:07:56 +0900 Subject: Re: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Eventide Timefactor further discoveries/NEW PURCHASES; tc flashback & rp355 Thread-Index: Acvea8UbHVUUKtTzSuOok8B/PfH8IQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:07:59 +0000 (UTC) On 3/9/11 1:13 AM, "Scott Hansen" wrote: > > i just bought a tc electronics flashback delay! > i think the looper is 10 sec-which for me is plenty of time, since i generally > use short delay loops as of late. Scott, Care to do a quick review of the Flashback when you get up to speed? I've seen one of TC's demos for it, and thought it looked pretty interesting. The one thing I was most curious about is whether Feedback was active during Loop Mode, or if they implemented Looping in the same stupid manner as Digitech and most fo the Boss RC units. Otherwise, the demos sound pretty darn nice.... --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:28:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D10418345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z0XYzVzdp/nchRumtoNutLfGHAh8jK4MaUC8dDyVuO0=; b=BWDW9cjok3a/0B7ToNV5vF+oVU0UBSfPvTLoqmkTl6IPE4dc5KZ9X0b1Rmts/Z9/Xo zyIsh2qZfqF4S8QQ8mK3lxxXJyVWAFcEsa2Tguu8FvVo/KVE7QSvBffXaMvW3ACgJ95y byn37zpZnujDNmWB9CapcrFhS+5Ng4HigXIwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JCVtDO1AG3q9CORzhwZR2Yu2v/RL1JF/o7hsqhFngsQ/X0dqQEZWi/FqlaKxwgNNNB amU9/4EkdaZGUEHtUeD8y5c8kWKArOHaHi7mY27EcwtFTn+p+XVvl3BEMn30BkI++YRH wxrRBN+aOp9NGeA/Xilimc+VxR5iHwgnuMdPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:28:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with FCB1010,found it! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2xGw.A.RQF.Iy5dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Ok Per i finally found it,but i do have to correct your statment and add a couple of important things here to save headaches for anybody trying to do this: So In order for a plugin like amplitube or guitar rig to be controlled inside ableton: The main confusion i see people are having trying to do this is not only activating "monitor in" but also arming both audio and midi tracks for recording,this are 2 different things. considering you know the other stuff like setting your soundcards inputs outputs,scanning your plugin and setiing its preferences as well, inserting the plugin in the arrangement view and setting its ins and outs which Per already mentioned in this thread go to Ableton preferences and under the menu " record warp lauch " deselect "arm" and "solo " under "exclusive" this will enable you to am record both audio and midi tracks,otherwise you will only be able to arm one at a time. yo do have to have the" monitor in" activated in both tracks to hear the input and outputs as Per mentioned,BUT: even more important is that you have to arm both tracks for "recording" to be able to send midi information from your footcontroller to the midi track and back to the audio track. now you can turn stomp boxes on and off in the plugin within ableton and loop the sounds in its little looper and have a groove sample of your choice stretch to your tempo voilai!!! this is what ive been trying to do syncing mobius and ableton lately,but after messing around i chose abletons looper at the end to do this,there is a trade off offcourse,abletons looper is not as flexible as Mobius but slaving Ableton to Mobius doesnt work too good. However in abletons little looper you still have multiply important options like,undo,redo,speed,shift,reverse,quantization,drag loop option ot the session view to create multiple parts,wow im impressed what this baby looper has to offer and very excited to start experimenting with! cheers Luis On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Luis, > > It should work also for Amplitube on an Auido Track. I just tried that > here now and can assure you it works (when I kick my expression pedal > on the floor the MIDI CC# goes through the MIDI track into the Audio > Track and the Amplitube plugin gets the message - i.e. MIDI Learn > working ok). > > Maybe you simply did not set the Live Track's Monitor toggle to "In"? > With any real-time live data routing in Live you should set the > Monitor to "In". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Hi Per, >> I tried what you suggested,inserting amplitube into abletons audio >> track then bridging it into a midi track but still amplitube does not >> respond to the behrigner at all.However,when i insert amplitube into a >> midi track it responds to the midi comands without a problem. >> I also tried using amplitube as stand alone and trying to record into >> abletons built in looper but the fx dont get recorded,is there a way >> to do it that way? >> My goal is just to use this software guitar fx plugin and loop with >> the built in looper in ableton,jesus that should work a lot easier,no? >> or is amplitube making it complicated so people buy their fottcontroller= ? >> Luis >> >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo >>> wrote: >>>> The plugin is still not responding to the midi learn,how do you setup >>>> the host(Ableton) to submit my esxternal midi input? >>>> In ableton i have under preferences,midi sync- =A0my RME as the input >>> >>> You shouldn't select the RME MIDI In port a "Input for Control >>> Surface" unless you own and really want to use a natively supported >>> control surface. Better leave all slots empty in that upper section. >>> >>>> do i have to install the fcb1010 as a control surface? >>> No. That would no be possible anyway, as the FCB1010 is not supported >>> for native control. >>> >>>> port-track-sync-remote all turned on,any ideas? >>> >>> *TRACK* is what matters in this case. Make sure the RME is "On" in the >>> Track column (lower region of GUI). (related: *Remote* should be >>> active if you want to MIDI Learn directly in Live from the RME Port. >>> *Sync" should be active if you want to send or receive a sync signal. >>> >>> Ok, so far Live pref's. No go to the Session View in your session and >>> create an extra MIDI Track. Set that MIDI Track's input to fetch MIDI >>> from the RME port and set that track's output to shuffle that MIDI to >>> the track where the Amplitube 3 plugin is inserted and also targeted >>> directly into the plugin. >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:46:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B3A18345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: bidule users - live usage & "presets" Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01CBDE79.78E84C50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acvebrm+Sa7lhpJ6Q0q4rcefA4QzlgAAhnkQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:46:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CBDE79.78E84C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > my layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from one to the other same here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes when I open another layout while one is already open. They say this is due to the poor programming and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I use. This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin idea. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CBDE79.78E84C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> my layouts are on the = massive side=20 and are quite varied from one to the other 
 
same here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule = crashes=20 when I open another layout while one is already open. They say this is = due to=20 the poor programming  and memory handling of one or more of the = plugins I=20 use. <sigh>  This seems to be a downside of the modular = plugin=20 idea.
 
-Michael
 
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CBDE79.78E84C50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:52:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE5C183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:52:27 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAC891FDE19D3-1BD4-1C884@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:52:41 +0000 (UTC) THE BERNHARDS : bernhard wagner, bill walker, me.....but it seems i=20 have already been kicked out of this band! BIG SIGH!..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:55:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C32118345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lhGtwAZfHO1261En3/ZCB8WjLoRDbQAjXT7O/BjeN+M=; b=rWBAdShp/B8hC2O8rrkf2A7xg3T1KR3rcS8oZJis/kFPGUNZFJ99qc/nwAjJFiYcMx 4Mn/3VA3qN254I+DG+4vIhFgBKiFEc+THUBvvSsw2lQL7qFuvcet5pKfAWcpXX2nPdMh n3GMBV9TqVfMxPWiF5ETua/+nqmSHJiOFQXzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZOXt724XSB4xafV1218lc0/CDUxR9uBiQIJle6TY/b603Y/r0l+Py+thP9E9sLwSvi Ym9Dn4B4fpfZpKet66t5e2pwLmUEYkw8EV/1e5h2MVyaod80nLVVJBJZEm4hIjeNH3w5 5f7hOU4zfcyXtOUvEjrhiOfxdBniZclqKbN8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:55:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: controlling amplitube 3 with FCB1010,found it! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:55:30 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > So In order for a plugin like amplitube or guitar rig to be controlled > inside ableton: > The main confusion i see people are having trying to do this is not > only activating "monitor in" but also arming both audio and midi > tracks for recording,this are 2 different things. Sorry for not mentioning that. That's not just how Live works but also true for many other DAW host apps. Without arming, no through-put. Just like on a taper recorder :-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 15:58:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD9C183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pGoFejJ6d9lwYoMeJ+ytND3Jj7kTY0OclxkkcRjXpRk=; b=VnduWva7WwGvYws7jFycR18Vh+iSgbzQ4LuvPDIyycdOPxnEyVnL5hUNRAcJW+1ilH M5djJ6qol8mMU+N8Tv3a/sjdyfW0Mpn7dHhebf7uSxtRyKz4lohLpdV2PIdaDf3GFnUq QpOQBLzY8LHYIhs5fZCe4W5lmQiyIC9D0HOmg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=gOxS2OKAkfzIUAIUVvhZYyELz9WrWF935x2+HkqiUuiF03Kx/mUYshPlhscPMXkDcO gtODftyujgqwmBdJs3jT6LY8AJovd04rDAnkiBCqloCd2Xh+HiHI3kTx+q5f4/g3XnwI falKv7Yf3PEDCC0bjHeI+K6yKcX++oOdmZpHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:58:36 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56f683d9d7e049e0ecd14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:58:38 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56f683d9d7e049e0ecd14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 michael, have you tried hitting the little button that stops the audio at the top of the layout window before opening another layout? it might work, i havn't tried it myself sim On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > > my layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from one to the > other > > same here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes when I > open another layout while one is already open. They say this is due to the > poor programming and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I use. > This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin idea. > > -Michael > > --000e0cd56f683d9d7e049e0ecd14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable michael, have you tried hitting the little button that stops the audio at t= he top of the layout window before opening another layout?

it might = work, i havn't tried it myself

sim

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> = my layouts are on the massive side=20 and are quite varied from one to the other=A0
=A0
same here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes=20 when I open another layout while one is already open. They say this is due = to=20 the poor programming=A0 and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I= =20 use. <sigh>=A0 This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin=20 idea.
=A0
-Mich= ael
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--000e0cd56f683d9d7e049e0ecd14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 16:03:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 667FA183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=No/0Y1BWZPA5Zikyg3l4IAMZbSLjjCpDm8l1M+gelfU=; b=KDgF/IoUWMne90xTelo/nupnAuoJnetQ+WxgjgsnAjfAfugVi22H2Gl2KrhY7O0GKU YpBdUal1ACj12qygv2lCziPbiLMH4vaFHr59a5moIDbykm8YpnjewsnFlb/GmXnE9YzA HWEAPqcVOp51RFNbF7tAunWUWkQGROxRxGlY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LR99vVe8I+5vCi+t8F/6dwRtXgSm+wo0JU+ta5o3C/kfJlGTZlVli57CiZ9IpuvFMh zwGWSBuDLDw5gvsQv/fqWfLKciMQEVr3ayJUb8dh6KatuR6nbPLXntZgY8mFcAz6jRc7 YWW+MguPIS6d4NNlEee+w/PzNEWpiZ1+XSz88= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:03:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9m4HoD.A.xwG.CT6dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:03:14 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM, james fowler wrote: > unfortunately, the audio switcher approach won't work.=C2=A0 first of all= , i > don't always have an audio input. I too made that false assumption first. The name "Audio Switcher" may be misleading because it works even without an audio through-put. I have used that technique in Bidule setups to activate and deactivate huge systems of MIDI driven software instruments and effect plugins. Just look at it as an advanced and totally programmable "on/off button" :-)) If you "don't know", just set up a small pilot test for five minutes to see how it works. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 16:27:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4356183457; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B0OUP3/p0KS8DwW5UJtYUS1GENCluVwwX8Pow0nNHCE=; b=NNY1aiAHSuuiE/3IN6sQEe5hm3I5XubRR0QIiJJAJbVku0VAseSNouqy5zMJAU4uOz UwkLf1Zhu3k8Lz/6OMQpMaNu9L1LwwKRWRHXFOns1WIZNPuUn+4bdmpkHigukoNDu84Z Qnwn2FolUjkVlzHK5RB/Z6jr0qX8HbbSyb+l4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qQ01PNHyMgcZYFChC4nrPLuvXdGphth/xYe/R98GAehUhCnsqYz501HIW8fSJe9AaN DYZ3cZsmg3WDISB4Ad22PUywimCZuqkIfVONoqr7yj5Y8OV8vx01p+TutbAgBaJkQ9BB V2vMog7uhwOuieacCiapx7LrXQ0yEdX2p6f38= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:26:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec50162b7a7978d049e0f32dd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:27:00 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec50162b7a7978d049e0f32dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Same behaviour here. Loading some layouts will causes a crash, indipendently by the audio engine being switched on or off. -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/3/9 Simeon Harris > michael, have you tried hitting the little button that stops the audio at > the top of the layout window before opening another layout? > > it might work, i havn't tried it myself > > sim > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> > my layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from one to >> the other >> >> same here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes when I >> open another layout while one is already open. They say this is due to the >> poor programming and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I use. >> This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin idea. >> >> -Michael >> >> > > --bcaec50162b7a7978d049e0f32dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Same behaviour here.
Loading some layouts=A0will causes=A0a crash, indipendently by the aud= io engine being switched on or off.
=A0
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=A0
2011/3/9 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com= >
michael, have you tried hitting = the little button that stops the audio at the top of the layout window befo= re opening another layout?

it might work, i havn't tried it myself

sim=20


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Michael Peters <= span dir=3D"ltr"><mp@= mpeters.de> wrote:
> = my layouts are on the massive side and are quite varied from = one to the other=A0
=A0
same = here. I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes when I open a= nother layout while one is already open. They say this is due to the poor p= rogramming=A0 and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I use. <= sigh>=A0 This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin idea.<= /span>
=A0
-Mich= ael
=A0


--bcaec50162b7a7978d049e0f32dd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 17:05:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A19183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:05:10 +0900 Subject: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Dustbunnies To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... Thread-Index: AcvefCWzS9tTpZtgRC2rMYk/t47/3w== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3zvlXC.A.cI.KN7dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Been meaning to post this for a bit, but have only now gotten around to it: http://www.ehx.com/products/killswitch With all the talk in the past of slicer- and SUS-type effects, I'm surprised this hasn't come up yet. Killswitch allows you to create gated or slicer effects by simply tapping on its momentary switch. Of course, we can already do that by using Bill's Korg Tuner hack (amongst others), but the Killswitch goes a bit further. First, you can switch the polarity at the twist of a dial. In one position, it allows all signal to pass naturally, then kills it when the pedal is depressed. At the other extreme, no signal passes at all until you press the switch. Additionally, it incorporates an effect loop so that, if desired, you can route the signal to another effect chain, rather than muting it. That means that you can apply effects to only the notes that are played while you are holding down the switch. You can, for instance, apply distortion to every third note by tapping in threes, or send only the final note of a solo to a delay unit. This loop-chain behavior can also be reversed (sending all audio through the effect loop unless you're pressing the switch) so it would be easy to set up a mass of repeating echos as a bed, then use the switch to route the signal unaffected as you solo over it, for example. I swear EHX must have been eavesdropping on my ranting here, or countless other forums, for a unit exactly like this. It's almost 100% like what I've designed/requested quite a few times in the past, but never had the skills to build myself (I tend to set things on fire if you give me a soldering iron). Best part, it's only $45 USD... cheap! A simple but extremely useful little tool, I can hardly wait for them to release it over here in Japan. Sounds like it could lead to some serious sonic entertainment. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 17:18:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97CE4183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DXz3rOtisXMXxwW3bTOsFNCeqFEVXJH+b8AXliAltSU=; b=H7+C/mBmlMRYfyDdEir8SJq2EKaOE+STkEgv9RXUiytK7Q03bW4rg1UHzqF7njFs0D 1Q5Ds530vBtuDmtqTpgT4oiWH75eu+sXWdTnuZ4XjbO8lMCzXUEV1EVyQJFiBUl18/mr HRzOahW8Yn6S6WndPe//WxnS90NT5dzWNHXl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WQc5aHl2S+XpN8IlLp1L12PAmxtDVrCwwHn8UXnCWDgEPmVqAmCFrI2lJb6PxBUGDP xz2g3eu3U1jYJKZOKj53qslootT4gBtNFGVlRhjlKLUANcHzO8YS8PpOvc2eY4eKgJ2C DU0mLo+19A4mFC7cNKAEtBDouG9TqqUwjCo2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307abde963cde4049e0feab4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307abde963cde4049e0feab4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post the details? I am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a half way idea with the parts from Radio Shack. j On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > Been meaning to post this for a bit, but have only now gotten around to it: > > http://www.ehx.com/products/killswitch > > With all the talk in the past of slicer- and SUS-type effects, I'm > surprised > this hasn't come up yet. > > Killswitch allows you to create gated or slicer effects by simply tapping > on > its momentary switch. Of course, we can already do that by using Bill's > Korg Tuner hack (amongst others), but the Killswitch goes a bit further. > > > > --m. > > --20cf307abde963cde4049e0feab4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post= the details? I am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a = half way idea with the parts from Radio Shack.

j

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
Been meaning to post this for a bit, but have only now gotten around to it:=

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.ehx.com/products/killswitch

With all the talk in the past of slicer- and SUS-type effects, I'm surp= rised
this hasn't come up yet.

Killswitch allows you to create gated or slicer effects by simply tapping o= n
its momentary switch. =A0Of course, we can already do that by using Bill= 9;s
Korg Tuner hack (amongst others), but the Killswitch goes a bit further.


=A0 =A0--m.


--20cf307abde963cde4049e0feab4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 17:34:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45DA2183457; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 308 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:34:28 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mta5.brinkster.com From: "CM" To: Subject: The Sound of Pi Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:28:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000901cbde7f$71c01e20$55405a60$@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBDE3C.639DC880" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Acvef1zxUZ5KzBFBR7+Mz/vihJ23Qg== Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBDE3C.639DC880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some looped musical fun for the math nerds out there: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948828 C ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBDE3C.639DC880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Some = looped musical fun for the math nerds out there:

http://www.collegehumo= r.com/video:1948828

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CBDE3C.639DC880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 17:53:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40D11183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:53:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:53:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE8B.440D8BF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110309-0, 09/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 13730630839657873074 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:53:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE8B.440D8BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI Mark, i tried again today but it didn't work... explain me what do you mean by "ground is just the ground" ? to wich ground is connected the capacitor ? to the ground of the input = jack ? i don't understand what's wrong... thanks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did it actually. = I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnected the A/B = channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between EDP and = Vortex.=20 I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the morph = switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and back = to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket... http://twitpic.com/47lej2 (See the two little switches in the top right?) One synchs the tap to the EDP one synchs the morph. I have to say that both dont work at the same time, its one OR the = other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph on the = other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then vortex = jumps back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade both = ways... GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>> But connecting the ground would be wrong. the ground is just the = ground. What you should be doing is connecting the signal to ground via = a capaciter, to smooth out (or is it to lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt = there a diode in there somewhere...? make sure that its round the right = way... they are always the bugger. Mark On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost wrote: Hi Mark, don't know what's wrong. i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the = capacitor. is that ok ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" = To: Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the = beat too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: Hi ! a question for Vortex and EDP owners: did one of you tried this : = http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm i tried but didn't manage to make it work... thanks boost --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE8B.440D8BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI Mark,
i tried again today but it didn't=20 work...
explain me what do you mean by "ground = is just the=20 ground" ?
to wich ground is connected the = capacitor ? to the=20 ground of the input jack ?
i don't understand what's = wrong...
thanks
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 = 11:58=20 PM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with=20 Echoplex

Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I = did it=20 actually.
I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I = disconnected=20 the A/B channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between = EDP and=20 Vortex.
I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and = the=20 morph switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, = and back=20 to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B = socket...

http://twitpic.com/47lej2
(See = the two=20 little switches in the top right?)
One synchs the tap to the EDP = one synchs=20 the morph.

I have to say that both dont work at the same time, = its one=20 OR the other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph = on the=20 other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then = vortex=20 jumps  back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade = both=20 ways...

GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>>
But = connecting the=20 ground would be wrong. the ground is just the ground. What you should = be doing=20 is connecting the signal to ground via a capaciter, to smooth out (or = is it to=20 lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in there somewhere...? make = sure=20 that its round the right way... they are always the=20 bugger.

Mark






On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Mark,
don't know what's wrong.
i connected the ground of both = jacks to=20 the ground connected to the capacitor.
is that ok ?

----- = Original=20 Message ----- From: "mark francombe" <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: = Tuesday,=20 March 08, 2011 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex



Sure...=20 Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the = beat
too..=20  Keep trying it's a great mod.

Sent from my = (advertisement=20 removed)

On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:

Hi=20 !
a question for Vortex and EDP owners:
did one of you = tried this=20 : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm
i=20 tried but didn't manage to make it=20 = work...
thanks
boost





--
Mark=20 Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no
twitter=20 @markfrancombe
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CBDE8B.440D8BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 18:10:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D174183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:10:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Sound of Pi From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b3973ea5347fa1e049e10a6a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:10:54 +0000 (UTC) --485b3973ea5347fa1e049e10a6a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The microsound mailing list has an almost-every-year project by its members to produce music based on pi. I contributed a couple of pieces when it started in 2003: http://www.microsound.org/projects/project.php?name=pi%20day%202003 The pull-down menu at the very top-right of that page lets you see subsequent years. ...Tim... --485b3973ea5347fa1e049e10a6a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The microsound mailing list has an almost-every-year project by its members= to produce music based on pi. =A0I contributed a couple of pieces when it = started in 2003:


The pull-down menu at the very top-right of that page l= ets you see subsequent years.

=A0=A0...Tim... --485b3973ea5347fa1e049e10a6a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 18:31:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C4B183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_6nP0IIG75SMbxLAGr6QGIA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-09_07:2011-03-09,2011-03-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103090118 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: The Sound of Pi Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:31:10 -0800 In-reply-to: <000901cbde7f$71c01e20$55405a60$@asyouthink.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000901cbde7f$71c01e20$55405a60$@asyouthink.com> Message-id: <5BED21B9-53D3-49D7-9987-5EDC809AB6CC@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:31:28 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_6nP0IIG75SMbxLAGr6QGIA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT This makes my inner nerd all damp and misty.. daniel On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:28 AM, CM wrote: > Some looped musical fun for the math nerds out there: > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948828 > > C --Boundary_(ID_6nP0IIG75SMbxLAGr6QGIA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This makes my inner nerd all damp and = misty..

daniel 
On Mar 9, 2011, at = 9:28 AM, CM wrote:

Some looped musical fun for = the math nerds out there:
On= Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrot= e:
This makes my inner nerd all damp and misty..

=
daniel=A0

On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:28 AM, CM wrote:

Some looped musical fun for the math nerds out there:<= /div>
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--000e0cd517c8b9df01049e1104dc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:23:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97E1A183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=IoUFhzp2mDTPofTi7WbzBDXdj9OO6Y4R6pCevRfnVec=; b=Y8Ob13fEWEKqU1o/4xWa1eCrFobtptrdNnyIpOwAxQ/PMjK+fcQJCjEEb5O8ef9khA 4Je5gu+VH9Jvg75LkuSosx4AWrU761idJCKdl3hR1ZjTY3QCEPZbO2kGFws3patZU5CM YQVYaxzTcZR2fTG51L1OwQXLoN9g9HqfYrIwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=X/FO+WwVKS3z344GgmYlka7nCkjitIc6xIvt9ePTZIZMmi5mER5utPPM/7SqTuk1Ij dsm3WELmBs3MCfIuEU3CsAtvOuhoxL3KN3PXxkrLXorSJpiN7qI4vDVxk3gY4w6XwkZp HSaT2ZkJK1TrKZgbM0LxVB+zEK3VYEAuUGdGQ= Message-ID: <4D77D3C2.3090608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:23:46 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBXaWVybm93b2xza2k=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Sound of Pi References: <000901cbde7f$71c01e20$55405a60$@asyouthink.com> In-Reply-To: <000901cbde7f$71c01e20$55405a60$@asyouthink.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010606080600050502030407" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:23:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010606080600050502030407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, Pi is very special to mathematicians, but when it comes to making music there is a better one - Mi (like Music). The decimal representation of Mi consists of all subsequent natural numbers: 0.123456789101112131415161718192021..... This irrational number contains binary representations of all musical masterpieces that has been written in the past, are being created now or will be created in the future! (And a lot of other sh*t.) I mean, when you put it through a DAC you would get all possible kinds of sounds ever. There is one catch - you need a lot of time.... really a lot... like eternity... As our lifetime is limited, I would rather suggest to create your masterpieces in a more musical way:) Regards, Michał (Mathematician, the inventor of Mi) > Some looped musical fun for the math nerds out there: > > http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948828 > > C > --------------010606080600050502030407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, Pi is very special to mathematicians, but when it comes to making music
there is a better one - Mi (like Music).
The decimal representation of Mi consists of all subsequent natural numbers:
0.123456789101112131415161718192021.....

This irrational number contains binary representations of all musical masterpieces
that has been written in the past, are being created now or will be created in the future!
(And a lot of other sh*t.)
I mean, when you put it through a DAC you would get all possible kinds of sounds ever.
There is one catch - you need a lot of time.... really a lot...   like eternity...
As our lifetime is limited, I would rather suggest to create your
masterpieces in a more musical way:)

Regards,
Michał
(Mathematician, the inventor of Mi)

Some looped musical fun for the math nerds out there:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948828

 

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--------------010606080600050502030407-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:25:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42282183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:25:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Duke CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6c0dW.A.KlD.4Q9dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:25:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote about Duke Sexton's post > "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post the > details? I am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a > half way idea with the parts from Radio Shack. Two of my favorite musicians and posters on this group.............the Dukes!!!!! Let us now pray to the powers that be that they put somewhat quite buttons on this puppy. While we're at it.............why, oh why, can't someone invent a QUIET yet durable momentary or latched switch button. .............drum hardware people had this sorted out years ago.............teflon bushings, baby!!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:37:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE335183460; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D77D713.9060901@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:37:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) References: <8CDAC891FDE19D3-1BD4-1C884@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDAC891FDE19D3-1BD4-1C884@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <16rFH.A.b_D.Wc9dNB@arsenic> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:37:58 +0000 (UTC) ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, is it okay to have two fantasy bands? .....perhaps, because, between million selling debut and sophomore records, we all get bored with all the traveling, press junkets, money and groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side project. My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band (with people who can also double on other instruments): THE DUKES of NOISE Jeff Duke on electric guitar Duke Sexton on electric guitar Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos Stan Card on guitar feedback Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a few cents detuned from every other D) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:38:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D914218345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_df8a25e0-e171-4a4e-b47e-fae9c61d78ed_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.234.157] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:38:50 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> References: ,<4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2011 19:38:51.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E2FFB80:01CBDE91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:38:52 +0000 (UTC) --_df8a25e0-e171-4a4e-b47e-fae9c61d78ed_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that live music is often VERY F*KING LOUD!! So it never occurs to the designers to invent something as subtle as quiet = switches =3B-) If you read Harmony Central reviews it seems that most=2C (guitarists at le= ast)=2C seem to spend their time kicking pedals around the stage and spilli= ng beer on them before allowing them to drop out of the back of the van on = their way home after a gig... It's all a bit testosteronial if you ask me.= =20 I've always liked my zoom 8080 plastic=2C(silent) switches and plastic peda= ls which have been with me all around the UK=2C Europe=2C Japan and over to= the USA - and STILL working a treat =2C (though superceded for sheer lovel= iness by the line6 M13). Peace G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 11:25:38 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: jeffloops@gmail.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Jeff Duke wrote about Duke Sexton's post > > "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post the=20 > > details? I am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a=20 > > half way idea with the parts from Radio Shack. > Two of my favorite musicians and posters on this group.............the=20 > Dukes!!!!! >=20 > Let us now pray to the powers that be that they put somewhat quite=20 > buttons on this puppy. >=20 > While we're at it.............why=2C oh why=2C can't someone invent a QU= IET=20 > yet durable momentary or latched switch button. > .............drum hardware people had this sorted out years=20 > ago.............teflon bushings=2C baby!!!!!!! >=20 >=20 > rick walker >=20 = --_df8a25e0-e171-4a4e-b47e-fae9c61d78ed_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that live music is often VERY F*KING LOUD!!
So it never occ= urs to the designers to invent something as subtle as quiet switches =3B-)<= br>If you read Harmony Central reviews it seems that most=2C (guitarists at= least)=2C seem to spend their time kicking pedals around the stage and spi= lling beer on them before allowing them to drop out of the back of the van = on their way home after a gig... It's all a bit testosteronial if you ask m= e.
I've always liked my zoom 8080 plastic=2C(silent) switches and plast= ic pedals which have been with me all around the UK=2C Europe=2C Japan and = over to the USA - and STILL working a treat =2C (though superceded for shee= r loveliness by the line6 M13).

Peace

G



Sentie= ntfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



>=3B Date: W= ed=2C 9 Mar 2011 11:25:38 -0800
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>= =3B To: jeffloops@gmail.com
>=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
>=3B Subject: Re: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch...
>=3B
>= =3B On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Jeff Duke wrote about Duke Sexton's post
>= =3B >=3B "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post th= e
>=3B >=3B details? I am making one or I at least have some parts = laid out and a
>=3B >=3B half way idea with the parts from Radio Sh= ack.
>=3B Two of my favorite musicians and posters on this group......= .......the
>=3B Dukes!!!!!
>=3B
>=3B Let us now pray to th= e powers that be that they put somewhat quite
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= --_df8a25e0-e171-4a4e-b47e-fae9c61d78ed_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:46:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C128F18345F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299699997; bh=AXOHtvTj6l53rhfTTatm7NQHXiZ+kHu6LqVt6bRbGZA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yi4tklNP85Rz71aXhP3mPmpVcJIdWQ8esaAFZVtcartpl6bwWiUmUJVfI7ExoPbHtarQ/v+DIMySPMX+EX4tCetA31mWSy3Jp6dzoLu+DYcsdR29uRrF+dD+mkE2gFYKMa7oodbBM8PIi+kiAVJHO0pypNVuNaqlm5HS0AG9kZg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IkGOQqSXBKVMVkT5OY0IYLbrSqLocRGOoT1OB0FFmcQYL4yhL0uDPv2ocT1F1bNGCfcq83gxCtKt2+e3dY0vyo3CdFLyTDNdGYbMOO6u2XSLMne4SMF5Hn8Ti2sRz+ox7dlBrtZdqs/FfhV+1XyOsKNPmZOvLgSJiylR9Ii2mgA=; Message-ID: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hMHgWaUVM1m4GSy1W83qIcgqlOUVihLmCvoPtg3TnoeEgxL f.wMaoqxJxo9RcjjKFLkfEx1_xPUjfKudx4iYmZ2q9PNUICyWOHS8nxPsbCZ TGY5OBUMma9u2kMqftgJ6y9ROEhDgMpiy4x8oMqr8bRk8y7K.Cpus4ryLDJM xCZbBSGf3F3VAZ_5NjIE6JrQxtI0Uec6sYPUOC_0eWkofUNJQS71jUfdTFaP VAFd85w2KFf_KiwXm4xivmuIXnzesFVEAP0TRA4lsCQEv6aSL5PrG3HRK0KJ fd.s3Tu2KNvqt1NHJJk2Y7CDsV_j7NxB9mV2.CvI7hNTX5gfHMNMmGluo9R6 I4fAD9OfefX7mWOmfUBWLrS6Qlzyt2WcwKAFX4Ea2bpKUR6Nl_5DMtV.RIOH IDzSKvraA80OofiKJa4gNptJSttyGWugwtrM7dWNbj9oTf1ZkUQxz.iHEPcB N1vGu6g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:46:37 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: new boss pedal! To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1804299877-1299699997=:78426" Resent-Message-ID: <4W-M1B.A.nYE.ek9dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:46:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-1804299877-1299699997=:78426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for a lot= of people... =A0 http://www.muziekhuisdacapo.nl/producten_detail.asp?productId=3D1195&groepI= d=3D6&subGroepId=3D21 =A0 =A0 ted h. Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* felt= . Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want to h= ear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got nothin t= o do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourse= lf. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"=0A=0A --0-1804299877-1299699997=:78426 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for = a lot of people...
 
 
 
ted h.


Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethi= n' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song peo= ple want to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't= got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believ= in' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line"

--0-1804299877-1299699997=:78426-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:49:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E744B183463; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=wLqNiqFsgwxcTsGR3PEAcU1pq1VQn13+LFvRj46mE/8=; b=U9kC/3BDlU5edUbJLTUqgGFqRpyteBzyCJXJsZD6NrzcppG3XsNpnMdWXFayIBRnKy qEAmDCnO/f1J5BqUuJlmoYn49DO46CqhSOxXdEz8Kha1EQ+LGMHmnD5zjrliBhz/ByzY LWVSRjgNb4j+5WnStpnmqh+HiTjwatxYtKhgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=QAbQ7Gcn0DdbjojvodNJD2OwTL0h211KgkBqa9CoM/pvCs6ZBkk5mY4K96n5gfg1+G 6RP37sVQffbhB2E96I80/tdPD0TU4sP5g1j3W4xSts3nAU6xKcEsdCRWuYCvyvYmCeLL V0uB7pD+09toxPnk1F2J8aClXkFVbmUkJi1X8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Myke Atkinson In-Reply-To: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:49:21 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <430F635C-975E-44D9-9288-4273A8BB94F9@gmail.com> References: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:49:25 +0000 (UTC) The switch sounds pretty loud to me based on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUn0IjtVShB4 But maybe that's just how he's tapping it? Only way I could see this being a little better is by having someway to = allow a 'tails mode' switch where if you had a delay or verb in the = effect send it wouldn't be cut off when you revert to direct mode. -Myke On 2011-03-09, at 12:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Let us now pray to the powers that be that they put somewhat quite = buttons on this puppy. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 19:50:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06B4F183459; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xcM5f4LvWCteE2c435Wr0CAunTGIDqzwbaKjPwHfgjg=; b=YMeLB4QJ3FtwKhlAeLD1uqIy9BmAQ84OWQIt9bekhF8+mixjgJD3JoQ9v0UIPWfbeF COKHf30i31F1WTuUjn2V3KdEQ/yjbglzafzdPgzjlIQxrNMeFmY+80WXYHN/xR4QgEHD gS5itsYQlI/yjBMMvCiuk2Zhge3mKHn1W6nUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gyOj1LxKS7Th1nJmOevg6mudVMFY06UYw1g2OX2dW0vQuIpWLUbffFQF6EY76QztJ3 U4MQjG6qcMVM4p2tLbP+av8kWrhRvizHyWhU0DIQaEqucQh+s1iUrqCOkSSXgyCAAfFm OFLGCcRfwvWIEvgYo7fc/kD29BsS9UFBWN30g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <430F635C-975E-44D9-9288-4273A8BB94F9@gmail.com> References: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> <430F635C-975E-44D9-9288-4273A8BB94F9@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:50:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Well the EH site says "silent switching" so who know exactly what that means, but they tried at least. Kevin On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Myke Atkinson wro= te: > The switch sounds pretty loud to me based on this video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUn0IjtVShB4 > > But maybe that's just how he's tapping it? > > Only way I could see this being a little better is by having someway to a= llow a 'tails mode' switch where if you had a delay or verb in the effect s= end it wouldn't be cut off when you revert to direct mode. > > -Myke > > > > > > On 2011-03-09, at 12:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> Let us now pray to the powers that be that they put somewhat quite butto= ns on this puppy. > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 20:07:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C503183466; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oHvWA5KO+hmXuI1xVEUAxEzbpGLmfU+8d2jhpVnN300=; b=MCcOvXhoSon3pCrrgDsZn9z4KXzYm9esIwyhhmZghEvMWUtRHawvElUnFo+bnp41EB 5+Vk+qfC/orXmhdSbMIF3PW91fOrNz2QbbpRh12WjpTtnWveF/PuHmzBc6QERHkllMXv 6UN1T2dYy5oU1/MY9CwT7Wo8nJrCsqHgazC/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gdqjvX7Z9SSOoRa3akjJ7qF3dnZYivQgSYfK6/ByAhE+NQFGUgLH+CFeCZ2KkFc9tr Tk63LyC6U2awrPwMliC92VZGxDzIPdXP2h81DFpe0XMVA6Kj+D60PXRuFfUsMxixx40H kh3NqwCX0ph/ZybEUoe0DKihoUk0cn67BD8Do= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDAC891FDE19D3-1BD4-1C884@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <8CDAC891FDE19D3-1BD4-1C884@Webmail-d106.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:07:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b380938ba6049e124794 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:07:35 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b380938ba6049e124794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay I think I'll play.... Michael Hedges on electric harp guitar indicative of what he was using on Taproot. Marc Anderson on tabla and Steve Tibbetts might as well come along and do something amazing. Warren Zevon to bring forth lyricism like Bill Lee David Lindley on violin or whatever he wants If he's not on violin maybe me on violin. I don't even know if we'd have to play mostly I'd just like to hang out wit= h these fellas and talk about life and how they became who they became. Jim On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:52 AM, wrote: > > THE BERNHARDS : bernhard wagner, bill walker, me.....but it seems i have > already been kicked out of this band! > > BIG SIGH!..... > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00151747b380938ba6049e124794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay I think I'll play....

Michael Hedges on electric harp guita= r indicative of what he was using on Taproot.

Marc Anderson on tabla= and Steve Tibbetts might as well come along and do something amazing.

Warren Zevon to bring forth lyricism like Bill Lee

David Lindley= on violin or whatever he wants

If he's not on violin maybe me o= n violin.

I don't even know if we'd have to play mostly I= 9;d just like to hang out with these fellas and talk about life and how the= y became who they became.

Jim

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:52 AM, = <nemoguitt@aol.c= om> wrote:

THE BERNHARDS : bernhard wagner, bill walker, me.....but it seems i have al= ready been kicked out of this band!

BIG SIGH!.....




--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00151747b380938ba6049e124794-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 20:15:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8617318347C; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bgEvHf5Y9ET8yi/RM5hBesDoyJ4kLjerxZdwGmvi8TRZdutAF/bFN8pup/9i6/im; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <20660277.1299701748000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:15:47 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4899591632d4dab3f3c4b886d80a452558666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC) now THATS a band-lets go! -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) > >ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, is it okay to have two fantasy bands? >.....perhaps, because, between >million selling debut and sophomore records, we all get bored with all >the traveling, press junkets, money and >groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side project. > >My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band >(with people who can also double on other instruments): > >THE DUKES of NOISE > >Jeff Duke on electric guitar >Duke Sexton on electric guitar >Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos >Stan Card on guitar feedback >Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a few >cents detuned from every other D) > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 20:40:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E06018348B; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vXxEgc7uYH6tWMG/BJERe0CuG/YktcYaOs7BlDynS4A=; b=Qjqo7x6zPtvIbwQTjfgOKuAxb4Nh7knyeb4dFujLt+axovk0HbDH3udm2g87VO1izI FM/jSVJbUi+/0ywxiq62o4unDyFEkGd1aU1jHNik9J3g61WjbP6BATb5Mc7ZyouhAyBI +TDs14IAHoSQIvSNA0huC1r3zJQKsf4aQRzuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=suHd0NlX2aywDFoy53K39I2S5FhFKbQs/oneNSM8tUu/x9D71wzBrs4ZCLQuXo+QbY UfHq3sdE7P4wATK3w4O/LkdTWiNydKH2Ix+/gkXb1k6xXhMRfz6LRRo+11hhw5J0HefF Zu6uR7we4QndEs8KUtZBaS4ldrOHZFcB2ULbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20660277.1299701748000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20660277.1299701748000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:40:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) From: Jeff Duke To: stanitarium@earthlink.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfc0a3f420d049e12bd3c Resent-Message-ID: <70C2R.A.sCG.9W-dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:40:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfc0a3f420d049e12bd3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am booking airline as I type..(I wish) :) J On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > now THATS a band-lets go! > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Rick Walker > >Sent: Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) > > > >ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, is it okay to have two fantasy bands? > >.....perhaps, because, between > >million selling debut and sophomore records, we all get bored with all > >the traveling, press junkets, money and > >groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side project. > > > >My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band > >(with people who can also double on other instruments): > > > >THE DUKES of NOISE > > > >Jeff Duke on electric guitar > >Duke Sexton on electric guitar > >Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos > >Stan Card on guitar feedback > >Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a few > >cents detuned from every other D) > > > > > > > > > > > --20cf307cfc0a3f420d049e12bd3c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am booking airline as I type..(I wish) :)

J

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM, <stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:
now THATS a band-= lets go!


-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Walker <looppool@c= ruzio.com>
>Sent: Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM
>To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
>Cc: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project)
>
>ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, =A0 is it okay to have two fantasy bands?
>.....perhaps, because, between
>million selling debut and sophomore records, =A0we all get bored with a= ll
>the traveling, press junkets, money and
>groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side projec= t.
>
>My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band
>(with people who can also double on other instruments):
>
>THE DUKES of NOISE
>
>Jeff Duke on electric guitar
>Duke Sexton on electric guitar
>Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos
>Stan Card on guitar feedback
>Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned =A0D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a fe= w
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--20cf307cfc0a3f420d049e12bd3c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 20:49:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90DD4183476; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1830 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:49:02 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: H8JW1g00A07rVmq0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:18:23 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... In-Reply-To: References: <4D77D432.9020108@cruzio.com> <430F635C-975E-44D9-9288-4273A8BB94F9@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:49:03 +0000 (UTC) I'm thinking that 'silent switching' in that context means it's a kill switch that doesn't introduce a click into the audio signal which is a notorious problem with most kill switches that are installed on guitars. At 2011/03/09 11:50 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >Well the EH site says "silent switching" so who know exactly what that >means, but they tried at least. > >Kevin > >On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Myke Atkinson wrote: > > The switch sounds pretty loud to me based on this video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0IjtVShB4 > > > > But maybe that's just how he's tapping it? > > > > Only way I could see this being a little better is by having > someway to allow a 'tails mode' switch where if you had a delay or > verb in the effect send it wouldn't be cut off when you revert to direct mode. > > > > -Myke > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2011-03-09, at 12:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > >> Let us now pray to the powers that be that they put somewhat > quite buttons on this puppy. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 20:58:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 433B0183464; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=oOPNDbnLiiMs2sqeKp98YaQFSAc2Rv7+7NObF8fsjkE=; b=Ku3B/pWbTEng3zLeCVXWCtr4BEkOPHJ8/2rExyDtcsXzJ6I68GAMuiJIvUEwJRI5NX 7u66SYLlItQcFUVhTusoYYx81HLD+UNZopPpsticohBHeKbJw7tKexAwmeIlWvHVCgB5 wqB2m7iVgWQiYTRXKekyfBcu409yI2y5PcpHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=JsZDrA3idgzMVUUnGAKb6hC9TrHENCFBkP1H8QEhoXPUR0eFN4UHBfCQBxxgGv9yTm +BsqDQltGFjfOVPEd1Isujcn0E0e/puc9+CDzZN8WTjC1p+UomBfzoCH6HHwm+d59HUC 0WIuWiyuKnySfPqa34SfJh6jCo2gQQaxA714o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:57:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: S4zgnjxWXw7Zw_D0aQwdmGPPuX0 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Reversing the external pedal on the Fireworx To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221504821b18271e049e12fc7f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:58:03 +0000 (UTC) --00221504821b18271e049e12fc7f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Any Fireworx users out there? Just to explain my off topic-ness... Wheres the forum for fireworx... the TC forum is so dead.. I NEVER get an answer there... Any Fx users no of an active user group? And NOW.. to the final question, for the beautiful lounge suite... The pedal input on the back of fireworx... for some reason the filters all work backwards.. in relation to how a wah wah usually is. So the toe up position would normally be bassy, muffled and woody, the toe down position would normally be bright, trebly and tinny! On the Fireworx its the opposite... Ive tried to patch the control matrix line that I have set to the pedal (EXT3) thru the Function module, but adding it to a minus number doesnt do anything... Any users know the answer? Maximillion Frankham OBE -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00221504821b18271e049e12fc7f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any Fireworx users out there?

Just to explain my off topic-ness... W= heres the forum for fireworx... the TC forum is so dead.. I NEVER get an an= swer there... Any Fx users no of an active user group?

And NOW.. to = the final question, for the beautiful lounge suite...

The pedal input on the back of fireworx... for some reason the filters = all work backwards.. in relation to how a wah wah usually is. So the toe up= position would normally be bassy, muffled and woody, the toe down position= would normally be bright, trebly and tinny! On the Fireworx its the opposi= te...
Ive tried to patch the control matrix line that I have set to the pedal (EX= T3) thru the Function module, but adding it to a minus number doesnt do any= thing...

Any users know the answer?

Maximillion Frankham OBE=




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--00221504821b18271e049e12fc7f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 21:00:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61BEA183473; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DYtzx2UcDr1XwvUQHS4gRhjKOMHqRZUTjZXAJuOy1C8=; b=HxRljgpDfxQE6aWKWU2efx10bbxmrntNoCKadOEByhlSO7SJhKipnS6H55S3+jAsy0 Fgkqv3HBhEL8LJzwc9mww1mGME5weUv8YprK93aW+2SSl0DD1s/5WC9DUKJleveKRfYF jH8MbnkFiU6X9b7Ecw10jKVW9pYXZLYF4BGLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OtvqiIogPVZIkNI2X87hGpfm41qIn5e8sSJWcrKpjr+o3bThRU04xIKHhlQPFn+v34 RZr3QaawoS5/x8rLM6Vc/Ma2D7Pe85mtF3OGhbG5nhGgv2FuVwQvoyqCxCqABsb9Gzsu k9z1Q4XXeGYX5sBMDtcmQffbpBFyVJ/8Xe8d8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:00:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new boss pedal! From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a8f70b77c9e049e1305be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:00:45 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51a8f70b77c9e049e1305be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But it's MONO! :P Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for a lot > of people... > > > http://www.muziekhuisdacapo.nl/producten_detail.asp?productId=1195&groepId=6&subGroepId=21 > > > ted h. > > > Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* > felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want > to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got > nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in > yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" > > --bcaec51a8f70b77c9e049e1305be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But it's MONO!

:P

Best,

Dennis

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM, ditch w= restler <di= tchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal = for a lot of people...
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ted h.


Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real.= Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's = the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that trul= y saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr= . Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Wa= lk the Line"


--bcaec51a8f70b77c9e049e1305be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 21:01:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4681B18347E; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NssOqWokTtz5BN991qACDi8ugHZ3MYbGeI00NFzWM1k=; b=BOQTBTnPVMBigo7BPRZuxu4w2Cn6uYoluTddADrgABiOnowXSvf3YIV3kNDEifnbfE tHi9qoFHS/X3FFLTlVXTQIp0EVXQTDK90DgtAg95QEPKpbGxIylh7kC4kcqoZEKpHnOa yKMIx4Bfu7pDHIB50hR/VAnFJZgeBUlpXF0U0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tp3ohyFUYW3buRUMW9B29F/WRDQCxG4LiwOgLK4vhduXSFAnrPhZnqPIpsiN+WknAI P76QDmC84uQb6Cu6rfNo/qNQTXcMAcYPnDwbPtdy3h7lxyJ0HADWki5Mwf04YjM1V/1B M/1hPdDwgPElnX86o7R9GB0WP6t2jSRPrgo3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:01:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Reversing the external pedal on the Fireworx From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-gvQ1.A.0yG.9q-dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:01:49 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:57 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Any users know the answer? How about putting it through a "X to Y and Y to X" converter. You may have to take out the soldering gear and make one. Pierre Boison - almost French From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 21:09:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4CCE18348B; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=llSL91a254YTYOnw5yjZbjJseFlPAFnisIHh9VtjkZI=; b=kuuovAIbIktODBsAlWYaTXQ5mRJHJsiCrv7bA1t0C2d9QZ+bP0I2YCEhf+yFbZq3ML lBGCyHaJuFxIjlob6lS6n0mWYvM7EgwVSlqfsOxEQS80lctdCJ3cmoLHr1LybJRhK9EF cZPcIWGIfPXnW++XkXNxPze0JouK+SCsMJBGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=wPRRs6BBtpAmHANBUmE3YVu/TAZJJPSc6Ry2lGX3Twx+GEQgpl+6YLEr/Htywy1YQ6 9303Se6btkR2TsNMG4991rOm99Yi/FIU0x5ba9NtCLiBOexSQw3NPYTgnwFwPoj3zQ0j rJIZLMMxEITeZS0hZOA4Mg+zkWQE2LtgZrWYk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:08:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9j1bTDPYCPmQ1NKwqQRNLZIIpl4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2edb2858f8049e1323b9 Resent-Message-ID: <0q3MgB.A.3BH.rx-dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:08:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2edb2858f8049e1323b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:53 PM, boost wrote: > HI Mark, > i tried again today but it didn't work... > explain me what do you mean by "ground is just the ground" ? > I mean, in a jack cable the ground lugs are connected to ground.. leave them there, ignore them, pretend they don't exist! > to wich ground is connected the capacitor ? to the ground of the input > jack ? > The cable needs a diode in the live wire, so disconnect the tip wire in the jack plug. solder instead a diode, (with the stripe AWAY from the solder lug). Now the wire you disconnected needs to be soldered to the OTHER end of the diode (the end WITH the stripe). Nearly there... Now connect the same place (the join with the diode and the wire) to the ground lug together with the wire thats already there (but continue to ignore it..) The cap also has a right way and wrong way... neg to ground, pos to wire. If you think this is pretty difficult to fit in a jack socket, then I agree, thast why i did it inside my Vortex. The fact that it can all fit inside a jack plug is a rumour spread about but that dirty trickster Butler, who doesnt want anyone to nick his tricks... but still puts them on his website to appear sharing and open... If you still dont get it.. Ill draw a picture!!! (Ill do it anyway... give me an hour... Im opening Maya!!) Mark > i don't understand what's wrong... > thanks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mark francombe > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex > > Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did it actually. > I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnected the A/B > channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between EDP and > Vortex. > I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the morph switch, > thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and back to the > circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket... > > http://twitpic.com/47lej2 > (See the two little switches in the top right?) > One synchs the tap to the EDP one synchs the morph. > > I have to say that both dont work at the same time, its one OR the other, > but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph on the other is > very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then vortex jumps back > and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade both ways... > > GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>> > But connecting the ground would be wrong. the ground is just the ground. > What you should be doing is connecting the signal to ground via a capaciter, > to smooth out (or is it to lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in > there somewhere...? make sure that its round the right way... they are > always the bugger. > > Mark > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> don't know what's wrong. >> i connected the ground of both jacks to the ground connected to the >> capacitor. >> is that ok ? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" < >> markfrancombe@gmail.com> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:59 AM >> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex >> >> >> >> Sure... Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat >>> too.. Keep trying it's a great mod. >>> >>> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >>> >>> On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost wrote: >>> >>> Hi ! >>>> a question for Vortex and EDP owners: >>>> did one of you tried this : >>>> http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm >>>> i tried but didn't manage to make it work... >>>> thanks >>>> boost >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016364d2edb2858f8049e1323b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:53 PM, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrote:
HI Mark,
i tried again today but it didn't= =20 work...
explain me what do you mean by "g= round is just the=20 ground" ?

I mean, in a jack ca= ble the ground lugs are connected to ground.. leave them there, ignore them= , pretend they don't exist!
=A0
to wich ground is connected the capaci= tor ? to the=20 ground of the input jack ?

The cabl= e needs a diode in the live wire, so disconnect the tip wire in the jack pl= ug. solder instead a diode, (with the stripe AWAY from the solder lug). Now= the wire you disconnected needs to be soldered to the OTHER end of the dio= de (the end WITH the stripe).
Nearly there...
Now connect the same place (the join with the diode and = the wire) to the ground lug together with the wire thats already there (but= continue to ignore it..) The cap also has a right way and wrong way... neg= to ground, pos to wire.

If you think this is pretty difficult to fit in a jack socket, then I a= gree, thast why i did it inside my Vortex. The fact that it can all fit ins= ide a jack plug is a rumour spread about but that dirty trickster Butler, w= ho doesnt want anyone to nick his tricks... but still puts them on his webs= ite to appear sharing and open...

If you still dont get it.. Ill draw a picture!!!

(Ill do it anyw= ay... give me an hour... Im opening Maya!!)

Mark


=A0
i don't understand what's wron= g...
thanks
=A0
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with=20 Echoplex

Ill be honest to you, it was a very long time since I did = it=20 actually.
I built the circuit internally inside my Vortex I disconnec= ted=20 the A/B channel plug. so now I can just connect a regular lead between ED= P and=20 Vortex.
I take a cable from the input jack for the tap switch and the= =20 morph switch, thru small switches mounted on the front of the Vortex, and= back=20 to the circuit, and capaciter, and out the now defunct A/B socket...
<= br>http://twitpic.c= om/47lej2
(See the two=20 little switches in the top right?)
One synchs the tap to the EDP one s= ynchs=20 the morph.

I have to say that both dont work at the same time, its= one=20 OR the other, but setting a long morph on one preset and a short morph on= the=20 other is very cool, cos then I morph one way over a bar, and then vortex= =20 jumps=A0 back and does it again, rather than the usual slow fade both=20 ways...

GUESSING @ A SOLUTION HERE>>>
But connecting t= he=20 ground would be wrong. the ground is just the ground. What you should be = doing=20 is connecting the signal to ground via a capaciter, to smooth out (or is = it to=20 lengthen.. ) the pulse. isnt there a diode in there somewhere...? make su= re=20 that its round the right way... they are always the=20 bugger.

Mark






On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:11 PM, boost <b= oost@boosterized.com>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 Mark,
don't know what's wrong.
i connected the ground of = both jacks to=20 the ground connected to the capacitor.
is that ok ?

----- Ori= ginal=20 Message ----- From: "mark francombe" <markfrancombe@gmail.com>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday,=20 March 08, 2011 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex



Sure...=20 Mine works... Plus mine can sync morph switching to the beat
too..= =20 =A0Keep trying it's a great mod.

Sent from my (advertiseme= nt=20 removed)

On 8 Mar 2011, at 00:57, boost <boost@boosterized.com> wrot= e:

Hi=20 !
a question for Vortex and EDP owners:
did one of you tried = this=20 : http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/edpsync.htm
i=20 tried but didn't manage to make it=20 work...
thanks
boost



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--0016364d2edb2858f8049e1323b9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 21:13:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4CF418349B; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Z4cSTOEl7nN/CLHV5n/BfFxPFezjAbDQdrAm5DnJIgM=; b=roXZYqpmOxV9yKrZi8dPE7/QAxKJW1vMhdhLlmLQLp1XrzhRTG0Yi73rByxRXv27Ib pMOmkEhestgTS+oWx/pfUSWZkgQ28RwH0Bnj2vFdYJ74N/SEmT834ItiddoRn6f7EM67 56X+pc96e1xUEjpHCBOVXW2Qlzd15NS2n0Z/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=oPVqJcjley6Q5uIatT+qlmIDRXaS59xPWjcddrojW0W2a+gwFOlSWtVQIYI0i5D3VJ ywPhAq2Q3c7E2pQkuTZ01Z4xOenF82tBRkm6T+mY0Hc/WBhnu+EhO3kqLq88sCy5Sb30 z2YrYG6waiErv6pqqCXao5F5angzWzk+6Z/Wo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20660277.1299701748000.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:12:47 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sQeKG93J7Yc_oHrQXozisBZTeYI Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517573fbcfcf9ab049e13316b Resent-Message-ID: <2U7XMD.A.tNH.l1-dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:13:09 +0000 (UTC) --001517573fbcfcf9ab049e13316b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im in!! ... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of Morrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries... On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I am booking airline as I type..(I wish) :) > > J > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > >> now THATS a band-lets go! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Rick Walker >> >Sent: Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM >> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) >> > >> >ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, is it okay to have two fantasy bands? >> >.....perhaps, because, between >> >million selling debut and sophomore records, we all get bored with all >> >the traveling, press junkets, money and >> >groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side project. >> > >> >My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band >> >(with people who can also double on other instruments): >> > >> >THE DUKES of NOISE >> > >> >Jeff Duke on electric guitar >> >Duke Sexton on electric guitar >> >Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos >> >Stan Card on guitar feedback >> >Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a few >> >cents detuned from every other D) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --001517573fbcfcf9ab049e13316b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im in!!
... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of M= orrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries...

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
I am booking airl= ine as I type..(I wish) :)

J


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at= 3:15 PM, <stanitarium@earthlink.net> wrote:
now THATS a band-= lets go!


-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>Sent: Mar 9, 2011 11:37 AM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project)
>
>ooooh, ooooh, oooooh, =A0 is it okay to have two fantasy bands?
>.....perhaps, because, between
>million selling debut and sophomore records, =A0we all get bored with a= ll
>the traveling, press junkets, money and
>groupies that we feel compelled to express ourselves with a side projec= t.
>
>My Fantasy Side Project would be an all guitar band
>(with people who can also double on other instruments):
>
>THE DUKES of NOISE
>
>Jeff Duke on electric guitar
>Duke Sexton on electric guitar
>Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos
>Stan Card on guitar feedback
>Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned =A0D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a fe= w
>cents detuned from every other D)
>
>
>
>
>




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--001517573fbcfcf9ab049e13316b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 21:25:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 979D61834A4; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=jsdBQ4JiPC4MGaxlVE5x88R/GDr2JNOZOqarDjS7WaI=; b=LNPHvsldXeXM+vVPuzNKP1Nekj8+H4QPs93g+4XB5HxETK3a/hx6ho7kzt41HPQVWA WwfiK1tggrTnJFwubkaIW9iuy3As017E4QKqPiX2hd+JW4fGGYwqNZYaeV12Pgq1mCcC sqqJ7GrmlcZiwTFAoR/ZUOIJ1DGJnbitL1Dx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=YedAvkaiqAgyTAOJGPO8LMpKuZmdzqvsnnj1vLWnszqPpWqbZQ6069DC+zFvCHXj3B PuG6T83H8GQSaf/B9odkQSb/ktEi+g6KAJLlE4uVwRV4Ux8mStNZ1e7ElmUcUngouG54 BRy9XTM7HFpXc/nwail2PdFWTaizo9gdsIktI= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--723798156 Subject: Re: new boss pedal! Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:25:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <70939A85-F4FE-46F6-A0F7-E3606DB9DDAD@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <9YXTbC.A.0mH.gB_dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:25:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--723798156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm gonna get two and run them in series! On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > =20 > Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for = a lot of people... > =20 > = http://www.muziekhuisdacapo.nl/producten_detail.asp?productId=3D1195&groep= Id=3D6&subGroepId=3D21 > =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--723798156 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I'm gonna get two and run them in series!
On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote:
 
Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for a lot of people...
 
 


--Apple-Mail-3--723798156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 22:02:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC9CE18347D; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+RO8257gJKSKgUVR/cD6wKTujfpzdBMlnkWI/vs6rNY=; b=vfKnNJ54AcXnyVfTUFRCJfijsTZotkSDm8oNzl6xQ9hP48rBGIGq44k3BFF/HWc3Vv Ljo/SuRWGdYd3kfK4kdKHwEGKp9Hg/L7MebHs/2mLIPIe8W/irLISj5qzqdkgLHhKSSG o+A5Mu4Ku7m9P/ZIonSNqanNIWNnb8DtlhLok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tPY5KGUWFY+Tx1sOblgShVpOf7fAOaBEJIflLdi0TitwRDT28iiRp35iZgN1HyRCGh 3jYnL9WNUM3bedreT51w8sYM7YWyi+HshBmBVSiPjg/K1H4+711ShGw8ry0gydvKDozB i4Ji2NKmQrCRxcT8bGvCJv7USWfBs2a0Nlk6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:02:13 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7FfJNB.A.mu.mj_dNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark, What projects has Helge Sten been involved in other than Deathprod and recording Supersilent? I like his drone work. mark francombe was like: > > Keyboards/Electronics : Helge Sten -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 22:09:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0191918347B; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UGUKs3UoVBJHGyHwed34fzT+nMy4VDuDh+TVDye0S3w=; b=C/nHY3MLo9zS2mHC7+GGE/NivkSktOKrUD5jSK0T0yPEkeIwsMKI3XK3jojM4MDjVe N9Nz41NQgjG1mhCRdDVBFZRzNYWLjf7PpTD3+8trRL1IB4CtpKq9gGaOzJUS5bnUhkTk MLf2ESTDDBt/eYj8k5wFVm37LAPxyjNhA+Xi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YJbGNbhWfK9yAfIXit1braH7HWCfrneQfOtMDD/cuLIRXvn5Um/zE4yCaiSV0Oqjq6 roJIf9N59OT29tiQ+Q6Id63Eezdaw/fR2gHHJNFShIaIoAvSjErQu1oyo1VWQys7UP3+ mLB8o4lxO/FtJN2+g98NDRNqJDIT+Cugsgxss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <2081630133.6751882.1299636081396.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:09:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NLZoghJyzpJ37NAMAQxolDe_NhE Message-ID: Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8bbc281dfe049e13fba8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:09:24 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8bbc281dfe049e13fba8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 He is IN Supersilent too you know... he plays... something... Yes Deathprod... but also he records a lot of expreimental people here, and some not so... Susanna and the magic band for example... but its his Supersilent work that puts him in my band.. he lives not 100 meters from me actually... dont know him though.. but I try to smile occasionally in the Supermarket! Mark On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hey Mark, > > What projects has Helge Sten been involved in other than Deathprod and > recording Supersilent? I like his drone work. > > mark francombe was like: > > > > Keyboards/Electronics : Helge Sten > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8bbc281dfe049e13fba8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He is IN Supersilent too you know... he plays... something... Yes Deathprod= ...=A0 but also he records a lot of expreimental people here, and some not = so... Susanna and the magic band for example... but its his Supersilent wor= k that puts him in my band.. he lives not 100 meters from me actually... do= nt know him though.. but I try to smile occasionally in the Supermarket!
Mark

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 PM,= Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Mark,

What projects has Helge Sten been involved in other than Deathprod and
recording Supersilent? I like his drone work.

mark francombe <mark@markfranc= ombe.com> was like:
>
> Keyboards/Electronics : Helge Sten

--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba6e8bbc281dfe049e13fba8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 22:41:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC72A18348C; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299710460; bh=kDIKx2qHcAvx2pzXVbJV9N44JN9p3IoJAb3IHb6D49E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mAgFSb/W4RQs3FBoqJcufino3LcPtmFnVeIYwn9kR8sujVOnZ37lP1lFn2r3ts9fkdmnncFfq6kFJRUFSq7LOqXriCINN5cLqRIO3F0Rx2YP1M93ASVuB0KIhZi7+mG2xG3IegQH52fFwasQrTmZkiDpTiKYH6TTnSYY+8yfNfU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Eqc68uxbPmUhRNJj76ot9HRFKiz5/6mX2kCgulQ0aGC3haMj+vYdSSQQ/IbFrRaPKxGqOTGAH4pbNnUUIpBvtIxM2zDcpElRhwwYXBlmXMqpuwnlVKC+lrbRDyCc1S5wFU5BtbMnh8Q9Y1FotjAECP9aWQfcLxrRGp2FvoIbNXU=; Message-ID: <16412.64645.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: tK158iwVM1kcEm3WchB1Wawu11Is.7GvsU7m3UFUi42Of.H ZlnOnvMRVuLyuFlvkc6A5EH1DIKMbYA_IQLLge95eDoRf0bqh_0PNBB9t0U. ZyfvhzDk7ByW_BtF1wmvQAik12vyTpuoNA_60Yuz6Q3PHko8oMkDcvoRFUja 4C7Do1CV9Y8fPYbUyarskpXab62S9PuGGXs_XIHsVdpOP0EWMWYufIx7YvH7 gh9NkFaO9Q9IuJPBSivNF2TsDLx5H8LZETO60NPCmGWp6qt3j9b.2SL7LFL_ PL.e1cgXejvnEGubaV5HwoA37OZvErTrYFIbrhI90LECbtZ8UmHLd47sWtKj 5TW0bBx44Fr1rf.bc5Mt9e.WNjEB.zuO_3ikagOtkdFjI5s6HcqvLTstjug- - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: new boss pedal! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <70939A85-F4FE-46F6-A0F7-E3606DB9DDAD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1782956633-1299710459=:64645" Resent-Message-ID: <7rZ9nD.A.UsB.9HAeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:41:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-1782956633-1299710459=:64645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =A0 =A0Not me, I'm gonna run em parallel! Wait,,=A0 2 in series, paralleled wit= h 2 more in series! Maybe even stereo. What the hey, Pink Floyd em,,, QUAD!= !!! Rig --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Todd Matthews wrote: From: Todd Matthews Subject: Re: new boss pedal! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:25 PM I'm gonna get two and run them in series! On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: =A0 Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for a lot= of people... =A0 http://www.muziekhuisdacapo.nl/producten_detail.asp?productId=3D1195&groepI= d=3D6&subGroepId=3D21 =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1782956633-1299710459=:64645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy,
 
 Not me, I'm gonna run em parallel! Wait,,  2 in series, par= alleled with 2 more in series! Maybe even stereo. What the hey, Pink Floyd = em,,, QUAD!!!!
Rig

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmai= l.com> wrote:

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com><= BR>Subject: Re: new boss pedal!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 1:25 PM

I'm gonna get two and run them in series!
On Mar 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote:
 
Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for = a lot of people...
 
 



=0A=0A --0-1782956633-1299710459=:64645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 9 22:47:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53A2C18348C; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6fYzWD28kksU5fejvCWp1BCHw9eoC8fyaA5BBOgvcz8=; b=ZnaOdOtbsbbntO/0q991Yo8XLSXRn9YjYJarrA0wpd0XpHajr8OR1QvOZS5ThaN9ah 4w0OSfe035PaQA3l0CBBRznFhusc3MTXJ8CFnQN7afCXtZnIwIMtIPDOl0MxNbqkQodC y7ERhRPtU+jvRDmQveyfbne15choyPFYNXl0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dhOQxOPLDK7g7jZibmz0OEYOYu3fQ2Y9M0x7heskhJzICyUDTI7FGiNOKXcuE91qvv hqj0MYawA39ZDawf4ZsNg2l21y0cSMDNZceUTT+RTldm6W/taPUn/UM80KpDoDMFn2O6 lBLAtdp6ztJw1BKYbEJqxJZcnexQcxOifMDxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:47:30 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a3FHcgJg88hsLKgRtKIO_L5vbcU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306845f7b8fd29049e148463 Resent-Message-ID: <1SWGMD.A.WAC.WOAeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:47:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf306845f7b8fd29049e148463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > i don't understand what's wrong... > >> thanks >> >> If you still dont get it.. Ill draw a picture!!! > (Ill do it anyway... give me an hour... Im opening Maya!!) > And here it is. How to make the sync cable for vortex to EDP. Drawn in Maya by me, (ok it took a little longer than an hour, hour and a half I think!) https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/ru7tp/jackplug.jpg Mark -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf306845f7b8fd29049e148463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i don't understand what's wrong...
thanks

<= /div>

If you still dont get it.. Ill draw = a picture!!!
(Ill do it anyway... give me an hour... Im = opening Maya!!)

And here it is. How to= make the sync cable for vortex to EDP. Drawn in Maya by me, (ok it took a = little longer than an hour, hour and a half I think!)

https:/= /skitch.com/markfrancombe/ru7tp/jackplug.jpg



Mark


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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf306845f7b8fd29049e148463-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 02:44:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DA41183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:44:44 +0900 Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... Thread-Index: AcvezRyeWJyltGiKSBmLcItLgV2UvA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:44:49 +0000 (UTC) On 3/10/11 2:18 AM, "Jeff Duke" wrote: > > "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post the details? I > am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a half way idea with > the parts from Radio Shack. Oh, that one's easy, no soldering required (so I don't have to burn down my house). There's one of the Korg tuners -- model DT-7, IIRC, but there may be others -- which has an input for an external 'bypass' pedal. If you attach an external switch, you can use that to mute the signal while you tune your guitar. However, you can use it as a killswitch very easily. I've had a Roland FSU-5 plugged into one, and it works well. You can also hear Bill (who came up with this in the first place) use this setup in a couple of his videos. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 03:15:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441D0183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AtMz7KvA7whi6D4dSaSEyX1R4dp4tS1RSxwNie1qScM=; b=UeC4Ke7B9zf3tA17v3udlXdhdZgxHvv9GWFsT09KcxHiOK3DajpkUrBHykzok6xkZt lpa3Rh4Y4sw2HELbkiDAuXxgpmbHssiMQ2qAmtIcJKek0heP1XlTmuLNRKH4xynZXoC0 +uOPtJI/rDntP/25E9bhu5ymKaDH7qoLtU8zA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i/tbVPoXxvM9F/7vDXhKr3HXYHvzGN8ZXdJ8vkRDYKzTce1jyDZa8uMkYVDoMadywy 7MJfyUqwjkYWxWXaEwAftym8Gfq/WlA21VY5bcDv45fRaSvE5L8rMfCQR279LLxwkSXb j/wEtEsb/tu1aqpb/2TShn7MKquZJKGnXRBkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:14:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Semi-OT: EHX Killswitch... From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d05821957a9049e1840e2 Resent-Message-ID: <3ycyh.A.Gh.zIEeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:14:59 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d05821957a9049e1840e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks DB, I have one that will meet the requirements, I'll check it out as soon as I can find it :) (hunting through boxes of archived gear) j On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > On 3/10/11 2:18 AM, "Jeff Duke" wrote: > > > > "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you post the > details? I > > am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a half way idea > with > > the parts from Radio Shack. > > Oh, that one's easy, no soldering required (so I don't have to burn down my > house). > > There's one of the Korg tuners -- model DT-7, IIRC, but there may be others > -- which has an input for an external 'bypass' pedal. If you attach an > external switch, you can use that to mute the signal while you tune your > guitar. However, you can use it as a killswitch very easily. > > I've had a Roland FSU-5 plugged into one, and it works well. You can also > hear Bill (who came up with this in the first place) use this setup in a > couple of his videos. > > --m. > > --20cf307d05821957a9049e1840e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks DB, I have one that will meet the requirements, I'll check it ou= t as soon as I can find it :) (hunting through boxes of archived gear)
<= br>j

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Dust= bunnies <mech@m3ch.ne= t> wrote:
On 3/10/11 2:18 A= M, "Jeff Duke" <jeffloo= ps@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Bill's Korg Tuner hack"? How did I miss this? Could you= post the details? I
> am making one or I at least have some parts laid out and a half way id= ea with
> the parts from Radio Shack.

Oh, that one's easy, no soldering required (so I don't have to burn= down my
house).

There's one of the Korg tuners -- model DT-7, IIRC, but there may be ot= hers
-- which has an input for an external 'bypass' pedal. =A0If you att= ach an
external switch, you can use that to mute the signal while you tune your guitar. =A0However, you can use it as a killswitch very easily.

I've had a Roland FSU-5 plugged into one, and it works well. =A0You can= also
hear Bill (who came up with this in the first place) use this setup in a couple of his videos.

=A0 =A0--m.


--20cf307d05821957a9049e1840e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 05:01:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F813183463; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:01:49 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, STAN CARD , DUKE SEXTON , Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:01:57 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Im in!!... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of > Morrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries... Don't forget the black pants, black button up shirts, black shoes and black attitude. We can call our music BLACK NOISE (actually a great name for a band now that I come to think of it). We're a go, then!!!!! Shall we all converge for Y2K11 in Santa Cruz for the first DUKES of NOISE dream band performance? What do you say, Duke, Jeff, Stan, Mark? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 05:55:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C89B183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1+oCNefWe6XqZ+lTAoeI+4b4joB7Ffa1U5/tVnxkSLM=; b=a7nzbSriJyPhSuJdpVQF6OGSpoPlkPMdB0KF7fUZV+k+zLUFmtnHjSOuVJP6reQqp9 WAb3Ws/T2CvWNQqYJ5louaxHyFpg9zUuGy4KnHFo/dMsq1d9Ec0CltGWx9EAKNdTSkYm Z6sAi97w8Nxizwo2jQBlq299uyojv0ZgI4wgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FSlBSC2CWg6tkTJ/lvonz1fFcd0RztanquynN8yH5ifyKChwZHzIgjoAplCGgiwby+ /NCQj2+9cISuEB9hLSAw43Q5wVAteawj0kfvMkyVHOg2fKW89efcWqcdGwOwWWF0c62g 2+z7xtRDaNx2cJX9ZYA4kOCm/EJ0XjfrpzXgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> References: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:55:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b174deb6305049e1a7cf6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:55:10 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b174deb6305049e1a7cf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 duet: fripp+caruso --bcaec51b174deb6305049e1a7cf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable duet: fripp+caruso


--bcaec51b174deb6305049e1a7cf6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 06:01:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E93318345F; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t9HL6RQxJj+Uc5BkxCL96mkgtUAjgy+LSgyt/nT+8Go=; b=MMcSG/GtkzCFAlOM2OJDkGc93/ehR4aoIoLCRuykEqkh/uxBJKOc3QSOOT5owXqLrX 10F/7mKOfxtyPRdyOJJu9ix1rKukL+K1C9Au2YarK87iJ++UXMR8akPW9sA4vwxqZW0C wqh3YXmTNzpgzKQguEvbeC8RoFHpNnqZrhh28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=xjZ4mehPpkcxtqaT8TH1K/37FqII/kcupbPqnnKQEmdPOlFSRkahYhDQkm4desyQXv lBKzCqnI6fOpO43VdS0HgaEPTHShvUATviKD0YNre5fTnnw9holoB94pL5EOFGKm+TO8 x4ye0E3wJkX6GNvIcKSwLHaPmBoQWfGrQSC3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jeffloops@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> References: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:01:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PJG98__Ah584MFsduXJWvvX41Lg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) From: Jeff Duke To: Rick Walker Cc: mark francombe , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, STAN CARD , DUKE SEXTON Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f92f5fd4a36049e1a92ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:01:26 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f92f5fd4a36049e1a92ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am there Rick! Don't forget the case of complimentary black earplugs for the audience..:) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Im in!!... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of >> Morrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries... >> > Don't forget the black pants, black button up shirts, black shoes and black > attitude. > > We can call our music BLACK NOISE (actually a great name for a band now > that I come to think of it). > > We're a go, then!!!!! > > Shall we all converge for Y2K11 in Santa Cruz for the first > DUKES of NOISE dream band performance? > > What do you say, Duke, Jeff, Stan, Mark? > --bcaec53f92f5fd4a36049e1a92ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am there Rick! Don't forget the case of complimentary black earplugs = for the audience..:)

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011= at 12:01 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 = AM, mark francombe wrote:
Im in!!... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of Morro= can, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries...
Don't forget the black pants, black button up shirts, black shoes and b= lack attitude.

We can call our music BLACK NOISE (actually a great name for a band now tha= t I come to think of it).

We're a go, then!!!!!

Shall we all converge for Y2K11 in Santa Cruz for the first
DUKES of NOISE dream band performance?

What do you say, =A0Duke, Jeff, Stan, Mark?

--bcaec53f92f5fd4a36049e1a92ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 06:12:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43672183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=c1GujKM1oNJ1MWGGWTzlytplvxwejKXQrgmB9FiamC96QOEsPiw0nomqGtcc6nZW; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <28235330.1299737570488.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:12:50 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd480260891c0f829956f5965b1b8c42ac411e3821db987f1b31350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:12:51 +0000 (UTC) SPL Stan will be there yall -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Mar 9, 2011 9:01 PM >To: mark francombe >Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, STAN CARD , DUKE SEXTON , Jeff Duke >Subject: Re: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) > >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Im in!!... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of >> Morrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries... >Don't forget the black pants, black button up shirts, black shoes and >black attitude. > >We can call our music BLACK NOISE (actually a great name for a band now >that I come to think of it). > >We're a go, then!!!!! > >Shall we all converge for Y2K11 in Santa Cruz for the first >DUKES of NOISE dream band performance? > >What do you say, Duke, Jeff, Stan, Mark? > From officefile-----754@att.net Thu Mar 10 07:36:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.54]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 330F4183453 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 07:35:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 07:35:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 07:35:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 197209.51753.bm@omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 2650 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2011 07:35:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1299742558; bh=ugWLknRyw3y26DZs1e/H4US9Yde2tuorPfBUMvKH8Nc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mLgZs8IyphrHGF3UdZvgOgO6/1z54XyUDCWvjQ9s5NvT716Qc3v2Qv5xYGw7ELZucYDlNEpCfnS+WSzub+HFwxuJskhR6NGAw75K1Lm4XEW0HUf7u/pk/mT4jwhA3klUIWnZBXtI0LORLxddIPXVuuipNFKUhZJynr5xAEruFNk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CNErmeCl4nElRxgKvhmEQ6Az44laVZcVp4N6blW1FyGoYd2Ok4KH30VJwZj4FWwM92fgOUm5y0tDRQ1oTyRCxqbc71HNZ0rIlnHRqL71+LQo/hPGpRmM7Rde97yo9D7Yu1gkNfRNJCUGqIsbyWGDnPWn6LSrOw2xuNK66edbS3o=; Message-ID: <864348.79886.qm@web181312.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mOG6X3oVM1k8byAwgTRT6sKPq657zFEcw94ujSGavJV23rv Wmk_cy2.cDFtT7Yt87qijjYNO7GV9c0w5rYLgROY9Hc_4_N0SUs9pMqf6iNk 99Xmz.pDWYMugItohQl0pbxWFohOMAaYTERhZT9FUi1I5CYYRi3fpFOKXyse aGVg.RRCzTd3D83mPIB.pLiyvrU0Gbdv0WKfklRa6H259Ijm_W.mPj5AWE7N rS1XS_IIxy.FsniYbreHOiDyS1wiPjSO0lGXjz3ksK7ideoT2FyIgnZAODux vipikEuJrWLc1CsUOZenmbH4T8pXWPcOlNa6X1DUWgSdI5uvw3GWfhGpJYV3 dMSX4A0O_qUM.wDhvhCuP5D_YqeVp7g0kLY1zQNsr4fVc9ZmqFU0BNBM1ppS HSHTK3w9H8QCEuzf..RzWDu0wa2XMZyxSt3n3QdjIY83s2_RZjFXqmfMBq8w ucmrMJtYTwjIu8BLVeFQ.4_gnXme_qcQWvoyc_67sBFWFG26BVDMYExAO.aY KPNjgneUZkSWtE.KNbFtpabMcqeefEdfZOPyZ3eQxLjKAoGNvqA7wde2Y6Mm H6KbHOUakz9R_cxfMWSonz3EYBd39QIpMGPX7guOLCnN6FfFYg4RLYtwY245 RubToD4QerYb_bc9G6dFaSVV0mtTm1U3U3rLhcHQNAWm1wH8YOopspk3o9rJ gZyhL8tJeD2KkwrlJL9RIa6iIiI42.W_nBWn1gQLV7Ch1MnzUIroyL4gDHRL hl.sTb2wsX6pCM338kq9m4frwwwY060lDBKVPjSo3ljaTvE79Ad2DNeA2M0C SGqLKnE31lAarbtQFACSN7O7myscUmNWrQUsCbS1deY9Y_HqPgnfK7ucyUVF 96tmqUIx1t3zSr1LCEuBa8JpQemYXaugnsYqtVp7e5A2ZN.BMpXMm9h9RRhp _1vk6ptwNLKnumy_uBDo- Received: from [81.91.230.137] by web181312.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:35:58 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:35:58 -0800 (PST) From: "MR. JAMES VICTOR" Reply-To: moneygramservice56@globomail.com Subject: CONTACT MONEY GRAM INTERNATIONAL FOR YOUR PAYMENT!! To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-35536244-1299742558=:79886" --0-35536244-1299742558=:79886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ATTENTION BENEFICIARY, =C2=A0 WE THE MONEY GRAM URGENT REMMITTING OFFICE HAVE SENT YOUR FULL COMPENSATION= PAYMENT OF $900.000.00USD TO YOU THROUGH MONEY GRAM, YOU WILL BE RECEIVING= THE SUM OF $7.450.00USD PER DAY, NOW WE HAVE SEND THE FIRST PAYMENT TO YOU= , CONTACT OUR DIRECTOR DR.JIM WILFRED AND ASK HIM TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY GRA= M PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO PICK UP YOUR FUNDS THROUGH= MONEY GRAM WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM. =C2=A0 HERE IS THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF MONEY GRAM DIRECTOR GENERAL=E2=80=A6DR.JIM WILFRED EMAIL ADRESS ... 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JAMES VICTOR --0-35536244-1299742558=:79886 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-35536244-1299742558=:79886-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 07:39:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0655183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:39:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i5NWqhhxYqiCJOg3Q5TyRuSgeEC9kHEFyDqX+Fws9is=; b=PMqH1k1aRpf2N72FOU06mEhcbUaJ21BhhU7kYoI6+dgTxbeK/5sbVWYYoJvSYZL1MO 6ZB69LXsj0KDJVxqlfaVTfr0yAHrOfW/NAfBBr4VOGvRJzqNpBHkroiHOMv0oMA8H1J4 5mwUytOfNyOA5oO7jPgIfylLLlpm1Zt0kf4s4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rpDoVxvNDYAIw8WAIMfHGGE5LAzsQZY8/KyFZqevx5HY7azC92DWouYFiSwAl0BMPS j/UpMdoh89c4k0N5KD5mXqtqpWaBUbn53qBw/JWOqAfXT9Kp+7mEdaWSo5fayE+9Pfdm hScKX2xyob9am6hioXBMDOlUN+2neR3Ih3rk8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <101120.78426.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new boss pedal! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d15fc4ea80049e1bf301 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:39:59 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d15fc4ea80049e1bf301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 jeeez that took a long time to come... On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal for a lot > of people... > > > http://www.muziekhuisdacapo.nl/producten_detail.asp?productId=1195&groepId=6&subGroepId=21 > > > ted h. > > > Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real. Somethin' *you* > felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's the kind of song people want > to hear. That's the kind of song that truly saves people. It ain't got > nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr. Cash. It has to do with believin' in > yourself. Sam Phillips, "Walk the Line" > > --00504502d15fc4ea80049e1bf301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jeeez that took a long time to come...

On= Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> = wrote:


AT= TENTION BENEFICIARY,
 
WE THE MONEY GRAM URGENT REMMITTING OFFICE HAVE S= ENT YOUR FULL COMPENSATION PAYMENT OF $900.000.00USD TO YOU THROUGH MONEY G= RAM, YOU WILL BE RECEIVING THE SUM OF $7.450.00USD PER DAY, NOW WE HAVE SEN= D THE FIRST PAYMENT TO YOU, CONTACT OUR DIRECTOR DR.JIM WILFRED AND ASK HIM= TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY GRAM PAYMENT INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO = PICK UP YOUR FUNDS THROUGH MONEY GRAM WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.
 HERE IS TH= E CONTACT INFORMATION OF MONEY GRAM
= DIRECTOR GENERAL=E2=80=A6DR.JIM WILFRED
EMAIL = ADRESS ... (moneygramservice56@globomail.com)
PHONE NUMBER +229-98072631
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YOUR NAME: __________________= ___
COUNTRY: ______________________
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">PHONE NUMBER: ____________________=
ADDRESS= : _____________________________
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SEX: ______________________________________________
 CALL OR E= MAIL HIM NOW SO THAT HE CAN PROVIDE THE MONEY GRAM INFORMATION TO YOU AS UR= GENT AS YOU CAN AND ALSO ASK HIM TO PROVIDE YOUR (IRS) FORM.
 THANKS AN= D GOD
MR. JAMES VICTOR
=A0
Even if you can't read Dutch, I think this would be a great pedal = for a lot of people...
=A0
=A0
=A0
ted h.


Or would you sing somethin' different. Somethin' real.= Somethin' *you* felt. Cause I'm telling you right now, that's = the kind of song people want to hear. That's the kind of song that trul= y saves people. It ain't got nothin to do with believin' in God, Mr= . Cash. It has to do with believin' in yourself. Sam Phillips, "Wa= lk the Line"


--00504502d15fc4ea80049e1bf301-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 07:42:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D502D183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2dPfvLjS1Coq/2zZlQcK8Nec3NVD+ez4ks79rUsaIhg=; b=png0QSQpx7xzdXPpn97MnriWYWN1l/VxHRY6Ck/xM7O8/RXqWmso3epBB6oAhweCh+ 5yxl1BZajW7nmCNsDuTl4CAGPWw+M4gxyNK0xr57k57otobAtv/kEpOhwBwDARGW4nGH 85FnSvrD/Ycazw3vys/X+6cBCp7U2PIRxusFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MQdIDLcTMSRXsnTixQDGzZfj8sNEFFBRCz9uXIyul+/My3AWzDfWk1SuR0XXX5Szxl W6gGYE1TfcwKajkxjYJ1n0TwP5+29/YFhaI+TLgq9tqE8K6VrOT6AEJNMc/tKmhasIh+ iFTBUb0WGqAPE2APvDZP4+VgZ9zUICNiFRNeQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:42:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: New podcast From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I've finished a new podcast, which is on http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com/ I probably won't post these here for ever, since they are largely off-topic for this list. However, there is a way to subscribe on the website, which I think automatically connects it to itunes. Anyway, here it is: Episode 4 0) Opening Chimes 1) Scala & Kolacny Brothers "Everything In Its Right Place" (from "On The Rocks", 2008) 2) The Quiet American "Seven Minutes in Tibet" (from CT-Collective "Locations, Vol. 2", 2004) Note - it's a palindrome! 3) The Tear Garden "Turn Me On Dead Man" (from "The Last Man to Fly", 1993) 4) F.M. Einheit "Auftritt Geist/Wald" (from "Prometheus/Lear", 1993) 5) Kammerflimmer Kollectief "Implodiert" (From "M=E4ander", 1999) 6) Shadowbug 4 "No, I Swear...Look At My Tongue" (from "Tiny Voices of Love and Fear", 1999) 7) Scientist "Your Teeth in My Neck" (from "Scientist Rids The World of The Evil Curse of The Vampires", 1981) 8) Victoria Jordanova "Secret Life of Bees - Swarm" (from "In a Landscape", 2007) 9) Information "Every Possible Artificial Condition" (from "Biomekano", 200= 2) 10) Mercury Rev "Faraway from Cars" (from "Snowflake Midnight", 2008) 11) Ernesto Diaz-Infante "Durability of the Throwaway Art Gesture" (from "Ernesto Diaz-Infante", 2003) 12) Midisport (aka Atom TM) "Midi A-Gogo (V.2001)" (from "14 Footballers in Milk Chocolate", 2001) 13) Lumper/Splitter "Sputnik" (from "Lumper/Splitter", 2005) --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From web---------4webt@att.net Thu Mar 10 08:10:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.36]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E31E183453 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 08:10:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 08:10:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 08:10:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 28150.81516.bm@omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65345 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2011 08:10:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1299744609; bh=lA7eKq0niCbaoc+pelyIy4aTZqtLq+O2gBWxYvrSOlI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KsBZW8NBU/Le6VqVy582DMqjuChZpjEjm4B8nisP7VAAkNqRcSp4AzdnRJLIokq++WRmE8Dnj5q68DnfRb64MZrbuNBSYbw4lK62MR320jMXBrz0bCdrgBzmVlWg5aD0hl8Jcmuqq/UpJvfk7ksTKUlEvMXEm4L0pr11FW6ue7k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n2VGk4wxKugHs2ubbNTUxcXrZZETprNAgHEA5cpNnRE9P8lYEuX5P9pe7m6UQWWfi6Y9336APt0r8UckQXaMZoUv5E7io9yozRVa3PqJoHJ5bVvhHjZuiQK94gOKkhxXxIUgkD9+3Qdz5s6HQRNyranYieN/10Kxun+edoomCyc=; Message-ID: <491518.25119.qm@web181220.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZT7voikVM1kZMdo8Z46IpU7.tM.Z.YnkglajYnYVLXwwSsB SmfTwvanFMgEypxJMf7fmMuclcPpXayo.o2YGsd1KQ5wPQDS33vJceqti9hx 0mDsEPn2nH.XeSu8RK27_0_X9oKDRM2kcNvINRHyF5sQVfU92oiKwoXZTG_o Cbqh_es3UFd7tk86_QQHvwEdIPtNTPA.k8tthwGwbPv58lH1q93OXVop_snC aPxNUak2b885bWjawX_oPUqDc6MUWiBoGd_c8YJMYa8SDsQyu9uwM1591oVO wLniMx0RWhAPPelQPXdhAwVKuWO1mytQyQlWDqoAXcBl.zzWvZAF6vq8zw5z 6WHlRz7hQNVstHUxdYE8yCerpQ06PHlGskyE2o1jK6B_r5FbCWCIeQ9r3NrY DUUFqcUVYgqHdcwgYE6F0yikwEfMD.L7m9yFaAqUxJs8uQhET.3VyVr8C.OC 8ZvOXuiPFbnNE8Bh9P1Sq_DmBFBu5qqW8KQwRoSNce0zLfaE_olASbvlx.na _onh_kQxWDk3Qmb.ziZ0ziHAUfSqHQ_qN5rWeHaiZX9Pa00zJyP0saoBc7xm iFJWyktn3IpASphyC63A8GXTbs2o7HxU14039sZFw6pH7lZuoR5oFdYb0S3O y65P1s_co179kCGDT_6evQmsoSGNvbuRW44rsKSfmysx6I7iOqJr.A8zw4H5 gvXqZvcgtYEne8zD7rPN8OE8vcwFvrE6mmXVKSV.MdfEXhGaXertmJxtpG6m fZX3e5zzxBNeNH5g3_mBbJQe.D1RiUsTmHvCZDrMPqwkK7o5BxEAddJSNK.t Xl.fmN.2Z__I_p8mpJX1jlpJ537DALDLdJ7LnPeP.03TXYdFYA808fUhSkfu aAg1AVp8PLCgjTEg5WUHGAHpH95kwvnOayN82sOw_XriCex_96.M4gqmgUFk mfAM2e0M1Alx77bIWQid.uOy7MiOxV.jGOFJr.FEB5UDzOZ_YMP75UEHE3Gm Ybc69F9Euvtz.Cfz79M9s0StY795TZJ1RoTp2zcc3QaSz3OPA8oeBPCJjsU. uiQAAr9.emaVXjSB5t3gXBRQ9GIO3w_ohI9zdOlrSTkiIxm2H3C2jhV3tt05 1mAMO0MBxgCSWT1kphMIE4tfl.qaUOr02vi3yE7LE7CvF2k58WhcRT1jHJfs Z2EAF40kETMZhQzruBpIgnsUx63effKpOUFBHz6cNSBpJj3.ZwY0tU80MoXK rotrpgrHhXgLnlqcWoQ-- Received: from [41.71.145.238] by web181220.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:10:09 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:10:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Mrs.Rose Williams" Reply-To: rose_wiilams_2011@yahoo.co.jp Subject: Dear Beloved To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1711903847-1299744609=:25119" --0-1711903847-1299744609=:25119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Beloved I am Mrs. Rose Williams, a widow of 73years, suffering from cancer of the breast, my husband and my only son were killed last year during the UK terrorist attack when we visited London for holidays.My condition is serious and according to my doctor, it is obvious that I might not survive. I have some funds that my late husband WILLED to me in cash; the sum of US$8,900,000.00 United States of American Dollars. I packaged it in consignments and deposited it with a finance house. After my prayers, I searched a site in the internet, I found your email address and I decided to contact you for the usage of the funds in your Ministry. Therefore, if you are honest and faithful enough to use this fund strictly for the work, your response will be highly appreciated. Kindly Reply through my Email: rose_wiilams_2011@yahoo.co.jp Yours sincerely, Mrs. Rose Williams. --0-1711903847-1299744609=:25119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Dear Beloved

I am Mrs. Rose Williams, a widow of 73years, suffering from cancer of the breast, my husband and my only son were killed last year during the UK terrorist attack when we visited London for holidays.My condition is serious and according to my doctor, it is obvious that I might not survive.

I have some funds that my late husband WILLED to me in cash; the sum of US$8,900,000.00 United States of American Dollars. I packaged it in consignments and deposited it with a finance house. After my prayers, I searched a site in the internet, I found your email address and I decided to contact you for the usage of the funds in your Ministry.

Therefore, if you are honest and faithful enough to use this fund strictly for the work, your response will be highly appreciated. Kindly Reply
through my Email: rose_wiilams_2011@yahoo.co.jp

Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Rose Williams.
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Dear Beloved

I am Mrs. Rose Williams, a widow of 73years, suffering from cancer of the breast, my husband and my only son were killed last year during the UK terrorist attack when we visited London for holidays.My condition is serious and according to my doctor, it is obvious that I might not survive.

I have some funds that my late husband WILLED to me in cash; the sum of US$8,900,000.00 United States of American Dollars. I packaged it in consignments and deposited it with a finance house. After my prayers, I searched a site in the internet, I found your email address and I decided to contact you for the usage of the funds in your Ministry.

Therefore, if you are honest and faithful enough to use this fund strictly for the work, your response will be highly appreciated. Kindly Reply
through my Email: rose_wiilams_2011@yahoo.co.jp

Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Rose Williams.
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--Boundary_(ID_2WFQUSQnCd+a4mSovBcTKQ)-- --Boundary_(ID_+VQ6HkmMBdqEyxab/M50qg)-- From wisniewskaj@neostrada.pl Thu Mar 10 08:57:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3626 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:57:19 UTC Received: from mta6.hosting.tp.pl (outgoing.hosting.tp.pl [193.110.120.20]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5523F183453 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:56:54 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Received: from User ([175.138.143.115]) by mta6.hosting.tp.pl (m6) with ESMTPA id <0LHU00IX40OV5480@mta6.hosting.tp.pl> for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:56:27 +0100 (CET) Message-id: <0LHU00IX80OX5480@mta6.hosting.tp.pl> Sender: wisniewskaj@neostrada.pl Reply-to: offic_raymondchang001@mail.mn From: Barr Raymond Chang Subject: GET BACK TO ME ASAP. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:49:36 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Hello, I am Raymond Chang,an attorney at law. A deceased client of mine,that bears the same last name as yours, died as the result of a heart-related condition on March 12th 2005. His heart condition was due to the death of all the members of his family in the tsunami disaster on the 26th December 2004 in Sumatra Indonesia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake I contacted you to assist in distributing the money left behind by my client. Get back to me for more details. Best regards, Barr.Raymond Chang. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 09:10:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44420183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587515732/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoCAPsjeE1V0rNq/2dsb2JhbAAMmQfQJ4ViBJAB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,295,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587515732" Message-ID: <4D78959E.5010902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:10:54 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:10:51 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > And here it is. How to make the sync cable for vortex to EDP. Drawn in > Maya by me, (ok it took a little longer than an hour, hour and a half I > think!) > > https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/ru7tp/jackplug.jpg amazing, can I use it on the site? worth mentioning that the jack shown plugs into the EDP (not Vortex) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 09:14:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E6B183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 440 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:14:08 UTC Message-ID: From: "boost" To: References: <-3812130917591960353@unknownmsgid> <1EB824FC0B1548538F083B7451A21D55@boo6e771026609> Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:06:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01CBDF0A.DFC1ACF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110309-1, 09/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 10710685815039901362 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.51086/N Resent-Message-ID: <6e7bT.A.Y5H.gZJeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:14:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CBDF0A.DFC1ACF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark for taking the time !!! what you drawed is the jack that goes into the beat sync jack, isn't it = ? well that is absolutely what i did from the begining... still don't work.... yesterday i bought brand new caps and diode to be sure... but still don't work.... it's driving me crazy. my cap is a 2,2 microfarad (uF) . i plugged the jack into a mixer to hear the difference between the beat = sync, and the beat sync modified by the circuit. well all i can hear is that it is sort of low-passed by the circuit, and = that the level is lower. doesn't seem to lenghten the pulse. i'm gonna give up cause i have no idea what to change.... thanks anyway for your help boost ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with Echoplex i don't understand what's wrong... thanks If you still dont get it.. Ill draw a picture!!! (Ill do it anyway... give me an hour... Im opening Maya!!) And here it is. How to make the sync cable for vortex to EDP. Drawn in = Maya by me, (ok it took a little longer than an hour, hour and a half I = think!) https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/ru7tp/jackplug.jpg Mark --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CBDF0A.DFC1ACF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Mark for taking the time = !!!
what you drawed is the jack that goes = into the beat=20 sync jack, isn't it ?
well that is absolutely what i did from = the=20 begining...
still don't work....
yesterday i bought brand new caps and = diode to be=20 sure...
but still don't work....
it's driving me crazy.
my cap is a 2,2 microfarad  (uF)=20 .
i plugged the jack into a mixer to hear = the=20 difference between the beat sync, and the beat sync modified by the=20 circuit.
well all i can hear is that it is sort = of=20 low-passed by the circuit, and that the level is lower.
doesn't seem to lenghten the = pulse.
i'm gonna give up cause i have no idea = what to=20 change....
thanks anyway for your = help
boost
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 = 11:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: Vortex Sync with=20 Echoplex

i don't understand what's = wrong...
thanks


If you still dont get it.. Ill draw a picture!!!
(Ill do it anyway... give me an hour... Im opening=20 Maya!!)

And here it is. How to make the sync cable for vortex to EDP. = Drawn=20 in Maya by me, (ok it took a little longer than an hour, hour and a = half I=20 think!)

https://skit= ch.com/markfrancombe/ru7tp/jackplug.jpg



Mark


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Mark=20 Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no
twitter=20 @markfrancombe
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Attention: Beneficiary


I am Mrs. Farida Mzamber Waziri (Chairman) Efcc Investigation Office Nigeria, there is presently a counter claims on your funds by one MRS. JANET MILLER, who is presently trying to make us believe that you are dead and even explained that you entered into an agreement with her before your death, to help you in receiving your fund $10.5M So here comes the big question.

Did you sign any Deed of Assignment in favor of (MRS. JANET MILLER)?. thereby making her the current beneficiary with this following account details: MRS. JANET MILLER, AC/NUMBER: 6503809428. ROUTING/122006743, B/NAME:CITI BANK, ADDRESS:NEW YORK,USA We shall proceed to issue all payments details to the said MRS. JANET MILLER, if we do not hear from you within the next two working days from today.However, you are advice to email the bank immediately and confirm to them also if MRS. JANET MILLER is from you or not.

1) BANK NAME: IBTC BANK PLC
2) CONTACT TELEPHONE: +234-7035 384 082
3) CONTACT NAME: MR.KENNETH YINKA
4) OFFICIAL E-mail: standardibtc-herteredbnk@info.al

Please note that you have less than 48hrs to get in contact with the paying bank before they proceed to issue all payments to the said Mrs.Miller.

Thanks

Mrs. Farida Mzamber Waziri
--0-677537263-1299747880=:33430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 10:32:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31C70183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D78A8A6.9070303@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:32:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Duke CC: mark francombe , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, STAN CARD , DUKE SEXTON Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) References: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:32:13 +0000 (UTC) On 3/9/11 10:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I am there Rick! Don't forget the case of complimentary black earplugs > for the audience..:) > Silly me, I forgot that entirely. and you know what, I actually think they make black earplugs. what a great gimick for a performance to hand such a thing out. I have been silly but I'd love do to something like that for Y2K11. You guys are all so inspiring to me. 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I intend to = part with 30% of this fund to you as gratification while 70% shall be for m= e.=20 =A0=20 This transaction is purely legal and practically no risks involve, it will = be a bank-to-bank transfer.=20 =A0 I await your positive reply for more details. =A0 I end here with much love and also with much respect to you.=20 Best Regards=20 Mr Joseph Kuma. --0-1165035826-1299754381=:32756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


 From Mr Joseph Kuma.
 
Greetings and best r= egard.
 
I am Mr.Joseph Kuma a 41 years old,from Cote D'Ivoire.= I am the foreign payment consolidation manager of  a commercial Bank i= n Cote D'Ivoire .I find your contact in a business directory and I decide t= o contact you immediately for friendship and business of mutual benefit for= you and me.
 
My branch made excess profit of $'3,500.000.00 du= ring the last fiscal year, which I placed in a secured Account  as a b= onded fund in our bank since I have already submitted 2009 approved end of = the year report to our head office.
 
In essence,I need your tr= ust to stand as the original depositor of this fund, so that the fund will = be transferred to your company or private account immediately.
 I will use my position to influence this project in other to expedite the = transfer by our bank head office to your foreign bank account . I intend to part with 30% of this fund to you as gratification while 70% sha= ll be for me.
 
This transaction is purely legal and practical= ly no risks involve, it will be a bank-to-bank transfer.
 
I aw= ait your positive reply for more details.
 
I end here with much= love and also with much respect to you.
Best Regards
Mr Joseph Kum= a.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:04:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBB9F183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: DL4 expression pedal Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:02 +0100 Message-ID: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcvfI6CAdPcQpsohTaqYQrp1rJ1XAQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:13 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I currently run in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control several parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is your experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I was only successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work according to the LD page) but it only changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals have no effect at all. The last time I saw Eiving Aarset, he controlled the mix with an expression pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay gain and delay speed - is there some trick how to control several parameters, or can one only do one at a time, having to unplug and recalibrate the pedal every timeone wants to control another parameter? or can it be changed on the fly somehow? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:06:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2479A183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 615955.81821.bm@omp1034.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=x3ybSgklvu2U8J/l/Yo8yXD8GP6zx+yZAG9WUlzpLXul8Wrb1FX0PLAFxpyv5Snj8egufaW+3cTzX0o9/yEAUhGfcjaJv9vccwzArIANRuPqT4NXVCMIWGvLJhELisA71Fvp6v1JFxW/qi1DrIp1uY3WeiUlANjFkJlNZ2ICU2M= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1299762384; bh=vbSWMhNrs22zJV1mTH+nxwtz4tuotHmheigG9mqANVc=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=rW4fLk1ys5SaEr6DLFxt/AD0EYcD3Zx8/4bwbzBVMo6ba4ASQVHTJcpexC78C8KeSEkfe2htcbI+QEXNsKpjgLnlYqSVGUcBXZU1s4eserjRUjW2QxIEvEhm2wjHkF0TPKV6GyaUyzw8vILJezy/THrR8LDfUoHj7abYCz3YrhQ= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: d.wm2I8VM1nqxd8btrSHSNXrOt7lM2aQWGAf6zaPRXfhfvk rE_i9p6b0lPEduGvsb9iA1B8Wle8cjr0hx5OuR7L3vYte4axTBwJ9XKN5_Sq SI2xzvvLoRTbnIBwsf79cGHBLQCquQ6SR3CJcAndcYfElCXWMvZhG_BoPh0W ZPsuwas_Sk8wDiW41UFckWsnnxuPyqUxku6Wj7BusycDJfbWnqBlwq4xl2Do AsgqzyjGfqd4Qr0RYoIDUx8YhDoURPIyW.E50MRF_IBckZJYRqdbKrbCU2zO EiOTP0gprhwHVm123UogoKvt6x2C_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-44--667367072 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:06:19 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <43mITC.A.NuE.SzMeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:06:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-44--667367072 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed As i remember you twist the nob then this is controllable from the pedal. I think. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 10 Mar 2011, at 13:04, Michael Peters wrote: > I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I > currently run > in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control > several > parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is > your > experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I > was only > successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work according to the > LD page) > but it only changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals > have no > effect at all. > > The last time I saw Eiving Aarset, he controlled the mix with an > expression > pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay gain and delay > speed - is > there some trick how to control several parameters, or can one only > do one > at a time, having to unplug and recalibrate the pedal every timeone > wants to > control another parameter? or can it be changed on the fly somehow? > > -Michael > --Apple-Mail-44--667367072 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII As i remember you twist the nob then this is controllable from the = pedal. I think.
 
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 10 Mar 2011, = at 13:04, Michael Peters wrote:

I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 = which I currently run
in "loop sampler" mode = only. The manual suggests that I can control several
parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, = delay speed. Is your
experience that one has to = have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I was only
successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work = according to the LD page)
but it only = changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals have no
effect at all.

The last time I saw Eiving = Aarset, he controlled the mix with an expression
pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay = gain and delay speed - is
there some = trick how to control several parameters, or can one only do = one
at a time, having to unplug and = recalibrate the pedal every timeone wants to
control another parameter? or can it be changed on = the fly somehow?

-Michael


= --Apple-Mail-44--667367072-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:30:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 785F5183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:13:05 +0900 Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) From: Dustbunnies To: Rick Walker , mark francombe Cc: , STAN CARD , Jeff Duke Message-ID: Thread-Topic: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) Thread-Index: Acve8pmQ26MjRj8VTDOgpyG1GRGUFA== In-Reply-To: <4D785B3D.4050306@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1ZN5hB.A.5VF.nJNeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:30:16 +0000 (UTC) On 3/10/11 2:01 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Im in!!... working on my rider already... Hmm 6 pack dark ale, 8th of >> Morrocan, clean socks, and 15 9v batteries... > Don't forget the black pants, black button up shirts, black shoes and > black attitude. > > We can call our music BLACK NOISE (actually a great name for a band now > that I come to think of it). > > We're a go, then!!!!! > > Shall we all converge for Y2K11 in Santa Cruz for the first > DUKES of NOISE dream band performance? > > What do you say, Duke, Jeff, Stan, Mark? I say to hell with Sonic Youth and Glenn Branca. Compared to this lineup, they're just a bunch of pansies. As my (former) local faves, Big Black, made famous: Earth <-- Atomizer <-- Let's Go!!! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:31:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7887183466; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:31:04 +0900 Subject: Re: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: YOUR FANTASY BAND (Side Project) Thread-Index: AcvfJ2dMBBJqwmlETvGZjoCNB2EhAQ== In-Reply-To: <4D77D713.9060901@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) On 3/10/11 4:37 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > > THE DUKES of NOISE > > Jeff Duke on electric guitar > Duke Sexton on electric guitar > Mark Francombe on electric guitar/modular synthesizers/chaos > Stan Card on guitar feedback > Rick Walker on fretless guitar, tuned D-D-D-D-D-D (with every D a few > cents detuned from every other D) Bwahahahahah!! Just got around to picking up this thread. Thanks Rick, you flatter me too much! Gods, how could I ever say no to working with such a talented and creative group of individuals. I'm sure I'd feel like odd-man-out talentwise ("I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy..."), but count me in! Sounds like a fun ride, regardless!!!! --m. (a.k.a. the other Duke ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:33:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A63183466; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uduaMNzgEC9JNqJWviJKLB7T9GMEe8dGvdxqji9JVho=; b=YxXXGY0hfCiHOdMBh6dwPA3i7vVH36t29FykT4HBy+LGpGoVXLeTsay4yCB/fdgFgc urMWrtRPTiCCWoTov/Of7MlgH33m5EAlPE7Cx+zGFt6qUnVj3FsajPTn5AXd7/WoTw99 JHg163O8b1zDAyyG7Pvd4Aldt9nrxwVBMR+6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hRQF/pSs9XlLGz0kpvbEJFnNlOtiokOrgifd0hdQImmxlMtV5+YOg88O7F1+p073to WBm3FKEb8BaYqGg2KjoEwB0axKM1lnxLFyvE/HlkoDFdljTJoqRKeidiw5ptMgmAprhD 4FHdV2dlMgiJwvWfSt2s0N/L9SD0/SMUuS0do= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:33:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023543a2874157550049e20e35a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:33:14 +0000 (UTC) --0023543a2874157550049e20e35a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Other pedals should work, and you should be able to control the other parameters as well. I once made an expression pedal for my DL4 out of a cheap volume pedal myself. It worked, but the potentiometer had the wrong characteristic, so most of the way nothing happened, and on the last bit the changes were radical. But worked in principle, and I could control the delay *and* the mix of the loop. Hope this helps. 2011/3/10 Michael Peters > I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I currently run > in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control several > parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is your > experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I was only > successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work according to the LD page) > but it only changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals have no > effect at all. > > The last time I saw Eiving Aarset, he controlled the mix with an expression > pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay gain and delay speed - is > there some trick how to control several parameters, or can one only do one > at a time, having to unplug and recalibrate the pedal every timeone wants > to > control another parameter? or can it be changed on the fly somehow? > > -Michael > > -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --0023543a2874157550049e20e35a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Other pedals should work, and you should be able to control the other = parameters as well.
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--0023543a2874157550049e20e35a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 13:34:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F173183456; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b301cbdf27$fa64a6d0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:35:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110310-0, 10/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <5yqsyB.A.vlF.0NNeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:34:44 +0000 (UTC) I use a very cheap Proel expression pedal with my DL4 and it works fine. In loop mode I just use it to control loop mixe, but you cand also control other parameters at the same time. It will only retain the last setting that you saved, but you don't need to unplug it to recalibrate. As Matt says, you can just twist the knobs to change what is controlled, but unless you save those changes, it will revert to previous settings next time you plug it in. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: DL4 expression pedal > I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I currently run > in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control > several > parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is your > experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I was only > successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work according to the LD page) > but it only changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals have no > effect at all. > > The last time I saw Eiving Aarset, he controlled the mix with an > expression > pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay gain and delay speed - > is > there some trick how to control several parameters, or can one only do one > at a time, having to unplug and recalibrate the pedal every timeone wants > to > control another parameter? or can it be changed on the fly somehow? > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 14:14:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4663183466; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587695774/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoCAHZreE1V0rNq/2dsb2JhbAAMmQnPdoViBJAB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,295,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="587695774" Message-ID: <4D78DCB9.6050402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:14:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:14:14 +0000 (UTC) I think it has to be a Roland type expression pedal. I don't have the manual, the only item I have from that era of Line 6 stuff is a rack unit, and those had a different way to set the pedal. There's some kind of sequence where you put the pedal toe down, set the controls as you like, then roll back to heel down and set those controls to *any other setting you like*. I did try this with a DL4 once, and it worked, but I seem to remember that the settings didn't always "take". It's complete parameter morphing, but obviously you can't morph from one algorithm to another. iirc the DL4 doesn't have presets, so you only get one "morph" without re-programming. andy Michael Peters wrote: > I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I currently run > in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control several > parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is your > experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 14:33:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EF24183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 582567810/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.179.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.179.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoCACZweE1V0rNq/2dsb2JhbAAMmQmXJbhXhWIEkAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,295,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="582567810" Message-ID: <4D78E10D.5090802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:32:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> <4D78DCB9.6050402@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D78DCB9.6050402@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > iirc the DL4 doesn't have presets, so you > only get one "morph" without re-programming. Or does it let you save your setting for each of the fx? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 14:51:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4634F183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nCGehiibnpOyerTgwROPsPP9LoXZtzkK/0M4Bhesn+k=; b=n5BYxiyv45AiP0QGq1nQXE6b4j7uBdD9YWEPDestdACd0R+8RwsXXesu+2DIxhFxrJ GysRfpHyjHyi8O08W5E9F2qlzzUm6ySMnpud+stJElGBPcgcqynjhTrFPULl4cmGysUq 5Vqg+y0W3Lrd+7Xvq+141Vm4VtCxREeCPjucY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R250UvczBqHqk8ADxDvofl6+FhG3sxpwgzV69CLx+bhB3Zuk8OSgmAM5JZIJLz343B nP4IcB3H0tI7bDdGniDNnciRyEpQOTWHeFFIcIRiJ3BySRaQPtrtaYE7tIVqFhqgNpLJ gZU7jeH1lOHNeW8+02Ae4ivHVlGTcjORzVTbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad1e851c49049e21fa0d Resent-Message-ID: <0XmoVC.A.MhH.pVOeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ad1e851c49049e21fa0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "I also noticed that more often than not, Bidule crashes when I open another layout while one is already open. They say this is due to the poor programming and memory handling of one or more of the plugins I use. This seems to be a downside of the modular plugin idea." hmm...just tried to replicate your problem and failed. i have multiple sequencers running, multiple vst instruments, multiple effects, etc. every time i opened a new layout without stopping the current playback, it simply stopped playback and loaded the new layout. but like simeon said, i'd remove that potential monkey wrench from the gears by simply truncating the current audio. "I too made that false assumption first. The name "Audio Switcher" may be misleading because it works even without an audio through-put. I have used that technique in Bidule setups to activate and deactivate huge systems of MIDI driven software instruments and effect plugins. Just look at it as an advanced and totally programmable "on/off button" :-)) If you "don't know", just set up a small pilot test for five minutes to see how it works." thanks again for the insight and clarification...i'll have a look at it in the manual (bidule really needs a better manual) and of course dummy something up and go exploring. i'll report back once i've come up with something...in case anyone is curious. - jim --000e0cd6ad1e851c49049e21fa0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I also noticed that more=20 often than not, Bidule crashes when I open another layout while one is=20 already open. They say this is due to the poor programming=A0 and memory=20 handling of one or more of the plugins I use. <sigh>=A0 This seems=20 to be a downside of the modular plugin idea."

hmm...just tried = to replicate your problem and failed.=A0 i have multiple sequencers running= , multiple vst instruments, multiple effects, etc.=A0 every time i opened a= new layout without stopping the current playback, it simply stopped playba= ck and loaded the new layout.=A0 but like simeon said, i'd remove that = potential monkey wrench from the gears by simply truncating the current aud= io.=A0

"I too made that false assumption first. The name &q= uot;Audio Switcher" may
be misleading because it works even without an audio through-put. I
have used that technique in Bidule setups to activate and deactivate
huge systems of MIDI driven software instruments and effect plugins.
Just look at it as an advanced and totally programmable "on/off
button" =A0:-))

If you "don't know", just set up a small pilot test for five = minutes
to see how it works."

thanks again for the insight and clarific= ation...i'll have a look at it in the manual (bidule really needs a bet= ter manual) and of course dummy something up and go exploring.

i'll report back once i've come up with something...in case anyone = is curious.

- jim
--000e0cd6ad1e851c49049e21fa0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 14:58:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF097183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kJz8JBnUHsM9QebthOOzaum4+SG7McxZHijIZfNZJ+M=; b=BqljvlZXRNuotff6AStRKm3sXT3RtYS96tnMGqL6nKwBHCHi0NjxcqXC9JDRw+d08H l4kEHDq39vTuYHbq4ssX4mdf4yN98jGhZtvkCXMHNIoXKdsawANMFCNGGkq5Pu57YFsU YurFakU/kNDir+SfgXPZF6OY2okOM4W7TD6ok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ogiw2nJGLdC+uRPyjwwr9NbtqbK/zNIn7aZz2hl0cSqWK+ORStwN6hp8DqBFHU3nMY UO6YE1j+c4UtZOpCSuXAhq+er2OK+VDcTs7RNXcG1HFDmA4QOqrwNqZxb0LDtaDiXqA3 zLETRW8dQvGX6wiZZz3JwrygvgdHQ7dv5XeHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:58:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:58:45 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:51 PM, james fowler wrote: > i'll have a look at it in the manual (bidule really needs a better manual) > and of course dummy something up and go exploring. Yes it indeed needs a good manual! There seems to be a lot of nifty keyboard commands to make programming in Bidule faster, but I haven't been able to find any listing of that. Only comments by the Super Bidulists at the Plogue forum indicate that this holy graal exists. > i'll report back once i've come up with something...in case anyone is > curious. Good luck! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 15:15:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11F63183466; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=NmLXSKwztZWBjs9tgZHRo1Qs7M/Msju0tknfFPr2yVY=; b=rj7GdSKjX4ugEWhEhwRn7W+MRTPF4ttnJ1cB74wRl3dZWWLrw8PfkNWalnZ4o8GOmT tYz9i+0nTUxACo3tpBRkTALbPQTwnagkvR73WW3b7vISIlp63I59/zCRkB1BZd4BlcFQ dqlQdCDmGNDZobi7MrrroTgzJ7fIyXMQZB40M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=x/9ywV+H6Fx1Prb7lvheG/smF6FNRMUqxLdbN0QtbbLowiV3POZzBzNcKmyAQDkDDV BPb9PGo9VL82wUhMWtLzFxErcsj7TW0vO/L5EuueKoqYKh2w7TjVvJu2IpeNU9cdgzk1 frXE1+Iehgns+E2v4zHx7DdhTwgooscrw0PgM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:14:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per for all these tips in this thread. I have a Win7 partition = that I have been tweaking on my macbook, I have bidule, and mobius = installed and I think it's ready to start testing. I hoping I can get = around the random nasty audio glitch I can't seem to troubleshoot by = using Mobius on the Windows side. This thread couldn't have come at a = better time. I'll be able to use my soundtoys plugs as vst but what do you recommend = for EQ or compression on the windows side of the fence? I'v been spoiled = using the built-in stuff in Mainstage. -Todd Matthews On Mar 10, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:51 PM, james fowler = wrote: >> i'll have a look at it in the manual (bidule really needs a better = manual) >> and of course dummy something up and go exploring. >=20 > Yes it indeed needs a good manual! There seems to be a lot of nifty > keyboard commands to make programming in Bidule faster, but I haven't > been able to find any listing of that. Only comments by the Super > Bidulists at the Plogue forum indicate that this holy graal exists. >=20 >> i'll report back once i've come up with something...in case anyone is >> curious. >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > Per >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 15:23:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 907EC183459; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00eb01cbdf37$217433d0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> <4D78DCB9.6050402@tiscali.co.uk> <4D78E10D.5090802@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:23:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110310-0, 10/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:23:24 +0000 (UTC) You can save one setting for the looper, and four settings for the delays. You select the saved delay settings with the four footswitches and the saved looper setting returns whenever you switch the selecter knob to Loop Sampler. So that's a maximum of five programmed "morphs". Not sure if I have explained that very well, but hope it helps. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:32 PM Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal > andy butler wrote: > >> iirc the DL4 doesn't have presets, so you >> only get one "morph" without re-programming. > > Or does it let you save your setting for each of the fx? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 15:33:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D150183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KR7ox9OeSEpKmYtDOifIY7t7AEk+uz89JxK6EnwuQQE=; b=JbrythtpoztibzHhhZrw7AV2YHY104NU2OgaOPSbiubfME6iAOchhfzoqtgTQakxSO B9R+1iCUxN/GIra/xlzPx/YR2uA8NzAjTxC3OJlaaKLD372yDmS693i4EYD3HwatuEzh D/djQO1DtQFPqT/Qv6FNsB+XZNM5FW7ZezP6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FcJmDjIaqa51V4qXNpD6WtHlZfDavZ0JR+kN0vEjioLvEfmp/LMprmiw7c5+5/M2ZY NTDei3yU4n+8iTJe8cPEBaxeU8h64ndoDsNzfLfluQgYMOUovQgtOZt1frFB1v7sHFgk 9U8WyZeKhRdECKKZzNL2S5OH/oRU6klNoq5UA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:33:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > what do you recommend for EQ or compression on the windows side of the fence? Hi Todd, Long ago I bought the EQ and Compressor plugins from Sonalksis and have been using them a lot under both Windows and Mac. The reason I bought Sonkalksis was that by the time no other compressor plugins could work all inside the plugin buffer, meaning no extra latency added by the plugin. I also like the sound of the Sonalksis compressor; it is by no way transparent sounding but I just like the way it colors the sound. STill today I use them in Mainstage. The are not better then the Logic/Mainstage compressors in a technical sense, but sound cooler ;-)) and I always use them in Live instead of Live's compressors that I have never become friends with. On Mac I use to slap a four band multi compressor on the main output to open up the sound a bit (Apples OSX free Multicomp, or Logic's if in that app) but for Windows I never found an alternative. I don't "just compress stuff" but make sure the sound I play summed with the loops I create balance each other with a rather linear curve through the frequency bands. If not taking that approach, compression might make the music sound worse. I like the feel of playing and looping through compression :-)) Similar to the feel of having new strings on an instrument, "just a little more of all good things" Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 15:58:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F222183462; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YqrKQMoKOHON7EdT9+JraM5yurVievuO4stRA+OTuFE=; b=Gg43e7vF0GG4WfCJfGo5W1mEIfWGOrAPfGtRy+bI5i2ZmvDiZA45sir4A5DohutRj/ 5s3TfMerjiKF+G+J2kMqs//hLzqoD0wFI13bfjd+VO3Zvu0DdTq+CyAQD0iJ1UD1sdUh UMcEtcEmj1GgEjJFiAMhUc900hzR1AmKsEMa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N/UK561kbYyJHUAMvqOExm+LKokNx4cOnif2CR0XZ4vtkj3CJcM0M3JDRTr5FcuktV Jf2LUfyq9IOEcrJzAS5d1C07TbogWHNb7EjXGvX7D1RjHmRZmMoKMBgqeZulGT/I71mZ 1qVw2VSwWaKTlR8uSC49ccWHGFFH60yIqinb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00eb01cbdf37$217433d0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> <4D78DCB9.6050402@tiscali.co.uk> <4D78E10D.5090802@tiscali.co.uk> <00eb01cbdf37$217433d0$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:58:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ba3fbade02f049e22ebed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51ba3fbade02f049e22ebed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That sounds right Steve, here is a link to the quick start guide http://line6.com/images/support/manuals/pdfIcon.gif j On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > You can save one setting for the looper, and four settings for the delays. > You select the saved delay settings with the four footswitches and the saved > looper setting returns whenever you switch the selecter knob to Loop > Sampler. So that's a maximum of five programmed "morphs". > > Not sure if I have explained that very well, but hope it helps. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal > > > andy butler wrote: >> >> iirc the DL4 doesn't have presets, so you >>> only get one "morph" without re-programming. >>> >> >> Or does it let you save your setting for each of the fx? >> >> >> >> > --bcaec51ba3fbade02f049e22ebed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That sounds right Steve, here is a link to the quick start guide http://line6.com/imag= es/support/manuals/pdfIcon.gif

j

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk= > wrote:
You can save one setting for the looper, and four settings for the delays. = You select the saved delay settings with the four footswitches and the save= d looper setting returns whenever you switch the selecter knob to Loop Samp= ler. So that's a maximum of five programmed "morphs".

Not sure if I have explained that very well, but hope it helps.

Steve
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andy butler wrote:

iirc the DL4 doesn't have presets, so you
only get one "morph" without re-programming.

Or does it let you save your setting for each of the fx?





--bcaec51ba3fbade02f049e22ebed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 10 16:35:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C770183460; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1AB619F3-5B93-415D-A3AB-891222AC71C5@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: DL4 expression pedal Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:35:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:35:11 +0000 (UTC) you should be able to control any parameter, and an ev-5 should work although It may not have nearly the range of travel. Just put the pedal to heal down, adjust any parameter to your liking, then push the toe down and do the same in the looper mode it will commit thst to memory without any write function. 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--mimepart_4d7945913f380_3400..fbbb4b828c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 01:31:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EDCC183462; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LZTmz4kNfDI37WWNGSfyhx6SDGCXJAZjYNGIKpKG8Lk=; b=NW18XXrtRAvGQY4/8qIdVMZFApnGJk0YgsxN0cu5lq5qi6RxyIqqX3cjU15MH4i62X 4/9uUr2TsLl3A9zojjDm6+BYOLOkQiTweGgXPIyjR9CLsaMLhFbOs49o0w2ckfRnje4w ceh8nlZEJsmQzKPESBD9uQSONmKxforZ6QGmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GqiS/70124Fk+gLB44us9lKyxFCP0mBVdNtSfSkxvc0patFgDjgQ9pYWp0aTu/RaXx 0HUcqJDGCfva1lTEedO+DBOU5su4vrEag61ejK/UixaOPZ/uWXOvFHgM4fNM1Fnz3u94 mZU8xw069OpboLIp70z92U9Cjr0UzIWg5IoTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:31:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: new boss pedal? From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151759366c328398049e2aeb08 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) --00151759366c328398049e2aeb08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the link that is listed has been blocked from my work & home web looking. what is it? just curious. s--- --00151759366c328398049e2aeb08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
the link that is listed has been blocked from my work & home web looking.
what is it?
just curious.
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--00151759366c328398049e2aeb08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 01:36:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 452D5183463; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nYDf9qA/R11fHfFPqvU9XForyrDvBzPW0DYxK5AmUS4=; b=Th5fSwrn1rbsPUBUbRv1k9HqSNGHO67IL1GpruV+MucNHgkFrOZfF36lHBgge1GejI kS4F/jjAoTcMtuIhuQSehkYT5qTHV73pHZvBgql4K15gJN5nXDWZyuKDnMOqN9bg6mDm LFmYauw8CuHt1jWYseYY2Z3jWhgK391PcoTKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b4ZKLCFn45/Ps9OIutIdFRhsHxNrnIBxy3hxVRjnR+IiX9c+GDBqTr9RVWaIafEcvt JiHqb1fzNQQM6Vy8V3hX1xRXuV9jxKhf0CVAT5oH6QajG80yvifhaEFRPamVp1QU7IL4 lOWTQL+GWG1XE0W9utfK2bjz5tcVb3gdWUlpw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:36:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OT-EH killswitch... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8a661dfba4049e2afff3 Resent-Message-ID: <0GWJhB.A.7rF.1yXeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8a661dfba4049e2afff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmmm, looks interesting, and yes it is cheap. makes me miss my main guitar that finally had all the electronics perfect in it, wthen the neck went all WONKY on my 2 weeks ago. i have on/off switches for pu's, so i can do the killswitch stuff which can be fun.... of course i think the master of it it buckethead w/ his killswitch installed on his Les Paul, he's really good at those stutter effects w/ it. when i tried to install the switch in one of my old projects it didn't work (it' s a radio shack part). so i don't know if buckethead has some higher quality part or what-(which would be my guess)...tom morello also has a similar switch in one of his guitars...i think he has a toggle switch... guess i need to get my guitar on my workbench done quickly.... s--- --0016e6dd8a661dfba4049e2afff3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hmmm, looks interesting, and yes it is cheap.
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makes me miss my main guitar that finally had all the electronics perf= ect in it, wthen the neck went all WONKY on my 2 weeks ago.
i have on/off switches for pu's, so i can do the killswitch stuff = which can be fun....
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of course i think the master of it it buckethead w/ his killswitch ins= talled on his Les Paul, he's really good at those stutter effects w/ it= .
when i tried to install the switch in one of my old projects it didn&#= 39;t work (it'=A0s a radio shack part). so i don't know if buckethe= ad has some higher
quality part or what-(which would be my guess)...tom morello also has = a similar switch in one of his guitars...i think he has a toggle switch...<= /div>
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guess i need to get my guitar on my workbench done quickly....
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--==frontier== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 04:54:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719B2183460; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HGCBhk4AhHpXPfiTWv6r0MC/9MNg+kicZYOYA8C56IU=; b=HGjS8OlKeZ0b1D/oEgOTH1VwDpwXeS/hNgmxQbMZawuVDmhhMm+YDsNPPGlH1DHr4o Y8oBbE2wGKQ8n1rLf3xqxQ6RR+N59SObJ+JfFVM/UQV2S9xiqmChVzL4uMHFHkC4JF+Y 8RQMPrJnMeHo8zDIbudOz+YwZcswxDiiFDlng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=njBjGb5glAHxjcVBQiiN2gcxqVxUCq/J13CiWJt9DSFC1fJOarVMhArsS3aVR1fl9/ xY+UyTPYm4jTBgmiWK4vtjoDHGPI4YxcKJW1MNExcSyDxYdKTa6nHWgPUj/D9ZMm+9Td QU5E87M1ZP9dS6i1Ka2/6TlxlmAP9vmr3MtFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:54:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new boss pedal? From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da934b3df162049e2dc085 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 04:54:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6da934b3df162049e2dc085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try this one http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3D2766 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > the link that is listed has been blocked from my work & home web looking. > what is it? > just curious. > s--- > --=20 Keith Smith -Guitar Keith Smith Trio - www.keithsmith.ca Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai www.nl4tet.ca/ Photography - www.mymountains.ca --0016e6da934b3df162049e2dc085 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try this one
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--0016e6da934b3df162049e2dc085-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 06:59:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3366A183462; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RxJYhnuFmUJiVcfcKpn/aFFllk2jYLCCoKPIYW4uYC8=; b=uhNG7lIhxcjDQzSKFon2jBTVx8QFPKiOZubxh9H5aBwOop6sdj4hRb0g7xo66wv8pw w0JpvnSD15Td1QBrSreERsrbA74JNgmxUdjw9v+iQ8dEWvTtSi7ZRhY4GL7IEZftj1uU qwPotbLoLjBpO2ohyv4WqU2bAPlPw0Rcswczc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tgEtSkZ6KGaW+jprTJdpi9HNUFZeE4370l0Ap/diEQx/eaKlcmCAagQ0eFbZLTXdk/ 9zIsHDAEjasLhipbw5MCbMM+klIVpZP4RkAcEOTCD1tm0fNFyLh1Q5yQVIvnpTcG2zP7 vT3oVV5MpVCokJowi75n6umDi9Sh4XLqz/Iik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> References: <5C0233C95B3140FD98B49A3CD9C45063@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DL4 expression pedal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:59:37 +0000 (UTC) sell it and get the M9 Michael then you have the problem solved;-) no but seriously youd be very happy witht the M9 because it has a lot more to offer than the DL4,you can input all the fx into the loop,tap tempo them, 2 expression pedal inputs to morph delays and loop,pre and post fx for the loop,longer looping time and midi sync for all the time base FXs.They are about the same size as well.Its also handsome with all those colored lights and will make you look good and important in life. Well im happy and dont miss my DL4 at all;-) cheers Luis On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I'd like to try an expression pedal for my Line6 DL4 which I currently run > in "loop sampler" mode only. The manual suggests that I can control several > parameters with it such as loop mix, delay length, delay speed. Is your > experience that one has to have the Line6 EX-1 pedal for this? I was only > successful with a Roland EV-5 (which should work according to the LD page) > but it only changes delay speed. All my other expression pedals have no > effect at all. > > The last time I saw Eiving Aarset, he controlled the mix with an expression > pedal, but sometimes seemed to also control delay gain and delay speed - is > there some trick how to control several parameters, or can one only do one > at a time, having to unplug and recalibrate the pedal every timeone wants to > control another parameter? or can it be changed on the fly somehow? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 17:30:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573CE183462; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qR8FB0jBhtqwZEkYd4fDTC4WjlERZqOaBPmP2mqc7sU=; b=lt6t4XO6sCv4AWDEYF3SS5XBH4HsOBSdortwJM1Qayv1/YpekXESUE/7SwydMSbMNW kuv33YxRU6TOjc5unNky0kfaAmnBk+LZEVMrKUcWyd7PVlSJJAG3IiY2bo5ImCBLIj2s u3OwSIxStNN6otQlKZifdLoAgkSHYuAcn12rU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ihpa8KyZMl9z0xKRl7F46PSBfJ++lG03enSxxaxmvtfwMK6jHFlYCQQ34vFXpPibQs dqGBlqG8IfEnkEBmciziVCUmOK7wAv099oemgme+XIZoTIADFBHmnv6ga23R9Miybz7c 2+rytrhtZ4FEgbQJX4Dd49AifsCKm+wl0/Uc4= Message-ID: <4D7A5C48.7050502@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:30:48 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT-EH killswitch... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen schrieb: > quality part or what-(which would be my guess)...tom morello also has > a similar switch in one of his guitars...i think he has a toggle switch... Morello explained in a video (which I can't find) that he started doing this w/ a Les Paul by turning one of the pickups fully down and then using the pu toggle switch. To get that effect on a strat (e.g. Soul Power), he would install a toggle switch (as explained here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg-nF8jG3Hc, and here's the thing in concert http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cEeCsduGdo) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 17:40:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10818183464; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=d7Mp2hb/1ci2ImweVmQ6TR653D0b/ZaLxMgY6hs1sKE=; b=ZyI4dnIYuPVn3fV/1nxOTap+XaCj2L6GDo5JLsvls0D3XVHgpg/wEIAapQbKNUUXkb dmv0aMQ/pSgztAsp/JbS2pY7+jsWSeopArlqwhUitjMCwS2RuBBu4+aN3qaG+zHVsFtQ /2Ljbk5rr7Ys5YVM1XXh1iWIhebxXV3yhwf7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L7vBZh+GRJgMJBuc3Gtra69FQ8A6a/krts1rGVXDJZVFRGc3R7aU7Qbn/11S+vGw5t xrXYylpTsOOJDNjtBHhdle2ijmhRLv6HGwfoGA5PZ04BcHlLWwUEHSDVaKjUHvqCifa6 DNrwNgevXrspM+oPeDSXE90Fo89DzjOXEj8Ks= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:40:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: bidule question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4888a672631049e387537 Resent-Message-ID: <5omzsC.A.iaH.Q6leNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:40:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4888a672631049e387537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i use a custom colour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main layout much easier to see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you open a group, or bidule, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark grey background with green meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to change these colours? even changing the text to white would help me immensely. sim --000e0cd4888a672631049e387537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use a custom colour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main lay= out much easier to see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you open = a group, or bidule, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark grey ba= ckground with green meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to chang= e these colours? even changing the text to white would help me immensely.
sim
--000e0cd4888a672631049e387537-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 11 23:20:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DC9F183460; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer; bh=FPtJmy4vqlU6X6BcEYnvtijL05AV9317QF+9YW921Zk=; b=m+IKAXugis+9leyrGHp3+Ii100GphogIFhIcI4NbU+P+gvdnLA96UTHnPqn63G42CG 3rEzoos4ewYzfT/KLhFNeKD+VX3eoL4vkngvP5mxpiMWMR3P7xsczpfOtROfPLbVOF2r 5f+ji5m43Uxdckimi3TxFJdpaW5ZTItTf2714= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=srZdQ5PbZZzrmOYQki2/TMXpDhg54DmVEK691ktuyLpQeeDgaYe00J028WfTxYNLY8 /bCPpe/8x7oeilbS+84bsT9koygnsypQ+ARi6AxizUwMYCctKXMtTJvp6v4D4Cm+CC6t ldFlWuH6v8/jevEgClZ9KYCbepm7bv+as7Nr0= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--544157364 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Linnstrument Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:19:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-8UCcD.A.5wF.g4qeNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:20:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--544157364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Prototype http://vimeo.com/20858211 Sexy! Regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-4--544157364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://vimeo.com/20858211

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= --Apple-Mail-4--544157364-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 00:37:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BE76183460; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: OT: Linnstrument Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:37:38 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAE64D2BC9511-2290-3F54A@webmail-m126.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 00:37:46 +0000 (UTC) <> sez bobc much easier to schleap than my cz 5000s.....sez me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 09:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8154D183460; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9wktco99pazYw4d2DxBBUwUPip68qy2ks7D5zoEg84U=; b=eMaAplR4L2joz5RlQTSaR1Kg+T4Bn8Qy0fxpOxfwbuWp5294fSYikcl9wJmxyk2QCw JaC/yy5GecYLpXgwRNOrtw+mE9KvRDnTwx7nPwn0Qo27vbZI3dBi9Z6vmHF3MRA0DdNl S/c/jDhRS/PqAFPv5FnAiUOYDkvqSrxbFGYRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=Cv3bMwxSUcoJ8bTQjDnbaOFZXnYTDjRygcYgrq1v7VcSaWw8RFlcxMBS/rhBmlCHDl EATebp79L/ugcH1FnGBq6BnUmgMQYPykcU8OCZA6z7Fcef0wyxEJzdZzSlKwcBQatbaK Gl7oSRDp/qzXWArChxRNN8vP7Z2epvw2HVoXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:10:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G1X3qpgq03xHTCwhghoOyhkMwS0 Message-ID: Subject: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e84aa4f4e5d049e4574a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:10:50 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e84aa4f4e5d049e4574a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I know , I know.. its been talked about on LD since the invention of steam. BUT its been a while, and Im going throught a selling and buying phase, and looking at problem areas/improvments that can be made to my rack. It is and always has been ... the mixer. Currently a Behringer Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, pan. and its really OK. Maybe a tiny bit hissy. But what else is there? Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) 1) 1U ... ok 2U MAX!!! 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) 3) 1 AUX SEND But this is what I already have in the Behringer, so Improvements for me would be. 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting the send on that. I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch. The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed. 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the mixer before this effect so its not a biggie) 3)A really basic EQ. So a quick run down, who uses what?, links to pictures and specs would be handy. Whats out there, anything new? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e84aa4f4e5d049e4574a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know , I know.. its been talked about on LD since the invention of steam.= BUT its been a while, and Im going throught a selling and buying phase, an= d looking at problem areas/improvments that can be made to my rack.
It i= s and always has been ... the mixer. Currently a Behringer=A0 Eurorack Pro = 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, pan. and its really OK. Maybe a tiny bit = hissy.

But what else is there?

Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post = if these are not available)

1) 1U ... ok 2U MAX!!!
2) 8 STEREO ch= annels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..)
3) 1 AUX SEND

But th= is is what I already have in the Behringer, so Improvements for me would be= .

1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wastin= g the send on that.
I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont rea= lly like that, because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop.= .. I want to do that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a = switch. The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I c= ould take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it ro= uted.

2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to pu= t my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting = the mixer before this effect so its not a biggie)

3)A really basic E= Q.

So a quick run down, who uses what?, links to pictures and specs would = be handy. Whats out there, anything new?
--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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--90e6ba6e84aa4f4e5d049e4574a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 12:29:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49F5618345F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583172810/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisCANr1ek1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSfPFoViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,307,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583172810" Message-ID: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:28:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:29:08 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Currently a Behringer Eurorack > Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, pan. > > Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) > 1) 1U > 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) > 3) 1 AUX SEND Alesis Multimix Line 8 (it's not hissy) ...and it's mod-able, the circuit schematic is available. > 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting the > send on that. > I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, > because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to > do that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch. I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible. ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal, and (i expect) some additional resistors. > The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could > take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed. while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the case here. Likely those switches are just single pole single throw (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy. My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster. > > 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put > my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting > the mixer before this effect so its not a biggie) another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use up the circuit you wanted for the aux send) > > 3)A really basic EQ. no ideas andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 13:34:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC465183460; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=caaabpAFNGWLrx5NKniIIy1A+1Kzda15hdTdTTYfjxQ=; b=yBOUBvc7qU+uTysZTINdsTZJvOQdh11a82Ov3XUfcPSfsu8khyPgYoODMrV5fN9N31 R6IJAI3j6U9qd9QLZMsisxwXxM1qNHK0NDXFmgkAwyWnhV19CkBptwpQe/Fj2yYFGIDW BI5744Jvxm34ehHO87PNvgLw0L5ZQocy1I3WY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kq7+rB2UnYwGasEfc54Nmb6BGBIdw8Ad3GwfOAR78CrpA4OI8xbqKB0AsV0/B/WYFK VJg9w03qo+s3nYe/qsJB8TJpImRwLVbDMRZTjRJ9W7NIIluZTVCfns8XDm/ZmOJ1nGEi 9OHKhqpE3i05D3HXMs/55vd8lJ8E4gfAjJies= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:34:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mixer options for using SW live From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, in dealing with my RME soundcard and laptop with ableton i realize that having instant access to a master level and a panic mute button is crucial,the RME 400 is nice but scrolling for the master level could get dangerous playing live,and there isnt a physical mute button on the front either. So what would you recomend? there are some many options outhere,like a controller to control the RMEs total mix virtual mixer,a simple nano patch,and all of the hardware stuff to control ableton like the akai APC 40,launch pad etc. but since i dont have much experience with this i rather hear your opinions. also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex? thanx Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 13:38:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCDF5183460; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=87rVUP9yUXqfIW9qnnXWCkKL6YQH9Ztp8AwSS+M/rUM=; b=V0gI2MzB1ElycS7sz5/RQTUt8rrkM2PAgUD7iWuYyFo4zBXlimcnGm9zAvvHDG9Eix uO/LujkLjfmlqMtrs5Yc2er4oI2KBoZRG0EDPUgVys5eG1H4Q3PBpkm9aup3G8sNGyLB S95L+PxhDzwaZnsXMZi6irEdQL64BScCGJpLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=eUd/Lwm1NfgCihqi43rfNHR5v5rfo9xkLajSrkrSfg/FRoZQg1jakaT9xCYuVegwW6 O7h+W4ccStT5OFM35mYnj1kIgD16mMxePa3atNGKqEDi69XuP4/7Q46fV8/akM8FjP0M 7c4r1iRyhHe/Rrp6/HRp0dnVaw+FuhGL6Y1b4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixer options for using SW live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517491d54126b8b049e49303a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:38:05 +0000 (UTC) --001517491d54126b8b049e49303a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Louie, I was getting into the RME more deeply the other day, and though it may take a little something, not only can the RME function as a standalone mixe= r without laptop, but you can actually control it with a Mackie Control, or any midi controller, so looks like you're in luck! I have not tackled this yet, but I'm sure someone on the list will have mor= e concrete help, though if you need it, I can give you the exact page on the manual to look at! T. On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > in dealing with my RME soundcard and laptop with ableton i realize > that having instant access to a master level and a panic mute button > is crucial,the RME 400 is nice but scrolling for the master level > could get dangerous playing live,and there isnt a physical mute button > on the front either. > So what would you recomend? there are some many options outhere,like a > controller to control the RMEs total mix virtual mixer,a simple nano > patch,and all of the hardware stuff to control ableton like the akai > APC 40,launch pad etc. but since i dont have much experience with this > i rather hear your opinions. > also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the > computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex? > thanx > Luis > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 29th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --001517491d54126b8b049e49303a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Louie,=A0

I was getting into the RME more deeply the= other day, =A0and though it may take a little something, not only can the = RME function as a standalone mixer without laptop, but you can actually con= trol it with a Mackie Control, or any midi controller, =A0so looks like you= 're in luck! =A0

I have not tackled this yet, but I'm sure someone o= n the list will have more concrete help, though if you need it, I can give = you the exact page on the manual to look at! =A0

T.



On Sat, Mar = 12, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrot= e:
Hi gang,
in dealing with my RME soundcard and laptop with ableton i realize
that having instant access to a master level and a panic mute button
is crucial,the RME 400 is nice but scrolling for the master level
could get dangerous playing live,and there isnt a physical mute button
on the front either.
So what would you recomend? there are some many options outhere,like a
controller to control the RMEs total mix virtual mixer,a simple nano
patch,and all of the hardware stuff to control ableton like the akai
APC 40,launch pad etc. but since i dont have much experience with this
i rather hear your opinions.
also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the
computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex?
thanx
Luis




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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on = iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 29th. =A0The CD Relea= se party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0I'd be d= elighted to have you there.=A0

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rou= ge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still= available for the newly added show.=A0


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--001517491d54126b8b049e49303a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 13:50:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0273918345F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3fpNtXqq2qU0s1tReQ57R2vz1EoyBQ+kadLUPO7+Adk=; b=kNiFLlfBO00gM1zGy8YQoCppZHkl1JE4MD3Gt+JC++fueJygjXOtwDhUfsZs8lLlOp N7Ph8K283h6abGpIIlmAENvo5VITzLN8+TOx+EG/XLNKrLsCjLLZo+UN+f6o/vBGlLhi AronKFEo8DsYGy1ufL8MEe1TGBNdGhNwKc2/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k/E1DXUhNAzOK40LfIKLQtScKPirUlmqAaXX6iRJuOqN+wgVd3CBmSWo3LQAoEvXlI hvp1cigTDh7rR0ggoC6IaOXZZ4fzj6D4wteM+ulsYT+kQ7ebX4SEBIdwx6S2TaC/fYBI 7rXzZeTqLNcLWzlqevA0hT2QhOtJJhpolp29Y= Message-ID: <4D7B7A04.10405@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:49:56 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mixer options for using SW live References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the > computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex? > thanx > As already mentioned, the RME can work as a standalone mixer (which can be controlled by Mackie Control), and the Behringer BCF2000 can emulate Mackie Control, so that would be your lowprice solution. The BCF also allows connection of a footswitch, and this can possibly be mapped to any function in the RME (not sure about this), so you could even have a simple generic footswitch as your panic button (or an expression pedal as your master fader). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 13:51:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3008B183460; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=9u7/W/mpl6j7sNxAcunyNdUpzRMjPx//NsugxfqUT1A=; b=Xjo03R1vB9HRr5lxKnDdcYVqKDy/TiCvl7gVUxoD0g72HerBI+cOGAcRMwd1DzZUd3 CyaBqC2gSgt3OUo5bTCrGkk5J5LfKnYdmEM5f0ahvalpyiU8OyabLrgmEL1Bzvc8IpYP G5iBs2dk7kpYLdMf092NRLVKL4z59tcuBL/Hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=YGgKphz7mV0PSJBbUDTgPc8SXO2gS4IG7Qoh0OrAJhoamPCVG7MZcRILs7RlXjkYkI VsD3N3UVC7pVJhIPm4Yyv6H0h1aCh2Vd8UR8h6vAElOXxXHYXmEZBcl5/5kWu20XVqwj pHt9T5mcuk0VSwr4gbKffpWzKE43vYvW8nDB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D7B7A04.10405@googlemail.com> References: <4D7B7A04.10405@googlemail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixer options for using SW live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517491d546707f3049e495f64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:51:18 +0000 (UTC) --001517491d546707f3049e495f64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, I knew it. Someone would be able to go a little deeper. Thanks, Rainer! On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Louie Angulo schrieb: > > also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the >> computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex? >> thanx >> >> > As already mentioned, the RME can work as a standalone mixer (which can b= e > controlled by Mackie Control), and the Behringer BCF2000 can emulate Mack= ie > Control, so that would be your lowprice solution. The BCF also allows > connection of a footswitch, and this can possibly be mapped to any functi= on > in the RME (not sure about this), so you could even have a simple generic > footswitch as your panic button (or an expression pedal as your master > fader). > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 29th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --001517491d546707f3049e495f64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, =A0I knew it. Someone would be able to go a little deeper. Thanks, Rai= ner!=A0

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM, = Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Louie Angulo schrieb:

also is it possible to use the RME as a stand alone mixer without the
computer and use a controller like a BEHRINGER BCF 2000 for ex?
thanx
=A0
As already mentioned, the RME can work as a standalone mixer (which can be = controlled by Mackie Control), and the Behringer BCF2000 can emulate Mackie= Control, so that would be your lowprice solution. The BCF also allows conn= ection of a footswitch, and this can possibly be mapped to any function in = the RME (not sure about this), so you could even have a simple generic foot= switch as your panic button (or an expression pedal as your master fader).<= br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer

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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon availab= le on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 29th. =A0The CD= Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0I'= d be delighted to have you there.=A0

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rou= ge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still= available for the newly added show.=A0


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--001517491d546707f3049e495f64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 13:56:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0D8183474; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=/D1iEkE5cxsAUzsVWDLYDvxhRHszSrASbDMsNpXhjoY=; b=Sy/ra3WFphKfl+Swg3vVVszRkg6AeBmZj2nbwSIxGwKci5mwX+n6NAgTs6teZC+FD7 U2ITOrnUTBSmZ3UBxJzW/PT9ZTiagUoS7JqV3p9q2zr0HEFFnS8g/IQswbNr63cjIqMQ 4F4ovK84nqHcfP6CU3B13K2hlU7pPfDX37rC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=K5ugT/2ygrxmJ7hsuomIPy8b7QhDtvrTXCnl+J+e5ZOc2FfkmYQ8OrJCE3Wn6GJiO2 /Ww7uMTi4FOOMdXeCZXutwoVKoyNOiD9Hygnzn5xUO+lHF/MHz4a1dlpzPY+3r1+05DQ HdjVmHqVUF0UuGoQwKzoaF/gQPcozLTbzPRSQ= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--491561039 Subject: Re: mixer options for using SW live Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:56:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:56:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--491561039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I made a midi pedal just for muting purposes but you can use anything = that sends midi. The Mackie control protocol is based on midi notes and = the map can be found here: http://home.comcast.net/~robbowers11/MCMap.htm Make sure you are sending note on value of 127. That threw me for a loop = for a bit.(no pun intended) Then it Totalmix select Options, then Enable Midi Control. Then go into = the setting and select the midi port(Port 1 or 2) that you want totalmix = to respond to and your all set. -Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-1--491561039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = made a midi pedal just for muting purposes but you can use anything that = sends midi. The Mackie control protocol is based on midi notes and the = map can be found here:


Make sure = you are sending note on value of 127. That threw me for a loop for a = bit.(no pun intended)

Then it Totalmix select = Options, then Enable Midi Control. Then go into the setting and select = the midi port(Port 1 or 2) that you want totalmix to respond to and your = all set.

-Todd Matthews




= --Apple-Mail-1--491561039-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 14:26:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00D4B183473; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7B8297.1010409@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:26:31 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #727 for March 10, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:26:35 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110310.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #727 March 10, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Five Nocturnes" on O-Town Music. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Chuck Van Zyl September Cemetary MemorySpace (Synkronos) Twyndyllyngs Time Wave Between Space and Time (electro-music media) Dan Pound Liquid Body Medusazoa (PoundSounds) Robert Schroyder Receiving Signals Cygnus-A (Spheric Music) Richard Lainhart A Cloudless Sky Staring at the Moon (O-Town) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Lainhart One Word Staring at the Moon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Dreamwood Staring at the Moon (O-Town) Richard Lainhart Staring at the Moon Staring at the Moon (O-Town) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "White Night" on O-Town Music. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 14:34:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62ECC183462; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gJILDqgL38tzRxvFQ/4IR7BVPOnkDDdEwW6ITajZDtQ=; b=XH2XP6KPpWoxKLCiOeB4LFvxmPpJfbXcRud8HsA/eaqVS/CslUFNrwspfOdr9O5Tq7 ZVd21beZH+jidxYCriz1p68ak7nREOcdbUPLxQzQ0HsC46QYjKSyefGQFNWoFLkkBkph +e6sVA0+o0yqUrH+eoBku0zRz8Whv67up9pNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xZwB6xtskriV5onQlWJjsvhKfP0a9ZqWAF7OhqpF612Ao6hzJaUkU4xkPjieb2tWRb 3qNuEv3udZv0TpIHaKNCDQNPmNeCwOzS8Q14FkiV+1wBIyIkqQbM8BpeHhNXsxh3l3WP aFtRLHdKxOFsYwt92U8Hsg0To3Q6J0AWSg85g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule question From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad1e271b29049e49fb6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:34:51 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ad1e271b29049e49fb6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have no idea. i didn't even know you could upload your own color scheme. - jim On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > i use a custom colour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main > layout much easier to see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you > open a group, or bidule, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark > grey background with green meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to > change these colours? even changing the text to white would help me > immensely. > > sim > --000e0cd6ad1e271b29049e49fb6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have no idea.=A0 i didn't even know you could upload your own color s= cheme.=A0

- jim

On Fri, Mar 11, 2= 011 at 12:40 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wro= te:
i use a custom co= lour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main layout much easier t= o see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you open a group, or bidul= e, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark grey background with gre= en meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to change these colours? = even changing the text to white would help me immensely.

sim

--000e0cd6ad1e271b29049e49fb6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 15:17:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94DF0183466; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cNx+j9+pYjSvtmTrjGjwtXvDtJEXYXQEEADPdkYt54Y=; b=sxhcbWK8SQUDhBeUHnpqIl3MDTcie7vSruI1IN3RkR6Xikw4IBvb3NK+rLCuALOQD+ 8Wa0hobl1FUnClUj4XeZ1oXW4Ertw3xb1EWihJAtXf0brYRCtGAHHgFxquBzGNcQdCjV Th14zOnq3fjWzAtaYJFWP26qVBRXyAK0Y5Cbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dWnvktUiM36C3ru8qHi5cOqVghDnY16pmR5rNgVqQ0QcVY2dlPGjqgghLXvehH7xLo 9W1ppVxMuagv9tPNs2/Jnws8qfDW+cIEIDEB4KRxJlSS6GeVZ6/vtfGv/5sZHVNp2c41 7tDqI/36cveH7Zvkhj5aakclrtdiZSsDk7vhs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:17:50 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad8aeda8d9049e4a940c Resent-Message-ID: <1i12a.A.Hi.f64eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ad8aeda8d9049e4a940c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i posted this question on the plogue forum. you can download various "skins" and select them from the preferences pane. if you want to change the colours, you just need to change the RGB values in the skin file using a text editor. sim On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, james fowler wrote: > i have no idea. i didn't even know you could upload your own color > scheme. > > - jim > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> i use a custom colour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main >> layout much easier to see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you >> open a group, or bidule, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark >> grey background with green meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to >> change these colours? even changing the text to white would help me >> immensely. >> >> sim >> > > --000e0cd6ad8aeda8d9049e4a940c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i posted this question on the plogue forum. you can download various "= skins" and select them from the preferences pane. if you want to chang= e the colours, you just need to change the RGB values in the skin file usin= g a text editor.

sim

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, = james fowler <t= wostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
i have no idea.=A0 i didn't even know you could upload your own color s= cheme.=A0

- jim


On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i use a custom co= lour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main layout much easier t= o see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you open a group, or bidul= e, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark grey background with gre= en meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it possible to change these colours? = even changing the text to white would help me immensely.

sim


--000e0cd6ad8aeda8d9049e4a940c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 15:20:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FA2183466; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583207092/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACALMde01YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSnOFoViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,307,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583207092" Message-ID: <4D7B8F2C.3000008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:20:12 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bidule question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Yep, it is possible. Those colors come from the Theme of your Operating system. On Windows I can change that easily. Don't know if this helps if you're on mac. andy Simeon Harris wrote: > i use a custom colour scheme (biasco) with bidule and it makes the main > layout much easier to see (for me) as it has more contrast, but when you > open a group, or bidule, the colour scheme is still black text on a dark > grey background with green meters in the mixers etc (yuk). is it > possible to change these colours? even changing the text to white would > help me immensely. > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 15:20:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D3B183465; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L99ltp67RINDWiWHF0OWd5CrIbvDRO3q6baPn8xywdg=; b=RK9sCFfbtOmDjXgv9DQrS7WyOpPTNOvf3GR1WlMNd6qHQ9GrD4pcEAVtv6Klr4kuU6 wt1O1kHPOJSCILl+E2jC+gGvtjEb57bgEdHkpwBRbTd1Y4Lab3ZL3PblMEs0c6qPI8e+ jV/1pCNAkMtjsdyfDrz2U9G6f7aMEVra79lmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e85bEzObITVCbGgjMoim01jLo3W1xDUkk2QNuG1BWvBwW+gFokCFS4BFWSUVi5iigR kPjplTBTvR+YoXHv28EteHIvQAqDhnwmdPlVHP8vPnfKcrQppdj8QqojpA98q8fsaDUw FM9Xp4qlZZL2QbnbtSIBNfIVBTOAjsmK4u8Xk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:20:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mixer options for using SW live From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:20:47 +0000 (UTC) wow awesome guys thanx a million,RME rocks the only thing missing are the EQs,it would have been nice to have at least bass,treble and mids! On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I made a midi pedal just for muting purposes but you can use anything that > sends midi. The Mackie control protocol is based on midi notes and the map > can be found here: > http://home.comcast.net/~robbowers11/MCMap.htm > Make sure you are sending note on value of 127. That threw me for a loop for > a bit.(no pun intended) > Then it Totalmix select Options, then Enable Midi Control. Then go into the > setting and select the midi port(Port 1 or 2) that you want totalmix to > respond to and your all set. > -Todd Matthews > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 16:03:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E53A4183462; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <61E58693-8103-421A-955E-EA2BDE85D7FC@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:03:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! Thread-Index: AcvgzwBuOrhzZw75TZuJC5IpQg9BJQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2011 16:03:38.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C881C90:01CBE0CF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Best rack mount looping mixer ever, but 3u Http://Www.rane.com/pdf/old/cm86man.pdf Look at the manual see if you agree.=20 Andy o On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:29 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > mark francombe wrote: >> Currently a Behringer Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, pan= .=20 >=20 >> Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) >> 1) 1U 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) >> 3) 1 AUX SEND >=20 > Alesis Multimix Line 8 > (it's not hissy) > ...and it's mod-able, > the circuit schematic is available. >=20 >=20 >> 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting the s= end on that. >> I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, because= I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do that on= the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch.=20 >=20 > I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible. > ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal, > and (i expect) some additional resistors. >=20 >> The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could t= ake a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed. >=20 > while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the > case here. > Likely those switches are just single pole single throw > (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them > as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. >=20 > Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy. >=20 > My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster. >=20 >> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put m= y WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the m= ixer before this effect so its not a biggie) >=20 > another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use > up the circuit you wanted for the aux send) >=20 >> 3)A really basic EQ. >=20 > no ideas >=20 > andy >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 16:04:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52102183462; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4NgQpcX7zYHL3AYsvwdOv296xpUz6Lx+H2FRx3fTbG4=; b=KQoaFAs/+qeO/LWcTGv4xd9J5DYeuBJfOC+5Jb0TlwtPqyVTeLmFM2ZbLnk4N8YmKO lXkNKM0A2lRebsFwjFlQ4lJ82FemTWe2GEu1FspLvqKX/vjmN/FDx5CffQDYX05jLnVW r4U3K21DuqH/LSss90qPi2R/+/8kzND+bWsb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sZwiNnkX8BSbc5w3OjTm9v4qK6dwQDHIMX1PI478l6RMG2VVhWHLe0uzAYd/ELO5jp eNBH2UyoLOr0xjolAVon6yMEGQix6/i03oayvnKtCHny7Tt2iSkQt2VIxHT9lIfEpFmW 30C5uN2+vQWRyw9fxWU+ZetkSHkUFBBKdrjHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7B872C42B21340E2A9DC74174FFCAFAA@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:04:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bidule users - live usage & "presets" From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ab802d8804049e4b3c41 Resent-Message-ID: <6vnsNB.A.OmB.Um5eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:04:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ab802d8804049e4b3c41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 alright...i got touchosc to communicate with bidule (relatively easy) but now i've run into a problem downloading custom layouts to my phone from the touchosc editor. i figured i'd build my own touchosc layout to accomplish the simple task of loading new bidule layouts and everything was lookin' good until now. i get a "connection failed" message on my iphone. any ideas? this osc stuff seems pretty interesting... - jim --000e0cd6ab802d8804049e4b3c41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable alright...i got touchosc to communicate with bidule (relatively easy) but n= ow i've run into a problem downloading custom layouts to my phone from = the touchosc editor.=A0 i figured i'd build my own touchosc layout to a= ccomplish the simple task of loading new bidule layouts and everything was = lookin' good until now.=A0 i get a "connection failed" messag= e on my iphone.=A0 any ideas?

this osc stuff seems pretty interesting...

- jim
--000e0cd6ab802d8804049e4b3c41-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 16:26:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77344183462; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hSVSdx6sECTwtptj+G3anvD157BZH1CawUz3N8g8t+I=; b=UII8E1C2p01+1HtnQqRnIpQ7JqPjVTAaJJlZ9j0p84Sozzv5YpJ6C2ZoMj7ZNtxD7b xH/po5Z0ZYl59yiDIxAlj8L7AWPFnt8F/e5rBQBb9wkKXlLUhm1YixfML1PfaEA6Wzb4 FauLZ4a6m7By9F0MPhauuFRPEvxTwQ81eXZpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ehzUYugt0+kfLZvhs/A8K9kY3q6nEW5N7AOcgO2ltyqFOpFG9peyWSX+tyhNx7BHfo /+3Bf8EuqZXAxd5RFyHSHGodPPsjRzFQsuU4uNgvYvHrP2kbLTS5ZvtCthx8LXAw8SNl bMcVDDfpYPfUEdtB2ilyfq9coQvKEkMIzeJ7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <61E58693-8103-421A-955E-EA2BDE85D7FC@1800dialword.com> References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <61E58693-8103-421A-955E-EA2BDE85D7FC@1800dialword.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:26:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: l7wf9cw3OlPDr9CitQ0mOxEoEv4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfecc17a13c049e4b8b4b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:26:41 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfecc17a13c049e4b8b4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 main problem I see there is that it appears to be 8 channels, thats 8 too few... On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Best rack mount looping mixer ever, but 3u > > Http://Www.rane.com/pdf/old/cm86man.pdf > > Look at the manual see if you agree. > > Andy o > > > > On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:29 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > > > mark francombe wrote: > >> Currently a Behringer Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, > pan. > > > >> Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) > >> 1) 1U 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) > >> 3) 1 AUX SEND > > > > Alesis Multimix Line 8 > > (it's not hissy) > > ...and it's mod-able, > > the circuit schematic is available. > > > > > >> 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting the > send on that. > >> I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, > because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do > that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch. > > > > I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible. > > ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal, > > and (i expect) some additional resistors. > > > >> The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could > take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed. > > > > while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the > > case here. > > Likely those switches are just single pole single throw > > (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them > > as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. > > > > Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy. > > > > My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster. > > > >> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put > my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the > mixer before this effect so its not a biggie) > > > > another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use > > up the circuit you wanted for the aux send) > > > >> 3)A really basic EQ. > > > > no ideas > > > > andy > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf307cfecc17a13c049e4b8b4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable main problem I see there is that it appears to be 8 channels, thats 8 too f= ew...


On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM= , Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Best rack mount l= ooping mixer ever, but 3u

Http:= //Www.rane.com/pdf/old/cm86man.pdf

Look at the manual see if you agree.

Andy o



On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:29 AM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> mark francombe wrote:
>> Currently a Behringer =A0Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute but= tons, pan.
>
>> Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available= )
>> 1) 1U 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) >> 3) 1 AUX SEND
>
> Alesis Multimix Line 8
> (it's not hissy)
> ...and it's mod-able,
> the circuit schematic is available.
>
>
>> 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm w= asting the send on that.
>> I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, = because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do= that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch.
>
> I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible. > ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal,
> and (i expect) some additional resistors.
>
>> The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I = could take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it r= outed.
>
> while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the
> case here.
> Likely those switches are just single pole single throw
> (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them
> as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry.
>
> Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy.
>
> My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster.
>
>> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens = to put my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by put= ting the mixer before this effect so its not a biggie)
>
> another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use
> up the circuit you wanted for the aux send)
>
>> 3)A really basic EQ.
>
> no ideas
>
> andy
>




--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf307cfecc17a13c049e4b8b4b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 16:38:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1470183463; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=lbw2tF2fYtcxdfVEoMHPcHA5bFcp5RLh1i1Bjfz0FZ4=; b=jD4k+W1a7cT+yTJlEeBSoxms5zg3iooRfNiEt1MDrw8L8fmeEOUSfA0b+jfpJUzMwq SieFRaSiPtSIPHy3/JxzgDBgrXdxphcOuL+ZXZp5DEdxh/RyB+IsNuNPnoKjwWzykghS x6UyhkBL6yNbx/B4QU4m2Y2zLrJIwUUkOVxdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=R4erIDddDvAPAw91sH1iEFfmfi0NlVr7qMWwitRm2fBO4biqE/KywQxGTDXN7put/K wDzTv8vZ1FN7BtWU51LESSb06d+SFH2q8aqkObovMJ4aipNwFaBUZe+pEnq7D7C84ZsH wvBNYDbGZZeqne7+9NQZZTw9+ZpMs725kxLMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:37:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qQ5FWewjShTzcE2Z4CCIdWcdbIY Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cfecca1a07c049e4bb4ef Resent-Message-ID: <0vIlcB.A.oPC.6F6eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:38:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307cfecca1a07c049e4bb4ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the > case here. > Likely those switches are just single pole single throw > (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them > as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. > > like what? If I dont use the mute (I dont.. i wish it muted POST aux, but it doesnt... the AUX is pre fade tho, so thats nice.. I CAN turn down the channel vol and still feed the loopers... nice) *Idea* So.. First I de-solder the switches, and hardwire the connection,,, then I take a wore from the input jack to the de soldered switch, then I gather all the other ends together in one almighty blob of solder that is on its way out of the mixer somehow.. (nick the headphone jack maybe?) OK, heres where you think I need curcuitry? Andy? cos all the outputs added together will er (struggling for technical language here) take a load off each other and reduce output?, Hmm.. I just daisy chain all the inputs of all my loopers together NOW; and that works fine.... > > My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster. And theres no Behringer schematicsm is that right? I have to check.. maybe I do actually have one, but Im not too good at reading them... as I believe you know... > > > >> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put >> my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the >> mixer before this effect so its not a biggie) >> > > another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use > up the circuit you wanted for the aux send) Maybe I can do without this feature... But.. Im surprised theres no other options!! Even expensive ones??? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf307cfecca1a07c049e4bb4ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the

My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster.

And theres no Behringer schematicsm is that right? I have to check.. m= aybe I do actually have one, but Im not too good at reading them... as I be= lieve you know...



2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put my= WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the = mixer before this effect so its not a biggie)

another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use
up the circuit you wanted for the aux send)

Maybe I ca= n do without this feature...


But.. Im surprised theres no other = options!! Even expensive ones???



--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf307cfecca1a07c049e4bb4ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 17:41:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570DF183464; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592384235/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACADY/e01YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSnNeYViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,308,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592384235" Message-ID: <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:41:26 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:41:18 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the > > case here. > Likely those switches are just single pole single throw > (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them > as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. > like what? like a resistor for each channel, and an opamp with the same value in it's feedback loop. ...but hard to know where to take the power for the chip without a schematic. > > *Idea* > So.. First I de-solder the switches, and hardwire the connection,,, then > I take a wore from the input jack to the de soldered switch, then I > gather all the other ends together in one almighty blob of solder that > is on its way out of the mixer somehow.. (nick the headphone jack > maybe?) OK, heres where you think I need curcuitry? Andy? cos all the > outputs added together will er (struggling for technical language here) > take a load off each other and reduce output?, Hmm.. I just daisy chain > all the inputs of all my loopers together NOW; and that works fine.... ....it's fine to daisy chain inputs together, but not outputs. Outputs are low impedance, inputs are high impedance. So, chaining outputs does what you say, chaining inputs doesn't. You could just try using some resistors to connect each channel to the big blob at the output. You'd lose some gain...but that shouldn't be a problem sending to the EDP,as that has plenty of gain on the input. > And theres no Behringer schematicsm is that right? not at the component level afaik ..and I expect the Behringer is all surface mount components, not nice for DIY. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 18:46:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E91EE183464; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WLQU6V6PoQy2AxBq/fopHfS/BnEh7iTVTkVn9CLOUNI=; b=tOvYSfJypLTnKiQ3jFdKGRWcE/hB2XD4cW/OjBtia048C/K1H2R54z4EnSC8XxYZhe 1/eE0x9QmzYhvAX+1B8bGWPvBoTjumuJjKFNIxYu1PoCikO7++Y8hL5HxGCcFXKxwuwf 8vlqJ7bEjwOqnJNEL7cyBgpnPcmUHrXvSRRDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=W09kzr9uP/m47SLPihnUH1t+PHjluZN7fFx24NZfKVDgKsEfzG7E1w4zWzRAnF6DJy ygZDhbJMtmJ98J2NZ3w3o2QHTGqWSN0dBtbrxhhN+/EhKHjzObspxnMdT9eXXKFbG5iZ rU+KWSUxufCKXfjP6K9v9syQrS4Fuh9d5IYE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:46:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QnLzqjsjqlM13XSkkJdeiIX_VEA Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba613b0ec0ff35049e4d7e4d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba613b0ec0ff35049e4d7e4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:41 PM, andy butler wrote: > ....it's fine to daisy chain inputs together, but not outputs. > > Outputs are low impedance, inputs are high impedance. > So, chaining outputs does what you say, chaining inputs doesn't. > But these are inputs no? Inputs to the loopers (thats 2x edp and a repeater BTW, repeater has both left and right inputs daisy chaned too... doesnt have a normalised mono input.) the signal chain would be: Guitar >-------- INPUT JACK Behringer >----- wirefrom input jack to nicked MUTE button>>>>>> wire from MUTE button to nicked big blob of solder on output jack (either drilled new one, or nicked phones output)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then my usual daisy chain cable to all the inputs of loopers, with slightly increased gain perhaps? so.. why the resistors? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba613b0ec0ff35049e4d7e4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:41 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
....it's fine to daisy chain inputs together, but not = outputs.

Outputs are low impedance, inputs are high impedance.
So, chaining outputs does what you say, chaining inputs doesn't.
<= /blockquote>

But these are inputs no? Inputs to the loopers (thats= 2x edp and a repeater BTW, repeater has both left and right inputs daisy c= haned too... doesnt have a normalised mono input.)

the signal chain would be:

Guitar >-------- INPUT JACK Behrin= ger >----- wirefrom input jack to nicked MUTE button>>>>>= > wire from MUTE button to nicked big blob of solder on output jack (eit= her drilled new one, or nicked phones output)>>>>>>>&g= t;>>>>>> Then my usual daisy chain cable to all the input= s of loopers, with slightly increased gain perhaps?

so.. why the resistors?

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--90e6ba613b0ec0ff35049e4d7e4d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 19:34:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61C23183464; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592372521/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACAIFZe01YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSnOFYViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,308,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592372521" Message-ID: <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:34:26 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7ssnR.A.4eF.7q8eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:34:19 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > > the signal chain would be: > > Guitar >-------- INPUT JACK Behringer >----- wirefrom input jack to > nicked MUTE button>>>>>> wire from MUTE button to nicked big blob of > solder on output jack (either drilled new one, or nicked phones > output)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then my usual daisy chain cable to all the inputs > of loopers, with slightly increased gain perhaps? > > so.. why the resistors? right, just *one* modded mute button. For some reason I thought all of them. In that case it *might* work. ...but on further thought Are you really plugging guitar direct into the Behringer? ...and you only want that one channel to go to the loopers? If so, then best to get some kind of active DI, plug guitar into that, and daisy chain the output to the loopers *and* the mixer channel. ...but then again surely your guitar goes to fx first, so no DI needed, just daisy chain the fx out to loopers and mixer. ...or am I just wrong again? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 19:40:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D90818345F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7BCC46.1050409@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:40:54 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Well im happy and dont miss my DL4 at all;-) Really,to be really accurate, it should be said that the Line 6 M-9 it IS a DL4, with a little bit more recording time, the wonderful addition of a single 'undo' which also toggles as a redo.... ......and then all those amazing effects..........all this in a fairly small real estate package (considering how much processing is on board).... .....additionally, they have gone and improved a large amount of some of their weakest modeling pedals (especially, the distortion modeller) and then added a bunch of new effects like the amazing 'particle verb' and one of my favorites, the 'pattern tremelo'. The number of very musically useable effects is really staggering. I've had mine for over a year and I'm still discovering cool things to use, musically, in the unit. As an example, I have an entire bank of pattern tremelos to toggle between when I want really fractured/glitchy degradation of an ambient loop.......each pattern tremelo allows for four 'quarter' notes of successive square wave tremelo speeds that can be set as 'slicing' integers from 1-16. You can use up to three effects simultaneously so I set up 6 of them and every single one has a different set of integers set up..........you run your sound through 3 of them at a time, toggling between other examples and you can get very sophisticated and changing glitch effects. Just then add some king of warbling filter to the fun and it really gets some cool random sounds to manipulate with a second looper with glitching functions like an EDP or LP-1 and/or slicing pedal. To me, the M-9 is a desert island, single hardware looping solution. Add something like the upcoming LP-2 mini looper to the fun and you can have a very powerful, portable looping/re-sampling solution for only around $700. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 20:41:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B657F183464; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ncIZJrh+HcmDWsddCywTe+tJfXMDBD4t7vEGLECs4Aw=; b=U9WwqnQbFee49H0blOL9+/D4hxS1+9MDOfUtkqGkpiFc3hE/ACxgZ/fyZaf1MJvkYF XQgtslCj1ko2/FCaTU9yKAjSCA61uAFeDBGV5Vf4joLHhsVAseVcdhtrTEwzZr7A7VDm +1RD3nZUdX4gzYeULXnv118GbEaGo9zvAG/Wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZyyX/XJSY77xVLUaPzlOEj4WwavWp3RAxLQm6TKGWyO9XKqwKyCHLBYCw09g2HSGcu 8Qxs5K4UdFwGiXDVPy/33BA+78gho10xbyjnUW+q7bPJfQtDRvVaYohglS3bAixcc9Zt NinqFGJ2Ogz+Wn+2r3LxERyWFL3aipelssqpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D7BCC46.1050409@cruzio.com> References: <4D7BCC46.1050409@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304347006066ab049e4f1a98 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304347006066ab049e4f1a98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pattern Tremelo! Also one of my fav M9 patches! I am stealing this idea of a whole bank of them! Brilliant! j On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Well im happy and dont miss my DL4 at all;-) >> > Really,to be really accurate, it should be said that the Line 6 M-9 it IS > a DL4, with a little bit > more recording time, the wonderful addition of a single 'undo' which also > toggles as a redo.... > > ......and then all those amazing effects..........all this in a fairly > small real estate package (considering > how much processing is on board).... > > .....additionally, they have gone and improved a large amount of some of > their weakest modeling > pedals (especially, the distortion modeller) and then added a bunch of new > effects like the > amazing 'particle verb' and one of my favorites, the 'pattern tremelo'. > The number of very musically useable effects is really staggering. I've > had mine for over a year > and I'm still discovering cool things to use, musically, in the unit. > > As an example, I have an entire bank of pattern tremelos to toggle between > when I want really fractured/glitchy degradation > of an ambient loop.......each pattern tremelo allows for four 'quarter' > notes of successive square wave tremelo > speeds that can be set as 'slicing' integers from 1-16. You can use up > to three effects simultaneously so > I set up 6 of them and every single one has a different set of integers set > up..........you run your sound through > 3 of them at a time, toggling between other examples and you can get very > sophisticated and changing > glitch effects. Just then add some king of warbling filter to the fun > and it really gets some cool random sounds > to manipulate with a second looper with glitching functions like an EDP or > LP-1 and/or slicing pedal. > > To me, the M-9 is a desert island, single hardware looping solution. Add > something like the upcoming > LP-2 mini looper to the fun and you can have a very powerful, portable > looping/re-sampling solution for only around > $700. > > rick walker > --20cf304347006066ab049e4f1a98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pattern Tremelo! Also one of my fav M9 patches! I am stealing this idea of = a whole bank of them! Brilliant!

j

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 = AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
Well im happy and dont miss my DL4 at all;-)
Really,to be really accurate, =A0it should be said that the Line 6 M-9 it I= S a DL4, with a little bit
more recording time, the wonderful addition of a single 'undo' whic= h also toggles as a redo....

......and then all those amazing effects..........all this in a fairly smal= l real estate package (considering
how much processing is on board)....

.....additionally, they have gone and improved a large amount of some of th= eir weakest modeling
pedals (especially, the distortion modeller) and then added a bunch of new = effects like the
amazing 'particle verb' and one of my favorites, =A0the 'patter= n tremelo'.
The number of very musically useable effects is really staggering. =A0I'= ;ve had mine for over a year
and I'm still discovering cool things to use, musically, in the unit.
As an example, I have an entire bank of pattern tremelos to toggle between = when I want really fractured/glitchy degradation
of an ambient loop.......each pattern tremelo allows for four 'quarter&= #39; notes of successive square wave tremelo
speeds that can be set as 'slicing' integers from 1-16. =A0 =A0You = can use up to three effects simultaneously so
I set up 6 of them and every single one has a different set of integers set= up..........you run your sound through
3 of them at a time, toggling between other examples and you can get very s= ophisticated and changing
glitch effects. =A0 =A0 =A0Just then add some king of warbling filter to th= e fun and it really gets some cool random sounds
to manipulate with a second looper with glitching functions like an EDP or = LP-1 and/or slicing pedal.

To me, the M-9 is a desert island, single hardware looping solution. =A0 = =A0Add something like the upcoming
LP-2 mini looper to the fun and you can have a very powerful, portable loop= ing/re-sampling solution for only around
$700.

rick walker

--20cf304347006066ab049e4f1a98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 21:37:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE06A18345F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iB4DXYc9q0XIol7cA5a1U/SfE+wPKa5EbJMh0+jp0lw=; b=jifErHQuNPOYtj+4pkS5AwwYoeu1MZTh0txhkCo7Neu/Ow3uaOHiyqxUZb6lgMSTvT JchEfdPNsQktYmdqoq+TcpKZMn3edimYb4RlRdSVYIc+PTZ9d+7/BI50OhjGerOoXgDN SmZKZYu3HIagVYQdrGYDJLncOh2n1QnCcrw2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QVmom1W0Kq7GsZ6Go2cX7k3O7fMdV0mgitXOZ3GbnVvH+nGEvrDMIgACQJTEBor6NE 5Vv+bIY+ZOxWC8HobDoNMFBAVDrMfxvhj9SaSXF76VGU+gZKQhMBIWo3QUODwdUqSjqf tRFkBzRFoXuGXNBgXTF7rD2djhsRbLp29bk0o= Message-ID: <4D7BE7A0.40702@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:37:36 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: OT: "Darkness" - for the people of Japan (MSSS performance) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:37:38 +0000 (UTC) From today's MoinSound Studio Sessions performance: I decided to call the session "Darkness - for the people of Japan" and have it all dark ambient synth stuff. Gear used: Kurzweil K2600XS (synth voices), Ableton Live w/ Möbius, The Grand 3 and some other small VSTs (and the TC Konnekt's reverb), Hohner Melodica. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13273518/highlight/156828 Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 21:45:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94B0D183466; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110312135119.B835B183466@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-210--463410591 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:45:36 -0800 References: <20110312135119.B835B183466@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <0p6X1C.A.4c.Im-eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:45:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-210--463410591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Andy said; > , Alesis Multimix Line 8 > (it's not hissy) > ...and it's mod-able, > the circuit schematic is available. Clean enough to rival a rane SM-82? if so I would switch as my SM-82 was built during a period of time when they used a large wall wart power supply the size of a line 6 power supply that connected to the unit via a cat cable no less. i like that the multi mix has a built in power supply and is light in weight though my rane may be of more robust build quality and is made in the US. Bill --Apple-Mail-210--463410591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Andy = said;

, Alesis Multimix Line = 8
(it's not hissy)
...and it's mod-able,
the circuit schematic = is available.

Clean enough to rival a rane = SM-82? if so I would switch as my SM-82 was built during a period of = time when they used a large wall wart power supply the size of a line 6 = power supply that connected to the unit via a cat cable no less. i like = that the multi mix has a built in power supply and is light in weight = though my rane may be of more robust build quality and is made in the = US. 
Bill 


= --Apple-Mail-210--463410591-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 21:46:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0FFA183473; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=da0CHNPCtOPKvXS60UbkCsRhx5hUd977dYM/X+9VmOw=; b=HLpAbQmcgP+Yzu4xFmgg+QRSAigQteMj0zKSZ3NbIJOe1X7pJcjAAfStjDR6gAZavc 4yemgfJRYtUBBbeGG5gF3P9zS4QEeYgVH4UDhM82Ti1iGMoAZlCpnEkGPpba1kUviqRU YysSHbeE/tuhqsoASyapDBetmFN5bb63+s714= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pePiFRb617Cz5liDQHajbSSYmh/oY6wI2aXO6wdgHxXdMWEuVVEtYIM8c6RIQLNdFq zvpiHUn3dOlmtbmMqVHKivhkLPFZnK44MMdTNG/kwEU5/1pqL0aBQygtB2gPiyYWWRKq tV7CsQUmkdb7iqjroq7r/OGvA7YikUvPaGM5g= Message-ID: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:46:41 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BCC46.1050409@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7BCC46.1050409@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1VJV2D.A.lh.Bn-eNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >> Well im happy and dont miss my DL4 at all;-) > Really,to be really accurate, it should be said that the Line 6 M-9 > it IS a DL4, with a little bit > more recording time, the wonderful addition of a single 'undo' which > also toggles as a redo.... With all that praise by you, Rick, by Luis, and by many others, I'd just like to understand: The M9 is something which: * is only slightly bigger than a DL4, * has a longer looper with undo/redo * MIDI In/out (but not for the looper) * connectors for two exp pedals * up to three of any MM/DL/FM/DM modeler effects (plus reverb) at one time patched in series correct? I had my DL4 for quite some time, but with its relatively big footprint and small feature set compared to other devices, it has become kind of a one trick pony for me, when I want that sweep delay in a situation when I play with my (synth-based) hardware setup. In that setup, the Repeater is still the main looper, sometimes with the addition of the Eclipse (which has the timethingi stompbox algorithms). If I'm using the studio computer, then I either use OhmBoyz or Steinberg ModDelay for the delays, and Möbius for loops. If I'm using the live computer setup: the same. And finally for the portable "Nerdville" stompbox/noise setup, it's just too big to justify its inclusion (already with SMM w/Hazari and DD20 as loopers, KP3 as loop sampler, and T-Resonator as powerful filter thing). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 23:38:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE95183464; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UYqj/ogBiW1C2OrCqCAcXIRuHATHseNreChQEwuccEA=; b=AV6NvfEjKnIiuVDzJAXw7vqFDUH+qJuzpcrS9IQKy3+d8JKTWrg1R6JBv5yt0naFZX 06Uvlbnlm3QH7sunBrulA84sxqIOPIwj7Xm25c+DduvzJkWaKfaMiuniF9XuMoSYywlO YemUVAHvHqhkilj54qsVcjQvjBMB5vJzS9xAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=kLHmg8jCIrnPEwyayDvD8WCW7RT9+dS+83ZZwGlOLPS59MEUopHs/3hxs8MF31xadY OstjvVACI4ooNjspgava74UTVi97XW9kPdUGBDvpjg9KBm2iC5X+OVp0vGfR6+JsIKq3 hjp7w5Oj2176uh74CbC1KdD/DTmhg7vuKSW1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:37:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ROAhCmY0JSua4F5kDiM3grvVqNY Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:38:00 +0000 (UTC) > just *one* modded mute button. > > For some reason I thought all of them. No you WERE right... I was simplifying... There are 6 channels (ok 3 stereo) of guitar... so really its: GUITAR ________________ stomp boxes ____ TC Fireworx_____ Vortex_____________ MIXER 1/2 | |___________ Hex pickup splitter______GR 30 GUITAR SYNTH____________MIXER 3/4 | |____Pitchshifter / octaver (Low E string)______MIXER 5/6 AUX SEND _________Kaoscilator Pro _________________MIXER 9/10 | ______REPEATER L/R ________________ MIXER 11/12 | |______EDP1_______Roland 303 FX ______MIXER 13//14 | |______EDP2_______AIR FX____________MIXER 15/16 MIXER L/R out ____Kaos pad___FOH (phew that took a while to draw.. hope it works... fun though!) > > In that case it *might* work. > > ...but on further thought > > Are you really plugging guitar direct into > the Behringer? no via the Fireworx really... > > ...and you only want that one channel to go to the loopers? nope all of them... > > If so, then best to get some kind of active DI, plug guitar into that, > and daisy chain the output to the loopers *and* the mixer channel. > > ...but then again surely your guitar goes to fx first, so no > DI needed, just daisy chain the fx out to loopers and mixer. > > ...or am I just wrong again? Just lacking 5 channels... It DOES work how it is now..... but OH for that "loopers dream mixer!" -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 12 23:41:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 855C7183473; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RTjvvDp72WILkvjH+9ds6881Zz1nfPBMeNFKCmwkBuo=; b=Ilne1dBFT5R34tBUdC5N/F9xMni5sEvpWaU6cBe8qaGzNTyE5vnw4zbr3cGHvAL4VB nXZUn+LOjPz4PsWOb3w2KVP2oKcWwBttPKScki2/sLscagPSZ79co0nMsyPjCTQRcDa6 /KvRSwKyzHTkRHhN27EXEqR16CpdrkIe/Iwpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jdp/AIXRKK7GBIvdReehfnlUPWrPpMNNZLOCL49pA0EjT+TFPe9SvkN07km/EvBTHu 5wEO4ibrJndsXIRCs7c2FUHcIfn4w4zCExPqO4gsUCa7uLzr+dIw/JQW3pZQlayuciMB 4Gjowo2ZO7X2outDpNsUwW4lNw/PHnuV0ZxBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:41:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zG8yfchx0UndB5gCV7_IJFqC1W8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4ObVAD.A.IgC.jSAfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:41:24 +0000 (UTC) bugger it.. drawing wrapped... trying this... GUITAR _____ stomp boxes ____ TC Fireworx_____Vortex_____ MIXER 1/2 | |____ Hex pickup splitter______GIT SYNTH_________MIXER 3/4 | |____Pitchshifter______MIXER 5/6 AUX SEND _________Kaoscilator Pro ____________MIXER 9/10 | ______REPEATER L/R ____________ MIXER 11/12 | |______EDP1_______Roland 303 FX ______MIXER 13//14 | |______EDP2_______AIR FX____________MIXER 15/16 MIXER L/R out ____Kaos pad___FOH > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 00:21:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A52F5183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:21:53 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:21:56 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > I had my DL4 for quite some time, but with its relatively big > footprint and small feature set compared to other devices, it has > become kind of a one trick pony for me, when I want that sweep delay > in a situation when I play with my (synth-based) hardware setup. Yeah, Rainer, I understand anyone's hesitations about a large footprint in a stomp box pedal, and personally, with the addition of an LP-2 mini looper and an M-9, I also am not using my DL-4s anymore. There are also the concerns of how much gear one schlepps to a gig. I have a large 'do everything' rig (double rack cases, midi pedals, et. al.) and a run out the door floor pedal hardware rig. For running out the door I love the M-9. It, two cables, some kind of 'axe' and a miniature Vox amplifier and I can really play a lot of music with no muss or fuss and minimal setup and load time. That's pretty cool. There's actually a lot of sound processing under it's hood and it takes up about three stomp box pedals in size. Can you come up with a rig that does more things........absolutely and that's wonderful and I support you if you don't consider the M-9 for your purposes. You do have to take your computer, though, and/or rack case and your footpedals. Which really small footprint midi pedal do you currently use? yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 00:23:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6FA6183463; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7C0E92.3000809@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:23:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Duke CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:23:48 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Pattern Tremelo! Also one of my fav M9 patches! I am stealing this > idea of a whole bank of them! Brilliant! Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, Steal away, Jeff While we are at it, what are some of your favorite effects in the M-9 and the settings you use for it. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 00:40:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CFD1183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KPX7JtuRaSHK0Zy5W3MgHnfGgnuliZ0TjCbubw+RtuU=; b=eYpP4t4spFV6g9ZrveLsz2bn1ga52sEUOK3CxbzkxzOARyjTKfLctR6GoKbXFrwtg+ JnUVS7ZIrD8Sog9e2Ks+jMEyfCRuo6r0uEwphksc+3zg1ijcMK/ZozpioD5jeFBz7X4d cnBKTjFJFzwtxkzGmEkQRMeGb13CGjU/pWm/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RTujrlHeSacr/7zKgzfggspAexnXO2iYKMuVmfO0FQv/O6IJ7XinQKccC4Ufn5PdrE ng9/EE6gU10Q80U0ZIXLoRllNv3uoc+4A6auYVFYGKZZrTbyGAlnxCo3zlctBoef7BgX crmtRGP9ysoiNQc3bPz8W0AtQARltZb9uyms8= Message-ID: <4D7C122A.1030503@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:39:06 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Am 13.03.2011 01:21, schrieb Rick Walker: > You do have to take your computer, though, and/or rack case and your > footpedals. > Which really small footprint midi pedal do you currently use? Status Quo: still the Behringer (playing from or near home, mostly). Next evolutionary step: no foot pedal - means no footprint. Why? I don't like it that to tell the computer to do something, I need to be in a specific position onstage and move my feet in a specific way. Saving equipment size is an added bonus. How? Wireless human interface device (e.g. trackball) controlling the computer. This gets attached to the trombone (the way you hold a trombone, you have about three fingers on your left hand which always stay in the same position and don't do/hold anything, so they can control the trackball). The trackball has three buttons and two CCs (to stick with MIDI lingo). Which means that the setup on the computer works in some kind of state machine I'll jump around in using the buttons. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 01:32:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD30D183463; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <61E58693-8103-421A-955E-EA2BDE85D7FC@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-6--449820666"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:32:05 -0500 Thread-Topic: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! Thread-Index: AcvhHnttRIzsrDBFScuFH48RNmznyw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2011 01:32:15.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BE40280:01CBE11E] Resent-Message-ID: <_cN-m.A.BxE.h6BfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:32:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--449820666 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But there is a flex bus feature and with a midi cable you can add half rack s= pace rane mixers to it.=20 Ao On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:26 AM, "mark francombe" wrot= e: > main problem I see there is that it appears to be 8 channels, thats 8 too f= ew... >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= > Best rack mount looping mixer ever, but 3u >=20 > Http://Www.rane.com/pdf/old/cm86man.pdf >=20 > Look at the manual see if you agree. >=20 > Andy o >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:29 AM, "andy butler" wrote:= >=20 > > mark francombe wrote: > >> Currently a Behringer Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, p= an. > > > >> Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) > >> 1) 1U 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) > >> 3) 1 AUX SEND > > > > Alesis Multimix Line 8 > > (it's not hissy) > > ...and it's mod-able, > > the circuit schematic is available. > > > > > >> 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting th= e send on that. > >> I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, becau= se I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do that o= n the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch. > > > > I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible. > > ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal, > > and (i expect) some additional resistors. > > > >> The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could= take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed.= > > > > while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the > > case here. > > Likely those switches are just single pole single throw > > (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them > > as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry. > > > > Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy. > > > > My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster. > > > >> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to pu= t my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting t= he mixer before this effect so its not a biggie) > > > > another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use > > up the circuit you wanted for the aux send) > > > >> 3)A really basic EQ. > > > > no ideas > > > > andy > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-6--449820666 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
But there is a flex bus feature and with a midi cable you can add half rack space rane mixers to it. 

Ao



On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:26 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

main problem I see there is that it appears to be 8 channels, thats 8 too few...


On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
Best rack mount looping mixer ever, but 3u

Http://Www.rane.com/pdf/old/cm86man.pdf

Look at the manual see if you agree.

Andy o



On Mar 12, 2011, at 7:29 AM, "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> mark francombe wrote:
>> Currently a Behringer  Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input, 1 aux, mute buttons, pan.
>
>> Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available)
>> 1) 1U 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..)
>> 3) 1 AUX SEND
>
> Alesis Multimix Line 8
> (it's not hissy)
> ...and it's mod-able,
> the circuit schematic is available.
>
>
>> 1)Some other way to send signal to my loopers. Currently I'm wasting the send on that.
>> I could do with either an EXTRA send but i dont really like that, because I dont NEED to set a level everytime I want to loop... I want to do that on the looper, I just want to route the signal, via a switch.
>
> I could look at the Alesis schematic and see if that's possible.
> ...but it would need holes drilling in some tough metal,
> and (i expect) some additional resistors.
>
>> The Behringer has a MUTE switch, and Ive often thought about if I could take a signal from THAT bus to the loopers, so instead of muting it routed.
>
> while on some mixers the Mute goes to a Bus, that's not the
> case here.
> Likely those switches are just single pole single throw
> (just on/off)...it might be possible to re-purpose them
> as sends, but I think you'd need some additional circuitry.
>
> Without a schematic, modding isn't at all easy.
>
> My pre-schematic attempt to mod the Alesis was a disaster.
>
>> 2)Some kind of insert: just on the main outs would be ok (I neens to put my WHOLE rig thru one stereo effect. (I can achieve this just by putting the mixer before this effect so its not a biggie)
>
> another possible Alesis mod would do this (but would use
> up the circuit you wanted for the aux send)
>
>> 3)A really basic EQ.
>
> no ideas
>
> andy
>




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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--Apple-Mail-6--449820666-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 05:41:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B34183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:41:33 -0500 Thread-Index: AcvhQVUFpO0tmbveTgCPemh+1ZHkJg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2011 05:41:42.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[553FF5D0:01CBE141] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 05:41:46 +0000 (UTC) So why hasnt someone just taken a midi controlled patch bay, then make a 1u o= r 2u interface unit with microswitches and one of those helium boards/cards f= or midi control and man you could have the ultimate looping mixer. Easy as p= i=20 Andy o On Mar 12, 2011, at 6:41 PM, "mark francombe" wrote= : > bugger it.. drawing wrapped... trying this... >=20 > GUITAR _____ stomp boxes ____ TC Fireworx_____Vortex_____ MIXER 1/2 > | > |____ Hex pickup splitter______GIT SYNTH_________MIXER 3= /4 > | >=20 > |____Pitchshifter______MIXER 5/6 >=20 >=20 > AUX SEND _________Kaoscilator Pro ____________MIXER 9/10 > | > ______REPEATER L/R ____________ MIXER 11/12 > | > |______EDP1_______Roland 303 FX ______MIXER 13//14 > | > |______EDP2_______AIR FX____________MIXER 15/16 >=20 >=20 >=20 > MIXER L/R out ____Kaos pad___FOH >=20 >=20 >=20 >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 10:33:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDBE5183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592622000/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCAP85fE1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSXNC4ViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,310,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592622000" Message-ID: <4D7C9D7F.6020509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:33:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > So why hasnt someone just taken a midi controlled patch bay, > then make a 1u or 2u interface unit with microswitches and >one of those helium boards/cards for midi control and man > you could have the ultimate looping mixer. Easy as pi reason 1) the cost anything over $314.15 is a problem From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 10:36:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B97F183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6ZaM5tf2oBBVTrnpEUWOLJh0N5LGZ9gIqoh63weewa4=; b=C9WBkor72DWNaRDHauWr2q1vuNmuY03vy97WFHVw6ntM1epQUnCncjrzo2vkDCHUcQ lZkqa8a9Qoz51tb+r2prgO7lAKjgikUZm3lsbDZEK36UteBBshtccisavUom7Xup9L6F fhjheHWRz9W2UrMu5mSvLpG/2tk9zcY038COA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xWcN+itveAGVEYPyEpZSIwaUkXZ1yqHzKL+6SxCkB17ldpVex1ibo4pvDuhmxl+hch pWzGfEw3cE4TjCeVTKL52EismugIpuS2CgLTsBHtKUMGpaGhF5U8rFEWavxRtpFGfaXL myFYFW469QifNRdw8BN68zT/ygb1BP2/yeF5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:36:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Adrain Belew uses Mobius looper wow!! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Wow Jeff you have certainly done something right my friend congrats i was not aware of this!! http://www.synth.me/node/843 Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 11:01:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3ABF6183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RBzueSjFW4aJQTn/HGmjunsbI7inaMNsaoctyo+kafY=; b=QlatElTrP6ZHLAiWAqEGMjpTg6BmJLrJlGpK4R/Ve4iDuXyDmBgcIYKYVxVn9pdLN+ Z+xUmm+51Dh3RTSir1sn08ZlDNgbY+r1LP5VhKYEiQNi6zj1QNme0wRagVdc2JMSFDgO g/aS0gE70qqnbrRVngNbl7HxGkl8rOwC/udI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k8kmSaNdPDRYZzUKSd6sbmVU2TumOKwYdV3ZJ63EhPBXkYrFD1EuByS4BIiXce38Vo mTe1qrFJBjQk4C+WGrjTaSv4Merpol0cIDXHcRqUhERhifAVQ+eU6GjKNe8nUnP7H9TS Eav5TJyAavXxCCf8bSVGl2tnJF3CEZwm8T9bE= Message-ID: <4D7CA3ED.1080309@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:01:01 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Adrain Belew uses Mobius looper wow!! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > Wow Jeff you have certainly done something right my friend congrats i > was not aware of this!! > Belew is a smart kid, plus he doesn't have as many prejudices as his master Fripp ("it's modeled after the EDP, so the sound quality will suck the same"), so it was only a matter of time until that happened... -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 11:09:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3F94183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592585913/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCACNDfE1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSXNEoViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,310,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592585913" Message-ID: <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:09:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Can you come up with a rig that does more things....... I'm waiting for the Vox Dynamic Looper to be available before I answer that. So far all we heard from that was incompetent demos, but it's 2 loops with resampling to different loop length feature could be a winner. Rainer Straschill wrote: > T-Resonator as powerful filter thing). is that device also capable of stuff other than the screaming distortion of the available demos? I suspect it is (with 'micro-turning' of the controls), but that depends on how *moog-like" the filter really is. e.g. Can the filter oscillation achieve a sustained "silvery" sine wave? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 11:14:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C40D2183464; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HMzLv9HVntUQdAD0pW0/55hUCznc2wuR8qdYCn/xvUo=; b=ICTEhdBOs3ZmY9FDIhctgG27dPLgTECoxNbPgOj9AzrMKdwFDTJoMSTpA9iNRUUOEH 3iL6TsuFepMP7+68id49q77k+5RPndfevz/2CuF7jzzcaw42a5bzEB4RFEO3frMpCLLv vxkXgXZ78r4rYTChJmUC6QWm6I/R6AlX8w6TU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QJW49ltqz7roWhMZ9YnyMdaBe09G3yPG/KEIWT+KjA48GMXR6mhNSqQXrer9hwujgq ZbbGmfAW4j1ZiKXzfLTGCaABbuhgFEF1NDlTRzoYiMKjLRS3fEzZpAFW4dSXnA1vIqkY uz5hn+sO8vlpv2V1KJRsQ5m4drfBRV7jlrVRM= Message-ID: <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:14:35 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5QNUmD.A.OTH.ccKfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:14:36 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > is that device also capable of stuff other than > the screaming distortion of the available demos? > e.g. Can the filter oscillation achieve a sustained > "silvery" sine wave? Sorry, I don't know the definition of "silvery sine wave" - there's not so many properties a sine wave can have except for frequency, amplitude and phase offset (and if one of them isn't constant, it's more than one sine wave...;). But if you can describe what you're looking for, I can see if it can do it. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 11:29:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EB7C183463; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592594130/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCANNHfE1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSXMfYViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,310,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592594130" Message-ID: <4D7CAAAE.9000104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:29:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <20110312135119.B835B183466@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:29:37 +0000 (UTC) hi Bill, I haven't ever used a Rane mixer, so I really can't answer that. The price differential is massive enough (3x at least in uk), ............though that doesn't always mean much, as it should be possible to make a really clean line mixer without going overboard on expensive components. The feature differential was also an issue for me, the Alesis wins easily, though I did have to mod it to make the mic input worthwhile. I haven't properly AB'ed the Alesis yet, it seems "ok" and the truth might end up being expensive. Certainly no hiss. The built in psu makes for another route for hum to get into your rig. (which an unearthed wall wart isn't if it's isolated and smoothed correctly). I've bought some humfrees to sort out problems with that, but it's only been a problem at gigs ( noticeable between pieces, to me anyway). At home it's only audible when worrying about it. andy William Walker wrote: >> Andy said; > >> , Alesis Multimix Line 8 >> (it's not hissy) >> ...and it's mod-able, >> the circuit schematic is available. > > Clean enough to rival a rane SM-82? if so I would switch as my SM-82 was > built during a period of time when they used a large wall wart power > supply the size of a line 6 power supply that connected to the unit via > a cat cable no less. i like that the multi mix has a built in power > supply and is light in weight though my rane may be of more robust build > quality and is made in the US. > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 11:39:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73A6418345A; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592647090/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgQCAAhJfE1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSXMdYViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,310,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592647090" Message-ID: <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:39:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:39:36 +0000 (UTC) hi Rainer, ok, silvery means pure. Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> is that device also capable of stuff other than >> the screaming distortion of the available demos? >> e.g. Can the filter oscillation achieve a sustained >> "silvery" sine wave? > Sorry, I don't know the definition of "silvery sine wave" - there's not > so many properties a sine wave can have except for frequency, amplitude > and phase offset (and if one of them isn't constant, it's more than one > sine wave...;). > But if you can describe what you're looking for, I can see if it can do it. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 12:29:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A9F183453; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:29:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4lyzOQ/2didJPB8fhvfqV0Bn8T9/x/HH+koX7HPv8VM=; b=AUqGKJf+lIOnuSvP/7i1MUVimuO/rT8d4yBuMHHcZwzZz+U4a0O2zoABd/12JQky0y 0ij5yx4c2DPEUyqS/0xN69eYz0V9jOho+rYzVF9cIXSx7fa34IEubVgX4RA6cn8lG/mK XKmYqqa/2jmbHLHaRjBIUz1dqVfDMhrtFTFwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gq7QTsUJlngbCkMxWPXGzSLXOeffMk7IdcqdeOZY1cmuv2DY/dbXmG/qGgA+BWfrwW b2eaY4khC0DOVMwMxhQUxU5xquLKmKNqG1jrhFxzlt/EpTY/fYX0bIfl9yyzaMB7NQpc FDzP9HkG1SrjmBxJVrq3hT+0l5b2D9G+abDPY= Message-ID: <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:29:06 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6AXFd.A.Vo.UiLfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:29:08 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > hi Rainer, > ok, > silvery means pure. Ok, as with "pure silver", you usually state the amount of silver content - and with that. (Quick measurement - T-Resonator w/ shortet ins thru DI (for pads) into RME Multiface II, analysis w/ WaveLabs FFT meter). For negative feedback: other partials are at or below -57dB relative to the fundamental. it's relatively easy to find that most silvery point of feedback positive feedback: other partials are at or below -40dB relative to the fundamental. This is just at the start of oscillation. Increase feedback, and you get more distortion. So, the quick answer: It's roughly more than 99% pure silver. -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 14:02:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC145183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7C9D7F.6020509@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D7C9D7F.6020509@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:02:24 -0400 thread-topic: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! thread-index: Acvhh0t7eTKQu1OWQLCms2TFJV1p4w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2011 14:02:31.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BC1AE90:01CBE187] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:02:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 13, 2011, at 6:33 AM, "andy butler" wrote: > reason 1) > the cost Dern, I thought this was art!!! Ao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 14:44:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 643AC183460; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592713836/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhYCAJd0fE1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmSXMaoViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,311,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="592713836" Message-ID: <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:44:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jomox T-Resonator was In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:44:26 +0000 (UTC) hi Rainer, thanks for that, so would the T-Resonator be useful in contexts other than a noise setup? For instance, Would it do a more chaotic equivalent of a dub delay? Would you use it in an ambient set? For tonal music? andy Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> hi Rainer, >> ok, >> silvery means pure. > It's roughly more than 99% pure silver. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 14:54:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4F3183460; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300028050; bh=YNsyK4V6H0wXnxBqeQSRFMBKNI4BB53QBqxev0NPhuI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G41Bk1sJDo12XxMDo3/wfgzqwOPBln0LbJHGqGEIeQ1ZuJhJAJE2l5Uw4Nccopui91OM7cX2z7fAyL9bl77T7rr2zuXVyMkzUcZquW3VMlVj4ucTgwE/Y35j6VJmylM1Ni5I0emkO5u0t3Rnem2vomW13WC0WJKrY7uYyNA7/9o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RPOyTw66RdAuCdO9K6EgtRExxFXna9dDPtojqcEr7Yp+ls3hhquxTFOSMUy66C/xicwmHjNyItXFr8VWagI+s0xS8YWpE4Glip9MeITR9UgrgUB785GsmFe8IqI+7Q7oS3l/36wrS8QfFstDJx96dcVIySmsQ+dYOU/Z0Ufz4Ug=; Message-ID: <446819.82787.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: C9.zGYgVM1nYkawUnlLc0SB_O9rB6q2f1mlafY3m5alYbq. _.Jwyc7CEYKOCaCZBAuTA41zMaE.ffTIRNJEE0ZTfnUlC45l7RjvUPIyoJWG qgXgv7Rvk6mbGLSAtvED7FcFjOLUCt3W79mikh5bdGcwoAgi_pmHKc0WWiZv H1abVsjuLvTXbGa0rNLA.rzySt8_uHnDYqKLabOK7mr19zKvPpIkh4Cuo855 UibDuLgzwMkjbwYeDLQn3FG2N05TWAa6cZ9_RV.JtBKXGlesN4fcpxaswqGM I7dJdFqGyXmMgmGeq81DW2_MhC2ThLKBXBst6A6ufyvrFORv8rW5Agy.4oTw MDpnxNyTalo0kBpuSk3X0_7oNdphgCEDYGhe0Rlo- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:54:10 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Jomox T-Resonator was In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1102542738-1300028050=:82787" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:54:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-1102542738-1300028050=:82787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have one and I found it works well to make rhythmic patters from sustained sounds. I sans a long note and generate something that sounds like a brazilian quicka from that witht he T resonnator. Antony ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 3:44:38 PM Subject: Re: Jomox T-Resonator was In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal hi Rainer, thanks for that, so would the T-Resonator be useful in contexts other than a noise setup? For instance, Would it do a more chaotic equivalent of a dub delay? Would you use it in an ambient set? For tonal music? andy Rainer Straschill wrote: > andy butler schrieb: >> hi Rainer, >> ok, >> silvery means pure. > It's roughly more than 99% pure silver. > --0-1102542738-1300028050=:82787 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have one and I found it works well to make rhythmic patters from sustained sounds. I sans a long note and generate something that sounds like a brazilian quicka from that witht he T resonnator.

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 3:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: Jomox T-Resonator was In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal

hi Rainer,
thanks for that,

so would the T-Resonator be useful in
contexts other than a noise setup?

For instance, Would it do a more chaotic equivalent of a dub delay?

Would you use it in an ambient set?

For tonal music?



andy

Rainer Straschill wrote:
> andy butler schrieb:
>> hi Rainer,
>> ok,
>> silvery means pure.

> It's roughly more than 99% pure silver.
>


--0-1102542738-1300028050=:82787-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 15:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A1F3183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xF0j/Jk6wfytBov0IMDrP9rMGpGarqoRKpVzgrkTIAk=; b=jsDPKCJXDhrcfbODgKMolCOxqOFCJZ39GpSvSfmU2td1yV4JBTMym00NA9N2xAZ5BK vCqK/bzJYjI+OC0P7ubepx96EGBU+TG2TlYUutwRla2e26/JXKTCa3//PfO6MFbMNxGy XNJry7ZGMJeuvvNCN0/F8min1BKtLubbHM5VE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hLnsfIWkmu2swO3yFkJtaSCAug9P1wo6P8pcyAV+Z17yf8Nvay4Sb0m9VEefoeC3pj +rPBYSUZH8Qx75DOZ+L0gr6oYFh26CWK9rZAWEGv8UgvBu1XiIFDYEgH/IhelMiOHC6m lMPXU5RqBTXDlZ1yWrl9o3E0CmbaScIe7kRFE= Message-ID: <4D7CE5D9.1050705@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:42:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jomox T-Resonator was In praise of the M-9 was DL4 expression pedal References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:42:18 +0000 (UTC) andy butler schrieb: > hi Rainer, > thanks for that, > > so would the T-Resonator be useful in > contexts other than a noise setup? Depends on what you're looking for. The T-Resonator is mainly a dual-mono lowpass filter with a delay effect thrown in and lots of feedback options. However, for normal filter use (say, just put a beefy filter on a submix or instrument), I'd rather use other things, like a Filter Factory. The thing it's best at is have the filters singing, modulated by an LFO or envelope follower (for that, you don't even need that input signal to be anything useful). The setup I use it in is channel1->external distortion box->channel 2; with the cross-feedback becoming feedback/forward options. Ambient setup: yes tonal music: most probably now, because other things do what I want from a filter in tonal music better. Two examples: http://soundcloud.com/moinlabs/the-big-calm-live-at-moinsound-studio-sessions-excerpt (mainly the cicade chirping) http://soundcloud.com/tom-slatter/bigcalm (here, my part is about 40min. into the track. The T-Resonator is sent through various other things here, including an Eclipse, so not a good way to judge the possibility to use it for normal stuff. But it's "tonal") -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 16:46:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2CB183453; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CE5D9.1050705@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: bitrman Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:46:33 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D7CE5D9.1050705@googlemail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33356-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDAFB5583B3628-21EC-2B53E@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:42 +0000 (UTC) remember how the MOD FX pedals could be combined by inserting one into=20 the other thru the side thingies? i did this with my 2 bitrmen pedals and this creates some very nice=20 sounds, i have only scratched the surface of this setup but i am very pleased by the results.....it is very=20 interesting how the first bman effects the second, totally unheard of sounds are produced.....it has taken me several=20 years to do this but well worth the wait.....also on another note, i think someone wrote that the M9=20 can take 2 xpression pedals, is this true? =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 19:11:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEBCF183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DplC0njair891jkXi+mreKCBBSiLV0t7t0AbKQrwmhI=; b=p1xLgrg0JVDvu1tJvxRFqI0zQcgp4IGOfBhKmdf7uaxhNQnts3tydN/1X3EbXJBgdz 9HaBI/cYd6c5FQm3jx54FF2IL1WtWlQC/hxH4aIMvrxf8DbMOu0ImOA8BhM+Vh/XTDqS W/wkWmBYaFq8v0Atl3Q6tt44AHvi8jQlesd9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ocmsn4beJcvyd9Wp0KT2q/EkdFJQoEb8EtvA12YEs5rMP/qDscMX3iRK32lsUoYih8 nlgISNSN8KKcriRer7+GkaLdr3v8ORGBWW/6foeTOm7wYeKN8tLHnPYD8NbgvaHt5ArB WxsaC/aDSsGRicVidxo0Kfi/wIznLp3DELszE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:11:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Gig Spam:Live streaming shows on now! From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca056740761049e61f66c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:11:32 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307ca056740761049e61f66c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This just started with Matt Stevens looping in fine form, 3 hours of music live now. http://cafenoodle.ning.com/ Matt Stevens 7pm Tom Slatter 8pm Pseudo Ambient (Gaetano Fontanazza) 9pm j --20cf307ca056740761049e61f66c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 This just started with Matt Stevens looping in fine form, 3 hours of music live now.
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--20cf307ca056740761049e61f66c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 19:19:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14758183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_00b1b005-d2fc-4c91-8f4b-aeddbd615eb3_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:19:25 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2011 19:19:25.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[91137C40:01CBE1B3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:19:26 +0000 (UTC) --_00b1b005-d2fc-4c91-8f4b-aeddbd615eb3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Again having FUN with the Elektron Octatrack=2C an amazing little instrumen= t! So again no real amp=2C just a V-stack Tweedy and my Soloway Swan with l= ollar minihums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a lot... not sure wha= t to call the "music" style... perhaps crazy... This machine as a lot of li= mitations as a looper=2C in this OS=2C but it does things normal looper don= 't=2C eight separate channels=2C sequencer=2C great effects (that can be tr= iggered by sequencer)=2C 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control=2C pitch= =2C AMP that=2C together with Chorus=2C makes a guitar loop sound like a B3= on acid... IT'S FUN!!!=20 http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs As for the octa.. one through machine=2C one flex with a trig record the re= st are flex tracks sampled live... some scene mapping (the crazy pitch shif= t in the begning for example)=2C trigless trigs. ALL effects are the octa N= OTHING added in the mix Feedback and questions are welcome Enjoy ? Anders = --_00b1b005-d2fc-4c91-8f4b-aeddbd615eb3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Again having FUN with the Elektron Octatrack=2C an amazi= ng little instrument! So again no real amp=2C just a V-stack Tweedy and my = Soloway Swan with lollar minihums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a = lot... not sure what to call the "music" style... perhaps crazy... =3B<= /span>
This machine as a lot of lim= itations as a looper=2C in this OS=2C but it does things normal looper don'= t=2C eight separate channels=2C =3Bsequencer=2C great effects (that can= be triggered by sequencer)=2C 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control=2C= pitch=2C AMP that=2C together with Chorus=2C makes a guitar loop sound lik= e a B3 on acid... IT'S FUN!!! =3B
= http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs
As for the octa.. one through machin= e=2C one flex with a trig record the rest are flex tracks sampled live... s= ome scene mapping (the crazy pitch shift in the begning for example)=2C tri= gless trigs. ALL effects are the octa NOTHING added in the mix

Feedback and questions are wel= come

Enjoy ? Anders
= --_00b1b005-d2fc-4c91-8f4b-aeddbd615eb3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 19:26:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7911183463; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 857593.64282.bm@omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=6aET7HOb86kv3CkSqY+EJGss9lzQ8apl3CNzDtp36h+DOSlrRFqtWwZV7HArd7m7rPA5XSa+smzW2tdQKQngo8Cqc4mfso3HtNmcECPCkFM4/TBxUlFcymQ8GQl17MaFsNqBmERGCHN41GS6P4Q7nQEMPOfVIP0iqLpTcAOlN1I= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300039047; bh=o7sobJhR1g4Nd8CriuK56Jpb7Y3e690kFdc8PdOA5Ic=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=3jhZdxDPhV5xDpQzZj9wzffTV4JFq8Ozzr1KsGA7QsHn9qfGUxeiyllxL8G9hacaP/zVEMtXjdts+IbouUfc9JSCmkrCZy7HyStvmHJ2TMkcp0gnhuIV0OvjqIWwMHXqYllUqTCB5CZZuu52i+LiOSnysrnT0iaTH/W2fGLNSU4= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Bwmyrr0VM1n72ogPOAIuTgGd..EB7QWQ6Abfwlbi8bbSC9I OROfuUGsnVtMsmSXtPHQ3IC56mDt.4ryYFh38yp27Mg2NyQvVp_qe8UkNzLi Ki92N06oGVOUL.1Ljtwcp3BCrNjab5M9wSVjJycZIdSzDsJwBP1TyepllK4K vcqFLEMv3XIs7YB4I1zGVInBvMeLwgSEcP6Qp3MMEk.Qu34qrZPqK3O2Hxyp EZIlsC3AB.bAPdCbj3JFiprHr3am_8Wu1yWGY4fl36.kaJt6DTqWSmIx_iEG mVhvlwcecdXYCI2O4O8BCBEmaVthKjIZ8fPytUvk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Online Gig Spam From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:57:26 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <545288CB-464D-4396-97E7-762A50B7B626@btinternet.com> References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Guys Doing a streaming loop gig at http://www.cafenoodle.ning.com in an hour. Would be great to see you there. Thanks Matt Stevens :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 20:18:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3099B183453; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D7D26A4.4070904@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:18:44 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: SentientFX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:18:48 +0000 (UTC) If anyone is willing and interested, we can help our fellow loop list member, Gareth to get his new Guitar controlled Synthesizer company, Sentient FX off the ground by going to his webpage at FaceBook and adding a 'like' to it. It's here at http://www.facebook.com/pages/SentientFX/128053160599640?ref=ts I just did! It looks like it's going to be very hip. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 21:16:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F0A0183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QOSjsOlq+a9wXQvmSn5mpiqIgdks58gDDQrKhse/9fk=; b=F2t1KNEnvxEv1ANo8e4P3ZwcKaPhyM3wn5KtuxtCCsqnjKNCmf9jUOIT+zFkUlEmUt MLZB/Le7bpTCJ51QSGiuVrt9MLm9Gx+GDgudNBEnueNiUffyHMqQUm0JFunii7kAp9k3 GKt8ALeovPIBu1BWAJzAOZMZyI3EZSFgX3t5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fe3XJEahajmJpS7E4f9h2fju2ZmEI8H3VTr3PLw/Z+LHurzj3CUN2a1+CzMnj/8nAP aM+DSZtd2quf9POtmGJ00ipkpFru8GdRVarqX2QeN/9OHwFtgqE+DZLzpO96YXvzrC4d sr8BroKE6KwIWsbbsKEf5TuxFavnp/+Ynn0Bc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:16:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yYyPsVJmZBgfoFwBWXCuEc5VQ4w Message-ID: Subject: GigSpam: ALTAAR tonight Silent Barn Brooklyn To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:16:56 +0000 (UTC) If any of you live in Brooklyn? well, can I come and stay...? No.. I mean... My very good Norsk friend Sten Ove, is playing tonight at Silent Barn. All I can say , is that his band ALTAAR are far from silent... Its called SY=D8Y in Norwegian.. look it up! I can promise guitars played very loud, and Sten Oves prefered playing position is on his knees, head buried deep in effect pedals... its Death Jazz... the new thing here in Norway. As for if its got anything to do with looping, well no... but he is the booker for Bl=E5 in Oslo, best Experimental gig here, so if you want a gig, its him you must be nice to! He is alot of fun, I once saw him play a gig dressed as a tree. Heres my interview with him in Furthernoise webzine http://www.furthernoise.org/index.php?url=3Dpage.php&ID=3D161&iss=3D61 --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 21:38:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEA7183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ASA6Z3b129gDTUpH8BGl5ZcEFQZO/L/hJK04MPqxiyc=; b=sNoIlochXI8TouUP4V5J43vUELcH30LJhpxMjcpSLO4IrX976wiCFTKY/SXTzy/9UQ GESXnOIU3J2yyckURcSaMAP9rw3QaptUgXumOFPolLBodOp47oG9vLosRlixS8qvVKTV 2VB1sXnLAGbKrsevXbuTNRR2heuZ4ZBi056g4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a0dDnaXARpaTYYStgf7xqLJj9wystyfV3LNdm7rxDE8vcBKADnlGwop17+niMJ161M G7Wik9FZFob5eGsZnC2jemGBn2P/AJFPlpDui7oxqJA94+G7VYHKPoi0e73OOh5zM6Ob p8YGeNYxlmsLo8QydDCCwLNytwqCwGz6RZ3IY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:38:53 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GigSpam: ALTAAR tonight Silent Barn Brooklyn From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Marc that sounds amazing. I unfortunately can't make it this eve but I have heard of this place and im curious. Sounds like Sten is long way from home but bringing some cool stuff to Bklyn. You're coming over sometime this spring, no? Jim On 3/13/11, mark francombe wrote: > If any of you live in Brooklyn? well, can I come and stay...? No.. I > mean... My very good Norsk friend Sten Ove, is playing tonight at > Silent Barn. All I can say , is that his band ALTAAR are far from > silent... Its called SY=D8Y in Norwegian.. look it up! > > I can promise guitars played very loud, and Sten Oves prefered playing > position is on his knees, head buried deep in effect pedals... its > Death Jazz... the new thing here in Norway. > > As for if its got anything to do with looping, well no... but he is > the booker for Bl=E5 in Oslo, best Experimental gig here, so if you want > a gig, its him you must be nice to! > > He is alot of fun, I once saw him play a gig dressed as a tree. > Heres my interview with him in Furthernoise webzine > http://www.furthernoise.org/index.php?url=3Dpage.php&ID=3D161&iss=3D61 > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 21:55:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59241183462; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 619 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:55:19 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Z8xEIJuMQLC4j6lHsTuPhjBv/kl+bLFbUmCvSHmSe0yKgI0LgQWwnVNYNxjXYgiU; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <1F2B3E35-C113-42E2-930B-CB2842BFEEEB@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D7D26A4.4070904@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SentientFX Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 14:44:59 -0700 References: <4D7D26A4.4070904@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79e2a4ed7d65fa4617cfd2e64112979c30350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.142.17.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Cool indeed! I hope they're planning to include AUs=85 dpc On Mar 13, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > If anyone is willing and interested, we can help our > fellow loop list member, Gareth to get his new > Guitar controlled Synthesizer company, Sentient FX off the ground by > going to his webpage at FaceBook and adding a 'like' to it. > > It's here at > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/SentientFX/128053160599640?ref=3Dts > > I just did! > > It looks like it's going to be very hip. > > rick walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 13 23:53:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1843B183460; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=SseLZkqlcoZUcAqWwrx29bnNXGxmnWwdN6lIozv7Dis=; b=X3sUnmQ9v/lzW+XSb5ckNBtoZbQm4NUblG1jF7tCQmCSGoXFkQ05N2XNyrSoYvkXri FhvXQAGT263b7KHGEgCVm5WoG5mb6rGWQnhT1eJOYcp435nUSWph/xrJQ5a9fSPq2i6I Eg5hCraSjSP0fJAA654YoKLelu9UgzbUJXPPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=iFJSv1e4Cyjm3hIrTfuqZ81UQYKEpg1ksQCfM+Ya5DnmPeWazqYbQoQ2OVl2iiWDDC FFB4h3bmY86uUHgZwrrvXDgtG4e2zOrVi3H0T2Sn59DC1wIIUdMdmyX3PmP3SIvpBpsr Y1tnZFGpdFUBqUhp0LgvC6SwgdGkq3V9dz3Ac= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:53:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? thanx! Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 00:11:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413DA183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EiTwgpcAsnQ2F7WKwbx6gcPwfn8CmORwwiCWm8ArYdYGMzIccgSXk51lVchExxRb; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <4774519.1300061476976.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:11:16 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48eef0ae2d23db7c7f3a185d49fca7713130febb85a5f48815350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:11:17 +0000 (UTC) if i were a plug-in user-this item would be in my arsenal: http://www.uaudio.com/store/chorus-delays/ep-34.html -----Original Message----- >From: Louie Angulo >Sent: Mar 13, 2011 4:53 PM >To: Loopers Delight >Subject: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable > >Hi folks, >im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac >that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? >thanx! >Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 01:15:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C715F183459; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O7IgddhIdDf829oLlZwStXSGeNvQeBhzq0BfVROFUas=; b=x0HXJ4hKVCDjWbkrKodHCQ1R8+WivUA8tDGz1qN00jO9J5gxAvC6TYCxy68glVgnWh QI7seilUQLf7yR8hcOV8WQ+eQVP+dANzzL3BNj/CIx2wgdxq3VffLU5qq2TRISfGbEyl /fLWehyZyQcNuvTH9/Tm/DbPD/tlh0dXGxlSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BUMOdRY9MfI4xdUctjeYUzNALIoFjdvASw3dNdMnf7LSpu5Ylycm0y/P001+7yXY2d eKnth3rFrPhgkNfZB50jreWon86szEaW9aiNqbOHvruuH4SgVtthQMV3EJ5fvLYq6d+2 zi3XNi2ko9M65b69qKSrWx8RWWJ8wGQjQZnnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:15:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:15:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? Ableton's ping-pong delay is quite nice, but it doesn't have a very good "regeneration" I guess. Assuming you mean sound degeneration by noise and flutter when you're saying "regeneration"? The one Stan recommends looks good but I have not played with it. But I can recommend EchoBoy from SoundToys and Timeless2 from FabFilter. Timeless has better wobble and flutter simulation while EchoBoys can also sound like a cool reverb besides the usual tape loop delay simulation. Ohm Force's OhmBoyz is another good tape delay sim plugin. Oh, almost forgot to mention Expert Sleeper's Augustus Loop! That's a really good tape sim plugin. I especially like its "inertia", the tape noise created as you speed up or slow down a tape loop. That lovely noise can be totally controlled over external MIDI if you want. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 03:25:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD13F183453; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ju0CahcknrYSDisyrrD0iMTLMM/NuJpJTSAMDEbeuL4=; b=UV7aJp8+1zdnegJ5giQ9K8YuXIJUn8PB+C9THxKNWIfZ1j6qP6ocRstsA6RQfps6b5 j+W2KXBrYZbDgFWOMbfyLLFYPDCmdp2GlceqM1a4RvMdSrH2a0NxpEejbSaAkCQcI6cN GeXABIy8MargzfCGXQqYAuCdzGNYJtH86E5Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SdJK+CyEDVyqvtWZKJsd1KdOgu1AKjmvU73bJ49/ByJBDrrCw8RCVW6iD4c204ob5O HhA/bUiRScsZSZkTMhWIn0xWru5iO8UHrogL/qJ0375OuftJLykwvd26Un/pm/gyxDNe I3dOx2cWxlYXdeu0AmmRJaXFcDYtsRhHa4mqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:25:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: John McLaughlin on Al Jazeera From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:25:17 +0000 (UTC) I've just recently discovered Al Jazeera, and I'm bowled over by the quality of the news coverage. I stumbled on this interview with John McLaughlin by Riz Khan. McLaughlin comes across as such a nice guy! It's surprising to me that the interviewer seems to care less about Miles Davis or Tony Williams. The interview really focuses on McLaughlin's early years and the influence of France and India, though Miles comes up quite a bit at the end. I enjoyed it quite a bit. http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/oneonone/2010/12/201012221565167269.html -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 03:44:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 709D8183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:33:26 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T, Kit Demos, Lou Cohen, Forbes Graham, Walter Wright - March 20, Outpost 186 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 03:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Visual Music LIVE continues at Outpost 186 on Sunday March 20 at 8 PM. -- I'll be doing video improvisations with Kit Demos -- bass Lou Cohen -- Laptop Forbes Graham -- trumpet Walter Wright -- Electronics. The musicians will play in al 6 duet combinations, followed by a quartet. Dr. T -- Video Projections My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources a video mixer and effects processors. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 07:56:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCA41183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300089410; bh=zB1c3fv0h7SXUT/37Q9ye1cp3GnuM9QsWfGNU7AewdA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D1z0NYJTU6WFpyMVqsXd/e59mnEZNXXufyTdwXPYSarkzi9ct552PSXmH0v46o/QofEGDpxfhZJ4Sp3lVl29eq6MpZydPzVF62LKf0H/+slosxnVe6O/xwvX4GYD0Q4koknp80IjeCiIpgOv000hTTIYR911JHi4LykAWQ4HXZg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LN0wrfqf0yhuCGURz0XCuG3bhgkGXTBztU1nnLoTjogLrT+aRQXMFtpzIxB5fVmwUF51pwe1Szqtf3QjbcFuqxuPXCwAF605Oc1yrdfyyW866xJSZzlx6z3j5g2RoIAt9Epb/fmiy6RKtut5r1Atv6s2bprDoDEpK/478CBUeZw=; Message-ID: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TVS1HZsVM1lcKtf54TXmIQ6WWoUk2kZ9pewo5vhbLMK1lcf ys3Qa1cYGraA3NpyLbq.58a3NXSedHUOFRtKA45FqnY17VidgQYd6nSp9c.V jAWgcTJb.hD1SXJXKB66axttM9UORTH33aZawObvAZdZPaNnLvwwuek7br9n RtCyqo3s5ERVpUT1Etw5E0mTamXN1crqcNKDbzWKEJtQ6TkJxphAFSZT9Ll_ 70oAR9EyDTsrdyznnaaBt3RHup4LxXGFzwqzaJyfKoNM6LR48xhWvoeQ4RVl HxwdT5CtbzFyeZp1JTtCzUAD38405aiAVW3EyzwQSdbqyjvawlWXgZPnaV_b xw3Ut3oHOf_WPTptPTxgp2mYWEoNDAFPuOykbG38- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2007766490-1300089410=:39849" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-2007766490-1300089410=:39849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello Anders, sounds like you are enjoying the octotrack. most curious to hear what you are doing with it as you discover the possibilities. How do you set up the live looping for now? Antony ________________________________ From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 8:19:25 PM Subject: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Again having FUN with the Elektron Octatrack, an amazing little instrument! So again no real amp, just a V-stack Tweedy and my Soloway Swan with lollar minihums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a lot... not sure what to call the "music" style... perhaps crazy... This machine as a lot of limitations as a looper, in this OS, but it does things normal looper don't, eight separate channels, sequencer, great effects (that can be triggered by sequencer), 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control, pitch, AMP that, together with Chorus, makes a guitar loop sound like a B3 on acid... IT'S FUN!!! http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs As for the octa.. one through machine, one flex with a trig record the rest are flex tracks sampled live... some scene mapping (the crazy pitch shift in the begning for example), trigless trigs. ALL effects are the octa NOTHING added in the mix Feedback and questions are welcome Enjoy ? Anders --0-2007766490-1300089410=:39849 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hello Anders,

sounds like you are enjoying the octotrack. most curious to hear what you are doing with it as you discover the possibilities. How do you set up the live looping for now?

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 8:19:25 PM
Subject: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff...

Again having FUN with the Elektron Octatrack, an amazing little instrument! So again no real amp, just a V-stack Tweedy and my Soloway Swan with lollar minihums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a lot... not sure what to call the "music" style... perhaps crazy... 
This machine as a lot of limitations as a looper, in this OS, but it does things normal looper don't, eight separate channels, sequencer, great effects (that can be triggered by sequencer), 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control, pitch, AMP that, together with Chorus, makes a guitar loop sound like a B3 on acid... IT'S FUN!!! 
http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs

As for the octa.. one through machine, one flex with a trig record the rest are flex tracks sampled live... some scene mapping (the crazy pitch shift in the begning for example), trigless trigs. ALL effects are the octa NOTHING added in the mix

Feedback and questions are welcome

Enjoy ? Anders

--0-2007766490-1300089410=:39849-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 09:30:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7BF8183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2ms/KIavVniFrlWjGUgKtqpvKNbM3ARo6aMUGqZoI/I=; b=sYkgzyuyKudtkS5QjBnDBJ6kMZ28XRl5CxG+VBkgrfS2Y5WUmwGqQERwmUbMXYv06e iP8doeu9q1zJzki4SrHrm08Fum7uHVd2aU/sBFLsQAA2qx+qIEpt47wSw0OG2yWde+Xk cj0jRU3JbCRkCsJValkQ93RMHRLYRp6FzpfMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=x4TgwJNxUhYhUsVM62gyKSBRrDgK2mpBAfpoPCECOHRBgA24gu/iqPj6xwLLrHAHIg 4hJjNwwELHiux73JbapmpSauxteGzfX/DSni4wfM1V4HFDR03qtg3hVgxPuH2BsCvOr9 TG3sw/j5m1bf7WsZBLg4h0yj2ddMXPsp6Jgp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:26:14 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6acd03ba9df049e6de737 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:30:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6acd03ba9df049e6de737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 and EXS Little Spacey! On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac > > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? > > --000e0cd6acd03ba9df049e6de737 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and EXS Little Spacey!

On Mon, Mar 14, 20= 11 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:
> im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac<= br> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations?
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--000e0cd6acd03ba9df049e6de737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 09:55:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CB78183460; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SX/OcHRdqbNVKrxcXVFvjAUzRQBuAnwRjkwS9AzPIzs=; b=BfZd0QyoApmJ1l77/cLb/RcBVlhrzEzZt7poWNw2QECmWFNrekjzmjQRbD3iVRGu8P SrD1NwskzxEu7o0IPEdoj9KxbuhmforT7vnGhnFiltQMVL9/F3MLfD94ry4/j/YD8Kzr kEoiD1j/jAyGTqqbmGsl9qRfY7jmiV9OoP48s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZX1yUwVTF9BJMix+Yz1cNbSy3w0k/v3UnY+5wq6gV3RLffPGhpW962mcFw2KXcW6b1 F2bWurdlqYmpu/ffI/1B4O8P9pCl4vBs4HI5AmC4ZoJXBG7PLmC8M8l6TahthRmo+jJo ClZwcvClfq/FjHZfBnEBI54/c6h1mNJ4AsLS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:55:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1ifM3.A.eyC.BYefNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Yes,by regeneration i mean the degradation of the analog tape delays,i love the ones from the eventide timefactor i wish they had that on a plugin and all of these can be tapped independent from the global time of Ableton or synced to it as well correct? by the way,has anybody tried the adrenalinn sync v2 demo on mac? ive been having terrible problems with it, just cant seem to make it work! cheers Luis On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > and EXS Little Spacey! > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac >> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:08:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC32183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nqxBStRVgpf3FcWdhsasdjPLZTfl3mu6Oq0xI4b6IBo=; b=EPCcylYHxvJ4iN/t0ixrOslv0nI8ck/ZI67HEfn6DmR3NDWmO6T4KWqDCIB0c8ieOP m41kxmXimXTW2A/0TGpgknOufc4B5XPYM1qxN9zD5R1Fq7xOIF5fjxnn99uhoZEDmq04 keW4J7FunAMLbCe8IYKuemwp+KTCEPFu64BoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Be4FPgvMfPYl8LXfyTu9B6GrAhZvJMmUmlguRKxL3qPaadx3P8vs59FfVT//SU5JCD TKCVKN6sF6lPKFf4mpygmOBnlwxq8CfEWjycS+SJg2UzG9MwTBSbZCqT1oR3eN0CyCpR GulRSJnq9U7B5iMikg/DFoCOtfpZ/vCNRxk/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:08:32 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Yes,by regeneration i mean the degradation of the analog tape delays,i > love the ones from the eventide timefactor i wish they had that on a > plugin If you haven't done it yet, check out the free demo of Augustus Loop. You can set its degeneration pretty much as you want it and you can even "play" it while the audio is streaming. > and all of these can be tapped independent from the global time of > Ableton or synced to it as well correct? Of course, the are plugins! Which means they pick up on the host's tempo through the plugin format sync function, be it VST, VST2, VST3 or AU. Augustus Looper is a bit more advanced, since it can also be used as the sync master that sends out MIDI Clock tempo related to the length of delay loops (it can be used as a looper too). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:34:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2719C183459; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vqTSP178PA+50c1fjlD82my6wGDymSoa1w/3gK7xegU=; b=ZLfaTbpRU5rC7i51jCAEVnn0rdLijb4DtCj33gHwDsByXJeqBXo+hBUIvPEbnGGLgx 8XedweY0z8lG8Szn2WTs6EZGZcPejOdtnbApESNsKnnU8EoGV7GBkabFTRiKlFVZCmoI 28YjGsUbdAC/h7EyH7Fblsyubjo+DR6DkXvW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xwlYCFdTtFuAaSgs0b6xyk70juE1oW3OLB//EV8zOkDH9pOORKUFzdXvfhY7ZONiWh feQRYQJ39RiHUJR4jlHrg4QY7mtCRfFmbVVqgnyvF4xuWR0Fc6SW7dmrsPMtU435QxiL QNetMmoyO3inDXuxVj6XSoQM2HZLz0M5hVYoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:34:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: John McLaughlin on Al Jazeera From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_cZcJD.A.yjD.m8efNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the hint. Just marvelous! ...to quote Johnny ;-) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I've just recently discovered Al Jazeera, and I'm bowled over by the > quality of the news coverage. I stumbled on this interview with John > McLaughlin by Riz Khan. McLaughlin comes across as such a nice guy! > It's surprising to me that the interviewer seems to care less about > Miles Davis or Tony Williams. The interview really focuses on > McLaughlin's early years and the influence of France and India, though > Miles comes up quite a bit at the end. I enjoyed it quite a bit. > http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/oneonone/2010/12/201012221565167269.html > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:41:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EA29183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zq6Yof1+I8KC9oMM1YiV/OWULK25ikIch+EXzUb2W0M=; b=hfj1sXZifGNWRRiwMgFJF++Di7Fp4TOEMNhlamQXGORgpU6k37TbeTaD+LueOMLiXW TjMhbUpoVpzjIpg3oYcZK7FsE4gK6MPG+MpGBfl8fq8Jd3rFPxq1mT9ZJ6M8VpyZU2Uw MTOH+gFa3s12O9VhLXFh6ZK53qI5WXJpkkcNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=P7Ks0w9yJ10gUgB3lidKCEUGLX/VxsGL3LF8B9eMeXHJpJ7KTSzMGD9aPo8EoTwWKM 8A55cSmKDCww0hjd+oM8dwVQq6gBQe5DQ1IKfG02iTeMytXFY57E9HRyc5Q7LvR851Ej LisLKmnQo2c0EpYpBCx8kUMRjWmfOThDJOs20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad8af3fd6b049e6ef38a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:41:25 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ad8af3fd6b049e6ef38a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh and this is nice too. i use this a lot... http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-DUB-II quite tweakable! On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > Yes,by regeneration i mean the degradation of the analog tape delays > --000e0cd6ad8af3fd6b049e6ef38a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh and this is nice too. i use this a lot...

http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_T= AL-DUB-II

quite tweakable!

On = Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2= 011 at 10:55 AM, Louie Angulo
<louie.= angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Yes,by regeneration i mean the degradation of = the analog tape delays
--000e0cd6ad8af3fd6b049e6ef38a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:43:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A46BB183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h7p3ENSzPmGxIYf/sSZMzlqmpHHOAr+ZUhGa1CFjC18=; b=wEs2vH7Jyg+6o54ryWve+j3ni/jQGxKfqn4b+W9H24rnm2X9lfcDcfVmdrSLbrI8DH VyuFBGZ1g8Yqplq3XQP7K717KKYZjDBc/9kpVIbLHIwHEif0ESzd3lLi1nyDTdf2/p2X FT1PrgzBAgbGqDAN9qUMIVjGo1vce3hYQ4PI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fzqfESXKHXjrSdrnhtgViRPPdAsUexYWtEDdxsRuaVojv+ELfjjMa9CzY5Bs/XetVg EObYbOBNE1sDNEnkb14oVZ5cmYeWtFx9DTt4NcvqBySRRla6fLtwLKvFNsAvFzJDqoMP qqvCm0CQZSexbZC3HCRwbIeJqSCaHsXzQAUW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:43:06 +0000 (UTC) all midi controllable as well? On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > and EXS Little Spacey! > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac >> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:53:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AFA7183460; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=guhcPPqDUWH5m6I53XJAJqe/AKaAnSyr64ie5luzIfg=; b=affMHSU7jZUwPO+cJWe2tMFeZ0yIfD75Bj2j9vO1/8qT+PYfwF/924rjyvyMMRgfDV s6CQJp3+FouvvDBa/h+kK9CzRKSJ2YEkzABZ509WMAXCIzSIX6pNeaGb7njPRcjlcWsg uu6hEGZJbMh4pTNytttx0PE6LTRi/de8cYwhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=KdU10MrcAsJo+kI7ZF72LaOp2JgyUfTSY6msNVqTAxaKTMgdqE6znylelHnFwBTgAr edMPcvdjRcMGdOoONe8wxnjrpE7ePDxsXQHXvzJQcM14em4+k7FK1yf6Ih7xU+UX1W5/ WvbMn4t2Wz4fFjoDU6RC6yv+N4f5qLPEVCORQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:53:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48a20257c67049e6f1e21 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:53:12 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48a20257c67049e6f1e21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well that depends on the host, doesn't it. the plugin parameters are presented for control in bidule and mainstage, so i'm guessing they'll be available in ableton too. tal dub is free, so why not give it a try and see? sim On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > all midi controllable as well? > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > and EXS Little Spacey! > > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo > >> wrote: > >> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac > >> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? > >> > > > > --000e0cd48a20257c67049e6f1e21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well that depends on the host, doesn't it. the plugin parameters are pr= esented for control in bidule and mainstage, so i'm guessing they'l= l be available in ableton too. tal dub is free, so why not give it a try an= d see?

sim

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM,= Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
all midi controllable as well?


On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> and EXS Little Spacey!
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo
>> <louie.angulo@go= oglemail.com> wrote:
>> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration= for mac
>> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendat= ions?
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--000e0cd48a20257c67049e6f1e21-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 10:56:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F42183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GP+aUp1FisPZZf75gHnwqh1zdhJQC98z3YVFtJalltA=; b=JxvV9kZLvD46MjjceW23AaIPer3zyRFLWc/Wwhr90feFnH7eW+J3kxddn6TBau70+9 h0HfK4OdhqZeCvdbhJk++pjBJ464NMpaoQzLfEkQCsyPngU4rTUM2ydfTavmfX5nuX+g D04mv2rQ/knZeKpgN/3GweBpRreYO9hXLCtu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dDuCtI8dNE1qU6yEU34NBiZhS+R1HQ3PhRKVaXV3DmNUzLV/Nqf6R2KiQPKT3k14CP RHwqkbwkN552mOqVkAFDrmebikNbwNvbSf0chuJic9aOI829KvE+wCrHUvYFDUwtmNX7 AQ3RWZGHLI1lyIKIW9yyxlNgvSxkA0+Jq37Y8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:56:55 +0000 (UTC) cool well do! On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well that depends on the host, doesn't it. the plugin parameters are > presented for control in bidule and mainstage, so i'm guessing they'll be > available in ableton too. tal dub is free, so why not give it a try and see? > > sim > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> all midi controllable as well? >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > and EXS Little Spacey! >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo >> >> wrote: >> >> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac >> >> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? >> >> >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 11:30:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 697FB183477; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yjjINonuV3Ph/1kD2TPq+/rA3wnvNsco5yJf3pQiBG8=; b=T0XetVfNFgLoU+yObdU+6KnNZKa/ef5SeZFPNEYc0vTAqCqNWZSyImpMb7HckYrV+Q 8EZqtHlGHJ/pPfbc3lWF28vHCfD54mCd+VxhJl9zMzct4sN1ZifrFBRQr5Yl0u1evueu VzOUmIfFhTGIr1K0dUf5kCNlLJpnnONnoB2J4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b0KO1jCgsw49fJ1EboJIn89FXWhxqP3uyzUDPBuMCO/cjIQDfb0RPmMxu1LT7xbp2v 5EyQjaY4lOCwS1IiQD0zjOMJPDh+MzpoGpB53bBnI3h75HbScnN33SnC9vImgwMk1mce cc/8PgRnIK0jNfieyMiv/syIYpRnVdqAXeJIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:30:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Luis, Check out Augustus Loop and Little Spacey from EXS. Like Per said, Augustus has many many parameters you can use to fine tune the regeneration proces. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 11:50:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18CB5183474; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=awaiHxfKuqqbBsGB2yhXbHqoSOGOEgSV7KXjeIYeKEE=; b=V6OBhY3UmuuBsiPmcH0WHzf2ZXGy72XKyVkRj15OhKJ+huXbOSMUvgJjanjgc0YsNG yW5hS8ybv+la59AKmk5N/+oJvNoYG2Y/7MWyWznjDsua+cWhHnTcxp12R3sNRuxoMyv7 gN1lNO3PllZgQT73NpoIaj1LIN7YWErXnlJrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cxhTStSy/9Thbu2460bpVANndtP1BkX100P6uZS+8LI5e/9tiiHcOsJ2y2v8BhEDPG Utl3GBWAxdrrRDjexdseuvkc3FKRDYvhaTcu/vvoEqw4weaJHrrNFJoceenryTqaYB1c KN6yoD1dAjqFahQfnVWe20CuOikZbIFfyFEPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:50:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Eventide Space - marvelous reverb stomp box! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:50:17 +0000 (UTC) For those who still fear computers on stage, check out this marvelous reverb stomp box from Eventide! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtSUobMug3E Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 11:59:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 423A0183466; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Ii5W+lzITabWp5pexmAJhfiIP2zox8c/M5LAjrTMt68=; b=AlmvmilGyLPSC67lElr2/Dx2Uagbrught85KLrC7g4KwDzRsKay2eKTqhLJwe3LOu+ uGjcVy12K2YHiFNocLzJqIBBeO5njOmUXLj1T4yhuNoNnN0u1skXZa5NeaO1QSmomzjU 14XVJ7k0qDc2UFU+lXvXcyIMRl9zxryqo3IGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KfU4A4RQTFSEHj6mZx33WDRP7ZaZHfjDXLeGYCjTuByNAkDdu9rgkK7Gseb2JaWE0i ajDemCp8/dNcz8QUz4J+hUeQGkZkUnQ1HlGcBt/WW0yJGnHBLzp0dMLqSDYrzwe/pKA7 FiGsd4TUiGGqBM5Qg7VRDrczkvbdhYLXXS7HQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 07:59:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Space - marvelous reverb stomp box! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a33d400f63049e700b27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:59:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a33d400f63049e700b27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and even for those who don't! my pitch factor's been treating me very well= ! These are the best stompboxes I've seen in terms of design. Midi controllable too from midi clips in Ableton. On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > For those who still fear computers on stage, check out this marvelous > reverb stomp box from Eventide! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCtSUobMug3E > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 29th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. http://issueprojectroom.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a33d400f63049e700b27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and even for those who don't! =A0my pitch factor's been treating me= very well! =A0These are the best stompboxes I've seen in terms of desi= gn. =A0Midi controllable too from midi clips in Ableton.=A0

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
For those who still fear computers on stage, check out this marvelous
reverb stomp box from Eventide!

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCtSUobMug3E

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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--20cf3054a33d400f63049e700b27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:21:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73123183459; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s6w1u+Ff2LWcldUf92rn3/3orajj03DHNPwef3me2nE=; b=jWfBPY7nlferiRSPOqDXoSEf1LUURcURkkIynDUoRxhlVFIr0RDz991F6TnaU6ypJT FkqItfoWxWULCsndJ15Z514Ig4wTx3lphScGTePUU/+SAHrjNqDKyBP81Z+wNZwNJI6G kO7FtJtZXSbmETtbxTrkV0I0FPnxiQCMG1OA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=I2ZpxaWSSNUIYCxrL13LcObDA/HBzmzT68swJBhthSGTjVGtchjF58qE1364nnbVrm 8Xe0pZDLljPKNKGf+wv3X7iE2THkeKMWJ11+5uw5D/3KT3mafIHdTanwEFsNAv0/yeBL 7RTPNrWrM9HgAedp3dcRO22WSSkJRU35wCPJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:21:57 +0000 (UTC) yes i just dowloaded it! thanx buds Luis On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Luis, > Check out Augustus Loop and Little Spacey from EXS. Like Per said, > Augustus has many many parameters you can use to fine tune the > regeneration proces. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:25:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1F7D183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B+LWFxmgSRTbdPf938S0Pn7fQe54FS0vA6dbbzH8k9g=; b=lYypgNturWqEQEdvGoHoXk/cxF3IVQVQuA9tC6zG52aFeXRaM5pPK3oHfsjaJQTO44 dv4pVnCXg3Owo5/nJXMYMpSJhEh6fDLDiGb7lus6IOr/Qtlz30PnvNgK9kjueO4isJNd I35XoSTTQlEsW10EAgamLq4l3+64tXAiH85sA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xSpenQl9YJP2NaqAnhFCMiO5ZROGicRjR4ghO0y/GkU/DUH87b7hY9W9vO4eGIkbtr 4+m4OpCpyQ3CjsIQsUGzTgMzqNUyNxInBwQE9K/ABAAhMfTv891IplFUyMrvRcpux8S0 7RLwqkjQu8mj8c7b8Rs0iJTDBEEFk4dgPL5n0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:25:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:25:18 +0000 (UTC) wow Simeon the tal dub is awesome and exactly what i was looking for man thanx a million times!!! i love the "in" button !! i wish it had another button to only hear the direct sound and tap it to bring in the delay again or could that be accomplished through midi perhaps? cheers Luis On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well that depends on the host, doesn't it. the plugin parameters are > presented for control in bidule and mainstage, so i'm guessing they'll be > available in ableton too. tal dub is free, so why not give it a try and see? > > sim > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> all midi controllable as well? >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > and EXS Little Spacey! >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Louie Angulo >> >> wrote: >> >> > im looking for cool tape delay plugins with nice regeneration for mac >> >> > that are midi controllable to use with ableton,any recomendations? >> >> >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:29:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457F7183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dY8EsKFfwZ7s5kr27eXeG/YoSWjp1e5fZ8zpNN03Y/g=; b=vlv2tKQ/M4gIXW+p/tjgu4lR56bQZbC+Ihcy+mYUnCXzQXe/k4BFF37CUznfJYgopA HFhUsgkj1mq3RwD9OTyMhfNVOh3TWjp3mdwev1y0E9lF1gsDtNyW3NoOke0gvNTDOcaI D6JDJMLM2Eutfmh04kTTlnksqaaADlK0z7758= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=DAY+hKWkVbuOU/M0O+xEFJUAuQMjLh+YL71o/utl5Jq8xBB/lWoVynz2RfFyEX3vXX n/L5EvHHDJVysnE9jMmXncFAFZM3LtaDxjSqSd3ZpY2/vfexbnxBN+7FI+nsPMrn4S8E WKyawoWufxMNUSxJfPciDNEGOyAymE3BxhLvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:29:17 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ad8a739bcd049e714cb7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:29:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ad8a739bcd049e714cb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 try attaching a midi cc to the mix parameter - 0% will be dry only, 50% will be dry+delay and 100% will be delay only sim On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > wow Simeon the tal dub is awesome and exactly what i was looking for > man thanx a million times!!! > i love the "in" button !! i wish it had another button to only hear > the direct sound and tap it to bring in the delay again > or could that be accomplished through midi perhaps? > cheers > Luis > > > > --000e0cd6ad8a739bcd049e714cb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable try attaching a midi cc to the mix parameter - 0% will be dry only, 50% wil= l be dry+delay and 100% will be delay only

sim

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemai= l.com> wrote:
wow Simeon the ta= l dub is awesome and exactly what i was looking for
man thanx a million times!!!
i love the "in" button !! i wish it had another button to only he= ar
the direct sound and tap it to bring in the delay again
or could that be accomplished through midi perhaps?
cheers
Luis



--000e0cd6ad8a739bcd049e714cb7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:45:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02BF8183460; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Aq/+3TeU4LNJuZe2IEaDL6m9xOzGAhYCa6JgHuEus8g=; b=YC/4XbHLEAmShT/9plssnNDtZtTCj7o1HZfznNvQi0NeQYEgkTGeOzPlHQjshEXSTB b08vgTemqaDKMW8qt/TozHPD7JyIjmQraBHjAQTP30yjHumfkd/KT3yzDhRdV0eU9mVB j3AtFQv5eRKjS1B1d9FKszkV9rxG0OrVdOYDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oNeJ2acq1BYWymHZD7utayKJhI36Egirw4ail2UU81eYWJBNh1jX7/IiLNP/fDaoBV cyNItYuPupn7b7Pfl6vIIR+hyEHTSgGl8nALKvdPR4Dow/n6iq2BK2mwfTa1RdYOXYvo ukgZ1QVYWHMzrBKcjOb6MK+GyGtgEN30E6jC8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6AKgQ.A.l_H.lvhfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:45:09 +0000 (UTC) yes that it! On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > try attaching a midi cc to the mix parameter - 0% will be dry only, 50% will > be dry+delay and 100% will be delay only > > sim > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> wow Simeon the tal dub is awesome and exactly what i was looking for >> man thanx a million times!!! >> i love the "in" button !! i wish it had another button to only hear >> the direct sound and tap it to bring in the delay again >> or could that be accomplished through midi perhaps? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:47:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B308B183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3CGSdlmIluOruWOuANWp71Oc9/0IGKFKTajnxOh8oTQ=; b=q5L+V5xW4FsOUvELfL4vrDkUOisZsaIoGzSrR4IpctY9UwJK40cBQw82vKATd4Nxdq d9kqEa/6Y8DDpkAGVIezWEnO80glWuwT9OAF9dJ2R5nFk+FdjNGHMoZmqbaT+cV9Sax5 8sQh7yhxCXzmzXPjs95jQ3k73/KKE0T7VFaVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QxO54uzP60cxwdoW7qRLxfRSA2uNvV8Jr4kZ2dAy2k2ztk6gO4/WZXmRj6XZxtAlDA 2t6If10Lj7WMVpGxsIyRRkEONd1NTY6SZMJc8j3Pw1KMZOhv8+c8Oz0icyG/SB2SQXjx G3SA8DRVtSW02hjAG0PGaMQZnPM1VR2pyUlqU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:47:52 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I can recommend EchoBoy from SoundToys and Timeless2 from FabFilter. > Timeless has better wobble and flutter simulation while EchoBoys can > also sound like a cool reverb besides the usual tape loop delay > simulation. wow very impressive effects im just trying them out,and classy looking to say the least! thanx a lot Per and all of you,they are all very cool gotta love this list! > Ohm Force's OhmBoyz is another good tape delay sim plugin. > > Oh, almost forgot to mention Expert Sleeper's Augustus Loop! That's a > really good tape sim plugin. I especially like its "inertia", the tape > noise created as you speed up or slow down a tape loop. That lovely > noise can be totally controlled over external MIDI if you want. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 13:55:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E09183449; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:55:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uLl6SSmD4L9UxJx9AwOcvbso3Ay/MMKiJe2c+3YPrBk=; b=Q6uGQk3GOmJK3e3oy6q34oORh22CSIDb6gnLvwr315jF7hkpo3v++SnrC617wfBiDz BN48X8aCs0u/VpXd1KbiHfQBxAvlPnXmn+WCr6l4GM5kJEPPfeP3GyxLGSLaGG/9INn+ CXUNMbEZ+yGe1wNTyvLc32x2jtqSHFFDfw4vA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xw/XKEr6AEOthZ/kpzzISRFujejbpHRp0s5QTWmwZo9kH8Thk7V6/495m+m4kKthm9 nVfFvR7AHamFwGEzCn+2Vc/8RvaZAOUHRIWDUVqLcIVGJOu8SiYGj2zrr0Pufe7xHJmP ie/vdkkV65jZ/Zz2Iv1qbZfjg3Trq6iJn4p3A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:55:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape,vintage delays plugins for mac midi controllable From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:55:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > wow very impressive effects im just trying them out,and classy looking > to say the least! > thanx a lot Per and all of you,they are all very cool gotta love this list! :-) IMHO the Native Bundle from SoundToys is the way to go if you want to "roll your own Eventide" by software plugins on a computer. I've actually grown more fond of using EchoBoy as reverb rather than dedicated reverb algorithms. I just love that shimmering tape delay cloud that slowly tilts over... Always keeping it pre looper for "freeze verb" by an expression pedal assigned to its Feedack, Wet/Dry Mix and Output Level parameters (each parameter locally scaled for optimally musical soundscape morphing) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 14:36:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F0E6183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2b87b1a8-f582-4f7e-9df7-abc731249e94_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:36:42 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: ,<936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2011 14:36:43.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CE37BF0:01CBE255] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --_2b87b1a8-f582-4f7e-9df7-abc731249e94_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do this kind of loopy type things i have one track set as a "though" machin= e to which i also apply effects=2C in this case a LOT of delay... I have on= track with a trigg sampling from input which will play what is send to the= input put i can put triggless trigs and other manipulation that i cant do = on an "through" machine=2C so the machine i flex and it is recording and pl= ying back with a bit of latency (a bug that will be fix=2C you can control = latency with "micro timing"=2C i want a slight delay=2C to this machine i s= ometimes have triggless trigs that pitch shifts (the pitch shifting is not = necessarily chromatic=2C it is -12 to place +12 steps with out with no fixe= d steps=2C i can map this to scenes=2C which i have done in this clip=2C to= have sliding pitch shifts available on the cross-fader. Track 8 is master = an is used to apply=2C in this case=2C a reverb to all tracks. All other tr= acks are Flex Machines to which i sample my live playing. Until next OS rel= ease I need to press record and track to record=2C it's not great for live = looping. On most of these sampling track i apply some "stuff" effects=2C di= fferent start points. sequencer re-triggs=2C reverse=2C pitch shift.. the w= orks... I sort of set up some start parameters en then i tweak while playin= g to go with the flow.=20 Cheers=2C Anders Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2011 00:56:50 -0700 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com hello Anders=2C sounds like you are enjoying the octotrack. most curious to hear what you a= re doing with it as you discover the possibilities. How do you set up the l= ive looping for now? Antony From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sun=2C March 13=2C 2011 8:19:25 PM Subject: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Again having FUN with the Elektron Octatrack=2C an amazing little instrumen= t! So again no real amp=2C just a V-stack Tweedy and my Soloway Swan with l= ollar minihums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a lot... not sure wha= t to call the "music" style... perhaps crazy... This machine as a lot of li= mitations as a looper=2C in this OS=2C but it does things normal looper don= 't=2C eight separate channels=2C sequencer=2C great effects (that can be tr= iggered by sequencer)=2C 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control=2C pitch= =2C AMP that=2C together with Chorus=2C makes a guitar loop sound like a B3= on acid... IT'S FUN!!!=20 http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs As for the octa.. one through machine=2C one flex with a trig record the re= st are flex tracks sampled live... some scene mapping (the crazy pitch shif= t in the begning for example)=2C trigless trigs. ALL effects are the octa N= OTHING added in the mix Feedback and questions are welcome Enjoy ? Anders =20 = --_2b87b1a8-f582-4f7e-9df7-abc731249e94_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do this kind of= loopy type things i have one track set as a "though" machine to which i al= so apply effects=2C in this case a LOT of delay... I have on track with a t= rigg sampling from input =3Bwhich =3Bwill play what is send to the = input put i can put triggless trigs and other manipulation that i cant do o= n an "through" machine=2C so the machine i flex and it is recording and ply= ing back with a bit of =3Blatency =3B(a bug that will be fix=2C you= can control latency with "micro timing"=2C i want a slight delay=2C to thi= s machine i =3Bsometimes =3Bhave triggless trigs that pitch shifts = (the pitch shifting is not =3Bnecessarily =3Bchromatic=2C it is -12= to place +12 steps with out with no fixed steps=2C i can map this to scene= s=2C which i have done in this clip=2C to have sliding =3Bpitch shifts&= nbsp=3Bavailable =3Bon the =3Bcross-fader. Track 8 is master an is = used to apply=2C in this case=2C a reverb to all tracks. All other tracks a= re Flex Machines to which i sample my live playing. Until next OS =3Bre= lease =3BI need to press record and track to record=2C it's not great f= or live looping. On most of these sampling track i apply some "stuff" effec= ts=2C different start points. =3Bsequencer =3Bre-triggs=2C reverse= =2C pitch shift.. the works... =3B
I sort of set up some start parameters e= n then i tweak while playing to go with the flow. =3B
=
Cheers= =2C

Anders

Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2011 00:56:50 -0700<= /font>
From:= antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff...
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

hello Anders=2C

sounds like = you are enjoying the octotrack. most curious to hear what you are doing wit= h it as you discover the possibilities. How do you set up the live looping = for now?

Antony

From: Anders Bergdahl <=3Banders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>=3B=
To: Loopers Delight <= =3Bloopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
Sent: Sun=2C March 13=2C 2011 8:19:25 PM
Subject: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff...

Again havi= ng FUN with the Elektron Octatrack=2C an amazing little instrument! So agai= n no real amp=2C just a V-stack Tweedy and my Soloway Swan with lollar mini= hums and I'm actually using the NECK pickup a lot... not sure what to call = the "music" style... perhaps crazy... =3B
This machine as a lot of limitations as a looper=2C in th= is OS=2C but it does things normal looper don't=2C eight separate channels= =2C =3Bsequencer=2C great effects (that can be triggered by sequencer)= =2C 2 LFO's for EACH channel that can control=2C pitch=2C AMP that=2C toget= her with Chorus=2C makes a guitar loop sound like a B3 on acid... IT'S FUN!= !! =3B
http://soundcloud.co= m/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-8-a-flood-engulfs

As for the octa.. one through machine=2C one flex = with a trig record the rest are flex tracks sampled live... some scene mapp= ing (the crazy pitch shift in the begning for example)=2C trigless trigs. A= LL effects are the octa NOTHING added in the mix

Feedback and questions are welcome

=
Enjoy ? Anders
= =20

= --_2b87b1a8-f582-4f7e-9df7-abc731249e94_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 15:14:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56939183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 593209110/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmICAFvNfU1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmHXNeoViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,316,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="593209110" Message-ID: <4D7E30CA.2040302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:14:18 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-mISOD.A.dHC.6CjfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:14:02 +0000 (UTC) hi Mark, ok, actually the problem is we have no idea of what the circuitry looks like around that mute knob. Maybe it's worth phoning your local Behringer dealer and asking for a service sheet. It's not an unreasonable request. I had a look at the manual for the mixer, it doesn't have a block diagram. If the inputs were mono making the Mute button hack on *one* channel would likely have an effect on the signal that's going through the channel. i.e. you dry signal might drop in level. ...it's *possible* it would work ok of course, but I'd be surprised. Doing it more than one channel certain to produce problems, ...the channels with the "mute" button presses would all be shorted together...each of those tracks would have the same blend of inputs going through it. ..and as your using stereo, there's no option to just use one channel at a time. (any stereo ch you used the mute button on would be mono-ised) That's why there'd have to be, at minimum, some resistors on each connection from mute switch to the new "bus". (which would need some additional gain to compensate). andy mark francombe wrote: >> just *one* modded mute button. >> >> For some reason I thought all of them. > > No you WERE right... I was simplifying... There are 6 channels (ok 3 > stereo) of guitar... > > so really its: > > > GUITAR ________________ stomp boxes ____ TC Fireworx_____ > Vortex_____________ MIXER 1/2 > | > |___________ Hex pickup splitter______GR 30 and many more From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 15:24:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9297183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=XHHe5T4ciobyrfpXHqfknTw2Yn71I20cz6pg36WZE6k=; b=j48doKrCh3YBqrzJxSeP5s4o1aWmkFaVDZMItg5380XOaW0wg5bgGX7LZjjZ0qJ/4+ B/BSam6p8lkp6+vT+ac72uyWLxjdrU0R0I1c0smZiMWCO3/mIPIKc8y2mpVxRwK6waAf 6bPDb8C3w38Y/O771uq4EskA1Vn1QZ4KFI1Ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nd8T1mZ/+uPQLdXJ//eTeeyqJWiGceS44dysziEjgtEbPdTT4RZIZn5WlVtNanLtg5 St/29pNRg9xMUz/k/eAN/M18V2rGNYgdBe1j/kZ5NtX31lhXc0iwFZGvNzKenDjNdi9/ HygPt+oGBFYU1VzwSD3g/iQFQYCG7Bl5/fOK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:10:47 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: txSNwv--SiiZeXfwapDMT7MMPkE Message-ID: Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:24:05 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: t i can put triggless trigs and other manipulation that i cant do on > an "through" machine, > Anders > Hey Anders, you keep mentioning "trigless trigs" .. Can you explain this concept, what it is actually? Its sounds like its to do with triggering effects automatically, but how? and why are they "trig-less"? Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 15:37:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4D08183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MvbDsf7/Y4vzXENrtXShCQwntvXDl1G0FeWdl5Xu0aI=; b=h+43feMVEhwdE09dBNO0AMHR5acSVscB5LP5Fm/MHgiLYFUVR8x56+kDtapoSIoW1R JMLyLp2XtZU9vGHcKZV/xd8KtNvQ3HezrRAVbJFfqflRImrAxEpLLFTr+ddybghpm7Lv 4PUXHOc/zARtm/xVWSptWRb6HRPGgb7zJZQvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=AznGEz4SwHUSb37lUJle8O9VaxwUR3WYkIhMNa4Ns+IhGmUbRDAZIfj0H913gh9PeM Fmd9uZ4MzIHNPI6ulTDoNK9AOeXlMfhazLSQo6VbwfsvvdYE2JRgeyRcCEUHhTI9s7Q2 tEnffAeJTwDNmHUTdYdhtPyp8mmT7MfncJ/4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D7E30CA.2040302@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7E30CA.2040302@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:35:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wkk40qIUEhnIU3dgamSBDZ5ehTQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:37:02 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, andy butler wrote: > Doing it more than one channel certain to produce problems, > ...the channels with the "mute" button presses would all be shorted > together...each of those tracks would have the same blend of > inputs going through it. > Actually Andy, I kinda thought of that just after I hit send... its a STEREO channel. so its very unlikely to be that easy... The good news is though that I did an extremely high volume comparison of the mixer "hissyness", I was sure that it was introducing some hiss into the chain. It isnt.. I made a little exercise using my patchbay where I could A/B by just inserting one cable and the mixer was taken out of the chain.. no hiss, no distortion, no audible change in eq or dynamics.. so... I think the logo on the front was affecting my ears.. I saw Behringer and thought.. hissy shit.. it isnt!!! Im very pleasantly suprised... PLUS I think you can daisychain them if you want more channels... This mixer is extremely cheap... I think that this thread where I asked for alternatives ends here with me recommending the mixer I already have.. Behringer Eurorack Pro 1U 16 input. still need a way to send to loopers without using the sends though .. grr ...what a weird old world! -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 16:04:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78C84183463; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:01:05 -0700 Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:04:10 +0000 (UTC) > I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not to mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 16:35:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B845C183473; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O/X/qWp/pxJJeJHirYhZ1HsjsqsvnhA4rvm+neTEGI0=; b=Gq/CRWx+owMHoEZWxnnTO4bdBo0Aoigl5x4fJBaXiFv0F64fQdEWEkvthfFixZOeBE D91bjbC+9A3qKvOHfAPbiOBrsvJfC2I7fdbwnrcD0CGFKIc8cuxO272WKd8T3tJNQhG1 DOwXW/p4XzV5WH0hnWWJFDoK8CUOjVGW04o8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ve/oxm1Zg1eP5yg7nDdVZNjxkGCpdzz+R2jAsqFRJClsZHG3/pF5QuWrwBUWvd/6fJ Nl1ukuQj5luld5V6Rk743d/1bOAZ/DP2eYM5vHK1r1oXPWLf5YVdqh1pWq613rCK2BL2 3Uds3wdUdE2NkJqRg5a6u+10Kx9f1bdGRHVU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:35:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: John McLaughlin on Al Jazeera From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Agreed on Al Jazeera. Even Hilary had to admit they kick butt. We've had it on cable here for a while and I've been an addict since a few days before Mubarak stepped down. Every time I flip back to CNN it's in the middle of another drug commercial. k On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Thanks for the hint. Just marvelous! ...to quote Johnny ;-) > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Art Simon wrote: > > I've just recently discovered Al Jazeera, and I'm bowled over by the > > quality of the news coverage. I stumbled on this interview with John > > McLaughlin by Riz Khan. McLaughlin comes across as such a nice guy! > > It's surprising to me that the interviewer seems to care less about > > Miles Davis or Tony Williams. The interview really focuses on > > McLaughlin's early years and the influence of France and India, though > > Miles comes up quite a bit at the end. I enjoyed it quite a bit. > > http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/oneonone/2010/12/201012221565167269.html > > > > -- > > Art Simon > > simart@gmail.com > > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 16:53:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD59183473; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583755019/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.22/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.22 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmICAAflfU1YbRAW/2dsb2JhbAAMmHfOK4ViBJAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,316,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583755019" Message-ID: <4D7E47E2.8040307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:52:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! References: <4D7B66FE.7070502@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BB046.4050606@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7BCAC2.5070203@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7E30CA.2040302@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:53:26 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > still need a way to send to loopers without using the sends though .. grr You could make a small passive mixer. Just resistors and switches. but enough gain in the input of each looper would be essential > > ...what a weird old world! yep, I think Behringer get more bashing than they deserve. That thing they do with the yellow LEDs that actually fade in to make the valves glow realistically always cheers me up. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 16:58:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DBDE183466; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AXLqqlDjIVWzJMFgqeJ6s4qiIK7z0NtACt3sy1CPx2I=; b=HlPCO5CLeBkaJlHdajCa3aV2fTx4/dJNYmHYkLtfOstbtO3POx6qxuRXcHK/owEQyV M9lxzYma+UDjjHXLwPt4nD0SgKjhF/MmHituTdZxscjpxL6DkFnmlPqM2JuxuzTNyj1O kS2dvOP13T2789tJTtPAKn5SQOGmOagQpfeSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=id7NOZcRuBAi/Zim05tAdzYi2625HM8jx8q+BeLk6mF76pZeaINCrJQkdChsVbrgNh cra8fEPvNLEv8RLIFvn/IdTDzHMBj5jWyJSR9RIm9EGqOypVwnv6Jf2MygSKT3/cTTc8 tkTx806JoeyMqgvQorwTl+wDtGuccf7jRyzNE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:57:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The old "1U MIXER thread" Once again for fun! From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:58:00 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:10 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Absolute necessities MUST BE (dont post if these are not available) > 1) 1U ... ok 2U MAX!!! > 2) 8 STEREO channels (16 mono is also ok, but annoying..) > 3) 1 AUX SEND Not cheap but if you combine Motu 828mk and expand it with a 8pre to have more than 16 channels, in 2U ;-) Btw: they work standalon and have flexible routing options to setup stereo aux send returns. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 16:59:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89771183476; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-14_05:2011-03-14,2011-03-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103140097 Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Daniel Thomas X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-reply-to: <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:59:39 -0700 Message-id: <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Nothing compares to the UAD plug-ins. Worth every penny. May I have another card? D On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, billwalker@baymoon.com wrote: >> > I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is > incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased > because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second > to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD > card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for > the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not to > mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 17:30:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 378C0183466; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E1F96talHc459r+c2RMgbsx9RJRb8DMxbEot8SuG1CM=; b=QcnqwugIBJewlZsipaz3XxR8Emj+/DJ/083u7EAb6qLuN8VohM3pU9I+8O/R+hwDMy ymKreQJ4sJM6EuGnyA+I6ZKe+YXqji9oLqDxq9c991P4aAt8c11f/ZQOmcHe4i3DqzbM LE0hE221BdBraek58V1PysvT4qVsCQNgmx518= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X6lEjAF37iNTnb54OIUkljjhXxWtX/2N8hAHx343QPQ9KENzpYh4TJOM68bCXEJUK2 eiz0kkGJk8QpUtpD8eozqMumKEqvfx8cZL4Y7TGob/C4ofhRbTtmKLASzOlyHNBOIKPb ljWIAUzXzLy8HQlKyLhBnX3plk0Ue3wCkktOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:26:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Seconded! UAD has always been "the best" among studio effect software plugin tools. One should add that they have only recently become available for laptop live musicians. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Nothing compares to the UAD plug-ins. =C2=A0Worth every penny. =C2=A0May = I have another card? > > D > On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, billwalker@baymoon.com wrote: > >>> >> I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is >> incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased >> because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second >> to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD >> card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for >> the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not = to >> mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. >> Bill >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 17:50:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B49183476; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6c43671e-797b-4669-a403-60c2a0a75755_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:50:21 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2011 17:50:22.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A6BBBA0:01CBE270] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC) --_6c43671e-797b-4669-a403-60c2a0a75755_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ohh sorry there seems like there is "elektron" talk just like there is EDP = talk :)Normally on the sequencer you trig a sample=2C each button represent= a possible trig. In the Elektron product you can but a parameter to be cha= nged on a sequencer trig step=2C this is called a Trigless trig... So these= trigless trigs can be effects parameters (filter=2C delay=2C chorus=2C etc= settings for example a Delay time change on step 4 of the sequence pattern= ) or on the octatrack it can be Pitch=2C amp parameters and so on... So ins= tead of trigging a new sample=2C or retrigging sample=2C you trigger other = parameters... Very FUN.... there is even a possibility to slide the changes= so instead of an instant pitch shift a fifth up it slides from root to fif= th.. > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2011 16:10:47 +0100 > Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2011 at 3:36 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl > wrote: > t i can put triggless trigs and other manipulation that i cant do on > > an "through" machine=2C > > Anders > > >=20 >=20 > Hey Anders=2C you keep mentioning "trigless trigs" .. Can you explain > this concept=2C what it is actually? Its sounds like its to do with > triggering effects automatically=2C but how? and why are they > "trig-less"? >=20 > Mark >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >=20 = --_6c43671e-797b-4669-a403-60c2a0a75755_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ohh sorry there= seems like there is "elektron" talk just like there is EDP talk :)<= div>Normally on= the sequencer you trig a sample=2C each button represent a possible trig. = In the Elektron product you can but a parameter to be changed on a sequence= r trig step=2C this is called a Trigless trig... So these trigless trigs ca= n be effects parameters (filter=2C delay=2C =3Bchorus=2C etc =3Bset= tings for example a Delay time change on step 4 of the sequence pattern) or= on the octatrack it can be Pitch=2C amp parameters and so on... So instead= of trigging a new sample=2C or retrigging sample=2C you trigger other para= meters... Very FUN.... there is even a =3Bpossibility =3Bto slide t= he changes so instead of an =3Binstant =3Bpitch shift a =3Bfift= h =3Bup it slides from root to =3Bfifth..

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>=3B On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2011 at 3:36 PM=2C Anders Ber= gdahl
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>=3B this concept=2C what it is actual= ly? Its sounds like its to do with
>=3B triggering effects automatically=2C bu= t how? and why are they
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= = --_6c43671e-797b-4669-a403-60c2a0a75755_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 18:05:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 047BA183479; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" Subject: OT Understanding your Muse - A Musical Experiment Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01cbe272$742ebbc0$5c8c3340$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CBE248.8B695590" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Acvicm8RqFb5WqnFREWaDABSHnaKFA== X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CBE248.8B695590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Looping Colleagues! I'm doing an experiment to understand the creative process better for writing music. No money involved, just for fun and understanding and perhaps sharing the learnings with folks. (As an FYI I'm an Innovation Design Consultant by day) The premise is this. I provide you with this amazing mood board. It is to be your inspiration for a song. Use it however you seem fit, all of it, part of it. The link is here: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/3819194257_4ed328ae1d_o.jpg Use this board as inspiration for your tune. Please be cognizant of what you are doing and how. It's important for the next step. After writing/composing the tune, please complete the following short survey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NZXGQFS When all is done, we can share the musical outputs if we so desire (I think it would make for a cool webpage) and I'll analyze the data from the surveys and publish it. But ultimately? The song is YOURS; I have no rights to anything you do; as stated before however, I may share the output of the surveys. Timeline? When I did this for myself using a different mood board, I forced myself to do it in a week. (Some of you may be familiar with that tune, but I won't point you to it for risk of tainting how you do/describe things.) If it takes you longer, please let me know, I'm happy to wait! You can always contact me with questions at mike@michaelplishka.com or at michael@zenstorming.com Have fun and looking forward to hearing how you work with your muses!! Michael Plishka aka Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CBE248.8B695590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey = Looping Colleagues!

 

I'm doing an = experiment to understand the creative process better for writing = music.  No money involved, just for fun and understanding and = perhaps sharing the learnings with folks. (As an FYI I'm an Innovation = Design Consultant by day)

 

The premise = is this.  I provide you with this amazing mood board. It is to be = your inspiration for a song.  Use it however you seem fit, all of = it, part of it. The link is here:

= http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/3819194257_4ed328ae1d_o.jpg<= /o:p>

 

Use this board as inspiration for your tune.  = Please be cognizant of what you are doing and how.  It's important = for the next step.

 

After = writing/composing the tune, please complete the following short = survey. 

 

http://www.surveymonkey.co= m/s/NZXGQFS

 

When all is = done, we can share the musical outputs if we so desire (I think it would = make for a cool webpage) and I'll analyze the data from the surveys and = publish it. But ultimately? The song is YOURS; I have no rights to = anything you do; as stated before however, I may share the output of the = surveys.

 

Timeline?  When I did this for myself using a = different mood board, I forced myself to do it in a week.  (Some of = you may be familiar with that tune, but I won't point you to it for risk = of tainting how you do/describe things.) If it takes you longer, please = let me know, I'm happy to wait!

 

You can = always contact me with questions at mike@michaelplishka.com or = at michael@zenstorming.com =

 

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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CBE248.8B695590-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 19:05:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B77CC183475; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=OXsYGbTa8SUJm1fwaKKskHQK1Aa0lzYu1rJNsi7EKK411BKsn33LFx0j2TzrE4Uv; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:05:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec793c9a508e39ad8393d9e9af9670d118f5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Who do you know at UA, Bill? > > >I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is >incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased >because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second >to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD >card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for >the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not to >mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. >Bill -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 20:36:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E822D183462; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aFl5UNi8iuLw/UGNZcB8qZ+CR/Iy3t24YNhy7S0WgI8=; b=alw0L03RD71WYaGVji7/rX1MY6QppnKEr9+GYrm/hJAcXW8Mi6GHazbYC7rDLx1Hbk RdAqBzOqAhB+IF9uHAGSBebVBsxQ99EPhVC1r2wMNQOVOii4gs8qlsuzbl/u8/w4DotR yDrcmAqGM+59h/n2nHV15FDJYD1nFdKz0Zo3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wSjnGb+QCY+a88Ei+mupYCXNTyF6LyEU0Wzal/NgLOr92cZDdIxqs9fVaR+SGpUizA x+4YOS3GMkThHryY+ruGklNaqSzmLI7dgUhQygelq8znJnv87MbpqScgUZrn1nE8mcK/ 13EEeOoMWDMZ7HmmK3SNcDbFyca+b2S0kfC5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:36:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8yVWMoQDXpPJfXNyN6IsuUbW1Qc Message-ID: Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Anders, you made all that sound very interesting in deed... following with interest? Arnt you in Norway? Any chance of a demo? Mark On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > Normally on the sequencer you trig a sample, each button represent a > possible trig. In the Elektron product you can but a parameter to be chan= ged > on a sequencer trig step, this is called a Trigless trig... So these > trigless trigs can be effects parameters (filter, delay,=A0chorus, > etc=A0settings for example a Delay time change on step 4 of the sequence > pattern) or on the octatrack it can be Pitch, amp parameters and so on...= So > instead of trigging a new sample, or retrigging sample, you trigger other > parameters... Very FUN.... there is even a=A0possibility=A0to slide the c= hanges > so instead of an=A0instant=A0pitch shift a=A0fifth=A0up it slides from ro= ot > to=A0fifth.. --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 20:40:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3778183453; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_98c8d510-8173-43fe-a80b-707762ad1bb1_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:40:03 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <936216.39849.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2011 20:40:04.0251 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF5676B0:01CBE287] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:40:05 +0000 (UTC) --_98c8d510-8173-43fe-a80b-707762ad1bb1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stockholm=2C Sweden.. give me a shout if you come here. I'm very seldom in = Norway these days... sadly. > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2011 21:36:18 +0100 > Subject: Re: More octatrack "looping" kind of stuff... > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Thanks Anders=2C you made all that sound very interesting in deed... > following with interest? Arnt you in Norway? Any chance of a demo? >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2011 at 6:50 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl > wrote: > > Normally on the sequencer you trig a sample=2C each button represent a > > possible trig. In the Elektron product you can but a parameter to be ch= anged > > on a sequencer trig step=2C this is called a Trigless trig... So these > > trigless trigs can be effects parameters (filter=2C delay=2C chorus=2C > > etc settings for example a Delay time change on step 4 of the sequence > > pattern) or on the octatrack it can be Pitch=2C amp parameters and so o= n... So > > instead of trigging a new sample=2C or retrigging sample=2C you trigger= other > > parameters... Very FUN.... there is even a possibility to slide the cha= nges > > so instead of an instant pitch shift a fifth up it slides from root > > to fifth.. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >=20 = --_98c8d510-8173-43fe-a80b-707762ad1bb1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stockholm=2C Sweden.. give me a shout if you come here. I'm very seldom in = Norway these days... sadly.

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= --_98c8d510-8173-43fe-a80b-707762ad1bb1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 14 20:50:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF69D183459; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eFbJONVwvmcqMiZGoFAbVYYeFqgf71TvVgRgzPxuDIQ=; b=ARgHr95WrvguYUpzQ9v+rCf8SrYYeCbGGD/JekOT7iu6u11GG2/taMW0vGb004YsJW GYbAhpKG3YfP+8krZW5NFXfqdgsszjSC4JpioKhhfqjmcTNP17oN9llVj5Uh08XG3RGv XTzmA6BNAVwvXU6DHq7Yj8SA+lB+OcG2HPBlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mwW8i8KAOpk2JUTkhFpJbtxNTGtWrhHBeZ4SQq0wAgfHhoF7351S+WaaIqySw9t3ws FlQv9yD42b9XzDepdImdVjrC7US7MFwzpLGrg0S1YH1CuzFlAzjQKaVTUmcngQNzqktN QDise8IiG8btOlhZc7rjRK3VDaRhqfEhY9fvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:50:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-v0d5D.A.NME.D-nfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:50:11 +0000 (UTC) they do look amazing too bad no x press cards for imacs buuuu but the dongle sounds like a good thing! On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:01 PM, wrote: >> > I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is > incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased > because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second > to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD > card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for > the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not to > mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 00:10:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4BF183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_46389453-626e-4d8c-bcd0-c669d682c073_" X-Originating-IP: [68.241.156.188] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: OT: FRO vs SXSW Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:10:39 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2011 00:10:40.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B0545E0:01CBE2A5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:10:41 +0000 (UTC) --_46389453-626e-4d8c-bcd0-c669d682c073_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to let you guys know=2C I have teamed up with USTREAM and will be broadcasting LIVE from SXSW ALL W= EEK. From approximately 2PM to 2AM central time every day=2C you can sign i= n and see what SXSW is all about. Tune in @ www.TheWanderingMadman.com OR d= ownload the USTREAM app for your phone and search for "The Wandering Madman= " ----Tonights show will begin at 9:00PM---- ----Tweet me! Help spread the word---- The Wandering Madman=20 = --_46389453-626e-4d8c-bcd0-c669d682c073_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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= --_46389453-626e-4d8c-bcd0-c669d682c073_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 09:43:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCB8F183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Line6 DL4 expression pedal Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:43:45 +0100 Message-ID: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: Acvi9XlRkltb2oXOS8CR0ai902C4Mw== Resent-Message-ID: <28OZI.A.e0F.XTzfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:43:51 +0000 (UTC) after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay speed) I finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression pedal - it has a mono plug, other than the other expression pedals, and I thought it should do the trick. But I don't get it - there is a pattern in how this pedal behaves, but I don't grasp it, and I can't find a good explanation anywhere online. Could a kind soul please explain to me how to set the parameters when in loop sampler mode? whatever I try, the pedal changes delay speed. How can I set the mix, for example, without changing the delay speed or regen? what do I have to do, step by step? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 09:49:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6F2C183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133898.29944.bm@omp1002.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=TmUVXcKjYfT3/7IA1tSYriBZhkidUXKUlBmXPsoNMsalZQ5bhWr9XM10rzMYYKzLniYYj9+yYSP5w0x58V/4q0VHh1TFy6Cf75y7TOxKcs49K2PD9aFu8OiIM1gL97qy/8CL1hXlq+PaXSkvCGuFEe5NeoYTb1C8J/GOjEA8brY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300182541; bh=7vapXnYKPvQTO3bJYTch2L3sM973RuNezzUFtD9reEo=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=RK5Uy88mzJM9OJHw221mECPMYVLBUf0rQb+RGiGQmhgBxvZa7XdGNQV5kvtxObxm89ba1th9BellsPKuuFZRal5tb5Ln5SFlmiMH6Y6FuiJnoUmneOuYfMBdf03nE8mtNFGMgLVr7EwCJqQcykAsy6bhi7VPhr9yE3Um6UapgXs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: j59bTSwVM1nbNJVdD4eFN.SXukGBNf5Z2aFWlpOLAAdza6g m7DYFKMVUtQDh9y46lPyMTVvAGklMK27yh4poFyucmwyPlgwANLOA.iwTRwU PaVoF4F7WVFFcsY8hqpFsHAtuKtkN6LdidHS4RxdPkaLioBT6XlBr5ispYkY tVBC82LiNNEKQw4bq7HtctmdxjOEd1_ezYRVd22eprn3v78i41JV_obPSrd1 C.sMXW9zr.Wb13s8GMwHrwc99UBOx1R2L1b5z X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Re: Line6 DL4 expression pedal From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:48:59 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CF080E5-9779-4118-97BA-6C377107E75D@btinternet.com> References: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: <6H2_XB.A.w8F.OYzfNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:49:02 +0000 (UTC) I tried my one the other day after we spoke about it and it didn't work = on anything!! On 15 Mar 2011, at 09:43, Michael Peters wrote: > after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay = speed) I > finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression = pedal - it > has a mono plug, other than the other expression pedals, and I thought = it > should do the trick. But I don't get it - there is a pattern in how = this > pedal behaves, but I don't grasp it, and I can't find a good = explanation > anywhere online. >=20 > Could a kind soul please explain to me how to set the parameters when = in > loop sampler mode? whatever I try, the pedal changes delay speed. How = can I > set the mix, for example, without changing the delay speed or regen? = what do > I have to do, step by step? >=20 > -Michael >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 10:31:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEE17183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 593623200/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8CADvdfk1V0r2K/2dsb2JhbAAMmH3QZoViBJAg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,321,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="593623200" Message-ID: <4D7F3FE6.3010502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:31:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Line6 DL4 expression pedal References: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:31:56 +0000 (UTC) did you try following the manual *exactly*? If you changed the delay speed, then the hardware part would appear to be working. andy Michael Peters wrote: > after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay speed) I > finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression pedal - From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 12:58:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34D1E18345F; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7x1IV8h4JWakA9u9ZAyU4MeTk1tfJghatYoZTgbjgn0=; b=RVJTktkbsmwwwZVjWJyGZdUQivhRo5ssg9Dox0KR2dnuvdClDTk6E57DShYSiKXWQ/ WkbgAbdBD6CeE4nOJ7NOy9Abkdk7avWBsbR1FpCH+GjvuakBrEkIn6uRG139K12YOvZS W5RGFQ5dU1ElkQB6yPhF6WJR5/Lp9fLQNX1f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AoQ7Vh2h7tqQOXLOE/2b0NXr0eQWjEuGxErmZStMMYU7T4/4GAGtCgLu6m6PvBKNkH 9t1l/0PArQKsVYvgKtkoIVE2Bnovk1vE0KXvStbJV7a5Nu30l8RT5v9dIAaB/EMH7Ttb /KY3m381ZwoBSD8gyURo2DU2jtzIRq30u+Ers= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> References: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Line6 DL4 expression pedal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f91dda21ac6049e84fac5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:58:05 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f91dda21ac6049e84fac5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have you powered down the DL4 first before setting the parameters? In other words: Power off the DL4 by unplugging the left/mono input, next plug in the EX-1. Plug the left/mono input back in. Heel back, set all knobs where you would want them, toe down the same, that's it. I just hooked mine up and this is how it works for me. I set it to looper powered it down as per above plugged in the EH-1 heel down set all the knobs to minimum (the mix knob only works with the looper in loop mode) push the EH-1 to toe down turn the mix knob all the way up (this gives me about 50/50 with the straight signal) start looping moving pedal up and down for mix of loop :) You can add in delay also but the pedal seems to also begin to control it... I actually hadn't done that for a long time, I really never used the looper, only the delays when I used this before getting the M9 hope that helps, I can make a movie if needed J On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay speed) I > finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression pedal - > it > has a mono plug, other than the other expression pedals, and I thought it > should do the trick. But I don't get it - there is a pattern in how this > pedal behaves, but I don't grasp it, and I can't find a good explanation > anywhere online. > > Could a kind soul please explain to me how to set the parameters when in > loop sampler mode? whatever I try, the pedal changes delay speed. How can I > set the mix, for example, without changing the delay speed or regen? what > do > I have to do, step by step? > > -Michael > > --bcaec53f91dda21ac6049e84fac5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you powered down the DL4 first before setting the parameters? In other= words:

Power off the DL4 by unplugging the left/mono input, next pl= ug in the EX-1. Plug the left/mono input back in.
Heel back, set all kn= obs where you would want them, toe down the same, that's it.

I just hooked mine up and this is how it works for me.

I set it = to looper
powered it down as per above
plugged in the EH-1 heel down<= br>set all the knobs to minimum (the mix knob only works with the looper in= loop mode)
push the EH-1 to toe down
turn the mix knob all the way up (this gives m= e about 50/50 with the straight signal)

start looping moving pedal u= p and down for mix of loop :) You can add in delay also but the pedal seems= to also begin to control it...

I actually hadn't done that for a long time, I really never used th= e looper, only the delays when I used this before getting the M9

hop= e that helps, I can make a movie if needed

J


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay speed) I finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression pedal - i= t
has a mono plug, other than the other expression pedals, and I thought it should do the trick. But I don't get it - there is a pattern in how thi= s
pedal behaves, but I don't grasp it, and I can't find a good explan= ation
anywhere online.

Could a kind soul please explain to me how to set the parameters when in loop sampler mode? whatever I try, the pedal changes delay speed. How can I=
set the mix, for example, without changing the delay speed or regen? what d= o
I have to do, step by step?

-Michael


--bcaec53f91dda21ac6049e84fac5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 12:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FDBA183462; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=e/jNQBkeaj4K45mAC4i6wbaTgYPJ6USEUtAk45WPcGY= c=1 sm=1 a=PkkVj2SBBeIA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:17 a=08Qpplwr3Cb6LHSdy4UA:9 a=vXftb-VuCpLTMXuWqy0Rudqh0vsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 a=5r4WfH5DhWOvYH0zPWoQZw==:117 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 05:59:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Line6 DL4 expression pedal From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Line6 DL4 expression pedal Thread-Index: Acvi9XlRkltb2oXOS8CR0ai902C4MwAG05r+ In-Reply-To: <15B76DB41ADF4B3E90808EB0533422EA@mpeserver> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-Pzd4D.A.vOC.iK2fNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:59:15 +0000 (UTC) My guess would be that you are adjusting the delay speed and regen in real time during your playing? If that's the case, then the expression pedal will 'remember' those adjustments, and the problem begins. I've always hated L6's expression pedal implementation. Yes, you can teach it to 'learn' what you want it to do, but you can never seem to tell it to stop learning. It will always remember whatever knob placement you play with, so as soon as you hook up the exp. Pedal, it's almost like you can't touch the pedal in real time anymore, you have to leave the knobs as they were after you did you initial setting. Is that the case? Did you JUST set up mix control, then started playing, but your song, or whatever, has alterations to delay speed and regen during it? If so, then that stupid pedal is going to 'learn' those adjustments... On 3/15/11 2:43 AM, "Michael Peters" wrote: > after trying the EV-5 without success (it only changed the delay speed) I > finally gave in and bought an EX-1, the official Line6 expression pedal - it > has a mono plug, other than the other expression pedals, and I thought it > should do the trick. But I don't get it - there is a pattern in how this > pedal behaves, but I don't grasp it, and I can't find a good explanation > anywhere online. > > Could a kind soul please explain to me how to set the parameters when in > loop sampler mode? whatever I try, the pedal changes delay speed. How can I > set the mix, for example, without changing the delay speed or regen? what do > I have to do, step by step? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 13:55:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CF16183453; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4D7F3FE6.3010502@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: Line6 DL4 expression pedal Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:55:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcvjEKpBy9tZGOKxQJqaZUq7R1MA/wAAqKLA In-Reply-To: <4D7F3FE6.3010502@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) > did you try following the manual *exactly*? ah, got it now - it is actually quite simple. The pedal always affects everything. Set it to heel position, set desired heel values for delay speed, regen, tweak and tweez; set it to toe position and set desired toe values. That simple, and it works - it takes just a bit getting used to. If i don't want it to affect delay speed, its setting for both positions should be equal. But once I turn a knob, that will be memorized by the pedal for its current position. No need to unplug anything while playing. -Michael "Power off your Stomp Box Modeler by unplugging the LEFT/MONO INPUT. Next, plug in your Expression Pedal, and set the expression pedal to the full heel-down position (as shown in the illustration at right). Plug the left/mono input back in (this turns the Stomp Box back on) and dial up a sound you like. Now press the expression pedal forward to the fully toe-down position, and set one or more of your knobs to another setting. Rock back and forth on your expression pedal, and you'll hear your sound blend between the two sound settings you just made. Store this sound into one of your pedal's memories, and both the toe-down and heeldown "snapshots" of the sound will be saved. Use as many and whichever knobs you like with the expression pedal, except the model selector. Recalling a stored memory later without the expression pedal connected gives you the heel-down setting only." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 18:10:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 458E318345A; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kK70CW+1RRWTg3nMrDQba7qLXj8K+8SKRGT6gPdx5zc=; b=w+DzXGzF0gqj+QPf4vkPmc/dizcWtPp620mTSXkzvvHw8wzGDltMorhls8jbFg1lLU 4/0L+0S/wbI5DuR9yVUZwQ6UFKNuh4MwjYf0J7RMRBU3+Zm811EBU4jhAaNcXv7t5eRX AswUIAnUeK1908w6qzmjAtFd8HJI/TS66KQcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FhvhP6yVKLvQe26UgpLYrFluhxfi2sDfMwqQX4B1zAchFMbU251/qGKLJ4z+S2kDXp A6sTp5+x++eiOJPnoP3xj1N00bPs3/xMMrkkdtKMhO/kxOlJXOYMJXg1G8rrUY/VXHgX HC+UDP5atcIJeSbY1cjUtq93MCGfimYwUwjOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:10:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd594ea7e70dc049e89591f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:10:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd594ea7e70dc049e89591f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purchased soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I understand it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. I really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack, so that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a FAQ somewhere I read that it is the near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracking on finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding that when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling new ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone here is selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). TIA --000e0cd594ea7e70dc049e89591f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purchased = soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I under= stand it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time= . I really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack,= so that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or=20 Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't = remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere = I read that it is the near perfect controller for looping with Mobius.
S= o, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get crac= king on finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep find= ing that when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is sellin= g new ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if a= nyone here is selling one (hopefully with the UnO firm= ware).
TIA
 --000e0cd594ea7e70dc049e89591f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 18:53:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E712B183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ttxYKZuXvIiBCO72eNuejvyWxvcvGmAVxfUbVj5Nang=; b=Uy+eKszqU4XhoRzgdzEsD7EWap9GGDYDl6wJvgW8L5f1UJvXmDrZ6FYCcDlNTOR0Be egNC1gIfaQbFIBrqWdPKAO4X7B0Qq509zG4Z/Te+QR9hi3C6QRXjrxF3oKJbcJdhlSUN 1CWx7rrrVPMICQG+Bkaudiw2qyJMuhmWQOde4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XOz5tZUZW2kh+06V8tpUPohQqwUNxKbEHbhojsd1zOTO+GqDqJ0geym4rRBAF1Cgrc ndNszvL+kFKiKoqmJqLGzrLNkJHT9UwM/nNbV3xUTLjrrWApPMfY9Tv1vGKsklaZDY+h 3XA7NXomZuw2vv82ExbztTyxz2mM4m07BrjPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:52:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4GgR_C.A.SQC.LW7fNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ed, I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, a Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smaller too. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purchase= d > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I underst= and > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. I > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack, s= o > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that it is t= he > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracking = on > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding th= at > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling new > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone here i= s > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). > TIA > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 19:03:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D13183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J+2IE/lfvL9T/SyVlo1Pv46eE+a2qVBNGwcbdDwYGRM=; b=MoxvNOlSpLx4UoChl1dOB5qr5YYMfZS0j4hGUl3AuxGl9qR4Mmh8L9xseTaPb4wjCS MRW1ulsUUuZB2yL6Oos2/H2E5azF/CN1FuTqW487fYfULufC8rP5grTnC79hmeppE+5u h7CgeDmJJuF7OqDw/h4UrhRvpqOaw8q4xjqIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rgCEXDr5feD/zF/A/s0Q9u3QjlYkfugqwP2f486F1FNi6MVpasybokq+kou/8fj7OS sSNyflbtrWis6Sgw+eYkY11zudyRQPFwPJRBQfiNAIumhoyxgoJWwUyfdkRPBb0F3NJk cT8UYcQT5xD0Mp3p1gNdK4y6AciRhWBghk7G4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:03:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Don't miss out on checking the Gordius Little Giant 2 as well! I recently got one of those after having used up three FCB1010's (they typically last exactly three years for me) and I wished I had gone with it a lot earlier, because it would have saved me some money. The LG is expensive to buy but cheap to own, compared with the Behringer(s). Another nasty issue I had with all my FCB's is that they now and then send out a random MIDI CC# value. I was using hardware gear that could not filter MIDI and my rack devices kept jumping off my preferred settings all the time. This kind of happened every third minute and was a pain in the ass when performing. Then I started using only software at the receiving end and was unlucky to find the best sound and functionality with software that was by design hardwired to some Roland General MIDI specification of the eighties - so the Behringer random MIDI surprise bug kept biting me. The Gordius pedal never leaks any MIDI I have not programmed it to send out on my command, so I'm a very happy musician these days :-) Oh, another reason I went with the Gordius is its small size and light weight... not beating the SoftStep here though, but to me the SoftStep has disqualified itself in many other areas. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purchase= d > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I underst= and > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. I > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack, s= o > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=C2=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that it i= s the > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracking = on > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding th= at > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling new > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone here i= s > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). > TIA > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 20:39:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7444218345A; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1300221538; bh=jIAsFZNNAY1X3inJJ5jW7EWpPF2Q189BWRM4CuCbvNQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Cs86hf80RC50PyWmanisaO4h9lgTNlVmvJOKXSg48vagBlAvAGYTRJHmchna0cGgZmZTgQLKGLlx+zzMjlTTmc51wRt5BW1Ac+MP753DN2C8kzOWbUjL5IyrTPCoH0dPHQ9Y3WrNpoLat1namchCzCKk1nH8icB6fFK4vXydsT4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 812859.1524.bm@smtp142.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: KB2vX6YVM1mjz5.HDu.TLpc0W45JzkOEeGjWT2I6.GS6bij h5uxwGlGqQIPqpG7EbZZJLxJ1Xu4cb1ERHpjMzs29Pn6jxErgN6NBtTus1B6 mebi9.eV9QZvfn18W5NJwj5UB0dZ6LAo8HJ8Ewl4irDc0nukRditzqeMTenX T4pcHGkbOj0frR.DjhPWS61k6K_jNcvDKEuDfFv71EEEsIC1suqQ.Vw7TDW0 aH61UWD_Sei_cbG935AGn38KagT474CFJGK6pAHJCuxjJgPuJaNY02DFgpWK 5Tw1JmTCm X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <84AC8AC39E064982AE54DD83BC233D9D@PC576340162804> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: OT: about midi looping, small rythm machine, generative music, DIY, ... Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:38:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01CBE359.62FA0CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:39:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CBE359.62FA0CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I found this yesterday: the minicommand: http://ruinwesen.com/products Seems a cool little device. You can rewrite completely the soft. Perhaps a solution for some "open questions" that appeared on the list = not so long ago. Ben ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CBE359.62FA0CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CBE359.62FA0CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 21:35:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30D23183460; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=itmU+OCXLPk4S0eaBUeDoCZI4t5h3cuVyw7xswK4QYc=; b=A2ZnNqHgcrYBaR9sNyOwcGWvUsjtpvhwQCQa9nwpbBL+eu+FttuLZOPZ9afQxS6fNe O7mF5v5IpKromoDRkBOfX5gq3tkIGi1ZLXXzh4dfl9jEaHxhPK8wcWbgoDZ3ZISK6ICL PJVvWOghBSFruPQjF2m4AM7PG4F5+7QfzcGdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a8igqDu+YKrMfsQB0qavCgFxPkMZILODka2NrwAgNwheujWwVRsXbEmcRSVw72Cqzc dm1GZcJVemY4RieYtgCSFN38V0LD4Mco7def5SPpDv5Up4iSxXbaMPrhPzXfscJiAe7p n7BC9uEwX8hrawas+3lDjgEOjYOf7Oshy3em8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:35:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd594ea4da574049e8c344b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd594ea4da574049e8c344b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's the one with two footswitches. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, a > Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression > controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two > expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the > Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smaller > too. > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be > purchased > > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I > understand > > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. I > > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack, > so > > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or > > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't > > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd > > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a FAQ somewhere I read that it is the > > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. > > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracking > on > > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding > that > > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling new > > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone here > is > > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). > > TIA > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --000e0cd594ea4da574049e8c344b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's t= he one with two footswitches.

On Tue, Mar= 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ed,

I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, a
Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression
controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two
expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the
Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smaller<= br> too.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purch= ased
> soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I = understand
> it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time.= I
> really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack= , so
> that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? o= r
> Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can&#= 39;t
> remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured = I'd
> buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that it i= s the
> near perfect controller for looping with Mobius.
> So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better ge= t cracking on
> finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding= that
> when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling ne= w
> ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if an= yone here is
> selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware).
> TIA
>



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon


--000e0cd594ea4da574049e8c344b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 15 21:38:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98D5418345F; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6jkFyS/w50tGt6SaaJgQchmnEduKqqxoZiuNgtcbJNQ=; b=sc9SzqryETEZQSD19ZOTeajIU2zapT6fkPh1gnoOC23MSxGUMfmrifQxtUH3K2Layg hSsLwB+RqKi8wm759VckfQrDEVEE7fgrq7FYykCmX9sEU7l57FuZA40LmrLMvRmCPDrH mJtyczBvEdOd2aq3nH9pl2fLjP8IgYbxuH7J8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rdvHE72WSyJScDNGX39Eec+0eRThYtz881ZQjPY5/HH/HF3z4NMN5KXCiIx8mWaNtI br8isqYrrXIacZob2IHcOChB8UqH6C45JyhmsX9xZCcmrvhU85Jnpzc+merCtPDLeFYL TJzN+oenfEIrWkgTAychHHVG8noWn436EABgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:38:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd47ab283ceb8049e8c400e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:38:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd47ab283ceb8049e8c400e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmm. It would be quite a financial commitment. i'll check it again, but it is more than I want to spend, for sure. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Don't miss out on checking the Gordius Little Giant 2 as well! I > recently got one of those after having used up three FCB1010's (they > typically last exactly three years for me) and I wished I had gone > with it a lot earlier, because it would have saved me some money. The > LG is expensive to buy but cheap to own, compared with the > Behringer(s). Another nasty issue I had with all my FCB's is that they > now and then send out a random MIDI CC# value. I was using hardware > gear that could not filter MIDI and my rack devices kept jumping off > my preferred settings all the time. This kind of happened every third > minute and was a pain in the ass when performing. Then I started using > only software at the receiving end and was unlucky to find the best > sound and functionality with software that was by design hardwired to > some Roland General MIDI specification of the eighties - so the > Behringer random MIDI surprise bug kept biting me. The Gordius pedal > never leaks any MIDI I have not programmed it to send out on my > command, so I'm a very happy musician these days :-) Oh, another > reason I went with the Gordius is its small size and light weight... > not beating the SoftStep here though, but to me the SoftStep has > disqualified itself in many other areas. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be > purchased > > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I > understand > > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. I > > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack, > so > > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? or > > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't > > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured I'd > > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a FAQ somewhere I read that it is the > > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. > > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracking > on > > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding > that > > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling new > > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone here > is > > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). > > TIA > > > > --000e0cd47ab283ceb8049e8c400e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm. It would be quite a financial commitment. i'll check it again, but= it is more than I want to spend, for sure.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:=
Don't miss ou= t on checking the Gordius Little Giant 2 as well! I
recently got one of those after having used up three FCB1010's (they typically last exactly three years for me) and I wished I had gone
with it a lot earlier, because it would have saved me some money. The
LG is expensive to buy but cheap to own, compared with the
Behringer(s). Another nasty issue I had with all my FCB's is that they<= br> now and then send out a random MIDI CC# value. I was using hardware
gear that could not filter MIDI and my rack devices kept jumping off
my preferred settings all the time. This kind of happened every third
minute and was a pain in the ass when performing. Then I started using
only software at the receiving end and was unlucky to find the best
sound and functionality with software that was by design hardwired to
some Roland General MIDI specification of the eighties - so the
Behringer random MIDI surprise bug kept biting me. The Gordius pedal
never leaks any MIDI I have not programmed it to send out on my
command, so I'm a very happy musician these days :-) =A0 Oh, another reason I went with the Gordius is its small size and light weight...
not beating the SoftStep here though, but to me the SoftStep has
disqualified itself in many other areas.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be purch= ased
> soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I = understand
> it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time.= I
> really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack= , so
> that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? o= r
> Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can&#= 39;t
> remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured = I'd
> buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that it i= s the
> near perfect controller for looping with Mobius.
> So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better ge= t cracking on
> finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding= that
> when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling ne= w
> ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if an= yone here is
> selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware).
> TIA
>


--000e0cd47ab283ceb8049e8c400e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 00:28:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87234183460; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sfF8mmj+TH6rZ7pv7BAcJvItMN6fPZ0tUps2HeI/tuo=; b=rl6q1f0f3zG4CcBDqWlXsrDV5zVe1+cub10HLJtLvkCBGpbg+7MYZQr2yC/oJ98fd2 fGQqC0q+vEOb5ZtCHBXnYKnu7VQNm5pY24l6I475cBc2MIEEX6ToZkQCEcsGTZXzGxaQ pj32KZF17fE2AV4NwdvI0edd6i9tuSURDajIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FHbivbtZSOVaQOVTXEs10jieVAe+qmOoqAk7vLFLDxOebekglrXKvKZJiuRgMgqaCv F3avXe+xxrQ3sBa+FvVpKgz8BwuOcn/owQlxyOrANAlS5Tb6EHCMu3f5eXz84bmjaAKw iXIETX23ii5vMgAdczwY72014wieShSNS+9DY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:28:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ed, The Stealth Pedal connects directly to your computer with USB and draws its power from that as well. I was a little surprised when I set up at Y2K9 to realize that I only needed one power outlet for my laptop, everything else got its power via USB, or ran as software. Life with VSTs and USB devices has sure changed things. Definitely simplifies your setup. Looks like the pedal itself runs for $200, not that much more than the FCB1= 010. It's a small, minimal but flexible setup if that appeals to you. Let me know if you get one, I'm happy to share what I've learned. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's the > one with two footswitches. > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, a >> Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression >> controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two >> expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the >> Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smaller >> too. >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: >> > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be >> > purchased >> > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I >> > understand >> > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time.= I >> > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back pack= , >> > so >> > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? o= r >> > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't >> > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured >> > I'd >> > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that it i= s >> > the >> > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. >> > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get cracki= ng >> > on >> > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding >> > that >> > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling ne= w >> > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone her= e >> > is >> > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). >> > TIA >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 02:00:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B5CE18345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1q0WVHe/x1ZiteJ6IBtTLmQgJJnowqEE7n4QEBSBLm8=; b=ST2yJRucEaqb3WjESnhdJ4NYff+0y6c4Axq3fNpt1rYd5Tlh6pA/pH1siCY1Okl7eU tsw0JOVpc5/RmW+tWWywN3TukrA6so4j5/D2iGg8DVooQZkY20S+HEcBCmWQWkiFjOJN ZexlwoKtxBhdFo3Yb4HP2ZanpMX6aWv3qsG/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mEgrk3Ct+ExkaQe9pcWaMU9zmyH9xtCgu2/mF65zziGBJD9r+XkgV0MtqCxmxZPJo3 jL9sXeGtX+NQLF/okXF+z79VhETa2uFnux182hBZNNj/wuvdIf9mRgvo7CJ0VAmlCCMg yMs4gfybMXLxIT8xSUPRKcRmWiC+vlaat7JTk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:00:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd594ea55676c049e8fe93b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:00:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd594ea55676c049e8fe93b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe I should clarify where I'm coming from. I'm very new to looping and I'm not sure how far I'll go with it. Most people here are on a completely different plane than me. I have a Boss RC-2 which I find, not only limiting, but confusing. That should indicate my mental capacity for these kinds of devices. I immediately went out and bought an FS-6 for it and that at least allowed me to step through loops, but having to bend down and save every loop in order to do that just doesn't seem conducive to live improvisitation and puts a damper on creativity. I need something simple that will work with Mobius. Mobius is going to take me a long time to master, I can see that but that is the direction I want to go in, i.e. computer software. The Stealth Pedal looks like you can only have a couple of footswitches with it. ? I suppose it would take some programming and dancing to get it to deal with Mobius in a way that I could have several loops in different keys and switch between them with one stomp. I thought the Behringer would be a good choice if I got a good price on a used one because I could always sell it again and not lose too much. I thought perhaps someone here might be moving up to the Stealth or Gordius and want to get rid of one. I've seen Boss and Yamaha boards in "Hard Off", a well known chain of recycle shops in Japan, but they aren't as cheap as a second hand 1010s over here. Thanks Art, PS. Do you have any videos showing what you do with your setup? On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Hi Ed, > > The Stealth Pedal connects directly to your computer with USB and > draws its power from that as well. I was a little surprised when I set > up at Y2K9 to realize that I only needed one power outlet for my > laptop, everything else got its power via USB, or ran as software. > Life with VSTs and USB devices has sure changed things. Definitely > simplifies your setup. > > Looks like the pedal itself runs for $200, not that much more than the > FCB1010. > > It's a small, minimal but flexible setup if that appeals to you. Let > me know if you get one, I'm happy to share what I've learned. > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > > This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's the > > one with two footswitches. > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> > >> Hi Ed, > >> > >> I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, a > >> Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression > >> controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two > >> expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the > >> Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smaller > >> too. > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow > wrote: > >> > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be > >> > purchased > >> > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I > >> > understand > >> > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime time. > I > >> > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back > pack, > >> > so > >> > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss? > or > >> > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I can't > >> > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figured > >> > I'd > >> > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a FAQ somewhere I read that it is > >> > the > >> > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. > >> > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get > cracking > >> > on > >> > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep finding > >> > that > >> > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling > new > >> > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone > here > >> > is > >> > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). > >> > TIA > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Art Simon > >> simart@gmail.com > >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --000e0cd594ea55676c049e8fe93b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe I should clarify where I'm coming from. I'm very new to loopi= ng and I'm not sure how far I'll go with it. Most people here are o= n a completely different plane than me. I have a Boss RC-2 which I find, no= t only limiting, but confusing. That should indicate my mental capacity for= these kinds of devices. I immediately went out and bought an FS-6 for it a= nd that at least allowed me to step through loops, but having to bend down = and save every loop in order to do that just doesn't seem conducive to = live improvisitation and puts a damper on creativity. I need something simp= le that will work with Mobius. Mobius is going to take me a long time to ma= ster, I can see that but that is the direction I want to go in, i.e. comput= er software.

The Stealth Pedal looks like you can only have a couple of footswitches= with it. ? I suppose it would take some programming and dancing to get it = to deal with Mobius in a way that I could have several loops in different k= eys and switch between them with one stomp.

I thought the Behringer would be a good choice if I got a good price on= a used one because I could always sell it again and not lose too much. I t= hought perhaps someone here might be moving up to the Stealth or Gordius an= d want to get rid of one. I've seen Boss and Yamaha boards in "Har= d Off", a well known chain of recycle shops in Japan, but they aren= 9;t as cheap as a second hand 1010s over here.
Thanks Art,

PS. Do you have any videos showing what you do with your= setup?


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:28 = PM, Art Simon <sim= art@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ed,

The Stealth Pedal connects directly to your computer with USB and
draws its power from that as well. I was a little surprised when I set
up at Y2K9 to realize that I only needed one power outlet for my
laptop, everything else got its power via USB, or ran as software.
Life with VSTs and USB devices has sure changed things. Definitely
simplifies your setup.

Looks like the pedal itself runs for $200, not that much more than the FCB1= 010.

It's a small, minimal but flexible setup if that appeals to you. Let me know if you get one, I'm happy to share what I've learned.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
> This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that= 9;s the
> one with two footswitches.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPeda= l, a
>> Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression
>> controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two=
>> expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than th= e
>> Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much= smaller
>> too.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to= be
>> > purchased
>> > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftSt= ep. As I
>> > understand
>> > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for pr= ime time. I
>> > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a = back pack,
>> > so
>> > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here = a Boss? or
>> > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, bu= t I can't
>> > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I= figured
>> > I'd
>> > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read = that it is
>> > the
>> > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius.
>> > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd = better get cracking
>> > on
>> > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I kee= p finding
>> > that
>> > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is s= elling new
>> > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd = ask if anyone here
>> > is
>> > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware).
>> > TIA
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Simon
>> simart@gmail.com
>> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>>
>
>



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon


--000e0cd594ea55676c049e8fe93b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 02:19:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6830218345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CHdHchN29bRD3dDLIccbp68J2s9H4eQp7tqT6sZikL8=; b=mHFvsoxcT09bjIxiXIqz/df60FV4AjHsLV9CNEEafgmL8wussRTyNEXZ2I4/8Pitz7 NUm1SFEZjZN5zi3JudU8Hv2vuBt05VTy9PoZA7Ov5WKJXEgQ8vSRAE6ZXKTBmdVWgZEU h3+f2UPP7JWp4feJgKci70qDizdpbCvMEC62Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YaunNa2enbO16HbuUyHqy0xLIgOzgDVbS8FGABYmLxu53ctjFZQMrdCeedJeXGuAV9 tUiUI9mv7rlJbJ9xN3Q9LLlMYzPTnHmgrkG7D3dXluM4eI0obI0l8f3gWd+aHpjstKx9 ohUWS1PkSkEI787nxjOyB5fzVHed+n86A8bs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:19:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-gVkiB.A._OE.54BgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:19:37 +0000 (UTC) I've used both the Behringer FCB1010 and the Stealth Pedal with Mobius. I found the Stealth pedal easier to set up, but neither is that easy. You'll have to match the numbers from the pedal controller to Mobius. I found configuring the controller numbers straightforward in both Mobius and the Stealth Pedal, but it took some head scratching to get the FCB1010 set up. Mobius isn't as easy as something like Ableton Live where you press the midi learn button, press the effect you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you are using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host that has midi learn. There's going to be a learning curve, but that's what this mailing list is for! Regardless of what you choose, you'll figure it out and make it work. The Stealth Pedal is limited to two switches, so if you want more it's not a good choice. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > Maybe I should clarify where I'm coming from. I'm very new to looping and > I'm not sure how far I'll go with it. Most people here are on a completel= y > different plane than me. I have a Boss RC-2 which I find, not only limiti= ng, > but confusing. That should indicate my mental capacity for these kinds of > devices. I immediately went out and bought an FS-6 for it and that at lea= st > allowed me to step through loops, but having to bend down and save every > loop in order to do that just doesn't seem conducive to live improvisitat= ion > and puts a damper on creativity. I need something simple that will work w= ith > Mobius. Mobius is going to take me a long time to master, I can see that = but > that is the direction I want to go in, i.e. computer software. > > The Stealth Pedal looks like you can only have a couple of footswitches w= ith > it. ? I suppose it would take some programming and dancing to get it to d= eal > with Mobius in a way that I could have several loops in different keys an= d > switch between them with one stomp. > > I thought the Behringer would be a good choice if I got a good price on a > used one because I could always sell it again and not lose too much. I > thought perhaps someone here might be moving up to the Stealth or Gordius > and want to get rid of one. I've seen Boss and Yamaha boards in "Hard Off= ", > a well known chain of recycle shops in Japan, but they aren't as cheap as= a > second hand 1010s over here. > Thanks Art, > > PS. Do you have any videos showing what you do with your setup? > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> The Stealth Pedal connects directly to your computer with USB and >> draws its power from that as well. I was a little surprised when I set >> up at Y2K9 to realize that I only needed one power outlet for my >> laptop, everything else got its power via USB, or ran as software. >> Life with VSTs and USB devices has sure changed things. Definitely >> simplifies your setup. >> >> Looks like the pedal itself runs for $200, not that much more than the >> FCB1010. >> >> It's a small, minimal but flexible setup if that appeals to you. Let >> me know if you get one, I'm happy to share what I've learned. >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: >> > This connects to your computer? I have the Boss FS-6, I think, that's >> > the >> > one with two footswitches. >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> >> >> I replaced my Behringer FCB1010 with the IK Multimedia StealthPedal, = a >> >> Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio Universal expression >> >> controller pedal. The whole setup cost about $285 and gives me two >> >> expression pedals and two switches. It's a lot simpler than the >> >> Behringer and doesn't require a midi intereface. Packs up much smalle= r >> >> too. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ed Durbrow >> >> wrote: >> >> > I want a pedal board to work with Mobius and a laptop Mac (to be >> >> > purchased >> >> > soon). I haven't heard anything recently about the SoftStep. As I >> >> > understand >> >> > it, the consensus was that SoftStep is still not ready for prime >> >> > time. I >> >> > really wanted something small like that, that would fit in a back >> >> > pack, >> >> > so >> >> > that I could go by subway to a venue. Someone mentioned here a Boss= ? >> >> > or >> >> > Roland? or Yamaha? pedal that is newer than the Behringer, but I >> >> > can't >> >> > remember which model or whether it fit as well with Mobius. I figur= ed >> >> > I'd >> >> > buy a Behringer FCB1010 because in a=A0 FAQ somewhere I read that i= t is >> >> > the >> >> > near perfect controller for looping with Mobius. >> >> > So, as I'm heading back to Japan in three weeks, I'd better get >> >> > cracking >> >> > on >> >> > finding something. In my Google searches for used ones, I keep >> >> > finding >> >> > that >> >> > when I click on a cheap price it takes me to a site that is selling >> >> > new >> >> > ones. Of course I'm checking Ebay, but I thought I'd ask if anyone >> >> > here >> >> > is >> >> > selling one (hopefully with the UnO firmware). >> >> > TIA >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Art Simon >> >> simart@gmail.com >> >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 02:32:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37E7418345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9A20137E-E5D7-4DEA-8031-C3D05040A4D7@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:32:29 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello Ed, I actually have an FCB1010 that I've been thinking about moving. I believe it's about 7 years old. I haven't used it for several years, but it is still in good shape. I still have the original box for it. I may have missed this, but what are you looking to spend? I'd rather it go to a good home as long as it's a fair price. I don't see myself using it in the time to come. I used mine with an EDP. I do remember a learning curve setting it up, but as I recall there is a user's group online. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 02:35:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC70118344B; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z3zegPUyYUX1wowy3Fj74uyjg5BIupFRw5VhqvAMUJI=; b=bhUvZSqq/WHe+0/1Rmvkg8tORm8hRdJF0gfWoWGrzeS//TI5nJYhX46ydwcu/1blB8 WMHn7xI0jkmbvV2KS3VpbHPGGWDaBhiYTBe7ji+/tuhCG97m0GRvoqEo22J+9KugBn6c Nit205OvFwLQZMJhFoVMiCqooyBC6qNlpfvk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bMmdf8m91GynjPZao3c/KLIMF95v6cD6jnVbkJO5DXSIG1xr8RgTrDBwgj8snche0m 0nKzdGfcSEYxzdiXw2Jaucn5ETbw3W/5y2iBxQWDE0YumGC9EIHuYG0ZyOsQmR4qzE3C 1qx3N8hCC6CBbDqUplP5YHqKPCnPXGWE4CS9g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:35:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdcfe78bf8d049e9064e4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:35:05 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdcfe78bf8d049e9064e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I know Mobius is going to be an uphill learn. It looks like it can do everything though. I've been learning Logic for the last year and a half after 25 years of Digital Performer. Very hard to learn new ways of doing things, but a very cool tool. Ableton looks very capable too, but I'm overloaded on things to study. I originally thought compact was a good idea when I got the RC-2, but I think more switches, each set up for its own thing, would be easier for me. Thanks, On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Art Simon wrote: > I've used both the Behringer FCB1010 and the Stealth Pedal with > Mobius. I found the Stealth pedal easier to set up, but neither is > that easy. You'll have to match the numbers from the pedal controller > to Mobius. I found configuring the controller numbers straightforward > in both Mobius and the Stealth Pedal, but it took some head scratching > to get the FCB1010 set up. Mobius isn't as easy as something like > Ableton Live where you press the midi learn button, press the effect > you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you are > using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host that has midi > learn. > > There's going to be a learning curve, but that's what this mailing > list is for! Regardless of what you choose, you'll figure it out and > make it work. > > The Stealth Pedal is limited to two switches, so if you want more it's > not a good choice. --0015174bdcfe78bf8d049e9064e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I know Mobius is going to be an uphill learn. It looks like it can do = everything though. I've been learning Logic for the last year and a hal= f after 25 years of Digital Performer. Very hard to learn new ways of doing= things, but a very cool tool. Ableton looks very capable too, but I'm = overloaded on things to study.

I originally thought compact was a good idea when I got the RC-2, but I= think more switches, each set up for its own thing, would be easier for me= .

Thanks,

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at = 7:19 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I've used bot= h the Behringer FCB1010 and the Stealth Pedal with
Mobius. I found the Stealth pedal easier to set up, but neither is
that easy. You'll have to match the numbers from the pedal controller to Mobius. I found configuring the controller numbers straightforward
in both Mobius and the Stealth Pedal, but it took some head scratching
to get the FCB1010 set up. Mobius isn't as easy as something like
Ableton Live where you press the midi learn button, press the effect
you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you are
using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host that has midi
learn.

There's going to be a learning curve, but that's what this mailing<= br> list is for! Regardless of what you choose, you'll figure it out and make it work.

The Stealth Pedal is limited to two switches, so if you want more it's<= br> not a good choice.

--0015174bdcfe78bf8d049e9064e4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 04:47:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3317718345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TRLqKuelVq5KaUOYTcQNdk5qygl3h1/oEu0lbPzoq3o=; b=ULErU0+E7hEo9CeHo6lx7lIYYOLyYW5CoFiOQZHv4FSfWZXAUnLUb3Uz0uXcJ2lPH5 Ppt3XwZzXoS9+z8FSjlNZUv2f9h6baP4RQT1OSHZ6W2LZAnVzyKkQmzDBcavGzUNRIbf DBynj8Nhbohq7L3dI0P49fQshmX723H2etmR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y9YuJ2YafhbthCKvC2kSfMdfex58I16ARwlLQuDQAvlJm9kLbv6LFTJz+hr+aQiAi7 jQqno3C6ik3VGrtOTiUC4d46jaDaB0y2pjwTE4NPJLTnQ8ZkInJ8/S9qyXdX0O/oXthc GULSbi30w1HDVWXAeww3BqiBJrBDmuRTzHiN0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Art Simon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0b98624701049e923df9 Resent-Message-ID: <_rsDf.A.5NH.cDEgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:47:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0b98624701049e923df9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Mobius isn't as easy as something like > Ableton Live where you press the midi learn button, press the effect > you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you are > using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host that has midi > learn. Huh? Mobius has always had "MIDI learn". Oh, maybe it's slightly more complicated than Ableton because you have to pick what you want to control from a list of names rather than click on things in the UI. In part this is because you can control a lot of things that aren't always visible in the UI. Once you've selected your "target" then just wiggle the MIDI pedal and it will assign it. Most FCB users program it to send notes from 0 to 99, set the pedals to two random CC numbers, and never touch it again. Then use MIDI learn within Mobius to assign those to different things. Going back to the original question...I wouldn't completely rule out the SoftStep. It is too small and twitchy for my taste, but the software seems to be adequate now. If size and weight are important and you're willing to spend some time learning how to to use it accurately, then it's worth considering. I think they still have a 30 day return policy. Jeff --0015174c0b98624701049e923df9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
= > Mobius isn't as easy as something like
> Ableton Live= where you press the midi learn button, press the effect
> you want to control and wiggle the peddle. That is, unless you ar= e
> using Mobius as a VST in Ableton live or some other host t= hat has midi
> learn.

Huh? Mobius has= always had "MIDI learn". =A0Oh, maybe it's slightly more
complicated than Ableton because you have to pick what you want to
control from a list of names rather than click on things in the UI.<= /div>
In part this is because you can control a lot of things that aren= 't
always visible in the UI. =A0Once you've selected your "targe= t" then
just wiggle the MIDI pedal and it will assign it.

Most FCB users program it to send notes from 0 to 99= , set the pedals
to two random CC numbers, and never touch it again. =A0 Then use MIDI<= /div>
learn within Mobius to assign those to different things. =A0

Going back to the original question...I wouldn't c= ompletely rule out
the SoftStep. =A0It is too small and twitchy for my taste, but the
software seems to be adequate now. =A0If size and weight are importa= nt
and you're willing to spend some time learning how to to u= se it
accurately, then it's worth considering. =A0I think they still hav= e
a 30 day return policy.

Jeff

--0015174c0b98624701049e923df9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 09:16:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A068518345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 590413877/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.108/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlACADccgE1YbRFs/2dsb2JhbAAMmQPPCoViBJAf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,193,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="590413877" Message-ID: <4D807FDB.7070902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:16:11 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow wrote: > I thought the Behringer would be a good choice if I got a good price on > a used one Yes, but be careful how much use it's had. The Uno chip is a good idea. Excellent feature set for starting with Mobius. > Stealth or somewhat unknown here, not latency tested and don't know if anyone here tried it with Mobius. > Gordius not entry level due to cost, but it's the best. > I've seen Boss and the different models have varying suitability. ..no latency test >Yamaha boards in totally avoid, 70mS latency ...no good at all for looping > andy butler (just sold an fcb, ...Gordius user) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 09:23:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73CD918345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xa3/bxH6QDzE1KRAlabH7udurVywqJ6dq3sTLmGx4wg=; b=GtM1rKVK8BxPcHrkC9htDPmapQuG48yqSl0Gs5zju6xADxztA+EX26M4Csvu4gxcij lAztTBZ5IT7VsZH5t0h4pldC10R8OQpYz6P28tPr9tUJ4lHNTyszRjk23gZaWsNTQI44 B2Ii8XiWTjBecG+ZPA8/DYpKfnGuMVqIB9VDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=HIwlBy+Dd24TTfc93zx7L1+FzGkGkeJhAc7pdl5GCyUFJUCb1FMURaHvm4ULEvasM0 dIkJOuNx1NQLLlbleAB8HjlY2BmILREaqYMBiNJHNeqSK4NUmneZAO9lFV3oFSuJ6oza zCn/Va+9aCzLQakeU8EkU9zjFWHa2CjLNcKvk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <84AC8AC39E064982AE54DD83BC233D9D@PC576340162804> References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <84AC8AC39E064982AE54DD83BC233D9D@PC576340162804> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:23:54 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: about midi looping, small rythm machine, generative music, DIY, ... From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48a208d8076049e961a59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:23:55 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48a208d8076049e961a59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that's very neat On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > Hi, > > I found this yesterday: > > the minicommand: > http://ruinwesen.com/products > > Seems a cool little device. You can rewrite completely the soft. > Perhaps a solution for some "open questions" that appeared on the list not > so long ago. > > > Ben > > --000e0cd48a208d8076049e961a59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's very neat

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011= at 8:38 PM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hi,
=A0
I found this yesterday:
=A0
the minicommand:
=A0
Seems a cool little device. You can re= write=20 completely the soft.
Perhaps a solution for some "open= questions" that=20 appeared on the list not so long ago.
=A0
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--000e0cd48a208d8076049e961a59-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 12:47:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01FE18345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gU3Ta5Cfbg95DZfEs/ylwOM9AsrcRCzefi5TE0Qvymw=; b=mtN/ovg5OUFG3f71B0Yfr2kvfdRXP/SiIiY6D5LwsIiwfXMh042kqdzZkebo7ZctC3 KwTXHv85gMQ7nbOnftKwTzucA1K/vS2MjcRqcTy9UiD2E60YmPNB5Qd0SvAWR3/6o4Mw e2HsGBDoi1/KN2ZM8HysiUBJMeZLWIEXePUaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OMNy7nhLn9B8XRfckbLMvy7S8l38ZkdnnkqXSq0Df6nkSX01RcnZysGlbkxRJCZqJY 286j7T/hUOVXHZmgM3CSzIaInnoUUPwbJ+sZK7zdk00XQAQCc+A8MBv6urTIdIkQZGEV FpdTrkoRkg0FVv71VL0+Y/ct8ARAg/I4EFFLY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:47:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5uQMRB.A.H5.YFLgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Oops, sorry Jeff. My mistake. It's been a while since I worked with Mobius. Thanks for setting me straight. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > Huh? Mobius has always had "MIDI learn". =A0Oh, maybe it's slightly more > complicated than Ableton because you have to pick what you want to > control from a list of names rather than click on things in the UI. > In part this is because you can control a lot of things that aren't > always visible in the UI. =A0Once you've selected your "target" then > just wiggle the MIDI pedal and it will assign it. > Most FCB users program it to send notes from 0 to 99, set the pedals > to two random CC numbers, and never touch it again. =A0 Then use MIDI > learn within Mobius to assign those to different things. > Going back to the original question...I wouldn't completely rule out > the SoftStep. =A0It is too small and twitchy for my taste, but the > software seems to be adequate now. =A0If size and weight are important > and you're willing to spend some time learning how to to use it > accurately, then it's worth considering. =A0I think they still have > a 30 day return policy. > Jeff > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 14:36:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52075183459; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 499 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:36:46 UTC Message-ID: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: Subject: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:28:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:36:46 +0000 (UTC) I'm using the new VoiceLive Touch and just realized that it has midi control capability. My challenge is that I want to use a floor pedal controller, but I need it to be SMALL. I used to have to drive a golf cart from one end of my setup to another, and I really am intent on cutting down. I use a Boomerang III on the floor, and I'd just like to have a small midi pedal with it, enabling me to control no more than 5 or 6 functions. Does any such animal exist? Thanks, Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 14:40:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B2918345F; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cT8ruobmnx3jMl0A3NJAFf2Tn9txLB6/1K4Ph7vcEog=; b=mgZlAlLc4zS8xce8KU2xeHTtchoMbylbVapEQ6kBO2J6BT7MeCrudeVqtSTVG2mPYP FQz+wV6tpBGq2DFyYkbppGvyF3sH4n491FSZnoROZb8zZSYaJMwxRAUKUIyTtiCWTaTM 8unZo7RQI5z9yO+kk768shuyhKnGr2a/3sz68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=rw7VHvJprPTqKFbCTk1kmhQrI0H69jR0s4e5MHmpAod8op7r3Nqs2k59FyJQKBIlSW 1Enc/S3sBTnyon5YZjgioX04BLS3Zua5frlLiZ6snTvDvcB8XngMUj+OJjJO75DxQwAY OYsPKT+WZWaKkxH2V1ik5jACYbFARdX/kq8+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6E3595.5020003@cruzio.com> <620254.31353.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <189223.73182.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <84AC8AC39E064982AE54DD83BC233D9D@PC576340162804> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:38:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JCSKNA13R-CzRDE16cEdIr66LWM Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: about midi looping, small rythm machine, generative music, DIY, ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8bf4692f2e049e9a869b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:40:25 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8bf4692f2e049e9a869b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I rather like the look of this too... Hmmm can it be switched to be the front end of a variety of uses... A Fireworx control? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > that's very neat > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Ruelle Benoit wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I found this yesterday: >> >> the minicommand: >> http://ruinwesen.com/products >> >> Seems a cool little device. You can rewrite completely the soft. >> Perhaps a solution for some "open questions" that appeared on the list not >> so long ago. >> >> >> Ben >> >> > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8bf4692f2e049e9a869b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I rather like the look of this too... Hmmm can it be switched to be the fro= nt end of a variety of uses... A Fireworx control?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@google= mail.com> wrote:
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--90e6ba6e8bf4692f2e049e9a869b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 15:08:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBD318344B; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkHAHVvgE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACZFIx5iTwBuHKFYwSFL4p8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,194,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="109740158" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:11:50 -0500 References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Is the Liquid Foot Jr. small enough for you? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 15:31:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36CD818345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Brian Carabee" To: References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:30:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) My eyes and my feet say it's absolutely perfect, but my wallet protests. Looks like an awesome unit, just the right size. If I can't find something less expensive, that will be a good candidate. Thanks! Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Shirkey" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? > Is the Liquid Foot Jr. small enough for you? > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 15:45:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6107518345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkHAJ53gE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACZFYx5whqFYwSFL4p8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,194,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="59144301" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:48:47 -0500 References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <99RrG.A.caE.KsNgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:45:14 +0000 (UTC) > My eyes and my feet say it's absolutely perfect, but my wallet > protests. I know, man...not cheap. :( They come up for sale used, though. Maybe check out Huge Racks (an online forum, if you're not familiar with it). You could even post an ad there. I saved $50-100 on mine, I think. > > Looks like an awesome unit, just the right size. > There's not much it can't do (at least for my purposes it's fantastic)...but double check its capabilities. I know a lot of folks here want to have MIDI control of things I probably would never dream of. Anyway, good luck in your quest! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:11:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01EA618345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EUF4hq7FHgImq7tVDCzRChDRs/PajyAq5onju2B0sFs=; b=n09ah4Wo9IhXRC2j0nhMb2PucmqZbfLDU4ekbfGlddBkNs1I9p05FAZ3hlHJ6DNe4J QDteKz+5fyai9VpfNjytOfmob2yfn6uULZUJ+6f/UPafFEcgnF291r5Bwb+gVP7nrGym Xs0VQZBeC9kVZM897MAoppEg1F1SY0kyAZVcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mBhXTJIf+QhGjO/noUhRXqL7/IzAvEixhpSP2HSh81p2+nJGhkcWkd25DjcOLG1wRe n6amWoDzPIxjmI/fDzGgXAzPJsU9bnqZ/YOlWPzYUl3cekB2mdFtu23JC2Eo9b9t3fHm 79DA9ZQC4+v9Sg5yzDzVg/FplEjrK5V/FFK2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:11:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:11:33 +0000 (UTC) > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> Most FCB users program it to send notes from 0 to 99 Not me! I used to set up my FCBs as 1-10 in bank one, 11-20 in bank two etc etc. That way the MIDI note numbers will always correspond to the numbers on the physical pedals. With that system MIDI learn in Mobius is just a breeze. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:34:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72BEA18345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=sJ8aVEbCm2hwhF/6DXgQTGFMXRs74O3lnUp/KcMlOmUYvNQpCAQiXJ213uXV3rHHNsp8goL1V2cIDzj+e+repSKmC3P6eEXnFywGC9eSevu5KTI3sHYjtC4ipGGjpfxxpDyPvdyY9iAObrxU5+uYEvuJeJ6E1qsJ7y9+O+iJfzs= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300293251; bh=+vcqvpzXTP3ompVpz+CD0LsnZVXA0QuwNYUruCK7ATc=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=AQOo/JNvnfG0Vm90qbP79R6YtHCMpAKxD/14Ty0pqpgmn8L4rL8u4eajxIPAFDyeDCrULpqulAH3GoGeELQrUE7tUzxL5+CkEDTotTPzhGYCUVuBD7bK8Mt3+6OZWEfyim05EKJ0Rb9YKMIwUb+0nA3PVSAzHNv+4lGXe94603g= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: 3upno9UVM1nnMrx0rePZqdFeq8wi5fD_34etAFHDF5rMlRk SHVmsvD.rT_At15FG0_iFoRocWRiNXdZKJ6rAWdlqFmYdkNEUWICEtDokepD n37wL8zTZqRHtLXqUuxrEwN3RDFrP73B3_72.NpXn4M5lYLCG36kkxjCzOwp LvsLus270b1uwugvCqJT9X9UNLeHRhhlw4Uh_xL2idSNDddfZeEG9FG1iJDu Er9_U1waMXHk9ZmsE6C3Jji2crA2dpdFPyRNdIw9YErETAYY3i5tnUltODiw SZVvns0RjPY.6SE9UhBg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_9200265_AH9TimIAAM/lTYDbFAnuVzYPPtM Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:27:48 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Does the liquid foot work properly. Are the switches smooth an silent?=20 Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-16, at 16:48, Jeff Shirkey wrote: >=20 >> My eyes and my feet say it's absolutely perfect, but my wallet protests. >=20 > I know, man...not cheap. :( They come up for sale used, though. Maybe chec= k out Huge Racks (an online forum, if you're not familiar with it). You coul= d even post an ad there. I saved $50-100 on mine, I think. >=20 >>=20 >> Looks like an awesome unit, just the right size. >>=20 > There's not much it can't do (at least for my purposes it's fantastic)...b= ut double check its capabilities. I know a lot of folks here want to have MI= DI control of things I probably would never dream of. >=20 > Anyway, good luck in your quest! >=20 > Jeff >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:42:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61D5618345F; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> Message-ID: thread-topic: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? thread-index: Acvj+RK8kTzrS7IqSbixVQuDU+WSaA== Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:41:53 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2011 16:42:35.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[276ABEA0:01CBE3F9] Resent-Message-ID: <9MgysB.A.DBG.9hOgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Small midi pedal, I like midibuddy. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7766718345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BayU6Xbzu2jVaGXMEM3A0LS5/sK8HbyW4sBbxtH5+yg=; b=AzA762gLQsnr0WyrXF2AvfSksteoUNMLLehFKSAM0ifMeFCneO5IvmWHfyXIocfAOe 5e6H0TjUSeTCcnJmOYOhZ69kvO7jAy37J65vDB50qSKqg2KQkvahls8KlFQAtSHc7zVI jzTmj4p0g1n7NvAOmpudohdirmZUD0pOx8ThI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E/zRwio66vObptgmfcNF3Tw6Do9M+8Dt+z82Rzm29KEz58b/zWroJY7n0aMYTEqZi2 OyQ3meLCharOLo6va+FJtD3hnn3Mkr1pQxGBTb9NoDdGhM/QCcfvGsOEvsJAFIlv1xs6 B+Xn7vGjOi1TxFS0VEMeUC5RLtR6uCRNmErFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:43:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3x8TR.A.8GG.ejOgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:44:14 +0000 (UTC) As Rick pointed out some time ago, the Line 6 M9 can double as a smallish midi controller (though the switches are anything but silent). 7 buttons, loads of fantastic effects and about $350 new (oh yeah, and a decently robust looper). Kevin On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Antony Hequet wro= te: > Does the liquid foot work properly. Are the switches smooth an silent? > Antony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2011-03-16, at 16:48, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > >> >>> My eyes and my feet say it's absolutely perfect, but my wallet protests= . >> >> I know, man...not cheap. :( They come up for sale used, though. Maybe ch= eck out Huge Racks (an online forum, if you're not familiar with it). You c= ould even post an ad there. I saved $50-100 on mine, I think. >> >>> >>> Looks like an awesome unit, just the right size. >>> >> There's not much it can't do (at least for my purposes it's fantastic)..= .but double check its capabilities. I know a lot of folks here want to have= MIDI control of things I probably would never dream of. >> >> Anyway, good luck in your quest! >> >> Jeff >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:47:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E2EE18344B; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=liLw93VcDyCn5y4HLy1WcSimP5XQi8siMzvKOoAVZ+w=; b=iGGwCDxjIHFlUZDeXqPvfoe50nlmEuaq0c9+dFqgQ6M59m3rEYio2Fc2q7XewCDlq8 dxI71NFnTMlxbt/NnJvFllCjoiQabw6GFqvtjPEozjOn5rdH+poocg0U6Vx2SuKFL9h8 q/dveO0sevJhYUAqNd6zaFE+fBCnyo1+at0mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vy+Gvf7uIBIMvSENT51MWwPihn3IuCtiuT5zddYggJMnsH2bP8SAMZ/dhZ4kI6iVM8 9O3TjLjI5G4x+q5dVv+OQueHPt5gXA2z2Utp5ehFTAhsC4NzVhbtQgPKeoBiE60kcfgp AEn2CcG4IKu4G9q2o6JeVdsckm6CgtikyXOdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:47:21 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7098c724010049e9c4cbb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:47:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7098c724010049e9c4cbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 here - http://vimeo.com/21108230 or just listen and download for free here if it's all too much - http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/album/antwerp-2011 video and audio from my set at Antwerp this year. didn't go as well as i'd hoped and had some gremlins creep into my laptop and muck about with the gubbins, so most of the first piece is missing. learned a lot from the experience though and it was great to meet the other artists and audience members from the list who made it. sim --000e0cd7098c724010049e9c4cbb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here - http://vimeo.com/21108230<= br>
or just listen and download for free here if it's all too much -= http://sim= eonharris.bandcamp.com/album/antwerp-2011



video and audio from my set at Antwerp this year. didn't go= as well as i'd hoped and had some gremlins creep into my laptop and mu= ck about with the gubbins, so most of the first piece is missing.

learned a lot from the experience though and it was great to meet the other= artists and audience members from the list who made it.

sim
--000e0cd7098c724010049e9c4cbb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 16:54:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D10818344B; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkHAAeIgE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACZFYx6whyFYwSFL4p8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,195,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="59193228" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:58:11 -0500 References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Does the liquid foot work properly. Are the switches smooth an silent? They work great for my purposes. I never hear any pops when switching, and they are definitely high quality switches. I couldn't be happier with my pedalboard, and the Liquid Foot Jr. is the brain that controls it all. Pics of my board are here: http://www.trailertrashpedalboards.com/proseries_scroll.htm Scroll down to Pro Series, 36" and 40" boards. Mine is the first one (in red) that says "40" Red w/ATA case. Wired by Trailer Trash). Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 20:23:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9801E18345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Uc3lWUdhsGi44QyNjR2O/TwHrreQLTCxvh1/Z/X5hv0=; b=UyCquy1YMOH9y6az3eeZZuGVuyB8wl8bY+879s7PN3Y+r39p3FFN0bOKcihddzbxFa 7WXPXP9SUs+gebCcPoHnOb9x+irdUL1ZLbaUxF/ZJBGp8Wv5CREXSuA8lTORSEFMeZc7 IFzSyM7wiRV08Tkb/YfvrV3OwcQ65ItoXYzpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Co53Yt+QOI4dtbBSQX2JzG8SR6PTg4eTuUqDm6SHRQdpoDGv91Ws+WAdALEfpuOdBI vxuhQU5VYVxZSjhcYGYhh1O66ALzZxpabII+Bqf2+COSRaUC+uvTB6lfT+10hEu8ZmvC pXw38LnSPk8wRR0WCtlVwy4iPeWyrSitJjIJQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D807FDB.7070902@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D807FDB.7070902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:23:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd594ea0d7996049e9f537a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd594ea0d7996049e9f537a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:16 AM, andy butler wrote: > Gordius > > not entry level due to cost, > but it's the best. Doesn't the Godius require a PC to edit? I'm on Mac. > Yamaha boards in > > totally avoid, 70mS latency > ...no good at all for looping > That is very useful information. One last question: The Behringer requires a midi interface to interact with Mobius, does it not? I just thought of this. This is pushing me towards the Stealth. I envision being able to put a MacBook, pedalboard, and a few effects into my back pack and carry my guitar and lute to a gig, riding trains. I have a couple of rackmount midi interfaces (motu 828 and FirePod) but that would add extra weight and take up precious space in my baggage. Of course I could buy yet another midi interface in the form of a small USB one, but that seems like a waste and a step backwards. --000e0cd594ea0d7996049e9f537a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:16 AM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Gordius

not entry level due to cost,
but it's the best.

Doesn't the Godius require = a PC to edit? I'm on Mac.
=A0
Yamaha boards in

totally avoid, 70mS latency
...no good at all for looping

That is very useful = information.

One last question: The Behringer requires a midi inter= face to interact with Mobius, does it not? I just thought of this. This is = pushing me towards the Stealth. I envision being able to put a MacBook, ped= alboard, and a few effects into my back pack and carry my guitar and lute t= o a gig, riding trains. I have a couple of rackmount midi interfaces (motu = 828 and FirePod) but that would add extra weight and take up precious space= in my baggage. Of course I could buy yet another midi interface in the for= m of a small USB one, but that seems like a waste and a step backwards.
--000e0cd594ea0d7996049e9f537a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 20:43:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45C9118345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=A0S8LNnAMkj0mJ0KeVYNIs3oNmUg0SoIKcOzkkDmtJo=; b=X2uBLyyCVFmTZ4AXmfR/0RCmRZzYD/sPwYRqddBzEx4ZhIqHZM+8bVMLJK4gzVkvEP ADkOojKGUurcey1vMl+pR/M9nAxmYFhvwzpvRIJ+MbidYSDsrdQccannjE/l36P5HxpV ks9IMo7gaSKJeRfPCGOajBlwHa3iMZUf27xl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Kvm5BFVqlpXcDHub6Pa3IyjK6ChPyC0m3pWIylPFPb6+GSpisD0pcjNJUeEoI0zDyA hRkpCEx64jxYt988hTcCOoQuxrgl3kshl8eNELkMqRCmFgNQKGYVC4snPZWmMwcrRDJo /+sdjU99vdxhjwaTPplvu/oIZBveQXgQeuWI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D807FDB.7070902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Ed Durbrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b16e995db80049e9f999f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:43:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b16e995db80049e9f999f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, you will need a USB/MIDI interface for the FCB. They are however little more than cables now so I wouldn't rule the FCB out just because of this: http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/M-Audio-USB-Uno-1X1-MIDI-Interface?sku=701379 I forget what audio interface you're using but many have a 1x1 MIDI interface. While we're exploring other pedals, there is also this one I don't think anyone mentioned: http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/ It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an expression pedal. It has been awhile since I looked at this but IIRC, I didn't like it for Mobius because it was designed primarily to send program changes and couldn't be configured to work in "sustain" mode where it sends something when you press a button and something else when you release the button. (Some footswitches call this "instant" or "momentary"). If you don't have that then you can't use any of the sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may not matter to you. Jeff On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > > One last question: The Behringer requires a midi interface to interact with > Mobius, does it not? I just thought of this. This is pushing me towards the > Stealth. I envision being able to put a MacBook, pedalboard, and a few > effects into my back pack and carry my guitar and lute to a gig, riding > trains. I have a couple of rackmount midi interfaces (motu 828 and FirePod) > but that would add extra weight and take up precious space in my baggage. Of > course I could buy yet another midi interface in the form of a small USB > one, but that seems like a waste and a step backwards. > --bcaec51b16e995db80049e9f999f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, you will need a USB/MIDI interface for the FCB. =A0They are however li= ttle more than cables now so I wouldn't rule the FCB out just because o= f this:


I forget what au= dio interface you're using but many have a 1x1 MIDI interface.

While we're exploring other pedals, there is also this o= ne I don't think anyone mentioned:

=A0=A0 =A0<= a href=3D"http://www.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/">http://ww= w.rocktron.com/products/controllers/midimate/

It is smaller than the FCB and has one jack for an expr= ession pedal.

It has been awhile since I looked at= this but IIRC, I didn't like it for Mobius because it was designed
primarily to send program changes and couldn't be configured to wo= rk in "sustain" mode where it
sends something when you = press a button and something else when you release the button.
(Some footswitches call this "instant" or "momentary").= =A0If you don't have that then you
can't use any of the = sustainable functions in Mobius, but this may not matter to you. =A0
<= div>
Jeff

On = Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@gmail.com> wrote:

One last question: The Behringer requir= es a midi interface to interact with Mobius, does it not? I just thought of= this. This is pushing me towards the Stealth. I envision being able to put= a MacBook, pedalboard, and a few effects into my back pack and carry my gu= itar and lute to a gig, riding trains. I have a couple of rackmount midi in= terfaces (motu 828 and FirePod) but that would add extra weight and take up= precious space in my baggage. Of course I could buy yet another midi inter= face in the form of a small USB one, but that seems like a waste and a step= backwards.

--bcaec51b16e995db80049e9f999f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 20:56:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9573183459; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX187j3Vk/tE7Xw8yCDNV16I3/LXh3b/Zam+SM1d6M7 1jfD/J7DzGaGhD Message-ID: <4D812401.1030300@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:56:33 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: World Water DAY Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080503030708070204050905" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <4N1nzB.A.GpE.FQSgNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:56:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080503030708070204050905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Looper Friends, On March 22nd I will be performing my song "Queen Yemanja" for World Water Day. In light of recent events I feel that it is absolutely essential to raise awareness about the importance of pure clean water for everybody on the planet... Last year I already collected water recordingsfrom Indonesia, Los Angeles, No. Carolina, Peru, Phillipines, Berlin, Australia, Italy and Brasil... and am always able to mix in more sounds into the song. Please let me know if you would like to mix in the sounds of water from where you live, andsend me the water recordings from whatever source from where ever you are... I would be glad to hear from you! Best wishes, Nadia Salom p.s. here is one version of the song w/ looping but unfortunately not the best recording of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4VlSa3uLwQ -- http://www.nirmala07.net --------------080503030708070204050905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear Looper Friends,

On March 22nd I will be performing my song "Queen Yemanja" for World Water Day. In light of recent events I feel that it is absolutely essential to raise awareness about the importance of pure clean water for everybody on the planet...

Last year I already collected water recordings from Indonesia, Los Angeles, No. Carolina, Peru, Phillipines, Berlin, Australia, Italy and Brasil... and am always able to mix in more sounds into the song. Please let me know if you would like to mix in the sounds of water from where you live, and send me the water recordings from whatever source from where ever you are...

I would be glad to hear from you!

Best wishes,
Nadia Salom

p.s. here is one version of the song w/ looping but unfortunately not the best recording of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4VlSa3uLwQ

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--------------080503030708070204050905-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 21:42:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C040A18345A; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 581942.18042.bm@omp1001.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=qp98Glt9wr2WkBwrDKVDNhM1U8itqR4v1c4vkU0UOUWimPvUBNYMf7+SqW6EWlMn51q8xiLPd8p5vgk3z0f7JAVqmeYWg2kmca9HGdvLc/FfDfAEZMKgSa72o0aQlbyHaRPnohHmYgQjHFMbuqb7MYSO7bq9vL43JI6w/Mqc1K8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300311747; bh=LwFIWSuNC7F1VCFD2FnIiU20h4Ncgow52BW7yjPgRGo=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To:Mime-Version:X-Mailer; b=xDcFGjyxZd7Hw4jtMASzK6xqdwJL7DAzPquT69RfQz3pLoJ0EA5Wh/4th5eKpaMVMIq0LyU9jCVVnCGWMxHJf798l0Fya6VcrFaWfWIuCmlfkGaIAWLO3nRZ2iAzSShzDTgzadAOKdWmjxTCAHfzfRYYpfOYasb1gdN3AXcvo0E= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: xnl1T84VM1kr_SQjr.GJgyJAB9O6w3ibFgBYFkMu6ki5Dax NwaWhD0zs X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Matthew Stevens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-84--118000137 Subject: Live session Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:42:26 +0000 Message-Id: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:42:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-84--118000137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi guys I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live = looped stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show: http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions Thanks - let me know what you think :) Matt Stevens=20 --Apple-Mail-84--118000137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi guys

I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live looped stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show:


Thanks - let me know what you think :)

Matt Stevens 


--Apple-Mail-84--118000137-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 22:00:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36A7C183459; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OPLtBbif5LxBtIMOQKmMSfLlFEeOp+uWwgOa4hSduPk=; b=JXyOohR/iH0JLK6sKlqd+hDJjIApIsl2+h4kPAN8DRMh9lUUhmCL1Ge3HrC1GGLuGh WIVu33T4NQFGw+xAPUfNBbdokTXnM9liChqV/10x7EF3qILIhsYQoHc9nx8MDGHD3t2u 0c2DU8yrGMynI0MHx5IQkTGAzo0WEGzZG1mDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gwBFtEfz7ba2j7a1C9MBkR1l3HDLaP3WVPlLdUJTDAe9o7kSN1ld46977TabdVhell sfn4g+2itGTftJHqe3vBbVhKKn1PRJ+zatfGGYUW4pYjNJtswI9mdpuPqCGE5jVakf00 xRvbNMPppiz0hTzOdfaKkiikhjvlwGF6ZByMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:00:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live session From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:00:37 +0000 (UTC) I liked it. You found a way to put some interesting harmonic progressions into loops. I get tired of hearing drones all the time. Getting interesting harmony into loops is the biggest obstacle for me with looping. thanks for posting this. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > Hi guys > I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live looped > stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show: > http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions > Thanks - let me know what you think :) > Matt Stevens > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 22:03:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189C4183449; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wYSKMD9nCxpUF2NNuKTTBFTRqqTdu9qUkLRrYHIojDM=; b=Pb13V8jRArkIpt6wN9TQokP5A6/XC4JO6z33qJ7okSX7VxTU6WHjIsgXEGE50xkWt9 fWp4JxcthnDBzRXlenYG6yTD8j/2P2PiUBcSUO0YIRMQLlK296vRsw85raoHgkjh+fy1 4MRoNyxx5b8sBtyOqNhsh3NA3WnRx6tzfdnGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vhXjasL2p9Sw1oKUBihtvPafa93ikvNDqEjXMkFyGBKXmekhWJ6nRctrUS5H2GgNcq ocdjOkIutnSHglOua+hp/CEte4h1VEwyghN6AB/jeaIT7TIfxXO5vyQZGa+miyFN4En2 nK2A6Qn7g8qH1jtO5jt6Rs5iYY4NnOHMQSAOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:03:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live session From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) I liked it. You found a way to put some interesting harmonic progressions into loops. I get tired of hearing drones all the time. Getting interesting harmony into loops is the biggest obstacle for me with looping. Thanks for posting this. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > Hi guys > I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live looped > stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show: > http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions > Thanks - let me know what you think :) > Matt Stevens > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 22:07:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39AC9183462; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 884032.76255.bm@omp1015.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=PmF60kq7INICbAEosTqV5DwvWyqtMghXo8jD6KTPBVk2Z4Wu/+fTc5oMyPqPT3T43/g99d7x6k6TFPp+FKcI9xYq0TbWwmsfqaf92nRoT5raGf3aKo0aPC14vUdaTvKunkeWvlpXNUYeJWBWKJEHKUxyAx6wVhDJA6O4okSnEjQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300313232; bh=1NjmxI7qs+0csPp6kTsYYx/tcav2UeBb7qD5P71+HW0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=I94bp33SUpvmL1Ru0AQkhrRqq2dl3/T0eJavtndbsP7j2wkOTq6CvjmZQ3uH+HFzYh27/5UFtVfVvw8VhSTHaJcakk33UChOO/SCciFvBN6x5O6YeEYRHEO5pIFu0RNRiWG6XM/VD3t/875YTOR8RPznbmtm4P2y5ZW6fpK4gwQ= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: uTDkqBMVM1luBu3GafxlPghYE14ehLXFMogypsWb.j3_n.A jJYGmRzJJOLCeye3Af04InA.2d5FH833uR9oCAS4LIwPoRQqvZQBq9MnXQ33 g1mMFNEfAe8wH0yjooELUIWUFvYGjBy9HmkH.PTFtBIwHR9VLTFLv9M1yuCu DCmsOT8xdeyIIn_2TeU.Owcl247x.PioVqEWGCdXqr815jMu6Oe0.9F755TY oqJr3sCTEGJ5UPgyjf.jatOcugqgSGkBFywVnD8Ck9RdBQRib5lLsCtLXYnZ YudGQP9vQY1je8LVsJNbR X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Re: Live session From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:07:11 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks loads Ed :) On 16 Mar 2011, at 22:00, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I liked it. You found a way to put some interesting harmonic > progressions into loops. I get tired of hearing drones all the time. > Getting interesting harmony into loops is the biggest obstacle for me > with looping. thanks for posting this. > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Stevens > wrote: >> Hi guys >> I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live looped >> stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show: >> http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions >> Thanks - let me know what you think :) >> Matt Stevens >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 16 23:26:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F7C18344B; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HodF6VzlJ0pkYQnQn0Pk2y3PmnIEfrlQHmXUstqO9KU=; b=QgZLr/6Uyor6RuB9ylJ7x4TZ67KrJ+351Uj37K5jXrEPIk+29FWJ8djPu1kaV4NzAA ueLyF8HGLTXG0k5dTz0P43azIUSW0e9zEgWhynhsgI672Y0ogOtSLS8Gl3ynKWs/rgc8 oescCVGTehbqQjOJPRx7bmmtcJrjny3ESGjvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dqbTi/pDETgVW1ogiR8rZK/UB5CfbptLvk4aIwir16LMoOqhZz+NpmKzHwSfwyZ32r jfRuRLMy5WUeOQ99FSVvrHPzPHJeV/zL/IVe+lAG8C7ZJNB5K0SwlzHEB8pF/DIY1sf0 bI06g0+8+1MNzd9v1Q1lWB++fYp5dMcM91VVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:26:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: EDP foot controller From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot controller. 1- Are these the right switches? http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=18 (Red EDP Tap Switch) 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? Thanks! Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 00:23:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5612718345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=0lgM-pzsAAAA:8 a=zW9t3xumFn4C5kZoFi0A:9 a=KZUgZLEknbZz6DI4NdhGMXRXTOEA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pJnCivsTmEEA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <203330846.1664171.1300321423339.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: RE: EDP foot controller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain, If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you can scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right ones to me. They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to break. (being largely plasic). But those appear to be the ones. Best, Ted On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > > Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot > controller. > > 1- Are these the right switches? > http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=18 (Red EDP Tap Switch) > > 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? > > 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? > > Thanks! > > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 00:31:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 844F8183460; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 129464.10126.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300321890; bh=fJ3LPIvWqg206CaI0QNqWuIg93CKDE1iyG1eLfUH/Kg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a4UqIsgT/cF0MmEG2U/4mggsjqBmkXTimST+GmiSHR1SerXpgopDG4Dp5a11lofFN8cX8p8ulagyJhk1nBFGIPMhakABTYgpINDRu9u02OcjysMyDPlmEWfAXtJxOiNsoAMgF/6ta+3ExCH+H50pXN5/YRfQiaBhorjvRKTxg+4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xfo9ORVdPqNozxuBgg0C2UZLwt5Tp0h+icKdsiMqxsGxwCYcY6mfjRxMb100hIH03A9x96mDrqVugpjNFdm+hb9WgicAqPT6wzFkFXJBmW0VyFMxRb1eY2Dg1QZTvmgcEsMwqD76TUeOn6qs92nPa89TL+4sxy15v77DmiThNZk=; Message-ID: <33252.62298.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pVdrLhwVM1mPWuU9NenI4Ny7MhqyuDH_4xC.83Zubbs4sOH qeDxaHzY6915.X1wYlka_oZxYd8nC1_5cJwfAxI9GPQBkxH1.ho3OMu5V7XZ _TPJrIncNQkruUC.e19zSe_Yb4JcA3TgCiV.U2ECEoaVo64XqCWotbv__owP o5elTtub_YI16gh.M98oi.DCbG7EmfefkMpzgpJMafELaleR8I24o3PvSVoS 6MMgCxsRcJXmqA2I65IrgA7_CvuUBKorjf_6B1dCm76GGCzS8tqmc0ct1F1f JuQBxVtbDEpl566HPcU6Qm4wKUvn9th.4xM7MtfG266JREWvZ_A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: MIDI foot controller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-745685312-1300321890=:62298" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:31:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-745685312-1300321890=:62298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii anyone hear have an opinion about the gaspedal MIDI foot controller? Antony Hequet --0-745685312-1300321890=:62298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
anyone hear have an opinion about the gaspedal MIDI foot controller?

Antony Hequet

--0-745685312-1300321890=:62298-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 02:30:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28D1E18345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 599 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:30:46 UTC Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-58--101314315 From: Loren Claypool X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:20:32 -0500 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <89F5A2DE-5BDE-44CB-BE50-B61E8C8C8FB0@theclaypools.com> References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.4D816FFF.000B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 02:30:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-58--101314315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm using a Tech-21 MIDI Moose for its function, construction, and size = - http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimoose.html. I'm quite = pleased with it. They also make a smaller pedal, the MIDI Mouse - = http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimouse.html. On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Brian Carabee wrote: > I'm using the new VoiceLive Touch and just realized that it has midi = control capability. >=20 > My challenge is that I want to use a floor pedal controller, but I = need it to be SMALL. I used to have to drive a golf cart from one end of = my setup to another, and I really am intent on cutting down. >=20 > I use a Boomerang III on the floor, and I'd just like to have a small = midi pedal with it, enabling me to control no more than 5 or 6 = functions. >=20 > Does any such animal exist? >=20 > Thanks, > Brian=20 All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there --Apple-Mail-58--101314315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I'm = using a Tech-21 MIDI Moose for its function, construction, and size = - http://w= ww.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimoose.html. I'm quite pleased = with it. They also make a smaller pedal, the MIDI Mouse - http://w= ww.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/midimouse.html.
On = Mar 16, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Brian Carabee wrote:

I'm = using the new VoiceLive Touch and just realized that it has midi control = capability.

My challenge is that I want to use a floor pedal = controller, but I need it to be SMALL. I used to have to drive a golf = cart from one end of my setup to another, and I really am intent on = cutting down.

I use a Boomerang III on the floor, and I'd just = like to have a small midi pedal with it, enabling me to control no more = than 5 or 6 functions.

Does any such animal = exist?

Thanks,
Brian

All the = best,

Loren = Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there

= --Apple-Mail-58--101314315-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 03:16:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B4B183459; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <89f0ba0e2eac1bd0105c75a322f41fb5.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:16:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:16:06 +0000 (UTC) You might want to try the Midi Mouse. I'm using it in place of my FCB. It's a bit more fiddly to implement but worth it for the small footprint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3r-vl1_wcs Andre http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress http://www.youtube.com/user/AndreDonawa?feature=mhsn On Wed, March 16, 2011 10:28 am, Brian Carabee wrote: > I'm using the new VoiceLive Touch and just realized that it has midi > control > capability. > > My challenge is that I want to use a floor pedal controller, but I need it > to be SMALL. I used to have to drive a golf cart from one end of my setup > to > another, and I really am intent on cutting down. > > I use a Boomerang III on the floor, and I'd just like to have a small midi > pedal with it, enabling me to control no more than 5 or 6 functions. > > Does any such animal exist? > > Thanks, > Brian > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 09:06:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7616B18345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 590859370/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACAJtrgU1V0r04/2dsb2JhbAAMmE+WLbtdhWMEkB8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,198,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="590859370" Message-ID: <4D81CF02.3070807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:06:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live session References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:06:07 +0000 (UTC) thanks Matt, enjoyed that a lot. ...so when are you going to start hitting the Half Speed button? ;-) andy butler Matthew Stevens wrote: > http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions > > Thanks - let me know what you think :) > > Matt Stevens > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 09:09:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 685D4183462; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 644690.10832.bm@omp1022.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=6Qy2j15BROhz7LdNqsRr3nF5DJfB/pcNOfl8Xl+RH0J4rUiP1KKfHhwzEaMqNGntcx76LFMlSRAl+lU8gjp8JXXYehc1xo32Nv5+Ty19xAxGl08Hvbx++igsoS0MBk5wzJBN27vw5ccsRz9WoYI7oph0WnVu7+4JQ+iGhrtIQdo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300352955; bh=N3PK0BEGVNYofRlscjxZR6FKpn7WET6qDjv4J6Yn32M=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=raLZHwt7ESd+0JOSbHUaVGONmESVaQ9fVQ3uWstwuZVDJypVUj54yCmF+Ysg5UhUi88dGMsFfHtlQP1rZ05PBHPDV75+klyPLMp02W8ycZq5+8BH6f0w9coc85xeZA6oG3CmrXc+1VBNYHjjvpgGAoaVpHHmtxdYTbIL3c00qAg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: xSTq.u0VM1mYS5wlT_iHXyeVheTtkW6J8G2YVQvjR76FPYh gqfpLS3Auu6XJ5wTBg2BJWhm_CR0MeERtuv1ZjARH6IvAjjaZ31xghXM_kT6 Rk0BPFedoIcMKoVgjgk66V2WgolCs9rUp1Ns_Woo5wNBphf49JdgjLw.4MH_ HlK2HdjxnLmNG_4JqIY6HL.Mdv4FDwyVx8i3843Z4obSdaHXWh1Evc5pCvKz TYe7M.4AzB.zJbWeehqsy2P4QVEqgyj27aFAdr1.u4xyiq0MUwhGZQfS.0Bg lJ8_FNxCMC1RUPsqxoW7d X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Re: Live session From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: <4D81CF02.3070807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:09:14 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <61B453A0-A1F3-432C-97A9-3F4015FA5215@btinternet.com> References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> <4D81CF02.3070807@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:09:16 +0000 (UTC) thanks Andy lol - half speed - its only a matter of time :) I need to get that EDP working..... On 17 Mar 2011, at 09:06, andy butler wrote: > thanks Matt, enjoyed that a lot. > > ...so when are you going to start hitting > the Half Speed button? > ;-) > > andy butler > > > Matthew Stevens wrote: > >> http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions >> Thanks - let me know what you think :) >> Matt Stevens > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 09:20:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 653F8183466; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 590864460/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACAB5vgU1V0r04/2dsb2JhbAAMmE/SFIVjBJAf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,198,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="590864460" Message-ID: <4D81D218.2030804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:19:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Behringer FCB1010 References: <4D807FDB.7070902@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Ed Durbrow wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:16 AM, andy butler wrote: > > Gordius > Doesn't the Godius require a PC to edit? I'm on Mac. the Mac editor is well on the way to release (and when Xavier says that, I believe it) > lute :-) what do you play on it (from tab?) ( I never looped mine yet ) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 09:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71DC9183478; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:23:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 594485643/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACANNvgU1V0r04/2dsb2JhbAAMmE/SGIVjBJAf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,198,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="594485643" Message-ID: <4D81D328.7020005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:23:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live session References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> <4D81CF02.3070807@tiscali.co.uk> <61B453A0-A1F3-432C-97A9-3F4015FA5215@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <61B453A0-A1F3-432C-97A9-3F4015FA5215@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Matthew Stevens wrote: > thanks Andy > > lol - half speed - its only a matter of time :) I was just itching for you to do that on the reverse loop at the end of the set > > I need to get that EDP working..... you did all that with a DL4 !! andy oh, mustn't forget the link > >> http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 10:19:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55F0D183474; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yvwGTqGbEvb2Kx4m5g2a4E8ceHWA8KiYVBripzVJX7M=; b=ljAEP22H2+8XzGHQdSVcSsmmrBlQ9kblZcwgzWidsDP7oYv4vGPsEeruhZ7kCUFhH4 SIQX5DY1sRMKUnpL1tqIGASjIztznH2b+3zPsdnQ0eUWTjGMl+atA+ix+JNXJ/yq5bAy +C9S6YBgwGJCmi0XR1nceg/z2WcUSUd+zK7yU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=urch228e+fBK78CD9Lf+uWS7sMEUU5nT0RZbmpn7tEOI2hN/1cn0MD0AOLG4QGllWl IGGAlvY+mEo9oz4MRFh6NBPy5EGbUNrBl/B8+/W3OE+phc9VYjWnnpvx7ok3EbD7srHU Hm/eAyp5Uj8p3l//A+sZdY2PoG+A7t5o48Rpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live session From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:19:06 +0000 (UTC) nice harms Matt! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: > Hi guys > I don't normally post my music here but this is some strictly live looped > stuff recorded for a Canadian internet radio show: > http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions > Thanks - let me know what you think :) > Matt Stevens > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 10:34:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64F3183477; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4XsjWuVz/E3L6aiB4ltNJ1GfAeBl2fC3zqe4Tw4eqDk=; b=Gw9RoOpLFvnTrkzjL3wnPbBBm3mdxEXv6/jr4aVWeJQF2UaJ5N/Dl3pxBJr0J2DHEN VqdIsjIQZGYZGaISrL54epyQOr2cqYWUGcLsQLDssrxkzmg6s2Ju3Mt1YDWg9k/r76yL w8+YkNIlAYRatPWvUXejyRmYIzXMQZ7CLEA8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iAY+T0+ZvoQfFaOUGURC2S8yh1sSuZF4HCl8nrGGbSmiSW5ncwasl0Q545HxDh1Lzk TgV0JXwPycTG6+5cCXTmSWl2bZ6iXJGzd8OebmN13j+952q5mtCnJyUfxkAP3y33CyTj q+G488TXsppJhFSDtuOjPGM+0NOYMKuIX5Pok= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6DFE9CF18EFC47B68978CC992B2289F4@office> <81778E60-FD4E-49AB-B368-6EC9DC939CD5@frontier.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Does anyone make a COMPACT midi controller pedal? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:34:52 +0000 (UTC) not sure what you want to cotrol with it but if u want to control the sus comands of the EDP forget it,it wont do it,i had it for a while but didnt like it,the interface is not very logical and is almost 4X times more expensive than the FCB1010 and the FCB does more and in an easier way! Luis On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > >> Does the liquid foot work properly. Are the switches smooth an silent? > > They work great for my purposes. I never hear any pops when switching, and > they are definitely high quality switches. I couldn't be happier with my > pedalboard, and the Liquid Foot Jr. is the brain that controls it all. > > Pics of my board are here: > http://www.trailertrashpedalboards.com/proseries_scroll.htm > > Scroll down to Pro Series, 36" and 40" boards. Mine is the first one (in > red) that says "40" Red w/ATA case. Wired by Trailer Trash). > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 10:42:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E82DA183473; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: Stretched Landscape remixed Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:42:04 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: Acvkj/MujcERyJxNS7qO8a+SykQlzA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:42:10 +0000 (UTC) go to http://bit.ly/fTITfB for a free download album of remixes of the ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number of LD loopers are among the remixers. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 11:05:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AF1B183465; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 815347.97236.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=vKNmKEvzOBj34CsLMBFOUWqE0JSOwmbxN5cV2aPxpvOOnEpK/HbGVPaDFqi/G5znXaIzIn5NrVLLnDLTM7ArmEMaqA4FFzp+FiJccPvXssYnJakPGHoC7b1o3ASop4Oobq3uWHcVgtuDUrqvAUTcZV26xzE6AGXX15g3gMaW38g= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300359950; bh=wE8ZScraZ5+W0cL77yysAiC5xgaCGjtsumpClPXw0Z8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=E57EgcdCuO9sdqJ8EhWjvAR81CBfMrVvuASEYqwH9EKTiRll65PZrFHQR+l1V4QVgbZTxlOvnlmO8LjFiuYU0L8XmPXJCxMHQ0YbG+IUHTUhwx+IoNaCW6rFcYriD5J+ON3KB5mhOL/wKR61uKcTVUu83p9D6kIe1DnVacucoB8= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Z0HVWFsVM1kEnVqkb4mDZCgj213L5TWLdbV99QtIvaRtXG9 C0.0O5wcwPlCrwh_cnkeu6EG5po02fi89EAgp1kn50JfUceWirR66jSu0DUp fbNQqb4S1SEQDFfNU5zPZpFfOf2Yz6DQtD9ortqTRuUwYJGGCmMiJ0RlhDiY r8hDTlmthikqGh.fiw3UjvX.zhS0NVNanznO0HYFkHKY00V1rolcztOhucUP PbrhWXdqPPlVZZpndLR3gVFM2F4.tVq_JszLewR1pPZ7SRANLZo2jG8xvXcD UG7W13xqc7YLKWzaxeXav X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Re: Live session From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: <4D81D328.7020005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:05:49 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9AF98913-348A-4C7C-A017-ADC21BCCDB4F@btinternet.com> References: <185F8DAB-83D7-4AFD-8259-529E618E0E78@btinternet.com> <4D81CF02.3070807@tiscali.co.uk> <61B453A0-A1F3-432C-97A9-3F4015FA5215@btinternet.com> <4D81D328.7020005@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:05:53 +0000 (UTC) :) The DL4 is my safety blanket! On 17 Mar 2011, at 09:23, andy butler wrote: > Matthew Stevens wrote: >> thanks Andy >> lol - half speed - its only a matter of time :) > > I was just itching for you to do that on the > reverse loop at the end of the set > >> I need to get that EDP working..... > > you did all that with a DL4 !! > > andy > oh, mustn't forget the link > >> >> http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/the-european-perspective-sessions > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 11:06:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF78418345F; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3czfaMn5uEfUkJwRvqCRahvVXB60fF5iYMyRaT6AmY8=; b=FySUUqZ6n+KVI8mxG0vAwN4tPGVpZR1f0roB5ngYHDbSf2SIHgS1MVeHJkSfFlgIu3 ng7+zx4H2cl5GAULuwzNkyNsyFJ9hIyJj+q6u3eVmx2amUzLwEUgvw/hF3YtHNhJ3aD6 etFhrUwm2oT2wlxfJJ5l8k8efwpbtXFCr/pH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OIemwWD4ZGqgXcuzHnGXslp8RjkiApwyrjgQC6midaHh/via816w9ONI9YnaBJx26i gLOjEcxwjqhvnij2a94WKlIbk6O8gH3XDcFrwk1AWPpTPv6aIwd4UUcR/6ttRtqdlDg6 RNeh12K8qP6yaEW+OIevXqFSVJPKJhvDW9wUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:06:42 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WldCj1zMKhyGIQCeFumgCmHJArE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4FCbb.A.P0E.CtegNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Awesome! I love that album. os. On 17 March 2011 10:42, Michael Peters wrote: > go to http://bit.ly/fTITfB for a free download album of remixes of the > ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number of LD > loopers are among the remixers. > > -Michael > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 11:29:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C2A2183463; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:29:11 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. Auto-Submitted: auto-generated From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 06:23:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 8.5.1|September 28, 2009) at 03/17/2011 06:23:56 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:29:12 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 03/17/2011 and will not return until 03/21/2011. For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you.***** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 11:52:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D43183459; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g0l9JOKIxSo4qa6bphb2OFLrypLCfhmR1MeXPbHtZa4=; b=d/OA+QqakvFzBsTiecob/jIyv/cXPXqtUEpoyf5wbFZITFybp7G+hsslCzg4rAow7o 9wbi+B9GjKn2V/3u3A8+lTvjwtQlrjGGwsVNW83WFIFlWsID7bbufhIpwVjm+f4hwCy6 CAkrBQfem6IWGJM9fkkjey1dw5iwLdf/oDnls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=oQpyAhTYtWofHcPYKH9cxmJm+7AkJWAmBTjTjjbK3G2OTkyknbETpz8X5SmWDaedyE 2sJ9uowbN58gDNYHsM3fks+GWefeyayAMOFxmEaLFC2QYyNrYCraeXkgcL7obmvzj5Q0 FF9QAjGTXbHaRCOJRwCvlUAU8K8jghJwlXKLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:52:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3489e3c5119049eac4be9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:52:21 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd3489e3c5119049eac4be9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 lol! here we go again! :O) On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM, wrote: > > I will be out of the office starting 03/17/2011 and will not return until > 03/21/2011. > > --000e0cd3489e3c5119049eac4be9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol!

here we go again!

:O)

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--000e0cd3489e3c5119049eac4be9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 12:14:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 270F518345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pZjNnW/evvlRbW0Z5BWrx7ETeYL8SuxuEHE8weteTTy1vFAkCTrKNVCdoIUcuczv; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:14:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter needs to stop using his work email for this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796660a680847aac6690f47e83c896b41e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Really? Really! >I will be out of the office starting 03/17/2011 and will not return until >03/21/2011. > >For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 > >***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >advising of the error in transmission and immediately >delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >you.***** -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 12:51:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432AA18345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tkapLCmDbTXCF+UBKx6RrjW+6b+xwAbJ6m+KO8DjNjg=; b=Z1Tb27FpYOc7DHG4v5b+U9fsED0E9NRVqcTTlqO36tCprx4Q4Qf63ZBgTra7rKUfC7 8KX3FP44gxytuIO7Jr7j/pKXLB5o5bgGYeauFgooU7+X/UkmwbT9NcdCgZc9UMic1FAy p2bE4q+VOxcDBSm2XBV3b/aSDh+RP0TgNllMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j5BPAK0MfDh2oNCs802PCYCmKHZ77J7PlcGKQkZbhx8IjnrJzcsX3mV4Vh28k9c/UQ HOtDmwl9ZrAMmVz1vAL7c9pdGXLKOf4ddjGtN8XKYMRJrem/H/xrL27KgPcMzw5qcYAc sAYaSi2nAeMrLNEHm5TLwpgfyT6pcH18D8TEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:51:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:51:13 +0000 (UTC) sounds really good to me Simeon! so how are you doing the frippertonics polyritmic stuff at the begining? how about the hand controller you have there,looks like a keyboard,is that a nano kontrol of some kind? great stuff man! Luis On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > here - http://vimeo.com/21108230 > > or just listen and download for free here if it's all too much - > http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/album/antwerp-2011 > > > > video and audio from my set at Antwerp this year. didn't go as well as i'd > hoped and had some gremlins creep into my laptop and muck about with the > gubbins, so most of the first piece is missing. > > learned a lot from the experience though and it was great to meet the other > artists and audience members from the list who made it. > > sim > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 12:54:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5964A183459; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:54:54 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=t0skmESCWXbozT3NHyIJpHlrVFAual4YJRiBfs+4YGw+ozb7iaWuK1a7KSV74GogL2RjGMf2VhR7hIDVCjUO9zSZRA/EINhJwHcbQ01Gec9/Vg9zNFEQ88cMAlgHCe6w; Message-ID: <20110317074813.t7zc8f2as4w40gcg@login.bluehost.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:48:13 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter needs to stop using his work email for this list References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:54:54 +0000 (UTC) btw -- A while back we were discussing some t-shirts with the (now famous) =20 Leinhos, Peter is out of the office message on it. I really really want to buy one... (sorry if I missed this =20 information earlier). -- Kissinger, Kevin is in the office :( Quoting Charles Zwicky : > Really? Really! > >> I will be out of the office starting 03/17/2011 and will not return unti= l >> 03/21/2011. >> >> For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 >> >> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >> you.***** > > > --=20 > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 13:05:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66ED7183459; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xr71Cbhuez/XDiYgqSflAQrC1gSM+b/mVzp8P+XZ1ss=; b=g/+VJC4uzd3wxE9aN4o4gZbwgUjswVYcjsSS8hKE/XWuoMYJ2wwcgOHNqLwWOt587R ufwTmimyrbDBeFWytFX4u8uqq9hCAjBLxoLqsQCflmyU+VPaLepqjddFynfsdWEk4PJC QK4qavAuiLlnxUNoyNoQjIKDqnPYYkp2kyJAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a6c/oIATGBOmQcUjpdtr8d5BL1gFHEpEriocdpkqCBAxxfRKDnG0velmM2dlicGGdd cx3Q2gH+FoSARmjiFxaksaiPB2YkVSlOzqkglE7UWfeKpgr9GGkZuVKQlS/8gFNZiNu+ W8WwTQ6PikYBxxMn3jm4y3x/IWuqf+M2QCbls= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <203330846.1664171.1300321423339.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <203330846.1664171.1300321423339.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP foot controller From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Ted Sylvain On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn w= rote: > Sylvain, > > If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you can > scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right one= s > to me. > > They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to break. (bein= g > largely plasic). > > But those appear to be the ones. > > Best, > > Ted > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot >> controller. >> >> 1- Are these the right switches? >> http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=3D18 (Red EDP Tap Switch) >> >> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? >> >> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Sylvain > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 13:11:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40DF218345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v6ruC2g6Ag5I8PMT7tmg1hpO2lV9YpsouuX+xNnXd3M=; b=oOox3MVbzC8PQphc/xQ6hkQjGr/IKA4Y3YgBQlVgNEeJJPGqa+i1xcwBoUvj/g6+0b JWZEP1RyOy9B6VxoD29R/MenN49J9ZvPevRpxt+KFIaBlViNDWeB1okJGRecrmJcpqia PievrgVRFqGVi4Ny8h8J0H4lkOwmqvj/PZK2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=n+2Nxy4qJZokwDKtMCx5B100uS/GLWCL05UuSZAFFbaf94v5iZ8SlaR2sd6HPE75S+ A0gezi44EWfaEeZQqq29piNRG2QPMhoiKc0gsxj0GDZCMcT2oaO4LR2er1/LFu1DO9r0 o+Jtz3ktZldOsK5uTMSNi3uFrjSVPgYs0gkmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:11:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48a20b00d3e049ead64d9 Resent-Message-ID: <5nWL1B.A.ntH.nhggNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:11:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48a20b00d3e049ead64d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks louie! the polyrhythmic stuff is all created using mobius scripting. there are two identical tracks, but one is double the length of the other and has the last 16th removed. i play one note into a track that is overdubbing with rate changes to create the melody. this is then copied, multiplied, panned and chopped with one button press. the controller is just a novation remote zero sl (old model) - http://homestudioscaracas.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/novation-remote.jpg sim On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > sounds really good to me Simeon! > so how are you doing the frippertonics polyritmic stuff at the begining? > how about the hand controller you have there,looks like a keyboard,is > that a nano kontrol of some kind? > great stuff man! > Luis > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > here - http://vimeo.com/21108230 > > > > or just listen and download for free here if it's all too much - > > http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/album/antwerp-2011 > --000e0cd48a20b00d3e049ead64d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks louie!

the polyrhythmic stuff is all created using mobius scr= ipting. there are two identical tracks, but one is double the length of the= other and has the last 16th removed. i play one note into a track that is = overdubbing with rate changes to create the melody. this is then copied, mu= ltiplied, panned and chopped with one button press.

the controller is just a novation remote zero sl (old model) - http://homestudioscaracas.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/novation-remote.j= pg

sim

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM,= Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
sounds really good to me Simeon!
so how are you doing the frippertonics polyritmic stuff at the begining? how about the hand controller you have there,looks like a keyboard,is
that a nano kontrol of some kind?
great stuff man!
Luis

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlem= ail.com> wrote:
> here - http://= vimeo.com/21108230
>
> or just listen and download for free here if it's all too much - > http://simeonharris.bandcamp.com/album/antwerp-2011
--000e0cd48a20b00d3e049ead64d9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 13:20:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5FC1183459; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=s4OrILgw51up2pnYvTHgFGSxLESh+ZXdwEULCoVZt+A=; b=x15+OrWwiH+SJNDTZi2gN423O5Uu/VLxsY7r1/VUbh/02+xWVFRPUXz5U2xU11608R XHdJWkn36hCsGwdVvaUvKjj3BWXNLjLTZzuD9G57h3UTWnr6aIEui1s+QCNRHa7vNYFk Lgx2fje3s2iu0sE7PKrfl7uaeJ8JMzHIeoq14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=lqeuO3Ae1UTBUBnKAuGQmBZCiGwsP13A3lt7Ea/7V7TBSGEKsntoFgX8t0AYkBiPEz s6yl3cuBBrOpRfmRFU8UGYvpLwwTBCs5yb/ywyvefslpRX5dqo2i/fMi2bUqZIBDPKNu S2TuTcBuIcuaFeGJnhZsBwTcGKBrZ2LFdrmAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:20:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ncn8Kbr5s_6jpSnnhkHQ6Y9hWhQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Very Nice Simeon! Im a bit into the idea of one of them Novations too actually.. they are just USB tho right? No midi in/out? Great video too! Can you take us thru your rig?.. Whats in the rack, and whats on the floor? -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 13:27:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A97183462; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1xwVigxehwwpgWycXADX6xysaf/hauXJ+oIdRffba2Y=; b=QxplKWutKlLvObbQZVxbGrng3vwpVuQkAh+TsqC9GXotTnNvJ2ejae3Q86SygNT77/ UjXCMgWrgtrscrZ1SKxFl2DlVa/wYalYYzpdySp66dFVvKmlNt6zZezgyM480MiYfOBJ HXaYJx/ApRJoRFx+ekHzoYyeg88i3m4QZiHZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XBiNwXnmb0Cht00nk5Y1AjLw0iLBahC6wBc1zDbwGfKuL4OOMEwUrL6WqWCtfw9HqG 60wp1pYWpYNpHq6/Iwu+QdICnN4zrKL/xKcVNApUsrKqucs4ZIaxqozSqoaE4FNdUaL1 xD/DvG74xhtiKP6TPcrWV3ntwdHHU0y+DqhqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:27:12 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4888a84b447049ead9e97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:27:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4888a84b447049ead9e97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 no, the novations have midi and usb. in fact two usb ports (on one cable) and two midi outs as well as in and thru. the rack has an axe fx ultra in it. on top of that is a macbook pro running mobius hosted in bidule and on the floor are two midi controllers (one for controlling mobius and one for selecting sounds on the axe fx). the novation gives me hands on control of mobius and the plugins that are used for post processing loops in bidule. you can also hear me using expersleepers' crossfade loop synth quite a lot, which is giving those forward/backward rate shifted repeats. that's it! sim On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Very Nice Simeon! Im a bit into the idea of one of them Novations too > actually.. they are just USB tho right? No midi in/out? > Great video too! > Can you take us thru your rig?.. Whats in the rack, and whats on the floor? > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --000e0cd4888a84b447049ead9e97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no, the novations have midi and usb. in fact two usb ports (on one cable) a= nd two midi outs as well as in and thru.

the rack has an axe fx ultr= a in it. on top of that is a macbook pro running mobius hosted in bidule an= d on the floor are two midi controllers (one for controlling mobius and one= for selecting sounds on the axe fx). the novation gives me hands on contro= l of mobius and the plugins that are used for post processing loops in bidu= le. you can also hear me using expersleepers' crossfade loop synth quit= e a lot, which is giving those forward/backward rate shifted repeats.

that's it!

sim

On Thu, Mar= 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Very Nice Simeon! Im a bit into the idea of one of them Novations too
actually.. they are just USB tho right? No midi in/out?
Great video too!
Can you take us thru your rig?.. Whats in the rack, and whats on the floor?=

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe


--000e0cd4888a84b447049ead9e97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 13:30:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67433183479; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=cl7Dt0BWH8ZcNo9CtkH9wjip+wPqA25LR2T+Y2OhDWo=; b=sq5VUDQFn/pIkkyEYaCO5YNgs6WIGoTaLU4OLRhfVTObtCxKaZvYpIyHrg2gciLVI5 XjKaDDwWP8uWWdI5vx+qHI1UEI1amLVIJlzokXPSthCzQc28hNGIa1+9W7BF5VG7oG6k OdEHTmc2zhuEsro19tNM2J2bkgeBFHljJSFls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QYQIxM/AXYQ2VHmL/bNQ/jfeUxCaO9Rz2mpzWO08L5vDMxFu5LpzPoLg4IDjN4B01L bHFiBKArpnBu9zJRkLCQozxT6FdPsVTvExd+CdNwjgkRvlMxzL42xWPm8qEcYbOq0pIM JYKlCn1YteRud916UICRY4D0T1Tj19OJ2htbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:30:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Aidan Baker From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7098c70c230049eada9ea Resent-Message-ID: <8QH_qD.A.nV.ozggNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:30:16 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7098c70c230049eada9ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 played at the antwerp festival too. i thought he was rather splendid. you can watch his performance on vimeo here - http://vimeo.com/21133177 very minimal setup. just a few boss pedals and an old akai headrush, but he developed a huge wash of sound that was very captivating. he's an extremely prolific artist and is constantly gigging and recording all over the world. nice chap, too. sim --000e0cd7098c70c230049eada9ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable played at the antwerp festival too. i thought he was rather splendid. you c= an watch his performance on vimeo here - http://vimeo.com/21133177

very minimal setup. just a few bos= s pedals and an old akai headrush, but he developed a huge wash of sound th= at was very captivating.

he's an extremely prolific artist and is constantly gigging and rec= ording all over the world. nice chap, too.

sim
--000e0cd7098c70c230049eada9ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 16:36:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12293183456; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8mJbjExHmfW1S50p2ka72L1aSqTBxgn3v4XT54VbehA=; b=i33RUcBLLrPYw/EqEwZfYTlo55AvtFRDQKZ6y4W1N1isq9O8NljCr8CACYeLznVXII upmr44NywBOti84W7GHNy9GIj4NSNEwyMZUN2Zm3GoPzJmf0nDeMpPTufBKViLXw1jLI ZTT8lxfK5sJf2thBoIVZfvfb7bLQmxpPrvoV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J42QI/4UAO/j6i6tl0yZky66khbCUr4UwSD4iM9jvRR6gzNteXyjlWLXZGi917tVaI uYVONymBFWFQNxhLjReb9MucyD70ZrJ0i+wpVp37Ebzej7EE+9UvThRH2KfI4CbMq81C e5hIeGCFvVGAqttctb4gfO+DIwdk+MFn+uhtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <203330846.1664171.1300321423339.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:36:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP foot controller From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00261883adfc743973049eb0434d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) --00261883adfc743973049eb0434d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking to replace the stompswitches from my EDP's foot controller as well, but 10 bucks a piece for those switches on British audio seem expensive to me. is there another place I can buy them? Thanks, Andy On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Thanks, Ted > Sylvain > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn > wrote: > > Sylvain, > > > > If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you c= an > > scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right > ones > > to me. > > > > They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to break. > (being > > largely plasic). > > > > But those appear to be the ones. > > > > Best, > > > > Ted > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot > >> controller. > >> > >> 1- Are these the right switches? > >> http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=3D18 (Red EDP Tap Switch) > >> > >> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? > >> > >> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Sylvain > > > > > > --00261883adfc743973049eb0434d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0I'm looking to replace the stompswitches from my EDP's foot = controller as well, but 10 bucks a piece for those switches on British audi= o seem expensive to me.

=A0 is there another place I can buy them?
=A0Thanks,

=A0Andy

On Thu, Mar= 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Thanks, Ted
Sylvain

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
> Sylvain,
>
> If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED"= that you can
> scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right = ones
> to me.
>
> They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping"= ; to break. (being
> largely plasic).
>
> But those appear to be the ones.
>
> Best,
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's fo= ot
>> controller.
>>
>> 1- Are these the right switches?
>> http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=3D18 (Red ED= P Tap Switch)
>>
>> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear?
>>
>> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap?=
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Sylvain
>
>


--00261883adfc743973049eb0434d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 17:19:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D997183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zkmHFBUr9HoYqkll5OxB4S2HWUyX5kWkEWqF+NztUbo=; b=QQ1AVYBQz01TVHymW8FWm9FNuhzgYwcGANDcGBDa/4KF1IYEssf9HBK+25yNsSFaHw f59gGvB+vu4eLkahOW5qTK6XIBqahx7Ab8ks1GV7a6jwzD6nwdhx3bEXjAtWwdyJ/7qZ cGJx4EYbQqBBU1fdj6dSt8+TqVpMO8eoM3t4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SQFY7nzUiB4S+JK8xlY+eyDa+x9MEFl9jm/085FhQAsOvsjWyO2tfwkcQPUQbNi9KI XTIFWK4WYzwva0/XlNEat/XUJ3UOWHTuVF8jXg0WLhVTFzMUlwtVHCDlTEsh0L4fpZUa +gu/pqnUAsytDCn9Ow16ZcM3Eh4C+avNQfM7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:18:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you are using bidule? thanx for the info! cheers On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > no, the novations have midi and usb. in fact two usb ports (on one cable) > and two midi outs as well as in and thru. > > the rack has an axe fx ultra in it. on top of that is a macbook pro running > mobius hosted in bidule and on the floor are two midi controllers (one for > controlling mobius and one for selecting sounds on the axe fx). the novation > gives me hands on control of mobius and the plugins that are used for post > processing loops in bidule. you can also hear me using expersleepers' > crossfade loop synth quite a lot, which is giving those forward/backward > rate shifted repeats. > > that's it! > > sim > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> Very Nice Simeon! Im a bit into the idea of one of them Novations too >> actually.. they are just USB tho right? No midi in/out? >> Great video too! >> Can you take us thru your rig?.. Whats in the rack, and whats on the >> floor? >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 17:31:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C51BA183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dBOueVHv7gX1PhaQ/TrSifsjt3oodM2+kECKvc/6BqQ=; b=aQQxrb1oK/Ev8Jern+ocOt2dl6JEouTy9vX6wmmqc2y4HEZenC0kBA+igLY1MisHDk G69U073GIa1xqUlS+uSqbrFeKiV1z0z+7+IB+BHUTjiPU0nWq7HxnSbjfCasaTNvhByA pUIVGy5HluOgt7cICF/vqJqTBRuMDIvWWyixI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=UEYyJisWFMfmwGmaR6FJnTlibmgUPLIfJDx6OnUaDZ3+hpZdE5ZO8m9K7cazUtsC+L CsyUS2KBx1CqD7keH3bahOYMJcpdEGDAgdI1Tpqna7LlXdjzkzjfLfvNwlmHLnx8Uz2d R5b5NPTzgfq39Ue8twZ+MW+6mCZ3SDG0pVSsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:30:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48a20281b3e049eb106e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:30:58 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48a20281b3e049eb106e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i don't like the latency, or the possibility of crashes, or the fact that my macbook probably couldn't run guitar rig and the looping rig at the same time. the axe-fx only weighs 4.5kg, so it's really easy to carry around and really not that much larger than a laptop in a decent padded bag. sim On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX > plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you > are using bidule? > thanx for the info! > cheers > > --000e0cd48a20281b3e049eb106e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i don't like the latency, or the possibility of crashes, or the fact th= at my macbook probably couldn't run guitar rig and the looping rig at t= he same time. the axe-fx only weighs 4.5kg, so it's really easy to carr= y around and really not that much larger than a laptop in a decent padded b= ag.

sim

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, = Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX
plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you
are using bidule?
thanx for the info!
cheers

--000e0cd48a20281b3e049eb106e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 17:40:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2209183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IhSGxM5/tumtDl0x9zml3KWDMVLiLD82hm6c2jVocmc=; b=PX2lgB/Ixb3DvV9ffUI7jH+4Q0pQWN/sKokiUdXyv3ZGdGsNckJL5G/VAF3Lv8DGRX 0AmZaj7eVWnYRherKLsH/yd1zgXDNd1yiY9Zae8y7fvfvEq4auV+uxv4nWUxVRrk/SXs r8NwL5M8S9M2o5hCm2Uv6ALqayLsBpDzjYe4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Om//bSfiGg0T86Icgx0C2AqD67M94U7LzQNNEQtZ2ZwuelKA5lx94MbI3hnXe2Gtrs xHngEAmY6sG70+f8Qe1zc2rtlNPxPcWxUewixcVeQRsIxnxcD/x9pSwKbV0RRJfR2x1B c09KgoU6fIUPrk3D/mR3ETzhUUs5P1YIocwuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:40:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6acd0f27293049eb12907 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:40:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6acd0f27293049eb12907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh, and i forgot to say that the axe fx knocks the socks guitar rig in terms of sound quality On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > i don't like the latency, or the possibility of crashes, or the fact that > my macbook probably couldn't run guitar rig and the looping rig at the same > time. the axe-fx only weighs 4.5kg, so it's really easy to carry around and > really not that much larger than a laptop in a decent padded bag. > > sim > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > >> Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX >> plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you >> are using bidule? >> thanx for the info! >> cheers >> >> --000e0cd6acd0f27293049eb12907 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh, and i forgot to say that the axe fx knocks the socks guitar rig in term= s of sound quality

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 a= t 5:30 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i don't like = the latency, or the possibility of crashes, or the fact that my macbook pro= bably couldn't run guitar rig and the looping rig at the same time. the= axe-fx only weighs 4.5kg, so it's really easy to carry around and real= ly not that much larger than a laptop in a decent padded bag.

sim


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@goo= glemail.com> wrote:
Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX
plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you
are using bidule?
thanx for the info!
cheers


--000e0cd6acd0f27293049eb12907-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 18:02:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA2D8183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110317113757.dz1ejvw4u80wk8oc@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:37:57 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: OT: Cry Baby: The Pedal That Rocks The World MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:35 +0000 (UTC) for us musical history geeks.. :) http://vimeo.com/20902369 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 18:02:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA20183453; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4DJu0Gyhohsargk59sBlSRMthfv9DvAn7eHT59R7+8g=; b=IWzkqrpcnoelFyS1NbPMWN+kgmaIQTp7BtD88BnmGvKB/pz6GlJRqiQR1fgl4MXCuq 2z3JPG3c3Knql5bw8j/4DwqgHrQAsbc9izEGd3i+D1ZHpAB1/4Z3A6uqfwUlKP5hZuLr DkWz8DfscX4VXJc2+llzs1EfUn3pGLF5W4oGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hkUSIz7vf9fCJSqY7SAf5Y+sLpoeejfskR3jnmyCFGr6/cSqnJch9+yuxmmQPycFdi dWJl9bX7dmpeulrGeqPbRlqTi8ssnNjDisOguDvvMAmEjJzgKR93rqVNY4OreKJFue3F +m9mHAa9js67SBmgfFFYTKaGZDU5VMcC2qu08= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:02:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gaze upon my beautific visage and weep From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:02:41 +0000 (UTC) wow!! i might be trying out one soon,man but that price.... On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > oh, and i forgot to say that the axe fx knocks the socks guitar rig in terms > of sound quality > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> >> i don't like the latency, or the possibility of crashes, or the fact that >> my macbook probably couldn't run guitar rig and the looping rig at the same >> time. the axe-fx only weighs 4.5kg, so it's really easy to carry around and >> really not that much larger than a laptop in a decent padded bag. >> >> sim >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> >>> Simeon do you prefer using the Axe FX Ultra instead of guitar FX >>> plugins like guitar rig? wouldnt that be more portable considering you >>> are using bidule? >>> thanx for the info! >>> cheers >>> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 19:30:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D86183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=e/jNQBkeaj4K45mAC4i6wbaTgYPJ6USEUtAk45WPcGY= c=1 sm=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:17 a=JOA0iUbgAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=0lgM-pzsAAAA:8 a=0HQq0aU_nkCcumupt9sA:9 a=mA5U8KAZbaOM5mhKB74A:7 a=iFHjD_7DCTY_tFvvJqZx1u4npwoA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pJnCivsTmEEA:10 a=UTGxUqkOWD8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Wx7IDAd-kvDPQANviQIA:9 a=WR5mBp6SeHoQmV_9iSkA:7 a=bGAC4RZXyGpLaZOWW5wwPv-WNQQA:4 a=qYz8RHWopigd8QnFYCx1XA==:117 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <103691466.1779643.1300390228975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: EDP foot controller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1779642_2105331723.1300390228954" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1779642_2105331723.1300390228954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Mouser Electronics. =20 I forget the exact link to the product. But they're less than $2 for only one (and even less if yu buy more)=20 from mouser. Back when I had EDPs, I bought a bag of a couple of dozen from Mouser. It's a good idea to buy more than you immediately need - to have spares=20 for the future. They areeasy to replace and not a difficult soldering job at all. Anyone could do it. That's my 2 cents... Ted (again). On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM, andy soto wrote: =C2=A0I'm looking to replace the stompswitches from my EDP's foot controlle= r=20 as well, but 10 bucks a piece for those switches on British audio seem=20 expensive to me. =C2=A0 is there another place I can buy them? =C2=A0Thanks, =C2=A0Andy On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras <=20 sylvain.trombone@gmail.com=20 = =20 > wrote: Thanks, Ted Sylvain On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.ne= t=20 >=20 wrote: > Sylvain, > If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you=20 > can scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the=20 > right ones to me. > They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to break.=20 > (being largely plasic). > But those appear to be the ones. > Best, > Ted > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: >> Hi, >> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot=20 >> controller. >> 1- Are these the right switches?=20 >> http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=3D18=20 >> (Red EDP Tap=20 >> Switch) >> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? >> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? >> Thanks! >> Sylvain > > ------=_Part_1779642_2105331723.1300390228954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Mouser Electronics.

<http://www.mouser.com/Search= /Refine.aspx?Keyword=3Dmountain+switch&No=3D50&FS=3DTrue>=

I forget the exa= ct link to the product.

But they're less than $2 for only one (and even less if yu bu= y more) from mouser.

= Back when I had EDPs, I bought a bag of a couple of dozen from M= ouser.

It'= s a good idea to buy more than you immediately need - to have spares for th= e future.

They areeasy to replace and not a difficult soldering job at all.
Anyone could do = it.

That's= my 2 cents...

Ted (again).

<= FONT FACE=3D"Verdana" SIZE=3D"2" COLOR=3D"#000000" LETTERSPACING=3D"0" KERN= ING=3D"0">On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM, andy soto wrote:

 
=C2=A0I'm looking to repla= ce the stompswitches from my EDP's foot controller as well, but 10 bucks a = piece for those switches on British audio seem expensive to me.
=C2=A0 is there anot= her place I can buy them?

=C2=A0Thanks,

=C2=A0Andy

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras = < sylvain.trombone@gmail= .com> wrote:
Thanks, Ted
Sylvain <= /DIV>

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net> = wrote:
> Sylvain,
>
> If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-R= ED" that you can
> scro= ll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right ones
> to me.
>
> = They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to brea= k. (being
> largely plasic).=
>
> But those appear to be the ones.
>
> Best,
>
> Ted
= >
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Syl= vain Poitras wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot =
>> controller.
>>
>> 1- Are these the right switches?
>>
>> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet= as they appear?
>>
>> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP f= oot controller to sell me on the cheap?
>>
>> Than= ks!
>>
>> Sylvain
>
>
=

------=_Part_1779642_2105331723.1300390228954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 19:51:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941AA183449; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=unHeZL6U3iCCwZD4pPfTf7NoZcpA2JWcsjBm/HDicbc=; b=mqyX2SVViqOYDDUE4wUTBr38zYbSYW7SKiuMFUoIBMvLG3ycGJYrML3S5FCGBqv2Tn TrMMCZLmEp1f6QImRAMtH9NFluHO9sIzn+F2r6uCkiTWi1KglFWW1ehkpTnBAP2S/79C ZA+QesfyLTBGrb5KyqoLYByoHnH37vSMIbidI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fz9G+rXuMY5xONVHdpn5yYfGsVcOvgSOPNr7wOUj+k1AcInLG4HSYtE46hW0pcDrWF f87C7me9onq66rOVhlx/zOF5F6J35wmoCSxc7uQ37M75yAIosWsjm3Giur7r5Ydqwtra Nk64MDzEJVoXVTvghDuA8ll35JnvQjdTNCqho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <103691466.1779643.1300390228975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <103691466.1779643.1300390228975.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP foot controller From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65a078c199fef049eb2fdbe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:51:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65a078c199fef049eb2fdbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm talking about the metal ones, not the cheap plastic ones :) On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Mouser Electronics. > > < > http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=3Dmountain+switch&No=3D5= 0&FS=3DTrue > > > > I forget the exact link to the product. > > But they're less than $2 for only one (and even less if yu buy more) from > mouser. > > Back when I had EDPs, I bought a bag of a couple of dozen from Mouser. > > It's a good idea to buy more than you immediately need - to have spares f= or > the future. > > They areeasy to replace and not a difficult soldering job at all. > > Anyone could do it. > > That's my 2 cents... > > Ted (again). > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM, andy soto wrote: > > > I'm looking to replace the stompswitches from my EDP's foot controller a= s > well, but 10 bucks a piece for those switches on British audio seem > expensive to me. > > is there another place I can buy them? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras < * > sylvain.trombone@gmail.com*> wrote: > Thanks, Ted > Sylvain > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn < *tedkillian@charter.ne= t*> > wrote: > > Sylvain, > > > > If you are refering to the item "Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you c= an > > > scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right > ones > > to me. > > > > They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "stomping" to break. > (being > > largely plasic). > > > > But those appear to be the ones. > > > > Best, > > > > Ted > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Couple of quick questions for those familiar with the EDP's foot > >> controller. > >> > >> 1- Are these the right switches? > >> *http://britishaudioservice.com/parts.php?cat=3D18*(Red > EDP Tap Switch) > >> > >> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as they appear? > >> > >> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Sylvain > > > > > > > > --0016e65a078c199fef049eb2fdbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm talking about the metal ones, not the cheap plastic ones :)

=


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM, tEd= =AE kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Mouser Electronics.<= /font>

<http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refin= e.aspx?Keyword=3Dmountain+switch&No=3D50&FS=3DTrue>
I forget the = exact link to the product.

But they're less than $2 for only one (and even less if yu buy more= ) from mouser.

Back when I had EDPs, I= bought a bag of a couple of dozen from Mouser.

It's a good idea to buy mo= re than you immediately need - to have spares for the future.

They areeasy = to replace and not a difficult soldering job at all.

Anyone could do it.

That's my 2 cents...

Ted (again).<= /font>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM, andy soto wrote:

<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2">=A0
=A0= I'm looking to replace the stompswitches from my EDP's foot control= ler as well, but 10 bucks a piece for those switches on British audio seem = expensive to me.

=A0 is there = another place I can buy them?

=A0Thanks,

=A0Andy

On Thu, Mar 1= 7, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Sylvain Poitras < sylv= ain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
Tha= nks, Ted
Sylvain


On Wed, = Mar 16, 2011 at 8:23 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn < tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
>= ; Sylvain,
>
> If you are refering to the item &q= uot;Model #: 73-SWT-EDP-FC-RED" that you can
>= ; scroll down to about mid-way down the page . . . looks like the right one= s
> to me.
>= ;
> They are indeed quiet, but don't take a lot of "s= tomping" to break. (being
>= ; largely plasic).
>
> But those appear to be the= ones.
>= ;
> Best,
>
>= ; Ted
>
>
>= ; On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
>
>> Hi,
= >>
>> Couple of quick questions for those familiar wi= th the EDP's foot
>= ;> controller.
>>
>> 1- Are these the ri= ght switches?
>= ;>
>> 2- are these switches as responsive and quiet as t= hey appear?
>= ;>
>> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell = me on the cheap?
>= ;>
>> Thanks!
>>
>= ;> Sylvain
>
>



--0016e65a078c199fef049eb2fdbe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 20:13:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B541183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0slJbFjuuLZRjTvay9qyyhpHwpfbJSR7wUt4smqeMRI=; b=oGzBEcm6a+ZseJP0AAtt47kl+fduqxMi/JMJgC/xVzEAQTbnkTZxdpvtE2d1Gfjja9 2AMNZG7WCeRqTF9VrkB65HmPpuSPUqgHGj0BA4UuunHX2r2KY7WXB+8QfcddlHSTVQ9I 9G1jP5XPswvY84GQ5ym8SXW9n9F6UgRDDFu+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fZYnZTsAWwnqB6sHTuRUsnCbuvk7zvmS7UKdA7LAwZlIsvZllDjlc+PYMIjwomJTI/ Hvpjcb0GbbwCPlhIbf6DYYZMacW+b3kapyqgEOEbf60TrKVunm0iFtUQStK4pHx6K3/8 +CoUR7qOebaMoi2KMG+88WnceNGRs9+a7AhVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:13:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP foot controller From: Loaf citious To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:13:36 +0000 (UTC) I like the metal ones from British Audio Supply. Unless your only a flute into a condenser mic. You won't mind the sound at all if your rockin' w/ a guitar and a drum machine (well, that's my experience). And you won't have to replace them as often. I only bought one extra and havn't used it yet. The cost is much different immediately but, if you play a lot, they will easily pay for themselves. And it's much more fun if your used to 'stomp' boxes and the like. $0.02 from the Lurker. Cheers, Andy G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 20:16:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74BA718345A; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vJgwZlGXTAWiCs5FJbOTCBfro/l62+4a0FE8YbcXbCc=; b=nvHYtx+jL0scBrZW+Ll9vtEDCpZTyke4m5QNOg4/K5p1VTDbRIc2JNnPeFtSdVcG4x XjfGLTCU0HaO+TN9KZ5hVVtOBAf+7k/XHI9jr8j8zgzemU5D+tYBcAyEwJ8P6xyl1iYM H8WT35mENcdpJPUtyaeNgAIAGtSJCrljwjR20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cs2B0s00Pgd7aQEQQ7f0N+yMq057F/MMc19KP/ySdeB5tyZpXoHsICgR+CL3O+jJ2d 0XegQrrZmGNeD/822qezcOLRKhVkVW0wmpSeH8+lpeE4pT5QR6/KYuMH/CUjbWDQUB2/ r6uA5lF3q+g6q3XJ2VRbUc8qGlV3N+11jQJSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:16:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP foot controller From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e3856d44cc4c7049eb357ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:16:48 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e3856d44cc4c7049eb357ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Agree but you must be able to buy those metal ones somewhere for less money... Not that I have anything against BAS, I'm just a musician on a budget, like most people here :) Andy On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Loaf citious wrote: > I like the metal ones from British Audio Supply. > Unless your only a flute into a condenser mic. > You won't mind the sound at all if your rockin' > w/ a guitar and a drum machine (well, that's my > experience). > And you won't have to replace them as often. > I only bought one extra and havn't used it yet. > The cost is much different immediately but, > if you play a lot, they will easily pay for themselves. > And it's much more fun if your used to 'stomp' boxes > and the like. > > $0.02 from the Lurker. > > Cheers, > Andy G. > > --e0cb4e3856d44cc4c7049eb357ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Agree but=A0 you must be able to buy those metal ones somewhere for = less money...

=A0Not that I have anything against BAS, I'm=A0 ju= st a musician on a budget, like most people here :)

=A0Andy

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Loaf citious <loafcitious@gmail.com> wrot= e:
I like the metal ones from British Audio Supply.
Unless your only a flute into a condenser mic.
You won't mind the sound at all if your rockin'
w/ a guitar and a drum machine (well, that's my
experience).
And you won't have to replace them as often.
I only bought one extra and havn't used it yet.
The cost is much different immediately but,
if you play a lot, they will easily pay for themselves.
And it's much more fun if your used to 'stomp' boxes
and the like.

$0.02 from the Lurker.

Cheers,
Andy G.


--e0cb4e3856d44cc4c7049eb357ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 20:34:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67CF1183456; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=hIU0pWjyIm0aZWtfpYZdMD4nhj2fC4ty9kPx3ytPOIE=; b=RvMrNkm/IwAEiiZWaM8UyDLFwBv1V+S6TFheUHYQsJnxXiMygyxcTsotEigRtv8s5t JGJKmblLfsdIhPCAQ3LmhwBLpn345krYPsfFSfWkGRVcpTKLtcX4hBTreF5FNCsZ3CsL kXr7lKe7YDMApBfvO9OVjGfB8aRLmYlGqw+30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=oYrJ3q4xginCxhPZ4Nq1h18lpJrveMgwG4lrq1L+T96/qREa32KlVYG8KE4LuG1eG3 ANJwjncLMTJb6uRJCOiq/bXiR0qjHjtfBi9MXhJZxwTQOosOLE6LOCtzXr0zV6nMtcM3 Zk2PcmmqchlLULrlSB/WAXOlLyKuKFYvPAaeY= From: Myke Atkinson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13--35688230 Subject: Re: Aidan Baker Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:34:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-13--35688230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for sharing this Simeon! Aidan's record Liminoid/Lifeforms (Alien8 Recordings) was definitely a = highlight release for me last year. -Myke On 2011-03-17, at 7:30 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > played at the antwerp festival too. i thought he was rather splendid. = you can watch his performance on vimeo here - http://vimeo.com/21133177 >=20 > very minimal setup. just a few boss pedals and an old akai headrush, = but he developed a huge wash of sound that was very captivating. >=20 > he's an extremely prolific artist and is constantly gigging and = recording all over the world. nice chap, too. >=20 > sim --Apple-Mail-13--35688230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks for sharing this Simeon!

Aidan's record Liminoid/Lifeforms (Alien8 Recordings) was definitely a highlight release for me last year.

-Myke

On 2011-03-17, at 7:30 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

played at the antwerp festival too. i thought he was rather splendid. you can watch his performance on vimeo here - http://vimeo.com/21133177

very minimal setup. just a few boss pedals and an old akai headrush, but he developed a huge wash of sound that was very captivating.

he's an extremely prolific artist and is constantly gigging and recording all over the world. nice chap, too.

sim

--Apple-Mail-13--35688230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 20:56:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C383183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QIi1/LtZPpNlt9gGFNhxstX5MtRlyj1BdK+HT1YWCQI=; b=oG9I0eWRQ44FPDV/8eQ2pYJKehkLG/q4QDahPuYmVoAz4RY3MobjQ+s8cDnhS+iG0S eOKOkeKQY5D2UUfyFVoq8B+F3wU2lIRzQ9XvcxRrVj2cnsGOwXmO0PbepjALUIW+HIHb 1Ki2I7LAqkojSM+hUHuX2IIpVkWz68WGZesmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f/96tPH9EZDtM+a/R+saOVm6YsOL7fWd24FOMw4kfFK0SH31uA3kRQATPWpJ997izB zPqGPcPZnBYtawujoYHsfjsmHRiywytDXi3w0kwhj45uFbk2z5VXcRE9jgNCC4GfpbYR Ifnc+2lMx6bYIPgVLAUFubjAEcfk7hK3PCMlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:56:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Aidan Baker From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5u2dW.A.p_B.DWngNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Aidan was amazing, a real pro, and my personal favorite of the night. Anyway, here's the video of my own performance, a 15 minute ambient soundscape with 3 unsynced loops. Btw: we had cut the first 6-7 minutes due to a problem with FOH recorder. Enjoy :) ---- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 20:57:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11EA018345F; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jyAjEZSsne81CI0sUMCIjaXPKPSsY4Jfmo9HPldZBZI=; b=m7ldFnkUoK9RHqquCZq1SR2M5QHn6CDd1oF9iuSyHZjE84CV5M776whVNntXDHqo2T 31hqa1m4Qv8lTvESKRdPN/91SWv0GTNcW/XT5wJL7NoR7BrG2620EhVu8Qqe23ZERVyl EUenl9E6+Yu6fKWfRTBPzjTFyRPd9Q9Swll7U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XV6peE3Lz+yZmcmR5ffVOZ467TkA6UEZgxFP4uzA/G65br+QxrTuGPtjfoHydnKjf7 x8UHhNGbIexv70+TLgkH9Fopq80JqVRvfF071w9oti3scM873fPsWsvlN6S1NxDQwjQE KFtnlOTv3qjipXggppS4gLJoDLCwKgfsCv99s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Aidan Baker From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Ahhh....here's the link http://vimeo.com/21169712 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 21:22:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5246183456; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JAtlFWCdxSdZHvsSnByLDzn5k/RD+wGgN1dBqbWyd8s=; b=FVo0UETYa1+zwM36iO+VoEYi2pYsIrWw2QcSKpmQ4x4Ja/PLQ7QoRQ2EZhDvoe/g/W Bnab0wvcrofLroJ03Bqv3QxLVKiUEt2SDyDmHV/69+DHVbrrVB0hSa1TbhFg8OHImsBF BIPW9wQekubZRbH+O2/w5Pdq2aA/GUWpYNgys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=exZdz8cV1krFJvHIr/JGYTZ43Xb/rVEle+Wpr+mDnDjTqDgoc6tQjvN8tSLU2J1HkV cESe4q3sR5xSegBrGesHLofvu7gSDJLLrmwj6ctCrWFvLRayI/tIkRVEMyltcZGYbqFa MFSgVUTCaMvlQrwvOoFVIYAbvvBSUhnHojL80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:22:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:22:36 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Seconded! UAD has always been "the best" among studio effect software > plugin tools. One should add that they have only recently become > available for laptop live musicians. UAD indeed sounds amazing. Thanks for the tip Per, I didn't know they had relased the UAD2 Satellite Firewire 400/800 series -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 21:48:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1F13183456; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8281C4.3060909@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:48:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:48:56 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "White Night" on O-Town Music. In the forst portion of the show, Richard will play a live, in-studio concert. For details, See the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 21:49:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED77B18344B; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c+p8zt6YC3pGFCVwneWtCCzgNbYIK1KREniaRun4pPw=; b=ooyaziQXyUu2E0nBFqjwDAdx39DoCA/1dhmjiglhTdx7f0oi8FtcozWdqJR89RaqCT xDPpmFrNmvGXY/lwItyQIhIfVf/qm8zS7r3EFkdx1RwhZpNzNtSSrrWbXu6kMviCbKEK xr95YW1tmqhV1by9hIkRt0v+TFVtCIxAdBXf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oB9XlzU8PT2FpzEfE2DYirXNYpbXr+Y2Yo1Z9xTyGFhCCC59uL9emWLaA9qSSMCzDT aAGnFWrvJrv1Ok1PCfQNW1WPEe/sVc0JWEYaGZ3IDUqsq1svWQmKo9CH6HQIy4c9wGD9 s7ByehQ7usG03mkyQ+Sm+TewGJHKK0QHeTS2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:49:48 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Seconded! UAD has always been "the best" among studio effect software >> plugin tools. One should add that they have only recently become >> available for laptop live musicians. > > UAD indeed sounds amazing. Thanks for the tip Per, I didn't know they > had relased the UAD2 Satellite Firewire 400/800 series Wasn't it released just recently at NAMM? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 22:20:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A8A183457; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XHBk6wi23fjmkLiLRemNuGlIDFO4LGbQznbOiKvPys4=; b=qTgB6fFgTrU6AMyrxutbhNvElFHJMIn2gcAEs5XkvpE6d/4aPaolA2/6d8Pwhdauom yCSPWWboIMOXNY/E2/Q3hDNl13C9wfUbIeFTC4mwA7rj/btEApW0wMEU/THcWlpjWDHl rDQx9ygrt9px1dpQ5zNqIS/ilFqCQF9w1oaXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lwG83UPAxVmSAprefnKIH+osdl1fbkuc3AMDvSOgpmj/gtrKAp0CE3EtRqMjTa1wUB F8G5t3bxu0sRmn3eOPvdhcJrJa17ugvaP+4KWyDBbu88JEfqbOpQp8kxoyk3B+lY+68X uTejWSjJN/A0h17AIjIUKG7xIkq+gqld/ll3Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110317074813.t7zc8f2as4w40gcg@login.bluehost.com> References: <20110317074813.t7zc8f2as4w40gcg@login.bluehost.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:15:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter needs to stop using his work email for this list From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517a8f6418f64049eb500ef Resent-Message-ID: <2D1LyB.A.LqD.8kogNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:20:44 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517a8f6418f64049eb500ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This joke is growing more old every day. None other uses his work e-mail for this list, why should dear Peter do that? We're not getting any out of office-spam here from any other list member, why this goes on and on? 2011/3/17 > btw -- > > A while back we were discussing some t-shirts with the (now famous) > Leinhos, Peter is out of the office message on it. > > I really really want to buy one... (sorry if I missed this information > earlier). > > -- Kissinger, Kevin is in the office :( > > > > Quoting Charles Zwicky : > > Really? Really! >> >> I will be out of the office starting 03/17/2011 and will not return >>> until >>> 03/21/2011. >>> >>> For telecom, Audio or Video issues, contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 3793 >>> >>> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >>> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >>> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >>> addressee(s) named above. 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None other uses his work e-= mail for this list, why should dear Peter do that?

We're not get= ting any out of office-spam here from any other list member, why this goes = on and on?

2011/3/17 <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com>=
btw --

A while back we were discussing some t-shirts with the (now famous) Leinhos= , Peter is out of the office message on it.

I really really want to buy one... =A0(sorry if I missed this information e= arlier).

-- Kissinger, Kevin is in the office =A0:(



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Really? Really!

I will be out of the office starting =A003/17/2011 and will not return unti= l
03/21/2011.

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--bcaec517a8f6418f64049eb500ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 22:33:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D182D183461; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pVQPEAXlDIU/lPNkC0doX7GYODkRK+Eqxx6ELjn7fs0=; b=KPZxVpc5JZfJtHHGmHy6eVvkQYvHecLoRgZOhjN2oOJCNcdARE2TORygNU17FLQoBk RTt9Alrdj+j+O9QHOzZWuTctMnMBU9v72TqjA3RJmiWMq1NSRWjtKWzZXX5eHhvLfHcp abg7phiDuYk6NxlJb8shUt0Fu39SzWV44c6yM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WegVpRs7Dhxx4AoF636f5Tnl44ePFXesnEvY7x2c8Ksee6km+1dVjSpJnCDZVvT70q sOiyJtRVh9RhgTl91O7W9YgK47uNDFSock7IfuHylas4lEpV3M4zBh8uBr8mgGCMXvJ9 /SkL1deZfgN+ugb8ITBB3Kn+HHfGC4PMKmlzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: ableton looper question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing tracks. Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current track status,is quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i trigger a scene or clip or whatever. Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome! thanx Luis -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 22:36:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6957183464; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mk1GKzEU8ElCdpj2qe0nDZItEkmMEpGaVR9PzPD/09cs9ZyJqaYUsBSKb+xcD4BV; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:35:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79730edfd96f90754fc15d6fc2b38118f3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Yes it was announced at NAMM. Be aware that the UAD plugins cannot be used in real-time without suffering from the latency imposed by I/O buffering. In a mixdown situation a DAW will compensate for latency automatically. >On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> Seconded! UAD has always been "the best" among studio effect software >>> plugin tools. One should add that they have only recently become >>> available for laptop live musicians. >> >> UAD indeed sounds amazing. Thanks for the tip Per, I didn't know they >> had relased the UAD2 Satellite Firewire 400/800 series > >Wasn't it released just recently at NAMM? > >Per -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 22:43:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70B7C183461; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y9FB8Ex9RF47XuXLUZO1skac+wxDozl66rILhv+YCZE=; b=DKRN1W2eCsTeouLZJpy8eDMmtLsfs9gBfUfg2cdnMlALltPDQgQNPp4iGtnBoJJw4k fh+ZAWYfWHgHtbMmKgAudQPrun2AF3NxUN5imCREalLjx/rVLvfA3zHsdrYTtVXmU2hF 5ysT0lB0FyNrzcwVIS5ILaA4K56q0pPwI8Ab8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CR9E6zlYrq/0vd4Qw346DWA3w3nflMYb/gS9WBGkGBDktnkKTRF+A8v47kKjt/U90l rj9ouXeq5ErfZlCroEq0mIRoTWCftL9uZ/S/zrGMDmMFAec+ZFytK2Kg1ySHXjiur/iJ PFEBkTul7srk7c/SpxsIw/Wub5ttviXMc4Z6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a76f65c5b45049eb5368c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:43:11 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51a76f65c5b45049eb5368c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great work Michael. Listened to whole album today, lovely piece of work! 2011/3/17 Michael Peters > go to http://bit.ly/fTITfB for a free download album of remixes of the > ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number of > LD > loopers are among the remixers. > > -Michael > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com --bcaec51a76f65c5b45049eb5368c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great work Michael. Listened to whole album today, lovely piece of work!
2011/3/17 Michael Peters = <mp@mpeters.de>
go to http://bit.ly/fTIT= fB for a free download album of remixes of the
ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number of L= D
loopers are among the remixers.

-Michael




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Petri Lahtinen
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--bcaec51a76f65c5b45049eb5368c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 17 23:00:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 391AA183456; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ESF6Q8+BpYkwhe0v+5yff2GCNq4J8MuxFslZqFt148k=; b=Rqf2GfovoV7tnsqUjVgmKX5q5U/3XmE3CWJFF7bXc6DdA3wUaGFKbsR/gtiUOLKBWt VfjdRPWCA5P9C7JKWNA/RJsmbKfz0g+DA/EqUCLKXMCXXju2ncf8n8mj1tgUUQ2T+5SW UM7CYfmSAlX5p/Zp6g9trk83YTJM+z9zD44cM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bb+IDo0FFTzqRcsgdOqUApDDMfhex8zZUPfoZYhsbO5bG+0+ownCPw9ZlVsWTvWRr5 7AcxwNnWvgHgqv30cVX1uS1P/pRcYOiKz83VQSiDFbTXYC4yryE7K9k7opEVjK3OtkdX LGI+RMr27ibArERS/Z6xUD5/fwnTFzb/e7+hQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Very nice sounds. I enjoyed it quite a bit (or rather, am enjoying it). Kevin On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Great work Michael. Listened to whole album today, lovely piece of work! > > 2011/3/17 Michael Peters >> >> go to http://bit.ly/fTITfB for a free download album of remixes of the >> ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number o= f >> LD >> loopers are among the remixers. >> >> -Michael >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 01:52:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B72183457; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 01:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cW2mVoz2xYNkYbItCA3RmdFkdIq2KolQzD7ZSrs9goM=; b=Qa0J6Kvy+qiy/YbOjwzsgelzP7HB1nqe5pvmmchvzUn6YW97Z2pLDPaSewh8i52cMo kzCSm+jWtO3E7qm3pLHXZ2ZFseJcva/RQ3dScEt5/B35ZTyx2QarY/XXpJnj7genh520 cFJnO2n6AqSW4fl0NxHXsAYQkzowtP/CDcl34= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G8yxXFbRlUPcWSgF+Mo+9Snnk/9J/4p3FiuB1xz46qUYSuDmtFyr8NaBOqqbaY3X7j zKt08is6CmTkz99WG27WPaz4cgAs5zO/1JUhQRBodaMB3tPMWEdlCYr8ZasUN8QiB19a VFLaRwdaWr1dkAYFGo71nlCk5JHXKZ8clfVIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: ImprovFriday benefit for Japan From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545bdbc0e9b235049eb807c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 01:52:32 +0000 (UTC) --0023545bdbc0e9b235049eb807c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey gang I wanted to tell you about a benefit going on at ImprovFriday. This evening, March 17th through Saturday, March 19th at 6pm PST (9pm EST/local time) the *ImprovFriday * online music community of which I am participating, is holding a benefit event to gain support for the people of Japan from their recent catastrophic events. Our normal end of the week and weekend thread event of work is being facilitated this weekend to encourage donations to the Red Cross efforts in Japan following the post earthquake and tsunami that shook Japan. Visit us at http://improvfriday.ning.com and hear music being created in this 2 plus day event by members of ImprovFriday for the benefit. Additionally on Saturday there will be several live video concerts from participating artists including Rainer, possibly Jeff Duke (experiencing broadband issues that may preclude), myself, Steve Goodman and others during the day and evening. Scheduling for the live shows is still being planned but at present starts at 11am EST. These times are subject to change so I will send a followup email later. A donation link to the Red Cross site is provided on the opening page porta= l where all the music and events will be displayed. Please join us all through the next 2.5 days as we through our collective music raise support, awareness and healing tones for the shaken Japanese people. Thanks and have a great loopin' weekend. Jim -- >From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Internation= al. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --0023545bdbc0e9b235049eb807c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey gang I wanted to tell you about a benefi= t going on at ImprovFriday.

This evening, March 17th through Saturda= y, March 19th at 6pm PST (9pm EST/local time) the ImprovFriday online music comm= unity of which I am participating, is holding a benefit event to gain suppo= rt for the people of Japan from their recent catastrophic events.=A0

Our normal end of the week and weekend thread event of work is being fa= cilitated this weekend to encourage donations to the Red Cross efforts in J= apan following the post earthquake and tsunami that shook Japan.=A0 Visit u= s at http://impr= ovfriday.ning.com and hear music being created in this 2 plus day event= by members of ImprovFriday for the benefit.=A0 Additionally on Saturday th= ere will be several live video concerts from participating artists includin= g Rainer, possibly Jeff Duke (experiencing broadband issues that may preclu= de), myself, Steve Goodman and others during the day and evening.=A0 Schedu= ling for the live shows is still being planned but at present starts at 11a= m EST.=A0 These times are subject to change so I will send a followup email= later.

A donation link to the Red Cross site is provided on the opening page p= ortal where all the music and events will be displayed.

Please join us all through the next 2.5 days as we through our collecti= ve music raise support, awareness and healing tones for the shaken Japanese= people.

Thanks and have a great loopin' weekend.

Jim
--
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &a= mp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <= a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com" target=3D"_blank">jimgoo= dinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com



--
From Brooklyn To Glindran<= /i>, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 = Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgood= inpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--0023545bdbc0e9b235049eb807c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 08:29:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D28C418345A; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 591301545/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoICAKq0gk1V0r04/2dsb2JhbAAMmGnQJIVjBJAm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,204,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="591301545" Message-ID: <4D8317D3.9000708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:07 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:01 +0000 (UTC) hi Charles, is that more than the regular latency from a pc/mac? How much in mS (if that's answerable)? ta andy Charles Zwicky wrote: > Yes it was announced at NAMM. > > Be aware that the UAD plugins cannot be used in real-time without > suffering from the latency imposed by I/O buffering. In a mixdown > situation a DAW will compensate for latency automatically. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 08:29:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA0A9183465; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2066cb39-d24d-45cb-a0ec-79b726905fb1_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.182.42] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ableton looper question Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2011 08:29:20.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[93E8F3A0:01CBE546] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:29:21 +0000 (UTC) --_2066cb39-d24d-45cb-a0ec-79b726905fb1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the looper on s= that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc using= the computer/midi keyboard? Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Thu=2C 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100 > Subject: ableton looper question > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi folks=2C > In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit > ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing > tracks. > Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual > control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current > track status=2Cis quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i trigger a > scene or clip or whatever. > Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome! > thanx > Luis >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 = --_2066cb39-d24d-45cb-a0ec-79b726905fb1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the looper on s= that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc using= the computer/midi keyboard?



Peace


Gareth@Sentien= tfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



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>=3B To: loopers-delight@l= oopers-delight.com
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>=3B Hi folks=2C
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>=3B ackward to dea= l with is the presence of the plugins when changing
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= = --_2066cb39-d24d-45cb-a0ec-79b726905fb1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 09:13:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F3E8183461; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1rLVzTsdUnuaQYMBQcJBH6a4lzDL3kbq5hJN+ROXCTk=; b=mifBhb/NOxdqpGRSQ/HG+ftxoaH/QvtYxVtRvurXaGifizI1uV0BFDlCwwtNOZHDD6 sO3F8ZfAF1kkx3vWPpIj0WfymBx5fyAUOwhIYyOADgnsecRPV058HIv9DomgjgQ+xurL PAB2HfxIXn2LOW+3D68TCzxzss4gPWOs9qBdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=trc05HS8zEU1E4dzMGc92LB0lkwzB5vez/zcZ3Yn6+2ShfBf4NU1UlIRzLo8wvcq6F wOM8ARQk093oaXk20r/iwrnT/DYYmskC9kp1cnX4VSg1cn0Ah4a+AvZYonkFeaGBvLQR Ii23jEFGQvV8u/FDEf/gBwsxg4WTRRTsZ/umA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:13:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ableton looper question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:13:42 +0000 (UTC) yes i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum loops that are on on and off as well. Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010,im just looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change tracks. Luis On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the looper on= s > that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc usin= g > the computer/midi keyboard? > > > > Peace > > > Gareth@Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > >> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100 >> Subject: ableton looper question >> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hi folks, >> In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit >> ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing >> tracks. >> Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual >> control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current >> track status,is quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i trigger a >> scene or clip or whatever. >> Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome! >> thanx >> Luis >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 09:44:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 357DA183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zUUTKuuyD3GnK3+qEQH8MPyTBXFlpf7HIyB2quinZYE=; b=ZWcivLZ7PetiLeXUS5lu6aZTR1RTBGjMZ0OoAta5N2C4666OJTBUXRaJNTA0cBynmE dMPYGWuLAyFJrE9xnv1or3W0SKH/cX5MRE0cDkBSRK1CoAp8Ygj0Dv1bGZaxxfKNAgjm v0KwhqRK9+TN++6CfLk87pDeo8n3WBBk/K3jg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xAfN57p7lCQsTbdDG873sBtmUM2Owu5SLGVY6uIhK5pNg3Kt3Y6vY2wtI0YnVxyazz G5ZC2jzD9S0il78U+WGOWgIbR8wuXV83UmWQN/W0nlGT3n/skYIlM4zxCMKKe6ePs6QD Co9hF5cUpRv+5fFLcsdVqZxpKxrRgnZjnzElE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:44:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ableton looper question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Are you sure you really want to stare at the screen wile performing? The tracks and ports in Live works just the same if not being the selected track in the Session View. So there is no technical need for selecting tracks. Here's a tip: since a couple of versions back Live supports multiple MIDI bindings! This makes it possible for your to assign the same MIDI note number to both (just as an example) Looper Overdub and for selection of the track that hosts this instance of Looper. So every time you press your Overdub pedal the Looper GUI will be displayed on the screen (since it is part of the track that is being selected by the same MIDI note number). The "hot spot area" to click on to assign external MIDI events for track selection is the top cell of the track, where the number or name can be written. Per On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > yes i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a > microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum > loops that are on on and off as well. > Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010,im just > looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change > tracks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 11:08:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95068183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3965b4ac-3796-4a26-9b06-47b75d7e535a_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.182.42] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ableton looper question Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2011 11:08:45.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9686300:01CBE55C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) --_3965b4ac-3796-4a26-9b06-47b75d7e535a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also=2C I have a latching footpedal that has an led powered by a battery th= at tells you whether it's on or off. Maybe this would help? Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Fri=2C 18 Mar 2011 10:44:13 +0100 > Subject: Re: ableton looper question > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Are you sure you really want to stare at the screen wile performing? > The tracks and ports in Live works just the same if not being the > selected track in the Session View. So there is no technical need for > selecting tracks. >=20 > Here's a tip: since a couple of versions back Live supports multiple > MIDI bindings! This makes it possible for your to assign the same MIDI > note number to both (just as an example) Looper Overdub and for > selection of the track that hosts this instance of Looper. So every > time you press your Overdub pedal the Looper GUI will be displayed on > the screen (since it is part of the track that is being selected by > the same MIDI note number). >=20 > The "hot spot area" to click on to assign external MIDI events for > track selection is the top cell of the track=2C where the number or name > can be written. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 > On Fri=2C Mar 18=2C 2011 at 10:13 AM=2C Louie Angulo > wrote: > > yes i need to change tracks constantly=2Ci have a track with a > > microphone input=2Cand for the nylon string=2Cplus i trigger the drum > > loops that are on on and off as well. > > Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010=2Cim just > > looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change > > tracks. >=20 = --_3965b4ac-3796-4a26-9b06-47b75d7e535a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also=2C I have a latching footpedal that has an led powered by a battery th= at tells you whether it's on or off. 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= --_3965b4ac-3796-4a26-9b06-47b75d7e535a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 11:48:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A21D183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hMhqa4+AFuGGwu6GzhrmGX/JkJz2Y/cbza81SGn3wAJWZpeFeK2ZG2A+oANEiNKS; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4D8317D3.9000708@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> <4D8317D3.9000708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:48:30 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-911673579==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f52459fbfab2a4ef73975cf20c738114350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:48:43 +0000 (UTC) --============_-911673579==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The latency for the UAD PCIe based system is typically double the buffer +64 samples, according to the UA web FAQ latency is greater for the FW Satellite. >hi Charles, >is that more than the regular latency >from a pc/mac? >How much in mS (if that's answerable)? > >ta >andy > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>Yes it was announced at NAMM. >> >>Be aware that the UAD plugins cannot be used in real-time without >>suffering from the latency imposed by I/O buffering. In a >>mixdown situation a DAW will compensate for latency automatically. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-911673579==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: tape delay plug ins
The latency for the UAD PCIe based system is typically double the buffer +64 samples, according to the UA web FAQ latency is greater  for the FW Satellite.

hi Charles,
is that more than the regular latency
from a pc/mac?
How much in mS (if that's answerable)?

ta
andy

Charles Zwicky wrote:
Yes it was announced at NAMM.

Be aware that  the UAD plugins cannot be used in real-time  without suffering from the latency  imposed by  I/O buffering.  In a mixdown situation a DAW will compensate for latency automatically.


--

...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-911673579==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 13:13:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEDA4183459; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 451419426/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnECAHb3gk0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmGmWOrl4hWMEjGODQw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,205,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="451419426" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:13:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EDP foot controller Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D835A75.4045.7633B4@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110317-1, 17/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:13:32 +0000 (UTC) On 16 Mar 2011 at 19:26, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? I've just made my own, using a =A310 ebay marshall footswitch as the basis and an arduino chip to control it - total cost about =A340 and it's fully programmable. This was my photoshop mockup http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/images/troller.jpg and this is the reality (so far) http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/images/troller3.jpg I'm now wrestling with the subleties of creating a matrix of footswitches so I can add more functionality to it. As with the other thread, it would be good to find pressed steel containers so I could position the holes only where I wanted them - those on the marshall were too central. All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 13:42:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6B9A183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6c2DUTrh+7m1jhGfP36+vVlF9WRUGldi4HbOP+7orys=; b=W0legDo/Ey0UId7iIzHDOGhCBkZ613pkQBsrVkFGMT8pEXpog0LDAStJf8tT0Cgzc/ MG3bUaFuPU+KDeFPEVx05EzSKsjYJFEA8Hd5+TCqbRx56ULe0wYJ9sQX4V2GldXDAiCy 0VMJHczQdRk+8PdPHBlPSm8PmZoa+Y8UDQQrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SEujIBKKvGKWQHQOfHDdbyoTZ4xHCvcsqqIt39XD8JIDPorJX/+v0pMz5GBQ0XSfgH 9fIGfLHyeaAl7fhWpocj2tsQX4KaSZ9n5BLPKlk74OBHYhcKzxcOHvb6fcoG/HD5jxGV 91/YDcm3bkvLI5TKr43OTsMgyn0gdHntahwuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110317074813.t7zc8f2as4w40gcg@login.bluehost.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Leinhos, Peter needs to stop using his work email for this list From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:42:02 +0000 (UTC) i just delete it On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > This joke is growing more old every day. > > None other uses his work e-mail for this list, why should dear Peter do > that? > > We're not getting any out of office-spam here from any other list member, > why this goes on and on? > > 2011/3/17 >> >> btw -- >> >> A while back we were discussing some t-shirts with the (now famous) >> Leinhos, Peter is out of the office message on it. >> >> I really really want to buy one... =A0(sorry if I missed this informatio= n >> earlier). >> >> -- Kissinger, Kevin is in the office =A0:( >> >> >> Quoting Charles Zwicky : >> >>> Really? Really! >>> >>>> I will be out of the office starting =A003/17/2011 and will not return >>>> until >>>> 03/21/2011. >>>> >>>> For telecom, Audio or Video issues, =A0contact Greg Bouffard @ 323 932 >>>> 3793 >>>> >>>> ***** PLEASE NOTE ***** This E-Mail/telefax message and any >>>> documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged >>>> and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the >>>> addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended >>>> addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, >>>> disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of >>>> this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may >>>> result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender >>>> advising of the error in transmission and immediately >>>> delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank >>>> you.***** >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net >>> >>> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>> >>> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >> >> >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 13:58:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A05D7183459; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:cc:content-type; bh=J9LhoSo1lmsbbCfrV8cWCqGJ2UHiFgJlDpIWqqDre34=; b=pk9c0ySj5mfHsqr3cvz/dDaigVv3vbbeT2pq07BZragLxcS3xZ/b7+A0ZdJ4JsOfEL CdHzGpZ063sUPbxC7o9IBCgWz70WFGpYQRgV2co+hB3Sl5u5t5wEuD1y/HC62IWjxWWq EJVQvod3AdkVLdiDR6xCDKNPYozwlqSd2pDGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:cc :content-type; b=VGo04PJfFEB9Pi8o4sZJEBxXnIlUBv5DCkJSfm4U7m8ppdcsbID9sEM8C9xWONGQME 8uyw57k0Dd/A4DH465ov5WDje5Ou2Tzq1+5AaHhgkMuV4//wZXwF00tQ2c8J0vUo9HNi Bnl88Hg5dKRMSLCswg/Iq5Fu1wOGPjCaSIe/w= References: <4D835A75.4045.7633B4@nick.1957.me.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D835A75.4045.7633B4@nick.1957.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:58:05 +0100 Message-ID: <-69871126417511042@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: EDP foot controller Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 18 Mar 2011, at 14:13, "nick@12testing.net" wrote: > On 16 Mar 2011 at 19:26, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >> 3- Anyone has a spare EDP foot controller to sell me on the cheap? > I do!!! Brand new!! Mail me offlist! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 14:59:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B78F183457; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=jx5SlFPJhaoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=cKaNR_KPAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=B_0rG8YOWy4jvHdB2kkA:9 a=LOdqQVu3Ar2yAmsAIVWr3-q6OpAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=mfCscb4RluEA:10 a=_t_nHpP5r9gA:10 a=SffsgEYwDXwA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <9407FFBB-7568-40AD-A4C2-AE859593D950@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110317113757.dz1ejvw4u80wk8oc@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Cry Baby: The Pedal That Rocks The World Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:59:16 -0700 References: <20110317113757.dz1ejvw4u80wk8oc@webmail.musetrap.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Cool documentary. Thanks for sharing that. On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > for us musical history geeks.. :) > > http://vimeo.com/20902369 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 16:08:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C23B183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D838379.2050501@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:08:25 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #728 for March 17, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:08:31 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110317.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #728 March 17, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight was "White Night" on O-Town Music. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Jordan Rudess and Part 1 * -- A Fistful of Patchcords (none) Richard Lainhart Richard Lainhart studio concert Jordan Rudess and Part 1 * A Fistful of Patchcords (none) Richard Lainhart 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Lainhart White Night White Night (Ex Ovo) Galactic Anthems Fog Across the Moor The Other Side (none) Galactic Anthems Ghosts of the The Other Side (none) Adalusian Plain Juta Takahashi Ararat Silence (Lunisolar) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Beautiful Blue Sky" on O-Town Music. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 16:58:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B92A183462; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-18_04:2011-03-16,2011-03-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103180099 Subject: Re: ableton looper question From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:58:37 -0700 Message-id: <66393587-101E-46E5-B05E-1E43B579CDFF@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:58:39 +0000 (UTC) > i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a > microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum > loops that are on on and off as well. I found the looper in Ableton to be quite difficult to manage when running multiple loops in sync-- plug in view switching being one among many limitations. So, I run a single multitrack looper (Mobius) on a single Ableton channel strip. Mobius then ports its 8 loops to dedicated channel strips in Ableton. In that way, I can keep the Mobius interface on the screen most of the time. I just run all my inputs through a hw mixer and then into a single Ableton channel. On this channel I run Mobius which provides 8 synchronous loops. On related note, mapping a midi control to the channel select functions can make for easy one button return to a given plugin view. I use the AKAI live controller but any midi control change will work. Make sense? daniel On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > yes i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a > microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum > loops that are on on and off as well. > Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010,im just > looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change > tracks. > Luis > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: >> Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the looper on s >> that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc using >> the computer/midi keyboard? >> >> >> >> Peace >> >> >> Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >> >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100 >>> Subject: ableton looper question >>> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com >>> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit >>> ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing >>> tracks. >>> Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual >>> control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current >>> track status,is quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i trigger a >>> scene or clip or whatever. >>> Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome! >>> thanx >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>> >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 18:15:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24B3E183461; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IyV4WoksHHlWMrpJwrLziJRCza/G+nabcHrTgWznhts=; b=VdwnwY1OpVcruyClDhO3AnFljhqla2hDLA1hlQIVKtlo5bvUOYl1zYZj0bohgbGoZb otJqrougnf6tmRtxPoOS/VNExxMyylHgMe/iGb4xD6z7tAsHiU6eikkisod2TsJH9I2N 8jbpTtjysyM4Yf+BHRx8+i9opxotAd9dAbEdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DFmcffGJGfJ/xsjYA3eEul4lDXpEHfkCEK/nc5gUQqSNz9aDwHFlJX/vgrRei/ShgT Z+Jt5lgGVwfeErvABxAoy2Vo4hvg7GDfc40NckEzFBHr4V+8CdgxDBsCjECm/GaJ5Dej 2gwvLKDBHh0r6ynL8CF4o7px1vXPaUVKNUw+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:15:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:15:21 +0000 (UTC) I got a chance to listen to the whole thing last night. The level of artistry and craft is astounding, and puts my own submission (which I was previously very proud of) to shame. Thanks everyone! The link, btw, is http://veloopity.bandcamp.com/ (in case you don't like the blindness of url shorteners like bit.ly.) --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Very nice sounds. =A0I enjoyed it quite a bit (or rather, am enjoying it)= . > > Kevin > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: >> Great work Michael. Listened to whole album today, lovely piece of work! >> >> 2011/3/17 Michael Peters >>> >>> go to http://bit.ly/fTITfB for a free download album of remixes of the >>> ambient Stretched Landscape #1 (which contains loops, yes :). A number = of >>> LD >>> loopers are among the remixers. >>> >>> -Michael >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 18 18:25:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EF79183461; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9jjU+wbUKJtEDsnAhaVkKwu/dqXzCOJnMLw0txldFwc=; b=lbOJN6Sx95i2WJQrpsBDGZc14AEEbfCwK5JrdmkSkWUSTR+yDAsw8SRL91obIVvsaP yJOUgfumguuK6VfXTzDNepPf+fWA61I1dG/g6KpvxyEF3gSG0QqfxPyxWfvCc8Pxn+E1 73CMB95cEP0zeYiMoAtFt3uSGLKJOPjiT/YnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=krkvy7qo6chYt5Q7QTeB2vkQ+ugn6++rGmloiiS6EpkqaJmTUOeF/gzJB+i1jdXkrG ufmDNiK+EFLOju9q+su+V7GcGo0Qac4RIm4I6g3LuQYY+wS/lefmsLYPaULNXFz6ydHu uKQYYAedEsirhtI2qCqV3TRPy+5MWp7ACuQ50= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:25:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Recital & Webcast Sunday From: daryl shawn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e86ba89daf7049ec5e6d9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:25:21 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e86ba89daf7049ec5e6d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This Sunday I'm doing a big recital of my music, including some looping, which I've been planning a long time. It's in New York (Brooklyn), but for those of you interested, I'm going to be doing a live video stream as well. The recital will start with some solo acoustic guitar pieces, then there'll be a short intermission, after which I'll be premiering a song cycle (with lyrics) that I wrote especially for this occasion, with an ensemble of three classical vocalists and a rhythm section from the local nu-jazz scene. I'll have my looping four-track & Dictaphone set up and will be doing some live looping/tape manipulations in a few of the pieces, along with my straight nylon-string. I've never done anything quite like this before and I'm really really excited. It happens at 4 p.m. EST (8 p.m. UTC) this Sunday, the 20th. The webcast will be at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-from-everywhere. I'll also be archiving the video, which will be accessible at the same address after the fact. If you're in New York, here's the physical location: South Oxford Space 138 South Oxford St., Brooklyn, NY, 2nd floor admission by sliding scale donation, $10-5 Can't wait... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com --90e6ba6e86ba89daf7049ec5e6d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This Sunday I'm doing a big r= ecital of my music, including some looping, which I've been planning a = long time. It's in New York (Brooklyn), but for those of you interested= , I'm going to be doing a live video stream as well. 
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2011/3/18 Matt Davignon 

> I got a chance to listen to the whole thing last night.


A very nice album indeed. I shoud add that the cover art is a great piece of
art "per se" .

-f
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2011/3/18 Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>


I got a chance to listen to the =
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A very nice album indeed. I shoud=A0add that the cover art is a great =
piece of art "per se" .


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Now I love both version, the original and this one. Well done, enjoyed
it very much :)

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On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:46 PM,   wrote:
> the wait.....also on another note, i think someone wrote that the M9 can
> take 2 xpression pedals, is this true?

Yes, see http://www.thomann.de/be/media_bdbviewer_AR_236379.html?image=14

But expression pedals are bad for polka music ;-)

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I'm loving this thread, Daniel and Per. Midi bindings... nice.

These are exactly the kind of specific instructions that really help =
someone actually figure it out.

Glad I eavesdropped on this one. Thank you.

---Christopher



On Mar 18, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

>> i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a
>> microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum
>> loops that are on on and off as well.
>=20
> I found the looper in Ableton to be quite difficult to manage when =
running multiple loops in sync-- plug in view switching being one among =
many limitations. =20
>=20
> So, I run a single multitrack looper (Mobius) on a single Ableton =
channel strip.  Mobius then ports its 8 loops to dedicated channel =
strips in Ableton. =20
>=20
> In that way, I can keep the Mobius interface on the screen most of the =
time.  I just run all my inputs through a hw mixer and then into a =
single Ableton channel.  On this channel I run Mobius which provides 8 =
synchronous loops. =20
>=20
> On related note, mapping a midi control to the channel select =
functions can make for easy one button return to a given plugin view.   =
I use the AKAI live controller but any midi control change will work.=20
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> Make sense?
>=20
> daniel=20
>=20
>=20
> On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote:
>=20
>> yes i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a
>> microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum
>> loops that are on on and off as well.
>> Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010,im just
>> looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change
>> tracks.
>> Luis
>>=20
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Gareth Whittock
>>  wrote:
>>> Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the =
looper on s
>>> that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc =
using
>>> the computer/midi keyboard?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Peace
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Gareth@Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. =
http://sentientfx.com/
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100
>>>> Subject: ableton looper question
>>>> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com
>>>> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit
>>>> ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing
>>>> tracks.
>>>> Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual
>>>> control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current
>>>> track status,is quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i =
trigger a
>>>> scene or clip or whatever.
>>>> Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome!
>>>> thanx
>>>> Luis
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> --
>>>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>>>=20
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>>=20
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>> --=20
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i have been trying to trade my pristine minimoog voyager electric blue
keyboard for a rme version for a few weeks. I have a chance to buy a rme
flat out so I'm posting this to see if someone can buy my unit NOW.

It's in top shape with latest os (3.2 I think? I updated it last month).
It has 128 presets and comes with the $$ Moog voyager fancy form fitting
dust cover.  Everything works as new.

I am asking $1800 for a sale Now so if you need to think about it or get
$$ together it won't work.  That said I can send pics or answer questions
asap as needed for any serious buyer.

Located in phila pa and I can take bank transfer, USPS mo or pay pal
(buyer pays all fees)

Will split boxing costs and buyer pays shipping costs.

This price is firm and only good for a day or so. If it doesn't sell then
I can't get a rme and  will either keep this or sell it for more at some
later point.

will still consider a trade for an Rme plus $500 cash as well.

Thanks for reading and best to send your phone # to speed things up.

References aplenty .


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Hi all,

Am liberating some unused equipment from my studio, if anyone is interested=
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starting with nice effects processor for tone and basic effects, this item
has received very little usage...

Prices go from $185 to $280 on ebay, as linked below, I'm happy to take $20=
0
paypal-ed to my account at todd@toddreynolds.com if anyone is interested.
 No box, no manual, just the unit and its accompanying power supply. A
modest shipping rate would also apply, (not a $40 shipping cost like one
sees repeatedly on ebay, boy that chaps my ass.)

* Line 6 Pod XT Live Multi-Effects Guitar Processor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DyskgccMi8Fg

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--001636c5b6804f2e28049ed898cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 17:41:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C3E183461; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zr2zWjo6qo8pxD/3iZ/H2IWkEBtGUtjwlkG/3w+81xg=; b=r3qyLQgAIqVFWoXGqLtVJjprVOuGmDeevUNYJrWxBhIQ5PLKU0X3O4cEaEp8IOuVg3 8X4pxwk9gGrwm8fkIM7JFevFFJGq4T9vkmldIcNFOyU1wMeq3/Sd+xRblyhcABin0BlH kbj9LgLY0M06QnLinSZX+PuMAqiI2gXNjcjjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eTnLW2TOjF9Y975XUHfTj+oqK5UIw2NzzCNy5dLo7G6hcTlUGtGmEZCwUyvlBxK6fm ZFqHBk0h80TMXlRbiGkMMiUsFQNTUdAFa/Ni5+IDxeNCYI/4VqZNw7fnA2T2N2CllCSL 0iqfPlfTPnjvetO+Yp6kIC2UKFHaTdcyVh4dw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:41:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: GigSpam: Improv Friday Benefit For Japan today From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517473672711718049ed9662f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:41:12 +0000 (UTC) --001517473672711718049ed9662f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks ImprovFriday has been hosting a benefit for Japan since Thur PM concluding this evening at 9pm EST. I and several others from the communit= y are performing live ustream's as part of it today. Rainer performed a wonderful set about an hour ago (12noon EST) and apologies for not getting this out to the community earlier. Here are the details. *Jim Goodin (4pm EST), Steve Moyes (5pm EST), Jeff Duke (6pm EST), Stephen Goodman (7pm EST)* Today March 19th http://improvfriday.ning.com all part of a benefit *For Japan*, donations to the Red Cross Join us *For Japan*. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001517473672711718049ed9662f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks ImprovFriday has been hosting a benefit for Japan since Thur PM concl= uding this evening at 9pm EST. =A0I and several others from the community a= re performing live ustream's as part of it today. =A0Rainer performed a= wonderful set about an hour ago (12noon EST) and apologies for not getting= this out to the community earlier. =A0Here are the details.

Jim Goodin (4pm EST), Steve = Moyes (5pm EST), Jeff Duke (6pm EST), Stephen Goodman (7pm EST)
Today March 19th
all pa= rt of a benefit=A0For Japan, donations to the Red Cross

Join us=A0For Japan.

Jim

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--001517473672711718049ed9662f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 17:57:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9012183462; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Stretched Landscape remixed Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:57:00 +0100 Message-ID: <56DC07E1E9FE4AAC913A44AB0D415DDD@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvmXOxUGcSeytp9RXOk+OOU+wEm0wAAfoDg In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:57:09 +0000 (UTC) > From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com] > The level of artistry and craft is astounding, and puts my own submission (which I was previously very proud of) to shame come on Matt, your track is really great, I love it a lot ! -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 17:59:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAC06183462; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Stretched Landscape remixed Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvmXOxoHwbJJFP1Q6GX0T0s2wmvXwAAiXNA In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <0_3r_B.A.eEG.K8OhNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:59:38 +0000 (UTC) > From: Fabio_A [mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com] > I shoud add that the cover art is a great piece of art "per se" hmmm ... maybe I should put all this looping nonsense in the garbage and start being a famous graphical artist!! ;) Anyway if anyone wants a hi-res version (to blow up to poster size to hang above your living room sofa) let me know :) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 18:55:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22B42183462; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: Subject: Help! Weird Mobius problem. Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:55:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110319-0, 19/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:55:24 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if any of you Mobius users can help me with this... I'm doing a live performance on Ustream in a couple of hours from now for the Japan benefit at ImprovFriday, and I'm all set up and having a test run of everything. For some reason the looped output of Mobius is really quiet, much quieter than the live playing. If I record a loop and play over it, I can barely hear the loop. The ouptput level is all the way up, and I'm sure I haven't changed any other settings since I last used Mobius. Any ideas why this could be? I'm using Mobius as a vst in Audiomulch and have never had this problem before. I would be VERY grateful for any help with this. Thanks! Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 19:10:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84D6183461; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T9BjsP6FgF9FtL6/u+spv9nFb71knld779eSScZdjoA=; b=svhlHEBXH74AmB/DuX16oflgc7n9mYbQdZpPuC5/jgyCnD9db+V0DNPz2cTCs7rBwC CK6cnEyIkzZs8RTHhViBqZQfwVk8XFvOZduNlEFYeKk88MDOCjfrKS/7ewowrwW1VHQt AxCFPiQPQNqKuRTzxIh9Qt3faEybuSrSoelhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X/GiX1/ZEMqxT0sTNtp6p2paIrM/LApZdaMgFWL1GWkDCTqeqD2zsXqPYJLoB702nt IAm1p1rIzhhEEljo0Num193Y8CSfNvpDDG6aHJ0oxEv+1ytKf1BuPXMyW787JZjNAqsY reYktgzwg2hGtt9flv808ZmLehfOFfxBJSeBo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:10:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help! Weird Mobius problem. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Steve are any of your individual track levels down and you are overlooking.? Also bet its a post beyond the computer problem, stuck pedal... Where does yur mobius feed after your looping computer? J On 3/19/11, Steve Moyes wrote: > I wonder if any of you Mobius users can help me with this... > > I'm doing a live performance on Ustream in a couple of hours from now for > the Japan benefit at ImprovFriday, and I'm all set up and having a test r= un > of everything. For some reason the looped output of Mobius is really quie= t, > much quieter than the live playing. If I record a loop and play over it, = I > can barely hear the loop. The ouptput level is all the way up, and I'm su= re > I haven't changed any other settings since I last used Mobius. > > Any ideas why this could be? I'm using Mobius as a vst in Audiomulch and > have never had this problem before. > > I would be VERY grateful for any help with this. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 19:27:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 535FB183461; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005a01cbe66b$a6c10d70$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Subject: Re: Help! Weird Mobius problem. Solved (sort of) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:27:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110319-0, 19/03/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jim. I was sure it wasn't post - computer, because the live playing was through Mobius too, and that was fine. Aanyway, I have found the source of the problem, it's the mixer I'm using before the audio interface. If I bypass that, all is fine. Now all I need to do is work out why it's happening, or do without the mixer altogether, which just means farting about plugging/unplugging things if I change instruments, and no stereo microphone. Annoying, but not a complete disaster! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Goodin" To: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Help! Weird Mobius problem. Steve are any of your individual track levels down and you are overlooking.? Also bet its a post beyond the computer problem, stuck pedal... Where does yur mobius feed after your looping computer? J From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 20:01:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0CB183462; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Rf1wknBz0E++IMVqP8kqLVDSW4d9EkK602JB4ozDM4sRmN8bPXGGr2er4vUyHZFY; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:00:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec795eafd8416fd2d91d150cabf95a5c3555350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Who do you know at UA, Bill? > > >I agree with the Stanster, the new UA echoplex tape simulator is >incredible as is there older roland space echo sim. I admit i'm biased >because I have several friends who work there, but there stuff is second >to none, and all though one must purchase a hardware component , A UAD >card or dongle, the benefit is the card handles all of the CPU needs for >the effects. And of course there are the great compressors and eq's not to >mention the amazing dreamverb that is also amazing. >Bill -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 19 22:01:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD1E0183462; Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TBn3e+uJqkPECsdnXZGMr4wNkCp4U1UB3nXBY6U1r4U=; b=OHO8WsBH5NsFZgxgJ8Ty8Da9XAP7N+Te8TMKfmEjcHK6y33zwf1Jcpphb7/FMbjsPs Pq4JMMxPRVUpQ4YMj+8XDx7/WFcevrzKdBLV7wiDSkgg6A2tG6ay/Oxn6IXztjNOBvyP YVhBfuwr/wDxxKXeIgKW+el8BpAFV1UYZ6TWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gNA/L752Gv1LErEgw6dVyg6GSWltmhrDfIgYprdf4dlxuh1nGZ+26DZso4F/4l7/eY wNV+WSKWGBeHyYVDhjoLg7OfxYRq3gse4Ma5EeGLsbhYCsIGknlQeJJ/xAa1juWsq1Ad v/j+RK1tTZOGWdzzF7odsovIW3y1LmVF250ds= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:01:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: wah wah movie/tc electronic flashback delay From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de0014f06cc6049edd07a5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:01:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de0014f06cc6049edd07a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for the link to the wah wah movie. it was most good to watch. loved the 70s wacka-wacka stuff.... i had a chance to try out the tc eletronic flashback delay. liked the 7 sec of delay, the tape and reverse delay was most good. i set the tape to 7 sec and was just mesmerized by the loop sounds. just very frippy. definately has a nice clean sound for sure. but over all for me it wasn't much better than my digiech dl8, to keep it. it doesn't do the pitchshifting i like. never did try the 40 sec looper. if you were in the market for either the boss dd7 or the digitech dl8 and didn't have either one of these, i'd recommend testing it out. s--- --0016e6de0014f06cc6049edd07a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for the link to the wah wah movie. it was most good to watch.
loved the 70s wacka-wacka stuff....
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i had a chance to try out the tc eletronic flashback delay.
liked the 7 sec of delay, the tape and reverse delay was most good.
i set the tape to 7 sec and was just mesmerized by the loop sounds. ju= st very frippy.
definately has a nice clean sound for sure.
but over all for me it wasn't much better than my digiech dl8, to = keep it.
it doesn't do the pitchshifting i like.
never did try the 40 sec looper. if you were in the market for either = the boss dd7 or
the digitech dl8 and didn't have either one of these, i'd reco= mmend testing it out.
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--0016e6de0014f06cc6049edd07a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 01:22:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1854183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ftxkVpVZ+coGFQ79jSRfWl8Rd1v+rzOdgQ50XzMheA0=; b=h8ECm026Tpty1w00PNnC92nIEYdZsQxXLCuIN8Q9SN7Fs+VQwThtdP21wUe55BET5Y KP/B9hQ2JwtBf8/SQrhh6OIi6C8Vq1nrpUhAYJIEGddh4TmlZNJhiaQy0rIzRu0wJ/Ju W2WvV/Sw8BJTv9P0noR9xtZtGEp6bs2AnHXRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KFlfKGAAtd2i2AfTTDE6zCQ/L2lEZw1FUBXQQQSuXuiiAV1l+yx4Xp5iR88qjc3U7K 5NHhcTHVkvIE+rgNyMcuquY1MJlkkmiRUXakBx8cvr4xsgPmhbW5nHrEYSGl5GGY4zYv kMaF3WYN/3LqfvwyLEVHdDg1g3tviS6vmEx5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9407FFBB-7568-40AD-A4C2-AE859593D950@charter.net> References: <20110317113757.dz1ejvw4u80wk8oc@webmail.musetrap.com> <9407FFBB-7568-40AD-A4C2-AE859593D950@charter.net> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:22:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Cry Baby: The Pedal That Rocks The World From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517ab7ede4efc049edfd934 Resent-Message-ID: <5RQgW.A.vLH.ybVhNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:22:58 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec517ab7ede4efc049edfd934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loved it! Thanks for the heads up! On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Cool documentary. > > Thanks for sharing that. > > > On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > > for us musical history geeks.. :) >> >> http://vimeo.com/20902369 >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --bcaec517ab7ede4efc049edfd934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loved it! Thanks for the heads up!

On Fri= , Mar 18, 2011 at 7:59 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote= :
Cool documentary.=

Thanks for sharing that.


On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote:

for us musical history geeks.. :)

http://vimeo.com/20= 902369




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--bcaec517ab7ede4efc049edfd934-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 02:02:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F29718345A; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FkF0Chwx6mu7Qq6WcBgAkYb0HUNNx66LyYNEBhwvjmQ=; b=Ao1dPLBEtwmdIxNILk/KMdqVXfCs0ccGmqAA4mSVllGcLNGNkbz2Y98jFmqeUCMTym F/ZJzpaCEsp3BP5A75TS2dRsJ2zGWHkkbiJIDJbo+10nzRzizWqWW2gYCpzlHgVZn65j ezcte+jmyQzrT5oqf8yGvxFOmgl3FikhbCZeo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VWXI6n4L94pzSC14cBCeNq556Mh0KPoybWNoKTd6WJ3r6p0720Z2SoBSPPFYxvtH7a W5qtRsYDL+YZ8Gh/xfUUxIDbRbWVNpP6fC5w1WKmSWEjfAu4eUH0sw9E6zkuXy/OvCBe JOrVCFZamLZ2kAl3kXFO7iCXGfk4H0kmB4QQs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <004f01cbe667$39879d40$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:02:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help! Weird Mobius problem. From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Steve Moyes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c15103222e7049ee06670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:02:15 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c15103222e7049ee06670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is probably too late but some things to check.... - Input Level: if input level is down it will attenuate the signal being recorded so even if Output Level is all the way up it will still sound soft - Monitoring Level: if you're monitoring with a side chain at the mixer or with "zero latency monitoring" at the audio interface, you may need to reduce your monitoring level relative to the level being recorded by Mobius - Audiomulch: What is in the path between the audio input device and the Mobius plugin inputs, check levels of all plugins in between - Feedback: make sure Mobius Feedback and Secondary Feedback are all the way up (assuming that's what you want) Jeff On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Steve Moyes wrote: > I wonder if any of you Mobius users can help me with this... > > I'm doing a live performance on Ustream in a couple of hours from now for > the Japan benefit at ImprovFriday, and I'm all set up and having a test run > of everything. For some reason the looped output of Mobius is really quiet, > much quieter than the live playing. If I record a loop and play over it, I > can barely hear the loop. The ouptput level is all the way up, and I'm sure > I haven't changed any other settings since I last used Mobius. > > Any ideas why this could be? I'm using Mobius as a vst in Audiomulch and > have never had this problem before. > > I would be VERY grateful for any help with this. > > Thanks! > > Steve > > --0015174c15103222e7049ee06670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is probably too late but some things to check....

= =A0=A0 - Input Level: if input level is down it will attenuate the signal b= eing recorded so
=A0=A0 =A0 even if Output Level is all the way u= p it will still sound soft

=A0=A0 - Monitoring Level: if you're monitoring wit= h a side chain at the mixer
=A0=A0 =A0 or with "zero latency= monitoring" at the audio interface, you may need to=A0
=A0= =A0 =A0 reduce your monitoring level relative to the level being recorded b= y Mobius

=A0=A0 - Audiomulch: What is in the path between the au= dio input device and the Mobius
=A0=A0 =A0 plugin inputs, check l= evels of all plugins in between

=A0=A0 =A0- Feedba= ck: make sure Mobius Feedback and Secondary Feedback are all the way up
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0(assuming that's what you want) =A0

Jeff


On Sa= t, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
I wonder if any of you Mobius users can hel= p me with this...

I'm doing a live performance on Ustream in a couple of hours from now f= or the Japan benefit at ImprovFriday, and I'm all set up and having a t= est run of everything. For some reason the looped output of Mobius is reall= y quiet, much quieter than the live playing. If I record a loop and play ov= er it, I can barely hear the loop. The ouptput level is all the way up, and= I'm sure I haven't changed any other settings since I last used Mo= bius.

Any ideas why this could be? I'm using Mobius as a vst in Audiomulch an= d have never had this problem before.

I would be VERY grateful for any help with this.

Thanks!

Steve


--0015174c15103222e7049ee06670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 09:53:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B83183461; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:53:47 +0100 Message-ID: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acvm5LR3suzbugM9QBi+cXVYgHV4AQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:53:56 +0000 (UTC) I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been published under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought about these licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the tracks of this album be published under a CC license, and which one would be appropriate? One can choose from different CC license types in Bandcamp: http://blog.bandcamp.com/2009/01/19/on-the-expansion-of-creativity-in-the-co mmons/ -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 10:11:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36C62183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585434454/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.156/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.156 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhoCAJJvhU1V0ruc/2dsb2JhbAAMmHCWP7crhWMEkCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,214,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="585434454" Message-ID: <4D85D2A2.5030805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:10:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: /tc electronic flashback delay References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote: > i had a chance to try out the tc eletronic flashback delay. > never did try the 40 sec looper. Basic Record and Overdub. The Record is easy to use, tap to start rec, then tap to end. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 11:17:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73766183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jL154pVHF2TQ2rXxLPwQhhTbOaINiaXUEBpd4DQVxLg=; b=bUCw4/96ZTy3nhPEF55JF1ePbp0tdACyQk9Pk42AlgJF2hJC5IiXvM3DHHP8kmhEHk 4lkOLUWeqakxMicQHxDBAB0bBXZuQurIAyQDVE7pWeeSE1xYUMNaZtisKZ4dUYPs3Lw5 Zge2qrIaa0glo/M6+rvjh6NI52nf4vQwsd/4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D/QlL6tJ9x6v5ID09Da8tRpUJ9Fquu4ySUSJcnUSSeX/nVabmVZTyslChXqBTW+zYu bRfbO2FrPr5v9yIspKtYKFuue8PcVoh4lRdwcRP5DxqVzBiDjyKzfTBDMMUB1dkhp3nw vsaP0FQiBgH7Em3BEDcuU7Iw9TCFmSvFFKurw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110314134753.77A7C183465@arsenic.violacea.com> <4010d285854aa03b7ef8f72e1eaad0fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <2686240D-76C7-47FD-8773-586EE389FD81@mac.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:17:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:17:34 +0000 (UTC) actually ive been reading quite a few bad reviews about this plugins,latency,not working properly etc. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Charles Zwicky w= rote: > Yes it was announced at NAMM. > > Be aware that =A0the UAD plugins cannot be used in real-time =A0without > suffering from the latency =A0imposed by =A0I/O buffering. =A0In a mixdow= n > situation a DAW will compensate for latency automatically. > > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw >> wrote: >>> >>> =A0On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Per Boysen wr= ote: >>>> >>>> =A0Seconded! UAD has always been "the best" among studio effect softwa= re >>>> =A0plugin tools. One should add that they have only recently become >>>> =A0available for laptop live musicians. >>> >>> =A0UAD indeed sounds amazing. Thanks for the tip Per, I didn't know the= y >>> =A0had relased the UAD2 Satellite Firewire 400/800 series >> >> Wasn't it released just recently at NAMM? >> >> Per > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 11:22:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF7F8183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AEu8dA0VYtlRu/2XBQ6PCFBbMvkfkTs2UY+TXvxHdgw=; b=M5aj+/dPQV+fmuHkcCCI48vHy0MSWCGElbN7l2rWq+Wz34mFU1M73rhkZkKZI8OHlX mDFqoOk5AV22SjLlb56H7diMY9A20mbrnrq6J8tQRfNS5cG5c7Cjomgkxkm6ZeiT9Rgd tYWuclZB24cj1QAUwlU6V0tTY2gBmLUurz0sI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lvdkoVoVGnaZgdG69Poy1Oai5M66qVKwkFgbPRO0815jiehp7jMxR1/K+CWnx7kTQm pDUKNycvtf/oGKqIbNEgPaPj/Cag/WEDg1n/SI1INSa38NDGwTK3DG7jFbCPtOz4kWht 70RxfgwEYKNy1OSDpUlYGe9dbJOUaAJuSriec= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66393587-101E-46E5-B05E-1E43B579CDFF@mac.com> References: <66393587-101E-46E5-B05E-1E43B579CDFF@mac.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:22:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ableton looper question From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Yes Daniel this is the work around ive come up with,i guess it takes some getting used to that,everything cramed up on a screen dissapearing from time to time a pedal looper and stomps are nice because well, they are always there;-) cheers Luis > > On related note, mapping a midi control to the channel select functions c= an make for easy one button return to a given plugin view. =A0 I use the AK= AI live controller but any midi control change will work. > > Make sense? > > daniel > > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> yes i need to change tracks constantly,i have a track with a >> microphone input,and for the nylon string,plus i trigger the drum >> loops that are on on and off as well. >> Im trying to cotrol everything with the behringer FCB1010,im just >> looking for a way to always see the state of the looper as i change >> tracks. >> Luis >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Gareth Whittock >> wrote: >>> Do you need to change tracks? Why not select the track with the looper = on s >>> that you can se your looper lights and fire all your other loops etc us= ing >>> the computer/midi keyboard? >>> >>> >>> >>> Peace >>> >>> >>> Gareth@Sentientfx - =A0Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:33:46 +0100 >>>> Subject: ableton looper question >>>> From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com >>>> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> In experimenting with Ableton one of the thigs im finding a bit >>>> ackward to deal with is the presence of the plugins when changing >>>> tracks. >>>> Just like on a pedalboard i would like to have a constant visual >>>> control of the looper and the plugin fx regardless of the current >>>> track status,is quite frustrating loosing sight of them as i trigger a >>>> scene or clip or whatever. >>>> Im quite new to this so all of your expert tips are welcome! >>>> thanx >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.luis-angulo.com >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 11:48:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47AB5183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VYp/Hy/oVU3u3OEx2fZ7Xd93VC+mhD8RwfRVDRkmG48=; b=fTF7i+hipXYcaImjA8+QY4gLvBeZw0m6Zo/4y3fD3A3WzVjS/QF7QE2abYz7uTSX5l Ui+afPog9Bw7GM1FtJ5+C34RrZFds7FrhZKNaBrTZLC4tfOpGlvb9xjc4ocHgG69T52v 0fvM+aky8rrIKsgfUbLQv+fifhEmHjbgMq52E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dZKHHryzpgktiiJOT6gVpt0iTAl94WGBHRq653//LnMpVXfWUN75wv1BvyjyszeYjS PZwCyurHOQUIeKRJK7Z8OxhObdNmS1kJdL0DbvgnJl9j6cIlGggsnhWogvSSV53NuLwE oAJ3LRbF1gcmAD2NkxstEbEpbuG/4gVaBSPOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> References: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:48:19 +0000 (UTC) I don't know about Germany, but at least here in Sweden one bad side effects of releasing work under a CC license is that you lose out on all compensation otherwise paid to the composer when music is broadcast over public service radio. That may be a considerable loss of income. The point in releasing work under a CC license is to make the control of who will be allowed to use your work and in what way more of an automatic function built into the work itself - rather than forcing everyone that might want to use your work to contact you for a permission, as the traditional legal rights state. One effect of a CC license can be that more people may use your work around the world, especially in low (or "no") budget situations as art school student projects. There are also some quite effective business models licensing CC music for a few, one example being Magnatune. Bottom line: Go to Creative Commons web page and read up. Then think about your PRO, the legal system in your area and your future plans. Do the math and see what gives. This should lead you at leas in the direction of the best decision :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been published > under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought about these > licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the tracks of > this album be published under a CC license, and which one would be > appropriate? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 12:04:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2FF183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 197920.64492.bm@omp1018.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=AatQCcCqY4turijNH7dwqEZTyuIJheVB1YwACzQNeDdYhc+zU692ZEyhago46hPknH7ZAnBFNUm632VuoiXT+SPUZhdV1KlOFBkA6NN81lq1WSYW6O+dXJjfWoejAzP2rcK9vqUNYUeUlAZHYXt6spa5nCrUpRAmiA1AM6CqKfg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1300622666; bh=aINYJVqd6tP7TPcM+3GZFAtApgy7h2XPFOtZtAmdZhI=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=Tpn/gmEoWytzVb9dFoSsIXZiU8zdd4fcgOC3aY+zo7h+fuZGG9PryV5JOCFEoy/c7OQ/XzNaf0+bLzDXwKBdoWZrx0k+j9n+/IEKFnEk8f4rhCrGsP+kYqPSn3qRgg72ZjnMYELEb+G9AOV63RjZOPus9y1XLOlwF78PzdkKBuU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Nb058SIVM1lmvCNziwW1nH1ML8.ceuFJwg3tGetbBhgXA0e pMk9YicTYusM5FNh62yk3.TaQ5uA9FiG.0fQBC4xGGHmmJKnJBv9uBDf7MHH c8mvG4wKDpAZV85F7DIonokt46CXu8f2PF6DoEt6UA.fienoX6FaQinClDUV 4n_sWG.IJfdZMKNJu4bcMlk0tlZo6Nn9vqd_qebIhIPIUUFqWsGmDkG11_wr lceZxnWZ7hFOu2uBcQ_bs68I9Jc2nKEhu_SBorx81DIt5t_43XLXOrFGrD88 fYtYsqlM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? From: Matthew Stevens In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:04:24 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Resent-Message-ID: <7kSg_D.A.PlE.M1ehNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:04:28 +0000 (UTC) There are various CC licenses - one that allows you to keep commercial = rights - its what i use - see the bandcamp CC page On 20 Mar 2011, at 11:48, Per Boysen wrote: > I don't know about Germany, but at least here in Sweden one bad side > effects of releasing work under a CC license is that you lose out on > all compensation otherwise paid to the composer when music is > broadcast over public service radio. That may be a considerable loss > of income. >=20 > The point in releasing work under a CC license is to make the control > of who will be allowed to use your work and in what way more of an > automatic function built into the work itself - rather than forcing > everyone that might want to use your work to contact you for a > permission, as the traditional legal rights state. One effect of a CC > license can be that more people may use your work around the world, > especially in low (or "no") budget situations as art school student > projects. >=20 > There are also some quite effective business models licensing CC music > for a few, one example being Magnatune. >=20 > Bottom line: Go to Creative Commons web page and read up. Then think > about your PRO, the legal system in your area and your future plans. > Do the math and see what gives. This should lead you at leas in the > direction of the best decision :-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Michael Peters = wrote: >> I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been = published >> under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought = about these >> licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the = tracks of >> this album be published under a CC license, and which one would be >> appropriate? >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 12:13:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32E34183462; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sf+SbFLCP6Bidk7xbhnc9KvmbTQMwt0TaXmr41357yg=; b=avD5DcKs0KLjPpg/fStkfgle833yYZFuytCPe/XOCj45E4i+nUhfp6dod40TdbTTB2 AHD95obCvC4/rumjUM8ZcnHx7NE55cXEwG+95c9rOB0qB+fcd0K8dtSQRblg+EBxFCMf M9L94n1TpHD+qiJMCWzHl4oAVkIIhVY59Yqj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ah+fNZyckI9C3DW2YUGuJCbZEIkXbZWHsdLgtVh3+jaAfMIqHpP/DClBKfCrYgBVQq W3Pc9yrPK2M+3EZFy0qfoXx3r0X9Pn6ZwuVSIhFeo7smluYcGMbHECoqxEX+sQjvFnoE GA03eoScV5jca9/BjYWRd8qk6Lcem1+gN666g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:13:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <2HdDtB.A.tyE.u9ehNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:13:34 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Matthew Stevens wrote: >> There are also some quite effective business models licensing CC music >> for a few, one example being Magnatune. Oops, a TYPO! I meant to type "for a fee", not "for a few" ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 12:36:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DCC18345A; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=Vj/1AwZv2Pb02heiuwrRhZ1+T7XPNInJdj4X/Ydtyks=; b=Wv9PbPSnKJ0LwOFoy0+hFDYgy8TypEMcojicS2gR5h5jSQc+I+SfeQ+Joq4NlF2QKK +MnUAw74sU8ChBp+ZUXCbtp5gHZRdlvyJ+GSIMBfCDVh1jirVIXiTVFul7ijQFZt9rcR VKa50s6QuVMlB0Z9pJiAFXyRDJSFne+hckPx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=nfXY4O3I7plRNHUVohD1p3uqBbpJOG3SHBThDB1m2SndMYZmrGQZ1IDgFMt6N1h++G UVDFXn2fel6MGsjlgR28q41XFlaDhYEGIIGJY/BUnJIeczf4sQRC4N83+RfakKZtKbTf 1LWcbEZrMFHquayEvyuKz9FWPvz9hRh62hY0s= References: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-194797583 Message-Id: <5B31A049-7C0F-4F9B-B9F6-DD108A3C8862@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Peters X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:35:32 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:36:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-194797583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 According to the guidelines on your site, this CC licence seems to be the appropriate ones. Attribuzione - Non commerciale - Non opere derivate=20 CC BY-NC-ND This license is the most restrictive of our six main licenses, only allowing= others to download your works and share them with others as long as they cr= edit you, but they can=E2=80=99t change them in any way or use them commerci= ally. View License Deed | View Legal Code -f www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 20/mar/2011, alle ore 10:53, "Michael Peters" ha s= critto: > I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been publishe= d > under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought about the= se > licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the tracks of= > this album be published under a CC license, and which one would be > appropriate?=20 >=20 > One can choose from different CC license types in Bandcamp: > http://blog.bandcamp.com/2009/01/19/on-the-expansion-of-creativity-in-the-= co > mmons/ >=20 > -Michael >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-194797583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
According to the guidelines on your sit= e,
this CC licence seems to be the appropriate
ones.

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    Attribuzione - Non commerciale - Non opere derivate 
    CC BY-NC-= ND

    This license is the most restr= ictive of our six main licenses, only allowing others to download your works= and share them with others as long as they credit you, but they can=E2=80=99= t change them in any way or use them commercially.

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Il giorno 20/mar/201= 1, alle ore 10:53, "Michael Peters" <mp@= mpeters.de> ha scritto:

I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has= been published
under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I= have never thought about these
licenses and I'm not sure ab= out the different types - should the tracks of
this album be= published under a CC license, and which one would be
approp= riate?

One can choose from different CC li= cense types in Bandcamp:
http://blog.bandcamp.c= om/2009/01/19/on-the-expansion-of-creativity-in-the-co
m= mons/

-Michael

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= --Apple-Mail-1-194797583-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 15:24:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 755201834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pPBjAf3Rm/72iHsZ+4vTHIbohGuAzFG6qd4kCA9D3ho=; b=gyvqK45yUTJCsGBFbHZJvrAVzQb505Y6Mz3tsSO+lHSFJ77P0vHAsF+asF5gxbpn3v 4BV3S7i6TWuReMPQD4ZFO5XdTatF0rRe7ExCUIhejbFcKcU4s2jiF/jTwMmVXvhx259A vBu6jAzZ4J/GDSpMlkthLCGvgngEzNoVAmbSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=feH4GuBzxG1K1jQGlCMFEz5FbHr8U5txgr8Xq/4aq3d2DZ+L6eZ3dTYfXoLb1MV81w 02rBOFV3a4RdFS4w5tdcanGu8Dzcbnq2T7fvs44DNSh9gTgW4A21SDK8uo4URrklJVyK g7ztSBhMfdqsrIseK9+XWEM5zb4bLXwqwhvr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:24:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab6ea7713cd049eeb9b7a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:24:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dab6ea7713cd049eeb9b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use the Creative Commons "Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs". Many online radio stations use this license to play your music and that's a lot easier for them than to write the musician in person to ask for permission. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ --0016e6dab6ea7713cd049eeb9b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I use the=A0Creative Commons "Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs&qu= ot;. Many online radio stations use this license to play your music and tha= t's a lot easier for them than to write the musician in person to ask f= or permission.
--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/

--0016e6dab6ea7713cd049eeb9b7a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 16:24:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C31BC1834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C6AqhKqREdbA7mOcM7y/LkeZRSoLnrukszuJ8IL776s=; b=kvUWaaZrH44Mmu0TdTXtLXu2h63hhBDjoLenS2ybTxDvYgjFXzwI6p83oelCgSTRy/ d7R1HjlSEYVsrZHEcLrvAJHP9hGG31Q04MJNuXUALkRAixfuS6XTiQARBuH7r20xST/E PPgz7I21TjDUAk/zR9ApoW6ries8DckFowUlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b32gb2RqxdZUqg35YhpB6ZfdZ/oPZHHDFQsYXLRpe9uLrQbzMVqOCI8T6cPUQsbEv1 hLUCAqMhEWOySTcp+ooHwYxGDp/rm9F37HR7zYXP1+nqvHsw+Jw7Z17mU10TUQv2PAPZ 4KsA+Tf9dGz5S+vy9OR90u/ocJiSsvR493vTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT: The Release of 'For Japan' From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f884e345ad049eec3e11 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:24:40 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f884e345ad049eec3e11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night ImprovFriday released a Bandcamp distribution titled 'For Japan' that will become a formal CD collection as well, for support of the Red Cross relief in Japan. I was a project organizer on this distribution and I'm just really proud to be part of it and wanted to pass along to this community. http://amaranthsound.bandcamp.com Mark, Ted it was great to see you guys i= n some of our video concerts yesterday. Thanks for turning out. Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00151743f884e345ad049eec3e11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night ImprovFriday released a Bandcamp distribution titled 'For Ja= pan' that will become a formal CD collection as well, for support of th= e Red Cross relief in Japan. =A0I was a project organizer on this distribut= ion and I'm just really proud to be part of it and wanted to pass along= to this community.


Mark, Ted it was great to see you guys in some of o= ur video concerts yesterday. =A0Thanks for turning out.

Jim

--
From Brooklyn To Gli= ndran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6r= n.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.= =A0 j= imgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00151743f884e345ad049eec3e11-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 16:50:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01BF51834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nODcpV9zLLM6bAb/wM6q/vy+pcjWm/bX8nO7qSnoA54=; b=LFR2WLxzTyQmNYnt/oESJNuICFIWYuiWmbd+MSeOMSmCn9HWCkPPZV8/kAEJ22a2++ r5ISzqM2/UahCVyY9l7dmMNvk5swrYiW4M4pRvCtZn4cQ6hHWh7qFLGdn9vbcpkUIBQq lWdeQ6SdjJBq8RaXJp7Yz7I1KU+gfkyMQ3oKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=esJLuc0CkdLswGyWWEQ74U+D7g5DnJPOfqBXp8jl9GffDU37qSRnr+ev6iziiQ12IC 5T7bg8eoWhGtqwPI0wMd5JSu8aSaatG+4RyzRMYYGILbVOJoP4X5UyjrsvHDSyoE3l3G UaztUdSubD9cyWbGRJ9HGmTp1/IdQFxxNfgvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5B31A049-7C0F-4F9B-B9F6-DD108A3C8862@gmail.com> References: <558C8AC49EB043BB9A5DA3ABC03E25BA@mpeserver> <5B31A049-7C0F-4F9B-B9F6-DD108A3C8862@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CC license for Stretched Landscape Remixes? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a4bc5e91e049eeccd83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a4bc5e91e049eeccd83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the one I use. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:35 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > According to the guidelines on your site, > this CC licence seems to be the appropriate > ones. > > > - > > *Attribuzione - Non commerciale - Non opere derivate > CC BY-NC-ND* > > This license is the most restrictive of our six main licenses, only > allowing others to download your works and share them with others as l= ong as > they credit you, but they can=92t change them in any way or use them > commercially. > > View License Deed |= View > Legal Code > > > > > > > > > > -f > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > Il giorno 20/mar/2011, alle ore 10:53, "Michael Peters" h= a > scritto: > > I have been asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been publish= ed > under a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought about > these > licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the tracks o= f > this album be published under a CC license, and which one would be > appropriate? > > One can choose from different CC license types in Bandcamp: > > http://blog.bandcamp.com/2009/01/19/on-the-expansion-of-creativity-in-the= -co > mmons/ > > -Michael > > --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --20cf30549a4bc5e91e049eeccd83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the one I use.

On Sun, Mar 20,= 2011 at 5:35 AM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
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    Attribuzione - Non commerciale - Non opere derivate=A0
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Il giorno 20/mar/2011, alle ore 10= :53, "Michael Peters" <mp@mpeters.de> ha scritto:

I have be= en asked if the Stretched Landscape Remix album has been publishedunder a Creative Commons License. Not yet - I have never thought ab= out these
licenses and I'm not sure about the different types - should the = tracks of
this album be published under a CC license, and w= hich one would be
appropriate?

One can choose from different CC license types in Bandcamp:http://blog.bandcamp.com/2009/01/19/= on-the-expansion-of-creativity-in-the-co
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-Michael




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--20cf30549a4bc5e91e049eeccd83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 18:17:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 137EA1834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:17:08 +0000 (UTC) The Looperlative stares at me saying "use me". The Walker brothers keep = encouraging me. I look at foot controllers trying to decide what would = match my use pattern. At long last, I think I can map out what I would = like to be able to do. Now the question becomes, how close will the = Looperlative actually let me get and is there a foot controller that = will help me get closer (or even be capable of doing it). As a starting = point, I know I've got issues because my ideal control configuration = needs to know more status information about the Looperlative than is = available to a controller or than is available to commands on the = Looperlative, so I would need to model the internal logic from the = Looperlative and hope that the model was correct. I also need to = distinguish between short and long presses. So, it's a long way to go. = But I figured I would post this and see what reaction it gets. My current thinking is centered around a 5 x 3 button matrix similar to = the Line6 M13. It could reasonably be successfully revised to a 4 x 4 = matrix. The basic configuration is to run the eight loops as four pairs though = much of this work work with other groupings like 8 independent loops or = two groups of four or various mixtures. Basically assume the loops are = in groups. A group shares settings for reverse, half-speed, and = scramble. At most one loop at a time within a group plays. All of the = loops in a group share a cycle length but they may consist of different = numbers of cycles. This is supported via eight buttons -- probably arranged as two rows of = four -- corresponding to the eight loops. Tap a button and if that loop = isn't empty and isn't playing, it starts playing and stops playing any = other loop from the group (probably quantized to the cycle boundary for = the loop pair or even to the loop boundary for the currently playing = loop). Tap a button for a loop that is playing and it stops the loop = playing. Tap and hold a loop select button and it does the same as above but it = copies the other loop in the pair into this loop. (Alternatively, it = could copy this loop into other one in the pair. Either way, the idea is = that the pair now contains two matching loops so we can go manipulate = one and then come back to the original.) Whichever loop select button is tapped last becomes the target loop and = its group becomes the target group. This set up alone now puts the player (me) in a position to mix up to = four different parts with two different but potentially related versions = of each part. Now we turn to the action buttons: * Sync Rec/Dub +++: This button performs a number of duties depending on = the status of the loop. If the loop isn't playing, then tapping the button goes into = record mode. If the rest of the group isn't empty, it syncs to the cycle = length for the group. If the loop isn't playing and the group is empty, it syncs to = the master cycle length (set with the first recorded loop). If the loop isn't playing and the group is empty, then a long = press triggers record on the down but disables syncing. If the loop is playing, then tapping the button goes into = overdub mode. If the loop is playing, then a long press of the button undoes = or redoes the last overdub on this loop. As a result overdub doesn't = engage for a tap until the button is released. If the loop is recording, then tapping the button switches into = overdub -- ideally at 100% feedback (see EDP safe mode). If the loop is recording, then a long press deletes the = recording. This is not undoable. If the loop is overdubbing, then a tap exits back to play mode. If the loop is overdubbing, then a long press exits back to the = play mode undoing the overdub (but leaving it available for redo). * Multiply A tap doubles the length of the loop. A second tap triples. A = third tap quadruples. (Each off of the state before we started = multiplying.) Any actions other than tapping the button break the = sequence. A long press erases all of the loops in the group. A second long = press while the group is empty resets everything. * QReplace A short tap does a QReplace. A long press accesses a page in which the buttons now all pick = replacement time divisions. These divisions are also the divisions for = scramble. =09 * Half-speed A short tap turns half-speed on or off for the group. A long press accesses a page in which one can determine what the = actual speed shift is. * Reverse A short tap turns reverse on or off for the group. If the = current loop is empty, it will record forward and then playback = backwards when closed. A long press toggles the alt send status for the group. * Scramble A short tap turns scramble on or off for the group. A long press does a SUS scramble. * Fade A short press turns global fade on or off. When fade is on, = transitions for starting and stopping loops and possibly when switching = between loops in a group does a fade. A long press invokes a Fade All which will fade everything down = or if everything is already faded down will fade everything up. There are other features that would probably be interesting. I'm not = thrilled with doubling the alt send control onto the reverse button, but = I didn't have a good alternative given the button budget I had allowed = myself. It might be nice to change sync modes as well (loops v cycles v = immediate). It probably all would need some real experience playing it = to tune the behaviors, but there's the general model. Given another button I might also look at supporting replace mode = directly with a button so that one can hit a button to start overdubbing = with feedback at 0% and then hit another buttons (rec/dub) to shift to = overdubbing at some other feedback level. This can be done with a = feedback control pedal, but then one has to pay attention to where the = feedback is set when jumping between loops. For loop level, I'd like to have essentially a foot controlled mod wheel = that could push the volume level up or down. Feedback can probably be a = standard footpedal or other continuous controller though as noted above, = I would like this to be the feedback for secondary overdubs as opposed = to the feedback on first loop closure (or at least I'd like an option to = have it behave this way). Clearly the underlying loop recording and playback engine on the = Looperlative is capable of this. Most of the operations are possible on = the Looperlative. (Exceptions: Changing QReplace division with a = command; having scramble tie to QReplace; copying into a specific = non-blank-loop -- but those seem to have more to do with what the = commands support rather than the loop engine.) But it takes a control = system that is aware of the current status of the Looperlative and is = short-press/long-press aware and those both seem like steeper hurdles. Any advice on how close I can get? Mark P.S. I targeted the M13 form factor because it seems to be a good = compromise between having lots of buttons and not consuming horrendous = amounts of floor space. My real ideal in all of this would put the = looper in the box itself. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 18:54:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E3411834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=/0WeVvac4KtI68aNtnE4bxHiTpEOEycqxwVbguke89Q=; b=JDv5sP/pfczQu9LuO2WgjIOny84pSuBNGhvZPnTMysB0w11rkn6NREkGJWrnQrkm3p Sns7s/L/4IGiSkJOxHBTa0nEIJduCz2KKqdIxo21QoLpT5+0W7iNyv0baHunFuedEyAc +y61ZIc4whNL3hZejlcc8g8yz8EclmAqxsl7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=YpeA7KSE9TPvnYGRXUTNXVEXI++sPCJrg4uqRPdGDxvlhn1kSTRCqgSKAgS3dCYZzx 8xeeT+Jf89oiQcBezZvOacPvpsFI2UYmEhVup7fAM1nues2LoI+tN4QOX57phasUHgi0 oIzmKINg3OFkGnkBMNymYtGy0HYbztTe8flWg= Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> Message-Id: <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:56:31 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:54:30 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. I think it would be possible wit= h mobius and some clever scripting.=20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 19:31:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B30DA1834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 595703024/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.187.156/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.187.156 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0CAA/zhU1V0ruc/2dsb2JhbAAMmGbMQYVjBJAs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,216,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="595703024" Message-ID: <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:31:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Simeon Harris wrote: > I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 20:31:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F05E11834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hHguAe2JeR1FyBGvsOsxTTfgvRM87oKofJyR13/3A3Y=; b=D2pkDbBo+vXJHu6Yqg/zGhNWM7ZYOkrJljssOLec2uN9dHEh8Sdcxa8tkwSW7xG86g ysTP9z/FbwwmmiOL9hqd5qcXwLKE/C0Gj39rPqz8DkKPDwjW6ry7S+bHgXfgh4/EEuiO qk02HGGJGUdi5LvQm/M39AL0l1ziDzF1SYkZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LBqtVclyXTSMMPJvsz+NLZRjcIxomSPOTr3eqAIIEOBF09lHOPcDfkc6cYqQDXdU0s pWoERwaRKjj/OKfOSLbWTBPDgPeE+TzK1VLYoLTt9HliAqqgsyqsQuA8jGNbzbD37yTD RfAKzc6OMiLduQMGqld9NFHYr2cu11lPaSY7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <48c96d6a44223dd3519e8f214c587074.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20110320123613.8864D183466@arsenic.violacea.com> <48c96d6a44223dd3519e8f214c587074.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:31:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tape delay plug ins From: Louie Angulo To: billwalker@baymoon.com Cc: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) i read a couple of them from different shop websites like amazon and musicians friend and a couple fo forums thoguh i dont exactly remeber which ones, i was considering getting one for my laptop since they caught my interest so i started doing some research,it seems more problematic between window users... here are some of them: Windows XP users ... Beware!!! Posted by Greg from West Bloomfield, MI on Jan 8, 2011 Experience w/product: I own it Reviewer's Background: Hobbyist, Musician, etc... Reviewer's Play Style: Jazz, Gospel, and R&B I assume UAD hardware products are pretty good... But, if you are using a Windows XP Laptop computer (like myself), beware!!! I never got pass the installation. I called UAD tech. support 3 times for over a week and a half. But with no luck, I still could never get this card to work. The tech. support said that I needed to upgrade and/or change the settings on my computer (What)?! I said... wait a minute... hold on... I don't need to make any changes like that to my computer that might interupt the other programs I'm using (Cubase 5, M-Audio interface, Wavelab, etc.). All of those and more seem to be working just fine. After downloading the drivers, I should be able to just plug this card in the slot and the light on the card should go from red to green right?!!! Well, it never happen so I returned this item and I will be purchasing "Waves Software"!!! I downloaded the demos and they sound pretty nice and worked just fine!!! Lesson for today: If you can't download the demo and try it first "DON'T BUY IT"!!! Maybe I needed a $2000 Mac Computer??? UAD hardware: 5 stars but UAD software 1 star (and over priced)!!! a couple from sweetwater music: Forget it with PC by from Toronto, ON January 26, 2011 Music Background: Pro Musician, Producer & Recording hobbyist I bought this card because of falling in love with UAD plugins at a previous album recording session. I wanted it for my PC Lenovo laptop. I was happy to try it but was never able to install it. After... read more [+] all the possible troubleshooting, correspondence with UAD, forums=85I had to beg the vendor to take it back. Throughout many sleepless nights & crashes, I managed to run the card for about 10 mins. The beautiful plugins sounded great and this pisses me off even more now, since there=92s no way I can ever run them on my PC. It may run on a Sony or something similar, but in general, UAD is not made for PCs. I actually got a suggestion from both UAD and the distributor in Canada to buy a MAC. Well, thanks=85I just need a spare kidney to sell for a good, music production - capable MAC laptop Does it's job well, but built flimsy by MJ from San Jose, CA. July 11, 2009 Music Background: "Prosumer" - Semi Pro Guitarist, Project Studio Engineer, Live Sound, with 26 yrs of experience. I received one of the first of these that Sweetwater received from UA last week (beginning of July), after waiting for it since March. Functionality: I give this 5 stars - does exactly... read more [+] what it's supposed to, set up is completely fool-proof, even as I already had multiple plugins on my quad card (was easy to link them to this card). This definitely works great on my '09 mac book pro. Build Quality: Completely shoddy. This card feels like one accidental bump against it while in the slot and it would break in half very easy. Most of the card is plastic, and where the plastic joins the metal seems like it will break within 6 months.... we'll see, but for 500 bucks for a card I expect it to be top notch build quality. UA makes great stuff and excellent hardware on the analog side with excellent build quality - makes me think they outsourced this, and it shows. A comment on the packaging: This tiny little card and set of 3 cds came in a ridiculously large box from UA - the same box my quad card came in. COME ON UA, BE MORE ENVIRONMENTAL - You're practically in Santa Cruz for god's sake, the mecca of contemporary environmentalism!!! A note on Supply Chain Mgt. - ALWAYS HAVE MULTIPLE VENDORS LINED UP FOR KEY COMPONENTS! I heard the vendor they went with originally to make the board in this went out of business, and this was the reason for the long delay. They had to scramble to find another vendor. This is a rookie move, and shows me that they may be growing faster than they are maturing their business practices. Take my advice, don't dilute your good name with shoddy quality and promises you can't keep. As a wise man once said, "The sting of poor quality lasts a lot longer than the sting of steep costs." All in all a good functioning product that may be a little overpriced, but if you're sold on UA plugins (which are great), then this will be for you. close [-] On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:37 PM, wrote: > > RE: UA plugins. never had a problem, =A0but then, I'm using there stuff a= s > mix down tools, as they were intended to be used. So perhaps as Charles > said they aren't as well suited to real time manipulation. As far as > latency goes, I honestly haven't had that issue. =A0I'm curious, =A0Louie= , > were these user reviews or a published review? I take most gear blog site > reviews with a grain of salt. To me places like the gear page are > virtually useless, as you never know how much info is based on people who > really know what they are doing with the technology, and how much is base= d > on those =A0for whom the old saying "its a poor carpenter who blames his > tools" applies . LD is one of the few sites where are a good number of > people really do know what they are doing and are able to articulate it. > But there are plenty of sites like the gear page where people spew all > kinds of opinions not necessarily based on facts. Sometimes I try to talk > myself out of wanting a piece of gear because of the sticker shock alone, > so i'll go looking for negative reviews to reinforce my opinion. =A0I rea= lly > didn't want to like the new Moog lap steel, because its nearly $3000!!!!, > but after playing it for about an hour at the Moog factory on Friday, its > absolute coolness totally changed my opinion. now i just have to find a > bank to rob. I resisted an Eventide time factor because i thought $400 fo= r > a delay pedal was a bit exorbitant. But sometimes you do get what you pay > for. > Bill > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 23:51:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28D61834A0; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:51:10 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:51:13 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:31 PM, andy butler wrote: > Simeon Harris wrote: >> I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. >=20 > It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. I'm aware that there are a few things that just aren't possible and that = many of the other things I want could be done if the controller were = sophisticated enough to model the state of the LP1 (and really annoying = in cases where the model and the LP1 got into a disagreement) but that = requires a really sophisticated controller. I also know that it fits = pretty much exactly with the playback and general loop manipulation = capabilities of the LP1, so it's a matter of how it gets controlled = rather than what it does -- not to say that's easy. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 20 23:52:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA4A41834A1; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:52:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <2gK-5B.A.DwF.XNphNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:52:55 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:31 PM, andy butler wrote: >=20 >> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. >>=20 >> It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. >=20 > I'm aware that there are a few things that just aren't possible and = that many of the other things I want could be done if the controller = were sophisticated enough to model the state of the LP1 (and really = annoying in cases where the model and the LP1 got into a disagreement) = but that requires a really sophisticated controller. I also know that it = fits pretty much exactly with the playback and general loop manipulation = capabilities of the LP1, so it's a matter of how it gets controlled = rather than what it does -- not to say that's easy. But I was really pleased when I figured out how to map most of the = functionality I care about to a reasonable number of switches. But then = I'm stuck with the gulf between those switches and the actual looping = machinery. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 00:08:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EFC218349D; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=UOKFJLI1i4jyYD67qIkNqgO50cHmApp7J+YMgIuRHbg=; b=pW1WVTuNfZnGJ3896D3+jqUadsjP7T+fhfCZphKT4FlqUbm3ito4oQsXjqluSp24XD r9q08qgO16e2VCBU1Ovdb3/G60IcoYUptIrEFgnqE1qIbqvuk5U0fxaTuEyqsxsZgUuS t/ElDf7NWxcPR+WqIHYNVdO0gPho2w2W+2/Hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=ZNz78UZJIxJ0hJ9nHcJK7bQJK+AJjHKaZXcdZRsU8O5qMaVhLwMO+G7dEnK6VS7Rxr PwyDhJ9j+XCdhWvlCa+JWaNCFNZVMJL8eMjp7W5D/yj9kgsN/UCFQIp6HbiVn6U1V96a +1/9e1g7szM+9Edi2hyAV5umcUwTo1ElQxtek= Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> From: Simeon Harris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <02ACEB4F-3499-41C6-A1E3-62367E73B61F@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:10:42 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:08:41 +0000 (UTC) With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You jus= t write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then= do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the beha= viours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible wi= th the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can= model a looper within it.=20 Sent from my iPod On 20 Mar 2011, at 23:52, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:31 PM, andy butler wrote: >>=20 >>> Simeon Harris wrote: >>>> I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. >>>=20 >>> It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. >>=20 >> I'm aware that there are a few things that just aren't possible and that m= any of the other things I want could be done if the controller were sophisti= cated enough to model the state of the LP1 (and really annoying in cases whe= re the model and the LP1 got into a disagreement) but that requires a really= sophisticated controller. I also know that it fits pretty much exactly with= the playback and general loop manipulation capabilities of the LP1, so it's= a matter of how it gets controlled rather than what it does -- not to say t= hat's easy. >=20 > But I was really pleased when I figured out how to map most of the functio= nality I care about to a reasonable number of switches. But then I'm stuck w= ith the gulf between those switches and the actual looping machinery. >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 02:45:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2CFC18349D; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3F0572E2-D689-4E49-8BBE-DE31B676CAE6@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Revfever Subject: semi OT: M.O.C. Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:45:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.4 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net X-Spam-Level: **** Resent-Message-ID: <947PlC.A.aMC.MvrhNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Been around since 1999. News to me. This is very beautiful and moving. Looping in a hospital room or at someone's bedside anyone? There needs to be more branches of MOC opened all over, and everywhere. Please pass this on.... TIA! http://www.musiciansoncall.org/site/PageNavigator/home Cheerios, Rev. Stevie Fever Portland, OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 04:49:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2541834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 04:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <02ACEB4F-3499-41C6-A1E3-62367E73B61F@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:49:04 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <02ACEB4F-3499-41C6-A1E3-62367E73B61F@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 04:49:09 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. = You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this = state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to = script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This = is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most = sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it.=20 However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer = based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 07:19:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE5711834A2; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 898135.8615.bm@omp1038.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300691996; bh=GMzU7rAHiVWPB7CmlD7rf6GyZqGqOPgJtRDDIlWpD7M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=izfPCd17IPLhEjfOa+bn25y7dkXHZHuGfGwJMVeOHRhz3KP2FM67dx94u65D4DAEfWPY8AM7R5lvjclsY8/djyYL0s9wOF1GKuJraKy5G0Jc4aK7Jo+QlgVPSKN1NTN5ubGlRKwK/9ogVo2QBnEGvD1VMiJ0aYC7V27zColxbcM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IiVRk05KuoiCMHAo97fP5vbbrgU3lOZurNVYJvRAIvGwokiA+uuW9HM6OlYko6S7fAzKgmbVOwSHpKoTIrwa9xEbeqYUVGb5g92PfPyiHBIefWzaLktCNDdCJLvpYA9D6qacd8OrhoRCOtmGRpMUG1mPLCVB+YqAn+ALBHYMPlI=; Message-ID: <806108.66636.qm@web120709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Aw_uOx8VM1kUso2Zzu5lxVu2JaCscnxFsq5MPsKcAR.XR.y yXU1MiVdyGJ8fQcsw8gsHCNdUlpbG8Sr95IfGOuyWyL.KZ68xXseHW9BaPqx 0ZBPiOShC6X1BVbgJp3q.G4yjPRrC0.ao5_zfp3wJFzXxs9slmEkxT.3hGuh pyLl7KZ8IZ9Qhq.WTPVEysOhnGuuXSifFSRaEPVIWzW0U6fr2Qx9WEFUNzHl OJM.UANtsMXke1OGZqrSzU2lm7u_HQj6Kra2_..HLdpJczVxtC8XyiLVwydH CMo9FVRPTRUz3UKAe5DIU20dYmr4YsRVDyw7hVCcm57CPIZjzB6uZbhg1_6C c_8rfwJFJ8t8TYQpRKQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <02ACEB4F-3499-41C6-A1E3-62367E73B61F@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-493131554-1300691996=:66636" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:19:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-493131554-1300691996=:66636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what is the most sophisticated floor controller anyway? An how does the LP1 being a rack go in the wrong direction. I missed the beginning of this thread... Antony ________________________________ From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 5:49:04 AM Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just >write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do >this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours >you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 >and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper >within it. > However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... Mark --0-493131554-1300691996=:66636 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
what is the most sophisticated floor controller anyway? An how does the LP1 being a rack go in the wrong direction. 
I missed the beginning of this thread...

Antony

From: Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 5:49:04 AM
Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper

On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it.

However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction....

Mark


--0-493131554-1300691996=:66636-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 09:20:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A52B31834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585634457/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.249/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmUCAGa1hk1YbRH5/2dsb2JhbAAMGphMzW6Cc4JwBJAs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,218,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="585634457" Message-ID: <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:19:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:31 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. >> It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. > > I'm aware that there are a few things that just aren't possible The only foot controller anywhere near to doing what you want would be from the Gordius range. It doesn't have the button layout you want. It *may* be possible to emulate your track grouping ideas with it. I'll have to check if I can force it to do a shortpress/longpress.....no midi controller does that, but the Gordius might be programmable to emulate it...I should check. Even then, the shortpress/longpress in the EDP were very carefully worked out by Matthias. The shortpress function is *always* called, so you need to pick one that isn't going to annoy you if you want the longpress. So what it the extent that your ideas are realisable? 1) Button layout. Hardware doesn't exist. 2) Loop groupings. Probably possible with a gordius unit. Would have to create a different bank for each grouping. 3) longpress/shortpress. Some of your suggestions are workable. ...but whether Gordius will support them I'll find out, ...........if you're interested. 4) Multi-function on Rec/Dub. Not practical. 5) Some functions are plainly not supported by looperlative. 6) absence of a Mute/Stop switch will drive you crazy eventually. Best is to spend time with the LP1 and get to know the feel of the functions that it *does* have ;-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 09:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744FE1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hEB8D3NmRj6caBgRenhx7s0n67tDHrwKkKYVZAVrFAs=; b=H19SkL4Xqc4ZeqPUD4dQn7qF2+Rd9aoJgreER6yW2Aaak3OGKQWiNGW11+OrRm+tJT q4GQbFOc6tnvbAkCe6/ZN5K+pXdrnTEOaEo1VwLtbB6ljb65IzvffMajDGDHDmvLcXUc 8QKRAHG70Ekkc80VmTFJ9+bFCGCUP4nimh85w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Nxf103JPXE6nUFYnjEg7CGGAGYZb6ZrjnonOHUcCOQfa6tcwsQRWT/S5Z7QT07/bqW Mhmx+FBgDca8wd3bNf3O7hosgeLZ+i/OTM++e0FuZlMkF7DNwQsfMl2wmrWzMEB5tdMI WLBKSHQZYoFCKJqi7EvLxlcR5HdXi5jRKx25I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:29:45 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7098ca75273049efac48e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7098ca75273049efac48e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is good advice, but it seems to me that mark has spent a great deal of time thinking about his preferred workflow and figuring out exactly what he wants to do. it's this functionality that i've been focusing on. as we know, the lp-1 doesn't support some of this functionality and we think that a footcontroller may not exist that does what mark wants. mark can follow this path to it's logical end, or look at other options. i suggested mobius, because it will run on almost any laptop and you can use almost any footswitch with it and with a bit of creative scripting arrive at a point where most (if not all...perhaps with one or two tweaks) of the functionality that mark wants is available to him. i know that using a laptop may not be mark's preferred M.O., but we're talking about mark's "dream looper" here. surely the function has to take precedence over the form? sim On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:19 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > Best is to spend time with the LP1 and get to know > the feel of the functions that it *does* have ;-) > > andy butler > > > --000e0cd7098ca75273049efac48e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is good advice, but it seems to me that mark has spent a great deal of= time thinking about his preferred workflow and figuring out exactly what h= e wants to do. it's this functionality that i've been focusing on. = as we know, the lp-1 doesn't support some of this functionality and we = think that a footcontroller may not exist that does what mark wants. mark c= an follow this path to it's logical end, or look at other options. i su= ggested mobius, because it will run on almost any laptop and you can use al= most any footswitch with it and with a bit of creative scripting arrive at = a point where most (if not all...perhaps with one or two tweaks) of the fun= ctionality that mark wants is available to him. i know that using a laptop = may not be mark's preferred M.O., but we're talking about mark'= s "dream looper" here. surely the function has to take precedence= over the form?

sim

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:19 AM,= andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Best is to spend time with the LP1 and get to know
the feel of the functions that it *does* have ;-)

andy butler



--000e0cd7098ca75273049efac48e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 14:02:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9282A1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:02:32 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:02:35 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:19 AM, andy butler wrote: > Best is to spend time with the LP1 and get to know > the feel of the functions that it *does* have ;-) Other than the desire to link scramble to the quantize factor and have = that selectable via MIDI and the desire to be a bit more specific about = where a copy goes, the Looperlative does do virtually all of this. But = to make it do it, I would need a controller with a lot more buttons and = I would need to pay more attention to the necessary press sequences both = of which mean that the features probably just won't get used that much. On the short press v long press front, I tried to carefully pick = operations for the short press that could either be essentially prefixes = of the long press -- a la the EDP -- or could wait to initiate until = button release. Many of the combinations of behaviors -- e.g., the long = press to undo -- I got from other loopers but I'd have to go look to see = what. (It may have been the LP2. It could be the Digitech Jamman.) But I think the message is that I'm blowing out the = control/configuration capabilities of MIDI foot controllers and the LP1. = This is where carefully honed experiences like the EDP and the Boomerang = have an advantage. Mark P.S. While looking at my M13, the slightly simpler thing I would want = and that I wish Line 6 would build: * Make the loopers stereo * Give me four of them in the box, switch selectable via the top row of = buttons * Give me a multiply button to replicate a loop * Provide appropriate cycle syncing between the loopers (but make it = optional for those times when you don't want things synced) * Make Undo a per loop thing so that for any loop I can essentially have = two versions though only based on including or not including the last = overdub. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 14:49:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AC7B1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 592512987/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.17.249/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.17.249 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQCAHYCh01YbRH5/2dsb2JhbAAMmGeWRLd6hWMEkCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,219,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="592512987" Message-ID: <4D87658C.5040009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:49:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > > P.S. While looking at my M13, the slightly simpler thing I would want and that I wish Line 6 would build: > > * Make the loopers stereo > * Give me four of them in the box, switch selectable via the top row of buttons > * Give me a multiply button to replicate a loop > * Provide appropriate cycle syncing between the loopers (but make it optional for those times when you don't want things synced) > * Make Undo a per loop thing so that for any loop I can essentially have two versions though only based on including or not including the last overdub. So the Line 6 team gets a much simplified challenge compared to the Looperlative team. Undo does not really give you 2 versions, it gives you an overdub which can be switched on/off. Hence that can be achieved by recording to a different track, and simply switching that track on/off. I wonder if there's a looping device which would achieve the above requirement ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 15:43:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39C741834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20110321092947.13A9C1834A8@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20110321092947.13A9C1834A8@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:40:46 -0700 Subject: was:tape delay plug ins, now user reviews From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: "Louie Angulo" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <1PH-u.A.D1C.5I3hNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) These are exactly the kinds of user reviews that i find suspect, the first one sounds like someone who has little patience and even less skill with a computer. And who knows how well this person manages their ram, cpu usage, or how optimized for music performance their computer is, i.e. how many none music related programs are they running that is dragging down their machine. and the second review ......any kind of dongle type lap top add on is vulnerable to getting wacked, its the nature of the beast and one reason I haven't gone lap top yet, its such a ridiculously vulnerable platform in that regard. drop a lap top on a concrete floor and there is a strong likelihood its toast. I'm sorry Louie but these kinds of responses reinforce my feeling that a little knowledge is dangerous. And that consumers often have a tendency these days to fly off the handle when they can't get there new toys to work properly. I have worked both in music retail and manufacturing long enough to realize that 95% of these kinds of issues are related to pilot error, not the product. From my own personal experience most of my computer related problems come from my own lack of knowledge of the platform not the platform itself. Another part of the equation has to do with leading edge technology, and compatibility issues with trailing edge computers. If you want to play it safe, wait a few months for the bugs to get ironed out and compatibility issues are resolved . My windows based, mainframe computer at home has no problem with my UAD card, but its a card not a dongle and is internally mounted. As i mentioned before,I know the guys at UA, they are not in the business of making inferior products, they actually give a shit about things like quality control and ease of use. I think the point I was making is that user reviews cannot always be counted on to be subjective or even rational. How else do you account for the common occurrence I see on sites like Harmony central where several glowing reviews are followed by some angry trashing review, where someone disses a product that everyone else is heralding. I saw one once where the guy talked shit about a product and only at the end of the review did he admit he had dropped the product on concrete and broke it. Another thing that happens on these site is rival manufacturers will plant bogus negative reviews , after all there is no over sight on sites like this to prevent them from doing so. I've seen a number of negative reviews on HC written by a guy named anonymous :-) I just don't trust user reviews unless its from people I know and respect or the positive reviews far out number the negative. And to be candid I don't shop on Amazon, unless its absolutely the only choice. I don't believe in them as a company and they tend to be a clearing house for overstock or folding businesses anyway so you are rarely sure if the warranty issues will be covered. BTW any price you see below MAP on Amazon is a vendor who is in violation of the manufacturers MAP policy and there is a good chance you can't get warranty coverage if something malfunctions.. If price is your only consideration, go for it and shop Amazon, but buyer beware...... good luck Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 16:22:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67AC31834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IJ8U0WJf0tP9dqhM1AmW8DganSN5fPvk/quIa56QwzA=; b=RiSlhfiYv/8UF6GH8cC/Y7hdq/Z/bAzMrV5k5U4Phm56vBfUAPcNCBAHCYMTe+hN4P YeidRax30eWybs0cCI3uGICOCck3uV9ihnrcOdVUpXvW4Z63liMLKjpy6uaEuSV91n+6 aQq4rT1ffgVArwjpB1AylCcVYcHq3AKrkh4qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=abUVA5/Z37sDFmirIM0sKC2oXGEr6a8RzX/F4tB7MSqlcxO8YCdoeQHYSWTlQEpbjV OJwKK9isjLyO1G81fzvP2x1WK9ekaZ1dV18PB7jNH4UOCIYaXIEoQ9zEWbSYOS7sGlaC ejSd712OWQnEyq8ET66uDbQTTgj/oGF0QvZZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20110321092947.13A9C1834A8@arsenic.violacea.com> <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was:tape delay plug ins, now user reviews From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:22:03 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, wrote: > These are exactly the kinds of user reviews that i find suspect, =C2=A0th= e > first one sounds like someone who has little patience and even less skill > with a computer. Found no link to the reviews you're talking about? Whenever reading a review, it is good to first find out whether the writer is really talking about the product or talking about himself. In case of the latter, probably without knowing it :-) As for the earlier discussion about the UAD plugins I said they are top quality studio tools. Any discussion about latency in this regard would simply be moot, as (already pointed out by someone else) a DAW applications compensates for plugin latency so you won't ever notice it when producing recorded music. However, playing a live audio input through such plugins will of course give latency because the computer can not look into the future or read your mind to know in advance what sound will arrive at the input during the next thirty seven milliseconds. A good place for reading reviews is Harmonic Central's user reviews. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 17:07:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFDCB1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3vpavBEs4+SiMxTAGqnX5pG8JTBNVF2tr80O8IimQjw=; b=PAl+LOzMTIZXc1vasxqhGwFFFu32nm4wsKYEtroN5+XnG5ELCK9k/Ul2ODAJvJcCMk SKNne5LdEOU7uiYz7LR/kn+hPlVrbBTKdbgVDTzPvyL2K+2eogEk8qqlthpqv0P63hj/ OKnln/ePvZFPgVlrif5BC0mlToNmSpAyRKzQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=plETkA1tqIWAREn/WsAvH9Fv2P4NWcOs25Tcb/nFuWbWM+3JEYDX6I0fTVd4kL/as8 n2ptSLaLkD9xollPPmeG3fu+LF+yUvh+ZlLqSv5+Vit+BonqqNpEmegAAG+ETo/Ksqu4 LUYOjwMZTlLRwno+qPeh4Vkq8TjliYDLbz29c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110321092947.13A9C1834A8@arsenic.violacea.com> <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:05:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was:tape delay plug ins, now user reviews From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51a89962f5007049f0122fa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:07:17 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51a89962f5007049f0122fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > A good place for reading reviews *was* Harmonic Central's user reviews *until > they wrecked them beyond recognition*. > FTFY ;) --bcaec51a89962f5007049f0122fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--bcaec51a89962f5007049f0122fa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 17:39:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1A9D1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:39:06 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:39:15 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. > However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... > > Mark But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, Mark. Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want, specifically, let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob Amstadt did when he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardware when he designed the LP-1. Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable piece of hardware looping gear ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it even has the potential to add new functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in the user base. Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. It just doesn't have long press capability. Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last private letter to you. The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day one. Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal configuration sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 17:46:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195561834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=hkYn5dVt+wffO1xtGDAG76szEusiuMScZtPbpaVkzi4=; b=Vk1AYn1+zziwCURnGwYTMzVzpg+ydce4tUortiafv5cYvFoppRirXJ9EmtEPKkKNuv KjEXIkQ/63ilkjmct4e+egV/TJJJ6/ElaNC8AzkUvDGSQSDlyDCKWoCoCVmDpztsTrMA 2GKbmgY11sDsA81/AOnqPFuP1UeUKcxUrTwXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=HuEVbVOpuc5foMzQk1eGp+Fxfo6D7JxUy2dgGHjYotcPUOs6PAy+XTeHmN9M2GLTnN tFFIxgVzyYyhVFPZSKRcJ40s1aU6UrN07AaXmd0Y7fuP6Yv1WLXd7LoPmjGe6/pFpDqw uKlzadW+OSh7uftzhIy4kjEybv1dic25BsbFc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:50:58 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9525AF8D-7B32-47FD-9E7B-58B06770771B@gmail.com> References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:46:50 +0000 (UTC) > That's the beautiful nature of the beast. It's just a beast.=20 Maybe one day, if I tame it, I will think it beautiful. But until then, = it's simply a beast that feeds on my time and steals musical moments at = every opportunity.=20 But alas, the truly beautiful simplicity of the EDP hardware unit wasn't = enough for me anymore.=20 So... stuck in limbo.=20 I've watched many a hardware/software debate on this list and I still = think software will eventually win. When it deserves it by being simple = enough to master within a few short years.=20 Until then... it's a beast, and being a beast is it's nature. There's = nothing beautiful about it.=20 On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>=20 >>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. = You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this = state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to = script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This = is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most = sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. >> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a = computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong = direction.... >>=20 >> Mark > But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic = design/requests for a looper, Mark. > Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish = what you want, specifically, > let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world = wants. >=20 > You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own = looper as Bob Amstadt did when > he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in = hardware when he designed the > LP-1. >=20 > Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear > ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it = even has the potential to add new > functionality through continuing software design if there is a = consensus in the user base. >=20 > Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not = accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. > It just doesn't have long press capability. >=20 > Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my = last private letter to you. > The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that = from day one. >=20 > Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi = footpedal configuration > sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require = a lot of hard work on your part > to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful = nature of the beast. >=20 > rick walker >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 17:54:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F56D1834A0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oM1h03Ol7jgN2HrHh+CupQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-21_06:2011-03-16,2011-03-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103210111 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 10:54:38 -0700 In-reply-to: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> Message-id: <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_oM1h03Ol7jgN2HrHh+CupQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT " It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast." Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it holds for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to endless workflow design possibilities. IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements. Great potential-Great Challenge. No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW. See you in the wee hours. Daniel On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> >>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. >> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... >> >> Mark > But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, Mark. > Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want, specifically, > let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. > > You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob Amstadt did when > he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardware when he designed the > LP-1. > > Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable piece of hardware looping gear > ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it even has the potential to add new > functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in the user base. > > Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. > It just doesn't have long press capability. > > Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last private letter to you. > The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day one. > > Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal configuration > sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lot of hard work on your part > to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast. > > rick walker > --Boundary_(ID_oM1h03Ol7jgN2HrHh+CupQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable " It = will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going = the way you want, though.   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast."

Ain't that the truth!  Wether it be HW = or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. =  The great potential that it holds for music and for video is = matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang = our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets = one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to = endless workflow design possibilities.  IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius = live up to these statements.  Great potential-Great Challenge. =   

No matter what your platform, (i = prefer them all :)  the price of admission to create unique and = idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  Thats not to say = that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you = want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own = compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a = very big way.  I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the = "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping = platform...HW or SW.

See you in the wee = hours.

Daniel =   


On Mar = 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
On = Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within = it.
However even = as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution = seems to go even further in the wrong = direction....

Mark
But you have very, very sophisticated = and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, = Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER = accomplish what you want, specifically,
let alone what every single = other sophisticated looper in the world wants.

You are going to = have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob = Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that = were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

Given = that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured. =    Will it do everything,  no,  but it even has = the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software = design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally, =  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a = large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press = capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 = as I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for = everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day = one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a = sophisticated midi footpedal configuration
sound like it's the = closest to what you want to do.    It will require a lot = of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, = though.   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast.

rick = walker


= --Boundary_(ID_oM1h03Ol7jgN2HrHh+CupQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:11:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4411834A0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=Uw7Zmto7bTzMLDSPodQTD6XFHqx5mzen6rLPnD6lz+0=; b=M2I029XscIWFcZ2cPZssLN04drqaGi2eZOdIS0l5anZaf7Z9nt6DIsiBY/eQL1UsqS UI4ipzI7J7cLpNtN238psaCNMzYedx+To6hZr53Xe9JrFY3659CHtfPmW425BlVtFfIZ e1h5I+BK/CtHqWMJO5d+9aaUCwOkFh2aSXJXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=jjdxnicaeF7+IN0Tz/5iDVSiMkB6Sel/FtDVQ5ThXEf9u+J3RIaGX7C+sCZydE12Z9 IVlHo4QX912EzEZctK4N12zqS4Rlstj/BayHxVF56x/fr0wChuPXyVHX6HC3Tp69j166 6CvZpVoehWCkPVVOmR8MZAWFdgxu3+d2xdZKs= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-301599428 Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:15:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> Message-Id: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-301599428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a = looper is often high. =20 > if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your = own compositional style,=20 > you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way.=20 Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the spirit = of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under = performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian = software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion = that ease-of-use must be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function. =20 The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her = own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND = software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of = aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams.=20 I, for one, am pissed at this point. On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > " It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going = the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast." >=20 > Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the = bleeding edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it = holds for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of = standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to = get a grip on a workflow that meets one's unique needs and, in the same = stroke, it opens the field to endless workflow design possibilities. = IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements. Great = potential-Great Challenge. =20 >=20 > No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of = admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often = high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a = delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that = facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the = midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of = dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any = looping platform...HW or SW. >=20 > See you in the wee hours. >=20 > Daniel =20 >=20 >=20 > On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>>=20 >>>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. >>> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a = computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong = direction.... >>>=20 >>> Mark >> But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic = design/requests for a looper, Mark. >> Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish = what you want, specifically, >> let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world = wants. >>=20 >> You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own = looper as Bob Amstadt did when >> he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in = hardware when he designed the >> LP-1. >>=20 >> Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear >> ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but = it even has the potential to add new >> functionality through continuing software design if there is a = consensus in the user base. >>=20 >> Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not = accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. >> It just doesn't have long press capability. >>=20 >> Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my = last private letter to you. >> The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that = from day one. >>=20 >> Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi = footpedal configuration >> sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will = require a lot of hard work on your part >> to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful = nature of the beast. >>=20 >> rick walker >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-301599428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii must = be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function.  

The original = poster (aka the sophisticated looper)  must make his/her own only = until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software = DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating = glitches that hold us back from realizing our = dreams. 

I, for one, am pissed at this = point.



On Mar 21, 2011, = at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

" It will require a lot of hard = work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. =   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast."

Ain't that the truth!  Wether it be HW = or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. =  The great potential that it holds for music and for video is = matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang = our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets = one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to = endless workflow design possibilities.  IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius = live up to these statements.  Great potential-Great Challenge. =   

No matter what your platform, (i = prefer them all :)  the price of admission to create unique and = idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  Thats not to say = that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you = want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own = compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a = very big way.  I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the = "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping = platform...HW or SW.

See you in the wee = hours.

Daniel =   


On Mar = 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
On = Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within = it.
However even = as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution = seems to go even further in the wrong = direction....

Mark
But you have very, very sophisticated = and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, = Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER = accomplish what you want, specifically,
let alone what every single = other sophisticated looper in the world wants.

You are going to = have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob = Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that = were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

Given = that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured. =    Will it do everything,  no,  but it even has = the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software = design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally, =  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a = large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press = capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 = as I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for = everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day = one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a = sophisticated midi footpedal configuration
sound like it's the = closest to what you want to do.    It will require a lot = of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, = though.   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast.

rick = walker


=
= --Apple-Mail-2-301599428-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:22:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C986C1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_gW7QEyURooV6xj16viLd0g)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-21_06:2011-03-16,2011-03-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103210114 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:22:18 -0700 In-reply-to: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> Message-id: <2AA943F4-8081-4A0F-953B-AFA048D5E29F@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <_h3s6C.A.ZIG.cd5hNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:22:20 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_gW7QEyURooV6xj16viLd0g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I, for one, am pissed at this point. I for one, am no good at the forum thing. To each his own. D On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > > > the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. > > if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compositional style, > > you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. > > > Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-use must be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function. > > The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. > > I, for one, am pissed at this point. > > > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > >> " It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast." >> >> Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it holds for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to endless workflow design possibilities. IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements. Great potential-Great Challenge. >> >> No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW. >> >> See you in the wee hours. >> >> Daniel >> >> >> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>>> >>>>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. >>>> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... >>>> >>>> Mark >>> But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, Mark. >>> Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want, specifically, >>> let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. >>> >>> You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob Amstadt did when >>> he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardware when he designed the >>> LP-1. >>> >>> Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable piece of hardware looping gear >>> ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it even has the potential to add new >>> functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in the user base. >>> >>> Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. >>> It just doesn't have long press capability. >>> >>> Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last private letter to you. >>> The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day one. >>> >>> Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal configuration >>> sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lot of hard work on your part >>> to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast. >>> >>> rick walker >>> >> > --Boundary_(ID_gW7QEyURooV6xj16viLd0g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
must = be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function.  

The original = poster (aka the sophisticated looper)  must make his/her own only = until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software = DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating = glitches that hold us back from realizing our = dreams. 

I, for one, am pissed at this = point.



On Mar 21, 2011, = at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

" It will require a lot of hard = work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. =   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast."

Ain't that the truth!  Wether it be HW = or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. =  The great potential that it holds for music and for video is = matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang = our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets = one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to = endless workflow design possibilities.  IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius = live up to these statements.  Great potential-Great Challenge. =   

No matter what your platform, (i = prefer them all :)  the price of admission to create unique and = idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  Thats not to say = that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you = want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own = compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a = very big way.  I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the = "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping = platform...HW or SW.

See you in the wee = hours.

Daniel =   


On Mar = 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
On = Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within = it.
However even = as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution = seems to go even further in the wrong = direction....

Mark
But you have very, very sophisticated = and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, = Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER = accomplish what you want, specifically,
let alone what every single = other sophisticated looper in the world wants.

You are going to = have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob = Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that = were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

Given = that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured. =    Will it do everything,  no,  but it even has = the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software = design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally, =  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a = large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press = capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 = as I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for = everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day = one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a = sophisticated midi footpedal configuration
sound like it's the = closest to what you want to do.    It will require a lot = of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, = though.   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast.

rick = walker


=

= --Boundary_(ID_gW7QEyURooV6xj16viLd0g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:24:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 312A51834A0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zRArUutl4fARtxnbGrKbWIwMPBBxqIA/yyoo1yPB46M=; b=o8FF96v63xZT26hRcnLUE8R7Qen7dwfbUy8r4FEFhhdm1YEBoCYkKCZxtG4ihMhz60 yHBhh0wlN0rWSBMZd4xrrI89q67bgQUk17ncF8I3HZ4+TCCIJQ3TDKCwnDZbcJ0VovBi jgOfuZou63Wbxt91LgxItqs0moUK8jqzhcl3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w+8825LCiYp6XaXXUbJB6V6ovtIZrjpQVyBRH7PeDLqSEWaAaSRfEdha4lTLYrNtG9 IzdHT0yCjP/wQ8Q9vmSFwdkbB3zTNDSOUBWj0AmJKSdPf3XLbINE0irvg+k4ZQ86RRDX X38h5mjeHiRTdv1FbMzpnNnYDCGJG9OjOE5Nk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:24:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:24:01 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi > footpedal configuration > sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. Hi guys, Just want to throw in a clarification here: You don't need a sophisticated midi foot pedal with Mobius. But Mobius does indeed allow you to set up sophisticated targets (on the software side, for your midi foot pedal tap dancing), if you are so inclined ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:28:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25ED41834A2; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5tXFcOkNWG7c9E3axPNEYCAZCOrIKRk3nfBjpTTIt1U=; b=rlI8G4vUjDFhlmCS+tE1NS+Q1SrJIgJFc4oMH618kOEM+hSzQgOrspctwRQsmUnEsD Pdr+Vsw1yAJZrSe5CjRw7dhwXdAW7BMjGOXB9V2fYfPSZRsnTX7FJ3CaNA4BCNYNdLlU HOA4v3DaLI/AlHn7a2ED1s/dwoagjj9n1LqHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=hgcGczoM82k67yfDJ3rYqe4dxmpVwz3WpIjSBbt+giajNKjYZliLxAsTEtPkBA0Zri 6HwjKVl5dkZu8OFp5JNwGDH9Evt25itLygDpcERvPNPDCfjkyDXP0UZLqSV6c7EkMWb7 p8hnpTjao+YvzEGPBmdg69HEw/FTOftz2MJrs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:28:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ukDwU2XED29lb4iCc-SIuFgPDsE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Theres really not that much difference between hardware and software, Hardware has broken/dodgy cables Software has drivers/settings both have a learning curve both never quite do what you want them to do both do many things you dont need/want them to do both frustrate the shit outa you both give you wonderful uplifting wow moments and... both need a fucking footpedal.... shiiiit Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:28:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2E3E1834AB; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=GeOUrPGn+CjmcNtWP6i21qnxlWnwva/XrFG/ECJBFFw=; b=T+FjbHb5/0/4DjXi97EX+FqtTEr7vOekmbrHkoLzepSN7js7kPSVDat0SyGEaMhTq9 xJkymyn6RJL/dQE0M033Te1D4rxD65g/SnhI+FL7mD2hAKmYFJcv2mGEbW9VrrInYzVK rSZBc7s9fqtCFiCBpl9VdPimL2jGBT0yjaqRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Q1HHKZCLSo63Ug4qTkNyS3LFhSGuFEMIxiKnu8tu5ntw0Rb1tdr24NQ6UAzuxhLL3p +BFlC/klwvvDVYYseXkYrb4LIcX5MX+YMV6YaGmazAN4yos4NIM4NnEedEitLjQtGBI6 P3tTiz9bJphF92jiPvBDmY2QFBJ1GoySwP/oI= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-302616360 Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:32:43 -0700 In-Reply-To: <2AA943F4-8081-4A0F-953B-AFA048D5E29F@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> <2AA943F4-8081-4A0F-953B-AFA048D5E29F@mac.com> Message-Id: <3A50C975-2A72-432A-8E68-EFCAB8B6215D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:28:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-302616360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You're awesome Daniel. I assure you, I believe midnight oil is required = and expected and respect you all the more if you made it to where you = need to be.=20 I simply meant to express that for some of us, even with many, many = moons of midnight oil, we're still left wanting and not always because = our requests are unreasonable. In fact, if everything worked as = advertised there would be much more looping going on and much less tech = talk.=20 I'm so frustrated with it I... well, am giving up for another summer.=20 Maybe next year I can call myself a looper again.=20 Believe me, I've tried. And I'm tech savvy. But there's just too many = broken tools.=20 On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> I, for one, am pissed at this point. >=20 > I for one, am no good at the forum thing.=20 >=20 > To each his own. >=20 > D > On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> > the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with = a looper is often high. =20 >> > if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your = own compositional style,=20 >> > you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the = spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology = under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian = software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion = that ease-of-use must be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function. =20 >>=20 >> The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her = own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND = software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of = aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams.=20 >>=20 >> I, for one, am pissed at this point. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >>=20 >>> " It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all = going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the = beast." >>>=20 >>> Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the = bleeding edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it = holds for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of = standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to = get a grip on a workflow that meets one's unique needs and, in the same = stroke, it opens the field to endless workflow design possibilities. = IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements. Great = potential-Great Challenge. =20 >>>=20 >>> No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of = admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often = high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a = delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that = facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the = midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of = dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any = looping platform...HW or SW. >>>=20 >>> See you in the wee hours. >>>=20 >>> Daniel =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >>>>> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it. >>>>> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a = computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong = direction.... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Mark >>>> But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic = design/requests for a looper, Mark. >>>> Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish = what you want, specifically, >>>> let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world = wants. >>>>=20 >>>> You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your = own looper as Bob Amstadt did when >>>> he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available = in hardware when he designed the >>>> LP-1. >>>>=20 >>>> Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most = configurable piece of hardware looping gear >>>> ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but = it even has the potential to add new >>>> functionality through continuing software design if there is a = consensus in the user base. >>>>=20 >>>> Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not = accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. >>>> It just doesn't have long press capability. >>>>=20 >>>> Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my = last private letter to you. >>>> The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about = that from day one. >>>>=20 >>>> Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated = midi footpedal configuration >>>> sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will = require a lot of hard work on your part >>>> to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the = beautiful nature of the beast. >>>>=20 >>>> rick walker >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-302616360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I, for one, am pissed at = this point.

I for one, am no good = at the forum thing. 

To each his = own.

D
On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:15 = AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:

must = be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function.  

The original = poster (aka the sophisticated looper)  must make his/her own only = until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software = DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating = glitches that hold us back from realizing our = dreams. 

I, for one, am pissed at this = point.



On Mar 21, 2011, = at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:

" It will require a lot of hard = work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. =   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast."

Ain't that the truth!  Wether it be HW = or SW, looping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow. =  The great potential that it holds for music and for video is = matched by a near total absence of standard workflows upon which to hang = our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that meets = one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to = endless workflow design possibilities.  IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius = live up to these statements.  Great potential-Great Challenge. =   

No matter what your platform, (i = prefer them all :)  the price of admission to create unique and = idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  Thats not to say = that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you = want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own = compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a = very big way.  I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the = "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping = platform...HW or SW.

See you in the wee = hours.

Daniel =   


On Mar = 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
On = Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris = wrote:

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the = controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius = is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd = just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current = conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the = most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within = it.
However even = as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution = seems to go even further in the wrong = direction....

Mark
But you have very, very sophisticated = and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, = Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER = accomplish what you want, specifically,
let alone what every single = other sophisticated looper in the world wants.

You are going to = have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob = Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that = were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

Given = that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured. =    Will it do everything,  no,  but it even has = the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software = design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally, =  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a = large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press = capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 = as I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for = everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day = one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a = sophisticated midi footpedal configuration
sound like it's the = closest to what you want to do.    It will require a lot = of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, = though.   That's the beautiful nature of the = beast.

rick = walker


=


= --Apple-Mail-3-302616360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:29:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9CE51834A5; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_42ee36fe-506b-4e49-985f-a554c659483a_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.182.42] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:28:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com>,<0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2011 18:28:59.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8B7F790:01CBE7F5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) --_42ee36fe-506b-4e49-985f-a554c659483a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the problem with being at the cutting edge though isn't it?=20 Nobody makes us do it - I have moments of frustration but maybe we should b= e glad that these options are available... Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ From: thedarrow@gmail.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Mon=2C 21 Mar 2011 11:15:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a loo= per is often high. > if you want to innovate performance workflows that f= acilitate your own compositional style=2C > you may have to buck up the mi= dnight oil in a very big way.=20 Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel=2C I understand and respect the spirit = of your post=2C I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under perfo= rming=2C half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian software th= at excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-us= e must be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function= . =20 The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her own o= nly until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software = DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating glitche= s that hold us back from realizing our dreams.=20 I=2C for one=2C am pissed at this point. On Mar 21=2C 2011=2C at 10:54 AM=2C Daniel Thomas wrote:" It will require a= lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want=2C thou= gh. That's the beautiful nature of the beast." Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW=2C looping remains the bleedin= g edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it holds for= music and for video is matched by a near total absence of standard workflo= ws upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a wor= kflow that meets one's unique needs and=2C in the same stroke=2C it opens t= he field to endless workflow design possibilities. IMO=2C Both LP-1 and Mo= bius live up to these statements. Great potential-Great Challenge. =20 No matter what your platform=2C (i prefer them all :) the price of admissi= on to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. Tha= ts not to say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal=2C b= ut if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own c= ompositional style=2C you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very bi= g way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-n= ow-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW. See you in the wee hours. Daniel =20 On Mar 21=2C 2011=2C at 10:39 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote:On 7/22/64 11:59 AM= =2C Mark Hamburg wrote: On Mar 20=2C 2011=2C at 5:10 PM=2C Simeon Harris wrote: With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You ju= st write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state=2C = then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the= behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possi= ble with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor control= ler can model a looper within it. However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1=2C a computer ba= sed solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... Mark But you have very=2C very sophisticated and specific=2C idiosyncratic desig= n/requests for a looper=2C Mark. Honestly=2C how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what y= ou want=2C specifically=2C let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. You are going to have to go with a computer or else=2C design your own loop= er as Bob Amstadt did when he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardw= are when he designed the LP-1. Given that the LP-1 is hardware=2C it is by far=2C the most configurable p= iece of hardware looping gear ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything=2C no=2C but it = even has the potential to add new functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in= the user base. Additionally=2C it is sophisticated that you can get close=2C if not accom= plish=2C a large amount of the things you want. It just doesn't have long press capability. Honestly=2C it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last p= rivate letter to you. The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from = day one. Mobius and a Laptop=2C with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi foot= pedal configuration sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lo= t of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want=2C though. That's the beautiful natu= re of the beast. rick walker = --_42ee36fe-506b-4e49-985f-a554c659483a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the problem with being at the cutting edge though isn't it?
Nobo= dy makes us do it - I have moments of frustration but maybe we should be gl= ad that these options are available...

Peace


Gareth@Senti= entfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



From: thedarrow@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Foot controller for a = dream looper
Date: Mon=2C 21 Mar 2011 11:15:46 -0700
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com


>=3B =3B =3Bthe price of admission to create unique and idiosync= ratic art with a looper is often high.  =3B
>=3B  =3Bif= you want to innovate =3Bperformance workflows that facilitate your = own compositional style=2C =3B
>=3B  =3Byou may hav= e to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. =3B


Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel=2C I understand a= nd respect the spirit of your post=2C I only mean that...) I'm so tired of = technology under performing=2C half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor= /librarian software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE = notion that ease-of-use must be (entirely) thrown out the win= dow to retain complexity-of-function.  =3B

The= original poster (aka the sophisticated looper)  =3Bmust make his/her o= wn only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND softw= are DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating gli= tches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. =3B

I=2C for one=2C am pissed at this point.

=

On Mar 21=2C 2011=2C at 10:54 AM=2C Daniel Thomas w= rote:

" It will require a lot of hard work on your= part =3Bto get it all going the way you want=2C though.  =3B = =3BThat's the beautiful nature of the beast."

Ain't that= the truth!  =3BWether it be HW or SW=2C looping remains the bleeding e= dge of media production workflow.  =3BThe great potential that it holds= for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of standard wor= kflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a= workflow that meets one's unique needs and=2C in the same stroke=2C it ope= ns the field to endless workflow design possibilities.  =3BIMO=2C Both = LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements.  =3BGreat potential-Great = Challenge.  =3B =3B

No matter what your pl= atform=2C (i prefer them all :)  =3Bthe price of admission to create un= ique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  =3BThats not t= o say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal=2C but if yo= u want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compos= itional style=2C you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big= way.  =3BI certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-goin= g-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW= .

See you in the wee hours.

Daniel  =3B =3B


On Mar 21=2C 2011=2C at 10:39 AM=2C Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Mark = Hamburg wrote:
On Mar 20=2C 2011=2C at 5:10 PM=2C Simeon Har= ris wrote:

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. Y= ou just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this stat= e=2C then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to scrip= t the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not = possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor co= ntroller can model a looper within it.
However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1=2C a comput= er based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction....

Mark
Bu= t you have very=2C very sophisticated and specific=2C idiosyncratic design/= requests for a looper=2C Mark.
Honestly=2C  =3Bhow could any dedicat= ed hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want=2C specifically=2C
let = alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants.
<= br>You are going to have to go with a computer or else=2C design your own l= ooper as Bob Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different parad= igms that were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

G= iven that the LP-1 is hardware=2C  =3Bit is by far=2C the most configur= able piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured. &nbs= p=3B =3B =3BWill it do everything=2C  =3Bno=2C  =3Bbut it e= ven has the potential to add new
functionality through continuing softwa= re design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally=2C =  =3Bit is sophisticated that you can get close=2C if not accomplish=2C = a large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press c= apability.

Honestly=2C  =3Bit's okay if you don't use the LP-1 a= s I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for every= one and Bob has been really clear about that from day one.

Mobius an= d a Laptop=2C with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal con= figuration
sound like it's the closest to what you want to do.  =3B&= nbsp=3B =3BIt will require a lot of hard work on your part
to get it= all going the way you want=2C though.  =3B =3BThat's the beautiful= nature of the beast.

rick walker


= --_42ee36fe-506b-4e49-985f-a554c659483a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:29:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 878461834AE; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=hSzvy8VPfs//t2rp7Jfl/Zd0eohyV63lBM2hx22FCro=; b=LDZgeBeJIyEVHwF0OBXVJfU2Ar+AzrXP9JviDIxoHU3wsBzjjtNeQQ73OfriI80oGe c4SMxnBeqRl04ne79mmZHg58MVDeMrbyVIvnuf8Qt1HR+dCbbWAfktXFit0JghbuGN/p jJulbY/5VwVool5hDLq6EMZMHZrvDDXE0OtKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=eVtR1UuuuYVAuR5qCmaaRQ0Ho7tdBIraOVerB3qbkNmhm8HwBfYKcoNpKDlfTGCNOM 1mCiy8qj8sZZ7rayR6Klvjr7EY18TKr49F1l7Tf9xTu51+tm/XSn32YsoBvjAUkxwbS2 fIFPOs7FV9Yzr6pHLXiazxieKqAaQe0iPGcgw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:34:15 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:29:56 +0000 (UTC) > for your midi foot pedal tap dancing), if you are so inclined ;-) Perhaps I'll take another look at that, when I get a second wind (next = fall) as I do actually love the pedal tap dancing.=20 EDP plugin seems to have gone nowhere. (So sad.) On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: >> Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi >> footpedal configuration >> sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. >=20 > Hi guys, >=20 > Just want to throw in a clarification here: You don't need a > sophisticated midi foot pedal with Mobius. But Mobius does indeed > allow you to set up sophisticated targets (on the software side, for > your midi foot pedal tap dancing), if you are so inclined ;-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:48:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0479C1834B1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1300733334-0378c34a18542120001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.85 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Foot controller for a dream looper Thread-Topic: Foot controller for a dream looper X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: Foot controller for a dream looper Thread-Index: AQHL5/XIb6qSKkYrpUOVD95mJEBShpQ4HWVg Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:48:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0309BCWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-01.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.85] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1300733334 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: <2Bjt4.A.-6G.X25hNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:48:56 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0309BCWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The little universe of sophisticated loopers is blessed by the efforts of J= eff Larson and Bob Amstadt. These fellows are not corporate types putting o= ut products in order to make a lot of money.... in Jeff's case, NONE. (Fran= kly, I find some of the salvos aimed at the corporations who make music gea= r misguided, too, but that is perhaps another topic). Chris, I too have been so frustrated, at times, by attempts to stretch the = hardware and software, that I've blamed someone else and been tempted to ve= nt about it. But I'm glad I haven't, because it really comes down to "it's= a poor workman who blames his tools". If sophisticated workflow scheme A d= oesn't work, CHANGE THAT, and then write about how wonderful it would be if= ________ (fill in blank), without attachment to results, and see how the c= ommunity responds. Hal Dean From: Christopher Darrow [mailto:thedarrow@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper > the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a loo= per is often high. > if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own c= ompositional style, > you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the spirit of= your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under performin= g, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian software that exc= uses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-use must= be (entirely) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function. The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her own o= nly until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software = DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating glitche= s that hold us back from realizing our dreams. I, for one, am pissed at this point. On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: " It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the w= ay you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast." Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the bleeding = edge of media production workflow. The great potential that it holds for m= usic and for video is matched by a near total absence of standard workflows= upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workf= low that meets one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the fie= ld to endless workflow design possibilities. IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius liv= e up to these statements. Great potential-Great Challenge. No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of admission= to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. Thats= not to say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but i= f you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compo= sitional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way.= I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-God= s" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW. See you in the wee hours. Daniel On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote: On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You ju= st write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, th= en do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the b= ehaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possibl= e with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controlle= r can model a looper within it. However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer base= d solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... Mark But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/re= quests for a looper, Mark. Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you= want, specifically, let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper= as Bob Amstadt did when he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardw= are when he designed the LP-1. Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable piece= of hardware looping gear ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it even= has the potential to add new functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in= the user base. Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplis= h, a large amount of the things you want. It just doesn't have long press capability. Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last pri= vate letter to you. The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from = day one. Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpe= dal configuration sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lo= t of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature= of the beast. rick walker --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0309BCWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The little universe of so= phisticated loopers is blessed by the efforts of Jeff Larson and Bob Amstad= t. These fellows are not corporate types putting out products in order to make a lot of money…. in Jeff’s case, NONE. (Frank= ly, I find some of the salvos aimed at the corporations who make music gear= misguided, too, but that is perhaps another topic).

 <= /p>

Chris, I too have been so= frustrated, at times, by attempts to stretch the hardware and software, th= at I’ve blamed someone else and been tempted to vent about it.  But I’m glad I haven’t, because it really comes down= to “it’s a poor workman who blames his tools”. If sophis= ticated workflow scheme A doesn’t work, CHANGE THAT, and then write a= bout how wonderful it would be if ________ (fill in blank), without attachm= ent to results, and see how the community responds.

 <= /p>

Hal Dean

 <= /p>

From: Christop= her Darrow [mailto:thedarrow@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 2:16 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper

 

 

>  the price of admission to create uni= que and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high.  

>  if you want to innovate performan= ce workflows that facilitate your own compositional style, 

>  you may have to buck up the midnight oil = in a very big way. 

 

 

Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand an= d respect the spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of tec= hnology under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit e= ditor/librarian software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-use must be = (entirely) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function. &= nbsp;

 

The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) &= nbsp;must make his/her own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their ed= itors in order AND software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the bil= lions of aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. 

 

I, for one, am pissed at this point.

 

 

 

On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:



" It will require a lot of hard work on your pa= rt to get it all going the way you want, though.   That's th= e beautiful nature of the beast."

 

Ain't that the truth!  Wether it be HW or SW, l= ooping remains the bleeding edge of media production workflow.  The gr= eat potential that it holds for music and for video is matched by a near to= tal absence of standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for to get a grip on a workflow that me= ets one's unique needs and, in the same stroke, it opens the field to endle= ss workflow design possibilities.  IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up t= o these statements.  Great potential-Great Challenge.   

 

No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) =  the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a = looper is often high.  Thats not to say that you can't make great loop= ing art with a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compositiona= l style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. &n= bsp;I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-= now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW.

 

See you in the wee hours.

 

Daniel   

 

 

On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Rick Walker wrote:



On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:

On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

 

With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in= the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if= mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else"= . You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp= 1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a= looper within it.

However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of th= e LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong dir= ection....

 

Mark

But you have very, ve= ry sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, = Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish wha= t you want, specifically,
let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants.<= br>
You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper= as Bob Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardw= are when he designed the
LP-1.

Given that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable = piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured.    Will it do everything, &n= bsp;no,  but it even has the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in= the user base.

Additionally,  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not acco= mplish, a large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my las= t private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from = day one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpe= dal configuration
sound like it's the closest to what you want to do.    It wi= ll require a lot of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, though.   That's the beauti= ful nature of the beast.

rick walker

 

 

--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0309BCWCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 18:59:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F49B1834C1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D87A015.3010506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:59:33 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Thomas CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:59:41 +0000 (UTC) *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote:* > *Ain't that the truth! Wether it be HW or SW, looping remains the > bleeding edge of media production workflow. The great potential that > it holds for music and for video is matched by a near total absence of > standard workflows upon which to hang our hats. It makes it hard for > to get a grip on a workflow that meets one's unique needs and, in the > same stroke, it opens the field to endless workflow design > possibilities. IMO, Both LP-1 and Mobius live up to these statements. > Great potential-Great Challenge. * > * > * > *No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of > admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is > often high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art > with a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate /performance workflows > that facilitate your own compositional style/, you may have to buck up > the midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot > of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on > any looping platform...HW or SW.* > * > * > *See you in the wee hours.* Well put, Daniel. Additionally, part of the beauty of using any tool can be how we are creative getting around the tool's limitations. In some respects we're spoiled in this era because we have so many powerful tools at our beck and call and relatively inexpensively compared to 20/30 years ago. It's hard to remember that the simplest Boss RC-2 Looper would have boggled any of our minds in 1990. God, I didn't wish for more from the Lexicon Jamman for several years while I got to know it's capabilites. So much emphasis on this list is put on the functionality of looping gear. That's cool, we're a looping list afterall, but in the long run it comes down to how well you know your tools and how creative are you in both using them and in getting around their limitations. The point, in the long run, is making music and expressing ourselves. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:09:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68EE518349D; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D87A25D.3030301@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:09:26 +0000 (UTC) *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:* > *Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the > spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology > under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit > editor/librarian software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under > the FALSE notion that ease-of-use /must/ be (/entirely/) thrown out > the window to retain complexity-of-function. * > * > * > *The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her > own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND > software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of > aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. * > * > * > *I, for one, am pissed at this point.* One by one, the designers of digital looping gear have been dissatisfied with the gear that exists and, one by one, they have put a tremendous amount of time, energy and money into coming up with a better mouse trap. One by one, they have all taken lots of criticism by musicians who don't design the gear. That's all good because it contributes more knowledge and new ways of thinking about designing new gear for the masses. I've only had the pleasure of watching two people through years of this process but I'm blown away how much time, dedication and software they have put into it all. I'm in awe of them and their amazing skill sets. If you are pissed, Christopher, at what's out there, perhaps you should consider designing what you think should exist yourself and then go to the trouble to put it out to the market place. From watching the process of some of our communities' designers, I imagine that it might engender some humility to mix with your frustration and subsequent anger. Yours, Rick Walker, who also gets frustrated by what doesn't exist a fair amount of the time From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:13:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C26E18349F; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 596114442/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAN4/h01V0rJo/2dsb2JhbAAMmDCWR7ofhWMEkCs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,220,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="596114442" Message-ID: <4D87A365.6000506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:13:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Christopher Darrow wrote: > EDP plugin seems to have gone nowhere. (So sad.) the registration system is now being tested andy butler Mathons From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:13:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4F8B1834AE; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 479107.97641.bm@omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300734824; bh=rDT4vLSSJswg1EWXxRX8Dv3P2REayaDOnDgCgcC+FW0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rIgSLJoT7ZJWa5gkBffUVk2jPF19TvbxvfMUcpMnYMm5IR393jIz1l46869bANC/SEHpRxxb1jYmwvERDkjbVvPkJNSvi9bxv93iMw126RB6Limx7KWKRtg1RSj97mTbp4jjmWModzv0EtXkljWpELyvPzfY+k+UxpGreKXBymM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yOG2sm7J2JlZep+7ovvTNWj6enPJY8yO3YS5RBMHCVIQvGsy+/oUbcbgfFIibZ5pvtIa/rMaHhDYXzNB2pfd6b4DQsCsVbCrM6U/RAoad1o4pyVCoxxrJydudqOlW5kwXrnywtjOWBGD8LnHoN80FiKi7Nz7jaTRit4ZkcKpLLQ=; Message-ID: <385871.56157.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zv_48gQVM1kfF0PbCyNl7ELap3DBGnPCznO7nmmbl6INTco RzczIyO06Up_7cVB_uTVPU8EOIOW2ChjX49Vo.PsouDB4Mfy1OO_TtlEeeFy HB_jgI2eVicwvuGIuBIBFVuMlHi_dz5xVC1qSifugcIaATm9IFt_bRMZWvDY FR2iDULplJ.xOAeNABYcP1S.uYI48gx_uAMG0U.EJm6OCBgvJ4KpBoHeF5u4 D_xw12v3MNpv.e3ZooDLmscQpuvQ0AVcCw3OJW8FRubteXUdBfzRd0KSa.5P S22n1e0_oC4NdzT.8_OSV9givAna8zB5YMAugurB4f8nakMv802y08wHi66H WHSk1VS59ImZqsZfCgdXKzZwBaiE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> <4D87A25D.3030301@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D87A25D.3030301@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1256894572-1300734824=:56157" Resent-Message-ID: <_s2b3.A.juH.pN6hNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:13:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-1256894572-1300734824=:56157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it is true that a lot of stuff does not work as advertized and it is frustrating. And I have been dealing with it for 25 years now:-) Antony ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 8:09:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:* > *Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the spirit of >your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under performing, >half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian software that excuses >itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-use /must/ be >(/entirely/) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function. * > * > * > *The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make his/her own only >until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software >DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating glitches >that hold us back from realizing our dreams. * > * > * > *I, for one, am pissed at this point.* One by one, the designers of digital looping gear have been dissatisfied with the gear that exists and, one by one, they have put a tremendous amount of time, energy and money into coming up with a better mouse trap. One by one, they have all taken lots of criticism by musicians who don't design the gear. That's all good because it contributes more knowledge and new ways of thinking about designing new gear for the masses. I've only had the pleasure of watching two people through years of this process but I'm blown away how much time, dedication and software they have put into it all. I'm in awe of them and their amazing skill sets. If you are pissed, Christopher, at what's out there, perhaps you should consider designing what you think should exist yourself and then go to the trouble to put it out to the market place. >From watching the process of some of our communities' designers, I imagine that it might engender some humility to mix with your frustration and subsequent anger. Yours, Rick Walker, who also gets frustrated by what doesn't exist a fair amount of the time --0-1256894572-1300734824=:56157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
it is true that a lot of stuff does not work as advertized and it is frustrating. And I have been dealing with it for 25 years now:-)

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 8:09:17 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper

*On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:*
> *Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion that ease-of-use /must/ be (/entirely/) thrown out the window to retain complexity-of-function. *
> *
> *
> *The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper)  must make his/her own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in order AND software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions of aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. *
> *
> *
> *I, for one, am pissed at this point.*

One by one, the designers of digital looping gear have been dissatisfied with the gear that exists and, one by one,
they have put a tremendous amount of time, energy and money into coming up with a better mouse
trap.

One by one, they have all taken lots of criticism by musicians who don't design the gear.
That's all good because it contributes more knowledge and new ways of thinking about designing
new gear for the masses.

I've only had the pleasure of watching two people through years of this process but I'm blown away how much time, dedication and software they have put into it all.  I'm in awe of them and their amazing skill sets.

If you are pissed, Christopher, at what's out there,  perhaps you should consider designing what you think should exist yourself and then go to the trouble to put it out to the market place.

From watching the process of some of our communities' designers,  I imagine that it might
engender some humility to mix with your frustration and subsequent anger.

Yours,  Rick Walker,  who also gets frustrated by what doesn't exist a fair amount of the time


--0-1256894572-1300734824=:56157-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:22:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0CD1834B2; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=gYK6beTck3SzwOM9s5gPlQh38E6FgcQ+cOZS4KnTSHY=; b=KZ4oad6AdoKe5oSssEYQ4dyzzYATpqa8MkQkwV9fKharP+7CQb6h+PP8HXMuHqNC40 +4LRqmErdEbLnDRgOFcBtEzxrK4qXyXYiYgK6PoOqU/G8iw0jXT7eA4EWhE/uhgjulpw DsbXSbfL3AFEeXE3cYAaGM2OiFIk+OuMh2QZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=kYY6v45k05NNf7VJ9M7zKDc54QlFq9rsj9yPHIjhEuDTy3WgtGNIQqUQags+7Hi/po JWjcuJ49F+d1ftlhN78i1Pz203Shd429Ystnt0LGN0geB8lUBgTldTiuEiRM/gMdlyjG krpLNrMnb6v5Tm8keR4pYQTHLLmdLhUhUYIf8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:22:35 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <67BD4EFD-F57F-45D2-A2DE-A957774AC2EF@gmail.com> References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:22:38 +0000 (UTC) You couldn't have expressed my sentiments any better. Especially since I = just stopped rehearsing now after the audio glitched out in the middle = of a song. Ahhhhhhhhhhh :) There's nothing better to break up your focus and productivity........ = back to troubleshootin' mode. On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Theres really not that much difference between hardware and software, >=20 > Hardware has broken/dodgy cables > Software has drivers/settings > both have a learning curve > both never quite do what you want them to do > both do many things you dont need/want them to do > both frustrate the shit outa you > both give you wonderful uplifting wow moments >=20 > and... >=20 > both need a fucking footpedal.... >=20 > shiiiit >=20 >=20 >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:23:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170D01834C0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=IRE4DMVLfu0p/phmgjJE12362/tLDPfJJedAAIiBOTk=; b=uRWSaIug6gKcT0YH3yLpEUioO5z9gdU6NG7X9HGi+4QTuGyrTI3CRO10LSJTShvnO2 ZdyCtuTcaHvEOwvPf6dhqHc0d+G0MupqovtHchzTRLUDJoQ8qe/gaCv8sy5euWQfzqC1 Hhv1zMo9br1StThVOgRr1aGNf77q4PJ9CToRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=oZLbrA3hvErpAszAC+sor0/6pNEMGTfTRFKC4L1lvuMrycU/mscC7qJgSYoRQZJ06v D9alKpcrTAig/0CV+pJ0DS6KIBRiX8cN4SBfM7ToVPP81pIAzS4H217jn6KEib+PXCST BJCLP9lPDliPFU5qbY+VqfjcFkVzJ03DKaiEc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4D87A25D.3030301@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:27:27 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1BBE2BF0-A901-4699-82D8-18C0D059B7C2@gmail.com> References: <0259F7CD-BD37-437D-97F7-BFA14C1D1020@gmail.com> <4D87A25D.3030301@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:23:07 +0000 (UTC) I'm for hire! QA and UI design skills.=20 But I'm a "midiot." (Dislexic... midi fries my brain. I seriously think = I'd do better with pictographs.)=20 It's mostly the not working as advertised thing I'm upset with. Please = take my "fuck that" as less anger and more a calling out of that = situation.=20 Love you guys! On Mar 21, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > *On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:* >> *Fuck that. (Not aimed at you Daniel, I understand and respect the = spirit of your post, I only mean that...) I'm so tired of technology = under performing, half-baked "solutions" with bull-shit editor/librarian = software that excuses itself for POOR UI design under the FALSE notion = that ease-of-use /must/ be (/entirely/) thrown out the window to retain = complexity-of-function. * >> * >> * >> *The original poster (aka the sophisticated looper) must make = his/her own only until $1000 pedals like the LG get their editors in = order AND software DAW's/Hosts / Looping Plugins work past the billions = of aggravating glitches that hold us back from realizing our dreams. * >> * >> * >> *I, for one, am pissed at this point.* >=20 > One by one, the designers of digital looping gear have been = dissatisfied with the gear that exists and, one by one, > they have put a tremendous amount of time, energy and money into = coming up with a better mouse > trap. >=20 > One by one, they have all taken lots of criticism by musicians who = don't design the gear. > That's all good because it contributes more knowledge and new ways of = thinking about designing > new gear for the masses. >=20 > I've only had the pleasure of watching two people through years of = this process but I'm blown away how much time, dedication and software = they have put into it all. I'm in awe of them and their amazing skill = sets. >=20 > If you are pissed, Christopher, at what's out there, perhaps you = should consider designing what you think should exist yourself and then = go to the trouble to put it out to the market place. >=20 > =46rom watching the process of some of our communities' designers, I = imagine that it might > engender some humility to mix with your frustration and subsequent = anger. >=20 > Yours, Rick Walker, who also gets frustrated by what doesn't exist = a fair amount of the time >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:23:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E0C91834CA; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 352913.36258.bm@omp1022.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300735388; bh=O6Pf035tCtGkV+eSRYRWkrqp0k80Hr13lyx34ogLcZk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=19mq+D5E2wBYwl42qkHG9WxTODvXd+pXiW7wA1fz0hY/q5aAtTpqJ0A+zQOKXWJNd0F5Te2X1OBT5saC8EQu7UPysUq/5OMfkJ5SoLYTJC/2YhbhRbG1AFNaWAzDq8jPjjUEk7Xk8SXL09ly71igi7STkuE9NVrKT7v6Skx9H/k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yCD7vK12nOjOChdp0oq3cOTMlqQrYhLmdYp+K7hpuAV8UKJjKN62QJMvqoiEQYofPX26gqe5IAk7zK3+/gmMxPBGxV/TtycmDNaU5VJ+jOMLyKqeJ8aiMhTFgCl49EZPYy77HZsJi7B3tEezr6tb7SBX4mYgOKG0AsxKCHezpHg=; Message-ID: <146532.57999.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: veXIaJkVM1kiLP78iUohRUqVvznifZ9TzC6d.2FsgE6aE7_ kcAUoEQZk7rSLWRZpvvzoWj7AsSLtGcnjy74zHpLLFerEgtm3tUK8lTpEEY4 80oaj3AfgA0HrurS4.d0ZfJjvql5eNlNeAROqYS1acYkIrMN6RIr0fhaPvN. BXoB5Ahb8lmhwgNDqPwiTKp_0z05F5F8H2aEP3aVEVRd45GAFzkqIYQaWilE 8sf59.yofinPzlLXz9guTiPGlBfBTAqYAiOv2O9vuX5S9y7vV3SvgUBU6cQC qwUFXqlzZLYiOB3vHZwev2ScjIsI1F82xN07hYo3hM30_x06IWkoeGNwwgeF tMCiiDmp9fv8Czt32fckpE98Q8ik- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-719541826-1300735388=:57999" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:23:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-719541826-1300735388=:57999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii after trying a lot of very sophisticated stuff: I had a looper responding to breath control (3dB difference between two mics triggers record or play back, I found that simple tools well mastered get me further and let me fly instead of being burdened to learn and remember all th sophisticated stuff I programmed:-) My two cents... Antony ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:39:06 PM Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just >>write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do >>this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours >>you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 >>and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper >>within it. > However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based >solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction.... > > Mark But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, Mark. Honestly, how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want, specifically, let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants. You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob Amstadt did when he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardware when he designed the LP-1. Given that the LP-1 is hardware, it is by far, the most configurable piece of hardware looping gear ever designed and manufactured. Will it do everything, no, but it even has the potential to add new functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in the user base. Additionally, it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a large amount of the things you want. It just doesn't have long press capability. Honestly, it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last private letter to you. The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day one. Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal configuration sound like it's the closest to what you want to do. It will require a lot of hard work on your part to get it all going the way you want, though. That's the beautiful nature of the beast. rick walker --0-719541826-1300735388=:57999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
after trying a lot of very sophisticated stuff: I had a looper responding to breath control (3dB difference between two mics triggers record or  play back, I found that simple tools well mastered get me further and let me fly instead of being burdened to learn and remember all th sophisticated stuff I programmed:-)

My two cents...

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:39:06 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:
>
>> With mobius you wouldn't need to model the looper in the controller. You just write a script for each button that asks "if mobius is in this state, then do this. If not then do something else". You'd just need to script the behaviours you want depending on the current conditions. This is not possible with the lp1 and I'm not sure even the most sophisticated floor controller can model a looper within it.
> However even as I resist a bit the rack aspect of the LP-1, a computer based solution seems to go even further in the wrong direction....
>
> Mark
But you have very, very sophisticated and specific, idiosyncratic design/requests for a looper, Mark.
Honestly,  how could any dedicated hardware looper EVER accomplish what you want, specifically,
let alone what every single other sophisticated looper in the world wants.

You are going to have to go with a computer or else, design your own looper as Bob Amstadt did when
he was frustrated with the different paradigms that were available in hardware when he designed the
LP-1.

Given that the LP-1 is hardware,  it is by far, the most configurable piece of hardware looping gear
ever designed and manufactured.    Will it do everything,  no,  but it even has the potential to add new
functionality through continuing software design if there is a consensus in the user base.

Additionally,  it is sophisticated that you can get close, if not accomplish, a large amount of the things you want.
It just doesn't have long press capability.

Honestly,  it's okay if you don't use the LP-1 as I told you in my last private letter to you.
The LP-1 is not for everyone and Bob has been really clear about that from day one.

Mobius and a Laptop, with a good sound card and a sophisticated midi footpedal configuration
sound like it's the closest to what you want to do.    It will require a lot of hard work on your part
to get it all going the way you want, though.  That's the beautiful nature of the beast.

rick walker


--0-719541826-1300735388=:57999-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:28:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E50671834D0; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=zxt1hikeE4hA60hUaxQEX47EGeMtZPD5LDgOYF7KBL4=; b=uv7KnmwC9NezXnaijmIKqscEdHziBH+RBXrlct2I6DJsYP4W6Hms8zzNua1FuC95Lj Xntjn2dSgs2OyhkV/uGGAr/QM+3ry3h0H1svA+sVte+ykawJsCndWyQWbHwOpgAIHhQn 1xPHFQzMHvRHlBTVwxVaortbfR4OiJcCGV1S0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ryzpOjsxOvFHwQc01gpZRXq4dy87O7TgD2I2AyHRUePRtfbYaIkQ0f0+BexiYokpXH xru734/SCNhBGs7w6E62FNFV5b8/87g4031O53Ryo6pO9u3Huj6LgBWyilxzUGUtqMgN iDYqxqEVLhph3Gehtbj4vlJNYc1trTMYKgJR4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <4D87A365.6000506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:32:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> <4D87A365.6000506@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <1VW_zC.A.DQ.hb6hNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Sweet. Does it "hear" midi through Ableton? My other plugins do....=20 That was really my last stopping point. I tried everything I could think = of.=20 If not, then the next round I'm going to try Per's advice again and = delve into Mobious. On Mar 21, 2011, at 12:13 PM, andy butler wrote: > Christopher Darrow wrote: >> EDP plugin seems to have gone nowhere. (So sad.) >=20 > the registration system is now being tested >=20 > andy butler > Mathons >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 19:54:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96B301834DB; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=86mi4NVOFzNVhJMcIdN3dthHbKIcR68zHAEKW32+Bw0=; b=pvYM3NPXM36kUiS9WiZzXPAjqOcI37rHy9sldiuL6DXPWlMPiFKk/COOAJ8Q4Cn+90 mUlu5sqnIIczDfN7DNdAkaiSJ7PAcwTN/r/KNvulJrYY2YH04/YWuFa1TnyLSlivEgVe wArXQ6t4ewq/4asohn3SVPm3X5uZL81QNO7HU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vcRfNdSS4YZ6M/H3U2UpfxCB1oqsjtKwdvx67Ro85DulQkBBOU64CepO8vvCkc/SKa tHh8FWqgDA2JV7Z4FKSLH1tonVySY3fnoGMOtbDW+uhDvDgzvERfqmgge2ReaRSZC5BA WoRPI/qpr4ClemUFeIwgn1Kgb0MNq6N2cz0M4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> <4D87A365.6000506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:54:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 19:54:29 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > Sweet. Does it "hear" midi through Ableton? My other plugins do.... Yes, if you set up Ableton to forward received MIDI into the plugin Mobius will hear it. But personally I like to use a different method: I set up Mobius to snag MIDI directly from the physical MIDI in port, no matter if Ableton, Bidule, Mainstage or whatever host application is hosting the Mobius plugin. By going with that concept I can be sure that the MIDI bindings I have set up in Mobius will make the looper react to my MIDI pedal board in exactly the same way every time I plug in. It is important that if Mobius is set to hihack MIDI in directly you can't also set up a track (or by the MIDI pref's) in Ableton to shuffle the same MIDI events into the Mobius plugin. If feeding the looper dual MIDI events of each kind your looping commands will be interrupted and crashes will happen. The mantra is "one trigger - one reaction". Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 21:43:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1136B1834A6; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 596174618/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.178.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.178.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAAdjh01V0rJo/2dsb2JhbAAMmDLSFYVjBJAr X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,221,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="596174618" Message-ID: <4D87C6A0.1030608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:44:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <9A9D66AA-2172-45BF-B1E5-55C7EC02B58D@gmail.com> <4D87A365.6000506@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Christopher Darrow wrote: > Sweet. Does it "hear" midi through Ableton? My other plugins do.... I had the EDP plugin (aka Echoloop)working in Ableton within minutes, once Per and Ricky Graham had given the hot tips. I have no explanation as to why it wouldn't work for you in Ableton. andy butler Mathons From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 22:19:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05F181834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TA33bZv7dDk9y8fsZMXvahT1g2Oj0J+cENhhHwBWRXA=; b=sNbqqI0PvrRLzbPZsmtEFnUfl4AVf/RK9rjAGZmPxd0V2L3yArPI/0+Q73wtNR7kQt oQrquZX/cQeGRinwmxSe9nhzf+ZC/38T7/tExzlcp3rZhUsl2kqLIwCCTEXfrES7Q7N9 0XC9q1ZGu6q/cR91tf0g7HfBKoVxwpbPhFvVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lU+gDa5glXWio6OC73rl6bkIcuzbcr+G0ssNz4g21q6vmFWi46jgpIos+Ti8TxexuE p3PXv0OQuuZpoRaRnTvNnZyFDqKE/MA4w4ibuznvdVCTrliuM4yPstarifyEE8vuvzZy ctVlRFOfWa0pcRTqegMy15UpiYJJshvccPdGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:18:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:19:00 +0000 (UTC) I just got a PMC10,uff its been a long time we will see what that can do... Luis On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Mar 20, 2011, at 12:31 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> I'm not sure this is possible with the lp1. >> >> It's not, and I'm sure Mark knows that. > > I'm aware that there are a few things that just aren't possible and that = many of the other things I want could be done if the controller were sophis= ticated enough to model the state of the LP1 (and really annoying in cases = where the model and the LP1 got into a disagreement) but that requires a re= ally sophisticated controller. I also know that it fits pretty much exactly= with the playback and general loop manipulation capabilities of the LP1, s= o it's a matter of how it gets controlled rather than what it does -- not t= o say that's easy. > > Mark > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 21 22:46:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3062B1834A1; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RKaMXerWZZYGd4JZodKrWXl3wNG8RO3wYUan73GSjDU=; b=FoS0SPjN4OEXKQd+AzICKLmAcnlyrRle2ifzK0hRLuFbLndrV+56QBc7GDES0cPZYl bNqAcUO55ad0+CobDWcA5KULNo85oeY/jYJc/UW36OvnyxavVNjDgtZ6G1tYy8lRHET2 0uLm78GHKKvCiNGhEvZRI6GRrG50YzUuntRXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=bcc:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ukjer6hSa727WH5TsTRU+WQF3tg2iUmRZTmNsXPi9c2LJHcXmjVXYqcwaHpK9iDY10 oGD4sronck678THEROHkxXMFe0DS034IFHKdT1rso8BL/dznD5hj4kLMcvCAldqHhh83 mbcmNldyRTMRXyVyOpkfrgdpNlFxqeGciTjKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <20110321092947.13A9C1834A8@arsenic.violacea.com> <822cdf91e6606c2aa48b41f4bc8bc733.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:46:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was:tape delay plug ins, now user reviews From: Louie Angulo To: billwalker@baymoon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:46:54 +0000 (UTC) very true Bill,the internet is a gamble with this,im sure those plugins are cool and funcitonal,but im seeing more and more companies false advertising as well,softstep is one of them,how can you sell such products in such a state,makes us pay big bucks and expect us to be their free beta tester and have understanding and compasion?? The software for the digitechs jamman stereo looper is a joke as well even with their latest update!! i had my issues with the eventide timefactor as well when i first bought it(i was one of the first ones) and it took them a while to iron may critical issues out,i mean a 400.00dlls pedal and the tap tempo,spill over,and many other basic functions which they advertised didnt work properly?? i just dont agree with that,i buy devices to start making music and dont mind putting in the time to learn how to use them,but i dont pay to become a beta tester,i understand minor bugs can go undetected and is expected of them to come up with a fix, but joining a forum for me is to suggest cool features that will improve them and not to solve such issues,that has made me waste so much time in the past. yet they put their videos in youtube and make it all look like everything works as expected so you salivate and buy it,or they give you faulty software editors that look killer and suppose to make it easier for you,i find this pathetic really. i wouldnt mind becoming their beta tester if they gave me their devices for free though,but i rather spend my time making music. Luis On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, wrote: > These are exactly the kinds of user reviews that i find suspect, =A0the > first one sounds like someone who has little patience and even less skill > with a computer. =A0And who knows how well this person manages their ram, > cpu usage, or how optimized for music performance their computer is, i.e. > how many none music related programs are they running that is dragging > down their machine. and the second review ......any kind of dongle type > lap > top add on is vulnerable to getting wacked, its the nature of the beast > and one =A0reason I haven't gone lap top yet, its such a ridiculously > vulnerable platform in that regard. drop a lap top on a concrete floor an= d > there is a strong likelihood its toast. > =A0I'm sorry Louie but these kinds of responses reinforce my > feeling that a little knowledge is dangerous. And that consumers often > have a tendency these days to fly off the handle when they can't get ther= e > new toys to work properly. I have worked both in music retail and > manufacturing long enough to realize that 95% of these kinds of issues ar= e > related to pilot error, not the product. From my own personal experience > most of my computer related problems come from my own lack of knowledge o= f > the platform not the platform itself. > =A0Another part of the equation has to do with > leading edge technology, and compatibility issues with trailing edge > computers. If you want to play it safe, wait a few months for the bugs to > get ironed out and compatibility issues are resolved . My windows based, > mainframe computer at home has no problem with my UAD card, but its a car= d > not a dongle and is internally mounted. As i mentioned before,I know the > guys at UA, they are not in > the business of making inferior products, they actually give a shit about > things like quality control and ease of use. I think the point I was > making is that user reviews cannot always be counted on to be subjective > or even rational. How else do you account for the common occurrence I see > on sites like Harmony central where several glowing reviews are followed > by some angry trashing review, where someone disses a product that > everyone else is heralding. I saw one once where the guy talked shit abou= t > a product and only at the end of the review did he admit he had dropped > the product on concrete and broke it. Another thing that happens on these > site is rival manufacturers will plant bogus negative reviews , after all > there is no over sight on sites like this to prevent them from doing so. > I've seen a number of negative reviews on HC =A0written by a guy named > anonymous :-) I just don't trust user reviews unless its from people I > know and respect or the positive reviews far out number the negative. > And > to be candid I don't shop on Amazon, unless its absolutely the only > choice. =A0I don't believe in them as a company and they tend to be a > clearing house for overstock or folding businesses anyway so you are > rarely sure if the warranty > issues will be covered. BTW any price you see below MAP on Amazon is a > vendor who is in violation of the manufacturers MAP policy and there is a > good chance you can't get warranty coverage if something malfunctions.. I= f > price is your only > consideration, go for it and shop Amazon, but buyer beware...... > =A0good luck > =A0Bill > > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 08:02:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C127518349D; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 543052.63534.bm@omp1044.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300780942; bh=Xqg/GuJMPDtJvJVbGI2ViBEAu484ezANfnkNYBWu2Us=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZWPxc713KihuCedOv1dAEw+lk6fFjN48LwP0UBjVGbKK+0o0WK6gr//7Ai2jSbbw/u6A624CO0jdlkFFAc0IgyVd/d+gRODv5hgOT/vik0Qy95P0djaFd+xdhcq8e1GYH9/YNfqJDQuny1NhKgxQPjSnWegJwirr8JWLw7LNM10= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MTo9l6wH3rvzE6mwBd3K75PpFM2jc6X/FPIZp8Zo6i++iUwhXFyXWGBhhu+L+1B9VYRhlW3B7vL/ZgHR55cFEnX7WC/vThopZBNyxq91dTFJQSKMgxn/fYwbWnsQMvK380NeU/HQLYs7foNvuqeIGop5uM8g/IuSYYMUlJA79OA=; Message-ID: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6.rPQfcVM1k0cIuUtLrSnVpum51rNFW7KirJt4bXgqE0zTX Cb4kn4CCxvCmYivWrCkjSdKy.SQks77DcoH3258sl3v2NSzrb2sIxZe77TwK b0Imo6pJdpUiBSPUA5OEO.gN5GtbiqYN7_JHm6GqoH9EgQDklEPTAlMc4Qoi B13ziigxHTFFdDb3LNxC9xDG7BoUX0g1fGAikwVGwj4qwptAMt6HL.Cf1y4P F1uK_kyWPvXYFkhW3wDdQYhUi.MswW2dVjaXiZAgOjkc5Rj4.GUTpbsutKpQ fPuHme8_HjY9DIGGjJnq2BTlr5e5XjytxglP9Wkwtm0T2 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 01:02:22 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1289366831-1300780942=:16101" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:02:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1289366831-1300780942=:16101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello, what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-) Antony --0-1289366831-1300780942=:16101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hello,

what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-)

Antony

--0-1289366831-1300780942=:16101-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 08:37:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A401834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:37:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcvobFJFFnfofRXXRP+TJU7SgyV5RQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:37:08 +0000 (UTC) I've programmed my Softstep and I could theoretically use it but I don't feel confident - more often than not it happens that I miss a button when I need to hit it in the right moment. Sometimes the buttons don't seem to react but it is because I don't hit it in the right way. I wonder how reliably this can be overcome by practice. Does anyone of you really use it, having replaced your old pedal completely? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 09:22:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95B371834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C6jQr8r68iuZRm4UhLu3vaUywFYxCS7QVq1mbvNVshA=; b=U8bPIL1yBTdaX5aWxikVPGyqLSM8x1baRMqPKB/9ozYsNW/O+/3aqgsjnP+ic6bzm0 LwjglxuDr1lIo0iA1pqoCoq4HzDoQMtoq1Do411wSNdI5E2m7SO+zO88cYui7mbOx/C3 wK3lzSXZb8vjHafbQzaCjbSfge86/A4pWI8OM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hDEVRF57yoBPCpFIKITZiXhyOX46wOXyiLfIWcZDmn3ddmKKulsJ+zIr3GGbYoM67/ PcyK/XGHJwybhWHo4CmZBUJWYd5i092gS0rpPX4XvTxBfbzCEjVWHJkiNH8ssJkOD88c AWVRKw/GXMKJS+N2IV84/ElIVJBlTKtWfmtww= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:22:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface. http://hexler.net/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, wrote: > > hello, > what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-) > Antony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 09:39:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED53C1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 417834.82471.bm@omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300786769; bh=zBAnjNq8R+nEyOSXO+kkuEY6vSVowUlsqbZnDyFlu2w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wfxYLDXfpt+m8XpRvP5BSxGhiD+acYuHlG/N4eIsKKOCa4YOvYgeLtOE1OfsqW8Fa9MC2Qunmi6oZmrCqbe5a3d6V5E9i6VaGF6k8yormCub/2VK7VoaCLEVO38gAZChsMFvCKvG/0N3xrx/9/GesbC141Ef/clsDXmgEmO7424= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fou1Lz5wOyID6p9jJKK14ay6AP4MHEVrN2FpLmdrn9MgDuIFg2jPqTkBdxDaNgCXpcVuDZyoddDt49G6NqHbq7vv8I2cAp83rFJfPiUhh+7/R4sZZyc9hQwJpdkAVW5mEiG77sO+TE3mZDb/6fVJoh3TmOuBKAaBeby/aLNthpI=; Message-ID: <238706.12578.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: oUPRylUVM1mpwZU5dtgKsE3gDnpwtEPGkQzrB_kcQCC2nmY V7RMHnlvN5v9G8WAhakU8pNn9SullqycMLuDi.wJnEkcaTgFLHCEyO1JQVYf b73pHyeECi5kVfx7QhjIPP6_9PyvbGrYDxss9uEVfYnsp1BFRQ5GjO5NYwMe 0RoGSsrNLXWb1B8n8LQNg_wl12veBxeQFPyGFRPrbtj80Ls3bpNbP9wlUlla _salSiQA.Eyd4dIgs8WkHx0b1Ei8mmITQttCtJ_bEFnHrYb_OB2RR89TcBDW MMjX3hncoKpg_b16DGU78TkqbKY88Bojf83vy7Pb0qffIf4CCP6HSDdR5jm_ hbDaIlGULDnincJqDAUc.1XHDeV2Im_pTGGdEHDQValFwIQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1359840077-1300786768=:12578" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:39:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1359840077-1300786768=:12578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks Per, U da Man:-) ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:22:32 AM Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface. http://hexler.net/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, wrote: > > hello, > what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is >Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the >story here:-) > Antony --0-1359840077-1300786768=:12578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thanks Per,

U da Man:-)

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:22:32 AM
Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad

Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't
support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I
don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means
Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC
control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control
templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an
editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface.
http://hexler.net/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hello,
> what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-)
> Antony


--0-1359840077-1300786768=:12578-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 09:41:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80B641834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 986437.37814.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300786875; bh=i/xHsPGF+2lDYeB+gGeaTDgExVzQGiIU7i2A82crDpY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VHNoyivwmfV0ZH5PIw7PHG02E0PRw0dubVxZvml5vyiXOd2wJbXiPucKZUBBhNjGEr2QRxATkxiFXSOqb0NrrjhoM1ssRHSBYe30FeV1S713nXfULqD9AQY8ArBdUu9eVqkdHVf0NTO90DZiTN1E50wAHwD+UlHnO9XL/fr3iHo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TP5IoL/oub5n7KN3cCF9TGUj+od2JiV1Kyjily4dWb8f102Toh/nebJRiyDXeJcYIkcKb+2YFasrnBmVVsol8/YWgqaRLic3iPeATnQzE8Pss8Is2B3ttlCpFwM0BFMbqUjrH5TRBj7AaiX13sO4ItRVALFc2/kshr5jMzIJKgU=; Message-ID: <913710.47931.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5OCBajUVM1njkMYpvGKAH0C8f1rQD8F.hlbhYcOdYQ9rtHt 5IQe.FPxgCeyEEaGOzypObieqbK1TFH5hj0mIMqVzZotP4GS7QiXACV7U9ij wjpQOv3VMfWibx6FJ1uNbytECVZnWmZEtsHQJdYgwbU9F7FmxKH5HBPw6Jx3 6yW9z1FjHyoLFzhryDjXz.djluL_NWHQpO_S4P_Nx0A3_xSqKQGeX8j5QNEs 4aWlXm443bRPrIZJFgqkvqSmICHAWDhZjQa545LGk5gPcvwPP8iTFazrrHW4 87EbxrHewdf7DSLNVaR1qzjtfkbhm2AXi.hrNudqK8af1ZKBMmeKK_Hl8IvT tWI3Nozc3bOA9m27EFO0evKcfrQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:41:15 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1092955161-1300786875=:47931" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:41:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-1092955161-1300786875=:47931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii please tell me how you connect MIDI directly to Mobius when running as a plugin inside Live... A ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:22:32 AM Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface. http://hexler.net/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, wrote: > > hello, > what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is >Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the >story here:-) > Antony --0-1092955161-1300786875=:47931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
please tell me how you connect MIDI directly to Mobius when running as a plugin inside Live...

A

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:22:32 AM
Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad

Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't
support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I
don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means
Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC
control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control
templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an
editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface.
http://hexler.net/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hello,
> what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-)
> Antony


--0-1092955161-1300786875=:47931-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 10:19:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9BFF1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=S4LjKRVWaHDFXZpeEAa+eNXTovxxKdbKtfRNTOn8VGo=; b=jabl77lexc1H//+8p4MCCRLYbJ23Itu12Kj3v/dNgP7VF6O0zueMljc8NOYw3Usn55 QxBOSaV0dLP2xINLfmF73iHcXWA5q5PwbF5UbR+V9NOTxdBuW7kjn4q9v5G+JYF2LC61 HSzUTC0errEmqCJXrw2yWlLHZ/JorMBJ/Tb3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=JsOMw4nREur1YQz+a3Mob2eeFjq7D1kzvFClvrclCjmd5DbuQbM3toH8co3OfYE4df k83x40wSrrDDmh7j+3XiSm+j7xVxmmbxbX7tzJU+uNon339+b7Q38E7DGK0UbnJ5fy4s sYgnFbjH46OhNMGjGYDQAJ+0oBzXF3WMzX5yQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Christopher Darrow In-Reply-To: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:23:49 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:19:34 +0000 (UTC) No, I don't currently use mine at all. I did replace it for exactly that reason (inconsistency of result) and = it also it sent out a continuous signal that made monitoring my midi = signals impossible, which was fixed by replacing it. The inconsistent results could be fine now too for all I know, but I = don't use it at the moment so I don't know. That's what I'm hoping for though, when it comes time to try again.=20 On Mar 22, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I've programmed my Softstep and I could theoretically use it but I = don't > feel confident - more often than not it happens that I miss a button = when I > need to hit it in the right moment. Sometimes the buttons don't seem = to > react but it is because I don't hit it in the right way. I wonder how > reliably this can be overcome by practice. Does anyone of you really = use it, > having replaced your old pedal completely? >=20 > -Michael >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 15:06:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFFCC1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wym4CA+uTMV1cKIPLszIiQ5YnKs1CWIgSOHbP3/M3xU=; b=RVD15v6DSp24P4P0DqRFd2wNK8TdV9k8ACuZVqnMd5z+1wi6xNFrr5AkgE5jNnoUD9 A2pr3zPdIgfp8S73t46CIaPgAi05pBp+Z/wGnEwBC76yIJhOpLgdOhUIMSnvz7WDsgdN iM0ebB3k+dIKcoRTXDXRO1rCUik6zYE+DqkBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l2ROPrj33loBPMETzyzUTSEl58iWQ5ljiGCb0rpuoLcCtOPqGwNajJBRCJlbuE5ROD 6buIJolSnlDj0QUGz4VjlJ7v+VIma16zPBimTuFjkCT+OX9Pe+nGjtLAo99lPGJfJBAw gK9KC8lYFRUqlXSzTw54WVWj0OpE8iPBfeDqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> References: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:06:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:06:56 +0000 (UTC) yes,I also found it quite hard to trigger the back row ,they could have raise the back level a bit in my opinion also the whole XY dec/inc seems a bit difficult without the feel of a click or something, unless you step on it barefoot offcourse;-) Michael but you have the PMC10 right? not using it anymore? cheers Luis On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I've programmed my Softstep and I could theoretically use it but I don't > feel confident - more often than not it happens that I miss a button when I > need to hit it in the right moment. Sometimes the buttons don't seem to > react but it is because I don't hit it in the right way. I wonder how > reliably this can be overcome by practice. Does anyone of you really use it, > having replaced your old pedal completely? > > -Michael > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 15:57:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB3F1834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? References: <2AD69BA82E8F413892F62827AD0185EC@mpeserver> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: does anyone really use Softstep? Thread-Index: AcvoqcgwCWuyrotZR163R2vZEiPWVQ== Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:56:53 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2011 15:57:29.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8B1D040:01CBE8A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:57:31 +0000 (UTC) You know, if that thing had half the buttons, but twice as big, it might wor= k.=20 Andy o On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, "Louie Angulo" w= rote: > yes,I also found it quite hard to trigger the back row ,they could > have raise the back level a bit in my opinion > also the whole XY dec/inc seems a bit difficult without the feel of a > click or something, unless you step on it barefoot offcourse;-) > Michael but you have the PMC10 right? not using it anymore? > cheers > Luis >=20 > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> I've programmed my Softstep and I could theoretically use it but I don't >> feel confident - more often than not it happens that I miss a button when= I >> need to hit it in the right moment. Sometimes the buttons don't seem to >> react but it is because I don't hit it in the right way. I wonder how >> reliably this can be overcome by practice. Does anyone of you really use i= t, >> having replaced your old pedal completely? >>=20 >> -Michael >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 17:51:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6188618349E; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L0r3O1PAxgn3EpxRLPVNI3VEkLDYSK0m/T1V//S0V9A=; b=VUCc22YXdweXKQYUdcOXC/qRGS0T5/GX3eIlaVjI80J73X4DmxrHJC8pwbCwyuRj0W ljqO1k4eGXneuTJXNSMFpo+kMmrtrIsXyxKauMsOuC0YjxVFp97wp/dtvb1hwcnSS9HH dQYrZyFspoTzykBRrVLGZ8XJL3uJx1LTDulSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kEo6sBbVysrscahYy0vTeGG//c4iqRDrlrPOQyXYAAsFpOwKN0Q8a2o26xEC4KHUag fd8uXpB8Bh17rpHEWyBsGkrkRlKh1JlQSpwrHGK1T9ClwlKoIs5SRU52FwXx7+il+YbM 3ek2UZAqTTi0OQnT/2yGZD9IqSW90KiVks0mU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Per Boysen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325556dee4ead87049f15e4bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:51:24 +0000 (UTC) --000325556dee4ead87049f15e4bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mobius does support OSC, but it is difficult to configure (editing XML) if you don't have an OSC client that can send custom messages. I think the newer versions of TouchOSC support custom message so I can provide more information about the Mobius message format if anyone is interested, but if you also want to control Ableton it is probably easier just to use Osculator for both. Jeff On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't > support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I > don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means > Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC > control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control > templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an > editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface. > http://hexler.net/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, wrote: > > > > hello, > > what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an > iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app > for Live? What's the story here:-) > > Antony > > --000325556dee4ead87049f15e4bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mobius does support OSC, but it is difficult to configure (editing XML) if = you
don't have an OSC client that can send custom messages. = =A0I think the
newer versions of TouchOSC support custom message = so=A0I can provide more
information about the Mobius message format if anyone is interested, b= ut if you also
want to control Ableton it is probably easier just= to use Osculator for both.

Jeff


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Per Bo= ysen <perboysen= @gmail.com> wrote:
Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I
don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means
Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC
control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control
templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an
editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface.
http://hexler.net/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hello,
> what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone= /iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Liv= e? What's the story here:-)
> Antony


--000325556dee4ead87049f15e4bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 18:07:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635221834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8BC.004FB5EA" Subject: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:07:26 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Thread-Index: AcvoucZlMPgS8jA4Tg+gvU9e+8eNOgAALX0g References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2011 18:07:48.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D244E90:01CBE8BC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:07:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8BC.004FB5EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, but would pay someone to set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that simply comes close to emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, an interface where I can see there status and some simple mangling like reverse, half speed, such as that. =20 So if someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets talk. =20 Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8BC.004FB5EA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, but would pay = someone to set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that simply comes = close to emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, an interface = where I can see there status and some simple mangling like reverse, half = speed, such as that.

 

So if someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets = talk.

 

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8BC.004FB5EA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 18:13:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9D8B1834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sMETNSKcnmUSp1CB9T2fjtckJgVEN/iw+uqfdA9LDl4=; b=fnfmK9AjGtaOGr5RovaEQ8ksUxHtVonmwe3mZTFTX254Gd61875kK3/zBI6Iqr3ri6 srJKqfwXW8tdk6cXKnoKYxzah7DVv6B+/68yxvU0avCszb97dl5/Z/XdGpL5HDM5YCZR r4on+2pWZjNRliUsFjfGzW06R3NBM9CUVqglA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=tP4U/lpmpuSUxWxtHrEKi5DIn99TdXdrTYVLa/YMrzl++4KX9on6CbBveZkc/TCnK2 p4EU6SLWZMeg7CmQiKAht5afxmLkiStETAwCo3JalFRrucmHb3u/cn6cwA7yl5+AU+3o 9aVpgFhyRYktrmrLxrY2qx66ue46n6lZ/+iD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13:05 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd630e21821fe049f1632a0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd630e21821fe049f1632a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if it's going to be fairly simple (no post processing of loops...midi clips controlling functions in real time etc etc), why would you need to host in ableton? you could just run mobius standalone.... i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, but would pay someone to > set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that simply comes close to > emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, an interface where I can > see there status and some simple mangling like reverse, half speed, such as > that. > > > > So if someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets talk. > > > > Andy o > --000e0cd630e21821fe049f1632a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if it's going to be fairly simple (no post processing of loops...midi c= lips controlling functions in real time etc etc), why would you need to hos= t in ableton? you could just run mobius standalone....

i ask, becaus= e i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of whic= h you speak

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Andy Owens = <andy@1800dia= lword.com> wrote:

=A0

So if someone is into that as a paying little des= ign gig, lets talk.

=A0

Andy o


--000e0cd630e21821fe049f1632a0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 18:42:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47C5B1834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8C0.C73B56B9" Subject: RE: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:41:38 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD809D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Thread-Index: AcvovNOg6uhzmvLcQEKVmi1apPrbrgAAQJTA References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2011 18:42:12.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB9EE6A0:01CBE8C0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:42:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8C0.C73B56B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you can see, I know jack-shit about it. =20 I would be running it on a dedicated PC platform, but in a rack mount case as to have it in my gig rack, so would be on an RME card more than likely, and all I want is a simple looper, no effects, no nothing to make it crash, the mst stable possible softare looping setup is what I want to put together, as a backup to LP1. =20 Andy 0 =20 =20 =20 From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig =20 if it's going to be fairly simple (no post processing of loops...midi clips controlling functions in real time etc etc), why would you need to host in ableton? you could just run mobius standalone.... i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Andy Owens wrote: I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, but would pay someone to set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that simply comes close to emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, an interface where I can see there status and some simple mangling like reverse, half speed, such as that. =20 So if someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets talk. =20 Andy o =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8C0.C73B56B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As you can see, I know jack-shit about it.

 

I would be running it on a dedicated PC platform, but in a rack mount = case as to have it in my gig rack, so would be on an RME card more than = likely, and all I want is a simple looper, no effects, no nothing to = make it crash, the mst stable possible softare looping setup is what I = want to put together, as a backup to LP1.

 

Andy 0

 

 

 

From:= = Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: = Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:13 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = Ableton/Mobius consulting gig

 

if it's going to be fairly simple (no = post processing of loops...midi clips controlling functions in real time = etc etc), why would you need to host in ableton? you could just run = mobius standalone....

i ask, because i could set up mobius for = you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you = speak

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at = 6:07 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> = wrote:

I have no time to learn to set = all this stuff up, but would pay someone to set me up a system in = Ableton and Mobius that simply comes close to emulating the LP1, in = other words, eight tracks, an interface where I can see there status and = some simple mangling like reverse, half speed, such as = that.

 

So if someone is into that as a = paying little design gig, lets talk.

 

Andy = o

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE8C0.C73B56B9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 18:52:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A88A1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=y8iy4A4nKq8oelbyskMnCf9N+FlkVLOFCV0TTZ/3XkU=; b=L5xE6ruB28HmvoAdICkbTK+obKvZruANQ/6q5qCRxwJPx+DwSF6Uyd+G/Hq1XilPi8 wgGcF8FoT3x6S8ANmdJMFQl83Qs1Y1zMlv9cPW8k3/4dAPi0s5OXbCh+bw0iw5z6I6F8 C7d6KyxrvMIFd0ceEw8x2PQWDWHlGrODF5+3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=J8Ml+O3M7yZj89eTyFGDfoYZB6QN40eCfJ9RTpMkDuIuGAiSDFBv28Cz2ca+0/WgOH Y0GY6WZ/5lm5Lx4NHnln+MGv3Zgj1V9BAjdgkt3P74oxY+lCU1LJh/xjFhyxyqD3CfOW Vhyyh30xi1FLqoLkBkyDf5kJlvPliUwF1tcRw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD809D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD809D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:52:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7548875049e049f16bdf8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:52:25 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7548875049e049f16bdf8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well my advice would be to run it standalone. it's solid as a rock. i'd be happy to help you set it up. would you like to contact me off list? sim On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > As you can see, I know jack-shit about it. > > > > I would be running it on a dedicated PC platform, but in a rack mount case > as to have it in my gig rack, so would be on an RME card more than likely, > and all I want is a simple looper, no effects, no nothing to make it crash, > the mst stable possible softare looping setup is what I want to put > together, as a backup to LP1. > > > > Andy 0 > > > > > --000e0cd7548875049e049f16bdf8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well my advice would be to run it standalone. it's solid as a rock. i&#= 39;d be happy to help you set it up. would you like to contact me off list?=

sim

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:41 = PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

As you can see, I know jack-= shit about it.

=A0

I would be running it on a dedicated PC platform,= but in a rack mount case as to have it in my gig rack, so would be on an R= ME card more than likely, and all I want is a simple looper, no effects, no= nothing to make it crash, the mst stable possible softare looping setup is= what I want to put together, as a backup to LP1.

=A0

Andy 0

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--000e0cd7548875049e049f16bdf8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 19:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 422401834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9hiCm3tXWwGqfEbK7mGP+/zJgmSlHVi7EuRKJDRNhy0=; b=cjf8azGVjVXyMUMp2rxDxhtZwRdVvDyhVs3OJXL9BlfsPsim8ytAvuI/adPtJMzELs 4qH2Vck5D0BntlJjF7ZPlCnGaolFDKebkCPAkVzosNLFSb2Ibvdj2k0P8P64uTl2BRYp MXftWZug3x4ZQASpFBK43+wxxsZnNAQGwQCB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DYpiVNi4B22HU3R5DkWDtWom05+a76rIZ9Y+MdWp57Aosh3o7j7G/h9xPn2+f7s5NO tnW1Z9ctQGpiV16BLIvz72d1FmSDW+BXzDz05xuA08JU3T9SKKOjs6D8c/aQnoNXb7zd e8E+9vG5PpbluJ6X7bkbZQU5UhGnbTwn3Qtro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder From: Butch Band To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b277419b48049f177058 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:42:04 +0000 (UTC) --00504502b277419b48049f177058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello from Central Virginia: I just sold off a Zoom H4N and with it went the stereo mikes I used to record my living room jams. I bought a Zoom R24 for some of the added features it furnishes (add'l tracks, sampler pads, included loops, et al). Now, it also has some onboard stereo microphones which I have yet to test - but it strikes me that the placement of the microphones on the R24 are not optimal and don't offer the flexibility of the H4N. Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphones) to use for a home recording application involving the recording of a one-man band? THX! Regards, Butch --00504502b277419b48049f177058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello from Central Virginia:
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I just sold off a Zoom H4N and with it went the stereo mikes I used to= record my living room jams. I bought a Zoom R24 for some of the added feat= ures it furnishes (add'l tracks, sampler pads, included loops, et al). = Now, it also has some onboard stereo microphones which I have yet to test -= but it strikes me that the placement of the microphones on the R24 are not= optimal and don't offer the flexibility of the H4N.
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Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphon= es) to use for a home recording application involving the recording of a on= e-man band? THX!
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Regards, Butch
--00504502b277419b48049f177058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 19:54:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A488218349D; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HQQYBsIGbuaThLdyeNQ4yg)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-22_06:2011-03-21,2011-03-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103220140 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:54:24 -0700 In-reply-to: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Message-id: <8D9F180F-B6D5-4352-B8E0-99DD9224AED0@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:54:39 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_HQQYBsIGbuaThLdyeNQ4yg) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have done what you describe below, Andy. Though consulting $ are not my motive, I can help you in a limited mentoring fashion. I gotta warn you... if you don't understand how things are configured under the hood, you will be needing more than just config support to fly the craft. Its of critical importance to know how it all works if you are going to have a positive piloting experience with your rig. That said, if you have never programmed a midi controls for looping in Ableton or Mobius, I could greatly shorten your learning curve in about an hour of hands on training -- provided you have the necessary gear on hand, you would come out the other end with a functional looper config and modicum of knowledge about how to add additional controls to your dashboard. R u Mac or Windows based? Daniel On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, but would pay someone to set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that simply comes close to emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, an interface where I can see there status and some simple mangling like reverse, half speed, such as that. > > So if someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets talk. > > Andy o --Boundary_(ID_HQQYBsIGbuaThLdyeNQ4yg) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I have done what you describe below, Andy. =  Though consulting $ are not my motive, I can help you in a = limited mentoring fashion.  

 I gotta warn = you... if you don't understand how things are configured under the hood, = you will be needing more than just config support to fly the craft. =  Its of critical importance to know how it all works if you are = going to have a positive piloting experience with your rig.  That = said, if you have never programmed a midi controls for looping in = Ableton or Mobius, I could greatly shorten your learning curve in about = an hour of hands on training -- provided you have the necessary gear on = hand, you would come out the other end with a functional looper config = and modicum of knowledge about how to add additional controls to your = dashboard.



R = u Mac or Windows = based?


Daniel 
On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Andy Owens wrote:

I have no time to learn to set all this stuff up, = but would pay someone to set me up a system in Ableton and Mobius that = simply comes close to emulating the LP1, in other words, eight tracks, = an interface where I can see there status and some simple mangling like = reverse, half speed, such as that.
So if = someone is into that as a paying little design gig, lets = talk.
Andy = o

= --Boundary_(ID_HQQYBsIGbuaThLdyeNQ4yg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 20:01:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8950C1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 514408.30841.bm@omp1054.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300824110; bh=MIQJMHzjLA9LUzqC+U9crdAb2TMi48c4AAEKYy0FBjE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oteV/np9VULDpBPcilxJD7iFRp1VUME3Pc3PvBFKqwL1keXMWDdl5tPj2Ouujf7+uR3r7GxvgwjK9s7QpMACqz82kDot8DSVNtVrevNlWhXfSnOJPsTCApN3PViCAYos+FvHGNIC/RAxBDqUSO1/6bDZECbnJTzV13vskWWxgPE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VseCTq5Dc6uyf5U9AyozXfU4BcXqQ/ZSwlQXNSWszQgiPrXaNA/SZXNPMdpso9r++QbNv82uGRva4XXya5QI1EH49g38dc229y8cV2poEmUba2qfRe3e7Xj6ViJNkcImQd+hFlfsytXkqU9Xy45Ct1Qf96CQPyGLD8GH2yLa68E=; Message-ID: <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ihTispsVM1ktH93GOwSGWqwpcAe9JzBIfNYxRM9nllpdHIY peH6pg6hYaZ5zW7lr40ywoNV8Ew8gTv4Erx5GIdwsGd072je5xpgQC1wovUN u70FCLxjJTO2IcIa_.Sn1qgMDw.F2eum0yGWKdPqcHOx36xpLNiihKO91yrN Zat.pYrwuyS7tY6Ly8ew4gN_.yb2jrJ8ER0C7ciFwCgQA968RuCNDeNvOXWZ swUr6hffJFn4xp4f3aZBke6sB9aHQyyDFgACPdMrV9jIN3StBXpwn.RJ1qag PXGfvw5qcXFGOgLguepMxjq1ec9LXrpfPw9kRxSosT8idb6vHqF5KPXoncD7 71uBkqXw3eZ6OMb_438mc9mC_5w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-629895186-1300824110=:53955" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:01:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-629895186-1300824110=:53955 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm going to dive in and tell you once I get my hands dirty. Antony ________________________________ From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Per Boysen Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 6:51:20 PM Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad Mobius does support OSC, but it is difficult to configure (editing XML) if you don't have an OSC client that can send custom messages. I think the newer versions of TouchOSC support custom message so I can provide more information about the Mobius message format if anyone is interested, but if you also want to control Ableton it is probably easier just to use Osculator for both. Jeff On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Per Boysen wrote: Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't >support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I >don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means >Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC >control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control >templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an >editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface. >http://hexler.net/ > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com >www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > >On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, wrote: >> >> hello, >> what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is >>Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the >>story here:-) >> Antony > > --0-629895186-1300824110=:53955 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm going to dive in and tell you once I get my hands dirty.

Antony

From: Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 6:51:20 PM
Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad

Mobius does support OSC, but it is difficult to configure (editing XML) if you
don't have an OSC client that can send custom messages.  I think the
newer versions of TouchOSC support custom message so I can provide more
information about the Mobius message format if anyone is interested, but if you also
want to control Ableton it is probably easier just to use Osculator for both.

Jeff


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Osculator is only needed if the application to be controlled doesn't
support OSC. What Osculator does is to translate OSC into MIDI. I
don't think neither Live nor Mobius yet support OSC, which means
Osculator is needed. TouchOSC is regarded the best iOS app for OSC
control over a wifi net. It comes with a bunch of useful control
templates (mixers, faders, buttons and stuff) but they also offer an
editor for those who want to create their own graphic interface.
http://hexler.net/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub


On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> hello,
> what is the best app to control Ableton Live and Mobius from an iPhone/iPad? Is Osculator necessary in any case? Is there a dedicated app for Live? What's the story here:-)
> Antony



--0-629895186-1300824110=:53955-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 20:27:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB16D1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 593115512/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.191.30/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.191.30 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmcCALeiiE1V0r8e/2dsb2JhbAAMmD2WO7s8hWgEkDE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,226,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="593115512" Message-ID: <4D89062C.6090801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:27:24 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:27:03 +0000 (UTC) More details??? Cost? Phantom power? Aspirations? then there'll be suggestions andy Butch Band wrote: > Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or > microphones) to use for a home recording application involving the > recording of a one-man band? THX! > > Regards, Butch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 20:31:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A694C1834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PlcZod0UAEPEyNzMJMFMd77dNf6sGGiwdYTRbwt/8so=; b=Dde8OfEa+8doQ9MorveDj46NMExTm/PO32wg/kOUC54Mzv/8nAmx8yz05xCzFNNWZ5 MyeIp4GXLGsJ6HsQzBZ/ajAfAyHBWfm3voM5TIo+x+1fWX3FR+4Lp1t7lbcXczgHFkPr eUsgPqPehb6PMXMg6gyNZlaZWCLOBNmpk/6sI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=huwL6HfNJ5zMJIfVrJnc+eM5N1glD47h6z2/mxdtAnw6GLbQpAYcd8grbwkbCjXpXG UgfHQEsIPrY3r6bAHedjNzbN06r0kuHNB76KLrAxMzeugj+u+nQhixxovKH0e382bbHq r1CpfnNYwV/bgEO4prfk89pArWfqZxQ1WbAY8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:31:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: j0EZDPJjmdnabJrqs0MFeI2xtTI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:31:40 +0000 (UTC) > I'm going=A0to dive in and tell you once I get my hands dirty. > Antony I had some success in controlling Audio Mulch with the TouchOSC > Osculator combo.. so I thought I would give this a try for fun. But starting simple, just try to get Mobius controlled by the iPhone... So I made a simple 4 track layout using the editor... http://hexler.net/mint/pepper/orderedlist/downloads/download.php?file=3Dhtt= p%3A//hexler.net/pub/touchosc/touchosc-editor-1.4.2-osx.zip Went into Osculator and made the ness suggested midi things, in this case CCs I thought... Then fired up Mobius,here I had to first re-scan the midi wotsits, but usiong the Audio/midi setup tool, THEN I had to restart Mobius, but when I check the midi devices .. Osculatro WAS there on so I selected it.. so far so good... But heres wher I hit the brick wall... In order to have one slider on the iphone control 4 track volumes in Mobius, I had to FIND the midi binding in Mobius... Under controls, it says Feedback Input Level, Oustput Level, Pan and Secondary feedback... BUT NOT PER TRACK... only one, because usually only ONE is selected... usually handy, but here I need to access each tracks binding seperately... did this make sense? Jeff? Hjelp? Mark --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 20:34:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C30D41834A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0XvxqZie0gpE62PBOR2bVuJGUaAK07SkBZ4TEW/HoK0=; b=uIYEVQzhrglwtf95t8kdXcXkRVwB6QjYzpmcWI9Q1WDdeXTjwDkM9fBQR8tuDcT++O TGm/3IgvxhtBBrQU4FsK76WScURQ6iyUOKIPY3CRjp3eYZB9Rl8UlvSSZTQ+IGjiBOnA nRKcCst/C9Spze8xIrPVMd/5bOpQlbElPYFZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YZc5Lpj2WZDmTgQGYqWeDFkGIdNJ/0TjzekzwW7yjgLVHpRPBBy/xw0nuYXawpUbvu x5fj5377Cs/D6eCzfKs/c6sa5sIkepYE5EtNxvCBEXUb0QtEhy7lftPUihte8IaF/Zd2 irjeKmWDxm7hi5vq93dQRaiuoiun9wMAWOhyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:34:30 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nXE6ipUpTSNklBSGz1vZXxORCIU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Did you see this BTW Antony? http://www.osculator.net/2009/01/27/use-your-iphone-or-ipod-with-ableton-live/ might be some use... -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 20:38:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C362A1834A3; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KcsxHoN+UWWD8spmhex4ONL3g86aS39bYw2dL1OiN24=; b=T3FzCiSAyiyabZMe3nIOhOjIVX0udYd2LjRCcvVuiL09C2F2JVNewGHhld64wk4ZRV PiZCrypB8HIv75N6h+8gY4eFFBN/dDYor4cV7ZOBv5VWe/+WqKmpADKKikDwgHCYY4DQ uRbtwJA7z4qBsNQePsxjgyqNordkGZeW3qUOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BO8qoD0On/o+fCnukGJUgpxqnSuW/vkmYuBu9vIjmkgOwmzMam+aGIN0McbCQejF5v sA1nOkhgJuMcNKXU/TgLalR0ChE6/PQ2aYxPwtRmgW2dT8a28m3JE74d7CRlmiqg83Dy hc35Sbga7JOerHbVEXKnMKZIfZt/aR1XI7cDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:38:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mark francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b16e99a1759049f183b07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b16e99a1759049f183b07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > But heres wher I hit the brick wall... In order to have one slider on > the iphone control 4 track volumes in Mobius, I had to FIND the midi > binding in Mobius... Under controls, it says Feedback Input Level, > Oustput Level, Pan and Secondary feedback... BUT NOT PER TRACK... only > one, because usually only ONE is selected... usually handy, but here I > need to access each tracks binding seperately... When you create a MIDI binding, one of the things you can select is "Scope". The default scope is "Global" which means the currently selected track. The scope field is a pulldown menu that has an item for each track. So, for each Mobius control (input, output, pan, etc.) you would create 8 bindings. Each binding would have a different MIDI CC number and a different track selected in the scope menu. Jeff --bcaec51b16e99a1759049f183b07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> But heres wher I hit the brick wall... In order to have one slide= r on
> the iphone control 4 track volumes in Mobius, I had to = FIND the midi
> binding in Mobius... Under controls, it says F= eedback Input Level,
> Oustput Level, Pan and Secondary feedback... BUT NOT PER TRACK...= only
> one, because usually only ONE is selected... usually h= andy, but here I
> need to access each tracks binding seperate= ly...

When you create a MIDI binding, one of the things you c= an select is
"Scope". =A0The default scope is "Glo= bal" which means the currently
selected track. =A0The scope = field is a pulldown menu that has an item
for each track. =A0So, for each Mobius control (input, output, pan,
etc.) =A0you would create 8 bindings. =A0Each binding would have a<= /div>
different MIDI CC number and a different track selected in the sc= ope
menu. =A0

Jeff

--bcaec51b16e99a1759049f183b07-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 21:00:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2651218349D; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:00:30 +0100 Message-ID: <80DE22F71750454ABF2311906F1280F0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvowOqFmiZjaUQBTgKRlUhv+7VTYwAEzAgg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:00:33 +0000 (UTC) > Michael but you have the PMC10 right? not using it anymore? I might go back to using it. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 21:36:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAE191834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300829808; bh=7f8hAj+SYJEjBtXHLA206bF/cYKYWf8jhskuTFz6On4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ok0a2oyqbFXc4EeVujMOPD6hLEaUbagRNT9uB/RIFP/fq5vz6XH6Pc+zLXr/fqdOR/x0AFlPWnY8geiIEfdz84v4741kOITBGVYV7nKBBLN+2ke5CRX9j2/Sf9yyOqbYKZRiSI07B1dUbaZLp2krAFZH9NO5eIl+oFBl37yt/cI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vw18X28IA0RGY/7AAFHMK4O74kt/paYIBY3PuirRG6cnGG6bVAp3S1sRCrQKC4tYJHBT5dnElrK8s0frka2nKdG98wQX8w8nKsRYlKB2a1yBNWtVdjy8c0aHDnDb8Msdl0EN4QhIWvVsP+vAA/luwU3/nFyhrQnhAQK34iWF5R0=; Message-ID: <243086.9989.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pikUmrEVM1n28hp0mYAb.W173D3AVnYaDnhDfwjSU8.BQxE ugpYOrViBa2Ow5GLOrsFNdGlYsziO7aVHj7EzglDBJ.okwXX6YsHhtPiC_ov V_YSXkyZjmu0q_Drq4LWtKZ7kdUbIjt7MbTN8OdfrDmMpGER0X9Ttdo3Dmpe xTpQKVEiq4plX5dtUJpmhgN9BPv50yaHrmuTXjYfFAtKZsGuDy3IDht.CA5_ 92FRXruazhXz_ao2vWKZ_Vf59rfrX36BBHu58PthLMEBD3lwChL1XiNgGZx3 mk88L.i4uFNzh1_HYzmoni1y0MlI_qO.bEX2t_OovtKO85MsDmY8hXXavvoy Zw7ruUdbmPzBtSO30WqZAytjJ8ktsGO.dfdaVPfH0Vl0doRCmvajidx2frmY YZOSuMsYp_8j20Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D89062C.6090801@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, For spread around stuff,, PZM. For up close detail,,SE condenser with phan= tom power pre-amp, (Paia tube mic pre-amp kit). Rig --- On Tue, 3/22/11, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 1:27 PM > More details??? >=20 > Cost? > Phantom power? >=20 > Aspirations? >=20 > then there'll be suggestions >=20 > andy >=20 > Butch Band wrote: >=20 > > Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced > microphone (or microphones) to use for a home recording > application involving the recording of a one-man band? THX! > >=A0 Regards, Butch >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 21:38:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFCCC18349F; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300829883; bh=aXcXLezBKuqx+wTQRznvKuZ1K7HwCb88ttjUdwg/7vk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hwymbTC2sf2+spQ7gdxvYxLtLIorajRRh0Bq7S5I2Xs9Kc6w8G/mS44oBsm3iKqCJr/GB385DFtC03efhZNW7i48iaVCbskoz6McNQhUdKnrPJDYJ5V9lKSbZf7xZBh5JRIZyRKQFlUg0sZaLouPAmlzd7aO7TtsHuuqNQdEooc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w4jqJGyCMAm3MxfY3KPPqilrVndgOP0+cIJF98gPjaGnGC/orW5p7UUC8AVd6SIsOO1o8j0AE1ZBr5ufwKJY/y+2BFwzCTnd+TiMh67U/WP14GJn7/bx3DieUFYrMFLmZfdDMVTfSc8cheOfInKbHZj80VjOSeSKVCtaQRXRFGA=; Message-ID: <162732.5277.qm@web32506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xxjrYCgVM1ks4T8oicpG4bhkO.8cnKYSqLHNq_0gsVX97DW Q7ZRkXwgBQJ.MOIl_E1lb7Pi4mL.bk9hhpFajdybwXEp.B8vzWHPzrxaZtwa LfYRL_oNBO1ve4C8AbO2Y8J45or1uWQotNtNQvUGjB7RqDAG7yE.lL.LHW_N 4ElbkDLAZyCjuA_JjV1JApzxjD2OeqLYyfzrsUkesr2cAIngYRQ2rvSimVNs CC0mXLEW7TjI3Z6OkomtStAnOrdRl7vmw6Y7d0t3RmfKaY9Zu0TwVcq7x2hS ratzA.oSjw3SGBY3ZXlASElLfvs1VNV5hcguRb8amgLTyxILRYlIfANKTCy6 QvZl9z8OrC0DcxIsI37FYYFB_U4Dfb_YsXSG.rKBZLZxUpiCcDZWaGf3bl5X YfTJ6UQDj_yzx X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:38:03 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1103732848-1300829883=:5277" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:38:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1103732848-1300829883=:5277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =A0 =A0Make that 2 PZMs,,or condenser. The PAIA kit can be bought for stereo. Rig --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Butch Band wrote: From: Butch Band Subject: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 12:42 PM Hello from Central Virginia: =A0 I just sold off a Zoom H4N and with it went the stereo mikes I used to reco= rd my living room jams. I bought a Zoom R24 for some of the added features = it furnishes (add'l tracks, sampler pads, included loops, et al). Now, it a= lso has some onboard stereo microphones which I have yet to test - but it s= trikes me that the placement of the microphones on the R24 are not optimal = and don't offer the flexibility of the H4N.=20 =A0 Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphones) t= o use for a home recording application involving the recording of a one-man= band? THX! =A0 Regards, Butch=0A=0A=0A --0-1103732848-1300829883=:5277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy,
 
 Make that 2 PZMs,,or condenser. The PAIA kit can be bought for s= tereo.
Rig

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Butch Band <butchband@gmail.c= om> wrote:

From: Butch Band <butchband@gmail.com>
S= ubject: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder
To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 12:42 PM

Hello from Central Virginia:
 
I just sold off a Zoom H4N and with it went the stereo mikes I used to= record my living room jams. I bought a Zoom R24 for some of the added feat= ures it furnishes (add'l tracks, sampler pads, included loops, et al). Now,= it also has some onboard stereo microphones which I have yet to test - but= it strikes me that the placement of the microphones on the R24 are not opt= imal and don't offer the flexibility of the H4N.
 
Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphon= es) to use for a home recording application involving the recording of a on= e-man band? THX!
 
Regards, Butch

=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1103732848-1300829883=:5277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 22:10:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABC361834A1; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 591174.48964.bm@omp1044.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300831828; bh=QO18+ELjhLrbwQZ8jbGEVIMtqLwcsHp5tKZz1qA1IHo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LkHQ9Ad/Fim1e9bcjrCyVB/kVx93qeZurctJGhwGGoErm+Nq6JR+oYLQh7LOnauLUPnHwbq/UHtML6igVr7jjj84ZeQ39ddmAP3S/3QmHM1QTrGdfkbG0h5zyP6rEnosQ6oiDPX9o2Mhv5CJQTJG2SHypqyj1SK77FWraMlXhLE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u8tfjQFWHwYcjLB+PoH0RJ2jA2u0xTpf2NN78PLDmQklbrbRSnhNugJCBjKIvhOeaMO3FCHAcKFwpfE5hIyJC0FbzVg0zDVlJjIolQ42ihPJ9BbpMDSn8xDl5YYEGppebAaM8SekDzzngXIYHcrxYrxgiAqkaNM5zd51tl8ettE=; Message-ID: <484510.34178.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PYQHxtEVM1ll4LvHRd8oL2C5_c38v3hJZagPyCAU9Ajv2U3 64NHRAmyNEp0gIF4aa1Xr3K0MbD739k0ZgaX7RdsQyk75VPbOiX3E4tiVxj2 kDU8pGTGI0aBSjnUDnOU9jK9OL4ZAbqLLsznAlDj.cNW_sxPMtZxEqCQWBI4 nwsP_UXfJEKebT.aTvUSOm1l3tG_0ZnnCUZeryeAdFLqHXKpnQjqOAfbFT85 pYwPU_kn0WYbeym1PFLa3QGjuDmSiHXG21zYh1EV0Nqy67a12SC6MfEzmJvY rZUobPHJW3DVFXV5RHD2Qix6nGrXEAOCt13eiCcuE4IF5Nwt2QVsMkblNUEf b6zmAtQgwf6A8wJgxcGkJFyxa6A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <424867.53955.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1802018698-1300831828=:34178" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:10:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1802018698-1300831828=:34178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey, thanks a lot! Antony ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:34:30 PM Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad Did you see this BTW Antony? http://www.osculator.net/2009/01/27/use-your-iphone-or-ipod-with-ableton-live/ might be some use... -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0-1802018698-1300831828=:34178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

thanks a lot!

Antony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: Live/Mobius iPhone iPad

Did you see this BTW Antony?

http://www.osculator.net/2009/01/27/use-your-iphone-or-ipod-with-ableton-live/

might be some use...

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--0-1802018698-1300831828=:34178-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 22 22:44:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B24E818349C; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D89265B.6050306@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:44:43 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Butch Band CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:44:53 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: > Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or > microphones) to use for a home recording application involving the > recording of a one-man band? 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I think it's the best microphone deal in the universe considering how inexpensive it is. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 01:27:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA2511834A1; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 64.180.193.121 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=z142bJkMWqDP2XEzlxQnuwIoOh3xLk/o5216ri01DCg= c=1 sm=2 a=w_8qk9o9TV4A:10 a=kZCaSYHnAAAA:8 a=AmuB-pcYAAAA:8 a=x9LQtntrAAAA:8 a=JLWaRogUAAAA:8 a=o1L5_4Ve3L76Jouw2QUA:9 a=4gB_bXLO8dMI7LVLAx0A:7 a=0d9dSNl2spxLuHlnbDKvjzggNIcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=X6RhfD9xm7QA:10 a=9dKDUTTeGJsA:10 a=4g1Un4FPLDYA:10 a=k9XOtJXmrMMA:10 a=--55_gwAXPMtLaeQe7UA:9 a=1mdVr12z-uzz9-exOpoA:7 a=n2Ndqy-RaksZNN2LhNp-WS4JlRoA:4 From: richard sales Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-413927126 Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:27:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4D89265B.6050306@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D89265B.6050306@cruzio.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <4o-dHB.A.r1F.dyUiNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-413927126 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't know if you've seen this yet but Sound Toys has a free plug in = called Devil Loc. It's a compressor distortion plug. Just log in or = sign up and enter this registration code 250-7193-322. You need an ILok to use it, though.=20 R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: >> Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or = microphones) to use for a home recording application involving the = recording of a one-man band? THX! > Sony makes a really delightful small and inexpensive stereo microphone = that, saliently, records > fairly flat across the timbral spectrum from 20 hz to 20,000 hz, = called the Sony ECM S907. >=20 > B+H has it here for a very reasonable $64 USD >=20 > = http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150434-REG/Sony_ECMMS907_ECM_MS907_S= tereo_Mic.html >=20 > If you use some of the freeware Convolution reverbs that are available = these days and find yourself > some Impulse files of very, very expensive condenser microphones this = makes this little > puppy a particularly effective and versatile little tool. >=20 > It is so small that I just velcro it to the top of my current Canon = video camera. > It fits in one's pocket. >=20 > I think it's the best microphone deal in the universe considering how = inexpensive it is. >=20 > rick walker >=20 --Apple-Mail-4-413927126 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Don't = know if you've seen this yet but Sound Toys has a free plug in called = Devil Loc.  It's a compressor distortion plug.  Just log in or = sign up and enter this registration code
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On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote:
Any = recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphones) to = use for a home recording application involving the recording of a = one-man band? THX!
Sony makes a really delightful small = and inexpensive stereo microphone that, saliently, records
fairly = flat across the timbral spectrum from 20 hz to 20,000 hz,  called = the Sony ECM S907.

B+H has it here for a very reasonable $64 = USD

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150434-REG/S= ony_ECMMS907_ECM_MS907_Stereo_Mic.html

If you use some of the = freeware Convolution reverbs that are available these days and find = yourself
some Impulse files of very, very expensive condenser = microphones this makes this little
puppy a particularly effective and = versatile little tool.

It is so small that I just velcro it to = the top of my current Canon video camera.
It fits in one's = pocket.

I think it's the best microphone deal in the universe = considering how inexpensive it is.

rick = walker


= --Apple-Mail-4-413927126-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 01:49:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43B471834A0; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yvz4/IxzRr4LXojFPyq+ziBARSKIMvIzOC34c6Pbw0Q=; b=Sspb7Hf9gkQCrwJbi+U9TQ+K5htkMY0S90f8SGVdWH3kwtPcMR3b1Ml1ytvg6UlZDg JNT4+zuU2qwmuwvXivqyN02P+n4GCxJ7axiyFdBi7LyqvyY+XjIXfWpYHLzWbnhU3Dgi rvDkOAz/zotRdcrc6fs/4I0349IxPt/RyjXsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G3axTwxUwTopI0z6+SFubZUspuOsqny2BytNW/2YTCb/9EkEHUFK6CRverDuBq9J/l EQVv9iteb8sDH8ZNttNRNuQzk+Vs1jMLJkXvgyceBjYVTSwkss28FcUi6/Q8V8BA6gOQ GmPMbtopTlB2zNH2QJ5YL9vXdfgnHr0uWBQwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:49:41 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius latency compensation From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should and stay there on subsequent passes. A couple of attempts have ended in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. But... Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. This would seem to be a bit of a dealbreaker for the kind of highly rhythmic, danceable music I'm looking to use the mobius/live combo for. I'm at the point of shelling out for a layla 3g interface so it'd be great to know if this is going to scupper my plans. Akraf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 02:51:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C25B51834A1; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-39-418950167 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:51:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:51:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-39-418950167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak" My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozing to the surface.... Thanks Bill --Apple-Mail-39-418950167 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sim Sez; "i ask, because i = could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which = you speak"
My = thoughts exactly,  I'm wondering what is the essential  reason = for running one platform inside another?   Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or = superlooper in Abelton.  Is it for managing effects plug ins or = more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect = issues oozing to the surface....
Thanks
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-39-418950167-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 03:12:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969FF1834A1; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6U3G8PwPfWHSH1rBAFl4bl1T2uwGY4Cv95qhYT8reIw=; b=P2wbTIs/IQLuynbldzd5puXZaMxzJvGxerGFTgyQhIceOlo3ysJkaHb4TpNutJr7mN ugpHQgiv+eobC7JrGA+0Wcsi1Mib9Ybiy8kxGzFpDggjC0CQe9HwjqO17+efvizSLgBX FjNc0zBzFL+mV09T8xlPmrw1lo1quAifrOMPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Cx1nkR7HhtR2HOOvJ2+mJM+vrSrE/1wpaoZCn4QcnayKBAiPDorhYKme0lVD6TvWXO B8rFKTgpfHiVhTkRx2r7UIMOG/ghaNIcmzqY7h1agF3l0dqHN0rUifXqbrEUCRbuAzx8 8GAirBWnkVxFwqonEa6HItoiDXK5wv1pd0al8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Akraf Emaho Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325556dee213126049f1dbbd8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:12:33 +0000 (UTC) --000325556dee213126049f1dbbd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should > and stay there on subsequent passes. A couple of attempts have ended > in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the > built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation guide: http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. It is possible for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the Audio Devices window. Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. This is explained in the manual. If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that have very low latency. Often people don't even bother tuning latency compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it is off by a few milliseconds. As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. I have had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you should still consider an external interface. > Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's > not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location relative to your monitor speakers. Jeff --000325556dee213126049f1dbbd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I've been trying to set up the above so overdu= bs go where they should
> and stay there on subsequent passes.= =A0A couple of attempts have ended
> in frustration, i figure= d not helped by the fact that I'm using the
> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine.

If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installa= tion guide:



Assuming you are using Windows, if you a= re using the built-in sound card
you will be using an "MME&q= uot; driver which has very high latency. =A0It is possible
for Mo= bius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but
you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the
Audio Devices window. =A0Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what=
the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it= manually.
This is explained in the manual.

If you use a= pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that
have ver= y low latency. =A0Often people don't even bother tuning latency
compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it<= /div>
is off by a few milliseconds.

As an alte= rnative to buying a pro interface you could also try
ASIO4ALL whi= ch will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. =A0I have
had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality y= ou
should still consider an external interface.

> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Pe= r it's
> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a = bit.

I'm not sure what this was referring to, = but you can certainly tune
latency compesnation for exact alignme= nt of overdubs and once set it
won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location
relative to your monitor speakers.

Jeff

--000325556dee213126049f1dbbd8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 05:48:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1A54183453; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JgoavuDpn4z13Pf9mbQZwB+s7E7uE/i4kSh99VkPqYI=; b=KSrAsXd42UNre1UV0TFET0ReKnHKAqKSnzr66o9GD2nZZ2Ep6e9XJbFg2dbnAraWC+ cFjV1oJsqvqDflX9WQ6R7OD5EBMT0Pet9k1JVY40IW/7W6E1CRv6MmKL1XQyEvV9DWHN qT43NzpgodLmjb83tUNfj1svOuU/wCbw3ihSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h1RL0DzIie6v1yaKWI44gEp78jmc4JsU/E8ye7HIvvNpSypWye1i+6htWKS8Om0Zxr 6TedPZ437/laysOHDd4kt0EQ7sE/CU5ybvUC3EpENZqxMxaS1DQUe+09IU3tOvHM7Uws j9Yx5C09eNfWlVivlMuTheP85jATnQRRDNIhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <80DE22F71750454ABF2311906F1280F0@mpeserver> References: <80DE22F71750454ABF2311906F1280F0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:48:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:48:48 +0000 (UTC) im really happy using it again,i was lucky to find one unsed,its gotta be the best foot controller outthere i wish we could convince Digitech to release it again i hope it lasts! Luis On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> Michael but you have the PMC10 right? not using it anymore? > > I might go back to using it. > > -Michael > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 06:59:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA16718349D; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4377653e-f13b-4d8d-98cb-43f9ef0be677_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.36.116] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: latency figures Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:59:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2011 06:59:32.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC88A490:01CBE927] Resent-Message-ID: <2EHZT.A.wKF.VpZiNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 06:59:34 +0000 (UTC) --_4377653e-f13b-4d8d-98cb-43f9ef0be677_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C I may be in a position to purchase a new PC laptop soon and will have= to trawl thrugh the myriad tech spec jungle so... Who's got the lowest latency figures?=20 Advice on quad core vs dual vs 8 core=2C amount of ram=2C 64 bit vs 32 bit = etc.=20 I'll be running Ableton Live firing loops=2C processing guitar=2C interpre= ting midi commands=2C synching to another computer and=2C if there's spare = capacity=2C runing Arkaos VJ software.=20 I want 1 computer to do all this - it can be done - I used to run vj softwa= re with AudioMulch back in the day with aroound 10ms and that was years ago= on trusty windoze XP. I've now migrated to win7. so what performance are you gettin=2C (PC only though) Peace and ever lower latency Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ = --_4377653e-f13b-4d8d-98cb-43f9ef0be677_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C I may be in a position to purchase a new PC laptop soon and will have= to trawl thrugh the myriad tech spec jungle
so... Who's got the lowest = latency figures?
Advice on quad core vs dual vs 8 core=2C amount of ram= =2C 64 bit vs 32 bit etc.
I'll be running Ableton Live =3B firing l= oops=2C processing guitar=2C interpreting midi commands=2C synching to anot= her computer and=2C if there's spare capacity=2C runing Arkaos VJ software.=
I want 1 computer to do all this - it can be done - I used to run vj s= oftware with AudioMulch back in the day with aroound 10ms and that was year= s ago on trusty windoze XP.
I've now migrated to win7.
so what perfor= mance are you gettin=2C (PC only though)

Peace and ever lower latenc= y

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= --_4377653e-f13b-4d8d-98cb-43f9ef0be677_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 07:54:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ACD518349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 705624.43160.bm@omp1018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300866850; bh=mrGQxHXxgjG4yZT39wFFPlLlPtNC/RpM2b3jTGB8W4M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JKfW77YzQX66mCfJ3OEomb6oSv7Zm3IG4x5PmpagOyVIrv565JQnEVgRpjasQImpyxHRGQGOFuMXcwWDlqBYNb6R+jMclSTVOeyFHbrn182+YBQgVpoJ8qjn0vmppdn9m6UUMAQouiAlYzQ0MeApDkUJOykFouI3WIbD8aVsiW4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=blxwuUCY0VZyNor4gzBObCUOwYJBLZuslpMG2QmcynvyGzL4o3rdKVCzqoDD9zUZoT6fA2PFdVRaH5bvC4KpT5gi5ZWEx6SVh/TOlhqyGALj2QUm6Oc44hVxwwTwvamCDRHNT5z6RvLmRZm96r+YidjKcjvGSJ/M9SVtBCLLzx0=; Message-ID: <620148.38637.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: l0suQEoVM1nI2JoavoUhub0xwuRtqKROj2b.Ba0KR0H90Yb b_97z1IOFRohrDNfrhqRZVRWIsiRFvXSFxZc8.U7ImBNL52urM.7_2HaL43O 9mL16jFgZ9_yDhFHkDsjRFCs3jI9aLC60M2MzAUdWMYcsNv4xn9Qb.dtJx8W soFlt7ctV5t1OPVuw65IfrHDOiDOwAJ4hTiopQH7Gkz_UeZzRQ7fhqU8xjTs GKvo8chjS2z92HFlCzmTMD3l2BYT_t_3Lns8Q0VnAKpklnu0usi74wNH8Osz Pm8q9oHtZIbEBDD1kyByKVedHIzOhRbPWz5_.wdGMiIXnQmGSgLxEa1_NbfT 4nr_iKcFQpEX69pnTrgfVMiYRT.PB X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:54:10 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-140715877-1300866850=:38637" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:54:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-140715877-1300866850=:38637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii actually, can you run Mobius and Ableton in parallel? Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 3:51:37 AM Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak" My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozing to the surface.... Thanks Bill --0-140715877-1300866850=:38637 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
actually,

can you run Mobius and Ableton in parallel?

Antony Hequet

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 3:51:37 AM
Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig

Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak"

My thoughts exactly,  I'm wondering what is the essential  reason for running one platform inside another?   Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or superlooper in Abelton.  Is it for managing effects plug ins or more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozing to the surface....
Thanks
 Bill

--0-140715877-1300866850=:38637-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 07:56:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72F7218349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 651588.91109.bm@omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300867007; bh=H0VsnPvru+joRGQ+cRL3Kur8g+r86SxHmV74SDRgeqY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IsiSwb6otgIZd44A/OBEtiKD0op3RLHFcZTDDAWf15QFzMeW90d5m6Pj1LRJzZ9V+gBF3AcCmRXOLfUnvvyRMZwfpX7sCclwiD2/+gwaPO1/0HdjyXKYTzmXR6r9Mf475ecddEPzmznyC7xdFP8LW3m0PfxME81dJx0U01BLQUw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yu4W6bXAO747GeRx6qzBfqvTndCYZ5OXAurCZ29riwRwf054U3j+gIa6/T7oZvVlmyic5Bs/WYcnc03Lza+AbVpytb5as9NCK5vyRDTRS9uaXK+8gaxyVP4ffEX1grWZclhFp7dzSN5eUPeJPEOPTwagYx7IfNUoGRNcnDR/BhU=; Message-ID: <454507.96649.qm@web120713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: w416Y5UVM1kTR2K.W5SocI4EroRzX4kLF9uWZlQchX8jc3g jkXhs7YtZnbv194oRnt6C6NRYjU1Mgcjhl5q2Ujexerds40H6h9fLECRAdzQ Msfpxv9b3HnaD8rZuKLsminntk8cl3FnAmb5PnnTD7tsG5mHIgEGTNFuNsQC V..sinOaRjJqGKOVjTqTNdwqPVIHyZA4n4Yir3dryuOuah3cm0f4Y_SIkjHZ .zt33w7xt5Zm7BhPnl0HO6KtjmcZZtcmq22avztvWKU2E6Cdc_2mmcw16DRo 9vqMU1W2IASo2H6_mKUSOtHg9Oebxo9QEJCyW5.HtOjv8OHRA1tSEBlSQ8F7 EfRNkddQWOqp.yv1e8oGzIg4Atw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:56:46 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: OT TC studioKoonekt 48 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-535020007-1300867006=:96649" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:56:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-535020007-1300867006=:96649 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii speaking of latency, does anyone have experience with theTC studioKoonekt 48? I hear the preamps are good and sound quality excellent but there may be latency issues with drivers... Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Akraf Emaho Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:12:29 AM Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation > I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should > and stay there on subsequent passes. A couple of attempts have ended > in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the > built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation guide: http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. It is possible for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the Audio Devices window. Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. This is explained in the manual. If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that have very low latency. Often people don't even bother tuning latency compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it is off by a few milliseconds. As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. I have had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you should still consider an external interface. > Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's > not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location relative to your monitor speakers. Jeff --0-535020007-1300867006=:96649 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
speaking of latency, does anyone have experience with theTC studioKoonekt 48? I hear the preamps are good and sound quality excellent but there may be latency issues with drivers...

Antony Hequet

From: Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Cc: Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 4:12:29 AM
Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation


> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should
> and stay there on subsequent passes.  A couple of attempts have ended
> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the
> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine.

If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation guide:



Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card
you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency.  It is possible
for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but
you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the
Audio Devices window.  Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what
the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually.
This is explained in the manual.

If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that
have very low latency.  Often people don't even bother tuning latency
compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it
is off by a few milliseconds.

As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try
ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver.  I have
had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you
should still consider an external interface.

> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's
> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit.

I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune
latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it
won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location
relative to your monitor speakers.

Jeff


--0-535020007-1300867006=:96649-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 08:03:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D60183486; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VEsRCwByaQ6IEDeM3QbTr+z9sC8Nw3aqRNjwaMIDu6o=; b=QYVnA/PCKrazWah5zlDLS/3BO9HT2565YuabV5I/XUgP9TDeNfsSAYwxUSg028I7IH HTq9Un+tvRs/DKaQzHXfo/Or3AP5YGcYqRNfIpq5JzjGGuUnvBOr7biFqJ3xM5u45I94 uXOtLbNK9KaZ2ouzWHsTdRVdyyl05ygItGjno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jPiQ/eG+oxkr1xORte9dIiw3WcoSCx7GC6w2Y3xm8DsuBXqUs9hPIpW310t8hdtL9a Cg+uL0LqGnuQCJOzzidXW0fokNblQGwlfYNdwOzHaaRzmqObKGUPQfZvE3YSbYxaAdfW xcUKze0RRJZa5KBMOw/TFK/QdftIsmH1uYXLc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8D9F180F-B6D5-4352-B8E0-99DD9224AED0@mac.com> References: <467935.16101.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07CD8074@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <8D9F180F-B6D5-4352-B8E0-99DD9224AED0@mac.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:03:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:03:08 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > I could greatly shorten your learning curve in about an hour of hands on > training -- provided you have the necessary gear on hand, you would come out > the other end with a functional looper config and modicum of knowledge about > how to add additional controls to your dashboard. If you are going to get him going on Mobius in standalone, it would be soooo useful if you taped it. Why the video would probably go viral! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 09:41:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 992AA18349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5ptD4CCDWl3AgIQhtwnuwSGntxXeCmCF3dCrPf5kF6o=; b=kwk9Zx+pC9+Xl7qAlw6HpJapOBdf6DwQjpO2hLJLpYVkb1WvW/cJZgt288ZrTl0ofs Ls3CJbByfTScwj2dQ7ZAF9RqVNA4QRtwp9zlEnL/SKnSA7hFsRFK/sfZpKzUQqC5VL+Y JKy/xx1Yqxt/aPhGY0hqx8oaO6aKZpuJB+s7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=tw1kaZ5q88JzO6kHb3CwsNJAlbwn0X0FUFnr2UihD1WJl/SIgUdPNl+FuFDI+XWk28 SICgvkmw+GiEZwjyuC9al683H8SqP96qLJQiBT0GOg8dTWnFwcMTfAj2vNcADS2iMjDn YCZ/azE8InMGLS9gRn3+jAiTpHwBT0X7R96S0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:41:25 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7098c0ed8e7049f232a56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:41:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7098c0ed8e7049f232a56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker wrote: > Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing > of this ableton of which you speak" > > My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for > running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an > example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or > more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect > issues oozing to the surface.... > Thanks > Bill > --000e0cd7098c0ed8e7049f232a56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx p= lugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius in= side bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i gathe= r) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the clip c= an contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be quantized, s= o you can do some pretty cool stuff.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Wal= ker <billwal= ker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Sim Sez; = "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of t= his ableton of which you speak"

My thoughts exactly, =A0I'm wondering wha= t is the essential =A0reason for running one platform inside another? =A0= =A0Mobius=A0running in=A0Abelton=A0as an example? or = superlooper in Abelton. =A0Is it for managing effects plug ins or more exte= nded script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozin= g to the surface....
Thanks
=A0Bill

--000e0cd7098c0ed8e7049f232a56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 10:14:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BDF318349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zQAk6R39oj7+a8QupcS6CGJF8uNzaQjhl6psUQz8h2A=; b=C4AZRPf+cppsbEFt2x1ix+fAhk4qmokcOVr691uIHFF+lFWj98jF8w1MAZ0/RODa78 uLjLb+/deZtNH8vt7qht3kQ7iMjk2plWCacYhJ5g+HR6Uns9CcSmiuaca/LBZTZmAINg DIC1/EB3+OVbYp8X3zfUOr8Ibjjym/PJGp5tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OT/BpiSqYf+kFeJx/isXyG5ky95qUIg9w5ZfWknNa3fUoQqqUvBzWYs80u9diSy5GE mJ85nhZgcLs0+2w23i745pJ/FpLU7+CxWghVZlfcWWRXswT0DAmaUyNE93414DOX3Tgt 3kGrDOwzyZrKK8X36ouCmMRxW1lCrtXdeaIbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <620148.38637.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <620148.38637.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:14:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:14:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:54 AM, wrote: > actually, > can you run Mobius and Ableton in parallel? > Antony Hequet Yes, but you need to connect Live's output to Mobius input in some way. I looked into this a couple of years ago - not with Live though but with Mainstage (just another host app). The reason for me to run them in parallel was that Mainstage only works on Mac and there was no AU plugin version of Mobius for Mac. First I tried "virtual audio cables" to connect the two applications; Soundflower and Jack. None of them could keep the timing right, because the latency in those utilities changes depending on what the computer is processing, meaning there was no accurate latency figure to set up Mobius to compensate for. I finally solved the parallel setup by simply patching two cables into my audio interface. The point in doing so is that DA/AD conversion related latency always has a fixed number (that can effectively be compensated for). Output carries Live/Mainstage 1-2 and goes to PA, output 3-4 is the Mobius loop output and this is patched into input 3-4 (other inputs needed for instrument input) that is set (in the audio interface) to merge into the audio interface output 1-2. Now, cabling out audio and back into the system like that give some 40 ms latency and I carefully trimmed Mobius to comepensate for that, by moving new audio a bit further in the loop. Such latency compensation is totally transparent since the looper has all the loop duration's time to get the job done. I used that rig for more than a year; daisy-chained Mainstage + Mobius standalone. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 10:38:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3610818349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D89CDA9.4040504@zen.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:38:33 +0000 From: DaveDraper Reply-To: Dave Draper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1204 [1498/3523] X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:38:34 +0000 (UTC) On 19:59, Andy Owens wrote: > You know, if that thing had half the buttons, but twice as big, it might work. > > Andy o > True - but then I wouldn't have bought it!!! Mine's been ignored for a couple of weeks while I concentrated on other things; having said that, I'm only halfway through setting it up with KMI's software, & about a tenth of the way to setting up some bidule patches that might work, so....er.....no, I'm not actually u-s-i-n-g it yet...:) Dave (Sorry Andy, meant to post this here, not to you just now) ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3523 - Release Date: 03/22/11 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 10:41:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB64B18349C; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fqZQPMnFTHp+lYM+KeDMCOlNn44F0O0L1DUEvnH1zOI=; b=FmF0vxY5vGwVviCzgrQzghhP/PRYVTdPzUviUhbbw6SQ2fZ1QwhUuKsK+mGIMzMBw3 o8/ISKUtgZM3bmVgFjf76y+/q28TSTzpr2clB0iKO0zWYja5hlMJSfKIMAR01cznjcYU 4zqsofFOPjCljxplPU4rubTcgf9NWkf2SoV7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rUH+HFG5MqtRA814UHref2CcjFjOOLE6hZvgfpd8EldmTRcc3MxLTehEpyzTJH77s1 xx2sDNFgIY/zG8IgPF2PjBkLHginKGC5+mUFBHUy36hdUPliTg8qJy9Uvt+zisNjK7KZ Hvt0FYtl9ebpv2d/LKAxBcnPm4gk5P3QAJPRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: latency figures From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Check the thread at the Live forum where people run a specific test session on their computers and post the results. That's the best "laptop review" I know. In the PC world you really need to get under the hood and compare the same figuration of components inside the computers. Some of the things you plan to do is latency compensated in Live, but that only works if you are not syncing Live. And you didn't tell us if that's your plan or not? I don't find latency to be a problem when running software at a 128 sample buffer (same experience from XP Cemtrinos and Macs). But then I come from a guitarist background and have learned to adapt musically to latency on stages where you get to play at a new relative position to your amplifier every night ;-) My old habit of standing like three meters away from the amp sort of equals the laptop feel. When it comes to plug-in latency, I'm not sure that works if Live is synced. I never use plugins myself that induce latency, I kind of skip over that issue the easy way. For live playing that is, in the studio I use very slow plugins for fidelity reasons. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Ok, I may be in a position to purchase a new PC laptop soon and will have= to > trawl thrugh the myriad tech spec jungle > so... Who's got the lowest latency figures? > Advice on quad core vs dual vs 8 core, amount of ram, 64 bit vs 32 bit et= c. > I'll be running Ableton Live=C2=A0 firing loops, processing guitar, inter= preting > midi commands, synching to another computer and, if there's spare capacit= y, > runing Arkaos VJ software. > I want 1 computer to do all this - it can be done - I used to run vj > software with AudioMulch back in the day with aroound 10ms and that was > years ago on trusty windoze XP. > I've now migrated to win7. > so what performance are you gettin, (PC only though) > > Peace and ever lower latency > > Gareth@Sentientfx -=C2=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com= / > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 10:54:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FEAC18349D; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cgtHhsuDqGfTN1TfQaNn5Y1qypL/uMSFOtm4j2ZeZKg=; b=VsUdpUmkgCa5tu+sfS9IWM1TXe/hU5M8+nNjR7HjSb+zDhqr+AJ9X+A77Ktg8fKAq+ HXlzGIuZTN9Tvppj26WxO+7tahmWmKyjLfK6Jd1lg0GLCJhl6o+/4byEF1Fe3aoya8U/ aZGYhd8VSJ1KL8JoXOoSaWusnZfDpq7GVvfyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WorM+q55O4Qq3i96Rh6RxEXAYByHHkvBlzbkYbIht+G1KgvDbinacwYQVLxYvgTriO POMad8xaFofwk6D1i7C7vOcUgNMxJVvXtlDQ1FqMlsUdThdbHjqr28LC5DARolKhO2u8 faEq04005lEokHsik2dDz0Mx9ROzeVEC/t1uQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:54:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:54:35 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's >> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. > I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune > latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it > won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location > relative to your monitor speakers. I have mentioned on this list that a tiny amount of constant drift is always notable. I discovered that when trimming the loop latency compensation by ear. Probably due to the realignment of drifting going on in the background. But we are talking almost microscopical time frames here. As an example I'd say Mobius keeps a better timing than MIDI Clock sync. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 12:40:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBD5A18349D; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:40:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_OUDVponIq5/IbD9szuuh0w)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-23_05:2011-03-23,2011-03-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103230040 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:39:35 -0700 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <21005503-5011-42C0-B6C6-37300013E295@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:40:09 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_OUDVponIq5/IbD9szuuh0w) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I'm wondering what is the essential reason for running one platform inside anoth If you do midi looping, Ableton's clips slots function brings a lot to the table. For audio only loopers, one of many advantages is that you can bus the 8 loops to independent tracks in the host software where , you then have access to all the power of the DAWs channel strip and routing and, in the case of Ableton, easy midi control for audio functions outside of mobius. D On Mar 22, 2011, at 7:51 PM, William Walker wrote: > Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak" > > My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozing to the surface.... > Thanks > Bill --Boundary_(ID_OUDVponIq5/IbD9szuuh0w) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I'm wondering what is the essential =  reason for running one platform inside = anoth

If you do midi = looping, Ableton's clips slots function brings a lot to the = table. 

For audio only loopers, one of many = advantages is that you can bus the 8 loops to independent tracks in the = host software where , you then have access to all the power of the DAWs = channel strip and routing and, in the case of Ableton, easy midi control = for audio functions outside of = mobius.

D

On Mar 22, = 2011, at 7:51 PM, William Walker wrote:

Sim Sez; "i ask, because i = could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which = you speak"
My = thoughts exactly,  I'm wondering what is the essential  reason = for running one platform inside another?   Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or = superlooper in Abelton.  Is it for managing effects plug ins or = more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect = issues oozing to the surface....
Thanks
hey Michael or any one who has = been thwarted so far getting used to the softstep. Two  of the = things that people where excited about was how compact and lite weigh it = was, but that very issue of size, and liteness is now its undoing in = people's eyes, along with the lack of  a discernable tactile feel = or audible sound of a switch being engaged,  another  feature = anyone  who uses open mics on acoustic instruments  was =  excited about . Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it = can work?
 Yes I do, I think  the sensitivity of the pads = can be set so that the slightest touch can trigger it and one would just = need to get used to the lack of feel. I think the xy axis  thing is = probably more than most of us need or can get our minds around using =  I think there are work arounds for its lack of weight  and = not quite high enough back tier but I would love to see someone who owns = one try these to see if it helps. firstly, these need to be velcro = anchored to a larger heavier surface so that things like carpets don't =  destabilize it or cause tipping. secondly the pedal would need to = be angled more so that the back tier gains more height. I've been using = these on my pedal board as risers and it occured to me that a couple of =  these might make a good angle adjuster for the SS as well as = adding a bit of weight and stabiltiy and I was wondering if any one has = addressed this issue themselves with any success. ?.http://pros= tagegear.com/products/pedalboards/booster/
Bill
= = --Apple-Mail-40-463438481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 15:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E10B183456; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=P1XAQEB7L24PoTp/tYMOPTkak8GR2gmHqoQiZI3cCP8=; b=FIqbzJl8KOA6uUx3U+D/9O73FTfELND+ckKsh3hGPHCy2IxZa+V7ProTUjwK7QTJug xjzwHpDxnt4/LsFCxTB/tjKZrM1/lj0BsYz/XVjVvtcXKhJrxqotl3u7GL+eW4K+izG2 D26Z8QSA/UoO3zNvFQiIpxS1VhPpBsOTF8Xy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QnlogH8orPgq4JR5MS2icj2W9BHBFu5CtIP37MtZpbhRi4010qZcF0m3/AbH36UWHs 62U3+ChDWxZDrcHGRBJBjUqulPWmphgi1TJzHtOB0Vs72oMlXir0WUZN/VZWvYfyRGiO XYOPFyf56lk31Y5+xeJ+VbiugnFoD+r0SaiRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21005503-5011-42C0-B6C6-37300013E295@mac.com> References: <21005503-5011-42C0-B6C6-37300013E295@mac.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:28:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:29:22 +0000 (UTC) I use Ableton on Mac and have used Mobius in combination with Bidule and Mainstage in the past. Routing multiple Mobius tracks to individual tracks in Ableton should be a piece of cake. I suppose this works in exactly the same way as in Mainstage, which worked fine and allows you to use pre-and post loop FX processing. Other ideas to combine Mobius with hosts like Ableton, Bidule etc: depending on the audio interface, you can often re-route audio internally without the need for hardware cables (I use a Motu). For example: use output 13/14 (phones) inside Ableton as your main outputs and re-route it directly to Mobius if you prefer to use Mobius standalone. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 15:57:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6EC183449; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-23_07:2011-03-23,2011-03-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103230068 Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:57:00 -0700 Message-id: <4F834291-9576-4F23-9977-722B8B8D8182@mac.com> References: <21005503-5011-42C0-B6C6-37300013E295@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:57:06 +0000 (UTC) > Other ideas to combine Mobius with hosts like Ableton, Bidule etc: > depending on the audio interface, you can often re-route audio > internally without the need for hardware cables Here here! I shaved about 15 lbs off my looping rig when I moved the bulk of the routing and mixing chores into Ableton. d On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > I use Ableton on Mac and have used Mobius in combination with Bidule > and Mainstage in the past. Routing multiple Mobius tracks to > individual tracks in Ableton should be a piece of cake. I suppose this > works in exactly the same way as in Mainstage, which worked fine and > allows you to use pre-and post loop FX processing. > > Other ideas to combine Mobius with hosts like Ableton, Bidule etc: > depending on the audio interface, you can often re-route audio > internally without the need for hardware cables (I use a Motu). For > example: use output 13/14 (phones) inside Ableton as your main outputs > and re-route it directly to Mobius if you prefer to use Mobius > standalone. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 16:00:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BD02183456; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=69enK2GMzJ/0DenySl2GJqQNDxgZmDHZTVKtQvI7SOU=; b=oC3uyhhhW8tOxjOU8qrLMWZPBHkmU1i9C9zG6uilBuPQVOfAh6nEpS6Btf+rvbVIir 9QFeqOwbuxULODU747dlcMeoSxYCmMthr1LqoHay4clHxG99ppKISwGGKYvlNX6u/wft BuX4UmH/LByjRwWOUt5ZRx+SUt8qnWdtqTing= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ugwY3c4ZZ5bWZvHcxFGMO2W/vpqxJdzEKTdGrPMkwoTss/39WNbpV8o7mbxFbo9YtZ XhLmH+HatVyYrAuHKSz5LlhpNemIsp2ZEHqRviCshcjNTvDLl4qty58ogzqgK7/fcl4E KTbopY7r/oUmfXAVLZ0jhF76Tt6DgBURanRN0= Message-ID: <4D8A1911.5010703@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:00:17 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT TC studioKoonekt 48 References: <454507.96649.qm@web120713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <454507.96649.qm@web120713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC) antonyhequet@yahoo.com schrieb: > speaking of latency, does anyone have experience with theTC > studioKoonekt 48? I hear the preamps are good and sound quality > excellent but there may be latency issues with drivers... Personal experience here, which shares with the Konnekt48 the computer interface/driver structure and I believe the pres/converters. There was a big issue with the drivers in the early versions, which made the interface practically unusable for live applications. This has changed since, so latencies in the 3ms range are realistic now. I myself like the pres and converters, but then again, I'm not using it in a high-end-kindof application. Would I recommend it? It depends, plus is the pres/converters, the built-in effects (which only applies if you need those, obviously) and an analogue main level adjustment. However, its driver performance is still not up to the level set by RME. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 17:26:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91397183456; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IFKlK+me9Q+WP8OCdECxyROSQyg0nmxLX27HRvxcHbE=; b=J3M0K8K2iAqaXsuqytFdSn+B86kVGcrRM7YhS8HhVJ4ln9VO8DfQUM13MGWyTzOtog 4ji2bPFNJ6LWCJT8mSB43SMx+A+fqxLAVr+PjxIuhjzEvEvKEDLIE3Ev5LcJsFOmUWQf 08OmZRxFTcmxoMiJTT2uUpd/9xW9t/oI8DRjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gfv+R5n4cTV5Ip+wpbKF3+TKN4EkOXZ/LJSHisapto2UUryUdndz2oGlMG+BTmZjzt tDF3mpvt/lY1vqf8nbwaApJRDWaEWN4d/m+TebXCQzgI/KbVJ+6TT6yqY15SdxXDEcnV XSrAWgF6k5HIJCht5hB3IxJzwCT4QxPLNAjBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F834291-9576-4F23-9977-722B8B8D8182@mac.com> References: <21005503-5011-42C0-B6C6-37300013E295@mac.com> <4F834291-9576-4F23-9977-722B8B8D8182@mac.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:25:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:26:01 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: > Here here! =A0I shaved about 15 lbs off my looping rig when I moved the b= ulk of the routing and mixing chores into Ableton. Yep! And noise, hum, input gain issues etc etc ;-) I like the way Ableton implemented this in Live because you really have the feeling you're working with an analog mixer and patch panels. You can also insert a hardware FX unit in an audio track using the "External Audio Effect" which makes the I/O routing very logical and simple. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 18:40:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E849183456; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=yDQLUg9krdkXEm2BDjy+E10ZBiH8rEo4TCvozqyRmcmWqM1gaHC+72LSW5LC1tkUbEc/BRMxqhRNVqLkjNfyfnXUm+ZJgHlDrAk8zBWiK5xAv0OixV7qx4Mcgr2nqiFd8lquRJQU4NSwQw2BJ4y3MnixDMXeT4P0TfHsjPgv5vY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300905598; bh=9oxAPuneX1U49Fg4xO2Y6ONBx/muti6FihoJLTMKJOg=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=L7CzBuHLY89ZNjuT352aZiGDKl66Q1c5umiEJ5XUOEURJiNAJPEgd1mI6gA6Wv2mZYj/0tyRFHrZHnKW/0FsKjQ1E5rULqClog/krYZwrhwfEI3rdfpnoEnUPMst/ZacLt6TT9r6Q5RUeTP0t3NwT2uOyJeGgo1HHq+mO5nijwE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: DWhkOnkVM1lOC2SanGfzhmS2VjcH3d4ogrOOV2EtwOT3nlB 15epkvawubcCko99Dq1sQVK5UngFaXqqaTYJT7crhQ_reBk0htLgRFva9UPi BjJ2x1avvpunKjBtTLBnbsYW9FtNqMKxD8PQjlfWvNJDvWLXxS9L_v8pMo_A CtQe37lGvweUuxtI.n7hR_aRhenvDgIuO6OG5KwGY48Ax130ccHH.a3C8L82 kSg6qYMZPPA40AHg1YHEbw79Bk01Toc8UnjUYDOmSZEMznSdwjhaoQ8u_ad. 8oVR41apSdHWf2QLixCMrIudJh6tW2opTo8pAzJ2zs4WvnSEuR81_s_jh.kr 4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <454507.96649.qm@web120713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D8A1911.5010703@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D8A1911.5010703@googlemail.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89FD3479-FE16-474D-9634-A1FB91A74467@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8631567_AN9SimIAACy1TYoZHwhpVCiOZ1Q Subject: Re: OT TC studioKoonekt 48 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:39:39 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) How is the driver performance l'essai tha RME? Does it have a goodcrouting M= atrix? Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-23, at 17:00, Rainer Straschill wrote:= > antonyhequet@yahoo.com schrieb: >> speaking of latency, does anyone have experience with theTC studioKoonekt= 48? I hear the preamps are good and sound quality excellent but there may b= e latency issues with drivers... > Personal experience here, which shares with the Konnekt48 the computer int= erface/driver structure and I believe the pres/converters. > There was a big issue with the drivers in the early versions, which made t= he interface practically unusable for live applications. This has changed si= nce, so latencies in the 3ms range are realistic now. > I myself like the pres and converters, but then again, I'm not using it in= a high-end-kindof application. >=20 > Would I recommend it? It depends, plus is the pres/converters, the built-i= n effects (which only applies if you need those, obviously) and an analogue m= ain level adjustment. However, its driver performance is still not up to the= level set by RME. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 23 19:51:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93DD8183486; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=GweEcDa+CTRzpeMJdK/0u2bujLu3+t/Cssz9gdTsUQUvq2+kE/2LnYA2D3a89SKY; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:51:00 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79389225497740eb4ffde7f445dfd87fcf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rapha=EBl, =46antastic work..! I have ordered an iPod touch=20 4th gen and an Apogee "Jam" a/d converter.. your=20 app will be my fist purchase... looking forward=20 to it. -Chuck Zwicky >Hi Everyone ! > >I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper >lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL, >which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an >iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together >as an app called Everyday Looper. > >First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not >being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great >information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, tempo, >envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it >in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these >infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of >the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper >displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full >screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space. > >Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real knobs, >buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an >iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the >first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go >for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two >fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to >change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to >merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with >audio. > >And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will >find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and >final mix path, and quantized to loop recording. > >As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course >all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use >feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop track. >The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are >vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so >is the looper too. At least for now ^^. > >Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots, >videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the direct >link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper . > >The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=A4/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update >which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=A4/3=A3). But I >would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, if >you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write >me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I >will happily send you one if their is some left. > >Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions >if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it >regularly :). > >Cheers ! > >Rapha=EBl -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 00:45:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FA32183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1u9FkNIH9P2Fm+mS1wzwOaL3BE1sbink/fmur/IRL/k=; b=VSXl0knjbMOSC9LtQvuF5YEnFOzOLsHgYYKvOsNyxeYuuZiCw2qpH35vRZq4EiIiA1 HkVC2cP9iQDBX9TCC/EJIWBvH6oD6zJs1YWnESk7Soc7qmFtjKWzvVAdfPuSuwcyUiV0 42LcifR9EBLE9Xi9eWN40AeUvJ7UA+LxP0zqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G+AE4nCJRrrdN1AGQj8ZTLeGlpXy2PtKFGq8NYhxgHt2LydDsDdNM3ppjuGLq5jx6y yNU6Ne5qXrxoGSfbwws1HtLLsNNBlsXgbfIbTFZfrOjoju+QuGYKQvW/k/eGX3jl3Ane uXIAcGU2lmoKyBhc9kZImBWf9SwSrTl37beTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:45:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Download 2 songs for free From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, You can now download 2 songs for free from the album "59 Airplanes waiting for New York", see http://premonitionfactory.com/ for more info. As with all Premonition Factory songs, these were extracted from studio live improv recordings without additional editing besides mastering. Btw: all albums are still shippped for free, no matter were you live :) Enjoy! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 03:39:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 781EC183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D87658C.5040009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:39:38 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <05D14AC2-C675-4C96-80F5-6C9D751A2ED5@grubmah.com> References: <3615AFB9-858B-4B29-8043-187D45D416C2@grubmah.com> <33083220-4D54-4AE9-87D2-D6E379F877E5@googlemail.com> <4D865616.5010403@tiscali.co.uk> <14F1D491-C079-4841-BEC6-7C93E269A0F4@grubmah.com> <4D871839.7010503@tiscali.co.uk> <4D87658C.5040009@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:39:40 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Hamburg wrote: >=20 >> P.S. While looking at my M13, the slightly simpler thing I would want = and that I wish Line 6 would build: >> * Make the loopers stereo >> * Give me four of them in the box, switch selectable via the top row = of buttons >> * Give me a multiply button to replicate a loop >> * Provide appropriate cycle syncing between the loopers (but make it = optional for those times when you don't want things synced) >> * Make Undo a per loop thing so that for any loop I can essentially = have two versions though only based on including or not including the = last overdub. >=20 > So the Line 6 team gets a much simplified challenge compared to the = Looperlative team. I figure Line 6 obviously doesn't care as much as the Looperlative team = given their past history. On the other hand, Line 6 has got a device that's really close to being = a lot deeper and I'm sure they've got the DSP power inside the box to do = it if they ejected the other effects in a dedicated looper. > Undo does not really give you 2 versions, it gives you an overdub > which can be switched on/off. Yes, but it's still useful without going to multiple loops. The = Looperlative already had the eight loops so it isn't an architectural = change in the playback component to treat them in pairs. > Hence that can be achieved by recording to a different track, > and simply switching that track on/off. That doesn't give you feedback control. You can leave Overdub on and = layer things at low feedback until the original is mostly gone. Then = click undo and it comes back. (I keep trying to figure out how the UI = should work for a looper in which you could fade back on undo rather = than just jumping back.) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 04:57:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 034DE183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-257-512884527 Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 21:57:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D878D3A.2040001@cruzio.com> <33F2083C-93CC-4D92-9BDD-7573837CFD2B@mac.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:57:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-257-512884527 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of = admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often = high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a = delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that = facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the = midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of = dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any = looping platform...HW or SW. On the one hand, we have hardware loopers like the EDP and the Boomerang = III that get a lot of mileage out of their controllers. (It's pretty = impressive what the Boomerang III promises to do with five buttons, but = I haven't actually played one to see how well it delivers.) On the other hand, we've got the Looperlative which offers a lot more = depth and looping capability than the EDP and Boomerang, but expects = more UI tuning to build your own experience and because it works with a = range of devices of varying sophistication doesn't seem to be able to = hit the control polish levels that the EDP and the Boomerang III have = even with relatively expensive foot controllers. It's a pity because the = fundamental device does offer a lot more. Let's look at one of my more complicated button definitions: the = rec/dub/undo button. First, the notion of using a long press for undo came from somewhere = else that I don't remember right off. (LP2?) It works because toggling = overdub is rarely a timing critical operation and hence using the "end = short press" event to toggle overdub while using "end long press" to = trigger undo works pretty cleanly. Second, a lot of the distinction about what to do if stopped v playing v = recording v overdubbing in the short press case is what the Looperlative = record/dub command already does and what the corresponding switch on a = Line 6 looper does. Third, using a long press when triggering record to signal that it = shouldn't be synced doesn't have any precedent but it seemed a = reasonable way to provide access to both synced and unsynced recording = without needing another record/dub switch. So, my wish list may have looked complicated, but I don't think anything = on it was that wild. I watch people at shows looking for places to balance their laptops when = setting up and it doesn't feel right to me. Maybe for the non-mobile = rig, however. I spend a fair amount of my time at work worrying about user interface = issues and control sets. I used to write simple audio code (long, long = ago on a Z80). But I know that I'm not going to build my own hardware = because that's not where my skills lie. What's more, with various things = seeming so close, I keep hoping that I can find the combination that = would let me access a reasonable chunk of the looping prowess of the = Looperlative with as polished a control interface as the "less = sophisticated" loopers because doing software development for a living, = I really would rather be making music than writing more software. (Okay. I've said I don't want to do software development, but give me a = Forth interpreter in the LP-1 and a MIDI controller that can send press = begin, short press end, and long press end messages and the ability to = recognize those messages on the LP-1 and I could probably hit a lot of = what I'm looking for.) Mark --Apple-Mail-257-512884527 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
No = matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :)  the price of = admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often = high.  Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with = a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows = that facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck = up the midnight oil in a very big way.  I certainly have had to pay = a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break = through on any looping platform...HW or = SW.

On the one hand, we have = hardware loopers like the EDP and the Boomerang III that get a lot of = mileage out of their controllers. (It's pretty impressive what the = Boomerang III promises to do with five buttons, but I haven't actually = played one to see how well it delivers.)

On the = other hand, we've got the Looperlative which offers a lot more depth and = looping capability than the EDP and Boomerang, but expects more UI = tuning to build your own experience and because it works with a range of = devices of varying sophistication doesn't seem to be able to hit the = control polish levels that the EDP and the Boomerang III have even with = relatively expensive foot controllers. It's a pity because the = fundamental device does offer a lot more.

Let's = look at one of my more complicated button definitions: the rec/dub/undo = button.

First, the notion of using a long press = for undo came from somewhere else that I don't remember right off. = (LP2?) It works because toggling overdub is rarely a timing critical = operation and hence using the "end short press" event to toggle overdub = while using "end long press" to trigger undo works pretty = cleanly.

Second, a lot of the distinction about = what to do if stopped v playing v recording v overdubbing in the short = press case is what the Looperlative record/dub command already does and = what the corresponding switch on a Line 6 looper = does.

Third, using a long press when triggering = record to signal that it shouldn't be synced doesn't have any precedent = but it seemed a reasonable way to provide access to both synced and = unsynced recording without needing another record/dub = switch.

So, my wish list may have looked = complicated, but I don't think anything on it was that = wild.

I watch people at shows looking for = places to balance their laptops when setting up and it doesn't feel = right to me. Maybe for the non-mobile rig, = however.

I spend a fair amount of my time at = work worrying about user interface issues and control sets. I used to = write simple audio code (long, long ago on a Z80). But I know that I'm = not going to build my own hardware because that's not where my skills = lie. What's more, with various things seeming so close, I keep hoping = that I can find the combination that would let me access a reasonable = chunk of the looping prowess of the Looperlative with as polished a = control interface as the "less sophisticated" loopers because doing = software development for a living, I really would rather be making music = than writing more software.

(Okay. I've said I = don't want to do software development, but give me a Forth interpreter = in the LP-1 and a MIDI controller that can send press begin, short press = end, and long press end messages and the ability to recognize those = messages on the LP-1 and I could probably hit a lot of what I'm looking = for.)

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-257-512884527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 05:10:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FBCF183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8AD21D.9010905@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:09:49 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hamburg CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <05D14AC2-C675-4C96-80F5-6C9D751A2ED5@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <05D14AC2-C675-4C96-80F5-6C9D751A2ED5@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:09:59 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > That doesn't give you feedback control. You can leave Overdub on and layer things at low feedback until the original is mostly gone. Then click undo and it comes back. (I keep trying to figure out how the UI should work for a looper in which you could fade back on undo rather than just jumping back.) > > Mark The LP-2 Mini Looper has 30 levels of undo couple with feedback. I'm not completely sure, but I think that for every 15% of feedback reduction it automatically sets up an undo point. I've been beta testing it and you can do some very cool pieces of music with long builds that can then be deconstructed rapidly to arrive back at your original project. Additionally, if you make a loop and then call up a second loop (there are up to 8 loops allowed) you can with a bit of fancy footwork go back and forth between sequential loops like in the EDP. Of course, it is not set up to do this specifically so it's definitely more cumbersome a way to play........but I've been able to do it with impunity. You can read about the other goodies in this pretty inexpensive floor looper (exact size of DL-4) in several posts I've already made here so I won't bore anyone by recounting the other things it does. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 05:15:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB17218349D; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8AD359.90105@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:15:05 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Walker CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: does anyone really use Softstep? References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:15:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > hey Michael or any one who has been thwarted so far getting used to > the softstep. Two of the things that people where excited about was > how compact and lite weigh it was, but that very issue of size, and > liteness is now its undoing in people's eyes, along with the lack of > a discernable tactile feel or audible sound of a switch being > engaged, another feature anyone who uses open mics on acoustic > instruments was excited about . Anyone but me seeing the irony here? LOL, I was wondering if anyone was going to see that irony. Nice, Bill. My question is whether the Softstep considerable firepower can be turned off. In other words, can one make the pedal just do a couple of things instead of 5 things? By lowering the sensitivity and turning funcionality off, I'll bet you could have a pretty cool little unit here. I'm also guessing also that wearing socks or barefeet might be very efficacious in using it, instead of shoes which can definitely false trigger small buttons closely placed. I don't know because I've only seen it demoed at NAMM (which was a very impressive demo, by the way). Keith is a fascinating guy as well. I had a brief talk with him at the show and was impressed by him as a person. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 14:39:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3191E183453; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D8AD21D.9010905@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:39:23 -0700 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <347EBACA-48DE-4D6D-95D1-3A839956DF04@grubmah.com> References: <05D14AC2-C675-4C96-80F5-6C9D751A2ED5@grubmah.com> <4D8AD21D.9010905@cruzio.com> To: Rick Walker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:39:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 23, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> That doesn't give you feedback control. You can leave Overdub on and = layer things at low feedback until the original is mostly gone. Then = click undo and it comes back. (I keep trying to figure out how the UI = should work for a looper in which you could fade back on undo rather = than just jumping back.) >>=20 >> Mark > The LP-2 Mini Looper has 30 levels of undo couple with feedback. >=20 > I'm not completely sure, but I think that for every 15% of feedback = reduction > it automatically sets up an undo point. >=20 > I've been beta testing it and you can do some very cool pieces of = music with > long builds that can then be deconstructed rapidly to arrive back at = your original > project. >=20 > Additionally, if you make a loop and then call up a second loop = (there are up to 8 loops > allowed) you can with a bit of fancy footwork go back and forth = between sequential > loops like in the EDP. >=20 > Of course, it is not set up to do this specifically so it's = definitely more cumbersome > a way to play........but I've been able to do it with impunity. >=20 > You can read about the other goodies in this pretty inexpensive floor = looper (exact > size of DL-4) in several posts I've already made here so I won't bore = anyone by > recounting the other things it does. That's definitely along the lines that I want. In fact, it's overkill. = ;-) If I could live with mono -- where the bigger problem is that it affects = the in & out and not just the loop -- maybe the answer becomes a couple = of LP2's as a multitrack looper. Or hope for some sort of similar stack = unwinding to hit the LP1 some time. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 15:02:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE7E6183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1300978938; bh=Gfx+ONbbR2TlSMSNkbvJZXPztzHGITnM7Mfn65Y90G4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F4+K7D2kszxtJD9SMsLWP5mOHU2LREIZoxLvxrwe0cSBVTqvFvoDF6SIhw3rQ1Cj3sZvTLElC67WM4mYWBR2c3FeUT5tIaCkopG3sz/NtPa8KgNhAQts9xwrIi862w7TeKnVPtymtKjnn7YeOVYs1Nv+uwRZIoPy/yjFqIiIFbU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tOXtWgnIHTr0zzXlm4MNh/6BLeXgQ75n6CN9j9KW84fOaV59vZGULBdpi+Vg656xQ+qfBKPdWz7XR8hI02CynuncXEv4KQCirh7wUd96YTOGrKG81sgQDgWWGstyPwU08ezmzpoQMYNb6ijFNGLkeMI/h38kMEUbR6pE5pe3PAg=; Message-ID: <268254.46336.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0WVWpTAVM1m7oSeCVfxfI9bpi1DecaQa0fOcR37UAmtpjWD WT1nHzSXLG.3q61Yv0HEZv484v21EIlih74QxSPhu938maEAxzIUsKnVtvBe 9BAXxjSwj02Jyw9nHRCoqoOa2CVFolVFOnu.3F4HZl3OGfdcB9bpU3WENMI4 n04YdlblEBwn24ap2U9jedIu29i_QyW2Mb1394DEZ.E.R2bCrRSeQ0stX.AK 9S6R9jVkQAPkwq5W6sznn7DClfGRZRmhJY1iNVxfvhs.8Bhc2TuRsyB4_qdx zQaud7EosCYcCo5rG796RLV1PIcOdhPj2lFWa3wBS4iecTWVkQjipnKHpZsu eTHKILd4g2krALuUNXWn9R7A7tzXCrE6V53T1FIMMPYwF8SastwZ6VsKuMde yaQ12mX5smzOWCA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D89265B.6050306@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1540223743-1300978938=:46336" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:02:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1540223743-1300978938=:46336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the response(s). =A0 This Sony looks interesting and is inexpensive-I may just pop for it. I'm s= orry I wasn't more clear in my original post regarding my requirements. I a= m just looking for a microphone to capture live audio in a small space (i.e= . living room) of my looping efforts with electric guitar, Handsonic HPD10 = and some synth. I'd prefer running everything into my board/digital recorde= r=A0but my secondary amp doesn't have a line out so it needs miked anyway (= I'm still researching a solution to miking that amp). =A0 Also, I'd like to just record some of my impromptu playing without a lot of= preparation to record as normal (albeit the recording technique may not be= optimal with external mikes). I have done this with the Zoom H4N with good= results by placing the recorder between the two Peavy passive monitors (th= ey're just sitting on the floor) used as output from my mixer with my guita= r amp on one side. I'm hoping I can do the same with the Zoom R24. =A0 Regards, Butch --- On Tue, 3/22/11, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder To: "Butch Band" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:44 PM On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote: > Any recommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphones)= to use for a home recording application involving the recording of a one-m= an band? THX! Sony makes a really delightful small and inexpensive stereo microphone that= , saliently, records fairly flat across the timbral spectrum from 20 hz to 20,000 hz,=A0 called = the Sony ECM S907. B+H has it here for a very reasonable $64 USD http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150434-REG/Sony_ECMMS907_ECM_MS907_St= ereo_Mic.html If you use some of the freeware Convolution reverbs that are available thes= e days and find yourself some Impulse files of very, very expensive condenser microphones this makes= this little puppy a particularly effective and versatile little tool. It is so small that I just velcro it to the top of my current Canon video c= amera. It fits in one's pocket. I think it's the best microphone deal in the universe considering how inexp= ensive it is. rick walker =0A=0A=0A --0-1540223743-1300978938=:46336 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the response(s).
 
This Sony looks interesting and is inexpensive-I may just pop for it. = I'm sorry I wasn't more clear in my original post regarding my requirements= . I am just looking for a microphone to capture live audio in a small space= (i.e. living room) of my looping efforts with electric guitar, Handsonic H= PD10 and some synth. I'd prefer running everything into my board/digital re= corder but my secondary amp doesn't have a line out so it needs miked = anyway (I'm still researching a solution to miking that amp).
 
Also, I'd like to just record some of my impromptu playing without a l= ot of preparation to record as normal (albeit the recording technique may n= ot be optimal with external mikes). I have done this with the Zoom H4N with= good results by placing the recorder between the two Peavy passive monitor= s (they're just sitting on the floor) used as output from my mixer with my = guitar amp on one side. I'm hoping I can do the same with the Zoom R24.
 
Regards, Butch

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Rick Walker <loopp= ool@cruzio.com> wrote:

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
= Subject: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder
To: "Butch Ban= d" <butchband@gmail.com>
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:44 PM

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Butch Band wrote:
> Any r= ecommendations as to a reasonably-priced microphone (or microphones) to use= for a home recording application involving the recording of a one-man band= ? THX!
Sony makes a really delightful small and inexpensive stereo micro= phone that, saliently, records
fairly flat across the timbral spectrum f= rom 20 hz to 20,000 hz,  called the Sony ECM S907.

B+H has it h= ere for a very reasonable $64 USD

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150434-REG/Sony_ECMMS907_EC= M_MS907_Stereo_Mic.html

If you use some of the freeware Convolut= ion reverbs that are available these days and find yourself
some Impulse= files of very, very expensive condenser microphones this makes this little=
puppy a particularly effective and versatile little tool.

It is so small that I just velcro it to the top of my current Canon video camera= .
It fits in one's pocket.

I think it's the best microphone deal = in the universe considering how inexpensive it is.

rick walker

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1540223743-1300978938=:46336-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 16:00:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F00B18349D; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBEA3C.A2D82505" Subject: RE: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:00:46 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Thread-Index: AcvpPn/g7U0TeNMqRHmP+qya97nQCAA+1Ggw References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2011 16:00:55.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[A86EEB90:01CBEA3C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:00:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBEA3C.A2D82505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight record audio post analog effects? =20 Ao =20 From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig =20 well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker wrote: Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you speak" =20 My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect issues oozing to the surface.... Thanks Bill =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBEA3C.A2D82505 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you = would/could just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, = just straight record audio post analog effects?

 

Ao

 

From:= = Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: = Ableton/Mobius consulting gig

 

well one reason would be so that you = could post process the loops with fx plugins. or pre-process...depending = on what you want to do. i host mobius inside bidule for this very = reason. another cool thing about ableton (i gather) is that you can = create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the clip can contain = controller data, or notes or program changes and be quantized, so you = can do some pretty cool stuff.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = wrote:

Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up = mobius for you, but i know nothing of this ableton of which you = speak"

 

My thoughts exactly,  I'm wondering what is the = essential  reason for running one platform inside another? =   Mobius running in Abelton as an example? or = superlooper in Abelton.  Is it for managing effects plug ins or = more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect = issues oozing to the surface....

Thanks

 Bill

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBEA3C.A2D82505-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 16:10:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 146BD183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a2UMhxE02Cnqeew8u/d+nwevMGEZiIUyUvgYJalyLkg=; b=gtjRPV3vK40HJq5hTzrRKCVlv0inCDiiRkC1sRpC1hOKJsthsIwafwS/tV5SsMz0c3 ONiMpClgyfJKCFSndAZqbyppXo/BLlYF85bjZeXZj5IaPBGePoW4MugXyWwGCgO3qep6 1SGPDGBw+a/OLVFQz61EWyZ3yzJ1u2sMtPFQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=aHRvr2GqOKj/nJPW3HB9stDWyRbI+kvNO1fzxVgyRAJAHxHwGkk46tPZqUObObuA3A R0/pVt7U/O3EVcSIWxX3AirGtgegf/fcDcIAEWIBLWzOgttH+q3pNRZTGK/lI91yo4et jA6oC0zEv/pj8iyeAi4mZ8BxzNXISYELOKJ0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:10:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7098ccac05c049f3cb82b Resent-Message-ID: <6RBW-D.A.TiG.P02iNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:10:55 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7098ccac05c049f3cb82b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well, i wouldn't describe Mobius as "simple", but it can be run that way. the rabbit hole goes as deep as you want it to. with a 10 button footcontroller, you could have pretty much everything you'd need for a basic 8 track looper, with rec/dub (using a simple script, so you only need one button), reverse, half speed, mute, reset, next, previous, undo, copy timing and multiply. and you could simplify the UI to just show what you'd need as well. the trick is working out what sort of behaviour you want the tracks to do (synced/unsynced/quantised/unquantised). i run mine with four synced tracks and four unsynced tracks. but you could save a few different setups and recall them as needed. sim On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could > just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight > record audio post analog effects? > > > > Ao > > --000e0cd7098ccac05c049f3cb82b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well, i wouldn't describe Mobius as "simple", but it can be r= un that way. the rabbit hole goes as deep as you want it to. with a 10 butt= on footcontroller, you could have pretty much everything you'd need for= a basic 8 track looper, with rec/dub (using a simple script, so you only n= eed one button), reverse, half speed, mute, reset, next, previous, undo, co= py timing and multiply. and you could simplify the UI to just show what you= 'd need as well. the trick is working out what sort of behaviour you wa= nt the tracks to do (synced/unsynced/quantised/unquantised). i run mine wit= h four synced tracks and four unsynced tracks. but you could save a few dif= ferent setups and recall them as needed.

sim

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM, = Andy Owens <a= ndy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

So, if all yo= u wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could just run mob= ius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight record audio = post analog effects?

=A0

Ao


--000e0cd7098ccac05c049f3cb82b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 17:38:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D878183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <4D8AD359.90105@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: RE: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:38:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4D8AD359.90105@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvqPhh3aRNAVl91QmmcJ2ZEvH1j1QAC+5Ow Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:38:28 +0000 (UTC) > In other words, can one make the pedal just do a couple of things instead of 5 things? yes > I'm also guessing also that wearing socks or barefeet might be very efficacious in using it my impression is that the keys need too much pressure - I can't really use Softstep when I wear no shoes. But I haven't done serious researching yet. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 17:48:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F065E18349C; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y2nBxEFhsbBZdp1Zvn5kKWvj1fkJNpmtPPmZZzfuo+A=; b=GVozRo3faowqXuR09XAFDCOhIDXO91hA6aXhUOSTFwtiR4GyQ6MkLNYPKXVyib+TKh 0KNS39lF2Kp5Gfc2BQ7aCvmaGedngd2k+//kt9QgDFT+Y7LpswG0Aqm2Ve5cSILxvWdO xIsMY9VsxX/umm3+o1t4x9Fz8skZEKfy0vcq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PuvRkyixPBLcX22eNsWS+mPxvoHADrTgEd/1Gd3V2RF3fqG+tR7tbkfT2SN2+dmd3L VELkfwJQ2JpaTLEE7IHiaoj3B4Yd8+pWOo7BtbAF3Qkj88zqH8IjrkAyldl/yp3n6zrb H4636RxfnQKvQzxBf9imvnH/2udfMY3k63mrg= Message-ID: <4D8B83F9.4070000@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:48:41 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: latency figures References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Gareth Whittock schrieb: > Ok, I may be in a position to purchase a new PC laptop soon and will > have to trawl thrugh the myriad tech spec jungle > so... Who's got the lowest latency figures? > Advice on quad core vs dual vs 8 core, amount of ram, 64 bit vs 32 bit > etc. The latency you get doesn't have that much to do with the CPU. Main factors tend to be (in no specific order): * the computer's chipset * (integrated) computer peripherals (some card readers tend to have a very negative effect) * audio interface drivers * audio interface hardware * software application * your distance to the speakers The influence of the processor comes after that - a more powerful processor can help you lowering latency if the other factors are ok (very simplified statement). There is a performance figure which is a good indicator as how good a given computer is for low-latency applications, and it's called DPC latency. For a test tool, see http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml Some (online) computer magazines have finally started to post DPC latency figures a while ago. Although not a looping application, I got <0.7ms (one way at 48kHz) with the following setup: * Dell Studio 1747 (w/ Nehalem QuadCore) * Win7 Professional, Cubase 5.5 * RME digiface/HDSP Express * recording 17 audio tracks and running The Grand 2 (details on the session: http://moinsound.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/a-tatowierte-katz-another-twitterchords-tune/) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 17:58:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 169B9183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DVrsKJp6iU99VUDC16HAeZVGNO6Xx9AiIxWPXzEXbh0=; b=gWZFJf9f6/RsFRyyQm+xUS1DobClRlkulxbGgOf6RWoPuwAUB90ShyJYeLoQzChzXT wVIM4EUsVXEh44k/gf/QTiQUpoUUiQnvSCqA4Ji7DwqonVxpcGdxVuji8Mds9zHAONSm xvTDsKGep5CbjEEXtf1atSTlopCk4VlOkd1GM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QYwd61ZJpzZnhS9UOkHcqxVbBFzhs8trmBEOsInNdLO8rXhLeKwxZA4J78Jko1kYxQ 0YgLsLnOeeZnctb2UoykVZN/aH2lfr5yI8yyIiIYUGQc8Yloy6KLnABqzWAfFLC+X7v1 g9XbS4d0nlhvXgmXSB9KPq98AWt0D8XBhdi3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:58:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:58:12 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could > just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight > record audio post analog effects? Sure, you can do that with Mobius. But beware that "simple" is a status highly dependent on many factors. May I remind about the old saying "a computer's worst enemy is the User" ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 18:15:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C4F5183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8B8A28.5030207@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:15:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Foot controller for a dream looper References: <347EBACA-48DE-4D6D-95D1-3A839956DF04@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <347EBACA-48DE-4D6D-95D1-3A839956DF04@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > If I could live with mono -- where the bigger problem is that it affects the in& out and not just the loop -- maybe the answer becomes a couple of LP2's as a multitrack looper. Well, it should be said that two LP-2 mini loopers midi-ed together would weigh in at $600 and I defy anyone to put up a hardware looper that would do what two of these guys would do at the price point.......I'm just sayin' (and remember, when we talk about things like the wonderful freeware program, Mobius that we're also talking the necessity of an audio interface card, midi footpedals and a relatively happening laptop computer which is gonna run around $1,000 to $1,200 for your price point comparison.) But we have to get it out first..........lol...............we are very, very close now. cross your fingers. Mark also wrote: Or hope for some sort of similar stack unwinding to hit the LP1 some time. Don't think that's in the cards or at least anytime soon. Andy, your take on this? rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 18:20:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC60183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8B8B53.2000809@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:20:03 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: Microphone for Zoom R24 Digital Recorder References: <268254.46336.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <268254.46336.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > This Sony looks interesting and is inexpensive-I may just pop for it. > I'm sorry I wasn't more clear in my original post regarding my > requirements. I am just looking for a microphone to capture live audio > in a small space (i.e. living room) of my looping efforts with > electric guitar, Handsonic HPD10 and some synth. I'd prefer running > everything into my board/digital recorder but my secondary amp doesn't > have a line out so it needs miked anyway (I'm still researching a > solution to miking that amp). It's perfect for that. just inexpensive, relatively high quality and perfect. I love my Olympus D-10 for exactly that thing. another option is the Blue Icycle which is a very inexpensive phantom powered USB pre-amp (you can find them for as cheap as $40 on line or could when I bought mine) and just use a laptop with a good stereo or mono microphone. I'm recording the bulk of an acoustic singer/songwriter record with this simple method currently, straight into Audacity which is a simple and free audio editor available for Windows and OSX. You just plug in the Icycle connected to a microphone, hit record and, voila, start recording......................use some headphones and your next track will record as you immediately monitor your first track. It's not the best audio editor in the world but it's easy for just putting things down quickly which is what I'm trying to do, lately. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 19:56:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05830183456; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0E518C7A900443CDBC40033F8DD7EF34@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: LAST CALL: B-CIMF 2011 Call to Musicians Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:56:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022C_01CBEA2B.482579E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:56:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_022C_01CBEA2B.482579E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_022D_01CBEA2B.4825C800" ------=_NextPart_001_022D_01CBEA2B.4825C800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a final reminder for the 6th Annual Boise Creative and = Improvised Music Festival (B-CIMF), which will take place May 6-7, 2011. 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h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pHsCulqoungWMElHaHXGKZyRQFZgu9qHq0RvlKF+S2c=; b=ZE5ZMZ2PY/jZfoJV+lTcg4yfkAQXgRTv/wz+x9VvEQKTQgcGVsHHc6pIQmw0ye98yh aWdhoa6YOfkH+5eMmFU0O80PsjHBK1PkIiCaMErrc+Yk+tYfMrKR8GhsWopBjp48NvLt 3j1QO1ASCHU3UEVSMZgKkO2cGCB0bClc0VKfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VQg4Oj2W2ZxLydInXXx6mkKUvxvGCmtxRdu13bxVoTdkjGjIk4iU9CUPxTRUbFFBPN rT7CFJXMV2fTPeQGWn45/U/8kzVtdK/i3EXc25ljdqSnlFP04cOwl21eS3wckJSNpngt MInjf/FUeK51WCCtqEdPirejNexUt2IuBBHoA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:36:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Jeff i have a question, in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to it. Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in future versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps? cheers Luis On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > >> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should >> and stay there on subsequent passes. =A0A couple of attempts have ended >> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the >> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. > If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation gui= de: > =A0=A0 http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency > > Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card > you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. =A0It is > possible > for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but > you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the > Audio Devices window. =A0Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what > the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. > This is explained in the manual. > If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that > have very low latency. =A0Often people don't even bother tuning latency > compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it > is off by a few milliseconds. > As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try > ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. =A0I hav= e > had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you > should still consider an external interface. >> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's >> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. > I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune > latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it > won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location > relative to your monitor speakers. > Jeff > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 20:48:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EC2D183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T08gaFikxsYRY6CT8lZZ0TsU2uKSJHZvYcSMaj2i6P4=; b=RLtfgOUIoXZkPc9UlyKe6IJAzR4O4hb7kFH/kC3ALZIHDjCpAsA+syTgwzL1Cd6lmG DzqCLlcGRaPUGtRiMCFoS4zpI+tj/a3uCjye1rtXqLGMtdtCTdRhgZ+KqWfsQh3qMTuC G2ZFikcuFyWqZs/ujumYbQdOVgAqfbf4mwl+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T46qolnZ1hjgNDzPZdM9H4+SxcTzcxNY1OWgWVcK2nweTRHlyeNMQN94jm4spcZ7lN uOWMuo0xeBJrrHnvLI57cfVGMgrSRa7HbdIDyQJQwDg70NYMrgFyPSrIQcuqDUDyxZlV 4iVwF3DQDprPBE+5FOSlQagTeFHq+aUQWp/TA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:48:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Luis, What sort of problems are you having when trying sync mobius and ableton? I have no issues with mobius as the master, other than sometimes a loop that I hear as a single bar ends up as two bars in ableton (or vice versa, can't remember which right now). BPM sync is solid and seems to re-sync at the start of the loop. Sylvain On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Jeff i have a question, > in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin > there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with > Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to > it. > Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper > is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in future > versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps? > cheers > Luis > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >> >>> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should >>> and stay there on subsequent passes. =A0A couple of attempts have ended >>> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the >>> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. >> If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation gu= ide: >> =A0=A0 http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency >> >> Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card >> you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. =A0It is >> possible >> for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but >> you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the >> Audio Devices window. =A0Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what >> the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. >> This is explained in the manual. >> If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that >> have very low latency. =A0Often people don't even bother tuning latency >> compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it >> is off by a few milliseconds. >> As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try >> ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. =A0I ha= ve >> had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you >> should still consider an external interface. >>> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's >>> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. >> I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune >> latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it >> won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location >> relative to your monitor speakers. >> Jeff >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 20:53:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EA3D183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-24_09:2011-03-24,2011-03-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103240121 Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:53:48 -0700 Message-id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Works pretty well for me too regardless of who is clock master. Though I did see some problems in the presence of a midi clock loop once... After I figured out how the clock was looping back in, i shut the door and the issue was resolved daniel On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Luis, > > What sort of problems are you having when trying sync mobius and > ableton? I have no issues with mobius as the master, other than > sometimes a loop that I hear as a single bar ends up as two bars in > ableton (or vice versa, can't remember which right now). BPM sync is > solid and seems to re-sync at the start of the loop. > > Sylvain > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Jeff i have a question, >> in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin >> there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with >> Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to >> it. >> Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper >> is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in future >> versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: >>> >>>> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should >>>> and stay there on subsequent passes. A couple of attempts have ended >>>> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the >>>> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. >>> If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation guide: >>> http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency >>> >>> Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound card >>> you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. It is >>> possible >>> for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up but >>> you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the >>> Audio Devices window. Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what >>> the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. >>> This is explained in the manual. >>> If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that >>> have very low latency. Often people don't even bother tuning latency >>> compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it >>> is off by a few milliseconds. >>> As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try >>> ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. I have >>> had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you >>> should still consider an external interface. >>>> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's >>>> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. >>> I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune >>> latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it >>> won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location >>> relative to your monitor speakers. >>> Jeff >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 21:17:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD47618349C; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jp2d497TTz4+ET4L/rLS1RGsIqwjB7dKCtSshvS0Crs=; b=pW+H4lGd230NppgNd9xTeQUnQVMLTV+GJYkSvMMM+XYXFIzgBHziQmYd7qcn7vOCzm Bglht7pm/+2swkTXHnFyvlYexCsieS3g3CdH+f61n3Mcmk0h5Fcg/nUxyPYlRUvK7Qj1 bdCq/EAt7od7DjsoAUxevOae/o7a+W4p/iML0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=k++5jvCFbfpi60aJN0vSC3jhQAWZY4XbSM9yE3u+KujkF4X0PEsAXrx475E0LJ1eXn 7xAPlE8J+n00StH4oFzhtjI5atay4wSRmlzHl+ET0ILaqO1H3FEsNqQPNtdBwPhfjnvo 37qswPc/JWB99dCnNR8WCvp5L4AJCNZXpeAqk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:17:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EpuBnVBF2PcbFgO4CP5iClMNVQk Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <67bgeD.A.heF.uT7iNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:17:34 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker wrote: > Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the issues that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going on the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed issues, but not quite as you have understood them. The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance apart, about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference with stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't accidentally trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about its making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have switched something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see if it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a problem... heh heh)... Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, its flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would completely erase any issue here... As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just not for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really miss them coolio lights... Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will too.. I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you haven't got...?? Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with it... Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are not happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there and back, thats well over 100 dollars... just my 1000 cents.. M. -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 21:45:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB27183456; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8BBB7D.9060503@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:45:33 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for March 19, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_JdlJ.A.mJG.Eu7iNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:45:40 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110319.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #194 March 19, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Shroud of Night * Circadian Rhythms (Timeroom) VA [Quiet Point] Beyond the Quiet Sequences No. 12 Point VA [Glass House] The Real World Sequences No. 12 VA [Ian Boddy] Spirits Sequences No. 12 Johan Agebjorn Amylium Casparium The Mountain Lake (Lotuspike) Spyra Die Blinden No Beats for 1 Hour (Ricochet Dream) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Robert Fox The Velvet Hour Short Stories (AD Music) Uwe Gronau Watching the Sound Midsummer (none) Josh Johnston Saving a Life The Shape of Things (Shandon) Craig Karolus Standing On Top Standing On Top (none) Bones & Tones Dance for Suwoo Bones & Tones (Freedom Art) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== ASIA Heaven Arena (InsideOut) Yes Siberian Khatru Extended Versions (BMG) Porcupine Tree Deadwing Deadwinf (Lava) Hidria Spacefolk Jahwarp Live Eleven am (NEARfest) The Muffins Walking the Duck Bandwidth (Cuneiform) Schicke, Fuhrs, Wizzard Sunburst (Esoteric) and Frohling * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:01:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8603D183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8BBF3B.8000908@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:01:31 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:01:37 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Beautiful Blue Sky" on O-Town Music. For details, See the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar You'll also hear new music from Sensitive Chaos. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:09:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA1A1183449; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uWKLUSmRfU811jIINIgvCORdppgeHIpm8CS1w1H1BH8=; b=xOg4rc16a3RsyIYHnAFOQpCv6S7Xs/+teebGh/tIye0Ie6Y2wpCbGPgzgIa0FeqHwu St5dQrc4rWvK5dtMbAJMoLI4tpYVbXHQxFYfVOC2srQi57cfxEQ7p2a6MdjNKeaAb8Md BgJG50LTHheBPXXEsfrFIsltvQkkTtk1G30Fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UoPqjN66NCATGAyZfbpZd3yxabTeaV15TYkvRU3PIuXn9QabNFu0Se+TVGjR+N0Bdj JFKRj+hMArxokrtNOChvrDTfuR+bAs3j4mOKWwJjdd9lYn8NbkW2j14JEH08ifePSzEE asjoUCZvmFqfnJoM3WB6fxybOwkj6sT+FQi6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:09:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into ableton perfectly in sync. Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in realtime by turning things on and off etc. Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. Try it! Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/cou= ld > just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight > record audio post analog effects? > > > > Ao > > > > From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig > > > > well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx > plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius > inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i > gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the > clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be > quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker > wrote: > > Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothin= g > of this ableton of which you speak" > > > > My thoughts exactly, =A0I'm wondering what is the essential =A0reason for > running one platform inside another? =A0=A0Mobius=A0running in=A0Abelton= =A0as an > example? or superlooper in Abelton. =A0Is it for managing effects plug in= s or > more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect > issues oozing to the surface.... > > Thanks > > =A0Bill > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:18:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92A8C183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EMwcmuLOn4PV7eYO06CY+tELnSIARmYqYlU+8BSUP5c=; b=BecWWgHhZFW5G1580BFe3c/zchEvi7CtynMVKDD3JbQHvaNE7FP6y+ZEYpKTPQk2Hc 1+MmPvma2tUiRnuLZfHa+iR2UiuGO93sNkKagGx+jCMpMNMfZyBHSNSHRDQKD9XgVNc8 q4hsIQLwNFGxp2fGqORD9k6nShWHGrY9d1cak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PgFIeghsQuY+92TWwDZt/YXc3aAkYm2/SqfmBYsuHRBTrpMHh4tW987IhV3PKwKNSM OYOYDRuFolooPNClexmREQin+57i5WopQh51FYuwPJbQN3Bq7+9eX6+sby8IZwety6Zj 66UxLwg78I5rpYJzjZ+ik1Gz9GlJcIJoBqi78= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:18:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:18:39 +0000 (UTC) ok,so put a sample drum loop in Ableton,put mobius under syncronization to "out" so it sends midi clock to ableton,record a groove in Mobius and tell me if the groove is in perfect sync with Mobius. Here it isnt,the tempo in ableton doesnt read exactly with Mobius tempo,however when mobius is slaved to ableton it seems ok,and if it isnt it retriggers and catches up to the groove. cheers Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Luis, > > What sort of problems are you having when trying sync mobius and > ableton? =A0I have no issues with mobius as the master, other than > sometimes a loop that I hear as a single bar ends up as two bars in > ableton (or vice versa, can't remember which right now). =A0BPM sync is > solid and seems to re-sync at the start of the loop. > > Sylvain > > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Jeff i have a question, >> in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin >> there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with >> Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to >> it. >> Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper >> is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in future >> versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps? >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >>> >>>> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they should >>>> and stay there on subsequent passes. =A0A couple of attempts have ende= d >>>> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using the >>>> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. >>> If you haven't already done so, read this section of the installation g= uide: >>> =A0=A0 http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency >>> >>> Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound car= d >>> you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. =A0It is >>> possible >>> for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line up bu= t >>> you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the >>> Audio Devices window. =A0Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what >>> the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it manually. >>> This is explained in the manual. >>> If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers that >>> have very low latency. =A0Often people don't even bother tuning latency >>> compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if it >>> is off by a few milliseconds. >>> As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try >>> ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. =A0I h= ave >>> had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality you >>> should still consider an external interface. >>>> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per it's >>>> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a bit. >>> I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune >>> latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set it >>> won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location >>> relative to your monitor speakers. >>> Jeff >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:22:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02D01183486; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2991 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:22:13 UTC References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <09222FD3-2258-4842-A1E5-43D3D552123E@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:22:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Do you have a MIDI "loopback" device connected between Mobius and = Ableton? You will need either MIDI Yoke or LoopBe1. Jeff On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > ok,so put a sample drum loop in Ableton,put mobius under > syncronization to "out" so it sends midi clock to ableton,record a > groove in Mobius and tell me if the groove is in perfect sync with > Mobius. > Here it isnt,the tempo in ableton doesnt read exactly with Mobius > tempo,however when mobius is slaved to ableton it seems ok,and if it > isnt it retriggers and catches up to the groove. > cheers > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Sylvain Poitras > wrote: >> Luis, >>=20 >> What sort of problems are you having when trying sync mobius and >> ableton? I have no issues with mobius as the master, other than >> sometimes a loop that I hear as a single bar ends up as two bars in >> ableton (or vice versa, can't remember which right now). BPM sync is >> solid and seems to re-sync at the start of the loop. >>=20 >> Sylvain >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Louie Angulo >> wrote: >>> Jeff i have a question, >>> in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin >>> there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with >>> Ableton which is unfortunately unusable if trying to sync grooves to >>> it. >>> Mobius seems to be much better as a slave though,but Abletons looper >>> is very acurate as a master.Is this something that will work in = future >>> versions just as well when being used as a plugin perhaps? >>> cheers >>> Luis >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I've been trying to set up the above so overdubs go where they = should >>>>> and stay there on subsequent passes. A couple of attempts have = ended >>>>> in frustration, i figured not helped by the fact that I'm using = the >>>>> built-in soundcard on an old desktop machine. >>>> If you haven't already done so, read this section of the = installation guide: >>>> http://www.circularlabs.com/doc/installation.htm#Tuning Latency >>>>=20 >>>> Assuming you are using Windows, if you are using the built-in sound = card >>>> you will be using an "MME" driver which has very high latency. It = is >>>> possible >>>> for Mobius to compensate for this so that your overdubs will line = up but >>>> you have to enter the right values into the latency fields in the >>>> Audio Devices window. Sometimes the driver is able to tell us what >>>> the latency is, other times it can't and we have to enter it = manually. >>>> This is explained in the manual. >>>> If you use a pro audio interface it will come with ASIO drivers = that >>>> have very low latency. Often people don't even bother tuning = latency >>>> compensation since it is so slight that it is hard to hear even if = it >>>> is off by a few milliseconds. >>>> As an alternative to buying a pro interface you could also try >>>> ASIO4ALL which will give the built-in sound card an ASIO driver. I = have >>>> had success with this, but if you're serious about sound quality = you >>>> should still consider an external interface. >>>>> Reading the previous thread on mobius latency, according to Per = it's >>>>> not possible to achieve perfect sync i.e. it will always drift a = bit. >>>> I'm not sure what this was referring to, but you can certainly tune >>>> latency compesnation for exact alignment of overdubs and once set = it >>>> won't drift unless you are also changing your physical location >>>> relative to your monitor speakers. >>>> Jeff >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:22:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D73218349F; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-24_09:2011-03-24,2011-03-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103240133 Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:22:18 -0700 Message-id: <276A372B-BCF3-4C92-BA0B-7CD81B8D26FE@mac.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:22:33 +0000 (UTC) > Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! I was pretty impressed this looper.... It was certainly easy to get going with. But for a couple of things, it may have been my primary looping platform I'll mention my issues w/ the Ableton looper here as it may save someone else the time. Or, perhaps one you wizards will shed a light on a better method. Two issues keep me from living and breathing Ableton looper. 1) Synchronized Multi Channel looping with the Ableton looper was very cumbersome to set up and, though I am not sure this was the root cause, multi channel looping with the ableton looper is the only time I have ever seen a kernel panic on my Intel MBPRO. 2) No EDP style multiply function--- This is integral to nearly all of my preferred looping workflows. d On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch > shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into > ableton perfectly in sync. > Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn > function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller > You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so > imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you > have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create > arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like > delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! > So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in > ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in > realtime by turning things on and off etc. > Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with > mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little > looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of > x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like > looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. > Try it! > Luis > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/could >> just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straight >> record audio post analog effects? >> >> >> >> Ao >> >> >> >> From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig >> >> >> >> well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with fx >> plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobius >> inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i >> gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the >> clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be >> quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker >> wrote: >> >> Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know nothing >> of this ableton of which you speak" >> >> >> >> My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for >> running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an >> example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug ins or >> more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect >> issues oozing to the surface.... >> >> Thanks >> >> Bill >> >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:25:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED41518349D; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0VVVL+WBVR7o9q30/bTWNUGD1fk1xLwa8b23mRS/rnE=; b=hDig6VlmP+2Df6Da1g6ofQgudelBugqox5HnZHxniy9BoHZfpqceJiwZMY5vQBblA9 xK7dkN8iqh5xi7+eiiws+s4zvdckfnUsW0RUj0wQwOXNRUGuJYI0YUY5EEmCY9WaFQkk jG/h60jrzg+1ZrAqe0jJtvuDInOMNZmOJtStI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AysbfwegpFmv3UXOLQdpmksn8P8kCg58dQA1M2SX5yTSnFlicej9OodA+NjDFmeAkV LxfbK8zNivprUFULBqcn7rHA3E3e80B0rtUbMnCv1ObQoBAO+l3WHxuvKKr9LK4wIs6d JwUQcbV0SLsZ69UxvuH96Wqe8Z+3c1b81TvAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <09222FD3-2258-4842-A1E5-43D3D552123E@zonemobius.com> References: <09222FD3-2258-4842-A1E5-43D3D552123E@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:25:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Jeff Larson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1510f56ff5049f41f3eb Resent-Message-ID: <4ytXx.A.jhH.VT8iNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:25:25 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1510f56ff5049f41f3eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unless you're on a Mac, then you have to use an IAC bus. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > Do you have a MIDI "loopback" device connected between Mobius and Ableton? > You will need either MIDI Yoke or LoopBe1. > > Jeff > > --0015174c1510f56ff5049f41f3eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unless you're on a Mac, then you have to use an IAC bus.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com> wrote:


Do you have a MIDI "loopback" device connected between Mobius and Ableton?
You will need either MIDI Yoke or LoopBe1.

Jeff

--0015174c1510f56ff5049f41f3eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:34:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2A5A18349D; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kmfIyzXMhM74bpa4M0pnHWrBqW784manNcMBxWN5Pdo=; b=PQa/st3SYaO6oVwqgjSQuCqbizKPkzPvP40Egi87ksPQOZIphagO1PsdQvyGxir7lO 1NOxFKBTXCI4I4qUdNXQe5yYD1H5RFKz7D+vp3286iluBbzg13zHkS58l3Z5ElX8TZRl 3Y357yg7tI2oA9SJkiRuNgLrsyYLzz8sbdARM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VJdLjG6O6qokW24DT475EVaUqAMwwWT6FsZB4zsUlP3s5MtXUSgf//9NVo4OEQLHSJ 1D6482kyqnhesrREedK5+zCKaq7GyQbYPiWlZSo2O2ltEsWgwWEqk54h2oIV1urKSkwn Y9mDXf4ahtC8mqzd7s9wqP3ASSAnG3IVycrK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <09222FD3-2258-4842-A1E5-43D3D552123E@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:34:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff, yes,i have in mobius under input devices my RME soundcard input ports activated so i can control it with my foot controller then midi out with the IAC driver bus in ableton i havenc the IAC driver activated with track,sync Mobius sync mode is"out" thanx Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Unless you're on a Mac, then you have to use an IAC bus. > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: >> >> >> Do you have a MIDI "loopback" device connected between Mobius and Ableton? >> You will need either MIDI Yoke or LoopBe1. >> >> Jeff >> > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:37:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEFEE1834A6; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oc7tQKx1mByb3okjVCoAgrWxDFTrKJOjpeGbVjuepb4=; b=kJOxcFl27g+gsa/jxQ4Eh929HyMaV+49+54kM1ybv+ippvNxVgiycDqmxaW2kQYP5E g9poKEN6JaE6Xvypl8js0/L0VIMlEbqZ5dJG1tP9I1q05/MPkE+1KWlXFMMpiZ1Qf4Mc lc+dOUUWcrjHFbz/kCsZp0Mdbf37Z1hiDM+WQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gt/rwPCL7vjdTqmEbJpObskyo+zYLLm/nohXV1XsEYIvN/GUoe2/nr1iinemowgijy wrUrl9wN50NHjlQAdY8DmGbzMM9e2Miz+B3UUTyV4BlPa0EJZU/wDPwklU4NuWdHA3fK 6KtG64iVjtKQtHfWVQjyoge5jb85D/79227WM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <276A372B-BCF3-4C92-BA0B-7CD81B8D26FE@mac.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <276A372B-BCF3-4C92-BA0B-7CD81B8D26FE@mac.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:37:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:37:06 +0000 (UTC) havent had an issue with that at all using Abletons looper,then again im using mac i should also mentioned that mobius crashed badly a couple of times in conjunction with ableton so i stop using it for the meantime... Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Daniel Thomas wro= te: >> Andy,ive been working with both lately and have =A0pretty much down the >> basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little >> looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > > =A0I was pretty impressed this looper.... It was certainly easy to get go= ing with. =A0But for a couple of things, it may have been my primary loopin= g platform > > I'll mention my issues w/ the Ableton looper here as it may save someone = else the time. =A0Or, perhaps one you wizards will shed a light on a better= method. > > Two issues keep me from living and breathing Ableton looper. > > 1) =A0Synchronized Multi Channel looping with the Ableton looper was very= cumbersome to set up and, though I am not sure this was the root cause, mu= lti channel looping with the ableton looper is the only time I have ever se= en a kernel panic on my Intel MBPRO. > 2) =A0No EDP style multiply function--- =A0This is integral to nearly all= of my preferred looping workflows. > > d > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Andy,ive been working with both lately and have =A0pretty much down the >> basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little >> looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! >> it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch >> shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into >> ableton perfectly in sync. >> Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn >> function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller >> You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so >> imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you >> have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create >> arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like >> delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! >> So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in >> ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in >> realtime by turning things on and off etc. >> Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with >> mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little >> looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of >> x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like >> looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. >> Try it! >> Luis >> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens wrot= e: >>> So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you would/c= ould >>> just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just straig= ht >>> record audio post analog effects? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ao >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig >>> >>> >>> >>> well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with = fx >>> plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobi= us >>> inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i >>> gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. t= he >>> clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be >>> quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know noth= ing >>> of this ableton of which you speak" >>> >>> >>> >>> My thoughts exactly, =A0I'm wondering what is the essential =A0reason f= or >>> running one platform inside another? =A0 Mobius running in Abelton as a= n >>> example? or superlooper in Abelton. =A0Is it for managing effects plug = ins or >>> more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect >>> issues oozing to the surface.... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> =A0Bill >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 22:57:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C2C1834AB; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 587517536/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkCAGTLi01YbRAR/2dsb2JhbAAMmEGWQLw+hWkEkDU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,239,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="587517536" Message-ID: <4D8BCC6E.7090003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:57:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 Foot controller for a dream looper References: <05D14AC2-C675-4C96-80F5-6C9D751A2ED5@grubmah.com> <4D8AD21D.9010905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D8AD21D.9010905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4FXNED.A.Yh.vx8iNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Additionally, if you make a loop and then call up a second loop (there > are up to 8 loops > allowed) you can with a bit of fancy footwork go back and forth between > sequential > loops like in the EDP. How do you do that? It's a new feature isn't it? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 23:26:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94FB18349E; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <09222FD3-2258-4842-A1E5-43D3D552123E@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:26:29 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Check the sample rate of the RME. Mobius requires 44.1K for MIDI sync. It is 48K the MIDI clocks generated by Mobius won't match the loop = length. Jeff On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi Jeff, > yes,i have in mobius under input devices my RME soundcard input ports > activated so i can control it with my foot controller > then midi out with the IAC driver bus > in ableton i havenc the IAC driver activated with track,sync > Mobius sync mode is"out" > thanx > Luis >=20 > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >> Unless you're on a Mac, then you have to use an IAC bus. >>=20 >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Do you have a MIDI "loopback" device connected between Mobius and = Ableton? >>> You will need either MIDI Yoke or LoopBe1. >>>=20 >>> Jeff >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 24 23:40:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2990918349D; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SRURS6fj8f/4uDJ57ivZW/gHWPanGgW56wFioqGCZ4s=; b=akhyrKsFwTaK4Xkr60sjSofh7d6U4GmVpSHUGAWIvHH8MydyqiXzK04jylzIfwHM4c PfRKUAS64ZAgjr4unBl3e+EWDwpGRosBq/AVYWcOZs/T/hY2h1rabgCCqdvfV9DDp+If WW0IqqlkjRdaxmPSr4+rKig43HrPsLhiUlpoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j6LmxlQggF2DJEkaMmf66WjPFlLGQLN4v2mNWPASixPMGrEWHWOdNjHnryHP5XzqvB eQgvEW8QDKgjW+g6K9gE9LbDopv0TloZ+5HYNgORN+E5OXcwoIlP6X96RyMkLKJkY5sH +3KRXj7TvQDPIqX+UZ+7yFQfSGDQtWyN6xk2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:40:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:40:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with > mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little > looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of > x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like > looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. > Try it! > Luis Hehe ;-) I knew you would like Ableton. For me, it's the most stable AU host I have used so far compared to Bidule, NI Kore2 and Mainstage. Haven't tested it with Mobius yet, so I can't comment on that, I'm still an Expert Sleepers looper, Augustus to be precise ;-) Anyway, if you look at the recent video from the Antwerp Loopfest, you hear Ableton with several Ableton, NI and EXS plugins / loopers and you also see me use a Vestax VCM-600 midi controller, one of the midi controllers on the market which has been fully integrated with Ableton Live and comes with a default mapping for it. Others are the Akai MPC40 and the Novation Launchpad. http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/video-of-antwerp-loopfest (last 15 minutes) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 00:12:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7666818349D; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:32:18 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC) > On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > in playing around with both Abletons looper and Mobius as a plugin > there is a BPM difference when i try to use Mobius as a master with > Ableton The BPM that Mobius displays is sometimes different than what the host displays due to differences in rounding. For example, a BPM is almost never exactly 120, it's either 120.084762537 or 119.7983675761 or some other precise floating point number. But applications never display it that way, they typically display only tenths of a beat, so the first one could be 120.0 or 120.1 or 121 depending on how you round. Also BPMs derived from MIDI clocks are always guesses based on measuring the distance between clocks. Because of clock jitter this distance may change slightly over time and you have to use a "smoothing" algorithm to pick a stable tempo. The algorithm the host uses may be different than what the plugin uses. So while the numbers you see in the UI may be different, it is usually close enough. Internally Ableton is counting clocks the BPM it displays is just an approximation. Personally, I let Mobius be the clock master when I want to slave other plugins that are sensitive to tempo but are not playing loops, things like delays and panners. When I sync with pre-recorded Live clips, I use Host Bar sync and let the host be the master. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 06:11:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5696F183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9F0DB7C2-D63C-4EAB-A686-95A2B252B35E@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-603713207 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:11:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1X5eeD.A.XY.7HDjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:11:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-603713207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will too.. I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you haven't got...?? Go spend money on it and Not even close Amigo, i was just trying to draw people out about the why and how, and I was wondering if anyone was actually trying to find solutions, and /or work arounds or just whining and blameing their tools , you know, like bad carpenters do ;-) Its an intriguing pedal to me for the silent switching aspect that I could see using when recording with open mics . i also thought it might be a cool hand controller as well for DAW applications. You may not have noticed but, although I'm often times one of the first people to try the latest and geatest gear out, because I work part time at a pretty big music shop, I'm often the last guy to actually buy the gear, due to budget constraints, with a few exceptions being where I'm given gear or earned it through work exchange. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-603713207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means = other people will too..
I want it to work, its such a good idea, and = I like companies who do
something different and new... they deserved = to do well, but I do get
a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... = Keith...hes... like... a
neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of = the friend of your wifes
sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you = wanna defend something you
haven't got...??
Go spend money on it = and

Not even close Amigo, i was just trying to = draw people out about the why and how,   and I was wondering if = anyone was actually trying to find solutions, and /or work arounds or = just whining  and blameing their tools , you know,  like bad = carpenters do ;-) Its an intriguing  pedal to me for the silent = switching aspect that I could see using when  recording  with = open mics . i also thought it might be a cool hand controller as well = for DAW applications.  You may not have noticed but, although I'm = often times one of the first people to try the latest and geatest gear = out, because I work part time at a pretty big  music shop, I'm = often the last guy to actually buy the gear,  due to budget = constraints, with a few exceptions being where I'm given gear or earned = it through work exchange.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-603713207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 06:24:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65D6E183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301034280; bh=45tqjvzWgQjjx64YM9VUJ8bisAHzHPiJ/1uAc+MOU2I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ac6lS6b8F5cqBzMymkEAz34+n+srapNoz4j2FmE6/3RbjGCBxLE5U1ZQqZbMYfvOsh3r++BidSPJ26KkUrF/MKCgpTI8CyzCSw4t6BBtRG7veGub4zvsRhvWLf+VrHEBzHrAuRp1TmJNGCIKgFAUUsdWHRjHS22sxRwfXf6f/PU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S24be10bLioN20WIRoCZ0kSwH7tKRZGBa0al/4HLP+EbkmpERBrnm75DCM4TuCYsG+5juRPqg2RnnRSvFkMX8mWG3chuZKO1/Ljs3y7N01Ntf382S9Kmj52wS4od6wJxb3pppPCEoUb5KBzlRNjwQqZDo8co9nw2fwAkwVzueIM=; Message-ID: <641788.44368.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QMtGZW0VM1lbH1Wg7c4.2gxnGjzWF1Ey79OUvRlHfHbksi0 3JPnkxvaJhBcVCUg4gjFWqA22HPOjBnR_wnmshQuH6vpMeN3VKgx71bCvKak TUTec2IbKvPYRXM7hDDfVGA61ZfFjYuphHl1R_OAikbDQhedTpKG1LHZFvCr KFzuYNoD2FYsamO8cW_lmZve2N0dGa0vsE9Re3t10oRSHCivKCPCel_8gdZk jfEiRCmuARsxQh3jAveQahXdiCHMZBfRrXyKm0P4gq8S2EArhBarhtH8C1o_ G0HwFBV10TZn0OwUFBeHb0Kdsdx9b0ILWgcAyjOnVuYpcRpP_9BUbKWPB6E. kM_EqFCQrFtC2frW_l152GNJa.LlNo5J44kUFQVAcg5d6J3Dk.TtAFw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <9F0DB7C2-D63C-4EAB-A686-95A2B252B35E@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9F0DB7C2-D63C-4EAB-A686-95A2B252B35E@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-13214436-1301034280=:44368" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:24:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-13214436-1301034280=:44368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey, using it as a hand controller is a great idea. Many bare feet with toe exercises would work too. Sounds like this piece needs another layer of design built into it: the soft step II: set on a tilted stand, feedback when triggered (could the lights flash when trigger is hit?) Antony ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 7:11:00 AM Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will too.. I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you haven't got...?? Go spend money on it and Not even close Amigo, i was just trying to draw people out about the why and how, and I was wondering if anyone was actually trying to find solutions, and /or work arounds or just whining and blameing their tools , you know, like bad carpenters do ;-) Its an intriguing pedal to me for the silent switching aspect that I could see using when recording with open mics . i also thought it might be a cool hand controller as well for DAW applications. You may not have noticed but, although I'm often times one of the first people to try the latest and geatest gear out, because I work part time at a pretty big music shop, I'm often the last guy to actually buy the gear, due to budget constraints, with a few exceptions being where I'm given gear or earned it through work exchange. Bill --0-13214436-1301034280=:44368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

using it as a hand controller is a great idea. Many bare feet with toe exercises would work too. Sounds like this piece needs another layer of design built into it: the soft step II: set on a tilted stand, feedback when triggered (could the lights flash when trigger is hit?)

Antony

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 7:11:00 AM
Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep?

Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will too..
I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do
something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get
a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a
neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes
sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you
haven't got...??
Go spend money on it and

Not even close Amigo, i was just trying to draw people out about the why and how,   and I was wondering if anyone was actually trying to find solutions, and /or work arounds or just whining  and blameing their tools , you know,  like bad carpenters do ;-) Its an intriguing  pedal to me for the silent switching aspect that I could see using when  recording  with open mics . i also thought it might be a cool hand controller as well for DAW applications.  You may not have noticed but, although I'm often times one of the first people to try the latest and geatest gear out, because I work part time at a pretty big  music shop, I'm often the last guy to actually buy the gear,  due to budget constraints, with a few exceptions being where I'm given gear or earned it through work exchange.
Bill

--0-13214436-1301034280=:44368-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 06:40:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B192A183447; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8C38DC.9080508@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:40:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 Foot controller for a dream looper References: <4D8BCC6E.7090003@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D8BCC6E.7090003@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-c0YfC.A.1sB.kjDjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:40:36 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > How do you do that? > > It's a new feature isn't it? > > andy yes! One Bob put in along with, I'm proud to say, 1/4 speed and retrigger/random which I contributed. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 07:35:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6941833E4; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 594351103/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.245/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.245 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMCAAVFjE1YbR71/2dsb2JhbAAMmEbSX4VpBJA9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,242,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="594351103" Message-ID: <4D8C45B1.5020006@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:35:13 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 Foot controller for a dream looper References: <4D8BCC6E.7090003@tiscali.co.uk> <4D8C38DC.9080508@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D8C38DC.9080508@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2CkvZC.A.AnC.xWEjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:35:13 +0000 (UTC) so...what does it do? Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> How do you do that? >> >> It's a new feature isn't it? >> >> andy > yes! One Bob put in along with, I'm proud to say, 1/4 speed and > retrigger/random > which I contributed. > > rick > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 07:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D079F183449; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Tg5ScVYelgZ5hagF2YURoPsphy31z0Twp0jYUIfR0Do=; b=mwDbrB/9FjW3elaYQ0gat7yH9ihJjt3rbPXU5C1QsWFHhWK/xiNLVJyeBmLJBwKc0s e44ce7zDN+9HNh1Nf5nnrBKYv609CyfSRYFoCTH/hLHWQl7XT6oJH3FQUe9p4WbYJtHr x+nWmDn19CAwz1QMzt9kt0TQbip9/itmaTMtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FZpCgEnZZVSJkbiVCLnrdD91Mszg2505bME1d/6TajlViEyYFhe4rFqnhat9yicGXd otWpXNxT8JQkg3Oj+6z4whMzbuLL2E1Zu1rTpfDtq/L5gKCvM2esXSyrWJYtb52AjeFc YXUcO3psUM9vqDzN26TABTzdY/axjjU5xKfNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:37:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:37:11 +0000 (UTC) it was a nice idea but in my opinion quite premature and too x-pensive,now If you wanna buy expensive equipment to have to find work arounds and wait for upgrades that adress basic stuff that other cheaper devices do it,i surely wont. The thing for me is not worth the money at the moment.I spent over a month trying my best with this thing,making calls to the U.S. and even sent a supportive email of hope but at the end i relaized it wasnt gonna happen any time soon. i also lost the shipping as Mark did and had to mail them a few times to get the dow back.Sarah was very supportive though bad mistake bringing it to europe without letting it mature first,learned my lesson for good. Im lucky i recently found a PMC10,for 80.00dlls is not that big and it works great and does just about everything one can ever need Ah yes some people have all the luck and dont have to pay for their equipment. Which makes us just wining morons;-) Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker wrote: >> Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? > > I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the issues > that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going on > the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if > you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed > issues, but not quite as you have understood them. > > The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance apart, > about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference with > stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't accidentally > trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. > > The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it > wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. > > The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about its > making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little > monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have switched > something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see if > it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a > problem... heh heh)... > > Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, its > flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would > completely erase any issue here... > > As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just not > for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really miss > them coolio lights... > > Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will too.. > I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do > something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get > a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a > neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes > sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you > haven't got...?? > Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with it... > > Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are not > happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit > difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there and > back, thats well over 100 dollars... > > > just my 1000 cents.. > > M. > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 07:45:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94AA8183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HHe4sFRS4G9P6ZEYG6yzNAvUh56x5n3CZXNY73xT1bU=; b=WUbK4ikglyjHfmBbySlVY857MxVsuphD16K8/5IIC0bb3nldAzsm1g2KcvKG+QnrHQ c+ehOZQ2HoB4KvT6M6IlkndUmiMxWwR0+LaTMn7u/Jsiy6vnToiCvbN/+q8fcWJKjJHv gkIOt5GZcq8iimBQLliL0rw5hI0bJRJXGECvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wZ/s4MsWSP6J1+BVVW3gQKMiQkEo0L41hnQ+NywhC5BvJII15nFj7+ycX+fUtUg+Pg Y9et36kgh8vCfXSBDtoPkxBF2oM60jFGZ8F/kbjNpVYIb4SkMyhgEtu1r3xnoCNlWQuO oJ2q/PgzIzCdjayGl29fclNEyLu0QqwoQI+Qg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:45:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Ok Jeff thats what i thought after messing with this for a while,makes sense! This is exactly the same problem when syncing Ableton to my EDP,i still have to try out a software drum machine but say why does a hardware drum machine(like the adrenalinn for ex.) sync perfectly when Mobius or the EDP are masters then? are laptops not designed to do this? > > Personally, I let Mobius be the clock master when I want > to slave other plugins that are sensitive to tempo but > are not playing loops, things like delays and panners. > When I sync with pre-recorded Live clips, I > use Host Bar sync and let the host be the master. > > Jeff > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 07:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D91218349D; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xA/iKMdOXc0iMjhCnH9Cm8yh71jvJSTgVIkD16D4auk=; b=Wh5cdX4Zr2H9gq0fUbzsSCtCaBUEtyToBkKHodmhMmMcdH3b5mlAzhtjJfyQtAHgI2 yNl6/o1ujvYUkR3Gck0ctGNximmUtXLe6DExGvg5rONPVJcrrpPDHUPCJwEHzg172TWW 4JKK46IC8zFE2utu0QJOoJQWg5LXwpK6gEwJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=At75SYc1rvDoo/Iu68Gnj+F9kEfSx8jMdd+u8W9PwwSwM02bTaiTqQBA/riZ9MBDOQ 4mdVBr2rA9OZZ+282WeYt92icxGT1thALnhb3OXbnnokbC98zrk3RzXFLdyFdzRuC7j2 r6SzxTVBfstOiT3ilkAEYiqgYVEZDmzbEzoRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:58:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:58:47 +0000 (UTC) yes man! great that you are mentioning the Vestax VCM-600 midi controller gotta check it out,ive been debating which controller to use for Ableton right now im just using the cheap nano kontrol for basic stuff what made you choose this over the akai or novation pads anyway? On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrot= e: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with >> mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little >> looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of >> x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like >> looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. >> Try it! >> Luis > > Hehe ;-) I knew you would like Ableton. For me, it's the most stable > AU host I have used so far compared to Bidule, NI Kore2 and Mainstage. > Haven't tested it with Mobius yet, so I can't comment on that, I'm > still an Expert Sleepers looper, Augustus to be precise ;-) =A0Anyway, > if you look at the recent video from the Antwerp Loopfest, you hear > Ableton with several Ableton, NI and EXS plugins / loopers and you > also see me use a Vestax VCM-600 midi controller, one of the midi > controllers on the market which has been fully integrated with Ableton > Live and comes with a default mapping for it. Others are the Akai > MPC40 and the Novation Launchpad. > > http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/video-of-antwerp-loopfest > (last 15 minutes) > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 08:24:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0574C183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6f00a1dc-6a00-4b2c-aca6-51b9948271ad_" X-Originating-IP: [86.143.210.234] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:24:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2011 08:24:50.0144 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BD32E00:01CBEAC6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:24:51 +0000 (UTC) --_6f00a1dc-6a00-4b2c-aca6-51b9948271ad_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to second this. I've migrated to Abletn since I was asked to teach i= t at college and it's been a revelation to me. Rock stable and well laid ou= t=2C (even if it won't win any beauty pageants). The looper is excellent and pretty much all controlled from 1 pedal - that'= s well thought out. I'm turning some students on to looping this semester a= nd they're lapping it up. We're synching to Arkaos for visuals too - the co= mbination is intuitve and deep - not easy to achieve.. Peace G Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Date: Thu=2C 24 Mar 2011 23:09:57 +0100 > Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Andy=2Cive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics=2Cthough Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > it has all the important stuff you need=2Crecord=2Cmultiply=2Coverdub=2Cp= itch > shift=2Cfeedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into > ableton perfectly in sync. > Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn > function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller > You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well=2Cso > imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you > have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create > arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like > delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! > So now that you have all that enchilada going=2Cjust push record in > ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in > realtime by turning things on and off etc. > Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with > mobius that much=2Cthere is som much you can do with the little > looper=2Cand everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of > x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like > looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. > Try it! > Luis >=20 > On Thu=2C Mar 24=2C 2011 at 5:00 PM=2C Andy Owens = wrote: > > So=2C if all you wanted was a simple=2C rock solid looper=2C then you w= ould/could > > just run mobius standalone=2C with no processing or mangling=2C just st= raight > > record audio post analog effects? > > > > > > > > Ao > > > > > > > > From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday=2C March 23=2C 2011 5:41 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig > > > > > > > > well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with = fx > > plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host mobi= us > > inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i > > gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. t= he > > clip can contain controller data=2C or notes or program changes and be > > quantized=2C so you can do some pretty cool stuff. > > > > On Wed=2C Mar 23=2C 2011 at 2:51 AM=2C William Walker > > wrote: > > > > Sim Sez=3B "i ask=2C because i could set up mobius for you=2C but i kno= w nothing > > of this ableton of which you speak" > > > > > > > > My thoughts exactly=2C I'm wondering what is the essential reason for > > running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an > > example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug in= s or > > more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect > > issues oozing to the surface.... > > > > Thanks > > > > Bill > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 = --_6f00a1dc-6a00-4b2c-aca6-51b9948271ad_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to second this. I've migrated to Abletn since I was asked to teach i= t at college and it's been a revelation to me. Rock stable and well laid ou= t=2C (even if it won't win any beauty pageants).
The looper is excellent= and pretty much all controlled from 1 pedal - that's well thought out. I'm= turning some students on to looping this semester and they're lapping it u= p. We're synching to Arkaos for visuals too - the combination is intuitve a= nd deep - not easy to achieve..

Peace

G



Gareth= @Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



>=3B = Date: Thu=2C 24 Mar 2011 23:09:57 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobi= us consulting gig
>=3B From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com
>=3B To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Andy=2Cive been w= orking with both lately and have pretty much down the
>=3B basics=2Ct= hough Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little
>=3B looper= in Ableton 8 is a shy monster!
>=3B it has all the important stuff yo= u need=2Crecord=2Cmultiply=2Coverdub=2Cpitch
>=3B shift=2Cfeedback rev= erse and it will slave any groove you put into
>=3B ableton perfectly = in sync.
>=3B Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate t= he midi learn
>=3B function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot = controller
>=3B You can also use the same looper in different tracks a= s well=2Cso
>=3B imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only = that but once you
>=3B have a loop you like you can insert it in a sce= ne and use it to create
>=3B arrangments.Then you can put any after fx= s adfter the looper like
>=3B delays or reverbs etc. and they will all= sync to the beat!!
>=3B So now that you have all that enchilada going= =2Cjust push record in
>=3B ableton and start recording your performan= ce and arrangement in
>=3B realtime by turning things on and off etc.<= br>>=3B Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed wi= th
>=3B mobius that much=2Cthere is som much you can do with the littl= e
>=3B looper=2Cand everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the= need of
>=3B x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak s= aid is like
>=3B looking at a mixer which makes things very logical.>=3B Try it!
>=3B Luis
>=3B
>=3B On Thu=2C Mar 24=2C 20= 11 at 5:00 PM=2C Andy Owens <=3Bandy@1800dialword.com>=3B wrote:
>= =3B >=3B So=2C if all you wanted was a simple=2C rock solid looper=2C the= n you would/could
>=3B >=3B just run mobius standalone=2C with no pr= ocessing or mangling=2C just straight
>=3B >=3B record audio post an= alog effects?
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B = >=3B Ao
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
>=3B &g= t=3B Sent: Wednesday=2C March 23=2C 2011 5:41 AM
>=3B >=3B To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius= consulting gig
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B well one reason would be so that you could post process the loop= s with fx
>=3B >=3B plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you = want to do. i host mobius
>=3B >=3B inside bidule for this very reas= on. another cool thing about ableton (i
>=3B >=3B gather) is that yo= u can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. the
>=3B >=3B cl= ip can contain controller data=2C or notes or program changes and be
>= =3B >=3B quantized=2C so you can do some pretty cool stuff.
>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B On Wed=2C Mar 23=2C 2011 at 2:51 AM=2C William Walker = <=3Bbillwalker@baymoon.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B=
>=3B >=3B Sim Sez=3B "i ask=2C because i could set up mobius for yo= u=2C but i know nothing
>=3B >=3B of this ableton of which you speak= "
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B My th= oughts exactly=2C  =3BI'm wondering what is the essential  =3Breaso= n for
>=3B >=3B running one platform inside another?  =3B = =3BMobius =3Brunning in =3BAbelton =3Bas an
>=3B >=3B ex= ample? or superlooper in Abelton.  =3BIs it for managing effects plug i= ns or
>=3B >=3B more extended script commands? My embarrasing comput= er brain disconnect
>=3B >=3B issues oozing to the surface....
&g= t=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Thanks
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B  = =3BBill
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B <= br>>=3B --
>=3B www.luis-angulo.com
>=3B
= --_6f00a1dc-6a00-4b2c-aca6-51b9948271ad_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 09:49:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDBC4183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 919 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:49:34 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Reyn vs ... From: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:49:32 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q33e9-0003Z0-8I X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys (and grrrrls), Since I'm writing here, I'll give you an update on my latest loops.. = I've been away from the list for 2 months because I had a big HD failure = on my Mac.. Some video's you might like: ** Old school (but hectic also due to the form of the song and changing = instruments) looping with a small setup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMuqZAqxcwjg ** Electric Looping. I really like this one because it's all electronic. = I'm really beginning dislike these laptop acts with just prefabbed = material turning knobs I don't really hear. In this case there is only a = song and just a loop at the beginning and the rest is improvisation. = Which is pretty much the concept of Reyn vs ..., but I never done it = totally electronic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIx8tIOR6ACA ** Can you believe this? This guy is 19 years old.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOV7aApNxXAs ** Did I ever show you guys this one? I like the buildup at the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpFrizmXlJPA More to see at www.reyn.vs.reyn.net. Also I'm moving studio's this week. Going from my old on to the new one. = Here are some construction pictures of the new studio: = www.studio.reyn.net .. I'll update the pics soon again. Take care, Cheers, Reyn.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 09:53:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F19718349C; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:34:11 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q33PI-0000lm-Nh X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.624, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_20 -0.00, HK_MUCHMONEY 0.30, TW_FC 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:53:10 +0000 (UTC) I used the SoftStep for the first time on my monthly "Reyn vs ..." gig = and was pretty happy with it. I had a small set and I was actually = looping drums with it. First loop main loop for the song, so the timing = was very important. Timing is ok for me and I only wear Converse shoes = on stage so that might help. Also the fact that it's so light and small = and just needs one USB cable (inc the power) really does it for me too. = When you have to set up so much gear the whole time it's nice to only = spend 5 seconds on a single unit. And the lighted buttons are really = chique too. Only thing is that the first trigger keeps going into a Note On mode = after I reset all the loopers (in Ableton now). But that's probably = something I did wrong inside Ableton, although it doesn't do that with = the other buttons that are sometimes 1 on 1 copies. Have to dive into = that. I also read about bugs in the SoftStep or that some had to be = taken back to the shop for a new one, what are those bugs exactly? = 'Cause I hope I at least have a healthy machine. I only used it with the = v1.1 update btw. Bottom line is that so far I'm really happy with it. Works really well = in combination with my Gordius and they fit both in the same flightcase! = :-) Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > it was a nice idea but in my opinion quite premature and too > x-pensive,now If you wanna buy expensive equipment to have to find > work arounds and wait for upgrades that adress basic stuff that other > cheaper devices do it,i surely wont. > The thing for me is not worth the money at the moment.I spent over a > month trying my best with this thing,making calls to the U.S. and even > sent a supportive email of hope but at the end i relaized it wasnt > gonna happen any time soon. > i also lost the shipping as Mark did and had to mail them a few times > to get the dow back.Sarah was very supportive though > bad mistake bringing it to europe without letting it mature > first,learned my lesson for good. > Im lucky i recently found a PMC10,for 80.00dlls is not that big and it > works great and does just about everything one can ever need > Ah yes some people have all the luck and dont have to pay for their = equipment. > Which makes us just wining morons;-) > Luis >=20 > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, mark francombe = wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker = wrote: >>> Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? >>=20 >> I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the issues >> that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going on >> the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if >> you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed >> issues, but not quite as you have understood them. >>=20 >> The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance = apart, >> about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference = with >> stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't accidentally >> trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. >>=20 >> The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it >> wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. >>=20 >> The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about its >> making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little >> monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have switched >> something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see = if >> it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a >> problem... heh heh)... >>=20 >> Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, its >> flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would >> completely erase any issue here... >>=20 >> As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just not >> for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really miss >> them coolio lights... >>=20 >> Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will = too.. >> I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do >> something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get >> a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a >> neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes >> sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something = you >> haven't got...?? >> Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with it... >>=20 >> Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are = not >> happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit >> difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there and >> back, thats well over 100 dollars... >>=20 >>=20 >> just my 1000 cents.. >>=20 >> M. >>=20 >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 09:53:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D0CC1834A0; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2890 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:53:37 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch From: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:57:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q32xG-0006TJ-O0 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Yeh, it's a great tool. Very well made.. Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Hi Rapha=EBl, >=20 > Fantastic work..! I have ordered an iPod touch 4th gen and an Apogee = "Jam" a/d converter.. your app will be my fist purchase... looking = forward to it. >=20 > -Chuck Zwicky >=20 >> Hi Everyone ! >>=20 >> I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper >> lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL, >> which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an >> iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together >> as an app called Everyday Looper. >>=20 >> First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not >> being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great >> information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, = tempo, >> envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it >> in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these >> infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of >> the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper >> displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full >> screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space. >>=20 >> Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real = knobs, >> buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an >> iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the >> first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go >> for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two >> fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to >> change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to >> merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with >> audio. >>=20 >> And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will >> find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and >> final mix path, and quantized to loop recording. >>=20 >> As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course >> all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use >> feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop = track. >> The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are >> vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so >> is the looper too. At least for now ^^. >>=20 >> Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots, >> videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the = direct >> link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper . >>=20 >> The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=A4/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update >> which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=A4/3=A3). But = I >> would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, = if >> you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write >> me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I >> will happily send you one if their is some left. >>=20 >> Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me = questions >> if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it >> regularly :). >>=20 >> Cheers ! >>=20 >> Rapha=EBl >=20 >=20 > -- >=20 > ... > http://www.zmix.net >=20 > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >=20 > http://albumcredits.com/zmix >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 09:55:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AA44183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 594411509/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.245/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.245 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMCAA9mjE1YbR71/2dsb2JhbAAMmEjSCYVpBJA9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,242,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="594411509" Message-ID: <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:55:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > Which makes us just wining morons;-) > Luis I reckon there's 2 sides to this. Essentially us loopers are looking towards small companies to develop new tools. We also want them to modify those tools after release to suit our needs. We're going to have to have patience if we want that to happen. If there's teething troubles with a product, then that's to be expected. Large companies have the budget to do extensive testing on their products, and they also decide the feature set before development, which makes testing *a lot* easier. That's where we get the idea that a new product is going to be perfect from day one. The other side is that some small companies could sometimes do a bit more to recognise this situation, recognise the skills of their user base and not try to behave like large companies. Where small companies are open, and are prepared to engage users as equals there's hardly any whingeing and whining. andy butler ps and when a large company releases a product that doesn't work...I dunnow....let's just slag 'em off :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 10:04:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42E7B183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xLlEODduiaQSFBnmgGJy9VsG380Ic8CEAcvThFSEwq4=; b=hgzu0+yRKfpgRs8MySWn/wVs4W00iXzVeFWwcOkVLGr6d8m+CJvwWBZtHTKEiechWo bLr/xNAXn4LCctBeI8ptfSuPfA59f5Ot2QmkaEg12dKeC+AiGovHBDH5quM+MwFxMIoI Q9MvaRtXxfMNvOOmMSLY03qVwpgQ3bLV/tcEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O9ud6gp+uRcKsKofVZOUtHIZIXlpDYyZ/Z4u2/3wPXRVFdRdb8KEif3coc2WameVZX e4XtCNyXzQNCoFRITGaNsTFyi/vS/UvRDwjdvlSMSgiBfp6PjPr1v5SFaEABRSSRY50v m0iJN0scauK56/5nM/jsz5W7NdkSU+IhLwDfQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e70000dc82883049f4bb910 Resent-Message-ID: <9SG0B.A.brF.IjGjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:04:56 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e70000dc82883049f4bb910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/3/25 Loopers Delight loopers-delight@reyn.net > > > ** Electric Looping. I really like this one because it's all electronic. > I'm really beginning dislike these laptop acts with just prefabbed material > turning knobs I don't really hear. In this case there is only a song and > just a loop at the beginning and the rest is improvisation. Which is pretty > much the concept of Reyn vs ..., but I never done it totally electronic. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8tIOR6ACA > > Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck? -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --e0cb4e70000dc82883049f4bb910 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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** Electric Looping. I r= eally like this one because it's all electronic. I'm really beginni= ng dislike these laptop acts with just prefabbed material turning knobs I d= on't really hear. In this case there is only a song and just a loop at = the beginning and the rest is improvisation. Which is pretty much the conce= pt of Reyn vs ..., but I never done it totally electronic.
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIx8tIOR6ACA

Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck?


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--e0cb4e70000dc82883049f4bb910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 10:15:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8321834A1; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CTQ/+VEj5caKzVnchxBvNFN3pOvRmhPVX90snJxJiyM=; b=M9YuBK0HNHtWEl7yx0Hj9hs6hHow/p3ZldelxpQLlZ+632M+FeLdnrTI9ryVcZ38fq b8KzZK9oq33g1G/wZzK94NQen0QQQGbL0u69+3VvB9MvLblODM/eqwyYN8yRPVdACfUg uiuE+vdjn5yH4fDEmXXFOlq7FZUEbqMsivSwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Y9xtVw1TnnaCswDvIhWbLLjAuVvH4kjfdNo29OUwRF0CDHQT3voBH/oHOa6/6dEGEF EZGo2FVGTh1UhwH/TaFGYru6y42DIDSQk55lur1iH5EREZQafJbLOEVltTkJLkYBBVfQ hB0bamGP5jSKCP8A9PoPjpmxkRP45EBZ+76os= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:15:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd306b8493300049f4bdfbd Resent-Message-ID: <1rL4z.A.-6F.9sGjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:15:25 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd306b8493300049f4bdfbd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Johannes wrote - Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck? whoever he is, he's got a great voice! must be a lot of work setting up for these gigs and then editing the video afterwards --000e0cd306b8493300049f4bdfbd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Johannes wrote - Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck?

whoever he is, he's got a great voice!

must be a lot of work setting up for these gigs and then editing the video afterwards
--000e0cd306b8493300049f4bdfbd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 10:31:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024271834A7; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=elVDs/iNqz9XUZgPWLThTxfVgspFeOvZO/d9RZXhB0I=; b=k9VcB6jzh/Mb3DdBibdxteb8pZjJ9cme86u+QAtJG6uS25zFzCzuYPMRHpfFQdykIS y8S018Vb8p/JbpSUI/LTOu5whC18aYttm9YHw+DqrJYUknk2lw3hmmiFcHC3MLeHOMOC i7fac4GmMIVIKPXHeDhZJXTf3Py801FgrGot8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cv+FJnaKyHki0xUtWZo6ZNPh46ri21EDTJSo9vonoz6bWCl9yBpyPw+P8RgbAccPjn K85S4lffae/M6a7hp8RbS6XyTHskCPw5ducMxnheIE+4fh/kQ88F1p0tM4y5uxqBVVws OUCdmRFc5Rdfqqc9s8fU+v2MgvBqeXvxTT7Sg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:31:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:31:16 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > yes man! great that you are mentioning the Vestax VCM-600 midi > controller gotta check it out,ive been debating which controller to > use for Ableton > right now im just using the cheap nano kontrol for basic stuff > what made you choose this over the akai or novation pads anyway? Plus 1) Physical layout and build quality: it feels like a quality analog mixer and that's how I prefer to work 2) Visual feedback of mute, solo buttons etc. It's bi-directional. So if you change a parameter in Ableton triggered by an external midi controller like an FCB, the status of the LED on the VCM-600 will be updated 3) It's flexible: Ableton comes with a default mapping for the Vestax, but you can overrule that per button or fader if you want to adn create your own mapping. Also: it will work with just any host, not just ableton. 4) USB powered Minus 1) Size and weight 2) Price, it's 625,- EUR at Thomann. I bought mine second hand though Regarding the Akai (398 EUR) , that's a good controller too in terms of build quality, the physical layout is less logical compared to the Vestax and is smaller. The Novation Launchpad (158 EUR) is a sexy beast but that's more oriented to clip functionality which I don't use a lot yet, at least not live. But I'm thinking of building some interesting midi automation clips and use these the same way as I used Mobius scripts, and for triggering the clip, the Novation is the max I think. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 10:56:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C13261834AB; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2F7NDKrdDum5ZM3H0jMtwIR63JhJj3BbQVjteMyGF34=; b=Y6LCtP+5m5Nt+Yma6woiA2vd+pQwH5g/DzNTbEOCRgcs0IZMnxrveuxByQM8FRlVNr NZyTmGoSw4r7VxXVfl+VHdOyJUyOOBSBhK6YNES5TptuKWhX/KfrGTbuUCPfU1eewtMI nvGlNQh4Y8cgMXYK4DurVi2btB3ZQnVXCLs9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FyGpM6P96lJCDBbcMPZL4WEV6FEAj9IqBWAQrSWEx/PBPUH518moEf1Wx/RK9Tuyc2 msDn6A9u3fIqKYqxTY0Pc/f2wlpv14RXY0NekU/Cguo87tDvDzrvuOwNLV5U2Qohh29T lOp8+xZoMc56vTOvQP9nSt+xo6RD/ZuZDftOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:56:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:56:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > why does a > hardware drum machine(like the adrenalinn for ex.) sync perfectly when > Mobius or the EDP are masters then? are laptops not designed to do > this? No. Laptops are designed to run Power Point presentations, checking email and chatting on the fly and writing text in a word processor. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 11:07:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3625918349F; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8C7750.2020003@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 04:06:56 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: LP2 Foot controller for a dream looper References: <4D8C45B1.5020006@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D8C45B1.5020006@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:07:05 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > so...what does it do? Oh, I thought I had already explained that but here goes. While you are playing your current loop, one can with a couple of foot pedal presses, call up a previous loop that you have stored on an SD card. When you press the play/stop button, the new loop you've called up begins playing immediately as the loop you were just playing stops immediately. When you press play/stop and then press record/overdub you begin recording a new loop but your last loop was stored automatically into a song location and can be recalled in this manner. I can't remember off hand what loop number it would be stored at (because Chris is asleep right now and I dasn't wake her up) but I can tell you tomorrow. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 11:07:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0A1818349F; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Lm2I7QCHuDLINzWivL8Swy1pFYZXvp6q9me4YiCD1Lo=; b=SFamI4LUu5no3yFYlj81PJbp8sKCXVZqm3sBGTI1BnJPDzuPjWmeYikWN81EVTJmtB aVXA+scs/s2JUhq3/8mvIj0viBPzFuwQwwH8qRcfuu1SxXEovmz9Z5p3zeHUgPkib2qB SOf51TGnw2JaGtmQc/xmXDKlUz/NSUIFZhC68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gGpdSihNV4+FGKFxBHonO6VqdXKtTHe8Krib4BfnaPi0cIfVoisAfkvgpoy7UPia/J +vsFEy3yDf8GwHV+L/dduWMvol9O3KPadE9j8rfL6rgUqkxdxVMg7aaYrFwRLU/7ooe/ Er/NGiLPOYhla/XpBpF0JgOtr2SF6kvCj+Ukc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:06:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:07:52 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > No. Laptops are designed to run Power Point presentations, checking > email and chatting on the fly and writing text in a word processor. Looking forward to your performance in Cologne next week Per! ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 11:11:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09F6D1834A0; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8C7871.8050002@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 04:11:45 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:11:53 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Loopers Delight wrote: > ** Can you believe this? This guy is 19 years old.. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7aApNxXAs > This is really beautiful, Reyn. I'd love to play with you some day. I hope we can make it happen. beautiful, just beautiful. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 12:43:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2917C183447; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=1MS6pfFTjsrVOyxfLKm1mZG1MfaH+RXNkXFviW6f2rQ=; b=nR8+Md4KGXGZ/duC/q92quQ3tIzbp2anXsbzvdvCw1bFau6Y3S5OT5P5TJOQemDwYV qGK3fKiNH9oxhED2Ph/hk5iMzYolNsFZBYvoOrMc6N4gXy/j+nWWtolFMSAk4AJkMht+ ZSe9WMmjw0k1MMZmAEZA0D4wx5LPNBBW00vvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=PstT28rvY1+G5fXsHG8WptAwg/tR3SZ+WT7pfhlMMAFEdcejnhHkFfIAWOCDFGxvyZ PCzi6SO935A0eMk2XT8TqzB9VC3IH1f1uugUBoUS9irM9/NH7LRfygkFkAdgCUewI1DW MjNiQplaM/fMPRU9x5jiHTP1cTHvSeSwWiFYY= References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:42:08 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Andy wrote: > Large companies have the budget to do extensive > testing on their products, ...like Microsoft ? -f From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 13:11:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11B14183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=qx/lOPfTAB/3lIG+XP9S/zBqzSgE8R832wEe1UNXXbN9geY9OGuh3wMDrRiCdGyj; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:11:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792ae785d03573f64e57dcd2a2264d18e6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:11:23 +0000 (UTC) ....or even Apple? >Andy wrote: >> Large companies have the budget to do extensive >> testing on their products, > > >...like Microsoft ? > >-f -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 13:20:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A88183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 598074889/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.245/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.245 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiICAGuVjE1YbR71/2dsb2JhbAAMmEnRcYVpBJA9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,242,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="598074889" Message-ID: <4D8C9683.8090105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:20:03 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:20:03 +0000 (UTC) they test the look of it don't they Chuck Zwicky wrote: > ....or even Apple? > >> Andy wrote: >>> Large companies have the budget to do extensive >>> testing on their products, >> >> >> ...like Microsoft ? >> >> -f > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 13:36:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78E99183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 598019485/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.245/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.245 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiICAOyZjE1YbR71/2dsb2JhbAAMmErRbYVpBJA9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,242,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="598019485" Message-ID: <4D8C9A60.8010908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:36:32 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 References: <4D8C45B1.5020006@tiscali.co.uk> <4D8C7750.2020003@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D8C7750.2020003@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:36:31 +0000 (UTC) LP2 Right, that's sounds pretty good. So starting from scratch. (and simplifying to two loops) You record loop one. Then you have to stop loop one before recording loop 2. After that, you can go seemlessly between the available loops, but it takes 2 or more presses to make the change, having to scroll through 8 loops to find the one you want. So really, this is a canned loop feature that a dedicated live looper can access with a bit of thought and practice. A nice extra. andy Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> so...what does it do? > Oh, I thought I had already explained that but here goes. > > While you are playing your current loop, one can with a couple of foot > pedal > presses, call up a previous loop that you have stored on an SD card. > > When you press the play/stop button, the new loop you've called up > begins playing immediately as the loop you were just playing stops > immediately. > > When you press play/stop and then press record/overdub you begin > recording a new loop > but your last loop was stored automatically into a song location and can > be recalled > in this manner. I can't remember off hand > what loop number it would be stored at (because Chris is asleep right > now and I dasn't wake her up) > but I can tell you tomorrow. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 13:51:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4B861833E9; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ab76q8qbcJNG7pcMtZSzHE2fACtFJiDj+gzONgdRdwk=; b=CdVty9ZDyoSByOVgxiOvpOuT0pgtYa+lJou/eknwSQe1MvkS3uRlhYbaNO5QScgH1b F5P658tMFTqrk3GWsqwH6AwzA6V5VVMfG7n5KuTQtorJWm80uOu1jSPhTJ64wikuO6dJ EBey3DcTRHeq1X6t00rcjI1WvSdBgJi3X/NDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VKYqoi1twStHIqOWAxiC8nt7P8c2H94d6UXb+ih07WmdG2Yuju1myplliTlXQ+8kuK xtMwoPSV1TD/OhBddtoERqvoOowdqXpxjayck6Fa+OWhgtQ48FkgC0ql/RPFarqfDmsV Kgv1FnBBd1nFfOPS4IKXElhWwzdUXPfIDGids= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:51:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Must send a ROFLMAO to that! :-) Per On Friday, March 25, 2011, Fabio_A wrote: > Andy wrote: >> Large companies have the budget to do extensive >> testing on their products, > > > ...like Microsoft ? > > -f > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 14:22:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1506183449; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lxAtLCxDyMzvNdZtyNZ1x52LUtgsa6vfjcxBs7F+8EI= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=uBssf7DnAAAA:8 a=9c3zujPLtun8N7SXut4A:9 a=sz_5pBcuyVxwpcOypHV4Y-SlqysA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:22:35 -0700 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Nice stuff Reyn. Good to hear from you. On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:49 AM, Loopers Delight wrote: > Hi guys (and grrrrls), > > Since I'm writing here, I'll give you an update on my latest loops.. > I've been away from the list for 2 months because I had a big HD > failure on my Mac.. > > Some video's you might like: > > ** Old school (but hectic also due to the form of the song and > changing instruments) looping with a small setup. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuqZAqxcwjg > > ** Electric Looping. I really like this one because it's all > electronic. I'm really beginning dislike these laptop acts with just > prefabbed material turning knobs I don't really hear. In this case > there is only a song and just a loop at the beginning and the rest > is improvisation. Which is pretty much the concept of Reyn vs ..., > but I never done it totally electronic. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8tIOR6ACA > > ** Can you believe this? This guy is 19 years old.. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7aApNxXAs > > ** Did I ever show you guys this one? I like the buildup at the end. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFrizmXlJPA > > More to see at www.reyn.vs.reyn.net. > > Also I'm moving studio's this week. Going from my old on to the new > one. Here are some construction pictures of the new studio:www.studio.reyn.net > .. I'll update the pics soon again. > > Take care, > > Cheers, > > Reyn. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:05:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DE7A183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uPTGCybqvWzUuet4m9ChVBrYol8eSs1FTDkGTzXeZck=; b=XxSonIrDw3JeaoCTzXfk5MKwIWaFcE0dKtalNWQm8PBcQoLFY1jNs8HbV9egg+RmZF /Xr4cILaND1rGDLKp8l+aXoK9b3UZt+GWYYvMnG5NhMzNns76nGnOzImRgn1KYY97PMb Ct1Kie3CGibyABiUeAOg4i331QyQ6tEgfG3pI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=V3zaJB3Gins7Nt/wtE6Tqp3/xQtZLBX86iIa/3wv8ynd7/mmvXkn2wttdDUGnoBxhj jsEzez5Ntax5iZrU87yDDxd5xxaMGt6Z+TbJWrntkTS1hehX5foSKOjjW/0Idk+qom7i 8FFxYdZYtAXf9uGxAj4FVsWzLBQOq30GREDdU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:05:25 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd722127c5525049f4fec56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:05:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd722127c5525049f4fec56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reyn - can i ask what software you used to make the videos? i may have some multiple camera angles to compile soon and im not sure if i ca do with the software i have many thanks sim --000e0cd722127c5525049f4fec56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reyn - can i ask what software you used to make the videos? i may have some multiple camera angles to compile soon and im not sure if i ca do with the software i have

many thanks

sim
--000e0cd722127c5525049f4fec56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:12:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC378183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 632980.78109.bm@omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301065936; bh=qgwZ+T8wB2E6tTZMezl2yVIe4qDBGvG+3+GIN2NAWB0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HSTgxTwAlvHxtv21VxytV4dkvDJvMc9KtFo48feLUjmqF5zprmb8XoFHMdIJ5wEQaZ9lpqlb6OzM8ULjaNV+z80ErY357V0+MjG+clFAJP0nI0HEMwvSb+WOQMAcCa9Mcz1MB1t8bMGKBg0wfuaG6Faws8oPFMm6gDWCLRAah7Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZcuXclpM5+zXKuWXdENil9MtJIZhLii3LLhGr5SNtC04VIfb0+TbWcv9mUVoCcZEsA7Kh7QE0QeN+SZbCc3f4UFXNvj86mOMwYq8001eCUi06mFBq5xjdd2JksxGB7bc9XM1df5TC0ISw81Cp2XLnHkzNGaaFizPBM+naJvWKnQ=; Message-ID: <538830.3303.qm@web120717.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GliKDKkVM1nI5FL1b1npBzLXBxAQhnU0y52BOM4HYJ7X4Dp 7k5lsaUVuuG3idVI0vosOO29MiymzwqjZaQp56PasBPdXeZCIfwFCB1YwNIl jEnjgUqvHwd1fi.CV3pBX8UOUKUXvtstuAmDZO7j2h3v_lxOs_bPMlnWPLtV NGyj861VFhg5imWqm9JrbcZi9Q21qpKQXbQtjruGr0CGLzTZMaifJ33r128J RN9hPSfymbWcf_gHW7sLn4jFIa85fMFaOYGm9fg9lrDp3r6I5uEVivTd2wwp .giYKA4hcXPNUQOSvcW0QWkWr5OHEs1ZV24tNd6i3G4Ao5rfMYjjUMqhNlz9 6GzF1LMO6OLDbGk5LMspAoEnU2R1J4B1DLKeYi3EqBAJif4f4t.vMXPO9pBq Q X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-794775306-1301065936=:3303" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:12:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-794775306-1301065936=:3303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey, does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:05:25 PM Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... Reyn - can i ask what software you used to make the videos? i may have some multiple camera angles to compile soon and im not sure if i ca do with the software i have many thanks sim --0-794775306-1301065936=:3303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?

Antony Hequet

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:05:25 PM
Subject: Re: Reyn vs ...

Reyn - can i ask what software you used to make the videos? i may have some multiple camera angles to compile soon and im not sure if i ca do with the software i have

many thanks

sim

--0-794775306-1301065936=:3303-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:14:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DE91183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301066049; bh=L2VqJNpINIPpAG1nDvKK+2seXJuOCdc5i5GGFUnY5Pg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A1iawsmBAtkgAaDnZR1eCu55yrraRFN4KH6+AFbfcEa20tmAcAEC2Q2prdoioVwXsFeBcJeVYjngVJzlKa841C3t55oeeuOBykSVRF/RSLOF8/NwNfx+ExH7pITeTJukfpf2b1BE4Sg0lHDil5xrZQCjpoq2zrD1Xfv8IM/7boM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=13Om0xhG8x/cJL75DfVRtHkljOG1RD7KRG5p/kburtzS9taGLsxEItmpZliccCa3ZoAaOC0seEfLpAVwnQmVilFMXHRso0+/HAvC4m6akoOF1qGhl4JVH0tdkT2Sa2VdsUYtZ/PGLp5Wh2+b9jSHfNvMyHG84LnqtRjgFer1eBU=; Message-ID: <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PuMjZvMVM1mtoDbibOF_7MsfuHRxRBlQhPP54dZUSKPSD7A Iwz5G0JTq.Fpig6_8nngQ_hSHkqvO3S1oCJISwGMSMTu3AnXR7EgcsZSRjUE XoUXauYq5fqGwfxqPsJuZIx3HWZg2hIDNQzHzN_uigHYjsFrzBxQ1KDGewCW NduaGxNFrL2SbUpeDpyUWBlrtPzE23dmySEZRUii_o1e22CfZ7GOtRWUQMK3 mHvvKFEse7hcd1qOCKTsEWkvHvsQI0.HGcCmpt0CoeAqnrttJGqQEaCzKl0v DHndeLTTp.p7piAtiwXbWz3VwRq96Vt9S4prc7_fUR0dbu8DIj1j5Y2LDPZl _UX2Mpz.PkYtlSt.WHTeU8gCGFgN5v5C3q7.Jx3osW30MGM3mCBPuQQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: OT video software for live input To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1138391378-1301066049=:56806" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:14:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-1138391378-1301066049=:56806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey, does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting it on a screen all at the same time:-) April 2nd by the way:-) Antony Hequet --0-1138391378-1301066049=:56806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?

I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting it on a screen all at the same time:-)

April 2nd by the way:-)

Antony Hequet

--0-1138391378-1301066049=:56806-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:24:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D970E183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NQPsIwI+iuUJZ5o9TchN3i14yQet8ZAwlOvaD/kDHi0=; b=XUUt4ZODSoNo1JLDwAJElk4TQKSnhuuRR9tNjr4Oic2YWLcyzVXRc8ppvr38EN1I4k 4P2m9iYg4kVQ1WFUIn9R7qmMGC+akzDXLfFyrfCk2WBG5RWtB+AP3RwJpqEiLSeOFS7h aEEXCAUNdM/XrguueEfc1IfegB0WJj98ZS9BY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=TAg1ayJ1AvHm89b+0vfgVVmdNDaaxaP5VTrEmxBLDewjhFvRqg4kJyM9pD2yHv8a9p Jt25vpCpE63Mdz35Kxk28k273ZIdqmdCxELrcKrPtMw30sA9r7fiUdFO8593yWPYUZFj ghZTLE6vWM0/s/xP3S7lEd6UBbzHwy7E9H6C4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:24:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Iz6luPo_ZcC9KTVGMqw5tG9e3Gw Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT video software for live input To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:24:54 +0000 (UTC) I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it with multiple computers... If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? But running music software as well?? You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery walk is honored but burnt... M On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: > hey, > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting it > on a screen all at the same time:-) > April 2nd by the way:-) > Antony Hequet > -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92353183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=LcM1m4rhOGAGK5r5Qss1Wz2x3DVn3kHEYzaSsFUzozU=; b=egJXzYC8P2B191CaF8Je2feyWXVNEGd2mRPWZ1Cg1dIN3D23aVTr4Y0j+MF5czvgau pHFvznhjqo+vP/1PQ6qqpJOtyCtwf6IzxpJp75Dretlcg4aBXRRgIm1GenAPn0H1CqaU OFgbv7oTKzMfHXJ3vZ1w2qZoHWpV1/dQNV3tM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=bsjnj1sfzrAzC+s9Ms9ZRRHg+/6UFb/H2nwlTRVbNE66GJ31w4h9r9Bn0Jh3PZslTS YCD0XaruODMilnHbAj+8NRhjNDdi64OO3Ku1r4rRRr9mFLgzzXBSqveNa0vio2toNY77 iVRmzhBlLnj/bbNz2WJ2IQ3zLg3nJca5hk18A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:31:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 91d84Bcq1YiJM7UnvWGeOgGe-O0 Message-ID: Subject: Codanova Midi Surface WAS ... OT video software for live input To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) While looking for software for Antony, I found this... Am I mistaken or does this look very very cool? Meant for VJs of course.. but.... its midi! http://www.codanova.com/article-new-prototype-midi-controller-codanova-vmx-v64-50855556.html Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:37:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACD0B183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301067458; bh=CJynuCmpAekuzlsDXoBpwpHdRAbxJKaGIn+TOKVx+1A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h2yBD2zbfPwt9vd1ycTtauf2CBfaj+dueTQachT/DWRvF0bYdnH7F+fxNTabrLRRJfjlZStov23w33/00t9skOu1Qy30IRAt5oYnTcZ11eRzFaSI53UlxhL1CUhiz6JS74XxDZ4aLG9m0alxY4pel/kLKfPUwLRc0oBYivyLXo0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cgfSNCKKMg0v71endndFNTf0KLrx9r1FL0GybXZomhNuLxBtL+uFs+rm/+aHM9LT4bAIORfv9Ha3UJzqTQBb48IGTASrvWI1QhcNSOx61COMvS2bBTKdobM9ILryhnGBl2EnT4tSNSOKHDILnXy7KFBMBvIyW8sT2a8C/ECxaCo=; Message-ID: <878285.66698.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mQLCVLIVM1lFzdXUdtENWHgzUltaDKXUAoLOIPlPsUK0u8P .4qDRc6xYsUYg8_2Zd2pMX.RHo6qLsxgP3s24YBcA15xwjpW.nhizx2kvWQy ZCpmOVNlDITvRKxZd0ho5Jbpe4dXyaskfwWFrfXDZKaOvqxp5DBU.0AvRbcf kstM4uT.niz8nKTmv.rqXOZb08tIui0Y.z5U6h13rCjSAPMH8rFTquQfBNbC 64a3yIIT3iDh96IGHssVtP8pVYYrnyhza8o8dJrCJurWj6aXgqdzXcrjsVgp x1aGT0.FuIOfWtii2460qL9Sy9l_P66SyMyyWwTRFQsFJjeBxF6AhQZL2OB0 54GdD0i.3SbuqA2LqqpyAjuHTd5mwuqEyB..yZXjnNwBGrvuNOITwCw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:37:38 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT video software for live input To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-267600181-1301067458=:66698" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:37:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-267600181-1301067458=:66698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am burnt,=0A=0Ain fact just running video on one computer and sending to = internet and video =0Aprojector. But only have one firewire 800 port: aaarg= ghhh, and (@=E7=E9)'=E7&=E9'&=E9=0A=0AAntony @&###=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________= ___________________=0AFrom: mark francombe =0ATo: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:24:33 PM= =0ASubject: Re: OT video software for live input=0A=0AI think Jeff is Duke = is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it=0Awith multiple computers...= =0A=0AIf you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that= =0Ayou dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example= =0AI have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at=0Ath= e same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?=0A=0ABut running music software a= s well??=0AYou talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fie= ry=0Awalk is honored but burnt...=0A=0AM=0A=0AOn Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 = PM, wrote:=0A> hey,=0A> does anyone know how what= video software to use in order to do a live=0A> internet show using severa= l live cameras plus video content coming from the=0A> computer. Cameras wou= ld be firewire; how do you agregate the various=0A> firewire inputs to one = firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?=0A> I would be sending the = edited content live on the internet and projecting it=0A> on a screen all a= t the same time:-)=0A> April 2nd by the way:-)=0A> Antony Hequet=0A>=0A=0A= =0A=0A-- =0AMark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Ah= ttp://vimeo.com/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no=0Atwitter @markfrancombe= =0A=0A=0A --0-267600181-1301067458=:66698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am burnt,

in fact just running video o= n one computer and sending to internet and video projector. But only have o= ne firewire 800 port: aaargghhh, and (@=E7=E9)'=E7&=E9'&=E9

Antony @&###

From: mark franco= mbe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: OT video software f= or live input

I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE= is doing it
with multiple computers...

If you have more than one= firewire socket (i think you infered that
you dont) you should be able = to connect multiple cameras.. For example
I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I c= an use both sockets and the webcam at
the same time... mnaybe you can fi= nd a hub?

But running music software as well??
You talk the talk = of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
walk is honored but bur= nt...

M

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM,  <a= ntonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hey,
> does anyone know = how what video software to use in order to do a live
> internet show = using several live cameras plus video content coming from the
> compu= ter. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various
> firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?
= > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and project= ing it
> on a screen all at the same time:-)
> April 2nd by the= way:-)
> Antony Hequet
>



--
Mark Francombe<= br>www.mar= kfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitt= er @markfrancombe

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=0A=0A --0-267600181-1301067458=:66698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:44:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35453183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gbY1XID6w1DlqsOJF9ghB7ndL9M34wBI5IpDU4cwT9I=; b=DF7tAU725HTcBLWjCMsgyu2OtV3VewjcHQgDzo9wxVP+7fo3fgdw14RMVkdl4N6mje Er0vlG6HN5xo9j0FWx03VFpWi3p8XxOfBMIJdVv9QFJtNwUK2/TSNutzLsDWrFPWxZPq BC/Z0Q88L8rEd06HmauUFNssIdN5FW+qn0MSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rCkWEWipXwsmNfh4PdxgTtCWvg1cGG9LcQAcBmuTP0+3NY+fw3kzzjFg35TtuV8fW+ vTderkw23QIAFOBasSEPjKUT43sXnh+MeOAdGIn6780638YADbtbL7+aE9AKZtW1WXXI PUmEMKehRFehgwGujeHOvuyLh0jwxE+RVTv74= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:44:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT video software for live input From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f92672f0a62049f5078ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:44:30 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f92672f0a62049f5078ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was about to post on this when I read Mac and stopped. I use Xsplit http://www.xsplit.com/ only in the "virtual camera" mode and not as a broadcaster although it will do that. It is Windozz only though. It is also in beta still. It will handle any number of cams/mixed media at once. I also use Manycam which does have a Mac version but it does not do multiple cameras, etc like Xsplit does. http://download.manycam.com/?os=mac it will do screen capture and movies etc but only one at a time. So I have 3 cams and Manycam running in Xplit, you can also drop in movies or other media and then I send that to the Flash Media Encoder for broadcast. Then there is Elektronica http://aestesis.eu/ which a friend is trying to get me to use but I have been unwilling to learn it so far (oww my brain) Windows only, he does amazing things with it! Good luck! j On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it > with multiple computers... > > If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that > you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example > I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at > the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? > > But running music software as well?? > You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery > walk is honored but burnt... > > M > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: > > hey, > > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live > > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from > the > > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? > > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting > it > > on a screen all at the same time:-) > > April 2nd by the way:-) > > Antony Hequet > > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --bcaec53f92672f0a62049f5078ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was about to post on this when I read Mac and stopped.

I use Xspl= it http://www.xsplit.com/ only in th= e "virtual camera" mode and not as a broadcaster although it will= do that. It is Windozz only though. It is also in beta still. It will hand= le any number of cams/mixed media at once.

I also use Manycam which does have a Mac version but it does not do mul= tiple cameras, etc like Xsplit does. http://download.manycam.com/?os=3Dmac it will do screen cap= ture and movies etc but only one at a time.

So I have 3 cams and Manycam running in Xplit, you can also drop in mov= ies or other media and then I send that to the Flash Media Encoder for broa= dcast.

Then there is Elektronica htt= p://aestesis.eu/ which a friend is trying to get me to use but I have b= een unwilling to learn it so far (oww my brain) Windows only, he does amazi= ng things with it!

Good luck!

j

On Fri, Mar 25, 2= 011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it
with multiple computers...

If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that
you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example
I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at
the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?

But running music software as well??
You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
walk is honored but burnt...

M

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, =A0<antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hey,
> does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live<= br> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming fro= m the
> computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?=
> I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and project= ing it
> on a screen all at the same time:-)
> April 2nd by the way:-)
> Antony Hequet
>



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe

--bcaec53f92672f0a62049f5078ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:46:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52861183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=zByTqtxJbpgKQ7ivGzhg6MEytHRXVdPIpaYG5/GpO6/nau/AKpuTzuUGUns3s/S+JoIDMBIIqXyqOUJKtAjKjON0kRP+xVkj4guogeifzYXgHjTfiYorhLI6J9D9bG8CrLQkXzc0gGMV2imHqQtqNVxM3tNIDz9Uc9kJLhUGA/c= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301067995; bh=le+ksTImE4JEraR3XwDn1wsP72TGxBZLYEUO7IOA1Ok=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=UedGP6jXDIrgf4vJC3hFhmZEhrGrHzz36zQbwnXcizhunYMD+siJ9/ZYcjcIP15AmSCtO0ui0BvaYSYms1EJUgIAZypRynUjDyKtbm3HijKoFmlDrqupeBFSBNR8uKTlmiQo9Ts9dX5zzkYyo4GSp9XKE5vkAno3nHMc5vEqoAE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: 5W47cEYVM1nt_hwM89CjYgUClHaBOtzMSyUnjo5Kse8dMNF M61dbnQ8iygiWRSfERUqIQ7EmPjiKdP1bhEVsY3J2RCHuF0SMFh44qwxS.42 V8fZs5VS3L0jCB1hPIJ.cp6hbMCj4ty4GPnaKUi9Twdk5VDmdjKwHOjnkjo5 16aBJTz7nbDXKaaDS0WSPACCPeqvD7F.Ygn70hLwonXoJHMSKmsQKEfl9S0H wwrwcrczUamsc3xlFVyLocCcNxbuueAiNAoRST76r.epJ20B5830NI4FTj4S zAQ4ExG6bY2Yt.PXfhha3viIWc_6Op5qNVFcP4_6Zh_oCt7AhnE7k5Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-638237000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <338895B7-51A4-4BFD-B787-89607DC6CDDF@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8812650_ANVSimIAAC1zTYy4agUk9RNSphg Subject: Re: OT video software for live input Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:46:22 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:46:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-638237000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks! Owwwy Black hole eeuuuh brain damage! A Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-25, at 16:44, Jeff Duke wrote: > I was about to post on this when I read Mac and stopped.=20 >=20 > I use Xsplit http://www.xsplit.com/ only in the "virtual camera" mode and n= ot as a broadcaster although it will do that. It is Windozz only though. It i= s also in beta still. It will handle any number of cams/mixed media at once.= >=20 > I also use Manycam which does have a Mac version but it does not do multip= le cameras, etc like Xsplit does. http://download.manycam.com/?os=3Dmac it w= ill do screen capture and movies etc but only one at a time. >=20 > So I have 3 cams and Manycam running in Xplit, you can also drop in movies= or other media and then I send that to the Flash Media Encoder for broadcas= t. >=20 > Then there is Elektronica http://aestesis.eu/ which a friend is trying to g= et me to use but I have been unwilling to learn it so far (oww my brain) Win= dows only, he does amazing things with it! >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > j >=20 > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it > with multiple computers... >=20 > If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that > you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example > I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at > the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? >=20 > But running music software as well?? > You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery > walk is honored but burnt... >=20 > M >=20 > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: > > hey, > > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live > > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from t= he > > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? > > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projectin= g it > > on a screen all at the same time:-) > > April 2nd by the way:-) > > Antony Hequet > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-638237000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thanks!
Owwwy Black hole eeuuuh brain damage!
A

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-03-25, at 16:44, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

I was about to post on this when I read Mac and stopped.

I use Xsplit http://www.xsplit.com/ only in the "virtual camera" mode and not as a broadcaster although it will do that. It is Windozz only though. It is also in beta still. It will handle any number of cams/mixed media at once.

I also use Manycam which does have a Mac version but it does not do multiple cameras, etc like Xsplit does. http://download.manycam.com/?os=mac it will do screen capture and movies etc but only one at a time.

So I have 3 cams and Manycam running in Xplit, you can also drop in movies or other media and then I send that to the Flash Media Encoder for broadcast.

Then there is Elektronica http://aestesis.eu/ which a friend is trying to get me to use but I have been unwilling to learn it so far (oww my brain) Windows only, he does amazing things with it!

Good luck!

j

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it
with multiple computers...

If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that
you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example
I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at
the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?

But running music software as well??
You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
walk is honored but burnt...

M

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hey,
> does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live
> internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from the
> computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various
> firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?
> I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting it
> on a screen all at the same time:-)
> April 2nd by the way:-)
> Antony Hequet
>



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe

--Apple-Mail-2-638237000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:53:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BFBF18349D; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2snb368PXQ+GCeegdEseUI1vmk6dZ/Xuvk8/M9ax+kM=; b=G15DJU0K/0PLTHKhrFKRXM+NZiATxTSRXV2EZrlXFWDq0NVQO/0mGpJ3qcu5/wRsEz tFbT1xdTbYiWvEitEsmF1zydYnMkM05QR84Rg8YnPsld53oA8ZM8+I5S11jDFwGLFgLD 5jjzVMb4jVlMJUAUa+cAc2KIiYm3yjwAv2Oxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MI/Qcoo0CLqx68xbaaucX2DZ/ujRl18nMbeAgegncsQAaVOUwBz4WBIeCyLRSqceDK Ym54leL/A8AMmN6WSo4ecjGl+i5sTyJLMupb21oQxnEABHz9EV5n+QOZBPg/4NfzwAMH JIgo4hnwpiptyEXgDn8vsa48ljvbNqPyxwkBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:52:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT video software for live input From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f328659cb73049f5096e8 Resent-Message-ID: <3Ux59.A.JKG.kpLjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:53:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f328659cb73049f5096e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send the audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for that :) j On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it > with multiple computers... > > If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that > you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example > I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at > the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? > > But running music software as well?? > You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery > walk is honored but burnt... > > M > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: > > hey, > > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live > > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from > the > > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? > > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and projecting > it > > on a screen all at the same time:-) > > April 2nd by the way:-) > > Antony Hequet > > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --20cf307f328659cb73049f5096e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send th= e audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am= not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for= that :)

j

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, m= ark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it
with multiple computers...

If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that
you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example
I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at
the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?

But running music software as well??
You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
walk is honored but burnt...

M

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, =A0<antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hey,
> does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live<= br> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming fro= m the
> computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?=
> I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and project= ing it
> on a screen all at the same time:-)
> April 2nd by the way:-)
> Antony Hequet
>



--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe

--20cf307f328659cb73049f5096e8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 15:58:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F7601834B0; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3725 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:58:14 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:56:07 +0000 Subject: Looper that spits out separate click track From: Billy Thompson To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Looper that spits out separate click track Thread-Index: Acvq/MUfA41f5lbwEeCsuAAjMqBtJA== In-Reply-To: <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailcore-Auth: 9862611 X-Mailcore-Domain: 27454 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone... I was wondering whether some of you could suggest a looper to me with which I could send out a separate rhythm track to a drummer for instance. I currently use the Digitech JamMan which is fairly good for my needs (even though they brought the stereo version out not long after my purchase). This has a built in rhythm track with 8 or so basic click sounds. The loop you then create locks nicely to this if this is the function you choose. If I could have this click in my ear and not playing out front then a perfectly in time loop would sound much more natural. Further to this what I would really like as mentioned in the first paragraph would be for the click track to be constantly in a drummer's ear so the drummer and I could create in sync. Suggestions please if I've been clear enough... I'm basically still after a foot pedal but all suggestions welcomed... Many thanks, Billy http://www.billythompson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:16:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E37D18349C; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gI6bVQnSyJmj/zX/tpgtpr0GSKARr0F+IFg0is7zO3M=; b=DoEl1z1ejP601J4rBdFQI0MG3i7LBNx20EjAPGgamRg1m2H60yMII5KFplQx4B51oe FQ8Fj4seJ9IOZpcNk6iNkIHYtv+NAGigZudwKUP5tukVyhdwOI4aMlmGz0ArqwEtI2Ic dhK9IvHDcD6JgDke+r0ae/vS30uShJ/UYi3CA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SAxGP88DdKID9HaVx7Gx5oKX90srxS8U7fT5GmClf8FKOldmsP/Q89zx/jkSqyYOpU tZOTBK3s3huaqA24ltL5dImCgeiThX6nm7bioYZKt31ysc3VaWt74hdOn5dkOlJAm/q+ sdWFm0rYj8n94Xy+8g/k9cRT/YHlWRjX0Q9Iw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:16:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Yes Reyn,this also happened with that same button and i remeber n the softstep yahoo groups someone else mentioned it. Back then i was not able to use it as a stand alone,it was dependent on the software and it kept crashing on me and not saving my presets,i had to reboot the computer so many times,the update back then i think 1.31 was even worse.But that might have changed now,are u using it as stand alone? I like everything else though,the lights,the size and all of the midi comands you can send.Aside of the back row not being a bit higher to trigger those buttons, which i could live with, i also found it a bit tricky when scrolling to banks. All in all i didnt feel comfortable enough for me to take on the road which is why i initially bought it for. Though i think once all the bugs are ironed out,i think ill look for another one in ebay sometime.The size is whats still mostly atractive for me!! Luis > Only thing is that the first trigger keeps going into a Note On mode afte= r I reset all the loopers (in Ableton now). But that's probably something I= did wrong inside Ableton, although it doesn't do that with the other butto= ns that are sometimes 1 on 1 copies. Have to dive into that. I also read ab= out bugs in the SoftStep or that some had to be taken back to the shop for = a new one, what are those bugs exactly? 'Cause I hope I at least have a hea= lthy machine. I only used it with the v1.1 update btw. > > Bottom line is that so far I'm really happy with it. Works really well in= combination with my Gordius and they fit both in the same flightcase! :-) > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > www.reyn.net > > On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> it was a nice idea but in my opinion quite premature and too >> x-pensive,now If you wanna buy expensive equipment to have to find >> work arounds and wait for upgrades that adress basic stuff that other >> cheaper devices do it,i surely wont. >> The thing for me is not worth the money at the moment.I spent over a >> month trying my best with this thing,making calls to the U.S. and even >> sent a =A0supportive email of hope but at the end i relaized it wasnt >> gonna happen any time soon. >> i also lost the shipping as Mark did and had to mail them a few times >> to get the dow back.Sarah was very supportive though >> bad mistake bringing it to europe without letting it mature >> first,learned my lesson for good. >> Im lucky i recently found a PMC10,for 80.00dlls is not that big and it >> works great and does just about everything one can ever need >> Ah yes some people have all the luck and dont have to pay for their equi= pment. >> Which makes us just wining morons;-) >> Luis >> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker wrote: >>>> Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? >>> >>> I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the issues >>> that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going on >>> the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if >>> you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed >>> issues, but not quite as you have understood them. >>> >>> The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance apart, >>> about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference with >>> stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't accidentally >>> trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. >>> >>> The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it >>> wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. >>> >>> The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about its >>> making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little >>> monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have switched >>> something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see if >>> it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a >>> problem... heh heh)... >>> >>> Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, its >>> flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would >>> completely erase any issue here... >>> >>> As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just not >>> for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really miss >>> them coolio lights... >>> >>> Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will t= oo.. >>> I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do >>> something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get >>> a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a >>> neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes >>> sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something you >>> haven't got...?? >>> Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with it... >>> >>> Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are not >>> happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit >>> difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there and >>> back, thats well over 100 dollars... >>> >>> >>> just my 1000 cents.. >>> >>> M. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:19:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51BD218349D; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-25_07:2011-03-25,2011-03-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103250084 Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:19:02 -0700 Message-id: <5B6BBC85-ACC9-457A-A559-3EE42A002834@mac.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Billy midi clock output is what is needed to drive another device in sync with your looper. If your looper has a midi out port and supports midi clock, you can spit tempo data at any midi instrument (HW or SW) and then route the resulting audio to a drummers headphone cue. Make sense? Many loopers do this... But I don't think the digitech does. This feature is frequently missing from stomp box style loopers. d On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Billy Thompson wrote: > Hello everyone... > > I was wondering whether some of you could suggest a looper to me with which > I could send out a separate rhythm track to a drummer for instance. > > I currently use the Digitech JamMan which is fairly good for my needs (even > though they brought the stereo version out not long after my purchase). This > has a built in rhythm track with 8 or so basic click sounds. > > The loop you then create locks nicely to this if this is the function you > choose. > > If I could have this click in my ear and not playing out front then a > perfectly in time loop would sound much more natural. Further to this what I > would really like as mentioned in the first paragraph would be for the click > track to be constantly in a drummer's ear so the drummer and I could create > in sync. > > Suggestions please if I've been clear enough... I'm basically still after a > foot pedal but all suggestions welcomed... > > Many thanks, > > Billy > http://www.billythompson.co.uk > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:21:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336A018349E; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WIYb3bNK/PeZBBAUgjORrzt/grR7L1J0TGGzynWPit8=; b=ttP+IHnJM3EK56KbzKFOLjQHb/lbrLdccCgiKOur8yY1h4TLHaM5sW42x/d4Wy5X6m 5u19d1byRRhxqeo/wDFgQ8H4J9cQ7pnwVBLZvdaE7BUYZrP0Q07wsSj9wbwOmqPPOalk IsHMQDc7P/ll8kk0u7kaQFXvCqebXslNTLZRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iN/P0UKYTemiqK1DQlBlq31wz+c8ZC67Uomfx5y/5JDY58RCBfyhRwjTtw92t+hIIy gbOG2OpAWtcqmtlm72zE/Gt1fDQkVasaJmP08dAWhjhoSWiL5ZmwnRuQDlYLXZ3ep61H z/76T0Ma38tzcLeKJ9/wgKoCDyVNPIdOBeugQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:20:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <9DS6XC.A.x-G.rDMjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) though Macbooks did at least though,they come with audio programs like garage band and i see pro musicians using them all the time... > No. Laptops are designed to run Power Point presentations, checking > email and chatting on the fly and writing text in a word processor. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:49:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62C1018349F; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sOOv3UqbC2Hj+RwQcN4UppBON2QNMol097BmxwjuDxo=; b=f8wt5uWmwWJzGolLwdIR1KOW3DIM/pJHTNkoZdid1wIjj2jjG+dt4Bf0iv5YmuxJi3 F1w0y/nCFb8BgVKbK4ytBSrRde5WsOuwh8rCU1ggeTnzWh9Fy/+22S0tscdSYm8IXaw8 rqRef+Vh/GF5QSP8GfTGGrNuhXLSGpwtcE0KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hx36kKLZ+DDrM7GLkpWMpLGI/bKBsjXIYZ0b1SKXrYFyZHarblemSaQ/9T2VK1eQZJ 9zTomEmAZJQzwOJErkuKEkF9mi8CHVBnraKGSjcVjX0CmvOq7UVKDIQ3sOG9KKFoLjRi UzsCdBeXNtj+Z+NvxguBY4l4X7Z1KP8jZ0/OA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Louie Angulo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302acfd011bac9049f515e57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf302acfd011bac9049f515e57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > are laptops not designed to do this? I would say it's more a problem with the software, in this case Ableton and/or Mobius and not the laptop. It is true that the OS may introduce some jitter in the MIDI clocks that might not be there in a hardware drum machine. But it's also possible for the software to compensate for jitter. Ableton has a reputation for not being able to sync to MIDI clocks very well, but I think it is mostly when the tempo of the clocks is changing. If the clock tempo stays constant it should be able to sync fairly well. I know several people have done this with Mobius. Going back to the tempo mismatch, can you give me an example of the difference? How far apart were they? Jeff --20cf302acfd011bac9049f515e57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> are laptops not designed to do this?
I would say it's more a problem with the software, in this = case
Ableton and/or Mobius and not the laptop. =A0It is true that= the OS may
introduce some jitter in the MIDI clocks that might not be there in a<= /div>
hardware drum machine. =A0But it's also possible for the soft= ware to
compensate for jitter.

Ableton h= as a reputation for not being able to sync to MIDI clocks
very well, but I think it is mostly when the tempo of the clocks is
changing. =A0If the clock tempo stays constant it should be able to= sync
fairly well. =A0I know several people have done this with M= obius.

Going back to the tempo mismatch, can you give me an ex= ample of
the difference? =A0How far apart were they?
Jeff

--20cf302acfd011bac9049f515e57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:58:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48AA11834A9; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H1MtdHMZ8HQwBeUbAPT6MNYCDHujz18L1lskgltdEBY=; b=DqBLOXpvL0GDVGOkzPllD2XrkSeUy/FH3qlY8v0ulqLbI1IMPibeYn2KBHJWPeYXDo BiR34xIf96QsPn/wwPOocTpZik9XqS9BbKNi3VfFLhhdbmm8/qpNuRslZdeNam+wl1fs 13g4ExqH4B5InJp5hWkBsShWKkorcisi/YQRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=bcc:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qI4A1RwUu19zM/C89Lk08zpYEgPO33MYXygVPhpmek7cWaGQ6SWDtigKPzHQ8TRIEG nAJ3thSENyIktOn7Qvcg/GHG5RdpUeUn0BxlrB2Afkr3Ruz/Q6jw7lDD3w/wSBavXu9/ J99C8OwN0ICdQgGg6RQQ6l+2z23HwIHjgg8O4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:58:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Jeff Larson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:58:44 +0000 (UTC) not very far Jeff, for ex. mobius showed 119.00 BPM and Ableton would show 119.14 but they did sound synced even though the difference is not that bad.. Do you really get them to rhytmically sync perfectly when mobius is the master? id be a very happy camper if i could get this going,believe id rather use mobius as my main looper! Luis On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > >> are laptops not designed to do this? > I would say it's more a problem with the software, in this case > Ableton and/or Mobius and not the laptop. =A0It is true that the OS may > introduce some jitter in the MIDI clocks that might not be there in a > hardware drum machine. =A0But it's also possible for the software to > compensate for jitter. > Ableton has a reputation for not being able to sync to MIDI clocks > very well, but I think it is mostly when the tempo of the clocks is > changing. =A0If the clock tempo stays constant it should be able to sync > fairly well. =A0I know several people have done this with Mobius. > Going back to the tempo mismatch, can you give me an example of > the difference? =A0How far apart were they? > Jeff > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 16:59:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72D491834B3; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qidwMZawbSdHa9rHQ8BusCq1UnvqwhlxN50VSfQOQ6I=; b=wf7u7fu8Le4/QNZlRSdaX+f3RNNqdMWytbzkNpqdreu5GiRKpU9XxjifLYJRaTA/Dj UcdljCmnl9+1T6FIreVnqWtNOKk9Qn+Vby8eie2CLaraVqfF9mzfD2ozAQYGtNRsxdCE dXQjmfIy+IaMhUIlfaYd5KoOA3YOW7QoCtBNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=bcc:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YRJdMEQe0bfmqmnApLrzBr+uJ7txmP7eaR8/9dNxCckE/S+t3pQKboPelGz2BQzUf8 jbkvuej5JB0INt1LECI74+ho5ra9JToECeoBkh2yMbKzRQ2tea+VE46jpgokPuZPZ1vz 6qZEUFnqjNwIjnLSLLG3cb4yMMVn202FCti+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4141AC61-10D1-49C8-A7AF-6D3F38A4CD57@zonemobius.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:59:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius latency compensation From: Louie Angulo To: Jeff Larson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:52 +0000 (UTC) sorry i meant they did "not" sound synced even though the difference ias not that far apart! On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > not very far Jeff, for ex. mobius showed 119.00 BPM and Ableton would > show 119.14 > but they did sound synced even though the difference is not that bad.. > Do you really get them to rhytmically sync perfectly when mobius is > the master? id be a very happy camper if i could get this > going,believe id rather use mobius as my main looper! > Luis > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >> >>> are laptops not designed to do this? >> I would say it's more a problem with the software, in this case >> Ableton and/or Mobius and not the laptop. =A0It is true that the OS may >> introduce some jitter in the MIDI clocks that might not be there in a >> hardware drum machine. =A0But it's also possible for the software to >> compensate for jitter. >> Ableton has a reputation for not being able to sync to MIDI clocks >> very well, but I think it is mostly when the tempo of the clocks is >> changing. =A0If the clock tempo stays constant it should be able to sync >> fairly well. =A0I know several people have done this with Mobius. >> Going back to the tempo mismatch, can you give me an example of >> the difference? =A0How far apart were they? >> Jeff >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 17:08:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE9FC18349F; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XSVsnojmRLkoHpaDhyISSwiKbYsvzApbEOFVUrSM52I=; b=P2Vu3LTPdWBhExKmheAgjmDWNIzaU802S1hiLUbhYS4BUjywDuFWb4LajWZsX/c3CJ wbSUPtxSzHOF3z3JZsBveLt9KpPaMhG33eaLKenqE+bVBA7YwlWBbmhjbRRzX7vOiD3q QbYEE9ALm8zV2ANfJPCyq7bmbLJzR35FYj1YI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c4Ut4DnZqadIb+eLy/uADhohLaZ9GumyOtNtM5C4zuYmbE3hWfn2k/NMIqnTfmYNjA QgrqDRE/bgtKTbG64dWt6plXfMAxY8d2EbeXQ3xK0DXAUcg1vwLY7fkEXKon47x2x88g wmmW5Y8z5nesNGgykHsg4xwH7b1PmYpMBjaSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:08:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: LP2 shipping date? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone heard a peep about the shipping date? I pre-ordered one. Last I heard was "March". -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 17:48:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B18218349D; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:48:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q3B80-0002aY-Hl X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.9, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sim, I use Final Cut Pro for it. There's this great feature where you = can really choose different angles like you would do if you were a = director directing a live show. Cheers, Reyn. On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Reyn - can i ask what software you used to make the videos? i may have = some multiple camera angles to compile soon and im not sure if i ca do = with the software i have >=20 > many thanks >=20 > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 17:49:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2B1E183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Reyn Ouwehand Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-645648416 Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:49:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q3B91-00012t-R7 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.899, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: <6zFyD.A.ClB.FXNjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-645648416 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeh, it's the singer from Coparck. I actually produced their last 2 = records. They splitted up this year though.. He now has this solo = project called Chop Wood. Cheers, Reyn. On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Johannes Korn wrote: >=20 >=20 > 2011/3/25 Loopers Delight loopers-delight@reyn.net >=20 >=20 > ** Electric Looping. I really like this one because it's all = electronic. I'm really beginning dislike these laptop acts with just = prefabbed material turning knobs I don't really hear. In this case there = is only a song and just a loop at the beginning and the rest is = improvisation. Which is pretty much the concept of Reyn vs ..., but I = never done it totally electronic. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIx8tIOR6ACA >=20 > Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > www.myspace.com/nashorn >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-645648416 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yeh, it's the singer from Coparck. I actually produced their last 2 records. They splitted up this year though.. He now has this solo project called Chop Wood.

Cheers,

Reyn.

On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Johannes Korn wrote:



2011/3/25 Loopers Delight loopers-delight@reyn.net


** Electric Looping. I really like this one because it's all electronic. I'm really beginning dislike these laptop acts with just prefabbed material turning knobs I don't really hear. In this case there is only a song and just a loop at the beginning and the rest is improvisation. Which is pretty much the concept of Reyn vs ..., but I never done it totally electronic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8tIOR6ACA

Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck?


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--Apple-Mail-2-645648416-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 17:50:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2990E1834A7; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jmYqk9BFYJdOGIA/AB4qT6Bgf84pN6ikTBawG1k6kxY=; b=xnAOdw8SHGxdN8FWiw8k7EflA8VkCoYUs9h+/L/mMeLfTp3uNgEXeguo9oY2iyB1/P wi0UKCj5dzmz9mTW1UZ4Fr88khBQ69F/7G7lPgb/4ZQaG6qfkmU2kWEVVji89AWtYOMo JuWhr6ATuBsdZTqXWJvg4OtNAnxB6YM4UwcYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E0fs8vUSquFn+le7gOAlLSvBjEXVIDh9kyhFqc1fCsXlgfbQU3aVjazJ+qIkfiRtzc 7pC9+AwC+xKisotFxGS+H+o9JamyKIr92STyc7vQMfH1bhjK65FEPSXWegaZOT+ohyTx lVrHmJbtEJBm6nTS+z3b78WYYwu00q00daKok= References: <5B6BBC85-ACC9-457A-A559-3EE42A002834@mac.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <5B6BBC85-ACC9-457A-A559-3EE42A002834@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:50:37 +0100 Message-ID: <-445767768471689183@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7wsO2B.A.EoB.5XNjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Never tried, but I think the beat synch out on an EDP is a click... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 25 Mar 2011, at 17:19, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Hi Billy > > midi clock output is what is needed to drive another device in sync with = your looper. If your looper has a midi out port and supports midi clock, y= ou can spit tempo data at any midi instrument (HW or SW) and then route the= resulting audio to a drummers headphone cue. Make sense? > > Many loopers do this... But I don't think the digitech does. This featur= e is frequently missing from stomp box style loopers. > > > d > On Mar 25, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Billy Thompson wrote: > >> Hello everyone... >> >> I was wondering whether some of you could suggest a looper to me with wh= ich >> I could send out a separate rhythm track to a drummer for instance. >> >> I currently use the Digitech JamMan which is fairly good for my needs (e= ven >> though they brought the stereo version out not long after my purchase). = This >> has a built in rhythm track with 8 or so basic click sounds. >> >> The loop you then create locks nicely to this if this is the function yo= u >> choose. >> >> If I could have this click in my ear and not playing out front then a >> perfectly in time loop would sound much more natural. Further to this wh= at I >> would really like as mentioned in the first paragraph would be for the c= lick >> track to be constantly in a drummer's ear so the drummer and I could cre= ate >> in sync. >> >> Suggestions please if I've been clear enough... I'm basically still afte= r a >> foot pedal but all suggestions welcomed... >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Billy >> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 21:01:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0A80183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: hDU= A2fe CJgu Ckps ClOE EBMo EIXc Fd91 H+iv IYmE Ipg6 IxVS JD49 JHFu JyR5 KOGy;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{222CBCB3-9B2F-4185-86E5-A7BC920ACA42};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:51:10 GMT;SQBwAGgAbwBuAGUALwBwAGEAZAAvAHQAbwB1AGMAaAAgAEwAbwBvAHAAZQByAHMA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {222CBCB3-9B2F-4185-86E5-A7BC920ACA42} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:00:18 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers Thread-Index: Acvq0oY/USWs/06YSYqaNUkDMyaLwwAWVzIw References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2011 21:01:13.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6A36B60:01CBEB2F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Am I just hallucianating (very possible lol) or am I the only one seeing the giant elephant in the corner here? A looper is gonna have to have foot control, period, I think, right? Unless we are just talking beat boxing which I know we aren't. So, developers, why not get the Line 6 I/whatever to Midi interface and make us a looper that will respond to midi? It works, I/ve seen it work several times at NAMM. Having said that, just yesterday I had a related experience. At NAMM, with all the Iwhats floating around and being used, you would think they were gonna take over the world. But yesterday I was at the Sam Ash in Charlotte and they had not one thing in the store related to Iwhats. No mic stand holders, no Iwhat to midi interface, nothing. They said they had the Line Six interface for a while but sold it and "it wasn't a fast mover, we haven't restocked it" I said, "well I've been in here twice to buy one, trying to shop locally, so I will just order off the internet I guess" Them "Oh we'll order you one" Right, let me drive two hours to Charlotte again to pick something up that you should have in stock, not. The Istorm does not look like you could say that it is really "looming" yet. On the brighter side, been pissin and moanin about the LP1 not sending midi commands in the new versions, so decided to do something about it and got the midi-solutions Event Processor Plus, and having now to refigure my midi layouts, fies the prob thou, programming looks easy and I can see I need another one to set up so that with one program change I can set up a whole song. Yeah, yeah Gordius I know, but this is a cheaper and faster way out as I am happy with my pedal situation. Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 21:14:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 190C4183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:14:52 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0602C4B0-FA26-467A-AAB4-703F5EC66D99@reyn.net> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q3ELN-0004gT-No X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-1.001, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_40 -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:14:55 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Johannes wrote - Very nice! Is that the singer from Coparck? >=20 > whoever he is, he's got a great voice! >=20 > must be a lot of work setting up for these gigs and then editing the = video afterwards Nah, I got into a nice routine already. My setup is very practical and = quick to setup. Lot of pre-cabling etc. And there are no rehearsals. I = really 'stick' myself to the artist which is actually why the adrenaline = rush is so great. He does his songs and I glue myself to him as tasteful = as possible. And most of the looping ideas I get while in the car. My = solfege is pretty ok, so I don't need too much time to learn the songs = either. With the 'directors' function in Final Cut Pro it's very easy to = make a nice cut of the movies. And mixing is a walk in the park for me = since that's pretty much part of what I do as a living. Cheers, Reyn. www.reyn.net www.studio.reyn.net www.reyn.vs.reyn.net= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 21:16:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26B7918349C; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Reyn Ouwehand In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:16:48 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Authenticated-Sender: reynouwehand@quicknet.nl (via SMTP) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q3ENE-0007FM-SS X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.177, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_50 0.80, HK_MUCHMONEY 0.30, TW_FC 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Luis. So the button is software related, not hardware? I use it = with my laptop and Ableton. I really love the editor. I don't use the = scrolling though. R. On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Yes Reyn,this also happened with that same button and i remeber n the > softstep yahoo groups someone else mentioned it. > Back then i was not able to use it as a stand alone,it was dependent > on the software and it kept crashing on me and not saving my presets,i > had to reboot the computer so many times,the update back then i think > 1.31 was even worse.But that might have changed now,are u using it as > stand alone? > I like everything else though,the lights,the size and all of the midi > comands you can send.Aside of the back row not being a bit higher to > trigger those buttons, which i could live with, i also found it a bit > tricky when scrolling to banks. All in all i didnt feel comfortable > enough for me to take on the road which is why i initially bought it > for. > Though i think once all the bugs are ironed out,i think ill look for > another one in ebay sometime.The size is whats still mostly atractive > for me!! > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> Only thing is that the first trigger keeps going into a Note On mode = after I reset all the loopers (in Ableton now). But that's probably = something I did wrong inside Ableton, although it doesn't do that with = the other buttons that are sometimes 1 on 1 copies. Have to dive into = that. I also read about bugs in the SoftStep or that some had to be = taken back to the shop for a new one, what are those bugs exactly? = 'Cause I hope I at least have a healthy machine. I only used it with the = v1.1 update btw. >>=20 >> Bottom line is that so far I'm really happy with it. Works really = well in combination with my Gordius and they fit both in the same = flightcase! :-) >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> Reyn >>=20 >> www.reyn.net >>=20 >> On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>=20 >>> it was a nice idea but in my opinion quite premature and too >>> x-pensive,now If you wanna buy expensive equipment to have to find >>> work arounds and wait for upgrades that adress basic stuff that = other >>> cheaper devices do it,i surely wont. >>> The thing for me is not worth the money at the moment.I spent over a >>> month trying my best with this thing,making calls to the U.S. and = even >>> sent a supportive email of hope but at the end i relaized it wasnt >>> gonna happen any time soon. >>> i also lost the shipping as Mark did and had to mail them a few = times >>> to get the dow back.Sarah was very supportive though >>> bad mistake bringing it to europe without letting it mature >>> first,learned my lesson for good. >>> Im lucky i recently found a PMC10,for 80.00dlls is not that big and = it >>> works great and does just about everything one can ever need >>> Ah yes some people have all the luck and dont have to pay for their = equipment. >>> Which makes us just wining morons;-) >>> Luis >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, mark francombe = wrote: >>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker = wrote: >>>>> Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? >>>>=20 >>>> I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the = issues >>>> that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going = on >>>> the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if >>>> you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed >>>> issues, but not quite as you have understood them. >>>>=20 >>>> The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance = apart, >>>> about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference = with >>>> stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't = accidentally >>>> trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. >>>>=20 >>>> The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it >>>> wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. >>>>=20 >>>> The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about = its >>>> making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little >>>> monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have = switched >>>> something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see = if >>>> it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a >>>> problem... heh heh)... >>>>=20 >>>> Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, = its >>>> flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would >>>> completely erase any issue here... >>>>=20 >>>> As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just = not >>>> for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really = miss >>>> them coolio lights... >>>>=20 >>>> Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people = will too.. >>>> I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who = do >>>> something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do = get >>>> a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a >>>> neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes >>>> sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something = you >>>> haven't got...?? >>>> Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with = it... >>>>=20 >>>> Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are = not >>>> happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit >>>> difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there = and >>>> back, thats well over 100 dollars... >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> just my 1000 cents.. >>>>=20 >>>> M. >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Mark Francombe >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 21:36:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B7E8183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cD93b0mrUKLJjGynlI16OT3auJveGbgZePKixzzDdh9YN2+Hn0Gxo2bdjEcxmwgn; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:35:53 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ce5d0720c78288b68f8b98c8095a9e0e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: <67I7H.A.NTG.MrQjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:36:13 +0000 (UTC) On the other hand, an iPod / iPhone is small enough to mount on your instrument.... >Am I just hallucianating (very possible lol) or am I the only one seeing >the giant elephant in the corner here? > >A looper is gonna have to have foot control, period, I think, right? >Unless we are just talking beat boxing which I know we aren't. > >So, developers, why not get the Line 6 I/whatever to Midi interface and >make us a looper that will respond to midi? It works, I/ve seen it work >several times at NAMM. > >Having said that, just yesterday I had a related experience. At NAMM, >with all the Iwhats floating around and being used, you would think they >were gonna take over the world. But yesterday I was at the Sam Ash in >Charlotte and they had not one thing in the store related to Iwhats. No >mic stand holders, no Iwhat to midi interface, nothing. They said they >had the Line Six interface for a while but sold it and "it wasn't a fast >mover, we haven't restocked it" I said, "well I've been in here twice to >buy one, trying to shop locally, so I will just order off the internet I >guess" Them "Oh we'll order you one" Right, let me drive two hours to >Charlotte again to pick something up that you should have in stock, not. > >The Istorm does not look like you could say that it is really "looming" >yet. > >On the brighter side, been pissin and moanin about the LP1 not sending >midi commands in the new versions, so decided to do something about it >and got the midi-solutions Event Processor Plus, and having now to >refigure my midi layouts, fies the prob thou, programming looks easy and >I can see I need another one to set up so that with one program change I >can set up a whole song. Yeah, yeah Gordius I know, but this is a >cheaper and faster way out as I am happy with my pedal situation. > >Andy o -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 22:00:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C575F183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 657 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:00:31 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=YbkFaF8o98oeva8dMgNgFYuRB3bn3UAu89g0IerQ7OAA4V4qbxiyFI6Py2i8XYyz; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2989396.1301089772753.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:32 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Grant Reply-To: Grant To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 4627597e215714c3ca853a8129e90869f402879cecb40bd5270d2bb6a4873f0f199c6ea89fc169682660c3dc9237504a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:00:31 +0000 (UTC) One thought would be to use a stereo looper and let one channel be the "cue" track (routed as desired, maybe select channel for recording with an A/B switch) and the other channel for the loops. G >> >>> Hello everyone... >>> >>> I was wondering whether some of you could suggest a looper to me with which >>> I could send out a separate rhythm track to a drummer for instance. >>> >>> I currently use the Digitech JamMan which is fairly good for my needs (even >>> though they brought the stereo version out not long after my purchase). This >>> has a built in rhythm track with 8 or so basic click sounds. >>> >>> The loop you then create locks nicely to this if this is the function you >>> choose. >>> >>> If I could have this click in my ear and not playing out front then a >>> perfectly in time loop would sound much more natural. Further to this what I >>> would really like as mentioned in the first paragraph would be for the click >>> track to be constantly in a drummer's ear so the drummer and I could create >>> in sync. >>> >>> Suggestions please if I've been clear enough... I'm basically still after a >>> foot pedal but all suggestions welcomed... >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Billy >>> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 22:53:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2E11183486; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301093611; bh=T7/KCBNWwWqX7GpdFlcG0MQ6vUQJ1AeAWjAHCXhSJVE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zYg76CDv3iwIVdULsbPn4Lbdy70WzGEXkMKu7DkzXNCwchN9ws7GDDgScIFI2fgHkvaEMDins2t4qo5rG6SogTMM8xggcVp/nnknNi85aQVFQalNo7kc3IKhoAuPk2btoDjRwp4c9ZwMrjv9ZFEEzlWcjRZtxA3CZ5iDA+mfyMw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=09x2GBkH+DzRLSkVXNP0sexUjYgagkTduD2792CT7WVTy+gPthQqWC9wFXaaYdgh7xrRyKzv8HX6KdrHyHv6+j0GpJVKu4be1tcVNhdQVmz5ca3b1h5wHZJ1UX04KgNJLO8frTBON6XArQ8kQ/d2lIBiY5L4MOo/dWGR43WYcd8=; Message-ID: <786909.82108.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0hi1cmwVM1mkzHiz5UrfWBIOHkl3nB4OwfQjM4UKEIeC7Am BOLWBUme1W1ENoQ__6QSuk0rdtLniwYH7oPh.7TY_6M0hoqtouvVSKEttYml yvTM8d.Hj5bp48.mGNApBT3tt5pF8UjM7eEyBqp.wXwR2v.ypR2HMxReqi15 dxX9AvVZn6IqAI9dWsrIoBPr8xiKzN8IUZC34thpSsHzRKqzD.DfEngrQlzl gvz_YBR2RtVY.bV7TcDqK3QYxloltmfuVLTRGn2R8NWUY7B_9SCsxKz8qZYx Vo_f_9yasQrcoWs9CQxzrLG7R_2Rd3QtS6GqS7R2Q4rkj4OWMouEn7zQ8Fjp SzuB3Io3rA26aeUH_ov1zckxn2g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:53:31 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Codanova Midi Surface WAS ... OT video software for live input To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-199685391-1301093611=:82108" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:53:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-199685391-1301093611=:82108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey thanks, I work with a VJ she is goign to like this! Antony ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:31:32 PM Subject: Codanova Midi Surface WAS ... OT video software for live input While looking for software for Antony, I found this... Am I mistaken or does this look very very cool? Meant for VJs of course.. but.... its midi! http://www.codanova.com/article-new-prototype-midi-controller-codanova-vmx-v64-50855556.html Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0-199685391-1301093611=:82108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey thanks, I work with a VJ she is goign to like this!

Antony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 4:31:32 PM
Subject: Codanova Midi Surface WAS ... OT video software for live input

While looking for software for Antony, I found this...

Am I mistaken or does this look very very cool? Meant for VJs of
course.. but.... its midi!

http://www.codanova.com/article-new-prototype-midi-controller-codanova-vmx-v64-50855556.html

Mark

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--0-199685391-1301093611=:82108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 25 23:31:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E87D0183456; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-25_09:2011-03-25,2011-03-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103250158 Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <2989396.1301089772753.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:31:17 -0700 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <7C990897-00E1-49F2-9D24-EDEB7B817B2B@mac.com> References: <2989396.1301089772753.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: Grant X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:31:51 +0000 (UTC) > One thought would be to use a stereo looper and let one channel be the "cue" track (routed as desired, maybe select channel for recording with an A/B switch) and the other channel for the loops. For that matter, you could just use an outboard mixer to split the audio mix off to the drummer. But this does not get at Billy's desire to hear the tempo before the first loop is created. d On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Grant wrote: > One thought would be to use a stereo looper and let one channel be the "cue" track (routed as desired, maybe select channel for recording with an A/B switch) and the other channel for the loops. > > G > > > >>> >>>> Hello everyone... >>>> >>>> I was wondering whether some of you could suggest a looper to me with which >>>> I could send out a separate rhythm track to a drummer for instance. >>>> >>>> I currently use the Digitech JamMan which is fairly good for my needs (even >>>> though they brought the stereo version out not long after my purchase). This >>>> has a built in rhythm track with 8 or so basic click sounds. >>>> >>>> The loop you then create locks nicely to this if this is the function you >>>> choose. >>>> >>>> If I could have this click in my ear and not playing out front then a >>>> perfectly in time loop would sound much more natural. Further to this what I >>>> would really like as mentioned in the first paragraph would be for the click >>>> track to be constantly in a drummer's ear so the drummer and I could create >>>> in sync. >>>> >>>> Suggestions please if I've been clear enough... I'm basically still after a >>>> foot pedal but all suggestions welcomed... >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> >>>> Billy >>>> http://www.billythompson.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 01:16:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 659C9183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6222A425-68EB-4908-BBC0-AD359D702681@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:16:50 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <8O-U6D.A.SUD.K6TjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the feedback one and all, I don't have the money right now for one anyway, even though they are on special at $269 with the expander through the end of march. but I realized that this was a product with so much potential and depth yet it might be like learning a whole new instrument or at the very least, completely changing ones paradigm about how they hit a switch with their foot and what kind of shoe or lack of one works best.. i'm sorry the reality hasn't quite lived up to the potential, for some of you , but I do like the people at the company, and they do seem to be listening and working to correct some of the issues we have been discussing. And its encouraging to see that some of you have been able to make it work, I thought there might be a few of you out there, so I check in from time to time. To be honest at this point people with current software and recent experience are ones i'm most interested in hearing from, if you don't mind taking the time to chime in. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 02:16:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AC5D183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8D4C86.3000105@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:16:38 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LP2 shipping date? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:47 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Has anyone heard a peep about the shipping date? I pre-ordered one. > Last I heard was "March". > Essentially, we Bob was shooting for March 1st, but his father became seriously ill and then passed away in December and with travelling back east to the funeral and everything else that comes up when we finally lose a beloved partent, it set the whole process back considerably. I know he is very close. He's already fixed all the hardware issues of the first prototypes and almost every software issue (I've been beta testing for him as well). I know he's working very, very hard on it, every day and it's his number one priority to get it out, so be assured of that. It's just tough sometimes, when one tries to be an entire company, and have a 40 hour job and lead a large family as Bob is doing. Soon come, mon, but we don't want to project a shipping date yet, until we're dead certain that everything functions effortlessly. I will tell you this, though, Matt. You are going to love some of this functionality...... the 1/4 speed thing......the random retrigger.......midi synchronization.......Q replace functions are really fun and I'm getting some very creative experimental things out of the device already. Rick Walker ps if you have any questions about functionality or shipping, please direct all your inquiries to me. I want to help Bob focus on only getting this thing shipped so I'll take on correspondance for him. pps What recent events have also done is to put LP-1 upgrades and fixes on a bit of a back burner but these things WILL happen, I promise you. ppps Also, please don't suggest additional feature sets for the LP-2.........the unit is finished. period. point. dot My advice if you don't care for the unit or you wish it did something different is 1) don't buy it and 2) invest in a laptop and run multiple instances of Mobius and Plogue Bidule or Ableton's Live and get creative and prepare for the learning curve it will take to get that all functioning......... 3) either this, or begin designing your own looper from scratch. That's what Bob did. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 02:16:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEFFC1834A4; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: APg8 Aq46 Bo/B C5pL C/3i D0TJ D9C+ E88h FBXD GTCr GwBD IAKG IEsQ IHKM JB/v K4J9;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{BB14A13B-FA80-498D-90D2-1E489473083C};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:11:15 GMT;UgBFADoAIABJAHAAaABvAG4AZQAvAHAAYQBkAC8AdABvAHUAYwBoACAATABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {BB14A13B-FA80-498D-90D2-1E489473083C} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:11:15 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADD3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers Thread-Index: AcvrNKwolP1tpPDpToelQehMShSIIQAJgdSA References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.ne t> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2011 02:16:48.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC96E920:01CBEB5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:50 +0000 (UTC) OK, how about voice commands? But what's so hard about midi, just curious? Or mount on the instrument, then a long gooseneck and then tongue presses for making the commands and such, cool, then you could lick up and down for certain things, then lick in a circle, then back and forth, hey wait a minute there..............................I'm all practiced up!!! Andy b (not really) -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net]=20 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 5:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers On the other hand, an iPod / iPhone is small enough to mount on your=20 instrument.... >Am I just hallucianating (very possible lol) or am I the only one seeing >the giant elephant in the corner here? > >A looper is gonna have to have foot control, period, I think, right? >Unless we are just talking beat boxing which I know we aren't. > >So, developers, why not get the Line 6 I/whatever to Midi interface and >make us a looper that will respond to midi? It works, I/ve seen it work >several times at NAMM. > >Having said that, just yesterday I had a related experience. At NAMM, >with all the Iwhats floating around and being used, you would think they >were gonna take over the world. But yesterday I was at the Sam Ash in >Charlotte and they had not one thing in the store related to Iwhats. No >mic stand holders, no Iwhat to midi interface, nothing. They said they >had the Line Six interface for a while but sold it and "it wasn't a fast >mover, we haven't restocked it" I said, "well I've been in here twice to >buy one, trying to shop locally, so I will just order off the internet I >guess" Them "Oh we'll order you one" Right, let me drive two hours to >Charlotte again to pick something up that you should have in stock, not. > >The Istorm does not look like you could say that it is really "looming" >yet. > >On the brighter side, been pissin and moanin about the LP1 not sending >midi commands in the new versions, so decided to do something about it >and got the midi-solutions Event Processor Plus, and having now to >refigure my midi layouts, fies the prob thou, programming looks easy and >I can see I need another one to set up so that with one program change I >can set up a whole song. Yeah, yeah Gordius I know, but this is a >cheaper and faster way out as I am happy with my pedal situation. > >Andy o --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 02:16:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77D321834AB; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: A/VC Bf3n Bngj Byny DRPT DdL9 DkVR DvjR Dv3Y D+cQ EKul ENoR FI9Z FVHd Fx+o LQ/8;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{44383D34-D70C-4F6A-924A-F9A7C9FFD6FC};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:14:58 GMT;UgBFADoAIABMAG8AbwBwAGUAcgAgAHQAaABhAHQAIABzAHAAaQB0AHMAIABvAHUAdAAgAHMAZQBwAGEAcgBhAHQAZQAgAGMAbABpAGMAawAgAHQAcgBhAGMAawA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {44383D34-D70C-4F6A-924A-F9A7C9FFD6FC} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Looper that spits out separate click track Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:14:58 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADD4@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <-445767768471689183@unknownmsgid> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looper that spits out separate click track Thread-Index: AcvrFS9KfV1SLe3AT2eXT4EbJ3m5qQARezpw References: <5B6BBC85-ACC9-457A-A559-3EE42A002834@mac.com> <-445767768471689183@unknownmsgid> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2011 02:16:48.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCA2D000:01CBEB5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Easy to use aux a or aux b on the lp1 for that, for now it's one choice, main, a or b, maybe someday if I get rich and bribe Bob to change it, you could send to main, a and or b independently, would be killer for doing moving sounds around a room and still keeping your cue with all by cueing main out. Anybody know what any known bugs in 1.38 lp1 might be? Gotta upgrade but I'm a scared!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 02:25:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E233183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8D4E76.103@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:24:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Iphone/pad/touch Loopers References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AD8F@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-CFhqD.A.uvE.B6UjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:25:06 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Am I just hallucianating (very possible lol) or am I the only one seeing > the giant elephant in the corner here? > > A looper is gonna have to have foot control, period, I think, right? > Unless we are just talking beat boxing which I know we aren't. > > So, developers, why not get the Line 6 I/whatever to Midi interface and > make us a looper that will respond to midi? It works, I/ve seen it work > several times at NAMM. Sorry you've been frustrated, Andy. for what it's worth, the LP-1 will start to improve the second the LP-2 ships. Bob is only one person and it's just taken a lot of time to get this product out the door. It's a very hip piece of kit so I think it will have been worth the wait (remember how long we waited for electrix? lol. this isnt' too bad). Additionally, Hans Lindauers "Missing Link" allows one to use an iPad, iTouch, iPhone as an OSC controller whose signals are converted wirelessly to MIDI commands. As with all new technology in the computer world, it is rarely ever innovated with musicians specifically in mind. Consequently, all the cool after market shit has to be developed. Someone who has a bit of capital stashed away could certainly make some money if an iPad/iTouch stand was created for musicians. You might also look into all the little add on hardware that has been developed to adapt laptop computers to keyboard stands. I'm currently using pedal boards up on keyboard stands so that I can quickly manipulate loops...........a little U shaped addition for an iPad would be hipper than shit to have. If not, you probably could get a local metal welder to customize you something pretty inexpensively. It would only entail taking sheet metal, cutting it out and bending it in to the proper U shape to place under a keyboard or pedalboard. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 02:41:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB690183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:41:09 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.59.103 In-Reply-To: <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33456-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDB97664BA0C9E-1748-2ABFC@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 02:41:23 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIx8tIOR6ACA sweet!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 06:34:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71B94183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=Gu84p4RItHOM2D59oZiKCBj+4TNCBKLPhnz0USleRXk=; b=NQXeBvQ+CAsOl+PQvU5/aGPLPqIjcYWRQmUhJhHYRIJDw/CHtraG/s+75aTuCyrcLI Y+7+Ps5VPt4S6wKBaXhN3rmDhVrVKGEcRFL7rn8Ap81f/Thps9vAmN+cEkpjqgN/CWk9 oU5eN4cTi96ThAArKBo4/MX2IShYChcx4WqD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=ANHERA/X+DB2AG3W2pC06AaTd9F1OwVGg6TM84kXmR0FilOQUyagv8wNB7jC6IoS3U 9JFee0cKgyPfNh1onvCC8LWzX9zxvHYEs6D8tM2HhSmeGduuKG4Rw+tK5CU1fTxT3Xvw hQ01qBEK7OK9XiwSWId5LjtWz24PshNSUfOU4= References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <6676800E-E917-4EB4-81FD-DC3607FA277F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 07:34:13 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: <1507UC.A.sdC.BkYjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Must send a ROFLMAO to that! :-) Translation please I have no idea what that means... -f > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 09:30:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F04C2183453; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 598471870/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.62/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.62 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAAqxjU1YbRo+/2dsb2JhbAAMmFeWYLl0hWkEkD0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,247,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="598471870" Message-ID: <4D8DB210.8050507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:29:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? back row raised References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0N-cAD.A.yoG.XIbjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > Aside of the back row not being a bit higher to > trigger those buttons, hmm, why not cut out some blocks of wood to the shape of the pads and stick them on? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 09:46:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF8E5183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a4LuORa9uOoc7ypYEDLT1ZtK2h1ks6chCwmDF4cs8EI=; b=vE5XcLWirI1ZFbRb/dn6UUfZArRHA1UtARUMImd5T0UCa2vbxbybpsxLgl80Bp+RXq 8lkExOy/lEQ1QZb+IhMMAr6yXomYhWccRdcZTU3t8F+I6+HY8HzsLtdrvm7aX+hwpzqO K0nw5Sp3mBLzUx49V+oqObfZCmNx973mmXTxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P42pXktuCrFalBG5U3Uv3ZPa1ZwaI8gwIhMg7lCihapn9Jm10hCbnmB5SPfBdFHeeu tIzd5gAQh6cIZxjU0a9EJydSXs3KASbcy6tU6Nbem/fzumg3SUoQgGhiVA9N3s8dp8+H ggpAcbZfRe4gdq9PScgJbaROBzyFmMlB84NKo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D8DB210.8050507@tiscali.co.uk> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> <4D8DB210.8050507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? back row raised From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:55 +0000 (UTC) true very good idea Andy! It accurs to me you can take the rubber feet of a stomp box device and stick it to the pads backwards as well,and the foot aim will be better;-) Luis On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:29 AM, andy butler wrote: > Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Aside of the back row not being a bit higher to >> trigger those buttons, > > hmm, > why not cut out some blocks of wood to the shape of the pads > and stick them on? > > andy > > -- www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 09:49:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C72C118349D; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HDVc3PByA/2TzQS2Jb5CFkEEv6A8rjSXazvyTN1bwsg=; b=TsUY+v17uLpdSYpruGQK+HMmIMM7YYG6U/Giwf8n6QMpTVLHlze2IHlnG7cNSHYV1a Uresoqroohuv44tdLx4Tn5MEzKcypBMWblOZyNdeq5D09+7NK2Z2RGjUuo9iJJdLEkv7 dUV5x9Mcymx7LmHHvOYDQiXBNaSdhRnfoiScg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i9jyCLER7YD1nUlQYiGDjG07Fbo5GNKnwCEoNxeysJXI+pgiYoy+zXrhzh4S2I5nFS GVc0N6NtoCsSvksNUe29sNlV8xpmrh2eJ5fYhY7Py+sT0vWw4nxkXItFNino1KwVFItI kOOUv5cmeG559YQK0fHpkdPCpp0AJqsXVaiaY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:49:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:49:35 +0000 (UTC) I beleive so but dont quote me on it,the software was really buggy and i just didnt know where that was coming from since i could not test it as stand alone cheers Luis On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > Thanks Luis. So the button is software related, not hardware? I use it wi= th my laptop and Ableton. I really love the editor. I don't use the scrolli= ng though. R. > > On Mar 25, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Yes Reyn,this also happened with that same button and i remeber n the >> softstep yahoo groups someone else mentioned it. >> Back then i was not able to use it as a stand alone,it was dependent >> on the software and it kept crashing on me and not saving my presets,i >> had to reboot the computer so many times,the update back then i think >> 1.31 was even worse.But that might have changed now,are u using it as >> stand alone? >> I like everything else though,the lights,the size and all of the midi >> comands you can send.Aside of the back row not being a bit higher to >> trigger those buttons, which i could live with, i also found it a bit >> tricky when scrolling to banks. All in all i didnt feel comfortable >> enough for me to take on the road which is why i initially bought it >> for. >> Though i think once all the bugs are ironed out,i think ill look for >> another one in ebay sometime.The size is whats still mostly atractive >> for me!! >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >>> Only thing is that the first trigger keeps going into a Note On mode af= ter I reset all the loopers (in Ableton now). But that's probably something= I did wrong inside Ableton, although it doesn't do that with the other but= tons that are sometimes 1 on 1 copies. Have to dive into that. I also read = about bugs in the SoftStep or that some had to be taken back to the shop fo= r a new one, what are those bugs exactly? 'Cause I hope I at least have a h= ealthy machine. I only used it with the v1.1 update btw. >>> >>> Bottom line is that so far I'm really happy with it. Works really well = in combination with my Gordius and they fit both in the same flightcase! :-= ) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Reyn >>> >>> www.reyn.net >>> >>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>> >>>> it was a nice idea but in my opinion quite premature and too >>>> x-pensive,now If you wanna buy expensive equipment to have to find >>>> work arounds and wait for upgrades that adress basic stuff that other >>>> cheaper devices do it,i surely wont. >>>> The thing for me is not worth the money at the moment.I spent over a >>>> month trying my best with this thing,making calls to the U.S. and even >>>> sent a =A0supportive email of hope but at the end i relaized it wasnt >>>> gonna happen any time soon. >>>> i also lost the shipping as Mark did and had to mail them a few times >>>> to get the dow back.Sarah was very supportive though >>>> bad mistake bringing it to europe without letting it mature >>>> first,learned my lesson for good. >>>> Im lucky i recently found a PMC10,for 80.00dlls is not that big and it >>>> works great and does just about everything one can ever need >>>> Ah yes some people have all the luck and dont have to pay for their eq= uipment. >>>> Which makes us just wining morons;-) >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:13 PM, William Walker wrote: >>>>>> Anyone but me seeing the irony here? Do I think it can work? >>>>> >>>>> I really dont think there is any ironic situation here... the issues >>>>> that you are focusing on are not totally correct, if you are going on >>>>> the written word from this list without trying it yourself Bill, if >>>>> you have then... sorry...... all the things you mention are indeed >>>>> issues, but not quite as you have understood them. >>>>> >>>>> The size: Not really an issue, the switches are a good distance apart= , >>>>> about the same as some closely packed stomp boxes. The difference wit= h >>>>> stomp boxes (or a fcb or a LG) is the the switches don't accidentally >>>>> trigger if you lie you foot gently on one. >>>>> >>>>> The lack of raised back pedals, again, would NOT be an issue if it >>>>> wasn't so dangerous to touch the front row of switches. >>>>> >>>>> The lack of tactile feel when it switches is NOT of course about its >>>>> making an audible click (as you well know Bill... you cheeky little >>>>> monkey) Its about a TACTILE click... a FEELING that you have switched >>>>> something.. I ALWAYS had to check with one eye on the screen to see i= f >>>>> it had REALLY gone into record, or overdub, (reverse was never a >>>>> problem... heh heh)... >>>>> >>>>> Although it was light, its lack of weight really isn't a problem, its >>>>> flat bottomed, and doesn't wobble or slide, maybe rubber feet would >>>>> completely erase any issue here... >>>>> >>>>> As far as I was concerned, this type or rubber switches was just not >>>>> for me... but I tell ya... the lights... woooow man... I really miss >>>>> them coolio lights... >>>>> >>>>> Im glad you think it will work Bill, cos that means other people will= too.. >>>>> I want it to work, its such a good idea, and I like companies who do >>>>> something different and new... they deserved to do well, but I do get >>>>> a sneaking suspicion that... oh I dunno... Keith...hes... like... a >>>>> neighbour? or a friend? or the brother of the friend of your wifes >>>>> sisters Aunt? Cos I dont really see why you wanna defend something yo= u >>>>> haven't got...?? >>>>> Go spend money on it and then you might not be so pleased with it... >>>>> >>>>> Quite alot of people have spent (not) alot of money on it, and are no= t >>>>> happy.... Although they did refund me my money, they were a bit >>>>> difficult about it, AND of course I lost my shipping money there and >>>>> back, thats well over 100 dollars... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> just my 1000 cents.. >>>>> >>>>> M. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark Francombe >>>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>>> http://www.looop.no >>>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.luis-angulo.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> >> > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 10:17:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 169A118349C; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=82/kMF5tDl7bomsGB1exQbd2EbXq6kmnbdCYrUlSHOg=; b=uQjcXeI59guqIUQeLeGB+s85PgjZzoi/HacpkI0bT/EpbGJepwn+ZmifFdgJa13fli 3zUPHtlOEtlE1wmLVsaMg+Z0zCSqh6nuXEgikYbc0Aq7vZHo+P1+s26EMyLrGvnaedOT D32m7db8a//njEZbVR6FO0h2SbAMRD7EjxIqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=FhIIFl7CSukXrEhwMbcmm6mfzBKD1AEfTeDhPveM0lD3sD4fziPv5v6czlJ06SapT9 mg1f2NyKsTtekSL2Kj5ONAJnJV2JISiW/0yhzF4oKnnjsstwAZNs6DQwNNqWdcftMvFk yCR+PvESrEXuD+5NYdb96rctbzFJNlIu+ikgo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:17:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JjiEhVYAc-Q-IO-c6n_hIR_7WpQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know what might happen if you removed the footpedal out of the system entirely, and instead had your girlfriend and/or wife stand close to your rack, fingers poised over buttons (or for software users, fingers poised over key mappings). A simple arrangement of nods and winks could be agreed upon in advance. Left wink for overdub, right wink for insert, double blink for half speed, and long blink for mute? There would be some latency of course, dependent on lighting conditions on stage, and possibly brain power of woman... The softstep does have all those nice lights of course, but possibly, this this might be compensated for, dependent on the hot-ness of the girl, . Im suspecting that the hotter the woman, the less brain power, therefore more latency, but anyway.. its a thought... might need some beta testing... Mark PS, can people please remember to edit their posts, don't just hit reply... Its a big waste of space (Unlike this "on-topic" and incite-full post) This is annoying for those on he list who use the digest... (just Rick I think ha ha) -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 10:19:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0618A18344B; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+RksW77rW6uS3pBm8fT5M//B+wg7wtedSQQ/Tpj936U=; b=xxTzP6i71TGCQPyNvHC1yXopaJEs8R4jxj/GTEzNyo1lwGWJO6Fn/9Ir1NLMGFy3RB EE81FSePiGqbYCy8uY8fOmzOqzdd1XpbGVTF0h+TzwMUsNIDsZy8eyBWU3sE6F726FR4 WwHrePAC6v92/+7CMBCbUcWOGAiVLEYwiwqQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P9GqBVs9fL0qm7uEPuqbv0MUXrwjMK8P/hwMMQM9G8d658+ZeP/6rm1e8iIs10qnIe ctgU7zuLIUjIUTH9EpHV6WNHpbsPTlCAd/m68cREqeNPjUJ9zu2PsLj945ag4gzCEon0 gj2CAdR/nC+8wsWfeNrW05fiAlfefvlIHo3gs= Message-ID: <4D8DBDBD.10307@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:19:41 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> <8CDB97664BA0C9E-1748-2ABFC@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDB97664BA0C9E-1748-2ABFC@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xBh7.A.fR.A3bjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:19:44 +0000 (UTC) nemoguitt@aol.com schrieb: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8tIOR6ACA > > sweet!!!!!!! > Btw, Reyn, will you honor audience requestes for old cheesy computer game music in your performance at the Cologne festival? That alone would be a reason for me to come no matter what! (and prepare for requests for Green Beret and Bruce Lee, and I would volunteer to sing the melody for Bubble Bobble ;) Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 10:40:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D686183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 598437779/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.26.62/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.26.62 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAFfCjU1YbRo+/2dsb2JhbAAMmFfRBoVpBJA9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,247,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="598437779" Message-ID: <4D8DC2B2.9010602@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:40:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track References: <5B6BBC85-ACC9-457A-A559-3EE42A002834@mac.com> <-445767768471689183@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-445767768471689183@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5RHb7B.A.xt.vKcjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:40:47 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Never tried, but I think the beat synch out on an EDP is a click... it only happens once per cycle There's a midi note out every beat, and this could be used to trigger a sound, but that's going to need some midi mojo to get it working. You could check out the Roland RC50 which, i think, will send a click to a separate output. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 12:00:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8E2A183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301140799; bh=+pv8R19Ub3tbEHXDVbnUWvkPBcZctkFubUcOtCHOGJY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0Zsl/KeedczIZmzmNNGeZPebzRaN+Wy62wWRYdx42EG4MdBxrdk5lruQez3wG+CDjAPpfgv0ra/9055gfOSP6BQ0zhI3ZdYFTkbG/3w3jQL9WuaFxqyX+6XkM4oiDpt0k6QEgYQkwi0s4YOP6tINEu+ZfboFaP3C9wQFvDkxXS4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WhZxe4vuHgzT64tp/QW4htPVDaYMY4yW3Gx54PU2NN6i/sYvI7EZgMOIRnoPtCq/qXB+W7faY1cBiCHi9ouUCTtstM7q+vITFfbwc76Oyikw+n32JjOxQOcWyrnhyLc/FM+5X+mgT3pp1YWDHiaUDB5a4bAssn47g60oEQLsNyo=; Message-ID: <151029.4607.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WqZqWUUVM1kWOltw5ZVyHdKEcVLe2byJcCd.qOSs0VW4_wT 6zGCKyKUXla8oT8SdWsbr4BnGPOd6qWjehbE7RudquvIAFQB74.967BwdcBs bp5iuhYZXV0AQyrsJ5h_mJdqpCw3KGnUXe5Hh96MneHaiD1MH5BfCB52RX_A ARP_m.ftQ365zHJNbb6RMIoaClM0Enj_g6DU0H8b9xDCRaCHHHEnzbQq5FWM lD7TQgsJ.wGRfcIv4AGv1G67Nof4Nwcqj4LQJZxMAIX28BVM5epCsHMz.v21 ZoTFCy4ZZhGfuz13u1DDgpPF9_U2pPmyob1mfo8gQ2vk_mTc2AwSa5GVGjnY vUAnVV9Y9_1PMU0_YeybroTSABg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2125201581-1301140798=:4607" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-2125201581-1301140798=:4607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you are looking for trouble with this one Mark; watch out for the feminists with no sense of humor:-) but i like it; I'll find a pair of intelligent and hot girls and make a show of it... Antony ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:17:37 AM Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Does anyone know what might happen if you removed the footpedal out of the system entirely, and instead had your girlfriend and/or wife stand close to your rack, fingers poised over buttons (or for software users, fingers poised over key mappings). A simple arrangement of nods and winks could be agreed upon in advance. Left wink for overdub, right wink for insert, double blink for half speed, and long blink for mute? There would be some latency of course, dependent on lighting conditions on stage, and possibly brain power of woman... The softstep does have all those nice lights of course, but possibly, this this might be compensated for, dependent on the hot-ness of the girl, . Im suspecting that the hotter the woman, the less brain power, therefore more latency, but anyway.. its a thought... might need some beta testing... Mark PS, can people please remember to edit their posts, don't just hit reply... Its a big waste of space (Unlike this "on-topic" and incite-full post) This is annoying for those on he list who use the digest... (just Rick I think ha ha) -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0-2125201581-1301140798=:4607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
you are looking for trouble with this one Mark; watch out for the feminists with no sense of humor:-)

but i like it; I'll find a pair of intelligent and hot girls and make a show of it...

Antony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:17:37 AM
Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep?

Does anyone know what might happen if you removed the footpedal out of
the system entirely, and instead had your girlfriend and/or wife stand
close to your rack, fingers poised over buttons (or for software
users, fingers poised over key mappings).
A simple arrangement of nods and winks could be agreed upon in
advance. Left wink for overdub, right wink for insert, double blink
for half speed, and long blink for mute?

There would be some latency of course,  dependent on lighting
conditions on stage, and possibly brain power of woman... The softstep
does have all those nice lights of course, but possibly, this this
might be compensated for, dependent on the hot-ness of the girl, . Im
suspecting that the hotter the woman, the less brain power, therefore
more latency, but anyway.. its a thought... might need some beta
testing...


Mark


PS, can people please remember to edit their posts, don't just hit
reply... Its a big waste of space (Unlike this "on-topic" and
incite-full post) This is annoying for those on he list who use the
digest... (just Rick I think ha ha)

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe


--0-2125201581-1301140798=:4607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 12:22:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 679F5183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8DDA76.80504@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:22:14 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #729 for March 24, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110324.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #729 March 24, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Beautiful Blue Sky" on O-Town Music. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Markus Reuter and The Bridge and the The Sun Is Just the Sun, But Zero Ohms Mother the Stars They Call the Heavens (DiN) The Tangent Project Glass Block Surface (none) Sensitive Chaos Meditation Meditation Modulation Modulation Manipulation (Ping Things) Manipulation Bruno Sanfilippo The Third Geometry Subliminal Pulse (Spotted Peccary) Travel Trip Alaska Dreaming Ice In Holes (Auraltone Music) Richard Lainhart Four Voices The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Lainhart Timeless The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) Richard Lainhart Lines In Sand The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) Richard Lainhart The Orchestra of The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) the Damned Richard Lainhart Endless The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) Richard Lainhart The Beautiful Blue The Beautiful Blue Sky(O-Town) Sky 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Line of the Horizon" on O-Town Music. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 15:35:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA80C183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L87AxZot+7fw5zLyyHKgrTPVZOxbxQ03ITBsatqW4mg=; b=TpRHWHKjUeAEjcKvciJcXqYHEKPlP6Q8WP8VCNe6XxcIvwnNQxPNdBxrGRMhnbYdHQ jWfYKRg19nZlwLI/t5R8bmu++HjoTCRSqAe3dRGnLeSpcuwPdoLUglggWTx/1l/vwgso QAZs34UjCdDf5bmqJO8J1v2WSAuXvkIR+/Ty8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CLYTWzKagN2oBuKI2iVxalbKMAksUJwJ8s69QkAVd+BiHdkDD8cexAHqPivJPzIjgK LTGX6s5AdD99OWTERQ1uT4kJogdclfxO9QwC/wgHsAaZXxEGPQO18gCzikAJ5RJ2M/5n M2klQ3EnjL21JUSNMWcYZ7kewFWk+T8Gf19pQ= Message-ID: <4D8E07C6.1020007@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:35:34 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Gig Spam (and dream looper considerations): Today's MSSS in half an hour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, in today's MoinSound Studio Sessions, up at 1600 UTC (roughly in 0.5hrs after this message), I'll try and demonstrate why putting record and overdub on the same button is not always a good idea. Apart from that, trombone, and Möbius-based looping. See you there! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 15:48:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FA17183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oIv04XXdEYh2MbYuDfZqeaswiw9+RGe2txZblPR/Lr4= c=1 sm=1 a=4iqTfGk6H6cA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:17 a=0N5omEQQiFEh0-0JcYoA:9 a=OgTATTe9Yhj86sKb_XOia0svbmoA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CNxbVC3+Q4TMjpjfeHDQxw==:117 Message-Id: <675CB8DC-25D5-449F-A3D1-B3E37397EC9C@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6676800E-E917-4EB4-81FD-DC3607FA277F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:48:45 -0700 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> <6676800E-E917-4EB4-81FD-DC3607FA277F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:48:45 +0000 (UTC) ROFLMAO = Rolling on Floor Laughing My Ass Off On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Must send a ROFLMAO to that! :-) > > Translation please > I have no idea what that means... > > -f >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 16:35:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA7F183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oacEoN3qX+GY01iH4B7xMTd8CeZ3+85a6Q+12bZ5wYM=; b=e+rFSCOuxBxAG1vkJEsbJes1vvrrFm47EdiqPMKLy8bEuq6pqkz5I+Sg4kDGgM7pij iaik40Am6bvm7JMuKjoGlXZHM+UuPO0WIhfKkg9psnXGOqbif68F37h69bAIlvXQJQTi X8H7zcCrY1X3gur6UsvtrO6f3lVbkAZxkTNVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qxmj3z/DYeTnWNq0Jfbo47Vtr8Sxm8jtdiuwgfroOkr9WWJK92153bNZALYuTr21fG lNQwfeLz84GnCrxrplE/PcNl+0bXgxWFA3O6ufrg66o2hX3w5mjjEEwHE2r4vtEmyqNg Lwr+ug64Xs8EhwRdwKcr/opKdR6wxUZwtFlGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Reset Electrix Repeater? From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce007225bb8a4049f654ba4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:35:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce007225bb8a4049f654ba4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello! I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Repeater and I'd like to know if it's possible to reset it to Factory settings? is it even possible? If knows how to do this I'd be very grateful. Thank you very much in advance, Andy --000e0ce007225bb8a4049f654ba4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Hello!

=A0I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Re= peater and I'd like to know if it's possible to reset it to Factory= settings? is it even possible?

=A0If knows how to do this I'd b= e very grateful.

=A0Thank you very much in advance,

=A0Andy
--000e0ce007225bb8a4049f654ba4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 16:35:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2299D18349F; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BRIX Bknx BzKI DUa4 DgD0 Ff9x FnZC GI9Y G711 HVVj IXv3 Iope IwCE JEcE KYPw K2xd;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{D023B143-04C5-4670-8EF1-F885A2E00DF6};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:34:51 GMT;aQBuAG4AbwB2AGEAdABpAHYAZQAgAGMAbwBuAHQAcgBvAGwAbABlAHIAcwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {D023B143-04C5-4670-8EF1-F885A2E00DF6} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: innovative controllers Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:34:51 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: innovative controllers Thread-Index: AcvrnxcRIlnqTs2MRXWvBy9SBHZJnwANBtfw References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <55AE28E0-8135-409F-91FF-5520829BA3F7@reyn.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2011 16:35:29.0661 (UTC) FILETIME=[D18EBAD0:01CBEBD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Mark wrote something like: Instead, stand close to your girlfriend and/or wife's rack....push buttons....etc Man you are brave getting your GF and your wife's racks in the same room at the same time!!! Or better idea, we all have a few gold teeth right, we could get Andy Butler to wire us up so that certain tooth clicks do certain commands, then we can probably get radio on our teeth too, add that also. Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 17:12:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E183183456; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wTocn6/5PQfD2pL8BwLZ5gH+GJMuR+sXSmRjbZOMKW4=; b=BZ2ptZanF7mUYlpuZC4WIeM8uopW3gWNogByIZES72i9aPfohjDRhZmTlosVIL2Auv V040QJG28Hju/GS8gyoXBOg/9p98Mn417e89+QYI9n+P4+E8p8CbeRGoqRAQgYrGgmQR jOk6YyEdqz7KzlQgfCaC+FI7lGPyM5dbzJcTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=U3CuMS1BxKZbFORbLS7Ci9KBHkzdRkyut/o/kXVWUdW78E7ww+RL7a7RK4anocRdz6 dGJU9fSurH5j1fJi1PVWz0lqmMN362wguKv8wmipnOJRHv+oBz4eWwSk90asr0tCkvGT ytSmdrbdnlOc5oUY7VkwyOLu9CyccC4Ozic94= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:12:27 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd70778a90a94049f65d02f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:12:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd70778a90a94049f65d02f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i just skimmed the manuals and couldn't find anything. you may need to reinstall the software sim On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, andy soto wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Repeater and I'd like to know > if it's possible to reset it to Factory settings? is it even possible? > > If knows how to do this I'd be very grateful. > > Thank you very much in advance, > > Andy > --000e0cd70778a90a94049f65d02f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just skimmed the manuals and couldn't find anything. you may need to = reinstall the software

sim

On Sat,= Mar 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com> wrote:=

=A0Hello!
=
=A0I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Repeater and I'= d like to know if it's possible to reset it to Factory settings? is it = even possible?

=A0If knows how to do this I'd be very grateful.

=A0Thank you very much in advance,

=A0An= dy

--000e0cd70778a90a94049f65d02f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 17:46:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A671F183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8E2651.5060109@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:45:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track References: <7C990897-00E1-49F2-9D24-EDEB7B817B2B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <7C990897-00E1-49F2-9D24-EDEB7B817B2B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 17:46:04 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Daniel Thomas wrote: >> One thought would be to use a stereo looper and let one channel be the "cue" track (routed as desired, maybe select channel for recording with an A/B switch) and the other channel for the loops. > For that matter, you could just use an outboard mixer to split the audio mix off to the drummer. But this does not get at Billy's desire to hear the tempo before the first loop is created. I don't mean to ignore Bill's specific request, but I have an approach that might be more helpful and musical in the long run for he and his/her drummer: from my experience in performances and studio work you have to live with the loop you create whether a click track guides you initially or not. This means the drummer has to live with that loop as well and play to all of it's timing idiosyncracies and slight inaccuracies. In fact, a really good drummer who is able to 'breathe' with a slightly innacurate loop can make a loop sound VASTLY better. This means for the music to be really good, the drummer has to play to the loop and NOT the click track. I've been in many a recording session where the musicians struggled to play to a click track that wasn't perfectly aligned with the initial rhythm tracks of a song. Invariably, and usually after a lot of consternation and hand wringing the click is jettisoned in favor of everybody doing what should be done in the first place anyway: playing to the timing idiosyncracies of the initial loop and/or rerecording that loop. To be the best musician one can be, I would advise that you practice your brains out to click tracks when you are practicing without a drummer (to increase your own rhythmic accuracy) but eschew them for the show itself and let your drummer hear the actual loop so that he/she can play to it accurately and musically. Towards that end, I have a very low tech solution for your drummers' monitoring. Buy yourself a high quality y-chord that has a mono 1/4" cable male on one side and two mono 1/4" females on the other side and run your looper to your amplification and to a little practise amp set up as high as the drummers hihat. For myself, as an real time accompanist to a looping instrumentalist, the most important thing is to hear the loop loudly enough to play accurately (and relaxedly) to it. In such a situation, my biggest problem is when other loopers, especially guitarists, layer loops down in one timbral range and then to solo close to that range so that timbral masking occurs. That is just horribly difficult to hear in a gig. So my last advice is to make sure that you are at least an octave away from your loop when you play over it so that everyone can hear the timing of the loop. Either that, or make sure that your processing on the loop is really very distinctive from the playing on top (make one dry and one verbed, or one telephone eq-d and the other naturally eq-d, etc.) Or............purchase a more sophisticated looper (software or hardware) that allows you Alt outs so that you can send just the initial loop to the drummer. I hope that's helpful. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 18:20:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BDA4183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Sender: Catch All Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_-_Mancing_Dolecules?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:20:23 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <574AAAEC-1739-43E3-AFE8-A998CFAE17E3@mancingdolecules.com> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks a lot guys, glad you like it :) ! Cheers, Rapha=EBl Le 25 mars 2011 =E0 09:57, Loopers Delight a =E9crit : > Yeh, it's a great tool. Very well made.. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Reyn >=20 > www.reyn.net >=20 > On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 >> Hi Rapha=EBl, >>=20 >> Fantastic work..! I have ordered an iPod touch 4th gen and an Apogee = "Jam" a/d converter.. your app will be my fist purchase... looking = forward to it. >>=20 >> -Chuck Zwicky >>=20 >>> Hi Everyone ! >>>=20 >>> I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper >>> lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL, >>> which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an >>> iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together >>> as an app called Everyday Looper. >>>=20 >>> First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not >>> being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great >>> information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, = tempo, >>> envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it >>> in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these >>> infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation = of >>> the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper >>> displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in = full >>> screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space. >>>=20 >>> Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real = knobs, >>> buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an >>> iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the >>> first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go >>> for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two >>> fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to >>> change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination = to >>> merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with >>> audio. >>>=20 >>> And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you = will >>> find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path = and >>> final mix path, and quantized to loop recording. >>>=20 >>> As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of = course >>> all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use >>> feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop = track. >>> The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are >>> vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so >>> is the looper too. At least for now ^^. >>>=20 >>> Here is my website if you want more precise information, = screenshots, >>> videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the = direct >>> link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper . >>>=20 >>> The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=A4/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 = update >>> which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=A4/3=A3). = But I >>> would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, = if >>> you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write >>> me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I >>> will happily send you one if their is some left. >>>=20 >>> Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me = questions >>> if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read = it >>> regularly :). >>>=20 >>> Cheers ! >>>=20 >>> Rapha=EBl >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >>=20 >> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>=20 >> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 18:20:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 147F01834A1; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FUFUezvdyPDBAFbolbJdwtDAycdfpueXRJB1wTn6ZuI=; b=l33l5V3MJuEmVLm01ovIAuDnRV70T4gK2YHdMjc05JAxvcf8ATycUCYfo0xWQwCldg gWAe2/ExsSumW6JjCWAeReMr0XoHb9jdSsQd+7BYrR6BXe+7ckXVd6X10Da9BSyvdboS /nbcfqqXs/YK6WBADhZYKm4SSaz3OPd0auMIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p5qtNkIj5Hs95H9/xv1ObGaoTTCiwqyL3KKyuQslO3GsHuJu6tmVX9oM/TlXTD3ES4 v2Ben6BnAurTDI/JctpzvPXFk80Gs44jwI7yercdWK6RfMiZrHsA8jeMwdsVGjpDhKsL LcsmfreEpJH3QbrqVtptU6EgfIgSIXQQO4l0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:20:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00261883c092674f90049f66c41e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:20:39 +0000 (UTC) --00261883c092674f90049f66c41e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's what I did and I solved the problem, thank you! If anyone is in need of the latest repeater OS let me know! Andy On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > i just skimmed the manuals and couldn't find anything. you may need to > reinstall the software > > sim > > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, andy soto wrote: > >> >> Hello! >> >> I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Repeater and I'd like to >> know if it's possible to reset it to Factory settings? is it even possible? >> >> If knows how to do this I'd be very grateful. >> >> Thank you very much in advance, >> >> Andy >> > > --00261883c092674f90049f66c41e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0That's what I did and I solved the problem, thank you!

= =A0If anyone is in need of the latest repeater OS let me know!

=A0An= dy


On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:12 PM, S= imeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
i just skimmed th= e manuals and couldn't find anything. you may need to reinstall the sof= tware

sim


On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM, andy soto <musicalmexicana@gma= il.com> wrote:

=A0Hello!
=
=A0I'm having some trouble with my old Electrix Repeater and I'= d like to know if it's possible to reset it to Factory settings? is it = even possible?

=A0If knows how to do this I'd be very grateful.

=A0Thank you very much in advance,

=A0An= dy


--00261883c092674f90049f66c41e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 18:40:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447B9183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 11:40:33 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: innovative controllers References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1UZSCD.A.MxD.rMjjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:40:43 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Mark wrote something like: > > Instead, stand close to your girlfriend and/or wife's rack....push > buttons....etc > > > Man you are brave getting your GF and your wife's racks in the same room > at the same time!!! And now I will translate these sentences into non-gender exclusive loop language for the 'hard of PC-ing". "Instead, stand close to your boyfriend and/or husbands' package.......push buttons......etc. "Person, you are brave getting your BF and your hubby's package in the same room at the same time!!!!" rick (with smiles and tongue firmly in cheek) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 19:14:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56371183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=md6fbMpwORYNkz6PjXW8Hvv+ADpoOS/n3DBUJhuFr18=; b=avT0c60mui2Gtdbl5y8Xr/6papCZ1GQ81v9s/fVg0xjsOs14oo60q2s6VSL09N/IQM LeZQWGZnuoZvIvmQ2hGP/oWbaWg+BiuQAx9HE/VUUoNFDx63wd79iEx3hlt8dUy9g0qV 7j2cqqk93rBa2zgJDgvF7/xy9tFswQO+HXl7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LsQ1M68obEFck0F3rHtXaky3GVP+X+2OL45KHXCvP/Sank7q2tJdYorR2iemIjC/z2 Q1/k7lnIwV5pPRkOSBX7Manuk05/mB8A6ECdMFoALv9zN/vbu7XpPM8/Ijt2lBrAEiJJ ZFah/ATbp+ZRgOb1ErQhN1yF6kuWIezdzsd84= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:13:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT video software for live input From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others for this suggestion!) ... It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for CamTwist! Here's the URL: http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=3DCamTwist Have fun. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send = the > audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am > not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here fo= r > that :) > > j > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it >> with multiple computers... >> >> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that >> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example >> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at >> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? >> >> But running music software as well?? >> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery >> walk is honored but burnt... >> >> M >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, =A0 wrote: >> > hey, >> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live >> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming fro= m >> > the >> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various >> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? >> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and >> > projecting it >> > on a screen all at the same time:-) >> > April 2nd by the way:-) >> > Antony Hequet >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 20:07:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78FBE183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 915 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:07:36 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qyUSAyc82z9xLljZQc9ErY9Tl2GSEfqK/XYZS35I9d8= c=1 sm=0 a=pso/Uqamk+lxqB+YLhskoQ==:17 a=MotFZId2AAAA:8 a=uQHP0zDP_-l8ibDWrFUA:9 a=4k0jViC2C9LvFMZF5WiwCBng0ekA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0WdBxSvFi4gOKmdHYLkA:9 a=rRscO8sOtTDTCByyCPcA:7 a=9EIfRJbyl2bjL7AXqAyIiYy_XgYA:4 a=pso/Uqamk+lxqB+YLhskoQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.177.15.165 From: Victor Eijkhout Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20-739393575 Subject: State of the RC-50 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:52:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5AA246F8-4655-4FC0-B41E-E208B1C00398@eijkhout.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:07:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20-739393575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just bought an RC-50, and having fun with it = (http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/thursday.mp3). Now I hear that the RC-30 is coming out, but it still sounds like no = match for the RC-50. Which is 5 years old?! Has anyone heard rumours about updates to the RC-50? Is there another = looper that's obviously better? Has to have multiple independent loops, = of independent length and starting point (so the 8080 is out). What I see wrong with the RC-50 is: 1/ no separate outs for the three phrases 2/ no effect send-return 3/ no feedback control. For the rest I think it's majorly awesome. Victor. --Apple-Mail-20-739393575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I just bought an RC-50, and having fun with it (http://www.eijkhout.net/mp3s/loop/thursday.mp3).

Now I hear that the RC-30 is coming out, but it still sounds like no match for the RC-50. Which is 5 years old?!

Has anyone heard rumours about updates to the RC-50? Is there another looper that's obviously better? Has to have multiple independent loops, of independent length and starting point (so the 8080 is out).

What I see wrong with the RC-50 is:
1/ no separate outs for the three phrases
2/ no effect send-return
3/ no feedback control.

For the rest I think it's majorly awesome.

Victor.

--Apple-Mail-20-739393575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 20:23:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE3AE183449; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OKndSyngSZMIZNErBiUcRxVh2a/6f4SHAxDM9pT1kwA=; b=hFIc6efVsyxfp3yPKEvJCDHCykvKNk36VSWpc/qWSOPaCcxVRl1pDrYZhOD1UM6ra1 0ALrHbNXbele9Acid0d4uJ0UlpcJTihJKUekWI1nhoF7QnLhZctQ1cQncyJb1IVTD0q4 Vd/YdjuFkMwIvGWkJBF6QLkJyWqRRCHt5cPts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xNeyZoF0LI6tfRAVyRWh0/bbAxeoRsVL1webblnXPj5ZHf55lOBtCIA+SPzeqo1aAn drOaKwIwkLr1Sj3+WyUUxCaRTSwBfEpozzwwJS0c59q0GjGQr5Libn0g73pItY1Qz6pv e78mIbMIxrAV1dBD8TC001RuCziXrzpAT8N1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:23:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: innovative controllers From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:23:40 +0000 (UTC) syncing is all about knowing who will be the right master and who will be the right slave a good controller will usually control good lookin racks as well, all you have to do is send the right messages any thoughts Mark? On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> >> Mark wrote something like: >> >> Instead, stand close to your girlfriend and/or wife's rack....push >> buttons....etc >> >> >> Man you are brave getting your GF and your wife's racks in the same room >> at the same time!!! > > And now I will translate these sentences into non-gender exclusive loop > language for > the 'hard of PC-ing". > > "Instead, stand close to your boyfriend and/or husbands' package.......pu= sh > buttons......etc. > "Person, =A0you are brave getting your BF and your hubby's package in the= same > room > at the same time!!!!" > > > rick (with smiles and tongue firmly in cheek) > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 20:39:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA54C183449; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vV840NVzoHGtGgnMIm8qShjC80zYM37jV7/bQv+34hM=; b=B1RMADFv36jhRis3/NHzUtpGaPyI73Byyd8updqTD52be0oWcZObT1WyC9CN1aFgLT +yml2Q+a05UAoasnQtJGAjXwSn8tJpBydDNyIyC6eQ/i8/km6uySzGyBdA5YqwzU/5kR MEIiBm0WIZe8VKLxJpVCSmOy5r3ZoeN6JsY68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=TuFiNuqcjnL6y3m1kbHakQC2Qf5U7nrY14UfzMYWY+biroL8Wuc4tTjD8Q1LAnqmfk 4fkyCbU7EQlhB5MTyToQo/DJev5dmapsvpTr9KxCisj9FK2X49ML+O99JdRZn/EXO2NZ 8m9Copo7KK+foVRroeAjvcgTSdqYGYQVs7Ii8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:38:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VJjbcAepTsIjZhih7nSVH7QoixA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper that spits out separate click track To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Often forgotten, but the good ole Repeater can send its click track out of the effects send out... m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 20:43:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB326183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1IyXnCeEJC9zQmjsIwVzu4iUTkyv6aLxbOYA/QlR6X8=; b=AybkbrjdGAvmG9CHZ/+cfo6u/yYqB2mrig0QZSRJi3VcrD18C/pb2voGSU0k+G8ahI 4tZJGc9QLFG5lB2KmQRQpNZJv8Y94J7r5YG+84phnKuDpjF++RfXnyS40XnF/MEmDwYE Z3h3+MMGPyUh4Sou2PQgiZgt84tFXi3n5HmHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=M/3Mk0IGOFYJOm8K7fxNMiulMZU87V70XQCl1GUcaFoHWYNoOyQxKLRBhIbJk1/a8q Jo/9P+fwv9YWrv/g/36l6/rho6Wh/IkZPqeDVqOTh5Hd6T70fqmQnfgXtm8W0ObbND6R S3YrsnteYTYkBiydExTVBsorpT6dNK2axablY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:43:26 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Av8pGVpdh7lZe-ldNhc80FEW1js Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Nothing later than 2-10b04 I suppose? I have run into this before, Its very silly that there doesnt appear to be a RESET function. I was doing some wild sequencing things and accidentally sent some odd CC commands.. I muted 2 tracks.. but didnt realise... Weeks later I thought it was broken.. and searched for ages for a reset function... In the end I figured it out... M On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, andy soto wrot= e: > > =A0That's what I did and I solved the problem, thank you! > > =A0If anyone is in need of the latest repeater OS let me know! > > =A0Andy > --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 21:03:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95E3A183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vHhSkE1Q+KAw+n80zqSMOV0tIEZetdBEiODJunB7YsU=; b=dvEsXlxMEqQ76BIVaoMM5QVqqdk9cF08vwk/02yRtCd/eYB3/rAIYSeyfoG0LqqHZC VoZAHIyOw08n3hSwLaoW13Yd/XdFRN6cUs2i9b1z7e1gviLX3724roeD02WtO7dzE/so PLXqztE8FPdK4l5JpXR7CGNaK9qc/h23KnTgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=RXi53Ueuf6z/AqbQOMYRgN/tcshU5ZkWUJuOmE9QEYrJ6B598I69BZiTqvnTxdbH9K HkR4YbcN10dNQdGRCoU8MjMUTBihA/qrfygvWPr0rIFTSMBcB44CFXM33uzA/j/76+cv 5jlghGtwErOuIycPe3iqGulxT13GROYYwJybw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:02:46 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: y-XcrQ-u6tivlOYIHYU0ZvqrFLA Message-ID: Subject: Re: innovative controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:03:07 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > syncing is all about knowing who will be the right master and who will > be the right slave > a good controller will usually control good lookin racks as well, all > you have to do is send the right messages > any thoughts Mark? Indeed I do Luis, but none of them repeatable in polite company... Furthermore I would like to apologize for the non politically correct appearance of my previous comment. Neither was it my intention to offend, nor to not offend, as offinsivity, if such a word wee to exist was far from my intention, humour, being my only muse... However, I can see that maybe it was insensitive to those testicularly challenged among us, but believe that despite the one-sidedness of my obviosly flawed and technically unfeasable, however possibly less environmentally un-friendly approach to loop manipulation "sans footpedal", I do believe that with a minimum of alteration, the similar approach could be quite effective for the female (can I say female?) Lady Looper... Imagine if you will our Zoe, directing a posse of oiled muscular gentlemen as they press buttons and change buttons at her feet. A quick flick of the Cello Bow and "thwack" ... the loops stop dead, the lights dim and she takes her bow, her minions scurrying into the shadows... ...or Little Gordius... whatever... -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 21:33:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 776A718349D; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=TRimySbOKcOFmSN4GEeJhJarWcoIZcNnJh6ISVV8Zvs=; b=l+ZMlg8sBMfU3IYEIakHCEXPBNm7pgW54fI8pP8mjzGRudtPysmAcOR+Xi3SChJAPB ZmviaIX4Bfolw0VzvYXXdFcjQEuUsdBJOgJNyO3m9agL8xwSt8qCi1UPb/5UW3/JWm1R MMZY5ttuv7aqhLjlB15UZ23hJ5jMronPTFZiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=m+F+oHxVZXe19p/iEhSWbJN/Zv7dntVQFG8jOcd7DchwQiJrCp+M1Za70gavNROf7M HO0kmjlu5pkEn6mv1C8yaIbWL9QWgXqIM5nzZnm0h0IyiE6R/7YEpFUitjQMm2sHrG9c 80kAqRZK6PNPJDGMn5NlywIYdRoOuxugZlBN0= References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <4D8C66A3.70301@tiscali.co.uk> <8E974FFF-808C-4E87-BF66-AEA26D2A9064@gmail.com> <6676800E-E917-4EB4-81FD-DC3607FA277F@gmail.com> <675CB8DC-25D5-449F-A3D1-B3E37397EC9C@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <675CB8DC-25D5-449F-A3D1-B3E37397EC9C@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: does anyone really use Softstep? Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:33:14 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 21:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Ted Il giorno 26/mar/2011, alle ore 16:48, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn ha scritto: > ROFLMAO =3D Rolling on Floor Laughing My Ass Off >=20 > On Mar 25, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Fabio_A wrote: >=20 >> Per Boysen wrote: >>=20 >>> Must send a ROFLMAO to that! :-) >>=20 >> Translation please >> I have no idea what that means... >>=20 >> -f >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 26 22:55:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F693183486; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g0cVvMbZvFX6AC5/PfgZgFIxNL+6USj2+vDwqmdgVBA=; b=j7jq1O2x41omuShenRwGIhXEOzrvoLzKOwKTMlzl0wuI5XsGjt7YQsjQ80Y6EEEHDV nGG5MXXP2GPGp/987LjYTiicZvc5bqnatamMhzinvBQd75I68HZY3Vm9n6UjdBUpl5T+ B2M2JsCk0tEejHe0rQER0ENr8EprpUQzOV67E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nTgjBH+Jq5Cv7zfZ0Yv+BSqT47zZan2+HnUuNC0lLQ3YeBWYQzY5wT4wk0G3v0D4DS sAjAFRNlgmBzotjam1IVmpi2ywV3LViBtqw0bbHsoCfwnwWB0usIb/XRJSPglvVirjS3 4sx+AUhW9sWlUSRx1ZIAnM6MPWE9KmYmTCkRQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:55:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce00722c873ec049f6a9bb8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:55:37 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce00722c873ec049f6a9bb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, 2-10b04 is the last thing we heard from electrix... Nice machine though, a bit outdated now, I still remember how we were all exited when it was about to come out! Andy On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:43 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Nothing later than 2-10b04 I suppose? > > I have run into this before, Its very silly that there doesnt appear > to be a RESET function. > > I was doing some wild sequencing things and accidentally sent some odd > CC commands.. I muted 2 tracks.. but didnt realise... Weeks later I > thought it was broken.. and searched for ages for a reset function... > In the end I figured it out... > M > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, andy soto > wrote: > > > > That's what I did and I solved the problem, thank you! > > > > If anyone is in need of the latest repeater OS let me know! > > > > Andy > > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > --000e0ce00722c873ec049f6a9bb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0Yeah, 2-10b04 is the last thing we heard from electrix...

=A0= Nice machine though, a bit outdated now, I still remember how we were all e= xited when it was about to come out!

=A0Andy

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:43 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
Nothing later than 2-10b04 I suppose?

I have run into this before, Its very silly that there doesnt appear
to be a RESET function.

I was doing some wild sequencing things and accidentally sent some odd
CC commands.. I muted 2 tracks.. but didnt realise... Weeks later I
thought it was broken.. and searched for ages for a reset function...
In the end I figured it out...
M

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:20 PM, andy soto <musicalmexicana@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =A0That's what I did and I solved the problem, thank you!
>
> =A0If anyone is in need of the latest repeater OS let me know!
>
> =A0Andy
>


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe


--000e0ce00722c873ec049f6a9bb8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 00:31:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F9E183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Hqqi+KSqu58LB+VZCdFbNREEJYJZS/Kjz6phejMyS0Q=; b=AjKca3EBnDgeNXNU7dIAGPmQmrfM7hafA5RtM9DIHlf+QkH6vRddFKtIEBvsXYYW7z NsNLyOhoNwZBq0nDXXQvmogadYpf/hikgt1zVfb75eDbWcB8MSTcqZ6UPXrAGNyGVTzW 5CwXF61gpZla0f192c4jzcl2mD7GV7VljoN30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=blvkB7zBJuP8Kx/1cZGzG9d6eECI1KPvW1f+uwBc1s6TbC2ntwR6sGr8qUO4k2XIa5 MjHTW8SV6udCl9XMIfD6kcfiWPqqAK4XXnTbE0uxO0Hj9Lnq5c6tLVtVCy1ZXO/Vir93 XtI37RxfeTMJEY55ZJV4bJ8VTsU7NbFvwAjCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 01:31:30 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: z6fvXodHo4np1leMSezFoQhj75o Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:31:51 +0000 (UTC) > Nice machine though, a bit outdated now, I still remember how we were all > exited when it was about to come out! Out-dated??? Outside NOW man!! Well OK... Its funny, I don't think of it as being outdated at all!!! In the same way as I dont really think of the 2 Revox Enotronics thing as being outdated, or a wah wah, or the missionary position... well OK I havnt done THAT in a while... The repeater seems lacking in Control, by todays standards, thats true. It was designed to operate pretty much all from a 3 button footswitch, and front panel manipulation. But I just cant take it out of my rig... having a bank of pedals sending tuning info to the pitch function, making delays that come back pitched, popping in and out of midi synch triming the loop down, recording , moving the trim points, recording more, and expanding out, mixing 4 tracks... Its why I removed 4 tracks in Mobius, to try to get that 'peater feel.. but no... But MY GOD... if only they would release the OS for open source dev... fuck... then Id be a happy man... Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 00:56:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC26183456; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-26_06:2011-03-25,2011-03-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103260133 References: In-reply-to: Message-id: <9B90EB35-5570-4E28-8132-C07DB125CD1D@mac.com> Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8F190) From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Reset Electrix Repeater? Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:56:41 -0400 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) I still love and use repetr for some if it's idiosyncratic features Ah but the preamps stink. Not alot of headroom before clipping and gnarly noise floor Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2011, at 8:31 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Nice machine though, a bit outdated now, I still remember how we were all >> exited when it was about to come out! > > Out-dated??? Outside NOW man!! > Well OK... > Its funny, I don't think of it as being outdated at all!!! > In the same way as I dont really think of the 2 Revox Enotronics thing > as being outdated, or a wah wah, or the missionary position... well OK > I havnt done THAT in a while... > The repeater seems lacking in Control, by todays standards, thats > true. It was designed to operate pretty much all from a 3 button > footswitch, and front panel manipulation. But I just cant take it out > of my rig... having a bank of pedals sending tuning info to the pitch > function, making delays that come back pitched, popping in and out of > midi synch triming the loop down, recording , moving the trim points, > recording more, and expanding out, mixing 4 tracks... Its why I > removed 4 tracks in Mobius, to try to get that 'peater feel.. but > no... > > But MY GOD... if only they would release the OS for open source dev... > fuck... then Id be a happy man... > > Mark > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 05:14:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41F81183456; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fm2ZBohfmOjH8ssgGWobyUtJjmszkfqXN/ixUI+a6XU=; b=FDIVx96lVOX5NeWIljlDpEb0qnJ/ScXTM6hwovcnaZkUsrpZp6c41SJmZvgo8GNCsZ bIVTJHp7JB8H1i0Yc5jJyjEGpxhNw88aLNjYuOlTAwSSZxDJlZ7f4IkhfMxcwxBsurNe tpV+XVhRGRZVUwSvX0gAwnMgzQTGFFGfF22DY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EJ8w3cEnZWC/pM09XHsXRhSjcjUxp7Y2tjbP+URWKcN0v7ip8ZDao0ApyKwTWzeKDz DC5evedDWOkrZ9kluzjejRWgQuorLkWaarKGT1ik48QURjAWPzydiZD/amR+X6CFJByx +JZPAg87Bckocdlo/11blNTToiAdMk/CmWY0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D8DBDBD.10307@googlemail.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> <8CDB97664BA0C9E-1748-2ABFC@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> <4D8DBDBD.10307@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8ef2f2b92c049f6fe52c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:14:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8ef2f2b92c049f6fe52c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice! I liked this one a lot! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba6e8ef2f2b92c049f6fe52c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice! I liked this one a lot!
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--90e6ba6e8ef2f2b92c049f6fe52c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 06:09:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23C9A183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-776285231 From: Revfever Subject: Dickie Landry '15 Saxophones' now available again Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:07:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:09:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-776285231 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Alert: '15 Saxophones' by Dickie Landry has now been reissued on *both* CD and LP! (Unseen Worlds Records) It was originally released in 1977 and has never previously been reissued to my knowledge. It is now available from a few discerning online sales places. (FE, etc...) I've placed an order for a copy. I'm psyched! I've not heard this in YEARS but I have always remembered it. It is definitely LOOP CITY! And, by a true EARLY pioneer of loopage. Enjoy! Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR --Apple-Mail-3-776285231 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Alert: '15 Saxophones' by Dickie Landry has now been reissued on *both* CD and LP! (Unseen Worlds Records)  It was originally released in 1977 and has never previously been reissued to my knowledge.  It is now available from a few discerning online sales places. (FE, etc...) I've placed an order for a copy.  I'm psyched!  I've not heard this in YEARS
but I have always remembered it.  It is definitely LOOP CITY!  And, by a true EARLY pioneer of loopage. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR
--Apple-Mail-3-776285231-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 06:49:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1EB5183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301208564; bh=TUjnUnW7jlIJqVS4GesE5WR7WrpVJIJXSbpomsh181w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W9H0LTPM3QH92y24gbLObp1NDMGQi95jm0xkAwynGsksK84sAchVR+hP7HF1f2C7VODVB7bXVNNNTmkDMB1qNsSbDt4HOVdczClMgL38bNvloMUlMus4UraAh8/+TdJWLe32PkJuXT98n+ggEc9I75dhMGzgTp9GzvQ9yuqIfWo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x97p9mKqETymE7AOETo+jcEAwc6avgMAYyY35Y6jiQET8CeZBNIYIW0ACS1ff1ua1lmKcn2Y+2DNQ9LiitD5V+7T8bTnQ8ihMJXfeCMxApuU0QJu6Bc24xOu23/VLE6L7pmkLS/2n5q5Oc5zxOqD4RiDvRcTAoM847giR/FVbQU=; Message-ID: <753851.31315.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XHOsgMMVM1nsDz4Or.GyJyFk6_s3khCcdONlcuFjbEjmD2J cY9CoLcNiCcLsvy4EZP1Lx9j2UJmSJqV_aj4ZxpsbULbSVNXQsMmIue..54U jnuExE4hoE0r4JWgSU5a2JU8HF8zngZqlfI5UvWyi3M8.qg4hkeEcq9kK8ZI biQuREotNcq1a4vsyBRJBixGQp87DoMmoJHpOFxvASKn._483JBBvGh4_yk2 xYnlEJh.z0mOv0x.nlii1RUy9bBrDUgPzioXiEiuVUn5nvECgrOwlrCO36vr HNBOAvQPda18gh9T1owH3B0pOtht.r3CxeB3.GenUZ0.0ydXIlVcvyxhJmrN DNBRaYGZhjtvC.W0JXK0uJTo3ooeXdMZYIqhHe3iueX9JZ_Razbnt7g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Live Looper mistery To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-181392809-1301208564=:31315" Resent-Message-ID: <99_ds.A.MoD.33tjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:49:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-181392809-1301208564=:31315 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am must be a little thick... I keep hearing about the Looper in Live but I have not found this beast in Live 8. Where is it, do you have to purchase it extra. I have the full version of Live with all the instruments and what not. And I am not refering to Mobius which i downloaded to test it... ANtony Hequet poet composer numbskull ________________________________ From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:13:59 PM Subject: Re: OT video software for live input On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others for this suggestion!) ... It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for CamTwist! Here's the URL: http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist Have fun. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send the > audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am > not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for > that :) > > j > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it >> with multiple computers... >> >> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that >> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example >> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at >> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? >> >> But running music software as well?? >> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery >> walk is honored but burnt... >> >> M >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: >> > hey, >> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live >> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from >> > the >> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various >> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? >> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and >> > projecting it >> > on a screen all at the same time:-) >> > April 2nd by the way:-) >> > Antony Hequet >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe > > --0-181392809-1301208564=:31315 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am must be a little thick...
I keep hearing about the Looper in Live but I have not found this beast in Live 8. Where is it, do you have to purchase it extra. I have the full version of Live with all the instruments and what not. And I am not refering to Mobius which i downloaded to test it...

ANtony Hequet
poet composer numbskull 

From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:13:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT video software for live input

On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others
for this suggestion!) ...

It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and
PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream
of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running
CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache
was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to
the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for
CamTwist!

Here's the URL:

http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist

Have fun.

Best,
Dennis

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
> One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send the
> audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am
> not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for
> that :)
>
> j
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it
>> with multiple computers...
>>
>> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that
>> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example
>> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at
>> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?
>>
>> But running music software as well??
>> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
>> walk is honored but burnt...
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > hey,
>> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live
>> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from
>> > the
>> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various
>> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?
>> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and
>> > projecting it
>> > on a screen all at the same time:-)
>> > April 2nd by the way:-)
>> > Antony Hequet
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>
>


--0-181392809-1301208564=:31315-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 07:05:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37A87183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jbIIW0tXLGye+8HLuZeW0GWNxQhqvXhLm8bcz3II5lM=; b=aQwm3axzG3h9GPuAbev+ZdxAG8EbAiYsGlHIp8N2kuqn3hMp9SlQ6rhG+YLaIl8VDR g5nH5pwvz4gwh0cEm1tSPuHvyGcjOvNFPycUhy7nzO1loVifbQkfAu3TIPHVfCHf62MY WrsufesrLwbTZIb8PwPgWtfnXqzZlDvU148bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kuaFqu+zaOW7+Oa2XXlhnvUXSn67IIkYqdzG/DqwDGTDeMe2hyA49Bii/c5YNmSJd9 Qk7z5FuYnZpqOYYE6JXJlEmr17y6b713sMrcM8y40pkIIF9Ygpol8ueWUi7iOB3n00tt XRibUXArbiq0rvf2UIEL3onqF1PbdAGaCkI3w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <753851.31315.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <753851.31315.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:05:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looper mistery From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-bZi4B.A.M3D.iGujNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:05:06 +0000 (UTC) You can find it in the Audio Effects folder in the Live browser. Just drag it to a track! Akraf On 3/27/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I am must be a little thick... > I keep hearing about the Looper in Live but I have not found this beast in > Live > 8. Where is it, do you have to purchase it extra. I have the full version of > Live with all the instruments and what not. And I am not refering to Mobius > which i downloaded to test it... > > ANtony Hequet > poet composer numbskull > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis Moser > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:13:59 PM > Subject: Re: OT video software for live input > > On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others > for this suggestion!) ... > > It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and > PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream > of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running > CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache > was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to > the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for > CamTwist! > > Here's the URL: > > http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist > > Have fun. > > Best, > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send >> the >> audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am >> not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for >> that :) >> >> j >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >>> >>> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it >>> with multiple computers... >>> >>> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that >>> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example >>> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at >>> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? >>> >>> But running music software as well?? >>> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery >>> walk is honored but burnt... >>> >>> M >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: >>> > hey, >>> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live >>> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from >>> > the >>> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various >>> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? >>> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and >>> > projecting it >>> > on a screen all at the same time:-) >>> > April 2nd by the way:-) >>> > Antony Hequet >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 07:09:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDF6B183449; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301209749; bh=iRmXBiub1004C2NkMtCA/KLmDtZBA6MpdDZ/H8oOKUQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zvVGemmczA7pKbT/aFSSjxTzDyrMlq0QX1cgtMEd7P6wQEubgaCApmmGOT0BtVTuS8u0Vd3eCPlyPQP0nfIuecul4YFU31HC5gRW6lei/twr1+e8pLOKJJ5v21BW/uA8xuYjiMxGUrUwaiUdDACsYFu02XOTQgG2bw6M2w3qh7A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=baP9MjVzv3ZqvzqOp4wzIAQOXavyMejuNAVkbs7OMr+pvgGVl6YCWI0jzn6CIq+P3bYADvLdaTAqlWz4Dzi5O13w1JPXlO/voQjOKIJoNZUwMG8Xf4AZi3GIKUeLX6/XaYve4pCbZYuBYhbkPm5Hk4SN7uV7sRvHfoahS5DB7zQ=; Message-ID: <550125.39943.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4dq54YAVM1laOZ8nsdI3f0dOTZuTspAVfQXv0v08zNTROIT HcqHheIgaAhXsp6zvQIzbqchcIK30eRnf5ybg1Krj_03FOXXaFNn9Vd0C6dY G5xhnu7ReTXE8GgsJc78g8VAj1FkjeWqxSJSUg.MzeAicYG1gPc3yWT8B6W6 9Htmbaf1jdz8E7DxtmC9lGrCTShEUSzz813meg_azokE4Vb6mLfuDhyYauR3 xpuVnVjxo7AGAIYjlJWWT0hWfAMDpUFOpSPy3BeQecw7WnOxTvfJGHRUP0FN Gzh.UtRFNmeaJr4jorne982CpA94Bo5e8ATAIa7vj1I1u_f8_oYzD2.LqI8k GNcdy0GeGqbmCm7ZJClB1EMQyrGlaTUnCT9ORJTFh1tEYEy5UL24LUg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <25F4506A-A17A-4DFD-B861-D4249D675F6C@charter.net> <337693.56806.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <753851.31315.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:09:09 -0700 (PDT) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live Looper mistery To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-461908262-1301209749=:39943" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:09:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-461908262-1301209749=:39943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thank you Akraf! ANtony ________________________________ From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:05:04 AM Subject: Re: Live Looper mistery You can find it in the Audio Effects folder in the Live browser. Just drag it to a track! Akraf On 3/27/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > I am must be a little thick... > I keep hearing about the Looper in Live but I have not found this beast in > Live > 8. Where is it, do you have to purchase it extra. I have the full version of > Live with all the instruments and what not. And I am not refering to Mobius > which i downloaded to test it... > > ANtony Hequet > poet composer numbskull > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis Moser > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:13:59 PM > Subject: Re: OT video software for live input > > On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others > for this suggestion!) ... > > It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and > PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream > of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running > CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache > was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to > the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for > CamTwist! > > Here's the URL: > > http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist > > Have fun. > > Best, > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send >> the >> audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am >> not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for >> that :) >> >> j >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >>> >>> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it >>> with multiple computers... >>> >>> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that >>> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example >>> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at >>> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub? >>> >>> But running music software as well?? >>> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery >>> walk is honored but burnt... >>> >>> M >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM, wrote: >>> > hey, >>> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live >>> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from >>> > the >>> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various >>> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac? >>> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and >>> > projecting it >>> > on a screen all at the same time:-) >>> > April 2nd by the way:-) >>> > Antony Hequet >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> twitter @markfrancombe >> >> > > > --0-461908262-1301209749=:39943 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thank you Akraf!

ANtony

From: Akraf Emaho <akrafemaho@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:05:04 AM
Subject: Re: Live Looper mistery

You can find it in the Audio Effects folder in the Live browser.  Just
drag it to a track!

Akraf

On 3/27/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am must be a little thick...
> I keep hearing about the Looper in Live but I have not found this beast in
> Live
> 8. Where is it, do you have to purchase it extra. I have the full version of
> Live with all the instruments and what not. And I am not refering to Mobius
> which i downloaded to test it...
>
> ANtony Hequet
> poet composer numbskull
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:13:59 PM
> Subject: Re: OT video software for live input
>
> On the Mac ... CamTwist (Thanks especially to Matt Stevens and others
> for this suggestion!) ...
>
> It's free, isn't a hideous CPU hog and it runs on Intel Macs and
> PowerPCs ... I just used it last weekend for a marathon video stream
> of live field recording to test doing video streaming. I was running
> CamTwist, G-force Platinum, and bidule on the G5...biggest headache
> was routing the live audio through two other computers and then in to
> the Input (a firewire 400 Edirol audio interface) on the G5 for
> CamTwist!
>
> Here's the URL:
>
> http://allocinit.com/index.php?title=CamTwist
>
> Have fun.
>
> Best,
> Dennis
>
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozoloft.com
> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
>> One more thing, I only use 2 computers when I am Ninjamming. Then I send
>> the
>> audio from one to the machine running the video apps from broadcast. I am
>> not running any software for looping or any of that, hardware guy here for
>> that :)
>>
>> j
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Jeff is Duke is yer man here, but I suspect HE is doing it
>>> with multiple computers...
>>>
>>> If you have more than one firewire socket (i think you infered that
>>> you dont) you should be able to connect multiple cameras.. For example
>>> I have 1 800 and 1 400 and I can use both sockets and the webcam at
>>> the same time... mnaybe you can find a hub?
>>>
>>> But running music software as well??
>>> You talk the talk of the brave my brother - he who walks the fiery
>>> walk is honored but burnt...
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > hey,
>>> > does anyone know how what video software to use in order to do a live
>>> > internet show using several live cameras plus video content coming from
>>> > the
>>> > computer. Cameras would be firewire; how do you agregate the various
>>> > firewire inputs to one firewire 800 plug on MacBook pro or newer iMac?
>>> > I would be sending the edited content live on the internet and
>>> > projecting it
>>> > on a screen all at the same time:-)
>>> > April 2nd by the way:-)
>>> > Antony Hequet
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Francombe
>>> www.markfrancombe.com
>>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>>> http://www.looop.no
>>> twitter @markfrancombe
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--0-461908262-1301209749=:39943-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 07:11:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885D8183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1kDjG5XvUIZ/dHSpm4zMyJZoa6wMGGyQOJR1Gjx9MwQ=; b=jwrVS060jKdgfbBtBSGeGZJfz1XgQKhCfWJV+SDB/Ie9EoU2Lr60cUpRX/2haXw75z 84BcZVxAvjvGpYozm9gqAvSEaKHa97npqQ44x4vnJrltADZZ5hXTJbV4PXcGVo0mqCY/ RjmCZlrHegFhVasc0X8Gxvl4qaczajTqWcIng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j1dkrbhm/KVMVlpb3D3rSC1lmkpIJM/dKRyxLpGYSL8sm6UHDn2SxPBBU81cZBf2IN HY4cXzFJwBTpS5/EJtqPtMW0iCU6sSS0+z/MVVwomn8XWzyYIP3aoVgyu+cxg7CcPC8Z TRJA0pUpeD2fXHrLI/IKW3RRtYcnRkro5oPhM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> <8CDB97664BA0C9E-1748-2ABFC@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> <4D8DBDBD.10307@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:11:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Im looking forward to getting my new broadband connection so i can finish watching all of Reyn's excellent and inspiring videos. How about Way Of The Exploding Fist? I passed that off as my own original work in music class at school, an early sign of later habits. :) Akraf On 3/27/11, Art Simon wrote: > Nice! I liked this one a lot! > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 07:20:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00923183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f+y+8hvOlsjuD7cq4ikkiSZ3FsQ1T7Qqq0T01SPqZ3w=; b=vbix/tgPaYUr/id91B3tA14WjebTuGHvEiXS/6oWloseFnYC0kPdwhGU2+47BF5a3f SpRxkLh9HVVgJMJDPWemkeTLg4rft1PdproA0TPnu2zeLRQYV9SBYSizl58NHzKrnXdM TY27SZo/c6oRKCrLwAZTERQ5ns38/amGHv8IQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vSSpPsFcMB4wLzOEtQUlnGBQrXiDkwOBlx067ZHgQ02heWafKvdSDRqlGrz+xTDZt3 JBauH4oFFDB8TduQ4gVbRS6/ELo58SL5Mt9fnYHEC21791e7XhID1bu3IhpqCjo4wYyT Lyf+/sXipFM2JDe0s254/gCPLGcgxrpWu8CaI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574AAAEC-1739-43E3-AFE8-A998CFAE17E3@mancingdolecules.com> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <574AAAEC-1739-43E3-AFE8-A998CFAE17E3@mancingdolecules.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:20:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch From: Akraf Emaho To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Yes it looks like a great app. Kudos on the well thought out UI for sure. If it allowed queuing of the clips so that with a double tap I could do a quantised switch from verse drum clip to verse drum fill clip to chorus drum clip...well I'd probably buy an ipod for that! Then I'd just have to figure out how to attach it to the carved top of a Les Paul... Akraf On 3/26/11, Rapha=EBl - Mancing Dolecules wr= ote: > Thanks a lot guys, glad you like it :) ! > > Cheers, > > Rapha=EBl > > Le 25 mars 2011 =E0 09:57, Loopers Delight a =E9crit : > >> Yeh, it's a great tool. Very well made.. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Reyn >> >> www.reyn.net >> >> On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>> Hi Rapha=EBl, >>> >>> Fantastic work..! I have ordered an iPod touch 4th gen and an Apogee >>> "Jam" a/d converter.. your app will be my fist purchase... looking >>> forward to it. >>> >>> -Chuck Zwicky >>> >>>> Hi Everyone ! >>>> >>>> I'm Rapha=EBl, indy iPhone developer, amateur guitarist and looper >>>> lover. I usually and still use an Electrix Repeater and a RC20XL, >>>> which wonderfully do their job, but when I first get my hands on an >>>> iPhone, some ideas began to pop up and they eventually came together >>>> as an app called Everyday Looper. >>>> >>>> First, when using the Repeater, I always got the frustration of not >>>> being able to visualize my recordings, as a waveform provides great >>>> information about the audio signal that it represents : rhythm, tempo, >>>> envelop of notes, silences, ... . Even more great is that it does it >>>> in 2D, meaning that wherever the play cursor is, I can view these >>>> infos for the entire length of my loop, so I have a representation of >>>> the future before hearing it. Translated into facts, Everyday Looper >>>> displays its four tracks (yes, like the Repeater ^^) waveform in full >>>> screen. No buttons or anything to clutter the space. >>>> >>>> Then I wanted a "joyfull" way to interact with the looper. Real knobs, >>>> buttons and foot switches are totally cool, but, let's face it, an >>>> iPhone doesn't have any ... Virtual buttons are off, because of the >>>> first feature up here and because I don't like them, simply. So I go >>>> for multi-touch gestures instead. For exemple you can tap with two >>>> fingers to play/pause, swipe simultaneously over multiple tracks to >>>> change volume, tap and hold a track and drag it to its destination to >>>> merge ... That gives a great feeling of interacting directly with >>>> audio. >>>> >>>> And last, I wanted it to assist us in every way possible. So you will >>>> find features as auto-normalisation, a limiter on both merge path and >>>> final mix path, and quantized to loop recording. >>>> >>>> As I see it, there is two major family of looper users (and of course >>>> all the shades in-between). The ambient ones, which extensively use >>>> feedback, overdubbing and can be quite happy with a single loop track. >>>> The structural ones, for which multiple track, and quantization are >>>> vital. As you probably guess it, I'm more in the second category, so >>>> is the looper too. At least for now ^^. >>>> >>>> Here is my website if you want more precise information, screenshots, >>>> videos, ... : http://www.mancingdolecules.com . And here is the direct >>>> link for download : http://www.itunes.com/app/EverydayLooper . >>>> >>>> The app is on sale now (2$/1.6=A4/1.2=A3) to celebrate the 1.1 update >>>> which adds track merging. The usual price will be (5$/4=A4/3=A3). But = I >>>> would like to offer you a few promo codes, to download it for free, if >>>> you have an iTunes US Store account. I can give away 5. Simply write >>>> me directly through this mail (raphael@mancingdolecules.com) and I >>>> will happily send you one if their is some left. >>>> >>>> Don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, or ask me questions >>>> if things are unclear. On this mailing list will be fine as I read it >>>> regularly :). >>>> >>>> Cheers ! >>>> >>>> Rapha=EBl >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net >>> >>> http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky >>> >>> http://albumcredits.com/zmix >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 09:08:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FA62183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: Dickie Landry '15 Saxophones' now available again Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:08:14 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01CBEC6F.44D3FE60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvsXZ5lVhOIfrScRTucyAXn00WelgAAMzUA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:08:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CBEC6F.44D3FE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit one of my all-time livelooping favorites !!! -Michael _____ From: Revfever [mailto:revfever@ubergadget.com] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:07 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dickie Landry '15 Saxophones' now available again Alert: '15 Saxophones' by Dickie Landry has now been reissued on *both* CD and LP! (Unseen Worlds Records) It was originally released in 1977 and has never previously been reissued to my knowledge. It is now available from a few discerning online sales places. (FE, etc...) I've placed an order for a copy. I'm psyched! I've not heard this in YEARS but I have always remembered it. It is definitely LOOP CITY! And, by a true EARLY pioneer of loopage. Enjoy! Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CBEC6F.44D3FE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
one of my all-time livelooping favorites=20 !!!   -Michael

From: Revfever=20 [mailto:revfever@ubergadget.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 27, = 2011 8:07=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Dickie=20 Landry '15 Saxophones' now available again

Alert: '15 Saxophones' by Dickie Landry has now been = reissued on=20 *both* CD and LP! (Unseen Worlds Records)  It was = originally=20 released in 1977 and has never previously been reissued to my = knowledge.=20  It is now available from a few discerning online sales places. = (FE,=20 etc...) I've placed an order for a copy.  I'm psyched!  I've = not=20 heard this in YEARS
but I have always remembered it.  It is definitely LOOP = CITY!=20  And, by a true EARLY pioneer of loopage. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01CBEC6F.44D3FE60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 09:46:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE65183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yILqT30/ejM4Mck+WQ7WTZrZJ8SbaddPRd4t73nrLzc=; b=xSPKCpmCBwlgSnRGIY1avwN1Unk6D8fwxqADQE7WsWJvk+WL04jS8fBrh6+3onEm8A /VzMhLr8i1O1rmOU48MUGjpCTLZmFG/ueRTM3scyan4TkWXqpDADKdcGgrkguZ7rh8kU Iy/m/kLloel940rgH7ZeQlfn9HY32qlpiRL8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IaYb2fuUeSMRNnxeGvFzBoLChoq+oHFQOJUhMVOnYd6B4HwOvYPOXcJv53l9BpFgou 1HGkPJZBj1JuBgOFAj9pNAZbJr4cYhMEgFqn+RqwCcJgE9M3tcLyEucBXcEsRIG5r0bd e+6mCRJD0JTlaPl6BWtONWZJYEYik1Jqrxctg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8AC05@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:46:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5cRAhC.A.w8G.OewjNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:46:54 +0000 (UTC) thanx bud,but i think im inclining more towards the NI maschine,it does all im looking for and it seems awesome but we will see... Luis On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrot= e: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> yes man! great that you are mentioning the Vestax VCM-600 midi >> controller gotta check it out,ive been debating which controller to >> use for Ableton >> right now im just using the cheap nano kontrol for basic stuff >> what made you choose this over the akai or novation pads anyway? > > Plus > 1) Physical layout and build quality: it feels like a quality analog > mixer and that's how I prefer to work > 2) Visual feedback of mute, solo buttons etc. It's bi-directional. So > if you change a parameter in Ableton triggered by an external midi > controller like an FCB, the status of the LED on the VCM-600 will be > updated > 3) It's flexible: Ableton comes with a default mapping for the Vestax, > but you can overrule that per button or fader if you want to adn > create your own mapping. Also: it will work with just any host, not > just ableton. > 4) USB powered > > Minus > 1) Size and weight > 2) Price, it's 625,- EUR at Thomann. I bought mine second hand though > > Regarding the Akai (398 EUR) , that's a good controller too in terms > of build quality, the physical layout is less logical compared to the > Vestax and is smaller. The Novation Launchpad (158 EUR) is a sexy > beast but that's more oriented to clip functionality which I don't use > a lot yet, at least not live. But I'm thinking of building some > interesting midi automation clips and use these the same way as I used > Mobius scripts, and for triggering the clip, the =A0Novation is the max > I think. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 09:55:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77B15183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A2QYqK5DO3qBr9SkTM2rozWRpfv0c1lLVv/fbtnf7wk=; b=EhN/paNPuDsj5DffWVL2uLFZfE+OvU4U4Q0opAF3+5MmCbKYwazQy3SCZjI3lL40pG c9CpRQIClR8G/pAN0kyQtMtnFAzRKWejpuOMUn2M7ADrwZGX4s1IUEKr2YB2A8TVWiXP MGDh62WyG4u+afTuTorcaa4FY8OtUZ8ixa5gg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ltLtipjFXVKRtMI9PPeCZlzQyg/W3Bbff91ipU4+BD66bk3O3wUTXHkcUjn07kxVSB aZsy88OuUPoGBlZGrdEGQLGUYILrtdkor8H3hMsupbXQ//c8bivvpG2lZc7ERi/l6o5V vkM9yqx5wWpoG4MmRC13748OXrpIWURer5ezo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D7BE9C1.6030606@googlemail.com> <4D7C0E21.9070405@cruzio.com> <4D7CA5FA.2020907@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CA71B.5030504@googlemail.com> <4D7CAD06.8040409@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CB892.7040802@googlemail.com> <4D7CD856.6050900@tiscali.co.uk> <4D7CE5D9.1050705@googlemail.com> <8CDAFB5583B3628-21EC-2B53E@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:55:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bitrman From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:55:50 +0000 (UTC) LOL! On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote= : > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 5:46 PM, =A0 wrote: >> the wait.....also on another note, i think someone wrote that the M9 can >> take 2 xpression pedals, is this true? > > Yes, see http://www.thomann.de/be/media_bdbviewer_AR_236379.html?image=3D= 14 > > But expression pedals are bad for polka music ;-) > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 14:13:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1E41183486; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D8F45F8.9020601@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:13:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Re: innovative controllers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000202030709030802070501" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000202030709030802070501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Indeed I do Luis, but none of them repeatable in polite company... > > Furthermore I would like to apologize for the non politically correct > appearance of my previous comment. Neither was it my intention to > offend, nor to not offend, as offinsivity, if such a word wee to exist > was far from my intention, humour, being my only muse... However, I > can see that maybe it was insensitive to those testicularly challenged > among us, but believe that despite the one-sidedness of my obviosly > flawed and technically unfeasable, however possibly less > environmentally un-friendly approach to loop manipulation "sans > footpedal", I do believe that with a minimum of alteration, the > similar approach could be quite effective for the female (can I say > female?) Lady Looper... > > Imagine if you will our Zoe, directing a posse of oiled muscular > gentlemen as they press buttons and change buttons at her feet. A > quick flick of the Cello Bow and "thwack" ... the loops stop dead, the > lights dim and she takes her bow, her minions scurrying into the > shadows... > > ...or Little Gordius... whatever... > *I was being playful about pointing out the gender bias of the joke and not critical, Mark.......... I teach a lot of students and the musical world has a decided male bent to it (and a lot of young and older women feel left out at times)..... ....because it is the nature of things, I think it's good to just be conscious about it and not to be mortally afraid of over stepping some PC orthodoxy. respect, dude (and dudesses), rick * --------------000202030709030802070501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: 
Indeed I do Luis, but none of them repeatable in polite company...

Furthermore I would like to apologize for the non politically correct
appearance of my previous comment. Neither was it my intention to
offend, nor to not offend, as offinsivity, if such a word wee to exist
was far from my intention, humour, being my only muse... However, I
can see that maybe it was insensitive to those testicularly challenged
among us, but believe that despite the one-sidedness of my obviosly
flawed and technically unfeasable, however possibly less
environmentally un-friendly approach to loop manipulation "sans
footpedal", I do believe that with a minimum of alteration, the
similar approach could be quite effective for the female (can I say
female?) Lady Looper...

Imagine if you will our Zoe, directing a posse of oiled muscular
gentlemen as they press buttons and change buttons at her feet. A
quick flick of the Cello Bow and "thwack" ... the loops stop dead, the
lights dim and she takes her bow, her minions scurrying into the
shadows...

...or Little Gordius... whatever...
I was being playful about pointing out the gender bias of the joke and not
critical,   Mark..........   I teach a lot of students and the musical world has
a decided male bent to it (and a lot of young and older women feel left out at times).....
....because it is the nature of things,  I think it's good to just be conscious
about it and not to be mortally afraid of over stepping some PC orthodoxy.

respect, dude (and dudesses),   rick
--------------000202030709030802070501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 27 17:36:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7245183456; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-27_05:2011-03-25,2011-03-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103270104 Subject: Re: innovative controllers From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:46:09 -0700 Cc: Andy Owens Message-id: <037CBEAF-BC1D-4DC6-95D2-6CDF9B2C384A@mac.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8ADF3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D8E3321.2060804@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:36:39 +0000 (UTC) > rick (with smiles and tongue firmly in cheek) Whose cheek exactly? d On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:40 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Mark wrote something like: >> >> Instead, stand close to your girlfriend and/or wife's rack....push >> buttons....etc >> >> >> Man you are brave getting your GF and your wife's racks in the same room >> at the same time!!! > And now I will translate these sentences into non-gender exclusive loop language for > the 'hard of PC-ing". > > "Instead, stand close to your boyfriend and/or husbands' package.......push buttons......etc. > "Person, you are brave getting your BF and your hubby's package in the same room > at the same time!!!!" > > > rick (with smiles and tongue firmly in cheek) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 28 09:44:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E2D218349D; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XBr2Vsfi/PzK2Z/WwRXgo+PpTRn4FlVX/fXtPQ4E4uM=; b=Na2tzQ2m3VjVlXY99oPs9gTAf8XSivMw8Ghima54Yc2gqs5PSIHRP7PeWVWyfBfBhs Z04VI0keN04KUcGQbJDrXY9y15cGrG7Ur+mfWIiyDISOCuAMsMyzfkcqJTyf7RQClWSx QxvYBzQC9mIBKdkXXLE6FePdxfStzim/+gDwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LmRhXywp30Mr8a/YTyJiKZ9TEBH01DOHa5y7lSRS+dWEmfpYDYP0x8dIGxoGBR3TUO UmFY4ZmQjzRkkjmfjXitjAtcIEGUzn81KWLaIh4MdSGbcqtkkwJGGBOefYCQ7HiwkOF6 pLb6oxkRg8NajhUSvzA0Sx52/ZNImAHw+80dY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> References: <518B515F-95B5-460A-81A6-C8051B41BA08@baymoon.com> <3B6B8E4D-665E-4DDB-954B-9C925D36B34F@reyn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:44:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reyn vs ... From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354477d8eb35611049f87c8f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:44:05 +0000 (UTC) --002354477d8eb35611049f87c8f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/3/25 Reyn Ouwehand > Yeh, it's the singer from Coparck. I actually produced their last 2 > records. They splitted up this year though.. He now has this solo project > called Chop Wood. > > > > Ah, I didn't know that. I will check them out. I only know the first album and love it. All the best, Johannes > -- > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --002354477d8eb35611049f87c8f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/3/25 Reyn Ouwehand <loopers-delight@reyn.net><= /span>
Yeh, it's the singer from Coparck. I actually produced their last = 2 records. They splitted up this year though.. He now has this solo project= called Chop Wood.


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Ah, I didn't know that. I will check them out. I only know the fir= st album and love it.
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All the best,
Johannes
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--002354477d8eb35611049f87c8f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 28 11:41:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEDA1183486; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_011fcb46-bd28-4dda-b223-2bbe0ace083c_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: More looping style guitar with the Octatrack.. Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:41:23 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2011 11:41:24.0682 (UTC) FILETIME=[11281AA0:01CBED3D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:41:25 +0000 (UTC) --_011fcb46-bd28-4dda-b223-2bbe0ace083c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guitar=2C great guitar amp (custom by Cougar 4*el84 rock monster) and the o= ctatrack alone in the cottage (expect for mice and the dog ) So again using the OT for seme thing looping like=2C all sampling done with= recording triggs (explained on Soundcloud) it seems to be the easiest way.= .. usually set the track to 64 or 32 steps even when i record shorter snipp= ets so that i can set a trigger before hand keep playing and then i can rem= ove the trigg so that it doesn't rerecord it self=2C also a goog way to kee= p rhythmic.. did some crazy stuff with paramter locks on the delay (which = i used for some looping style sounds as well) sort of long... but at least= you can hear how it develops.. )=20 The guitar almost become a 6 string oscillator.. I prepare the octa and set= some track parameters before starting (sequenced retrigger and pitch shift= for example) but before i play the first lick there were no sound "in" the= Octa.. all you hear is originating from the guitar. Octatrack straight int= o recorded NO extra audio manipulation at all (except a fade out) http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/tentative-summer-time-also = = --_011fcb46-bd28-4dda-b223-2bbe0ace083c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Guitar=2C great g= uitar amp (custom by Cougar 4*el84 rock monster) and the octatrack alone in= the cottage (expect for mice  =3Band the dog  =3B)

So again using the OT for seme thi= ng looping like=2C all sampling done with recording triggs (explained on So= undcloud) it seems to be the easiest way... usually set the track to 64 or = 32 steps even when i record shorter snippets so that i can set a trigger be= fore hand keep playing and then i can remove the trigg so that it doesn't r= erecord it self=2C also a goog way to keep rhythmic.. did some crazy stuff = with  =3Bparamter locks on the delay (which i used for some looping sty= le sounds as well) sort of long...  =3Bbut at least you can hear how it= develops.. ) =3B

The guitar almost become a 6 string oscillator.. I prepare the oc= ta and set some track parameters before starting (sequenced =3Bretrigge= r and pitch shift for example) but before i play the first lick there were = no sound "in" the Octa.. all you hear is =3Boriginating =3Bfrom the= guitar. Octatrack straight into recorded NO extra audio manipulation at al= l (except =3Ba fade out)

http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/tentative-summer-ti= me-also
= --_011fcb46-bd28-4dda-b223-2bbe0ace083c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 28 12:42:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A382C183456; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D90821C.3010300@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 05:42:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: COMPLETELY OT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4N7MoB.A.nhG.lIIkNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:42:13 +0000 (UTC) This just blew me away and made me think a lot about looping of all things. http://thisvidissick.com/2011/remotekontrol-dancing/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 28 22:47:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D215E18349C; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D90821C.3010300@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: rang lll Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:47:11 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.118.163 In-Reply-To: <4D90821C.3010300@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33456-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBBB135BB770A-276C-1C0FF@TSTMAIL-D08.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <1wwMiB.A.5bC.DARkNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:47:31 +0000 (UTC) my super mega ultimate BFF dan sent me his new rang lll to test=20 drive.....what a cosmic buck-a-roo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 08:09:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17A42183486; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qmo0kCTXN5l6iQI+lDBiFtCrVMwUWM0IS/8SIdfdK1c=; b=rQ8GEarKZPml0ZRXncArLb3gyOW7QmY6vOTeIcKZher7lSVvcDncLdkTvQlsgdAc/A BA+pamdq2ZOnzZm2g3sz/im7CS+xaITJiJ0g2whhC2tlYAbn19mW9gJZF+S8sHU++35l cHC8dAe/LV7wsQ1t/HmjGGdiBmO7j6FrZ8Ukc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hdMKR5DY/XOU23nNTBOdzWe6K64utLpcey4ChMb1c55lKDrY/Qw2bTIFjip8a0zuiv 2ldycInFX4foFcIGHqxsgAxYomDEykSh+vt5ZsRZtIq35djuD70vJiHGQuoPzAXMLmjI rDzYeoI4WKz30xCfJW2ba5LBMSAf2N7axsTbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110317113757.dz1ejvw4u80wk8oc@webmail.musetrap.com> <9407FFBB-7568-40AD-A4C2-AE859593D950@charter.net> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:09:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Cry Baby: The Pedal That Rocks The World From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e6fffffea8a07049f9a9499 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) --e0cb4e6fffffea8a07049f9a9499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > And there are people doing original stuff with wah pedals even today: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2265253317431829320# -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --e0cb4e6fffffea8a07049f9a9499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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And there are people doing original stuff with wah pedals= even today: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-2265253317431829320= #


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--e0cb4e6fffffea8a07049f9a9499-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 15:50:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C175183449; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=45GA+HBOKFLcs1w6IEfYlnfPd52lOmttL5aLTEPG86M=; b=hlF4l/22rgSjqX/BfxU4PsnRTY82AamHYOgzVl1h4wrjXEKD9fMLHGb8h25Rs+C2f5 99OLHiBehekC406QmmCB4uqLKFXVjDq1QIZpjosRpgL7nEa2Xh1sRIp/KbbYSBTQrfwm AzqVtmx9B+PSBpjONzeK4+GL+sgk68gfYlsYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YcubCk8ig+6qishULjX9sz2GroQ+rRhRKzfl4CSCocNG18ceY8mYZxgtfOhni17CHU fTkXKEZuV9sk7bsR5ZRj+dOFyi8FHww2xVPVAcl6fvsqa9CPGg8Kwt0BWmS1WOwmSAWi iWHkHIY66BkkKPR9zsM2JvlqL2N/yF0DDVI90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 08:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Friend selling music stuff, including Repeater From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5jmOzD.A.v0F.H_fkNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, A friend is selling some music stuff on ebay. One of them is an Electrix Repeater (currently at $150.) http://shop.ebay.com/praemedia13/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 18:21:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B571C183486; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Sender: Catch All Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_-_Mancing_Dolecules?= In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:21:16 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9FC7B2F6-D133-4BB8-839B-CC2D9F642766@mancingdolecules.com> References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <574AAAEC-1739-43E3-AFE8-A998CFAE17E3@mancingdolecules.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Akraf ! Thanks for the kudos :). You can achieve what you describe in Everyday Looper with the "Quantized = Mute" function. In fact, I've added this feature for this precise reason = ^^ ! But you are of course limited to 4 tracks on an iPod, so you will maybe = run short on tracks if you want 3 drum loops. Rapha=EBl Le 27 mars 2011 =E0 09:20, Akraf Emaho a =E9crit : > Yes it looks like a great app. Kudos on the well thought out UI for = sure. >=20 > If it allowed queuing of the clips so that with a double tap I could > do a quantised switch from verse drum clip to verse drum fill clip to > chorus drum clip...well I'd probably buy an ipod for that! >=20 > Then I'd just have to figure out how to attach it to the carved top of > a Les Paul... >=20 > Akraf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 19:20:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2253183486; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1301426441-0368bc3781192eb0001-hGRpYp X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: HDean@wcupa.edu X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 144.26.0.96 X-ASG-Whitelist: Client From: "Dean, Hal" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Separate strings exploration Thread-Topic: Separate strings exploration X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Separate strings exploration Thread-Index: AcvuRa737pIvLsbNRuCA47TnZYpi2A== Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:20:41 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.28.73.115] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0321C9WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: wcu-xch-12.wcupa.edu[144.26.0.96] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1301426441 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://SPAMCONTROL.WCUPA.EDU:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at WCUPA.EDU Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) --_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0321C9WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I thought I'd post something that some of you would be interested in. = I have put together a rig that routes the 6 separate strings of a guitar th= rough a set of VST effects. They can then run into Mobius or an EDP or bot= h. I've put a pdf about this in a public Dropbox folder: http://dl.dropbo= x.com/u/5028778/Separate%20Strings%20Rig%20March%202011.pdf Other than the Baxendale Breakout Box, this was all pulled together with ei= ther stuff I've had for years, or recent acquisitions that were very budget= -conscious. There is probably some more elegant solution to preamping than= the Audio Buddies, and there are better sound cards than the AuidioFire8, = but they work really well and were inexpensive. I've been more focused on basic musicianly learning while pulling this toge= ther, and need to stay in that mode, so it will be a while before I have it= under some measure of control, but it does feature in the last minute-plus= of a tune posted on S'Cloud: http://soundcloud.com/howl-din/barn-with-pee= l-still. Nothing very considered about the VSTs or string routing, mind yo= u. 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Hi, I thought I’d post something that some of = you would be interested in.  I have put together a rig that routes the= 6 separate strings of a guitar through a set of VST effects.  They ca= n then run into Mobius or an EDP or both.  I’ve put a pdf about this in a public Dropbox folder:  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5028778/Separate%20Strings%20Rig%20March%202011.pdf=

 

Other than the Baxendale Breakout Box, this was all = pulled together with either stuff I’ve had for years, or recent acqui= sitions that were very budget-conscious.  There is probably some more = elegant solution to preamping than the Audio Buddies, and there are better sound cards than the AuidioFire8, but they w= ork really well and were inexpensive.

 

I’ve been more focused on basic musicianly lea= rning while pulling this together, and need to stay in that mode, so it wil= l be a while before I have it under some measure of control, but it does fe= ature in the last minute-plus of a tune posted on S’Cloud:  http://soundcloud.com/howl-din/barn-with-peel-still.  Nothing very= considered about the VSTs or string routing, mind you.

 

Hal Dean

 

--_000_F3758BD5E05F2049BBC449788EC936AF0321C9WCUXCH07PASSHELCL_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 19:31:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C449B18349D; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2xd6L3GVbxFwmnvF9J3uc4FV7gUh5aDKLCj11sY6/Vc=; b=SZ1K2ho7KZk00nbSaWbskbIycSQMdke2wNMNR6AcwSaokWh/7Cq4BIceFLov+uIuPC BGwoiJMeyvtxxVpmiqHW6qilbhxeBKg7uVb0HHbPCPhRNyfPYmzKTf5huHYvNTmFtcBb kQ8ROdIRae+yQIoERNA+8B+rNA5lLfKYpYRys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Zs4Zxf4aGea/6pQTKfecNhsODO09a6+GHrtnHGRfy9yJTF7bqexhcWx2CS8v19er1w I5X2yIz4YinUFuKsl7zV/mB75xdIxlTi5SbRhBtO9cPwnbis4IzGt6se+ECX81dNHjyS u+eWQBMjW5aWvQ80mvo+8RvUGsc+jfBs4gays= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:31:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:31:19 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I got a chance to listen to the whole thing last night. The level of > artistry and craft is astounding, and puts my own submission (which I > was previously very proud of) to shame. Thanks everyone! Matt, Sorry, but I don't agree with you. Your track is just great, one of the highlights for me! ;-) If you haven't downloaded it yet, it's great, beautiful and free! http://veloopity.bandcamp.com/album/stretched-landscape-remix-project -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 20:12:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D535C183486; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eU9aj7gUiLoSZqoIkGSQa83RVM/wiOVmz3DVmQuK29I=; b=hy8Lkjg5txZ/55TsO16zQHAz3zkQluN/hPRCdAOWDfsJMdY71KDq6/0UyXujc25cYp i0nxVEEY8XhNEg6FzDWYlVqRJ4puvRFSoEjUKBLeKY4+F1sD9ukYq9u3QOo7m1lL2JBu a0nP/6+SOMA8Rw+LsEIlhIRoP71qSZOkFuFGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IzMrD7h0ZN6bmv/XWpi+RFG5+Gw+uirEp9HA87iRzMkKM8NpHYxT9VQZRq/QQzPvja u0Px0n58cRyvdXB+Rtqntv3dgv2zubB85HORGCdzeX3lQsRfFsQw0XhupaW73UWex1xq RlEGSXYJTroNt1T21k7BkanVQP9PHdZwtm7I8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:12:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Aw, you guys are nice! I promise I wasn't fishing for compliments! -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> I got a chance to listen to the whole thing last night. The level of >> artistry and craft is astounding, and puts my own submission (which I >> was previously very proud of) to shame. Thanks everyone! > > Matt, > Sorry, but I don't agree with you. Your track is just great, one of > the highlights for me! ;-) > > If you haven't downloaded it yet, it's great, beautiful and free! > http://veloopity.bandcamp.com/album/stretched-landscape-remix-project > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 20:21:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D5AB183486; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CZLA4awbnWlDTb1n23X2t46O4W/4VhvthpPstrpAdk0=; b=v3wFntZnLSCejT8cNA4ELAuotW208mbfJom8ueTMkcm42oniS6L38117zCR62J8V1C pmKWXSZSB/N2A+HSJ4PbGvH2ldb+UAhDnsXfAsfkmbpu/Fo4BnKDj4FdWx9D/qMKakt9 FgPKU95zQqgyAzRftsBRRR0rM852QFnX2bc9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fUf84EKQkdtjsQb9NecAf43VOJq6NlRX5toor6fr+hvVfjXfQn6w8ZoHgNhfTi/adQ 7o/Q78TWF4Gx0XSP6PfI3THcCWFc1vmFYG3NCbuCeVvoHS5vdSt7YXjvyuYAI47IHvEO X3RyOOZWK0mZb+w94/xD1DGp7Iz+7PkrVDUNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stretched Landscape remixed From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:21:23 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Aw, you guys are nice! I promise I wasn't fishing for compliments! hehe ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 22:26:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB15E183456; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ty7sqTPGws05lNAW1+UvvcA6HwJ5WkV6IQqxB8zEXIk=; b=rpKgeY+NyVobIFxfc6L852IfYSWBJL5o+rYbX7EiNwsaqwQ66lqcYtsIOwZdw/DsOQ YrtEj0b54f5KemQza7bHrQzGzHNFDZ6BKtmNOz6QL46LlhKFTKLkoCe7hlewJbwGB7o5 9FHt2UYPYBIut6/o5h5S8Q6g8jCdycN7/aows= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rzPsBVGhBMI97gb67bOBMOQPXBR7MxWQoR3oW0qXeZrCmecMMYpGefSUkDvvmEAp3g n8odLqyNl4+mjwPWoZU0CLrtjk6jQE+5to0CM9dEYwYdKK0K9BKkPa636Q9+e0FzJSMZ OeP2ewTduaox3ZOsSSQqPArNoFNATviNR05jE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:26:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:26:09 +0000 (UTC) POT =3D Partly of topic.....but this review contains the words "live looping" ;-) Anyway, I'm very happy with it, looks like I've found the right direction with the Premonition Factory project and we have to celebrate it. I've created a special Premonition Factory EP with 4 tracks which you can download for free. Track 1 and 2 are from the album "59 Airplanes waiting for New York", track 3 and 4 are from the new album "The Sense of Time". Enjoy :) 1. To those worthy of honour 05:44 2. 59 Airplanes waiting for New York 06:58 3. The sense of time 07:12 4. Dream within a dream 05:49 Download link =3D http://premonitionfactory.bandcamp.com/album/ep-promo-tracks-free Enjoy! :) --- I was really excited when I found the new Premonition Factory album in my mailbox a few weeks ago. The first album, 59 Airplanes Waiting for New York, was warmly received here, so then there=E2=80=99s always some pleasant anticipation for whatever follows after. The anticipation changed into profound joy, because this is an extremely fine ambient album that is immediately pleasant to listen to, with loads of deeper layers to discover after multiple rounds. The basics remain the same: Sjaak Overgaauw, the Dutchman in Flanders who is behind the project, uses live looping techniques on synth to build his layered ambient sounds, and these recorded improvisations make up the music on his albums and shows. Compared to the last album, however, the sound on The Sense of Time is thoroughly refined, seamlessly blending layers of soft synth waves, drones, piano melodies, and some rhythm here and there. The atmosphere of Premonition Factory I would describe as abstract ambient: not necessarily reproducing or referring to elements in the real world, but acting as pure soundforms, and direct aural emotion. That Overgaauw is able to find a perfect balance in these emotions is evident here. Darker musical visions can be found on tracks like =E2=80=9CChasing the Unknown=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CMagic Box=E2=80=9D, whil= e bright calm material features prominently in the gentle opener and the piano-based =E2=80=9CMediate=E2=80=9D. One of the big surprises and obvious highlights = of this album is the title track with its excellent glitchy rhythmic work, but for the absolute peak of the album is =E2=80=9CDarkest Hour Pt. 2=E2=80=B3,= a deceptively minimalist track with a melodic progression that brings tears to my eyes every time I hear it. Not because it reminds me of anything emotional, but simply because of the pure emotion coming from the music itself. It is a calmly moving piece that has quickly found its way into my all time favourite ambient tracks. So, there. Heaps of deserved praise for an album that proves you don=E2=80= =99t need to be innovative if you=E2=80=99re just damn good. I=E2=80=99m not goi= ng to waste time by listing ambient giants that have gone before and obviously inspired this music. Where some artists impress by pushing musical boundaries and experimenting, Overgaauw achieves equally stunning results by mastering a tradition and refining it. Here=E2=80=99s to the nex= t one! --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 29 23:30:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84C1318349D; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mf27AJ/+NVNP7Tz3gw/gGwzrBGfY3vuCmAu/lJipklc=; b=dYM4TeUvkUtDPOP9gubvrIXlOh1ufqsj5u6uq8a6BbOG8+rMkr5ZidN7tLG5xNkEyz N2jt311krY4g/7aNDbXI7PoOJ/nJXlLNg0bNORMQARWSr4DbmXaVBy22wtZx9PfuaawN WML3JK6MleCBmgZE8aEUoFS5Mt6dwtpgHgGfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aSir/2ngtLT+Ymz3drzbqf98Y1bMIKzBdyJuv6TwcWcrpysPGQhfcPGZ0fDtrvVUCj zgjn2+ukkVBqj0kobe6y6hlsOdywLvIhwqZpz1g/9i1ExdunDgwSRXQ/2cBDEXsrxSu0 MaLtdWnMW5rFDmfbrk7rDqS/54wROIhJEzrQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:28:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:30:07 +0000 (UTC) excellent buddy congratualtions! ill have to catch up with you again in person and celebrate this one;-) big hugs Luis On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrot= e: > POT =3D Partly of topic.....but this review contains the words "live > looping" ;-) Anyway, I'm very happy with it, looks like I've found the > right direction with the Premonition Factory project and we have to > celebrate it. I've created a special Premonition Factory EP with 4 > tracks which you can download for free. Track 1 and 2 are from the > album "59 Airplanes waiting for New York", track 3 and 4 are from the > new album "The Sense of Time". Enjoy :) > > 1. To those worthy of honour 05:44 > 2. 59 Airplanes waiting for New York 06:58 > 3. The sense of time 07:12 > 4. Dream within a dream 05:49 > > Download link =3D > http://premonitionfactory.bandcamp.com/album/ep-promo-tracks-free > > Enjoy! :) > > --- > I was really excited when I found the new Premonition Factory album in > my mailbox a few weeks ago. The first album, 59 Airplanes Waiting for > New York, was warmly received here, so then there=E2=80=99s always some > pleasant anticipation for whatever follows after. The anticipation > changed into profound joy, because this is an extremely fine ambient > album that is immediately pleasant to listen to, with loads of deeper > layers to discover after multiple rounds. > > The basics remain the same: Sjaak Overgaauw, the Dutchman in Flanders > who is behind the project, uses live looping techniques on synth to > build his layered ambient sounds, and these recorded improvisations > make up the music on his albums and shows. Compared to the last album, > however, the sound on The Sense of Time is thoroughly refined, > seamlessly blending layers of soft synth waves, drones, piano > melodies, and some rhythm here and there. > > The atmosphere of Premonition Factory I would describe as abstract > ambient: not necessarily reproducing or referring to elements in the > real world, but acting as pure soundforms, and direct aural emotion. > That Overgaauw is able to find a perfect balance in these emotions is > evident here. Darker musical visions can be found on tracks like > =E2=80=9CChasing the Unknown=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CMagic Box=E2=80=9D, wh= ile bright calm material > features prominently in the gentle opener and the piano-based > =E2=80=9CMediate=E2=80=9D. One of the big surprises and obvious highlight= s of this > album is the title track with its excellent glitchy rhythmic work, but > for the absolute peak of the album is =E2=80=9CDarkest Hour Pt. 2=E2=80= =B3, a > deceptively minimalist track with a melodic progression that brings > tears to my eyes every time I hear it. Not because it reminds me of > anything emotional, but simply because of the pure emotion coming from > the music itself. It is a calmly moving piece that has quickly found > its way into my all time favourite ambient tracks. > > So, there. Heaps of deserved praise for an album that proves you don=E2= =80=99t > need to be innovative if you=E2=80=99re just damn good. I=E2=80=99m not g= oing to waste > time by listing ambient giants that have gone before and obviously > inspired this music. Where some artists impress by pushing musical > boundaries and experimenting, Overgaauw achieves equally stunning > results by mastering a tradition and refining it. Here=E2=80=99s to the n= ext > one! > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 00:28:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAE4183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D927932.2090902@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:28:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johannes Korn , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT: Cry Baby: The Pedal That Rocks The World References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:28:57 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Johannes Korn wrote: > And there are people doing original stuff with wah pedals even today: > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2265253317431829320# That made my day, Johannes, thanks for posting it. And let us not forget one or our own list member's creation at his DAED website (Disagreeable Audio Experience Designs: The Juicy Wah http://www.daedsound.com/juicy.htm I'm still saving my pennies to buy this puppy! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 01:35:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D600183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: RE: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:34:32 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B18B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] Thread-Index: AcvuYFEzP92v6r2QQSmt5dk6OsojBQAGfRVg References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2011 01:35:07.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[B335CF20:01CBEE7A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:35:20 +0000 (UTC) UyhheSlqYWFrLCBXYWl0IGEgbWludXRlLCBkaWQgeW91ciBtb20gd3JpdGUgdGhhdD8/Pz8/DQoN ClRoYXQncyBhIGdyZWF0IHJldmlldyBhbmQgdGhhbmtzIGZvciB0aGUgZG93bmxvYWQgbGluayBh bmQgdGhlIGlkZWEsIHdoYXQgYSBncmVhdCB3YXkgdG8gYnVpbGQgYSBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QhIQ0K DQpBbmR5IG8NCg0KDQo= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 08:12:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79C63183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6Zlie3A0/OAHiCCOMIwlwpoGOQWjAyfarBW6r5pu91M=; b=CSri6KTH6CZohduNeExbjNCCrm3gU3ZuJDDykvFzbbglKO1fHtWGmKlO0SpO8DxbEz DiSa5Oqjnv9uuxopymIogfGTeXz8YpcTSHK+7Nx5mQmRIU6q20v2vTYvFsUsr1vm+ZRL Es3iSnznPzc2goH5Dhf0Qgc0sc5DtGBQeXKxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FhghJg6B8WsTiXH75Fz6Jo0nxhR2/RVjA1q48G1fxFUlj7DPRQLsR82pfeb6q0GmCe AyXrmsdaTCQQyz+is1V//Ir+NrEkhFfOPm4zLZjJtkDYABhOMZ1jVS4nDhauz9B/spit eu9HSxnSGOtUcD9O957p3UKOtoP/InSKoyqhY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B18B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B18B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:12:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:12:53 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > S(ay)jaak, Wait a minute, did your mom write that????? No, my mom classifies my music as "difficult music" ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 11:08:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBEC3183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B18B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> thread-topic: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] thread-index: AcvuyplKfnDvIGYGQ0CEhZdvGhu15Q== From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:06:57 -0400 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2011 11:07:57.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9A27F70:01CBEECA] Resent-Message-ID: <5limSC.A.ILF.P8wkNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Well, she is so right!!! On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:12 AM, "Sjaak Overgaauw" wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> S(ay)jaak, Wait a minute, did your mom write that????? > > No, my mom classifies my music as "difficult music" ;-) > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 14:02:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07BED183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: C5iw DzhO Elwk FH1Q FWec FkBu HKUe HQPC HZjD HeVY HtQq IrIg JDyG JKbr Kk98 KudC;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{94090B16-2A56-4A5B-A63D-14D1A5B68BC4};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:01:36 GMT;RwBTAFAAIAAyADEAMAAxAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {94090B16-2A56-4A5B-A63D-14D1A5B68BC4} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: GSP 2101 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:01:36 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B1A8@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: GSP 2101 Thread-Index: AcvuyplKfnDvIGYGQ0CEhZdvGhu15QAGCAkQ References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B18B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2011 14:02:20.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[161F2D80:01CBEEE3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Hey fellers and fellettes, I am gonna soon put a Digitech GSP 2101 up on Ebay if anyone's interested will make you a deal or trade, good unit but I needed a one rack space so went with the 1101. Have foot controller too. Prob about $275. Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 14:15:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C08C18349D; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xO4ZV31NQkgXi90w5eyfQjpytwLGIQObayGvP5UgeMg=; b=mI6820AFEBqHLzPHQt+WUQVxg74+jxNSd4e3RSyUEVz/tqOD/VwKXsO1Z4LXb2LzVk 13ipc77YGqt5LShmid7PCC7IptKFBD0Bk0X+hCCf0BsLyPm/5H9a0iVHokvDAQ/yd35j LQEVKLplwG0F9T0XVTunjXSeEWuONRj0+kCCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=tDkVpQTLc7AmsULwHkFfuAe+HuwXWGgYbC7Qn6ieh/GG1ThQ39+u14nI73PGwDyL0d G6VfQWjzBeuIjhmyVBz/XfFzbBROweo3VGiwOckPp9YFFTqm3KZ4d4/1dpMMnN57GL/U gcRZGEA+ck+YXeTW1vJbICxEBfNx9iMzgJF6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:14:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FB_kKF8zt1Rd2XcOvw0l1J0QbUE Message-ID: Subject: KP3 or Quad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d69f10b30a8049fb3cee9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:15:12 +0000 (UTC) --0022152d69f10b30a8049fb3cee9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey guys, Ive been offloading some unused stomp boxes and raised a bit of cash... Im up for buying a kaos pad to slap on the whole ouput of my rig... I can see that the new Quad has all the effects I need (decimate, delay, filters and some buzzy looping things) but its not got midi sync. Not too bothered as the audio syncing is said to be excellent... The KP3 appears top have masses more effects however, but maybe manuy I wouldnt use.. and only one at a time.. the quad does er... 4.. surprose surprise... and theres no filler... There is however ONE feature of the KP3 that intrigues me, and may result in me going for that. That is the ability to record your finger movement and loop that... Now my question is... IS THAT movement syncable to the beat.. does it loop in time, or is it just an unusable gimmick? I asked my drummer who has one and he said.. "er.. what?" So he didnt know this feature even existed... Any KP3 user enlighten me on this? -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0022152d69f10b30a8049fb3cee9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys,

Ive been offloading some unused stomp boxes and raised a = bit of cash... Im up for buying a kaos pad to slap on the whole ouput of my= rig...

I can see that the new Quad has all the effects I need (deci= mate, delay, filters and some buzzy looping things) but its not got midi sy= nc. Not too bothered as the audio syncing is said to be excellent...
The KP3 appears top have masses more effects however, but maybe manuy I wou= ldnt use.. and only one at a time.. the quad does er... 4.. surprose surpri= se... and theres no filler...

There is however ONE feature of the KP= 3 that intrigues me, and may result in me going for that. That is the abili= ty to record your finger movement and loop that... Now my question is... IS= THAT movement syncable to the beat.. does it loop in time, or is it just a= n unusable gimmick? I asked my drummer who has one and he said.. "er..= what?" So he didnt know this feature even existed...

Any KP3 user enlighten me on this?

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--0022152d69f10b30a8049fb3cee9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 14:30:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AC28183453; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jjsNLMZImoKMaUczolmptdO4cfG16B4J3/FqN4ms+YI=; b=Xf1tiJKJQuEdmgsu5jVHTdOC0rwVmFJeRcCYL5+iyhruUZIgUibc/hiogfWB6O7h2f WaSSY0Vt6FWkgvtE9rCgAPvyJmE15NWB61rj0OjGHT75rtgWShDAxH+0SsT7Xc5M5eUx RWc2Ebq7/nKAeQA0QzX5U1l+nPc5qwqhqYWuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=P+onm4FIsArUw3PHE/U1grYj+dEwXOgiU5+1Ujc+/Cak1QmO/dXEB2JI0BmH2KXyLn Kq3AXbKHdn/0QO0G6Ycl6hCXb4SCt2c+xynVAgfs40KoE8ctuNSVpNXkmx/BgzX2pGo/ wOFb+qRX5ySkSHvZPNtGgzNQ106Wq75TsGApg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:30:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Sjaak Overgaauw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d0408498fed049fb403bc Resent-Message-ID: <7H5IO.A.QjC.t5zkNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:30:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307d0408498fed049fb403bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratz and thanks for sharing your EP ! -f www.eterogeneo.com 2011/3/30 Sjaak Overgaauw > POT =3D Partly of topic.....but this review contains the words "live > looping" ;-) Anyway, I'm very happy with it, looks like I've found the > right direction with the Premonition Factory project and we have to > celebrate it. I've created a special Premonition Factory EP with 4 > tracks which you can download for free. Track 1 and 2 are from the > album "59 Airplanes waiting for New York", track 3 and 4 are from the > new album "The Sense of Time". Enjoy :) > > 1. To those worthy of honour 05:44 > 2. 59 Airplanes waiting for New York 06:58 > 3. The sense of time 07:12 > 4. Dream within a dream 05:49 > > Download link =3D > http://premonitionfactory.bandcamp.com/album/ep-promo-tracks-free > > Enjoy! :) > > --- > I was really excited when I found the new Premonition Factory album in > my mailbox a few weeks ago. The first album, 59 Airplanes Waiting for > New York, was warmly received here, so then there=E2=80=99s always some > pleasant anticipation for whatever follows after. The anticipation > changed into profound joy, because this is an extremely fine ambient > album that is immediately pleasant to listen to, with loads of deeper > layers to discover after multiple rounds. > > The basics remain the same: Sjaak Overgaauw, the Dutchman in Flanders > who is behind the project, uses live looping techniques on synth to > build his layered ambient sounds, and these recorded improvisations > make up the music on his albums and shows. Compared to the last album, > however, the sound on The Sense of Time is thoroughly refined, > seamlessly blending layers of soft synth waves, drones, piano > melodies, and some rhythm here and there. > > The atmosphere of Premonition Factory I would describe as abstract > ambient: not necessarily reproducing or referring to elements in the > real world, but acting as pure soundforms, and direct aural emotion. > That Overgaauw is able to find a perfect balance in these emotions is > evident here. Darker musical visions can be found on tracks like > =E2=80=9CChasing the Unknown=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CMagic Box=E2=80=9D, wh= ile bright calm material > features prominently in the gentle opener and the piano-based > =E2=80=9CMediate=E2=80=9D. One of the big surprises and obvious highlight= s of this > album is the title track with its excellent glitchy rhythmic work, but > for the absolute peak of the album is =E2=80=9CDarkest Hour Pt. 2=E2=80= =B3, a > deceptively minimalist track with a melodic progression that brings > tears to my eyes every time I hear it. Not because it reminds me of > anything emotional, but simply because of the pure emotion coming from > the music itself. It is a calmly moving piece that has quickly found > its way into my all time favourite ambient tracks. > > So, there. Heaps of deserved praise for an album that proves you don=E2= =80=99t > need to be innovative if you=E2=80=99re just damn good. I=E2=80=99m not g= oing to waste > time by listing ambient giants that have gone before and obviously > inspired this music. Where some artists impress by pushing musical > boundaries and experimenting, Overgaauw achieves equally stunning > results by mastering a tradition and refining it. Here=E2=80=99s to the n= ext > one! > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --20cf307d0408498fed049fb403bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Congratz and thanks for sharing your EP !
=C2=A0
-f
www.eterogeneo.com

<= /div>
2011/3/30 Sjaak Overgaauw <= tcplugin@gmail.com>
POT =3D Partly of topic.....but = this review contains the words "live
looping" ;-) Anyway, I= 9;m very happy with it, looks like I've found the
right direction with the Premonition Factory project and we have to
cele= brate it. I've created a special Premonition Factory EP with 4
track= s which you can download for free. Track 1 and 2 are from the
album &quo= t;59 Airplanes waiting for New York", track 3 and 4 are from the
new album "The Sense of Time". Enjoy :)

1. To those worthy= of honour 05:44
2. 59 Airplanes waiting for New York 06:58
3. The se= nse of time 07:12
4. Dream within a dream 05:49

Download link =3D=
http://premonitionfactory.bandcamp.com/album/ep-promo-= tracks-free

Enjoy! :)

---
I was really excited when I = found the new Premonition Factory album in
my mailbox a few weeks ago. The first album, 59 Airplanes Waiting for
Ne= w York, was warmly received here, so then there=E2=80=99s always some
pl= easant anticipation for whatever follows after. The anticipation
changed= into profound joy, because this is an extremely fine ambient
album that is immediately pleasant to listen to, with loads of deeper
la= yers to discover after multiple rounds.

The basics remain the same: = Sjaak Overgaauw, the Dutchman in Flanders
who is behind the project, use= s live looping techniques on synth to
build his layered ambient sounds, and these recorded improvisations
make= up the music on his albums and shows. Compared to the last album,
howev= er, the sound on The Sense of Time is thoroughly refined,
seamlessly ble= nding layers of soft synth waves, drones, piano
melodies, and some rhythm here and there.

The atmosphere of Premonit= ion Factory I would describe as abstract
ambient: not necessarily reprod= ucing or referring to elements in the
real world, but acting as pure sou= ndforms, and direct aural emotion.
That Overgaauw is able to find a perfect balance in these emotions is
ev= ident here. Darker musical visions can be found on tracks like
=E2=80=9C= Chasing the Unknown=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CMagic Box=E2=80=9D, while bright = calm material
features prominently in the gentle opener and the piano-ba= sed
=E2=80=9CMediate=E2=80=9D. One of the big surprises and obvious highlights = of this
album is the title track with its excellent glitchy rhythmic wor= k, but
for the absolute peak of the album is =E2=80=9CDarkest Hour Pt. 2= =E2=80=B3, a
deceptively minimalist track with a melodic progression tha= t brings
tears to my eyes every time I hear it. Not because it reminds me of
anyt= hing emotional, but simply because of the pure emotion coming from
the m= usic itself. It is a calmly moving piece that has quickly found
its way = into my all time favourite ambient tracks.

So, there. Heaps of deserved praise for an album that proves you don=E2= =80=99t
need to be innovative if you=E2=80=99re just damn good. I=E2=80= =99m not going to waste
time by listing ambient giants that have gone be= fore and obviously
inspired this music. Where some artists impress by pushing musical
bound= aries and experimenting, Overgaauw achieves equally stunning
results by = mastering a tradition and refining it. Here=E2=80=99s to the next
one!
--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/

--20cf307d0408498fed049fb403bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 15:08:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A450C183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:08:23 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.58.16 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33474-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:08:31 +0000 (UTC) wonderful review.....but can he dance? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 15:12:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51F0183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NkUB3TrwVD3omR+kbfQYyPMsmw7HjeXIRkxSEbOTKgA=; b=pKGByARyHAXIYjiwMupzSjDVaECLRXw7haUegT1U4JT78oGAWeMcMMhhsoYUcQnUZH K9w9LeJXCzuUSGs9AfLZCqEADE/s6yi8+oD9wNyBMVQAYqiMVRFCMBm9jvFYwggG78b3 TYJKvKfBEtJst9Yg1RkaifW1c5QhClfMbKXXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sLGhDEqbzDeCkOG+/agap66XP88zWpMeq61gmorbNoaXfC0YekkKLrIYI80q4nQO79 fZVpEDugDlinnsLAKbMT0zeX4hTJuVOF093LA7gd7pEY3BN+9CCCNTh+u2w9VLPjGxpA ghtWRwX6GP2h33yvhzp8A6kCUKDoHT0tzrbXU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:12:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:08 PM, wrote: > wonderful review.....but can he dance? Ehhh....interesting question! ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 15:16:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F13E0183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jsIYC/bnwaQ/3G1gXacZWDixcqrQ38wXrmDf8x9TF5U=; b=t9xAIlKGIYIREOXI9fYatOZirRLXZe2P+YocDvttVVjskddcWORjLeyUTCB3X3o0x8 r7BaEWoULhaZvjT856t/b5en79vvd27MilfNQBDMtGu9Mn0+tIuLNT5h+wgUIo4O4ybj pLMFFrjJ3I+CuoRaBskuBfSLTVq3uyilb0ZNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XCQ9iuVybT+iAulBnU+PmUWbpEOhVrVmDED4UDDTzCfm7bkOMFoqxsu1MNlKeMSjDR NFcMNJ75xv3m8oImpg7eeHgFUCJ9e8tIsdPPfH1B7MfxZFGZPcpvOHjcAdzW+fTWiTex APcSV21LpqZMjoAVKLTahQTD3vfVqat72hPA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: POT - Excellent review of The Sense of Time [free download] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:16:21 +0000 (UTC) @Luis and Fabio: thx! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 15:16:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A174318349D; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:16:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:16:40 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 151.201.58.16 In-Reply-To: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33474-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:16:57 +0000 (UTC) anyone try this pedal?.....i'm curious as to it's looper, how long=20 etc.....tanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 15:43:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C76FA183456; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcIAFJOk01Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYHzGNAYlwtH+FagSFP4sc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,269,1299456000"; d="scan'208,217";a="112942744" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <4FD6C2B6-F363-4589-98F5-D21C1FBB0AE6@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15-1070258275 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK" Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:46:45 -0500 References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <6_fyiD.A.KcE.E-0kNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15-1070258275 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:16 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > anyone try this pedal?.....i'm curious as to it's looper, how long > etc.....tanks! > Mine arrives any day now. It should have been here yesterday, but Sweetwater's use of FedEx Smart Post is...well...anything but. Jeff --Apple-Mail-15-1070258275 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:16 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

anyone try this pedal?.....i'm curious as to it's looper, how long etc.....tanks!

Mine arrives any day now. It should have been here yesterday, but Sweetwater's use of FedEx Smart Post is...well...anything but.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-15-1070258275-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 16:23:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20CA7183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 148168.88891.bm@omp1014.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301502234; bh=bFI8HjEr1Pn+5638Ekw+XswqvPXDV6extP0dUE9GBf8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zqtNafgfUQYNAqXlk6alajPtMf4owHE4kFRti/Tc/ibOURyVIq1fM2lGtmzIOYVh4q3dcX6OdImCtHtYknx9ucKvQrV9rOl3h4MYYfLRGpWfTwfOocsNL9czgWPqvPYtrpJm2dGc62rwxx6+YkwJfUavuJp9STrqX/LDyFink4M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MAED/Ist2SvIT5tkSIo+xnAv7A3msPvZKMxBpziWinTn1yvkXlBsL/D3f1iZ4PgUgf0mUo4BQtVevFEgpK0zmd53XCs0rev/b1pr4dDdUwYOZaTyqBjII1ByMU5MJt2feiSi1wzIDVqb/xJaylxRmp8uBWY+JvPYaJW4pvjRry0=; Message-ID: <972820.75640.qm@web45911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2zePshgVM1njIlbVWs_uqMOIs38pLKoaRhhc6vDgZrAa1V4 7SFGXQcZnRVf1Zu9b1nm12H4cySEv02RjFpayvDFqiAmEHzLrpzyo.jNcSHc DQ8kfNXewMgJcPYRgDlQVRbFeacGw9cQfEWOpz.ezF0mQdIC3khQBl53QxbU sFMUe9gWBLliFtRHsO.cfdmC_EMj0DqW_bO1xXYN7_QneDnbo6eLm_9SzMQk od_5Npcb29UrWZj0sTLzHaAfjJWW_BmygBUKxwG1c1m6nyREcXgeIXZoVjvb dBkWmZjgjOvyqM.HwM1uvdUEh3s_vHXTD9tsk.vqsfKfiboCcng-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <225f88f01001291525o6b149258te14cf58a07bd7bfb@mail.gmail.com> <9C6A27D96FC14122B43ACCE474B95897@ELUK1> <225f88f01001300732w10311b23w165909a99b65b192@mail.gmail.com> <225f88f01002140719y223da619h13c1035b697963c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:23:54 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Everyday Looper - A Looper for the iPhone/iPod Touch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <225f88f01002140719y223da619h13c1035b697963c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-207884348-1301502234=:75640" Resent-Message-ID: <0Yv-gC.A.PXF.ck1kNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:23:56 +0000 (UTC) --0-207884348-1301502234=:75640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Raphael, I am intrigued by the possibility of running Everyday Looper, and using ThumbJam as input -- will it be possible to run both at the same time? (sorry but I don't own iPhone or Touch so don't really know how they work). Thanks, Eric --0-207884348-1301502234=:75640 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Raphael,
 
I am intrigued by the possibility of running Everyday Looper, and using ThumbJam as input -- will it be possible to run both at the same time? (sorry but I don't own iPhone or Touch so don't really know how they work).
 
Thanks,
Eric
 

--0-207884348-1301502234=:75640-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 17:03:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AFC9183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ai2GQmvccLiXaOKYBxwFywqARNWKfuQW5Xu+jFeZlcs=; b=tv2JYTi2kk5PDJz5akOMCCqybfltcJvDDxlhJ3fXRbrf0/ugoNrl/V9IDoK/mZU6Ln HL2i7L0aGJztDshfqRpMoqyHK3rQHRVDlmq20+Ft82l7EZdOUZzPem07DpjEe/3zAx1q YLPc1nykHglEKG/zSD47Ys5CPrzSFBJ6RNz0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EIGZqTbCeuGjI8Ago2tvzHJWFAuVVVUxQrv5dl1qAjvb40TSGk/ve34L1AT/XhmD+e zGweV85MGffAO7Ycxb71UzFSuvLPrcqCOjjpKCfLNIlLZEY91n56fivzzzWlFN94mviG Wz3c96zSIK49GcqVQC6zGvhXC4820XUp+VWJk= Message-ID: <4D936249.8050105@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:03:05 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: KP3 or Quad References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:03:07 +0000 (UTC) > There is however ONE feature of the KP3 that intrigues me, and may > result in me going for that. That is the ability to record your finger > movement and loop that... Now my question is... IS THAT movement > syncable to the beat.. does it loop in time, or is it just an unusable > gimmick? I asked my drummer who has one and he said.. "er.. what?" So Does it loop in time? - no, or only in its own time... Is it an unusable gimmick? - no, I found it to be very useable. Syncing your mod control signals to the beat isn't always what I want, in fact, I find it more interesting to have a mod control loop which is not synced to the audio loop when post-processing loops. The genre-standard filter sweep over a repeating (=boring) drum loop is fun, as is a non-synced pitch shift with changing intervals over a melodic theme. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 17:45:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 611C6183486; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 600386125/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.160/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.160 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0CABBrk01YbRSg/2dsb2JhbAAMmBMxzDeFagSQTw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,269,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="600386125" Message-ID: <4D936C5E.7080109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:46:06 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK" References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:45:51 +0000 (UTC) A guitarist friend has one. A generous 40s (20s stereo). ...and wait for it...the feedback knob is disabled in loop mode. Just Record, Overdub and Erase. Tap to StartRecord. Tap to End Record. Tap to overdub. Tap to end overdub. Double Tap to Erase. 7s of delay to be used with fbk control. Don't know if the "tap time on the guitar" thing lets you tap a whole 7s. Nice sounding delays. andy nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > anyone try this pedal?.....i'm curious as to it's looper, how long > etc.....tanks! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 30 22:11:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34E64183447; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:11:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: COMPLETELY OT From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:11:35 +0000 (UTC) > From: Rick Walker > This just blew me away and made me think a lot about looping > of all things. =A0http://thisvidissick.com/2011/remotekontrol-dancing/ Here's one of them doing a brilliantly conceived and executed piece: =A0 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzGkLTi7pxPg The subtlety and elegance is beyond inspiring, for me. While the editing of it is clearly manipulative, I've watched it literally dozens of times, and my eyes haven't been dry a single time. =A0 =A0 ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 00:43:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDF8E183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=2YnvXo9xLX1be7VwIShPVQrvGNFgVUdnh7iNE+SlkoM=; b=bPoCTGZlT5CKuLUyOhMoIMmvseM3XM4WvUDubJJoyAnm3yzszSFIjRYEr3TuhJPSYV ee/WUB/Gi9qyHA62NmhUQbfweV2MsSXcfMt/k+N08d+rNik7YcGGr86O4DhjeBxVBawo Ti+eUDw5GFsUAsirdaK5DcDDMuLu3rrJEw0J8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=qmGtWS0cv0XrCF2LBxJRZqCZ1syz9kTDBrJOytom5N56p4jPC4evc+3DME5QLC64QP yzwtidaMPTHUh38DQs06TLC3NAkaIzkW+SJNeJ1R60LY9f9+WXxsujmkSXo/VjNGLKjH EQx+MU1mG+kSCIpqm3epc+x/G19qAnopIFPUw= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:43:32 -0400 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:43:38 +0000 (UTC) My Current Softstep Situation for those interested: So my third sofstep broke 9 days ago. First one was shipping with a = malfunctioning key so it was sent directly back. The firmware was ruined = on the second one because I loaded it with a new firmware but then tried = to upload settings to the softstep with an earlier version of the = software. Now the mini usb port is broken on the 3rd one which I can = only attribute to applying too much pressure around '0' key. I wrote = them 9 days ago about and Sarah was very responsive and passed the email = along to whoever deals with sales/replacement.=20 That person has not gotten back to me. In 9 days. No response. Today Tom = posted a video about their new software on the ableton forums that = emulates key commands and the mouse. Maybe they have been consumed with = that. I don't know. I have my first looping gig in a couple weeks so I'm obviously ditching = the idea of using the softstep and I have reprogrammed my trusty fcb1010 = to emulate the same setup I had with softstep. So after had spent months = only using the softstep.......... when I went back to the fcb1010 it was = this huge unexpected confidence booster and stress relief. it was like = trying to run with a weighted vest, it's possible, but if you continue = to run and take off the vest, it's like your floating as run becuase you = were used to the vest before and it's all relative. I could run my looping set without any technical issues. Complete = confidence in my pedal presses. So my current assessment is that = although fcb is huge and clunky it is much much easier for me to operate = for time sensitive pedal presses in a looping context. I put in some = considerable practice time with the softstep while I had a working unit. = Maybe that would change with much of more practice with it?? YMMV -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 04:02:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EDB5183449; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:01:51 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T + Soundpainting -- Saturday, Outpost 186 , Cambridge Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video improvisation as part of=20 Dennis Shafer's soundpainting project. In=20 Dennis's words At 12:54 AM -0400 3/30/11, Dennis Shafer wrote: >In cozy performance spaces like this, the area=20 >between audience and performer can get blurred=8A=20 >Come see it get completely wiped out and turned=20 >around in this interactive performance!=20 >Soundpainting, the live composition of=20 >music/performance art with gestures, is used=20 >this evening to dig deep into the possibilities=20 >of inter-disciplinary interactive performance=20 >art. For a sneak preview of what is possible,=20 >click below: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Drgltcdu3y0M Saturday 2 April @ OUTPOST 186, 8PM, $5/10 7PM Soundpainting Workshop Chagall Performance Art Collaborative Presents DUEL by Claudio Gabriele and Soundpainting duel with Video Artist Dr. T ChagallPAC continues to work on themes with=20 Soundpainting and poetry Below The Surface by=20 Diana Norma. Also featuring the music of Francis=20 Poulenc, and text by Brian Ellis. Boston=20 premiere of DUEL by Claudio Gabriele for two=20 saxophone. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~=20 http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and=20 live) can be seen at=20 http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece=20 from the Spring Series at=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at=20 Outpost 186 may find my photo essay=20 "Improvisations from an Outpost"=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/=20 to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 07:19:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21D9C183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8lMUHAn8Y2wGtwWFyx8g2I8Znuq45XWgJVmUJOMN1CU=; b=lYjzOKDdG6wL3/WJqIBWoNxKjsva7d+91kFaYelRY06MQxrw9uXAm3dojafUNEYpH+ ybEbmxALL6bLfsyQb989gWmLMSyecosAMsxCt1HJGP4mSBAuLh3figiEDi2Jgf2p/KbG xPw7cqFS8dTmjpmhlaLyDLVPWtBTnpouxE7Ug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U/ZdbucCV5lRzPzVY69YSq5+qS6nKzwomNif9Ou0gUJY29D2FVeg7sEJJCvKre+aLY rL5IbY6f5ctds5sNuuuSZXqIl6ycAHtGmNlNPaJNZrsZ4NE6o+/+V9+dvDU5Er+pLc0K K9nl3By3rYWhUhO+RZHSOyOntG45qD9BuAhaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:19:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:19:26 +0000 (UTC) well now i dont feel such a whining moron;-) i know what you mean,i rather have the bulky reliable size now that some flimpsy device that will keep you tip toing is allready bad enough that you have to almost be a ballet dancer to trigger those buttons. I laso rather spend time making music than be their beta tester for god knows how long! i understand that small companies are trying to give us what we want blah,blah, buttom line,i dont just print money and they will only get my support when they deliver a reliable product. And yes i rather something reliable from a big company that wont always listen to musicians,at the end some of this this small companies wont listen either when all of the sudden soemthing of that nature happens and you want your money back. im even luckier and happier that i found a PMC 10 for less than 100.00dlls which is smaller than FCB1010 and can do a lot more,like control up to 16 devices in different channels,everything programable per patch,song mode,sequence mode,patch mode,record midi strings,2 expression pedals,and x tra input for switches,nice big screen no need for "workarounds" raising back rows led and it works beautiful! thank god i sent the softstep i t back! that goes also for all of you trying to buy the super expensive string port (550.00dlls.)which is just as bad i heard . i m sorry to hear that buddy,that thing cost only me time and money at the end and it took me a lots of emails to get my money back. cheers Luis On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > My Current Softstep Situation for those interested: > So my third sofstep broke 9 days ago. First one was shipping with a malfu= nctioning key so it was sent directly back. The firmware was ruined on the = second one because I loaded it with a new firmware but then tried to upload= settings to the softstep with an earlier version of the software. Now the = mini usb port is broken on the 3rd one which I can only attribute to applyi= ng too much pressure around '0' key. I wrote them 9 days ago about and Sara= h was very responsive and passed the email along to whoever deals with sale= s/replacement. > > That person has not gotten back to me. In 9 days. No response. Today Tom = posted a video about their new software on the ableton forums that emulates= key commands and the mouse. Maybe they have been consumed with that. I don= 't know. > > I have my first looping gig in a couple weeks so I'm obviously ditching t= he idea of using the softstep and I have reprogrammed my trusty fcb1010 to = emulate the same setup I had with softstep. So after had spent months only = using the softstep.......... when I went back to the fcb1010 it was this hu= ge unexpected confidence booster and stress relief. it was like trying to r= un with a weighted vest, it's possible, but if you continue to run and take= off the vest, it's like your floating as run becuase you were used to the = vest before and it's all relative. > I could run my looping set without any technical issues. Complete confide= nce in my pedal presses. So my current assessment is that although fcb is h= uge and clunky it is much much easier for me to operate for time sensitive = pedal presses in a looping context. I put in some considerable practice tim= e with the softstep while I had a working unit. Maybe that would change wit= h much of more practice with it?? YMMV > > > > -Todd Matthews > > --=20 www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 08:05:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F45E183449; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 600622843/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.78/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.78 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQCAJ80lE1YbR5O/2dsb2JhbAAMmEGWc7VnhWsEkFo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,274,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="600622843" Message-ID: <4D9435DD.3080807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:05:49 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > i understand that small companies are trying to give us what we want > blah,blah, buttom line,i dont just print money and they will only get > my support when they deliver a reliable product. I know you had a really bad experience with the Liquid Foot, and that the guy in charge really didn't understand or care about using his hardware for looping. let's not forget there certainly *are* companies that do exactly that. Xavier's Gordius footcontrollers are certainly reliable, and do everthing a looper could hope for. ..and for that matter, the EDP. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 11:32:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10BCE183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 597202279/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.78/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.78 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQCAFFllE1YbR5O/2dsb2JhbAAMF5gpzE+CdRuCWwSQWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,274,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="597202279" Message-ID: <4D946659.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:32:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gordius latest news Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1i43zC.A.oO.SZGlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:32:34 +0000 (UTC) OK, here's the latest (from the Gordius mailing list). The new planned firmware for the LG2 will have a simplified set up scheme. Limits on the numbers of presets will be (essentially) removed. new features include 1) switchable midi routing 2) Each of the 4 expression pedal inputs can alternately be used for 2 switches. 3) Call up a bank from any switch, or external ProgCh 4) additions to scripting. IF ELSE 5) programmable LEDs 6) Support for LongPress/ShortPress.....that will be amazing with the LP1 The Mac Editor will work with the new firmware, and is available as a demo (won't work with current firmware). Xavier *isn't* giving a firm date for release, which is quite right. ...as they say... "Programming a large project invariably takes longer than you think, even if you take into account that it takes longer than you think.". Meanwhile, the current firmware still gives the most comprehensive feature set for looping of any midi foot controller in a reliable and portable package. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 11:58:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC061183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1VUqGtr2z4jsvR0zpE6Q51JIpbbobDWZrS/46nYJ10I=; b=E/wETVnKD08LH3H65b7hsWHA10Ri5wNvRfGxA2y1dXLVASSdllSLvvCBUYInTyISDg WXukK06DlJH6XcmNnPy4RWE2nk9d+4Dasuf91oqWFKWKegnnY0YQvBH3G5973Qt0cXG4 KrOIp+1BEgNinX4t4XQVCKSA5leBOUDqJSQms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ku+wtbP8isTMvMA9aFHAfd7kwc19OMmpK0gh2TlQLSMFacK02n8QqZMPJb/4yurz4Q OVbky/uikeIolXU2Chnfe7TWiMHmoOBh4GiVTYLU7ldDBFcXvFk1CX5yuJCtYgZkp8+a qJLmB/d3QkLj1s5pyrQpUp1AhoBl3taNPsMqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D946659.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D946659.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:58:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gordius latest news From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Wonderful! I will upgrade when I get back from the Cologne festival. Must say I really like this controller! Fitting into the stick/guitar case it saves a lot of traveling trouble. Per On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:32 PM, andy butler wrote: > OK, > here's the latest (from the Gordius mailing list). > > The new planned firmware for the LG2 will have a simplified set up scheme. > Limits on the numbers of presets will be (essentially) removed. > > new features include > 1) switchable midi routing > 2) Each of the 4 expression pedal inputs can alternately be used for 2 > switches. > 3) Call up a bank from any switch, or external ProgCh > 4) additions to scripting. IF ELSE > 5) programmable LEDs > 6) Support for LongPress/ShortPress.....that will be amazing with the LP1 > > The Mac Editor will work with the new firmware, and > is available as a demo (won't work with current firmware). > > Xavier *isn't* giving a firm date for release, which is quite right. > ...as they say... > "Programming a large project invariably takes longer than you > think, even if you take into account that it takes longer than you think.". > > Meanwhile, the current firmware still gives the most comprehensive > feature set for looping of any midi foot controller in a reliable > and portable package. > > andy > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 12:16:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E793183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 600763697/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.78/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.78 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUCAEtvlE1YbR5O/2dsb2JhbAAMF4QjlAa8FpBSgSiBTRuBZHcEkFo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,275,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="600763697" Message-ID: <4D9470C4.7080608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:17:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gordius latest news References: <4D946659.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <72ZOxD.A.BKC.0CHlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:16:53 +0000 (UTC) well, rather better to upgrade after the release. ;-) Right now, the mac editor is eye candy. ( test it though, we found some issues with the win editor) andy Per Boysen wrote: > Wonderful! I will upgrade when I get back from the Cologne festival. > Must say I really like this controller! Fitting into the stick/guitar > case it saves a lot of traveling trouble. > > Per > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:32 PM, andy butler wrote: >> OK, >> here's the latest (from the Gordius mailing list). >> >> The new planned firmware for the LG2 will have a simplified set up scheme. >> Limits on the numbers of presets will be (essentially) removed. >> >> new features include >> 1) switchable midi routing >> 2) Each of the 4 expression pedal inputs can alternately be used for 2 >> switches. >> 3) Call up a bank from any switch, or external ProgCh >> 4) additions to scripting. IF ELSE >> 5) programmable LEDs >> 6) Support for LongPress/ShortPress.....that will be amazing with the LP1 >> >> The Mac Editor will work with the new firmware, and >> is available as a demo (won't work with current firmware). >> >> Xavier *isn't* giving a firm date for release, which is quite right. >> ...as they say... >> "Programming a large project invariably takes longer than you >> think, even if you take into account that it takes longer than you think.". >> >> Meanwhile, the current firmware still gives the most comprehensive >> feature set for looping of any midi foot controller in a reliable >> and portable package. >> >> andy >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 12:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EBAB183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: Subject: RE: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:31:00 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcvvmxGm+m5bdd8qSbeenw0nryqp9AABDqiQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:31:06 +0000 (UTC) I'll do my set this Saturday (Cologne livelooping festival) using my Softstep. So far, it works ok, I hope it'll still work ok on Saturday. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 12:35:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2F6E183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b26390d6-5d68-4365-bc04-04110cbc4330_" X-Originating-IP: [193.62.88.7] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: more McMillan woes Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:35:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2011 12:35:33.0802 (UTC) FILETIME=[2105B8A0:01CBEFA0] Resent-Message-ID: <_Hvk1.A.oAD.XUHlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:35:35 +0000 (UTC) --_b26390d6-5d68-4365-bc04-04110cbc4330_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the spirit of brotherhood I have to chip in a warning to you guys. I ordered a 13pin input soundcard from McMillan Industries early last Decem= ber on the assurance that it would work with generic windows=2C (ASIO4all) = drivers. No it didn't! I was then told drivers would be written within 2 weeks etc etc. Promise af= ter unfulfilled promise followed and I've had enough I'm afraid.=20 I've paid postage and import duty and now have to pay to send it back - ver= y bad form :-( I'm not impressed to say the least. =20 Peace Gareth@Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ =20 > Date: Thu=2C 31 Mar 2011 09:19:24 +0200 > Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > well now i dont feel such a whining moron=3B-) > i know what you mean=2Ci rather have the bulky reliable size now that > some flimpsy device that will keep you tip toing > is allready bad enough that you have to almost be a ballet dancer to > trigger those buttons. > I laso rather spend time making music than be their beta tester for > god knows how long! > i understand that small companies are trying to give us what we want > blah=2Cblah=2C buttom line=2Ci dont just print money and they will only g= et > my support when they deliver a reliable product. > And yes i rather something reliable from a big company that wont > always listen to musicians=2Cat the end some of this this small > companies wont listen either when all of the sudden soemthing of that > nature happens and you want your money back. > im even luckier and happier that i found a PMC 10 for less than > 100.00dlls which is smaller than FCB1010 and can do a lot more=2Clike > control up to 16 devices in different channels=2Ceverything programable > per patch=2Csong mode=2Csequence mode=2Cpatch mode=2Crecord midi strings= =2C2 > expression pedals=2Cand x tra input for switches=2Cnice big screen no nee= d > for "workarounds" raising back rows led and it works beautiful! > thank god i sent the softstep i t back! > that goes also for all of you trying to buy the super expensive string > port (550.00dlls.)which is just as bad i heard . > i m sorry to hear that buddy=2Cthat thing cost only me time and money at > the end and it took me a lots of emails to get my money back. > cheers > Luis >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu=2C Mar 31=2C 2011 at 2:43 AM=2C Todd Matthews wrote: > > My Current Softstep Situation for those interested: > > So my third sofstep broke 9 days ago. First one was shipping with a mal= functioning key so it was sent directly back. The firmware was ruined on th= e second one because I loaded it with a new firmware but then tried to uplo= ad settings to the softstep with an earlier version of the software. Now th= e mini usb port is broken on the 3rd one which I can only attribute to appl= ying too much pressure around '0' key. I wrote them 9 days ago about and Sa= rah was very responsive and passed the email along to whoever deals with sa= les/replacement. > > > > That person has not gotten back to me. In 9 days. No response. Today To= m posted a video about their new software on the ableton forums that emulat= es key commands and the mouse. Maybe they have been consumed with that. I d= on't know. > > > > I have my first looping gig in a couple weeks so I'm obviously ditching= the idea of using the softstep and I have reprogrammed my trusty fcb1010 t= o emulate the same setup I had with softstep. So after had spent months onl= y using the softstep.......... when I went back to the fcb1010 it was this = huge unexpected confidence booster and stress relief. it was like trying to= run with a weighted vest=2C it's possible=2C but if you continue to run an= d take off the vest=2C it's like your floating as run becuase you were used= to the vest before and it's all relative. > > I could run my looping set without any technical issues. Complete confi= dence in my pedal presses. So my current assessment is that although fcb is= huge and clunky it is much much easier for me to operate for time sensitiv= e pedal presses in a looping context. I put in some considerable practice t= ime with the softstep while I had a working unit. Maybe that would change w= ith much of more practice with it?? YMMV > > > > > > > > -Todd Matthews > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > www.luis-angulo.com >=20 = --_b26390d6-5d68-4365-bc04-04110cbc4330_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the spirit of brotherhood I have to chip in a warning to you guys.
I ordered a 13pin input soundcard from =3BMcMillan Industries early&nbs= p=3Blast December on the assurance that it would work with generic windows= =2C (ASIO4all) drivers. No it didn't!
I was then told drivers would be written within 2 weeks etc etc. Promise af= ter unfulfilled promise followed and I've had enough =3BI'm afraid. I've paid postage and import duty and now have to pay to send it back - ver= y bad form :-( I'm not impressed to say the least.
 =3B
Peace


Gareth@Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/

 =3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 31 Mar 2011 09:19:24 +0200
>=3B Subject: Re: More = Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:)
>=3B From: louie.angulo@go= oglemail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B well now i dont feel such a whining moron=3B-)
>=3B i know wh= at you mean=2Ci rather have the bulky reliable size now that
>=3B some= flimpsy device that will keep you tip toing
>=3B is allready bad enou= gh that you have to almost be a ballet dancer to
>=3B trigger those bu= ttons.
>=3B I laso rather spend time making music than be their beta t= ester for
>=3B god knows how long!
>=3B i understand that small c= ompanies are trying to give us what we want
>=3B blah=2Cblah=2C buttom= line=2Ci dont just print money and they will only get
>=3B my support= when they deliver a reliable product.
>=3B And yes i rather something= reliable from a big company that wont
>=3B always listen to musicians= =2Cat the end some of this this small
>=3B companies wont listen eithe= r when all of the sudden soemthing of that
>=3B nature happens and you= want your money back.
>=3B im even luckier and happier that i found a= PMC 10 for less than
>=3B 100.00dlls which is smaller than FCB1010 an= d can do a lot more=2Clike
>=3B control up to 16 devices in different = channels=2Ceverything programable
>=3B per patch=2Csong mode=2Csequenc= e mode=2Cpatch mode=2Crecord midi strings=2C2
>=3B expression pedals= =2Cand x tra input for switches=2Cnice big screen no need
>=3B for "wo= rkarounds" raising back rows led and it works beautiful!
>=3B thank go= d i sent the softstep i t back!
>=3B that goes also for all of you try= ing to buy the super expensive string
>=3B port (550.00dlls.)which is = just as bad i heard .
>=3B i m sorry to hear that buddy=2Cthat thing c= ost only me time and money at
>=3B the end and it took me a lots of em= ails to get my money back.
>=3B cheers
>=3B Luis
>=3B
&g= t=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On Thu=2C Mar 3= 1=2C 2011 at 2:43 AM=2C Todd Matthews <=3Bgtmatthews@gmail.com>=3B wrot= e:
>=3B >=3B My Current Softstep Situation for those interested:
= >=3B >=3B So my third sofstep broke 9 days ago. First one was shipping = with a malfunctioning key so it was sent directly back. The firmware was ru= ined on the second one because I loaded it with a new firmware but then tri= ed to upload settings to the softstep with an earlier version of the softwa= re. Now the mini usb port is broken on the 3rd one which I can only attribu= te to applying too much pressure around '0' key. I wrote them 9 days ago ab= out and Sarah was very responsive and passed the email along to whoever dea= ls with sales/replacement.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B That person ha= s not gotten back to me. In 9 days. No response. Today Tom posted a video a= bout their new software on the ableton forums that emulates key commands an= d the mouse. Maybe they have been consumed with that. I don't know.
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I have my first looping gig in a couple weeks s= o I'm obviously ditching the idea of using the softstep and I have reprogra= mmed my trusty fcb1010 to emulate the same setup I had with softstep. So af= ter had spent months only using the softstep.......... when I went back to = the fcb1010 it was this huge unexpected confidence booster and stress relie= f. it was like trying to run with a weighted vest=2C it's possible=2C but i= f you continue to run and take off the vest=2C it's like your floating as r= un becuase you were used to the vest before and it's all relative.
>= =3B >=3B I could run my looping set without any technical issues. Complet= e confidence in my pedal presses. So my current assessment is that although= fcb is huge and clunky it is much much easier for me to operate for time s= ensitive pedal presses in a looping context. I put in some considerable pra= ctice time with the softstep while I had a working unit. Maybe that would c= hange with much of more practice with it?? YMMV
>=3B >=3B
>=3B = >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B -Todd Matthews
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B --
>=3B www= .luis-angulo.com
>=3B
= --_b26390d6-5d68-4365-bc04-04110cbc4330_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 13:42:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8D7183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZjGNs5NnZfVpNZrEwAzE18QPrjMOlYY/DzEprnKBAdI=; b=loGl2NPkWM3gsxBzBOUo7qtKYW4OS3SixhnGjM9jsQF+v2RrMeBFHOWMKibOBC4vwQ hReCgUoaRaqi278IyoDw1lENkpxhSrz3qjLeGAwrzTcqe9EAfxqv9PtMrbGZmehdNcyz rukxfw5+qDwXwKmsxfquneIazW404/D5Ln6h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JL0MRmHn3z9/0DHR8S86klSqf2IE01eOiXD9kMIHwwLpiCwWFXE/yaJ3OWfpwUaGkl amcMb7AmgA9mw46OU9KvIPX7ipfx4nMKqmoMX//qUJNqR1H6/ep+RYe47AzBuwOCyfVJ WcToyaC4RCZ4lXiGZT7wglevMXWFqq0R5BStQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D9470C4.7080608@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D946659.1070306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D9470C4.7080608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:42:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gordius latest news From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:42:16 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, andy butler wrote= : > well, > rather better to upgrade after the release. > ;-) Yes, that's my intention. I'm estimation the release will happen next week = :-)) > Right now, the mac editor is eye candy. > ( test it though, we found some issues with > =C2=A0the win editor) I don't mind programming manually. My concern is rather maintaining a full backup. As for programming the controller I simply do it once and stick with that, while adopting whatever software I use it for controlling. But programming the LG2 manually has some issues and I'm looking forward for being able to keep track of my backups from the laptop I'm bringing when going out for concerts (running OSX). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 14:31:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1AA6183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CDBD036C83F06A-1718-405C@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <8CDBD049ABC0967-1718-42C3@webmail-m011.sysops.aol.com> <4D936C5E.7080109@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK" Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:30:40 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 68.162.143.253 In-Reply-To: <4D936C5E.7080109@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33474-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDBDC7582E2E64-12CC-10780@webmail-m081.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) A generous 40s (20s stereo).=C2=A0 ...and wait for it...the feedback knob is disabled in loop mode.=C2=A0 tanks andy!.....40/20 sec. is way more than enuf......shame about the=20 feedback though! quick thought about the RANG lll.....it is not intuative!!!!! the=20 little that i played with it was super fun and confirmed THE MORE LOOPS THE BETTER.....i will study it=20 further..... perhaps 2 FLASHBACKS? hmmmmmmmm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 15:03:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABAC5183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=12o9tffQaw1Eil3+Smg4bgXIZpBtEpqT7RSZSI/NLgY=; b=eZivvIawOARcuRVShBZHsXWg86b8mlYzvw32xwq0YSovZ0t+ZOyC6xgTUXI0yrLg/1 Ndmgsy1kjFMFCmZFsLLHvqWHyWc3pCjZTOzBBj9oOOd1EGzH4NC/CrnoG9GB4wCaZ1NQ PvUM66ZNE13kjW70qVNYv527VFQ+wzA/UW2mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vzu+0jYfusVje+vce8fsl8TYSpeyi5O8Vro5HXfdWH/TnLxtYBqjsCupiTySXVvUDp hnVRXRZyMqYThJfi2KhOKm04yVGE70yVXRM1BsM2qviZ9ZwBDP1YWs2YPwAww0FFSEtN XvPkuC2M7aaJwQLa7FiL9jyvc8se18UgLylYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D9435DD.3080807@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D9435DD.3080807@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:03:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo wrote: > i understand that small companies are trying to give us what we want > blah,blah, buttom line,i dont just print money and they will only get > my support when they deliver a reliable product. I understand what you say Luis: quality and support, I've similar experiences and it has cost me a lot to find out that not all products are worth their money. So, "What did we learn from it" Dr. Phil? ;-) Well, be critical and realistic with new products, that's something we easily forget, especialy with niche products like loopers and midi controllers. Ask yourself the question, is the company capable delivering a good product and are they capable to deliver solutions quickly enough? As a result of my own experiences, I no longer buy expensive products from companies without service points in Europe which can help you if your gear needs to be repaired. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 15:30:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF91D183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hx5XrsGenznwtQlk6jFmtt58R3AGUCzwzlpXhbKBmZA=; b=LCl6icqQRs1r0RNVz1T5e3mx1ZGBT6WuWwJbJ5L8T4/Q5LxADpr8krq5aPUI4O65GZ 3DJ/Jue8Ua/zIjyFKg07kzrWa2v6aXvf/hD0/Gk3Jee2NuX7YSLaKotDVuwerJ10mZb0 PVEllqLN9T9FbZ5riRWeEqLunJYMvfcfsvZJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pm6CCh3ADhwkNYHx+h1PR01geEg5wEJcqQRQj6IjpV7G41VPYVLGvTo/ujYzeo6Ww8 WactJV3yrwZ/sWhmyRlJBp6HZCFzH0npe2G7E5tOem49v3nrDK/uHHnoJcsisQ0bUgon d4vnA4sPxI94lwo8erLXGFnOBl+HoFAPZuN4o= Message-ID: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:30:54 +0200 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3OOlf.A.YP.q4JlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Todd Matthews schrieb: > when I went back to the fcb1010 it was this huge unexpected confidence booster and stress relief. it was like trying to run with a weighted vest, This might be the first time in history that a competent contributor on a newsgroup says something like this about a Behringer product ;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 17:04:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB078183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RkYvOk7uizv+K7XU3bsq6DbbhXYk+nqM+jxH/BERS5s=; b=AArhUq3aziCrDeReSMNjSo89DGVcJPi9zkrV5EI77jvEx1RiEbSCJllnK/yXgen8mB IAZWGs4hVFX85r/1lVq0YhH3buFbbOG2NWevwXefkDnmfa1aHQ6IaGTQky59QWYNI9fm d1VomBQ7+LiOefPeMTV9iTa3vF/KkDi/YVxgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HMzkxKCz9MRU+yPalaemaFGYvf2JudBXNlSXrFbV3XK8zh9B48mgO1Z0iYuRP3UdJi dc1/2wc3cNQPahooUZCQWiiLjTmDagnrGA/zKY5rv4lipGM1tVDFMr85XFLwGkcVYMzs bYQS31PV3fLFNudzYlvY8i+qlhsvGLNb7gTfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:04:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New Video, Soul Coughing Cover :-) From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51f972fc35dfe049fca49e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:04:37 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51f972fc35dfe049fca49e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul Coughing's song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the drum loop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULNRGJtMayQ -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --bcaec51f972fc35dfe049fca49e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul Coughing'= ;s song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the drum loo= p. --bcaec51f972fc35dfe049fca49e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 17:09:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87C9183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O3zQsIUvn1PI/GoXFkx2JGZP2jLnNhk4XBwihg+g1Ac=; b=yDIwgUGxiyeUSRmJLv3vNN4IpVPz1IeK0/yjUF77AZyqvn3cJrEHDUqgfhnbJN4e60 egaH0VHlVTY8hS5TEInsGTQgWJ4QUPpUiozIQ7+57bYR7stDN4dpN8xGQXsx5iczTX9n G45dlo9uRDbLcUkBQRkLj6AGG6h4xSySsZ3/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NwL8pzc/w5zPnkiemv1l6uoD6T85lQJr7ZZndi5t78cGll8z320srgOjSTXLLaRrFf jUrSs8/ZYb9SOo0mSYnBTS/tNeVTItqLG6rsqLAOsTzvACqxCR7Vm52KmqMeLxmu0YxE MU7Tu5Td0iXsBINDxfjsnL/eBc9QjQ5e2a1EA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:09:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4a5a0e23fb8049fca5b79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:09:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4a5a0e23fb8049fca5b79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be getting credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. Sometimes I have to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work! On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Todd Matthews schrieb: > > when I went back to the fcb1010 it was this huge unexpected confidence >> booster and stress relief. it was like trying to run with a weighted vest, >> > This might be the first time in history that a competent contributor on a > newsgroup says something like this about a Behringer product ;) > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/user/RafasOneManBand http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --000e0cd4a5a0e23fb8049fca5b79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be getting credib= ility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI co= ntrollers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. Sometimes I have to= doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work!

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Rainer Stra= schill <mo= insound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Todd Matthews schrieb:

=A0when I went back to the fcb1010 it was this huge unexpected confidence b= ooster and stress relief. it was like trying to run with a weighted vest, <= br>
This might be the first time in history that a competent contributor on a n= ewsgroup says something like this about a Behringer product ;)

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--000e0cd4a5a0e23fb8049fca5b79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 17:26:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 213A5183456; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=6cptyfJSqbkiwIyr6KZz5oZLkmCuH9jd6paVw5wtv/U=; b=CvEqUx5rNbFJIKK3prGWYWoIIiHTfI35sfPURlZjrNlHTIoitkvbAsGLsD7zE4DjHu 9ftuvXTe/dxO2HKpqaARLilDHvYU1L6RAhWmk/QhiHyqvSTvA7vtfvyF9LabuY8ditIg fyZ5p5c0XUjwt1H5xAESyQL2YxDylUt45bhps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=s0P/WYpv09hpAHSDuzqR6zaNa/gLBAkTbuRggFC3QYPyuNhQ+XBkj0MWw14NL2oiPr byaZCRlg9vERsId7eu1Mq+jUoA34FWjB/EIoQoPS6qIFtl9qAgd994VvwZbGncF7YmoX 4LzQU0BlH/X0MRmNsDPZpp9J01GyP2Q6qKGFI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:26:00 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: <4RaUZC.A.adE.ukLlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:26:06 +0000 (UTC) I've only owned my fcb for a few years so I haven't had it long enough = to comment on it's durability but the switches are my favorite as they = are pretty quiet (unlike metal switches) and it gets two thumbs up from = me on press-ability :)=20 -Todd On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be getting = credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a couple of = MIDI controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. Sometimes = I have to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 17:34:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66083183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-31_08:2011-03-31,2011-03-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103310084 Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:34:30 +0100 Message-id: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Conversly, I have been through four FCB1010s in as many years-- the swithces are great. But the Firmware is unstable. They go hey wire eventually and start srumbumbling all your CC presets eventually. Once this happens, they never perform well again in my experience. Even after a total initialization and reprogramming. Also, two of the four that I have owned I have had to service the internal power supply. I continue to use them because they are cheap, they are silent to click and the chassis is really well built. If I could figure out what the trigger event is that causes this problem, (Some combination of midi commands?) perhaps I would not some day buy a fifth one FCB1010. d On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I've only owned my fcb for a few years so I haven't had it long enough to comment on it's durability but the switches are my favorite as they are pretty quiet (unlike metal switches) and it gets two thumbs up from me on press-ability :) > > -Todd > On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > >> I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be getting credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. Sometimes I have to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work! > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 18:05:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65A36183453; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cFotyC86fsxNliJ1znxRRe9ZfTz+EEKZAdvjTbms4JY=; b=qeKxG/XEo44AuDkyHM1O5WlaqA9dK+Dzzbi0WvohufMLNFkkletYD55dOa/Adaa+G8 MInO/LRzMjmXIkMuI+8K8bnyoOLIGa0RQSM8m2bYpwL7JBjZ6mH/GBooImLDH907a5v7 LXEM/643mOuSe5Anh+dZ2Xg8SXIvPXGjmXAik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=whG+q4rBfzFRCN69xZPB1G1+LnpDmFkp1j6MEG4l1lqRYaWp4+LU9grbHaE9nl84ZH HFQsAjyEffyhPwkVSBBg9ON7qsygSVgXaizIKzeI2dmopvASi9vJbeOExAOTZhVq3Zpl 34OdndOlDaCldLyieU45hnIc6gnd6cwkWa+9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK", From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd329882d4bb3049fcb2272 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd329882d4bb3049fcb2272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i think i posted something a week or so ago, i had one: if you've had no other multiple option delays, it is a good delay box: SMALL (if space is a consideration, then yes!) and the price is in the same range as the dd7 & dl8! i loved the 7 sec of delay in all modes. most most good. i was mesmerized by the 7 sec of tape delays, left in 100% feedback, could have spent all day messing w/ it. and i was also impressed w/ the REVERSE--it is most good-fun-psychoDELIC madness... the one thing it does not do: is vari-speed pitch-shifting delay loops. (which is my fave tool to use) but when you would mess w/ the time it would shorten the delay loop and do it's own wacky thing-which was kind of cool (but no pitch change) never did mess w/ the actual looper-static phrase loops interest me none. so like i said, if you have no options, it is a good pedal. it does sound great. but i've been through: boss dd20, boss dd7, & currently have a digitech dl8.... each has it's +/- 's in comparison, i know there's lots of discussion of the flashback vs. other delays on "the gear page". for me in the end, it was too similar to the DL8, which i have & still like, so didn't see the need to keep it. so i returned it.... now i'm awaiting my new: pigtronix echolution....supposed to come today..... i had debated getting an eventide timeline, but the vids of the echolution, pulled me in.... can't wait (except i have to get through soccer practice tonight before i can get to it.....ug!) s--- --000e0cd329882d4bb3049fcb2272 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think i posted something a week or so ago, i had one:
if you've ha= d no other multiple option delays, it is a good delay box: SMALL (if space = is a consideration, then yes!)
and the price is in the same range as the= dd7 & dl8!
i loved the 7 sec of delay in all modes. most most good.
i was mesmerize= d by the 7 sec of tape delays, left in 100% feedback, could have spent all = day messing w/ it.
and i was also impressed w/ the REVERSE--it is most g= ood-fun-psychoDELIC madness...

the one thing it does not do: is vari-speed pitch-shifting delay loops.= (which is my fave tool to use)

but when you would mess w/ the time = it would shorten the delay loop and do it's own wacky thing-which was k= ind of cool (but no
pitch change)

never did mess w/ the actual looper-static phrase loop= s interest me none.

so like i said, if you have no options, it is a = good pedal. it does sound great.

but i've been through: boss dd2= 0, boss dd7, & currently have a digitech dl8....
each has it's +/- 's in comparison, i know there's lots of disc= ussion of the flashback vs. other delays
on "the gear page".for me in the end, it was too similar to the DL8, which i have & stil= l like, so didn't see the need to keep it.
so i returned it....

now i'm awaiting my new:

pigtronix e= cholution....supposed to come today.....

i had debated getting an ev= entide timeline, but the vids of the echolution, pulled me in....
can= 9;t wait (except i have to get through soccer practice tonight before i can= get to it.....ug!)
s---
--000e0cd329882d4bb3049fcb2272-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 18:12:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD11F183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: A while back..... Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:11:06 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: A while back..... Thread-Index: Acvvyel+Yq0l/WW2SiaM7gjjpY4EQAAA3m7w References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2011 18:12:04.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[239F9200:01CBEFCF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:12:07 +0000 (UTC) ......Daniel T said..... "No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any looping platform...HW or SW."=20 I just wanted to say, man that is some smart sh_t right there!!!!!!!!!!! DT if you ever start a commune or something dude I am in. At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and learning about our actual music. I myself am seeing this to the point of maybe even signing off this list for a while, not because I don't love ya'll, best list I was ever on, but I gotta move on and make some music out in that scary non=3Dlooping understanding world!!!! So, I'm going out, out of the closet, out of the basement, into the storm!!!! Will let ya'll know how it works out, I am anxious to get your opinions on what I am gonna be doin. BUT first to a trade show in Boston (clams clams clams clams please tell me they are in season!!!) then cave diving in Mexico Yucatan Peninsula for ten days. Anybody looping in Boston next week let me know Tues/Weds/Thurs nights will be there. So if I get lost in a deep dark cave ya'll can raffle off my rig, you're the only ones that could ever figure it out anyway!!! Andy Owens From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 18:17:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80194183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuIHAEHElE1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYUY0BwHiFawSFQYsl X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,276,1299456000"; d="scan'208,217";a="67009390" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <0A917C26-F7DA-4EDB-B019-F2E7101D2613@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--981572677 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: t.c. electronic "FLASHBACK", Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:20:58 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:17:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--981572677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > i had debated getting an eventide timeline, I believe you mean Strymon Timeline...or did you mean Eventide TimeFactor? Yes...it's very easy to mean one, but inadvertently type the name of the other. I was just asking for clarification. :) Jeff --Apple-Mail-22--981572677 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



i had debated getting an eventide timeline,

I believe you mean Strymon Timeline...or did you mean Eventide TimeFactor? Yes...it's very easy to mean one, but inadvertently type the name of the other. I was just asking for clarification. :)

Jeff --Apple-Mail-22--981572677-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 18:53:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B36E6183449; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s2aVfUdEI+hSkiKtVeKGFWA7YmEiCc4r0JBbIS+LdEw=; b=shD2zWc6SIFiEUVirlcifWor3UoAEjnAQkokB6mrLLYc4QL0qDQlsc/ST+mmKPjf5O e5APo/A4u4FQBsVsYnfaWKFYIqvP0AoRWsx6ero/UYYoUY1KKb7c2KsJR4R/WYPnXIhq Epu8aMvEKC+mLuhJ4y3CZ63kveJN3Mb+yF41Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DKiYZpgkDRJYNdgN75tOBzw6lPdOJLwHovvBfYvp5h6EeFQP/dJ5n/p8Kkb+ViRezq FL3t9/+eNgpP/hCtEwK5WDpCWG5Ji0XcFlRZEX9TLBiKYjz8Omq5A/s1r091fbkIZD0m SCkSMQp4FsZ6bTxpVSy629xzdxpkvirYoIWoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:53:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0D-wgC.A.43H.V2MlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:53:09 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI controllers, and pound for pound > the FCB1010 is reliable. In my experience it is definitely unreliable: You program its switches to send out certain MIDI events and find that they also send out other random events! My experience with FCB1010 pedals is limited to only three of them, each lasted for three years and all three had this bizarre issue. Since it is random there is no way to protect your MIDI gear except for setting up a mondoficious MIDI filter that stops every event that is not to be listened to by anything in your rack/laptop. But even this doesn't help when one switch leaks out an event that is supposed to be sent by another switch and thus assigned to some function. My guess is that this bug is what also Daniel describes in hist post. After nine years I had enough and bought a Gordious. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 18:56:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D09D183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fXyQ+bXlRHQp2d1q6HNYcJe2R/7pZdN0hUUUaEXeP50=; b=ZHg1DQX/VCuby2u28oPoerzWb5nyxbNL1e4hqsrJSWjmA/wESc7AWPwQZYcXHPjGdh rTs53YUTPVQu+cba+aPs0dr1h8XQ4tlBb/58YPbXQ7xmg1Oy4ztgRv8UHJ9+VFi2s7zX V9+Kx3FTnjSypj2mDK2n+sxXYJJCZquG+JIBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=WJRK+FL4JoT2qagn08b8TdazK7OSQcoFbnNZHFXzZ8RC/mrbKiw3f0Gi+P9fPFoVld rqvTb43uLyITNjQjcg8kwFhmfGsPqL/zpB/5S8Nq5BHpT3uBvg+gSM9M3nfnWhVrHu7h Z6r2RIuEVFMpGIbzJQ2nHWs4WPRST5vcU9Lf0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:56:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151743f91837a30d049fcbda80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:56:36 +0000 (UTC) --00151743f91837a30d049fcbda80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm right behind you Per. saving up funds now. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Rafael Nunes > wrote: > > I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI controllers, and pound for > pound > > the FCB1010 is reliable. > > In my experience it is definitely unreliable: You program its switches > to send out certain MIDI events and find that they also send out other > random events! My experience with FCB1010 pedals is limited to only > three of them, each lasted for three years and all three had this > bizarre issue. Since it is random there is no way to protect your MIDI > gear except for setting up a mondoficious MIDI filter that stops every > event that is not to be listened to by anything in your rack/laptop. > But even this doesn't help when one switch leaks out an event that is > supposed to be sent by another switch and thus assigned to some > function. My guess is that this bug is what also Daniel describes in > hist post. After nine years I had enough and bought a Gordious. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now available on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out the INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here: http://innova.mu/artist1.asp?skuID=3D449 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --00151743f91837a30d049fcbda80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm right behind you Per. =A0saving up funds now.=A0


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7= :09 PM, Rafael Nunes <supersim= ples@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree though, I've used a couple of MIDI controllers, and pound = for pound
> the FCB1010 is reliable.

In my experience it is definitely unreliable: You program its switche= s
to send out certain MIDI events and find that they also send out other
random events! My experience with FCB1010 pedals is limited to only
three of them, each lasted for three years and all three had this
bizarre issue. Since it is random there is no way to protect your MIDI
gear except for setting up a mondoficious MIDI filter that stops every
event that is not to be listened to by anything in your rack/laptop.
But even this doesn't help when one switch leaks out an event that is supposed to be sent by another switch and thus assigned to some
function. My guess is that this bug is what also Daniel describes in
hist post. After nine years I had enough and bought a Gordious.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set is now avail= able on iTunes, and street date is set for March 29th. You can check out th= e INNOVA Recordings Artist Page here:

--00151743f91837a30d049fcbda80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 19:00:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A162183447; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110331123451.84p0tf7e0oww8gc4@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:34:51 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rafael Nunes Subject: Re: New Video, Soul Coughing Cover :-) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) move aside, let the man thru.. fun cover of a great song.. :) are you a mike doughty fan as well? -cpr Quoting Rafael Nunes : > Hey Everyone, I just uploaded a Youtube video. A cover of Soul Coughing's > song "Super Bon Bon", it cuts in after I recorded the drum loop. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULNRGJtMayQ > > -- > Rafa's One Man Band Online: > http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc > http://vimeo.com/11499020 > http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 19:42:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E5E0183449; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-31_09:2011-03-31,2011-03-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103310109 Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:41:37 +0100 Message-id: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:42:06 +0000 (UTC) > I myself am seeing this to the point of > maybe even signing off this list for a while OH!!! Ouch! Damn! I have lurked on this list for long-- Keeping my trap shut. And now, I pop up few times with some dumb chit and artists start dropping off !! > At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact > that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal > or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and > learning about our actual music. apologize all around, really. I know what you mean when you say you just need to get the music out there. And its true that technology pursuit can derail the focus on creative expression. I have this artistic struggle myself-- I suspect many here do . I believe its a left brain right brain thing-- like all musicianship. Think about it. Your capacity to play your instrument, sing in key, control timbre, write a good song, book and promote, set up the PA to sound good at the gig-- all this stuff is developed through arduous self discipline, trial and error, return to bat again an again. The people on this list who really know me can vouch for the weird absence of my solo work in a sizable body of released recordings. An endless cycle of innovation opportunity and challenge is certainly one of the reasons that my own album is not in my catalog--I want to break new ground with any personal artistic statement that I make.... Well, I am no pup any more. It recently occurred to me that I might be mortal after all. And with this humbling notion came the certainty the only real ground that need be broken in order to truly innovate is within. Whether I play a ten can and a string or a complex looping rig. Still the range of my expression when playing tin can... leaves something to be desired. Right now, I am giving a lot more time to my right brain-- writing with the lap steel and acoustic guitar, singing, writing lyrics and songs--- But this is not at the expense of my looping pursuit. It is in compliment. The songs I am writing and the potent production methods I follow are informed by the ten thousand hours of technical discipline that precedes my creativity. I think what I am saying is, the pendulum swings. Go open you creative dam and let it flow-- but don't sell your rig. It will come back around. And with that-- I am shutting up. Please don't any body drop off of this wonderful list because of something I said! Daniel On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > ......Daniel T said..... > > > "No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) the price of > admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often > high. Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a > delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that > facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the > midnight oil in a very big way. I certainly have had to pay a lot of > dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any > looping platform...HW or SW." > > > > I just wanted to say, man that is some smart sh_t right there!!!!!!!!!!! > > DT if you ever start a commune or something dude I am in. > > At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact > that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal > or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and > learning about our actual music. I myself am seeing this to the point of > maybe even signing off this list for a while, not because I don't love > ya'll, best list I was ever on, but I gotta move on and make some music > out in that scary non=looping understanding world!!!! > > So, I'm going out, out of the closet, out of the basement, into the > storm!!!! Will let ya'll know how it works out, I am anxious to get your > opinions on what I am gonna be doin. > > BUT first to a trade show in Boston (clams clams clams clams please tell > me they are in season!!!) then cave diving in Mexico Yucatan Peninsula > for ten days. Anybody looping in Boston next week let me know > Tues/Weds/Thurs nights will be there. > > So if I get lost in a deep dark cave ya'll can raffle off my rig, you're > the only ones that could ever figure it out anyway!!! > > Andy Owens > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 19:46:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F0B6183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:46:23 UTC Message-ID: <9FBAE873300B4BADA8E053FF1FF459A5@INGO> From: "Ingo Ito" To: References: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Attention Bill Walker:) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:39:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBEFEC.172A2770" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:46:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBEFEC.172A2770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I haven=B4t used a FCB1010 up to now, but as I need a new = midi-controller and can=B4t afford the Little Gordius yet, I intend to = buy a FCB 1010 and did a bit of web research about the problems, many of = you had mentioned on this list. I came upon this website http://www.ossandust.be/index.php of a guy = who=B4s selling eproms with improved software for the FCB1010 . He has a = comparison chart on his website, so those of you who are already using = the FCB1010 can check if some of the occurring problems are solved with = this new software. As you simply replace the old chip, you can always go = back to the original software. The guy sells the e-prom (incl. worldwide = shipping) for 16 Euros, which is quite okay I guess if the device is = working without any issues afterwards. Maybe sb. has already done this replacement and can share his = experiences?! Ingo Ingo Ito www.itofarm.com Conversly, I have been through four FCB1010s in as many years-- the = swithces are great. But the Firmware is unstable. They go hey wire = eventually and start srumbumbling all your CC presets eventually. Once = this happens, they never perform well again in my experience. Even = after a total initialization and reprogramming. Also, two of the four = that I have owned I have had to service the internal power supply.=20 I continue to use them because they are cheap, they are silent to = click and the chassis is really well built. =20 If I could figure out what the trigger event is that causes this = problem, (Some combination of midi commands?) perhaps I would not some = day buy a fifth one FCB1010. d On Mar 31, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I've only owned my fcb for a few years so I haven't had it long = enough to comment on it's durability but the switches are my favorite as = they are pretty quiet (unlike metal switches) and it gets two thumbs up = from me on press-ability :)=20 >=20 > -Todd > On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: >=20 >> I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would be = getting credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a = couple of MIDI controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. = Sometimes I have to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBEFEC.172A2770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I haven=B4t used a FCB1010 up to = now, but as I=20 need a new midi-controller and can=B4t afford the Little Gordius yet, I = intend to=20 buy a FCB 1010 and did a bit of web research about the problems, = many of=20 you had mentioned on this list.
 
I came upon this website http://www.ossandust.be/index.= php of=20 a guy who=B4s selling eproms with improved software for the FCB1010 . He = has a=20 comparison chart on his website, so those of you who are = already using=20 the FCB1010 can check if some of the occurring problems are solved with = this new=20 software. As you simply replace the old chip, you can always go back to = the=20 original software. The guy sells the e-prom (incl. worldwide shipping) = for 16=20 Euros, which is quite okay I guess if the device is working without any = issues=20 afterwards.
 
Maybe sb. has already done this = replacement and can=20 share his experiences?!
 
Ingo
 
 
 
Ingo Ito
www.itofarm.com
 
 
Conversly,=20 I have been through four FCB1010s in as many years-- the swithces are=20 great.  But the Firmware is unstable. They go hey wire eventually = and=20 start srumbumbling all your CC presets eventually.  Once this = happens,=20 they never perform well again in my experience.  Even after a = total=20 initialization and reprogramming.  Also, two of the four that I = have=20 owned I have had to service the internal power supply.

I = continue to=20 use them because they are cheap, they are silent to click and the = chassis is=20 really well built.  

If I could figure out what the = trigger=20 event is that causes this problem, (Some combination of midi = commands?)=20 perhaps I would not some day buy a fifth one FCB1010.

d
On = Mar 31,=20 2011, at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> I've only owned my = fcb for=20 a few years so I haven't had it long enough to comment on it's = durability but=20 the switches are my favorite as they are pretty quiet (unlike metal = switches)=20 and it gets two thumbs up from me on press-ability :)
> =
>=20 -Todd
> On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote:
> =
>> I was just gonna say this. Whoever though Behringer would = be=20 getting credibility for durability! HA! I agree though, I've used a = couple of=20 MIDI controllers, and pound for pound the FCB1010 is reliable. = Sometimes I=20 have to doublepress buttons, but I know it'll always work!
> =
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBEFEC.172A2770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 19:59:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FBB183447; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 600951038/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.78/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.78 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8CAH3clE1YbR5O/2dsb2JhbAAMmErON4VrBJBa X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,277,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="600951038" Message-ID: <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:59:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Now FCB1010 suggestion References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Daniel Thomas wrote: >But the Firmware is unstable. Get the Uno firmware then. andy ps Spare parts *are* available for the fcb. Certainly in uk. You can definitely get exact replacement for the switches that fail. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 20:05:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0BC2183486; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zviAjYW+kUuKwMHYNddiVRguSsDeJupSNqedss44HgE=; b=YbqLpT6XdsriQsfrJrF94gcEKRSKLcTkHeWHn3UbycsZJ9w42V0W5ZQQpp6IlOt/+j F2mi13rtucSDQaIILnUUtGId2aVon0VxZ3+9rgyk+kFW78b0VNObSwXk3u4Ckug9GvMy iMF1vp0bPpsOB9t7MTo/O2hmJ7GVllmZEOTgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AIfn5toST0WNE//pRIxvvSlvbnBWWv7bs1zfrM5nVPdm/Mg0KHcMrJ68ovYfC/2NJv /IB7BjYOcIpLKpVt0Ak4L061GaXUwAO0w0OT204y1t70B4sWoekVLcsx5rFc+Oq5yKjQ TWUOgf6CR4+kUiLNRw/uXjIQNDD8yPze8iQT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:05:04 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: liPyQ6z02-603Z3veKPE9DAxO80 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Please don't any body drop off of this wonderful list because of something I said! Nah Dan... Fuck music.. Im just here for the knob twiddling... no really... music for me has been a marriage of sound and technology for years.. being able to play a few scales and hold down a few chords has never done it for me... guitar wasnt guitar till I discovered distortion and delay... Basicaly my instrument is looping, luckily I discovered it pretty early, and that has always involved some kinda technology. I think its interesting what other people are doing with new technology, but I cant move that fast, I would be broke, AND I would never get any of my music done, I would be reading too many manuals and configering drivers... This list is not a great big gear advert to me.. its a community of people that understand what I do... thats refreshing, because it gives me someone to talk to... as for playing live, I dont care if they understand or not... actually I prefer not... Anyone had that "That was great man, but I shame you had to have some stuff on tape" ... then you get to say "No tape here... just played live" I love that... heh heh but hey.. be careful in those caves Andy! Mark On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Daniel Thomas wrot= e: >> I myself am seeing this to the point of >> maybe even signing off this list for a while > > OH!!! =A0 Ouch! =A0 Damn! =A0I have lurked on this list for long-- Keepin= g my trap shut. =A0And now, I pop up few times with some dumb chit and arti= sts start dropping off =A0!! >> At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact >> that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal >> or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and >> learning about our actual music. =A0apologize all around, really. > > > I know what you mean when you say you just need to get the music out ther= e. =A0And its true that technology pursuit can derail the focus on creative= expression. =A0I have this artistic struggle myself-- =A0I suspect many he= re do . =A0I believe its a left brain right brain thing-- like all musician= ship. =A0Think about it. =A0Your capacity to play your instrument, sing in = key, control timbre, write a good song, book and promote, set up the PA to = sound good at the gig-- all this stuff is developed through arduous self di= scipline, trial and error, return to bat again an again. > > The people on this list who really know me can vouch for the weird absenc= e of my solo work in a sizable body of released recordings. =A0An endless c= ycle of innovation opportunity and challenge is certainly one of the reason= s that my own album is not in my catalog--I want to break new ground with a= ny personal artistic statement that I make.... =A0Well, I am no pup any mor= e. =A0It recently occurred to me that I might be mortal after all. =A0And w= ith this humbling notion came the certainty the only real ground that need = be broken in order to truly innovate is within. =A0Whether I play a ten can= and a string or a complex looping rig. > > Still the range of my expression when playing tin can... leaves something= to be desired. > > Right now, I am giving a lot more time to my right brain-- writing with t= he lap steel and acoustic guitar, singing, writing lyrics and songs--- But = this is not at the expense of my looping pursuit. It is in compliment. The = songs I am writing and the potent production methods I follow are informed = by the ten thousand hours of technical discipline that precedes my creativi= ty. =A0I think what I am saying is, the pendulum swings. =A0Go open you cre= ative dam and let it flow-- but don't sell your rig. =A0It will come back a= round. > > And with that-- I am shutting up. > > Please don't any body drop off of this wonderful list because of somethin= g I said! > Daniel > > > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> ......Daniel T said..... >> >> >> "No matter what your platform, (i prefer them all :) =A0the price of >> admission to create unique and idiosyncratic art with a looper is often >> high. =A0Thats not to say that you can't make great looping art with a >> delay pedal, but if you want to innovate performance workflows that >> facilitate your own compositional style, you may have to buck up the >> midnight oil in a very big way. =A0I certainly have had to pay a lot of >> dues to the "WTF-is-going-on-now-Gods" in order to break through on any >> looping platform...HW or SW." >> >> >> >> I just wanted to say, man that is some smart sh_t right there!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> DT if you ever start a commune or something dude I am in. >> >> At some point, I think you have to look at the raw reality of the fact >> that maybe my/your/our fascination with another glitch or knob or pedal >> or VST or HDWR is really just an excuse not to be making, growing and >> learning about our actual music. I myself am seeing this to the point of >> maybe even signing off this list for a while, not because I don't love >> ya'll, best list I was ever on, but I gotta move on and make some music >> out in that scary non=3Dlooping understanding world!!!! >> >> So, I'm going out, out of the closet, out of the basement, into the >> storm!!!! Will let ya'll know how it works out, I am anxious to get your >> opinions on what I am gonna be doin. >> >> BUT first to a trade show in Boston (clams clams clams clams please tell >> me they are in season!!!) then cave diving in Mexico Yucatan Peninsula >> for ten days. Anybody looping in Boston next week let me know >> Tues/Weds/Thurs nights will be there. >> >> So if I get lost in a deep dark cave ya'll can raffle off my rig, you're >> the only ones that could ever figure it out anyway!!! >> >> Andy Owens >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 20:10:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 485E01834A0; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=3I2lb+Vh3M/mxm9mpvenMErozHEoe8SWo0GBMtKLW5I=; b=hgQGlsNNInU+dcv8RDB1EtL6POxJBScW3tTR73Wt5VO+U8qAPwx3sursep+z5fhdvy m3+fZKo7pNH9NgG+KL73AwdrIjrCaXGAPLVU37ezG057wHC8urBfbOv6aWdS7QGSDH2v XfZgThlddPTZNqDZxsOyJ7jVoriFKcFybpzq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Nfvc3VtzgVKabsEkOHvNzfhlVeiyM9n2O1CdgGZrW/MemxjntiqczruaHT53JspWkN pop6/f047FRo0582WqdQYvPEGU2bW42xQUSY9f05SlLig25RL9ncA3s/Dz3oWlyikcz7 5DNQbmHPuYVJKzPMLserr/go2Nww/evd70E90= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Now FCB1010 suggestion From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:10:12 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <28B0FBE7-610D-4641-88C8-BBFE5D3F92F5@gmail.com> References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy, Could you share that link again for those tactile switch replacements? = It would be smart for me to buy a handful now that I have some beginner = soldering skillz so I'm prepared for that day to come. -Todd On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:59 PM, andy butler wrote: > Daniel Thomas wrote: >> But the Firmware is unstable.=20 >=20 > Get the Uno firmware then. >=20 >=20 > andy >=20 > ps > Spare parts *are* available for the fcb. > Certainly in uk. >=20 > You can definitely get exact replacement for the switches that > fail. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 20:12:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61E861834A5; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=R64xCQ8u8RiNfR6Bxo3fhLelCzg9XeEWxq0viNr3Ot0=; b=luDnSeJ2PyAoDk37be4tdxlYedTT8CAE3hhkNqU7rBCHQD1tVdXrNDXbS9SSkTv6Kd DcwccOXwE/qQ/tymKl5sV5rwrKH0SoKq9/DI5LO5e2W2flTOSdV50SIHyrqwxdZIc75N vJcCmBcOuTHCWiJsfL1nW3GzQbtubfsxYOvds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nXbolhlMeRFnebYEyoJdJP1p8xO2vtJ/uW38GJDsjnKu44UwoiemwNkRTn4d/PbyOc hFLMDBB5xAfwG/fzJwCkQNtgtxkS7U7r2Nh8byluLvQEfNTN1IcEZlG7hkWrn9RWZxOB lhWpSac8FVnSwFYMZkG/L7KZs4XJc3y+tjDXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:12:07 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Id-gc0OIx5zgTcg4fizdgYJJDo4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Softstep Feedback - Now FCB1010 suggestion To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:12:27 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:59 PM, andy butler wrote: > > You can definitely get exact replacement for the switches that > fail. > OK Andy... You are gonna have to prove that one... part number now!!! If so... Im gonna get me new firmware (im on the old 1.0 and cant use the editor) I decided NOT to go with UNO... cos of the PC editor... but I.. like Todd, have been surfing the big silver board happily since my SS went back... and Rainer.. I believe I expounded the relative merits of my Behringer 1U mixer a few weeks back... wait... sorry you said "Competant Contributer" Not Incoherant Rambler... Mark -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 20:32:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9755F1834A5; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 600899766/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.30.78/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.30.78 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8CACjklE1YbR5O/2dsb2JhbAAMmEqWcBu3FYVrBJBagzc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,278,1299456000"; d="scan'208";a="600899766" Message-ID: <4D94E4E9.9050104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:32:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FCB1010 replacement switch References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> <28B0FBE7-610D-4641-88C8-BBFE5D3F92F5@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28B0FBE7-610D-4641-88C8-BBFE5D3F92F5@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9XNPh.A.xAE.XTOlNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Todd Matthews wrote: > Hey Andy, > > Could you share that link again for those tactile switch replacements? If they didn't have one of those annoying sites that don't let you link to products I'd give you the exact page. http://pms-electronics.com/shop1/index.php Select English Search for article no. 887-43811-03768 This will cover switches 1-10 , Up & Down They're good at responding to email. mark francombe wrote: > OK Andy... You are gonna have to prove that one... part number now!!! was there some other thing I didn't prove? > If so... Im gonna get me new firmware (im on the old 1.0 and cant use > the editor) I decided NOT to go with UNO... cos of the PC editor... > but I.. like Todd, have been surfing the big silver board happily > since my SS went back... I had the older firmware and never had the phantom CCs that plagued others, don't know if you found them on 1.0 tho'. Aren't there other firmwares available? Or an editor that works with 1.0? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 20:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8139E1834AA; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D94E5F3.9010209@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:37:07 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:37:10 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Line of the Horizon" on O-Town Music. For details, See the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 22:14:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71B071834A9; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MHYcwQ5McXwuIM419ASq6zufGA5jlfN2EJOk7FJx9Y8=; b=skePp6d/5afyLpNA8Tft1jF4WRRztFvVIjb9RuKVUWi9RtmjZiNDJ3JJnQpx9ZQbl2 HiToZNuYf8DDzc+guG6T4acE+VTbd6jfNLkj4QeIp4hB9JXRYs92iUHwWhqOXQr0K/uI NiiBvUfSl0c+y+Onwv1dXAAfDeni5doyXgy3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vKTVdeeHg/qbluhlMF9wDA2+CxurxQuINFRvUA59LMrDYQ7ycXZ+GTkTh1wepGHfbo D0t3HahfFy9aSnDQm9D75uI6Qpe1B89DC3I66oIIvme6iDWyta4ujERUs2H4fZ0vz96j iqph+ElhDqhBAo4yXnLLq3HCXBSypU5Bbry1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D94E4E9.9050104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <4D94DD36.8070106@tiscali.co.uk> <28B0FBE7-610D-4641-88C8-BBFE5D3F92F5@gmail.com> <4D94E4E9.9050104@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:13:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _ZmrInTXpiH4cij-VRmpiCnqgxY Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCB1010 replacement switch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8e04a888ff049fce9c77 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:14:08 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8e04a888ff049fce9c77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 im not plagued by any problems at all, except that 1.0 has no software for it... (ok a couple of slightly dodgy switches) I NEED to save my settings.. and bad.. And no... you always prove everything... twas but a sentence wobble... APU thx andy... Ill be ordering dem der switches.. I had the older firmware and never had the phantom CCs that plagued others, > don't know if you found them on 1.0 tho'. > > Aren't there other firmwares available? > Or an editor that works with 1.0? > andy > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6e8e04a888ff049fce9c77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable im not plagued by any problems at all, except that 1.0 has no software for = it... (ok a couple of slightly dodgy switches) I NEED to save my settings..= and bad..

And no... you always prove everything... twas but a sente= nce wobble... APU

thx andy... Ill be ordering dem der switches..

I had the older firmware and never had the phantom CCs that plagued others,= don't know if you found them on 1.0 tho'.

Aren't there other firmwares available?
Or an editor that works with 1.0?
andy





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--90e6ba6e8e04a888ff049fce9c77-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 31 22:33:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A45B18349E; Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p/SNvpiMikcCT964Pjijuj6ccgnBgvquiKIJixxR02g=; b=EMFyUW0TUN7W6OSrCYzFkLxhZZQP4zQ8/OyPn3rMks/m2X6MklGdLcF9nkOWJTcBCM TPnEDy488zMdFQQNOLhBQ59M5qLaOLe6f3KCpQa9izgwDEWxjFuFyBbcREb/P2jaRgGY YAYhsfIiFykHNp5E7hLLXNOb2vAIHfOWp8oVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b7F6p2rSRygqvHYru2SLGvKt0GfcYNnt8R5WmW4GYg3hotAxD/xlTh3HWkRuF3++JV wrjVlxRygL73cqFQlz55JJjlz27f+e4952JXeqyeYLHExfA3LzzEzO3PJ7vCNdjpRGsV dUtSNGcWgCNGyAO4Y1430AuFm0QDThWjiVySY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D949E2E.7040902@googlemail.com> <910180C7-607F-43F2-A201-622B74225CB6@mac.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07D8B45D@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 00:33:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A while back..... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/108709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:33:51 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:05 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Basicaly my instrument is looping, Looping is one of my favorite instruments too! Especially in a duo or solo setup using a monophonic wind instrument. But lately I have started playing the Stick as a way to get away a bit from looping; with two fretboards and twelve strings you can instantly play parts that for example a flute needs the looper extension to pull off. In another sense I might say that I extend my playing with loopers for similar reasons that some folks take to the prepared piano or prepared guitar. It just makes it more fun to create music on the fly. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub