From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 01:49:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DFE618345A; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l3F47AZaP+PRe91UT+kmwWRSKIoUtCBzJvyMdfdrAjM=; b=hN/RBOSd8pKac3Ev5XBeXnUMGkltfQpFX3qoUg3a+SLJg4gItXskIWvPpiS/dyIFV3 htE62+DJulNAfe2G32ez2CAn8rPTqSDMtB/poEO/c3nuTqvc6nXtJuQ0AyC0HALlEZLZ nHIHm0bHxe8r+pZwk97eg83QhGPpziJPs58Gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rHdRFAyuTaz4S+RxE22lz9Rhj1WY81hxEJAT50RIGkjuyAyU+3SBg2gL0a1SYBKZpX WfDoMw2l1ruLPhV2StzZXXGcXEvrElzxDsDIV9ecpPdRbGgvg8OaLsH3awRD/TRzUkDR Xipai7bNDhG1UfaBmOcZJLUAoX3eN+ld0/Vf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:49:56 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I'm totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a member in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum machine tracks. It was banned by me, since when he kicked on his drum machine: 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sounding like a completely recorded song rather than like a collaborator. 2) The drum machine would be the only member of the band that was not playing live - it was like having a drummer who was completely ignoring the other musicians. I'd take it a step even further and say that many songs don't need to have all the "rock band" elements (rhythm, bass, chord progression). I agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the elements can be just as tedious as listening. I often feel like my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj sets. When I say magic shows, I'm not saying "the music is magic" - rather, I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loops. I do that by: --Using non-rhythmic loops. --If I use rhythmic loops, I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for a 4/4 song. Instead, I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7, so that that the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place every 4th loop repetition. --Playing occasional variations of the loop live. Say you have a drum loop. You could occasionally play an occasional bass drum or snare on top of the loop (not into the loop). Or even better, record 2 or 3 spare non-sequitur snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device that's cycling at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of course, whether that actually sounds good depends on the musical context. The DJ elements involve trying to keep an ear as to when a particular element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it's time to take it out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and start playing that part live again, then transition it to something else. Or play something that complements it on a separate loop and take the first loop away, making a transition into a different song. Another thing I often do to mask the task of me building up a pattern is to quickly build a loop of something non-melodic/non-rhythmic for the audience to listen to while you gradually build up the elements on another channel. I usually try to imitate field recordings, loop it in a non-predictable point, then start building rhythmic/melodic elements on a different device. My ears got tired of many contexts of rhythmic looped music at about the same time that rave music started getting old for me. I need my variation. Strangely, I can listen to irregular loops (such as in the much of the music of Rapoon) for much longer periods of time before I get bored. It accesses a more passive portion of my attention span. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 02:00:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16D4018345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-390810832 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 01:59:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-390810832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. Enjoy Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc --Apple-Mail-1-390810832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1  makes liberal use of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 .  The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that toggling between them creates the chord progression.  I'm continually  evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-1-390810832-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 03:18:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2990218345E; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 03:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=P/WFi9fuoLIaEuriHFrYcPRkii8kMRt6Lexjc9C4CjA=; b=qbJ3PfPakUKDI/xWd3RNOZS0V0sbjY/c8BDaZLY+SbFjyw25yuCjUTHZ/QwyW5OD+e UWRhRGJe7OJkwNtoemxaoKidmbmHNtk2xtHK6LL1IH4JjPuilH3muemZ1Yyl4ySCXkS4 RHXJCOw9INsrE7mQQ1SHl0OQbtc6cHzTZtzSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=TCPHxKg25Ml5obil1/n/ZIGynpGg2mJF8rKvD8Aaz4JI8fgdZL9Amh58mm+o7jA46y aJEJ5TkDeohhpSXvyEG0FsjEmYsjR/2fQ7rugScZBrZWgMCGBMTTuWLX8Yr2EoehEI+c LfUBE3nK7iO9V3tGAW6UKf7yd78DvZMK4zLCg= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-395553301 Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:18:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <00F97AC9-232F-4050-A3C1-267E245603EA@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 03:18:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-395553301 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I love it. Thank you for bringing me the joy of quantize replace. So = cool!=20 -Todd Matthews On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:59 PM, William Walker wrote: > This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use = of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of = quantized loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I = had some content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my = Zoom Q3 . The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of = quantized notes so that toggling between them creates the chord = progression. I'm continually evolving each of the loops by adding new = content as I replace the old. > Enjoy > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqWqRv7kHkdc --Apple-Mail-1-395553301 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = love it. Thank you for bringing me the joy of quantize replace. So = cool! 


-Todd = Matthews
On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:59 PM, William Walker = wrote:

 This lap steel = improv using the Looperlative LP-1  makes liberal use of the = quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized = loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some = content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 = .  The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized = notes so that toggling between them creates the chord progression. =  I'm continually  evolving each of the loops by adding new = content as I replace the = old.
Enjoy
 Bill



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--0016e6464d04211678049b31ed17-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 06:44:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35642183453; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 06:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11c593f8-c462-4747-ba1f-c0d26ea5e0af_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Rick's percussion post Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 06:43:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com>,<4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 06:43:58.0769 (UTC) FILETIME=[6771A210:01CBC1DB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 06:44:01 +0000 (UTC) --_11c593f8-c462-4747-ba1f-c0d26ea5e0af_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see this as performance vs pure music. I like to see someone pushing the = boundaries of possibility in performance but it's not enough in itself. It's only valid for me if the musical results are there. The goal must always be the quality of music=2C however it is achieved=2C p= re recorded=2C live=2C DJ's=2C singers et al. It's supposed to be all about the music isn't it ? If a drum loop sounds groovier than an attempt at making a guitar sound lik= e drums=2C use the loop I say! (and vice versa). =20 Open all doors - and close none!! =20 Peace =20 Gareth =20 > Date: Mon=2C 31 Jan 2011 17:49:56 -0800 > Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post > From: mattdavignon@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi all=2C >=20 > I'm totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a member > in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum machine > tracks. It was banned by me=2C since when he kicked on his drum machine: > 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sounding like a > completely recorded song rather than like a collaborator. > 2) The drum machine would be the only member of the band that was not > playing live - it was like having a drummer who was completely > ignoring the other musicians. >=20 > I'd take it a step even further and say that many songs don't need to > have all the "rock band" elements (rhythm=2C bass=2C chord progression). = I > agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the elements can > be just as tedious as listening. >=20 > I often feel like my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj > sets. When I say magic shows=2C I'm not saying "the music is magic" - > rather=2C I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loops. I do > that by: > --Using non-rhythmic loops. > --If I use rhythmic loops=2C I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for > a 4/4 song. Instead=2C I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7=2C so that that > the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place every 4th > loop repetition. > --Playing occasional variations of the loop live. Say you have a drum > loop. You could occasionally play an occasional bass drum or snare on > top of the loop (not into the loop). Or even better=2C record 2 or 3 > spare non-sequitur snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device > that's cycling at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of > course=2C whether that actually sounds good depends on the musical > context. >=20 > The DJ elements involve trying to keep an ear as to when a particular > element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it's time to take it > out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and start playing that > part live again=2C then transition it to something else. Or play > something that complements it on a separate loop and take the first > loop away=2C making a transition into a different song. >=20 > Another thing I often do to mask the task of me building up a pattern > is to quickly build a loop of something non-melodic/non-rhythmic for > the audience to listen to while you gradually build up the elements on > another channel. I usually try to imitate field recordings=2C loop it in > a non-predictable point=2C then start building rhythmic/melodic elements > on a different device. >=20 > My ears got tired of many contexts of rhythmic looped music at about > the same time that rave music started getting old for me. I need my > variation. Strangely=2C I can listen to irregular loops (such as in the > much of the music of Rapoon) for much longer periods of time before I > get bored. It accesses a more passive portion of my attention span. >=20 > --=20 > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >=20 = --_11c593f8-c462-4747-ba1f-c0d26ea5e0af_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see this as performance vs pure music. I like to see someone pushing the = boundaries of possibility =3Bin performance but it's not enough in itse= lf.
It's only valid for me if the musical results are there.
The goal must always be the quality of music=2C however it is achieved=2C p= re recorded=2C live=2C =3BDJ's=2C singers et al.
It's supposed to be all about the music isn't it ?
If a drum loop sounds =3Bgroovier than an attempt at making a guitar so= und like drums=2C use the loop I say! (and vice versa).
 =3B
Open all doors - =3Band close none!!
 =3B
Peace
 =3B
Gareth

 =3B
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 31 Jan 2011 17:49:56 -0800
>=3B Subject: Re: Rick'= s percussion post
>=3B From: mattdavignon@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi all=2C
>=3B >=3B I'm totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a me= mber
>=3B in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum ma= chine
>=3B tracks. It was banned by me=2C since when he kicked on his = drum machine:
>=3B 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sou= nding like a
>=3B completely recorded song rather than like a collabor= ator.
>=3B 2) The drum machine would be the only member of the band th= at was not
>=3B playing live - it was like having a drummer who was co= mpletely
>=3B ignoring the other musicians.
>=3B
>=3B I'd t= ake it a step even further and say that many songs don't need to
>=3B = have all the "rock band" elements (rhythm=2C bass=2C chord progression). I<= BR>>=3B agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the element= s can
>=3B be just as tedious as listening.
>=3B
>=3B I oft= en feel like my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj
>=3B = sets. When I say magic shows=2C I'm not saying "the music is magic" -
&g= t=3B rather=2C I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loops. I d= o
>=3B that by:
>=3B --Using non-rhythmic loops.
>=3B --If I= use rhythmic loops=2C I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for
>= =3B a 4/4 song. Instead=2C I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7=2C so that th= at
>=3B the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place ever= y 4th
>=3B loop repetition.
>=3B --Playing occasional variations = of the loop live. Say you have a drum
>=3B loop. You could occasionall= y play an occasional bass drum or snare on
>=3B top of the loop (not i= nto the loop). Or even better=2C record 2 or 3
>=3B spare non-sequitur= snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device
>=3B that's cycling = at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of
>=3B course=2C whe= ther that actually sounds good depends on the musical
>=3B context.>=3B
>=3B The DJ elements involve trying to keep an ear as to when= a particular
>=3B element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it'= s time to take it
>=3B out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and= start playing that
>=3B part live again=2C then transition it to some= thing else. Or play
>=3B something that complements it on a separate l= oop and take the first
>=3B loop away=2C making a transition into a di= fferent song.
>=3B
>=3B Another thing I often do to mask the tas= k of me building up a pattern
>=3B is to quickly build a loop of somet= hing non-melodic/non-rhythmic for
>=3B the audience to listen to while= you gradually build up the elements on
>=3B another channel. I usuall= y try to imitate field recordings=2C loop it in
>=3B a non-predictable= point=2C then start building rhythmic/melodic elements
>=3B on a diff= erent device.
>=3B
>=3B My ears got tired of many contexts of rh= ythmic looped music at about
>=3B the same time that rave music starte= d getting old for me. I need my
>=3B variation. Strangely=2C I can lis= ten to irregular loops (such as in the
>=3B much of the music of Rapoo= n) for much longer periods of time before I
>=3B get bored. It accesse= s a more passive portion of my attention span.
>=3B
>=3B --
= >=3B Matt Davignon
>=3B mattdavignon@gmail.com
>=3B www.ribosom= emusic.com
>=3B Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>=3B
= = --_11c593f8-c462-4747-ba1f-c0d26ea5e0af_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 07:10:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7478518345C; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:10:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_08287306-6e87-4061-af7d-ca6a6c8cfc62_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:10:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 07:10:40.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[22508080:01CBC1DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:10:43 +0000 (UTC) --_08287306-6e87-4061-af7d-ca6a6c8cfc62_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lovely music Bill! Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit.. =20 Gareth =20 From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Mon=2C 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of th= e quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized l= oops =2C and creating the form as I go=2C and I must admit that I had some = content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . = The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so tha= t toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually ev= olving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. Enjoy Bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqWqRv7kHkdc = --_08287306-6e87-4061-af7d-ca6a6c8cfc62_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lovely music =3BBill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit..
 =3B
Gareth

 =3B
From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon=2C 31 Jan 2011 17:59= :50 -0800

 =3BThis lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 =  =3Bmakes liberal use of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 = different tracks of quantized loops =2C and creating the form as I go=2C an= d I must admit that I had some content that i had already recorded before i= pressed play on my Zoom Q3 .  =3BThe idea was to have each loop be a c= hord made up of quantized notes so that toggling between them creates the c= hord progression.  =3BI'm continually  =3Bevolving each of the loop= s by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
 =3BBill
= = --_08287306-6e87-4061-af7d-ca6a6c8cfc62_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 07:14:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82281183474; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0Xfprk7eXuYS+1q8+84cmTm96u1MtvDRJY3J37lDbcU=; b=FRGcblPPaD6Y0N9egn/YY5kxNF6O+c+nOl9VKFB4hqTnOTbjZmXqT26RXcFbOpx6/I 6NlLVsd0R0RDWY6TDkxnCcV1Tf8pmQ09HhOHJPNA1h5eFNTDIMZSca66GhHqYZq7AOJ0 M1OqE5imEn1JBGZnx88Z5QyxdG8zZ6gy4DzH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ibsruLz5IGrad0ZpNdu/259wrRsUtg8cx+YtGjJLHZXTR6cJNLHhVmwntR6R00sf/Y Cmdf6LsuF4fc7ECz/enKN0CdFlJiEpkx8sjfGsCY1gWuNVUEmFRImsqSwnQmrx/Ss8Bk 109VzM9hEG8h9D4vWzDVZeAS7/j+BHWh4giVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 02:14:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it absolutely fascinating. It seems like there are some great musicians and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it. My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will send you the album free, just shoot me an email. After that, I took a brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography. I have become very interested in working on music again and in the live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that many people were doing this besides a few people. I know next to nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the solution to what I would like to do. All of this is overwhelming and exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my goals, some of you more experienced loopers could at least point me in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music. First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. I don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful. Thanks very much. Best, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 09:00:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EC7A18345E; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mLf347WCghhjEl74P67m9kHA43GMDoV8ZAnTps7czsk=; b=YulX80Rb/LlGJ5YjoUR+KfL0VhpeYWTGjLxAtIWOjlk7QBTAvLowJUNtc1mTC7VISx lGIlaJac+WvL9vaC4DW/WBZkydEiCq1xldPX34XpLPsNdLXkuoR+wXcqCSUGBrsgnYMU F3gbbNPXow1qY77Wo89DYf9yp+3041n7adRTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xCKObEy/qjR4r7K7oiZve5wpqZ6pozCeFrBTYH11oXoC3BPogZ0b/VuguRbzgkgOyC tIzsQN0a7uF+hdO9DXvPbaXyZLcxlpbsgYnlaFjR3Ezxxk7WB0GVxg8PbtLfNPTCX9C0 yY0w1I7tHxlwdSCzdFfqgWwSprMEfr+NjBMrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:00:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b39cf22ec7049b34c2f7 Resent-Message-ID: <4r3yC.A.UXD.ku8RNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:00:20 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b39cf22ec7049b34c2f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for 30 minutes, if the shit is good! :-) 2011/2/1 Gareth Whittock > I see this as performance vs pure music. I like to see someone pushing the > boundaries of possibility in performance but it's not enough in itself. > It's only valid for me if the musical results are there. > The goal must always be the quality of music, however it is achieved, pre > recorded, live, DJ's, singers et al. > It's supposed to be all about the music isn't it ? > If a drum loop sounds groovier than an attempt at making a guitar sound > like drums, use the loop I say! (and vice versa). > > Open all doors - and close none!! > > Peace > > Gareth > > > > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:49:56 -0800 > > Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post > > From: mattdavignon@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a member > > in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum machine > > tracks. It was banned by me, since when he kicked on his drum machine: > > 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sounding like a > > completely recorded song rather than like a collaborator. > > 2) The drum machine would be the only member of the band that was not > > playing live - it was like having a drummer who was completely > > ignoring the other musicians. > > > > I'd take it a step even further and say that many songs don't need to > > have all the "rock band" elements (rhythm, bass, chord progression). I > > agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the elements can > > be just as tedious as listening. > > > > I often feel like my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj > > sets. When I say magic shows, I'm not saying "the music is magic" - > > rather, I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loops. I do > > that by: > > --Using non-rhythmic loops. > > --If I use rhythmic loops, I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for > > a 4/4 song. Instead, I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7, so that that > > the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place every 4th > > loop repetition. > > --Playing occasional variations of the loop live. Say you have a drum > > loop. You could occasionally play an occasional bass drum or snare on > > top of the loop (not into the loop). Or even better, record 2 or 3 > > spare non-sequitur snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device > > that's cycling at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of > > course, whether that actually sounds good depends on the musical > > context. > > > > The DJ elements involve trying to keep an ear as to when a particular > > element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it's time to take it > > out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and start playing that > > part live again, then transition it to something else. Or play > > something that complements it on a separate loop and take the first > > loop away, making a transition into a different song. > > > > Another thing I often do to mask the task of me building up a pattern > > is to quickly build a loop of something non-melodic/non-rhythmic for > > the audience to listen to while you gradually build up the elements on > > another channel. I usually try to imitate field recordings, loop it in > > a non-predictable point, then start building rhythmic/melodic elements > > on a different device. > > > > My ears got tired of many contexts of rhythmic looped music at about > > the same time that rave music started getting old for me. I need my > > variation. Strangely, I can listen to irregular loops (such as in the > > much of the music of Rapoon) for much longer periods of time before I > > get bored. It accesses a more passive portion of my attention span. > > > > -- > > Matt Davignon > > mattdavignon@gmail.com > > www.ribosomemusic.com > > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00151747b39cf22ec7049b34c2f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for = 30 minutes, if the shit is good! :-)

2011= /2/1 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
I see this as performance vs pure music. I like to see someone pushing the = boundaries of possibility=A0in performance but it's not enough in itsel= f.
It's only valid for me if the musical results are there.
The goal must always be the quality of music, however it is achieved, pre r= ecorded, live,=A0DJ's, singers et al.
It's supposed to be all about the music isn't it ?
If a drum loop sounds=A0groovier than an attempt at making a guitar sound l= ike drums, use the loop I say! (and vice versa).
=A0
Open all doors -=A0and close none!!
=A0
Peace
=A0
Gareth

=A0
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:49:56 -0800
> Subject: Re: Rick's = percussion post
> From: mattdavignon@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com

>
> Hi all,
>
> I&#= 39;m totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a member
= > in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum machine
> tracks. It was banned by me, since when he kicked on his drum machine:=
> 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sounding like a> completely recorded song rather than like a collaborator.
> 2) = The drum machine would be the only member of the band that was not
> playing live - it was like having a drummer who was completely
>= ignoring the other musicians.
>
> I'd take it a step even= further and say that many songs don't need to
> have all the &qu= ot;rock band" elements (rhythm, bass, chord progression). I
> agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the elements can=
> be just as tedious as listening.
>
> I often feel lik= e my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj
> sets. When I = say magic shows, I'm not saying "the music is magic" -
> rather, I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loop= s. I do
> that by:
> --Using non-rhythmic loops.
> --If I= use rhythmic loops, I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for
> a 4/4 song. Instead, I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7, so that t= hat
> the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place every= 4th
> loop repetition.
> --Playing occasional variations of th= e loop live. Say you have a drum
> loop. You could occasionally play an occasional bass drum or snare on<= br>> top of the loop (not into the loop). Or even better, record 2 or 3<= br>> spare non-sequitur snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device=
> that's cycling at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of=
> course, whether that actually sounds good depends on the musical> context.
>
> The DJ elements involve trying to keep an = ear as to when a particular
> element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it's time to t= ake it
> out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and start playin= g that
> part live again, then transition it to something else. Or pl= ay
> something that complements it on a separate loop and take the first> loop away, making a transition into a different song.
>
>= ; Another thing I often do to mask the task of me building up a pattern
> is to quickly build a loop of something non-melodic/non-rhythmic for> the audience to listen to while you gradually build up the elements = on
> another channel. I usually try to imitate field recordings, loop= it in
> a non-predictable point, then start building rhythmic/melodic elements=
> on a different device.
>
> My ears got tired of many = contexts of rhythmic looped music at about
> the same time that rave = music started getting old for me. I need my
> variation. Strangely, I can listen to irregular loops (such as in the<= br>> much of the music of Rapoon) for much longer periods of time before= I
> get bored. It accesses a more passive portion of my attention sp= an.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> mattdavignon@gmail.com
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
=



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--00151747b39cf22ec7049b34c2f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 10:27:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F51818345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=44z5h40bZalXw0wu3Stj5J+lUfKIizk8aEUafaHOk3E=; b=a3J6BvWaBA33sSFm2ip4mwsb9wHzqSr3aqr+204/woSyoAq1ab7zkvUoIcR+PrWee2 EksCeNrcodTutWWXGY+nMBwbxWwfWLpUnIsVtQpQUfAMDy87wFQdecIai3o+ybKIT8IN 29Hjc7pUPU2R30bwi8x3JIFMK6VQ/kv4fqNJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=tjUpyhWmy3Q63sB7IkVjYU9+kC+NWBR736Gw2O6ddffILGbUD4NyKKkjCBwqEzwyfl ODgXfuJrvPokqsU9AR7055J4PO12UpDLeYNtqJ/9TPkdERgknkbD2qfT7AAZLC9v0336 6EGt+b6R3h6VhQlvgF5T9/mPFSozk0tO4QGHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:27:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2v-V3Z7i8UvNNvvrIHw2R-DKJT0 Message-ID: Subject: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496139996bf049b35fa6d Resent-Message-ID: <4Cqx5D.A.DmH.QA-RNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:27:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496139996bf049b35fa6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! CLICK HERE!! http://db.tt/nxXIDRB Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea. Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty heavy build this weekend. I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software. SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. http://db.tt/nxXIDRB Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate! Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496139996bf049b35fa6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HER= E!!
http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Oh = sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I am building a compu= ter game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming e= tc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from = 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of no= te was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember t= he one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) a= nyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game wh= ich is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced = using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatical= ly backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a sl= ightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it= aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty= heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people o= nto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this l= ink... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Now Im sure th= at many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazing, for those o= f you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first= time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate!

Mark



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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf305496139996bf049b35fa6d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 10:52:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78A4A183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 571174088/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.25.88/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.25.88 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRlY/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="571174088" Message-ID: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:52:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <75aOC.A.Wx.YX-RNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:52:08 +0000 (UTC) John Singletary wrote: > First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, > iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the > ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up > another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of > these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to > have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures > of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I > would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately > after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent > to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar > amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the > system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot > pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of > how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. Hi John, the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the Looperlative LP1. It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. (so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as Master, then any addition loops can be any made to fit exact numbers of measures. It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). You'll also need a small mixer. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 11:11:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 088D318345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yl1i+zSRkxc23zBtZ6hMYhphTyRMpUfWknohNNBU8ZM=; b=rEX8YOeb00uN1PVRWDZqnJR9XsEbvtvPvkKJ5AwkwUGH7XbE6WdvaEUJHLZVolpVl9 2UuegJmXa6XaYzST5Sqgjp+TOY1eRHz34WXg6MEns41LdrL+y854rH7oEl8muitvo/Nu NmgHc0l3Lyx0N+9diByRHyg3SNzNfkaZO5RG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XCeDxgj3X2S+nJJXyNj9NEhkoLPkDzPJJV5AIT0fkKLPLpYX2kdjYiYfJqIJj1LnZb ej24yGcgEGgOiYGVnqWj+Hn4j0rWv597II2WVBbWwd/OZ8rwPjQEyMZ4jnnVTlLFDWAg OW9B4JYPnpF1VgFPn1S7MWkkKLxieizqSPcKw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:11:42 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd299a6ec4b10049b3698ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:11:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd299a6ec4b10049b3698ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that was lovely! surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do this in iMovie. one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well! bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! anyway, that was really great...more please! sim On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Lovely music Bill! > Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking > kinda spoils the atmos a bit.. > > Gareth > > > ------------------------------ > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 > > > This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of > the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized > loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some > content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . > The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so > that toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually > evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. > Enjoy > Bill > h > ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc > --000e0cd299a6ec4b10049b3698ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that was lovely!

surely taking an audio feed to the computer and the= n merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're ru= nning a mac, you can do this in iMovie.

one thing that bill does ext= remely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is = that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting butt= ons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well!

bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind= of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filte= rs on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it = some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun!

anyway, that was really great...more please!

sim


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine= @live.co.uk> wrote:
Lovely music=A0Bill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit..
=A0
Gareth

=A0
From: billwalke= r@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: = yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800

=
=A0This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 =A0makes liberal u= se of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of= quantized loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I h= ad some content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoo= m Q3 . =A0The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized no= tes so that toggling between them creates the chord progression. =A0I'm= continually =A0evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I repla= ce the old.
Enjoy
=A0Bill
=

--000e0cd299a6ec4b10049b3698ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 11:20:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 495D818345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MRyq+YjgN9LoDMJnrOrLlQFTn44ukwf2YC65lHsmX0E=; b=Inou63xz01reYf5qSMur9+oTY78Mgp/tZNN80/M3OdUeQYrsfYzKdRPg/RpJOcQsni 7Bmo3v6+Tovm4yXhO10NMutIao9cG2HYwkKL/puop7Xe9PyJckTRJnK+QwqzYtzkyTgm R4qUbQGPudMmqdNXu1m1DRjukJmYzCL2ox+nE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=N7amBAKJeLaXVGcuTVH3frktbRVz6Cx0pXU4K9JfuIf2S0Dy4k4xnqUFdb/CtQJWd2 TRSD/UULjY/q3QuRKysWXXqsIGCvN64M4wz0DjyzaIvLV2sCHYXcXN38w8RrD5VcK8J8 14LnxNVBJ9KkaPtNq6z+eqZPvcZHvEKUrEeT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:20:45 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b5b8477ddf049b36b9b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:20:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b5b8477ddf049b36b9b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop. mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc sim On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrote: > John Singletary wrote: > > First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, >> iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the >> ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up >> another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of >> these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to >> have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures >> of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I >> would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately >> after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent >> to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar >> amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the >> system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot >> pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of >> how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. >> > > Hi John, > the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the > Looperlative LP1. > It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo > outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. > (so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) > To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as > Master, then any addition loops can be any made to > fit exact numbers of measures. > > It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe > want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). > > You'll also need a small mixer. > > andy butler > > > --000e0cd4b5b8477ddf049b36b9b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audi= o interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.

mobius would be = a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated= input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own = instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it wil= l also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a foot= pedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes e= tc

sim

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, = andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
John Singletary wrote:

=A0First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.

Hi John,
the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the
Looperlative LP1.
It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo
outputs and have individual control over volume and pan.
(so with panning that's 6 mono outputs)
To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as
Master, then any addition loops can be any made to
fit exact numbers of measures.

It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe
want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes).

You'll also need a small mixer.

andy butler



--000e0cd4b5b8477ddf049b36b9b7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 12:13:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CCF618345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296562379; bh=VNDU9wanFpwc1GXegbbb1UmppFhm8Fw1P/ktHr2HUaw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0gWNFe4jXkxeQZ0Ig5vNmF7oD9aw3Hn5T6YxB3tZN7037yHMtYAMgnD5AeREJSvXAHLKfxGCVi4jPePN3XgfYvD24EkyuFg1jFT9roDcHEBcoX8JpENQL6M1iHk3JCcEBJcUOE+CP6RYV/skXK6RnbFDMJRrRr3GZN63tTiydjw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fy+5J7+thFJCNtKXb3mRiNKUCf7Z9ZU1P7Qgj6kJb/sP4kVNlPQU9ICqoA53vxjKKEm/R2/hHdiQWuD4mNOlbMji8k3MXELnfnKlLL/BV2sxz/FH5sdNsnU0WjjzEW35aClNw27sn7qYhp1FHXGmnMs+H8/5TuIGe0LxRBuPeNU=; Message-ID: <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1kEMsZ0VM1l03v5dGvySZq3YJpqDTvCigdGxmo6vIEYTHgP qs000S44F4B2LNVcrzRvPH0GbQPbspgyjJ73RAuB3ulLQIttgJL.suLSkKJK XCykIwhnwFvdVU_gkQ4APQYlgknsCUGnlYJ7w.8YVCDszcNlRvV..1i_J9ZY OqzOLV53uYmp1uj0ksLyqt.O49bfpaWASKGSjp2jKrqyzfO7KTEyuIJDXTlh vHBf8PCty1.FNdDKNHhbuEwxdH3b07YwpCk9tiWK4o7rJ4TbIFiRJ7cIxw3d TYXoffAJqWWVwsWlM9oVrwEMqiL8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 04:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-577805433-1296562378=:61595" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:13:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-577805433-1296562378=:61595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am doing something very close to that with LP1 Looper and Gordius Big Little Giant MIDI foot controller. You will also need a mixer with enough aux sends and preferably muting under MIDI control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop. mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc sim On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrote: John Singletary wrote: > > > First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, >>iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the >>ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up >>another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of >>these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to >>have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures >>of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I >>would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately >>after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent >>to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar >>amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the >>system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot >>pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of >>how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. >> Hi John, >the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the >Looperlative LP1. >It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo >outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. >(so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) >To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as >Master, then any addition loops can be any made to >fit exact numbers of measures. > >It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe >want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). > >You'll also need a small mixer. > >andy butler > > > --0-577805433-1296562378=:61595 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am doing something very close to that with LP1 Looper and Gordius Big Little Giant MIDI foot controller. You will also need a mixer with enough aux sends and preferably muting under MIDI control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway...

Antony Hequet

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice

if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.

mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc

sim

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
John Singletary wrote:

 First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.

Hi John,
the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the
Looperlative LP1.
It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo
outputs and have individual control over volume and pan.
(so with panning that's 6 mono outputs)
To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as
Master, then any addition loops can be any made to
fit exact numbers of measures.

It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe
want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes).

You'll also need a small mixer.

andy butler




--0-577805433-1296562378=:61595-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 12:41:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E973518345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:41:05 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for > 30 minutes, if the shit is good! :-) Yeah, Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping single song that just builds and builds with intensity. It's just very rare in my experience. It's just my aesthetic so I don't mean to try and convince everyone of it, but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally when I listen to a live looper even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. If a musician is creatively engaging the audience with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last loopfestival performances) I don't think it is destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. Honestly, I think most live loopers fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom in such a case. Of course, performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a performance. In other words, though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important in a performance, I honestly don't think it is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint. NOT a musicians' standpoint. In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to small or large band performances in many different genres), I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part of a musical performance and it's effectiveness. Visual presentation, audience interaction, even lighting and multi-media presentation can have a huge effect on audience response. Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but I've taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. It shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers decisions........indeed, sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an audience or to challenge them with new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of each looping festival has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience engaged. It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, who uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to bottom. She takes a long time to build her loops, too. but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her performances, despite being some of the lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 12:44:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7ADB18345C; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D48002C.9030005@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:44:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: loopers-delight Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:44:36 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking > this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. > > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB just did. good luck! rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 13:22:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C86518345B; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=937CBPbI6HvB67W+S4SXAsP1RaXI+WmUp6Ml8wdhgCE=; b=sR+mx1bjDlq73SRTL203QcFdGuaX9jqZrB/IouiQOqb5eaRQAo4Csx8Xrnc6itjGbP 74uwCx7IFJFy4whstd8ad8hoa8j3jShammus9VH3ruB/cJ22Yo+5X8dzD+0usNlgppZp UX+i5r63ir450QKrF3fS+Fe5ww+v/NroyCiK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jKfFPcbsNcX194sY56mo27n0HwxCS2ZiZat6x69dXrYaaTxSP14VinhEPfhbFOJ8oA yItoZwJlv5Z3xCzFCfdKF8oMM2lX07kl9e8q9oLd8MIuQQAS327DjWfGv6se1PsJO+IM 5W/zt2Bo22+Fl+532fyJfBAwEMQdeEBzmiT5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e641dc045c2d73049b386dfd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:22:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016e641dc045c2d73049b386dfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Mark, good luck, I already use Dropbox and I have to say that it is one of the best and most useful service's I have ever used. Just amazing for musicians. I think Jim Goodin turned me onto it. best, J On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! > > CLICK HERE!! > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? > As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly > as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I > think I have a pretty neat idea. > > Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 > years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note > was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the > one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) > anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. > We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. > > Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being > produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is > automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project > (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same > file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. > > However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty > heavy build this weekend. > I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up > for it, and d/l the software. > > SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this > link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. > > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is > amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that > this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but > now Im desperate! > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --0016e641dc045c2d73049b386dfd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Mark, good luck, I already use Dropbox and I have to say that it is one= of the best and most useful service's I have ever used. Just amazing f= or musicians. I think Jim Goodin turned me onto it.

best,

J

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark fr= ancombe <mar= k@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HER= E!!
http://db.tt/nxXI= DRB

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I a= m building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise = (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty= neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from = 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of no= te was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember t= he one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) a= nyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game wh= ich is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced = using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatical= ly backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a sl= ightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it= aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty= heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people o= nto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this l= ink... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB
=
Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazin= g, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is= NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im d= esperate!

Mark



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.= com
www.ordo= abkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

--0016e641dc045c2d73049b386dfd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 13:37:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90629183460; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VhvcQyAqFs4Xm6ow7JQlMhdhouDNA5LLbXbj2gKhPjg=; b=PJdScdzu4BOG+R3LNgg/Guao7k7FRnChjKOHO9ladh82MU6lYszGwvfecBj1Wvzs4C LI1jKf5KLpujb9g0esTpA8No/F+gklDtTU9VNjcaiWtxN/DDO0LwtGkCdtNqcEKsKzUF DnNormtzZM2dTcENBHZKN9zqLdv4NpKUEZUwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YpfcH9TQsmJMyvFTGGlFlDbdvHufpRCLFkRhtS5yXi/0GCvLjzAJM2bwqsm2RoOVcJ 4HVOpKMQ8smOrf7nUHiLlQWRaTPZx5lAqgEm9I4Elo9MlfZArWtSbHSx83likKh1OFqs QgfnykapVf1Elewyk9syRenEH/+/bZ5rl/TyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433c7e7afd56049b38a149 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433c7e7afd56049b38a149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill's piece was so haunting and moving! Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere! Loved it! 2011/2/1 Simeon Harris > that was lovely! > > surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the > camera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do > this in iMovie. > > one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't > have to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as > he's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as > well! > > bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of > quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters on > it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some > from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! > > anyway, that was really great...more please! > > sim > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > >> Lovely music Bill! >> Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking >> kinda spoils the atmos a bit.. >> >> Gareth >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: billwalker@baymoon.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace >> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 >> >> >> This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of >> the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized >> loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some >> content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . >> The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so >> that toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually >> evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. >> Enjoy >> Bill >> h >> ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc >> > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf30433c7e7afd56049b38a149 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill's piece was so haunting and moving!

Made my morning: wonder= ful playing and the "live" sound made it even more amazing, that = it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere!

Loved it!

2011/2/1 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
that was lovely!

surely taking an audio feed to the computer and the= n merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're ru= nning a mac, you can do this in iMovie.

one thing that bill does ext= remely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is = that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting butt= ons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well!

bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind= of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filte= rs on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it = some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun!

anyway, that was really great...more please!

sim


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Lovely music=A0Bill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit..
=A0
Gareth

=A0
From: billwalke= r@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: = yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800


=A0This l= ap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 =A0makes liberal use of the qua= ntize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized lo= ops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some conte= nt that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . =A0The= idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that t= oggling between them creates the chord progression. =A0I'm continually = =A0evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
=A0Bill
=




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf30433c7e7afd56049b38a149-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 13:40:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973DE183476; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FTTwIfzLKnrFv7iLIa+NmXJ19JOPn+OgFAct5sEPR54=; b=izmws6vGJZar34q3m1RVo7cuKaVhK+T8Dukq3xTuhym9cUPtVOXxujJTmkK2onhEKg MN261sYlybyaBT0QXYMA5E/Kh35B9izrceX2ElJCATR2fwyRucThGnVsowkqFMcSjn0/ pXKRGJxRpNDXa/SL6+Z3zuX0SAXUewIute9ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UpQYy34cibCRmJ89q2cuatkuGYcSaeskkzXBDxUn6g3obYM1J0Ls8l41iaMfiyPdse m2oJDaB75ZzrFSQVEuGdOvXDmjii4QZdIsGs1ytqEhWPlPdsANhuczrV6HJOzaHLukhu K6sj98V7e4PybVia3TS+lRQVdqRUUtf1Dc+lY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> References: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:40:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4f1b19c52049b38ada1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:40:42 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4f1b19c52049b38ada1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her performances" that should read on my looping tombstone, if I'm lucky ;-) If one should have a guiding line, that sentence captures my "ideal". -Petri- 2011/2/1 Rick Walker > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > >> I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for 30 >> minutes, if the shit is good! :-) >> > Yeah, Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping single > song that just builds and builds > with intensity. It's just very rare in my experience. It's just my > aesthetic so I don't mean to try and > convince everyone of it, but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally > when I listen to a live looper > even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. If a > musician is creatively engaging the audience > with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last > loopfestival performances) I don't think it is > destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. > Honestly, I think most live loopers > fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom in > such a case. Of course, > performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a > performance. In other words, > though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important in > a performance, I honestly don't think it > is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint. > NOT a musicians' standpoint. > > In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of > different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to small > or large band performances in many different > genres), I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part of a > musical performance and it's effectiveness. > Visual presentation, audience interaction, even lighting and multi-media > presentation can have a huge effect on > audience response. > > Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but I've > taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping > festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be > garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. It > shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers > decisions........indeed, > sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an > audience or to challenge them with > new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. > > Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of > each looping festival > has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience engaged. > > It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, who > uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice > for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to > bottom. She takes a long time to build her > loops, too. but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her > performances, despite being some of the > lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a4f1b19c52049b38ada1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her per= formances"

that should read on my looping tombstone, if I'm= lucky ;-)

If one should have a guiding line, that sentence captures= my "ideal".

-Petri-

2011/2/1 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for = 30 minutes, if the shit is good! :-)
Yeah, =A0Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping single= song that just builds and builds
with intensity. =A0 =A0 =A0It's just very rare in my experience. =A0 = =A0 It's just my aesthetic so I don't mean to try and
convince everyone of it, =A0but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally = when I listen to a live looper
even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. =A0 If a m= usician is creatively engaging the audience
with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last loopf= estival performances) I don't think it is
destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. =A0= Honestly, =A0I think most live loopers
fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom in = such a case. =A0 Of course,
performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a pe= rformance. =A0 =A0In other words,
though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important in= a performance, =A0I honestly don't think it
is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint. = =A0NOT a musicians' standpoint.

=A0In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of
different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to small = or large band performances in many different
genres), =A0I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part of= a musical performance and it's effectiveness.
Visual presentation, =A0audience interaction, even lighting and multi-media= presentation can have a huge effect on
audience response.

=A0Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but= I've taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the= looping festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot ca= n be garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn'= t. =A0 =A0 =A0It shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers d= ecisions........indeed,
sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate a= n audience or to challenge them with
new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch.

Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of ea= ch looping festival
has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience engaged.=

It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, w= ho uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice
for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to botto= m. =A0 =A0She takes a long time to build her
loops, too. =A0 but there is something very visceral and 'real' abo= ut her performances, despite being some of the
lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival.




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a4f1b19c52049b38ada1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 13:44:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 329F9183473; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7PeyFFu/5irFSYIUjrYtZsrBXer+T1RO8ZXtu1C85m8=; b=eWFtdtnGuqNFmUp9+4DrPDxCvkBfRfIxhQHBAFN8GG0nFLQLmIIrBYPI6ZGXa6jHqM SDKbmlY4midv8N5wi9j1apy+hH1xPaUDpZ4LMT/K6w4PE9aIOEg4XIErnMC5g/u2pMI+ igtiB+rjkyqMAeXWSxO0LY/4g0E+Vt/e4bz4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O9HrMzdUoKHGROnnCBp9ald+oDgjrR/Y9XBz14zLZdn0KbsEwcz8GXXcl5Qf8633xG UDL6uV1D/hiXg3Ai8/233XUy5jjl5//lNnMFe1pQ1TBwtSzvc5ybQYBygD2JAHQ7MepK 6YNR7Q9bhF7qsa6OqFMUV0XPu68WMv/k1w0PU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:44:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd403523cca0d049b38bb0a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:44:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd403523cca0d049b38bb0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just lovely! I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, even though I like the live feel a lot! :) On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Bill's piece was so haunting and moving! > > Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more > amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere! > > Loved it! > > 2011/2/1 Simeon Harris > > that was lovely! >> >> surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the >> camera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do >> this in iMovie. >> >> one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't >> have to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as >> he's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as >> well! >> >> bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of >> quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters on >> it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some >> from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! >> >> anyway, that was really great...more please! >> >> sim >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock > > wrote: >> >>> Lovely music Bill! >>> Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking >>> kinda spoils the atmos a bit.. >>> >>> Gareth >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: billwalker@baymoon.com >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace >>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 >>> >>> >>> This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of >>> the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized >>> loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some >>> content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . >>> The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so >>> that toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually >>> evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. >>> Enjoy >>> Bill >>> h >>> ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc >>> >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --000e0cd403523cca0d049b38bb0a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just lovely!
I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches dis= turb me a bit, even though I like the live feel a lot! :)

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen = <aikuinen@gmail.= com> wrote:
Bill's piece was so haunting and moving= !

Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound = made it even more amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere!<= br>
Loved it!

2011/2/1 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com><= /span>

that was lovely!

surely taking an audio feed to the computer and the= n merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're ru= nning a mac, you can do this in iMovie.

one thing that bill does ext= remely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is = that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting butt= ons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well!

bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind= of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filte= rs on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it = some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun!

anyway, that was really great...more please!

sim


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Lovely music=A0Bill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit..
=A0
Gareth

=A0
From: billwalke= r@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: = yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800


=A0This l= ap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 =A0makes liberal use of the qua= ntize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized lo= ops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some conte= nt that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . =A0The= idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that t= oggling between them creates the chord progression. =A0I'm continually = =A0evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
=A0Bill
=




--
Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-

--000e0cd403523cca0d049b38bb0a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 14:40:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88251183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <908AD14A-BB0A-4BFA-969D-BDD3DA813C2F@1800dialword.com> <4D448C1C.1000704@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E439472-0B7E-4464-BBD9-146013F63477@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: Rick's percussion post Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:39:02 -0500 thread-index: AcvCHdL7QLOQZt2iQP+GaU/nEZiX9A== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 14:40:06.0494 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB2287E0:01CBC21D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Really great thoughts, ideas and concepts Matt. Thank you!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm totally on board with what most of what Rick says. I have a member > in one of my bands who attempted to use pre-recorded drum machine > tracks. It was banned by me, since when he kicked on his drum machine: > 1) The rhythm would be too dense - it jumped in sounding like a > completely recorded song rather than like a collaborator. > 2) The drum machine would be the only member of the band that was not > playing live - it was like having a drummer who was completely > ignoring the other musicians. > > I'd take it a step even further and say that many songs don't need to > have all the "rock band" elements (rhythm, bass, chord progression). I > agree with Mark that waiting for someone to build all the elements can > be just as tedious as listening. > > I often feel like my solo sets combine elements of magic shows and dj > sets. When I say magic shows, I'm not saying "the music is magic" - > rather, I'm trying to create illusions that I'm not using loops. I do > that by: > --Using non-rhythmic loops. > --If I use rhythmic loops, I don't loop in phrase repetitions of 4 for > a 4/4 song. Instead, I'll loop on repetitions of 5 or 7, so that that > the elements of the drum loop only fall in the same place every 4th > loop repetition. > --Playing occasional variations of the loop live. Say you have a drum > loop. You could occasionally play an occasional bass drum or snare on > top of the loop (not into the loop). Or even better, record 2 or 3 > spare non-sequitur snares and/or kicks on a separate looping device > that's cycling at a different interval. Voila - you have fills! Of > course, whether that actually sounds good depends on the musical > context. > > The DJ elements involve trying to keep an ear as to when a particular > element gets too repetitive. That's a clue that it's time to take it > out. One way I like is to shut off the loop and start playing that > part live again, then transition it to something else. Or play > something that complements it on a separate loop and take the first > loop away, making a transition into a different song. > > Another thing I often do to mask the task of me building up a pattern > is to quickly build a loop of something non-melodic/non-rhythmic for > the audience to listen to while you gradually build up the elements on > another channel. I usually try to imitate field recordings, loop it in > a non-predictable point, then start building rhythmic/melodic elements > on a different device. > > My ears got tired of many contexts of rhythmic looped music at about > the same time that rave music started getting old for me. I need my > variation. Strangely, I can listen to irregular loops (such as in the > much of the music of Rapoon) for much longer periods of time before I > get bored. It accesses a more passive portion of my attention span. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 15:00:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DDA2183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AV02PQaFGr94xpR7zF582g3WsFeJHxSYj6v2RII278o=; b=RpiS1kz6c69uWD5kAZXd+wdF5Z69zJHqLhIDcY1pmUQFE6Uc6p2/+S0jhLlnaTvO5H MBtddke/vYo3IuUGL8hRfhL7/dT3y6IP2MRnwCdgqO3H6U964eoz90ARfzfV12g0/W7e Wp0IG7gTvmbAUTj38dndu+51xJsBfBBLK1cTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mo7cAxAT1GvBDbzOODzoHFvPjBIwx2QOrm4aKrzykMpASSu1shLdXwmiGQtCaq5fWI mqfFWh+J5BRfwJfGD+DUZUIqYMggNeyEJJZprWt/vNz5jZMXSkWIZZ4fiAdE/DOG91ss 17LtmPdQUGVDllx/cXikedDSOh9NlSNxjVdxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 06:58:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Orange! From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215048e3b295db9049b39c305 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:00:26 +0000 (UTC) --002215048e3b295db9049b39c305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's cool, though I wish they'd just sell the case so I could build a computer inside of it. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=163 > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --002215048e3b295db9049b39c305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's cool, though I wish they'd just sell the case so I could bui= ld a computer inside of it.

On Mon, Jan 3= 1, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.ora= ngeamps.com/features.asp?ID=3D163



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimo= n
--002215048e3b295db9049b39c305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 15:05:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42669183473; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IH6VXYiLPJ30k1TvprWUcc9HNwaBpzZXVsvAL+9cGeY=; b=uNuabF51Y9YTsXMDMF9mg/ukIEU6I0olbvddY5z6cM4U8EPjdD7oWQRA+Whp19zLlf OLxSse63KvWkgHa8f/75x/vcyfoWumsUeyn5EXX7fTxPNIxAEUWkZxbRpmKv3HQeoz3r fov3dWmBfxxWWgF4bmPeax1pjfD6Cg+3qn9jg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vk58ujt7vkXHJQPTWv152F74qaldIO3AGE904GYK5TLROtKk8djtzL5GsA4bMjJ6vA nmzjOokUM1jAuCeQabJXcqCpYXruxCjh522Nq0ysQqTX6BJuyChGkUFbmrPrqIgwqQqQ Jlzeb+WssH+m6iStjUhqOclw/s2LhUBs0S51Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:05:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e83e2f48d61049b39dc65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:05:30 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e83e2f48d61049b39dc65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 done. nifty app too. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! > > CLICK HERE!! > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? > As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly > as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I > think I have a pretty neat idea. > > Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 > years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note > was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the > one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) > anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. > We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. > > Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being > produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is > automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project > (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same > file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. > > However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty > heavy build this weekend. > I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up > for it, and d/l the software. > > SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this > link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. > > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is > amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that > this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but > now Im desperate! > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- -==-=-=- Tony --90e6ba6e83e2f48d61049b39dc65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable done.

nifty app too.=A0

On Tue, F= eb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
=
Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HER= E!!
http://db.tt/nxXI= DRB

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I a= m building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise = (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty= neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from = 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of no= te was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember t= he one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) a= nyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game wh= ich is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced = using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatical= ly backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a sl= ightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it= aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty= heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people o= nto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this l= ink... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB
=
Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazin= g, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is= NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im d= esperate!

Mark



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.= com
www.ordo= abkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no



--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=
Tony
--90e6ba6e83e2f48d61049b39dc65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 15:33:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DBBD183474; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m2hfmJvM5nXj2XcZCIJXYW/XezWg9KwFaKIaiVXtnco=; b=bpQBoKdXyUJhYixqjNAsj2Y/rm7XuL77YKdHS7m5ksHlZM20WkTjIUWLhOa9SJ6kG/ AgrwHZgQ5Ubt9efhxRJjRDQW1e/DLOzFyhTxsARoayP8qp+ve0BnP9x9gf7hmU5JCT62 x90eWDeHkuchPCg3gcZ12IxOY4LlDgxnOJf60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ud5c718cWD20Sp3gw/BVyVc/HD7nFNKN/GlLmgXCltmmoy+4bGll/GsXtXmiYg92yR HgxuflyNTMMI8KLMtjps6qBkBBhatcGcmeeyrUrqfrY0p6ImeuAIJKlxVt5gRniGGLeU 8F6fSACJ69LO+geSa/AQsSK1BsTQFr2QZ3xgc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:33:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:33:08 +0000 (UTC) If I hadn't already had two free dropbox accounts I would have signed up right now to help this project. Dropbox is really nice. Per On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Tony K wrote: > done. > > nifty app too. > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe > wrote: >> >> Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! >> >> CLICK HERE!! >> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >> >> Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? >> As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly >> as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I >> think I have a pretty neat idea. >> >> Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 >> years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note >> was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the >> one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) >> anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. >> We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. >> >> Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being >> produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is >> automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project >> (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same >> file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. >> >> However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty >> heavy build this weekend. >> I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign >> up for it, and d/l the software. >> >> SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... >> If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this >> link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. >> >> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >> >> Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is >> amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that >> this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but >> now Im desperate! >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 15:33:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EB5618347B; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AtueRH9LsZgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9Ps154EHAAAA:8 a=RfNHndhzAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=VFLBUs1HAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=5qT1AUP-9Ui9o1_jgNIA:9 a=HoBILFWtOzxhZtrDsYYA:7 a=hKbeV7-s3yLgxgKJUBOcIwcBmQQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=T3vwc8IIlegA:10 a=Nl17zUePOAwA:10 a=-NQrjbwv-1uzfvUC:21 a=FBH-MeLOWx8j8ziO:21 Message-Id: <36402ABC-DF65-404F-8D2A-37841E350385@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:33:12 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) I already have a Dropbox account (and a Box.net account too). I wish I could help. On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:27 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! > > CLICK HERE!! > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? > As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. > Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, > and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea. > > Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner > from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only > thing of note was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV > idents (remember the one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a > cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, > andx I moved to Norway. > We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. > > Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is > being produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for > us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on > the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we > work on exactly the same file, but it aint no disaster). It really > is a FANTASTIC system. > > However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a > pretty heavy build this weekend. > I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they > sign up for it, and d/l the software. > > SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking > this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. > > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is > amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow > that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im > sorry, but now Im desperate! > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 16:07:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B2BE183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296576440; bh=0+xzbM6nR+lJNwPUwONAESpCYskl2i2pU0P4CiOIa0k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DKxlsRWfZXnOScUV+RowE1pLtFXOCH5yk6G1w9jp65BflRlGdCTneBAQ6gF8Gck613z3Zra0U0eBJPrxYkBLazVJUV5GroXFNJYf1CNlFNI34+ozyNaDerft1zlUvy0yeiGxYjd6H9uNKD9q0NkX5ne8lnWkHjZ6Q96SGL9ke8U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FqmSAr927TLcnZFwjX8gb31VLVT1+VmlVw1ZuQq7nBqih5lYjhlUZoTXkmTeBa/Tf6LAYX0mytumb7bxodIrSRlruYyETVCIBhYJerBulqJYKkvuEFIaQfIE7gnA7yPI+bBZKyNGlXiDIUTouAM+WMs0uWERoKBnuWGuVJ+IPBY=; Message-ID: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UmzEVyoVM1nKofNz7TbO7qKJC3GjCEt3A55qK3Rqmq7u1zx 1VWvblEUfxkfVgqvOSt3_QhqinQSO0.GQAMbwKlj7UE46dTUwVnu1AvfhlaZ jFpVjBoU2aNh_qHEPEanEyUvquUlrJ1apbwnnuLMn8nGDgjDdfa3V1jgPpSE Ok.OcPkLEr_ucM8ccM7wCFjASMiq1ow136TOdSqmkSytzNiUX3mUdAyp3OuA a7J8Oke_hoPFIbrw9jebgkhRF..QIjJNDRWb9A089OLuhqTMSCClyhedJYwt 65I60KFAZYDTAAkWezbhv X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2120310294-1296576439=:71153" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) --0-2120310294-1296576439=:71153 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK Idid it looks kool but how do they know my signup came from you? ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 11:27:06 AM Subject: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! CLICK HERE!! http://db.tt/nxXIDRB Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea. Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty heavy build this weekend. I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software. SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. http://db.tt/nxXIDRB Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate! Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --0-2120310294-1296576439=:71153 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
OK Idid it looks kool but how do they know my signup came from you?

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 11:27:06 AM
Subject: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox.

Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HERE!!
http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate!

Mark



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

--0-2120310294-1296576439=:71153-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 16:25:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA007183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xdrHy36N7b0cbz9d9oPys2iIRo6XskNFTKaYdAwmD5E=; b=RQFpMkTpPtkTqBrYNWT41lNKh1Y/Knt8rMC175WXOat0SKAf4kY8Jv3GCIyxjH0NsM uBroZlb99RK8Z/p00bcMCvohev8mXwnkwFrkJFOFM9H0yue3nH/9ZIDZiy3isNuyI8vX 2oMB6E4QJkXlXzKrE9SECcR2ynGtVhp+ewd90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Et/OR13TabpUHVg5nWFsbghZn6PKze9efaF/u+qRzXHI/mnUCsMXzwfY44/56MnDMQ lpwwbarSgkPQkrNKbXOSzOwF5rdJq5lPPc5kkVeS9dKPJ0XCDAE6jFuYNgi17SL1kXQ4 qj1n/oXDWEyXF2lt5t9C2u6js4jis3YToqUho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:25:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c05002f10169a049b3afc50 Resent-Message-ID: <6cDk9B.A.4qB.NQDSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) --00248c05002f10169a049b3afc50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark hey I would man but I've been a member for over 2 years, love it though. Best plan for free sync/sharing/storage on the net, they never bug you and yes if you bring friends you will rise and presently they let you rise to 8 gig I think. I'm bumping 3 as I don't have too many friends (jokes!). Jim On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:07 AM, wrote: > OK Idid it looks kool but how do they know my signup came from you? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* mark francombe > *To:* loopers-delight > *Sent:* Tue, February 1, 2011 11:27:06 AM > *Subject:* VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. > > Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! > > CLICK HERE!! > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? > As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partl= y > as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly co= s I > think I have a pretty neat idea. > > Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 > years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of not= e > was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember th= e > one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) > anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. > We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. > > Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being > produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is > automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project > (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the sam= e > file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. > > However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty > heavy build this weekend. > I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign = up > for it, and d/l the software. > > SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this > link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. > > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB > > Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is > amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that > this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but > now Im desperate! > > Mark > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00248c05002f10169a049b3afc50 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark hey I would man but I've been a member for over 2 years, love it t= hough.=A0 Best plan for free sync/sharing/storage on the net, they never bu= g you and yes if you bring friends you will rise and presently they let you= rise to 8 gig I think.=A0 I'm bumping 3 as I don't have too many f= riends (jokes!).

Jim

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:07 AM, = <antonyhequ= et@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK Idid it looks kool but how do they know my signup came from you?=

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>=
To: loopers-delight <Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 11:27:06 AM
Subject: VERY OT: A humble= request about Dropbox.

Sor= ry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HERE!!=
http://= db.tt/nxXIDRB

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of yo= u know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning= exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I hav= e a pretty neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from = 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of no= te was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember t= he one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) a= nyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game wh= ich is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced = using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatical= ly backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a sl= ightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it= aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty= heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people o= nto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this l= ink... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB<= br clear=3D"all">
Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is am= azing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that thi= s is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now = Im desperate!

Mark



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://w= ww.looop.no




--
From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00248c05002f10169a049b3afc50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 16:39:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830B4183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:05 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Regarding my camera, the Q3 has no line in, and I'm not that skilled at I movie yet to extract the audio from the video and use the sound recording I made with Cubase. So for now, until I evolve further, you might just have to deal with not only the clicking noise of my effects switches , but also the horrible squeak I get from my drum throne as I shift about. I wasn't really going for big production values here, just wanting to pass along a technique I continue to find inspiration in. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 16:40:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4E52183466; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:40:14 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33189-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9045D5D32D1D-1E68-564D@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) hey mark.....only for you!.....:).....how do they know you sent me? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 16:59:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481C0183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6oFiVpadC317hV2m4+NJ1wNPwxEFJNvmGjn5wCKLzw4=; b=nyHV34z+VMsHI0lTq/x3yfCqznt2axdVdBhxR6UJ+lPrhA7SfS+MtZawyALgdg5a4r 3xEY8dEy+WzfiIgHpPhWATjoeWJH30wj8ls+Ro7QIx12WNT/KaQCZyLUQ8Jc/52MtTN9 dnQJAsXQsi2I5bHEjD4zUCSJ3Vh6cm2Y7JXLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=xwWsD2Z42Bw5hTIPix2MJv0durKXwLwoiYCZX6SyUIOBt0w4Dat8wndEJqZkXzmRia r/6Fnxmvd1etJno3eVXFh5N7UfrMLZsctFbm0cTbjxRX7vN/r9GeCV1WG8YZh48Z7BGe LtPdgf311G7Zcj18fpf9uqCVj7ThOBMMvrWHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CD9045D5D32D1D-1E68-564D@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> References: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD9045D5D32D1D-1E68-564D@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:59:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: w3__8c26IdqGdOuX4afcwPTxqsw Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc375709e049b3b7584 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:59:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc375709e049b3b7584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks to everyone who did this! I jumped from 2.5 to 4.5 jiggerdoodles of space in one day.. thats fab! For those that asked, they know the referall is from me because the link you clicked is a unique, generated link that THEY know is a link that I generated and distributed. The link contains both the URL of the sign-up page AND my username. When YOU sign-up they can extract this info from the URL and send me 250 mbs of space... And now you have all got 2 gbs of space to play with, its great! For collaborative long distance projects its amazing. None of this versioning problems... and realtime back-up. Plus you can chuck a bunch of photos into a folder, send people the URL of the folder, and they see a nice menu! I really should work for them! Thanks again! Mark On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, wrote: > hey mark.....only for you!.....:).....how do they know you sent me? > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549dc375709e049b3b7584 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone who did this! I jumped from 2.5 to 4.5 jiggerdoodles of = space in one day.. thats fab!

For those that asked, they know the re= ferall is from me because the link you clicked is a unique, generated link = that THEY know is a link that I generated and distributed. The link contain= s both the URL of the sign-up page AND my username. When YOU sign-up they c= an extract this info from the URL and send me 250 mbs of space...

And now you have all got 2 gbs of space to play with, its great! For co= llaborative long distance projects its amazing. None of this versioning pro= blems... and realtime back-up. Plus you can chuck a bunch of photos into a = folder, send people the URL of the folder, and they see a nice menu! I real= ly should work for them!

Thanks again!


Mark




On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wr= ote:
hey mark.....only for you!.....:).....how do they know you sent me?




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com=
www.ordoabk= hao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://= www.looop.no
--20cf30549dc375709e049b3b7584-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 17:02:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B53D18345A; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0C990D7B-4C1B-4084-9CA6-4B85AFB63CED@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:02:25 -0500 thread-index: AcvCMdtYN6/RCk/xT6KRtxZRjXcp8w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 17:02:51.0658 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC5ED6A0:01CBC231] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Bill have you used Mobuis in Cubase? Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:39 AM, William Walker wrote: >=20 > Regarding my camera, the Q3 has no line in, and I'm not that skilled at I m= ovie yet to extract the audio from the video and use the sound recording I= made with Cubase. So for now, until I evolve further, you might just have= to deal with not only the clicking noise of my effects switches , but also= the horrible squeak I get from my drum throne as I shift about. I wasn't r= eally going for big production values here, just wanting to pass along a tec= hnique I continue to find inspiration in. > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 17:07:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A328818345A; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296580065; bh=rX93d/9Pp1G0rCiG5QGrvQNm6eo1UdaAbUUL65mauZI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5RjjJVmNlC7MJsjmfz44lm5yATpy91+hJcjwVzRU5SqUjxB266SZhbpzgi7+5v0CLE4iGJUgLBDQ1vKcL857quZ9StlPWWe9cqwb3xJZ+4x/kHlpdsnf0j7tFeS50JCivH1ZrdiJ8o5yRpciIBK+DntR6tZ5oNaxw/bMMrhbhhE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tD8QbpTzdbnzjHE57n3AeK1+f2IixJ9wH5Z2i3H5fKyjMYhchDW8mr+7Bs3UlCMxyqQaxhkE4qAScwPaUV2+JXwc6BYUTwVUDxOkjQE3EEdl3ccibLFxhMVg6MvVJTuDWoWLuI4eAGwVzFcTYfrJmIYgNpWUV2hudvQHcxsGwrg=; Message-ID: <294447.85596.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PJS_N24VM1nxq5B9DKi56DNeaSRbMXooqYqVQpQ46PoQq6h n9flVuVTakqqzHZct.gL11lKIrb1RG.TIu0GB2D.Hk9H9yPmCllYKgHzTuF3 dAu94FbSRRAnFSMX8kRz6v.vzRYXb1BZuH6jXy5Ku6RSj2CMyPMfqHOnJu2D qDpLctVrJ5NHfkC_xSRqajJXVWUaaJpn71yaWSvmLol58OEVCXRF593ssuMV AwAcvFWp1Va2kcAVvxvuFj8v1.0UBI5lY8y6C83h8ztTv8_6g1.GJUiXMy7. w885MS3ry82vWgKp4IxLz X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <171866.71153.qm@web120704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8CD9045D5D32D1D-1E68-564D@Webmail-d110.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:07:44 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-619720644-1296580064=:85596" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:07:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-619720644-1296580064=:85596 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Thanks, can you open more than one acoount with different email address? ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 5:59:22 PM Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. Thanks to everyone who did this! I jumped from 2.5 to 4.5 jiggerdoodles of space in one day.. thats fab! For those that asked, they know the referall is from me because the link you clicked is a unique, generated link that THEY know is a link that I generated and distributed. The link contains both the URL of the sign-up page AND my username. When YOU sign-up they can extract this info from the URL and send me 250 mbs of space... And now you have all got 2 gbs of space to play with, its great! For collaborative long distance projects its amazing. None of this versioning problems... and realtime back-up. Plus you can chuck a bunch of photos into a folder, send people the URL of the folder, and they see a nice menu! I really should work for them! Thanks again! Mark On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, wrote: hey mark.....only for you!.....:).....how do they know you sent me? > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --0-619720644-1296580064=:85596 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hey Thanks, can you open more than one acoount with different email address?

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 5:59:22 PM
Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox.

Thanks to everyone who did this! I jumped from 2.5 to 4.5 jiggerdoodles of space in one day.. thats fab!

For those that asked, they know the referall is from me because the link you clicked is a unique, generated link that THEY know is a link that I generated and distributed. The link contains both the URL of the sign-up page AND my username. When YOU sign-up they can extract this info from the URL and send me 250 mbs of space...

And now you have all got 2 gbs of space to play with, its great! For collaborative long distance projects its amazing. None of this versioning problems... and realtime back-up. Plus you can chuck a bunch of photos into a folder, send people the URL of the folder, and they see a nice menu! I really should work for them!

Thanks again!


Mark




On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
hey mark.....only for you!.....:).....how do they know you sent me?




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

--0-619720644-1296580064=:85596-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 17:17:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56CA9183477; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-445767858"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2C65543F-E7DB-4F5D-8D23-19B99C77B683@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice thread-index: AcvCM7wZdnIQuk7DRWG1XqKxQVzAgw== Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:15:47 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 17:17:08.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB302FC0:01CBC233] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:17:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-445767858 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an Looperl= ative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two octave keyboa= rd and a small mixer.=20 If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you abo= ut two years work!! Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" wro= te: > Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it > absolutely fascinating. It seems like there are some great musicians > and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it. > My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based > approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly > textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs > are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will > send you the album free, just shoot me an email. After that, I took a > brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography. > I have become very interested in working on music again and in the > live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that > many people were doing this besides a few people. I know next to > nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about > different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I > have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the > solution to what I would like to do. All of this is overwhelming and > exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my > goals, some of you more experienced loopers could at least point me > in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music. > First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, > iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the > ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up > another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of > these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to > have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures > of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I > would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately > after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent > to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar > amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the > system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot > pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of > how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. I > don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want > to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be > able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing > community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful. > Thanks very much. > Best, >=20 > John >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-445767858 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an Looperlative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two octave keyboard and a small mixer. 

If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you about two years work!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it
absolutely fascinating.  It seems like there are some great musicians
and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it.
My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based
approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly
textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs
are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will
send you the album free, just shoot me an email.  After that, I took a
brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography.
I have become very interested in working on music again and in the
live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that
many people were doing this besides a few people.  I know next to
nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about
different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I
have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the
solution to what I would like to do.  All of this is overwhelming and
exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my
goals, some of you more experienced loopers could  at least point me
in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music.
 First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.  I
don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want
to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be
able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing
community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful.
Thanks very much.
Best,

John

--Apple-Mail-1-445767858-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 17:21:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 294BC183481; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-446042813"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: thread-topic: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice thread-index: AcvCNGCoIzrL9RRPRjayjItmnM1TgQ== Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:20:22 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 17:21:12.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C79A330:01CBC234] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-446042813 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Antony wrote=20 LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... Oooh, what if the LP1 could assign the two ins and six outs to be controlled= ins or outs either one, nice!!! I am thinking of getting a midi controlled patch bay, any recomendations? AndyO > control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 o= nly has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... >=20 > Antony Hequet >=20 > From: Simeon Harris > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM > Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice >=20 > if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio i= nterface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.=20 >=20 > mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's o= wn dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it= 's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it w= ill also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a foo= tpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes e= tc >=20 > sim >=20 > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrot= e: > John Singletary wrote: >=20 > First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, > iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the > ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up > another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of > these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to > have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures > of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I > would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately > after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent > to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar > amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the > system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot > pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of > how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.=20 >=20 > Hi John, > the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the > Looperlative LP1. > It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo > outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. > (so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) > To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as > Master, then any addition loops can be any made to > fit exact numbers of measures. >=20 > It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe > want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). >=20 > You'll also need a small mixer. >=20 > andy butler >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-446042813 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj48c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iQXBwbGUtc3R5 bGUtc3BhbiIgc3R5bGU9Ii13ZWJraXQtdGFwLWhpZ2hsaWdodC1jb2xvcjogcmdiYSgyNiwgMjYs 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Dropbox. References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-446160907"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. thread-index: AcvCNLMCKUd767FPThKC52Tl6mJh0w== Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:22:20 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 17:23:14.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5488DB0:01CBC234] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:23:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-446160907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Signed up mark looks cool thanks.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:27 AM, "mark francombe" wrote:= > Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! >=20 > CLICK HERE!! > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >=20 > Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? > As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly= as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I= think I have a pretty neat idea. >=20 > Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 y= ears ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note wa= s and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the one= with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow h= e moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. > We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. >=20 > Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being pro= duced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automa= tically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a= slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but i= t aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. >=20 > However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty he= avy build this weekend.=20 > I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign u= p for it, and d/l the software.=20 >=20 > SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... > If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this l= ink... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. >=20 > http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >=20 > Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazi= ng, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is= NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im de= sperate! >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-3-446160907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Signed up mark looks cool thanks. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Feb 1, 2011, at 5:27 AM, "mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HERE!!
http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos I think I have a pretty neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB

Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate!

Mark



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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--Apple-Mail-3-446160907-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 17:31:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D205B183480; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice References: <2C65543F-E7DB-4F5D-8D23-19B99C77B683@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-446620684"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <2C65543F-E7DB-4F5D-8D23-19B99C77B683@1800dialword.com> Message-ID: thread-topic: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice thread-index: AcvCNbhxgFwBYSdVTPWosmu1fMazXw== Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 12:30:00 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 17:31:23.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8EBFA30:01CBC235] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:31:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-446620684 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Also, you could use the EHX 2880 and do almost the same thing but only four c= hannels but full complete midi control of the looper available. More audio m= angling with LP1 and not sure about outs on the 2880 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an Loope= rlative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two octave keyb= oard and a small mixer.=20 >=20 > If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you a= bout two years work!! >=20 > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! >=20 >=20 > On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" w= rote: >=20 >> Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it >> absolutely fascinating. It seems like there are some great musicians >> and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it. >> My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based >> approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly >> textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs >> are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will >> send you the album free, just shoot me an email. After that, I took a >> brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography. >> I have become very interested in working on music again and in the >> live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that >> many people were doing this besides a few people. I know next to >> nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about >> different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I >> have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the >> solution to what I would like to do. All of this is overwhelming and >> exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my >> goals, some of you more experienced loopers could at least point me >> in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music. >> First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, >> iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the >> ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up >> another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of >> these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to >> have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures >> of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I >> would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately >> after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent >> to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar >> amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the >> system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot >> pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of >> how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. I >> don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want >> to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be >> able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing >> community. 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a3F1b3RlPjwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ --Apple-Mail-4-446620684-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 18:10:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE17718345D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-448968215"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6C34BB49-1F02-46AE-8021-DC024DE34B6F@1800dialword.com> thread-topic: yet more Joy of quantize replace thread-index: AcvCOzsQxGTgGiJKTVqJc1NkpnbaJA== Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:09:07 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 18:10:10.0001 (UTC) FILETIME=[43691410:01CBC23B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-448968215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you d= eal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then y= ou could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the stri= ngs down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!! Other than that, you are getting close.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > Just lovely! > I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, e= ven though I like the live feel a lot! :) >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:= > Bill's piece was so haunting and moving! >=20 > Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more a= mazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere! >=20 > Loved it! >=20 > 2011/2/1 Simeon Harris >=20 > that was lovely! >=20 > surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the c= amera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do this= in iMovie. >=20 > one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't h= ave to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he= 's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well! >=20 > bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of= quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters o= n it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some f= rom the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! >=20 > anyway, that was really great...more please! >=20 > sim >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock = wrote: > Lovely music Bill! > Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kin= da spoils the atmos a bit.. > =20 > Gareth >=20 > =20 > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 >=20 >=20 > This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of t= he quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized l= oops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some conte= nt that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . The id= ea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that toggl= ing between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually evolving e= ach of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. > Enjoy > Bill > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqWqRv7kHkdc >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. 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Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1741229717-1296588387=:97373 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ANdy, this is the ultimate audio patch bay with loads of MIDI control http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_about.htm Antony ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:20:22 PM Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice Antony wrote LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... Oooh, what if the LP1 could assign the two ins and six outs to be controlled ins or outs either one, nice!!! I am thinking of getting a midi controlled patch bay, any recomendations? AndyO control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... > > >Antony Hequet > > > ________________________________ From: Simeon Harris >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM >Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice > >if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio >interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop. > > >mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own >dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own >instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also >fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a >control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc > >sim > > >On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrote: > >John Singletary wrote: >> >> >> First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, >>>iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the >>>ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up >>>another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of >>>these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to >>>have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures >>>of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I >>>would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately >>>after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent >>>to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar >>>amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the >>>system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot >>>pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of >>>how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. >>> > Hi John, >>the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the >>Looperlative LP1. >>It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo >>outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. >>(so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) >>To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as >>Master, then any addition loops can be any made to >>fit exact numbers of measures. >> >>It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe >>want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). >> >>You'll also need a small mixer. >> >>andy butler >> >> >> > > --0-1741229717-1296588387=:97373 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ANdy,

this is the ultimate audio patch bay with loads of MIDI control


Antony

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:20:22 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice

Antony wrote 

LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway...

Oooh, what if the LP1 could assign the two ins and six outs to be controlled ins or outs either one, nice!!!

I am thinking of getting a midi controlled patch bay, any recomendations?

AndyO




 control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway...

Antony Hequet

From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice

if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.

mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc

sim

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
John Singletary wrote:

 First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.

Hi John,
the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the
Looperlative LP1.
It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo
outputs and have individual control over volume and pan.
(so with panning that's 6 mono outputs)
To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as
Master, then any addition loops can be any made to
fit exact numbers of measures.

It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe
want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes).

You'll also need a small mixer.

andy butler





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More audio mangling with LP1 and not sure about outs on the 2880 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Andy Owens" wrote: Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an Looperlative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two octave keyboard and a small mixer. > > >If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you about >two years work!! > >Andy Owens >1-800-AndyOwens >Sent from my iPhone >So the typing might not be my best! > > > >On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" wrote: > > >Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it >>absolutely fascinating. It seems like there are some great musicians >>and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it. >>My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based >>approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly >>textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs >>are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will >>send you the album free, just shoot me an email. After that, I took a >>brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography. >>I have become very interested in working on music again and in the >>live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that >>many people were doing this besides a few people. I know next to >>nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about >>different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I >>have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the >>solution to what I would like to do. All of this is overwhelming and >>exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my >>goals, some of you more experienced loopers could at least point me >>in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music. >> First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, >>iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the >>ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up >>another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of >>these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to >>have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures >>of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I >>would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately >>after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent >>to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar >>amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the >>system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot >>pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of >>how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. I >>don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want >>to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be >>able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing >>community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful. >>Thanks very much. >>Best, >> >>John >> >> --0-59157581-1296588575=:15670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
LP1 LP1 LP1
or Elektron Oktotrack if that turns out to do what they it shoud do


Antony

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:30:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice

Also, you could use the EHX 2880 and do almost the same thing but only four channels but full complete midi control of the looper available. More audio mangling with LP1 and not sure about outs on the 2880

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an Looperlative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two octave keyboard and a small mixer. 

If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you about two years work!!

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it
absolutely fascinating.  It seems like there are some great musicians
and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it.
My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based
approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly
textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs
are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will
send you the album free, just shoot me an email.  After that, I took a
brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography.
I have become very interested in working on music again and in the
live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that
many people were doing this besides a few people.  I know next to
nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about
different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I
have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the
solution to what I would like to do.  All of this is overwhelming and
exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my
goals, some of you more experienced loopers could  at least point me
in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music.
 First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.  I
don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want
to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be
able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing
community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful.
Thanks very much.
Best,

John


--0-59157581-1296588575=:15670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 19:31:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E332C18345A; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296588689; bh=tiV+WTT8OiB3YD/yQiDzNjUYytVdYFoGzwaJKNSmdKY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3bERMXtiiZQ6vAq1LFiXVa1lgQpg88vZpsDpxyW8ycYPn6nfghmtcy8pmlG7Be9vGeCWiSiVht4Cg4QT11caFej/BpjyMV4LV88dvRtPaZLyGrcbsdjWeO0v0Opj3wWNZKpROW42WSXx2eT0kEbPB5x1xtfdcd02GvpwuOV0OGs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M4hllKhDcg9sr3iVguXwnqAVTAX1LdaexW9JcllCtbDi6pgYFKyjKV+HxMIqNgYVINb3PG21sEpImCehw/CBINvVwbGnUBAqO/KoNO4QlvDXTrgioqZ/kq3wBOU0wCjii3JTgOeI78GrCMAPQgZt/heSfO9JgiYfW08nhySfRb0=; Message-ID: <199392.52755.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: i3BKaMIVM1kpDQKxzbhoQApjvL7rycpaj7WHnUq1RmsLSks I4iKN2SzuuE9FV1l4F3UbUA0x0G0GlJKdrXih29Eb1mWvwN20NGR6nWbS_O. pkcodZv75.BaXo.VuW8y4gZtn7R_O078AvpstJiVI7gah2Ugeh3F3TB87E7g qG_VoQz1W86mm7rQC23xXzkPOhdvoxn8NFtG14Me4eLI4H3BBp1lPZVO92QT 0dsOwLqm86BMbA9CVLRx4WBeMDARzn2HvBHLn_ZmXDDbbYNnqX8YQBnG6yTb Z0mMWwv9E.ALJvUtuFscJ X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <6C34BB49-1F02-46AE-8021-DC024DE34B6F@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:31:28 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6C34BB49-1F02-46AE-8021-DC024DE34B6F@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1214298462-1296588688=:52755" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:31:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-1214298462-1296588688=:52755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii and stop hitting yourself over the head with a broom handle when you are playing chords with your feet please, it's distracing AH ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 7:09:07 PM Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!! Other than that, you are getting close. Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: Just lovely! >I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, even >though I like the live feel a lot! :) > > > >On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > >Bill's piece was so haunting and moving! >> >>Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more >>amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere! >> >>Loved it! >> >> >>2011/2/1 Simeon Harris >> >> >>that was lovely! >>> >>>surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the camera >>>visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do this in >>>iMovie. >>> >>>one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't have >>>to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's >>>hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well! >>> >>>bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of >>>quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters on it. >>>if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some from the >>>LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! >>> >>>anyway, that was really great...more please! >>> >>>sim >>> >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock >>>wrote: >>> >>>Lovely music Bill! >>>>Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kinda >>>>spoils the atmos a bit.. >>>> >>>>Gareth >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ From: billwalker@baymoon.com >>>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace >>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 >>>> >>>> >>>> This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of the >>>>quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized loops , >>>>and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some content that i >>>>had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . The idea was to have >>>>each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that toggling between them >>>>creates the chord progression. I'm continually evolving each of the loops by >>>>adding new content as I replace the old. >>>> >>>>Enjoy >>>> Bill >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc >>> >> >> >>-- >>Petri Lahtinen >>http://www.petrilahtinen.com >>http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >>http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >>http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >>http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >>--------------------------------------------------- >>"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- >>--------------------------------------------------- >>"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles >>Bukowski- >> >> > --0-1214298462-1296588688=:52755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
and stop hitting yourself over the head with a broom handle when you are playing chords with your feet please, it's distracing

AH

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 7:09:07 PM
Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace

Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!!

Other than that, you are getting close. 

Andy Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing might not be my best!


On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com> wrote:

Just lovely!
I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, even though I like the live feel a lot! :)


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill's piece was so haunting and moving!

Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere!

Loved it!

2011/2/1 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>

that was lovely!

surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do this in iMovie.

one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well!

bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun!

anyway, that was really great...more please!

sim


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Lovely music Bill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kinda spoils the atmos a bit..
 
Gareth

 
From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800


 This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1  makes liberal use of the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 .  The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that toggling between them creates the chord progression.  I'm continually  evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
 Bill




--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



--0-1214298462-1296588688=:52755-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 19:57:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2932183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=V0zZ061AQk6JxplgLg2klpHPovDv+sIdaquji4BYlvw=; b=dPbOfQeh+kgdocJe5SVskX6f5ozh6N5wgo4/VeZrf6ztz8gT8j2E15o6Jc+mz0L8OE 5opVutigZf0Mhob+KZEtgyfBrJJVYHhDwd3gNUNjJU8S1130hHPAzOnw9Klq1wifJBf/ z+8SYEo/W9JC64sxncLFoTl4j94z5bBeoqc2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WB4/ZQVzmGYZ28XmyW2rGPYsrwEIui4nYDDI6M5VomecNjn9GB1uOrhKkAB5u6TeHw zm18nKSdMoQwknUp0Pip9sAoX3J0ZUpU2a16ilhRoo3/xLucy17nmhKf3H1vIV801k1a 4hETPCVCEAG0drbatKrCakPolB7iIp+x/JtPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <199392.52755.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <6C34BB49-1F02-46AE-8021-DC024DE34B6F@1800dialword.com> <199392.52755.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:56:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LQdnKBYq1iDbhyZmg_Bc7s031RI Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15f8d1a46049b3df0ab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:57:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15f8d1a46049b3df0ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ill just pop in here to say that I love Bills style of video! We have all types on this list, from Reyns HUGE and magnificent productions, me and Ricks grainy lo fi shit, Jeffs mushroom clouds of psychelelia, but Bill, in his garage tops it all for me, just like his playing it is understated, clean, relaxed and beautiful. m On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM, wrote: > and stop hitting yourself over the head with a broom handle when you are > playing chords with your feet please, it's distracing > > AH > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Andy Owens > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tue, February 1, 2011 7:09:07 PM > *Subject:* Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace > > Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you > deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then > you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the > strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!! > > Other than that, you are getting close. > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Lasse juul Kolding wrote: > > Just lovely! > I agree though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, > even though I like the live feel a lot! :) > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen < > aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bill's piece was so haunting and moving! >> >> Made my morning: wonderful playing and the "live" sound made it even more >> amazing, that it could conjure such ethereal atmosphere! >> >> Loved it! >> >> 2011/2/1 Simeon Harris < >> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> >> >> that was lovely! >>> >>> surely taking an audio feed to the computer and then merging it with the >>> camera visual would be a better bet? if you're running a mac, you can do >>> this in iMovie. >>> >>> one thing that bill does extremely well and that regular guitarists don't >>> have to contend with, is that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as >>> he's hitting buttons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as >>> well! >>> >>> bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind >>> of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filters >>> on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it some >>> from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun! >>> >>> anyway, that was really great...more please! >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock < >>> buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Lovely music Bill! >>>> Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking >>>> kinda spoils the atmos a bit.. >>>> >>>> Gareth >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> From: billwalker@baymoon.com >>>> To: >>>> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace >>>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800 >>>> >>>> >>>> This lap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 makes liberal use of >>>> the quantize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized >>>> loops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some >>>> content that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . >>>> The idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so >>>> that toggling between them creates the chord progression. I'm continually >>>> evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old. >>>> Enjoy >>>> Bill >>>> h >>>> ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqRv7kHkdc >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15f8d1a46049b3df0ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill just pop in here to say that I love Bills style of video! We have all t= ypes on this list, from Reyns HUGE and magnificent productions, me and Rick= s grainy lo fi shit, Jeffs mushroom clouds of psychelelia, but Bill, in his= garage tops it all for me, just like his playing it is understated, clean,= relaxed and beautiful.

m


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:31 PM,= <antonyheq= uet@yahoo.com> wrote:
and stop hitting yourself over the head with a broom handle when yo= u are playing chords with your feet please, it's distracing

AH

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com= >
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, 201= 1 7:09:07 PM
Subject: R= e: yet more Joy of quantize replace

Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can= you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar= then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash = the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!!

Other than that, you are getting close.=A0

Andy = Owens
1-800-AndyOwens
Sent from my iPhone
So the typing m= ight not be my best!


On Feb 1, 201= 1, at 8:44 AM, Lasse juul Kolding <dubbilan@gmail.com> wrote:

Just lovely!
I agre= e though, the loud sounds from the foot switches disturb me a bit, even tho= ugh I like the live feel a lot! :)


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wro= te:
Bill's piece = was so haunting and moving!

Made my morning: wonderful playing and t= he "live" sound made it even more amazing, that it could conjure = such ethereal atmosphere!

Loved it!

2011/2/1 Simeon Harris <simeonha= rris40@googlemail.com>

that was lovely!

surely taking an audio feed to the computer and the= n merging it with the camera visual would be a better bet? if you're ru= nning a mac, you can do this in iMovie.

one thing that bill does ext= remely well and that regular guitarists don't have to contend with, is = that the fact that bill's lap is moving around as he's hitting butt= ons...and therefore his instrument is moving around as well!

bill - have you tried post processing the loops from the LP1? this kind= of quantize replace stuff sounds awesome with some synced delays and filte= rs on it. if you have a delay that can receive midi clock, you can send it = some from the LP-1 and bingo - instant fun!

anyway, that was really great...more please!

sim


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote= :
Lovely music=A0Bill!
Can you get a direct signal feed to the camera? The footswith clicking kind= a spoils the atmos a bit..
=A0
Gareth

=A0
From: billwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: yet more Joy of quantize replace
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:59:50 -0800


=A0This l= ap steel improv using the Looperlative LP-1 =A0makes liberal use of the qua= ntize replace function. I'm juggling 4 different tracks of quantized lo= ops , and creating the form as I go, and I must admit that I had some conte= nt that i had already recorded before i pressed play on my Zoom Q3 . =A0The= idea was to have each loop be a chord made up of quantized notes so that t= oggling between them creates the chord progression. =A0I'm continually = =A0evolving each of the loops by adding new content as I replace the old.
Enjoy
=A0Bill




--
Petri Lahti= nen
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http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
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http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
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twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a15f8d1a46049b3df0ab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 20:08:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B198183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_35e26801-aa31-4333-a842-f366e194d776_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:08:17 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 20:08:17.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3E4D240:01CBC24B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:08:19 +0000 (UTC) --_35e26801-aa31-4333-a842-f366e194d776_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okie dokes Bill. Keep your excellent=2C understated and tasteful improvs co= ming mate Peace G > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace > Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb 2011 08:39:05 -0800 >=20 > Regarding my camera=2C the Q3 has no line in=2C and I'm not that skille= d =20 > at I movie yet to extract the audio from the video and use the sound =20 > recording I made with Cubase. So for now=2C until I evolve further=2C = =20 > you might just have to deal with not only the clicking noise of my =20 > effects switches =2C but also the horrible squeak I get from my drum =20 > throne as I shift about. I wasn't really going for big production =20 > values here=2C just wanting to pass along a technique I continue to find = =20 > inspiration in. > Bill >=20 = --_35e26801-aa31-4333-a842-f366e194d776_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okie dokes Bill. Keep your excellent=2C understated and tasteful improvs co= ming mate

Peace

G

>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com<= br>>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: ye= t more Joy of quantize replace
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb 2011 08:39:05 -= 0800
>=3B
>=3B Regarding my camera=2C the Q3 has no line in=2C= and I'm not that skilled
>=3B at I movie yet to extract the audio = from the video and use the sound
>=3B recording I made with Cubase.= So for now=2C until I evolve further=2C
>=3B you might just have = to deal with not only the clicking noise of my
>=3B effects switches= =2C but also the horrible squeak I get from my drum
>=3B throne as= I shift about. I wasn't really going for big production
>=3B value= s here=2C just wanting to pass along a technique I continue to find
&g= t=3B inspiration in.
>=3B Bill
>=3B
= --_35e26801-aa31-4333-a842-f366e194d776_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 20:36:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81ADA18345A; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on server03.gorrie X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=01.9 required=5.0 tests=MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819, RDNS_NONE=0.1 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 Message-ID: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:36:32 -0500 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB6.6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Hey thanks Mark, this will be handy Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe wro= te: > >> Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! >> >> CLICK HERE!! >> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >> >> Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? >> As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partl= y >> as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly co= s I >> think I have a pretty neat idea. >> >> Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 >> years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of not= e >> was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember th= e >> one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) >> anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. >> We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. >> >> Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being >> produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is >> automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project >> (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the sam= e >> file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. >> >> However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty >> heavy build this weekend. >> I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign = up >> for it, and d/l the software. >> >> SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... >> If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this >> link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. >> >> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >> >> Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is >> amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that >> this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but >> now Im desperate! >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 20:49:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F19E183451; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DUFI7LkUkeNdnzLmMP0w5NQPZBe4LelCacHJ0asb23A=; b=Hg2UubKSlsssgVgHFLV6JBY4j5PStXRRGCxFyJ3BoNeWfErbUABzaKxzUnA7pk5ygb r+4gAImj9kDLE2Y+y9tiS2gN064u9Ci5TYWgB/k+hUo4zRR+FLR+T44ZOcb+UMWYFYig DoFdQXhP32Cc4pgCGUahFea+nlblls1ermOzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=N/CIKjRD80AkXipFLbnVxueKYKp56J600dQFvEg5oZcfM7L8Wk+VrDd2rUVl0ozaJs xU/BeaFV+FbP+DzjtjuaQ+tEVKtMiU636avy8QGDLzeRmheTtn38nBzp2lkBOp0rUvQ5 71kpvaxEem/t9pwvFO547bLhqIyULjO/eZVsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:48:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aL6v7vTYzjEmC_T5V0tvVtGnH3c Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b11f84244049b3ea9ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:49:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b11f84244049b3ea9ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No .. thank YOU Paul.. Now I have 5 gb at Dropbox! Phew.. soon Ill be able to make World of Warcraft! On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:36 PM, wrote: > Hey thanks Mark, this will be handy > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe > >wrote: >> >> >> Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST! >>> >>> CLICK HERE!! >>> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >>> >>> Oh sorry, maybe I should explain? >>> As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. >>> Partly >>> as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly >>> cos I >>> think I have a pretty neat idea. >>> >>> Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 >>> years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of >>> note >>> was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember >>> the >>> one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well ) >>> anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway. >>> We have not seen each other since, except via Skype. >>> >>> Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is being >>> produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is >>> automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project >>> (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the >>> same >>> file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system. >>> >>> However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty >>> heavy build this weekend. >>> I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign >>> up >>> for it, and d/l the software. >>> >>> SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM... >>> If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this >>> link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up. >>> >>> http://db.tt/nxXIDRB >>> >>> Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is >>> amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that >>> this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but >>> now Im desperate! >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> mark francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony >> >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b11f84244049b3ea9ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No .. thank YOU Paul.. Now I have 5 gb at Dropbox!=A0 Phew.. soon Ill be ab= le to make World of Warcraft!

On Tue, Feb= 1, 2011 at 9:36 PM, <phaslem@wightman.ca> wrote:
Hey thanks Mark, = this will be handy

Paul Haslem
Ontario, Canada
www.dulcify.ca





On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:


Sorry for the OT, Im really in need of some help and FAST!

CLICK HERE!!
http://db.tt/nxXIDRB=

Oh sorry, maybe I should explain?
As some of you know I am building a computer game in my spare time. Partly<= br> as a learning exercise (3D, programming etc) partly as Art, and partly cos = I
think I have a pretty neat idea.

Well, my partner in crime in this endeavor is my business partner from 22 years ago. We had a very odd film company together, the only thing of note<= br> was and few pop promos and some of the first ever MTV idents (remember the<= br> one with an icy MTV logo melting backwards on a cooker? No.. oh well )
anyhow he moved to Japan about 10 years ago, andx I moved to Norway.
We have not seen each other since, except via Skype.

Now our game which is called "Aunty - A metaphysical Mystery" is = being
produced using some free space at Dropbox. This is Ideal for us as it is automatically backing up what we do, we can both work on the same project (albeit a slightly quirky thing will happen if we work on exactly the same<= br> file, but it aint no disaster). It really is a FANTASTIC system.

However, my free space has run out, and we are working towards a pretty
heavy build this weekend.
I can get MORE free space if I turn people onto the system and they sign up=
for it, and d/l the software.

SO... PLEASE... PRETTY PLEASE.. WITH CHERRYS AND ICE-CREAM...
If you are NOT using Dropbox, can you sign up now, by first clicking this link... and I will get an extra 500mb per sign-up.

http://db.tt/nxXIDRB=

Now Im sure that many of you are already using Dropbox, it really is
amazing, for those of you that aint.. give it a go.. please??? I kow that this is NOT the first time I have made this plea on LD, and Im sorry, but now Im desperate!

Mark



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://www.looop.no



--
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Tony






--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancomb= e
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549b11f84244049b3ea9ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:09:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18A1D183453; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 959397.50846.bm@omp1060.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296594537; bh=4Q9bmS/MunzP9KGB2hmtMJpYz3Jpcv3Cp/eOdhedrlc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SHeKY6bTbwfUn1c4aLxjmIal2EgrORofCKpPlbo2PV0PD9wLoZ/jHcAwvhZKB1c1ToEHPreBF8KUn5g7JytL6EySb2rKCHUHJ4zmgHqGrrkYCTX1lKZOoRNDRCT7eoClJrxPzip9HgzaNex2cj1Pny+aSSUKsvePCWvDdsndoWs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aCXkDDe2vYF50CXpnKaljZVnzSVm7v8qnSZIX0+HoQQ/f1o1ugLCeMWnZfiXp5mWo/ChU8j8wDOwrvEnT8PpiJQRQIJMZDiHxUk+5J3QLvrCY8ke2E6hZxJLMcDsoOnBnVaSvIF2+KWsS2fvSa/WV5276w4VyvjWKYHZTEQ+hjk=; Message-ID: <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gG_lIkkVM1kVkV3Inxvpm6olxLHAAm4tl9ssDMKwQLLyCTa U0L_2Bxo7qgXUAtEve2Zxw1757yJRVgJtmVwPb6YKT8pWAdtm.w2EuiC63Gb c_MFwnxd0TowDUiqdDI1Y94WLqYk0hR4hlEQGpf18tn93sFibITUvoO3gR6T bdYLV8qPyStMFL3hS0xuFDwufFQ_55Sxg9dI8EIF7MlcaMYrva_Dh7VyDrWC pL38TECDEDgCYB6GI2QMhfyRlT78D.E3mMRXA8XUwAb5GrWXBbArbKjj9c2w YBAx.VL1OQYMMRIxmX1AEjP2iCZw0aQxAZvztmSUAJVtsNlpI_NMxIA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:08:57 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1431972894-1296594537=:5674" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:08:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-1431972894-1296594537=:5674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I signed up too. Go Mark!=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1431972894-1296594537=:5674 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, I signed up too. =A0Go Mark!
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1431972894-1296594537=:5674-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:10:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC5918344B; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC254.5430B6EB" Subject: midi patch bay Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:09:35 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: midi patch bay Thread-Index: AcvCRfCSIa5wcAIRR7iFQ+oflY9BNAAC+CHw References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 21:10:24.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[712C6F50:01CBC254] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC254.5430B6EB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That thing is amazing, I was looking at them a few years ago, before they had the 16 ch one, that is amazing, you could build a whole mixer out of two of those easy. =20 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com [mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice =20 ANdy, =20 this is the ultimate audio patch bay with loads of MIDI control =20 http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_about.htm =20 Antony =20 ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:20:22 PM Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice Antony wrote=20 =20 LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... =20 Oooh, what if the LP1 could assign the two ins and six outs to be controlled ins or outs either one, nice!!! =20 I am thinking of getting a midi controlled patch bay, any recomendations? =20 AndyO =20 =20 =20 control as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anyway... =20 Antony Hequet =20 =09 ________________________________ From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice =09 if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.=20 =09 mobius would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control track volumes etc =09 sim On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler wrote: John Singletary wrote: First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful. =20 Hi John, the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the Looperlative LP1. It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo outputs and have individual control over volume and pan. (so with panning that's 6 mono outputs) To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure loop as Master, then any addition loops can be any made to fit exact numbers of measures. =09 It's controllable by a simple midi pedal (and you'd maybe want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop output volumes). =09 You'll also need a small mixer. =09 andy butler =09 =09 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC254.5430B6EB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That thing is amazing, I was looking at them a few years ago, before = they had the 16 ch one, that is amazing, you could build a whole mixer = out of two of those easy.

 

From:= = antonyhequet@yahoo.com [mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com]
Sent: = Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:26 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Beginning = Looper Seeking Advice

 

ANdy,

 

this is the = ultimate audio patch bay with loads of MIDI = control

 

 

Antony

 

From:= = Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 1, = 2011 6:20:22 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking = Advice

Antony = wrote 

 

LP1 only has two inputs and = you will need to balance levels = anyway...

 

Oooh, what if the LP1 could = assign the two ins and six outs to be controlled ins or outs either one, = nice!!!

 

I am thinking of getting a = midi controlled patch bay, any = recomendations?

 

AndyO=

 

 

 

 control= as guitar and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only = has two inputs and you will need to balance levels = anyway...

 

Antony = Hequet

 

From:= = Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:= Tue, February 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning = Looper Seeking Advice

if you want to go down the sotware = route, then you'd just need and audio interface with enough ins and outs = and a laptop.

mobius would be a good solution for your looper. = each track can have it's own dedicated input and definable out port, so = you could assign each track it's own instument and then route it's = output to the amplifier of choice. it will also fufil all of your other = requirements. you would probably need a footpedal and a control surface = to punch in and out and control track volumes = etc

sim

On Tue, Feb 1, = 2011 at 10:52 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> = wrote:

John Singletary wrote:

 First, I would like to use a range of = instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, = glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an = instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument = and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
these loops to a set = BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have its own type of = rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one going for = 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able = to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
after I play it. 4Th, I = would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a different output = device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so on). This = requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough = outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
pedals to trigger = loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how this could be = accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.

 

Hi John,
the only hardware looping = tech that will give you that is the
Looperlative LP1.
It has 8 = stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different stereo
outputs and = have individual control over volume and pan.
(so with panning that's = 6 mono outputs)
To do the sync you'd have to record a one measure = loop as
Master, then any addition loops can be any made to
fit = exact numbers of measures.

It's controllable by a simple midi = pedal (and you'd maybe
want a desktop midi controller to mix the loop = output volumes).

You'll also need a small mixer.

andy = butler

 

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC254.5430B6EB-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:13:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F8AC18345B; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WwlnPWlj0nKsUBsLnF8B83qDgVcbDoAp22LGoOenq5w=; b=hJh72LtZ4eUuickFc0x/UBSx+1x3OVMB+avihFrnSGlS9iDUZT2Adoj/j6KxIzIOAP SKapL0x8CkEBjcW0y5IPawPcH8VCBH0bAv364+Gn78JQOO/bbb3RcN8K/qmpITsLt6d5 8fAxJgYWxImDGSm3uhKN9NlejCNcrLObQ6CYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j64G2lAlJ2YBHoKBUEAyuj3JkR6tC2TJC4ADAZkrLerStJJqQLp09feOp5wonstIlB jSOghqTMjPKPtrcleHsGPPuPPymPkgNeN61+yilj5ArKKgH0XZeJXhI0oJK0Wqwa6Zan sOp3adG0F28hVEhBCAfCJVYHXyG/MzHoWwqPk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:13:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3vMr9.A.d0H.CeHSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:13:38 +0000 (UTC) I already have an account there bud otherwise i would man. by the way,is that a better option than say mobile me if u want to host your own website and use it as your own server? On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Doug Wellington wrote: > OK, I signed up too. =A0Go Mark! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:37:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42064183476; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=aXl0lDsLfMWr8DNFrIYL59dQlSqWfY/4dGsV6moyQPQ=; b=WOcCUWCrGuhWbeKU53NomgZ78TYIawkkwOp5DQN3rFvnOzKViNyf829MdKLaE9jlue YM4u6se9aKQH2sJPMfVa/ljdM74BGxs6rP04Ft9TWUHB7Nmrmt5H1im+yb/KxqKkv5F+ B1t7A+EjeEowvnPNHizSZAexT89PV8eO8cems= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vPLjWuftoPW1bIw3tJRTyno1dHbQSNHKnXzDPjjCRkbfe/+lUaItWNUXfJNJnX++zb wNR91qvCQJj04OVIA454z+/bLONzBcSglV4Q/L19OmB2bdvJApxF0qhU9A1b91V2ziSB b/IdUlUdumO09tmVrwcdTc+Ts7v1rGPonensM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:37:07 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oTg7kmiOxrJremBhf-pYYfNNEys Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15fc026d5049b3f56f6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:37:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15fc026d5049b3f56f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I actually dont think it IS any good for hosting a website... TBH Im not sure if you can even link to an image... well of course you can cos you can mak a gallery, but as for hosting html or php or whatever... I dont think so... You need a website? Why look any further than Wordpress? Personally I think it saved my life... although I do have my own server space where I host Wordpress, and that is a bit fiddly to set up. No... Dropbox is for sharing files with people, or Backup. Heres how it works: Lets say you were gonna collaborate on a song with Um... lets say Fabio.. You start the track in Logic (or course... what else) and save it to your Dropbox folder. Now this folder is ON YOUR MACHINE, very important that... Just a regular folder. BUT.. Its a dropbox folder, so it copys (automatically) all those groovy guitar lick files, and the Logic project up onto the World Wide Web (the internet for you youngsters). Now he gives Fabio access (by going to the website) to that folder. Fabio looks on HIS machine in HID Dropbox folder... and sure enough.. like magic.. there is a folder there called Louies Song. Fabio opens the project, remember its ON HIS MACHINE, so no internet laggy shit... and plays some sensitive piano shit.. Now they want some red hot drumming, certainly not some crappy old loops or drum machine, so they add Rick to the Shared folder, and he does his stuff... At this point, Louie wants all the control back, its HIS song, and sure as fuck no one else is gonna mix it.. so he deletes them from the share, and they're files no longer update. Now there MIGHT be a time when both have the same file open.. what happens? well when one of them saves, it gets synched on the server, when the next saves, its changes the name to Louies Song_conflicted copy... Its a fuckup, someone loses, but with a bit of clever copying and pasting you should be OK. Its certainly better than the files trying to merge, which some versioning systems try to do... Its gonna totally revolutionize the way I am working with my friend in Japan, if only the balding fucker would get of his fat ass and do some frigging work... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15fc026d5049b3f56f6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I actually dont think it IS any good for hosting a website... TBH Im not su= re if you can even link to an image... well of course you can cos you can m= ak a gallery, but as for hosting html or php or whatever...=A0 I dont think= so...
You need a website? Why look any further than Wordpress? Personally I think= it saved my life... although I do have my own server space where I host Wo= rdpress, and that is a bit fiddly to set up.

No... Dropbox is for sh= aring files with people, or Backup.

Heres how it works:

Lets say you were gonna collaborate on a son= g with Um... lets say Fabio.. You start the track in Logic (or course... wh= at else) and save it to your Dropbox folder. Now this folder is ON YOUR MAC= HINE, very important that... Just a regular folder. BUT.. Its a dropbox fol= der, so it copys (automatically) all those groovy guitar lick files, and th= e Logic project up onto the World Wide Web (the internet for you youngsters= ). Now he gives Fabio access (by going to the website) to that folder. Fabi= o looks on HIS machine in HID Dropbox folder... and sure enough.. like magi= c.. there is a folder there called Louies Song. Fabio opens the project, re= member its ON HIS MACHINE, so no internet laggy shit... and plays some sens= itive piano shit.. Now they want some red hot drumming, certainly not some = crappy old loops or drum machine, so they add Rick to the Shared folder, an= d he does his stuff...

At this point, Louie wants all the control back, its HIS song, and sure= as fuck no one else is gonna mix it.. so he deletes them from the share, a= nd they're files no longer update.

Now there MIGHT be a time whe= n both have the same file open.. what happens? well when one of them saves,= it gets synched on the server, when the next saves, its changes the name t= o Louies Song_conflicted copy... Its a fuckup, someone loses, but with a bi= t of clever copying and pasting you should be OK. Its certainly better than= the files trying to merge, which some versioning systems try to do...


Its gonna totally revolutionize the way I am working with my friend= in Japan, if only the balding fucker would get of his fat ass and do some = frigging work...


Mark




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancomb= e.com
www.ordoabkhao.comtwitter @markfrancombe
http://= vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a15fc026d5049b3f56f6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:58:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CE6F183454; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4881FE.3090809@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:58:22 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <3E439472-0B7E-4464-BBD9-146013F63477@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <3E439472-0B7E-4464-BBD9-146013F63477@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:58:32 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Really great thoughts, ideas and concepts Matt. Thank you!! ditto, nice thoughtful post, Matt. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 21:58:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27CCA18345C; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EuaTJZW2mNq6VQxFZYN6L6qQ3265nk7JUasW2lTYiuA=; b=u6bxLyf+CwxlQHsesxq4zWYgvxIdAHH0ROBG3gQAGas2Q4wCuZD0R9DYarekOIzl10 ide1AFYK0tTDJMvKt0FY29tTMZBdu0vCmKA/R0LggI0JgyZAnIyQXl/lYB5M4p2lMXzp 9R3KonHpTwqKIR4KSKTM8ZPsc7/gYDJoWKyBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u48LctTRxFEEhm5GI/625AfKGnj8IKw/mdmuN3IygmZgV9qPVFXB2AzC+IBcklew38 shOAEgJiVmUSaTbgj99o/Of+RbD+G7uMHEXq/Q3ac6lrG3gRiGAGi54n2lOJgaEQ5dJz lfXUs6eFrgZuFK4AV7SW+Efy3FwgHB3bAwUaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> References: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Ok bro,something still intrigues me though,in Antwerp after my show you said to me that my performance was nice but you wish i hadnt use canned loops,then you realized after seeing my video that i had done it all myself and you were amazed. Which tell me that the musical end result from the rhytmic perspective was now only acepted because i had done it with my mouth. Yet you really liked Margaret Nobles performance but she used analog grooves coming from the Jomox drum machine to accompany her looping. Soooo my question is: if i use a drum machine should it only be strange and abstract for it to be accepted by loopers? should loopers not use drum machine grooves even if u program them yourself= ? should a drum machine be only used for production but not for live looping? should a drum machine better stay home and be banned for live looping? should we not use the midi sync functions from looping devices like the EDP and Mobius to operate with groove boxes? should loopers be not allowed to dance? shoulkd we egg this scientlogy guy for using a drum machine live and never let him into our loopers cult? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-l3_gwIOTGI&feature=3Drelated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DM4yt3rH6lcQ&feature=3Drelated On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> >> I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for 3= 0 >> minutes, if the shit is good! :-) > > Yeah, =A0Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping sing= le > song that just builds and builds > with intensity. =A0 =A0 =A0It's just very rare in my experience. =A0 =A0 = It's just my > aesthetic so I don't mean to try and > convince everyone of it, =A0but too much canned shit loses me, emotionall= y > when I listen to a live looper > even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. =A0 If a > musician is creatively engaging the audience > with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last > loopfestival performances) I don't think it is > destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. > Honestly, =A0I think most live loopers > fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom i= n > such a case. =A0 Of course, > performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a > performance. =A0 =A0In other words, > though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important = in > a performance, =A0I honestly don't think it > is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint. > =A0NOT a musicians' standpoint. > > =A0In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of > different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to smal= l > or large band performances in many different > genres), =A0I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part = of a > musical performance and it's effectiveness. > Visual presentation, =A0audience interaction, even lighting and multi-med= ia > presentation can have a huge effect on > audience response. > > =A0Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but I'= ve > taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping > festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be > garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. =A0 = =A0 =A0It > shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers > decisions........indeed, > sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an > audience or to challenge them with > new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. > > Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of > each looping festival > has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience engage= d. > > It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, who > uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice > for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to > bottom. =A0 =A0She takes a long time to build her > loops, too. =A0 but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her > performances, despite being some of the > lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 22:09:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EC02183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:09:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Would all please try and edit your replies to the list for brevity's sake. There were 8 Daily Digest today. Most of us who signed up for the daily digest did so to reduce email and the number of digests to open means a longer time doing email in the morning. Please be considerate and edit your posts when you reply. How do to this: In Thunderbird, my email browser, all I do is highlight a portion of text that is immediately relevant and hit 'reply all' and it forwards with only that text included. I'm sure other email clients must work similarly. respectfully, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 22:11:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E37D183473; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q3vA+dvYYHCv91VIpSRwin3PYz39CAelw0pmzBni+Fo=; b=j1AFaQCox9B4ZFj+og/sypBXq27a3M/PNX+XByPsB7VtlHlbQUtk0Qnyw9jSzcOSEv cunzTfe5uE0IeJH0B7LIqu+R5vi74rkOUsAgkMBxTKsNY3jHMi+Jdj8hmiGDvwz7R/+Q /gj81/MJnXS11qYESZfJ6BbEg9WVFAVbfxQA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d2nqvihz/k3DN06N8GrMNMiCRb5UkeVTYJ44xpTAlrUwUSbJCeV+zprO2ZkH9yRnp8 5C/j78j3zJVZU9FcgjuYml+lxehC264bqB+6si7MRKwvKuu/UHbvo7cEAMX5k2+2WFqt LkA7WRcOIe6+5PKYlfmijFtaKQDn61t80hHDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:11:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:11:05 +0000 (UTC) yeah now thats a clear explanation Mark! shit i didnt know what i ve been missing,ive been just using it to access my personal files when im in other countries. 2 free GBs is quite generous for that as well. Yes Sjaak has been telling me about word press i think im gonna move all my webs into that soon. There is also Joomla here which ive been eyeballing,dont want a complex program,hows wordpress in that department? thanx man! Luis On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > I actually dont think it IS any good for hosting a website... TBH Im not > sure if you can even link to an image... well of course you can cos you c= an > mak a gallery, but as for hosting html or php or whatever...=A0 I dont th= ink > so... > You need a website? Why look any further than Wordpress? Personally I thi= nk > it saved my life... although I do have my own server space where I host > Wordpress, and that is a bit fiddly to set up. > > No... Dropbox is for sharing files with people, or Backup. > > Heres how it works: > > Lets say you were gonna collaborate on a song with Um... lets say Fabio.. > You start the track in Logic (or course... what else) and save it to your > Dropbox folder. Now this folder is ON YOUR MACHINE, very important that..= . > Just a regular folder. BUT.. Its a dropbox folder, so it copys > (automatically) all those groovy guitar lick files, and the Logic project= up > onto the World Wide Web (the internet for you youngsters). Now he gives > Fabio access (by going to the website) to that folder. Fabio looks on HIS > machine in HID Dropbox folder... and sure enough.. like magic.. there is = a > folder there called Louies Song. Fabio opens the project, remember its ON > HIS MACHINE, so no internet laggy shit... and plays some sensitive piano > shit.. Now they want some red hot drumming, certainly not some crappy old > loops or drum machine, so they add Rick to the Shared folder, and he does > his stuff... > > At this point, Louie wants all the control back, its HIS song, and sure a= s > fuck no one else is gonna mix it.. so he deletes them from the share, and > they're files no longer update. > > Now there MIGHT be a time when both have the same file open.. what happen= s? > well when one of them saves, it gets synched on the server, when the next > saves, its changes the name to Louies Song_conflicted copy... Its a fucku= p, > someone loses, but with a bit of clever copying and pasting you should be > OK. Its certainly better than the files trying to merge, which some > versioning systems try to do... > > > Its gonna totally revolutionize the way I am working with my friend in > Japan, if only the balding fucker would get of his fat ass and do some > frigging work... > > > Mark > > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 22:12:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75A4818347E; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oPCAHHG7XM0O+VM9tZUMVnKiNOOu8Iiagf2zxel2EQI=; b=oCOVz4GdxeR/4RuauOZS6YGBsMLmcjEbDSMePRVYPviC+/FpMDpf0bzsmmvCuJCFAg AeqdRpS6TPaIhO+XZlI0ttq/DBaErankLX0X8SQgwlzJ0OcsgMk2Yn2kvAR76S/09R5m O0a87MEfm/FSTPkgOLaUj95NghLyc4B71Y8CQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=njXOrzX1o0nmLwAKe9WEB63R/5JrxdWrSLnxyFijB9WmJxfguV0GiwlH7biQ6aBwUh eN+qaoda6QBkRSqz9oCn7JgC6YPG3t4bMBKZSlgsV9fscPeI3nXjfY3X4nS80LQJrn27 Nnqm53haEYY3YOy/MWSwA5gWwtWuhTfNhG9gs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:12:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Orange! From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:12:31 +0000 (UTC) how cool os that! On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=163 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 23:41:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F051A183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Rick's percussion post References: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Rick's percussion post thread-index: AcvCaXKsJA/5IJB+TyWlVZ8tiGUAbg== Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:40:16 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2011 23:41:16.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[84895B20:01CBC269] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:41:18 +0000 (UTC) Heck that guy will never make it!!! It dont really what kinda box we beat on, 90% of audiences dont have a clue.= =20 Now what I always wanted to do is a combination, and put drum triggers on st= uff in my show like: Dead cats Live armadillo Skillet Bloody halloween head Jar of mayonaise But you gotta remember thats from a guy who's newest band name might be Afra= id to Fart, so I'm kinda weird.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 1, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Louie Angulo wrote= : > Ok bro,something still intrigues me though,in Antwerp after my show > you said to me that my performance was nice but you wish i hadnt use > canned loops,then you realized after seeing my video that i had done > it all myself and you were amazed. > Which tell me that the musical end result from the rhytmic perspective > was now only acepted because i had done it with my mouth. > Yet you really liked Margaret Nobles performance but she used analog > grooves coming from the Jomox drum machine to accompany her looping. >=20 > Soooo my question is: > if i use a drum machine should it only be strange and abstract for it > to be accepted by loopers? > should loopers not use drum machine grooves even if u program them yoursel= f? > should a drum machine be only used for production but not for live looping= ? > should a drum machine better stay home and be banned for live looping? > should we not use the midi sync functions from looping devices like > the EDP and Mobius to operate with groove boxes? > should loopers be not allowed to dance? > shoulkd we egg this scientlogy guy for using a drum machine live and > never let him into our loopers cult? >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-l3_gwIOTGI&feature=3Drelated > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DM4yt3rH6lcQ&feature=3Drelated >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >>>=20 >>> I'm with Gareth here. Dont mind if someone builds his looping song for 3= 0 >>> minutes, if the shit is good! :-) >>=20 >> Yeah, Miro Mantere is a master of making a 30 minute live looping single= >> song that just builds and builds >> with intensity. It's just very rare in my experience. It's just m= y >> aesthetic so I don't mean to try and >> convince everyone of it, but too much canned shit loses me, emotionally >> when I listen to a live looper >> even if the loops are built quicker with such elements included. If a >> musician is creatively engaging the audience >> with their construction of a piece of music (witness, Miro's last >> loopfestival performances) I don't think it is >> destructive or counterproductive to take time to build a looping piece. >> Honestly, I think most live loopers >> fear an audiences boredom more than the audience actually feels boredom i= n >> such a case. Of course, >> performance aspects that are non musical can have a salutory effect on a >> performance. In other words, >> though I agree with Gareth that pure musical content is vastly important i= n >> a performance, I honestly don't think it >> is the end all and be all of all performance from an audience standpoint.= >> NOT a musicians' standpoint. >>=20 >> In fact, from my experience as a performing musician in dozens of >> different kinds of contexts (from live looping to solo performing to smal= l >> or large band performances in many different >> genres), I would say that pure music rarely makes up the largest part of= a >> musical performance and it's effectiveness. >> Visual presentation, audience interaction, even lighting and multi-media= >> presentation can have a huge effect on >> audience response. >>=20 >> Everything shouldn't be gauged by listener response, of course, but I've= >> taken to watching audiences' responses to performances at the looping >> festivals just as much as listening to the performers and a lot can be >> garnered from watching what flies and what engages and what doesn't. = It >> shouldn't be the only thing that guides a performers >> decisions........indeed, >> sometimes I think it's an artists' responsibility to even educate an >> audience or to challenge them with >> new modes of expression............but it is interesting to watch. >>=20 >> Being forced to be as present as possible by MCing 36 continual hours of >> each looping festival >> has been really instructive to me about trying to keep an audience engage= d. >>=20 >> It's always fascinated me that there are performers like Lilli Lewis, who= >> uses an RC-2, a microphone and her voice >> for an entire 30 minutes and has an audience just riveted from top to >> bottom. She takes a long time to build her >> loops, too. but there is something very visceral and 'real' about her >> performances, despite being some of the >> lowest tech shit to come down the pike in a long time at the festival. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 1 23:58:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84B0F183459; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EZOxjEBGZ1pg++yTYXF0y8AOes9Jm7CFDuA9c7Dyn9c=; b=KsusR6uVjXiZokYT/jOHu7BQitJ0vzIEhvxYJY196XRpHBRihbd91K53RIH0RAPLJT udEy5zRtJTgaTNn3IJCRDtAA+0ElIcEn8De1/Q2W+fntVm1Bl1D4ZFJt3vD53xpNoVAP mGumopabC5RlVth6nWZsiOApoFIUZpjyJFPIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ujs295+NnRp07+sjjm/ahe2NLTKhoQChabQXIJnHXWz51IQSq/HeLB5MKFvsVmLOFM ppayxVlaPxMSxrL+0GvH7pLFpdByOwBbBP11Z9/l9t6/KrO8Vvm+k6X4UIBphAcHH6xW Dx9To4zEzR5qFNDDTvckbJE1zRLxXZ5B0pNE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D47FF61.3030202@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:58:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:58:20 +0000 (UTC) There's all sorts of elements involved that contribute to whether one likes a performance, and they don't necessarily need to make sense to influence what people think. For example, I'm not fond of the use of drum machines or other forms of pre-recorded backing tracks, but for some reason I have no problem watching many solo performers on laptop computer. (Perhaps it's because with the laptoppers in question, I don't *know* which elements are canned and which are live. If I know that a computer musician is simply turning channels on and off for pre-recorded multitrack composition, I'm usually turned off.) But I hear a lot of people don't like live computer performances as a whole because it's often impossible to match movements to sounds. I have a strong dislike for performances where a cd player is used to supply one or more backing tracks. (At my venue we refer to that as "karaoke".) But on the other hand, I love it when a musician is actively performing with a cd player as an instrument. So yeah, it's the Chewbacca Defense - it does not make sense. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 00:04:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AFEF183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yjIiL8oEaFEBD7UL1M0MRov328S6ezcJxil+ZvFiGUw=; b=vbq9C66BDCPd1Jd8SiC6t77N1ln2PjIX9yFhARdlqnm3Ejo+VPwzA1rZBGdJL1nLpj nfuxsdIVKQHhQxPH+dnc2e+OcPUXjzq8qq6/ve9KQEwcJ3D6tjAPmoWOx8L9Wpvi0yN1 wuX7u+TEcl9Oofey1+RvS5S/sC/6kXbo2gqTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=GALEJ5irDadg59xCnS8FY3OTIiUovGUnmbjLixAk/YOQsmKMcE8N1XZ/F25+YC8xWN pDGLPcEio7K0Z503Pfennyoh7899qboTLTpIZVfTExUkNZZNxtYtcVZWKXf5VHGDsI5E /eee2RMMCJFfwBsogm0AHANZVmaDXvriL4hsc= References: <20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> <787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 01:03:38 +0100 Message-ID: <-4030192149094663069@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 1 Feb 2011, at 23:11, Louie Angulo wrote: > dont want a > complex program,hows wordpress in that department? Piece of piss... (English expression meaning somewhat simple) M From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 00:18:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBDA2183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-471108707 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:18:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:18:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-471108707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy O really? Sprach: " Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!!" Good Feedback , Andy and I hear all of you guys, thanks for constructive criticism. So the next vid I post will be at least a 3 camera shoot, there will be hair and make up, there will be babes and bling and hot cribs and rides, thats for dog gone sure!, There will be alot of rapid jump cuts between me actually playing my guitar, the babes diggin my style, and me, chillin with my homies and rockin it old school. Peace Out Bill --Apple-Mail-1-471108707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy O really? = Sprach:
" Yes = nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you = deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar = then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to = mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your = fingers!!"


 Good Feedback , Andy and I hear all of you = guys, thanks for constructive criticism.
  So  the next = vid I post will be at least a 3 camera shoot, there will be hair and = make up, there will be babes and bling and hot cribs and rides, thats = for dog gone sure!, There will be alot of rapid jump cuts between me = actually playing my guitar, the babes diggin my style, and  me, =  chillin with my homies and rockin it old = school.
Peace Out
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:09 PM,= Andy Owens <= andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

That thing is= amazing, I was looking at them a few years ago, before they had the 16 ch = one, that is amazing, you could build a whole mixer out of two of those eas= y.

=A0

From:= antonyhequet@yahoo.com [mailto:antonyhequet@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Ad= vice

=A0

= ANdy,

=A0

this is the ultimate audio patch bay with = loads of MIDI control

=A0

=A0

An= tony

=A0

<= b>From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, Febru= ary 1, 2011 6:20:22 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advi= ce

Antony wrote=A0

=A0

LP1 only has two inputs and you will need to balance levels anywa= y...

=A0

= Oooh, what if the LP1 could assign the two ins and six outs to = be controlled ins or outs either one, nice!!!

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal"> =A0

I am thinking of getti= ng a midi controlled patch bay, any recomendations?

=

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AndyO

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=A0control as guita= r and bass preamps will build up hum in you inputs. LP1 only has two inputs= and you will need to balance levels anyway...

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Antony Hequet

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= From: Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, Febru= ary 1, 2011 12:20:45 PM
Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Adv= ice

if you want to go down the sotware route, then you'd just ne= ed and audio interface with enough ins and outs and a laptop.

mobiu= s would be a good solution for your looper. each track can have it's ow= n dedicated input and definable out port, so you could assign each track it= 's own instument and then route it's output to the amplifier of cho= ice. it will also fufil all of your other requirements. you would probably = need a footpedal and a control surface to punch in and out and control trac= k volumes etc

sim

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM, and= y butler <ak= butler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

John Singletary wrote:

=A0First, I would like to = use a range of instruments (guitar, synth,
iphone, chaos pad, drum machi= nes, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the
ability to pick up an instrume= nt, record a loop, put it down, pick up
another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of
thes= e loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to
have it= s own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures
of 4, one = going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I
would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately
afte= r I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent
to a di= fferent output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar
amp and so= on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the
system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot
peda= ls to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of
how th= is could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.

=A0

Hi John,=
the only hardware looping tech that will give you that is the
Looper= lative LP1.
It has 8 stereo tracks which can be routed to 3 different st= ereo
outputs and have individual control over volume and pan.
(so with pannin= g that's 6 mono outputs)
To do the sync you'd have to record a o= ne measure loop as
Master, then any addition loops can be any made to fit exact numbers of measures.

It's controllable by a simple mid= i pedal (and you'd maybe
want a desktop midi controller to mix the l= oop output volumes).

You'll also need a small mixer.

andy butler

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--001517512236f6269c049b4250db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 02:12:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA73F183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 02:12:35 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_N8praPYSBrcGKJk0UcvR0g)" X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=b0sI0M7bjhCmEOs51LbeKzGQ5ECIs9m+H5QCeOcUmtc= c=1 sm=1 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=g3azmnmmSCL_YrLVf7YA:9 a=s-VrrgE34hSuh1wXoIoA:7 a=X3n5sIyVwKTfwU2nSOqyxZUNql0A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Y4g+zi6NJtbRuBVJrbSZ6Q==:117 From: Mike Kilburn To: Looper's Delight Subject: unsubcribe Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:42:44 -0400 Message-id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <3R9vS.A.gZF.T2LSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:12:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_N8praPYSBrcGKJk0UcvR0g) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT --Boundary_(ID_N8praPYSBrcGKJk0UcvR0g) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

 

--Boundary_(ID_N8praPYSBrcGKJk0UcvR0g)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 03:11:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F094C18345A; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 111638 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:11:09 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=cGll7OmQrgkpfB+lNnJHDNzNvdOSsPddxuQqfAcUZC3TykdYWA/F1HcGXXatc oBem2/lFO6NztQmDdlQKJuNquwPgtM97n0QKjgbUCiOztYuxHBkfe2YAo8Pk1pU9 mtH7qlVB1NKNA4QRVzY47Wl7q6ZxpnvMPm4RI/sfPd2hKM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=WoDmu dYAAyKU6ZCLxAkyUQ8mSjU=; b=CVtOzRYZSjn5rcjIPu2k2U6mmq8Hq7rriARDt P9CelUNzIY0XjjZPlC+a/2fhPIX7BatknqS38rxKg6USMRy9c7L2exAk+YiAQ2PK Vr+Ya3UaOP6uTeERKu4NAnSiBbdI+MS+hz/kHUT9/3fJ64REFbMjXrvUnR6y0ZNL 69deCg= Message-ID: <19c72651a8329f0665453090691068ae.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:11:06 -0800 Subject: WTT: Moog Voyager Electric Blue Kybd for Voyager RME From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "AH" Cc: "Loopers Delight" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Title sez it, I've got a gorgeous Moog Voyager Electric Blue Edition keyboard with 3.X OS 100% working and cosmetically beautiful. Stunning really. I'm considering trading it for the Rack mount Edition Voyager. I love the sounds but quite frankly this keyboard is so gorgeous I never dare take i= t out live and I think I'd be just as happy with a RME. I will miss the touch surface which is the wolf's balls and the extra in/outs but I'm willing to sacrifice some to get something more portable. I live in Phila Pa so the trade would have to be US only and preferably a meet up or face to face but I'm open to figuring out a way to do it with shipping as well. Obviously the deal would be a RME plus cash for the Electric Blue since the keyboard is $1K more new but I'm open to listening to offers and making this easier (ie: drop off here in phila, cash or no paypal fees, etc etc) will also be taken into consideration. I have references going back to the mid 90s on and off this list, eb*y, and the 'net in general. If you've ever wanted to trade from a RME to a Voyager keyboard I'm your guy and now is your time :) Thanks for reading. Any questions please email me! D_ --=20 --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 03:27:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3DC7183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.1B757403" Subject: RE: midi patch bay Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:27:19 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9892@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: midi patch bay Thread-Index: AcvCdgLjpr8H89M9QPuKzi4qUrUjCAAEqUAw References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk><122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2011 03:27:39.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[24A03BA0:01CBC289] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:27:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.1B757403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah James I really like the idea of multiple outs too from one source, that is a cool possibility, on more rabbit hole to fall into!!!! =20 Rick I am all trimmed and waxed up, see!!!! NO extraneous letters! Man sorry bout that, somehow on Iphone there is no setting, that I can find, to tell it not to include text when you reply, weird. =20 Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.1B757403 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah James I really like the idea of multiple outs too = from one source, that is a cool possibility, on more rabbit hole to fall = into!!!!

 

Rick I am all trimmed and waxed up, see!!!! NO extraneous letters! Man sorry bout that, somehow on Iphone there is no setting, = that I can find, to tell it not to include text when you reply, = weird.

 

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.1B757403-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 03:31:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D5B1183451; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AO0m ARFb AWup CL8W DEj5 DMW2 DfsL DsVk Ebgn E2hY E701 HQyM JsHF KP0x KSky K0mS;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{D9331AE5-D32A-4787-97D9-58DE4D8E16A2};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:31:14 GMT;QgBlAGkAbgBnACAAbwBuAGUA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.ADB9CF58" x-cr-puzzleid: {D9331AE5-D32A-4787-97D9-58DE4D8E16A2} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Being one Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:31:14 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9893@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Being one Thread-Index: AcvCdgLjpr8H89M9QPuKzi4qUrUjCAAExdVQ References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk><122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2011 03:31:56.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE17F3E0:01CBC289] Resent-Message-ID: <7doEj.A.Oh.tANSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:31:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.ADB9CF58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok ya'll not trying to get wiggy here, but I am recovering from shoulder surgery and been spending a lot of time on my rig, and was just wondering..... =20 Do ya'll ever feel like you are kind of becoming one with your rig, like it starts to become just one big instrument, no matter how many axes or buttons or knobs or whatever you got, does it sometimes feel like its just a natural extension of your creative output, like you are becoming one with the machine? =20 Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.ADB9CF58 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok ya’ll not trying to get wiggy here, but I am = recovering from shoulder surgery and been spending a lot of time on my rig, and was = just wondering…..

 

Do ya’ll ever feel like you are kind of becoming = one with your rig, like it starts to become just one big instrument, no matter = how many axes or buttons or knobs or whatever you got, does it sometimes feel = like its just a natural extension of your creative output, like you are becoming = one with the machine?

 

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC289.ADB9CF58-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 03:53:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2913C183451; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LhWmG61H7kJ7v25xEndk5IKQLYvxj9wrkLbVanVhm5U=; b=wcWiFDVORlffZCLQDYPPkkI78TT+9jKCDJU0crezHq9YgJrxPumTg4eU5hzgCU3a2T Kr7gD/ttFu96aYyAYXpUPcX197IGgrJCPRpIVr5R8sAgzZONXHjCrd1NqhlBeodjp9xS foiRNH8sDKqu5Nk6afRSZhHvmsVcgKs9YTkRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wkhOa2mi1Az9eEtsBciqdbErsQNWv2jWl7I/LyZs7u6xUKoWf/BbgDIWhMFy7loA41 rZrnI4fq1PdO9REnpvuGN3ZpD4t7jd2Hcaf+QL8iD3ts2Ap3N3EeoenMnX22Sv0hmSpv qrp3tAnVHcMUnQg81Ek+gQixVwhth/wLWlpGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:53:36 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215048e3bf316ae049b44977e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 03:53:38 +0000 (UTC) --002215048e3bf316ae049b44977e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bravo Todd! Well done, just beautiful. Really, I don't know what else to say. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael > Jackson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after Rick's > post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark's post about > how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which I do in this > video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:) > > > http://vimeo.com/19364422 > > > > I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. > > > > -Todd Matthews > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --002215048e3bf316ae049b44977e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bravo Todd!

Well done, just beautiful. Really, I don't know what= else to say.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:2= 6 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
I made another lo= oping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael Jackson's Billie= Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after Rick's post ab= out using your own instrument for percussion and Mark's post about how = much he hates looper's building up their loops, which I do in this vide= o. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:)





I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly= .=A0



-Todd Matthews



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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
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--002215048e3bf316ae049b44977e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 04:17:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 483C8183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 04:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8DBED88A-E605-4322-924A-D9EC43D1CB89@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-485430678 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:16:50 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <2hcUN.A.6dC.7qNSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 04:16:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-485430678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Luis said: "should we egg this scientology guy for using a drum machine live and never let him into our loopers cult?" I think this is an excellent idea:-) I think we all think too much I think, therefore I am, I think Bill --Apple-Mail-2-485430678 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Luis said:
"should we egg this scientology guy for using a drum machine live and
never let him into our loopers cult?"


I think this is an excellent idea:-)
 I think we all think too much
I think, therefore I am, I think
Bill
--Apple-Mail-2-485430678-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 06:01:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01E40183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_242c5efc-8c91-41ce-b853-8b4185c45d16_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Orange! Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:01:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2011 06:01:23.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EC011C0:01CBC29E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:01:25 +0000 (UTC) --_242c5efc-8c91-41ce-b853-8b4185c45d16_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where's the screen? It looks like an april fool.. but it's Feb. peace G > Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb 2011 23:12:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: Orange! > From: louie.angulo@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > how cool os that! >=20 > On Tue=2C Feb 1=2C 2011 at 6:37 AM=2C Jeff Duke wro= te: > > http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=3D163 > > >=20 = --_242c5efc-8c91-41ce-b853-8b4185c45d16_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where's the screen? It looks like an april fool.. but it's Feb.

peac= e

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>=3B Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb 2011 23:12:30 +0100
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>=3B On Tue=2C Feb 1=2C 2011 at 6:37 AM=2C Jeff Duke <= =3Bjeffloops@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
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= --_242c5efc-8c91-41ce-b853-8b4185c45d16_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 06:02:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45DC218345B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:02:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a89724b2-6bb7-4e93-83da-0b6da691b0e0_" X-Originating-IP: [86.138.35.202] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:02:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,<20110201153632.17275dbjl7ecqko4@www.wightman.ca> ,<787985.5674.qm@web59712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2011 06:02:23.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[C25988A0:01CBC29E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:02:25 +0000 (UTC) --_a89724b2-6bb7-4e93-83da-0b6da691b0e0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent explanation Mark. I think I'll check this out myself. G From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb 2011 22:37:07 +0100 Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbox. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I actually dont think it IS any good for hosting a website... TBH Im not su= re if you can even link to an image... well of course you can cos you can m= ak a gallery=2C but as for hosting html or php or whatever... I dont think= so...=20 You need a website? Why look any further than Wordpress? Personally I think= it saved my life... although I do have my own server space where I host Wo= rdpress=2C and that is a bit fiddly to set up. No... Dropbox is for sharing files with people=2C or Backup. Heres how it works: Lets say you were gonna collaborate on a song with Um... lets say Fabio.. Y= ou start the track in Logic (or course... what else) and save it to your Dr= opbox folder. Now this folder is ON YOUR MACHINE=2C very important that... = Just a regular folder. BUT.. Its a dropbox folder=2C so it copys (automatic= ally) all those groovy guitar lick files=2C and the Logic project up onto t= he World Wide Web (the internet for you youngsters). Now he gives Fabio acc= ess (by going to the website) to that folder. Fabio looks on HIS machine in= HID Dropbox folder... and sure enough.. like magic.. there is a folder the= re called Louies Song. Fabio opens the project=2C remember its ON HIS MACHI= NE=2C so no internet laggy shit... and plays some sensitive piano shit.. No= w they want some red hot drumming=2C certainly not some crappy old loops or= drum machine=2C so they add Rick to the Shared folder=2C and he does his s= tuff... At this point=2C Louie wants all the control back=2C its HIS song=2C and su= re as fuck no one else is gonna mix it.. so he deletes them from the share= =2C and they're files no longer update. Now there MIGHT be a time when both have the same file open.. what happens?= well when one of them saves=2C it gets synched on the server=2C when the n= ext saves=2C its changes the name to Louies Song_conflicted copy... Its a f= uckup=2C someone loses=2C but with a bit of clever copying and pasting you = should be OK. Its certainly better than the files trying to merge=2C which = some versioning systems try to do... Its gonna totally revolutionize the way I am working with my friend in Japa= n=2C if only the balding fucker would get of his fat ass and do some friggi= ng work... Mark --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no = --_a89724b2-6bb7-4e93-83da-0b6da691b0e0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent explanation Mark. I think I'll check this out myself.
G
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Tue=2C 1 Feb= 2011 22:37:07 +0100
Subject: Re: VERY OT: A humble request about Dropbo= x.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

I actually dont think = it IS any good for hosting a website... TBH Im not sure if you can even lin= k to an image... well of course you can cos you can mak a gallery=2C but as= for hosting html or php or whatever... =3B I dont think so...
You need a website? Why look any further than Wordpress? Personally I think= it saved my life... although I do have my own server space where I host Wo= rdpress=2C and that is a bit fiddly to set up.

No... Dropbox is for = sharing files with people=2C or Backup.

Heres how it works:

Lets say you were gonna collaborate on a son= g with Um... lets say Fabio.. You start the track in Logic (or course... wh= at else) and save it to your Dropbox folder. Now this folder is ON YOUR MAC= HINE=2C very important that... Just a regular folder. BUT.. Its a dropbox f= older=2C so it copys (automatically) all those groovy guitar lick files=2C = and the Logic project up onto the World Wide Web (the internet for you youn= gsters). Now he gives Fabio access (by going to the website) to that folder= . Fabio looks on HIS machine in HID Dropbox folder... and sure enough.. lik= e magic.. there is a folder there called Louies Song. Fabio opens the proje= ct=2C remember its ON HIS MACHINE=2C so no internet laggy shit... and plays= some sensitive piano shit.. Now they want some red hot drumming=2C certain= ly not some crappy old loops or drum machine=2C so they add Rick to the Sha= red folder=2C and he does his stuff...

At this point=2C Louie wants all the control back=2C its HIS song=2C an= d sure as fuck no one else is gonna mix it.. so he deletes them from the sh= are=2C and they're files no longer update.

Now there MIGHT be a time= when both have the same file open.. what happens? well when one of them sa= ves=2C it gets synched on the server=2C when the next saves=2C its changes = the name to Louies Song_conflicted copy... Its a fuckup=2C someone loses=2C= but with a bit of clever copying and pasting you should be OK. Its certain= ly better than the files trying to merge=2C which some versioning systems t= ry to do...


Its gonna totally revolutionize the way I am working with my friend= in Japan=2C if only the balding fucker would get of his fat ass and do som= e frigging work...


Mark




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mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no
= --_a89724b2-6bb7-4e93-83da-0b6da691b0e0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 06:30:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43F90183451; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 06:30:05 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:28:14 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: "The Liquid Piano" a new Video on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I posted a video called "The Liquid Piano" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_DnGzvg_w Enjoy! "The Liquid Piano" is an excerpt from a performance I did with Dave Bryant (Ornette Coleman alumnus) on piano, and Eric Sack on camera. Dancer Nicole Bindler makes a non-real-tine appearance, as does old friend Margie (Greta) Canty. I run a monthly series called Visual Music Live, at Outpost 186, a cozy performance space near Inman Square in Cambridge, MA. I brought 4 or 5 DVD players, 3 video mixers and a large number of pre-made DVD's to mix, while Dave played the house piano and Eric sent me a video feed with ample opportunities for feedback. The performance was completely improvised --- the only preplanning was starting out the set with imagery of water. This piece is taken from the start of the set, hence the title. My aim (both while performing and while preparing DVD's for use in these performances) is to treat my visual materials improvisationally, with the same attitude and some of the same strategies that improvising musicians use. I try to create pieces that are like music, but have both a visual and a sonic element BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 07:02:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00F5183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=97Z9+95GeSFpE9wLYek3uKKSNIzZLCj/lJcVDvz0OH4=; b=x00iToSeQlw4d1Vxj9hk7tR+KF2SsBoe4ZV7fmeKwjd4LqCu5xbe8M9YU18gOIvPYJ ooVbzd7xJJzDAlUeN2E2kNt1I81PZEnF4Nke2yqBZZCBwM9m7rshbHUPCnSuzxvICHfz 3/5wL8RAperaxQ3XZSVhFp1dIzkMxwcPsOiQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=rrI550ybi+lgaYndHNlTQfHbC2vYKOjXElYq2QD3z0B4rr0urOsnsmhSNX3Eh35xeJ OUIxeL8z/QVw91AMV2KESmBN5HXWrVeVRCKP/pXk+DNfFIwXgpl3urLucgdPSAETpIJT Pbyp3EU9vRsHIousL2lV/7yL7ldMXg5XxeJ/o= References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9892@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9892@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:02:36 +0100 Message-ID: <-6134224153988868044@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi patch bay To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a5fe20736049b473ced Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:02:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a5fe20736049b473ced Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Highlight the bit you like, hit reply... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 2 Feb 2011, at 04:27, "Andy Owens" wrote: on Iphone there is no setting, that I can find, to tell it not to include text when you reply, weird. Andy o --20cf30549a5fe20736049b473ced Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Highlight the bit you like, hit reply.= ..=A0

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 2 Feb 20= 11, at 04:27, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

on Iphone there is no setting, that I can find, to tell it not to include text when you reply, weird.

=A0

Andy o

--20cf30549a5fe20736049b473ced-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 07:55:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1944183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296633315; bh=w8IeT0z96DKAz372fcsUD2gHzksu6tSwwJJwXu2qL1A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XlSisIz8RJz+9nljLSxD01/2VzZN7Cklt8LVFrXQv8FuPoel67v12rWNOnE3ABVC37aPxZ7GGQdhi1Xz4JZzegTiQfNlhv5SkhFGprdTofrrf1fVQnccVMIkH0byfkv7oQKPNcWDrgx8b2ST8xq4M7MZe8PCe2Ditjjh7Y8KglM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ULVT0yHpARRHe5CRwtS6QYgsHt2vy5LdttTTX3ppzThOfHVGwNe6X76yxPOdpXnYOeJtviVBy1yT4F0UgnmzLx5bVCZJMuvHvRCTJRXEwxPo92ATPIkhpsFfvf/LxOf6I4ecHQElBa4CW3i0LBKgjt7p9zAY0y/53yUKyjkdcPo=; Message-ID: <724463.24457.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EhapGTcVM1kPp__2HTy4t3sy0Gx_ckkkMhz7.5BNWT3_rEv I5QpTpfhQOjhCmSUw7UTwPIAr_LPxjcMOrT2X6wGxz0OlsOTrKUnFEDndQjs iZL54a9_o.Iiz2KeIbUfCG_C3LpbKykum.RPMtESqvnpnAe0YAGpylaXRPnO cfNujDZno1613gChoA6RRbWWbDvdhc3lK.C4bppl3LK7dIsRl9kvNAVE.5TZ WFn4yuCW6QsMAotPZX8uvrZrkyBFWVEy.1rKrJ5VeUNl1LxqCAxrSPuV29W6 RZE7bAlQDdvEt X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk><122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9893@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Being one To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9893@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1570903499-1296633315=:24457" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:55:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1570903499-1296633315=:24457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey Andy,=0A=0Ayou are becoming wiggy, too much fresh air and meditation ca= n do it:-)=0A=0ANot only do I get that feeling but I seek and crave it!=0A= =0AAntony Hequet=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Andy O= wens =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASe= nt: Wed, February 2, 2011 4:31:14 AM=0ASubject: Being one=0A=0A =0AOk ya=E2= =80=99ll not trying to get wiggy here, but I am recovering from shoulder su= rgery =0Aand been spending a lot of time on my rig, and was just wondering= =E2=80=A6..=0A =0ADo ya=E2=80=99ll ever feel like you are kind of becoming = one with your rig, like it =0Astarts to become just one big instrument, no = matter how many axes or buttons or =0Aknobs or whatever you got, does it so= metimes feel like its just a natural =0Aextension of your creative output, = like you are becoming one with the machine?=0A =0AAndy o=0A=0A=0A --0-1570903499-1296633315=:24457 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey Andy,

you are becoming wiggy, too mu= ch fresh air and meditation can do it:-)

Not only = do I get that feeling but I seek and crave it!

Ant= ony Hequet

<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From: Andy Owens <andy@1800= dialword.com>
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 4:31:14 AM
Subject: Being one

=0A=0A=0A=0A = =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ok ya=E2=80=99ll not trying to get wiggy here= , but I am recovering=0Afrom shoulder surgery and been spending a lot of ti= me on my rig, and was just=0Awondering=E2=80=A6..

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Do ya=E2=80=99ll ever feel like you are kind of becoming one with=0Ayou= r rig, like it starts to become just one big instrument, no matter how many= =0Aaxes or buttons or knobs or whatever you got, does it sometimes feel lik= e its=0Ajust a natural extension of your creative output, like you are beco= ming one=0Awith the machine?

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Andy o

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=0A=0A --0-1570903499-1296633315=:24457-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 07:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9713918345B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296633553; bh=yvmXaSCMWnmIRMV3TE2Du3Bgm6231yDB2nXlc9CKTvQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5I+sNwC9OfdMZQ9S4F/vL99+KuJwXj21T04gSRMqR6kEKvuACTO2zP6VGwCtu1N/0lmn58IPxn1XWwRV1RAQrqV0c+mY00iOS6CxP4vOWC9sfh1E7osJ1K111uKynEiwpPHgSFvDSHQqxFGEKTwN4Z7MWyO/EQnI5Zapv1BQXCk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aeAuosNIkcwAReKhf6M5qJflrsIm0flahSIYszQPAuBRjfPv9iXp/VIiTVWuMt5jvN/D4UHioIJiKdDSUvzaQkovQtfV+3zyvRFEMpBsYlVuobZbEPrgJzw5TaKBNRfBOLd7etdlxoIXNkcqHx3EJkh4wPr8VfFeq8UTt3OoicA=; Message-ID: <112527.95262.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .bGaT28VM1kx7P3Bj5ERUWrf4rWz9BCfao4F4QIZw7QQ51e clKOtlyPn2AL3yku2VU5pd8eYVUMGQwhER9.QLDt0INPys3VgwFnY7K1u_Ay h8Lt5eGJgjOGC2AI355gZ4C0eKUOsAwACNievnvCPaTgC5TIwZIaD89JPIVj apwoAnTIQJN64dsEl6H_7tdyQaMv0E8Y4jrXntDA1FmEfBk2BT796VdLxZJA IoED9htVMEtcGYvEPNc1S_joBN7mz_XUYmVtj1bQgyg9hEZImL7LH6MhEcEM r6o6ZyAMuU19s8NcwpaAdg9o- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:59:12 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1880889979-1296633552=:95262" Resent-Message-ID: <_22m9.A.sxD.S7QSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:59:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1880889979-1296633552=:95262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii make that hot hippy chicks instead of bling babes and hot water springs instead of jacuzzies, forget the rides and bring in the wild ponies Antony ________________________________ From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 1:18:08 AM Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Andy O really? Sprach: " Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!!" Good Feedback , Andy and I hear all of you guys, thanks for constructive criticism. So the next vid I post will be at least a 3 camera shoot, there will be hair and make up, there will be babes and bling and hot cribs and rides, thats for dog gone sure!, There will be alot of rapid jump cuts between me actually playing my guitar, the babes diggin my style, and me, chillin with my homies and rockin it old school. Peace Out Bill --0-1880889979-1296633552=:95262 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
make that hot hippy chicks instead of bling babes and hot water springs instead of jacuzzies, forget the rides and bring in the wild ponies

Antony

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 1:18:08 AM
Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace

Andy O really? Sprach:
" Yes nice, the switches dont bother me but that hat is pretty ugly, can you deal with that please? And if you would lower the action on that gitar then you could hold it up like regular folks and you wouldnt have to mash the strings down with that chunk of rebar, you could use your fingers!!"


 Good Feedback , Andy and I hear all of you guys, thanks for constructive criticism.
  So  the next vid I post will be at least a 3 camera shoot, there will be hair and make up, there will be babes and bling and hot cribs and rides, thats for dog gone sure!, There will be alot of rapid jump cuts between me actually playing my guitar, the babes diggin my style, and  me,  chillin with my homies and rockin it old school.
Peace Out
 Bill

--0-1880889979-1296633552=:95262-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 11:06:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4D07183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=p1BbENc4B4nY2Err2aNc1fW05huSkwR1ikEH0/FjdD0=; b=PKCzxcYzbIIArYh4faTRus22FiPUabxVTEBpTSA3JJj8tj/cJhlhoSDteH1yBQu9Zo f/ZYIGvJ7YyZTlNmG1tLLySCzBMLjq4D7ejF8/za1mnfTTKr4F8C+3KYBGfv3AZYJ0zl TsTDX+5JqW6ZBd32pJfvDatqKIOEhNbH496tI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=piD9PJ9EWjrlAjF8Zmq0fP4waspxHQr4AM72CT64XRPOHOseVF+BD185EpUjwRK54K A8H0XiKAdB5nmYIptCEvdt9X2eCr7u9tydaCfK73BoymDb2z1t8OTrncwqiT2vJ6jcx+ 9zD3IxnFZXrenZYar5VM85TrQ9x2HGjWWjbro= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-510012166 Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 06:06:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <75E2FD50-529E-438D-B293-8362FDF392FB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:06:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-510012166 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Art! On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Bravo Todd! > Well done, just beautiful. Really, I don't know what else to say. > > http://vimeo.com/19364422 > > I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. --Apple-Mail-1-510012166 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks Art! 

On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Art Simon wrote:
Bravo Todd!
Well done, just beautiful. Really, I don't know what else to say.


I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. 

--Apple-Mail-1-510012166-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 11:15:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23B82183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D493CC6.5010302@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:15:18 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , LUIS ANGULO Subject: Re: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:15:27 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > "Ok bro,something still intrigues me though,in Antwerp after my show > you said to me that my performance was nice but you wish i hadnt use > canned loops,then you realized after seeing my video that i had done > it all myself and you were amazed." > Important distinction. I was backstage and unable to see your performance so I only heard it and didn't get the whole 'gestalt'. I felt a little sheepish having said that to you because I was unable from the backstage room to really get a good perspective on your set. It was, if you'll recall, the standout set of the whole festival as far as audience response went. I was actually quite proud of you for that. "Which tell me that the musical end result from the rhytmic perspective was now only acepted because i had done it with my mouth." Well, that of course is my feeling about it, but I'm also just one person and NOT the arbiter of all things aesthetic and good "Yet you really liked Margaret Nobles performance but she used analog grooves coming from the Jomox drum machine to accompany her looping." Such different types of music, it's like apples and oranges, Luis, really. I think Margaret is particularly adept at picking intriguing timbres and she comes from a much more avant garde/experimental space than I think you do. I happen to resonate with her sonic choices particularly. In the case of your performances, I personally think that you are very soulful and heartfelt (and talented) with a bit more of an 'inside' aesthetic. It's just my personal take on it, but I really like it when you go the simpler, less high tech and in my mind, 'more organic' route, but I certainly don't want to make you think that I want to fence you in, aesthetically by saying it. I truly support you to do whatever it is you want to do artistically. I'm currently writing the most inside record of my entire life.........it's strange and fun to not be relying on a lot of looping , digital sound design or experimental elements. I also run the risk of people really not resonating with what I do on it. But it's important as artists that we just be who we feel we need to be so I hope you understand that this the base philosophy of all of my comments. I'm really interested in the dialectic, here at L.D. Sometimes, for me, it's really good to say something strong and then to learn from the other strong responses that people post in reply or in opposition. > Soooo my question is: > if i use a drum machine should it only be strange and abstract for it > to be accepted by loopers? I can only answer personally, which is just me, of course: When rhythms are conventional and sound choices are conventional, I prefer very minimalistic grooves. They sound more the way drummers play or they sound like a hell of a lot of looped rhythmic music dating from the beginnings of hip hop through trip hop to the current era. I also love when people use fascinating substitutions for the kinds of drums found typically in trapset drum kits (kick, snare, hi hats, cymbals, toms, cowbells, tambourines, triangles, et. al.) Personally, I love very exotic sound choices just because they give the ear a breath of fresh air (to be synaesthetic about it). I still am a fan, personally, of minimalism in such choices. > should loopers not use drum machine grooves even if u program them yourself? Personally, I love drum machines. I have a collection of about 17 machines from the pre-digital era and two or three digital drum machines on top of that, including an Alesis SR16 that I have frequently used only to trigger more idiosyncratic and personally designed percussion/drum sounds in samplers I've owned. I also love the work my wife has done, taking simple analogue drum machines used to accompany organs which she then processes through analogue guitar stomp box pedals to make interesting timbral choices. > should a drum machine be only used for production but not for live looping? Personally, I'd never make such a constraint...................it would be like asking, should acoustic guitars every be used for live playing........as always, the answer has to do with what is actually done with the a drum machine. > should a drum machine better stay home and be banned for live looping? LOL, now you are just getting silly, buddy. I'm not an anti-drum machine Nazi, after all. > should we not use the midi sync functions from looping devices like > the EDP and Mobius to operate with groove boxes? > should loopers be not allowed to dance? Absolutely. Looping dancing prison Gulag is where I'd send them all (that's sarcasm there, I hope you understand). > shoulkd we egg this scientlogy guy for using a drum machine live and > never let him into our loopers cult? Well, I obviously have hit a nerve with you for my comments. I didn't mean to single you out, honestly. I just used you as an example with my own feelings about all the performances I've seen at all the loop festivals in Europe, the UK, Japan and North America. Please dont' take it personally.............it's just a jumping off point for a dialectic as I mentioned earlier. I'm actually a huge fan of yours, bro. You have to understand that, or at least talk to the dozens of people who I've sung your praises to over the years. respectfully and with love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 11:50:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EDDF183459; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: "The Liquid Piano" a new Video on You Tube Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:50:35 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: <7f2eKB.A.oVE.GUUSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:50:30 +0000 (UTC) ?Lovely jazz piano and vid, Emile. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:28 AM To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com ; boss-improv@topica.com ; iotacenter@egroups.com ; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com ; atari-midi@yahoogroups.com ; Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: "The Liquid Piano" a new Video on You Tube Hi folks, I posted a video called "The Liquid Piano" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_DnGzvg_w Enjoy! "The Liquid Piano" is an excerpt from a performance I did with Dave Bryant (Ornette Coleman alumnus) on piano, and Eric Sack on camera. Dancer Nicole Bindler makes a non-real-tine appearance, as does old friend Margie (Greta) Canty. I run a monthly series called Visual Music Live, at Outpost 186, a cozy performance space near Inman Square in Cambridge, MA. I brought 4 or 5 DVD players, 3 video mixers and a large number of pre-made DVD's to mix, while Dave played the house piano and Eric sent me a video feed with ample opportunities for feedback. The performance was completely improvised --- the only preplanning was starting out the set with imagery of water. This piece is taken from the start of the set, hence the title. My aim (both while performing and while preparing DVD's for use in these performances) is to treat my visual materials improvisationally, with the same attitude and some of the same strategies that improvising musicians use. I try to create pieces that are like music, but have both a visual and a sonic element BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 12:14:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF5918345B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-514097439 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:14:37 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:14:37 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:14:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-514097439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awesome sounds. Truly a beautiful piece. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-2-514097439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome sounds. Truly a = beautiful piece. 

= --Apple-Mail-2-514097439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 13:13:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 074BA18345E; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vMkIgbHvPZCtpdWD6+EBhJhDyDTK3M1en9A1gLRbj10=; b=VJQsWvKd0qDUOBWlPWyhDiOulmWoLPykYzdP50OCL7uXhCwqK3kvWm1ntl4SR/p+fx bJr3BLuPAVSAqwTGLyyJwgt7W1TibhMAVFlQWMj2A0Fv6ASphdAqTaPD6A8Q3/UM2uED phUTevbW0xBBXBrxDe6CvTYe+L6ykaEYYcR4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t8NS91Bd42C6ytNsGsdawFPgOlBvJRHzxXBqJ0ZE/RDDt2YaatK1AWCeRdFaFpo1A+ uSnmrLDqzBLx0KerNT3bqNpk9+B7pXTlQyKPfAPGiwV5bkRxESDoqRPTFUmplzioBksE L+7G6STZ7SuSeQ1TxT0bohA5SMjIddWgjAeYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9893@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <4D47E5D8.2080504@tiscali.co.uk> <122748.61595.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <259512.97373.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF97F2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9893@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:12:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Being one From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b5536634b5049b4c68a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:13:01 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b5536634b5049b4c68a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That should be the goal, no matter what the psychiatrists say ;-D -Petri 2011/2/2 Andy Owens > Ok ya=92ll not trying to get wiggy here, but I am recovering from should= er > surgery and been spending a lot of time on my rig, and was just wondering= =85.. > > > > Do ya=92ll ever feel like you are kind of becoming one with your rig, lik= e it > starts to become just one big instrument, no matter how many axes or butt= ons > or knobs or whatever you got, does it sometimes feel like its just a natu= ral > extension of your creative output, like you are becoming one with the > machine? > > > > Andy o > --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --001636c5b5536634b5049b4c68a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That should be the goal, no matter what the psychiatrists say ;-D

-P= etri

2011/2/2 Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>= ;

Ok ya=92ll not trying to get wiggy here, but I am recovering from shoulder surgery and been spending a lot of time on my rig, and was ju= st wondering=85..

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Do ya=92ll ever feel like you are kind of becoming one with your rig, like it starts to become just one big instrument, no matter how m= any axes or buttons or knobs or whatever you got, does it sometimes feel like i= ts just a natural extension of your creative output, like you are becoming one with the machine?

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--001636c5b5536634b5049b4c68a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 14:58:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A91B718345C; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Mobius and nuendo or cubase References: <9F124D4D-694C-4958-A5CD-12CB108C985C@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-22-523907392"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:58:06 -0500 Thread-Topic: Mobius and nuendo or cubase Thread-Index: AcvC6aahvp/+qAy0RjmpSPUaBlh0oQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2011 14:58:32.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8FA3710:01CBC2E9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22-523907392 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes thats the one I have, awesome with lp1. Looks like the new one has light= s, would be nice to know what button was pushed last. Are you expert on the N= ovation? Only thing I wish different about novation is in a particular template, say y= ou want to have one button brings up a synth sound, another say an organ sou= nd, doesnt seem you can change the keyboard out channel, it is set per templ= ate.=20 Andy Owens 1-800-AndyOwens Sent from my iPhone So the typing might not be my best! On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Simeon Harris wr= ote: > hi andy, no i've never used Nuendo.=20 >=20 > as for the control surface, you're right, it's a Novation Remote Zero SL (= the older one). i like the look of the newer one, but it seems to have less b= uttons. >=20 > sim >=20 > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey Sim, have you ever ran Mobius in Nuendo? I have two Steinberg 8IO's th= at would be a pretty stable looper if it worked. >=20 > Are you using a Novation work surface? 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It hadn't even occured to me that there was such a problem. Now I know! Just a suggestion for anyone out there: Gmail works brilliantly with this list (and other lists). Gmail organizes e-mails into conversation threads. For example, if there are 500 replies to a thread called "The EDP and the Looperlative and me" instead of getting 500 separate e-mails floating in your inbox, Gmail will organize those e-mails into one "conversation thread" and put a "500" next to it. It's super slick! Inbox screenshot: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/untitled.jpg View of a conversation: http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/hartattack72/untitled2.jpg Adam --0015174c1c28d90e35049b4e2278 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0015174c1c28d90e35049b4e2278-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 15:33:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F646183466; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VL6T84c/4kkAJBYRk9ttFuD3kKzuIAaw7P5CXkuZ2vA=; b=BaNdz0via7yNB2edC7elRHoOR6gZ1dzSt5HEj30M810jOyNtjF1ufQpxVxIl0AsgjA ekB1Ti5TkseldgrU+dBx0rAf89MnI65I+KeZ0GwBd6oijix7Poctfm8gxSwrX5BPAS9w v2fazgA6oiff8hFQtp63jM2VnKhsLoJ1yKmew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pZ9kE+fASE+vILZdVDquhehRE5UQowYaL6vqpd7YuFuVtaAxhzApqb7LulPyZHYsoV 4xKyUN+WootP9skr3gFpI1DlMSGEnBSgGSWRquMppEwIWkOBQg6fN3ePcGcbggMDhZ4y 6ruXuHuZFQhPNx2PPkelunKlZMqzRBtMVZtTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:33:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_rg0YD.A.qEG.xkXSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > Just a suggestion for anyone out there: Gmail works brilliantly with this > list (and other lists).=C2=A0 Gmail organizes e-mails into conversation > threads.=C2=A0For example,=C2=A0if there=C2=A0are 500 replies to a thread= called "The EDP > and the Looperlative and me" instead of getting 500 separate e-mails > floating in your inbox, Gmail will organize those e-mails into one > "conversation thread" and put a "500" next to it.=C2=A0 It's super=C2=A0s= lick! Yes, and even though not immediately displayed in Gmail, each email may contain the full history of previous posts in the thread - something very useful for any digest-ist and non gmail-ist that might pop into just one email (from a search engine or whatever). Gmail saves me hours of time for offline fun every day!!! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 15:54:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0D18183476; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=js1SE50luzmYSH9MYISYL6FCUKR2TTlEUy3pxkVwvjk=; b=DixLYKmbU4Twdg2jhSbQ+/pv+/yjTI8OFXUlkjzQOE5GFoZqAX5XxH1T5umtxW75Jj Ggg+1mnvEFwzOvIS/nbVlCQhHoKqpW8yFeRUPFSLX56JmHbqVCgxP1uT0ur2PgLEGWIL Numh8Rl9DN1q4L/tawvkb6b/HIoTNMx2SD+Eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ARvsZizqmIp7au2ir451bm4rURod2amxddPsi9abRgWFdGbFXrgeT9zSCbydIaX2l/ 8/8tyZWaAoDJT2T7G9A4/VmGRKN4J0+XEMIKkZyGfM27W4QeAHvo7KFKu/tiRbwh7eNC 8LOdiadSQy5HQEJEQI1b4Ly/7CCg1GlElbNow= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:53:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4f11a67c8049b4ea7e6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:54:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4f11a67c8049b4ea7e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D you cant make such a rule, I've tried but no success yet. 2011/2/2 Per Boysen > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > > Just a suggestion for anyone out there: Gmail works brilliantly with this > > list (and other lists). Gmail organizes e-mails into conversation > > threads. For example, if there are 500 replies to a thread called "The > EDP > > and the Looperlative and me" instead of getting 500 separate e-mails > > floating in your inbox, Gmail will organize those e-mails into one > > "conversation thread" and put a "500" next to it. It's super slick! > > > Yes, and even though not immediately displayed in Gmail, each email > may contain the full history of previous posts in the thread - > something very useful for any digest-ist and non gmail-ist that might > pop into just one email (from a search engine or whatever). Gmail > saves me hours of time for offline fun every day!!! :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a4f11a67c8049b4ea7e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing I havent figured out in Gmail ->

how to filter all mail= from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D

you cant make such a rule, = I've tried but no success yet.

2011/2= /2 Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a suggestion for anyone out there: Gmail works brilliantly with t= his
> list (and other lists).=A0 Gmail organizes e-mails into conversation > threads.=A0For example,=A0if there=A0are 500 replies to a thread calle= d "The EDP
> and the Looperlative and me" instead of getting 500 separate e-ma= ils
> floating in your inbox, Gmail will organize those e-mails into one
> "conversation thread" and put a "500" next to it.= =A0 It's super=A0slick!


Yes, and even though not immediately displayed in Gmail, each email may contain the full history of previous posts in the thread -
something very useful for any digest-ist and non gmail-ist that might
pop into just one email (from a search engine or whatever). Gmail
saves me hours of time for offline fun every day!!! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a4f11a67c8049b4ea7e6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:01:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9AA2183466; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5hHsUgBdTcsdEqFoaUWNT7kRWdyfI/CDgT9D4XZ6mjg=; b=MJFty78qRjuta9aItAWG+q25xgBj1v9L8tL5lbYFrM3e1KUixqSTHnnfLLMhN5wPeX WtjF+mMgeI6oqZ4Pu82O5emUB/hdcqA6o8qqY47ef9sG8gmZH2wc19iPLVbSrjEPSWvg P0bwUyb32jTwl6EFebJ1unf5Uhy8iExFvwli4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=j+MadvxAOSwAdJ1Eu07AoomDuAG6cBHbdf08uwbO8Z3GZ//MVqHOtwLxQX5QZ4R0Iv 6exzj6rPt/JynH7HmeI2PwrW0pDcsqBdzswILxr4ixSwYRAcVMT572H20edvFKZ76e8Z V/O+MDzEwGBae6xwu/wzg1h5ZUj5yd3EhksZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:01:02 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tf-KhmOwlbYmWaa-HQ5Kn784q6A Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:01:03 +0000 (UTC) in the toolbar, try 'More Actions' and then 'Filter Messages Like These'. os. On 2 February 2011 15:53, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> > > how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D > > you cant make such a rule, I've tried but no success yet. > > 2011/2/2 Per Boysen >> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM, ^|>^m wrote= : >> > Just a suggestion for anyone out there: Gmail works brilliantly with >> > this >> > list (and other lists).=A0 Gmail organizes e-mails into conversation >> > threads.=A0For example,=A0if there=A0are 500 replies to a thread calle= d "The >> > EDP >> > and the Looperlative and me" instead of getting 500 separate e-mails >> > floating in your inbox, Gmail will organize those e-mails into one >> > "conversation thread" and put a "500" next to it.=A0 It's super=A0slic= k! >> >> >> Yes, and even though not immediately displayed in Gmail, each email >> may contain the full history of previous posts in the thread - >> something very useful for any digest-ist and non gmail-ist that might >> pop into just one email (from a search engine or whatever). Gmail >> saves me hours of time for offline fun every day!!! :-) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:03:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 176C918347C; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bvrJpt25vuutX/xl7xFArdubhQGVdc0nSCpZK5FDAmA=; b=qqbMzNJXvAXUT8uhnmROTPkdz2MITD77p7FFvZuFUTn5SiygF22mkrFc4aF+wjN3hY E/5BXNtabRh+8hyS2bL1tK+ZSoqohnPlUuibsP6JA1WniQ8lDdCZphzLPj8gq69cvqVr wg8xt6H3DqRvJfR+CWdJTUXUmbdFp1hZ8Frn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=viLGvvW28BBCX2hB2XrTcGP2+bAgvxFyYDnd6sJJ/uB1CYPiBZfbn/2CoJWNInoPBm 39hAs9Bv5ffF3U2Cd7Ou2PCwM/3AhHIj8Wc9C+vWVFMpW+Cr2mrkBQAzBQ6kDj7s58Cz WUD4jgxNZNsPbaiooL5qPM7SAQi7+PLXbhBaI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:03:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-I9OJ.A.bjH.3AYSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:03:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> > > how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First create a label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a filter for it ("Filters" menu). You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using: Matches: to:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) Do this: Apply label "LD" Best wishes Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:07:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F22B183484; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YICnG49UijFRbpLvJ7pxmNsL9P5X7qHMDCInwPE4wQA=; b=ZKDSDgSjzO4O6N8TrvGpbk2n8ectt7jjGSfvyyC9Vb0ar37vXHIefFpE4e7xbZW9Fj pa5z3atu4qJl2Uj5U1G/p24F5Q4h+uhqfbKmFrEG3WEZRt+1L91MwDGCnhYDWYAVdDVW EvbAQVPmPGYqeFdQdnQC0YgWrnfDrJOV+AAXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NF34hv9kbLuwnk0yMJrGJwWmQFjI4KuqKwlDodTK3afWwm7BpRITDTTnXALtHqRNUQ 5XwCyISewkmEDS3yTkfu2k8q54Lo0o0ObHbL+Jtc25UXRcAtZJwj4yCKgJ1msgtC2V3s iiDY88h4tW4m4PFLaqLC1nquxK9H3ke/+9lno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:07:42 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6P4O5WD3Hd2AI9U4h1ny-4StyVU Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:07:42 +0000 (UTC) You might also want to Do this: Archive it (skip the inbox) os. On 2 February 2011 16:03, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> >> >> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D > > Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First create a > label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a filter for it > ("Filters" menu). > > You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using: > > Matches: to:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) > Do this: Apply label "LD" > > Best wishes > Per > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:11:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457CA18347C; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uwd9wvsI3h4ulUOYZH1ex+3PZW7Ak2QViSQeAdNVUrg=; b=rhK55KjvjqmQKzWxNVw07wIrxBAjNywg7p2yN6mdGe46+GdntpYyVjoNWSPdcwoSN5 9ag3spJ8ZOzq2Rlhf+4wWMEP+5ibfvSpwIt5sezwR1AOc0Rk5Ta3o0kUoX18D1WPBQx8 NOExZEYtktrVPKjb6so0SuM0RKABunNu+FYl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ua+2JS3TeRQsOwgv3w3Vt0nbOt9vaeO+r/Kj03/oiZBBPqswmKFDVQYgHP5xHJZ4kd 7mrLQ0bBJxAFvzOfNvPyHBu1hV8BNKdWehGtpQDjHdXh2/Z0ph2Q4ZOyx6j3rTFE+ft6 IsxCRW8+qWnT6/GihIUpydpBcMsKnXIBjT564= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:10:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YYBUgrbLBUQnLSKyjIgTzHgWuCM Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a5f38168b049b4ee59e Resent-Message-ID: <9bg9fC.A.IW.ZIYSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:11:06 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a5f38168b049b4ee59e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Or my fave thing about Gmail... labels... I label everything, and in a particularly busy week, my inbox is all bright and cheery.. here look! https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/rcug3/gmail-inbox-1-markfrancombe-gmail.com Mark On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Os wrote: > You might also want to > > Do this: Archive it (skip the inbox) > > > os. > > > On 2 February 2011 16:03, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > >> One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> > >> > >> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D > > > > Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First create a > > label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a filter for it > > ("Filters" menu). > > > > You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using: > > > > Matches: to:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) > > Do this: Apply label "LD" > > > > Best wishes > > Per > > > > > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a5f38168b049b4ee59e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or my fave thing about Gmail... labels... I label everything, and in a part= icularly busy week, my inbox is all bright and cheery.. here look!

<= a href=3D"https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/rcug3/gmail-inbox-1-markfrancomb= e-gmail.com">https://skitch.com/markfrancombe/rcug3/gmail-inbox-1-markfranc= ombe-gmail.com

Mark




On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 = at 5:07 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
You might also want to

Do this: Archive it (skip the inbox)


os.


On 2 February 2011 16:03, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> One thing I havent figured out in Gmail ->
>>
>> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D
>
> Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First= create a
> label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set u= p a filter for it
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> Matches: to:(Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com)
> Do this: Apply label "LD"
>
> Best wishes
> Per
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--20cf30549a5f38168b049b4ee59e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:26:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EF96183494; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3fBwlmBAPRBIly2kt67aonHmQozQxeE7s0ERFALgjDQ=; b=XxNXDmCPiDO7/c6BdSjQrb27VdlIQz5FjajpHG0PLQtPBzSO/lHiwe9FuQYzNaF3BS /rQzEsda9lYBo3MTSA19X4GAAJ7Gd8o1wL8fgmchhNJgZbyuqAMUO+Nmt+cyIdvjPeUj nqEJR09GkhJjz53w2TwYqZ2rtsi+wj0ZhOxGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Cqd9J+VyvyBU89p0erD0yLZyTeruDa0WNK6H7Evm9iB/ngFko+NEl2Z8XHR42p8UoH lUQLsEtTcFNWV8g2KZyW3sWe0tPdexesQPoBJeGE0afcdwzBJ8x59oeaxJEOCbrj9E1A 6XTfigWLcQhjeayydxEb3hKLNC86XXIl0lSZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:26:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Labeling is useful - but I'm finding many other Gmail services too incredibly helpful! Especially since all my work is freelance based with dozens of clients, deadlines to match and field activities to prepare in time. The command center is the Task List where I often use the automatic linking to "related email" and and reminder email to myself as a deadline is about to come up. For each job I type down short notes about the project, stuff that would be just impossible to remember (thanks to Google I often know better than all those editors in chief's out there what they actually did order from me). Then I use the Calendar a lot - and I set my Mac's iCal to subscribe to the Coogle Calender, meaning whatever I post into a private or public Google calendar will also show up on my computers and iPhone's local calendars. A particular Google Calendar's RSS stream subscription can also be used at a web site to display tour dates or similar as part of a nice wordpress design. For documents I work on together with colleges I use the Google Documents function; it has proven a good way to work out texts when applying for grants targeting international music touring collaborations. Bottom line is I can't recommend Google too much. Yes, the company is close to omni potent these days but if they should turn evil you could just switch and use something else. Per On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> >> >> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D > > Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First create a > label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a filter for it > ("Filters" menu). > > You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using: > > Matches: to:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) > Do this: Apply label "LD" > > Best wishes > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:39:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 145CE183490; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=XWLFYU9tvxyB8qId40bO4nQVy2vhEBfhNpaMC+lvTLI=; b=bxxGlwLGMi8G0t8qogPEXXsQL1K0TsrHafVaM+brp3jP6SQCSmYGmoOQzy5Odl6Vix RbrHfqUb5IRpGATBgh/Jlqy8RVY3ls9QYd04Z3ekxETvahz2qb/kygFM2oZVtj1vQAk/ v2bdvFPUok1dtX12jCTNALExzStFG58Sb2RsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ug6HwS7claoCsnrEgXxldF0pNT1l2oohkYUPmKpssSZIEAlvahEtZLX4PEeusAK+hS dkyYcNwKj+wct7wi95m1dL4TuW6hXpc+fTgEbfpAGPX4iJ5R6ixQE33vHXY0AoeiFO9y mRnIPfkxvR48SdgKNVNasmzV+FfYQ75S64C2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:39:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oBI8g80hsKtomLiwcmein_DKuEg Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e327988a049b4f4cac Resent-Message-ID: <8eIqyC.A.d-B.WjYSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:39:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e327988a049b4f4cac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> but then I cut it all.. Couldnt agree more, I have done all that too.. maybe I can beat it? I have 3 calendars.. 1 work one that my project manager make for me, I have my own personal one (dentist wedding aniversarys etc) My wifes..(yoga night, etc) All of them are origanally Gmail calendars, but the all synch to iCal on the mac, and more importantly... They all get sent to MY toDo list program on the iPhone that is called... EPIC WIN!! http://www.rexbox.co.uk/epicwin/ Every time I do a thing, I earn XP, jewels, weapons, and ammo.. somehow it make life like a game... Well it is anyway, but this way I get points! Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e327988a049b4f4cac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">>> but then I cut it all..

Couldnt a= gree more, I have done all that too.. maybe I can beat it?

I have 3 calendars.. 1 work one that my project manager make for me, I = have my own personal one (dentist wedding aniversarys etc) My wifes..(yoga = night, etc) All of them are origanally Gmail calendars, but the all synch t= o iCal on the mac, and more importantly... They all get sent to MY toDo lis= t program on the iPhone that is called...

EPIC WIN!!

http://= www.rexbox.co.uk/epicwin/

Every time I do a thing, I earn XP, je= wels, weapons, and ammo.. somehow it make life like a game...
Well it i= s anyway, but this way I get points!

Mark


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--20cf305497e327988a049b4f4cac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 16:56:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23FCA18347B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ysSwwSbqoNsA+Gh71Hl1eTR/oei5tbbv7uobh01f9yg=; b=e6/BS/RatEht7dIsAaHLT/J40/sp8CIk906XO9oC8JfEBLU+mX6mlmUREg9SQrKhAe JDaaxWXmYJZm7JuzUb2AOkHFjzQDRqJMmyVLONJ3ZouNNDlvImib+zFu25hyu8hhT9bb bMWAxXlah53pMfoxq5CffdCR0e/VgWPe7xSZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HAqpu26XCGD3C4p0VWa7EJgUqBn8llkIBwRxhtWx8wRM6lATtQ57Z0eGovycJRdBJH HK4UqGLvEHeWN3DjHuAaJK8WVzDu8LHg88Qb1fYCCg5hvQ8az5ktvOZGvX3QtYtQhD6H KQrB/mLew0mnHWNcxV61Bj6EhG/UAqDf/Lo4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) The best thing about Gmail is multiple inboxes. You can automatically label you looping delights as they come in and have them skip your main inbox, but instead show up in one of your multuple inboxes... it's hard to explain without showing. Have a look here to get organized: http://goo.gl/9aWwJ Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 17:08:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9B0F183485; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 964659.21335.bm@omp1044.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296666533; bh=+59n7S5nqbwDAVjBrzZ0alf2EGhF/4HbXMzsUHraj7Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=myk967r2OvqEKEwDX6Xe9lXROQaLQwEpdaydT3eu160obP/KgTdVPGwyVBy1N/zTLR/zVyVgcOqVprBrtVtNbLKqbPeEfAISaB0uOU33fRtlth1w+kYSRbf3q4dqXuHR74IVg1Wtz0nm1RX+RF8uWavY2syS15gZxu7lVNMBcRs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I7qE9BlJOQ38Uhn5I0PUBTPLnEkiwLomeJ28ousYnVyatnA+QdWrewb5I9cXAHZeeag3CHQPhmNK82M0THEPdpI0xIm3ju1KQNU/CwylSJZT2OW+PSR/bO2V0cbp8v8MUzwZ3tBduioZD+DicLxAkEEFf//JDphfTGLRrMyBn7E=; Message-ID: <805909.85138.qm@web59707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I16prjcVM1kaDswEM_1HZ237FhWbtmMx3xGkSl.wMvQGlFb iLG0tWbWFJtqSrxOzZCdSbLm2q04lkJBKXvP90a6XKu7XXYQlP2MMCrrMWQ8 nUSBkpXG80Tr5PEeWchFsV4aXpEy6.vMKWqm.qkVIjXNO4_fH6jr5acbl5tk VwHJUhGrbXOi8ihfo8jw1IX_lpr78rGYa4sTuIMK_P8lI5rGXN9wvEWs2ZfR acRZ8lOWoJv3N3nikpghX29JLJ3MS5B.h4ZO_ZwYX7W3z0m8MWNfjf71KT7j vw5b5iAfd9BjFfL8gwtVbYgdakAHuvtp1E1Qxb.hkvaGkVl5b6w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:08:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-318849970-1296666533=:85138" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:08:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-318849970-1296666533=:85138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gmail is definitely religion. If you buy into the label thing and don't mi= nd =0Aforming Google searches for everything, it works great!=0A=0A=0AOn th= e other hand, if you work like I do and you just want to file away messages= =0Aonce you've dealt with them without having them pop back into your inbo= x when =0Asomeone replies to the thread, well, it can be a bit frustrating.= ..=0A=0ARegards,=0ADoug=0A=0A=0A --0-318849970-1296666533=:85138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gmail is definitely religion. =A0If you buy into= the label thing and don't mind forming Google searches for everything, it = works great!

On the other hand, if you work li= ke I do and you just want to file away messages once you've dealt with them= without having them pop back into your inbox when someone replies to the t= hread, well, it can be a bit frustrating...

Regard= s,
Doug
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=0A= =0A --0-318849970-1296666533=:85138-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 18:58:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D2FA183487; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tzI/VVhgPqB5gLabZJNn8mfuFM+EEW38oB2EGfej35M=; b=WdGG9LH58cs3IYicmwbqAMnZMoQtnWWhT2u/V2SPYm7AOEKwyH/ciPDUdVBy4dbZIl EpaGxWUalOC0KrR0deSKmEEqQ5VOv8FViwW5sOKsmOIamedpX9molXWzKI3k12FnRiT1 7W7f/Q30O+r1+UVfFhtO/VceqXRxblMykoJ3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uF/Qqddo2rplYJ3l08TDqvNnjg8VO2dbQtuW2T2oY+WaASOTVaQOLRum0RCz0imSe/ gGH5+SDUkkB7Gyiiow5NwSzY59jqQnDAN1O3lvowd26Va/m5zgfroA/ZFQ8kK1JEVMiG IsBZYyQWLNb3igy02g92CpsphW/RkE4WZhRp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <805909.85138.qm@web59707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> <805909.85138.qm@web59707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:58:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a8cbdad351049b513b5d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:58:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a8cbdad351049b513b5d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And if you dont mind the ad that show in the right that find words from your messages= so your every mail gets scanned... :-D http://www.google-watch.org/ On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Doug Wellington wrote: > Gmail is definitely religion. If you buy into the label thing and don't > mind forming Google searches for everything, it works great! > > On the other hand, if you work like I do and you just want to file away > messages once you've dealt with them without having them pop back into your > inbox when someone replies to the thread, well, it can be a bit > frustrating... > > Regards, > Doug > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a8cbdad351049b513b5d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And if you dont mind the ad that show in the right that find words from you= r messages=3D
so your every mail gets scanned... :-D

http://www.google-watch.org/

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Doug Wellington <dougwellington@yahoo.com> wrote:
Gmail is definitely religion. =A0If you buy into = the label thing and don't mind forming Google searches for everything, = it works great!

On the other hand, if you work= like I do and you just want to file away messages once you've dealt wi= th them without having them pop back into your inbox when someone replies t= o the thread, well, it can be a bit frustrating...

Regards,
Doug




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http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a8cbdad351049b513b5d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 19:04:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4041183489; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fF7Vsqhg1SA73LEJ/1gPkI0xaZzyftPUgvPpjZX8t2M=; b=mu5Pv9kMfIoo7WdZsC2g49VsLv7DSuhriXYfT0pob6/aNlUJ6wTdp8Ii1i4Kakxspw G+gYj3PkbywQbrnvr9YRp5Yrx6+qrWeeoJzbnZgrlHGkoHi2QpJH5i7MDja4ejGaIGeF HQAgRv/RtJ+P2A+NwwUcqwEDAKC7naDDNgSlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AkWpWaJyo1+QhUpb0691ljz0G24zyRHR3ZOo2wR212zy7LhYhtkwJExeorng0wAmIA 4G8Pc8xmbU/QLrdHYJFzxOB48HXZlLiD0fKHAYQ6bIAwbUjrEugFrd6YnF3+Xz4I1Ol3 O3npECbcsVz9HD/07sr3WteXStev4zIywjQr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:04:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b39c54499b049b5152be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 19:04:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151747b39c54499b049b5152be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matches: from:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) to:(my e-mail) Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "LOOPPAAJAT" I'm having this kind of filter right now. Doesnt work, messages stay in the inbox. I have folder called "LOOPPAAJAT" On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > One thing I havent figured out in Gmail -> > > > > how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D > > Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First create a > label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a filter for it > ("Filters" menu). > > You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using: > > Matches: to:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) > Do this: Apply label "LD" > > Best wishes > Per > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --00151747b39c54499b049b5152be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matches: from:(Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com) to:(my e-mail)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "LOOPPAAJAT"


I&#= 39;m having this kind of filter right now.
Doesnt work, messages stay in the inbox.
I have folder called "LOOP= PAAJAT"



On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 = at 6:03 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 2, 20= 11 at 4:53 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aik= uinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing I havent figured out in Gmail ->
>
> how to filter all mail from Loopers Delight to one folder! :-D

Such a directory function is called "Labels" in Gmail. First crea= te a
label called "LD" ("Settings" menu) and then set up a f= ilter for it
("Filters" menu).

You can decide on what to base filtering on. Over here I'm using:

Matches: to:(Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com)
Do this: Apply label "LD"

Best wishes
Per




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Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--00151747b39c54499b049b5152be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 20:00:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAEAE183484; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cWr+utzpR+83IdjWKWKibqKcuuXd+c0B4A0ePqOu9e0=; b=Oil+hnALgHgJc3RrTzQVD+Rpr0FI/a9Zx801RiY4HIfhUmAhXG9KPk57/S7dOd3OHV qhNHYQo8jPEtFCzM3HLa772KuEII7mBpNLEOKicnLSFl82ZB1PWiaAGNO55LXV3/5ufy cbbe4rIa+IRZzhlvfMfTMU7Uz2/rNy94ikO0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZVP7yqDtZmNM7rvxXA3TwM6MnsHadhT81EuVupcJoCqFpl3kMVij2oMONt7svhLPSz wt3HFxcaGE66VS8nror7+h22F6rPWSJPpmHl7HIO0ktxzeS7nE9DS2SyuHbvBJSUX/PQ jLjafpLAhHGDuNgPqEA+lOAOBZpo0x6rVSdcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:00:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CINIHoqt6yLrVqu7Nd-a9UyuV1g Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b11dadd5b049b5219fc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:00:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b11dadd5b049b5219fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > I'm having this kind of filter right now. > Doesnt work, messages stay in the inbox. > I have folder called "LOOPPAAJAT" > Well blow me down with a feather, he=B4s right! The skip inbox command in a filter doesn't work! HA HA.. I never use it, I think it appearing in the inbox ensures that I can review if I want to read it or not. For a while I didnt want to read LD as I was too busy so I simply selected my label and hit delete all.. I could have archived all instead... but Im old skool... I use delete! In my experience, filters that filter mails into folders only ensures that = I never read them, and in the case of a mailing list I might as well unsub. Jeez... we have this fucking conversation every few months.. Im sick of people who dont use Gmail... get a fucking life loooozzzzers!!! Stay with the pulse dudes.. keep up or ship out..! And to those conspiracy big bruvver theorists... if you think the internet is a anarchic playground ful= l of sixties berkley students making politico cyber-zines, you are sadly mistaken... this is mainstream BIG BIZ, if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) close your eyes.. cos there aint nowhere in the world thats Spam Free... OH...! and to you LD NEWBies.. THIS IS IRONY OK??? So shut up and dont even think about replying to this asshole.. its a fucking JOKE OK??? OT...ish... Did you know that there is nowhere in Mexico that you cannot se= e the CocaCola sign? (again a pinch of salt here please) I have tested this..= . If you drive in Mexico, you see the Coke logo painted, yes painted everywhere... Its quite nice actually, to see a real painted advert (they just painted over the last one in Norway.. huge fuss, it was a 1920=B4s cigarette advert.. so cigarettes.. you know.. bad for you... culture.. fuck that.. anyway.. I digress) Well I asked about it, and apparently (myth probably) CocaCola will BUY YOU THE PAINT, if you paint their logo... lots of rural cottages need a lick of paint so people take them up on it at no cost to themselves... apart from a bit a bad sun burn I imagine.. Dunno if its true, but I was carefull to check.. "Wait.. where the coke sign?..(scans view) Ahh there it is over there" On motorway... there gos a coke sign... now wheres the next?.. almost cant see the previous one ... wait a moment.. here comes a new one... Christ.. what a ramble.. Ill shut up... anyone would think I was ON coke... of the south American variety... Mark --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b11dadd5b049b5219fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm having this kind of filter right now.
Doesnt work, messages stay in the inbox.
I have folder called "LOOP= PAAJAT"

Well blow me down with a feather, = he=B4s right! The skip inbox command in a filter doesn't work! HA HA.. =

I never use it, I think it appearing in the inbox ensures that I can re= view if I want to read it or not. For a while I didnt want to read LD as I = was too busy so I simply selected my label and hit delete all.. I could hav= e archived all instead... but Im old skool... I use delete!

In my experience, filters that filter mails into folders only ensures t= hat I never read them, and in the case of a mailing list I might as well un= sub.

Jeez... we have this fucking conversation every few months.. Im= sick of people who dont use Gmail... get a fucking life loooozzzzers!!! St= ay with the pulse dudes.. keep up or ship out..!=A0 And to those conspiracy= big bruvver theorists... if you think the internet is a anarchic playgroun= d full of sixties berkley students making politico cyber-zines, you are sad= ly mistaken... this is mainstream BIG BIZ, if you dont like looking at adve= rtising (I dont) close your eyes.. cos there aint nowhere in the world that= s Spam Free... OH...! and to you LD NEWBies.. THIS IS IRONY OK??? So shut u= p and dont even think about replying to this asshole.. its a fucking JOKE O= K???

OT...ish... Did you know that there is nowhere in Mexico that you canno= t see the CocaCola sign? (again a pinch of salt here please) I have tested = this... If you drive in Mexico, you see the Coke logo painted, yes painted = everywhere... Its quite nice actually, to see a real painted advert (they j= ust painted over the last one in Norway.. huge fuss, it was a 1920=B4s ciga= rette advert.. so cigarettes.. you know.. bad for you... culture.. fuck tha= t.. anyway.. I digress) Well I asked about it, and apparently (myth probabl= y) CocaCola=A0 will BUY YOU THE PAINT, if you paint their logo... lots of r= ural cottages need a lick of paint so people take them up on it at no cost = to themselves... apart from a bit a bad sun burn I imagine.. Dunno if its t= rue, but I was carefull to check..
"Wait.. where the coke sign?..(scans view) Ahh there it is over there&= quot; On motorway... there gos a coke sign... now wheres the next?.. almost= cant see the previous one ... wait a moment.. here comes a new one...
Christ.. what a ramble.. Ill shut up... anyone would think I was ON coke...= of the south American variety...


Mark


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mark francombe
www.m= arkfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549b11dadd5b049b5219fc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 20:04:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 225BE18348A; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8pTZY6NxKoHaF+boXaEXklOrgdpX/DiqR3XRtPYdtGw=; b=m7Mztx1oEIn5H/x/Lql2f/aCU8Oit/vYp5PdfWwFmCkePTENBgE/3CLQDXEh8fF4PB 5S91FWE383/5huQvkV6s1cDS+1zy35EoKginWJbjDvVVNpcAoxPl45gKTTfFZ8bf4iia u8vVMQttBUBDkNfPucyFttvre+IP8IkTsTddk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ELyg3supZ/a0VykyT3P6i/n5ILzMFGKZDMZaG9tz5LtZt1t9Fs7BzhofxuOA2pg8QD PyBjd/FEtIA0lsMTj7a6qGSE4SSwTfjHQE1ftBU2v+5eJE3prH6nirRFpR4ttCl1bH/m DfGsLXtjCZ23/uYXhcVXAAooyWaQxjz9fSMjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8DBED88A-E605-4322-924A-D9EC43D1CB89@baymoon.com> References: <8DBED88A-E605-4322-924A-D9EC43D1CB89@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:03:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Rick's percussion post To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043449e1783e0049b5227d3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:04:13 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043449e1783e0049b5227d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So... Bartender approaches Descartes to say, "another drink sir?" To which Descartes replies, "I think not", and vanishes in a puff of logic. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:16 PM, William Walker wro= te: > Luis said: > "should we egg this scientology guy for using a drum machine live and > > never let him into our loopers cult?" > > > I think this is an excellent idea:-) > I think we all think too much > I think, therefore I am, I think > Bill > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3043449e1783e0049b5227d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So...=A0

Bartender approaches Descartes to say, "an= other drink sir?" =A0To which Descartes replies, "I think not&quo= t;, and vanishes in a puff of logic.



On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:16 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = wrote:
Luis said:
"should we egg this scientology guy for= using a drum machine live and

never let him into our = loopers cult?"


I think this is an excellen= t idea:-)
=A0I think we all think too much
I think, the= refore I am, I think
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--20cf3043449e1783e0049b5227d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 20:34:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A295F18348D; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9IXDhgUzSKjIqkKfoydAM64mjeXP85+cbPn2vQ1Xp5M=; b=W8bbZ0W2/1iYBYWjuHHScD8LG4md6V8o8PAWdiDIBdRXTwlKBtzjy0qeJUmdRYOePy X9uxA6P/wUIzPVpqfMWqIAl2OQACLmmGSFIvMcLxMcjCpKZt+Ina+Thi1511uXptYTwi +xqj5DKd531AWFLBY8KAR4IuT91TJrP13qkqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tD/M1UO8jfLWveN9BmkaoqAJiCpUSUPBmqCcHRYpZX7/rAnVe8pmrvZt/YIQ+mwrxf EWsRpNa9KMEFnUs+m3P8/HRM1eTYDo7u8wSQBtFGtyuy5R4nLVblwBe91OMYfi89IiY3 yy2R46Sy422cn5KpGqxWS7MIqLgM2KR5tXJlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:34:55 +0000 (UTC) >if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) close your eyes.. cos there aint nowhere in the world >thats Spam Free... Use Chrome or firefox and install the better gmail extension to get rid of the ads and add fonctionality and customization to gmail (or minimalist gmail, also quite good). Spam free zone right here man. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 20:50:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86172183494; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vnTkST2tTBSq0gY7meMy18qHFYc0pZLfRIUgNrjJyWQ=; b=s3odrzAMfeZWfHKPI2zY6Y9Z+aVmw0i6p/SubX5ciARK0EGffA2zNWfobhdBkc/y3N i+vS8IUWHw1i0Tsjss9dafSuc+usX57lqiaL+6493Pdf4p8C0eSNUUD9WwonHxbsPmLJ Mw+wXwtak9gIyoZaQdwE0eG2zmOcpo5AdpuC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=A/E/VAIvfGAtk1+1ZrfWr+cXR2SG3wvHHo6amY4dadEXgjFnun5sPUqv9lgb1jBq4d AUppPqAi/1zgxhts42SWV9FH1+fAityFlUC/VUBdtKEDEWELo8UBrg9Ubr0UedwfmXFG 2fAiiB60Lzu5ec9cAmYPUmtt/MRnjyWueUg6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:50:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3a794YVFrvD0zpQdqslGx7eztiw Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15f3183c0049b52cc30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:50:23 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15f3183c0049b52cc30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah.. I KNOW...!! That was kinda my point... Im sat in my own house right now, and from where I am sat I can see, what I consider to be, 10 ads.. NOT on my computer.. Everything has a logo mate, that advertising... LEARN not to notice... is my motto... Mark Adverts currently playing within my field of view. Mac, M-Audio, Native Instrumensts, Korg, Gibson, Waitrose, Behringer, Akai, Boss, Roland, Midiman, Zoom, Future Retro, Alesis, Ikea, Faim, ScanVan, Exibel, Devi Ever, Stanton, Sony, Ibanez, LemSip. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > >if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) close your eyes.. cos > there aint nowhere in the world >thats Spam Free... > > Use Chrome or firefox and install the better gmail extension to get > rid of the ads and add fonctionality and customization to gmail (or > minimalist gmail, also quite good). > > Spam free zone right here man. > > Sylvain > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15f3183c0049b52cc30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah.. I KNOW...!!
That was kinda my point...
Im sat in my own house= right now, and from where I am sat I can see, what I consider to be, 10 ad= s.. NOT on my computer.. Everything has a logo mate, that advertising...
LEARN not to notice... is my motto...

Mark

Adverts curren= tly playing within my field of view.
Mac, M-Audio, Native Instrumensts, = Korg, Gibson, Waitrose, Behringer, Akai, Boss, Roland, Midiman, Zoom, Futur= e Retro, Alesis, Ikea, Faim, ScanVan, Exibel, Devi Ever, Stanton, Sony, Iba= nez, LemSip.




On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, = Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
>if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) clos= e your eyes.. cos there aint nowhere in the world >thats Spam Free...
Use Chrome or firefox and install the better gmail extension to get rid of the ads and add fonctionality and customization to gmail (or
minimalist gmail, also quite good).

Spam free zone right here man.

Sylvain




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--20cf3054a15f3183c0049b52cc30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 20:57:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4B5418347F; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 419010.6729.bm@omp1015.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296680223; bh=7ScZBXE8iCEXB+BW+VmI096Lo6gudUfJo+UdpqnmRxk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HbVkP7QCPSc5EnyGyY9MQS/OoVhxCHz5Ywceejd24X3kRo3cBcWzoNrMhyaMtRFi3BpmURt+C1mzPVtO8hA0ZD1Bl9UEmiVHBlt0Z76y1Nv9FoDdylZPGdNQHe1xYfM9BZkxYCUX2K0QIh4ZQSlJOHxtOY5WLywHqHJqFABbEho= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2UnCCfb8J8G1uCh7OVFx4FnJQRttzKmLuNLMXxnZKmUj22WA0bGqiBlTCLoF1X2n+NonF0GLP4NZF/3j6nDq/qL3zkAVb8R8DRwswHMNvCR+USx4D16D9VI9uWMeAdjHzGWEAYM16aOBPE98Mpx1BonPTbnlZ6BsokMj7OQaiEM=; Message-ID: <299262.34360.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SuifLfkVM1nO4sx8TjMhMjDVLvqUshYvfTT6eOZ50tCjHR4 fFPSpQtd4aAY8c49PN00TpEifdoJdyF6wrTVdB88RFLnE8LkXO91N3xRwwN8 LqNZLkR8tYYPpM_fmD6x__DA84ARd0A3TR3knRF6E7Np6Ra2pIlJs8yApHkj zwcR5rbyWHyhfAv_l0q83JfoTKJ2ApPfl5djJM2UNJMmxODNP6wFs7QiMx0p 4H0.WLp.56vmupcUQt07J4ESguWbZuG9ZCjhYbSppKHJ7Ya8xxBjM00C25tV vtrR_bb_8qfmqExac8Qr0LIzNAPtCd.VuvWnnIYn0QiLPjt7acQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:57:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Gmail? Me thinks not. WAS: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1977400287-1296680223=:34360" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1977400287-1296680223=:34360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark writes:=0A> Jeez... we have this fucking conversation every few months= .. Im sick of people =0A>who dont use Gmail... get a fucking life loooozzzz= ers!!! Stay with the pulse =0A>dudes.. keep up or ship out..!=0A=0A[Continu= ing the attitude] Man, email is so 1990's! Get a life and start using =0A= a forum where you can upload tracks, patches and pictures, and you never ha= ve to =0Aworry about out-of-office messages or requests for unsubscription!= Better =0Aarchives, better search, available from any web browser...what'= s not to like?=0A=0AROFL!=0A=0ADoug=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1977400287-1296680223=:34360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark writes:
> Jeez... we have this fuckin= g conversation every few months.. Im sick of people who dont use Gmail... g= et a fucking life loooozzzzers!!! Stay with the pulse dudes.. keep up or sh= ip out..!

[Continuing the attitude] =A0Man, em= ail is so 1990's! =A0Get a life and start using a forum where you can uploa= d tracks, patches and pictures, and you never have to worry about out-of-of= fice messages or requests for unsubscription! =A0Better archives, better se= arch, available from any web browser...what's not to like?

ROFL!

= Doug
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=0A=0A=0A

=0A=0A --0-1977400287-1296680223=:34360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:01:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8548183494; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9DOzS6j21/npt0F3t7CZXA8/Eegekw66AHWWti/5lls=; b=w0FszUuJ6hjDLpI9PWpVcRbjLMeOfDFC81q5iKuxZLPneP+8FpHllBpkSkXnPvSydT 7qOa/xOlhUGiV0pEjSyXSnwV6GyJDpalDX3tlsJN5g9hB8j+9N1yxYxfDOnpl0RLUp/U 5xArTkZkma4aSbJLs0RjEvspSCC4c+PJIpNJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FglFGkmZbxuP/OYfv6YJ6P5UI6Sc2mijSU2E2BgH3xN53qi3DFrjEHidvGVCfcitNr V3mQMzV+AjzJhqP+eDX2rwRWaiX0otWHXr96rSgpSHrSmsVbltSTd6embq7zRhSSF9nL LOOHDlrseg72/y8S+VRbSlc6qc+CvePdbTJ7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549e5374d330049b52f52f Resent-Message-ID: <7TjaE.A.0CH.FZcSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:01:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549e5374d330049b52f52f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AdBlockPlus for Firefox. No adverts for me! :) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Yeah.. I KNOW...!! > That was kinda my point... > Im sat in my own house right now, and from where I am sat I can see, what I > consider to be, 10 ads.. NOT on my computer.. Everything has a logo mate, > that advertising... > > LEARN not to notice... is my motto... > > Mark > > Adverts currently playing within my field of view. > Mac, M-Audio, Native Instrumensts, Korg, Gibson, Waitrose, Behringer, Akai, > Boss, Roland, Midiman, Zoom, Future Retro, Alesis, Ikea, Faim, ScanVan, > Exibel, Devi Ever, Stanton, Sony, Ibanez, LemSip. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Sylvain Poitras < > sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) close your eyes.. cos >> there aint nowhere in the world >thats Spam Free... >> >> Use Chrome or firefox and install the better gmail extension to get >> rid of the ads and add fonctionality and customization to gmail (or >> minimalist gmail, also quite good). >> >> Spam free zone right here man. >> >> Sylvain >> >> > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- -==-=-=- Tony --20cf30549e5374d330049b52f52f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AdBlockPlus for Firefox.=A0 No adverts for me! :)

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM, mark francombe &= lt;mark@markfrancombe.com>= wrote:
Yeah.. I KNOW...!!
That was kinda my poi= nt...
Im sat in my own house right now, and from where I am sat I can s= ee, what I consider to be, 10 ads.. NOT on my computer.. Everything has a l= ogo mate, that advertising...

LEARN not to notice... is my motto...

Mark

Adverts curren= tly playing within my field of view.
Mac, M-Audio, Native Instrumensts, = Korg, Gibson, Waitrose, Behringer, Akai, Boss, Roland, Midiman, Zoom, Futur= e Retro, Alesis, Ikea, Faim, ScanVan, Exibel, Devi Ever, Stanton, Sony, Iba= nez, LemSip.





On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM, = Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:=
>if you dont like looking at advertising (I dont) close your eyes..= cos there aint nowhere in the world >thats Spam Free...

Use Chrome or firefox and install the better gmail extension to get rid of the ads and add fonctionality and customization to gmail (or
minimalist gmail, also quite good).

Spam free zone right here man.

Sylvain







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--20cf30549e5374d330049b52f52f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:03:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1880F183496; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mIo/7ki6mn/ukXPqEyWHHbov+M4bZMuf81qmsn0vy/A=; b=ZKkfR0ndtWxVSZVFvnzztJaFXvsGKecX9KfxcW0qTy3WBrTZIBIpo190MEnY6itu+C OPaKI2sX2i8nKRW6CAMk0s80FM3efJyY6k9bDk7By4mKunQnKyhUHVN0J2Z2ZYe2SJUZ hBIf2Bwv3D1EXEsC97vk5Vqyq7XZZfuVgD6GA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=wkMUpMLehl9YCdbZk3sKTI1h/Z/GkZSRy+0HaZjxKXeAm9l4gsAOyG6Z3lK3g61L6J yBLYDg79TkXleb7RrHLvZ+uMp2uTgS+lN7nRPDTmw77ogxt+v2Vzr0JTcq/rjAHIbIn/ qIC+jB6zdugLZgeswzpScc8CE2Om+KDPdDjQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:03:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fvDmuuHyO2oYdd4A5zg3sDDA3cg Message-ID: Subject: Mobius Script help please? To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc313eb6f049b52fb93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:03:29 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc313eb6f049b52fb93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I could put this on the Mobius forii but we already talked about that right? I need this: An Auto Panning script. Surly thats been done right? A pan that lasts 4 bars. Or 100 times a bar (whats the limit?.. I want the limit please!!) Then a refinement... I want that script to have an X factor. that I can dial in via a pedal. So I want to be able to set a speed via the script, but to alter the speed via a pedal. This is so I can, with ONE script set panning speeds for all tracks, and then modulate that speed globally. (trk 1=1pan per bar : trk 2= 2x per bar : trk 3= 4x per bar etc). Now a different issue, but one that will be thrown up cos of this idea. I alrady hav my 2 FCB1010 pedals assigned to track volume and secondary feedback. But.. for this moment, while I DO this trick (or a speed fucking trick or a pitch wobbling trick) I want the pedal to NOT do volume and fedback but this thing... Is there anyway to do that? Do I have to use a different set-up or something... I havent really looked at that usage yet... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549dc313eb6f049b52fb93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could put this on the Mobius forii but we already talked about that right= ?

I need this:
An Auto Panning script. Surly thats been done rig= ht? A pan that lasts 4 bars. Or 100 times a bar (whats the limit?.. I want = the limit please!!)

Then a refinement... I want that script to have an X factor. that I can= dial in via a pedal. So I want to be able to set a speed via the script, b= ut to alter the speed via a pedal.
This is so I can, with ONE script set= panning speeds for all tracks, and then modulate that speed globally. (trk= 1=3D1pan per bar : trk 2=3D 2x per bar : trk 3=3D 4x per bar etc).

Now a different issue, but one that will be thrown up cos of this idea.= I alrady hav my 2 FCB1010 pedals assigned to track volume and secondary fe= edback. But.. for this moment, while I DO this trick (or a speed fucking tr= ick or a pitch wobbling trick) I want the pedal to NOT do volume and fedbac= k but this thing... Is there anyway to do that? Do I have to use a differen= t set-up or something... I havent really looked at that usage yet...

Mark



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--20cf30549dc313eb6f049b52fb93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:05:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EA4183499; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a+HJlBfzu7Mqdp1RSBYbK5eY3yLhN/0/JHjO8AtPTKw=; b=RoOmHLLNp319mlJg95jq8Y31pUAVeXY9vu3oPAOoE4cyUlMH+qpw7Rg6ygjIMLCmaZ Ylf3aHlb5CtC59uzKTIM6tPaRRM4LNuAcEDJ40f2Vj4AZGJyne236U9IOXMyWoBpDINZ 6OBEo/vgnWnpWTpYlbm+hJ4TCaHh5EXzAUMNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=s0si2oJ2pjNQgVbdmPvH89X9jswMtnjW6JKC8cpvya3zbDhlT/ph35y7wcxz19xxnM LwKNvBe+MPMMuAektnMz6eiU+J5DSjh6aqAS7fm57qSachx0l670zBkISKL9xzae2MIG 7+2bogTzqfQKnZ3KmR+HNSplZwwm9j9x1fiRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <299262.34360.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> <299262.34360.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:04:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AJelrxiSdM40x5cbkbNfIcZNGVQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gmail? Me thinks not. WAS: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b11754248049b530019 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b11754248049b530019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yo DUUUUUDE.. Forums are Just Sooooo Last Century!!! Lets shut down Loosers Delight and make it a hashtag!! On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Doug Wellington wrote: > Mark writes: > > Jeez... we have this fucking conversation every few months.. Im sick of > people who dont use Gmail... get a fucking life loooozzzzers!!! Stay with > the pulse dudes.. keep up or ship out..! > > [Continuing the attitude] Man, email is so 1990's! Get a life and start > using a forum where you can upload tracks, patches and pictures, and you > never have to worry about out-of-office messages or requests for > unsubscription! Better archives, better search, available from any web > browser...what's not to like? > > ROFL! > > Doug > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b11754248049b530019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo DUUUUUDE.. Forums are Just Sooooo Last Century!!! Lets shut down Loosers= Delight and make it a hashtag!!





On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Doug Wellington = <dougwellington@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mark writes:
> Jeez... we have this fucking conversation e= very few months.. Im sick of people who dont use Gmail... get a fucking lif= e loooozzzzers!!! Stay with the pulse dudes.. keep up or ship out..!

[Continuing the attitude] =A0Man, email is so 199= 0's! =A0Get a life and start using a forum where you can upload tracks,= patches and pictures, and you never have to worry about out-of-office mess= ages or requests for unsubscription! =A0Better archives, better search, ava= ilable from any web browser...what's not to like?

ROFL!

Doug




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twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549b11754248049b530019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:19:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D70418347B; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=54EPrOWPhPNeBHXgq2GHMSLuXHAsHSW/s4JaDraukEg=; b=L7b4BM3QyMtZ8a2CgbUwbAKNmsWs+BKdBT3SWomsLnqlP7gAyKxok0DYJTbrP7TB9l agDYYM8rMT/ZnAKY5mNuU3w/iLGSHmtoBbfDxcMwTrLmLSE5kT5aZ4A6Ivr0Lj5uBi/b AN5dnuQhUFSSS4bVcB+y59yu4bokWFwA1mGMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Y88kWU/KJk6y8JTeJLmLn/7R58T5obwnZpe4PFs38vCjXgHY6jo8IckYkLBZhN8m/Y QO2JVBxZCT5pNdOdLONt8vnEoNtiddAKUiKCZ4EJ1rg1SWeIHMVc2JGru9VK3k4i6i4u IZHSu5tUUzxd/KI7Ef+6WDDw/y/OEZ7KvFF50= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:19:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:19:13 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:03 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Auto Panning script Just a quick reminder that these are global scripts. In other words, they fuck up everything if you forget to turn them off. I dubbled with A-Pan scripts a while back but gave it up pretty quick. A typical catastrophe situation is if you forget that you have a global script and make the mistake of running another dynamic script, like for example a fade out script. There are nice and tidy Autopan Plugins for normal people. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:21:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 575CA183483; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mm/wQsVsBedagm3t5cNNJdAhc7xSQvqGJjr1le6VwiU=; b=j19uiBn7SVr/WmYSXon0tocICZS2tDJ3MNbZBpTDPrNFIpG+m70+j9OuB1KimWN1ZV iqIg9bNPcG9bA6IFtwbXVl+SqZ15UL+1BKTGmfrkcXD0V5mvzxy3O9utHH24TeOODBxx WRH8hKw3B3EYVmNzGCW7odjQtZLNH+WJFaCL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v5azX7x52dzwhVLzMQLM7DSeyd/5jA4Z+T80H1+1duVKQu+vA+0WObDAS33Vc7yUV2 PkWqlR09QfdUuRby9aFlR0S8Cs6VauhF3S7FL4aUNy+8ticuxbIWat0N13fphNVfCdm2 1P48h7ZQn3rSNzMiDRYfqcBTIvUOQqqgt9TB8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:21:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0afa5ac7ac2049b533c0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0afa5ac7ac2049b533c0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP? --001636e0afa5ac7ac2049b533c0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP?

--001636e0afa5ac7ac2049b533c0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 21:26:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B02E183496; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 923203.21158.bm@omp1014.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296681968; bh=uPDd7/w4KZbX7hNwUU4eRfcNl1TlyQ8SdmqKpBaJXtk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wZ5RehrIyrV4DfdpdxE6BqnrQBcOu6Qki7oco8W5pLBz44a05AMmrA+32jACgj0mCAclWhwywsHEFs0ksU1gCXkdKyJ1h1CYeEErERISCd0mQZuFbs5xAfWhcmfEnuV127QsUz/fsXi0O89mw6Z2dBfyXII9keU/jtjY4xlikjk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D36wF7D7DbfjSqUKBQneb69in+4MrLWRoRFNLBvV8pCuzwj2JwgAz+T+iAaBlAvRAT+poFNyuOVqgho/9uzh1QQPY2WytS7st60k+pfKv9sRvHS4mmwN1cwq6OZIcVXgBxFVo6kgeLBnIEb7eOm6A/jvi31/zMl+9LgUaeN9fpE=; Message-ID: <785986.21287.qm@web59715.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: On.titYVM1ke.mIhz8br3EwRdjfb7dq4eu20q_eoa8hWWuN zZJmB0yszRbPS..bzK.PV3JzVLaTP.DIc.tkJGZrppZIIHd..A9C87M1BKDg 1hGQY7sWRVQZZSJmYFyPa9NpaCdjvYwgLISUWvAXQHcYK3EXClpqWOsuuLre 1xkqVCXYgcneuqjR2k.Vs.bk0zutf0Ge88GRlhKwRI4mLi5s_8IZA8UD6h6_ .DA7sRnEP2cDUwCO88YqT.rnbysp7l3wdAhFm4hF7rTqpR2m11BsrFIMaf10 rchVnR8QzzPLRS_8e3yJ5n.RmPWTTHO9UrUtgNz46gAfOVmAtwkLgvw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D48847D.7010601@cruzio.com> <299262.34360.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: Gmail? Me thinks not. WAS: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-813773484-1296681968=:21287" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:26:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-813773484-1296681968=:21287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Mark ur my bff. LD iz 4 L000Zerz! #BURN=0A=0A=0A=0AROFLMAO=0A=0A=0A=0A__= ______________________________=0AFrom: mark francombe =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Wed, February 2, 2011= 2:04:38 PM=0ASubject: Re: Gmail? Me thinks not. WAS: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPL= IES! 8 Daily =0ADigests today=0A=0AYo DUUUUUDE.. Forums are Just Sooooo Las= t Century!!! Lets shut down Loosers =0ADelight and make it a hashtag!!=0A= =0A=0A --0-813773484-1296681968=:21287 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@Mark ur my bff. =A0LD iz 4 L000Zerz!=A0 #BURN


ROFLMAO

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com&= gt;
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=0AYo DUUUUUDE.. Forums are Just Sooooo Last Century!!= ! Lets shut down Loosers Delight and make it a hashtag!!

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--20cf3054a549d23b60049b537ad1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:38:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D572B183461; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NSCQIQnqihKpcAlsVfHLnDWOwzSTGgtwpTQ9Zq3UBw4=; b=sZNzeqMD4HOubFzOPm8kLegCKOtDPrP/ySkS5mCQzd5Pk93TJZLv7syCumNeL0OiLA lJZOgTZAe5PUBha5+d1f0KHKqDpN/kH7dxM9jsIVLhbWPhmiGqmPWksEfC/vDZD7vJ01 3dAgmkLce3WFK8EnGUw/X21YqIinqEtL7yZBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OJ+hGgOzkS+YvHRcJFB9+//XncThFpeHiDcLZ+kyPRy/gprqaVqWfnZWkln+WcxkDd iSS7eGd6zkYhmavz44vzLqVmjMnUlGxuvxt9rOwubSrskPdo09mQnij67TMWi1d9E0RW SfUlrot51i9BU4CevheEgWl8uk8FqkXHObxPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:37:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: p6FpeZBHGP5O2kjIr13nUPBt0LA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e3384823049b544d90 Resent-Message-ID: <2b49oD.A._0D.LzdSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:38:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e3384823049b544d90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > these are global scripts. > Whats that exactly? Will the whole world spin? > In other words, > they fuck up everything if you forget to turn them off. > Why? If my Pedal is contolling pan speed, from 0 to a million.. cant I just back it off to 0 when I want the spinning to stop.. stop.. please make it stop!! -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e3384823049b544d90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
these are global scripts.

Whats= that exactly? Will the whole world spin?
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In other words,
they fuck up everything if you forget to turn them off.
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Why? If my Pedal is contolling pan speed, from 0 to a million.. can= t I just back it off to 0 when I want the spinning to stop.. stop.. please = make it stop!!



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--20cf305497e3384823049b544d90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:38:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B0C183474; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=PkxLkyty0lZSa16VN2+wmZiZxKjeBwmb4GJ5sKJ8kW8=; b=B9hahZ46Ehcz2e8c7LEI1CbHgtULh8/6azGHIy52v6zpkpfpn5pTBhxdsmAPiXNaHA DkoEUc/lXDzd3P9UW7H0AzOJ0aQyWU5YxJLfndUIs/3s/KldUFCAxVHvYYXqD1s+1Exk rZ9upfhumKz+CTcRBibaQYGpCS+CsPG2f2D2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OKwp+8AAghDGywooqY1Rd5uO9/DhVOUbNIjScWLOjCxCF0/jlhXxQszkAUB3Piww7u 02jxqxDoCTyhhYjiFWPX8AckBTcsIj3+5qzpqerQ9yja/P2FbZxJC7D8bwQC2GZW5MQI HBZNG+TOS8kad6O9Pl6d1+dcA4AsNWTiQWYs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:38:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VZklesLZ6KFq0kgvgGmvBtHD4GU Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a5fc15de5049b544fb0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a5fc15de5049b544fb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it was invented on the EDP.. its what the EDP is famous for... On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP? > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a5fc15de5049b544fb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 it was invented on the EDP.. its what the EDP is famous for...

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:

Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP?




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--20cf30549a5fc15de5049b544fb0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:39:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47540183453; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D49DD0A.7070500@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:39:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) I appreciate the suggestion for using G-mail as a sorter of emails. It has been suggested several times when this issue comes up over and over. I also have my own issues with Google and the ways they, and others like Yahoo treat privacy, so I just don't want to use it. It's fine if others of you do. Personally, I want a daily digest that I can quickly peruse the topics lists and decide, day by day, thread by thread, what to read. The daily digest was created for a reason and I'm just asking people to please respect the people who still use it to read the posts on this list, whether they use the digest or not. It's just a common courtesy to quickly edit your replies. Thanks, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:43:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D55D718347C; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=QEuRP41eD4oaqXiaCnFkETWK1PAMAxnnucoKyVYSAcg=; b=VqnBO3Gi2IEHqa+HjkQIvX448iqohS2W/teWI09GTnezdntwpf2J4rQ7124o4vuda8 iDQvLoVhCsnRe/t3C3QMR0m8aFcUt08IGu2nNogRMcgyzPRGxFvxqmAz+fHswUOHbJXw Hlkxi0U9QMDabsT4vXOnbQuswd4p1SqigLjKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=p0wSjQuzS1Kg8HNhJTThKasEssjzSUC/apDfPbxMYeU0vDdCEC8myKyZr3qt8snd0G Aqmc4fgclNXV+rookPoiNlOM9RLZUPGSxN8BYbNmXUURcdxMQb0bE1rADKuC2w0SyBrE CvXHQ+rNj1exi2h+KRSW4fdYkZ2i0IwNbtWVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D49DD0A.7070500@cruzio.com> References: <4D49DD0A.7070500@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:43:14 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82FZMS-ejg0n0D6a9x2evy53e7w Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc31353ec049b5461e9 Resent-Message-ID: <4_b5mB.A.zJE.Y4dSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:43:36 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc31353ec049b5461e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im interested in this.. what do they do? On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I also have my own issues with Google and the ways they, and others > like Yahoo treat privacy, so I just don't want to use it. It's fine if > others of you do. > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549dc31353ec049b5461e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im interested in this.. what do they do?

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--20cf30549dc31353ec049b5461e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:50:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9508A183484; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:50:27 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > And if you dont mind the ad that show in the right that find words > from your messages= > so your every mail gets scanned... :-D > > http://www.google-watch.org/ This is one of the salient reasons why I prefer not to use G-Mail as great a program as it obviously is. Should things ever get scary in the United States, and as a dying and heavily armed empire, history says there is more than a remote possibility of this happening, these companies will be pressured into giving up information on their citizens. It's already happened here in the US and don't be naive if you think it can't happen in the future. I'm not an alarmist.......such a scenario is a long ways off if it even ever happens but the government has done so many secret and illegal things since 9/11 that we only find out about years later (when, of course, they decide not to prosecute the guilty parties) that privacy is one of the single most important considerations in maintaining the semblance of a democratic world. Google is actually a very liberal company (and far less odious than Yahoo in that respect) but faced with being closed down or capitulating to an aggressive and frightened government crack down, I have no doubt that they'd share information (if they haven't already). Now please, this a looping forum so I don't want to get into politics, so if you vehemently disagree with me about what I've postulated, please let's continue this off list so we can all get back to discussing looping and why the LP-1 is vastly superior to all forms of looping in hardware or software (that's a joke.....lol) I just want to use the Daily Digest (and not have it overwhelm my inbox of emails) and not G-Mail and wanted everyone to know why I believe that. respectfully, rick rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:50:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 853E2183494; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bmr70stbVrnubx6qdUIXQoc12HZVL7p/Ek3hP9ozXCg=; b=EyGjhs/Y+gyi+tnpE4Ng0qGxvYxgH8RoZHhAFQPpmHxUOWLKk86csMjlk8xmgUy3vQ +ZmCcMlwscCJiRVkfnYNXD2pa+H4k322oXjG3YlbF1o0PyiUYLhHPqeH9K/J8dGp9Waz YtOIuGOSOzc6TnKStiHxTVrL7c5OI2CgDbLFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bcyYU6N+TxDZHIRzPS5UH/zdfzbs2dYPqIiibmd4tIPRdQD/QWRfo88gMv8AWS16FM ZH6wQ5ojS5cXos5rBpX9JC/WNgD54frPvccu0z57HFdnDwqBtaCMdXUpJAFhGlpnZk7a XKq9boJj5xmRkDhH0DKhhX3fhkfgitKx/Zjps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:50:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:37 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> these are global scripts. > > Whats that exactly? Will the whole world spin? They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particular command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the script. One global script I tried a while back always started running when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not work. >> >> In other words, >> they fuck up everything if you forget to turn them off. > > Why? If my Pedal is contolling pan speed, from 0 to a million.. cant I just > back it off to 0 when I want the spinning to stop.. stop.. please make it > stop!! No, the script will still run while working that "0" number. Might interfere with other scripts. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:56:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31D2F18349D; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=vt1xn4yzyFwS5u8kHZqG5mw6jPhNlcD8WH4FIJVAbeA=; b=vFa2FhujaSn1W77bllAFYZtvIip3FZtSzGK2xAmpExrDXIRIsjqBm0fasM/Xv5k3IZ oeCZ0xHxLHltJpTYe7ZKe2y2UvtUGf5Chby86xCi7BHN4JZXGUokOu8Ofc0mBN2syHdT NgjqOVJVqKqotYSfoVCtJ7BaQZWXxufoPQd2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=h3QklJHhOUvxr8sjG95g7utqNPPuOlcPziB5HkhKIN8CLkqPQYFthbi3g6MUm+hBlt M+Q/gRuPoVc5OIejU9JOisNkX0KJgjl1qwHH8fDnNKa2AbnhepB4Ey2hi+ZBKS+kPdXH NCyMN5E0Eps8eZhKLVUDHkKcDY8KXTlLVApNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:56:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pvUhPviwYaRLiEHnRL8yk_xLFrA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496139555e3049b549034 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:56:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496139555e3049b549034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK, what about a pan that lasts for 8 bars then... .. and what about my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use your pedals for one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something else, pitching for example at another point... how could I do that? > They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particular > command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the > script. One global script I tried a while back always started running > when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every > session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not > work. > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496139555e3049b549034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, what about a pan that lasts for 8 bars then...

.. and what abou= t my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use your pedals for = one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something else, pitching fo= r example at another point... how could I do that?


They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particula= r
command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the
script. One global script I tried a while back always started running
when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every
session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not
work.



-- mark francombe
www.markfrancom= be.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= br> twitter @markfrancombe
http://vi= meo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.= no
--20cf305496139555e3049b549034-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 22:58:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4165B1834A8; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NqXaBTdt19OgQL5pHwq2rp8+53Ct73B3TdGNQwyvZ7A=; b=KHQv4ziNWN0MvTP6UPqbQ5x/iSQtBnYIn46ZpbThwuXZgKF5AtFFxIhXx+g8zxpER9 U8ttAWQ7C0ka40sWGsS8x/kr+bbwFHjGt32segqktSN0XoSxRgI/j1GlAfkE8xDFHKF6 PWj+G2c7QMfLyPHXqr0krqI5rPEGl1gmOTmCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O1SHbo7z99nS1A4CaC7PvQ3H3DddeOFl6le2NOJKHi+JNQ/fOEnFNRH6g6BVUODG46 thMLUtijMeRCJojSQNne2EtLF724jLdlTlpcO9cNDdVAibbs9H7v1QmYdkL580dda5q/ zAnG93gOOzvnKvuAm52587ewEvSpr5lpdTQNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:57:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9iKC_.A.15E.4FeSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:58:00 +0000 (UTC) LOL :-) The EDP also introduced "Substitute" that I think does it in a more useful way; waiting to the next loop round until starting to play back the new slices recently cut into the loop. Then the audience won't hear the old loop layer duck off as you play the part that is cut into the loop, sounds more seamless to my ears. Per On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM, mark francombe wrote: > it was invented on the EDP.. its what the EDP is famous for... > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ^|>^m wrote: >> >> Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 23:04:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D5DE1834A5; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EBLvefqprGzsDLRd9s8PfNemQjCjWbHIbc2xCUr/z74=; b=Z1ES24xFI410ouQVHM1Gliq15KMkRlpTfSpq/SQdRon7aKbUkXvUGnLI+mkS3jrcT+ /rXN+u1JQ6yjn++4aneoE9PCXF7RlZUn3jXi3wOF6KKqrrlIgX2DMLW0dow4ugYfWr9j xf23w+KugY2crHmxhm4E3r3pRKeDNIJbUPmlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZvoC/seDmaS23amHkKLnz++r9uDctNtqxaoq5KwXpSt7VoLs1A2aFniwhs9pRMRQIb Rseeh9FlNEG1t42QhkVQ/YL+TIpAEqSJIMU/uGUdPRaDqwXGLco7zCGrkI0X93sA+Jn2 YUKU6MiIfHuL3PBymdcI4Mh6RVi0jSHylMv0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <32103420-D54B-4F02-A02F-E540EBB5E23F@sea.plala.or.jp> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:04:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94CMYrkdfPn7c2QwYDNJmxDjmSY Message-ID: Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15f0dc53d049b54ac35 Resent-Message-ID: <_tPkPB.A.xOF.BMeSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15f0dc53d049b54ac35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im presuming that when Bill says replace, thats what an LP1 calls a substitute... I find no use for replace, it seems so un-musical and bumpy.. putting that hole in the music, unless you play with the dry signal muted, which can be interesting for the La Fosse moves... Substitute is always so musical and surprising.. so much so that I used to have 2 sub switches programmed next to each other, so I could easier get into the groove of doing off-beat sus-subs m On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > LOL :-) The EDP also introduced "Substitute" that I think does it in > a more useful way; waiting to the next loop round until starting to > play back the new slices recently cut into the loop. Then the audience > won't hear the old loop layer duck off as you play the part that is > cut into the loop, sounds more seamless to my ears. > > Per > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > it was invented on the EDP.. its what the EDP is famous for... > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ^|>^m > wrote: > >> > >> Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP? > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15f0dc53d049b54ac35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im presuming that when Bill says replace, thats what an LP1 calls a substit= ute... I find no use for replace, it seems so un-musical and bumpy.. puttin= g that hole in the music, unless you play with the dry signal muted, which = can be interesting for the La Fosse moves...
Substitute is always so musical and surprising.. so much so that I used to = have 2 sub switches programmed next to each other, so I could easier get in= to the groove of doing off-beat sus-subs

m

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL :-) =A0 The EDP also introduced "Substitute" that I think doe= s it in
a more useful way; waiting to the next loop round until starting to
play back the new slices recently cut into the loop. Then the audience
won't hear the old loop layer duck off as you play the part that is
cut into the loop, sounds more seamless to my ears.

Per


On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> it was invented on the EDP.. its what the EDP is famous for...
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cool!!! Is this something that can be done on an EDP?




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a15f0dc53d049b54ac35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 23:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 248B918348F; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qZo5s5/G0TFvznYDBEDsmYTxMkOrJ4M4pdvj+ftmShA=; b=NX1go4iDA9MiZrpq27kctIF5iaT4w2swKuh4mDll1hkc8AVkoyOxLdB8n38oLiWDfi aKUZpgG/Ltp/viEtUhA+A8tKfdf8qliKBVAlXIIdXwMNnxCGHNVqhdZ72dItQi0HUrj+ 5cWSEXT+Nuk5Cx7BqcvSL11VUXSoMjyffhwPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VUEEts3022yCQIlH9kr6bUZrfZggZwQ5YAyxqyEpib7I7W0JSNjrC0pBuoxpXqfMjG ht3R/fgrUaudoVwfXD6RHfhpsQyuuECS52l7VDaXR1uiTe0l2lYsenQbElGn+wjwkKgt NlWYYehQaofeiplOfnPTQaswYoi784iDamgFM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:07:48 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM, mark francombe wrote: > .. and what about my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use > your pedals for one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something > else, pitching for example at another point... how could I do that? On the Gordius LG2 I assign different Expression Pedals to the switches of a bank. Like I did on the FCB1010 but with the LG2 they won't sway back again, you have program some other bank switch to call up the first Expression Pedal. With one band I'm playing (EWI) with I don't even bring the Expression pedals, I just set up any of the LG2 switches to switch between two alternative values for a parameter - typically "a whole lotta feedback" and "a little less feedback". That's neet on stage, not having too many pedals around. For looping I need at least one seamless pedal though, but I use to double it up with a two way switch anyway and often this is set to work in momentary mood (typically good for controlling a freeze effect or stuff like "rate shift one octave as long as the pedal is pressed down") Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 23:15:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD77D18345E; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=FTt0TCOW5XCghkTZ1nuUMpDm3jmVqSYwFJ+hMHm0l74=; b=f040x4JDkWqBvRf97pORp+hrFV3Hlmj7lnunqaevuAkloE5sE3D3ZAy2FJwhx86dVN LzdCa/0Mg0j0TYPaa7gLypjY7OD5QkPVOzHanL1euoUycTyJaFrFSx+KP5GC7WJ4IYyO nqGY650RPSYXxKpfSOHF5y0k8IaHWhW9Vf+zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=kAXknNEHjbYqvXUG+SqvsS5GD/CTWeSZlfjxUqcrXR7wyW6R3cDabPHu9FwAmBmwu4 KZL9ix62n94wWwAnFo6Mbe+nrE9CcyWQCT9DDI/gwBtIM4mGpQxOgalew/ILq/PV+oj4 kplJS24TLqow1Y4Ltl+td7qmqxtxM+SyuGlCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:15:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: in3vlYXcD3r0ZfTqfTxjlCh4f58 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e3df2325049b54d43f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:15:59 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e3df2325049b54d43f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On the Gordius LG2 I assign different Expression Pedals to the > switches of a bank. > Does this mean that for each bank you can assign different CC=B4s for the pedals to send out? I see, Im too stuck in FCB methodology, well I guess I have to be.. But heres a specific question. Can a Mobius script cancel the default mapping of the pedal momentarily, an= d reinstate it after... um.. after... er.. well I se the problem.. youd have to have 2 switches, thing on... thing off... right? Could this be a way round the scripts that go global? A Start crazy panning pedal and a stop crazy panning pedal... --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e3df2325049b54d43f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
On the Gordius LG2 I assign different Expression Pedals to= the
switches of a bank.

Does this mean that for ea= ch bank you can assign different CC=B4s for the pedals to send out? I see, = Im too stuck in FCB methodology, well I guess I have to be.. But heres a sp= ecific question.

Can a Mobius script cancel the default mapping of the pedal momentarily= , and reinstate it after... um.. after... er.. well I se the problem.. youd= have to have 2 switches, thing on... thing off... right? Could this be a w= ay round the scripts that go global? A Start crazy panning pedal and a stop= crazy panning pedal...

--
mark francombe
www.m= arkfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkha= o.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf305497e3df2325049b54d43f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 2 23:42:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAFE418348E; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 185950.89975.bm@omp1065.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296690138; bh=lJtJRfVM6oQ0+O31dnid9lU2HR1m9TEC41OXAYLsPXs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W14aZ5rqZIisLxTjM+Xjka8zic8OqE0/Szh+pXevgpFxKcDdNR9VQm3NqTUECmc1q8UKOcX5WxW1JZZ6O7s4Z3yx9OyDN2boLXfZf9DA+gUHTvaJOKa0/YNuEUP+marvChAsArzhuWxHzeMrcLvMtoGH4Yf9LzWNMT/H8sLTKhY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5KGpw9Jgo4uEO7N85VJ3kIKBY+L8nV9WsVoeLHThsoVf/uCPRHBKy95Rq13Ugv0AJn4yJ/dk7Nx4h7vDRs2xBTNO8z8V/qbc0rtVcL7aWLBwXnATVV3J2ZTRkKouT2I+sYx2s7o7pbdH3QIf6Y0Y1vYqzzYVWmEYJDnf0BpbWkk=; Message-ID: <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Cv_qonoVM1kAHs_NNqyKpgnErv5TKQINMeNYSWYpe8qXV5d sOR7GvSvPQGalT8tE9ytxk0p0JIs3tI19fEEXpMx9vsoykXmBpJvMMiHwy1s VQlKJOgZh.7hCOz6GXknyQ6r2n8xpXVn27w9VWqINy0ti2ECUsVNFEYKjO7A j_IDzeiH1Uy_nqx.wuGWOLqmv1ajHiaYzYpwc4eG6IHF5LQmrwecX4Gw03V_ LYdvhdb705TlbUw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:42:18 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:42:18 +0000 (UTC) > Should things ever get scary in the United States, and as a dying and heavily >armed empire, history says there is more than a remote possibility of this >happening, these companies will be pressured into giving up information on >their citizens. 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Regards, Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 00:01:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D46DD183498; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z7moWc3w18Rv98c72aRe2r/jYTjuOt9R0P3hhVWpPUY=; b=ncfIBJ0/wJp1r6zbJtMbwjxKfkPlJCZFy2eXUPg+rC37m3y+fMgDDbiOEyO1TWhdpU lsKVXMqHfQ3LZScsWGXwKWRmqSSAB3KHf0E01UJUiVcMXziRWIY3vC9mqPZ1DoEYyM5O xpMeE1KE1fNJoFpw+svXfyXThqHj1h8b2VWek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EZsZNY1T7gByxxD7VMdCkFBRaRhCIbdt5zoO9EzMf9Dt8ZzWx+7kJGnx59t0jgH9Rm GurZ8hUgNSsVlzhjUpcUeScfhOfspFxkLV3++UnyCj8rJccvKx8pcaMdFxsd0lirCTZH yBTnqI0QMQ9CtnEJn1TypNz32LFcrcaCxAoac= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:01:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325554fa61eca38049b557789 Resent-Message-ID: <1TaWJC.A.6mH.RBfSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) --000325554fa61eca38049b557789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > >What??? That's no joke son! All your base are belong to the LP-1! > Damn, I just tried to "Like" that e-mail. --000325554fa61eca38049b557789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>What??? =A0That's no joke son! =A0All your base are be= long to the LP-1!

Damn, I= just tried to "Like" that e-mail. --000325554fa61eca38049b557789-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 00:22:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CE6518348D; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=kXcxtwjGA++XimrZHl16BvxghruWNQTasvN/Q9gdyRc=; b=aiSBCOOl8QMEZw566e7P8qcnYMChTqcD767vxlaNTmiAlSS4vFJSCVCTCctr0h6Lei wdyKedcOrAiFNBQdrp3jzwnVGuItsU1WViszwh6sVGCNZc2wMXd6TYVTN1NGlby78wHc paheh7z8erRbeyH4Gq4jrDW7dhjI8zykHVKvo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=MWWqBQCP3sRPOdI1nWLQJHdiLePst0uo5uZK6enNgNz514zBdusVtSQRkrWe99lOia Fy0f2w0C/lyppdxzkLWeCyhRJPjEtVvim6Ia6pYdfNs9eaXafLrD+9/zQRZROkNZjfEN 7W6/ygqzVqzC07BfuGpQm0M2IsHwve9HrkjtQ= References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-557747911 Message-Id: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:21:50 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 00:22:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-557747911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Il giorno 02/feb/2011, alle ore 23:56, mark francombe ha scritto: > OK, what about a pan that lasts for 8 bars then...=20 Not exactly what you're looking for, Mark, but I'd suggest you to give a che= ck to the "Quadrapan" plugin (don't remember the company's name right now). It lets you set time signatures and speed of the pan effect even for a 4 dim= ensional audio speaker system. Not so CPU demanding. In my set up I use 8 istance of it- one for each mobius track- with differen= t settings related to the 8th setting of each track. In bidule I have a set up where the quadrapan works with no pan at all, it j= ust "ping pong" the loop from 1L (wich is connected to the output) to 3L (wi= ch is NOT connected to the out). This way you can generate smooth crescendo o= r diminuendo of your looped track: very orchestral effect if you combine 2 o= r 3 tracks with different settings on each quadrapan istance. >=20 > .. and what about my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use= your pedals for one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something e= lse, pitching for example at another point... how could I do that? I'm quite sure you can do that changing "midi configuration". You can set up a script that - on each press- rounds trough different midi c= onfig. Preset, set-up, midi configuration are unevalueted options that mobius offer= s.=20 For my pre-composed music, I find very useful having different setups, both f= or the looper and the midi config.: each with the name of THAT piece. It seems that no-one use it... -f www.eterogeneo.com >=20 >=20 > They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particular > command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the > script. One global script I tried a while back always started running > when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every > session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not > work. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no --Apple-Mail-1-557747911 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Il giorno 02/feb/2011, a= lle ore 23:56, mark francombe <= mark@markfrancombe.com> ha scritto:

OK, what about a pan that lasts for 8 bars then...

Not exactly what you're looking for,= Mark, but I'd suggest you to give a check to the "Quadrapan" plugin (don't r= emember the company's name right now).
It lets you set time signat= ures and speed of the pan effect even for a 4 dimensional audio speaker syst= em.
Not so CPU demanding.
In my set up I use 8 istance o= f it- one for each mobius track- with different settings related to the 8th s= etting of each track.
In bidule I have a set up where the quadrapa= n works with no pan at all, it just "ping pong" the loop from 1L (wich is co= nnected to the output) to 3L (wich is NOT connected to the out). This way yo= u can generate smooth crescendo or diminuendo of your looped track: very orc= hestral effect if you combine 2 or 3 tracks with different settings on each q= uadrapan istance.


.. and what ab= out my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use your pedals for= one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something else, pitching fo= r example at another point... how could I do that?
I'm quite sure you can do that changing "midi configuration".
You can set up a script that - on each press- rounds trough different midi= config.

Preset, set-up, midi configuration are une= valueted options that mobius offers. 
For my pre-composed mus= ic, I find very useful having different setups, both for the looper and the m= idi config.: each with the name of THAT piece.
It seems that no-on= e use it...

-f




They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particular=
command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the
script. One global script I tried a while back always started running
when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every
session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not
work.



--
= mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com<= /a>
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no=
= --Apple-Mail-1-557747911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 01:03:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD7718345B; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cRLuyrx1FWC20Ymf0jP6+rvVRaklbTy5E+MoqUYBeO0=; b=Rq8J0ZObToIyZTWGubC8tFClkAfJ1K6xMXxANKf9trx0s3EkrvIkixDWdgBtZcdjGx 5vm5WoRYFbSM1PNNGVwnHhXWexEADiBECF7PZllXZIp1f3w1UYjITSOd0ZyQ7i862hYy ui4X51YbgF/Kr+wORmNAxReV59f3kcw3ipmiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=bbONE3lspjAzdCWpqjOfge/Uixd/qQlw/1UcSA4S8tFQ6jzY0kFn2w/rUEYF4wmhzG IlBjTFrTDAGOikLs6yhOOi/8fmuXkbldK13f9qFYiaa++1mab4zIVuA2i10G9ivR1unb sPX3x88RBW62V0501UQ8v1FmvUnwfgZzv7B4A= References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 02:02:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4923475316428509302@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e39e4344049b5654cc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:03:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e39e4344049b5654cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ill check it out Fab... I didn't really want another plugin tho, just trying to Get an effect i need without adding more, more more! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 3 Feb 2011, at 01:22, Fabio_A wrote: Il giorno 02/feb/2011, alle ore 23:56, mark francombe < mark@markfrancombe.com> ha scritto: OK, what about a pan that lasts for 8 bars then... Not exactly what you're looking for, Mark, but I'd suggest you to give a check to the "Quadrapan" plugin (don't remember the company's name right now). It lets you set time signatures and speed of the pan effect even for a 4 dimensional audio speaker system. Not so CPU demanding. In my set up I use 8 istance of it- one for each mobius track- with different settings related to the 8th setting of each track. In bidule I have a set up where the quadrapan works with no pan at all, it just "ping pong" the loop from 1L (wich is connected to the output) to 3L (wich is NOT connected to the out). This way you can generate smooth crescendo or diminuendo of your looped track: very orchestral effect if you combine 2 or 3 tracks with different settings on each quadrapan istance. .. and what about my second question Per? Do you for example manage to use your pedals for one thing, secondary feedback at one point, and something else, pitching for example at another point... how could I do that? I'm quite sure you can do that changing "midi configuration". You can set up a script that - on each press- rounds trough different midi config. Preset, set-up, midi configuration are unevalueted options that mobius offers. For my pre-composed music, I find very useful having different setups, both for the looper and the midi config.: each with the name of THAT piece. It seems that no-one use it... -f www.eterogeneo.com > They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particular > command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the > script. One global script I tried a while back always started running > when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every > session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not > work. > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e39e4344049b5654cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ill check it out Fab... I didn't r= eally want another plugin tho, just trying to Get an effect i need without = adding more, more more!

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 3 Feb 2011, at 01:22, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:


Il giorno 02/feb/2011, alle ore 2= 3:56, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> ha sc= ritto:

OK, what about a pan th= at lasts for 8 bars then...

Not = exactly what you're looking for, Mark, but I'd suggest you to give = a check to the "Quadrapan" plugin (don't remember the company= 's name right now).
It lets you set time signatures and speed of the pan effect even for a= 4 dimensional audio speaker system.
Not so CPU demanding.
<= div>In my set up I use 8 istance of it- one for each mobius track- with dif= ferent settings related to the 8th setting of each track.
In bidule I have a set up where the quadrapan works with no pan at all= , it just "ping pong" the loop from 1L (wich is connected to the = output) to 3L (wich is NOT connected to the out). This way you can generate= smooth crescendo or diminuendo of your looped track: very orchestral effec= t if you combine 2 or 3 tracks with different settings on each quadrapan is= tance.


.. and what about my second question= Per? Do you for example manage to use your pedals for one thing, secondary= feedback at one point, and something else, pitching for example at another= point... how could I do that?

I'm quite sure you can do that changing &qu= ot;midi configuration".
You can set up a script that - on ea= ch press- rounds trough different midi config.

Preset, set-up, midi configuration are unevalueted options that mobius offe= rs.=A0
For my pre-composed music, I find very useful having diffe= rent setups, both for the looper and the midi config.: each with the name o= f THAT piece.
It seems that no-one use it...

-f
<= a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com">= www.eterogeneo.com




They run all the time. Not just during the execution of the particula= r
command lines of the script but constantly until you turn off the
script. One global script I tried a while back always started running
when Mobius was launched so in order to use it I had to start every
session by turning off that script - or my Record command would not
work.



-- mark francombe
www.= markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
= http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.= looop.no
--20cf305497e39e4344049b5654cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 01:49:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9FD9183461; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9F39D1BE-8F79-4424-A485-0729D2B8F9B1@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110202231600.732F318347F@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-562965466 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: yet more Joy of quantize replace Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:49:05 -0800 References: <20110202231600.732F318347F@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:49:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-562965466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per sez: > The EDP also introduced "Substitute" that I think does it in > a more useful way; waiting to the next loop round to get that kind of response I use quantize replace+original so that the edit appears on the next cycle. Again the trick to getting this EDP-like performance is to double command on a preset, so if for example I write two commands of quantize replace+ original on a midi foot controller preset switch, I press the switch once and the next time the loop cycles I'll hear what i added, with the Looperlative LP-1 you can set quantize replace from a factor of 1, which would replace the entire loop length to a factor of 128, which would divide the loop up in to 128 little teeny pieces. I usually stick to the lower values unless i really want to get glitchy. I was using a factor of 16 for this improv. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-562965466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per sez:

 The EDP also = introduced "Substitute" that I think does it in
a more useful way; = waiting to the next loop round 
 &nbs= p;

 to get that kind of response  I use = quantize replace+original so that the edit appears on the next cycle. = Again the trick to getting this EDP-like performance is to double = command on a preset, so if for example I write two commands of quantize = replace+ original on a midi foot controller preset switch, I press the = switch once and the next time the loop cycles I'll hear what i added, = with the Looperlative LP-1 you can set quantize replace from a factor of = 1, which would replace the entire loop length to a factor of 128, which = would divide the loop up in to 128 little teeny pieces. I usually stick = to the lower values unless i really want to get glitchy. I was using a = factor of 16 for this improv.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-562965466-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 07:49:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1362418345B; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n161a5ttB21QG0yhPEMqg90CdW2m4iO3R7IWqeC8Crw=; b=bSj/Kcqpw9VgQuls+PNrK8ExXPn7jAUuvqf444bGHwD5LHEyvCPHNSxSneq1O8mvlU 2SXXyBNx+djr6opflVSvXBXRPyZsnFV7Jwvk5Fbw6hON62Tjw7X68Ipt/TAnl4hFsA7G Zid7P7Bn1EPXwwtbGe1KGKtHcyUbbQJVkcrkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=skh+TuizZZhXMNXAl/iome98p0z6ygChId0cwS2KXc6EzaQPjqpaMt1/dJuduoR8Ob c9TPOB+gTbpVH2NIIzPESKrO3sE5Uy3z9f7irawBLAK8DifIZkTtuiQF2l9tN2+JH5Rk 0RvBGOElsuZun/Uo+DIWSxXKG8mwBw6/gyTOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> References: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:49:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:49:26 +0000 (UTC) wow....thanx for the eye opener bro! On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: >> >> And if you dont mind the ad that show in the right that find words from >> your messages=3D >> so your every mail gets scanned... :-D >> >> http://www.google-watch.org/ > > This is one of the salient reasons why I prefer not to use G-Mail as grea= t a > program as it > obviously is. > > Should things ever get scary in the United States, and as a dying and > heavily armed empire, =A0 history > says there is more than a remote possibility of this happening, =A0these > companies will be pressured > into giving up information on their citizens. =A0 It's already happened h= ere > in the US and don't be naive > if you think it can't happen in the future. > > I'm not an alarmist.......such a scenario is a long ways off if it even e= ver > happens > but the government has done so many secret and illegal things since 9/11 > that we only find out > about years later (when, of course, they decide not to prosecute the guil= ty > parties) that > privacy is one of the single most important considerations in maintaining > the semblance of > a democratic world. > > Google is actually a very liberal company (and far less odious than Yahoo= in > that respect) but > faced with being closed down or capitulating to an aggressive and frighte= ned > government crack > down, I have no doubt that they'd share information (if they haven't > already). > > Now please, =A0this a looping forum so I don't want to get into politics,= =A0so > if you vehemently disagree with > me about what I've postulated, =A0please let's continue this off list so = we > can all get back to discussing > looping and why the LP-1 is vastly superior to all forms of looping in > hardware or software (that's a joke.....lol) > > I just want to use the Daily Digest (and not have it overwhelm my inbox o= f > emails) and not G-Mail and wanted everyone to know why I believe that. > > respectfully, =A0 rick > > rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 08:02:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CABF218345A; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qFDRh5KZpOAiD4xC8ZjBB/3GIiVXDLJcf6gYa2OFwZ4=; b=DT+OqfR4ihkiPU1MxJ/Pgow43RYi6f1B2YSmHfvbn0AkHcMJ3d4dBMZFBK33VhSms+ KSpNNEUVnlqPAOefmKKu0iX4iJsklp1Um9qQG0YxuWg4rK/EDzDZcvLoD/rze6nSbgj1 uQw3JEpd8eNjmhdjQcsakGq6myIWgecYhCjYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o7/wN9RU2VPiu3tkRHVJs2BYPzjpRHq1f6vZojd4vjXHVm3eKBh8Lml+NkopMX7vMx Hzvkx3joS5zIc2jX/FcucQdUsHvX7u7+tir+v7XxJCOoHAC2PgLRwSrlqAmoasUz+4Hb GQE7sY+erltZRDfSk5tzn1LdUzsEGhKWkAcUU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:02:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-2YHQD.A.IaC.fEmSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Todd thats is great buddy,i hope you re doing this thing live,very nice to hear and quite appealing you might soon even get sponsored by Mc Millens products;-) and i love cello i still have hopes to learn it someday. keep them coming baby! Luis On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Bravo Todd! > > Well done, just beautiful. Really, I don't know what else to say. > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> I made another looping video this weekend. This time a cover of Michael >> Jackson's Billie Jean. It's perfect timing to post to the list after Rick's >> post about using your own instrument for percussion and Mark's post about >> how much he hates looper's building up their loops, which I do in this >> video. Hopefully the bright pop tempo offsets it:) >> >> http://vimeo.com/19364422 >> >> >> I'm happy to hear any comments good, bad, or ugly. >> >> >> -Todd Matthews > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 09:01:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3644118345C; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 566433228/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.20.56/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.20.56 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjACANb9SU1YbRQ4/2dsb2JhbAAMln/LB4VXBI8F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,418,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="566433228" Message-ID: <4D4A6EE0.5040902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 09:01:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today OT References: <4D49DD0A.7070500@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D49DD0A.7070500@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Personally, I want a daily digest that I can quickly peruse the topics > lists and decide, > day by day, thread by thread, what to read. In case anyone just can't stand those digest problems any more ...and they happen to be Thunderbird users... Sign Off the digest Sign On the regular list. Create new folder in Thunderbird. When first post comes in, select Message>Create filter from message. which is >From Contains Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com and Move Message To (your new folder) NOW, when you open that folder select View > Sort By > Threaded Then you can open the folder, see the messages sorted by thread, a lot clearer than opening a digest for the subject headings (and even delete by thread) > The daily digest was created for a reason Sure, but these days nobody has those old mail browsers that wouldn't filter messages. (like AOL) Using the digest actually wrecks the threading of the messages for everybody else, whether they use GMail or use Thunderbird ...or if they search the archives. > please > respect the people who still use it to read the posts on this list, whether > they use the digest or not. absolutely Edit messages. Don't use HTML (which can make the digest unreadable) andy (hoping this isn't in HTML ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 09:43:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 925B0183474; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UBRkuy+Ej4OIZdLaZDWkqS1YM+ZfQPpY2nqy7IkWRBk=; b=fWfRO8smcNTqQr1boWI42jJn364i1N52imDqQv5JK043jR+VXyw7VryBf1Mwfh6bDW 1cuRFyfUk8J3O7xHJuPmKp5Esj9GXKFMuD9VP1KvRJpwM3Nk4eiAHx9od4GF0jmVN4zU ZsfSfS1SPMJ7aOHwGE1s/mwADDqKpi8jhyt04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=H50Wx8Ojx2BCGAvwGh5YITDeb2Cw96XkJaEssLOfKj5PZUJt2hFL+6toWxaQhbmBwi ZUAhhrM+N2XCqk6Ms4f99jbD02nKOeMeSpr4zYGHT7bFXo3uJCaF11X9hR5rtVCNw/1W LuGl6/HpZHZgW/rTFMNdR0lp1yRv/K63T75do= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D49DFB3.2030500@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:43:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043449276b88f049b5d9a38 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:43:53 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043449276b88f049b5d9a38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Been listening to Laurie Anderson's "Homeland" a lot lately and the words "heavily armed dying empire" bring that album to mind! Wonderful album in fact! Thanks Rick for your words -Petri- --20cf3043449276b88f049b5d9a38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Been listening to Laurie Anderson's "Homeland" a lot lately and the words "heavily armed dying empire" bring that album to mind!
Wonderful album in fact! Thanks Rick for your words

-Petri-

--20cf3043449276b88f049b5d9a38-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 10:29:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F56E183478; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p7zWrSAH66xjMLJIsVLe7ffw/r5mGdReizOI1r+X6UA=; b=q81hZyy0It6YL5QtlYMOY40G0NBiz58y/uZUkysYLpl+frJF37/2eHfOXMTROWLhSS KIkDCWQArnUJst9BBpBKSyrAG4WJI4rTWC/Qys3IgxVWX/yVOSxW+pNSgo7DsitJZMCO C1fVbkrU4tFd3OYlVPRjz06kW3iyw8gdnYXQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A+bx5xk6n+RctvHgKRelwbp9/BTPDD+DZG2+k3PM8M6dAOsNvSJDX4pF+kh2PDys5n sW5aTbVyZZgGUmxMaISRQBEwrY6R923AVE+sB5aQUApqPUZVGtUx/VdIAuJ1dTKFOfSU pmKBRxnBM//Th6k9Secc3NH9Xhjqc/C0JlIK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:29:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Script help please? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:29:41 +0000 (UTC) > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On the Gordius LG2 I assign different Expression Pedals to the >> switches of a bank. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:15 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Does this mean that for each bank you can assign different CC=C2=B4s for = the > pedals to send out? No, but I think you can do that as well! :-)) I wrote that I assigned different Exp Pedals to the SWITCHES, not generally for a complete bank. But in order to assign what Exp Pedal each switch inside a bank will call up you go into the bank edit area to set it up. > Can a Mobius script cancel the default mapping of the pedal momentarily, = and > reinstate it after... um.. after... er.. well I se the problem.. youd hav= e > to have 2 switches, thing on... thing off... right? Could this be a way > round the scripts that go global? A Start crazy panning pedal and a stop > crazy panning pedal... Well you can make a Mobius script that calls up a new MIDI Configuration in Mobius. I used that a couple of years ago, so I know it is possible. That way I could use the same MIDI pedalboard setup to reach different looper functions. In my case I used it only to change between different kind of scales affecting my rate-shift-foot-keyboard bank. Today I don't need that because the LG2 has more switches and I can instantly access all rate shift intervals I need. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 10:59:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 117AC18347A; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=fzQWiM1QY8W7AMZGUfxUaTDs4WZt4ZFWx1Mrm246BQI=; b=aWcK8L+9cWv0lkk4qFBg2f4/Zq/3dHAF5Kv0YgY0RaGSznXf+DfTN0ZtqyMV2LDQt2 leUe374KU7swwV0C2foYUZ02czOXzNux9LIyXT5JVl+PFtXCyG1XEQK0n6Qm9yK9EZQy qySqM+CRaoRGuTtsQAFiLndacubqPMm40wLfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=i5lu/KinQKnf5k+B3PaLxUoEixUZmTM8x9NfpMqzdqMgXT/RSl8ln6cNSwsaXeiv3I Q+gCXbXOzkm3xZ6s5F4UNhfhuiZdv/jJSfCnOffOftko5QcrLQN6ZR4Zm1GXJBhSu4xR 4yJzp19Sx0Cp2FHUaPBZFMO+ZNc3ObOKs9yts= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-596001054 Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 05:59:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <25D94390-9171-416D-8534-D21BA3374D49@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <1k_dd.A.joB.gqoSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:59:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-596001054 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Todd thats is great buddy,i hope you re doing this thing live,very > nice to hear and quite appealing > you might soon even get sponsored by Mc Millens products;-) > and i love cello i still have hopes to learn it someday. > keep them coming baby! > Luis >>>=20 >>> http://vimeo.com/19364422 Thanks Luis! No live shows yet but thats my goal in doing these = arrangements so I can get out there doing shows as soon as possible. = It's tough though to get started. I've been hitting up friends that play = out here in Virginia but I haven't got something nailed down yet. I just = finished the next arrangement last night and I'm gonna make a video of = it this weekend. I realized I've been kinda going through the decades = with the first two....Zeppelin from the 70's, MJ from the 80's, so next = is a Radiohead tune from the 90's. -Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-3-596001054 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Todd = thats is great buddy,i hope you re doing this thing live,very
nice to = hear and quite appealing
you might soon even get sponsored by Mc = Millens products;-)
and i love cello i still have hopes to learn it = someday.
keep them coming baby!
Luis

http://vimeo.com/19364422


Thank= s Luis! No live shows yet but thats my goal in doing these arrangements = so I can get out there doing shows as soon as possible. It's tough = though to get started. I've been hitting up friends that play out here = in Virginia but I haven't got something nailed down yet. I just finished = the next arrangement last night and I'm gonna make a video of it this = weekend. I realized I've been kinda going through the decades with the = first two....Zeppelin from the 70's, MJ from the 80's, so next is a = Radiohead tune from the 90's.

-Todd = Matthews


= --Apple-Mail-3-596001054-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 12:29:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C557B18347B; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4A9F85.7030102@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 04:28:53 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Wellington CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today References: <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9ABYEB.A.lfF.N-pSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:29:01 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Doug Wellington wrote: > What??? That's no joke son! All your base are belong to the LP-1! errrr, to be completely accurate, you haven't been completely thorough in reading my posts, Doug. I've posted about the LP-1, the LP-2, the Gibson EDP, the Electix Repeater, the Lexicon Jamman, the Roland RC-50, the Line 6 DL-4 and the Line 6 M-9 and Ableton's Live in my time on Loopers Delight. I've been an official endorer of the LP-1 and LP-2, the Gibson EDP and the Electrix Repeater professionally over the years My current rig uses an M-9 and an LP-1 though I'm about to add two LP-2 Mini Loopers to that rig and stil intend to use my Electrix Repeater when I have gigs that have more set up time (I adore that you can use found sounds and turn them into instaneous chromatic instruments with a 3 octave range when used with a wind, percussion or keyboard controller) I do love the LP-1 and LP-2 and am working actively to try and make them better instruments so I do have some vested interest in Looperlative but I also firmly believe that all loopers are valid. In fact, I just posted this past week about Lilli Lewis' wonderful performance with a Boss RC-2. I have my preferences but I'm not uninformed and I'm not a bigot. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 12:31:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEDA8183480; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4AA013.30404@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 04:31:15 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today OT References: <4D4A6EE0.5040902@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D4A6EE0.5040902@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > In case anyone just can't stand those digest problems any more > ...and they happen to be Thunderbird users... > > Sign Off the digest > Sign On the regular list. > > Create new folder in Thunderbird............ Thanks for the advice and instructions, Andy, I'll do this when I get around to it. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 12:36:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42476183483; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=x8wh3CHJxCpllLUFyJbyOipyaRE9xSRBK39ImVPaKkA=; b=sAsZX9JSArEyZAzZ/pDwpBy865/M28mEq5pOZB2njJXcj3NDx4T/tAb/0tgzMOCkWB 9z7Z6/QZPpedpckX11sUhxv5ys+H7l3fKVFPVXF0LMac+BXsilCJwn9qti8p4/cCqznV no8GjeUhrZfSBKQDW1L//BGBjh/u6gQJi4Bu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=KlQXBYefsCZbbWpqf8dk0iJCFYU8AQbXXlobJmTSne+PBlpqYUtFE15VG5jZYWHb0h XCY2W5TSlQflcwjOl1dAgCW2uRN6l/tYf+nDye1syAEwvrPjUsvQ59MGuHp/pte14aV2 Wv5wH5nl/zSygWULDnEoB3MHaY36uBf5/7cj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 07:36:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a7cfc1b271049b6003ed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:36:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a7cfc1b271049b6003ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? Seeking this on behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and real need for it! lol. thanks in advance for your replies. Todd --20cf3054a7cfc1b271049b6003ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? =A0Seeking t= his on behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and real ne= ed for it! lol.=A0

thanks in advance for your replies.= =A0

Todd



--20cf3054a7cfc1b271049b6003ed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 14:48:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA58183482; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lNrFSAT4TR4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=r9kNYETKAAAA:8 a=ZGsXzViTKG5HHaP0I70A:9 a=Z5Do9Wnh4lzdpOu9CrzWMVOkjDsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=XXj62jwV0mIA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 06:48:49 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Todd, I was going to suggest TC Electronics M30 Reverb VST - which they were giving away for free not too long ago. But I see at the link that the giveaway program has expired already. It's not a bad little reverb (not too CPU hungry) and even at $39 would be something I would recommend if I had it to do all over again. At present, I don't know of any other free verbs. Ted On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:36 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? Seeking > this on behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and > real need for it! lol. > > thanks in advance for your replies. > > Todd > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 15:33:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FF95183480; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7zQe5L+xz2HrMv0URHyEsIvhlRBbwVwSk7ulxIWR0mk=; b=AfCGJ+kT4RVHb106Hbv0eu3TabP76Oor12fbyhahWrgHR2p2fv3NrvktOJAfXQbpNZ M+eJPieyO6GIFbbhd37EhBl/V+hooPXl1uBakOqEEddDaYWxlFAoXgJI/0c5wyDSxL6p 2VcAkb0wzokh2VL08hjlCDsFSHrT0EW8L2EK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eMXKUVu0hiSfcTiYdJiDIeBo6US2J9KLDEFC9aHWD0tuC92H6V4obqorzWip/GlsBP eBZCMm1xvbWoXU8MN2ZlZcXX64nUYR22F+nPLgjeY++hRqhim0sA7l66WXLJzHmyuav+ kFIjw1scTEH0uCvlCwE1p92wioSOL5vDhYt9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549e53c5a98b049b627b6d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:33:14 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549e53c5a98b049b627b6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Libraries/Freeverb.shtml On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:36 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? Seeking this on > behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and real need for > it! lol. > > thanks in advance for your replies. > > Todd > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --20cf30549e53c5a98b049b627b6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Libraries/Freeverb.shtml


On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:36 AM, tod= d reynolds <todd= reyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone use a free verb that they'r= e comfortable with? =A0Seeking this on behalf of a student of mine with no = bread to throw at it and real need for it! lol.=A0

thanks in advance for your replies.=A0

Todd


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--20cf30549e53c5a98b049b627b6d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 15:40:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DA50183477; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:40:37 UTC Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:32:29 +0000 (UTC) From: eddrake1@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15927_1174940139.1296747149589" X-Originating-IP: [98.140.184.254] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:40:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15927_1174940139.1296747149589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm at work now and can't find the exact links but try googling free mac vst and you'll come up with a bunch of hits. I use Audio Units exclusively myself but there are a bunch of free effects that come in both forms (AU and VST). I know TAL has some free reverb effects and there's one called Ambience that's nice. I can get more info later when i'm home if you still need it. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "todd reynolds" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:36:08 AM Subject: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? Seeking this on behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and real need for it! lol. thanks in advance for your replies. Todd ------=_Part_15927_1174940139.1296747149589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I'm at wo= rk now and can't find the exact links but try googling free mac vst and you= 'll come up with a bunch of hits. I use Audio Units exclusively myself but = there are a bunch of free effects that come in both forms (AU and VST).
I know TAL has some free reverb effects and there's one cal= led Ambience that's nice.

I can get more info late= r when i'm home if you still need it.


Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "todd re= ynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:36:08 AM
Subject: request for t= he list. a free reverb vst for mac?

Does anyone use a free verb that= they're comfortable with?  Seeking this on behalf of a student of min= e with no bread to throw at it and real need for it! lol. 

thanks in advance for your replies. 

Todd



------=_Part_15927_1174940139.1296747149589-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 15:43:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08D718347D; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AiQ82c2NIOhtRf4Mkv7y0nU8C2tO/VynY4vZe4ifKpw=; b=sQa68E1GL5Qe5gSvFS8XZCi80LZ1WK2n0tXH8R/wLzOo8DymXC13SPYwGzUS8No1p0 GNWoFwJTr2OJB6P6CnwegMxFZGa8kLxCGJOgyCBe5HNJK90BNyiOI+9nhzrpCahF1gD9 bFdZFoxigmjFNHM+Hrs4r9HrNuCBtXcbuhZkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IJ44FkIeVJqY3ylmt4VjpEVkUPK+cq0szYmlj28uGnl/05PAogvDwWQt8ihR+2Ek4H GhCoVsCSNCVuj6+ej7O/Hg3beMLDxLWlasXOxTIYN7XDG05p66rbiLnS/JIhiGp0HXdw VAbZrRlAEH9dJz/cT/D24JuBAgGxfsGhFshxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:43:35 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? From: Pawel Janowski To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362847b8e65e52049b62a0ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:43:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016362847b8e65e52049b62a0ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is also the Anwida Soft DX Reverb Light, which is a pretty decent free reverb avaikable for Mac Pawel On 3 February 2011 15:32, wrote: > I'm at work now and can't find the exact links but try googling free mac > vst and you'll come up with a bunch of hits. I use Audio Units exclusively > myself but there are a bunch of free effects that come in both forms (AU and > VST). > > I know TAL has some free reverb effects and there's one called Ambience > that's nice. > > I can get more info later when i'm home if you still need it. > > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "todd reynolds" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:36:08 AM > Subject: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? > > Does anyone use a free verb that they're comfortable with? Seeking this on > behalf of a student of mine with no bread to throw at it and real need for > it! lol. > > thanks in advance for your replies. > > Todd > > > > --0016362847b8e65e52049b62a0ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is also the Anwida Soft DX Reverb Light, which is a pretty decen= t free reverb avaikable for Mac
=A0
Pawel

On 3 February 2011 15:32, <= eddrake1@comcast.net>= wrote:
I'm = at work now and can't find the exact links but try googling free mac vs= t and you'll come up with a bunch of hits. I use Audio Units exclusivel= y myself but there are a bunch of free effects that come in both forms (AU = and VST).=20

I know TAL has some free reverb effects and there's one called Amb= ience that's nice.

I can get more info later when i'm home if you still need it.


Ed=20


----- Original Message -----
From: "todd reynolds" <toddreyn@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:36:08 AM
Subject: request for the lis= t. a free reverb vst for mac?

Does anyone use a free verb that they&= #39;re comfortable with? =A0Seeking this on behalf of a student of mine wit= h no bread to throw at it and real need for it! lol.=A0=20

thanks in advance for your replies.=A0

Todd



=

--0016362847b8e65e52049b62a0ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 18:01:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E68DF18345C; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 323975.8992.bm@omp1036.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296756104; bh=YZ8tb/ErWpqYCDSh7BC1l0+uABd6bmzSFj8A85R6yPM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0Dst+W/IqQ99OVYQ2VNv9PEPPvYfeS4dl7edHwxiLl2pDgitHK9LOlfAcm3AwZjmIqtZ3FSCDoRGJ7KU5Xn5nu9d15SYxQp18jCYXaezSjnFOcMWiJTP0OixEwG15OfkE+moTZ6MHKDc/lza5Xd0CD2vAWWy4Or6QCfOcwXKc28= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GDUzOy14ggTL/4Beo6S6cfaQ8Jl7A0RqQVnO3fZu3rpzj3+JevLIBg3y6c/EDIovpCS9cTwwhTYWCJyBSXFVTIQvsVU9uRdXZcCDBZFctHvVvHSrPvVVNMrmqdPDyJToZekx2sGEyX0K1EhZ7aDE39PuxcxsqAMLTjQbj3JpjUM=; Message-ID: <17455.3658.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Iy8duAYVM1lnM1SZHxgAs61y0LgqP5EVXe1sw8fmb.AsAQ6 FLfuk_033D_zfMOzr6Hwcg9Fc4lhRu2SObTl62lQoh_gDGTxIyk0PYyM_4W8 fAR7kYkIc_dP_4RmHeyko5IOBhQ2KAhaOiij0EbocUO50sCSiFv0EVzWNXJt XAkan7mU7gBhOydc5UHDCA9R2O_OBnmAmMmgq40KYgKefb21NchAx9.gZPym FdB0a.rL2I9jrkw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <57658.86289.qm@web59705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4A9F85.7030102@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4A9F85.7030102@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:01:45 +0000 (UTC) >> What??? That's no joke son! All your base are belong to the LP-1! > >errrr, to be completely accurate, you haven't been completely thorough in >reading my posts, Doug. [Note to self: you forgot the ROFL in that message. Dang, remembered in the other messages...!] Umm... Guess you don't know me...? If you are completely thorough in reading *my* posts, I believe you will see that I am typically irreverent, a clown, a heckler, etc... Somebody has to be John Duval and Hell Pope Huey over here...! Heehee! Regards, Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 18:09:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F5EA183459; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RgPscgvrY0L3XlILLepaA/hZgM/KTX60F3c50H+2ZP8=; b=jxofdiiyqXPiOI3CI5dGX0MoXSBES/8qbXK4jPeo9q/gdx70GlKfBmUrK+misF3b6Q LpsHwCmTDUoyQBN82dZsog5qzL3pXvjw1RqNHohq4VmTYSIiKKgEFn/jnC7uQO4g1PV8 Zec9LqCs0G/bu9L5P1jnLriZi0XU7RHRKXCvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=bE1LW9w7U1285f6w/hI5n+ZrRP8EhFUec68dsNnhKlVhSCU1/ldh8FdTtdoWaHhZ5W oX9FrhZPBIECfBJJ0ZZw9v/zBXez1VLf4CrgJrMJsAeAr45f7YgH/tmaTUsyz0ipVs1F sdcVyhgOr/fS338HhDldrNeRur68amsccLGRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a431a9bddc049b64aa49 Resent-Message-ID: <5MAk_D.A.AdE.a9uSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:09:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a431a9bddc049b64aa49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks to you all for your replies! Checking them all out. I'm using this in Max/MSP which is why I'm using only a VST. All the best! Todd Reynolds On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Pawel Janowski wrote: > There is also the Anwida Soft DX Reverb Light, which is a pretty decent > free reverb avaikable for Mac > > --001636c5a431a9bddc049b64aa49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to you all for your replies! =A0Checking them all out.=A0

I'm using this in Max/MSP which is why I'm using only a VS= T.=A0

All the best!=A0

To= dd Reynolds

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Pawel Janow= ski <pjanowski@= gmail.com> wrote:
There is also the Anwida Soft DX Reverb Light, which is a pretty decen= t free reverb avaikable for Mac


--001636c5a431a9bddc049b64aa49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 18:40:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 883DE18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j4z7eub7hIhJC0xKaWbnFaZbJEjo/VP8+m/AEgEUWnQ=; b=Pzsrp/NI63FDz/6aWTLTOxlGq3YHt12ZPm+kuPIJvqobncfk1QIrk/FxxyMgwOLk21 MTCxCj3L2bmVvOO7Q6a3vO9RecVu7mDGLyGgqA6u+Hw9sm/IvziU6NCIBzhFL//JdI+A gWnxVEG0pGwCS5OZ1JmCZyCrC26kc06vOlacA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WifIdXeSu1e2GDLa5HSkRs89K6ioptqHAJzGIBr/pLOc+5/D3A+jKx9QCp8sTo0HnO S6PVf6YFBTGx+I4GoBuj9csyRw4YFlu0JGcu4UjyJHxNvMTKmluvomEVeiwcjGRpFPrL irMqZhkHRv2rWFmvHYyD0WEysA810ZxzysnYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:40:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023547c9be12c339f049b6610df Resent-Message-ID: <39YHOB.A.U_.IbwSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:49:28 +0000 (UTC) --0023547c9be12c339f049b6610df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 for long reverbs as well, per? On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Didn't see anyone recommending PSP Pianoverb. A fav of mine, low CPU > consumption and can be tweaked to sound very good IMHO. > > --0023547c9be12c339f049b6610df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for long reverbs as well, per?


On Th= u, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Didn't see anyone recommending PSP Pianoverb. A fav of mine, low CPU consumption and can be tweaked to sound very good IMHO.

--0023547c9be12c339f049b6610df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 20:21:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB5818345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NhIHhM3KMgrjTu7j8AVuR6e3ona72rh7EJR0yM8hTlA=; b=xC54PY7Wo5yLCQN1JHGT1o1MsnIN+ziIRAxpB6BQX4ZyN/Bbuh2UAVV20d3rRGhyfC C/ZTcPj/w6K2EeQEUQ1q6r2uPlKA6V2rM5iZgu1AlwBpK7wrh7bAZBlI6tnR4Phz8jFY 70tirpKF58k/a6/5PFiQgiHQlG1sNn0mMfAag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e266MYTJFSBDM+zKTRkdWX4rFQXMcIDC9YRXdbqVJpEC6DRuy7alVmsmHPkL8Y3XxY PxEvLWhlCt3gpTSPWjGpAqoOqciE6it10aOTOVdl0/+bp9f0YH67m7+hXl7eGwEQO745 OoprIiN4bkK7OoGv5bdwGciNLXTIndNmtlDB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:21:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I think it's good for long reverb. To be specific it gives me a vibe of some guitar sounds of Abercombie's or (real piano) reverb on a Steve Lacey soprano solo album I once heard. Typically I set it for a long reverb but with dark tone and at a low volume level. The kind of musical reverb that you never actually hear in the mix but that ruins the music if suddenly muted. I was astonished how nice this freebie sounded, but you got to trust your ears ;-) Good for live work because of the low CPU load. (Another good reverb I use live is Breeze from 2C-Audio. But this is not shared for free. Not as good as Aether, from the same dev's, and different than PSP Pianoverb. You can't really compare Pianoverb and Breeze/Aether because they sound so different. Pianoverb has its sound and if you like that it "is good") Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > for long reverbs as well, per? > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Didn't see anyone recommending PSP Pianoverb. A fav of mine, low CPU >> consumption and can be tweaked to sound very good IMHO. >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 21:00:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B35D18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xN81NPs0jlBjOjbzBo2DkGSI25akMDFlFiKBqo528W8=; b=aE/qQ6Q/wQe/lJ8171t7Z2Xvq0SaokY6Lrr/GKiu2vtznHvnFn5R+lPC7PrJhdaSFf jpynMGqJp0eP1J7d6NxUxJ+r/gsQVCejpdpxV2DkX0Se55iYW5xnMZLPmR7JmefqV+y0 OyulgCH+OnfE8MrqU4BuXE/Dot9K7KAxtwNiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=e4ixyeaKMrN7Yi9WvhV58cCa6rmL9uq0W2N4L2YYF3VDaB8R2m0TwsN3sqDCku6M+h Ls4oZa3/2mw5oqwYUPeO4ILuqwAkfyWLna2sBnb2IdYnztHSXk3R4mSMHqwzOdY7Kc73 OMotpGtDG2gE2Feu2qDlF2I861ed3MfEZYrL8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eef065646afa049b670c5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) --001636eef065646afa049b670c5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks per! On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, I think it's good for long reverb. To be specific it gives me a > vibe of some guitar sounds of Abercombie's or (real piano) reverb on a > Steve Lacey soprano solo album I once heard. --001636eef065646afa049b670c5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks per!=A0

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:2= 1 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I think it's good for long reverb. To be specific it gives me a vibe of some guitar sounds of Abercombie's or (real piano) reverb on a<= br> Steve Lacey soprano solo album I once heard.=A0
--001636eef065646afa049b670c5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 21:12:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BC1B18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CsrKr5Cx0EO4UDgJ/6HcWgH/UVrCkrQj4+BBa6O6QqU=; b=Wmg3fpn/0e9gqjxSifoTHED8AJz/vohAiCyAVH9XOYtNqBoJFzsYCi1yI2Fszh+NSf 45jb70xzy854eOypMWxYpc/sGBsDS79Ehwa8tkuSjRPfXbQuE9D4wRFEnLCvLQhdlJYu 9n6+5QHci5MVpn1o+lPgtKU2DjBpSgEDaAq7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MnN6R5fy74kSbm9dViFIJj3Og/b8/+n+RgukGOt2KQwmsk+5cDcEsev5w6dJGpJlqM eSc4lg0lntB55Ch5sy8kiraUOfOMMV/QXyGxX7915/buXdhtf2+5GPSfoXfwlxOuvkWF AmAI+2LCatzLReg3VXfKvKjXqAvMjwvw+3jU4= Message-ID: <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:12:22 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:12:25 +0000 (UTC) nemoguitt@aol.com schrieb: > Click here to learn more: - VIDEO - http://bit.ly/if2tAl > > and here: - Product Page - http://bit.ly/hGz2Yq > > this is the M-AUDIO VENOM.....sounds interesting, is small, and $499.00, > if i didn't spend all my money on donuts, i would get one > And what does make this synth special in any way? Or asked differently: with "sounds interesting", do you mean you listened to and played with it, or you think the specs look cool? In that price range, I'd say - get something used: * for a very characteristic and flexible VA sound engine (which does everything the Venom does and much more), get a Waldorf Micro Q * for true analog, get an Oberheim Matrix-1000 * for a VA kinda-workstation with a not exactly nice, but very characteristic (think 80s elektro) sound, get a Quasimidi Sirius * for maximum flexibility, a Clavia Nord MicroModular, * if you need the 12-voice polyphony, Access Virus * for a great soloist's synth with excellent flexibility and playability: Korg Prophecy * ...and the list goes on. Or did I miss something with the Venom that it can do which no other synth can't? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 22:27:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9FC318345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=7Hl4Kt1B3p3WYwBJhfsfBT5EwyJeRZNh2GEhjq93kCU=; b=iRLYzDJFhHMy/0wL+og74cb4zgD+nV+QB2u4cHPybYrw4GFFX6MZJWBxKJLk+HJrm1 tok+C4e3JXFKBdEdydp19WcPbUR+QtZfvla5yzUuSHy/TY+Ch7K90iEjkhiiQCJDfmqw q2UN8pqC4mYv8Tpt1PVEosrjnmqX8Cfy2AgEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=gbRmTDrX8BCdAqZ9vZop7dFZbKG/gtJEEmJ7K5iW/xr8c7hCy/KaUDnDuddpkjTYNZ I+9g7ICAbfbVp2jFGSrgEdfFELj4d/j2MeiWGbYDp+p66duqWA6DfMkK2pni/9SIWOjq CDPAv2yaEp9xP//qvuuWgZ2x6pkMLDgDhhorg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:27:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pwNXyicYRO7kVPA-2h-lr-xlL9w Message-ID: Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496131979e0049b6845c4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:27:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496131979e0049b6845c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh I dont know.. It looks pretty cool to me... all the things you have mention Rainer are my FAVE synths.. but this thing looks like it could do it all.. and did you see??? its cheap.. the Virus is still a pretty pricy synth... I think what you missed is that they have sampled shit loads of synths AND given it a really modern filter section with bit reductions and distortions and stuff.. The only think I HATE HATE HATE the look of is those silly 4 knobs... how insanely irritating... with a synth like that you gonna need at least 10! Or else, whats the point??? Its nice to see a synth with modern sounds IN HARDWARE though... Still no hardware granulation synth AFAIK.. :-(( Mark Young Scoots wrote, nice synth and Rainer responded In that price range, I'd say - get something used: > > * for a very characteristic and flexible VA sound engine (which does > everything the Venom does and much more), get a Waldorf Micro Q > * for true analog, get an Oberheim Matrix-1000 > * for a VA kinda-workstation with a not exactly nice, but very > characteristic (think 80s elektro) sound, get a Quasimidi Sirius > * for maximum flexibility, a Clavia Nord MicroModular, > * if you need the 12-voice polyphony, Access Virus > * for a great soloist's synth with excellent flexibility and > playability: Korg Prophecy > * ...and the list goes on. > > Or did I miss something with the Venom that it can do which no other synth > can't? > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496131979e0049b6845c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh I dont know.. It looks pretty cool to me...=A0 all the things you have m= ention Rainer are my FAVE synths.. but this thing looks like it could do it= all.. and did you see???=A0 its cheap.. the Virus is still a pretty pricy = synth...

I think what you missed is that they have sampled shit loads of synths = AND given it a really modern filter section with bit reductions and distort= ions and stuff..

The only think I HATE HATE HATE the look of is tho= se silly 4 knobs... how insanely irritating... with a synth like that you g= onna need at least 10! Or else, whats the point??? Its nice to see a synth = with modern sounds IN HARDWARE though...

Still no hardware granulation synth AFAIK..

:-((

Mark
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Young Scoots wrote,
nice synth and
=A0Rainer responded

In that price range, I'd say - get something used:

=A0 * for a very characteristic and flexible VA sound engine (which does =A0 =A0 everything the Venom does and much more), get a Waldorf Micro Q =A0 * for true analog, get an Oberheim Matrix-1000
=A0 * for a VA kinda-workstation with a not exactly nice, but very
=A0 =A0 characteristic (think 80s elektro) sound, get a Quasimidi Sirius =A0 * for maximum flexibility, a Clavia Nord MicroModular,
=A0 * if you need the 12-voice polyphony, Access Virus
=A0 * for a great soloist's synth with excellent flexibility and
=A0 =A0 playability: Korg Prophecy
=A0 * ...and the list goes on.

Or did I miss something with the Venom that it can do which no other synth = can't?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

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--20cf305496131979e0049b6845c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 22:36:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD3E1183454; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0ZnriJEe/9JYd+JBX3lb4sjlaLKq/DuKF16i0lsnjlY=; b=Ae+G70PZma4Suig8zyLLym0xS9FACR0pBGB8S/R3sgpQlkuX4QVqcW86a6E5O0S2ua R5c/vopV9yJtev2IQeCzXWGHzaN1RjG/o0Rh5pC3Wx87+b9g6MuL9+t6oEqnara+FlGQ NuYXvl6G8+8XQ4LlJppxcm6+WsvFeooOet5no= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lXhiF0iSP0ZoJvqtYwrXhLE3IY8iPM245hRh5+NEOHwzRps0G1lZzxqXY342YEvGF6 cw/jYh2Be/iDrqGZ+YHg9TvhxtNk02xUnuVApqG0In89LZk+FgoIAgj6rFAo1zp1H5ES XnPXfi/IpQyNeAIYw/wV3iyDOyKsGacI8yEIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <25D94390-9171-416D-8534-D21BA3374D49@gmail.com> References: <25D94390-9171-416D-8534-D21BA3374D49@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:36:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_8brOB.A.u9.73ySNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) wooooow!! On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > Todd thats is great buddy,i hope you re doing this thing live,very > nice to hear and quite appealing > you might soon even get sponsored by Mc Millens products;-) > and i love cello i still have hopes to learn it someday. > keep them coming baby! > Luis > > http://vimeo.com/19364422 > > > Thanks Luis! No live shows yet but thats my goal in doing these arrangements > so I can get out there doing shows as soon as possible. It's tough though to > get started. I've been hitting up friends that play out here in Virginia but > I haven't got something nailed down yet. I just finished the next > arrangement last night and I'm gonna make a video of it this weekend. I > realized I've been kinda going through the decades with the first > two....Zeppelin from the 70's, MJ from the 80's, so next is a Radiohead tune > from the 90's. > -Todd Matthews > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:10:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BDB18345C; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296774657; bh=CimsLrAaEIxTKNEzuk81CcJvTgNrSsd1Ri6u2lQHPJc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HRywQGPCtud2Jd0ZL6p6JRZ2rb1+4gyFEHHBZw0V8ltM70tE4aeoNWCjjWYziXGclO7IIoqefiher8+gMXVnYO4Q2nauIdbmLcAViX2Kag+hfJtuGc3d318dwkG2tH9sbr4o4HAIlZGS8CQ7lSo1L3TwECQedr4utA3nxzBl5xs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eV9A24yVvep462NKnTJjvBzgvo8nsJ0kWd7xzo7OtJIFb3lYW0LB1gDms9zZwaSffoCtz2kQZStlOzpTXNXJaXllCncnfR8tz5HwxjczBEfxnhhylEGSXoK+MfPp0p5gCDy0lwMdnk+r+0tz7M94NC09WsMKfNE76p8Fm0P/Igc=; Message-ID: <594700.59962.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5ywVKaoVM1maV6wQtWg3RiotWloYzQVOurKzv9Igk_WTfg_ AXebkiZdG.dYSRDWNkkS8GkWvNC2i7OTSzXOAe8oD30yoOovt9wp7IyoCV4J uzTX4XGR4QcQ5yAeg0hk08HR4HyLKAsNc5fOaVJPkSVB0_J2RyI1WTgsOBqZ BInLBHqnxDlJRXckKVEM8kmoUU24xhd.V_IQuacPCf4mFqX1XH2artRoz04K 2qHIqRRSKMSI_1Zc6VZvyNl1xyd1xQ7b5gqiGGW8qzFFes8dArU_IYjD_5OU R0YDBy4ovUh9bBEleu8wWnNMyrIp0JJzEKCNKlHAKp6SnBO3SBaWByI3TtBJ xyceghkVnoy4eEJZZ6rsV_zK7x3BzSGfgyinRBFkAjHG3FVvWoO0XYSWkhHp 8 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:10:57 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Right on Todd! -just curious if you've heard this guy before, he's got a pretty cool double bass cover of Billie Jean, not 'live looping' (though he is also a pretty cool looper if you check some of his other vids) Adam Ben Ezra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUcNog20lng --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Louie Angulo wrote: > From: Louie Angulo > Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 2:36 PM > wooooow!! > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:02 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > > > Todd thats is great buddy,i hope you re doing this > thing live,very > > nice to hear and quite appealing > > you might soon even get sponsored by Mc Millens > products;-) > > and i love cello i still have hopes to learn it > someday. > > keep them coming baby! > > Luis > > > > http://vimeo.com/19364422 > > > > > > Thanks Luis! No live shows yet but thats my goal in > doing these arrangements > > so I can get out there doing shows as soon as > possible. It's tough though to > > get started. I've been hitting up friends that play > out here in Virginia but > > I haven't got something nailed down yet. I just > finished the next > > arrangement last night and I'm gonna make a video of > it this weekend. I > > realized I've been kinda going through the decades > with the first > > two....Zeppelin from the 70's, MJ from the 80's, so > next is a Radiohead tune > > from the 90's. > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:13:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE24E18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4B36A0.9030708@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:13:36 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Wellington CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today References: <17455.3658.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <17455.3658.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:13:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Doug Wellington wrote: > Umm... Guess you don't know me...? If you are completely thorough in reading > *my* posts, I believe you will see that I am typically irreverent, a clown, a > heckler, etc... Somebody has to be John Duval and Hell Pope Huey over here...! > Heehee! > > > Regards, > > Doug > It's too bad that there aren't separate fonts (or emoticoms) for sarcasm or parody. Sorry I missed it the good natured poke, Doug. I do have the ability to laugh at my self, honest..........ROFLMFAO!!!!! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:34:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81DBF18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 251117.70887.bm@omp1065.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296776049; bh=oDUEA7yTQoQEgICNXRsIa37BwpYJih/jssljBych8no=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=il1hFKsXxfHgkei9HZRvi2Pxv/00XkbIqC5iMWUHA0+j586WHxJboQfXeGW5KbxmJJI3loVhwlGWiKtbOQO5ycC3ITjOEC1ihrAy+VSEvcttauVyQXd4xsS0znKJJQZAej5vuO8DvTI4YHaBUOJ1/szU60bukDWym5oyja/omGc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L9/1eG7Y9gC2iKszxRTu428The2dpzlFd5UyvBBhf+5ralfRz3MKTaFy5XTLbT17Dk1yVIGkpC17LQuG52NSbY3PjBpza5QLlnNoNJdPngFvvWpdiIWnnxVrHqKlm5UQujm6TRVef5KCvOxGenlpXB8R3iT0q7O6ppvRkr1sMeo=; Message-ID: <30680.81337.qm@web59709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YhZo5wcVM1mtaCWyXZ.yjRZ8lqckwkZYDwoXw3ntRILljYa Kr7NYFy3tffoWTA32i63e5ZwGSvZztUhi4Cix858.jQM5SLI0hkhT4difZUU jorLG.JrygyMXbsrSTnaV2hiNqXGLp6vlNtIQ8.Go4IcqVILY4yRM.9N3SEl AFYD4aeVwpif777vm0Pn0wE2pCSmjmFY1Xqmu2.81w0a6uxjvCt5B0GFWhm9 osNIiydDIgGhBnqoJc53rSU0i9nTiTDSFy5mWoDRgjsJ.9h4QCOTXOAFKC7e OVTus2rujrSreF6v97L12wlWJPFwDZOQc1T_ibOSv3QcPIKhquQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <17455.3658.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4B36A0.9030708@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:34:08 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: Re: Re: PLEASE EDIT YOUR REPLIES! 8 Daily Digests today To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4B36A0.9030708@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:34:10 +0000 (UTC) > It's too bad that there aren't separate fonts (or emoticoms) for sarcasm or >parody. [serious moment] Indeed... [/serious moment] By the way, what are we, on Facebook or Twitter or likesuchas? It's not "emoticon", it's "smiley" dammit!!! LOL! (Yeah, I'm old...) > Sorry I missed it the good natured poke, Doug. > I do have the ability to laugh at my self, honest..........ROFLMFAO!!!!! No worries, mate! :D But the LP-1 *is* the one looper to rule them all! :P Dougster From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:44:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C4C18345C; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wa6dt6ta7sfEOdYN7SzbgVzDrQS7t1nFEMIradMedfU=; b=qVLz9tJ/HBdgmDwCn0mCrf19CBJ3iQuZmlFJNuOwwvZoH6vV0DmIy84ePDmq6iioQv Phi2LaeKARpLBjkOCh4rkJgj8YvXDz8PmLujxYbkZLKvLGQ6kOgnLGwe1R2BCJineVB5 rX580FRkRVyf+szFBBEnqy95U+pWdPQI3/UhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sqhWM+fFWrF6uKLsz4Zrywx50c5UxWXi2M1wJxZ2mdtc+ogO3vxSrKFnkpc2eWUWe0 IAvw3k6OHroyGOdjvdAjx5sCea6xX9TmXL9cR8MYPVhEhrCWadSlKkM8Jx+YXFe4aW5T +IfXuV6ImP9MGfHg9iF79i/qVpZYbyI2MISus= Message-ID: <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:44:43 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:44:45 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > Oh I dont know.. It looks pretty cool to me... all the things you > have mention Rainer are my FAVE synths.. but this thing looks like it > could do it all.. and did you see??? its cheap.. the Virus is still a > pretty pricy synth... I have to admit, I don't have any experience with or knowledge of details of the Virus. The only thing I know is that a) a lot of people used/use them, b) according to ebay, a Virus A can be had for below $499. > I think what you missed is that they have sampled shit loads of synths > AND given it a really modern filter section with bit reductions and > distortions and stuff.. Yes, I missed that, both in the product description and in the manual. Both are not very precise about this...like for the oscillators: "You get 41 oscillator waves and 53 drum sounds sampled from the most awesome vintage keyboards of the past four decades" Ok, that's hardly "shit loads"...then, in the manual, it talks about oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. I'd hardly see the filter section as impressive, and the same is true for the effects. > The only think I HATE HATE HATE the look of is those silly 4 knobs... > how insanely irritating... with a synth like that you gonna need at > least 10! Or else, whats the point??? Its nice to see a synth with > modern sounds IN HARDWARE though... It depends on what you do with it. The Korg Prophecy has 4 knobs, too, and it works fine. And the mighty Oberheim XPander had 6, and what fun you can have with those! The problem here seems that it's lacking a proper modulation matrix. > Still no hardware granulation synth AFAIK.. How many grains do you need? The Kurzweils can do a fairly fun job, if used properly... Summarizing: I need to note again that I, too, didn't hear that synth so this is all just talk based on the specs and manual. However, what I fail to see is why this synth would exactly be a very good bang for the buck - and I'm wondering what the target market is. For a synth freak, any of my suggestions would be better value for your money, imo. And for a beginner that needs a cheap first synth, I'd rather go with an E-mu short/longboard (but this may also have to do with the fact that back in its day, I was deeply fond of E-mu's Proteus). Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:47:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 626BD18345E; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=OKKsQzjU9D1HoW7Eu63jND7VKCibOa05H8bRF5d8E40=; b=ZWaL+a1PFerGtR3uK5gc1eUu87dCJ+3VHbOfCQ22nKPIdVAgRnBN4otM9BfXl8NnY/ k0eqsd6eLPuy3rMDWMUOVCGmvx85kOd9sKzK6Ep3uGImORe43ds+TEM4wdFFeCwwY9I8 XH8jKXKDQ76MQStTl25cb52XmYp3pcncDi6dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ZY1xI6E1UE6nsmNErU/bomFzK+owggF1W2CFzW8mRE7JaxFLf+GcJZ8/JvVsViiN0h u2Zfu7AUOOxDvhdXm/ODagcuODQjyK6sJCVX57al0O5xj6AMe5iCxjcR+j7BDKUeWMtZ rjZwQjOVc2GUMAfL5iLCiWS9O8/Vge4EvwcPk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Michael Jackson looped on Double Bass From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <594700.59962.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:47:24 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <594700.59962.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Steve. Yeah, just a couple days ago somebody bought my attention = to that. He's a really great bassist and his vid is way funnier! I = didn't realize I should to do a google search before I do cover tunes on = the double bass:) ....At least we chose different keys:) Did a search = for the radiohead tune I wanna do this weekend and at least as of today = I won't be steppin on any bassists' toes :)=20 Back to woodsheddin' On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Steve Uccello wrote: > Right on Todd! -just curious if you've heard this guy before, he's got = a pretty cool double bass cover of Billie Jean, not 'live looping' = (though he is also a pretty cool looper if you check some of his other = vids)=20 >=20 > Adam Ben Ezra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeUcNog20lng=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:52:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF198183479; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mi5wLMKqI+W++8qDj0PF1gIwkcdZ1YS9R7wwPUICblw=; b=WGWwY4hnz+n2LulNMcCaV8AQgQaMtqoZZuED3+HH+JTc/U4G6pg0d1K6mAn6NaU6tm 2utxYdrNsNA2QsOmJtaSjpS6JqIbvqVdXTgvgeZ0fQ0jdEaEIkTpn/F4b5MMVc2D/opU ZhItB6kC2AcIAO6j8qiStkw9s4NTB7eDgicu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vSgL4v4o59fxB0Y7p4zmgV0QbtpiEqMBf1Q+bVdbz0K45rrVTXdCnoQ6Fh74hLPw+6 57gDtEsvQ/w3vZmHMvUkQGww1/b8VkUVtuLuWrrJdxW8Ae+1hG4SxTCIBFIuE8rU2aPe p/XlBBiqueIw5YExnh8sqS7mVdCGGJRpGcALg= References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 00:51:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4117252309969443487@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <44MTZD.A.p1E.f-zSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:51:59 +0000 (UTC) I have to admit that when I hear the word awesome I generally tune out. Didn't hear it?? Did you watch the video? Too much talk from awesome geezers of course, but sounded pretty ok to me... Bit Like a virus tho... Did you read bad modulation somewhere? Hmmm I heard some very modular-ish modulations going on a few times, maybe it was just sequenced? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Feb 2011, at 00:44, Rainer Straschill wrote= : > mark francombe schrieb: >> Oh I dont know.. It looks pretty cool to me... all the things you have = mention Rainer are my FAVE synths.. but this thing looks like it could do i= t all.. and did you see??? its cheap.. the Virus is still a pretty pricy s= ynth... > I have to admit, I don't have any experience with or knowledge of details= of the Virus. The only thing I know is that a) a lot of people used/use th= em, b) according to ebay, a Virus A can be had for below $499. >> I think what you missed is that they have sampled shit loads of synths A= ND given it a really modern filter section with bit reductions and distorti= ons and stuff.. > Yes, I missed that, both in the product description and in the manual. Bo= th are not very precise about this...like for the oscillators: > "You get 41 oscillator waves and 53 drum sounds sampled from the most awe= some vintage keyboards of the past four decades" > Ok, that's hardly "shit loads"...then, in the manual, it talks about osci= llator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. > > I'd hardly see the filter section as impressive, and the same is true for= the effects. >> The only think I HATE HATE HATE the look of is those silly 4 knobs... ho= w insanely irritating... with a synth like that you gonna need at least 10!= Or else, whats the point??? Its nice to see a synth with modern sounds IN = HARDWARE though... > It depends on what you do with it. The Korg Prophecy has 4 knobs, too, an= d it works fine. And the mighty Oberheim XPander had 6, and what fun you ca= n have with those! The problem here seems that it's lacking a proper modula= tion matrix. >> Still no hardware granulation synth AFAIK.. > How many grains do you need? The Kurzweils can do a fairly fun job, if us= ed properly... > > Summarizing: I need to note again that I, too, didn't hear that synth so = this is all just talk based on the specs and manual. However, what I fail t= o see is why this synth would exactly be a very good bang for the buck - an= d I'm wondering what the target market is. For a synth freak, any of my sug= gestions would be better value for your money, imo. And for a beginner that= needs a cheap first synth, I'd rather go with an E-mu short/longboard (but= this may also have to do with the fact that back in its day, I was deeply = fond of E-mu's Proteus). > > Rainer > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 3 23:52:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ABEB183482; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296777148; bh=UbpN40103PEtPMyNLISJTHaqcKMX/OZ4lqrIRjR3AIo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VyIOFwD6C1I1KufRuMe3df7qDHwx23bKsGV4hC0YuSehRnaHmGs6lPb/VqBA6mnQT+M1VBKGSRweEHebwI8zrGAR/adPIk+p+KvT5KjePgaqOFYvtizPaRQNomqLDegMSE+/F/9SfeEoV6PwsmFSbPFH1+3BBxEhm2bT5aOnHlc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1jExGZTYJWPqYhiWuyKo1xuA6MHnFufuHSn2h2tISI4QppbUS+UkizqG9mb8MbPCN1uRJynYXRq2iLrjsGi8APtQxm5QaMDm82QuZuFia/M2JbjkLJYcmKk0UZUSCdT5VvTWn3RfDhNWDXe0HEbGPvE3sTvYOFbgnLaoYUima+g=; Message-ID: <276875.95494.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hPi60FwVM1laYySbcrHxnmwu0nD.3Ciwh3FQX0iZtXReSQh 2WysidCX3J3zZp9wp3gGrIewGiNb5luW8pAb5hgoFzTtQQkIVZfCXRfHETAq vicoETnQl0GhmqRW9abG0ePfKr1Qzt4kpQA52rqKlKe_T1WK0tzqfGfGF7LJ KIFQZw6h9brGUqWgpocAEjX8J9w5CQMM7twT831ZoaKDCqI6PKKk3zH4WGfv UHwNiXOb.o5UdcARuU_IwJ42J_VrMqIS.4iTkGpNLcBIXfg.LJv59P8EhDlR pDEZ9mbVa1rgDnRNSrYLwc9mEhbLukIG0CjFRO3ZONd7v4XUIMe4IOTclQL4 PSc3kUOvJLPF194Z3ZLYDydmsAbMg8Amx0HADQurF2_c5fkPsBYTfkw0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:52:28 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-730157709-1296777148=:95494" Resent-Message-ID: <6maHIC.A.g6E.9-zSNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:52:29 +0000 (UTC) --0-730157709-1296777148=:95494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without someone j= umping on ones nuts! Hehehe.... --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Rainer Straschill wrote: From: Rainer Straschill Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 4:12 PM nemoguitt@aol.com schrieb: > Click here to learn more: - VIDEO - http://bit.ly/if2tAl >=20 > and here: - Product Page - http://bit.ly/hGz2Yq >=20 > this is the M-AUDIO VENOM.....sounds interesting, is small, and $499.00, > if i didn't spend all my money on donuts, i would get one >=A0=A0=A0 And what does make this synth special in any way? Or asked differently: wit= h "sounds interesting", do you mean you listened to and played with it, or = you think the specs look cool? In that price range, I'd say - get something used: =A0=A0=A0* for a very characteristic and flexible VA sound engine (which do= es =A0 =A0=A0=A0everything the Venom does and much more), get a Waldorf Micro = Q =A0=A0=A0* for true analog, get an Oberheim Matrix-1000 =A0=A0=A0* for a VA kinda-workstation with a not exactly nice, but very =A0 =A0=A0=A0characteristic (think 80s elektro) sound, get a Quasimidi Siri= us =A0=A0=A0* for maximum flexibility, a Clavia Nord MicroModular, =A0=A0=A0* if you need the 12-voice polyphony, Access Virus =A0=A0=A0* for a great soloist's synth with excellent flexibility and =A0 =A0=A0=A0playability: Korg Prophecy =A0=A0=A0* ...and the list goes on. Or did I miss something with the Venom that it can do which no other synth = can't? =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs =0A=0A=0A --0-730157709-1296777148=:95494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A --0-730157709-1296777148=:95494-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 00:19:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 106A218345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4B461B.5080308@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:19:39 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: todd reynolds CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: COME JOIN PLUGINS.tribe.net to help compile a list of freeware plugs was request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) A few years back I started a tribe at Tribe.net called 'Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous' that was designed, specifically, to ferret out free ware and shareware plugins on all operating systems. There are 768 people in that tribe but it has gone dormant for some time. If you go back to the first archived posts there, there are many threads with tons of links to freeware plugs. The ones I'm posting here are old and, undoubtedly out of date, but some of my oldest VST instruments still work on all my operating systems (at least in PC world) so these can be relevant. At the bottom of this post are several threads that can be useful for lovers of freeware VST instruments. But first: It strikes me that we might put some energy in and kick start this tribe once again. So, here's an invite to join AUDIO PLUGIN JUNKIES ANNONYMOUS at Tribe.net http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/ yours, rick walker ps and a list of plugins that have already been archived: LIST OF FREEWARE SITES http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/f958c2a3-3d42-4c56-98bb-7e2d8ebe08a8 FREE FREE FREE http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/ab413bc4-d098-4090-8780-aeb08bfdff5d FREEWARE DISTORTION PLUGINS http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/816325e1-1459-4425-b28e-eb9a04a2ea5f FREEWARE GLITCH PLUGINS http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/0cc36c0d-3552-40a5-aaef-d9e2a5daca91 FREE SYNTH VSTis (Mark Sottilaro started this thread) http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/e87970b3-bf3a-4cb6-8597-c8d16957d493 LIST OF LOOPING PLUGINS (Krispen Hartung compiled this list from L.D. posts) http://PLUGINS.tribe.net/thread/2e3279d2-a141-4529-8d7c-ebd4efdcca6d From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 01:09:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9186618345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:09:31 +0900 Subject: Re: inexpensive synth From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: inexpensive synth Thread-Index: AcvECC1cKPjQtO/1S+Ou4K8W2nBKvw== In-Reply-To: <276875.95494.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3379658975_827084" Resent-Message-ID: <3g_Wk.A.1XH.TH1SNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:09:39 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3379658975_827084 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 2/4/11 8:52 AM, "Paul Richards" wrote: > > Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without someone jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe.... Paul, Sincerely hoping that the =B3Hehehe....=B2 at the end of your post means that it=B9s entirely tongue-in-cheek. Otherwise, I=B9m sure you=B9ve been around here long enough to know that Rainer isn=B9t posting this in any sort of mean-spirited way =8B it=B9s merely his style to be completely accurate and truthful in his facts, which is not a bad thing in anyone=B9s eyes. Sometimes he can come off as a bit too, er, straightforward (some would say =B3blunt=B2) in the presentation of his data. However, I=B9ve *never* seen him post anything in a way that was deliberately hurtful to the person who made the original query. That=B9s merely his style= . He=B9s always ready to give helpful information where it=B9s needed and, frankly, is one of the most knowledgeable and forthcoming resources on here= . =8CCourse, I think you=B9re already aware of all that. However, if there=B9s anyone new to the list reading this, don=B9t want them to get the wrong impression early in the game. --m. --B_3379658975_827084 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: inexpensive synth On 2/4/11 8:5= 2 AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote: >
> Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without some= one jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe....

Paul,

Sincerely hoping that the “Hehehe....” at the end of your post = means that it’s entirely tongue-in-cheek.

Otherwise, I’m sure you’ve been around here long enough to know= that Rainer isn’t posting this in any sort of mean-spirited way ̵= 2; it’s merely his style to be completely accurate and truthful in his= facts, which is not a bad thing in anyone’s eyes.  Sometimes he = can come off as a bit too, er, straightforward (some would say “blunt&= #8221;) in the presentation of his data.  However, I’ve *never* s= een him post anything in a way that was deliberately hurtful to the person w= ho made the original query.  That’s merely his style.  He= 217;s always ready to give helpful information where it’s needed and, = frankly, is one of the most knowledgeable and forthcoming resources on here.=

‘Course, I think you’re already aware of all that.  Howeve= r, if there’s anyone new to the list reading this, don’t want th= em to get the wrong impression early in the game.

        --m.
 --B_3379658975_827084-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 01:13:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8184018345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296781992; bh=62jntpak0UIDY7ou98ffZZNRF9tKKwE4h2dKiSKmq94=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xpFtkSFf3hJl2e515YsuXW+B+LncF8C2+aB1nzsMuf2kCZtUpMxc3TMF1LBDKKw79SKdBC9HlnG5vzB552nwEGX1bZuk2syeyFcnqao37Bac0XGggjG3PS/nvwo/KoN8/NDw5oH93jzU6b9DlkbawUw7cW4rcL2A5HK6QqcRF3Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mXmT8SPXSLS+gAxdmp3iRIRxdeiLSx2K+ybYoroHY+sfiShVe7eivM6EbQW0W8UD2VY87rxQKw/ubSjIjxihlvz+4UcesptRAS2xO0Wg78z3RC0JiCRPzVlMRE9+p9YgeT/8ulKv5tCPoRrVf2CpWSN3SBxwiwANaCSiOoJaN9I=; Message-ID: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BrJLa2kVM1kjcWfbqnPY_7yAhZodZ6vhedk0ddpq51SCn_n D627i7ZbqZ4KkP.FPdaIsbSUV35LGWgah533JBPe9SnkIE_QZpkQWN9m7KIE hNH6K3MXfuHfDQDaOx6UHitvDN_JwTND7fywrikJY63EaRIVAo6gC7rNxPyk 4FLIPVtq1sIMBKIYjuGHRC0iIzFJ9lNBOVJVpRLujzfVG3UTGtT2xIDFwr1M Ukqir9f0FIdhVdmpZ.8t94YCmvG6.NtwPz52CoLmDOKTbHW1VWeLY4Fya5Pf oH1so6DmL6AaQiU5a2bvZEv0DeTZa5YM2TWzsq30HTEgF_.1MbQE8BRwsxBq 1nA9DQc0FNqK.vMp75CACrdMkI_JSy6FceVAtWjWzMo2lYyqXlwo4M7fFsQp B X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:13:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1354352357-1296781992=:75484" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:13:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-1354352357-1296781992=:75484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Holy shit! Now a cronie put a boot up my rear end! Ouch! --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Dustbunnies wrote: From: Dustbunnies Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:09 PM =0A=0ARe: inexpensive synth=0AOn 2/4/11 8:52 AM, "Paul Richards" wrote: =0A> =0A> Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without some= one jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe.... =0A =0APaul, =0A =0ASincerely hoping that the =E2=80=9CHehehe....=E2=80=9D at the end of you= r post means that it=E2=80=99s entirely tongue-in-cheek. =0A =0AOtherwise, I=E2=80=99m sure you=E2=80=99ve been around here long enough = to know that Rainer isn=E2=80=99t posting this in any sort of mean-spirited= way =E2=80=94 it=E2=80=99s merely his style to be completely accurate and = truthful in his facts, which is not a bad thing in anyone=E2=80=99s eyes. = =C2=A0Sometimes he can come off as a bit too, er, straightforward (some wou= ld say =E2=80=9Cblunt=E2=80=9D) in the presentation of his data. =C2=A0Howe= ver, I=E2=80=99ve *never* seen him post anything in a way that was delibera= tely hurtful to the person who made the original query. =C2=A0That=E2=80=99= s merely his style. =C2=A0He=E2=80=99s always ready to give helpful informa= tion where it=E2=80=99s needed and, frankly, is one of the most knowledgeab= le and forthcoming resources on here. =0A =0A=E2=80=98Course, I think you=E2=80=99re already aware of all that. =C2= =A0However, if there=E2=80=99s anyone new to the list reading this, don=E2= =80=99t want them to get the wrong impression early in the game. =0A =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0--m. =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1354352357-1296781992=:75484 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an = opinion here without someone jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe....

--- On= Thu, 2/3/11, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Rainer Straschill <moin= sound@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 4:12 PM
=
nemoguitt@aol.com schrieb:
&= gt; Click here to learn more: - VIDEO - http://bit.ly/if2tAl
>
> and here: - Produ= ct Page - http://bit.ly/= hGz2Yq
>
> this is the M-AUDIO VENOM.....sounds interesting, is small, and $= 499.00,
> if i didn't spend all my money on donuts, i would get one>   
And what does make this synth special in any wa= y? Or asked differently: with "sounds interesting", do you mean you listene= d to and played with it, or you think the specs look cool?

In that p= rice range, I'd say - get something used:

   * for a = very characteristic and flexible VA sound engine (which does
  &nbs= p;  everything the Venom does and much more), get a Waldorf Micro= Q
   * for true analog, get an Oberheim Matrix-1000
&= nbsp;  * for a VA kinda-workstation with a not exactly nice, but = very
     characteristic (think 80s elektro) sound, = get a Quasimidi Sirius
   * for maximum flexibility, a Cl= avia Nord MicroModular,
   * if you need the 12-voice polyphony, Access Virus
   * for a great solois= t's synth with excellent flexibility and
     playab= ility: Korg Prophecy
   * ...and the list goes on.
Or did I miss something with the Venom that it can do which no other synth= can't?

            Rainer

-- <= a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de
F= ollow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs

Holy shit! Now a cronie put a boot up my rear= end! Ouch!

--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net&= gt; wrote:

From: Dustbunnies <me= ch@m3ch.net>
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth
To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:09 PM

=0A=0ARe: inexpensive synth=0AOn 2/4/11 8:52 = AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
=0A>=0A> Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without= someone jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe....
=0A
=0APaul,
=0A
=0AS= incerely hoping that the =E2=80=9CHehehe....=E2=80=9D at the end of your po= st means that it=E2=80=99s entirely tongue-in-cheek.
=0A
=0AOtherwise= , I=E2=80=99m sure you=E2=80=99ve been around here long enough to know that= Rainer isn=E2=80=99t posting this in any sort of mean-spirited way =E2=80= =94 it=E2=80=99s merely his style to be completely accurate and truthful in= his facts, which is not a bad thing in anyone=E2=80=99s eyes.  Someti= mes he can come off as a bit too, er, straightforward (some would say =E2= =80=9Cblunt=E2=80=9D) in the presentation of his data.  However, I=E2= =80=99ve *never* seen him post anything in a way that was deliberately hurt= ful to the person who made the original query.  That=E2=80=99s merely = his style.  He=E2=80=99s always ready to give helpful information wher= e it=E2=80=99s needed and, frankly, is one of the most knowledgeable and fo= rthcoming resources on here.
=0A
=0A=E2=80=98Course, I think you=E2= =80=99re already aware of all that.  However, if there=E2=80=99s anyon= e new to the list reading this, don=E2=80=99t want them to get the wrong im= pression early in the game.
=0A
=0A     &nbs= p;  --m.
=0A=0A =0A

=0A=0A --0-1354352357-1296781992=:75484-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 01:55:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66D2B183459; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lNrFSAT4TR4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=KMHuAaiZsdiTtkMhuHwA:9 a=MnyoLTItIKVDQaGTQn3MthoFcPcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:55:47 -0800 References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:55:54 +0000 (UTC) I understand, I am using the TC Electronics M30 Reverb VST in Max/MSP also. I've got so many things going on all at once that I needed something with only a modest CPU footprint. On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:09 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > Thanks to you all for your replies! Checking them all out. > > I'm using this in Max/MSP which is why I'm using only a VST. > > All the best! > > Todd Reynolds > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Pawel Janowski > wrote: > There is also the Anwida Soft DX Reverb Light, which is a pretty > decent free reverb avaikable for Mac From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 01:59:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E13A18345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4B5D7C.3020901@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:59:24 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 01:59:28 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Danish artist Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Absorbed in Dreams and Yearning" by Nattefrost on Groove Unlimited. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 02:16:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 816A618345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 02:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3p6LV8ep57S9RDYOyqt20K3WoqPEO+e6/OBWBUJVO4Q=; b=xFhjNxoLPoXqx6tlBodtvcoLw/DSLY2KrQQ7nTfSExThFVHayBcMcsuZi2NKyYexBP LPz6i0uEfJbXyclAFhKy6tQ2f1tVy5wcw/o9kOJnkJlb35jFe6vpfiS22yHY77ug1Ah9 48C5biAPy5Cdbgaeoy4e9KdLvOLfgfbxc9XDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QrpQBZOqlTzQHdZlIXnBJ46WbMPnWDQIiG5XrXtxFDKMB+0CluAowghDXXTV8yrR9T Kmjuv2Mesbzu1hlaIligsfR3nYJkHACVjtoVqXAuGAOnqgB5pCpzc1xQtPmn8RNACcpA JZ8HyG3lLP/0Hn0PY++0GLXOiRAbGe5TNUTFc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <853959.15670.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <2C65543F-E7DB-4F5D-8D23-19B99C77B683@1800dialword.com> <853959.15670.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 21:16:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 02:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Hey Everyone, thanks you all so much for your input! You have given me some great ideas and a lot of interesting options to think about. Best Regards, John Singletary On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:29 PM, wrote: > LP1 LP1 LP1 > or Elektron Oktotrack if that turns out to do what they it shoud do > http://www.elektron.se/products/octatrack > Antony > ________________________________ > From: Andy Owens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:30:00 PM > Subject: Re: Beginning Looper Seeking Advice > > Also, you could use the EHX 2880 and do almost the same thing but only fo= ur > channels but full complete midi control of the looper available. More aud= io > mangling with LP1 and not sure about outs on the 2880 > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 12:17 PM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > > Hi John, cool rig idea. I do exactly what you have described with an > Looperlative LP1, a midibuddy pedal, a novation work surface with two oct= ave > keyboard and a small mixer. > If you go that route I can send you my setups too and that will save you > about two years work!! > > Andy Owens > 1-800-AndyOwens > Sent from my iPhone > So the typing might not be my best! > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:14 AM, "John Singletary" > wrote: > > Hello All, I am very new to this forum and page and I find it > absolutely fascinating.=A0 It seems like there are some great musicians > and very creative people here and I am very happy to have found it. > My last studio project was called La Brea and used a very loop based > approach, although it was done in the studio. It was a lush, richly > textural, building and rather cinematic type musical project. Songs > are on myspace at www.myspace.com/labreaband and if you like it I will > send you the album free, just shoot me an email.=A0 After that, I took a > brake from music and worked on my other passion which is photography. > I have become very interested in working on music again and in the > live looping approach but until I found this site I did not know that > many people were doing this besides a few people.=A0 I know next to > nothing about how a looping set up works and have been reading about > different types of gear such as the echoplex, ableton live, etc. I > have the large boss loop station (RC-50) but that will hardly be the > solution to what I would like to do.=A0 All of this is overwhelming and > exciting and I was hoping that based on a brief description of my > goals, some of you more experienced loopers could=A0 at least point me > in the right direction to get me started making live loop based music. > =A0First, I would like to use a range of instruments (guitar, synth, > iphone, chaos pad, drum machines, glockenspiel, whatever) and have the > ability to pick up an instrument, record a loop, put it down, pick up > another instrument and so on.2nd, I need to be able to synch all of > these loops to a set BPM while maintaining the ability for a loop to > have its own type of rotation (meaning one loop going for 4 measures > of 4, one going for 7, one for 3, etc. all simultaneously). 3Rd, I > would like to be able to adjust the volumes of each loop separately > after I play it. 4Th, I would like to be able to have each loop sent > to a different output device (one to a bass cab, another to a guitar > amp and so on). This requires that the loops be isolated and that the > system has enough outputs. I would also like to be able to use foot > pedals to trigger loops. If anyone has even just rudimentary ideas of > how this could be accomplished I would be so extremely grateful.=A0 I > don't just want to mooch off of your hard earned knowledge but I want > to get started making music and experimenting with this stuff and be > able to share my music and things that I learn with this amazing > community. If anyone could help me that would be really wonderful. > Thanks very much. > Best, > > John > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 08:07:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82A45183461; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=3xQUBR8CPM0q8/oqyM+tz2p3mel9fqC+sFAAdBiWmlE=; b=hgurpmxzfZeA8IKxBs7B6z5q/FLTwyOZWaFqR+J3uIgZCcT33XD0AAJiXvdRMipCOd I5Im04f0A6rKhYqz0Ftt/PCl87bE//5sxpDmp7Dx3MBHGvm2Y2L4OUUQYoXDAxaTJi74 jNwVgBg4MiptntRiR3sUDRJ3wuDNJTviLMj9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=kW4uXukI5HoAHDmEdr6Pdj34JKIG3fdYdrLTpgfZaGZUC1OSUOtzzA6zEizEW6dffu fVF3tOy63p+feKi23R7Yv6xVcEyIfjPX/HgGa/BX2pdIevdiHVFFYQlS4ORUEJRFBeDO rVkAiD59cmxUhU9HsVDypM7uytedv0KOHN+7c= References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:06:41 +0100 Message-ID: <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305641d5001ad9049b705e11 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:07:03 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305641d5001ad9049b705e11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Come on, let's have less if this bickering, this ain't a chatroom. We're all grown ups here, and we treat each other with respect and if someone sounds like they just had a go at you, then firstly they probably didn't, if was more likely cultural differences, or irony. We're not all Americans here! Second of all please take up your beef off list. There have been a few punch ups here in the past, but relatively few. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Feb 2011, at 02:13, Paul Richards wrote: Holy shit! Now a cronie put a boot up my rear end! Ouch! --- On *Thu, 2/3/11 , Dustbunnies * wrote: From: Dustbunnies Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:09 PM On 2/4/11 8:52 AM, "Paul Richards" wrote: > > Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without someone jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe.... --20cf305641d5001ad9049b705e11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Come on, let's have less if this b= ickering, this ain't a chatroom. We're all grown ups here, and we t= reat each other with respect and if someone sounds like they just had a go = at you, then firstly they probably didn't, if was more likely cultural = differences, or irony. We're not all Americans here! Second of all plea= se take up your beef off list. There have been a few punch ups here in the = past, but relatively few.=A0


Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 4 Feb 20= 11, at 02:13, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

Holy shit! Now a cronie put a boot up my rear end! Ouch!

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From: Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net>
Subj= ect: Re: inexpensive synth
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= /a>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:09 PM

On 2/= 4/11 8:52 AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_= rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Man, this guy is MEAN! Can't even express an opinion here without = someone jumping on ones nuts! Hehehe....
--20cf305641d5001ad9049b705e11-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 09:41:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF447183466; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 572560343/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIBAA+mPE1YbRJy/2dsb2JhbAAMhAaSOLoIj2OBJIM4dASOOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="572560343" Message-ID: <4D4BC9D4.3060005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:41:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Yes, I think it's good for long reverb. It's FREE just try it folks, even if it's not your exact 'verb today it's a great plug Another option is that FreeVerb is implemented in Bidule ( i think ) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 11:41:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3C3183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=laCiiog5s5ROTTqBSzcfigkwbcbmb1XFQwi7t5iUac0=; b=vMFz4Z5nWX1+Upi9PBTjSehEw8jrJ3VRCTsuVWAEuvZtb6Hv9Qmgzahis80+uiwWP5 a6FvdXQ4BM/SVuf2Ib3agnUBART6w/xUNE8TYLkXPE91xODREg2jXMDEzIr5hNn2U134 23dL9Kn8GyKWwuU7TUZ2QQGoeb3oT+zd7mCvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=PdyR/RN2qL+KuQpGBUWKcXzJf67czMhQzfJoU9ig/T91YUzp42T6a4MVtOXFgktbSQ Ph5GAXsVn+1TL9sQjqjJHADREGdsgCympKoq8NfcbYM+oCR1t2PUZT2qQW7EqKyRC/8c Vlnk/jWrj1clnwcJmi/FNuvIAACz4hMyJw/Zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:41:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tcQIQnH_EW_nSjWFbMWWY6LPQn8 Message-ID: Subject: Latency Problems To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305641d5afaf70049b735c92 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:41:26 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305641d5afaf70049b735c92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Subject says it all. Can someone please tell me how I can reduce this as best as possible. There are 2 issues for me. 1) I cant get a good synch between my hardware gear (modular synth and hardware loopers) 2)I cant play "with feeling" having this slight delay all the time. So... is it just about having a really great sound-card.... get the power externally? Because I admit that I have a very BAD sound-card. The M-Audio Ozone Mini keyboard. But its very convenient for me. I need a little keyboard to play some of my patches, and it provides a few knobs (8) AND is my sound card. IT Also has something it called "direct sound" (do all sound card have this?) Which is really jusrt a straight thru signal. So if Im just looping on the laptop and nothing else, its GREAT!!! I use the laptop just like a Aux send, things that go in there get looped... BUt now I have delved a bit further into tha world of lappy, I find a few things that I would like to use on the whole mix, Stuter Edit for example, but then I must mute "direct sound" and feed a clean/dry signal thru the computer (so that its not ONLY loops that I hear) and the is when I notice the latency. Ive tried reducing it in Audio Mulch, to what its calls 256 (512 is clean but too delayed, its says 11 ms.. not sure if thats right cos it feels a lot more) but at 256, (where I can still percieve a delay) its beginning to get a bit clicky sounding. So.. THE QUESTION: Is it all the soundcard? The Computer system (I have 4gb ram and 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Due Processor) The Host? I use Audio Mulch but could switch to Bidule Help me with this... the hardware rack is licking my ears, whispering dirty thoughts ... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305641d5afaf70049b735c92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Subject says it all.

Can someone please tell me how I can reduce= this as best as possible. There are 2 issues for me.

1) I cant get = a good synch between my hardware gear (modular synth and hardware loopers)<= br>
2)I cant play "with feeling" having this slight delay all the= time.

So... is it just about having a really great sound-card.... g= et the power externally? Because I admit that I have a very BAD sound-card.= The M-Audio Ozone Mini keyboard.
But its very convenient for me. I need a little keyboard to play some of my= patches, and it provides a few knobs (8) AND is my sound card. IT Also has= something it called "direct sound" (do all sound card have this?= ) Which is really jusrt a straight thru signal. So if Im just looping on th= e laptop and nothing else, its GREAT!!! I use the laptop just like a Aux se= nd, things that go in there get looped... BUt now I have delved a bit furth= er into tha world of lappy, I find a few things that I would like to use on= the whole mix, Stuter Edit for example, but then I must mute "direct = sound" and feed a clean/dry signal thru the computer (so that its not = ONLY loops that I hear) and the is when I notice the latency.

Ive tried reducing it in Audio Mulch, to what its calls 256 (512 is cle= an but too delayed, its says 11 ms.. not sure if thats right cos it feels a= lot more) but at 256, (where I can still percieve a delay) its beginning t= o get a bit clicky sounding.


So.. THE QUESTION:
Is it all the soundcard?
The Computer sy= stem (I have 4gb ram and 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Due Processor)
The Host? = I use Audio Mulch but could switch to Bidule

Help me with this... th= e hardware rack is licking my ears, whispering dirty thoughts ...




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
w= ww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
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You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. os. On 4 February 2011 11:41, mark francombe wrote: > The Subject says it all. > > Can someone please tell me how I can reduce this as best as possible. There > are 2 issues for me. > > 1) I cant get a good synch between my hardware gear (modular synth and > hardware loopers) > > 2)I cant play "with feeling" having this slight delay all the time. > > So... is it just about having a really great sound-card.... get the power > externally? Because I admit that I have a very BAD sound-card. The M-Audio > Ozone Mini keyboard. > But its very convenient for me. I need a little keyboard to play some of my > patches, and it provides a few knobs (8) AND is my sound card. IT Also has > something it called "direct sound" (do all sound card have this?) Which is > really jusrt a straight thru signal. So if Im just looping on the laptop and > nothing else, its GREAT!!! I use the laptop just like a Aux send, things > that go in there get looped... BUt now I have delved a bit further into tha > world of lappy, I find a few things that I would like to use on the whole > mix, Stuter Edit for example, but then I must mute "direct sound" and feed a > clean/dry signal thru the computer (so that its not ONLY loops that I hear) > and the is when I notice the latency. > > Ive tried reducing it in Audio Mulch, to what its calls 256 (512 is clean > but too delayed, its says 11 ms.. not sure if thats right cos it feels a lot > more) but at 256, (where I can still percieve a delay) its beginning to get > a bit clicky sounding. > > > So.. THE QUESTION: > Is it all the soundcard? > The Computer system (I have 4gb ram and 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Due Processor) > The Host? I use Audio Mulch but could switch to Bidule > > Help me with this... the hardware rack is licking my ears, whispering dirty > thoughts ... > > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 11:47:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37216183477; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=R+vFDDRn2/boW8C7fH99HeB6pfzM9p8NnMPYFiimj0M=; b=vxt3BBWs9L66CVsOWSh+8Pxb1ngkUBpTf79l4aBaiNwh6yfjEkqbN+SaWvjFrQHmdv 9xVluJeLwH1Lo/gVACB9lbxX0AKlC1kbvb8b0RVst4FBsOqj7RzKNZxd7A4LULSbRig1 4kLmGTs751UXYBWm7lFEVff2IUzZWfx2G54CY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=Efnx9Nzd5gcwqEGCUJgkpsaAcZXod4K7PFGwadPEYQO+r07UWThWlmRqi5B5ADSfDu 6KG7K2IlBleTI/zBspSb2ILFvnvlX1JGx8eNaxWrV0kk2DxLE0zX8ppzUbs4cZkvp6G4 qVA9e3Aa9K8LD587Rk0+Egp9QT6EgPkHxVpMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:46:39 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: h8XXvC0X8kMgXSbcEijKMc13Z-I Message-ID: Subject: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305496139fa1b6049b7370d9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305496139fa1b6049b7370d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im frustrated, Ive spent 20 minutes trying to make a COMPLETELY ORDINARY ping pong delay on the Fireworx... can someone with one please post the EXACT settings? I dont want any funky tap delay weird bouncing.. thats totally easy to make... I want ... BANG(original) BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right) ... and fade.... Ive tried millions of variations on the dual tap delay.. 1/8L and 16R ---- 1/8.L and 1/8R ---- 1/8L and 1/8TR just cant find the normal one!! Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305496139fa1b6049b7370d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im frustrated, Ive spent 20 minutes trying to make a COMPLETELY ORDINARY pi= ng pong delay on the Fireworx... can someone with one please post the EXACT= settings?

I dont want any funky tap delay weird bouncing.. thats to= tally easy to make...

I want ... BANG(original) BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)B= ANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left)= BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right)BANG(left) BANG(right) ... and fade....
Ive tried millions of variations on the dual tap delay.. 1/8L and 16R -= --- 1/8.L and 1/8R ---- 1/8L and 1/8TR just cant find the normal one!!
<= br>Mark


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--20cf305496139fa1b6049b7370d9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 11:48:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69B3E183475; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iZQLxNB8QtZq+TocTllmdRu4LPCQJvdqoLjAD5bN9B0=; b=C9Jg1n3ywamM/8f0gQ6yG1VbsMti9jdC6TJ9Jk9arkbheDUQeS3qArM1NYZ8YkRlUx esj35zSCPb4OMYFpZT8ihKiVRz9zYYm4IQcQxUnTm57lIBSaqVqmghKA+zX3HTEHOTJ7 aJ7zNvldL8+pyTW1FB/8XK4iV1Rmti+HzKmZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=C9Q4ytMBr18mte/vZo73pZrpW4G6ABBr82ORmqu/rvcBJud/IuEXtmppu3kbUIX9lH MkISA2199CmYqBrEwdu7DfkW5cdRj2KCJTrDZqtzEVvZjmNamOjZcuStHz7frI519SPC /VoVVdZQAi7UjPopuX2Lt4Z47LmAWtCrN66Q8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:47 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VsprCfH_xN9hqS7iLuLfWPA4bz4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b11a836b9049b7374a5 Resent-Message-ID: <7vsYnD.A.K-G.4d-SNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:48:08 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b11a836b9049b7374a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But thats all that shows up in AUDIO MULCH.. is that cos it only shows what is avialable on MY soundcard? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Os wrote: > Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 samples is way too large > a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. > > > os. > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b11a836b9049b7374a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But thats all that shows up in AUDIO MULCH.. is that cos it only shows what= is avialable on MY soundcard?

On Fri, Fe= b 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
Sounds like you n= eed a better sound card. 256 samples is way too large
a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below.


os.


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--20cf30549b11a836b9049b7374a5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 11:52:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E95F18345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RtkLeYpRmmA9zXqHDnbFdFGRectXdzhGQhGV/fStdU0=; b=Nuj1EBT/P/icP03boKHc35812njMQIOLUZ0u/Wmxjojpf0pVXnQSkt5knAUPmWXf0+ 8EBsb5endVeMloGf57/bENOThkhHZZoxeT3n72QtDiUw1xt53pzIfie2DUj2mJkRxowN YEs2lfVKUzikyqR3tKY8imhzqVNx3Q843Uf3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RAguE2xUnIypjSZ05qAnbKmzfm7Hm+KtZMqqsslINzpYq0SrdkDDU0br0Ql94of1lH qQbFHHIJF9i9w07E6DY5vWNgjjKvoUDflwAl0W+qQVxxeKeHxD8HSjOtFZy5ZAfQY+4z CluVO/wp0QfKZiYW+YRpo0uQ+Rxzuv3WkWF+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:52:04 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HvBaEwEeh75IEU8lwb1tTbdbJbg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:52:06 +0000 (UTC) probably. if in doubt try e.g. Ableton Live (demo) that lets you set the buffer size to anything you like. os. On 4 February 2011 11:47, mark francombe wrote: > But thats all that shows up in AUDIO MULCH.. is that cos it only shows what > is avialable on MY soundcard? > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Os wrote: >> >> Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 samples is way too large >> a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. >> >> >> os. >> > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:08:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D57818345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ygmWCUFKisJK72/c/5BTtEzdGBXqC715GVxgZeYdhSE=; b=GGeFGw4s8tcriwlIViMObijvqEkTZrOZOVdSqgzw3rcIjUAzadT+36gMpSQHa7NmMq 0PhL3g9frDkWC/Y4A4O+pd+f37Ls0tGDKoqCFeG01wr0t5GlieSIaEXwr/ymb2OmC0Mw HtJr3jkpHYLDq5s7EQvTj0nxprD9Y0NtDllsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=ic+7n9erMPbjbfpxd8eUdCFvVjW4AyVuB/O4/75WJoW/HceuaFpzUJn1sriWlV6ZEQ eg7qd6H7PXKiIBbQSmobWDp6HmqIMiYXl2euL9Slo+TYrhrt6TDOm8j1pwU2aGUXifUf 0fBaxSqjOsgCj4/FnNjnAjgzoBOp5WlyzJRJo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:08:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59d1c03aa97049b73be77 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:08:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd59d1c03aa97049b73be77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 not sure the dual delay is the one you want, because that's two independent delays and you want one to feed back into the other any of these time settings will work - 1/16 + 1/8......1/8 + 1/4.....1/4 + 1/2 etc the trick is to get the longer delay to feed back into the shorter delay. try one of the other delay blocks. i think the quad tap will do it. just put taps 3 and 4 at zero level. set delay 1 at 1/8 with level at 100% and delay 2 at 1/4 with level at 80%. set feedback on delay 2 at 30% sim On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Im frustrated, > --000e0cd59d1c03aa97049b73be77 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not sure the dual delay is the one you want, because that's two indepen= dent delays and you want one to feed back into the other

any of thes= e time settings will work - 1/16 + 1/8......1/8 + 1/4.....1/4 + 1/2 etc

the trick is to get the longer delay to feed back into the shorter dela= y. try one of the other delay blocks. i think the quad tap will do it. just= put taps 3 and 4 at zero level. set delay 1 at 1/8 with level at 100% and = delay 2 at 1/4 with level at 80%. set feedback on delay 2 at 30%

sim

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Im frustrated,
--000e0cd59d1c03aa97049b73be77-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:09:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DE61183475; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4NTODYQZRZEpHGGFXZYTTAJo0TXrDSSSQJ4xShcdgOY=; b=mRUSYVHtJdJJ5hQPicOZlIgzIgMiXolvokwaZPZ1702QsOCD+cnmYkMo/D7yinEsVv agLHWrSlXhlGtvui6oU904n6352oQuSzfh1sY2gGOUj1sF667RngYts9tgD+KCt74ZFP rhBhslRMtJ0ffV76M/nG6ZGzsci2xgdaXiE40= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gPAMUqgLngLmE1aqweoBLDtcudK1VQuwalZZfA/592yGXEyNUjwbByegNXYY8RX0s3 sYN/Ge/kMKST6ohfFXHVbpU6pzJQEMoClIiuGbBmzwec+Yo9TL3eIh+Xn1ApQ5VWX8oj wgNgQ1UqBoWPyzn6HHkoDH6CM1u5Jxja1phIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:09:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:09:07 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, mark francombe wrote: > The Subject says it all. Some things that will ease the latency blues: 1) I agree with you that an audio buffer of 256 samples for software sucks. You should set it to 128 (personally I'm fine with that, not worse than standing three meters from your guitar amp, or practicing sax turned at a wall to throw back the high freq sound). 2) If using an external sync signal (usually MIDI Clock), whenever stuff doesn't follow in sync you should adjust the device that sends out sync signal to send it a little earlier or later. Do this by ear, simply adjust "sync signal delay" (or whatever your software calls that function) until master stuff and synced stuf run well together. 3) Avoid latency inducing plug-ins! This only goes for live audio input work. DAWs that work with already recorded audio does compensate "under the hood" to fix the latency issue if a plugin delays the audio stream. That is mostly done by delaying the full mix as much needed to get the slowest plugin deliver on time. This all can not happen with a live audio input since the software doesn't know what sound will come in. 4) Speaking about one particular audio signal coming into your sound card: Use Direct Monitoring if you don't need to pass a stream through any software. This means the audio stream comes into the audio interface to be directly directed to the audio output, without passing through the latency producing digitizing process in the software. When using Direct Monitoring you need to watch up for blending the signal with the same signal having passed through the software because that will create bad sounding phasing errors, as the stream passing through the software comes out a bit delayed. It is either Direct Monitoring or just software processed sound - these two shall never blend. 5) If using the Mobius looper, be sure to set up its latency compensation. Since only the looped sound is compensated this works fine with a live audio input, as Mobius has plenty of time to calculate and move your overdubbed audio to the right place regarded earlier layers in the loop (and synced tracks etc etc). Best is to set up Mobius latency compensation by ear: record a rhythmic layer and overdub a second layer. If the second layer comes back earlier or later than the first loop layer you adjust the latency value accordingly. It is not possible to achieve exact sync between layers (i.e. latency compensation) because the references seem to drift and float a bit - but you should be able to come pretty close. I like the setting where overdubbed layers drift forwards as much as they drift backwards; find the point of balance. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:21:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B536183475; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=vvX4Lqlgg3pFbbaBS4VzEA4bHYFIaoRdq2f5kqQN/oM=; b=czfWmKol4hrB8teQnpe3NFUa2kurvO3Gcc1io67KY5Zr2PZUf+LGKt4csYBTT+Q/Jg WTVWyAkocl7HH74FCx/0Mtsz/KQkiN27oHz1d3XZ5eRO/l92gZ8LbULzPFbnF9Ar6pJP Tm8cSxVs5Q5kJpcpnENFmtuWVKOfzWSMh/+Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=UE1lHqOyv0nXnXcYQvnen3fybkNIZhy4mpliqQF6Fn5Pr1+kQ7ExCcVXYqEbpwZkDG JcY/jV5I1ZKOP52AxkorZYERsfXaelE/3SYPHsX/gGwY0mqAS3tyUZEkT9b+9cflFnnj oQEVw+JMLxzNOKNBIjp/zvep5omrQ4beX/cHE= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:21:03 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Os, What interface/computer are you using to get way below 100? I had a = brief stint that I was getting by with 64 but then I started getting = random pops/clicks that would rule it out for live use. This is with a = macbook pro i7/fireface uc . Kinda bummed me out because I thought this = combo would handle 64 samples no prob and latency wise there is not any = improvement from my 4 year old macbook white to a less than a year old = macbook pro i7.=20 On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Os wrote: > Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 samples is way too large > a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. >=20 >=20 > os. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:23:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61353183480; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ml8BhyeQ2H0wajGLSitCGZYkHY1DKx7wQN7jkPegRjE=; b=puCKeq+N+vjZiCch7gCWAQEVbURFWnoK/fg79NOkebTpvn/tsXzK06dbTNjN8LbJK6 QjzhlPdPSvH1ihyUoJYIn9aozX14MPnSOtp0nRqsLkrSO4tdH5aoVzdwEjIb+s96PglA O7yqm/EazE70JuHo046OQWuvfq9HZUV6jHAQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=W69FvgFgmb6tenMeP57yxYoJNnQaDzyDQdCcbDe7Bw0RtCSEJYmiNqjVvknCyw6fnG KwvSAoa+YjBf/BLkWtJxMsHQDHJNH1AxsmlDcgjChGMQMJzQL096pHBP8S2Gop5d8kCA 6PLRo/qWypv09vBmIK+G/wlU1Axpjy+VwLawA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:23:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tl_gmKSK_LhiQ1OkBxziMXo1vno Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549a5fe738fe049b73f2db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:23:28 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549a5fe738fe049b73f2db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All good advice Per... I havent tried latency compensation in Mobius,but Im sure THATS fine.. I dont notice any latency when looping, because my DRY (unlooped) signal has been "direct sound" in other words everything coming off the laptop is looped (apart from synth, but then its mostely pad sounds, rather than blazing Jan Hammer solos...) the problem comes when I want to PLAY thru the lapp, using laptop effects... and unfortuntaly.. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > 1) I agree with you that an audio buffer of 256 samples for software > sucks. You should set it to 128 > 256 is Im afraid the lowest setting in Audio Mulch!!! Is that becoasue of the Ozone (AM getting its setting from the sound card) or is that a Mulch thing? Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549a5fe738fe049b73f2db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All good advice Per... I havent tried latency compensation in Mobius,but Im= sure THATS fine.. I dont notice any latency when looping, because my DRY (= unlooped) signal has been "direct sound" in other words everythin= g coming off the laptop is looped (apart from synth, but then its mostely p= ad sounds, rather than blazing Jan Hammer solos...)

the problem comes when I want to PLAY thru the lapp, using laptop effec= ts...
and unfortuntaly..

On Fri, Feb 4= , 2011 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
= 1) I agree with you that an audio buffer of 256 samples for software
sucks. You should set it to 128

256 is Im afrai= d the lowest setting in Audio Mulch!!! Is that becoasue of the Ozone (AM ge= tting its setting from the sound card) or is that a Mulch thing?

Mark



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--20cf30549a5fe738fe049b73f2db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:28:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 806AE18348A; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gxXHQqNxfHntrCS1GYgX7zp7YmlaWUZMabDVrroRNOs=; b=JYzIPyLPvPIHw6fY88Oe8o6PVnok3Im3iMQ1a7tdrJlRR7lBoOL/aJyVvVF1q05CwB EQ2QJxK2+QZs24WTCLippTIfptVallgNTaqyqPa23kouozC+etPh86PTgZSyAytnfpx8 uHHSZknrAZ4ADM+GfAv8F8XXhKpISAgHqGyM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vTSw/63uFaYeydAHPkV5f8aEMjvREKubI6j04oBPPe22hyjH0L84JeEJANnfGBsiKI EygtAGR4BiNEd5yKvwzrneMMev8U0A9KCNYLxqebsJmtFl3wnw5NRtHVi/scMrhC20wc IOcohNwPCeEKaoAPVG9rzGj1yvxhptSm8lldo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:28:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0lsphD.A.Dq.nD_SNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:28:23 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:23 PM, mark francombe wrote: > 256 is Im afraid the lowest setting in Audio Mulch!!! Is that becoasue of > the Ozone (AM getting its setting from the sound card) or is that a Mulch > thing? The capacity of the sound card is what sets the limits. Software drivers play an important part here too, of course. I would guess that if you should use a better sound card Mulch would present you with 128 and maybe even 64 as possible choices. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:36:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44D80183492; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mkqT/qp55ZN3S66Cc9MAiKZKWG7S3ThDj0xFGeqSJQc=; b=Rk1DAYAVkslNKiOnk+RIQMi68rVZFuLd7YoKdTPLtyQmtXUzFKZi1DfSs/Va0pTDSo jOUHYXw93QXiWLIr/n7PTmuGftqL579MO4xLF9wvjte8J41cVeDakN6Xi11lVJdIYHI/ Py//4FhJxD0BKEJ0NEYYUx10mwNoQMrhJtv2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lcPXHw0lrli2btKoAs1y0QTSTy7aCH9EurS5jB5GUqoLn6fipUBgzpdBUBhgF7gnmq jLjSNQn1lYSiWR7Fi+zaM4JXoQqEGaTsmW0LJTK/bmWcrvMkvTwbV2iipBxW0uVZI/o8 GiXuWE9pMsB5KsFIRnZN+h4HgFEfE3RbR7U6A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:36:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mZyt52C1SOYM_RxzYL7BPFsMMII Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:36:56 +0000 (UTC) MacBook Pro 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo Ableton Live 8 MIO 2882: 14 samples (Live's minimum), input latency 2.00ms, output latency 2.13ms Ultralite mk3: 22 samples, input latency 1.47ms, output latency 1.50ms both at 44.1kHz. That said, I usually run at ~100 samples to reduce CPU load. cheers, os. On 4 February 2011 12:21, Todd Matthews wrote: > Os, > > What interface/computer are you using to get way below 100? I had a brief= stint that I was getting by with 64 but then I started getting random pops= /clicks that would rule it out for live use. This is with a macbook pro i7/= fireface uc . Kinda bummed me out because I thought this combo would handle= 64 samples no prob and latency wise there is not any improvement from my 4= year old macbook white to a less than a year old macbook pro i7. > On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Os wrote: > >> Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 samples is way too large >> a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. >> >> >> os. > > > > > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:48:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF09183498; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=966F4/RLZtymuUuHjOmAXmiTlySLWxkSn+ZRrX13Xws=; b=l1P/A6JzaYtJgKAFYztaU+70fYcyZI+555fJD2tBMLMDZbUafdvMGGIorsJWfVFzaQ zTg+Z/pML06jBaNBtu/kttMWRcm61al/OrRiA1XZAE9I/B5ISrn23UZsRLiTafHYBKJz k7pKyE7LtTgEXJYHCGyRhjLQdrYKabzqsGuGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=L0dS2mIpeQMC/crQc4lzCCPXufg6EqJh7+2PnnUS99h+uWtvgb0oo+P2yvM6HdJNMk YFa9gabRWjumlfj9zSa/JqGG6tuqKwyHg0NlsR5B9rw9c+/d/3kMfXpaXlKJ0PHPsJ/r 1KKWhN4YrD6PmCYMr1RGe9CyuonV80J09xnJg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:48:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Hz6M6xCEQ2_tudH8ZTHHNGl0EWk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e3b89632049b744c5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e3b89632049b744c5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...except there aint a quad tap (on my machine at least!) Theres stereo, dual (that feel should be able to do it cos it has this cross feedback thing) a dual three tap (very complicated one with TWO sets of 3 taps... maybe if I muted all but on in each.. sure i trid that too) a one tap and a SIX tap, no quad tap... With setting a BIT like you suggested but using the six tap, I CAN get one delay left one right, but then the start being center again... On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > not sure the dual delay is the one you want, because that's two independent > delays and you want one to feed back into the other > > any of these time settings will work - 1/16 + 1/8......1/8 + 1/4.....1/4 + > 1/2 etc > > the trick is to get the longer delay to feed back into the shorter delay. > try one of the other delay blocks. i think the quad tap will do it. just put > taps 3 and 4 at zero level. set delay 1 at 1/8 with level at 100% and delay > 2 at 1/4 with level at 80%. set feedback on delay 2 at 30% > > sim > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Im frustrated, >> > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e3b89632049b744c5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...except there aint a quad tap (on my machine at least!)

Theres st= ereo, dual (that feel should be able to do it cos it has this cross feedbac= k thing) a dual three tap (very complicated one with TWO sets of 3 taps... = maybe if I muted all but on in each.. sure i trid that too)=A0 a one tap an= d a SIX tap, no quad tap...

With setting a BIT like you suggested but using the six tap, I CAN get = one delay left one right, but then the start being center again...

=

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Simeon H= arris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
not sure the dual= delay is the one you want, because that's two independent delays and y= ou want one to feed back into the other

any of these time settings will work - 1/16 + 1/8......1/8 + 1/4.....1/= 4 + 1/2 etc

the trick is to get the longer delay to feed back into the shorter dela= y. try one of the other delay blocks. i think the quad tap will do it. just= put taps 3 and 4 at zero level. set delay 1 at 1/8 with level at 100% and = delay 2 at 1/4 with level at 80%. set feedback on delay 2 at 30%

sim

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, = mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Im frustrated,



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--20cf305497e3b89632049b744c5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:53:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15184183485; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Oqxi45lL95fljNAYmoPiSOCvr0ofZ968a5H4ztg/m4I=; b=Bygp8pmJ5g2x2H9wXDtPn7FjyWb2YqWXrfwGA8z8D6ETZLq/Ze5dAIOO0S+znjFiir LUqfWS7ao8acQfc7GKvIFVRuBvUQCj4rmf2C9vn6BGzshZmAeV8dkPQ3FOcLUrtfV3NY wJoxTd3A5IoltxuSx6Eh52v4kfywrcWm4+JmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=vpf1enDqA4x4uTcR+Q429mvFIdY0KNHepAF4bB1F7NvXEOnzpKp9pJOFU1JaX0BlaI K+2QGDtnXwPNqtvc3MwUyb2NvUxNo5+IjiA57XHDyXy3yHna1Ij49D977Lv17SxW/2pA Qz6BInQU6MmmnrxeUPp/vBRgz3tAH2WWzu6ZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4b5b88d74d5049b745fe7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:53:49 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4b5b88d74d5049b745fe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ahh sorry - i assumed the delay blocks were the same as in the tc g-force. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:48 PM, mark francombe wrote: > ...except there aint a quad tap (on my machine at least!) > > Theres stereo, dual (that feel should be able to do it cos it has this > cross feedback thing) a dual three tap (very complicated one with TWO sets > of 3 taps... maybe if I muted all but on in each.. sure i trid that too) a > one tap and a SIX tap, no quad tap... > > With setting a BIT like you suggested but using the six tap, I CAN get one > delay left one right, but then the start being center again... > > --000e0cd4b5b88d74d5049b745fe7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh sorry - i assumed the delay blocks were the same as in the tc g-force. =

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:48 PM, mark fr= ancombe <mar= k@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
...except there a= int a quad tap (on my machine at least!)

Theres stereo, dual (that = feel should be able to do it cos it has this cross feedback thing) a dual t= hree tap (very complicated one with TWO sets of 3 taps... maybe if I muted = all but on in each.. sure i trid that too)=A0 a one tap and a SIX tap, no q= uad tap...

With setting a BIT like you suggested but using the six tap, I CAN get = one delay left one right, but then the start being center again...

--000e0cd4b5b88d74d5049b745fe7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:56:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99204183489; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mRJ0SotTOBUH5ByanOISCt/QgkKjdCNcxseuGABvutk=; b=x8hdchBDWKmjFCnPVq5lbgtBqC5sIsUV35kGLo8BfRYfg10g2oTvciCscnzMdqGNKX 9V2EVLVG7iJShPcQVS0F/Vq5+XSl6IG4DUQtP+7r7Im9T6oI3eKBCySsy0ppE/jIDeoZ ASQ1uFnxrKHqAXGcPZoCOJU/P6WpzZV6hgbVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hINdztQCPC1m5Peqauc9fGXiPXVXwpZtHPi6nuN6EsL8almyk63CFfLQj7pv5JS5Pk JmgqmBeTn9bm5kIsytaxji/ybEZ3efPZ6sNewzilw9YkDzyoxUCSIBjf8YrtHSCaF5Ih foFP8qP44btLnYHL+AYTg/Miiu1VEN1XkWa0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:56:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Check the Tap Delay block! It was a while since I used a FirworX but I think each tap has a pan parameter. Cool thing with using that Tap Delay is that you will know how many taps will come and then you can keep them pretty high in level and play musically with the effect; rather than simply feeding it audio that will decay over time as the taps bounce. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 12:59:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C825D18345B; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: Subject: Re: Latency Problems Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:59:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C9_01CBC46B.4F0B5A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3664 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3664 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110204-0, 04/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:59:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01CBC46B.4F0B5A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer size = you may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there, then = close AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting = is 49 samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with = that. It does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard = driver gives you. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Latency Problems But thats all that shows up in AUDIO MULCH.. is that cos it only shows = what is avialable on MY soundcard? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Os wrote: Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 samples is way too = large a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, ideally way below. os. --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01CBC46B.4F0B5A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You probably know this, Mark, but in = Audiomulch to=20 change buffer size you may have to go to settings > control panel and = change=20 it there, then close AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the = lowest=20 setting is 49 samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite = happy with=20 that. It does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard = driver gives=20 you.
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 = 11:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: Latency = Problems

But thats all that shows up in AUDIO MULCH.. is that = cos it=20 only shows what is avialable on MY soundcard?

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> = wrote:
Sounds like you need a better sound card. 256 = samples is=20 way too large
a buffer size. You want to get down to below 100, = ideally=20 way below.


os.


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------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01CBC46B.4F0B5A80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:02:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3006183491; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=m5lGvZizGVO2NdC3q0fRSTfwWGmcnB/LEl9Ha3jLsoY=; b=t4TCG51zBtVEdvITwjOyLZ3cHfKbyxItTtARgimQCBH1qyFYs4oeT6Q54TNGYZ+ZzJ OlzMAn6WTXOh+fRQdTBnk32ocLN0x+/1wVjZr7qiyWfo7C5YrP/n3b/nC98HDvN3M+Sx TvGGhRx294hWPQ+TELiyrAf8bEEo1ik8XFY+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YaUrYVdx+iyM1ZXx+9Nh93UShsdIK5V5KKWmADWapfHNZK1NOFbNPh5T084lPNMOwA 9vOei8gR2/EDzWA1zDTRBGom1I0UB6iTOPG9FcntpBhzsNFfoLDrVwFMUStLG7UHnQLb WajSqCdKjxj/ojQ47g+vzyPPsKMDpNzYOsz08= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:01:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4l6yk7v29qDwk_IE_HMAHy8gWTk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305497e3c2805b049b747cf5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:02:01 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305497e3c2805b049b747cf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh.. I think I might have been misleading.. I DO love the tap delays on the Fireworx... its just that right now, I NEED one of those totally classic PING PONG delays... preferably set a quarter beat and bingo every feedback will bounce left and right... just cant do it.. of course Im finding lotes of nice settings along the way.. wow the 6 tap gets totallty crazy (I love 4 fast taps and ONE really long tap that pops up now and again to force you into a playing style.. cool) ping pong anyone? M On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Check the Tap Delay block! It was a while since I used a FirworX but I > think each tap has a pan parameter. Cool thing with using that Tap > Delay is that you will know how many taps will come and then you can > keep them pretty high in level and play musically with the effect; > rather than simply feeding it audio that will decay over time as the > taps bounce. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305497e3c2805b049b747cf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh.. I think I might have been misleading.. I DO love the tap delays on the= Fireworx... its just that right now, I NEED one of those totally classic P= ING PONG delays... preferably set a quarter beat and bingo every feedback w= ill bounce left and right... just cant do it.. of course Im finding lotes o= f nice settings along the way.. wow the 6 tap gets totallty crazy (I love 4= fast taps and ONE really long tap that pops up now and again to force you = into a playing style.. cool)

ping pong anyone?

M

On Fri, Fe= b 4, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Check the Tap Delay block! It was a while since I used a FirworX but I
think each tap has a pan parameter. Cool thing with using that Tap
Delay is that you will know how many taps will come and then you can
keep them pretty high in level and play musically with the effect;
rather than simply feeding it audio that will decay over time as the
taps bounce.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markf= rancombe
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--20cf305497e3c2805b049b747cf5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:04:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D39B818349A; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TbJDjOv6wBEhCoq8YHUhvZuJ7sbqWMUeT7az8ODOwe8=; b=kpz2yN0/sW/JrYK+dARNxbkLlYUKJbQ+mNZnfqVb08iu+YEExYmo9af3K2x/3hAY+3 KUNEqiiJW0HtYbUG/VOljsD1z/SQwURkZvu1JPTiYoiPkOMRY88U6VsfoSFo4597Kl/j NNwqdhcHz+/LYD6Q2DmaujWhEhrGUYS/SrT7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z7ZR9g7GjlLXQi6l7KTY7WPSQG2q2mba5P4T0bnCjEO0ua7Mi2j9T+1ju/oINGnX5b HHRCWIMYq+4A/vGAVtULNzna1wx2j0Z5v13kgbJy5TBpDNhL893rFjQc0DkGFj2P2pos dHxaz+q5zrZOYlj21i+WnF4RhnKo5pEi4NyEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:04:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Check the sequencer on the FireworX. Can't you set it to two steps and assign it to "pan" on the wet delay signal? Or use a tempo synced square wave LFO assigned to wet delay pan. per On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:01 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Oh.. I think I might have been misleading.. I DO love the tap delays on the > Fireworx... its just that right now, I NEED one of those totally classic > PING PONG delays... preferably set a quarter beat and bingo every feedback > will bounce left and right... just cant do it.. of course Im finding lotes > of nice settings along the way.. wow the 6 tap gets totallty crazy (I love 4 > fast taps and ONE really long tap that pops up now and again to force you > into a playing style.. cool) > > ping pong anyone? > > M > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Check the Tap Delay block! It was a while since I used a FirworX but I >> think each tap has a pan parameter. Cool thing with using that Tap >> Delay is that you will know how many taps will come and then you can >> keep them pretty high in level and play musically with the effect; >> rather than simply feeding it audio that will decay over time as the >> taps bounce. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> www.looproom.com internet music hub >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:07:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 889581834A2; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=r5+g61ods+8LrP667OhsLktA+LVr1G12VpcqkdUIGUs=; b=U5ns4I73bjz5EwlFoW2cCFu1nSX1AdcRuTDgQbs+YLYjXXor9I6OlIfH86MUJHAaIc LpQDsgyCT74PKF0eGogpRMVA+GNkPVJ2VlYBw2IKWWpp84QoT6vYdxz+O+ialTLHgOLK Ac29gIjZ/7DIRgVWTAuTlAFtA/dcv90UfAlnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EqkYarfiXkK4/gC5vEFPXqcg3aJGjoctU8hplIJiBBltZOYGw/nS8I75oe8cMDaIz1 UellklkufgoYUzOnZWrknvfIhAFw/MNbt63jyfU/mCddzCWM2avOMB9EZLjKfjleL7pJ woJUHetOM6cRXa5W4PxjgJjI1LnzpRGLJwjE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:07:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wHvmjKB52s8o-yDnf4fwVxHQQuw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549613ae7dc0049b749171 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:07:50 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549613ae7dc0049b749171 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bloody HELL.. More GREAT ideas to try....how much life do I have left?... its not =B4yer classic ping pong now is it Per? On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Check the sequencer on the FireworX. Can't you set it to two steps and > assign it to "pan" on the wet delay signal? Or use a tempo synced > square wave LFO assigned to wet delay pan. > > per > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549613ae7dc0049b749171 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bloody HELL.. More GREAT ideas to try....how much life do I have left?... i= ts not =B4yer classic ping pong now is it Per?

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote= :
Check the sequenc= er on the FireworX. Can't you set it to two steps and
assign it to "pan" on the wet delay signal? Or use a tempo synced=
square wave LFO assigned to wet delay pan.

per


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mark francombe
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--20cf30549613ae7dc0049b749171-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:10:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973851834B2; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TIVSVz+rLt6a4UVgz/YsiBKzkJja1NLPLuJGK+hkWKc=; b=ooeSDb/f3DwrefGrgWJHH9V8OW2j0Y6k0nZX1JuIth2VyWmhm4Rj6Z1TZLvRz/6XlV S30+pGMYh5gUZWoND9UYA+VT7PNTnB9yJCwFg+ZE3fggLghRTfkC0XZSsXiqx+dyIP4E p1n0qxLiY9ppbGfZIskMPQgGrNDTxq5BwrgYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c32D5sm25fNRgg5a0xdeIo4ZEInGVLGqG8t6LMoMXBY8mcbpts2CF+FR6KVkuK76rj +pS2pTDgXvNhuc2Fgwa6nncjZ5SAe6rhH8T/s4fIPwLzhGED219zhQ5gvF/HUZxrVzW+ imuqoiUq/gr+nIZfWEl/Wwd5neUJrmd6S37f4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:10:42 +0000 (UTC) It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same duration as the delay time. Per On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:07 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Bloody HELL.. More GREAT ideas to try....how much life do I have left?... > its not =C2=B4yer classic ping pong now is it Per? > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Check the sequencer on the FireworX. Can't you set it to two steps and >> assign it to "pan" on the wet delay signal? Or use a tempo synced >> square wave LFO assigned to wet delay pan. >> >> per >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:14:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05C111834B9; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bRHVa9KGbkAF38hNdTcXN1nP2q3CN9bjudtBfFgEPMk=; b=AhI/7A9qV8DEnyMAg8qhGFYR5aG07O7kPtrpr/cjBJEFsI1s8aQEquvY6QelbHenvp OpkggICzQR3g5oTOBVHPi+qe1nwSwBIDFWTswydnSFxiYu00bXDgz5QDXmyJZ6hnf816 WFRZoZDxWrxdyTDiYZXeXAxEHeKjxKn1iP6fI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Rl1BFSP98UUwJZUUNx/icC3jOoDYmowTlKh50VXf4dkkn+TD8E3BeXhAEvBflZNEUi 4rOPhUEvBU9wM7hMGkjUUj2ddGY1FCE2Htro2TWo3wvBWTrOGecK3ZuKLnKLZvfwKFOU 4JzDs5ZJ5Tq9CxLurhEhAttT6OAAvV9zZCjgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:13:57 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd402ae9f26ba049b74a70e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:14:00 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd402ae9f26ba049b74a70e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that's a good way to do it - with the square lfo tied to pan you have to watch out when using two delays, because if one is set to an 1/8 and one is set to a 1/4 and they are independent, then when the 1/8th delay hits it's second repeat, it will be on top of the 1/4 delay and you'll hear it in the middle. On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same duration > as the delay time. > > --000e0cd402ae9f26ba049b74a70e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's a=A0 good way to do it - with the square lfo tied to pan

= you have to watch out when using two delays, because if one is set to an 1/= 8 and one is set to a 1/4 and they are independent, then when the 1/8th del= ay hits it's second repeat, it will be on top of the 1/4 delay and you&= #39;ll hear it in the middle.


On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Per Boys= en <perboysen@g= mail.com> wrote:
It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same durat= ion
as the delay time.

--000e0cd402ae9f26ba049b74a70e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:20:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0D7C1834C1; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9e36c110-3fb9-478d-9dcf-d3098156a54f_" X-Originating-IP: [81.153.157.119] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Latency Problems Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:20:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 13:20:40.0479 (UTC) FILETIME=[519B9AF0:01CBC46E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:20:48 +0000 (UTC) --_9e36c110-3fb9-478d-9dcf-d3098156a54f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark=2C=20 Your sound card driver will dictate what the lowest buffer size is. Is this= a PC or mac? I can't tell from your description. If it's PC then use ASIO4= all drivers which are rock steady and go way on down... =20 peace =20 g =20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Fri=2C 4 Feb 2011 12:41:05 +0100 Subject: Latency Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com The Subject says it all. Can someone please tell me how I can reduce this as best as possible. There= are 2 issues for me. 1) I cant get a good synch between my hardware gear (modular synth and hard= ware loopers) 2)I cant play "with feeling" having this slight delay all the time. So... is it just about having a really great sound-card.... get the power e= xternally? Because I admit that I have a very BAD sound-card. The M-Audio O= zone Mini keyboard. But its very convenient for me. I need a little keyboard to play some of my= patches=2C and it provides a few knobs (8) AND is my sound card. IT Also h= as something it called "direct sound" (do all sound card have this?) Which = is really jusrt a straight thru signal. So if Im just looping on the laptop= and nothing else=2C its GREAT!!! I use the laptop just like a Aux send=2C = things that go in there get looped... BUt now I have delved a bit further i= nto tha world of lappy=2C I find a few things that I would like to use on t= he whole mix=2C Stuter Edit for example=2C but then I must mute "direct sou= nd" and feed a clean/dry signal thru the computer (so that its not ONLY loo= ps that I hear) and the is when I notice the latency. Ive tried reducing it in Audio Mulch=2C to what its calls 256 (512 is clean= but too delayed=2C its says 11 ms.. not sure if thats right cos it feels a= lot more) but at 256=2C (where I can still percieve a delay) its beginning= to get a bit clicky sounding. So.. THE QUESTION:=20 Is it all the soundcard?=20 The Computer system (I have 4gb ram and 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Due Processor= ) The Host? I use Audio Mulch but could switch to Bidule Help me with this... the hardware rack is licking my ears=2C whispering dir= ty thoughts ... --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no = --_9e36c110-3fb9-478d-9dcf-d3098156a54f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark=2C
Your sound card =3Bdriver will dictate what the lowest buffer size is. = Is this a PC or mac? I can't tell from your description. If it's PC then us= e ASIO4all drivers which are rock steady and go way on down...
 =3B
peace
 =3B
g

 =3B
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Fri=2C 4 Feb 2011 12:41:05 +0100
S= ubject: Latency Problems
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

= The Subject says it all.

Can someone please tell me how I can reduce= this as best as possible. There are 2 issues for me.

1) I cant get = a good synch between my hardware gear (modular synth and hardware loopers)<= BR>
2)I cant play "with feeling" having this slight delay all the time.<= BR>
So... is it just about having a really great sound-card.... get the = power externally? Because I admit that I have a very BAD sound-card. The M-= Audio Ozone Mini keyboard.
But its very convenient for me. I need a litt= le keyboard to play some of my patches=2C and it provides a few knobs (8) A= ND is my sound card. IT Also has something it called "direct sound" (do all= sound card have this?) Which is really jusrt a straight thru signal. So if= Im just looping on the laptop and nothing else=2C its GREAT!!! I use the l= aptop just like a Aux send=2C things that go in there get looped... BUt now= I have delved a bit further into tha world of lappy=2C I find a few things= that I would like to use on the whole mix=2C Stuter Edit for example=2C bu= t then I must mute "direct sound" and feed a clean/dry signal thru the comp= uter (so that its not ONLY loops that I hear) and the is when I notice the = latency.

Ive tried reducing it in Audio Mulch=2C to what its calls 2= 56 (512 is clean but too delayed=2C its says 11 ms.. not sure if thats righ= t cos it feels a lot more) but at 256=2C (where I can still percieve a dela= y) its beginning to get a bit clicky sounding.


So.. THE QUESTION= :
Is it all the soundcard?
The Computer system (I have 4gb ram and = 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Due Processor)
The Host? I use Audio Mulch but cou= ld switch to Bidule

Help me with this... the hardware rack is lickin= g my ears=2C whispering dirty thoughts ...




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mark f= rancombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
= http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
= --_9e36c110-3fb9-478d-9dcf-d3098156a54f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:28:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D807C1834D2; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1kpMiOU1Q6W3lQZ6J2ap/xfIYCXcGAKAj1sz23Q6be8=; b=dQDJ+gayQLbIYKMgET0PPDHfRo9MMd4qiwd7XIFAH4C5FR+nh/rht9em6n7ENw/AwE CvmapN6PZIMYUSEMVFAMTK44IZjMibvEqj6vWTBzBfy/SfQgbu1gQC3EjAyHTtZccGel 4vLhEQ3+lnaj9LWaUQSjekO910v6+7LzS30/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XQl1Oi3QA8K/uIslwslLZ3QrfpPKGZjNTPRtvKY+qy+/4B0XvqUHgbM949f+emHa9x XM7FUyXZDaGaeDOEXR51Tdd9Zb4eZz3tyhU/i5cTGeCtkPNhu79Etjnvj5c45GLOjhPg ZFKhHfvRDng2H0++jxGp9s0Dih3eWjpc6kedo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:28:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LtZUQYWGpJWtD6ffN8VlmSRVNrI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b112fa072049b74db0e Resent-Message-ID: <2D-9B.A._eD.47_SNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b112fa072049b74db0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same duration > as the delay time. > No it wont Per... It will be panned feedback which in its self sound pretty cool.. but no... remember that a delay can be played at ANY moment, and if the first delay comes in the left a 6th beat later and then the right an 8th later.. WHENEVER you play, you get delays sounding on BOTH sides, with you sugestion there will be a gap on one side at a time where the delays are not Sim wrote you have to watch out when using two delays, because if one is set to an 1/8 and one is set to a 1/4 and they are independent, then when the 1/8th delay hits it's second repeat, it will be on top of the 1/4 delay and you'll hear it in the middle. Yes thats exacly the trouble right there... what I need is 2 x 16th delays, but where ONLY the feedback from one delay goes into the second delay and vice versa... so THAT delay is FIRST delayed by the first delay, then it adds to that delay time before sending it back to the first delay... - Show quoted text - > Per > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549b112fa072049b74db0e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same durat= ion
as the delay time.


No it wont Per... It will b= e panned feedback which in its self sound pretty cool.. but no... remember = that a delay can be played at ANY moment, and if the first delay comes in t= he left a 6th beat later and then the right an 8th later.. WHENEVER you pla= y, you get delays sounding on BOTH sides, with you sugestion there will be = a gap on one side at a time where the delays are not

Sim wrote
you have to watch out when using two delays, because if one is set to an=20 1/8 and one is set to a 1/4 and they are independent, then when the=20 1/8th delay hits it's second repeat, it will be on top of the 1/4 delay= =20 and you'll hear it in the middle.

Yes thats exacly the trouble r= ight there...=A0 what I need is 2 x 16th delays, but where ONLY the feedbac= k from one delay goes into the second delay and vice versa... so THAT delay= is FIRST delayed by the first delay, then it adds to that delay time befor= e sending it back to the first delay...


- Show quoted t= ext -


Per





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mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf30549b112fa072049b74db0e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:43:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5ABB1834DE; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=jJ/+WCpR0uFR+ienmLgxnJbeFupV9LERsWTYO4XJ1co=; b=jGDZ5ChFrgrYx/e5f93cgWqsmQEYQPSFqWYVjRfp5vD3xj6pTmC3JfYMNVbpu1+o6D GTL6Lo/STFFfqQ9ZA+xbYSCoQL+zmAGDgWFmMNkmFIaxIrzeS7BWvnDuvdHjTLsikhrp jO3TFJxOm1eBkHbTi6G94V90guXu+atWsPoG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=IHq30V1lZ9gqAUoiVGhR2t3E5MLWCcGv8Y0K1xX6/yXBa93V02mZLnmeg78fWbJq7L qI474Z8ohU0YGwiANhuCnCJdinmxfzaPaLiOsS8faat83d75XaqPA6652LVlAQ4KVcX8 Bw8Ml0XRutpOM7qjzbUT/nV90ic9FQlfDyhFw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:43:13 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Wow!! Man, I would kill just to be able to play at 64 samples without my = audio freakin out! I would be just fine though at 128 and that's not = working for me. I just took a break from playing now because my audio = glitched out again at 128 samples. I'm using Mainstage because I had = even worse performance with Ableton Live 8. The glitches happen evven = with extremely low CPU load on my computer. Makes me think there's = something wrong with my system. The really wish there was a program = like that DPC latency monitor program for Mac so I could get down to the = bottom of this. Thanks Os, Todd Matthews On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Os wrote: > MacBook Pro 2.53GHz Core 2 Duo >=20 > Ableton Live 8 >=20 > MIO 2882: 14 samples (Live's minimum), input latency 2.00ms, output > latency 2.13ms >=20 > Ultralite mk3: 22 samples, input latency 1.47ms, output latency 1.50ms >=20 > both at 44.1kHz. >=20 > That said, I usually run at ~100 samples to reduce CPU load. >=20 >=20 > cheers, > os. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 13:57:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 215481834AE; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Uo7wyPZ7hZbNb79JxCMF8bx1q86iG7WinkTG6UJcpi8=; b=qrWqL3dEu6NQoTrpPGLmMCADKlgrdVX3WaFKA9iShlqn2l+cQzSFKDmoVmyvOTL79w T8ZcAG0SKYRTDLAZw7UCrzYzBR5J2Mrksh7bm9BA5JMiCywgZojmIg/vDvix5zXACjUi +bVeE9AsrwRt13cA+m8LZjulUEv2haJnrikos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=E5rHAcWjcsfG0l2rES2jg/YCM9sfFdkzMpb0vzTuL3EwIF3yyT+qfL4v7B5u0UjYPX U7JMV7eJ7edAwv21Q/kAVMQUMujC5u9UPHUbe4RcoVeHU9xBOznhIRMoyga5LbQim613 1/AWzG+CPEKO06q8HlRAc+gpWOSvLiIUF+lT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:40:33 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd401acc78d90049b750627 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:57:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd401acc78d90049b750627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have a vague memory of one of the delay blocks in the g-force having cross feedback parameters (delay two feeding back into delay one and vice versa) - yeah, just checked the manual, it's the dual delay block. set delay one to 1/16, delay two to 1/8, feedback 2>2 50% and feedback 2>1 50%. hopefully the dual delay on the fireworx has the same parameters! sim On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:28 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > Yes thats exacly the trouble right there... what I need is 2 x 16th > delays, but where ONLY the feedback from one delay goes into the second > delay and vice versa... so THAT delay is FIRST delayed by the first delay, > then it adds to that delay time before sending it back to the first delay... > > > --000e0cd401acc78d90049b750627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have a vague memory of one of the delay blocks in the g-force having cros= s feedback parameters (delay two feeding back into delay one and vice versa= ) - yeah, just checked the manual, it's the dual delay block. set delay= one to 1/16, delay two to 1/8, feedback 2>2 50% and feedback 2>1 50%= . hopefully the dual delay on the fireworx has the same parameters!

sim

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:28 PM, m= ark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Yes thats exacly the trouble right ther= e...=A0 what I need is 2 x 16th delays, but where ONLY the feedback from on= e delay goes into the second delay and vice versa... so THAT delay is FIRST= delayed by the first delay, then it adds to that delay time before sending= it back to the first delay...


--000e0cd401acc78d90049b750627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:02:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 542DA18349F; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 572683605/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRJy/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45gwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="572683605" Message-ID: <4D4C0703.3010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:02:43 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:02:39 +0000 (UTC) I bet *all* the following are possible with the fireworx. Classic way is to use 2 parallel delays of the same length, but with the feedback crossed from one to the other. Then only introduce sound into one of them. Way 2 again with parallel delays is to have a delay R at whatever fbk you want, and delay L at fbk=0, with delay L being half the length of delay R. ..then route audio to both, and output of delay R to input of delay L. Way 3 is to have 2 equal delays in series route audio to del 1 input, del 1 output to del 2 input and del 2 output (feedback) to del 1 I think it's nicer if the dry signal is hard panned, but most fx units don't do that so I expect it can't be called "classic" if you do that. andy ps, is there not a factory preset named "ping-pong"? ...bet that like me you avoid those. mark francombe wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > It will be "classic p-p" if you set the LFO/Seq to the same duration > as the delay time. > > > > No it wont Per... It will be panned feedback which in its self sound > pretty cool.. but no... remember that a delay can be played at ANY > moment, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:04:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F2F31834A6; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bm1PbylWGbNYms8NWzGZybACvTWB3MMF764ZZqAWN3I=; b=MBe+4IwtYhboVE68SnqC5nO0Hkc12TOfFlzzQL0CQQXbXNRAd4QoaHzj54XP8TVy7m fhM+2+LitDl2MGkDUIGYa4OIjz34ityFTh4PcQSC5kLAwD5qoFX6Msh7tERr5EiOtyY0 ywem9wCdcucS09v9b8ytE1vSyhaTzMpjDmwWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=a9x390J2bD5NEjRkRXrj26UQgFKhDKsqUvOWsjIBAwmhhFwLROv/cQXvGmeQSkldrk cv4HpStZn1UGTDuh3ZgblfzdJBHdmYTSFZECfWxMjeb4lmko6xr46mkwqL5f2jEYVBsk RNrTljITDyAlVRhzpi0KZ+bRPmWVipWKjHgd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:04:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xQq9cza5Pt6swQ2s4aEhSY2uZzc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549613891220049b755cdb Resent-Message-ID: <3jbLJD.A.EHF.zdATNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:04:35 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549613891220049b755cdb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK I figured it out, just posting the solution for those paying attention. delay 1 1/8 delay 2 1/4 delay 2 is left delay 2 is right delay 1 feedback is 0 delay 2 feedback is 58 (or whatever it is your TOTAL feedback level, I routed it to the =E2=88=82 mod wheel) delay 1 cross feedback 0 (this is where I went wrong=3D delat 2 cross feedback 100 (you want ALL you signal going to the othe delay line) that was it.. easy peasy... but it took all afternoon... ... wait.. I see Mr Butler has posted.. course Mr Vortex knows... Ill send this before I read him... Mark --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549613891220049b755cdb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK I figured it out, just posting the solution for those paying attention.<= br>
delay 1 1/8
delay 2 1/4

delay 2 is left
delay 2 is rig= ht

delay 1 feedback is 0
delay 2 feedback is 58 (or whatever it i= s your TOTAL feedback level, I routed it to the =E2=88=82 mod wheel)

delay 1 cross feedback 0 (this is where I went wrong=3D
delat 2 cros= s feedback 100 (you want ALL you signal going to the othe delay line)
that was it.. easy peasy... but it took all afternoon...
... wait.. I = see Mr Butler has posted.. course Mr Vortex knows... Ill send this before I= read him...

Mark


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http://www.looop.no --20cf30549613891220049b755cdb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:09:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C51A91834AE; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WBupbpL6NOvARAwakIsKseFz4knWhmmjLyjYI0gaq6s=; b=EuB7Im+QW/A1nEDn3YwFoOtqQ91XL7VWUlt6RuOjKa9/k6QlqA3mryMb3l6fuu+AOS kEfRjgIGj4w/lgBsyTIzKNjfQhU9qV/W2i6k0nxwem2kSXsHM7agWs1h0N0CMPfsN7Km rjDiwcwopulj7efz4fa6oOJTuGbVA8Fz7c07A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DrfBRT1DAzyQx4yK3Zm0yVvNPkh8WUbd+fWVBIVFaL1c5CUh/70Afp3wCaS+TOGw8h Xt73XWIbiI4JioAOoKGC/MMr7pdWA+FBKmFVOXUkDEUoVDb1egkv5tzCY5AHQYAB9QN6 +9UUC93335p7noISQMPuvQ3+x4yR13zvCDfHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:09:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: A5N-ivqv0DEdrGiiJhsO-gLrbAk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549dc3de00eb049b756e26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:09:41 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549dc3de00eb049b756e26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yep Andy I think your method 2 is what I did... the others don't work cos you cant have 2 instances of delay.. wait.. YES YOU FUCKING CAN!! bugger.. I could have done that.. shit... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf30549dc3de00eb049b756e26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yep Andy I think your method 2 is what I did... the others don't work cos you cant have 2 instances of delay.. wait.. YES YOU FUCKING CAN!! bugger.. I could have done that.. shit...

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--20cf30549dc3de00eb049b756e26-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:19:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D67CC1834C7; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uVp6/FEiNq6jJE5xdp2l1vGvoWJndPd5gWvrnzupXq8=; b=rqrZVcEIaQS2WIrVydqxNr6Hm5i1adUHC4wIBbOJNljFAjcVI36RDtzkHEC/OF0123 oHMMwbmGM8tIcwuxr1fItWsXZf0ynGs5OlSyw54FxzD5+IE7NsyyjB88s9hyuV2rW2zL GMgZvhUdDDzokBID/XkibwG42icbU+gJyg8K0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dbx0ztvaXrRFNzcglSY43/uasiNzMNxdbYiRSlUj6r0EAK8zRhS6g+dnZyGPkrM9lv HCIyXtInqnC7WGcn4uJ1iNn2Z9OhAyfxDasDUjiNY5aWGt5yRZN6VktP5XagEGzFB8xL TeN7DV4qAg/EZtRSC2rfsONlDE0rWB52wjvfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:18:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rRvv0bo60j26YiK8h6y7NlCp3-A Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15fd2f711049b759005 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:19:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15fd2f711049b759005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should expect that coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control surface in and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a shame cos its just more gear to set up... I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now I have the hangovers and the mood-swings... Im not sure Steve, but Im pretty sure my settings change immediately, if I hit APPLY. cos I can hear the crackles approachin' at 256. I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers!!... Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissing drivers... Mark On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes wrote: > You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer size you > may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there, then close > AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting is 49 > samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with that. It > does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver gives you. > > Steve > --20cf3054a15fd2f711049b759005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should=A0 expect t= hat coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control su= rface in and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a sh= ame cos its just more gear to set up...

I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now = I have the hangovers and the mood-swings...

Im not sure Steve, but I= m pretty sure my settings change immediately, if I hit APPLY. cos I can hea= r the crackles approachin' at 256.

I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers!= !... Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissi= ng drivers...

Mark



On Fri,= Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
You probably know this, Mark, but in A= udiomulch to=20 change buffer size you may have to go to settings > control panel and ch= ange=20 it there, then close AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lo= west=20 setting is 49 samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy = with=20 that. It does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver g= ives=20 you.
=A0
Steve
--20cf3054a15fd2f711049b759005-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:35:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2C11834DC; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7UALS+RTOg36TS2JVH2KxC7xzu2nHWKSYs6FScfDY7k=; b=gHvgdDGEb823FrETJuzJtcP151w8wl140MW6P5EpXTJIQm8gCfTzECw3dvm1wA5snv TUQNQZkgxDDtub6ISbKyD8hH6Oe5W5aDZLABQcRckkZ+6ldtgJLPGG4OpfPjrs2p73o6 2SV3Za0YoonzA9kDxKfKdKrF2m8k4aNPE8WAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f42dCILK+UnBuEoEzJB8ZXRfSCaLR0ahs4EncKG8zym6IQhyi3+iHyOmPIJ29cWauV hWZwGkDs/NtKzOeTNqNGBaLELrwwaOCK+5JqPfCDlAdwKkwLaquUXzvYOZs7UoKHSsqA zZkyY4zMpxX2mXI/EY1DveWO79OYMUpGKwk3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:35:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51ab2a2804d049b75ccde Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:35:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51ab2a2804d049b75ccde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 another thing to bear in mind is the actual fidelity of the sound card/interface. the benefits of upgrading are multifarious: lower latency, better stability, and increased fidelity. i ditched my m-audio interface and bought an rme and all of a sudden all the software i've spent money on actually sounded good. - jim On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should expect > that coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control surface > in and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a shame cos its > just more gear to set up... > > I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now I > have the hangovers and the mood-swings... > > Im not sure Steve, but Im pretty sure my settings change immediately, if I > hit APPLY. cos I can hear the crackles approachin' at 256. > > I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers!!... > Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissing > drivers... > > Mark > > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes > wrote: > >> You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer size >> you may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there, then >> close AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting is >> 49 samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with that. >> It does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver gives >> you. >> >> Steve >> > --000e0cd51ab2a2804d049b75ccde Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable another thing to bear in mind is the actual fidelity of the sound card/inte= rface.=A0 the benefits of upgrading are multifarious: lower latency, better= stability, and increased fidelity.=A0 i ditched my m-audio interface and b= ought an rme and all of a sudden all the software i've spent money on a= ctually sounded good.

- jim

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM,= mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should=A0 expect t= hat coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control su= rface in and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a sh= ame cos its just more gear to set up...

I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now = I have the hangovers and the mood-swings...

Im not sure Steve, but I= m pretty sure my settings change immediately, if I hit APPLY. cos I can hea= r the crackles approachin' at 256.

I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers!= !... Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissi= ng drivers...

Mark

--000e0cd51ab2a2804d049b75ccde-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:45:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1BCF1834E9; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TRUb5hBv+r6jr+aGgVRyx/RH60MhUEvtOxASoMMPg4o=; b=ESjedD4aywzzPOZV2ZwtZSK3fm/RxnfuPoM9XS3571wRnGssPdcR7MFC4A4t+eqaw7 ytG5x25f93QwgjPZ9z79odnuX7TSeE9dXwML0kfPPb8YLDWFtIkD3BuhYt4lEqKZ7QcX 9W3IsXF7n77zTTbTGGiIku4Tywd2ybtkrgxCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dovwwAeleolBDms4U/ILdoRDwvZxKq2OYEP8jnSb3Vmk23+gCfoohqE32DuKc4t8et kmHW0ZRg3BjaH5IQh+QwUBxStRc0iMpFjuaOuD2pwGPEwrEphJGj6+8p0xwBPK5YcNq9 Z1jeXG94GA26kP/hLik3N9Yiwknu4CGvu03NY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D4BC9D4.3060005@tiscali.co.uk> References: <1294098313.15763.1296747015483.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1106782008.15928.1296747149589.JavaMail.root@sz0056a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4D4BC9D4.3060005@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:45:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: request for the list. a free reverb vst for mac? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Dreampoint's FreeVerb is, in fact, implemented (or available) in Bidule ... looking at it just now ... Plug for bidule: like a number of scriptable enviornments, bidule will allow you to create mutiple, chained effects. PSP's PianoVerb, which was already mentioned, is one such effect that works really well this way ... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:41 AM, andy butler wrote: > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Yes, I think it's good for long reverb. > > It's FREE > > just try it folks, > even if it's not your exact 'verb today > it's a great plug > > > Another option is that FreeVerb is implemented in Bidule > ( i think ) > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 14:50:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FAD61834F0; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QzphKHF4ylxesYwb32vn+5CIwvgdWuNBzSN9OKxqQuo=; b=XXO85ydo2tN7fs8Y6JkTKBIAeXuN2eeiuoxg47FdX/odMIFVTebrDfLXSBJkBWsEof 81Vg0ccgu3rJuJBCA5MqpG/EYf7DNm4WI3gWpQA5yYhR1ApVj6CPUrWIRKFn979skWBu S4ipsMVxZsoo74+ROQKf1UwuZcJtU2z78+nOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NK7pwX/56LyxnJznAeeSAWMFtWxSt3RSMvEC5oE6fXVSI6NBYsv/8IGteYds8PYZ3/ 1EbBI4FIOINsNo0d44scHGIE1jRlfJm7c8899Htz4tZE05EA/ri5ZpDnd1E27WaxzqMe QIAwpjyp5MmhO/nWR3hbxqYdRxhNLUg3xws2I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:50:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Mark, If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM, mark francombe wro= te: > Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should=A0 expect= that > coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control surface i= n > and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a shame cos its > just more gear to set up... > > I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now I > have the hangovers and the mood-swings... > > Im not sure Steve, but Im pretty sure my settings change immediately, if = I > hit APPLY. cos I can hear the crackles approachin' at 256. > > I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers!!.= .. > Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissing > drivers... > > Mark > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes > wrote: >> >> You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer size yo= u >> may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there, then clo= se >> AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting is 49 >> samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with that. = It >> does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver gives y= ou. >> >> Steve > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:02:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA06618349D; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2T2o+V7tqfcWU/vMbHYirhzkzXnlvx6Kd7vQGEajQjk=; b=D+/lvzOjokqTpNZszQUazfdKjbf2gx/xwQOdFWdmlQczJsRPBfmBc3a/GTFAkk7uhG qY4ro6L6+2r/Iyek5PR3Zla51ONJTVUEwEOwm+BLc7Xjs6IOfvdJGcZE+cokVd6cgODL dhgubKUvn0DoTgDEsgB/CiCWOMpah7si8k4EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=KUoPh3znr5haSUIBqZPnYPdhFbvVIKDq3cSDZk+OEPSWTBPy08ypMeBrDXJHwkOfa2 hqhra3RoOq96bNamsj3KKO8tSqvC0EL0gu+80AYFGj+MOGyyAxDkctQ4K/Z13AkjAAT5 isBjzmh/PrHOraqdzg6h26D5xZCBFG1r/WnxU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:02:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SOAA2JMYPMclOke3xussel82v3g Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305641d5f96e46049b762cbe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:02:51 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305641d5f96e46049b762cbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got myself Bidule a while back, it wasnt for me.. not as a Host, but I am gonna spend some time to build specific tools. Ad yes.. its does sound like I need a new soundcard... no money Im afraid... not a kroner... plenty of minus ones infact... On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Mark, > > If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface > and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should expect > that > > coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control surface > in > > and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a shame cos its > > just more gear to set up... > > > > I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now I > > have the hangovers and the mood-swings... > > > > Im not sure Steve, but Im pretty sure my settings change immediately, if > I > > hit APPLY. cos I can hear the crackles approachin' at 256. > > > > I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! > Drivers!!... > > Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissing > > drivers... > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes < > stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> > > wrote: > >> > >> You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer size > you > >> may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there, then > close > >> AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting is 49 > >> samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with that. > It > >> does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver gives > you. > >> > >> Steve > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf305641d5f96e46049b762cbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got myself Bidule a while back, it wasnt for me.. not as a Host, but I am= gonna spend some time to build specific tools. Ad yes.. its does sound lik= e I need a new soundcard... no money Im afraid... not a kroner... plenty of= minus ones infact...

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Dennis Moser= <sinsofmac= haut@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark,

If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface
and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side!

Best,

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:18 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Hmm bugger... seems its the sound card... well I spose I should=A0 exp= ect that
> coming from a "total cheapo , lets chuck a keyboard and control s= urface in
> and call it a all in one solution", type solution... Its a shame = cos its
> just more gear to set up...
>
> I think the honeymoon period with AudioMulch and Mobius is over... now= I
> have the hangovers and the mood-swings...
>
> Im not sure Steve, but Im pretty sure my settings change immediately, = if I
> hit APPLY. cos I can hear the crackles approachin' at 256.
>
> I should check M-Audio, maybe theres a driver update... SEE!!! Drivers= !!...
> Im a damn musician, I should be talking about delay times... not pissi= ng
> drivers...
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Steve Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> You probably know this, Mark, but in Audiomulch to change buffer s= ize you
>> may have to go to settings > control panel and change it there,= then close
>> AM and restart it. With my Tascam USB interface the lowest setting= is 49
>> samples and the highest is 512. I use 128 and am quite happy with = that. It
>> does depend though, on what options your actual soundcard driver g= ives you.
>>
>> Steve
>




--
mark franco= mbe
www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @= markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://www.looop.no
--20cf305641d5f96e46049b762cbe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:07:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140A61834C4; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=x/9HhC+bIMZiKckNqz7PO8IpxHL/f4/Unge2Ca0neb4=; b=IOKiQpGMwBjG2C0yNZ05tsS50os0zl6W+Y2rNY7S2gNFe4h6tm329DnHPDF5rtTgcF IWtCxMOBFjRyFMWx8Ax4KhaTrcHMz5W71TIo5JzKJOoOvC9ytQ/VQ+u01+BKjIdsikC2 kirrPnlY0pMKccQe6g9bxtnToKIU6PyKt7L6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=CJzsLa7PWCtB6akRNag5P1xQ7XEXv9ZVqb90RKcFrvhiSAWvyqkCgRXa8+22LcWUMC qIl4MVzkLtA7Iv5MFEi9PIHiKK9twA2er3KDAhFnpqBDNnVVQMc+G8OMTOZEYmF7cOJv JCse261r1RehbZi6pA+GLs4HHX2UJxzTw+z2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:07:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bNJV9TGAeD0eMMNnnZU3iYI_dWc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ping Pong delay on Fireworx To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a15f605405049b763dd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:07:25 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a15f605405049b763dd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Weirdly it just STOPPED working... very strange.. sometimes when I change the tempo setting on the delays, in FireworX I hear NO change at all... what is that? Nothing has changed in my patch.. I dont understand... Maybe its time to try some of the other My Butler ideas? mark >>OK I figured it out, just posting the solution for those paying attention. mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --20cf3054a15f605405049b763dd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weirdly it just STOPPED working... very strange.. sometimes when I change t= he tempo setting on the delays, in FireworX I hear NO change at all... what= is that? Nothing has changed in my patch.. I dont understand...

Maybe its time to try some of the other My Butler ideas?


mark


>>OK I figured it out, just posting the solution for tho= se paying attention.

mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @ma= rkfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/use= r825094
http://www.looop.no
--20cf3054a15f605405049b763dd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:09:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74D7B1834C2; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Latency Problems References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Latency Problems Thread-Index: AcvEfXcw1k1wEi1kRTqNb1LvAC9kKA== Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:08:21 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 15:09:21.0903 (UTC) FILETIME=[80ADEFF0:01CBC47D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:09:23 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface > and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! Ok good segueway, as I've been wanting to ask this question. ;) My brother is giving me a handmedown laptop, a couple of year old Mac Powerb= ook. I am not sure the model but he would only have the top of line (rich do= ctor!!) So I figure I would send it to my buddy who manages a Apple store, wipe it c= lean, start fresh, then set it up ONLY for looping. =20 So what should I get to go with that? Or us Apple not the way? Man this is the dark dark side for this lp1 user!!!!! Andy= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:20:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9A0E1834EB; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 793781.47075.bm@omp1026.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296832814; bh=1oMkWmYmNKnXfn5B3ZgJmoTVzVX12AhLykjRa2VszIw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M6kKQ+USn9S5UACHfRCjdiOilhNrH6Bi+2xp+ipQdSjv9jYFrWtXbz70SGz7wkEy9CYsShteHkmL7h7a7z3wg4nbqXC5eZeqj3RUw5g5IQm3fbR49f3STe7kzudFuMHiSNhR5KLg3u7quX0DzL1xgEX9w/9k+pNF1aBgGnJIJnw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wsUSk3S7fAZ1sZyXJ7c7IycefyCEdNkHNz+QNjVnP7kZ0bQgF52vZK/lbl20t3Q/oJVSReL3KiDRePk0dPsPkn8SCfJLKSSznO5nKN0YbiEo+sq171i2CEzngx2BIvCKn7i/IB9uQ+VeodayfWdl5lpTjm6d1JMqLOwivhn5U1c=; Message-ID: <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6K16yH8VM1nUi5dmdooJOEEb3vGPNC0MHPqi_icWMhvska3 AYJya0tUVH37q5y5vHgyE7LYCDxJO8elljWvJ513h0A6vRSbUBEwu9bhMepL VKktf16vXrgt24VbQGed.YkAVI9aoPpa0AvWf1h5yBpOsKe5YGrirQ.G8OeJ KrVW0OvT_CRbjgHu9npwLzJkCe.9bx3FEj_ZyrzJ6K33uxGQreGvxHtBU2Gm MU7AkbFSH6ERkZTreTZYMC9HTULu3imjREq1yRqObKOAJjUIOOA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1719438685-1296832814=:9861" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:20:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-1719438685-1296832814=:9861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > We're not all Americans here! Wait. You mean there's something other than Americans??? /me whistles in disbelief... [But seriously] This synth looks pretty cool. It reminds me of the interface on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use. It's an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly. And with the computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular. Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app... LOL Regards, Doug --0-1719438685-1296832814=:9861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> We're not all Americans here!

Wait.  You mean there's something other than Americans???  /me whistles in disbelief...

[But seriously]  This synth looks pretty cool.  It reminds me of the interface on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use.  It's an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly.  And with the computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular.  Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app...  LOL

Regards,
Doug

--0-1719438685-1296832814=:9861-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:27:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 257141834F4; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xPdotwRtNMVPflH2PWVeJRt+qpYaG5DKCNIM3+0yc10=; b=CHXEBSszod/IFQU8I49BgXxLoljw7AJJPUUvOh7Kh8YnesQYCBGHlfno+t9aXr/ueR 9DO/qKEQGu5ssX95Uskd2qxrzCENCe/JBtAKL+bEsCd4qxntHVbtXzEbYvaY1dlps523 aNcAYTwwm7vypKYmEVq4CzgmAimCFxixylhug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wXMBwiMieoEVc+VLzhOl8uYs1PG6iy9phUMoGT5rfMlZvfMvI2rYHysE4Qz1oCwknk Sc7RHeA2iT5pQj8LATGQhsWc1XMgaK4YZN5nK/kYdevpv86+z5SZUwnJCQVho+SwaLYu ljrDFmOwHuAQJLFHk5jmhH4Cf1qcxXsKEe9aE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:27:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e9a94e65887d049b76849e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:27:17 +0000 (UTC) --001485e9a94e65887d049b76849e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lots of good advice here, I'll just chime in that the sound card does make the biggest difference in latency settings. I currently use a USB interface (as Mark does) for convenience, I previously had an M-Audio PCI card and an RME PCI card that allowed me to drop below 128. I think I could go to 32 on the RME without problems with my otherwise same setup. RME has a very attractive USB, but it's $800. Mark, if you haven't already, visit the M-Audios website for the latest drivers. You should also try ASIO for all, as it might provide better performance than the stock driver. 256 is honestly pretty sucky. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --001485e9a94e65887d049b76849e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lots of good advice here, I'll just chime in that the sound card does m= ake the biggest difference in latency settings. I currently use a USB inter= face (as Mark does) for convenience, I previously had an M-Audio PCI card a= nd an RME PCI card that allowed me to drop below 128. I think I could go to= 32 on the RME without problems with my otherwise same setup.

RME has a very attractive USB, but it's $800.

Mark, if you h= aven't already, visit the M-Audios website for the latest drivers. You = should also try ASIO for all, as it might provide better performance than t= he stock driver.

256 is honestly pretty sucky.



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--001485e9a94e65887d049b76849e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 15:57:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 724A91834D1; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4C0D72.3090405@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:30:10 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #722 for February 3, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:57:41 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110203.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #722 February 3, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Absorbed in Dreams and Yearning" on Groove Unlimited. Nattefrost: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Robert Schroeder Galaxy Cygnus-A Cygnus-A (Spheric Music) Broekhuis, Keller, The Gates of Kairuan In Repelen (Manikin) and Schonwalder Different Skies 2008 Last Tangram in That Merciless Sky (Earth Paris Mantra) Apollonius and Choose Title 2 Core (Resonating Earth) 33 Tetragammon Juta Takahashi Wet Dream * Silence (Lunisolar) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nattefrost The Battle That Absorbed in Dreams and Lasted eternally Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Where the Gods Absorbed in Dreams and Are Watching Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Through Clear and Absorbed in Dreams and Frosty Nights Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Visions of a Pale Absorbed in Dreams and Moon Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Valhal Absorbed in Dreams and Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Descending from the Absorbed in Dreams and Stars Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost Absorbed in Dreams Absorbed in Dreams and and Yearning Yearning (Groove) Nattefrost The Northern Absorbed in Dreams and Lights * Yearning (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Underneath the Night Sky" on Groove Unlimited. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 16:05:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 080F4183477; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296835500; bh=0UlWva/O8izfTfKbIouG0cAq7U5hDky3cksMqtUR3R8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EhTYzLGQ2xidDIvJY+reInrvIY7xR1lg3VQF3XY12SQLgaEUlKHkyv2mVzhvPv6XIftrhuKYHvA1FSxmzMzfWYEA+axl3Fpf85hYI/xeZIHksXNSkXvYFR8OnZMdqroNPPHcjKTPFrUxitgAIjk8PN6ObZzmWtNvqrdiXc5vIF0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ey8qyRyb6Bvc1HYByfUd+Krp7tEYp1YeWgNYmx+sjDLRizD4A4GCCq30f+f84Y6ckNSAluqZAnseRyZcHhirDjWTRUIciG6oPJNHcrlxjjqZJjyYsxF7Gb5gUAhY+9ujWcPKWYSgzvMWFsQ9q2QSgQfbovZ9PeRIZQ2sVCCzq9Q=; Message-ID: <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XILiuyUVM1nm.ZhoCEBMOan47DuGxpNvbggyduPCrZEpb84 p0JLoeS.6cOK1GCl7ntNbyXu3g82yp2REZbq3thUoSW3wrPL_p0WCXntV9L5 hinO75lGTJ62mm4n.5R_ZUINoQp_6gni2iLdqiD9981oM6HU9G0YhmYiWc8Q _EQDoPdh6AZ0YblOdMyJ4Zn08GDQt5j8INVmX5K0RU3lDmDwH4JxPvUyc6kh LXXBMr5611uTERIoqMDfr2lP.3SJsUmjFUARlsl_wcYhEfBQkGtzdwB9tpfo nIuKucMC0RVw.rB.OGdih X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-604160497-1296835500=:49938" Resent-Message-ID: <2y0oZB.A.MnD.uOCTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:05:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-604160497-1296835500=:49938 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey, I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and juicy! Antony ________________________________ From: Doug Wellington To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 4:20:14 PM Subject: Re: inexpensive synth > We're not all Americans here! Wait. You mean there's something other than Americans??? /me whistles in disbelief... [But seriously] This synth looks pretty cool. It reminds me of the interface on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use. It's an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly. And with the computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular. Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app... LOL Regards, Doug --0-604160497-1296835500=:49938 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and juicy!

Antony

From: Doug Wellington <dougwellington@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 4:20:14 PM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth

> We're not all Americans here!

Wait.  You mean there's something other than Americans???  /me whistles in disbelief...

[But seriously]  This synth looks pretty cool.  It reminds me of the interface on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use.  It's an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly.  And with the computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular.  Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app...  LOL

Regards,
Doug


--0-604160497-1296835500=:49938-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 16:14:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EC78183482; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 572741979/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlIEAA+mPE1YbRJy/2dsb2JhbAAMFZYpyWuFUASOOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="572741979" Message-ID: <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:14:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. > Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital oscillators. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 16:31:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82EC31834D9; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 489 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:31:49 UTC Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:23:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1617117013.400580.1296836620854.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: inexpensive synth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_400579_1107250724.1296836620854" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:31:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_400579_1107250724.1296836620854 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone considered the Waldorf Blofeld? A little more expensive, but quite capable and very tweakable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 11:14:59 AM Subject: Re: inexpensive synth Rainer Straschill wrote: > oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. > Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital oscillators. ------=_Part_400579_1107250724.1296836620854 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone considered the Waldorf Blofeld?  A little more expensive, but quite capable and very tweakable.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 11:14:59 AM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth


Rainer Straschill wrote:

> oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know.
>


Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital oscillators.










------=_Part_400579_1107250724.1296836620854-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 16:42:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2571B1834E6; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-702913651"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7E3470E7-811E-42E9-9255-47AED8DD4F9C@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: inexpensive synth Thread-Index: AcvEinOF6OBwcM9CQ+Cw4zVZDiRxRQ== Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:41:33 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 16:42:44.0803 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C44A130:01CBC48A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:42:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-702913651 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not inexpensive, but have you guys looked at the new Nord 3, the nord with p= iano and organ, I always wanted, but no synth, but now the three has a simpl= ified version of the nord synth in it too.=20 Just wondering what those synth geniuses here think about that, to have all i= n one would be nice.=20 Andy o On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:05 AM, wrote: > hey, >=20 > I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old a= nd juicy! >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Doug Wellington > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 4:20:14 PM > Subject: Re: inexpensive synth >=20 > > We're not all Americans here! >=20 > Wait. You mean there's something other than Americans??? /me whistles in= disbelief... >=20 > [But seriously] This synth looks pretty cool. It reminds me of the inter= face on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use. It's= an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly. And with the com= puter-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular. S= ounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app... 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Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <77827A85-B238-4408-B797-1AA7923E35DC@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: inexpensive synth Thread-Index: AcvEispENz0BCfnfTRSyCbY79XggCA== Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:43:33 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 16:44:45.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[D46AC890:01CBC48A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Speaking of emu proteus, I have an extra rack mount one somewhere if someone= wants to swap for it.=20 Andy o On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:14 AM, andy butler wrote: >=20 > Rainer Straschill wrote: >=20 >> oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. >=20 >=20 > Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital os= cillators. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 16:47:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B82183502; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 859558.49743.bm@omp1027.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296838026; bh=fpDx96peeO7Mnc7iVzmpEaba2knnL1vyW0lnb4gYQJA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LMfEg9fk7m0k0JZgnL4OSKfVZErp5k+rAWP0NDpHd+8EO8zkbZaIkkJLR+/cua4NaArmwWvkFKWJZXfm13QCFz1OoHHA7arhgicJs/vGX6hj+SAX7iIJCrEVLYAmes5fRmODz9Q8DW20P/bGqZTEmhp+07Av2L69AHSThG1qkWg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4mmbIf6K4QmovzWdpOh7XZ1w0JFUAbE1uaf0PDON2JRHO+Bwnq2K33OtbDKPdicPxzj/GlRwdHWMps8oPyLBkfWLYzI+tUV3miZBEzbLrvIsTnOUZVIudqoDAu25RfXgwcUHTbdXwlhDYHBY80Oc8IAHDGDYbHYRJqq8th82xcE=; Message-ID: <680114.6063.qm@web59709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M5eQUfkVM1nrjVn8v9htTYt6BW0nNpwKLTLgbgeJujiAe0K WFVWkxEXLJijvDnn2dXgBY1GS0fdvH52a01FXVqPFcZ4iK6FihXHJwcY6fc5 KKKIQewKXA14.YDCaChRv35_WNQFjafAAzqtSNdY5rwNUlNX5XwPo3z0wlbY 7cO8xSoWxYoLSRF9PNNBoTlNhX9aDs4LQGMIromYHfXRw7gSt9UsWz.QnzHI nSA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:47:06 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-203346917-1296838026=:6063" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:47:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-203346917-1296838026=:6063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Antony writes:=0A=0A> I am american and french too; how's that for confusio= n. Get something old and =0A>juicy!=0A=0AI have an eternal battle inside my= self. I am English, French, and German!=0A=0A=0AGerman part: "You're a wim= p!"=0AFrench part: "I'm an artiste!"=0AEnglish part: "Spot o tea, eh wot?"= =0A=0AROFL!=0A=0ARegards,=0ADoug=0A=0A(Not sure I understand the old and ju= icy part though...)=0A=0A=0A --0-203346917-1296838026=:6063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Antony writes:
> I am american = and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and juicy!

I have an eternal battle inside myself. =A0I am En= glish, French, and German!
=0A=0A

Ger= man part: "You're a wimp!"
French part: "I'm an artiste!"
=
English part: "Spot o tea, eh wot?"

ROF= L!

Regards,
Doug

(Not sure I understand the old and = juicy part though...)
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17:21:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-1635858278-1296840082=:11481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I like the Nord Modular, something you can fiddle with and make your own sounds, if not might as well use an organ... Antony ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:41:33 PM Subject: Re: inexpensive synth Not inexpensive, but have you guys looked at the new Nord 3, the nord with piano and organ, I always wanted, but no synth, but now the three has a simplified version of the nord synth in it too. Just wondering what those synth geniuses here think about that, to have all in one would be nice. Andy o On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:05 AM, wrote: hey, > > >I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and >juicy! > > >Antony > > > ________________________________ From: Doug Wellington >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 4:20:14 PM >Subject: Re: inexpensive synth > > >> We're not all Americans here! > >Wait. You mean there's something other than Americans??? /me whistles in >disbelief... > >[But seriously] This synth looks pretty cool. It reminds me of the interface >on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use. It's an >inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly. And with the >computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular. >Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app... LOL > >Regards, >Doug > > > --0-1635858278-1296840082=:11481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I like the Nord Modular, something you can fiddle with and make your own sounds, if not might as well use an organ...

Antony

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth

Not inexpensive, but have you guys looked at the new Nord 3, the nord with piano and organ, I always wanted, but no synth, but now the three has a simplified version of the nord synth in it too. 

Just wondering what those synth geniuses here think about that, to have all in one would be nice. 

Andy o



On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:05 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

hey,

I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and juicy!

Antony

From: Doug Wellington <dougwellington@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 4:20:14 PM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth

> We're not all Americans here!

Wait.  You mean there's something other than Americans???  /me whistles in disbelief...

[But seriously]  This synth looks pretty cool.  It reminds me of the interface on the AN1x and of course the Evolver and AdrenaLinns that I use.  It's an inexpensive way to access a lot of parameters quickly.  And with the computer-based patch editing, the Venom reminds me a bit of the Nord Modular.  Sounds like it's tailor made for an iPad app...  LOL

Regards,
Doug



--0-1635858278-1296840082=:11481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 17:22:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4F311834DF; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296840158; bh=Is+l3Jpsttt5oy4hChguRbI2znc3UDRraTxu4+t1un4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X4U7JpZxiiGPkrW+Q8NgxWlDRDDdAuqXquiVqbMiqFS9Oz/ps/p+TVinMgP1redHmy+b6fI8FOhnAbF0Jn/Nh1YuxdRU6V8g2vvScovo8MmnPX+LVRcR5eT1iTn2uzEohKPQQ45zP0Rix+UIEgh78B677TrYT+baoNtUcda3gdE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zSSV8d4LZ0BdioCZqwnJhQYSzHMFTl3gryE+r2CnNHixjED8DxCM1Bye1/4y4iOa2yjbk2NitXizB5nXKN1d97JZHB8DdJ0s6HFN9fBKg18WgrG9/76EbHAM2hgOQlWvbBSH5Ars7KSQrPgBvbn2UawRvnyBr63NJwIsH0Kr7Ck=; Message-ID: <276898.85917.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: N_Ojq9cVM1neT6tDJrCqtwqleYhlJWvHn4PG.GpAT5o8Ugl FDdCG5rUafQi6B3RF9zi8Th.VilJCIqNMB8fo0ufuezauIV7j26CP.pPLX7a qRljWN55PS2bsEtFKWBbnZLThNQylV1CC_8.8px9AzSXBhplw.2iAR6LfKwk RE3uMfwpTUsUswggGJOdTrHunTpwgC1X4vOSO8n5vhjykbZ8FrG30x6E4U4g QWTyoLzqdyne9dpeducj_zUp5gxbc1.gHKluU3rGOyh4gDHF4M9.JZVzDjb9 9V23.EPhENJi2l_AIjF0S X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <927199.75484.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6487397584758280387@unknownmsgid> <551329.9861.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <732828.49938.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <680114.6063.qm@web59709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:22:37 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <680114.6063.qm@web59709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-12854479-1296840157=:85917" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:22:39 +0000 (UTC) --0-12854479-1296840157=:85917 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the old and juicy was aboit old school analog synths. hey what a blend! Antony ________________________________ From: Doug Wellington To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:47:06 PM Subject: Re: inexpensive synth Antony writes: > I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and >juicy! I have an eternal battle inside myself. I am English, French, and German! German part: "You're a wimp!" French part: "I'm an artiste!" English part: "Spot o tea, eh wot?" ROFL! Regards, Doug (Not sure I understand the old and juicy part though...) --0-12854479-1296840157=:85917 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
the old and juicy was aboit old school analog synths.

hey what a blend!

Antony

From: Doug Wellington <dougwellington@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:47:06 PM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth

Antony writes:
> I am american and french too; how's that for confusion. Get something old and juicy!

I have an eternal battle inside myself.  I am English, French, and German!

German part: "You're a wimp!"
French part: "I'm an artiste!"
English part: "Spot o tea, eh wot?"

ROFL!

Regards,
Doug

(Not sure I understand the old and juicy part though...)


--0-12854479-1296840157=:85917-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 17:33:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40661834F6; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1W9bpnluWZDSldBiFIRRh6g5n2AaC6zZUJFXm7FLOd0=; b=orSXnk9kWVyfbVUD3VT74TPcJ5e84r6iTGEkQyM6BWWNKi+/fLnRyi7/zAi2B9PFIS oqahqLq+gSnCQmzw88hzmNsLnHbY+6LKN41cO8Ru00puWepl+XiFuG91CX+n34zbiVxJ ptO+FDBYwSp1zhlS2CX9DbcLkShVVvySfxxYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=IuuoXZgAYzHQyGmICEpya2ZLMBeo8/XRcc+sTsBj5pGHzFhMc03spZ+Dy4aql8HMYj 2Jj1ZD+vqJNZPH2Gm1BUs70vsmBnR01uq2ruTWWU3lDM3HE8opJuR/lt+I+wYYYwXqfI tgsVQ9daVNr4ihP6afBrk3/CY5cyR6fYeVodU= References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <77827A85-B238-4408-B797-1AA7923E35DC@1800dialword.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <77827A85-B238-4408-B797-1AA7923E35DC@1800dialword.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:33:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6713955961451203659@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:33:28 +0000 (UTC) I'm after the planet earth model?? Us yours stock or has it got any extra roms? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 4 Feb 2011, at 17:44, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Speaking of emu proteus, I have an extra rack mount one somewhere if someone wants to swap for it. > > Andy o > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> >> Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>> oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. >> >> >> Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital oscillators. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 17:35:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05810183502; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SmUlDW/W+7gzS7RzYApKq5yYPAYIG25PIJExnsmvncU=; b=hTDqGfx5SFzvj51VOMx2qephbzk2tE12teqnQuE7pLKNhBtD9zC/aTtTKboKlAXgGK yQlC7pWenN31K86/3Kbnru9v89I/16ZEc43kb2ry5WIwr6mzATr6Rru3JGKG+iTU0rBM jCnBE+7V6BVfJRgrlW3xuYPZj3QOC+O0fNTKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IR2d8QpcuHVMTXJYgvroTJNEWj5NzYkjg2886Z4n5AKekjlYFMzxSrdXWJ9vpnJ/SN EUg5A1blK8eP6pofdgJ+osYEimNw+pZaPBKuX0DKRZI5vZjzIAbCFmtaOohp8IVTzCs6 wdooHKambRtsGyRjQLOCsKqgm4q39RBdRgX9k= Message-ID: <4D4C38DE.4040602@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:35:26 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4117252309969443487@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <4117252309969443487@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-lYo7D.A.xkH.djDTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to answer/comment on various messages in one go here. First, Mark: > I have to admit that when I hear the word awesome I generally tune > out. Didn't hear it?? Did you watch the video? Too much talk from > awesome geezers of course, but sounded pretty ok to me... Bit Like a > virus tho... Did you read bad modulation somewhere? Hmmm I heard some > very modular-ish modulations going on a few times, maybe it was just > sequenced? > My statement regarding the modulation possibilities was mainly targeted at the options to use the four knobs to control a variety of parameters. Judging from the manual, you can only select one of several pre-assigned assignments (i.e. everything controls filter etc.), and only one parameter per knob. Nothing like freely assigning the parameters and even use different response curves as it is possible when assigning parameters to knobs e.g. with the Nord Modular or the Oberheim XPander. There is, in fact, a modulation matrix with 16 positions - but it also lacks non-linear response curves (like the Xpander or Matrix series) or even functions with multiple variables (as with e.g. the Nord Modular, or the Kurzweil K2x series). So it's not exactly bad - but not great either. I only started to watch the video, but stopped and decided it was "just not for me" when the second sentence was "you'll be hearing this all over the radio" ;). (but checked again - and the software editor seems to be "awesome", too. And consider this: the sound is "killer"!). Regarding the "wavetables or no" (also expanding on Andy Butler's comment): Again, judging from the manual: no, it can't do wavetables. Christophe, and Andy O (and just now, Anthony): As the discussion was about inexpensive synths - no, I didn't consider them in this context. But, yes, the Blofeld looks fun - and I can't remember a synth by Waldorf/PPG which was boring, so this would be a safe bet. Different from the Venom, it does not try to be like too many popular things at once, rather be something original with character. The Nord 3 - are you talking about the Nord Elektro 3? That wouldn't be enough synthesizer for my taste - but for what it is (a well-playable thing for important keyboard instruments which are not synths) it seems ok. Sadly, Clavia always discontinued the Modulars rather quickly. And I'm completely with you, Anthony - the Nord Modular is the mother and the son of all virtual analog synths - if you want to spend the time to goof around a lot. Plus, there's this great free pdf book about how to have fun with it. And finally, Duke: You really made my day with your post - again. Thanks! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 18:46:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CC421834B5; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296845168; bh=uf+sQgbvOQM40lDtyrjqCukgPRLoGA9Pe7lTs6voEU4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F0XzNvdTW1tNXuqrCB4H4nSk2Id5jrWZbCyuD4O5lILphzEMnFYxxHqRX7kQSVNM9OUZgr9iQvhcE+uFfVqzD1eSCLMIZGRtGFOck1Thg6+H41nuSi0qPN9LmygfWAyDUr/z5LRyVSxrN1MhaqA/F75nsqALu9mnu+6dqku75n8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QnFzNbKv/22qblEw4EWvMDivClqBcGluNJKKvtvcBNeXaq/mf9GM9chOIVpHtMVxDTxDQr8PKLh0X5h+6e2zzT8RC2oC5BYSHLS46+c/f1N23cNQ/U5LqKUZLa1zjO9eehsqcdRHDlNWZLpkO/Cl4VzJJS+30KRfXXvylBtXeB8=; Message-ID: <699915.73863.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LAYx_CEVM1kRK6atBQUDJQ4ELQf38KDe.JOgjjlVQxcXpZd p6SuTkGcOKFDKBKOWFYylZ5weRbKHLVGdVkDh7b.GB7WsOM_r.e7HuDcQPUc xf78DKAlRdZwQ5oBxh3tHTo23Hbz09Z0j7qQY8_Qf8IEaYnxSwEAjedhfWYO vh54az5N_0nRDWnqozdPy.IV85wixNyNFZI1Hx.GtOvOq2GmAwvUBNVxWvq1 c9utxzrTYaWXJiugUgvXlAc5lNlNTEduarcQQg2JIeVFZyQjqiYdTlE_DIEJ zOVC9LSqXk72ahIoB1iuQ4HrzSHg- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4117252309969443487@unknownmsgid> <4D4C38DE.4040602@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:46:08 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4C38DE.4040602@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-598705170-1296845168=:73863" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:46:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-598705170-1296845168=:73863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rainer, you are right reminding us that we are talking inexpensive. remember too that you can find used first generation racks which are still very powerful instruments. below 650 swiss francs or $600 http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/musik-und-musikinstrumente/studioequipment/synthesizer/clavia-nord-modular-rack-g1-synthesizer-30-000-sounds/v/an633236158/ ANtony ________________________________ From: Rainer Straschill To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 6:35:26 PM Subject: Re: inexpensive synth I'd like to answer/comment on various messages in one go here. First, Mark: > I have to admit that when I hear the word awesome I generally tune > out. Didn't hear it?? Did you watch the video? Too much talk from > awesome geezers of course, but sounded pretty ok to me... Bit Like a > virus tho... Did you read bad modulation somewhere? Hmmm I heard some > very modular-ish modulations going on a few times, maybe it was just > sequenced? > My statement regarding the modulation possibilities was mainly targeted at the options to use the four knobs to control a variety of parameters. Judging from the manual, you can only select one of several pre-assigned assignments (i.e. everything controls filter etc.), and only one parameter per knob. Nothing like freely assigning the parameters and even use different response curves as it is possible when assigning parameters to knobs e.g. with the Nord Modular or the Oberheim XPander. There is, in fact, a modulation matrix with 16 positions - but it also lacks non-linear response curves (like the Xpander or Matrix series) or even functions with multiple variables (as with e.g. the Nord Modular, or the Kurzweil K2x series). So it's not exactly bad - but not great either. I only started to watch the video, but stopped and decided it was "just not for me" when the second sentence was "you'll be hearing this all over the radio" ;). (but checked again - and the software editor seems to be "awesome", too. And consider this: the sound is "killer"!). Regarding the "wavetables or no" (also expanding on Andy Butler's comment): Again, judging from the manual: no, it can't do wavetables. Christophe, and Andy O (and just now, Anthony): As the discussion was about inexpensive synths - no, I didn't consider them in this context. But, yes, the Blofeld looks fun - and I can't remember a synth by Waldorf/PPG which was boring, so this would be a safe bet. Different from the Venom, it does not try to be like too many popular things at once, rather be something original with character. The Nord 3 - are you talking about the Nord Elektro 3? That wouldn't be enough synthesizer for my taste - but for what it is (a well-playable thing for important keyboard instruments which are not synths) it seems ok. Sadly, Clavia always discontinued the Modulars rather quickly. And I'm completely with you, Anthony - the Nord Modular is the mother and the son of all virtual analog synths - if you want to spend the time to goof around a lot. Plus, there's this great free pdf book about how to have fun with it. And finally, Duke: You really made my day with your post - again. Thanks! Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs --0-598705170-1296845168=:73863 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Rainer,
you are right reminding us that we are talking inexpensive.

remember too that you can find used first generation racks which are still very powerful instruments. below 650 swiss francs or $600


ANtony

From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 6:35:26 PM
Subject: Re: inexpensive synth

I'd like to answer/comment on various messages in one go here. First, Mark:

> I have to admit that when I hear the word awesome I generally tune
> out. Didn't hear it?? Did you watch the video? Too much talk from
> awesome geezers of course, but sounded pretty ok to me... Bit Like a
> virus tho... Did you read bad modulation somewhere? Hmmm I heard some
> very modular-ish modulations going on a few times, maybe it was just
> sequenced?
> 
My statement regarding the modulation possibilities was mainly targeted at the options to use the four knobs to control a variety of parameters.
Judging from the manual, you can only select one of several pre-assigned assignments (i.e. everything controls filter etc.), and only one parameter per knob. Nothing like freely assigning the parameters and even use different response curves as it is possible when assigning parameters to knobs e.g. with the Nord Modular or the Oberheim XPander.

There is, in fact, a modulation matrix with 16 positions - but it also lacks non-linear response curves (like the Xpander or Matrix series) or even functions with multiple variables (as with e.g. the Nord Modular, or the Kurzweil K2x series).

So it's not exactly bad - but not great either.

I only started to watch the video, but stopped and decided it was "just not for me" when the second sentence was "you'll be hearing this all over the radio" ;).
(but checked again - and the software editor seems to be "awesome", too. And consider this: the sound is "killer"!).

Regarding the "wavetables or no" (also expanding on Andy Butler's comment):
Again, judging from the manual: no, it can't do wavetables.

Christophe, and Andy O (and just now, Anthony):
As the discussion was about inexpensive synths - no, I didn't consider them in this context.

But, yes, the Blofeld looks fun - and I can't remember a synth by Waldorf/PPG which was boring, so this would be a safe bet. Different from the Venom, it does not try to be like too many popular things at once, rather be something original with character.

The Nord 3 - are you talking about the Nord Elektro 3? That wouldn't be enough synthesizer for my taste - but for what it is (a well-playable thing for important keyboard instruments which are not synths) it seems ok. Sadly, Clavia always discontinued the Modulars rather quickly.

And I'm completely with you, Anthony - the Nord Modular is the mother and the son of all virtual analog synths - if you want to spend the time to goof around a lot. Plus, there's this great free pdf book about how to have fun with it.

And finally, Duke:
You really made my day with your post - again. Thanks!

            Rainer

-- http://moinlabs.de
Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs


--0-598705170-1296845168=:73863-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 19:55:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E8CA183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x8cWYdJ0+ATkjQrgzLRCVb9Kv/veT0Y7uMwF1FxKSPA=; b=vuCKO6RqFQr53OCTNoqj6F4ltIUFCoRufSMMPVdizcURAo0FyrnDTYQHMo3H0aMhTz ANI2EkKPsoYCRZHzypFCIhdD8iPDxPpT1VqPXL/ImHYeIvNlQAWmTuR+/D9dX+TqNmc/ Mk0W9Ov+izMwpE/dk4ysp3ymQCZ/o24oENzN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Azj5vVdTlHkpPMjlMTB6ik8PfdZRWeQ50zTD88dNNRg6JHhxespkgWicZjZkY1c6f5 OpdyX0oSc33du9Sez1aFIno//YoAp+k1xf6fPKJkgktxM0XMM0wkLTiZYXHSAQgKkWo9 m7wHzcxANIboCoDcu3o0JYgnfq+LmIrkfDbCI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Latency Problems From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Andy, First, is it a Mac Powerbook or a MacBook (different models, different processors). Hopefully, it's an Intel-based MacBook because that will support the newer software... Next, find out how much RAM is installed and, if possible, max it out. Then find out how big the hard drive, how fast it is, and if you can put a faster hard drive in. After that, let your self run wild.... Have fun! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >> If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface >> and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! > > Ok good segueway, as I've been wanting to ask this question. ;) > > My brother is giving me a handmedown laptop, a couple of year old Mac Pow= erbook. I am not sure the model but he would only have the top of line (ric= h doctor!!) > > So I figure I would send it to my buddy who manages a Apple store, =A0wip= e it clean, start fresh, then set it up ONLY for looping. > > So what should I get to go with that? Or us Apple not the way? > > Man this is the dark dark side for this lp1 user!!!!! > > Andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 20:22:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CD1E183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Latency Problems References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: Latency Problems Thread-Index: AcvEqSKeANQYxI3SRNm/XPrLhyLCxw== Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:21:16 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 20:22:18.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[384AE2A0:01CBC4A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Luckily I got a buddy runs an Apple store, just gonna send straight there? Soundcard etc? Will Live run on that? Andy On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Andy, >=20 > First, is it a Mac Powerbook or a MacBook (different models, different > processors). Hopefully, it's an Intel-based MacBook because that will > support the newer software... > Next, find out how much RAM is installed and, if possible, max it out. > Then find out how big the hard drive, how fast it is, and if you can > put a faster hard drive in. >=20 > After that, let your self run wild.... >=20 > Have fun! >=20 > Best, >=20 > Dennis >=20 > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >>=20 >> On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Dennis Moser wrote:= >>=20 >>> If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface >>> and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! >>=20 >> Ok good segueway, as I've been wanting to ask this question. ;) >>=20 >> My brother is giving me a handmedown laptop, a couple of year old Mac Pow= erbook. I am not sure the model but he would only have the top of line (rich= doctor!!) >>=20 >> So I figure I would send it to my buddy who manages a Apple store, wipe i= t clean, start fresh, then set it up ONLY for looping. >>=20 >> So what should I get to go with that? Or us Apple not the way? >>=20 >> Man this is the dark dark side for this lp1 user!!!!! >>=20 >> Andy >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 20:41:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A47E4183482; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4RFSqj3cr1KX7U1HoiBQ6AQrsor60F5tw+kDj6CYfjs=; b=Ita9NVXRDSld7aRV5pxOtK/k2OCMgSX4bZ0GZTzE0fekPhAmPTiA3PEdDqIAT482Ct bgULAdNaSmn+FN83JazfJW1kYVZSeOvmNwIypebtxfSnVFKJIhlsx8W3XbbNl5qPgqvC vZZxZXnA/uUuhWqqJOs3F4fwnri+tRiJ9LgKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kwT6vGCS0ww8I2nhNL1bOjx0axG1z+8dvI4CoSNfYeEGlwRO5VkW4amF+0+CdxmJvW s1w7+zusGINYWIi/DGMadZWjhneD91IApUdRYCU+yu9uvq/t7/JyQjYHH4UlBARERVV8 0UcoE+zrTRbm2njcHLvQNlEf3qX6jtbCq5lq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:41:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: What to do w/ the Mac From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5aFEU.A.nhH.LSGTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Andy, You need to know which model it is so you know how much it can be upgraded...and what you will be able to run on it after you do. Ableton Live will almost certainly run on it. As for a soundcard, what you really need will be an audio interface, as Mac notebooks don't have user-serviceable "sound cards" per se...and knowing which Mac it is will determine what interface you'll be able to use effectively (there were changes in the Firewire ports at one stage in the laptops history...so it's an important thing to know). Hope this helps. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Luckily I got a buddy runs an Apple store, just gonna send straight there= ? > > Soundcard etc? > > Will Live run on that? > > Andy > > > > On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >> Andy, >> >> First, is it a Mac Powerbook or a MacBook (different models, different >> processors). Hopefully, it's an Intel-based MacBook because that will >> support the newer software... >> Next, find out how much RAM is installed and, if possible, max it out. >> Then find out how big the hard drive, how fast it is, and if you can >> put a faster hard drive in. >> >> After that, let your self run wild.... >> >> Have fun! >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Andy Owens wrote= : >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Dennis Moser wrot= e: >>> >>>> If you've anything to sell, do so...get a good sound card/interface >>>> and a copy of bidule...Come to the Not-So-Dark Side! >>> >>> Ok good segueway, as I've been wanting to ask this question. ;) >>> >>> My brother is giving me a handmedown laptop, a couple of year old Mac P= owerbook. I am not sure the model but he would only have the top of line (r= ich doctor!!) >>> >>> So I figure I would send it to my buddy who manages a Apple store, =A0w= ipe it clean, start fresh, then set it up ONLY for looping. >>> >>> So what should I get to go with that? Or us Apple not the way? >>> >>> Man this is the dark dark side for this lp1 user!!!!! >>> >>> Andy >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 21:35:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCFBB183475; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 398646.111.bm@omp1067.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296855344; bh=eT8A6Q+9cZ97JowPgTwAhtmxF7jN3qfai7S3whxONsM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xRSJMDH5dN4Zgdj7Yi9exuS1gjRn+xGwVBaxFxqAml1witu/qtWmptmi7vPYbx9SpSziO9811ddE3mmhukFNykauQc8q3hEClSCR3XVAM9Ziy4x+xwpyCM5yk6XoUQJCgYy5ztlLecqsznpmF3uEzSisnosgYqptKGApC+zvN54= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gzDu0srOmU7FRpQo+eBYcFsEp2B8EXn0Y+PL5/6VG+cg9tBvcBGtP6oVxROGEx6FPVteW13hEOBc9oM4ErgRWam5O9GnOpapEMvUZxhb42PFxcE8Y+t1jI1x5AKn32eV14UQMnANHdeX5SXLWUWZRQcKsd6wIgbyTEcPwpQ5mJI=; Message-ID: <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JT90jRsVM1naOvKopK8vTHOx9yOi54YxAB.tw2R6KKr50Qu tdh_z5w.cUSN1ro5OMluyTC2odMbley05zktr_twBS0CtARMgBBeTI3m_Bhv YCFi3NNHooWZVwcqyYcYExyZNBqDyovXXZl.mZTnk7Hy_X4NRVphiy5AxeAC Sk7Bx8xlQrr4doDUCtLotFILS.766IPNRu5AedUf8GOq9NjIVBjrqSacVo_e zUSLGGfgyPzAHEolt.LkrucbmHrg7RLiTeH1PDl3mbR4kgawhFkpANSOL.9f wieakct1sp4ipw7xLycJG_CZjW_u2chSmFW_gXc0hCdcoVObJg.Ef4jiDOw1 esralSHn6ksA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:35:43 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:35:45 +0000 (UTC) [WARNING: serious post ahead! Doesn't happen often with me...] >> oscillator waves in "tables" - can it do wavetables? We don't know. > > Using "tables" is the standard programming technique for making digital >oscillators. There's a difference between a look up table ("LUT") and a wavetable... LUTs are definitely used for digital oscillators when you don't have enough available power to calculate the wave in real time or when you want to generate an arbitrary function. A LUT is really just a list of precalculated wave values for one complete oscillation. (For some symmetrical waves, the LUT may only list the first half or first quarter of the wave.) A wavetable is a series of such precalculated waves. For sound generation, the cool thing about that is you can choose which wave or waves you want to use for a particular sound. You can sweep through part or all of the table to get a particular sound and/or morph from one wave to another over some period of time while interpolating between the two... Regards, Doug You can pry my Microwave XT from my cold dead fingers! LOL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 21:53:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8BDF18345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Y+A= AlpJ BdRV EMMx Efv0 EsXZ E32Q E4iZ E+6O Gi5g Gu1b HogV IwJd KExo KIrw KsLw;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{B5ACE0A6-433B-407C-86AB-40E58C18CC0A};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:36:53 GMT;TgBPAHIAZAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {B5ACE0A6-433B-407C-86AB-40E58C18CC0A} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: NOrd Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:53:35 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NOrd Thread-Index: AcvEpYvAGos8RTfDS0aCHbV4OedFFgADarDw References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 21:53:51.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[026D98A0:01CBC4B6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:53:54 +0000 (UTC) I was wrong about the model number on the Nord, the new one will be organ, piano and synth, it is the NS 2 Compact, 73, 76 or 80 something keys. I saw it at NAMM and it is awesome, but high, list $4k yikes!!! Cant even google it yet, but talked to a guy at the USA distributor. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:02:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65958183461; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 967764.76664.bm@omp1056.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296856964; bh=zTaT1LmnAmHYFT1yLpcH9mNnY32afNz7YpATRNiQAi4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jsjXNOHW1UybqeUhs+UhfWan4JG7rnM6tIuE1YcVkIRNcdhX3v2bx2wt8jiqF2361NPojnrD4GA17iQiozn+h6lThgULJo3Ro8w8/oUhHNvycWqD5XzvwlaIZ37qj5spwUTmhrbTI7RqdNWp748mhMx9UvGYtJdtDWnVy7TytWQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VmWlEQ3aY0fNbOVEnI4fWz8oy7/56OEDCH6XO237UshFb6EbObGJUpi/mpwtHfXN7WkJYzmqZdrLow+1VSj8EBcD6lfXM8v+7kuBRXblzyU0xbrPq4UwZDQimtPdB2E9VNcFjNlbJeNj0t7xL1JTuV3LbrIj6p+5q8+j0olVfo4=; Message-ID: <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: G0OsxM4VM1ktFrPC.1_LOqXkSkFRpn1SCaRLNTI9ubHgCxy QmeppeIQ57y.hWFq5d0INuaxdO1To_E6MwJ2FbiPi1qbS5wgOBT74vCg.NU5 Yrm1D3oZ48P5QTqCPM9_JixGdMBbPNejjjPih0DadENia3EkC15rnjsrVJnY XguBSJ.gfxF7Fx0CC1RQ9kD6KNXoDwUA57T.G5C7HjjaFheFpfT4SbaXJSjf 24MdoDiPb7vIc X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Sounds interesting, but there are those of us who will only ever buy one more synth from Clavia. The Nord Modular G3! 'course, I'd rather they finish tweaking the G2... Regards, Doug My G2x is right up there with my Microwave XT for last synth standing... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:08:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C31A0183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296857321; bh=MVZ8IE9VE4DzG1Ax7unet/nNOu2NJdwMeQcNPetA0TM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jszzTxm8qxw4GCFG3z6WpZdaK20SnVhSYWOwR6S/rTxrCbYm5iwnNxr3DGGAEzWvIITpnIMacXmc/Y/47A/MeKiI2OjD1E9K9Uxl9jHT7Tb73/HhENRwa5kCKr8/K1cptGQpFuaBOR1juj6wgBWXaEGjH3KlHGIBsQGrkJnkC+E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DD9TC7OvtYM9CM9ix2EZdRvKyJW+r/Ko3++ayYyrG9jfOQSTd3wNwmFEq9i+chJem+rpzwZw42f4kCZb2wV0GsLNkmOP5aOSFCJOdgqRsjugDTVKUOp2Z4IaHR80Y6EzU9iqRwdf3XMBwlTt0eXEQGSoETphvzT7SUtL67AH+mw=; Message-ID: <525738.46507.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IGkV99EVM1nWUID3ThpLRbOnE7Lbs_0rcQXXTv42kmtBh3q 6.yt.rU01EmboxL4Rn9v8nDFYB4w.gmEiD2WYpynpxp2vjlYjR9FTzKBD9.l QgouaRafcjCldyRil4OxIywh9lWNv_tYAJf3cllZHYDVuY23PDBdT5_ymY03 iZaQXvkOqwDbSAaFsNlx_Rs83UZJQFtjegADv21wBwjCjrw.dl.gFT.veWEi ZtGzhckTHHy2rW84dlXSubBUFsRd7cugU6zPRFcMRRl94F7h0Glk94hHARXU Uq1hU8PE2KEgVjge1srE9 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:08:41 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1695659103-1296857321=:46507" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:08:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-1695659103-1296857321=:46507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a G2X it's very powerful. Still like having some analog alongside: Prophet 08 does that part for me. Antony ________________________________ From: Doug Wellington To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 11:02:44 PM Subject: Re: NOrd Sounds interesting, but there are those of us who will only ever buy one more synth from Clavia. The Nord Modular G3! 'course, I'd rather they finish tweaking the G2... Regards, Doug My G2x is right up there with my Microwave XT for last synth standing... --0-1695659103-1296857321=:46507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have a G2X it's very powerful. Still like having some analog alongside: Prophet 08 does that part for me.

Antony

From: Doug Wellington <dougwellington@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 11:02:44 PM
Subject: Re: NOrd

Sounds interesting, but there are those of us who will only ever buy one more
synth from Clavia.  The Nord Modular G3!

'course, I'd rather they finish tweaking the G2...

Regards,
Doug


My G2x is right up there with my Microwave XT for last synth standing...


     


--0-1695659103-1296857321=:46507-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:09:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86A52183477; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" Cc: Subject: OT: Using Eon's Oblique Strategies to get unstuck in the Studio Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:08:51 -0600 Message-ID: <008301cbc4b8$21d27ba0$657772e0$@michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBC485.D73A7CA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AcvEuA696JYwHaqqTTqaPdSkisSuaw== X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBC485.D73A7CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://uxmag.com/design/ux-ideas-in-the-cards The article above discusses using cards for designing user experience but within it is a pericope on Brian Eno and his Oblique Strategies for getting unstuck in the studio! There are text versions of his cards included in the article and a webpage version http://minimaldesign.net/os/ as well. Cool info, I didn't realize Eno did this. ~Peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.zenstorming.com ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBC485.D73A7CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The =  article above  discusses using cards for designing user = experience but within it is a pericope on Brian Eno and his Oblique = Strategies for getting unstuck in the studio!

 

There are = text versions of his cards included in the article and a webpage version = http://minimaldesign.net/os/ = as well.

 

Cool info, I didn't realize Eno did = this.

 

 

~Peace~

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01CBC485.D73A7CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:10:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19D0B183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4C7956.1090102@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 14:10:30 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: inexpensive synth References: <6713955961451203659@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <6713955961451203659@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I'm after the planet earth model?? Us yours stock or has it got any extra roms? > > Mark Just as a proud point of information: many of the instruments in the Planet Earth collection were sampled by me from my personal world music collection. I also contributed advice on the final sample selection for the EMU Carnaval module as well. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:17:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39FCC183474; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AI0e AKsI Aeyk BmaO CUsn DgSg Er8J EuJc E2bl HVra HlfG KDy+ Ko7v Ksav K4D1 K6Ia;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{F4F6C0ED-F53F-4E2D-A37C-81FCF243CF2D};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:00:06 GMT;TgBvAHIAZAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {F4F6C0ED-F53F-4E2D-A37C-81FCF243CF2D} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Nord Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:16:48 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9D02@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <4D4C7956.1090102@cruzio.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Nord Thread-Index: AcvEuF2CTYcwEsciQ5CIWLwEpqkl1QAAYhHw References: <6713955961451203659@unknownmsgid> <4D4C7956.1090102@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2011 22:17:06.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[41C9A900:01CBC4B9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Oh here it is http://www.musiciansbuy.com/nord-ns2-76.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 22:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F804183476; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ia0942GDi2bcLPIT7WRNAqDveZEnDRjnpX69BB0P1L8=; b=ZZ/FuSfFnFSPBReDslG59V2unaPH6jZksL/D4kfXEX/+kovtKYeazr43j4KJ7a00Lc b6ugDzRYT7AKWh4CKTvMn7Kglu4x+t+/tEXMN5fxwSi+hiVfaByk0JzV1sgJuPHUgSrD dYzz6KVFgyWuF4xLWZSxAKV99LT6/MQrv4D+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w5+w+XDKIJNLVGejAVBQ8le65rgsDx+SFhRRbdGgydf7HbWhUtE3x1pKyJe+meg/hP G2fGysdtXjtDeXexQQKcne1hnrkvscW/w4zpKOhm3P0ZSKXfyQgIP5KOMl1TW7VR40Md ogNS4bzx0bocNi55F7HcA4iPoI0Epm1sIPajQ= Message-ID: <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:41:37 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: NOrd References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Doug Wellington schrieb: > Sounds interesting, but there are those of us who will only ever buy one more > synth from Clavia. The Nord Modular G3! > The Nord Modular series is (for me) one of the coolest things in synth history. Why? Apart from it basically bringing the power (in terms of flexibility) of an oldskool modular synth into a small box, I believe one of the most important features is the really well-done editor. So although I wouldn't go as far as choose the Microwave as last synth standing (Q user btw), I agree regarding the Modular. My second choice might be the Kurzweil K2600XS (with emphasis on the "S", because live sampling is really fun - check out Rigs! by Matt Davignon featuring Thomas DiMuzio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6SSlv-1Zew. It also has one of those clicheé moments when Thomas says "ahhh....what was I talking about?...never mind, let's just listen to some Bob Marley"). So speaking about the G3: what would you like to have for it? My choices: * self-definable wavetables * samples * something like the FS1R has with those odd formant things. * some way to do mathematical stuff in simpler terms (i.e. a module where you can freely define a function with multiple input variables - even something like a Si(x) ) Rainer ps: about that statement by andy o "to have all in one would be nice" (paraphrasing here). An instrument which can create or emulate any sound imaginable was promised with the very first synthesizers - this promise still hasn't been kept even by the most advanced thingies. I don't believe in that "one synth to rule them all" hope - after all, if most guitarists (or other instrumentalists) have more than one instrument just for the guitar sound, why would you believe that one instrument would be sufficient for just any sound? ;) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 4 23:21:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E3BC18345E; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 23:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 293251.45346.bm@omp1057.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296861683; bh=kZ7UxptJ9ztlOaYYCBWYriVCgim4Sfym2IUaQJj5EaU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0tpEjW/aLDRXosbhrXoV2H1H4WE0FgYk2VjTRXsTR8evqNqiuBzRkl6v95DnPYaRKsBGcNoH4U9sllceZGBv8kjYp3aXAxq5AAnQQqYqzyV3Jc9Tfhx9qMG1tYTnWHd8+ti+jIWhFX9/DwYXlKv+xrqhck1ExUKkY3K4L0qxk28= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tvMvQEiGSJ+CVwI4qMvz8jqvF87G1xWMcIJo8fUxBwbeMjCfcnGL0jsBFfL1Eyj2UtiOKRz4IMHoNqjgJgSBpBIbzw9aM+jPSOR/uCWFKrDWlSQ/vYSWkwXb5MKflebaSacJ+SJ6f1E8ZHGdQS9xikbUf8yP63pGvshGbnoy4wo=; Message-ID: <120583.83113.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zDKkihEVM1nlYFTi5yzBzf.YJUY6FONJAjr4LljuC3hXGJ5 608ygZuNVh51nYHeUIyCTE7AveEvwth00b1sSaOSk2BPDFUB9r8.55O_JF37 s.GTS12hT03xb5qEzsfgcqBplQZhkZloURwGj3FXIAjiohWuMzkVHm.J1kPB lsC6Bj3ywCvY6rRFAdKuMZqPFZp11N2TNSFDF0FWkOdchdTj1ypmPOaHJOyk oiY5RYiQ6MafNzIcKw0hxWVBwX8vzxiLJziSy7edAmecX_5OeuYTyK1ZuIxG VtluEFUTsQYsnhMBpDokXOXHk_A35U13MHmxx8zrOpj6ehZCU7g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442><69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <525738.46507.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:21:22 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <525738.46507.qm@web120714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 23:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Antony writes: > I have a G2X it's very powerful. Still like having some analog alongside: > Prophet 08 does that part for me. I keep meaning to check out the Prophet 08... I have a couple desktop Evolvers that I love... Regards, Doug Does an EDP count as analog? It's so phat and organic sounding...! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 01:47:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2715218345C; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tpiS5uWqS5wo5MhNmqw48BbCTSxsIAtYOm/5H9lheWk=; b=qq/2sS9iKNBPHt/5kG9NAe1TRVuEAsh+kLWhA8j1UFB2bRY7WnzVtwzR84Ohpl5r5X DAAJrJAtppu8myca90gdjFKnT4aJ3eCMjP20ylRd1ayYWS7RXCvgiwKPn0wfjBaWYkYd H6quVvFjLjl3p3JZMWlRd3EsKbHNVqNG7ujP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TsOK2O71/pBLfgXX91qrY/jRCOYwwWDDfkNa9TBoB+eAXlL1eNdcSpX1aEfw+RpJfe eRxYSy+VzUsi12Fhf/UNRO976C5+NoSfvqaeUiA08vk3rkmSTp168qR8xNe6/ohQFfSx UUUTkn1MrSx0TstV/HNSo6VXtdFc/g5g6CUM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9D02@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <6713955961451203659@unknownmsgid> <4D4C7956.1090102@cruzio.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9D02@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 02:47:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nord From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364274b4e2a16b049b7f2db2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 01:47:20 +0000 (UTC) --0016364274b4e2a16b049b7f2db2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FNORD --0016364274b4e2a16b049b7f2db2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 FNORD


--0016364274b4e2a16b049b7f2db2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 05:47:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A096B183476; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 05:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: NOrd References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> Thread-Topic: NOrd Thread-Index: AcvE+A0ycn0Wp9C+R4eh1RjqGwycrg== Message-ID: <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 00:46:06 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2011 05:47:12.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[2304C600:01CBC4F8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 05:47:14 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Rainer Straschill wro= te: > after all, if most guitarists (or other instrumentalists) have more than o= ne instrument just for the guitar sound, why would you believe that one inst= rument would be sufficient for just any sound? ;) True my Rain man, but I have six mandolins, most people could get by with on= e for four or five styles!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 09:33:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCFF718347C; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4D1683.9050604@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:21:07 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:33:03 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, February 5 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 15:50:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D254D18347C; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Qnu2R6A8lDk5YuGt1CfkTcFDT9rYv7KmX4/2+3nt7Cs=; b=ViPza0jx0zqQtBePmVTo9ZLn4N9k/SzWY6SYG/N9Bx9oWeIsWgytbCK/9gPPAXiiFk FhCKS5TdQtX2xZl7ClTKHywV6Y1+Px0vsNfdPNZQtjCQrvTJui/OoQQ1albSvr4bYZyV niWD+0CMaWrxUmZvHT3OPGyf3bKgfTMb6eVgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hnBXuoR+YIkTFckpmw7aM5QpxnX0pjtkmhbupVaXliEj/RuSwQRVPZWZlv/DwLxfYC YwLaCUSjwVPc/QnmDnKWhkGY7wUyKpj3BuIF9njJbNJfPnpm9k+QAL+vZJEfnfX7eRD2 /WRLWUzv/jdBFYHMHm8M307O+bJJINeh3iHgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:50:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NOrd From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304347a26281b1049b8af6d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304347a26281b1049b8af6d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 so many cool synths...so little money. by the way, if anybody has a lead on an fs1r or roland mks-50, let me know. - jim p.s. - doug, thanks for the response on the eventide forum. that place is just about useless. --20cf304347a26281b1049b8af6d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so many cool synths...so little money.

by the way, if anybody has a = lead on an fs1r or roland mks-50, let me know.

- jim

p.s. - d= oug, thanks for the response on the eventide forum.=A0 that place is just a= bout useless.

--20cf304347a26281b1049b8af6d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 16:21:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE5B18347E; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=9lBpqW9TkboVjg6pCKJ3EKZe7CucGF8bSBX5lTqnXuI=; b=fdSj/pn8oglfV0rRJUb9RY3yX1FmG+aQySHZTS3EhtPrlXG2JYPjGduCctxO6xRGx4 ERDTZ2IMn/UHQgtjiJq05/RKsK2KrH9YNVldyGjldnE4Hzo+1Su6GGznX581sb8hurAD 6rj6O3m6wzU3QuOYcgXPHCglGDfKTJWd60ZRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=JvlUDXwAlJMGjAOS9+1esfMiiyXNlMBHCfYu56fVKufvwBc/NgE9iXGNHOOgd2KeJo pCqEv2sIZxd9GBiZFzJtVs+cQp4o7c/bNm8uzRWa51gvCcB+TicRluU4GC6ZJjb1aORi il8xPY8agW1RUydwKo1+lJ4PzLJwEcvyCPx0A= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-788118851 Subject: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:21:38 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-788118851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok = computer this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this = video take is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems = like every time I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was = supposed to hit at an important time or if I focus on hitting the = footswitches at the right moment then I f' up the music making. I need = another brain. A core 2 duo brain so I can multitask! http://vimeo.com/19597693 -Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-1-788118851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I did = a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok computer = this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this video = take is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems like = every time I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was = supposed to hit at an important time or if I focus on hitting the = footswitches at the right moment then I f' up the music making. I need = another brain. A core 2 duo brain so I can multitask!


http://vimeo.com/19597693

-Todd Matthews




= --Apple-Mail-1-788118851-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 16:26:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2837118347A; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LQAdPsWlseTaWjpoGp3wbHJ/zMhDS5WlqED3NjjlkIg=; b=s8XISCSyQ80BkIc5Ewx3FlgW+J5Hqlqn7TOuv5ywqGy1uT8xV56d+t/7GzrPKmsxbf 2vcwxbEtm7buL2usH5ysMhC4mVW1Gs6/GwYQxtIhW94VKKHQGCOaMAeh55djWp1JOdL4 OssDqAECUC0UjLBnFVaA3W8M2hHs9Lf56d2mA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bHGn4/igjv+ub861qu/ANnR7jIKX790T+QwK9mfh5nllJ5c+eBdyB0dh7Q03OZunzT BEnL728I5g85OMNO/Myc244I1xZYcy9pLEDxqbE0B+DwmFDULl1QXzCEe+udyLIzwTXj 1y9XEtDpGi645zsl/7KGxB6DX9szChcM9RTso= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:26:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a541f764ae049b8b75b8 Resent-Message-ID: <2uc3-B.A.ANF.2oXTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:26:30 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a541f764ae049b8b75b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, who doesnt ? :-D A great piece, once again! the sound of double bass is so powerful and full in texture! 2011/2/5 Todd Matthews > I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok computer > this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this video take > is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems like every time I > focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was supposed to hit at an > important time or if I focus on hitting the footswitches at the right moment > then I f' up the music making. I need another brain. A core 2 duo brain so I > can multitask! > > > http://vimeo.com/19597693 > > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a541f764ae049b8b75b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, who doesnt ? :-D

A great piece, once again! the sound of doubl= e bass is so powerful and full in texture!

2011/2/5 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Sur= prises off of ok computer this morning. I still have a lot of issues to wor= k out but this video take is as good as I can play it at this moment in tim= e. Seems like every time I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I = was supposed to hit at an important time or if I focus on hitting the foots= witches at the right moment then I f' up the music making. I need anoth= er brain. A core 2 duo brain so I can multitask!


http://vime= o.com/19597693


-Todd Matthews







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http= ://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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--20cf3054a541f764ae049b8b75b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 17:11:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A24C183482; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HPE40YQ9+jTxjS9MkbtQrosIR8CmJHGPOKvhopCYUC0=; b=vzOBMhGq7nFLnCIeneNTr8tdjE8TZVhWIMfXeylJlnZia7kxFJJS+IgpZbRYeEXGzK R2899R95QgrupBS2VJKrtHk5vBa7wb2J4+Hzk6v5uBayvwN5VmmgSqfm0LspZXkQdCau 5pqC/dLp0yxQQEjDmXL4Qvii1hSmk7MU0szEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MPGPpOwLY/Fofad7pQoN79Nb1rcam/gQGWr9mU9exdHXcqt8whvlXmmzur999+Edws RbDY9LdieXEpyuI/Bla+zyzO/+v14fBAZ0U77wNE4SurSt9joaOYIuv7slykfS/4EY5b N0uabBzzsLGSfs2RaCzfzhIzpEZUo7CxxrzoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT? - Sound design with Mobius From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <0d0KoC.A.p9G.rSYTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone, I've been messing around with Mobius, trying to use it like a sampler/effect to create some sounds. This is similar to what I used to do with my repeater, but the approach is different (on the repeater I would slow down the loop to 1 bpm and send pitch-shift and volume commands at the same time to the track). goo.gl/ms4Sd Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 20:33:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8818183480; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 723656.40063.bm@omp1046.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296938013; bh=Mtw7hz51dAh3FtYTmwF3KTMvDnmRWMdewFnkYY30UT8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0NX5E48UBp/mUw/OOnyfUgF06rgmx+69cN2EMMu2OQdnQY9lyZhjdCo0PQtITDyNT4+P7BoR/MTCgt8r6Xkz47jXPoqAp/2DMlaH87G7f+qHAivM00fa2KZvyAKoB/9OQz9wvkiTUJ1bbA7WT1YsdoP6CYrb80lWsQNwmn7ijTo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UKeJFoc8btahJTxYuoSaHr0HhXFs00moQSooGRpPEAsT0+NyReMpc43tBCGkK/zt2T55HvOjbDcxzJvllg1cmH2yKpWQFig4WvHafkcsWPLu83bgsRhT3nyWWS5iZj5e3alype0st0O1xBmC6Qxkkg3sTHbB3ZIMjRCCsU2RVAw=; Message-ID: <501172.75769.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _4EZanQVM1mnWbp4ZaPKs8L2a4x_tgcZUokj8llvjeh5rLg LXMpJrOwle0mfzLNbPDuLZig_sO9rA9MYP8bYqSP99Pji9EsD2Yi5l1VhIrE Dwgb3XvHkA02ZQIeEfueur4cBu93x6PPkJrs7sQeOJ8f7o1ogO19YbSEX9Fw 44ZRg5WAMdbOZhNX5_iUQWAN65bqITmNFeF8e2SGvE_xFt5nRDiW4UcGfUq7 a6GEY3Ehq9wq2d3mWRiC0z842WzNIAeoNos13GBr0GDh_RWMCTqJNqDtnD6p LoiPazNc_U2.In0JYNsLFEhVvU9Q9faA04gfO.QUz1GwQese8Pw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:33:33 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1028946763-1296938013=:75769" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-1028946763-1296938013=:75769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > so many cool synths...so little money. Heehee, ain't it the truth! Funny, I started to build my own stuff, but that turned out to be *more* expensive! Yipes... > by the way, if anybody has a lead on an fs1r or roland mks-50, let me know. Both outstanding synths! When I got my FS1R, I started to think about selling my SY-99. (And I had lusted for a 99 for *years*!) And the MKS-50 really sucks for hoovers! > p.s. - doug, thanks for the response on the eventide forum. that place is just >about useless. Glad to help! Yeah, it kills me, Eventide makes such great hardware, but it seems their management is completely focused on the data loggers. Nick is a good guy though. I keep wondering if I should start my own unmoderated Eventide users forum - I'm hoping to go live with patchlibrary.net sometime this year and really start trying to build a synth programmer's community. That will definitely have an Eventide section... With the new remote control software, I'm hoping to make the Harmonizer easier to use for looping too... :D Regards, Doug --0-1028946763-1296938013=:75769 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> so many cool synths...so little money.

Heehee, ain't it the truth!  Funny, I started to build my own stuff, but that turned out to be *more* expensive!  Yipes...

> by the way, if anybody has a lead on an fs1r or roland mks-50, let me know.

Both outstanding synths!  When I got my FS1R, I started to think about selling my SY-99.  (And I had lusted for a 99 for *years*!)  And the MKS-50 really sucks for hoovers!

> p.s. - doug, thanks for the response on the eventide forum.  that place is just about useless.

Glad to help!  Yeah, it kills me, Eventide makes such great hardware, but it seems their management is completely focused on the data loggers.  Nick is a good guy though.  I keep wondering if I should start my own unmoderated Eventide users forum - I'm hoping to go live with patchlibrary.net sometime this year and really start trying to build a synth programmer's community.  That will definitely have an Eventide section...

With the new remote control software, I'm hoping to make the Harmonizer easier to use for looping too...  :D

Regards,
Doug

--0-1028946763-1296938013=:75769-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 20:39:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C71FA18347D; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jQhZF8CF9R0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=95f5hI-f3i8-8pXJv0cA:9 a=r7Bl-qm3W4rRt1M2eROemAKQ3WYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <9FB7218D-9856-4EE3-BFA6-B1D068565BF5@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:39:03 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Nice! I'm a big RH fan. On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok > computer this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but > this video take is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. > Seems like every time I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or > two I was supposed to hit at an important time or if I focus on > hitting the footswitches at the right moment then I f' up the music > making. I need another brain. A core 2 duo brain so I can multitask! > > > http://vimeo.com/19597693 > > > -Todd Matthews > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 20:58:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97C51183488; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aLHpcdXuNxb7qhDabt7JjBJdUDXuY2YNlD4YIC9Gkks=; b=vI1/CSYzhqCH/UA/h3YG0ERsE81vpnS+v3MeTq+IP03qLfvNFFAPwWLLYu1B0JK2Lx nnGI9Mb0E4g/Wv07S+AX2xrcbZR6A6kmkxpofbv6B7GR4m8+rkaiqfbftPK0wIGyuEaG /9H99xtCMXVYtDFxWnuwyqrO0YUuuF1Ye8cn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N/uUz1B/1jveO+G+30NKOaOket0bylxl4VHaDo8dczWW4cxdgvWI7lsYwDR27Q44vg 7e2LSRNV5QOiV+hqOEwpWOEdWveoYS9q+2p8bYVHAWE0/CWCe82piJ84pzMnEz5xFcqj uWksihqUnlKhyi7Tf4t1a5SNhrVFIiWpWxb/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:58:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: a Mobius based piece from this morning From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b43c02a968049b8f4326 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:58:35 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b43c02a968049b8f4326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm continuing to work with Mobius and made this piece this morning for ImprovFriday participation. For violin/clarinet/voice which I'm thinking is going to be my foundation for a= n RPM 2011 release this month maybe. Jim Goodin - Bird by Bird Fly (Again) Jim --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --001636c5b43c02a968049b8f4326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm continuing to work with Mobius and made this piece this morning for= ImprovFriday participation. = =A0For violin/clarinet/voice which I'm thinking is going to be my found= ation for an RPM 2011 release this month maybe.


Jim

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from the sale of this C= D will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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--001636c5b43c02a968049b8f4326-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 21:10:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA2D2183487; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: a Mobius based piece from this morning References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-805159830"; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: a Mobius based piece from this morning Thread-Index: AcvFeIA01bZGuiCWQYmTWdZnF70dkg== Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:05:39 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2011 21:10:53.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C754A30:01CBC579] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:10:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-805159830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L1ECG1HF+2mFbmKBCQpzFlF6xAi+4+XOLtpuUzElsVc=; b=k8DcNYrXGNj+mRap2oE76QS0KqH+8NQdYGACqx/5kpHNy/XHdjN9x71nJC/Dqk52Rh MOWVU0gqt2XE4aIdHyZvmGR6UM9UKYb0u7RXEfwIuV2e0ciq+42lrI1gFzSy5GgcozZG pYQsTBme7N3iMdrfyj3aECXKQOMDMOppq+oRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uJNYWCRGsZ2da4xFo4PAJ+hei0bTlEsvig7jCp54N40aJTjAVp65QuKnoRL58qnovc EfVrL8IQ6xJXKRb+QSuS5krhzthgWsntqwl0jj94nlljbRc/nydazJPxbYosbVdOAmEd GJexmWAvvalssQSSR5jSepCU/JyYR1+TAIdak= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9FB7218D-9856-4EE3-BFA6-B1D068565BF5@charter.net> References: <9FB7218D-9856-4EE3-BFA6-B1D068565BF5@charter.net> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:21:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Lasse juul Kolding To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534c927c25d43049b8f942d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) --00221534c927c25d43049b8f942d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really nice! Love double bass, and RH.... how do you have it mic'ed to get such a great sound? On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:39 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wro= te: > Nice! > > I'm a big RH fan. > > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > > I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok >> computer this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this >> video take is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems lik= e >> every time I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was suppose= d to >> hit at an important time or if I focus on hitting the footswitches at th= e >> right moment then I f' up the music making. I need another brain. A core= 2 >> duo brain so I can multitask! >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/19597693 >> >> >> -Todd Matthews >> >> >> >> >> > --00221534c927c25d43049b8f942d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really nice! Love double bass, and RH.... how do you have it mic'ed to = get such a great sound?

On Sat, Feb 5, 20= 11 at 9:39 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Nice!

I'm a big RH fan.


On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok comp= uter this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this video = take is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems like every t= ime I focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was supposed to hit a= t an important time or if I focus on hitting the footswitches at the right = moment then I f' up the music making. I need another brain. A core 2 du= o brain so I can multitask!


http://vimeo.com/19= 597693


-Todd Matthews






--00221534c927c25d43049b8f942d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 21:28:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52305183490; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JTdemYxL5W0jWRaSLNRcLXCbO+gaGfe4f33Zy6SD5Hw=; b=SADyr7dOn2BwpRhsRIG4OBv0+GrPaxVe5HoviyP/bboUbO30UhTZtVG6gqaOeFlZlx gQsctJGDmXlHdqVidyfuAOw1WWvNIR+JQNoDmft0BRiZoyMoQFQL0FzmHxP7EnYvq736 0PZDD1tlfrveeTzgLWAio1vJKoYaq7IYX+SjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kEB2wop+VB90npDv8Sa9HTLUikXSWu0dFekCw9UZNrbtGpgOuq+yrsJDCK2rra/0Im OBDuTaEoX7n7fHmaWXKnvPZZk6ACMpPmyLw+UHUChUzGUuSikZzjjYX/r3pMDGDI0FeD d18aQKd2rzTuZVyWouVahNxtXdKHA/rI1UIW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9FB7218D-9856-4EE3-BFA6-B1D068565BF5@charter.net> References: <9FB7218D-9856-4EE3-BFA6-B1D068565BF5@charter.net> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:28:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a2d6172881049b8faf2b Resent-Message-ID: <9oaCkD.A.jK.QEcTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:28:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a2d6172881049b8faf2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really enjoyed this, Todd. Your instrument sounds *very nice* Great time to listen to this soothing music for me... just spend an hour trying to get stand alone mode working on my SoftStep to no avail. You're running the pedal in stand alone, right? I'm on a mac using 10.5.8. Every time I hit the download button the program throws an exception. I posted it on the KMI forum. Keep up the good work! Adam --001636c5a2d6172881049b8faf2b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really enjoyed this, Todd. =A0Your instrument sou= nds *very nice* =A0Great time to listen to this soothing music for me... ju= st spend an hour trying to get stand alone mode working on my SoftStep to n= o avail. =A0You're running the pedal in stand alone, right? =A0

I'm on a mac using 10.5.8. =A0Every time I hit the downl= oad button the program throws an exception. =A0I posted it on the KMI forum= .

Keep up the good work!

<= div> Adam

--001636c5a2d6172881049b8faf2b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 21:35:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F2D9183492; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kc7IuD4rLKIuyZI3G6hGkIpu84/PwEDeeC+iBHCu6lc=; b=v/PwPmzsKBU4hVCbmHtGXXHCARXqHvuxboPqM7nRMoxSF4/xkNyMAyHWviCkM5LUMM JSkpV7qPl4jMDpjuN0zpLLWqsdqq8SrVpxGY2TGrZhLP7TOmoLV8z/QTtAFi/3C3/edE JvQfilZlFeEv3NuuUQuX9WcD910u9tlVgTdjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qvEzXDlWjEZGkYk+cAHCx7bXbwOwRBT1xaSuSk/op6LKuKU3of2kOwgn4B1W7193Re Kvz/03SczJGk50Qwg3Yotqwc9dWFpYqIP3YdYhp1qcsLXOk/FiK+2lcWOmV8xnq+rfRM jfl1GYbaaiKcZT7zvonc3CievMZCU5UXrNvEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:35:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a Mobius based piece from this morning From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Andy that's rich man thanks and yes I have strayed! Do you have a mandocello by chance speaking of 'million mandolins'? I almost got a cittern years ago and latter years kind of fulfilled by getting the oud. On 2/5/11, Andy Owens wrote: > Man you have got as far from Libba Cotton as you can get!!! > > Cool, needs about a million mandos tho!! > > Andy > > > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> I'm continuing to work with Mobius and made this piece this morning for >> ImprovFriday participation. For violin/clarinet/voice which I'm thinkin= g >> is going to be my foundation for an RPM 2011 release this month maybe. >> >> Jim Goodin - Bird by Bird Fly (Again) >> >> Jim >> >> -- >> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin= & >> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 22:11:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F8C3183492; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=SUl/M/hlCMBarEf+MRjIxFjujKLcEl+AxFT0mh9qn2g=; b=bR8FW8uAXXfVNrV4vLp14jMGzCeas3Wp0iZoICUUnkBzT0r/8V4fnwn024K9CnHj+n 0WcY35v/jbZYkkUlTFSp9az5n1i6yZqdw6cUlu8mSscShA6CCdeVTDV24XP45NI7rJI+ 8WqxR0XBPDXRSqjvzO91LVgS2PEBQrhOgzv14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Ikn4XxNsxRpqiq/X8LsqfpjATRg/Zov/a1/egdzrPGXbGrdU1jOsHPjwWoJ1E80Sa6 h1F32WoNUxjc7eyGui8EK004vBZm/ESQwrd1Z5MedKTDh1bt2cl+Ju/+HnJyyEtVG5ar YPED/+o00t/fkRFeyQKh6LFEb2stCqw0/NzHw= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-809126095 Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:11:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:11:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-809126095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Petri, Ted, Lasse, and Adam! Lasse, I was using an RE20 as a mic this time which isn't the best = solution for bowing but sounds amazing on bass for pizz.=20 Adam, your comment about using the SS for controlling pyrotechnics = cracked me up this morning. That sucks it's not working. I'm still = troubleshooting my mobius issues in my setup. I'm on Snow leopard so = maybe this could be an issue with leopard? Have you tried only loading = the init scene in one of the four slots to make things as simple as = possible to start. Got the latest firmware, VJ26? What's the exception? = Is it like an error message? When I download my scenes to the SS it = happens almost immediately.=20 -Todd Matthews >=20 > http://vimeo.com/19597693 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-809126095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii




= --Apple-Mail-1-809126095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 23:24:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62479183494; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-111-813487870 Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:24:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <8167084E-CB36-44CE-915A-B29F945146D8@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:24:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-111-813487870 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:53 PM, William Walker wrote: > Showalter sez "The Philospher's Tone from Pigtronix." >=20 > This is my new best friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal = the keeley is but quiter like the carl martin ( I currently own all = three) and cheaper than both, tiny so you can leave it on and tuck it = somwhere un-obtrusive. the grit control is a bit fizzy for me but works = well as a spice when using another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with = the sustain maxed. Runs from 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes = with a power supply. >=20 > If money was no object this is really getting me all hot and bothered = at the moment: http://www.pigtronix.com/products08/philosopherking.html > which combines their compressor and a fully functioning ADSR with = expression pedal ports for swell and fade variation, has anyone = discussed this before?=20 > I was wondering when someone would create a pedal like this, but then = I probably haven't been paying really close attention. > Bill I just got a Philosopher's Tone. I'm still figuring out how to set it so = that it's useful but doesn't destroy dynamics. But my brief playing with = it left me reasonably happy. (Not as happy as the MXR Stereo Tremolo has = made me recently.) So count this as a tentative additional endorsement. One weird thing: The jacks on it do not get along with the plugs from = the Planet Waves Cable Station kit. I've been able to get other cables = to work, but I'm going to have to figure out a real solution when it = finds a spot on my pedal board. Mark --Apple-Mail-111-813487870 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Showalter sez "The Philospher's = Tone from Pigtronix."

 This is my new best = friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal the keeley is but quiter = like the carl martin ( I currently own all three) and cheaper than both, = tiny so you can leave it on  and tuck it somwhere un-obtrusive. the = grit control is a bit fizzy for me but works well as a spice when using = another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from = 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes with a power = supply.

 If money was no object this is = really getting me all hot and bothered at the moment: http://w= ww.pigtronix.com/products08/philosopherking.html
 which= combines their compressor and a fully functioning ADSR with expression = pedal ports for swell and fade variation, has anyone discussed this = before? 
 I was wondering when someone would create = a pedal like this, but then I probably haven't been paying really close = attention.
 Bill

I = just got a Philosopher's Tone. I'm still figuring out how to set it so = that it's useful but doesn't destroy dynamics. But my brief playing with = it left me reasonably happy. (Not as happy as the MXR Stereo Tremolo has = made me recently.) So count this as a tentative additional = endorsement.

One weird thing: The jacks on it = do not get along with the plugs from the Planet Waves Cable Station kit. = I've been able to get other cables to work, but I'm going to have to = figure out a real solution when it finds a spot on my pedal = board.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-111-813487870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 5 23:50:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCC3D183495; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: a Mobius based piece from this morning References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <640C9898-C3A5-45E5-8DEA-2C087BAED839@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: a Mobius based piece from this morning Thread-Index: AcvFjm3XXzdPrulwTymOWtVoTkdI9g== Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:42:36 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2011 23:50:35.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BB66FA0:01CBC58F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:50:38 +0000 (UTC) T2ggeWVhaCBJIGdvdCBhIGtpbGxlciAxOTI0IGdpYnNvbiBLNCBhbmQgYSBuZXcgV2ViZXIsIG5p Y2UuIEFuZCBhIGtpbGxlciBkb2xhIGFuZCBtYW5kbyBiYXNzLCBzZW5kIG1lIGEgdHJhY2sgSSds bCBwdXQgYSBtYW5kbyBzZWN0aW9uIG9uIGl0ISENCg0KQW5keQ0KDQoNCg0KT24gRmViIDUsIDIw MTEsIGF0IDQ6MzUgUE0sIEppbSBHb29kaW4gPGppbWdvb2Rpbm11c2ljQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3Jv dGU6DQoNCj4gQW5keSB0aGF0J3MgcmljaCBtYW4gdGhhbmtzIGFuZCB5ZXMgSSBoYXZlIHN0cmF5 ZWQhICBEbyB5b3UgaGF2ZSBhDQo+IG1hbmRvY2VsbG8gYnkgY2hhbmNlIHNwZWFraW5nIG9mICdt aWxsaW9uIG1hbmRvbGlucyc/IEkgYWxtb3N0IGdvdCBhDQo+IGNpdHRlcm4geWVhcnMgYWdvIGFu ZCBsYXR0ZXIgeWVhcnMga2luZCBvZiBmdWxmaWxsZWQgYnkgZ2V0dGluZyB0aGUNCj4gb3VkLg0K PiANCj4gT24gMi81LzExLCBBbmR5IE93ZW5zIDxhbmR5QDE4MDBkaWFsd29yZC5jb20+IHdyb3Rl Og0KPj4gTWFuIHlvdSBoYXZlIGdvdCBhcyBmYXIgZnJvbSBMaWJiYSBDb3R0b24gYXMgeW91IGNh biBnZXQhISENCj4+IA0KPj4gQ29vbCwgbmVlZHMgYWJvdXQgYSBtaWxsaW9uIG1hbmRvcyB0aG8h IQ0KPj4gDQo+PiBBbmR5DQo+PiANCj4+IA0KPj4gDQo+PiBPbiBGZWIgNSwgMjAxMSwgYXQgMzo1 OCBQTSwgSmltIEdvb2RpbiA8amltZ29vZGlubXVzaWNAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCj4+IA0K Pj4+IEknbSBjb250aW51aW5nIHRvIHdvcmsgd2l0aCBNb2JpdXMgYW5kIG1hZGUgdGhpcyBwaWVj ZSB0aGlzIG1vcm5pbmcgZm9yDQo+Pj4gSW1wcm92RnJpZGF5IHBhcnRpY2lwYXRpb24uICBGb3Ig dmlvbGluL2NsYXJpbmV0L3ZvaWNlIHdoaWNoIEknbSB0aGlua2luZw0KPj4+IGlzIGdvaW5nIHRv IGJlIG15IGZvdW5kYXRpb24gZm9yIGFuIFJQTSAyMDExIHJlbGVhc2UgdGhpcyBtb250aCBtYXli ZS4NCj4+PiANCj4+PiBKaW0gR29vZGluIC0gQmlyZCBieSBCaXJkIEZseSAoQWdhaW4pDQo+Pj4g DQo+Pj4gSmltDQo+Pj4gDQo+Pj4gLS0NCj4+PiBGcm9tIEJyb29rbHluIFRvIEdsaW5kcmFuLCBh IG5ldyBXb3JsZC9GcmVlIEphenogcmVjb3JkaW5nIGJ5IEppbSBHb29kaW4gJg0KPj4+IFBldGVy IFRow7Zybi4gIFByb2NlZWRzDQo+Pj4gZnJvbSB0aGUgc2FsZSBvZiB0aGlzIENEIHdpbGwgYmVu ZWZpdCBKRFJGIEludGVybmF0aW9uYWwuDQo+Pj4gamltZ29vZGlucGV0ZXJ0aG9ybi5iYW5kY2Ft cC5jb20uDQo+Pj4gDQo+Pj4gd29vZGFuZHdpcmVtdXNpYy53b3JkcHJlc3MuY29tDQo+PiANCj4g DQo+IC0tIA0KPiBTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgbW9iaWxlIGRldmljZQ0KPiANCj4gKkZyb20gQnJvb2ts eW4gVG8gR2xpbmRyYW4qLCBhIG5ldyBXb3JsZC9GcmVlIEphenogcmVjb3JkaW5nIGJ5IEppbSBH b29kaW4gJg0KPiBQZXRlciBUaMO2cm4uICBQcm9jZWVkcw0KPiBmcm9tIHRoZSBzYWxlIG9mIHRo aXMgQ0Qgd2lsbCBiZW5lZml0IEpEUkYgSW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC4NCj4gamltZ29vZGlucGV0ZXJ0 aG9ybi5iYW5kY2FtcC5jb20uDQo+IA0KPiB3b29kYW5kd2lyZW11c2ljLndvcmRwcmVzcy5jb20N Cj4gDQo= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 00:44:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39174183497; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 00:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KSCWBkzn1Z2arm6oo2dRkPinbM8l9bXJG3pTrsqlSIQ=; b=WSDQ5NGYUDXHZeS+YLsHnjo+ohihE52GaxoUI2Oklk1TD7Xxg6v6nKVNleq+iPY+9U I6/uTHv9b8V0xJb5DhLP/eqPrEZ7B9lMs40bShiDiBfd74uQoxFiv+3imvfvHUF3M4qp 56TXqNemDgoyURvXciS2n+nJo0jrYEtV+0+KM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NIOJBusxzn3N/xdaRb5u5bR1EYuRxWz1iuX+WncUk6t2iC3WKt1WzSZv7YcRHMyC3e 4wOuJC8QURzkFGzEIdnvQ2F6WsdCl7RD1cJaiipppXiaT1cgkxc6FpAtH6b5PK+BH/qq sla8ss9x2LGGYPRLpqhl2IpwGf/Cz0ZohWs6A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <501172.75769.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> <501172.75769.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NOrd From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8f6eb4347a049b92686b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 00:44:12 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8f6eb4347a049b92686b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Glad to help! Yeah, it kills me, Eventide makes such great hardware, but it seems their management is completely focused on the data loggers. Nick is a good guy though. I keep wondering if I should start my own unmoderated Eventide users forum - I'm hoping to go live with patchlibrary.net sometime this year and really start trying to build a synth programmer's community. That will definitely have an Eventide section... - i owned a dsp7k many years ago and all we had was the yahoo mailing list. italo was the go-to guy and he was always incredibly helpful. dunno what happened but now i can barely get a response from anybody. i've even called their tech support before only to be told "nobody here today can help you. call back tomorrow." wow...seriously? i've had "help tickets" made for issues only to have them apparently slip through the cracks. the gear is amazing, the support blows. With the new remote control software, I'm hoping to make the Harmonizer easier to use for looping too... :D - huh? remote software for eventide? tell me more. - jim --90e6ba6e8f6eb4347a049b92686b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Glad to help!=A0 Yeah, it kills me, Eventide make= s such great hardware, but it seems their management is completely focused = on the data loggers.=A0 Nick is a good guy though.=A0 I keep wondering if I= should start my own unmoderated Eventide users forum - I'm hoping to g= o live with patchlibr= ary.net sometime this year and really start trying to build a synth pro= grammer's community.=A0 That will definitely have an Eventide section..= .

- i owned a dsp7k many years ago and all we had was the yahoo mailing l= ist.=A0 italo was the go-to guy and he was always incredibly helpful.=A0 du= nno what happened but now i can barely get a response from anybody.=A0 i= 9;ve even called their tech support before only to be told "nobody her= e today can help you.=A0 call back tomorrow."=A0 wow...seriously?=A0 i= 've had "help tickets" made for issues only to have them appa= rently slip through the cracks.=A0 the gear is amazing, the support blows.<= br>
With the new remote control software, I'm hoping to make the Harmon= izer easier to use for looping too...=A0 :D

- huh?=A0 remote softwar= e for eventide?=A0 tell me more.

- jim
--90e6ba6e8f6eb4347a049b92686b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 01:15:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3F3B18348F; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 01:15:51 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_52d5cbf5-217d-4a07-96c6-803f50b36184_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: OCTATRACK has arrived, first recording/experiment Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:07:50 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2011 01:07:50.0384 (UTC) FILETIME=[46370F00:01CBC59A] Resent-Message-ID: <2w3Ol.A.sVC.JZfTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:15:53 +0000 (UTC) --_52d5cbf5-217d-4a07-96c6-803f50b36184_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's fun its not a looper yet=2C.. i tried ti use it as a looper (sort of) = anyway... here's a clip=20 http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-playing-live-no Here it is used as a sort of live looping device=2C center is only guitar (= not through octa) panned more left and right is the octatrack stuff. I used= four recorders and a few more track for playback. So one recorder was play= ed up on more than one track. On the flexmachine tracks i have played with = sample and amp parameters and also the sequencer. I use trig recording bu m= anually press a button to record when i feel for it. I don't adjust anythig= while playing just sampling at occasion.. The pre set flex track adds octa= ves and rhytmic effects. Perhaps not very musical=2C yet=2C but it's a good creative instrument=2C v= ery easy to manipulate samples on the fly and do cool rhytmic stuff.=20 =20 = --_52d5cbf5-217d-4a07-96c6-803f50b36184_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's fun its not a looper yet=2C.. i tried ti use it as a looper (sort of) = anyway...
here's a clip
http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/octatrack-playing-live-no
Here it is used as a sort of live looping device=2C center is only guitar (= not through octa) panned more left and right is the octatrack stuff. I used= four recorders and a few more track for playback. So one recorder was play= ed up on more than one track. On the flexmachine tracks i have played with = sample and amp parameters and also the sequencer. I use trig recording bu m= anually press a button to record when i feel for it. I don't adjust anythig= while playing just sampling at occasion.. The pre set flex track adds octa= ves and rhytmic effects.
Perhaps not very musical=2C yet=2C but it's&nbs= p=3Ba good creative instrument=2C very easy to manipulate samples on the fl= y and do cool rhytmic stuff.
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= --_52d5cbf5-217d-4a07-96c6-803f50b36184_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 01:31:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E7D0183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <8167084E-CB36-44CE-915A-B29F945146D8@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:30:58 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <76D9AEC9-F9AF-4B3C-A635-300F90BA1550@grubmah.com> References: <8167084E-CB36-44CE-915A-B29F945146D8@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 01:31:01 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I just got a Philosopher's Tone. I'm still figuring out how to set it = so that it's useful but doesn't destroy dynamics. But my brief playing = with it left me reasonably happy. (Not as happy as the MXR Stereo = Tremolo has made me recently.) So count this as a tentative additional = endorsement. Turn it down and I'm still feeling a bit like I'm dealing with the = compressor making the sound more disconnected -- I wouldn't expect a = compressor to introduce latency -- but it also does very nice things to = provide a little more body to my guitars and the Philosopher's Tone into = the Swollen Pickle is a lovely combination. > One weird thing: The jacks on it do not get along with the plugs from = the Planet Waves Cable Station kit. I've been able to get other cables = to work, but I'm going to have to figure out a real solution when it = finds a spot on my pedal board. It definitely doesn't like thicker plugs. The Monster guitar cable I = play with is known to be a bit of a tight fit for some jacks. It won't = even come close to working with the jacks on the Philosopher's Tone. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 02:09:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ED6B183466; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kUmFNBuCVxx+XNtRl1vUKR8ES523BR8nxWrSvJY8W+I=; b=qJ93AHEJA26qWzBe2UExeEJHuBQKZ5ajIQVPEFoY2M/+5CBRlRhZ3ahXqY0ni18cO5 21mIVp+T77Xb8uN6T9OHn2ZUcEyrv6vasV5Xj/IUQmMhTubr1Sen0o/zxciHsSMR3+l6 5xn7kqJt41LQ7DlzrX2ErdvvHQicDcdIzZGp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HbQYk5MsC7PPGrLFGb/A7edqK+pQIFp5wXlVkPc+1aSzWrOVP8SzlDeLup55vD4VID f1PqeUeaOYgZFYt2h/xVLILcX+S5K8JMrs3VSLpFbIAZ7NGmF6vAcV7G+z2rbyg+c5V4 Ascr9pkOIYej+wY9tZ8w8ZRRft7ZJ+Ws999UY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Re - a Mobius based piece from this morning From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Andy those sound great particularly the mando bass. I will send you a piece to add to., that would be cool Andy. On 2/5/11, Andy Owens wrote: > Oh yeah I got a killer 1924 gibson K4 and a new Weber, nice. And a killer > dola and mando bass, send me a track I'll put a mando section on it!! > > Andy > > > > On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Andy that's rich man thanks and yes I have strayed! Do you have a >> mandocello by chance speaking of 'million mandolins'? I almost got a >> cittern years ago and latter years kind of fulfilled by getting the >> oud. >> >> On 2/5/11, Andy Owens wrote: >>> Man you have got as far from Libba Cotton as you can get!!! >>> >>> Cool, needs about a million mandos tho!! >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : >>> >>>> I'm continuing to work with Mobius and made this piece this morning fo= r >>>> ImprovFriday participation. For violin/clarinet/voice which I'm >>>> thinking >>>> is going to be my foundation for an RPM 2011 release this month maybe. >>>> >>>> Jim Goodin - Bird by Bird Fly (Again) >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> -- >>>> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in >>>> & >>>> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >>>> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >>>> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >>>> >>>> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Good= in >> & >> Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds >> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. >> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. >> >> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com >> > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 02:13:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4531D183466; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 456613.45172.bm@omp1049.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296958399; bh=P/wOIhaHT45wjcwYXBLELXPJUVABBnnXOsqBbTKqfe4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Lk98XhLmQxGim8jCe+BzpvuL/KPR9BPjnJ2OwSysgZrK4VGthQedKLV7xYd6Da6zm8x3YePSYLDOPMvMw86CGkLxX5xDW2JAQ3MusRmkNy4zaQAoBgUt4SexGPZD9PsQUuWyy3sNpDDOku3stRD07fmP8Rx9mQSMg0j+HZKSvXA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WCkOYIql6iTltQo9rUY/aiscSb74m3bKwSaKM2RPiHHly0N1vzZPGJxx3bE6Gomm/WReB0fsS+8eOGDAiclBnTafujDUYnutL0Po/BYfp+4laL8xlin0QxQhOIWQwd4K5QdV4S8QEWTlGna0Ado72bpSqXRDu+U15nKkuLwo4lY=; Message-ID: <223867.80579.qm@web59710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UrRJ_C8VM1kqyncKuGllDt9CCNHCHkJDje8jppfkOcZ6KhV 8.NHLWWuILxt2IDaworC.nxrtac2XMpbPxRLK3k9dwdmwGefPaCPp1XlSHTV 1azuLi1k22yCDdAYyzhk.0lQ9YPMY_9MEMLN5QQKpwADHHdysFdyeXCvh8q3 FHci9bR9zZ137NPGtdgpBocjD84f1xAUMR_zzLBD1mHunb6pTRLXuy7jMSG0 GqVVDTw0mnqYCqurAfSDbcb6ep03wATR2jknFUiJODeSMTUXG5Q8DLBUdQFL jCo_7XT553yGno3vyQ.DQHgI.tA47P_ZjPQ0PMH5morW0UbBxFQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> <501172.75769.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 18:13:19 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Eventide. Was: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-220543464-1296958399=:80579" Resent-Message-ID: <9w3M0C.A.KnE._OgTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 02:13:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-220543464-1296958399=:80579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >i owned a dsp7k many years ago and all we had was the yahoo mailing list. italo >was the go-to guy and he was always incredibly helpful. dunno what happened but >now i can barely get a response from anybody. Yeah, Italo is great. :) I still have contact with him occasionally. He has been posting on Gearslutz since I outed that he didn't work for Eventide any more: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/search.php?do=finduser&u=154461 Meanwhile, I think the Harmonizer(tm) team has shrunk quite a bit (Nick may be the only one left), so I'm not surprised that response is slow. I think the new Factor pedals are good, if only for the idea that they are more easily understood by users and more easily supported by Eventide staff. For me though, well, the Harmonizer has no equal and I'd love to see them take "The Next Step(tm)"... >huh? remote software for eventide? tell me more. A while back, I took over maintenance of vSigX, the OS X algorithm editor for the Harmonizer. Of course, then life hit and the last two years has been...interesting. I won't bore everyone publicly with the details. Anyway, several things inspired me to change directions, and I got back to work on my remote control software. The first version is a standalone program that basically just lets you push buttons and get screen dumps from the Harmonizer. I have plans to include a macro language, so that you can do things like send or retrieve all patches, reorder and rename things, etc. After fielding several questions about routing and clocking, I realized that I wanted to expand my program so that it can understand how the entire unit is set up. That is, for example, on an H8000FW, if you have the routing set up for only the first two inputs, but your effects patch is designed for four inputs, you're going to end up with something other than what you originally expected. So, the plan is to finish up a program that can perform remote control button presses, then include routing, and after that, include algorithm editing from the existing vSigX. I'm also planning to include Eclipse patch editing as well. (It's nothing like Harmonizer algorithm editing though.) I was hoping to get more work done on the Harmonizer software before I ship the MB-808 kits, but it looks like the parts are finally on the way, so I'm going to put off programming a bit to get the kits all bundled up and finally out of my house! Regards, Doug --0-220543464-1296958399=:80579 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>i owned a dsp7k many years ago and all we had was the yahoo mailing list.  italo was the go-to guy and he was always incredibly helpful.  dunno what happened but now i can barely get a response from anybody.

Yeah, Italo is great.  :)  I still have contact with him occasionally.  He has been posting on Gearslutz since I outed that he didn't work for Eventide any more:  http://www.gearslutz.com/board/search.php?do=finduser&u=154461

Meanwhile, I think the Harmonizer(tm) team has shrunk quite a bit (Nick may be the only one left), so I'm not surprised that response is slow.  I think the new Factor pedals are good, if only for the idea that they are more easily understood by users and more easily supported by Eventide staff.  For me though, well, the Harmonizer has no equal and I'd love to see them take "The Next Step(tm)"...

>huh?  remote software for eventide?  tell me more.

A while back, I took over maintenance of vSigX, the OS X algorithm editor for the Harmonizer.  Of course, then life hit and the last two years has been...interesting.  I won't bore everyone publicly with the details.  Anyway, several things inspired me to change directions, and I got back to work on my remote control software.  The first version is a standalone program that basically just lets you push buttons and get screen dumps from the Harmonizer.  I have plans to include a macro language, so that you can do things like send or retrieve all patches, reorder and rename things, etc.  After fielding several questions about routing and clocking, I realized that I wanted to expand my program so that it can understand how the entire unit is set up.  That is, for example, on an H8000FW, if you have the routing set up for only the first two inputs, but your effects patch is designed for four inputs, you're going to end up with something other than what you originally expected.  So, the plan is to finish up a program that can perform remote control button presses, then include routing, and after that, include algorithm editing from the existing vSigX.  I'm also planning to include Eclipse patch editing as well.  (It's nothing like Harmonizer algorithm editing though.)

I was hoping to get more work done on the Harmonizer software before I ship the MB-808 kits, but it looks like the parts are finally on the way, so I'm going to put off programming a bit to get the kits all bundled up and finally out of my house!

Regards,
Doug

--0-220543464-1296958399=:80579-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 05:06:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C608183475; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110206021321.155DF18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-833979313 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:05:59 -0800 References: <20110206021321.155DF18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:06:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-833979313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This is my new best friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal > the keeley is but quieter like the carl martin ( I currently own all > three) and cheaper than both, tiny so you can leave it on and tuck > it somewhere unobtrusive. the grit control is a bit fizzy for me but > works well as a spice when using another overdrive pedal, or when > maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from 9-18 volts, but not on > batteries, comes with a power supply. Well, I have to eat my words a bit on this one, Though I really like its sound and small size. my PT is currently on its way back to the factory, due to an intermittent power issue. And upon further inspection it is built pretty cheaply, . critical links like the power supply and input jacks use little plastic snap couplers instead of soldered connections to its tiny pc board, which is disappointing. So the verdict is still out for me on this one. The desert island compressor for me (if the desert island had an endless supply of batteries or a solar energy source) is still the Keeley. built like a tank with great components and can run on a 9 volt battery. Now that i've adjusted its internal sensitivity properly its also running very quietly. Mark it sounds to me like you need to back off the blend and the sustain a bit . Just like the Keeley , the Dyna Comp, and a number of other floor compressors, if you over do the sustain (sensitivity) , you will kill your dynamics which is what I think you mean by latency. the best compression is not an obvious thing, as far as i'm concerned. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-833979313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 This is my new best friend, this = compressor is every bit the pedal the keeley is but quieter like the = carl martin ( I currently own all three) and cheaper than both, tiny so = you can leave it on  and tuck it somewhere unobtrusive. the grit = control is a bit fizzy for me but works well as a spice when using = another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from = 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes with a power = supply.


Well, I =  have to eat my words a bit on this one, Though I really like its = sound and small size. my PT is currently on its way back to the =  factory, due to an intermittent power issue. And upon further = inspection it is built pretty cheaply, .  critical links like the = power supply and input jacks use little plastic snap couplers instead of = soldered connections to its tiny pc board, which is disappointing. =  So the verdict is still out for me on this one. The desert island = compressor for me (if the desert island had an endless supply of = batteries or a solar energy source) is still the Keeley. built like a = tank with great components and can run on a 9 volt battery. Now that = i've adjusted its internal sensitivity properly its also running very = quietly.   Mark it sounds to me like you need to back off the blend = and the sustain a bit . Just like the Keeley , the Dyna Comp, and a = number of other floor compressors, if you over do the sustain = (sensitivity) , you will kill  your dynamics which is what I think = you mean by latency. the best compression is not an obvious thing, as = far as i'm concerned.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-833979313-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 06:17:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7408183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEGAG7LTU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACCRZRQjiC6RYVaBIR6ihs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,433,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="100725794" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <0EC3D9C1-8824-4625-89D4-41677CCE07C9@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <223867.80579.qm@web59710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16-838462982 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 00:20:42 -0600 References: <00cc01cbc46b$4f9cc510$0d7ba85e@eced5194571a442> <69AA1D1E-0A39-402A-A1B3-CAC8813BB2F5@1800dialword.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AF9CF7@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <832580.59865.qm@web59716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4D4C80A1.2030200@googlemail.com> <4153AD07-B8C5-4C2E-BFFC-B6DA3A6713B7@1800dialword.com> <501172.75769.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <223867.80579.qm@web59710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:17:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16-838462982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > For me though, well, the Harmonizer has no equal and I'd love to see them take "The Next Step(tm)"... Not even the Axe-Fx Ultra? I was afraid that could be an Eventide killer. > > >huh? remote software for eventide? tell me more. > > So, the plan is to finish up a program that can perform remote > control button presses, then include routing, and after that, > include algorithm editing from the existing vSigX. I'm also > planning to include Eclipse patch editing as well. (It's nothing > like Harmonizer algorithm editing though.) Fantastic. Do you happen to have an email list I could get on to keep abreast of any developments? And--I (almost) hesitate to ask--any idea of a timetable for availability?;) Would it be possible to have your program assemble virtual racks of the user's own making? I guess the program would have to know how to insert the appropriate algorithms and make all the right vSigX connections. I've always thought it'd be so cool to be able to make the individual racks more customizable. Thanks, Jeff --Apple-Mail-16-838462982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>  For me though, well, the = Harmonizer has no equal and I'd love to see them take "The Next = Step(tm)"...

Not even the = Axe-Fx Ultra? I was afraid that could be an Eventide = killer.


>huh?  remote = software for eventide?  tell me more.

So, the plan is to = finish up a program that can perform remote control button presses, then = include routing, and after that, include algorithm editing from the = existing vSigX.  I'm also planning to include Eclipse patch editing = as well.  (It's nothing like Harmonizer algorithm editing = though.)

Fantastic. Do you happen to have an email list I = could get on to keep abreast of any developments? And--I (almost) = hesitate to ask--any idea of a timetable for = availability?;)

Would it be possible to have = your program assemble virtual racks of the user's own making? I guess = the program would have to know how to insert the appropriate algorithms = and make all the right vSigX connections. I've always thought it'd be so = cool to be able to make the individual racks more = customizable.

Thanks,

Je= ff
= --Apple-Mail-16-838462982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 06:18:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3155183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:18:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8115EF3F-BAC8-4430-A38A-2CFB10C22D50@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-838337647 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:18:37 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:18:37 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:18:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14-838337647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 16th century muisic theorist Ganassi writes: The bass is the best voice because it contains all the others. You exemplify that. On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Thanks Petri, Ted, Lasse, and Adam! > > Lasse, I was using an RE20 as a mic this time which isn't the best > solution for bowing but sounds amazing on bass for pizz. > > Adam, your comment about using the SS for controlling pyrotechnics > cracked me up this morning. That sucks it's not working. I'm still > troubleshooting my mobius issues in my setup. I'm on Snow leopard so > maybe this could be an issue with leopard? Have you tried only > loading the init scene in one of the four slots to make things as > simple as possible to start. Got the latest firmware, VJ26? What's > the exception? Is it like an error message? When I download my > scenes to the SS it happens almost immediately. > > -Todd Matthews > >> >> http://vimeo.com/19597693 >> >> > > > > > Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-14-838337647 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 16th century muisic = theorist Ganassi writes: The bass is the best voice because it contains = all the others. You exemplify that. 

On Feb 6, = 2011, at 7:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

Thanks Petri, Ted, Lasse, and = Adam!

Lasse, I was using an RE20 as a mic this time = which isn't the best solution for bowing but sounds amazing on bass for = pizz. 

Adam, your comment about using the = SS for controlling pyrotechnics cracked me up this morning. That sucks = it's not working. I'm still troubleshooting my mobius issues in my = setup. I'm on Snow leopard so maybe this could be an issue with leopard? = Have you tried only loading the init scene in one of the four slots to = make things as simple as possible to start. Got the latest firmware, = VJ26? What's the exception? Is it like an error message?  When I = download my scenes to the SS it happens almost = immediately. 



=

= --Apple-Mail-14-838337647-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 06:33:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64216183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15-839239382 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:33:39 +0900 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:33:39 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:33:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15-839239382 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to decide on which to buy: SoftStep or Behringer 1010. I plan on buying a MacBook Pro and run Mobius, Logic and Digital Performer on it. I'm hoping to create a very portable system, something I can carry on the train with a guitar and lute. Of course the SS is appealing because of the size and capabilities. The 1010 could be strapped to the guitar if need be, but smaller is better, I think, for portability. I just got the Korg Nano Kontrol, Pad & Key. These are obviously small enough. My dilemma, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is I am patience- challenged and it is getting worse with age. I am struggling to learn Logic now, but it is not too terrible because it is, well, logical (and I have 25 years experience using Performer). I got pretty frustrated with the Boss RC-2, so that will give you an idea of my threshold. My question: Is the SoftStep ready for prime-time? There are so many appealing things about it, I want it to be a winner. However, from some of the reviews I've read and what Adam said, I'm afraid it might be a recipe for frustration for me. I'm just a beginner with looping. TIA On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Adam, your comment about using the SS for controlling pyrotechnics > cracked me up this morning. That sucks it's not working. I'm still > troubleshooting my mobius issues in my setup. I'm on Snow leopard so > maybe this could be an issue with leopard? Have you tried only > loading the init scene in one of the four slots to make things as > simple as possible to start. Got the latest firmware, VJ26? What's > the exception? Is it like an error message? When I download my > scenes to the SS it happens almost immediately. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-15-839239382 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to decide on which = to buy: SoftStep or Behringer 1010. I plan on buying a MacBook Pro and = run Mobius, Logic and Digital Performer on it. I'm hoping to create a = very portable system, something I can carry on the train with a guitar = and lute. Of course the SS is appealing because of the size and = capabilities. The 1010 could be strapped to the guitar if need be, but = smaller is better, I think, for portability. I just got the Korg Nano = Kontrol, Pad & Key. These are obviously small = enough.

My dilemma, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is = I am patience-challenged and it is getting worse with age. I am = struggling to learn Logic now, but it is not too terrible because it is, = well, logical (and I have 25 years experience using Performer). I got = pretty frustrated with the Boss RC-2, so that will give you an idea of = my threshold. My question: Is the SoftStep ready for prime-time? = There are so many appealing things about it, I want it to be a winner. = However, from some of the reviews I've read and what Adam said, I'm = afraid it might be a recipe for frustration for me. I'm just a beginner = with looping.
TIA

On Feb 6, 2011, at = 7:11 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

Adam, your = comment about using the SS for controlling pyrotechnics cracked me up = this morning. That sucks it's not working. I'm still troubleshooting my = mobius issues in my setup. I'm on Snow leopard so maybe this could be an = issue with leopard? Have you tried only loading the init scene in one of = the four slots to make things as simple as possible to start. Got the = latest firmware, VJ26? What's the exception? Is it like an error = message?  When I download my scenes to the SS it happens almost = immediately. 

= --Apple-Mail-15-839239382-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 07:00:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870BC183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-263-840847365 Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:00:27 -0800 In-Reply-To: <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110206021321.155DF18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <4E24FB1F-85D1-41FB-8EA6-0E8BAEE260F4@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:00:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-263-840847365 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:05 PM, William Walker wrote: >=20 >> This is my new best friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal = the keeley is but quieter like the carl martin ( I currently own all = three) and cheaper than both, tiny so you can leave it on and tuck it = somewhere unobtrusive. the grit control is a bit fizzy for me but works = well as a spice when using another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with = the sustain maxed. Runs from 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes = with a power supply. >=20 >=20 > Well, I have to eat my words a bit on this one, Though I really like = its sound and small size. my PT is currently on its way back to the = factory, due to an intermittent power issue. And upon further inspection = it is built pretty cheaply, . critical links like the power supply and = input jacks use little plastic snap couplers instead of soldered = connections to its tiny pc board, which is disappointing. So the = verdict is still out for me on this one. The desert island compressor = for me (if the desert island had an endless supply of batteries or a = solar energy source) is still the Keeley. built like a tank with great = components and can run on a 9 volt battery. Now that i've adjusted its = internal sensitivity properly its also running very quietly. Mark it = sounds to me like you need to back off the blend and the sustain a bit . = Just like the Keeley , the Dyna Comp, and a number of other floor = compressors, if you over do the sustain (sensitivity) , you will kill = your dynamics which is what I think you mean by latency. the best = compression is not an obvious thing, as far as i'm concerned. Yeah, backed off appropriately, it just seems to add a nice punch to the = sound. The jury is still out on the grit which is pretty fizzy and seems = to add a fair amount of noise (though it cleans right up when I mute my = strings). It also seems to do much better first in my chain which makes = the issues with not liking the girth of the Monster plug a more annoying = issue since it's going to force me to change cables or throw in an = adapter. But I'm coming to like adding a touch of compression enough = that I'm probably going to feel motivated to resolve that issue. Disappointed to hear that the build quality is low since reviews had = tended to be fairly positive about Pigtronix. Mark --Apple-Mail-263-840847365 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 This is my new best friend, this = compressor is every bit the pedal the keeley is but quieter like the = carl martin ( I currently own all three) and cheaper than both, tiny so = you can leave it on  and tuck it somewhere unobtrusive. the grit = control is a bit fizzy for me but works well as a spice when using = another overdrive pedal, or when maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from = 9-18 volts, but not on batteries, comes with a power = supply.


Well, I =  have to eat my words a bit on this one, Though I really like its = sound and small size. my PT is currently on its way back to the =  factory, due to an intermittent power issue. And upon further = inspection it is built pretty cheaply, .  critical links like the = power supply and input jacks use little plastic snap couplers instead of = soldered connections to its tiny pc board, which is disappointing. =  So the verdict is still out for me on this one. The desert island = compressor for me (if the desert island had an endless supply of = batteries or a solar energy source) is still the Keeley. built like a = tank with great components and can run on a 9 volt battery. Now that = i've adjusted its internal sensitivity properly its also running very = quietly.   Mark it sounds to me like you need to back off the blend = and the sustain a bit . Just like the Keeley , the Dyna Comp, and a = number of other floor compressors, if you over do the sustain = (sensitivity) , you will kill  your dynamics which is what I think = you mean by latency. the best compression is not an obvious thing, as = far as i'm concerned.

Yeah, = backed off appropriately, it just seems to add a nice punch to the = sound. The jury is still out on the grit which is pretty fizzy and seems = to add a fair amount of noise (though it cleans right up when I mute my = strings). It also seems to do much better first in my chain which = makes the issues with not liking the girth of the Monster plug a more = annoying issue since it's going to force me to change cables or throw in = an adapter. But I'm coming to like adding a touch of compression enough = that I'm probably going to feel motivated to resolve that = issue.

Disappointed to hear that the build = quality is low since reviews had tended to be fairly positive about = Pigtronix.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-263-840847365-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 08:51:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AF43183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xBJRRDehvCmgjKIknvvFryDOrtYTs0fOMx1Mk3s/jh4=; b=M+wGOrY4q5/AD0Ag0lcbZFBFRSDQIkIg6lj7tLVCH7WtEOpp5hfqhR/lWj83DWZNFp OCYt+hLnQ4QxNEByhXG+9zoEjw2MlaUsGTAAwpax9sngDUwwQ3LTaFcvEFhUdk5o2qeg uKOjIGY7WRwRt1EsDCy3/Kep9vj466g4+5frE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CG+tkg9qIy1XbGqgTcB6tebRxgZOFw6BzvBB/t/UlMvgYo1NIXfvQsvV9gX/AeCnXu /MoC2ayOymjYB0vXA0F3145in5KSpEcQlc4eAWjrjleTwAIn20CiKt1zFmlpaKJ0CU3K zmq9aju6EKBBJfCw0L43IPrIyMJZxZlLigvyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:51:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ed, Before deciding on what foot MIDI controller board to go with, be sure to also check out the GORDIUS Little Giant 2! I personally switched to the LG2 for portability reasons and to save money; I have used three Beheringer pedals and learned that they last about three years, so if planning to play for more than three years the more expensive LG2 will be less expensive in the long run. It is way smaller and lighter and allow more switches/pedals including the option of four additional analog expression pedals and/or on/off/momentary switches. http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php As for the SoftStep I was very excited with it at the projecting stage when reading the specifications but I withdraw my pre order as the release was almost half a year delayed. I was afraid that a company that misses proper scheduling that far may not succeed very well with their pre release product testing and I don't want to sacrifice my musical ambitions and booked concerts to become an unpaid beta tester. So the Gordius was the only player left for me and I can only say I'm very happy with it. If you get ono, be sure to set up a bootcamp Windows partition on your MBPro so you can run the Windows only (Mac version coming, but who knows when...) to manage your Gordius banks efficiently. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote= : > I'm trying to decide on which to buy: SoftStep or Behringer 1010. I plan = on > buying a MacBook Pro and run Mobius, Logic and Digital Performer on it. I= 'm > hoping to create a very portable system, something I can carry on the tra= in > with a guitar and lute. Of course the SS is appealing because of the size > and capabilities. The 1010 could be strapped to the guitar if need be, bu= t > smaller is better, I think, for portability. I just got the Korg Nano > Kontrol, Pad & Key. These are obviously small enough. > My dilemma, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is I am patience-challeng= ed > and it is getting worse with age. I am struggling to learn Logic now, but= it > is not too terrible because it is, well, logical (and I have 25 years > experience using Performer). I got pretty frustrated with the Boss RC-2, = so > that will give you an idea of my threshold. My question: Is the=C2=A0Soft= Step > ready for prime-time? There are so many appealing things about it, I want= it > to be a winner. However, from some of the reviews I've read and what Adam > said, I'm afraid it might be a recipe for frustration for me. I'm just a > beginner with looping. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 10:19:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AD0183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=8K4bdX3XaIwuuxUjMr7QBjzHxHJCPhuIuxzNbmRMaRQ=; b=RPLxAE1S39wvND2mfvjM9oXbcBzjqkn6e1n0fqFJmmwOHY7rC2mToA3jkawAqsqj/3 shGwcNEHnjRsZvBhImi+DSfG+Wu7zoHuxpkP8TmZt7Uht/mPbO4z0FeMQ+b6zGj2Qffb OO6VxCm+XQThBSXx/rG1cW5UM34MUf0R09s08= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=NGfk8VrlUn+zr16qjxkhUv/fn1AliCHGWbK0HJpRm2RYacezmvlRDaRIFJVHpyhMKm w0+uzBcovYS77YTjQRaJIiEvY+lgpKnVIlhbKJ2uRjxvSntBB5fX6CupJ72PugMjszow qOxxzxjiPL4rTkMwO9lRbF39iD+6CWLkDZBBY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 05:19:25 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <29D2B194-3D32-4FA2-9680-9995E3C7F15B@gmail.com> References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <3SJbv.A.9eF.xWnTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Ed. I might use that quote in the future:) I saw you wrote your = looping lute. I used to play G Violone in an early music ensemble. Such = a pain to tune the gut and tune the frets just right but you could get = so many awesome colors from it. I could sound like an oboe if I wanted:) The Softstep is not primetime yet but it's getting there. The software = goes extremely deep so it took me awhile to wrap my head around it. = Although, I came from a fcb1010 and if you've never used one of those = before it is definitely a test of one's patience to learn to program it = as well. The most patience challenging of all, at least in my = experience, has been using a computer, to do looping. I am always = troubleshooting something but in return I get flexibility and sound = quality as good as my audio interface.=20 Todd Matthews On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:33 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > I'm trying to decide on which to buy: SoftStep or Behringer 1010. I >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 10:46:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E226A183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wEPby/+F6shpuayC09c/u4CrUYjZHhbYKnpAiLLK/Hs=; b=HBczzIki0M4tL8lOucv+0BbOtz07bYTZRCONSMW7S9Q+F1b3I8HWK5KJj3ti+vvqKz yQwW4YCOC+BVuu3JJa98bf7FB8RpFPNmJNaZuEDCbYa2yuHuAakDNJ9t0JnFiAnETLKB 3R3T1Q57p2VhYyPT3nH0scLMq66Ro9Yc5LVUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ES4pPZrmm/i4i5gjlbmxIy+BtOfDioe3GLzMjVxYj1F4YzfQ1Bg/DXCT4td7qyjyC+ TgU4DAe1S+qu4JZyBFKrl9HEAoDCgVVSPx1gzx0em6VNAbyjV5FFeQaIiEj6AoMZdndG JJhK08CMSXnSgxhWaPWrvm0WxPxRt4gjuWHiQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <-4993471356290023893@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 To: Ed Durbrow , loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 10:46:53 +0000 (UTC) You replied that to me, but seem to have intended it for the list, so I post on the list with your mail still attached. (remember to use plain text to the list BTW- I have reformatted you, ouch!) Yes both Per and I would recommend the Gordius, but only he(Per) has really any right to, as he has one! I am sure that some of the other pedals suggested also do what you need. But that is really the point, what do you NEED? I believe that apart from the size, you will be very happy with the FCB in combination with Mobius. I use this exact setup for my laptop solution. The later FCBs have good firmware and there are editors for them, personally I still have firmware v.1 and it works for me, and I have become deft at programming the bugger, although some find it hard to start with, if you get one on MY recommendation, I will happily be your personal guide, to set up for Mobius. Per has an outstanding approach for setting standard numbers for all the pedals, (one huge boring job) and then using the software (Mobius) to do all the work from then on, never have to touch the pedal again. This only works for software that can "midi Learn" and not at all for hardware. So, on my FCB I have Banks ascending from Bank zero (1,2,3,4 etc) programmed with simple arbitary ascending CC numbers) and Banks descending from 0 (9, 8 7 6) are specifically programmer with bits of hardware in mind, EDPs and Fireworx mostly) So I have 2 totally separate setups on for software and one for hardware. Most beginners need to discovr if looping is really for them, and therfore its better not to spend too much straight out, doncha think? Mark On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Ed Durbrow wrot= e: > > Thanks Mark & Per. > The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does= the Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do?=A0And how about = the Roland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the t= ime, but they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I ne= ed, but if I can assign them in a way that I could get different tonalities= , more would certainly be better. I have very little experience looping, bu= t I'm very attracted to what William Walker was doing where he was able to = change the tonalities. > I plan on working with Mobius. Different loops and aspects that exploit t= he Mobius but don't take a programmer to program, would be what I'd want to= trigger/switch from a footcontroller. > On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:01 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > No that is just a extra bit to the FCB, it adds LOTS of functionality, li= ke the ability to send on different midi chanels, thats a bit wierd on the = FCB. If you look further you will see that make actual pedals too, the gord= uis 2 I think its called. This is the one admired by decerning loopers, aft= er having been with FCBs for a while. It depends on budget. What were you t= rying to do with FCB again, I can tell you if you are ok... I love it BTW, = its just BIG, HEAVY and has some silly limitations. Some find it hard to pr= ogram, not me... I have a whole post on my blog I can direct you to about p= rogramming it. The manual is well.. rather German, accurate but complicated= . > > > Mark > > > > Hi Ed, > > Before deciding on what foot MIDI controller board to go with, be sure > to also check out the GORDIUS Little Giant 2! I personally switched to > the LG2 for portability reasons and to save money; I have used three > Beheringer pedals and learned that they last about three years, so if > planning to play for more than three years the more expensive LG2 will > be less expensive in the long run. It is way smaller and lighter and > allow more switches/pedals including the option of four additional > analog expression pedals and/or on/off/momentary switches. > http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php > > As for the SoftStep I was very excited with it at the projecting stage > when reading the specifications but I withdraw my pre order as the > release was almost half a year delayed. I was afraid that a company > that misses proper scheduling that far may not succeed very well with > their pre release product testing and I don't want to sacrifice my > musical ambitions and booked concerts to become an unpaid beta tester. > > So the Gordius was the only player left for me and I can only say I'm > very happy with it. If you get ono, be sure to set up a bootcamp > Windows partition on your MBPro so you can run the Windows only (Mac > version coming, but who knows when...) to manage your Gordius banks > efficiently. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 11:50:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4594E183466; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FJpfaP6A+PBDeWlSMI63ovT+f8I+U9Lz7mENcB93e1o=; b=XygFZ7q+HRjz9AEahm7ATtiMDUqg0jFbQv7LNxVl2kXWcj7FRFa7aBYsT/KvZKf3NO wS3rH2FpgD37FB7wtwg7t9euHk+YXJsvkfDkryYHA5dc19bdKSDnHsfFOKFrwm5171Yc JN+JB0Obsogqgct2eCfyZu8+Qqh8YP28nfIGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GbomtdONCmDPywq0Aa8hoVdEz248/LSH6jNSgp1rbgidqiDA3LTxhukO5aWejwQFKG a2+YjTFTnjdjPn0Qwy+IyUQl924WrHpYLRcJpthiKd4N1ChphpW8JWsxlGajm05B61q0 J71Mrp2bC7sah+6waSxnmrg2UvRcqimm+atI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:50:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:50:29 +0000 (UTC) nice as always my amigo! how long you been playing man? do i have any hopes?._)) On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I did a video of some loopin of Radiohead's No Surprises off of ok computer > this morning. I still have a lot of issues to work out but this video take > is as good as I can play it at this moment in time. Seems like every time I > focus on the music I miss a footswitch or two I was supposed to hit at an > important time or if I focus on hitting the footswitches at the right moment > then I f' up the music making. I need another brain. A core 2 duo brain so I > can multitask! > > > http://vimeo.com/19597693 > > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 12:41:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75550183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576475367/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.22.210/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.22.210 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYBAOYlTk1YbRbS/2dsb2JhbAAMlwPIToVaBI8J X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,433,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="576475367" Message-ID: <4D4E971D.50507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:42:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT References: <20110206021321.155DF18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2hQxFD.A.BKB.OcpTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC) I'm thinking along the same lines. I got the Pigtronix Philosopher King, and I'm a bit unsure about it. (it's the same compressor as the PT, but adds Attack/Decay/trem) Partly, though, the reason I've got it is to get used to what a guitar compressor does, and what it feels like. ( to help with writing vst plugins) Am I right in assuming that the Pigtronix units are typical, and a good example? It does have problems. If I'm using it with a battery amp, on Bypass I notice that there's no hum if I remove the psu cable! ( no way should a 'true bypass' be able to introduce hum) ..and the hum is to bad to use the pedal at all. Perhaps that's the noise problem Mark has, although of course being in uk I don't have the exact same wall wart. A couple of time the sound dripped out completely, or went quiet and distorted, not sure if that's the PK's fault but going from what Bill says about the construction I wouldn't be surprised. (no wonder they really stress not to open it up!) Also, there's a nasty click when the pedal is engaged. To me, the controls don't really seem to make the compressor controllable in any way. Doesn't seem possible to completely eradicate the 'phut' and the beginning of the note, especially finger picking low notes. ...but then I've been a "no compression" guy for a number of decades now. I does make for some nice tones tho'. andy William Walker wrote: > >> This is my new best friend, this compressor is every bit the pedal >> the keeley is but quieter like the carl martin ( I currently own all >> three) and cheaper than both, tiny so you can leave it on and tuck it >> somewhere unobtrusive. the grit control is a bit fizzy for me but >> works well as a spice when using another overdrive pedal, or when >> maxed with the sustain maxed. Runs from 9-18 volts, but not on >> batteries, comes with a power supply. > > > Well, I have to eat my words a bit on this one, Though I really like > its sound and small size. my PT is currently on its way back to the > factory, due to an intermittent power issue. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 14:55:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42C9183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=fS6Fw7d+JQGRwuvRMRSZ/HKOJ7FqzARL/CqBmKPXl14=; b=wgapuIM+Rp260xIFJJ2IgCywmRPmOIZErzzKH2ztYQ0NnhaOo293gc4VhPbzUI0wg0 BX8KhjdISP23BDSyZMbpNQdQf+fGDEPHvrx9cQ6gVPWyB/bmJIvvn5vs6oDBeQQA2/jC Ne/uEiOnT5DjooCptZdo6kratWhbhwlnZvoM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=IGVNFIZPe4kJZQdfKBZAH1rXmI/TLRX8NSFYyRkDlzf0CNs0uACqHD9mbuBGDxVe+o R7vVw/EjqKcVyf4pAZ/nEAwZvjS/iDjcfpwrN8abvOnVz8F+piJb9sN+o+bBJ3Pl3NUi VdF6c+aImjBEn+yewuevR/AFNc1LRCnfHtGIQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:55:32 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks mi amigo :) My money is on you. You got the golden vocal chords! The sky's the limit = with those. On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > nice as always my amigo! > how long you been playing man? do i have any hopes?._)) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 16:23:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09969183478; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9535B238-5430-4B67-B3B3-021834429A3F@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-874591092 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:22:50 -0800 References: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3rKL6D.A.COG.jrsTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:22:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-874591092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yeah, backed off appropriately, it just seems to add a nice punch to > the sound. The jury is still out on the grit which is pretty fizzy > and seems to add a fair amount of noise (though it cleans right up > when I mute my strings). It also seems to do much better first in my > chain which makes the issues with not liking the girth of the > Monster plug a more annoying issue since it's going to force me to > change cables or throw in an adapter. But I'm coming to like adding > a touch of compression enough that I'm probably going to feel > motivated to resolve that issue. > > Disappointed to hear that the build quality is low since reviews had > tended to be fairly positive about Pigtronix. > > Mark > Ok I'll say it, monster cables suck, our store stopped carrying them, I think they are so much hype and bs and the reality is they are poorly constructed and their oversized 1/4 barrels have a tendency to widen and loosen input jacks so that other cables end up being sloppy feeling in those same jacks.. They have an extra layer of foil sheilding which is fine until the foil starts to deteriorate and then they become microphonic and subject to handling noise. Monster cables are another example of cheap chinese manufacturer, great marketing and our collective stupidity. I have a few at home if any one wants them. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-874591092 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Yeah, backed off = appropriately, it just seems to add a nice punch to the sound. The jury = is still out on the grit which is pretty fizzy and seems to add a fair = amount of noise (though it cleans right up when I mute my = strings). It also seems to do much better first in my chain which = makes the issues with not liking the girth of the Monster plug a more = annoying issue since it's going to force me to change cables or throw in = an adapter. But I'm coming to like adding a touch of compression enough = that I'm probably going to feel motivated to resolve that = issue.

Disappointed to hear that the build quality is low = since reviews had tended to be fairly positive about = Pigtronix.

Mark


Ok I'll = say it, monster cables suck, our store stopped carrying them, I think = they are so much hype and bs and the reality is they are poorly = constructed and their oversized 1/4 barrels have a tendency to widen and = loosen input jacks so that other cables end up being sloppy feeling in = those same jacks.. They have an extra layer of foil sheilding which is = fine until the foil starts to deteriorate and then they become = microphonic and subject to handling noise. Monster cables are another = example of cheap chinese manufacturer, great marketing and our = collective stupidity. I have a few at home if any one wants = them.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-874591092-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 17:04:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25DAD183466; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JpWMk0T6wMekcpbKJsrbrgzGwfaGpJYJsIfMnOncSYU=; b=Gd36hui9gzWqSlwhJf6OztRfDNPYZ4adClsfvv3nWp0S0Ui2uX6+9oNuY2gJGkuMMe 0zRVDUVix5XRQ3w4Lhl7yy/WZVkOqz7HKB9nCNWXGZY8Bq6zjDRpC96lXZAY87rLlaC4 mv95h4xHFlV1V/guuSnfxWAsNvtPXRNZfBRiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U6Z/1cug7xDQUtBa3n4w9yWv/o+EyikdLVrG7BYm9BBwh/S62i9WK7d6c68/fz6BgM IcDFJjU1aJoa+zWdd+UNwhOmPIEPbOSsZRaAUQmoVfSG/oFuzhjQxTmv2YN/+WkuyH2F XfZtmxPY6kknvP0eosJPBjCpbpwX7SOXc9QMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9535B238-5430-4B67-B3B3-021834429A3F@baymoon.com> References: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> <9535B238-5430-4B67-B3B3-021834429A3F@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:04:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:04:30 +0000 (UTC) monster cable is absolute garbage. all of mine became microphonic in short order and into the trash they went. - jim On Sunday, February 6, 2011, William Walker wrote: > > > > Yeah, backed off appropriately, it just seems to add a nice punch to the = sound. The jury is still out on the grit which is pretty fizzy and seems to= add a fair amount of noise (though it cleans right up when I mute my strin= gs).=A0It also seems to do much better first in my chain which makes the is= sues with not liking the girth of the Monster plug a more annoying issue si= nce it's going to force me to change cables or throw in an adapter. But I'm= coming to like adding a touch of compression enough that I'm probably goin= g to feel motivated to resolve that issue. > Disappointed to hear that the build quality is low since reviews had tend= ed to be fairly positive about Pigtronix. > Mark > > Ok I'll say it, monster cables suck, our store stopped carrying them, I t= hink they are so much hype and bs and the reality is they are poorly constr= ucted and their oversized 1/4 barrels have a tendency to widen and loosen i= nput jacks so that other cables end up being sloppy feeling in those same j= acks.. They have an extra layer of foil sheilding which is fine until the f= oil starts to deteriorate and then they become microphonic and subject to h= andling noise. Monster cables are another example of cheap chinese manufact= urer, great marketing and our collective stupidity. I have a few at home if= any one wants them.Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 17:07:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EE52183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q45ZRQM0EuEPbmBgZSWV70Jh8+wtgBAT+HA9Ql1fBFw=; b=Lh+6omoZMSD+0N41DLXZJEL6FWGdstOaH1C/4k3YHCEBLDyfaAHDwhwKYKqMtuLTdQ n0oLTdLOORU266nhAciwE8QiOqIG++Dwq39dAix0S5Gw3KRmQFvCbljBGVGdPx8/JwVD rmRWuQhfhq1GeaDxH25dtOjIyrIKULRbqtiEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mRnD9q+/h3Jkwm0LXm1YcEVo6tnYNN8iMXcFR5MqXDic++6AKjGyd0nVEqN755SQ+U cinmJkg0g6nm7nmPqno0pOlm7RYr7GDrqqorFQ4mWAXvYp8h7MfVZBvkhmQmq58X88Oc uwL2gMppyo9hWAY6yjtARYyYG5EKy2+MeWkjs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:49:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm pleased to announce that the 2nd Premonition Factory release. =93The sense of time=94 will be available as a 6 page limited edition deluxe CD and can be ordered from the Premonition Factory store. The release will also be available as digital download on iTunes, Amazon, CDBaby, Emusic and bandcamp as of early March. Pre-orders include a free digital download of all 9 tracks and free shipping. Some info about this album: all tracks are excerpts of 2-track live improvisation recordings. Additional production and post-production has been done by Markus Reuter (Germany), mastering has been done by Lee Fletcher (UK). Instrumements and loopers I've used on this album: Reaktor, Nord Wave, V-Synth, Augustus Loop, Little Spacey, M13, M400. Enjoy :) More info and a preview on http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/sense-of-time-pre-order-now-availabl= e Thanks, and enjoy the music :) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 17:20:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C4C183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lhaOOF+a/6CKJyT94pSe5VIpCrnFEybLsq5FnMIRf1o=; b=h/+8uLfrI6D4W/aWhiu9OGb88sJbqfnSjzHMM6XUzqdy6FWK1RMcATjvV0+3vuU3bZ PCNl9IHlHq+yrMV/OPIOYlcrkOYtNV06YFpJF4uSNK1z3/ple5BlO2LnsVLkhJCgWxzI T07KwKBrLJSzJbnc7BQBH07hk6unXF8BxIlzw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ypk0rogGTyjNfnczQLJNAwyRjLPj2sGLXjE6YTf19KqivbhA/eAnZYgm+F52HU+8V9 SECefJ9zhLqDCIdxinv8mVEBZfXVH6NvBVjFz2ODvuijn9gq2wlfBlxIhO3oKAdVbraK os0omb5ZBEtkjbE1vgW4oucaEbgEVzOaZUXKU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:20:19 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f6eb5f07d7049ba054a7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 17:20:20 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f6eb5f07d7049ba054a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable congrats!! i'll pick mine up when i see you, bud! sim On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi, > I'm pleased to announce that the 2nd Premonition Factory release. =93The > sense of time=94 will be available as a 6 page limited edition deluxe CD > --00163630f6eb5f07d7049ba054a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable congrats!!

i'll pick mine up when i see you, bud!

sim
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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Sjaak Overga= auw <tcplugin@gm= ail.com> wrote:
Hi,
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--00163630f6eb5f07d7049ba054a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 18:32:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CC7F183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 Thread-Index: AcvGLCvZaxkWSaoAS9iWU/vWWwBZMg== Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:31:45 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2011 18:32:13.0427 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C4C9C30:01CBC62C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Ed Dont forget Midibuddy pedal, small and reliable and cheap. Only send program= change but if you are software based simple system you might not need fancy= messages coming from the pedal.=20 Love Japan!! Have done seven Bluegrass tours there over the years.=20 Andy of the O gene pool= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 18:34:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0666E183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 Thread-Index: AcvGLHYENX1MFdM0TV+41nqJVMsn0Q== Message-ID: <5351E96C-D00E-46DE-BF8C-B3A4D24251D3@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:33:52 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2011 18:34:17.0895 (UTC) FILETIME=[767CEB70:01CBC62C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:34:18 +0000 (UTC) And doesnt rocktron or somebody make a small box that does midi mapping so y= ou send it prgram change and it will send a string of midi messages for you?= Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 18:41:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22672183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SHS39vOeuf6tEM3ydmF5Kv2WCfzrHxGzmEkkgocrTtg=; b=WDi3AnmVOhWHl0zEr18wIXlQcUNDhWi+kQ3a4izTjX4/4ktOkk0kmNcgDAIvQOYze6 d6Sjt/VgSQDaTpeONaK8A9TO3kq0iSQJhBjIljyX+iRrPPH13I+c1SSWSKDxhkmeth88 exrhQm0jS38wuiKPh+myA8rF87+YwUNcI8Os0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=E0xR5nx95CtlVzO6YW2kU1sPkpGUsd7dUiivYeJ5FqzjMAVaWzp9qmvlSDe7p6iL6+ IVLZVHX6RRZcIulL7oe7PMAnuPXzU/A8YVgbqps4pSvq7D52IdQeREY7wX2W7Z270lYd QRYZlmnlevug7n1qqSV/mtjh/cH8gKWLhq9Hg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <-4993471356290023893@unknownmsgid> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:40:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 To: Ed Durbrow , loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:41:16 +0000 (UTC) One thing to check, does the pedal you choose do momentary... As in send a message on foot down and another with foot off. YOu will need this with Mobius. FCB 1010 does that if you use it to send notes or CC I think, and mobius will handle both. If a pedal only does pgm change, Im not sure it will beable to do that cos the mechanics of the pedal do not make it possible.. I might be wrong, just a warning... Not all pedals are good for looping, you NEED that sustain action my friend, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 18:53:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94475183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:53:02 UTC Message-ID: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: Subject: Booster Echoplex New Video Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:46:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110206-1, 06/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 17040776566582329010 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.220.38.49 (ip-49.net-81-220-38.lyon.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.500052/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Hope you'll enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 19:00:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 694F9183478; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <211DAEF7-5996-4749-95EC-56181E260302@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Gordius little Giant vs Mecha Godzilla Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:00:17 -0800 References: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1DH_gB.A.7mD.K_uTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:00:26 +0000 (UTC) I came very close to pulling the trigger on a Softstep on Friday, which was the last day of a special NAMM offer they were having for people who entered their giveaway contest at NAMM. I think I was partly inspired by the comments posted complaining of click noise on my last youtube post, and because I'm wanting to do more loop recording at home with open mics. so far using an old roland gfc 50 pedal as a slighly quieter bank of preset switches is helping, but the lack of click noise and the incredibly deep architecture of the soft step really is pretty astounding. At first I was put off by a few things like one measly expression pedal port, untill I realized you can assign its switches to behave like a continuous controller pedal. But having said that, the Gordius is amazing, really well built and very powerfull. I wish there was a way to minimize the noise that was easy and cost effective. because the Gordius can trigger with the lightest of touch, I wish there was some kind of simple rubber cap that could be glued to the switches that kept them from traveling far enough to create an audible click. Then there was Andy B's idea of insultaing the chassis with foam inside, haven't tried that one yet. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 19:12:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C23183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <9535B238-5430-4B67-B3B3-021834429A3F@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:12:21 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A24E65F-55D3-48A3-A67F-0FE3A1B11185@grubmah.com> References: <20110206124151.ED7A218347E@arsenic.violacea.com> <9535B238-5430-4B67-B3B3-021834429A3F@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:12:24 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:22 AM, William Walker wrote: > Ok I'll say it, monster cables suck, our store stopped carrying them, = I think they are so much hype and bs and the reality is they are poorly = constructed and their oversized 1/4 barrels have a tendency to widen and = loosen input jacks so that other cables end up being sloppy feeling in = those same jacks.. They have an extra layer of foil sheilding which is = fine until the foil starts to deteriorate and then they become = microphonic and subject to handling noise. Monster cables are another = example of cheap chinese manufacturer, great marketing and our = collective stupidity. I have a few at home if any one wants them. It was a tonal improvement over its predecessor, but I've worried about = what they may be doing to the jacks they are plugged into. What cables = do you like for your pedal board and from the guitar? (I was surprised = to find the Planet Waves cable kit had the same problem with overly = large plugs though nowhere near as severe as the Monster problem.) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 19:12:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D284B183473; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:12:44 -0800 Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Message-ID: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:12:47 +0000 (UTC) SSBnb3QgYSBzb2Z0c3RlcCB0byByZXBsYWNlIG15IDEwMTAgYnV0IDQgbW9udGhzIGluIGFuZCBJ J20gc3RpbGwgbm90IHVzaW5nIGl0IGZvciB0aGUgc2FtZSByZWFzb25zIGFzIGV2ZXJ5b25lIGVs c2UuICBJIHdhbnQgS01JIHRvIHN0YXkgaW4gYml6IGFuZCBrZWVwIGRldmVsb3BpbmcgaXQgdGhv Li4uLnNvIEknbSB0cnlpbmcgdG8gc3RheSBwb3NpdGl2ZS4gSnVzdCBhIGZldyBtb3JlIG1vbnRo cyBvZiBsdWdnaW5nIHRoZSAxMDEwIGFyb3VuZCB0aGUgZ2xvYmUgaG9wZWZ1bGx5IQoKQW5keSBP d2VucyA8YW5keUAxODAwZGlhbHdvcmQuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKCj5BbmQgZG9lc250IHJvY2t0cm9u IG9yIHNvbWVib2R5IG1ha2UgYSBzbWFsbCBib3ggdGhhdCBkb2VzIG1pZGkgbWFwcGluZyBzbyB5 b3Ugc2VuZCBpdCBwcmdyYW0gY2hhbmdlIGFuZCBpdCB3aWxsIHNlbmQgYSBzdHJpbmcgb2YgbWlk aSBtZXNzYWdlcyBmb3IgeW91Pwo+Cj5BbmR5IG8K From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 20:00:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2C42183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <4D4E971D.50507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:00:48 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110206021321.155DF18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> <0C1522EE-C09A-4861-B910-CACADC9EF74A@baymoon.com> <4D4E971D.50507@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:00:51 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:42 AM, andy butler wrote: > Perhaps that's the noise problem Mark has, although of course being in = uk I don't have the exact same wall wart. My "noise" issues aren't hum. I think I may just be amplifying noise = from the pickups. (My Taylor seems particularly sensitive to my iMac.) My issue with the grit control is that it seems mostly to just add a = layer of fizz or sizzle over the top of the note. Maybe that's why it is = called "grit". Interesting, maybe, but it's also interesting that the = "manual" for the pedal even advises to leave grit turned all the way = down. Why include a knob that you then advise people to not use? Backing off on the controls, however, does yield some very nice, = relatively subtle compression. I find myself better able to play those = funk rhythms Bill was teaching me 20 years ago. Or rather, the results = are better articulated. With regard to the switch, I don't notice any popping in the actual = audio when hitting it, but it is a really loud foot switch. We'll see how the thing holds up. I keep being intrigued by Pigtronix's = products and then disappointed when I actually try them. I may just not = like the sounds that David Koltai does. The Philosopher's Tone, however, = looks likely to find a permanent home in my pedal chain whereas my = previous exploration of a standalone compressor -- a Digitech Main = Squeeze -- got used briefly and then just sat on a shelf. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 20:04:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A616183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xrtxsodMgBEMhLZoUwV9DLggMiyw9O/EbvpfE7lAKII=; b=lSRJuNp7VlxHCHRfjd9C/ttQDy1/rx2FUEGQKIPRLkTndaEZBrqYEKsuDFHmKUPTY2 2D6FqnKPMoQ5hlVbKr1kzfg04+KxSSZS2VOlDZ4l7+2sXVuTIBdPcnyW0HV/YPBIWwGD d+ohxVD5viP5neWj5tBuTRpLaymdnEpY/Dazo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jq9gD0h1yyUzs9oS78hs6jbCb8lslHc/c47dkIoYY2A9PJ2Kbc7huJtH/wL90mkFgE folP/dIa2Im0gn2X9EVd7+ihveeqSbkjsK/HVTscXg9wCSNkKs1s0eJYo1OFw5tOtcll jvKdPLcTlwpYbSDI7SPiFMZ4YlprO66Cl6hLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Just one note on the Behringer FCB1010 that I forgot to tell in my previous post: All three FCB pedalboards I have owned have leaked out random MIDI CC# data that you have not programmed it to send out. Since this happens now and then by random the only way to protect yourself from sudden disasters is to lead its MIDI output through a MIDI filter that will only let through those MIDI events that you have programmed your instruments to react on. And even then you are not safe because it might happen that a random MIDI leak happens to match one of the events you have programmed for the execution of a certain command and... well, go figure. This was a HUGE problem for me on my old hardware rig Electixpro Repeater/Echoplex EDP/Akai Filterbank because those hardware boxes didn't allow you to set up filtering. When using Bidule on the laptop hosting the Mobius looper I stayed free from this evil bug for a couple of years but then I wanted to use Apple Mainstage and all hell broke lose again, since Mainstage keeps some mixer functions "hard wired" to the classic MIDI mapping system General MIDI put forth by Roland in the eighties (CC#7 for volume, CC#10 for pan etc). So if a random leaked MIDI event happens to math one of these GM events your gig may be fried right there. Bottom line here is that the Gordius Little Giant 2 does NOT send out anything except what I have programmed it to send out and this makes it perfect for me to use with Mainstage in the laptop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 20:57:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E36C2183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tNrISZ4QsCQqZ2gINViTUiVgDDrE0DTMqBlqNKzwDNo=; b=uM5IwHyc9rTvDKVK9laEoHsB1W8NaRlc/ZyS/f80pnX9tziuD4+hxE33KShuKlGASY mkZ1f85F1i7wjqRNDLd5vvCK7yhuuLIYanfhhNGDDHIeEi48dEbHMTuHbDQQiK1HOJpi KIlOHfaAzEsG6vqBA/qYZJApWGqFtLWwsQdAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xq17O9BkqflKxGYqySCSzGoOp+ejXXj1MW5bnZ0CEr2EHmjRtfcz+QjFQMJbC/HWQ2 zkJjoMypC/ozNbI3neOhKNOFu2fr0wxh6ys9Cf8RzHNRjEhdz97JcKyaVkyccClCvJox R2Qwpz3R4tzxAm6MgHjeptqX2V3Bq6HqVuwaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:57:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Exciting news, Sjaak! I like your previous album a lot and can't wait to listen to this one. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi, > I'm pleased to announce that the 2nd Premonition Factory release. =E2=80= =9CThe > sense of time=E2=80=9D will be available as a 6 page limited edition delu= xe CD > and can be ordered from the Premonition Factory store. The release > will also be available as digital download on iTunes, Amazon, CDBaby, > Emusic and bandcamp as of early March. Pre-orders include a free > digital download of all 9 tracks and free shipping. > > Some info about this album: all tracks are excerpts of 2-track live > improvisation recordings. Additional production and post-production > has been done by Markus Reuter (Germany), mastering has been done by > Lee Fletcher (UK). Instrumements and loopers I've used on this album: > Reaktor, Nord Wave, V-Synth, Augustus Loop, Little Spacey, M13, M400. > Enjoy :) > > More info and a preview on > http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/sense-of-time-pre-order-now-availa= ble > > Thanks, and enjoy the music :) > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 20:57:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ECC8183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D4F0B36.4020208@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 15:57:26 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for February 5, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 20:57:32 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110205.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #191 February 5, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Synth.nl Antartico OceanoGraphy (Groove) Synth.nl Balaenoptera OceanoGraphy (Groove) VA [David Lan] Freefall Sequences No. 12 VA [Brian Rogers] Morning Flight Sequences No. 12 Darren Rogers Celestial Voices The Ancients (Imagineer) from the Heavens Gert Emmens Opaque Divergence Metamorphosis (Groove) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Josh Johnston Missed Her On the The Shape of Things (Shandon) Road Paradiso and Transformation 3rd Eye Rising (5th Element) Rasamayi Matthew Schoening Water Elements (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Anekdoten 30 Pieces Chapters (K-scope) Blackfield The Hole In Me NYC (K-scope) Blackfield 1,000 People NYC (K-scope) Steve Hackett Watcher of the Skies Live Archive (Camino) Steve Hackett Hairless Heart Live Archive (Camino) Steve Hackett Firth of Fifth Live Archive (Camino) Steve Hackett Riding the Colossus* Live Archive (Camino) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 21:45:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B881A183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/ULKh9B3ZcnF0qAakPVbmo+8mpnwf70Grq/8b+ooDIA=; b=IU/Q1FrQpTQgraXv7rfLQHQVgAJGFC1WcxKu6O9cf5f/8YJavvBd0OsV1S8RAjptlZ q23o6bv8E1J8gSqDHaBCvD+/x20ACoLUX2fVjrdXEF+s/PRVwKeLpi6WNmPYTTw5EpJS O3IrzeSy8Xkkbe7tEyYxyXOtXMr88auDU+GQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OcLAtIROWcqgSm5deMyz3hYSeh8Hn/II3KtpZNV1D0nf1NMkvXCBVGQgg36SLxgCXU 5aIkPEDjC3QFeoRoXKWDXE7y7bKXGtrMLNUfOWe2akGS2UQteFoclfPcdc1MMIi/Qe2f iFTdB9egR+YLOiBg56W79st49piwJTbjLqSWM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:45:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:45:31 +0000 (UTC) anybody know if this would work wth the EDP? http://www.g66.eu/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=15&flypage=shop.flypage_fractal&product_id=100&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=91 heres the manual http://www.fractalaudio.com/support-fractal.html it says it sends notes on,yet the liquid foot did as well but i could not get it to work with somer of the virtual comands. cheers Luis On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Ed > > Dont forget Midibuddy pedal, small and reliable and cheap. Only send program change but if you are software based simple system you might not need fancy messages coming from the pedal. > > Love Japan!! Have done seven Bluegrass tours there over the years. > > Andy of the O gene pool > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 22:14:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00C0D183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2EHsjm/VDyCluC2hpRXh94DZHrwRQ02VB89a1/wp+zc=; b=m7aq2TFSWQ3hyx14pZFSAOFDSYDuDZPz2wele4kM4/Re5YXx4DG8yWHDM6nu7wynXf fi9B17w0+l4G7P+joZ5tTMDsOt8efAwIa9aAXotbWf60d6orOI29koiRDDT1JyKMNpR9 2mfW8zvVFrSHWDR8H9sVQiolehdIs3FUI0zfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XwArY8muLwzL/SQFXmpW1j0IZLGlKJr+u/KTiyzgWBE3PNB6/1BlMGfn4ZPH6hc0N/ XUIbc/Vy3k9iKujnt3R2TdLEXVRTfq7DTCi5DUuSvXGgs8E7MS7Yjrxd3CrFD1Su+DC9 6688L7iA6fLdOeRljqUo3B45plMG8rmo13GpI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:14:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Exciting news, Sjaak! I like your previous album a lot and can't wait > to listen to this one. Hi Per, Thanks! It's difficult to say anything about your own work but this album contains more drones and minimal elements compared to the previous one. Looking forward to meet you in Cologne again :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 22:21:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513B9183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I/Mz0yvm22mCUErqceZB5L5aBxt4MznyBcNGPL5qPRc=; b=YjQ6VZfjZCGDU1Zoqy0Yd+dVVtVPO8bETAumMcxl2Cl7Do+XItI7hCpkJj0KT0nZEX NUvKHkvCKk05s7Vm5krBRqSV2ZIuCT+slHYyigt/AXs5ewy9ge3Hcj2ouwjVNsEc4pMH rixrM+iGU7FKR8H5z5IcpmnYqgKBUa0PhyDeA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aBvHofg2yfhYbbogGP+ljZ6IWO3SqdG9WKrV5UArZj7CYriztqLrbjfRKZYGphpie1 h/u2WEG8Jd2JaXkYkAFeVrk3HdRQoG7S1jNoHjBYk2QdGUNRMNRcLlYnKItjfqYxHpHC ZeBSB7nVKIUkotgFDxgrDupHVr/zCWZ2urd9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:21:29 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'll throw another midi controller into the mix. I traded my FCB1010 for an IK StealthPedal, Boss FS-6 Dual Footswitch and an M-Audio expression pedal. With this setup you are limited to 2 buttons and two expression pedals. It's also significantly more expensive, almost triple the price of the Behringer when you add it all up. Still, it packs up small and the software to program the midi setup is much, much easier than the FCB1010 and very flexible. It's USB so unlike the FCB1010 you don't need a midi interface.I definitely recommend it to those that are patience challenged and can live with two buttons. --- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 22:44:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77AA3183476; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110206214532.A5459183478@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-897461503 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:44:01 -0800 References: <20110206214532.A5459183478@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:44:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-897461503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got the Pigtronix Philosopher King, and I'm a bit unsure about it. (it's the same compressor as the PT, but adds Attack/Decay/trem) Do tell, so is it a true ADSR and do the expression pedal ports do anything at all? A couple of time the sound dripped out completely, or went quiet and distorted, not sure if that's the PK's fault but going from what Bill says about the construction I wouldn't be surprised. (no wonder they really stress not to open it up!) that sounds like that wimpy solderless connector thing happening on the board Also, there's a nasty click when the pedal is engaged. thats not good To me, the controls don't really seem to make the compressor controllable in any way. Doesn't seem possible to completely eradicate the 'phut' and the beginning of the note, especially finger picking low notes. ...but then I've been a "no compression" guy for a number of decades now. you talking expression pedals or the knobs themselves? again I say compression should be a subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping turn up the input volume, turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 oclock and bring the blend up to taste, treble up full, unless your guitar is particularly bright. Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go out on a limb here and assume it was built in China, so the likely hood of a bad batch of components potentially effecting an entire run of compressors (assuming its the same basic compressor board in both pigtronix models) is not only possible its quite high actually. now I feel really guilty for having sung such high praises of this compressor. Yes I think its a better sounding compressor than most on the market but this is very discouraging to hear. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-897461503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the Pigtronix Philosopher King, and I'm a bit = unsure about it.
(it's the same compressor as the PT, but adds = Attack/Decay/trem)

Do tell, so is it a true ADSR and do the expression = pedal ports do anything at all?
 
A couple of time the sound = dripped out completely, or went quiet and distorted, not sure if that's = the PK's fault but
going from what Bill says about the construction I = wouldn't be surprised.
(no wonder they really stress not to open it = up!)
 
that sounds like that wimpy solderless connector = thing happening on the board

Also, there's a nasty = click when the pedal is engaged.

thats not = good

To me, the controls don't really seem to make the = compressor
controllable in any way.
Doesn't seem possible to = completely eradicate the 'phut' and the beginning
of the note, = especially finger picking low notes.
...but then I've been a "no = compression" guy for a number of decades now.

you talking expression = pedals or the knobs themselves? again I say compression should be a = subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping turn up the input volume, = turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 oclock and bring the blend up = to taste,  treble up full, unless your guitar is particularly = bright.
 Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go = out on a limb here and assume it was built in China, so the likely hood = of a bad batch of components  potentially effecting an entire run = of compressors (assuming its the same basic compressor board in both = pigtronix models) is not only possible its quite high actually. =  now I feel really guilty for having sung such high praises of this = compressor. Yes I think its a better sounding compressor than most on = the market but this is very discouraging to hear.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-897461503-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 22:53:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E08E4183478; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-897995448 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: cables Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:52:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:53:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-897995448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was a tonal improvement over its predecessor, but I've worried about what they may be doing to the jacks they are plugged into. What cables do you like for your pedal board and from the guitar? (I was surprised to find the Planet Waves cable kit had the same problem with overly large plugs though nowhere near as severe as the Monster problem.) I use george L's solderless cables, and i've been using the planet waves circuit breaker cables for a while also a soldeless design. i haven't found the planet waves cables to have the issues the monsters did. Bill --Apple-Mail-2-897995448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was a tonal improvement over its predecessor, but I've worried about what they may be doing to the jacks they are plugged into. What cables do you like for your pedal board and from the guitar? (I was surprised to find the Planet Waves cable kit had the same problem with overly large plugs though nowhere near as severe as the Monster problem.)


I use george L's solderless cables, and i've been using the planet waves circuit breaker cables for a while also a soldeless design.  i haven't found the planet waves cables to have the issues the monsters did.
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-2-897995448-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 6 23:01:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F9BC183477; Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 337858.6712.bm@omp1017.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297033300; bh=gmFv7Y8QNkc9T8eZKpKm2g9n2flDYEOIoJ9oLgV5yNc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WnukhbhANbcki3MIoJ/DT3LiE2WiUqYAvUeYE60NBKxjeVXpWGB2hetaLXTz25sn6z3IaMreLgjA/JyhvUe143rMBqQeG+xLfepExrpj8yEuDra/IcH8mRLcwP5IXwCnzmKu8ynLySNj3efh+XfdsJkRZw1amrU06tZcy6c7oGY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LtepxSukfADiYBxF+P0EOvWen6WYGoIBt8QBZU8wXKM1ROxdIdtdwb9qDAg+dqDBE/6JdLIYGU6N2uvkpNqScHol2Etr+PVV/EfWTmUutgrXVDRPu8krsq7hTTeJx007HU7BoXgvWbz99hEffozr51KFHiw8fSxJUWiYFbF79C4=; Message-ID: <121635.42065.qm@web45308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TPxGdOIVM1mAbvfBYaiq3ODX9xmIjacrQ3SnMTRnVI3LnTj rVvBCLmI9AywFWEDN96ojE1t4qet2652MkbEQhPSikWqVmA8O7uRzUh8316n Jh3kCWYxU5y_fVSwsQmCOMawLenwcHIvjT4322tHchah9FdvkPYKEevUU7Yo 7OCy9biLfEipUZjycA66BC9OHs6h2QL2Tl6xn83W.FFZCuvb7xCVFagXLDan pojhLgIn89gm5WriTv0qRRnyM3lCjWyTh1LmN41gUgZ7a0K67eIG1RNV.RD5 _y.PriQHfE6mRIxX6UXQf1XsfZus3CBBTNk_LPFTOjJVP1ehur5zWdAc136L PgdQiv6I7mQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 15:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: cables To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-541098266-1297033299=:42065" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 23:01:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-541098266-1297033299=:42065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oddly enough, I was just thinking about this during a session yesterday. Se= veral years ago (1996-ish?!?)=A0 I had a healthy supply of cables wired up = by someone called "Wacky Kovacky" and I've been very happy with them, as th= ey're quite durable and color-coded by length. But now I need to order some= more and can't seem to find any web presence for the guy... -t- =0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson =0A --- On Sun, 2/6/11, William Walker wrote: From: William Walker Subject: cables To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 5:52 PM It was a tonal improvement over its predecessor, but I've worried about wha= t they may be doing to the jacks they are plugged into. What cables do you = like for your pedal board and from the guitar? (I was surprised to find the= Planet Waves cable kit had the same problem with overly large plugs though= nowhere near as severe as the Monster problem.) I use george L's solderless cables, and i've been using the planet waves ci= rcuit breaker cables for a while also a soldeless design. =A0i haven't foun= d the planet waves cables to have the issues the monsters did.=A0Bill=0A=0A= =0A --0-541098266-1297033299=:42065 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-541098266-1297033299=:42065-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 00:26:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98843183477; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 720024.9538.bm@omp1060.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297038361; bh=GFtJEGo7Dxed9hhaiEPqHI7BRaO03KHmEe6ZvUZ+hoc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zMkLnltlv6hGE1ELpkySSf5BvckgWuR0HeZW/XgGhCd4AKNSlqy8jS4SWko9gBj9T0QM9kXRFs75X9zhR+bd6bgQ/d/SMJeLfRhvYeqy2v8HgzGq6meKykafoYq10hP8x5d2bryF1bgqiYKn1ytF8oCwL9P8+68mbbuyoZu4c4k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RF+bOUsk5E+PV+pt2DcrE/78Yeqh+2WWstjpp9UIWnby/17X3Oe4m0RgFZXJPC8nV2NBwUrKDE3l381aEGDfx24QmaTC4GRTwwLeTmYBlvhmBf40t0qrLru0SblPOiFIjU3WvTPAfiTozH12Bvf4Mw2J6zHRvw/8Ha/8YpynEec=; Message-ID: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: N_K0sR8VM1n67gU30R_ijtFwkD_1SZEUb6Ci5sEdBnsY0YC yMUlB.pgAHdALOuRAiaP7Vqdqkmguajubr2D4Xk0cM.DjUgdeo_9heWbXxBV VigCzXsHuBhqMO5Ho72ir.qxCktIs3ifLLAFKILaMzx79MaewMXN2a8LVNeg U5xq6_32hYOaxyGsQR632L2y467IMu.qSOl88xbYzeSfWUNU0uEXCMPRfmn7 f_L9phwWze2llRmo9UvbyHy5PXUi1DBrk0qSUdpJaFmZe36GgCZobQSarqEo DGmxOzliiT1ZXN_q9FHysdhV.OdCzM6v3wakN2CT4_EPcB2mEUw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8gvdbB.A.yeH.bwzTNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) >>For me though, well, the Harmonizer has no equal and I'd love to see them= take =0A=0A>>"The Next Step(tm)"... =0A>=0A>Not even the Axe-Fx Ultra? I w= as afraid that could be an Eventide killer.=0A=0AI haven't had a chance to = try one yet.=A0 My guess is that=A0the Axe-FX Ultra is =0Avery good competi= tion for something like the=A0PSA/Eclipse combo, but I'm not sure =0Aif you= could/should try to compare it to the Harmonizer, especially the H8000FW, = =0Awhich is a full fledged studio effects unit including 5.1 capabilities.= =A0=A0I =0Abet=A0the Axe-FX=A0is real competition for the Line6 guys!=A0 Fu= nny, this all takes me =0Aback to the days when I *LUSTED* for an ART SGX..= .=A0 LOL=0A=0ABack when I could only afford one thing, those all-in-one uni= ts were the answer =0Afor me.=A0 Now, I prefer=A0separate components.=A0 I'= d rather be able to swap out =0Aparts of the chain for units that do one pa= rticular thing better than the combo =0Aunits do.=A0 For example, I love my= H8000FW, but I still use a PCM for the =0Averbs...=0A=0A[troll]Sadly, I th= ink the=A0typical audience wouldn't know the difference in sound =0Aquality= , so for live performance I think you can get away with just about any =0Ag= ear.[/troll]=A0 Discuss...=0A=0ABTW, it looks like the Axe-Fx uses convolut= ion, at least for its cabinet models, =0Aso instead of a cabinet IR, I wond= er if you could use an IR from=A0one of the =0ASpirit Canyon Audio collecti= ons or likesuchas...?=A0 Of course, SIR can do the =0Asame thing, and it's = *free*...=0A=0A>Fantastic. Do you happen to have an email list I could get = on to keep abreast =0A>of=A0any developments? And--I (almost) hesitate to a= sk--any idea of a timetable =0A>for availability?;)=0A=0AWell, it will be s= ometime this year at least.=A0 I don't have a separate email =0Alist.=A0 I = was planning to stick with using the Eventide forum...=0A=0A> Would it be p= ossible to have your program assemble virtual racks of the user's =0A>own m= aking?=0A=0AI'll look at some of those patches and see how the algorithms a= re put together.=A0 =0AIf the Harmonizer lets me access the rack algorithms= , then we should be able to =0Acustomize them...=0A=0ARegards,=0ADoug=0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 03:00:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08DAC183473; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fM8E0TRnW5L+JyzOJlGLedboqX8Lfqlg2QsWGixmF6k=; b=EIY1Iqo+YpG805Zh/lMtydUaBs/v3DDgehisJWts9dVccSGDssTu0067JRYDKL7J+b kjGKKEpsrR3kFhsnceoHnce4w/aVCeXkxcYdb5B7BYXG75+Kr7nqmoue/KFLAeCmyDMz i4Y1Cgswvs5Va1xGL4qeUbDc6mbbnpTljXvKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GfD0rjlqDW0Jf1iu5pr/nt2A4Vd0tDA5/R6K63ezfkO31xwn7pN6SqhNh291i7tbBC lW9gMba3Az6NBHXhKltDqN2q51HsKje0K++aTvLbzY7goV8YribBzJhWJImOyHMH02/V dmvotDBnneWHjEFwWbe0lbzAPrVJ9ZlDyd2C4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:00:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e84eaa1dced049ba86fb7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:00:37 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e84eaa1dced049ba86fb7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not even the Axe-Fx Ultra? I was afraid that could be an Eventide killer. - i'm not sure that such a critter exists. the axe-fx looks to me more like a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects. they have their own way of doing things over there in new jersey and there's a certain sound that i've yet to see anybody replicate. it's not just what the effects do but the way they do them. and as far as i can tell they're years ahead of anybody else, particularly with pitch shifting. Meanwhile, I think the Harmonizer(tm) team has shrunk quite a bit (Nick may be the only one left), so I'm not surprised that response is slow. - too bad. i don't even know what a data logger is...i have no idea what other things eventide does. i always imagined a bunch of music nerds building dope boxes but apparently it's a bit beyond that ; ) Sadly, I think the typical audience wouldn't know the difference in sound quality, so for live performance I think you can get away with just about any gear. - true, but it's not for them that i do what i do. mb-808 looks cool, btw. - jim --90e6ba6e84eaa1dced049ba86fb7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not even the Axe-Fx Ultra? I was afraid that could be an Eventide killer.
- i'm not sure that such a critter exists.=A0 the axe-fx looks to= me more like a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects.=A0 they have t= heir own way of doing things over there in new jersey and there's a cer= tain sound that i've yet to see anybody replicate.=A0 it's not just= what the effects do but the way they do them.=A0 and as far as i can tell = they're years ahead of anybody else, particularly with pitch shifting.<= br>
Meanwhile, I think the Harmonizer(tm) team has shrunk quite a bit (Nick= =20 may be the only one left), so I'm not surprised that response is slow. =

- too bad.=A0 i don't even know what a data logger is...i have = no idea what other things eventide does.=A0 i always imagined a bunch of mu= sic nerds building dope boxes but apparently it's a bit beyond that ; )=

Sadly, I think the=A0typical audience wouldn't know the difference = in sound
quality, so for live performance I think you can get away with just about a= ny
gear.

- true, but it's not for them that i do what i do.

= mb-808 looks cool, btw.

- jim


--90e6ba6e84eaa1dced049ba86fb7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 03:04:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34F71183477; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-289-913086866 Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:04:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110206214532.A5459183478@arsenic.violacea.com> <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <37537B41-4B03-4DFA-B8DA-EC969113D84C@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:04:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-289-913086866 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:44 PM, William Walker wrote: > you talking expression pedals or the knobs themselves? again I say = compression should be a subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping = turn up the input volume, turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 = oclock and bring the blend up to taste, treble up full, unless your = guitar is particularly bright. > Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go out on a limb here = and assume it was built in China, so the likely hood of a bad batch of = components potentially effecting an entire run of compressors (assuming = its the same basic compressor board in both pigtronix models) is not = only possible its quite high actually. now I feel really guilty for = having sung such high praises of this compressor. Yes I think its a = better sounding compressor than most on the market but this is very = discouraging to hear. The compressor part on mine sounds great. I suspect my initial issues = had more to do with over doing the compression, finding myself feeling = alienated/distanced from the sound coming out of the monitors, and = thinking that maybe it's just that I don't like compression. The grit = control is something I'm still deciding about. Mine is also the germanium model so I don't know how many components it = shares with Andy's. So, you can wait to feel guilty until mine develops hardware problems... = (and even then I won't blame you since the reviews were all quite = positive). Mark --Apple-Mail-289-913086866 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
you talking expression pedals or the knobs themselves? = again I say compression should be a subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded = pumping turn up the input volume, turn down the sustain to between 9 and = 10 oclock and bring the blend up to taste,  treble up full, unless = your guitar is particularly bright.
 Ok so this brings us = to the next issue, lets go out on a limb here and assume it was built in = China, so the likely hood of a bad batch of components  potentially = effecting an entire run of compressors (assuming its the same basic = compressor board in both pigtronix models) is not only possible its = quite high actually.  now I feel really guilty for having sung such = high praises of this compressor. Yes I think its a better sounding = compressor than most on the market but this is very discouraging to = hear.

The compressor part = on mine sounds great. I suspect my initial issues had more to do with = over doing the compression, finding myself feeling alienated/distanced = from the sound coming out of the monitors, and thinking that maybe it's = just that I don't like compression. The grit control is something I'm = still deciding about.

Mine is also the = germanium model so I don't know how many components it shares with = Andy's.

So, you can wait to feel guilty until = mine develops hardware problems... (and even then I won't blame you = since the reviews were all quite = positive).

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-289-913086866-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 03:18:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3C0183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsEGAHLzTk1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACXEY4fuwOFWgSEeoob X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,436,1291593600"; d="scan'208,217";a="101028946" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21-914109979 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 21:21:29 -0600 References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:18:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-21-914109979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > - i'm not sure that such a critter exists. the axe-fx looks to me > more like a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects. No, not at all. The effects in the Axe Ultra are every bit as good as the H8000--at least for guitar. As Doug said, the H8000 can almost certainly do more for studio processing, but as a guitar fx box, the Axe-Fx Ultra is good as Eventide's flagship, for less than half the price. I own an H8000. I owned an Axe-Fx Ultra, but sold it to help fund some other purchases. If you want a studio only box that can do everything, then the H8000 may be the way to go. But if you want the best fx for guitar + superior amp modeling, then the Axe Ultra is where it's at. > and as far as i can tell they're years ahead of anybody else, > particularly with pitch shifting. Fractal is right there with them. Line 6 isn't really *that* far behind. Jeff --Apple-Mail-21-914109979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

- i'm not sure that such a critter = exists.  the axe-fx looks to me more like a suped-up pod with some = eventide-ish effects. 

No, not at all. = The effects in the Axe Ultra are every bit as good as the H8000--at = least for guitar. As Doug said, the H8000 can almost certainly do more = for studio processing, but as a guitar fx box, the Axe-Fx Ultra is good = as Eventide's flagship, for less than half the price.  I own an = H8000. I owned an Axe-Fx Ultra, but sold it to help fund some other = purchases.

If you want a studio only box that = can do everything, then the H8000 may be the way to go. But if you want = the best fx for guitar + superior amp modeling, then the Axe Ultra is = where it's at.

  and = as far as i can tell they're years ahead of anybody else, particularly = with pitch shifting.

Fractal is = right there with them. Line 6 isn't really *that* far = behind. 

Jeff= --Apple-Mail-21-914109979-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 03:22:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F12183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0LRkTvyKnPUtwnJ7gL8PUaPOFIs/lg1hOdS5V433sMk=; b=kZ7cFjORhWbMy0joImWmRlwYOgcZAjfoO3ArbflVxTeCao/p5b21jjcHweR5nWr2zs LFm4HRzh+GC3MwtympEJFvuZZVN3TfS8FmEtba8a0ScKrc1O5+k1JKjAXfollqkG2DEW iBsekOxIz1IJHa0ZKy/BGsFLcv3Zo4K6bwHSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rw0p3VpeDMx5mU5fazmIpCcp9bBzo5kA3/75XYVSuXtnJQx00o0mTGsIt8dNUX7q+N 2AFCTw2MqKxPDOh7TadHguzcEliR1Y5o3EoA67Q+Oq3hRnMRIKZolB8jjw2aOfnlerIV 2aVYnS5VxscCh0rYvgqzCnY7jiIR7HgKlRvGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e84eadfaf4a049ba8bef2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 03:22:46 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e84eadfaf4a049ba8bef2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hmm...perhaps i shall take another look. i'm not really feeling amp modeling but if the effects are rad... thanks for the input/clarification. - jim On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > > - i'm not sure that such a critter exists. the axe-fx looks to me more > like a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects. > > > No, not at all. The effects in the Axe Ultra are every bit as good as the > H8000--at least for guitar. As Doug said, the H8000 can almost certainly do > more for studio processing, but as a guitar fx box, the Axe-Fx Ultra is good > as Eventide's flagship, for less than half the price. I own an H8000. I > owned an Axe-Fx Ultra, but sold it to help fund some other purchases. > > If you want a studio only box that can do everything, then the H8000 may be > the way to go. But if you want the best fx for guitar + superior amp > modeling, then the Axe Ultra is where it's at. > > and as far as i can tell they're years ahead of anybody else, > particularly with pitch shifting. > > > Fractal is right there with them. Line 6 isn't really *that* far behind. > > Jeff > --90e6ba6e84eadfaf4a049ba8bef2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmm...perhaps i shall take another look.=A0 i'm not really feeling amp = modeling but if the effects are rad...

thanks for the input/clarific= ation.

- jim

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 a= t 10:21 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> wrote:


- i'm not sure that such a critter exists.=A0 the axe-fx looks t= o me more like a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects.=A0

No, not at all. The effects in the Axe Ultra are every bi= t as good as the H8000--at least for guitar. As Doug said, the H8000 can al= most certainly do more for studio processing, but as a guitar fx box, the A= xe-Fx Ultra is good as Eventide's flagship, for less than half the pric= e. =A0I own an H8000. I owned an Axe-Fx Ultra, but sold it to help fund som= e other purchases.

If you want a studio only box that can do everything, t= hen the H8000 may be the way to go. But if you want the best fx for guitar = + superior amp modeling, then the Axe Ultra is where it's at.

=A0=A0and as far as i can tell they'= re years ahead of anybody else, particularly with pitch shifting.

Fractal is right there with them. Line 6 isn'= ;t really *that* far behind.=A0

Jeff

--90e6ba6e84eadfaf4a049ba8bef2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 05:48:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B09D0183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4OFUbY0/s5IIvAw3hiI+Ebyn57ngQNysACcY+lL96PU=; b=Eof3ok7t9oTt7tgfYSqN5PCKkRU9ECpnOGulZ13tuNKoaCT7ox5WuiHeylbDiJ+ENf PZjZMOY9UEbV3Zu3XTq+EMepLSIyp9YzSbxOLmgnKTRnv6MHMSM6AI6Rb8XbcXwUVuft W2MKaO86dlG+PTRebC80lgVSxsZ05cZhQ9dhU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=viO/cXgW8kstSF1dk6V6hRCRWM524kVYpn/UElQN4cNRaxjZ5yVcwpZbDsrlLT8822 LsoghN11XFapmqxv1uIokevUgNkJDPSG6NEwhTpwXd5z2RwliFDOrTIZhdahCP2EAdah 0atKSZorV2IZZz7WSnfud83yqiMwhQvKKEPAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 00:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ad1dbf15c1049baac6dd Resent-Message-ID: <7hStPD.A.nm.ae4TNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 05:48:10 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ad1dbf15c1049baac6dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd really nice sir. Love the discovery of another member looping acoustically. Nice touch and nice arrangement/improv. Jim On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Thanks mi amigo :) > My money is on you. You got the golden vocal chords! The sky's the limit > with those. > On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > > > nice as always my amigo! > > how long you been playing man? do i have any hopes?._)) > > > > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054ad1dbf15c1049baac6dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd really nice sir. =A0Love the discovery of another member looping acous= tically. =A0Nice touch and nice arrangement/improv.

Jim<= br>
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Todd Matt= hews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks mi amigo :)
My money is on you. You got the golden vocal chords! The sky's the limi= t with those.
On Feb 6, 2011, at 6:50 AM, Louie Angulo = wrote:

> nice as always my amigo!
> how long you been playing man? do i have any hopes?._))








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From Bro= oklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & = Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF In= ternational.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
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= --_1284524d-c6c5-4bac-b09f-740e0f080809_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 11:05:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02A5C183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f7N/HFd7p5PKMLRUEcfojKdUrtr6EkJti9qKbGdsgEg=; b=Gr2UowU/QtTGryKIC2zelZ1rIpw9jloyEnDxZd1DVzcpG5pW3A23Bca70dEupQEOBK 7FohZGlCpivWjDBxjSmSlqQ/B/18H2fILVuMuDowhc7ZnOiFfDlNTl839UuRxKrF/jUT lUyceMGsVwamnvyS9hRMELqi6gox22+TfP1nU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XjxB0KZtHa6OQr+u9SaX2I4SinAHn7U+y70B1Jir72YWi5HAKDrPlRCr3Su5Rlt323 QKC5L4hfFWcFt3EN8IYqQbJeWxyeAkNpsB0RG8krba95P0RHGK2wa7hCi5vx9w83d5FF 9viBLJ2raqlXcdn+EfhNeTrphRng8BYXPa1I4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:05:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: CDM covers Boomerang III From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Link to article: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/boomerang-iii-is-the-live-looper-box-texas-made-great-video-tutorials/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content=Bloglines Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 12:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CDB6183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I1afZ/x18GoGvAtZ4v7ukEEeMd0bwNntWc2n/YMrvNU=; b=XPff3EZsWaAk8TgSwWW0YWFtY3UW1RTVjhiGSlTVGv758us+jKc97umzHduVtd7moE xC/yiIYmUpiBnpMHm6YR3O50HuA4x2MisVZ0SA7APdRpbgpNoomN79ataALTDWrtVSRP u/hjA58NZzTNlZmCg0peCUE6LnVhYXeYrF/OY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Yb2qw7ujzdkzWAYolBKlRr7tynHrTE4/Z6ix54UJEH+3K9Pss1ChXU1gN888ScjJeB NjZIWxXcYJjyhWLuIxiloXzOEpUVPfzU0dUuxErNo99DFL0wanhjlnEO1ccmrAUyberh h0z3Mkc/GdSCKPb3EYGJlhoOJ25Ht94sHFn1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364edee83f6c40049bb03ae1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:18:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016364edee83f6c40049bb03ae1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i owned an eclipse and i now have an axefx ultra. to say that it's "a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects." is a mistake. have you listened to the clips on the fractalaudio website? no, it's not a competitor for the 8000, but it stacks up well against the eclipse and it ten times easier to program with the software editor. "they have their own way of doing things over there in new jersey and there's a certain sound that i've yet to see anybody replicate". this is true. the eclipse does have a certain sound which the axefx doesn't replicate, but the axefx is quite neutral and is very capable of duplicating a lot of the signature eventide sounds. as for the amp modeling side...i used tube amps for over 20 years and my last rig used a mesa triaxis with the 20/20, 2:fifty and 2:90 poweramps. the axefx is a different paradigm, for sure, and some guys never fully trust it (all the modelers we've had in the past have been pretty lame, so it's not surprising), but again...listen to the clips and i can tell you...yes, it FEELS like a tube amp (well...70 tube amps, actually) sim On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:22 AM, james fowler wrote: > hmm...perhaps i shall take another look. i'm not really feeling amp > modeling but if the effects are rad... > > --0016364edee83f6c40049bb03ae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i owned an eclipse and i now have an axefx ultra. to say that it's &quo= t;a suped-up pod with some eventide-ish=20 effects." is a mistake. have you listened to the clips on the fractala= udio website? no, it's not a competitor for the 8000, but it stacks up = well against the eclipse and it ten times easier to program with the softwa= re editor.

"they have their own way of doing things over there in new=20 jersey and there's a certain sound that i've yet to see anybody=20 replicate". this is true. the eclipse does have a certain sound which = the axefx doesn't replicate, but the axefx is quite neutral and is very= capable of duplicating a lot of the signature eventide sounds.

as for the amp modeling side...i used tube amps for over 20 years and my la= st rig used a mesa triaxis with the 20/20, 2:fifty and 2:90 poweramps. the = axefx is a different paradigm, for sure, and some guys never fully trust it= (all the modelers we've had in the past have been pretty lame, so it&#= 39;s not surprising), but again...listen to the clips and i can tell you...= yes, it FEELS like a tube amp (well...70 tube amps, actually)

sim

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:22 AM, j= ames fowler <tw= ostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0
hmm...perhaps i shall take another look.=A0 i'm not really feeling amp = modeling but if the effects are rad...

--0016364edee83f6c40049bb03ae1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 12:33:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 424B2183474; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yQ+jmuhgTZzmZ/hTUj7kUlIDMn3BzNrR7NWYlqsdiVI=; b=SzgqwHP1h6DDms3eyc2SS6mGKplAbmksEkyxgNFNIcRctReGwKuHAn+5tfNaki7YqH jWkcGwiCb+2i4RFp4uFchtxan3uCYdIFd4jtm42ZbLy7Is3lAxqwiR7oJkX/C3j6CbAu GIlTxV+FTrGzT099gw2RBgxTXeMfm8h6Wfbok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iGtugrjjjbg5vokLR3CYwYJ/RSMqGBgMzmR9scJOnX9TOhYs73mGGgNgVisunNPdd1 lHePg4I0efvZUeBeFvrw+0KUBV+d98I00bYs0TT5s58Jg07ayyVyOnkf/E1zeSpzaMgb jrRpPRX/QGnIPlGbMUYLQWWHU+DlsHuImEvrI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:33:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:33:22 +0000 (UTC) I have found this thread very interesting, especially the input the Axe FX Ultra that I have not gotten to play with yet. In fact it was playing with an Eventide Eclipse for a while (together with the FireworX) that convinced me to concentrate on customizing my own modular system on a laptop with a good audio interface. TC Electronics and Eventide have a bit different approaches to effect sound patch design and I learned a lot by studying them. Of course those brands use different solutions for filters etc and that makes them sound a little different, but to me the real clue is not which brand is stamped on the front plate but rather the chosen approach in signal routing. If you check out what is happening inside the box you can pretty much replicate most patches in a modular system, given you assemble the modules needed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 13:02:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6B3B183474; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hv9SQcrM+6OigaxLHjw9pP+RUWiApZ50wgUfcTlI6Iw=; b=D9wTo4GZDMZUoNDs88BW6Jq33D5lz7Kf7fvRK1EXnMNfzSBtt3PoiejbjVYxbFVQ+c ZmVVegSnwNtVlUg6DNI36qkZBzSMJ9HVBI5HOBfp/sjEqccoBJBCLeBM/cSniHC8NZwV OLuZJgkKHPJBb87PJSKim7qY6ntouwVWo5k2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gmLfjpqLGgS01HDeK/zO3igVibz4P9CAffywjSK4QKXbdySqp2QsImfWW4ULCg/7GI a3rtfBiUrBWMJ7D9fOQffTZrxWnffTPJ4zPiw/ht3LWkiUz3+Qy4/SgR08VRL9V2R2U3 R0umIpeIbpRbZ1TXC8mP4KCYePq5DRP7v4q/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:02:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Hey Simeon,funny i was just checking out your patches this morning very nice man! But i cant believe it doesnt have a Univibe;-( a few questions: hows is the octaver to play bass lines? do the harmonizers track well? id also be interested in the regeneration sound quality of the delays,none of them are labeled as analog or vintage,is it possible to repilcate them? is it worth paying the difference from the Ultra Axe FX from the standard? is mainly the vocooders and the looper correct? it would be possible as well to route the EDP through its effects loop and record all its sounds thus avoiding x tra mixers,no? how do you route your LP1? is an atomic amp a must or does it sound just as convincing through a full range P.A.? thanx man cheers Luis On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i owned an eclipse and i now have an axefx ultra. to say that it's "a > suped-up pod with some eventide-ish effects." is a mistake. have you > listened to the clips on the fractalaudio website? no, it's not a competi= tor > for the 8000, but it stacks up well against the eclipse and it ten times > easier to program with the software editor. > > "they have their own way of doing things over there in new jersey and > there's a certain sound that i've yet to see anybody replicate". this is > true. the eclipse does have a certain sound which the axefx doesn't > replicate, but the axefx is quite neutral and is very capable of duplicat= ing > a lot of the signature eventide sounds. > > as for the amp modeling side...i used tube amps for over 20 years and my > last rig used a mesa triaxis with the 20/20, 2:fifty and 2:90 poweramps. = the > axefx is a different paradigm, for sure, and some guys never fully trust = it > (all the modelers we've had in the past have been pretty lame, so it's no= t > surprising), but again...listen to the clips and i can tell you...yes, it > FEELS like a tube amp (well...70 tube amps, actually) > > sim > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:22 AM, james fowler wrote: > >> >> hmm...perhaps i shall take another look.=A0 i'm not really feeling amp >> modeling but if the effects are rad... >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 13:40:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 063EB183474; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7uHrIBQYpfLjuVEGWU7yNkarOUR/2L9NsnLzquDkrB0=; b=b5ye3l87hlqyWMKioPWTVAtcMeRk/NXv68nCkGD1SDyYUsWshhji0haWSEaegx60hV ozfDgkgTovKaAw6l3pIxNC21O1Cm4ItB52NmlJSfHwzL3vsos0zRWavkvJ1fKuUTSo24 ncZOUtHHp+eR5n4/Kh3pCibM1bex/RdyQ0SpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=X+G7UUUwu4enALpdkiHvPm92advqJbNqZJY8GJdEOxvxUo79sCdk6r9e1CwaJ3PYJN H8FFwlBTZ2dTSTj7OvfFHvySQ/QHfrJ0Ko2EA3YVtqO2Xi5iJjPBfSMsKtF5nw/5kTAe yDp2Fossn6Kj3IiXa23U0lFTbYafoul5hnzcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:40:15 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cb462f59a4049bb15fb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:40:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cb462f59a4049bb15fb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hey Simeon,funny i was just checking out your patches this morning > very nice man! > thank you! > But i cant believe it doesnt have a Univibe;-( > yes, it does > a few questions: > hows is the octaver to play bass lines? good > do the harmonizers track well? > yes, very well. on single notes and chords. listen to the C Baritone clip to hear a regular guitar shifted down to C > id also be interested in the regeneration sound quality of the > delays,none of them are labeled as analog or vintage,is it possible to > repilcate them? > yes, by using a combination of delay, tape drive and filters. the regular mono and stereo delays have many parameters to replicate tape style delays also > is it worth paying the difference from the Ultra Axe FX from the > standard? in my opinion, yes > is mainly the vocooders and the looper correct? > no, the ultra has more memory, so you can run more fx at once and it also has a synth and many other fx. scroll down a bit here for the comparison - http://axefxwiki.guitarlogic.org/index.php?title=Axe-Fx_Wiki_Manual#Additional_Ultra_features > it would be possible as well to route the EDP through its effects > loop and record all its sounds thus avoiding x tra mixers,no? > yes, this is possible, but in my experience there is a very small audio dropout when changing patches on the axefx, which is noticeable when looping pads etc, so not advisable > how do you route your LP1? > i no longer have an lp-1. i now use a macbook running mobius hosted in bidule. i run the main outs of the axefx into the audio interface and monitor directly > is an atomic amp a must or does it sound just as convincing through a > full range P.A.? > that is a matter of opinion, but it sounds great to me through my tannoy reveals and through our 1k stereo pa. many people use full range monitors from QSC and FBT etc and get excellent results > thanx man > cheers > Luis > you're welcome sim --0016e644cb462f59a4049bb15fb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Louie An= gulo <l= ouie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Simeon,funny i was just checking out your patches this morning
very nice man!

thank you!
=A0
But i cant believe it doesnt have a Univibe;-(

yes= , it does
=A0
a few questions:
hows is the octaver to play bass lines?

good
=A0
do the harmon= izers track well?

yes, very well. on single notes and chords. listen to= the C Baritone clip to hear a regular guitar shifted down to C
=A0
id also be interested in the regeneration sound quality of the
delays,none of them are labeled as analog or vintage,is it possible to
repilcate them?

yes, by using a combination of del= ay, tape drive and filters. the regular mono and stereo delays have many pa= rameters to replicate tape style delays also
=A0
is it worth paying the difference from the Ultra Axe FX =A0from the
standard?

in my opinion, yes
=A0
is mainly the vocooders and t= he looper correct?

no, the ultra has more memory, so you can run more fx= at once and it also has a synth and many other fx. scroll down a bit here = for the comparison - http://axefxwiki.guit= arlogic.org/index.php?title=3DAxe-Fx_Wiki_Manual#Additional_Ultra_features<= /a>
=A0
it would be possible as well to route the =A0EDP through its effects
loop and record all its sounds thus avoiding x tra mixers,no?

yes, this is possible, but in my experience there is a very sma= ll audio dropout when changing patches on the axefx, which is noticeable wh= en looping pads etc, so not advisable
=A0
how do you route your LP1?

i no longer have an lp-= 1. i now use a macbook running mobius hosted in bidule. i run the main outs= of the axefx into the audio interface and monitor directly
=A0
is an atomic amp a must or does it sound just as convincing through a
full range P.A.?

that is a matter of opinion, but = it sounds great to me through my tannoy reveals and through our 1k stereo p= a. many people use full range monitors from QSC and FBT etc and get excelle= nt results
=A0
thanx man
cheers
Luis

you're welcome

sim
--0016e644cb462f59a4049bb15fb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 13:55:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5DAC183473; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ARuEnStytstrce8BXQqev3KT2Ag081v77zyMpR/9yhI=; b=QTy5GAeQz/oJkgadKek2xcR6JRmM8S/7ylzFg/WWTMZg+9Qy1K1eDf9r78MBLdHJlK ss7a50pp+DQAssT5IUzs0Lk6JD1w9PlLzXSR/mAP6153aIsSPWjJdRBhc+GPXkytuJzN AxnOyldL+0kNNezpfXugA3qVjP1bQJL6QPVPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MnB2ns5m3JRR8/T4BAgOVR0kQL4nekpjks6PSaIfFIvR4fwGjySSwJNEVDCbl9I5UT h+0swklkKXWtNs0cehsl6S5TUMloIsnYOfP7MtClSk+aiZs33b2F5GYPAFsZc7DZ1SD6 fVgTWf67LHG1HOKxK8NcbOXHVPVfxdCyQP4V4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2cEALB.A.YoD.Gn_TNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:55:19 +0000 (UTC) >> >> But i cant believe it doesnt have a Univibe;-( > > yes, it does Oh sorry,is under phaser i see it now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:08:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E5D183474; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 568271590/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.22.210/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.22.210 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAGOZT01YbRbS/2dsb2JhbAAM4CKFWgSPCQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,438,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="568271590" Message-ID: <4D500AD4.4050503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 15:08:04 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT References: <20110206214532.A5459183478@arsenic.violacea.com> <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:08:13 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > andy says >> I got the Pigtronix Philosopher King, and I'm a bit unsure about it. >> (it's the same compressor as the PT, but adds Attack/Decay/trem) > > Do tell, so is it a true ADSR and do the expression pedal ports do > anything at all? ADSR Its possible that when you play a note it first swells in (Attack), then it can Decay as quick as yo like down to a level set by Hold. So it's officially an ADS The release part only works when you mute the strings, and gets the ADS ready to do it's thing again. Release isn't a knob, it's an LED that shines bright blue when the Attack part is primed and ready to go... ...quite useful in getting used to the response. Really I'd call that "Reset", there's no way to vary the Release time, ...and of course in normal use there's no need. The Attack and Decay parts, called Swell and Fade are individually switch-able, so you can have A without the DS or DS without A. There's a Sensitivity control that governs how quickly the reset happens. Not sure exactly how that works, for me I just put it up full for the quickest response. There's extra goodies to be had when the AutoReset switch is engaged, and the Fade is switched on. This turns the PK into a triggered tremolo. With Swell(=Attack) turned off the Fade control works as a speed for a sharp stutter trem ( Saw Tooth). The first "trem" happens triggered, then the repeats come regularly until your note fades out, when they briefly slow down before stopping. With "Swell" also engaged the trem is a repeat of the AD cycle. Swell and Fade knobe vary shape and speed. When using tremolo, the Hold knob functions as a Depth control. Here's what the expression pedals do 1) CV in. Disables the ADS part and works as a swell pedal when compressor is switched on. Very nice. Fade switch adds a slight boost to the signal when engaged (intentional??). Feeding in a standard control voltage (moog) does nothing. 2) Swell in. Controls swell(=Attack) rate. (and tremolo speed if Auto-Reset and Fade are engaged) 3) Fade in . Controls fade rate. (and tremolo speed if Auto-Reset and Fade are engaged) CV Out... manual says its 2...12V so not compatible with any known standard. Wouldn't risk sending it to a 9V pedal. Couldn't get it to do anything much useful, as everything I have with CV in expects 0-5V. Probably only works with other Pigtronix stuff. Of course, if you hit Bypass the triggering stops working, ...so the CV out then becomes useless. (all round, a but of a Non-Feature) Trigger In. Yup, that works, sent it an LFO voltage from a Moogerfooger. It won't re-trigger all that fast though (same as with the guitar input), I'm going to write to Pigtronix about that to ask if a mod is possible. Running an LFO into it in combination with the PK Auto-Reset produces a nice compound 'galloping' rhythm with a fast Auto-reset being 'gated' by the CV input. I found a problem with trigger in, if the audio input is continuous and above threshold it stops the reset from happening, so no triggering. (will ask Pigtronix about this, could be a fault) > >> A couple of time the sound dripped out completely, or went quiet and >> distorted, > that sounds like that wimpy solderless connector thing happening on the > board Right...well *that* can be dealt with. Actually a soldered connection from a component mounted on the case can also be a weak point, as this can lead to breaks in the copper tracks. ..,but agreed, while it may be intended as an improvement, and probably costs more, the solderless connectors seems to be a bad idea. > > >Also, there's a nasty click when the pedal is engaged. > > thats not good yep, it's a consistent high pitched click, annoying if if gets into a loop. > >> To me, the controls don't really seem to make the compressor >> controllable in any way. >> Doesn't seem possible to completely eradicate the 'phut' and the beginning >> of the note, especially finger picking low notes. >> ...but then I've been a "no compression" guy for a number of decades now. > > you talking expression pedals or the knobs themselves? the regular knobs. > again I say > compression should be a subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping > turn up the input volume, turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 > oclock and bring the blend up to taste, treble up full, unless your > guitar is particularly bright. right...that sounds good :-) thankyou I found that when using excessive compression it's better to use the Attack/Swell as a noise gate, to kill off the hum between notes (this being the regular guitar hum that's amplified, not a fault of the PK) > Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go out on a limb here and > assume it was built in China, so the likely hood of a bad batch of > components potentially effecting an entire run of compressors (assuming > its the same basic compressor board in both pigtronix models) is not > only possible its quite high actually. ok, it's screwdriver time. The King has only one circuit board, so it's not the same comp board as the PK. (could still be the same cheap component batch of course). It actually look very well made. Every chip is in a socket, and the solderless connector thing does look like a way to avoid stressing the circuit board (a pity it's problematic.) The components are not surface mount. > now I feel really guilty for > having sung such high praises of this compressor. Please don't. My hum problem goes away when playing through gear connected to the mains, so I guess it's a bad earth via the supplied psu. If those solderless connectors play up...they will be eliminated :-) I liked the Treble control a lot. ..and thought the dreaded Grit control sounded ok with the treble right down. I like the way that the grit (unlike the tone)is only on the compressed part of the signal and can be blended out to create that clean amp alongside the dirty amp sound. Probably the PK is a keeper, I'm going to do a comparison with a Wampler Ego unit that a friend lent me. (it has an attack control for the compressor) > Yes I think its a > better sounding compressor than most on the market but this is very > discouraging to hear. I've really enjoyed checking it out, and having some guidance in tone law from a master. many thanks andy > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:12:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF87183479; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=j041ih87OwUA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=yywtqS_FYYBalll_7PcA:9 a=CyUjsVD0L-5hoBAzwM_gICnLN0kA:4 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=7Rp9ip9G094A:10 Message-Id: <23C00CDC-8ABA-48FC-9CD2-837BFAAA421A@charter.net> From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:12:28 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) This is very, very nice. I'll be ordering one soon too. On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi, > I'm pleased to announce that the 2nd Premonition Factory release. =93The= > sense of time=94 ... > > More info and a preview on > = http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/sense-of-time-pre-order-now-availab= le > > Thanks, and enjoy the music :) > > --=20 > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F2A183478; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y7YO6B1Kdfj03grTSMVz4HneYOYr4j3Q0u/IIVeuwdA=; b=jdTcjMohkbPE7racOp02WD4ChSgz15xhx6dx6ATJOLKnD38064IcJsqZFQP71FL5hc QP2jvNGvWv2KvfC/8ZFRRRYewGnXhSVU9ZOc9vGhlJkCCZszlwgF1bkPanNVR6R+QH18 YL5Gf2L8F0ZXitVEP//kKuFPZqb+EdA78HJnM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G/DTzd1TzyPicdL4Z/4blOE6+2mjyBhasSvJza2LDuFsbcpFPlh2HXB7Z8mRsha/6r uCtGaH/RIFjdrMIT2yQZODKJB4oMpTHCn1HJfSi+giPPKKPExxWI1tAaOAzq++0WUTf0 USlI1J9s7myPgU3WkSgakrKsyp6nk1ZmKkzjc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:31:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: on-line sales scam From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283b7a92b5e5049bb2eb21 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:31:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636283b7a92b5e5049bb2eb21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into what I think might be a scam. Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. Doc Rossi --001636283b7a92b5e5049bb2eb21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run = into what I think might be a scam.

Three potential buyer= s have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me either Traveler's= checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They then want me to se= nd the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their shipping agent, who = will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little wei= rd to me.

Doc Rossi
--001636283b7a92b5e5049bb2eb21-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:35:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D652B183476; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=heEWDoedSOFz9E33JtP6P8fCpIukHWnys6ad66jQA+8=; b=G16tscnOCm+hdwLGwRgw+aAL1MjzmDAHbBLK9zIQ77Xm0ifRbn1eHD45IUybMMjY6e j3Z+SEyyPFK5huFHehdql3Ov0H3z8Yjv3LNRaHCY12Lyalg1bkR58jgPMgn/iBg3E/CJ 3Lt4zqmEjv8CbQ29WbiBW8hV33zPUOhNNjT9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ah3nDMYS1TKkWy+aLTbCwojMjMkkDpVVnicpUFtUa+Aca4Z9Ed7blweFoKXMS9udbz WcyVvmUCAyKWIKoRcxtsZJKcifhXMzqkenwFE4Nww51IL1u7x2jihoyLOCBCaAHD7Ifh 9h+XJMZTrukfsQsldSyimTqAYJeJusHFWKBIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6154b62110b2049bb2fbda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:35:27 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6154b62110b2049bb2fbda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam. You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bounce. 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into > what I think might be a scam. > > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me > either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They > then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their > shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. > > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > > Doc Rossi > -- -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --90e6ba6154b62110b2049bb2fbda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's defin= itely a scam.
You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bo= unce.

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2011/2/7 Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>
I've got a vintage Fender am= p listed for sale on-line and I've run into what I think might be a sca= m.=20

Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking pric= e. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to = their shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc Rossi



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--90e6ba6154b62110b2049bb2fbda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B47F18347C; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 417913.93254.bm@omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=vpm8T2tv45rDkHH91N7pGAoF8QtX9PaAk55D/SyIqiTOUsya1NejXWEf4iaaZM5gUXx+2JRLztVyg88vXXNfYC1aYmS7BYNgLkcnl9QmWpaQmkF6bJkHOU5U77c/acNaYnIudvH4R0Fn3s60P+V1BunQp94apdzm445j0qHtRv0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297093029; bh=vhNSx4BJ1JRh0rF0tpgntJIQHzJpJi0IzCNq0QITSko=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n8Ex36AEQikTuNNf2mQiwzxZjrnDbU3tbn5l5XLGVapnkiFdQ3cb2BxqXu6bpFVSVk8vIrGIofwfaG9v7j4aKph+t9vjBwv/KwJdNnPrz05bBha87HvbQjRf7Bd5HNqPEmoaJQKr6Amx7VQMqbHyX+/0ZYG08nUDFbH3esYONJs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: ZDatCUAVM1n7OEnmdqLDt4Hu9cAo0152G3.gsvIO.k1V8QV CP51uofefInjKoDAHub7FCVzL48STuG8KEBGWMkc2TLwm7ad7uQsZUhakshp _EPsNN2RSIwL5tLWqjoCR4nU6m6W.kOdCH6Fd71JzYmvxRuuKcbOn3gVWX7d U3m6qsrJ6tJpE4ix1teVnfRZ9X53_iibqk42y3y7GAxefv81VxynbnS3naTl 2AtYbmolQFYn5glvXZwsqvr8LFJxm8wtozf7H7aoa7ilgsSNo.fFOipBNT6D rS71DDtra2uKaujEv X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-958244680 Message-Id: <076E8E5F-869E-42D5-A0BF-0A14985062DE@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:04 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9INGoD.A.XtH.mGBUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-958244680 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed very dodgy Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 7 Feb 2011, at 15:35, Johannes Korn wrote: > It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a > scam. > You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will > bounce. > > > 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run > into what I think might be a scam. > > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to > send me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the > asking price. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, > minus charges, to their shipping agent, who will then come and pick > up the amp. > > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > > Doc Rossi > > > > -- > -- > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > www.myspace.com/nashorn > --Apple-Mail-4-958244680 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII very dodgy

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 7 Feb 2011, = at 15:35, Johannes Korn wrote:

It = hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a = scam.
You send them the remainder of the money, and then = their check will bounce.

 
2011/2/7 Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>
=
I've got a vintage = Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into what I think might = be a scam.

Three potential buyers have contacted me = about it, each wanting to send me either Traveler's checks or a bank = check for twice the asking price. They then want me to send the = remainder of the money, minus charges, to their shipping agent, who will = then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run = into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.
=

Doc = Rossi



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= --Apple-Mail-4-958244680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:38:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44D39183485; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+qpwicEjsnqtkqgjDzauNOQvCM+vXlhI4CuNizvlXDc=; b=LwLr6zwZEeZ1SQ26IePCSQAYUj8aqxfZdwlWcci7yqiFah+0mxEArnMvuwx017NGqp kRFq2tXmHvLbB39n9BWB+Pj49qCF3CIjXiPWwhJ8ghBYIMZ9n9cJ88Bu931d3AA9MAHO MxJlnYs+k/ahHwIJdYjXdrgIUjiPkWtUpeeFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fsm84KLWQchziJRV9Nj/6LhYAZKRcmcFc8PMHb9m11HcHKjBHF1RjDPOyzJE7ff3Rb j0p9SgR92sx9NKcSyOaV4Fo6Zv5ufFAZ1qeO5XDjLn4sFy57pr/7LJsV8KVUGPt3Jb3I yK7d2Qz5KBES1JPCPw01LrJM9NdzghmYVoIdI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:37:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) That's a classic scam: http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Johannes Korn wrote: > It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam. > You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bounce. > > 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi >> >> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into >> what I think might be a scam. >> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me >> either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They >> then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their >> shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. >> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. >> Doc Rossi > > > -- > -- > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > www.myspace.com/nashorn > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:43:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6EAD183491; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pfnwpoEO1rWM52KjKAUWWpY7ktIBkld+KNJomfrOubI=; b=Gklz0fxE2tDUOHfEbsBPE56brrU2CMW+C8JKCOLSJ6Pepfe6QRZkT76/kUcMCGM23z uVYdTs2qiwL3bmEkq8oT3XQhhds1k5og5nKe4iRJU46ns5xw8hoNuZMKP6whYbK9ummq gRr1zDHyXO08kFi9ZpP7BCJ5PyLQcwVT8+3vg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c7DZFwwJ5jvPws05b5kqc6qM+VMkPc1Ro1AFpxwiHRw1vtqzVfHb1Tws2SkKwcKy58 5wpAPVyozmd71XfH7WCeV2BZkobPX3G2rGDo7qnQbkvzkKfHulPZfStgcaJw/isrVGOJ FG32QtOETSX+/xcUyoJ7PuWCyT+bq/KJF6LVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:43:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369fa2b75b6e2b049bb3178b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:43:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016369fa2b75b6e2b049bb3178b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very interesting link - thanks. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Art Simon wrote: > That's a classic scam: > http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Johannes Korn > wrote: > > It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam. > > You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will > bounce. > > > > 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi > >> > >> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into > >> what I think might be a scam. > >> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send > me > >> either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. > They > >> then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their > >> shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. > >> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > >> Doc Rossi > > > > > > -- > > -- > > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > > www.myspace.com/nashorn > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --0016369fa2b75b6e2b049bb3178b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very interesting link - thanks.

On Mon, F= eb 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
That's a classic scam:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Johannes Korn
<jenko.nashorn@googlemai= l.com> wrote:
> It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's defin= itely a scam.
> You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bo= unce.
>
> 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi <docitter= n@gmail.com>
>>
>> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I= 9;ve run into
>> what I think might be a scam.
>> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to= send me
>> either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking = price. They
>> then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to= their
>> shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.
>> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. >> Doc Rossi
>
>
> --
> --
> jenko.nashorn@googlema= il.com
> www.myspa= ce.com/nashorn
>



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Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon


--0016369fa2b75b6e2b049bb3178b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:52:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D951183496; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thread-Topic: OT: on-line sales scam Thread-Index: AcvG3uIMXc7U69JPRXCGUJ3rVPHWmw== In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:51:01 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2011 15:52:05.0568 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7FB6C00:01CBC6DE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) What is the amp? On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "Doc Rossi" wrote: > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into wh= at I think might be a scam. >=20 > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me= either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They t= hen want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their ship= ping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. >=20 > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. >=20 > Doc Rossi From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 15:54:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F89F183499; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_504928c3-da12-4ea7-9970-2756e96342fc_" X-Originating-IP: [212.219.56.214] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: on-line sales scam Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:54:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2011 15:54:49.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[597C0DE0:01CBC6DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:54:51 +0000 (UTC) --_504928c3-da12-4ea7-9970-2756e96342fc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's happened to me - just tell the bastards where to get off.. Apparently the police can do nothing.. G =20 > Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 07:37:57 -0800 > Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam > From: simart@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > That's a classic scam: > http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp >=20 > On Mon=2C Feb 7=2C 2011 at 7:35 AM=2C Johannes Korn > wrote: > > It hasn't happened to me=2C but I've heard of it. It's definitely a sca= m. > > You send them the remainder of the money=2C and then their check will b= ounce. > > > > 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi > >> > >> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run int= o > >> what I think might be a scam. > >> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it=2C each wanting to s= end me > >> either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. T= hey > >> then want me to send the remainder of the money=2C minus charges=2C to= their > >> shipping agent=2C who will then come and pick up the amp. > >> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > >> Doc Rossi > > > > > > -- > > -- > > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > > www.myspace.com/nashorn > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon >=20 = --_504928c3-da12-4ea7-9970-2756e96342fc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's happened to me - just tell the bastards where to get off..
Apparently the police can do nothing..
G
 =3B
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 07:37:57 -0800
>=3B Subject: Re: OT: on= -line sales scam
>=3B From: simart@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B That's a classic scam:
>= =3B http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp
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>=3B On M= on=2C Feb 7=2C 2011 at 7:35 AM=2C Johannes Korn
>=3B <=3Bjenko.nasho= rn@googlemail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B It hasn't happened to me=2C= but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam.
>=3B >=3B You send th= em the remainder of the money=2C and then their check will bounce.
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>=3B >=3B 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi <=3Bdocittern@gmail.com>= =3B
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>=3B >=3B>=3B ei= ther Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They
= >=3B >=3B>=3B then want me to send the remainder of the money=2C minu= s charges=2C to their
>=3B >=3B>=3B shipping agent=2C who will the= n come and pick up the amp.
>=3B >=3B>=3B Has anyone run into this= before? It sounds a little weird to me.
>=3B >=3B>=3B Doc Rossi>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
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= --_504928c3-da12-4ea7-9970-2756e96342fc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 16:00:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEA6618347C; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eQ2OatPmJXlJSuEUiMWpXZ77h1P0eTAcddjqYtLm3AA=; b=eRADPFg/ViBVpi1wG/lqQrXQP1gwEXfNmJxC5S5JSkuFj0opJ/uYCHlv8i08RDCVP4 ZH9C3wM40jau3Hxc3pRK4S9PXj+3/wu26H/VqsxXlCQGnO33CTvLddICt6F4458oPHEw 6C6MblLY9ai6d/EjsPUKGVxUQPHF2OTS1fKog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hI5JntTL2AW9C65H48WcoKcJdxIuQbC4V+pSOS1EpqmYYzwJcprEJ6Pcm5ZxFtDGR7 hxkdTfX4aT+eEHiBBcJZbHVrgBF8eUklCT43E9bN4rhVpXVDB2OCU9+m7cbkrl6Eq3BU I7MPFjWMjJsXghpPOd7NggaMkH1uOGwlcZGM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:00:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f923469c1e90049bb3544b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:00:28 +0000 (UTC) --001485f923469c1e90049bb3544b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1955 Fender Deluxe On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > What is the amp? > > > > On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "Doc Rossi" wrote: > > > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into > what I think might be a scam. > > > > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send > me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They > then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their > shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. > > > > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > > > > Doc Rossi > > --001485f923469c1e90049bb3544b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1955 Fender Deluxe

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at= 4:51 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
What is the amp?



On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "Doc Rossi" <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've= run into what I think might be a scam.
>
> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking pric= e. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to = their shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.
>
> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.
>
> Doc Rossi


--001485f923469c1e90049bb3544b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 16:15:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 665D9183483; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=55LY8OOmn6ndnOpG7pRT4xx8xHM4fVkxAN3Bzl9BDwI=; b=Net4AeU4b3FrSgS3gwLZYJmSeLwiLGp5zt9uxJ6I7DHsluMLE6SNzz2Is8kUPpFXfa VmEgz9aPCpEVK0+l/F6nrLIThC7BQHL/GJvXDmx6LRPu89QQigcOFeuvVxrcGJP+jklk +0O6veqro+poWVHSuUwxoN98fpk7F9Ehk+1kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R3HQQXNn2COGGItRUT9ok/g0wuOmfGXX/3YOW2Wbgwte5cDu+6nx4pHjf7wD8Mqgr3 ATjYEWljRkD/Nm6VGUTX8wkAewpVJQvMM+flyn/N63cKSYRAWhFf5piHUvrmrZERmzsW ITjMOUR/INJQs9ebZdnJjGJNBuZCx/xk4i/u0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:15:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6435390dbfc5f049bb3890a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:15:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6435390dbfc5f049bb3890a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think all three of these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi wrote: > 1955 Fender Deluxe > > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > >> What is the amp? >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "Doc Rossi" wrote: >> >> > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into >> what I think might be a scam. >> > >> > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send >> me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They >> then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their >> shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. >> > >> > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. >> > >> > Doc Rossi >> >> > --0016e6435390dbfc5f049bb3890a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think all three of these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com= > wrote:
1955 Fender Deluxe


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:51 PM,= Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
What is the amp?



On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:31 AM, "Doc Rossi" <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've= run into what I think might be a scam.
>
> Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking pric= e. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to = their shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.
>
> Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.
>
> Doc Rossi



--0016e6435390dbfc5f049bb3890a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 16:27:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D29CB183489; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:27:05 UTC Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:18:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1781159576.540809.1297095537741.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_540808_1731687960.1297095537741" X-Originating-IP: [146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_540808_1731687960.1297095537741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are they all in Nigeria? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc Rossi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 11:15:21 AM Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam I think all three of these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi < docittern@gmail.com > wrote: 1955 Fender Deluxe ------=_Part_540808_1731687960.1297095537741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Are they all in Nigeria?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc Rossi" <docittern@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 11:15:21 AM
Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam

I think all three of these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
1955 Fender Deluxe



------=_Part_540808_1731687960.1297095537741-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 16:40:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B119118349A; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:40:38 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a3ed246f-4076-4534-9511-fcf77a646cb2_" X-Originating-IP: [151.198.85.18] From: David Grego To: Subject: RE: OT: on-line sales scam Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:35:36 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2011 16:35:37.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C8B3050:01CBC6E5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:40:41 +0000 (UTC) --_a3ed246f-4076-4534-9511-fcf77a646cb2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has happened to me plenty. It is a scam. Don't even answer it. No poli= teness necessary. ~David =20 Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 16:31:05 +0100 Subject: OT: on-line sales scam From: docittern@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into wha= t I think might be a scam. Three potential buyers have contacted me about it=2C each wanting to send m= e either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They= then want me to send the remainder of the money=2C minus charges=2C to the= ir shipping agent=2C who will then come and pick up the amp. Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. Doc Rossi = --_a3ed246f-4076-4534-9511-fcf77a646cb2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has happened to me plenty. It is a scam. Don't even answer it. =3B= No politeness necessary. ~David =3B =3B
Date: Mon=2C 7 Feb 2011 16:31:05 +0100
Subject: OT: on-line sales scamFrom: docittern@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<= BR>I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into = what I think might be a scam.

Three potential buyers have contacted me about it=2C each wanting to s= end me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price.= They then want me to send the remainder of the money=2C minus charges=2C t= o their shipping agent=2C who will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc Rossi
= --_a3ed246f-4076-4534-9511-fcf77a646cb2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 17:05:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBFD2183479; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-963548765 Message-Id: <8389F2C8-8015-49E5-AE62-9C64FFDF2B2E@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:05:28 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.5 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2,HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_DYNAMIC,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net X-Spam-Level: **** Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:05:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-963548765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mess with them even more. Have the email bounced back to them, heh heh! On a Mac, it's simple. if using a separate email program like I do then it's (shift/command/B) and then hit 'return'. Viola! Quick and EZ. I do this all the time with *any* spams and scams that come in and / or do not get snagged by one of my spam filters. If nothing else, it gives me a little satisfaction that I may have 'effed with these scum in some way. Cheers-Rev. Fever Portland,OR On Feb 7, 2011, at 8:35 AM, David Grego wrote: > This has happened to me plenty. It is a scam. Don't even answer it. > No politeness necessary. ~David > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:31:05 +0100 > Subject: OT: on-line sales scam > From: docittern@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run > into what I think might be a scam. > > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to > send me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the > asking price. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, > minus charges, to their shipping agent, who will then come and pick > up the amp. > > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > > Doc Rossi --Apple-Mail-5-963548765 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Mess with them even more. Have the email bounced back to them, heh heh! =  
On a Mac, it's simple. if using a separate email program like = I do
then it's (shift/command/B) and then hit 'return'.  Viola! =  Quick and EZ.  
I do this all the time with *any* = spams and scams that come in and / or do not get snagged by one of my = spam filters.
If nothing else, it gives me a little = satisfaction that I may have 'effed with these scum in some = way. 

Cheers-Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

On Feb 7, 2011, at = 8:35 AM, David Grego wrote:

This has happened to me plenty. It is a scam. Don't even answer = it. No politeness necessary. ~David  
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:31:05 +0100
Subject: OT: = on-line sales scam
From: docittern@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale = on-line and I've run into what I think might be a = scam.

Three potential buyers have contacted me about = it, each wanting to send me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for = twice the asking price. They then want me to send the remainder of the = money, minus charges, to their shipping agent, who will then come and = pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this = before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc = Rossi

= --Apple-Mail-5-963548765-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 18:57:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 662F518345B; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 573974946/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.22.210/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.22.210 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRbS/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="573974946" Message-ID: <4D5040B4.3010309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:57:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam References: <8389F2C8-8015-49E5-AE62-9C64FFDF2B2E@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: <8389F2C8-8015-49E5-AE62-9C64FFDF2B2E@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Revfever wrote: > Mess with them even more. Have the email bounced back to them, heh heh! > On a Mac, it's simple. if using a separate email program like I do > then it's (shift/command/B) and then hit 'return'. Viola! Quick and EZ. > I do this all the time with *any* spams and scams that come in and / or > do not get snagged by one of my spam filters. > If nothing else, it gives me a little satisfaction that I may have > 'effed with these scum in some way. a lot of scammers/spammers will be very pleased you replied, ...now they know your email is genuine, sometimes that's all they want From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 19:07:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E85CA183461; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D/IW5cEYX1KHmAIxGVBqRtWyF8+nFWooiVnE/8jGs1M=; b=nli2HSYcL7vezo6CYOfjhJ4HcGcLwSvAMnUl8rNb7C5Sxe/0SYmkC+MXDcljRb9tVl vXCY6sh1gFnrcGNhzSAVa6KLp2fda2v9N5XvMiSK038qRbj3hCAG3afg8XiS5RtHww+D Xu+umGtR4eD6QgNhcM8RfUJzUbdVFdgaGQL8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lqCPYmkjCAN2JwKzvIi5n2brJW1Y4E8C9JYYm9aNt/eTlP9DUH2AjqvfF5Y2tTsYa6 L87x5Ej3p2L3DBHAbSEoufgm0g4KJyThXA4Vq7FvWcH7CWjlGFk0OKSV6RSmH9HX+k/O HmmU4qCxt5HSkOnvZkJ9aks8hynIiFEK2AZ0Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > This is beautiful stuff!=A0 - I will be ordering a copy.. Thanks Gareth, glad you like it :) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 19:08:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAB92183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcRA6hgxu01Yghgk0oVAjEXZPF+m/DON1FnHeNW1VGc=; b=tPb9tYs3N8qKi5UlqkvMFiELPLwShr5UbOxlcGVYyRCXHIX69hW1FN1e7NWYI9BuhX bFh6AHa7cMiRukwjK6QAvzQ3KzngpU2LCqAM8yJXxCtqAC1pD5N0wX7y/R3kNvA/WZXt V+dUYbLnWIP6OvopG9YHCEZYW8fAZxb54LqJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Nroj7/4nD11gJNo5f6bzm1iyIbIQgr5fjF8iz8RgDkChNNy8IgpVGtLLjQ0KkPSPfU JkenHVs01IAOYsi1VYg7P1cEODa6ZYQJWVSKZhFl1zLakw4mWuovRyPuwN/ZvR3wG2Al qi6WSG9KLC9kamyTosN4y3mcG57Ws8iJSbVh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23C00CDC-8ABA-48FC-9CD2-837BFAAA421A@charter.net> References: <23C00CDC-8ABA-48FC-9CD2-837BFAAA421A@charter.net> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 19:08:48 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > This is very, very nice. > > I'll be ordering one soon too. > http://premonitionfactory.com/archives/sense-of-time-pre-order-now-availa= ble Thanks Ted! I'm sure you gonna like this album :) --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 20:08:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4564183459; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 648485.75043.bm@omp1028.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297109280; bh=sMruwtzkgQzIMhH21WM5GnZig9uamZs8o4Kb1QJfW24=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J9vTSfK03q/k8iQNHUhriBF+77rSB/oeYu7LfNUoaFWm0fyd5LTCVe2O9y8NozknuF+YCTz/cSEaHPmgYlRTRvGQTDWhlkD3npN3Uc9TK9wKSgXQxVNRIA5rtG2lASdshP2koaq70ZqIKEE/K52cv8I/rHo+qnCMkd0GVCFpY+Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UatBAUJ+sZaEccdSFAsLmy9KMsx0IEo+IYU6CqZWPc8fc2X0Eb56CBNvXdqDfg9zcSB5NP1K8vma2mM+Cov0belcKVJ2Qmd6aFNrVsGB5enrYJQ56KKl2mMGEBR0PAeZy1OVWA1ED41IZg6KOquPoVLNjRH02r3Fe+WxIN8cpSI=; Message-ID: <969072.42680.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZpmUZm8VM1lu6dKMu1F7MKOJ8ck22NvCG6pJ3fyggkjZdOh 6o_9diov0SSQFVQwiZ..W3ik9TjVjJzlgUPOB_.bLiZrl2wpjoPMivFZH4oQ 2KSSNwr2LXesLe77Nt5KrdMbdA6BIrDcG3OnxL6UCCVs7gBcMoeh_L_FENm3 acAr2mo5GRyBxeK7KowU8Wi27gSbhf6.SRgbfRiI9pmU6WlvwzZ7AmyhNR3E Hwg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:08:00 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-168895213-1297109280=:42680" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:08:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-168895213-1297109280=:42680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now that the conversation has turned to the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if anyone has tried the Eleven Rack? Regards, Doug --0-168895213-1297109280=:42680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Now that the conversation has turned to the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if anyone has tried the Eleven Rack?

Regards,
Doug

--0-168895213-1297109280=:42680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 20:45:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 695EC183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GIRlDJSrDFyqPt2mbZCqgNnqTeFAYjORFEvQXKjuPus=; b=gb04ou81WB5DFvP6KMU14VdH/rhZFT3E8MnfjE3fvQa0oxsmzM0qLrKBpX1dA1RzpN 6sfqTL8Bb4L+8ems+dw4yylNGjkALcBTe7jluQwDZoW1tKyYM1ohbCZlyfXya4G2rTNA XRnRg3BO4YK8FR6cCGBEWTtXCMA/l+69dbGJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x9goZrzmM/Wv9OWTZlDie1gW4Cblv75AcDUjeVbirxXpGhVSOy5wkFo0LioKg1u/Pl XPeWhSym97YNVI5lxxX+cL/3xTzcbsy+71EyolVu6+gk+bADNHrfvVmJNX8yJlpZ7QC+ x7HhUrPfV9PTBSP4s3s6d2DbG6ejArmNJJWz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <969072.42680.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> <969072.42680.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:45:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:45:24 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Doug Wellington wrote: > Now that the conversation has turned to the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if > anyone has tried the Eleven Rack? I got to play with Eleven as much as I wanted when doing a Pro Tools test for a magazine and I think those guitar amp sim algorithms are totally ok. Not better nor worse than the competitors on the same level I would say. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 20:47:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FCE4183459; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAFANboT01Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACXBo4cunuFWgSEeoob X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,438,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="101050747" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:50:47 -0600 References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> <969072.42680.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) > > Not better nor worse than the competitors on the same > level I would say. I guess it depends whether or not you think the Axe-Fx is at or above the level to which you refer. Are you saying Line 6 and Eleven Rack are on the same level? Or are you saying that all of these companies are basically on the same level when it comes to amp modeling? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 20:52:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D500183459; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5DC50B04-8668-44F2-A0BC-156D60684557@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-977141825 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: cables Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:52:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3ae-c.A.61C.BuFUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:52:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-977141825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have yet to use these guys but they have come highly recommended, though a bit pricey, plus there is a bunch of excellent info on their site debunking many common myths about cables and selling points such as "oxygen free". These are hand assembled in Darwin, California, which one must Google Earth to fully appreciate how far in the middle of nowhere they are, right outside the boundaries of Death Valley to be exact, hence the name, http://www.deathvalleycablecompany.com/ they have premade stuff but will custom make any lengths you want. If I didn't shuffle my pedals around so much I'd probably go in this direction as the George L's stuff is solderless and will pull from time to time. Bill --Apple-Mail-1-977141825 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have yet to use these guys but they have come highly recommended, though a bit pricey, plus there is a bunch of excellent info on their site debunking many common myths about cables and selling points such as "oxygen free". These are hand assembled in Darwin, California, which one must Google Earth to fully appreciate how far in the middle of nowhere they are, right outside the boundaries of Death Valley to be exact,   hence the name, http://www.deathvalleycablecompany.com/ they have premade stuff but will custom make any lengths you want. If I didn't shuffle my pedals around so much I'd probably go in this direction as the George L's stuff is solderless and will pull from time to time.
Bill
--Apple-Mail-1-977141825-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:10:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC1D6183459; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8itGOUG6Qf3fyXJ/9e/hwP9dJomTOioSG+Iwt0m6G3I=; b=MiFHcRkwpAqSTZctrfPqfKa+l05dQU6cuxzdHPJWV7goUC+2OerBvaLq8vjFxKudlu uMq9ULa4ZvvEUkZQYq6hX8h7bKFs9ULsMqobUKTpFZoiO2/RGM4vI68dhDfPo/Rwo0tI R9I2RDYngbyoK7bKwHQTAsAAbXF6jwwwcvv8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=biCA2uCOimMspa5eb868mW8QP/Ts6GlAFzbM/30TVZQLQvMHTOrj9dKKngUI+zPiY1 gAKrZDCADIu3X9XyZSHkJwCwsygUPIQxrbu/r5606BqLH2itAvtdKBKEZJ4tNgNmAb5V lbasNf2DfMuulcX2+URTeJce7SKWbIUFOcxy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5DC50B04-8668-44F2-A0BC-156D60684557@baymoon.com> References: <5DC50B04-8668-44F2-A0BC-156D60684557@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:10:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: cables To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2a580cb0a049bb7a915 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:10:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2a580cb0a049bb7a915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nothing like a good company. The website gives me the feeling that I'm dealing with professionals. gonna check this out. Have always had the feeling that the George L stuff is rather highly priced= . Do you find that as well? I've also heard from others as well as you that they're simply great cable and great connectors though. best, T. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM, William Walker wrot= e: > I have yet to use these guys but they have come highly recommended, thoug= h > a bit pricey, plus there is a bunch of excellent info on their site > debunking many common myths about cables and selling points such as "oxyg= en > free". These are hand assembled in Darwin, California, which one must Goo= gle > Earth to fully appreciate how far in the middle of nowhere they are, righ= t > outside the boundaries of Death Valley to be exact, hence the name, > http://www.deathvalleycablecompany.com/ they have premade stuff but will > custom make any lengths you want. If I didn't shuffle my pedals around so > much I'd probably go in this direction as the George L's stuff is solderl= ess > and will pull from time to time. > Bill > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a2a580cb0a049bb7a915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nothing like a good company. =A0The website gives me the feeling that I'= ;m dealing with professionals. =A0gonna check this out.=A0

Have always had the feeling that the George L stuff is rather highly pri= ced. =A0Do you find that as well? =A0I've also heard from others as wel= l as you that they're simply great cable and great connectors though.= =A0

best, =A0T.



On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.c= om> wrote:
I have = yet to use these guys but they have come highly recommended, though a bit p= ricey, plus there is a bunch of excellent info on their site debunking many= common myths about cables and selling points such as "oxygen free&quo= t;. These are hand assembled in Darwin, California, which one must Google E= arth to fully appreciate how far in the middle of nowhere they are, right o= utside the boundaries of Death Valley to be exact, =A0 hence the name,=A0http://= www.deathvalleycablecompany.com/=A0they have premade stuff but will cus= tom make any lengths you want. If I didn't shuffle my pedals around so = much I'd probably go in this direction as the George L's stuff is s= olderless and will pull from time to time.
Bill



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--20cf3054a2a580cb0a049bb7a915-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:16:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9949183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:16:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EcNpTxdmEhYFNz7FY33K86yQkhm+0zNCRto9mFY2wCc=; b=UOxF1+x3GNw/Ul93iacVwe8r5kL8E/M3ToWjDuHbk0cgORTUz9D4HSvYCZcz0rbY47 izNXsGGWs5f2gHyhIctdDjHrEjs19KDWrthTI8oJrCs22AxKXmqFwcUHCnYv3edZXXEI IplEc7O/22yibGPRih6AL1NVLVBO/lBqTrVho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j0kwvuIh9+Q/fZUS7zzdJASX1ELFzdxSvBFKMxfB3yKxbNxfLDf2Nyd1MHJZH2XPM5 2R4bem9CNL7Wk3Lw3OIbn9YI6U8mw0WdFx0hrpj1zM8aesm0+fkv9/BHWiokpiwAVMER ehXcCQ0AXHs0oi/jpqt+ofzhGdthTTUGxK4HI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <545638.17118.qm@web59704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <94DD3E87-7B66-43CC-83C9-497842821A55@frontier.com> <969072.42680.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:16:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:16:17 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > >> >> Not better nor worse than the competitors on the same >> level I would say. > > I guess it depends whether or not you think the Axe-Fx is at or above the > level to which you refer. Are you saying Line 6 and Eleven Rack are on the > same level? Or are you saying that all of these companies are basically on > the same level when it comes to amp modeling? > What I meant to say is that I think they are all so different that each player has to listen and decide based on his own needs. Guitar sound is a personal thing that depends on many variable which makes it hard to say that something is generally "better" or "worse" than something else. What you could say though is wether you think a specific product is better or less good for a particular type of sound; like for example "snappy funk chords sound", "warm jazz sound" or "metal sound". When I say "on the same level" I mean two things; first that if you compare for example the Eleven Rack with the plugin Eleven you have to make sure the plugin version is hosted in a system going through an audio interface of the same quality as the Rack and finally that when comparing the algorithms I'm looking only at stuff that will sound as good as the AD/DA gear allows (ruling out products like 16 bit iPhone guitar amp simulators etc). In my book everything above a certain level is good enough, the more important point is how well certain products suite specific musical needs. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:23:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70477183473; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=XDKF30qda6E4plSQLpDyyLlgc5oy8RCBmzD+CoWK9JM=; b=KeBvJLMLIi24GItWYmvHzXMczXFRd9ZJah/Oys5Gyl1SZTRkq31d0eKwqIwRYJClm1 T0kDQrlUMa2LSMyeecjuyY4CfaJZt8l1aWHtt74V9KcoMp8AuV1XSO0AC+ToHrw9npCU ZnUikNoF+J/a9mg5291S3sZiZp7QKNujkrh4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=DJRfOfD0gdSMpZco8La8LHmBdaVgVZWNI26CWThO893lybFSUY5TcVHeaxl+qFSeR5 xFVVkxwijkpAHfpIj+cdk9KxMQWYevVvPDn9/NXvL4wBwSQK6TVGeda5RdgVr1MPSJ6i ujcwkALSycOTF49KPZRri91BfW5LPSVo/3n+A= From: bruno kleinefeld Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-979011465 Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:23:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20110207211619.BDEBF18347A@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110207211619.BDEBF18347A@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <-1hNdD.A.9HE.DLGUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:23:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-979011465 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have one=20 and I consider it to be turning point.=20 Before it I never had any modeler (even if tried many): only valve amps. Now I do enjoy playing with it: mainly recording and playing at home = tough. But the power of DSPs has arrived to a point were digital doesn't sound = digital anymore. See for instance what Strymon is doing with pedals... > Now that the conversation has turned to the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if = anyone has tried the Eleven Rack? >=20 > Regards, > Doug >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-979011465 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Now that the conversation has turned to = the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if anyone has tried the Eleven = Rack?

Regards,
Doug



= --Apple-Mail-3-979011465-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:31:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEAC0183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110207211619.E8C67183475@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-979496973 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: cables Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:31:16 -0800 References: <20110207211619.E8C67183475@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-979496973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd said: > Have always had the feeling that the George L stuff is rather highly > priced. Do you find that as well? I've also heard from others as > well as you that they're simply great cable and great connectors > though. > Actually considering how you can use the jacks over and over again and the cost per foot of the cable., they seem like a bargain compared to what passes for boutique cables these days. They sound great, very low capacitance, perfect for pedal boards, easier to bend in to small places. But they are for the do it your selfer, and require a sharp chisel or single sided razor blade, and a small hammer to make the cleanest cuts (better than typical dikes or wire cutters). Bill --Apple-Mail-2-979496973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd said:

Have always had the feeling that the George L stuff is = rather highly priced.  Do you find that as well?  I've also = heard from others as well as you that they're simply great cable and = great connectors though. 

  
Actually considering how you = can use the jacks over and over again and the cost per foot of the = cable., they seem like a bargain compared to what passes for boutique = cables these days. They sound great, very low capacitance, perfect for = pedal boards, easier to bend in to small places. But they are for the do = it your selfer, and require a sharp chisel or single sided razor blade, = and a small hammer to make the cleanest cuts (better than typical dikes = or wire cutters).
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2-979496973-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:45:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB1C1183475; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:42:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <3wkkr.A.K3E.TeGUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful Sjaak, congratualtions. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 21:54:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5750218347E; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8D1489E3-2A01-40EA-9E46-377584F4B7A0@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:53:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Nice work Todd, lovely tone and technique, nice to see someone using a soft step. what is your mic? I have been borrowing a DPA4099G to use on my weissenborn and acoustic guitar, but to really get the most out of it I will need to move to in-ear monitors and a soft step. The DPA mic is amazing and they make them for both string and brass instruments, its a miniature shot gun mic that has great feedback rejection and much better ambient noise rejection than typical miniature condensor mics. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 22:34:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57F06183461; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=WRO5e4nM417/5OqzhfN29Ijqm6BRi3akfquTwy3vnW8=; b=hMjnx45dXJHnfaaZ28L9KK/F+cC70jYSUtMVd/tmT7jyRHwRe9Eaj2B1GEQePSRuv+ aVTsG8J5FFjUtX38xrhhjn5CKcPFhmcmDBkoPdMqFSUHc4C3iKZvsSWxVFXafBgDQIU4 NNh3GNhsxXHLx8mIdYzb6JE3IIpqkQ0Gkk7YI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :mime-version:x-mailer; b=lpJin1v+l6Sb6tqSyAqjGUGEPIHHOdYbvQBu50KynC6k20hajd1yZJ7viLuYPvh4YC TMzHSXigWyvjPHxy3T7xArlFT5rgc6iulLlwEOF3FVWY3dfK4o3HKXpqa8UA5Tb3+Twz zrI1tcGktOqy9Yz58TIEOHZzqCjCISRCBE5Sk= Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam References: <1781159576.540809.1297095537741.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: doc rossi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10-983260275 In-Reply-To: <1781159576.540809.1297095537741.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-Id: <4EA47421-D757-444A-821C-CC101D556452@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:34:00 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:34:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-983260275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii None of them - Two are in England, one in Australia and one in Belgium. On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Christophe wrote: > Are they all in Nigeria? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doc Rossi" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 11:15:21 AM > Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam > > I think all three of these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site. > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi wrote: > 1955 Fender Deluxe > > > > --Apple-Mail-10-983260275 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii None of them - Two are in England, one in Australia = and one in Belgium.

On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:18 PM, = Christophe wrote:

Are = they all in Nigeria?


----- Original Message -----
From: = "Doc Rossi" <docittern@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2011 11:15:21 = AM
Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam

I think all three of = these guys saw the ad on the Thomann site.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
1955 Fender Deluxe





= --Apple-Mail-10-983260275-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 22:53:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F4223183473; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=DnlMtht52eUsmylqmsCaAsgIPhOTQgVZUuBfFOvHnN0=; b=IjJ2qRDcQLo1ubZOBWziB7WIbHyIcgWyM05Q2oF1ZprcgdlPrRhZPWdcTBPczjSDTr nmf787s+kT4PSDXsk1nQPIL/FaUCYKIyQV6kqNBk8np/Q7n0HDJQ0iMHhB3p7J4XuolV mMhMORKiO9SiwU3gfTR+c6sP1tjNqxmBmrIEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=XhJFFAejmx15eB4hA/J0wfbQR53cpiO1fSIwNcSabk9oLW90mOWJddDvMUpAD3abhd yM+GMH4mhyViSzcasDnXxheKsYG1Ed/Vu0QgAu31oiBzgPC5gGmDkMBITXfDPc8yN8Yg gMcsihhOT/56R0HMTE9HkVCs54yqolI4ngZKc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: cables From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:53:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110207211619.E8C67183475@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 22:53:48 +0000 (UTC) I've recently learned to roll my own and it wasn't that hard to get the = hang of it. Now from that little time investment I can make really high = quality cables to custom length and plugs. It's probably by far the most = expensive option because you need a soldering station, handful of tools = and a couple vises to hold the cables..... but this way I can only blame = myself, and go back to the garage if I'm not happy with it :)=20 -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 23:03:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 196FF183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=t9tkeN032od7epW/3UUOxwDnTJKry0yyARLFV/fdthk=; b=IXIZB2ARYS83rNGNiIsDqk8tZY/2w3lx1KDdlg02jITFuNAN9E4zXZTNkNr6Xyp4mH gpNCH879As262TfcWV5hY4Nyc+dBdr9KC858n49MhLZChpsETFZWL1C5na8sMq9UIvGT YHi9ujziVT0P4uFynXES+cx97sgUVXc6XQfyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=pUg0PxKMbn3+2sEhIkKiAQ/leouuFTPyxYaBcPpuJ+sz79NP3Kd8ynd8rmzPDq45rw byihshf1/wA6WdAwulYD4TYwPRc8hwlR1j5iVh7AR73fv70ZJy5ZqWsK0cFAyHlvamoX eNd2OMvHUu6QYwi9wam5VDoIQnQr2raLSapxk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Radiohead Live Loopin' on Double Bass From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <8D1489E3-2A01-40EA-9E46-377584F4B7A0@baymoon.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 18:03:41 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <8D1489E3-2A01-40EA-9E46-377584F4B7A0@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:03:47 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 7, 2011, at 4:53 PM, William Walker wrote: > Nice work Todd, lovely tone and technique, nice to see someone using = a soft step. what is your mic? I have been borrowing a DPA4099G to use = on my weissenborn and acoustic guitar, but to really get the most out of = it I will need to move to in-ear monitors and a soft step. The DPA mic = is amazing and they make them for both string and brass instruments, its = a miniature shot gun mic that has great feedback rejection and much = better ambient noise rejection than typical miniature condensor mics. > Bill >=20 Thanks Bill! I really loved your last few video. I've been reading the = Mobius manual since I saw your last video trying to figure out how I = could make pulsing rhythms like that out of some string chords I layer = up. I actually usually use the 4099! For this radiohead one I'm using an = RE20, which I usually use for recording, and I did it as an experiment. = It sounds nicer for pizz but I think I like the 4099 much better = overall. The softstep is great because the light bulb went off for this = last video that can loop with only mics if I'm just doing a video = recording with only the softstep(without any clicking stompboxes). = Sounds soooo much nicer than bowing a bass with a pickup. Usually I just = loop with my pickup and kick in the 4099 when I play over top of the = loops. Depending or not if I use any stompboxes on the next video I'm = gonna try blending both mics.=20 Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 23:26:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43748183461; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qW5RuUVBV9m3z47lCQCcr44a7LI1wpwBsRPWkDnDdkQ=; b=g09gn3gez3yenzdRvmMJeO3D5vblR3GfO6frxaBqvoapxHyh0FkxtKLRrX86mu6rxv KTGO3I5jYuRbDtRSnVm/KotB9KrJH+SEpfK7NsiIeW2hrH3bsSFG59HRxpBHVR0f+Cf2 Gyi80n/F5vD4E+wCtJ8wDBjcpg10uO6dLuQMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PvJ+1Zw2L8100rDgYaLql9Z9DwvrFAsg8vrbyt3BHu/IyJO/16g4y/gIRMpE+4Js74 GVUugBN4xZgHDyWYKH415ip7zZroqKsNZDPpQx9nvgvmezK1uNawr/AJoI1DWODh/nhp jSkNb7WqLR5dZ+Jc15WinMr1mROyBaR+94a80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110207211619.BDEBF18347A@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 00:26:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1E6Ng.A.3R.M-HUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:26:04 +0000 (UTC) well it certainly sounds great,somehow warmer to my ears on the crunch sounds as the Ultra FX but online is hard to tell I havent bought a multi effector since i sold my GP100(though i did have the GT10 for a while) and decided better to go back to pedals and amp and wait But this one sounds like a real candy though or maybe is the price difference to the AXE FX that sound delicious to my ears Luis On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, bruno kleinefeld wrote: > I have one > and I consider it to be turning point. > Before it I never had any modeler (even if tried many): only valve amps. > Now I do enjoy playing with it: mainly recording and playing at home tough. > > But the power of DSPs has arrived to a point were digital doesn't sound > digital anymore. > See for instance what Strymon is doing with pedals... > > > > > Now that the conversation has turned to the Axe-Fx, I've got to ask if > anyone has tried the Eleven Rack? > > Regards, > Doug > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 7 23:38:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867E1183466; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 524084.55243.bm@omp1066.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297121893; bh=nzsFhVB6966BZOmGTIbxOCud3IaZaZ46BDi5mEuLxLg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QgC/wMqYw3XVdpxpzfT0ejy9qJM6xE9QVQoX2UVspq/2gKiDJ0IFwEPeSTcddG8wYStNjg3RxarPTEe2Ezi6BELWpr/dA+jxcgPy/wzqif9kXBkym1hbFtTPlu6iYxKqIrnsOO4t8C0WxvBx7xV0SjdupBNKCGOJY1kNLK5sQmQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m0c8pHMuNgT+1fFXKn7pGaANLXWMBrvyL3YMrkCJ09306H8BjpFnEpzYaD485rd2E2IbYUU+4CVGhB6U70cyD9Ssj8d75eTNSL8GlQfrRoz2o5jS7td1TqHhsqthfMwQfE7GFcYcWh6djpvoUDx3rC/N6VIhp7Ajdua/oLeyiM4=; Message-ID: <229463.36258.qm@web59715.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: m.EDw.MVM1mf68kg2RkKnWJWjeCa.nWRSYDSO4NzZ.6oVYO mQqpjQ_qaJi848Db4W2mtv33J95FaYL7nDYQ.twt5fR8tQuJuhgd96njc1wy p.XMlFKLLReEAHecFVcsl_YP_yg03Ppf_8eduBFp9B2NnBaOeDxN8ofrsnQy E_UMZ_ZTtUzp_DQUQ9opMUfCgz9PaWaSFBJlhpNwy8vyYoGVVbtAtaj7UT9K Jj_tyqhF0XuyNz0ETKq4O_TkzIdzc5cS5HOlCt.7p5CQkLdQnfaFREevL45T _F_gaM9RkU9R2uoLZVTjc2KrfBnRR6wGySvLu1fYdhH_ECcA7 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <20110207211619.BDEBF18347A@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 15:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: Eleven Rack? Was: Eventide. Was: NOrd To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 23:38:14 +0000 (UTC) >or maybe is the price difference to the AXE FX that sound delicious to my ears Then the HD500 should sound *amazing*! Regards, Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 02:03:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0C47183474; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 447 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:03:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1297130598; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=gwfI4udAZkXrdrZMh1oP2gkGQDo=; b=c6Inan5Uwh0rad9WMssvvFVBSTQVTDU9xb0CRSbM74tCFCytCoQrbookJisF1KYr 4Kw+isTRUSdjOTVxzpWlV9DvZd3lWfabYBrrExEwBwASZrXChsYjT3+HVPQvwKU1; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=gA1grWOI6AyL9icpvZoKV93Ks3Ptpu640JiBSSyHjzE= c=1 sm=0 a=j041ih87OwUA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=wVl+NDcTKmhEzwoTzl+XhQ==:17 a=x_MwGl5prDmvp8eWlR4A:9 a=WBfxV6pxW1uyvSqZ4cDG43icgRMA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wVl+NDcTKmhEzwoTzl+XhQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> To: "'LD'" In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 21:03:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Thread-Index: AcvG3VrjKzYagAocR0GuFiav8bDqAwAVtz3Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! Edward Yuhas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 02:15:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC449183473; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1297130150; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=tX9KHRwcu6jm3x2IMn+FaEmeJR8=; b=hfFveUm+mo9Fr7FSltLrDIPQl12ueXU8hCvtd0zcRVy7wfZ38uQOvYQk8RaR/N8v ctE0YveC0u/wUNxcfyeyoFnukfATp5rC35vDxXn9vmWqm7Teo+xIDDW7Qslcjgqy; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QF13NZClf4lRd2DPIjYKb8ATYFmGVkRIFWTlx0FImDE= c=1 sm=0 a=wVl+NDcTKmhEzwoTzl+XhQ==:17 a=IREahqrnAuNzqHJfvtkA:9 a=VfEiKvvFeeSjl6mlx7NP6QQ4XycA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=azgBf_SNVPDsNOKzvbUA:9 a=4yRjmYOcubQQGVgFbrsA:7 a=ztcN9bAl2b68zkoc8KYAOmeFScEA:4 a=wVl+NDcTKmhEzwoTzl+XhQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: To: In-Reply-To: <5DC50B04-8668-44F2-A0BC-156D60684557@baymoon.com> Subject: RE: cables Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01CBC709.67371F90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7600.16543 Thread-Index: AcvHLHzqU9woUtIDR/WF3wx9HpRsJgABkANw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01CBC709.67371F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are a number of Forum threads over at The Gear Page currently discussing cables. George L's and Lava always seem to get high marks... I just rearranged my board and added a bunch of nice true-bypass pedals and I'm looking into the Lava cabling. Gonna DIY and solder them. I like the flexibility of choosing how short/long they need to be without wasting cable and degrading my tone, etc. FWIW. Edward Yuhas ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01CBC709.67371F90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There are a number of Forum threads = over at The Gear Page currently discussing cables. George L's and Lava always = seem to get high marks...

 

I just rearranged my board and = added a bunch of nice true-bypass pedals and I'm looking into the Lava cabling. = Gonna DIY and solder them.

 

I like the flexibility of choosing = how short/long they need to be without wasting cable and degrading my tone, = etc.

 

FWIW.

 

Edward = Yuhas

------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01CBC709.67371F90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 09:03:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3CE4183466; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-1021037568 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:03:37 +0900 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:03:37 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <42BYaD.A.ArE.wbQUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:03:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-1021037568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Mark & Per. The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does the Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do? And how about the Roland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the time, but they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need, but if I can assign them in a way that I could get different tonalities more would be better. On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Before deciding on what foot MIDI controller board to go with, be sure > to also check out the GORDIUS Little Giant 2! I personally switched to > the LG2 for portability reasons and to save money; I have used three > Beheringer pedals and learned that they last about three years, so if > planning to play for more than three years the more expensive LG2 will > be less expensive in the long run. It is way smaller and lighter and > allow more switches/pedals including the option of four additional > analog expression pedals and/or on/off/momentary switches. > http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php > > As for the SoftStep I was very excited with it at the projecting stage > when reading the specifications but I withdraw my pre order as the > release was almost half a year delayed. I was afraid that a company > that misses proper scheduling that far may not succeed very well with > their pre release product testing and I don't want to sacrifice my > musical ambitions and booked concerts to become an unpaid beta tester. > > So the Gordius was the only player left for me and I can only say I'm > very happy with it. If you get ono, be sure to set up a bootcamp > Windows partition on your MBPro so you can run the Windows only (Mac > version coming, but who knows when...) to manage your Gordius banks > efficiently. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ed Durbrow > wrote: >> I'm trying to decide on which to buy: SoftStep or Behringer 1010. I >> plan on >> buying a MacBook Pro and run Mobius, Logic and Digital Performer on >> it. I'm >> hoping to create a very portable system, something I can carry on >> the train >> with a guitar and lute. Of course the SS is appealing because of >> the size >> and capabilities. The 1010 could be strapped to the guitar if need >> be, but >> smaller is better, I think, for portability. I just got the Korg Nano >> Kontrol, Pad & Key. These are obviously small enough. >> My dilemma, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is I am patience- >> challenged >> and it is getting worse with age. I am struggling to learn Logic >> now, but it >> is not too terrible because it is, well, logical (and I have 25 years >> experience using Performer). I got pretty frustrated with the Boss >> RC-2, so >> that will give you an idea of my threshold. My question: Is the >> SoftStep >> ready for prime-time? There are so many appealing things about it, >> I want it >> to be a winner. However, from some of the reviews I've read and >> what Adam >> said, I'm afraid it might be a recipe for frustration for me. I'm >> just a >> beginner with looping. > Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-11-1021037568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark & Per.
The Little Giant costs a = lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does the Rolls MP128 not do = what the Gordius and Behringer do? And how about the Roland and Boss pedal switch = units? I see them used over here all the time, but they don't look very = portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need, but if I can assign = them in a way that I could get different tonalities more would be = better.

On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Per = Boysen wrote:

Hi Ed,

Before deciding on what foot MIDI = controller board to go with, be sure
to also check out the GORDIUS = Little Giant 2! I personally switched to
the LG2 for portability = reasons and to save money; I have used three
Beheringer pedals and = learned that they last about three years, so if
planning to play for = more than three years the more expensive LG2 will
be less expensive = in the long run. It is way smaller and lighter and
allow more = switches/pedals including the option of four additional
analog = expression pedals and/or on/off/momentary switches.
http://www.gordi= us.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php

As for the SoftStep I was = very excited with it at the projecting stage
when reading the = specifications but I withdraw my pre order as the
release was almost = half a year delayed. I was afraid that a company
that misses proper = scheduling that far may not succeed very well with
their pre release = product testing and I don't want to sacrifice my
musical ambitions = and booked concerts to become an unpaid beta tester.

So the = Gordius was the only player left for me and I can only say I'm
very = happy with it. If you get ono, be sure to set up a bootcamp
Windows = partition on your MBPro so you can run the Windows only (Mac
version = coming, but who knows when...) to manage your Gordius = banks
efficiently.

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub



On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ed = Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:
I'm trying to decide on which to buy: SoftStep or = Behringer 1010. I plan on
buying= a MacBook Pro and run Mobius, Logic and Digital Performer on it. = I'm
hoping to create a very = portable system, something I can carry on the = train
with a guitar and lute. = Of course the SS is appealing because of the = size
and capabilities. The = 1010 could be strapped to the guitar if need be, = but
smaller is better, I = think, for portability. I just got the Korg = Nano
Kontrol, Pad & Key. = These are obviously small enough.
My dilemma, and I cannot emphasize this enough, is I am = patience-challenged
and it is = getting worse with age. I am struggling to learn Logic now, but = it
is not too terrible because = it is, well, logical (and I have 25 years
experience using Performer). I got pretty frustrated with = the Boss RC-2, so
that will = give you an idea of my threshold. My question: Is = the SoftStep
ready for = prime-time? There are so many appealing things about it, I want = it
to be a winner. However, = from some of the reviews I've read and what = Adam
said, I'm afraid it might = be a recipe for frustration for me. I'm just = a
beginner with = looping.


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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Doug Wellington wrote: >>or maybe is the price difference to the AXE FX that sound delicious to my ears > > Then the HD500 should sound *amazing*! > > Regards, > Doug > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 15:15:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55DEC183473; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297178111; bh=KUWjh1jfwLkKGMI7q3xjM/kBEvm2vCbfktJ0vxVbLC8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d25oyQEk7Ylw8MvObconeNWnN0qmMawsMSqziF+aa5t8h1pEC3daRwYACwEQg66NzkLfp7gzYqsYRU8ht3z+nNPhlq4lLSfVWlsYTlFbBX0LvHQrTMdQWNsfzNgWQl6tHQxRkEwrnZLEaY8LQBA7x4XAMxGCtgn4SC3TMU1GB9Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zhGudXTZh8dZDCVNUhwW7qBilALCBPK6LA0ovjsRjjpjXjDkxJOQ1DXdkxxCQtXKnw6KfrP2x8R58uMUHz1gGdThTDOqxNN8NU/K2Enl0/2qF8XdMWgL73OV+Zfyx/AhATWd8MDYsaID9PcwLC3Z42+2anGxMA1u82RVwiu7Vyk=; Message-ID: <275274.71111.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: tC6yIC4VM1mRRCUhtrqWcJS7dCYtF2awkNu0tBUvU2IXrUy fjjGWZVR_WQMItwI.xzdres6lxB.icZewDFP_omXwK4hO5..JkY86x6t5RY3 2IR0ozCf60ioOivjq7W.CWHfXMPDuQr9k5RtwY3oxbNfmSZ60yuEdA5_EpU3 k10N4g3Qisye4z4PwNWESz.ItcoaW2Dmij9no4tJuCCSb79tDt55rNR0Yzs. 0iQCKEd6K4n5JGBhUG0nTn63kQXGmNyYXP0lt6taAtK_dX4LCXlJ3QTHts8l CnhMWQedUkxmFVrE0.msLemxRMvzFpsB7rcD4W5ToToQiM5qHQunBeisXp7P 1Vrjmrw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 07:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1468158476-1297178111=:71111" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) --0-1468158476-1297178111=:71111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, =A0 =A0Yes, it happened to me when I (stupidly) sold my VCS3. They were going t= o send me a West. Union wire. I was supposed to cash it, then a person was = coming by and picking up the sunth and the balance of the money.=20 =A0 =A0What happens is, you cash the wire. They come collect. 10 days later, yo= u get a notice from your bank that the wire is no good. You have lost the i= tem and are responsible for the balance of the money. Rig --- On Mon, 2/7/11, Johannes Korn wrote: From: Johannes Korn Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 7:35 AM It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam. You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bounce. =A0 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into wha= t I think might be a scam.=20 Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me = either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They t= hen want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their shi= pping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. Doc Rossi --=20 --=20 jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn =0A=0A=0A --0-1468158476-1297178111=:71111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oddly enough, I was just thinking about this = during a session yesterday. Several years ago (1996-ish?!?)  I had a h= ealthy supply of cables wired up by someone called "Wacky Kovacky" and I've= been very happy with them, as they're quite durable and color-coded by len= gth. But now I need to order some more and can't seem to find any web prese= nce for the guy...

-t-


=0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson=
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--- On Sun, 2/6/11, William Walker <billwalker@baym= oon.com> wrote:

From: William Wa= lker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
Subject: cables
To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 5:52 PM

It was a tonal improvement over its predecessor, but I've worr= ied about what they may be doing to the jacks they are plugged into. What c= ables do you like for your pedal board and from the guitar? (I was surprise= d to find the Planet Waves cable kit had the same problem with overly large= plugs though nowhere near as severe as the Monster problem.)


I use george L's solderless cables, and i'v= e been using the planet waves circuit breaker cables for a while also a sol= deless design.  i haven't found the planet waves cables to have the issues t= he monsters did.
 Bill

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Howdy,
 
 Yes, it happened to me when I (stupidly) sold my VCS3. They were= going to send me a West. Union wire. I was supposed to cash it, then a per= son was coming by and picking up the sunth and the balance of the money.
 
 What happens is, you cash the wire. They come collect. 10 days l= ater, you get a notice from your bank that the wire is no good. You have lo= st the item and are responsible for the balance of the money.
Rig

--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@g= ooglemail.com> wrote:

From: Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.= com>
Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 7:35 AM

It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam= .
You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bo= unce.

 
2011/2/7 Doc Rossi &l= t;docittern@gmail.com>
I've got a vintage Fe= nder amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into what I think might be a = scam.=20

Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. T= hey then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to thei= r shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc Rossi



--
--

That scam is as old as the hills. It is = really easy to generate/print bogus money orders/checks, et al with cu= rrent PC/printer technology that will be accepted by a bank but then will u= ltimately be determined to be phoney. Years ago, I actually DID accept chec= ks for payment and never had a problem (I waited until they cleared).
 
I buy and sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have come across numerous sc= ams by potential "buyers". I had one kid in India who said his Dad was unco= mfortable sending me money for a guitar and he asked if I could send the gu= itar first and then he would pay me. :)


--- On Tue, 2/8/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com= > wrote:

From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:15 AM

Howdy,
 
 Yes, it happened to me when I (stupidly) sold my VCS3. They were= going to send me a West. Union wire. I was supposed to cash it, then a per= son was coming by and picking up the sunth and the balance of the money.
 
 What happens is, you cash the wire. They come collect. 10 days l= ater, you get a notice from your bank that the wire is no good. You have lo= st the item and are responsible for the balance of the money.
Rig

--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@g= ooglemail.com> wrote:

From: Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.= com>
Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 7:35 AM

It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam= .
You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bo= unce.

 
2011/2/7 Doc Rossi &l= t;docittern@gmail.com>
I've got a vintage Fe= nder amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into what I think might be a = scam.=20

Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. T= hey then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to thei= r shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc Rossi



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=0A=0A --0-1061498590-1297181739=:6043-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 16:19:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0867183461; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BmKn0tQUF/liKOgo6IiLKwvnWvzI6qVTjrpqsp00rho=; b=Tp0oEneOc6g+l5BFNZzWEL/NVfNy1Xq/7YEFEiRCDJKztpCETCwK/5D8aStAQ5M66l YxvPn0YmzBzUoZNK/5ZTu0Zz/g/7eXLz31OuLtDfl95ZxwSuMZNiMmJZC93Q5XqPpR7W ffmjfqNjpVArGfbT9/HmOGE/ihywakE++G/SM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h+sLcIITFLQHp0ifelYvGHcBvDus9nbx31mBER2SEI3SlJyUyQqLBmum857bN6kn0P 8SAxXal6AN0PzFj1pjkJ58nYGbeffAVV5l+5yXv2Onfc00UrTLP7zhuNBUA4xE7gM0or 2DgXOD7WSFNHuYMEurUz6JYZXQpFhu/bWBvCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <695475.6043.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <275274.71111.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <695475.6043.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b85c488b80a049bc7b7e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:19:48 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b85c488b80a049bc7b7e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have any of you ever told the bank before depositing the check that you thought it was phony? I've got a mind to try that - it might be fun to sting the b'stard. Of course the check wouldn't come from one of these guys - it comes from his accountant or someone like that - so it would be difficult to get the real guy. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > That scam is as old as the hills. It is really easy to generate/print bogus > money orders/checks, et al with current PC/printer technology that will be > accepted by a bank but then will ultimately be determined to be phoney. > Years ago, I actually DID accept checks for payment and never had a problem > (I waited until they cleared). > > I buy and sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have come across numerous scams > by potential "buyers". I had one kid in India who said his Dad was > uncomfortable sending me money for a guitar and he asked if I could send the > guitar first and then he would pay me. :) > > > --- On *Tue, 2/8/11, bill bigrig * wrote: > > > From: bill bigrig > Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:15 AM > > Howdy, > > Yes, it happened to me when I (stupidly) sold my VCS3. They were going to > send me a West. Union wire. I was supposed to cash it, then a person was > coming by and picking up the sunth and the balance of the money. > > What happens is, you cash the wire. They come collect. 10 days later, you > get a notice from your bank that the wire is no good. You have lost the item > and are responsible for the balance of the money. > Rig > > --- On *Mon, 2/7/11, Johannes Korn * wrote: > > > From: Johannes Korn > Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 7:35 AM > > It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's definitely a scam. > You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bounce. > > > 2011/2/7 Doc Rossi > > > > I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line and I've run into > what I think might be a scam. > > Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to send me > either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking price. They > then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to their > shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp. > > Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me. > > Doc Rossi > > > > > -- > -- > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > www.myspace.com/nashorn > > > > --0016363b85c488b80a049bc7b7e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have any of you ever told the bank before depositing the check that you tho= ught it was phony? I've got a mind to try that - it might be fun to sti= ng the b'stard. Of course the check wouldn't come from one of these= guys - it comes from his accountant or someone like that - so it would be = difficult to get the real guy.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Paul Richard= s <paul= richard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
That scam is as old as the hills. It= is really easy to generate/print bogus money orders/checks, et al=A0with c= urrent PC/printer technology that will be accepted by a bank but then will = ultimately be determined to be phoney. Years ago, I actually DID accept che= cks for payment and never had a problem (I waited until they cleared).
=A0
I buy and sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have come across numerous sc= ams by potential "buyers". I had one kid in India who said his Da= d was uncomfortable sending me money for a guitar and he asked if I could s= end the guitar first and then he would pay me. :)


--- On Tue, 2/8/11, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> = wrote:

From: bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OT: = on-line sales scam
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 201= 1, 10:15 AM

<= /tbody>
Howdy,
=A0
=A0Yes, it happened to me when I (stupidly) sold my VCS3. They were go= ing to send me a West. Union wire. I was supposed to cash it, then a person= was coming by and picking up the sunth and the balance of the money.
=A0
=A0What happens is, you cash the wire. They come collect. 10 days late= r, you get a notice from your bank that the wire is no good. You have lost = the item and are responsible for the balance of the money.
Rig

--- On Mon, 2/7/11, Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@googlemail= .com> wrote:

From: Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 7:35 AM

It hasn't happened to me, but I've heard of it. It's defin= itely a scam.
You send them the remainder of the money, and then their check will bo= unce.

=A0
2011/2/7 Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>
I've got a vintage Fender amp listed for sale on-line a= nd I've run into what I think might be a scam.=20

Three potential buyers have contacted me about it, each wanting to sen= d me either Traveler's checks or a bank check for twice the asking pric= e. They then want me to send the remainder of the money, minus charges, to = their shipping agent, who will then come and pick up the amp.

Has anyone run into this before? It sounds a little weird to me.

Doc Rossi



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--0016363b85c488b80a049bc7b7e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 17:07:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 181F5183460; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ku9xHdPuoMc++A1HTDFG1g9sBbfsG+8/UOOtrP1ZzlU=; b=hi3UF4jGVs1LoOOIDa9zY87u9PoaUwrtA57YKw3dHrac7oQ3SLRZ5JlhuZhSem40rO /ieg+bcYnyg/RVz/codNCyDZZAT/4oly7wLuhfYIJ2QaOyl0J+rAB7J/YvdGSoj1M26p 8OsaxTO8hbgO4Gr4VkroaAeOprD1y/jzN6GPI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tj009UFXrKGM9WCI9qIqzsAux3PUChshh68giSslgaD9I7L19rYu3ozIAluY9lSM6K xKE4ZySAO57Y/D6n2zGBoq7G1V/jc3NODcZxxoBgDsMFXdaWf4t1VaRF4PEkryZWlBrb kZJ3+PkYu6ymoIPoSc1mLtfvlZGy2UzOw6KoE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> References: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:07:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:07:56 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas wrote: > Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! > Edward Yuhas Thanks Edward! All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived. Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 17:42:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF25183460; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vo9p5YHT5kGwYI69SchruwIsKbd5Fak7iqx99Ej4Vys=; b=dCMlE5ih6PTwteOH7zCl/WSXvaL8WnBYWH19O5nIh/SFV+XIQeNPnwmO8SMj//eVFo LXE+k4n7PzUehRk909IyjVlCCXZ3pl843nt6x9kLxVeEPx87ufmoAvCEAVqnXc4Y0Hnm LX/40FDKSJbCSJJl5UnNvqQZFimKHBtVj1pA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eJw5hDF9h+F3IpECbTIw2Jl+0ZZqafAsTYuTzsk0PXtYeR8d4Q6Er8ePGnFFP9Qs73 ZSbOTxaTJivWHikofQzz7atJQlihBpB5g5PkN0waIlejjqZQFIGI4VYPLLGGUxn4h0hl LyKf4WwzACWUcF+aXMKhhWT5v+sjHEW/b2sOY= Message-ID: <4D518095.10602@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:42:45 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam References: <695475.6043.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <695475.6043.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Paul Richards schrieb: > I buy and sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have come across numerous > scams by potential "buyers". I had one kid in India who said his Dad > was uncomfortable sending me money for a guitar and he asked if I > could send the guitar first and then he would pay me. :) > Even more funny things than that happen via eBay. I had this guy in the US who said he was uncomfortable sending me a microphone for money and he asked if I could transfer the money first and then he would send the microphone ;). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 17:50:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B31C183460; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D518095.10602@googlemail.com> References: <695475.6043.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D518095.10602@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: on-line sales scam Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:50:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:50:28 +0000 (UTC) The sad part is that even today and after countless documented bad experiences, there are *still* some not-so-bright people that easily fall for such scams. Still! Those immortal words of PT Barnum come to mind....:-) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Paul Richards schrieb: >> I buy and sell a lot of stuff on eBay and have come across >> numerous scams by potential "buyers". I had one kid in India who >> said his Dad was uncomfortable sending me money for a guitar and >> he asked if I could send the guitar first and then he would pay >> me. :) >> > Even more funny things than that happen via eBay. I had this guy in > the US who said he was uncomfortable sending me a microphone for > money and he asked if I could transfer the money first and then he > would send the microphone ;). > > -- > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 19:11:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5011183462; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JK9NEe3bT/92yj9YoLb7gtkCg3oIl/bGWVpJ4+yLLSs=; b=Ma1UE1p1pNtuGIBjdJRS9PQByrpmhuoMiCiriqgFgaRaepWoAo+lwcOkiRWat/y4lK Cw9EjW5UVtrhBrHtAIkQYsebmAd02ZrZ5q6qLYQXHnokTq4wrgdyMS1ue9+mDGURJuG5 D+aYmNqvgNrqTysEF/+29I7p30yb/ZZX+XApI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ilmZeN7sT14ryZRwRQMwKYI2ArPDxu8/I0epw48J4qAhy3sMmbjDICwayDDSNG7gDP vaXoLt+OMrzvw7LnACrSlJm8podlqjL+aON6ayjXUCdNmeFD9DD5rB899rxKX1B/AFeg BjmtGhFboO3BPeGU//dP/w/wpX6XQjcaEURkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:11:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Digitech PMC10 for sale! From: The Subversive Workshop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cc6e8c4ed6049bca1dd0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cc6e8c4ed6049bca1dd0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, all... I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the power supply and programmer, that I would love to sell. It's in good shape and works well. I can provide photos, if needed, and possibly the original manual. I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply, original manual and a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). It's in good shape as well. I've taken very good care of both items. Contact me privately with any offers: subversiveworkshop@gmail.com I would prefer to do this via Paypal, and can ship in the continental United States only. I have 100% feedback on ebay, and have been trading there since 1999. If you would like to view this info, my username is KLORBG. Thanks! Jeff McLeod -- -- www.jeffmcleod.net --0016e644cc6e8c4ed6049bca1dd0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, all...

I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the pow= er supply and programmer, that I would love to sell. It's in good shape= and works well. I can provide photos, if needed, and possibly the original= manual.

I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply,= original manual and a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). I= t's in good shape as well.

I've taken very= good care of both items.=A0Contact me privately with any offers:


I would prefer to do thi= s via Paypal, and can ship in the continental United States only. I have 10= 0% feedback on ebay, and have been trading there since 1999. If you would l= ike to view this info, my username is KLORBG.

Thanks!

Jeff McLeod
--0016e644cc6e8c4ed6049bca1dd0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 19:24:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B0B3183462; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZGhnbQQ3HvPE+xz+mvPga3e7lDtfufyvK/2HzwKj6yo=; b=WYeP0XBUeXEnKxJ4sLQ+2tjcjQW+GbkmZBQ80CCXmPqigzMMHQVSPYiZSpTloJDetW Yp8lQTWYTOOxQU0KOOAT+3qTJDLPP4yAh9ancqiv9vnwtVO9sXp7xeuBp0vvsjEfkjhQ sAq0R3MFZnhtqIILbDCKp6jWatGPf9sBZKbIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B3HXkqeRC6bwKHwjYEKfoAIvSNxoBmDjnIkGI2RoC7HvQ/UlDdGNq+DVHazeJHvpqW CrNnKEj6KEI+pxr0lUQGwy7aLnZyQzrJnccqImQzR/y9iQ8/AVdrBI1txeoT02RCHmej Hz7i+ivRCZMPVDy9C6balPu/QPEjeMpBOE+Vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Digitech PMC10 for sale! From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53b17a82e1fa049bca4d9e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:24:55 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba53b17a82e1fa049bca4d9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Jeff, just wanted to tell you that I really dig your Moog Guitar stuff, listening now, intense! thanks. http://www.mushmud.com/Music/Collection/Jeff-McLeod/My-Least-Favorite-Animal Jeff On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, The Subversive Workshop < subversiveworkshop@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, all... > > I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the power supply and programmer, that I > would love to sell. It's in good shape and works well. I can provide photos, > if needed, and possibly the original manual. > > I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply, original manual and > a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). It's in good shape as > well. > > I've taken very good care of both items. Contact me privately with any > offers: > > subversiveworkshop@gmail.com > > I would prefer to do this via Paypal, and can ship in the continental > United States only. I have 100% feedback on ebay, and have been trading > there since 1999. If you would like to view this info, my username is > KLORBG. > > Thanks! > > Jeff McLeod > > -- > -- > www.jeffmcleod.net > --90e6ba53b17a82e1fa049bca4d9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jeff, just wanted to tell you that I really dig your Moog Guitar stuff,= listening now, intense! thanks.
http://www.mushmud.com/Mu= sic/Collection/Jeff-McLeod/My-Least-Favorite-Animal

Jeff

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, = The Subversive Workshop <subversiveworkshop@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all...

I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the pow= er supply and programmer, that I would love to sell. It's in good shape= and works well. I can provide photos, if needed, and possibly the original= manual.

I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply,= original manual and a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). I= t's in good shape as well.

I've taken very= good care of both items.=A0Contact me privately with any offers:


I wou= ld prefer to do this via Paypal, and can ship in the continental United Sta= tes only. I have 100% feedback on ebay, and have been trading there since 1= 999. If you would like to view this info, my username is KLORBG.

Thanks!

Jeff McLeod

--90e6ba53b17a82e1fa049bca4d9e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 19:56:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82469183462; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ulN5CyknMnUCaUK71JMncpMJ4BDSJFE8I8Uo/wMO+ys=; b=YJpqP6id/+H74NTOqYSxmThPyjqcb2tfoIkgpSkgFxgptf8+/hwi1xA6Pr91wappF4 ZTkLNw17X03TnceZBPt1ptxUXG9yjoltaJH90phPtPkzZ+/goDxEnvk44vZc3gN95N/y dPDBzd25dRaIGG8HXV79rZi/dlafl0p1MuQoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hhF9ZdNPbOcsOYUckpaOvHyt8ZEgLIjpEm9B5lAlELFdcPwKLjyUpg7reJgALcRnlV Iwwp9wLW6Fvu9h1QSiUpaE8ayz41sZPeR2ewWMrkew1Kv3uz/G3aRMIPBBJ0FWYwEDq9 8Fqi6Qg9Za3PG2P+19qZwq8gbMf9wOJ+lagt4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a547fd7ae9049bcabf9d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:56:54 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a547fd7ae9049bcabf9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I've been using a Roland FC-300 for several years. I bought a 1010 but moved to the Roland the next day, so I can't compare the two really well, except to say the Roland is dead easy to program and the learning curve is almost non-existent. It's what you would expect from them. The build is excellent. There is a bit of Rolandeze involved i.e. some CC's are named (GM) rather than numbered. There is no computer editor that I'm aware of, unless you also have a VG system, which I don't. In patch mode, you can send mixed strings of midi commands (Notes ON/OFF, PC's, CC's in any order) on the press and release separately. Editing is easy on the unit with insert and delete functions and patches can be saved/copied to new locations. You can add 3 expression pedals or 3 FS-6's (for 6 more switches) or any combination of those. I think it's about the same weight as the 1010. No editor, but you can dump sysex through the USB port to midi-ox That said, I'd be much inclined to go for the Gordius, just for the portability, if I used it on gigs enough to justify the expense. k On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > Thanks Mark & Per. > The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does > the Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do? And how about > the Roland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the > time, but they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I > need, but if I can assign them in a way that I could get different > tonalities more would be better. > > > --20cf3054a547fd7ae9049bcabf9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
I've been using a Roland FC-300 for several years. I bought a 10= 10 but moved to the Roland the next day, so I can't compare the two rea= lly well, except to say the Roland is dead easy to program and the learning= curve is almost non-existent.
It's what you would expect from them. The build is excellent. There is = a bit of Rolandeze involved i.e. some CC's are named (GM) rather than n= umbered. There is no computer editor that I'm aware of, unless you also= have a VG system, which I don't.

In patch mode, you can send mixed strings of midi commands (Notes ON/OF= F, PC's, CC's in any order) on the press and release separately. Ed= iting is easy on the unit with insert and delete functions and patches can = be saved/copied to new locations. You can add 3 expression pedals or 3 FS-6= 's (for 6 more switches) or any combination of those.
I think it's about the same weight as the 1010.
No editor, but you c= an dump sysex through the USB port to midi-ox

That said, I'd be = much inclined to go for the Gordius, just for the portability, if I used it= on gigs enough to justify the expense.
k

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Ed Durb= row <edurb= row@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote:
Thanks Mark = & Per.
The Little Giant costs a lot= more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does the Rolls MP128 not do wh= at the Gordius and Behringer do?<= font face=3D"Helvetica">=A0And how about the Roland and Boss pedal switch u= nits? I see them used over here all the time, but they don't look very = portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need, but if I can assign th= em in a way that I could get different tonalities more would be better.



--20cf3054a547fd7ae9049bcabf9d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 20:20:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8BC183457; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h= message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=helpwantedproductions.com; b=pLJ9KBHuxv6WRRgMymoEytRPPJJFuuASdnUijqXD+PzkULsIr/WnL4eHZiw45 Y/lYBs3rermVlSJ1iNYfGHox9qNrme+EvpQTYCyxCM1KvCXNSge8W9clELE6qF6J +3UuATg0rIt+BBH7/655uuhZBGGiEtrprGiSTvkRPDdVlE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=helpwantedproductions.com; h=message-id:date:subject:from:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=helpwantedproductions.com; bh=oS+ON XwECmH7zcyG+Q30ulTljZU=; b=HPxWL0Fzrq9Imn9jDYiHORaUfgSL2QdIEtLFZ f2ezaONO+InZVQqP0RStAajFzUxXMGHG0ZKXzxJnJo4r6jiDrjCAyIVh9fRLBZDw ewFtVJMuIgnhlSiNww/zvpPSZ3wpvTqn8tzpYpUOrDJHkHLZnoZvr/42Z5hc1yr1 mykv64= Message-ID: <2351f53d39c9b65ba52da003896a5f05.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:20:21 -0800 Subject: FS: Arp 2600 w/CMS upgrades - $4500 US From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:20:22 +0000 (UTC) UPdated post: I have lowered the price considerably because the internal speakers are currently not working (a replacement set is $75 from Kevin L but I am betting it's a loose connection since they worked fine when I did the dem= o included below last month and all I did was move the ^%$#in thing. Everything works 100% from the 1/4" outputs (CMS installed). Sounds liek the wolf's balls (listen to the demo in my link below and that's with ONE internal speaker). I am willing to take $1000 Off this unit to sell it NOW. Please do not as= k for layaway or a lower price. I WILL consider the following items as partial trades: Tenori-On (prefer cheaper orange LED model actually). IPAD (basic wifi is fine, I don't need the 3G version) EH POG II Moog Voyager Rack mount edition (128 preset model is fine) Roland VG bass Unit or pickups (maybe Roland Jupiter 6) Modcan A modules especially CV Recorder or any sampling ones. I am asking $4500 CASH. Located in Phila PA and local pickups go to the top of the list. Will consider shipping on full prepayment (USPS MO preferred) and buyer pays all shipping packing fees and insurances. Full pics, link to video demo etc up at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/arp2600.htm Video Demo: http://daedsound.com/Salez/arp2600.rm Here is my original post. Again the price is now $4500. Use the extra $1= k to buy another synth, guitar, or life if you want :) Thanks! ------------------------------------------ I am selling my 1970s Greyface Arp 2600. In VGC with CMS audio path upgrades and extra work. FULLY working in great shape. Original Arp 2600 modular synthesizer. Greyface unit with original "moog" 4012 filer. When I bought this in the 90s it was in bad shape. I had CMS (THE top ARP 2600 authority in the country) go over everything from top t= o bottom and had them install a new CMS VCO, clean and lubricate all sliders, jacks, replace anything not 100%, etc. I also had the full audio path upgrade performed and had a new old stock speaker put in, 1/4" in and output jacks, extra multiples, and a new Powe= r supply upgrade. This thing is a MONSTER and a great player synth. Check out the CMS pages for what the Audio upgrade and features they perform are here: http://www.discretesynthesizers.com/arptronics/services.htm Cosmetically the tolex is worn but the case is solid and comes with a lid= . The front panel is about an 8/10 with no major scratches etc and it has a dedicated LFO mod installed under VCO 1 which could have been done to loo= k better but actually works quite well. (You can see the knobs and three outputs in the pic). I had CMS work on the spring reverb and it has a slightly different mod mix between the left and right channels which is cool for making things cleaner or deeper into space depending on how you plug in and out. I will take other pictures for for serious buyers Asking $5500 US for the 2600 with all upgrade$ and service (which cost a few thousand on their own) and the Kenton box. I REALLY REALLY do NOT want to ship this but for a quick and painless sal= e I will consider it if the buyer handles all costs. I imagine it will be expensive to ship to Europe mostly because of insurance and taxes but as long as I get our agreed price I will do it. Pick it up locally here in Phila PA and I will consider meeting nearby a= s well. NY and DC buyers very welcome. Do your research and see what this unit in this condition with CMS work is going for. --------------------------------------- NEW DAED SITE!! - Http://DaedSound.com DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Music and More at the Mothership: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 21:42:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E23A5183457; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jdcaYIBB94Cyw3X20ZopSxHUf7wDdnPvzMK+J8wK9f4=; b=fw+ACqt9zdbhpvKTFAy8HTlzgL0+ZkYFIG9ca92IzhMIu60KkLRtAG2qX9Xonc1hdK IlVrHNi+6ZiujjDJps5OuEFV85pPon2lF0Hy8Up/KrkELkLPCriprvjXKP9L/Grd0IEY vkS82fW5BtRlYfIl9js57+qnSp1PntY5yxcyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rhngRkPNPKacI9vh5QpgEHw4N4R+kIdoVe1ZjkOSJ42t5aJD9OTHrq0i410UHFKskD l4OUeXsLMBv4c00zHUpllR3bYUBlHXdNpBRofBqO1kLrQ8NRruBvqOLbkWVaYz+Egdvl xpCX4t566F0mzQPZeZkrQYGjFIrS1B3mmLHBc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:42:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Digitech PMC10 for sale! From: The Subversive Workshop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e645abf24cab45049bcc3bea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:42:58 +0000 (UTC) --0016e645abf24cab45049bcc3bea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, Jeff! Glad you like 'em! I'm so sorry that I haven't been back in touch from your previous contact, man. I'll get back with ya soon! If you know anyone interested in my PMC10 or Boss sampler, I will make them a DEAL! More soon! Jeff On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey Jeff, just wanted to tell you that I really dig your Moog Guitar stuff, > listening now, intense! thanks. > > http://www.mushmud.com/Music/Collection/Jeff-McLeod/My-Least-Favorite-Animal > > Jeff > > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, The Subversive Workshop < > subversiveworkshop@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, all... >> >> I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the power supply and programmer, that I >> would love to sell. It's in good shape and works well. I can provide photos, >> if needed, and possibly the original manual. >> >> I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply, original manual >> and a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). It's in good shape >> as well. >> >> I've taken very good care of both items. Contact me privately with any >> offers: >> >> subversiveworkshop@gmail.com >> >> I would prefer to do this via Paypal, and can ship in the continental >> United States only. I have 100% feedback on ebay, and have been trading >> there since 1999. If you would like to view this info, my username is >> KLORBG. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jeff McLeod >> >> -- >> -- >> www.jeffmcleod.net >> > > -- -- www.jeffmcleod.net --0016e645abf24cab45049bcc3bea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Jeff! =A0Glad you like 'em!

I'm so sorry= that I haven't been back in touch from your previous contact, man. I&#= 39;ll get back with ya soon! If you know anyone interested in my PMC10 or B= oss sampler, I will make them a DEAL!=A0

More soon!

Jeff

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Jeff, just wanted to tell you that I re= ally dig your Moog Guitar stuff, listening now, intense! thanks.
http://www.mushmud.com/Music/Collection/Jeff-McLeo= d/My-Least-Favorite-Animal

Jeff


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, The Subversive Workshop <subversiveworkshop@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all...

I've have a Digitech PMC-10, with the pow= er supply and programmer, that I would love to sell. It's in good shape= and works well. I can provide photos, if needed, and possibly the original= manual.

I also have a Boss Dr. Sample SP-303 with power supply,= original manual and a couple of memory cards (16mb and 64mb, I believe). I= t's in good shape as well.

I've taken very= good care of both items.=A0Contact me privately with any offers:


I wou= ld prefer to do this via Paypal, and can ship in the continental United Sta= tes only. I have 100% feedback on ebay, and have been trading there since 1= 999. If you would like to view this info, my username is KLORBG.

Thanks!

Jeff McLeod




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--0016e645abf24cab45049bcc3bea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:15:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0F03183461; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:15:39 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aa3cbd20-edb8-4325-bb7a-d3064ab48bbc_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.12.238] From: nat grant To: Subject: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:10:37 +1100 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2011 22:10:37.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[039EA6E0:01CBC7DD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) --_aa3cbd20-edb8-4325-bb7a-d3064ab48bbc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear loopers i signed up to this list a couple of months ago=2C and have been completely= overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that abounds here. so=2C= i have a question: i am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the free sound= cloud player which is very easy to embed onto any external page=2C and to h= ave play automatically when people open your page=2C which is nice. what i = would really like in addition to this is for my track to loop continuously= =2C as in=2C if i could just lift a loop straight from the looper in ableto= n onto soundcloud=2C then embed and have it play=2C and play=2C and play=2C= on my page (as opposed to manually playing/recording the loop several time= s to make a longer track before i export it). a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop=3D"true" to the htm= l code within the part=2C and i've messed with it heaps but it seem= s to just disable the player. from what i can see a few people have request= ed a 'loop' function from soundcloud=2C but not enough (yet) to make them p= ay attention.=20 so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that: -will let me upload files of any size and type? -will let me embed a customised player onto my blog (of any colour!) that w= ill play automatically and continuously? -will let people download the track straight from the blog player? OR for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from this functi= on=2C would you be prepared to go here: http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics/is_there_a_way_to_automatic= ally_loop_playback and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud people = to add a loop function to their player? many thanks =3D) nat grant. --------------------=20 Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums = --_aa3cbd20-edb8-4325-bb7a-d3064ab48bbc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dear loopers

i signed up to this list a couple of months ago=2C and = have been completely overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that= abounds here. so=2C i have a question:

i am in the process of setti= ng up a blog and have been using the free soundcloud player which is very e= asy to embed onto any external page=2C and to have play automatically when = people open your page=2C which is nice. what i would really like in additio= n to this is for my track to loop continuously=2C as in=2C if i could just = lift a loop straight from the looper in ableton onto soundcloud=2C then emb= ed and have it play=2C and play=2C and play=2C on my page (as opposed to ma= nually playing/recording the loop several times to make a longer track befo= re i export it).

a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding = loop=3D"true" to the html code within the <=3Bembed>=3B part=2C and i'v= e messed with it heaps but it seems to just disable the player. from what i= can see a few people have requested a 'loop' function from soundcloud=2C b= ut not enough (yet) to make them pay attention.

so i guess my quest= ion is: do any of you know of a hosting site that:
-will let me upload f= iles of any size and type?
-will let me embed a customised player onto m= y blog (of any colour!) that will play automatically and continuously?
-= will let people download the track straight from the blog player?

OR=

for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from thi= s function=2C would you be prepared to go here:

http://support.sound= cloud.com/soundcloud/topics/is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback
and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud p= eople to add a loop function to their player?


many thanks =3D)
nat grant.



--------------------
Natalie Grant= - M.Mus (Perf)
(percussion)
http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums=
http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums
http://www.soundcloud.com/na= tskyplaysdrums


= --_aa3cbd20-edb8-4325-bb7a-d3064ab48bbc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:29:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61514183464; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yUxnsQ7bJnPJ2FFxSLe9WQG35mOsglH/qMzktEYRoKs=; b=ks/SSCXTqnTDXeWZK3+ry1miVf02PfReJtXPKq2IOf4mxTmJZ7rKSD4pqWHa6rEdhz 6yGRInm4wbhUOt212d8cifElIeAV6YLVFJzJtI5PhddQFRNQTmF6DTw7gjbjISuIwzhj Zu4QnvOKSThAZ/+enUWIS0sVlR6u5mEKrq2JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/HUM5cqoizWqdXn/18zuE1KzU/pTs9mwuixw3zMe0+Qg+7hlIgVM4W7IsjoJbH5By 0DfZzqbxpS1hbZwJWZaYigRCdhW4/nIZig85Y+oCl+neQ26cH5AjBb4c9eu4gB3eiWnB jHT5jVTDoIzMcCCJp8R62dHR7VJTDde/F9Q7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:29:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi keith, can you configure the expression pedals per patch and not just global on the FC-300? can you send notes on/offs to different midi channels as well instead of just globally? (this is the disadvantage of the FCB1010) thanx Luis On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Keith Smith wrote: > Hi, > I've been using a Roland FC-300 for several years. I bought a 1010 but mo= ved > to the Roland the next day, so I can't compare the two really well, excep= t > to say the Roland is dead easy to program and the learning curve is almos= t > non-existent. > It's what you would expect from them. The build is excellent. There is a = bit > of Rolandeze involved i.e. some CC's are named (GM) rather than numbered. > There is no computer editor that I'm aware of, unless you also have a VG > system, which I don't. > > In patch mode, you can send mixed strings of midi commands (Notes ON/OFF, > PC's, CC's in any order) on the press and release separately. Editing is > easy on the unit with insert and delete functions and patches can be > saved/copied to new locations. You can add 3 expression pedals or 3 FS-6'= s > (for 6 more switches) or any combination of those. > I think it's about the same weight as the 1010. > No editor, but you can dump sysex through the USB port to midi-ox > > That said, I'd be much inclined to go for the Gordius, just for the > portability, if I used it on gigs enough to justify the expense. > k > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Ed Durbrow wro= te: >> >> Thanks Mark & Per. >> The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Doe= s >> the Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do?=A0And how abou= t the >> Roland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the ti= me, >> but they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need= , >> but if I can assign them in a way that I could get different tonalities = more >> would be better. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:30:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76119183464; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9whMCrlDyN9IBiH1iLpQqIb9QfXjVhEd3Ov2O4FGX1Q=; b=XpajH3vk59pi1k4n1aJem9/mj2M459snQ6DWgT0jGqrpNiRC3hp2N2UkYsJvynUXRx TeEbPpxo4feKlyl4A6eLRKU0WukW3UrxlzJf0M22WQmtIC08DhQxH2suuUfFEJFKlHXi ogFV0E7tW+ZwThygHV9V4knC/SLHVvOnftiUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZK3eQDM9uYKak1SoWX8p3Ri7GBVS0t1xywXRRqvxnipfwCNom2flAZ73ClcbCTT8pV HKusqyvdohBvbCXcyvIwZbzdDR8S/xc1Lf4ZgBnIfJuTEVp7DTJ0c54aX3zMSOF6qNnI fYmA7OR6Il6i+o2w2KNPO956JRx7+PD9qgFWg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:30:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c594da34d01b049bcce477 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:30:13 +0000 (UTC) --001636c594da34d01b049bcce477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 An advice from a former web designer (myself): most annoying things in pages are the background sounds, the minute you hear them you start to search for a button to turn the music off!! :-D -Petri- 2011/2/9 nat grant > dear loopers > > i signed up to this list a couple of months ago, and have been completely > overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that abounds here. so, i > have a question: > > i am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the free > soundcloud player which is very easy to embed onto any external page, and to > have play automatically when people open your page, which is nice. what i > would really like in addition to this is for my track to loop continuously, > as in, if i could just lift a loop straight from the looper in ableton onto > soundcloud, then embed and have it play, and play, and play, on my page (as > opposed to manually playing/recording the loop several times to make a > longer track before i export it). > > a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop="true" to the html > code within the part, and i've messed with it heaps but it seems to > just disable the player. from what i can see a few people have requested a > 'loop' function from soundcloud, but not enough (yet) to make them pay > attention. > > so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that: > -will let me upload files of any size and type? > -will let me embed a customised player onto my blog (of any colour!) that > will play automatically and continuously? > -will let people download the track straight from the blog player? > > OR > > for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from this > function, would you be prepared to go here: > > > http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics/is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback > > and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud people > to add a loop function to their player? > > > many thanks =) > > nat grant. > > > > -------------------- > Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) > (percussion) > http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums > http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums > http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --001636c594da34d01b049bcce477 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An advice from a former web designer (myself):
most annoying things in p= ages are the background sounds, the minute you hear them you start to searc= h for a button to turn the music off!!

:-D

-Petri-

2011/2/9 nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com&g= t;
dear loopers

i signed up to this list a couple of months ago, and ha= ve been completely overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that a= bounds here. so, i have a question:

i am in the process of setting u= p a blog and have been using the free soundcloud player which is very easy = to embed onto any external page, and to have play automatically when people= open your page, which is nice. what i would really like in addition to thi= s is for my track to loop continuously, as in, if i could just lift a loop = straight from the looper in ableton onto soundcloud, then embed and have it= play, and play, and play, on my page (as opposed to manually playing/recor= ding the loop several times to make a longer track before i export it).

a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop=3D"true&qu= ot; to the html code within the <embed> part, and i've messed wit= h it heaps but it seems to just disable the player. from what i can see a f= ew people have requested a 'loop' function from soundcloud, but not= enough (yet) to make them pay attention.

so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that:-will let me upload files of any size and type?
-will let me embed a c= ustomised player onto my blog (of any colour!) that will play automatically= and continuously?
-will let people download the track straight from the blog player?

O= R

for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from th= is function, would you be prepared to go here:

http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics= /is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback

and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundc= loud people to add a loop function to their player?


many thanks = =3D)

nat grant.





<= /div>



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http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--001636c594da34d01b049bcce477-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:35:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45360183462; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 6186.81969.bm@omp1019.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=sRF7UZCWuokXGmL62OXvoisVEZ/TLmkzoRayyoHHC4AdJDPVfTI0sEvbxUJajhWNRTaEeoE3thpBQMHbAFr0eyudHOiv8UW8fQx6d5JktbMvUQtwSVuvoVdICTyJjiKoftZEepY2yfAm12EL3ApSKHisyyFGB2ybJxpDjxXdJDM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297204519; bh=p7KCt5Z0A0oS1ILVM3/1V8FMDFU6n4ldHBaXld9SXR8=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=GvDcKTZrcoijwSq/kdizInAIQIQ9Wbm2GMHVhG9McAId5MtzIyvH6XUZCTpD+uZ7Yqm6cDcEKNFmzuyyJ54OnI9fIafHRsth/3CLdrIaib47zrEiQMT6XEyIxXjp1lyjN3D9qMh/GCfaME20sYyvnG8b4rBJvC8AIMrztxyio/4= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: m6M4yuMVM1mJyr8XATbElw8uAbBDFsO30ONRqi_TJTfYWoW AdXDSJ76uLZx.wb6Yzof28ytlOKfYW5l0gIo81rsIwPTmtJ0rt4y5YUQMw9Z RvknSr.nlSsWyHF7aqiBXE9.R97irtV4tsCPrwNiZBGARGyTWCHFuGYKbvPR DWRy7j93KnRjPvEloSXQKo6ojeu.otykfp7_5G4SiLDC7gUgyBMnGpNl2pYR XvNQ8fZ6Mupm7CRXBumx3TCFqx.HvGRtYCydRqrh99NzFAX_Mh97IdM45tRA faCx40LSn15sV_P7Eko5t X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23-1069733538 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:35:13 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:35:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23-1069733538 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Virtually everyone has stopped autostart players now, they just annoy people - Bandcamp is the best site for widgets Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:30, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > An advice from a former web designer (myself): > most annoying things in pages are the background sounds, the minute > you hear them you start to search for a button to turn the music off!! > > :-D > > -Petri- > > 2011/2/9 nat grant > dear loopers > > i signed up to this list a couple of months ago, and have been > completely overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that > abounds here. so, i have a question: > > i am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the > free soundcloud player which is very easy to embed onto any > external page, and to have play automatically when people open your > page, which is nice. what i would really like in addition to this > is for my track to loop continuously, as in, if i could just lift a > loop straight from the looper in ableton onto soundcloud, then > embed and have it play, and play, and play, on my page (as opposed > to manually playing/recording the loop several times to make a > longer track before i export it). > > a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop="true" to > the html code within the part, and i've messed with it > heaps but it seems to just disable the player. from what i can see > a few people have requested a 'loop' function from soundcloud, but > not enough (yet) to make them pay attention. > > so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that: > -will let me upload files of any size and type? > -will let me embed a customised player onto my blog (of any > colour!) that will play automatically and continuously? > -will let people download the track straight from the blog player? > > OR > > for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from > this function, would you be prepared to go here: > > http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics/ > is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback > > and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud > people to add a loop function to their player? > > > many thanks =) > > nat grant. > > > > -------------------- > Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) > (percussion) > http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums > http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums > http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums > > > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- > --Apple-Mail-23-1069733538 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Virtually everyone has stopped autostart players now, they just annoy = people - Bandcamp is the best site for widgets

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 8 Feb 2011, = at 22:30, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

An advice = from a former web designer (myself):
most annoying things in pages = are the background sounds, the minute you hear them you start to search = for a button to turn the music off!!

:-D

-Petri-

=
2011/2/9 nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com<= /a>>
dear loopers

i signed up to this list a couple of = months ago, and have been completely overwhelmed by the incredible = amount of knowledge that abounds here. so, i have a question:

i = am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the free = soundcloud player which is very easy to embed onto any external page, = and to have play automatically when people open your page, which is = nice. what i would really like in addition to this is for my track to = loop continuously, as in, if i could just lift a loop straight from the = looper in ableton onto soundcloud, then embed and have it play, and = play, and play, on my page (as opposed to manually playing/recording the = loop several times to make a longer track before i export it).

a = lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop=3D"true" to the = html code within the <embed> part, and i've messed with it heaps = but it seems to just disable the player. from what i can see a few = people have requested a 'loop' function from soundcloud, but not enough = (yet) to make them pay attention.

so i guess my question is: do = any of you know of a hosting site that:
-will let me upload files of = any size and type?
-will let me embed a customised player onto my = blog (of any colour!) that will play automatically and continuously?
= -will let people download the track straight from the blog = player?

OR

for those of you who use soundcloud and would = also benefit from this function, would you be prepared to go = here:

http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics/is_there= _a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback

and either respond or = 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud people to add a loop = function to their player?


many thanks =3D)

nat = grant.



=

=



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
= ---------------------------------------------------
"Only become = professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert = Fripp-
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"Some = people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." = -Charles Bukowski-


= --Apple-Mail-23-1069733538-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:39:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0E04183476; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=98bbGHD1H8RfqzozmoCW/Sv5SUy0VTzFvGYVdM7vh5o=; b=MKMCKsQxZt1CB/3WGqkvVHhiDwWBpuLgpGrrLymWZU71lcwg8wLj6Lzar0HASsiR3o 7b1yxeXlLDAE4EIga9s57n+IXf/xV5TQLPQB+4Q6ksEUR1oXiDoLQox2pZKUfXRZyyNl /2BqpLzYIWPU47A2ATAjEa3m8GDfwr76ReXXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M4Yn8Yid3oEekWUp8nBRPRNZnjNcQKsaNDDDz0VOoZpvRKjC6IIjowny3x877imj2E m0Nmr4qKOZBCWSFWOpQHbVxI6OnqaQtiJkTmGxzCnpRu179BpowhREogu6YMTPiLO/PV Suz4QsJ2r4ppK2HiXPByc5dV2lEuJcs5KANk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:38:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043449ee587de049bcd02d7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:39:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043449ee587de049bcd02d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm so with Matt on this one - music asks to be heard, not commands! :-D 2011/2/9 Matt Stevens > Virtually everyone has stopped autostart players now, they just annoy > people - Bandcamp is the best site for widgets > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:30, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > An advice from a former web designer (myself): > most annoying things in pages are the background sounds, the minute you > hear them you start to search for a button to turn the music off!! > > :-D > > -Petri- > > 2011/2/9 nat grant > >> dear loopers >> >> i signed up to this list a couple of months ago, and have been completely >> overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that abounds here. so, i >> have a question: >> >> i am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the free >> soundcloud player which is very easy to embed onto any external page, and to >> have play automatically when people open your page, which is nice. what i >> would really like in addition to this is for my track to loop continuously, >> as in, if i could just lift a loop straight from the looper in ableton onto >> soundcloud, then embed and have it play, and play, and play, on my page (as >> opposed to manually playing/recording the loop several times to make a >> longer track before i export it). >> >> a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop="true" to the html >> code within the part, and i've messed with it heaps but it seems to >> just disable the player. from what i can see a few people have requested a >> 'loop' function from soundcloud, but not enough (yet) to make them pay >> attention. >> >> so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that: >> -will let me upload files of any size and type? >> -will let me embed a customised player onto my blog (of any colour!) that >> will play automatically and continuously? >> -will let people download the track straight from the blog player? >> >> OR >> >> for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from this >> function, would you be prepared to go here: >> >> >> http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topics/is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback >> >> and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the soundcloud people >> to add a loop function to their player? >> >> >> many thanks =) >> >> nat grant. >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) >> (percussion) >> http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums >> http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums >> http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums >> >> >> > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3043449ee587de049bcd02d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm so with Matt on this one - music asks to be heard, not commands! :-= D

2011/2/9 Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@= btinternet.com>
Virtually everyone has stopped autostart players now, they just annoy peopl= e - Bandcamp is the best site for widgets

On 8 Feb 2011, at 22:30, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
An advice from a former web designer (myself= ):
most annoying things in pages are the background sounds, the minute you hea= r them you start to search for a button to turn the music off!!

:-D<= br>
-Petri-

2011/2/9 nat grant <natskyplaysdrums@hotmail.com>
dear loope= rs

i signed up to this list a couple of months ago, and have been co= mpletely overwhelmed by the incredible amount of knowledge that abounds her= e. so, i have a question:

i am in the process of setting up a blog and have been using the free s= oundcloud player which is very easy to embed onto any external page, and to= have play automatically when people open your page, which is nice. what i = would really like in addition to this is for my track to loop continuously,= as in, if i could just lift a loop straight from the looper in ableton ont= o soundcloud, then embed and have it play, and play, and play, on my page (= as opposed to manually playing/recording the loop several times to make a l= onger track before i export it).

a lot of (non soundcloud) forums suggestion adding loop=3D"true&q= uot; to the html code within the <embed> part, and i've messed wi= th it heaps but it seems to just disable the player. from what i can see a = few people have requested a 'loop' function from soundcloud, but no= t enough (yet) to make them pay attention.

so i guess my question is: do any of you know of a hosting site that:<= br>-will let me upload files of any size and type?
-will let me embed a = customised player onto my blog (of any colour!) that will play automaticall= y and continuously?
-will let people download the track straight from the blog player?

= OR

for those of you who use soundcloud and would also benefit from t= his function, would you be prepared to go here:

http://support.soundcloud.com/soundcloud/topic= s/is_there_a_way_to_automatically_loop_playback

and either respond or 'like' to help put pressure on the sound= cloud people to add a loop function to their player?


many thanks= =3D)

nat grant.





=



--
Petri Lahtinen http://www.petri= lahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrila= htinen
http://twitt= er.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
--------------= -------------------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Rober= t Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"So= me people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -= Charles Bukowski-



=

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahti= nen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3043449ee587de049bcd02d7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 22:44:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F0A183462; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8391e886-e123-4b10-bef9-d4642534670f_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.12.238] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:44:24 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2011 22:44:24.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBF5FAA0:01CBC7E1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:44:25 +0000 (UTC) --_8391e886-e123-4b10-bef9-d4642534670f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey guys=2C i appreciate your opinions re:autostart but i posted because i'm really aft= er a player that loops for a very specific blog project where a short loop = is in the foreground=2C not the background=2C with good reason. thanks =3D) --------------------=20 Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums = --_8391e886-e123-4b10-bef9-d4642534670f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey guys=2C

i appreciate your opinions re:autostart but i posted bec= ause i'm really after a player that loops for a very specific blog project = where a short loop is in the foreground=2C not the background=2C with good = reason. thanks

=3D)

--------------------
Natalie Gra= nt - M.Mus (Perf)
(percussion)
http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdru= ms
http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums
http://www.soundcloud.com/= natskyplaysdrums





= --_8391e886-e123-4b10-bef9-d4642534670f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:27:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA257183473; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zmoeWbSREYsI5Yd3sp89cdYqH1LEsJj0Jd7V6GAv9Yo=; b=nWkcBh0GdP7ap1yEgJBGc4+ck9RzMjTtJI17afIH6ZFq9Gcrqy+lCHejIrsJwzhIcl 4Cxh4totWahC+hR58ReJhO8FtsQrCfjqrc8Ye4xsCmMhScTxut6WEWbbUz0PE6BmClVx 5fUhCAU0Atm22M4j2M0JzN8cjv8SI4bZceOOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=owcxogpqK6fl++MGttCUgwGgo5+vXufs3I6NX6jzeuHcrmVv6ODNwaKi37WPio6KGe Vrsntmz710TH18SFejc3pFnTaLhac1L83v74/RbJXSoDl2wqPVlTVxx/uZlXcU3xZCyp VwZrF9YsEg7kZ6lUNbqn7Taa7CwBC1gmiKEQI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:27:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nat, How's life? :) Are you thinking of a Wordpress blog? I can recommend it, you have access to many plugins and is the current blog standard wordwide. I quickly checked the plugin library and found this one, an mp3 looper. Haven't tested it myself http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/audio-player/ Let me know if you need any help. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:31:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7417918347E; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zcpiLha2ydKkLeJN4F9KK+MaIMJDJaO02IEiZwYm9PE=; b=ivA2qDtuwfWDDjVeTx7pYRHOVj4uCT3PA520OowCTdUgLfBViBFb//W1DGKtghBkej asNHija5MOUqWKqD+B2Yhd9+Ci6ycq8gbhBGbjEVuAuv+jZwrjIf0u/VK2WXhlzKl/HK L9+r0dPkv9Pj8MYpUJthQcIDURbUHVwgJ5DJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rMwwE/nsq81sQGqQLy32XXREh/aZq1KuPrI7NKTVwvzMoe3Vctb3Jxkrbkxbag66QN +QY3LTpIfkZRyxbbN/LnGFEz1VyhESY7/e+v3wXEjgrnD3vHW8ahvdeng/ZGGdvWel4y ECRauSiV0rDb3qtDSlz7jgfSJQppitGBugG3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a7bc210bfa049bcdbf51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:31:25 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a7bc210bfa049bcdbf51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Luis -I enjoy your posts. Yes. I meant to mention that. Each Patch carries the ability to re-define the Exp pedals, the on-board Ctrl switches, each of the Extension pedals/switches and the Amp Ctrl outs. The Ctrl switches can send command strings, too. The strings from Patch or Ctrl switches can contain commands sent on any or mixed channels, and the exp pedals can be assigned to any channel by any patch. Alternatively Ctrl switches (on or off board) can be simply assigned to a single midi command and configured as latching or momentary. Also the Patch can be given a name (up to about 16 characters) which displays until the next patch is pressed. Heh, at least you know where you've been. Now, as I said, it's easy to program, (no manual required -it's almost interrogative), but all this control means it's a long trip (lots of presses) through all the parameters. If you're getting old and fat like me, it's better to get it off the floor for this job ;) So, you'll want to think long and hard first, set up your first patch with as many common elements as possible completed and tested, then copy it to as many locations as necessary and then make the name changes and alterations to the rest of the set -if you get what I mean. Best download the manual at http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/1810998/FC-300_e2.pdf I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is a whole design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific. Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can match it. Per? best, Keith On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Hi keith, > can you configure the expression pedals per patch and not just global > on the FC-300? > can you send notes on/offs to different midi channels as well instead > of just globally? > (this is the disadvantage of the FCB1010) > thanx > Luis > > --001636c5a7bc210bfa049bcdbf51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luis -I enjoy your posts.

Yes. I meant to mention that.
Each P= atch carries the=A0 ability to re-define the Exp pedals, the on-board Ctrl = switches, each of the Extension pedals/switches and the Amp Ctrl outs.
The Ctrl switches can send command strings, too.
The strings from Patch = or Ctrl switches can contain commands sent on any or mixed channels, and th= e exp pedals can be assigned to any channel by any patch.
Alternatively = Ctrl switches (on or off board) can be simply assigned to a single midi com= mand and configured as latching or momentary.
Also the Patch can be given a name (up to about 16 characters) which displa= ys until the next patch is pressed. Heh, at least you know where you've= been.

Now, as I said, it's easy to program, (no manual required= -it's almost interrogative),=A0 but all this control means it's a = long trip (lots of presses) through all the parameters. If you're getti= ng old and fat like me, it's better to get it off the floor for this jo= b ;)=A0=A0 So, you'll want to think long and hard first, set up your fi= rst patch with as many common elements as possible completed and tested, th= en copy it to as many locations as necessary and then make the name changes= and alterations to the rest of the set -if you get what I mean.

Best download the manual at http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/ma= nuals/res/1810998/FC-300_e2.pdf
I've never understood why this h= asn't been more popular. It is a whole design generation newer than the= 1010, which is getting pretty old.
I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific.

Gee, ha= ving gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can match it= . Per?

best,
Keith

=A0

O= n Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
Hi keith,
can you configure the expression pedals per patch and not just global
on the FC-300?
can you send notes on/offs to different midi channels as well instead
of just globally?
(this is the disadvantage of the FCB1010)
thanx
Luis


--001636c5a7bc210bfa049bcdbf51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:33:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A79A183480; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u7f2GzinQnwFqfmlskjCzc1Btf5EC/DR2ALxdpAwgyM=; b=SnxNeEgR6qbrxy61q7U8pOKDswnxNfsoVWgZPXyYIxh8SRChYHUH0afXw0l+3mTBEO nQW49bYYmszyEUVkLHo53jUFDCGv6Dqj9AN8a3LqTJvUBtVyLDaernIlMe4mSfpJDSmd jNTixSjh9NAHO4RfJGfXO2P3fDqrXKkCC6Qww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Q9oBEw4yFpVI3TcLhBftl5Teyd4GWeWrnfxQFKFarKinxgEP0sqx0QXEXdp2QgznFy R0PYqhxMxDCd/Mi4619E3m7HrMFax+xy0LwrdBqU2MowAm/cJ8d0Znf2DXFs7dmw04le wlEzV1UgQkgYmXFSQDWDwtJE0x4y8fYDgaxbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-aPivD.A.0bD.8KdUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi bro ;-) I still have a FC-300 but don't use it. It's a great MFC: build like a tank, very flexible but different than a 1010. In "patch mode", you can configure exp pedals per patch. I would recommend to check the manual, http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/om.cfm?PRODUCT=FC-300 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:36:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8B50183483; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=INe66P+9JAWf4htzwycNQtd+YQRuwkq7g5ZURffR3Oc=; b=pP/3I9loy0ZETMnQuGPmvdMQ21W9rYSPbhkhmm1VP3Z/iaYLPmc6yyHlMAG/v3bUNH Ubq7bKDjSfmtOYSJTWtj2B5Zrm9XFHoWVIt5sLwPWzEvjXx82Va+q6Cyh3Kgt1YRNkBp 5Nd1yWqekbrP6Z++/vJvEE1qVXJE6JU+jWovU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SrUjvcC5GznceP1iyxQs6ks6aGp3eR4SOitQBao25cwj6cQYVwofo0OEJnqNWGkpWl YLAm4aQUHHjvcNRr+45SHn7Koo9ifduVhc7aW9M9Ac8OfXH7SP+Qx1Xokd2ymsZGcYDX KMajNZCRow6MgR7c8cyhT2dflWcvlwWE40DNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:36:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-GCkCB.A.RlD.3NdUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:36:23 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is a whole > design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. > I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific. > > Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can > match it. Per? I own both but the Gordius definitely wins in terms of features. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:41:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C24D183479; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IpzJlsHA4shnPvv66kYY52w7dubD8/A0UOiWd/s00H8=; b=HKxV7id32mdFtikHeooqowOn1l5IIvxNqMWPojw/R6Hwy3Y6hOBrqAsCcrR5WQhbC/ CzrmPmFpBHRdPjXSWOHRbtrHstwmIh6OCabqV6qeLGfzyl6L2hJbRIMODsM945RoEEP6 jnm7QL/xEpN0jS455wMUfUgc8krRLFvlDQnEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GjdbbNNfjZcuOwTHPOrI7VJC3WHHBWrY6cukidhaafg32lOtfntBy4fs6LRjI1LKOj gUnz+tWtyFaBDr3eJmYxFKw3qQJu86+/JzmkdZytmdeDLX/lGIZyvKyEMJHs/c9XsHwF fsWfQazRp7X0k3Ed197CBeagXsI2W5y7eJigg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:41:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433dfe27563c049bcde226 Resent-Message-ID: <-kn4LC.A.zwD.aSdUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:41:15 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433dfe27563c049bcde226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Sjaak, Would you care to expand on that a bit? I'm curious. Thanks, k On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > > I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is a whole > > design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. > > I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific. > > > > Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can > > match it. Per? > > I own both but the Gordius definitely wins in terms of features. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > --20cf30433dfe27563c049bcde226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sjaak,
Would you care to expand on that a bit? I'm curious.
Th= anks,
k

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:36 PM= , Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Keith Smith <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is= a whole
> design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. > I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific.
>
> Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius = can
> match it. Per?

I own both but the Gordius definitely wins in terms of features.

--20cf30433dfe27563c049bcde226-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:51:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCEB2183484; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UpRjoAOx2dUzKNt7oskJnrA/R984JipcnbpGBeJNBnw=; b=wrxm2FaTzP+ElAA8rwVaqaJMkqFEW+IDWTFDotIfLhG18rTT3WCPebMskTJfu98UBA cGKoDsyrqlCPvSxspe8u/kqMmQF7AAVslwW3bibQUOLfXWzNAlYcydMteI46yZprbeLL 619MgPHLRT6v5j1/72pxiAFkFL928PaQ9GTjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cUPO4oZhSJrtQ3k/gTundMQDTgw02XV1GfSGP3OlprdrKdRaqWtjTreVeRtkzQMkkA a86W+tliRBDfCXd3rr4S2DeOEZPMLTQq3wVNtamV2uw1mMk/OohYs27rCttjgWKpJtXi LxTSb0EuEGamsXnVXQEm19pKh45C5DwMLEEv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:51:20 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > Best download the manual at > http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/1810998/FC-300_e2.pdf > I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is a whole > design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. > I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific. > > Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can > match it. Per? I just read the FC-300 manual and think the Gordius is much more useful. At least for me. I won't go into much details, but on the Gordius you can set up almost any switch/pedal to send any type of MIDI event. I.e. a fully modular MIDI foot controller! That makes it a future proof investment since you can keep using it to control any kind of hardware and software you may come to use further down the road. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 8 23:59:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B206B18348E; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/AzgRC31uXVYaVpHqLIykO0nPhYplN8Ibnl5HazFw2A=; b=GHrFz7cyMA5g56YrOaoo770g9Q6ZJl4oJW16PW2cA+d7ruKAxw3dZUt4V+4Xy7TgTR TYX93T6z71xXvFMaWoXCpPpUMwy159bccxGz5QO9QlCPU2NZoMpPhh+Yjj3WjCKPI6p7 OSOqxlq3T/8Mw+wMTSc7vDP+I7FNHpUlXFggU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=diWFg3l1qPSxHJxqmsYV478/G3JXMzYcWA4a5HCK5WoNQyikRiR0JSaJu+N/yIoZwX vrtJ0+7/yqlKiWhbDMWCem6JkWBjoh3AXfm2lHngt0EzzWt61G9figr7OTEopc6S/GVn DfzCzxSxiSpagxANXkPphksb79ro5s5WiDFAs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:59:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:59:20 +0000 (UTC) thanx guys,so i take it the FC-200 can do the same,yeah? im just wondering which one of these can control 2 EDPs at best,assigning notes ons and offs on different midi chanels and the exp pedals as well. Luis On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Keith Smith wrote: >> I've never understood why this hasn't been more popular. It is a whole >> design generation newer than the 1010, which is getting pretty old. >> I guess folks are inclined to think it might be VG-specific. >> >> Gee, having gone through all of this, I have to wonder if the Gordius can >> match it. Per? > > I own both but the Gordius definitely wins in terms of features. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 00:01:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D239418348D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Pl83hnWOYigM2CBmtpnOR6X45m5EeyHEn7QOgvv5CyA=; b=Ptou7LLrIvoQ004xUd4dhMrPfZHW6cX6IU40Kb02AquEvfG/AvxI3IWaeBe3fqfMvh hEQXi0ufRYBbDk3ErzK2xQUpveIaXvTUTC1JQuJ+162E3Jc/Fm/0YVQN5QCPmJW6kOlE O8OEwy4E7vTPdWd6wKsGlVex6wtJJbGEIvaRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wjEU7r/0d205fRAews2O9rGoM+m51WdUT487usdZuOg2AA77SFG8yqJRcTV8s69Qcx MLlMbs+HijclgDyFOZ/dsMqs70lKTxmn6AR/OHfHTRnGCcg9Obb5WcMelRQP6LfXK7U/ izOpzPTdPQUlutdg0ikRqvgwPedFKMnMx969s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:01:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:01:32 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I just read the FC-300 manual and think the Gordius is much more > useful. At least for me. I won't go into much details, but on the > Gordius you can set up almost any switch/pedal to send any type of > MIDI event. I.e. a fully modular MIDI foot controller! That makes it a > future proof investment since you can keep using it to control any > kind of hardware and software you may come to use further down the > road. Yep, I agree! Btw: you can also use the FC-300 and the Gordius together. I will comment on both as soon as I have more time than a few minutes ;-) Stay tuned. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 00:09:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE4661834A5; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:09:43 +0900 Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 Thread-Index: AcvH7abPp+etJWyvRrmOieyH/R3o9w== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3380087384_8881811" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:09:48 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3380087384_8881811 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Well, I was going to mention the FC-300 (of which I=B9m also a user) but Kevi= n just did a wonderful job below of encapsulating everything I wanted to say. So, I=B9ll just leave it at: the FC-300 is a great box; not quite as fully featured as the Gordius, but kicks the 1010=B9s butt all over town (it=B9s a little smaller too, but not much). --m. On 2/9/11 4:56 AM, "Keith Smith" wrote: > Hi, > I've been using a Roland FC-300 for several years. I bought a 1010 but mo= ved > to the Roland the next day, so I can't compare the two really well, excep= t to > say the Roland is dead easy to program and the learning curve is almost > non-existent. > It's what you would expect from them. The build is excellent. There is a = bit > of Rolandeze involved i.e. some CC's are named (GM) rather than numbered. > There is no computer editor that I'm aware of, unless you also have a VG > system, which I don't. >=20 > In patch mode, you can send mixed strings of midi commands (Notes ON/OFF, > PC's, CC's in any order) on the press and release separately. Editing is = easy > on the unit with insert and delete functions and patches can be saved/cop= ied > to new locations. You can add 3 expression pedals or 3 FS-6's (for 6 more > switches) or any combination of those. > I think it's about the same weight as the 1010. > No editor, but you can dump sysex through the USB port to midi-ox >=20 > That said, I'd be much inclined to go for the Gordius, just for the > portability, if I used it on gigs enough to justify the expense. > k >=20 > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Ed Durbrow wro= te: >> Thanks Mark & Per. >> The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Doe= s the >> Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do?=A0And how about the >> Roland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the ti= me, >> but they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need= , but >> if I can assign them in a way that I could get different tonalities more >> would be better. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 --B_3380087384_8881811 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Well, I was g= oing to mention the FC-300 (of which I’m also a user) but Kevin just d= id a wonderful job below of encapsulating everything I wanted to say.

So, I’ll just leave it at: the FC-300 is a great box; not quite as fu= lly featured as the Gordius, but kicks the 1010’s butt all over town (= it’s a little smaller too, but not much).

    --m.

On 2/9/11 4:56 AM, "Keith Smith" <kahsmith@gmail.com> wrote= :

Hi,
I've been using a Roland FC-300 for several years. I bought a 1010 but move= d to the Roland the next day, so I can't compare the two really well, except= to say the Roland is dead easy to program and the learning curve is almost = non-existent.
It's what you would expect from them. The build is excellent. There is a bi= t of Rolandeze involved i.e. some CC's are named (GM) rather than numbered. = There is no computer editor that I'm aware of, unless you also have a VG sys= tem, which I don't.

In patch mode, you can send mixed strings of midi commands (Notes ON/OFF, P= C's, CC's in any order) on the press and release separately. Editing is easy= on the unit with insert and delete functions and patches can be saved/copie= d to new locations. You can add 3 expression pedals or 3 FS-6's (for 6 more = switches) or any combination of those.
I think it's about the same weight as the 1010.
No editor, but you can dump sysex through the USB port to midi-ox

That said, I'd be much inclined to go for the Gordius, just for the portabi= lity, if I used it on gigs enough to justify the expense.
k

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Ed Durbrow <edurbrow@sea.plala.or.jp>= wrote:
Thanks Mark & Per.
The Little Giant costs a lot more than a Behringer, that's for sure. Does t= he Rolls MP128 not do what the Gordius and Behringer do?=A0And how about the R= oland and Boss pedal switch units? I see them used over here all the time, b= ut they don't look very portable. I'm not sure how many switches I need, but= if I can assign them in a way that I could get different tonalities more wo= uld be better.




--B_3380087384_8881811-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 00:13:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 962131834AC; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vZkgMCs7LSZhqJ71lO7kBA92oCU9rsl7VPMydlXlP6Y=; b=uFWUJcSKARzhKl4ATrHvTjyUTAKjGD9YI4BDKlnBPeTVTLOGtDzkZnG1aM98MnRQEe 3ER7FkAmtn8U5u3f1wu8oOZC47wjnr3S9vofcqfqXWt9VUEBABFPu1s8dKebU1bVDZ1m 5h9Nj12gwzeZnMp8nnrl56Q7Kzr21686l/8Kg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uSBcroalMg/onBe3euSjK5TZtfRTq18evuTeHabBYqrcz2VXCcw2gBIHBdSkzwret9 BTkqPBAZF6QKYReh3z8W1gbwkBPaf2D+UPaaHoaFtaU0Q8PmKvkhDgcSMSB93Hi7Wjql 2Py9YEZxhgpnuzH/jbZ7hBNgH05PCGProfysw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ad01d741eb049bce5585 Resent-Message-ID: <17_TGC.A.B1E.twdUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:13:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ad01d741eb049bce5585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > thanx guys,so i take it the FC-200 can do the same,yeah? > im just wondering which one of these can control 2 EDPs at > best,assigning notes ons and offs on different midi chanels and the > exp pedals as well. > Luis > Hmm. I just had a quick look at the 200 manual. It looks like a very different animal from the 300 -more like a 1010 no patch mode, and that's where the flexibility is Keith --20cf3054ad01d741eb049bce5585 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
thanx guys,so i t= ake it the FC-200 can do the same,yeah?
im just wondering which one of these can control 2 EDPs at
best,assigning notes ons and offs on different midi chanels and the
exp pedals as well.
Luis

Hmm. I just had a quick look at the 200 manu= al. It looks like a very=20 different animal from the 300
=A0-more like a 1010
no patch mode, and= that's where the flexibility is

Keith
--20cf3054ad01d741eb049bce5585-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 00:22:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A2B1834B6; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:22:41 +0900 Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 Thread-Index: AcvH73aJhsPoxvuGS/ClhjNy92X8sg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:22:44 +0000 (UTC) On 2/9/11 8:51 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > I just read the FC-300 manual and think the Gordius is much more > useful. At least for me. I won't go into much details, but on the > Gordius you can set up almost any switch/pedal to send any type of > MIDI event. I.e. a fully modular MIDI foot controller! Per, I'll agree that the Gordius is more advanced than the FC-300, but I was under the impression that the Gordius' main leg-up is the ability to send timed commands synced to MIDI clock. Essentially, you're sending MIDI Macros rather than just commands, which is extremely cool. However, with the FC-300, you can send pretty much any type of MIDI event (PC, CC, Notes, MMC, NRPN, SysEx, and even nearly-useless-for-foot-controller data like poly-aftertouch, FWIW). I'm just curious what data type -- Clock notwithstanding -- the Gordius is able to send that the FC-300 cannot? --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 01:42:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DCEA183487; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=8DrADqM/g2LNO5eAkpRTaWNF0oRlm9MRZzoUZNv2oFY=; b=h/uCh+spUGdHsa20hpdx8CSrKDpGgGx2R5XkUb/pgyRjseBZenc82sPRpjL2mJGV7y fboMD3Sz/y8NTrNrg+rRh4TFXV3jqNwGc3H3IGgEEdJ56kFrY8ky/BeQ0vrWz/XoKLhE t22nvcNr+tapuCMjBE0tq9WKSJ8WAK+8QcWgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=g4OG/+47ujrNMSWvb4nqOxswMrjDT/hUaMh0tIP2lH5ERuhxlUtJ/sAwCyjj1cDrny Nqj2hzQu/kbc+pkphkvLLUl7Da88cImJdiekP0cpjPKFVdBwqUoAIuYlV9yCtfKXYu+t R8jHoyFn1mzEZWeT9v+Yn0Gtt5L3gF7ScWdRA= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1066535663 Subject: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:42:07 -0500 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:42:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1066535663 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from = Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was = released in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it = was an easy choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise = I'll give you guys a break for a bit:) =20 http://vimeo.com/19727896 If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen at: = http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass -Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-1--1066535663 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I finished my live looping = performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from Vespertine. I needed to do = something from the 00's, Vespertine was released in 2001 and probably my = favorite album from that decade so it was an easy choice. 2010's are = gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give you guys a break for = a bit:)
 
If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers = can be seen at: http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmba= ss

-Todd = Matthews




= --Apple-Mail-1--1066535663-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 01:47:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAAE2183482; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Thread-Index: AcvH+0VMArW2HwM6RE2TbT/FFHttmg== Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:46:45 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 01:47:53.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E0EAD50:01CBC7FB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Wish those vimeos would open with iphone!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 01:56:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42BDE183487; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=62hPNct7AAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=yloJjqqgvruJKeA8lUcA:9 a=duYVUdEffWZKi64tNfwA:7 a=tOHSlg4M-ZueJReaVJRzQ-SWZlYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:56:09 -0800 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 01:56:12 +0000 (UTC) I have an FC-300 too. I got it when I bought my VG99. I hardly ever use it though. If anyone is interested. I'll probably be posting an ad for it to Ebay sometime soon. Cheers, Ted On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi bro ;-) > I still have a FC-300 but don't use it. It's a great MFC: build like a > tank, very flexible but different than a 1010. In "patch mode", you > can configure exp pedals per patch. I would recommend to check the > manual, http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/om.cfm?PRODUCT=FC-300 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:01:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5B1318348A; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oM4h8bL2QJjQ4/6YLVTi9wK6NNHdDJxQxXY59LrKunI=; b=AhprzFSZBjiiUWImulbDqtOwOUqAPC1cAfJkHMM7O7Hl4hi1xQbMaINISqT2S+Sye6 4T9IWJ0TZQDp9S8sIWhuOn2fday+02/01eog7qGadXfhq0HwoWTID5dXLLHqTxhahT6L 9q9zE+Z/FNZRpGfnK6k6MxIobPeXBdByJo554= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w5lZ006FNlour3TojLoDOM+2QfQ7r51kduHVe6650tKT0X0Zv2azKIgNjvndNA5lxU aUSdNXGL/vX+IJJKGf6HulYV6RdI55B8YkhdZf+I0JtUmE0b/Q1F/JYdfdsGhO6Zyr3m J97SiIeV1CQy75J4rVvVnOqbjfEs7uNx0ordE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:01:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Superb! Just awesome, loved every minute of it. Bravo Todd! On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from > Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was releas= ed > in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was an easy > choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give yo= u > guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen > at:=A0http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > -Todd Matthews > > > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:02:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BF9E183492; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=r7rabjwVcqNrb5bbtws++33au7fbjq5BJN5nQCZMzI8=; b=jRxkBMhQ85llxWT/4qsiBm2/bNQ2jQa3NnL4LxtTMpCBbpIiUD0Ft6ITzOML1Gh4OR 2jnvTOS3s5Ueb/Jbycafuo4uT18z92BfWOEzSaJ34JCEKtW8hI8dWf5DK7slht9X/Y3q 7sNi20WyVlidnj7mdOUkWPJKaeJvA+58J+T4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aREkeH6vsq8GGpcgdMzjbPgi3VTYf0zhsX0LV2OWk4CcT5NA77r9YvDlX4z8NU4e81 4DDVkTk8oTH6nlpMvj7yoE/iqYhjJ/kzw2847Phyjqb3tpLq/y7IUOFa+wbk10Ecp9Oc Q4wqL/WSEs9nTvEVxGEMp6IIWg3qtaz0Za0fU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 03:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:02:54 +0000 (UTC) why Ted? On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:56 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > I have an FC-300 too. > > I got it when I bought my VG99. > > I hardly ever use it though. > > If anyone is interested. > > I'll probably be posting an ad for it to Ebay sometime soon. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > >> Hi bro ;-) >> I still have a FC-300 but don't use it. It's a great MFC: build like a >> tank, very flexible but different than a 1010. In "patch mode", you >> can configure exp pedals per patch. I would recommend to check the >> manual, http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/om.cfm?PRODUCT=3DFC-3= 00 >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:05:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34D9618348C; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=G1nmC2Y59J4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=Jn8sbAEiV94TfutKviAA:9 a=kjmKzSsAE8Vs0eiFEcoEz63SEd8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:05:33 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Best one yet! On Feb 8, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo > from Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine > was released in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade > so it was an easy choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then > I'll promise I'll give you guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen > at: http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > > -Todd Matthews > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:13:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EC031834A3; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=egFQ1eKhVs9z4R+ingeP3vqoQ3Kpa4yOLCzoVOyLODA=; b=kcqjkkylKGW9CNPuiW6Zfsx4pxYwEbVrZIW4EUHvscRRKqgWSJCLG/+Y6XyLsCDfne eq4pYSVM0oZkeLL6EzZOUfwZkeORoM0EJytJZf3YEwtGRPEhU9sgGf0IttR1TwrKw6nC HkemnH4VGschLMuvpnoVflTkqDxbNZZezPcMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=sjookFrSpEzgyMnBkRQl/ba14IWNrpU04yH8F3XGej4El8+Ek+YVWn07nXBhqPi6D1 sL+hkvTiWVJH255sAdwJD0BQCHylW3GH5SgfMeDxpxNZ2v2JwOcahbpWBIb/nN3VADSo 32Kcww6Ivb3YZVB0R5hBvjD5Syh12odMUTrpY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:13:20 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:13:23 +0000 (UTC) They don't! Oh man, you would think vimeo would have that figured out. I = guess I can toss 'em up on you tube too. Thanks for letting me know, Andy. On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Wish those vimeos would open with iphone!! >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:16:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B1E51834B0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=62hPNct7AAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=SrQR0-P3f6G4wuy-YKMA:9 a=iq8Mg2MRHqPqIwEIkRUA:7 a=EacePTj_RF4duFF-pMutGV8_yH4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:16:17 -0800 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:16:20 +0000 (UTC) I find it more convenient to control the VG99 with the footpedals of =20 my GR-1. I get more bang for my buck that way - a foot controller that doubles =20= as a synth (when I want one). I like having one less thing on the floor to trip over and worry about =20= too. My new Max/MSP Macbook system is going to give me plenty enough to =20 step on as it is (with 12 EV-5 pedals). The FC300 works just fine, and I've kept the packaging and everything. I just find I don't use it. On Feb 8, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > why Ted? > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:56 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn =20 > wrote: >> I have an FC-300 too. >> >> I got it when I bought my VG99. >> >> I hardly ever use it though. >> >> If anyone is interested. >> >> I'll probably be posting an ad for it to Ebay sometime soon. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> >>> Hi bro ;-) >>> I still have a FC-300 but don't use it. It's a great MFC: build =20 >>> like a >>> tank, very flexible but different than a 1010. In "patch mode", you >>> can configure exp pedals per patch. I would recommend to check the >>> manual, = http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/om.cfm?PRODUCT=3DFC-300 >>> >>> -- >>> Sjaak Overgaauw >>> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >>> http://livelooping.be/ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 356ED1834BC; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=HE+dY+aEriQPGhTDnMCdlebLFTUFt7EzHR1TP9L3ZVg=; b=LX+zbPVnu9gVVicPI8NlsJpedrb20R3dQ78L9z9aYrgFRz/6iH2e77Aac+B8pIA19q 2NFHk2OLTtdfyAybYcU+et1F8cJfSRQq8P1plGKP1TffSuwgoC3zHhH3A1sJJG2CXWN3 j8KxiH9POKylHcmlC67E9EnjsYNUprIBkAg3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=t2M+FFe2PCTHdbOvzsFblwPMbdRk1rN5bDNQX2DqXGSTMZLr6WcH3ZKmipp9vHayxB M0ZEO6HYsjDzPWrkyjAzQSjoD0TkVr+TFebCd564zRqd8qijhPsTg/WFCbRXbrpiRF3r 0k9vIVSWsBKwOgaH4YaruMv7d25b2doLpDv+0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:28:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <1zyRlC.A.HAB.ovfUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:28:56 +0000 (UTC) >=20 > My new Max/MSP Macbook system is going to give me plenty enough to = step on as it is (with 12 EV-5 pedals). Sounds awesome. What do you plug all the EV-5's into?? Welcome to Pedal = Palace!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:32:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 823981834CB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=4dqlVlSci7x38eCpp4wUEbxOvCipdGub4a1q6FIvPik=; b=dIWe+2GQVvajS7qtrIurYwbTljX1hE9kdrMeFpbl26SdrFDJDrUWpP/hQaAuw8lMg2 mdGkZbDYr68eQ/blY32NWcUkQH+WCdvxz5twRrWKPg1ivE4tT5jycLTEntZ/KdLXhvuc tVcggzR5X4wcxe9kh+A6oB4oQ5VsSEfAmBvAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=p6B4FqB3/96gDNsFAOsF1qaaX/E20+XoriCno6Tit11C2CylZ1fk6V76jPPgMk3dxM BnYEYgssCHc6mH/8qxI+PToUMeAqsXcOy76ebkAIK8PEDtZ194iiqW6pQxD6sfxupQZp KTIEETtdH9tJS/29Zv51NRcqFd5rBolWTUOJ8= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1063533616 Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:32:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <9ED17B1E-7984-40E5-9011-740391657150@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:32:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1063533616 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Art! :) On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Superb! Just awesome, loved every minute of it. Bravo Todd! > >> >> http://vimeo.com/19727896 >> If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen >> at: http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass >> -Todd Matthews --Apple-Mail-2--1063533616 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Superb! Just awesome, loved = every minute of it. Bravo Todd!


http://vimeo.com/19727896
If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and = 90's looping covers can be seen
at: http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmba= ss
-Todd = Matthews


= --Apple-Mail-2--1063533616-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 02:40:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 415541834D7; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3YBu2VTakjacJWk2ncwA:9 a=oB2kyrdUkokKU3XAvmhYSPH8o1cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:40:02 -0800 References: <4E730E2A-51DC-4F53-82E3-CA48F83C9D18@sea.plala.or.jp> <99FADABD-37A6-4533-BF40-51296EE8EF82@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:40:06 +0000 (UTC) 4 will plug into an EoWave USB Footcontroller hub and will specifically control Max/MSP. 4 will plug into the back of a MIDI pedal called an Nobels MF-2 and will control my EchoLoop VST loopage. 2 Will plug in to the GR1 and control stuff connected with that. 1 will plug in to the VG99 and give me volume control of that. 1 will plug into the back of my Lexicon Vortex. It's a bit overwhelming. On Feb 8, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> My new Max/MSP Macbook system is going to give me plenty enough to >> step on as it is (with 12 EV-5 pedals). > > Sounds awesome. What do you plug all the EV-5's into?? Welcome to > Pedal Palace! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 03:10:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6471834A5; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <83DE88F7-828A-4B1F-9E39-51DA245F3AD0@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:10:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC) after all of this chat, I still think my next controller will be a Soft Step, I talked to one of their sales guys today and they are starting to offer it with some pre-loaded command templates so one doesn't necessarily need to take on a new learning curve to get up and running quickly. It will also work for hardware d dinosaurs like moi' though that may be old news.. I doubt I will be trying to trigger it with Doc Martens but my Gordius also requires proper flat soled looping shoes so i'm not afraid of a light touch. Also because of its size i could see using it in conjunction with my gordius for an expanded number of available preset options without having to bank up or down, now beads of sweat or beginning to form on my forehead........................... Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 03:22:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 848FA1834C0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 03:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=nWw11EDGHcenO09jKqByBIHWra+HI3LNI8tCBQjZ/kQ=; b=hTJ6stU3BrFOF0ZBM9QKGF7EsRqbHIFnuYslaBJgBxhz4VHt9iW0wOO0ZI/9iWnUGc /EkWbqWoBYBKfDWrJ+SWv1pVYLtPKHvyoje5zrvf8IjnPivqf7KVAQuHqXPTajcRe2SO 8MSPE6v+raUB+iFIflbIAtq9S6U1PHlUTHWaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=BT/sWubSgvkEfIg4wuXU3J9LU/5fw2I6pl3QvUqJBvzed4YdXvH+xUy4D/Gcht6QPf 2JSKokNvEdBmNWhvxsvfRTKgYDf7gdr8/+5Bc8oAk/zDkyfqnJs+pP8/JP7p3Z7nsn7u aUygOan26rhfWWnj+YYdzJwbg1FI2p1sq8JXg= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <83DE88F7-828A-4B1F-9E39-51DA245F3AD0@baymoon.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 22:22:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1CF01CFF-F265-44E3-AFEC-8D404F46E39C@gmail.com> References: <83DE88F7-828A-4B1F-9E39-51DA245F3AD0@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 03:22:45 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:10 PM, William Walker wrote: > after all of this chat, I still think my next controller will be a = Soft Step, I talked to one of their sales guys today and they are = starting to offer it with some pre-loaded command templates so one = doesn't necessarily need to take on a new learning curve to get up and = running quickly. It will also work for hardware d dinosaurs like moi' = though that may be old news.. I doubt I will be trying to trigger it = with Doc Martens but my Gordius also requires proper flat soled looping = shoes so i'm not afraid of a light touch. Also because of its size i = could see using it in conjunction with my gordius for an expanded number = of available preset options without having to bank up or down, now beads = of sweat or beginning to form on my forehead........................... > Bill >=20 I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the = softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on the = softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate your = purchase.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 05:44:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 441261834A3; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5229B6.3040007@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:44:22 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: STUTTER EDIT by iZotope Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5isbWC.A.QFG.-miUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Well, I just spent an hour goofing around with BT's new invention developed by iZotope called STUTTER EDIT. I used it inside of Ableton LIVE which I'm not very familiar with but my PCs are down right now so I don't have my favorite Image Line's FL Studio up and running (on a MB Pro now) but I have to say, this is one super fun piece of software if you are rhythmically inclined. I just used the Preset Managers' ability to audition effects (as I don't have a Midi setup currently) but there are so many fantastic rhythmic effects in this program and they all are perfectly synced to whatever loop you are running. You can use resampling and repitched 'cascades' as well as having rhythmic stutters that can morph through time (changing note values as the effect plays) but they are all synced to the track. I remember spending several hours manually editing tracks in Sound Forge to attempt things like these and here it's all at the tip of your fingers immediately and you 'play' your loop with a midi keyboard. Very hip and highly recommended. rick walker ps I'm no expert in it, by the way..........just a goofy fan now! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 06:05:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CBCA1834AB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_02bbe936-d49f-4b0e-b5bb-7327c3eba069_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.13.137] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:05:02 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,,,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 06:05:02.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A66E5F0:01CBC81F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:05:04 +0000 (UTC) --_02bbe936-d49f-4b0e-b5bb-7327c3eba069_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks sjaak=2C i appreciate it.=20 i've become quite comfortable with my blogspot blog and with soundcloud too= but i'll check it out. if it does what i want i'll definitely switch - i'l= l let you know how it goes... and congratulations on your cd release!=20 nat --------------------=20 Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums = --_02bbe936-d49f-4b0e-b5bb-7327c3eba069_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks sjaak=2C i appreciate it.

i've become quite comfortable with= my blogspot blog and with soundcloud too but i'll check it out. if it does= what i want i'll definitely switch - i'll let you know how it goes...
<= br>and congratulations on your cd release!

nat

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http://ww= w.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums
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<= /body> = --_02bbe936-d49f-4b0e-b5bb-7327c3eba069_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 06:32:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED75D1834B4; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3430e71e-e488-4c67-9053-c109d86d4097_" X-Originating-IP: [86.139.230.185] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: STUTTER EDIT by iZotope Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:32:12 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D5229B6.3040007@cruzio.com> References: <4D5229B6.3040007@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 06:32:12.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[15DD0D10:01CBC823] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:32:14 +0000 (UTC) --_3430e71e-e488-4c67-9053-c109d86d4097_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds very cool Rick - I'm gonna give it a try too.. Ppppeeeeace.... G > Date: Tue=2C 8 Feb 2011 21:44:22 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: STUTTER EDIT by iZotope >=20 > Well=2C I just spent an hour goofing around with > BT's new invention developed by iZotope called STUTTER EDIT. >=20 > I used it inside of Ableton LIVE which I'm not very familiar with but > my PCs are down right now so I don't have my favorite Image Line's FL=20 > Studio > up and running (on a MB Pro now) but I have to > say=2C this is one super fun piece of software if you are rhythmically=20 > inclined. >=20 > I just used the Preset Managers' ability to audition effects (as I don't= =20 > have a > Midi setup currently) but there are so many fantastic rhythmic effects=20 > in this program > and they all are perfectly synced to whatever loop you are running. >=20 > You can use resampling and repitched 'cascades' as well as having rhythmi= c > stutters that can morph through time (changing note values as the effect= =20 > plays) > but they are all synced to the track. >=20 > I remember spending several hours manually editing tracks in Sound Forge = to > attempt things like these and here it's all at the tip of your fingers=20 > immediately > and you 'play' your loop with a midi keyboard. >=20 > Very hip and highly recommended. >=20 > rick walker >=20 > ps I'm no expert in it=2C by the way..........just a goofy fan now! >=20 = --_3430e71e-e488-4c67-9053-c109d86d4097_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds very cool Rick - I'm gonna give it a try too..

Ppppeeeeace...= .

G

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 8 Feb 2011 21:44:22 -0800
>=3B F= rom: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>>=3B Subject: STUTTER EDIT by iZotope
>=3B
>=3B Well=2C I= just spent an hour goofing around with
>=3B BT's new invention develo= ped by iZotope called STUTTER EDIT.
>=3B
>=3B I used it inside o= f Ableton LIVE which I'm not very familiar with but
>=3B my PCs are d= own right now so I don't have my favorite Image Line's FL
>=3B Studio=
>=3B up and running (on a MB Pro now) but I have to
>=3B say=2C = this is one super fun piece of software if you are rhythmically
>=3B = inclined.
>=3B
>=3B I just used the Preset Managers' ability to = audition effects (as I don't
>=3B have a
>=3B Midi setup current= ly) but there are so many fantastic rhythmic effects
>=3B in this pro= gram
>=3B and they all are perfectly synced to whatever loop you are r= unning.
>=3B
>=3B You can use resampling and repitched 'cascades= ' as well as having rhythmic
>=3B stutters that can morph through time= (changing note values as the effect
>=3B plays)
>=3B but they a= re all synced to the track.
>=3B
>=3B I remember spending severa= l hours manually editing tracks in Sound Forge to
>=3B attempt things = like these and here it's all at the tip of your fingers
>=3B immediat= ely
>=3B and you 'play' your loop with a midi keyboard.
>=3B
= >=3B Very hip and highly recommended.
>=3B
>=3B rick walker>=3B
>=3B ps I'm no expert in it=2C by the way..........just a go= ofy fan now!
>=3B
= --_3430e71e-e488-4c67-9053-c109d86d4097_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 07:09:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F51618348B; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E9z0ctjRJIqMzlJPWHcnTW8+xF0COLvnLhzN8+du26Q=; b=SvlRu+SioShpShcgNxVs8sJNWGqtRFi/b022f3P/D6l1Y2rVTDYwBnhTtJx+a26ZnS 6/jYmDh7uOGGAfbSTJ1gP1tICbr3gzCHwtbMDNlUh0fKL1XeBpEY6rQeE1RahCJb9vSx QIuaOZNokvNtX6ZpInMKCGB6vlNj8D07cBA5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Y84wWCOyWlxlmPDdZT6ysepRrpXbFr4TTOvUc4Fdb7+q+eg5a9Ad7nMhtnIYBLsq+E HFq8D5ZsY+RKaDse2HFMPJTzH4wVonVVCgEQnm9YVoabAeWlEaE8matRtDea9NoYT8sz oM6PfcdJfsL2TVT+BZQqjRHWT2nlR3PR3d9yY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <83DE88F7-828A-4B1F-9E39-51DA245F3AD0@baymoon.com> References: <83DE88F7-828A-4B1F-9E39-51DA245F3AD0@baymoon.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:08:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8Sl4pS5rEYejFjTxyOlc808jwt0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not like it, or was that sarcasm? On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:10 AM, William Walker wro= te: > after all of this chat, I still think my next controller will be a Soft > Step, > Bill > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 07:40:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF25318347D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:40:10 UTC Message-Id: <506AAA06-08F7-4861-A686-2F98C54F1C22@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 00:33:30 -0700 References: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Very well done Todd. Beautiful and haunting. Makes me feel like an ape with the looping I do, LOL. Keep it up, John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 09:45:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 661B518347E; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577689537/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8BAGPxUU1YbRcR/2dsb2JhbAAMlxvLdIVbBI8T X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,446,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="577689537" Message-ID: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:45:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Dustbunnies wrote: > However, with the FC-300, you can send pretty much any type of MIDI event > (PC, CC, Notes, MMC, NRPN, SysEx, and even > nearly-useless-for-foot-controller data like poly-aftertouch, FWIW). I'm > just curious what data type -- Clock notwithstanding -- the Gordius is able > to send that the FC-300 cannot? The LG can send every possible midi command/data. Including 14bit. from an expression pedal with a user definable response curve. It also has Gordius specific commands. Delay. wait for so many mS. Essential, as there's plenty of gear that can't process midi fast enough to keep up otherwise. Synced delay.. to incoming midi or tap tempo. Ramped commands...fades and sweeps. Reconfig switches on the fly, e.g. bottom row could select patches, then the top row would be stomp boxes appropriate to the patch. Random CC (with upper & lower limit) ...and other stuff I haven't checked out, mostly connected with the Axe-FX. Also... Configure you're banks in named song lists...great for loopers because instead of using this for songs you can set it up for different devices. There's a default patch which loads with each "song" (if req). Programmable response curve for It has a screensaver. ..and it's the only midi controller with crazy stuff that only a looper would want (my fault I'm afraid). ..and it's been checked for latency...don't buy a controller that hasn't. ..and Xavier's the best tech support around, not afraid to be on a mailing list with his buyers, always helpful, always open about how things are going, never known to leave a problem unfixed.. ...and phenomenally quick if he needs to that. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 10:19:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75F1C183480; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OqSukqJV9Qi4EyKIppf64kmj2PqG+QArinUnhtG6dWk=; b=YBepDQFAMMT4fqwJeFAJa8iPBdKXx6ZO6l1Ce3UMxQoz1mMczXbjo2jV/ErcK1YgFE cjPwE17TYwVHsIT75vPLJCS/Iz4SiQsmfxHqcU8cRnBMGYOeKa9s9lxoH7fm/E7IX2kX SeUKjBG4YGkM28O2suJao8fFlNYsAU8YSQU9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sEDOCa8vUPZ8xi/qVkzYfEkl9rwfW8VNCYuUAtQCuCUuWgviVS2oHkiguEpoAzvx6x np5qCjGIF4fGR8AZhp1lGPXQ15FlezRXNzaW+94gxJb/yfbaSnS15Fdd3dE35o9veb+D VD4igepZt/3dmi/cCHDiRfoxPPunJ94BYRbZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:19:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RIA8cEwwbX4_HssparvSk4-r6G8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4Y5weB.A.QTE.qomUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:45 AM, andy butler wrote= : > It has a screensaver. OK, I=B4m getting one... --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 10:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B04418347B; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NgUyptqkvxaiM9oeFzKvopjYaXAFuS42OMK3C704Xoc=; b=l0he+yPI8X3qPOkqMA1+ZWPu88Bk+doWjTGOjgzttKXzbswOMFsODeFP/PCp4WSzX9 mwLqNlkj6wxgvDmANDpOUrBtNfSSAQUcWGlFHhEd4QPY7Ip51ZnqtXvEVsQX53jskgWY VqGKlrBHndanwkUETx1sRsnO5uTTts56tJ6Ig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PPoRUjQyjUJuU0WsxPbMW/0qXFuZMHBAZmkx/Wqdm25GTXMw+/wJU+iV+Ih9bmXd2L jUK7PAGfBPdg7j3dRs+gy6C1K7wx0TFGCxT/uGm/9+SteV3jKh4iIMZCHjJGXvZ2YizL NrdU/KLi8U8C6sxP2Ttf9/4XgpqB6VvjiMYcU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:42:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3Iu6g.A.5tE.99mUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:42:05 +0000 (UTC) > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:45 AM, andy butler wro= te: >> It has a screensaver. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:19 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > OK, I=C2=B4m getting one.. LOL inclined! Two days ago, at a band rehearsal, a person noticed the LG2's screensaver and asked "What is THAT?". "Screensaver", I said. "Oh, can you turn it off? I mean, when it is running you can't read out which button to press next!" Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 11:08:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A30E18347E; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=pybh58vtCTRcE9/fdb1KW7qbhbZHtp2wLqOSOW7Za+k=; b=sqUgOrEUz07nC3TjNgLoC8Vmf1LG/STN1FeSQeUR1QVPmh6dm5Oh2KrcjwXQlcB3Li 9oFR142FWc6xnq/bFR2szTq3Mkh6kW3jrwpDJm9XP37FFySy++lUnHFAovHx2S8nyoKG q5Nll7d9uD7yc5mR2qKl6J6qg7Wc9c98h6HNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=dozP3Ct2YwhUDJLpDLXdf+ZEM+g24spKGAi8e/Y15CFarWxSovlVcISwLGZWCXG956 1jvn+1+wmpbniYffS3Mcyy3KhQ9N7v1rw9b3OEQytE9cUGLsShswuehB+vHJa8Skn4PV +Zyi4mWSJ5n+rDTZiFlxL0OCC97jBomyquuVo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:08:20 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Hahaha, if the LG tells you which button to press next I'm definitely = saving my monies now! >=20 > Two days ago, at a band rehearsal, a person noticed the LG2's > screensaver and asked "What is THAT?". "Screensaver", I said. "Oh, can > you turn it off? I mean, when it is running you can't read out which > button to press next!" >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 11:15:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9DFA183487; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=bsjCB18r+M+Bo+2Z/UTgj/so6/XA3or7w7YLu2Jg6H4=; b=XPIN7ZMkcS1kTW2krwwDhc4PwTCQMxljzKAlpwEJ3NjKpoUncncTnnS+lco9bJzwJ7 z+aSii7lD00SLmxqUjV8/tRAyP3eQVzCuRxjojMILwZjoGVKuB1N6FHs+jZwzE+SgokY RQQ0ZcPJP4RtPuf/mobCwoM/+jB/S1kEhNQtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=QBzLtdVlmK1rnxOrzvNaf+IRWEsrRH82bg2OA8Kg+fVMSBU6pmp/4BiImOuKRpQ0KX n78xm/pUdT7JTVKSLkOkooncB5rtUB3lO7I1ObScbRad9QqYB8efHJxBbV82GQqoLtlt O8dlzf98tHeHXxoOBVmRclylxPlvYB7XRh3yk= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1032168218 Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:14:55 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:15:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1032168218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's the link for youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uncUJQrwg-U Todd Matthews On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Wish those vimeos would open with iphone!! > --Apple-Mail-1--1032168218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Here's the link for youtube:


Todd Matthews


On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Andy Owens wrote:

Wish those vimeos would open with iphone!!






--Apple-Mail-1--1032168218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 11:25:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46278183488; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=bQCmG6YinLyHKbmHLLixFIzVQnwcFkgZ9nyY3ktII+I=; b=ltDxz+RSFe42mPyuWL5aGXVoGCUUCkPOgnqFPAYHb0aJLmiRHVT2kYVSze/kf43brJ EdRCHRDb4AdFos4YVkoLGQHABBUjyJJzF0tH78l6iV6IJN8tIzas+vDYY51CqqwZqW0A mLiZolx5CNIOIZBpPS9G7NMJCH+MgPlptI8L4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=PgZw4lM0DG3hJyFcUdO3vt1LUyTx/Z8qE79Umpf3nSxy3V0saFOcP6Gb3mlgCCLhgW h1a6uexLBkd2hZS1yEy3Ybbefr7ik3OiCWB0SQ3O9Ohr++HpBpj23UACo8jHvaiGBC36 tvz8cdl3yi5ok+GWSBbVVdsZPZamFoKnkD6ZI= References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:24:58 +0100 Message-ID: <6904242456972573293@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2UpuOD.A.k2F.mmnUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:25:26 +0000 (UTC) On 9 Feb 2011, at 11:42, Per Boysen wrote: > creensaver", I said. "Oh, can > you turn it off? I mean, when it is running you can't read out which > button to press next!" Wow, that would be great! A piece if software that could tell me which button to press next! Thats one of the major headaches, in music, video editing, indeed, in life! Seriously this thread reminds me to sell something.. I gotta get me a GORDIUS From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 12:06:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE43A183489; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N6ZOtr5mYO9tD94newh1qQlqJaGBIm4A4wEVYy52UNU=; b=OLioo38hQno9EH1zNfY5g1qmS4PyRGM+ShRBmblFGwm0nrV2oqUzHMHD1E0+WoMBdE EII9K/h+GaylX73afb1gcU51Ds1u0W9+BZnAafEPJIAmw2aktlGBgmI+4MPRmNfxS1nJ Fu420rlzFrTV+oVncMR5u0VunZ77uPB0FJfx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TP4zjSlbX8OjZuH71ZRWJVtVgnBCkTN1ufBcc4+pzYy2oEYb3BLEE8j+ehskBVGcwb /N8fQNZKePxQZyqbG1XX5m7RjWGPx8YoHIUb/D+ksYZeCf14//1QIaKVCFYH7g64WwTC GotxqEVEc7uVyI0qh7XjTWesazjHBxpO61mnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:05:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a541b622cc049bd84954 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:06:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a541b622cc049bd84954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really beautiful piece! Thank you! 2011/2/9 Todd Matthews > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from > Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was released > in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was an easy > choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give you > guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen at: > http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a541b622cc049bd84954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really beautiful piece! Thank you!

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--20cf3054a541b622cc049bd84954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 12:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 135E018348E; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:29:40 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+majsQI/+mrleQzpMu0RE4YH01Zin2a6pc+SLxme PV+THE5mlNJfi37FpXeNt/lvF4Mj7sNjA1Fg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 5/w3PeNrZCEEJMdhnm0hsWp4IGhpZUYE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Don't see the point with this keyboard. If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, get a usb keyboard with decent action and some synth software. If you want uncompromising sound, get your favorite analog synth. For "aggressive, gritty", why not simply a Virus? Personally, I'm happy enough with what Logic offers (sending some Moog sounds through the new guitar effect pedals sounds great to me). I do love the "raw" sound of a real analog synth and have it in my basement, but don't bother anymore. best regards Buzap -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 12:40:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5918F183490; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q2pZ2FI/j9btNYhjB79TCAD/zbVEk3MDSDF9tf5c6OI=; b=eB7QbJytfOGvoymbREPmAQm6AgD8JARbF8QrcT1kuOZg/8T56G4RIYngncuqgdtLNV 9UGROmFB/4sBKJu/HZZay4r06TtmvACemxaWG3gMfKpGW0b59ODU5fIwc40ZSiuJKMga MBUpZ5YJFTw702/9hHRKrQjgTDB+Pz7iGl/dE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KyC2jNU3TyyjliVOwkCP98R2sUhhdRr/KnhyzR2Zu12oMaKGq+qvBGHE2awxChopdU SwYbM9WBNw47SL0CIKjzVTIemMt6c1zd6B68miOsO3ox/rn1FA1oo6pa5czvbblp+bJJ L3h4sqDoOgdeeiH2YnCWnCFQxUpEHoiL2IhMM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:40:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: inexpensive synth From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:40:33 +0000 (UTC) I too like the Virus very much! Discovered it some years ago when a free library of Virus Apple Loops was published. I especially like the Virus for how the filter sweep can sound over a busy tonal part. It must be great to have one where you can tweak that lovely filter within the musical context. If I was an octopus with a fat bank account I would buy a Virus this day! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Don't see the point with this keyboard. > > If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, get a usb keyboard with decent action and some synth software. > > If you want uncompromising sound, get your favorite analog synth. > For "aggressive, gritty", why not simply a Virus? > > Personally, I'm happy enough with what Logic offers (sending some Moog sounds through the new guitar effect pedals sounds great to me). I do love the "raw" sound of a real analog synth and have it in my basement, but don't bother anymore. > > best regards > Buzap > > > > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 13:04:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140B8183493; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=BEqIpMPKxW8OjJ+N7Hryc2ifWuLGg4m5GNzgmHVMF3w=; b=LL0LzI7rTthJfxF76C/0YRq4KqBo6+nszcXqdm94PD+zJC/iBEf3nTIyJqC0AAxc6z bMUQ54OrCD5bE15scoPT55Imvg02BSP1td1HWj1KV8niCNbvKZUXaEMLfqSxVre6ZUh6 Rj4HIzhmcsoMKMsZ9Vt67f9MqpZ37EopIG8bI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=c/3Vb8Lc5X5CdrfFLRfhA9Vt0+hENTjHUAKGeWNWyTofqaQmOIgJNAZjQjlmA06Flz j0zstvFKDavoMRQYeIgIfCAtUx7jrD0tGbqGjyATrafoJNyFCKbwugJ1foBs+S8HBh9O JVUly1hr3nNtKQzzH8HGlkNNhLvT6yzUnUBjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ac873cce80049bd91a27 Resent-Message-ID: <2BHB6B.A.m7H.SDpUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:04:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ac873cce80049bd91a27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best one of the lot, Todd. What a huge undertaking, doing all these covers= . respect, man. but the playing and looping here, just beautiful. t On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from > Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was releas= ed > in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was an easy > choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give yo= u > guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen at: > http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > > -Todd Matthews > > > > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054ac873cce80049bd91a27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best one of the lot, Todd. =A0What a huge undertaking, doing all these cove= rs. =A0respect, man. but the playing and looping here, just beautiful.=A0
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On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 a= t 8:42 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo = from Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was= released in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was= an easy choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promi= se I'll give you guys a break for a bit:)
=A0

If you missed em my 70's= , 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen at:=A0http://vimeo.com/channels/gt= mbass

-Todd Matthews







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--20cf3054ac873cce80049bd91a27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 13:17:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86640183491; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5843B073-55C3-4B4E-8039-404D36643586@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:16:11 -0500 Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius Thread-Index: AcvIW5TaRM+hE92kQV6RpOLrriO9HA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 13:17:04.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4DC6F00:01CBC85B] Resent-Message-ID: <_Cvjd.A.UU.SPpUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) TWFuIGFmdGVyIHRoYXQgcmV2aWV3IEknbSBnb25uYSBidXkgbGcgYW5kIG1heWJlIG5vdCBldmVu IHVzZSBpdCEhISEhDQoNCg0KDQpPbiBGZWIgOSwgMjAxMSwgYXQgNToxOSBBTSwgbWFyayBmcmFu Y29tYmUgPG1hcmtAbWFya2ZyYW5jb21iZS5jb20+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+IE9uIFdlZCwgRmViIDks IDIwMTEgYXQgMTA6NDUgQU0sIGFuZHkgYnV0bGVyIDxha2J1dGxlckB0aXNjYWxpLmNvLnVrPiB3 cm90ZToNCj4+IEl0IGhhcyBhIHNjcmVlbnNhdmVyLg0KPiANCj4gT0ssIEnCtG0gZ2V0dGluZyBv bmUuLi4NCj4gDQo+IA0KPiANCj4gLS0gDQo+IG1hcmsgZnJhbmNvbWJlDQo+IHd3dy5tYXJrZnJh bmNvbWJlLmNvbQ0KPiB3d3cub3Jkb2Fia2hhby5jb20NCj4gdHdpdHRlciBAbWFya2ZyYW5jb21i ZQ0KPiBodHRwOi8vdmltZW8uY29tL3VzZXI4MjUwOTQNCj4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5sb29vcC5ubw0K PiANCg== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 13:19:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E9B8183499; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> <6904242456972573293@unknownmsgid> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <6904242456972573293@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <654F2A6C-7332-4D3A-8418-55857F9CD9FA@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:18:11 -0500 Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius Thread-Index: AcvIW9vTxQMqmiBeSIaO7dpV5LWMoA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 13:19:05.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECDC22A0:01CBC85B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey man you could get one of those "easy" buttons from Staples!!! On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:25 AM, mark francombe wrote: > On 9 Feb 2011, at 11:42, Per Boysen wrote: >=20 >> creensaver", I said. "Oh, can >> you turn it off? I mean, when it is running you can't read out which >> button to press next!" >=20 >=20 > Wow, that would be great! A piece if software that could tell me which > button to press next! Thats one of the major headaches, in music, > video editing, indeed, in life! >=20 > Seriously this thread reminds me to sell something.. I gotta get me a GORD= IUS >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 13:24:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65C91183498; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cMqkoddEzVXO4YWR49OGBe4hzIFi1Xi/GwEJdFIPUjw=; b=pB7SxypEAuyPKAMqvaGKHys/Z+Wq7oRadg2vKWw4kItR+lpKmcjgFTnNHWaIdFEbMa mwUdnKfnXvfgpEqMdJyEnu1y8m5mDOjzZ05T70FBfhxQCdoMnW0dW2chs5t9CMU14OQS GKAv5za9atsPR3lh0xjYks3NRk2UzBEmqIlls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g7M93rYo3vudcQsbSgVFmNG0WoRvEzqPnTD6uMYRcTKS01A5NSS7x3xCG4Ij1p5xj/ dopU8426o+ee277MIGcGKQ1Lqt5L+SUsdgBUVbNBmCM1wxrdap13lW/cQsXcIMedGOyv grsS6ZYeMEUwnbw8Qm1u1wLxKDLs+B10IBPtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5843B073-55C3-4B4E-8039-404D36643586@1800dialword.com> References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> <5843B073-55C3-4B4E-8039-404D36643586@1800dialword.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:24:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:24:45 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Man after that review I'm gonna buy lg and maybe not even use it!!!!! Put it in your living room with the Gordius Screensaver connected to a big screen projector! Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 13:49:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 191DC18349D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Nat is a cool cat! References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:48:21 -0500 Thread-Topic: Nat is a cool cat! Thread-Index: AcvIYBTqJJmkgXENTh66HigCtIA8wg== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 13:49:16.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[248913D0:01CBC860] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey Nat, been looking at your vids, you are good!!!! Wish I had a good duet partner, my son off at college now at lost his local g= irlfriend so now not home on weekends as much, gotta find him another local g= irl!!! What was that plastic or paper you were using with thst trumpet dude? Andy O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 14:00:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FACB1834A0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PgWs+O9FzHhWyUWzO9QmKk6WZ9Qew44gHomT7uf2l+g=; b=cf99dFzKRvq48Yl/xkOFH/ojmKGZuT1TwFVRhP2uzlTG3etgV8NpxTvrYBWDUPkdMF OJ48w4G135DAk2HIM1H4HfeAfHsDVMOl/AV0JsE6cOAdUel0nm+oPVaae2fFonBjo55s QhoMgSEzYQAysn10z6uNQh9b3GkD7azDkpg5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t5PklbIUaLPimGo0CojSL11Uh6Dtfq18efgzXziAKGKQpfN9yWfpA8z0qcXnMxPEic RRD7AK79R+bdbwJlv7RGec/IGjF6x9SpJjhIhHWXCLRlw8YRwh8oBn/G6N3RB1UYpqhk l3zZ3YhUnYgcDigbz6wpDTHIeTeROlUrYRWqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:00:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) fantastico Todd! Luis On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from > Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was releas= ed > in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was an easy > choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give yo= u > guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen > at:=A0http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > -Todd Matthews > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 14:05:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90E691834A1; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> <5843B073-55C3-4B4E-8039-404D36643586@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:04:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius Thread-Index: AcvIYk5MQuPQ3e8aQryu/AM2ZcNVlQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 14:05:32.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A4AD370:01CBC862] Resent-Message-ID: <3y7H1C.A.tfB.t8pUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Wait, there is an ouput for the screen? Ok I'm gonna buy two!!! Ao On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Man after that review I'm gonna buy lg and maybe not even use it!!!!! > > Put it in your living room with the Gordius Screensaver connected to a > big screen projector! > > Per ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 14:12:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D98F11834B2; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=wfhQE2/OzHxPvOrN+2ASYgAH7Wq+TUp/WhAO++n1VD0=; b=qYpO/oWiLY/Xt/fITl+OO18aPBCkazA3f2HKEicLWAsuRN/3cO89LHsQKmrEBBcfhx EVMN8Y0kEK3Og+vi3Pp2W3QNqhO0K3mOYCQ2Pa0pTdpWsRiiqGD9Vf8mmf4aYXyFlmPd +qJrBJp/soYOKZj8IRTfoh7XlEx7aENYi6h9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=KLffCjbc1vpoc5k7J6f3tRUHqlOQIqDwgEHVMx+JuuCVvMh58+XdiC11+KpNljMoMA fa+BNsNCobem2wXCosrkFMvcssu4RLiusZmOKBKdd06L9ayDcDr+c56Jwf27Snn16HLy UychD/yCGXiCSPM5LAd6b7kEqaY9T2RijLnC8= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1021292117 Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:16:11 -0800 In-Reply-To: <654F2A6C-7332-4D3A-8418-55857F9CD9FA@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> <6904242456972573293@unknownmsgid> <654F2A6C-7332-4D3A-8418-55857F9CD9FA@1800dialword.com> Message-Id: <3970131B-F5B5-4A87-8888-6D0C21E4F951@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:12:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1021292117 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd give my left nut for an Easy button.=20 I own both the SoftStep and the Gordious, and thought I would finally = have all my problems solved but, well, not yet. Mostly I feel this is = because a) I'm dyslexic and the numbers just become too much for me and = b) "midi learn" never seems to be fully as implemented as I need... like = Echoloop not "hearing" signals through Live, which was one preferred = strategy until that one thing stopped me... again. I just can't seem to = reach what I have in my head. Yet. Though I have all the tools I need. Also, the Gordious Mac Editor is over a year late and I keep waiting for = a more user friendly software architecture I don't have to borrow a PC = for. (Mostly because I don't want to wrestle with a such a difficult = thing, then learn it just in time for it to change.) So it has been a = very expensive paper weight. I feel the SoftStep suffers from the same = issue, but maybe it's just me. However, I will NEVER (having done UI = work myself) agree that easy-of-use need be sacrificed for = depth-of-function to the degree that these things are. What I wouldn't = give for an "Advanced Settings" disclosure triangle so I could ease into = the complexity as I advanced my work flow looping system.=20 I recently paid $100 for a midi consultant to help and basically that = amounted to the time it took to properly explain what I wanted it to do = and have him tell me, "It's too complicated for me to help you."=20 And yet, I feel I'm close. At least closer then I've been in a long = time. I feel these two pedals in conjunction, once a few kinks are = worked out, will have the functionality I need and I like the = complementary form factors they give me.=20 Some day I'm going to work this all out, but sadly I have a feeling it = will now be next year as I only get fully immersed in music during the = winters and I have video projects lining up. But mostly I'm waiting for = the Gordious Mac Editor, which will have the new, = still-complex-but-at-least-improved architecture. And Im waiting for = Echoloop to work for me in Live---or the spare time and energy to learn = Mobious or Super Looper. (I was very impressed by that cello guy = recently... simple, straightforward looping [rather then "experimental" = which is less my bag, unless applied like pepper--dashes here and there] = and yet when I looked at what his system was it changed from one video = to the next, [Live on one and Mainstage/Superlooper in another, if I = remember correctly] which means he's got TWO adequate systems worked = out, which means it's probably me. Though it's a lot more then one = instrument I want to loop... it's instant access to everything I want.)=20= Anyway, apparently I had to vent. Probably not much useful to anyone in = all this so I will summarize what might be useful to someone: a) if = you're frustrated with the software route you're not alone [no news = there really] b) I, having owned and tested both pedals with basic = things, do believe that both will eventually live up to their full = potential and be "worth it"--after a few specific tweaks [software ease = of use for both and reliability/accuracy of the SoftStep] c) I'll add to = that my experience with tech support is that SoftStep TechSupport is = very good and Gordious, while technically accurate and fast enough = replying, seems to generally be much less thorough or interested, a bit = terse, and he's been way, way late on delivering. But in fairness, he = made sure not to absolutely promise anything when I bought it, it's just = his estimates I speak of and I think he's kind of a one man show so = some of that's to be expected. Just letting you know if you should = expect less than stellar treatment (though fair by the = letter---certainly less personal) regardless of the high price.=20 I'm going to throw a party when I finally do get it all worked out. And = film a video.=20 Though I but lurk on and scan on Loopers Delight these days, I want to = say thank you to all of you who bring real, specific advice to the list, = particularly the "regulars" like Per, Andy, Todd, and many others. Your = time is appreciated for those of us who still have much to work out in = our drive to reach our potential. Thank you.=20 ---Christopher P.S. If any of you audio looping software gurus out there lives near = Portland Oregon or plans on traveling through and is in need of a left = nut..... --Apple-Mail-1--1021292117 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Also, = the Gordious Mac Editor is over a year late and I keep waiting for a = more user friendly software architecture I don't have to borrow a PC = for. (Mostly because I don't want to wrestle with a such a difficult = thing, then learn it just in time for it to change.) So it has been a = very expensive paper weight. I feel the SoftStep suffers from the same = issue, but maybe it's just me. However, I will NEVER (having done UI = work myself) agree that easy-of-use need be sacrificed for = depth-of-function to the degree that these things are. What I = wouldn't give for an "Advanced Settings" disclosure triangle so I could = ease into the complexity as I advanced my work flow looping = system. 

I recently paid $100 for a midi = consultant to help and basically that amounted to the time it took to = properly explain what I wanted it to do and have him tell me, "It's too = complicated for me to help you." 

And yet, = I feel I'm close. At least closer then I've been in a long time. I feel = these two pedals in conjunction, once a few kinks are worked out, will = have the functionality I need and I like the complementary form factors = they give me. 

Some day I'm going to work = this all out, but sadly I have a feeling it will now be next year as I = only get fully immersed in music during the winters and I have video = projects lining up. But mostly I'm waiting for the Gordious Mac Editor, = which will have the new, still-complex-but-at-least-improved = architecture. And Im waiting for Echoloop to work for me in Live---or = the spare time and energy to learn Mobious or Super Looper. (I was very = impressed by that cello guy recently... simple, straightforward looping = [rather then "experimental" which is less my bag, unless applied like = pepper--dashes here and there] and yet when I looked at what his system = was it changed from one video to the next, [Live on one and = Mainstage/Superlooper in another, if I remember correctly] which means = he's got TWO adequate systems worked out, which means it's probably me. = Though it's a lot more then one instrument I want to loop... it's = instant access to everything I = want.) 

Anyway, apparently I had to vent. = Probably not much useful to anyone in all this so I will summarize what = might be useful to someone: a) if you're frustrated with the software = route you're not alone [no news there really] b) I, having owned and = tested both pedals with basic things, do believe that both will = eventually live up to their full potential and be "worth it"--after a = few specific tweaks [software ease of use for both and = reliability/accuracy of the SoftStep] c) I'll add to that my experience = with tech support is that SoftStep TechSupport is very good and = Gordious, while technically accurate and fast enough replying, seems to = generally be much less thorough or interested, a bit terse, and he's = been way, way late on delivering. But in fairness, he made sure not to = absolutely promise anything when I bought it, it's just his estimates I = speak of and  I think he's kind of a one man show so some of that's = to be expected. Just letting you know if you should expect less than = stellar treatment  (though fair by the letter---certainly less = personal) regardless of the high = price. 

I'm going to throw a party when I = finally do get it all worked out. And film a = video. 

Though I but lurk on and scan = on Loopers Delight  these days, I want to say thank you to all of = you who bring real, specific advice to the list, particularly the = "regulars" like Per, Andy, Todd, and many others. Your time is = appreciated for those of us who still have much to work out in our drive = to reach our potential.  Thank = you. 

---Christopher

P.S. If any of you audio looping software = gurus out there  lives near Portland Oregon or plans on traveling = through and is in need of a left = nut.....



= --Apple-Mail-1--1021292117-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 14:22:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8995E1834AB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=W95AEytDM7IOeSCWBMEMI5b8ySqlqe3QXaR8c9+9ntM=; b=SJk8/iOBhrV6/5I3O8xLGjWKfOaibYrQ2qkT98F5J0D6Oe+fynxmHzUBDWtKRVdc3t 3ECEL/hvNCB8m2w57c+3sWGgC8kNaHFNBMHGxsTTTwmDIp8pBXxjIaU4Go3xeIg8fpi7 g/CxLkspdlMFNiaLwTAeHt2kGfChACvU8MROs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=xPiOV+m7MTYbTe5MDyJougtPkjdQ4hl95ZVd5PwpAgKG31SbYa3hNaUwZ6IgwmShSj /PPFV9sowVRsWFjxjcvY/dI9wLu/BPn+/W737jPXLzOdOXYyiwZhliK5RxZzrAK+T9R7 QjIkLTs8/U7QXroZJ7VSA7b7viy33ZTisJX58= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:22:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5d081e04c049bda3305 Resent-Message-ID: <9oYEdC.A.P9B.BNqUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:22:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5d081e04c049bda3305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > does anyone on the list have enough pull with Xavier to encourage him to > get this mac port done sooner rather than later? He'd certainly have some > instant sales. Myself, perhaps, included. Just don't have enough available > space on my music computer to partition for windows. It doesn't seem like > there's anything out there to match the Gordius, with the exception of the > noisy switches and mac port. > todd r. > > > ..and Xavier's the best tech support around, > not afraid to be on a mailing list with his buyers, > always helpful, > always open about how things are going, > never known to leave a problem unfixed.. > ...and phenomenally quick if he needs to that. > > > andy butler > > > --001636c5a5d081e04c049bda3305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
does anyone on t= he list have enough pull with Xavier to encourage him to get this mac port = done sooner rather than later? =A0He'd certainly have some instant sale= s. =A0Myself, perhaps, included. =A0Just don't have enough available sp= ace on my music computer to partition for windows. =A0It doesn't seem l= ike there's anything out there to match the Gordius, with the exception= of the noisy switches and mac port. =A0


todd r. =A0

<= /div>
=A0


..and Xavier's the best tech support around,
not afraid to be on a mailing list with his buyers,
always helpful,
always open about how things are going,
never known to leave a problem unfixed..
...and phenomenally quick if he needs to that.


andy butler






--001636c5a5d081e04c049bda3305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 15:13:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4ED21834A5; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ta/2y8Q3p9KMAK1eaHVa3a6OhfG34mabM2wXhcya4co=; b=oWXtinCpAL7VbkTdug0rWCiSw0vbhmPBSJuM0P52FSw+BOgQmJPhzXwwoFkrOXdltk ROOITKvLThG0FNc4Abxc4T1d4sJ76TbS/0qoMvHxop8cl4xokh33reqnHKEPsO90Woyt ABJ2Uu38hXvTgL8hlI0ohthAkjvHQoFDvr/Ao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r6sS7R/PdrsqKxZCjqVrEiMqWm/zj/4669epa2z+75sXoK725GZo+LcFQugDwntMxd LBaoU7h1yZ9+TNvoVH1drqAfX8AodZNv1RqqgFb/3F384hvP7pTbUzlKIzfwC6gVF5KK q3EKmjLr/I+WkqJFgC8qD6WvKmGYrB+1LDu10= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3970131B-F5B5-4A87-8888-6D0C21E4F951@gmail.com> References: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> <6904242456972573293@unknownmsgid> <654F2A6C-7332-4D3A-8418-55857F9CD9FA@1800dialword.com> <3970131B-F5B5-4A87-8888-6D0C21E4F951@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:13:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:13:32 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > I'd give my left nut for an Easy button. Reading all this talk about the Gordius pedal "being deep" and "advanced" I have to admit that I actually do not use anything at all of that "deep functionality". On the contrary I enjoy the fact that Gordius can be used dirt simple. I just set it up with a note number on each switch. Since a bank has ten switches I skip over the note number "0" and start with Note 1 (C#-1). This gives that Bank 1 offers Note 1-10, Bank 2 offers Note 11-20 and so on. Can't be simpler, really! Music software usually allows for binding functions to any MIDI Note and with this system I can use my LG2 with many different software rigs. Once I set my Gordius up I will never have to touch its programming again. That's why I'm not too crazy about the Mac editor either. I can take three bloody hours on my sons gaming PC just to set up my Gordius properly and save a back up to a USB stick. To me something like the Gordius being able to scale a MIDI CC# output (maybe from an expression pedal) is a "non argument" because I do all scaling on the receiving end, in Mainstage where the MIDI comes in. I really am a non-power-user of the Gordius pedal and like it because it can be simple. Maybe Xavier should start selling the LG2 set up with note numbers as default? Like a plug-n-play MIDI pedalboard. Or put up editor files on the site for users to read in this and other setups? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 15:33:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461F11834AB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 588913.35538.bm@omp1034.mail.ac4.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297265619; bh=VQ6lYdVAXjf20m5QK/wEXvJfKDMandewm9HkgRieXwo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rDlQgHLQGY3ltkMyGdKE5G6REsZv6FOlvB2wUhm9c7JVav3k1wsIvI5j3HVAdb9V30XwcOlLe4OGK9IBZO6xOlarPGyufYjdKHBGEMawaubVkgJ2Z3x9mbCwh/wt9HLh1nG5o0eVMYszRmArnVf5/HQEti9KeGpM7DteQZ8xktA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QM+VvjLPSF9YRzh+VG/9+gGb0WcVFa+aPWqGauEQokIp3zJqp7BKDABGVu2jZ9t4JQB1REJxF2SCXbVncxIaun2hJkZdn0XWdkcOZKk2+eeG1vFzVoW6Jez4YQ9tPNVmCsR8WENISJvBFh5rvNTNDeDNwpFVmnU3+lC3zpfraWQ=; Message-ID: <435520.1933.qm@web59711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: myf2qpEVM1n_.SAQ0sk2lav9XGTE74Wz9FDvPEAl.J50fhs nhk_wZtrM0AwMULmtfHmt1RYzAlLjs2XcUAg8Wd4UJm2_.aXNZCsHeWS5TGS OkU_tZ8ul2W_hyIqeqXCSehMtAVnuNLkDjD1W38U1Hwn2x.1pDArQ3McZO5F nOV9uHkiXaTZ6ljcXLVaxUu4XMfILdAAXBVek2FxEJouAb1vHCWoNoClI1G_ zsVTxfM_pA.IFaAT3DYq1z_0V42gONVNH4DD6LEbRvjIjp73qvougRwgCmg- - X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wellington Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <7a5_h.A.gbD.UPrUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:33:40 +0000 (UTC) >Don't see the point with this keyboard. Well, my first thought was, in this day and age of cheap software, (and what I will call "file sharing") a company has a better chance of making a profit with hardware rather than software... >If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, get a usb keyboard with decent >action and some synth software. Assuming you already have a computer you can use for this? I'm not sure what kind of computer, keyboard and software you could get for $500... ;) >For "aggressive, gritty", why not simply a Virus? Virus FTW! If you want to sound a little different though, you could go for an AN1x or JP-8000 or maybe a Nord micro mod... Regards, Doug ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 16:01:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 929921834AC; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TnGhLJwQTu7TYa0TSmsOkiJkDxElm3vStPzflwR+abE=; b=XDhtIvX6sj0WBKyqU6oO4AAcGomQoU6sxazd7JZElrQZva13LrEmGnjqYitUnmHg7Z Onj+sNFxI6ZcJ/MAVVlOepH0YCpscUMJxcksUw2iGDvUtmB9UUZonxc1vab2nAabe8WJ 3kBJJfI9B7Yr6eg1AEfKHnpx1XYxqx0hoNijs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=G/ABK2LjCi1u/RQLYFu45WC1v9qmlbEzKE5wEBiVS6x7uKGqvCgmbgzmq2Nqsr6eNs 8tE3sEWHKLAxTYqmLi6DK2MFjDy0g1bk7A/a6+mRwEAXR1Y8xrKn9AUNIjgIv1EJtbhG AnEivMNpOwa+LJpjbIJiAg9IqW/rm/LeUlo0k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: boomerang III review in premier guitar mag From: Butch Band To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65dc1607084c2049bdb95de Resent-Message-ID: <1muuKB.A.hEE.yprUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:01:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65dc1607084c2049bdb95de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The reviews and demos did the trick - I just bought one! I was leaning towards the LP-2 for the MIDI sync capability and also considered the new, unavailable Boss RC-30 for the loop save and multiple track capability, but the 'Rang III will do me nicely. I still would like to get one of the LP-2's especially at the $270 price and plan to if the IRS will ever give me my money. Someone questioned, a while back, why I thought 'next loop' and/or "loop up/down" essential. Well, I was albe to do the aforementioned on every looper I ever owned - except for the original Jamman if I remember correctly. I've owned Echoplexes, Repeaters, newer Jammen, all the Boss stuff. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Scott Hansen wrote: > just saw this: > > > http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Feb/Boomerang_Musical_Products_Boomerang_III_Phrase_Sampler_Pedal_Review.aspx > > haven't read it yet, have seen demos, looks cool. > > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > --0016e65dc1607084c2049bdb95de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The reviews and demos did the trick - I just bought one! I was leaning= towards the LP-2 for the MIDI sync capability and also considered the new,= unavailable Boss RC-30 for the loop save and multiple track capability, bu= t the 'Rang III will do me nicely. I still would like to get one of the= LP-2's especially at the $270 price and plan to if the IRS will ever g= ive me my money.
=A0
Someone questioned, a while back, why I thought 'next loop' an= d/or "loop up/down" essential. Well, I was albe to do the aforeme= ntioned on every looper I ever owned - except for the original Jamman if I = remember correctly. I've owned Echoplexes, Repeaters, newer Jammen, all= the Boss stuff.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Scott Hansen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><evanpeewee@gma= il.com> wrote:
just saw this:

htt= p://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Feb/Boomerang_Musical_Product= s_Boomerang_III_Phrase_Sampler_Pedal_Review.aspx

haven't read it yet, have seen demos, looks cool.

s---
www.myspace.= com/scotthansen

--0016e65dc1607084c2049bdb95de-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 16:06:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2081E1834A9; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=05hfcSRUMkDaaFef3bu1GZibn3R3jnCNV5qlG+5no28=; b=iMjAqx27Qr0eW2lnr1bu8ZKphUj29Mxl4rXJ0+25IwisMlwMDnl1HUiFYmttmue/v0 Cr0oCGEjSz9TI9ni3zFwYd66JhV9CZbjq3go6gN9SHeR5fT2DjL3+JjKvEPfKEat0Zom HBeDPUYv4Qp+GdPAmGwMZejvjHhiEOK0+kUgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=izLnURsEXR1+J26I8RgycKuh3V0KE0i+UO5BWXTFYaL+Y+XGUVyRqODp6Rdkii4dPQ ZBDT0qd2v/TzMQypc5AhXRG1e9H7vM0fmb7YHiedlAdLcMPZuKO+LjKi8LTIVfaOgPJn RFX65Oa/QbEpcEw8rLbRBKQy4/tsV4r3O+gY4= Message-Id: <8A6278B8-9B82-4AEE-A2A8-253BDD6BA5F7@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1014708911 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: OT: Bjork cover - modified bowed instrument Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 08:05:54 -0800 References: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <66HgNB.A.pOE.ttrUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:06:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1014708911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another bowed Bjork cover - desired constellation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DABglr34YJM Mechanical drones and a pedal resembling the fcb that mechanically plays strings. Analog heaven. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-1--1014708911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another bowed  Bjork = cover - desired constellation


Mechanical drones = and a pedal resembling the fcb that mechanically plays = strings.

Analog = heaven.

regards

= --Apple-Mail-1--1014708911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:41:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF4E7183475; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1009000299 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:41:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:41:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1009000299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of =20 ornamental fish, to wit: Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not like it, or was that sarcasm? and I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the =20= softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on =20 the softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate =20= your purchase. Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, =20 someone please give some real world answers to my real world =20 questions. Is it the learning curve or the latency, or the friggin =20 shag carpet you happen to me putting your Soft step on, or the fact =20 its a bit to small and thin to use with your favorite combat boots? it =20= seems to me it would be best mounted on an angled pedal board to make =20= the back tier more accessable. I would really appreciate more detail =20 about this. Thanks Bill= --Apple-Mail-1--1009000299 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  The answers I've = been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental fish, to = wit:
Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first = Bill, you may not
like it, or = was that sarcasm?
and 
I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing = standing with the softstep because I have a much easier time mashing = down the keys on the softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as = you contemplate your = purchase.  

Come on folks, even if you have to spill your = beans to me off list, someone please give some real world answers =  to my real world questions.  Is it the learning curve or the = latency, or the friggin shag carpet you happen to me putting your Soft = step on, or the fact its a bit to small and thin to use with your = favorite combat boots? it seems to me it would be best mounted on an = angled pedal board to make the back tier more accessable. I would really = appreciate more detail about this.
 Thanks
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1--1009000299-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:43:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5095C18347C; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=63wE1KmKnp7vBXVYXyAfM339HRv55kgYbAU9lCXC7s8=; b=GTQmtY7ttEffKt5CDwxln8Y7+ieWshs80fBf1+iMXNvEh3DW9j7tzmWtb6rI10g/sp U7UF6i7gdoCAw1VIOq1GEsHlSQI64X9CzP0Y2pkN4w69iFtuHa7MPy+omLYSwvhNk9vT AmPZPaRYsGsk6l7bJSzk1y509fG5RTSiWIVK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=e2Fm26N7UNPP1uL/I7WTQVwMpLry/dqXMHv+0wDEz2hT/H8yt+a2/YwNNbsPyLxDxa 4buO5GlC2AE5Q/07vxaD+oLp+/RH2KVtA5NACcPYOfxflFtSp2t5ebFYwc3/ZAir98KB 1najw57MelzRZjaa2rqfJPPUKxgh2c9yErNSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Software/Tools used by Legendary Pink Dots From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b820a82cd5c049bdd0099 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:43:27 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b820a82cd5c049bdd0099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As much of a fan of Legendary Pink Dots and individual solo projects of the various members as I am, I find it extremely difficult to get specific information about their gear, software applications, etc. especially in the studio setting. Raymond Steeg has at least revealed some of what he does post and live. I am most likely looking in all the wrong places. Most of what I find are Edward Ka-Spel's cryptic and enjoyable explanations of things :) Does anyone have a lead on what types of hardware/software synths Ka-Spel is using on the new album? The track: God and Machines, for example..... wow. -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering * Musician --0016363b820a82cd5c049bdd0099 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As much of a fan of Legendary Pink Dots and individual solo projects o= f the various members as I am, I find it extremely difficult to get specifi= c information about their gear, software applications, etc. especially in t= he studio setting. Raymond Steeg has at least revealed some of what he does= post and live. I am most likely looking in all the wrong places. Most of w= hat I find are=A0Edward Ka-Spel's=A0cryptic and enjoyable explanations = of things :)=A0
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Does anyone have a lead on what types of hardware/software synths=A0Ka= -Spel is using on the new album? The track: God and Machines, for example..= ... wow.
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--0016363b820a82cd5c049bdd0099-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:47:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14BC183477; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uGJd9zy2ZJKazmuAwOrQevTvsga9JUP0vY/Trem09To=; b=jLhrlRXZ/3JLUIxj3YnLo+0YSWVtzhw8UZxhPPlfZ3fjAxRb6Lpq/0Kx1HIa/4LNK4 YEBwcuqkol6p0Ht+KI3VkoirVsiBCGnt/6KED/WU1rTKOvMsjKa5Rth7IH9xdaPpqAxA pfeSaDds2twHboYJbmNFts7pohC1pBNL6YSIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=MHu1YNWMwrQKNOdrnCTn+UyOt/nl4mQG0tJX3nydz8dFEzJW0MfCK6/9lpnxNi7D/0 TNJ5VjMyL5wFeJ6Gpp0vT+UACVblJ9QDCo+g56h50ykv/12UCzg2BcKoqcjyK24rMhlS A7K6S330NoyiQTur7719HjQyVDhGmCNjTJ878= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:46:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4ch-PNB2fbLuSl7ysoN1hh7M43o Message-ID: Subject: Re: inexpensive synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <09GP1C.A.7oG.0MtUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:47:33 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > If you want uncompromising sound, get your favorite analog synth. > For "aggressive, gritty", why not simply a Virus? Well quite, since there is a Virus out there, why bother making another synth ever again!!! I mean, nothing can ever be different or better, its just not possible is it, just like music really, its all been done before hasn't it? FYI, that 2 minutes video sounds nothing like a virus! OK, a few seconds do... >If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, get a usb keyboard with decent action and some synth so... What a boring world we live in... thats the solution for everything really. Yesterday I was watching TV and saw a car advert that had the "James Bond - Man with the golden gun" stunt in it... I remember when that film came out, there was a cool buzz at school about how the guy that did it had got paid 1,000,000 dollars, and that it had all been calculated precisely, and when the stunt happened in the film, there was a cheer in the cinema I went to... Yesterday the stunt was (no doubt) performed by a computer... Yawn... Next... a 3D animated dancing tea-bag, Next, a talking cockroach! Can't we have something real occasionally? and leave the computer for stuff that NOTHING else can do? ...and many MANY pro keyboardists would not risk a laptop, and software on a tour. I remember My Bloody Valentine huddled around a sampler in a rack with the manual open, scratching their heads and that was a hardware sampler!!! With all the headaches that come with hard-drives, drivers, usb cables, and software just not working, its gonna be along time before that solution really is viable. -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:51:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2A92183474; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC881.F8A61D69" Subject: my hardware rig...Andy the O Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:51:25 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA21B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: my hardware rig...Andy the O Thread-Index: AcvIcq5ab0BMk/qcQoCP3dXRQdT8UgAAgWXg References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 17:51:43.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[036426F0:01CBC882] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC881.F8A61D69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well after a week of two to four am nights, I finally got everything working right on my rig!!! Man now what? Isn't it funny how easy it is to dodge actually the hard part, making music, by falling in the hole of wiring and programming and such!!!! Now I have no excuse, bummer.=20 Ok, here is my rig, feel free to delete if'n you don't care, but I think it's cool, lots of work money and time so I am proud of it!! Would love any comments, suggestions, ideas!!! First, stringed instruments; mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, electric mandolin, Tele, D-28, octave mandolin, mandocello, resonator round neck guitar, square neck dobro, upright bass, lap steel, pedal steel, fiddle, banjo, electric banjo.....all these setup with sounds dialed in presets on the Fishman Aura (the old one with midi control of presets, not the new ones, no midi, dumbasses!!) These go to wireless belt pack transmitter to Fishman Aura, programmed with all the stringed instrument setups. Aura to Digitech 1101, which changes the presets on the Aura by midi, so if I select electric banjo with effects, it makes sure the Aura preset is correct too. Digitech 1101 to the Rane cm86 mixer. =20 =20 The cm86 is the best looping mixer imho because the channel strip; which on the FRONT, gives you, top to bottom:::)> Mic/line switch, so you can, essentially, with one button, turn off the channel, or switch from a line send or mic send in that one channel. Next, two pot eq section, high and low, again with in/out switch. Next two aux sends with pre/post switch, which not sure why, but essentially acts as an on/off for the aux send as in pre you can barely hear it. Next it has a dual pot for two sends to the true stereo a/b outs, so a goes to my cue, b goes to the looper, great control over incoming loop signal on each channel of the mixer. Also a three way switch a/ab/b for the mains outs per channel, so if you don't want that channel in the looper, or only want it in the looper, not hearing it in the cue (looper set wet only), or a/b in both the looper and the cue, so an AWESOME way to flexibly route the output of each channel. So the main out b goes to the looper, then I route the looper output back thru a mixer channel that is output selected only to a, cue, so no feedback, and I have an easy way to control the mix levels of the looper and the other channels.=20 =20 Other of the seven channels remaining are, vdrums, yamaha tg55 as keys and simple synth, old hammond xm-1 organ module, two vocal mics (58's with switches on a double mic adaptor, one mic stand, so I can turn mic off at mic for less bleed buildup), extra channel for guest input or bass or whatever. Aux send A goes to one of two matching TC m300s with live realtime control of all functions through a Novation Remote SL. Each channel also has a dedicated insert loop, so for example on the organ channel I insert an audio volume pedal for the organ, or on each channel you could have a completely different fx unit or chain. The main A and B outs also have an insert loop too, pretty awesome mixer, also it has two main outs, so you can route the main outs and control the output of the two main outs from the front. All these are also switchable from mono to stereo. =20 On the midi, looping, recording side; LP1 as looper, of course eight channels of looper, controlled heavily and easily with the Novation and a midibuddy foot pedal, the Novation mmc controls set to treat the LP1 like a tape machine, eight pots for pan on each track, eight pots for feedback on each track, eight sliders for track vol, 24 buttons for all kinds of fun for control or audio mangling and eight drum pads that can be perc or program change sends and the two octave keyboard on the Novation, good enuf for a fake keyboardist like me.=20 =20 The LP1 sends midi start/stop to the Roland Vdrums for starting and stopping new loops and starting and stopping percussion if you are recording the percussion, and the vdrums send midi clock to the LP1 so you can sync the perc and save a track or for whatever reason you would want clock sync between the LP1 and Vdrums. If you don't record the perc track then you don't have level control on the Novation, but of course you would on the mixer. The second TC m300 I set up for post loop effects by routing the output of one of the aux outs on the LP1 straight to the M300 then back through tape in on the mixer, so then if I want to add m300 effects to an already recorded loop I can do that by just changing the output on the lp1 with with a midi command. The aux out or main out of each channel on the lp1 is selected by sending program change to the LP1, as of now it is only one or the other, hoping someday to have the ability to have the audio go out of mains and aux x simultaneously, but for effects on existing loop this is ok. Wondering where aux b went? Its dead on my cm86, gotta send it to Rane, but when its fixed and with enough rack space I would send to another fx unit and could have another fx unit for the other aux out on the lp1. Actually you could have even more fx options using the the mains out and two aux outs on the lps, as you can pan hard and actually have six analog signal out paths. All this controlled my midi of course. =20 Let's see, on the floor I have the Digitech Control 2 footswitch for the digitech 1101, kind of big but nice big screen, I can change presets here or on the 1101 template on the Novation. Then I have one midibuddy pedal, the vol pedal for organ and a wah pedal. On a keyboard stand I have my lap steel mounted, then on a frame mounted above that I have a "play standing up" set of vdrums, hh, two cymbals, two toms, then on the floor a kick pedal and hh controller. The lp1 and such are all mounted in one six space rack, the style with mixer rails on top, where I have the Novation, cm86 and lp1 mounted so I can see them easier. Then I have a Shure wireless monitor unit so I can go completely silent if I want. The rack is TOO HEAVY and I need one more rack space for the two half rack units for wireless transmit and wireless monitoring, so am gonna have to go with even a bigger rack case, this one http://www.vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=3D525 but look at = it, so cool!!! Hoping to have mixer and LP1 in the top section, Novation on the mixer rails and other rack stuff down below. Of course this is a big rack, but remember this is my live playing rig too, and at a minimum I usually take 6 to 8 instruments on a gig, hardly matters to be small, in a laptop or whatever, and even if I went to the dark side of software, it wouldn't change the size of my rig that much, so it has to cover all bases, so Europe is out!!!! (unless I ride over on a cruise ship lol!!) In my world and mind, having all my stuff in one rack case, just unload, wheel it out, take off the covers, where I have the foot stuff corralled, is pretty cool. Not sure about space yet, but thinking that if there is space, I might make this rack case my monitor unit too, maybe a small power amp and two twelves, then I am truly in one box. I can lift it now, with superhuman effort, but if it is a bit taller and on wheels this other rack will be much easier to handle. Also the inside of the rack is a total rats nest of wires, to find or fix anything in a hurry is almost impossible, when I get the new rack with more space gonna redo all that, solder my own exact length needed audio cables and get the wall wart situation better in control, add a really nice power conditioner, etc. When I look at what most of my buddies are carrying on the road as far as guitar racks, it's about the same size of space. Funny to be looking at new vehicles though and take your rack with you shopping to make sure it fits!!! =20 Well that's about it, I am using a nice California Blonde amp as monitor or the in the ear, but in the ear kind of a pain for hours of rehearsing.=20 =20 I am not sure it would be possible to be any further away from the dark side of software looping!!!!! Of course I could use a laptop for fx in one of the fx loops!!! =20 Well that's it, two years of work, yikes!!!! =20 Andy of the crazy O's =20 PS Caveat on the Rane CM86. Very hard to find for some reason, and they don't make them anymore. They are also very prone to blowing the output chips if you hot wire them (plug stuff in while it is powered up) I think this is why you don't see many on the used market, people probably blow those and assume they cant sell it because not all the routing functions work when that happens. I talked to Rane about it at NAMM and they said those chips were a bad design and they have new ones now, so I am gonna send my TWO spares in, get them going, then pull this one and send it too. Still an awesome unit for three rack spaces. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC881.F8A61D69 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well after = a week of two to four am nights, I finally got everything working right = on my rig!!! Man now what? Isn’t it funny how easy it is to dodge = actually the hard part, making music, by falling in the hole of wiring = and programming and such!!!! Now I have no excuse, bummer.

Ok, = here is my rig, feel free to delete if'n you don’t care, but I = think it’s cool, lots of work money and time so I am proud of it!! = Would love any comments, suggestions, ideas!!!

First, stringed = instruments; mandolin, mandola, electric mandola, electric mandolin, = Tele, D-28, octave mandolin, mandocello, resonator round neck guitar, = square neck dobro, upright bass, lap steel, pedal steel, fiddle, banjo, = electric banjo…..all these setup with sounds dialed in presets on = the Fishman Aura (the old one with midi control of presets, not the new = ones, no midi, dumbasses!!) These go to wireless belt pack transmitter = to Fishman Aura, programmed with all the stringed instrument setups. = Aura to Digitech 1101, which changes the presets on the Aura by midi, so = if I select electric banjo with effects, it makes sure the Aura preset = is correct too. Digitech 1101 to the Rane cm86 mixer. =  

 

The cm86 is the best looping mixer imho because the = channel strip; which on the FRONT, gives you, top to bottom:::)> = Mic/line switch, so you can, essentially, with one button, turn off the = channel, or switch from a line send or mic send in that one channel. = Next, two pot eq section, high and low, again with in/out switch. Next = two aux sends with pre/post switch, which not sure why, but essentially = acts as an on/off for the aux send as in pre you can barely hear it. = Next it has a dual pot for two sends to the true stereo a/b outs, so a = goes to my cue, b goes to the looper, great control over incoming loop = signal on each channel of the mixer. Also a three way switch a/ab/b for = the mains outs per channel, so if you don’t want that channel in = the looper, or only want it in the looper, not hearing it in the cue = (looper set wet only), or a/b in both the looper and the cue, so an = AWESOME way to flexibly route the output of each channel. So the main = out b goes to the looper, then I route the looper output back thru a = mixer channel that is output selected only to a, cue, so no feedback, = and I have an easy way to control the mix levels of the looper and the = other channels. 

 

Other of the = seven channels remaining are, vdrums, yamaha tg55 as keys and simple = synth, old hammond xm-1 organ module, two vocal mics (58's with switches = on a double mic adaptor, one mic stand, so I can turn mic off at mic for = less bleed buildup), extra channel for guest input or bass or whatever. = Aux send A goes to one of two matching TC m300s with live realtime = control of all functions through a Novation Remote SL. Each channel also = has a dedicated insert loop, so for example on the organ channel I = insert an audio volume pedal for the organ, or on each channel you could = have a completely different fx unit or chain. The main A and B outs also = have an insert loop too, pretty awesome mixer, also it has two main = outs, so you can route the main outs and control the output of the two = main outs from the front. All these are also switchable from mono to = stereo.

 

On the midi, looping, recording side; LP1 as looper, = of course eight channels of looper, controlled heavily and easily with = the Novation and a midibuddy foot pedal, the Novation mmc controls set = to treat the LP1 like a tape machine, eight pots for pan on each track, = eight pots for feedback on each track,  eight sliders for track = vol, 24 buttons for all kinds of fun for control or audio mangling and = eight drum pads that can be perc or program change sends and the two = octave keyboard on the Novation, good enuf for a fake keyboardist like = me.

 

The LP1 sends midi start/stop to the Roland Vdrums for = starting and stopping new loops and starting and stopping percussion if = you are recording the percussion, and the vdrums send midi clock to the = LP1 so you can sync the perc and save a track or for whatever reason you = would want clock sync between the LP1 and Vdrums. If you don’t = record the perc track then you don’t have level control on the = Novation, but of course you would on the mixer. The second TC m300 I set = up for post loop effects by routing the output of one of the aux outs on = the LP1 straight to the M300 then back through tape in on the mixer, so = then if I want to add m300 effects to an already recorded loop I can do = that by just changing the output on the lp1 with with a midi command. = The aux out or main out of each channel on the lp1 is selected by = sending program change to the LP1, as of now it is only one or the = other, hoping someday to have the ability to have the audio go out of = mains and aux x simultaneously, but for effects on existing loop this is = ok. Wondering where aux b went? Its dead on my cm86, gotta send it to = Rane, but when its fixed and with enough rack space I would send to = another fx unit and could have another fx unit for the other aux out on = the lp1. Actually you could have even more fx options using the the = mains out and two aux outs on the lps, as you can pan hard and actually = have six analog signal out paths. All this controlled my midi of = course.

 

Let’s see, on the floor I have the Digitech = Control 2 footswitch for the digitech 1101, kind of big but nice big = screen, I can change presets here or on the 1101 template on the = Novation. Then I have one midibuddy pedal, the vol pedal for organ and a = wah pedal. On a keyboard stand I have my lap steel mounted, then on a = frame mounted above that I have a “play standing up” set of = vdrums, hh, two cymbals, two toms, then on the floor a kick pedal and hh = controller. The lp1 and such are all mounted in one six space rack, the = style with mixer rails on top, where I have the Novation, cm86 and lp1 = mounted so I can see them easier.  Then I have a Shure wireless = monitor unit so I can go completely silent if I want. The rack is TOO = HEAVY and I need one more rack space for the two half rack units for = wireless transmit and wireless monitoring, so am gonna have to go with = even a bigger rack case, this one http:/= /www.vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=3D525 but look at it, = so cool!!!  Hoping to have mixer and LP1 in the top section, = Novation on the mixer rails and other rack stuff down below. Of course = this is a big rack, but remember this is my live playing rig too, and at = a minimum I usually take 6 to 8 instruments on a gig, hardly matters to = be small, in a laptop or whatever, and even if I went to the dark side = of software, it wouldn’t change the size of my rig that much, so = it has to cover all bases, so Europe is out!!!! (unless I ride over on a = cruise ship lol!!) In my world and mind, having all my stuff in one rack = case, just unload, wheel it out, take off the covers, where I have the = foot stuff corralled, is pretty cool. Not sure about space yet, but = thinking that if there is space, I might make this rack case my monitor = unit too, maybe a small power amp and two twelves, then I am truly in = one box. I can lift it now, with superhuman effort, but if it is a bit = taller and on wheels this other rack will be much easier to handle. Also = the inside of the rack is a total rats nest of wires, to find or fix = anything in a hurry is almost impossible, when I get the new rack with = more space gonna redo all that, solder my own exact length needed audio = cables and get the wall wart situation better in control, add a really = nice power conditioner, etc. When I look at what most of my buddies are = carrying on the road as far as guitar racks, it’s about the same = size of space. Funny to be looking at new vehicles though and take your = rack with you shopping to make sure it fits!!!

 

Well = that’s about it, I am using a nice California Blonde amp as = monitor or the in the ear, but in the ear kind of a pain for hours of = rehearsing.

 

I am not sure it would be possible to be any further = away from the dark side of software looping!!!!! Of course I could use a = laptop for fx in one of the fx loops!!!

 

Well = that’s it, two years of work, yikes!!!!

 

Andy of the = crazy O’s

 

PS  = Caveat on the Rane CM86. Very hard to find for some reason, and they = don’t make them anymore. They are also very prone to blowing the = output chips if you hot wire them (plug stuff in while it is powered up) = I think this is why you don’t see many on the used market, people = probably blow those and assume they cant sell it because not all the = routing functions work when that happens. I talked to Rane about it at = NAMM and they said those chips were a bad design and they have new ones = now, so I am gonna send my TWO spares in, get them going, then pull this = one and send it too. Still an awesome unit for three rack = spaces.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC881.F8A61D69-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:55:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D7F183466; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC882.7055DFF0" Subject: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:54:46 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA220@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Soft Step real feedback please Thread-Index: AcvIgI1QuQjMfNGCQhyw6VrI7BoUGQAAMmZA References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 17:55:44.0901 (UTC) FILETIME=[93134B50:01CBC882] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC882.7055DFF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Billiam, I stomped on one at NAMM, and it seemed fine to me, very nice = and tight and solid feeling unit and button push. And in looking at the = programming on their computers there, looked pretty easy, but haven't = tried it my own self. The four way switch on the right was easier to use = than it looks. =20 =20 =20 From: William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Soft Step real feedback please =20 The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental = fish, to wit: Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not like it, or was that sarcasm? and=20 I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the = softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on the = softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate your = purchase. =20 =20 Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, = someone please give some real world answers to my real world questions. = Is it the learning curve or the latency, or the friggin shag carpet you = happen to me putting your Soft step on, or the fact its a bit to small = and thin to use with your favorite combat boots? it seems to me it would = be best mounted on an angled pedal board to make the back tier more = accessable. I would really appreciate more detail about this. Thanks Bill ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC882.7055DFF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Billiam, I stomped on one at NAMM, and it seemed fine to me, very = nice and tight and solid feeling unit and button push. And in looking at = the programming on their computers there, looked pretty easy, but = haven’t tried it my own self. The four way switch on the right was = easier to use than it looks.

 

 

 

From:= = William Walker [mailto:billwalker@baymoon.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:41 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Soft Step real = feedback please

 

 The = answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental fish, = to wit:
Features aside, = just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may = not
like it, or was that = sarcasm?

and =
I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the = softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on the = softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate your = purchase.  

 

Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, = someone please give some real world answers  to my real world = questions.  Is it the learning curve or the latency, or the friggin = shag carpet you happen to me putting your Soft step on, or the fact its = a bit to small and thin to use with your favorite combat boots? it seems = to me it would be best mounted on an angled pedal board to make the back = tier more accessable. I would really appreciate more detail about = this.

 Thanks

 Bill

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC882.7055DFF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 17:57:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16DDD183475; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53--1008007135 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:57:36 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-53--1008007135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have trouble using it 1) sitting down and 2) on the padded carpet in =20= my studio , so I am making an angled board to put under it for my next =20= round of tests. On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:41 AM, William Walker wrote: > The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of =20 > ornamental fish, to wit: > Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not > like it, or was that sarcasm? > and > I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with =20 > the softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys =20= > on the softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you =20 > contemplate your purchase. > > Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, =20= > someone please give some real world answers to my real world =20 > questions. Is it the learning curve or the latency, or the friggin =20= > shag carpet you happen to me putting your Soft step on, or the fact =20= > its a bit to small and thin to use with your favorite combat boots? =20= > it seems to me it would be best mounted on an angled pedal board to =20= > make the back tier more accessable. I would really appreciate more =20 > detail about this. > Thanks > Bill --Apple-Mail-53--1008007135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have trouble using it 1) = sitting down and 2) on the padded carpet in my studio , so I am making = an angled board to put under it for my next round of = tests. 
 
On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:41 AM, William = Walker wrote:

 The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond = of ornamental fish, to wit:
Features aside, just try = "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not
like it, or was that = sarcasm?
and 
I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing = standing with the softstep because I have a much easier time mashing = down the keys on the softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as = you contemplate your = purchase.  

Come on folks, even if you have to spill your = beans to me off list, someone please give some real world answers =  to my real world questions.  Is it the learning curve or the = latency, or the friggin shag carpet you happen to me putting your Soft = step on, or the fact its a bit to small and thin to use with your = favorite combat boots? it seems to me it would be best mounted on an = angled pedal board to make the back tier more accessable. I would really = appreciate more detail about this.
 Thanks
 The answers I've = been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental fish, to = wit:

I was just trying to = take some time to help you buddy. Sorry it somehow ended up pissing you = off. Kind of caught me off guard. I will try to rephrase my previous = statement you quoted and add some more:

I do not like = sitting down and playing the softstep.
It works for me much = better when I stand and play.

To answer your = question from this last email:
I do not have my on an angled = pedalboard so I can't answer that question from experience but I do = agree that I think that would solve the problem of the two rows of keys = being on the same level.

I use it in standalone = mode and I love it so far. It is the reason I have been so productive = lately. 

Not sure what you mean by = latency? Midi latency? If so, no I do not feel any delay from the moment = I press to the key to the moment that the function is = executed.

I would be happy to continue to help = you and answer any of your real world questions. I do agree though with = the first person that you quoted. Your not going to know whether its for = you or not till you try it. Less talk, more walk. We can talk about = though to make sure it's worth your time investment to try it. On or off = list. I can tell you my experience and I am not trying to hide that from = anybody. 


-Todd = Matthews




=




= --Apple-Mail-1--1007735609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:02:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 531E9183475; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.8766FD4C" Subject: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:02:34 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA22B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Soft Step real feedback please Thread-Index: AcvIgtkXuzcetPgnSQa68GJiC/bytAAAfxNw References: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 18:02:46.0445 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E55CDD0:01CBC883] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:02:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.8766FD4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah I could see that on sitting down, like the midibuddy pedal is about the same size but the layer on the upper side is raised up, makes it way better, I can see where being flat like that would be an issue. =20 Hey Zoe want some gluten free pancake batter mix??? By the way YOU ROCK!!! =20 Andy ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.8766FD4C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah I could see that on sitting down, like the midibuddy pedal is = about the same size but the layer on the upper side is raised up, makes = it way better, I can see where being flat like that would be an = issue.

 

Hey Zoe want some gluten free pancake batter mix??? By the way YOU = ROCK!!!

 

Andy

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.8766FD4C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:04:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29F33183482; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LF4CNF1TxtSjxnwtBno767rmylpefet90OOP3EF7JPI=; b=rd5eQ5SuokzxhmlZ5IvgYOcbpZFKTQZgsltjtSahCrYTY2zJ3LCRqGZTp4J6xjLC+J 7XWe9kPBAOEjOOXvVuMLBGSMx4UWYfTc1c2RlaiSUZhE92sa4NQDz4Gj79wCKPU2h520 8zj/IUKz0P3c/nnrLO7H3vKGWETLInnassQO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fZd6cDgW7uhgJ5IxXWUjJaUq/GLI0JtaMCuyhFGRSgSA7USC3adUvbLLDnFsFVmkBe Jab4TTuIqS1d0ET+ZHLj7GkeZle80nUix/HwJRqZYvRU7WKSv3p2KgVAUXZ7G7im1aU7 5RZ7ZVlpKj3fRvCUdt7PxonkjZexV1DVlHmQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:03:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 64 bit software loopers? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys, I just noticed Bidule is releasing a 64 bit version now and downloaded it. Next discovery wasn't equally fun; not many of my plug-ins yet exist by 64 bit code - but enough of them to go minimal. Nice to see that Augustus Loop can be used for a Bidule based 64 bit looping environment. For reverb there is the free Matrix Reverb by Apple and BTW all free Apple plug-ins are 64 bit. And the PSP Pianoverb too. So I'm pretty well set in that department. An important point for me in using Bidule as the host is to be able to use computer key quick commands for the Mobius looper (blocked out in Mainstage). Anyone know if Mobius is scheduled to go 64 bit soon? Until then I think I will experiment with 64 bit Mainstage as the host for Augustus Loop, not a bad combo that either. Two points in experimenting with 64 bit code for live looping is to see how much shorter latency you really get down to and also to get more bang for your CPU cycles. Yes, I know 64 bit Mainstage can also run old 32 bit plugins, but if you do that you're not in for the CPU boost. A third point in going 64 bit is that you can use more than 4 GB RAM on the box, but for live looping that isn't as crucial as for some other music production applications (like using virtual symphonic orchestra setups with extremely huge sampler libraries). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:05:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 823F018348D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <2E3A6428-9DCD-4AB6-B5B7-48FBE77A126D@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA22B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-54--1007533332 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:05:30 -0800 References: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA22B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:05:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-54--1007533332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmm...pancakes ;-) On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Yeah I could see that on sitting down, like the midibuddy pedal is > about the same size but the layer on the upper side is raised up, > makes it way better, I can see where being flat like that would be > an issue. > > Hey Zoe want some gluten free pancake batter mix??? By the way YOU > ROCK!!! > > Andy --Apple-Mail-54--1007533332 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mmm...pancakes = ;-)

On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Andy Owens = wrote:

Yeah I could see that on = sitting down, like the midibuddy pedal is about the same size but the = layer on the upper side is raised up, makes it way better, I can see = where being flat like that would be an = issue.
Hey = Zoe want some gluten free pancake batter mix??? By the way YOU = ROCK!!!
In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA22B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Soft Step real feedback please Thread-Index: AcvIgtkXuzcetPgnSQa68GJiC/bytAAAfxNwAADZCAA= References: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA22B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 18:06:46.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DAC71F0:01CBC884] Resent-Message-ID: <4YfrTD.A.wjH.4etUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.FD8AF785 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way all the stations they had a NAMM to try it were standing up style lol. They had six or eight computers with all kinds of software for it to control. =20 THEY said no more software issues, but of course maybe or maybe not we know better? Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.FD8AF785 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

By the way all the stations they had a NAMM to try it were standing = up style lol. They had six or eight computers with all kinds of software = for it to control.

 

THEY said no more software issues, but of course maybe or maybe not = we know better?


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------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC883.FD8AF785-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:07:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1BB18348F; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=4vqXa/Sar11P9mR/5fHtcu5RuZPdGBiJsxeghirdcaU=; b=hw8KThD1Yr3+Fdg9AHtccJ2Isbri2M9+ZS2CeT2RBbPDeW8FCc2h5Fw7I8wMjZSTrm XR0chv7QFb/m7YK7kSXO9YDTXzPElrs7MgcFmBM1mBwjXzQmlvYJ/YFug1xrgesGDDMl CocRzOMZbNAYEeRK3yzEY5nSMwmAaKUZv9nLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ulEpWlDLdQcWIyEaF9VhgzCX4EAOLrILqmA9qkKQID88KQ+GOgDrvpS0lakPWtNrzp wWvyXn04J7/M7g+wUF0h7r/0rzVxOqdMU024A0BUzvsLmv8biVotfrlXAAesrsMF0ne0 uTubv0HCY7cvP1IhIn5dMAYwkG1xUZm1lDmBk= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:07:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2F205CDB-F18D-4E5B-8A01-2A7249E2A3B9@gmail.com> References: <084D1F57-E8E8-41FF-8553-E47473A08467@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I have trouble using it 1) sitting down and 2) on the padded carpet in = my studio , so I am making an angled board to put under it for my next = round of tests. I forgot to mention it before, and I'm sure you probably already = know.... but make sure to download the latest firmware (VJ26) as well as = the latest software before your next round of tests.=20 Angled board is an excellent idea. -Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:11:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF331834AB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z6V+Utl+Z8WQVWqkLCtwJlPDWUu0LLTjoGBLW8SN+ZQ=; b=Qmn0nfqsjq5RDgHjgFV8vyfHNobN5wv5B/ww6cnsrO6OJ6UOj5VF8vSgzqrIP9mckF eP+Pv8alsz0H9e+vGjWAd1zGng6174ZqGJI2F4uhFo2/p6D2zb15Wf0J2wARUbJmE8N+ //rn5Qay4DoqxrXNPxYEFBYWHCLWwaRPOVUL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gw1lxROIu7LWHVmQHvkKRM8eCVgDjiLqL8O+HMUiKHDQfg8/9tIEGtPXV7dYu0X9Ew LgdPdXpOsGkTcXGY+WGDjxettWKbJtpYchjbZ/joCGiz5P/44sIDdQBTkuj3QZS7NFe+ +oeg9PQ2MFMUTDkWd0M6tNFH7XotIUCC9dVa0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:10:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JdQdHGCl9c6SMnK37sSKNXOWK10 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Sorry for being coy Bill, I guess you are late to the party if you dont know, but for most people, the software totally sucks, its buggy, huge in memory and cpu requirements, not particularly hard to get to grips with, quite user friendly really, the main selling point of it being " a controller for you feet" with XY directions and what-not, just aint true.. its not possible to control ANYTHING other than sudden uncontrolled CC leaps... the pedals are NOT magical surfaces that react subtly to tiny muscular movements, frankly the design fault is mostly one in you feet than the pedal, you can use yer size 10s like a mouse! But for me, hence my comment, its the feel of the pedals themselves that meant that it had to go back, THEY DONT CLICK.. at all, I never knew it before (always having had pedals that click) but I need a click!!! I couldnt rest my feet on the top of the pedal, without triggering it, if I reduced the sensitivity (oh yes you can adjust EVERYTHING) then I could stamp on it and it wouldn't change... so there I was with my foot hovering in mid air... cramp set in! Im sure all the software issues will be fixed, the lack of click wont, so... I repeat... try yer foot on one.. you might not like it.. I didnt! Mark On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:41 PM, William Walker wro= te: > =A0The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental > fish, to wit: > Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not > like it, or was that sarcasm? > and > I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the > softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on the > softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate your > purchase. > Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, someo= ne > please give some real world answers =A0to my real world questions. =A0Is = it the > learning curve or the latency, or the friggin shag carpet you happen to m= e > putting your Soft step on, or the fact its a bit to small and thin to use > with your favorite combat boots? it seems to me it would be best mounted = on > an angled pedal board to make the back tier more accessable. I would real= ly > appreciate more detail about this. > =A0Thanks > =A0Bill --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:18:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C28B1834AE; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: OT: Software/Tools used by Legendary From: tyler newman In-Reply-To: <20110209175148.4CD3F18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:18:19 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A80F88E-5D44-4624-9AE0-CE97820EBCC2@batterycage.com> References: <20110209175148.4CD3F18347D@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:18:21 +0000 (UTC) hi- > Does anyone have a lead on what types of hardware/software synths = Ka-Spel is using on the new album? The track: God and Machines, for = example..... wow. the past few times i've seen them live, the silverman has been using a = roland v-synth...making extensive use of the d-beam and touchpad. = there's also a laptop onstage, which i think is running ableton live (i = think)... given how long they've been around, they probably have quite a few older = synths at their disposal, though it's really hard to discern any = recognizable sounds on their albums... - tyler / informatik= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:22:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6901F1834A8; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110209180651.1790B1834A5@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1006493987 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:22:49 -0800 References: <20110209180651.1790B1834A5@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <2asxaD.A.7P.AutUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:22:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1006493987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd, I'm not pissed off, I'm just frustrated that it seems like everyone has been so hush hush about this for a while and I wanted some insight in to the why of it all. The first thing that struck me bout the SS is that because its so thin and light, one could possibly have the same issue as standing at one end of a canoe, and that the back teir would prove to be problematic when seated. Incidently Zoe, something like this, http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/ though it would add a couple of pounds might be ideal for creating an angle for the SS, as well as giving it a bit more weight so the uniti doesn't move when touching it. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--1006493987 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Todd, I'm not pissed off, I'm just frustrated that it seems like everyone has been so hush hush about this for a while and I wanted some insight in to the why of it all.
The first thing that struck me bout the SS is that because its so thin and light,  one could possibly have the same issue as standing at one end of a canoe, and that the back teir would prove to be problematic when seated. Incidently Zoe, something like this, http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/  though it would add a couple of pounds might be ideal for creating an angle for the SS, as well as giving it a bit more weight so the uniti doesn't move when touching it.
 Bill
--Apple-Mail-2--1006493987-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:30:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 161E71834C0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBC887.5FFA69F0" Subject: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:30:06 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA256@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Soft Step real feedback please Thread-Index: AcvIhmH288yO2reaQYmhBi0FODm2PwAAeCKw References: <20110209180651.1790B1834A5@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 18:30:08.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[6125F9D0:01CBC887] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:30:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC887.5FFA69F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know Willie, it's not all that light, pretty dang solid piece of gear when I held it, and the way it is designed with regard to the button covers and such, very sturdy imho. =20 Now if it lasts forever and doesn't work worth a crap, I guess that is even more frustrating!!! =20 I have run over three treos and two iphones and an lxp1 with my truck though, so stuff needs to work in my world or it is destined for the tarmac!!!! (or the shooting range!!) =20 Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC887.5FFA69F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You know Willie, it’s not all that light, pretty dang solid = piece of gear when I held it, and the way it is designed with regard to = the button covers and such, very sturdy imho.

 

Now if it lasts forever and doesn’t work worth a crap, I guess = that is even more frustrating!!!

 

I have run over three treos and two iphones and an lxp1 with my truck = though, so stuff needs to work in my world or it is destined for the = tarmac!!!! (or the shooting range!!)

 

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBC887.5FFA69F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:36:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF9F71834CD; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=636bT8jvf8ofJtK1exAnNTqlAt2oW8L0lByO3YkuTro=; b=MfJ9b5QFC/VV6YaRNpZ5ONR0NvTEIjx8776dE6i2Fx5S9vlXIftOYczvpw7BrPmP+L Th+HqhSdDDKbSBlvs+u8/HSxzzwixSz8UbgVtdrqlQMVhcsk1GTwmIoGWsJb9n7dZz+K mhs8V5aDoYLa7zO553NG/7CDq63Q2Uy39Z5OM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Fx/povry7agv6MWkKisKJWJgcLMi6OtVrjmtAUX1UXvjfIVU6cbGD28J/17NBWrkNd I+t99MXuCvK8IVn4VSM92CbfnpzJ8NqLMQayEbQtWwr/9vRyB/iuLlzDjrWJjBAufhLA ZaojrOkmTvaeHY3IJvb3pqZzm3VXUIpBU4znM= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1005695071 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:36:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110209180651.1790B1834A5@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: <1F507DAD-51CA-40DF-B329-596D7BE4187C@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1005695071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mine got tossed in the closet for a few months when I first got it = because it was unusable for me and standalone was not functional. Maybe = this could be why you haven't heard much about it since everybody was = waiting to see if the updates would fix the problems or not. (after our = initial anger :) )As of this last update Softstep works great for me but = standalone mode is still in beta meaning that you can only use 4 scenes = ... supposedly they are releasing the next update sometime this week = that will increase this up to 16 scenes for standalone mode.=20 Using their software , that is based on Max/msp take up close to 1 gig = of memory on my system which is one of the reasons I use it in = standalone mode. Jeff Larson has stated that he is starting work on a = Softstep "Light" software that will use much less resources.=20 -Todd Matthews On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:22 PM, William Walker wrote: >=20 > Todd, I'm not pissed off, I'm just frustrated that it seems like = everyone has been so hush hush about this for a while and I wanted some = insight in to the why of it all. > The first thing that struck me bout the SS is that because its so thin = and light, one could possibly have the same issue as standing at one = end of a canoe, and that the back teir would prove to be problematic = when seated. Incidently Zoe, something like this, = http://prostagegear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/ though it would add = a couple of pounds might be ideal for creating an angle for the SS, as = well as giving it a bit more weight so the uniti doesn't move when = touching it. > Bill --Apple-Mail-2--1005695071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Mine = got tossed in the closet for a few months when I first got it because it = was unusable for me and standalone was not functional. Maybe this could = be why you haven't heard much about it since everybody was waiting to = see if the updates would fix the problems or not. (after our initial = anger :) )As of this last update Softstep works great for me but = standalone mode is still in beta meaning that you can only use 4 scenes = ... supposedly they are releasing the next update sometime this week = that will increase this up to 16 scenes for standalone = mode. 
Using their software , that is based on Max/msp take up = close to 1 gig of memory on my system which is one of the reasons I use = it in standalone mode. Jeff Larson has stated that he is starting work = on a Softstep "Light" software that will use much less = resources. 

-Todd = Matthews
On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:22 PM, William Walker = wrote:

http://prostag= egear.com/products/pedalboards/mini/  though it would add = a couple of pounds might be ideal for creating an angle for the SS, as = well as giving it a bit more weight so the uniti doesn't move when = touching = it.
 Bill





= --Apple-Mail-2--1005695071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 18:42:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 947F61834D6; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 574952738/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRcR/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="574952738" Message-ID: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:42:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:42:35 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > Come on folks, another question you should be asking is "does it work without a computer?" andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 19:13:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65EFB18347D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vQNleMwOKjBA711xY20miRGldZLVbSU+2GYld42amfM=; b=titGWrAvX4TJwGPQlnGNwY5mLz4O0KujZl7ipX3RX0bRmH3iFP3lkgtby9uDhGzFUB AyVRnuNWA3fq5l8AayVCgiMSM8Oyi/f6J5/ehpy1N8cXlxpR14GCMnGDqDr4v04Y2VGz wYH4ENu8AEh3I3BQnPnCNtMZ3DbX1jYx5BP60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b033tYn7HYLm/8OFQv2TtKzLgJfuK5BseuBr7YkgkFQCdPlKNacfnlAG//d8YFChSB 2+tOL0VR82FBmkXVFTEo6QLlVS8c4TxNavU7cVlOkf94taW3otsFaU6fk3EXB+Jn2OHr VsWB0q6b5Y4SWqXN2zcgrvCR+EZogcPc62HWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA21B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07AFA21B@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: my hardware rig...Andy the O From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da98b994e8af049bde407c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6da98b994e8af049bde407c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I comprehended most of that, and it was all fun to read. Congratulations! I hear ya on the no more excuses for not playing. I am currently in the hole (and full of bad excuses) as we speak, wiring, making cable, programming, replacing capacitors.... :) Happy pickin'! Adam --0016e6da98b994e8af049bde407c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I comprehended most of that, and it was all fun to read. =A0Congratulations= ! =A0I hear ya on the no more excuses for not playing. =A0I am currently in= the hole (and full of bad excuses) as we speak, wiring, making cable, prog= ramming, replacing capacitors.... :)

Happy pickin'!
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--0016e6da98b994e8af049bde407c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 19:36:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E581C18349F; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rcNEa9E06VYNBkr0kUL36K2ejbX5kkVMV3DZHYm5x8w=; b=ikzqcqHfriZb6RG08JvvTqgQ4/yB5Y0t3g/Eaq9t+TLKpKtBX+JJM5ad/chmY6FkPO zNnhky+syx0PsyUP9l7gpEjJ9w4pExVIcs6ig3U2IBcaK712Ne1KjySefoQmNdfwKPBm PXLdXhXMwDP6Jp3B6QuJCNZ/xYMEIQdA4UaNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ENRd9fBi1HYLIyZhOyrnuld58hnXgt3BdRsMBjYcTI/aurNYLUtqCmZxflfbkJJYa/ sKENMdBZEsz/sCScY4MRPsD5Ul2dsslZ2J3xU1EksVg2p4Oc+T2y7R5xS/7Qkn1WcSeH wg1draBK8iw3DdgT2GypDj+odORddvR1Xrae0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:36:36 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, andy butler wrote: > another question you should be asking is > > "does it work without a computer?" Isn't that what people mean by saying "the standalone version"? As I understood it this is said to be functional at some point in the future... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:03:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC4851834A4; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=yQ/oeqSHIPG7GK3veHXb1bXGm3WEJXsMZ/Md2lfJt6E=; b=xv9kGNRO6L9NrrxoJsEV3G37VDtTGWwpL42xwadU/LiTjLcW5D9EfcNPd/qs+dsYeY 2vhX2hdboiUUuEto0giyk4cK2w/eDNJ03Ox2rRxTbByTb9Vfc10EtgZ3+zmTdrJkmXS6 UNKKbnA74CTmjkF5RrTGEH392nWxRrrRbGMdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Luh4li/whkDQ9z9CD908ItureVzud7TLc0Ww1XzHWpoP1n5YMZgQq4U1XIYGm2pbTY IttFblG7E5i1k5OSNjl5Lbmimz1nHdDhLdi5o4GoLtHDT8EcH26VY0g8fFmzI5nK9Wbg uy2Wt8PJUMlU537n5eKH7eX5Q3Tzk61NH3H5s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:02:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MzzTlB3dgT0GUhZzTWPDUr30kyU Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) The answer is yes, it does work without a computer... already I believe, but only 4 scenes working AFAIK.. Mark On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM, andy butler wrote: > William Walker wrote: > >> Come on folks, > > > another question you should be asking is > > "does it work without a computer?" > > andy > > > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:03:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 347041834AB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QJjKUWTrZOLL4tTe3iC1ztd/+LeKJhTWm2NDsGoO0nc=; b=txouSxw3J5r0u4j3e1gXdqRr3X9YYiNmgQ14f8XOijBudZF3Jzi5wdUZaSToeIWdgA PRjzccMmfwDSfAExvLMSKBHwZZiQp7pJivHWlbsieEt0aZZmmEWOEWHzZuiHhC1kPS+p 1fkVlQCLob4jp3w6L23ZbHebS/5QSX5qcx7k0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YqNVOZkuvAGpJHNdy+bkQqwxLIFxXylrvd2ZgeuFtCQVPYvPvQh0GxxmE+be1ZNUv1 FYS8W0FY1WQjR61S2nlzZ5zaAgUztQqul+j4tIxoJ+6PVmZTkMWpbiHQ+2Zh57K4UzBT jUYr+Mk7kUlztTVTj3RXAyyrii4tKPGj2UXyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:03:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5adb6431ef4049bdef47d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:03:11 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5adb6431ef4049bdef47d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >another question you should be asking is > >does it work without a computer? No. You need a computer with the SoftStep software to program the pedal, absolutely. Their Mac software has been coming out faster than Windows as of late, but they'll catch up. Yes. After the initial programming you can operate it in standalone mode. Not all features are supported in standalone, but most are. Todd has a few vids with it in operation. ++More info from me: I still can't do standalone mode because I am on 10.5 Leopard (works in 10.6 Snow Leopard). The software crashes when I try to "Download" my settings into the pedal's memory. I've heard they are fixing that too. I like the feel of the pedal. I am a rhythmic loopster with 2 EDP's. The timing of my presses is much better with the SoftStep than the TGE04 Echoplex Foot Controller and the FCB1010 (for sure on the FCB). That is what I like the best. I also like that there is no noise with the presses. I like that it is 1/4 of an inch off the ground right there for my foot. I could see the rubber wedge idea being something I would want to try for sure though to elevate the back row. I don't like the software, it is confusing. Looks like a fighter jet cockpit to me. The manual is not that detailed or organized. Not to mention the bugs out the wazoo. I, and they, will figure it out eventually. Once this neat-looking pedal works for me I plan to do a lot more playing around controlling vox fx (midiVerbs) using the pressure sensors [sic], latching, yada, yada, yada. BTW if you're willing to do some digging there have been a lot of SoftStep threads on this list, on the Yahoo SoftStep list, and a bit of info on the Keith McMillian user forums. Mostly frustrated cries for help and complaining, but a few bright spots. --001636c5adb6431ef4049bdef47d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >another question you should be asking is=A0
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>does= it work without a computer?

No. You need a comput= er with the SoftStep software to program the pedal, absolutely. =A0Their Ma= c software has been coming out faster than Windows as of late, but they'= ;ll catch up.

Yes. After the initial programming you can operate it i= n standalone mode. =A0Not all features are supported in standalone, but mos= t are. =A0Todd has a few vids with it in operation.

++More info from me:
I still can't do standalone mode because= I am on 10.5 Leopard (works in 10.6 Snow Leopard). =A0The software crashes= when I try to "Download" my settings into the pedal's memory= . =A0I've heard they are fixing that too.

I like the feel of the pedal. =A0I am a=A0rhythmic loop= ster with 2 EDP's. The timing of my presses is much better with the Sof= tStep than the=A0TGE04 Echoplex Foot Controller and the FCB1010 (for sure o= n the FCB). =A0That is what I like the best. =A0I also like that there is n= o noise with the presses. =A0I like that it is 1/4 of an inch off the groun= d right there for my foot. =A0I could see the rubber wedge idea being somet= hing I would want to try for sure though to elevate the back row.

I don't like the software, it is confusing. =A0Look= s like a fighter jet cockpit to me. =A0The manual is not that detailed or o= rganized. =A0Not to mention the bugs out the wazoo. =A0I, and they, will fi= gure it out eventually. =A0

Once this neat-looking pedal works for me I plan to do = a lot more playing around controlling=A0vox fx=A0(midiVerbs) using the pres= sure sensors [sic], latching, yada, yada, yada.=A0

BTW if you're willing to do some digging there have been a lot of Soft= Step threads on this list, on the Yahoo SoftStep list, and a bit of info on= the Keith McMillian user forums. =A0Mostly frustrated cries for help and c= omplaining, but a few bright spots.
--001636c5adb6431ef4049bdef47d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:08:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61F761834A1; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zYVRd5Um8PRcIdMe21ZaR8u/oxK0LirPxOi+m2aLLoI=; b=w5xpamJB9AmFXD8fkH7FiIag0mNALNwrD+dkXWkHokYhJ0QiiI1t+bPhVxJcWpiKqx bfiiXp2LnDmbsCgx+7svwulFUF5WdDOzrHM5Zi5xhyOofZ6eq3xI8IFHEorDUwyt8X+M MdLEP/QgriW6GscXgKBJTc+DB2Sc/fuTj651k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ChWyv/+SAqXwgRq9gOmICkaPoSpzQ/m81+VnxIBHv2V6KLM4zBPgNmY6CNT5d2sJJO m0NWP5cJ52PUMI6XuXU0O5QfPE2GjHwbkAW1xUYtTRqim7XSvRUydizkkadsW6Di3g+q cfBoq8OXSajgcGBC3L+0X/AJxXHW2qfoWR5CM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:07:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3kYX8Ol53vrPaySt1WVz-bwf_Lo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2NLvl.A.fGD.rQvUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:08:11 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I like the feel of the pedal. I am a rhythmic loopster with 2 EDP's. The > timing of my presses is much better with the SoftStep than the TGE04 > Echoplex Foot Controller and the FCB1010 (for sure on the FCB). Very Interesting! I couldnt disagree more! But I might have to admit that people are different to me now... Wow.. thats cool, I loved this product enough to early adopt it and start the Yahoo list, and was very disappointed, GREAT I hope that others like the feel of the switches too... I hope it succeeds! Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:13:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D25851834A2; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ahnraX9O6Z8aqDyAZsRFoWavKUTXnKnQX587S+qhyBk=; b=TZt0nza9Q+Min3W3Rt4CQgEEIdiLFo2JIm5ryHYcwEAQOMn89LEw2daV9sH6fvOySx siDCHeoWTGCvYaGIiIY59ROvh31c7n/dCzlZML9UU1Zk2gTrxVu3H9kr9fXoGwG4qdzh mHK0dp201rGC8bhuTKMluuRLbk9VZcEDygS/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=Kn6rTBxePl/cLS1gwjmPYHzskHvM4p1BRRYN6paHotPqfy0DA2TmF36pzcVU6/28tp 9Ev9Ka/f/34+IpgqQ8jz97knWtG495aCO+6cVpV8mEDQAZqhwtqzruDxs5qJ/RROl9q8 AAcYKdct1/GREZkbnxgbU47XeG5PDtMuo7ohY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:12:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -haJ7eLWuzC8ueh4WUgWjLfT5VY Message-ID: Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3zkyCD.A.SSD.WVvUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:13:10 +0000 (UTC) OK the subject says it all.. What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, too big) This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... Im talking SMALL!!!! Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... Any ideas? -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:23:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1DB1834B3; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eiNE05Ag45tq+ovMGxKypqsSMyQrig/9KJhMQ+RjFJk=; b=w+Komm2BXJr62KtvyXkIFVoXCBfzwg6KzzjU+8WvR7ndRNSoyPSjtpGt6rTkJrTWUd IAIYA44tUoI9CedjoMjaXBsRaKCTDEL3D8V6WniG0zLelXrJHlsq1VB6RqzCzF5uUtmo oMmT7YsqyogQBtjLYTczIyfXw3wPfVxGrihPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xnVvRC+rJWsCIGGvTYzDuNIOO5Jt22347SeR+FxPxjefxpvbt3GsMw/5J3f6cef6sN /GdH6bsl9rlOPZR3WYrlwpdISh3KzsAREw0N9Pslz/66GEQGuk+UvkYiWMEP3LN7kdSF 7bGqdUtoy8yVnEJfW9Yaof6aq2U7Ogyr1LHhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Small and 10 years old? Sounds like that could be a tough combo to find. Kevin On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:12 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > OK the subject says it all.. > What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! > > OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this > could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, > too big) > > This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches > wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... > Im talking SMALL!!!! > Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... > > Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... > > Any ideas? > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:48:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE3111834BB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MAWVI5jrEA0t2CqdgcAyGUYeTyY0MRDWISuKvqLQjyw=; b=e9peIApY6QxcKCnxXcmQVqnpTYldpt5zNa97AkUShCBjQEQNQXZvI5AnBPXXU0LZK5 CXOmlskG+KVBgvQGSqQwKrF6HrupnbSXRxYMimFx7e1/2ZqgHys+YOK2ufthdRRT96Nm 07NcATgExnSnNbBK4U2hT/5szwr360GEElYPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DHwgAgf8dxkCKJ1EnDsKqORF10x1NpxpPSp/9Qmedkb9fX+Mh0P9dwK1PM8nggct7K Yp1BR5G0JxBSI6S0Htaxg7WNNacZt+9gg5RYmKKcSYwB9WRtzncCgg5f8BowApJoT4pL i6bWRKpvS8K/xD2eVVMRPlb9RF1R6qd8R1l98= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:48:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc246800230049bdf96a2 Resent-Message-ID: <16bDFC.A.INE.i2vUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:48:34 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fc246800230049bdf96a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental fish > ... > Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, someone > please give some real world answers to my real world questions. Okay, how's this for coy....I hate it. Well mostly. There are aspects of it that I like, but overall I wish I had not bought it. The only reason I kept it is because there will probably be a lot of Mobius users that also have a SoftStep and I want to make sure they work well together. The software was really bad at first. It has gotten better I'm told, and I'm sure they'll eventually get the problems worked out, but it isn't all there yet. AFAIK you still can't use it without a computer. But this I can live with. For me the big issue is the feel. It has none. There is practically zero tactile feedback unless you're barefoot. The much lauded size of the unit just makes the situation worse. The pads are very close together and since it is difficult to feel where they are it is very easy to press the wrong one, or press two at the same time, or mistrigger one as you're brushing over them. I frequently get the one I want plus a bit of the one on the left, and sometimes the one above. The response will be "well you just need to lean to *play* it like an instrument!". I suppose so, and I'm sure many people will make that effort, but I have enough things to learn and I wasn't expecting to add a footswitch to that list. I'll just wear stiletto heels, accuracy problem solved! Jeff --90e6ba4fc246800230049bdf96a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> The answers I've been getting are about as coy= as a pond of ornamental fish
> ...
> Come on fol= ks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, someone
> please give some real world answers =A0to my real world questions. =A0=

Okay, how's this for coy....I hate it.
<= div>
Well mostly. =A0There are aspects of it that I like, but= overall I wish
I had not bought it. =A0The only reason I kept it is because there wil= l
probably be a lot of Mobius users that also have a SoftStep and= I want
to make sure they work well together.

The software was really bad at first. =A0It has gotten better I'm = told,
and I'm sure they'll eventually get the problems wo= rked out, but it
isn't all there yet. =A0AFAIK you still can&= #39;t use it without a computer.
But this I can live with.

For me the big issu= e is the feel. =A0It has none. =A0There is practically
zero tacti= le feedback unless you're barefoot. =A0The much lauded size of
the unit just makes the situation worse. =A0The pads are very close
together and since it is difficult to feel where they are it is very
easy to press the wrong one, or press two at the same time, or
mistrigger one as you're brushing over them. =A0I frequently get t= he one
I want plus a bit of the one on the left, and sometimes th= e one above.

The response will be "well you j= ust need to lean to *play* it like an
instrument!". =A0I suppose so, and I'm sure many people will = make that
effort, but I have enough things to learn and I wasn= 9;t expecting to add
a footswitch to that list. =A0I'll just = wear stiletto heels, accuracy
problem solved!

Jeff

--90e6ba4fc246800230049bdf96a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 20:54:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ABE31834C8; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=lPPfyFyZc3JPfcwbo2TuJbQDGQDLO8wwGD0njlNxOao=; b=ad10cAYbBZpIcOt4hdii79PfnviGtEsR2YmkD6zGAlocPdcMPjvxFkLOnjd6yVZb8u B7TlCkpTfAGLhefC0HKv/CSD8x/v4PkbTt0Vc/OupIBInxv28pneyMQggdmMuarfuJSu MxcYgO0xh1t0v5T21Hq8NftCgwEcubvQb3ryM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ZPomaTxGDZPvC2oCbqkyVVvuzC2mEdHuG7lHStZ3Pt4UIVp3eFa0IQEJTSz80+TqZe 2HaeonGnJrTOfww8GIaDsnABVHCxojomIWyZ5TKIMSESjLotS0MPVPCLRm4Md3AK2n0M Uy2s/dzfAVHldDVGS7lkCs2T3ld4P685eS8Yk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:54:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5d075cece049bdfadc1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5d075cece049bdfadc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 whoa jeff, you trigger your footpedals with heels. much respect, man. > The response will be "well you just need to lean to *play* it like an > instrument!". I suppose so, and I'm sure many people will make that > effort, but I have enough things to learn and I wasn't expecting to add > a footswitch to that list. I'll just wear stiletto heels, accuracy > problem solved! > > Jeff > > --001636c5a5d075cece049bdfadc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable whoa jeff, =A0you trigger your footpedals with heels. =A0much respect, man.= =A0

=
The response will be "well you just need to lean to *play* it lik= e an
instrument!". =A0I suppose so, and I'm sure many people will = make that
effort, but I have enough things to learn and I wasn= 9;t expecting to add
a footswitch to that list. =A0I'll just = wear stiletto heels, accuracy
problem solved!

Jeff<= /div>




--001636c5a5d075cece049bdfadc1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 21:01:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F5D1834C0; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fDcJQ4ypfB9fzBlITOWytC4OHCzNOwxX5B9r8lPw8Rg=; b=Uj8eMzNT3DVGrhzLG/J6S1q/I/sNCtrVq5xHs92/UGM5tw0jIMwno5E2I5MZ6MM7Su lHnm+jlIJhxL0L9plieYWjIkhtcpYVY2aeYmIyHuVWk6m0rlKh1ir4YOVzofHnNE5txp E1GNCHR31/8SR89VmSQLJGnvyh06p/YQK1DtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WtDKVyCXUmHPZBuNj4P0iohMZPPtfwzpzoRE/PRCEnKHL98wqW/J95MpczAaN2n5oi 3gC6jZfIiqQj8KVTR4Op2OtjZcL+BTMVlpKoR3EUo1Mr1y2LIvjJxbpju+kHggXzZmFO Hjl+Wo1x/L3VgHKrE7Y5z5ZOygWr8oEmmgOV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:01:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc2f8fb2175049bdfc402 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fc2f8fb2175049bdfc402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [andy] > > another question you should be asking is > > > > "does it work without a computer?" [per] > Isn't that what people mean by saying "the standalone version"? As I > understood it this is said to be functional at some point in the > future... The way I understand it is that "standalone mode" means you don't have to have their ginormous Max/MSP application running, but you are still using a USB connetcion to a computer. You use the big Max app to design "scenes" that are then downloaded to the hardware. Then the hardware can send the desired MIDI without going through the software. But this is still MIDI over USB into a computer. This didn't work at first, but now it does with some limitations. They also have an added cost MIDI adapter dongle which supposedly will let you use the SoftStep without a computer to send MIDI to other hardware. I'm assuming that you first have to set it up in standalone mode, then you have to buy the MIDI dongle. I haven't heard of anyone that has this working, but I haven't been paying close attention. Jeff --90e6ba4fc2f8fb2175049bdfc402 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[andy]
> > another question you should = be asking is
> >
> > "does it work wit= hout a computer?"

[per]
> Isn= 9;t that what people mean by saying "the standalone version"? As = I
> understood it this is said to be functional at some point in the<= /div>
> future...

The way I understand it i= s that "standalone mode" means you don't have
to ha= ve their ginormous Max/MSP application running, but you are still
using a USB connetcion to a computer. =A0You use the big Max app to
design "scenes" that are then downloaded to the hardware.= =A0Then the
hardware can send the desired MIDI without going thr= ough the software.
But this is still MIDI over USB into a computer. =A0 This didn't w= ork at first,
but now it does with some limitations.
They also have an added cost MIDI adapter dongle which suppose= dly
will let you use the SoftStep without a computer to send MIDI to other=
hardware. =A0I'm assuming that you first have to set it up i= n standalone
mode, then you have to buy the MIDI dongle. =A0I hav= en't heard of anyone
that has this working, but I haven't been paying close attention.<= /div>

Jeff

--90e6ba4fc2f8fb2175049bdfc402-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 21:11:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A181834A9; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578028154/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgCAO6RUk1YbRcR/2dsb2JhbAAMlzHLAoVcBI8W X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,447,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="578028154" Message-ID: <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:11:28 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:11:24 +0000 (UTC) So the question actually is "Is it a Midi controller?" (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" ) Jeff Larson wrote: > > [andy] > > > another question you should be asking is > > > > > > "does it work without a computer?" > They also have an added cost MIDI adapter dongle which supposedly > will let you use the SoftStep without a computer to send MIDI to other > hardware. I'm assuming that you first have to set it up in standalone > mode, then you have to buy the MIDI dongle. I haven't heard of anyone > that has this working, but I haven't been paying close attention. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 21:31:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1921834B3; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Thread-Index: AcvIoJSekHmwHt2cQQGQVHZFfQJ5uw== Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:30:02 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2011 21:31:20.0873 (UTC) FILETIME=[B183F990:01CBC8A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Smallest would be an iphone!!! On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OK the subject says it all.. > What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! > > OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this > could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, > too big) > > This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches > wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... > Im talking SMALL!!!! > Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... > > Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... > > Any ideas? > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 21:37:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DB881834BB; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KXliAqMKG9Nqq09rbmwTwAFf8qyqlsUH8MSS/7+i/7M=; b=SZI1aNCWzV2ngHimmB3eOPL4nvnJHpyHLzGtA0x6mx4wPYA559HNerbHgAHd11YWUS Vpc/W+p+o9Ds4AxkJIHFBiiITataWItnI8zjcygpgnNgADKYfGY1x9tAheBbOKc6rE9C pV4uq8ojfmFJN8Hs1wpaCU78+dwK1PAJCy1OQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cWW9LMfyYgexTreJ/5wny3UtxIYE4cggBzQYbWO985qbLG/WSYja+PQPsKBctg4WP6 hbKQngu3y5R23EPbKtTi+nt+iwt9W8M2xzEOrVzDSXYj2snqXRDzKklwaWoobjT1uRgQ vk3CEhDRyQ1p329mOTfHQOb1KjDN0KgvFSm6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:37:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2909bd82cf049be0465a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:37:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2909bd82cf049be0465a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [andy] > So the question actually is > > "Is it a Midi controller?" > > (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" ) Right, from what I've heard the answer is no. It was designed to be usable as a standalone MIDI controller, here's a video of the little "MIDI Expander" box/kludge that is allegedly sending MIDI notes to something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LKv1XohFSY But I have not heard of anyone outside of company videos that has used this successfully. The last I heard they were "working hard on it". Jeff --0016364d2909bd82cf049be0465a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[andy]
> So the question actually is
>=A0
> "Is it a Midi controller?"
>=A0
> (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" )

Right, from what I've heard the answer is no. =A0 I= t was designed
to be usable as a standalone MIDI controller, here= 's a video
of the little "MIDI Expander" box/kludge= that is allegedly sending
MIDI notes to something. =A0


But I have not heard of a= nyone outside of company videos that has used
this successfully. =A0The last I heard they were "working hard on= it".

Jeff

--0016364d2909bd82cf049be0465a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 22:10:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 491AF18349D; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=USgyRgiCIlMuetiXDMos1FT5FhxxHZjMw0Nkw4LRbAQ=; b=s6/qgTeqH3QlXiivqHOiSnoL7nFRJtT5Fzj+g031A9HSCjRAnLF/cN6ZKCXaCYe/rj ikRKkLAfsjzo3+0a8GGcIObZbgSBrC0MMftVTvGHrE4KOFdwUlhNUvyIG2ffI6w5VH4F TxRBHTqVr3qnT7U/NYd34tSvnsQZeipF0+PlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=auyBtKBLbS1GyKk0bE/CBeJOlW125t1HrWkSMwpb2B5JnPH4d6IRC/ezYKOhBNS8gq LNDUtFEE25htvmlzfCqgske1TOqdxMk3eJWEKXGR5j4Lz85TBS5T072hsqNFhuRcHDPG reuSnzaEwlG0+6BnXAMCV8qm6lX57c2rWETQE= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--992808434 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:10:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:10:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--992808434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jeff,=20 This is exactly how I use the softstep. It works great for me. Only = looping issues I'm having are actually with Mobius freakin out on me :) = Softstep is rock solid performance for me in stand alone mode. I have = made 4 live looping videos with this setup already (about 1 a week) and = just started working on my 5th which are proof that it works in the real = world. I've never been more productive. The last time I programmed the = softstep was around 3 weeks ago when the latest software came out and = since then the softstep has been connected to the midi expander and then = from there to the midi in of my audio interface. At this part in the = chain it is no different then me plugging the fcb1010 into the midi in = of my audio interface. And no I don't work for KMI, although as a current high school teacher = any extra employment would be warmly welcomed! :)=20 There are definitely some major issues with the softstep but this ain't = oneofem -Todd Matthews On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > [andy] > > So the question actually is > >=20 > > "Is it a Midi controller?" > >=20 > > (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" ) >=20 > Right, from what I've heard the answer is no. It was designed > to be usable as a standalone MIDI controller, here's a video > of the little "MIDI Expander" box/kludge that is allegedly sending > MIDI notes to something. =20 >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6LKv1XohFSY >=20 > But I have not heard of anyone outside of company videos that has used > this successfully. The last I heard they were "working hard on it". >=20 > Jeff >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--992808434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
[andy]
> So the question actually = is
> 
> "Is it a Midi = controller?"
> 
> (usb only is a "usb = controller using midi commands" )

Right, from what I've heard the answer is no.   = It was designed
to be usable as a standalone MIDI controller, = here's a video
of the little "MIDI Expander" box/kludge that = is allegedly sending
MIDI notes to something. =  


But I have not = heard of anyone outside of company videos that has used
this successfully.  The last I heard they were "working hard = on it".

Jeff




= --Apple-Mail-1--992808434-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 22:13:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA074183493; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bMTsflCtUnQnoPupjh5+qmXJxYV5FvbuZxfg8/JwdZs=; b=rstvSXmtKMZ0i6l6txX5q+E00zBOMAw5aEw/4MZy2BgXJdUy0/tG19jaRaPLaHiCj2 KYzqY00pogEoreyR3rFx6jaWPDTB9pK2fOCE+iO+/qDcLtKQOHUHlNZm4IyWPfSDweg2 ouTeAGgQMFFTcWXpxY14bcMJBm7OuGCvfSPyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X9UfuTWszkaENfGRVr6qGfpU8mFTh16HS2zvDUX5B3CJDuI6kePAcIl/U9gfkdRNhJ By5eN04QixkTT0txUcVoGgKLWSkUoCqbhjtiBy5niunpexY9jnkKL6asOg5YnjMXGnWL lJipow2oxzFCbv2CVZcs4yzflps5ANToV5Vio= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:13:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c92475285e7d049be0c7c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:13:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c92475285e7d049be0c7c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > So the question actually is > > > > "Is it a Midi controller?" > > > > (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" ) > > Right, from what I've heard the answer is no. > Todd Matthews said he is using it in standalone mode, which I assume means he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately). I've taken a keen interest to his success. Standalone mode means *standalone* i.e no computer. --001636c92475285e7d049be0c7c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> So the question actually is
>=A0
> "Is it a Midi controller?"
>=A0
> (usb only is a "usb controller using midi commands" )

Right, from what I've heard the answer is no.=A0=A0
=A0
Todd Matthews said he is using it in standalone mode, which I assume m= eans he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately).=A0 I've taken = a keen interest to his success.
=A0
Standalone mode means *standalone* i.e no computer.
--001636c92475285e7d049be0c7c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 23:39:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E85C31834A1; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FH9iUM2kmQP53uolbius126uZLw1b8Jb0Dx6PlKo90A=; b=UZiEWrhGL8+YYGoPU68QCGqnng2D6Ig5Mszhf+xIRo4VDddySo6HVvD0D1h76h0KPJ yp/xn4yLo4WFDe0aZ3+gKOflwLahr6Q+PPNm08dAwCkh0XDK38gDbv71yn9sqgtFyUb/ IjQWKWAD27htXH0vTc9syQaTJWJOwHPOfQ72w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LagVDiwV6f9lPNx+Jyz0W+zfUF9mVF6GSJ3ev0kAHZJZGlt4CFtcJ44g/7v/l/7Mbi kunJSt3v7oAZZCrXsj4Y0N8rVxaYIVwj52Q5TDMI9WKghaWgjdXTwLh0qJYsfRqaBSJC piHl3fD2/7iEXQKhqqqFGlO5DVzPE6NVrvF4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:39:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc2f8864588049be1fa76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:39:42 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fc2f8864588049be1fa76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > > Todd Matthews said he is using it in standalone mode, which I assume > means he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately). I've taken a > keen interest to his success. > > Standalone mode means *standalone* i.e no computer. What I've seen on the KMI forums has been ambiguous about what "standalone mode" really means. Todd is using standalone mode with the MIDI Expander which is good news, this is probably what most people on this list are interested in. But there is also interest in using standalone mode *without* the MIDI expander so you can use the SoftStep with software without having to run their huge Max/MSP application. People have been complaining about the memory usage and the response was "this is what standalone mode is for". So if "standalone mode" means that scenes can be downloaded to the SoftStep footswitch *without* requiring the MIDI expander then both camps are satisfied. Jeff --90e6ba4fc2f8864588049be1fa76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com>= wrote:
> =A0
> Todd Matthews said he is using it= in standalone mode, which I assume
> means he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately). =A0I= 9;ve taken a
> keen interest to his success.
> = =A0
> Standalone mode means *standalone* i.e no computer.

What I've seen on the KMI forums has been ambiguous abou= t what
"standalone mode" really means.

Todd is using standalone mode with the MIDI Expander which is good= news,
this is probably what most people on this list are interested in.

But there is also interest in using standalone mode *w= ithout* the MIDI
expander so you can use the SoftStep with softwa= re without having to
run their huge Max/MSP application. =A0People have been complaining ab= out
the memory usage and the response was "this is what stan= dalone=A0
mode is for".

So if "= ;standalone mode" means that scenes can be downloaded to the
SoftStep footswitch *without* requiring the MIDI expander then both
camps are satisfied. =A0

Jeff
--90e6ba4fc2f8864588049be1fa76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 23:46:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34CAB1834A6; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EvSkH+3UmClasZ1bkq3YTem/0vWQVc6gbzUz+iaSZio=; b=jQ0DW9StA1+ztrt1d+yBOTjEPDzlB8CBGCmp5ZM4LBDVLC3MFoPrI5KUnKWdnOFhyb jCo09FI7g4uSxou2YkOAE9kuipbMaflCXa2me3fEJnGhwLQ3mADM9h1hDTTh5Y+IHbVD tSyf9FcICo4m/hBOP2uNSDSLGzWC3yjErZPnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lLQxie507vvIShQKSebCwmo7ui1cSZFuQWMs/1eoJo2GIDLDhfwRp/VPQH+O3fMkm+ 0RFGsojXeQHN0iAkf1cupGP2nPCtFe+QmY8oPyRSeFFqoxGkTvwKLgZVD0lCa/UBwyAJ wWc0B+w7nmyGgkSynm1a1tucKXiaLBhsQwDe4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:46:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping soundcloud tracks OR another player to embed? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1L-ixD.A.PQB.qdyUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:46:51 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:05 AM, nat grant wrote: > i've become quite comfortable with my blogspot blog and with soundcloud too > but i'll check it out. if it does what i want i'll definitely switch - i'll > let you know how it goes... I never used blogspot but stay where you are if it works fine for you! > and congratulations on your cd release! Thanks! The first reactions are very positive, now we're waiting for the real reviews from magazines in the ambient and experimental scene #fingerscrossed ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 9 23:56:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2FB31834A2; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=MYEqRb/mGBFxcqCvKwklWASCgHwJkcBbro2QZJHgFAY=; b=wZHYtLJXpXqYMobILwJOHcOgFQNR0AEfX62svyHaIyuZPCroOCH+at8vpZdAZo+qeR xd+iuF9rK2KIrYCFvicodbDnClJQ0tNmBHrITWg1I7ne3EZP+71445y6yjWKI/yCEScB LjBkc0ay5NJhiSfDTJPRIQcsmcmMKJqKRHMzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=skY+qDEhd2ueJ64B78/t9XJh/OjVEcy6uPVNVVYlL1xQha/HjIweZbpjahIaXZxJW2 8DT96tibFiTX7YF0UQZdyt7+GzoFpqOKqifjABdTFoGLB1WbtujrIzeKOR/OX+IoXwFU 9LFTqjnVW6mqpi5016pB3R/f/k8gxVpE52m2Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:56:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t8Mwt10_6dr1bfzkypLDjRf1yJg Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-OcxmB.A.zlB.JnyUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:56:57 +0000 (UTC) I have 2 iphones... neither of them send midi!!!! No this has to hav a permanent place in my rack .. that means.. NO COMPUTERS !!! Mark On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Smallest would be an iphone!!! > > > > On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> OK the subject says it all.. >> What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! >> >> OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this >> could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, >> too big) >> >> This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches >> wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... >> Im talking SMALL!!!! >> Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... >> >> Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... >> >> Any ideas? >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 00:04:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB341833E9; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5FC7CB92-29AE-4713-9342-6D2B04AB2971@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--986028853 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:03:54 +0900 References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:03:54 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: <1kvxQC.A.lzB.vtyUNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:03:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--986028853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So if I'm reading this right, the SoftStep works directly plugged in to a computer via USB but other foot controllers such as the 1010 need to plug into a midi interface. Since I'm looking to make a portable setup with a laptop, i.e. will fit in my backpack, being able to dispense with a midi interface and just use virtual sounds in the computer would be a great advantage. Are there any other foot pedals that compete in this particular aspect? On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > since then the softstep has been connected to the midi expander and > then from there to the midi in of my audio interface. At this part > in the chain it is no different then me plugging the fcb1010 into > the midi in of my audio interface. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-6--986028853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So if I'm reading this right, = the SoftStep works directly plugged in to a computer via USB but other = foot controllers such as the 1010 need to plug into a midi interface. = Since I'm looking to make a portable setup with a laptop, i.e. will fit = in my backpack, being able to dispense with a midi interface and just = use virtual sounds in the computer would be a great advantage. Are there = any other foot pedals that compete in this particular = aspect? 

On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Todd = Matthews wrote:
since then the softstep has been connected to = the midi expander and then from there to the midi in of my audio = interface. At this part in the chain it is no different then me plugging = the fcb1010 into the midi in of my audio = interface.
= --Apple-Mail-6--986028853-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 00:12:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34F02183462; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! thread-index: AcvItymta/XtyFy/RFeztniR7QRR4g== Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:11:37 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 00:12:47.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F47C6B0:01CBC8B7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Haha Mark so open all ur gear and take a drill and poke holes in all those l= ittle black spider looking black chip things, those are hideous computer spi= ders hiding in your rack!!! Call terminex!!! On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:57 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I have 2 iphones... neither of them send midi!!!! >=20 > No this has to hav a permanent place in my rack .. that means.. NO > COMPUTERS !!! >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= >> Smallest would be an iphone!!! >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, mark francombe wrote= : >>=20 >>> OK the subject says it all.. >>> What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! >>>=20 >>> OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this >>> could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, >>> too big) >>>=20 >>> This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches >>> wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... >>> Im talking SMALL!!!! >>> Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... >>>=20 >>> Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... >>>=20 >>> Any ideas? >>>=20 >>> -- >>> mark francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 00:20:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C373183466; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Ee+JMgp3uFsPfHw4iESACmilVAYEbra8rRsawzlg9AQ=; b=QispjWNvpXNOMaxMMA9scWeyifPQMVyi0Lasx1q7pT7NJ3bzBk1RzlQb7B6ifBFaIU +2yYo4oaCAcJj8V8oQKXy6JWzmHXktM0ZRe78YQCWl4brN0u4dg+sIcsFrDdYptD17aK oYgqEX2doeTVd/p5cyWHuJDXHinutVxcY6s6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=iSXes+d9QDZflPK/AUiKQevtNl9mfZJPxdI+DC9hyEjnZ1l8/ftXizKVPi0+N8zKof 6cs2iqhClccjSseQUl1ZnGx8xXgk9wIXtb4ZvSgRE5bWael1BEWPpfPbO08gnwf1on5K JBX3QG5yTGk3t93XcLplqq/WUTmJURCmi+4BI= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:19:56 +0100 Message-ID: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Der! I only meant that my rack doesn't contain a computer so I don't want to entertain all these, use bidule/iPhone mapped thru ocs , solutions... I have nothing against computer... Much.. Except that i spend too much time on them already!!! So.. Small drummachine. Anyone? No? Small hardware sequencer then? Small anything that sends out midi notes... Jeez... Is this another reason to get a gordius? Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 10 Feb 2011, at 01:12, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Haha Mark so open all ur gear and take a drill and poke holes in all those little black spider looking black chip things, those are hideous computer spiders hiding in your rack!!! Call terminex!!! > > > > On Feb 9, 2011, at 6:57 PM, mark francombe wrote: > >> I have 2 iphones... neither of them send midi!!!! >> >> No this has to hav a permanent place in my rack .. that means.. NO >> COMPUTERS !!! >> >> Mark >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >>> Smallest would be an iphone!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> >>>> OK the subject says it all.. >>>> What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! >>>> >>>> OK I have a caveat: "That has midi out, and sends midi notes" Now this >>>> could be a mini hardware sequencer too ( so Ive looked at the QY 10, >>>> too big) >>>> >>>> This is to fit and a very small gap in my rack drawer , about 3 inches >>>> wide MAX... could be housed lengthways, therfore 3 inches HEIGHT... >>>> Im talking SMALL!!!! >>>> Obviously to send to my EDP's, so no sound quality needed... >>>> >>>> Preferably 10 years old so almost free on EBay... >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mark francombe >>>> www.markfrancombe.com >>>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>> http://www.looop.no >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 00:32:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC7A183484; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=veHDVReYSSlEO8D4QPc1Dg7w5yFrPEoMBENF1IrkomU=; b=edc+AZFDk5uUAQZj06Va5UUiFLq5gG6RFhWXpl7navHO7jwx2gEhQvYIXYa1Wkv+Lj Is0E8fUlN3Le1x1jGsYUS3j/Rtuyt1L71MpEdEhBzorNi15rXmz1LyhJ67iJHbEeybKs 6iKF2fi+93q5tcBQ+PLp3mT5Ikz4BE1g5yd/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=JQUgVT4IA9z30RWDdjX0Z9JqAAHVzsgUy8FjIPVLLP/A26+kYeTIozcJOZo6TW/2BK Rynzw0L8JFvSr/VDk+qbSGEZf5tPanoTYDcrYEUtZjFMiSYBnTvmzLnyPgmzuhOmGdeU 5KivajiY8fSQOKorRnP8I07erbgJtIJEwQM1w= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--984340155 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:32:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5FC7CB92-29AE-4713-9342-6D2B04AB2971@sea.plala.or.jp> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> <5FC7CB92-29AE-4713-9342-6D2B04AB2971@sea.plala.or.jp> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:32:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--984340155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You can use the Uno which is a cable with usb on one end and midi in/out = on the other. Very portable and would allow any midi footcontroller to = be plugged into your usb port. http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html -Todd Matthews On Feb 9, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > So if I'm reading this right, the SoftStep works directly plugged in = to a computer via USB but other foot controllers such as the 1010 need = to plug into a midi interface. Since I'm looking to make a portable = setup with a laptop, i.e. will fit in my backpack, being able to = dispense with a midi interface and just use virtual sounds in the = computer would be a great advantage. Are there any other foot pedals = that compete in this particular aspect?=20 --Apple-Mail-1--984340155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii You = can use the Uno which is a cable with usb on one end and midi in/out on = the other. Very portable and would allow any midi footcontroller to be = plugged into your usb port.

-Todd = Matthews
On Feb 9, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Ed Durbrow = wrote:

So if I'm reading this = right, the SoftStep works directly plugged in to a computer via USB but = other foot controllers such as the 1010 need to plug into a midi = interface. Since I'm looking to make a portable setup with a laptop, = i.e. will fit in my backpack, being able to dispense with a midi = interface and just use virtual sounds in the computer would be a great = advantage. Are there any other foot pedals that compete in this = particular aspect? 


= --Apple-Mail-1--984340155-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 02:03:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52D2A183462; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ab264058-0556-47fd-8f2d-3c841c8a1f95_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.3.56] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: Nat is a cool cat! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:03:44 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 02:03:44.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF2DF110:01CBC8C6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:03:46 +0000 (UTC) --_ab264058-0556-47fd-8f2d-3c841c8a1f95_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hey Nat=2C been looking at your vids=2C you are good!!!! >=20 >=20 > What was that plastic or paper you were using with thst trumpet dude? wow=2C thanks andy=2C you just made my day =3D) from memory it was just a plastic shopping bag that i carried some gear to = the gig in. when i looked around for some sound to start off the improv it = caught my eye so i used it! i'm like a cat=2C buy me expensive toys and i'l= l just use a bag or a box or something... nat --------------------=20 Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums = --_ab264058-0556-47fd-8f2d-3c841c8a1f95_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=3B Hey Nat=2C been looking at your vids=2C you are good!!!!
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= = --_ab264058-0556-47fd-8f2d-3c841c8a1f95_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 02:26:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C4BC183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <067E1379-CAF1-45E9-B00F-76777D79C1C5@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: 64 bit software loopers? Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:26:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:26:47 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 9, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Anyone know if Mobius is scheduled to go 64 bit soon? Let me check...[Hey guys! Anyone back there know if Mobius is scheduled to go 64 bit? You in the back with the Red Bull and the ironic = t-shirt... Have you heard? No? Okay thanks.] The consensus seems to be no, Mobius isn't scheduled for 64 bit any time = soon. Primarily this is because the lab doesn't have any 64 bit machines. If anyone has some to donate, the schedule could change :) I'm skeptical that you're going to see a dramatic speed inprovement that will reduce latency. I haven't been following this closely, what is it about 64 bit that is supposed to make it faster? Assuming you're using 64 bit float arithmetic you're juggling twice as much data, and that's supposed to be faster? I'm really surprised that Bidule won't let you load 32-bit plugins. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 02:35:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50389183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Nat is a cool cat! References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thread-topic: Nat is a cool cat! thread-index: AcvIyy4PVrGiQmsTSs++bh/+/wCOKQ== Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:34:59 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 02:35:47.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[3967A080:01CBC8CB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:35:49 +0000 (UTC) I thought it was bubble wrap, you could make some cool sounds with that!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 02:44:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 920F8183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:44:32 +0900 Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius Thread-Index: AcvIzHHml1YScTgMRw62qcDf21rN8A== In-Reply-To: <4D526231.5060909@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3aVVn.A.yTF.VE1UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:44:37 +0000 (UTC) On 2/9/11 6:45 PM, "andy butler" wrote: > > Dustbunnies wrote: >> However, with the FC-300, you can send pretty much any type of MIDI event >> (PC, CC, Notes, MMC, NRPN, SysEx, and even >> nearly-useless-for-foot-controller data like poly-aftertouch, FWIW). I'm >> just curious what data type -- Clock notwithstanding -- the Gordius is able >> to send that the FC-300 cannot? > > The LG can send every possible midi command/data. > Including 14bit. from an expression pedal with a user > definable response curve. So it'll allow you to link two given CC's into a MSB/LSB pair in order to get better resolution. Now that's cool. Most controllers will only do this with the Pitch Bend controller, which is usually already hard wired on most receiving devices to... you guessed it: Pitch Bend. That's definitely one I don't recall the FC-300 doing. > It also has Gordius specific commands. Yeah, I knew that the real value in the Gordius lay actually in the delivery system -- being able to scale, layer, and delay the timing on various types of MIDI data in an organized and programmable fashion. I just didn't know if there were any raw data types that it handled which were beyond the rudimentary functions on the Roland footpedal. It seems that MSB/LSB pairings are one type. There could be others perhaps...? > Random CC (with upper & lower limit) Eh? You mean it can do Sample-&-Hold style effects by jumping to random values on a given CC#? That's very nice too. BTW, I know it does ramps and fades, but has Xavier gotten around to putting an actual MIDI LFO into this thing yet? I've been looking for a decent one of those forever, and the only one I've found (without resorting to a computer) in a floor unit is that Moog thing. But that's just too damn expensive for what I'd use it for, IMNSHO. Thanks for jumping in, Andy! --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 02:54:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BFA2183461; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:54:52 +0900 Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Thread-Index: AcvIzeNyn4k1VvEXSMSwxD61jjckIQ== In-Reply-To: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:54:55 +0000 (UTC) On 2/10/11 9:19 AM, "mark francombe" wrote: > > So.. Small drummachine. Anyone? No? Small hardware sequencer then? > Small anything that sends out midi notes... Jeez... Is this another > reason to get a gordius? Smallest actual drum machine I remember is the Alesis SR-16, which is probably bigger than you want. I think at some point, Boss released one or two of the Dr. Rhythm's which were approximately the same size, but that's probably too big as well. The issue with drum machines, I think, is that they all standardize on providing pads of some sort (well, the original Dr. Rhythm and its clones didn't, but they may have been pre-MIDI). Each pad needs at least a finger's space of real estate, which blows up the size of the machine a bit. As far as other devices, I could swear that at some point Yamaha released one of the QY series that wasn't much bigger than a Korg guitar tuner, but I could merely be mis-remembering that. Also, I know that there have been a few data filers (Casio, for example) which were no bigger than two packs of smokes laid side-by-side, but I don't know if they could be coaxed to play a sequence or not. Finally, (leading question here:) does it absolutely have to be done with MIDI Notes? Is there any chance you could get the same effect control by programming a CC? --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 03:17:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B00F183461; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 03:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5cd73674-cab5-4404-871f-5f2fed9745c2_" X-Originating-IP: [115.130.3.56] From: nat grant To: Subject: RE: Nat is a cool cat! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:17:29 +1100 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 03:17:29.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CA6D010:01CBC8D1] Resent-Message-ID: <3ewxWB.A.pDG.Lj1UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 03:17:31 +0000 (UTC) --_5cd73674-cab5-4404-871f-5f2fed9745c2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I thought it was bubble wrap=2C you could make some cool sounds with that= !!! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2355452/highlight/22713 around the 32 minute mark... --------------------=20 Natalie Grant - M.Mus (Perf) (percussion)=20 http://www.myspace.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.youtube.com/natskyplaysdrums http://www.soundcloud.com/natskyplaysdrums = --_5cd73674-cab5-4404-871f-5f2fed9745c2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --_5cd73674-cab5-4404-871f-5f2fed9745c2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 03:35:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4F2183464; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 03:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:35:22 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 03:35:28 +0000 (UTC) The AdrenaLinns are relatively small and they contain a drum machine. = They're certainly=20 smaller than any drum machine I've owned. The M-Audio Black Box which = is based on the AdreneLinn is also fairly small, though bigger than the original = AdreneLinn. They have no pads so you have to program it with a computer. =20 Jeff =20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 06:50:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F4B8183476; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=04MZLXoLK/firnBcx/XThppvcoPY8rS/QOq4cDwDfNw=; b=XERLMdTZab2NuSwijQ5Cbfb8C9edAVkPzKvIly/WNaGoejCiHz23pZHTb2PAySgCsg X/TCMPoT1cMVcdr982euakHJsld+8o2+PrngQCpawYY0XVbgK+N9RCMxaV79e4dq4kdr 11zPwsKI6PaIsz98xifwV7Dtn9qrUEraR8R9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Wzdj3+yPdAWL6sGRtMSkcAxSFwx4q1p2UrYcrsMlZL5GqXX4ZVyUoFvkp+ErD/DHjC 4kieE70N7vHtiQZzHWbtQf7AuHEQt5S+IE6HqDlKKVU1NdZ9VpHRuEJTjwkUHruus0xg aA14gukvohE917ogmANItzDUTaYFvsXx6oSXE= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:50:24 +0100 Message-ID: <2234305060091352641@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Ah... Maybe. But us that gonna make the search on a box any easier? Thsnks for feedbacking, checin for boss. Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 10 Feb 2011, at 03:54, Dustbunnies wrote: > Finally, (leading question here:) does it absolutely have to be done with > MIDI Notes? Is there any chance you could get the same effect control by > programming a CC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 06:51:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30649183474; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zL+WP7wgQIeOeSe68YDLbLQrUy+qs9ybGHvbAYFMCL8=; b=F5pIbmN9iS86BXq+HF1/zpkExu2MqFvue9xumZ3VymUyVab9Vx2+igZ7bPhzuPON6p ZOYAr+pQlgiyVgyPiDYtcdKDIj6xf0oHbt0Z7kkkqdiYXKysOARJtMuTQwwwG56GBGAO D/opg0DoLTFSu3OghvIKl4tKz8uWaN946lRUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=KN/b902atE5UFn78P4fdB0M2RJPevHRsS4ndoAh32Iy7MlRerWL94E6vhSL+HQBXf+ aq6BmiVANfERPJFUjDFu2z+Ut37FbzU+HvIRrOlkmqJO7Dt8UGOENbOspb5nAK/454Ti A2oSUYXgK43qHVkU8oZIbT2431m1pcMYh0TLA= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:51:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3224320070999353225@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <29emdD.A.nbC.2r4UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Do they send midi notes? Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 10 Feb 2011, at 04:35, Jeff Larson wrote: > > The AdrenaLinns are relatively small and they contain a drum machine. They're certainly > smaller than any drum machine I've owned. The M-Audio Black Box which is based on the > AdreneLinn is also fairly small, though bigger than the original AdreneLinn. They have no pads > so you have to program it with a computer. > > Jeff > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 08:15:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28DFF183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 184451.53436.bm@omp1021.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=5wnYqHS5JpDbuYkmp0nZfIaBk/RXD7LERVPHv0HyiVjXOhEnzUXTLLsz+W6CyOvAyO0yi2AnoIWnccvWas9tmpgGoFby+w8kilonhSiyfSJ02mQ40kp3EP+l/KYgVbTacikq7nmAC0EGqO5lFMIVEchzkQtc8/tteYagey0p3Po= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1297325720; bh=OkRn+oU1occAqmA5DRy6e6SjjmJLpX6txKA03OEso0M=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=GWw3L5wA3h2Ax1PJVOxzA5phL5UPu0qYvKE9tx2jUBrIfH7EaSoJaJvB7a4acBD5fc2Dwm+y4G5/JwRVLOSlbi7QM+Ixn9x1bGIUpDbUVb+yvj+wh5EQrEwoIRyDbMc5EyJxu0G+CGlLUM/ZBRR9lqvyrSekJhIcJV6XzldS6LU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: .rekrv4VM1lVfeRgd8t69nDAPJQvOGz1vDGIa_LYdhWtPtO XtGakdO1iVp_r9pXDvfw6WnMg8Gjo6VXCCejyo4oJZoHJi21btnzrpF2riAF sesGh5m_8hcvF7qfsnYX_ctzeXqzDTpcu69HyM4.JYHdJY8__PVvFsKxEGSn ooHnAx4AFHUH0Vld3VWOywOIiTZ0XYbqp5kaw1QUiXWq3Io2L92_49jpgw0H vOSWCa.E2LvZ04IHteYNm7bvKeBqO9yGLThW4qlHJvt.g6hSJPrx4EhcF3iz rbDD5ZpeAqmQsBK6P X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <6488FCE455F146A0A8376BF39751B6A5@yourict.net> From: "BEN" To: References: <2234305060091352641@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:15:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Does the nord micromodular send midi notes? It has sequencers inside but I think the midi out functionality was added in nord modular G2. Worth a check perhaps. Tiny sized. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" To: Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 07:50 Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! > Ah... Maybe. But us that gonna make the search on a box any easier? > Thsnks for feedbacking, checin for boss. > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 10 Feb 2011, at 03:54, Dustbunnies wrote: > >> Finally, (leading question here:) does it absolutely have to be done with >> MIDI Notes? Is there any chance you could get the same effect control by >> programming a CC > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 08:28:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81AE183473; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H2ISAN4YKgYUsOKDdx6OCGGR5bN4Y7+0mn/jiCFMZI4=; b=fVyqvzrkMRBNreTL4osbO6J8koUZl6jLA/LCcwd9q74BT0jBnei/V4ZOlipqG6IYx3 9XntcB5VMV5svnPzy0xE+D/OSkdozHG4t0BokjKsA1sgcCDV1UEurWsS+baw6/P+5O5/ NyOvzGgRdwg8lF8F12KzTV3dJ2P34wUa7HDqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=uNJdTXpzT5rRF2ISiYglN7MXc/iz4QVI6U/2WRPPY/N9nr14En6ufwHrdl2f95NApW 6DQok+sDefPFuHbFhfY3m5Z4mcLduJY3TOQo+pqvFsHz03bYisCrIFZCT7ftq6wEfdB/ CgavQcWb+Q8IdL/3HK7f9TGFTGE20xjmqpQ8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <6488FCE455F146A0A8376BF39751B6A5@yourict.net> References: <2234305060091352641@unknownmsgid> <6488FCE455F146A0A8376BF39751B6A5@yourict.net> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:28:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Vxkmrx9MVsTiVHZ81YBN4smCoJ0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Did I say cheap? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM, BEN wrote: > Does the nord micromodular send midi notes? > It has sequencers =A0inside but I think the midi out functionality was ad= ded > in nord modular G2. > Worth a check perhaps. Tiny sized. > > Ben > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark francombe" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 07:50 > Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! > > >> Ah... Maybe. But us that gonna make the search on a box any easier? >> Thsnks for feedbacking, checin for boss. >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> >> On 10 Feb 2011, at 03:54, Dustbunnies wrote: >> >>> Finally, (leading question here:) does it absolutely have to be done wi= th >>> MIDI Notes? =A0Is there any chance you could get the same effect contro= l by >>> programming a CC >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 08:54:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B518F18345A; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578147044/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.168/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.168 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYCACo3U01YbRKo/2dsb2JhbAAMl0LJa4VcBI8f X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,451,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="578147044" Message-ID: <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:54:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:54:52 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Small hardware sequencer then? > Is this another > reason to get a gordius? > > Mark maybe,maybe not, the Gordius won't play a *.mid file. You'd have to ask Xavier if such a thing was even possible. What you get (at the moment)with the Gordius is a relatively limited scripting function which is just powerful enough to loop a series of midi-synced(or tap tempo) commands, with the timing determine by 'delay' commands. That loop will continue until another switch is pressed. (I think there are plans afoot to allow the loop to continue while other switches can still be used, but I wouldn't be 100% sure that it be be a reality) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 09:34:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6301183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JT1x7YeGiP08OVzuE4cL6i4eV08X7XVyzITc2MCtDYM=; b=EVYcAsZpCnSJHl4sB6L6uW8x9vgaG47SBHRor2Hklrv0PuqhiEY8P935u5nDA3T3Nw 7ZFfwHgmjdeHTvhVXdcV6m7Y+VonDHYt0CFHY/KvBHfJ7cTVdeN5asRLBQ2pQXgsEmn9 yOkMyHtkA5v9WAT7eQyuJ+hwjM1kwr7FI/TqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=mGlaNyCQGdoWnhdXIhKy4Nz0rkBMOwk4HOX8/l2nal6+kG6T8+FEVSPaX0PvyYMjkB uxvpONg9JP1W3TemiEig2wYOO7w4JmpCR/ASpwdyzKg7v3UEeamj8/bqLbjU/H+ECd9M 7F9MQ8D70Ed+dViuKrC6PBMqUzV+WuGugaVP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:34:40 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cdde799453049bea4a51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:34:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4cdde799453049bea4a51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i think the smallest you'll be able to find with midi out will be the yamaha qy20. it should do everything you need. i was looking into the qy series as a source of midi notes for triggering my lp-1 when i had it midi file players don't exist (not tiny ones, anyway) - i was looking at this option as well. i'm surprised nobody makes a little tiny box with a midi in and out and a usb port, that you could load midi files onto. karaoke/solo singers might get some use out of it and it would be great for storing sequences on that could be synced to midi clock. the amount of memory it would need would be tiny and it could have some transport controls and a little screen for selecting the file you want. would be dirt cheap to make. sim On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM, andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > > Small hardware sequencer then? >> > --000e0cd4cdde799453049bea4a51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think the smallest you'll be able to find with midi out will be the y= amaha qy20. it should do everything you need. i was looking into the qy ser= ies as a source of midi notes for triggering my lp-1 when i had it

midi file players don't exist (not tiny ones, anyway) - i was looking a= t this option as well. i'm surprised nobody makes a little tiny box wit= h a midi in and out and a usb port, that you could load midi files onto. ka= raoke/solo singers might get some use out of it and it would be great for s= toring sequences on that could be synced to midi clock. the amount of memor= y it would need would be tiny and it could have some transport controls and= a little screen for selecting the file you want. would be dirt cheap to ma= ke.

sim

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM, = andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:

Small hardware sequencer then?
--000e0cd4cdde799453049bea4a51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 09:43:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 550F4183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3578 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:43:31 UTC From: Andre Mueller Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--954839062 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:43:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: <66A330A5-0A4B-48D7-BCF7-102906F0D37A@andremu.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:43:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--954839062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 thats exactly what I=B4m doing. had to ask this question at the KMI = forum first, because it=B4s very confusing. standalone means without the softstep application but with or without a = computer. depends if you have the MIDI expander which I don=B4t. so I=B4m using the "standalone mode" without the MIDI expander. once the presets are downloaded in the softstep hardware, you don't need = to open the softstep application anymore! it works fine here. andre=20 www.andremu.com Am 10.02.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Jeff Larson: >=20 > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, ^|>^m = wrote: > > =20 > > Todd Matthews said he is using it in standalone mode, which I assume > > means he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately). I've taken a > > keen interest to his success. > > =20 > > Standalone mode means *standalone* i.e no computer. >=20 > What I've seen on the KMI forums has been ambiguous about what > "standalone mode" really means. >=20 > Todd is using standalone mode with the MIDI Expander which is good = news, > this is probably what most people on this list are interested in. >=20 > But there is also interest in using standalone mode *without* the MIDI > expander so you can use the SoftStep with software without having to > run their huge Max/MSP application. People have been complaining = about > the memory usage and the response was "this is what standalone=20 > mode is for". >=20 > So if "standalone mode" means that scenes can be downloaded to the > SoftStep footswitch *without* requiring the MIDI expander then both > camps are satisfied. =20 >=20 > Jeff >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--954839062 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 thats = exactly what I=B4m doing. had to ask this question at the KMI forum = first, because it=B4s very confusing.
standalone means without the = softstep application but with or without a computer. depends if you have = the MIDI expander which I don=B4t.

so I=B4m using = the "standalone mode" without the MIDI expander.
once the = presets are downloaded in the softstep hardware, you don't need to open = the softstep application anymore!
it works fine = here.


Am 10.02.2011 um 00:39 schrieb Jeff Larson:


> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, = ^|>^m <will.it.go.round@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
>  
> Todd Matthews said he is = using it in standalone mode, which I assume
> means he's using the MIDI expander (sold separately). =  I've taken a
> keen interest to his = success.
>  
> Standalone mode means = *standalone* i.e no computer.

What I've seen on the KMI forums has been ambiguous about = what
"standalone mode" really = means.

Todd is using standalone mode with the = MIDI Expander which is good news,
this is probably what most people on this list are interested = in.

But there is also interest in using = standalone mode *without* the MIDI
expander so you can use the = SoftStep with software without having to
run their huge Max/MSP application.  People have been = complaining about
the memory usage and the response was "this = is what standalone 
mode is = for".

So if "standalone mode" means that scenes = can be downloaded to the
SoftStep footswitch *without* requiring the MIDI expander then = both
camps are satisfied. =  

Jeff


= --Apple-Mail-1--954839062-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 09:45:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A48218345F; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IBdU6ISAJZLMXsuYWaJK4mjFV5Hc2LFS4mhOmClp1lE=; b=WP+kLO/CmRekoDp7LbMo2gldxmihLN+oFVysBxPNa66hr4b0Q9KKPcSfbcfJMutUDA xjm9U9uf4F4hqkxcZ/zNbZL8SR2SqeTq6nY9xXMxirsr3SI9+kP2+aHU7a/r5x2A6e5t ceoODSIYDgiPdnn1jn43wmRrtwxBB7yh67MoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=khMiLha4U5kfyz375w+kt2nRv3d+yJ8ooCRME+Dt+9KfduprJ2thtmj+vq+GH3O5z6 UaYDOM3NETJr1trkYVmvCHPaRR4MjFjGdj5tcXm+EuWSfIeYWhdWVWI4/ZI6sbFbvmwO 5ts3n1gN9xkMlNf+1HGEyeTZ7tsKVVH5rlHOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:45:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: powering a U.S. 9vac 115 with a 9vac 220 adaptor From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:45:10 +0000 (UTC) hi folks, im buying a device thats 9VAC 300mA from the states,is it ok to to just replace the power supply with a european one? most of the ones i bought overthere have worked with no problems,but just want to make sure,this is an older device. thanx Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 09:48:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C89F183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 569551446/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.168/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.168 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYCAC1DU01YbRKo/2dsb2JhbAAMl0LJV4VcBI8f X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,451,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="569551446" Message-ID: <4D53B44E.5010007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:47:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SoftStep vs 1010 vs Boss vs Gordius References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9O7oMB.A.A6F.PR7UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Dustbunnies wrote: > On 2/9/11 6:45 PM, "andy butler" wrote: >> Dustbunnies wrote: >>> However, with the FC-300, you can send pretty much any type of MIDI event >>> (PC, CC, Notes, MMC, NRPN, SysEx, and even >>> nearly-useless-for-foot-controller data like poly-aftertouch, FWIW). I'm >>> just curious what data type -- Clock notwithstanding -- the Gordius is able >>> to send that the FC-300 cannot? >> The LG can send every possible midi command/data. >> Including 14bit. from an expression pedal with a user >> definable response curve. > > So it'll allow you to link two given CC's into a MSB/LSB pair in order to > get better resolution. Now that's cool. Most controllers will only do this > with the Pitch Bend controller, which is usually already hard wired on most > receiving devices to... you guessed it: Pitch Bend. Not many controllers send 14bit pitch bend. Generally it's 7bit resolution with the LSB only sent to make sure it goes all the way to both ends of the range. The resolution you can get from a pedal, Xavier tells me, is more like 8bit, certainly not 14. As I know that even that extra bit makes a difference for dynamic volume control I helped persuade him to offer the 14 bit option. I haven't tried the MSB/LSB thing, it's possible to set that up in the Gordius software so I strongly suspect it works. > > That's definitely one I don't recall the FC-300 doing. > >> It also has Gordius specific commands. > > Yeah, I knew that the real value in the Gordius lay actually in the delivery > system -- being able to scale, layer, and delay the timing on various types > of MIDI data in an organized and programmable fashion. I just didn't know > if there were any raw data types that it handled which were beyond the > rudimentary functions on the Roland footpedal. It seems that MSB/LSB > pairings are one type. There could be others perhaps...? afaik if it's in the Midi Spec the LG sends it. > >> Random CC (with upper & lower limit) > > Eh? You mean it can do Sample-&-Hold style effects by jumping to random > values on a given CC#? That's very nice too. yep :-) > > BTW, I know it does ramps and fades, but has Xavier gotten around to putting > an actual MIDI LFO into this thing yet? no, it would be possible to program RepeatFrom>>Delay>>Ramp>>Delay>>Fade>>RepeatTo ..but again I've not tried that, I've not messed with the ramps. > I've been looking for a decent one > of those forever, and the only one I've found (without resorting to a > computer) in a floor unit is that Moog thing. But that's just too damn > expensive for what I'd use it for, IMNSHO. their MP-201 pedal thing? are you sure it would even do that? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 10:58:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19522183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=udmVDRCXfKlUsBTmgXDUhFvJzMl+452PH9A6kYdq6Jo=; b=o8FbFilSbJfM303icPix26ByWS0q1ha1uYQyv6mJwAenKi+yloyTKLYw0I2rbsdgpI cqGt3Wm9fzoOfLKVO6mLM/ST33z6JrMy9GOct21Csni4MeCEksa+zN+/Ydiz3Zl0URP9 EA8w50rPOL+l0wB3Iw61nRvzHD2fToTVdlcHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rB3yU4Jdoesqb8JsgwtJvvhgsMXxmTGs4MpNBuh0hXn1Ca2Eyk+WXlTgHoAD2EqBDd QKSpNRA5fVHkPSG4uTUN7QySMT7P7zxNkFctAIJHDJas3xYBroV3Wt0brJ2eIzjhGm3h 8tcWFKdj0x0+FQd2lVBXXohBv2cVwXVqj/VcY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <067E1379-CAF1-45E9-B00F-76777D79C1C5@zonemobius.com> References: <067E1379-CAF1-45E9-B00F-76777D79C1C5@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:58:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 64 bit software loopers? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:58:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I'm skeptical that you're going to see a dramatic speed inprovement > that will reduce latency. =C2=A0I haven't been following this closely, wh= at > is it about 64 bit that is supposed to make it faster? =C2=A0Assuming > you're using 64 bit float arithmetic you're juggling twice as much > data, and that's supposed to be faster? I've been running Logic and Mainstage at 64 bit code and this did not make any difference because my Macbook only has two cores, only 4 MB RAM plus that I enjoy some non 64 bit plugins that needs to be taken care of through the 32 bit bridge. For now I'm mostly curious about this but when looking into the future I see eight core laptops and that's kind of "64 bit homeland" where 32 bit stuff might become obsolete. > I'm really surprised that Bidule won't let you load 32-bit plugins. That is because the recent 64 bit Bidule is a temporary build. Most host applications have a "32 bit bridge", a "converter" as I understand it, that makes it possible to run old 32 plugins under 64 bit system mode and one would guess Plogue too will offer that as the official 64 bit Bidule is released. The only people I know that already benefit from 64 bit coded system and music applications are producer colleges that run extremely large sample library on the top of the line octacore boxes. They typically enjoy snappier performance, more stable computing and the luxury of not having to use continuos disc streaming for the sampler patches as a full song sampler setup can be loaded into RAM (using up to 32 GM RAM). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 11:19:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE66183453; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=PGkJTerRl2PoLBg4ADVqo3O+0YMgOqhtNyjdyw42/Gg=; b=iaVPt0UZRtXLQmA8BBrU/1D0X+x5krCl6CC8JdxPH8Ec6Yk71tnCqP75z+QKVQiS+F pg32qfR+0CGidYRsqzW716tjyUhRV42A1sXyrfbEnbVERHzqOoPz05uyM5khXZFX610w l8sWwcWb5cYD/dIJdqKjJhnumlRCj/ytvu9Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uDsOrGYOpUtUn/5+W86sz5KoOgmSoVwu8R8OVqEwWW++hHhZjqnH296n+arqfL2ZfV mjioZlOl1wx6yo+1YaSUCSFDUbibnRnQ28ulR0iVlD6ly6Xktz7MKsAiohsCF6WdghVD 2e9ZekANGQKFAu0wvZKMglCsmmPkDQLDgofDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:19:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: GR-55 offers some interesting effect processing control From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:19:55 +0000 (UTC) The PDF manual for Rolands new guitar synt GR-55 is now available online and I just downloaded it and had a look. Wow, this looks very interesting! Roland has equipped this box with what they call "virtual expression pedal" (VAP). This is an effect that simulates a slow fade of an expression pedal, but all in the software. You set a target parameter, the start value and the final value and then the time for how long it will take before the level arrives at the final value. The VAP is to be triggered by the control switch on the floorboard; once you started the morphing process it keeps going while you play on. I imagine setting up a dozen clones of the same patch that only differs by the effect assigned to VAP. Seems quite straight-forward and user friendly and in theory. The morphing idea is not new, in fact this is what we have been toying with in Mobius with those scripts that slowly increase/decrease something. I would also like to mention Augustus Loop that calls it "Intertia", the time for a pitch change to complete. The looper Logelloop offers it, called "Interpolation", applied to swapping between complete mixer snap shots; i.e. every parameter in the whole damn mixer will slowly creep towards its new value. Since Logelloop offers pitch and rate as part of the mixer setup you can do some really cool stuff here. Finally Numerology has this in the MIDI/CV control domain, then called "Glide" and applied to movements in an eight track fader box or dual X-Y graphic grid pad. The higher you set Glide the slower the values crawl towards their new levels. I wish the GR-55 would offer more than one VAP! ;-)) Hmm.... maybe it would be a no brainer for Xavier to implement a control for "value morphing" for the Gordius MIDI control pedalboard? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 11:40:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7F0183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=gPzm+GEK9A8JafGuzO4RywNcCtK2UU7UeVKvIRntftc=; b=RNOpOpAlbx3w36Od5dF1XlslsoA3XNYfh81Uld0HF2S6DukTf4kj2RxlFGgwV0WKdW C0OTqDMxeRDkSYkfG0hF1bqNcqujKh0EjyEL0gKBduX5AMwbTjse59+gRZf8bvr2TKVd pcsJKwGDTA49ON3+ApY/sWjuQbPSgwKzChm/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=eMiMO3px27JL9IA/jGYEV/fH5Dh+tFXMhOM87/VVYu710nH1kXUSa7+vJYLeIxau8E ey6CmYu2ROd/avT70qjwphSARWeKB/ulfYrj0NJ7eEAeAtbvbH4l8k8Du3WSkxX6O+aK pJcQw5azfPw7430VDOP7PUFChXgqm2YW8F+wg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:40:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rAXtgRQ049zZbFVWSA_5aixjRzM Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Physically speaking is the qy 20 smaller than the qy 10? If so GREAT!! Cos the qy10, is NEARLY small enough for my needs.. And @ Andy, I think, from what you are saying, Gordius is just perfect too... I intend getting one, its just a matter of cash right now... Basically, if using the Gordius I would want to HOLD down a pedal (latching would be OK too) and during the hold, deliver a stream of pre-programmed midi notes. Not particularly complex just a bunch of G2s in a row, or at most two note that repeat. Ideally they should be spaced by a midi clock division, I understand that this would be tricky cos it would involve looping back to Gordius a midi cable, and that might make a loop, if Gordius did that anyway... does it? But THAT is just icing on the cake... a stream of notes is enough... at roughly 32nds or 64th... its just that I hav a technique of occasionally hitting MANY undos in a row, and my original drum-machine that I used for this is too big for the space in my rack for just this tiny functionality. Mark On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i think the smallest you'll be able to find with midi out will be the yamaha > qy20. it should do everything you need. i was looking into the qy series as > a source of midi notes for triggering my lp-1 when i had it > > midi file players don't exist (not tiny ones, anyway) - i was looking at > this option as well. i'm surprised nobody makes a little tiny box with a > midi in and out and a usb port, that you could load midi files onto. > karaoke/solo singers might get some use out of it and it would be great for > storing sequences on that could be synced to midi clock. the amount of > memory it would need would be tiny and it could have some transport controls > and a little screen for selecting the file you want. would be dirt cheap to > make. > > sim > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >> mark francombe wrote: >> >>> Small hardware sequencer then? > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 11:54:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32124183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8YpVTY6RjU6vN72eFXkLwllpihBTdL/knTiIPlOl4K0=; b=aj38BMq68FYXSoPYLftHaTo/GgJoxmFPURvK0hmqIIvAg3hG2bXDMTSvfYjrD9QB5B kUaK3pVbgpb2U4Dze0cbvFTQz6tHZd5Ik3TaG7ZMctBmhEMMenbuojVlLgfopQSQzw3Z 1aj59K/WxdD5xNz/MXkAwRNXWZVHrucbBlJd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=csSEnXwuKmx4RYrp/ZD66AjqIWB3WazxcnO7FyFhQT04u7qdSCoMal42IwqIWtof4h emtRveZwNfORn2Jg2EyqFGbuEIiTc9fQWS4K91FThyE0vGtg37/2sGg05zoyfc4qzq9/ 6nAHoPROq+uD7ywJdg6S847QQg5OGRAjwTECc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:54:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GR-55 offers some interesting effect processing control From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba181976777ec3049bec3d56 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:54:13 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba181976777ec3049bec3d56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I wish the GR-55 would offer more than one VAP! ;-)) Hmm.... maybe it > would be a no brainer for Xavier to implement a control for "value > morphing" for the Gordius MIDI control pedalboard? > Sorry for spamming the list but I just read the Gorudius manual and found that it already can do this? It is called "ControlChange Sweeping" and explained on page 90. Here's a short quote: After correctly configuring the MIDI stream, a continuous stream or =E2=80= =9Csweep=E2=80=9D > of control messages will be transmitted when selecting the preset, starti= ng > with the specified ControlChange start value, ending with the specified e= nd > value, and sending all intermediate values between both. With this featur= e > you can for instance slowly fade a parameter between 2 values. > The sweep functionality also has some built-in intelligence. If you defin= e > a rising sweep to be sent when activating an effect, and a falling sweep > with the same ControlChange number when de- activating the effect, the 2 > sweeps will be smartly joined together when the effect switching is done > faster than the sweep itself. As soon as you deactivate the effect which > still has a rising control sweep running, the sweep will be interrupted a= nd > the parameter value will start descending from the point it reached at th= at > moment till the end value of the descending sweep. Per --90e6ba181976777ec3049bec3d56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wish the GR-55 wo= uld offer more than one VAP! ;-)) =C2=A0Hmm.... maybe it
> would be a= no brainer for Xavier to implement a control for "value
> morphing" for the Gordius MIDI control pedalboard?
>
Sorry for spamming the list but I just read the Gorudius manual and found = that it already can do this? It is called "ControlChange Sweeping"= ; and explained on page 90.

Here's a short quote:

After correctly configuring the MIDI stream, a continuous stream or =E2=80= =9Csweep=E2=80=9D of control messages will be transmitted when selecting th= e preset, starting with the specified ControlChange start value, ending wit= h the specified end value, and sending all intermediate values between both= . With this feature you can for instance slowly fade a parameter between 2 = values.
The sweep functionality also has some built-in intelligence. If you define = a rising sweep to be sent when activating an effect, and a falling sweep wi= th the same ControlChange number when de- activating the effect, the 2 swee= ps will be smartly joined together when the effect switching is done faster= than the sweep itself. As soon as you deactivate the effect which still ha= s a rising control sweep running, the sweep will be interrupted and the par= ameter value will start descending from the point it reached at that moment= till the end value of the descending sweep.

Per --90e6ba181976777ec3049bec3d56-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:11:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67BD6183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: powering a U.S. 9vac 115 with a 9vac 220 adaptor References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4--942407629"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:10:55 -0500 Thread-Topic: powering a U.S. 9vac 115 with a 9vac 220 adaptor Thread-Index: AcvJG6L/kAJ8dA9rTveERDRvohRuHQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 12:11:52.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3639920:01CBC91B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:11:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--942407629 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sure, I always get dual voltage now for all my ps's in case of euro touring On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:45 AM, "Louie Angulo" wr= ote: > hi folks, > im buying a device thats 9VAC 300mA from the states,is it ok to to > just replace the power supply with a european one? most of the ones i > bought overthere have worked with no problems,but just want to make > sure,this is an older device. > thanx > Luis >=20 --Apple-Mail-4--942407629 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Sure, I always get dual voltage now for all my ps's in case of euro touring



On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:45 AM, "Louie Angulo" <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:

hi folks,
im buying a device thats 9VAC 300mA from the states,is it ok to to
just replace the power supply with a european one? most of the ones i
bought overthere have worked with no problems,but just want to make
sure,this is an older device.
thanx
Luis

--Apple-Mail-4--942407629-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:19:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D79B4183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578247252/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.168/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.168 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4BAAtmU01YbRKo/2dsb2JhbAAMhBGTL7h6kEaBJ4M/dgSPHw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,451,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="578247252" Message-ID: <4D53D7CC.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:19:24 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 64 bit software loopers? References: <067E1379-CAF1-45E9-B00F-76777D79C1C5@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4GnajD.A.kAB.Gf9UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > The only people I know that already benefit from 64 bit coded system > and music applications are producer colleges that run extremely large > sample library on the top of the line octacore boxes. Simply because the RAM memory now has a 64bit address. (= fast access to much more memory). If we're gonna do 64bit audio I'd expect a 64bit processor to be a lot faster...but I personally wouldn't expect the to be worthwhile soundwise. (and 3x the disk space for audio files). I'd actually expect that a 32bit processor would be faster running 32bit audio processing than one that used 64bit processing on 32bit audio if all other things were equal ( which they aren't) because running a 64bit instruction has to create twice the heat of running a 32bit instruction...and it's heat generation that limits processor speed. ..and of course processing speed isn't the only consideration. I'd be pleasantly surprised if 64bit machines offered lower latency. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:29:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D658183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7C620D97-FA16-4747-A92F-D4EC1F6A7342@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Thread-Index: AcvJHPUyOgf7h7w/TWato9GWS3CExw== From: "Andy Owens" Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:20:23 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2011 12:29:53.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[37DF3D10:01CBC91E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Itouch and http://line6.com/midimobilizer/ Midi in and out and a shiiteload of apps that ought to do it. Saw at NAMM Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:32:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8DC9183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578254746/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.168/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.168 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au0BAI9pU01YbRKo/2dsb2JhbAAMl0DJOYVcBI8f X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,451,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="578254746" Message-ID: <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:32:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Xavier Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:32:28 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > And @ Andy, > > I think, from what you are saying, Gordius is just perfect too... I > intend getting one, its just a matter of cash right now... > Basically, if using the Gordius I would want to HOLD down a pedal > (latching would be OK too) and during the hold, deliver a stream of > pre-programmed midi notes. Not particularly complex just a bunch of > G2s in a row, or at most two note that repeat. I'm not sure, it may be necessary to hit a *different* switch to end the 'sequence'. Great idea though, I'd try it out right away if I wasn't meant to be working now. >Ideally they should be > spaced by a midi clock division, I understand that this would be > tricky cos it would involve looping back to Gordius a midi cable, and > that might make a loop, if Gordius did that anyway... does it? that works, the LG can follow midi clock and *not* pass it to the outputs. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7BE118345A; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=34cuF0Sy/0udZNVTKwHv1PRrTI0YuwFpkmrHwHyWkbQ=; b=L+fBBUNzB/lCElHr4P9cf7JX9C7ZlwmpsGpkwxRs8Ic3dhMn5Kuh3TD8l7AvENq0Sy lpylDURPCMO/4Xg2WtDyyenac2GwcPsMttZ+tE5uLJxWDxxYJhBlLFegQgeo4n9MiH3S /E3lkhqyrOuPYQoUGaRZwiT1FUnAt534eahnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Te24H653TdsX0ptIYBHyCKF9aq7TaACEB8dgZSLtv/LqxHp4m4J4ED2E3NedQn+B8l tf6PoTeVr5bHiEPBWZykAJDQT4GE1cOIDBA7Di8VxEVaXzTKAV8kVlNrdCYWuGqsCF0L bgPieJ3oxo7lE7+5+3u1V4tRkvLStPQwXXSVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:37:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-KuSyB.A.mfB.3v9UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:37:11 +0000 (UTC) >> Ideally they should be >> spaced by a midi clock division, I understand that this would be >> tricky cos it would involve looping back to Gordius a midi cable, and >> that might make a loop, if Gordius did that anyway... does it? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:32 PM, andy butler wro > that works, > the LG can follow midi clock and *not* pass it to the outputs Funnily, I was just reading about that in the LG2 manual. Check out this quote from page 90! Seems to be what Mark needs: "Another closely related message type is the =E2=80=9CSyncedDelay=E2=80=9D.= Its functionalitly is identical: insert a delay at any place in the MIDI stream. Only important difference is that the SyncedDelay length is expressed in terms of a MIDI Clock: you can define a delay ranging from 1 to 127 =E2=80=9C16th notes=E2=80=9D, a 16th note being 6 MIDI clocks= . This means that the delay is synchronized with a MIDI clock signal. This clock can be fed into the LG through its MIDI IN port(s), or it can be generated by the LG itself, using its metronome or taptempo functionality. Actually, when using the internal MIDI clock, it is not necessary to really activate transmission of MIDI clock messages (see chapter 17.10.1). Activating the metronome or taptempo function itself is sufficient." Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 12:39:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09726183477; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:39:48 UTC Message-id: <0LGE00G4ZGE97720@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:39:41 -0500 From: "Richard Rives" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Reply-to: "Richard Rives" Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! In-reply-to: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> X-Mailer: Palm webOS v1.0.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Alternative__boundary__1297337985016 Resent-Message-ID: <_sY2mB.A._pB.Uy9UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:39:48 +0000 (UTC) --Alternative__boundary__1297337985016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alesis SR16? Perhaps -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Feb 9, 2011 7:19 PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrot= e:=20 So.. Small drummachine. Anyone? No? Small hardware sequencer then? Small anything that sends out midi notes... Jeez... Is this another reason to get a gordius? Mark --Alternative__boundary__1297337985016 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alesis SR16? Perhaps



-- Sent from my Palm= Pre

On Feb 9, 2011 7:19= PM, mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com> wrote:

So.. Sma= ll drummachine. Anyone? No? Small hardware sequencer then?
Small anything that sends out midi notes... Jeez... Is this another
reason to get a gordius?

Mark

 --Alternative__boundary__1297337985016-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 13:21:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B252183461; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D53E65F.1000701@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 05:21:35 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:21:42 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I have 2 iphones... neither of them send midi!!!! > > No this has to hav a permanent place in my rack .. that means.. NO > COMPUTERS !!! > > Mark I'm beta testing list member, Hans Lindauer's new product, the 'Missing Link' as we speak, Mark which allows an iPhone to use the TouchOSC app to wirelessly send a message to a small box (size of a midi merge box) which then converts that OSC signal to a midi signal that you can connect to anything that uses midi. You iPhone can wirelessly control any midi device...........so very soon, your iPhone WILL send midi signals. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 13:43:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C374E18345F; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D53EB89.6000105@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 05:43:37 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MARK FRANCOMBE CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6IEQBD.A.eGD.Pu-UNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:43:43 +0000 (UTC) BOSS DR 220 put out in 1987 They show up regularly on E-bay Very small footprint. Smaller than the Alesis SR 16 By the way, check out the DAED circuit bend of this drum machine. Very hip. http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DR-220A-Dr-Rhythm-Digital-Drum-Machine-/260638800263?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3caf487987#ht_5401wt_907 > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 13:47:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E2F7183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <22B720AC-2875-4243-92FE-20334853A027@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--936632819 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:47:10 +0900 References: <4D52E01E.2060303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D530300.6020403@tiscali.co.uk> <5FC7CB92-29AE-4713-9342-6D2B04AB2971@sea.plala.or.jp> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:47:10 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--936632819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, cool. This is looking possible. I actually ordered a similar cable for my newly arrived Yamaha EZ-EG at the beginning of January from a company in Singapore on Ebay. It never came. Waiting for a replacement. I'm not holding my breath but it was only $0.99, $7 with shipping. On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > You can use the Uno which is a cable with usb on one end and midi in/ > out on the other. Very portable and would allow any midi > footcontroller to be plugged into your usb port. > http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-1--936632819 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, cool. This is looking = possible. 
I actually ordered a similar cable for my newly = arrived Yamaha EZ-EG at the beginning of January from a company in = Singapore on Ebay. It never came. Waiting for a replacement. I'm not = holding my breath but it was only $0.99, $7 with = shipping.

On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Todd Matthews = wrote:

You can use = the Uno which is a cable with usb on one end and midi in/out on the = other. Very portable and would allow any midi footcontroller to be = plugged into your usb port.

= --Apple-Mail-1--936632819-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 14:12:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DB51183475; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:12:05 +0900 Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Thread-Index: AcvJLH6aiJ26kEPrQ5C29EP+iZ/IWg== In-Reply-To: <2234305060091352641@unknownmsgid> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC) On 2/10/11 3:50 PM, "mark francombe" wrote: > On 10 Feb 2011, at 03:54, Dustbunnies wrote: > >> Finally, (leading question here:) does it absolutely have to be done with >> MIDI Notes? Is there any chance you could get the same effect control by >> programming a CC > > Ah... Maybe. But us that gonna make the search on a box any easier? Found this the other day; don't know if this would work, Molten Midi 2 from Molten Voltage: http://moltenvoltage.com/molten_midi_2.html About the size of a standard MXR pedal, I think. It sends a sequenced set of command values which can be pre-programmed. It's designed to work with the Digitech Whammy pedal, but I did a little digging and I think it's merely sending CC#11 values. Also, the guy who makes these goes on about 'custom work' in a couple places. If you need something other than CC#11, you might be able to talk him into making a minor modification or two (perhaps even MIDI Notes). Just a thought.... --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 14:35:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 732B018345F; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pGkbSW6zcZs0GVnVvfUZqpGZIm4Mc35iQr2sD+lFqrg=; b=sdoktjLJOxYfQowgz/tQFtdcFT3uUBrPTsM88oUAAmQ8Ma8OKUToE0ngKiZE2C0DBF IgZ0V6l5VhI46FaQFbVr0haqYqATY/sIo/8hmisuo8te+wJYLAib4fhxZlgyHzwEPJnR 7r6lu85l4Yg+fo0ZAc46y3kEGr+U6n1R0h/10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=gfx/c3ZGA0oWary3/DbHXSNk/4PvnXH/ex/18I0Z8KtSzB/ux6b7fnVrScCUmrBKxr LnLoi3VSJNTm3kH9tEFe1JANjwQm/9LmKb6i9yXzoimNRcww5Oxy3MUi/YwiIYfmz4kw 10JmZf2j52Lec3roSFVxc3oErtAxsC7XcLBqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <2234305060091352641@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750daecaf443d049bee7ca6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) --00151750daecaf443d049bee7ca6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 that's brilliant, if you could mod with midi notes and a remote footswitch, you'd be rockin i see it sends midi clock, but doesn't receive it though... On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > > Found this the other day; don't know if this would work, Molten Midi 2 from > Molten Voltage: > > http://moltenvoltage.com/molten_midi_2.html > > About the size of a standard MXR pedal, I think. > > --00151750daecaf443d049bee7ca6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's brilliant, if you could mod with midi notes and a remote footswi= tch, you'd be rockin

i see it sends midi clock, but doesn't = receive it though...

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011= at 2:12 PM, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

Found this the other day; don't know if this would work, Molten Midi 2 = from
Molten Voltage:

=A0 =A0http://moltenvoltage.com/molten_midi_2.html

About the size of a standard MXR pedal, I think.

--00151750daecaf443d049bee7ca6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 14:55:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B51FD183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pPODINHbNNVpNHaq835DzCQOMaNTra25sGYP6NH6G6A=; b=v8e0Ed59loMD9K4J49x+z5SxcIx5+uPTW6wpmNlNe/36aTr0W36+kq05sgrPxuMwnx Ksu84Tgdj5QAnTVzJ16AZNQvMmTLN4nfySyUgVPKmD1kz86YFtz8x6WtFSB4Umi3gfBB kswpYc4N4/KFi30nASyXSDMgTjpQXnsp9Wcwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wOlq4PKuzBB2U7Purg75LlTpOE5yrSCxEhcW6YrCB0uhY1ubCGzWc6LXhdtXJeOoBi gfbZ3/ybTmmMniiew0EmvVRmH8az/WUn4l7T398ZZBl9qLtcTvstftUsd/T4v5flEGSS tXVr9nGZHWKQ7jBjq+unmNBTYxN46jcc62Hkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:55:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5e39cb2fa049beec5d7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:55:32 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5e39cb2fa049beec5d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, graphic card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so I know you know is this worth any money or not. (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) Many thanks if you care to answer me...! -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a5e39cb2fa049beec5d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as S= oundPlant-machine on my looping gigs.
It's from 2004, it's got 1= .2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, graphic card is ATI Mobility Rad= eon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM.

What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer?In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so I kn= ow you know is this worth any money or not.
(My own opinion is 50 euros = (60 dollars) or something like that.)

Many thanks if you care to answer me...!

--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a5e39cb2fa049beec5d7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 15:28:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B1C4183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Efm57DNFs3ja8fjt9bu08CpHABzvRe0Bqf1vH5C0xqA=; b=bJY1EkMRtUwKOh9ZKESREPlp0YoqELP9Whvg8sZkz7aZp70p02M7byYJZDOxQbaSX6 IG6Jv7wOtV+A1eNV30Tr6Cu5cU8ke6kgGLkvRVUT8bFx86Ypgh+HLZ8aswxt/YOURHcJ OFbVd+mTbCSE1LKkWc0PCUcvoIjKSFXIW3pgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Djxu+gX6yOT3cWeO5ngwWy4u4TDhKUgv18XdlIzjuiQdYiCpiV4XX+wIiJPSu2JXE6 dC35RrNBOC18zwEFOUfTo3DDu9tv3joGULW2QkWmAK5KZTKQotJ24w5oe8Hshly//Qfg NKS6+QeCoS6WqEHOfYCdUn55jXd2TnyaFKWws= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:28:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7zO2i14qb_YAuxajuXdAlUyI34w Message-ID: Subject: Re: GR-55 offers some interesting effect processing control To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6eRvNB.A.smF.yQAVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Thats just Crazy Per... I gotta get one!!!! >> The sweep functionality also has some built-in intelligence. If you define >> a rising sweep to be sent when activating an effect, and a falling sweep >> with the same ControlChange number when de- activating the effect, the 2 >> sweeps will be smartly joined together when the effect switching is done >> faster than the sweep itself. As soon as you deactivate the effect which >> still has a rising control sweep running, the sweep will be interrupted and >> the parameter value will start descending from the point it reached at that >> moment till the end value of the descending sweep. > > Per -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 16:45:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3AEC183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=X5HZPNS+UXB4uMQaGapHW9mAJzWleu3Hc5OR9HPvQao=; b=K4TFBD1BMzLoSRbNpaEaogr6LDN/aGsdaWi7ASpoAfJx4D5TKoZcWRpXYOXclSwXf5 +bviwaJtOE4dOs6c5v96lS7JUBtTW6S0GaXMi9wjEFuAlHcPCjuMU0/7bLffJZt8uwWy ZQxcOVnQvufKzosWPyCIhYfzG+Tf89+LsaKN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pcegbB+CTBJcrZ3Ilcjv0o5ichynhEYqZnsA7FuR4T6tXOafExhbnSZe/+Du/KSrJO IDWAIkE/2M2s/sHOiOC4n5z1S5Dgmt/7znrgn30xS25qFfZOOh3M8+m0XE2DJHJElowR uzaAOxxc9tdWdGjVPPiI7MnFUovUz4dWxAS6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:45:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Looping article in the Daily Iowan (Iowa City, IA) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7796491e72a049bf04eed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:45:21 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7796491e72a049bf04eed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable article below, it appears that looping has hit our college paper....enjoy...s-- Iowa City sees rise in electronic music BY* EVAN CLARK * | FEBRUARY 10, 2011 *7:10 AM* [image: SocialTwist Tell-a-Friend] Iowa City musician and Public Property frontman Dave Bess is just beginning his career as a solo artist. Without a drummer, rhythm guitarist, and bass player, one could imagine Bess=92 one-man show features acoustic songs. Yet for him, it=92s no band, no problem: His live performances use just as many instruments as any full-band gigs. With the tap of his feet, his guita= r changes to a bass. Another flick of a switch, he nods his head as the percussion kicks in. When he puts it all together, he has a full band =97 a= nd it=92s all thanks to equipment that is changing the way artists make music. =93When I bought my loop foot pedal, it opened a whole new world of music f= or me,=94 he said. =93You can record anything on that pedal.=94 For his drums, he uses a Cajon =97 a wooden box that imitates a kick or sna= re drum =97 which he records and loops for his percussion. From there, he lays down the guitar tracks and vocals through his loop pedal, which gives him all the requirements needed for a band. His loop pedal allows him to continue performing without a backing band, something that would have seemed nearly impossible more than 25 years ago. And as the technology has evolved, electronic music has rushed onto the scene, allowing artists to loop instruments and samples together all with the push of a button. Of course, local musicians are not the only ones incorporating technology i= n their music; national acts such as Dan Deacon and Girl Talk have taken advantage of the technology. Deacon, an award-winning dance-electronic artist, will show off his music a= t 9 p.m. Saturday at Gabe=92s, 330 E. Washington St. Admission is $12. The sh= ow is sponsored by KRUI as a launch party for its new website. Deacon has released two full-length albums to much acclaim, including his 2009 album, Bromst. On it, he explores the genre by using many instruments and looping them together on the computer to create an explosive sound, wit= h synthesizer, drum kits, and various vocal samples. Drew Ingersoll, the musi= c director at KRUI, believes Deacon is the perfect example of what electronic music is about. =93We went for [Deacon] because we want to create this party atmosphere and knew he would be the perfect fit for the students here,=94 Ingersoll said. =93His music is different from what you hear everywhere else. It=92s all electronic, tons of loops, and very creative. You=92ll hear birds chirping, cats meowing, and his live presence incorporates the crowd in his set; he= =92s surrounded by the crowd =97 which is perfect for what we=92re going for.=94 Though technology lets electronic artists structure their music in many ways, incorporating all the loops isn=92t as easy as stepping on a few peda= ls or pressing a couple buttons. Bess needed a few weeks of practice with all his different looping and effect pedals to get the hang of it. It took a couple shows for him to get comfortable with the technology, but he now feels a different kind of creativity using all the equipment, especially when performing live. =93The blessing, and the curse of it all, is that you have total control,= =94 he said. =93There=92s a lot more room for experimenting with other ideas, and = as far as playing live, that=92s definitely one of the benefits. There=92s a l= ot of room for improvisation, and a song can be different every single night.=94 The emergence of electronic technology and equipment has not only gained popularity, it allows aspiring musicians to record material on their laptop= s in the comfort of their homes. Ingersoll sees the spread of electronic musi= c as a direct result of the variety of equipment that=92s available. =93I think it=92s expanding because of technology in general,=94 he said. = =93Kids can record in their bedrooms and on their laptops, and so much is happening with this genre that makes music more accessible for people.=94 Kirkwood student Dustin Gustafson is a local artist who takes advantage of the technological convenience and records his music using guitar, pedals, and laptop. He is amazed that through all this complicated technology, making good music is easier than ever. =93It=92s crazy all the things I can do with music through my laptop,=94 he= said. =93I can layer all my guitar recordings on Garage Band [a recording softwar= e for Apple] to give a fuller texture with all different kinds of effects and distortion, and I mix it all on my laptop. The best thing is that most of the equipment needed for recording is rather cheap, and anyone can figure out how to use it.=94 One of the consequences that new technology offers regarding music is that it allows anyone to call her- or himself an artist by meshing an instrumental beat with an a cappella vocal track and enjoy YouTube success. The electronic genre at times appears congested with so many individuals aspiring for glory, something Bess believes can take away from real artists who are using technology to expand on their creativity. Bess, who loops all of his instruments live during his performances, is passionate about the subject. =93I feel strongly about all this DJ music that comes out nowadays,=94 he s= aid. =93They=92re not playing music, they=92re just making samples, and some are= n=92t even calling themselves DJ or think of themselves as artists. If you=92re playing a computer and not playing things you wrote, you=92re a DJ, and the= re is an art to that whole mixing process. But there=92s a line when you=92re = not playing instruments and just solely depending on technology.=94 Ingersoll agrees with Bess about the drastic increase in the number of people in the electronic genre, but he believes that whatever the music, th= e audience=92s preference rules. =93I think we all have an ear for music,=94 he said. =93At first, when you= =92re listening to electronic music, you have to separate from what=92s good or b= ad. Also, I feel there=92s a big emphasis on the live shows, which is where the money=92s at for most artists today. But the bottom line is no matter what music you make and what equipment you use, there still needs to be a level of creativity involved in order to be successful.=94 --001485f7796491e72a049bf04eed Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

article below, it appears that looping has hit our college paper....enjo= y...s--


Iowa Ci= ty sees rise in electronic music

BY EVAN CLARK | FEBRUARY 10, 2011 7:10 AM

3D"SocialTwist =20 =20

Iowa City musician and Public Property frontman=20 Dave Bess is just beginning his career as a solo artist. Without a=20 drummer, rhythm guitarist, and bass player, one could imagine Bess=92=20 one-man show features acoustic songs.

Yet for him, it=92s no band, no problem: His live= =20 performances use just as many instruments as any full-band gigs. With=20 the tap of his feet, his guitar changes to a bass. Another flick of a=20 switch, he nods his head as the percussion kicks in. When he puts it all together, he has a full band =97 and it=92s all thanks to equipment that i= s changing the way artists make music.

=93When I bought my loop foot pedal, it opened a=20 whole new world of music for me,=94 he said. =93You can record anything on= =20 that pedal.=94

For his drums, he uses a Cajon =97 a wooden box tha= t imitates a kick or snare drum =97 which he records and loops for his=20 percussion. From there, he lays down the guitar tracks and vocals=20 through his loop pedal, which gives him all the requirements needed for a band.

His loop pedal allows him to continue performing=20 without a backing band, something that would have seemed nearly=20 impossible more than 25 years ago. And as the technology has evolved,=20 electronic music has rushed onto the scene, allowing artists to loop=20 instruments and samples together all with the push of a button.

Of course, local musicians are not the only ones=20 incorporating technology in their music; national acts such as Dan=20 Deacon and Girl Talk have taken advantage of the technology.

Deacon, an award-winning dance-electronic artist,= =20 will show off his music at 9 p.m. Saturday at Gabe=92s, 330 E. Washington= =20 St. Admission is $12. The show is sponsored by KRUI as a launch party=20 for its new website.

Deacon has released two full-length albums to much acclaim, including his 2009 album, Bromst. On it, he explores the genre by using many instruments and looping them together on the computer to=20 create an explosive sound, with synthesizer, drum kits, and various=20 vocal samples. Drew Ingersoll, the music director at KRUI, believes=20 Deacon is the perfect example of what electronic music is about.

=93We went for [Deacon] because we want to create= =20 this party atmosphere and knew he would be the perfect fit for the=20 students here,=94 Ingersoll said. =93His music is different from what you= =20 hear everywhere else. It=92s all electronic, tons of loops, and very=20 creative. You=92ll hear birds chirping, cats meowing, and his live=20 presence incorporates the crowd in his set; he=92s surrounded by the crowd =97 which is perfect for what we=92re going for.=94

Though technology lets electronic artists=20 structure their music in many ways, incorporating all the loops isn=92t as easy as stepping on a few pedals or pressing a couple buttons. Bess=20 needed a few weeks of practice with all his different looping and effect pedals to get the hang of it. It took a couple shows for him to get=20 comfortable with the technology, but he now feels a different kind of=20 creativity using all the equipment, especially when performing live.

=93The blessing, and the curse of it all, is that= =20 you have total control,=94 he said. =93There=92s a lot more room for=20 experimenting with other ideas, and as far as playing live, that=92s=20 definitely one of the benefits. There=92s a lot of room for improvisation, and a song can be different every single night.=94

The emergence of electronic technology and=20 equipment has not only gained popularity, it allows aspiring musicians=20 to record material on their laptops in the comfort of their homes.=20 Ingersoll sees the spread of electronic music as a direct result of the=20 variety of equipment that=92s available.

=93I think it=92s expanding because of technology i= n=20 general,=94 he said. =93Kids can record in their bedrooms and on their=20 laptops, and so much is happening with this genre that makes music more=20 accessible for people.=94

Kirkwood student Dustin Gustafson is a local=20 artist who takes advantage of the technological convenience and records=20 his music using guitar, pedals, and laptop. He is amazed that through=20 all this complicated technology, making good music is easier than ever.

=93It=92s crazy all the things I can do with music= =20 through my laptop,=94 he said. =93I can layer all my guitar recordings on= =20 Garage Band [a recording software for Apple] to give a fuller texture=20 with all different kinds of effects and distortion, and I mix it all on=20 my laptop. The best thing is that most of the equipment needed for=20 recording is rather cheap, and anyone can figure out how to use it.=94

One of the consequences that new technology offers regarding music is that it allows anyone to call her- or himself an=20 artist by meshing an instrumental beat with an a cappella vocal track=20 and enjoy YouTube success.

The electronic genre at times appears congested=20 with so many individuals aspiring for glory, something Bess believes can take away from real artists who are using technology to expand on their creativity. Bess, who loops all of his instruments live during his=20 performances, is passionate about the subject.

=93I feel strongly about all this DJ music that=20 comes out nowadays,=94 he said. =93They=92re not playing music, they=92re j= ust=20 making samples, and some aren=92t even calling themselves DJ or think of=20 themselves as artists. If you=92re playing a computer and not playing=20 things you wrote, you=92re a DJ, and there is an art to that whole mixing= =20 process. But there=92s a line when you=92re not playing instruments and jus= t solely depending on technology.=94

Ingersoll agrees with Bess about the drastic=20 increase in the number of people in the electronic genre, but he=20 believes that whatever the music, the audience=92s preference rules.

=93I think we all have an ear for music,=94 he said= .=20 =93At first, when you=92re listening to electronic music, you have to=20 separate from what=92s good or bad. Also, I feel there=92s a big emphasis o= n the live shows, which is where the money=92s at for most artists today.=20 But the bottom line is no matter what music you make and what equipment=20 you use, there still needs to be a level of creativity involved in order to be successful.=94

--001485f7796491e72a049bf04eed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 16:54:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 101E318345A; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uWwXJegJOCh81ki4oMJbjTqVAyFAlZSydaoUa7touGs=; b=QQm/aOFkCsuc1IiO+glSV56xoMhOpK4XHf9LcP1bDdEjxHDzr6Abnde2DOzGWP/VLI irprae/k+INqgpNLPizCEtP7GDtAT7VoEnN1vbld1gucVHN4nOVMe5iReFyubVUfbuCP CtEude8K4q/7N6uP3+MvWwuZK+Wxr0IHU5dWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HkPRioZ+u0h+vpxiHzgxqMAcgevjm/WdzbgiciDc1a2yBjkzZH6jqg1ndZ6Nxz3Kdw WDBNn81dVwEsAsWne4BhFu6dKgEURwzOsrJlbz6oVE0VHvLJeoR54JxaES+wWe8CnWto NyLiM6Vo5ndOhlDOnCavYHJI14+e5NkLY9pK8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:53:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:54:29 +0000 (UTC) hi, worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. This is based on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. http://worthmonkey.com/ Sylvain On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, graphic > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. > > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so I know > you know is this worth any money or not. > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) > > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 17:10:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD70183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:10:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Dear all, thanks for the revealing comments. Larson, i like the cut of your gib!!!, no coyness or sugar coating from you!, Its funny, in spite of the lack of ringing endorsments I still see the SS as a controller I could use. Its really interesting to me as well that the complaints about its lack of tactile feel or an audible click to let you know a preset is engaged run contrary to many people harping about the need for dead quite switching. And the complaints about its small size also run contrary to a general trend I see here and elsewhere that everyone wants lighter, smaller , more powerfull controller options. I can't get the image out of my head of Will Ferrel as Mugato in the movie Zoolander, pulling out his teeny tiny cell phone to talk on. I really do see the issue of the SS's size and profile as being a major one for some. I also think that mounting it securely to an angled surface would go along way to making the back row more accessable. As for the lack of an audible click, as long as its doing its job that would be something I think I could get used to. This all being said, I love my Gordius LG, best midi controller I've ever owned. I'm actually looking at an SS for the purpous of having an expanded switching system of upwards of 22 presets available with out shifting banks. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 17:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48910183464; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=EbgJuaZvn8IZhVzF1IYQMBELjL+gygbi4dL1aMk3n88=; b=QORw4zNFXGRLCNdGm0cGdP79DNURflmMQlt5SOHeKs1zUnF39tsVbreprFqmQxrYOA k8Js2LGtl9Nm8/lVv/JippFSSks/2geKftRv+PInbmIC9zbFBR4fSIRgaCw3C2EHU4lg ZNPXHypKeMDmTxb5OyDjlCW6h2gcxQimq7gRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=hvKZf/m0Bcf0SL5Mxe+Em4iRL4L/DkQTRpHeAJXjvSctF5peVpXK17S98xEoQ5rTxa C+h1Lw0s7ZyB7FZtcrj6hI4/01M9pYEyxWM08qq2vC6BvA/HcfmeE3fGLtHFBF1QVjVA 5GOMC/tujeA5Ecva2msLg/pQ7ugOiKPce4/Gc= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:33:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15B14A19-ECD4-47DC-A3C4-A7FABD0B5DFA@gmail.com> References: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Hey Bill For me the tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual = feedback of the led lighting up momentarily as well as a four character = display changing to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, MUTE, FADE, = etc.) -Todd Matthews On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:10 PM, William Walker wrote: > Dear all, thanks for the revealing comments. Larson, i like the cut of = your gib!!!, no coyness or sugar coating from you!, Its funny, in spite = of the lack of ringing endorsments I still see the SS as a controller I = could use. Its really interesting to me as well that the complaints = about its lack of tactile feel or an audible click to let you know a = preset is engaged run contrary to many people harping about the need for = dead quite switching.=20 > Bill >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 17:33:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA54183473; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 470598.16056.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297359194; bh=3OlEmhSXfw65MyE/4FMXTEWq/tRDYLOVmBBkFmRbbFw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eaJtMSTmFXjeJ5Kj2lAiPFurO8RjMY/7riIEzMJg9P81fSbzc9pfaaEqu4CNh5rJpkXU1OvK7mkb2EC+kuzcyCjMShOtYC1eKEUNOwvvJqo7WcAlfQprYOqf1P8+5Og2YMwT6M3dCHmyamdLJGU0PiGE/zDzuPsG7EMJRWo4b9o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=brChN7WYTBXoou/2bXgA7uXnlebMR1/ItCgpfffzr/oKSbvKi+CSAJD4NTUlePZWHJEXxiC8QzHSwlosg0yBS68mxeui4VxCCPerhEzqnMprflr1+0ICcZfXsTVlVLpRLdPG1mHJoByzElK6p9mpEh15NmCiHNO6rxFVK2PPB04=; Message-ID: <737443.51386.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kj5R68MVM1mIqJOR0lm28MinsTtNmi_LU2EH.bMNwXKqrdq y3PtlVZqXEYGTWPGeDyFpMfzFsGPb6p_66srr.cAkZwYwmAPO53VHUB03jX. J6KSWF7ZiEIkMLyGFb_iko0vopeBIImSlSu_xfEqaalaWVgNXXjZgVK1Y3SD phMj06Eurj_itabuPO2Ov7esa2c6NECHqiz.6mqdQv1KLkmujxZ_sMvFtUK2 Z2crdV_5BJEkNA_NUrDiOU9KprOJOQUT584Rk7hgI7tdKUtxwCX1wNgHIwy7 JjMIi.sPV4jjl.EgvxTF8TZuCtx47HC.4yPMaudg1zGkG9QOF1V1uZTTvq1E BPXkMliEDeVzyRXE0sCgg3gfZEeM2ne9ZhVmQOxDIDYhuU_.fNUQ6JNsG9zC CN30j4tBZHcbt X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Looping article in the Daily Iowan (Iowa City, IA) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-148453540-1297359194=:51386" Resent-Message-ID: <8MNHjB.A.v4.cFCVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:33:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-148453540-1297359194=:51386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Iowa city's just east of me on the freeway....its a great music town...lot = of old hippies...a lot more culture in that town than where i live....most = people come here to "breed'...musics not a priority in a city full of insur= ance company's ..last time i heard of a good touring looper coming through= Iowa...it was Pierre Bensusan playing in Iowa city....Bummer i missed that= one Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=C2=A0 50131=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =C2=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =C2=A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: Looping article in the Daily Iowan (Iowa City, IA) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 10:45 AM article below, it appears that looping has hit our college paper....enjoy..= .s-- =20 Iowa City sees rise in electronic music =0A=0A =20 =0A BY EVAN CLARK | FEBRUARY 10, 2011 7:10 AM=0A =0A =0A =0A Iowa C= ity musician and Public Property frontman =0ADave Bess is just beginning hi= s career as a solo artist. Without a =0Adrummer, rhythm guitarist, and bass= player, one could imagine Bess=E2=80=99 =0Aone-man show features acoustic = songs.=0A ................. --0-148453540-1297359194=:51386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Iowa city= 's just east of me on the freeway....its a great music town...lot of old hi= ppies...a lot more culture in that town than where i live....most people co= me here to "breed'...musics not a priority in a city full of insurance comp= any's ..last time i heard of a good touring looper coming through Iowa...i= t was Pierre Bensusan playing in Iowa city....Bummer i missed that one

Kyle Dean = Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131  &n= bsp;         

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--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen <ev= anpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

From:= Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>
Subject: Looping article in t= he Daily Iowan (Iowa City, IA)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.comDate: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 10:45 AM

article below, it appears that looping has hit our = college paper....enjoy...s--


Iowa City sees rise in el= ectronic music
=0A=0A
=0A BY = EVAN CLARK | FEBRUARY 10, 2011 7:10 AM

=0A =0A =0A =0A

Iowa City musician = and Public Property frontman =0ADave Bess is just beginning his career as a= solo artist. Without a =0Adrummer, rhythm guitarist, and bass player, one = could imagine Bess=E2=80=99 =0Aone-man show features acoustic songs.

=0A=

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--0-148453540-1297359194=:51386-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 18:33:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB08B183453; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: OK Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:33:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Message-ID: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:33:23 +0000 (UTC) VGhhdCBpbXBsaWVzIHRoYXQgeW91J3JlIGxvb2tpbmcgYXQgaXQgdGhvdWdoLiAgSSd2ZSB5ZXQg dG8gbmFpbCBpdCB3aXRob3V0IHN0YXJpbmcgYXQgbXkgZmVldCB0aGUgd2hvbGUgdGltZS4gV2l0 aCB0aGUgMTAxMCBJIGNvdWxkIHJlc3QgbXkgZm9vdCBvbiBpdCBhbmQganVzdCBwZWVrIGV2ZXJ5 IG5vdyBhbmQgdGhlbi4gCgpUb2RkIE1hdHRoZXdzIDxndG1hdHRoZXdzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3Jv dGU6Cgo+SGV5IEJpbGwKPkZvciBtZSB0aGUgdGFjdGlsZSBmZWVkYmFjayBvZiBhIHN3aXRjaCB3 YXMgcmVwbGFjZWQgYnkgdGhlIHZpc3VhbCBmZWVkYmFjayBvZiB0aGUgbGVkIGxpZ2h0aW5nIHVw IG1vbWVudGFyaWx5IGFzIHdlbGwgYXMgYSBmb3VyIGNoYXJhY3RlciBkaXNwbGF5IGNoYW5naW5n IHRvIHNob3cgd2hhdCBJIGp1c3QgcHJlc3NlZC4gKFJFQywgTVVMVCwgTVVURSwgRkFERSwgZXRj LikKPgo+LVRvZGQgTWF0dGhld3MKPk9uIEZlYiAxMCwgMjAxMSwgYXQgMTI6MTAgUE0sIFdpbGxp YW0gV2Fsa2VyIHdyb3RlOgo+Cj4+IERlYXIgYWxsLCB0aGFua3MgZm9yIHRoZSByZXZlYWxpbmcg Y29tbWVudHMuIExhcnNvbiwgaSBsaWtlIHRoZSBjdXQgb2YgeW91ciBnaWIhISEsIG5vIGNveW5l c3Mgb3Igc3VnYXIgY29hdGluZyBmcm9tIHlvdSEsIEl0cyBmdW5ueSwgaW4gc3BpdGUgb2YgdGhl IGxhY2sgb2YgcmluZ2luZyBlbmRvcnNtZW50cyBJIHN0aWxsIHNlZSB0aGUgU1MgYXMgYSBjb250 cm9sbGVyIEkgY291bGQgdXNlLiBJdHMgcmVhbGx5IGludGVyZXN0aW5nIHRvIG1lIGFzIHdlbGwg dGhhdCB0aGUgY29tcGxhaW50cyBhYm91dCBpdHMgbGFjayBvZiB0YWN0aWxlIGZlZWwgb3IgYW4g YXVkaWJsZSAgY2xpY2sgdG8gbGV0IHlvdSBrbm93IGEgcHJlc2V0IGlzIGVuZ2FnZWQgcnVuIGNv bnRyYXJ5IHRvIG1hbnkgcGVvcGxlIGhhcnBpbmcgYWJvdXQgdGhlIG5lZWQgZm9yIGRlYWQgcXVp dGUgc3dpdGNoaW5nLiAKPj4gQmlsbAo+PiAKPgo+Cj4KPgo+Cg== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 19:02:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 626FD183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IEoAkHjkI8xVBgwPOaTP3OZBJpc2djNRAP9eTY8+03w=; b=gsueCFby2orsTCB89f3Tgvkww588r9y2gmn9S7m2c/L12AI928/j8nqgw+zNWDEOeu OpEme7sc2Z0+INac9mUe1wxs08WsuRy0KfjKpfjtZtz50LCugUbQP6jz7UjSMI378ep1 JeGnVrmha+kMKZGmGQeeOty7pdh0VIVkDICVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NNeoqjylGPjt8GI92mCbMYvJMh4zXUEFGXfY2TTUWcZrAfa1tO3L2tWu9JGvgAhIci YHXFnI+PfzPJJudhKdPR91GLSL7Y8nFzHnjKAEFFiFpYTWGgilI8KdTPkoE2n5IScjyU MjntJrORp4hu1EhcSb6H3hw82coY+AWEnFGG8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:02:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368331c04f7807049bf2386f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:02:37 +0000 (UTC) --0016368331c04f7807049bf2386f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mark- as for your midi request, i have no idea. a world i don't to this day understand. for small, cheap- adrenalinns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favored dance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 again just for the drum machine zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top multi-effects have limited drum machines in them. they're ok, these usually can be gotten cheap. i would guess your best bet would be one of the boss units or alessis unit as for the m-audio black box-i had one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds, again, cool drum machine in it, but i didn't think it was too "smallish" it is table top, but it's quite thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of line 6 pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than pod)-i guess you can judge if that seems too big for you. (ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option) i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to be a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you all the data you need about it. happy search! s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016368331c04f7807049bf2386f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mark-
as for your midi request, i have no idea. a world i don't to t= his day understand.

for small, cheap-
adrenalinns-i had a II, &am= p; thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favored dance/groove stuff),= & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 again just for the= drum machine
zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top multi-effects have limited drum ma= chines in them. they're ok, these usually can be gotten cheap.

i= would guess your best bet would be one of the
boss units or
alessis= unit

as for the m-audio black box-i had one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sou= nds, again, cool drum machine in it, but i didn't think it was too &quo= t;smallish" it is table top, but it's
quite thick (i thought).= feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of line 6 pod bean thing (ma= ybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than pod)-i guess you can judg= e
if that seems too big for you.

(ps-i don't think the above thing= s i mentioned will fill your midi option)

i just did an ebay search = for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to be a bunch of funky= things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you all the data you n= eed about it.
happy search!
s---
www= .myspace.com/scotthansen
--0016368331c04f7807049bf2386f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 19:15:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28697183456; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Andre Mueller In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:15:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:15:19 +0000 (UTC) that=B4s my problem with the softstep too. to be sure that I stepped on = the right pad and the particular function is triggered I need the = visual feedback.=20 I regularly have to step on it a second time. this is especially true = for the pads of the second row. this wasn't the case with the FCB1010. andre=20 www.andremu.com Am 10.02.2011 um 19:33 schrieb Zoe Keating: > That implies that you're looking at it though. I've yet to nail it = without staring at my feet the whole time. With the 1010 I could rest my = foot on it and just peek every now and then.=20 >=20 > Todd Matthews wrote: >=20 >> Hey Bill >> For me the tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual = feedback of the led lighting up momentarily as well as a four character = display changing to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, MUTE, FADE, = etc.) >>=20 >> -Todd Matthews >> On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:10 PM, William Walker wrote: >>=20 >>> Dear all, thanks for the revealing comments. Larson, i like the cut = of your gib!!!, no coyness or sugar coating from you!, Its funny, in = spite of the lack of ringing endorsments I still see the SS as a = controller I could use. Its really interesting to me as well that the = complaints about its lack of tactile feel or an audible click to let = you know a preset is engaged run contrary to many people harping about = the need for dead quite switching.=20 >>> Bill >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 19:27:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB898183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=tMd08rYCuVnwg3sFYyh5SeZMtz1wQSu/7PH2LkbrkNc=; b=Kz9u60/QEazfmDI05QOS2PVO1eofp46os69dfBDY96TvOyys5ngHExHgNJs7Pf190g PbboVhU8tPjY9RZiZQruFkS1psHzXDMAhnHtoWlunO/3c7ekj/5FrdADrI3TTGisaIYK I/VPXVJwMTr/09GOjMMMh04jMGUcrfetoTiok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=etaiOz6oIoavqt5i9WX09S3kCVgOeipqPx9xZzKSRpD66aqpD1Xrh+ToNkN4FsGXeM a+hZFUHL9zVRml2J3k8jKZN2KPkoY5QHFPtRdNkYOSQyBzEzLcTc0JTeg3s1lFohn0a5 +t2GaoyOYEzaQCcEM8wVuqn7UGZH+5uBPoqmY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:27:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:27:58 +0000 (UTC) I definitely need that visual feedback and I actually like now that I = can get all the info I need from the display on the softstep instead of = looking at the computer. If I'm not glancing at the softstep then I'm = probably looking down at my bow anyway:) Ima bow gazer. I don't have = experience doing shows so I hadn't even thought that I'd need to work = the controller without looking. I guess I'll find out if thats a = negative once I start doing my first shows in April. That is a big plus for the 1010 if you can work it blind. It would be = extremely impressive if someone can flawlessly operate the SS w/o a = click or the visual feedback.=20 On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > That implies that you're looking at it though. I've yet to nail it = without staring at my feet the whole time. With the 1010 I could rest my = foot on it and just peek every now and then. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 20:16:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14734183462; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5447A4.3080003@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:16:37 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Has this been mentioned yet? BeatMaker2 for the iPhone amongst many other things, it has a pretty cool MPC styled drum/sample manipulation portion of the program which allows you to create and break down a live loop into individual sounds (think separating all the sounds in a breakbeat) for remanipulation. No Midi out, but this is a pretty hip tiny drum machine that also has loop manipulation and synths added. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/the-handheld-studio-evolves-beatmaker-2-developers-explain-their-iphone-workflow/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+createdigitalmusic+(createdigitalmusic.com) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 21:07:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA3DE183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Xlbu/GkIV7aYofoo9AsD8nJ8J8AY3PK3sfNhbjF5/SA=; b=ovzcVbsSh5jQPbj/EYtw3kyBrkeVBjZO1JsP1732adw8n6aAyKcOHkqHdO6nwac/mr NpkpW45RNcYjdu8LK8l2mC8yULmdI2MJXSjNVt6tYyIuOk72Fc/r6cxst2aQh2DUPXMW J6IbQtYCyYSCVWrSaWoEpTV0Ckx+RMy/b8dTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qFP1zGZxyPL7xGMpV6JKeDIT/ym6QY4s97AiASHgddSkhqjGU0Hz/wA/ZfvSepzMwz AyLguc1tS9mJDEVOL7iL8HJBIgebnNGjJqa7Nn7raMmCyedeHSzsTF6bf60BMtXtbvVw KX+ZBA5YjIZPU6a1+w4aew2/udvcf2HlBL6dA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:06:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ms3ggFFtG3SaXvt8CsqVst5nKSI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:07:16 +0000 (UTC) I never felt it needed an AUDIBLE click! But a TACTILE click, and I had to press real hard to make it trigger, but then occasionally it would trigger just cos I rested my foot on it. It got a little better if I wore light thin soles, like a chinese slipper (Oh Alright then it WAS a fucking chinese slipper) because then there was flat surface against flat surface, but it was sad becaouse Im an avid barefooted player, and then I had to use my big toe, and that just began to hurt. I never had a problem with te size of the unit however, I thought, if they had been "normal" switches it would have been quite fine! -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 22:06:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21244183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 529 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:06:34 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: OK Message-Id: <4729993A-E989-441B-8E6E-D411BEE9EA67@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:57:43 -0800 References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:06:34 +0000 (UTC) I'll let you know if I get there. Performing without looking at my gear is important and one of the things I spend a lot of time practicing. On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > That is a big plus for the 1010 if you can work it blind. It would > be extremely impressive if someone can flawlessly operate the SS w/o > a click or the visual feedback. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 22:15:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4A92183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MMMqeVClauq+6P9lOvIK6fhQ2LQ7/1DjindLgc7QVQM=; b=eC9fMHAKMxrC9gKxR93Ksn1F+8MFFo9i0SeegsD7gxsZ8+PEvjj1AEkEetD1LRMjv/ vITxSFRJzOOIc0ujYRwO1ytCLxWqJBsAVQy6JcWh95+OHOwYVZ7buVXqZrtaAATNcbw9 91xxxaCAwYWfSq8eqeBr5xefaXiw8gTWNo5Sc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IhldF1tXnhI9DqentpkAU9SSXfsrU+hJ9lM0D5kMPEN/eKqzt3je5ekn7+oMZywwOP Hjh8M6/XyOd9LdiZuDmeAIZmqXPRU91xctNzvBvtf2V3Vz5bWmfusnNkm+uCYCswGaI9 kSL7YcS+n+dAdySOrgpn7PWVW4Qn8aAjsOQfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:15:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a54117d6f3049bf4ea1c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:15:11 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a54117d6f3049bf4ea1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Sylvain! I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 euros. What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today = not a dime :-D 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras > hi, > worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. This is based > on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. > > http://worthmonkey.com/ > > Sylvain > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as > > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. > > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, > graphic > > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. > > > > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? > > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so I > know > > you know is this worth any money or not. > > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) > > > > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > > -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a54117d6f3049bf4ea1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Sylvain!

I think its bit too much. We have already discussed = it's under 100 euros.

What kind of price would PC from the same = era hold today =3D not a dime

:-D

2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
hi,
worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is based on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay.

http://worthmonkey.co= m/

Sylvain


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it= as
> SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs.
> It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB m= emory, graphic
> card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM.
>
> What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so = I know
> you know is this worth any money or not.
> (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.)
>
> Many thanks if you care to answer me...!
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
> http:= //petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http= ://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
> http://= twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http:= //petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -= Robert Fripp-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a54117d6f3049bf4ea1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 22:56:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA730183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--903660727 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V11 #175 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:56:42 -0800 References: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:56:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--903660727 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd said: > Hey Bill > For me the tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual > feedback of the led lighting up momentarily as well as a four > character display changing to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, > MUTE, FADE, etc.) Zoe said: That implies that you're looking at it though. I've yet to nail it without staring at my feet the whole time. With the 1010 I could rest my foot on it and just peek every now and then. I said: Todd there you go, you read my mind about the way to create a work around, but Zoe I can totally understand your issue as well, and with that in mind as much as i think its the best midi controller available, stay away from the Gordius. It is so responsive that you can, with a really light touch, trigger it silently. Though in the passion of the music making moment that is virtually impossible to do. But when I switched form the FCB1010 to the Gordius it was like moving from a station wagon to a sports car. It took a while to get used to but now the other style feels sluggish, but no way can you rest your foot lightly on the Gordius switches without engaging the command. Bill --Apple-Mail-2--903660727 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   = Todd = said:
Hey Bill
For me the = tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual feedback of the = led lighting up momentarily as well as a four character display changing = to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, MUTE, FADE, = etc.)



 Zoe = said:
That = implies that you're looking at it though.  I've yet to nail it = without staring at my feet the whole time. With the 1010 I could rest my = foot on it and just peek every now and = then. 

I said:
Todd  there you go, = you read my mind about the way to create a work around,  but Zoe I = can totally understand your issue as well, and with that in mind as much = as i think its the best midi controller available,  stay away from = the Gordius. It is so responsive that you can, with a really light = touch,  trigger it silently.  Though in the passion of the = music making moment  that is virtually impossible to do.  But = when I switched form the FCB1010 to the Gordius it was like moving from = a station wagon to a sports car. It took a while to get used to but now = the other style feels sluggish, but no way can you rest your foot = lightly on the Gordius switches without engaging the = command.
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-2--903660727-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 22:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7B3183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjKGeyqpoPmbdkWeZ1YP9eeOfYnnnRp/N6k+CFY//SM=; b=dnxhBC46eRDGw1fRiCi8Dit+PMyeZuBmBxQj5JIDasE3mimP3z+a9pUtemo+LbZRKR Qt+ELWF/UvJZkK20OrotMVccpoyaWs1uhXq1agf1JiTJLfWxCrBs/vuU7RwqcM15LL26 jBu6Jh5bNEKQSI+ftoO9MgnFReUu31TB/zE7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kBbUhhAwLE/anmUwKVOZrO417SrewpI/9q1shyv97/s6lfN6h9cdvtYD8sXrHAl91Y b+pp+scBUoXlU0w+DPjLAkN2cqzLjWuqIcie2dyg6Ksg8lCHvk5Hak+tkbyi+8EgEN7q bRiSIsfp6L0/VRhP9FHSNSs9LPmKldeuAOcAM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <79gulD.A.CXD.O2GVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:58:22 +0000 (UTC) yeah, I think the listings or about iBooks with more RAM. Macs tend to keep their value longer than PCs though... Sylvain On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Thanks Sylvain! > > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 euros. > > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D not a dime > > :-D > > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras >> >> hi, >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is based >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. >> >> http://worthmonkey.com/ >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen >> wrote: >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, >> > graphic >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. >> > >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so = I >> > know >> > you know is this worth any money or not. >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) >> > >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! >> > >> > -- >> > Petri Lahtinen >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> > Fripp- >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.= " >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:14:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E246A18345A; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fBq13rqlK4mYnJISqDpkji6iTmM9yxgsiOauJs9/+QM=; b=uimMkWXSoiyWnofaPPQC7ELXdHLpjKJuTefpq0Wz3gbLL6ghnMv+6KK/r3+/PVNVu9 JK9/JC9A8nDslwpcI7XJ/LXbjOC3OeMuvFFsNhUfyue3JtjSP1fa6OpttrilBT5nZvkE p2XuDQY4655D1RY2o75otOqc4uDl/B9h3hGJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l9Ud5IUAL6zMceiwR0Ti4BFvb4Ft4NWAX0c+enDYO0/ngH4oze8V3NWyDe9ojFHdQY tHxNuSk3zCXDn7EwN0F+ExXWckM3DMUBkFVwH3Vt45wfDmei+k1d0vjGDXUj5DjMG12d LiU/8Bm/XRPMd5VU8qYXkmDyTb6fAvsYD1W1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a2d6855a79049bf5bdb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:14:17 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a2d6855a79049bf5bdb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been filling my mouth with marbles and letting one fall out of my mouth onto the keypad. I try to keep the song short enough to where I don't loose all my marbles before the end of the song. --001636c5a2d6855a79049bf5bdb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been filling my mouth with marbles and letting one fall out of my = mouth onto the keypad. =A0I try to keep the song short enough to where I do= n't loose all my marbles before the end of the song.=20 --001636c5a2d6855a79049bf5bdb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:25:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 626AC18345F; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tYUt4IrR9n4/cA1Kj6AFuz2xl4ln1h8zHD1inGJd8RE=; b=kWfsV9ZeSdKJzDjj3RzjehgcXlOaZjYcpP7W11Z3/6kaLkGxrIFJnOcMMR3KWkrmSd 5CjyDBDHAvPoUCfJjUPlouxJ05OfcIOc/QOBtoQcDlRI/sPyhZW5KPq0tVQtUIvgsesg sSy5n5132+Ese+NtsrzjwnzFiX5P3aj9yCoZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=oYQ9ZtQIirlF44RIgkJE6MhVJI5y34og2sWHt8jX98+1TLFyidv1Kmo/NFxn7zMOzF IghkZ20/wBowBWjlwUSIlZ4d4rIOc9cn5XxDLo+Io3zIElmL0tfVrURVgcI6oqIF/xy6 Tyl5SI7cthf/bnvovRSjxseTVH5pQPUZMzqUM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> References: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:25:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V11 #175 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a529ed5ef6049bf5e59a Resent-Message-ID: <4PfCKD.A.pUE.uPHVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:25:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a529ed5ef6049bf5e59a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. wrong todd this time Bill... but I had read the post, though! cheers, t. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:56 PM, William Walker wro= te: > > Todd said: > > Hey Bill > For me the tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual feedba= ck > of the led lighting up momentarily as well as a four character display > changing to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, MUTE, FADE, etc.) > > > > > Zoe said: > That implies that you're looking at it though. I've yet to nail it witho= ut > staring at my feet the whole time. With the 1010 I could rest my foot on = it > and just peek every now and then. > > I said: > Todd there you go, you read my mind about the way to create a work aroun= d, > but Zoe I can totally understand your issue as well, and with that in mi= nd > as much as i think its the best midi controller available, stay away fro= m > the Gordius. It is so responsive that you can, with a really light touch, > trigger it silently. Though in the passion of the music making moment > that is virtually impossible to do. But when I switched form the FCB101= 0 > to the Gordius it was like moving from a station wagon to a sports car. I= t > took a while to get used to but now the other style feels sluggish, but n= o > way can you rest your foot lightly on the Gordius switches without engagi= ng > the command. > Bill > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a529ed5ef6049bf5e59a Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. =A0wrong todd this time Bill... =A0but I had read the post, though!=A0=

cheers,=A0

t.



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:56 PM= , William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

=A0=A0 Todd said:
Hey Bill
For me the tactile feedback of a switch was replaced by the visual feedback= of the led lighting up momentarily as well as a four character display cha= nging to show what I just pressed. (REC, MULT, MUTE, FADE, etc.)



=A0Zoe said= :
That implies that you're looking a= t it though. =A0I've yet to nail it without staring at my feet the whol= e time. With the 1010 I could rest my foot on it and just peek every now an= d then.=A0

I said:
Todd =A0there you go= , you read my mind about the way to create a work around, =A0but Zoe I can = totally understand your issue as well, and with that in mind as much as i t= hink its the best midi controller available, =A0stay away from the Gordius.= It is so responsive that you can, with a really light touch, =A0trigger it= silently. =A0Though in the passion of the music making moment =A0that is v= irtually impossible to do. =A0But when I switched form the FCB1010 to the G= ordius it was like moving from a station wagon to a sports car. It took a w= hile to get used to but now the other style feels sluggish, but no way can = you rest your foot lightly on the Gordius switches without engaging the com= mand.
Bill

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--20cf3054a529ed5ef6049bf5e59a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:38:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10082183460; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MB0AdAzlGucrJAfNG8tvdpbeqemwQ56VBY4t6XkRAHo=; b=P1knTFXP+5CbOXNNS4fK1gMi1r9MwCtXiDCy+0GAcC54WrVsoQrEsFjpe2fqu+aWda iaaj+KA0zknVjHYGlMrNidcGFIuvhQS7JM+d+4VEnvN5ComcaL+Ygfx8UlTK7TqALZPY C6il4HOEITaI3ybHYntv5WsdcvB0vKYzSw/jE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UxE4HSsKcyEZwo/OYZw4RM+GljKLkHtl0dQB5fGw8zPY1nzTMx4mfmvZU/obZIvcdL Ukg72fpRlUHXSSlojbJOXZzsWvSsl/V79lbGCZlO4CLtB/7rKJOAVXAD3uTRt2EBcNOd YvwR5G3rXa1lZ6jlC3APm1uJppFSm3JcH95n0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:38:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5, i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it's still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive). Good luck! Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Thanks Sylvain! > > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 euros. > > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D not a dime > > :-D > > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras >> >> hi, >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is based >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. >> >> http://worthmonkey.com/ >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen >> wrote: >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, >> > graphic >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. >> > >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so = I >> > know >> > you know is this worth any money or not. >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) >> > >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! >> > >> > -- >> > Petri Lahtinen >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> > Fripp- >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.= " >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:51:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F6C0183466; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=wEx9n7zZjz9Psx+vsG5wYC8pes9kDPNTR/EYHBmNItA=; b=kDeHLrLj8JMxH2oOU323P88rug1T+YYk2jWF4zR/20bVxWFKsV5jEoGNn3UNG3919c L+tHXuHMtDLYaZnSoaWnHNoGbNVPxPHVxMKfK06VwXOEUDwgcLR8GCNKGEYpbFJp7zKT IxmOJsWWw56qQht5SNAu0QEsbbUZdYKIU5hDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=DQaanUQa0nRQcklh2hlqlC/2pIvZC1MEmfdgCZBMtGC8u+mTpB4GRcW0vsXcf7lSUb Ar3GhcD4Zzp+NrFwSu54rGoeBhpQlzjQJhvW4nqe6U5yDNZ6TWb6XpXlTOi7+jEAQnTB 4i3ogdakVhAxTNqJTlzbHDDtAa0TAhH0B+Lkw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V11 #175 From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:51:46 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:51:51 +0000 (UTC) You've been around these parts much longer than me Mr. Reynolds so maybe = I should change my LD name to T-Bone to reduce confusion. On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:25 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > lol. wrong todd this time Bill... but I had read the post, though!=20= >=20 > cheers,=20 >=20 > t. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:54:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6364183482; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=6G5zTfw3h9frZ7/GkylxjKuAlNOV3QCrXwb3xKQJdSU=; b=CU0RyP1/pUOqfG2qW67sryDaY90WpVgMfA+j5mPMoDlN+ltQAMKHIkm/UaXjj81sTl SiEvANAwq3R13XI7EevjHp0OQDTeH4qSvR/Ibxcwv/sSh+yauxpUR0GFlHLxz5vc7Mnn p9y+695FlbXMw6Bx2v5u8F3uvWxazidNiCLT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=vonzXUXlqMllSgEueFWDZ4nHaiqxb5oC3HRCY0DIuC9GWc6YmCmOfQHDzKmiyYAElC I5yAjqkLZ8LS+DmEOUOaDDbEzswOYs6UAxsOhNXhwVmEwRYm5l2dIm031x12MCnZ5dAs CELt6a1h6uW7Yb5RA2tBvZ2uHtNDZYA2zq5U8= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:54:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) I think I just pee'd my pants a little. That's got great potential as a = video! On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:14 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > I've been filling my mouth with marbles and letting one fall out of my = mouth onto the keypad. I try to keep the song short enough to where I = don't loose all my marbles before the end of the song. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 10 23:57:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55FCA183461; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=u1ps2toaI2wZU7kRtBn53fT+qzUrnNotHv16iD9TaM0=; b=kL06HPXc6js54GK4EA3u/YfgFaN+VuV/b2LagUtOmRX6gB9FIh5R8valCojBg1vNU4 zsDHON9AXsKRHUAnyM6B8D/uozRZMlIixdpRUwnOE9+NpYE5jbGWZytlqjFtQdHem5nx wYqSalnyDcCFlUUaEfqVaUrlpqh/9kLlyD9L0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=SJmTHFIZtFgVIXjKuLDXah7QPou8IQqQXRI5fwMmxRGAIDD5gNNQd7mO2hSWM5c6Lx XZfdrUazLHlltjOZaUWSYr0jRTBsCnpudGp+pvZvJMQE6HMO0YNDIeEF25GgRcigGrhO yuReskb2P7QeNqZTWCFinEiiyM1h+EJOVj1r4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:57:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V11 #175 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4b5e37160049bf6582c Resent-Message-ID: <3LF8KD.A.4sF.3tHVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:57:43 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4b5e37160049bf6582c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear T-Bone proposer. I cannot allow you to de-coolify the ultimate coolness of our shared name by changing your name. um. actually, this is a classical Todd Reynolds brain-fart. I saw Bill's name instead of Loopers Delight, and thought that he'd replied to me off-list erroneously... hit reply, hit send, all too quickly. mortified. well, maybe not as I'm among friends, I hope. The non-Matthewsed Todd On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > You've been around these parts much longer than me Mr. Reynolds so maybe = I > should change my LD name to T-Bone to reduce confusion. > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:25 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > > lol. wrong todd this time Bill... but I had read the post, though! > > > > cheers, > > > > t. > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a4b5e37160049bf6582c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear T-Bone proposer. =A0I cannot allow you to de-coolify the ultimate cool= ness of our shared name by changing your name. =A0

um. = =A0actually, =A0this is a classical Todd Reynolds brain-fart. =A0I saw Bill= 's name instead of Loopers Delight, and thought that he'd replied t= o me off-list erroneously... hit reply, hit send, all too quickly.=A0

mortified. =A0well, maybe not as I'm among friends, I ho= pe.=A0

The non-Matthewsed Todd



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:51 PM, T= odd Matthews <= gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
You've been around these parts much lon= ger than me Mr. Reynolds so maybe I should change my LD name to T-Bone to r= educe confusion.

On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:25 PM, todd reynolds wrote:

> lol. =A0wrong todd this time Bill... =A0but I had read the post, thoug= h!
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> cheers,
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--20cf3054a4b5e37160049bf6582c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 00:11:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED40E183460; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <4D5447A4.3080003@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D5447A4.3080003@cruzio.com> thread-topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! thread-index: AcvJgCfuNO2fW5VvSD2Y//K0bOkb3A== Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:10:05 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2011 00:11:45.0141 (UTC) FILETIME=[44707A50:01CBC980] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Line six has an app that goes wuth their iphone midi device that has midi in= and out.=20 On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Has this been mentioned yet? >=20 > BeatMaker2 for the iPhone >=20 > amongst many other things, it has a pretty cool MPC styled > drum/sample manipulation portion of the program which allows you to > create and break down a live loop into individual sounds (think separating= all the > sounds in a breakbeat) for remanipulation. >=20 > No Midi out, but this is a pretty hip tiny drum machine that also has > loop manipulation and synths added. >=20 > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/the-handheld-studio-evolves-beatmake= r-2-developers-explain-their-iphone-workflow/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_me= dium=3Dfeed&utm_campaign=3DFeed:+createdigitalmusic+(createdigitalmusic.com)= >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 00:17:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 804A0183456; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: Soft Step real feedback please thread-index: AcvJgPxN8ep67GrFTKiUup77+bcuKQ== Message-ID: <8A654EAA-D5E8-4992-9A5B-1A82651F404C@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:16:23 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2011 00:17:52.0879 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FA0D7F0:01CBC981] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:17:55 +0000 (UTC) How very Jackson Pollack of you my good man. Andy On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:14 PM, "^|>^m" wrote: > I've been filling my mouth with marbles and letting one fall out of my mou= th onto the keypad. I try to keep the song short enough to where I don't lo= ose all my marbles before the end of the song. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 00:46:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BBB818347A; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IR/cWoaQTO9AwAwa5i8RUAcL4S4SdXLEfnWJbNMsrSI=; b=HbS5Ecl7fX63sAnghj81pseXoUbJfNK/ilXvE+h6B8VZBjX5ofrbn1dHHvFg4ZKnmX 3y6ZklyEbBiHWmLJ5dA9VuPlR1fgRcyL8yKnYc9y20vskqMKNk4k5jAdemck+5W4rA/O Fw2hwPWiOQWrlgwRE2kDNntZ7P1xuU8f42T5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MdqDNZMa8WcdKTuMnKZitOT1QPoRaNzWQA1H0ASOQKqr89zwHQ74lu1KC2xEupU6Ah JTuPlTJJMfTOa1ubQRjvp73xkJuqcOCJ0TXqZ/asj18SgNzNLvsGUK4C6JAkddBaiOXr dTBU4OFvQkwWriz+9YJV7JghzjupW67+pko8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A654EAA-D5E8-4992-9A5B-1A82651F404C@1800dialword.com> References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> <8A654EAA-D5E8-4992-9A5B-1A82651F404C@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:46:22 +0000 (UTC) juggling might also be an option http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DK23mC4mpobg&feature=3Drelated On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > How very Jackson Pollack of you my good man. Andy > > > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 6:14 PM, "^|>^m" wrote: > >> I've been filling my mouth with marbles and letting one fall out of my m= outh onto the keypad. =A0I try to keep the song short enough to where I don= 't loose all my marbles before the end of the song. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 00:49:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8C90183478; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tmXY51Vm0byN/eXHWaJ9948cbtiB4EdD9qGK/ySjcPs=; b=JZuOF3DlcSHm/sjXSDBwZSXt/0BJq615IdmMXWNzlptE/HhwduaSWaFo1bSjFNwFoX ktinbvo/mc9G+8C3u/rMXP7tJHuxzLXjhAeKKFzyW2hMf4gHMPk24Ep0N1PbHkVthIiI W7VroyADvgFV70Tbci26VOxD23jeP6p1hlPQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I30wAaPBl0Y3sY0w5ZGCPvKAqLoEZx/4AzrE2ZW+a9L7+ptxDWdjDXA/Ohxuhl6+LG LuUBHVHjgkQH+Fg8pSBKrNmPdLU4ZrC064RXsBqRmBp5yv9bcFaqv0JVP+G8AtA5wMrD F9Y+32rxIUchHBLvHH/3go/UKk8kcIlXop8fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:49:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:49:22 +0000 (UTC) the honest truth,right now it sucks if u want to go gig with it live dont spent over 300.00dlls on a buggy midi pedal unless you wanna be a free beta tester i had it with it,for almost a month i kept close contact with Sarah and i did evetually got mobius to work with it but very flaky the whole "do it all with one pad" is too much of a hype,so many things can go wrong if u step on it wrong you would have to probably do it al bare foot im not talking stand alone though,that might be better now im sure it will work some day is your choice bro Luis On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:41 PM, William Walker wro= te: > =A0The answers I've been getting are about as coy as a pond of ornamental > fish, to wit: > Features aside, just try "steppin=B4" on one first Bill, you may not > like it, or was that sarcasm? > and > I prefer to play bass sitting but I've been playing standing with the > softstep because I have a much easier time mashing down the keys on the > softstep. Just thought I'd throw that out there as you contemplate your > purchase. > Come on folks, even if you have to spill your beans to me off list, someo= ne > please give some real world answers =A0to my real world questions. =A0Is = it the > learning curve or the latency, or the friggin shag carpet you happen to m= e > putting your Soft step on, or the fact its a bit to small and thin to use > with your favorite combat boots? it seems to me it would be best mounted = on > an angled pedal board to make the back tier more accessable. I would real= ly > appreciate more detail about this. > =A0Thanks > =A0Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 00:57:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEE6F18348A; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) References: <4D5447A4.3080003@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D5447A4.3080003@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thread-topic: Missing Link thread-index: AcvJhoTYDe/GqiHSTbaEBOMnnRdo9g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <41003454-1120-4DFB-A662-3529C4FBF00F@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Subject: Missing Link Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:55:45 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2011 00:57:12.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E3FE7E0:01CBC986] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Rick Is the Missing Link something on the order of the Line 6 unit? http://line6.com/midimobilizer/ Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 01:18:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B835183477; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=K+Xp4qglxVf57ecyV6e+t2+UXf34a0fFHLQHKXPHkFY=; b=xqTt3RIF2MqWGGP4ntt+kUfBsxFH3YS7nHwKc88AIW3DvLb59czgFKT574T9d7x1o1 tTKRjxXZHhz43/j0BTRvIVFR/8SYK1hMd9YE6mUr3RXF+vEuJzsUeSjV4Yq+hOBWw2Aq WkL18jsfxCZZgpdDpQqs+E3c0w8BHFbLdtJLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=LVu1gmSQV9TaaWY9u8f7NzJGffaCVI+EOkpKWYKSzpREbDf3/aG/XZfRD9cHA5c2z3 CAI6xcsAF6RTknSC61+olopg/nMABrhGUfRcVoVTcletPDiq35/RmkBlYWalxJXcqrfi T50Nxpdl9QHK6TdEr6v3QwyPdFntXG1O2XxSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110210190239.DF0C818344B@arsenic.violacea.com> <21678F68-E2C7-4B8C-8745-17C5ED356309@baymoon.com> From: Todd Matthews Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:17:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V11 #175 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450165afdaaeff049bf778cf Resent-Message-ID: <9JUNMD.A.Vg.W5IVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:18:14 +0000 (UTC) --0050450165afdaaeff049bf778cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ain't no thang. -Artist formerly known as T-Bone On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:57 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > > um. actually, this is a classical Todd Reynolds brain-fart. I saw Bill's > name instead of Loopers Delight, and thought that he'd replied to me > off-list erroneously... hit reply, hit send, all too quickly. > --0050450165afdaaeff049bf778cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ain't no thang.

-Artist formerly known as T-Bone

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:57 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

um. =A0a= ctually, =A0this is a classical Todd Reynolds brain-fart. =A0I saw Bill'= ;s name instead of Loopers Delight, and thought that he'd replied to me= off-list erroneously... hit reply, hit send, all too quickly.=A0

--0050450165afdaaeff049bf778cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 01:23:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E509183478; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4FcGL9szrk+8VAgJ9YbJSl1xtPAeAegmpu9quHAjgRw=; b=UvLT7rRomuev/WUNsnfxeaULKBiuE5RTWiQU45g09DrF0oBajkRs1CqBKAAJt+xdUm QvEL6KqvR7xJPZbl1J7c+Nw95nv4GL8gMLqr5Nx5SdAQy6S5aRlTT9nar0D1XNkSNptm Pv6RoRkDPcOI3s7c1zt5F1jCwt0/NgclbAOz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=ay0QLy+yBHS2vnQWL182kkhEFPn5okxoNkOEFj7QgoGgPwg6X77od4yQsAw1AJj6IH a6v6uyGgRqRuPGFPfFvCJSq1a3cvOibEdeFFqmNkfXTDjGhqi6+Yx2MeVMPH3NQ3XgbB moHQoqLCn0mJee9IyRs26tiDHXBTypEsrRxw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A6278B8-9B82-4AEE-A2A8-253BDD6BA5F7@gmail.com> References: <9A2CC1C1-C847-41DF-B5AD-CF782F072F3E@1800dialword.com> <8A6278B8-9B82-4AEE-A2A8-253BDD6BA5F7@gmail.com> From: Todd Matthews Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:22:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Bjork cover - modified bowed instrument To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8370182b70049bf78bdb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:23:21 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8370182b70049bf78bdb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How the.....What the.... Woah. Mind blown. Rebooting. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, RP Collier wrote: > Another bowed Bjork cover - desired constellation > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DABglr34YJM > > Mechanical drones and a pedal resembling the fcb that mechanically plays > strings. > > Analog heaven. > > regards > > BobC > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego > --90e6ba6e8370182b70049bf78bdb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How the.....What the.... Woah. Mind blown. Rebooting.

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM, RP Collier = <skeptikalist@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Another bowed =A0Bjork cover - desired constellat= ion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDABglr34YJM

Mechanical drones and a pedal resembling the fcb th= at mechanically plays strings.

Analog heaven.

regards

BobC



--90e6ba6e8370182b70049bf78bdb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 05:03:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C76E0183462; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GJYNW9wC1qw08lah/M6tNr0w0zYmRpgBzpO6YV1++CM=; b=gYAaq7b+MBN+H+ZxnT0KAdUb6ZUtZKyPUoZ+GVfutcVfLHy5O7Y0VuREAz5syVUaBT YnmeOIGh8D6jyflOJ+bRyDUrY7n14hUkFn1fbZeP3/SBR3/rbPvsqEh9zExZENKBuEBB 2UOlkPEOT5TlndsJona3pOEL4I3llbqFvFurk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GE6GwDalnAj6XToSKYbbUWJ/5yEmEF25jiDvv4WOevAmfnW3dNkUcy/grggfGgxDD1 qOn677We3IZEjuS7M8jxdzd6LnqvtOEPIvQYW7M2B5b/u7tDPJbeeyu+Ccs12fIpgVsD K3b5DvOOmbVuU4a1Q9k6b0+1ebMMfSAyPUfbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <480E5D2F-11A7-480C-8F16-0DE9EF082EAE@gmail.com> <8CD91EE0657A2D7-1BC4-1F01D@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> <4D4B1A36.3050209@googlemail.com> <4D4B3DEB.40202@googlemail.com> <4D4C2603.8060406@tiscali.co.uk> <183469.27151.qm@web59708.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20110209122940.26990@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: inexpensive synth From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:03:39 +0000 (UTC) mbv rules. - jim On Wednesday, February 9, 2011, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> If you want uncompromising sound, get your favorite analog synth. >> For "aggressive, gritty", why not simply a Virus? > > > Well quite, since there is a Virus out there, why bother making > another synth ever again!!! I mean, nothing can ever be different or > better, its just not possible is it, just like music really, its all > been done before hasn't it? > > > FYI, that 2 minutes video sounds nothing like a virus! OK, a few seconds do... > > >>If you're looking for an inexpensive solution, get a usb keyboard with decent action and some synth so... > > What a boring world we live in... thats the solution for everything really. > > Yesterday I was watching TV and saw a car advert that had the "James > Bond - Man with the golden gun" stunt in it... I remember when that > film came out, there was a cool buzz at school about how the guy that > did it had got paid 1,000,000 dollars, and that it had all been > calculated precisely, and when the stunt happened in the film, there > was a cheer in the cinema I went to... Yesterday the stunt was (no > doubt) performed by a computer... Yawn... Next... a 3D animated > dancing tea-bag, Next, a talking cockroach! > > Can't we have something real occasionally? and leave the computer for > stuff that NOTHING else can do? > > ...and many MANY pro keyboardists would not risk a laptop, and > software on a tour. I remember My Bloody Valentine huddled around a > sampler in a rack with the manual open, scratching their heads and > that was a hardware sampler!!! With all the headaches that come with > hard-drives, drivers, usb cables, and software just not working, its > gonna be along time before that solution really is viable. > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 08:27:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F4D183465; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hMP++bOQ87GbrV9RplKYywaC2Mt2LkWOlUPN72+7kZY=; b=fmTFc8GsFzoe/3jcjhLaqMPKENga06VPu7SJLECfRKkmo8qIy8TvrLJJuNEaI8Lfkc qGUC5a6x8t3B342Q+2aCGiSd1EJ4C7I+bMSEppafYfNHtixwor6c8ACMaMTC9zJ9ATMU bfUoC7/8jmTPIjSeo3rKqneZbU9q5of9n3N1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M2D3R7I9HwwQOYc1vzLiMZ/bL0e2taGf/yTI7SrGuEuf+yZFF61WvYXQxTxRtEyJYJ MilTZcelSiJ5MKaOx/4i3pMHMCzgZ8ye6kmHLCv5YNoUfcO3YTSKak3ujyiZ+d/h3byt oPAUcA0D+tsaAPTRn5YBg/nSeCyKeT5kM1vsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC) I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday keep up the awesome work buddy! Luis On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas wrote: >> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! >> Edward Yuhas > > Thanks Edward! > > All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived. > Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted. > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 10:48:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8BA183473; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MJCpSgdo1T1EKvlCq35jyJMNZLkZWEpzIgNAwpPdYvQ=; b=Ep9+umnfBpDRjEOiTNXlIxC6AdAG9qRp80LmFLBVhRjZ9+uakloqigjTTkEZEJr5W/ UaVqnYHNElZj+v0bSoPJPA2kYh8LFFqZDlWkWVYxojrfwxqcnTPZUmgOV1i5D1Cra2UN xvMZ/Wm2afFyFw6uLY5RnPBYEQ1VqzmZRcOf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qcCssyBf+FUCTlTsY5hfLxFO7W9AA6OoB9MfdUN7dx3UlwQ5KLt5F+mPgaRE9u+2o1 qU0z1isxnVyd57JOZL7iAWZdze8SYdg6VD/QLfuaq7xifPsT6eIx/shyGzvSbzIZx0Mj 8HrCefGErtnOUsjxGLIQ+rKFKAsxGtGu5nfXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:48:14 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to > everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday > keep up the awesome work buddy! > Luis Thanks Luis, much appreciated! When's you next release? ;-) Btw: you can already listen to 5 out 9 tracks until the release date March 01, 2011. Pre-orders include free shipping and an immediate download of the full album. http://music.premonitionfactory.com/ -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 11:26:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC29183477; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0tWk6MueN7bepuiwFVDGzHi5q98BzzPHvsKFouYasYE=; b=iQGtr7LrMN/ZoZfSBQM7oDTvS7ieazrodKLdyDJP2mo0eoe/V1AlB4KHcHvMoUS2hv QmXhNLp41Ao4Y/rjKPSJVqNRxHgnz1wtXA5iwi7F7TrpgeLMdTz8EV2yN+MwShT6uwYP sz3RzXhlKCcU3cjxTqXIxVF0O4LjfkmbpFtj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EMi23JGKm+L/AcVpb45753UQgWp/0rIGDoMrZva5IiUiZxUvAr2PKGrqewqM1Q7LdH jhlKhUNEY1UdQIuO3WDPl56H7kqkDZc4djBwCURw/W2WieHQRCMcwijY36QlY4pyoqFz oOUJnTI2T1Y5s/uT4d2zaWQpXwNn5oFX+Z3ms= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:26:50 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Ricky Graham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34c446fab81049bfff9a3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:26:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34c446fab81049bfff9a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kind words from Luis there, and rightly so. Great release, Sjaak. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to > everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday > keep up the awesome work buddy! > Luis > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas wrote: > >> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! > >> Edward Yuhas > > > > Thanks Edward! > > > > All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived. > > Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted. > > > > -- > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > > http://livelooping.be/ > > > > > > --001636d34c446fab81049bfff9a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kind words from Luis there, and rightly so. Great release, Sjaak.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo = <louie.= angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
I just want to re= comend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to
everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday
keep up the awesome work buddy!
Luis

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!!
>> Edward Yuhas
>
> Thanks Edward!
>
> All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived.
> Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted.
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://pr= emonitionfactory.com/
> http://liveloopin= g.be/
>
>


--001636d34c446fab81049bfff9a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 13:22:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A450D183478; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9kEobzKzGQPG8KPWjjw5xSF4bfCJtpK7OaemDyKUXyU=; b=lqYNP4FABUza7OAfIlNmuJf7vL9Zviu06lM/Jc8hcYwhDUpHg+I43pBtRpibz2vMw4 FxaxmA7woEHJXiNFXlNOncLjpIRc1wPOFH/3H1xuXc4Utfoanv8eFV7kfmV1c9qsg3w6 kpdZPfIHCk4DMb+gEl+Qhwqt3bGnwYj7cMe58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Svj4Q3AGotFpKQ5FRsBZuIVlYR4tpAo7xopXC3jDUuL0GQupbgwHvlot3lr0HuQDkv KLse/1+0OKrRmxKSwuOJBHCxwT+dBYxTg+ic2/EYQftzW7CSdqOML7f8YMh0pYINDbNQ rUd1In4X1o0WIV8c9uq+Td397bf7+u6/jtl4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:22:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6154b662a3dc049c0195e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:22:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6154b662a3dc049c0195e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree. And to those who haven't heard the first Premonion Factory release yet: Get it too, it's also great! Congratulations, Sjaak! 2011/2/11 Ricky Graham > Kind words from Luis there, and rightly so. Great release, Sjaak. > > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > >> I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to >> everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday >> keep up the awesome work buddy! >> Luis >> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas wrote: >> >> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! >> >> Edward Yuhas >> > >> > Thanks Edward! >> > >> > All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived. >> > Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted. >> > >> > -- >> > Sjaak Overgaauw >> > http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> > http://livelooping.be/ >> > >> > >> >> > -- -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --90e6ba6154b662a3dc049c0195e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree. And to those who haven't heard the first Premonion Factor= y release yet: Get it too, it's also great!
=A0
Congratulations, Sjaak!

2011/2/11 Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com&g= t;
Kind words from Luis there, and = rightly so. Great release, Sjaak.=20



On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
I just want to recom= end this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to
everybody, is just awesom= e,i had a listen yesterday
keep up the awesome work buddy!
Luis

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:=
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com> wrote:=
>> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!!
>> Ed= ward Yuhas
>
> Thanks Edward!
>
> All: I will ship = all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived.
> Estimated shippin= g date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted.
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
>= ; http://livelooping.b= e/
>
>





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--90e6ba6154b662a3dc049c0195e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 13:25:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC82D18347C; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:25:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8F1L9YI+2+G8kmJaZdW+2fFrkmRMzjg5DBz+5mIH4tc=; b=vky9qsijsGOJdjcO4OjIIaJJ1w2B4YRaSNWYG88AZVIk2NN7WVFQo7YCd5Aue9xvVn 6CumSoWhMD5UlRRntd9P8ut/8T8M7DWBjgDgzMOCqGQa7GANpXiYYjVP40MGgfioThas tyTjR9dopHlPZ2MDC29NzJdsRYao1JaVQMlWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=npoE4V14pIB1vN+JRLje4VR8SlTRi+rSbFLKVnPA9zvVilBQBXbGLh8nBPfGCZSVuX lpxZCORzzBS1BGNQTX+KVQzcmsWdg7OTu1zcuRdne3AILMkR0f3O5cWTgnUgVHaVt0q3 PO+oUly/sKZi4uLbGLDAejL/FTztbbn+uvoUg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5A.AC.17783.564A05D4@smtp01.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:25:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Pre-order with free digital copy and free shipping From: Johannes Korn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba5bbb61d9b77d049c01a06e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:25:16 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba5bbb61d9b77d049c01a06e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry, there were two letters missing. The music does not have anything to do with bulbous vegetables. My posting should have read: 2011/2/11 Johannes Korn > I agree. And to those who haven't heard the first *Premonition* Factory > release yet: Get it too, it's also great! > > Congratulations, Sjaak! > > 2011/2/11 Ricky Graham > > Kind words from Luis there, and rightly so. Great release, Sjaak. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo < >> louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to >>> everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday >>> keep up the awesome work buddy! >>> Luis >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw >>> wrote: >>> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas >>> wrote: >>> >> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!! >>> >> Edward Yuhas >>> > >>> > Thanks Edward! >>> > >>> > All: I will ship all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived. >>> > Estimated shipping date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sjaak Overgaauw >>> > http://premonitionfactory.com/ >>> > http://livelooping.be/ >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> > > > -- > -- > jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com > www.myspace.com/nashorn > > -- jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com www.myspace.com/nashorn --90e6ba5bbb61d9b77d049c01a06e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, there were two letters missing. The music does not have anythin= g to do with bulbous vegetables.
=A0
My posting=A0should have read:
2011/2/11 Johannes Korn <jenko.nashorn@googlemail.com<= /a>>
I agree. And to those who haven't heard the first *Premonition* Fa= ctory release yet: Get it too, it's also great!
=A0
Congratulations, Sjaak!

2011/2/11 Ricky Graham <rickygrahammus= ic@gmail.com>=20

Kind words from Luis there, and = rightly so. Great release, Sjaak.=20



On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
I just want to recom= end this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to
everybody, is just awesom= e,i had a listen yesterday
keep up the awesome work buddy!
Luis

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:=
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ejyuhas <ejyuhas@embarqmail.com> wrote:=
>> Pre-ordered this today. Can't wait to hear it!!
>> Ed= ward Yuhas
>
> Thanks Edward!
>
> All: I will ship = all the pre-orders as soon as the CD has arrived.
> Estimated shippin= g date is March 1, 2011. Will keep you posted.
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
>= ; http://livelooping.b= e/
>
>





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--90e6ba5bbb61d9b77d049c01a06e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 14:52:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62B7F18347D; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297435941; bh=10tmIfnNhI4qAUraq/l2dnhLMLfTw6X57a2jo7HqhVY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ku77hULaEk2uCDgPGNy4pQXwlX8pC4QzW9fm7h5TP5TyLDng/u/1cXhM5OnHUAGhS4eUMpq5LVmqej3enWfAzVIFLBe25zvewf1i7jMkqYe4yRsawovNQGyYfWE6ns7WIS+P15wOpBRqbEnstawgA+lg2rYh0fG7pbUSaF0Mca0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3zBUNSpw5JQtnpR+R+s/3P4nCM58D8L0SiQQYs7jrRBEdezPbF0X5fm3LWvcgULUvTkATc8Gjg4hBHRibgq4vUX7oYlG3fx/ohQm3rk4QMaXilRhlwGAI3TbKjYSBLKCA8GDvmVO0LkmcN1wpfMcNUz9zIJPu1jNBl2J9TSKllk=; Message-ID: <556810.60199.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BBlIig8VM1nhm9g2Q1HVbbcwXX5uf2wAdmc7hx1saQO1D7q uHd9.YtY5YBFx6I211RMMobLCHoJaG7PWi3S3An7RbDhlc9y0KxwHLqocjbc 9YY.V0cSbyYCNgJYKNvY3U9wzvzlLkGfi1HJqxCgc6K0v2BtzF4U1htCi4SJ Yip6aIlRa9vCSyLxY4RYvQYs.Xr.EBZHfkkUTEdDHZCw526.Tl3Y99vacHMh gUlYIhfALkKmcM.rqxV3EvWXEq0pScsmay_UBj.hMBavCPLwJCPFIooJCH8. jr5SRYDsWFAYbudB8GuaI1dIXQD2MW.dxfjaeN7pyGGzqA3ILBw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:52:21 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1463096656-1297435941=:60199" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) --0-1463096656-1297435941=:60199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out "Schlmo's" video. I don't know....the jugglers on the old Ed Sull= ivan Show and Senor Wences were interesting too. For a minute or so. =A0 http://www.bossloop.com/ --- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 2:02 PM mark- as for your midi request, i have no idea. a world i don't to this day under= stand. for small, cheap- adrenalinns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favor= ed dance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 aga= in just for the drum machine zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top multi-effects have limited drum ma= chines in them. they're ok, these usually can be gotten cheap. i would guess your best bet would be one of the=20 boss units or alessis unit as for the m-audio black box-i had one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds,= again, cool drum machine in it, but i didn't think it was too "smallish" i= t is table top, but it's=20 quite thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of l= ine 6 pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than p= od)-i guess you can judge=20 if that seems too big for you. (ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option) i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to be = a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you al= l the data you need about it. happy search! s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________________________________= ______________________=0AIt's here! Your new message! =0AGet new email ale= rts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.=0Ahttp://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/f= eatures/mail/ --0-1463096656-1297435941=:60199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check out "Schlmo's" video. I don't know= ....the jugglers on the old Ed Sullivan Show and Senor Wences were interest= ing too. For a minute or so.
 
http://www.bossloop.com/
<= BR>--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>= wrote:

From: Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com>Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER!
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 2:02 PM=

mark-
as for your midi request, i have no idea. = a world i don't to this day understand.

for small, cheap-
adrenal= inns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favored = dance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 ag= ain just for the drum machine
zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top m= ulti-effects have limited drum machines in them. they're ok, these usually = can be gotten cheap.

i would guess your best bet would be one of the=
boss units or
alessis unit

as for the m-audio black box-i ha= d one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds, again, cool drum machine in it, = but i didn't think it was too "smallish" it is table top, but it's
quit= e thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of line = 6 pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than pod)-= i guess you can judge
if that seems too big for you.

(ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option)
i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to b= e a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you = all the data you need about it.
happy search!
s---
www.myspace.= com/scotthansen

=0A=0A
Don't pick lemons.
=0ASee all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. --0-1463096656-1297435941=:60199-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 15:38:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA623183481; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <556810.60199.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--843657118"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <556810.60199.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvKAaIF6oyRcnPkTLCJ0YIc0DNugQ== Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:36:45 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2011 15:38:31.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC9524A0:01CBCA01] Resent-Message-ID: <2iGXJB.A.GEC.5fVVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/106999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:38:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--843657118 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Man I saw shlomo win the looping contest at namm. Considering just a mic and= stock rc50 live it was pretty amazing.=20 Dubfx was a judge and did one song, was truly truly amazing, even tho 'oral l= ooping' not really my bag.=20 There was a euro guy, violinist, competing, very very nice. Then a japanese g= irl "i am japanese singah songwritah" that was great too. Then this irish ch= ick was singing looping, amazing, the usa guy used a big setup, played live d= rums, bass guitar, telephone good too, but shlomo stole the show. Nice guy t= oo, we saw him next day at namm, got some pics.=20 Then there was another oral looper that used like five mics(for show) he had= a few glitches and wasnt the greatest but he did make world finals.=20 Remember this contest sponsored by boss for rc50 users only.=20 Andy o On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, "Paul Richards" w= rote: > Check out "Schlmo's" video. I don't know....the jugglers on the old Ed Sul= livan Show and Senor Wences were interesting too. For a minute or so. > =20 > http://www.bossloop.com/ >=20 > --- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen wrote: >=20 > From: Scott Hansen > Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 2:02 PM >=20 > mark- > as for your midi request, i have no idea. a world i don't to this day unde= rstand. >=20 > for small, cheap- > adrenalinns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favo= red dance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 aga= in just for the drum machine > zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top multi-effects have limited drum m= achines in them. they're ok, these usually can be gotten cheap. >=20 > i would guess your best bet would be one of the=20 > boss units or > alessis unit >=20 > as for the m-audio black box-i had one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds= , again, cool drum machine in it, but i didn't think it was too "smallish" i= t is table top, but it's=20 > quite thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of l= ine 6 pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than po= d)-i guess you can judge=20 > if that seems too big for you. >=20 > (ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option)= >=20 > i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to be= a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you al= l the data you need about it. > happy search! > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen >=20 > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 566 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:47:54 UTC X-Trace: 292902728/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMCAPL0VE0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMl0q9Lox/hV0Ei3yDJg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,455,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="292902728" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:37:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: vid of a recent gig Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D5565D4.21250.1868E8B@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII 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(VPS 110211-0, 11/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:47:55 +0000 (UTC) The second piece of the evening, upbeat and danceable as ever. Totally improv, featuring the debut of my EDP! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zWSorBx9SQ All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 17:02:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3399D183485; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c05YyYLjAW4N646LQrguIjIayLN/PIj3HGiiXV+ybBg=; b=Se/xNYdvxrxQ4gedCHl2mncLDPWvJmA2skoIEQNvSfY9KfNuSCqdqYne8KzgIzM0Ru DWlkf2y5OrdB7f71yj2G61Lc7DeR2aN0WF2WUHoZAUuDaaP/vKO28IooWJDxyrmnAYCk qAxrSZLDj15fkmMboaG/+XgPyDgduy85pxi1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l3mXV478QSgKX+ozZVN9U7dcQhZPOkzJdOCbOlBa7kCOl/PTIaPvBugC4yOcSoZfeE QKF0kpXEYIynTCVQrngeAhASbm6t2LaSBdCIkPeXLfTFXI4iSHYiNpakTo1ea0F4RRKO wkjxXUs99muZI2SXwjnDHdHSOiZRLCC0Xhnyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:02:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:02:56 +0000 (UTC) right on baby! my next release,wow good question;-) i will be recording a new CD with my latin band soon,there has been many requests when we play live and is time to record a new one and after that ill concentrate on this stuff,but maybe we can colaborate in between brosky! cheers Luis On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> I just want to recomend this new release from my dear bro Sjaak to >> everybody, is just awesome,i had a listen yesterday >> keep up the awesome work buddy! >> Luis > > Thanks Luis, much appreciated! When's you next release? ;-) > > Btw: you can already listen to 5 out 9 tracks until the release date > March 01, 2011. Pre-orders include free shipping and an immediate > download of the full album. > http://music.premonitionfactory.com/ > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 17:07:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01CE183482; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297444020; bh=Tw96vNqHJq4RQnLCAguuV9PCiM8hlegbcN0MbzLX9mQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xQHxldOkiqaLit6JmRgS1G+fTANZryDdDAUKNldl3y1S8Dg1d42Swy7JcZfi9CpdFcUw3PolZLWCd+Wq9gfnt6R+AfC2YVxZQjrbHSeyhjDElVTY30X1rHgOQxVUa1fOxGs2DHemJ6fWoriaIZVignzBm+/XbQYT4/OTft70wBY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TYZyR8cxyO0CKYPXRhy26z3KMV3WBWtiiW3DEE77FxcQOWFhczdX2NBG/JOK2THFm5eMbfqq70Qk4chrxtBs7RbzhGJXf8v3Y6T8ilANNhHwoQqauFbT3znny83KEyYDlqL+HLRDpS3KzlWYFAcbf6MhSuwoP+pe///BGPZget0=; Message-ID: <765282.64241.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KyZFPIMVM1l8Nx_gjlRv_O3v1fkLhfNuesPnn2jR6WUkVQB tmuy43R7EFutv6k_qvC_PcO3Q4zcSUw4jDNGB1L0j2l7e_st.wag6UWTa2sT ICGOT6QbKVoOZlEwy387y9dW3juoFwbdMqZ_iS6puhg38Ik4V0p6baQgqQwv AMlw4.seQ_rw8Z98xxXmd7NjzHoFSTNgi2DiEoGn6_xks8X35kmhMcXuOhe. W79uDe.vk0uRdtjDUaQxQjJhMfwEWJeKvBnbhkGpHFWbKinxJJIyFcqihlks wKhmd7.Bg8X5gtVFyeUb6fUP3dnA.QBXjhCWFnKYDzru9Q8HcQg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:07:00 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-215428603-1297444020=:64241" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:07:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-215428603-1297444020=:64241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Justin Biebers new film is getting the same kind of accolades. Just= sayin'. --- On Fri, 2/11/11, Andy Owens wrote: From: Andy Owens Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:36 AM Man I saw shlomo win the looping contest at namm. Considering just a mic an= d stock rc50 live it was pretty amazing.=A0 Dubfx was a judge and did one song, was truly truly amazing, even tho 'oral= looping' not really my bag.=A0 There was a euro guy, violinist, competing, very very nice. Then a japanese= girl "i am japanese singah songwritah" that was great too. Then this irish= chick was singing looping, amazing, the usa guy used a big setup, played l= ive drums, bass guitar, telephone good too, but shlomo stole the show. Nice= guy too, we saw him next day at namm, got some pics.=A0 Then there was another oral looper that used like five mics(for show) he ha= d a few glitches and wasnt the greatest but he did make world finals.=A0 Remember this contest sponsored by boss for rc50 users only.=A0 Andy o On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, "Paul Richards" = wrote: Check out "Schlmo's" video. I don't know....the jugglers on the old Ed Sull= ivan Show and Senor Wences were interesting too. For a minute or so. =A0 http://www.bossloop.com/ --- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen wrote: From: Scott Hansen Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 2:02 PM mark- as for your midi request, i have no idea. a world i don't to this day under= stand. for small, cheap- adrenalinns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favor= ed dance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 aga= in just for the drum machine zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top multi-effects have limited drum ma= chines in them. they're ok, these usually can be gotten cheap. i would guess your best bet would be one of the=20 boss units or alessis unit as for the m-audio black box-i had one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds,= again, cool drum machine in it, but i didn't think it was too "smallish" i= t is table top, but it's=20 quite thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of l= ine 6 pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than p= od)-i guess you can judge=20 if that seems too big for you. (ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option) i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to be = a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you al= l the data you need about it. happy search! s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.=0A=0A=0A --0-215428603-1297444020=:64241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think Justin Biebers new film is getting th= e same kind of accolades. Just sayin'.

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Andy = Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 10:36 AM

Man I saw shlomo win the looping contest at namm. Considering just a m= ic and stock rc50 live it was pretty amazing. 

Dubfx was a judge and did one song, was truly truly amazing, even tho = 'oral looping' not really my bag. 

There was a euro guy, violinist, competing, very very nice. Then a jap= anese girl "i am japanese singah songwritah" that was great too. Then this = irish chick was singing looping, amazing, the usa guy used a big setup, pla= yed live drums, bass guitar, telephone good too, but shlomo stole the show.= Nice guy too, we saw him next day at namm, got some pics. 

Then there was another oral looper that used like five mics(for show) = he had a few glitches and wasnt the greatest but he did make world finals.&= nbsp;

Remember this contest sponsored by boss for rc50 users only. 

Andy o



On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, "Paul Richards" <= paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

Check out "Schlmo's" video. I don't know....the jugglers on the old Ed= Sullivan Show and Senor Wences were interesting too. For a minute or so.
 
http://ww= w.bossloop.com/

--- On Thu, 2/10/11, Scott Hansen <= evanpeewee@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Scott Hansen <evanpeewee@gmail.com&= gt;
Subject: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER!
To: <= A href=3D"http://us.mc367.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DLoopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 2:02 PM=

mark-
as for your midi request, i have no idea. a= world i don't to this day understand.

for small, cheap-
adrenali= nns-i had a II, & thought the drum machine was awesome in it (favored d= ance/groove stuff), & it's smallish, i almost think about getting 1 aga= in just for the drum machine
zoom g2 / digitech rp150 small table top mu= lti-effects have limited drum machines in them. they're ok, these usually c= an be gotten cheap.

i would guess your best bet would be one of the =
boss units or
alessis unit

as for the m-audio black box-i had= one, briefly a few yrs ago, good sounds, again, cool drum machine in it, b= ut i didn't think it was too "smallish" it is table top, but it's
quite= thick (i thought). feel wise it seems to remind me a bit of size of line 6= pod bean thing (maybe ht/width smaller, but depth-much thicker than pod)-i= guess you can judge
if that seems too big for you.

(ps-i don't think the above things i mentioned will fill your midi option)
i just did an ebay search for "drum machine" pop in cheapest, seemed to b= e a bunch of funky things that come up, good luck if descriptions give you = all the data you need about it.
happy search!
s---
www.myspa= ce.com/scotthansen
=
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! A= utos.

=0A=0A= --0-215428603-1297444020=:64241-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 17:09:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E57183487; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EXBjqh+ry4c8UNpy6LckCtIhJwJvADYxypvIROpV9Nk=; b=DeahNANxj1G62LUmlVlurH6NJYKvyUusiud8q1oxhgHZWO9uLZa22RQu8JvOwmAKLm JLRXhyZRnNJtsWD815Z/H/iqhB2mAX4ORAuIW9w0b1er2Rt4VLh/10YIeV/D43grnPBk baKv0zN9wE7slriO/MjG/KvS5V91bQahSlvGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t9wSpDVrBUXoKbqWzaKzHp3ZpQ1pFfNCchluH4Ov+8ki0UTypRR001FHYRMXR0fTx2 moM3w61Oz4HrYnGFq0R6iJikvhohIDmcoXGKcwNEsZYVFYA2yVglX2CNxeBGrna2OYH8 CgV252qXyrYMbKIOURvHaUm3+TgndMTM+ayFU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:08:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > right on baby! > my next release,wow good question;-) You're too good not to release a new solo album, that's a waste of talent ;-) Remember, your CD's were sold out in less than 1 minute at the Antwerp Loopfest last year! Could be a nice combination, dreamy ambient with acoustic guitar? -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 17:35:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC34B18347D; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xnWiaiRq2605svu/qGlTOePQNXw/W/4pe4kXpY6OIfI=; b=rY8/cLs4fqlXBsHFEimEdsFX+cEmhM8GbqIVvYvwV7P3MtFI0g9b7xix8g+yEFnNGO pTM5S/U3phRrSEUZpY0LzcTbWcFupFABLVnyTqzmG3exyIbsDQgEccIA+8/bCgZboMkP wo7waOw4wN2qTOkyPEJOELQRGGd9g7bPritug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E+dt/cogQ22B5MbFZilnU4ZbIkhh7WKVB/nQcuaXAXpM54pQSDLNYusVjDGhoQwUv3 4XWi4BkcgvUuhrYpAdqWlWMvg70uRSlNrCIQpBCYbV3dzKYuKTYueA5TZKGih1TWmSjr R7AwINAZvl/0kY+u/b+nPUb3pf+j7IO78u51U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT - Premonition Factory - The Sense Of Time [new release] From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:35:06 +0000 (UTC) thanx man,yes acoustic guitar and those soundscapes and some killer goroves uff man lets do it! ive also been thinking about releasing an all vocal looping CD from ideas i have recorded with mobius in the last year or so,i think ill start going through them and see what i can do with that. cheers Luis On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> right on baby! >> my next release,wow good question;-) > > You're too good not to release a new solo album, that's a waste of > talent ;-) Remember, your CD's were sold out in less than 1 minute at > the Antwerp Loopfest last year! Could be a nice combination, dreamy > ambient with acoustic guitar? > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 18:13:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7E8183475; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <765282.64241.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <765282.64241.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <37813652-E4D4-447E-BC00-435838DD6C70@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvKF1jYiKoFjrrURAau+k+fHeDUBQ== Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:12:06 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Feb 2011 18:13:21.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DC5BE10:01CBCA17] Resent-Message-ID: <6BwMHD.A.npF.CxXVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Maybe shlomo IS Justin Bieber?? Shlomo still amazing. About 50 people thought my son Cameron was Bieber at n= amm. He finally just started saying yes and signed a bunch of autographs, bu= t he signed Cameron Owens!! On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:07 PM, "Paul Richards" w= rote: > I think Justin Biebers new film is getting the same kind of accolades. Jus= t sayin'. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 18:30:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9405183478; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=w070/8PmwepWCwD0ABAKCtmR0vF/r0ui5fLfZddwEtY=; b=cvEdMWRkfyuYRF73nHdkcrK5t9WCWn6Ujxp0jVcOIxkn3QVoKepkU6qWuTElqOXN1J SkYqJC5NCbIflL5lGIH7Y0QIvKGxxQEQ4k/aJ/xWjxmtOBXXsLqP99CKJsUWihgjuWzl l6ASxm+TTPJ0RoZRK0RthJ6ocK+koekg0PweQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Yq47QljWjcoJo9EW/ysesvXvkGBumVFaOHFEiOXiXXQ2Nryug3U1EH3cEGtMrQSxVY 5Zi4cLPRIh7xNypv1NbRhkFH9riXDM73Yq5CTnv5x+fosm4rd2NIRDuBzKuhNpH3Pg8Z UsXLSZshexuUF/TYVRtTDLGBBE+OGIyfK4HOw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <37813652-E4D4-447E-BC00-435838DD6C70@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:30:36 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <765282.64241.qm@web36704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <37813652-E4D4-447E-BC00-435838DD6C70@1800dialword.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:30:40 +0000 (UTC) I've been sick the past couple days. The symptoms seem to suggest it's a = case of Bieber fever. On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Maybe shlomo IS Justin Bieber?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 20:05:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C048A183473; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D55969C.6000101@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:05:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #723 for February 10, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:05:54 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110210.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #723 February 10, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Underneath the Night Sky" onGroove Unlimited. Nattefrost: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) vidnaObmana Charm Mystique Chasing the Odyssee(Tonefloat) The Glimmer Room 1863 A Diary of Occurrences (A-Frame Media) Dead Beat Project Awakening R'Evolution (A.D. Music) Dead Beat Project Lucid Dream R'Evolution (A.D. Music) Dead Beat Project To the Rhythms of R'Evolution (A.D. Music) the Moons Dead Beat Project Checkmate R'Evolution (A.D. Music) Amient Fabric Empty Darkness In Space (Auraltone) Chuck Van Zyl Stories In Stone MemorySpace (Synkronos) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nattefrost Translogical Underneath the Night Sky Movements (Groove) Nattefrost Searching for a Underneath the Night Sky Distant Planet (Groove) Nattefrost Underneath the Underneath the Night Sky Night Sky (Groove) Nattefrost Observing Emotions Underneath the Night Sky (Groove) Nattefrost Winterland Underneath the Night Sky (Groove) Nattefrost A Different View Underneath the Night Sky On Jupiter (Groove) Nattefrost The Pleasure of Underneath the Night Sky Tranquility (Groove) Nattefrost The Magic of Underneath the Night Sky Forgotten Times (Groove) Nattefrost Intergalactic Underneath the Night Sky Journey (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Transformation" on Groove Unlimited. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 21:55:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1CCC183473; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:55:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1TU77Cy9pwn6jL3YJUeDNetih5cuevC/58ZPtnEpIq8=; b=KGbTHvuTj6xT9hzX5yHkrcM/Pv5R4r5aAZqx+81DxS4cjp37b8yzda9LJWbg6FLW/s vSZ+iFtlOoZP8eVMZy+trHhnJcWyIiUkCEKyvdITb/K/8ficWc1Sz6SQmx9+n4YHDtT4 ezwLC/mSEv6QEfceiipBctHeEd+NJP14+MK50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tR/hiWbBm3nPWaoS80ToEBbNjvOSduP912turvG5Ajk3kARbvg+Pa5VOfU/k3PEPDU 5qpcfAW1EkPXmOfzCxNT4SI8rs2MYZW0KgedvOs7YD99HuXHQVjyAyxf6MbKCOC8guR/ c+nk+D8P0X5K5XsPoRvRWZdyfPpfzqXXsQ+ks= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a549bc0bf5049c08c1d2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:55:33 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a549bc0bf5049c08c1d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, already made the deal! I'm using it solely for Soundplant39, so it's got Tiger but it's fine. Had a gig with it today and it performed like a dream! :-) -Petri- 2011/2/11 Dennis Moser > Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5, > i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's > still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the > pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it's > still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to > make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive). > > Good luck! > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > Thanks Sylvain! > > > > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 euros. > > > > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today = not a dime > > > > :-D > > > > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras > >> > >> hi, > >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. This is based > >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. > >> > >> http://worthmonkey.com/ > >> > >> Sylvain > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen > >> wrote: > >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it as > >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. > >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory, > >> > graphic > >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. > >> > > >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer? > >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, so > I > >> > know > >> > you know is this worth any money or not. > >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) > >> > > >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Petri Lahtinen > >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > >> > Fripp- > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." > >> > -Charles Bukowski- > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > > -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a549bc0bf5049c08c1d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, already made the deal!

I'm using it solely for Soundplan= t39, so it's got Tiger but it's fine.

Had a gig with it toda= y and it performed like a dream! :-)


-Petri-

2011/2/11 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5,
i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's
still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the
pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it's<= br> still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to
make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive).

Good luck!

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sylvain!
>
> I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100= euros.
>
> What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D not a dim= e
>
> :-D
>
> 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
>>
>> hi,
>> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is= based
>> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and eb= ay.
>>
>> http://worth= monkey.com/
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed = to use it as
>> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs.
>> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor,= 768 MB memory,
>> > graphic
>> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM= .
>> >
>> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old co= mputer?
>> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this = list, so I
>> > know
>> > you know is this worth any money or not.
>> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like th= at.)
>> >
>> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> > ht= tp://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
>> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
>> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
>> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice= ." -Robert
>> > Fripp-
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives t= hey must lead."
>> > -Charles Bukowski-
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
> http:= //petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http= ://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
> http://= twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http:= //petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -= Robert Fripp-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a549bc0bf5049c08c1d2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 22:30:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8EBE183465; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=yYmqT2VjpX2DLuG5f09WlQoh3uB+wOyUYjoFzASRYLs=; b=dzbrQm4dBm1OGpo5mcVn6RnIm/a8IU7nHkkRueRVICxOgPJ35jqkEFNh/DxTFGi9hj kXHZONE0pJ8bfE3tXtLBiL6JWxe2LxUW0mcjIJaD9bhJmurBZMLmrZZ+g7XTBX25A1Yv 5vOcg76qvaZ/F5JhwuU3rTG7QrhRYGE1m2DXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=uiSfQJS3y8GE2lkxkEHEIs/Bs+hVggAfVjfzh2c8lO0wt5s02drUUqHcOGrvzWp9Mk pWbgOqzEDvatk6hoX2ffxCiD//Iz15QdYlw9ADEojW+HVDDObLkUqrM/ysXJoBrHa7rr 9uwjbzEyaoXr60/UpKwWy85YJKf9i42KYe0vU= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--818579224 Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:34:44 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> Message-Id: <2276262E-3176-4D3B-A287-7177A4D803EC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:30:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--818579224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Im an avid barefooted player That and the inconsistency of results (when I first tested it---I've not = messed with it recently so it might be a little better) are my two = biggest complaints, as well as dissatisfaction with the software. I plan to get ninja shoes, but they're still shoes.=20 At least they're ninja shoes though, right? I'm not sure if the toe = split will help or hurt, but I'll find out at some point! I think the reason people's feedback has been wishy washy at times is = because most of us want it to work and like the KMI people and the damn = thing feels so close to what it should be.=20 But yes, I felt like a bata tester. So I put it to the side for a = while... I have faith, but if the reliability/consistency of response = problem turns out to be a hardware one I'll be quite upset as they've = said it wouldn't be. I've kept it on their promise that any = predictability issues can be cleared up via software/firmware updates. I = have my suspicions about that. But, in the end, even if it can't do = everything, it will do some things well and thus in conjunction with my = LG, I'm sure it will make itself useful enough. On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:06 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I never felt it needed an AUDIBLE click! But a TACTILE click, and I > had to press real hard to make it trigger, but then occasionally it > would trigger just cos I rested my foot on it. It got a little better > if I wore light thin soles, like a chinese slipper (Oh Alright then it > WAS a fucking chinese slipper) because then there was flat surface > against flat surface, but it was sad becaouse Im an avid barefooted > player, and then I had to use my big toe, and that just began to hurt. > I never had a problem with te size of the unit however, I thought, if > they had been "normal" switches it would have been quite fine! >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no >=20 --Apple-Mail-1--818579224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I = never felt it needed an AUDIBLE click! But a TACTILE click, and I
had = to press real hard to make it trigger, but then occasionally it
would = trigger just cos I rested my foot on it. It got a little better
if I = wore light thin soles, like a chinese slipper (Oh Alright then it
WAS = a fucking chinese slipper) because then there was flat = surface
against flat surface, but it was sad becaouse Im an avid = barefooted
player, and then I had to use my big toe, and that just = began to hurt.
I never had a problem with te size of the unit = however, I thought, if
they had been "normal" switches it would have = been quite fine!


--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ord= oabkhao.com
twitter = @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

= --Apple-Mail-1--818579224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 11 23:58:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF4EC183460; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:58:04 -0800 References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Gotta go with your assessment on this one Paul, My dear friend Mando Man, the japanese mandolin player was runner up to that singer songwriter, and anyone who has had the pleasure of hearing Mandoman's unique brand of looping can attest to the fact that his thing is way more evolved and sonically adventurous than what she was doing. And then there is Randolph Arriola the brilliant guitarist from Singapore, who has great range of tone and composition as well and a true professional. Thats two people who come to mind that I know of who entered that contest. Listening briefly to the others it seems that Boss played it safe like the Super Bowl geniuses and the Grammies do and appealed to youth culture. Rappers and "Songwriters" , etc...etc...etc..what a suprise. .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss... Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 00:35:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9223C183460; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8ppRyAUctEtSNGvzhxBdW5kADtlVCsTjKxYImlGAGKA=; b=BRqfUhLrUWYpggYblpTaEIVzg3aVqGHCpx2FzEMmXn+iicPjp+9FpdWmq/e//nzQo8 7JPYABr3TWCxQC0RGU/oopl0JRUj9HFIFISrZD2KemsLokvEb6ZJI8tqXrara0fWXQdG G/rYvpsKAgrObPD1X/kcZiW/HYVgbEQkYZaZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ickryl8lGlsoGgczsVlYYurTJ99X5rc72su6MPgHN4gv8CNzIlCE30SK70z4JU8KOi 9aF5cRRRMdcdn3y8/gJ5reAdsnkgqvpDUuFegr7LHfh/x7kxdLqWb9SHMpJ4JDt57Qvf /YgxdsnHm1lqawVWm7jzzsL5/sVSjo9LS+eO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:35:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:35:49 +0000 (UTC) :D ... yeah...using it for something like that should be just fine...never hurts to max out the RAM and get a faster hard drive, but it's always amazing how much life is left in them when you make them "mono-taskers!" Have fun; Soundplant can be a hoot! Best. Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Thanks, already made the deal! > > I'm using it solely for Soundplant39, so it's got Tiger but it's fine. > > Had a gig with it today and it performed like a dream! :-) > > > -Petri- > > 2011/2/11 Dennis Moser >> >> Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5, >> i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's >> still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the >> pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it's >> still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to >> make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive). >> >> Good luck! >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen >> wrote: >> > Thanks Sylvain! >> > >> > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 >> > euros. >> > >> > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D not a dim= e >> > >> > :-D >> > >> > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras >> >> >> >> hi, >> >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is ba= sed >> >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. >> >> >> >> http://worthmonkey.com/ >> >> >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen >> >> wrote: >> >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it = as >> >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. >> >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB memory= , >> >> > graphic >> >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. >> >> > >> >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old computer= ? >> >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, = so >> >> > I >> >> > know >> >> > you know is this worth any money or not. >> >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) >> >> > >> >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Petri Lahtinen >> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> >> > Fripp- >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must >> >> > lead." >> >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Petri Lahtinen >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> > Fripp- >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.= " >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 01:55:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D050C183453; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <00083DAA-E064-4262-AC06-003CE7D9DE55@sea.plala.or.jp> From: Ed Durbrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2276262E-3176-4D3B-A287-7177A4D803EC@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--806538804 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:55:24 +0900 References: <92362D16-982C-41F7-9924-6037342AE13A@gmail.com> <2276262E-3176-4D3B-A287-7177A4D803EC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-VirusScan: Outbound; msa03b; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:55:24 +0900 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:55:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--806538804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Feb 12, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: > I plan to get ninja shoes, but they're still shoes. > > At least they're ninja shoes though, right? Probably carpenter's shoes. Most Japanese carpenters wear shoes with =20 soft rubber soles and split toes and funny pants that are baggy above =20= the knees but tight below.=E3=80=80The shoes are called tabigutsu. = http://www.google.com/images?hl=3Den&q=3Djapanese+carpenter+shoes&um=3D1&i= e=3DUTF-8&source=3Dog&sa=3DN&tab=3Dwi&biw=3D1024&bih=3D6=20 68 Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.musicianspage.com/musicians/9688/ http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ --Apple-Mail-1--806538804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Feb 12, 2011, = at 7:34 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote:
I plan to get ninja shoes, = but they're still shoes. 

At least they're = ninja shoes though, = right? 

Probably carpenter's = shoes. Most Japanese carpenters wear shoes with soft rubber soles and = split toes and funny pants that are baggy above the knees but tight = below.=E3=80=80The shoes are called tabigutsu. http://www.google.com/images?hl=3Den&q=3Djap= anese+carpenter+shoes&um=3D1&ie=3DUTF-8&source=3Dog&sa=3DN= &tab=3Dwi&biw=3D1024&bih=3D668

= --Apple-Mail-1--806538804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 07:08:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88976183462; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/sNz+luJ254+HbVYK6BoM+RratnAHUz2cgvRcStdhlk=; b=kpL6iErOlRwzo/CzQu6iIC5DZ9Ge1DTdQjTY3RgZ5e8BJzQEL457dSpMJ1o8RLdLPa YxiaUv6XYiMU1S76TlWqk0EHEL+WdIHoo8IwNDA4Lr9izyCRmzLPjcqEOKXWFIy1OCdj DFPGh3j4rTuRTU9WQerm4Yp4u2iRU+GPDp/5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LmdlTATJBkoK3XPIZv+UHT/5IxryuA0oKnRp2bbdXVp44Q2C4yM5FRn6Ws9t3inFbz j9xdAAmVCLad2kyc+c3jPdTIWDtzZUzAHF5f84zhubrObIgMC+bLB19g8oi2PmPWfI9s 9o3xBR3GBS97+Pvrza2W6BL+Ffu/iWoyx8rKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4-bjUD.A.wlB.PHjVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Loved this one and Unravelled also. Your bass treats Bjork well. :) On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I finished my live looping performance of a cover of Bjork's Undo from > Vespertine. I needed to do something from the 00's, Vespertine was releas= ed > in 2001 and probably my favorite album from that decade so it was an easy > choice. 2010's are gonna be much tougher:) Then I'll promise I'll give yo= u > guys a break for a bit:) > > http://vimeo.com/19727896 > If you missed em my 70's, 80's, and 90's looping covers can be seen > at:=A0http://vimeo.com/channels/gtmbass > -Todd Matthews > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 07:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 622AB18345A; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=c6xVXbPN8q+X7rX/J7AsYqOBnK1PK0h2deSOKj8bHU4=; b=EKXnYFvc2if7kRMGzaZjFCE1/W+hIbl9kCZJakwLQOl0e5MYTUYfh7ZRtZ49mCSNDb KmPje8NQ0INGdE7jaB3qOeg60oqgYltHjKCTLaBukZ2j4ukJDcVGPsK8WPvjFyZ8oA4w Mvob6mvQAFgbeV470+No99roSGMU+jKznectk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=p0L5H0tyg1Bu3Zz5+3fJDmLP8Y9aD7USpnYVwPX46HxsK/TLVkrMrfCtELqfpKIKBB gFcOdBt2NXD2ovX9jDEWmwhHtzFavaGLl8ZtE7QruR1Md9h8nVnwNYHfuztDYS0xxrHG je7IdHRm8UZ01rEvnLaHLe1l1frQ/iIqQjUxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:33:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043449ea1a367049c10d39b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:33:12 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043449ea1a367049c10d39b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 SoundPlant in its sheer simplicity is an awesome program! Wonderful! -Petri- 2011/2/12 Dennis Moser > :D ... yeah...using it for something like that should be just > fine...never hurts to max out the RAM and get a faster hard drive, but > it's always amazing how much life is left in them when you make them > "mono-taskers!" > > Have fun; Soundplant can be a hoot! > > Best. > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > Thanks, already made the deal! > > > > I'm using it solely for Soundplant39, so it's got Tiger but it's fine. > > > > Had a gig with it today and it performed like a dream! :-) > > > > > > -Petri- > > > > 2011/2/11 Dennis Moser > >> > >> Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5, > >> i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's > >> still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the > >> pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it's > >> still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to > >> make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive). > >> > >> Good luck! > >> > >> Dennis > >> > >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > >> http://audiozoloft.com > >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen > >> wrote: > >> > Thanks Sylvain! > >> > > >> > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 > >> > euros. > >> > > >> > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today = not a dime > >> > > >> > :-D > >> > > >> > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras > >> >> > >> >> hi, > >> >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. This is > based > >> >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. > >> >> > >> >> http://worthmonkey.com/ > >> >> > >> >> Sylvain > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use it > as > >> >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. > >> >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB > memory, > >> >> > graphic > >> >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. > >> >> > > >> >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old > computer? > >> >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this list, > so > >> >> > I > >> >> > know > >> >> > you know is this worth any money or not. > >> >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.) > >> >> > > >> >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Petri Lahtinen > >> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > >> >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > >> >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > >> >> > Fripp- > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > >> >> > lead." > >> >> > -Charles Bukowski- > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Petri Lahtinen > >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > >> > Fripp- > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." > >> > -Charles Bukowski- > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > > -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3043449ea1a367049c10d39b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SoundPlant in its sheer simplicity is an awesome program!
Wonderful!
=
-Petri-

2011/2/12 Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gm= ail.com>
:D ... yeah...usi= ng it for something like that should be just
fine...never hurts to max out the RAM and get a faster hard drive, but
it's always amazing how much life is left in them when you make them "mono-taskers!"

Have fun; Soundplant can be a hoot!

Best.

Dennis

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Pe= tri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, already made the deal!
>
> I'm using it solely for Soundplant39, so it's got Tiger but it= 's fine.
>
> Had a gig with it today and it performed like a dream! :-)
>
>
> -Petri-
>
> 2011/2/11 Dennis Moser <= sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
>>
>> Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5= ,
>> i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There= 9;s
>> still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the >> pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so = it's
>> still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades = to
>> make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive).
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> http:/= /soundcloud.com/usrsbin
>> http://audioz= oloft.com
>> http= ://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Sylvain!
>> >
>> > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's = under 100
>> > euros.
>> >
>> > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D = not a dime
>> >
>> > :-D
>> >
>> > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> hi,
>> >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. = =A0This is based
>> >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's li= st and ebay.
>> >>
>> >> htt= p://worthmonkey.com/
>> >>
>> >> Sylvain
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm = supposed to use it as
>> >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs.
>> >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 p= rocessor, 768 MB memory,
>> >> > graphic
>> >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB= of SDRAM.
>> >> >
>> >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind = of old computer?
>> >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users= on this list, so
>> >> > I
>> >> > know
>> >> > you know is this worth any money or not.
>> >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or somethin= g like that.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Petri Lahtinen
>> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
>> >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
>> >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
>> >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------<= br> >> >> > "Only become professional musician if there is = no choice." -Robert
>> >> > Fripp-
>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------<= br> >> >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horribl= e lives they must
>> >> > lead."
>> >> > -Charles Bukowski-
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Petri Lahtinen
>> > ht= tp://www.petrilahtinen.com
>> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
>> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
>> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
>> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice= ." -Robert
>> > Fripp-
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives t= hey must lead."
>> > -Charles Bukowski-
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
> http:= //petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http= ://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
> http://= twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http:= //petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -= Robert Fripp-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
>
>




--
Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
---------------------------------------------------
"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3043449ea1a367049c10d39b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 07:57:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98090183465; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_794686ca-b541-4e2d-aea5-6d70c955c214_" X-Originating-IP: [217.44.234.179] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: The State of Boss Looping Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:57:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com>,<7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2011 07:57:32.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[80DA0320:01CBCA8A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:57:34 +0000 (UTC) --_794686ca-b541-4e2d-aea5-6d70c955c214_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it's because these events are primarily commercial adverts=2C not a= rtistic patronage. This=2C compounded by the likelihood that the judges are= probably clueless suits means that peole who actually give a damn about th= e music end up scratchng our heads and/or feeling frustrated. Peace G .Why does mainstream seem more like =20 > downstream these days? discuss... > Bill >=20 = --_794686ca-b541-4e2d-aea5-6d70c955c214_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it's because these events are primarily commercial adverts=2C not a= rtistic patronage. This=2C compounded by the likelihood that the judges are= probably clueless suits means that peole who actually give a damn about th= e music end up scratchng our heads and/or feeling frustrated.

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= --_794686ca-b541-4e2d-aea5-6d70c955c214_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 08:26:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34490183465; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RPl4aJfVljIBWMyjIH+gWKtDIDaQusrdqC3V+OKM3/U=; b=rHev+3/i0HI9TOtpm8+bzmQxp6yF+tukjTxRgcVsD1dIxFENVfAfC0CQBpBSvgIC5x 53D8/mZS9na/Xd8jvC+CHRNeno3sdRuMQbQ0YhNMjbzPKnbDtmYJE3vlPiIkxs2p3fw+ MYth21xeLAEhiGWMDxs6l743xYoXTWBZDDjRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b43Lv1Nk8LdBQoEnGHIruxNzkaBI1oLFN3BlyssgG/Ix5gGQCTouZgWaHkLvhoux1g OxT6eCRdxeGu00TfBFkAZPi7ngNC/oW0dC4uSUUheKm6+Wk0TjRAKIiNhoT/fyohQTfr kzA0FkpKZ0gM6kjPEtCIv+ziL205/s1vaZaLM= References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:26:12 +0100 Message-ID: <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Per can you confirm/ test, that this... Per Boysen wrote: > SyncedDelay=94. Its > functionalitly is identical: insert a delay at any place in the MIDI > stream. Only important difference is that the SyncedDelay length is > expressed in terms of a MIDI Clock: you can define a delay ranging > from 1 to 127 =9316th notes=94, a 16th note being 6 MIDI clocks. T ...means that it DELAYS your foots switching... Or QUANTISEs your foot switching to the Next midi clock, and THEN delays by a midi clock division, before sending your command? The first is interesting, but the second is what I want. Sorry it's been a while to respond to this, but the GORDIUS manual is a fat one!!! Of course the manual goes out the window when I actually get one. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 10:53:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C02DE183462; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uf8RIPkhq3s13vLc/qKLvBLS85RDtdxZA+Q6uJ+B51c=; b=ARx265XXFh2xvVmKo7eHqxL9lZ6XUSitoP5HN1JciJWlxmcWHsa5SPLfh6nUuWuY85 kw6bRfbK/sU35TaJw4Y+a1I50re/5nDqoJ5EXbZfL8iiWYr26huetP4EErhrzr8va9IW FjB0L8iwEX03Vgex5vdQYhb6DAsu5GVrNIeio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uCO0PyphQFItcq6k7EBAViqua2Y7t1NDpVyVp8uXMaNf+i3R+gWtx7Dx8r5ccvRAdK wqIt/V1GAYD7rQhaLFuckqZnodxE+v8XJEo47wya5PL+ZEm1LWDV8ABhEnh8MVG94IXd 9X4ub6+/8/JxkDCd8Os8jJCC1bDHL8K/LDHmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:53:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Per Boysen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:53:55 +0000 (UTC) I would guess this is for sending a sequence of MIDi events, preferably notes. I'm away on a little tour right now and I duoubt I can find time to program my LG2 to test this. Sorry about that. On Saturday, February 12, 2011, mark francombe wr= ote: > Per can you confirm/ test, that this... > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> SyncedDelay=E2=80=9D. Its >> functionalitly is identical: insert a delay at any place in the MIDI >> stream. Only important difference is that the SyncedDelay length is >> expressed in terms of a MIDI Clock: you can define a delay ranging >> from 1 to 127 =E2=80=9C16th notes=E2=80=9D, a 16th note being 6 MIDI clo= cks. T > > > ...means that it DELAYS your foots switching... Or QUANTISEs your foot > switching to the Next midi clock, and THEN delays by a midi clock > division, before sending your command? The first is interesting, but > the second is what I want. Sorry it's been a while to respond to this, > but the GORDIUS manual is a fat one!!! Of course the manual goes out > the window when I actually get one. > > Mark > > --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 11:19:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DECED183453; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576077674/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.222/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.222 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRze/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45gwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="576077674" Message-ID: <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:19:54 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7IDtz.A.tGH.QzmVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:19:44 +0000 (UTC) CC'ed to Xavier. mark francombe wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: > >> SyncedDelay”. Its >> functionalitly is identical: insert a delay at any place in the MIDI >> stream. Only important difference is that the SyncedDelay length is >> expressed in terms of a MIDI Clock: you can define a delay ranging >> from 1 to 127 “16th notes”, a 16th note being 6 MIDI clocks. T > > > ...means that it DELAYS your foots switching... It counts midi Ticks > Or QUANTISEs your foot > switching to the Next midi clock, I expect it Quantises to the next midi *Tick* before it can start counting ...or it just waits till it's seen enough ticks to match the count. The difference is too small timewise to be sure. You don't want to Quantise to ticks, that'll not be any noticeable difference to UnQuantised. >and THEN delays by a midi clock > division, before sending your command? The first is interesting, but > the second is what I want. The EDP keeps track of where you are in the beat. The Gordius can't know when to Quantise. What we'd need to do that is a new Gordius command. The EDP sends out specific midi notes for beat, cycle and loop. If we could somehow talk Xavier into putting in a "WaitForNote" command your wish would come true. When it encountered a WaitForNote command the LG would have to simply wait until that note appeared at it's Midi Input, and then continue with it's stream of commands. I can imagine that *would* have uses beyond the EDP. The LG will can already launch it's commands when it receives a midi ProgCh or CC. andy > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 15:12:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D337183461; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/5GWgtf4QKsFhdzAKCIMCfsGQ2X6DycdaCRibdRLEPU=; b=DQyrWSazJbb9OJu5lXjifSF5U/ROhQxVL1EkV4aFM+NRQtVRHcbwk0x+eSuOde9TPE 38QYGLg+Hw9TDSqwOvW085oo6IR9xNh8yCMQj2i46DmxQiz5b8lgiRI/S1uHGErI+bD4 ikskQoeFA7qDJTmxsVCmB6M6Ry5kZiHtMCJmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vYWX0OYhuq7VBTDaGmFO9GRKYnclGlYtOrqn0RVeCcaw2UMZ4ocOEEZ+YbnO5vIwVq uzUFJpms4JQv+kNmhENp+VyvvMcEiXQgGbjLbcBNp0Obk3dQ56ITxn5MYJRBBCj28BmT 86F07D4p2PzONjUctG7ys51+HTqBcEsX+89Os= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reasonable price for used iBook G4? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5zZgVB.A.RIE.iNqVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:12:34 +0000 (UTC) SoundPlant looks like fun. It's just begging for a hacked keyboard foot controller project: http://goo.gl/ILHWo Sylvain On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > SoundPlant in its sheer simplicity is an awesome program! > Wonderful! > > -Petri- > > 2011/2/12 Dennis Moser >> >> :D ... yeah...using it for something like that should be just >> fine...never hurts to max out the RAM and get a faster hard drive, but >> it's always amazing how much life is left in them when you make them >> "mono-taskers!" >> >> Have fun; Soundplant can be a hoot! >> >> Best. >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Petri Lahtinen >> wrote: >> > Thanks, already made the deal! >> > >> > I'm using it solely for Soundplant39, so it's got Tiger but it's fine. >> > >> > Had a gig with it today and it performed like a dream! :-) >> > >> > >> > -Petri- >> > >> > 2011/2/11 Dennis Moser >> >> >> >> Keep in mind that with the G4 you will be limited to Mac OS X 10.5, >> >> i.e., Leopard and only software that will run on the PPC. There's >> >> still a lot you can do (I'm using a G5 tower, so I feel the >> >> pain...only alleviated by using my day-job Intel MacBook Pro!) so it'= s >> >> still worth snagging at that price.. And you can do some upgrades to >> >> make it more efficient (more RAM, fast hard drive). >> >> >> >> Good luck! >> >> >> >> Dennis >> >> >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> >> http://audiozoloft.com >> >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Petri Lahtinen >> >> wrote: >> >> > Thanks Sylvain! >> >> > >> >> > I think its bit too much. We have already discussed it's under 100 >> >> > euros. >> >> > >> >> > What kind of price would PC from the same era hold today =3D not a = dime >> >> > >> >> > :-D >> >> > >> >> > 2011/2/10 Sylvain Poitras >> >> >> >> >> >> hi, >> >> >> worthmonkey says between 167$ and 217$ for an iBook G4. =A0This is >> >> >> based >> >> >> on past and current listings on sites like craig's list and ebay. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://worthmonkey.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Sylvain >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Petri Lahtinen >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > I got a iBook G4 for tryout from my friend, I'm supposed to use = it >> >> >> > as >> >> >> > SoundPlant-machine on my looping gigs. >> >> >> > It's from 2004, it's got 1.2GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 768 MB >> >> >> > memory, >> >> >> > graphic >> >> >> > card is ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 (4X AGP) with 32 MB of SDRAM. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What would be reasonable price to pay for this kind of old >> >> >> > computer? >> >> >> > In euros or dollars, I know there are many Mac-users on this lis= t, >> >> >> > so >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > know >> >> >> > you know is this worth any money or not. >> >> >> > (My own opinion is 50 euros (60 dollars) or something like that.= ) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Many thanks if you care to answer me...! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Petri Lahtinen >> >> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> >> >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robe= rt >> >> >> > Fripp- >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must >> >> >> > lead." >> >> >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Petri Lahtinen >> >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> >> > Fripp- >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must >> >> > lead." >> >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Petri Lahtinen >> > http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert >> > Fripp- >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.= " >> > -Charles Bukowski- >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 20:38:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE792183462; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> Subject: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcvKI5V8UvjtnvDbQuikZL4X0iKbuAA0OqbA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:38:44 +0000 (UTC) > And the complaints about its small size also run contrary to a general trend I see here and elsewhere that everyone wants lighter, smaller , more powerfull controller options. I can't get the image out of my head of Will Ferrel as Mugato in the movie Zoolander, pulling out his teeny tiny cell phone to talk on here's a video where I played the tiny buttons of a Nanokontrol with my toes (because I couldn't get my ancient PCM10 to run on this day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NCdAT7Ecs of course I had to look on the floor all the time. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 12 20:59:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4720C183465; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gM4V8Nh+TJ07b9xBosoOZ4KYAbPaMxO53EtzOsmexu4=; b=j6hAnh0maUbLr199XR0dA98HIAxvTbmWU27X5AnhKDGSu5vtTE/ccxybeauVugsYP6 MV0nDpJA6cPoeqKZcihPE0IEQ48Vrzsx3dq0rMRcFYF6mtyPIIeDE3LlU2gI5Q/ze/XE Fwp+PLbXkYNCL5U1QHrpHal0EOx3/HLa6MaVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EKeflg8VJ4tqAJTgUcl2CQv26pV506h12EZFy1+aWxWgnrOpF9oR3FedKXGLPd41XD ha1idmRuqresAyfW3mZ6tdUMIQ6oA9oimWmwK/0EXDqpPUkTRxPGwAh8jBttGZJy/jn4 kEGt2VtIgG3ncuFrMgciL9+WLtOuWPizditIk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> References: <727DAB40-4BCC-43F5-8560-E861E156FD8D@baymoon.com> <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <3JoxyC.A.X0F.4SvVNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:59:36 +0000 (UTC) wow,Michael what is that instrument? i love the sound of it!! awesome,using mobius? sounds like 2 EDP s you are making me nervous because i just bought a used PMC10;-(( Luis > here's a video where I played the tiny buttons of a Nanokontrol with my toes > (because I couldn't get my ancient PCM10 to run on this day) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NCdAT7Ecs > of course I had to look on the floor all the time. > > -Michael > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 00:18:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF54C18345A; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7Dd4N0hmLkU61Q0OmsNeyD9blU/IHIGc6KbEzvf0YNY=; b=fwtujVIXfBvwk0PkFvwU8Fj5rYgupriuWekZFYGT21UnEpEkbRhIGMZePulcEMlOEu CMROpzAWMiQ1r5g0bhhormaZgcpsmgyQ5vzi3IZj5XYvxbhWVlWCR7qyuO0YIh/KXKhQ fYYRFZhFDSdItgBu48NLbrPKbKdaDodp0BSVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nD9SwRig2Gk3X/0eV9ztdWGJf5f6U4qBBJP9VJ4yMHkHAl5nhkrCBKQ88RBxvb4yaQ EfmVgiUjBDXzy/uMK/1bSHpHCKokQbucHT8SaBdXksdAVFQx2XllBIBgNIetGpnPC5hs Trvj+nO2tyB2K1Hp/t7pNuBMF8XZjo06u6XKE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325555e76963bdf049c1edfb3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:18:42 +0000 (UTC) --000325555e76963bdf049c1edfb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Listened to this at work with headphones. Very hypnotic and soothing. The tones you're getting out of the instrument are quite pleasing to the ears to say the least. Thanks, Adam --000325555e76963bdf049c1edfb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listened to this at work with headphones. =A0Very hypnotic and soothing. = =A0The tones you're getting out of the instrument are quite pleasing to= the ears to say the least.

Thanks,
Adam
--000325555e76963bdf049c1edfb3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 00:38:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C9D183461; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=mye80E51PzQd8BmI7tZ/OzKewt64WaTdRKeN8gepkYs=; b=aRc4ZWDXvkbTg5OQMjqUVpyWaBDils6RYqIrhLOFgF2yGE4PzwNrqOamB2aSHXttlP 8jAZu3wKt+U/mwA+h7vs4MKDCSGsA3lUpdaWXdlicPN+WLMTUUCAM/nZo1pG+wCFPjik 5/I1ZnSbetxj38j9HVkDkRnq7aM9d3xP0suFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=IxxI7//Ng32RCVc2zY71Qkk1wk6bAlnl07pcHiTTBgDwniBPg22tltn0i/RZ/gAVxD biJsviOxcvusF96nc5Zwa4kqMSpTE1p/W9hGmREtqPBncfvUwVl+yk2trjYUQ7UsyQaQ jw5YSzbF9q2zwhLx2KFz4fSmCFWsdm6IX52BM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Bjork's Undo - Double Bass Live Loopin' From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:38:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5E9D2159-3116-4C68-8423-F99E93C66585@gmail.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Adam. That couldn't have come at a better time. I've trying to do = a video for the next one to finish up this project and I've been = completely sucking ass. i just walked away feeling defeated but your = words have given me a boost to do what seems like Take #15,453,279 :)=20 In other news I gotta find a new way to trigger the softstep. I've been = mashing it with my big toe and it's freakin' killing me now.=20 Here goes nuffin, Todd On Feb 12, 2011, at 7:18 PM, ^|>^m wrote: > Listened to this at work with headphones. Very hypnotic and soothing. = The tones you're getting out of the instrument are quite pleasing to = the ears to say the least. >=20 > Thanks, > Adam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 02:15:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED3C18345F; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-88--718970673 Subject: Re: Compressor-Sustain Pedal Advice Pigtronix OT Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:14:52 -0800 In-Reply-To: <37537B41-4B03-4DFA-B8DA-EC969113D84C@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110206214532.A5459183478@arsenic.violacea.com> <1325FFEE-BE86-4B1C-9F85-D57C388D8AF1@baymoon.com> <37537B41-4B03-4DFA-B8DA-EC969113D84C@grubmah.com> Message-Id: <6CC55181-5BA6-41FB-A1EE-A5F25B423C09@grubmah.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:14:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-88--718970673 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:44 PM, William Walker wrote: >=20 >> you talking expression pedals or the knobs themselves? again I say = compression should be a subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping = turn up the input volume, turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 = oclock and bring the blend up to taste, treble up full, unless your = guitar is particularly bright. >> Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go out on a limb here = and assume it was built in China, so the likely hood of a bad batch of = components potentially effecting an entire run of compressors (assuming = its the same basic compressor board in both pigtronix models) is not = only possible its quite high actually. now I feel really guilty for = having sung such high praises of this compressor. Yes I think its a = better sounding compressor than most on the market but this is very = discouraging to hear. >=20 > The compressor part on mine sounds great. I suspect my initial issues = had more to do with over doing the compression, finding myself feeling = alienated/distanced from the sound coming out of the monitors, and = thinking that maybe it's just that I don't like compression. The grit = control is something I'm still deciding about. >=20 > Mine is also the germanium model so I don't know how many components = it shares with Andy's. >=20 > So, you can wait to feel guilty until mine develops hardware = problems... (and even then I won't blame you since the reviews were all = quite positive). Upshot a week later. It's definitely staying on my board. Now, I'll just = hope the build quality issues don't come to haunt me. Mark --Apple-Mail-88--718970673 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Feb 6, 2011, at = 2:44 PM, William Walker wrote:

you talking expression = pedals or the knobs themselves? again I say compression should be a = subtle thing so to avoid the dreaded pumping turn up the input volume, = turn down the sustain to between 9 and 10 oclock and bring the blend up = to taste,  treble up full, unless your guitar is particularly = bright.
 Ok so this brings us to the next issue, lets go = out on a limb here and assume it was built in China, so the likely hood = of a bad batch of components  potentially effecting an entire run = of compressors (assuming its the same basic compressor board in both = pigtronix models) is not only possible its quite high actually. =  now I feel really guilty for having sung such high praises of this = compressor. Yes I think its a better sounding compressor than most on = the market but this is very discouraging to = hear.

The compressor part = on mine sounds great. I suspect my initial issues had more to do with = over doing the compression, finding myself feeling alienated/distanced = from the sound coming out of the monitors, and thinking that maybe it's = just that I don't like compression. The grit control is something I'm = still deciding about.

Mine is also the = germanium model so I don't know how many components it shares with = Andy's.

So, you can wait to feel guilty until = mine develops hardware problems... (and even then I won't blame you = since the reviews were all quite = positive).

Upshot a week later. = It's definitely staying on my board. Now, I'll just hope the build = quality issues don't come to haunt = me.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-88--718970673-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 02:31:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAC62183462; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HK/q47eCWGLn/DoXdR+9nD22t7gyeWjNUzds1E6u/fc=; b=cz0Wg2ovtWyu/1UckjzbNzirymbCqWxlCrXg2vmLIM/qF3Z7piG0bLrJ9EEalBwK+G fiFRblfiBflLhLREmWBXH8UogS3C5NFIsTuIq2zhOQ0iOKRACjeLToGcq2gmMPKUb6Kx NJ40sDbaiQncEP+u9sUmI8aK7bnpgjHEyxEoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fR6gq6t5MHS6Nme+npQZW5//BFOu2ZpZLtqUxGPz0nEo1ZIobU0RNnh/bk2KUDBuay on+Wu01+c4cpf84TtKwmHafUNfRwwuLSAxr2hmE3I739avl3Yodb2cGr0VqwYfdDS5FN jJiY58vGHQQ2FUNusK2fljlGNl5mM4VKZQBQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:31:51 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: selling some stuff on ebay, boss slicer and eh 16ddl-ri From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649da8ad7f13f049c20bbcb Resent-Message-ID: <2WIPBC.A.iUH.YK0VNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:31:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016e649da8ad7f13f049c20bbcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 selling some stuff on ebay: boss slicer, ebay #: 140511807689 eh 16 ddl-re, ebay #: 140511813578 selling them b/c i have slicer options in some other dj effects things, and finally decided that i wasn't really using the eh 16 ddl enough to keep it. just using my simple delay and sampler for loops. honestly i think i use my guyatone md3 (2.3 sec of delay) and the digitech dl8 for it's 2 sec of delay more. i did like the 16ddl, i guess i never got as good as nels cline or bill frisell--big HA!!! happy looping... s--- --0016e649da8ad7f13f049c20bbcb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
selling some stuff on ebay:
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boss slicer, ebay #: 140511807689
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eh 16 ddl-re, ebay #: 140511813578
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selling them b/c i have slicer options in some other dj effects things= , and finally decided that i wasn't really using the eh 16 ddl enough t= o keep it.
just using my simple delay and sampler for loops. honestly i think i u= se my guyatone md3 (2.3 sec of delay) and the digitech dl8 for it's 2 s= ec of delay more.
i did like the 16ddl, i guess i never got as good as nels cline or bil= l frisell--big HA!!!
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happy looping...
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--0016e649da8ad7f13f049c20bbcb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 02:44:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A02418345A; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110213001844.03A4E183473@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--717200762 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:44:22 -0800 References: <20110213001844.03A4E183473@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <53GsE.A.nqH.OW0VNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:44:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--717200762 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here's a video where I played the tiny buttons of a Nanokontrol with my toes (because I couldn't get my ancient PCM10 to run on this day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NCdAT7Ecs of course I had to look on the floor all the time. -Michael Nice chumbushin' Michael, I was wondering if anyone had tried a nano on the floor. Bill --Apple-Mail-9--717200762 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
here's a = video where I played the tiny buttons of a Nanokontrol with my = toes
(because I couldn't get my = ancient PCM10 to run on this day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DO4NCdAT7Ecs<= /span>
of course I had to look on = the floor all the time. <sigh>

-Michael



Nice chumbushin' Michael, I was = wondering if anyone had tried a nano on the = floor.
 Bill
= --Apple-Mail-9--717200762-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 03:04:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF2918345F; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=P31wcjv5xvC2BvWHB13LofpcBj+WWt00fFLNY6YFz/U=; b=ACfHmcevcLtuweLVSTm+mrfxBZbmQbrloKwoFmGUmrgeHkjyLHrZytdtWAogIgBp0O Wl1fX/NkUOPC8nERqoDsLlc1g6DTbSuGoaVU4pckFOZK/qbgFIoKZ1w+mikWCkgLdO5C KE3QjhIJikMLCSvq8Ce2pb6knWNcWaC0D8fxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=T9D7uEkSYfN8BwjDehrp1/IP2TtmNNxbJTx8RxgqLGL+0CF5K4IxQ75R94nUDlq0jC iTzY4QJwbWOndLufoHFA5uiLkMFq6RFTEkmPG+dh97qwQGY1JIv6myJuMo4gpmtU4t9Y uAnjooJrpsVf7bv2t4ZVvAnP4IoqRX7P/w+SE= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Todd Matthews Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Double Bass Loopin' through the Decades - 2010 - Jonsi - Sinking Friendships To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549975688949049c21310b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 03:04:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549975688949049c21310b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's my last video for my live loop cover video from each decade project. Jonsi - Sinking Friendships - Double Bass Live Looping - the 2010's on Vimeo http://bit.ly/eUEGI3 and here it is on YouTube in case Vimeo doesn't play nice with your device YouTube - teeodoubled3000's Channel http://bit.ly/gT3Lto Thank you for all the support and encouragement :) Todd Matthews --20cf30549975688949049c21310b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my last video for my live loop cover video from each decade proj= ect. =A0

Jonsi - Sinking Friendships - Double Bass Live = Looping - the 2010's on Vimeo=A0

and here it is on YouTube in case Vimeo doesn't pla= y nice with your device


YouTube - t= eeodoubled3000's Channel=A0

Thank you for all the support and encouragement :)

Todd Matthews
--20cf30549975688949049c21310b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 06:14:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E378D18345F; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=20JCemHYHDa5VDsNLj8lN8fNWRGnquptL7pXbse5KQU=; b=j/P2ZMOY3x60FMFOugHPj6A4vDIddvS4JwACRCTjBj7gQMwbb3rOeyBPnSPUOCAnue L0xjFbD8DSXZp5lgPxztr1PeQSDJY80yaeNmZ5dsjVK/jfCPS/2tzEA/qmvQos+INoD7 XRd8fuRy8Fee5Api0+1RmhR+1l33F5jfUFSc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YbIs3cSEiUdH0OsXg1WfXjI5IYouN+Yv8EjcOHCXijS154QwuLWEN7z6UFfQdY33Bw ygqrBWi2OGaGBRvVDnG35zp9Fl1IItZ+77MmznosnGYiJUYeaFrGZJXxqstFTepSdKE1 ObCsj9bA40sDx4uVw6QlC23xZ+9LiDCoOL/dw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:14:44 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Double Bass Loopin' through the Decades - 2010 - Jonsi - Sinking Friendships From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Bravo Todd! I love your playing. Your tone is just wonderful, when you pluck that note at 1:56 it really connects! I'm also really impressed with your intonation. I'm not very knowledgeable about bass.I listen to a lot of jazz, so I don't hear much bowed bass. I love Arild Anderson and Barre Phillips, but what you are doing I think is very different and interesting. Sorry to hear that this series has reached its end. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Here's my last video for my live loop cover video from each decade project. > > Jonsi - Sinking Friendships - Double Bass Live Looping - the 2010's on > Vimeo > http://bit.ly/eUEGI3 > and here it is on YouTube in case Vimeo doesn't play nice with your device > > YouTube - teeodoubled3000's Channel > http://bit.ly/gT3Lto > Thank you for all the support and encouragement :) > Todd Matthews -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 07:20:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E1BC183462; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D578634.1030405@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 23:20:20 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Peters CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Soft Step real feedback please References: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:20:27 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Peters wrote > > here's a video where I played the tiny buttons of a Nanokontrol with my toes > (because I couldn't get my ancient PCM10 to run on this day) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NCdAT7Ecs > of course I had to look on the floor all the time. > > I really dig this piece, Michael. Is this the Oud Cumbus? I had the Tar Cumbus, which is the very long necked one. I had a very hard time keeping it in tune which is why I sold it eventually, but this one seems to stay in tune. Very cool. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 08:24:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A00718345A; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Rick Walker'" Cc: References: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> <4D578634.1030405@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: <938A4F6D58AE4C55889092265A8A8405@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 In-Reply-To: <4D578634.1030405@cruzio.com> Thread-Index: AcvLToDcBHaxHoboS0Sfml2UbmkOMgACJ1Qg Resent-Message-ID: <_aT0CC.A.f0.YV5VNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:24:56 +0000 (UTC) > I really dig this piece, Michael. Is this the Oud Cumbus? I think so, but I tuned it in classical guitar tuning for simplicity's sake -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 09:44:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99D4D183456; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Louie Angulo'" , References: Subject: RE: Soft Step real feedback please Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: <061FAE811743438A8E9A15BEF4489A79@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvLVq4e+8zNcR61S9+CvmTLrR2CBQACswUg Resent-Message-ID: <45xc1.A.bED.pf6VNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:44:09 +0000 (UTC) > wow,Michael what is that instrument? i love the sound of it!! a Turkish C=FCmb=FCs (as written in the notes of the video :-) - check = out Youtube for many more videos of people actually playing it the way it = was meant to. > awesome,using mobius? sounds like 2 EDP s I never used Mobius - I use 2 software EDPs, the beta version of = Matthias Grob's Looplug, or whatever he calls it now > you are making me nervous because i just bought a used PMC10;-(( I don't remember clearly - maybe I used the Nanokontrol not because my = PMC10 didn't work as I said, maybe it was rather because I couldn't figure how = to program it quickly enough to fit my needs, or because the cables or = software to program it didn't work. Do you have the little programmer box for the PMC10, or how do you program it? I usually have the two rows of buttons on the Nanokontrol addressing the = two EDPs. That is something I'm planning to do with my Softstep now, but I didn't have time yet to try it. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 10:56:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68FBC183464; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AWYQIWPlP2lFA++RxwuXuKSAUqcC+9mJXU/DqGTM5Q8=; b=XyO0eqQPWmHlXTVELcZcU/4PzY8oF1n+4M5zuB+wbeQj+HB0LoGK4WoW/LcOdE6OFG cDV6T3OCN6DxWLNBCe5Xw1OuOXeQDyvqyXoQ5eRnr6x6crdtsGo/83gAw3HnIykrMARv hLgas+nkVAjVtkRH73/Fcb/YqyqZkYofMHB2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pCLCz3g2k5epPL1my41Ru9akecMWyvVvzcKDIs4yrHGCdnoZ87e36QkxqWBvSbLzcg QpR8pUdLzqPRN4eGJw4gtCJIpEBRGvB8rApkTvAvH3+ZYT5vz0X51aPkY5MCHRVNbH5k zvC5zFudK7mnOq7IHaKqAmlUKFw2Jfw7+Bo48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:56:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: rackcases for sale From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <0mBR7D.A.m9E.wj7VNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:56:48 +0000 (UTC) here u go: Millenium 2 space rackbag,very light to transport,you can even carry it as a hand bag,like new never goged with it, 20.-eur. http://www.thomann.de/de/millenium_rackbag_2he.htm Stagg ultra light 5U 19" rackcase 30.-eur. http://www.heimkino-hifi.de/images/produkte/i10/1006817.jpg cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 11:01:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7723F183461; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R6F/6VbfYN4oTQ0982Ggdc3BwA6w0LHu3XVbmICHZdQ=; b=uKZ2TxkCvkUwxJ1uzZVFNsHhuBPR/OL/Em4JIr2nqsR+ovTK7AR6hn/lBMLVK9Ug3l yEKRyFhLuwjpY0wSu0IfxfPU7ZmED91SwSKpfpFW5+RfEHG01vauf3hGIpr/2GWbs5el ELTARi7rEWj8mLygrQq7xIIwuqHPGPShd89bM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Y1DbBRLM0AXPvs5KjOrLyPtE/ezqpzoZ9MQsLWkrTk03AnynyWTvjSmsgN6m+/FYP4 4I+NVuysPouFZKlahVHbQZgSvyf/D9alXMdg1Rt16u3aADP8SG6lJKV//qp+sFRHEZzE PMEBkdwJlo7jekXnrsTKvgGJHXSbFde8hLZ80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:01:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:01:05 +0000 (UTC) hey Booster this is awesome! and very interesting how you are doing this but it would be nice if u gave us more detalis in how you used the sequencer to throw this random messages,would you care to share that with us? On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, boost wrote: > Hope you'll enjoy... > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 11:12:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AB43183460; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576352137/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.162/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.162 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRyi/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4IogygEjjk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="576352137" Message-ID: <4D57BCC1.4000901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:13:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: was Soft Step real feedback please Cumbus References: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> <4D578634.1030405@cruzio.com> <938A4F6D58AE4C55889092265A8A8405@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <938A4F6D58AE4C55889092265A8A8405@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:12:51 +0000 (UTC) "Oud Cumbus" describes it well, but it would be called "Cumbus" (pronounced joombush). Invented in Turkey just after Attaturk came to power as a new instrument for a new country. Oud Banjo might also be an appropriate term. (sticking to the common convention of I'd always thought the "long necked one" was a Cumbus Saz (Tar isn't common in Turkey, but saz is ubiquitous). andy Michael Peters wrote: >> I really dig this piece, Michael. Is this the Oud Cumbus? > > I think so, but I tuned it in classical guitar tuning for simplicity's sake > > -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 15:50:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E0C8183460; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3tT96zC5cZYA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=aOa0TE4DZG18lEq6LegA:9 a=HAA608GleG14PVT9GKfhVGDERioA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-Id: <5769E5A1-AB96-41C1-BA49-57333D1D7466@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D57BCC1.4000901@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: was Soft Step real feedback please Cumbus Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:50:32 -0800 References: <571591CEB59742B39C658E5BEB46B896@mpeserver> <4D578634.1030405@cruzio.com> <938A4F6D58AE4C55889092265A8A8405@mpeserver> <4D57BCC1.4000901@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Hiu all, I had the mandolin version of the c=FCmb=FCs for many years. A sort of an 8-stringed, short-necked, mini-banjo with a tin pot body =20= and mando tuning. It was terrible to try to keep in tune though. I managed to make only one recording of it that ever made it to a CD. I finally gave it away to a friend who is both an oud player and a =20 luthier - figuring that he could do something with it. I should call him and see if he ever did. Cheers, Ted On Feb 13, 2011, at 3:13 AM, andy butler wrote: > "Oud Cumbus" describes it well, > but it would be called "Cumbus" (pronounced joombush). > > Invented in Turkey just after Attaturk came to power as a > new instrument for a new country. > > Oud Banjo might also be an appropriate term. > (sticking to the common convention of > > I'd always thought the "long necked one" was a > Cumbus Saz (Tar isn't common in Turkey, but saz > is ubiquitous). > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 15:54:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1CB9183461; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=1gRFv3DD6kfGLHlTLz32m4I71ymMl90mr18As1EjzuU=; b=u9dTDoduUh4LX/KiKKaC52VJ+Acd/oJbVjHstr2eXJPadfYSaQ28v6+JR1zIHym0m2 5D8JQvAeGufaSZ0ZCeh+cBivo4vvXOG4y++6NVDEChNlp6Kahh9fneYEzFIxnPkUizkH YXnOAoZVI1Z3oODG36IO/NoaUxqI+nTrKkQmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=k16rOq853Zu3oq8kvbo7PcRfWJoXCtj17DNu4i8uloI4kjUwpqKhSgtWMhNJiCYDKm TV53mZiadKzY9Y5Hz4TPzz3XAuY3CMxtbJlY4kNmLLk4fMl3hL1RfRgMDTh6bHPkfLZg lMUMPAa1YL5gD0KGChk6BDgXWaT9F5douY9mo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Todd Matthews Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:53:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Double Bass Loopin' through the Decades - 2010 - Jonsi - Sinking Friendships To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d5ab73a46049c2bf18e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:54:21 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8d5ab73a46049c2bf18e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Art! I'm gonna take a break from the arranging but I'm use that time to try to compose some new stuff. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Bravo Todd! > > I love your playing. Your tone is just wonderful, when you pluck that > note at 1:56 it really connects! I'm also really impressed with your > intonation. > > I'm not very knowledgeable about bass.I listen to a lot of jazz, so I > don't hear much bowed bass. I love Arild Anderson and Barre Phillips, > but what you are doing I think is very different and interesting. > Sorry to hear that this series has reached its end. > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > Here's my last video for my live loop cover video from each decade > project. > > > > Jonsi - Sinking Friendships - Double Bass Live Looping - the 2010's on > > Vimeo > > http://bit.ly/eUEGI3 > > and here it is on YouTube in case Vimeo doesn't play nice with your > device > > > > YouTube - teeodoubled3000's Channel > > http://bit.ly/gT3Lto > > Thank you for all the support and encouragement :) > > Todd Matthews > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --90e6ba6e8d5ab73a46049c2bf18e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Art! I'm gonna take a break from the arranging but I'm use t= hat time to try to compose some new stuff.=A0

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
Bravo Todd!

I love your playing. Your tone is just wonderful, when you pluck that
note at 1:56 it really connects! I'm also really impressed with your intonation.

I'm not very knowledgeable about bass.I listen to a lot of jazz, so I don't hear much bowed bass. I love Arild Anderson and Barre Phillips, but what you are doing I think is very different and interesting.
Sorry to hear that this series has reached its end.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's my last video for my live loop cover video from each decade= project.
>
> Jonsi - Sinking Friendships - Double Bass Live Looping - the 2010'= s on
> Vimeo
> http://bit.ly/eUEGI= 3
> and here it is on YouTube in case Vimeo doesn't play nice with you= r device
>
> YouTube - teeodoubled3000's Channel
> http://bit.ly/gT3Lt= o
> Thank you for all the support and encouragement :)
> Todd Matthews



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon


--90e6ba6e8d5ab73a46049c2bf18e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 16:20:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB41818345F; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=z0bAEqRanLPhvC92foNIN4CSQTnuq9vLr7yK47FlSnw=; b=hwoAAtmxisUBdBFuljhqh5Cw5l/GaQ96Bnun/lsCZfThbAcUq806cMhsauXmXp2riI WLXhodTKQOmAUktk1JdaojjcWPEEIgVXeGJW9K9FAW9aTzgNOhwHZ6lqfG/gzDoq/bDX frOKtgfRqgfzFEJcg0tairg15vMgA6oVVKIC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fXMXmczCeSrK2lhlOzXIV+B7WSQt2ItT10fm+2NL9NeegQFGggM28zKtyyW2o3xYM1 5eXxHxChm50WQVDQN6km3S2G+9GZz7P1QQi6olpA2EzQzB9KrbJXymaKJBJP9TfJW12U RPKgMUnPyY0/OWE8seN9IPvRoFEEQdo6xS+y8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:20:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pJhTsvpcxY1aa5TevgUZb270NVk Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:20:59 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM, andy butler wrote: > The EDP keeps track of where you are in the beat. > The Gordius can't know when to Quantise. Well probably quantise is the wrong word, effectively the same though. Just to be clear what I mean... Im imagining THIS scenario. Two hits of a gordius pedal set to RECORD defines the tempo of course, midi clock is sent out of EDP (via a merge probably) BACK to the Gordius. A switch on Gordius can be pressed,at ANY time, and.. because gordius is listening to midi clock IN.. WAITS before for a division of the beat. Lets say an 8th beat.. (this gap might be anything smaller than an 8th.) It sends out an UNDO command.. then waits for the same division (8th) and then fires off another UNDO, waits an 8th... UNDO etc etc as long as I keep my foot down.. I release.. its stops... OR.. A more complex sequence or MULTS INSERTS SPEED CHANGES, REVERSES, in a loop, all divided by a preset division. This is what I do NOW using a drum machine, hence the thread title.. Im looking for an alternate way to achive the same thing, it would have to be a small drum-machine (at least smaller than my Boss DR 202) as my new band entails that I put a bit of extra gear in my rack (a vocoder/synth... yeah!) and so a couple of things have to be pulled out. If I can achive this all with foot-pedal, it will be a very sunny day! Talking of weather, heres some chit chat! I just got back from a skiing trip in the mountains, we stayed over-night in a Cabin (we have a special key that opens all the cabins in Norway, for safety reasons, in case you are stranded) at night it dropped to MINUS 28 DEGREES C!!!! Now that as cold as I ever want to be again!!! I was setting the iphone to ring every hour, so I could get up and put more logs on the fire.. twice I woke to find the fire totally out!!! If the phone had run out of batteries... well ... I dont want to think about it... anyway Im home.. and feeling pretty adventurous!... It was a wonderful expreince, and in the evening Hilde sang a strange Norwegian song for the kids... I videoed it.. it was very strange and haunting! Im gonna make a track out of it.. glitch it up a bit... with her permission Ill post later... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 16:25:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB75183464; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <5769E5A1-AB96-41C1-BA49-57333D1D7466@charter.net> Subject: RE: was Soft Step real feedback please Cumbus Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:25:16 +0100 Message-ID: <91FED3110BBA4BB1A28824FC73329838@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5769E5A1-AB96-41C1-BA49-57333D1D7466@charter.net> Thread-Index: AcvLmicPRaEW3tDPRlaZdWO0t6IOeAAAELSg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:25:19 +0000 (UTC) > It was terrible to try to keep in tune though. my Cumbus is pretty stable in-tune-wise. I really love this thing, and when times should get harder, I can always use the tin pot body to cook me some rice. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 18:07:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 732F6183464; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 245624.21558.bm@omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=cShhyphi/Z5qZQoOXf9ncgrQHkJuT3mHfJ0+2pKa4VRKemPlBd9e7EO6w+A4pEkUYRjxV6GLhR5YaNrQs2mssUImG0Sj9mMsMLzn84ArvIU6xFobiAp3ze/DOS7F6sf86T21veTE7/FcOYPBcPavHqCkiDcRlt4IW8WS2v7d8uo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297620445; bh=of+4VrOo9HqQ7uiDD2L6oSINBtmGj4gKeErUgsPVu44=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=L1WFNXyMe+nnb1axSHlqDHaY5uVmQghkibxeRlMxpzKgEU0kiXzX4rfMIYBPNTpf3ejqQCfWOMAhT9K1JXOj5u+nl+cKXOx4fV1xffdUNUMYNbl2la39OuwDlaraQ1116G+cyR8iPM4VIN3NyJnWUItOZBV1S2ZvH8++ZoRYWtk= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: i_Mmy7oVM1m3KKckYRW9x9RTpILyINIuR.XppizsyFBe5Ek 50AkMlvutHtw6a4xeeo8XrvjZxcwsM7Qgrm0GAmE.kfL3pv355tvTI_mIDY4 1vSx7Fk3spLC1iFsZzNjnbvKSoAigzDm8NdV1JXxP1r7eB4Hq.DIvIsofTbU 8PHrhF82jLnUKF.L636z4T04NXL3zLSl6RrRnEdlRTascO_ly8TRnszB58wE P7N95_F98QtO92F_4qDEK.rTpnDwT1q.BgaIvg7p279QGDZ94cWQVvBrNO8y .htn8sItAAlKpjw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--661828734 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Online streaming loop gig spam Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:07:14 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9--661828734 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I'm doing a streaming gig online at http://www.cafenoodle.ning.com/ in an hour 7pm UK time Cheers guys Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-9--661828734 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
I'm doing a streaming gig online at http://www.cafenoodle.ning.com/ in an hour 7pm UK time

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--Apple-Mail-9--661828734-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 18:53:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5421183464; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2F271rIhFjvWlDZGpMO8ukToxUOOJJUWlSduYc0tcEc=; b=pGqcRziLq5SnUW0bGLw4Pgu0STlOMWNJ6N6zUM6/+zn0B4V0snanJMBRKZSBKBFADl Z6QDeb0Kj+psSfnuv5XTehXcqhECDFEeBKtEHBK4s4w/IZ1lxuLVoEqSYJ6DZera7USz Q/8Y+SckWHVFFUeMAjeNPFLUKoR7EVKMQA8f4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eViU7UylRbtEGubantw65ysYp8hOWfsqYby+fDZ70T062KLqAt6QqqKZoWBo87IyzW X3lq7PGqFQXtMzyZk8nIzRpT1+69Jbr/Pv/x3m5xd+N49woD7+AMcm/1jPG4tiJ5n+zu LO8FIsuKzsxiPi7WRaVJIFbGX8P7QI2sPjzMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <91FED3110BBA4BB1A28824FC73329838@mpeserver> References: <5769E5A1-AB96-41C1-BA49-57333D1D7466@charter.net> <91FED3110BBA4BB1A28824FC73329838@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:53:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: was Soft Step real feedback please Cumbus From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:53:56 +0000 (UTC) yes,and i would recomend using peanut oil or coconut oil to cook on it, pleade dont use olive oil, you will destroy it ad wont be able to cook healthy meals with it ever again. heres a good spicy recipe for you you might try on your cumbus but beware: times might get harder... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxJbhwW4KCA enjoy Luis On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> It was terrible to try to keep in tune though. > > my Cumbus is pretty stable in-tune-wise. I really love this thing, and when > times should get harder, I can always use the tin pot body to cook me some > rice. > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 20:37:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF71183473; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 306 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:37:42 UTC Message-ID: <4D583FDE.7020107@theambientping.com> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:32:30 -0500 From: PiNG Reply-To: ping@theambientping.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , Dark Seeds , Drone Deep Chill , Loopers Delight , The Ambient Way Subject: 02.15.11 > The PiNG presents Gorf + Chromosphere + naw + General Chaos Visuals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 02.15.11 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents RECORDiNG RiGHTS featuring Gorf + Chromosphere + naw + General Chaos Visuals @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market . just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact Tues. Feb. 15th . Doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . 8:30 . Gorf is Michael Duncan McArthur; a musician, interactive designer & web developer currently based in Toronto, Canada. He has been creating and performing various genres of electronic music since 2003. Most of his music is available freely on the internet on his personal website. Michael has released the majority of his music independently, but has also appeared on releases by Here's My Card Records, Bitkins Electronic Music, Anal0g.org, Peace Off Records, Black Pixel Records, and Vague Terrain. http://www.gorfed.net . 9:30 . Chromosphere is the solo project of Kris Helstrom, an alumnus of Digital Poodle and Kinder Atom. Chromosphere is very little without collaborations. Past and present contributors such as Heiki Sillaste, Gerald Belanger, Chris Drost, Bill Mason, Roland Last, Andreas Gregor, Nate Leinert, and perhaps furthest from least, Anne Sulikowski, have during their time, each given something unique to "the cause" that has made the process of Chromosphere more than worthwhile. The product of Chromosphere is all too varied to start mentioning genre with any authority, so it is sufficient to say that it is Chromosphere's mandate to encompass any and all musical ideas of interest; none exclusively electronic, nor exclusively sequenced, nor concerned necessarily with popular appeal. Often set to beats; dance, down-tempo or otherwise, and sometimes just a drone sans any rhythm save perhaps a pulse to assure the listener that it is indeed alive. Exploration seems to still best describe what it is that occurs within this particular Chromosphere. http://www.paperplusound.com/wordpress . 10:30 . naw . Montreal ex-pat naw (Neil Wiernik) who currently calls Toronto his home, began composing electronic music in 1988 with explorations in audio art and experimental music. Neil's interest in sound and technology has led him to a continued questioning and refinement of audio tools and modes of production resulting in experimentation with altered instruments, modified devices, and custom software environments. Neil's music could be described as warm, atmospheric, and cinematic electronic music. The sound design of naw is firmly grounded in the rich traditions of dub studio culture but can also be weighed alongside formal contemporary composition. His music was recently described in "The Wire" as having "...the kind of sharpness and clarity usually lost amid the murk and decay of clicks and cuts and digital delays." Neil has released music on various labels including noise factory and more recently paper+sound under his naw guise and on elevation recordings for his most recent ambient post rock project with aidan baker as whisper room. http://www.phoniq.net . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . After missing a couple of PiNGs in the fall due to sick days, General Chaos Visuals will be back to paint the house with light throughout the night. . Between Sets CDs . "The Desert Inbetween", the new work by Steve Roach & Brian Parnham, masterfully evokes vast uninhabited landscapes. "Out and About" by Italy's Herion is the latest release from the venerable "Hypnos" label and is beautifully crafted primarily on acoustic instruments. In honour of Bob Marley's recent birthday, we'll be spinning "Dreams of Freedom", Bill Laswell's "Ambient Dub Translations" of his timeless music. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON: TUESDAY MARCH 8th 2011 - FiT THE FiRST featuring KALTE + URM + GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS + more TBA @ Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . Kensington Market just south of College . Map, info and directions at: http://www.supermarkettoronto.com/site/section/contact PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free download from the ping things net label: "Meditation Modulation Manipulation" by Sensitive Chaos The latest release from ping things comes from Jim Combs of Sensitive Chaos. "Meditation Modulation Manipulation" is a long form dark ambient drone piece where the passing of time is measured in subtle nuance and minute change. An impressive departure in form from other Sensitive Chaos work, "Meditation Modulation Manipulation" shows an artist expanding his horizons by immersing himself in a different musical environment than he is normally accustomed to, applying new ideals and forms to new styles and spaces. "Meditation Modulation Manipulation" is available for free download as a 117 Mb Zip file containing the full release as a high quality 320kbps mp3 along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on this release is copyright Jim Combs 2011 and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission. For more information about Sensitive Chaos, please visit www.sensitivechaos.com http://pingthings.blogspot.com/2011/01/download-meditation-modulation.html Check out the ping things blog for more free downloadable releases from the ping things net label. http://pingthings.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com The PiNG also has a Twitter account to send you advance updates and reminders of the when & where of future PiNG events. Just search for ambientping to find us. http://twitter.com ViSiT the ping things store for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 13 22:12:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68F98183462; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:00:00 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Hobbs, Gray, Simons solos+trio w Doctor T, Feb 20 Outpost 186 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <1axUkC.A.jSE.1cFWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'm very excited to announce a Visual Music LIVE performance with three of Boston's finest improvisors. Jim Hobbs -- alto sax Junko Simons -- cello Luther Gray -- drums with Dr. T -- Video Projections Sunday Feb, 20, 8 PM at Outpost 186. Each musician will do a rare solo set, followed by trio, accompanied by my video improvisations. My projections are produced by mixing multiple DVD sources with a video mixer and effects processor. The sources consist of computer-manipulated original material derived from my still photography and videography. The original subject matter is usually recognizable, but sometimes processed to complete abstraction. Sometimes the projections and music respond directly to each other -- sometimes they simply co-exist. Outpost 186, 186 Hampshire St (in the back), near Inman Square, Cambridge MA Suggested donation, $10 617.876.0860 ~ all ages ~ http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org Many of my finished video pieces (both studio and live) can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld. with a piece from the Spring Series at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU Those of you who attend or perform at events at Outpost 186 may find my photo essay "Improvisations from an Outpost" http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/ to be of interest, -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 02:40:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B89D0183459; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JCRkOyFslAIJItsHKYuamcsALOZ5nQf8x4vmtuOVGU0=; b=cdGsoCQsgNItNegqStt0SiPv/3VEZIkxy5xCOevyg0TJf6abUcnMkt1ldbagTKIN1U cFJVFXGiIr3JNu/gCw4ZrcuvnHd2hRjvFhp31cN7FkgpsOBUnyQtLKaTbBrFacXihU2+ RpPywYlnKMaAnCM9IWl8oZlp6Q4hZJ3nlII0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cDq53OciKNXZxKQCY8c5gw05hXtMgjnHNi8+U9ZYBxz7R49vND1Y0pZcyZbi0BxvSA kRp8L6appFbCTUvjfWiwmaVI5J+QS4dD2GMmMb+UmbmNIpIzoiQ0JOKB9cxWIbQuUfuq FRPZqyQgamIXt8vd7Y6TA9M0PkMzG3E8AJeaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:40:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Double Bass Loopin' through the Decades - 2010 - Jonsi - Sinking Friendships From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5adb678e0f2049c34f7cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:40:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5adb678e0f2049c34f7cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nice going, man! This is the most amazing one yet IMO. I think arranging is an art form unto its own, and I think this arrangement is a fine piece of art! Really great to listen to, and I loved trying to decipher how many different loops you had going. You're good! Adam --001636c5adb678e0f2049c34f7cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice going, man! This is the most amazing one yet IMO. =A0I think arranging= is an art form unto its own, and I think this arrangement is a fine piece = of art! =A0Really great to listen to, and I loved trying to decipher how ma= ny different loops you had going. =A0You're good!

Adam
--001636c5adb678e0f2049c34f7cb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 09:27:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CFB8183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:27:15 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110214092715.205860@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <556810.60199.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19RFLc5LiZRBOfXL1xKw5NzJBb9IllznA0QNgGpd3 aKltnJUSVsvURVlZXDdYApWg0OpcCgpfRNIg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: IIE9PQIxZCEEeMdhnm0h3a54IGhpZcbz Resent-Message-ID: <2GL3kD.A.RLB.1VPWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:27:17 +0000 (UTC) This year's contest sounds much more mature... Some very interesting performances out there... http://www.bossloop.com/ Loved the Japanese female performer. Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:14:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B0BF183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 571079798/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAEKPWE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMl13IQ4VeBI8l X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,468,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="571079798" Message-ID: <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:14:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7xpoz.A.bNC.8BQWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:14:20 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > .Why does mainstream seem more like > downstream these days? discuss... > Bill > perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since the 1950's andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:29:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F3BE183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 659364.17182.bm@omp1004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=luy882TnS/PyQ4riwmDmWFWRHrciCG87WPIRpid1TZJaaBS29suhYtPXliyK4J63EDVU+zUC0scoTMFeXv2uSPm34gNBz7Y6YV7JAVgekH6UhnPgzhPkGiilp0QM++g782A5fQNOrAdmAFcgsiTciLWhT29OcDuW7dB0mDcGopQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297679367; bh=Fs8Yrus9e9I6Mfa+ytx4oA5etHx3JkVfpQ0FwFlnoX0=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Mf/6uSf+xP5Vcv0jDZ3qfSlmYhvlTrMx0oLIdYgXpLMqthjslHJNH0RRZJZMCpGim/8NzDu36huyDIGa+wkqDx2Z7sr28jfEVIs/CfI/G7gs2/s4AW9a5pnem+Nnkua17tnlbdJI9dp4RZS/QYhSSh/KY7V4MJuRcH8UI/WygXM= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: Rd0eolIVM1km6TEKHhNejXMG3qnpj3O3fGu5TDE0BMzXG6D dEgXBpIJSnC1th7Oc4by_bBCbFxzWJZEGG3obw64aV1rwUVPxfl2BjA36Lxi 317PSuzsT31yD01.QNMLLDosDkU58eOgj6eLZ.Ag8g7JQegwCOzGVbtqIfCO NL8rTD18SicuVmv0UdGM66yle2FLewfXgk3D677OrPWlNeDAMuFpiGNPqKS3 XDl3Dgf9Jm4imYBu4SSXxMg5Jbkx0C78leJXs91trhESuTw3rbv5icRziQnI AnnWW3qet X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--602900681 Message-Id: <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:29:22 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2O4TSB.A.OlC.IQQWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:29:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--602900681 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 year olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write about it. The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't need us :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:14, andy butler wrote: > William Walker wrote: > >> .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss... >> Bill > > perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed > since the 1950's > > andy > --Apple-Mail-1--602900681 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 = year olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write = about it.

The real Avant Garde is out there, it just = don't need us :)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 10:14, andy butler wrote:

William Walker wrote:

.Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these = days? discuss...
Bill

perhaps = because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since the = 1950's

andy


= --Apple-Mail-1--602900681-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:36:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8D87183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=62jkOGw38utd+9pnGeEzmIsu6PAnW8BUo783s7g68og=; b=d5lTmYtF8Q6pTyJeJTqBEjRo3hwODoB23XyhARIpLvbw8xPdPjPSPcmjrntGCqfeeu TRB/T8hRv62fp82q2SZE50IzivO5aWqGljOLLXXFkwsZU21tq+Fg/kMze/bBcDZyW9qp 1m4+tb0vjXe/gjYkhXPSV//A68CBi/90BpM7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OEUFkbgFPkTjBHAcfZOJllD33TRXTKxEaZAKTV7p3WXKwkQLZ0I9EPtyt06J2Zzd7b aWyCsqeFVmZOBeZ9G4y06uZI1fV1X6B59aTaFsTkt/e8xXDr35YUZeKJQiWh+WOTbQM0 70x3qc5a/yMBAInZGzoejyqzc58x1Y0wFx9uc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:36:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdd8e12070e049c3ba095 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:36:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cdd8e12070e049c3ba095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dubstep is avant garde? On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 year > olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write about it. > > The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't need us :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:14, andy butler wrote: > > William Walker wrote: > > .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss... > Bill > > > perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since the > 1950's > > andy > > > --0015175cdd8e12070e049c3ba095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dubstep is avant garde?=

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Matt S= tevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 year = olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write about it.
The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't need= us :)


On 14 Feb 2011, a= t 10:14, andy butler wrote:

Will= iam Walker wrote:

.Why does = mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss...
Bill

perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since the 1= 950's

andy



--0015175cdd8e12070e049c3ba095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:39:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0E19183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 130126.15636.bm@omp1008.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=M5B0bgDb8KLzu8++jeOEwZIqH4fQTVYvAbuZGtd5z4Datbqax17J1Lummwtt/6D69SnTmGr7FxoH9fDePory2gW0TGIB/+HXI7IPf+QVxoH0A//t0fr5J9KFFnJGuk+ugJWbepCzfwJ/cmhvOSZFF7/TFncG+FeGz6eeM/OJRfM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297679947; bh=jS+EwgAAyVa31B0FzNIpFLtLgg1lhTQvji4X200YsHE=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=3ipuG2TFAPO+VtcHphBr3Tp2scQRLNCzsZcqfo7ul31p6eOj3NfZgxA4PzAlKtuWmiKtIj+yEZZl8SidSr+qsMtd527thGnL+ptOaxskQoIAKJpVTTCHl3+Ge9hgo06WXfBeisvqPX1OhCYx8uKZZ9NF3opGR/lP/S6qJoL1CFs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 6irJhJUVM1mZIuyZtJ1LSE03oDPFQZj.5UxCwvINgJJ9Qkp EgLtbVPPna1RX_F1S3aifkM_VzM7TJ3P1DZ1mClzDiS.AX3TdH0Ovr3SF4h4 KP0_F3vD5v2oHqg6H7fzxyiiYhmAtiAb1L85WrfhEASIHx1lR9su5Ip53EV. INrA53DrxsOJbLW60SYP8ehUmfUBIObLivyVqOFcj8ERLVz9fTn14_w2I61x EgSUkjoNv7phSlXO7lHsPZa8B79spyfkt5WDUyQYhHQOlWkXXkjS8fo4VGad H.Wp_Gyh4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--602320761 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:39:02 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:39:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--602320761 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:36, Doc Rossi wrote: > Dubstep is avant garde? > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > Thing is most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by > 14 year olds via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire > write about it. > > The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't need us :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 10:14, andy butler wrote: > >> William Walker wrote: >> >>> .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? >>> discuss... >>> Bill >> >> perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed >> since the 1950's >> >> andy >> > > --Apple-Mail-2--602320761 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

New = experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids = messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant = Garde.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 10:36, Doc Rossi wrote:

Dubstep is avant = garde?

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at = 11:29 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Thing is = most of the really cutting edge stuff is passed around by 14 year olds = via the web. Dubstep etc then 2-3 yrs later The Wire write about = it.

The real Avant Garde is out there, it just don't = need us :)


On 14 Feb = 2011, at 10:14, andy butler wrote:

William Walker wrote:

.Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? = discuss...
Bill

perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed since = the 1950's

andy

=



= --Apple-Mail-2--602320761-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:56:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B980183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tUNWMTQM2EccMFkKbzmitWQCAZnftDLMoNJyBiWiNss=; b=E5gs2+nUjnYvCw9GygAa5A8N1hA5noqRWyhUJ3i38zUsUyad0fZ8NwX8wiu11//QXX dnJVgeK9UMuiD1+94IzH7sIv1KOGB/OYrZ0VbePEThGribAtzuJl1IjAjsrPaZPhoRWG m65fPielnAcKUddyNsw9TTXA2rygZzFvxBkDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xzszPSGO0Y/tJ/xE4W4VRg5up4AufIFx9AeMkR3mim1CUC4o4CzwSZPgY+AD2GToMt Krtj5/E+zRx1T1c6KgfcRPWD4Y8cH9Mb7/pE6wVUEGDndSe6COsC8uuIluJlwXUXPFuU HkqEUqLIbHv8g28tRG+fc1it5Ro8i8/9YuQjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:56:38 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that led to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of this development was the fall of the record labels about ten years ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire marketing staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way (as in "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each sub genere there soon weren't enough potential customers to support the business idea of a record label. Great days for DJ's though! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 10:58:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53867183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 579797800/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAMOZWE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMl13IVYVeBI8l X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,468,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="579797800" Message-ID: <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:58:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <66HsJ.A.wcD.arQWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:58:34 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM, andy butler wrote: >> The EDP keeps track of where you are in the beat. >> The Gordius can't know when to Quantise. > > Well probably quantise is the wrong word, effectively the same though. > Just to be clear what I mean... > Im imagining THIS scenario. > > Two hits of a gordius pedal set to RECORD defines the tempo of > course, midi clock is sent out of EDP (via a merge probably) BACK to > the Gordius. > A switch on Gordius can be pressed,at ANY time, and.. because gordius > is listening to midi clock IN.. WAITS before for a division of the > beat. Lets say an 8th beat.. (this gap might be anything smaller than > an 8th.) It sends out an UNDO command.. then waits for the same > division (8th) and then fires off another UNDO, waits an 8th... UNDO > etc etc as long as I keep my foot down.. I release.. its stops... > OR.. A more complex sequence or MULTS INSERTS SPEED CHANGES, REVERSES, > in a loop, all divided by a preset division. ok, here's the bottom line Gordius can't on it's own wait to start on the beat. Because it just counts midi *ticks*. That's all it does. Look up what a midi *tick* is....then you'll understand. 24 ticks per beat, or similar. Midi Clock *doesn't* tell the receiving device where the beat is. It's just a stream of identical ticks. If you start the sequence at the right place, it'll run in time. If not, it'll be synced in the out of time position. > in the evening Hilde sang a strange Norwegian song for > the kids... I videoed it.. it was very strange and haunting! Im gonna > make a track out of it.. glitch it up a bit... with her permission Ill > post later... would like to hear the original too! best regards andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 11:22:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCF018347E; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 579810072/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkECAJ6fWE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMhBKTS7hvj2iBJ4NBdgSPJQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,468,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="579810072" Message-ID: <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:22:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids >> messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. Per Boysen wrote: > I'm with Matt on this. sure :-) but what does it mean 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When I wrote a classical guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's > "Genres" are obsolete. so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" hypothesis stands. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 11:27:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5D76183486; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nm8Cx+/1eBiBhI8ONqxVMZqzCsHVMdfNuIdpJIMRInI=; b=r6l8pPlPyY86eM76cd5EZa5hWv39qOB6KKEx8AcHJ0BcbC8AegvIvLO9vc+byBgN8X sr5nupEZh3BrZ8dkgUMvLwgKDTd1IQmjUmzSc906jRtAFkT52Bn+nCAroFFFTRjaYn9e 6g5ZFrmQSPNOqqgKONGaDlWZYj2UhJj0kSNOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xZKmfJuq7Z9OS5UU17vXjEBVlYx1nwAimJkaFkcTKl98QTQp7zzf9SfJlsREjdbKhb JBopDku6VbsOi2xqMFMtGKnfsaRThqMJqsrc84FT8xvKkTUGDI3bsO1zHSOKUuwtC6Js 8sGFRVtE3PtfHV9vRA8GfJLsFHkU8GmhLOdzU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:27:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65dc160d35e0f049c3c53f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:27:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65dc160d35e0f049c3c53f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm with Andy. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens >> wrote: >> >>> New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids >>> messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. >>> >> > Per Boysen wrote: > >> I'm with Matt on this. >> > > sure :-) > but what does it mean > 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's > > 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When > I wrote a classical guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* > was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. > > Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's > > > "Genres" are obsolete. >> > > so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" > hypothesis stands. > > > andy > > --0016e65dc160d35e0f049c3c53f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm with Andy.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 a= t 12:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens
<m= attstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids
messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Gard= e.

Per Boysen wrote:
I'm with Matt on this.

sure :-)
but what does it mean
1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's

2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When
=A0I wrote a classical =A0guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that*
=A0 was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'.=

Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's


"Genres" are obsolete.

so far the "nothing new since the 1950's"
hypothesis stands.


andy


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From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) "Experimental" can't be a "genre" because it has more to do with common expectations than with the sound produced. Of course any beginning musician can be (subjectively) experimental with regard to his/her previous experience but in order to be referred to as experimental in public the musical activities need to in some way go against public expectations and at least break some new territory. The word "experimental" suffers for bad karma in a similar way that "free improvisation" does; i.e. many people think that it means that music does sound in a certain way rather than understanding the word for what it really means (experiment =3D "try out new concepts or ways of doing things" or "a procedure undertaken to make a discovery, test a hypothesis, or demonstrate a known fact") Maybe it is best for a musician to shut up about experimentation and let the listener decide how to label the produced music? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Doc Rossi wrote: > I'm with Andy. > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler > wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kid= s >>>> messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant >>>> Garde. >> >> Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> I'm with Matt on this. >> >> sure :-) >> but what does it mean >> 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's >> >> 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When >> =C2=A0I wrote a classical =C2=A0guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* >> =C2=A0 was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. >> >> Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's >> >> >>> "Genres" are obsolete. >> >> so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" >> hypothesis stands. >> >> >> andy >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 12:17:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2905183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6b5b66a7-4895-4397-a305-ce1bc33a87fa_" X-Originating-IP: [212.219.56.214] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:49 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com>,<7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com>,<4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk>,<6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com>,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 12:17:49.0502 (UTC) FILETIME=[320FADE0:01CBCC41] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:51 +0000 (UTC) --_6b5b66a7-4895-4397-a305-ce1bc33a87fa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coincidentally=2C I've just finished a "free listening" session with my mus= ic students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn about genres.= I was struck by their borderless appreciation of music.=20 How heartening! =20 Peace =20 G =20 > Date: Mon=2C 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like =2C downstream these days= ? > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Mon=2C Feb 14=2C 2011 at 11:39 AM=2C Matt Stevens > wrote: > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids > > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Gard= e. >=20 > I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that > it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that led > to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of > this development was the fall of the record labels about ten years > ago=3B as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as > manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire marketing > staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way (as in > "knowing one's shit"). Also=2C inside each sub genere there soon weren't > enough potential customers to support the business idea of a record > label. Great days for DJ's though! >=20 > Per >=20 = --_6b5b66a7-4895-4397-a305-ce1bc33a87fa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coincidentally=2C I've just finished a "free listening" session with my mus= ic students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn about genres.= I was struck by their borderless appreciation of =3Bmusic.
How heartening!
 =3B
Peace
 =3B
G
 =3B
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: Why d= oes mainstream seem more like =2C downstream these days?
>=3B From: pe= rboysen@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>= =3B
>=3B On Mon=2C Feb 14=2C 2011 at 11:39 AM=2C Matt Stevens
>= =3B <=3Bmattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B Ne= w experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids
&g= t=3B >=3B messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Av= ant Garde.
>=3B
>=3B I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolet= e. The funny part is that
>=3B it actually was the explosive growth of= genres and sub genres that led
>=3B to today's more or less "genre-le= ss" culture. One huge backlash of
>=3B this development was the fall o= f the record labels about ten years
>=3B ago=3B as markets and sub mar= kets for selling music grew just as
>=3B manifold as the genre pletora= it became impossible to hire marketing
>=3B staff that could effectiv= ely promote releases in a credible way (as in
>=3B "knowing one's shit= "). Also=2C inside each sub genere there soon weren't
>=3B enough pote= ntial customers to support the business idea of a record
>=3B label. G= reat days for DJ's though!
>=3B
>=3B Per
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= = --_6b5b66a7-4895-4397-a305-ce1bc33a87fa_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 12:26:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CCC4183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 648052.65923.bm@omp1002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=OUxJlge1eJNtvRz1jXybve3oc5elAh3MNsiIqNInqascBHYpor7S+geCsXSn5PZDGa1dGgpIm5X2oLP0tAhSjJgCRBA+SHCVK2N/48I2o7ynzLRFq0wrBekTAWPGKc63cFk3AG2qmPtzga5pp855x4DiQC76LS8iyIra3E89i5Q= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297686376; bh=8p+W5JSILalXIrgKVHiFqQYW5Gb64lmRFirM5meLW9s=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=riJmEpdJAeDEdo5d4GONlWyuGJkeiBVf3CX/bhINlYbXOERpLJngbrnIXhdSyukRB79j0ohN02eELMANI/oqMnSF6KeLGUQni16PpSoYLmwmzHf9j9TolznZ+ruu1Gwu+ZqM5sBKYFuDVGRrs9zxVwoIFeH7J8/nXgu8k7NnMJg= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: QvF8XSkVM1nCEr.OaYbtW2MpNRaf2iCSscYQAPv6E5upaRg nvSdjugtruiYajRRjXko0V1aejrhNcLPGhEDu1jMN_bZEx9W6a0GLded768J 6xuI_tjBK0dJR9RKzyvM1iqSfLnhGyysdGKbFnOcjXNJ4ODzeENMKK3Gnbnd GEM4EGodp0jn3V2rFKEL.5d61PbhKdVxKc3D_Y2KZ4xNAGc4V5uJRNYhtkEu tYUuqN34dmbLnwDXfKFULYzgf9_ECTYVq6rHq4Wfk8UzZ4NFIqaVWgk4gDTO gXxCkw6nl9NOYzhMBF._0Z5Y1x2Hy_cD9Hq8p X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com>,<7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com>,<4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk>,<6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com>,,, Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--595892959 Message-Id: <1B236145-07E0-4851-8F1E-7A5D9879022F@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:26:10 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:26:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--595892959 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Genre boundaries are defo coming down along with a lot of genre prejudice. For under 25's this seems less relevant. When i was a lad there were real perceived boundaries of cool - and if you said you liked prog in the NME it was a a very bad idea :) Now mass media has fallen by the wayside to an extent this is less important for listeners. Personally i never cared - i just wanted to hear a decent chord progression :) Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Coincidentally, I've just finished a "free listening" session with > my music students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn > about genres. I was struck by their borderless appreciation of music. > How heartening! > > Peace > > G > > > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100 > > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream > these days? > > From: perboysen@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens > > wrote: > > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right > now - kids > > > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the > Avant Garde. > > > > I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that > > it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres > that led > > to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of > > this development was the fall of the record labels about ten years > > ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as > > manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire marketing > > staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way > (as in > > "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each sub genere there soon > weren't > > enough potential customers to support the business idea of a record > > label. Great days for DJ's though! > > > > Per > > --Apple-Mail-1--595892959 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Genre boundaries are defo = coming down along with a lot of genre prejudice. For under 25's this = seems less relevant. When i was a lad there were real perceived = boundaries of cool - and if you said you liked prog in the NME  it = was a a very bad idea :) 

Now mass media has = fallen by the wayside to an extent this is less important for listeners. = Personally i never cared - i just wanted to hear a decent chord = progression :)

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Coincidentally, I've just finished a "free listening" session = with my music students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn = about genres. I was struck by their borderless appreciation = of music. 
How = heartening!
 
Peace
 
G
 
> Date: = Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream = seem more like , downstream these days?
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: = Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> 
> On Mon, Feb 14, = 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens
> <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
> > New experimental music is happening = all over the world right now - kids
> > messing with tech - = they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde.
> 
> I'm with Matt on = this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that
> it actually = was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that led
> to = today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of
> = this development was the fall of the record labels about ten = years
> ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew = just as
> manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to = hire marketing
> staff that could effectively promote releases in = a credible way (as in
> "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each = sub genere there soon weren't
> enough potential customers to = support the business idea of a record
> label. Great days for DJ's = though!
> 
>= Per
> 

= --Apple-Mail-1--595892959-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 12:33:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69DFE183464; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HN65+T1I329XaEPiCF9srrz5SO9A/rFhT+Mw5CRdZyI=; b=lQZA2yhlR+5fru4Le/szrWHRaoiMkH7317fuNqcH/ry2yXn2Rjr4pvObGwTn42IO2k km+kwYI4O+SdP4fOT/OVt6yDTboXHLj+ftcuD+oQ8Qbv9a6BL3SdBdfiS0OowA1REjY4 LfmXuYz/SY53YEGkQGpYjBaUAKnQFD5SKVl30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LSM9L+ul1kBHiXtPOzCscdQlrNXN3mOE6X79Lktm24FiHqWlAtv78FdHHDlB7rxTPn G5Wgk6uYNSXHIyj7TC7dHqxZfBJiK1m+7FmZGB1z7fM6CgArw8DayRisWO3Ud/bbHE9t g5sR2hWAC2OTdoeyhXsXFs46w06IJh4vHOJzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1B236145-07E0-4851-8F1E-7A5D9879022F@btinternet.com> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <1B236145-07E0-4851-8F1E-7A5D9879022F@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:33:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Doc Rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630eaa5c68fc6049c3d3ff8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:33:05 +0000 (UTC) --00163630eaa5c68fc6049c3d3ff8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm still getting a lot of flack from booking agents because I "cross boundaries" and from reviewers because I mix repertoires. It seems that there are still people who don't know what to make of someone who simply plays music, just as there are people who still buy CDs. Granted, I work in conservative areas - traditional music, baroque music, rock... On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Genre boundaries are defo coming down along with a lot of genre prejudice. > For under 25's this seems less relevant. When i was a lad there were real > perceived boundaries of cool - and if you said you liked prog in the NME it > was a a very bad idea :) > > Now mass media has fallen by the wayside to an extent this is less > important for listeners. Personally i never cared - i just wanted to hear a > decent chord progression :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > Coincidentally, I've just finished a "free listening" session with my music > students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn about genres. I > was struck by their borderless appreciation of music. > How heartening! > > Peace > > G > > > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100 > > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? > > From: perboysen@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens > > wrote: > > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids > > > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant > Garde. > > > > I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that > > it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that led > > to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of > > this development was the fall of the record labels about ten years > > ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as > > manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire marketing > > staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way (as in > > "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each sub genere there soon weren't > > enough potential customers to support the business idea of a record > > label. Great days for DJ's though! > > > > Per > > > > > --00163630eaa5c68fc6049c3d3ff8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm still getting a lot of flack from booking agents because I "cr= oss boundaries" =A0and from reviewers because I mix repertoires. It se= ems that there are still people who don't know what to make of someone = who simply plays music, just as there are people who still buy CDs. Granted= , I work in conservative areas - traditional music, baroque music, rock...<= br>
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matt Steven= s <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Genre boundaries are defo coming down a= long with a lot of genre prejudice. For under 25's this seems less rele= vant. When i was a lad there were real perceived boundaries of cool - and i= f you said you liked prog in the NME =A0it was a a very bad idea :)=A0

Now mass media has fallen by the wayside to an extent this i= s less important for listeners. Personally i never cared - i just wanted to= hear a decent chord progression :)


On 14 Feb 2011, a= t 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Coincidentally, I've just finished a "f= ree listening" session with my music students playing favourite tracks= - they don't give a damn about genres. I was struck by their borderles= s appreciation of=A0music.=A0
How heartening!
=A0
Peace
=A0
G
=A0
> Date: Mon, 14 Fe= b 2011 11:56:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more li= ke , downstream these days?
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=A0
&= gt; On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens
> <mattstevensguitar= @btinternet.com> wrote:
> > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now = - kids
> > messing with tech - they don't care about definitio= ns of the Avant Garde.
>=A0
> I'm with Matt on= this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that
> it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that led=
> to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One hu= ge backlash of
> this development was the fall of the record labels a= bout ten years
> ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as
>= manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire marketing
&g= t; staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way (as in > "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each sub genere ther= e soon weren't
> enough potential customers to support the busine= ss idea of a record
> label. Great days for DJ's though!
><= span>=A0
> Per
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--00163630eaa5c68fc6049c3d3ff8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 12:40:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A378183463; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 424693.41236.bm@omp1006.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WuGN5Lexm+9pKdqdCF6ydLYW3r291VPrT/Zik7HFROrTXD54MQJM/b1vK6pXzIvZel1fcUQXscFI/1mVmfk4LC+Y2G3kW0BpUMYEgqHVHMVneYVUPk2uB84I/3uOtnaYgjU89L2e43Zaspyhpy1KhlnTWTNWlJ32tnhJYlGOpZo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297687245; bh=9CwJJToATPKzHvJ95T0FVVBYPOKh4uDT/QGA9GjFPZE=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=g6cRzA+PRGS78DHsuE/D3cBc0zYl1DQLPc2uLOO6xr7pN5814Y/Od17tVSRLzvhdeBjqmrAnU2CbrF6p+D7Tnu2EmVLwoFku6pSgVq4OMg16oLCWQN0PdH/eL/vz9Un/rSvnR8yBUc1kc5THBWHT2vzj0kX8gPHBTUudFjl5ox4= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: chR22k0VM1kW5GaM4pyDLYUETMHzkpI.Sqww3jfjnPbjyNR DiL9gre0gCi1x9rUane5n7VDbMg_DjGv_o8K4BabFDc0L0RubEqiVHpti1Ac 0BdCl9DtLMum2c2nUgYbfiYShbbBb2UNexcyUUoaTEjMPpqHum1Ywsojk1Sw 9RDYEyZMGZ0u5He2wxWTozG.6U0FS5RDSnahVAYjf8Kxmnq1aRb4WucpQE8u MliS4oPh_cc_APuqEgxMHJyfwdH0owgnbNNYBXlR40rwtJ6Kodpp3LSZQjRS .JM3kdPE109dGc0IT X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <1B236145-07E0-4851-8F1E-7A5D9879022F@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--595024271 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:40:39 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:40:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--595024271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Most of the gigs I'm doing now are supporting progressive rock type audiences who are LOVELY people - supported Barclay James Harvest just before christmas with a guitar and a DL4 doing stuff in odd timings and I'm doing one with Fish of Marillion - they like having me as an opener as i just turn up and only need one lead from the desk :) - really supportive audience. So although my stuff isn't really of that genre it still works as they tend to have been exposed to Fripp etc SO while the genre (prog in this case) is still relevant for the older audience for the under 25s there isn't the stigma that my generation of 30-40 year olds have about it - lots of younger people into "progressive/post rock/odd" music that don;t care about the genre see Field Music, Squarepusher, Radiohead etc Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:33, Doc Rossi wrote: > I'm still getting a lot of flack from booking agents because I > "cross boundaries" and from reviewers because I mix repertoires. > It seems that there are still people who don't know what to make of > someone who simply plays music, just as there are people who still > buy CDs. Granted, I work in conservative areas - traditional music, > baroque music, rock... > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > Genre boundaries are defo coming down along with a lot of genre > prejudice. For under 25's this seems less relevant. When i was a > lad there were real perceived boundaries of cool - and if you said > you liked prog in the NME it was a a very bad idea :) > > Now mass media has fallen by the wayside to an extent this is less > important for listeners. Personally i never cared - i just wanted > to hear a decent chord progression :) > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote: > >> Coincidentally, I've just finished a "free listening" session with >> my music students playing favourite tracks - they don't give a >> damn about genres. I was struck by their borderless appreciation >> of music. >> How heartening! >> >> Peace >> >> G >> >> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100 >> > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream >> these days? >> > From: perboysen@gmail.com >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens >> > wrote: >> > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right >> now - kids >> > > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the >> Avant Garde. >> > >> > I'm with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is >> that >> > it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres >> that led >> > to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge backlash of >> > this development was the fall of the record labels about ten years >> > ago; as markets and sub markets for selling music grew just as >> > manifold as the genre pletora it became impossible to hire >> marketing >> > staff that could effectively promote releases in a credible way >> (as in >> > "knowing one's shit"). Also, inside each sub genere there soon >> weren't >> > enough potential customers to support the business idea of a record >> > label. Great days for DJ's though! >> > >> > Per >> > > > --Apple-Mail-2--595024271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Most of the gigs I'm doing now are supporting progressive rock type = audiences who are LOVELY people - supported Barclay James Harvest just = before christmas with a guitar and a DL4 doing stuff in odd timings and = I'm doing one with Fish of Marillion - they like having me as an opener = as i just turn up and only need one lead from the desk :) - really = supportive audience. So although my stuff isn't really of that genre it = still works as they tend to have been exposed to Fripp = etc 

SO while the genre (prog in this case) is = still relevant for the older audience for the under 25s there isn't the = stigma that my generation of 30-40 year olds have about it - lots of = younger people into "progressive/post rock/odd" music that don;t care = about the genre see Field Music, Squarepusher, Radiohead = etc 

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 12:33, Doc Rossi wrote:

I'm still = getting a lot of flack from booking agents because I "cross boundaries" =  and from reviewers because I mix repertoires. It seems that there = are still people who don't know what to make of someone who simply plays = music, just as there are people who still buy CDs. Granted, I work in = conservative areas - traditional music, baroque music, rock...
=
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Matt = Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Genre = boundaries are defo coming down along with a lot of genre prejudice. For = under 25's this seems less relevant. When i was a lad there were real = perceived boundaries of cool - and if you said you liked prog in the NME =  it was a a very bad idea :) 

Now mass = media has fallen by the wayside to an extent this is less important for = listeners. Personally i never cared - i just wanted to hear a decent = chord progression :)


On 14 Feb = 2011, at 12:17, Gareth Whittock wrote:

Coincidentally, = I've just finished a "free listening" session with my music students = playing favourite tracks - they don't give a damn about genres. I was = struck by their borderless appreciation = of music. 
How = heartening!
 
Peace
 
G
 
> Date: = Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:56:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream = seem more like , downstream these days?
> From: perboysen@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>&nb= sp;
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt = Stevens
> <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
= > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right = now - kids
> > messing with tech - they don't care about = definitions of the Avant Garde.
> 
> I'm = with Matt on this. "Genres" are obsolete. The funny part is that
= > it actually was the explosive growth of genres and sub genres that = led
> to today's more or less "genre-less" culture. One huge = backlash of
> this development was the fall of the record labels = about ten years
> ago; as markets and sub markets for selling = music grew just as
> manifold as the genre pletora it became = impossible to hire marketing
> staff that could effectively = promote releases in a credible way (as in
> "knowing one's = shit"). Also, inside each sub genere there soon weren't
> enough = potential customers to support the business idea of a record
> = label. Great days for DJ's though!
> 
> = Per
> 



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= --Apple-Mail-2--595024271-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 13:57:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F04B183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297691866; bh=AATjVCiBUrpzA1qlBdRzvKG1CFbbEv2+tmotDLKExhc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=krPMNdDuelcSg+m9UdSG8OkdXTHfc8Yf9ya0PgzUMP3nV0pX8mQRdZQ17Kx3yS4/9hPRB9sBLy+tL9GXtaVn8WoMVZTZ90UKc7L310KRIRoVvP85nI9bBUE6pysWtaPBLBaET9Rd+teeLbEIlKxbV9yaGn3YxWMoSy24Gr54Ius= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RCtM9T32I/geY63P5+7Ab9akDH8YnPGPj449esjDm3brLRiLUiMAPIEolJ6LH7BwFVTrbhttES+C045GOXbzDNhTqfjKmA3W0H17/sQhEz0yJIpxfpRW6VIQOxg/ASzMm0EeWbow+1VeQkqoW3vPTg2NRAncqM33kN5gMthJUes=; Message-ID: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BbcKZTUVM1mC68QOTqO3NTpn1qlJ9.QVPclFIsQiz0EQyX3 j9WpO09rSCEAU9tC.NevAWk.2thFJlfL1SRiNAjkQz98fHZxHwB5ERzRyJqN EjmtEBxnwOO8fccKWH6uoRDI2VsHzp6pv1pCuFQAZfY6Ij_kBkm3NhUMWTN9 xrRrsFSIeApuFQSv05P.qxS8mmEifBfNCETGMT1nGVw1gpS6EAu_ypC3ViGG uTf502LBITd8wMy5QGFtBFUD66HBrF4dcBHx9UJ0eIhPegaTV3dNB.g3JgA4 ._2xNtbEXtT2tpm8u29uIG4pjem.48rLbG.vLloZqsf59YLPuuHhGDQt1lr9 MrhHwGiVqFILBNizZ.Cdwi_3ksxnK6GaNddDseytmvJjK7Grbcm7px0YVew8 - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:57:45 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-908557021-1297691865=:58268" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-908557021-1297691865=:58268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the mainstream = is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band Pat Methe= ny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying "world music" influen= ces? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the pike.=20 --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi wrote: From: Doc Rossi Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM I'm with Andy. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler wrot= e: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. Per Boysen wrote: I'm with Matt on this.=20 sure :-) but what does it mean=20 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When =A0I wrote a classical =A0guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* =A0 was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's "Genres" are obsolete.=20 so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" hypothesis stands. andy =0A=0A=0A --0-908557021-1297691865=:58268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mains= tream". Who in the mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did w= ith his earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with= varying "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming do= wn the pike.

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi <docittern@gma= il.com> wrote:

From: Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>
Su= bject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days?
T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, = 6:27 AM

I'm with Andy.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, and= y butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 = at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar= @btinternet.com> wrote:
New experimental musi= c is happening all over the world right now - kids
messing with tech - t= hey don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde.

Per Boysen wrote:
I'm with Matt on this= .

sure :-)
but what does it mean
1) Experimenta= l as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's

2) Experimental as in = the music is in some way an experiment. When
 I wrote a classical &= nbsp;guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that*
  was certainly an ex= periment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'.

Varese was messing with = tech in the 1950's


"Genres" are obsolete= .

so far the "nothing new since the 1950's"
hypothe= sis stands.


andy



=0A=0A --0-908557021-1297691865=:58268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 14:29:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A84D183466; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DQ6DVjYjWeXoorIYPPkh/VIRj6t8+zl6MiZm/2gPO6s=; b=khzlFjC2IjwBpgjP7x7MOF1nFUAfO9ceBDEZ372F/HR4NzyJ3Rhu54fGxOK8cQKlUF PwYHMBbLUtGJYCVkfbYjwNhK6DGikjEKnDYOiZb287q6f/xZP3kZP78vcGGV+XSeH3RQ Gj0CDtqFLLOiDX7d8/P+m90AlLQRuuk7qDxw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JxTocsdpGT39KcCTTkORo0cAApT3UZ2lTQwoNwj0as/x3VV5MCVf1NcN3sJf7JKZ7S BBFIwwNOZ//3bvK3vFqkdbGrS4EARbbCTFlS5kviGuATjhGk4t8jZqy8su0o0CjqegBg KKqRa7TrOTtpJNnbrGPEbSnKCJl5vOAehyeyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:29:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043449e94b269049c3edeaa Resent-Message-ID: <6YiHlD.A.ZZB.wwTWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3043449e94b269049c3edeaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down". I've always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, Dark Angel etc. I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams. There's something good in every stream. -Petri- 2011/2/14 Paul Richards > Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the mainstream > is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band Pat > Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying "world music" > influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the pike. > > --- On *Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi * wrote: > > > From: Doc Rossi > > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM > > > I'm with Andy. > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler > > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens > > > wrote: > > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. > > > Per Boysen wrote: > > I'm with Matt on this. > > > sure :-) > but what does it mean > 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's > > 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When > I wrote a classical guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* > was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. > > Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's > > > "Genres" are obsolete. > > > so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" > hypothesis stands. > > > andy > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3043449e94b269049c3edeaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down".

I'v= e always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, Dark Ange= l etc.

I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams.

There's something good in every stream.

-Petri-

2011/2/14 Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>=




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--20cf3043449e94b269049c3edeaa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 14:32:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD74E183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 24437.77905.bm@omp1007.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=5F0zhBAdJNgaMM3FLqHadqHt0BD0kDn5c5euPzwqQhpWJIKZfFLumV3D3L03aQk8rkhWHON93sU1n2QHBax6MM4JWUILg3331RQnonvWCaRT11GQLlaNf5oWH5z5mVVe6eTjhoWNq9jbZp80cV6NHpd+1lGM+kgoOr03etoJvBQ= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297693935; bh=cv3ZAF9FHIYF0nXilWXaTONr5Rb+Og77dfY4XVaDW9o=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n//bML28/bzhnIQRG7M+Vw6UDiPsvhYSTUZmmXoW+dVnPUpS7tEwPhVMXuOYHJZyFrpFUUKK6012ZIW+Bz/J6U+rarPx1c8XlmvPkf4yxGGgSA89uyUC1VlHg6KSU6my0CrbU3Q0sLLoHDeGOTPvmLzDBXMsuycX1W2QyIj8iW8= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 8lZ4QzoVM1mdG5RX8YCWSA7xmIJbHFpZREjdPCePzjdOSSu iOhRMMPB_iaZVQwskJeCnFjj1O0DvtSJ9Xbf1tZC5_knEMqKx4V_ihJ6VbhJ X4XSJQ1aEOj40YEzXoxjilBeKDYqxI4FJCzJxtqVcukoKNnk0kPKb4npYyAA 4PQS9ftlEqTG.NY8rLraXB5MQJ5fA1LkOdkdcPPhVrR5lMgP3pxJqXE9l_R0 D64KFG7ZPehOaUUDP7RBcGGk0NYz6p7ntk5fWa7TeqVczLcKHcowohD.75EH 9mwUg9r8gskWYCOAg X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--588333512 Message-Id: <2B27D7A3-546F-44BE-A678-2DA12CF7B6BB@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:32:09 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:32:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12--588333512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Agreed - to be honest there are so many channels of media from blogs to podcasts to twitter etc its hard to define what the mainstream is anymore apart from Pop Idol type contests Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 14:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down". > > I've always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, > Exploited, Dark Angel etc. > > I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams. > > There's something good in every stream. > > -Petri- > > 2011/2/14 Paul Richards > Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the > mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his > earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with > varying "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything > coming down the pike. > > --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi wrote: > > From: Doc Rossi > > Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these > days? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM > > > I'm with Andy. > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler > wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - > kids > messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant > Garde. > > Per Boysen wrote: > I'm with Matt on this. > > sure :-) > but what does it mean > 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's > > 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When > I wrote a classical guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* > was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. > > Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's > > > "Genres" are obsolete. > > so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" > hypothesis stands. > > > andy > > > > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert > Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must > lead." -Charles Bukowski- > --Apple-Mail-12--588333512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Agreed - to be honest there are so many channels of media from blogs to = podcasts to twitter etc its hard to define what the mainstream is = anymore apart from Pop Idol type contests

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 14:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

Latest = love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down".

I've always loved = Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, Dark Angel = etc.

I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams.
=
There's something good in every stream.

-Petri-

2011/2/14 Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the m= ainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band= Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying "world= music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the= pike.

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM


I'm with Andy.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt = Stevens
<mattstev= ensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
New experimental music is happening all= over the world right now - kids
messing with tech - they don't care= about definitions of the Avant Garde.

Per Boysen wrote:
I'm with Matt on this.

sure :-)
but what does it mean
1) Experimental as in the ge= nre named by Cage in the 1950's

2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When
= =A0I wrote a classical =A0guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that*
=A0 w= as certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'.
Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's


"Genres" are obsolete.

so far the "nothing new since the 1950's"
hypothesis stands.


andy
= Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the = mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier = band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying = "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the = pike.

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
=

From: Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>

= Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these = days?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: = Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM


I'm with Andy.

On Mon, Feb 14, = 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
=
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens
<mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
=
New experimental music is = happening all over the world right now - kids
messing with tech - = they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde.
=

Per Boysen wrote:
I'm with Matt on this. =

sure :-)
but what does it mean
1) = Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's

2) = Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. = When
 I wrote a classical  guitar piece in rondo sonata = form *that*
  was certainly an experiment...wasn't very = groundbreaking tho'.

Varese was messing with tech in the = 1950's


"Genres" are = obsolete.

so far the "nothing new since the = 1950's"
hypothesis stands.


andy


=

=



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
= ---------------------------------------------------
"Only become = professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert = Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some = people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." = -Charles Bukowski-


= --Apple-Mail-12--588333512-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:14:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E268183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <556810.60199.qm@web36706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110214092715.205860@gmx.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <20110214092715.205860@gmx.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:14:03 -0500 Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvMWeT8kkh3oMOcToyfQoRSv6rHtQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 15:14:42.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7D3BC80:01CBCC59] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:14:43 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 14, 2011, at 4:27 AM, "Buzap Buzap" wrote: > This year's contest sounds much more mature... It was cool, I was recovering from shoulder surgery when at NAMM and the ven= ue was packed so I told them I was a reporter for a looping discussion list s= o we sat in the VIP, so I guess I should report, but kinda did already.=20 Shlomo killed it, pushing rc50 button with hands, was still bleeding next da= y from cut from slamming the pedal Violin guy awesome, but songs were limited to five mins and he had several t= ransitions that didnt seem normal.=20 Singer chick was awesome, never looked down once.=20 Japanese girl funny as hell and quite complicated looping. Dont think she un= derstood enuf english to know if she even won.=20 Beatboxer with five mics a disaster, two or three mishaps, start overs.=20 First guy with bug setup played basically a rock piece, very nice.=20 Dubfx did demo and killed it, also freaked when mc called him a dj.=20 Ok, feel less guilty now lol Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:19:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD0D7183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Looping Grammy References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:19:00 -0500 Thread-Topic: Looping Grammy Thread-Index: AcvMWpnuWY2wIE8XT6C5N36o6J4nyA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 15:19:42.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A9C5250:01CBCC5A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Didnt get to watch the show, no Tv, who won the Looping Grammy? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:52:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749B0183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297698732; bh=1T1qdf4m9A1ZjzuWoWLbrOekOHHtoVUNM8GVX2dxV1w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kwuSPzZpEQ7EwXOAjN4a5uKun/byMA/MvH3y+L/2Dxa+myAU8i4rXfi1Hl1QSyjFAckuCyImFamM1SQr1utBXXHrh4pRlWGF1E+kyV3UTkImZKcbDm4WzroVHwONMEefgD0q6Gg2sRKwqH50v9S/qZdbsoHGolvvjYo4UL4KFh8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cy/95Hhs1eqiqSwccqTZmomHbfZnNvS6rSrWkW+9eBmqmn8KzkVMrUjMCI3k2FWYZYbQqzmunowIAfptgrJqXKaDGDaua7IoyetjFu+3PgACqZBzf3HvvaUo16S+MxwTvMCb1OdN1jtpp10zGOTVlSeYVro9nPwQd2GjKc1Z1n4=; Message-ID: <963751.29265.qm@web36701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xgjTID4VM1kDQVeAnXVHqy1efFm.v_DjV7zI4FAGN9njavI ltQD8_wXrBAI76MUhkuOPgsOwnEVK8j18FCmscB7wSyKEcQCPJ8x_0qVZtDo UHDyFZtVRaYoI8Y5.uVCZSxe0gDNwsrqSwKGANI6Dj0Q7IOUg5yAcIoCpvqh aAVHr.TS270bNUwnswVKidXq6C9St.KxKbUrAl1XZjRZVECm2VtPeJvbYg_L RjV9aXJGKMAJRgRAw2SPs95aWYXG8idJ67K41pYJmyuz1RSMbFjqc6dnP0PZ R.eU4.311863btJtFeMsIQpwRsQbKL72ELlnrUNLB9caFih5PXoksFT8gduq Xv6gFAXsNmANNOVYa47YKAJ2eJoPl8xPD5_WZ91G5MdOmoWU6xUScX4YTFwk - X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:52:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2B27D7A3-546F-44BE-A678-2DA12CF7B6BB@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-80578981-1297698732=:29265" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:52:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-80578981-1297698732=:29265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Clarification: MAINSTREAM as opposed to EXPERIMENTAL. --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Matt Stevens wrote: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:32 AM Agreed - to be honest there are so many channels of media from blogs to pod= casts to twitter etc its hard to define what the mainstream is anymore apar= t from Pop Idol type contests Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 14:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote: Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down".=20 I've always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, Dark A= ngel etc. I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams. There's something good in every stream. -Petri- 2011/2/14 Paul Richards Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the mainstream = is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band Pat Methe= ny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying "world music" influen= ces? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the pike.=20 --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi wrote: From: Doc Rossi Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:27 AM I'm with Andy. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler wrot= e: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: New experimental music is happening all over the world right now - kids messing with tech - they don't care about definitions of the Avant Garde. Per Boysen wrote: I'm with Matt on this.=20 sure :-) but what does it mean=20 1) Experimental as in the genre named by Cage in the 1950's 2) Experimental as in the music is in some way an experiment. When =A0I wrote a classical =A0guitar piece in rondo sonata form *that* =A0 was certainly an experiment...wasn't very groundbreaking tho'. Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's "Genres" are obsolete.=20 so far the "nothing new since the 1950's" hypothesis stands. andy --=20 Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Ch= arles Bukowski- =0A=0A=0A =0A______________________________________________________________= ______________________=0ADon't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the foreca= st=0Awith the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.=0Ahttp://tools.search.yahoo.c= om/shortcuts/#loc_weather --0-80578981-1297698732=:29265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Clarification: MAINSTREAM as opposed to EXPER= IMENTAL.

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguit= ar@btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btintern= et.com>
Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream = these days?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, Feb= ruary 14, 2011, 9:32 AM

Agreed - to be honest there are so many channels of= media from blogs to podcasts to twitter etc its hard to define what the ma= instream is anymore apart from Pop Idol type contests

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, at 14:29, Petri Lahtinen wrote:

Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down".
I've always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, D= ark Angel etc.

I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams.
There's something good in every stream.

-Petri-

2011/2/14 Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who i= n the mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his earli= er band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with varying "wor= ld music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the pike. =

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

From: Doc Rossi <docittern@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more= like , downstream these days?
To: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 6:2= 7 AM


I'm with Andy.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wro= te:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Matt Ste= vens
<mattstevensguit= ar@btinternet.com> wrote:
New experimental music is happening all ov= er the world right now - kids
messing with tech - they don't care about = definitions of the Avant Garde.

Per Boysen= wrote:
I'm with Matt on this.
sure :-)
but what does it mean
1) Experimental as in the genre nam= ed by Cage in the 1950's

2) Experimental as in the music is in some = way an experiment. When
 I wrote a classical  guitar piece in = rondo sonata form *that*
  was certainly an experiment...wasn't ver= y groundbreaking tho'.

Varese was messing with tech in the 1950's

"Genres" are obsolete.
so far the "nothing new since the 1950's"
hypothesis stands.


andy




=

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com=
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/= petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
----------------= -----------------------------------
"Only become professional musician i= f there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
----------------------------------= -----------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives= they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



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Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --0-80578981-1297698732=:29265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:54:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68145183473; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297698858; bh=pVYeCiPv4ZoHkoen4ligihE3/Mbvypw4KOCYwj4t91c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VdiBfz8eR1EpD89a+zkU2Nzm9QnmQEXe7ouEx0jiaFDfdvpu7ci5zG3vGuC48+Eh2eWEeml7vB7JZCYlji3B+OctSCB7ZdK0eKNOKaxgmeKIh5xPlmOiktpgzForGr4Hcp2tFIMi7hM+VfakJysJUMsRbNZOiUzV6hLeNj1Z5aI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FfMuzwBIBxhPqRYfKl+7qP06LDiJz4x2i6L2ChT7kS8lceNO5jUZCtPEi8Jtpwk/bdb4TkX0lViDW1h/JgPtlN8Y4FWd0IlYz/7eKf/xy9mMbPVqFGQ9JOGQJCBLr10NN1c98HUcsmD8iAggPsmGMcPi/q2lDyF9JkGR0mxSeU4=; Message-ID: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Oh2jey8VM1lt3hAgIJPxonufFUv4N20kCi9kbJ_2Ub0ZKGR BPaA5Au2XtmKSMgISy4IA9fwqpz7IDEhY9EaUnzD7irIPsjo2Cj_OZEcResf 3FGfTdkcsiBphFvRZ2VlQ0_lCeOWBUWQf_kfOaa6pdcMJJXIYRQEXQyJuNS0 MLtGD7Z3O5MHSSuN.G5mxQjsekjzBEju8BOvyPtxWB1VUYWAG6oMDw0diM4d 1n_6daJuU75MpzRZfBhfcshLZ0qIFI9NsEZsu8GbYDx22VyODlh8VWR6QYdN aTUMwH.E.TxfASM3CgzPwCWh.aNts5Q2w636lxCDLOA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:54:17 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-723127626-1297698857=:84202" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:54:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-723127626-1297698857=:84202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Shlomo killed it, pushing rc50 button with hands, was still bleeding next = day from cut from slamming the pedal) =A0 Again, how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds effectively and = energetically? Art? --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Andy Owens wrote: From: Andy Owens Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:14 AM On Feb 14, 2011, at 4:27 AM, "Buzap Buzap" wrote: > This year's contest sounds much more mature... It was cool, I was recovering from shoulder surgery when at NAMM and the ve= nue was packed so I told them I was a reporter for a looping discussion lis= t so we sat in the VIP, so I guess I should report, but kinda did already.= =20 Shlomo killed it, pushing rc50 button with hands, was still bleeding next d= ay from cut from slamming the pedal Violin guy awesome, but songs were limited to five mins and he had several = transitions that didnt seem normal.=20 Singer chick was awesome, never looked down once.=20 Japanese girl funny as hell and quite complicated looping. Dont think she u= nderstood enuf english to know if she even won.=20 Beatboxer with five mics a disaster, two or three mishaps, start overs.=20 First guy with bug setup played basically a rock piece, very nice.=20 Dubfx did demo and killed it, also freaked when mc called him a dj.=20 Ok, feel less guilty now lol Andy o =0A=0A=0A --0-723127626-1297698857=:84202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(Shlomo killed it, pushing rc50 button with hands, was still b= leeding next day from cut from slamming the pedal)
 
Again, how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds effectively= and energetically? Art?



--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Andy Owens = <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:14 AM

On Feb 14, 2011, at 4:27 AM, "Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> This yea= r's contest sounds much more mature...

It was cool, I was recovering= from shoulder surgery when at NAMM and the venue was packed so I told them= I was a reporter for a looping discussion list so we sat in the VIP, so I = guess I should report, but kinda did already.

Shlomo killed it, pus= hing rc50 button with hands, was still bleeding next day from cut from slam= ming the pedal

Violin guy awesome, but songs were limited to five mi= ns and he had several transitions that didnt seem normal.

Singer ch= ick was awesome, never looked down once.

Japanese girl funny as hel= l and quite complicated looping. Dont think she understood enuf english to = know if she even won.

Beatboxer with five mics a disaster, two or three mishaps, start overs.

First guy with bug setup played basica= lly a rock piece, very nice.

Dubfx did demo and killed it, also fre= aked when mc called him a dj.

Ok, feel less guilty now lol

A= ndy o



=0A=0A --0-723127626-1297698857=:84202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:55:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4567E183464; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aq6X3xGBaukA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Ofk2akmD6XNrtQ1DxhoA:9 a=PIBg4Q1N3dvTwWpqY0UA:7 a=iKQsLzVcOqp2-F8B4tggiE68YW8A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-Id: <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:55:19 -0800 References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Many good points being made. But, the original question doesn't seem to be asking about the state =20 of "avant-garde" or "experimental" music so much as it is addressing =20 the other side of the issue: "popular music" . . . the "mainstream." Perhaps "mainstream" seems like "downstream" because the cynical =20 industrial machinery behind creating each new mainstream "next big =20 thing" itself never seems to change very much. It only seems to get more efficient and exacting at seamlessly =20 creating new clones of things that were already mega-successful in =20 strict money-making terms. This decade's latest blonde bimbette slut-singer (Lady Gaga) is much =20 like last decade's (Madonna - or whoever). This week's teenage pretty-boy heart-throb idol (Justin Bieber) is not =20= substantively different than last week's or last year's (Justin =20 Timberlake). This year's country boy with a guitar, a big hat, an American flag, =20 and a enormous tour bus . . . or this era's dangerous outlaw urban bad =20= boy "gangsta" in oversized shorts and backwards hat hardly represent =20 new wrinkles on what went before them either. The greedy maw of the machinery behind the process that develops them, =20= gives birth to them, and then sucks them dry, also delivers to their =20 immediate replacements in an ever faster stream of salacious =20 odiousness without even batting a fake eyelash. The basic changes seems to be only the most incremental surface =20 changes to already established, proven successful, forms. The sluts get a little sluttier, the pretty boys get a little =20 prettier, the cowboy hats (and their flags) get a lot bigger, and the =20= gangstas get more "dangerous" and mock defiant. The mainstream seems more like downstream because it actually is - =20 none of this entertainment industry stuff has anything to do with Art. Certainly these folks are creative, artful and talented - but they are =20= exploiting whatever gifts they have been given to feed "the beast" of =20= the industry. Many of the same attitudes and much of the same industrial mechanism =20 that infects "pop" music also infect "art music" these days. =46rom "classical" through the "avant-garde" many who begin as =20 passionate unique idiosyncratic artists get caught up in their own =20 marketing plans and become mere shells of what they were at first - as =20= soon as significant amounts of money becomes involved. And, we all would be guilty of the same if we were given opportunity - =20= we all desire to be "successful" in some fashion. We all would make similar sorts of compromises to "deal" with the =20 beast if circumstances presented the opportunity . . . all of us . . . =20= the temptation would be irresistible. Thank goodness I am neither pretty, sexy, or particularly talented. The beast will never come looking for me . . . never . . . and I know =20= it. My invisibility is an advantage though. I can still work on killing the beast, or at least work at putting a =20 few crooked nails in it's coffin. To me, that's the work of an artist: working toward the ultimate =20 destruction of the beast that would take all that is creative, life-=20 affirming and good and send it "downstream" to the same, greedy, money-=20= making cesspit. Mainstreem is downstream - whether it seems so or not. =A1Viva la revoluci=F3n! Ted On Feb 14, 2011, at 2:14 AM, andy butler wrote: > William Walker wrote: > >> .Why does mainstream seem more like downstream these days? discuss... >> Bill > > perhaps because the so called Avant Garde has hardly progressed =20 > since the 1950's > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 15:56:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64BC8183478; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <028067E3-B269-44DE-8856-195A3D59369C@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--583262885 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: RE: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:56:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:56:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--583262885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it is best for a musician to shut up about experimentation and let the listener decide how to label the produced music? Bingo!!! my sentiments exactly, when people ask me what kind of music i play, I just smile and say "good music" because quite frankly I'm tired of that question, I think a genre -less world is ultimately a better world, at least i wont be having to describe my music to people hoping I mention a genre they can relate to. bill --Apple-Mail-1--583262885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe it is best for a = musician to shut up about experimentation and
let the listener decide how = to label the produced music?


Bingo!!! my = sentiments exactly, when people ask me what kind of music i play, I just = smile and say "good music" because quite frankly I'm tired of that = question, I think a genre -less world is ultimately a better world, at = least i wont be having to describe my music to people hoping I mention a = genre they can relate to.
bill
= --Apple-Mail-1--583262885-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:23:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34D3183462; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6113D009-9231-48A6-9DD8-D6E553C6CFE3@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:22:48 -0500 Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvMY4c7OMw7SP/BRV+fp9oLyZaCeA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 16:23:40.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A3B45C0:01CBCC63] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" w= rote: > Again, how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds effectively and= energetically? Art? Heck yeah, I would pay to see that (f)art for sure. He killed THE CROWD. He i= s an entertainer, would be real happy to be doing as well as him as an enter= tainer.=20 Are we entertainers or not? Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:36:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E9E5183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:35:21 -0500 Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvMZULWdsZLuYB1S3mCEGmv+R6g8w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 16:36:02.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[44518EF0:01CBCC65] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Does it have to be real farts or sampled? On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" w= rote: > fart sounds From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:36:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82873183475; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 213636.47052.bm@omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=v9iaXtaa6oo/QSZyilzOP3bsCtCP7cy/XjVDjf15Z0E5xi+WSwq+y1c3z8TJ2Jcy5HxeY+AKT6/UgCfbiYXT2Rhf/zTrlRihEEPM+J4WLtJFKnz/8iTapIJI9u2NtdalUrSH5l583bveBeTboeXZv/HyRYWEFgJR22vOjDSnyVE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297701401; bh=CkQs5O7je7WZZwowYTKBaIkPEesFN+bkXZ8aAUgi5ws=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Ibpouuj01jHaM5/JhjCZBjjMQQyAzAZrwxLDwh1WwFyriB5vFdhvAQBLBocKCEIchjCXfrd7NJyHunws+/oS8NQhK/EGiJFc1BgDoprt2hUc0C864h1IVlMsB4mWOKSu7sqAjCCfMweBiupqJtVPP14L573hqVCtPwsMga7Nm08= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: HKKZx.YVM1k1Xxghl1PAItig0Epv_z2PYfiUfTI6SVUenLk _PVMtwY7lqgW0zMfmtS2WHDQhMJCV6u3GCjm_UvVhKc8jknNy68_yZtYneBb rSfrx0q9JIt5C_eulTnLds6y0v04eAXQ657shkeiFGzLtFjvbSE37hbvNdS1 P9c60P5OhQ3dboBPFK.oR9FREtFaR5cXPCVXJIUkCuVI4rAlKk.vA1.MRorh GeRQ6N.dneu5xVRVwGBP4CHkE9MwncV0t06vF5DuoQn4UQmp37une9iUWBay cbABj9QEU5wrpo0YQ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--580867054 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:36 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--580867054 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed in 9/8? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 16:35, Andy Owens wrote: > Does it have to be real farts or sampled? > > > On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" > wrote: > >> fart sounds > --Apple-Mail-19--580867054 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII in 9/8?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 16:35, Andy Owens wrote:

Does it have to be real farts or sampled?


On Feb 14, = 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

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= --Apple-Mail-19--580867054-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:39:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77BD818345F; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=zopXeSM741Dc9HhlKqlUV91vKqBTqN3VJrx5/bVUhR8=; b=AFiqa71S2s/Z9C+orEQUGNv2eYsb04Ijk9vm/GFZPPUq1ml5SlWwoaHJcYW+WSIs/A OrowLfe/AzFZOT0tyYy+oKdNV+MjiadQ5t/6GIZJwc4ppHgxjlI1tpDd+Z1/bCVvFkbn xRyZn8h7R2tUQ0smadeInwiv5b3ZnnbIVcTaQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=qswrXvjCerl3NM0msr7TRy46RbWoHxrCEDuI8Az0xp40/cJHX3xg0bFShF+rci1GyM awcYrqb8OSK7fBzXmV9+86S06rgMra0xrcRPyK9RmSJ1VwurXN81gdOwZxHP08gn50g8 SHQjR2uSFz611932yZLZeeysgfjwJrrr0iUss= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--580694282 Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:39:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <4400D8F1-7E47-4D30-82CA-4D71F8788B84@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:39:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--580694282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As long as they make sure to incorporate good dynamics into the = performance. On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: > in 9/8? >=20 > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >=20 > On 14 Feb 2011, at 16:35, Andy Owens wrote: >=20 >> Does it have to be real farts or sampled? >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" = wrote: >>=20 >>> fart sounds >>=20 --Apple-Mail-1--580694282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii As = long as they make sure to incorporate good dynamics into the = performance.

On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:36 AM, = Matt Stevens wrote:

in 9/8?

Matt Stevens

On 14 Feb 2011, at = 16:35, Andy Owens wrote:

Does it have to be real farts or sampled?


On Feb 14, = 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

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= --Apple-Mail-1--580694282-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:40:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96489183480; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:40:32 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> Message-ID: <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18FAVEs334FZeTniOd0kJ59Ijkv4KcBFoUfG1LfvM mJkJtUkxHQNdw5yuOvPBwApQA5ohxbIWOKfw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: N2NseddSRkkNdt1hiGVqRgtudWkvKJN9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi all well, I don't share this opinion that mainstream is going downstream. Actually, for the first time since early 90's, I'm listening to charts and buying mainstream music again. In the 90's I kind of got pissed off because the marketing scheme was so obvious (put together boy group, 2 decent songs, rest crap...). But mainstream performers seem quite vibrant and interesting nowadays. Think Pink, Adele... Songs like Cee-Los "Fuck You" (love the motown sound) wouldn't be possible in the charts 8 years ago. I also love the mainstream stuff produced by Max Martin (Katy Perry, Pink, Kesha, Adam Lambert....). So, for me, mainstream music is fun again. Now, back to you Avangardists ;-) best regards Buzap -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 16:43:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36308183485; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Looping Grammy Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:43:57 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:43:54 +0000 (UTC) ?I was surprised to see that the Grammy Awards was last night. Is there much to pay attention to these days, with no 'new artists' to speak of that the Biz is selling this year? You can only be a 'new artist' once but somehow they tried to nominate Lady Gaga (or her outfits) a second time this year. Perhaps someday the Big Four can pull their finger out and listen to some truly new talent, then the show will be more relevant, and more watched. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Owens Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 3:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping Grammy Didnt get to watch the show, no Tv, who won the Looping Grammy? Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 17:31:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BB01183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4400D8F1-7E47-4D30-82CA-4D71F8788B84@gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4400D8F1-7E47-4D30-82CA-4D71F8788B84@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:30:31 -0500 Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Thread-Index: AcvMbP2gGG/KqQSaTxWPdNGzOyob6g== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 17:31:21.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF29B9D0:01CBCC6C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Real fart loop, ok, that I can do, but 9/8 thats asking too much!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 17:33:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F681183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:33:13 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Am I being sneered at because I use looping in the context of = performances that have, you know, SONGS in 'em? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 17:34:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EED3183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 625227.16319.bm@omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jDkAL7ehUsihl2P83UafbKJknsRCyAmC3vexCKdJJJBb3I2K5/2EW/cu3Cy10pjJ7bGpvXP+7rUZc9OdydUXWXq6oSAc6q69URDDM89Tn2rSBVEwpmSAc08Vyzu3hDUx4axEpSCdrDmqRBK4KjaLyAOepbngd3mqSgrsYkiSGI8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297704892; bh=2Dd8Qa41ia40V+40GqwRiAHH8EPx61C2N15KwdzX7QY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=3XShviCGTJiLDrWm+TJ4rWDZI4bC6uhqT+cYfnOs8d4ud133Ao2+w1r3v/Q/A7XT+AwMAyuhSGc8rs4fPiTEkAV/u6yCl1PreyHbYiH7RJUMTnoBZPxHSaACKYa76Z5J3Qc2ewAI9fkTa5WXAWBgt2D48vC3WVbitXr/36vCQJs= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: bY2FMTEVM1k2OqIpojHnUFLMid5M1T3Gq94_SfeWROgVWAj oDBaly.YMb2If5MkO1BeeUZh.VLEwRVRibKo_r_VqMODGFMCiif._8nH2AQZ Kzhd48ga2zsjqGu3_dMcRFGsWgerlr_HY4GfibY_TbLI_xnGw068Pqz1nTgg _LVnDyCUuLJDDW17CKYtWjQ1oEw27AhcqsZwKDpPA4OZN7VP5DhQkFrQtAWb sbEszf5NT._uXHA6sdwkT_DIUpudruGWCmWFMdVXEK18Ng3SjTm4MYc.oqEz bnqfq5N_p X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20--577376910 Message-Id: <98B0EF34-7A4A-4AFB-8A9A-1DF2213244E2@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:34:46 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20--577376910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed :) nothing wrong with songs Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 17:33, David Gans wrote: > > > Am I being sneered at because I use looping in the context of > performances that have, you know, SONGS in 'em? > > --Apple-Mail-20--577376910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII :) nothing wrong with songs 

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= --Apple-Mail-20--577376910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 17:37:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC63B183459; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VjDKPq2fAjnckSCCZOjmy3+O6PLAwu7OBgkyFT0/TOQ=; b=iwWUGhhERASrl2xmso19428/pPg8piJiZxdE7UQqlaVS5kW+QbZN88VbQqYIRxYn0a KU/QJprBSif5F8e2Zgecn3YdmnYf108kGpkovWrtRiCvSv97eg6KbDxBm84wPKJcrxqf H7Kudc1QgF2y591ZWEXT58OY7s0TksKEgovbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vJak7OIa6IQqONMtjoWwhY/7qpCvb2XSKtvtsb29NaXzywo5mHts1MbpKkKuG+mKmT N0DyqHJfjiKs6bMEsZF/yxY3bpZiN+v1fJatWs25pSfKwwRrWUWEnXvDFQLdol0HHLIJ rcme9ENqdXRo0+TcP4N1N3wofR85vILjiYFPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:37:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <4lwGoB.A.mOH.1hWWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:37:57 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > well, I don't share this opinion that mainstream is going downstream. What exactly does "going downstream" mean in English? If we are all floating in the river of time the expression would mean "the future" (since "downstream" is where the water takes everything). That makes Bill's post mean that everything is going mainstream sooner or later. But if we regard ourselves not floating with the stream but rather sitting on the river bank watching all that junk pass by - well, then Bill's post would mean that mainstream is a more or less passed chapter. I personally think mainstream music has got better and better over time, according to my own taste. > Actually, for the first time since early 90's, I'm listening to charts and buying mainstream music again. I'm having the same experience! :-) For me it started in 1987 with the Israeli submission to the European Song Contest, a very cool uptempo piece sang by Ofra Haza utilizing a middel eastern melody scale over a hard sequenced bass synth line that was tonally flirting with Bach style "falling" bass lines but by timbre rather following the by then rather obscure production style of Scritty Politti (the percussive synth sequencing style Miles Davis then was looking into to soon be using on his album Tutu). After that mainstream tune more "odd" music made it into the charts and by the nineties it opened up a lot. House, Detroit Techno and local folk music from all over the world (don't know who was responsible for the stupid idea to call that "ethno") were more often heard within the same songs in the mainstream airplay domain. KLF's What Time Is Love was a mind opener for may by that time. Mano Dibango was heard playing african sax growls over a 909 recorded by a guy that produced a mega commercial hit the week before. Sudden world hit tracks coming right from the underground experimentation laboratories. Hip Hop and Grunge kind of dumbed it down a bit, but only temporarily. I'm all positive that a part of the mainstream music will keep on amazing people. The reason for this is, as explained in my previous post, that the market, economy and culture doesn't allow large scale manufactory style music marketing anymore. If no one can make big money on it, it won't happen large-scale. It seems this is a good scenario for the 99 percent musicians that are not superstars. (although musician still, as always, is a shitty job - but that's another story) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 18:06:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43A8D183485; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer; bh=YHcxOjH3R0SmliN38hFeNKkMEmY6Vcw1Q+tbjhADxP8=; b=TSmkrrXgR48N3oJt9xsScONhCPZTIPNXByF35OOo3ZHWAT1XNEJe47Su4CUPHBT9+5 dAz6ZRK3Pbm+qxjRQJ1dkn61Hi8oxHvrcAA60Er9yQuxC71PFibfLPr5dKBNZo03+rHT I9INDTtDvOxgClW3BnhdkVjuRoNXbYP94CDbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=WFbFSShxUDISfR+hB6MHEGw5b+6bMQ3+kw7tW3mQYQi5gQgQseT4CWlFDkLDcyU1Gk 4GwEUzZ3hMXivsx1AvGjLzRTz8Ia7JhF5XKahuAKg/zDghh0pJmlsRvVTJy4l9m/NBgj Lk9EOcw/9URNiuka9LsChsHrWMy4NAkhIUeMk= Message-Id: <98A78361-DE39-4DBC-96A9-E4D93577DFB4@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--575474140 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: for thereminists Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:06:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--575474140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarding from another list regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego *******************FWD******************* Hello all, My music in-box is just about empty. So, I'm out beating the bushes again for new theremin music. If you are a practicing, recording thereminist and you've produced recordings in the last year, and you haven't been in contact with me (or you're not sure), please e-mail me! You can find me at spellbound@purplenote.com I hope to hear from you soon! David V -- ----- DAVID V -- synthetic music for humans ----- Spellbound, a brief program of music for theremin Sunday 10PM-12AM http://spellbound.purplenote.com FamilyWii -- For Gaming Families and Families of Gamers Visit http://www.familywii.org for reviews and info **************************************************************** --Apple-Mail-1--575474140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --Apple-Mail-1--575474140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 18:13:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4225183473; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 579924936/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4CAEr/WE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMhBKTUrofkDWBJ4NBdgSPJQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,469,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="579924936" Message-ID: <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:13:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi all > > well, I don't share this opinion that mainstream is going downstream. > I took it to mean that it's all retro. Fair comment? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 18:35:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C89E183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SYUF23d/T0//4D4aRMaFWlHTF7XcXscErxbCDQkPAbA=; b=O6ZnAtRgkWNtp0XMh6D5I4ku12OB5UYyWZGqQqYLz8MKoIp9pzAmKrgR/uL5QkNrU2 KUHvh2XqIDdps6Qsr6pbnZ5QzdwpChTvdG5eyQtHOnyfXPFr2ZEvbqDzhTg8eA1TTjCC c+CEw6KOMHCzFDbDuULnzuafs4KNugzkl+FVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=SxhS3c8Y8un6TVZWiCp/oqjqm0O532Xa2DLfUaw1MJyM317oIKktM0NiPrR9faIKkb /wbXBVkzalOXZJrmK/PbohbaKyGz82HQ6+Oewvka0acwsuDANJWevk4xPIe/RaJs5dcc wdfSDkYZ29yFmqs/mtV7S15qmhh1nVMncKOb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:34:54 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6Nve9WLqRFtzTWLt_EM4aHLvWfs Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:35:16 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM, andy butler wrote: > Gordius can't on it's own wait to start on the beat. > Because it just counts midi *ticks*. > That's all it does. > OK... > > Look up what a midi *tick* is....then you'll understand. > 24 ticks per beat, or similar. DER.. Er thanks Andy... Look up what a *patronising git* is... then you'll understand how others see you (PS: look up "sarcasm" and "no hard feelings" too, while you are at it???) > > Midi Clock *doesn't* tell the receiving device where the beat is. > It's just a stream of identical ticks. > > If you start the sequence at the right place, it'll run in time. > If not, it'll be synced in the out of time position. > Well I knew that too, but this is where there are some interesting "its just the way it is" for me things. I certainly used to have to start my drum-machine on the downbeat to be certain of it being totally "in-synch", but I as it would always start automatically on reception of the EDP midi clock.. THEN when I bring in the command I want, by un-muting the bass synth part of the drum-machine (I used this for programming the midi commands) it already was in synch. Which brings us back to square one... Or square 2 actually... At least you can send a stream of commands seperated by a beat, and half beat a quarter beat (3 *ticks" right?) ... thats certainly fast enough for most situations... a 16th beat being 6 ticks If Im not mistaken? Which just brings us to synching... obviously dependant on Xavier willing to do something with this anyway... which he might be more inclined to if I actually bought the fucking thing.. but I digress.. The Gordius obviously KNOWS When it starts receiving midi ticks right? So we need a command that says.. delay this thang till we reach a user specified division of ticks. So really its just to say... START COUNTING!!!! OK.. he hit a pedal, now wait for a number devisable by 6.. now you got 16th notes dude! Or am I missing something and I should go back to the forest? Sorry for harping on about this everyone, I hope Im not boring you'all, its just such a major part of my performance technique that changing systems is a fiddly "head fudge"... Mark -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 18:47:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A9D1183461; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7o+f1NtPAx2zA/DKvownqdSD4qY4XAGLRfW7yYPrhZ8=; b=hdlI7hCTfuYIGgpGjyqYucdGfnLPl/D92zaQUlb+0HJxOnNPGkUb+nb9w5WjWdYZh3 NsK74yYxZTheaajh9nb0fhn9RsONMhCaqF6ZO0VrVkVsGlyhcxVQLrsQwmsJB1Qh268B YVNw2yhyorFU/QAeHnunF3jNC8+A8JKj/D0yY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=esy4Mm6BxIr3DpGalb+VCwfK5VluyN8IGFVAwKJ3vU6bf6lJx+yPaDFmDz4PaSiQmX oY1EJWj0phigsTLgDCXRv5Sl93CTrDtlH3csHhsBO31xLDhjLVI4kIjC5Lr2MSugpE1z Rqp/T1sWyPbNGoiUhXDybgYCwmbfK8YNoxaS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4400D8F1-7E47-4D30-82CA-4D71F8788B84@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:46:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a549825f0b049c42774e Resent-Message-ID: <3oGPsD.A.XTB.tiXWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:47:09 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a549825f0b049c42774e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Music is for a shared joy - in that context Dub FX is just so much fun! Love his work! 2011/2/14 Andy Owens > Real fart loop, ok, that I can do, but 9/8 thats asking too much!!!! > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a549825f0b049c42774e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Music is for a shared joy - in that context Dub FX is just so much fun! Lov= e his work!

2011/2/14 Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.co= m>
Real fart loop, o= k, that I can do, but 9/8 thats asking too much!!!!




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--20cf3054a549825f0b049c42774e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 19:15:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E676518347B; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fSGgjUF5DLmp1D17DgK5tdUn5YT8k5w+LoqkwobSZRg=; b=EvCBO6ccie8nfFdL5usYUH37ZK6Dk8JGWUPXXR2DJtj/50ZNtP4aFarHoY/la+Qv6a t/nuZusy4XZ1vY7lE9IQAANKikWA6wLHSlH468jSOGAJb1HfCO/ReMxoRMubDCG784gI xQVNaJHraHjrPdEBqjVW3suziUv4hwrdUZVSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=HsCnGV3NbWXfOls+lKBNN948L1HT9t4lNrcx92P9KAFMj/B/dSPahucotoztaDm4mN cfkcXQas+//Wuh6dtL6TLcJemP6MaXaNnGZAFjNOZpBxeSLkIAm6vax6rgRozMyMrxs8 4GjWft37zow8VwcXj8Up91L6f+/igGpQ/LIuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <028067E3-B269-44DE-8856-195A3D59369C@baymoon.com> References: <028067E3-B269-44DE-8856-195A3D59369C@baymoon.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4ef780219049c42d80c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:15:39 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4ef780219049c42d80c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. When people ask me what kind of music I play, I usually tell them tha= t I play a some popular music, some semi-popular music, and some un-popular music. This usually takes me into a lovely conversation where I can define it all. Being everything from a traditionalist to an avant-gardist, where nothing on the continuum is mutually exclusive (by definition), this serves me the best in terms of my commitment to connection with people, artistically and personally. I love the part of this thread which denotes the issue as spectrum and continuum whereon 'mainstream' is a completely movable point. Nice. Cheers, friends. Todd On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, William Walker wr= ote: > Maybe it is best for a musician to shut up about experimentation and > let the listener decide how to label the produced music? > > > Bingo!!! my sentiments exactly, when people ask me what kind of music i > play, I just smile and say "good music" because quite frankly I'm tired o= f > that question, I think a genre -less world is ultimately a better world, = at > least i wont be having to describe my music to people hoping I mention a > genre they can relate to. > bill > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 In C Remixed now released on iTunes and Amazon! :: Read about it here.= .. http://bit.ly/3Pm4g3 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a4ef780219049c42d80c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol. =A0When people ask me what kind of music I play, I usually tell them t= hat I play a some popular music, some semi-popular music, and some un-popul= ar music. =A0This usually takes me into a lovely conversation where I can d= efine it all. =A0Being everything from a traditionalist to an avant-gardist= , where nothing on the continuum is mutually exclusive (by definition), thi= s serves me the best in terms of my commitment to connection with people, a= rtistically and personally.=A0

I love the part of this thread which denotes the issue as sp= ectrum and continuum whereon 'mainstream' is a completely movable p= oint. Nice. =A0

Cheers, friends.=A0

Todd

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1= 0:56 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
Maybe it is best for a musician to shut = up about experimentation and
let the listener decide how to label the produced music?

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Bingo!!! my sentiments = exactly, when people ask me what kind of music i play, I just smile and say= "good music" because quite frankly I'm tired of that questio= n, I think a genre -less world is ultimately a better world, at least i won= t be having to describe my music to people hoping I mention a genre they ca= n relate to.
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--20cf3054a4ef780219049c42d80c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 19:17:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2872918347B; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=b0ti4q5gwdzdsTZpaVNfQGWOyEyKm9Lh1QzbLAM+ogveuRY4iFeSnRPkMFFIc8XJ; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <8495806.1297711022374.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:17:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da940e6a2e8bacbfb264b7eb0a8f803ad3a0e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.36 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:17:03 +0000 (UTC) A gross amount of popular culture has always been sh*t ala the Osmonds, Reality TV, Jersey Shore etc....... And most great cultural movements begin in the underground or counter-culture. By the time they've enter the mainstream, they are co-opted and divested of all meaning. I can't take credit for the last sentence. I read Brian Eno saying something similar in some interview. All of the big things of tomorrow are yet to be polluted moment occuring now in the digital underground. I think that was the gist of B.E.'s statements........ -----Original Message----- >From: andy butler >Sent: Feb 14, 2011 11:13 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? > >Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Hi all >> >> well, I don't share this opinion that mainstream is going downstream. >> > >I took it to mean that it's all retro. > > >Fair comment? > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 19:19:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E919E18347D; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <787A2C31-9234-46D7-95A2-63B72445444A@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:17:41 -0500 Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Thread-Index: AcvMe+zBfUQDNnIFTRiH7gh59pqTVw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 19:19:12.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FC4AE30:01CBCC7C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:19:14 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:35 PM, "mark francombe" wrote= : > Sorry for harping on about this everyone, I hope Im not boring > you'all, its just such a major part of my performance technique Yeah man you are interrupting our fart loop thread!!!! I found a bunch of fa= rt .wav free online, now I know why I kept my mpc500= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 19:43:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F079183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DYaeUFjvEvvtiWtiqyhXF/0LaYA2XJ3vpo1hX61U55c=; b=b07u9lwPs56dNblRNv6bYDDbmu6piV05545vW5RXeniwoY6pJdvZvWHOCXotRMWQn4 1IKYxbIKTECjqx/WueHyUrTeJ3x5UiBEe0lz4K5dykhLV6MP2bv8sWeBMdXrBivqUlV9 JtUQTYLocHR6GNoe36syMhHmwujRKox3r654o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XO9HxuDloQbOtGkDg0pd/5dcHmhIEuuz57ykwGFX4s6KQWsP3YWRTK9lCjYhylmp8B DlXpf5KYu7RXbJnPssdTt+2bC0g6eRtme1L+xGqzmiJLeEjR9qX9ziEDHk0n8bG6EnTh ju1XERtjsHyqlDr+BSURHnMTXtGE6l3tJIOwU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:42:48 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VsizP8sw0HwMX1PAFKy4LSTJWzM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:43:12 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler wrote: > Buzap Buzap wrote: > I took it to mean that it's all retro. > > > Fair comment? God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of all music though! Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional emo kid (there always been one). As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, preferably with barbed wire on it... If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... M -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 19:45:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8383818347A; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SemslkmCQW+s4yixaOzvNI3NOxO6+HNSIqvyxkxC0C4=; b=g8n0pyEKvSrl0sG0YgKVRm91L1B6EX4oOegOzd7whe3hFxihwKQzGYKIh7yxs9Tclo oQbE0uQUVO/hRyovrwEvLGyp3gC8ofwrasl2K4zJoQ6sQCW6qyOE5nrvGPYpku5u3KnD 5StS8KsU6ZDhqa0ZAZuuzq7skEpGUvVD7/o2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=RbiwWRvbyJXDh3wEwVdXp2u2DKsS1jyS5y0Yqh3zIf71loFf0F187FVVeYSCo0+FQU KslKujizLqED0+klt4MkASn314ce/KdkE5IJndYk39bDiMrlIyZIopR1QjFjy7q5iCOF rHjc4UWzoHlAPM9LRRNj0MQ54dJ1hcTEFoL/8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <787A2C31-9234-46D7-95A2-63B72445444A@1800dialword.com> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <787A2C31-9234-46D7-95A2-63B72445444A@1800dialword.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:44:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: UQ-0SC3zsBjZdG5wuHvvNFQQW50 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:45:00 +0000 (UTC) LOLOLOL On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2011, at 1:35 PM, "mark francombe" wrote: > >> Sorry for harping on about this everyone, I hope Im not boring >> you'all, its just such a major part of my performance technique > > Yeah man you are interrupting our fart loop thread!!!! I found a bunch of fart .wav free online, now I know why I kept my mpc500 > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 20:00:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF82A183487; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping References: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <353837.84202.qm@web36702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <558FB086-4D06-40F1-93F5-892AF4957656@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: The State of Boss Looping Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:00:19 -0500 Thread-Index: AcvMgeGVLUOW2oIsQY+er+dZWw5eKQ== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 20:00:57.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4B3FEC0:01CBCC81] Resent-Message-ID: <40b7GB.A.ylD.6nYWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:00:58 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" w= rote: > how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds Wait, woman farts are silent, that wont work!!!!!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 20:35:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85D19183465; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297715702; bh=7dlqawgL2zJqP3fqV5fuE0PIlvMDiLv/b8W1DmTYsOY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=00oaW4pMHvxF9rljaik2dYd/waIDfN4EDcw6bdyNqgXR3VlE2UESHf59y3sojbXre+1ow7Srlhk0wDVeliwryCD0jpoI4W4d1/ZZSb4t+/FqRVh0d99ykBpZTa3oEL/tpRZeflnPBO4dkZlLNirOtz69zYmElWVXOs1iL8ENZjQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u0zoXWL5rcuTEfA/R5UmLf1kcG/ewL/3z3gS9bFDj6lltzxAyMFooCBaQ+aFp3SU/WN0Co7CaTNHQupBZOzkVD3UeUeWdgjcgrnwuPEgcJ011bYLO4ERnEknksO0ijJP6gyGlq1gOffPZWfqKbA5G3dwkdzTPNT/9rRU8niU7cc=; Message-ID: <732505.74754.qm@web36707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: eG4qOw4VM1lmHIqWyk2tqKcE3ewkxbqI_FmDu506gkqaEnl aXIKjTN8i16bj4Ia8_Hu1w0gP5TFWnYBK8zr63m8eYKCDQZuPjL_a_ZEuumA kwEXaNufyGlRRsb3i7EqwZR4ytI2wc0voF5fAUAljqnYgyfAbN660JbQhcIm mFo_9UWK8Dw7qrsozS.Dm8zgUrzIYdhsbv2mtmCJ2IxLDjofm_RK1qBsKoM5 A00aT2cxF2ztLW27D4r8ypS2U4kT.X35ns8hkZ5Q28Yszgx1ixYVRgEK8Qhm UnH8nqSnO0DZhlD4G19U.ulnF7F0g3Qg6IBvh0jZPYF6GX5_M_2ShSsrR5Qr gNcHmZQU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <558FB086-4D06-40F1-93F5-892AF4957656@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-708892701-1297715702=:74754" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:35:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-708892701-1297715702=:74754 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ya know, I'd like to see "Schlmo" do a version of Grand Funk Railroads T.N.U.C.! --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Andy Owens wrote: From: Andy Owens Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 3:00 PM On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" wrote: > how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds Wait, woman farts are silent, that wont work!!!!! --0-708892701-1297715702=:74754 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ya know, I'd like to see "Schlmo" do a version of Grand Funk Railroads T.N.U.C.!

--- On Mon, 2/14/11, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
Subject: Re: The State of Boss Looping
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 3:00 PM

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, "Paul Richards" <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

> how about a man or woman who could loop fart sounds

Wait, woman farts are silent, that wont work!!!!!

--0-708892701-1297715702=:74754-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 20:45:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E607E183460; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3b97fb00-cdf9-42ed-96cd-88f1df8af415_" X-Originating-IP: [86.146.109.231] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:45:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com>,<7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk>,<402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net>,<4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 20:45:23.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[19E49360:01CBCC88] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:45:25 +0000 (UTC) --_3b97fb00-cdf9-42ed-96cd-88f1df8af415_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you've put your finger on it here Mark. Apparently there is "good" = in all forms of music=2C (though I just can't see it with "country" myself = =3B-) When I go to check out some music=2C I just want quality. I like to think I= 'm broad minded enough to appreciate most genres=2C (but not country).=20 It's all about quiality isnt it? Good music for me is about vision and orig= inality=2C passion and intelligence - but NOT COUNTRY! Peace Gareth >=20 > If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls > Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping=2C > Glitchy=2C ambient=2C lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run=2C = get > me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair >=20 > Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... >=20 > M >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no >=20 = --_3b97fb00-cdf9-42ed-96cd-88f1df8af415_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you've put your finger on it here Mark. Apparently there is "good" = in all forms of music=2C (though I just can't see it with "country" myself = =3B-)
When I go to check out some music=2C I just want quality. I like t= o think I'm broad minded enough to appreciate most genres=2C (but not count= ry).
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From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:58:17 +0000 (UTC) water doesnt run uphill brothers,it flows downstream and is beautiful to hear and watch,specially in hidden nature beautiful non commercial art and music should actually be called downstream why dont we just say we play downstream music instead of live looping? i never liked that term anyway:-) Luis On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> well, I don't share this opinion that mainstream is going downstream. > > What exactly does "going downstream" mean in English? If we are all > floating in the river of time the expression would mean "the future" > (since "downstream" is where the water takes everything). That makes > Bill's post mean that everything is going mainstream sooner or later. > > But if we regard ourselves not floating with the stream but rather > sitting on the river bank watching all that junk pass by - well, then > Bill's post would mean that mainstream is a more or less passed > chapter. > > I personally think mainstream music has got better and better over > time, according to my own taste. > > >> Actually, for the first time since early 90's, I'm listening to charts a= nd buying mainstream music again. > > I'm having the same experience! =A0:-) =A0For me it started in 1987 with > the Israeli submission to the European Song Contest, a very cool > uptempo piece sang by Ofra Haza utilizing a middel eastern melody > scale over a hard sequenced bass synth line that was tonally flirting > with Bach style "falling" bass lines but by timbre rather following > the by then rather obscure production style of Scritty Politti (the > percussive synth sequencing style Miles Davis then was looking into to > soon be using on his album Tutu). After that mainstream tune more > "odd" music made it into the charts and by the nineties it opened up a > lot. House, Detroit Techno and local folk music from all over the > world (don't know who was responsible for the stupid idea to call that > "ethno") were more often heard within the same songs in the mainstream > airplay domain. KLF's What Time Is Love was a mind opener for may by > that time. Mano Dibango was heard playing african sax growls over a > 909 recorded by a guy that produced a mega commercial hit the week > before. Sudden world hit tracks coming right from the underground > experimentation laboratories. Hip Hop and Grunge kind of dumbed it > down a bit, but only temporarily. I'm all positive that a part of the > mainstream music will keep on amazing people. The reason for this is, > as explained in my previous post, that the market, economy and culture > doesn't allow large scale manufactory style music marketing anymore. > If no one can make big money on it, it won't happen large-scale. It > seems this is a good scenario for the 99 percent musicians that are > not superstars. (although musician still, as always, is a shitty job - > but that's another story) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 21:23:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6F0318347B; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576962289/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="576962289" Message-ID: <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:23:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > DER.. Er thanks Andy... Look up what a *patronising git* is... then > you'll understand how others see you (PS: look up "sarcasm" and "no > hard feelings" too, while you are at it???) Now *that* I know already. > Which brings us back to square one... > Or square 2 actually... At least you can send a stream of commands > seperated by a beat, and half beat a quarter beat (3 *ticks" right?) > ... thats certainly fast enough for most situations... a 16th beat > being 6 ticks If Im not mistaken? correct (afaik) > > Which just brings us to synching... obviously dependant on Xavier > willing to do something with this anyway... which he might be more > inclined to if I actually bought the fucking thing.. but I digress.. > The Gordius obviously KNOWS When it starts receiving midi ticks right? It knows enough to flash it's leds on the beat, that's true. It can't tell when you started a new loop though. It'll just keep counting from where it left off. > So we need a command that says.. delay this thang till we reach a user > specified division of ticks. >So really its just to say... START > COUNTING!!!! OK.. he hit a pedal, now wait for a number devisable by > 6.. now you got 16th notes dude! you'd also need some way to clear the count appropriately > > Or am I missing something yep, me too I hadn't considered it could be done the way you suggest. >and I should go back to the forest? If it helps to imagine the following. Just one extra Gordius command:- WaitForMidiNote The EDP is *always* putting out midi Notes at Beat Cycle Loop that's already in place. (put the edp on ch 10 and feed the midi out to a drum machine) the Lg *could* respond to them, either in order to Quantise to any of those divisions, or to use it to wait for a starting point to run a synced and Quantised series of commands. Which, of course, will do exactly what you want, and more, be easy enough to implement, ...and be useful for other applications. want? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 21:30:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF30B183477; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576964571/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="576964571" Message-ID: <4D599F05.5030800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:30:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:30:46 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! good, so what mainstream stuff isn't? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 21:34:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4844183475; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 899 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:34:43 UTC Message-ID: From: "boost" To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:34:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110214-0, 14/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 11523867022204518066 X-Ovh-Remote: 85.170.128.51 (85-170-128-51.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.500003/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Everybody ! on this video there is no sequencer. i have 4 echoplex synced by brother sync. the idea is simple, the first loop i do is a very short loop, something like 20 ms. then i do multiply on each instrument that can be different, i may have 19 cycles on bass, 13 cycles on guitar, and 11 on drums. of course i do intensive use of quantized (Q=cycle) sus-replace... at the end of the song i do a multiply on all 4 echoplex. going to 6 cycles then 5 cycles , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1... end of the song. no random, no sequencers, but heavy polyrythms !!! thanks boost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louie Angulo" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video > hey Booster this is awesome! and very interesting how you are doing > this but it would be nice if u gave us more detalis in how you used > the sequencer to throw this random messages,would you care to share > that with us? > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, boost wrote: >> Hope you'll enjoy... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 21:35:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82464183477; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 872622.7591.bm@omp1011.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=sonJ9IT7cN9LjpAe2rcXQWShr9PZh5PxhC8Vv9/MG/FUPIiUegk5rAiVdKB7MLXrl45LGgFQtMLDmgdv1rkRNgP4cTz3VOFX43Tu5TrxZ7VS3zX0FXnkCPGyoaX7hXv4eHeczTVfU/VySJ/EwoRA9h3YlY6sgue81Ekekd3xuH4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297719300; bh=DGIGfDmRdtcsr8+7DxQIrVSWglVD/oLycv+XPGHY2PU=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=u87dm8ApeDB9GVolgSykHiLvaItRp0e/O5jN18JJ+J07WOZhwrTrRDi7zTVhl5LSbS3DehSN/QH7nKdZH1dSKASnRayFVDCOugXHFXbk01zYApq2QmnRouiSYiQobt1WXS1g/9pKj2uk2MK72SI5nJMuct8BY6vwWF2zVuwTmyQ= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: jCxdAUwVM1na7KHpaLmSedPJCR_X9CSkSL3vukkJxdqRmEY 2nZgYq0mFlN0fJmoWz5HTBMLypCyG_ynwH.vAHw7o01G1jQA6aEZpiLxW6pq CSHQwmJr1UQz7LitKRso0ZH8HqbzyfQqcFyVUbmKn5HDsrlV1fSgg6U9Yv3m o1Wy6x1Sd4DpiMdqEeTTZFSD3hl6gNMfghkN93D2tQnz1QDufqU9q4kgo9Q8 FvP5i5QvpzOi8Jq1KCZpaHCbJ3Qt6itjvX9gzIKkZ_ELuAHanJi8yH184k51 7vOyf3n2rcu5RYQD_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21--562969624 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:34:53 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:35:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-21--562969624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler > wrote: >> Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> I took it to mean that it's all retro. >> >> >> Fair comment? > > > God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! > > Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the > last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of > appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of > all music though! > > Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im > terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! > It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in > sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... > here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional > emo kid (there always been one). > > As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a > philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night > out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my > evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... > If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, > preferably with barbed wire on it... > If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours > of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. > > If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls > Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, > Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get > me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair > > Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... > > M > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --Apple-Mail-21--562969624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I don't care what they call it as long as they listen.

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> = wrote:
Buzap Buzap = wrote:
I took it to = mean that it's all retro.


Fair comment?


God.. I didnt = get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap!

Wow, I = cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the
last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in = a lot of
appropriated music... just cool = in my book... hardly representative of
all = music though!

Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become = erased... Im
terribly afraid that its just = that we dont know what they are anymore!
It might = be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in
sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as = far as I can see...
 here the kids is either = Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional
emo kid (there always been one).

As for a = genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a
philosophical, religious and political sense... but = when I get a night
out to go and see a band, I = sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my
evening by = accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down...
If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big = metallic font,
preferably with barbed wire on = it...
If its 4 hours of Gregorian = chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours
of = Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it.

If I see = a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls
Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers = Live Looping,
Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ = Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get
me best = togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair

Genres = help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one...


-- 
mark francombe
twitter = @markfrancombe
=

=

= --Apple-Mail-21--562969624-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 21:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 806C918347A; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_023b25e6-5be6-4970-952b-4b8717f33e27_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: , Subject: RE: Looping Grammy Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:38:40 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ,<0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 21:38:40.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B904A70:01CBCC8F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:38:41 +0000 (UTC) --_023b25e6-5be6-4970-952b-4b8717f33e27_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the fact that Esperanza won means they were at listening to somethi= ng other than screaming tween-agers. And she is amamzing! ( plus she's from Portland!) J.D.Devros =20 > From: spgoodman@earthlight.net > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Looping Grammy > Date: Mon=2C 14 Feb 2011 16:43:57 +0000 >=20 > ?I was surprised to see that the Grammy Awards was last night. Is there=20 > much to pay attention to these days=2C with no 'new artists' to speak of = that=20 > the Biz is selling this year? You can only be a 'new artist' once but=20 > somehow they tried to nominate Lady Gaga (or her outfits) a second time t= his=20 > year. Perhaps someday the Big Four can pull their finger out and listen t= o=20 > some truly new talent=2C then the show will be more relevant=2C and more= =20 > watched. >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Andy Owens > Sent: Monday=2C February 14=2C 2011 3:19 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Looping Grammy >=20 > Didnt get to watch the show=2C no Tv=2C who won the Looping Grammy? >=20 > Andy o=20 >=20 = --_023b25e6-5be6-4970-952b-4b8717f33e27_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the =3Bfact that Esperanza won means they were at listening to = something other than screaming tween-agers. And she is amamzing!
( plus she's from Portland!)
J.D.Devros
 =3B
>=3B From: spgoodman@earthlight.net
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Looping Grammy
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 1= 4 Feb 2011 16:43:57 +0000
>=3B
>=3B ?I was surprised to see that= the Grammy Awards was last night. Is there
>=3B much to pay attentio= n to these days=2C with no 'new artists' to speak of that
>=3B the Bi= z is selling this year? You can only be a 'new artist' once but
>=3B = somehow they tried to nominate Lady Gaga (or her outfits) a second time thi= s
>=3B year. Perhaps someday the Big Four can pull their finger out a= nd listen to
>=3B some truly new talent=2C then the show will be more= relevant=2C and more
>=3B watched.
>=3B
>=3B -----Origina= l Message-----
>=3B From: Andy Owens
>=3B Sent: Monday=2C Februa= ry 14=2C 2011 3:19 PM
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= >=3B Subject: Looping Grammy
>=3B
>=3B Didnt get to watch the = show=2C no Tv=2C who won the Looping Grammy?
>=3B
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= --_023b25e6-5be6-4970-952b-4b8717f33e27_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:06:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47B8D183486; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4801 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:06:23 UTC Message-ID: <19B59D35FC11483ABEFC802A9B044020@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:19:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110214-0, 14/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 10256666677204795058 X-Ovh-Remote: 85.170.128.51 (85-170-128-51.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.500003/N Resent-Message-ID: <0MLDp.A.dgH.fdaWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Everybody ! on this video there is no sequencer. i have 4 echoplex synced by brother sync. the idea is simple, the first loop i do is a very short loop, something like 20 ms. then i do multiply on each instrument that can be different, i may have 19 cycles on bass, 13 cycles on guitar, and 11 on drums. of course i do intensive use of quantized (Q=cycle) sus-replace... at the end of the song i do a multiply on all 4 echoplex. going to 6 cycles then 5 cycles , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1... end of the song. no random, no sequencers, but heavy polyrythms !!! thanks boost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louie Angulo" To: Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video > hey Booster this is awesome! and very interesting how you are doing > this but it would be nice if u gave us more detalis in how you used > the sequencer to throw this random messages,would you care to share > that with us? > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, boost wrote: >> Hope you'll enjoy... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:31:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29136183490; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:31:39 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:31:47 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the > mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his > earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music with > varying "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything > coming down the pike. Bill and I had a very progressive world music/fusion/all instrumental group for 13 years called Worlds Collide. For a while in the late 80's and the through the mid 90's we were able to get a lot of gigs with this ensemble as well as opening for other world acts like King Sunny Ade, Youssou NDour, Thomas Mapfumo, Johnny Clegg, Salif Keita, etc, and even playing very lucrative coroporate gigs opening for the likes of (I know it must sound weird) the Neville Brothers, Huey Lewis and the News, Cher, Kenny G, et. al.) but the market for progressive instrumental music outside of the jazz world (hell, including the jazz world unless you were a superstar with an already established track record) completely dried up. Record stations , even independent ones, stopped playing music like this and finally the good gigs stopped happening. The mainstream right now, is not very interested in instrumental music and hasn't been for a long time. This is not to say that there isn't really good music being made in these fields but, with a lack of good performance opportunities, we finally hung up the ghost and stopped. That's been my perspective in Northern California. It's been this way for a good ten years now. Other than artistic satisfaction (which can be enough for some artists) there's not a huge incentive to put all the work it takes into creating a progressive instrumental band when there are very few places to play in our area. Just my 2 cents. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:32:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1638A183473; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Looping Grammy References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Looping Grammy Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:31:18 -0500 Thread-Index: AcvMlvhLt+lOUOCXQkuEZjj295xN+g== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2011 22:32:47.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AD696B0:01CBCC97] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Well if enough of us joined NARAs we could have a looping Grammy. Have a bud= dy on the board, you would be surprised how few votes make a difference some= time.=20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:40:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD3C18348D; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D59AF6E.2090002@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:40:46 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petri Lahtinen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:54 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Latest love of mine was Rihanna's "Man down". > > I've always loved Meredith Monk, Nat King Cole, GG Allin, Exploited, > Dark Angel etc. > > I've never seen the reason to diverse the streams. > > There's something good in every stream. > > -Petri- I'm with you there, Petri. This is what I've come to believe. If you go to any music genre' section at a record store these days, at least 95% of it runs from just mediocre to utter crap. If you research, ask around, listen to radio or even just stumble onto something, 5% of the music out there is pretty good to fantastic. Of course, everyone has aesthetics so we may miss some of the good music out there. I just don't love bluegrass and mainstream country as an example, so I probably miss a lot of good music because I just don't put the energy into finding the 5% that is awesome in those fields, but I know it's out there. My first professional gig of my life as a drummer was with a country band. At the time I thought I hated country music but the guys I played with were such good musicians and they were so intelligent and kind that they turned my head around about that large style. I saw a Barbara Walters special where she asked Dolly Parton in her trailer (getting ready to put on her overblown, glitzy shows with a huge band) if she ever just let her hair down and played guitar with no accompaniment. Dolly said, 'sure, I always write my songs with just a guitar" and she sat down and played "Jolene" and "Coat of Many Colors" with her impossibly long fake fingernails in front of Barbara Walters. It was just stunning and beautiful. I went out and bought a Dolly Parton's greatest hits album at the end of that first summer of my professional drumming career. I still have it to this day on vinyl. That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent." We just need to ferret it out. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:41:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4E14183485; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 706061.82327.bm@omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=bPbFI8jkNvxE5zO2hUC2UspI1riQ7L15RKhWupifwVdiIJYEFypEXmCNXpFlAXGBY0wH7kNXbwEPXqJuPoKCKaqi+trJnenTL4fMrTGq/pKw8N9XgRVsh3J30yfSiifTtWRUqusdDyVft6BDWo+Cc6k1z899SVde1kZjDa4Cxq8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297723270; bh=ogo7WcnPpj/VGl+ui4blXsclEpm1JBmUWW4rcmtpANk=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=2osoLJD/6iL8KpO6izDIW6q8PhuAHKmWMXrpfUd2IxhBCyKilDp/8epTPRMzYSZj7OPUBGL3nmM3lmwQjRSQZ7VA24CIC4GiMD/vujbdl+vU9BDffZQ05de+TPvPuXS0OqcIaztrFi06zggV8WmapfK0rZF/Wn3R3fpn911Ynl0= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: QHLngioVM1nqEXThsqi2z2JBq4GiIj1rWNvBBrzIUYqMVq1 fQcdRelvbWLd9wkYxxc7DVfeYaVeWaQsaNvGLALp7np1eTQ9_mHeVduUkuQr VKYxLltVFsBo0p2koQVVc2ZxwFsrGmVNOK77Kp2abJoOvNtS.kPzFo1GjcgM UuDT_wj6ofnmp6lRCeI1LoEYya4slPVcBQCGasu8o16kG_xTFDzdaRacZmRw MAMZWNYaWVDLe48VuOT6AHGOKuJYSAcFJb7_i_f5K3i4Eoqoi_yQvlRPLuuG HENqDy8nr X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--559000218 Message-Id: <6747D9A9-EE31-44D2-B431-1681321EB2BE@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:41:03 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9JCEhD.A.mKB.I-aWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:41:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--559000218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Things are getting a bit better in the UK - there is the Classic Rock Prog mag - it really supports progressive instrumental artists and its in most news agents and has 22K readers - there has never really been the chance to reach this audience before. There are a few niche "prog" venues and support slots with acts are becoming more readily available - although this is a recent development. I have no idea what progressive really is but its a good thing and I never though I'd see it happen :) I think its cause a niche audience has grown online perhaps. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Feb 2011, at 22:31, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Richards wrote: >> Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the >> mainstream is doing anything even like Pat Metheny did with his >> earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental music >> with varying "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) >> anything coming down the pike. > Bill and I had a very progressive world music/fusion/all > instrumental group for 13 years called Worlds Collide. > For a while in the late 80's and the through the mid 90's we were > able to get a lot of gigs with this ensemble as well as opening > for other world acts like King Sunny Ade, Youssou NDour, Thomas > Mapfumo, Johnny Clegg, Salif Keita, etc, and > even playing very lucrative coroporate gigs opening for the likes > of (I know it must sound weird) the Neville Brothers, > Huey Lewis and the News, Cher, Kenny G, et. al.) but the market for > progressive instrumental music > outside of the jazz world (hell, including the jazz world unless > you were a superstar with an already established > track record) completely dried up. Record stations , even > independent ones, stopped playing music like this > and finally the good gigs stopped happening. > > The mainstream right now, is not very interested in instrumental > music and hasn't been for a long time. > This is not to say that there isn't really good music being made in > these fields but, with a lack of good > performance opportunities, we finally hung up the ghost and stopped. > > That's been my perspective in Northern California. It's been this > way for a good ten years now. > Other than artistic satisfaction (which can be enough for some > artists) there's not a huge incentive to put all > the work it takes into creating a progressive instrumental band > when there are very few places to play in our area. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Rick Walker > --Apple-Mail-22--559000218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Things are getting a bit better in the UK - there is the Classic Rock = Prog mag - it really supports progressive instrumental artists and its = in most news agents and has 22K readers - there has never really been = the chance to reach this audience before. There are a few niche "prog" = venues and support slots with acts are becoming more readily available - = although this is a recent development. I have no idea what progressive = really is but its a good thing and I never though I'd see it happen = :) 

I think its cause a niche audience has grown = online perhaps.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 14 Feb 2011, = at 22:31, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Paul Richards wrote:
=
Yeah, but the title of the = e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the mainstream is doing anything even = like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far = as instrumental music with varying "world music" influences? I don't see = (or hear) anything coming down the pike. 
Bill and I had a very progressive world = music/fusion/all instrumental group for 13 years called Worlds = Collide.
For a while in the late 80's and = the through the mid 90's we were able to get a lot of gigs with this = ensemble as well as  = opening
for other world acts like King = Sunny Ade, Youssou NDour, Thomas Mapfumo, Johnny Clegg, Salif Keita, = etc, and
even playing very lucrative = coroporate gigs opening for the likes of (I know it must sound weird) = the Neville Brothers,
Huey Lewis and the News, = Cher, Kenny G, et. al.) but the market for progressive instrumental = music
outside of the jazz world (hell, = including the jazz world unless you were a superstar with an already = established
track record) completely dried = up.    Record = stations , even independent ones, stopped playing music like = this
and finally the good gigs = stopped happening.
The mainstream right now,  is not very interested in = instrumental music and hasn't been for a long time.
This is not to say that there isn't really good = music being made in these fields but, with a lack of good
performance opportunities,  we finally hung up the = ghost and stopped.
That's been my perspective in = Northern California.   = It's been this way for a good ten years now.
Other than artistic satisfaction (which can be = enough for some artists) there's not a huge incentive to put = all
the work it takes into creating = a progressive instrumental band when there are very few places to play = in our area.

Just my 2 cents.

Rick Walker

=

= --Apple-Mail-22--559000218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:44:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C55DF18348B; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 571391414/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.138/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.138 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApACAP8+WU1YbReK/2dsb2JhbAAMl2TLDYVeBI8l X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,470,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="571391414" Message-ID: <4D59B053.5070009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:44:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599F05.5030800@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D599F05.5030800@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:44:37 +0000 (UTC) dammit, that doesn't sound the way I meant it. Just means I'd be glad to hear about what's new. andy andy butler wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > >> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! > > good, > so what mainstream stuff isn't? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:44:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6FA8183497; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zaturZv3lhuRdMBVEZZeSjVZb9B+dJ5NCs6/6NarNTU=; b=EMNnrdaGm7H68o43B8SiqOTkGsOI/cUsIZs/RZGuI4ZaJ4sa1/xJW5QRV5neZdWywM zmKnIxzVVxz/6u3U+31YzPM9EBuxcRLVDaRG8uoBopRXgWhjabo/DgbXJGA4njtTalkG 6Hoddig39InTK4OLMTDlQg6sE6+Ka7VTTTi94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aurFAAxYmB9rj829xcjYy27TPyQc1jSfwLxeh6UywFEBRGCp77R1ED5ULO7eUcfbHQ z1Glb6mXVBwmF/wTbOgJlwAevTmaVI1sObrrW1eFNIVJcSk2nfDScOEyUQhbCexeSQbO 0SNlGcARacF8+IXv90+S7Duymt9tPQRIsHotE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:42:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:44:54 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Yeah, but the title of the e-mail says "mainstream". Who in the mainstream is doing anything > even like Pat Metheny did with his earlier band Pat Metheny Group in so far as instrumental > music with varying "world music" influences? I don't see (or hear) anything coming down the pike. Good point Richard. Experimental music is hard to find these days if you mean really new music, like Pat played in the early 80's, mixing different genres into something new. I don't know if he was the first one doing this, but if he did, that would be my definition of experimental music, in other words ground breaking music. I think Per had a point too that many artists use "experimental" as a way to describe their music, perhaps to tag themselves as "non-mainstream" or as my mum says "strange music"? Actually, I'm using the term experimental music all the time, but honestly, and thinking about it, the ambient stuff I play is far from experimental, it has been done a thousand times before by others the last 30-40 years ;-) Genres - Usually people like to categorise anything you can possibly think, also artists. It's how our brain works, and it helps us to make decisions, find out who you are, which group you belong to. There's nothing wrong about genres. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > why dont we just say we play downstream music instead of live looping? > i never liked that term anyway:-) Live looping - Imo, "live looping" is a not a good name for a genre to describe music, it doesn't sound very attractive, and from my experience people don't understand what you mean by it ;-) They always ask what kind of music you play, whether you like it or not. If you tell them you play jazz and use multiple delays/looper FX pedals, they always say "I don't like jazz", they never say "I don't like live looping" and they don't care about your EDP, Mobius or RC-50. However, it's interesting to tell people about live looping as an instant composing technique and explaining them that it helps you to write songs. Interesting thread! :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 22:52:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D5E61834A1; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:52:36 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:36:25 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: New (Old) Video posted on You Tube Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, Frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I just posted a section of my favorite early video works on YouTube.Video Mandalas, Part 1 is the first section of a one hour video exploration of symmetry that I created and published on VHS tape in 1996. I also composed the music for this section of the piece. The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_onjpVmgnQ BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 23:08:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8644D1834B0; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bRD6VJMEvhopM1Rx4M5GNiYb09mZ+DAuJcaVKvdCJQw=; b=IRBxb61eOcULnSdubtWO+B2FF3CdoqzAoOqydoQv1uNAhX2RVuNMZcevYMAftV8gsT jK0WDDGWjUHOvlvovR5AppMsYBKKXDJgLFFEXMSUDZZu4wFHRnrr/BU35SWd1s3ZGe8E ih9j+Jq1jvylAb3ggQ1Uw8GErR5MhmyVwNmmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rgi+6YViYVwSlfJQ8KjPgBlodOfKSGzjzp5FAwnOm3ZBpn/uOoLvs2TzQvrP4aUY8N pUeB2PShIGbG1DYfeJPkPYCBLCPy0vP4K+u/WzCdx7BNJTx8T3hgx0/tLjqi643R+ILy fX46LGkWHULUQu2mHxelL8iFxr68e+CcSCmvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:08:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lbkj9MUv9TlqZVgCgTdDt0XzmQ0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:08:23 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM, andy butler wrot= e: > Just one extra Gordius command:- > WaitForMidiNote > > The EDP is *always* putting out midi Notes at > Beat > Cycle > Loop Indeed.. Id forgotton those little blighters... caused me no end of trubble once... then I used them > that's already in place. (put the edp on ch 10 and feed the midi out to a > drum machine) Didn t get THIS bit... why exactly? The edp blips aret on ch 10 are they? Or are you thinking that ch 10 is the usual drum machine channel? What was the purpose of the drum-machine here? > > the Lg *could* respond to them, either in order to Quantise to any of tho= se > divisions, or to use it to wait for a starting point to run a synced > and Quantised series of commands. Right.. now you=B4re talking my talk daddy 'O (sorry.. dont know why I said that...) > > Which, of course, will do exactly what you want, and more, (indeed.. more= .. velly velly interesting...) > be easy enough to implement, > ...and be useful for other applications. > > > want? Well.. let me see? Will there be more lights in my rig that flash in time with the music? Good.. then Y E S..please.. no hurry though... still have to find a buyer for the child= ... M --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 23:11:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72D381834BA; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D59B6A0.6020009@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:11:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <028067E3-B269-44DE-8856-195A3D59369C@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <028067E3-B269-44DE-8856-195A3D59369C@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:11:35 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, William Walker wrote: > Maybe it is best for a musician to shut up about experimentation and > let the listener decide how to label the produced music? > Bingo!!! my sentiments exactly, when people ask me what kind of music > i play, I just smile and say "good music" because quite frankly I'm > tired of that question, I think a genre -less world is ultimately a > better world, at least i wont be having to describe my music to people > hoping I mention a genre they can relate to. > I agree completely with the sentiment too and your desire for a genre-less world, I too, get really tired of trying to explain myself to people It's a constant irritation in my life. At the same time, It's also occurred to me that human beings are both social animals and we also process information using pattern orientation rather than a linear one. I think it is human nature to categorize; to align themselves with movements and genres. It's built into our neurophysiology...........it is built into our natural biological orientation. Categorizing helps us sort through the vast amount of information (and music styles) that exist through the world. When you walk into a record store looking for something to buy (if anyone actually still does that) it is natural to seek out at least a broad genre of musics to peruse through. Otherwise it would take hours to stumble on something that you might like. Likewise when you talk to another person about a musical event they have witnessed, it's always important how they describe the event in a way that is compelling enough to get you to go to it. This doesn't, of course, mean that we can't be more discerning; more intelligent in how we make our choices in life but I think it's inevitable that musicians outside of the mainstream will be forced to describe their music to people, especially if we ever hope to attract a slightly larger crowd to our performances. Let's face it, the Bill Frissels, Robert Fripps, Eivind Aarsets and Nels Clines of the world HAVE to have some kind of a fan base in order for us to even know about them. They or someone working for them (or legions of radio announcers and foaming at the mouth fans) to get out and promote them.........to put out the word............to get enough people to come to their shows for them to continue touring and making commercial recordings. Bill Frissel , as an example, is so vastly more than just a jazz musician, but that's the handle he uses to get people to see him play. It's arguable that he HAS to use this approach (due largely, to the lack of organized new music venues everywhere in any country). Once he gets the bodies into the Kuumbwa Jazz center, as an example, THEN he can let them just listen to his music as music without category. I think it is inevitable to promote, consequently, if we ever hope to play in front of audiences outside of own respective home towns. Part of that promotion is figuring out some way to describe one's music so that it will intrigue people enough to come to the shows. I think there may be musicians who have just done what they've done and not put any energy into promoting themselves who have gotten successful but I think it is a very tiny minority. There are so many choices for things to listen to in the world now.........exponentially more choices than existed 10 years ago......exponentially more choices than existed when we grew up..........I believe that as artists in this age we have still got to realize that it takes some promotion to get ourselves out to some kind of decent listener-ship. If we only want to stay at home and hope the world finds us, despite how incredible the music may be, the chances of that happening are highly unlikely.............especially the way media exists in the current time. I see a lot of artists who use this approach growing old, cynical and bitter about the world. This seems a waste because the world is full of wonderful new music that is constantly bubbling up. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 23:27:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D85A31834C3; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=khQPpQoevXvRe0yv6ngHSUGueDESI8NjM5EtrY5ZW/U=; b=sY1TMCBlschvnPR16TkNw3PxG9K7ikYMC+CAdYPws3bh+HE02Yix20kS4YPybBEI1X ygEnk0MpAOACLhiXfzf0rVmOKZVr9v0MFKvfjPOSYq53sfAJNf5NNYVatHrARHAJAKU6 utY6wEexMti9FFNZPJ7p2BPFtpnVH+vWj8QZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MaQj55u5Vf0l0A4bM25mMabMWry+J+383s3G4HkYMRIZk8F07nMZeUrJsOiX5EACbb da1bh5ck7JAk9rXcNZ9vqRvDsUEoI4QGPhEw8MAjY0hRytHK/ocLUNl/VQUocGVwMScN VrSLaxdrt3K8+6nm8j8q5V139fjOIKv+DKZm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:27:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:27:04 +0000 (UTC) wow cool boost but how many midi controllers do you have? i see you are constantly moving around! cheers Luis On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM, boost wrote: > Hi Everybody ! > on this video there is no sequencer. > i have 4 echoplex synced by brother sync. > the idea is simple, the first loop i do is a very short loop, something like > 20 ms. > then i do multiply on each instrument that can be different, i may have 19 > cycles on bass, 13 cycles on guitar, and 11 on drums. > of course i do intensive use of quantized (Q=cycle) sus-replace... > at the end of the song i do a multiply on all 4 echoplex. going to 6 cycles > then 5 cycles , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1... end of the song. > no random, no sequencers, but heavy polyrythms !!! > thanks > boost > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louie Angulo" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:01 PM > Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video > > >> hey Booster this is awesome! and very interesting how you are doing >> this but it would be nice if u gave us more detalis in how you used >> the sequencer to throw this random messages,would you care to share >> that with us? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, boost wrote: >>> >>> Hope you'll enjoy... >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 23:41:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C9761834A3; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D59BDAA.5020108@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:41:30 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <4D599F05.5030800@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D599F05.5030800@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:41:37 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: >> /"Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!!" / > good, so what mainstream stuff isn't? Well, I'll go back into time to answer this, but when they first appeared on the pop charts, David Bowie, Talking Heads, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Paul Simon (around the Graceland phase), Bjork and Radiohead weren't retro. Every now and then, there are progressive things that break through to the mainstream. The rise of the internet, the ubiquity of very narrowly defined stylistic internet radio, the ubiquity of music in films and television, the ubiquity of free downloadable music (both legal and illegal) has, essentially, started to erode the concept of mainstream. We now live in a world of micro cultures that are defined by media, socio economic and age demarcations. Lately the charts are equally divided between Country, Hip Hop and Pop (Gaga, boybands/girlbands, et. al.) I know this because suddenly I have a free copy of Rolling Stone coming to my door all the time and I perversely, still read the charts at the back. It's my observation that, invariably, the lions share of fans who purchase this music purchase one of those categories and eschew the other two. Musically, we are a country divided and there is no discernable mainstream concensus any more. It's hard to talk about it. Maybe 'commercially successful music' would be a better tag. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 14 23:46:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7396D18349E; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t2jhQTaUQLVSfNCkhMqrn2j2E82I98MOCobN3WoSLJM=; b=bBuiq0p7e8rmeJ7Vhb55OmviY3t19R3vPnBFseYhWBqx5OBliKcBuCpSHhE+gILA5B YjhWcmw3SzmNVIhuriyswvX67bWX/kql2bL/PRvA9wvQytI/7Zks3swWFNwhq5Xbrk3A ItDnCyKQwxAehAZM/RZFeiv7kIIILBAJhKnM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w7fxkK6Ilc/2VhdFS7dNAIzmHDybMipDgf3nP3K4wbXC6+dXEZxkZv5jh9pUSQdCSE H3KoUGO56Ygp9ucsuaeTN0NKZEagtF+CDSoWcIh5KKNiUpGPgqXVb7AE0bb4mo0Ei53o SGyjR7b4B/xqG4P99L8lMQ0fbRn5t1UGixICs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:46:19 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Well.. let me see? Will there be more lights in my rig that flash in > time with the music? This guy has quite some flashing lights in his rig, but no drum machine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3GD-p1k0Q Shot this last midsummer. Flash 'n' Leds Majix in the white-blue midnight light. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 01:35:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34B1818345F; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 01:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=macRT55Il1eELv9Lo8mJ87BRwLTZKInksqvHfXjvu0s=; b=R3zTrHkctaPST2f2vftGPaN/iOl2P4oQHbi4zCNagJGITXDSgmAm8WiqCNohcrFA9O 9+7JqemR4LNJ427jLzqvfDfiHS0u86YCcNBdMoATUi0MQk11o0KGg3k/PzcQDUeIpJCf +VVUcCVkupjsyX5JjgqizVpfESos/biwSw8mI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OYYtSzJJQMAu0tau0XWk43oMQIy1p8fTy96iapOX58NfGGSOEhJxd7/rdj8O2d5St+ KlhM5R6BXLwF+74RUzR57Rv5vdpuAhWDsJ39/Kba/DMwl+vjj8Brg3UeXoJmnW/yjjxN BJe8T+cuVTsArhADsCBapqe/16k7JxV6Hyr3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:35:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 01:35:39 +0000 (UTC) I don't think that most of the listening public actually listens to music anymore. I think the big 4 record labels got where they are by identifying what most people like about the music - that there IS music, and that they feel like they can understand and identify with the images of the artist behind it. This is part of what made Michael Jackson and Madonna (and now Eminem and Lady Gaga) so huge - that they understood the "persona" of being a pop star is actually more important than the music itself. And for some of them, you have to give them credit - this "persona" thing can be an art form in itself. I actually have some respect for Lady Gaga as an artist. Not so much as a musician, but there is art to what she does. I think Beck was the most recent time an artist I listen to won a grammy, and it was one of his weaker albums. Unless Radiohead got something for "In Rainbows". I pay about as much attention to the Grammys as I do to the superbowl. Regarding experimentalness - it exists in most genres of music. The genre known as "Experimental/Avant Garde" is actually an umbrella term for 5 or 6 major branches of very different music, and a lot of subgenres. It probably has more groundbreaking work than other genre titles, but still more than 80% of the practitioners are working with very specific ideas that have had success in the past. I admit I love a lot of that stuff, but I can't pretend that it's more "creative" than pop music. When I can do so without sounding like a pompous ass, I try to push an idea of "personal music". That is, the musician focuses on distilling the elements that make them unique as a performer from the expectations that come with their genre or their gear. They work with the rules that they want to work with and ignore the rules that they don't want to work with. It involves constantly asking the question, "What does (your name here) REALLY sound like?" -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 04:31:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9BA3183460; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=C+KXSjy+91LdAUdiqVPa92VAPtmMUquWk2/Qb+qq0wl5j5GMriU4Tpquwd0/SLT/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:30:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Grammy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a54b5634a5b28f350dd82ca9d841403e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:31:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm up for a Governors position on the board of the Producer and Engineer's wing of the NY Chapter of NARAS... keep your fingers crossed...! >Well if enough of us joined NARAs we could have a looping Grammy. >Have a buddy on the board, you would be surprised how few votes make >a difference sometime. -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 04:39:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6030D183464; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5MCtS39gSgEczE4M1FBUtYUbphwUHWNnKGU1SMwvRwM=; b=Tj2QtNQtXYyGZDIsH2QHvC5+829af6czkmjhB2ohPuE3XUHxsaoBo1yBaDEXal8CL+ IOUdEkEHVo+NsFJK6FbY8i6BAxbQLpVBr45QejD6TgIhytEiG9/e3ieOaH2C8dOdPsF4 f5Hdj8adtWulV+B4gMMUXaOYZyEQkdwyzQkfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P5KxkPnY49AjmDb1XdkYz/XS4LDr8yLHCjUp2SDZUEpNif0641zTJRfoCoi9xDIUr1 AbJupd7gc4jB3lXnAGndSdB9ldVsEFucBWHJzi4D/je3n9upqLnf6xsN2vDl3EJoECYv yZVXSPpZO17LV+wQh0uBxXTOxIUMd89KOKXHk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:39:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: EDP Help! 2nd loop start point is off... From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555e47eb5a933049c4abf39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 04:39:26 +0000 (UTC) --00032555e47eb5a933049c4abf39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This problem is wigging me out. I am slaving 2 EDP's to the tempo from Logic Pro. When I record a loop the EDP's wait for the downbeat, record and start looping beautifully. I now want a second loop. Here's where the problem begins. I hit Next Loop, the loop starts recording on the downbeat, and it starts looping... however the start point is (somehow) NOT ON THE DOWN BEAT -- Even though the loop is still in time, the start point of the loop is shifted forward about a 1/2 beat. When I switch back to the first loop it switches 1/2 beat later. Now my first loop is out of sync... Please help!! I remember this happening to me before, then the problem magically went away, and now it is back! ***If you need more info (EDP settings) please ask.* Thanks, Adam --00032555e47eb5a933049c4abf39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This problem is wigging me out. =A0=A0

I am slaving= 2 EDP's to the tempo from Logic Pro. =A0When I record a loop the EDP&#= 39;s wait for the downbeat, record and start looping beautifully. =A0I now = want a second loop. =A0Here's where the problem begins. I hit Next Loop= , the loop starts recording on the downbeat, and it starts looping... howev= er the start point is (somehow) NOT ON THE DOWN BEAT -- Even though the loo= p is still in time, the start point of the loop is shifted forward about a = 1/2 beat. When I switch back to the first loop it switches 1/2 beat later. = =A0Now my first loop is out of sync...

Please help!!

I remember this happening to me before, then the = problem=A0magically=A0went away, and now it is back!

**If you need more info (EDP settings) please ask. =A0
=
Thanks,
Adam
--00032555e47eb5a933049c4abf39-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 08:27:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0419183460; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:27:51 UTC X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18mlT95TQYmrblPzA9lVrJwGQDPtb1LcjPyvTwQG1 Ep6uoK7MeHv4XM Message-ID: <4D5A3771.3010304@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:21:05 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020600040807050503000408" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:27:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020600040807050503000408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I dont there is such thing as kitsch... I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me. I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performative process....... Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens: > I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler > > wrote: >>> Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >>> I took it to mean that it's all retro. >>> >>> >>> Fair comment? >> >> >> God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! >> >> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the >> last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of >> appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of >> all music though! >> >> Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im >> terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! >> It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in >> sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... >> here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional >> emo kid (there always been one). >> >> As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a >> philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night >> out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my >> evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... >> If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, >> preferably with barbed wire on it... >> If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours >> of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. >> >> If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls >> Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, >> Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get >> me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair >> >> Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... >> >> M >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > -- http://www.nirmala07.net --------------020600040807050503000408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I dont there is such thing as kitsch...

I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me.

I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performative process.......


Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens:
I don't care what they call it as long as they listen.


On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Buzap Buzap wrote:

I took it to mean that it's all retro.


Fair comment?


God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap!

Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the
last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of
appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of
all music though!

Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im
terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore!
It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in
sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see...
 here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional
emo kid (there always been one).

As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a
philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night
out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my
evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down...
If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font,
preferably with barbed wire on it...
If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours
of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it.

If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls
Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping,
Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get
me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair

Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one...

M

-- 
mark francombe
twitter @markfrancombe




--

http://www.nirmala07.net

--------------020600040807050503000408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 09:12:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76D95183460; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577125617/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRf2/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="577125617" Message-ID: <4D5A4375.1040201@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:12:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:12:22 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:23 PM, andy butler wrote: >> Just one extra Gordius command:- >> WaitForMidiNote >> that's already in place. (put the edp on ch 10 and feed the midi out to a >> drum machine) > > Didn t get THIS bit... why exactly? The edp blips aret on ch 10 are > they? Or are you thinking that ch 10 is the usual drum machine > channel? just a way to check that those Notes exist, don't know if they depend on the Sync setting. >> want? > Y E S We just have to convince Xavier then. It's an addition to an existing function, and I reckon we thought of an efficient way to achieve it without a lot of programming...just have to ask. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 09:20:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF873183464; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577129159/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIBAA+mPE1YbRf2/2dsb2JhbAAMhAaSOLoIg0mMGoEkgzh0BI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="577129159" Message-ID: <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:20:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-nV_d.A.0MB.jVkWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Per, would it be useful to you to have the LG have the following? The ability within it's streams of commands to wait for a particular midi note before continuing. e.g. you press the LG switch, but the action doesn't happen until you play a certain note. (and by putting that in a loop, it could happen *every* time you played that particular note...but only when that preset was selected). andy Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Well.. let me see? Will there be more lights in my rig that flash in >> time with the music? > > This guy has quite some flashing lights in his rig, but no drum machine. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3GD-p1k0Q > > Shot this last midsummer. Flash 'n' Leds Majix in the white-blue > midnight light. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 09:30:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CAAD183461; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SV4kUTdjHH7O5NBiUqxWeO8R+hhWXPdQGpZhpBuT8I0=; b=NfUts1bHNWiB+rOY7nAcP0QroQPH+l8G57emBEMTAaWWwVroh1Bw1Fz8YxVXxTZkG2 7fucOMR6U1zaJTq0GaiMIqTdR64Xsspgs8VuTcairg0wIIb9KFE1cDeSVexGk8SoHIDt 7XUrS/baf7qFMBuxR/j3FgF5unU7ZRRQ2KJm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kOKB5ovFheFQ54eGSEcJY4nTEhrBuiNBxGyWGf74tXqRKci+Fi80R9WOSEqgHzTvRy ZJAK128dhpCODj9MlC+iSWgRd0qjaZu3bvyJce4j5JPgEB3sJsg00Z6dolKtqjkCUm9f lQYOBLGviTMlhKRaIjq9X3pAbSaXunSosHhmk= Message-ID: <4D5A47B2.3000703@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:30:26 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Slightly OT: Virtual Performance of Terry Riley - "In C" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:30:16 +0000 (UTC) So this is not about our live looping using technology, but, as those of you familiar with the work can attest, has to do with loops in the widest sense. I'm thinking about putting together a virtual performance of Terry Riley's "In C" using ninjam technology. So how does it work? 1. THE PIECE: (For people familiar with "In C", read on to the next section) "In C" is a composition by Terry Riley where any number of musicians (Riley suggests about 35) play a sequence of notatet repeating musical patterns of varying length. Each player decides for himself how often he plays every section. Everyone plays to a common pulse (usually performed by a piano hitting the high C in eights). There's a score for download here: http://www.patrickgrant.com/InC.pdf What happens is that those different sections will sound together, with different offsets, to produce some ever-changing...thing. 2. THE TECHNOLOGY: I'll be using the good ol' ninjam for this. Ninjam is a software which allows for realtime music collaborations via internet by rounding up the transmission delays to a value that makes sense musically (e.g. one measure). This works very well with this specific piece, because it really doesn't matter if a single player is heard by the others one measure earlier or later, as long as he is on the beat. There's a basic tech writeup about ninjam here in the archives: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200605/msg00185.html 3. THE IMPLEMENTATION: Everyone sits at home (or at a venue, or on a sailboat with internet access or whatever). Then someone (e.g. me) sends the annoying high C pulse, then all play the piece. We can also stream it somewhere. Time frame: not entirely sure about an actual date - open for discussion! 4. NEXT STEPS: Discussions/questions: here, if it's ok. Just telling me "I wanna be in it" - offlist, please. Yours, Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 10:11:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77F47183464; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580188267/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkwCAD7gWU1YbRf2/2dsb2JhbAAMlzHMEoVeBI8q X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,473,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="580188267" Message-ID: <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:10:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon wrote: > Regarding experimentalness - it exists in most genres of music. The > genre known as "Experimental/Avant Garde" is actually an umbrella term > for 5 or 6 major branches of very different music, and a lot of > subgenres. It probably has more groundbreaking work than other genre > titles, but still more than 80% of the practitioners are working with > very specific ideas that have had success in the past. I admit I love > a lot of that stuff, but I can't pretend that it's more "creative" > than pop music. so what's the 20% that would stand out as being groundbreaking compared to say, the Forbidden Planet soundtrack? What in this decade was unimaginable in the previous? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 10:36:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51392183460; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v7KuzbhTNBCYXppqzcUjBhYiMs4eXLtCxJ+JACS6Yos=; b=Q3EAAyyHNnrp1WYb7ACYZk0VdZsp2p2SK8l8Aj9ftJoFzhtmEW99W8q1TDXC2QvHh4 QMbZTpaV5bf/SX1iQU9I6CsrbwOfrTw1Kl01OtY24OeJSFdXXriQuWu8Ppsf1zn9y+2z OGvAr/BUwQ/DB0OIFJKpHQ9dFCWxPRtmcg044= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pudLZOuBUFgekfhFH/IoQGD7KnCnY/Py+71TWcUk/bcRzXcNr8jkYO5oE+VJ6O28M/ i8xDhaahTRHkZw5yDkqbX1+Znimphhklm0unEWE3G1JKIOXwB78xuMmZPoKxQMpV2/lA b2dTt+TCMJ/8t5bkwDab2bsbhXidTvhYtgZSo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:36:16 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler wrot= e: > Per, > would it be useful to you to have the LG have the following? > > The ability within it's streams of commands to wait for a particular midi > note before continuing. > > e.g. you press the LG switch, but the action doesn't > happen until you play a certain note. > (and by putting that in a loop, it could happen *every* > =C2=A0time you played that particular note...but only > =C2=A0when that preset was selected). > > andy As I understand it you first press a LG switch to send a MIDI note on (or some other event) but this MIDI note on is not sent until you use some other MIDI controller to send another (or the same) MIDI note on to the LG. Well, I don't think I would use that. It seems too risky since MIDI is a linear protocol and quite timing sensitive when you start quantizing and synchronizing; if sending too much data over a MIDI port you are choking the connection and packages are getting delayed for their destination. I was active with hardware before computers entered electronic music and with MIDI it was sometimes a horrible experience, timing-wise. But this issue doesn't apply to "virtual MIDI" inside a computer, so if I would find some use for such a delayed command setup I would prefere to do it in some software rather than in the physical MIDI controller. For reference on this, read the manual chapter on "Sweeps" etc. There are three sweeps and the two faster ones, I think they are like ten and thirty seconds long, both choke all other MIDI output abilities during the sweep's duration. Personally I'm finding only the last "long sweep" useful because it leaves some holes for other packages in the data stream so you can still use the foot controller for other commands during the four minutes long sweep. Finally, I think Xavier should use available time to work on fixing the bugs and finalizing the Mac editor software for the LG2. Besides, I read the LG2 manual two days ago and if my memory serves me right it already has a function to delay a row of MIDI events until a final switch is pressed, and then sends them all out. / per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 10:52:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 189CF183461; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:51:55 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20110215105155.159610@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <402E2203-0A6B-40C9-A92A-4C15B3328732@charter.net> <20110214164032.63000@gmx.net> <4D5970E5.5070806@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+y/0syZm2yh/VPlFiump+LrjxK4c7lnjnOBVjwv4 iW1sXAxhhpRG+G6j/c4M4jkqYsdUQQ+cYgWQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: rzM/DDdKfW47MJNBjGRoubNudmllcgWv Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:52:00 +0000 (UTC) > I took it to mean that it's all retro. Well, I don't think it's about retro, it's about integration. You see, the trend in society and music has been roughly the following: 1. Tradition (40's, 50's, "nice" music) 2. Revolution: (Rock'n'Roll, Stockhausen, electronic music...) 3. Globalization (World Music) 3. Integration (cross over of all genres, blended) So, it's not retro in old-school sense, but mainstream artists use whatever they can get hold off to create what they want. So: it's about Integration. my 2 cents Buzap -- NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 10:58:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE581183461; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x8sx8MCnT09H6I1nEM6L5BIBLCibJgSevjsFem9bJxQ=; b=lK3zD0StXf/QtDeoygRIxk6hX4YcVD65sly8/9kW2ywFdNy31QOvqTZ2v2CJLqQtUg nyQwEjlFOHV2KjnhWPcPG7tgJCCgg1fNr5MjGglxT0YSobYSd/I1c8G+yhDomXCc2XCE C43KwY/HR2Wvngf42bi+LrzHHE5MFHTrukqIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=txy66vCxP4SRhtXAR3/3xjsh5f7xgIThW2Nsmo48FWMONUsFL0iPc9l+1SG03oQXBd ccIe85AJ35CkskK83nUY8V0dtyHCPdg8TqrE1L6Y19iLAbTv4S6cqik7uGDuDgDcnoCl OEPWnubK9XH63/VBF8JVlnkIAnbd92KGfhlFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:58:50 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > Not quoting Matt's post here but I think it is excellent! Well worth a re-read IMHO. One might expand the examples of creative people melding art with market dependent popular culture through public persona projection with John Cage and David Bowie. But in all arts the fine line between "outlets of art" and "carrer decisions" is very blurred... some even say they truly are the same. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 12:42:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B6C1183461; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RoxoyYldRcwVKl1UKkz+/59HKO+y3eD84GNKsCu6ZW4=; b=E+DbWSDXh5JsqWdNRdkJgJJAY8jYMD//VrZHnepzxBLVyRab4BIbmf0R4R28jRfrTN 7pQT91OgPUdhs/cxawvwiT/rQvt0VI0i0Wsd4U3DR34O98kHzxv1LETL4BCWiory3e6s W6ac9TOSlBQtvP+I+BUOJ1OY63wtB11Qd3U0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ks2hzzxO0gKT5aRsYwSyvC/M308OBxolCEVjA+8n1EpXQlkkJtSarga7hGTqDEiCgq vx0E4TgWkalsAvIiSMQkh5e8I81KsbaT42B4Z4K/CSMpD9KeVakkUZMPc2SA45WtLOGo V/YM56j9EZVA6DikWBAAzUWO00WMxa+8K+d38= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:42:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wq_RkIFotC6hMpd2VeD9CqpB3fA Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:42:26 +0000 (UTC) I too think that Xavier should be doing what HE thinks is best for future development of the pedal. Im sure he has the best overview of what ALL his users need. Im sure there is virtual screaming for a mac editor. Im not sure either that the solution we have figured out is quite what I had in mind, although it does open up lots of possibilities... I really want to just set a series of commands to be played in synch with my loopers, and this seems very EDP specific, basing it, as it does on those rather obscure midi notes that are send on bar and beat. If thats the only way, then OK.. but maybe it needs some more thought. ...and Per, the midi choking you describe is surely only apparent on a per-channel basis (that was per-channel, not Per=B4s channel BTW) If you were sending a different type of message on another channel, do you think this would exist? Certainly when recording pitch bend info, you can send waaay too much midi to be recorded properly on one channel. Im not sure I have noticed OTHER channels content being affected by this.. not sure tho... you may be right... m On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler wr= ote: >> Per, >> would it be useful to you to have the LG have the following? >> >> The ability within it's streams of commands to wait for a particular mid= i >> note before continuing. >> >> e.g. you press the LG switch, but the action doesn't >> happen until you play a certain note. >> (and by putting that in a loop, it could happen *every* >> =A0time you played that particular note...but only >> =A0when that preset was selected). >> >> andy > > > As I understand it you first press a LG switch to send a MIDI note on > (or some other event) but this MIDI note on is not sent until you use > some other MIDI controller to send another (or the same) MIDI note on > to the LG. > > Well, I don't think I would use that. It seems too risky since MIDI is > a linear protocol and quite timing sensitive when you start quantizing > and synchronizing; if sending too much data over a MIDI port you are > choking the connection and packages are getting delayed for their > destination. I was active with hardware before computers entered > electronic music and with MIDI it was sometimes a horrible experience, > timing-wise. But this issue doesn't apply to "virtual MIDI" inside a > computer, so if I would find some use for such a delayed command setup > I would prefere to do it in some software rather than in the physical > MIDI controller. > > For reference on this, read the manual chapter on "Sweeps" etc. There > are three sweeps and the two faster ones, I think they are like ten > and thirty seconds long, both choke all other MIDI output abilities > during the sweep's duration. Personally I'm finding only the last > "long sweep" useful because it leaves some holes for other packages in > the data stream so you can still use the foot controller for other > commands during the four minutes long sweep. > > Finally, I think Xavier should use available time to work on fixing > the bugs and finalizing the Mac editor software for the LG2. > > Besides, I read the LG2 manual two days ago and if my memory serves me > right it already has a function to delay a row of MIDI events until a > final switch is pressed, and then sends them all out. > > / per > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 13:30:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4424B183464; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fhlh4srpiOqr6DGp65++pdntebSqIL8onkhnnsuWze8=; b=bfaUcmUpBGMfEf6J2wELLX6PFqYN8lMnNHNSQP+T+Z7heN3eP50K9wsUS1lYTARsd5 8pRgu7mQ/OhYzw7PCXE/eD+KdDpoucHgJmoOqHN41QgDpK7+gdNnRzabe7OIQHp42PIh iKip5eEXf/fpZSaodd06fRXHEyGCZkMz8y04M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RqX/ZADaPYRqG+4KXcTHN/cHsvhAt30QeZKtiDdg9Ydcy8d2C+vgRevE5XR3Xnvfhq xHIA21Uag/WtnXrMyJ3/MFdZYI8R4B/sDp8eFn4qIwtUN+ssql8RzfRoinAG3F4BE4xd DcCn57G6PAQ7eXnCjtk9ZlHpdpAV6taTa5faw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:30:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:30:11 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:42 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > I too think that Xavier should be doing what HE thinks is best for > future development of the pedal. Im sure he has the best overview of > what ALL his users need. Im sure there is virtual screaming for a mac > editor. > > Im not sure either that the solution we have figured out is quite what > I had in mind, although it does open up lots of possibilities... I > really want to just set a series of commands to be played in synch > with my loopers, and this seems very EDP specific, basing it, as it > does on those rather obscure midi notes that are send on bar and beat. Definitely EDP specific. For all users of Ableton Live the same task would be taken care of in a much simpler way: just make a MIDI clip and fill it with the MIDI events in a timing sequence corresponding to the series of actions you want executed by triggering that MIDI Clip. The triggering of the MIDI Clip can be quantized or not. > If thats the only way, then OK.. but maybe it needs some more thought. > > ...and Per, the midi choking you describe is surely only apparent on a > per-channel basis (that was per-channel, not Per=C2=B4s channel BTW) If y= ou > were sending a different type of message on another channel, do you > think this would exist? Not so sure about that. The bottle neck is the MIDI Out port - and if all MIDI channels are going out the same MIDI Out port its gonna be crowded nevertheless. What we did back in MIDI Sequencing hardware days was to use MIDI Out interfaces with multiple ports. Maybe four parallel physical MIDI ports so you could assign outgoing MIDI in a smart way and distribute the stream over those four lines. > Certainly when recording pitch bend info, you > can send waaay too much midi to be recorded properly on one channel. Software use to offer the option to thin out MIDI data and this typically affects pitchbend and CC# stuff. > Im not sure I have noticed OTHER channels content being affected by > this.. not sure tho... you may be right... I've never had an issue with that either, but then I don't use any synced stuff on my pedalboard. The timing critical moment happens on the receiving end where a looper might be set to quantize incoming MIDI events. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 13:37:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF723183465; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297777062; bh=TA8n2BL0/884JSeXGZrcxWtfJstYAFP1YMFdMbZ5nUA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BYAW8tK4bqiR8LSueYJiAYDwv4jNplje8FLisvPemTlYFJdpbePBz+KRo0bzUAvHj9boMY3H8g0fQBo95kpBBE2n1SGBACdCqXnLovu0jkkpXkmE1Z4NGrbizNj5Ny7DpSSQuz9VlAR9fZBZQM5a5e8rhOfZnqD4zkHAHUC0n+E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oiB6Mytm5RcrN7iaNLvfgvJ5Y3Nfh4ctH6olEp7HRF5YB2lOPvonfasUdB+vx21Lu3VZhE5CVT1LRdPShY2be+TP3h077gW+nHSWV2KRk+RIWThrRcqYArQNTInwzC5LZM70q36AZdrLCD+J43ZQ8K60nMJU3C+QsEWtz3vzJiA=; Message-ID: <949930.50312.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cCkAfUIVM1kJgZCYdlrVXbP8AQmsGFL91ZJLS9xXonD.Vc9 br.OTopwqQVHfJEjZAcpFQ7CzMmAZAjmpFI2enqkk985S_blzYRzrTtC0Btn YRvdyQyqQ3EiPWUhSowpZwdEuKRSP6iqlvRub_n.p58V5cv0Z2Cr_NEd6POw fcb_7iYzy3YKS5WqYHvroYZxAPRc0AW3UlfLEMdy5zjekvrWkUEvWFkDw8k7 Adzqgp12PHMi83Nix.Ti7AvY9rDYB6QoaQ5xAwc7VZxfsKEZOcqVH5FzWF.y 798iDO6YE9IfwgWdo7pigwd4btfJV6FdZB6GpXqEi.w8DCr9cQrwtK17vv8P CW7v4h07ccGs0WJR.qd1P X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 05:37:42 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110215105155.159610@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-973429967-1297777062=:50312" Resent-Message-ID: <6j5CxD.A.duH.oGoWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:37:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-973429967-1297777062=:50312 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You mean like: =A0 Best male or female traditional R&B urban alternative non classic latin per= formance by a duo or group with vocals. (from David Letterman's Grammy Top = 10) =A0 C'mon, man. "Integration". Sounds like marketing B.S. from a Tech company (= th "CLoud"). =A0 =A0 --- On Tue, 2/15/11, Buzap Buzap wrote: From: Buzap Buzap Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 5:51 AM > I took it to mean that it's all retro. Well, I don't think it's about retro, it's about integration. You see, the trend in society and music has been roughly the following: 1. Tradition (40's, 50's, "nice" music) 2. Revolution: (Rock'n'Roll, Stockhausen, electronic music...) 3. Globalization (World Music) 3. Integration (cross over of all genres, blended) So, it's not retro in old-school sense, but mainstream artists use whatever= they can get hold off to create what they want. So: it's about Integration. my 2 cents Buzap --=20 NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen!=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0=20 Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone =0A=0A=0A --0-973429967-1297777062=:50312 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You mean like:
 
Best male or female traditional R&B urban alternative non classic = latin performance by a duo or group with vocals. (from David Letterman's Gr= ammy Top 10)
 
C'mon, man. "Integration". Sounds like marketing B.S. from a Tech comp= any (th "CLoud").
 
 


--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
Subjec= t: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days?
To: L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 5:5= 1 AM


> I took it to mean that it's all retro.
<= BR>Well, I don't think it's about retro, it's about integration.
You see= , the trend in society and music has been roughly the following:
1. Trad= ition (40's, 50's, "nice" music)
2. Revolution: (Rock'n'Roll, Stockhause= n, electronic music...)
3. Globalization (World Music)
3. Integration= (cross over of all genres, blended)

So, it's not retro in old-schoo= l sense, but mainstream artists use whatever they can get hold off to creat= e what they want.
So: it's about Integration.

my 2 cents
Buzap=

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From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68dba435a9e74049c52922c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:59:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68dba435a9e74049c52922c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/2/15 Nadia Salom > I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a > process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is > happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment and > the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and bad > in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am > fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I > dont there is such thing as kitsch... > After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream, Nadia's post made me think that various members on this list seem to have the same approach as Nadia, where music is "a performative moment in time..." and that leads me to think about the "live", improvisative, performing side of music which seems very common nowdays. Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here and now" the most perceivable effect of "looped music" (a "genre" that doesn't exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of people on this list care about that side of music. The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians celebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music. So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming in some way "mainstream" for today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it alludes to the unsayed tought: "hey, I don't play written music: that's just so "old": I play "new" music, I'm exploring new fields, so I need to improvise". Which is fine for me, but is music just that and nothing else ? Does music still live off of a performative environment ? Is it still alive even when "written" music is performed ? Does really Music need a performative act to work out well ? Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and more "mainstraim" ? ...just toughts -fabio www.eterogeneo.com > > I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way > "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me. > Same for me, here ! > > I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver > discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word > mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that the > process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performative > process....... > > > Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens: > > I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > Buzap Buzap wrote: > > > I took it to mean that it's all retro. > > > Fair comment? > > > > God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! > > Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the > last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of > appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of > all music though! > > Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im > terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! > It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in > sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... > here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional > emo kid (there always been one). > > As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a > philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night > out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my > evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... > If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, > preferably with barbed wire on it... > If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours > of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. > > If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls > Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, > Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get > me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair > > Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... > > M > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > > > > -- > > http://www.nirmala07.net > --0016e68dba435a9e74049c52922c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2011/2/15 Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de>
I see making music and listening = to music more like a way to develop a process... like the process of proces= sing. so each song out there is happening in a performative moment in time = which reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, there= fore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a social phenomena...= that's why sometimes I am fascinating with music that is more mainstre= am... or kitsch... in the end I dont there is such thing as kitsch...
=A0
After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream,= Nadia's post
made me=A0think that various members on this list seem to have the sam= e approach as Nadia, where music is=A0"a performative moment in time..= ." and that leads me to think about the "live", improvisativ= e, performing side of music which seems very common nowdays.
=A0
Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here = and now"=A0the most perceivable effect=A0of "looped music" (= a "genre" that doesn't exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of p= eople on this list=A0care about that side of music.
=A0
The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians ce= lebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music.
So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming=A0in some way "ma= instream" for today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it al= ludes=A0to the unsayed tought: "hey, I don't play written music: t= hat's just so "old": I play=A0"new" music, I'm = exploring new fields, so I need to improvise".
=A0
Which is fine for me, but is music just=A0that=A0and nothing else ?
Does music still live off of a performative environment ?
Is it still alive even when=A0"written" music is performed ?=
Does really Music=A0need a performative act to work=A0out well=A0?
Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and mo= re "mainstraim" ?
=A0
...just toughts
=A0
-fabio
=A0
=A0
=A0
=A0

I dont care much for what Ado= rno said about popular music... or the way "serious" music is see= n in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me.
=A0
Same for me, here !
=A0

I liked reading this thread a= nd seeing how the members of the listserver discuss this phenomena. If it i= s true that through the internet the word mainstream is losing more and mor= e importance, then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays i= s becoming more and more a performative process.......


Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens:=20
I don't care what they call it as long as the= y listen.=20


On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <= ;akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk> wrote:
Buzap Buzap wrote:

I took it to mean that it's all retro.


Fair comment?


God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought h= e meant its all crap!

Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!!= But of course the
last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulte= d in a lot of
appropriated music... just cool in my book... ha= rdly representative of
all music though!

Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have be= come erased... Im
terribly afraid that its just that we dont know = what they are anymore!
It might be true that the kids are less genre sp= ecific, as in
sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around = as far as I can see...
=A0here the kids is either Rich Kid= s or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional
emo kid (there always been one).

As for a genre-less world being a better world..= well .. maybe, in a
philosophical, religious and political sense... = but when I get a night
out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT = want to waste my
evening by accidentally going to a Country and W= estern Ho Down...
If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a bi= g metallic font,
preferably with barbed wire on it...
If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the= poster to say 4 hours
of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it.<= /div>

If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC...= 5$ entry Girls
Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Wal= kers Live Looping,
Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Onl= y... Im gonna run, get
me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might e= ven comb my hair

Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to = one...

M

--=A0
mark francombe
twitter @markfrancombe

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--0016e68dba435a9e74049c52922c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 14:43:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2C13183464; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580312909/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhoCAIYfWk1YbRf2/2dsb2JhbAAMhBGTILo0kHKBJ4NBdgSPKw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,474,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="580312909" Message-ID: <4D5A9109.1020003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:43:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Per, >> would it be useful to you to have the LG have the following? >> >> The ability within it's streams of commands to wait for a particular midi >> note before continuing. >> andy > > > As I understand it you first press a LG switch to send a MIDI note on > (or some other event) but this MIDI note on is not sent until you use > some other MIDI controller to send another (or the same) MIDI note on > to the LG. Near enough... basically you're saying you have no use for *any* complex stream of commands from the LG. In software, though, you'd use a Midi Note from the Ewi to trigger a sequence? Xavier tells me he just received his Mac, so the mac editor is one big step nearer to reality. afaik he's working on the next "big upgrade" which will fully use the hardware improvements of the LG2 over the LG1. I think Xavier's pretty much committed to coming up with the goods for inventive musicians like Mark. Mark says > Im not sure either that the solution we have figured out is quite what > I had in mind, although it does open up lots of possibilities... I > really want to just set a series of commands to be played in synch > with my loopers, and this seems very EDP specific, basing it, as it > does on those rather obscure midi notes that are send on bar and beat. > If thats the only way, then OK.. but maybe it needs some more thought. Yes, I don't like the edp specific part. ..but I'm thinking there's other uses *not* to do with Quantise, and they could relate to anyone using a midi instrument with a hardware setup. best regards andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 14:59:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8FB3183473; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:59:13 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <949930.50312.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110215145913.231050@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <949930.50312.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Kh65yVBCK/6JFNaxVO8Ei3FffUTepjCKzAJYtbG ChmMsXVbdnPBEGyHCbr8XpiVpDwvjNjkwswg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: +aZpeSsTX1V6DZ12l2ByWFB/SDc4NAzR Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Well, call it "cross-over" or whatever you like. The current paradigm in pop music allows you to mix any genre with any other and come up with a convincing blend. Buzap > C'mon, man. "Integration". Sounds like marketing B.S. from a Tech company > Well, I don't think it's about retro, it's about integration. > You see, the trend in society and music has been roughly the following: > 1. Tradition (40's, 50's, "nice" music) > 2. Revolution: (Rock'n'Roll, Stockhausen, electronic music...) > 3. Globalization (World Music) > 3. Integration (cross over of all genres, blended) -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 15:51:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53AE818347A; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 571720571/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhoCADovWk1YbRf2/2dsb2JhbAAMlzLLMoVeBI8r X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,474,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="571720571" Message-ID: <4D5AA0FA.2050907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:51:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Help! 2nd loop start point is off... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) try SwitchQuant=CYC Quantise=CYC you should already have ^|>^m wrote: > This problem is wigging me out. > > I am slaving 2 EDP's to the tempo from Logic Pro. When I record a loop > the EDP's wait for the downbeat, record and start looping beautifully. > I now want a second loop. Here's where the problem begins. I hit Next > Loop, the loop starts recording on the downbeat, and it starts > looping... however the start point is (somehow) NOT ON THE DOWN BEAT -- > Even though the loop is still in time, the start point of the loop is > shifted forward about a 1/2 beat. When I switch back to the first loop > it switches 1/2 beat later. Now my first loop is out of sync... > > Please help!! > > I remember this happening to me before, then the problem magically went > away, and now it is back! > > ***If you need more info (EDP settings) please ask.* if above didn't work > > Thanks, > Adam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 16:42:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F35D183473; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b8Xa6SSMw/cgLUT8jcRnurxpfz/w0oPEp/70iHYqE/I=; b=umBtRdH/jPyYK0V2/v9d68aU3cfElqHqzSnMjhSOv47C12+GMCrfaV1WK3jPVB7emQ KjseVpdGe9acjncqNVvO8RFC2Orb3B89HFg5qGyMfapx0vdtHxajDx0lvOMM8FiggU6K WSkh8vWgcqR+rnBsmSK/J9guqm+hX1EPpfZ/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HniSk80qAhnyqNSjweE8hcQDHL8a9fF5zCK0/rKs8Nrct+zCErw54bgQQUw6w3znD9 NBoIhwal/hFYz1rUB2FJA1v9C1D2eMIFTXjrO2J6RX8GhHlD6ieCXUBmed4OMrS/N0mB W2OpTigP16kiCQAi//XNq9cnyHRdy9/RYzv9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5A9109.1020003@tiscali.co.uk> References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A9109.1020003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:42:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:42:02 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:43 PM, andy butler wrote: >> As I understand it you first press a LG switch to send a MIDI note on >> (or some other event) but this MIDI note on is not sent until you use >> some other MIDI controller to send another (or the same) MIDI note on >> to the LG. > > Near enough... basically you're saying you have no use for *any* complex > stream of > commands from the LG. "Near enough" ;-)) I'm definitely have use for complex streams of MIDI control data but I'm not certain the LG2 is the best option to handle synchronized sequencing of MIDI events going out. I would rather set it up in software on the receiving send and "playing it safe" with the LG2 by just sending simply notes to trigger sequences. > In software, though, you'd use a Midi Note from the Ewi to trigger a > sequence? Indeed and I'm already doing that! Not sequences though, but multiple commands with different unique scaling targeting a bunch of simultaneous functions in the software; and triggered from one incoming MIDI Note. Sometimes I play that note on the EWI but on other occasions I "play" the triggering note from the LG2. > Xavier tells me he just received his Mac, so the mac editor is one big step > nearer to reality. > afaik he's working on the next "big upgrade" which will fully > use the hardware improvements of the LG2 over the LG1. Yes, I heard that - great news! :-) > I think Xavier's pretty much committed to coming up with the > goods for inventive musicians like Mark. I think so to and I trust Xavier to decide whether something is technically possible or not to implement. We have to remember though that not only real-time loopists use the LG2 (see my recent example with the two shorter sweeps that hijacks the full pedalboard - great for many multi media application but problematic for a looping musician) >> >> Im not sure either that the solution we have figured out is quite what >> I had in mind, although it does open up lots of possibilities... I >> really want to just set a series of commands to be played in synch >> with my loopers, and this seems very EDP specific, basing it, as it >> does on those rather obscure midi notes that are send on bar and beat. >> If thats the only way, then OK.. but maybe it needs some more thought. > > Yes, I don't like the edp specific part. > ..but I'm thinking there's other uses *not* to > do with Quantise, and they could relate to anyone > using a midi instrument with a hardware setup. Yep, the "long sweep" (4 minutes) is my fav that I want to test out with my LG2. There are still few softwares that let you kick off a four minute gradual value sweep while still keep up the work during the sweep's duration. I think it is really powerful to have that available on the pedalboard, as you can address any target in software or other MIDI hardware gear to be "swept". best regards Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 17:59:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C259C183473; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:59:25 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9B51376FF41A-B10-2DF6A@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:59:44 +0000 (UTC) rickeeeee sez> but the market for progressive instrumental music=C2=A0 outside of the jazz worlrd (hell, including the jazz world unless you=20 were a superstar with an already established=C2=A0 track record) completely dried up. i like a good song now and then but i much prefer instrumental=20 music.....why, do you think, that people want their music with words? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:02:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A593F183477; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D59AF6E.2090002@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:02:37 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D59AF6E.2090002@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9B51A9B6E6DC-B10-2DFE3@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:02:54 +0000 (UTC) rickeeee sez> That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent. so are you saying that 95% of looping sux?.....:) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:03:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2659A183479; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3z8UYMHwnLEHzaRXyXZBdRxlBrhMHclqS4QUyc3Sdpo=; b=ijdJnWgNsZja0WM/azF0zMxuNcisHC4zTwn7DkMEkYqDTUeXOrpBxQfe+aJZfGzluN 9Z3nTaIGWE+cDE26lK8WGN64TO28F5SVssUdtEEKdkBMV72JJjWh0GutCCowTudhIXtS OS5cxEpa5K/Fj2FLizejcqk+RdAN0YhQ41mXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YBtOhrbaQ655FmI5TXdoSenKKiVxD9cdnp9n/EwXxrUXoA93cVdmF5Lh5pN4rrFsCU 7o1nBYXKbEvYol76zZJKNm8g01P9AkxNtEdBPrbKk8JRICN+MZtSGVPT6QbdYi4munSd 6d/fqLrNAX1q2c3UutijktsxbMbSeOBA1AOxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:03:47 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:03:50 +0000 (UTC) >andy butler was all: > > so what's the 20% that would stand out as being groundbreaking > compared to say, the Forbidden Planet soundtrack? > What in this decade was unimaginable in the previous? One trend I really enjoyed in the last 10 years is the practice of taking the fragmented cd skipping ideas of the mid/late 90s and reintegrating it into pop music forms. Such as the music of Atom Heart's projects like Midisport, Los Samplers, Roger Tubesound Ensemble, Flanger. As well as bands like Efterklang, The Books, Tuung. I don't believe in the requirement that something must be "unimaginable" in the previous decade to be "new" in this decade. It just requires someone to come up with their own way of doing things. Phillip Jeck has made a name for himself by composing with multiple turntables playing old, crackly records. . ...And the Forbidden Planet soundtrack was pretty groundbreaking for the time. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:16:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F89318347B; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WHwGj/2Heic3CuuifVvXiKpqYq4je0zm+gp0Yd+WrcE=; b=CyQ6COiq3+GnYLLOLZiol4LZYqGptDBVxt6R9CHlNG1lpG4AAnsy6t/fKvC5Fv707l +PW80MSZ8iWGec1beF64SEjPJMhQHYlhf7Pf+QA6ENf0H9O4qz+TYrKPh/oJDCTlVUTY T8Pj3D3K9gMKu6GqmpHcOTqUa5LT9xlDSg/r4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LJB0tsxdjSkIf4+/uXTSGIVIfLfu/1n4J++FgKgy+UBiVCAQgUCP67hjU1q0WHUhFU 9XLK+CJHnF75vew2fe7umVbM4RQD9R+zSljJN4SCElAZg0XwsefMTC53qoROUpTjRVMJ hQqdFLOabHt7sp4uvc1FClyYk/mWOTR8tlCIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A9109.1020003@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:16:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IE7O0tw3FxwnxdAszVSo_oIUkjE Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Weird, I havent really read the Gord=EDus manual that closely, but whe I read something pertaining to this (not sure it was exaclty this tho, im not sutre that the manual is THAT up to date) I started imagining some REALLY complex set-ups in FireworX where slowely over (and I was imagining many minutes here) the CC/LFO sweep changes many parameters at once (morphs) and then back again. The interesting thig here is whether, as an improvising musician, one could "go with the flow" and change your playing style, smoothly, like one does naturally ina band or solo situation. Here I imagined it to be like when your band starts going off in a new direction and you follow... except here you would have to follow your instrument, as it went its own way... I think this is very interesting, especially if there were many different destinations with your sound. Further to this, I started to patch some really slow LFOs from my Doepfer (I can get down to about 4 minutes) But I had trouble converting the CV into midi, so the expreiment ended there... maybe I try again... On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Yep, the "long sweep" (4 minutes) is my fav that I want to test out > with my LG2. There are still few softwares that let you kick off a > four minute gradual value sweep while still keep up the work during > the sweep's duration. I think it is really powerful to have that > available on the pedalboard, as you can address any target in software > or other MIDI hardware gear to be "swept". --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:26:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CF1F18347D; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:26:29 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9B54FC3A7609-B10-2E375@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:26:46 +0000 (UTC) fabio sez > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and=20 more "mainstraim" ? i scream > CLICK "FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:32:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14C14183480; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BzfOyd3uJC6wVwEw+VOsdhI1nPQiFKhfSZ5zV9yYpWA=; b=DfH78vyAWcpBZrS5TMkr/S1bH+PWFhhp9XhVRApcAbWOScn0j6gkSaMzOCVDxfmvNJ jq7QA53sFtTeKzktxC3RclKtenaV6hqbdI4L2oEu3Bcq6+i8jDKY8JyfTXtxTBYVgvac 17SGwk6D+ptZtEOBCW1JboNM8r6heMFYHAbNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tLC01W0kFQLPiVlJsMU/llwCFWxj1F0CvhAAQf7Tcw/gCc686btXanJpF7EuCDlpDy /gkVoRyuzvY132EmoAC4eH1Xo/+7eNDoxbuoc6bXkB1e5y/jFRGgroFH1mLTz26qS9pW u6i/paNS3jwYUvgdOxqHy8T+kFe91pVfR7gSs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD9B54FC3A7609-B10-2E375@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD9B54FC3A7609-B10-2E375@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:32:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642d3a621e71f049c566260 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:32:15 +0000 (UTC) --0016e642d3a621e71f049c566260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ..are you using half speed or rate shift ? 2011/2/15 > fabio sez > > > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and more > "mainstraim" ? > > i scream > > CLICK "FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" > > --0016e642d3a621e71f049c566260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0016e642d3a621e71f049c566260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 18:41:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF70318348B; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k9G+COGzRNPYznq4IpYXqEHAdphrgRtlxKMYgnt79Ps=; b=LFixRtOjYMXL1aegeNXB1dQ5SK/BLlahb+TXm9EKY9zqPcswGIJkl4RIzGI92betYf pGWEr1ZLV38RCPDCnSOI7tmbnb4OHo6crGZ5/esudH/gf2/WRU9J21iGj7fSBB32abso GDfReGf458rARvGBsnHF0B837aIu5nl1AIcfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mDbMsXsfl7BHJLVqLj01o8oNTmsLdjHBdHzVzfcIYrGYmVLg47tzEEyoQpgZ9vUMVC qtLLi0SfRwrL43OZBOMfuL/cw2k2D8/giLLu/GD44lqdp/+fMN+6WFR1wzwNdYFezIfD RYSuyZP4BY8yDt0X6s1JbcvuJLMz63yZbHaX4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <8CD9B54FC3A7609-B10-2E375@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:41:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YVFn2Uw70Iu8gOJXxT5eA-J9YPw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <74CR3.A.LEB.TjsWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like hardware to me.. repeater I think.. ;-) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > ..are you using half speed or=A0rate shift ? > > > 2011/2/15 >> >> fabio sez > >> Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and more >> "mainstraim" ? >> >> i scream > >> CLICK "FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 20:22:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3402C183484; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MOl50HmPS0fIE8zZ3pmFU7bO2ShDMSsa1yKXjI4R4vI=; b=ebzLSS+YVnACUVmDa++4tK1mkapKeKyTFdQRYECOSCp/FIqtfNnnu9CoLGreTtp2hV mLfZz5ph1CePBNBld7i3JVEkv/ffyfI4c8ZBGJKPRU0ZutsjQzKJUGbMIudqHwz5w6ha cAL3qv8JzoFcR4vVeTDqs7EaYS6p7yCFsaPoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qbcpDLAaOqr2GIfQtMrfhtWyz1HX8UDd9iW21KP4SpMHXZeM6LOyxhmzoXKQELC/p1 /K/hQWec689zpuZdiOuQKvWiBLsoGbaK56myJd4h8wFRfxcK/Y4uurx+2wUlMFLoEf0W c7X658i6fhToW24RgzjOaMKK1oktDTMBRrV0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A4563.4080104@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A9109.1020003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:21:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:22:02 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:16 PM, mark francombe wrote: > some really slow LFOs from my > Doepfer Yeah, slow morphing rocks! I run Mobius as a four track looper with separate track outputs and for two of those four loop tracks I patch the audio through an LFO driven resonance filter. My LFO settings are something like 13 bars and 7 bars and the filtering is very subtle, just enough to spill some magic over a short repeating loop while you're busy building somewhere else. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 21:24:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0365D18347F; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <945F6424D4BD4068B56D3F1809A12BC4@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <8898512712182408305@unknownmsgid> <4D53A7E2.6090303@tiscali.co.uk> <4D53DAE3.9000108@tiscali.co.uk> <-2261037728903543601@unknownmsgid> <4D566CDA.8070505@tiscali.co.uk> <4D590AEC.90306@tiscali.co.uk> <4D599D5B.8070803@tiscali.co.uk> <6251267.294.1297728974787.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <6251267.294.1297728974787.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:24:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: <-7GQiB.A.dZF.F8uWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Does this count? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4GDF0RC7s :) Kris www.krispenhartung.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 21:34:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D168B18347B; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+go2Ugm5Kg80vPfvtbPo+qxQPoo5rIoh8dldjR2n zLcdmwP0tlOr7i Message-ID: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:34:03 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050004040503070502010708" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:34:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050004040503070502010708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it would be sad if music wasnt being "written" just because it is performative... and the word performative can still include "composition" in it's make up... improvisation is not a prerequisite for the performative act... also the performative moment can be seen from a distant viewpoint... for example a particular time and culture.... so the use of language and composition plays into the music... I am using the word performance from a linguistic sense so probably I am getting confusing...... ... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose and perform at the same time...not yet anyways... haha... but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a really good piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is based on a mentality that songs and compositions are "results" of a long process... this mentality is coming from a consumer mentality... meaning eventually the songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but if they are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and the author is more or less unimportant. if making music as well as listening to music is seen as a process... like peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does anyone get this?? Am 15.02.11 14:59, schrieb Fabio_A: > > 2011/2/15 Nadia Salom > > > I see making music and listening to music more like a way to > develop a process... like the process of processing. so each song > out there is happening in a performative moment in time which > reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, > therefore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a > social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am fascinating with > music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I dont > there is such thing as kitsch... > > After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream, > Nadia's post > made me think that various members on this list seem to have the same > approach as Nadia, where music is "a performative moment in time..." > and that leads me to think about the "live", improvisative, performing > side of music which seems very common nowdays. > Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here and > now" the most perceivable effect of "looped music" (a "genre" that > doesn't exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of people on this list care > about that side of music. > The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians > celebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music. > So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming in some way > "mainstream" for today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it > alludes to the unsayed tought: "hey, I don't play written music: > that's just so "old": I play "new" music, I'm exploring new fields, so > I need to improvise". > Which is fine for me, but is music just that and nothing else ? > Does music still live off of a performative environment ? > Is it still alive even when "written" music is performed ? > Does really Music need a performative act to work out well ? > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and > more "mainstraim" ? > ...just toughts > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or > the way "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so > nonsense to me. > > Same for me, here ! > > > I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the > listserver discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the > internet the word mainstream is losing more and more importance, > then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays is > becoming more and more a performative process....... > > > Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens: >> I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler >>> > wrote: >>>> Buzap Buzap wrote: >>> >>>> I took it to mean that it's all retro. >>>> >>>> >>>> Fair comment? >>> >>> >>> God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all >>> crap! >>> >>> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the >>> last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of >>> appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly >>> representative of >>> all music though! >>> >>> Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im >>> terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are >>> anymore! >>> It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in >>> sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can >>> see... >>> here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the >>> occasional >>> emo kid (there always been one). >>> >>> As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a >>> philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a >>> night >>> out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my >>> evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... >>> If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, >>> preferably with barbed wire on it... >>> If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 >>> hours >>> of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. >>> >>> If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls >>> Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, >>> Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna >>> run, get >>> me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair >>> >>> Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... >>> >>> M >>> >>> -- >>> mark francombe >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> www.ordoabkhao.com >>> twitter @markfrancombe >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://www.looop.no >>> >> > > > -- > > http://www.nirmala07.net > > -- http://www.nirmala07.net --------------050004040503070502010708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  I think it would be sad if music wasnt being "written" just because it is performative... and the word performative can still include "composition" in it's make up... improvisation is not a prerequisite for the performative act... also the performative moment can be seen from a distant viewpoint... for example a particular time and culture....  so the use of language and composition plays into the music...  I am using the word performance from a linguistic sense so probably I am getting confusing......

... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose and perform at the same time...not yet anyways... haha...

but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a really good piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is based on a mentality that songs and compositions are "results" of a long process... this mentality is coming from a consumer mentality... meaning eventually the songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but if they are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and the author is more or less unimportant.

if making music as well as listening to music is seen as a process... like peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does anyone get this??

Am 15.02.11 14:59, schrieb Fabio_A:

2011/2/15 Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de>
I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I dont there is such thing as kitsch...
 
After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream, Nadia's post
made me think that various members on this list seem to have the same approach as Nadia, where music is "a performative moment in time..." and that leads me to think about the "live", improvisative, performing side of music which seems very common nowdays.
 
Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here and now" the most perceivable effect of "looped music" (a "genre" that doesn't exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of people on this list care about that side of music.
 
The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians celebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music.
So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming in some way "mainstream" for today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it alludes to the unsayed tought: "hey, I don't play written music: that's just so "old": I play "new" music, I'm exploring new fields, so I need to improvise".
 
Which is fine for me, but is music just that and nothing else ?
Does music still live off of a performative environment ?
Is it still alive even when "written" music is performed ?
Does really Music need a performative act to work out well ?
Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and more "mainstraim" ?
 
...just toughts
 
-fabio
 
 
 
 

I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me.
 
Same for me, here !
 

I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performative process.......


Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens:
I don't care what they call it as long as they listen.


On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Buzap Buzap wrote:

I took it to mean that it's all retro.


Fair comment?


God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap!

Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the
last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of
appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of
all music though!

Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im
terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore!
It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in
sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see...
 here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional
emo kid (there always been one).

As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a
philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night
out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my
evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down...
If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font,
preferably with barbed wire on it...
If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours
of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it.

If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls
Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping,
Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get
me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair

Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one...

M

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twitter @markfrancombe







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I like Radiohead - I think of them as being the equivalent of a modern Pink Floyd. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 21:46:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0525818347C; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 90310.43200.bm@omp1014.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=loQu/GEWwnWtQNCfOu+4nH8jwan/3/zGvdLzRlEpTOqV0Cn17dKAEZmaCxaiftRw5Pq/b1e9y76JE7VTQCvknC5g8mvJm/yZFhxCvZYnOV+4rJToZ5HHFQv9w6ZXZtdjlXas3vmkpcQJonoot2NrM+rhPOI/rsSqE1q63W7SN/M= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297806415; bh=+US+c7TihDVcXu4De1CMm0ERt0U0R7m5kBRszzFcnLM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=nS8A+3R4VtPr29obckMxTkXXf0ask8FzW7Du44SyzOJmzi612wdBs2GtI6dPSUsZDfF63LnlVCRcpiei+B/XDkt0XEHdVFKhQvgYzqi7b6KU8l50u3Tyt48PMt2vzdG4btR21KgJi8LgCv7hlqURuVvZmX1Kr/Ku4uY78cWw34A= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: mb7jnwwVM1kJRAIbiYSFKM7Q57NAPI_UgB2hyXbcfaq7XlO vuI0TjOPRu9ttVs4bPoat6kk1svlqxAP1xkIQ3g.p8BY6W4yFP.3X_Nj6l4p gH6cutWp2knI9xqogPdATXUP4j2SGhuVszBVIsKtN2rFMKU7YFtptSLbgahy RjZIQUyK6zyJcg_hJi7wrfIIWxK1IroF9CBhuNx_5m7o78hMtRvm.P1ixyj. LIyfQrY41coGGTJ4A8myjIlal6Ur45x4WHGbuIEgaofAoQP.9QAh._aawD.a t732ELvTBfILKpQ17 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32--475856137 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: (OT) New Radiohead album out for downloads on Saturday Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:46:47 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:46:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-32--475856137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Really looking forward to it - amazing band Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 15 Feb 2011, at 21:42, Matt Davignon wrote: > http://www.thekingoflimbs.com/ > > The new Radiohead album will be available for download on Saturday, at > $9 for mp3s. It looks like the physical cd will be released in May. I > like Radiohead - I think of them as being the equivalent of a modern > Pink Floyd. > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > --Apple-Mail-32--475856137 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Really looking forward to it - amazing band
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On 15 Feb 2011, = at 21:42, Matt Davignon wrote:

http://www.thekingoflimbs.com/<= /div>

The new Radiohead album will be available for = download on Saturday, at
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Pink Floyd.

-- 
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www.ribosomemusic.com


-- 
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www.ribosomemusic.com

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--0016363b8b88b5c42c049c593777-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 22:30:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D38DB18347A; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sKiJ+zDsdYBGd0Qa0mpieINz1YMD05Jot1iaWjHnVt0=; b=q/NpiCXbsLgCIZVjjrqvMx68xkj8jfSRnueG/3OWVaaL6yAYTa0yMKJeGm1Yvbnrf0 pf/ykFsh7XhFJ5dHKpKe3D9ERB/DQ7NQcTs8C2tqcmH58Oaq/881XEJBiPW978h+4JY4 JnO4wxOH4D+6qT8G/HzhMqwycFINryDu6fImM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OevTsirKpQVQBlaAiRa2Xve76L1srjlKBstUi1aHWKVxYHE6ljTVqIVr7Q9DnMoige 64tHYZMoUhFq5cxjs7EgG5P2FRO6l1I1tG7tpD1pl7mLBPV7EEPI/5G2De/fjEte2RrD Rn2qBE9kihU3+gE28fjw3lFGKHWUBwPwz6x4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:29:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:30:00 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > > but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a really good > piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is based on > a mentality that songs and compositions are "results" of a long process... > this mentality is coming from a consumer mentality... meaning eventually the > songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but if they > are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and the author is > more or less unimportant. > > if making music as well as listening to music is seen as a process... like > peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does > anyone get this?? Certainly. Very well said! It is all about living the music. > ... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose and perform > at the same time...not yet anyways... haha... Our minds are slow but our instincts are super fast. We just have to develop personal musical gestures as "instant composition modules" and in the next phase apply a transparent instrument technology to it. Then it becomes a no-brainer to let the musical instincts build new compositions with those virtual building blocks. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 22:48:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202EF183466; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5B02C9.2040709@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:48:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:48:49 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Sounds like hardware to me.. repeater I think..;-) Repeater.............Man, Get with it, you are soooooo 2003! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 22:55:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20436183473; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5B046C.8050007@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:55:40 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! References: <945F6424D4BD4068B56D3F1809A12BC4@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <945F6424D4BD4068B56D3F1809A12BC4@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > Does this count? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4GDF0RC7s > > Awesome, loop that!!!! There's also this one, which actually allows you to sample your playing and retrigger it. As long as you are looping the results, this qualifies FINGER DRUMS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_AI53Kz4Xc&feature=related From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 22:58:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E5EB183474; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YTe2PS2N6HaE+9rwJVesf5H0Zm+ZnA5WQfX1B9ORV9k=; b=ZTVBzyr27JhTk11/4CCZAzeMtKI9SeHbg6loktGN51w+7DduhM0XrHOQQVjsxqfUrG 2x8Ji3Ipi8Fyw3/4i7BcEeLQJ0TiwdqBsWrzq6aYjMiTTsqWKDgMw7O5/L7iLc65dotx 1eoNP5jlaIx8MxmcL6ve5vO+yGPrklUSVkFMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EUKVR5rEfDMyWmH1A20snQBlKEX6Boy2xXdXi9JxVEqoY+t7yER1J71Uq3KpoiBPLW UEhuW1NjIz2INh4+L2EA81xh0E7h+WHPslF8CzdAjixX1s47zcMxTISRIUHawPk1Njs7 FqxlQ4SJi6KoDazrix8Ngdc7xRkfmJkSW7iE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:58:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4lrXRD.A.2s.CUwWNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:58:10 +0000 (UTC) As an improviser I'm not as worried about the process of writing down the composition that I'm playing. If there were such a process, it would probably be rare that I'd take advantage of it. ..because the next time I play, I'd want to make something up again. But, over time I do start remembering melodies, key clusters, and how to get certain unique sounds. What used to be writing music is now recording music for me. With my handy flash recorder, I collect several hours per year of recordings. I can then go through them and save the 10-20% that are worth hearing again. About half of those wind up getting released on CD. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 15 23:30:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF518183466; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+fXaBZzgYx77BwD6UWCIphtNlMoouOPjUgMhd4kaVeM=; b=cSSeZf5zcyfMwqVdZrhV0Qz0cuG5lrlb9lnrM66k1tHPhKYiTVLn8WM7upMyrFmCt2 sBRMKRekPDxo/ureyCnGqkUoU1neRNk+iqQ+FzkhoBDFQvG2F70i6SVWXNfgFnPEreSj ipswLlFN1GogTA18ddgUFbDechaPNO2S5irQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BdupuIeh9LeKGp4qRiNKElldfargM+Fbgi0yURZKQ7Mx/8Kil1mjELkIm1R6rCooDu n7DqMgBCc0Jm4Q1vDOB5FqoSQk7suKYqlk1xiAalXcqq6+f7HP4zOxvzIDdal3+fWYQv E0PU4v1+Jcifhq9GqntZZi9ZAQQ1NGc1Qe+ic= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:30:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:30:37 +0000 (UTC) interesting thread people, So with all the tools to document music how important do you consider being able to read and write it the traditional way nowdays? I personally think it is wonderful to be able to step into a time tunnel from the past and perform such pieces and analyze what this composers where doing.I also wish i could read at first sight with such an amazing accuracy. then again other cultures have taken the time to preserve the music just as well without the need to write it,some come to mind,gamelan,flamenco,indian,african etc. some cultures i believe even forbid writting their music for jeopardizing its magic. I suppose what i dislike about the whole classical trained mentality is the conservative hierarchy and disqualification of other types of music genres. It reminds me of a quotation from Mr. Andres Segovia: "That gentleman, Paco de Luc=EDa, people think that just because he's got the facility to do some of those simple things he does, that he's a genius... any one of the young fellows coming up in the guitar competitions I attend has a fabulous technique, but all that 'pluck, pluck, pluck', that's not technique". Simple things? pluck, pluck', that's not technique" how arrogant!! I recently got hired at a music school to teach kids guitar,the school has been struggling to get kids to stay in the guitar department because of their lack of interest,(and i blame that on the teachers)so they hired me to teach popular styles in acoustic and electric guitar. But what i found amazing is that they only offered me to teach only as an independent teacher and refuse to give me a contract on grounds that im not qualified because of the types of music i teach and lack of pedagogic diploma. Even more amazing is the fact that the teacher who quit before me had a diploma and all of his students did not know the differrence between major and minor chords and could not even play them after 3 years of attending there.I might not a diploma but my private sutdents can play that after a few weeks! i wonder what Eddie Van halen or Paco de Lucia would say if they asked them if they had a diploma before teaching electric or flamenco guitar! So i made a decision after a few weeks to be my own boss:-) cheers Luis On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > =A0I think it would be sad if music wasnt being "written" just because it= is > performative... and the word performative can still include "composition"= in > it's make up... improvisation is not a prerequisite for the performative > act... also the performative moment can be seen from a distant viewpoint.= .. > for example a particular time and culture....=A0 so the use of language a= nd > composition plays into the music...=A0 I am using the word performance fr= om a > linguistic sense so probably I am getting confusing...... > > ... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose and perfor= m > at the same time...not yet anyways... haha... > > but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a really goo= d > piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is based= on > a mentality that songs and compositions are "results" of a long process..= . > this mentality is coming from a consumer mentality... meaning eventually = the > songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but if t= hey > are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and the author is > more or less unimportant. > > if making music as well as listening to music is seen as a process... lik= e > peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does > anyone get this?? > > Am 15.02.11 14:59, schrieb Fabio_A: > > 2011/2/15 Nadia Salom >> >> I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a >> process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is >> happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment an= d >> the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and= bad >> in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am >> fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the en= d I >> dont there is such thing as kitsch... > > > After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream, > Nadia's post > made me=A0think that various members on this list seem to have the same > approach as Nadia, where music is=A0"a performative moment in time..." an= d > that leads me to think about the "live", improvisative, performing side o= f > music which seems very common nowdays. > > Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here and > now"=A0the most perceivable effect=A0of "looped music" (a "genre" that do= esn't > exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of people on this list=A0care about tha= t > side of music. > > The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians > celebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music. > So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming=A0in some way "mainstream= " for > today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it alludes=A0to the unsaye= d > tought: "hey, I don't play written music: that's just so "old": I play=A0= "new" > music, I'm exploring new fields, so I need to improvise". > > Which is fine for me, but is music just=A0that=A0and nothing else ? > Does music still live off of a performative environment ? > Is it still alive even when=A0"written" music is performed ? > Does really Music=A0need a performative act to work=A0out well=A0? > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and more > "mainstraim" ? > > ...just toughts > > -fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > >> >> I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way >> "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me. > > > Same for me, here ! > >> >> I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver >> discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word >> mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that th= e >> process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performativ= e >> process....... >> >> >> Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens: >> >> I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler >> wrote: >> >> Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >> I took it to mean that it's all retro. >> >> Fair comment? >> >> God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! >> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the >> last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of >> appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of >> all music though! >> Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im >> terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! >> It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in >> sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... >> =A0here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional >> emo kid (there always been one). >> As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a >> philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night >> out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my >> evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... >> If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, >> preferably with barbed wire on it... >> If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours >> of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. >> If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls >> Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, >> Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get >> me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair >> Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... >> M >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.nirmala07.net > > > -- > > http://www.nirmala07.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 02:26:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 142A8183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XkLebSn2y7EI6itoFghgq1IbNFxReA+crlYGdhz507k=; b=cMxoKHoZbeD87t1zG9/SOg/F5RLvXi4UPe2EfkFUUG1lfEKLz9dNi4jql9wwn2x6Of rvq24qsJoSJu/DZQ29e5tPU/chmui2PkVJ44hJ5ln2vdR2k8OO+fI859Y3VAn5P3piUv ZbGHLESd4qrCb7JIQwFAqE9W62YtDy53I5pfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ghHx2NnBHgCeuVCaq/svYcyPzRSQSYPDOlMfFVpaqhHooEUWKwttWTiK56y6J4OiHP RwSH04NmiOKQs1YBtlcVfsPJZ8dR23FaxOARcoX3ukF6c9JsTwvY6x0ZH/Ss7YGia2gU NEEVC4kPy4lXWLrJ4Q7hiWBUuTBBh+0pMD5Pk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:26:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Korg Wavedrum for sale From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325555e76b15a96049c5d0122 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:26:22 +0000 (UTC) --000325555e76b15a96049c5d0122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 $400 + shipping. 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--000325555e76b15a96049c5d0122-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 03:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD284183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8pOwWiqI2sKWrFwbmSxyjCtqxC3C7Hgeb8lQDKQV6Pw=; b=Ygp1QHwcSm/78ldnFsYcbQwWFcock5MJ9JDv4zc0Joe0TBmmuWb+hx0KOL0QkjCtcx DgtBTXXTJ+pE48zEsYvLucYLnRVEjrUS1Z5QZMLoFTaUp1Ove7ypPE+oAsa5ewfRX5D1 hXg8g03X2gUMk32+n9qPPOG4pHCks7+QqOVg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kw4ZwsNoOrenZotHNvpuEY7bQs2u+gB+HUIZ5RdqXzWF0vd3Mm7K979LYIQmYhLlH+ vj/KFEYBxdUui17QHrUCPTSnrqVzaJzGZiKbsaE9EHYtZ9hVoNNVAb1/58RgrRndOOgg 7Fe3kKHZBB2K0eEOTXuyoS6omSfLfc6tG3dBY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5B046C.8050007@cruzio.com> References: <945F6424D4BD4068B56D3F1809A12BC4@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4D5B046C.8050007@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:29:41 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: What is the absolutely smallest drum-machine EVER! From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:29:43 +0000 (UTC) That is so good! Made my day! On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: >> >> Does this count? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8u4GDF0RC7s >> >> > Awesome, =A0 loop that!!!! > > There's also this one, which actually allows you to sample your playing > and retrigger it. =A0 =A0 As long as you are looping the results, this qu= alifies > > FINGER DRUMS > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dx_AI53Kz4Xc&feature=3Drelated > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 08:15:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2087A183463; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) New Radiohead album out for downloads on Saturday X-AOL-IP: 69.183.234.236 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Patrick Bishop X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CD9BC8C1F7D54A_88C_3B0FE_Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9BC8C1E268B4-88C-1A8FF@Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.183.234.236] Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:15:07 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:438582912:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c84d5b878c781c Resent-Message-ID: <98sJsB.A.kFC.Pe4WNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:15:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CD9BC8C1F7D54A_88C_3B0FE_Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" But w/o the Helium filled Pig Balloons. PJ -----Original Message----- From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 11:42 am Subject: (OT) New Radiohead album out for downloads on Saturday http://www.thekingoflimbs.com/ The new Radiohead album will be available for download on Saturday, at $9 for mp3s. It looks like the physical cd will be released in May. I like Radiohead - I think of them as being the equivalent of a modern Pink Floyd. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt =20 ----------MB_8CD9BC8C1F7D54A_88C_3B0FE_Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" But w/o the Helium filled Pig Balloons.

3D":-)" PJ



-----= Original Message-----
From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 11:42 am
Subject: (OT) New Radiohead album out for downloads on Saturday

http://www.thekingoflimbs.com/

The new Radiohead album will be available for download on Saturday, at
$9 for mp3s. It looks like the physical cd will be released in May. I
like Radiohead - I think of them as being the equivalent of a modern
Pink Floyd.

--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi=
c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


--=20
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusi=
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----------MB_8CD9BC8C1F7D54A_88C_3B0FE_Webmail-m104.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 09:58:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DF2B183475; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10000 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:58:01 UTC Message-ID: <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:11:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110215-2, 15/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8688851056452943538 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.40.101 (ip-101.net-82-216-40.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:58:01 +0000 (UTC) i got three custom midi controlers, with the ability to choose wich echoplex i command, one or two or all... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louie Angulo" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video > wow cool boost but how many midi controllers do you have? i see you > are constantly moving around! > cheers > Luis > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM, boost wrote: >> Hi Everybody ! >> on this video there is no sequencer. >> i have 4 echoplex synced by brother sync. >> the idea is simple, the first loop i do is a very short loop, something >> like >> 20 ms. >> then i do multiply on each instrument that can be different, i may have >> 19 >> cycles on bass, 13 cycles on guitar, and 11 on drums. >> of course i do intensive use of quantized (Q=cycle) sus-replace... >> at the end of the song i do a multiply on all 4 echoplex. going to 6 >> cycles >> then 5 cycles , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1... end of the song. >> no random, no sequencers, but heavy polyrythms !!! >> thanks >> boost >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louie Angulo" >> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:01 PM >> Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video >> >> >>> hey Booster this is awesome! and very interesting how you are doing >>> this but it would be nice if u gave us more detalis in how you used >>> the sequencer to throw this random messages,would you care to share >>> that with us? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:46 PM, boost wrote: >>>> >>>> Hope you'll enjoy... >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61j99zHAnaQ >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 11:02:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBAC1183476; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577688490/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRAt/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="577688490" Message-ID: <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:02:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-gh1B.A.iF.u66WNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon wrote: >> andy butler was all: >> >> so what's the 20% that would stand out as being groundbreaking >> compared to say, the Forbidden Planet soundtrack? >> What in this decade was unimaginable in the previous? > > One trend I really enjoyed in the last 10 years is the practice of > taking the fragmented cd skipping ideas of the mid/late 90s and > reintegrating it into pop music forms. Such as the music of Atom > Heart's projects like Midisport, Los Samplers, Roger Tubesound > Ensemble, Flanger. As well as bands like Efterklang, The Books, Tuung. thanks Matt, I'll check some of these out. Have to admit that my immediate reaction is one of disappointment if the "new thing" is based on cd skipping. > > I don't believe in the requirement that something must be > "unimaginable" in the previous decade to be "new" in this decade. It > just requires someone to come up with their own way of doing things. > Phillip Jeck has made a name for himself by composing with multiple > turntables playing old, crackly records. . Jeck isn't new in this century, let alone this decade. Used to catch him occasionally on bbc radio in the 90's. (wish I could remember the name of the program) > > ...And the Forbidden Planet soundtrack was pretty groundbreaking for the time. er..yup Did you follow the link that Samba posted? amazing http://www.janebrockman.org/BebeBarron/BebeBarron.html http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/03/04/bebe-barron-on-the-cybernetics-of-electronic-music-circuits/ andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 12:25:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68EC3183464; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GMELVESYg4THRUjQKjRIH8nLS04vGdec3pN+gbVFZgE=; b=B53HHrBy+mdAm7kycnQA1socedMbkBTDGQHgvE7NlIyV/RGClWa2LswYvYGGpoCiQK fvhHc9cnFh3wDHWfVF3e8dRTARE6cBPhV48XsAiVmWKqRyqFlndnfAOQHb/v2Oyoantb GeYCKOTUoVKl1U3iZodC0fJ87s5739Wu3fAPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rOFXX/3iNy9jeL0nVgAA712l8mEz231SZ2i128Z2TXzauGkefDLxc8/pC+u3AASVtF RwxMMFg6zeRU90LRtmVHrlNPOvx//xaWrc1tKj9ZRRx3P1OWkStCbaVlorZCPNgZ3syO /diQlQUufqt7y+sIIMvNjyGUliKpJ+bo2xNig= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:25:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68e7f8beed87a049c655e0e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:25:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68e7f8beed87a049c655e0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/2/16 Louie Angulo > I suppose what i dislike about the whole classical trained mentality > is the conservative hierarchy and disqualification of other types of > music genres. > You're right, Louis. Same for me, but I was lucky enough to get a piano teatcher with wide view about music. Some years after I started taking lessons with her (1986 or so) she asked m= e to bring her to a concert that I would choose. Well...I brought her to a gig of ....."Paco De Lucia Sextet": at the end sh= e asked me if I could make a cassette of that music. That night changed our relationship "teatcher-pupil" >From that moment, she often asked me to go and listen some of the music I liked at that time, or to record cassette for her and even playing my own rudimental piano composition for her. So I was lucky enough to get the discipline and knowledge of classical musi= c without loosing attention to "outer" music. > > It reminds me of a quotation from Mr. Andres Segovia: > > "That gentleman, Paco de Luc=EDa, people think that just because he's > got the facility to do some of those simple things he does, that he's > a genius... any one of the young fellows coming up in the guitar > competitions I attend has a fabulous technique, but all that 'pluck, > pluck, pluck', that's not technique". > > Simple things? pluck, pluck', that's not technique" how arrogant!! > ...and crazy ! Just listen to the "Concierto de Aranjuez" executed by Segovia and that one from Paco and then tell me who the genius is ! (with no offense for Segovia= , who is a BIG !) What I ever loved in Paco playing is that - despite the speed of his playin= g - e a c h single note is played for what it means in the musical context. Hid dynamic are really great IMO. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Nadia Salom wrote: > > I think it would be sad if music wasnt being "written" just because it > is > > performative... and the word performative can still include "compositio= n" > in > > it's make up... improvisation is not a prerequisite for the performativ= e > > act... also the performative moment can be seen from a distant > viewpoint... > > for example a particular time and culture.... so the use of language a= nd > > composition plays into the music... I am using the word performance fr= om > a > > linguistic sense so probably I am getting confusing...... > > > > ... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose and > perform > > at the same time...not yet anyways... haha... > > > > but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a really > good > > piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is bas= ed > on > > a mentality that songs and compositions are "results" of a long > process... > > this mentality is coming from a consumer mentality... meaning eventuall= y > the > > songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but if > they > > are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and the author = is > > more or less unimportant. > > > > if making music as well as listening to music is seen as a process... > like > > peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does > > anyone get this?? > > > > Am 15.02.11 14:59, schrieb Fabio_A: > > > > 2011/2/15 Nadia Salom > >> > >> I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a > >> process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is > >> happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment > and > >> the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good a= nd > bad > >> in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am > >> fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the > end I > >> dont there is such thing as kitsch... > > > > > > After all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream, > > Nadia's post > > made me think that various members on this list seem to have the same > > approach as Nadia, where music is "a performative moment in time..." an= d > > that leads me to think about the "live", improvisative, performing side > of > > music which seems very common nowdays. > > > > Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the "here and > > now" the most perceivable effect of "looped music" (a "genre" that > doesn't > > exist, IMO), so I can see why lot of people on this list care about tha= t > > side of music. > > > > The fact is that..... in almost in evey corner, I can see musicians > > celebrating the improvisational and/or performative side of their music= . > > So, it sound to me like that aspect is becoming in some way "mainstream= " > for > > today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it alludes to the unsaye= d > > tought: "hey, I don't play written music: that's just so "old": I > play "new" > > music, I'm exploring new fields, so I need to improvise". > > > > Which is fine for me, but is music just that and nothing else ? > > Does music still live off of a performative environment ? > > Is it still alive even when "written" music is performed ? > > Does really Music need a performative act to work out well ? > > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and mor= e > > "mainstraim" ? > > > > ...just toughts > > > > -fabio > > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > > > > > > >> > >> I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the wa= y > >> "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me. > > > > > > Same for me, here ! > > > >> > >> I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserv= er > >> discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the wo= rd > >> mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that > the > >> process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a > performative > >> process....... > >> > >> > >> Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens: > >> > >> I don't care what they call it as long as they listen. > >> Matt Stevens > >> www.mattstevensguitar.com > >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler > >> wrote: > >> > >> Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> > >> I took it to mean that it's all retro. > >> > >> Fair comment? > >> > >> God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap! > >> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the > >> last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of > >> appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of > >> all music though! > >> Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im > >> terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore! > >> It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in > >> sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see... > >> here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional > >> emo kid (there always been one). > >> As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a > >> philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night > >> out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my > >> evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down... > >> If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font, > >> preferably with barbed wire on it... > >> If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours > >> of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it. > >> If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls > >> Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping, > >> Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get > >> me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair > >> Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one... > >> M > >> -- > >> mark francombe > >> www.markfrancombe.com > >> www.ordoabkhao.com > >> twitter @markfrancombe > >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 > >> http://www.looop.no > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> http://www.nirmala07.net > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.nirmala07.net > > --0016e68e7f8beed87a049c655e0e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2011/2/16 Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com= >
I suppose what i dislike about t= he whole classical trained mentality
is the conservative hierarchy and d= isqualification of other types of
music genres.
You're right, Louis. Same for me, but I was lucky enough to get a = piano teatcher with wide view about music.
Some years=A0after I started taking lessons with her (1986 or so) she = asked me to bring her to a concert that I would choose.
Well...I brought her to a gig of ....."Paco De Lucia Sextet"= : at the end she asked me if I could make a cassette of that music.
That night changed our relationship "teatcher-pupil"
From that moment, she often asked me to go and listen some of the musi= c I liked at that time, or to record cassette for her and even playing my o= wn rudimental piano composition for her.
So I was lucky enough to get the discipline and knowledge of classical= music without loosing attention to=A0"outer" music.
=A0

It reminds me of a quotation= from Mr. Andres Segovia:

"That gentleman, Paco de Luc=EDa, peo= ple think that just because he's
got the facility to do some of those simple things he does, that he'sa genius... any one of the young fellows coming up in the guitar
compe= titions I attend has a fabulous technique, but all that 'pluck,
pluck, pluck', that's not technique".

Simple things? pl= uck, pluck', that's not technique" how arrogant!!
...and crazy !
Just listen to the "Concierto de Aranjuez" executed by Segov= ia and that one from Paco and then tell me who the genius is ! (with no off= ense for Segovia, who is a BIG !)
What I ever loved in Paco playing is that - despite the speed of his p= laying -=A0e a c h=A0single note is played for what it means in the musical= context. Hid dynamic are really great IMO.
=A0





On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Nad= ia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de&g= t; wrote:
> =A0I think it would be sad if music wasnt being "wri= tten" just because it is
> performative... and the word performative can still include "comp= osition" in
> it's make up... improvisation is not a prerequ= isite for the performative
> act... also the performative moment can = be seen from a distant viewpoint...
> for example a particular time and culture....=A0 so the use of languag= e and
> composition plays into the music...=A0 I am using the word pe= rformance from a
> linguistic sense so probably I am getting confusin= g......
>
> ... maybe our minds are just not moving fast enough to compose= and perform
> at the same time...not yet anyways... haha...
><= br>> but what i meant is that I always get sad when I think about a real= ly good
> piece of music dying away from our awareness... but that thought is ba= sed on
> a mentality that songs and compositions are "results&qu= ot; of a long process...
> this mentality is coming from a consumer m= entality... meaning eventually the
> songs are going to be out of date and eaten up or thrown away... but i= f they
> are seen as the process the songs always continue on... and = the author is
> more or less unimportant.
>
> if making m= usic as well as listening to music is seen as a process... like
> peeling of skin... musician can rid themselves of the industry... does=
> anyone get this??
>
> Am 15.02.11 14:59, schrieb Fabio= _A:
>
> 2011/2/15 Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de>
>>
>> I see making music and listening to music more like a = way to develop a
>> process... like the process of processing. so = each song out there is
>> happening in a performative moment in ti= me which reflects that moment and
>> the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any go= od and bad
>> in music, i just see a social phenomena... that'= s why sometimes I am
>> fascinating with music that is more mainst= ream... or kitsch... in the end I
>> dont there is such thing as kitsch...
>
>
> Afte= r all thiat interesting discussion about maistream and downstream,
> = Nadia's post
> made me=A0think that various members on this list = seem to have the same
> approach as Nadia, where music is=A0"a performative moment in tim= e..." and
> that leads me to think about the "live", i= mprovisative, performing side of
> music which seems very common nowd= ays.
>
> Sure looping is a great tool in that department, being the &qu= ot;here and
> now"=A0the most perceivable effect=A0of "loop= ed music" (a "genre" that doesn't
> exist, IMO), s= o I can see why lot of people on this list=A0care about that
> side of music.
>
> The fact is that..... in almost in evey= corner, I can see musicians
> celebrating the improvisational and/or= performative side of their music.
> So, it sound to me like that asp= ect is becoming=A0in some way "mainstream" for
> today's musicians and - even worse - sometimes it alludes=A0to the= unsayed
> tought: "hey, I don't play written music: that= 9;s just so "old": I play=A0"new"
> music, I'= m exploring new fields, so I need to improvise".
>
> Which is fine for me, but is music just=A0that=A0and nothing e= lse ?
> Does music still live off of a performative environment ?
= > Is it still alive even when=A0"written" music is performed ?=
> Does really Music=A0need a performative act to work=A0out well=A0?
= > Is the performative/improvvisational side of music getting more and mo= re
> "mainstraim" ?
>
> ...just toughts
>=
> -fabio
> www.eterogeneo.com
>
>
>
>
>>
>= ;> I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the w= ay
>> "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so no= nsense to me.
>
>
> Same for me, here !
>
>&g= t;
>> I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of th= e listserver
>> discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet th= e word
>> mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it m= ust mean that the
>> process of making music nowadays is becoming = more and more a performative
>> process.......
>>
>>
>> Am 14.02.11 22:= 34, schrieb Matt Stevens:
>>
>> I don't care what the= y call it as long as they listen.
>> Matt Stevens
>> www.mattstevens= guitar.com
>> mattstevensgui= tar@btinternet.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1= 4 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:
>>
>> On Mon,= Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Buzap Buzap wrote:
>>
&= gt;> I took it to mean that it's all retro.
>>
>> = Fair comment?
>>
>> God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I jus= t thought he meant its all crap!
>> Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the=
>> last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of<= br>>> appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representa= tive of
>> all music though!
>> Im sorry I just dont see that the ge= nres have become erased... Im
>> terribly afraid that its just tha= t we dont know what they are anymore!
>> It might be true that the= kids are less genre specific, as in
>> sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can se= e...
>> =A0here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and = the occasional
>> emo kid (there always been one).
>> As = for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a
>> philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a n= ight
>> out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to wa= ste my
>> evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western H= o Down...
>> If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font,>> preferably with barbed wire on it...
>> If its 4 hours = of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours
>> of Greg= orian chanting, so I can think about it.
>> If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls>> Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping= ,
>> Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna= run, get
>> me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair>> Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one...
>&g= t; M
>> --
>> mark francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoa= bkhao.com
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094=
>> http://www.looo= p.no
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
= >> http://www= .nirmala07.net
>
>
> --
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--0016e68e7f8beed87a049c655e0e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 13:13:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 558F5183464; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cnu6lR0I4y32VHzvafyuR+YPVS24a5emR+HjnpV6eQw=; b=QH7qcMag7RWHbkQMD/lw5M9bk7NJKn7nCoWP8OHiG3MZzT/TyKA+USAnrdQEGoHfs0 12wmdbU7gwpBeTKGFsjDKGQb633ZWXhgB2AjHTpigs98HjYFIyBwlnCD9wFSXTfqF2fx g9lOcEm7UiXO9hrv9Jwiqq4Ij3qjHOdaIyip8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=KF/Fs9ys0XTF8QDz0e+g2hjnYDBhsUxss+o0VBEc5oxmC0eY0wR5Uji/UjWd91zJag Vg3qF0KSanLdw4fxi+M7cxD3oef2ucSDEjjoEV95zx4TQSZpLydlY/S7WXGbjSms7FDo 1Mb0UUzNClsEi4e91/XSkVhJBsslf1VpYc4mI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:13:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HMz2BaByMN7pqeTUife2vyNxm5s Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:13:55 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, boost wrote: > i got three custom midi controlers, with the ability to choose wich echoplex > i command, one or two or all... I like the sound of doing ALL at once.. I cant do that cos FCB1010 only sends 1 midi note at a time, but using Mobius I suddenly found myself doing this technique all the time, using focus lock (thx Per) Its crazy why I never thought of that in hardware.. time to figure this out with MY EDPs I think... Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? Can I make a FCB bank that is both note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 13:18:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7F59183474; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VhCewu3J7+cGkwlgJNnERSrF9fJQcDn3yGn5cYtjzTk=; b=tADcQoDCUS+gO+jEY4pJypnhFaihHnW9VUwqxZoys+AtOmCIGNrtTyiI4gt8RJ6QOk /SpjtjbDZIoPnrkiZPJ7gVovv1+gPbxKzlW7e90JTshRM8zS+xs/W1sXeyFibkuK6XnZ cVadh3zqDSQEu/5TDLHbBUPoDxWWmL2m0TaFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sCsjiGTOn2fCbu2H/CadBxZPKnZp2Nv5YffOP95mH8g0znNFNgFr5o1sDbTnkaaZ4y AWQM8xQhQgjrFexWRKIEvzxoX3swSiBNo5IFqIDcKz+fr1wdFQsDc5/OhxugYRjUXM9W Y1x+sRMN1aIROhz8vlY6PfALs3ZmBX3c0d5qw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:18:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:18:19 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? Yes, but I only used MIDI Notes with my EDP because people said it works better. >Can I make a FCB bank that is both > note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... Yes you can. CC#s can either be swept by one of the expression pedals or sent out at one particular value by kicking one of the switches. I used CC# switches of my FCB a lot when I was controlling an Akai filterbank that had fixed CC# for each knob (the curse of hardware...) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 13:33:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD887183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=85Q6ie6r2h63AU2D5tduPl2yXEv+ydtzCTdjlKLLK5M=; b=dxXASdPwk9AEsjL9EBk8Dqy/PltOrawjsNcO3FTeUlhtqJa+Lx8wkMfGbRezwfd26+ 7FJlkW1EgX/9u8jbCbgP9zEwEyQNpR86Kk8Y6vA2vyaAPNnk0pRdsjuiHTklWBt4wqoq hazppRq7Z5xhrgnnLVApMyGAqr7w6PfYoiQ/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WJNu7swx+HTBNa6o/WdwdICo9qQwEhEesUjdQwYnbPA40yXpSQnm+4hIQssbMvGEnE bbWLhGWWZS3nFKxz0Gwrk90RSXrO74x7QM4mjnfXCxj9hzMFcHNKnW4YfgdUGG/vW4F0 k2IJShNP1MkYMpAC2lJy/k9a1jPuGE3LOCoZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:33:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pXEMBMUhj-ALQa9hVuecNPSeBic Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Just because the new things are based or have some references to the old things, doesnt make them NOT NEW... The Beatles were not new... they were just trying to sound like ... oh I dunno... Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, but they did it better and included references to OTHER types of music, like Indian and English Seaside Fun fair music, and Folk. I posted this before... but I am loving "Shining" in Norway right now, its a supergroup made up of old Black Metal dudes (now they have stopped burning churches and killing each other) and young Jazz dudes. Its not NEW... could be alot of older things and is basically just metal (which I usually hate) but its "genre hopping" is what makes it acceptable to another audience. Noise (ala=B4Merzbow etc) is not NEW... I have been following Massima since the 80=B4s, but the ultra distorted sounds that he created in his uncompromising way have found their way into mainstream Hip Hop (Dalek, Danger Doom) and pop (Mia). Personally Im into listening to extremely glitchy electronic music right now.. heres my latest. Ametsub - The Nothings of the North Antansex - Quanta Craig Vear - Crevasse Blue Ghost - In Stormy Nights Kabutogani - BETOP Khalija - Khalija EP Manathol - BAKETO Panda Bear - Person Pitch Not all are brand spanking new, all are since 2005 I think.. and most are rather glitchy, which is a bit old I guess, but how fast do things have to change to make you happy? --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 13:35:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E5FE183474; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DXaPOdhRotsuIhAmTAeEr7mxir+q+VNIdZ/GHw6NOLY=; b=UqZelVFQCjXc7te875fXIomAdARHE8fcKb6xay73i7xfJ/mVQv1Aj7UBoCkFVokmuc Mp3Vv6mQDrWBovq+u/EnynSQMJ/2TPgDhhTdfZRVnEyI0BL55WUVstkOWXe/1N91YG75 fke4OdJvnNGCVjs/9XXTNP5SL36spCgcEVr1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=dtOi3KTJiA0dyfV/e6WFPOnvgJrO+NB5V8+0VioXd5V9I4yaj2ZA0Z8MHs6sbbIzGW WsKiJSns5gdi7WJsaA2nZFI5SXMwKCzMSlgGOE2dCkqIG61PzoNL/WZebz4W3yNhScni rPHGZm8lw1idNimp4VaFbSsZO7RcQXTBFdfIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:34:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XwzcBaldWQFcMdvGCmMh-9I---0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Gonna post the link to Shining again, anyone might think Im their publicist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0 -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 13:42:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 304D7183476; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NwKWZlgGtj+GSg7UVTD4LwJtxy/bRm0V/kNuZ1SqDz0=; b=sjbfsSe0cerM4HuytsdBZkyBWrTriDMoR8Q+TXUYW6jq9yExM1beNCB7eoCj4k+bg4 t/UCM8MQRmuKUF+AlHf9n5761SOH47qX6t0MhpsjASTceAzIIwv+P3Q6EFhpgrr86tz0 pj5weML5nkkd2fHCtFgd5Mhqv/8EVaPL/dhb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=h/V88lofE2dvp+XqWPY1BFz166Urfjxu6WwKkEdLqVySdsOCEVr9DrvzL9j0QgjUoj Rl6gqZ2gjaQ2+kbksGuDgI9BwOk7GQbgr2CW50xSDoiwqrGLRN0Bb0CJ4o7meEQ0Mv47 DFCP3XNHAhoDCgR7BeTZ7RTpG5KoUPgFjWjcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:41:47 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fug9l03AykWeREL6N72GvKBg3dM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Jeg vill haff to try ziss veldig veldig zoon... for eet eez velly interezting.. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? > > Yes, but I only used MIDI Notes with my EDP because people said it > works better. > >>Can I make a FCB bank that is both >> note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... > > Yes you can. CC#s can either be swept by one of the expression pedals > or sent out at one particular value by kicking one of the switches. I > used CC# switches of my FCB a lot when I was controlling an Akai > filterbank that had fixed CC# for each knob (the curse of hardware...) > > Per > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 14:18:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB088183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580933618/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQCAKNrW01YbRAt/2dsb2JhbAAMhBGTOro9kGaBJ4FOgXN2BI82 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,479,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="580933618" Message-ID: <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:18:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? > > Yes, but I only used MIDI Notes with my EDP because people said it > works better. No, it's either/or, not both. Unless Per means that the Feedback and Volume are always CC controlled independent of NoteSource. > >> Can I make a FCB bank that is both >> note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... > > Yes you can. CC#s can either be swept by one of the expression pedals > or sent out at one particular value by kicking one of the switches. I > used CC# switches of my FCB a lot when I was controlling an Akai > filterbank that had fixed CC# for each knob (the curse of hardware...) > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 14:21:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1988B183474; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GhDyvGvj25yuCwzKyS7ZCHj0cIqV8OPODis7W1kAAso=; b=hBOaP2oMfZAGLtP6DQni0t/289/OgFRqiVeKuR6BxFvyDhVwAPIuhBmk0iHgSiO+Qe ZOYDdPDYY41iJQ9OhItDl5UZZzAwqsE0moEc8QmcQNfnCgBT+0bkemShEIn0mqz4cKho M8NRjYLg1R9qHnKhHQrrNMoWilVwugbHFpkLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ISy/XrcZ7t3KLbAnhmDuXOJ5NVq+eRis0L+dzabvLk80BJaHTseQE6RfMBT5YIUbwe sfCvSmYY0EMhQTMxdDLcwwg0PfmR2hucSY71GjXdba1xoijkQDd1i1Y9YKV56Kf+EyWl /EQstvBBufFF4pSURz4/GMTIu2eOVgWnK91fU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:21:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QAFNNyQK9tXkvMS9YlksTduLsmI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Hmm thats right... theres that setting NOT... If I swapped one of my EDPS over to using CC=B4s.. THEN it would work right? What are the dissadvantages of using CC=B4s on an EDP Andy? Cos I too, have heard that Notes is better.. mark On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, andy butler wrote= : > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM, mark francombe >> wrote: >>> >>> Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? >> >> Yes, but I only used MIDI Notes with my EDP because people said it >> works better. > > No, > it's either/or, =A0not both. > > > Unless Per means that the Feedback and Volume are always CC controlled > independent of NoteSource. > > >> >>> Can I make a FCB bank that is both >>> note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... >> >> Yes you can. CC#s can either be swept by one of the expression pedals >> or sent out at one particular value by kicking one of the switches. I >> used CC# switches of my FCB a lot when I was controlling an Akai >> filterbank that had fixed CC# for each knob (the curse of hardware...) >> >> Per >> >> > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:15:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC05D183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577844766/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEBAA+mPE1YbRAt/2dsb2JhbAAMlj7Ja4VQBI45 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="577844766" Message-ID: <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:15:14 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <7RB5Y.A.NZH.Ao-WNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:15:12 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Hmm thats right... theres that setting NOT... If I swapped one of my > EDPS over to using CC´s.. THEN it would work right? > > What are the dissadvantages of using CC´s on an EDP Andy? Cos I too, > have heard that Notes is better.. Well, my old fcb1010 has gone to a "much better place" so I can't be 100% reliable on this, but here it is anyway:- It's to do with how the fcb1010 is limited in sending CC, otherwise the EDP works the same for both, with CC value 0 being exact equivalent of Note-Off The fcb1010 can't do momentary with CC. no SUS functions. You'd have to program *both* of the fcb CCs in order to access any of the shortpress functions (Like Record ). the second with value 0, Then to get the longpress functions you could just program a single CC. You wouldn't be able to use the same switch for both Record and reset, for example. If you can live with having less functions easily available on one of the EDPs it might work for you. Controlling 2 EDP independently with an fcb is best done by changing the Source# param on one the edps. and maybe the Looptrig# param on both of them. andy > > mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:22:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 115B6183476; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=t+abpUvfC+PTchCBN+sXblxYkUOFRT8e/W56D2zwuAU=; b=JhNp2qrB3vLQo0LwPn5y8QM8WrgPmNF+ngQFVqCBEo78ea7okcDBePDBcFE6x7UvAu J05+W4f+4D1YXN0g5QwAy3JH6JGJ08VA1ODw0aEDy8MKoOhexT+Aodz6HB4bBNBQwD6A I41+7ByrwZQuVX/+swiHkExnRcXZbWH1PxIlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=LohaYZGG8uV4FUF+R/DPkdbGBs6TBKkHFjk9pUzYChjqA/7ZFUAW/bgc9kni+8XK+v 2eNy3+WwQID44AHk7+9cLl/fZr5WTwbQIUZ9Ybd8Vr7aI2t3JuLwbRsIyomp2nA6a22J dtQLIn82wTIeDzZrASSfG9YZL86MWp09ow0yI= References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:21:52 +0100 Message-ID: <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:15, andy butler wrote: > > Controlling 2 EDP independently with an fcb is best > done by changing the > Source# param on one the edps. > and maybe the > Looptrig# param on both of them. This is how I do it today, (unfortunately mine slightly overlap) but the point was to do both EDPs at once. Shame the SourceOffset number can't be changed by a preset. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:24:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CBF5183474; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 258511.56108.bm@omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Db7P5VkL/BsctsUa7c6KW+ioxUntjlAaiFEnNFDYhiIOrvi4eEFhNzoJoArXA7zMioBdlX5gYWgYviYwXN7+a2G7IeKNpnkyYWiMbKe/ewAiQyi2e/tKvfyYXFsbIZa/zzzhzt1YPyIpQvHT6G+oCUYFkqlMsyOJ1iKilOpFhtA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1297869854; bh=Q6BVQrZ6XhadFi6r+6Bz+7mGUReDfzuxbUk8yAHH2dE=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=26/qAVLSDkI2HkFdwwQFrJHF3fXZ2In11YN2l2iz50QVnoVbZDGNrQllnLi9781lzujhwgUjWxldmSO1ZJXU0o7XiFYEyX8kXZjTLox6r8fZTcJRD1V3yhSPsgRSTgwTatdU/nPV0pNn1qWZAST06Y2ZBw9+08iw6JAJbORCeO0= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: fNolQFIVM1n6wLWRHIL1E1s99jdKY4XeElbDXaIQg4hAJZA zM13z3zIIsCLHSCEmvUkuu4katXItXxteTNwNcpbCD.UyxEuhQWcP67Tgi0H PSaUTZyx._TA_Jfcxp2TV1OuEqqdZbg.Q1UkE5bWx7rQMuhwRzrIVjcnwtv4 V9VPxrkvKPgJ4iB8MLfI0gxTnv6z0Wz.uoboC6QeB9.WUBnG2ylBjPaZJDJ3 DQRrLJ78yPvKqS162iWUJ5Xjvb0FDssWCuz4Wz65fXYuaRwPkTi.NpvlE6tp 44kaD.fd5tGPtOE9q X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-42--412418678 Message-Id: <73EB25EE-3EAC-4528-B38A-44A749D44379@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:24:04 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <_emjFD.A.7pH.fw-WNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:24:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-42--412418678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed For Black Metal Ulver are incredible - like a modern Celtic Frost - =20 very brave Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 16 Feb 2011, at 13:33, mark francombe wrote: > Just because the new things are based or have some references to the > old things, doesnt make them NOT NEW... The Beatles were not new... > they were just trying to sound like ... oh I dunno... Chuck Berry, > Buddy Holly, but they did it better and included references to OTHER > types of music, like Indian and English Seaside Fun fair music, and > Folk. > > I posted this before... but I am loving "Shining" in Norway right now, > its a supergroup made up of old Black Metal dudes (now they have > stopped burning churches and killing each other) and young Jazz dudes. > Its not NEW... could be alot of older things and is basically just > metal (which I usually hate) but its "genre hopping" is what makes it > acceptable to another audience. > > Noise (ala=B4Merzbow etc) is not NEW... I have been following Massima > since the 80=B4s, but the ultra distorted sounds that he created in = his > uncompromising way have found their way into mainstream Hip Hop > (Dalek, Danger Doom) and pop (Mia). > > Personally Im into listening to extremely glitchy electronic music > right now.. heres my latest. > > Ametsub - The Nothings of the North > Antansex - Quanta > Craig Vear - Crevasse Blue > Ghost - In Stormy Nights > Kabutogani - BETOP > Khalija - Khalija EP > Manathol - BAKETO > Panda Bear - Person Pitch > > Not all are brand spanking new, all are since 2005 I think.. and most > are rather glitchy, which is a bit old I guess, but how fast do things > have to change to make you happy? > > > > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > --Apple-Mail-42--412418678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 For Black Metal Ulver are incredible - like a modern Celtic Frost - very = brave
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 16 Feb 2011, = at 13:33, mark francombe wrote:

Just because the new things are based or have some = references to the
old things, doesnt make them NOT = NEW...  The Beatles = were not new...
they were just trying to sound = like ... oh I dunno... Chuck Berry,
Buddy Holly, = but they did it better and included references to OTHER
types of music, like Indian and English Seaside Fun = fair music, and
Folk.

I posted = this before... but I am loving "Shining" in Norway right now,
its a supergroup made up of old Black Metal dudes = (now they have
stopped burning churches and = killing each other) and young Jazz dudes.
Its not = NEW... could be alot of older things and is basically just
metal (which I usually hate) but its "genre hopping" = is what makes it
acceptable to another = audience.

Noise (ala=B4Merzbow  etc) is not NEW... I have = been following Massima
since the 80=B4s, but the = ultra distorted sounds that he created in his
uncompromising way have found their way into = mainstream Hip Hop
(Dalek, Danger Doom) and = pop (Mia).

Personally Im into listening to extremely glitchy = electronic music
right now.. heres my = latest.

Ametsub - The Nothings of the North
Antansex  = - Quanta
Craig Vear - Crevasse = Blue
Ghost - In Stormy = Nights
Kabutogani - BETOP
Khalija - Khalija  EP
Manathol - BAKETO
Panda = Bear - Person Pitch
Not all are brand spanking new, = all are since 2005 I think.. and most
are = rather glitchy, which is a bit old I guess, but how fast do = things
have to change to make you = happy?



-- 
mark francombe
twitter = @markfrancombe
=

=

= --Apple-Mail-42--412418678-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:34:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07434183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AcuCQ1Ce12cDdSP+4/QXl9TAGAgqL2bWYeb42r5tJKY=; b=k32vyFT7dO+Uqtb0NSO7aIh9o+fbHksNTWlr+qJno2rVgip7q/mE/vz1WG9VY5ZafZ 4zCM7aDi0E/Xs8qqPfpgWLGofOuHY3Uo3gcc5Mu6znsbTxkKCrPmyiO8rNFfQRzeNwS0 CX0OW+Y3OD6AcU770ahUsKv7VEQnelWVoT3UU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qb6T/tBgnPjuqi6OUhJ0XjUUIUDOXBZ43athx+5nSvZ+AVZPTVIxZYsVC9cZ5rN/nc 3+ObDxT4ytN61blI6KpTdsatHJlC0p62BiFYz25Oxh5gRycdXiCZofWhP5BrRopGTy5t Bnlt5cxy/EdJXsHsHDZ0FIzN3ELyxb+Jr/IDw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:34:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <0z-5cD.A.25H.Q6-WNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC) The FCB has tree pads for CC#s while only one for Note Numbers. This means that you can set up a patch on the FCB that simultaneously sends three different CC#s - each with its own value - to three different targets. If you'll find that useful I don't know... hopefully you do ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:35:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C9A6183478; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=I9A+cBICVDw7lKqeQ5+jqPwdCUqqDsjeIQGDuYTBeXo=; b=Drigx6DLyQIi64o7JK69Q0bXZj86RhFnAj+7cRWbzr1Im0dfxvsSFjxc8opS0il1Ei Gak9ZAYs4CLIZks1xuB5mlO7PnFFV/QLCXb5Ns8PzhMtAIho/feqJqUmXrB6OZrjIh8o Bv3y7hixlM1eDfJlf520KVTEZX4f4YZ5pESOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kwmQrbzJkTAc+g6gHJS1cxr2SGU4mfz1qUpzZ8PCyWeuD4PRUIK5jiDHclm4wlyhse fkKFhpjAwHug5e7H/UTkH6eSYm3jZDMJfmOtfIpuCl1BVKNigrDOc9wkkmzpMK1gwcUI zV0cAbfPJffvtgJYUBO5BsNYXTNcyF0nQP/K4= Message-ID: <4D5BEEBE.3010504@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:35:26 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Louie Angulo schrieb: > interesting thread people, > So with all the tools to document music how important do you consider > being able to read and write it the traditional way nowdays? > Which ways are there to document music? You can remember it, you can write it down, or you can record it. I don't see how anything has changed, at least not in the last 60 years or so. However, there's a big difference between recording and writing it down, and that is that writing music down is specifying it on a much higher abstraction level. Let's take jazz as an example: you usually have a lead sheet, and then you give that to your band and play. And the end result may be vastly different. Now remembering music is different insofar, as by doing so you can take different approaches. For example, if you listen to a performance of a specific piece, you can try to remember it on the "overall sound" level, or you can try to remember what every musician plays, thus making the abstraction to notes and dynamic notation etc., or you can even figure out what it looks like as a leadsheet and remember that. > But what i found amazing is that they only offered me to teach only as > an independent teacher and refuse to give me a contract on grounds > that im not qualified because of the types of music i teach and lack > of pedagogic diploma. > Reminds me of that old story about that teacher at the grammar school I used to attend: he was employed as a teacher for religion, but was active as a composer and had also established a workshop for avantgarde/contemporary classical music at the school. Now this guy had applied for being employed as a music teacher as well, and after some to and fro, got the final decision by the ministry for education and culture that this can't be done because he lacked a proper qualification. Fortunately for that guy (one Dieter Schnebel), he could answer that letter with his resignation from his job because he had just been offered a chair for music composition at Hochschule der Künste in Berlin. ;) > Even more amazing is the fact that the teacher who quit before me had > a diploma and all of his students did not know the differrence between > major and minor chords and could not even play them after 3 years o Perhaps that teacher was following some kind of left-wing-paedagogics-school diploma where it was strictly forbidden to teach anything formal? Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:36:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D99FD183477; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D0fsZ91EAMaafqS8QQ9ovTBZ1ySvllbjOjx5+3Ukp+4=; b=lNyo8Eq8KIMLrZ2RVz5SOIVOgFefc6lrLGKTd3Prw/ogpwYBzoBH1htbQcNqlGGaVj di6jAbHk8JvWfrjcw8k19b0a3+D+jzp2l1mhgVUMs/3XE1V2hBA6RrbqUoyQgRc7qWvL D3+nc3Jj8IYd1Karw3CrqAu6WSuGRUsyQJ7Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZZP4SnnbxvTiXbyAoyMtyw765mXSOC8eyONmHLBHKpvtxhpASt6+QLy8361Flh0/zq YetkRnuBI2dQSVbZ+VdWO8zXsG9cfq89eC6PBlBy81ELnQfDJvvm1pXpBdSgt3/ifEWO w1lKSLXn55fi6zAxjdJcWfIECVGTyarSBPNoM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:36:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:36:08 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > tree pads for CC#s Woopsy... should be two! (I think, better check the manual or your FCB. I thing three is what gives for Program Change events) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4E41183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Yn6j6N6N8M3QgR64zKNgwR2m+7Vua4CpXUfYg7ElUF4=; b=xFNb6/T3faV1lXJk0zptfMi+FF4fFL53I7tU8zl/UecJtV1jALMr0tg78wmwlKRTjd zPWIQONFOUIA4GMQvze0m5SYVI626eY65+5THII6W8OGtaVp4Iq+0V1azag3GE9en9Fw ncpkExey46KvzwDdtb+bp2pWvP6gqNd9KtVlY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Kt0nXCy7HUboB3OupcRCgoTFA0tjWohEkDvG2M3qE/l+FAldXJlkNLOWLKxR/mjcEe 0Aev3ydSsoRy1g40pG5mvdRGTwlolx8RWt70XzR1FLm7HFUgm8oQOVfHtddjD1lSjwDt JPq6/9jC+onw5cr25/RX5wbn0pqBOoiydf6Oc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:42:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Stylus RMX and EDP From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:42:18 +0000 (UTC) hey gang im really eyeballing this software to sync with the EDP i dont know if anybody is using this two. whats really atractive about is is that any groove sample loop is also automatically sliced in pieces make it in really easy to speed up or slow down withut artifacts or to trigger the independent parts with a keyboard controller to program your own grooves. I can also see this being really cool when slaving this grooves to the EDP,you can change the time signature feel on the spot,this could be cool if u have a 4/4 EDP loop going and change the feel of the loops time signature on the RMX spontaneoulsy. questions: how good does it sync to midi clock if i have the EDP as master or slave? How deep is the midi implementation,can i control the software as easy as ableton with a footcontroller and midi learn in stand alone mode to start,stop,change time signature feel etc? with such a price tag would you say is worth getting? cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:49:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A96F183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hQm/lEKKJyiKMVbXch+8myKvJ+oXv2xjMllUlEOnHLE=; b=SwK3rC/xu3GWGPFv+pLy2NFRQbB/wKQWhWiYse/QXkeXrxpulfQbSp7kK0+pE6mG6+ xca1deJ4pkETFgt12exZtkp2sqHx3VybzmmkZjZAH9S6s/sD8KWIEcnTyA6lGUSfVysI v36AiQhxt9jaYqp1O7n3FtcACvlLrTbkJpJq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PI+ZBCbmiR8Knao8HL1bVSu2/Sg1mOrssud286Yxar7lvz8DmYznMVagmlbiuec+d3 i2aAj6TMrhOLlCzBi+sVWTBMgjmTd7Psv+x5q797BchB3QU3d05SM0zw5LNFrCaP2QZq u8De9XO/9Wp75FWnsFyiRqj4eNuK0Vpsb49pE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:48:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:49:01 +0000 (UTC) I think the man to ask this is Andy Butler I dont know if i was doing something wrong but I recently tried controlling 2 EDPs with the fcb1010,setting the second EDP to a different source nr. and sending CC comands instead of notes to it. I should also mention that i had them brother synced. It was reacting weird,i would send a record command and it would reset,it also would not respond to resetting the loop when i pressed the record function for a few seconds. This is why i got the PMC10 recently, i hope that works,AFAIK the PMC10 can set note commands on different channels per patch and not just globally like the FCB1010 we will see... Luis On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:11 AM, boost wrote: >> i got three custom midi controlers, with the ability to choose wich echoplex >> i command, one or two or all... > > I like the sound of doing ALL at once.. I cant do that cos FCB1010 > only sends 1 midi note at a time, but using Mobius I suddenly found > myself doing this technique all the time, using focus lock (thx Per) > Its crazy why I never thought of that in hardware.. time to figure > this out with MY EDPs I think... > > Cant an EDP respond to a CC too? Can I make a FCB bank that is both > note and CC.. wish I was home to try this... > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:51:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F48183477; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580979921/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmMCALuAW01YbRAt/2dsb2JhbAAMl1DLLYVeBI82 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,480,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="580979921" Message-ID: <4D5BF293.70706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:51:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:51:43 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:15, andy butler wrote: > >> Controlling 2 EDP independently with an fcb is best >> done by changing the >> Source# param on one the edps. >> and maybe the >> Looptrig# param on both of them. > > This is how I do it today, (unfortunately mine slightly overlap) but > the point was to do both EDPs at once. you mean the equivalent of using this? http://www.midisolutions.com/prodrte.htm andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:54:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 203AD183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5ENZf4m3iMQ8cHMMwx8rTyrFtZUfk/DHFoFGnKc4fZk=; b=gaA2Rh0m3VzqlTEd7L1fgKcKgBzVgG8Nq2k/Skgl0rkR0cV/fhOxK9TfkK49qkiDmM p+uoQvjtranMc8mQTCUonhgFH7ukxWh5VYwHVXshsazFcDWiNZGZpiyHgt0YtACUs5QL c5AxBBdGlAS5C/DOFuEnohlPugfjA6C6vSaHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ueKfhn6A+80guzj+/CuY6g4z0rDI/9jRnvWwIOJrXTu1S6lVZZZX+3BwNmq+GTY6yI 2Dyol4hSrC9t1lQu18DlxKy6sIss6d0p6LitOrT24xOp9HEInYq/uoYNODShHja0NQtP ZgC4P1yhDoB1zIjIWHOYhy/dO677MCvKzKtck= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5BEEBE.3010504@googlemail.com> References: <4D5AF14B.70802@gmx.de> <4D5BEEBE.3010504@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:54:36 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Music and performance (WAS: Why does mainstream seem more like, downstream these days?) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC) > > Perhaps that teacher was following some kind of left-wing-paedagogics-sch= ool > diploma where it was strictly forbidden to teach anything formal? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer ja,ja,jaja! you hit the spot Rainer those left wingers always seemed to me like cowboys with guns;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 15:55:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB5F718347A; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zVm8h5VvnuGghSK4fwMWOQ3/gIk3WN2HbzMXDBxBQAQ=; b=NXy/RkGzRkBuCTaBADhXGXa3JYzyiNJWc6WFtSTd+18Pu1ervxIp0T6lckTiZiFpYh dPHVYDJVIBppmtmeI+8GJHafonfQQbRhaVs//+sfCCTQwIXxj6fxqXGtjzDjmDZOfHdQ Hu3rweKTBe3OPbHAOvWU8qO6kIQb5vyl6Rskw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PXvHZR2dEzqgs5ajvYzUFISO2k9SdpFZ4dELy3MN7S2LTa4mzItxjpPrd9YgmET8vX USdI0YScM/xyTkdMeIg85+HHdBeBCgizGibXYPPmG8+lGiFKx1W54OS0miuCpsU2tGZ6 sFEJLoQbzoNoJxow2f0Np4vPiWQ/kaf4hcvtA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <73EB25EE-3EAC-4528-B38A-44A749D44379@btinternet.com> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> <73EB25EE-3EAC-4528-B38A-44A749D44379@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:55:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:55:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Ulver yep, I've noticed Ulver too. Interesting musical ideas but a bit too stiff sounding for my taste. Also check out the Finnish band Finntroll, both "retro" and "progressive" ;-)) while playing with a groove http://www.finntroll.net/. Fav NY band Helmet went belly-up long ago but IMHO the younger Canadian band named Cancer Bats kind of bring on that crunchy attitude in metal. I like the humorous stroke with the Bats too. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 16:09:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84FD218347F; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2eyVec7yBWIBgCz68d5QtqkayEpeXZ/Mn7w2ly7JmLo=; b=EZllIVFGt3htWtPyQ5JMLiiNhsVCKElbAye5s7+G2d7/9KoOuPQz1uKLMpDBnzibQO ILypfMPBpksW0Oa7EUHUOWFYPi5Y81lDU+Fhh+WB4Kc3vcDmEhzukoJQrp0cyU6LlJ3O aBt9DewvBVz6QgQ9q4Yi+XPlrkZdk3DAZK5kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cuMT+BHHCpb+kjRECaoRctrfYabWDKBqbYXywW4SQ2j63lL6PVdbSWHfCI80qdHyM3 3DDlsSSYugzaBb4dica91JKml+rSGQm5NlH91BNyp4wJjru2mfKH83fb5n89HGX1r0BR C+CwZj0FVOz6iFzI6MlUNIfg9i8CwZo18S3og= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5BF293.70706@tiscali.co.uk> References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> <4D5BDCB6.6040407@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BEA02.4090309@tiscali.co.uk> <-5595230080625006321@unknownmsgid> <4D5BF293.70706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:08:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) wow cool,would that really work? you are still sending the same notes with same channel from the fcb1010, would it really control them separately even when hooked brother sync? i have this one http://www.midisolutions.com/prodqth.htm but i suppose that wouldnt solve the problem Luis On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > mark francombe wrote: >> >> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >> >> On 16 Feb 2011, at 16:15, andy butler wrote: >> >>> Controlling 2 EDP independently with an fcb is best >>> done by changing the >>> Source# param on one the edps. >>> and maybe the >>> Looptrig# param on both of them. >> >> This is how I do it today, (unfortunately mine slightly overlap) but >> the point was to do both EDPs at once. > > you mean the equivalent of using this? > > http://www.midisolutions.com/prodrte.htm > > > andy > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 16:12:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B215F18348C; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PWnN3zlopCZ5OovCNzI2BjJ7fsvodwA9rCdw5oSYUYU=; b=TIi6Kb+er5HkWvWTO0iTJU316jgMvW6dCZGaE3OLhK19tKFVQj4imRhzlHTyWhAiwy pZl40RdTqX4lABw4tbjzMG/QDj4Y8a36H4hNXAJ4rqJkHLO9rbVq2aCuz5qeKfk4d3ay MobHaewdOd2s+VdJhcmuKqZwQ+D7DSFqEQ/60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Sy5ZFXCtsl1QubhxGYS+TWtOW62fpXk4O+6ZI3l8Kb683Gfw3ZM5uCb1DWxTEd97ed cZXkB2CxE/41QS+ZqgPrITI2hyQ+EMwxo4hCs1aQT38ZwLEl/cpVFzl+i+7os6f2OORW XVVOz5TUcfGZtN3rK7GuwmXw9RLWXTuf3ITrk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:12:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stylus RMX and EDP From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > how good does it sync to midi clock if i have the EDP as master or slave? As good as the host application syncs, since RMX is a plugin. > How deep is the midi implementation,can i control the software as easy Not all parameters are displayed to the host. I criticized this when RMX was released and a Spectrasonics representative answered that "it would be too many parameters if all should be accessible". But I would rather have that because many host apps give you a list in alphabetic order and even a plugin with a thousand parameters can easily be set up for live or mixing automation (check Bidule) > as ableton with a footcontroller and midi learn in stand alone mode to > start,stop,change time signature feel etc? If the functions you want to control are made available it could work. But my experience with using RMX live is that it is too complicated to keep a laptop system stable. Maybe a modern very powerful computer would do better. > with such a price tag would you say is worth getting? For producing recorded music I think it is the best software for programmed grooves. Not only guitar; I have recorded lots of african hand percussion and guitar funk licks that I run through RMX as well. The point where RMX excels, compared to other drum sample players on the market, is the "Chaos" function; i.e. a semi intelligent random generator. If you need this it is worth the price, since there isn't any alternative you can buy to get the same thing. Be sure to watch all Eric Persings demo videos - there's a lot of info and fun! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 17:05:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23B8E18347B; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2433 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:05:44 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.1 X-EN-IMPSID: 8gR91g00Z01P85W0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:24:58 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video In-Reply-To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Absolutely - the PMC10 can send any messages you want in every patch (including sysex). Free windows editor: http://www.creepingfog.com/sean/pmc/download.html At 2011/02/16 07:48 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >This is why i got the PMC10 recently, i hope that works,AFAIK the >PMC10 can set note commands on different channels per patch and not >just globally like the FCB1010 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 17:28:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D706C183465; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.0.0.071130 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:28:27 +0900 Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Dustbunnies To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: What is the absolutely Per? Thread-Index: AcvN/uuz1nAhuPfARJSkmEESwm2gOw== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) On 2/15/11 10:30 PM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:42 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >>=20 >> ...and Per, the midi choking you describe is surely only apparent on a >> per-channel basis (that was per-channel, not Per=B4s channel BTW) If you >> were sending a different type of message on another channel, do you >> think this would exist? >=20 > Not so sure about that. The bottle neck is the MIDI Out port - and if > all MIDI channels are going out the same MIDI Out port its gonna be > crowded nevertheless. What we did back in MIDI Sequencing hardware > days was to use MIDI Out interfaces with multiple ports. Maybe four > parallel physical MIDI ports so you could assign outgoing MIDI in a > smart way and distribute the stream over those four lines. One small caveat, however, Per. Likewise, back in the 80's and 90's, we had a relatively large-for-the-time MIDI hardware studio: Atari Mega 4, Mega 2's, & 1040STfm's running 128 MIDI channels directly, SMPTE/MTC-synced to an analog 12-track as well as severa= l other MIDI sequencers which were then used to expand the number of MIDI channels to an even greater number. Having so much MIDI equipment, we were likewise aware of the bottlenecks yo= u mention, so we decided to do a few tests. What we found out was that, yes, you can bottleneck a port, but it takes quite a bit more MIDI data than one would usually think. It seems that a lot of the hardware manufacturers back in the '80s & '90s actually used that "MIDI choking" excuse as a red herring to hide the fact that they were using under-powered CPU's and lousy code priorities. That -= - along with bad interpolation algorithms -- was also the reason for most cases of "zipper-noise" on many boxes, not MIDI oversaturation. For instance, I'd frequently use my Yamaha G10/G10C MIDI Guitar controller. It alone sends out note data plus continuous pitch bend on six MIDI channels, one for each string. Anytime you're so much as touching a string= , it's manipulating pitch bend data, which is what makes is such a fantastic controller. However, you'd think this adds a lot of MIDI pitch bend garbag= e to clog up the port. Additionally, there's a whammy bar that can pitch div= e all six channels at once, and a pedal input or two for adding continuous controller data (such as CC#7 for volume swells) to each one of those six channels simultaneously. Yeah, this thing should be a MIDI nightmare, slogging down the stream with scads of extraneous controller data, and adding tons of extra latency. However, depending on which synth I'm using, that's not necessarily the case. If I match it up with my Emu Morpheus or my Prophet VS, no problem; it sounds beautiful! Plug it into my Matrix 1000, however, and it's zipper-noise out the wazoo. Try it with one of my Roland or Kawaii boxes, and you can add MIDI lag and the occasional stuck note to those problems as well. This roughly matches what we saw when we tested in the studio. Yes, you *can* bog down a port with too much MIDI data. However, we found that you really have to send constant note, pitch-bend, and controller(s) data on about 13 or more channels simultaneously before you're going to run into that in the real world. Most of the other symptoms, as I said, are actuall= y due to the CPU of the receiving device not being able to keep up with the amount of data. =20 The problem is in the lap of the synth makers, not the MIDI spec. Some of these makers would cheap out on components, knowing full well that this problem would only ever show itself with the top 2% of power users. Others= , as was the case I suspect with Oberheim & my Matrix 1000, had much better chops at engineering analog boxes than prioritizing digital bitstreams. Bu= t none of those manufacturers were averse to blaming MIDI when it served to help cover up their own bad engineering. Of course, today's more-modern equipment should be powerful enough to handl= e this amount of data without any real problem. So, in the end, I don't thin= k that this one application is likely to cause any real MIDI choking on the part of the Gordius, IMNSHO. --m. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 17:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C677183477; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2quaiIaHR605PPVqqCoD/SnZMCSt1pGKcG2ie3BRCmY=; b=EAhLM9N0QmOpT0XRc6sm/jxz2X5KZwKmmJ8lCei5GcvTFJdRY1BQt66x+iv+8Av1y4 5dz9E1fFz4iuO7QgbhXnJ3rwk7MgIaYd+CBFaMFQoJ6ClyU6gCOY9YU5BeyuPtv8LpWm mtWVAWnZP0caC65q/pQJ+hMM/Fh09rf9Dz1rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xdYlniNlmG5afsYYrqvUIgFkfWL+xmWukXnRtZZ5SoyNgiwjRF4KaQfVjNjVEd0LrP YTOrtTYJtvlkJyw6JkIqFj8izylTr99cIMPX6V7zAgtuO25TzenBVyEdnXiB8fvvTLa1 Skp+f0GPcTX8kzg4DLLS+DYfpppmvuCEg4crg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:31:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: mainstream is downstream thing/thread i think... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ce06428375049c69a506 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:31:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ce06428375049c69a506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i'm late to this, don't really have great answers to any of it: do people honestly care about pop music on this list? i don't . do i buy pop music? no. although i will say that i hear more pop music now than ever, that's probably b/c of my wife & kids. i don't think it's bad i mainly listen to our ipod (which is my son's) when i exercise inside (winter snow-hate!). i have heard kanye, katy perry, kei$ha, the songs are ok for exercising to, i don't buy their albums, i've seen a few live youtube clips, pop music is just like it's always been. it's popular b/c there is some beat/rhythm/melody/words that appeal to people on a grand scale. it could be that people get sucked into an image/idea of rock star-ness (i guess this is the lady gaga or katy perry trying to take the mantle from madonna...i guess). anyway. here's a good book to read: "Rock in Time: social history of rock and roll". i'm currently reading it. it's interesting. honestly, i don't think rock music has changed at all. it's always about the youth, there is an image involved (which could be more make believe/fantasy than real), it has ALWAYS INVOLVED MEDIA, since DAY 1 people (elvis is the 1st rock star b/c he is seen on TV, plain and simple), parents/older generation always hates it, bla bla bla...it's all the same, nothing has really changed. comments, as to a few of the things luis A said: re: segovia & technique. i watched a thing of christopher parkening demoing how segovia played. it is very interesting. the range of sounds and how he manipulated it, i'm sure that's where segovia is coming from. and i attended a master class about 13 yrs ago that parkening gave. man, some of the suggestions he had for the students, you'd think they were so simple, but he spotted them in a second & the stuff he said made sense. it's really all about an expert giving a novice advise. the novice can take the advise or not (your choice). but i will say the things i heard parkening say was pretty amazing (and i am not a classical guitarist-AT ALL). he was a great teacher. and i know i've seen interviews where he said that segovia could be VERY INTIMIDATING. i don't doubt that. but watching that demo of how segovia would pick-it honestly reminded me of how danny gatton played. the more tools in your bag the better at creating you can be. the tools are there, you can use them if you'd like or not. as for the EVH & teaching thing-i don't know him, etc, but i've never gotten the idea that he would have any desire to teach anyone. but the thing about him, watch him play (and it's the same w/ hendrix), man he really knows what he's doing. my wife (a non guitarist) was watching clips one time w/ me of EVH & hendrix and her comment was you could tell they are experts in what they do, there is a certain mastery of technique and confidence in their playing, that it looks very different from novice players. and in both of them i'd say watch their picking hands, especially jimi's, he had the loosest wrist i've ever seen. (now could evh work on his interpersonal communication skills w/ lead singers-YES!) as for teaching guitar, more power to you, and good luck. my oldest son took lessons in 1st grade, he liked it, but kids today have so many distractions, he hasn't picked up the guitar since then w/ all the stuff he does (and it's vid games at home!!!). the other thing i'd think w/ the explosion of media, both print and youtube in the last few yrs, you'd think there would be this explosion of technical guitarists, but i honestly haven't seen them. i mean in the late 70s there was Randy Rhoads who exploded w/ ozzy solo and then early 80s yngvie came out, and of course there was the wave of stuff from the 80s (shranel), but i thought w/ all that is available that we'd see more, but i really haven't, but it could be that guitar in pop music scene has really taken a back seat in the last few yrs, really since grunge...oh well.... more blathering than i needed too... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016e644ce06428375049c69a506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'm late to this, don't really have great answers to any of it:
=
do people honestly care about pop music on this list? i don't . do = i buy pop music? no.
although i will say that i hear more pop music now= than ever, that's probably b/c of my wife & kids. i don't thin= k it's bad
i mainly listen to our ipod (which is my son's) when i exercise inside = (winter snow-hate!). i have heard kanye, katy perry, kei$ha,
the songs a= re ok for exercising to, i don't buy their albums, i've seen a few = live youtube clips, pop music is just like it's always been.
it's popular b/c there is some beat/rhythm/melody/words that appeal to = people on a grand scale. it could be that people get sucked into
an imag= e/idea of rock star-ness (i guess this is the lady gaga or katy perry tryin= g to take the mantle from madonna...i guess).
anyway.
here's a good book to read: "Rock in Time: social histo= ry of rock and roll". i'm currently reading it. it's interesti= ng. honestly, i don't think
rock music has changed at all. it's = always about the youth, there is an image involved (which could be more mak= e believe/fantasy than real),
it has ALWAYS INVOLVED MEDIA, since DAY 1 people (elvis is the 1st rock sta= r b/c he is seen on TV, plain and simple), parents/older generation
alwa= ys hates it, bla bla bla...it's all the same, nothing has really change= d.

comments, as to a few of the things luis A said:

re: segovia &am= p; technique. i watched a thing of christopher parkening demoing how segovi= a played. it is very interesting. the range of sounds
and how he manipul= ated it, i'm sure that's where segovia is coming from. and i attend= ed a master class about 13 yrs ago that parkening gave.
man, some of the suggestions he had for the students, you'd think they = were so simple, but he spotted them in a second & the stuff he said mad= e sense.
it's really all about an expert giving a novice advise. the= novice can take the advise or not (your choice).
but i will say the things i heard parkening say was pretty amazing (and i a= m not a classical guitarist-AT ALL). he was a great teacher.
and i know= i've seen interviews where he said that segovia could be VERY INTIMIDA= TING. i don't doubt that. but watching that demo of how segovia
would pick-it honestly reminded me of how danny gatton played. the more too= ls in your bag the better at creating you can be. the tools are there,
y= ou can use them if you'd like or not.

as for the EVH & teach= ing thing-i don't know him, etc, but i've never gotten the idea tha= t he would have any desire to teach anyone.
but the thing about him, watch him play (and it's the same w/ hendrix),= man he really knows what he's doing. my wife (a non guitarist) was watching clips one time w/ me of EVH & hendrix and her comment was you= could tell they are experts in what they do, there is a certain mastery of technique and confidence in their playing, that it looks very different = from novice players. and in both of them i'd say watch their picking ha= nds,
especially jimi's, he had the loosest wrist i've ever seen.= (now could evh work on his interpersonal communication skills w/ lead sing= ers-YES!)

as for teaching guitar, more power to you, and good luck. my oldest son= took lessons in 1st grade, he liked it, but kids today have so many distra= ctions,
he hasn't picked up the guitar since then w/ all the stuff h= e does (and it's vid games at home!!!).

the other thing i'd think w/ the explosion of media, both print and= youtube in the last few yrs, you'd think there would be this explosion= of
technical guitarists, but i honestly haven't seen them. i mean i= n the late 70s there was Randy Rhoads who exploded w/ ozzy solo and then ea= rly
80s yngvie came out, and of course there was the wave of stuff from the 80s= (shranel), but i thought w/ all that is available that we'd see more, = but
i really haven't, but it could be that guitar in pop music scene= has really taken a back seat in the last few yrs, really since grunge...oh= well....
more blathering than i needed too...

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--0016e644ce06428375049c69a506-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 17:33:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0863518347D; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vGSLl0jdzokIEfCwfW7ow6omaRJtXdpn9pOv8Zg6c3A=; b=u5G7ccNhrDsosS/CkkfJP5b+B3zgL83na4VBCFDb1NhisPN1lTGVo43fuH+Wsjx45D AxBIwZolvda7z9QhAvS//E+43OpmPFR/uPjjcJ48wBE6QzL79TOGxFKYbFy8NophZa7t NAocRyhOoZJHVZatNDUAEjtiISPc27PQsELXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R4w2EEMDeTiuCQXgDH2IQNrNJbbt/7vBzQBXTqPqB8W40zxpRP3zyS+SpnCimJpmyI 7to3HegZhH5C1CYW8B+lE8OeMOeT2UuHYlaTmqs9n1Xlc2JqUYmfV4v0qsYN7/4CGJLB J9RWBbfawoawJIqFRmN9RnlssUvYKUmJnrWkA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Boomerang III Setup for Guitar & Handsonic HPD10 From: Butch Band To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d32054b8d96049c69ad81 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:33:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d32054b8d96049c69ad81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, all: I received my new Boomerang III yesterday and encountered some difficulty setting up the device for a minimal config for looping. I have a Mackie mixer (ProFX12) and I was trying to route the Handsonic out to the input of the 'Rang using the FX Send. I wasn't getting any signal into the 'Rang. I thought the output was perhaps too weak so I tried the guitar out into the FX Send - still no dice - don't know what's going on there as I remembered using this config before. I then rigged my guitar right into the 'Rang to ensure the unit wasn't defective. It worked fine in that configuration. I need to spend more time today as I had to quit my endeavors. One thing, though, has anyone else noticed the output of the Roland HPD-10 to be quiet? I turned the units volume almost all the way up and adjusted the Gain on the Mackie fairly high but the output through my amp/speaker rig stilll seems wimpy. I KNOW the mixer/amp/speakers can get LOUD with, say, output from my iMac running Logic. Do I need something to boost the output of the Handsonic? Anyway, I think now I'm going to have to bring my switch into the mix to permanently have an input wired into the Boomerang and selective route whatever instrument to the 'Rang. Any good configuration ideas fro using the Boomerang? Regards, Butch --0016364d32054b8d96049c69ad81 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, all:
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I received my new Boomerang III yesterday and encountered some difficu= lty setting up the device for a minimal config for looping. I have a Mackie= mixer (ProFX12) and I was trying to route the Handsonic out to the input o= f the 'Rang using the FX Send. I wasn't getting any signal into the= 'Rang. I thought the output was perhaps too weak so I tried the guitar= out into the FX Send - still no dice - don't know what's going on = there as I remembered using this config before. I then rigged my guitar rig= ht into the 'Rang to ensure the unit wasn't defective. It worked fi= ne in that configuration. I need to spend more time today as I had to quit = my endeavors.
=A0
One thing, though, has anyone else noticed the output of the Roland HP= D-10 to be quiet? I turned the units volume almost all the way up and adjus= ted the Gain on the Mackie fairly high but the output through my amp/speake= r rig stilll seems wimpy. I KNOW the mixer/amp/speakers can get LOUD with, = say, output from my iMac running Logic. Do I need something to boost the ou= tput of the Handsonic?
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Anyway, I think now I'm going to have to bring my switch into the = mix to permanently have an input wired into the Boomerang and selective rou= te whatever instrument to the 'Rang. Any good configuration ideas fro u= sing the Boomerang?
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Regards, Butch
--0016364d32054b8d96049c69ad81-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 18:27:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED594183474; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:27:03 UTC Message-ID: <4852AFF9D2D64539A3A52D95E8B1B2EA@boo6e771026609> From: "boost" To: References: <57A8376094744FB199DE2C8C26AC7B36@boo6e771026609> <33114397C70B46B496E45563C74E12EF@boo6e771026609> Subject: Multi-Echoplex Midi Command Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:20:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110216-0, 16/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 1541638448551476914 X-Ovh-Remote: 81.220.208.156 (ip-156.net-81-220-208.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:27:04 +0000 (UTC) this is how it works in my configuration midi controllers >> kenton quad merge >> midi solution event processor plus >> midi solutions quad thru. >> echoplexs each echoplex is on a different channel. the midi controllers only send info on one channel. the event processor is duplicating the midi info on other channels according to a chosen midi-note on or off... that's the best solution i found... about brother syncing... - the best i did is 4 echoplex, 5 won't work in my experience (mathhias said i was lucky it works with 4) - doing a multiple rec on several echoplex won't work. i mean, it works a few seconds (minutes) but the loops are not really in sync. there are just quiet the same lenght. what is working is doing a rec on one of the echoplex, waiting for the others to receive the lenght loop info, and then you can do a multiple rec on all other echoplex. hope it helps. boost ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Echevarria" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:24 PM Subject: Re: Booster Echoplex New Video > Absolutely - the PMC10 can send any messages you want in every patch > (including sysex). > Free windows editor: http://www.creepingfog.com/sean/pmc/download.html > > > At 2011/02/16 07:48 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: >>This is why i got the PMC10 recently, i hope that works,AFAIK the >>PMC10 can set note commands on different channels per patch and not >>just globally like the FCB1010 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 18:28:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2656183459; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jn/ogVHOFtj7SBDy8WTf4kIYHHk1RluNYewTXt3Dm3w=; b=SYHf/pZV8jTffgYkszusWSzJRskRqr+BIvxlFRomasN/uLtG/lsf4NzjYycJJzik7y mUanLZch5PzFZgjgqU4fSZjzDbnNFdifZNwzs6hfKI+GFXoA7hzo2ukmgaxBb71SqNBI 5evXjV9IfQ0OFxGmpMdgMippuv5ZTsy8F3XEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pozj8EiFIUgJBd0UAizv+23tMEbv4L+fskUB7p1choIF57T8ZRty/bY0l6GpwChJrm e5VaJvlQRBCxhEbRItf5H1da3TNM/0dBuERwdLuNj9UtFLB5megHKK9M0fN0DCiuxpP1 CtYuBU+ZodQszjVHpQDGQeBPdDspJUY2MFoNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com> <7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com> <4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> <6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com> <4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:28:39 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <-UIkIB.A.FnG.ZdBXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:28:41 +0000 (UTC) There's a tenet of experimental music that I don't agree with so much these days, and it's the idea that everything must be new. The term "new" then leads to the question - what is "new" right now? Is it using the newest technology (Iphones, Multi-axis midi controllers, etc)? Is it adding more frosting to existing genres of music? (Such as dubstep, which while nice, is pretty much industrial/IDM with echoes.) My concern is that the push for "newness" often leads away from uniqueness. Another phrase I've come to dislike is "pushing the envelope" - as if it implies that one's music is a rocket exploring the furthest reaches of space. The problem is that the rockets all seem to be pointed in the same direction - towards more noisiness, dissonance, sonic chaos and extreme volume. That's already been explored and charted years ago. I don't have a problem with those elements - just that we need to stop calling them new. Meanwhile, there's plenty of uncharted space in between the points of what's already been charted. I think finding that space is the whole idea of "personal music" I talked about earlier. Rather than doing a great "pushing the envelope" album, work on a great album where you imagine your name as a tiny microgenre of music. Just don't put that anywhere on the album title or liner notes. :) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 18:56:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4AC2183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T+J9a9L868yxldciQMIxzp3xv0YGiqwaSvYV+28pg1Q=; b=X5Rr8NG+JvhNbGZ6Rg/pZkAE1GuM/cVEkRHEZvID1T2nmdVvAPb95rb2MQQqPAJjWc P0MS9BQNBnYFSlsaImp+2fgrcsIkPNPVa+/LvaGPnIjhieLmBinhvr0ymzFessQVUAoM jVDTNoFkZ4Xcd2M804QHitQyD6mOlWg8IeP/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GzXAubiSrOORMwdd8N4EovRnltle37XJ396EPKT3Z5WzQm8mbbMdK2Uu+YR/3J1zB2 25G/TiriflnUq3aR+GiUn4XDwQ7jG1wFZWPRkJecR4xBlIUvAT+OFZQrCdC+4TX4nc9C lSMsjtgUFXSZ7pbMtZAhvuRpCffYv8lzplZ5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:56:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stylus RMX and EDP From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <2GpDH.A.jwH.43BXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, thanx man,on another note im trying to control some Ableton live midi functions with my FCB1010,so far it only responds to notes fine,i tried it with CCs(i want to do this because i control the EDP with all kinds of notes to keep interference) but no luck.It should respond to CCs,right? Also controlling the tap tempo of ableton with the fcb is kind of funky,if u only press once,the drum loops goes really slow until you press a second tap,is there a better way to set this up? im also sending a note number to do this. for the record i have the FCB1010 midi out into my RME soundcards midi in,and midi out of the soundcard into the fcb1010 midi in, the EDP is set to midi in. thanx Luis On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> how good does it sync to midi clock if i have the EDP as master or slave? > > As good as the host application syncs, since RMX is a plugin. > >> How deep is the midi implementation,can i control the software as easy > > Not all parameters are displayed to the host. I criticized this when > RMX was released and a Spectrasonics representative answered that "it > would be too many parameters if all should be accessible". But I would > rather have that because many host apps give you a list in alphabetic > order and even a plugin with a thousand parameters can easily be set > up for live or mixing automation (check Bidule) > >> as ableton with a footcontroller and midi learn in stand alone mode to >> start,stop,change time signature feel etc? > > If the functions you want to control are made available it could work. > But my experience with using RMX live is that it is too complicated to > keep a laptop system stable. Maybe a modern very powerful computer > would do better. > >> with such a price tag would you say is worth getting? > > For producing recorded music I think it is the best software for > programmed grooves. Not only guitar; I have recorded lots of african > hand percussion and guitar funk licks that I run through RMX as well. > The point where RMX excels, compared to other drum sample players on > the market, is the "Chaos" function; i.e. a semi intelligent random > generator. If you need this it is worth the price, since there isn't > any alternative you can buy to get the same thing. > > Be sure to watch all Eric Persings demo videos - there's a lot of info and fun! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 19:05:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62332183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=he6EryVvJ/iysi+6UvyF5p5Ua/+CwH7h+M61tKP6X2Y=; b=SaswDyz6C7VOg/Br5D8PxNiAMi5Q9Xe7Bis/PCIMOwGHkkvG3yUORcsnj8s5bId7T5 95KHi+5EoTcD59ox91sLRZHdYXoY3BcVGUXuHlLdBdMyNwzQwvmDO4p73pxoXeLLHRrG uGYziiINmTLYlwWAWuWowVEzARrcf4YxZfxhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ez64NOmds87vxJfJ6Hg5K2hUVKrY1rTO+G9L5rFO07uKHYvyUWuRIj93DnLov+mbgA +Jp8L77BSjww/XXSZPgRNdbxkDZmnXOxAsiw5+f95coNydOOVDDi8D54L86kD8yeZ7GE dNp9OP7L2pdLl8bnaJF+PP+eap+o7wqZUVRxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:05:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the absolutely Per? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:05:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Dustbunnies wrote: > So, in the end, I don't think > that this one application is likely to cause any real MIDI choking on the > part of the Gordius, IMNSHO. Sorry, but that wasn't what I meant to say. In my post I answered the direct question whether I would find a certain implementation useful. I explained that I wouldn't and gave two direct examples, that are documented in the Gordius manual, why I would guess the feature might be hard to get right in the LG2. Please don't forget that the discussion meant a quantized and synchronized MIDI data flow. Another reason for scepsis being that there are much more urgent parts of the LG2 to be taken care of. I think the developer of the Gorduis has the best perspective to decide on further upgrades. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 19:11:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1A11183476; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I+JCAM7FxB6pBUBzJaDBLDcAln34rFU3ww+10eOHbNo=; b=AjLazaEHrGbt+7TXNKQgLr6bKJKW9nR8gbj9FNgsaMS0F3AAGwQjba80cGxJcjxtqB kSOANuwv8RHA6FLzKpdKF9WpX4q2dJpwiG2NC/49B/LqK0o6ldSA2wqg/9p1KsbsgglB t8apAj+rKyLQYG5n6WUm4cK9dhPO1xnFuLrL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MgbyhyPEUEiahEjG6IqmUW50hiCqWHh2yokZ649D1voriO3h9i4BjqWx0oWU3yTC+6 82HkTbtSA5Y/vMRpTnRDUVP1FZxnkRxAzt6IMMkGVc63H/Ptfx0ks5Svf/gRCj5mDJ1j PGsRk6/RRF98ZlGjrN3oRI9npyj9Uh1W+E/4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:11:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stylus RMX and EDP From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:11:15 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Also controlling the tap tempo of ableton with the fcb Most tap tempo functions doesn't work good enough for music. Try using Live's plugin Looper instead! You don't need to loop any audio into it, just set it to direct the global tempo for Live. It works as smooth as the EDP when on its own :-) Detailed: Assign a MIDI Note coming from kicking a switch on the FCB to Ableton Looper's Record button. Set the plugin to lead the tempo. Now kick twice; at the downbeat of a bar and then at the downbeat of next bar. Live corrects its master tempo. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 19:14:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 354F9183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=h7lkyBe/topTMw03LLUqal8SXda9YINTwGr6G4c5lR4=; b=TrCVxfXXZIj9R9YFCft6+MBTH2irSIDtu9NYS00kjP6f11jsyPja4HRo/nQVFCABri EVOI2qy/FVbhBMQ5qYhD6xKJNx97mkue90oREPN1orhtsI1NI+m0GCt+L7k4qCFLwIHb EMdMJmtt/C3wV8vx2Vq/+50UJnhxXoHfp7R7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=vlhKH5nJ0ybV2LSp9Mvy3ug838FnmtUU4XX0mauqsNLGfg15w7WEc/5kCSmL/Sxbir zumuBHtpwnP5hgCmaB7o90fCmjDxZYGU5IVk7cC9RdUMpqfVDqt3dyxU8Yh+VYKXZNhH 0vnry7IJH/qqGdryRY/OB+YHR5HwWbJzyiFuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:13:51 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NXtLcWlLnyvc2Oa7IXh78z4CgME Message-ID: Subject: dead EDP....WAS Booster Echoplex New Video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1PiK7B.A.bn.EICXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:12 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:51 PM, andy butler wrote: >> This is how I do it today, (unfortunately mine slightly overlap) but >> the point was to do both EDPs at once. > > you mean the equivalent of using this? > > http://www.midisolutions.com/prodrte.htm > > > andy no im not using a box, just the classic offset technique.. I have EDP 1 set to Source # 36 and EDP 2 set to Source # 0. Therefore When I hit record on EDP 1 I accidentally do a AL (realign) on EDP 2... no biggie... but... hold this thought... huh... The second EDP has NOW just crashed and wont restart... 1 minute later... its dead actually... shit... Just the last 2 days its being acting weird actually.. crashing or putting ups some junk on the display... it never really liked brother synch.. I would have to start it and start it over and over.. but usually it would boot eventually, and then stary OK.. but now there not even power... OK.. first things first... look for fuses... BUGGER -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 19:29:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74B7C183473; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5C257D.5000205@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:29:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:29:09 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Gonna post the link to Shining again, anyone might think Im their publicist > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0 Wow, one also has to name check the Nine Inch Nails/Industrial music influence in this as well. This is really cool. thanks for publicizing it, Mark. rick wlkaer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 20:03:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20BEF183475; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WodYv+pWqOQH94vlwJRyNyQ3oYlBZ1QJjCyfAdrPp3Y=; b=F6o+NYlzrvXWivmf8ehoD/vJOlAOjz1f6b7PIphVFDr5wZ7F8WDRYbkEuUnJYP49id sipbLmv5E8zMrfLH/B+aojSy5l4eZaYs5JY/cNd0D1ZROj5HAv09dMNhfI/mKmIo5bsF 3FpOj+zbMsmHGMzpkigWkXcZi+B7CfoAS2mqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JIWtelh43TYZiOfEXFhV5IpeTJWwgxt95YaFMr2Bve3t14YDh5FCnQT4ROhB+yGcVs NqK/jZu0cayHV3ec6CD5k8h1murgCQ4Q9KMMhQFH0awvVrWU0gTmmjVRlFDbbeed1X/s hTCsPyseINceDddeRc5XhJ0RrN6PhJmmWuHSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:03:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Stylus RMX and EDP From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Oh Per,that would be nice but i have live 7;-( Luis On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> Also controlling the tap tempo of ableton with the fcb > > Most tap tempo functions doesn't work good enough for music. Try using > Live's plugin Looper instead! You don't need to loop any audio into > it, just set it to direct the global tempo for Live. It works as > smooth as the EDP when on its own :-) > > Detailed: > Assign a MIDI Note coming from kicking a switch on the FCB to Ableton > Looper's Record button. Set the plugin to lead the tempo. Now kick > twice; at the downbeat of a bar and then at the downbeat of next bar. > Live corrects its master tempo. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 20:28:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC1D3183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gY/XK5+MXZ2qOKD9U5puqrsLJcSuG63MzGE0L94I2c8=; b=xudG73ohEfzDgKFWuYGGexDlN2GAhdaO6a4NCiTpCKHnpU+I7FpVHMVrgaFeI7cEBk ty9cgaOAHGJko66meo0w6RuyCl6sOuc+vlus7LQSospSCjx9UUDcVfdMfaRkEQhCEbHs 1vcseFrDOr4CLiCLIkmKTPWqAq+kX0JyWadoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Pvu6+OcgUg7ckrpc18FokZ+DO9LvpFX0d83+1PRN5veyUFiYc1UqkD/frh/RHtUcsI z+JfoGwE6qGibF2IphGWz/yLI31cGoOmzPZhBRNb2AVFrUWzDVNziet/HpEDa6rhV1ja uI8jdvjItHKhFuMq64Cpd7fDC2HtcqK6CF76I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:28:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a549259e9a049c6c1fb8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a549259e9a049c6c1fb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LoLZy5BMw&feature=player_embedded Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects with scripts running on DAWs) :-D -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a549259e9a049c6c1fb8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BMw&feature=3Dpl= ayer_embedded

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--20cf3054a549259e9a049c6c1fb8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 21:48:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD1B183476; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 606 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:48:28 UTC Message-ID: <6D2FC05C7EDE44DFA4CA5E09F474B44D@MAC> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <20110211223040.02BE7183477@arsenic.violacea.com><7AB038FA-0812-4343-89F8-6E0C4F28B82B@baymoon.com><4D59008E.8050609@tiscali.co.uk><6A5295F5-E8F6-4C2F-BB68-5439034BA663@btinternet.com><4D59107D.8060608@tiscali.co.uk><4D5A5126.9000804@tiscali.co.uk><4D5BAEB0.7050603@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:38:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:48:28 +0000 (UTC) dear matt, very well written text. thanks. as an electroacoustic music and contemporary music composer for many years, i can say that the avantgard is losing its charm for sure. i just can not listen to any music that is trying to push the boundaries. nearly all of those records sound pretentious. it seems like everybody is trying to play the same exact licks. i have been to france lately and eveyone is talking about the huge cuts in cultural organizations. the whole europe and usa is going through similar tunnel. it seems to me that the future of avantgard - experimental - contemporary musics not lie in the same old commission - grant scheme but something more based on the general audience and fan base. we are going through a major change politically and culturally. hope this will be for the better. best. www.erdemhelvacioglu.com New duo album with Per Boysen out now. http://erdemhelvaciogluandperboysen.bandcamp.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Davignon" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? > There's a tenet of experimental music that I don't agree with so much > these days, and it's the idea that everything must be new. > > The term "new" then leads to the question - what is "new" right now? > Is it using the newest technology (Iphones, Multi-axis midi > controllers, etc)? Is it adding more frosting to existing genres of > music? (Such as dubstep, which while nice, is pretty much > industrial/IDM with echoes.) My concern is that the push for "newness" > often leads away from uniqueness. > > Another phrase I've come to dislike is "pushing the envelope" - as if > it implies that one's music is a rocket exploring the furthest reaches > of space. The problem is that the rockets all seem to be pointed in > the same direction - towards more noisiness, dissonance, sonic chaos > and extreme volume. That's already been explored and charted years > ago. I don't have a problem with those elements - just that we need to > stop calling them new. > > Meanwhile, there's plenty of uncharted space in between the points of > what's already been charted. I think finding that space is the whole > idea of "personal music" I talked about earlier. Rather than doing a > great "pushing the envelope" album, work on a great album where you > imagine your name as a tiny microgenre of music. Just don't put that > anywhere on the album title or liner notes. :) > > > -- > Matt Davignon > mattdavignon@gmail.com > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 16 23:02:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FEA0183466; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1510 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:02:35 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1GmvzaAlhisA:10 a=cL8d8129SG4A:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=q-N76tD0CC7oknaF8YYA:9 a=esqTXQRvJ8Dj_2lXwSIA:7 a=lAEQLgAqcNzMyGWH7-yDvJwfDTwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=B4rO6_MV92dwjVyPKIsA:9 a=xVUmdyVHpfZgq_iZK44A:7 a=u0MkoT2eQeh4TjAkXRetcyT6eVcA:4 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:33:03 -0500 (EST) From: thetoyroom@charter.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Prodigal Son... (was) Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2100137_1686656975.1297895583501" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 46 X-Originating-IP: [12.195.92.82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:02:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2100137_1686656975.1297895583501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline a prodigal son returns... Greetings, gents. I'm decloaking after a long absence, and have been lurking recently. The 'mainstream/downstream' thread is, IMO, one of the best threads in memory since i started following the digest again. I felt compelled to drop in and give my perspective. Here's a bit o' catch up. I've been a self motivated, and mostly self-taught musician for the last 20 years or so, and have been using some sort of delay/looper in my constructions since the beginning. (a Digitech PDS2000, a co-conspiritor, a boombox, and a couple of hits of acid and one very weird night in 1987 was the genesis of this journey!) Yet, for the last couple of years, i've been increasingly disconnected to the process of making music. I dislike making music by myself, in a vacuum, and as age sets in, it's becoming more difficult to find suitable cohorts. Furthermore, my BS meter is becoming more finely tuned, and I have little or no volition to deal with other people who are more interested in their unspoken agenda than just enjoying the process of creation, working hard towards a common goal, and making something 'greater than the sum of its parts'. I've always said that being in bands is like dating. It's an ugly game, but you gotta put yourself in the game if you want to play. And dating is an ugly game even when you're in your twenties. At mid-forties, it's a lot UGLIER. I'm not so into ugly, right now, thank you very much. This situation has been further exasperated by a new undertaking of the last 12 months. I've taken up an intense physical activity, Short Track Ice Speed Skating. I'm utterly smitten, and it's been a transformational experience for me. I've jokingly dubbed it "Yoga meets Drag Racing", which is fitting. Absolute grace intertwined with utter chaos, ripping around in circles at 20+ mph with a couple of razor blades strapped to your feet. For the first time in 15 years or more, i'm engaged in something that is making huge physical demands on my body, with all of the trappings. I'm having to eat better, work out, focus, and enjoy the flood of endorphins while grimacing at the pain of lactic acid buildup and muscle fatigue. Crazy. But i'm motivated to do it because there's a goal....to go faster! (and not fall on my ass, of course, which happens...) This is in stark contrast to the current mental/spiritual vibe of making music, which has been dissapointing, frustrating and very depressing. So, in context of the Mainstream/Downstream conversation, I feel like I have a decent amount of 'Outside Thinking' available. I've got a good chunk of experience making music, but right now, i've got better things to do, and i'm not terribly enamored with gear, musicians, or grandiose self-indulgence. Some highlights that strongly struck me (from reading the threads online): #1. "That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent. so are you saying that 95% of looping sux?.....:)" My answer? If you subscribe to the 5-10% of most human endeavors being of excellent quality, then YES! 95% of looping sucks. There's the outside thinking coming into play. I'm not buying into the 'looping as art' in and of itself as much nowadays. I'm looking at it from a musical, entertaining, artistic perspective. Is this composition well put together and presented in a manner that stands up and rises above the fray? (and if so...how and why?) For the most part, when looking at video or audio of most 'live looping' output, or even looking at my own work critically.....YES, MOST OF IT SUCKS. but if you enjoy the process, and the personal engagement with musical vibrations that it provides, then sucking is ok. Compared to some of the pre-Olympians i've trained with in the last 12 months, I SUCK. But it doesn't matter. I'm engaged, motivated and happy. Which is where musical performance differs from fitness...I'm not asking anyone to be an audience (and i'm not planning on being an Olympian, either!). Music performance kinda demands it, in some ways. And if you want honest opinions, then be prepared to, given the odds, to be part of the 95% crowd. btw, there's not a lot 'live looping', but you can check out smatterings of my musical output of recent years here: http://www.myspace.com/asopaquemusic #2. Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? It seems like there was different interpretations of what this actually meant? I took it to mean "Downstream" in that "You live downstream from me. I throw my trash, do my wash, and defacate in the water....then YOU get the 'downstream' result. I'm not sure if I got it right, either, but that's how I took it. #3 "I can still work on killing the beast, or at least work at putting a few crooked nails in it's coffin." WOW. This isn't the central crux of Mr. Killian's missive, but I needed to reference something. and didn't feel the need to quote the whole thing.. Ted's comments were, for me, so on the money. His comments were stimulating, depressing, engaging, and a call to higher duty, all wrapped up in one neat package. Kudos, Ted. Me like. SOOOOOO.... I'll leave off here. I'm back on board, at least for the moment. And still connected, i guess, in that i'm a new Boomerang III user, which is one of the most fun and enjoyable loopers i've played with in a long time. But the gear is beginning to be thinned, simplification is the prime directive, and days of gigs and band practice are on the wane. I'm off to the rink...as Apolo Ohno says, "no matter how serious you take it, you're still just a guy in tights going around in circles". Kindof like Looping (minus the tights, of course) best regards and much respect, Rich Atkinson ------=_Part_2100137_1686656975.1297895583501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
a prodigal son returns...

Greetings, gents. I'm decl= oaking after a long absence, and have been lurking recently.

The 'mainstream/downstre= am' thread is, IMO, one of the best threads in memory since i started follo= wing the digest again.

I felt compelled to drop in and give my perspective.  He= re's a bit o' catch up.

I've been a self motivated, and mostly self-taught musician f= or the last 20 years or so, and have been using some sort of delay/looper i= n my constructions since the beginning. (a Digitech PDS2000, a co-conspirit= or, a boombox, and a couple of hits of acid and one very weird night in 198= 7 was the genesis of this journey!)
Yet, for the last couple of years, i've been increasingly disconnected = to the process of making music.  I dislike making music by myself, in = a vacuum, and as age sets in, it's becoming more difficult to find suitable= cohorts.  Furthermore, my BS meter is becoming more finely tuned, and= I have little or no volition to deal with other people who are more intere= sted in their unspoken agenda than just enjoying the process of creation, w= orking hard towards a common goal, and making something 'greater than the s= um of its parts'.  I've always said that being in bands is like dating= .  It's an ugly game, but you gotta put yourself in the game if you wa= nt to play.  And dating is an ugly game even when you're in your twent= ies.  At mid-forties, it's a lot UGLIER.

I'm not so into ugly, right now, thank = you very much.

This situation has been further exasperated by a new undertaking of = the last 12 months.  I've taken up an intense physical activity, Short= Track Ice Speed Skating.  I'm utterly smitten, and it's been a transf= ormational experience for me.  I've jokingly dubbed it "Yoga meet= s Drag Racing", which is fitting.  Absolute grace intertwined wit= h utter chaos, ripping around in circles at 20+ mph with a couple of razor = blades strapped to your feet.

For the first time in 15 years or more, i'm engaged in= something that is making huge physical demands on my body, with all of the= trappings.  I'm having to eat better, work out, focus, and enjoy the = flood of endorphins while grimacing at the pain of lactic acid buildup and = muscle fatigue.  Crazy.  But i'm motivated to do it because there= 's a goal....to go faster!  (and not fall on my ass, of course, which = happens...)

This is in stark contrast to the current mental/spiritual vibe of making = music, which has been dissapointing, frustrating and very depressing.

So, in context = of the Mainstream/Downstream conversation, I feel like I have a decent amou= nt of 'Outside Thinking' available.  I've got a good chunk of experien= ce making music, but right now, i've got better things to do, and i'm not t= erribly enamored with gear, musicians, or grandiose self-indulgence.=

Some highlights = that strongly struck me (from reading the threads online):

#1. "That's my formul= a  "5% in all genres of music is excellent.

so are you saying that 95% of l= ooping sux?.....:)"

My answer?  If you subscribe to the 5-10% of most human= endeavors being of excellent quality, then YES!  95% of looping sucks= .  There's the outside thinking coming into play.  I'm not buying= into the 'looping as art' in and of itself as much nowadays.  I'm loo= king at it from a musical, entertaining, artistic perspective.  Is thi= s composition well put together and presented in a manner that stands up an= d rises above the fray?  (and if so...how and why?)  For the most= part, when looking at video or audio of most 'live looping' output, or eve= n looking at my own work critically.....YES, MOST OF IT SUCKS.
=
but if you enjoy the p= rocess, and the personal engagement with musical vibrations that it provide= s, then sucking is ok.  Compared to some of the pre-Olympians i've tra= ined with in the last 12 months, I SUCK.  But it doesn't matter. = I'm engaged, motivated and happy.  Which is where musical performance= differs from fitness...I'm not asking anyone to be an audience (and i'm no= t planning on being an Olympian, either!).  Music performance kinda de= mands it, in some ways.  And if you want honest opinions, then be prep= ared to, given the odds, to be part of the 95% crowd.

btw, there's not a lot 'live lo= oping', but you can check out smatterings of my musical output of recent ye= ars here:  http://www.myspace.com/asopaquemusic


#2.  = Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days?

It seems like there was d= ifferent interpretations of what this actually meant?  I took it to me= an "Downstream" in that "You live downstream from me.  = I throw my trash, do my wash, and defacate in the water....then YOU get the= 'downstream' result.  I'm not sure if I got it right, either, but tha= t's how I took it.

#3  "I can still work on killing the beast, or at least = work at putting a 
few cro= oked nails in it's coffin."

WOW.  This isn't the central crux of Mr. Killia= n's missive, but I needed to reference something. and didn't feel the need = to quote the whole thing..  Ted's comments were, for me, so on the mon= ey.  His comments were stimulating, depressing, engaging, and a call t= o higher duty, all wrapped up in one neat package.  Kudos, Ted.  = Me like.


SOOOOOO....
I'll leave off here.  I'm back on board, at least for the moment.&nbs= p; And still connected, i guess, in that i'm a new Boomerang III user, whic= h is one of the most fun and enjoyable loopers i've played with in a long t= ime.  But the gear is beginning to be thinned, simplification is the p= rime directive, and days of gigs and band practice are on the wane.<= /DIV>
I'm off to the r= ink...as Apolo Ohno says, "no matter how serious you take it, you're s= till just a guy in tights going around in circles".  Kindof like = Looping (minus the tights, of course)

best regards and much respect,

Rich Atkinson
=

------=_Part_2100137_1686656975.1297895583501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 00:13:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55284183466; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5C682B.5040901@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:13:31 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stylistic Fundamentalism: was:Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:13:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > There's a tenet of experimental music that I don't agree with so much > these days, and it's the idea that everything must be new. > .............. My concern is that the push for "newness" > often leads away from uniqueness. > > I am so with you in this thoughtful post, Matt! And that may seem odd, as I actually have always been what I call an 'exoticist' or a 'xenophiliac' in my musical life. I've always desired to seek out the 'new' or the 'exotic'. In more prosaic stylistic terms, I got bored with rock, funk, jazz and soul at one point so it led me into studying different kinds of global cultural musics........to me, the more exotic, the more interesting...........I tried to explore every single percussion tradition........and later, scalar traditions in my own journey. Along the way, I became fascinated with the fact that found objects and objects that were specifically defined as non-musical could be recontextualized to create new instruments..... .......this led me to electronic music (far later than almost anyone I know who has explored those modes of expression) and digital sound design. Of course, the danger of 'exoticism' is that one becomes a 'jack of all trades and a master of none' as my father used to disapprovingly and sceptically say to me when I was a young musician.* At the same time, being interested in large amounts of musical styles and modes of making musics can also make one very unique. But part of all of this journey was just what all artists do: they try to find out who they are and how to best express themselves...........with some it is exploring spanish classical guitar in a tradition that is hundreds of years old without a lot of innovation......or someone like me who flits about stylistically like some kind of ADD butterfly. Because, like you, I have performed at so many new, experimental, avant garde, impovisatory, jazz and live looping festivals, I have come to see that there are 'flavors of the month' and that those 'flavors' frequently are very, very conservative in their implementation and very stifling of creativity..............dubstep is one of those genres, at least to me. I've also been turned down for music festivals because my own brand of experimentalism didn't match what the people who run the festivals have deemed is the 'right' kind of experimentalism. It stung like hell but in the same breath, I have turned down dozens of looping artists from the Y2K festivals because they were only processing loops live and not creating them live. They felt as stung as I did, I imagine. To the exoticist, the enemy can frequently, and knee jerkedly, be tradition, but as I see it, this is misplaced. The true enemy, imho, is fundamentalist orthodoxy, especially when orthodoxy is used in the name of creating an 'Us' and 'Them' environment in musical 'schools'. Loving playing the Blues in traditional ways, conservatively still has tons of room for creativity, expression, passion and aesthetic beauty just as the Electronic musician who craves the new has the same chance in their music. I'm down with all of it, as long as people aren't snobs because of their own 'orthodoxy'. Another thing that occurs to me is that the lion share of musicians on the planet who are really obnoxious about their own stylistic fundamentalism are young musicians (and by young, I mean, experientially young which may or may not be chronologically young). Most people have their healthy share of insecurities but experientially young people seem to be more insecure. It is why I hear my younger friends bemoaning how stuck up the 'hipsters' are in the musical scene. If you aren't rocking fender guitars drenched in spring (NOT digital) reverb with a kind of bright, surf rock vibe and vocals drenched in the same verb as is the orthodoxy of a lot of the trendy Brooklyn bands in indie rock, it's harder to find gigs for young bands..................but it's always been like this (or at least in my 40 years of experience in the music biz). There will always be snobbish hipsters who eschew anything outside of the latest fad. And anyone who isn't inside of this stylistic 'mainstream' will feel stung. Anyway, sorry for the length of the musings, but this post just really got me thinking about it all. **** oh, and by the way, much as I like your post, I have a very small nitpick with one thing you said: you wrote: (Such as dubstep, which while nice, is pretty much industrial/IDM with echoes.) Errrr, I'm not a fan of dubstep to be honest, but I have studied it and I think your definition is just too pat. Dubstep, has a lot of influence from Dub Reggae which industrial/IDM doesnt; it has a preoccupation with very deep and long subsonic distorted bass lines that have NOT traditionally been in industrial/IDM and it also has had a preoccupation with remixing psychelia which also has not been a major portion of industrial/IDM in the same way. For my tastes, there is just not very much creativity going on in the movement but I also don't know it well enough to say so (I can just hear my dubstep aficianado buddies groan as they read this post, except they never will because they wouldn't be caught dead on this forum.......) And yet, in the same breath, I have a lot of metal students lately and I'm frankly confused at all the micro definitions that metalheads take so seriously............I don't see all that many differences between thrash, death, speed, black, melodic black, gothic, drone, sludge and other kinds of metal. Sometimes, according to my students, the fact that a singer growls as opposed to singing or screaming will change the genre name of metal. I'm lost, but they love it and I love them, so I'm gonna sort it all out.............lol..........I just got my first professional double bass drum pedal towards that end. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 04:14:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A942183476; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QwhCfGr1J/iqTU2s2rTXAaq3dZfX3NnIwyETPH19T0w=; b=JDLBN/f4o7aS3RmhbB/hrmFEaUlJPOc4iWPvhiovKR8Yj4bXD7gcK5tf5mooI23FyM K4rZmtTOI6iE7V5x9y1jx9sdl32EpdI+E2MfqLstZIumgjh1KxLvxDN5eePBskAVfDwk uVlyOpSIr4t702L218/WwvG9gupf70B2RPJeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YV12mlNtEQIV95JIUuHjBv1DP14lijyPrDro4FK2qCFV/IKdQdq8NK4yi7Drif0wrg 4vXD37tWc0b+esLSvz5Zk5f4MmK8//7IRmJX7147O8uPU9rF/6k5MKLVupzNZi1fZ55M SBi0fbXXxUCo8OUxWzULBjAjw9OWabqx/G+aQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da98b91defde049c72a3bc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:14:45 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6da98b91defde049c72a3bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 very post rock. My overall impression is: it's cool. My fiancee said "Is that Brandon?" I said "no, it's some guy from the list" she said "it's good" Listened to parts of the video, so I'm just giving you my very first impressions. I like the feel. Thoughtful and interesting. Thanks for sharing. Love to hear people on this list. Adam --0016e6da98b91defde049c72a3bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very post rock. =A0My overall impression is: it's cool. =A0My fiancee s= aid "Is that Brandon?" I said "no, it's some guy from th= e list" she said "it's good" =A0Listened to parts of the= video, so I'm just giving you my very first impressions. =A0I like the= feel. =A0Thoughtful and interesting.

Thanks for sharing. =A0Love to hear people on this list.
=

Adam
--0016e6da98b91defde049c72a3bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 04:44:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 332D6183464; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rzxny1gOERNrCfsWiHC3nBUeS3qImK6zazXrx9MuaAk=; b=OVHDXb5W9TOIKD6xd8LXoq1tdbZhMoifQclojQJseishPYMFhBYbDApg4m4pmENiCf bYfvm7YgsIhK+Z+6+p3j58HHXsGHFBk6WKqhajy8Mg+KGd16wTc9MDOU8dPi8mSRYZ00 I1Z4X5md5mDxbn+nbzv9qqniyoTronFeVNV1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=h/ANp2pVWgghxWjZdny7gVrijiuUHdByIHQ6CaY5d+30VRzeQ9Z5JZdxx0RBHt+0+R Kg/6OcIg7v8dsPgY9c8oqvOY5mDPtJCZCDtmFUTX/c22LzLpsNZlrpPVL4PlTeBaSeRO 9Tq+Il631I+yGtahrtmONbDU4MZPL3kDi+eF0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:44:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e686ce228b51ea049c730e5b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:44:46 +0000 (UTC) --0016e686ce228b51ea049c730e5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ... in your second looping gig you sound like an experienced looper :) what more could you want? beautiful vocal lines. very nice performance overall, petri. 2011/2/16 Petri Lahtinen > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LoLZy5BMw&feature=player_embedded > > Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. > > (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects with > scripts running on DAWs) > > :-D > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016e686ce228b51ea049c730e5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... in your second looping gig you sound like an experienced looper :)
what = more could you want?
beautiful vocal = lines. very nice performance overall, petri.

2011/2/16 Petri Lahtinen &= lt;aikuinen@gmail.com><= br>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BM= w&feature=3Dplayer_embedded

Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd loo= ping gig ever.

(And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects wi= th scripts running on DAWs)

:-D

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--0016e686ce228b51ea049c730e5b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 04:53:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50FA6183474; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZOCBtTREj9d3d/6fyOp8V/J5OnCFtEmMQm9o8bSyjqc=; b=J+RqZ7xKP+ioSZPvqG1cmh9f4OzjVbtBKQNk4THsiamKQ7TAxPfl30DfvJ0T4Injvc ejDzbiBEZ1HCu00B2L1PYOseLflWzjNM+lBEHW9oIKwwtxKgmJ+z2m+gspe6CiIoYbSh 4qXpbFk8BW3PJ9JB3Fv11Cm9K7ygE5zodtiRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AbxeqaKYcRpoIjpzvuN3WYRE9UOjLRL2qFCd0QhY0AZWIBfQ6jZMbVuJWDb52yNujG PRrT16ZO07HiidvhwmbRQmZwB3hd182DK/Xi/loqMahGexRZlNal4or55lUXtvUpXnFY w6fNCVDdPB2WEQ13y5xXK5TiaVenfM4eWfcnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00248c0ef2f2c14235049c732d9a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:53:30 +0000 (UTC) --00248c0ef2f2c14235049c732d9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri I like your video and performance a lot. Particularly the main piece of the front, nice feel and voice delivery plus the illustration by your colleague is quite nice. Too the scene in the video of him walking to the door in the church like space is right out of the final episode of 'Lost'. Good effort. Jim On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Raul Bonell wrote= : > ... in your second looping gig you sound like an experienced looper :) > what more could you want? > beautiful vocal lines. very nice performance overall, petri. > > 2011/2/16 Petri Lahtinen > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BMw&feature=3Dplayer_embedded >> >> Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. >> >> (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects wit= h >> scripts running on DAWs) >> >> :-D >> >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp= - >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> >> > > > -- > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --00248c0ef2f2c14235049c732d9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Petri I like your video and performance a lot. =A0Particularly the main pie= ce of the front, nice feel and voice delivery plus the illustration by your= colleague is quite nice. =A0Too the scene in the video of him walking to t= he door in the church like space is right out of the final episode of '= Lost'. =A0Good effort.

Jim

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 a= t 11:44 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
... in your second looping gig you sound like an experienced looper :)
what more could you want?
beautiful vocal lines. very nice performance overall, petri.

2011/2/16 Petri Lahtinen &= lt;aikuinen@gmail.c= om>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BM= w&feature=3Dplayer_embedded

Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd loo= ping gig ever.

(And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects wi= th scripts running on DAWs)

:-D

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http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blog= spot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-



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raulbonell.tumblr.c= om - collective.com=





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From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--00248c0ef2f2c14235049c732d9a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 10:17:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA392183466; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=03QhDERv+Ia0SxNPj3jTy7krId2B+fSsYZShf1Zrd9I=; b=hImRUP/a88HtNwzykw/+Ltmx3k9zjB3oll3IEHjWpgqrfseckXLvbd4ilEZYWwwxar VDKhxL8VI5qwvzOF8itwVEE1BduDL0btccjobkf5CvXabl6ub5hNFQ4Dw8YZtzHtIB00 pHNDH90ctJvWjgrGnXxs1zaqVe661Hm+GXohg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ws0zpjT9WsK38OfUNAVNHXTTyCk5u678LopKb4usS7cTNgYRB1m5UnUKbDV1inrpqE 478eFbe6cOdoXp0y0oXAmK0asqPbRNdgqeyxqJH8pWOSMV483QR/wklOR86T0fS5XQtV rFQYkElijkIcd7wCYjczsGO0P6+yATZmz1/fo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:17:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mainstream is downstream thing/thread i think... From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:17:57 +0000 (UTC) oh they are out there believe me,they just arent on the radio like EVH was,so we have to find them here is one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKR0RJ7E8Bc even with a drum machine the guy can rock cheers Luis > > the other thing i'd think w/ the explosion of media, both print and youtube > in the last few yrs, you'd think there would be this explosion of > technical guitarists, but i honestly haven't seen them. i mean in the late > 70s there was Randy Rhoads who exploded w/ ozzy solo and then early > 80s yngvie came out, and of course there was the wave of stuff from the 80s > (shranel), but i thought w/ all that is available that we'd see more, but > i really haven't, but it could be that guitar in pop music scene has really > taken a back seat in the last few yrs, really since grunge...oh well.... > more blathering than i needed too... > > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 10:35:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4303E183464; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=6tgPZdvOKkdlLKjwt8QO92fi7pWQloF/w4hVr01nEHk=; b=F2IVDVERvWAIzIabhnmjjTqWxGEQkN13TkEDmLctOInNW8irywLRqj+6zL8tAJLHIY Sz5JurIziZLa3tRp556holyLYGtkbn1W44PSCTN16p2JbgSus1k/8gM5jkd69bnT134C 8MXCfAq0i89tN+f9QOsA8QoMl6B/MqM19Kl/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=SFMssRzfDlGaWacK9+QRVKCQ/Xr9wxK33Tykv+MaLnJJXSw9UZ7AozW7XS6+9WtlPL TIfFTygPpjmapN+JdkZ/FVZ79EO/95bSq8unF8oyEPoy1dZKAlHnlRCsFufNh4IW2K5A aEMwaJqnhVOf2y8To1Nil5gH8WT74hws89NlQ= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--343324931 Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 05:35:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:35:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--343324931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I love the whole collaboration/concept for the gig. Great job Petri!=20 On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BMw&feature=3Dplayer_embedded >=20 > Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. >=20 > (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects = with scripts running on DAWs) >=20 > :-D --Apple-Mail-1--343324931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = love the whole collaboration/concept for the gig. Great job = Petri! 

On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Petri = Lahtinen wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BMw&feature=3Dpla= yer_embedded

Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig = ever.

(And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any = realtime effects with scripts running on DAWs)

:-D




= --Apple-Mail-1--343324931-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 13:28:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BD0183466; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Looping Grammy References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <35062760-7794-4BA9-B956-EB0929AE9482@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:27:16 -0500 Thread-Topic: Looping Grammy Thread-Index: AcvOpniGCXbVR303ThaIU3gwhInlnA== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2011 13:28:34.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[93AD1D00:01CBCEA6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:28:36 +0000 (UTC) "Charles Zwicky" wrote: > I'm up for a Governors position on the board of the Producer and > Engineer's wing of the NY Chapter of NARAS... Good luck Chas, my buddy Larry Seyer in Austin has the same spot, or did, ho= pe you get there!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 14:41:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD30B183466; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=s4eGFVwFRvAm/xEY0O9ZUuNxdxeo67bLJIV5P5TFtEfArF9uRrZiXIYcF8xhA3dP; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35062760-7794-4BA9-B956-EB0929AE9482@1800dialword.com> References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> <35062760-7794-4BA9-B956-EB0929AE9482@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:38:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping Grammy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a6d71ff648b776c9e9d1e65da028c9d0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Thanks.. I've been thinking lately about the genre grouping currently in use.. quite bizarre and possibly in need of updating. For instance in the Producing / Engineering category you have "Classical" and "Non-Classical" which means that Production and Engineering grammy submissions for the Black Eyed Peas were up against Pat Metheny's "Orchestrion"... is it any wonder that a certain Bias may influence the outcome? >"Charles Zwicky" wrote: > >> I'm up for a Governors position on the board of the Producer and >> Engineer's wing of the NY Chapter of NARAS... > >Good luck Chas, my buddy Larry Seyer in Austin has the same spot, or >did, hope you get there!! > >Andy o -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 15:37:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D9D4183466; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CWC2vp12yMs76tEK9S/aId1sSh9O4II1/h3/6jp3R+w=; b=G635dcrTHJngQMj9K4myuXRrDQntS1MxqtnmmsHxsT0ScsO1NQUiL2G/iLssb9cw2h Cp6mQ5mN0veXZArbzwSOJREMpAvfCMAtJeitDfZP7X8MLs/Wt7oc4EmgsoYtEw4gNDDI SCUBzfGGD8q7obAi0yIKTGfvfN8uJwWsuE53I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cPRa/CgIbVVLPjlyI5xezqRWZVnKcpv/wMKBP081EjvcAqUUnEJzCPe3OuB9FJx2sb kGeuQ5NEqthGUkS74P6Jb+oQ5uVq3ox0lsJHeJcKZxUqKhp1UveHtfkTe5hHsBpPNSQQ BZha5W5yzVk2surAwpUNi/T0QVSQI2bbHvwUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:37:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Petri :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 15:47:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 116C1183476; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D5C257D.5000205@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:46:42 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D5C257D.5000205@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9CD1022112E4-898-4A66F@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:47:00 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0=C2=A0 i couldn't help but sing along with this tune.....good morning! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 16:20:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95387183474; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Q4j3peYMLZTCw19bzrqeWBUIB/afdqcjSZLJHNXT78=; b=n3aiV3uAVFOL4kDrHZfjRmhIAM/tC215Kg8AAAN3+bM5eGEkosN9UvdlikBJ4ETXIo QnwQ4t3HRJwJQjMOFZAZ6A7JongVBWSZV8QegUSnsECEm9C4W3u3XIBhHJGPO/KDV04V Yeu0zZz41189S1sCFmmPholpIJc8+1k7yWywE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xvJUIKmaOJUTCzxOof54IMNF5BqhJoXQppRRI/fDwjZO85UiFNI9gMa77zkRe/msBI jcvyz6jCousJznfuGeSL4kCvp0zNbOssEODhD+uT3FWvn1YQaStFMrNJWbEYGnE4CgwV +AKOq2Vq01VQRFt99ZY7Vku+DvLNPKfL0/6RQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:20:10 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:20:16 +0000 (UTC) In watching that I had the idea that at the end of the gig, you could, sign and sell/auction/donate/raffle/whatever the art produced. Or, you could take an email list and randomly select one of the names and send it. So many possibilities. It would be an interesting one of a kind piece from the gig for folks. I wonder if other folks are doing that sort of thing. Kevin Oh yes, I enjoyed it quite a bit as well. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote= : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2LoLZy5BMw&feature=3Dplayer_embedded > > Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. > > (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects with > scripts running on DAWs) > > :-D > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 17:34:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18825183478; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 581567096/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.66/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.66 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcCAOLqXE1YbRJC/2dsb2JhbAAMhBCTPzG6LINNjRSBJ4NBdgSPPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,487,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="581567096" Message-ID: <4D5D5C0D.2080603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:34:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does experimental sound more like metal these days? References: <4D5C257D.5000205@cruzio.com> <8CD9CD1022112E4-898-4A66F@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD9CD1022112E4-898-4A66F@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Yes, H really *is* a note you can tune down to. andy (I enjoyed that clip too, ta Mark) nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0 > > > i couldn't help but sing along with this tune.....good morning! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 17:49:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C53B183475; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=aq6X3xGBaukA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=KM_EQZO29AUmpK5adqQA:9 a=99sDk9k9hyYaKcnKwLUcesuBZ-AA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:49:49 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <635235911.2389687.1297964989275.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 44 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:49:51 +0000 (UTC) I truly am an old fart. I liked everything BUT the singing. If they'd taken him out altogether and put in another instrument (any=20 instrument at all) playing essentially the same riff/motif, I'd have run=20 right out and bought it. But that's just me . . . and I know I'm weird. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:46 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0=C2=A0 > > > i couldn't help but sing along with this tune.....good morning! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 18:22:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 750BE183475; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D59AD4B.3090800@cruzio.com> <8CD9B51376FF41A-B10-2DF6A@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <8CD9B51376FF41A-B10-2DF6A@webmail-stg-d12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5DA6B6EF-366A-42E7-8502-119F440825F6@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? Thread-Index: AcvOz47FRbTmAkoBRsy2pxDDWgCXYw== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:21:22 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2011 18:22:08.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[964186E0:01CBCECF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:22:11 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:59 PM, wrote: > why, do you think, > that people want their music with words? Wow, good question, in Bluegrass music the banjo players will tell you it's j= ust something to stick in between the leads so they can rest a minute!!! But in reality, in my world, singer songwriter story song kind of world (whe= n I aint makin shit up!!!) it would seem to be a way to connect. Take Doc Wa= tson (his new bio great!!) when he started he amazed people with his guitar p= laying but what really endeared him and gave him a lifelong career was his s= inging and talking style to the audience. Guess what, there is a Doc clone u= nder every tree, passing him way up, but what no one can clone or copy? Doc'= s singing, his true self coming out on stage and recordings.=20 Also think of it as chicken or egg, do people like singing, or do they like p= eople that sing??? Andy ver. O= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 18:32:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0583183475; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V5cv4IMJfCsKNFfizIg8elxZ+N+Hpq7er1y+W5/jr38=; b=qx7lAOTst6m2JReqBQkOnuH0pYkCZQkwZh1KXyYoJQRL4jhKUIIDW6AYy9/jNJH6wU D60Zee8eQDdDNPmF5I3cKGt9gPl25hmW5VZwSI+N96lIU53bWUolrGfyGpdFpPbew/0O NyUMpFMcsymvyZRZV5ZV4fdmTHuY4Xj+GElFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rl7QnEzoL4KlOqOPZLCXMgbepO+FU/ILDNbGmvfNz42LEvvPUVAH0B1gCSk2CVHpKe AdMR12kvUKgw7OqU/GHzJ6CsnyF9UOydDQlZ4k2HRP3JD66dM0hfS8aWpQgo7LfrtzCF sRz35tQNS+sBqw+e6HdGvJZ4GJYJCsI5MF5DU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <635235911.2389687.1297964989275.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> References: <635235911.2389687.1297964989275.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:32:33 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4recE7Bvw9PZyz5akyD6R_jTxs0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:32:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:49 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn w= rote: > I truly am an old fart. > > I liked everything BUT the singing. It is a bit harsh.. trying thinking of it as beefheart.. it might help a bit... didnt you like the subtle reverse reverb in one place as that voice come back in... makes my hair stand on end actually... > But that's just me . . . and I know I'm weird. Yeah. but thats just a good thing... --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 19:37:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67E97183474; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 578469218/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.18.66/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.18.66 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIBAA+mPE1YbRJC/2dsb2JhbAAMhAaSBzG6CINJjBqBJIM4dASOOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,369,1291593600"; d="scan'208";a="578469218" Message-ID: <4D5D78EF.9030502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:19 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <635235911.2389687.1297964989275.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <635235911.2389687.1297964989275.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Well wait till you hear the Klobuchar acapella version before you part with your money. tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > I truly am an old fart. > > I liked everything BUT the singing. > > If they'd taken him out altogether and put in another instrument (any > instrument at all) playing essentially the same riff/motif, I'd have run > right out and bought it. > > But that's just me . . . and I know I'm weird. > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:46 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0 >> >> >> i couldn't help but sing along with this tune.....good morning! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 21:26:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB1E4183464; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) References: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-20--304328974"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: Total Improv Thread-Index: AcvO6U12dHHLBVLjQv6cBiq/Z2TeAQ== Message-ID: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Subject: Total Improv Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:25:33 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2011 21:26:50.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[63B1A740:01CBCEE9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20--304328974 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse guys" for you Yankees) What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% improv= ? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or even archive the songs..= ... Who does that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not easy, and really, to get= there I have to master every sound my rig and my instruments can make. Feel= s like a long long road but gratifying when it feels you are one with the ma= chine.=20 Also, anybody got a line on instrument stands like what boost is using to ho= ld his guitars? Man I am so leaning to the softdark side right now, my LP1 acting up and mig= ht have a three month housesitting gig in Bonaire....... SO!! What is the easiest simplest way to go software, dedicated laptop pc, n= ovation control surface and would have to rethink pedals, prob lg I bet. Sc= ary!!! Abelton running Mobius as a plugin, is that how you wascally wabbitts get us= sucked in the first time????? Andy not b On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > a prodigal son returns... >=20 > Greetings, gents. I'm decloaking after a long absence, and have been lurki= ng recently. >=20 > The 'mainstream/downstream' thread is, IMO, one of the best threads in mem= ory since i started following the digest again. >=20 > I felt compelled to drop in and give my perspective. Here's a bit o' catc= h up. >=20 > I've been a self motivated, and mostly self-taught musician for the last 2= 0 years or so, and have been using some sort of delay/looper in my construct= ions since the beginning. (a Digitech PDS2000, a co-conspiritor, a boombox, a= nd a couple of hits of acid and one very weird night in 1987 was the genesis= of this journey!) > Yet, for the last couple of years, i've been increasingly disconnected to t= he process of making music. I dislike making music by myself, in a vacuum, a= nd as age sets in, it's becoming more difficult to find suitable cohorts. Fu= rthermore, my BS meter is becoming more finely tuned, and I have little or n= o volition to deal with other people who are more interested in their unspok= en agenda than just enjoying the process of creation, working hard towards a= common goal, and making something 'greater than the sum of its parts'. I'v= e always said that being in bands is like dating. It's an ugly game, but yo= u gotta put yourself in the game if you want to play. And dating is an ugly= game even when you're in your twenties. At mid-forties, it's a lot UGLIER.= >=20 > I'm not so into ugly, right now, thank you very much. >=20 > This situation has been further exasperated by a new undertaking of the la= st 12 months. I've taken up an intense physical activity, Short Track Ice S= peed Skating. I'm utterly smitten, and it's been a transformational experie= nce for me. I've jokingly dubbed it "Yoga meets Drag Racing", which is fitt= ing. Absolute grace intertwined with utter chaos, ripping around in circles= at 20+ mph with a couple of razor blades strapped to your feet. >=20 > For the first time in 15 years or more, i'm engaged in something that is m= aking huge physical demands on my body, with all of the trappings. I'm havi= ng to eat better, work out, focus, and enjoy the flood of endorphins while g= rimacing at the pain of lactic acid buildup and muscle fatigue. Crazy. But= i'm motivated to do it because there's a goal....to go faster! (and not fa= ll on my ass, of course, which happens...) >=20 > This is in stark contrast to the current mental/spiritual vibe of making m= usic, which has been dissapointing, frustrating and very depressing. >=20 > So, in context of the Mainstream/Downstream conversation, I feel like I ha= ve a decent amount of 'Outside Thinking' available. I've got a good chunk o= f experience making music, but right now, i've got better things to do, and i= 'm not terribly enamored with gear, musicians, or grandiose self-indulgence.= >=20 > Some highlights that strongly struck me (from reading the threads online):= >=20 > #1. "That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent. >=20 > so are you saying that 95% of looping sux?.....:)" >=20 > My answer? If you subscribe to the 5-10% of most human endeavors being of= excellent quality, then YES! 95% of looping sucks. There's the outside th= inking coming into play. I'm not buying into the 'looping as art' in and of= itself as much nowadays. I'm looking at it from a musical, entertaining, a= rtistic perspective. Is this composition well put together and presented in= a manner that stands up and rises above the fray? (and if so...how and why= ?) For the most part, when looking at video or audio of most 'live looping'= output, or even looking at my own work critically.....YES, MOST OF IT SUCKS= . >=20 > but if you enjoy the process, and the personal engagement with musical vib= rations that it provides, then sucking is ok. Compared to some of the pre-O= lympians i've trained with in the last 12 months, I SUCK. But it doesn't ma= tter. I'm engaged, motivated and happy. Which is where musical performance= differs from fitness...I'm not asking anyone to be an audience (and i'm not= planning on being an Olympian, either!). Music performance kinda demands i= t, in some ways. And if you want honest opinions, then be prepared to, give= n the odds, to be part of the 95% crowd. >=20 > btw, there's not a lot 'live looping', but you can check out smatterings o= f my musical output of recent years here: http://www.myspace.com/asopaquemu= sic >=20 >=20 > #2. Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? >=20 > It seems like there was different interpretations of what this actually me= ant? I took it to mean "Downstream" in that "You live downstream from me. I= throw my trash, do my wash, and defacate in the water....then YOU get the '= downstream' result. I'm not sure if I got it right, either, but that's how I= took it. >=20 > #3 "I can still work on killing the beast, or at least work at putting a=20= > few crooked nails in it's coffin." >=20 > WOW. This isn't the central crux of Mr. Killian's missive, but I needed t= o reference something. and didn't feel the need to quote the whole thing.. T= ed's comments were, for me, so on the money. His comments were stimulating,= depressing, engaging, and a call to higher duty, all wrapped up in one neat= package. Kudos, Ted. Me like. >=20 >=20 > SOOOOOO.... > I'll leave off here. I'm back on board, at least for the moment. And sti= ll connected, i guess, in that i'm a new Boomerang III user, which is one of= the most fun and enjoyable loopers i've played with in a long time. But th= e gear is beginning to be thinned, simplification is the prime directive, an= d days of gigs and band practice are on the wane. >=20 > I'm off to the rink...as Apolo Ohno says, "no matter how serious you take i= t, you're still just a guy in tights going around in circles". Kindof like L= ooping (minus the tights, of course) >=20 > best regards and much respect, >=20 > Rich Atkinson >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-20--304328974 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj48ZGl2PjxkaXY+SGV5IHlhJ2xsLCAo dGhhdCdzIHRoZSBjby1lZCBwYyB3YXkgb2Ygc2F5aW5nICJ5b3VzZSBndXlzIiBmb3IgeW91IFlh bmtlZXMpPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5XaGF0IGFyZSBzb21lIGN1cnJlbnQgb3Ig cGFzdCBiYW5kcyBvciBsb29wZXJzIHRoYXQgZG8gY29tcGxldGUsIDEwMCUgaW1wcm92PyBJIG1l YW4gbGlrZSBvZmYgdGhlIHRvcCBvZiB5b3VyIGhlYWQgdm9jYWxzIGFuZCBhbGw/PC9kaXY+PGRp dj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5MaWtlIHRoZXkgYXJlIHNvIGludG8gaXQsIGRvbnQgZXZlbiBzZWxs IHJlY29yZHMgb3IgZXZlbiBhcmNoaXZlIHRoZSBzb25ncy4uLi4uPC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9k aXY+PGRpdj5XaG8gZG9lcyB0aGF0PyBUaGlzIGlzIHdoYXQgSSBsaWtlIHRvIGRvLCB3aG9vLCBu b3QgZWFzeSwgYW5kIHJlYWxseSwgdG8gZ2V0IHRoZXJlIEkgaGF2ZSB0byBtYXN0ZXIgZXZlcnkg c291bmQgbXkgcmlnIGFuZCBteSBpbnN0cnVtZW50cyBjYW4gbWFrZS4gRmVlbHMgbGlrZSBhIGxv 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arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7B88183465; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hq4A5VoSfXlbWIgM7SepCd935wX7dPoD7nyHNGK9e2g=; b=ntfPjtUJaGwDKcvKwQmY9hXjP/F1fV6xXFxK550D7OxX6rnH7jKHbQzqJMe3xwJ2/A VVJELStSy+bXYpueQQ1CJCtTMmBP0g+gMUbfDXUj/k9C9e7UsLx2wPL7P0fQWT2tTkWF 7zPATY2UI1UVaAeafsjmzVOU+6sov0OpEM++o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lM5/jP7DCs92qfn41wdsBAdSARoM/z9BuUCwVKAtvKQf2dLPDL4Fe2PXmHcSRtni+y grnSzNN41o3zMJd92EQDxNYeYptmVpyYi3k9I/FYMQSEj/Iq6UpY8PKuZ/QWzZke0Qb7 GKUvJAqIG/VIdP3Cu6DufTXFIdbz+G52QTFC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> References: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:44:11 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:44:13 +0000 (UTC) I play in a band (from 3-7 members) that gets together monthly and does just that, total free improv for two sets on a day. They tend to average about an hour per set but we have gone as long as two hours before. There is much asynchronous looping that goes on and it is big big fun. So much so it has severely impeded my ability to play any other kind of music (why would I rehearse something when its so exciting to bring something brand new and never before heard into being). I'm on the verge of that same Mobius/Live combo but have yet to find the time to really do it properly. Kevin On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse guys" for you Yankee= s) > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% > improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? > Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or even archive the > songs..... > Who does that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not easy, and really, to = get > there I have to master every sound my rig and my instruments can make. Fe= els > like a long long road but gratifying when it feels you are one with the > machine. > Abelton running Mobius as a plugin, is that how you wascally wabbitts get= us > sucked in the first time????? > Andy not b > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 21:59:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51AD0183460; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5D9A48.8000800@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:59:36 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? References: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:59:44 +0000 (UTC) I said: > #1. "That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent. someone asked: > so are you saying that 95% of looping sux?.....:)" If one were being really black and white about it, then yes, that would be true, but there is a huge amount of territory between music being excellent and music sucking, as it were. There's a lot of very competent music made in the world.............on some levels you can't be completely awful if you are on a major label...........just prosaic and possibly boring. But, I really have to qualify my own personal answer a little bit to be really accurate about how I feel: When I talk about my own loose formula that 5% in all genres of music is excellent, it means just to me, personally! Someone may just love Andre Seqovia recordings. For some reason they don't appeal to me. Does that mean it sucks? of course not. It just means this is a personal formula for me. I choose to listen to Black Metal this week instead of King Crimson............does this mean I think Black Metal is better than King Crimson or even that one is excellent and one sucks.............of course not. Another aspect that's important in my reply is that I believe the the process of making music and putting it out to the world is really good for one's soul, whether someone buys it or not, really so I want to be public-ally supportive of ALL loopers in their attempts to 'get it out there'. I couldn't possibly have done the looping festival all these years, including a very conscious decision to include rank newbies in the performances if I had some judgmental hierarchy in my mind that rated musicians as being either excellent or sucking. I'm a hippy at heart and I firmly believe in being supportive of community. My own personal communities involve live loopers, goth/industrial types, pool players, movie aficionados, etc., etc. so I do what I can to be supportive of people, especially when it comes to being creative and to getting out in public and performing or releasing their own artistry. There, is that a long winded enough response? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 22:23:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D47183474; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5D9FDA.9040104@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:23:22 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:23:26 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Danish artist Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Transformation" by Nattefrost on Groove Unlimited. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 22:46:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37645183479; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1297982795; bh=VgwlhBXuWqeKfgXKCbRfuardhireAv83AfC0XT2EA5E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I5jYf0M8m8AmN18AAcTji8qrvOmP7jo1MRqzwA1ECDCWfe0V3zszEGNMhOf29wDcxG6/5BaeA9ghXHSidt/c75ZDL025CUlojgwLHdZv+j50qGGcPaBAWmkr252JopNtKuFuTtBaP77wXdB+J1D51On4+ZWdsqdD/8nypVjk95o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jSZd3K2XHTwzZlScPkunLs1/wx0ZpegvRrlmwqfHROFFCfTqGNSUo3L0SodS5JRKJBlRZCfg8zcW575dCbAaG1NwgsR9E3LgqmxuHxijsu2awFRZup8u6sJY0fucJpl5KvoLJoMSPcrU9nb+jljxnnNI78faBAPY8jCtGHhTZe8=; Message-ID: <369327.31010.qm@web32506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _EkeGJMVM1m6KU_aY0DIMnNT8BgTavUcENL0brCbzygCwSp IXYLXlnb_qungvJlrLn0BDRQvaIWOdCOTDcNGLvvXNPxqzC5oun2CWza_5Up 0yc1k6jLtYkG_zXEv1mN.PzlH_XhRGBnHNIKvBj8SCY9UuNnCDWP.DH9oJkY b_EUVYV5DoVuVV6pHjvYIRJatVfqE1c0FWo24RSp36yySxMFl5G7tWU.4pyY 43edNjdHNPC2zyhf_Jc0A3j7PS9KvO43WnDzgUNfCDD5Owc2bngRZpPMuBMB yjSu7zcinMD7VSS3hRJv5IfNXoxfXH59_GlazSgAIf9ykxeodmOTf9xHJrRV u69ihfA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: Total Improv To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, My friend and I did it from 11-87 to sometime in 2003. We used Alesis MMT8= with drum machines, synths, guitar, etc. Playing a loop with the Alesis, t= urning tracks on and off, switching patterns, vocals etc, all on the fly. W= e were known as EXP/EFX. You might find some of it on the net. It's out the= re somewhere. Of course, most of it is under my bed. On audio cassettes. Rig --- On Thu, 2/17/11, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: Re: Total Improv > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 1:44 PM > I play in a band (from 3-7 members) > that gets together monthly and > does just that, total free improv for two sets on a > day.=A0 They tend to > average about an hour per set but we have gone as long as > two hours > before.=A0 There is much asynchronous looping that goes > on and it is big > big fun.=A0 So much so it has severely impeded my > ability to play any > other kind of music (why would I rehearse something when > its so > exciting to bring something brand new and never before > heard into > being). >=20 > I'm on the verge of that same Mobius/Live combo but have > yet to find > the time to really do it properly. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Andy Owens > wrote: > > Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse > guys" for you Yankees) > > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do > complete, 100% > > improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals > and all? > > Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or > even archive the > > songs..... > > Who does that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not > easy, and really, to get > > there I have to master every sound my rig and my > instruments can make. Feels > > like a long long road but gratifying when it feels you > are one with the > > machine. > > Abelton running Mobius as a plugin, is that how you > wascally wabbitts get us > > sucked in the first time????? > > Andy not b > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body > and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause > of all trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 17 23:33:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D68F183478; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_raJkQc/j6ucFvxzohlbZdw)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-17_08:2011-02-17,2011-02-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102170193 Message-id: <82B38EE9-1D09-4EA8-ADE0-BCEEB3CDD28F@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> Subject: Re: Total Improv Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:33:05 -0700 References: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-VaZ5.A.Yw.XBbXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:33:43 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_raJkQc/j6ucFvxzohlbZdw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes, for solo play 100% improv - freeform/ conceptual with the caveat that there may be bits (cliches?) that I might introduce to ground a piece or act as a launching pad for further exploration. For myself it's all about the creative process. A long time ago, I saw a film clip (movie?) of Jackson Pollock painting and realized how I was more drawn into the process than concerned with the result. Consequently, I'm more drawn to music that functions similarly and am not interested in presentations of "stock" material/ "performances"/ or being "entertained". Aside from solo stuff I have a guitar trio ("The Randomness of Windchimes Project") that meets once a week in public performance (bookstore gig) and does completely "free" unrehearsed material - a neat mix of acoustic fingerstyle, classical, electric. If going the laptop route I'd definitely recommend Ableton (not sure what platform you're looking for but a MacBook Pro works for me) and a Novation Launchpad as a playing grid to supplement your regular instrument or as a controller. Ableton is geared to live performance: flexible routing, has a nice interface, and is simple to use - can get deep with it but my needs are pretty basic: some processing, some looping, and ability to record. I've got Mobius (for stand alone use) but am content with using Ableton's looper - single or multiple on separate insert return tracks. Also, there's a real simple minimal DAW I've been messing with, lately, that's got some potential. Check out Audiofile Engineering's "Rax". Still getting the midi control thing worked out but for an emulation of a hardware mixer and ability to real time record, works great. Cheers. -Paul << soundcloud.com/r369improv >> On Feb 17, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse guys" for you > Yankees) > > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, > 100% improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? > > Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or even archive the > songs..... > > Who does that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not easy, and > really, to get there I have to master every sound my rig and my > instruments can make. Feels like a long long road but gratifying > when it feels you are one with the machine. > > Also, anybody got a line on instrument stands like what boost is > using to hold his guitars? > > Man I am so leaning to the softdark side right now, my LP1 acting up > and might have a three month housesitting gig in Bonaire....... > > SO!! What is the easiest simplest way to go software, dedicated > laptop pc, novation control surface and would have to rethink > pedals, prob lg I bet. Scary!!! > > Abelton running Mobius as a plugin, is that how you wascally > wabbitts get us sucked in the first time????? > > Andy not b > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > >> a prodigal son returns... >> >> Greetings, gents. I'm decloaking after a long absence, and have >> been lurking recently. >> >> The 'mainstream/downstream' thread is, IMO, one of the best threads >> in memory since i started following the digest again. >> >> I felt compelled to drop in and give my perspective. Here's a bit >> o' catch up. >> >> I've been a self motivated, and mostly self-taught musician for the >> last 20 years or so, and have been using some sort of delay/looper >> in my constructions since the beginning. (a Digitech PDS2000, a co- >> conspiritor, a boombox, and a couple of hits of acid and one very >> weird night in 1987 was the genesis of this journey!) >> Yet, for the last couple of years, i've been increasingly >> disconnected to the process of making music. I dislike making >> music by myself, in a vacuum, and as age sets in, it's becoming >> more difficult to find suitable cohorts. Furthermore, my BS meter >> is becoming more finely tuned, and I have little or no volition to >> deal with other people who are more interested in their unspoken >> agenda than just enjoying the process of creation, working hard >> towards a common goal, and making something 'greater than the sum >> of its parts'. I've always said that being in bands is like >> dating. It's an ugly game, but you gotta put yourself in the game >> if you want to play. And dating is an ugly game even when you're >> in your twenties. At mid-forties, it's a lot UGLIER. >> >> I'm not so into ugly, right now, thank you very much. >> >> This situation has been further exasperated by a new undertaking of >> the last 12 months. I've taken up an intense physical activity, >> Short Track Ice Speed Skating. I'm utterly smitten, and it's been >> a transformational experience for me. I've jokingly dubbed it >> "Yoga meets Drag Racing", which is fitting. Absolute grace >> intertwined with utter chaos, ripping around in circles at 20+ mph >> with a couple of razor blades strapped to your feet. >> >> For the first time in 15 years or more, i'm engaged in something >> that is making huge physical demands on my body, with all of the >> trappings. I'm having to eat better, work out, focus, and enjoy >> the flood of endorphins while grimacing at the pain of lactic acid >> buildup and muscle fatigue. Crazy. But i'm motivated to do it >> because there's a goal....to go faster! (and not fall on my ass, >> of course, which happens...) >> >> This is in stark contrast to the current mental/spiritual vibe of >> making music, which has been dissapointing, frustrating and very >> depressing. >> >> So, in context of the Mainstream/Downstream conversation, I feel >> like I have a decent amount of 'Outside Thinking' available. I've >> got a good chunk of experience making music, but right now, i've >> got better things to do, and i'm not terribly enamored with gear, >> musicians, or grandiose self-indulgence. >> >> Some highlights that strongly struck me (from reading the threads >> online): >> >> #1. "That's my formula "5% in all genres of music is excellent. >> >> so are you saying that 95% of looping sux?.....:)" >> >> My answer? If you subscribe to the 5-10% of most human endeavors >> being of excellent quality, then YES! 95% of looping sucks. >> There's the outside thinking coming into play. I'm not buying into >> the 'looping as art' in and of itself as much nowadays. I'm >> looking at it from a musical, entertaining, artistic perspective. >> Is this composition well put together and presented in a manner >> that stands up and rises above the fray? (and if so...how and >> why?) For the most part, when looking at video or audio of most >> 'live looping' output, or even looking at my own work >> critically.....YES, MOST OF IT SUCKS. >> >> but if you enjoy the process, and the personal engagement with >> musical vibrations that it provides, then sucking is ok. Compared >> to some of the pre-Olympians i've trained with in the last 12 >> months, I SUCK. But it doesn't matter. I'm engaged, motivated and >> happy. Which is where musical performance differs from >> fitness...I'm not asking anyone to be an audience (and i'm not >> planning on being an Olympian, either!). Music performance kinda >> demands it, in some ways. And if you want honest opinions, then be >> prepared to, given the odds, to be part of the 95% crowd. >> >> btw, there's not a lot 'live looping', but you can check out >> smatterings of my musical output of recent years here: http://www.myspace.com/asopaquemusic >> >> >> #2. Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days? >> >> It seems like there was different interpretations of what this >> actually meant? I took it to mean "Downstream" in that "You live >> downstream from me. I throw my trash, do my wash, and defacate in >> the water....then YOU get the 'downstream' result. I'm not sure if >> I got it right, either, but that's how I took it. >> >> #3 "I can still work on killing the beast, or at least work at >> putting a >> few crooked nails in it's coffin." >> >> WOW. This isn't the central crux of Mr. Killian's missive, but I >> needed to reference something. and didn't feel the need to quote >> the whole thing.. Ted's comments were, for me, so on the money. >> His comments were stimulating, depressing, engaging, and a call to >> higher duty, all wrapped up in one neat package. Kudos, Ted. Me >> like. >> >> >> SOOOOOO.... >> I'll leave off here. I'm back on board, at least for the moment. >> And still connected, i guess, in that i'm a new Boomerang III user, >> which is one of the most fun and enjoyable loopers i've played with >> in a long time. But the gear is beginning to be thinned, >> simplification is the prime directive, and days of gigs and band >> practice are on the wane. >> >> I'm off to the rink...as Apolo Ohno says, "no matter how serious >> you take it, you're still just a guy in tights going around in >> circles". Kindof like Looping (minus the tights, of course) >> >> best regards and much respect, >> >> Rich Atkinson >> >> > --Boundary_(ID_raJkQc/j6ucFvxzohlbZdw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yes, for solo play 100% improv = - freeform/ conceptual with the caveat that there may be bits (cliches?) = that I might introduce to ground a piece or act as a launching pad for = further exploration.  For myself it's all about the creative = process.  A long time ago, I saw a film clip (movie?) of Jackson = Pollock painting and realized how I was more drawn into the process than = concerned with the result.  Consequently, I'm more drawn to music = that functions similarly and am not interested in presentations of = "stock" material/ "performances"/ or being "entertained".  Aside = from solo stuff I have a guitar trio ("The Randomness of Windchimes = Project") that meets once a week in public performance (bookstore gig) = and does completely "free" unrehearsed material - a neat mix of acoustic = fingerstyle, classical, electric.  
If going the laptop route = I'd definitely recommend Ableton (not sure what platform you're looking = for but a MacBook Pro works for me) and a Novation Launchpad as a = playing grid to supplement your regular instrument or as a controller. =  Ableton is geared to live performance: flexible routing, has a = nice interface, and is simple to use - can get deep with it but my needs = are pretty basic: some processing, some looping, and ability to record. =  I've got Mobius (for stand alone use) but am content with using = Ableton's looper - single or multiple on separate insert return tracks. =  Also, there's a real simple minimal DAW I've been messing with, = lately, that's got some potential.  Check out Audiofile = Engineering's "Rax".  Still getting the midi control thing worked = out but for an emulation of a hardware mixer and ability to real time = record, works great. = Cheers.
-Paul 
<< = soundcloud.com/r369improv = >>


On Feb 17, 2011, at = 2:25 PM, Andy Owens wrote:

Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way = of saying "youse guys" for you Yankees)

What = are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% improv? = I mean like off the top of your head vocals and = all?

Like they are so into it, dont even sell = records or even archive the songs.....

Who does = that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not easy, and really, to get = there I have to master every sound my rig and my instruments can make. = Feels like a long long road but gratifying when it feels you are one = with the machine. 

Also, anybody got a = line on instrument stands like what boost is using to hold his = guitars?

Man I am so leaning to the softdark = side right now, my LP1 acting up and might have a three month = housesitting gig in Bonaire.......

SO!! What is = the easiest simplest way to go software, dedicated laptop pc, novation = control surface and would have to rethink pedals, prob lg I bet. =  Scary!!!

Abelton running Mobius as a = plugin, is that how you wascally wabbitts get us sucked in the first = time?????

Andy not = b



On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:02 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net = wrote:

a prodigal son = returns...

Greetings, gents. I'm decloaking after a long absence, and = have been lurking recently.

The 'mainstream/downstream' thread is, = IMO, one of the best threads in memory since i started following the = digest again.

I felt compelled to drop in and give = my perspective.  Here's a bit o' catch up.

I've been = a self motivated, and mostly self-taught musician for the last 20 years = or so, and have been using some sort of delay/looper in my constructions = since the beginning. (a Digitech PDS2000, a co-conspiritor, a boombox, = and a couple of hits of acid and one very weird night in 1987 was the = genesis of this journey!)
Yet, for the last couple of years, i've been increasingly = disconnected to the process of making music.  I dislike making = music by myself, in a vacuum, and as age sets in, it's becoming more = difficult to find suitable cohorts.  Furthermore, my BS meter is = becoming more finely tuned, and I have little or no volition to deal = with other people who are more interested in their unspoken agenda than = just enjoying the process of creation, working hard towards a common = goal, and making something 'greater than the sum of its parts'.  = I've always said that being in bands is like dating.  It's an ugly = game, but you gotta put yourself in the game if you want to play.  = And dating is an ugly game even when you're in your twenties.  At = mid-forties, it's a lot UGLIER.

I'm not = so into ugly, right now, thank you very much.

This = situation has been further exasperated by a new undertaking of the last = 12 months.  I've taken up an intense physical activity, Short Track = Ice Speed Skating.  I'm utterly smitten, and it's been a = transformational experience for me.  I've jokingly dubbed it "Yoga = meets Drag Racing", which is fitting.  Absolute grace intertwined = with utter chaos, ripping around in circles at 20+ mph with a couple of = razor blades strapped to your feet.

For the = first time in 15 years or more, i'm engaged in something that is making = huge physical demands on my body, with all of the trappings.  I'm = having to eat better, work out, focus, and enjoy the flood of endorphins = while grimacing at the pain of lactic acid buildup and muscle = fatigue.  Crazy.  But i'm motivated to do it because there's a = goal....to go faster!  (and not fall on my ass, of course, which = happens...)

This is in stark contrast to the = current mental/spiritual vibe of making music, which has been = dissapointing, frustrating and very depressing.

So, in = context of the Mainstream/Downstream conversation, I feel like I have a = decent amount of 'Outside Thinking' available.  I've got a good = chunk of experience making music, but right now, i've got better things = to do, and i'm not terribly enamored with gear, musicians, or grandiose = self-indulgence.

Some highlights that strongly struck = me (from reading the threads online):

#1. = "That's my formula  "5% in all genres of music is = excellent.

so are you saying that 95% of looping = sux?.....:)"

My answer?  If you subscribe to = the 5-10% of most human endeavors being of excellent quality, then = YES!  95% of looping sucks.  There's the outside thinking = coming into play.  I'm not buying into the 'looping as art' in and = of itself as much nowadays.  I'm looking at it from a musical, = entertaining, artistic perspective.  Is this composition well put = together and presented in a manner that stands up and rises above the = fray?  (and if so...how and why?)  For the most part, when = looking at video or audio of most 'live looping' output, or even looking = at my own work critically.....YES, MOST OF IT SUCKS.

but if = you enjoy the process, and the personal engagement with musical = vibrations that it provides, then sucking is ok.  Compared to some = of the pre-Olympians i've trained with in the last 12 months, I = SUCK.  But it doesn't matter.  I'm engaged, motivated and = happy.  Which is where musical performance differs from = fitness...I'm not asking anyone to be an audience (and i'm not planning = on being an Olympian, either!).  Music performance kinda demands = it, in some ways.  And if you want honest opinions, then be = prepared to, given the odds, to be part of the 95% = crowd.

btw, there's not a lot 'live looping', but you can check = out smatterings of my musical output of recent years here:  http://www.myspace.com/asopa= quemusic


#2.  = Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these = days?

It seems like there was different interpretations of what = this actually meant?  I took it to mean "Downstream" in that "You = live downstream from me.  I throw my trash, do my wash, and = defacate in the water....then YOU get the 'downstream' result.  I'm = not sure if I got it right, either, but that's how I took = it.

#3  "I can still work on killing the beast, or at = least work at putting a 
few crooked nails in it's coffin."

WOW.  = This isn't the central crux of Mr. Killian's missive, but I needed to = reference something. and didn't feel the need to quote the whole = thing..  Ted's comments were, for me, so on the money.  His = comments were stimulating, depressing, engaging, and a call to higher = duty, all wrapped up in one neat package.  Kudos, Ted.  Me = like.


SOOOOOO....
I'll leave off here.  I'm back on board, at least for = the moment.  And still connected, i guess, in that i'm a new = Boomerang III user, which is one of the most fun and enjoyable loopers = i've played with in a long time.  But the gear is beginning to be = thinned, simplification is the prime directive, and days of gigs and = band practice are on the wane.

I'm off = to the rink...as Apolo Ohno says, "no matter how serious you take it, = you're still just a guy in tights going around in circles".  Kindof = like Looping (minus the tights, of course)

best = regards and much respect,

Rich Atkinson



= --Boundary_(ID_raJkQc/j6ucFvxzohlbZdw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 01:02:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C90CB183476; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <1295899611.2100146.1297895584965.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <559B68B6-7562-401E-ABF6-F410961F4031@1800dialword.com> Thread-Topic: Total Improv Thread-Index: AcvPB2vL2N+qjkdWT++OndRbGpCkCw== Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:01:17 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2011 01:02:15.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B45E510:01CBCF07] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:02:16 +0000 (UTC) > Where are you man? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 03:34:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BE0183464; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5DE8A3.8060208@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:33:55 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:34:03 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse guys" for you > Yankees) > > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% > improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? > Since the year 2000, every live looping show that I've done has been pure improv. I don't do songs, but I try to improvise towards simple forms sometimes they end up sounding like songs. The one thing I do is I try to change instruments on every single piece I do so, invariably, there will be themes that come up........even so, they end up different everytime. As a contrast, every single song I play in my wife's Indie rock band, Done Beginner is completely written with virtually no improv in it whatsoever. I'll switch up on fills really occasionally, but the intention is to perform music that is composed and not improvisational in nature. I'm working now, towards performing some live looping material and conventional instruments that will be , essentially composed. It's fun to incorporate both approaches and a little intimidating to me to be quite honest. It's a really nice balance in my life. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 04:09:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7869D183465; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KucTXQ4pJ9L1GwHwD7ozJkbWLu41Xnrkh4xicFRTjLM=; b=KI5t+V5XAzIxMVxfw4QgflkeaQoQdhR2nQe1tLGrwbxlTtuWBrZsiyetcMIVfZ+lX1 pEuEcLPXy/BO/efT1ONn2KKpnke6Gq8tJtUMHT7168rwuN2ES744HmPir9QHpkmQn4w5 3LsZhdMhM69gu+rl7unCDxuecVGlZTV2UozEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=rgQOZMY6z/OAv20fOvmgLfVk+8QzaFPfpwjHizFQeoQXoxPsYOOHF8fuXXe//Ni7ZQ ZFMTJssDX2Zouz4SZqHH2xs2Yh4EhmS4JS3YB1M8Rqr8xlyeatUXysheMGrbDDxueS1I 3i7FMX21r3+u89sJFPiLLcVja3F7twoDibxVw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:09:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: miles ward To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: mark francombe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bf196bfb92e049c86acfd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:09:06 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bf196bfb92e049c86acfd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 have it, love it, it completely blows my mind. working really hard to make tuba work with this nicely :) -Miles On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I bought this immediately, and is already an integral part of my live band > setup... not really for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen" thing, > but as a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "latch" and this > way I get the best of both worlds... > > > > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Art Simon wrote: > >> I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a couple >> attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is good. >> Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on this, >> it's going to take some time to get my head around it. >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >>> >>>> via gearjunkies.com: >>>> http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ >>>> >>>> Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the >>>> electronic dance folks in mind. >>>> >>>> Rainer >>>> >>>> Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software. >>> It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep. >>> >>> They offered it at NAMM for $150 and the street price is $250 >>> but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up. >>> >>> For me, it's dream software. Very, very hip real time manipulation of >>> both >>> triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming >>> audio is happening. >>> >>> rick walker >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > -- ---Miles Ward --0015174bf196bfb92e049c86acfd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have it, love it, it completely blows my mind. working really hard to make = tuba work with this nicely :)
-Miles

O= n Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:26 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w= rote:
I bought this imm= ediately, and is already an integral part of my live band setup... not real= ly for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen" thing, but as = a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "latch" and thi= s way I get the best of both worlds...




On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ar= t Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a coup= le attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is goo= d. Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on th= is, it's going to take some time to get my head around it.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walke= r <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
via gearjunkies.com:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/

Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic = dance folks in mind.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software.
It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep.

They offered it at NAMM for $150 =A0and the street price is $250
but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up.

For me, =A0it's dream software. =A0 Very, very hip real time manipulati= on of both
triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming a= udio is happening.

rick walker




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
= myspace [dot] com/artsimon






--
---Miles Wa= rd
--0015174bf196bfb92e049c86acfd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 07:17:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EC7F183474; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A3OBiV2xqEutoG4JIie/yWqlinXA54EPqwOvNabFPHo=; b=GyNo0+nCFqoVQhD1/Rrh9SAE/TQvZb5OYpZfMefrKex41x91ucUfCV+EIrycM/b4ca BO2aQZzaDUqu7lza9OxsCdENf7gptHMos+O3VqZUFC56mCAATs7/Z7f8sGjS6LJ5e8cq GMOMO1gTs33ObPhcvrHljKHBGCD8AlOq+XnDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=o6uBo6hz65qdYRx0giT0jgFNGZnO15aVXmU1pPGP9MH33YtxsleQdi+TdJQ3WQfClk DYIjGUQM/7OhjKduMfMJ9vIT31oNSZIz3E6n0lnnnpWVv2jCOeDl84FA52s+3zYzeaVi rSmt/hhtwKtk7ZrE5d+naGrdyUOvNUJ5wPiM8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D37273B.3070003@googlemail.com> <4D374645.7000307@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NAMM News: iZotope Stutter Edit - anyone seen this? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdc36530ee0049c894fbb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:17:45 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cdc36530ee0049c894fbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 what mic are you using ? 2011/2/18 miles ward > have it, love it, it completely blows my mind. working really hard to make > tuba work with this nicely :) > -Miles > > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> I bought this immediately, and is already an integral part of my live band >> setup... not really for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen" thing, >> but as a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "latch" and this >> way I get the best of both worlds... >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> >>> I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a couple >>> attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is good. >>> Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on this, >>> it's going to take some time to get my head around it. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >>> >>>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >>>> >>>>> via gearjunkies.com: >>>>> http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/ >>>>> >>>>> Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the >>>>> electronic dance folks in mind. >>>>> >>>>> Rainer >>>>> >>>>> Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software. >>>> It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep. >>>> >>>> They offered it at NAMM for $150 and the street price is $250 >>>> but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up. >>>> >>>> For me, it's dream software. Very, very hip real time manipulation of >>>> both >>>> triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever >>>> incoming audio is happening. >>>> >>>> rick walker >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Art Simon >>> simart@gmail.com >>> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mark francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > ---Miles Ward > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0015175cdc36530ee0049c894fbb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what mic are you using ?

2011/2/18 miles ward <miles932@gmail.com>
have it, love it, it completely blows my mind. working really hard to make = tuba work with this nicely :)
-Miles

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:26 AM, mark fran= combe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
I bought this imm= ediately, and is already an integral part of my live band setup... not real= ly for the glitchy "play the thing while I listen" thing, but as = a chop n slice machine... I set all my patches to "latch" and thi= s way I get the best of both worlds...




On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ar= t Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
I just downloaded the trial, it's unlimited for 10 days. It took a coup= le attempts to get the routing working in ableton, but the help file is goo= d. Very cool, and very different from glitch. Thanks for the heads up on th= is, it's going to take some time to get my head around it.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Rick Walke= r <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
via gearjunkies.com:
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/stutteredit/

Another thingie for intuitively mashing up audio input with the electronic = dance folks in mind.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

Maha and I sat through the entire demo of this piece of software.
It's really amazing what it can do and it's very, very deep.

They offered it at NAMM for $150 =A0and the street price is $250
but I, alas, just didn't have the moolah to pick it up.

For me, =A0it's dream software. =A0 Very, very hip real time manipulati= on of both
triggering and pitch whilst always staying in sync with whatever incoming a= udio is happening.

rick walker




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
= myspace [dot] com/artsimon






-- ---Miles Ward



--
.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-= .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com


--0015175cdc36530ee0049c894fbb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 10:35:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B5C6183465; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 02:35:42 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Before We Looped Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_Oj9L.A.t9B.GukXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:35:50 +0000 (UTC) I wanted to share this material with everyone on the list as it was the last band that we played in before we began to loop in earnest in '95 * Daniel Thomas*, the wonderful multi-instrumentalist and award winning producer (Bob Brozman, Martin Simpson and many master world musicians) has put up some of the live concert footage of our band *Worlds Collide * from a concert in 1992 at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz YouTube. It's a trip to watch us playing world/fusion music three years before guitarist,*Bill Walker*, saxaphonist/multi-instrumentalist*Gary Regina* and myself began synchronized live looping in earnest as *Third Wave* at Mobo Sushi. We were all rockin' Lexicon Jammans in those days.........midi-ed up. Of the musicians on this stage, Daniel, Gary, Bill and myself have all gone on to do a tremendous of solo live looping music in our own right (all having played the Y2K Looping Festival many times). This is a trip down memory lane for me and I want to thank Daniel who not only served this band faithfully as a multi-instrumentalist who was fearless about taking on new instruments to help the broad approach that we took in Worlds Collide but also faithfully recorded an incredible amount of digital audio from these concerts (that I video taped). He went back and put a lot of work into matching the audio to the video. This performance was from the CD release party for our first and only recording, "Everything's Changing in the Global Village" So if anyone is interested, here 'tis. *"You too, Endure"* (a tribute to Mbalax, the Senegalese dance music popularized by Youssou NDour) + *"Saudade"* (an attempt of mine to incorporate the three styles of Brazilian music, Afro Reggae, Maracatu and Partido Alto that I was in love with at the time) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdHoLZ5m8YA&feature=related *"A Walk In The Rainforest" * (an attempt to write a slow samba in 5/4 that captured the vanishing beauty of the Brazilian Rainforest and the incursion of civilization that is ruining it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cplrTk9BJsc *"The Sapeurs Strut" * a tribute to Congolese and East African guitar music Bill just shreds on this type of material! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rstOhEdtC_E&feature=related *********************************************** Now, who's got some more footage from their pre-looping days to share with us? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 11:15:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 048F5183466; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OawAl0ecACyZrQmS8dJ5IlbklbNvcGuCT4nklDGndqA=; b=wx/K3BT3w12D1xuVRGUtIPlmx2fuxk0HoX/GYSFPZj4TUKRgyoYMntrC2f+4xPv/N2 Xzf3UuXdKtSXFcBeJZJGaIG1pnxlBaPTsu/J5jnfq/IU0XSC9odIrCTCMdiRyTdoY09/ ZDJ+nXycOJQZEqnqsJ1/7slAf6bwI0yI6ARwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vFTct5VUeW14rhoaS0x0X7ssw4VBfSMFLnlz800kl4NPf3b/DaiWzFOYrFnrCapPJ/ 2fijGWbmM83Lclir8sA45fKQm3TfxAF51vYCWvb1+4qbl7DX5UvPcEDLo6Mf251O2uml Byhv2LoO8wlKRekb9KOjyAxrsS5chVUc+i068= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:15:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173ff398a9eb0c049c8ca17b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:15:38 +0000 (UTC) --0015173ff398a9eb0c049c8ca17b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 THANK YOU ALL, for your responses! These are heart-warming things to read. MUCH appreciated!!! Greetings from Finland, -Petri- PS: "In watching that I had the idea that at the end of the gig, you could, sign and sell/auction/donate/raffle/whatever the art produced." (We're doing that already, sometimes pieces are given for free, sometimes sold) 2011/2/17 Kevin Cheli-Colando > In watching that I had the idea that at the end of the gig, you could, > sign and sell/auction/donate/raffle/whatever the art produced. Or, > you could take an email list and randomly select one of the names and > send it. So many possibilities. It would be an interesting one of a > kind piece from the gig for folks. > > I wonder if other folks are doing that sort of thing. > > Kevin > > Oh yes, I enjoyed it quite a bit as well. > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen > wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LoLZy5BMw&feature=player_embedded > > > > Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever. > > > > (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects with > > scripts running on DAWs) > > > > :-D > > > > -- > > Petri Lahtinen > > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > > -Charles Bukowski- > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0015173ff398a9eb0c049c8ca17b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THANK YOU ALL, for your responses!

These are heart-warming things to= read.

MUCH appreciated!!!

Greetings from Finland,

-P= etri-

PS:
"In watching that I had the idea that at the end o= f the gig, you could,
sign and sell/auction/donate/raffle/whatever the art produced."

(We're doing that already, sometimes pieces are given for free, so= metimes sold)




2011/2/17 Kevin= Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
In watching that = I had the idea that at the end of the gig, you could,
sign and sell/auction/donate/raffle/whatever the art produced. =A0Or,
you could take an email list and randomly select one of the names and
send it. =A0So many possibilities. =A0It would be an interesting one of a kind piece from the gig for folks.

I wonder if other folks are doing that sort of thing.

Kevin

Oh yes, I enjoyed it quite a bit as well.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl2L= oLZy5BMw&feature=3Dplayer_embedded
>
> Dont shoot too harsh, my 2nd looping gig ever.
>
> (And yes, very traditional jamman-layering, not any realtime effects w= ith
> scripts running on DAWs)
>
> :-D
>
> --
> Petri Lahtinen
> http://www.= petrilahtinen.com
> http:= //petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
> http= ://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
> http://= twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
> http:= //petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -= Robert Fripp-
> ---------------------------------------------------
> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must = lead."
> -Charles Bukowski-
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org
Video = http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos




--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--0015173ff398a9eb0c049c8ca17b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 11:16:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF281183476; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hWrbs3mKqkCRklgfSs32XfYcd/UBlsy8HJ8agFbI0oE=; b=p0jismO9RBahdAOzXTn4anw06KNYDyNNnH7HL/d2LIGCEXPxUC/3i8HVpLWCF4qp1s +/bZDBTrALZghp4orJ4VaIOFZ8jSTUg1c+0o0dSvlHTTaYT4T0yErB7U39xOIYK9kez0 MOhsZFsBv2Cl68w9ExOAZ3iKeWIJ8N+pzpHWU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MfnaLYicrXvENjuvnEgXmKyfTA3dvl+KanNy6Iw5Y7e1tz3c7f3Fy4m/811yOKxaLo h3E2Yw36WK8wItieTE8iGzZJ878QYwO13SfSmbqWKIMUDKp1V4Z/vJriS4pVdtanfMBF bdwqexHomkE0sQVdLxP4q0m9YBJZ6Ccd5HHaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:16:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping as a cure for insomnia From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173ff3982f74ac049c8ca59b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:16:38 +0000 (UTC) --0015173ff3982f74ac049c8ca59b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brandon? :-) 2011/2/17 ^|>^m > very post rock. My overall impression is: it's cool. My fiancee said "Is > that Brandon?" I said "no, it's some guy from the list" she said "it's good" > Listened to parts of the video, so I'm just giving you my very first > impressions. I like the feel. Thoughtful and interesting. > > Thanks for sharing. Love to hear people on this list. > > Adam > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0015173ff3982f74ac049c8ca59b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brandon?

:-)

2011/2/17 ^|>^m <will.it.g= o.round@gmail.com>
very post rock. =A0My overall impression is: it's cool. =A0My fiancee s= aid "Is that Brandon?" I said "no, it's some guy from th= e list" she said "it's good" =A0Listened to parts of the= video, so I'm just giving you my very first impressions. =A0I like the= feel. =A0Thoughtful and interesting.

Thanks for sharing. =A0Love to hear people on this list.
=

Adam



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--0015173ff3982f74ac049c8ca59b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 11:47:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E819E183477; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 581829519/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.44/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.44 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhACAD/rXU1YbRMs/2dsb2JhbAAMmArLQoVeBI8/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,186,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="581829519" Message-ID: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:47:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> <4D5DE8A3.8060208@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D5DE8A3.8060208@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <58QajB.A.uBE.fxlXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Since the year 2000, every live looping show that I've done has been > pure improv. hi Rick, obviously it's somewhat debatable as to what constitutes 100% improv, so I wouldn't want to contradict that statement. (or even what constitutes improv) However, from my perspective I'd say that I'd seen you re-create what is essentially the same 'piece' at more than one show. It could be as simple as using the same instrument with the same loop techniques, but I got the impression there was a bit more to it than that. I seem to be classed as a "song based looper" but I often do a very similar thing, the basic starting sound is known, and usually what's going to come later in terms of structuring the loops, but beyond that I often don't have a set of themes to play. I think it's important to make a distinction here, partly because I suspect that the use of looping techniques as a composition technique is what brings something new to our music. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 11:48:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3F4118347A; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6mX4hD5PPuZUGVx2t3OsHIuobY45w4gUnHzkPaiEmOo=; b=DFqbf2431fHaftAcphTLaUud2BWt/uMgEd0zZDciXo3JtAfYOkZfSDMNz0qRYK8FWj 5oJoSfBtyhb3aKH+ojOlhH1xgBT26zGOCkesDCIwKiEAarfZdepGLRYS/3l9ozDmA40J 7R+fwLLP17WBqFnob1khS0lYMg4RbnMkffisI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dm+KLsbJm1Pte/aGy8ydVIQJnE4pi/hy/nZ5Gvn3Qosuy6OqBWAr/uu3dJ6q645JgM 9BV4CmfO59DW5IzXGtkJQprV8JH6XK1tzR7pkReCtERo2EYXJHKEGZEo4nHw7HN/IjQm BXSYYrOmscIl40+67PVWp0peSx7gN0zzVCLYg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> References: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:48:08 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before We Looped From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:48:09 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I wanted to share this material with everyone on the list as it was the last > band that > we played in before we began to loop in earnest in '95 Thanks, Rick. Great fun watching that! Here's what I was doing by that time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqvF1iV49uU Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 12:14:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F7C183477; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PsDTjggRwkIz+d8xHBugzfJUlKJFsjqAHl7kj9OYkFM=; b=PZg7E0T5aRNKAVECK2nYoc2pn0emOweTXjFszpkgXYsVYnv2hxQwsAKJGcudYmdOXn /DNKGk+uXdYBn59a4T9MaU+0cBbGCBhLhZJeQ1Fpf2h3sRujEXpQX9eNBkhC/NXU+dLu MaiEYCUjl6msesATHzqH2Za4jL6Z15UJ7A+mM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sS2WqJHTCfsNzk/gR08XaAiQcMy3VzT13yfqlOCcrM6193gg+BTjJ/Zzt/TOf1L/vR nnL++Swz54N2eKqEwMQGrmZf+ELjJw7liVudx6i3u4p0dNv0CXIH5Cm+hcJII0BY2hKB 4lcE5oFH3f3vM55uqA/5iN019PVmlXQqIhve0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5DE8A3.8060208@cruzio.com> References: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> <4D5DE8A3.8060208@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:14:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: >> >> Hey ya'll, (that's the co-ed pc way of saying "youse guys" for you >> Yankees) >> >> What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% >> improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? No, just instrumental in my case. To me the point in playing "100% improvised" is to make music you find exiting and share the experience live. Take risks and ride on the energy wave. It is an act of joy. Three dimensional dancing with sound. "A prayer" for those who believe in higher lifeforms. But I'm bringing "canned stuff" to the duo gig with Erdem at PRESENCES =C3=A9lectronique 2011. That festival provides an eight channel surround system and we think it would be fun to prepare some meticulously designed sounds from the album since the album was the reason they booked us to play there. The experiment is to see what spatial experiences one might be able to put on. We're also re-routing our live rigs for octaphonics and improvise over the canned stuff. It's funny that this scenario, improvisation along pre prepared tape, was were I began in -83. Until now I haven't looked back; only done total improvised music besides playing regular pop/techno/jazz. So Paris will be a sort of revival for me ;-)) A lot mor fun today with the digital technique! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 12:38:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95A4418347C; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 581958436/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.44/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.44 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhACADL3XU1YbRMs/2dsb2JhbAAMmAq+MYxphV4Ejz8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,186,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="581958436" Message-ID: <4D5E6866.20600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:39:02 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Before We Looped References: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:38:53 +0000 (UTC) ta Rick, particularly liked that cool switch from slow 5 to 3 and the highlife was spot on. andy around that time I was here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZONZ_b7zs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 12:59:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2320A18347D; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 295380723/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAFv8XU0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAM4x6FXgSMEYMu X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,186,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="295380723" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: , "Andy Owens" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:59:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Total Improv Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D5E6D2E.24384.F9F54@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> References: <6A220D4C-A92A-4D7A-9F33-135E0FEEBB21@1800dialword.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110218-0, 18/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:59:40 +0000 (UTC) On 17 Feb 2011 at 16:25, Andy Owens wrote: > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% > improv? I've always improvised, but since the beginnings of a set is the most fraught with danger, I have a few opening themes to get started, if I've no decent sound-check and still somewhat stressed. Most times, I just go for it, but it's handy to have a few ideas you can turn to when mental blockage strikes ;) All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 13:39:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE00F183481; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5E7699.3000104@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:39:37 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #724 for February 17, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:39:41 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110217.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #724 February 17, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Transformation" on Groove Unlimited. Nattefrost: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Nattefrost Seduced By Grief Dying Sun, Scarlet Moon (Groove) Steve Dinsdale On the Other On the Other Side (Northern Side III Echo) Steve Dinsdale On the Other On the Other Side (Northern Side IV Echo) Johan Agebjorn Swimming Through The Mountain Lake (Lotispike) the Blue Lagoon Create Portal We Live By the Machines (Groove) 3 Seconds of Air With Storms To We Are Dust Under the Dying Battle, When Sun (Tonefloat) Heaven Rebels * 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nattefrost Decadence Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost A Path Less Followed Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost Perfectly Connected Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost Fields of Infinity Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost Transformation Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost Destination Nowhere Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost The Contact Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost Kopenhachen Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost There Is a Light Transformation (Groove) Nattefrost A New Direction Transformation (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live in Germany 2008 & 2009" on Groove Unlimited. Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 14:07:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95F03183482; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:07:40 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andy butler CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:07:48 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > However, from my perspective I'd say that I'd seen you > re-create what is essentially the same 'piece' at more than > one show. > It could be as simple as using the same instrument with the > same loop techniques, but I got the impression there was > a bit more to it than that. Yeah, of course, I see what you say, and there have been some themes that keep popping up in my music, for sure............certainly sets of instruments that lend themselves to themes and , even occasionally, a melody that gets repeated......... I think, specifically, of a piece that I have done that uses an Orange bottle whose body I play that has a very limited melodic range controlled by the size of the opening. I think I"ve probably played that piece more than any other, but the melody is constrained by the object that I use. I think I only have about a 4th of an interval and I'm not fond of major scales so it comes out minor each time. Lol, I also have played some shows with specific conventional instruments whose grasp of are so tenuous that I have , literally, only learned the one melodic approach that I originally learned on the instrument. I think, specifically, of a piece I've done with Shakuhachi flute and a piece I've done with Armenian Duduk...........both so difficult for me to play that I've just put enough hours into them to play one scale that I like. My performances are also constrained when I tour to the amount of instruments I can physically carry with me. By the end of a 2 month tour of Europe and the UK as an example, I'm sick to death of the instruments I carry with me, largely because when I"m in the US, I mostly take a completely different set of instruments to every show I do. One year at the Boise Creative and Experimental Music Festival I actually went next door to a thrift store and purchased 1/2 of my set, whose 'found' instruments I left at the venue when I was done. So, if you take all the performances I've done over the years (and I play lots of different kinds of festivals, not just looping festivals) the lion share of all of my performances are actually improv pieces. One thing I dearly love to do is pick a set of timbres (or instruments) and walk onto stage without a thought in my head and then just follow what comes out. Again, just because of who I am as an artist, there will be themes that emerge. I like minor keys as an example and love a few ethnic scales that I tend to gravitate to (Lydian, b7 or the Rag Bairav: 1,b2, m3,4,5,b6,m7,8va). I tend to gravitate to rhythms as well..........I just adore playing anything in 12/8 with all of it's polyrhythmic possibilties and I love 5/4, 10/8 (in both 3322 and 3223 variants), 7/8, 9/8 and many different African, MiddleEastern, Indian, Caribbean, Balkan rhythms that I've studied over the years so those will be non-improv aspects. And, like you say, I use several different live looping and digital processing approaches that I use over and over. This past year I've been obsessed with distortion and fuzz and it's constraint, timbrally, as an example: fond of playing a fretless stratocaster that is either tuned to an open tuning or most usually, to an entire set of D.......all of which are purposefully tuned just a few cents off from each other (to excite the harmonics) So, yeah, not pure improv, I suppose, but a hell of a hell of a lot of improv compared to most musicians I know. I'd probably be a hell of a lot more popular if I didn't favor changing things up all the time, frankly, but I've also loved being free to do just that. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 14:17:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AA27183480; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:16:06 -0500 Thread-Topic: Total Improv To: Thread-Index: AcvPdnTghuvSxdVHQziRWmqM60urNw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2011 14:17:24.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[90606C80:01CBCF76] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:17:25 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 18, 2011, at 9:07 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > walk onto > stage without a thought in my head and then just follow what comes out. Man that would scare the sh_t out of me and I'm not cursing, take that liter= ally!!!! But, I'm getting there!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 14:45:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59AE1183485; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRkC2jZs+e831mJJP2SuTT1Nk4A+BkC1aS46U/xgiFc=; b=aPzaNo2hnWckSM5YG3LnmjBgaeGRe7TSdB43UOHzrMwdChZgys7uTtk7BeRuISP8jl SVPw5bOSZ7H2wq/pNpQ9+P35OUYjC6+v8IBpTF10qrMJHy19pRBzaRUcWeNoI9lc7xwC xPWhYRII59NYHacyHnZdnqTHZrnszLHSsm77k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kfqxMYaWt74R0mSLgQMu7wZ9yJOoqeKHmiSQeI1+4OU5ryX5kv5rUzg7sdnI7eGTuz +1Vht4bdIHSM5iau2j/Dg3ihIHKnqSHgK+bxn6wmACtS2AuHjfAqdKrkPG85SWV/Rs8Z XpnKgR080hSKHG7JWIJ5dDbRpOHX42BJ/J/yg= Message-ID: <4D5E8509.8040500@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:41:13 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Re: Total Improv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Andy O said: > What are some current or past bands or loopers that do complete, 100% improv? I mean like off the top of your head vocals and all? As an introduction, I'd like to state that complete 100% improvisation is a) overrated (http://bit.ly/hZ58xl) and b) not even possible (still need to write that text explaining this). That being said...following the use of the term which I believe is yours, I do that, exclusively since about 2000, with a few exceptions: about three tracks I did last year (http://bit.ly/ecbtVI, http://bit.ly/9rdWY6, http://bit.ly/edrip3), one track on my "Neinnein auf dem kleinen Weg" album which is a reinterpretation of an idea used for a track which was originally improvised for my "SAUBER!" album, and one track I played in Espoo in 2008 which was based on an improvised track from my Weird Specialist album (http://bit.ly/gwpcBF). From 2001 to about 2005, I had a band which also did unprepared stuff (http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=252). Also, all of my MoinSound Studio Sessions follow that approach (http://moinlabs.de/index.php?id=289, well, nearly all of it). > Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or even archive the songs..... No, I don't really sell records, but you can feel free to pay for a download ;) http://moinlabs.bandcamp.com/ [ok, self-marketing off now]. > Who does that? This is what I like to do, whoo, not easy, and really, to get there I have to master every sound my rig and my instruments can make. Feels like a long long road but > gratifying when it feels you are one with the machine. I don't see that mastering every possible sound (or even a few sounds) is more important for freely improvised stuff than it is for doing composed material, actually even less so. For me, just doing something with my (sometimes very complex) setup where I do not have any idea how the result might sound is a good starting point in improvisation to go from. Use new sounds, surreal effect settings, new instruments, functions you don't know - then see what happens and build on top of it. It really helps for going "all improvised" if you have a certain averseness towards rehearsing, practising, learning songs etc. What can help you getting better at it is recording lots of stuff you play, then reviewing and analyzing that and if you like something, try to find out how you arrived at it. So much on that huge topic, Rainer (who's been trying to get away from that improvisation addiction for several years) -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 14:59:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EC36183486; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M4l/XCiuBF4SkMH/Pk56xvChcx10HtGXsJUHnabynyU=; b=XCxiU8Ls7VAgAXjtkT3fv8OD/8IaMquguvyTfOTT3Cvj/d54OZ4MWjcNOTxl06PgDn 0+GzZzOXPFmGsd/L5fgdmBj3j7RkNxxFYX9TLXPMSirsuqSkrhw9jr0MsTRAhgQYpP5V srna6jnpHWzb+dVT8QneiBXd9BzwY0RJUUttM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VsENAe2bKmChmi6hJbxIQCuRcJrjoaZS9yt0EPvnh13ihxaoNGZ71FL4PU3MR4wjOE BRUi3rcEtQMDhmROXPB6KmotRWYBNbBNM91K1DxQbngrCGWK1UTaRsE+m05q8r4qvr0+ GZFD8Z59KFgAOk+L89wUw3mwguv+dkmlBQR18= Message-ID: <4D5E896B.7050307@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:59:55 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Looper's Delight Mailing List Subject: Before We Looped Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Great footage! If I have to choose my two highlights from the video, that would be a) the lead guitarist with the 80s New Wave band hairdo, stage acting and guitar rig which I understand is Bill, and b) the part in Sapeurs Strut where it looks like the bass player ist playing the bass with his left hand only, while playing congas with his right one ;). Unfortunately, video footage of me doing stuff from that era is all lost...(no, really). -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 16:02:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57297183457; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=43F7WKg6zwpStj9o0MthmyONgOFFRZroNi4LGpzgDgM=; b=pAujOKGKazSeLkV1/3JvpuFtlzume99WEhIGZr+Vaic83kFhMLYKHMBSsAZjLttE5a Tm0he2jWY3s/T9+tA5phI/WhW7QGFNozHiwMx249WHBTNDVkaGnum5j+/VVioskkomV6 JDyfBfJgBSiJ5mF76rYAElvNU9lyJi8bNz4UU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XaY4nwbbq32JZiMSWSqB5pzO0pgeyM2s7abaZczsl7woONw6r+A7zmdtK+bkNoBjsb FkSbCYTF/FYDdj8THB4u9uqTX4FirWGDNRav+0LpJ1tNfio2lvHyWjec75OqYhNyTvf9 R+jWUKuIbJbrvk4WkNgNM5qqY5r7uXuzXu2B8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:02:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Before we Looped From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f95c5a0bb82049c90a2de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:02:05 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f95c5a0bb82049c90a2de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't loop onstage with it much yet. Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in Atlanta. Randy Duke: Bass Mike Geeslin: Drums Me: Guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqLpDmHuGs Jeff --bcaec53f95c5a0bb82049c90a2de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't loop onstage with it much yet.
Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in Atlanta.

Randy Duke: Bass
Mike Geeslin: Drums
Me: Guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqLpDmHuGs

Jeff

--bcaec53f95c5a0bb82049c90a2de-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 16:11:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4845618348E; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=A3rEz8dQoVtFJrjYyioA:9 a=aCRWVnCgx8DFiQ-DfK7ytNh3qSEA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Total Improv Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:11:16 -0800 References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Andy, On Feb 18, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > On Feb 18, 2011, at 9:07 AM, "Rick Walker" > wrote: > >> walk onto >> stage without a thought in my head and then just follow what comes >> out. > > Man that would scare the sh_t out of me and I'm not cursing, take > that literally!!!! > > But, I'm getting there!!! > > Andy o This is, essentially, what I've been doing since 1987. It's hard, and it's often inconsistent when it comes to the end result - how could it help but be. Real improvisation is always, always, always emotionally cathartic and physically draining. There is almost no way to prepare for it either. Some of the gigs I've spent the most time "woodshedding" for have turned out the worst. Some of the gigs I've prepared for the very least (or not at all) have turned out the absolute best. But if it happens to be a situation where I am playing WITH other performers (or perhaps traveling a good distance to play for someone's festival) it's hard to set aside the "common sense" feeling that that you **owe** it to them to "bone up" and put in the time preparing anyway. So I frequently do . . . and sadly with the same predictable (lackluster) result. In order to overcome this, one key (for me) seems to be to set aside all sense of expectation . . . and any and all need to prove myself to anyone - not an easy thing for an often over-sensitive and insecure person like myself. There is a sort of basic cognitive dissonance between the ideal of total improvisation (on the one hand) and expectation of some particular end result . . . call it "success" or whatever (on the other). In order to be able to do it "right," it seems that you need to **not care** about doing it "right" . . . or any other aspect of the end result at all . . . and enter a mind-space where process itself is everything. This is not the way the common everyday world works for most of us. Our jobs (whatever they are) and our relationships (whatever those are) all scream at us to perform to someone's expectations (if not out own). By nature, we don't really inhabit a world that allows us to simply be ourselves. That is the way it is for me at least. Art and music are a way of pursuing it . . . indirectly. Musical improv, or painterly improv (I've done both) are both like child's play. Children, at least early on . . . before they get "ruined" by us grown- ups . . . find it easier to get into the head-space where they can play and simply enjoy the process of playing and **not care** or compare what the end result may be. There is no "right" way to make a mudpie . . . or knock down a stack of blocks . . . or make funny noises with your lips (LOL). Overcoming the fear of live improv involves becoming a child again in many ways. At least it is for me. And at 57 (almost 58) it is becoming harder and harder to do. Perhaps when dementia finally sets in I will (finally) be brilliant at it though . . . LOL. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 16:24:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6790718348F; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=P5GOE3U4GxgZu/QqKXLTBPclrgrNzP5pnP66FqMhXxY=; b=OMKobmZ0uGh8F70R9KDacxvkyo12VeOM1sPubtgAHXDEx3XiaLqXZQZX6y7CI5J9uJ 2wRg8E8MTRt02tbIZNRI6EROZi6nTZ2akN6zEd3l1lK4gJjpD0iOyOTefg/9pjmq3s1s jE040gGnCb7TO9U99cOVmNHRdpRtIWjQoNpfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=wzKX+uPckdcjUc/70xldl7+5LupAM0RFaxLmTQFEJCONyfXCNMUaB3rGDQ47Y1vIlj P2PiWozNmA2J8C/PMoFBVJu2AWKPPVp2OHCsgmQDXypajzqcUhdX9mvqIPEjkAsS1dD+ G1UBGLcWTWA9mkG04T5B9g2KqLWgBD87p87Os= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:14:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a529d00a11049c90cf7e Resent-Message-ID: <0oMYf.A.TcE.J1pXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:24:41 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a529d00a11049c90cf7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm never as happy as when I'm making something up completely from nothing in a looping environment. Though over the past years I've taken to doing a combination of live and prerecorded. However, still, my prerecords are usually mostly of loops I've made and then grown attached to. I've long since given up the judgement and evaluation part of what's 'better' in terms of the ration, both in my work and the work of others. > This is, essentially, what I've been doing since 1987. > > It's hard, and it's often inconsistent when it comes to the end result - > how could it help but be. > > Real improvisation is always, always, always emotionally cathartic and > physically draining. > > There is almost no way to prepare for it either. > > Some of the gigs I've spent the most time "woodshedding" for have turned > out the worst. > > Some of the gigs I've prepared for the very least (or not at all) have > turned out the absolute best. --20cf3054a529d00a11049c90cf7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm never as happy as when I'm making something up completely from = nothing in a looping environment. =A0Though over the past years I've ta= ken to doing a combination of live and prerecorded. =A0However, still, my p= rerecords are usually mostly of loops I've made and then grown attached= to. =A0I've long since given up the judgement and evaluation part of w= hat's 'better' in terms of the ration, both in my work and the = work of others.=A0


This is, essentially, what I've been doing since 1987.

It's hard, and it's often inconsistent when it comes to the end res= ult - how could it help but be.

Real improvisation is always, always, always emotionally cathartic and phys= ically draining.

There is almost no way to prepare for it either.

Some of the gigs I've spent the most time "woodshedding" for = have turned out the worst.

Some of the gigs I've prepared for the very least (or not at all) have = turned out the absolute best.

--20cf3054a529d00a11049c90cf7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 17:17:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1FD0183492; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WpO+VbVXDIkAJc9unTpFvzZn6owOeLC9oQp6ageC8cw=; b=GRk7x/uUFjhOlZzLMMnyWg8izv0KLSl18zSTA6OhpwrY7uRQzqaxXgfyxMbzQtCXWx 55MU9ln8QZRdkNib9FLNjfM0l0PuFP8kHqa+7aRtYScPRxT1iA59GPtDhS2KiaMzQDck 4cU2QOwuAPC6N1wOV4FXNiMC6TyXkjdW1aiYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aFZshX+KRLRU7Qtlj92jXGW/B+5kbkatxmH7sVOl6SlpuO8UQFT6yIE/NkNEz2lply 0wu0VIiSc6k4T3wohEeYkxzR2AavoiagF80fWXk1Norn/1nLFsv+6QWyJMs6RtfOD2kx +eGgJnYVK3no7I2d38cmabBZLAme4mWxtkF9g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before we Looped From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a38fa536fa049c91adc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:17:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a38fa536fa049c91adc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jeff as I posted it's cool 'to see from whence you have come'. Very tight and edgy group. Drums sound great, all three of you sound very 'in tune' in what you're doing. Lot of years since '91 and know a lot of life. Good stuff, the music remains... On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't > loop onstage with it much yet. > Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in Atlant= a. > > > Randy Duke: Bass > Mike Geeslin: Drums > Me: Guitar > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs > > Jeff > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf3054a38fa536fa049c91adc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jeff as I posted it's cool 'to see from whence you have come= 9;.=A0 Very tight and edgy group.=A0 Drums sound great, all three of you so= und very 'in tune' in what you're doing.=A0 Lot of years since = '91 and know a lot of life.=A0 Good stuff, the music remains...

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Duke = <jeffloops@gmai= l.com> wrote:
I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't= loop onstage with it much yet.
Here is some bootleg footage of our ban= d in '91 at Spring Break in Atlanta.

Randy Duke: Bass
Mike G= eeslin: Drums
Me: Guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs

Jeff




--
From Brooklyn= To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter= Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF Interna= tional.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf3054a38fa536fa049c91adc7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 17:20:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BAF018348C; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jn2MRfTIXOaQ3icXKXKLznu1/sEGZ4SBloxP7r9ICww=; b=ELgs4pC7+3K8SmpTPjculR38NYF5w1V6EBUDjwwksq9AncQ7/LaDeGwoHj4sDxu33G wlfIE3VBHz1ag74NxRinxTXW2ONUvT2Reg0MGOJT8T2oPdUdfJLcKAQo9hmyG7U+5CXj EGUXAtpDZhh8wChnBKIT3qXfRGA4cWDA9/YTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hgXp/CI60NRjztq8y2ozmMsvEInPXshijjI9Pot+xTJWYm4Hls7PwJhi3QU6Sy2lDL L9C5MYnchLt0g2ROtCxMAKX7e+TRoan7H/mjFPxWoeTBYScqVgTkRCAlygK4B5omXsZC GgTGctoUjFd5YrSO7zI2dOJDKMfBBFGXwfYZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:20:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:20:27 +0000 (UTC) I'm also 100% improv for most of my shows, both solo and in my band Tiny Owl (tinyowl.bandcamp.com). Tiny Owl is wrestling with the idea of learning a few standards, but at this point we're still improv. Some of my best performances have been the ones I was most terrified about going in. Sometimes I'll forget a key piece of gear and will have to work without it. (It didn't work out that way at the last looping festival - I didn't play well that time at all.) About once a year I'll have something where I have to make a "score" for myself. Last year, it was a collaboration with local musician Cheryl Leonard (who plays plants and glass instruments) and two dancers. The "score" for each song was a diagram of how the pedals were set, a mood, and a list of the pads I use to generate the melody. Andy, you went: >Like they are so into it, dont even sell records or even archive the songs..... I'm not aware of this being an expectation of improvised musicians. In fact, archiving the performances and listening to them later were huge in both figuring out what I'm about, musically, and learning what works and what doesn't. -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 18:01:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A25D183492; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xl5mg3r7YeWGO9WpCCmi608bBu3kHEZRK3GFZ6f2SjQ=; b=L3AGWcphZ2Ryl4+xyyHh/d5cf5vfjwiK81jdaYbNjzpeN3dVrrm+XNiok9jSUZw+c6 mEwwVOjB5eUE5uJMhwjdBt2CXc5LbpTHYXHmkbvzjyJXOh6iasVxMkNFkpJNPjvx/0OD w0knVilbYE+RtDzYERnY5Ml9Rcnye4U7r3w+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HcLDxXLVhLeYvnHV4vOQ3hWDxdWcwRBBowUYX8vtvUe0iqJ1dRImxrZrKS4HxN07/L qjCWnATzd9hPb4TsbIhVnupDYdIN5kLuJ8/KTqjiXWQYqPYPuqGf9xZ4lFpbZHNv4PSC PhVFB6QRYDQgdTMpjkTbJy10f61vYp7XqPHYQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before we Looped From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f942d614e41049c924edc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:01:42 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f942d614e41049c924edc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim, yes, a long time ago and oh so young :) My brother Randy on bass passed away this past year, oh how I miss him. Mik= e the drummer is married with children and living well in Atlanta and I am doing 99.9% of my music from my apt in Florida. I have only played 1 gig in (real life) public since these days, thanks Rick Walker! :) peace out, Jeff On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Hey Jeff as I posted it's cool 'to see from whence you have come'. Very > tight and edgy group. Drums sound great, all three of you sound very 'in > tune' in what you're doing. Lot of years since '91 and know a lot of lif= e. > Good stuff, the music remains... > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't >> loop onstage with it much yet. >> Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in >> Atlanta. >> >> Randy Duke: Bass >> Mike Geeslin: Drums >> Me: Guitar >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > -- > *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodi= n > & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. > > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com > --bcaec53f942d614e41049c924edc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jim, yes, a long time ago and oh so young :)

My brother Randy= on bass passed away this past year, oh how I miss him. Mike the drummer is= married with children and living well in Atlanta and I am doing 99.9% of m= y music from my apt in Florida. I have only played 1 gig in (real life) pub= lic since these days, thanks Rick Walker! :)

peace out,

Jeff




--bcaec53f942d614e41049c924edc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 18:14:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0350183495; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:13:28 -0500 Thread-Topic: Total Improv Thread-Index: AcvPl561P5AQgDknT96L6MIgpVxC1w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2011 18:14:08.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[A29F6EC0:01CBCF97] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Wow cool thread whos idea was that???;) You know I guess in a way its kind of the same as improv leads, as mainly al= ways being a Bluegrass player, in your leads its all improv, for me at least= , so I guess if you break it down into 30 second mando breaks, I been doing i= t all my life!!!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 18:47:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A891B183497; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5EBEC3.1050808@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:31 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Thomas CC: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Before We Looped References: <4D5E4B7E.60306@cruzio.com> <433452EF-75D4-480E-9FDC-E831AE49C02A@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <433452EF-75D4-480E-9FDC-E831AE49C02A@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Daniel Thomas wrote: Speaking of early looping ventures Rick, et al... check out this audio clip of the band improvising at Kuumbwa in 1993. This is 4 guys with Jammen (Jampersons?) linked via midi clock. This recording predates the even the 3rd Wave performances at Mobo Sushi. I believe this to be the very first live-looping performance ever given in Santa Cruz. There are a few reasons why I'm skeptical about the dating of this recording, Daniel (though I might be mistaken) and wonder if it is perhaps mislabeled. Here's why I don't think the timeline is accurate: 1) to my knowledge, the Paradis Loop Delay which became the Oberheim Echoplex and eventually, the Gibson Echoplex wasn't released to the general public until '94 and the Lexicon Jamman in '95. Bill, Gary and I were aware of the Jamman before it was released and , to my best recollection, bought them the very first week they were available at Union Grove. I don't remember the Jamman existing as early as '93 (loop historians, is this accurate?). I could be wrong. 2) Gary, Bill and I also remember very clearly that Mobo was the first time we played in public with synchronized looping. We've talked about it. 3) I absolutely know that I looped with Bill and Gary before I ever looped with you. We honestly thought we were inventing the wheel (I knew very little about the history of looping dating back to Terry Riley in the 60's at that time) so it's burned in my conciousness, that time. I couldn't believe someone would actually hire us and pay us to learn 'on the job', as it were. 4) Lastly, the band existed from '89 until 2001 or 2002 and, to my recollection, the tunes 'Curry Gumbo' and 'Virtual World' were later tunes in our career. I think they were written at or after the Japanese tour which I think was in '95 (help me here, Daniel, Gary and Bill). Still, I don't always have the best memory for dates so I yield to yours, Bill's and Gary's collective memories about this. I'll look around for the video footage of this, however to see if we can corroborate your theory. and.............Thanks for everything. You are really fucking wonderful and my life is so much better because I met you at Union Grove Music one day and we took a shine to each other. I hope we get to loop together sometime in the future. love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 19:03:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6C7183498; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5EC290.3030508@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:03:44 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Duke CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7YSmrD.A.t9B.WKsXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but > didn't loop onstage with it much yet. > Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in > Atlanta. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYqLpDmHuGs > > > Rockin' it, Jeff! Nice! rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 19:27:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26ACE18349E; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Looping Grammy Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B92E66@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looping Grammy Thread-Index: AcvOsNVkFvvn8BzdSQ6fb/Yff2OtagA7pvtg References: <452457.58268.qm@web36703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0B4E116D8B9040E38B48F29B250E0C7B@ELUK1> <7E94308F-5EDD-4DC7-98D7-9CBE900004D6@1800dialword.com> <35062760-7794-4BA9-B956-EB0929AE9482@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2011 19:27:42.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[E99E96C0:01CBCFA1] Resent-Message-ID: <73pLe.A.cuC.vgsXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Crazy, get in there fix it up!! -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:39 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping Grammy Thanks.. I've been thinking lately about the genre grouping currently=20 in use.. quite bizarre and possibly in need of updating. For=20 instance in the Producing / Engineering category you have=20 "Classical" and "Non-Classical" which means that Production and=20 Engineering grammy submissions for the Black Eyed Peas were up=20 against Pat Metheny's "Orchestrion"... is it any wonder that a=20 certain Bias may influence the outcome? >"Charles Zwicky" wrote: > >> I'm up for a Governors position on the board of the Producer and >> Engineer's wing of the NY Chapter of NARAS... > >Good luck Chas, my buddy Larry Seyer in Austin has the same spot, or=20 >did, hope you get there!! > >Andy o --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 19:54:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D71F61834A0; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_babdef31-96e9-4d6e-a718-688e96386abe_" X-Originating-IP: [184.251.59.220] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: Audio to midi Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:54:11 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2011 19:54:11.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C873050:01CBCFA5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) --_babdef31-96e9-4d6e-a718-688e96386abe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy everyone! Im curious if anyone has had any luck with a real time audio to midi plugin= . I'm using bidule. The only one I've found so far is called widi=2C but I ca= n't seem to get it recognized in bidule=2C anyone else tried this one?. I'm= using mac 10.5. Any help is much appreciated.... essentially I want to use my electric kali= mba to play synth/string/drum sounds = --_babdef31-96e9-4d6e-a718-688e96386abe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy everyone!
Im curious if anyone has had a= ny luck with a real time audio to midi plugin.
I'm using bidule. The onl= y one I've found so far is called widi=2C but I can't seem to get it recogn= ized in bidule=2C anyone else tried this one?. I'm using mac 10.5.
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= --_babdef31-96e9-4d6e-a718-688e96386abe_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 19:56:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B115C18349C; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298058967; bh=z1bytLZ0nfbByPt0j61IZI3AqcT5sgead8BbM4TruoA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KqYcs05ZjtpY222uQR/K4NQUfyV85CdN9X6dEjHVEMrgTC+wTCHTi2hFXY/QggQ7qi9RS28ICV8uCkl1sl46SeAD4KhzsByi8tffPP7GMcVqskiffuXV2aoZcY+G1GwTW7/BNslPZkeMh9ZuBKCO0CuCXf6Agw1Bjmf9MiJ+WOw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s0YT42dIXDMbyck3qUe+lGeLgIBZDoOF5f1CBdsU7TSNowyGlDob1ozd+0p6yVONcUNSn18RwPaETqWSD7q4bGIik8bLBS2/gHQKrSLbbUMdg+QXGYFg9t/JAzTx1kNxAQAYZoFSVuKXAdk549JtUCYaFtSAZt/G3W8ztnIaw0Y=; Message-ID: <608672.35187.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pCQ72D8VM1mByne1Wm3QE7Q1cMG5s89cY.iTztT5NvgNsET JOGVMctF9a9PJwBBHm8lSgN5MRAFELOF0uxIypsL8O1R2Ni2pE5mZqMX9zm. e32EvBr.QHKDcxaXd8U5vUQ96Uo.s9m6lyDWv0uqJS.LuRcOQaZhzsLeQ6y0 Oob.NSmVd0d3b85c1b9hPe2z51acXukjCdj4z5vjkQiUPuUZrEriaCp0nved b3abUpdJkKyjFRrQHdxFQHqCq6Z1dOLBu8me3UsQGNyaY5QuaumEBkTnBPgn TKrdsriF5xx7uphCFriHPNQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D5E5C68.80207@tiscali.co.uk> <4D5E7D2C.2090806@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:56:07 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Total Improv To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-411237136-1298058967=:35187" Resent-Message-ID: <1Z3wmC.A.XiD.Z7sXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-411237136-1298058967=:35187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, =0A=0Athanks Ted. =0A=0ACourage and Honor:-)=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A=0A__= ______________________________=0AFrom: tEd =AE KiLLiAn =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Fri, February 18, 20= 11 5:11:16 PM=0ASubject: Re: Total Improv=0A=0AAndy,=0A=0AOn Feb 18, 2011, = at 6:16 AM, Andy Owens wrote:=0A=0A> On Feb 18, 2011, at 9:07 AM, "Rick Wal= ker" wrote:=0A> =0A>> walk onto=0A>> stage without a = thought in my head and then just follow what comes out.=0A> =0A> Man that w= ould scare the sh_t out of me and I'm not cursing, take that =0A>literally!= !!!=0A> =0A> But, I'm getting there!!!=0A> =0A> Andy o=0A=0AThis is, essent= ially, what I've been doing since 1987.=0A=0AIt's hard, and it's often inco= nsistent when it comes to the end result - how =0Acould it help but be.=0A= =0AReal improvisation is always, always, always emotionally cathartic and = =0Aphysically draining.=0A=0AThere is almost no way to prepare for it eithe= r.=0A=0ASome of the gigs I've spent the most time "woodshedding" for have t= urned out the =0Aworst.=0A=0ASome of the gigs I've prepared for the very le= ast (or not at all) have turned =0Aout the absolute best.=0A=0ABut if it ha= ppens to be a situation where I am playing WITH other performers (or =0Aper= haps traveling a good distance to play for someone's festival) it's hard to= =0Aset aside the "common sense" feeling that that you **owe** it to them t= o "bone =0Aup" and put in the time preparing anyway.=0A=0ASo I frequently d= o . . . and sadly with the same predictable (lackluster) =0Aresult.=0A=0AIn= order to overcome this, one key (for me) seems to be to set aside all sens= e =0Aof expectation . . . and any and all need to prove myself to anyone - = not an =0Aeasy thing for an often over-sensitive and insecure person like m= yself.=0A=0AThere is a sort of basic cognitive dissonance between the ideal= of total =0Aimprovisation (on the one hand) and expectation of some partic= ular end result . =0A. . call it "success" or whatever (on the other).=0A= =0AIn order to be able to do it "right," it seems that you need to **not c= are** =0Aabout doing it "right" . . . or any other aspect of the end result= at all . . . =0Aand enter a mind-space where process itself is everything.= =0A=0AThis is not the way the common everyday world works for most of us.= =0A=0AOur jobs (whatever they are) and our relationships (whatever those ar= e) all =0Ascream at us to perform to someone's expectations (if not out own= ).=0A=0ABy nature, we don't really inhabit a world that allows us to simply= be =0Aourselves.=0A=0AThat is the way it is for me at least.=0A=0AArt and = music are a way of pursuing it . . . indirectly.=0A=0AMusical improv, or pa= interly improv (I've done both) are both like child's play.=0A=0AChildren, = at least early on . . . before they get "ruined" by us grown-ups . . . =0Af= ind it easier to get into the head-space where they can play and simply enj= oy =0Athe process of playing and **not care** or compare what the end resul= t may be.=0A=0AThere is no "right" way to make a mudpie . . . or knock down= a stack of blocks . =0A. . or make funny noises with your lips (LOL).=0A= =0AOvercoming the fear of live improv involves becoming a child again in ma= ny ways.=0A=0AAt least it is for me.=0A=0AAnd at 57 (almost 58) it is becom= ing harder and harder to do.=0A=0APerhaps when dementia finally sets in I w= ill (finally) be brilliant at it though =0A. . . LOL.=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0ATed= =0A=0A=0A --0-411237136-1298058967=:35187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey, 

thanks Ted. 
<= br>
Courage and Honor:-)

Antony

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com
Sent: Fri, Fe= bruary 18, 2011 5:11:16 PM
Subject= : Re: Total Improv

=0AAndy,

On Feb 18, 2011= , at 6:16 AM, Andy Owens wrote:

> On Feb 18, 2011, at 9:07 AM, "R= ick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> = walk onto
>> stage without a thought in my head and then just foll= ow what comes out.
>
> Man that would scare the sh_t out of me= and I'm not cursing, take that literally!!!!
>
> But, I'm get= ting there!!!
>
> Andy o

This is, essentially, what I'v= e been doing since 1987.

It's hard, and it's often inconsistent when= it comes to the end result - how could it help but be.

Real improvi= sation is always, always, always emotionally cathartic and physically drain= ing.

There is almost no way to prepare for it either.

Some of= the gigs I've spent the most time "woodshedding" for have turned out the w= orst.

Some of the gigs I've prepared for the very least (or not at all) have turned out the absolute best.
<= br>But if it happens to be a situation where I am playing WITH other perfor= mers (or perhaps traveling a good distance to play for someone's festival) = it's hard to set aside the "common sense" feeling that that you **owe** it = to them to "bone up" and put in the time preparing anyway.

So I freq= uently do . . . and sadly with the same predictable (lackluster) result.
In order to overcome this, one key (for me) seems to be to set aside a= ll sense of expectation . . . and any and all need to prove myself to anyon= e - not an easy thing for an often over-sensitive and insecure person like = myself.

There is a sort of basic cognitive dissonance between the id= eal of total improvisation (on the one hand) and expectation of some partic= ular end result . . . call it "success" or whatever (on the other).

= In order to be able to do it "right," it seems  that you need to **not care** about doing it "right" . . . or any other aspect of the en= d result at all . . . and enter a mind-space where process itself is everyt= hing.

This is not the way the common everyday world works for most o= f us.

Our jobs (whatever they are) and our relationships (whatever t= hose are) all scream at us to perform to someone's expectations (if not out= own).

By nature, we don't really inhabit a world that allows us to = simply be ourselves.

That is the way it is for me at least.

A= rt and music are a way of pursuing it . . . indirectly.

Musical impr= ov, or painterly improv (I've done both) are both like child's play.
Children, at least early on . . . before they get "ruined" by us grown-ups= . . . find it easier to get into the head-space where they can play and si= mply enjoy the process of playing and **not care** or compare what the end = result may be.

There is no "right" way to make a mudpie . . . or knock down a stack of blocks . . . or make funny noises with your lips = (LOL).

Overcoming the fear of live improv involves becoming a child = again in many ways.

At least it is for me.

And at 57 (almost = 58) it is becoming harder and harder to do.

Perhaps when dementia fi= nally sets in I will (finally) be brilliant at it though . . . LOL.

= Cheers,

Ted


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=0A=0A --0-411237136-1298058967=:35187-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 20:49:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2224F18349F; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 669525.62128.bm@omp1029.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=SrnS2QIH7oMDjMrZFoyoBGQQbOKcKCI0AWqyGAat9giZaU94b6ep3MfS2u/7qmtTF8e1bnCEy9shJJ4UZQ46Iq/lf6qRWzQPiKvubQuunb6ZuUrL6NWIkm6Kvqy88k8H47T/BdnKZGztyZZQf9NWu6yeIKLaTnGn4GYRjOsBTKM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298062149; bh=HUWMQIzIU7XzzUDwFXpp6tkxR8qq42Wm6JBKa+WBd8w=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=eSBx7hdBM5mkoJCsxENuIPdnOSwaRsADUuTHPmBTbsW+FqtDoYv8aYLcBNvt+mvyQ1qMsgCXmlED9JGIfH+KQuf33fEIIFP27kW6QoIIcYu+GiYX60m7Xis8EPgLLVXoBypPQW9XZjP02VhCNA/GVe8lYGueCTjnnoKMVnnSDfY= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: dqh_xFUVM1m.g54zt0EIqfwuuPZwcVCmIT7OPyJH5B_KIQt NJS5YPbxBxB1j7ila7HrqmEKXpD6nuAk146b95H3XgC2FULr2pZIt0vkiSWx kE9njSnDo.p8oPexffJL0WbBGYeW9ezx_NaxNPtCNecGv.LCPDxv0nhyHub. J28lrWIeTbBCVbTq7kfCRYp.boYEXZkUXzMksgLl2VxKSUbaLcS7K2loW1Ft EI_S6WZA6COZl3R_mqmtuiXkOOB.E02QZyG23yyDrUJL1PQNZfALAOuA8etq r8.MogWg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--220118991 From: Matt Stevens Subject: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:49:04 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:49:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--220118991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Lots of loops and interesting production. What do you think? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-5--220118991 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Lots of loops and interesting = production. What do you think?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




= --Apple-Mail-5--220118991-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 20:54:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D6118349F; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nqDtSORwW2UgeKkSjx7ww0EmfeqFRET36LwysDx/H6M=; b=Zkxek14F2H/Tg9064+XG4759wF65mtAl6chEkQehGMDmJgtuQXjqdSvSF3p7Wjsd4A 8+dUoqg/1SGym+ScYsp9rCXLuKVM7L6hq5bNTCwwfRfsHijC9XxTbaFHIKRaAL48i5xC 8pPgU+aFDoKSCpps2E7pSVCY4/4DPku9TTZR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P2gt7Vy8VkKDhyTQCFkKsu4+GdQiB8fzOyFkYHPAoF4myjVPcrbH6M5hrCpSC8oBMp QLr4YDZUaAmPCS9bSKC30V+8+p5722hWchyW9t8BuEY+uIm1BZiqzctwRz615YG1wr/U /SGUHs54od7IDS9XvDNquBUIWt4Vcm9dor2bg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:54:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f937d41b346049c94b768 Resent-Message-ID: <_--1VB.A.9SF.zxtXNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:11 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f937d41b346049c94b768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What a great thread! All of my stuff has been total improv or constructed from improv for quite a long time. I say improv although as Rick and others have pointed out I have developed certain sounds and patterns that find their way into things try as a I might to not do this :) No matter what I do I sound like me at least to me. Pretty much everything is available from Bandcamp as pay what you like (0 is fine!) downloads. No email required. http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ peace out, jeff --bcaec53f937d41b346049c94b768 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What a great thread!

All of my stuff has been total improv or constr= ucted from improv for quite a long time.
I say improv although as Rick a= nd others have pointed out I have developed certain sounds
=A0and patter= ns that find their way into things try as a I might to not do this :) No ma= tter what I do I sound like me at least to me.

Pretty much everything is available from Bandcamp as pay what you like = (0 is fine!) downloads. No email required.
http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/

peace out,

jef= f
--bcaec53f937d41b346049c94b768-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 20:54:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 155401834AC; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkHAK5rXk1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYHo4LvBiFXgSFC4pA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,189,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="103885014" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:57:21 -0600 References: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:13 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Lots of loops and interesting production. What do you think? Really liked the one tune I heard. Best contemporary mainstream rock- ish band going (imho) by a country mile. Loved "In Rainbows". Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 20:54:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A62A1834A1; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=72s5aY6sKtHcnJ9cqbh8cyAOIKZYLKV8ZTaSiz/+EoI=; b=Rwvgc2UvG5MjOqNDfA6Obb8DRPdovSUzpc55cUAD9OtIBU9euVrvZkCSCDlpJs41zC uKO31/njAf9JqfmTq/MljfPNyQNIEHgBBRnGmM1YSRiDzdRdbliDxtNabe83qiwjaZE9 1kgV2t22kqy6hj8uKMwY+L/EW9hdyIxKWHd7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YM9YRpVJWpcUNSaw/YriePEV8QG4TWdxmkas401sNVCeS/8fw2eRWtzlLg5urHy6JF gZLPcBTDqGyTD0xeV6AkBP9tu/qnN8rbYlWG01Tx0dDBgEBl8Qv059PfQLBIC8w0XYsJ UrmJy2GgZd+x/0+Kec4TXb0W2aLYcMl27YV+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:54:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:54:26 +0000 (UTC) I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=>midi plugin in bidule...under "Groups" => "Hansje" => "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through and giving me midi-out to drive Alchemy or Kontakt. Can't remember exactly where I found it now; probably was on the bidule forum, which is always worth checking. BTW, that's getting used on a puny little Dell MINI 9 Hackintosh netbook runnning OS X 10.5+ Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:54 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > Howdy everyone! > Im curious if anyone has had any luck with a real time audio to midi plugin. > I'm using bidule. The only one I've found so far is called widi, but I can't > seem to get it recognized in bidule, anyone else tried this one?. I'm using > mac 10.5. > Any help is much appreciated.... essentially I want to use my electric > kalimba to play synth/string/drum sounds > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 21:25:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B0A61834A7; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OxvdwjqHNrHb2MMFiPr5w2zL3I8E1g6zOuszVUw4ykw=; b=RCihg7NskGJD/7E2G4ZCa9KGEvHFxXKYZXacWOPOZfhMFAS0AFe+3ePPVJ/M1ZO1n/ xKGO6shv3/mBb61omLLSMycnR2nAUY4PzgjkU3bwCN2a17uYCl7eDqEVB+8WN6f/BlQf bif39X30iYapyf9SnXbdC9KxjPqiMU8Zq13SI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pNm4fR5/ANHb/Q2PxG9S3JmR9LWJRbl1dDOpBDnTeUgj61mcSUpQ/IqgG0Kmi60cQw ARcrKM9vyqg4HddN3t+4hwXuuYMsCYZLfjmyFBS+HtFs7X1NUjewOleNjeIa9e/hsemR t2GFQI/EP3YIR3+t0lbj/vaf0G+/RYsWACPL0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:25:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:25:45 +0000 (UTC) I've also fooled around with the spectral bidules to convert audio to midi with good results. I think this is the way to go if you're already using bidule. I'll definitely try to find that group you mention Dennis, thanks for the tip. Sylvain On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=>midi plugin in > bidule...under "Groups" => "Hansje" => "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked > pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through and giving me > midi-out to drive Alchemy or Kontakt. Can't remember exactly where I > found it now; probably was on the bidule forum, which is always worth > checking. BTW, that's getting used on a puny little Dell MINI 9 > Hackintosh netbook runnning OS X 10.5+ > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:54 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: >> Howdy everyone! >> Im curious if anyone has had any luck with a real time audio to midi plugin. >> I'm using bidule. The only one I've found so far is called widi, but I can't >> seem to get it recognized in bidule, anyone else tried this one?. I'm using >> mac 10.5. >> Any help is much appreciated.... essentially I want to use my electric >> kalimba to play synth/string/drum sounds >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 18 23:39:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5460E1834A7; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_06JBlMzf61Sqyb2t8oH+aQ)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-18_09:2011-02-18,2011-02-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102180153 Message-id: <70E8CEFE-0C8F-42E6-9145-389033082BD7@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Audio to midi Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:39:26 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:39:55 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_06JBlMzf61Sqyb2t8oH+aQ) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Widi works great in Ableton and RAX .... On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:54 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > Howdy everyone! > Im curious if anyone has had any luck with a real time audio to midi > plugin. > I'm using bidule. The only one I've found so far is called widi, but > I can't seem to get it recognized in bidule, anyone else tried this > one?. I'm using mac 10.5. > Any help is much appreciated.... essentially I want to use my > electric kalimba to play synth/string/drum sounds --Boundary_(ID_06JBlMzf61Sqyb2t8oH+aQ) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Widi works great in Ableton and = RAX ....

On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:54 PM, FRO DIDDLY = wrote:

To: Subject: re:audio to midi Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:49:02 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2011 06:49:02.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[180EF810:01CBD001] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 06:49:04 +0000 (UTC) --_eec88878-b4a5-4fa1-8e6c-3c6e3381cd59_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you so much for the suggestions=2C im plucking strings with my kalimb= a now=2C ty! The Wandering Madman=20 = --_eec88878-b4a5-4fa1-8e6c-3c6e3381cd59_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank you so much for the suggestions=2C im plucking strings with my kalimb= a now=2C ty!



The= Wandering Madman

= --_eec88878-b4a5-4fa1-8e6c-3c6e3381cd59_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 09:23:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9BD61834AF; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D5F8BD4.2000908@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:22:28 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Thought Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1Nr1RC.A.VJB.Aw4XNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:23:12 +0000 (UTC) THOUGHT RADIO: http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio ======================================================================= My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show, will be Saturday, February 19 at 6 am EST/GMT-5. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase One. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 11:24:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E381834B5; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 582334449/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.180.21/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.180.21 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkBAB43X01V0rQV/2dsb2JhbAAMmB3KCIVeBI9C X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,191,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="582334449" Message-ID: <4D5FA88B.2000707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:24:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Before we Looped References: <4D5EC290.3030508@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:24:48 +0000 (UTC) after this Francombe was banned from shoegaze music for 3 months for "moving about and being overly photogenic". mark francombe wrote: > Seeing as we´re all wallowing in Nostalgia... > > http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 12:15:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47B191834B8; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aUxNW7WIWyEx6Nck5duZdAo2FpNVGe8TQSaimSYO8Qs=; b=mbQgTW/3bQWkhOFqW+tkWBigSmcJQosDzUCa/BqGzBWA+i1guSqaQMOJMR9kZ6ZrBl 0TvqEADgWh3pxOTQ9iw06t/zXnhplZq0qhhI7G5mt3E715KJcuMGE1h+eom7AGJJCjG0 QXIK9noPZbegoxXcgpaPWE1REt/cQcVDSQBys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kw7SPeDccznRis6ItrhNnwELKWipPlHMSQsA0d+6WfESEnBFRyldpIg/jsKW3flxMw keFbZ1V3ycHQt/4zlgLpC3WOmMOgo6RTsa3r/FYOTHU4ybZErINfnVz33I3Br7guHUTj y4/k+MjVUeLIfvp7s1D75imoyEU2kgLA+201Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:14:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Who is a Meta Instrumentalist? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Are you a "meta instrumentalist"? What to do when the Softstep flopped and the Gordius Mac editor is due next century? While I'm dreaming about dual X/Y lazer control grids in the air this guy, Onyx Ashanti, gets his hands dirty building himself a kind of controller suite based on an electronics helmet, gaffered-on TouchOSC iPhones and a lappy doing PD. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/onyx-wants-to-make-himself-into-helme= ted-wearable-music-tech-tron-with-your-help/ Stelarc was pioneering this connecting electronics to bodily functions. Today he is known for "growing a third ear on his left forearm" (!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc I visited a Stelarc gig once but didn't find it to be much about music. Follower Onyx seems to apply similar ideas with a more musical approach. He describes his goal as "to create the most amazing live music performance system ever=E2=80=9D. One has to also mention Jamie Lidell here. Dusting off those old soul poses in a mesmerizing way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXkuiWgPzQwg It is fun to see new meta instrument approaches people come up with. Hopefully they are based on visions of a new music... ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 13:19:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0251834C0; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <201102191328750.SM00612@ELUK1> Message-ID: <7AD86B66678D4F86B6344CE05313A90E@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Before we Looped Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:36:58 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01CBD031.B3401F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01CBD031.B3401F50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0049_01CBD031.B3401F50" ------=_NextPart_001_0049_01CBD031.B3401F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFMust=E2=80=99a got the chicks there, eh?=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: RE: Before we Looped I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't = loop onstage with it much yet.=20 Here is some bootleg footage of our band in '91 at Spring Break in = Atlanta.=20 Randy Duke: Bass Mike Geeslin: Drums Me: Guitar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs Jeff ------=_NextPart_001_0049_01CBD031.B3401F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Must=E2=80=99a got the chicks there, eh?
 
From: Jeff Duke
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: Before we Looped
 
I=20 actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't = loop=20 onstage with it much yet.
Here is some bootleg footage of our band = in '91 at=20 Spring Break in Atlanta.

Randy Duke: Bass
Mike Geeslin: = Drums
Me:=20 Guitar

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs

Jeff

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many thanks

sim

ps - just trie= d widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds with a slow attack, at a= ny rate, but i can't afford it at the moment)

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Mose= r <sinsofma= chaut@gmail.com> wrote:
I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=3D>midi plugin i= n
bidule...under "Groups" =3D> "Hansje" =3D> "= guitar-to-midi-too" has worked
pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through
--00151750daecb795fe049ca2f186-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 14:41:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C23D183462; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VXDlvUuP4f6h+lhp4hpKrScvbE6XKMjMUJDhkGuEo7M=; b=JG/67UPNihy1oywoxrBE+suDeoX1L5X+Pmr2ksOp39pVboVpo/MvSeN+plFYqws6VH qg6sy9yzPtITBNTd9+b5805O44nspLpCikphMVOCgnIy8FQmlkNBn3Eu1+fs3pha9bSs XfLfy4RrGTMNXs6obKBmNQJOS4+Ld0Vrlvn44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KEd3qg9+g3snZWuRCSAlG481RNeeA+2WHmdC/n8UlnUr9zxCmNdtsN2/LANrlQTP9x zJCdHYUNX65fnV+MRz/fzoW3nBxd6iHY3cLWcfl9RzGeGvWv0kJzMBOkRNeqWq3yDnnt cKflRkvXSQHIhJRWHlfxPSxPDR4G1O1WWNIgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 07:41:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sim! Yeah, that was my problem when I saw widi, too... I'll track down the plug-in group...honestly don't remember where I found it and worse, I have different groups on different machines! Watch this space, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > dennis - i'd love to try this, but i don't see it in my groups list and i > can't find it on the forum! any chance you could email it to me, or point me > to a link? > > many thanks > > sim > > ps - just tried widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds with a slow > attack, at any rate, but i can't afford it at the moment) > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: >> >> I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=>midi plugin in >> bidule...under "Groups" => "Hansje" => "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked >> pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 14:50:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9620183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2AAjzzdwZ1kLK0HdAGfasZ6IxrJ/ISonDvJJyiivCbE=; b=sGvpAapHV7EvN0XrFQVxpTjL7W7/4VF/PI1uxtLy560Ar+QvPo5oBNyRNuE28MRQNN wjPDF079Gh44JiDqjcA1Gmin1eysEbZk6oYfudpchgH9vAsb1PzurH8DBcfa0DmPCTgH Sv3TsBeIqma9YW/qHVk62h1+70ElLy7OYzZWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eq9bjs5WpYBL1V0KaVyu6d5zhzyi/QElKCUwva+wQeGKXKNWRAV1jRf/Tt4EZ63b23 1fK9QMD6FMgc5m4dG6UO90luVRGxLESUt4oxW2AHzaYF1367NrR0WKMMPhVxHlgpUmWm PmEumlCx75chAuTsn908BrJ+szpQwJPpGkYDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I found it in the group manager. Just click on Group manager from the Tools menu and click on get remote catalogue. Select the guitar-to-midi-too group from the remote list and click download. Sylvain On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Hey Sim! > > Yeah, that was my problem when I saw widi, too... > > I'll track down the plug-in group...honestly don't remember where I > found it and worse, I have different groups on different machines! > > Watch this space, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: >> dennis - i'd love to try this, but i don't see it in my groups list and i >> can't find it on the forum! any chance you could email it to me, or point me >> to a link? >> >> many thanks >> >> sim >> >> ps - just tried widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds with a slow >> attack, at any rate, but i can't afford it at the moment) >> >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Moser >> wrote: >>> >>> I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=>midi plugin in >>> bidule...under "Groups" => "Hansje" => "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked >>> pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 14:55:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65106183473; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dkwrkABQRKEapTo9m35LYsaeLTw1qG+D15M6e5/w45Y=; b=tzWgayoz8DlW8oNfcBr2XOZz4XBNMlt8NLZsPvlxzeJKckivdi3r/Y1+NkYH1x/rYS pg7rEv0kgH5pKDWnvaIEK3dx3CFResz46Dh7TGbJ+ERH1+9NIDoLJ4Xc28ILnO5YnZ6h iLZHTQRfDtuI5XYHh9RPQMSH5h15mMuc4L6Fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ElcfbAW9oZQDdiMBfznlITro5DzaLXyBuNR6jy8t6MQRBOK4VBasFQICHmg1f97rsu uJxBJITuqQz/DX4feGyvN4FpnFekeq4fYn284qecZ4wjzDMRvKMmNzN9lR+Rb8xPI4FU L9NujUFRPFlPDWLX6fmqbITvJocFh5ey6Nclw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Who is a Meta Instrumentalist? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I can really get behind what this guy is trying to do. I contributed to his funding drive as soon as I found out about it and I look forward to getting my pdf with all his project notes! Sylvain On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Are you a "meta instrumentalist"? > > What to do when the Softstep flopped and the Gordius Mac editor is due > next century? While I'm dreaming about dual X/Y lazer control grids in > the air this guy, Onyx Ashanti, gets his hands dirty building himself > a kind of controller suite based on an electronics helmet, gaffered-on > TouchOSC iPhones and a lappy doing PD. > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/onyx-wants-to-make-himself-into-hel= meted-wearable-music-tech-tron-with-your-help/ > > Stelarc was pioneering this connecting electronics to bodily > functions. Today he is known for "growing a third ear on his left > forearm" (!) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelarc > I visited a Stelarc gig once but didn't find it to be much about > music. Follower Onyx seems to apply similar ideas with a more musical > approach. He describes his goal as "to create the most amazing live > music performance system ever=94. > > One has to also mention Jamie Lidell here. Dusting off those old soul > poses in a mesmerizing way. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXkuiWgPzQwg > > It is fun to see new meta instrument approaches people come up with. > Hopefully they are based on visions of a new music... ;-)) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 14:59:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFBB7183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dSdg2BLbWbckaPVNgvGDh2OYjnC+5SDc8jJ9+S5YDDo=; b=uGQx7yfYSOksrej7uu7IIh3QdFaMDS72y9G+yW0LI0+JSyMciGDvQf0t4EAJpvXiY3 iH8XJyXc5Fq/fXmYCtVanhCTihKsr9MHrx08UYmPK1XOZqpptRIeQyprTwSPFAbQ62I6 UxEjxt5XQ1zbnPTvoBqiXO4WJ07SDQhU+K3Ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hx77kyo1/4unbdD99ilKa8SBF/q3uLS70ciiPv5M6G4dyJi9JFyJS/XjS6QDephsW3 H43jiZDnQIy1VB/sTb954KDVrki8T5kavibxRYQ4PNNOZ2s+A3waOyosLgNZNjQz02IA MyU+tZQ2fmouTwxPI764UiT2PO6RW/zz43cUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:59:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd480342ea821049ca3e112 Resent-Message-ID: <6diQTB.A.PY.br9XNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:59:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd480342ea821049ca3e112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 cool, thanks! On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > I found it in the group manager. > > Just click on Group manager from the Tools menu and click on get > remote catalogue. Select the guitar-to-midi-too group from the remote > list and click download. > > Sylvain > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Hey Sim! > > > > Yeah, that was my problem when I saw widi, too... > > > > I'll track down the plug-in group...honestly don't remember where I > > found it and worse, I have different groups on different machines! > > > > Watch this space, > > > > Dennis > > > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Simeon Harris > > wrote: > >> dennis - i'd love to try this, but i don't see it in my groups list and > i > >> can't find it on the forum! any chance you could email it to me, or > point me > >> to a link? > >> > >> many thanks > >> > >> sim > >> > >> ps - just tried widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds with a > slow > >> attack, at any rate, but i can't afford it at the moment) > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Moser > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=>midi plugin in > >>> bidule...under "Groups" => "Hansje" => "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked > >>> pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through > >> > > > > > > --000e0cd480342ea821049ca3e112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cool, thanks!

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:5= 0 PM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I found it in the group manager.

Just click on Group manager from the Tools menu and click on get
remote catalogue. =A0Select the guitar-to-midi-too group from the remote list and click download.

Sylvain

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Sim!
>
> Yeah, that was my problem when I saw widi, too...
>
> I'll track down the plug-in group...honestly don't remember wh= ere I
> found it and worse, I have different groups on different machines!
>
> Watch this space,
>
> Dennis
>
> http://sou= ndcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozolof= t.com
> http://u= srslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Simeon Harris
> <simeonharris40@go= oglemail.com> wrote:
>> dennis - i'd love to try this, but i don't see it in my gr= oups list and i
>> can't find it on the forum! any chance you could email it to m= e, or point me
>> to a link?
>>
>> many thanks
>>
>> sim
>>
>> ps - just tried widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds w= ith a slow
>> attack, at any rate, but i can't afford it at the moment)
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=3D>= midi plugin in
>>> bidule...under "Groups" =3D> "Hansje" = =3D> "guitar-to-midi-too" has worked
>>> pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through
>>
>
>


--000e0cd480342ea821049ca3e112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 15:00:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E233183465; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A0Lq4xEUff2Edrhr5yGI1oI9bwmlGCaRRfBNBSKB6F4=; b=J/c6YRTn948LB69aYRJqltj5eC0sZf52hi/DisrWOZ0gp1M+12XAS8F+cASPh0Q+0p i+ZWvGADOsCpZ6Z4/pgRDwHM3vDrAtfGuycvoLjJij/hE+3QvvG63WvOS2sNlRcbI1El B9E8yHgzIYw7GuYWVlHHuktcElZB+Vsw3UIJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vmcaYlohlkreCSl0WJvkooChgi55dUYXJbVsbHpM57+QnOEVFuuCZY6GXPy3BnN8Hb 7C/5fu0qQDBXuNZxoEi0ThBx5VLqfLys3g/SPXH3BxmD0roxvO6aNFpomFbwwRhxt0tE w/oRWaLAZmiMYoWdVg/xa8K8dGJz4C/r/6u5w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Sylvain Poitras , simeonharris40@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7-BBAB.A.ec.zr9XNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain, Sim, et alia, Yep! I had totally forgotten about using the Remote Catalog group manager...it is, in fact a VERY handy little thing about bidule (you just have to REMEMBER to use it from time to time!) A couple of additional references about the Hansje guitar-to-midi-too group= : http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3D221836 (it was originally created to use with a Game of Life app that was created for bidule!) http://way.net/bidule/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=3D2 (the bidule wiki, pretty handy, too!) Plogue bidule forum comments: http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3D7&t=3D5023 http://way.net/waymusic/?p=3D284 A bit more... Best to all, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > I found it in the group manager. > > Just click on Group manager from the Tools menu and click on get > remote catalogue. =A0Select the guitar-to-midi-too group from the remote > list and click download. > > Sylvain > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dennis Moser w= rote: >> Hey Sim! >> >> Yeah, that was my problem when I saw widi, too... >> >> I'll track down the plug-in group...honestly don't remember where I >> found it and worse, I have different groups on different machines! >> >> Watch this space, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >>> dennis - i'd love to try this, but i don't see it in my groups list and= i >>> can't find it on the forum! any chance you could email it to me, or poi= nt me >>> to a link? >>> >>> many thanks >>> >>> sim >>> >>> ps - just tried widi and it seems to work quite well (for sounds with a= slow >>> attack, at any rate, but i can't afford it at the moment) >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dennis Moser >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've actually had good luck with the existing audio=3D>midi plugin in >>>> bidule...under "Groups" =3D> "Hansje" =3D> "guitar-to-midi-too" has wo= rked >>>> pretty consistently for all kinds of audio going through >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 15:38:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 158E5183464; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 907 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:38:18 UTC Message-ID: <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:23:12 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Dave Draper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Total Improv References: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1204 [1435/3452] X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: <9o4n9B.A.FOB.qP-XNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Well I guess I started improvising before I got into looping, but the two certainly go together well. I got into looping because of my love of Congolese pop music - 70s soukous, those sparkling guitars - & a 4-second delay pedal (Arion DDS-4) gave me an alter-ego to develop funky riffs with. Mind you, before that I'd been messing with a couple of reel to reel tape recorders, magnetic pick-ups, electric fires, hacksaw blades (& the occasional guitar!), so there's history there. The advent of digital looping technology made it possible to do all that sound-on-sound stuff live, at the London Musicians' Collective, short-lived clubs in back rooms of pubs, occasionally in concert halls, on tour, but always completely, 100%, improvised. Yep, starting a set with absolutely no preparation whatsoever is the preferred route for me. Once, at Hugh Metcalf's Klinker club, a music therapist approached me after a set that had admittedly completely got out of my control in a sort of 'noise/chaos' way, and asked me what traumatic episode in my childhood had caused me to create such painful music? She said she hadn't heard anything so distressing since Lutoslawski! I took this as a compliment! I should add that I also enjoy listening to 'total improv'. For me, the process is often as interesting as the result. It doesn't 'work' every time, maybe, but I'd rather hear musicians taking risks & it not always happening, than just playing safely b& predictably. There's enough of that around. A musician once said to me after a rather free, improvised, definitely not jazz, piece at a Bimhuis 'jam session': "When you're a sailor, you have to go with the wind." I couldn't have put it more eloquently. Dave ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3452 - Release Date: 02/18/11 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 16:06:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F322183462; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HwgzmR71LusA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3OMzQ-2_AAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=_PBJaVIIalaReEA5_uwA:9 a=oc34PRZS20BpzFkqUTo6l9PKXX0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 Message-Id: <63947C9D-800E-4B4A-B721-438F63902F29@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:06:50 -0800 References: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Matt, Listening now - downloaded it last evening, but couldn't listen then. So far, it is pleasant enough . . . but nothing especially ground- breaking. I really enjoy RH, and bought everything from "OK Computer" onward. I'll post when I've heard the rest and can simmer in thought for an opinion for a while. I'd especially like to listen with headphones (since there are no liner notes or lyrics with an MP3 download). Onward and upward. TRK On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Lots of loops and interesting production. What do you think? > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 16:28:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78068183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Cpc9BcVXOvfAWMg3U00NEVIw79tmLxRyX61QF6li4M=; b=lg+SPyftx6NJhSCIrENMG7U14mMKjUUZ8rIOVRmpAdyYVj2ixn5KEpQa+QDCQzC9Eh UOuUfiYPvshy4o8AcLXMQMMU46dr6GQlVHrI/zja2pDLXJ0MZPHBv4EDzamB92MhmgIY +VNRxAFGgvENiWEq2dxKVqGXrDruFIolsfVpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bWek/+4UnABuzlZj9kRnXJRucyqWHeIQV8GDLNsgrDmzOsuhj/c6pJ2MGpViISjIcp RWnF2kxlHfuIMNArcdq2kblCI3Jqy3mDc2HWMHWQe5Dce7Lc9ZR/hTAiggY+NK29h0rq t39hhFAmK+1N4EJJGh4ltbu2cIEcTx5V9Z3Gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> References: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Since the inception of Chinapainting in 2006 everything I've done both in the days of this band and my solo work and other projects, has been complete improv with the exception of some recent vocal arrangements I,ve been doing.. I began trying to finish some work last summer on 'writing down' some solo guitar pieces for a Mel Bay project and it just feels really painful to write down again but at some point I need to return to some of that. Point is I've been enjoying pretty much being total in improv land. J On 2/19/11, Dave Draper wrote: > Well I guess I started improvising before I got into looping, but the > two certainly go together well. > I got into looping because of my love of Congolese pop music - 70s > soukous, those sparkling guitars - & a 4-second delay pedal (Arion > DDS-4) gave me an alter-ego to develop funky riffs with. > Mind you, before that I'd been messing with a couple of reel to reel > tape recorders, magnetic pick-ups, electric fires, hacksaw blades (& the > occasional guitar!), so there's history there. The advent of digital > looping technology made it possible to do all that sound-on-sound stuff > live, at the London Musicians' Collective, short-lived clubs in back > rooms of pubs, occasionally in concert halls, on tour, but always > completely, 100%, improvised. > Yep, starting a set with absolutely no preparation whatsoever is the > preferred route for me. Once, at Hugh Metcalf's Klinker club, a music > therapist approached me after a set that had admittedly completely got > out of my control in a sort of 'noise/chaos' way, and asked me what > traumatic episode in my childhood had caused me to create such painful > music? She said she hadn't heard anything so distressing since > Lutoslawski! I took this as a compliment! > I should add that I also enjoy listening to 'total improv'. For me, the > process is often as interesting as the result. It doesn't 'work' every > time, maybe, but I'd rather hear musicians taking risks & it not always > happening, than just playing safely b& predictably. There's enough of > that around. A musician once said to me after a rather free, improvised, > definitely not jazz, piece at a Bimhuis 'jam session': "When you're a > sailor, you have to go with the wind." > I couldn't have put it more eloquently. > Dave > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3452 - Release Date: 02/18/11 > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 16:43:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 397F7183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 378981.55926.bm@omp1017.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=yLnjhyQN0z9x1T855ZRi0MH4bQVVs6aPn0dvG8KMuRxKVCtFdlZi73Q6BYkMC5areJrg8qCSWTOR3hPk1sMHhxJnRLgGUoYop9lP890Fu0KAfDMC4bmPmyionjhRrvKHBcnOgU+Y89PvlLc2mjRFt5X7r/XColqQl4Th1HV7Dpw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298133790; bh=ec941UgLKuOziJ1J1sy9vdok5DVSsaSPraCpUpZwUkQ=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=o+nSYoeX0fiXScFEzyXFycMQhjBUU9BHEDJ6p5SEV7sQhIozfHp+VQr16opkOpt85cyxXG63Qe+ho5yVCbf4aAmmROjpD5atXNiB/EZdY3cGyqR0/Nw8ZAAQB6c1TnyqirgrZyENQr8oFLTNvmyzyysA+AOKxozD4mZOv1T3opE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: M25oKFsVM1lTDeU7zYwn5FepICfr_vqIqeIl0b.Dab5AIjG mSamQioFClFpBYBrsq3a7mrAPvolrKEB5Hz_2OhKLSUPJymE7A84TRk_xcp3 GhofUEujuo_LrVTYYL0z1Aw0BTrYmnLwHCOM6AirFNtY_kz1wIYeGYppAG3k vme1hleH4uUq8HjtL8rVqUZ4nUlC9dfHLvjMR.LNNAdgErooloOK8MZf7oPV XjBy.7NnziFNJVQOpEKlikzafZWNARifPqhibBYvCveMWHP0p15rp5tkPIO9 HV0mH_AzV X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <63947C9D-800E-4B4A-B721-438F63902F29@charter.net> References: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> <63947C9D-800E-4B4A-B721-438F63902F29@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--148480068 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:43:03 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:43:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--148480068 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Its a great headphone album - lots of echo used for spatial effects. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 19 Feb 2011, at 16:06, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Matt, > > Listening now - downloaded it last evening, but couldn't listen then. > > So far, it is pleasant enough . . . but nothing especially ground-=20 > breaking. > > I really enjoy RH, and bought everything from "OK Computer" onward. > > I'll post when I've heard the rest and can simmer in thought for an =20= > opinion for a while. > > I'd especially like to listen with headphones (since there are no =20 > liner notes or lyrics with an MP3 download). > > Onward and upward. > > TRK > > On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > >> Lots of loops and interesting production. What do you think? >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-8--148480068 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its a great headphone album - lots of echo used for spatial = effects. 

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 19 Feb 2011, = at 16:06, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Matt,

Listening now - downloaded it = last evening, but couldn't listen then.

So far, it is = pleasant enough . . . but nothing especially ground-breaking.

I really = enjoy RH, and bought everything from "OK Computer" onward.

I'll = post when I've heard the rest and can simmer in thought for an opinion = for a while.

I'd especially like to listen with headphones (since = there are no liner notes or lyrics with an MP3 download).

Onward = and upward.

TRK

On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:49 PM, = Matt Stevens wrote:
Lots of loops = and interesting production. What do you think?

Matt = Stevens






= --Apple-Mail-8--148480068-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 17:03:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 759D7183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=tce9Yntt4j9vz09sMsLRExpnwZnXn0vHt9pbWdHfZnw=; b=AzDe2v5Yh6UesGbV8hJAkYd0h+ux8PtdAcQ9b4KFFXpIr7psBbdcM7T7nW6L8y+gwF eC8SC5E7XnWaTgJ5XBzd5amnpZliaqQLDpw+UriZXiyL4a0embsxRrb4ArxhKkN/sHVe +FjGK0L7slBDHCZZ0YM9iVhw9kTI8ORKjn+qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=M7XBDVA2ne7GbQX7TIzA+3V1z9XTyvBHZrxMqWLOUAT78+sSfGcc2bn7LGuqpmFDAK MYcNc1m72p6nS3Og2U4IAwP7XwvbKirGOcNlS1UFovf4JoCGjcDeArvHpMhkERtetxQv qSDQOc0VugRLRr2XU6Lagvbec9RhTGP1vldzY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Total Improv From: Matthias Grob In-Reply-To: <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:02:55 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7E5CB122-F9CE-464F-A684-EC95591C9C9E@gmail.com> References: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> To: Loop List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Alexandre Menestrel, a brasilian friend of mine who is a samba composer = but loves to improvise with me on two acoustic guitars (which means to = abandon predictable patterns but stay in some harmonic relationships and = similarities) puts it as: " its like driving down the hill on a bike with broken breaks " now that I type it, it reminds me of Kim... On 19 Feb 2011, at 12:23, Dave Draper wrote: > A musician once said to me after a rather free, improvised, definitely = not jazz, piece at a Bimhuis 'jam session': "When you're a sailor, you = have to go with the wind." > I couldn't have put it more eloquently. > Dave >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 17:14:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE27D183460; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 295859397/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgCAJ6JX00+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmB28SIxIhV4EjBODLw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,192,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="295859397" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:13:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: resistors for edp pedal? Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D5FFA2C.28396.16BAB6D@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110219-0, 19/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Can anyone out there sell me a set of resistors to build a pedal for my edp? Of course, I can order through the internet, but thought some of you may do this for a living and could use a small order. I'm in the UK.... You can see my live debut of the EDP here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zWSorBx9SQ All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 17:15:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48D9F183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dP63bZI85IzlOV8c4rumaJXpMeahrvoiWOVWPsa31zA=; b=PgvD0Fc6Axp8nnPPVBA7bUwPYfT2f4mXlW5moSupg1lw6udw6G9ufsZ1TMHlHU3IFW 1IcgNFyKANw2b4ffAFpIvafZ6CW9F9+0XRlup//HK5EJ8Sp2MsaKsm00RpYnbrLu9HOo SznThXOk1OQx2yM9t94T2iSKENqSChiOwslcU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GbaOxv/6iR9lH/vorAyRIEyzdbwNjV03KEWL3f/8OifqGeW9VZqPCSVtIsk38qn5on ScjAb0ucGlZG8nsYa8td0kSp9MxtQnsYpc8tq7/qg5DwHHrYWyLffuNZIMFVuo8PRKPt /UAzJoqPIYfMxn6XLOQONm44fCcl3MvzcQjEY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:15:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:15:14 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Plogue bidule Good to hear Fro got the audio2midi conversion going over there. Myself I lack the CPU recourses for running my fav synth Alchemy together with the three parallel audio lines for looping. So I'm sticking with audio only until the blessed super lappies from the future arrive. I've been setting up the same performance environment in Live, Logic and Mainstage and right now the time has come for me to close the circle and use Bidule again, as Bidule was where I started developing the virtual rig. It's funny how a virtual rig actually consists of only a bunch of ideas of how to connect certain processes, EQ and compressing. I'm noticing Bidule is a lot more powerful now compared to five years ago. But of course those good changes have to also be credited OS X development and upgrades of specific plugins used. Back in 2005 Bidule ran better on a Windows XP but right now this OS X box seems fine, so far. Pristine clean audio. A key technique I use is to reverse a CC# input stream in order to use the same expression pedal to tweak multiple plugins in one go, and I had forgot how to do that in Bidule. Just found out now (cable "CC Iniverter" into "CC To Params" and then set up the binding in the global Parameters window). Awesome! Got the custom made freezeverb going now ;-)) Guitar/Stick dist is a challenge though. The raw synth tone of Oomingmak (Expert Sleepers) is great for bass strings and the Decapitator (SoundToys) is nice for warming up high steel strings. Still looking, not having the great fuzz box simulators of Mainstage in Bidule. Plan B, if I find nothing less CPU intensive, is to patch in IK Multimedia's Amplitube3. Looking for plugins for: 1. Fuzz 2. Ringmodulator (got Hematohm, but compared to Mainstage's ringmod it is a bit fad. Want something bell-ish) 3. "Chuck-a-Wha", envelope filter. Ideas, suggestions? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 18:14:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47995183460; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GSsV5bQgazUGmSQiCMrQUxtuORzcrzOnf5GfIfEk0hU=; b=xo0AgY2/a4pfUI7tIkHyxJiqIkJtWLN2k81no9zmaroMSICFGbwOar3RD6HicoppYm yf7Z+6RtvR/CxFwK2bdiooDHM/HNI33POAoED1i/SlBeVCK4XuIvJTMxnjCBjs+Z1DRd 2AJIMc0geLlPvFBfO0nc1qttb/VkHLqXDz5LQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Bosffl801zmjJ1/s7HyJBEuaOgSrLwIJWl9eiKLWIN1qDAw10zZ9FJA2bHIRYA/dtd 21WXI+WFB8igQv2lsiF8XTO+XDNyaSGIPns9NLQ2BIr2Iwy+ccMQ7D9MFaB5211WHF4V KbMKVIPYobFY8A52IsqMFrQe9jU0nq3EfzzYo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7E5CB122-F9CE-464F-A684-EC95591C9C9E@gmail.com> References: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> <7E5CB122-F9CE-464F-A684-EC95591C9C9E@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Total Improv To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2f7689df5049ca69940 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:14:20 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2f7689df5049ca69940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mattias Grob wrote: "now that I type it, it reminds me of Kim..." Ironic and sad indeed, Matthias. Even knowing him as little as I did, I still miss his presence on the planet. How much moreso might it be for you. Peace, man. Todd --20cf3054a2f7689df5049ca69940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mattias Grob wrote:

"now that I type it,= it reminds me of Kim..."


Ironic an= d sad indeed, Matthias. =A0Even knowing him as little as I did, I still mis= s his presence on the planet. =A0How much moreso might it be for you. =A0
Peace, man.=A0

Todd


--20cf3054a2f7689df5049ca69940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 18:24:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 768DA183459; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UctlvAAl7TLTu6SbnL4FKX77g5uwITeb8NGwD6uaNPw=; b=qby5GRhkmybhMRm7+PhltCwkFhFgnnmMIE//vn1nxwMB7u3aNW+U7XVjfuWymGBSf2 UXqdScQWHXvHUoVIkX+QBm76SwnC+9zbGYuDMK4M71jP35x5ICKpTRRFBqpTFHuAsvbu SX8ff5hjHJhUo1e/6wcaBYJAU7UHEMgTIv5Pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dNUZ4H1Ee/UwzzlWDcSUnKxQMi1hKZFQHwaquvpsTXqsBK8ybaqmt3IJV49FZxbtss +Y0pyrD7Wt7oS+iA72FRDzu/vxPh2e+i9bf5FWDoPcftqY/UeOL/YRNDhiwYNFR2yA1z 0r9tXou7bsoWVoEHxebrGB7qidStxSXrOh3T8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:24:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d54058ea6a049ca6bd93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:24:24 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d54058ea6a049ca6bd93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website though, you? http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx 2011/2/19 Per Boysen > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dennis Moser > wrote: > > Plogue bidule > > > Good to hear Fro got the audio2midi conversion going over there. > Myself I lack the CPU recourses for running my fav synth Alchemy > together with the three parallel audio lines for looping. So I'm > sticking with audio only until the blessed super lappies from the > future arrive. I've been setting up the same performance environment > in Live, Logic and Mainstage and right now the time has come for me to > close the circle and use Bidule again, as Bidule was where I started > developing the virtual rig. It's funny how a virtual rig actually > consists of only a bunch of ideas of how to connect certain processes, > EQ and compressing. > > I'm noticing Bidule is a lot more powerful now compared to five years > ago. But of course those good changes have to also be credited OS X > development and upgrades of specific plugins used. Back in 2005 Bidule > ran better on a Windows XP but right now this OS X box seems fine, so > far. Pristine clean audio. > > A key technique I use is to reverse a CC# input stream in order to use > the same expression pedal to tweak multiple plugins in one go, and I > had forgot how to do that in Bidule. Just found out now (cable "CC > Iniverter" into "CC To Params" and then set up the binding in the > global Parameters window). Awesome! Got the custom made freezeverb > going now ;-)) Guitar/Stick dist is a challenge though. The raw synth > tone of Oomingmak (Expert Sleepers) is great for bass strings and the > Decapitator (SoundToys) is nice for warming up high steel strings. > Still looking, not having the great fuzz box simulators of Mainstage > in Bidule. Plan B, if I find nothing less CPU intensive, is to patch > in IK Multimedia's Amplitube3. > > Looking for plugins for: > 1. Fuzz > 2. Ringmodulator (got Hematohm, but compared to Mainstage's ringmod it > is a bit fad. Want something bell-ish) > 3. "Chuck-a-Wha", envelope filter. > > Ideas, suggestions? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --00163646d54058ea6a049ca6bd93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website th= ough, you?

http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.asp= x


2011/2/19 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plogue bidule


Good to hear Fro got the audio2midi conversion going over there.
Myself I lack the CPU recourses for running my fav synth Alchemy
together with the three parallel audio lines for looping. So I'm
sticking with audio only until the blessed super lappies from the
future arrive. I've been setting up the same performance environment in Live, Logic and Mainstage and right now the time has come for me to
close the circle and use Bidule again, as Bidule was where I started
developing the virtual rig. It's funny how a virtual rig actually
consists of only a bunch of ideas of how to connect certain processes,
EQ and compressing.

I'm noticing Bidule is a lot more powerful now compared to five years ago. But of course those good changes have to also be credited OS X
development and upgrades of specific plugins used. Back in 2005 Bidule
ran better on a Windows XP but right now this OS X box seems fine, so
far. Pristine clean audio.

A key technique I use is to reverse a CC# input stream in order to use
the same expression pedal to tweak multiple plugins in one go, and I
had forgot how to do that in Bidule. Just found out now (cable "CC
Iniverter" into "CC To Params" and then set up the binding i= n the
global Parameters window). Awesome! Got the custom made freezeverb
going now ;-)) =A0Guitar/Stick dist is a challenge though. The raw synth tone of Oomingmak (Expert Sleepers) is great for bass strings and the
Decapitator (SoundToys) is nice for warming up high steel strings.
Still looking, not having the great fuzz box simulators of Mainstage
in Bidule. Plan B, if I find nothing less CPU intensive, is to patch
in IK Multimedia's Amplitube3.

Looking for plugins for:
1. Fuzz
2. Ringmodulator (got Hematohm, but compared to Mainstage's ringmod it<= br> is a bit fad. Want something bell-ish)
3. "Chuck-a-Wha", envelope filter.

Ideas, suggestions?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com = internet music hub




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--00163646d54058ea6a049ca6bd93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 18:37:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53241183460; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+HBsfQhFtGaT47UMJXf1njqYb1KIrJAkryn1EijwGVs=; b=FIC6llNiTWlKEinB3cFEz7tPZf4yKDginQzrXtxXudMTfENgjwWsmupk9XjkGM71xV cbcb3FOzHMO9OV6+SkySkse0V6M2HmmK98ZOfHY3J653YbmEkaGgkpaFL5IwsBVEX34f aVc0VPmpQea4RnMgqvPrtz/Eb/x/SXWH/IuHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TU/KjZT2tHieZIqf3BCqMvblgJV9MT80INDy4h3w3NmCpFVqiSOqlStmz383nMucIa AIVipu4zirfVJeINnGuvFV6mkrmnOz7D6JwtzT8Aqp5tfzERwx1L6uJed68PiYhpsaUC yrNBuHa59C8qT6PeK0WqMoNhqJNUkoXJ3rFnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:37:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8b88d83531049ca6eaf7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:37:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8b88d83531049ca6eaf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 working link, sorry... http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.aspx 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell > bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website > though, you? > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx > > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016363b8b88d83531049ca6eaf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable working link, sorry...

http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/fre= e-fuzz.aspx

2011/2/19 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website th= ough, you?

http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-bo= xes/stomp-ware.aspx


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--0016363b8b88d83531049ca6eaf7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 18:51:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 192BB183462; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tQhl8446XDCTHGJNaInQtixakT4tu4OP3QQDXY9vQis=; b=CoR/Z/e0obcJTPZ336EYtxVgpjWUgYKJIstjsvJB0V+mGr6sSOx5hdfC5uJqrx4p9J aGgSND+0XpHmYPWFDkQ25McHNiKZWMmqOaJmQKb/ot6jN1r+lOdX/yHOydU/mWnj4ICV LTzqTc+snE6kNL0o5S4DPkuB1B4f4IOAYNtug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wTGlL7K9FCyzjPQbE944V27jdpQtp9XTPVh2TYjQofvcUQgPV6iP9D6RoNevlqSMuS G4vQZg8gnmyUYKiQqFtIW5oA0v56tH8mjPQkHF+Wg2GVh0WYOS3Q7Rmaiappih5diKmr RYlyOf2fjYprvyGzcwqB3Ew2s6MIvLOrgvGvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D5FFA2C.28396.16BAB6D@nick.1957.me.uk> References: <4D5FFA2C.28396.16BAB6D@nick.1957.me.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:51:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: resistors for edp pedal? From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5afe948eac3049ca71ea9 Resent-Message-ID: <9oYtBB.A.A5F.xEBYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:51:29 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5afe948eac3049ca71ea9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nick, I took a hiatus from playing, back in the 80's and ran a machine shop for almost ten years (a bit odd, but that's another story). The best discovery I made in that period was the industrial supply chain. No more hardware stores, or Radio Shacks (whatever the UK equivalent), but trade suppliers who knew what they were selling, had advice and suggestions, 100 times the selection, and generally better prices. It's also nice to build a relationship with someone who knows about stuff you're interested in. If you are in or near a city of any significant size you'll find [XYZ] Electronics Supply in the phone directory, get all the stuff tomorrow and be wired up before you go to bed. You'll also find a selection of enclosures and switches, either in stock or through their catalogues that might save you from reinventing the wheel. my two cents, k On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: > Can anyone out there sell me a set of resistors to build a pedal for > my edp? Of course, I can order through the internet, but thought some > of you may do this for a living and could use a small order. > > I'm in the UK.... > --001636c5afe948eac3049ca71ea9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick, I took a hiatus from playing, back in the 80's and ran a machine = shop for almost ten years (a bit odd, but that's another story).
The= best discovery I made in that period was the industrial supply chain. No m= ore hardware stores, or Radio Shacks (whatever the UK equivalent), but trad= e suppliers who knew what they were selling, had advice and suggestions, 10= 0 times the selection, and generally better prices. It's also nice to b= uild a relationship with someone who knows about stuff you're intereste= d in.

If you are in or near a city of any significant size you'll find [X= YZ] Electronics Supply in the phone directory, get all the stuff tomorrow a= nd be wired up before you go to bed. You'll also find a selection of en= closures and switches, either in stock or through their catalogues that mig= ht save you from reinventing the wheel.

my two cents,
k

On Sat, Feb 19, 20= 11 at 10:13 AM, nick@12testing.net <nick@1957.me.uk<= /a>> wrote:
Can anyone out th= ere sell me a set of resistors to build a pedal for
my edp? Of course, I can order through the internet, but thought some
of you may do this for a living and could use a small order.

I'm in the UK....

--001636c5afe948eac3049ca71ea9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 19:40:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8FB1183462; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=WVXth05BnelYIlbGwtr50s4Qd/grezABeRZEM7CYGYw=; b=hIL5vGiEaaP0r2CvcBzeqeNtceQjd8voIy5W9RGc6iaiNHaC3BWaW8EhzlHbSca6OZ 66gugPYnV1MthMBs2ECK7hmllOjVYKFpaTJlbLCKT+BWrSD1+OpbIBuFzSKmEJnQDy6b E2X8yzsDQdUv0e0nrqwgbTHCS19kHEI5INioA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=EHrht2l9KAwSVUzApBLj1xhDu4IlKT1AgYEq0MwIuaZ/IatsIE4aAl5QGg9uUUa7VY LGMrcQzhwZde898siLGe/srPP6xglDWFCEUiPgLPV8gXADWJj3NdnjsS8bY+H/YxqJUv V4KZrSCZ8qHMwxaXEX2eSsmVEGMFsjHyNeUas= Message-Id: <4EEAE89D-3E8D-4FD3-9055-692F5CE3EA6C@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Total Improv Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:40:30 -0800 References: <2D811210-C26F-4009-AA2E-6A36A426C3CE@1800dialword.com> <4D5FE060.7010200@virgin.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Reggie Watts looping improv on Conan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz6d6ZS_r2w regards BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 19:50:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8773183461; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7B142AAE-F72C-43E2-8482-ECBA6B907911@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110219182426.6749E183462@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Total Improv Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:50:31 -0800 References: <20110219182426.6749E183462@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Regarding total improv, for live performance, I tend to travel the road of having a certain amount of pre planned strategies, and malleable composition forms that I'm constantly rearranging, though I'll have points in a set where I have no preconception of what I will play other than perhaps the knowledge that I'm using a particular looping technique, or a particular instrument or tuning. I've always approached improvisation from the mindset that I am trying to play thematically and compositionally, so there are some self imposed restrictions, but also room for complete catharsis:-). I'm definitely not the Eagles live :-) Bill I was just thinking about Kim this morning when I read your post Matthias ,feeling his absence,and feeling remiss as I haven't reached out to Violet since shortly after the Loopfest. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 19:57:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C28C9183460; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hyHK6r89lFjv7u0XsscVLPpf7ngBDUamV01uNoiPSv8=; b=HDA/jhlbxAXVmtLBCKZL0XzhTs18tp4bVaibt89PqsNQx7I+fTeuugsbDoSARlzJqh fKUt3CrNe2bJGKdtSArvmLciFqMGip5yIpUqgHkF3Ct27Fercr5WT9AaH7LgJR+pz1Fe EstRY+DeGp0exWbfarmxysPb1Ra1AB6UPBuHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rCu/C49Qkc2Dr6DaqySimLjWlfH69UuL8c/VKpFne0rGW6wrBiR4XL5hS36LWJbBOA bwVviXzTlVfBzn+j/6H/+2uPUXyTpXdXXdOzoItlxSY0WBPDbdRthQ8h+utkGriCV4eT teanfEZVMZ7SQHv1SFCPNntAvI/acssUMllEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:57:41 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: re: total improv From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ce061f5c75049ca80b82 Resent-Message-ID: <3RgGIB.A.u1H.3CCYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:57:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ce061f5c75049ca80b82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 for total improv w/ vocals-i know that i've read about some bands that people list on the gear page, that are jam bands that appear to do improv w/ loops and vocals, funny enough, most of the bands i've never heard of, there seems to be a whole subculture of jam bands that i'm really unaware of, probably never get to my neck of the woods i guess. most of the stuff i'm aware of is mostly instrumental (which is what i mostly listen too any more), various bands that david torn has worked w/ (his "Prezens" band most prominently, B.L.U.E., the cloud about mercury band, polytown, etc) most of these bands i assume most are familiar w/. and then as others have piped in, there are many on this list who have put out stuff that is mostly improv, good stuff, so check out stuff in peoples signature. the band that vernon reid is in: FreeFormFunkyFreqs is a total improv band, they have one album out which is very good, lots of youtube clips which sound nothing like the album which i think is good, they're just all over the place...henry kaiser has also done a # of improv things over the years, his Plane Crash album is good. looping improv is mostly how i work as well, ex's on my myspace page, & the 3 vids below are 3 li'l projects i did for our local Public Access tv, all are over a yr old, so for me it's funny to see some of the gear changes, and i know that i think i have 3 other episodes in the "can" but have been too lazy/busy to turn them in. the funny think in rewatching my old stuff, is i have definately have a "pattern", most of my clips are about 15 min of me working before i take a break (& stop filming or interrupted by kids!). the other thing i noticed was a pattern of work,usually always run through similar style things: noise loopings, ambient something, metal-y something, fahey-attempt of clean fingerpicked something...and as many stated, in the method of searching while improvising, at times can be good, at other times "less good" as they say, happy hunting, searching, fishing, looping, (my ex. below...), s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121#docid=5791548553161416906 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121# http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/28102613 --0016e644ce061f5c75049ca80b82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
for total improv w/ vocals-i know that i've read about some bands = that people list on the gear page, that are jam bands that appear to do imp= rov w/ loops and vocals,
funny enough, most of the bands i've never heard of, there seems t= o be a whole subculture of jam bands that i'm really unaware of, probab= ly never get to my neck of
the woods i guess. most of the stuff i'm aware of is mostly instru= mental (which is what i mostly listen too any more), various bands that dav= id torn has worked w/
(his "Prezens" band most prominently, B.L.U.E., the cloud ab= out mercury band, polytown, etc) most of these bands i assume most are fami= liar w/. and then as others
have piped in, there are many on this list who have put out stuff that= is mostly improv, good stuff, so check out stuff in peoples signature. the= band that
vernon reid is in: FreeFormFunkyFreqs is a total improv band, they hav= e one album out which is very good, lots of youtube clips which sound nothi= ng like the album
which i think is good, they're just all over the place...henry kai= ser has also done a # of improv things over the years, his Plane Crash albu= m is good.
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so for me it's funny to see some of the gear changes, and i know t= hat i think i have 3 other episodes in the "can" but have been to= o lazy/busy to turn them in. the funny
think in rewatching my old stuff, is i have definately have a "pa= ttern", most of my clips are about 15 min of me working before i take = a break (& stop filming or interrupted by
kids!). the other thing i noticed was a pattern of work,usually always= run through similar style things: noise loopings, ambient something, metal= -y something, fahey-attempt of
clean fingerpicked something...and as many stated, in the method of se= arching while improvising, at times can be good, at other times "less = good" as they say, happy
hunting, searching, fishing, looping, (my ex. below...), s---
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--0016e644ce061f5c75049ca80b82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 23:08:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBD05183462; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D604D6E.8010002@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:08:30 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Thought Radio Playlist for February 19, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:08:34 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2011/110219.html The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EST/GMT-5 on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #192 February 19, 2011. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Robert Schroeder Constellation Swan Cygnus-A (Spheric) Robert Schroeder Intestellar Quasars Cygnus-A (Spheric) VA [EKO] Intro Sequences No. 12 VA [Andy Pickford] Maelstrom Sequences No. 12 VA [Bill Nelson] Crimsworth Sequences No. 12 Nattefrost Destination Nowhere Transformation (Groove) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Rick Cutter Going Home First Melaholy, Then the Night Stretch (New Dude) Bill Leslie Lauren Marie Simple Beauty (none) Will Ackerman Anne's Song Pure (Windham Hill) Will Ackerman The Impending Death Pure (Windham Hill) Acoustic Ocean Place of Refuge Reflections On Still Water (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Oracle] Kings of the Future Dante's Paradiso (Musea) Past VA [Faveravola] Del Francescano Sole Dante's Paradiso (Musea) Unwritten Pages Flora & ... Noah (Progrock) Spock's Beard Edge of the In- X (none) Between Alan Morse Cold Fusion * Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill Fox ======================================================================== Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5. Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music. Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 19 23:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 117F0183463; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D4u5zfUP+959k2xhBeRwUpyeXCDzca7LmvpoBew/jSA=; b=d5DlLnNH6E4hmwTA5asgll9zskeopKRay9dPO2LUVqxBZq/pRkN6RaviAUkK44AtVA /stOqAYSawnsrDpXlzB4NVTt4rDm2nEhBrMWqI6a1M+Rd+WPdurPwMlBHowK4g417Dvt STX7fn+tIMSQMoFaVS8peKS2gTQgszxEYUqow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b7aXJy0bSiYPAOtsCJSpov38AcYwwjlyET3snxzUzqmEo0CrN9URtbx9vcXvUiQKIs 8DF7mNW6JLs7Ye4AqNWVUQTK7ZkoIR3xxIwsDfqRoUu1bN7gVg8tFudg9ybOMs9oI7/h hp32duBdZxFQxydROcS5E0TKfe25QGogAjDoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:58:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Great tip, Raul. But I can't find a download link on the page? Per (got the Big Muff & Octavia in hardware and looking for similar sounding plugins) On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > working link, sorry... > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.aspx > > 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell >> >> bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website >> though, you? >> >> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 00:48:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9A9A183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <20110219182426.6749E183462@arsenic.violacea.com> <7B142AAE-F72C-43E2-8482-ECBA6B907911@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Total Improv Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:48:13 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <7B142AAE-F72C-43E2-8482-ECBA6B907911@baymoon.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9EAEFCE4111A-1C34-5DBA7@webmail-stg-m04.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:48:26 +0000 (UTC) <> sez young bill i think of kim often also.....violet, i hope all is well with you, let us know what you're up to.....xoxoxoxo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 06:10:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11423183457; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fwQYvtrt/Z+iq/sgSJkkt/D6fUVc2Q4lt2aEgq/Cwo8=; b=LER63vs/Fk28CM/pBcBJmjWhY6e6zDV6r7/u6v/Dp2AoLDWgpa7SzIQLE6sFGavac4 AyEJ9f87FZr/T794nIJ393Ja43ZEq8v9W/wThtQv+g0iQIAmFrcUrnHOdcqD6D5abkEV lJi0P/C5ZL8VH91jVJ4t6EmzkKPmNhJtlj3Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E3lszJatXfCOadBSn+dAX86h9So/K/sT1D6OQya4+TYvCBKcRjhlTv7uRCF1K7+PfK VbKwbhbmfVMe+hrrDR+vF3n6VFnPgFHRyCVA5wsbW+h5aFFC2LhLa7urhLFCGd01vbLw CMbejCzGpQgKNs+QqfGM4AgkHFWa3lQpIPhmc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D5EC290.3030508@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:10:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6134aec60533049cb099b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:10:17 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6134aec60533049cb099b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, loved these two songs Mark! I'm embarrassed to admit I'd never heard the Cranes before. Lovely! Best music I've heard since Live Skull. I think it's aged really well, just great stuff. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Seeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia... > > http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba6134aec60533049cb099b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, loved these two songs Mark! I'm embarrassed to admit I'd never= heard the Cranes before. Lovely! Best music I've heard since Live Skul= l. I think it's aged really well, just great stuff.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
Seeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia...

http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNies= q5Q



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twitter @markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no



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simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/= artsimon
--90e6ba6134aec60533049cb099b7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 08:19:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDE03183460; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6wHLQrqNjXGedqGj9h9oJ3qLYJOWehQLxWiDxHagp9Q=; b=d5sbcD5YIvlXSZ7CX/7qoMJGwZd9ofS6jvfd/4WRAvOwlrD/lGmFgxlxylkesQx+hy S3lVlLHt8udrsf/ZgXYCT1mzi8/59HtO1nskDP6BYZE3XUSU0wXHadSXOD0bOm+uAvmx e1cieUYjTO82485fJUeCs/u9enjFwxva5JAls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Mp3x2PqYlMQgIot9hrdpOAtFSojYK3XiZhtKEXMHSi8A5ABH3foRJFaODK2N07jPN0 Bopedg2Ee4vN4cwlcoyVlT9wW9S7p/2VGv2i1PG9L/XL6d8qZ/MC8jLtSt6I5Itj5arO N3LS4kNZYDyjtJFubg8BWCvNEwHjq+hkUJQ80= References: <4D5EC290.3030508@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:19:36 +0100 Message-ID: <-5294909919657337294@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: Before we Looped To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8c44edb05e049cb2676e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:19:29 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e8c44edb05e049cb2676e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20 Feb 2011, at 07:10, Art Simon wrote: Wow, loved these two songs Mark! Thanks I'm embarrassed to admit I'd never heard the Cranes before. Don't be, its not like we were super huge... And it was 20 years ago (OMG) Lovely! Best music I've heard since Live Skull. Never checked them out, will do now... I think it's aged really well, Just like me then,,, ;) Mark On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Seeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia... > > http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba6e8c44edb05e049cb2676e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 20 Feb 2011, at 07:10, Art Simon = <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, loved these two songs Mark!

Th= anks

I'm embarrassed to admit I= 'd never heard the Cranes before.

Don't be, its not like we were super h= uge... And it was 20 years ago (OMG)

Lovely! Best music I've heard since Live Skull.

Never checked them out, will do now...

I think it's aged really well,

Just like me then,,, =A0;)

M= ark





On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Seeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia...

http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq= 5Q



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no




--
Art Simon
simart= @gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon
--90e6ba6e8c44edb05e049cb2676e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 10:13:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23F3F183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UhZmkcHxbkeQLzbBHKo8IVOGb2h5y6cR/LCU3Rw9CPw=; b=qf5TuriQ2MokBf1FeHTEiYYlaWVitrvFpH30Poaq5Ot5e3VUq3evi+avX1cSR/npTa r7RhW056R69SKOfJxFYLoeI1NVIuwuZkDp8At5JKtyLeSY+dPKwYeGWlI0WhnA5AZF+w BvAZ5nC7410R2MrrHG+khdTZVEjM2oM6rXVtw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gmKDyXUka2zVjNlPpftAvn9EbGrZWlwgpKIF+Di1VrFkeYgOoEWWLwNzMLx0daDrAn Q5l1k4Cy++fRTNB1Ye3ezEYdNXUJnTSFhkVOA9U5BODlVOson7eppbKH2Oxto6G1QYHS xmJJ4WmNgA1fYbnSqo2T4h/WhRe/2UHdS3NmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:12:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ac8bc400a2049cb3fd80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ac8bc400a2049cb3fd80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Me too, was wondering where's the dl link? 2011/2/20 Per Boysen > Great tip, Raul. But I can't find a download link on the page? > > Per > (got the Big Muff & Octavia in hardware and looking for similar > sounding plugins) > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > working link, sorry... > > > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.aspx > > > > 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell > >> > >> bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website > >> though, you? > >> > >> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx > >> > >> > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054ac8bc400a2049cb3fd80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too, was wondering where's the dl link?

2011/2/20 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Great tip, Raul. But I can't find a download link on the page?

Per
(got the Big Muff & Octavia in hardware and looking for similar
sounding plugins)


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> working link, sorry...
>
> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.= aspx
>
> 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell <rau= l.bonell@gmail.com>
>>
>> bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access w= ebsite
>> though, you?
>>
>> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp= -ware.aspx
>>
>>
>




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Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054ac8bc400a2049cb3fd80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 11:24:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FF44183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FnqTyGBnwPsh1wEuhdYuYFMteoJeAp4WFZfcuTfynYc=; b=OSIKDxiVAyYDHHyX9ylmzbZWvM6anxGi9ZqFvNaJOt6pV/rH5pLuSU6YPMCLE1PSi9 ANyi7q3JOwZHdSEreWz/ORSYxC/21S9nWtCYkamYBpBBkOTIJK8nsbMCiBmOmWaOLQ4n XpWRW+rfwKH+ArjtzeAtBOgrS2lHW+B5K2Sho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rs+gTsgwfHwDNiVoKSpH3DE5iSxPYpjtF8Cr/8lawuH2V8p/zj4tgsQPitd92tlzaG zAVQk5zjGytk7KS5wILuYOwrmqkyfIGnL3rmFYX6MdmwjRmTdhvXHtS9hVzXk16Hd8FC 2kRDAMCprktcMW0F2VlDRumoyAGF2LT3x+Mo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:24:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio to midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <-qTajB.A.NYD.8nPYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:24:44 +0000 (UTC) I'm going with Oomingmac now, even for the guitar side. Per On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > Me too, was wondering where's the dl link? > > 2011/2/20 Per Boysen >> >> Great tip, Raul. But I can't find a download link on the page? >> >> Per >> (got the Big Muff & Octavia in hardware and looking for similar >> sounding plugins) >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Raul Bonell >> wrote: >> > working link, sorry... >> > >> > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.aspx >> > >> > 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell >> >> >> >> bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website >> >> though, you? >> >> >> >> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 11:31:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 435A9183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: How to test midi References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 06:30:54 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thread-topic: How to test midi MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) thread-index: AcvQ8bgOMtXG9T3uSy+IpvXChgNatA== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2011 11:31:31.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[B901CDB0:01CBD0F1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands are c= oming out a midi pipe? Cant seem to get my LP1 to send midi stop/start anym= ore and wondering what I could plug into to see what or what aint coming out= the pipe. Ideas? Andy o On Feb 20, 2011, at 6:24 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > I'm going with Oomingmac now, even for the guitar side. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrot= e: >> Me too, was wondering where's the dl link? >>=20 >> 2011/2/20 Per Boysen >>>=20 >>> Great tip, Raul. But I can't find a download link on the page? >>>=20 >>> Per >>> (got the Big Muff & Octavia in hardware and looking for similar >>> sounding plugins) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Raul Bonell >>> wrote: >>>> working link, sorry... >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/free-fuzz.aspx >>>>=20 >>>> 2011/2/19 Raul Bonell >>>>>=20 >>>>> bbe gave their fuzz stombox plugin for free ... can't access website >>>>> though, you? >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp-boxes/stomp-ware.aspx >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Petri Lahtinen >> http://www.petrilahtinen.com >> http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ >> http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen >> http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen >> http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-= >> --------------------------------------------------- >> "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >>=20 >>=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 11:39:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1630183466; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mwxbrD7Tmf2UMH60taNDc6c3UBXmZQADtjapsOe7/GA=; b=lPR0+Bw9V2UD/aHURtopIknN1EkkXJrkp0axX7eTz/6QGtzx4oizrLjn9BeC7Da5Qx jN0Qe5PlwDnQzDCZtbem/lHXmsIwMCz0dOtpP8X4+FuxpgRYnwVkHUTLew9MAdZuWHTZ D7ag8T3vZeGRPRuZXpL/5n6eP+Sn/e6DxdAtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=u+1CvKOjMnPnuokJ8Mp2MqdrkbtHE+119J4GUzmeqcwED+zLfPDAMAc4MtZki17jhq a8/1B0pa5UsgSMDcb8oGpJ2jwOZ7IvgNrTg+3F109SPSeiv8Ml9dwqsSvjw8x3tVW3Wk 7MXwDW9cp4bMbWjNqbmLPeJAGR3Wblydum5bU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> References: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to test midi From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a9b20d2d01049cb532e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:39:11 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a9b20d2d01049cb532e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 software or hardware? if you're talking software and you're on a mac, then it's http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/ sim On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands are > coming out a midi pipe? Cant seem to get my LP1 to send midi stop/start > anymore and wondering what I could plug into to see what or what aint coming > out the pipe. Ideas? > > Andy o > > --000e0cd6a9b20d2d01049cb532e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable software or hardware? if you're talking software and you're on a ma= c, then it's http://www.= snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/

sim

On= Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:<= br>
Hey any of ya'= ;ll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands are coming out a = midi pipe? =A0Cant seem to get my LP1 to send midi stop/start anymore and w= ondering what I could plug into to see what or what aint coming out the pip= e. Ideas?

Andy o

--000e0cd6a9b20d2d01049cb532e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 11:45:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E63183463; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EdMUZQpO5/W8yjLBG8jNc9sEQLqAL/j14QRgbWQjluI=; b=jDRvMTf7ozES58bl+2hHFHunHiFrz1FjUOVPuJGwQJTCeuGbDqabdV4TJ0MpRu6h79 bvb/R+MAi0SNxw3TBqmuIxuRWyiVwinNm9zMBw5ErWfv3FJx4h8LK6ATlqwpHFiZT/es IxC3uc3cnowl9utMbDbfRm6bQ3o4mKl8NJi9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TpI2wsOS1rHMkRNDdNY9+rYkwe7sd+l6cunb/4qQKC8ycdlMhqYSmH54dHNW5zdndQ u4JZRun/DrBq1P4QekvlN2mTA9XnuOcB2SH0fcq+Hx/+DgyGvVpqA1W6SOOr9AYnN+ra ah7P62qntPmD4x+yrvNJDieqmgzDQWxq1DQjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> References: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to test midi From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3fd0c5b5b306049cb54355 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:45:07 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba3fd0c5b5b306049cb54355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Check the gear you are using. Most things that deal with MIDI has some kind of "MIDI Monitoring" functionality. My pedalboard has it and every software on the lappy has it. You just have to activate it in order to see it. There are also software utilities, as Simeon pointed out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands are > coming out a midi pipe? --90e6ba3fd0c5b5b306049cb54355 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check the gear you are using. Most things that deal with MIDI has some= kind of "MIDI Monitoring" functionality. My pedalboard has it an= d every software on the lappy has it. You just have to activate it in order= to see it.=C2=A0

There are also software utilities, as Simeon pointed ou= t.=C2=A0

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub=


On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Andy O= wens <andy@18= 00dialword.com> wrote:
Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands = are coming out a midi pipe?

--90e6ba3fd0c5b5b306049cb54355-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 12:53:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3AEB183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=nMXJcQstQoJzyVQzkfFfVzzjKNq89AiDs5wBVlm4kLY=; b=jigA7Uxh5+G5NTZmY5gZ4vEe3IiDlnreSjIWxX/r4LGCswVsBlGQF30OXNx3fzwqk4 xR1ONeV2v9Y04ca1adHVNpd3Uy7JACxVzbS7amP4q4WYT8W379k+Gg6qY++3CkESOjcu KCuBsApeLCTmbwKAKnftaXA1L5XL+HjyFj9Zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=b+jB5h+FIBWlB8I2iCaR/PNBmO9nWOoQagz2612yQT2EIzZFAs3CpnGvqXnp/3dM16 GQSwuXKRn/3DPtBl/GkAVDq2YtTRpzcrHaLOTDNzPGwdNgZwShSbOmeAKTI4sGIJpcHi 5CAH8jU16dy1JpC5nY6fMxY60pokyLNlV8tBw= Subject: OT: Midi linking inside Bidule: help needed From: Fabio_A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) Message-Id: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:52:31 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Sorry for the OT question, but I need to get ready asap with my work. Those are my connections: Kaoss Pad midi output > RME 400 audio interface, Input 1 Inside Bidule: RME400 midi input 1 > PC filter. Now If I press one of the eight buttons on my KP, I can see each is sending a= PC midi message inside bidule. Here, in bidule, I also have 4 audio players playing loops of different leng= ht in loop mode. Each of that player is connected to a stereo mixer. NOW, I want to mute a specific mixer track by pressing dedicated buttons of m= y KP, but I haven't found a way.... I have tried using midi learn and "parameters linking"..., but it definitive= ly doesn't work. I've also tried remapping PC in Note message and in CC....nothing ! It looks like bidule internal linking doesn't listen to that midi messages. Anyone tried that ?=20 Thanks -Fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 13:03:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7CAB183461; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GRc+ZVa/t3SrRu94HJQYZozzFVft+SrOJeSM2YIS8dE=; b=bhNxFFHtcShS1FXCnyegvvftqD9u0lYwyB3Ejak9BrBMNnUr39br6uqH/02VNoZl9j j759enZHAXpfBdb3IpRAdWM/OPbokNVVjWV/pUBCcTLSLorSCzbxl4VxM2xkSd1jla3Y 7TQCUfgXO1BPO66cC7ehvJsqMe7nIcB+doIwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=rkenhS2On1A4Fsdlifc1ne0POj61/A3IiFFYH3DBT4Gwbv3eWNOFZdHvkPr1YzgNKU RR1srR4V4G1RK3RhJ8whqKEkYOxJeNlTQ1/bUwcdKXkWWB93dk//YTfV6A3w12VHGF3o ooIpzOy//TNlXMEN5mxpgQpkjXqUCSF/Upzwg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:03:51 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Midi linking inside Bidule: help needed From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48034f9dc0b049cb66037 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:03:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48034f9dc0b049cb66037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i think to change "processing mode" for each of the audio file players, they need to receive a cc message, not a pc message. i use cc messages to bypass fx inside bidule using the midi learn feature and it works well. have you tried converting the pc messages to cc messages? (i've not tried this myself) sim On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Sorry for the OT question, but I need to get ready asap with my work. > > Those are my connections: > Kaoss Pad midi output > RME 400 audio interface, Input 1 > Inside Bidule: RME400 midi input 1 > PC filter. > Now If I press one of the eight buttons on my KP, I can see each is sending > a PC midi message inside bidule. > > Here, in bidule, I also have 4 audio players playing loops of different > lenght in loop mode. Each of that player is connected to a stereo mixer. > > NOW, I want to mute a specific mixer track by pressing dedicated buttons of > my KP, but I haven't found a way.... > > I have tried using midi learn and "parameters linking"..., but it > definitively doesn't work. > > I've also tried remapping PC in Note message and in CC....nothing ! > It looks like bidule internal linking doesn't listen to that midi messages. > > Anyone tried that ? > Thanks > > -Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > > > > --000e0cd48034f9dc0b049cb66037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think to change "processing mode" for each of the audio file pl= ayers, they need to receive a cc message, not a pc message. i use cc messag= es to bypass fx inside bidule using the midi learn feature and it works wel= l. have you tried converting the pc messages to cc messages? (i've not = tried this myself)

sim

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:52 PM,= Fabio_A <eter= ogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the OT question, but I need to get ready asap with my work.

Those are my connections:
Kaoss Pad midi output > RME 400 audio interface, Input 1
Inside Bidule: RME400 midi input 1 > PC filter.
Now If I press one of the eight buttons on my KP, I can see each is sending= a PC midi message inside bidule.

Here, in bidule, I also have 4 audio players playing loops of different len= ght in loop mode. Each of that player is connected to a stereo mixer.

NOW, I want to mute a specific mixer track by pressing dedicated buttons of= my KP, but I haven't found a way....

I have tried using midi learn and "parameters linking"..., but it= definitively doesn't work.

I've also tried remapping PC in Note message and in CC....nothing !
It looks like bidule internal linking doesn't listen to that midi messa= ges.

Anyone tried that ?
Thanks

-Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com<= /a>







--000e0cd48034f9dc0b049cb66037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 13:21:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C0BF183460; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=puVxk0wXEKAnOY+JBLQss08u+z3aTCaMJNkbzAABMB4=; b=QRu/kk98ORhNh7n5K1ZwOgPKz/HLntb8r69Lnebl0n9PTdDyA/7NSLX41+6+5Z9LA1 mbRX61B+04YoVo972vAN8tZ1jSoC2pmYcUTU0fuR8Zrl4W3qsPxpsUG46mdDSnJHosDs dmWlke9840EIjppYuH5MWIUiPKO68r3Cq0BfM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sNeP83DiVqKYJOjFUAIzm1cZuCH69ED/mW+PK6d5pOxwXHIAWsVpRmZ8BRx6r0nOaM Np+l6jGmUZfgl6KatcPl2P9oZEJwEkKbrsP6vM9sdHEOeNUgRrxViuqkyDGCoIlRqfvm Zmeos4lEAUUz3lQni+yFRZTFvC9DJ+yjtzguw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:21:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Midi linking inside Bidule: help needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6vDV4D.A.LVG.LVRYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > > Those are my connections: > Kaoss Pad midi output > RME 400 audio interface, Input 1 > Inside Bidule: RME400 midi input 1 > PC filter. > Now If I press one of the eight buttons on my KP, I can see each is sending a PC midi message inside bidule. > > Here, in bidule, I also have 4 audio players playing loops of different lenght in loop mode. Each of that player is connected to a stereo mixer. > > NOW, I want to mute a specific mixer track by pressing dedicated buttons of my KP, but I haven't found a way.... > > I have tried using midi learn and "parameters linking"..., but it definitively doesn't work. > > I've also tried remapping PC in Note message and in CC....nothing ! > It looks like bidule internal linking doesn't listen to that midi message Hi Fabio, I use to handle similar control routings by using the "CC To Params" module. But since your Kaoss Pad sends MIDI Program Change you need to first convert them into CC#s. Here are the steps in Bidule: 1. Cable from your MIDI Device Input to a (MIDI) Message Remapper. 2. ...OUCH!!!! When doing this hands-on, while typing, I'm discovering the Message Remapper can't convert PC into CC#. But you can use two daisy-chained Messe Remappers: first convert PC to NOte and then converte Note to CC#. 3. Cable the last Message Remapper into a "CC To Params" module. 4. Open the global Parameters window and select the corresponding "CC To Params" as the source and the corresponding "Mute Channel" number as the target inside the Mixer. Good luck! I too am working in Bidule right now. Setting up a minimal and rock solid gig environment. I have finally acquired the needed plugins to match the fidelity of Mainstage and as I do a lot of CC# sweeping Bidule seems a more stable host. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 13:41:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7D60183462; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=VYQ98ifyHQxXGH5l/gKxhNnthzRR3J2hv/zvMo/I9Qg=; b=jYWNFj3V8Z4XyphHD/fjXDca/rRCasv708HW7duIwKz+nQAAxN30go18a+41NXackj qsJPPvLENMK97xhNNIrDHq1TRtiZGHfqiR3C1CLVy3p5Ow34AW586YQ48btNfcjJnBjn jQKpMJ+2IJiPtPooPiG8kcrzXJnxO9kkzkOWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=Fs15HMiz57NkNyQ/2xWdNj2fRE0aFdRvY3uHoD7ixPJpN4MstEnPAW1jwu5Cfz4V2/ wGLSO0w8FNok421scCqz47dloMPLHHGbv/fmeTRCI5qLnu+em1f1rx1WQDZsd6pdktt6 b7pRayyMV8a/V76nikJ+S/6vlpWeV7Z6XE++s= References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: OT: Midi linking inside Bidule: help needed Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:41:22 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Il giorno 20/feb/2011, alle ore 14:21, Per Boysen ha s= critto: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Fabio_A wrote: >>=20 >> Those are my connections: >> Kaoss Pad midi output > RME 400 audio interface, Input 1 >> Inside Bidule: RME400 midi input 1 > PC filter. >> Now If I press one of the eight buttons on my KP, I can see each is sendi= ng a PC midi message inside bidule. >>=20 >> Here, in bidule, I also have 4 audio players playing loops of different l= enght in loop mode. Each of that player is connected to a stereo mixer. >>=20 >> NOW, I want to mute a specific mixer track by pressing dedicated buttons o= f my KP, but I haven't found a way.... >>=20 >> I have tried using midi learn and "parameters linking"..., but it definit= ively doesn't work. >>=20 >> I've also tried remapping PC in Note message and in CC....nothing ! >> It looks like bidule internal linking doesn't listen to that midi message= >=20 >=20 > Hi Fabio, >=20 > I use to handle similar control routings by using the "CC To Params" > module. But since your Kaoss Pad sends MIDI Program Change you need to > first convert them into CC#s. Here are the steps in Bidule: >=20 > 1. Cable from your MIDI Device Input to a (MIDI) Message Remapper. >=20 > 2. ...OUCH!!!! When doing this hands-on, while typing, I'm discovering > the Message Remapper can't convert PC into CC#. But you can use two > daisy-chained Messe Remappers: first convert PC to NOte and then > converte Note to CC#. This is where I am now.=20 >=20 > 3. Cable the last Message Remapper into a "CC To Params" module. CC to params seems to be what I was looking for. Thanks ! I'll try it in a few hours. >=20 > 4. Open the global Parameters window and select the corresponding "CC > To Params" as the source and the corresponding "Mute Channel" number > as the target inside the Mixer. >=20 > Good luck! I too am working in Bidule right now. Setting up a minimal > and rock solid gig environment. I have finally acquired the needed > plugins to match the fidelity of Mainstage and as I do a lot of CC# > sweeping Bidule seems a more stable host. Back to Bidule ? Does it have better rountings options than Mainstage ? Thanks, Per. You saved my day !!! -f >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 13:56:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7767B183457; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=24hqM+T7Jf/VQCYFEQac7sdB5g3lfdowPrEzWoixT88=; b=HyBCpE5DhjiyqLT+Fd72NMt5itme9r4W71NKV4Z0Hzf88OLgl0QTEwtWJQcz4Kvpsq vKASZdubZkttSPx0yGUN4coPhaNnDIzL5MxF1myxYEG2INZ+GfcNxQqYhcisu2E3atao iPiDw9Y0FfZqwgdWLHrl4bNk+cELSGbo5UuS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U+UjufHhBeo4iNwcPO0VGuqo4rxNqfJDYTl8UjN7b9UpP8QJL7ktV/hSStrOZd1Lwn AKgAswxQ5CWPXqMZj/+1MZBYhHBiJXz9eDenDDLrmOTrbxe/oDqYYfJajD5TQ6l+gHB5 UB2IxEDkHK1zAO2zfZj/7svtBBakKPeEy6JX4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:56:48 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Midi linking inside Bidule: help needed From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:56:49 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Back to Bidule ? Does it have better rountings options than Mainstage ? > > Thanks, Per. You saved my day !!! "Better"....? That depends on what you want to do. Mainstage has way better CC# control sweep scaling (at least simpler and faster to set up in graphics as algorithmic curves) for when you want to play an expression pedal and have multiple plugin's sorted parameters react differently to the sweep (some cross faded, others fast in the beginning but slower at the end of the sweep, other the other way around....). But when doing all that live Mainstage 2 chokes and crashes. For the west afro band I play EWI in I use Mainstage 1 for this reason but in Bidule I really can't fine tune my "meta instrument" as well as under Mainstage 2. But crashing we don't want, so therefore I'm setting it all up under Bidule now (three audio inputs: Flute mic and two Stick lines). A little clumsier playing, due to this CC# scaling issue, but rock solid in stability! As for all other audio and control data routing I'm finding Bidule ultimately good. A reason I can do this now is I have finally acquired the needed plugins (plus experience) to achieve the same audio fidelity as Mainstage. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 14:29:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9DB9183453; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 582762022/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.67/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.67 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkCAPuzYE1YbRdD/2dsb2JhbAAMhBSUCbdfj0iBJ4NBdgSPQg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,194,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="582762022" Message-ID: <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:29:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > so therefore I'm setting it all up under Bidule now (three audio > inputs: Flute mic and two Stick lines). A little clumsier playing, due > to this CC# scaling issue, but rock solid in stability! It wouldn't be all that hard to make a Bidule group that handled the scaling, and could be controlled with a stack of faders. e.g. 6 faders would divide the response "curve" into 5 linear sections. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 14:39:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3B84183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=46an4rY1sSo7ntLiFfcN31Vapum6QYhTD0YwGZ5KPeA=; b=LhnFz/PbpfFJl6X9AbxLt80yhxfxko2JRQ5qAQ7n/IWoBEPvhGf1U6+SjxtNldCPko ojCRJHR+ioPiTizGT/h4LKAP9GPuuA620bGzxWPsAN7nWn73bP0VsK6aodDt7u7EVCBH 1uFaLlmE+JS1cx/sXqMsFD0Kg6a2/e83H7di0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qUEJYKOfI5QriUqdwwbxENmxXRtdcvJD3/mzv4aFOIMOEWi1XK0E+VXkguwhch2xLX trX4NKuDMzJMNzTlU7BhETbZU7rJERFCu9wtTI9X8eLoJbyZaFtgzihIVU/azrltK4L0 p6RgA7+vIU0yTIn2N1GjKAEoHnDxJCGFOrYgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:39:37 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > >> so therefore I'm setting it all up under Bidule now (three audio >> inputs: Flute mic and two Stick lines). A little clumsier playing, due >> to this CC# scaling issue, but rock solid in stability! On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler wrote= : > It wouldn't be all that =C2=A0hard to make a Bidule group that > handled the scaling, and could be controlled with a stack of faders. > > e.g. 6 faders would divide the response "curve" into > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 5 linear sections. Good point, that's a typical "Bidule solution". Not as fast as clicking the matching graph in Mainstage though :-) but I need to schedule Bidule time for doing that sooner or later anyway, since it seems I'll be going back to more Bidule playing in the future. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 15:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3E86183453; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D613A48.1070607@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 07:59:04 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Before we Looped References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 15:59:12 +0000 (UTC) > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe > > wrote: > > Seeing as we´re all wallowing in Nostalgia... > > http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q > Great to see you playing live, Mark. Sounds great and you were rocking a very cool look at that time! This is a ways back innit? Your drummer doesn't have the front head on his kick drum and he's playing a simmons trigger pad.........whoa!!!!!!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 16:30:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFC6D183449; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HfD7tsUZvAhlkBP4Au5AV4UKvPV0OTmiwGEwKb6xVjY=; b=pMGlrruPI6zhV+bWi8BOwJ7ueaCiqX3U8bgsZYjDyfaAx5dEpGPeVAj/+gmuJ74dM1 arwubeFIcEVO8ai+khqh7MltWZhHaNIp7/6/Hf9c6tPkLAwMSCNAUgy/osIvql9SkFux rohYfSnY8IqCeKTJ0lGMalNiXe0s57eiRpGME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dtT679iw07UOkKwIrd5rIe4FGmEQqII5ckvk1K8+Tx/qAEDLXgGpdVaL09VON7LfyX 8WSmKnee+lxH8C1Ant5nYpQxLD6po0fbT5wnPUBS+bfCWIeXCiMU7ZurXXjccLd16cSC Yad30NdOJSJ/5CPYgdicsJrS7pJrakmqiuO4c= Message-ID: <4D61415E.8030507@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:29:18 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to test midi References: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4jgKTC.A.GUD.5GUYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Am 20.02.2011 12:30, schrieb Andy Owens: > Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands are coming out a midi pipe? Cant seem to get my LP1 to send midi stop/start anymore and wondering what I could plug into to see what or what aint coming out the pipe. Ideas? MIDI-OX does that, among other things: http://www.midiox.com/ Haven't tested it on Windows 7 (and can't say anything about Vista), everything up to XP (including 64bit) works fine. Ah, and it's windows-only. Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 16:55:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0882E183453; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: How to test midi References: <376FF9BC-54B9-4166-AF18-C1A234BA8BD3@1800dialword.com> <4D61415E.8030507@googlemail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D61415E.8030507@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <90DF28FB-FDBD-4848-9073-95C62BA5291B@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:55:10 -0500 To: thread-topic: How to test midi Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thread-index: AcvRHwM8TP6NJSAPR9GKsxFN86Zfvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2011 16:55:44.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[0358E560:01CBD11F] Resent-Message-ID: <5DKsYC.A.S5D.ReUYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 16:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Thanks per and rain-man , saw that two, gotta dig up a midi to usb cabl Ya'll are the coolest, come see me!! On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:30sb AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Am 20.02.2011 12:30, schrieb Andy Owens: >> Hey any of ya'll got a suggestion of how to check to see what commands ar= e coming out a midi pipe? Cant seem to get my LP1 to send midi stop/start a= nymore and wondering what I could plug into to see what or what aint coming o= ut the pipe. Ideas? > MIDI-OX does that, among other things: > http://www.midiox.com/ >=20 > Haven't tested it on Windows 7 (and can't say anything about Vista), every= thing up to XP (including 64bit) works fine. Ah, and it's windows-only. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > --=20 > http://moinlabs.de > Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 17:09:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C56918345A; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pcARwLiPZtOb35DZboWaW63pTqR3eGcjUi/ap/J+mCg=; b=NDj/VT3qefONJ/yK1dfpxdhfcujnCnrnTDTTYJNFLHbj4nigrNdeuq7HF6bdlFvBY1 zwkpCEXDzES9OFO/zy0Kz+LOHyu87FEjrLwSR3GASR2vhuPV+TMOz9MyXPHp2z/InVaO fOXAo/gb5H9ZJc12mPqpa1eVUcXf0Wzpg+J4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QIVoyVDTrhj2+CYDcdU8X75VC/7hMOGUYq0m5Fu7+OMzTXLQUlSMivDVxXdz5CpM5u ZMuXRObl+xVjnnyZA73isvezodr2NN30NIfGFtpc1BoK72JPArnEIhFMSMecDTn3B52K Y8fbT/wtAfcTOu5va2DaDh4lXcIpg4uuxRoBY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D613A48.1070607@cruzio.com> References: <4D613A48.1070607@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:09:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: J9zneNXm1v1A8E2fZAwLiMua8fE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before we Looped To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8w-OGC.A.gUE.krUYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:09:56 +0000 (UTC) Rick said... > > Great to see you playing live, Mark. Thnx... > Sounds great and you were rocking a very cool look at that time! Ahhh, but heres the OTHER side of the same story... I just uploaded... http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/lUn8L9g2xxw This MTV appearance was very important to our career, it was filmed in Amsterdam's Paradiso, and was recorded on 24 track mobile truck (I think they just released that whole gig now??) Anyway, we went on a short tour of Holland to "warm up" for this show.. ok ... rehearse (we we=B4rnt very good at rehearsing, too many auguments, to much time wasted, so we "practiced on tour". This little film is my "on the road movie!" We were pretty improv back then, but in a NON-rehearsed way. In this movie, you will see us figuring out a track in the dressing-room, then I fade it into the MTV footage of us playing the same track... > > This is a ways back innit? =A0 =A0 Your drummer doesn't have the front he= ad on > his > kick drum and he's playing a simmons trigger pad.........whoa!!!!!!!!! The Simmons pads were pretty old even then, check out the really cool single note bass he plays on one track (the track was called Dada 441) I think its the second song on this film... but yes it was a long time ago.. 20 years infact!!! 1991 I wouldnt know about the bassdrum head thing.. is that a particularly 80=B4s ting.. I know it was a HUGE Gretch drum... Anyway... enjoy it.. its pretty noisy... > > rick walker > > --=20 mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 17:40:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C711E183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22653.39634.bm@omp1059.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298223611; bh=hEpk6UiaTyFr1t1pS22j/xq7FItazCCor3kDFScQ/rk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y+cRoyuqfBpn54LU4Hd8aCn3J7uppHtc4KYQVlW6kcWeHDSeIKEeFvLbpiXPJmbvH547++FKJiLfFmVW+4xQhB89KpJ079X1hE56a7jr/IYnapeB3l8XRtzCTSL6LP4kVBMGGfZMxgBjQZdWUxXskelI7DSg9SrCm/ejUsPZ2B0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lZG5XNYPEU4Ihlur/o5PyDezuePhqZm4pxlA/gW56Mqsvd+f0hGXvWUaK7p64Hpl7B4CnAUGnsUFZQkda0pVra2R3ZKCIEhYkWJrcwVKJ954IO6v0rPoa10yBB6ggudlQFZFlQnOFjrqP4YlfcrBRBcNCg9cKUECxBlmtp9juZY=; Message-ID: <814516.3307.qm@web45915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ufR0ywYVM1nDWUPESDs6v9DSO9m0MDsJBK5KxlkMqjAn0za maKIBmulcwE0QqSVdda3NFUyuWjoL.NDJQkj24pJuf9zrUjK9uLAIjaY5Rdp V7j_3NTMbyo249egTi5sjU3vGMIzSut70bzFntr9BJoVOG0GfqKnHdXcuqxP serWRoPGgBKwQwwJ2i4VspsGz0rcqogMmjp210Qm0lY4YHZ.AuRl.Zlgx6Ik zfhCsxYVBZDRWsC_X1orw2ZM_mmWG9Ubep5Kr0H71dj4g X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D5EC290.3030508@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:40:11 -0800 (PST) From: E Gross Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-59912273-1298223611=:3307" Resent-Message-ID: <8xPQvB.A.FKF.9HVYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:40:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-59912273-1298223611=:3307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW=0A=0AIf I could go back 20 years, I would like to join your band ;)=0A= =0ANever could find people around here interested in doing that sort of thi= ng......=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: mark franco= mbe =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASe= nt: Fri, February 18, 2011 7:32:30 PM=0ASubject: Re: RE: Before we Looped= =0A=0ASeeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia...=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtu= be.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0Amark francom= be=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Atwitter @markfrancombe=0A= http://vimeo.com/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no=0A=0A=0A --0-59912273-1298223611=:3307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WOW

If I could go back 20 years, I would like to j= oin your band ;)

Never could find people around here interested in d= oing that sort of thing......

=0A=0A --0-59912273-1298223611=:3307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 17:44:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D20183453; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m3+i0cAiPIdgBAWvJ2ARixNqZZ9vlDpI1CBL+4X/zZw=; b=V41D6Ey6WJEIXG8vjw0Svy6FDO/iONntUyolLu+0YynKZel9c4WFDk1SGHrJlZjTdN 0uio1iublkNfNkOiD4vbK9YNQnfNdKY49yXkOXmUMMKy1/LI3sdbxsx+QhSXEh86FjtO fDPLNkiBsKZUTd/cfdbDw7wEYiWjX2KGFXM0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qlqzV+uX4HFo+KLBNsZstFV3Rw1n0vZwcPS65oV9XH/5m6AzmgQmGv2vGJipcLl2y1 LMXby2+T259zektOojr7v+1zTHRwi3+auNGx2S4+w3iu1NXcL2PbnJ/bTTusxh6dJ6a9 2smMC9oaxwRU9NqzdL9iYMH0ih0IGfeKCyhZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:44:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Per, Maybe not as fast, but once you create the group, it can be saved for re-use later and even shared (just like the previously-discussed Hansje guitar-to-midi-too audio group)...and that's a great thing! Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> so therefore I'm setting it all up under Bidule now (three audio >>> inputs: Flute mic and two Stick lines). A little clumsier playing, due >>> to this CC# scaling issue, but rock solid in stability! > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler wro= te: >> It wouldn't be all that =A0hard to make a Bidule group that >> handled the scaling, and could be controlled with a stack of faders. >> >> e.g. 6 faders would divide the response "curve" into >> =A0 =A0 5 linear sections. > > > Good point, that's a typical "Bidule solution". Not as fast as > clicking the matching graph in Mainstage though =A0:-) but I need to > schedule Bidule time for doing that sooner or later anyway, since it > seems I'll be going back to more Bidule playing in the future. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 18:04:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98BC4183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U0Sv89daxoMAozyLtNFGD5BmGwS2V1IsBIX4kmmTg4w=; b=jrq0tr+wZuAQoPhR/htgm1h5QL58HP/NTZNjr+QJxz2xsoItX5PgZGKYUERGt+xDkU 7dA5DymT0wn8pXd/5Io5mNwE56xSjo1/829UewKAEJbPBAWNT0l0BXsb3xuo9SHkV/a1 VlFmWgVKUwc9Lyr6BYRRx00yyH+Nm0bJM7OWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EmZbnXfwc9oontmqTLk8thU7tKNNh8aO/hzV1dxGlX85byDEmiuWozv36bFvR100qI LrOBy2KxJGN5tiqelbgoGReunP+2BWiKu+vFXNFz4Vpt1/Ns3Vhwj7gxD8SbxRPIZzwF SMbbhn+1nS9Ky1MzHZMuj93nVlSkwNjcUFc5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:04:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:04:44 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Maybe not as fast, but once you create the group, it can be saved for > re-use later and even shared Right. The last three days I have gone through all my old Bidule projects since six years back! Good thing with Bidule is that you keep all old Groups you have used inside the Group folder. Every time it is upgrade time I drop the new Groups into the old folder with the "do not replace all" to be sure customized groups will follow into the future. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 19:40:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD55C18345A; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:40:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Well I've learned some valuable insights in to some of my fellow loopers. 1. Per Boysen is truly a pop star, that was a phat dance track! Nice guitar moves as well. I loved the video japan tour promo documetary but I must admit I was disappointed in that they didn't mention you by name. Was this just bad editing, or one of those situations where the front people get all the attention and the pop genius mastermind lurks in the shadows? I think so.. 2. Mark Francome...ditto.. great music, perfect attitude, and was it you conducting the tour bus "interview"? That was rich. 3. Jeff Duke knows how to get down, I loved your tone,and thats coming from a tube snob, You gotta love tha JC120 sound. 4. Andy Butler you are a freakin jazzbo , very cool and quirky music but I swear to god those were hand models in that clip, tell the truth. 5. Its true I had 80's hair well in to the early 90's, the hair is mostly gone now but i still have the moves !!!! I'm getting verklempt Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 21:51:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31716183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=56f1FmHBLUv7OK0Mrh8hT8Y7u98HU8ix5EA/aUKHKVA=; b=LaY0Ym4C2U41NCU7+jESseNR0Shgxpx2SRIDTqjQoprmcDaGZCN+uTWbzT9ZbFIiDH R6LJMnqfbJFG4Ck2vwfqAKaEWkd9RhJtq+1aPKGdzC76AisNHrp5rwPlUScGXTuxHHoe 96/oFFpBZzEtopXjiGzJQM4+7+dOOkbtAXrfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hXYgyFcSq6Hv21czSb6hfJWf6KuxesH2KES1MnYqkyt3gl2NzTTmhkhXntG34zWe0j asjBhtHHD1pm5oeJU1r3re+pNsE45m55etXdRFaK5/Q030pkXyZ5mKDGUOPQihCf6dey 5G7D04tHdJ6nAxyiqFTGQulokvKxnTu7PFhO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> References: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:51:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:51:09 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:40 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > 1. Per Boysen =C2=A0is truly a pop star, =C2=A0that was a phat dance trac= k! =C2=A0Nice > guitar moves as well. I loved the video japan tour =C2=A0promo documetary= but I > must admit I was disappointed in that they didn't mention you by name. Wa= s > this just bad editing, or one of those situations where the front people = get > all the attention and the pop genius mastermind lurks in the shadows? I > think so.. Actually I got bored and left the band, so that video was spliced together with as few shots of me as possible. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 22:27:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BCE6183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NVe75fnnzl2j4vtf/28lmo7A5Oy9KCK00qEasI/mdA8=; b=XeuKgMXnLKTFwRw6bFnDqzXVwqfuoxKuW4CjROrlg1kNTV4y+iE8tG5w1kJFFe7+/4 a5+hgz3weygHsKEDN5dC14nX67VCgN4VcM7MLj7ZrOQT7m6cpCmq3AQ466CPuZlAlfon 9mcp4vfz4OpQoSP0O/qk9Zz4ikkbVE6B4PevQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=owjQ78VQLR3c/qJwziA62OpQDpo3HYM8ATnV6lh7aib76KPu8aAajxKWPGNlCSRrxe kvZRTqcc0cxWXr62prH1rukZX4j7dUoxm/udG5hdKxOIc63nes4sXXAxNHwGwb6TlbC4 OlDcBKHLdefw6quZkmOx/Rn1h9iQBz9YCtjUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> References: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647587a23e6a2049cbe3f7d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:27:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e647587a23e6a2049cbe3f7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ha, thanks Bill, I wish I still had that Rat distort box I used for "tube like" distortion with the JC 120! The new ones just don't sound the same...:( peace, Jeff On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM, William Walker wrote: > Well I've learned some valuable insights in to some of my fellow loopers. > 1. Per Boysen is truly a pop star, that was a phat dance track! Nice > guitar moves as well. I loved the video japan tour promo documetary but I > must admit I was disappointed in that they didn't mention you by name. Was > this just bad editing, or one of those situations where the front people get > all the attention and the pop genius mastermind lurks in the shadows? I > think so.. > 2. Mark Francome...ditto.. great music, perfect attitude, and was it you > conducting the tour bus "interview"? That was rich. > 3. Jeff Duke knows how to get down, I loved your tone,and thats coming > from a tube snob, You gotta love tha JC120 sound. > 4. Andy Butler you are a freakin jazzbo , very cool and quirky music but > I swear to god those were hand models in that clip, tell the truth. > 5. Its true I had 80's hair well in to the early 90's, the hair is mostly > gone now but i still have the moves !!!! > I'm getting verklempt > Bill > --0016e647587a23e6a2049cbe3f7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ha, thanks Bill, I wish I still had that Rat distort box I used for "t= ube like" distortion with the JC 120! The new ones just don't soun= d the same...:(

peace,

Jeff

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = wrote:
=A0Well I've learned some valuable insights in to some of =A0my fellow = loopers.
1. Per Boysen =A0is truly a pop star, =A0that was a phat dance track! =A0Ni= ce guitar moves as well. I loved the video japan tour =A0promo documetary b= ut I must admit I was disappointed in that they didn't mention you by n= ame. Was this just bad editing, or one of those situations where the front = people get all the attention and the pop genius mastermind lurks in the sha= dows? I think so..
2. Mark Francome...ditto.. great music, perfect attitude, and was it you co= nducting the tour bus "interview"? That was rich.
3. Jeff Duke knows how to get down, =A0I loved your tone,and thats coming f= rom a tube snob, You gotta love tha JC120 sound.
4. Andy Butler =A0you are a freakin jazzbo , very cool and quirky music =A0= but I swear to god those were hand models in that clip, tell the truth.
5. Its true I had 80's hair well in to the early 90's, the hair is = mostly gone now but i still have the moves !!!!
=A0I'm getting verklempt
Bill

--0016e647587a23e6a2049cbe3f7d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 22:29:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BC71183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 582903386/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.23.67/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.23.67 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAHskYU1YbRdD/2dsb2JhbAAMmB68A4t9hV4Ej0I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,196,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="582903386" Message-ID: <4D6195DD.5010505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:29:49 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Before we Looped References: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:29:33 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > 4. Andy Butler you are a freakin jazzbo , very cool and quirky music > but I swear to god those were hand models in that clip, tell the truth. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZONZ_b7zs The truth is only known to myself and Gerry Anderson. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 20 22:54:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E829183456; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 316 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:54:41 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=guN9RfIw/HJgQbBtrXnA8SjkI+YmC0ek16eBFofmQm24mT51DJ4iT76zA57GbE8v; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14932741.1298242165077.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:49:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48fcbd52c15f9307e9fbf60fe8bc06def119c9e15d1c7c699c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:54:41 +0000 (UTC) RAT freek that i be-highlee recommend the reissue of the 80s box that i still own-the two units are indiscernable to these beat up ears! http://www.ratdistortionpedals.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke Sent: Feb 20, 2011 2:27 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped ha, thanks Bill, I wish I still had that Rat distort box I used for "tube like" distortion with the JC 120! The new ones just don't sound the same...:( peace, Jeff On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:40 PM, William Walker wrote: Well I've learned some valuable insights in to some of my fellow loopers. 1. Per Boysen is truly a pop star, that was a phat dance track! Nice guitar moves as well. I loved the video japan tour promo documetary but I must admit I was disappointed in that they didn't mention you by name. Was this just bad editing, or one of those situations where the front people get all the attention and the pop genius mastermind lurks in the shadows? I think so.. 2. Mark Francome...ditto.. great music, perfect attitude, and was it you conducting the tour bus "interview"? That was rich. 3. Jeff Duke knows how to get down, I loved your tone,and thats coming from a tube snob, You gotta love tha JC120 sound. 4. Andy Butler you are a freakin jazzbo , very cool and quirky music but I swear to god those were hand models in that clip, tell the truth. 5. Its true I had 80's hair well in to the early 90's, the hair is mostly gone now but i still have the moves !!!! I'm getting verklempt Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 00:01:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2796F183453; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rv5i2v7yurwEqfgP0fvARcWPkwWo4xOgtPjWhFVxHlU=; b=OisDpGPZo4noT3ppHMH/d59jlcxa+h3wZWWSdvPV9RexUC4WEdk8op8OnukW1bO6B+ wuzW5TMPhxZryXqs7jj4Jk6CJ7WWeAUKMQGfyJkEr9bAf/QVf8mbwqvr+j8e/23cnK5T HtB6yK/YAXw/mhtkr2AuV15oG4MUnSFcHZZ/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=e/N2K9AYOgiS065JGw46Vj0rMRFPhWcOD5nhsVs6Mu3gtZevu9Vi8JzHx/AXEBHaIf Hqph6v1GxzrOIqEhZUgN0v44eERwlDdyzLEwLcb3t/0e3In26uPZWWdR3X9zHPBqiI/J FN9+PgtXh9LCVnmKPtkhOI9j1T/dd1BPZTsv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:01:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Apogee GIO pedal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:01:51 +0000 (UTC) http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php anybody using it yet or comments on this one? Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 00:49:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A610B183453; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Sk0yUuA3W66tkKMs5UaXV3uBKnUEnfXbCUzuQsg6488=; b=omwuiaM1j0l75qt9z5tLZF50Geov/ijwKFq0wrhgppa/o0VUovZamiOLDtVzmxdip7 QQdU5K8bVL6k1ATEvWFhqUzSiwvJP6Nle0xzZuamc3Cfsgqfz7xNyze6uITrbjYaAmsJ Efz6IpWnj9FNYjS2yU5C5RRafEOSDdRlUQI1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oyLLFwmzLia56BA7NFMzSkNZ92jZU0j8BGW3QUMUqKER5gJedja9hFIlGSsMrhZuRj Ag7sM40pvLPD1iXzoYCo76oA3A9OTxR2zN1usNBXUf6j8IwLU4PRfoSchg+zBKQ7xZkd wltyBn4u0fZQVXHxsQ15RIHpWTvqR6lcbGSrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:49:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apogee GIO pedal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:49:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php > > anybody using it yet or comments on this one? I think it looks nice. But I never considered it because I already have an audio interface that is better then this product's built-in USB jack. If it would have been only a MIDI pedalboard I might have looked closer, as it's size is fine with me... but that was before I became a Gordius user ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 01:45:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21B2183453; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: OT: compact discs for sale From: tyler newman In-Reply-To: <20110220143938.CCD5A18344B@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:45:08 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2A3EFBA9-68D4-4395-9352-D7EA2268E955@batterycage.com> References: <20110220143938.CCD5A18344B@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:45:17 +0000 (UTC) hi- hello everyone. just wanted to let you know that i am blowing out my = entire cd collection, since i've moved to an all-digital library. i'm = sure there are plenty of purists on the list who still prefer cd's, and = so i'm letting them go for absurdly low prices. you can see the inventory here: = http://www.solidgreysky.com/compactdiscblowout to make this potentially annoying post vaguely loop-related, you can = also find my loop-based music project available for free...look for 'the = valley of wolves' under 'free downloads'...if you like guitar based dark = ambient / industrial noise, then you might like it... thanks! -tyler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 02:54:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82480183453; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298256884; bh=DIj5VnJ1+nff7Gbq1hldu6L5pxTx6vdKVL/M14hPlHA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jhqYF1nUJX0LyMmsLNtXQGGXh405k3fbjlklrsKNrkAQ+VOqaICUmY23dznlm6CupSbwDwd1QT+IqFtM91l4wIXngnNP+YSiRd8XsW3PTEH2y3QIrVNOkqM4aKKXNMZ/TLieHC6C/vbiLy8Lx1cJ29WTlSfq90Nqhrm7KaWbptQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PcnRpOPzWyGLTT0KGfnFjNmoesod6lp33cXbnuJ8CpTrISjkztZFLONApsdUjF7lzxLtV0DQcCoKPYGOKm87XSwTybUlJ19HCEIrYPlGLRbEanrKb33TOWkxK7l3UftNcsgzxYkVnFweRVoMQC6kaQ/zqEP/RSzX01B67FeZ+BI=; Message-ID: <641749.31640.qm@web32501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jPQ_.Z0VM1nCMe6ioNETZ09zNIyvBNJ76VPLO3xZljwHw5t m9WZW0tcalOgzFxM1RqFKIcj5mVU8nNs8TqK9wqnp5nAHJL3OICoklwK8ft1 a7Wr9G77SljOZPpyL.NLmQeriBvmVr9fPip9sq21SDaeFfiZR6MdrsO43Kkr KgLD6HftMZLZWFkNk4bhI9.BAebKXY3Q1nzzJwkNkmWi4JmR8R5jBPdAQB28 3UyIWw4NCM8G4NohrCIRDZPNhj30WhF1bJfFb3T_X_oAUvZtY5mZ.lmozRlO wA4.R1cUI7dwu7_aI5TWGQ6ac7j2IvY3S68bH3fP_gUUAxt.7bu0H4K5FDPK OOMk- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-886858397-1298256884=:31640" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:54:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-886858397-1298256884=:31640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW!!=20 =A0 =A0 The, Cranes???!!! I walked into a new/used record-tape-cd store one day and= heard th emost incrediblr muzik I had heard in a LONG time. It was the Cra= nes. Despite the proprietr's proteats, I insisted he sell it to me. I was b= uilding eltic harps at the time, and the track playing had a prominent harp= part to it. I HAD to have it. It was , (and is), Beautiful.=20 rig --- On Sat, 2/19/11, Art Simon wrote: From: Art Simon Subject: Re: RE: Before we Looped To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 10:10 PM Wow, loved these two songs Mark! I'm embarrassed to admit I'd never heard t= he Cranes before. Lovely! Best music I've heard since Live Skull. I think i= t's aged really well, just great stuff. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: Seeing as we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia... http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon =0A=0A=0A --0-886858397-1298256884=:31640 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The, Cranes???!!! I walked into a new/used record-tape-cd store one da= y and heard th emost incrediblr muzik I had heard in a LONG time. It was th= e Cranes. Despite the proprietr's proteats, I insisted he sell it to me. I = was building eltic harps at the time, and the track playing had a prominent= harp part to it. I HAD to have it. It was , (and is), Beautiful.
rig

--- On Sat, 2/19/11, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>
Subje= ct: Re: RE: Before we Looped
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 10:10 PM

Wow, loved these two songs Mark! I'm embarrassed to = admit I'd never heard the Cranes before. Lovely! Best music I've heard sinc= e Live Skull. I think it's aged really well, just great stuff.

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM, mark = francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wr= ote:
Seeing as = we=B4re all wallowing in Nostalgia...

= http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/F0HaNiesq5Q



--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com=
w= ww.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094<= /A>
http= ://www.looop.no



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.commyspace [dot] com/artsimon

= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-886858397-1298256884=:31640-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 03:15:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63184183453; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 03:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298258142; bh=H3rYz9R7BdRKzjEnhAA4AxDNsLFaxs4O5qI4IIB9C1c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=afdtMSQe2jsxYIXjLoTAu5z5ulgwX1f6F/CZrOOByQewTylxqYUaW2d5912rlKOWUml6WNgM5UegfYJrOsiVnpXyZ9At499TB9/mMuGMPQyA727D3HrI5H4S0RdWGcWvQqS3VIC1cfe6mE657p6wnLXE1CvH1Tt/rRlzBqC+E2g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tFxGaF8iE0YuOFiEU+jdKVNmGRrnGNJOVO9e4jEqi3KfCJUMX5TkfKATdgmvFa30JPETcHmpA5D8NzZdccU2mKFLZOWSZKrEF9hUMV8qCL4SvyoFzzrqtSCDcPofk5OGci37vY4GaYNu20tMq/FDLkF8EKExGUa7/EevSai50YM=; Message-ID: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Pw5uJF8VM1nH77FA.XeJvFn3TozXTr0ij1wGRShSJX8sB_3 jvvdMAv6nbwqNuKjVk6mh6zkMhrvntbfzoRLNXIhQNeQLzirB0P4krmJSTre TnveL_3iIDxIayh_a5yWiwvtpqzUwnoNm3W2KoDbBLAoLbGXAG5nc0MxeM80 TzReNPDefJQERm5TlVa3tla1QqfhV7WA1woTUNLcknkFnhFh3yIxSpGxw4sY I0FXBfFfWg45aGzg3qyPtRTtHkz4t0WxO6JHAfmzaWgP9nC4XVQCPwe7ZKkw th67hcqyz8U_aapULHSlBTuONNZOTLT6lMpxfRcFYxVV8fTAkre2uYDl0nkR acZCMwNnpy64qaoZj5PH9 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:15:42 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: re: total improv To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2ek4j.A.AFD.fjdYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 03:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, To hear example of our, "hit record and go" muzik, go to www.turboproductions.org. Click on "Exp/Efx", and you will hear muzik created in real time, no rehearsal, recorded straight to stereo. As I was playing, mixing, and operating the machines at the same time, you will not hear a lot of panning, but you wil hear performances recorded in real time with no advavce plan. Rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 04:04:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9367C183456; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298261085; bh=4rQNMoujAJUZbs09Fd2cC3cqFJQjxhoAc8QVuGQWqIM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Gcfw5xxspIvxFMAHmUdhFryXcAs10VGs4BbFxZx+HCk//CnftANKprLHhFPnc1u9R0J3yeRKaqqdDa4zLxSiiXzVZd7JY4DycSLvBaNxE+XGBrjXhKSkpqyjHbla5delS5JAFkFskze1v+GRJj66jrTsXx88rZjSL6RRLi17cdM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CQNdQiri52jbKjujwbkPgdTWUrztpR0jh38X3CMc+Ul+RxW1dN57Xn7BTAE+ETwXAx4uYgCbsA1DoFwrGBIDKsDP8JZWFwuJaGmjTPH52zCJMmDNA9JPJ1oaK3EkcPWtZrauoiMsO+H4k1qC/wkCM2HqmerIYyK6YOVRUIENd40=; Message-ID: <575075.68469.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 48kpKMYVM1kuRkPhhJ.X174xp3X4xuEe9Hgb20fQPDjhEhO mvK04.KJxMyowutCsanlcoPV5aPkXgvK_gpASVfsFUfhoBxcQElTpfG3VujB 6.H1crqUWsPCJIzTaf2h6hz6ZzmCwG1suk3u7mPeHQPz_LZ.OopaxFfBnHSy n92O7G8x7p27rTU36BN.HfxQYBu6yftBsxhl9YNzXETA.zfD9mBqdUJhb3sl s9ltHaCOGPzLFbAJu0YfZ1C9oqBGKOimfYzosXhVoyonBW8YND4H9lCaezJC V2EVCN7L0OcNh2AUZpZGazRh5_2QEca3cfXW4iGH42GQnl31nJWTLHEIOoj8 Bjc6qzbTTmaqbrHoc3Sh63XhAqXWtVopEEnBK.MMra3x5VQ4X92GSv8ZB8uJ 9 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:04:45 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: re: total improv To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Nothing like being in the moment! Enjoying the thoughts folk's are throwing= out there-this thread reminds me of the notes on Kind Of Blue by Bill Evan= s:=0A=0A"There is a Japanese visual art in which the artist is forced to be= spontaneous. He must paint on a thin stretched parchment with a special br= ush and black water paint in such a way that an unnatural or interrupted st= roke will destroy the line or break through the parchment. Erasures or chan= ges are impossible. These artists must practice a particular discipline, th= at of allowing the idea to express itself in communication with their hands= in such a direct way that deliberation cannot interfere.=0A=0AThe resultin= g pictures lack the complex composition and textures of ordinary painting, = but it is said that those who see well find something captured that escapes= explanation.=0A=0AThis conviction that direct deed is the most meaningful = reflections, I believe, has prompted the evolution of the extremely severe = and unique disciplines of the jazz or improvising musician."=0A=0AI've alwa= ys loved that analogy for improv music -anyhow, be well everybody and, last= ly, I'd like to share a little improv jam I did w/ percussion, bowed/pizzed= upright bass, and elec guitar a while back-hope you dig:=0A=0Ahttp://www.y= outube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/20/ATC4r3zukmM=0A=0A-also another I did = w/ bassist Bryan Beller at a house concert in my home in Monterey:=0A=0Ahtt= p://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/18/dDyQ9QiR_qc=0A=0A-Steve Ucce= llo=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 2/20/11, bill bigrig wrot= e:=0A=0A> From: bill bigrig =0A> Subject: re: total i= mprov=0A> To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, Februar= y 20, 2011, 7:15 PM=0A> Howdy,=0A> =0A> To hear example of our, "hit recor= d and go" muzik, go to=0A> www.turboproductions.org. Click on "Exp/Efx", an= d you will=0A> hear muzik created in real time, no rehearsal, recorded=0A> = straight to stereo. As I was playing, mixing, and operating=0A> the machine= s at the same time, you will not hear a lot of=0A> panning, but you wil hea= r performances recorded in real time=0A> with no advavce plan.=0A> Rig=0A> = =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 08:31:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B0B6183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=ixrKpx/oxDIRP+iZ2QW2YCrGZ4JQNAXoMbJraCpHGmnGtFz7e7XHiVM7zZOYa1/Dy/K8kIMuKudP6jaxfN9JvLAWPP5BetlbNwwI9hZKUM3jr/mAvQBX52QSBMOe5zxcKioO8Cj64a5xhEJnXrdcnSh0PYswJ2VWhA2I5Mhdtgk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298277076; bh=n7A+QQTD0SM70oICBn7QzwVVaOJsnyPcB1+9m8g3ydU=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:References:In-Reply-To:X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:X-Mailer:From:X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid:Subject:Date:To; b=e4vvZUtX+vkEYZCzzxUidxyDnhZDhcmEdSjuxn8fL75NniM93XhApnsWp14nj5Flc3EWWglJch9fUjhQAWutW2ImQ4R0vl80AUoCr1KTeLTZMi9lTRm55zvvt3MBVKFjcd7yU+kKL7AQb7dQLmgIxJalXbMRnhYC2unAXSqX2A8= X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4744BV2swBCkM3UOjz04WGbz6AsNdMXlCg-- X-YMail-OSG: j_VCCFMVM1nJBWz5fI8aO49Uo8CirsFmOBKZihp7J6hkaWD L7RUztqFgVXEEwHtLuflBtQJWKveopWFz2M73ETUE0caAKO2xAFh9P9yYCB1 bIoHrJfMR5BzgC1T7MXo338yDUucmsr_s9sQ4WVsZw9DrkkWYMBZdgr2noKK RyAQ7gLO0a0b9XqjNWMF98WJxBurWn_kQoQ.GuSq4mvMJYTOpM09B96pTL1z lt2.ATIcbxfG2DEfalLeCOLNb_R2cHNlseg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Apple-Yahoo-Original-Message-Folder: Inbox Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_7977331_ANNSimIAABX5TWHY4gfRk2kNRuM Subject: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:30:27 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Curious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in terms Of new cont= rollers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you hand or body moveme= nt variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes or aegenharp. Antony= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 11:26:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CA5C183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vnYGZ5mI8cNjmhaCPcT64MwAN/mReBx6x4o/JqIlVlI=; b=uTA+94z/bBe0jMXAUVCn1gA4FJYyelEGQPojGqDFmCQAUJcWtj9CWvhH8EuWiW7zqd TjwIijPJm3OLCtVegQGI8FGsRa5+y6QpuQlIEEBXfS1q2SJ7Z//i2pwxp1/JQcoTc3m2 qhsyOTtNFo6+JY7o64QRFC0cB+VnFUXFLAEGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=guwfa56TVmUaaIJ272roi3XvVGhr+kmN8XK4WFIXdtA9vtqfJKZ+k9g0lm6IGs1dWo 3qa9rvXp7N1wYLhV/mk6TLCfSIX1BffBzk7lZSCGz1rCEFIs3MdKcU7FLESSPw4sda/y Piprv/YQ9zPIVvpLF6CUJLGqnUN4rTpbUjVWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:25:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Not much. I did a quick check using iphone4 with TouchOSC to control some music performance software. But I never used the shake-the-phone function, which is what I guess would meat your inquiry regarding "interpreting hand and body movements". Generally I am very sceptic when it comes to my own use for these kind of controllers. The reason is that I play physical instrument that are extremely picky about precision in fine motor skills. If I should try to shake-a-leg or squeeze-my-legs, or whatever control gesture, it would hurt the musical playing. Touch screens isn't an option either for two reasons; musicians have no free hands to touch and they force you to look at them to use them, visual control is hard for a musician. The most musician friendly controller context I've seen so far is the pedal floorboard. But I think it can be expanded; instead of traditional expression pedals I would appreciate a 40x40 cm touch pads. Like the SoftStep, but bigger and a lot fewer. Then I'd like a kick-switch pane to call up which two variables I want to *skate* (yes, I think a nice product name for this could be "the SKATE PAD"). Well, I would like to still use two traditional expression pedals; I've found out that you can work both with one foot and then have patches in the software that cross fade them when needed. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Curious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in terms Of new controllers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you hand or body movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes or aegenharp. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 13:24:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C809A183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=N6iruf8I62Q3IG8btDqSByzQxdFkQHZq1X4MYhsvOF8=; b=Jgi7c4M0hpiinhWd/tK5WHeXzZZl8MAnn/9hgTU+P6SZ1EpFH1k+CBzD4hCvwns25o bSarSefGeQKBRjIjc2ECOZr8C/uZWti/eYbiDm2x1189NGbfQdNO83J7a+7teU2kdALt ek4rp6TEEJahi/Bbea99jWQ//Y8BXuq/dxMy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mo+zr/RXVkkyMDx69oAT355E2RggB9EDVFMwVepQ1/kFY1GEny4pgXUT+EiAElTGaB m1H1k2cwDGTuNVpy+VTh3JARJBBWnSk3S197eavONade6TT8W3nF2wCVB9j5l5bwpj/e rLXrrM8ZOPlsYJ7NSkX5hWarXpS2tUrsLK+A4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:24:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:24:22 +0000 (UTC) > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> Maybe not as fast, but once you create the group, it can be saved for >> re-use later and even shared On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Right. The last three days I have gone through all my old Bidule > projects since six years back! Good thing with Bidule is that you keep > all old Groups you have used inside the Group folder. Every time it is > upgrade time I drop the new Groups into the old folder with the "do > not replace all" to be sure customized groups will follow into the > future. > For the record I just want to add here that I ran into an issue using Bidule (0.9709 OS X) for this setup, drawing on heavy morphing. It seems the app can't match using a few external CC#s assigned to a big number of parameters inside a few plugins while all parameter assignments are locally scaled. I've posted on the Bidule forum to get input on the issue. Meanwhile I'm building the rig in Mainstage 1, since MS 2 also freaks out on morphing. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 15:25:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78184183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tFnKg6OGdhYcHDdcrfZIjAicIpBeU1TKU49Wh9e9sBs=; b=gYm/+jXBCaYz/PP2cewthkQEeGsEEGziHk4fzdtBu6mXaJOllFitMxwE81VlyMuF6C ivid+OVLpps3BShKdQxmb09tuJGHPvpzKHDFM1al2hUxWQn0JEOO715sssTooatyKsA6 qB4YaqxD5YdKxzDUkHDN7AToWze7BxbszaYrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X1JT4yzOouw5r3kvTuJUE+2sAiU9ioCKTrdkU2roiMTR+uW0AKgtQMy1wjKcUKGPpm +/ebmlzvpsaPIes/P7EfphKoVmkF1CeL4DiiWtGNqpQBAhxU6POKTYG21nKyZihQyexp OhQrPTAO5dwic/BIo8r3xIm9wTWkQSDqJPAMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:25:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:25:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I've posted on the Bidule forum to get > input on the issue. Meanwhile I'm building the rig in Mainstage 1, > since MS 2 also freaks out on morphing. Interesting info. What exactly is the issue? -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 15:39:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4407F183464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RyBYPj37iF6oLWhBtByZRpnbGL5b3z4wrJ3MfWSt40o=; b=O2Gb0yyQlXUAhR8p8rZiiyt8OMP/m2T+lMolud6xIqyGc6OoQlTI043fRleglHw3WV 2Dm1WtgrFb51YoKcwwSTCkmY2orsRhd+PvJYS8zatGehLuvq2mbGSP7Xx+Ibx2wH54Ij SZybdyb+a1r/rgsyvSLIuKvujM3HE/R6+yIo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XdDiZTy4XuWSVdeVtfhMEAZ/G0F4aKhhfKQeVR3FdaPr/dD6NV/oy2jc51+vCwZMRz ifpAicnI+nqkhc7mLoQPJsymudOPTqAYQqvYfZTXWoP+LxDLatUfDyiC9dt937NHPjMH PBCRVMcsUs53okICi3dmfePZMc39JXoro+A+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:39:10 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Interesting info. What exactly is the issue? http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5608&p=30145#p30145 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 15:47:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69100183465; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UoM31qY_AAAA:8 a=VP2YmCsWhJvTMkU2_HsA:9 a=YcoipnRsokN2shhINAMA:7 a=s_jBGnB4RmS3HjVnn1xr4uU-PdwA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:47:01 -0800 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:47:03 +0000 (UTC) Anthony, Though not a new company at all, EoWave at has been producing a wide variety of products like that for quite a while. I am using one of their devices in my new laptop setup, not a body controller actually, just a USB hub that accepts 4 EV-5 plugs directly. But they do have all sorts of novel motion-sensor-to-MIDI and light- sensor-to-MIDI and whatever-sensor-to-MIDI systems on offer. If you wanted to get yourself a jumpsuit and cover it in detectors and sensors of various kinds, they would have the stuff to make it happen. But it's not cheap, mind you . . . Best, Ted On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Curious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in terms Of > new controllers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you > hand or body movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or > the cubes or aegenharp. > Antony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 15:59:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69132183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hL0qU7Yzk0vLmicHkMarrNcnPRbs1q9h/k36v2kFZ4g=; b=bhkeMPVHjIA1i8psFc6JPVpMCLYBICfVLQSDF/4QPwi3wgpU0mdE+nDpcdvdad/H9q V3XwPbYoMlcOHy7/3DdhoH3s2iMlFAFL+Svv1LKGPQxryrkTM4uIMNhKJIesjoyKbBqM j2ESlgE9TgOKp7ZybL1sLNeBzxA+9CjreFjSo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T1Fk3R8Q6y1vkNlx6hJmRh7nz5H4L9KOeC9aIYp9kxti2LYv23Ek0fMQ0TxDv6y64F wlFyqL24RDWirP/04DfweD8wK6gZb9SCiGJWGjOzPUXThO3gZdhqZS1XN4kvuC+4snaP mRilpVdIkZuhr8HyGvFhFsTgCHYKvCVTvBnnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:59:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5a0oe.A.oqD.KvoYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:59:07 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:47 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn wrote: > just a USB hub that accepts 4 EV-5 plugs directly. That might be an incredibly useful thing, Ted! I use the Gordius Little Giant 2 for that; can handle four EV-5 or two EV-5 and two extra analog switches (as I keep mine configured). > Interesting site! I've been buying stuff from Bugbrand http://www.bugbrand.co.uk/ before and didn't know about Eowave. Until now. Looking for a X/Y touch pad for foot control (think "iPad Carpet"). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:06:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0773C183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UT1F0UzKcUcwa6EryaeSTFv41BYJDQdrlXKSKIWRs6k=; b=r19YngmMq7CMszepa5K2iMkerMyX1vTHIWnJ5weql0+0TezqBpEqF04nPYHIt6UaVt QIIEabqAsn1XrQ4t0B6IM/5kbF0T3ZEufw1WbDyOzaE9ic4OcnBMdqXa6VJ3D+TCLj9D XP8nMF4PZ6XN2a2f+Bb4a0qn2bmq1Flu4dD2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fvgFS4QApllq6zZJcoDR5Qolw9aNNO1ZCAKAS5QwnVNDO3b6YApWJt5M00HaMNSkmB FatyGbGX49357WBfPv2VSF3k3b/rpyU+dYip5Q0Zcux3X9SgBq7juTCXTyJhT/ckVdgm JnqgYY6ZNH3gv70raQ1r8wVD3MDVIJp7FPOE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20056882-D6DA-48CF-89BB-1DF86018956E@gmail.com> <0CDC7865-3D04-4011-ACBB-5652B8E633EB@gmail.com> <4D61253C.8040501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:06:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT:Scaling inside Bidule: From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:06:54 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: >> Interesting info. What exactly is the issue? > > http://www.plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5608&p=30145#p30145 Thx, I'll have a look! -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:18:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D20D918345F; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:18:03 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B92FF2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New controllers Thread-Index: AcvR3phua7z29o07Q3m9cmZA9Kbn/wAAUqrQ References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2011 16:18:03.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA48E150:01CBD1E2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Ted writed: If you wanted to get yourself a jumpsuit and cover it in detectors and =20 sensors of various kinds, they would have the stuff to make it happen. I remember back prob about 1990 plus or minus, Fleetwood Mac was touring again with Chrity McVie and Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood jumped off the drum riser and had this jumpsuit on with all kinds of sensors and did a killer drum solo, was quite new and exciting at the time!!! Sure it wasn't wireless back in that time though. Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:29:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F557183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=etLqb+AJJUg1+qrJB1WIfOP2hQrarYsrqCBcvxMZ5m0=; b=AGQEBNY79PrjhuW18QXdOog9KEmIKDY1QJhgO1SSJiBOTyXCA/sCHZiT4I2cUHsWvY RH4cwBMjpMsBObvrewvnj6oFfKwGKlmxthSAj4z+AvoAuEVF8i2gUmd4g+Dhk1uZ2+H3 02usSix/sBadevRfn+CinPXsmi8vUV2TXaubY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=t0Q9f1oXpHK/T1jeJpI3m9vU2Es6NOIwfJMMS4HKkyKSbgJC4OFVRciYaXlbSs+6mp 5+pKBEvVa3rpPuuV7XLh0n1QLR8QfpcDOnS5qiO1DEpxdqcDVo078mmFtHmxhTJruLmO L/ursYgfY4avxhWVEMUgtL1iGjIBTpoyukkaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:29:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: total improv... From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649da8ac6a020049ccd5dbc Resent-Message-ID: <2Ouph.A.jaE.jLpYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:29:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016e649da8ac6a020049ccd5dbc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i would also recommend the dvd that nels cline did w/ a visual artist (painter) that came out last yr, around this time. i can't for the life of me remember the name of the dvd (title) or the name of the artist he works w/ but the dvd is 2 performances of nels creating music/music backdrop to the artist creating a work in front of an audience. the sounds that nels comes up w/ are most inspiring...he uses is EH 16ddl and korg kaoss pad a lot in it... and it really shows the artist.... ok,... i looked it up in the archives (was un-lazy), it's: "Stained Radiance" dvd some interesting stuff dealing w/ improv, both musically and visually...the technique the artist uses is similar to what i remember seeing of a movie back in undergrad called "picasso painting" (or something like that), picasso was painting on a see through membrane that the filmmakers shot from the back. it was interesting.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016e649da8ac6a020049ccd5dbc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i would also recommend the dvd that nels cline did w/ a visual artist (pain= ter) that came out last yr, around this time.
i can't for the life o= f me remember the name of the dvd (title) or the name of the artist he work= s w/
but the dvd is 2 performances of nels creating music/music backdrop to the = artist creating a work in front of an audience.
the sounds that nels com= es up w/ are most inspiring...he uses is EH 16ddl and korg kaoss pad a lot = in it...
and it really shows the artist....
ok,... i looked it up in the archives= (was un-lazy), it's: "Stained Radiance" dvd

some inte= resting stuff dealing w/ improv, both musically and visually...the techniqu= e the artist uses is similar to
what i remember seeing of a movie back in undergrad called "picasso pa= inting" (or something like that), picasso was painting on
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--0016e649da8ac6a020049ccd5dbc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:29:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07CE5183474; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=UoM31qY_AAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=20LupYWxAAAA:8 a=IvLPGCX5UozULhzZkzYA:9 a=WrdZlYgKoX_fbUKgX14A:7 a=KvDG0Zj6LNC3C8JyvcaXRidZhCYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=F5RSWH3sUPcA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:29:46 -0800 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Per, The actual product I bought and use is at: = It does exactly as you describe and will accept foot switches as well =20= as CV pedals. You can even use more than one of these devices on a USB hub to =20 multiply all the switch and CV ports. I bought 2, but I gave one to Jeff Kaiser. It works quite well. Best, Ted On Feb 21, 2011, at 7:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:47 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn =20 > wrote: >> just a USB hub that accepts 4 EV-5 plugs directly. > > That might be an incredibly useful thing, Ted! I use the Gordius > Little Giant 2 for that; can handle four EV-5 or two EV-5 and two > extra analog switches (as I keep mine configured). > >> > > Interesting site! I've been buying stuff from Bugbrand > http://www.bugbrand.co.uk/ before and didn't know about Eowave. Until > now. Looking for a X/Y touch pad for foot control (think "iPad > Carpet"). > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:37:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEA85183465; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <4D613A48.1070607@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Before we Looped Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:37:35 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9FFCC7357C97-898-6E9C8@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/lUn8L9g2xxw this was wonderful!.....20 years ago, it sounded soooooo today..... how do i get a tea shirt???????? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:41:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 296D718347C; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SDo/pR/MYFFv/sZr/Zx5ubELsAzEtLuU1TEbXIQtVZU=; b=S5B7jtvVFxHCCItKzruQlcHc+OzsWWmTcGJrtVo/E0sPAdFAJbQ7pV5YdxpUhpdq+u 81Tv/s+WS1CJrKoekn5w91r3creEWTOK7bIexny2rimjZz5cmyqdtbBvmQpcgo/Xk4NP 0Zl+ci8XF0jcznQo9HLJQO+LWNZiWiEoiorzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j42fzaM3zNTHGnIgoqhKlyGCnoKL/4MRRq1udi7qGtRKvy+VCQJzpEux1jtPFBZod1 sMYz8WuTXAdLNlxTnn6LM3PdOW5fDmLeXJfpCh7kRkqEj8M7t20R/RCO/NusshVXXHg5 SyeSjI+XGpfi2XqxXMrAxZQIPl+x3Dm3O/KOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD9FFCC7357C97-898-6E9C8@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <4D613A48.1070607@cruzio.com> <8CD9FFCC7357C97-898-6E9C8@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:41:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before we Looped From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:41:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:37 PM, wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe#p/a/u/0/lUn8L9g2xxw > > > this was wonderful!.....20 years ago, it sounded soooooo today..... > how do i get a tea shirt???????? Must be 'cause 20 years ago is the new yesterday. Per ;-) I actually own a "tea shirt" from Asana! The tea shop in Santa Cruz right across the square where the looping festival happened. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:42:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A72B183488; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kkLYCN6iRzPA94pNafAcNytWu6M8bmem8bSnHDV8rsc=; b=wo+Adlg4YdGHUKIbVFSLrwMFhqxythDbMvQoI9l3TuW3RP3NMlwUwbp/2NnEKc97Yk yi+TP3l/IGxksJv/C3wdW974V1orUKTujpJ5pH/fbxMYDulSUZU43n5pAFwV1YP3pYlB 5CU1ke4dQaa7b4k5gHbdAanGR8ATA7iQtNcAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Gjc0M7bbov/eUW3aX0VsYxV+kVxw3ehUo42SdYnYSZxNlopukf97HOVdsKJpQi7MOj nzK3iNRFuBLdWGpEGb17aTedhU53+WWVhmYCYlIuZOtm4PMh/NSFhjHW6ZKfJbrdjk0w 8WD3hyCHud7SotUd5i2mUQ2gs72srjBIg7q58= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:42:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: before we looped From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364162a90a0277049ccd8c79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:42:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016364162a90a0277049ccd8c79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have no photos of me playing, was never in a band, no recordings... started writing songs in 97-98 (acoustic/singer songwriter stuff), they used to be on the old mp3.com page, which then got removed, so i've never put the stuff back up...it's been probably 4 yrs since i've played my acoustics w/ any dedication... from 91-01, my main setup was: steinberger gl3t-rat pedal-yamaha delay-50 watt amp.... sometimes i would set the delay to the 1.2 sec of delay (the max) and mess w/ making it long and short, it worked pretty cool, i was probably trying to mimic the tommy bolin echoplex stuff (steve stevens would probably be the recent touchstone from the 80s w/ billy idol). when i bought the pedal, the guy i bought it from, he demo'd what it could do and he did some little loop thing and would play some bluesy riffs inbetween--he was a really good guitar player, coming out of the roy buchanan school of the 60s/70s...it had a sample mode also, i never used that. my other pedals i had was an old ibanez phase tone pedal and an ibanez chorus (i'd make extreme noises w/ the chorus). that's all i had, the thing w/ it, was that i only had 2 power cords to power the pedals at once, i was too poor to get any more.... i had dreamed of the rack mulit-units (digitech gsp or dsp units) that were the rage in the 90s, but they were WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for me. the steinberger purchase was huge for me.... i think i discovered the L-D.com site on accident, shortly after that read about the digitech rp100 unit (in GP mag), had some $$ left over from the sale of my steinberger & bought a parker nitefly, so bought the rp100 based on the reviews and went to town. man i messed w/ the 2 sec of delay the rp100 had, like CRAZY.... after i got the rp100 and started buying the rack stuff cheap from the 90s (sort of miss the old digitech dsp256xl), i sold my pedals.... i really do miss the RAT pedal, i had the white lettering one from the 80s. should have kept that one....oh well.... onward & upward as they say.... happy looping. s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016364162a90a0277049ccd8c79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have no photos of me playing, was never in a band, no recordings...
st= arted writing songs in 97-98 (acoustic/singer songwriter stuff), they used = to be on the old mp3.com page, which then go= t removed,
so i've never put the stuff back up...it's been probably 4 yrs sinc= e i've played my acoustics w/ any dedication...

from 91-01, my m= ain setup was: steinberger gl3t-rat pedal-yamaha delay-50 watt amp....
sometimes i would set the delay to the 1.2 sec of delay (the max) and mess = w/ making it long and short, it worked pretty cool, i was probably tryingto mimic the tommy bolin=A0 echoplex stuff (steve stevens would probably = be the recent touchstone from the 80s w/ billy idol).
when i bought the pedal, the guy i bought it from, he demo'd what it co= uld do and he did some little loop thing and would play some bluesy riffsinbetween--he was a really good guitar player, coming out of the roy buch= anan school of the 60s/70s...it had a sample mode also, i never used that.<= br>
my other pedals i had was an old ibanez phase tone pedal and an ibanez = chorus (i'd make extreme noises w/ the chorus).
that's all i had= , the thing w/ it, was that i only had 2 power cords to power the pedals at= once, i was too poor to get any more....

i had dreamed of the rack mulit-units (digitech gsp or dsp units) that = were the rage in the 90s, but they were WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for me.
the st= einberger purchase was huge for me....
i think i discovered the L-D.com = site on accident, shortly after that read about the digitech rp100 unit (in= GP mag), had some $$ left over from the
sale of my steinberger & bought a parker nitefly, so bought the rp100 b= ased on the reviews and went to town. man i messed w/ the 2 sec of delaythe rp100 had, like CRAZY....

after i got the rp100 and started buy= ing the rack stuff cheap from the 90s (sort of miss the old digitech dsp256= xl), i sold my pedals....
i really do miss the RAT pedal, i had the white lettering one from the 80s.= should have kept that one....oh well....
onward & upward as they sa= y....
happy looping.
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
--0016364162a90a0277049ccd8c79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:46:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405ED183496; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> <4D6195DD.5010505@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Before we Looped Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:46:35 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D6195DD.5010505@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9FFE0955360A-898-6EC5C@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) andy butler sez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dg6ZONZ_b7zs=C2=A0 =C2=A0 wow!.....i missed these the first time =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 16:58:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5A2218349E; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:58:22 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:58:36 +0000 (UTC) i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day, sad=20 sad sad..... what is nice about them, you don't need your hands to play them..... i use my guitar neck, or just step into the "BEAM" with my body..... i wish i had a dozen of each.....:) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 18:01:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3678D183474; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 408711732/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AosCAGY3Yk0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmBS9G4xyhV4EjBODLw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,201,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="408711732" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:00:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Loop windowing video Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D62A84F.26432.1E8196E@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110221-0, 21/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <0yRHDC.A.nyG.whqYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:01:20 +0000 (UTC) I've made a cheap & cheerful vid demonstrating loop windowing on the EDP. Loud cheers for Andy Butler who patiently taught me how to achieve this effect! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijGDH3qr9dQ All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 18:10:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97330183474; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3kk9U9tMfe6LylLSEVA4PwZ8QRrPSqqq+BSEY281anc=; b=HxgNR7IC7WzoCHhbh1Q4JDYr17Gg+KXS4ilFXzQC4kjirIlKTXaLyC41FskoUtJ8DV gdpyEOa5/earG7HtruFrQFUU8z9f/RME/Je7nhycFMeHJp2sIHnzoKtA9oXqdbGGBriG DSaAR409wL+iHijTxCK/NYtvPK0Iukfk7OAUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=adLpL6ua7m/MOKWop1reKoy0c4Kmln45sbWbEVMMu8SGzSDbhmqgQ13uQPndUwN8Ck sGvW3UugkdSb0GVhXY9Cy2uEaFuUlojd2XJ9DT47eWwAnyeMeYlNUwRB/h0XO2210MzC WInHTJi2zG466IyPf82F0x2ewTkTUEds1Z5Hg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CD9FFE0955360A-898-6EC5C@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <28987ACF-D451-46EA-B8FD-0751540BB88C@baymoon.com> <4D6195DD.5010505@tiscali.co.uk> <8CD9FFE0955360A-898-6EC5C@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:10:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Before we Looped From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:10:34 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:46 PM, wrote: > andy butler sez: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZONZ_b7zs > Interviewer: "Isn't it confusing for the audience with all this cutting up?" Andy: "Yes - and we love that!" Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 18:49:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80CB183464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AfP0TY49fJlPbd7q0Fd+7kebkw31JPsBaEOisbT0Gv8=; b=IUvQuU1kLe1w/Gco5cO6AirqiDNq2dti9U+RuzNRRBc6iPJT82OIAlSm3Z7GCXPhZ9 ny4rpjUexqaRoCLpY6kYfYanUp/+DLTqVw58pAjS3bN7idnfKxXP6RSYBTUXmCHNYvWS sAF3vxclqm07bIaDRuZFy3bCoJWOLRp4Bp278= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=J9ZnMWk9rtNTs+5HEIKQX9yM5l8RF/IFY8dS/mEfzedXbpjRs9/DYitsKgUBzZN3rV 2fxROlb/dMrBPcNi5Zr47nLl00q64HeTmENpQUpFyCHts3HAGz1H9sjBy3GDBKCoUizR AyemtPC0drRKXvYLwXvLjhMo8nK0+08gWu5dQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:49:22 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Software Looping Technique Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I'm afraid this may be one of the basic available features in software, but I'm having a hard time getting my head around setting things up in that world so I'm asking the question: Is there a way to establish a longish loop (say, 10 seconds plus) and then have it play back in randomly sampled bits (say a window of 1/10th of the original loop, or 1 second increments). I would like ideally to be able to create a long loop, then start it playing this way (either by pre-determined lengths or determined on the fly) and then be able to select one of those sample btis to continue as the only loop playing (with the ability to either discard the original loop and carry on with this bit, or release it and go back to either the random looping bits, or the original long loop. Does that make sense and is it doable in something like Mobius or any other program that people are aware of? Thanks, Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:00:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B931A183464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jpoHDX7YLOv0RPoS7Au+Je8iA7fcMyu2OkXcxGEfmGU=; b=RLQ7qMvjo8VcHBFrvjfq6sh78dXy1D6zoEBbS/I5I5Fd0yjZ3myH4rRDHoi9xt6zCQ hdhHzdFZSfN5wPSAuResfXlFsXQoIcF4y+GombM2nXHnnN+U0j0EAtvSRW/c5DTzIaRl hguOZRRuYI0I9nyBLzxU1OyRofBVhb6nHcEXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IJo/x9fJfxxcpZYm3dwgUBt41fbi6CLO0r1WWVbCp65/jFUWiXvWMAZJ1aVcnESlrS KuJ+ITbQIQIdfAsiInLWQoN3J12Oql7GijVe3F84UkTo6gaZZ50cw3J7JTDi+RVJchSD QpynOV7WcNDeutQxZuGwRRrnoKyYulCfw9G90= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:00:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Software Looping Technique Question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, Seems like an accurate description of the Shuffle function in Mobius. As default Mobius offers four different takes on Shuffle, which you chose as a global preference before you start playing. You may also create scripts for other ways of Shuffling loop slices around on the fly. In combination with Shuffle you may also want to use Undo and Redo, just be sure to set unlimited or at least a high number of Undo levels as your global preference. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hello, > > I'm afraid this may be one of the basic available features in > software, but I'm having a hard time getting my head around setting > things up in that world so I'm asking the question: > > Is there a way to establish a longish loop (say, 10 seconds plus) and > then have it play back in randomly sampled bits (say a window of > 1/10th of the original loop, or 1 second increments). =C2=A0I would like > ideally to be able to create a long loop, then start it playing this > way (either by pre-determined lengths or determined on the fly) and > then be able to select one of those sample btis to continue as the > only loop playing (with the ability to either discard the original > loop and carry on with this bit, or release it and go back to either > the random looping bits, or the original long loop. > > Does that make sense and is it doable in something like Mobius or any > other program that people are aware of? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision:=C2=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:05:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23C79183464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 485388.96093.bm@omp1048.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298315132; bh=mdOJbE5OYb43YuiNPLydq3/XOiuQ11IugkX2IMSjMhE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W7ufb1rK9ZUMl2BthDYttQboTnRRcU4dCO+zfKzfZNlW2Dj9ekTefCZZFHfPg0HjFaVRFgUZhmTWuPEkxEwTb/znqWueVbGK9c3UHIENJHB1fQruzPLt2I5+lis6PWQfw9KZBX4jr8+GauF2Vx+OfAxamqpbE65kYLdpAjGxVwM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hODuYN4CXeZoAC1kFEJmMViao8K4qk9NFChdv1MJYI6lDzLF9wTMeDEXYqvrdYmSzvFsRyIAbPx39annTxPDebjpbDDA1f2xzrNrYcRqMc7RihBqowxpHvI8m+8Kscog0qsVsBF1uOhsCWChuRll7DFdYk57hODcsX2dyoRIKaI=; Message-ID: <792711.71436.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Wi4y9mIVM1mmPxqGpCFHaVeKqAnSBYmaH2LGbgiwncwYQPh n0gHNGNc7d4RoBt6ybf91guHd7cGP_ywuHilPeiATk6zGv97qzv5FtgUb5tE v0jyyPWr9hiWFKPnQoCCwd7i5egne22ibb2lj53AJBBPsVk3H9AGeDJRusAM ZECC9aAilHgsClXGRCzyKzeiB3Ggrz_QMjVLLroPnUErlCEEvJPWQx5QB3qO lRirRSbLWUSbkIk0cwwvBFGhjgs02oStmioxa4JOjEkWpE.RWbvAbCc4DXvM CddWuhCE_OVxBkLcDEOu40g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:05:32 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-119913398-1298315132=:71436" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:05:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-119913398-1298315132=:71436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted,=0A=0AI am aware of this system, even met one of the guys who developpe= d it. Will look =0Ainto it again. Have some resistance to the do it yoursel= f approach. It is always =0Aa big investment of time and effort which I pre= fer to put into the music.=0A=0AANtony=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________= _______=0AFrom: tEd =AE KiLLiAn =0ATo: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:47:01 PM=0ASubject= : Re: New controllers=0A=0AAnthony,=0A=0AThough not a new company at all, E= oWave at has been =0Aproducing a wide variety of p= roducts like that for quite a while.=0A=0AI am using one of their devices i= n my new laptop setup, not a body controller =0Aactually, just a USB hub th= at accepts 4 EV-5 plugs directly.=0A=0ABut they do have all sorts of novel = motion-sensor-to-MIDI and =0Alight-sensor-to-MIDI and whatever-sensor-to-MI= DI systems on offer.=0A=0AIf you wanted to get yourself a jumpsuit and cove= r it in detectors and sensors =0Aof various kinds, they would have the stuf= f to make it happen.=0A=0ABut it's not cheap, mind you . . .=0A=0ABest,=0A= =0ATed=0A=0A=0AOn Feb 21, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:=0A=0A> Cu= rious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in terms Of new =0A>c= ontrollers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you hand or body = =0A>movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes or aeg= enharp.=0A> Antony=0A=0A=0A --0-119913398-1298315132=:71436 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ted,

I am aware of this system, even met= one of the guys who developped it. Will look into it again. Have some resi= stance to the do it yourself approach. It is always a big investment of tim= e and effort which I prefer to put into the music.

ANtony

From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter= .net>
To: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:47:01 PM
Subject: Re: New controllers

=0AAnthony,
Though not a new company at all, EoWave at <http://www.eowave.com/> has bee= n producing a wide variety of products like that for quite a while.<= br>
I am using one of their devices in my new laptop setup, not a body c= ontroller actually, just a USB hub that accepts 4 EV-5 plugs directly.
<= br>But they do have all sorts of novel motion-sensor-to-MIDI and light-sens= or-to-MIDI and whatever-sensor-to-MIDI systems on offer.

If you want= ed to get yourself a jumpsuit and cover it in detectors and sensors of vari= ous kinds, they would have the stuff to make it happen.

But it's not= cheap, mind you . . .

Best,

Ted


On Feb 21, 2011, = at 12:30 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:

> Curious to learn what some Of= you may have comme across in terms Of new controllers in the wireless carr= y on your body interpret you hand or body movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes or aegenharp.
> Anto= ny

=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A --0-119913398-1298315132=:71436-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:14:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2367183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 17995.72292.bm@omp1027.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298315664; bh=2g9Yoqb4ol4G17hboDduyWt/mK2kM0ezyU6DLkUJvrc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NPTOsZTZxWfS93/fNd6QugUJJw2OuuNOSLQEsjamqvbVc6j6U+G9Vy5weZW5UTlpPoPPghDEN0anR1UofSwWzxroRHaeTopF+Oram5TG5kJqGBwASIZLhNFDnWENQ8idYSdGQnJuB7rZZPL1tBUxu7+G7G6fbHnbTIXR7gVNcFs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pzyUjsbn0kEhH/p+ZGfaCMMrI/txM7qCD+u61A5trheW0GOBA2CRHGTi00zqY1kG6yY1fo6+DDHxH5oYAWtyDdwDZINMmBQlA3tkO8e2O4J6DGDi8bCs9uPa1hgjqXZvawgArSo1AmaDRq+bU2vjb4C1h6KLvjyt4e8oheUmIKQ=; Message-ID: <942827.59307.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AahjAMUVM1kYH_.X257LcnzVUPLZ_K9iprk2HQlUDfi6gPO wc8I.vHQTMtAoaHyt32nRuXQ._45FOAeAVOHiIhWNdDu4teDAg_3tkU6n1Se HBoQ9svItKfaXNypzOidkNa5WpUD29oZL7TfA3eddid0Sgh8VLHqo_S0QegR VQLyu99ewbSn0LPRhH7tfcyE1bvHaMNivdCYC5E9WhWz9OUiqh.RW77NraIW 7g6ngTtj9yy0cd57iRTlR.GFmqyj_Q0zNJtGN7aZuaVPz.web2mZUGE6qQ9m LZDHcye1wPaBbTdBy_ocM X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-777184602-1298315664=:59307" Resent-Message-ID: <_gfB3C.A.co.SmrYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:14:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-777184602-1298315664=:59307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per,=0A=0Athanks for the input. I also play stick and percussion and for th= at I use the =0AGordius BLG. I was hoping to open a new performqnce qvenue = when I sing and put =0Adown the other inbstru=F6emts. Hpw reliqble is touch= OSC?=0A=0AANtony=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per B= oysen =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASen= t: Mon, February 21, 2011 12:25:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: New controllers=0A=0AN= ot much. I did a quick check using iphone4 with TouchOSC to control=0Asome = music performance software. But I never used the shake-the-phone=0Afunction= , which is what I guess would meat your inquiry regarding=0A"interpreting h= and and body movements".=0A=0AGenerally I am very sceptic when it comes to = my own use for these kind=0Aof controllers. The reason is that I play physi= cal instrument that are=0Aextremely picky about precision in fine motor ski= lls. If I should try=0Ato shake-a-leg or squeeze-my-legs, or whatever contr= ol gesture, it=0Awould hurt the musical playing. Touch screens isn't an opt= ion either=0Afor two reasons; musicians have no free hands to touch and the= y force=0Ayou to look at them to use them, visual control is hard for a=0Am= usician. The most musician friendly controller context I've seen so=0Afar i= s the pedal floorboard. But I think it can be expanded; instead=0Aof tradit= ional expression pedals I would appreciate a 40x40 cm touch=0Apads. Like th= e SoftStep, but bigger and a lot fewer. Then I'd like a=0Akick-switch pane = to call up which two variables I want to *skate*=0A(yes, I think a nice pro= duct name for this could be "the SKATE PAD").=0AWell, I would like to still= use two traditional expression pedals;=0AI've found out that you can work = both with one foot and then have=0Apatches in the software that cross fade = them when needed.=0A=0AGreetings from Sweden=0A=0APer Boysen=0Awww.boysen.s= e=0Awww.perboysen.com=0Awww.looproom.com internet music hub=0A=0A=0A=0AOn M= on, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:= =0A> Curious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in terms Of ne= w =0A>controllers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you hand or = body =0A>movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes o= r aegenharp.=0A=0A=0A --0-777184602-1298315664=:59307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per,

thanks for the input. I also play s= tick and percussion and for that I use the Gordius BLG. I was hoping to ope= n a new performqnce qvenue when I sing and put down the other inbstru=F6emt= s. Hpw reliqble is touch OSC?

ANtony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= br>Sent: Mon, February 21,= 2011 12:25:58 PM
Subject:<= /b> Re: New controllers

=0ANot much. I did a quick check using iphone4 w= ith TouchOSC to control
some music performance software. But I never use= d the shake-the-phone
function, which is what I guess would meat your in= quiry regarding
"interpreting hand and body movements".

Generally= I am very sceptic when it comes to my own use for these kind
of control= lers. The reason is that I play physical instrument that are
extremely p= icky about precision in fine motor skills. If I should try
to shake-a-le= g or squeeze-my-legs, or whatever control gesture, it
would hurt the mus= ical playing. Touch screens isn't an option either
for two reasons; musi= cians have no free hands to touch and they force
you to look at them to = use them, visual control is hard for a
musician. The most musician frien= dly controller context I've seen so
far is the pedal floorboard. But I t= hink it can be expanded; instead
of traditional expression pedals I woul= d appreciate a 40x40 cm touch
pads. Like the SoftStep, but bigger and a lot fewer. Then I'd lik= e a
kick-switch pane to call up which two variables I want to *skate*(yes, I think a nice product name for this could be "the SKATE PAD").
W= ell, I would like to still use two traditional expression pedals;
I've f= ound out that you can work both with one foot and then have
patches in t= he software that cross fade them when needed.

Greetings from Sweden<= br>
Per Boysen
www= .boysen.se
ww= w.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Mon, Feb 21, 20= 11 at 9:30 AM, Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wr= ote:
> Curious to learn what some Of you may have comme across in ter= ms Of new controllers in the wireless carry on your body interpret you hand or body = movement variety such as Konkreet Performer on iPad or the cubes or aegenha= rp.

=0A=0A=0A
<= br>=0A=0A --0-777184602-1298315664=:59307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:16:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCA00183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IY4Ih/QI/aMc1raBCKln40rACFPII/ZUJMVcOMWDDMg=; b=GjOtYQ8GlJ/O+6sjCnMl4vn4VdzofBqQynBwe88nvysOHxh6QiDOTwgG2wsRDfNkfk 7YEWmTy8P6LRK32yWJI1V6DB+tW/UGo9vgeKfNlhLt4jyk1Y1erBTv9OlQ+38NwqqW38 vSAoEupsk3qEE77X0nFwOzKEIGE+6D1kzvKkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=hH4wO2UU63zCgUi/rphYyDeHPgwLs063yw4FvjxAN/5YPViGW6Q+C5a1tQbSqQiBGS RKSLLtzEtyMXoZAKEMOknukzXS4Tb8dYSdsRxd29pI9NczrNvC9t4BsRMOJbmrzpmE1c GxP1J6B/Pfbu6ZH03bEmeoq1brybVoTK1Xn+A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:16:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BuVTG2y0rJ7u04VAId7M2XTPUmY Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <5uozrC.A.1v.horYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Ha! You know thats weird micheal, I SWAPPED my air synth with an Air FX a few years ago, and I LOVE it... but yesterday I missed my AirSynth so much I wrote the guy to see if I could buy it back!!! Why OH Why did Alesis never expand on those things? Like Midi controller one, or a sampler one.. have you ever seen and hacking or bending pages about them, cos Ive searched and searched... could be that its just one big chip inside and nothing to fiddle with, but still I would reallyt like to change the casing to something a bit... er... slimmer.. Im so glad to see that there is always one near Enos hand recently... I wonder which patch he uses? M On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, wrote: > i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day, sad sad > sad..... > > what is nice about them, you don't need your hands to play them..... > > i use my guitar neck, or just step into the "BEAM" with my body..... > > i wish i had a dozen of each.....:) > > > -- mark francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com twitter @markfrancombe http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:18:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2E44183464; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fTVkCQKG8QGrIkioDV5ItIq9UCIYETrYjb+cEEOU/xY=; b=t8k6PKf7C7usCF13bbhlh3CKnzY48R8kF1/2OVYVYpTQN/a5blnranelqx5kWP+cMA EGZSaq/bzwz1WwQ/mVUNs1hsymuqF5WVXCsfjoQYill980XRb0NryGepRulTvOOVMOcg x/38msn1gWVk3/yEmjF4hVmXnqLVFDRT2783Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U4qyRRQJzXAEvzlxbOvh3fTVW4qPHW/PgDiESQm9n3nmpbOoo2Jsys7ZLiLV9e8NLN u/rJIIVSTQ6ZR6fl/EK8cg6jLCg8OaWyiSF9pWYmC14va+KFcRzofcv1TXOsEPgU9TY0 a2yEEFCDFahn6Ix07zFyXRqTNBlNNLXY7qZaM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <942827.59307.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <942827.59307.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Seems totally reliable. But I can't be sure since I only used it briefly. Its reliability depends on the network you run it over, so there comes an un-known factor. Per On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM, wrote: > thanks for the input. I also play stick and percussion and for that I use > the Gordius BLG. I was hoping to open a new performqnce qvenue when I sin= g > and put down the other inbstru=C3=B6emts. Hpw reliqble is touch OSC? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 19:22:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22AE2183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0kxyET5JND8l7PX1eagsAX8zJu3JqCGQIs7ACiUz23k=; b=uuHzhWOr3YjHEATBqj0pBmHXCOTRV1lf+HTnnXfUyUPbMLn+cvRxArXNamiSIHVo59 KuL2V9NGfNOljQgs2UKlow/Paf0u/e+yEPRPslR9K/ffjB68b7enPLqGk13jK5KaKyYj lQuzKAj+arsYIJr+H0pDK7UHhLnVy2m6+Ngic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qirPEA1QJ/SaHBzBU55rqPcwKGmChAi7QITuOte/g/Zl7rvN2Fh+elkuyJEdpFR2i9 rP48YJjY1pAmlaqNK0B6xqI6xjZJH3eZ8fcPNEpRCcXHs5Uq6e/9qH6BavtkoSvPOs4t WFrYH77oCS3AuKdfpZC5tah56BqwfKxhQOi/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:22:33 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:22:37 +0000 (UTC) They did have the 'air' sensor in a line of midi keyboards for a while. Don't know how well they worked or how you programmed them, but that seems a way to midi-fy them (except that's even bigger than the fx and synth box). Of course those are out of production too. Seems the word with Alesis is get the stuff new when you can because they blow through good ideas and abandon them quickly. Kevin On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > Ha! You know thats weird micheal, I SWAPPED my air synth with an Air > FX a few years ago, and I LOVE it... but yesterday I missed my > AirSynth so much I wrote the guy to see if I could buy it back!!! > Why OH Why did Alesis never expand on those things? Like Midi > controller one, or a sampler one.. have you ever seen and hacking or > bending pages about them, cos Ive searched and searched... could be > that its just one big chip inside and nothing to fiddle with, but > still I would reallyt like to change the casing to something a bit... > er... slimmer.. > Im so glad to see that there is always one near Enos hand recently... > I wonder which patch he uses? > > M > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, =A0 wrote: >> i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day, sad sad >> sad..... >> >> what is nice about them, you don't need your hands to play them..... >> >> i use my guitar neck, or just step into the "BEAM" with my body..... >> >> i wish i had a dozen of each.....:) >> >> >> > > > > -- > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:20:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09C83183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 266579.13730.bm@omp1027.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298319623; bh=mUQzgNt2zJoL8AEwYekLfjXWTHWeNoovOQtlisd+kGc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YoUbbZ4D57xdUs8ZKRcM6l6gn8Efw1lkD7hw2GuTe2gqdBBVEUCTB7AqkrTrI1Km8AQyIHfABaalVGaV85ZS/L0YlZwiKxk2P+7ZUI3wPb2FPuUWu4N3b3cncPQUWU8iog7HUP0SaPUB9bJgCwntu9+UD4VT1Cjp9KwZQeQgRhw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MjivYMcy+jk5Ggbsde0mda6+iEULVZqd3F//cLa6hUl3Fjo2nJo+pgWiz7dOeFG7hC5Lv4xTZA2KNCl04jhNQGNc86mpIC0KT1McpAHsiUMIOuOgMy6ynXJ4qM243QYTucuaJya4S5mdtfczZ15PhVz5tjkNgfGu26vH1njk4gE=; Message-ID: <144122.44372.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Pxgh10YVM1l7ntLerz99Gr3B.JAz7MZCLscxC83xyzjp5W3 SkByTfsr6ZaIKhmX736FeNpnNTk4hi.Up7N5tKVZmCsUrpyL9vqGWZ3ZhP_l qqqmugA4GxOgvVBJCI0Giw22TyZW8NkznnoLMD4gW0lGhjG1c.RGyTMn.7Q1 jc0DxzWRLoKClAsWa46mt6u5ZQrHwusDwAM.mFQ1vq1M4HdFomSAb9IuVkOp YO.BAbQguTznLNUHZ9vb9sRLZ9UqBB_GerUPJHMqmEhmWDTZ6fscCCIlk_Sb _J3NzCHoQ1Y7aXdhY_Wq_ X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <942827.59307.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-282890665-1298319622=:44372" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-282890665-1298319622=:44372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this thing goes over a wifi netoprk right? What does the interface look lik= e? =0A=0AA=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Mon,= February 21, 2011 8:18:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: New controllers=0A=0ASeems tot= ally reliable. But I can't be sure since I only used it=0Abriefly. Its reli= ability depends on the network you run it over, so=0Athere comes an un-know= n factor.=0A=0APer=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM, wrote:=0A> thanks for the input. I also play stick and percussio= n and for that I use=0A> the Gordius BLG. I was hoping to open a new perfor= mqnce qvenue when I sing=0A> and put down the other inbstru=F6emts. Hpw rel= iqble is touch OSC?=0A=0A=0A --0-282890665-1298319622=:44372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this thing goes over a wifi netoprk right? What does the interfac= e look like? 

A

From: = Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 8:18:20 PM<= br>Subject: Re: New contro= llers

=0ASeems totally reliable. But I can't be sure since I = only used it
briefly. Its reliability depends on the network you run it = over, so
there comes an un-known factor.

Per


On Mon, F= eb 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> w= rote:
> thanks for the input. I also play stick and percussion and fo= r that I use
> the Gordius BLG. I was hoping to open a new performqnc= e qvenue when I sing
> and put down the other inbstru=F6emts. Hpw rel= iqble is touch OSC?

= =0A=0A=0A

=0A=0A --0-282890665-1298319622=:44372-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:25:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2C4D183460; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 864511.67288.bm@omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298319908; bh=7NuiF/0PaIx4Fi7qPRyz8FoMhW5BKXKl6wapfYmjCrg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ly0zT6ITNl9gn4036GpNlnZCipfUKLhRKIwr9N3Q54hRyxW7VdqKmOwuECw1tY/p/QUuTXk6UVZ/d0Lk7plKvcPWpe/re4O5UGGYPEfAu7bcMvTUg/zEAeGYX2RQDbyUv1ddDduU8qy/zRkHILeti4v+Gaq4TVHGwYU6MOtlkXs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2fXXTKkzNhn8xr/vkQgpwN+CkE13jpln8NiPPRmn8/sgb5Fclpi58c6zkzg53Lpcce12wJH/aP0XfU/sDUZEY4Oa1OIQty1KqYpjOFbKxFSTaSgWhRv/fzwkF/vSyeyNL6BI/A6pdZIA7kx9858tcwGgIFAyyQI9dbWB4WNZHaQ=; Message-ID: <714589.21813.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ONIIgXEVM1n9t44z6L.VKfGWSbtH2_GEwHYvflMh4y7a2eD CmQ7yMLHku.OR9uV2SA1TxJZXkJ0ujKDm2jBSsxAeOaAD81QUEO6s9nekOsW xODu5MdCQqWFljw2HOWkzUPfFmlQS9JJ2blvEn3xMPUAGUVaiEXkmrRKjjQ_ GxaLc_YoiFzC4zgFQNt28lmlFs61Ab5dOqPDHOiozWyB9qURQjDI6c9mFwWu K_0Z59YABM01GhrSZBY_oTFRjhgDYu5J3BSWD1Xt.G1rNH09XzJjvK.PBaFf AQBYUyfhLB0fgbb41bqjP1C1nMhebZz9MqA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1686381324-1298319908=:21813" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:25:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-1686381324-1298319908=:21813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii anything out there which does the theremin thing plus MIDI? There is a Moog Theremin with CV and gate outputs. What would you use to convert the CV to MIDI in an elegant way? Antony ________________________________ From: "nemoguitt@aol.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 5:58:22 PM Subject: Re: New controllers i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day, sad sad sad..... what is nice about them, you don't need your hands to play them..... i use my guitar neck, or just step into the "BEAM" with my body..... i wish i had a dozen of each.....:) --0-1686381324-1298319908=:21813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
anything out there which does the theremin thing plus MIDI? There is a Moog Theremin with CV and gate outputs. What would you use to convert the CV to MIDI in an elegant way?

Antony

From: "nemoguitt@aol.com" <nemoguitt@aol.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 5:58:22 PM
Subject: Re: New controllers

i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day, sad sad sad.....

what is nice about them, you don't need your hands to play them.....

i use my guitar neck, or just step into the "BEAM" with my body.....

i wish i had a dozen of each.....:)



--0-1686381324-1298319908=:21813-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:28:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7792C183466; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 683026.7209.bm@omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298320091; bh=cYxMZnghOG/SqvHwgq9TJFqB+8vPCNGEpziz9q6bFJQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Hl6Y4WHUKlaRqcd4vIW7c2p6VT9hR2Bi/JvweC+XDJ9c12vxIE548QQnu0AfNRl93itSNp/3PNwjuik17pbYcHAdYxdQki0BmBf9NQgBSa7Pj7K0jXNO2RiN9rZqIdZledveeawvNbEWSO/qDEmIbIwzAW630nTM9Jg2EpTo8U0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LXbXZB1CqVWe0oUJx60ArU4y5HntdvFUgvI50RIh8lN/vGIOrcj7tIn5KnhTgH8g6HMKOEAvgaECxhs276zWmNcDjrYHrkFbaEbXLzeNKgra8kguuJAP2M67R3p5CW5bIrrT/fiZGBVkoDYOv066yEtzslzwMTqPOcs9E+Lze/Q=; Message-ID: <546721.37792.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _a0E2QAVM1mYIuO8j47d3L.kNopbyUCtNZuSrZwBrqObTGF C1V.552MR4uCzkAZeU5V66Vs_baPla5Wxa69.pJHc2B06CZuuwdUEbTT5DkO cMhCs__w1t6TUYyH.c83qsSZ7FT.BFn1yr40PxyS0Zy35doPkISRwzEa1jeM 9qq8Gr51dN9fFMLlNnrZg25oHrW70AbNqP.pl0CuVm_qRGvwgGLaPtCqYT9Q 02UkTEzINGOo8RSMwI.n6kv8GoCxaQQ3U6VarqhI3nTSddgTTMmeo9.5JGPg S48fZvQWm5Et6 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com> <08046C26-457A-4F2F-AC31-30FCCAEDB02F@charter.net> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B92FF2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B92FF2@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2147356154-1298320091=:37792" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:28:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-2147356154-1298320091=:37792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am checking it out, but I will pass on the jumping part! A ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 5:18:03 PM Subject: RE: New controllers Ted writed: If you wanted to get yourself a jumpsuit and cover it in detectors and sensors of various kinds, they would have the stuff to make it happen. I remember back prob about 1990 plus or minus, Fleetwood Mac was touring again with Chrity McVie and Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood jumped off the drum riser and had this jumpsuit on with all kinds of sensors and did a killer drum solo, was quite new and exciting at the time!!! Sure it wasn't wireless back in that time though. Andy o --0-2147356154-1298320091=:37792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am checking it out, but I will pass on the jumping part!

A

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 5:18:03 PM
Subject: RE: New controllers

Ted writed:

If you wanted to get yourself a jumpsuit and cover it in detectors and 
sensors of various kinds, they would have the stuff to make it happen.


I remember back prob about 1990 plus or minus, Fleetwood Mac was touring
again with Chrity McVie and Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood jumped off
the drum riser and had this jumpsuit on with all kinds of sensors and
did a killer drum solo, was quite new and exciting at the time!!! Sure
it wasn't wireless back in that time though.


Andy o


--0-2147356154-1298320091=:37792-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:39:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B7A5183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:39:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, just posted this cool looping video with a melodica he just bought. It made my morning to see and listen to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng When Jefroen left the looping festival, he left my wife and I a balloon from his performance. It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for four months in our kitchen, a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:44:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EE3183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_95614c51-275d-4b02-9d4a-f421d80e2a7b_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.229] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: New controllers Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:44:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <728967.82823.qm@web32502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <383D9F9E-976B-412C-A2F3-559898CB3EC6@yahoo.com>,<8CD9FFFAE6B6330-898-6EEB2@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2011 20:44:19.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C924370:01CBD208] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:44:21 +0000 (UTC) --_95614c51-275d-4b02-9d4a-f421d80e2a7b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe you could use a pitch/volume to midi patch to convert the output of t= he airfx to whatever you like... G > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Mon=2C 21 Feb 2011 20:16:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: New controllers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Ha! You know thats weird micheal=2C I SWAPPED my air synth with an Air > FX a few years ago=2C and I LOVE it... but yesterday I missed my > AirSynth so much I wrote the guy to see if I could buy it back!!! > Why OH Why did Alesis never expand on those things? Like Midi > controller one=2C or a sampler one.. have you ever seen and hacking or > bending pages about them=2C cos Ive searched and searched... could be > that its just one big chip inside and nothing to fiddle with=2C but > still I would reallyt like to change the casing to something a bit... > er... slimmer.. > Im so glad to see that there is always one near Enos hand recently... > I wonder which patch he uses? >=20 > M >=20 > On Mon=2C Feb 21=2C 2011 at 5:58 PM=2C wrote: > > i still love my alesis air fx.....i miss my air synth every day=2C sad = sad > > sad..... > > > > what is nice about them=2C you don't need your hands to play them..... > > > > i use my guitar neck=2C or just step into the "BEAM" with my body..... > > > > i wish i had a dozen of each.....:) > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mark francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > twitter @markfrancombe > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no >=20 = --_95614c51-275d-4b02-9d4a-f421d80e2a7b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe you could use a pitch/volume to midi patch to convert the output of t= he airfx to whatever you like...

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>=3B From: mark@markfran= combe.com
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 21 Feb 2011 20:16:29 +0100
>=3B Subje= ct: Re: New controllers
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
>=3B Ha! You know thats weird micheal=2C I SWAPPED my air sy= nth with an Air
>=3B FX a few years ago=2C and I LOVE it... but yester= day I missed my
>=3B AirSynth so much I wrote the guy to see if I coul= d buy it back!!!
>=3B Why OH Why did Alesis never expand on those thin= gs? Like Midi
>=3B controller one=2C or a sampler one.. have you ever = seen and hacking or
>=3B bending pages about them=2C cos Ive searched = and searched... could be
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= --_95614c51-275d-4b02-9d4a-f421d80e2a7b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 20:52:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E589183465; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-21_07:2011-02-21,2011-02-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102210106 Subject: Re: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:51:52 -0800 Message-id: <9D1C8F16-A6A8-4399-90D1-34DFA555B438@mac.com> References: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:52:26 +0000 (UTC) This is sooooo fckn great!@ love this. d On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, just posted this cool looping video > with a melodica he just bought. > > It made my morning to see and listen to it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng > > When Jefroen left the looping festival, he left my wife and I a balloon from his performance. > It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for four months in our kitchen, > a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz. > > Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 21:14:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4778618345F; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uzFXWHcZFvHMj1EulNqcM1O+KynouLtz8nVohwh6HYE=; b=XljUmLzvuB3XdpMKW6SSKuCFAaMG2cdjkzIkeDGFcJmmCryxYN7JhZd5+P0S8cAw7J vsinazm/jC+/UXu3UuHdQ1TE2+zX0NSK1Na43ACNK6KHKazA9EQ73sqgGSJmuSKUUYDs 2iBqX8yQDa6RO2nipF0U6kGp4YvFMVLBbgJbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RbhAIuHaUlqaasYWJoWcoOg5Gu2L3Xm10uP8718N4gs8MgGd8Wx+SG7krkPKrKU3F3 0EvP1GIkhhHqY8k4kJzknnSGDJ9ESkQOSZnf2p7p30A/jNNcXdx+yk3vutxoPjbJOpH5 zyf+Ixt6xwjU5w/6wZvBB9XQVJmnAX5RmRnw8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:14:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:14:35 +0000 (UTC) uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html the scary part is that is not that far fetched any thoughts? Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 21:18:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F8BD183457; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop References: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-40770335"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <9ABEDA77-04ED-4FCE-8E9A-970E853EED5C@1800dialword.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:17:13 -0500 Thread-Topic: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop Thread-Index: AcvSDMugFEmO9L9cR56glN6sYORiVw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2011 21:18:00.0754 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1908120:01CBD20C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:18:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-40770335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gosh, awesome!!! Get that dude some orange paint!!! Abdy o On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, just posted this cool looping video > with a melodica he just bought. > > It made my morning to see and listen to it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng > > When Jefroen left the looping festival, he left my wife and I a balloon > from his performance. > It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for > four months in our kitchen, > a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz. > > Rick Walker > --Apple-Mail-5-40770335 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Gosh, awesome!!! Get that dude some orange paint!!!

Abdy o



On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich,  just posted this cool looping video
with a melodica he just bought.

It made my morning to see and listen to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng

When Jefroen left the looping festival,  he left my wife and I a balloon
from his performance.
It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for
four months in our kitchen,
a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz.

Rick Walker

--Apple-Mail-5-40770335-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 21:48:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32B7918345A; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=36LMxuyR1rMJJK5tSHXr5kbhMA+y8G46btsa7+nhNmM=; b=B29ZidBpYehbbgRtXIjohJ9IFBJDMSs+X0RTBB6ES6M3DL5wYtwHMzkd81Fftplq98 xLxPpxxWlqer37n6CMOCcXiyYzVkBDcDGj4MUzRqs7e913iX3i+eqBkwRSjqOxeCSeZw 0OwDrq0qZybz8CsnUOE8GY3YqPBBXXzVDFfiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=nITYxswZrwCpa5BLDG4u1+yrYz/VqQn2DRPTMnfMqnlRev6uNbb0CvOTjYJgNicHyp 1mLwdoTjtKuZBcwAh1xjhm5c5cEzgQVf2BouwC9pxi0TNUQJqklhqTt/qVfuQKi6Bwo/ wFpLMlA55GW9Je3RwBLLHEp3Gi3zLe52bvgGA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:48:28 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7E9E28D9-DCC4-46C7-8354-9AA0F98FCE60@gmail.com> References: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <68FQeD.A.L7E.v2tYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Haha, awesome. That definitely brightens your day! -Todd Matthews On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, just posted this cool looping video > with a melodica he just bought. > > It made my morning to see and listen to it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 21:52:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A95418345F; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xxecL8Lt1SwD+M7yhifYe4AUUQbA/9QzowWLwAgJdDU=; b=eS1puv3TQ0mEDJGiyBqmzDmQFET7ycF5wVLNnvxmayJI13wFkdBy9oolOXC4wY5QEI /C4fjA1VZT8mUK2quObOT1pF7e6b42n4X0UOEbZn0rHE0CFO0KAb8hA4S/W3cQrUxWHr hYJ+SpNqwYIsWhA23ZBcl+YrubLpZ+Z248C5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gFObieLP0+H1npYId1Yva57dviQlsQjv0aldxvLabJ5ZG1mpO9YVaIOJFk7+DJuloX lQgl/j2nOhKi76X/tl8by2h7BOPt7COsQMtr7IvxZ6qCuuv3RlQewuzKZcIUbUlz9k95 pPf3HITF0oFHIUycP2a/9DIrp3kjDaDL0bFOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6xuDqB.A.GFF.36tYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:52:55 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... > > http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html > > the scary part is that is not that far fetched > any thoughts? Highly interesting! According to that article I must be a Singularitarian ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 22:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48151183478; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jo8yc3jshDCBuu3Q+XCSNvx2HicH/QSC2k/ly/tPdNY=; b=i0o1WYVOxE8Lxm2eI72mOWu0ThnQHdEHNC1gPbCKS695b34MTS6olj10Stu54u5WN8 7PW0npA2OW2pA56PsJ7lEUOXWHWrkA1k7EsZZRRh71XlWwQQhWTcx1PRC8mI81ZyANhK dl489m+rpgExvmcjD65hO1auEAhdxGuFA011k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=INJkV1CXXnyOwJSTd7zssFlqhvZhi0tCD6/FXUifJdWr+Y3cXCmPOCQMdQeQCmUglG Po3R7imnRpBOsTG2DtiELy2QmQeQo0Wqm9EOnu99vrdA5KIgOoyjxIlDqcTAWNdulOkt ldQNCK2IfltaoeZWjB0/lmq2osGCHPSB9l1To= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> References: <4D62CD67.4060109@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:31:05 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Jeroen Elferrich's latest loop From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Rick Walker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2e27641b32049cd26b65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:31:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2e27641b32049cd26b65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Rick! That really is cool! On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, just posted this cool looping video > with a melodica he just bought. > > It made my morning to see and listen to it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcAaEOm8Ng > > When Jefroen left the looping festival, he left my wife and I a balloon > from his performance. > It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for four > months in our kitchen, > a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz. > > Rick Walker > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0016364d2e27641b32049cd26b65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rick! That really is cool!

On Mon,= Feb 21, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Mr. Creativity, Jeroen Elferrich, =A0just posted this cool looping video with a melodica he just bought.

It made my morning to see and listen to it.

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_OcAaEOm8Ng

When Jefroen left the looping festival, =A0he left my wife and I a balloon = from his performance.
It finally ran out of air just recently.........it stayed inflated for four= months in our kitchen,
a wonderful and visceral reminder of his creative stay here in Santa Cruz.<= br>
Rick Walker




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--0016364d2e27641b32049cd26b65-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 22:34:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF47A18345F; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 660140.92372.bm@omp1013.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=ADgP2UOZiWq/AfksodFNkOLfYvHDMYmP+/HTYrTmsrVgrQt3nXCNXbDTK2va/gqm2/q44VC2llodSmlmUlAQ+WgvJSw2iur36VwtuUxzCvxeCVR/AB1eaYm+xSTib4LHftxidFFfVZUK+4fdKV9BNHxZzf3j6T5lF8ZSNMqBROE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298327656; bh=7xYLWp92/Vgc2h6bGM5aVoNYM+nSPKEJyauS2ibEzl4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=IJLZ5GsVypL4mIEomhcsAKgZsjXglibkBa0uPtkjYKL9lZF/E3aDG+s4S2RaJLfx4FxGvfG5qOW8KnNdgOqq+s1yMHIM8OnGInpO9Z/EwGHrjljXxbBB/NSVFoz7jL6yWzK2dTgPRB0tsOmK/ElxEixWsoicvA4WTnHf+tpsG7I= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: StAkuBcVM1kXIxk2WspQp_1W5.1YZ.emZCyqv31TW1LmfwN .2myeKUxBhbotIQlKk242VS4DL1Eme1X3Vb9BQGTSD4ErudVbuGGV0ia08SB IwyVcsEQvamvB.wW7SjNa9u6TeOreuOuBmGusa5gVo2X4WGBIcUozEoJkRTi s7fpEZKG0ymmGCMmPWXhyoh0tOYItkQo2MevgdnTpan9pvjTJcdsgDBy46uK 27732X0qt__QfHcgffUThQ3MXBMaOWXeF8f7CpN.dV9pnqZ9AhAqTCWoDQiC bluebe8Sx X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <275BA2FA-A5D4-4F93-9DC5-4E12FE19111D@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53-45387451 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Our friend Georgina Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:34:10 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:34:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-53-45387451 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Is looping streaming now http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-looping-gregorian- minimal#utm_campaign=twitter.com&utm_source=897152&utm_medium=social Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-53-45387451 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Is looping streaming now 

--Apple-Mail-53-45387451-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 22:45:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED02118345A; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iV4NKCUna3uo4eM1dLq91Ia0rTBfTY474M8U9f6gpu4=; b=aQ87y3F+rMwZYlj/WCz3LewLfZ6PdOppq0EmuLxdrRVzEGAeOFxtP1KZIfeLX3mGFD 6mivtMyalKAm8WxyG8kYZeaRKDZWHBTs/rNhcC7N1z0GncrOpk52OCeEIZsa499eS3X/ vP70PWmz6CElAO0B8qXuC7hpniPgXLLOxxtbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QetmRd3jvPzInNcAQaOOnnGOBCRHJGgq4k05EybqMAzAn+j6bpa2hDntbCTNyqTkyV V2XFN+/1O3Do3ZIQ4sLc4W0GkgQBwY8X6W0GJ658EsQ7XKm2/zQRVK74AklkX+Ey55Fn PhcurZor4Y5UWvF8/aQlVXX96SOkxw/J9rh5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:45:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8b8815f9c3049cd29fb5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:45:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8b8815f9c3049cd29fb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... xD 2011/2/21 Per Boysen > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > > uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... > > > > http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html > > > > the scary part is that is not that far fetched > > any thoughts? > > > Highly interesting! According to that article I must be a Singularitarian > ;-) > > Per > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --0016363b8b8815f9c3049cd29fb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks th= at reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... xD

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2011/2/21 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Louie A= ngulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.= com> wrote:
> uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now...
>
> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,20481= 38,00.html
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> the scary part is that is not that far fetched
> any thoughts?


Highly interesting! According to that article I must be a Singu= laritarian ;-)

Per




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--0016363b8b8815f9c3049cd29fb5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 22:56:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B701918345F; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3QTdg9++FSxZ0/yF6x2nUw0U3kiqq04GMMEojOIzqGs=; b=aX2iuIx+v/OBJWCgLg1t1Ut9QkhJcvwnTywD42k7poNasvYGL5cJImqlNTMZ+e/uaX aHPEXnYKxZR2UXzIrUoLa+1YDolmQBic2fHeZuc6qqYwzjdiil+Ldwo1WfBXQya2+/EL smUnSRBPuvSP/FrsvpF6C+SVZqllH9LrElW+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lf7VmgGDeiRRW490aKqdOfkGHeHx5ruOLNhoorjV7/RGAlX25nZJTGvhw7upHKch69 Ir2w5zkjX8xtNlxc1sNOZvyvPRzsmsWN/YHm/3obFdWcYrWUaUu1d4cMBxfvwpH1gEru YkhteKrciFTuIuvZmHy6l0y8O9ks7PPwYDzRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:56:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Software Looping Technique Question From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per, I'll go read my manuals a bit more closely and come back with a tougher question next time :-) Kevin On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Seems like an accurate description of the Shuffle function in Mobius. > As default Mobius offers four different takes on Shuffle, which you > chose as a global preference before you start playing. You may also > create scripts for other ways of Shuffling loop slices around on the > fly. In combination with Shuffle you may also want to use Undo and > Redo, just be sure to set unlimited or at least a high number of Undo > levels as your global preference. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm afraid this may be one of the basic available features in >> software, but I'm having a hard time getting my head around setting >> things up in that world so I'm asking the question: >> >> Is there a way to establish a longish loop (say, 10 seconds plus) and >> then have it play back in randomly sampled bits (say a window of >> 1/10th of the original loop, or 1 second increments). =A0I would like >> ideally to be able to create a long loop, then start it playing this >> way (either by pre-determined lengths or determined on the fly) and >> then be able to select one of those sample btis to continue as the >> only loop playing (with the ability to either discard the original >> loop and carry on with this bit, or release it and go back to either >> the random looping bits, or the original long loop. >> >> Does that make sense and is it doable in something like Mobius or any >> other program that people are aware of? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:07:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 187D1183473; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_/6lB+xJXU42OIC5hI8o6gA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-21_08:2011-02-21,2011-02-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102210130 Message-id: <892B7BC8E7BA433BABB47BD99718F8B2@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:07:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_/6lB+xJXU42OIC5hI8o6gA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It's not reverse engineering as a factor. It's the ability to evolve the artificial brain through programming and at a faster rate than humans can. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... xD 2011/2/21 Per Boysen On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... > > http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html > > the scary part is that is not that far fetched > any thoughts? Highly interesting! According to that article I must be a Singularitarian ;-) Per -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --Boundary_(ID_/6lB+xJXU42OIC5hI8o6gA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
It's not reverse engineering as a factor.  It's the ability to evolve the artificial brain through programming and at a faster rate than humans can.
 
t
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Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... xD

2011/2/21 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now...
>
> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html
>
> the scary part is that is not that far fetched
> any thoughts?


Highly interesting! According to that article I must be a Singularitarian ;-)

Per




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--Boundary_(ID_/6lB+xJXU42OIC5hI8o6gA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:07:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6D3918347C; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uADmgVPhHwghpeC7PrUM8Wmah7fzZUDl2uW5QWVO05s=; b=P/tRJO1qXuDpxcpk0OqRI1CRhOneBPthzAqz+319VUNKfdbsHymNgJCJhR4jFeegy3 nPDF8YI42zTzwqJSOR4NePYDVfJD85jwna9g7DYYlm3MB8yzZLOrVif5PcNgrI9O+m6K zGtdlzDb7D/HOQVxh0BkH1+rC7k+vQXq5FSuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Nih7v3glPOQFiwbjHVpB90ltlRFTh/+PYWoHTIly7Bi/uWyMvMkXdO4Zafcr9+ZtPT FbmjxaLEHHkPC/LJUAxMQPq77ec6bXSt1kGWZZXeJ+l9Ug7bWprIsvijkrTkihlNUO3i EsuW/mUm9x/zT65hflm32Pcp2Cc8x9bMVt4II= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:07:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:07:46 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that > reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... Reverse engineering the human brain is just the starting point. Kurzweil is assuming that when knowing how the brain works humans can kick off the "intelligence explosion" by creating creative machines that will take over and speed up the development process further, beyond the speed humans can keep up with. I don't think the article was scary. The journalist left out the most frightening of these discussions; the inevitable danger of nanotechnology. According to this view medecine in a near future will be forced to start using nano sonds to simply make people stay alive as germs become resistent to antibiotica. Microscopic nano sonds will first be launched inside patients to cure them by semi intelligent behavior not much different than how our biological defense system works. As nanotechnology gets more advanced and as environment related deceases spread around the biosphere it will become necessary to implement fully adaptable and self developing super nano robots into nature "to clean up", so we can keep on living on the planet. Then the genie is out of the bottle, evolution of tech based life has started. Sooner or later this new life will have to protect itself against the threat from humans. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:35:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21EA9183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:35:25 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33222-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA0372599CA63-898-72F51@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:35:36 +0000 (UTC) per sez: this new life will have to protect itself against thethreat from humans. i think this was called something like GREY GOO, whatever, it was a=20 great name..... and the end of us! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:36:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37C16183462; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PAhNJlBvu9TKXtXyU90JQdGD54/xXJBTZQ/DrQYNXwc=; b=Wc6bZjkC0a4PfA/DPQM8h7IFFAfLqU4wH01+Rx8J6bjAZS07y3YE4NiAcilKw52o0W NYN+Os6bqaZ5K5g6iytiDZn1B6jhcwcp7pL4CNCNMdta29wqfrUvmvh8YU69Dg+01JKf GKKyuV4PSp8VIBKE96MKPv2jUhZsoYAOZpC5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yHlJnwIzIHc5uZ9Pb6Zyp+VM7eHEXAMS8+4wpWUdf/tbhD/SpTGOXhZXrcIZf9+R6H svWlC0kfeV9MIuw2EJwyzAjLKKaEsqdJ8Zf5S9x/4QAqRfJ0txcD2RR5enWScnFu65MZ +B4dC2/f9iGkKSDN19BCLdtR5FK92WyjrG8Ww= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:36:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6041d660bb049cd35687 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:36:56 +0000 (UTC) --0022152d6041d660bb049cd35687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the human mind. Speed them up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human mind. Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and computers. The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind. I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong. Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer science research for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during that time have been small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company. For the higest levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat" and make several moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge skilled humans. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... > > http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html > > the scary part is that is not that far fetched > any thoughts? > Luis > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --0022152d6041d660bb049cd35687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the human mind. Speed t= hem up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human mind.
Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Empero= rs New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the huma= n mind and computers.

The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate = the associative capabilities of the human mind.

I'll add that e= xtrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong.

Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer science research = for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during that time have bee= n small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company. For the higest= levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat" and make= several moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge ski= lled humans.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angul= o <loui= e.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now...

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00= .html

the scary part is that is not that far fetched
any thoughts?
Luis




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simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimo= n
--0022152d6041d660bb049cd35687-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:48:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B4D1183463; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ea9u/g/l1X4siLpoYsEYYA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-21_08:2011-02-21,2011-02-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102210138 Message-id: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ea9u/g/l1X4siLpoYsEYYA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and computers. Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. >The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind. Those are different levels of "computing." Apples and oranges. >I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong. Except for the fact that Kurzweil is nearly always correct. >The advances in AI during that time have been small Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? t ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the human mind. Speed them up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human mind. Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and computers. The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind. I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong. Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer science research for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during that time have been small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company. For the higest levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat" and make several moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge skilled humans. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html the scary part is that is not that far fetched any thoughts? Luis -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --Boundary_(ID_ea9u/g/l1X4siLpoYsEYYA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and computers.
 Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days.
 
>The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind.
Those are different levels of "computing."  Apples and oranges.
 

>I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong.
Except for the fact that Kurzweil is nearly always correct.
>The advances in AI during that time have been small
Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time?
 
t
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Simon
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the human mind. Speed them up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human mind.

Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and computers.

The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind.

I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always wrong.

Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer science research for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during that time have been small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company. For the higest levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat" and make several moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge skilled humans.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now...

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html

the scary part is that is not that far fetched
any thoughts?
Luis




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon
--Boundary_(ID_ea9u/g/l1X4siLpoYsEYYA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:49:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A12C183479; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: me@timthompson.com Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:49:25 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DxUyvmhg9Ah99Pe5NVDPM_BAkdE Message-ID: Subject: Re: New controllers From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:49:27 +0000 (UTC) In the coming months, I expect to see a number of controllers based on the Kinect (Microsoft's 3d camera). It's not as compact/easy-to-use as the AirFX and AirSynth, but it's also a lot more powerful. If you're near Silicon Valley, come to Stanford's DIY Musical Instrument Tailgate Party ( http://livelyarts.stanford.edu/event.php?code=TRIM-X5 ) on April 10, and you'll see at least one of them. ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:50:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B4A6183483; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fOupg7pDn1kK2CeSqNpOlIfLc4WddoyQoqZO1E/RRaY=; b=spg7wdDt4uO95w4/jyJZU/GxjvmS8wsIYPXtl/827rRfWEvIWlrXjop2AYf8PLfRK+ LxD0Kq/PW1riPviCE/DiWDJZttWhHDDpp1mqWJOMSOnjGIL30kDNA2TxCwx4osvI+xfp gKHD7sirkvOCPGXw3rwGeHpcDN9jAIV7SjxF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tN8+YNsP+cFqXXGrerBgX+4d4GxF3mUJc3egcwTIt64LFSkboMSe2nn1MsbqaUK95a VgZ4ohiQGkOhrDJ9lg/NNJV0Okyy+qiYEN5k3xwSVWtl2WZyDVuVKamjHGOiftig1uni 3dSLsHWQjysNW13eU+YXA1sLNL4W/kE23NKfo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:50:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d540a8357e049cd388d4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:50:52 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d540a8357e049cd388d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 who deleted the 'xD' at the end of my sentence before? it was my computer! ... fuck! its behaviour is getting more radikal, since i won our last chess match. 2011/2/22 Per Boysen > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that > > reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... > > Reverse engineering the human brain is just the starting point. > Kurzweil is assuming that when knowing how the brain works humans can > kick off the "intelligence explosion" by creating creative machines > that will take over and speed up the development process further, > beyond the speed humans can keep up with. > > I don't think the article was scary. The journalist left out the most > frightening of these discussions; the inevitable danger of > nanotechnology. According to this view medecine in a near future will > be forced to start using nano sonds to simply make people stay alive > as germs become resistent to antibiotica. Microscopic nano sonds will > first be launched inside patients to cure them by semi intelligent > behavior not much different than how our biological defense system > works. As nanotechnology gets more advanced and as environment related > deceases spread around the biosphere it will become necessary to > implement fully adaptable and self developing super nano robots into > nature "to clean up", so we can keep on living on the planet. Then the > genie is out of the bottle, evolution of tech based life has started. > Sooner or later this new life will have to protect itself against the > threat from humans. > > Per > > -- .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --00163646d540a8357e049cd388d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable who deleted the 'xD' at the end of my sentence before? it was my co= mputer! ... fuck! its behaviour is getting more radikal, since i won our la= st chess match.

2011/2/22 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.co= m>
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thin= ks that
> reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ...

Reverse engineering the human brain is just the starting point.
Kurzweil is assuming that when knowing how the brain works humans can
kick off the "intelligence explosion" by creating creative machin= es
that will take over and speed up the development process further,
beyond the speed humans can keep up with.

I don't think the article was scary. The journalist left out the most frightening of these discussions; the inevitable danger of
nanotechnology. According to this view medecine in a near future will
be forced to start using nano sonds to simply make people stay alive
as germs become resistent to antibiotica. Microscopic nano sonds will
first be launched inside patients to cure them by semi intelligent
behavior not much different than how our biological defense system
works. As nanotechnology gets more advanced and as environment related
deceases spread around the biosphere it will become necessary to
implement fully adaptable and self developing super nano robots into
nature "to clean up", so we can keep on living on the planet. The= n the
genie is out of the bottle, =A0evolution of tech based life has started. Sooner or later this new life will have to protect itself against the
threat from humans.

Per




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--00163646d540a8357e049cd388d4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:54:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3983D18348C; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Fx+0/NAdtw6uj7s3ppB35UDv7IrAUglimGpLWfTkJxI=; b=G9c865UyNvHuYQAibyiA3a1916jue8X1411E1AZnsRoWH52o9Y0tgWrY8GI1d7URyX TCrEa7RnHbXk3UyP5X6+3u7sWZs3PlznMZ2kguomm4/tgZbf2NjdohRPkHxdNhp/PEIW AlArqry6VrjzeSPafvX4uBlyyobi9fDre227o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=u6WNveIRXP9egArX3uT3On+5/SkG1HoH/xwUyQKMxZjTwY5+x+EN7enTdW6nqU/IAj BLKK+35BMTIBSh7Vf2WD05OyhIWXAK9PGXFaJe/EN1djR/a52xFAsOVcB5J1GD9rQL8a HvsBnDwEER4gf+4Tj/BvKcFf5+uaLyPqWhSGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f8dfbc286b9049cd39493 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:54:16 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f8dfbc286b9049cd39493 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always liked Iain M Banks far flung take on it myself :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture The future is coming! J On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Toby G wrote: > >Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New > Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and > computers. > Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. > > >The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the > associative capabilities of the human mind. > Those are different levels of "computing." Apples and oranges. > > > >I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always > wrong. > Except for the fact that Kurzweil is nearly always correct. > >The advances in AI during that time have been small > Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? > > t > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Art Simon > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Monday, February 21, 2011 3:36 PM > *Subject:* Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal > > I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the human mind. Speed them > up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human mind. > > Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New > Mind." It's a good read on the differences between the human mind and > computers. > > The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approximate the > associative capabilities of the human mind. > > I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always > wrong. > > Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer science research > for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during that time have been > small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company. For the higest > levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat" and make several > moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge skilled > humans. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: > >> uff..quite scary thats only 35 years from now... >> >> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html >> >> the scary part is that is not that far fetched >> any thoughts? >> Luis >> >> > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --bcaec53f8dfbc286b9049cd39493 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I always liked Iain M Banks far flung take on it myself :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/= The_Culture

The future is coming!

J

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
>Years ago,=20 I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "The Emperors New Mind.&quo= t; It's a good=20 read on the differences between the human mind and=20 computers.
=A0Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these=20 days.
=A0
>The binary process that is the basis of computing does not approxi= mate=20 the associative capabilities of the human mind.
Those are different lev= els=20 of "computing."=A0 Apples and oranges.
=A0

>I'll add that extrapolating growth into the future is pret= ty much=20 always wrong.
Except for the fact that Kurzweil is nearly always correct.
>The advances in AI during that time have been small
Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time?
=A0
t
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Art Simon
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3= :36=20 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man B= ecomes=20 Immortal

I don't buy it. Computers work differently than the hu= man mind.=20 Speed them up as fast as you want, but you still won't have the human= =20 mind.

Years ago, I read a book (hah!) I think it was called "= The=20 Emperors New Mind." It's a good read on the differences between = the human mind=20 and computers.

The binary process that is the basis of computing d= oes=20 not approximate the associative capabilities of the human mind.

I= 'll=20 add that extrapolating growth into the future is pretty much always=20 wrong.

Artificial Intelligence has been a chief goal of computer= =20 science research for the past 20 years or more. The advances in AI during= that=20 time have been small. I have a friend who used to work at a game company.= For=20 the higest levels of the game, the computer opponent could "cheat&qu= ot; and make=20 several moves a turn. That was the best approach they had to challenge sk= illed=20 humans.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Louie Angulo = <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>=20 wrote:
uff..quite scar= y thats only 35 years from now...

http://www.time.= com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html

the=20 scary part is that is not that far fetched
any=20 thoughts?
Luis




-- =
Art=20 Simon
simart@gma= il.com
myspace=20 [dot] com/artsimon

--bcaec53f8dfbc286b9049cd39493-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:55:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0CC183496; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D62FB50.20407@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:54:56 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Before we Looped References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:55:05 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Per;-) > I actually own a "tea shirt" from Asana! The tea shop in Santa Cruz > right across the square where the looping festival happened. lol, last night I wore my 'Mobo Sushi' t-shirt (in glorious UV active bright pink) to Goth night. I got it at Mobo Sushi, the place where the looping festival really began. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:56:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C5E5183498; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NbEHdxDEdmiPauAV3VnIcXpVusAfTz0Y002+4q46HrU=; b=RTpzF9XkqqzmvVPOILSmIKp6Tu/ad6axv6eJpgbiZ+k3WU0x+9BpyiiDaaaQFDkHu6 D6Vo6TGilK9n+KNNGkQonJAmv5dkPu3YNniF96i+kl92Ta41SRd7x1aMM0ywpFo3oZl2 IwD1bdukzCT3ZJgUG36fTDATOgjlPgEfzjdCI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vY4OhwgWYFMN6t5Y3hS3dv75TKJknw3lTkYjjtU/WMlgn/v7WM3u2iSZ2wzxa8YcXx 7UYs9EuMnZfe3+XZ3eZvfqPYbfTit3og4jGU4akdNxm/m+sAOyj8xs/dWzNGorgc9oNl Vys+ztXtepL1okj2/Hb4Yvv+PPEPa4yaExR7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:56:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d5401c6cfc049cd39eff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:56:52 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d5401c6cfc049cd39eff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/2/22 Toby G > > >The advances in AI during that time have been small > Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? > > has anybody seen google translator converting a positive sentence into a negative one? it just happened to me before. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com --00163646d5401c6cfc049cd39eff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2011/2/22 Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>

>The advances in AI during that time have been small
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--00163646d5401c6cfc049cd39eff-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 21 23:59:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E5AA1834AB; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D62FC4E.8090906@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:59:10 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Hansen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: before we looped References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0T6yg.A.4m.VxvYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Scott Hansen wrote: > i really do miss the RAT pedal, i had the white lettering one from the > 80s. should have kept that one....oh well.... > onward & upward as they say.... Check it out.........that Rat pedal is going for hundreds of dollars on E-bay now. I remember when they were a dime a dozen and everybody had them. Same thing with the Roland TR303 synthesizer module which are going for hundreds right now. I once went to Starving Musicians and they had 5 of them on the wall, each for $75 and no one would buy them (including me) because they were so 'cheesy'. I remember thinking at the time, if I see one for $40 I'll pick it up but they never went that cheap. The vintage thing has gotten a little out of hand if you ask me. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 00:03:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A60C71834B5; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D62FD2D.5010800@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:02:53 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nemoguitt@aol.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Before we Looped References: <8CD9FFE0955360A-898-6EC5C@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD9FFE0955360A-898-6EC5C@webmail-stg-m03.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:03:01 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > andy butler sez: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZONZ_b7zs > > > > wow!.....i missed these the first time Me too, God, Andy, you are so cute in this video. I just broke out in smiles watching your interview.......especially when you got the gleam in your eye when you told the interviewer that you liked that you confused your audiences..............quintessential Andy Butler.......I laughed out loud. rick walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 01:01:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9970F18347D; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vY8+DKUuUxu/X0WJwAasqAAP0DB3bdhajKJ3YPnJSBI=; b=Itnbjwo3jzB4FvwL51sk3Xe+z7wvZKBSen3xbpunFTSNOaKq+JySW91EXLL8XPVJcE R/ecNnFBK7YDmFVIlp/oYNOsUwHGHbcpbc6KEEV6ccEi9/597HRvlfZQixeucFnCi8k7 jzTvNgGCnSHu/fAkmsgNMEH/B2l3PhDVvFN5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kvog12ldfgLGZCLivmu7KFzgh8laPH8U+2od0OgAS5bDatuhSBY1iuQVw4SG9S5bs3 93HYmHIIhDSq0/ugpVRzTOpAEpMLl6NaWY/kt6SQdOBocAxF8N7+EYS8MIc7WhKZm17r 3yAZZ9bA1g8Uy6BIk4UejY1rob6gC6BPJNqvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:01:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:01:04 +0000 (UTC) oh yes there has been fast advances "There are allready more than 2,000 robots fighting in Afghanistan alongside the human troops" well that sure doesnt surprise me,cant try that one out with rats... yes,it is scary Luis On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > > 2011/2/22 Toby G >> >> >The advances in AI during that time have been small >> Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? >> > > has anybody seen google translator converting a positive sentence into a > negative one? it just happened to me before. > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 04:04:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B626183463; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9zjfhBAf3O/QKfIQW6750dksQOqMbW8QWqfBsmXKRHQ=; b=GVSOhLLfLSiGbvHvW8MEFzgCR8xlwYpkk1D+U4ROz0qzeuDS9IGHe1PEMRb6Q3zq6b FGRpi+SMKp+H1SlFlMUfX+1MmptYDP+3J3QNdZZe82jZuDyd13sXUlj1jga+HkJ0tJBj T9b55SVc+pyVK9bVbslNzbxuzU9J+CRoQuMR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WheJbjsiYm7TDTb+GDpVj7ltG3iEQ4ECmr0MnPTBeKv8hYtHo8H7lvcXkV/GiCZQG+ 4tIoDvPsmeQDgq4v5r1LlGlNhfF7YfMnW2x1jBHeCtriOa7j97H8dlwc+SeboO/ajca9 EBajjt6XDN1m8RdjzPOq7+MrAW3Dx0iGGqLos= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:04:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a17115c023049cd713be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:04:19 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a17115c023049cd713be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Togy G wrote: Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. Thanks Toby, I haven't paid much attention recently. And to Rick, no I haven't seen Watson or read Kurzwiel's "spiritual age of machines." Let me do a little more reading, and I'll get back to this. I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --20cf3054a17115c023049cd713be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Togy G wrote:
=A0Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these=20 days.
Thanks Toby, I haven't paid much attention recent= ly.

And to Rick, no I haven't se= en Watson or read Kurzwiel's "spiritual age of machines."

Let me do a little more reading, and I'll get back to this.

I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind.
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simart@gmail.com
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--20cf3054a17115c023049cd713be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 04:23:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE3E183460; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=DIsAbmVVaqFO2Pchvj4t9jpV34vdmQwVgKvZwmLaosY=; b=HeT9Yintl9xs3pmnVF15Bc2HIj102GkBdl0H/mhjGDMXzRYfBbdPHAjSQfgePE+NHi WgxUAT6AQheqDaiH/zCcdlpwxuK2+2yazodQYEY4eJmJ+39NBXt3u0QAtERqsroE9/Kd 4GIYebblrCf+TDkAM6GnmPK94I0toNCRvmrQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=bAPWskspq5hyckzYd0B6nb1S866F/HYbNnReqwOHWQUIelY3LPTlKtXcQPkNnkrIok bQ8z6D1KOIBImk/ASYkQydzci/gpZ9url8MIgujO/03Ajulij52ZMDuDqgyxiXik0a/t birvW/hRTJRgltnudUDktQKx6sPXqSFDj/4N8= Subject: US loopers - help From: Jean-Paul De Roover Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:22:49 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last yea= r and a half), but I'll be traipsing through the US, going from Detroit, MI t= o Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA before co= ntinuing my tour in Vancouver.=20 I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded music types that would be i= nterested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that route (my gf a= nd I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance), helping us sightsee, o= r even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm really familiar with Canada b= y now, but still have no clue about the US. Plus it'd be good fun to see it f= rom the perspective of someone that shares similar interests!=20 Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road! --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 04:43:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94E40183466; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4MixugRw/f2xqCqlHvfhGOJpAH1yZU+F3DmA5vAtdQc=; b=FE7oYqCOZ4+/OHeWAzkoX+1+hRP5ESnxWOAMFD+NuIKWzOwcWbiSQQ9qw8l5R0NZ8O LhUTdojDv8/bXk9lzIvrU0ZTWGb5Xgs9uLaAqWY9SSrYw7hG2wW8LKKW6901ytOkNOv5 p6vy8mx9En1bnsXi9wuLy1TfvBKyc/EBSU994= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DXV3g1kyk3X1BU6n3xGnX6nHmYQhlWfznDyC5hzyOc/dLnYRPW644g8cdfXeJGv+d1 59gBkAg+javykSPUVXnJSUhS2CfO813rd+AWFP2FrJXmBhwHFU+zy+c+u6a7OCoyiFFv rq6nulwXyC6w4QnfOH4nCgqDeby7Hh8yppirs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:43:41 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e818ee7df39049cd79fbe Resent-Message-ID: <3u71LD.A.Pq.-7zYNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:43:42 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6e818ee7df39049cd79fbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ok, here's my reply after doing a small bit of reading. To IBM's Watson, it seems to use a "best of" approach to multiple binary search tree algorithms. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm basing this on Wikipedia's entry on Watson, but it had 4Tb of data stored to search from, far more than the data any human would store, and the algorithms it used to search that data are decided non human. A human would not need multiple algorithms, nor would it need to follow each of the different paths to its end in order to select a result. A human would choose a best path based on previous experience and I dare I say "intuition." My argument would be that a "thought" algorithm that simulates humans is still elusive. I'd argue that the reason IBM's Watson needs so much data and multiple search algorithms is that the architecture of the IBM machine is fundamentally different from that of the human brain. If the argument is whether or not a machine can be constructed that plays Jeopardy or Chess, that's different. The "deep search" that IBM uses for those objectives is effective, but it is decidedly specific to the task at hand and non human. I'm not arguing against intelligent machines. I'm arguing that they'd need some sort of analog electro-chemical engine instead of the current binary electronic engine. And to Toby G, yes Penrose's ideas seem to be widely disputed according to Wikipedia. And yes, I still haven't read Kurzweil's work. I just feel the proof is in the pudding. If machines (given their current architecture) could be made to think, we'd see thinking machines by now. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Togy G wrote: > Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. > Thanks Toby, I haven't paid much attention recently. > > And to Rick, no I haven't seen Watson or read Kurzwiel's "spiritual age of > machines." > > Let me do a little more reading, and I'll get back to this. > > I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind. > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon --90e6ba6e818ee7df39049cd79fbe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, here's my reply after doing a small bit of reading.

To IBM&#= 39;s Watson, it seems to use a "best of" approach to multiple bin= ary search tree algorithms. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm basing this on Wik= ipedia's entry on Watson, but it had 4Tb of data stored to search from,= far more than the data any human would store, and the algorithms it used t= o search that data are decided non human. A human would not need multiple a= lgorithms, nor would it need to follow each of the different paths to its e= nd in order to select a result. A human would choose a best path based on p= revious experience and I dare I say "intuition." My argument woul= d be that a "thought" algorithm that simulates humans is still el= usive.

I'd argue that the reason IBM's Watson needs so much data and m= ultiple search algorithms is that the architecture of the IBM machine is fu= ndamentally different from that of the human brain.

If the argument = is whether or not a machine can be constructed that plays Jeopardy or Chess= , that's different. The "deep search" that IBM uses for those= objectives is effective, but it is decidedly specific to the task at hand = and non human.

I'm not arguing against intelligent machines. I'm arguing that = they'd need some sort of analog electro-chemical engine instead of the = current binary electronic engine.

And to Toby G, yes Penrose's i= deas seem to be widely disputed according to Wikipedia. And yes, I still ha= ven't read Kurzweil's work.

I just feel the proof is in the pudding. If machines (given their curre= nt architecture) could be made to think, we'd see thinking machines by = now.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Art= Simon <simart@gma= il.com> wrote:
Togy G wrote:
=A0Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these=20 days.
Thanks Toby, I haven't paid much attention = recently.

And to Rick, no I haven= 9;t seen Watson or read Kurzwiel's "spiritual age of machines.&quo= t;

Let me do a little more reading, and I'll get back to this.

I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind.
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--90e6ba6e818ee7df39049cd79fbe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 06:17:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D00EA183462; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SyoM8jABaFu3PLj/zUedCnEnZLHpxDz2oAOa76W64MI=; b=IoZr5D3CFHH0IugVLskkyMIlDASQhPaE72DA2PDUYiSBDCXarWmrNp53G+YgUhsZF/ XymYVJ9yxZfk5sElimBbQ1+0pm9gQ5Z1exoBjDSPPkriuc/ygoFP7xXIIP2S2x0qzSW0 c8adaQnrMqi7IBFQmfK+5n1365WzM4YWcxsRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sailpoint.com; s=sailpoint; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cAwUDz0VRYB1HZTrgFDA0v09mPI+KaojCSshOPqtmSSFCxmDghb2jvPCFUW6xO49ow mnIMl1eRUsUReYQYtSSwD9rGYlUK48hEOHiVzrB8dNlomgnLT4SDPS0hyM6K9MsYqY6T hF1LXsQzSR0C3yVVBKY3wcFQVtwRHyYHgyyFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 00:16:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Art Simon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023547c96216bb789049cd8ed7e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:17:00 +0000 (UTC) --0023547c96216bb789049cd8ed7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I just feel the proof is in the pudding. If machines > (given their current architecture) could be made to think, > we'd see thinking machines by now. I'm also a skeptic. Oh, I suppose I could believe in the theoretical possibility of The Singularity, but not Kurzweil's timeline. 2045...that's 34 years away. Coincidentally that's about how long I've been seriously involved with computers and we are not closer in any meaningful way to machines "thinking" now than we were 34 years ago. And please don't bore me with parlor tricks like Watson and language translation. It isn't about processor speed, memory size, or fact databases. So, in the next 34 years human programmers are going to become so freaking awesome that they'll finally know how to create those self-programming systems they've been promising me since the 80's so I can retire and spend my days in a virtual reality pod with Felicia Day? Bring it on! I'll probably be dead before then, but surely there will be significant demonstrable milestones every ten years? Along the way if you could make Windows not suck that would be great too. I know there are some extremely smart people engaged in artificial intelligence research and I wish them well. For a time I worked at a relatively prestigious research consortium and the thing that impressed me most about the AI researchers was their ability to convince people to throw money at them. Time will tell. But hey, we've got Angry Birds now so at least I can die happy. Jeff --0023547c96216bb789049cd8ed7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I just feel the proof is in the pudding. If machines
&g= t; (given their current architecture) could be made to think,=A0
= > we'd see thinking machines by now.

I'= m also a skeptic. =A0Oh, I suppose I could believe in the theoretical
possibility of The Singularity, but not Kurzweil's timeline.
=

2045...that's 34 years away. =A0Coincidentally that= 's about how long
I've been seriously involved with compu= ters and we are not closer in
any meaningful way to machines "thinking" now than we were 3= 4 years
ago. =A0And please don't bore me with parlor tricks l= ike Watson and
language translation. =A0It isn't about proces= sor speed, memory size, or
fact databases.

So, in the next 34 years huma= n programmers are going to become so
freaking awesome that they&#= 39;ll finally know how to create those
self-programming systems t= hey've been promising me since the 80's so I
can retire and spend my days in a virtual reality pod with Felicia
Day? =A0Bring it on! =A0I'll probably be dead before then, but s= urely
there will be significant demonstrable milestones every ten= years?
Along the way if you could make Windows not suck that would be great
too.

I know there are some extremely smar= t people engaged in artificial
intelligence research and I wish t= hem well. =A0For a time I worked at a
relatively prestigious research consortium and the thing that impresse= d
me most about the AI researchers was their ability to convince = people
to throw money at them. =A0Time will tell.

But hey, we've got Angry Birds now so at least I can die hap= py.

Jeff

--0023547c96216bb789049cd8ed7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 06:32:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D8F5183463; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b3at4gMHijSsSUDjtKEMPwXgg9QBdn1UfZ/8JTevC2k=; b=FWURd85KM8p67JcAGoshDEChIl8QB0IAkDVga/8iC9nQbrWqMvoRilo5drGH1oEzHI fbLHDObBQU/vLAWH/qTRM8jTGatjNajfjn6FKveUzgkUL5Vac7+sQ3L8OlP7GYb++Ymi zhF47A71xU1DwRecfGJUJVTcwb/cVvVgiXuqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I2wEMT0yFy+/vJuhS+KLClQkAQOeLSWFcc5pusvy7q/HzEPO8oRW+d354KgErS5vdU CQS+q09nVrdFC7sA90f9/ZeZi2jugeHCRnjoh7eOhHOE7SZFsIROPWZXcPjz+dshRaRQ SjLShV8g7opO36LCVA6BHPz0zoJUmGc36N8o0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:32:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5KML-.A.VDD.Ci1YNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:32:34 +0000 (UTC) LOL! brilliant Jeff;-) On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: >> I just feel the proof is in the pudding. If machines >> (given their current architecture) could be made to think, >> we'd see thinking machines by now. > I'm also a skeptic. =A0Oh, I suppose I could believe in the theoretical > possibility of The Singularity, but not Kurzweil's timeline. > 2045...that's 34 years away. =A0Coincidentally that's about how long > I've been seriously involved with computers and we are not closer in > any meaningful way to machines "thinking" now than we were 34 years > ago. =A0And please don't bore me with parlor tricks like Watson and > language translation. =A0It isn't about processor speed, memory size, or > fact databases. > So, in the next 34 years human programmers are going to become so > freaking awesome that they'll finally know how to create those > self-programming systems they've been promising me since the 80's so I > can retire and spend my days in a virtual reality pod with Felicia > Day? =A0Bring it on! =A0I'll probably be dead before then, but surely > there will be significant demonstrable milestones every ten years? > Along the way if you could make Windows not suck that would be great > too. > I know there are some extremely smart people engaged in artificial > intelligence research and I wish them well. =A0For a time I worked at a > relatively prestigious research consortium and the thing that impressed > me most about the AI researchers was their ability to convince people > to throw money at them. =A0Time will tell. > But hey, we've got Angry Birds now so at least I can die happy. > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 07:38:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCBB0183463; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 301010.40915.bm@omp1053.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298360321; bh=Cm0+zRL2jGYjG8kaF4/M7aCTYmqOZAIGWd0qKd5aFzc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cpo4zAYvVIhKQobR87l+d6cSvXpGg8cxhebseyyb9Anay0EwlcKDcYhlq8wydjWUl7I7N28KK/fTazokgpFBXJtIRPNCnkmwiXJUxoM8RRjcUsqAEXaucsD5dJ2FMer+Zn77bNapkYD7JI3WqqjHNu/IqyISY4i0gyufBLyaYaQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0BE9x2SFHAEtta/JlWEGqIgDNLa0aGcAyC50ff5zvJSzjqG/SkNu9NwrJpmUGsdB+nMl1Alib9m/kUAfJN8eoaX0zQT6Nx1wLa8iEwyFa9WnwxlDNpvRcxTvgXlZtKr8FPt5Mvhp4W1BzOJHYyKb1hCRYDivH+yTn8pWuYgZ+78=; Message-ID: <185768.90692.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Sg5aasEVM1mqNG9pC4Xwq3_VXpXmauVjlF8CnSWs8bTv0q. CAMdfsTMwpfwcqyf7koCf0BEq99b1Lcse3flcEw8TquayUhdgHNPh8hEB5YR w3TPpVsEtVAcUvn3SNVzGkEpRbztZtnsq_neHUb5NBdlLyhVRG6tl1YgOlL8 yD64np6ydhFGo0THs81iZmvxcV9EtA0nb6Uh.Y5X480X14YKNN9fGz5Si8zm 5WLkUmjSBFoH_ZVkHXbn74np_ohlPkE_8.llRx3.vd8mCOZW2rgw.q57nZUM 7oHq.FI6YNrEFbWRoLR_Q X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1030496875-1298360320=:90692" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:38:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-1030496875-1298360320=:90692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the part about nano technology compensating for the imbalance we introduced into the environment is really scary. Would'nt it be much simpler to avoid destroying all the beauty and wealth which we received as a gift? Antony ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:07:43 AM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that > reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ... Reverse engineering the human brain is just the starting point. Kurzweil is assuming that when knowing how the brain works humans can kick off the "intelligence explosion" by creating creative machines that will take over and speed up the development process further, beyond the speed humans can keep up with. I don't think the article was scary. The journalist left out the most frightening of these discussions; the inevitable danger of nanotechnology. According to this view medecine in a near future will be forced to start using nano sonds to simply make people stay alive as germs become resistent to antibiotica. Microscopic nano sonds will first be launched inside patients to cure them by semi intelligent behavior not much different than how our biological defense system works. As nanotechnology gets more advanced and as environment related deceases spread around the biosphere it will become necessary to implement fully adaptable and self developing super nano robots into nature "to clean up", so we can keep on living on the planet. Then the genie is out of the bottle, evolution of tech based life has started. Sooner or later this new life will have to protect itself against the threat from humans. Per --0-1030496875-1298360320=:90692 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
the part about nano technology compensating for the imbalance we introduced into the environment is really scary. Would'nt it be much simpler to avoid destroying all the beauty and wealth which we received as a gift?

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:07:43 AM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> if machines are meant to be smarter, i don't get how somebody thinks that
> reverse-engineering our brain is the way to go ...

Reverse engineering the human brain is just the starting point.
Kurzweil is assuming that when knowing how the brain works humans can
kick off the "intelligence explosion" by creating creative machines
that will take over and speed up the development process further,
beyond the speed humans can keep up with.

I don't think the article was scary. The journalist left out the most
frightening of these discussions; the inevitable danger of
nanotechnology. According to this view medecine in a near future will
be forced to start using nano sonds to simply make people stay alive
as germs become resistent to antibiotica. Microscopic nano sonds will
first be launched inside patients to cure them by semi intelligent
behavior not much different than how our biological defense system
works. As nanotechnology gets more advanced and as environment related
deceases spread around the biosphere it will become necessary to
implement fully adaptable and self developing super nano robots into
nature "to clean up", so we can keep on living on the planet. Then the
genie is out of the bottle,  evolution of tech based life has started.
Sooner or later this new life will have to protect itself against the
threat from humans.

Per


--0-1030496875-1298360320=:90692-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 07:39:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E7B6183463; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=AnLC6Wz32+eB0ha/AN4i6kFgY0WT7MbMV6yp3zhGIdE=; b=gc6dgaLUZDNxFljDZMg3O1ZVELtXI+R6dDb+yBICeDIgyK2wt876L8Ij0DLYWFQmPg 4vNQREs4KvNzSNw5HbufYg93muoD8WKHMqVv5PKxgHkcRcMTrYka62N/xKj5TvuvRI0T 8HGtyl0pwsyajA9bPZYdVSFBiFSYGXLpF7sPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=hplCg0LMXiM3+nieslYuwJIkVhMdyl9AR9vS2Orj1/jpnXYW5MiLs0vCvpLR+DnnT0 veU3pljpsBAeqCjnZIay3ci9X/Kt2Z3SINWm+qqCp1ZxA2KRNOey3+Y58flYSmKZEHTn HdKU4OOpMoAVNY5qo31/dGsMeErQAJWY5t1uw= References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:39:10 +0100 Message-ID: <-3052821917866180530@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4S0KQD.A.akE.Gh2YNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:39:51 +0000 (UTC) On 22 Feb 2011, at 07:17, Jeff Larson wrote: > ago. And please don't bore me with parlor tricks like Watson and > language translation. Erudite points from Larson here. Just a small point on Google Translate, a friend if mine is a linguistical Scientist, he laughed ( and got a little angry) when I mentioned Google translate, he called it "brute force" translation, and said that it has single handedly been the cause of his research Monet being pulled, and that he believes has put back developments in computing 20 years. Why? Well it's then when I phased out and couldnt understand a word,. My friend? Who is fluent in 18 languages, is currently in China researching verbs. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 07:59:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D64E183460; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ffL7abBEI0xMUtnPd3Bq1RJ3AoI9dmwpstRzAeS3dlg=; b=tYpGpWDxznmt+QsxCrL1YEePe4Fu9gdymg2qShOhNdaKhl0VKCGAQAVpH9sPDv3aIK 9wJQcGZZHHKnSQrSGhFuuUZZ1v6pGMaO9Ua0yb3emKwRioAumwkxPp65fUEqrIjI7pf9 m9UW0vNtAY9XkGLAEwP2KjZlUM3fdkWWPH+ek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c5nvo81VduRnnIi74Nu+4BhSVfKXx74MvPEDql0S1QlOCYz/yaLi0hDKvEjfGG/ZRx 5Wod1BcUJDm72ki8XR0XGNYY3IzZAFvDPpWRwgOji8Gm8gGMdZyabmFoDwcO+D7ylI2L fDXNkIG6ImxuZssLozfGr7+KmVGErMeatwQJA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53a62279e4cb049cda5cb6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:59:36 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba53a62279e4cb049cda5cb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 **Annotated 2003 version of article written in 1993 by Vernor Vinge. ** http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/vinge/misc/WER2.html On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > > 2011/2/22 Toby G > >> >> >The advances in AI during that time have been small >> Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? >> >> > > has anybody seen google translator converting a positive sentence into a > negative one? it just happened to me before. > > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > raulbonell.tumblr.com - collective.com > > > --90e6ba53a62279e4cb049cda5cb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Annotated 2003=A0 version of ar= ticle written in 1993 by Vernor Vinge.
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rau= l Bonell <rau= l.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:


2011/2/22 Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>

>The advances in AI during that time have been small
Have you seen the phones that translate languages in real time? =
=A0

has anybody seen google translato= r converting a positive sentence into a negative one? it just happened to m= e before.

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--90e6ba53a62279e4cb049cda5cb6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 10:22:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90971183478; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 583747902/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.188.136/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.188.136 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQBAGIcY01V0ryI/2dsb2JhbAAMmCzKfYVeBI9C X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,206,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="583747902" Message-ID: <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:22:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9_HWHD.A.p0H.n54YNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon wrote: > Togy G wrote: > Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. That's not the same as being refuted. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys working towards the Singularity are planning on using quantum based technology...so they'd be hoping that Penrose was correct. > I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind. :-) 1) The whole thing is based on the idea that as growth is exponential it will continue to be exponential. In nature things that start out exponentially always slow down and stop. In fact, I don't think there's ever been an observable phenomena that simply continued incresing exponentially. 2) The Turing test is an interesting and provocative idea, but I've actually witnessed it being passed by Eliza. Eliza is a text based program that responds conversationally, very simple programming and some carefully selected keywords (google and download). I think Turing's point was that it's actually a bit meaningless to have a human assess the intelligence of a machine. 3) The human mind is hardly a good model for developing intelligence. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 11:11:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27095183478; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=V/y2hL13W1SpnlGDHLY7sca54Vp8zw1aoxA+acQNJIw=; b=Dgqtkdh/TZclTroWVeumbCcpc7+JNpfP2STM3eaZX68jOoeKJ66wqfW2bosBlSAzZL +tuSECY7KfNw/GTOh0Hl3dXAeSozq1NUu9I0suLjWqWRfe9GLR+NoDz5BJK17wrdK12z as5EbuMr9s1HCqN1ra5as8/LYllwL6ee0DleM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mYx9geKe6Gu7OY0nABe0Q9hYSox3NJSJp52SpqYRzK/gzUv+N/US2CqgFAtp7PgcdE IMGS8pUm0CAeIcWeU3ONGLdhE5U4X+QuyX+qOYIFsQ1bulSUIBhbfwGipwGu3jW4i2iC HI2DRubUP0nrVCz0AtfqOBA1o7dlI8yF0iaVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:11:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: andy butler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173ff398188977049cdd09ae Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) --0015173ff398188977049cdd09ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited resources. If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, then its better to hand the power to them! :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li-mXh4ml10 -Petri- 2011/2/22 andy butler > Art Simon wrote: > >> Togy G wrote: >> Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days. >> > > That's not the same as being refuted. > > I wouldn't be surprised if the guys working > towards the Singularity are planning on using quantum based technology...so > they'd be hoping that Penrose was correct. > > > > > I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind. >> > > :-) > > 1) The whole thing is based on the idea that as growth is exponential it > will continue to be exponential. > In nature things that start out exponentially always > slow down and stop. In fact, I don't think there's > ever been an observable phenomena that simply continued > incresing exponentially. > 2) The Turing test is an interesting and provocative idea, > but I've actually witnessed it being passed by Eliza. > Eliza is a text based program that responds conversationally, > very simple programming and some carefully selected keywords > (google and download). I think Turing's point was that it's > actually a bit meaningless to have a human assess the intelligence > of a machine. > > 3) The human mind is hardly a good model for developing intelligence. > > andy butler > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0015173ff398188977049cdd09ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited res= ources.
If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, t= hen its better to hand the power to them!

:-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D= Li-mXh4ml10

-Petri-

2011/2/22 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.c= o.uk>
Art Simon wrote:
Togy G wrote:
=A0Penrose's thesis is widely rejected these days.

That's not the same as being refuted.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guys working
towards the Singularity are planning on using quantum based technology...so= they'd be hoping that Penrose was correct.




I'm skeptical, but I'll try to keep an open mind.

:-)

1) The whole thing is based on the idea that as growth =A0 =A0is exponentia= l it will continue to be exponential.
=A0In nature things that start out exponentially always
=A0 slow down and stop. In fact, I don't think there's
=A0 ever been an observable phenomena that simply continued
=A0incresing exponentially.
=A02) The Turing test is an interesting and provocative idea,
=A0but I've actually witnessed it being passed by Eliza.
=A0Eliza is a text based program that responds conversationally,
=A0very simple programming and some carefully selected keywords
=A0(google and download). I think Turing's point was that it's
=A0actually a bit meaningless to have a human assess the intelligence
=A0of a machine.

3) The human mind is hardly a good model for developing intelligence.

andy butler
=A0






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http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
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--0015173ff398188977049cdd09ae-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 11:23:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BEC1183474; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9fpnrNnO2Z/1umher4QlPgqP7w/SHZG+PxqMX09BY68=; b=d23PPV6URP34pPn8ELEF+smr3Z9Kw9t229t7UbhJciNQ3MPbvQYd3luTHpjuDdfKAo zsLthGxhzbYb0/PyoI3obxvwRbA2WMez/hSP2o6DjoufPDZyXWRFtdgt6aUQXZ9SN9ck zfpg48Wy3ZdVOgyUWEHdZ4mwjR6GOFhashICA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=uo9SuRNrTU4sqfJhe8UphpDPfhM6MIdC+euMl/sirfaCdiDelHvj6vzyXQjYm+9Fo/ eHZA8CwCwsXLqqP69k9bwvP7Z6Haj0ykGgr3HjGTeUdoAf85+mG13gSwKxLAodMh6QLY 292UPNAqzytO/MP2VXZt65eUonb37bWIDzOSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:23:21 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cdde380e76049cdd35be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4cdde380e76049cdd35be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there is an upper limit to computer speed, using current technology (we've been getting round it by using multiple "cores" recently) but to take the next step, we're going to need quantum computers. it has been posited that the human mind is not contained within the brain itself, but that the brain is actually operating on a quantum level and the mind is outside the brain. we may find that when we start using quantum computers, we actually stumble accidentally on a way for them to operate more like the brain itself. it's interesting stuff and has been explored in hard sci-fi for many years, but i don't think we're that close at the moment. sim On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited > resources. > If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, then its > better to hand the power to them! > > :-D > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li-mXh4ml10 > > -Petri- > > > --000e0cd4cdde380e76049cdd35be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there is an upper limit to computer speed, using current technology (we'= ;ve been getting round it by using multiple "cores" recently) but= to take the next step, we're going to need quantum computers. it has b= een posited that the human mind is not contained within the brain itself, b= ut that the brain is actually operating on a quantum level and the mind is = outside the brain. we may find that when we start using quantum computers, = we actually stumble accidentally on a way for them to operate more like the= brain itself. it's interesting stuff and has been explored in hard sci= -fi for many years, but i don't think we're that close at the momen= t.

sim

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:11 AM,= Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited res= ources.
If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, t= hen its better to hand the power to them!

:-D

http://www.yout= ube.com/watch?v=3DLi-mXh4ml10

-Petri-


--000e0cd4cdde380e76049cdd35be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 14:52:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9D7183475; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:51:14 -0500 Thread-Topic: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Thread-Index: AcvSoAhfUFSjsKxOQ2Sy4GJyC55W5Q== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2011 14:52:45.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A386390:01CBD2A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Man, sittin on my front porch looking at the mist on the Blue Ridge, playing= some oldtime banjo, this looks awfully far away. Ya'll can come camp out he= re if you are worried. ;) Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 15:07:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4045183475; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RM5nmcFtTqN5SlmxYpsqImAZrYFyZz/XzsSRwu4Z0iE=; b=kdUe9JSMaoxmoMOM7uM3QbJ0txWniVrliFyYdpn2T+GsmCkCdrbeJg1c1rwhnsZqDk FBAj2vjKoYfJmRlnwpjBstf5sd4xzmue1uUauwZXH7FAhy3SS3bN3g24EkKuIg+OZuz5 MZbV5XG91+ecD9Oz+8gtiE/3KsLULfni2fNmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Dt7RVCt7IarTxM2+HThVXlCLZ2tgdlwFwSZC3yuGOQwS7IWAEXbeQaWqvdL7iSqlc8 4xi22CjCo+o2axVbpHXGLGK7a28dgn6g2cDynDS3qkjLVCOMEGJikxbazWfa5crsAwKt 80iLwquv7olIiWht60gPYeGyh2xkl6PtGIVoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:07:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:07:53 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Man, sittin on my front porch looking at the mist on the Blue Ridge, playing some oldtime banjo, this looks awfully far away. Ya'll can come camp out here if you are worried. ;) Wow, Andy, that scenario sounds just so very American to me! :-)) Next time I pass by America I would love to pop in for a nice chat at Banjo Porch! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 16:15:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D609183474; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SrwBkrvTrwHAiXiCbPMS66OLpSZmbGrJfmf7oZOwccc=; b=PlRds2ZPh328H3CVwbArIBnVrTb4j0vEusm1rVPpOZ3OqIiw1F3uf1fneBXYDO1HQH IBKoKh+ioU0HHO9LOFvRr41XGPu07MBENILZs18Xi2sf+LVNSECJnqjuWj6w52a/t3DP g+UHrzNqYCa0qPfxOAPGfNNB1x4OoQK+ysLxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=LE3E/F0GyT6Ilo7iwRTa/M+FX/XykcNg1KJ7EyoaWzzWlkXHXcytGSiA/nQ0u9cBEW ic3joQMclJg4iSK1A+01PJCV/inM+dzqNQK5c7CNv+mG/VbYJK9QbtpM4acMWUY2uZlO v59W7N4b4pH1sGCR1h7s6gtfK6kHrGsVtf4YE= References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> <4D638E66.3050206@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1586721071528103557@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Squeal like a pig, boy... Squeal like a pig!! Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 22 Feb 2011, at 16:07, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> Man, sittin on my front porch looking at the mist on the Blue Ridge, playing some oldtime banjo, this looks awfully far away. Ya'll can come camp out here if you are worried. ;) > > > Wow, Andy, that scenario sounds just so very American to me! :-)) > Next time I pass by America I would love to pop in for a nice chat at > Banjo Porch! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 16:30:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B4A1183473; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7092b935-ba40-4948-aa35-d4ffd078f190_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: US loopers - help Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:30:00 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2011 16:30:00.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0556C30:01CBD2AD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) --_7092b935-ba40-4948-aa35-d4ffd078f190_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are welcome in Portland! Let me know if and when you are coming through= Oregon. J.D.Devros deafrose58 > Subject: US loopers - help > From: j.de.roover@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 21 Feb 2011 23:22:49 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hey everyone=2C >=20 > I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last = year and a half)=2C but I'll be traipsing through the US=2C going from Detr= oit=2C MI to Austin=2C TX=2C then to San Francisco=2C CA=2C then north to S= eattle=2C WA before continuing my tour in Vancouver.=20 >=20 > I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded music types that would = be interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that route (my= gf and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance)=2C helping us sig= htsee=2C or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm really familiar w= ith Canada by now=2C but still have no clue about the US. Plus it'd be good= fun to see it from the perspective of someone that shares similar interest= s!=20 >=20 > Drop me a line=2C and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road! >=20 > --=20 > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 >=20 > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc >=20 = --_7092b935-ba40-4948-aa35-d4ffd078f190_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are welcome in Portland! Let me know if and when you are coming through= Oregon.
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

>=3B Subject: US loopers - help
>=3B From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
= >=3B Date: Mon=2C 21 Feb 2011 23:22:49 -0500
>=3B To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hey everyone=2C
>=3B
&g= t=3B I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the la= st year and a half)=2C but I'll be traipsing through the US=2C going from D= etroit=2C MI to Austin=2C TX=2C then to San Francisco=2C CA=2C then north t= o Seattle=2C WA before continuing my tour in Vancouver.
>=3B
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= --_7092b935-ba40-4948-aa35-d4ffd078f190_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 18:09:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15DEE183477; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D63FBDE.2010602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:34 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:33 +0000 (UTC) On 19:59, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited > resources. > If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, errrr.......? then its > better to hand the power to them! > > :-D > Or turn the power off........????? :) Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 18:26:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67DB1183479; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=3UkSUCy6cwvMA5dW+eBA6JrlHNan7B3dt7AvIUKJB84=; b=FXnux4EbfWcAAqP3AqkGIkiNN19DVSxji+AnZ1Z8q+GDpeVoBcm7WMb2RAVI1tA4Ec PfV5QIVbhaFlfdl7wzjpSTN8mP9aFBge0OZUA/8WdyWJUM3QjKBizz2BvRKablqAS2BI //Cz1eIednGdbsby28q+I0BxlucG8zLnmnE2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=gWllCh+/8m3O1xIAa+w3nLTuqIZ0G1RrxkiBhvFlUee8ZiLML1nKVN5YS+Dd2bRrzO Tja7uIttZysa1Hnzx8eCjtzxRFRckr91wHQBBvPjsys+p5201XruDWpbby5BoSA2agVb ylGK8BwcTnGzgzHbj7CAPYrJgNUENfGfe3FSc= From: Christopher Darrow Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-117182797 Subject: Re: US loopers - portland Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:30:46 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <352D3838-2700-4E91-89A9-38EA2B018B23@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:26:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-117182797 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, I'm in portland too! Glad to meet up with either one of you.=20 Couch surfing is probably an option too, depending on the day, just = check in as it gets close. JD Dervos, look me up sometime. NE 21st and Alberta, 503.327.9329 Any other Portlanders or loopers traveling through as well.=20 ---Christopher. www.SynesthesiaStudio.com On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Jeremy devros wrote: > You are welcome in Portland! Let me know if and when you are coming = through Oregon. > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 >=20 > > Subject: US loopers - help > > From: j.de.roover@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:22:49 -0500 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >=20 > > Hey everyone, > >=20 > > I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the = last year and a half), but I'll be traipsing through the US, going from = Detroit, MI to Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to = Seattle, WA before continuing my tour in Vancouver.=20 > >=20 > > I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded music types that = would be interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that = route (my gf and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance), = helping us sightsee, or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm = really familiar with Canada by now, but still have no clue about the US. = Plus it'd be good fun to see it from the perspective of someone that = shares similar interests!=20 > >=20 > > Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road! > >=20 > > --=20 > > Jean-Paul De Roover > > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > (807) 251-3376 > >=20 > > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc > >=20 --Apple-Mail-2-117182797 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hey, I'm in portland too! =  Glad to meet up with either one of = you. 

Couch surfing is probably an option = too, depending on the day, just check in as it gets = close.

JD Dervos, look me up sometime. NE 21st = and Alberta, 503.327.9329

Any other Portlanders = or loopers traveling through as = well. 

---Christopher.
www.SynesthesiaStudio.com



On Feb 22, 2011, at 8:30 = AM, Jeremy devros wrote:

You = are welcome in Portland! Let me know if and when you are coming through = Oregon.
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

> Subject: US loopers - = help
> From: j.de.roover@gmail.com
> = Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:22:49 -0500
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> 
> Hey = everyone,
> 
> I'm about to = embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last year and a = half), but I'll be traipsing through the US, going from Detroit, MI to = Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA before = continuing my tour in Vancouver. 
> 
> I just wanted to = see if there were any likeminded music types that would be interested in = meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that route (my gf and I will = be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance), helping us sightsee, or even = offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm really familiar with Canada by = now, but still have no clue about the US. Plus it'd be good fun to see = it from the perspective of someone that shares similar interests! 
> 
> Drop me a line, = and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road!
> 
> -- 
> Jean-Paul De = Roover
> www.jeanpaulderoover.com
&= gt; (807) 251-3376
> 
> Check out the = brand new video for "You"!
> www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc
> 

= --Apple-Mail-2-117182797-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 18:49:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A718183477; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 985290.94103.bm@omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298400582; bh=+gv6cHoSyIerNuOm4uEaLF5+MDBFA6laiPRqG/zeuiY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vhgPY76V+rqA1mC8oBI1Fy/fsu8MgLYTH/ae5N/+LWK+pacDefs0Df088wRNsH1r/VxR4X8ITmolAs1MesqNpZ6OUO9x+3uyCx2MwXzqReNeLqSvZqG1c0MndhIbodHAk5twu8G6ocJZmVDsKAR/eqoLxXRAZF55rStz4zaRLF0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vobk25fLN78AYKqudoJh+kKmZs4UczGEqbxphBUr+mWUb8TGZZlW76BwzjwlWOkJ3tEoI8N15CHMngeQ0iRX30zZ+QSovKsWO1Z1dh7BpTZfpNAGx1dGPq4aGYopkZ4TZtcPNe24sqZyywGfHcuFgbR/KdrvQ2fOyOivQribyZk=; Message-ID: <666684.77042.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 37oyobkVM1k3aaXrbbJ4hZ1pDREZIYg6S_GK686viVJV.QE cyWWJo7Y5IpV.HVOirEHZpahg7IbekwFTWJmFC47iJ8XdzMDYYemHy3Dix1b pVDbhX.ZwYf.5v6.3qPtbl_uG0RvP2jB4bler.DZzkn8pN0mZbBaZ1xR.qoU ZzfaYxRZ5BmhxwCSUbQnE74yz3y9qHFTdBoSZqZiZ8LmV_XKFkfy9bMI_QXs V5q7KutRU_70rx.8S0zQT1ScrbcMHTxmRIqIBV38FbL_SPnFzr339pzgkXEr G4Zuv5fzxERpD.APOTQrF5GF3nLTJUIvb8MhSVAl4QgSuw0tNGH0Kx1OGHMu c8k.1R6p9UEFmref.H9LH_Xi_KjUlsE0sZbX8eOSLQiJFLVIWy4.CzeZF4UD y0LrF.FdM1aDL X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: US loopers - help To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1576824085-1298400582=:77042" Resent-Message-ID: <697uN.A.AMG.IVAZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:49:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-1576824085-1298400582=:77042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if your coming any where near Des Moines Ia...your welcome at any of my gig= s....i have one on every Wednesday and Friday or if your just passing throu= gh I'll find a good place for food......more info...shoot me an email.....t= hat go's for any others on the list as well Kyle Dean Patten=20 P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc=20 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=20 =A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --- On Mon, 2/21/11, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: From: Jean-Paul De Roover Subject: US loopers - help To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:22 PM Hey everyone, I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last ye= ar and a half), but I'll be traipsing through the US, going from Detroit, M= I to Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA befor= e continuing my tour in Vancouver.=20 I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded music types that would be= interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that route (my g= f and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance), helping us sightse= e, or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm really familiar with Ca= nada by now, but still have no clue about the US. Plus it'd be good fun to = see it from the perspective of someone that shares similar interests!=20 Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road! --=20 Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com (807) 251-3376 Check out the brand new video for "You"! www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc --0-1576824085-1298400582=:77042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-1576824085-1298400582=:77042-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 19:17:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C266A183477; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 941703.45351.bm@omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298402238; bh=QA6qT9npW6+gjL39trcJS1IZUGWK/kDakeLD2wkvtIo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0l3PbcgLZJVuHFKZPeURAT6XQlLUpxw86zzR91wQLhTXkoh3D0EeyE9vwB+PwmC7uDRs+w+K3SEQdQ18c4tD5vQaWv4dGhgPxxCAxzk5zgX9JfmAhIpbmMsoE+fm3fj97IIAr8Scn+pI9AIKikM6L8HgTrxo940RFOeni6M7q9o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SIZSm50QC66HZidmF+PHhPGjEzu3/M8BZ7Ig9iZnqjpsg1qGM7QKkztMHEfVy1EPNhyHw1dsB2LmkGxUUY1jGklkB3p6oKAT82wcdT32r0V9tlBgaMVyaSiTq0nVPj3QQiQ9R3eiaWhEc7Au3tx1c4FAS3GC5fpuFBDcGEWDpCQ=; Message-ID: <741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1K9RcNYVM1m6VD5X0tERcog40JopQeisYekjjuGZvt.apa7 p_mei2sSvl0n.HqGnF6m_FTNlUi6gAQLQQbpgzcc_GOq3oXHWD.bztIRulmi WF.ZUbiRx0m0tYp2vsmkU.sYig5iY46KicX8ZtpY2z6jontoFNIUZH3.eSrT CDzwzMI6FqD_Sqtp6Z1b2Evw2I03GgjVlI_fJG7GhJchDkxCX1wMc0hOKMHk 4JyAWzBShd14OsuBqKg4F9nZmHNl662I6OhC3qhuVqWq.OcGSfb6d_vboMxU SxHHO3LRBZqWhLDSD1C2hyJZd9AHxnfVing-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: New controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-704330432-1298402238=:85871" Resent-Message-ID: <_C_eCB.A.A5G.AvAZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-704330432-1298402238=:85871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii TIm, thank you for the info. Wish I were in those parts, it sounds very interesting indeed. Antony ________________________________ From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:49:25 AM Subject: Re: New controllers In the coming months, I expect to see a number of controllers based on the Kinect (Microsoft's 3d camera). It's not as compact/easy-to-use as the AirFX and AirSynth, but it's also a lot more powerful. If you're near Silicon Valley, come to Stanford's DIY Musical Instrument Tailgate Party ( http://livelyarts.stanford.edu/event.php?code=TRIM-X5 ) on April 10, and you'll see at least one of them. ...Tim... --0-704330432-1298402238=:85871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
TIm,

thank you for the info. Wish I were in those parts, it sounds very interesting indeed.

Antony

From: Tim Thompson <tjt@nosuch.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:49:25 AM
Subject: Re: New controllers

In the coming months, I expect to see a number of controllers based on
the Kinect (Microsoft's 3d camera).  It's not as compact/easy-to-use
as the AirFX and AirSynth, but it's also a lot more powerful.  If
you're near Silicon Valley, come to Stanford's DIY Musical Instrument
Tailgate Party ( http://livelyarts.stanford.edu/event.php?code=TRIM-X5
) on April 10, and you'll see at least one of them.

    ...Tim...


--0-704330432-1298402238=:85871-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 19:36:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD56183474; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 146217.91680.bm@omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298403261; bh=qDcn2xEtLSl1eUufcktYEhoKbombOUhelkCnqwYyhyo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OmbG+M20W/FogpzSNMFY5vfKfyg30ziRELl9h7+LbJPJvliaogWG3phU9UUuNwxXZRCRyNC98CW/As9AKbuNC8SDt68cNJHQNkb0AzSCeAghZsE0xUy1t1qoleLnZP9dArX6dic7jhENndkzvSmi2rKgrBHVVaQC+WfrxuIPAf0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OWh6Nk0dEbsAFSARJmaVbVKxO3mgd3RJHZ8IQDCMUsEbFkTEQ8eAzAWBtlDe1k9nn7kml+vKY/jITzfZCGJktJkinOvdhG3OakeJCQQY2ffOmhM04J4JgrOjmHhvUeKndsJRfh6DX2J63eb9Ivd6L2XYKZrLdX+gQm1XyTG0qoE=; Message-ID: <31574.86849.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PEM.LxMVM1moZ4zm2kaTKtFxF8JCjet.4H.D3Zlnq_iepsm ZM6MnHvTVGPw9HdBbPmWICVe4fqFWsIqBPZOITqUS61XUSLmYyRRB8jFrNYK IMR58JxQLqlV5cHzAuQwUdTXxvCKUiYx3jW0tASzpqL_lZuvjKfuQcbMw7L3 4brSXUjxHhNICrEGz6lPl8_5mg2wDQfwv5sFb1J.60Ao0Cpmf27fFf_K5whN JH6HCh0gJZg8m5eFCAwwYl6f6xAx9ziu0X05.1g3XwKCaBX3WrihJEr1zdKc jdtqqmABJnYDC35jfgLKNXw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D63FBDE.2010602@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:34:20 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D63FBDE.2010602@virgin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2039479384-1298403260=:86849" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:36:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-2039479384-1298403260=:86849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii why would computers solve this problem for us. This is an ethics problem, we need to solve it ourselves. By the way not all resources are limited, sun energy is very abundant and has created the wealth of life we have been destroying out of sheer block head behavior! Antony ________________________________ From: Dave Draper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:09:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On 19:59, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited > resources. > If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, errrr.......? then its > better to hand the power to them! > > :-D > Or turn the power off........????? :) Dave --0-2039479384-1298403260=:86849 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
why would computers solve this problem for us. This is an ethics problem, we need to solve it ourselves.
By the way not all resources are limited, sun energy is very abundant and has created the wealth of life we have been destroying out of sheer block head behavior!

Antony

From: Dave Draper <dh.draper@virgin.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:09:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On 19:59, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited
> resources.
> If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues,

errrr.......?

  then its
> better to hand the power to them!
>
> :-D
>
Or turn the power off........????? :)

Dave


--0-2039479384-1298403260=:86849-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 20:16:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7185183477; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+VAB3/cGpXOfW6KXHYY/72S+jFg1kRZnYq8apaUxSoE=; b=eXeMoCxMagFgCDtD5jlnvxjVL/949FI0x6dZY+ZFH7y34RvKjcJcKrCqMlIliDLWBx l+405tC6AQV0J+LvpLhxL3pdwCaesMJpoi4e3EF61RhxWMR7CjO6ActPXe9Wppws4kDn 7xFyzcQKa41iqmk+B+2WhDUhsDjgrzgTY3LQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dbwQivpxPVT2GofesABMAPh6XQjAGFqtAS9ftJag68P5Hu0+alkZcdfOu6EbUaZrO8 6frDvTRFsJaV7i8ilYtNK9ls7izPcs1jx3xZQruriaKmWRzas3mvw8MvpZUjZMkBiPAc oliqv4mVVE3rp+hLu6OZgWpmy4wgsRmWdfMWA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <31574.86849.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4D63FBDE.2010602@virgin.net> <31574.86849.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:15:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5e32ca025049ce4a363 Resent-Message-ID: <-FuLlC.A.eh.BmBZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5e32ca025049ce4a363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 He who still has faith in humans, raise your robotic arms now! 2011/2/22 > why would computers solve this problem for us. This is an ethics problem, > we need to solve it ourselves. > By the way not all resources are limited, sun energy is very abundant and > has created the wealth of life we have been destroying out of sheer block > head behavior! > > Antony > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dave Draper > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Tue, February 22, 2011 7:09:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal > > On 19:59, Petri Lahtinen wrote: > > The humanitys error from day one has been limitless growth with limited > > resources. > > If computers can take over and solve the environmental issues, > > errrr.......? > > then its > > better to hand the power to them! > > > > :-D > > > Or turn the power off........????? :) > > Dave > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a5e32ca025049ce4a363 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He who still has faith in humans, raise your robotic arms now!

2011/2/22 <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
why would computers solve this problem for us. This is an ethics pr= oblem, we need to solve it ourselves.
By the way not all resource= s are limited, sun energy is very abundant and has created the wealth of li= fe we have been destroying out of sheer block head behavior!

Antony

From: Dave Draper &= lt;dh.draper@virg= in.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
Sent: T= ue, February 22, 2011 7:09:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The= Year Man Becomes Immortal

On 19:59, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
> The humanitys error from day one ha= s been limitless growth with limited
> resources.
> If computer= s can take over and solve the environmental issues,

errrr.......?
=A0 then its
> better to hand the power to them!
>
> = :-D
>
Or turn the power off........????? :)

Dave





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Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
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"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a5e32ca025049ce4a363-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 21:50:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B0A183476; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1A9c7uVXaU7kOBpWxIumau6TtxOyTnT9TnJZ2p6CR00=; b=bkTocGfaqxXBPIjHTIoI6X2lgEKrzh9izIb6AkT3bI5BPPSpq2CPdvAZa59ZgeAMR4 wjTKUpRIuYD3YSFbrGnMhFPU7ZMNHWd3q0HjLs5sHG2MO04PDTbmOYKSSBbrQe3MCQbq aPNHSrVnUrVrWAZ6Sehq2uTDeOe57rgxt1wQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SPx7YA6TZf501zZPKjrMUuqKRBLcYUZuCVo1uNqGtnuQgyeMI/BCdGVw+qtzPu9NYU 6QFbeIw6sStOkLC+tIGflifcY/LkaXRSbHFRsCnTPQAxzmA4f7E+AO2EhJzU3/MYPBJB KWE44o/v3dIp6mXxxrtxU5iyeFNqh7OBctmN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <666684.77042.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <666684.77042.qm@web112109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:50:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: US loopers - help From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d6389d850b6049ce5f87d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --0022152d6389d850b6049ce5f87d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im in Berkeley, near San Francisco, and certainly offer some sightseeing, and a good place to eat :-) Let me know Rafael Nunes On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:49 AM, K D Patten wrote: > if your coming any where near Des Moines Ia...your welcome at any of my > gigs....i have one on every Wednesday and Friday or if your just passing > through I'll find a good place for food......more info...shoot me an > email.....that go's for any others on the list as well > > Kyle Dean Patten > P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obgm3kTi5bs > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9g93s0q3uc > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten > > --- On *Mon, 2/21/11, Jean-Paul De Roover * wrote: > > > From: Jean-Paul De Roover > Subject: US loopers - help > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" < > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:22 PM > > > Hey everyone, > > I'm about to embark on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last > year and a half), but I'll be traipsing through the US, going from Detroit, > MI to Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA > before continuing my tour in Vancouver. > > I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded music types that would be > interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere along that route (my gf > and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distance), helping us sightsee, > or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm really familiar with Canada > by now, but still have no clue about the US. Plus it'd be good fun to see it > from the perspective of someone that shares similar interests! > > Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road! > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > (807) 251-3376 > > Check out the brand new video for "You"! > www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --0022152d6389d850b6049ce5f87d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im in Berkeley, near San Francisco, and certainly offer some sightseeing, a= nd a good place to eat :-)
Let me know
Rafael Nunes
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:49 AM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
if your coming any where near Des Moines Ia...your welcome at any= of my gigs....i have one on every Wednesday and Friday or if your just pas= sing through I'll find a good place for food......more info...shoot me an e= mail.....that go's for any others on the list as well

Kyle De= an Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA  50131  = ;          

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3Dobgm3kTi5bs
 ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Da9g93s0q3uc
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
&n= bsp;http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten    = ;   

--- On Mon, 2/21/11, Jean-Paul De Roov= er <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com>
Subject:= US loopers - help
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:22 = PM

Hey everyone,

I'm about to embark= on my next cross Canada tour (my 5th one in the last year and a half), but= I'll be traipsing through the US, going from Detroit, MI to Austin, TX, th= en to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA before continuing my tour = in Vancouver.

I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded mus= ic types that would be interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere = along that route (my gf and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distanc= e), helping us sightsee, or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'm r= eally familiar with Canada by now, but still have no clue about the US. Plu= s it'd be good fun to see it from the perspective of someone that shares si= milar interests!

Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you= on the road!

--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com=
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc

if your coming any where near Des= Moines Ia...your welcome at any of my gigs....i have one on every Wednesda= y and Friday or if your just passing through I'll find a good place for= food......more info...shoot me an email.....that go's for any others o= n the list as well

Kyle= Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 =A0
=A0http://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3Dobgm3kTi5bs
=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3Da9g93s0q3uc
http://www.cdba= by.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten
=A0http://www.linkedin.com/in/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0

--- On Mon, 2/21/11, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com>
Subject: US loopers - he= lp
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 10:22 PM
=

Hey everyone,

I'm about to embark on my next cross = Canada tour (my 5th one in the last year and a half), but I'll be traip= sing through the US, going from Detroit, MI to Austin, TX, then to San Francisco, CA, then north to Seattle, WA before continuing my tour = in Vancouver.

I just wanted to see if there were any likeminded mus= ic types that would be interested in meeting up for a bite to eat anywhere = along that route (my gf and I will be taking 3 weeks to travel that distanc= e), helping us sightsee, or even offering a couch for us to crash on. I'= ;m really familiar with Canada by now, but still have no clue about the US.= Plus it'd be good fun to see it from the perspective of someone that s= hares similar interests!

Drop me a line, and hopefully I'll see some of you on the road!
=
--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com
(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch= ?v=3DW7QnxUgGQPc




--
Rafa's One Man Band= Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.= facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--0022152d6389d850b6049ce5f87d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:02:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37876183476; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VdUbIautgelD2Bk6xpx2CVyU3PExHJAFc22PojWO59g=; b=UWpStCadX7Zsq4Uj1WZlWVFCw93/3ZGyPCGIHku54aFBLxS/v1R1KrTilxVA6E6N1n R2Oa6OK296V9gBCCLZgPGFpMHAfi2wV6GAVdfNX7sJMM7oe9yyHNsD53Gn+7m+2RlkyF RR09AnTMWvbXF08vysnjQA/1+ejTBl5ZVhf5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gFXSZ0khL38zVfi+Tz/kcsOwbV8I8YBrtUnnnFG3Zkz6izUKU1OaRIbxGU7TeSZjO3 s6UvdLU5D7lZXoqJyWp3rwL18Q/pXrqWjj/OYRoROs67Mg/QflJMraBMl35QdgdOdtd8 ga68hY1bH1/aRNnyRwcK/PqLOsBXF00flVsVQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:02:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303bfbbe66ef71049ce621ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:02:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf303bfbbe66ef71049ce621ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm in the market for a new laptop, and have a fairly generous budget (under 3k). I've always been a windows guy, so my inclination is to stay there. That said, I've been wanting to try out a Mac for performance/live recording work since their 8 hr battery popped up, and now that they're supposedly getting cooler(temperature wise) cases, and the new sandy bridge from Intel, and possibly 11 hours of battery life, it seems like it might be the time. My largest concern is the fact that I have a working setup in Windows 7 64 Bits with my current ADK laptop setup, outside of occasional pops and hiccups(mostly due to RAM I believe): Intel Pennryn T8300 2.4g 4 Gig RAM 160 gig Hard drive As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the wise thing is to get a PC. Am I crazy? I guess I'm looking for opinions revolving around using Ableton Live and Reaper within a Mac environment. Anyone use both Mac and Pc regularly, and notice a big difference? The videos below should give you an idea of what I'm using the computer for. Thanks everyone! Rafa -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --20cf303bfbbe66ef71049ce621ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in the market for a new laptop, and have a fairly generous budget (= under 3k). I've always been a windows guy, so my inclination is to stay= there. That said, I've been wanting to try out a Mac for performance/l= ive recording work since their 8 hr battery popped up, and now that they= 9;re supposedly getting cooler(temperature wise) cases, and the new sandy b= ridge from Intel, and possibly 11 hours of battery life, it seems like it m= ight be the time. My largest concern is the fact that I have a working setu= p in Windows 7 64 Bits with my current ADK laptop setup, outside of occasio= nal pops and hiccups(mostly due to RAM I believe):
Intel Pennryn T8300 2.4g
4 Gig RAM
160 gig Hard drive

As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the = wise thing is to get a PC. Am I crazy? I guess I'm looking for opinions= revolving around using Ableton Live and Reaper within a Mac environment. A= nyone use both Mac and Pc regularly, and notice a big difference? The video= s below should give you an idea of what I'm using the computer for. Tha= nks everyone!
Rafa
--20cf303bfbbe66ef71049ce621ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:20:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CEF3183476; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=2o6A7tRj2R/uaNNpg+qMtGWMvDyLfATwbhsVy1+o1UQ=; b=Vw0axNS15fCU537Io2JlxrVaAzOYmUwM0j6L+vI91REebw0ITV6InKXRR2cAqrhRto cc2gjSwfDt8CJc3wuZlIQ/8/wDn6hvjB/yo8lDXZT+XYQzjcZG30a7e4DmPrTnIueTSi 3jJrvuIhFOh7oj1qY/aS5yFtnr4Jt4bY/P2UY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=i+kVvrzsWCaLWrE+GVPzD7xRenlCBQhhmoxOfwX5aRvG3bOChWtljsCu5b087RPmSw kXZdvWsw0CoEYqQ6yJVzuV71GWLuHeHXKmE3FBTc+XQ7QeZyCqk/tCA6T0UscaS7m9/z 2pJSvWyvGTz+jQV77r/xF0bSN0IHlaMFiJ3gc= References: <6ED0BB466C35479E8654D72C7A561F13@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <17CC1410-AD24-490F-8FC9-E3A9E88899DB@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:19:58 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:20:29 +0000 (UTC) , Jeff Larson > there will be significant demonstrable milestones every ten years? > Along the way if you could make Windows not suck that would be great > too. LOL -f www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:21:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B820A183476; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_897095b1-2278-4626-8365-3113f99f0347_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.229] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:21:54 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: ,<741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2011 22:21:55.0283 (UTC) FILETIME=[E988F230:01CBD2DE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:21:56 +0000 (UTC) --_897095b1-2278-4626-8365-3113f99f0347_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys=2C=20 Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin call= ed MONOLITH. It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic=2C 3 oscillators etc= plus a few cool original features. It's still under development but should be ready soon. Please let me know what you think... http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 Peace Gareth = --_897095b1-2278-4626-8365-3113f99f0347_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys=2C
Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin call= ed MONOLITH.
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http://http://www= .youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1


Peace

Gareth = --_897095b1-2278-4626-8365-3113f99f0347_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:23:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1264F183474; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qbqb0WzgCUnQ+uGe3hSmsrg6BTLxvfVp8q9deMzK1hY=; b=p3BoZb53iK0cHDHOZDEKZrw1Rqkoa15ammwwagWij3+wm3Hh4uYCgjJlul/yQrBgaB 9T0isI8CclsTBkwGgWVwBDVJt5Ci3Dj8tr7FwDSHGY3N4qY6/xTZwcb+eUFmsotJFdQA 90+IBte2D4xsH2qHlH0CuUrJ0erLtLdvbRl8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=luwLRF7OyAPEEfOfz1DVHRGwyGbQY3/LegQkHsUF9/gzo6R3dsmMwEu/WkVQi697HB m6FTjz0GySJw7+nEcViJrf6yJoZ5pq5Y0hZgjbbewJ7Jos8LZ8kos7HPsHoNSrz3PXWc gfQ+frTgYbwqeTBpp5x9va9H0zN3hqacODKh8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <28F96D9D-4B3A-4081-A66B-AACD5AFF83B2@btinternet.com> <63947C9D-800E-4B4A-B721-438F63902F29@charter.net> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:23:54 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) My quick rundown (after about 4 listens) It's short - only 8 songs of 4-5 minutes each. It's about as different from their last 10 years of work as Kid A was from the stuff before it. The emotive string orchestration is almost completely gone. Instead, it's a lot of loop-based music. (Not live looping per say, but that the music sounds like it's made of repeating clips rather than live instrumentation.) At first, it sounds a lot like a Thom Yorke solo cd. It sounds a lot like the Eraser. It also seems a lot closer to Talking Heads' "Remain in Light" album, in that the first 4 songs seem to be made of many short-duration sound clips (not afrofunk though), and the second half is more ballads and long-form songs. There's a lot of apparent influence from live looping, but I'm not sure if it really *is* live looping. For example, Thom Yorke'll sing a line, then it will come back as a musical element with a lot of distortion. In several songs, it comes back as subtle irregular loops. It's good. "In Rainbows" was the album that made me a fan. Between then and now I bought everything back to Kid A, including Jonny's and Thom's solo albums. If it weren't for Thom's voice, I'd think it was a completely different band. (Drummer) Phil Selway has a solo record out too, which I haven't heard...I think it would've been cool to hear his voice in a track or too. There's already an internet meme where Thom's dance from the "Lotus Flower" video has been superimposed over Beyonce's "Put a Ring on It" song. It's pretty funny. I think my favorite song is "Little by Little". -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:29:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12EF9183474; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jpzneGnRxsmg0xa2lERPI27hLONcncV8nOOYbR9p0GQ=; b=irtfdcJTuQOZNQ6NzLqwAFlr+wD5RpWAwAttgsD7L6C067mTTACJuzbZRhYBwyes5W 4sXalAuZ7eToAm/+RIQgsg0W338YoxwOG4JkM6WX7I+ZdiQ/ZxoS8X1ZEdhOjCknisJf 9MO58p7dVrBvQG76F4ISrwx7QYYrDJ4PAK8Xg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xu2l//dmladC7HJr54zSTMQRxycIJn5WJgPdLO2RUonX0uM2kU4pbmpKKqCeaqt/FM XcLFQK5A+xNL/Rl4STOX9fIvgB+neO8AXkuQYaby+i8W0jJjtJjSZEfRlOf2gwpDTqaO N78X2BnJROl1ozcmW9gEjf0d6TujvkUx2gFQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:29:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015173ff398e56a59049ce681ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) --0015173ff398e56a59049ce681ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 here's corrected URL 2011/2/23 Gareth Whittock > Hi guys, > Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin > called MONOLITH. > It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 oscillators etc > plus a few cool original features. > It's still under development but should be ready soon. > Please let me know what you think... > > http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > > > Peace > > Gareth > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --0015173ff398e56a59049ce681ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/= user/Sentientfx1

here's corrected URL

2011/2/23 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
Hi guys,
Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin call= ed MONOLITH.
It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 oscillators e= tc plus a few cool original features.
It's still under development but should be ready soon.
Please let me know what you think...

http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1


Peace

Gareth



--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahti= nen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
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--0015173ff398e56a59049ce681ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:29:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B70D2183476; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2801 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:37 UTC Message-ID: From: "boost" To: References: Subject: Video Echoplex Patch - How Does Memory Works ? Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:43:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0080_01CBD2D9.7A3FD150" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110222-0, 22/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 2291487785439182514 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.216.39.104 (ip-104.net-82-216-39.nice.rev.numericable.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.502163/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:29:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01CBD2D9.7A3FD150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys ! i'm working with a developper on a "video-echoplex" !!! we're working on pure data http://puredata.info/ the idea is to have a webcam as source and to aply all the echoplex = transformations to this signal. we're working with the midi out of the echoplex midi out, that sends = midi notes on 8th and Cycle and note-on note off on functions (rec-dub = etc...) and CC for feedback.=20 the software threat those info and keep the video loop in sync with the = (audio)echoplex. for now, we just have the rec and replace function, but it works and = stay in sync !!! now we're working on the second step: overdub, feedback, undo ... what we need is info of how the memory works in the echoplex. there are some info in the user's guide in the = overdub-feedback-undo-multiply sections, but i'm sure you guys have been = talking about that a lot of times !!! it seems that the echoplex write memory "for the future" after a rec or a multiply , it seems to me that the echoplex is writing = another cycle in the memory after the rec-end or mult-end.=20 i'd be happy if someone could bring some more information about that. sorry for my english, i's difficult for me to talk about = technical-abstract stuff with this language :) thanks in advance boost ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01CBD2D9.7A3FD150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Guys !
i'm working with a developper on a "video-echoplex" !!!
we're working on pure data http://puredata.info/
the idea is to have a webcam as source and to aply all the = echoplex=20 transformations to this signal.
we're working with the midi out of the echoplex midi out, that = sends midi=20 notes on 8th and Cycle and note-on note off on functions (rec-dub = etc...) and CC=20 for feedback.
the software threat those info and keep the video loop in sync with = the=20 (audio)echoplex.
for now, we just have the rec and replace function, but it works = and stay=20 in sync !!!
now we're working on the second step: overdub, feedback, undo = ...
 
what we need is info of how the memory works in the echoplex.
 
there are some info in the user's guide in the=20 overdub-feedback-undo-multiply sections, but i'm sure you guys have been = talking=20 about that a lot of times !!!
it seems that the echoplex write memory "for the future"
after a rec or a multiply , it seems to me that the echoplex is = writing=20 another cycle in the memory after the rec-end or mult-end.
i'd be happy if someone could bring some more information about = that.
sorry for my english, i's difficult for me to talk about = technical-abstract=20 stuff with this language :)
thanks in advance
boost
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0080_01CBD2D9.7A3FD150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:42:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45FAE183459; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XjeGZQofyDz+ZkhN/yo7YGvYZJkG4AF22ZbOGLTGRWg=; b=D3xCzJIZ1M5JI8gy/o8u7R0gvzsrPjZYsa15Muwun1wF2M75piWK0YrdWOvNNLCo9v q8FUHPCsDbLvis/ltRTzZRHVfx+b33agabZR3d+mvTcCCNjZdXWPc3Ma1PqaHYwnnoeq 12WunDv0goR5j2+1X6nIUSorv3YasCewxqFI0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L6Okokkrs0ycGEusMdA2cHFArRJkLYPwnLWk+Q/jrBMffb33maxWEGAW8xnf3zKCqa RtGWsodBb0zMIbqSgUA7lkFcgH7vllzGYmXrPBElrRzksqL29wgm+rUGlfh8qRIRJcTM owAq7HyRyM36R2IN1eaoWw70kRCyU6wUMLJPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Congratulations, Gareth! This must be a hit. I can't run VST on my system here though, only AU, but I sure can imagine this one being very cool. I myself use Expertsleepers Oomingmac a lot and I'm actually starting to think that it is cooler with a guitar audio driven synth plugin than with a distortion plugin. You get just as an expressive tone but without all the noise that comes with the dist. I'm coming from a hardware background where I typically use boxes as Big Muff, Octavia and analog filterbanks amplified by Marshall or Sovtek tube amps. Good luck with this product launch! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi guys, > Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin > called MONOLITH. > It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 oscillators etc > plus a few cool original features. > It's still under development but should be ready soon. > Please let me know what you think... > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 22:44:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00775183493; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c8e28227-8fc7-41b0-b360-785b56adad00_" X-Originating-IP: [86.133.140.229] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:44:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2011 22:44:26.0624 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EFF3800:01CBD2E2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) --_c8e28227-8fc7-41b0-b360-785b56adad00_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I rather confusingly included 2 http's for the price of one =3B-) Sorry about that - take 2.. =20 =20 http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1peace=2C and thanks for the encourag= ement - all comments gratefully received.. > Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 23:42:21 +0100 > Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Congratulations=2C Gareth! This must be a hit. I can't run VST on my > system here though=2C only AU=2C but I sure can imagine this one being > very cool. I myself use Expertsleepers Oomingmac a lot and I'm > actually starting to think that it is cooler with a guitar audio > driven synth plugin than with a distortion plugin. You get just as an > expressive tone but without all the noise that comes with the dist. > I'm coming from a hardware background where I typically use boxes as > Big Muff=2C Octavia and analog filterbanks amplified by Marshall or > Sovtek tube amps. Good luck with this product launch! >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Feb 22=2C 2011 at 11:21 PM=2C Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > Hi guys=2C > > Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin > > called MONOLITH. > > It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic=2C 3 oscillators= etc > > plus a few cool original features. > > It's still under development but should be ready soon. > > Please let me know what you think... > > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > > >=20 = --_c8e28227-8fc7-41b0-b360-785b56adad00_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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>=3B Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 23:42:21 +0100
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>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B=
>=3B Congratulations=2C Gareth! This must be a hit. I can't run VST = on my
>=3B system here though=2C only AU=2C but I sure can imagine thi= s one being
>=3B very cool. I myself use Expertsleepers Oomingmac a lo= t and I'm
>=3B actually starting to think that it is cooler with a gui= tar audio
>=3B driven synth plugin than with a distortion plugin. You = get just as an
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>=3B I'm coming from a hardware background where I t= ypically use boxes as
>=3B Big Muff=2C Octavia and analog filterbanks = amplified by Marshall or
>=3B Sovtek tube amps. Good luck with this pr= oduct launch!
>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
>=3B
>= =3B Per Boysen
>=3B www.boysen.se
>=3B www.perboysen.com
>= =3B www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B >=3B On Tue=2C Feb 22=2C 2011 at 11:21 PM=2C Gareth Whittock
>=3B &= lt=3Bbuddhamachine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B Hi guys=2C
&= gt=3B >=3B Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VS= T plugin
>=3B >=3B called MONOLITH.
>=3B >=3B It's based on t= he old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic=2C 3 oscillators etc
>=3B >= =3B plus a few cool original features.
>=3B >=3B It's still under de= velopment but should be ready soon.
>=3B >=3B Please let me know wha= t you think...
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B http://www.youtube.com/use= r/Sentientfx1
>=3B >=3B
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= --_c8e28227-8fc7-41b0-b360-785b56adad00_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:03:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD6918349E; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=zVej06iYMLMA:10 a=1J04e4iiAAAA:20 a=Ejl_Zgy1FMkUAtKj4bwA:9 a=3NZuf8uTYSBwFJoKRhx1sLffNg4A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=nS6GA34RajS_nEo9TIkA:9 a=Mh5EvmcesuH5P51H9RoA:7 a=vezbmMmzwjNAXXMsSqAk4CKRrb0A:4 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:03:02 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <640905001.3623998.1298415782917.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: RE: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3623991_743408609.1298415782067" User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 43 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3623991_743408609.1298415782067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Gareth, I may give that a try. I am using Max/MSP these days so VSTs are all I can use with that. Thanks for making u aware of it. Good luck with the product launch. Cheers, Ted On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: Hi guys, Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin called MONOLITH. It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 oscillators etc plus a few cool original features. It's still under development but should be ready soon. Please let me know what you think... http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 Peace Gareth ------=_Part_3623991_743408609.1298415782067 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Gareth,

I may give that a try.

I am using Max/MSP these days so= VSTs are all I can use with that.

Thanks for making u aware of it.


Cheers,

Ted


On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

 Hi guys,
Just= thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin called M= ONOLITH.
It's based on the old = classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 oscillators etc plus a few cool origina= l features.
It's still under de= velopment but should be ready soon.
Please let me know what you think...


Peace

Gareth <= /DIV> ------=_Part_3623991_743408609.1298415782067-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:17:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF7818348E; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ctBJ2jY2UdS8q+4fJFPMfLVV6GDQxMtNvL/oNPFY5VQ=; b=NYBM5MYaZ5PUtnCLy/PzxIUm2l2t32nLiBQbBdeRI26fmfT811ros5e1Wxfx1l3gBh j+8AFzEUFNDLmAZp0XTerU3z0WJ2iX4KCnZCUp7Ovw0/2nUBkMqZObMWS9wL3r6BwkOW KNzhJJhfR1aJYAotWOeHn/qAhO4DbvG7+65Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c5AqWCej0TO38icTYEf6t4/VcODE+NX6ukir2ZmktngzrINCD4ajZJqcfpvcQBKjoT yhTwHXbhCAPea2KU4jyY4N7tHCFp5u5LT/wB6fAJlxOmxAOiYSydPXK5nfefn+xOsBBA E4tYv83bit90bagSMa0vDqR/za4RTmwq5f2oo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:17:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <9Km18B.A.asF.AQEZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rafa, Get both! The trick is to buy a Mac and run Windows as well on it. I did that for a long time on my Macbook. To do this, avoid all Windows emulators that "run Windows inside OS X", as they suck for audio music application. You should use Apple's utility called Bootcamp to format a bootable system partition in which you may install Windows. I mean, "Mac" is just a an operating system but the PC's from Apple tend to be well built and thus turn out cheaper in the long run, since you will suffer less work downtime and repair costs. I still gig around on my old Macbook from 2007... but I guess it can't compete with the Sandybridge boxes. It would be great to have the CPU powers to run synths as Alchemy in parallel with good old audio live looping. Maybe we'll get there on these new machines. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > I'm in the market for a new laptop, and have a fairly generous budget (under > 3k). I've always been a windows guy, so my inclination is to stay there. > That said, I've been wanting to try out a Mac for performance/live recording > work since their 8 hr battery popped up, and now that they're supposedly > getting cooler(temperature wise) cases, and the new sandy bridge from Intel, > and possibly 11 hours of battery life, it seems like it might be the time. > My largest concern is the fact that I have a working setup in Windows 7 64 > Bits with my current ADK laptop setup, outside of occasional pops and > hiccups(mostly due to RAM I believe): > Intel Pennryn T8300 2.4g > 4 Gig RAM > 160 gig Hard drive > As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the wise thing is to get a > PC. Am I crazy? I guess I'm looking for opinions revolving around using > Ableton Live and Reaper within a Mac environment. Anyone use both Mac and Pc > regularly, and notice a big difference? The videos below should give you an > idea of what I'm using the computer for. Thanks everyone! > Rafa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:25:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969FB183461; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:25:20 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5TlsN.A.Z9F.oXEZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone experienced this pedal? It's obviously a micro looper. Seems cool. Satisfied customers? Critiques? Inquiring minds are curious. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:26:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6490618347E; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4S2fCWYrv/rSpf3ruH21WeULom1srePD0aCiJQ7GyyE=; b=Ar6nXKfGDtyhia92N/ApkRFYTCJy1OxBtiALuHUxD9sDBbxk5mQPl2Va/4VtNWKkTn V8T4dhfyrv/kk1zrzvDuKYaVsDb2a4VWaOM/bXImFj7cmC9qH+V+TGKOqEee5PqyXoPc 3vNUfACveiKex04zxNa0tduNg7qxflv+xCvQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D6GWIU2nZ8n+MzXURsa8Mzx5pfbhva+pxInAxwD0QvO5GLi34mMmAVcO2cCKZkln6G uDVuZRddeGQWYSdNUh/1DRVz6M+KUG/nBXKI8nyhczaBqEIggxLpFyCVg5Buh+9g5W4o RD2ScwIzFNkTh+MMjyb6IvLJ0T6PSQSdUK0mU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:26:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:13 +0000 (UTC) You have several? > Inquiring minds are curious. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:31:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43C8183479; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=uZ09Ty8jXjoz kx/5dZldD6oltrw=; b=Lr/a7eXgFs87RQUCDSIaNJl54mUPeiD1Oh9je8BVwImR z6aMMSlotkr0Zm9qD2vDuJ1BaS1EwVd4G8pYYZvAwjPEl1VGJSXPXvjLs/1XIEvu 5zTlAyBm8qFV2d2UTQw7fOpYwgrk6oGNsDWlVRxZyqfT83Ez943c1mA7xdCqC74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=message-id:date :from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=eHpehf w7StRe1ZbbfTLQcJwJioFX/tvUIlfl+XX/zAlDLYQsYhDDwMbzI3uMavzrdXcHti 8keC38RfGGIElBwfibsxfkLPBmk/jZ1hjpYw97j+/AZtWeKZBh+Pw2r15sPWmGUE q6cSDWo7AYoot+pI1s+lKu/QEm7+b/zqTERg4= Message-ID: <4D64475B.10201@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:31:39 -0600 From: "jimp@pobox.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth References: ,<741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,, In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: E684B876-3EDB-11E0-8F90-9C7789DBB5A7-07196044!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:31:41 +0000 (UTC) looks very cool, when is "soon"? On 2/22/2011 4:44 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I rather confusingly included 2 http's for the price of one ;-) > Sorry about that - take 2.. > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > > peace, and thanks for the encouragement - all comments gratefully received.. > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:42:21 +0100 > > Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth > > From: perboysen@gmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > Congratulations, Gareth! This must be a hit. I can't run VST on my > > system here though, only AU, but I sure can imagine this one being > > very cool. I myself use Expertsleepers Oomingmac a lot and I'm > > actually starting to think that it is cooler with a guitar audio > > driven synth plugin than with a distortion plugin. You get just as an > > expressive tone but without all the noise that comes with the dist. > > I'm coming from a hardware background where I typically use boxes as > > Big Muff, Octavia and analog filterbanks amplified by Marshall or > > Sovtek tube amps. Good luck with this product launch! > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Gareth Whittock > > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST plugin > > > called MONOLITH. > > > It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 > oscillators etc > > > plus a few cool original features. > > > It's still under development but should be ready soon. > > > Please let me know what you think... > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:41:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DB3A183496; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=26+W9nomZz2nvN9or4xoiEIfEQOD4dOMgo+XsaGaoQY=; b=apssq3a0/qb4eajOhQzk5Wa/G2EEMyesjen3RM6RMu+dAU2mmhRzK25KpOMjQYSvNu 62I7B4EpGOPOOJWQmaaND3dKN3V8O/wjKj2xaF2RUL0UMVaKxzpg8PjBafMcCK99oHPA R6PMyZvU2XeydTRIeKv9b/cuhkkYiZ6ib4fVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YLgBhJG8lU0LfM+eymtoX9W78U/kQhWVKxNuvTzO3mBS0Ob6We0RqQugqP24wFjutt lzkiFPdMZ1ghdTCVQWx7GFiqN9BT6L/RqRLW8MLbpuhEJKzgTs4eM3g9jQHoNZKjMSJz YRBZ8geCxQBGT7zkNaOertFS4rKfk246kz4n4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:41:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Yep, like Per says...especially since you're already invested in PC software, take advantage of the mechanical aspects you've described to the Mac and apply them by running BootCamp/Windows on the Mac! My lab just purchased a 27" iMac i7 with 16 GB of RAM and a 2 TB drive...so we could run Windows 7 on it and utilize the 64-bit versions of software that we use...(there's a 200GB partition for Snow Leopard). Macs are the best things to happen to Windows... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > I'm in the market for a new laptop, and have a fairly generous budget (under > 3k). I've always been a windows guy, so my inclination is to stay there. > That said, I've been wanting to try out a Mac for performance/live recording > work since their 8 hr battery popped up, and now that they're supposedly > getting cooler(temperature wise) cases, and the new sandy bridge from Intel, > and possibly 11 hours of battery life, it seems like it might be the time. > My largest concern is the fact that I have a working setup in Windows 7 64 > Bits with my current ADK laptop setup, outside of occasional pops and > hiccups(mostly due to RAM I believe): > Intel Pennryn T8300 2.4g > 4 Gig RAM > 160 gig Hard drive > As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the wise thing is to get a > PC. Am I crazy? I guess I'm looking for opinions revolving around using > Ableton Live and Reaper within a Mac environment. Anyone use both Mac and Pc > regularly, and notice a big difference? The videos below should give you an > idea of what I'm using the computer for. Thanks everyone! > Rafa > > -- > Rafa's One Man Band Online: > http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc > http://vimeo.com/11499020 > http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:42:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A757A183498; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=pEcwL2DfNxfqEHRwvGeHHj6G8n3mozM9gWBaXl3VOE4=; b=nmTqhoEgTXqbSpLQVZL4b/7+PS4w4EDtAaUvtanHVKX9Tg2wSgj9KNmENh9jj3ZL+A O/+18gJvU/b9WwJ6/e3mvnVBKXcL9aesorYaKgW7ALlOU5G8cmxqER0riCdLeU/CLR4s /LgYfm5G2PXuXIvLfZCN/GO7I/bJ1Vw+iLDr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=PPBN3gc0fantiorhko9kCE/7r0exmX/DXvUlK6XY6hzxSDoM7NyvLXjUGRuHFA6Q2l M9Suubs9Ils3fKtbg6Zhbzll1leY8ImL8ruXzVKJEY6RulINy5URQg5T8EZpvLQNjKa7 pvc2hzaYqDeAtMlJVQatWT6P7LYcjdEzemaSk= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-135880908 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:42:24 -0800 References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <-lo_SB.A.VgG.rnEZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:42:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-135880908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Satisfied customers? Critiques? Hi Rick I like it. At this point my only complaint would be that it does not use batteries so the dreaded wall wart limitations prevail. The button click is a bit loud if you are working in lower volume/ quieter mode. It will be interesting to see how long the foot button lasts since in certain types of music making it gets used a lot. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-2-135880908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Satisfied = customers? =   Critiques?

Hi = Rick

I like it.
At this point my only = complaint would be that it does not use batteries so the dreaded wall = wart limitations prevail.

The button click is a = bit loud if you are working in lower volume/quieter = mode.

It will be interesting to see how long = the foot button lasts since in certain types of music making it gets = used a = lot.

regards

BobC
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= --Apple-Mail-2-135880908-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:53:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2E231834AB; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D644C60.3050501@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:53:04 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:53:15 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Man, sittin on my front porch looking at the mist on the Blue Ridge, playing some oldtime banjo, this looks awfully far away. Ya'll can come camp out here if you are worried.;) lol, I'm currently sitting in front of my computer screen bowing my tenor banjo with both a Suzuki 1/4 scale bow and a Pirahna micro bow, singing a hi falsetto Rag into the bowl of the banjo loud enough so that it resonated the open tuning I'm in (some minor thing or other) as I play it's fundamentally tuned drum head with a combination of Indian and MiddleEastern finger drumming techniques..............and I'm worried..................very worried, Andy! I've got to get back to the garden, as Joni says. See ya soon, brother! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Feb 22 23:57:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F4671834B7; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D644D80.9030808@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:57:52 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: <17CC1410-AD24-490F-8FC9-E3A9E88899DB@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <17CC1410-AD24-490F-8FC9-E3A9E88899DB@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > there will be significant demonstrable milestones every ten years? > > Along the way if you could make Windows not suck that would be great > > too. I'm so with you there, Jeff, and as long as they're at it, if they could also figure out how to make my MacBook Pro quit breaking down every 3 months (consistently for the last four years!!), that would be a delight as well. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 00:00:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 156781834C0; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D644E01.3020707@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:00:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Davignon CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:00:09 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It's good. "In Rainbows" was the album that made me a fan. Between > then and now I bought everything back to Kid A, including Jonny's and > Thom's solo albums What was Jonny's solo album like and what was it called? I'm curious. he's cool! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 00:25:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88AE9183465; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:25:02 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafael Nunes CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:25:10 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote: > > As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the wise thing is to > get a PC. Am I crazy? From my perspective, and I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as many on this list (read Per Boysen, Jeff Larson, Andy Butler, et. al.), if you have a lot of money, then I'd go with the new MacBook Pros because you can run OS X and Win 7 simultaneously using Boot Camp. This allows you to do your websurfing and email correspondance without great a great fear of viruses and then to run whatever audio you want on either OS. On the down side of purchasing a Mac, I have these feelings: I, personally, love VST instruments and, especially, the fact that very young, out of their bedroom programmers are continually innovating new sound design strategies in the free/share ware world. Currently, developement of freeware VSTs is running around 20 to 1 (PC to Mac). Additionally, I personally love several programs that not only run solely on Windows but also have no true equivalents in the Mac world (my favorite addiction is FLStudio producers edition and then a bunch of proprietary small standalone programs like Tuareg and Granulab). I also, personally just really like the Sony family of programs that used to be Sonic Foundry.....Sound Forge, Vegas Video, Acid, et. al. So I prefer the PC side of things. But it all comes with a price and that is a lot of working tweaking things so that your system will run smoothly. OS X just runs well out of the box. The downside of all of this is that I don't have a lot of money and the Mac world is just more of an upper middle class kind of computing solution. Peripherals cost more money and Mac is constantly figuring out ways to keep people using their stuff (my headphone jack just quit working because standard sized mini plug headphones trip a switch that make the headphone out an optical out ---- solution: only buy more expensive Mac peripherals..........that stuff is maddening to me. Lastly, talking to the people at the so called 'Genius Bar' told me that they assume that their laptops will run for 4-5 years, so be prepared to be buying a MacBook Pro at that frequency. I spent $3,500 on mine , fully tricked out, and a vastly better one was in place within a years' time at half the price. To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro, be prepared to pay an extra $600. Figure that out against the $200 or so it will cost you on a PC laptop. Admittedly, I have only an anecdotal horror story with my MacBook Pro-- $4,000 of repairs in 4 years, covered by the warranty and extra $300 Apple Care 'insurance) but I know many people who haven't had a single problem with the exact same model, so I believe I just have bad karma with Apple............ After all was said and done I figured that I could have purchased two phenomenal PC laptops (one off the internet for audio, one on for video and web browsing) and a very high quality Video Projector and Screen and still had change in my pocket. Given my problems with my laptop, I wish I had. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 00:35:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 346FF18348A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NQu7daRTFl+v82jxD+9CKIM/wpqUP96OMqpwlDqG3nc=; b=nwHkgAos8RyNriivlmyW2A/x7Seg4OPdj2aY3tBUqkJ9FvleYzqFWqU3ChFf36jf0R goARTfhbRS2tI2HUvxWjrQYUE2KTGYLoWD9DIHAb6VgLu6QpMrIb94tU8JmZolaqdrga sgCzLH2MkJ1lAcGgACgMP8T3zx4Rq4YfsEYgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vEwFGG6hK+jEz6m9GkJPn4llBRuUXnRo8LjzLq4PlLiyh19KpkYXqqd/YEfBs+JzUp Uuv0heizhdbSGd2wGOwhVN3GRBFwHMJbDnRx0LdPSkENJhxq3ijR3zw7MHXOxczOTZZx saIvgUsaFsfmBfvyD6K5UTeWeN/fteHthHoco= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:33:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I got a Macbook pro a couple months ago. This is my first mac after a lifetime of pc use and I have no regrets. Not only is this the best computer I've ever owned, like Per and Dennis mentioned I installed Windows 7 on it and continue to use windows software that I previously bought. You can also run windows software directly in os x using specialized software (with mixed results in my case). Losing old software wasn't much of an issue since almost everything is now available on both platforms and I had skipped a couple versions on my most used software and was due to spend on updates in any case. One complaint is the heat this thing is generating. It's usually fine for music, but when I use it for my graphical work (3d, photoshop, movie editing) it can get quite hot. I suspect this is because I got the 2.8ghz i7 while it was originally design for something else. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Yep, like Per says...especially since you're already invested in PC > software, take advantage of the mechanical aspects you've described to > the Mac and apply them by running BootCamp/Windows on the Mac! > > My lab just purchased a 27" iMac i7 with 16 GB of RAM and a 2 TB > drive...so we could run Windows 7 on it and utilize the 64-bit > versions of software that we use...(there's a 200GB partition for Snow > Leopard). > > Macs are the best things to happen to Windows... > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Rafael Nunes wrote: >> I'm in the market for a new laptop, and have a fairly generous budget (under >> 3k). I've always been a windows guy, so my inclination is to stay there. >> That said, I've been wanting to try out a Mac for performance/live recording >> work since their 8 hr battery popped up, and now that they're supposedly >> getting cooler(temperature wise) cases, and the new sandy bridge from Intel, >> and possibly 11 hours of battery life, it seems like it might be the time. >> My largest concern is the fact that I have a working setup in Windows 7 64 >> Bits with my current ADK laptop setup, outside of occasional pops and >> hiccups(mostly due to RAM I believe): >> Intel Pennryn T8300 2.4g >> 4 Gig RAM >> 160 gig Hard drive >> As much as I want to want the Mac, I feel like the wise thing is to get a >> PC. Am I crazy? I guess I'm looking for opinions revolving around using >> Ableton Live and Reaper within a Mac environment. Anyone use both Mac and Pc >> regularly, and notice a big difference? The videos below should give you an >> idea of what I'm using the computer for. Thanks everyone! >> Rafa >> >> -- >> Rafa's One Man Band Online: >> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc >> http://vimeo.com/11499020 >> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 01:37:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4CAB18347D; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fnTbv9PMvRjZGRZh/0FbT3pbQZdwlgQSIQp5g6EHndI=; b=JrHCNi1CCTLhZi5onlag1UtEytsc3sEDrwLkj/eQ8+7eB/j/Mn3wWM8zFEO5NCF++k MVyJlzzrWZDaMXGDGhZPCcpNKBGiSeVvl6z1J0yXhl1JPm9ptqMQBVL6m5IB645VWReC TuLkZG04dUXAUtpFAvZV037IUt/ed6tQOjNTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ifzNvnAXv3o+q4mGlCesG6+zHgLLIchID/9TPf0IAvmPVnX345O4MHrV8RxnHFCKgX ZVsQhgu/rJs2Srn/fY0ka05v2j8BXp3hNbd+NJL0J7ev9YEMLVig659NHnF24nIQBNFv uy8Dlp0jj/riZd5DUaD+1rgqKEOkwWs9KyXpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D644E01.3020707@cruzio.com> References: <4D644E01.3020707@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:37:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: OT: New Radiohead- what do you think? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker went: > What was Jonny's solo album like and what was it called? The one I'm thinking of is called BodySong. It's a soundtrack, and I bought the physical disc from Amazon. (No download service had it.) It's kind of like a modern take on Pink Floyd's "Soundtrack to the film More". (Or maybe that's because it's closer to what I originally hoped the Floyd soundtrack would sound like.) It's all instrumental, some trippy passages, a free jazz thing, some keyboard stuff. It's very good. No "Cymbaline". He also composed the soundtracks to "There Will Be Blood" & "Norwegian Wood". (I haven't heard the latter.) -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 01:53:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CF99183461; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=v4UBKnq7QBJErX2RZbuUXcpcQRQyg02DJMWqgA20AoU=; b=VXn/gW1+9b4t9SnHVCAa/4KYl496VC/VwWO2YV3GR5WZUh4VFOnoxOfSM3CSC0nRe3 oQz6it+9E+tGq1RBBpbkVRd0k/GJmBYaHGfXBm9L8BhOe2GATb6dqjGOku11It6WOCrI MzVasnKXois7xxNICGCfuV6sctNkbdkgqvCww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=va6FQSuOgqX7NV4g/tKXtiAWFfEYZYQF87A9HuuYsk2fM+lDhAC7Pq/jvKk6Vn+ChK 3+tWlz/y+/jAUNCSxwlCrxjB4RtNHl2wWyilAPZoGshuH1HjIo0iDKsoM5lJM8naz+Ha mGcN21XzC+VHb2qY9xNZWpTPCVLHdXREIEoRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:53:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Mobius Alternatives From: John Singletary To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, so I've been playing around some with Mobius and think it seems like an very good program but also find the interface a bit hard to work with in some respects. I was wondering what, if any, other programs are out there that essentially do what mobius does in terms of live looping but that might have a little les steep of a learning curve or an interface thats a bit more user friendly. However, if Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its a matter of know whats out there. Thanks again to everyone for your help, I've been experimenting with some different looping techniques and planning my setup, still aquiring a lot of the pieces to make it all work but this is something i've been interested in for some time and actuallly applying this method is really re-invigorating my interest in playing and performing so its a lot of fun. Best Regards, John Singletary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 01:56:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 908CA183460; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pacbell.net; s=s1024; t=1298426167; bh=dxz5jZexaTS/f4bWaxerINsxZBgSb9a68Dwlu+Rbp84=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NDzyMrjvVu1SlhS/MWACU15NyqVGrDlOHmX2BHZoXadjl6BGGe1mVmZs+xPKV9F9I/2aOgLYd24je3rsyXy1txfv8vyROu5KuuoJYvcPJ88GLsJ1KnxFdrBMu/JW3wi8cbydlFzpC9QPbxven+u5Kfs6wrnX95oM2CSpysGSWX8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s5oIDalB6wJ8MexpY+qUtWI/Xi6Vmsz+fNKJ3xdRo6Jc19qX8FTlytLP4o9P8iisFY3aBBAcTso5GhUWWZItA0I45yLiEDGIPCz1hm+Fj6qYEDahIKkeGc89o3LEv5d3psWLaS0LDrohl68fDIlHGzyz8Fw74/lMwMhAARBZ+34=; Message-ID: <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 74QOFJ4VM1khUQnJ8R.rS.rk_hlV_7Gp04Vq0PzRlCQLEpt 2m.qU9MXzrmA4oQ0k4AmUWthymEA3tFgx62wMIs0ywcisVpSByCgb_VbTb72 HrI6.Y4sm9b9bxcW0XIje2gaN6ePq5WFdEyFjdE72md21ynkc6HUMMAKjQQG _kSKHNElKl5Jb8mKmfsm7f_HfcisOQE962mg7IIR8bwr2PLyNn6.n7m3ggJw R_WB7_emlE.4LlvYffZxaU0p4WR6.ZaYzGPqjoW0YrnfCyE_G8dXAoPya_RP XFpxs44gjDuGpNcJ_VgDZYaw8FxpL7n6Mu6u.P2jwEdJzpx7vUmMsXVOl9Uv xFqkgFX6k7vMQKUpuXFKUae36s2boCCpHRb81yfTPaLdb_Ge74OjeGwyd7A6 lITWMBkw- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:56:07 -0800 (PST) From: Sean M Imler Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-93365744-1298426167=:34388" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:56:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-93365744-1298426167=:34388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii unsubscribe --0-93365744-1298426167=:34388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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--0-93365744-1298426167=:34388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 02:07:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEAF918347F; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xSPAz6f76wboWqHTLARttxiPnM15IVHKqrFtIpn/DwM=; b=dYxNuxGbZVDLSO/JBTQ9UPx9wtZ2zvTdlVk1xSI9ibcua9oYVSBa2E7mizfmUv7Ga6 iE3LJiykvfGkjogJHFCfgL2o3resmjAzhZJt2BjnKngeaFOpWux0GVYkBl67oaGR8XtG vmJqcoRGV4pw96WcUJmyveGLkAyu6lMbHgA8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=q/9dbn/bXZA/4IcwxlKjyj5lTsQEJGI/l74P6LWWAMNaoWEcQXmO7xp7uDW9Cnj0RE VHZg1JekNiA+4zsQ+d+9+8Sq8ZKC2NpfX4s0TlPcZan6ybFZic8Fssyw87tJIQjycV8I gm1bMXT2xu7gE96aeuweAxoEC1ZOqDT1jpaMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:07:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Someone doesn't like radiohead On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sean M Imler wrote: > unsubscribe -- Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 02:10:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03EF7183490; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D646C6F.2010100@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:09:51 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Cheli-Colando CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:10:00 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > You have several? > > Inquiring minds are curious< Thanks to several mind altering and psychotropic substances consumed in various combinations much earlier in my life, the answer is yes, Kevin! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 02:31:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E95E0183483; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9aqgavgveQoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=CxtTIIqX4NLDIlKqB-IA:9 a=npmJ9g0mL5qv5Gi3UcIBE1mEFzEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=8FrucEPw_n_cRDUdobcA:9 a=Bj6gTMjqwUiff_3Ub70A:7 a=0_wBxuNxUt_tUfSD9qU5qegNqC8A:4 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:03:30 -0800 Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Richard Atkinson To: LOOPERS DELIGHT LIST Message-ID: Thread-Topic: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Thread-Index: AcvS/d3NHDnRTj7xEeCY0gAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <185768.90692.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3381242614_11943243" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:31:05 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3381242614_11943243 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable In my opinion, this would require a huge ethical shift. I was brought up t= o believe that this world was created for man and we were given dominion over it. But due to our silly misbehavior, it now is the playground of the devil, and our perfect little happy place lies elsewhere. Why would someone be motivated to be warm and fuzzy to the planet, then? I own it, I=B9m at the top of the food chain, it=B9s all going in the shitter anyway, and I won=B9t be here when it hits the fan. I=B9m glad I don=B9t believe that anymore, but lots of people do. On 2/21/11 11:38 PM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > the part about nano technology compensating for the imbalance we introduc= ed > into the environment is really scary. Would'nt it be much simpler to avoi= d > destroying all the beauty and wealth which we received as a gift? >=20 > Antony >=20 > =20 --B_3381242614_11943243 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal In my= opinion, this would require a huge ethical shift.  I was brought up to= believe that this world was created for man and we were given dominion over= it.  But due to our silly misbehavior, it now is the playground of the= devil, and our perfect little happy place lies elsewhere.

Why would someone be motivated to be warm and fuzzy to the planet, then? &n= bsp;I own it, I’m at the top of the food chain, it’s all going i= n the shitter anyway, and I won’t be here when it hits the fan.

I’m glad I don’t believe that anymore, but lots of people do.

On 2/21/11 11:38 PM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" <antonyhequet@ya= hoo.com> wrote:

the part about nano technology compensating for the imb= alance we introduced into the environment is really scary. Would'nt it be mu= ch simpler to avoid destroying all the beauty and wealth which we received a= s a gift?

Antony

 

 --B_3381242614_11943243-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 02:51:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AA92183461; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=U2Kh5xp+E1jIas64KX3WkVL8Qp7U3TQDeQW35YvQPN8=; b=Lcncz2uDq0uySiZw4n19Hmpob6Wwq3eA1BAkb+2pXFiWbwV9k1soK8K8bbPN64r0Lv wxoxzjY1a4FQMRqjPAYIV2uQduY4xA+uWAeJF/ovk3x6S7IBOpGFG2jfNTtrtgzELy70 WxFOVMSTu1KHUgBvhElIgaz1beCBHZ/AF4/H0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tlZRsyn9NGcqI2AqK1C2QiQwHeJCC7iboI2+YkgN3Db+Z9ksSKk3tX1FsmJfaAKBPB x5U9cpeuzbnWvi2l9REyQq2Jfd8VFryKBqB1kFPF/iDiXDrUGtlUkHPweyWLCdDBy+Ol IgSwHEk55CW8j342KdHSXdA9kNblcXziZp5js= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56b12997191049cea2d96 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:51:49 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd56b12997191049cea2d96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mathons (matthias and andy) are working on EDPx/echoloop which is the jammy-jam. it's extremely similar to the hardware edp. if you ask nicely perhaps you can try out a beta version. i prefer it over mobius. - jim On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM, John Singletary wrote: > Hey All, so I've been playing around some with Mobius and think it > seems like an very good program but also find the interface a bit hard > to work with in some respects. I was wondering what, if any, other > programs are out there that essentially do what mobius does in terms > of live looping but that might have a little les steep of a learning > curve or an interface thats a bit more user friendly. However, if > Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its > features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its > a matter of know whats out there. Thanks again to everyone for your > help, I've been experimenting with some different looping techniques > and planning my setup, still aquiring a lot of the pieces to make it > all work but this is something i've been interested in for some time > and actuallly applying this method is really re-invigorating my > interest in playing and performing so its a lot of fun. > Best Regards, > > John Singletary > > --000e0cd56b12997191049cea2d96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mathons (matthias and andy) are working on EDPx/echoloop which is the jammy= -jam.=A0 it's extremely similar to the hardware edp.=A0 if you ask nice= ly perhaps you can try out a beta version.=A0 i prefer it over mobius.
<= br> - jim

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Jo= hn Singletary <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey All, so I've been playing around some with Mobius and think it
seems like an very good program but also find the interface a bit hard
to work with in some respects. I was wondering what, if any, other
programs are out there that essentially do what mobius does in terms
of live looping but that might have a little les steep of a learning
curve or an interface thats a bit more user friendly. However, if
Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its
features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its<= br> a matter of know whats out there. Thanks again to everyone for your
help, I've been experimenting with some different looping techniques and planning my setup, still aquiring a lot of the pieces to make it
all work but this is something i've been interested in for some time and actuallly applying this method is really re-invigorating my
interest in playing and performing so its a lot of fun.
Best Regards,

John Singletary


--000e0cd56b12997191049cea2d96-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 03:12:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F2C7183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:11:57 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5jXawD.A.xwE.FsHZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey Gareth, this demo sounded really cool, Though I haven't dusted off my guitar synth in a few years the idea of a guitar synth that doesn't require a proprietary pickup has always appealed to me, and as a VST plug in I could see using it in my DAW to tweak and reprocess sounds. keep us posted. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 03:16:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F69F183486; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBD308.03C9A01F" Subject: LP1 for sale? Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:15:56 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B93249@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LP1 for sale? Thread-Index: AcvTBKB0HLXKfWwSTmSGEXEx0UaOcgAA0MZw References: From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 03:16:54.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F0D1020:01CBD308] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:16:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBD308.03C9A01F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody got an LP1 they wanna sell or trade? =20 Andy o ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBD308.03C9A01F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anybody got an LP1 they wanna sell or = trade?

 

Andy o

------_=_NextPart_001_01CBD308.03C9A01F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 04:01:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E0218347C; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-hashedpuzzle: CR+s Canc Ct3u DGXn DLLq FNXQ GIkB G8LK HZY8 H+36 IIIY JXVn JxTx KSkR KVUT LqA8;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{BED7FE46-A084-4E26-8736-E6218F3F7578};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAZABpAGEAbAB3AG8AcgBkAC4AYwBvAG0A;Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:59:59 GMT;TAB1AGkAcwAgAGwAaQBzAHQAZQBuACAAdQBwAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {BED7FE46-A084-4E26-8736-E6218F3F7578} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Luis listen up Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:59:59 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Luis listen up Thread-Index: AcvTB3TfXkQGdFG7QSiYkMv2y1g2lQABTf6A References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 04:01:04.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AB65FA0:01CBD30E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Allright ya'll tell me this aint cool..... 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Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 05:27:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D902183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b8245b3f-7728-423a-8349-c8e27faf18a8_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:27:27 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 05:27:27.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C143630:01CBD31A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:27:30 +0000 (UTC) --_b8245b3f-7728-423a-8349-c8e27faf18a8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill=2C=20 Yeah=2C I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's p= atched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have to c= onfess=2C you were in my mind when I tested that feature out. I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon. Peace g > From: billwalker@baymoon.com > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth > Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 19:11:57 -0800 >=20 > Hey Gareth=2C this demo sounded really cool=2C Though I haven't dusted = =20 > off my guitar synth in a few years the idea of a guitar synth that =20 > doesn't require a proprietary pickup has always appealed to me=2C and as = =20 > a VST plug in I could see using it in my DAW to tweak and reprocess =20 > sounds. keep us posted. >=20 > Bill >=20 = --_b8245b3f-7728-423a-8349-c8e27faf18a8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bill=2C
Yeah=2C I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their D= AWs too. It's patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides = and I have to confess=2C you were in my mind when I tested that feature out= .
I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon.

Pe= ace

g

>=3B From: billwalker@baymoon.com
>=3B To: loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guita= r driven synth
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 19:11:57 -0800
>=3B =
>=3B Hey Gareth=2C this demo sounded really cool=2C Though I haven't= dusted
>=3B off my guitar synth in a few years the idea of a guita= r synth that
>=3B doesn't require a proprietary pickup has always ap= pealed to me=2C and as
>=3B a VST plug in I could see using it in my= DAW to tweak and reprocess
>=3B sounds. keep us posted.
>=3B =
>=3B Bill
>=3B
= --_b8245b3f-7728-423a-8349-c8e27faf18a8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 05:48:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73C5B18347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_963b1694-35b8-4f67-9db3-d36e7947de24_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:47:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> References: ,<4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 05:47:59.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A135950:01CBD31D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 05:48:00 +0000 (UTC) --_963b1694-35b8-4f67-9db3-d36e7947de24_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick I'm totally with you on these points. I find Apple's corporate tie-ins= quite repugnant. Apple this and apple that=2C making you buy their proprie= tary accesories- Sony are the same and I avoid their products for the same = reasons. I'm with you on the grass roots development of everything from VST's=2C (= =3B-) to sequencers to VJstuff etc I have a vision of ordinary people designing the means of music production = and distribution. Designing tools for music generation=2C processing=2C seq= uencing=2C interactivity=2C distribution and consumption. It's an exciting = prospect made possible by dint of the internet.=20 God Bless the Global village! There's a snob value to macs that I dislike too but that's probably because= I'm permanantly skintocks! Peace G > Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 16:25:02 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: supersimples@gmail.com > CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM=2C Rafael Nunes wrote: > > > > As much as I want to want the Mac=2C I feel like the wise thing is to=20 > > get a PC. Am I crazy? > From my perspective=2C and I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as many on=20 > this list (read Per Boysen=2C Jeff Larson=2C > Andy Butler=2C et. al.)=2C if you have a lot of > money=2C then I'd go with the new MacBook Pros because you can run > OS X and Win 7 simultaneously using Boot Camp. >=20 > This allows you to do your websurfing and email correspondance without=20 > great a great fear of viruses > and then to run whatever audio you want on either OS. >=20 > On the down side of purchasing a Mac=2C I have these feelings: >=20 > I=2C personally=2C love VST instruments and=2C especially=2C the fact tha= t very=20 > young=2C out of their bedroom programmers > are continually innovating new sound design strategies in the free/share= =20 > ware world. > Currently=2C developement of freeware VSTs is running around 20 to 1 (PC= =20 > to Mac). >=20 > Additionally=2C I personally love several programs that not only run=20 > solely on Windows but also > have no true equivalents in the Mac world (my favorite addiction is=20 > FLStudio producers edition > and then a bunch of proprietary small standalone programs like Tuareg=20 > and Granulab). I also=2C personally > just really like the Sony family of programs that used to be Sonic=20 > Foundry.....Sound Forge=2C Vegas Video=2C > Acid=2C et. al. So I prefer the PC side of things. >=20 > But it all comes with a price and that is a lot of working tweaking=20 > things so that your system will run smoothly. > OS X just runs well out of the box. >=20 > The downside of all of this is that I don't have a lot of money and the=20 > Mac world is just more of an > upper middle class kind of computing solution. Peripherals cost more=20 > money and Mac is constantly > figuring out ways to keep people using their stuff (my headphone jack=20 > just quit working because standard > sized mini plug headphones trip a switch that make the headphone out an=20 > optical out ---- solution: > only buy more expensive Mac peripherals..........that stuff is maddening= =20 > to me. >=20 > Lastly=2C talking to the people at the so called 'Genius Bar' told me= =20 > that they assume that their laptops > will run for 4-5 years=2C so be prepared to be buying a MacBook Pro at=20 > that frequency. >=20 > I spent $3=2C500 on mine =2C fully tricked out=2C and a vastly better o= ne=20 > was in place within a years' time at > half the price. >=20 > To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro=2C be prepared to pay an=20 > extra $600. > Figure that out against the $200 or so it will cost you on a PC laptop. >=20 > Admittedly=2C I have only an anecdotal horror story with my MacBook Pro= -- > $4=2C000 of repairs in 4 years=2C covered by the warranty and extra $300= =20 > Apple Care 'insurance) but > I know many people who haven't had a single problem with the exact same=20 > model=2C so I believe > I just have bad karma with Apple............ >=20 > After all was said and done I figured that I could have purchased two=20 > phenomenal > PC laptops (one off the internet for audio=2C one on for video and web=20 > browsing) and a very high quality > Video Projector and Screen and still had change in my pocket. Given= =20 > my problems with my > laptop=2C I wish I had. >=20 > rick walker >=20 = --_963b1694-35b8-4f67-9db3-d36e7947de24_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick I'm totally with you on these points. I find Apple's corporate tie-ins= quite repugnant. Apple this and apple that=2C making you buy their proprie= tary accesories- Sony are the same and I avoid their products for the same = reasons.
I'm with you on the grass roots development of everything from = VST's=2C (=3B-) to sequencers to VJstuff etc
I have a vision of ordinary= people designing the means of music production and distribution. Designing= tools for music generation=2C processing=2C sequencing=2C interactivity=2C= distribution and consumption. It's an exciting prospect made possible by d= int of the internet.
God Bless the Global village!
There's a snob va= lue to macs that I dislike too but that's probably because I'm permanantly = skintocks!

Peace

G

>=3B Date: Tue=2C 22 Feb 2011 16:= 25:02 -0800
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: supersimples@= gmail.com
>=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subje= ct: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro
>=3B
>=3B On 7/22/64 11:= 59 AM=2C Rafael Nunes wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B As much as I= want to want the Mac=2C I feel like the wise thing is to
>=3B >=3B= get a PC. Am I crazy?
>=3B From my perspective=2C and I'm not nearly= as knowledgeable as many on
>=3B this list (read Per Boysen=2C Jeff = Larson=2C
>=3B Andy Butler=2C et. al.)=2C if you have a lot of
>= =3B money=2C then I'd go with the new MacBook Pros because you can run
&= gt=3B OS X and Win 7 simultaneously using Boot Camp.
>=3B
>=3B T= his allows you to do your websurfing and email correspondance without
&= gt=3B great a great fear of viruses
>=3B and then to run whatever audi= o you want on either OS.
>=3B
>=3B On the down side of purchasin= g a Mac=2C I have these feelings:
>=3B
>=3B I=2C personally=2C = love VST instruments and=2C especially=2C the fact that very
>=3B you= ng=2C out of their bedroom programmers
>=3B are continually innovating= new sound design strategies in the free/share
>=3B ware world.
&g= t=3B Currently=2C developement of freeware VSTs is running around 20 to 1 = (PC
>=3B to Mac).
>=3B
>=3B Additionally=2C I personally = love several programs that not only run
>=3B solely on Windows but al= so
>=3B have no true equivalents in the Mac world (my favorite addict= ion is
>=3B FLStudio producers edition
>=3B and then a bunch of = proprietary small standalone programs like Tuareg
>=3B and Granulab).= I also=2C personally
>=3B just really like the Sony family of progr= ams that used to be Sonic
>=3B Foundry.....Sound Forge=2C Vegas Video= =2C
>=3B Acid=2C et. al. So I prefer the PC side of things.
>= =3B
>=3B But it all comes with a price and that is a lot of working t= weaking
>=3B things so that your system will run smoothly.
>=3B = OS X just runs well out of the box.
>=3B
>=3B The downside of al= l of this is that I don't have a lot of money and the
>=3B Mac world = is just more of an
>=3B upper middle class kind of computing solution.= Peripherals cost more
>=3B money and Mac is constantly
>=3B fi= guring out ways to keep people using their stuff (my headphone jack
&g= t=3B just quit working because standard
>=3B sized mini plug headphone= s trip a switch that make the headphone out an
>=3B optical out ---- = solution:
>=3B only buy more expensive Mac peripherals..........that s= tuff is maddening
>=3B to me.
>=3B
>=3B Lastly=2C talkin= g to the people at the so called 'Genius Bar' told me
>=3B that they= assume that their laptops
>=3B will run for 4-5 years=2C so be prepa= red to be buying a MacBook Pro at
>=3B that frequency.
>=3B
= >=3B I spent $3=2C500 on mine =2C fully tricked out=2C and a vastly bet= ter one
>=3B was in place within a years' time at
>=3B half the = price.
>=3B
>=3B To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro=2C = be prepared to pay an
>=3B extra $600.
>=3B Figure that out aga= inst the $200 or so it will cost you on a PC laptop.
>=3B
>=3B = Admittedly=2C I have only an anecdotal horror story with my MacBook Pro--<= br>>=3B $4=2C000 of repairs in 4 years=2C covered by the warranty and ex= tra $300
>=3B Apple Care 'insurance) but
>=3B I know many people= who haven't had a single problem with the exact same
>=3B model=2C s= o I believe
>=3B I just have bad karma with Apple............
>= =3B
>=3B After all was said and done I figured that I could have purc= hased two
>=3B phenomenal
>=3B PC laptops (one off the internet = for audio=2C one on for video and web
>=3B browsing) and a very high = quality
>=3B Video Projector and Screen and still had change in my poc= ket. Given
>=3B my problems with my
>=3B laptop=2C I wish = I had.
>=3B
>=3B rick walker
>=3B
= --_963b1694-35b8-4f67-9db3-d36e7947de24_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 07:44:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07881183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=gFp8eY5eBI4GqiRzUMkNnO7ZermTeWPPCaAhnnf41ME=; b=N+RKRbBUlqFKh9Du724fhuVFou7M0WZLXJoH5KixqXkw8osQYKxGrf/zZpGXx8RhFL 6TVtp0RmVg3EJb038z0xYoMMo7/Mgb9xDin2+i/p5CRFzfAUkMauLjGNA89d7DxawSLL 9aJI1P5sT5x013Nkvke+yRa4PA2s4aCoz0yxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=nddi9yP3Ta+crieDSphN9E9chvoxpRqqpgJGXDEEeUBhMNNtbPvhwqtNpUrgpMeRiw Vfq0Hd47CvzUEEJ3JEIPJMgre8/OR8p1heUoJMxWaXGG4uj/d5bpptuiIeN5cIB/fvKJ +/ARt+4244t0dfYJ8XfgZJqfatvBGPIXk1QMk= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:44:02 +0100 Message-ID: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <6rwDzD.A.tdD.rrLZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) On 23 Feb 2011, at 03:31, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I was brought up to believe that this world was created for man and we were given dominion over it Well there's the problem right there.... Good point... Cos of this stupid belief man has successfully ruined the planet... If only more people believed that the planet created us.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 07:50:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 943E0183466; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EQ5f6NIgM+Pok5JRHTU1eaXeci0I3ncVXh6CuJqgtfg=; b=NOJ3OwRFtkBwpkUNUo/wIA4/ckxZkwf/1+bQ7KmhLJmRxlezlnVeijUOfdlm7bvPoO 5Aqoo+keQlBzvTBt2RTRHAJySPJ2P2A0KlKFU8Mpw3QxgZ3C5OW/nPpj6RWNA+4Y5Y/o qQBx3TSjgn28lfcsltMPrRQeo/kspj/Hww/LU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=gX7Q/ZSAdbG56X9Bhs/1S8vv7aCF56omgrWJZeUtSc5zV3SIXyJOUehcAf5oXIvzlz Dl8PVaHU7g5Py+1J+kdDjq6vW7J17YZL03Wxb2ci+k6plAf2OHDnOokRkCJuwMR1LuZ/ zKiOhpZKD6XsC3DtX3iiArYYzdWHGuWSEYU5I= References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:49:51 +0100 Message-ID: <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:50:31 +0000 (UTC) What's that exactly??? A pro video card? On a laptop? Never needed one for nuffink.... It's not a PC... It just works when you buy it... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 23 Feb 2011, at 01:25, Rick Walker wrote: > To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro, be prepared to pay an extra $600. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 08:32:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A670718347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 204740.78890.bm@omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298449970; bh=GkZ2Ha6W0v/m9b7RT5mJmBFq9F7OLOCAUEIyak7ty28=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hR485dRgtFXKUiKCWkUAzgLW8pyBMzlZpEn+gBATKN6Em1Ifwazd227W6+09N8sSNX3QB9oDEJnddJi+KZnwUCYmoWxUvP41uIkJ9im5TWMzH46Jurh0GGLzTc3i9vMaiTIl/EK4yzHGqQqVkqXe7XXKsfaQLZRLMVXwiDlX81M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ptYBsdoswdqdBHqPb+ltj9XHYWX4XJ0Uax+K9S1wSN/k5XAF+k1b3yeqBwbnsFoFSwYXH8NfQY6scj2goJspRdFva3tlM6lkGAVgHK6Qqw3BWfTJAZI3EwD5MxjIwJ//lhy+EmWtWGBh5bQ3Be7GIaLYJcoWYXvthqzA1QhXUng=; Message-ID: <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: atK_xFAVM1moSb6qJyqqebhGlX5k5mHsdd19LFtO0n9xgIy 2pAO5cmLa7vg53god.64BOWhpMNYt_cmTFb3zDqfe8xXGlCzJ19q3Em.s8rR rLVfLlw.577atFKi3wBcvakU9B02k2gKmH1iWgC2Vknpcua4Ti2phZRrKBHY BKADB0IDMtvoNQVkugEskPX81t4ZuZKXgDNro26wspKttU6irLPu80nU66F9 pkpt8f1cqV_DwB83qh9.o_41CJwSGCa12DeSRSi4KX.W3AKqOsS50PoWidMO TXeOzmH9P4x7pZutcgKxk X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1749881846-1298449969=:57653" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:32:51 +0000 (UTC) --0-1749881846-1298449969=:57653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind; will we fulfill that mission? Read Now or Never by Tim Flannery ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:44:02 AM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On 23 Feb 2011, at 03:31, Richard Atkinson wrote: > I was brought up to believe that this world was created for man and we were >given dominion over it Well there's the problem right there.... Good point... Cos of this stupid belief man has successfully ruined the planet... If only more people believed that the planet created us.... --0-1749881846-1298449969=:57653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind; will we fulfill that mission?

Read Now or Never by Tim Flannery

From: mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 8:44:02 AM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On 23 Feb 2011, at 03:31, Richard Atkinson <thetoyroom@charter.net> wrote:

>  I was brought up to believe that this world was created for man and we were given dominion over it

Well there's the problem right there.... Good point... Cos of this
stupid belief man has successfully ruined the planet... If only more
people believed that the planet created us....


--0-1749881846-1298449969=:57653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 09:14:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64EA183474; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6a02d510-d2ed-4595-861e-7f5f1fad4462_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:14:32 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid>,<84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 09:14:32.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[14FFBF60:01CBD33A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:14:34 +0000 (UTC) --_6a02d510-d2ed-4595-861e-7f5f1fad4462_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are=2C of course=2C part of the planet. I reckon it's our inability to u= nderstand that point that causes a lack of respect for the whole of life. Most of the cultures that understood it have been ruined/wiped out by the o= nslaught of colonialism.=20 peace Gareth Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 00:32:49 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind=3B = will we fulfill that mission? Read Now or Never by Tim Flannery From: mark francombe To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Wed=2C February 23=2C 2011 8:44:02 AM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On 23 Feb 2011=2C at 03:31=2C Richard Atkinson wro= te: > I was brought up to believe that this world was created for man and we w= ere given dominion over it Well there's the problem right there.... Good point... Cos of this stupid belief man has successfully ruined the planet... If only more people believed that the planet created us.... = --_6a02d510-d2ed-4595-861e-7f5f1fad4462_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are=2C of course=2C part of the planet. I reckon it's our inability to u= nderstand that point that causes a lack of respect for the whole of life.Most of the cultures that understood it have been ruined/wiped out by the= onslaught of colonialism.

peace

Gareth


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Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 00:32:49 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.= com
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com

not only the planet created us but it created us with a = purpose in mind=3B will we fulfill that mission?

R= ead Now or Never by Tim Flannery

From: mark francombe <=3Bmarkfrancombe@gmail.com>=3B
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com" <=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
Sent: Wed=2C February 23=2C 2011 8:44:02 A= M
Subject: Re: 2045: = The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On 23 Feb 2011=2C at 03:31=2C Richard Atkinson <=3Bthetoyroom@charter.net>=3B wrote:

>=3B&n= bsp=3B I was brought up to believe that this world was created for man and = we were given dominion over it

Well there's the problem right there.= ... Good point... Cos of this
stupid belief man has successfully ruined = the planet... If only more
people believed that the planet created us...= .


= --_6a02d510-d2ed-4595-861e-7f5f1fad4462_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 09:42:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F53183474; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=InF9h8rEcIkYeIHrYwT3pNu8nJ/1SRroSAvT+ECpQcA=; b=s8x2dEi4YWxWZVOdrQfeZXLk4S21VJp4JPanXI5CDNeBPD4kKiU776vZZDnBPtNxbK 8YEtCcZ7mD8T2Ida2nxGKamRuLE2Ljv/eKfOcxqvQ3oy7BYF7H5wRjeeMgq8KP/diEWK 4J3RA/LrckkJS/HDfisHMXwbUZMDrQdSlpMvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qEPi0y//gC+/Kkvp3luDi8wMUiZu7AckkjuGU1W04iMbCV4MyP9kigPKs5BJOt5YQq jDNT+iDU/iPl3ZKZZNi1mjTj0eifSbTNfobxbHusvKxzh/c7Rh/nQiEFY7synGNp9CoH SdAXQrxl2/wD71Opdp73LT4XaiEjnHF4OjF3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:42:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a70f1a77dc049cefeb8b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:42:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a70f1a77dc049cefeb8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand.* To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --20cf3054a70f1a77dc049cefeb8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
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--20cf3054a70f1a77dc049cefeb8b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 09:50:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BE42183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584206320/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.11/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.11 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjICABdnZE1YbRwL/2dsb2JhbAAMmA3MDIVeBI9F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,211,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584206320" Message-ID: <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:50:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon wrote: > Someone doesn't like radiohead > :-) every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead sound like" ...then I forget andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 10:10:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FF8183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=T/gsNPNPzOc+aO0x/lIGsXiL4kJjYp1JqYcbgb7KhPg=; b=twBmVHx9rDd5W8t0CeeiFHF1oSLLwpnFi85V9wE0wxrGqW6ijD0f82gHZnJ7qc5zAU Dp/wU1v8Guhcobh7QA1DaXuduAHE3jNJVYmdJjro4F7tWXsisd1A/6OG9FijPr6F15QX YdpBpHJ1hcIF33C0ozr7u2JOLQ86jsyHF6ueg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tdwQrRBH77osFItblkz9dT+hMzGFlz6GbHrajhsfIegTsGT6OBfffbywntm2b4msaz Hk7XKCoZx6BSLBFsf9jFSqy+1uIahoxC+Nc4Wvo5vrwW8klmvoEL6s1dOpcfN3YN7Tdp N1uq8HpqngaFS2fqYPE3SxEBkBp+R622a89AU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:09:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7op96SGcICFq-N80phT19g2-jiM Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9196db32c8049cf04df0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:10:20 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9196db32c8049cf04df0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Im with you Andy.. In my office theyve been going on and on about getting this early d/l copy of the album, so much so Ive been getting quite exited myself... then it came.. and I go... er.. Ahhh.. OK! So that was that... I do love bits and bobs of Kid A... but taken as a whole, they really are not THAT experimental... and basically sound like a mish-mash of all the "indie" bands of the last 15 years, from MBV to Ride, to Bark Psychosis (you wont know that one, but a bit of a fave of mine.. radiohead definitely know them...) to Coldplay... and it all kind sounds a bit like Talk Talk from one of their two good albums... But its nice to see a stadium rock band on their knees, twiddling with the effect pedals... even if it doesn't sound anything tooooo special... a bit special... but not really worth the HUGE RUMPUS!! Mark On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:50 AM, andy butler wrote: > Matt Davignon wrote: > >> Someone doesn't like radiohead >> >> > :-) > > > every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead sound > like" > > ...then I forget > > andy > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016363b9196db32c8049cf04df0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im with you Andy.. In my office theyve been going on and on about getting t= his early d/l copy of the album, so much so Ive been getting quite exited m= yself... then it came.. and I go... er.. Ahhh.. OK! So that was that...

I do love bits and bobs of Kid A... but taken as a whole, they really a= re not THAT experimental... and basically sound like a mish-mash of all the= "indie" bands of the last 15 years, from MBV to Ride, to Bark Ps= ychosis (you wont know that one, but a bit of a fave of mine.. radiohead de= finitely know them...) to Coldplay... and it all kind sounds a bit like Tal= k Talk from one of their two good albums...

But its nice to see a stadium rock band on their knees, twiddling with = the effect pedals... even if it doesn't sound anything tooooo special..= . a bit special... but not really worth the HUGE RUMPUS!!

Mark




On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:50 AM= , andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Matt Davignon wrote:
Someone doesn't like radiohead


:-)


every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead s= ound like"

...then I forget

andy




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--0015173ff398c97592049cf09ec1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 11:21:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE9CB183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 769243.39116.bm@omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ap6QJsHzNKMnsyp7Btst1cgehRBVogihVfR+YsCUlWBf25WHnWFLl5+KP5enULWl+aAnVKTTxJlXRneyL6gmB4Ss7VNVDXqWMSh3dVsAaAMqTu7JirzfNMyjIF2TRAhSo9xJPJA+e7N1sujulUcFgUgZQJLImaQruDnaXjLJtQM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298460063; bh=rHyx/XmDnKX3WpVg6v80M5QyU+wAr/0DzdPU6r6vtCM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=1VJOQoFOEBqJYeK5BLE2ly34xnZkYuflxpXXC1lVZZxkJeuAWgKpPa327VOSCyxdztWsqVDKFSSn9cjWit9wDYO5nXRDmfN83sVGgLoBi3VIpumXiE4jqAqM6PRYAzwuffBoz0lWops3/QNMzGVJEjufOI3MdgxXqPTgFt6swDY= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: YLpS4iwVM1lUd7oUaWH_bPGBxhUq9KeHeSoJhN_vDb.5rA1 9y5riwub6yb2TmeVv7dO2ZbVPkn__1oh588R7gaPdZuF9FGv3jpm1l.g7l_U wNn1jKFaoYfFBeoVTVJAezlgF8hxqdga09jNv.EvsISW9KT6aIMw1UhWCMpr iIe.BbAfoqU.vQBRB0GChURciAgwOXq1VUD7IliCRMwCY8W9jV5TetHcbO5r PYWdbZ1RbiZSKpDUcho2_veFRghSjjleCo09iQi91Vo43wESrSBkADSS2x6X 85hQ3t1RZ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-81-177791835 Message-Id: <8D39D218-760B-4AC9-A55C-66EE7DE57444@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:20:55 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:21:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-81-177791835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed i now know how to market experimental music to a mainstream audience. You stick the word Radiohead on it. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 23 Feb 2011, at 09:50, andy butler wrote: > Matt Davignon wrote: >> Someone doesn't like radiohead > > :-) > > > every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead > sound like" > > ...then I forget > > andy > --Apple-Mail-81-177791835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII i now know how to market experimental music to a mainstream = audience.

You stick the word Radiohead on = it.

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 23 Feb 2011, = at 09:50, andy butler wrote:

Matt Davignon wrote:
Someone doesn't like = radiohead

:-)


every time I hear them, I think = "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead sound like"

...then = I forget

andy


= --Apple-Mail-81-177791835-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 11:38:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C33183473; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=z3BiLYFgLYaIQ2m/J9J5YJrTHRlO0J1MPumFMywjiPk=; b=f1oS682mGW93/zjZ07qNxSFAIm17DgTv5Jb+zX6o/mHUBzYASaiy40gwFxO3m9NCLW kmylAjw0WfCOGjS1HPDiN6jMEh5Am4TDgzGHxrWQO6sA+pyz7hGZ8wsb0Hb+MmP6aHPz hjw6DODKZ/JUz03x7beYcWXc2JgAxtRKsLAJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=SdtuTqBnwGg60g5KdrjoKkk9pAV94NE3AQPe3jVmEXWqGB5qAxBaZwCp29vCtMw5lr leGh+51cZF5dEkc4TER/juyUn7edInaDae9xm5pTQb+lQn36Ez0MxasvMNm4iFRbLnwZ djUkEcwv2OGbWbpVV7HeuL7axuP0VA02QTHes= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8D39D218-760B-4AC9-A55C-66EE7DE57444@btinternet.com> References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> <8D39D218-760B-4AC9-A55C-66EE7DE57444@btinternet.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:37:47 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G6IyL3W2UOIFEAiHSwhxvPMOsb8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f9c56dd9a03049cf18744 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016367f9c56dd9a03049cf18744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one? On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > i now know how to market experimental music to a mainstream audience. > > You stick the word Radiohead on it. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 23 Feb 2011, at 09:50, andy butler wrote: > > Matt Davignon wrote: > > Someone doesn't like radiohead > > > :-) > > > every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that's* what Radiohead sound > like" > > ...then I forget > > andy > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016367f9c56dd9a03049cf18744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 b= ands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one?

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Matt Stevens <mattsteven= sguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
i now know how to market experimental music to a mainstream audience.
=
You stick the word Radiohead on it.


On 23 Feb 2011, at 09:50, andy butler wrote:
<= br>
Matt Davignon wrot= e:
Someone doesn't = like radiohead

:-)


every time I hear them, I think "ahh, so *that'= s* what Radiohead sound like"

...then I forget

andy

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--0016367f9c56dd9a03049cf18744-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 11:42:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6AE183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v+OUgtVwVLNJPCOMxHhQ4qhUVpyIh6RvYSH097T/MHQ=; b=Zv2BJ2PRSiAQaEA9c8dH/nRkBW2FeM5jzxmjMivKoQDEJ53+kuD8Q4n7keXrMdST4m 5JCL2L58AnTFRkMs1RQHGlim8v6ksv10Wr1Oy+eqFpCndvnAyKdilUc7ZWzFpbReMH4P pSQNW/AVwu2hAh59LvaZD1HiWWyk738ROhDjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Nd4HuEvdprc7rBuXzEz0TvzXi0FFkxsq2mY2hYyW4ld/ig5BK/l+6PEbcVWz4hTUGY rS1/rY/jP86/g78s4IW9e8KvN+rnEwFrAdhCv+HAF7fT2KHrsmkWNuY5XMhkll24UNrU qNxYDANkwYyC5/9p+3wZCzS9bhnr7ZN22SLCw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> <8D39D218-760B-4AC9-A55C-66EE7DE57444@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:42:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:42:07 +0000 (UTC) I think someone mentioned that word somewhere in the nineties... and then others have repeated it over the years. Well, just a guess ;-) Per Gynt On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 > bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 12:02:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7D318347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IE8RCG1AdfQUGKjEVg3evyPDt8XsKa64WAPtsbFVFic=; b=ryJ6omW88uLed4ETDRx2hboaSvydbnbhdCj7b5DeORQqrC+C9kV34c/6/4OBThXXrc HJw8pMUoHyHekYYydGz6BIY3otwlTbKV2HW0bi8U5HOP3T2Lvl152Hb3PqxofJZGP+kM RQ9Ho1faO1VC8ZxarMO7sCHt3z1BAHvLaJNd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gf4XzEq0IkwRdGW8B6mQgW0PS2rfrP/bFH30DQS3ONza1xzT+eTehhMW+o7voDhPP7 zxVwhk3EWH0IP2v2rnOfRkFAdZ/t3R67Obcx6fMgXlrWmCi0OczzLiEZ7j7AXTtH11gB +obv+qq/ES2+IWzbIn+OztRWYFzmq5zCb9XcU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:02:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:02:56 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind; The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. My tiny human mind of the curious kind wants date with Planet Mind. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 12:05:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83A47183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4VIyhj4/sJu/zXvKgZj5RfjZYLy86wkUP2N46H5Hhq4=; b=eZyTedpUBVLO7AGdXgaXEu/XfuCILpEey/DmOlIvuH6Y91cumB5khVckg72flXrTrm UdnULN9dvhVYvPa0MaqVWX9jSzMiFuIVDjVfApLYrZqet+sTCuyisPZ/4OesHUO719f0 EI8rUpIePzyWunqIkF1nbKryAcEec1ZeKBHI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dl+qSbiSvkfRbgU4syoi+AHCey6KrYB/PS5J2g064H+3ElvhNL6NcI0OIOLU6yR2wM aMU8fCYfWLhAivdp6qcyLL+ZuFGNk4MthSW6Iu3rR99aeQBPCV+4wqRGQuT/U9Q8zZaH 0ZiZ9f7ZuRq2SbrL0dTUOKt8Sbgpg4jOwUMKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:05:50 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e604fc2bda049cf1ea28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:05:51 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e604fc2bda049cf1ea28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 make a mac version!!! pretty please sim On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi Bill, > Yeah, I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's > patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have to > confess, you were in my mind when I tested that feature out. > I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon. > > Peace > > g > > --00151750e604fc2bda049cf1ea28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 make a mac version!!!

pretty please

sim

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Bill,
Yeah, I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have to confess, you were in my mind when I tested that feature out.
I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon.

Peace

g

--00151750e604fc2bda049cf1ea28-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 12:13:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EBCB183479; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S/7uhwdj5ihBzzHfTh474VRx0nQ2EhBixCQGNVFpuTg=; b=BJFXkwSsplour4K701k/H86REfi0efElxR6mXSMGBnddMeH8kyX9DzGWlksUUJKfnD 25eA2LkHrUVDIQ7uSV4JjuDiWeWMq0T7N+8PRS9BZl//s5egc8MBkG8N4BwmOgxl7fCc P2zg2a/eVk4rC+1Fx3I9q7dmPe3FppIRqnb6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PZc8o9seKLXWiF7A61ui1c9MP/vFt8A1byNH0Hmma3fOOgHAMU/xuIqfZaUTN0s8Hj HlheXV+/cDCGTMXEtdlVtES/47GHmddSCRUnG04TeTjfc10kh+E9pqdND3skJF4ufuLu O/xOk4YnBCn8uf21Op1gSO2rto/A18V1VcHkg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110221234805.DB867183474@arsenic.violacea.com> <853149.34388.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D64D872.3060206@tiscali.co.uk> <8D39D218-760B-4AC9-A55C-66EE7DE57444@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:13:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054ac8b24da1c049cf207f0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:13:56 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054ac8b24da1c049cf207f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In my book, in the page that talks about experimental, I find this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFMEfWCDXmQ&feature=related After all these years, this is one of the most beautiful songs written to human voice. 2011/2/23 Per Boysen > I think someone mentioned that word somewhere in the nineties... and > then others have repeated it over the years. Well, just a guess ;-) > > Per Gynt > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 > > bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one? > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054ac8b24da1c049cf207f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In my book, in the page that talks about experimental, I find this:

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After all these years, this is one of the most beautiful songs written to h= uman voice.


2011/2/23 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
I think someone m= entioned that word somewhere in the nineties... and
then others have repeated it over the years. Well, just a guess ;-)

Per Gynt


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are ther= e 2
> bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one?




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--20cf3054ac8b24da1c049cf207f0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 12:18:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F57A183482; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D64FB0F.1060209@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:18:23 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_S7IYB.A.d2B.XsPZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:18:32 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > What's that exactly??? A pro video card? On a laptop? Never needed one > for nuffink.... It's not a PC... It just works when you buy it... > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 23 Feb 2011, at 01:25, Rick Walker wrote: > >> To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro, be prepared to pay an extra $600. Well, when I bought it, I was advised by many people..........'plunk down the cash and get the 'pro' video card and not the standard one included. Maybe I got suckered by Mac hype, but for once in my life, with a modest inheritance from my father who passed away, I was able to afford what I thought was a state of the art computer. Only from my anecdotal experience, it was the single most expensive and worst purchase of my life. I know many people have great experiences with them, but my experience has been a nightmare. yours, rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 12:25:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41D6518347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f01fbc49-043f-4095-ba1b-40832a077a10_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:25:52 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 12:25:52.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFC3CB60:01CBD354] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:25:53 +0000 (UTC) --_f01fbc49-043f-4095-ba1b-40832a077a10_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a feeling that more mac users would be up for this - if there are en= ough takers=2C I might bite!=20 It'll take a lot more work on my part though.. Gareth Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:05:50 +0000 Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com make a mac version!!! pretty please sim On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 5:27 AM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Hi Bill=2C=20 Yeah=2C I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's p= atched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have to c= onfess=2C you were in my mind when I tested that feature out. I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon. Peace g = --_f01fbc49-043f-4095-ba1b-40832a077a10_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a feeling that more mac users would be up for this - if there are en= ough takers=2C I might bite!
It'll take a lot more work on my part thou= gh..

Gareth


Sentientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins= . http://sentientfx.co= m/



Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:0= 5:50 +0000
Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth
From: sim= eonharris40@googlemail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
make a mac version!!!

pretty please

sim

On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 5:27 AM=2C Gareth Whittock = <=3Bbuddham= achine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
Hi Bill=2C
Yeah=2C I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their D= AWs too. It's patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides = and I have to confess=2C you were in my mind when I tested that feature out= .
I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon.

Peace
g

= --_f01fbc49-043f-4095-ba1b-40832a077a10_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 13:55:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE32183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:55:29 UTC Message-ID: <313734b6dc4c0eb63482b14b7da653cc.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com>,, Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:48:48 -0400 Subject: RE: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Andr=E9_Donawa=22?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_nxoGC.A.vJE.RHRZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gareth, This looks interesting. Been away from the laptop side of looping for a couple years now maybe this will be the one to bring me back. Please keep me in the loop, Andre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQUViJmpg4 http://barbadosguitar.com/wordpress On Wed, February 23, 2011 8:25 am, Gareth Whittock wrote: > > I have a feeling that more mac users would be up for this - if there are > enough takers, I might bite! > It'll take a lot more work on my part though.. > > Gareth > > > Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:05:50 +0000 > Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth > From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > make a mac version!!! > > pretty please > > sim > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > Yeah, I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's > patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have to > confess, you were in my mind when I tested that feature out. > > I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon. > > Peace > > g > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 14:22:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7EF183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YdmbFxtPssWg/SVFSbdswXLli8AAHM/TVgWlr+Z1r5M=; b=XDLGqh8vWDvFLrK62g5Rk/r+KreeNubqCuLW772VtmoZiSgDsrPrt6acwKzs36iFE4 ehdfv2/Ll0WItRPBdYNWyNjgHWNLiZapUrGd02R/uRco7sRnEg6j7OqewmdY7pAfMiTv z9bXxC8uXkcr+04ewE0ANvlSfDJW9Xco73/k8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tICjQFUnQT/YCG8tYB8mNQh/PRJhWYo2+C11InFjZq7CClMZYkBGvI1kSWRZueoffK GXXP8xXzfGqhNWBOMtb1lsQwd+bctnqT3tp3preaqAvUwkE0tjaflF8i4cU6hSCLdLuX vA71hoX04XXziSCXWHl0uAn3X8ccotE7obHXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:22:22 +0000 (UTC) :P ... that's funny, Mark! (It's also what my wife said when she bought her first iMac (2nd Gen), after she plugged it in, fired it up and was immediately surfing!) Look, ALL computers are capable of having problems. Be aware of it, be prepared for it and then be pleasantly surprised if you don't have any major issues with yours. Per and I both are recommending that since Rafael has said he has the budget to afford Apple hardware, but that he's a PC guy, that he go ahead and buy the Mac and ONLY run Windows on it...that doesn't tie him into the Apple software upgrade chain and really doesn't tie him in to their hardware chain either, since he will be dedicating it to audio/music use (if I understood his original post). (Something we all need to consider is dedicating the machine to ONE use and ONLY loading our audio/music software on the machine...doing that can mean actually using a lesser computer to do the job and save some money for those pricey pedals and plug-ins! It's one reason I've been researching using netbooks as dedicated processing units.) Those of you who have bought Apple hardware and suffered from the "an even faster/bigger, etc.," model being released a year later seem to be forgetting that, in general, Apple hardware has a much longer life cycle than the PCs (not to discount the experience Rick has had...yes, even they have made lemons!). So even if you bought yours at the end of the cycle, you'll still get more life out of it than if you bought a PC and had the same thing happen (thinking of all the Dell and H-P PCs I've had at work where this has been the case). On the last three campuses I've worked at, the Macs have barely figured in the "hardware refresh" cycle...the PCs have been on 2-3 year hardware refresh cycles, while the Macs have been in the 3-5 year range. Of course, that means that when it comes time to replace the Macs, there's a lot of catching up to do, but that's usually in the software side. Rafael, go ahead and pull the trigger on the Mac, use BootCamp to run Windows 7 and be happy... Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:49 AM, mark francombe wrote: > What's that exactly??? A pro video card? On a laptop? Never needed one > for nuffink.... It's not a PC... It just works when you buy it... > > Sent from my (advertisement removed) > > On 23 Feb 2011, at 01:25, Rick Walker wrote: > >> To get a pro video card in your MacBook Pro, =A0be prepared to pay an ex= tra $600. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 14:24:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01765183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MXoUMV8yiafTLZUYUbVnWlEyPFp4IJBkK3IYKSGNUA0=; b=CR05eeNBk9HY/QG1FDmcglst/+SENt7xoKhLegtZgBjjq8q5BbPazUByBxIBxKxgZV ZAGJTXhFYcv6Qxxct5LO8dXu1X1MsY54jIQ4CJ7vCbv0uREC0c1uSstcvOemm3930Ms7 09mBL+oZMrkrSxFF68QQXdagBeGbJru7MaSmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U7RUQAdEo2Cdg8a9TUgSwDpx6liSXKE4TlLuo+wcZmn4jLozfDX5Su6NW1FZY/ivrm 7bviFX2iyzUIPIQ9n/ToAy95HQOg2BrSZmOIkzGOLd1C77i4i2P27WihYtWCBr2tKvzJ 1c0g1pyPH5q9AfB58LXt4J44M4s4ZQk89DTkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:24:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Gareth, Count me in...I'd be happy to do some serious beta work for you with it...and yes, I'm a Mac user so VST or AU makes me a happy camper. (We only have one PC that's still a PC and my wife uses it for some specialized quilting software...the other two PCs are little Dell MINI netbooks that are happy little "Hackintoshes" running bidule and my plug-ins!) Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > I have a feeling that more mac users would be up for this - if there are > enough takers, I might bite! > It'll take a lot more work on my part though.. > > Gareth > > > Sentientfx -=A0 Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > > > > ________________________________ > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:05:50 +0000 > Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth > From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > make a mac version!!! > > pretty please > > sim > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Gareth Whittock > wrote: > > Hi Bill, > Yeah, I'm hoping guitarists will integrate it into their DAWs too. It's > patched in like an insert effect. You can use it with slides and I have t= o > confess, you were in my mind when I tested that feature out. > I'll definately keep you posted - a video is coming up soon. > > Peace > > g > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 14:25:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8190183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:25:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1436120469.1536183.1298471149200.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1536182_456996267.1298471149188" X-Originating-IP: [146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:25:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1536182_456996267.1298471149188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rick, I love mine. I do agree with Bob on the switch could be better but that would be the only con. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "RP Collier" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:42:24 PM Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote: Satisfied customers? Critiques? Hi Rick I like it. At this point my only complaint would be that it does not use batteries so the dreaded wall wart limitations prevail. The button click is a bit loud if you are working in lower volume/quieter mode. It will be interesting to see how long the foot button lasts since in certain types of music making it gets used a lot. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego ------=_Part_1536182_456996267.1298471149188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hi Rick,<= br>
I love mine.  I do agree with Bob on the switch could be better= but that would be the only con.

Chris


----- Original Mes= sage -----
From: "RP Collier" <skeptikalist@gmail.com>
To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:42:24= PM
Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer


On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

Satisfied customers?   Critiques?

Hi Rick

I like it.
At this= point my only complaint would be that it does not use batteries so the dre= aded wall wart limitations prevail.

The button cli= ck is a bit loud if you are working in lower volume/quieter mode.

It will be interesting to see how long the foot button last= s since in certain types of music making it gets used a lot.

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regards

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------=_Part_1536182_456996267.1298471149188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 14:33:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8208183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:33:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1536799_1961963655.1298471584629" X-Originating-IP: [146.243.4.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1536799_1961963655.1298471584629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It could be called a looper only if your definition is extremely broad. The slice of time it grabs is a small fraction of a second. It's tend to think of it as more of "sample and hold" sort of thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:25:20 PM Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer Has anyone experienced this pedal? It's obviously a micro looper. Seems cool. Satisfied customers? Critiques? Inquiring minds are curious. rick walker ------=_Part_1536799_1961963655.1298471584629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It could be called a looper only if your definition is extremely broad.  The slice of time it grabs is a small fraction of a second.  It's tend to think of it as  more of "sample and hold" sort of thing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:25:20 PM
Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer

Has anyone experienced this pedal?

It's obviously a micro looper.    Seems cool.

Satisfied customers?   Critiques?

Inquiring minds are curious.


rick walker

------=_Part_1536799_1961963655.1298471584629-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 14:40:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E173183480; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=CxQNqt1ERt4pTHHXV23+TGAoPf3waXXEI4THxIY9ulk=; b=XvHqZaFSDYrY/7BKVyaFK0mLqTuOWLh0LMuyQJ0sZb0hlIbKUT8dPdbnuv8QaH+jC0 uXx44QcMe1azL55qNWoVlWwiI2bEKcIFEM4xNx3TEydKcGdimxwfjyqlclfeArgWhJn5 j0vIjMC48hciPeSfSCt6twFxAYnfMndkMxtyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=NT6dKxih4HpW6VHLwATXJKe+uP8Fn8pDinAoTfrj2pfXhUWoecyHf6i0ksv+VMowqi i/iF9X0Ros5uNWt47KUjt590xfY2R9rGF43ipVcU6foBaveJ3BlSX62rPOlFaLoHYqjX 78p2oLVeY5oqJUO5UlsluKGEN+a6wZ9iTLwZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <4D6445E0.6090308@cruzio.com> <1279861822.1536800.1298471584630.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:40:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _izndnvbaYTiZ5WBW3JZrEeuIWQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f6eb491a6e049cf41410 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:40:35 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f6eb491a6e049cf41410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I want 2 actually, with a mod that switches between one or the other... :-))) Its been on my list for a while!! Mark On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Christophe wrote: > It could be called a looper only if your definition is extremely broad. > The slice of time it grabs is a small fraction of a second. It's tend to > think of it as more of "sample and hold" sort of thing. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:25:20 PM > Subject: Electro Harmonix Freeze - Sound Retainer > > Has anyone experienced this pedal? > > It's obviously a micro looper. Seems cool. > > Satisfied customers? Critiques? > > Inquiring minds are curious. > > > rick walker > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00163630f6eb491a6e049cf41410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want 2 actually, with a mod that switches between one or the other..= .
:-)))
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Its been on my list for a while!!
=A0
Mark

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Christophe <cburke55@comcast.= net> wrote:
It could= be called a looper only if your definition is extremely broad.=A0 The slic= e of time it grabs is a small fraction of a second.=A0 It's tend to thi= nk of it as=A0 more of "sample and hold" sort of thing.=20


----- Original Message -----
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To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <= ;L= oopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:25:20 PM
Subject: Electro Harmonix Fr= eeze - Sound Retainer

Has anyone experienced this pedal?

It&#= 39;s obviously a micro looper. =A0 =A0Seems cool.

Satisfied customer= s? =A0 Critiques?

Inquiring minds are curious.


rick walker

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--00163630f6eb491a6e049cf41410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 15:32:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37D64183476; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584297819/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.11/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.11 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUCAIK3ZE1YbRwL/2dsb2JhbAAMmADLOoVeBI9F X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,212,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584297819" Message-ID: <4D65287A.5090501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:32:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Dennis Moser wrote: > in general, Apple hardware has a much longer life > cycle than the PCs with pc you can usually change just the part that breaks, I've had "the same machine" since 1995, although of course almost everything but the case has been replaced. Does that make pc's more environmentally sound? Just wondering, I'm not going jump into any pc vs mac thing. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 15:39:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B781F183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zVej06iYMLMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1J04e4iiAAAA:20 a=YHOadjb83h6MYOwMW4AA:9 a=HOd6JrhebOvvxcmnDz8OiLaczQkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:39:14 -0800 References: ,<741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <20elOB.A._2G.koSZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Ahhh, I just visited your website which does mention that it is not for Mac. I don't believe the video demo on Youtube made that especially clear. Shucks, since I'm a Mac user that puts it out of consideration for me. Sounds nice though. Oh well. On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi guys, > Just thought you might be interested in my new guitar synth VST > plugin called MONOLITH. > It's based on the old classic Minimoog i.e. monophonic, 3 > oscillators etc plus a few cool original features. > It's still under development but should be ready soon. > Please let me know what you think... > > http://http://www.youtube.com/user/Sentientfx1 > > > Peace > > Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 15:51:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFC9A183479; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=fhcmuj2VILcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=b4r2Xq5W3Xr8Rjs27EgA:9 a=rvw_dqI0TVbEDuhwHRFCRUKCeZsA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Message-Id: <00103D38-CBE8-42A6-9FDB-E4996FCCEBCF@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D65287A.5090501@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:51:25 -0800 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <4D65287A.5090501@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:51:26 +0000 (UTC) You can do the same on a Mac, BTW. I have a 2000 vintage G2 MacBook that I keep around just to run a few OS9 "classic" programs that are indispensable to me. It's gone through multiple hard drives, optical drives, wifi cards and other failings over the years but is still around and fully working. The logic board and power supply are still the same though. Those are the killers on Macs, if they go you might just as well buy a new machine. Part of Mac (laptops) problems is that they are (apparently) difficult to take apart to get at some components. But generally Macs are solid and work a long time. I've been using them since the late '80s and have worked in all-Mac offices all that time. Ted On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:32 AM, andy butler wrote: > Dennis Moser wrote: >> in general, Apple hardware has a much longer life >> cycle than the PCs > > with pc you can usually change just the part that > breaks, > I've had "the same machine" since 1995, > although of course almost everything but the case > has been replaced. > > Does that make pc's more environmentally sound? > > Just wondering, I'm not going jump into any pc vs mac thing. > > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:09:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 428C2183479; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1817 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:09:53 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: BTfa1g00303yUm20000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:39:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro In-Reply-To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:09:53 +0000 (UTC) My sister just happened to send this link (tangentially related to apple issues 1/2 way through): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI At 2011/02/23 06:21 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >On the last three campuses I've worked at, the Macs have barely >figured in the "hardware refresh" cycle...the PCs have been on 2-3 >year hardware refresh cycles, while the Macs have been in the 3-5 year >range. Of course, that means that when it comes time to replace the >Macs, there's a lot of catching up to do, but that's usually in the >software side. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:11:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 636A418347B; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PYAHQ4F2C/SGFc52p3/3QUjG0pEwcyf4xMQT95Ze5Ik=; b=tfy+j1kmLqbWETmyn56tpAM/SyPb7Rel8VjlEv1n2gtIE2W+2bn5O2PAXX27POUbe9 a7PL3GU/gwOiYN/cIrySNbvmvRcD7cIUCiThzFT5BR8L6TbvzCYjBjDnnGbjlesPv/DU idNaPg2GE8kskrHeovx9Ci5vZAN/z0gr5qaO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ie457RSQpeOyhk2IkSg8E3EnqCbLSY/cTRZuLHdTR4DZ1ADoS0+w7divv+ZnmLU4JM iii75nnOI6IYJP01hR7IvD5SR0NN3IecOTTQj9dJNKT7BP8hXdj6TkXZxFu8g4U2yKc1 vlGkMKzfIDCOZOxYsJoD+tHEJOm8cWWkkA8Nk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:09:29 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:11:20 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, =A0 wrote: >> not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind; > > The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. > > My tiny human mind > of the curious kind > wants date with Planet Mind. Ayahuasca might do it for you. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:15:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BF83183482; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JeSh1MTaUVVQAMT1r3MjTqGo1OmMurYzX+Pke1U5uhY=; b=WaG/MZ/HJATxj9ClRmZ6cIbkJ5QIwbNVT6fla2uNo61SdqE5xbFZwGl9NDWlqg+gcG YJN0d90Jnco23uZAplfwzviXgi0UmwLyHLaycoHcIXMMdD1NommxRfJHBaUCytrCyx2p OjVEdGBmtVUt3DKe0BT3p9KN4NogjmwdTAI9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rIR+37pGjZ53YzAoub5d+XWcXyvKOhkQw71ZiGFaYYcxV04Sd0Ckb270Co1wJqsgWa djkzHREaRTAHnyiqo2Dr19FnMWHwCi/7fuaVi4PZSBtR9a1jAEQdjG+SheMKgOe3lssc dsSl2Dy6RC0Fx4e/tAxv3sG/VrLljqrnG/CZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:15:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6eMpO.A.FzH.nKTZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Ha, ha, ha... lovely, Sean! "An Eggs Box" LOL!!!! Funny how the actor fights to not burst our laughing as he kicked the apple. :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > My sister just happened to send this link (tangentially related to apple > issues 1/2 way through): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:24:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28731183478; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1iATFEg4tgQ4BXF50Ikm+nwlXF14Ad8Cwitr2/xOCRs=; b=oVdWAvASBgb7cbz9twz5wtLyVigRWhLNPiiuZRH0E4BTpDBe/FOSw5i2K0C5atR7Ge yP4OFfiQ0/6SCG6J5RuUgQeSo0GFeJI0Tn5HMbxyVAB9p7iEuwyqUpP2OjjEhBEKKSMt raT/bSr9Z5yqw7yuv1ciL9SWIGnzo9415+Dwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QnhEMsUQdvO/3pdQDSvh76HgGhavv8ipuCyuG5McGYK4+oZjPPLxjvcCb8ApWU5WQr ulaVpDXwMmX8wNlGACTBJeAjKNjjFosZMhGuoTT0NoEUY5e7czbs+nwQ2o7Eu9t1eHWd CBL0WEf1vPbP9q1V3O2zym2tFDFyVUA1HrNes= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <8nzXO.A.1H.TTTZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:24:51 +0000 (UTC) >> The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. >> >> My tiny human mind >> of the curious kind >> wants date with Planet Mind. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Ayahuasca might do it for you Yeah I know, but I'd rather have that chat when, or if, it comes naturally. Thinking about poor Terrence McKenna who died from a massive brain cancer way too early. I recently got cured from a cancer attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work on the planet for a very long time. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:34:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8491A183478; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wHkXjtZV9/bOab1OCsnFO3+ivdtuGeCZJ2mW5it4Y6U=; b=Zq+jPBNMkVx+Qc9MJIVI5vI7rm2CITlIToUXr881wqwQ3BOBTrmSk5K3uNJaBCK1MJ lLosv/BodbRzZm1/T2BZjhbFFtHwm1m4nJKTXfeSjYFhlGhNEhH595gMPqStVrm/v42l pzDasYtlCRYp1TaQeAesc1PbO4Bs656BO/2nI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gWUxrEU/ls7APEOxfutGpHT6CIn7OHkF6H8lgB9+N0mpNxqD5Dx0Z6f/Bc/wga5Fxo wBY0kXAny6RnlB4OFoe4o9uRzujKffsBAhp1ClmvazwngJ5J9x/3X2MfV/uuLDehWAU8 9st30fzp1Ms0YKL+V5XB7OvmihU8i9rdjFoa8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:34:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain cancer? Just asking. And as far as Ayahuasca goes, there seems to be some decent anecdotal evidence that it has 'cured' several people of their cancers. It is after all considered a very powerful healing medicine and hasn't caused any such illness in its users that I'm aware of. Not that I'm saying you should or anything like that, I'd like to see you continue your work here for a long time as well. Kevin On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. >>> >>> My tiny human mind >>> of the curious kind >>> wants date with Planet Mind. > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> Ayahuasca might do it for you > > Yeah I know, but I'd rather have that chat when, or if, it comes > naturally. Thinking about poor Terrence McKenna who died from a > massive brain cancer way too early. I recently got cured from a cancer > attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work > on the planet for a very long time. > > Per > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:48:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B7B5183479; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sy/AD8aXNqidovVhxnAARrLBDONa5W6DRr+psQTN6u0=; b=JkEWUULRFkVf9HwmQWu+H3Nclm28U3nd7Zi/8RUvNsxS8soCjWrH+FjH/1zl2MFxh6 7LH0yxgqMLAq1X79Zanc3p9OyX3GNC26HZDs6et3AHoIKHPr/UvQdXP2n1AAc2l7ZybB T7tL5QMM/6WU/53UFyOhF8O8lzwZRid7rOzjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pWErgri9KWRVO8tf9mEFToNQ6CP8OkunHTD6EkG2TM/gHxFo30WlztNJQSEHgP2HvS pXwqGrdxCpNYB+FCJnyuGV185YREvpjlFs32j30v4igoQ0nNXCEfxy1rtRI5qTlev78a 0VTX218/pJUn6GuW6loS1f+DFD296h1r+xpjY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:48:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1SBFDC.A.Ds.ZpTZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:48:25 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain > cancer? Not that I heard of. > Just asking. =C2=A0And as far as Ayahuasca goes, there seems to be > some decent anecdotal evidence that it has 'cured' several people of > their cancers. =C2=A0It is after all considered a very powerful healing > medicine and hasn't caused any such illness in its users that I'm > aware of. Yes, I've read about that too. It's just not for me. I have other plans. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 16:59:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65711183485; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EeEOhzdU5y4Ps3s4sRSoh9n67SAE/Z1MWWVEou0ueR0=; b=oKFqoz6bdu33+GXcoJsLLGGdmasJFeJpKUZ7mp5ZHXZ9Xxby3EfWMk/aH0+rqyotkl xpr/4A3Z3rR5rf4/1cKnRkyBnWvAsYTQdie8tEbDmsodHXir0xN7YjpMSqlQB0ht44Mu uPiZpcND7GomIOujXt0IMYxR8lwCH216LmxjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vC+1enHUfzagnd8k7CI4WW+sS+UWpIU858X+6DMWI2bn/xYrRLhs5DROhT43Ch2fia IxvzjH8/mdmE3vNdQnrbAR16BTf0YOIZA8FBD8ef7GwjOiyEMh4Dht3eqJvkmp214yO8 G+6qIX58R6+Encj5kZhubkK7AXI4n/26TBBVQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:59:14 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain >> cancer? Actually Terrence was recommending DMT in large doses. So my comment wasn't totally on spot regarding Ayahuasca. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:28:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCAEB183478; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xE+XOcJQVlxfLn+AmL3wrJG93MOdtOyoqDvKJ5sPMVI=; b=V37hd5F7Y1f1dE+dXmAJT5qVsquXafRmkFr5V6mAuu3j3fPld7O0eEV73wjGB2olRG F3fegCPWG9+N5HjNQvMhICEEfLssH6rYch/enBOzNi1IEviwHoP7nP5dPW0QHGNM0pqV m2QHATHAJ6C/plP5mOgzFYAA+fcxTeyTIsH68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nLCjrvpV0BCrRFrkxYeZTSDu46/xDfV6wErhLYEMnpXBCbyj+0iIKuB1ujA59NlrSV W/7auRqc9N0qLiBoXB5pScL1MWb/zX2Ivu/9uQvV8ie4qpGG/gX6Y7hHDeDy+os/KCw9 qaGN/n4bKA7AKE/7yrWpWkLv4XpM96ZcIH3PA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:28:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:28:45 +0000 (UTC) This very point came up in another list I'm on. (That Radiohead is "Not that experimental".) You're right - they're not *that* experimental. I do get a sense from the techniques that they use that they could do stuff as "out there" as anything we do. Let's face it - making weird sounds is not very hard. They just choose to apply it to make radiohead music, and that's fine with me. Their best songs (not all their songs) have a level of craft in the production values that really impresses me. Most of the experimental music I know of doesn't pay as much attention to dynamic flow or songcraft. They're about as experimental as Pink Floyd circa '75 to '79. And I really like Pink Floyd. I didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung up on how much Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He should do a duo album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. :) So, not a huge rumpus. I just like it when they put new albums out. Matt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:30:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B661F18347E; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=KJbIzz1555izK6Uh9I8GuPIHtiFoEqvglBuFNoLcwKQ=; b=Ni2q+mCfFp56dXq/QEn+Wgto3+PlIBbMCdZ2Y5lZeGw9rIQP1kkrxH536Cp4qGcf86 leCpYyLtNyx5RuCLwHkQ4aNpC4IYCRT0W9vxkvBLba2ORmEovxLohuvVkmuinRRElppM EAFowz1iytzjbdDamd6ehcsYEIBAfuTAZwnuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=xo9MJPZqicJAd1dBWnOliBJuz+2FlgyGpgKbh9NEio+/Wdpni9uB2oGQPHBEWzD9YW fIelMT0535qLwiX2ujEJIMtfgLVI/4AKHYBb9QR5oYUIHYsCPIpp8+0VK7906XHqRfN6 T+34P1juyfJSFPnfL58YHRiur+cIYgQTjaydI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D64FB0F.1060209@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:27:28 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1824AE00-4B5A-4197-9CCC-C3CFB97E2FFD@gmail.com> References: <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <4D64FB0F.1060209@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <2mW4_.A.svB.ORUZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:30:54 +0000 (UTC) It's not just you Rick. I never would have thought I would have had the = nightmarish experience I did for buying a top of the line MBP. I bought = mine last April and I have only recently been able to use it = productively. I paid an extra 1000 bucks for a computer(compared to PC = laptop) that took months of troubleshooting and sending it back to have = a new one made, to bugs with the i7 dual core processor and = Logic/mainstage etc. I'm sure most people have great experiences but = mine was a hard lesson learned ..... that you pay for what you get = doesn't really apply. I spent days, upon hours, upon weeks on the phone = with Apple, and email support as well. How's that any different than = having to tweak Windows for audio performance? At least the PC has DPC = latency checker and Latency Monitor so there are programs to help get = you there (real-time performance) and diagnose problems. I have made all = my purchase decisions since then to make sure that I use an audio = interface and plug-ins that work for both platforms so I have a choice = in the future when this laptop kicks the bucket. I could save a grand = and buy a bad ass microphone instead... and I'm not sure if I want my = 'audio only' computer to have an App store on it:) -Todd Matthews >=20 > I know many people have great experiences with them, but my experience = has been a nightmare. >=20 > yours, rick >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:38:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDEA6183477; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=1NoYjRTqK3wHNio+si58UbFLKM2UMRG5PNj/tRIpDO4=; b=GbgAw27mFjVwU3knwyu/qTXqpvUOsrI+yvWtEyZ/5AFPaN+f73OyP9tBOEy3NZMoe8 m8yLMB5TZ7q9PkFgm9vBxiYKZsJXhbUXIOA5JYd5Qd+iXi2BKKGyXKLNwDFVDL7xnLJo ky1QR8A/PsQ+3KKOT7XSkCkrultYOQ43HRn6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=apdt0DVCMxxyffG9p8wJwJLXMDMYuQb8fjPZEDiNvp+jJfrV9K91Pcr5R3/WXobTwn xGUvvprOwxoR790XkmlrwIgvSxVFf0Qf7rxvNK/3H92Go6fTrgBgMkDXuFLXKwKbAZg+ AplTJqMupZ/A7c4n97FlfO5KgP/YXitUSvj9s= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:38:02 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <_v7SmD.A.O9B.9XUZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:38:05 +0000 (UTC) If I had to put money on it, and forego the scientific method, I would = say the copious amounts of DMT caused the brain cancer. Just my hunch = but my hunch is just as valid as someone thinking it was the Ayahuasca = that healed them.=20 Drugs are bad, mmmmkay This ends my public service announcement. -Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: coindence > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Per Boysen = wrote: >>> Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the = brain >>> cancer? >=20 > Actually Terrence was recommending DMT in large doses. So my comment > wasn't totally on spot regarding Ayahuasca. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:44:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8335D18347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_65483aba-d5f8-4c60-b542-e654fe1c6b6e_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:44:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 17:44:14.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[49609760:01CBD381] Resent-Message-ID: <82HcOB.A.pLC.vdUZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:44:15 +0000 (UTC) --_65483aba-d5f8-4c60-b542-e654fe1c6b6e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm=2C you're right=2C that's not very scientific.=20 peace g Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ > Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal > From: gtmatthews@gmail.com > Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:38:02 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > If I had to put money on it=2C and forego the scientific method=2C I woul= d say the copious amounts of DMT caused the brain cancer. Just my hunch bu= t my hunch is just as valid as someone thinking it was the Ayahuasca that h= ealed them.=20 >=20 > Drugs are bad=2C mmmmkay >=20 > This ends my public service announcement. >=20 > -Todd Matthews >=20 > On Feb 23=2C 2011=2C at 11:59 AM=2C Per Boysen wrote: coindence > > On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 5:48 PM=2C Per Boysen = wrote: > >>> Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain > >>> cancer? > >=20 > > Actually Terrence was recommending DMT in large doses. So my comment > > wasn't totally on spot regarding Ayahuasca. > >=20 > > Per > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_65483aba-d5f8-4c60-b542-e654fe1c6b6e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm=2C you're right=2C that's not very scientific.

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= --_65483aba-d5f8-4c60-b542-e654fe1c6b6e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:47:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD0B183486; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=rb0E0YDI1NXA7p/AeDbHhPhx82Qdvu/JWfBR7zYZRyg=; b=L1chqnIbrdSfRUE/i3FSmJs76bPN6HNrZgybWmEPQYnajk+GRSvaTwBFazOogN7GTn r2BklLZJZPjFakokKFt22yHqq9e4m3OqzP1fu3OoXJqJIPmBp7CB8X0V+ERMWFpsekY0 f2i+9rt5Q2vpbNIXn144elS9u9oKMMtF37Dig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=Q+xaF249N2u7b0e1OAfjyamd/X3+l0gsnw/VIZaPrYFmmSsaG6+JC0wRaUu6CgcMst 2yBubYUFTE2ifX2ro3pFf3RZTGdkriwVoj3KZZlAWhmPKhNb6LWHoZ8VNCnT0yICc8Tc wh0nFP/CgykthgPKVLbbX2gEGsa/bjaQnSM1c= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-200961598 Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:47:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-Id: <34DBCC37-20E3-4A20-8891-2642E3A5D0B9@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:47:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-200961598 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Matt, I've given the new Radiohead a few listens now and it just doesn't keep = my attention. Maybe your right about it's just not hard to make strange = noises with the music technology these days so it's harder to stand out = when anybody/everybody can do/does it. There is nothing that I hated = about this new album but nothing that really grabbed ahold of as well. I = remember listening to OK Computer and Kid A each for the first time and = knowing immediately how much I loved the entire album as a whole. I = agree with your opinion on the importance of song craft and I'm also a = big Pink Floyd fan too.=20 -Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >=20 > They're about as experimental as Pink Floyd circa '75 to '79. And I > really like Pink Floyd. >=20 > I didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung up on how > much Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He should do a > duo album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. :) >=20 > So, not a huge rumpus. I just like it when they put new albums out. >=20 > Matt >=20 --Apple-Mail-3-200961598 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hey = Matt,

I've given the new Radiohead a few listens now = and it just doesn't keep my attention. Maybe your right about it's just = not hard to make strange noises with the music technology these days so = it's harder to stand out when anybody/everybody can do/does = it. There is nothing that I hated about this new album but nothing = that really grabbed ahold of as well. I remember listening to OK = Computer and Kid A each for the first time and knowing immediately how = much I loved the entire album as a whole. I agree with your opinion on = the importance of song craft and I'm also a big Pink Floyd fan = too. 

-Todd = Matthews
On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Matt Davignon = wrote:

They're about as = experimental as Pink Floyd circa '75 to '79. And I
really like Pink = Floyd.

I didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung = up on how
much Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He = should do a
duo album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. :)

So, = not a huge rumpus. I just like it when they put new albums = out.

Matt




= --Apple-Mail-3-200961598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:51:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BCE7183497; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=u1PnxzCVcN3dcPuXgA8DqywH/fbL58Elk/otOctUPrY=; b=MX5WxgygsT1Sq9P8PDpw8N582vRxLmlGBYtQkK/K/BCXPNyZc4k+4DA74f86tc/jVK of2KoFnjcFTl2zs6rfYKyAXSxQhKxlDJ8xNskZiHn36Rks2JP+Q/HyaPRsK9clbfrB+H yyQKqVHbtafIJep5NbXH3+FvptGtO+Kn8kSkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=PAtnOGjkQZoUOuCJD+1doK7TfymFwvYjUzLUa0aaFaoHkmROTcozWu9qQqvRDqxfGP VM/N3JPasQRFeHvPls44pgnIkYKVmjPGUqcBVga+Bhu2cMffvLBAVTH6+5Z6+A4lVJqS arT2su/Br6t/yLErq9Jt+AFzp4TX8QNfs88mI= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-201140624 Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:50:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> , Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:51:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-201140624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +1 request for a mac version That is all. Thank you kind sir, Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hmmm, you're right, that's not very scientific. > > peace > > g > > > Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ --Apple-Mail-4-201140624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii +1 request for a mac = version

That is all.

Thank = you kind sir,

Todd Matthews
On Feb = 23, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote:

 

peace

g

Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/
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= --Apple-Mail-4-201140624-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:53:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF69218349E; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SQk9IJlbfa7bqxloRn9knZ+A/GJETLy9CycNKYW8dZQ=; b=d5J/VlZH1i2Y3Khv/jip0PBJMOe7pjhPYLqeXMaimSAG0TrocQviU9j6SCFC0ZCsgL rU1pO1VKy76bbocL0RWYHFz3y3cbIGTsN2s2Z/60gPQkNqEbSo5dOt3BJy52o518ix36 SoUT89Bi3zn4uLek3j5leh52LxCFtR+f1Z6n0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d9W+M9/7M25nXCtvT9CQbwJ6rfWRhv1w0fJQMfoUm7OJUk7sAfozxJ9MkdkN0oDvL8 T+YnZPvlwC+4+ZewGzqW8szf2KHE4otECKpppKYW5+NGl6yjWpEeDiQSF7qw0DorGYni icjaOU05EVk9oWU2wTLTYphbbcbI8CuGQruEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:52:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:53:38 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > > This ends my public service announcement. Don't think there was much service in that announcement, no offense meant. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 17:54:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 809451834AA; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tXLMOCf40+poFixl5mm6BbBw4EOz0GzR9GJ9AlR0Rpg=; b=YWFq073iUiWyqXzQu1MADLxY+Vlcs4gBdfCIIOpkjjAMqUaWY5vVA1MM6iHRKGe6XN dzavw0mF/lmKFzKuKfQoSPvF2D8lP2hvP0AGJc5gC3xeS8umuYJEWkT5Zm5F8aXi3EL5 ComfdvzUtXrXg1/Hlw7DQRNQxaNZYjWeWqQmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VtSgNbU9D5vdGpMXTqbH+yPQNj3uxxMP7/5/ecOCypN2xvxbQezfE7HWwPkNDw2zQO TvcO7W22SCh5O9dOL/EwtujnwT8rquJu3nu3OdOGxksrBkKag9LlbkoZx/2O/Q+wZc+E 7odHBjQyN1Oxr+IS2v4RpXqsQVpNFehfPSJbc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <741357.85871.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:54:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot - Monolith - guitar driven synth From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de000b4d8bb6049cf6c8e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:54:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de000b4d8bb6049cf6c8e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds really, really good! I'd like to hear longer clips. How about another Youtube vid? -Adam --0016e6de000b4d8bb6049cf6c8e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds really, really good!=A0 I'd like to hear longer clips.=A0 H= ow about another Youtube vid?=A0
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--0016e6de000b4d8bb6049cf6c8e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 18:07:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCCF51834B5; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=qCMG/rU1zaG3fVIrSUhkl8jwoLGvoWN5LZa7/Qdp7k4=; b=hqwbpxRTuy19z3b7svmtrsIrRcZEUn9Ol57Mtsoub+lKasTjsJvVwqHoPvb+t68JQC ItW5SnWns8MY46hwtnGcdvGgsfjVkskeqfKhNYyhne9kQzt3BqSdn6vD/RkxSzcVygTL PJFFvQhakuatCeGU2sDKRGUzmFIAGdXeUSgT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=oQrbxTEhZ7EtFRrqv23ABO0b/jzo9zET7YyT4bAQQ34xgiYfctQY7pJZJNde0j+ljD STF28lEU7K2fFcbmahnilWoNX1aE6sM+CPxxv0ahBscWmcTHI8/SHawoP1Dl80WglE3V mXngTUSS/8aFK02uycfvWsKx6NmAWGNroG5FI= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:06:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) I was just being silly. Although, thanks for taking the time to let me = know it didn't service you!=20 No offense taken, Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Todd Matthews = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> This ends my public service announcement. >=20 > Don't think there was much service in that announcement, no offense = meant. >=20 >=20 > Kevin > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all = trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >=20 Todd Matthews http://www.joshuasteelemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 18:18:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9AE01834B6; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_be433737-aeb0-4146-90cc-05bac21dadf9_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:29 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> , , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 18:18:29.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[124596E0:01CBD386] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:18:31 +0000 (UTC) --_be433737-aeb0-4146-90cc-05bac21dadf9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cheers Todd. I'll keep you posted. G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ From: gtmatthews@gmail.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:50:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com +1 request for a mac version That is all. Thank you kind sir=2C Todd MatthewsOn Feb 23=2C 2011=2C at 12:44 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:Hmmm= =2C you're right=2C that's not very scientific.=20 peace g Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ = --_be433737-aeb0-4146-90cc-05bac21dadf9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cheers Todd. I'll keep you posted.

G

Sentientfx - =3B Inn= ovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



From: gt= matthews@gmail.com
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
D= ate: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:50:04 -0500
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com

+1 request fo= r a mac version

That is all.

Th= ank you kind sir=2C

Todd Matthews
On Feb= 23=2C 2011=2C at 12:44 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote:

Hmmm=2C you're right=2C that's not very scientific. =3B

peace

g


Sen= tientfx - =3B Innovative music plugins. =3Bhttp://sentientfx.com/



= --_be433737-aeb0-4146-90cc-05bac21dadf9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 18:54:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AA8F183484; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:54:47 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Moser CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:54:55 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > :P ... that's funny, Mark! (It's also what my wife said when she > bought her first iMac (2nd Gen), after she plugged it in, fired it up > and was immediately surfing!) > > Look, ALL computers are capable of having problems. Be aware of it, be > prepared for it and then be pleasantly surprised if you don't have any > major issues with yours. > > Per and I both are recommending that since Rafael has said he has the > budget to afford Apple hardware, but that he's a PC guy, that he go > ahead and buy the Mac and ONLY run Windows on it........ After reading Dennis and Per's informed post, I would agree wholeheartedly with their recommendations. Between the two of them, they have a lot more experience with both of these platforms. It's interesting to hear that the refresh cycle of common PC laptops is shorter than for Macs. That, in itself, has to be a very powerful mitigating piece of information. The only thing I can think of that gives pause is that those PC laptops are a lot cheaper, economically, speaking. The price differential of a rompin' stompin' laptop these days is about $500 - $1,000 from my current research. But I also have only bought a 'state of the art' computer once in my life and have always bought slightly trailing edge gear in this realm due to my own finances. Also, it sounds like you have the budget, so go for it. Yeah, bud. Go with Dennis and Per's recommendations and good luck with your looping! yours, Rick >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 18:58:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9163718348F; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6558E1.3020509@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:58:41 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark francombe CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: unsubscribe References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:58:48 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are > there 2 bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one? > Compared to the overall prosaic quality of mainstream commercial music in the past five years, Radio head is very experimental. Kid A didn't sound like anything on the radio when it came out. Compared to music called experimental in the 'experimental' section of Streetlight Records, Radiohead can be lumped in with the Beach Boys. It's all relative, Mark, but I think you know that........... hugs, bro, rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 19:30:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4FED183490; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YfqO3r249+Ajq1gBw6b0wrmyTbVNvB2cIRsvoolJzh0=; b=oFtZf7v7ihjeUr9dmpMPmlHpJ4rYIu7uUsyLEPuf7scp5dkPNbzhtrEEEndxgG6tvZ 5dIb07U2i/9nFo9LANqpTwphYk4PfvWlL/4XQn4skyCsU4npyoc4yi/mWs8+Nwh6VCT0 lT/nebc495S8CKwCPqSuDTIo5/Y/X3IGPjTRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rLbN8s8UezVzr44hVeGR61hqlgtsGm9puScst+mTiT2rVmnGGZTRNlxMMXLlfX6vCe ij0OqLbOLFYNe4+6VfojfLqjk7WbBIR2szlSmvuKR76xuxyazuP6JtwhhcXQ6Q3ms5VK WkuiMlUzfxkS+HFktGjJqbP7yuQ0MBw6Mu5gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> References: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:30:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > PC laptops are a lot cheaper, > economically, speaking. Indeed they are. I've owned and built a lot of dedicated music computers with Windows only compatible hardware (I pick the hardware based on what components are known to work well together) and I have also owned a lot of computers by Apple. I agree that a Windows only PC can be cheaper to buy but if you use the computer as your working tool for earning your living I've always found Macs to turn out as cheaper in the long run. I've had two Apple motherboard breakdowns but as I pay extra for insurance I got a new machine right a way and lost only a few working hours. In the pro world this translates as "cheaper", since you loose money if your tools fail and you can't deliver. Finally, I tend to not buy the latest model, rather "last year's model" because then I can chose the gear that has proven to work well for what I intend to use it for. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 19:33:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0704D18347E; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:33:17 UTC Message-id: <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:22:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Richard Rives Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro In-reply-to: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <5YiYAB.A.dHF.9DWZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:33:17 +0000 (UTC) FYI New Mac Book Pros are rumored to be released in March http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/23/macbook-pro-specs-lightpeak-known-as-thunderbolt/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 19:39:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC4E218347A; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:39:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 662921.66729.bm@omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298489929; bh=2kW8b3JkhkDgcBQ8Dydr0VQI0t6quI3EkNypj1+5rVU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XhiJpPIRalO1drjNjWQCp4GQ6GSFdBZruR2YCcm4ECK7SsHE1/Rr+IiIfrlBMlRwLWm/FTDh7uzW3eB2jNnnW5dXwip8x1kjEhHa1Y5V5ZwfHjHWIcLRU+aAOE2SqrI7XSDYLqpIMh8f5xW6Mk/QxKIW4pKuKVS7QCvDK0iBhQM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EExknfmkNeeGeL3taAj/cLSQqCyymkc+V7cdwItcqmf/OH7wXAfCvHz5MpvDyir679bY389ZcjdQCJ4BEALc3PYV7C6lezaN/374jRaNjagKvlfS3eICXT7l6VpnDweC6A96IkeqXJLA+DibFTIZH0tNO+gZhekMC1eXvcpnuyg=; Message-ID: <494493.31908.qm@web120713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6MdNWWwVM1m4rH23799UfQhOsStHAa5gobLt5djLz9BZY2j ZcVpZrJCCNGOcIATvM4OmOmfrCzYGulhv4tnyHapNkdgu92joBKP6EpHfaMk gF2TAIFfGMR_kGqRxrOP1FJhkofMjCajADkGrzYgcPVC.DarTA4vB1MR6JDD .LNnm74XZNbePmEeGGTsLo7jZ47Vxlw1yHW9OK5z3uCkNNiacidkkl4GI.2_ RI5grkpQUtDyyPLh0E8xvlGIrCFy0mEQagFAwnPek6x0n5dFstZlDtxwM4KP UmfE52xeemmHPVJpa3bxE X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:38:48 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-604775819-1298489928=:31908" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:39:42 +0000 (UTC) --0-604775819-1298489928=:31908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well maybe mind is not the right word for it and words are quite limited when it comes to these matters. The earth is a living being, we are a part of this living being and have a specific function we could play. Antony ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 1:02:55 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind; The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. My tiny human mind of the curious kind wants date with Planet Mind. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub --0-604775819-1298489928=:31908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
well maybe mind is not the right word for it and words are quite limited when it comes to these matters. The earth is a living being, we are a part of this living being and have a specific function we could play.

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 1:02:55 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> not only the planet created us but it created us with a purpose in mind;

The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought.

My tiny human mind
of the curious kind
wants date with Planet Mind.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub


--0-604775819-1298489928=:31908-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 19:44:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C53A18347E; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D656387.8080603@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:44:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Echevarria CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:44:16 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > My sister just happened to send this link (tangentially related to > apple issues 1/2 way through): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI That was really funny, thanks, Sean! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 19:49:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB57183485; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:49:39 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7dpOQC.A.-qF.bTWZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:49:47 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I recently got cured from a cancer > attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work > on the planet for a very long time. > > Per That's the best news I've heard in forever, Per. I'm so happy that you have a lot of health ahead of you after this ordeal. What a blessing! YEAH!!!!!!!!!! love, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:08:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9DF18348F; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Ig049MPUghD6OqSW3ulqFax5+IhNxXZyIU02Bx+PGLM=; b=Kkbyu9m0U55btM+tQL8e+TWWwrkRovmnpl8cKyEfwy8vw9HMPV2QmXwJdyQCBDJBMz 1ewSs1YcPKoG/9HzQ44lnh7UIYbIwPGRVbR541e4KLC744w4iP6wonGtxBime/moBMPS v+3K3h0JD4VrH4SDznaGuuNJlyb8itanp85no= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YEiJNzvN1LE3vwNDwNGHCe6Hj+R4mobg8YQcXi+qVdC8fIwLAfc/gtf85pusKWaP94 HYAWP/YQls3LXfegbvfGS+5w/y2gl9iuuQLQOvoHE7q4RP0/LsYOAJdeCnZtWGkZh3RR vfoOnMJ3EdGqMo1fhUeXItXNWuGh4QGd+QLZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:07:46 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd4HPA1tkFxbL_mn5ZrRSptIWn4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f6ebb3bade049cf8a7eb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f6ebb3bade049cf8a7eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > So, not a huge rumpus. ha ha! Believe me.. in MY office, last Friday??? RUMPUS... HUGE!! "Did you get it yet?" "Have you listened yet?" "Brilliant?" I really dont deny THEM anything, they can make whatever record they want! And I do think they sound pretty good... They certainly good song writers, great live band.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when they are not! One thing I will say, that first track on Kid A (everything in its right place...) with the vocals through a Digitech Space Station... sends shivers down my spine.. -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00163630f6ebb3bade049cf8a7eb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Matt Da= vignon <matt= davignon@gmail.com> wrote:
So, not a huge rumpus.

ha ha! Believe me.. in MY off= ice, last Friday??? RUMPUS... HUGE!!

"Did you get it yet?"= ; "Have you listened yet?" "Brilliant?"

I really= dont deny THEM anything, they can make whatever record they want! And I do= think they sound pretty good... They certainly good song writers, great li= ve band.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when t= hey are not!

One thing I will say, that first track on Kid A (everything in its righ= t place...) with the vocals through a Digitech Space Station... sends shive= rs down my spine..
--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--00163630f6ebb3bade049cf8a7eb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:18:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1FFC18349F; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=a+5y82yB8o7QRem1MH3Z1I+V64CRU7gX5M6fFaedv1k=; b=t2H8EnxkSFnjKVTNQrhKdXO3JccxFyTXUGm7/uIiq2D3BeOJAtHCz4XVDoQZTsSQE0 NoCaEqFZQoq+etLsWGMB2DsfAIPx6KkJf00rYpdYTQ4DP3ouB59Y6hUG5zRfkGw/aS// mDHw4u6DOhGeioly25xnSoaYxIYrhTMp5DSDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=P1u042VyQe4LZZIiXt33p6/GWDaOCgwQvyZ35j4sgyGvURAUmvDmcK8Eyb5GWJLuk/ hF+PJ/B94eH8FAZl5XLqOsQL9pDzEhZZEp7i+XD2J2BqIID3Y5Qwjo9W/EBgk4ld/z/9 le9dHKOoG6WfmtwfM+LgiW61onjUKEnTrRCus= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:18:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:18:08 +0000 (UTC) That was where I went so wrong! After reading your great advice, Per and = Dennis, it does make a convincing case to stick with a macbook. -Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Finally, I tend to not buy the latest model, rather "last year's > model" because then I can chose the gear that has proven to work well > for what I intend to use it for. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:18:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEB831834A6; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 456311.54053.bm@omp1050.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298492307; bh=C7N2eiDx45BhLr1wvqp6QuPJhqqgW5RlBwr57ty76GU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dEERJYccZ6lsLXz2sRXU314xzXsoveA1MaDH/kovY8vHwQ44ibJkaqmznY6N6nv9fCt1/LdBXm/1zaLwzv7KVxBTtlqNyTO1wMItq4lAf4CKPkHhca9UaSjLykhoLjuGUqDwRbagKajwJPEC1jDcutBpsmoCI1b7+Rm1PiSUQ+4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1fSb8wp1MZIf8pcj69qKvENdL2gJgegRxqOq1ScNoBtmGwbaGfLEFoVHvdRoQSmbx8lfYG22GzBIun4dZOa5eI4LJRO0pIR6vwpmx5VEffEhqZ+vCpuJB+PizNteGMozDNbZK4NrjYs8zvz4OWblsE3VN5ZSMPt6eLCF8oQRPqE=; Message-ID: <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GRdCm8MVM1neSOIDOzOWVLISqkfH93Qm7IdhN_16Xat1h8w G2Wc5EOC65egYVc9bSXW5qJac_De8TsXFl0Mmpow3mbAtzYW7qjKUVZ.TYfp YfVNjIUMJ6boJ25fWJznNi583zZ5RWXjPcr.YiUHEcqUUEJpCVdkyuoJH68M dE44SWOiKKrd5ylJEtfHh_gPwWnTR4oy7c.pucCy7dB_uLmLOwtplGHB1.cC oGNhLxdpejgS4FrlB9IqJZxDRmUaatDlMLaQzTshG9zTA8l.NArHlFHala.b 2lLcKelvQfdG5LpqX1d4W X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-319059612-1298492307=:91820" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:18:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-319059612-1298492307=:91820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman. Antony ________________________________ From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:34:43 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain cancer? Just asking. And as far as Ayahuasca goes, there seems to be some decent anecdotal evidence that it has 'cured' several people of their cancers. It is after all considered a very powerful healing medicine and hasn't caused any such illness in its users that I'm aware of. Not that I'm saying you should or anything like that, I'd like to see you continue your work here for a long time as well. Kevin On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >>> The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought. >>> >>> My tiny human mind >>> of the curious kind >>> wants date with Planet Mind. > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> Ayahuasca might do it for you > > Yeah I know, but I'd rather have that chat when, or if, it comes > naturally. Thinking about poor Terrence McKenna who died from a > massive brain cancer way too early. I recently got cured from a cancer > attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work > on the planet for a very long time. > > Per > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --0-319059612-1298492307=:91820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman.

Antony

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:34:43 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

Is there any evidence that Terrence's habit led directly to the brain
cancer?  Just asking.  And as far as Ayahuasca goes, there seems to be
some decent anecdotal evidence that it has 'cured' several people of
their cancers.  It is after all considered a very powerful healing
medicine and hasn't caused any such illness in its users that I'm
aware of.

Not that I'm saying you should or anything like that, I'd like to see
you continue your work here for a long time as well.

Kevin

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The Planet's got a mind? That's an interesting thought.
>>>
>>> My tiny human mind
>>> of the curious kind
>>> wants date with Planet Mind.
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
> <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ayahuasca might do it for you
>
> Yeah I know, but I'd rather have that chat when, or if, it comes
> naturally. Thinking about poor Terrence McKenna who died from a
> massive brain cancer way too early. I recently got cured from a cancer
> attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work
> on the planet for a very long time.
>
> Per
>
>



--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


--0-319059612-1298492307=:91820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:25:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAE88183488; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BkkyiAuw24lFMLwpXjppQxf9/MrHcF7xr3vNejAQm68=; b=Um9EqKpyzR68RZvAnEz0JUMDzbJ7VbB8Qw060xF6fbq6toEjtawPS6oSoGxZAC0VHu Td8UHQxHkEUumHILa53lZ19/Q7HMt2xUy2CgEPGnC9Sm52QJejj9b5iPLjS8Y3nEHwZb omPZciRwWX5JGy16lC7O5DzmxaMgcADXqyZqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WukJ1AA3hGf1jvF9qyMWQ8y6Lt62Gp0fgHIHIj797s5LBXULrSkHSz9Zt1tNCQqHQL +KfHghMjotig1ni0DLCm4Jnof8ZvPNwzdkK39IU7p28JOrLCkyWiNdcczTVbX9M0i4EJ EzZxfmOMViYpqlsp1E2pmbNzwJ4Z+eT4OTi3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:25:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:25:06 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman. > Antony Really? But isn't 'drugs' kind of a useless term in this context? Useless in that it doesn't really convey enough information to begin to address the magnitude of topic (which is now far afield from looping for most). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:25:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A2718349F; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7EYmupaM7Ajl026IWkyodHBrtokMbJ3ycg6dT5wRGlc=; b=QU71Rk9OAg+VojBSy50/XtsEvZHIqxF+TUQFGEaNM1A7BfwgwM5Yi9abupc0YVpalc 4GRQHOC7sOeUP/30jhRfxvbti254P00/GbY5RM4M6/xMZFr2cs+7jmIqb3reGvsO9tG5 NA+LYp/bCZYmCteniWLT2mlzI3J0kQ/LPzRy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ithlaasRiJ2zAqjLt7iUlDJ2P7Gudms8OBOnwCloPeaBY6yetAoiP7QnXtkFVnxR8C tMZJtxokAqz5SD0M2lZgq6ZFt6F60qQcwKzYoEjcC+hQQCbCDDgy7PW7Y3fLpmxtUPYG cREyK9dv/5uP+/8V2kaVSU/u8q+OQV2IUsS+o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D6558E1.3020509@cruzio.com> References: <4D6558E1.3020509@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: unsubscribe From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305f944c32e718049cf8e546 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:25:18 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305f944c32e718049cf8e546 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As you say Rick, compared to..()...I suppose they are still experimental. I like the album just fine. That said I don't hear anything new for them. It does sound much more minimal if not unfinished as was mentioned. I got into them with OK Computer then Amnesiac/Kid A which I really still dig! Since then I have been underwhelmed, not to say I find them unlistenable or anything. I think I am the only one who didn't really care so much for In Rainbows. I like this one much better, for me very listenable while cruising the highway! :) Where they are really experimental and at the forefront is in the way they are taking control of their music. Bypassing traditional outlets and going the way they are is great. I bought the 320 mp3 version for 9 bucks. Although a short album I consider this a good value. my 2.5, J On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 >> bands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one? >> >> Compared to the overall prosaic quality of mainstream commercial music in > the past five years, > Radio head is very experimental. Kid A didn't sound like anything on > the radio when it came out. > > Compared to music called experimental in the 'experimental' section of > Streetlight Records, > Radiohead can be lumped in with the Beach Boys. > > It's all relative, Mark, but I think you know that........... > > hugs, bro, rick > --20cf305f944c32e718049cf8e546 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As you say Rick, compared to..()...I suppose they are still experimental.
I like the album just fine. That said I don't hear anything new f= or them. It does sound much more minimal if not unfinished as was mentioned= . I got into them with OK Computer then Amnesiac/Kid A which I really still= dig! Since then I have been underwhelmed, not to say I find them unlistena= ble or anything. I think I am the only one who didn't really care so mu= ch=A0 for In Rainbows. I like this one much better, for me very listenable = while cruising the highway! :)

Where they are really experimental and at the forefront is in the way t= hey are taking control of their music. Bypassing traditional outlets and go= ing the way they are is great. I bought the 320 mp3 version for 9 bucks. Al= though a short album I consider this a good value.


my 2.5,

J

On Wed, Feb 23, = 2011 at 1:58 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote:
Can somebody tell me what is so experimental about Radiohead? Are there 2 b= ands called Radiohead...am I listening to the wrong one?

Compared to the overall prosaic quality of mainstream commercial music in t= he past five years,
Radio head is very experimental. =A0 =A0 =A0Kid A didn't sound like any= thing on the radio when it came out.

Compared to music called experimental in the 'experimental' section= of Streetlight Records,
Radiohead can be lumped in with the Beach Boys.

It's all relative, Mark, =A0but =A0I think you know that...........<= grin>

hugs, bro, =A0rick

--20cf305f944c32e718049cf8e546-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:32:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB11A183484; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 178503.32464.bm@omp1021.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298493119; bh=C0bXQmMq44II33zmQ9Sk76WjD786z9UuiWUYBCOZeQU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T8GAL7KXaTj4pTn0AOm0+URuEz9Eo8RTjcIuPGeB7IlCIOMIWum2WM4KRSVJmOaBIbNIv1aJdCK0Hm5BqwWas5e9kQuFsmb08//ZABGPz45gxFL2fmGAxGIsxXDfQyH++qvd5qdDYSTsQJ6cE2aQjFdl8n7Fm5ZH4feVQVgBlNo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s4KKSEERg6bcsrMjTwaNGN1jKfyWkC6Go/wNDHKLQ4aRxJqu7syUEhXRYysSro6TozXDHUTzXWhPk9fqxs9qGqSNp4IWL25WXWLXe9dk+484CorlB+5YBu5UdO0THXXL/ocdu35CU+Dqkf3YpLFeQ/jGncZ7k1/wOSxaLiVqQMk=; Message-ID: <47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9qCvuXgVM1mSqOvryz7MultHN9gz617MIVESZVn9zxnotk7 S1JWUdIZqT_.DsskQoYgbXdT205YYB9mINb2dZOyNtTvd_UXIwB9lCi0iYZa yKzys1.1dYiIvT8OdVq1AE7r9PhWAKgqEtT_fYYa3cRULXbBrR7zIqmpvLFh 0l9A0V1qloYyamCF.q43g6eJK2BidwsHtAe5gFdGz5v8DDoKPAVDO6KKFac2 hrgc7EijCR0Xi4n71RkMFvBzD_RpsxVwEtRvepukNp5cgxG3fSo43xsbcN3L L3.35tJ4qc2J_bTyiFNyR X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-387939646-1298493118=:52624" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:32:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-387939646-1298493118=:52624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii using enhancers, instead of using the capacity of your mind and body. ________________________________ From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:01 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM, wrote: > taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman. > Antony Really? But isn't 'drugs' kind of a useless term in this context? Useless in that it doesn't really convey enough information to begin to address the magnitude of topic (which is now far afield from looping for most). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --0-387939646-1298493118=:52624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
using enhancers, instead of using the capacity of your mind  and body.

From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:25:01 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman.
> Antony

Really?

But isn't 'drugs' kind of a useless term in this context?  Useless in
that it doesn't really convey enough information to begin to address
the magnitude of topic (which is now far afield from looping for
most).

Kevin
--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


--0-387939646-1298493118=:52624-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:44:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49541183493; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-23_06:2011-02-23,2011-02-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102230139 Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:43:55 -0800 Cc: Per Boysen Message-id: <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. :) Daniel On Feb 23, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> I recently got cured from a cancer >> attack myself and now when I'm clean I would like to continue my work >> on the planet for a very long time. >> >> Per > That's the best news I've heard in forever, Per. > I'm so happy that you have a lot of health ahead of you after this ordeal. > What a blessing! YEAH!!!!!!!!!! > > love, Rick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:44:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AEBB1834A3; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_db303f45-6dc2-4eb5-b614-7f06c8e4f21b_" X-Originating-IP: [86.140.106.196] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:44:08 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2011 20:44:08.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B1EDC40:01CBD39A] Resent-Message-ID: <9nc0PB.A.ZXH.ZGXZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:44:10 +0000 (UTC) --_db303f45-6dc2-4eb5-b614-7f06c8e4f21b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part=2C but not= all=2C of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and danc= ing to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar? Peace=2C love and enlightenment Gareth Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ Date: Wed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:31:58 -0800 From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com using enhancers=2C instead of using the capacity of your mind and body. From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wed=2C February 23=2C 2011 9:25:01 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 12:18 PM=2C wrote: > taking drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman. > Antony Really? But isn't 'drugs' kind of a useless term in this context? Useless in that it doesn't really convey enough information to begin to address the magnitude of topic (which is now far afield from looping for most). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos = --_db303f45-6dc2-4eb5-b614-7f06c8e4f21b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part=2C but not= all=2C of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and danc= ing =3B to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar?


Peace= =2C love and enlightenment

Gareth


Sentientfx - =3B In= novative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/



Date: W= ed=2C 23 Feb 2011 12:31:58 -0800
From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com
Subject= : Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de= light.com

using enhancers=2C instead of using the capacity of your= mind  =3Band body.

From:<= /b> Kevin Cheli-Colando <=3Bbillowhead@gmail.com>=3B
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Sent: Wed=2C Februa= ry 23=2C 2011 9:25:01 PM
Subject= : Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 12:18 PM=2C =3B <=3Bantonyhequet@yahoo.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B taki= ng drugs to produce extatic states is the cheap path for a shaman.
>= =3B Antony

Really?

But isn't 'drugs' kind of a useless term i= n this context? =3B Useless in
that it doesn't really convey enough = information to begin to address
the magnitude of topic (which is now far= afield from looping for
most).

Kevin
--
Till now you serio= usly considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the = primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Ma= harshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =3B http://www.minds-eye.orgVideo http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos


= --_db303f45-6dc2-4eb5-b614-7f06c8e4f21b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 20:54:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 307D81834AF; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 579 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:54:45 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUGANsAZU1Hq+9F/2dsb2JhbACYE44OvQ+FXgSFDYpE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,214,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="48367839" X-Previous-IP: 71.171.239.69 Message-Id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:48:15 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:54:45 +0000 (UTC) >.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when they are not! Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? And, in the end, who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something doesn't automatically make it good. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:01:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EF411834B0; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:38:19 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:01:14 +0000 (UTC) excellent question, 'Who gets to decide'.. if one is into experimental music, Radiohead may not seem experimental, but if one is into pop music, they would seem experimental.. maybe it's 'experimentally' like something can be 'jazzy'.. lol.. :) Quoting Jeff Shirkey : > >> .. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when > they are not! > > Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? And, in the > end, who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something doesn't > automatically make it good. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:07:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 418431834C2; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5A0cjLyjZ++GZI5M5HWn7lGbrPBLVFUnpsCXst+4fnw=; b=aomS0X5KZlOQoOXkHplCtREQxqxasE47ce/ZZBuarClFqCQ0PrLj8TMi/ytXLEwHJA 1Y+XZliR7JQciMIqbf61NNJzRm3FlesMZ+W9LEWPOO33QdulOlHoBWhzua/nbQZfxRsl rSGE4br1H1kVeS+6DjXHgTjuV2mvIT40QmuQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pGnmThUk57SNlk7xAS+ymTGpDiGnV9xgRaCsiP8SO0zVwOIjk9yAIcdFWMJB3HNIj6 tjdfc5S0zdTrhvEWoXs8lbLxv/jLckRhfJoUpQfelWz7Zi439CqMSegKAja2Tllao/qA wuYKxPZIngombh/JdZVc7qZhWWffwH7KVQ6II= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:07:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:07:53 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote: > Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. > > :) Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:17:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630C81834CC; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=luK5rpVAFB/ZPOIUqwi1VtyIw0EiPgxIlxP4opHqIZw=; b=FZLOJgOHsXugdZNf2r31ch1mPS3lfZ0MjBE+hp/67LUZI8texxcgt1dW1t89hAvIW3 YUhOS5cTOoQg+we/qqs9edG2Tg/Rig4ItxdiOS5ni4Q17tdD3SAbJWZlTnhrT3NsotJD ztn/Sq7HKINxFfL0QTeJH/j2LMtuXCRbhjyks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=PadF6QyczK5/F1ZQELsmttusYgUNvDXPd9wXXtqTDW6IorTNSM5/p6/Pt7gEom5kW8 EJN3Mod6S/lnWjXGp4X5tTPWWIzKcIAVx6S7yT3LprfmD4nv88mG3lXZ7c+SHILFguxV qqTUWZGekLYN9hsq60nQP2nw06WEvIeGdNVtw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:17:46 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) I wish you a speedy recuperation, Per!! At least on the return home, the = -5 degree weather should minimize any swelling:)=20 OT: Congrats on another kick ass album review! -Todd Matthews On Feb 23, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at > this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 > (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have > my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 > months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). > Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 > Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from > the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:19:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E036D1834CF; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=9aqgavgveQoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=MxIg9nQ-mdrWNWMzXREA:9 a=H6XTkc4-VM7dQX6JPnkA:7 a=1CjA2OMiH8vwIMJrzR6iMgRg54kA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:19:40 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1144782952.3653398.1298495980517.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 42 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <0fYLBD.A.1m.vnXZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Stay well Per. Best wishes for your continued recovery and health. Ted > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas > wrote: >> Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this >> thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. >> >> :) > > Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at > this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 > (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have > my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 > months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). > Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 > Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from > the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:21:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E09D1834CF; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DFf9ck8kuOaEZB7z2yuVyQrxHfof8+T+WQIcwFV+1gM=; b=Pnb9PP20CKYO1GKroD+fpts111+yYZHuQuvPfgtSLADN/5F2pXRMKnQmU+TPIo5eOs VGThPWORYSfclmkVcG+8ubdhxgg14jnR8A+KvkqXyhebQia9BdEvj8lnV6qPswGNsD1U rDpQJez7LkKn2fPHKBvr/6/m5g5nDqc0Cfll4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qst1AKs4/0RN3YZh6ltIgWpg5TiXE6RE6f+2+Jbeyficdkw7hfpqjmmuyn8yl1IfHV uo67Gsn5qoa3BOllYt/auM7k2YS9rqTDP41mD23Sr9Ms6/AHOwye83X/AnLYJ6wkDM1e VB9VXL7hvx2qxaxA4pC6jh+Kv+h3ao6ZOHkr8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305f944ca66425049cf9ac53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:21:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf305f944ca66425049cf9ac53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh damn, now that I've been told I shouldn't, I must! Radiohead is experiMental as all get out! :) So there Mark, lol! On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > >.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when they > are not! > > Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? And, in the end, > who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something doesn't > automatically make it good. > > Jeff > --20cf305f944ca66425049cf9ac53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh damn, now that I've been told I shouldn't, I must! Radiohead is = experiMental as all get out! :) So there Mark, lol!

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Jeff Shirkey = <jcshirke@frontier.com><= /span> wrote:

>.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when they= are not!

Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? =A0And, in t= he end, who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something= doesn't automatically make it good.

Jeff

--20cf305f944ca66425049cf9ac53-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 21:58:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 156C6183486; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=DSuvzKYHJwN93ud5F1Pcas0xM4ZF5W3sE/9n6i7WGjE=; b=gmlYh9pQl8bba5L4SnzjSHuj0MMO4+rwl23DKteXQmQCOsYJvzg0fYW52ppSnx4hQS PYYFzoppGJrmrRrTASNvsTkBoOYkwRtvR/296U6NsBIHj2gID2bByVdDdeDiw/r/ePlC HUzy48qVQVG4hhj6cMGuWTahCOcYoJWqV6d+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=LBVlfi85WyXS2b/Z9LhlbMn0spOXB+ekYchubrMYrZA0MJe7ID4sMKUILPx+plZHPO z3aDiFYfZEYswmSVd/tifZSl/AAK8YVBC5E466qhZY6+whc6sWZ7sVzQ1hvlQlWt4Wtu jzVWTLJmGRAPRruQXgDjrosPvuv6jWgL+TmuI= References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <277FFA52-B35C-49D6-B5AF-53BB89783BAF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) From: Fabio_A Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:55:06 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Best wishes, Per ! -fabio www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 23/feb/2011, alle ore 22:07, Per Boysen ha s= critto: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas wro= te: >> Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this thr= ead would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. >>=20 >> :) >=20 > Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at > this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 > (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have > my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 > months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). > Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 > Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from > the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. >=20 > Per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 22:30:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC7C1834AC; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-217936410 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:29:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:30:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-217936410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung up on how > much Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He should do a > duo album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. :) WWWWWaaaaaa????? I saw Portishead live at the Warfield and she blew me away, almost like a different singer than on the records which I also like, she displayed power and range the recordings didn't totally convey, as did the rest of the band. I wasn't initially a Radiohead fan, High and Dry left me how shall I say high and dry? But his voice has grown on me, and I love how that band arranges guitars, no grand standers in that group, at least from a playing stand point. I dig Johnny Greenwood in the same way I dig Johnny Marr, inventive thematically minded guys with great sound and great hair.. I wish my name was Johnny. wish I had my hair???? What really has made me a fan of Radiohead, was seeing the basement live in the studio recordings they did for the In Rainbows CD. that stuff continues to be aired on PBS and its all over Youtube as well. The ensemble playing is stellar, the tunes are great and the sound is perfect. I'll probably get the new CD anyway but I'm more interested in finding out if anyone has heard the new PJ Harvey? Bill --Apple-Mail-1-217936410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I = didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung up on how
much = Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He should do a
duo = album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. = :)


WWWWWaaaaaa????? I saw = Portishead live at the Warfield and she blew me away, almost like a = different singer than on the records which I also like,  she = displayed power and range the recordings didn't totally convey, as did = the rest of the band. I wasn't initially a Radiohead fan,  High and = Dry left me how shall I say high and dry? But his voice has grown on me, = and I love how that band arranges guitars, no grand standers in that = group, at least from a playing stand point. I dig Johnny Greenwood in = the same way I dig Johnny Marr, inventive thematically minded guys with = great sound and great hair.. I wish my name was Johnny. wish I had my = hair????   What really has made me a fan of Radiohead, was seeing = the basement live in the studio recordings they did for the In Rainbows = CD. that stuff continues to be aired on PBS and its all over Youtube as = well. The ensemble playing is stellar, the tunes are great and the sound = is perfect.  I'll probably get the new CD anyway but I'm more = interested in finding out if anyone has heard the new PJ = Harvey?
Bill
= --Apple-Mail-1-217936410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 23:21:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50C1F18348D; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3sDU1qPzzBFVaCp+gTlu79M7iJaz6xAl0WWCE0hyffw=; b=A+kF9RI+sAJkuTxbk5lLgA0GxOfbVwAsi9omJ9yVyfJ/FPSOnVoJd3uSrBWYXfI4L2 I984GrBZPoMzbDU5inxASgvGW9Da6KOI37iQrGfLtXm4HtCqJoYqIg4es3m9SxAoMnsT CzyqJ2NUxvk5IndesqyJPWenQtSbrRI7DkDDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SpFyg9uW91h8orfnZO4Io19W8jrT5UrgrdBgIPQxf9vEpPW5uxHNRSc6+zoAiMQZYg EseaNpAcnB3oDOmhsuyX592rvP/FCWG9V5saFZuR14xT12en8b4YW+UqIS6zP/wMmRw/ YAbWNXuTwzJOed7UKM3XfoSeFSqCkw2qUGGz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:21:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Hehe, yeah, Todd...the only brand-spanking new Macs in our house have been for The Muse and she's not a power user, so it was never an issue. I've tended, like Per, to buy trailing edge Macs (my G5 was a 2-year-old-at-the-time "October Surprise", so I already knew what the "gotchas" were...it's now well on it's way to 6 years old and still running strong...aside from being a Power PC!). The two Dell MINI netbooks I did buy new, but specifically with the idea of making them Hackintoshes. As has begun to be mentioned, the useful life-cycle of the Macs, from a "professional" point of view (thanks, Per, for phrasing it that way!) really makes them worth the extra up-front costs whether you run OS X on them or use BootCamp to make them screaming Windows machines (I'm rather enjoying using Win 7 on our monster iMac!). Best, Dennis PS...if you can afford it, buy AppleCare w/ the new machine! http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > That was where I went so wrong! After reading your great advice, Per and Dennis, it does make a convincing case to stick with a macbook. > -Todd Matthews > On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Finally, I tend to not buy the latest model, rather "last year's >> model" because then I can chose the gear that has proven to work well >> for what I intend to use it for. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 23:29:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC4C7183496; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=j8MwMUNaQr8z4cr9dRYWVnmNEXt71oRpYJnlKNDQtbE=; b=v8nsPCur8npp91pdxAHn2BnmlC6WYzH5NSEeRfLSSy4F44N4StJIhdm32SdMrYzfpe 3r+Lidpg+f+4Bpd+lqnX9jkhrurUWvzLi4qQzvXOlruGCg8NcUVSbY6g4X1V8yaliTgm YwsfHv8UAAKc7VD5X6EWxd88Cu/8KMEoszI6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=NLwbuAPjQ95DpWCvb6db81/mrA1zFLNWWFw7tfKarIzfTB4trqhWMV0yzQMmFrFOvO +CMr7VI54Gk7fP9RGx3N4jW/pSdmQmxYlPvzSCrWE3SXG1KJ3G+6T5Yt24z58WfLyo2J lnbvZdkxvSL8SiXYzHtchPiKVz3wkbjk6dYMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid> <84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:29:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hin_F-kccOozeLlvhM8ArUFLO_A Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b919690c9ab049cfb783f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:29:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b919690c9ab049cfb783f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part, but not > all, of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and dancing > to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar? > > > Peace, love and enlightenment > As long as I got the drugs, dancing and the ecstacy, you could keep the spirit world, peace, love and enlightenment... -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016363b919690c9ab049cfb783f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part, = but not all, of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and= dancing=A0 to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar?


Peace,= love and enlightenment

As long as I got the drugs, dancing and the ecstacy, = you could keep the spirit world, peace, love and enlightenment...
=


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--0016363b919690c9ab049cfb783f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Feb 23 23:37:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A80B183486; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Fs6SFMBBX235nknxHqhtRvXPdhhfilUs2/Lvkdn4X5g=; b=mK5Qa+lXNRrdhQcEAtHfHRYIBKrvw78E1v5wNiNEFCZ+knsPMKQIFQiH/fVBISUQhU UlGBnaufqletNQJcw7CuWFOchCitv1Wh1HHWIebSnnm08tF8LB/a2d4Ndy/Sd7Rh1ero ym5OXDt2WdQGpiGFXHT2KyCrjRIboN5VZ6ww8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Yq4GoCpFI6IU0M6KiYMGqCVUB0sVUpKJdatONKeMoFnA6o/Kxdd8xk7pQxap97MeXu UFCo2sgFR3X1j6pDJzvdM49W9aKMXaeHuI0wkVDYkW8nhKz57lOmcFH/yPLfGOYT/FEH yejHRWUxQIUti0VcY3BshVGoTNwZDfYQiqBjs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:36:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FwHKLZlrzVsIjezdPaWwiAeU4MI Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fbf72f584be049cfb927d Resent-Message-ID: <1LQzpB.A.YuD.foZZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:37:03 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba4fbf72f584be049cfb927d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...? After talking to you at y2Kx about it, and my recent experiences, I kinda knew that you would getting that final bit of your treatment anyday now, was gonna ask you off list how it was going... >> "default-mode-minus-30-cm" ...dont hurry that first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say that out loud..? Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya... MArk On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas > wrote: > > Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this > thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. > > > > :) > > Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at > this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 > (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have > my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 > months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). > Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 > Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from > the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. > > Per > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba4fbf72f584be049cfb927d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...?
After talking to you at y2Kx = about it, and my recent experiences, I kinda knew that you would getting th= at final bit of your treatment anyday now, was gonna ask you off list how i= t was going...

>> "default-mode-minus-30-cm"

=A0...dont hurry t= hat first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say that out loud..?

= Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya...

MArk






On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:0= 7 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
> Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... t= his thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me.
>
> :)

Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) =A0I won't become immortal= but at
this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5
(man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have<= br> my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just d= id 7
months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run).
Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2
Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from
the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation.

Per




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twitter @markfrancombe
--90e6ba4fbf72f584be049cfb927d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 00:36:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4C6183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=uj/Ou3r23g1srM27Vyg0ibB1iiLvmKNoHhB7g77MXvg=; b=NN1NljOZME9gk096ZcAJ9OSCdc94TqJHN1009+y/5zA74+lBLfbHtagLVtUQSpJyJ1 UsOZbQ3LHg54C/q0Jmce+Ng6UHqK0AFfPhpZZ6w0/W1nK+IbI3ZOABStr1z4KlmLNUYm 34H5s/Mw+cU1TAeGeyksqOZ3Gn+qzmAl3A1gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=jOzzL13JA2xaUgAd2HQI+PTq0cWI0WCgNiqNrE1hgfSc4VWmmOFmwql29AypQJaZIf cCqVH9hG1QjB2rAa+14zTSN1hX8TFYbv/ZWBi1JFwMQ5jUeBKNo7MVjJS12un0AzrG1l yXikX2F4oH95GR030EYEe2/FOxalIUJRjIvOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:35:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4ef7ad7be049cfc6542 Resent-Message-ID: <6-gZ4D.A.xDF.kgaZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:36:52 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4ef7ad7be049cfc6542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had no idea you went through any of this, Per. You're a strong man. not that I couldn't have surmised that anyway, but you haven't skipped a beat. unless it was with a 'replace', but I'd never have known. Such good news. renewed good health to you! On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...? > After talking to you at y2Kx about it, and my recent experiences, I kinda > knew that you would getting that final bit of your treatment anyday now, = was > gonna ask you off list how it was going... > > > >> "default-mode-minus-30-cm" > > ...dont hurry that first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say that o= ut > loud..? > > Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya... > > MArk > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas >> wrote: >> > Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this >> thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. >> > >> > :) >> >> Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) I won't become immortal but at >> this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 >> (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have >> my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 >> months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). >> Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 >> Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from >> the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. >> >> Per >> >> > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a4ef7ad7be049cfc6542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had no idea you went through any of this, Per. =A0You're a strong man= . =A0not that I couldn't have surmised that anyway, but you haven't= skipped a beat. =A0

unless it was with a 'replace&#= 39;, but I'd never have known.=A0

Such good news. =A0renewed good health to you!=A0
=

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, mark f= rancombe <ma= rk@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...? <= br>After talking to you at y2Kx about it, and my recent experiences, I kind= a knew that you would getting that final bit of your treatment anyday now, = was gonna ask you off list how it was going...


>> "default-mode-minus-30-cm"

=A0...dont h= urry that first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say that out loud..?
Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya...

MArk







On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:0= 7 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote= :
> Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... t= his thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me.
>
> :)

Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) =A0I won't become immortal= but at
this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5
(man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have<= br> my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just d= id 7
months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run).
Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2
Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from
the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation.

Per




<= /div>
--
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www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe



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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon a= vailable on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. =A0= The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0= I'd be delighted to have you there.=A0

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rou= ge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still= available for the newly added show.=A0


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--20cf3054a4ef7ad7be049cfc6542-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 05:31:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9223B183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C//C5X+agqIo9Vo30N83zpjFwbPA6n9IgCO0jnUHGVI=; b=h0vz/IXQp/j11Siw42bFerLwou/L8glPjGYTbrepzK0MC12PuvQeXWGCR4old4k+jS MyAISpLTMKZ/vulgSZgQXRmJ+/Eedxjdz7vhnDE42idDJkX9HVklvzU9ywwOM/UXYhUb 9qSelApyS/ITjDT+bO2h5V92FOhLjcFmCdcDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dunJNx9d/90u3nfgCW2dTScmEJVQH8xpIVwMcRzCATDYcbRtS8obIMaQYUVMs1LkdJ N7ECvWXAAV0bexbPQVxN2y6vmyGkNLMZJ/3tvQRRtvs1rV2CDDX+zqnN6DT48P+BwQMR NIL6g6PF7pGQ/kJ9su1wXkSCeOL+aA3rvXEBc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6557F7.2010808@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:31:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015176f052ad613ce049d008618 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:31:36 +0000 (UTC) --0015176f052ad613ce049d008618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You are all awesome!!!Thanks so much for the responses, I cant wait to read through this whole thread. After 2 days of working since posting this, this is fantastic reading!!! Thanks again all! Rafael On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Hehe, yeah, Todd...the only brand-spanking new Macs in our house have > been for The Muse and she's not a power user, so it was never an > issue. I've tended, like Per, to buy trailing edge Macs (my G5 was a > 2-year-old-at-the-time "October Surprise", so I already knew what the > "gotchas" were...it's now well on it's way to 6 years old and still > running strong...aside from being a Power PC!). The two Dell MINI > netbooks I did buy new, but specifically with the idea of making them > Hackintoshes. > > As has begun to be mentioned, the useful life-cycle of the Macs, from > a "professional" point of view (thanks, Per, for phrasing it that > way!) really makes them worth the extra up-front costs whether you run > OS X on them or use BootCamp to make them screaming Windows machines > (I'm rather enjoying using Win 7 on our monster iMac!). > > Best, > > Dennis > > PS...if you can afford it, buy AppleCare w/ the new machine! > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Todd Matthews > wrote: > > That was where I went so wrong! After reading your great advice, Per and > Dennis, it does make a convincing case to stick with a macbook. > > -Todd Matthews > > On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > >> Finally, I tend to not buy the latest model, rather "last year's > >> model" because then I can chose the gear that has proven to work well > >> for what I intend to use it for. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --0015176f052ad613ce049d008618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are all awesome!!!Thanks so much for the responses, I cant wait to read= through this whole thread. After 2 days of working since posting this, thi= s is fantastic reading!!! Thanks again all!
Rafael

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hehe, yeah, Todd...the only brand-spanking new Macs in our house have
been for The Muse and she's not a power user, so it was never an
issue. I've tended, like Per, to buy trailing edge Macs (my G5 was a 2-year-old-at-the-time "October Surprise", so I already knew what= the
"gotchas" were...it's now well on it's way to 6 years old= and still
running strong...aside from being a Power PC!). The two Dell MINI
netbooks I did buy new, but specifically with the idea of making them
Hackintoshes.

As has begun to be mentioned, the useful life-cycle of the Macs, from
a "professional" point of view (thanks, Per, for =A0phrasing it t= hat
way!) really makes them worth the extra up-front costs whether you run
OS X on them or use BootCamp to make them screaming Windows machines
(I'm rather enjoying using Win 7 on our monster iMac!).

Best,

Dennis

PS...if you can afford it, buy AppleCare w/ the new machine!

http://soundclo= ud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM, To= dd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.co= m> wrote:
> That was where I went so wrong! After reading your great advice, Per a= nd Dennis, it does make a convincing case to stick with a macbook.
> -Todd Matthews
> On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote:
>
>> Finally, I tend to not buy the latest model, rather "last yea= r's
>> model" because then I can chose the gear that has proven to w= ork well
>> for what I intend to use it for.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>
>
>
>
>
>




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--0015176f052ad613ce049d008618-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 07:41:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1ADF18347B; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=54YGXAuSVwT8ngJH+X8ybGmAVZWjlWL//nDxkEeAfO0=; b=KtRE1n3zvFNgpE86LTzXXCylMA+wz9zi9mH3aGBwf0CvQDnxDcAM5nunK4yQ59P/u4 /RR+XTctk/Am2SOVAzwxzNuvjQK7i6aCxip3hotqMsCbl5YqnvdxaI7w/Ib0EJHyp8Yg tCDSo8DonhduUf6kJt2Qim8PYilV3cP92U+cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tdg+0AGVCXOvg+jweLJkEQPP8DaylKihK0LwdZ8LvITj1XwzqlyUTz8AApux4fhe1/ G3y6T2WM6aXc4AFjOcNV8q6wDSLGa2JyZM8H9f+jXdzghUUgq2Use0aZpPLf5dpQJ17W WNUTC5LfpN0Y43JRFVF8MLnjIj0z17l9Ct5U4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 23:41:49 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Rafael Nunes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6152c29e8452049d02588c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:41:50 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6152c29e8452049d02588c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think John Cage would argue any music that "experiments" is experimental. So really, only the creator of a piece can say whether or not it is or isn't experimental. Putting my ramblings aside for the moment however lol I think Radiohead is far more inventive, original and sonically driven in terms of songwriting, and album creation than most bands out there, especially most bands that play on the level that they play. Are they 'Can' or John Zorn? No... but OK Computer is still, in my opinion, one of the most revolutionary albums of my lifetime (I'm 28) in terms of production, and songwriting. Likewise Kid A might've been one of the most musically interesting statements a band could make, being as big as they were then. I think that takes serious courage and guts. I admire that, and I don't think a lot of bands that get to the level they got to, have done what they did, and continue to do for their fans, and in the name of music. Just my 2 cents on Radiohead. So Experimental, maybe not but who are we to judge? Experimental-y, safe to say "yes"! Rafael On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:38 AM, wrote: > excellent question, 'Who gets to decide'.. if one is into experimental > music, Radiohead may not seem experimental, but if one is into pop music, > they would seem experimental.. maybe it's 'experimentally' like something > can be 'jazzy'.. lol.. :) > > > Quoting Jeff Shirkey : > > >> .. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when >>> >> they are not! >> >> Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? And, in the >> end, who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something doesn't >> automatically make it good. >> >> Jeff >> > > > -- Rafa's One Man Band Online: http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc http://vimeo.com/11499020 http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband --90e6ba6152c29e8452049d02588c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think John Cage would argue any music that "experiments" is exp= erimental. So really, only the creator of a piece can say whether or not it= is or isn't experimental. Putting my ramblings aside =A0for the moment= however lol I think Radiohead is far more inventive, original and sonicall= y driven in terms of songwriting, and album creation than most bands out th= ere, especially most bands that play on the level that they play. Are they = 'Can' or John Zorn? No... but OK Computer is still, in my opinion, = one of the most revolutionary albums of my lifetime (I'm 28) in terms o= f production, and songwriting. Likewise Kid A might've been one of the = most musically interesting statements a band could make, being as big as th= ey were then. I think that takes serious courage and guts. I admire that, a= nd I don't think a lot of bands that get to the level they got to, have= done what they did, and continue to do for their fans, and in the name of = music. Just my 2 cents on Radiohead. So Experimental, maybe not but who are= we to judge? Experimental-y, safe to say "yes"!
Rafael

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:38= AM, <cpr@musetra= p.com> wrote:
excellent question, 'Who gets to decide'.. if one is into experimen= tal music, Radiohead may not seem experimental, but if one is into pop musi= c, they would seem experimental.. maybe it's 'experimentally' l= ike something can be 'jazzy'.. lol.. :)


Quoting Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com>:


.. I just dont think people should SAY they are experimental, when
they are not!

Who gets to decide what's experimental and what isn't? =A0And, in t= he
end, who cares? Slapping the label "experimental" on something do= esn't
automatically make it good.

Jeff





--
Rafa's = One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
--90e6ba6152c29e8452049d02588c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 08:46:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D34DA183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_426ddd68-4319-4108-8be0-e31f233fb7b3_" X-Originating-IP: [193.62.88.7] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:46:53 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid>,<84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,,,,<215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 08:46:53.0590 (UTC) FILETIME=[62AE4360:01CBD3FF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:46:57 +0000 (UTC) --_426ddd68-4319-4108-8be0-e31f233fb7b3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess that leaves you with drugs=2C dancing & ecstacy and the rest with M= aterialism=2C war and hate - that sounds familiar too.. P=2CL & E's =20 G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ =20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Thu=2C 24 Feb 2011 00:29:19 +0100 Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 9:44 PM=2C Gareth Whittock wrote: Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part=2C but not= all=2C of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and danc= ing to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar? Peace=2C love and enlightenment As long as I got the drugs=2C dancing and the ecstacy=2C you could keep the= spirit world=2C peace=2C love and enlightenment... --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.comhttp://vimeo.com/user825094http://ww= w.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe = --_426ddd68-4319-4108-8be0-e31f233fb7b3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess that leaves you with drugs=2C dancing &=3B ecstacy and the rest = with Materialism=2C war and hate =3B - that sounds familiar too..
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Date: Thu=2C 24 Feb 2011 00:29:19 +0100
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On Wed=2C Feb 23=2C 2011 at 9:44 PM=2C Gareth Whitt= ock <=3Bbuddh= amachine@live.co.uk>=3B wrote:
 ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBD438.3594EA80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 15:45:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6DF41834A2; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9AE21FB0-1945-44EE-9B0A-3EECB77D3455@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Gordius BLG extension Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:45:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) I have been using an old roland fc 50 as a sattelite for my LG, though its just 5 switches that can be accessed directly (you can bank up or down to more presets but for some idiot reason probably tied in to the modeling amp it was originally designed to power, the bank switches also act to send PC messages meaning you can't change banks without triggering a preset . dumb dumb dumb) That being so it provides a handy extender for my LG that is small, light weight and can be battey powered if needed. I plugged it in to the "from FCB" midi jack and it worked without any reconfiguration. depending on yor needs you could go even smaller to something like a tech 21 midi mouse, or a tc g minor. You might need a midi merge box for routing more than two foot pedals. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 15:51:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B920183485; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xrM05ynwwQaui4hsrfzXhjIKdhW6yvDRNkFM7bcYT+Y=; b=dPMkIxDBv4bQJu8BGyKwO0/8hKVTONWnVaup+ecM1mWNi2DVxohe0qCYDn7QreYyUD CPwN1xoyTd9kS18XDlmkBL35S7qJC78nmZDF/dbzQTDldhv1Fwdt6qVIMxvVVKdR/lby UNw9FXwAjpNBZv7KMas9colALFfeFybM9ECs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l9dv8hk6cBIUufGJcm3vwsdEN9WIT54iElfeCDPD659R18W41xEm0NQqGyVZZsSPJb ZbdLy92obzAkQt0IFISXV998c2rrUkhNOWY7ecEKW47aHTN91XrsDV/CMB9c3pClrpmx ScouckVsVzKA0AQt/LhtevlGLe3qXeX9m/PH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stick stand From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Nice that you are able to play the Stick on a stand. I'm finding that extremely difficult. I remember someone at the Stick forum posting pictures of a stand he had built himself. A stand that holds the instrument at a convenient playing postion. Oh, and the duo Heartstrings always use stands for playing. Search them out on YouTube. Myself I strap it on very tight at an almost vertical position. I like the feeling of having the instrument "glued to the body". It may not be possible to "dance about architecture" but you definitely can dance about music as "a cheat" to improve playing accuracy ;-) Per On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > While the following lists itself as a stand for the Stick, it=E2=80=99s n= ot the only > stand that can perform this task. > http://www.stick.com/accessories/stand/ > > Hercules makes a stand that has adjustable supports on the bottom to > accommodate thin-profile instruments, like the Stick, or for that matter = the > Steinbergers. > http://www.herculesstands.com/guitars/guitarstands.html > > Either way it should be what you want. > > From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:42 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: stick stand > > I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. D= oes > anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick? > The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on = the > stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it t= he > regular way... > > Antony Hequet > > ________________________________ > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM > Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro > >> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: >> >>> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most >>> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced >>> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or >>> later if working fulltime with the gear). > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens wrote= : >> Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack >> mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I ha= ve >> huge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or staple= s or >> best buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile = of >> laptops in my office corner, none working or worth fixing. >> >> Andy o > > That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years > ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up > with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio > music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my > documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on > external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system. > If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't > have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply > restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then > opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue > could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that > system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components > and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to > put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a > good thing. > > Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:15:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79DFF183485; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6EB635AE-18E1-4452-8D93-588CAEDA6B22@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-281838597 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:15:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:15:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-281838597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit andy ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock. What???????? And to think that I was just about to send you my entire Stadium Rock record collection because I thought you wanted it Andy!!!!! Its all there the Styx, the Journey, the Foreigner, the REO Speedwagon, and of course the Billy Squier. I was going to send you a bunch of bic lighters as well so you and Peta could stand in front of the stereo, flick your bics and pump your fists. Now I feel empty........ Bill --Apple-Mail-1-281838597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable andy ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock.
Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part=2C bu= t not all=2C of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and= dancing =3B to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar?


P= eace=2C love and enlightenment

As long as I got the drugs=2C dancing and the ecstacy=2C you could= keep the spirit world=2C peace=2C love and enlightenment...


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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com=
http://vimeo.com/user8= 25094
http://www.looop.no<= /A>
twitter @markfrancombe
= --_426ddd68-4319-4108-8be0-e31f233fb7b3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 09:36:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B84F183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 575852055/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksCAMa1ZU1YbRDV/2dsb2JhbAAMmAbMFoVgBI9N X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,215,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="575852055" Message-ID: <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:36:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Rafael Nunes wrote: > Radiohead is far more inventive, original and > sonically driven in terms of songwriting, and album creation than most > bands out there, not necessarily a sign of great talent I think the term "Indie Pop" was mentioned. Anyone else out there hate Indie Pop? andy ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 09:42:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 874ED183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=response X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-24_05:2011-02-24,2011-02-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102240021 Message-id: <3C29F73A2C4B4A6E85680CEA16DD9D3C@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:42:50 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:42:53 +0000 (UTC) I hate BAD indie pop. I hate BAD anything, whatever the genre. t http://tinyurl.com/smokingheartdesigns ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:36 AM Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead > Rafael Nunes wrote: > >> Radiohead is far more inventive, original and >> sonically driven in terms of songwriting, and album creation than most >> bands out there, > > not necessarily a sign of great talent > > I think the term "Indie Pop" was mentioned. > Anyone else out there hate Indie Pop? > > andy > ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 10:19:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66FB1183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 580990237/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksCACe/ZU1YbRDV/2dsb2JhbAAMmAbLeYVgBI9N X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,215,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="580990237" Message-ID: <4D6630D3.9020100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:20:03 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <3C29F73A2C4B4A6E85680CEA16DD9D3C@NORBY11> In-Reply-To: <3C29F73A2C4B4A6E85680CEA16DD9D3C@NORBY11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5-pNpC.A.tzD.ODjZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:19:59 +0000 (UTC) with Indie Pop, I suspect it's the "good stuff" I find particularly uninspiring. There's a certain inventiveness that often occurs when a musician *doesn't* have the knowledge and skill to sound like their favourite band. andy Toby G wrote: > I hate BAD indie pop. I hate BAD anything, whatever the genre. > > t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 10:32:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF2C18347B; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 164014.16775.bm@omp1032.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=VN7/YPvcnwvAfdpXgS2U2AMA8a0HH2fNyC8ndiHG9bGTwPocEZnrC9aa7Tcy9hxhndNgJCUTge7EVuFmnDs/UI5mvQYSyj7qT6azkeRTMYvvgVBo1zjFa0obV4zs2ND7SxWs25uA/Mf4qkWSEJSkcuL2RtUv+XXwoggZ9DrtEYE= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298543537; bh=Cz2W4uf9Pu7UgnwI1P8ZTSXs0a8xvvFIAiJByYDVPEM=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=xYocott3F+SOp7E6RM5WauPizw8kEc5f+tvjVD5NigkFb912AL74J96L/ahDXmpV9KtsuFXR8KYYZzlip3pR32p7ptomxjmZDY6u88V7iQ9DJxHWuB27Sb2kxGBWGgoSzshTnvjiIvwK9F5ZmZNiOHxh90RsKwEW0HMyg30N7mE= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: P1hM8uIVM1mIOGwn0wImMT0WoHeHjLnUXTf9jAowdXDMQtp 3Th4vCx3q_f_hSrrDjWKJDd7ngiOlHX1kO0grJ3VomT8n9D9JI5NktVlQhwL wo4tXBi_bJ6YBwcRp8bzOP6KC4xmT838s1JTDF0gjy0.zNh9NYczZXRHUBeg oFcxh8Llv9N8vjOWZFZJ6TubxHaw4cxH1YFWRYHo11OVEr24HoK3P8LqI_73 szMTQV_c4yOPb0jnRGkk94qgSgiBiqvq3IyDIfbu6.88jhv0W2al6bk2VFHH pMHkmfY_XwRM3XQ_jRmDUdpA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <3C29F73A2C4B4A6E85680CEA16DD9D3C@NORBY11> <4D6630D3.9020100@tiscali.co.uk> From: Matt Stevens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: <4D6630D3.9020100@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:33:26 +0000 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:32:18 +0000 (UTC) I miss really bad playing - thanks to pro tools everything sounds competent n= ow.=20 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Feb 2011, at 10:20, andy butler wrote: > with Indie Pop, I suspect it's the "good stuff" > I find particularly uninspiring. >=20 > There's a certain inventiveness that often occurs > when a musician *doesn't* have the knowledge and > skill to sound like their favourite band. >=20 > andy >=20 > Toby G wrote: >> I hate BAD indie pop. I hate BAD anything, whatever the genre. >> t >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 12:43:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C801183479; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=m5ygAlEHfb6tl+5bf9sKZnG7y9ab/09uu7TfrZOVGqg=; b=PELy6Nn9eYpAgKLWtG2/t5kvDa8GAJxJFJZ5Jne4xFVKARQd8gZgoFeYquR0+9kn68 +DSViP8XLmAIcNA7+n5qLw/y9P0FTnVj+mG3wRE00jvA449Yulyfvov6oQCOIV9r4Pqq ePgAAqxYLTFW3wpFdci58OkqWOulTzgD2ZUcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Wite2/jLOT1cUI1LzZVDYdbhsXsypFP4wPfRrPHmeDRVRT2zX9WcBrJyNtrTF+iHRe MYaiPmViR7d11JBhBUH/gB5zhlCYyHbYoCBDQu8D95RTwoE4aRvmMBkQ6NVjtuDQM1t5 hspNLcs14oTYD3a16We6Tb0N7jgVUBWxGLNEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:40:36 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wGxaOItaCrSxO3utVaHdCqN_0J8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163683210c0ff06a049d068942 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:43:05 +0000 (UTC) --00163683210c0ff06a049d068942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, andy butler wrote= : > I think the term "Indie Pop" was mentioned. > Anyone else out there hate Indie Pop? > NO!! I LOVE Indie pop... (not sure if it being called pop or rock helps at all?) Im not a huge fan of the somewhat dreary moany whiny indie music, but I love the noisy, messy distorted happy sounds of 80=B4s indie. Bands like Lush, Wedding Present, My Bloody Valentine, Blur, Moonshake, Silver fish (maybe more grunge?) Ride, Primal Scream,The Smiths, Jesus and Mary Chain, Does anyone remember the very wonderful Fire Engines? Im realizing now that Ive quoted mostly (or all) English Indie bands, and when I think about how it sounded in the US, (REM, Pixies) was never really "indie" sounding to me... Pixies were cool, but were they "indie"? I dont think so, they had more influences from US Hardcore etc... I actually have a copy of the NME cassette called C86, that was often cited as the beginning of the style of "indie" music, forgetting for a moment the REAL meaning of indie, as in independant label. This to me was pop music (as in happy happy songs) written by people with fairly little musical skill, but with a BONUS of enthusiasm, resulted in great songs, but without the annoying fluff of earnest singer/songwriters, or commercialism or ego... Yes.. its the lack of ego I think that I found s= o appealing... just speedy, distorted music with great tunes... I mean, we know that "girl guide" chords (as opposed to Barre Chords) sound terrible distorted... well no one told the "indie kids" that.. so you get this wonderful clashing mush, often on these really twangy guitars (fender teles and jags).. Sorry Andy... but Ill have to arm-wrestle you on that one! :-) M --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00163683210c0ff06a049d068942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
I think the term "Indie Pop" was mentioned.
Anyone else out there hate Indie Pop?

NO!! I LOV= E Indie pop... (not sure if it being called pop or rock helps at all?) Im n= ot a huge fan of the somewhat dreary moany whiny indie music, but I love th= e noisy, messy distorted happy sounds of 80=B4s indie. Bands like Lush, Wed= ding Present, My Bloody Valentine, Blur, Moonshake, Silver fish (maybe more= grunge?) Ride, Primal Scream,The Smiths, Jesus and Mary Chain, Does anyone= remember the very wonderful Fire Engines?

Im realizing now that Ive quoted mostly (or all) English Indie bands, a= nd when I think about how it sounded in the US, (REM, Pixies) was never rea= lly "indie" sounding to me... Pixies were cool, but were they &qu= ot;indie"? I dont think so, they had more influences from US Hardcore = etc...

I actually have a copy of the NME cassette called C86, that was often c= ited as the beginning of the style of "indie" music, forgetting f= or a moment the REAL meaning of indie, as in independant label.

This to me was pop music (as in happy happy songs) written by people with f= airly little musical skill, but with a BONUS of enthusiasm, resulted in gre= at songs, but without the annoying fluff of earnest singer/songwriters, or = commercialism or ego... Yes.. its the lack of ego I think that I found so a= ppealing... just speedy, distorted music with great tunes...

I mean, we know that "girl guide" chords (as opposed to Barre= Chords) sound terrible distorted... well no one told the "indie kids&= quot; that.. so you get this wonderful clashing mush, often on these really= twangy guitars (fender teles and jags)..

Sorry Andy... but Ill have to arm-wrestle you on that one!

:-)

M

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www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--00163683210c0ff06a049d068942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 12:47:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D693E183479; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 575956813/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksCAAPFZU1YbRDV/2dsb2JhbAAMmAbMAIVgBI9N X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,215,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="575956813" Message-ID: <4D66535F.2000107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:47:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <3C29F73A2C4B4A6E85680CEA16DD9D3C@NORBY11> <4D6630D3.9020100@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:47:25 +0000 (UTC) :-) Sure, I love to hear it when the timing slips then finds it way back somehow. That's not my point though, I wouldn't exactly equate inability to imitate with lack of innate musical ability. andy >> There's a certain inventiveness that often occurs >> when a musician *doesn't* have the knowledge and >> skill to sound like their favourite band. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 13:39:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EB44183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/GwxF4CtmkxpOJOmiMyWO/YZ1BR0311H2erkP/R+WZA=; b=fGx5TkwCMiKO1rihyDJffdhndTymQh7JC/9Z42YjKfB6v1fVEk+qr6myO/9542V1k4 9yPGSjhu80KOhZtWPiihD1KvcJytq4hbk4O/sgljaUE6a3p0HKHJm/7wuAMLEMOfk/mp dfXvT0cltXugaIMj67Q8SYeiV2pyZm+70D1ZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=okn3+2ydMnA4FXmL/sAwCGyd/GeqzAnWq5KVb4P9mjS7rWR9IyVuzbFNZSi6ix2JS5 rKXc5kh5jrNH6jn6RggNSA0RhLrJCorpRSwj0Ek1FwaJu/mqZjSJhlvISZwta6rI60cM VZJYuXTDFsTkjZFGO8F454Inmf//4SzTvB0eY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:39:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Or *just happened*, rather :-) Woke up as a re-designed man-machine and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. per On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:36 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...? > After talking to you at y2Kx about it, and my recent experiences, I kinda > knew that you would getting that final bit of your treatment anyday now, = was > gonna ask you off list how it was going... > >>> "default-mode-minus-30-cm" > > =C2=A0...dont hurry that first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say t= hat out > loud..? > > Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya... > > MArk > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas >> wrote: >> > Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this >> > thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. >> > >> > :) >> >> Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) =C2=A0I won't become immortal but= at >> this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 >> (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have >> my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 >> months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). >> Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 >> Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from >> the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. >> >> Per >> > > > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 13:46:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B50183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:45:32 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thread-topic: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro thread-index: AcvUKR/3U6Rn5dZzQWyt1XA+Jmj57A== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 13:46:36.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[414BDEB0:01CBD429] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a souped= up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease of operati= on blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. Why not spen= d half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:04:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34331183477; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SGFDcpeoAjrh0JngBeCZmmB/I75HcvCLUcdjMmin5ao=; b=VonHDVOmUs3EX6PDV/0CH5aQYr4203deXE8UuMHE/peFu+IHbD9YG6Lhiv5DRDIUda KTlFZlbjDZxCzHnZEgZg1ooRzYh7GSidssBhmyJJAIOqGv2gsAjcRZj5TyZIE/vqQO3U uF4G/d+JdrCDnfUZczfRuh/cO60v2Aw2s37z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ESqItQNHwYnVZnNNXa2Q0PKt6MRMAGalPz2DoYRK9+XYPWr/HCMRiEUzU49v/fzC/s AgY/F4lNtRCmCaiDAKwIjPDPPCLsfziIHsDn8HYTw+YBeAPGFsMJbz13r+xQRmNNVBaA YPJf886W0trPQPBKh/ttKNyPFdlBo4DXi1jek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FU_s8R4v3O5ZQLcsBABHNwWYGFk Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f6eb9243d2049d07b10a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:04:37 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f6eb9243d2049d07b10a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Or *just happened*, rather :-) Woke up as a re-designed man-machine > and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. > > per > And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine.. remember "less is more!" M -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --00163630f6eb9243d2049d07b10a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Or *just happened*, rather :-) =A0Woke up as a re-designed= man-machine
and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT.

per

And thus the evolution of man continued, som= eday, all people will be made this way, better, faster, cleverer and with o= ne foot less intestine.. remember "less is more!"

M
=A0

--
Mark Francombe<= /i>
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--00163630f6eb9243d2049d07b10a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:05:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4CD8183475; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LJeAWSTvF7WxLW870grf7m8/1c+H0I9hlED9TwD5nxI=; b=O+ewuGwdZwawmJ63Y5SUhr7t1livJiu/4vRVQ1ZQu6uQnbDGSFRfHDkArwTTjcooLa 8nYVtGmzG85JIME75hkw2+X6LMDcDimMrhZImJ38+OLNG+5qqxKV24Jv+nED7kmMgATJ O5eBlPn2ftZ/vqgTQXIiHe2qqvmEle80dU1TI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xg0CBza/gnmK4hr+tFTouOY8a4MkYgnujuc49qXM/1AX9mtf1ip8u6IbNRwT3OoBOA IRdUdia5mNpV0u23Ilab1Jo8KqdW/n4qWj6fIWnqoLf6ALrRFdr0vWXRzbQj+GwA/iVX 02ZJEfJP5I32S2pSQmDdVar/t1X4j5sX1J6jE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:05:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:05:58 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a sou= ped up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease of ope= ration blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. Why not= spend half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? That was at the very start of this thread. Someone wants the Apple hardware but has most his software for Windows. Hardware-wise it might be just the same components inside the boxes but what Mac users appreciate is that Apple boxes are more standardized and have passed a quality control an the manufacturing process. From this follows that if you are working with the box you may suffer less down-time if a Mac breaks down compared if a Windows only box goes belly-up. For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or later if working fulltime with the gear). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:13:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31775183474; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:13:05 -0500 To: thread-topic: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thread-index: AcvULPsxkbXt5Ts/SWqj/S/rGmk3FQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 14:13:48.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E332200:01CBD42D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:13:49 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most > powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced > with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or > later if working fulltime with the gear). Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack mount= able one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I have huge o= ptions for getting back up and running, any office syore or staples or best b= uy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of laptops= in my office corner, none working or worth fixing.=20 Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:26:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65249183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o9tnsV2rhlE0aMBgtRJjSD49I40RQBbaXz1waMqYLt4=; b=qqLVv7p82bFIQ+AVqfJ6isBCOk4cLdonqSKt1HZpIrq6ssymT4bbWHbvH89D/IUDiv REF+8Qj/84Px+tBh9yAutmHBkN4vqpvC6czZ5LWuEsgvKKMohWX5HI/2proGrL3WhQGu 9mDBJjYcV9Jp4JYB0RpB+L0CaMn+aWQQCWl2k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=da+MDdLQa2PxBN5HmEWw7YCy2S4HonEL0uuCe9CaUbfRVZofRCeSMz7k9oCq3AOO2r 5g5WSQ1PVvZ324HqFXqCJMXXIds/rGBoNF3X3/EXN1zS5kvcAblpEVszzfxgjKerqh7e V55T6xLu8dAbAk2xphKlPwRkeUJ8q5xIO5Ipc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:26:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-99ZfB.A.nKD.yqmZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) > On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most >> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced >> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or >> later if working fulltime with the gear). On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack mo= untable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I have hu= ge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or staples or = best buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of = laptops in my office corner, none working or worth fixing. > > Andy o That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system. If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a good thing. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:42:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CCAE18347F; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 641262.44152.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298558534; bh=VfHwSNgM4/I6uS7sWDBteFH+tYkgrPptetGWjX3hsco=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ev5QWRzgbZU3+mDkRA1yJ65JPCg4vDBy0JAT2HZkjxbiZMES6GqzX8XpudUGw7OKuRBgNiGI5Zl+i6lnz7emryqrdygYV2wZdKWpLmEfo4CKImdzXbkxEfwyGpxwtwa6B0Tj8p0adwcVdDzC9ynkT0KhUtdwW0Kk+HC++/GNUmo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zSbHGjbpPEqyAi8Hi5haemQ8pEWgAAzOnkSGSp/miSZj8N0s9tap24gBeZTn++tIkTs9naQeoVJTUJOnZm6z9pn5O3iYrXXoul42pqnG2QPCgc/4b7TDvNljRb8HUu086v7u634GEARJqZ9hjZ8XcKgeWES9Dx3BnGELbkB+d80=; Message-ID: <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MD2MzEwVM1mjwOhT5Y02OwOA6GDrXSJbYWhVIjQTztG6ckp NblzZ70dMuc.yeCsGImtyoKknMsUZlQ8ZtQH0v3xk_Dqw7vCppm9zE90wfaH D1APKSDVAm8CD7_2Y.m9Zq4vtx9jTfYg4AhoDFcjfKg1jxXjwkIwkm9k76Iw OwSfYlxo90ZkcANU39uGSnM_gZuC589bE1q0xq6dq5rl.214NZqBoni6UV.0 hFu770nFIMIyNvHcNTG1gkQtS7HLuJ45US6XOpuGXTDXb4TqZOZbF5Y.123W rk_sV1AupQPJIdZYlL9de X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: stick stand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2088600610-1298558534=:5191" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-2088600610-1298558534=:5191 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. Does anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick? The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on the stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it the regular way... Antony Hequet ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro > On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most >> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced >> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or >> later if working fulltime with the gear). On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack >mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I have huge >options for getting back up and running, any office syore or staples or best buy >I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of laptops in my >office corner, none working or worth fixing. > > Andy o That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system. If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a good thing. Per --0-2088600610-1298558534=:5191 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. Does anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick? The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on the stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it the regular way...

Antony Hequet

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM
Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro

> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most
>> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced
>> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or
>> later if working fulltime with the gear).

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
> Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I have huge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or staples or best buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of laptops in my office corner, none working or worth fixing.
>
> Andy o

That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years
ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up
with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio
music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my
documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on
external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system.
If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't
have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply
restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then
opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue
could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that
system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components
and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to
put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a
good thing.

Per


--0-2088600610-1298558534=:5191-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:46:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E2718347C; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298558758; bh=ZZbN7mlEJ7zxi3yrb9CBFljvApD0PwoS1NjryEVfPZE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yN3E5fZfKx5OWLWEZTHhTYt9Dc6CR/V2xbODAF6lp6G0m/aFBwpE/Hut0e7whKwFdfgDa0UGLfPSo0t/FGgPyklBxRs5e7nXqNuoGrQbG7NI8nQTG8JvId3ODu3uXONNGqmJBz7RXfvxYEV9+JdeZ7FCcaF9XdzpEu3TPtgJazc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XvhmUUep4UVyAvGKGJobfwBqR8ihS9NmuhzkfIeQxTwtmMTlnJnTsAaLLtoMYA1S2iErcMyE7K0ARI8JiXa41OkNq6INlJ2eKxy8ogI5fmVn9EVvQz3B6yNmV7Idrm3YZOqr87hmZuW1NDLfpLElivced018s+sNXDoIWlPMHlI=; Message-ID: <520579.62576.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Aa44iVwVM1nhHIp1491KpcHgDXjN6tpCXxR2VDvFYPIL4yi p7kWRmt_sfGCYsyTw1248oiM6fZvEQRynAj65rrZNuYviFG4ICzOgJqbOVRx r8FvnFy5B7jnQKNUPaWKafPXcLE44UzCPH2XF2n370vBSON6rYp8emTyGoNO cLaCPT6Pi0663eLQLFsqrHEI_1vKYgfepmkSGpTs6xH7P67ODhrncdi3hI_. IbgnGp48BTkMaCLvUAddhKMV4nEy5N2RX9ggIQY78 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:45:58 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Gordius BLG extension To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-276124033-1298558758=:62576" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-276124033-1298558758=:62576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii another stage oriented inquiry, Iam using an LP1 looper with a Gordius BLG pedal. I need to have several spots from which I can trigger the LP1 functions : conga drum set, stick amps and pedals area, synth area... What would be a reliable and affordable way to create several satellite controllers? Antony Hequet --0-276124033-1298558758=:62576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
another stage oriented inquiry, Iam using an LP1 looper with a Gordius BLG pedal. I need to have several spots from which I can trigger the LP1 functions : conga drum set, stick amps and pedals area, synth area...

What would be a reliable and affordable way to create several satellite controllers?

Antony Hequet

--0-276124033-1298558758=:62576-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:51:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CAC18347B; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 283113.73032.bm@omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298559087; bh=q97Wjoob/Km4IcwhkEOrCTazkB2pTMF5jFlZ/cmqRYk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AmM5jIdKTDM1DQ1KyNXcJQRSEk3jgPUULOvCsXp+KWXGrlmf5Gbi/KRYeBv6PTXR4x4xuV7SKBX96Md3JZmrCSzLSACKwePbDfiJMVsfbiaDgVxLzonNaKnRKehSuWV/5xBsSPZWhbGc4Cg6GeTVXE5PryBP1RY9ap7K1/PuEYg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DhezTkjs2X2ceaMQAeW98LXW4/+4Qy6hZWAd0/NTyIQ3G6u9aV3X7tWnrwEL29Gb/HEh2SBNfgFgJ1vKpWZuti8lzv59SDri8NPnkwXUza/biLWrFKP20a+Oi8/NQzy6LcxWcC9s5e/u/6qkx4nTez7aFwUdEqGxbrmD1SkzVC4=; Message-ID: <63615.78736.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OZL3Wr0VM1nAebOyLUAtOiYmPM0YN0Wvz8noCFytcFfdLi2 ZaZVGHBnmUPuWb0sP06pKu.VcZpoqPqVxrciElZYnaqbponOQBp846NGWfk_ njy2xWsppf64m0RLD8WW9K7spJX_hJgdQSNWUVQmEPWme00yLn7CpaV9fDCV VfFprvnZBs3j2vG8mW5kHSrXSVZrgMPuFtHJbcXtGIIljSkjTrlF3hqlWzF0 _h3FDWX1qECK175U0Vl_60RjmweWTXfBSfpYw4pQBLwCymbBgRjeTnfxvq2p 1h.Ph3QSwrn9EDOHcR232 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:51:26 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1772018485-1298559086=:78736" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1772018485-1298559086=:78736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Per, how long before you are back on your feet? How are you recovering from the chemical sleep? I am a bionic man, or better a Cyborg with one foot made of carbon and titanium. When I kick you in the shin you remember it:-) ANtony ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:04:16 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: Or *just happened*, rather :-) Woke up as a re-designed man-machine >and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. > >per And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine.. remember "less is more!" M -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no/ twitter @markfrancombe --0-1772018485-1298559086=:78736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Per,

how long before you are back on your feet? How are you recovering from the chemical sleep? 

I am a bionic man, or better a Cyborg with one foot made of carbon and titanium. When I kick you in the shin you remember it:-)

ANtony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:04:16 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Or *just happened*, rather :-)  Woke up as a re-designed man-machine
and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT.

per

And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine.. remember "less is more!"

M
 

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no/
twitter @markfrancombe

--0-1772018485-1298559086=:78736-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:58:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7A95183478; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TtWZqsUxrwK6N11ckDt5yjycczJpiXg6ocJaMp32qRw=; b=jS4AF6oe9v5+950ONZb/quy/mhABDkzYWFtMQml2ImHbVMbrd6Ia77ACZhfE3gbc/I UhM3CugmbIsaxLaPNNveABo9Qmu+IqyMzkzOgLP43IXwPR7bzTeByrR97GR/M4mUtSOF 3Q401v6PUaYqb2TQSu+Auq7RxhSkQYjbn4R0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oGkfy+FYTHjC9H68YiDM1dTET8H7M9Fea3O/b3yaPV4zbecUSy8rkUPWD8W2XLmuHu hGArNEqm0798rxzufTITuyKxiRQNoZaRPmpyFN969SAoJlzShVLm32yNT4XFEpNOtvx8 nAbmlTcjvniX/ItoidqfFu7HT1SU31rMNSho0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <63615.78736.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> <63615.78736.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:58:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0WBbXD.A.9iE.aInZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Wow, you have a fake foot! Sorry about the old one and I hope it works ok for you. I could walk around right out of the chemical bed. Modern Lazaus style ;-)) I can't boast being bionic but well "man made re-design within", LOL. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > Per, > how long before you are back on your feet? How are you recovering from th= e > chemical sleep? > I am a bionic man, or better a Cyborg with one foot made of carbon and > titanium. When I kick you in the shin you remember it:-) > ANtony > ________________________________ > From: mark francombe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:04:16 PM > Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Or *just happened*, rather :-) =C2=A0Woke up as a re-designed man-machin= e >> and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. >> >> per > > And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made > this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine.. > remember "less is more!" > > M > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no/ > twitter @markfrancombe > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 14:58:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D90183480; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 619620.32853.bm@omp1041.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298559532; bh=ScP1ei+q+MZxYZPXwFe7FTvGLy1oNMMKFMBaiE6NUWw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oK39xrvTchdswE0j/IZJqxASrz5COzBG4rF2lraQAp/yrcQmpJtebBsTfk+wrvCEy/2PFWWOAXdMD9UdtnE6JKJWTqgAYlgISgJVcQQ4VBVPNHz2s04VKY2nXf2dECqU7Rsy5EGhBWUJArs9VT7JZnhAd1g0DeW7j6yzSJba7Mk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l8EcwJMIB2rjrG6aJzg0l+TCAm3EiKWkPuXuQzZ3vkSktTuYKvrQphCEPCKQv5nHOoR+UbA6W0wSD4rDSYti6VTfS8oZBj7pE3eSrBqW+0yBAukjYPG+TCfezYTnYFUfKELDLioLsNVIZzAmyekDrNMwcP4n29IIJOG5pKBe1II=; Message-ID: <436390.98802.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HGvRZAUVM1mxHNUFB7dVyW3IKTVYkKOJ8uFMiv_I1H25XSE v4vJZDEJ5c0uCX_mx6fWqJ1pRHIKOUBEzha6D561WIaZvkh4nzIS7EPDH8MK b3GRtEU3bBFeHh.I.NHFhQASoVYWPlHMwqXbBDi8zVT0H_Q9CLJNn2JOqqqr wMWZt2JIp9WEbI85HYoliQIvU.bUAhIfvyR.up1jcQcCeY1p_EiKCOrjTfbF jX8U2kl6E0fJ5dlEy7NY67ydSTriV_IjZzVuWnEcP3FScO0Qtg48UclE9nv9 FGqk.kZt9mBwiMDqG7Gwi6w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <-1507078535480005598@unknownmsgid>,<84337.57653.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,,,,<215405.91820.qm@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ,<47942.52624.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> , Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:58:51 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-424141509-1298559531=:98802" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:58:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-424141509-1298559531=:98802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii using the drugs seems like a short cut but it's short sighted. These things need to be developped with our own abilities or we will never discover our true capacities. A ________________________________ From: Gareth Whittock To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 9:46:53 AM Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal I guess that leaves you with drugs, dancing & ecstacy and the rest with Materialism, war and hate - that sounds familiar too.. P,L & E's G Sentientfx - Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/ ________________________________ From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:29:19 +0100 Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part, but not all, of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and dancing to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar? > > >Peace, love and enlightenment As long as I got the drugs, dancing and the ecstacy, you could keep the spirit world, peace, love and enlightenment... -- Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no/ twitter @markfrancombe --0-424141509-1298559531=:98802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
using the drugs seems like a short cut but it's short sighted. These things need to be developped with our own abilities or we will never discover our true capacities.

A

From: Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 9:46:53 AM
Subject: RE: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

I guess that leaves you with drugs, dancing & ecstacy and the rest with Materialism, war and hate  - that sounds familiar too..
P,L & E's
 
G

Sentientfx -  Innovative music plugins. http://sentientfx.com/


 
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:29:19 +0100
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Shamen regularly use drugs to access the spirit world. It's part, but not all, of the techniques they use. Others being hypnotic drumming and dancing  to induce states of ecstacy - sound familiar?


Peace, love and enlightenment

As long as I got the drugs, dancing and the ecstacy, you could keep the spirit world, peace, love and enlightenment...


--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no/
twitter @markfrancombe

--0-424141509-1298559531=:98802-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 15:04:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2E1E18347B; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 419474.35332.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298559882; bh=dXWmh+683EPU4lIB0t0JLY/nyXTK9lrj3PoVo8LtsgE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K4M60QIWgkBRTieucIpsjEFdKSgsv5MIlyX813o5MTw/33wq9ISJR8y74Ykudld3BHMy2fJyc+AnS3FDi6NxbgOtkWSPf9I/7nkYZBYOeFomw96WZLDyn2lDlSBROW1b4qVVanYJpoE6i3NS2+JNaP6D79+AOJ6+rgGQkgrwb5I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3TA4EZ3PCEA/RcS+eRrB6yX40vgAx8F/QC4BC7lMuGje4SDlwEAF/VuE8SvAM2dhRAGdpBEKj9IWjnSZoXhICSGoFZrCbTYgT7647xSWgX2KowlTZBNqMDPoB7SkOGPRLyOQly80fxAwmJY/CsNw3htTsTnDrGcebkgUZY+XccI=; Message-ID: <35425.89043.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SSqkYrEVM1n2mNy7CPvuhduJCwc4sVlxhtvChYPn4lkb1sZ A24L4rYV4ln35aczcY2LvsfAc6kEcv8JVM7HdxTELgUtKASNg1ci9LkM3G72 ldyyNN.WCXnTdGbwWfjNHGqYJknHHbvLGBCZahxEAupj1BjSV0BKH5LWOUSM T1FB4VCe5QQY02Mn4pkcnO3STjc3uSofLd9topqUKhieW5w8yWEUpuIZ9bHv jPN_N7HbHUhXw17gcPcqUpg3F5yZf55xwNt45UZ5Xi7QrO_8CbkcAXLk3bKJ 7qFQGv2lTng68twL2hc8E X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> <63615.78736.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:04:41 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1646094770-1298559881=:89043" Resent-Message-ID: <8nNFBC.A.a1E.MOnZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:04:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-1646094770-1298559881=:89043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii if you are walking and have taken a first piss then you are fine. I have been running around with artificial limb for 35 years: I can walk miles, run, practice martial arts, dance like a maniac... Hope you are out of the hospital fast unless you have a nice nurse smiling at you:-) Antony ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:58:33 PM Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal Wow, you have a fake foot! Sorry about the old one and I hope it works ok for you. I could walk around right out of the chemical bed. Modern Lazaus style ;-)) I can't boast being bionic but well "man made re-design within", LOL. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > Per, > how long before you are back on your feet? How are you recovering from the > chemical sleep? > I am a bionic man, or better a Cyborg with one foot made of carbon and > titanium. When I kick you in the shin you remember it:-) > ANtony > ________________________________ > From: mark francombe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:04:16 PM > Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Or *just happened*, rather :-) Woke up as a re-designed man-machine >> and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. >> >> per > > And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made > this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine.. > remember "less is more!" > > M > > -- > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no/ > twitter @markfrancombe > > --0-1646094770-1298559881=:89043 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
if you are walking and have taken a first piss then you are fine.
I have been running around with artificial limb for 35 years: I can walk miles, run, practice martial arts, dance like a maniac...
Hope you are out of the hospital fast unless you have a nice nurse smiling at you:-)

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:58:33 PM
Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal

Wow, you have a fake foot! Sorry about the old one and I hope it works
ok for you. I could walk around right out of the chemical bed. Modern
Lazaus style ;-))  I can't boast being bionic but well "man made
re-design within", LOL.


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM,  <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Per,
> how long before you are back on your feet? How are you recovering from the
> chemical sleep?
> I am a bionic man, or better a Cyborg with one foot made of carbon and
> titanium. When I kick you in the shin you remember it:-)
> ANtony
> ________________________________
> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:04:16 PM
> Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Or *just happened*, rather :-)  Woke up as a re-designed man-machine
>> and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT.
>>
>> per
>
> And thus the evolution of man continued, someday, all people will be made
> this way, better, faster, cleverer and with one foot less intestine..
> remember "less is more!"
>
> M
>
> --
> Mark Francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no/
> twitter @markfrancombe
>
>


--0-1646094770-1298559881=:89043-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 15:30:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DA00183483; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com><5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid><0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net><04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:30:28 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:30:36 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a > souped up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease of > operation blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. Why > not spend half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? >That was at the very start of this thread. Someone wants the Apple hardware >but has most his software for Windows. Hardware-wise it might be just the >same components inside the boxes but what Mac users appreciate is that >Apple boxes are more standardized and have passed a quality control an the >manufacturing process. Where did you hear that PC components lacked Quality Assurance, and didn't adhere to standards? This isn't true. > From this follows that if you are working with the box you may suffer less > down-time if a Mac breaks down compared if a Windows only box goes > belly-up. When a Mac breaks down it's an appointment with an Apple Technician or repair firm. When a PC breaks down one is allowed to fix it in far less time, themselves. > For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most powerful > machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced with minimal > down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or later if working > fulltime with the gear). Again unless one is just going to go out and suffer the expense of buying another Apple machine that is. When was the last time anyone was allowed to buy an internal part for a Mac and install it themselves? If ever? Sorry, had to answer this Apple rubbish here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 15:33:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85EC3183493; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: stick stand Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:33:39 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBD438.3594EA80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:33:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBD438.3594EA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While the following lists itself as a stand for the Stick, it=E2=80=99s = not the only stand that can perform this task. http://www.stick.com/accessories/stand/ Hercules makes a stand that has adjustable supports on the bottom to = accommodate thin-profile instruments, like the Stick, or for that matter = the Steinbergers. http://www.herculesstands.com/guitars/guitarstands.html Either way it should be what you want. From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: stick stand I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. = Does anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS = stick? The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either = play it on the stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I = need to play it the regular way... Antony Hequet -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro > On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most >> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced >> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or >> later if working fulltime with the gear). On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens = wrote: > Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack = mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I = have huge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or = staples or best buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, = unlike the pile of laptops in my office corner, none working or worth = fixing. > > Andy o That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system. If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a good thing. Per ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CBD438.3594EA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While the following lists itself as a stand for the Stick, = it=E2=80=99s not the=20 only stand that can perform this task.
 
Hercules makes a stand that has adjustable supports on the bottom = to=20 accommodate thin-profile instruments, like the Stick, or for that matter = the=20 Steinbergers.
 
Either way it should be what you want.
 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: stick stand
 
I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set = up.=20 Does anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS = stick?=20 The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on = the=20 stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it = the=20 regular way...
 
Antony Hequet
 
From: Per Boysen=20 <perboysen@gmail.com>
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 = 3:26:57=20 PM
Subject: Re: ADK = Pro Audio=20 PC VS MacBook Pro

> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per = Boysen"=20 <perboysen@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
>
>> For a pro user the highest priority might not = be to=20 get the most
>> powerful machine but rather the most stable one = that=20 may be replaced
>> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan = (and it=20 will, sooner or
>> later if working fulltime with the = gear).

On=20 Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>=20 wrote:
> Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind = of PC in=20 rack mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then = I have=20 huge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or = staples or=20 best buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile = of=20 laptops in my office corner, none working or worth = fixing.
>
> Andy=20 o

That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some=20 years
ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set = them=20 up
with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the=20 studio
music applications and one for email, office work etc. All=20 my
documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better = on
external drives so that I could access the work docs form any=20 system.
If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues = I=20 didn't
have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I=20 simply
restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition = and=20 then
opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the=20 issue
could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked=20 that
system and it was great fun to research the best music pc=20 components
and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes = I tend=20 to
put a little more time into actual musical activities and that = also=20 a
good thing.

Per

 

What????????  And to = think that I was just about to send you my entire  Stadium Rock = record collection because I thought you wanted it = Andy!!!!!
 Its all there the Styx, the Journey, the = Foreigner,  the REO Speedwagon, and of course the Billy Squier. I = was going to send you a bunch of bic lighters as well so you and Peta = could stand in front of the stereo, flick your bics and pump your fists. =  Now I feel = empty........
Bill
= = --Apple-Mail-1-281838597-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:25:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF54D183487; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kc69LcfRtv2A3OeZ+bkVYR4PxBV+oCWksEnWqWPmfaw=; b=Iy7pn1v36fcurvFq/tQxa18a26i2InPSU3ryS0kSlSDNbIdLhCmOMfgV/LQYtb44IC It0LxAuCutNtV7Oj7qAdDS2QN14krOBMBXR90qmY3NSBI6TMe4ZAkbi7H5vgQUvzlfMV xCaqsz9p08tIe1kyrTQQ844+yD2wU5kjmLPqU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q5968PKGkF4tGr53MBADjCkNRNJ3ZoMODgS3cTqGhVpalQKWoqvE8IGTfbO4GXQEvX fEyMnTXY6tv/ip06VywufJFWXKkHMjBHJ8E5ZjwrcnAqeHjO3YTLii7Zdp1BBsYpegCu +Pyb3rI34hZX5Cy0+8KDhr/sI6p7wL89EQcS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6EB635AE-18E1-4452-8D93-588CAEDA6B22@baymoon.com> References: <6EB635AE-18E1-4452-8D93-588CAEDA6B22@baymoon.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:25:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:25:11 +0000 (UTC) L.O.L. p On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:15 PM, William Walker wr= ote: > andy ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock. > What???????? =C2=A0And to think that I was just about to send you my enti= re > =C2=A0Stadium Rock record collection because I thought you wanted it Andy= !!!!! > =C2=A0Its all there the Styx, the Journey, the Foreigner, =C2=A0the REO S= peedwagon, > and of course the Billy Squier. I was going to send you a bunch of bic > lighters as well so you and Peta could stand in front of the stereo, flic= k > your bics and pump your fists. =C2=A0Now I feel empty........ > Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:30:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A8E9183491; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: stick stand References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-282715428"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:29:36 -0500 Thread-Topic: stick stand Thread-Index: AcvUQBHYLkJgWwk6RymCfYqeyPu/7w== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 16:30:55.0269 (UTC) FILETIME=[359D5550:01CBD440] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:30:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-282715428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gracie stands which mr bill w just turned me on to.=20 Andy o On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:42 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > I am going to be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. Do= es anyone have a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick?= The idea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on th= e stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it th= e regular way... >=20 > Antony Hequet >=20 > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM > Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro >=20 > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" wrote: > > > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most > >> powerful machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced > >> with minimal down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or > >> later if working fulltime with the gear). >=20 > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens wrote:= > > Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack m= ountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I have hu= ge options for getting back up and running, any office syore or staples or b= est buy I can replace any piece in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of la= ptops in my office corner, none working or worth fixing. > > > > Andy o >=20 > That's great for those who can afford the time to do it. Some years > ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up > with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical for the studio > music applications and one for email, office work etc. All my > documents, working files, were saved in other partitions or better on > external drives so that I could access the work docs form any system. > If I was recording a client and got struck by computer issues I didn't > have to loose time by solving the issue on the spot, I simply > restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup partition and then > opened the song projekt from the external drive. Solving the issue > could be dealt with later on when the client had left. I liked that > system and it was great fun to research the best music pc components > and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to > put a little more time into actual musical activities and that also a > good thing. >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-1-282715428 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHkgYmdjb2xvcj0iI0ZGRkZGRiI+PGRpdj5HcmFjaWUgc3RhbmRzIHdoaWNoIG1y IGJpbGwgdyBqdXN0IHR1cm5lZCBtZSBvbiB0by4mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48 ZGl2PkFuZHkgbzxicj48YnI+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+T24gRmViIDI0 LCAyMDExLCBhdCA5OjQyIEFNLCAiPGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmFudG9ueWhlcXVldEB5YWhvby5j b20iPmFudG9ueWhlcXVldEB5YWhvby5jb208L2E+IiAmbHQ7PGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOmFudG9u eWhlcXVldEB5YWhvby5jb20iPmFudG9ueWhlcXVldEB5YWhvby5jb208L2E+Jmd0OyB3cm90ZTo8 YnI+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PC9kaXY+PGJsb2NrcXVvdGUgdHlwZT0iY2l0ZSI+PGRpdj48ZGl2 IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbCwgaGVsdmV0aWNhLCBzYW5zLXNlcmlmO2ZvbnQtc2l6 ZToxNHB0Ij48ZGl2PkkgYW0gZ29pbmcgdG8gYmUgb24gc3RhZ2UgYWdhaW4gc29vbiBhbmQgSSBu 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<0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <520579.62576.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <520579.62576.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61A9BF1B-C80D-4F08-AA17-D994C03A0CE7@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:32:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: Gordius BLG extension Thread-Index: AcvUQJ3PdCFDLy0lSLqMLUdd65S2yw== To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 16:33:59.0279 (UTC) FILETIME=[A34B07F0:01CBD440] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Cheapest most reliable I've found is midi buddy pedals, work great with my l= p1. Like $100 or so new.=20 Andy o On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:46 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > What would be a reliable and affordable way to create several satellite co= ntrollers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:40:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8082318349C; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0lc5GTKz7E+YPw2oVezapSfAahHgzJjtHscGSwzdIqs=; b=reM/PBL61Bko6GBsYFttahWNhCKnxnQJNFQv4ARcO1yqzwp6sUcsY1pCM4Qh8xEz/R Lvgb+PQk4goesM8bM0dsRZsiLqrbjhD5FI/RSIZOBeMA199yR36YYzKn8DRAaL6kct8N mMddgQRkO3EcWqJ5o9D3I0kr/qTSYs66mHI1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DytkfzKcGSb+aDBm4ZjzaplDjK9ZMIypTplZsTkLf6fo0oMpKiaGHXiEm0/u8SXGOn V9LQsJRtgiO7xpSek93/iKGUkGtFEn15iVD+FDnsbZN955au4ZCpB9xjEhFk5NgWAP7t iD4PFOPMdc+Jg7aJq7tLikOPvvqy5gX0cIJE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:40:11 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:40:12 +0000 (UTC) You are talking about you, Stephen. Nothing of what I said is about you. We all have to chose the tools that best helps us to be productive. Everything I've said applies to how I function and to the working situation I mostly find myself in. That's it. Per On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:05 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote= : >> >> Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a >> souped up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease = of >> operation blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. W= hy >> not spend half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? > >> That was at the very start of this thread. Someone wants the Apple >> hardware but has most his software for Windows. Hardware-wise it might b= e >> just the same components inside the boxes but what Mac users appreciate = is >> that Apple boxes are more standardized and have passed a quality control= an >> the manufacturing process. > > Where did you hear that PC components lacked Quality Assurance, and didn'= t > adhere to standards? Nowhere at all. I never said I heard that. All my choices are based on long experience with using many kinds of PCs running Windows, Mac and Linux. > This isn't true. I think it isn't true that it isn't true. >> From this follows that if you are working with the box you may suffer le= ss >> down-time if a Mac breaks down compared if a Windows only box goes belly= -up. > When a Mac breaks down it's an appointment with an Apple Technician or > repair firm. =C2=A0When a PC breaks down one is allowed to fix it in far = less > time, themselves. > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most powerfu= l >> machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced with minimal >> down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or later if working >> fulltime with the gear). > > Again unless one is just going to go out and suffer the expense of buying > another Apple machine that is. =C2=A0When was the last time anyone was al= lowed to > buy an internal part for a Mac and install it themselves? =C2=A0If ever? > > Sorry, had to answer this Apple rubbish here. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D783183484; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 581185102/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0CALsbZk1YbRDV/2dsb2JhbAAMmArNIoVgBI9N X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,219,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="581185102" Message-ID: <4D668D25.1080604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:53:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <6EB635AE-18E1-4452-8D93-588CAEDA6B22@baymoon.com> In-Reply-To: <6EB635AE-18E1-4452-8D93-588CAEDA6B22@baymoon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:53:52 +0000 (UTC) you still want my Christian Rock collection though? William Walker wrote: > *andy ..and the same goes for Stadium Rock.* > * > * > *What???????? And to think that I was just about to send you my entire > Stadium Rock record collection because I thought you wanted it Andy!!!!!* > * Its all there the Styx, the Journey, the Foreigner, the REO > Speedwagon, and of course the Billy Squier. I was going to send you a > bunch of bic lighters as well so you and Peta could stand in front of > the stereo, flick your bics and pump your fists. Now I feel empty........* > *Bill* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 16:56:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9136183485; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5362027F3E2A4B2AB975370AA7B4C625@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com><5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid><0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net><04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:56:49 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro You are talking about you, Stephen. Nothing of what I said is about you. We all have to chose the tools that best helps us to be productive. Everything I've said applies to how I function and to the working situation I mostly find myself in. That's it. Per On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:05 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Andy Owens wrote: >> >> Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a >> souped up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease >> of >> operation blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. >> Why >> not spend half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? > >> That was at the very start of this thread. Someone wants the Apple >> hardware but has most his software for Windows. Hardware-wise it might be >> just the same components inside the boxes but what Mac users appreciate >> is >> that Apple boxes are more standardized and have passed a quality control >> an >> the manufacturing process. > > Where did you hear that PC components lacked Quality Assurance, and didn't > adhere to standards? Nowhere at all. I never said I heard that. All my choices are based on long experience with using many kinds of PCs running Windows, Mac and Linux. > This isn't true. I think it isn't true that it isn't true. >> From this follows that if you are working with the box you may suffer >> less >> down-time if a Mac breaks down compared if a Windows only box goes >> belly-up. > When a Mac breaks down it's an appointment with an Apple Technician or > repair firm. When a PC breaks down one is allowed to fix it in far less > time, themselves. > >> For a pro user the highest priority might not be to get the most powerful >> machine but rather the most stable one that may be replaced with minimal >> down-time of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or later if working >> fulltime with the gear). > > Again unless one is just going to go out and suffer the expense of buying > another Apple machine that is. When was the last time anyone was allowed > to > buy an internal part for a Mac and install it themselves? If ever? > > Sorry, had to answer this Apple rubbish here. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 17:03:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E8C518348F; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3744 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:03:14 UTC From: Michael Tyson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:00:42 +0000 Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi! I'm the developer of an iPhone (and soon to be iPad) looper app called = Loopy (loopyapp.com), and working on a rather spectacular overhaul for = version 2. The app features 6 tracks which can all be overdubbed, and = merged with each other, and features loop importing, live tempo scaling = and 'track twisting' to offset tracks (I just implemented this this = morning - http://youtu.be/Lys6fs01GAw), a built-in drum sequencer and = MIDI controller support (e.g. foot pedals) for the iPad version. So, with introductions out of the way, I was hoping I might get some = opinions by some folks with looping experience, on some interface = questions (maybe in return I can offer some free copies to interested = parties?). My aim is to make the app accessible to beginners, but to give power = users more control, via gestures. Of course, though, the gestures have = to be easy to make when you're slinging a guitar around in one hand, = etc. So a quick overview of the app: The basic unit in Loopy 2 is the track, = a circular spinning platter (you can see a screenshot of it at = loopyapp.com). It's pretty much what you'd expect - tap to record, tap = to punch out, and it'll start looping. Tap to mute/unmute. Tap the = center part to punch in/punch out, and it'll overdub (I'm considering = changing this interaction, so it doesn't get in the way of the = mute/unmute function - It's still a bit up in the air). =20 There's other stuff it does (like drag to another track to merge), but = that's the main interaction. This is where I'd love some opinions on some interaction ideas I'm = working on: I'm planning support for count-in, as well as auto-punch = out on the next full loop. Currently, you punch in and punch out (toggle), by tapping the center of = a track. As loopers, what do you think is a reasonable approach to begin = count-in, and specify an auto-end length? One option I'm considering is tapping with 2 fingers, anywhere on the = track, to come in at the start of the next loop. =46rom there, there are two options: Either auto-punch out at the end of = the loop (1 loop cycle), or just keep on overdubbing until tapped to = finish. Is one better than another? I'm thinking about being able to specify how long you want to record = for, as well, maybe via successive taps - so, for example, if one tap = could start at the next loop, and keep recording until you tap to stop, = then *two* taps tells the app to come in at the next loop, and then = record for one loop. If you tap 3 times, then that means come in at the = next loop, then record for *two* loops, and so on. What do you think? Does that work? Is it viable, in a performance = environment? Many thanks! Michael A Tasty Pixel= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 17:44:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5978B18349F; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yDOABOV4AiZZp/OezWR6bXev0A8nO6jIGo/inoWJ/RA=; b=H55pkjtXw4mvNkVgK5ymCNdk4IkkXOr6rQDtk7b3776vtm2xJWbzupnL4HVAhq+P5P mnBDcDVLOGLywWXYFECTXwwM/S2E9abtTQCss4B2FQzCMS9YkYWxpR5cFdVZf26MnDrk CLX5CrP+QdTJDwZyZVuc4vT892qJDX9T58ub4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ajEbuWerdCzOuVy+8U7B8fSozWb1B2opUTpd8lpnlzhG+wZJnvSC4HTYlWxLgL/Zqq /nf+4vUqqIWH8WLTpn9cnLEGPaNNqT5zIpH1s9oKK5r6MGs39obSTBaqlywSuB0gT8Tf 1pIgYIJnDeBSQaHaE99KZtFwxOsE+tf54btnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:44:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0QAFXC.A.KHD.FkpZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:44:37 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Michael Tyson wr= ote: > This is where I'd love some opinions on some interaction ideas I'm workin= g on: =C2=A0I'm planning support for count-in, as well as auto-punch out on= the next full loop. If I understand your concept of "count-in" it is equal to what Ableton Live and the pioneering looper EDP calls Quantization? I.e. quantization of the execution of a command, not quantization of audio playback. > Currently, you punch in and punch out (toggle), by tapping the center of = a track. > > As loopers, what do you think is a reasonable approach to begin count-in,= and specify an auto-end length? I'd prefer a different general approach; Not specifying an auto-end length for the first loop you create, but rather setting the loop point on the fly by the second tap. > One option I'm considering is tapping with 2 fingers, anywhere on the tra= ck, to come in at the start of the next loop. > That's great idea! > From there, there are two options: Either auto-punch out at the end of th= e loop (1 loop cycle), or just keep on overdubbing until tapped to finish. = =C2=A0Is one better than another? Both are common and useful looping actions. If I had to chose one of them I would definitely chose "keep on overdubbing until tapped to finish". The result of "auto-punch out at the end" can be reached anyway by tapping any time before the loop point. The situation I can imagine where "auto-punch out at the end " would be almost "a must" is when working with extremely short loop length to achieve a glitchy sounding texture. > I'm thinking about being able to specify how long you want to record for,= as well, maybe via successive taps - so, for example, if one tap could sta= rt at the next loop, and keep recording until you tap to stop, then *two* t= aps tells the app to come in at the next loop, and then record for one loop= . =C2=A0If you tap 3 times, then that means come in at the next loop, then = record for *two* loops, and so on. > > What do you think? =C2=A0Does that work? =C2=A0Is it viable, in a perform= ance environment? To me it sounds too complicated. I would prefer simply setting loop length on the fly as you close the first loop by setting its loop point - and have Loopy adapt to the set loop length for the rest of the session. Any chance for additional features like "instantly multiply/divide loop length" by a factor of 2 o 3? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 17:46:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FB331834A9; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1889 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:46:35 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.1 X-EN-IMPSID: BtEu1g00B01P85W0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:14:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead In-Reply-To: References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:46:36 +0000 (UTC) At 2011/02/24 04:40 AM, mark francombe wrote: >NO!! I LOVE Indie pop... (not sure if it being=20 >called pop or rock helps at all?) Im not a huge=20 >fan of the somewhat dreary moany whiny indie=20 >music, but I love the noisy, messy distorted=20 >happy sounds of 80=B4s indie. Bands like Lush,=20 >Wedding Present, My Bloody Valentine, Blur,=20 >Moonshake, Silver fish (maybe more grunge?)=20 >Ride, Primal Scream,The Smiths, Jesus and Mary=20 >Chain, Does anyone remember the very wonderful Fire Engines? Great list - never thought of most of them as=20 indie pop but I guess that makes sense. >Im realizing now that Ive quoted mostly (or all)=20 >English Indie bands, and when I think about how=20 >it sounded in the US, (REM, Pixies) was never really "indie" sounding to= me... Interesting that REM and Pixies make your list of=20 US indie bands. I've been making my way through=20 this book "Our Band Could Be Your Life: Scenes=20 from the American Indie Undergound 1981-1991" http://www.amazon.com/Our-Band-Could-Your-Life/dp/0316787531/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie= =3DUTF8&qid=3D1298566879&sr=3D8-1 These are the bands covered: Mission of Burma The Minutemen Black Flag Husker Du Minor Threat Replacements Butthole Surfers Sonic Youth Big Black Fugazi Mudhoney Beat Happening Dinosaur Jr >Pixies were cool, but were they "indie"? I dont=20 >think so, they had more influences from US Hardcore etc... True - Pixies were influenced by many in the list above. sean From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 17:49:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1BF1834B3; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: RE: stick stand Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:49:50 -0800 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30504@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: stick stand Thread-Index: AcvUOsQDAHp45hMoSQm/vek7vZpKwgADfLeg References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com><5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid><0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net><04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com><509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2011 17:49:50.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BD128B0:01CBD44B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:49:51 +0000 (UTC) U3RhbmRzIHRvIGhvbGQgdGhlIGd1aXRhciBvciB3aGF0ZXZlciB3aGlsZSB5b3UgcGxheSBpdCwg S2VsbGVyIHN0eWxl4oCmLg0KDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmdyYWNpZXN0YW5kcy5uZXQvcHJvZHVjdHMu aHRtbA0KDQpBbmR5IG8NCg== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:08:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B88818349C; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SSm5yoJUUPGdgY4IahM4WWeF1Xww0vrr1MSTSo21EaA=; b=ZT0RnOWNK9FbhS/fotbU4AhvB7KUxNMHfDXP4cwiXFfeQbtKeHlY5dSqKTIMDleFz5 NX6x/IOI6OvpOog+FJH5912sLlFRQI5IVP3hvZ4FCQ1Id/PokApvXY0t7T/cujcrcQSM pvKNDNrtnj4Nn3UhwhaaUEAmrAw0OJJmUwv7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BPRbr9xM5wksY0OBDEEXan7geJkkhBSDLdsyAfCj41Zhew6MtaxKQHrxsZCuqf1EvJ KX8ERUhcjUJMpnn6hnh4bKFSgAuvWvcvG6soZc6WedtyziGOCLz1woBsoV1t21ZiPGMI RBv8FTaqaL+Y5sg8UA4bmP5dtJzapqd0SnkcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:08:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Sean Echevarria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > Primal Scream,The Smiths, Jesus and Mary Chain, Does anyone remember the > very wonderful Fire Engines? No, but what an awesome band name! But as a matter of fact I played a live looping impro gig in 1987 (!) at the same festival where Bobby Gillespie bashed the skins in Jesus and Mary Chain. They sounded great! Some other indie bands I like in the eighties, except for the ones you mentioned, are Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and Kowalski! Speaking about the great producer Conny Plank i'd like to flash Hunters And Collectors as well. Especially their early recordings. No need mentioning Cabaret Voltaire I guess... ;-))) Oh, and the first stuff put out by Sisters of Mercy was.... sorry; must stop here - the list of great 80's indies never end... mhmpf..----> Sonic Youth!! HELMETTTTTTT!!!!!! Woa, when I saw Helmet live their bass player wore his bass guitar knee level low and attacked every down beat note by sliding the axe to his right and letting it bounce on the head. THAT sounded so awesome you never bothered whether the bass was in tune or not. The man looked like an orangutang with a jazzbass. Woopsy - out of here! p From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:18:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B72131834A0; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:18:34 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Per! > If I understand your concept of "count-in" it is equal to what Ableton > Live and the pioneering looper EDP calls Quantization? I.e. > quantization of the execution of a command, not quantization of audio > playback. That's it, yep! >> As loopers, what do you think is a reasonable approach to begin = count-in, and specify an auto-end length? >=20 > I'd prefer a different general approach; Not specifying an auto-end > length for the first loop you create, but rather setting the loop > point on the fly by the second tap. >=20 > Any chance for additional features like "instantly multiply/divide > loop length" by a factor of 2 o 3? Ah, that's my mistake, I forgot to mention some basics - there's so much = in my head at the moment, it's hard to figure out what needs to be = mentioned =3D) The main detail I missed was that tracks don't all have to be the same = length - they're quantized (integer multiples, or power-of-two = fractions) against the master loop length, which is set by the initial = recording. Put another way, the first recording sets the master loop length (and if = you set the BPM beforehand, that loop length will be 'quantized' to = multiples of bars at that BPM). Subsequent recordings on new tracks = will be quantized to integer multiples of that original loop length = (including 3, 5, etc), or power-of-two fractions (1/2, 1/4, 1/8, etc). = So, you set up the main loop length with the first recording, but then = after that, subsequent recordings are automatically quantised to = whatever's closest. So, a diagram of an example: Main loop length, set with 1st recording:=20 [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] Next recording on another track (Quantized to 2 * main loop length) [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] New recording on a third track (Quantized to 1/2 main loop length) [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] Overdub recording on third track - Kept at same length [=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D] The "count in" (or command quantization) feature would thus link the = punch in time to the start of the next "master" loop. The auto = punch-out would link the punch out to the end of the following master = loop - the alternative is that the recording just keeps on going until = you stop it manually, at which point the loop length will be quantised = to however many multiples of the master loop you recorded for. The exception is if you're overdubbing onto an existing track, of = course, in which case the recording will wrap to the track's length. Forgive the floundering about with the language - I'm quite new to the = looping world, and my terminology is no doubt entirely wrong =3D) >=20 >=20 >> One option I'm considering is tapping with 2 fingers, anywhere on the = track, to come in at the start of the next loop. >>=20 >=20 > That's great idea! >=20 >> =46rom there, there are two options: Either auto-punch out at the end = of the loop (1 loop cycle), or just keep on overdubbing until tapped to = finish. Is one better than another? >=20 > Both are common and useful looping actions. If I had to chose one of > them I would definitely chose "keep on overdubbing until tapped to > finish". The result of "auto-punch out at the end" can be reached > anyway by tapping any time before the loop point. >=20 > The situation I can imagine where "auto-punch out at the end " would > be almost "a must" is when working with extremely short loop length to > achieve a glitchy sounding texture. Excellent, that's good to know - that's the default, then. >=20 >> I'm thinking about being able to specify how long you want to record = for, as well, maybe via successive taps - so, for example, if one tap = could start at the next loop, and keep recording until you tap to stop, = then *two* taps tells the app to come in at the next loop, and then = record for one loop. If you tap 3 times, then that means come in at the = next loop, then record for *two* loops, and so on. >>=20 >> What do you think? Does that work? Is it viable, in a performance = environment? >=20 > To me it sounds too complicated. I would prefer simply setting loop > length on the fly as you close the first loop by setting its loop > point - and have Loopy adapt to the set loop length for the rest of > the session. >=20 I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this again in light of the = extra description of how loops are setup (and the fact that loops can be = different lengths to each other). I love the simplicity of having just = one loop length for the auto punch-out - so that it works like a = simpler, single-loop-length looper - but I'd really like to find a = sensible way to provide advanced users with the ability to set up = lengths that are multiples of the master for the auto punch-out, if it's = feasible. Thanks again, it's great to have some new eyes on this stuff =3D) Michael= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:36:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7601834A4; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=kHLZ36Mu0z9V1dmfNxYqVGfv3HxcalshqH0szLsNrNU=; b=aGvA+GV5QPxR1x382LESe4I2M/DT3VowNr8SiUcz+jwHPS9a2s9l/dS2wmDD/fQD42 /5yNmDU0ub+Q/fi5XVuV0PebgoRYD1Od3g2bUV/jiIRFfpmd+IEim1okgCdHHDgdou01 1AQhOyK3bpdLRFHUvYDwSWBOnb3Zcpsj8V/rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=lGG20ZFYi5DWcx7DGWSzkEE3nvqKw/Q8CZXNv1LVD9/iRhH0G6LrIPTwfStpmgwXFT vSjQ2nF885qwxIUmqgNl1FfPSWEd/NoGwwBEjBYGBdX/TIOiB8YFJM1ddG63FSr3BBC7 Kv0sjKXVE9y5A/n1brQtX3PybCnlC4BRTYYDY= References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:35:30 +0100 Message-ID: <-8318303434628751459@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 24 Feb 2011, at 18:46, Sean Echevarria wrote: > These are the bands covered: > Mission of Burma > The Minutemen > Black Flag > Husker Du > Minor Threat > Replacements > Butthole Surfers > Sonic Youth > Big Black > Fugazi > Mudhoney > Beat Happening > Dinosaur Jr Another great list!!! I love the butthole surfers... But you see US bands are connected by an attitude, wheras in the UK you could actually put your finger on a "sound". The singalong melodies, the wall of sound, various takes on that, but all connected... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:42:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375CF1834AC; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z7eDydDeXcrfaA5BQRf/Xd7E388VQ1olYd+jdabJMnU=; b=VTM8ckwzHa1mBCXvZuB1StWduQULhspO7MzH8v61dzevyCevi0GMBDK0KtK0vGklRs 1X+OEcyWI3xjaeUMCBYOOheTWUK0NUF0g9yrjS0BriOpgMFZMbTnTX78GXSBnX6WSHeM ER8oFGUgCktC8yy18hBGxfofZ74Cj7YOOlzD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bA0T9wV2sxuOboAqkgdiySwfKmHrF30tuYfKoKGAiIWzy6mH7Ni83+lShno/suz8HZ bTHxa3DfKrGgxNu0aFBef5PtEa3ga+rdMwLftBfKSF8YQ3B5sZ5M6PDJV3wPa2h5O7Fe LRhNp//zynhytkQlaFkBMo2HLNiyqtWG3jThs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:38:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <_f0DYD.A.MXF.BaqZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:42:09 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > I'd really like to find a sensible way to provide advanced users with the ability to set up lengths that are multiples of the master for the auto punch-out, if it's feasible. > Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:46:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEB851834B6; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VIEYCvQen1zoBQsC3HSlgEtzG5IThTuQo0p7oOWzy7I=; b=lPpjvi5AINJhAiftUkpR/J9wxMwVh0U14G1Y38BFbdv/Zl7Ct4WXjWe6vQNeNOK8VO /QruUSBcJMqQ2hQb06Tz+m9tVaSVuAoq8pdN8uxWpNkrvbFht/7un/Lrq/FezoI6d9yu nI0qjdGXzgeuBKiXuSVtkmZBvFW7ReCDygpzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qoreFmi9c+1NhpWh4l30WC+JIi2G+kfNTLPuqUYS0HswnIqesID/7/+dLvlKtEBu9+ LLhEsPoAjWMvlvhuHgOq75FMY9nN62X1tSnPE7k/JQdQpewZiVTWOBzzuySBnwmlnprj 18Ek5UJUbOQ2h7KNBRN7IO0x020ZymvMQQ3SU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <-8318303434628751459@unknownmsgid> References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <-8318303434628751459@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:41:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <1ADU0.A.UjF.ReqZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:46:41 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, mark francombe wrote: > But you see US > bands are connected by an attitude, wheras in the UK you could > actually put your finger on a "sound". The singalong melodies, the > wall of sound, various takes on that, but all connected... Outstanding witty analyse. Mayflower killed pop. Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:49:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719C51834A8; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 584910475/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.16.213/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.16.213 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0CACg3Zk1YbRDV/2dsb2JhbAAMmBHNLYVgBI9N X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,219,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="584910475" Message-ID: <4D66A849.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:49:45 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Echoplex Patch - How Does Memory Works ? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:49:40 +0000 (UTC) boost wrote: > what we need is info of how the memory works in the echoplex. That's a very big question ;-) > > there are some info in the user's guide in the > overdub-feedback-undo-multiply sections, but i'm sure you guys have been > talking about that a lot of times !!! > it seems that the echoplex write memory "for the future" > after a rec or a multiply , it seems to me that the echoplex is writing > another cycle in the memory after the rec-end or mult-end. No, it never writes more than one sample at a time as the audio sample comes in. That's a limitation of the technology. (well,it's a block of 64 samples actually, but it's safe to ignore that for your purposes) The EDP loops each have a certain amount of memory available. The active loop works it's way through the whole of that memory, leaving a history that can be accessed with Undo. How Multiply works depends on how the EDP parameters are set. > i'd be happy if someone could bring some more information about that. > sorry for my english, i's difficult for me to talk about > technical-abstract stuff with this language :) If you're really specific about what you need to know for syncing the video I may be able to help. all the best andy butler > thanks in advance > boost > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 18:57:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC87183484; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:57:03 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:57:08 +0000 (UTC) You got it =) > Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only > Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to > setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 19:28:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACBD318349C; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 297594108/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnECANM/Zk0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmBHABI0qhWAEjByDMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,219,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="297594108" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:28:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: 'nother edp video Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D66B155.16711.251FBA1@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110224-0, 24/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Have uploaded another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGJ1SRgJLY covering quantised replace. Any ideas for what to cover next? I'm still just scratching the surface... All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 19:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 013AE1834A8; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 270978.73987.bm@omp1002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298575907; bh=nHC+hFU1YCbb6t8r/D03AKtVdHmMbZ7X4M+NQde1Q2U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=20nWh5LJsqSIOBLgrnxPyU1lDI5HXjAgg4q4khZSDPrzQcz5bY7BNVDf86th4LY4b8HEbxXN99Q9F4XBzVXK9GVjWpwFF191DQrO5yJYZeHq33eCPu8wtEzZ8hjJE1KrA54vfcovbwFwtZIBrnvoz33n29LSIXnxzChh26vx5W4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HYoN/mBvXrHmLYn7+8sleBqKAIsdPViZoV8sjNZbWbpWYOJHA6jzrELuaKq3JtdM6Hs4wY8WutQBI6mwo9z+/Y3bi/o0Y131yE21mSfIEmLsov0vWDY+yCtvYypsapOsC+qQ6os564MWcK2aHBrvR/cJYptQxvc0YAEUnJ0uF9I=; Message-ID: <166493.76269.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QfRJ9qIVM1nMbUjcfAX8DBd6pPA73EiYFA4mEa4SG2NB48g IpYjsQpVSyt8I8oiv7uaKdKkm_4Dseh2AcH0c2CNIgRFzlqDGa9AkBhMipka Ji.MGvk2_.Om9iFrDHKFBATddiJQLOWRzG_e2wfc5lOlMe1qPYcNI0uYV8MB Gz7ZGfHvcn.FVpH8WbG1tOboh4O9.G_kOvAXru9BibuvtCz8QWgAsGlmNTUb N3V6FTkMLagLjxKrMQ2C9eAom6aaTmHcp3QKD0lt9yqiitaJRBy_27R.64UE PTo0niHjwwEWw X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com><5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid><0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net><04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com><509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30504@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:31:46 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: stick stand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07C30504@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1272471784-1298575906=:76269" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:32:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-1272471784-1298575906=:76269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, thanks Andy.=0A=0AA=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom= : Andy Owens =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com=0ASent: Thu, February 24, 2011 6:49:50 PM=0ASubject: RE: stick stand=0A= =0AStands to hold the guitar or whatever while you play it, Keller style=E2= =80=A6.=0A=0Ahttp://www.graciestands.net/products.html =0A=0AAndy o=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-1272471784-1298575906=:76269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=0A=0A --0-1272471784-1298575906=:76269-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 19:47:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0DCC183493; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 445388785/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnECAPtEZk0+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAMmBDNLYVgBIwcgzE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,220,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="445388785" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:47:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 'nother edp video Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4D66B5BA.21983.2632510@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110224-0, 24/02/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:47:49 +0000 (UTC) On 24 Feb 2011 at 20:41, mark francombe wrote: > I guess I have to hook up the Red Sound Federation again... one of the best EDP mangling/synching/stereo-izing boxes I own... Hell yes, I love it to death. I recently connected it to the EDP via midi and bingo! instant sync! May make a vid of the RedFed, but will have to record stereo onto the PC for maximum effect ;) All the best, Nick Robinson music site : http://www.looping.me.uk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 19:51:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E85CA1834A1; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-24_08:2011-02-24,2011-02-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102240080 Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:51:08 -0800 Message-id: <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:51:20 +0000 (UTC) > Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only > Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to > setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. Here here! Also very limiting when trying to improvise song forms where differing song sections have differing lengths that are not even multiples of the first loop. This limitation in Ableton has driven many to use mobius rather than than the ableton looper. (and once you have scaled the learning curve of mobius, there really is no going back. Why climb a lesser mountain? D d On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: >> I'd really like to find a sensible way to provide advanced users with the ability to set up lengths that are multiples of the master for the auto punch-out, if it's feasible. >> > > > Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only > Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to > setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 20:27:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D13318347E; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1298579266; bh=vCMIKnTMg9+qGFWCsRjYgj/BgdRTWnukkne0H6dJcHM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iG98+YIo/ckfeGAiYxEV+C01J2sAL8a55STChxSFHeJeP0wzifLFxautapakZgruyqZNqiNb4kzHlhF1Qs2jNwWtuipTv+Xuoy9Xou/9Zhid192oEs7GXUnoxUpTfIVXIegBZ04f1lTwZsj4C9KaMhmZXngJ9BLPtknb/0Px30c= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 897927.16492.bm@smtp142.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: cmBA7pcVM1nFfWvc0crZqILarsogpFCboNyKQZl_LuNdQA5 E4uyWIEQUhwxMCGYDmbcb9UIW6ZhXJz8un0zDYo5G512EEZRJ39f0p2Wu0t3 9PI5X_u7ZHiVvQ1Ufk5URLkRkrUmUHJDr5IaSeNDJNS3fVqMPvkSAjQQF5a8 LnXGkkTL8k3iftYBmqlRucDl2ASzmf5VbKRywLan3ce30lTZWz4BLuTSEjMu FOvZ4jPbEPcOXDIQ0VujXhlf6RkpCxEuVR8ilLTHdVkWLcjk0RgZ2Vv4heYo CHRTgbz.EZAs0k.uc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <487A3618334E401CBF4A28031D096FC1@PC576340162804> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:27:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Hello John, There was also "ambiloop" I useds in the past: http://www.ambiloop.com/. I don't know it's current status. I switched to Mobius since .. heu .. what? 3 years? 4? Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Singletary" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:53 AM Subject: Mobius Alternatives > Hey All, so I've been playing around some with Mobius and think it > seems like an very good program but also find the interface a bit hard > to work with in some respects. I was wondering what, if any, other > programs are out there that essentially do what mobius does in terms > of live looping but that might have a little les steep of a learning > curve or an interface thats a bit more user friendly. However, if > Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its > features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its > a matter of know whats out there. Thanks again to everyone for your > help, I've been experimenting with some different looping techniques > and planning my setup, still aquiring a lot of the pieces to make it > all work but this is something i've been interested in for some time > and actuallly applying this method is really re-invigorating my > interest in playing and performing so its a lot of fun. > Best Regards, > > John Singletary > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 20:33:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6BE2183484; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110224131040.faptqd3dic048wkc@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:10:40 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives References: <487A3618334E401CBF4A28031D096FC1@PC576340162804> In-Reply-To: <487A3618334E401CBF4A28031D096FC1@PC576340162804> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <-j_Cy.A.13.lCsZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:33:41 +0000 (UTC) AmbiLoop still gets updates every so often.. and it is pretty straight =20 forward to use.. :) -cpr Quoting Ruelle Benoit : > Hello John, > > There was also "ambiloop" I useds in the past: > http://www.ambiloop.com/. I don't know it's current status. > I switched to Mobius since .. heu .. what? 3 years? 4? > > Ben. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Singletary" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:53 AM > Subject: Mobius Alternatives > > >> Hey All, so I've been playing around some with Mobius and think it >> seems like an very good program but also find the interface a bit hard >> to work with in some respects. I was wondering what, if any, other >> programs are out there that essentially do what mobius does in terms >> of live looping but that might have a little les steep of a learning >> curve or an interface thats a bit more user friendly. However, if >> Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its >> features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its >> a matter of know whats out there. Thanks again to everyone for your >> help, I've been experimenting with some different looping techniques >> and planning my setup, still aquiring a lot of the pieces to make it >> all work but this is something i've been interested in for some time >> and actuallly applying this method is really re-invigorating my >> interest in playing and performing so its a lot of fun. >> Best Regards, >> >> John Singletary >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 20:43:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57CB3183494; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iSluUDvt1NnS76s3Klliix20CGfD65wuLEBKYuUKUqk=; b=t9SC2y4xHonXZm3FET1tESOPGgCx0UV3qG3jRYDB73Abwa+3QYleqHN0JdgdyEcJUG YPJeV8wT/nZrjyzzxt1RzGFZf9Quw8aR3bHLeNcmokmX3XmxsDhyq/ByxFT2uVdmlkDr +VE7tg0o+9QIS7gF2vOee8lP3pEVAT1o5LiNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XKxBi/G5aD3nXUMw34pThwbs0R3ARvVMl8dZCp4TEoUraAPgR58b9boZFy0FxqC+to hRwVrOp4R8KMSywpjRTeyj7s15T9LLfQBRgs5RpjBbzqIIg4VkQVhb1oH7h+BHMev0xL wMtrP0Q8mCqcoshOGRSxDiu/Jfwa5bvuuHjPM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:42:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2xZAo5nO_TLgxB3ZzJx1nMYbFhE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f9c56962ea4049d0d42aa Resent-Message-ID: <_dsGdB.A.DIB.ZLsZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:43:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016367f9c56962ea4049d0d42aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singletary wrote: > However, if > Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its > features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its > a matter of know whats out there. > Currently ... it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. basically has too much showing by default, there should be the ability to change UI=B4s and start with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll get th= ere in the end... then you'll be very happy! --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016367f9c56962ea4049d0d42aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singletary <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:
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Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its
features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its<= br> a matter of know whats out there.

Currently ...= it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. basically has too = much showing by default, there should be the ability to change UI=B4s and s= tart with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll get there in the end.= .. then you'll be very happy!

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Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--0016367f9c56962ea4049d0d42aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 20:51:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B56541834A5; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_aInHcZnh7St6uVBbwBMOBA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-24_09:2011-02-24,2011-02-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=5 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102240091 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:51:50 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Message-id: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_aInHcZnh7St6uVBbwBMOBA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Mobius definitely worth the learning curve. d On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:42 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singletary = wrote: > However, if > Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its > features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its > a matter of know whats out there. >=20 > Currently ... it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. = basically has too much showing by default, there should be the ability = to change UI=B4s and start with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll = get there in the end... then you'll be very happy! >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Boundary_(ID_aInHcZnh7St6uVBbwBMOBA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, = Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singletary <singletaryj472@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
However, if
Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its
features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess = its
a matter of know whats out there.

Currently = ... it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. basically = has too much showing by default, there should be the ability to change = UI=B4s and start with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll get there = in the end... then you'll be very happy!

--
Mark = Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter = @markfrancombe

= --Boundary_(ID_aInHcZnh7St6uVBbwBMOBA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 22:40:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3CF118347E; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JkOlCzg/yYH1/rFfevzKv/gRHDdr07KH2dE/hvMN8AE=; b=SsyMAaVRqHvHxh7yPrPyIzRKvDqNZbPtcrNATJpJXR/ko0SK2+1oMPIP+9iWGup41n onLoA0GnOksmpO5g9yuawyYG1idm98Y7v+Pb/bZXaZWJo/5SynaXdGCJq6a9iKocAPac rdBmTgV8302ytRY1nZFbXWN/mthZjuspJC+w0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vw+Lc6rZEzj/50YNa3rTBagH6ffkGZDIZ8Glexwu2LhzliVFZ2sRC0iNFJ1U7J5mhD W6y69/pqBojGEDmxg41p+CharwRk2V1QL30k5CCkW3SKF9sG9A+EALtaYKz0eXcYJlc9 L5l+oG6C+RYNC0znvbrsPd98xINCXrzsc/Iyw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30434508f16703049d0ed73b Resent-Message-ID: <1NWfYD.A.yiE.i5tZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:40:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30434508f16703049d0ed73b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would agree. I have had now 3 bouts with it and have a grown a bit in comfort each time this being the best. I agree the on the initial the user interface is not the friendliess (Jeff sorry here) but it grows more comfortable the more you get in to it and in the end makes a great deal of sense in how it is presented. One advantage of it's look is that it loads fast, it is not a heavy layered gui and I think runs pretty lean graphicall= y to give it's resources to it's actual functionality for live music making. Also on the plus of the interface I really like how the whole becomes very much you as the user 'make it your own' meaning through adding all the user interface buttons for scripts and functions. I've really grown with it a lo= t this time. Give it time, get in to the excellent documentation and try to get comfortable first in it's simplicity of function (recording a track, a loop) then take the rest little by little. Also bear in mind this is tremendous support here both from the developer Jeff who is very active in this community and then from all of us of which I am on the light end, Per, Mark, Daniel, are all senior users, tap their brains. Best Jim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Daniel Thomas wrote= : > Mobius definitely worth the learning curve. > > d > > On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:42 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singletary > wrote: > >> However, if >> Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its >> features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its >> a matter of know whats out there. >> > > Currently ... it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. > basically has too much showing by default, there should be the ability to > change UI=B4s and start with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll get = there > in the end... then you'll be very happy! > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > > > --=20 *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com --20cf30434508f16703049d0ed73b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would agree.=A0 I have had now 3 bouts with it and have a grown a bit in = comfort each time this being the best.=A0 I agree the on the initial the us= er interface is not the friendliess (Jeff sorry here) but it grows more com= fortable the more you get in to it and in the end makes a great deal of sen= se in how it is presented.=A0 One advantage of it's look is that it loa= ds fast, it is not a heavy layered gui and I think runs pretty lean graphic= ally to give it's resources to it's actual functionality for live m= usic making.=A0 Also on the plus of the interface I really like how the who= le becomes very much you as the user 'make it your own' meaning thr= ough adding all the user interface buttons for scripts and functions. I'= ;ve really grown with it a lot this time.=A0 Give it time, get in to the ex= cellent documentation and=A0 try to get comfortable first in it's simpl= icity of function (recording a track, a loop) then take the rest little by = little.=A0 Also bear in mind=A0 this is tremendous support here both from t= he developer Jeff who is very active in this community and then from all of= us of which I am on the light end, Per, Mark, Daniel, are all senior users= , tap their brains.

Best

Jim

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 = at 3:51 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote:
Mobius definitely worth the learning = curve.

d
<= div class=3D"h5">
On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:42 PM, mark francombe= wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:53 AM, John Singlet= ary <singletaryj472@gmail.com> wrote:
However, if
Mobius is the best program out there I'd gladly learn all of its
features so I don't to settle for something less powerful, I guess its<= br> a matter of know whats out there.

Currently ...= it is the best... the interface seems tricky at first.. basically has too = much showing by default, there should be the ability to change UI=B4s and s= tart with a newbie UI. But work with it... you'll get there in the end.= .. then you'll be very happy!

--
Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
<= a style=3D"color: rgb(51, 0, 51);" href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" tar= get=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe




--
From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free = Jazz recording by Jim Goodin & Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
from the s= ale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.= com.

woo= dandwiremusic.wordpress.com
--20cf30434508f16703049d0ed73b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 22:57:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3EEB183480; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KfGq-mLK1qwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=skAyru5KpseUxfoPKycA:9 a=pzoAAy29ZHNRbdR-b9QA:7 a=tFgvESElulq_Usxz1J95Bo8AZrAA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:57:23 -0500 (EST) From: =?UTF8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <446414637.3832083.1298588243554.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 45 X-Originating-IP: [68.118.35.162] Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <-U8FbC.A.WEF.UJuZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) I am sure that some of you may be familiar with classical pianist, Christopher O'Riley. For Radiohead fans and non-fans alike, I cannot recomment his solo piano interpretations of Radiohead music enough. "Hold Me To This - Christopher O'Riley Plays Radiohead" . . . and . . . "True Love Waits - O'Riley Plays Radiohead" These 2 CD are neither erzats, pastel muzak renditions, nor are they smarmy new-age (a al George Winston) pap. O'riley, as a highly respected classical pianist, arranger, and conductor, has made the unthinkable . . . a serious attempt to get inside the music and really, faithfully, bring out the beauty that's there in Radiohead's music. I was shocked by the recordings when I first heard them - absolutely stunned by the beauty of it. And, when I hear RH now, I listen to them with an entirely new set of ears. If you are so inclined, give O'Riley's rearrangements a listen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 23:03:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AABAF18347E; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20110224154024.re49kbzmccgwkk48@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:40:24 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <446414637.3832083.1298588243554.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: <446414637.3832083.1298588243554.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Thanks tEd! listening to these two albums now.. already enthralled =20 with the opening of Everything In It's Right Place.. :) not that it's the same, but contextually it reminds me of Tori Amos' =20 cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit.. all the passion and energy of the =20 original.. :) -cpr Quoting tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn : > I am sure that some of you may be familiar with classical pianist, > Christopher O'Riley. > > For Radiohead fans and non-fans alike, I cannot recomment his solo > piano interpretations of Radiohead music enough. > > "Hold Me To This - Christopher O'Riley Plays Radiohead" . . . and . . . > "True Love Waits - O'Riley Plays Radiohead" > > These 2 CD are neither erzats, pastel muzak renditions, nor are they > smarmy new-age (a al George Winston) pap. > > O'riley, as a highly respected classical pianist, arranger, and > conductor, has made the unthinkable . . . a serious attempt to get > inside the music and really, faithfully, bring out the beauty that's > there in Radiohead's music. > > I was shocked by the recordings when I first heard them - absolutely > stunned by the beauty of it. > > And, when I hear RH now, I listen to them with an entirely new set of ears= . > > If you are so inclined, give O'Riley's rearrangements a listen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 24 23:10:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C584F18347F; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AA9kMHuyR7XYP415Iu5InoMzmL8nppduxVq0wneM/Yk=; b=Bk3UPphejb/1FYawKS8Ay39JVO5gSc0ZsCbzjwYNg9hg0wXz12zT8pQcC0VBBMloKc 6hlibjtuBoXoTzQleJhXtWZzekX/xbm+SKnvh9rRAr7MhFJRNh/L0UrT+AOO1aBO2ERu ViI5B63axcL+0J7SWIlZBeRqHR9M7j1X7nM7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mGIi/O1sH6qxaa+VxysAaZG4jrpjgugfJxfKs4yKdUzxN+c6cPQ+9AkmrfmDuDxJL8 v2K8Q1bGHsR2PKmL/9Mnq5gHh+DtkSEBf+en3vMefIR6OKhJ5LKH2rWhkiumiFXHTN0q acfe9ZzrQgK62mwOrr06zu+4qWgSYRH4tiXD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:09:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:10:00 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > I really like how the whole becomes very much you as the user 'make it your > own' meaning through adding all the user interface buttons for scripts and > functions. I agree with Jim about the goodness of that approach! Rather than "learning all Mobius functions", because that would be a horrendously exhausting task that might not leave much energy left in you for making music. Myself I use just a few functions in Mobius and hardly know how the other stuff works. IMHO the most rewarding end to start at is to define what you want to do with looping. Then set up Mobius for that and stick with it. After all a looper like Mobius is an instrument and the only way to learn an instrument is to keep it in tune and make sure it answers back to your playing in the same way evert time you pick it up. Do sot and the godess of loopaliciousness will manifest before 3AM. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 01:41:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614B9183485; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6708B0.2030606@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:41:04 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:41:10 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm EST/GMT-5 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Danish artist Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Live in Germany 2008& 2009" by Nattefrost on Groove Unlimited. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 07:43:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42118183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 23906.90066.bm@omp1005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298619781; bh=7J8Egqc2RVXB32Jn7qw1DVNYHHFjeCeVs7lggymizt0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=guN4FKtp8W/z6hywH51w1ulXhR+qMEWxWx1zFwAINp5a0dwGkvwgu1EHW6jBoEAjlZ5R1dWCuBflgyOAZXFqrKnfpK+bg5eWuMyBPJfmA0NOzJofl0qQ3bB+dllzp7raxA8eSavNNMFrfg0ZaXAXYWp0xFoCNgqlBluozDNHIhQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tgHLq0xxrMRbozTxQK2yDVWCfXIzg7G+uS6LcVs0yoUx5eBoaXEePOYHZUWShMjwTtQ3mxdQHhQIn8efYhtP5bCmRU/eNsNqMyBTSG/1/FEM+pWqMZuWr9Xw1er/FmrPV8SccVVcQy0343NSrb9mS5Bc8EGZ9rCcB0XB3W1eiXE=; Message-ID: <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zAGj3foVM1l2t_Wth82iG6ClcqXS6vjCUJFLAa5ElZD3oKN 5nR2lbFs3_7oTuXQNmQ84hhB0wt6.tJvYRGpgrOjgtcbX0Q8H0_kISTo.qVI Py.7uwY9kYjrM5p.kDQT1qO6AJSRw26LTUUD4cWfE7.ham3LhGYEBYm1b15d GiqDEn4FTQNUkpdnCJZUKX2KAjtgsNk3OV9z07Qy8E6KbwEkDgtL4abhHUto tszYq2er.NFQGO32vsLLDGXDBCFktZ9YDyww_D81RDBzI2C.q3iU23HjPDTQ 99xIdQBQh2WogD6MZsemdc6180pMcbOvEvI9nm3P6CC3KL_I- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:43:01 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: stick stand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1009818585-1298619781=:65903" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:43:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-1009818585-1298619781=:65903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have found it difficult to play on a stand but for very short parts when = I am =0Abuilding a piece with many instruments a stand might work. At least= I can grab =0Athe instrument and strap it on faster that way.=0A=0AAntony= =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per Boysen =0ATo: Loopers-Delight =0ASe= nt: Thu, February 24, 2011 4:51:50 PM=0ASubject: Re: stick stand=0A=0ANice = that you are able to play the Stick on a stand. I'm finding that=0Aextremel= y difficult. I remember someone at the Stick forum posting=0Apictures of a = stand he had built himself. A stand that holds the=0Ainstrument at a conven= ient playing postion. Oh, and the duo=0AHeartstrings always use stands for = playing. Search them out on=0AYouTube.=0A=0AMyself I strap it on very tight= at an almost vertical position. I like=0Athe feeling of having the instrum= ent "glued to the body". It may not=0Abe possible to "dance about architect= ure" but you definitely can dance=0Aabout music as "a cheat" to improve pla= ying accuracy ;-)=0A=0APer=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Steph= en Goodman=0A wrote:=0A> While the following list= s itself as a stand for the Stick, it=E2=80=99s not the only=0A> stand that= can perform this task.=0A> http://www.stick.com/accessories/stand/=0A>=0A>= Hercules makes a stand that has adjustable supports on the bottom to=0A> a= ccommodate thin-profile instruments, like the Stick, or for that matter the= =0A> Steinbergers.=0A> http://www.herculesstands.com/guitars/guitarstands.h= tml=0A>=0A> Either way it should be what you want.=0A>=0A> From: antonyhequ= et@yahoo.com=0A> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:42 PM=0A> To: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Subject: stick stand=0A>=0A> I am going to = be on stage again soon and I need to polish up my set up. Does=0A> anyone h= ave a source for a good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick?=0A> The i= dea is to put the stick at a height where I could either play it on the=0A>= stand, or just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it th= e=0A> regular way...=0A>=0A> Antony Hequet=0A>=0A> ________________________= ________=0A> From: Per Boysen =0A> To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com=0A> Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM=0A> Subjec= t: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro=0A>=0A>> On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:06 AM= , "Per Boysen" wrote:=0A>>=0A>>> For a pro user the h= ighest priority might not be to get the most=0A>>> powerful machine but rat= her the most stable one that may be replaced=0A>>> with minimal down-time o= f shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or=0A>>> later if working fulltime= with the gear).=0A>=0A> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andy Owens wrote:=0A>> Thanks Per, I think I am just gonna build a M= ad Max kind of PC in rack=0A>> mountable one space computer case, speaking = of less down time, then I have=0A>> huge options for getting back up and ru= nning, any office syore or staples or=0A>> best buy I can replace any piece= in it in five minutes, unlike the pile of=0A>> laptops in my office corner= , none working or worth fixing.=0A>>=0A>> Andy o=0A>=0A> That's great for t= hose who can afford the time to do it. Some years=0A> ago I only used home = built Windows XP PC's and I used to set them up=0A> with three or four boot= able partitions. Two identical for the studio=0A> music applications and on= e for email, office work etc. All my=0A> documents, working files, were sav= ed in other partitions or better on=0A> external drives so that I could acc= ess the work docs form any system.=0A> If I was recording a client and got = struck by computer issues I didn't=0A> have to loose time by solving the is= sue on the spot, I simply=0A> restarted and booted the Windows XP form the = backup partition and then=0A> opened the song projekt from the external dri= ve. Solving the issue=0A> could be dealt with later on when the client had = left. I liked that=0A> system and it was great fun to research the best mus= ic pc components=0A> and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple b= oxes I tend to=0A> put a little more time into actual musical activities an= d that also a=0A> good thing.=0A>=0A> Per=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A --0-1009818585-1298619781=:65903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have found it difficult to play on a stand but for very short p= arts when I am building a piece with many instruments a stand might work. A= t least I can grab the instrument and strap it on faster that way.

Antony

From: Per Boysen <perboys= en@gmail.com>
To: Lo= opers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 4:51:50 PM<= br>Subject: Re: stick stan= d

=0ANice that you are able to play the Stick on a stand. I'm= finding that
extremely difficult. I remember someone at the Stick forum= posting
pictures of a stand he had built himself. A stand that holds th= e
instrument at a convenient playing postion. Oh, and the duo
Heartst= rings always use stands for playing. Search them out on
YouTube.

= Myself I strap it on very tight at an almost vertical position. I like
t= he feeling of having the instrument "glued to the body". It may not
be p= ossible to "dance about architecture" but you definitely can dance
about= music as "a cheat" to improve playing accuracy  ;-)

Per

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Stephen Goodman
<= spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
> While the following lists i= tself as a stand for the Stick, it=E2=80=99s not the only
> stand tha= t can perform this task.
> http://www.stick.com/accessories/stand/
><= br>> Hercules makes a stand that has adjustable supports on the bottom t= o
> accommodate thin-profile instruments, like the Stick, or for that= matter the
> Steinbergers.
> http://www.her= culesstands.com/guitars/guitarstands.html
>
> Either= way it should be what you want.
>
> From: antonyheque= t@yahoo.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:42 PM
> T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: stick stand
>
> I am going to be on stage a= gain soon and I need to polish up my set up. Does
> anyone have a source for a= good stand for the chapman stick, or NS stick?
> The idea is to put = the stick at a height where I could either play it on the
> stand, or= just pick it up and hang it on my belt when I need to play it the
> = regular way...
>
> Antony Hequet
>
> ______________= __________________
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&= gt;
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
> Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 3:26:57 PM
> Sub= ject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro
>
>> On Feb 24, 20= 11, at 9:06 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For a pro user the highest priority mig= ht not be to get the most
>>> powerful machine but rather the m= ost stable one that may be replaced
>>> with minimal down-time = of shit hits the fan (and it will, sooner or
>>> later if worki= ng fulltime with the gear).
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM= , Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:
>> Th= anks Per, I think I am just gonna build a Mad Max kind of PC in rack
>= ;> mountable one space computer case, speaking of less down time, then I= have
>> huge options for getting back up and running, any office = syore or staples or
>> best buy I can replace any piece in it in f= ive minutes, unlike the pile of
>> laptops in my office corner, no= ne working or worth fixing.
>>
>> Andy o
>
> That's great for those who can afford the time to do it.= Some years
> ago I only used home built Windows XP PC's and I used t= o set them up
> with three or four bootable partitions. Two identical= for the studio
> music applications and one for email, office work e= tc. All my
> documents, working files, were saved in other partitions= or better on
> external drives so that I could access the work docs = form any system.
> If I was recording a client and got struck by comp= uter issues I didn't
> have to loose time by solving the issue on the= spot, I simply
> restarted and booted the Windows XP form the backup= partition and then
> opened the song projekt from the external drive= . Solving the issue
> could be dealt with later on when the client ha= d left. I liked that
> system and it was great fun to research the be= st music pc components
> and build a new box now and then. With today's Apple boxes I tend to
> put a little more time into act= ual musical activities and that also a
> good thing.
>
> = Per
>
>

= =0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A --0-1009818585-1298619781=:65903-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 08:48:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37238183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X64ag9jOVvSzK9jlKz5jxJV9p7OhFwpSQ3vPiKGfv0c=; b=OC+8aCuRyOxFTt8clGzsuNJeUp10ayX6fOfe3w9dlc5GsebVZleuEAsvDAH8RsZgWN LcCL1uJhH3nnP2i7AOCpOokawfU9TRJSRF0LyPVvL3qnYhtuQ2e1hBpPvDVxr/k9xIOD TQkKSdfijQyKdOziLnDCvrH4Sco/roUIcmGaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a+J6g59vByw9LlX28d3YzjTOKO0ELptoAvwuTFfRnU0FaljIMBtTJ7rGvhqWP51YTH ZZ74TQjYIgJhmJwP9QS0wH8xRHcbhrkgIP/U+gVnghoZUxfQpUR39Fwh947dwiSZuRhA Ii2OoU/QEEZ1KC4WKo08vlh0QKKkFWuXGhAwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:48:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Luis listen up From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:48:16 +0000 (UTC) wow Andy thanx man ive been watching out for stuff like this! Luis On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Allright ya'll tell me this aint cool..... > > First, win the lottery, then, build a kickbutt PC into this box and put > it in your guitar rack...... > > http://us.startech.com/product/RKCONS1901R-Refurbished-1U-DuraView-19-Fo > lding-LCD-KVM-Rack-Console > > Put this above it......... > > http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=norco > +1u+rackmount+computer+case&cp=7&qe=bm9yY28gMXUgcmFja21vdW50IGNvbXB1dGVy > IGNhc2U&qesig=fyaQjbO8S3CboSh6jUKUzA&pkc=AFgZ2tnb4EVvlKg48iwKaF8M9-5b76Z > eNy4y-bf5p4WqkyhGHwXUDIaNi_GVzGAQ32Yt5liH3M96hoVaVOChab8ZKX4wDNk8AA&bav= > on.1,or.&wrapid=tljp129842373401144&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=128835424687033263 > 54&ei=zl9kTa6yNcWtgQfsr_zcAg&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&re > snum=4&sqi=2&ved=0CCkQ8wIwAw# > > Make it only one purpose machine looping or live recording software. > > Then put it in this box with all your other stuff....... > > http://vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=525 > > Hire a roadie!! > > Cool!!!! > > Andy o > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 08:56:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819B9183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Oq0A/NmUdYiGRQ2pv6yZEMDO7odbTf08DkLMoQMaKDs=; b=wpL8BxUNiGVsvaNLWHk5GZnpZNHZh1Nncv9ZG06BMpYqXGoxIFOQWY/xjRGWxhi/eC xn31UILRmkwD7aWvocc2H8bnDCyo133Y+8bFRWR8pyKcO0Adm7zM+xAj3E2372tWPNYq eUcqS2nrG7KL4c2Sv28+jatX32mRnFzP9lqLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IMO1ZrvpoEUYrNt5Zj3VkbXcJ89SKSt0vtY+N6vbjeip3iBV7P+ddPWkPKFqpjHn3W b85fo7vm7Uu/PhfOTMXd1AH+yFZi+5ueXcNFArpeg6VzL8fjqTB5Wi7uPbQ3ogU76xdx 6rDSvHKm+XEWBGgNbocAh6P9frI45Hc2eO0Qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:56:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:56:05 +0000 (UTC) go for mobius is the best!!! modifiy the GUI and then it wont be so intimidating,you dont need all that yet,it can be used as a very baisc looping device but is nice to have all of the other functions. As you learn it you will keep discovering new functions,most of them being very useful and thats why is so exciting,yoi can even create your own,it keeps getting better and better,is like getting a new device every year;-) Luis On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: >> I really like how the whole becomes very much you as the user 'make it your >> own' meaning through adding all the user interface buttons for scripts and >> functions. > > I agree with Jim about the goodness of that approach! Rather than > "learning all Mobius functions", because that would be a horrendously > exhausting task that might not leave much energy left in you for > making music. Myself I use just a few functions in Mobius and hardly > know how the other stuff works. IMHO the most rewarding end to start > at is to define what you want to do with looping. Then set up Mobius > for that and stick with it. After all a looper like Mobius is an > instrument and the only way to learn an instrument is to keep it in > tune and make sure it answers back to your playing in the same way > evert time you pick it up. Do sot and the godess of loopaliciousness > will manifest before 3AM. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > www.looproom.com internet music hub > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 08:58:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D11F4183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 880235.27397.bm@omp1020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298624314; bh=NYSTUEmmS4n7ywAGsozdPmC5dvPTlWwBI0P3V3bLUnM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZQzbVjwXON34tPEs27DJUJD5W6KQucaqpD/+S51bzduQVyDQuI3Y0Vdh92DH6k4MoMgEquk940tBGxFa+zCH7g0BgobzvgF0rqClNc5zPBSNthGEL+Zg5F6JgsTZd2LKJ0hkc7BhYEx1mycaiAlg4Aq/6x0GBMw7d+ZQrz0pVoM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jMzuV+SrZcdB8Wate3tRtL20yc6er+KmW7jHwg581/u8IycrKxXWsjnO/LYc98RtrUpvsYa/ja9wfVZhYumoXcQiSb1nsWtG4gJOCHv0uokRrrzmxyjFdlVhAkUpxHdmto+SlkKoEFF2Yk2O7RxDEmtl1U5XXSmhAbYteby8szM=; Message-ID: <759653.57389.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zwQ3XMEVM1lB3AmurG5aX9zv_QygjJ8vjW1qcVvIl67n3EY 3H7J2evkRdkWjIe6I4UZAQFwmwgV0ZOGIfw4ztWOJ1jmpxrQFZ0wZwfNmKpu WKCpEcpYMshd2a8IRe4vdqUs59.D2sEUPShOKp_fyUaV4_xmcpIoRk.12fz1 nlO1m3kMPNGCm90ljaK3kKnzSS02K0PdKrzDjJDJI1j3O1sEKE70tMUl0pD. NXBrZq.IuOe9O6X2rsXu7lGkgndVR1fSW5SMbPlTT0W2sPWZB7FLR9GE6IMb VtrNqKw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:58:34 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: latest word on softstep To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1940887164-1298624314=:57389" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:58:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1940887164-1298624314=:57389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what is the latest word on the softstep MIDI floor controller. I am particularly interested in the stand alone mode. Any good news, any progress... 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what is the latest word on the softstep MIDI floor controller. I am particularly interested in the stand alone mode.

Any good news, any progress...

Antony Hequet

--0-1940887164-1298624314=:57389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 09:04:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676D518347F; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZMOHoimdlJv3Zt7T9oTTgCESByZ/um13Xg5xVnEF1do=; b=s23yezbzBTbITSUlYRe7JKRLwgt9MBfRNVILN1LT5t2MyR6jdjf7U0ikWla4dTif17 i5g83k6lBsEq6ah7VCT6qxGzb+Vf7+Z6hJWGIx5+8xX3dOOrm6vMxtyarX7wMtr6kzkB OaxOmwj2QZGXbXXlEDZ/ptyAzEeNUZes4pI+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o3NxQwrRjzVwrBHToGBW7p/5NDsTC1tDxuhXb6gOTd4OLrgl2T6JlXqpS3dcIt8ug4 WHq3aad5+nEXKURr6RTGLvXZ7zNZrwhmUFojtsfFJ5LR8fJQ8IrW+F4FW562dz9X2z7l EoHjoCn/zqw9EwMMLRAoVWzpAfAXJ/hdxuye0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4D6564D3.6040307@cruzio.com> <87F8DC40-3F65-4B07-9504-4905406CCC32@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0GbZdC.A.57E.rC3ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Per i didnt know this,man i wish you a quick and healthy recovery we need you here buddy;-) blessings Luis On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Or *just happened*, rather :-) =A0Woke up as a re-designed man-machine > and the staff here put me on my first mission: TO EAT. > > per > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:36 AM, mark francombe = wrote: >> Wow... is that happening tomorrow Per...? >> After talking to you at y2Kx about it, and my recent experiences, I kind= a >> knew that you would getting that final bit of your treatment anyday now,= was >> gonna ask you off list how it was going... >> >>>> "default-mode-minus-30-cm" >> >> =A0...dont hurry that first wonderful nice big poo... oops did I say tha= t out >> loud..? >> >> Really good luck mate, my best wishes and love to ya... >> >> MArk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Per Boysen wrote= : >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Thomas >>> wrote: >>> > Were it not for this truly great news concerning Per's health... this >>> > thread would probably have invoked an unsubscribe from me. >>> > >>> > :) >>> >>> Thanks! Glad to hear that, Thomas. :-) =A0I won't become immortal but a= t >>> this moment it feels damn close... at dawn, 5:30 AM, I will walk in -5 >>> (man, that's Fahrenheit!) for an hour to the surgery hospital and have >>> my intestines reconnected into "default-mode-minus-30-cm" (just did 7 >>> months on Ileo Stoma - not all bad, but boring in the long run). >>> Bringing as many Apple products I can carry; iphone, 2 Jona Gold, 2 >>> Golden Delicious, Macbook.... gonna be a snob working wireless from >>> the hospital as I will have to stay a couple of days for observation. >>> >>> Per >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 09:10:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DADF6183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EyauyNrgbgYPyITTB5+XduFBYpVKmhWYITf5UX5yDS8=; b=Ch85M8tzzrb+xo7qWKEkbqPb3XtkOBjLMz0ddqNsLcwHX0SnhkHQJexNWdoL+3DFl2 new0yn86qbTYvuw4/5uOrY2qR0/uHbwcv9K1eumVXfe1w1/bytzsc8csYE9VrNPU2m0X FTreF1AA3+vgl98uWIPoMjHzhAkR2ya8eChcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Nw5c7xKhw01aqwJ88yVwXqK2LKXBiAYDFujMynd4MFR8Mh8DfksOOG8cRJYjHVgLsQ 88JjFtZ+vxNJQ/2hjVqPRq/mSlN43zTw7VcbGW2j6fYh79MA58EzyJjj7nDLcDROHfPY 94YET1w98nQBBuMdl4KU054vqfI2F3pj6uf/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:10:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:10:22 +0000 (UTC) > I didn't like them at first either. For years I got hung up on how > much Thom Yorke sounds like a cat left out in the rain. He should do a > duo album with Beth Gibbons of Portishead. :) LOL!!!! good one Matt id been looking for that term myself:-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 10:23:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32E16183482; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D67832F.4010505@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:23:43 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <02eCOD.A.MgH.5M4ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:23:53 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > No, but what an awesome band name! But as a matter of fact I played a > live looping impro gig in 1987 (!) at the same festival where Bobby > Gillespie bashed the skins in Jesus and Mary Chain. They sounded > great! What gear were you using for that gig, Per, and can you describe what you did in the show using live looping? Just curious. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 10:34:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CC55183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D67859F.1000006@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:34:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Luis listen up References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6gJMR.A.9xH.kW4ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owen wrote to Luis Angulo: > http://us.startech.com/product/RKCONS1901R-Refurbished-1U-DuraView-19-Fo > > lding-LCD-KVM-Rack-Console Wow! Very hip, but $709 USD? Ouch, that sounds like highway robbery to me. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 11:08:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5853183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D678DB6.3000301@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:08:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:08:44 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Never been a Mac user, been thinking on it, but a question. Why get a souped up Mac and then only run windows on it for music? Seems the ease of operation blah blah all the Mac hype kind of goes out the window here. Why not spend half as much, get a killer souped up PC laptop and run Win 7? TigerDirect just sent me an advert: A Samsung Pentium i7 quad core 1.62ghz laptop, 15.6" screen, 4 gigs of DDR3 Ram, 650g HD, NVIDIA GeForce, 330m graphics card with 1 gig of memory, a Samsung 3dr Sound system with Windows 7 Premium 64 bit installed all for $789 USD. All I'm sayin' is, if I had the dough, I'd buy: one for audio (no internet connection) one to clone your audio setup and then run your video, only, on it (connect that sucker with a small partition for email and downloading) a really nice video projector a really nice portable projection screen and a couple of botique stomp box pedals for shits and giggles and still have money saved because you didn't buy the top of the line MacBook Pro All respect to my Mac only friends. rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 11:18:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A39D183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D679007.90104@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:18:31 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <5362027F3E2A4B2AB975370AA7B4C625@ELUK1> In-Reply-To: <5362027F3E2A4B2AB975370AA7B4C625@ELUK1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:18:37 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements > expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. Dear Stephen, I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do Per's take on it, but the reason I do is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I have some anger about having bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop computer.....one that has been vastly improved in future iterations). There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and on and on). There are compelling reasons why MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access to 3rd party improvements and on an on) Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences with gear is anecdotal, so it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does about the hardware or software or OS. Personally, it gets my goat when people get really smug about equipment but, in this case, I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems out there in the world as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist (interviewing artists and writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for his rigor and his intelligence in writing about it. I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same breath, I also respect Per's. My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. with respect, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 13:49:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60F1118347B; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <4D678DB6.3000301@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <4D678DB6.3000301@cruzio.com> Message-ID: <9FEA21A5-0C99-4DC3-A462-47B3AD4EF9BD@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:48:49 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Topic: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Thread-Index: AcvU8r9G0EPJuW2sSeW+5MSxtIL4kw== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 13:49:28.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[D207ECE0:01CBD4F2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:08 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > a really nice video projector > a really nice portable projection screen= FYI. At Christmas time, trying to be a good hubby, shopping (yes dear, oh ye= s thats nice....aaargghh) the Goddess of Loopaliciousnes favored me at Kohls= by making me notice that they had a video projector that was like $150 or l= ess, looked pretty good. I cant even get a replacement bulb for my old $2000= projector for that!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 14:06:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D40B183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: stick stand References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9AE41901-F90F-4A02-96A3-B4FBA03F7F1A@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:06:15 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Topic: stick stand Thread-Index: AcvU9S7reoS3f/vISI6IpOY2+kgRSw== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 14:06:34.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[3585D370:01CBD4F5] Resent-Message-ID: <4O78xB.A.O_E.rd7ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:06:35 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:43 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > and strap it on faster that way. Ok Antony here's an idea for you, always wanted to try it, Velcro jump suit t= hen Velcro on your instruments and you just stick them on and off on your bo= dy. Not using that fiddle? Stick it behind your knee!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 14:08:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DE32183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Luis listen up References: <4D67859F.1000006@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-360630548"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <4D67859F.1000006@cruzio.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:08:13 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: Luis listen up Thread-Index: AcvU9XWbT+EU/1HTSKKG+QkRmYVAiA== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 14:08:34.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D6B2140:01CBD4F5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:08:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-360630548 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know but so so cool!! Norco makes some that are a bit cheaper. Andy o On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:34 AM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > Andy Owen wrote to Luis Angulo: > > http://us.startech.com/product/RKCONS1901R-Refurbished-1U-DuraView-19-Fo > > > lding-LCD-KVM-Rack-Console > > Wow! Very hip, but $709 USD? Ouch, that sounds like highway robbery > to me. > > rick walker > --Apple-Mail-3-360630548 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I know but so so cool!!

Norco makes some that are a bit cheaper. 

Andy o



On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:34 AM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

Andy Owen wrote to Luis Angulo:
> http://us.startech.com/product/RKCONS1901R-Refurbished-1U-DuraView-19-Fo
> >  lding-LCD-KVM-Rack-Console

Wow!   Very hip, but $709 USD?    Ouch, that sounds like highway robbery
to me.

rick walker

--Apple-Mail-3-360630548-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 14:22:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D374D183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585227235/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBACNJZ01V0r0c/2dsb2JhbAAMmBy/HY0XhWAEj08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,225,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585227235" Message-ID: <4D67BB2A.5020501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:22:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 'nother edp video References: <4D66B155.16711.251FBA1@nick.1957.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D66B155.16711.251FBA1@nick.1957.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0UUTzD.A.LbF.hs7ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:22:25 +0000 (UTC) nick@12testing.net wrote: > Have uploaded another > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGJ1SRgJLY > > covering quantised replace. Very nice. These are excellent. > > Any ideas for what to cover next? I'm still just scratching the > surface... Part 2 of the 8th Replace demo would be to multiply up to 8 cycles at the end of the demo. (or whatever, by 8 works good) Then use Undo (for loop windowing). That will give you an 8 cycle loop which charts the evolution of your 1 cycle loop. That's the "other thing" you can do with loop windows, (official technical term). All that 8th replace leaves a very interesting trail in the memory, and this is a great way to unearth it. andy > > > > All the best, > > Nick Robinson > > music site : http://www.looping.me.uk > myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops > looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 14:22:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 382C018347C; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 129832.34179.bm@omp1042.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298643750; bh=mk1hSJHeFzLU8OjuM0tD3OabFgH4oGY0cdwx7RkwysM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xwgRWJa2cez562ARBdvzKwa9yDCQpvOSDPrn67mxkGh3R5EDMz0Tii4cWpeY1TmP3jElsiPNtvyYMI1YsAjWXA6H8NyA+gki5tsRC0q3U7GePiMj2BIjon2rQSwCbLTcjU682cI3ZCJLEVeBUthq3SHXuj572CJp7NixGjsYLfQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fpp+uz9YWnVFkhnfvqLSAv2ylhFCzgHzWAzFHMExeOs9uiwOQWuXcFsnQ/zwqBjTL3AFcSz0mWBuVOaDWiZBC4h8EAFa6Hx5IHOKIiSToip50g/xdjsk5NogyXHzjysc+1qdJgAh22jbXRoZoVQUuDcd3B132GIb/uoFdyYULe4=; Message-ID: <40360.68181.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 729HhjcVM1lUcXdBCcTX0DSfK5_VFsnh7CUZyVhIoDt0VNM aJ5DbaharE0rBl.CyBmokLhgWCC0gcUazyeoqz31PgePlHO4bVSY6jbJ7oqi ru9tzM_aG2MUmE7ewy4BEVndSUgoNGm03zmy2bt2vXoPP1.a65G3bG4boomV Ha5czuNnngoKrnRkFFSfWs_q5hjddBi2L1a5xSSjsXpWHHajOKPRPScZcoAV P8DdAqRDblTggLBequ7daQQ9X8lof1nwg0TJmfrKP1M4xA0ILLb4bFgxXPsL FSAYFseFhRhMwSsxt.KHSFmPaVnqUsntpBE7qYlrkjSeUprU- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9AE41901-F90F-4A02-96A3-B4FBA03F7F1A@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 06:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: stick stand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9AE41901-F90F-4A02-96A3-B4FBA03F7F1A@1800dialword.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1694752610-1298643749=:68181" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:22:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1694752610-1298643749=:68181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A sounds good but give me some more details. A ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 3:06:15 PM Subject: Re: stick stand On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:43 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > and strap it on faster that way. Ok Antony here's an idea for you, always wanted to try it, Velcro jump suit then Velcro on your instruments and you just stick them on and off on your body. Not using that fiddle? Stick it behind your knee!!! Andy o --0-1694752610-1298643749=:68181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
A
sounds good but give me some more details.

A

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 3:06:15 PM
Subject: Re: stick stand

On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:43 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

> and strap it on faster that way.

Ok Antony here's an idea for you, always wanted to try it, Velcro jump suit then Velcro on your instruments and you just stick them on and off on your body.  Not using that fiddle? Stick it behind your knee!!!

Andy o

--0-1694752610-1298643749=:68181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:13:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D15B6183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 576466994/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuMBAMtVZ01V0r0c/2dsb2JhbAAMmByXQbRshWAEj08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,225,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="576466994" Message-ID: <4D67C71E.10408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:13:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Luis listen up References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:13:26 +0000 (UTC) >> http://vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=525 >> >> Hire a roadie!! >> >> Cool!!!! >> >> Andy o That's a 2 roadie job! I was dumb enough to buy a rack case that big. ...couldn't shift it :-) andy b From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:35:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2872183476; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cN8qTj4Z95emen80my2lD1/V45Q8u61sjD/ZFO28Uuc=; b=dLF7JjA8msjEJBTkWgMQGtcQDyU3ELC0IsrO75TMShY0hF1VlmfVr8939fXC7V4928 0CcobyGcBbqzJpynpzsUxkCjTAVyqFw+v4sfCEE8U7bA3vADHRsCGLwfvk5Qfh0ivaS6 zaf9rzgn/88SY05Ewrsjlsgmt2HOWbYaayEj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=O+hqSvWj1bbJKno3sGIE1GDiDWV+fCqvliKvsT0qtpQPxdhqZej0mq8XTGaAgvgn0u TqtLyCp11oRh7z/Lwqg6SNh7oWR3QLudJtQyaYfIitZkTYu+8FCoXxNvFtp+ekOlXN/5 g5qyWIbXUljkhsMk9yS7hP3/P0v5ODSN/HQeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: henkel.chris@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> From: Chris Henkel Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:34:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -QWwGTKBpBu7pEQ9DKHop0cRjLs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284d7efeb18d049d1d122c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:35:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636284d7efeb18d049d1d122c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ...what about the built-in Looper in Live?... ...it seems that with multiple Looper-effect-devices in an effects-rack and that placed into multiple tracks it might be much easier to get a similar and working setup than with Mobius?... ...saying that with my background being an absolute newbie/dummy to looping software and having just read the Mobius-documentation and played around with it as plugin to Live... --001636284d7efeb18d049d1d122c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 ...what about the built-in Looper in Live?...

...it seems that with multiple Looper-effect-devices in an effects-rack and that placed into multiple tracks it might be much easier to get a similar and working setup than with Mobius?...

...saying that with my background being an absolute newbie/dummy to looping software and having just read the Mobius-documentation and played around with it as plugin to Live...
--001636284d7efeb18d049d1d122c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:40:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DB0F183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Velcro References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9AE41901-F90F-4A02-96A3-B4FBA03F7F1A@1800dialword.com> <40360.68181.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <40360.68181.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47DA3B61-C5ED-4CF1-90EC-214E8DD52111@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:39:54 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thread-Topic: Velcro Thread-Index: AcvVAkV56M7BVLgcSX2K1f3gjd0VrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 15:40:31.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[557171A0:01CBD502] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:40:32 +0000 (UTC) On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > sounds good but give me some more details. Ok, so you know what Velcro is right? So, you get the soft side at a fabric= store, so it has not the sticky glue part, then you sew that to your jumpsu= it or shirt or whatever. Then you use the sticky kind and put that on your i= nstrument, then you just stick the instrument onto your body wherever you wa= nt it to be!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:42:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85A7C183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zZIPbLsY2bTHYcRmZ/UNYoWYZOOt29VAFlqS828t1JI=; b=UnQpL/OWitRRbsDhqug30GlHzozWakTB6Ip52pfsc/sYl5+0L+uL4t7kL1RtSe19We P3mn84e4lzU/gxCea/tiLOWhW4PqLXf4AQ2DA297/Wvanh8knhr7aaUV1vTj+OC9h+wL 6cF7VJhIQYSpmvgOIxNOoXz5HA0gStEkkRmN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HbF9HT+sgn9J2RVGhqUCexpEHEqXLwfot57KC3FrcrwAik+SMzLrW390pPIg7Dlr7G ZvRRc9O6aNdwig4bL+SB94XKErrb3jgZs06hpNJP5QnzLa8Llgr02LbWRjasa6ryxzZF ldfZf6mHOT/M7KXaZ5O3q9Gz8FehX64o6J26A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D679007.90104@cruzio.com> References: <5362027F3E2A4B2AB975370AA7B4C625@ELUK1> <4D679007.90104@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:42:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Rick, Not all of us (N.B. Per, especially) are talking about this anecdotally; my computer use musically has come about from my use of the technology in the day job and with over 20 years of watching hardware/software failures for common multi-purpose tasks, an evidential picture starts to emerge. That's one of the reasons why we have to be careful HOW we state what is perceived as opinions (and why I disagree with Stephen on what he said to Per and about this discussion). It's pretty clear that you got one of the less common lemons with your Mac and I am truly sorry...it DOES happen. But it is also a signal lesson on purchasing gear: if you're going to live on the bleeding edge, you have to be willing to be the beta tester. And THAT can be an expensive place to be. That's true whether it's a PC or Mac hardware, an radically new automobile design or a new looper from Roland (thinking back to all the hand-wringing when the first RC-50 came out, my own included!). It's a crap shoot. Best, Dennis http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >> Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements >> expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. > > Dear Stephen, > > I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do > Per's take on it, =A0but the reason I do > is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I ha= ve > some anger about having > bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop computer.....one > that has been vastly improved > in future iterations). > > There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache > (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality > control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and on = and > on). =A0There are compelling reasons why > MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance > (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access > to 3rd party improvements and on an on) > > Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences with > gear is anecdotal, so > it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. > > > Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does abou= t > the hardware or software or OS. > > Personally, =A0it gets my goat when people get really smug about equipmen= t > but, in this case, > I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems out > there in the world > as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist (interview= ing > artists and > writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for hi= s > rigor and his intelligence > in writing about it. > > > I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same breath,= =A0I > also > respect Per's. > > My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. > > with respect, =A0 Rick Walker > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:50:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58704183477; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Antony Hequet X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 1_8162320_ANlSimIAAVuwTWfNegNhUy/CARo Subject: Re: Velcro Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:49:30 +0100 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot!=20 Antony Sent from my iPhone On 2011-02-25, at 16:39, "Andy Owens" wrote: > On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: >=20 >> sounds good but give me some more details. >=20 > Ok, so you know what Velcro is right? So, you get the soft side at a fabr= ic store, so it has not the sticky glue part, then you sew that to your jump= suit or shirt or whatever. Then you use the sticky kind and put that on your= instrument, then you just stick the instrument onto your body wherever you w= ant it to be!!! >=20 > Andy o From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:55:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E982183482; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Velcro References: <4D6453DE.300@cruzio.com> <5196620492478588251@unknownmsgid> <0LH300MUO276GOS1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> <04281007-8F9F-4206-B034-342E924278A9@1800dialword.com> <509224.5191.qm@web120710.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <094C3D47D1D0498E8B88EA3D8EEBFB17@ELUK1> <905447.65903.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <9AE41901-F90F-4A02-96A3-B4FBA03F7F1A@1800dialword.com> <40360.68181.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <47DA3B61-C5ED-4CF1-90EC-214E8DD52111@1800dialword.com> <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-367047654"; charset="iso-8859-1" In-Reply-To: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1BD6D858-531D-46F0-81FD-5ADE9733FEA1@1800dialword.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:55:10 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: Velcro Thread-Index: AcvVBGd1yODJIaJaQW6PhH1wc1ukYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 15:55:46.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[76DCD300:01CBD504] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:55:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-367047654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It might pull your clothes off, but that would add to the show!!! On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:50 AM, "Antony Hequet" wrote= : > Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot! > Antony >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 2011-02-25, at 16:39, "Andy Owens" wrote: >=20 > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > > > >> sounds good but give me some more details. > > > > Ok, so you know what Velcro is right? So, you get the soft side at a fa= bric store, so it has not the sticky glue part, then you sew that to your ju= mpsuit or shirt or whatever. Then you use the sticky kind and put that on yo= ur instrument, then you just stick the instrument onto your body wherever yo= u want it to be!!! > > > > Andy o >=20 --Apple-Mail-4-367047654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
It might pull your clothes off, but that would add to the show!!!



On Feb 25, 2011, at 10:50 AM, "Antony Hequet" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot!
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-02-25, at 16:39, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> sounds good but give me some more details.
>
> Ok, so you know what Velcro is right?  So, you get the soft side at a fabric store, so it has not the sticky glue part, then you sew that to your jumpsuit or shirt or whatever. Then you use the sticky kind and put that on your instrument, then you just stick the instrument onto your body wherever you want it to be!!!
>
> Andy o

--Apple-Mail-4-367047654-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 15:57:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDA4F18347E; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_oOaHFyNwd4PRbGTeEsL0nA)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-25_05:2011-02-25,2011-02-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102250079 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Mobius Alternatives Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:57:08 -0800 In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <1D74099D-4BE8-4A4B-BBF8-B03B5635C969@mac.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:57:28 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_oOaHFyNwd4PRbGTeEsL0nA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > ...what about the built-in Looper in Live?... I put a LOT of time into this lopper. Unfortunately, it is very basic and limited. It does sport an elegant GUI design but is missing some critical features for live looping. For instance, though synchronized looping across multiple tracks is possible it is a huge pain in the arse-not practical and beyond the scope of many Ableton users. Further, Multiply / Divide functions do not support odd numbers so, creating song forms where the section lengths are not even multiples is not possible. In general, I would say that Ableton's loop plug in is aimed first at DJs who are using Ableton's grid editor to run prerecorded tracks with a loop in sync. Perhaps in the next revision, Ableton will give live loopers a little more love. D On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Chris Henkel wrote: > ...what about the built-in Looper in Live?... > > ...it seems that with multiple Looper-effect-devices in an effects-rack and that placed into multiple tracks it might be much easier to get a similar and working setup than with Mobius?... > > ...saying that with my background being an absolute newbie/dummy to looping software and having just read the Mobius-documentation and played around with it as plugin to Live... --Boundary_(ID_oOaHFyNwd4PRbGTeEsL0nA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ...what about the built-in Looper in = Live?...I put a LOT of time into this lopper. =  Unfortunately, it is very basic and = limited. 

It does sport an elegant GUI = design but is missing some critical features for live = looping.  For instance, though synchronized looping across = multiple tracks is possible it is a huge pain in the arse-not practical = and beyond the scope of many Ableton users.  Further, Multiply / = Divide functions do not support odd numbers so, creating song forms = where the section lengths are not even multiples is not = possible.   

In general, I would say = that Ableton's loop plug in is aimed first at DJs who are using = Ableton's grid editor to run prerecorded tracks with a loop in sync. =  Perhaps in the next revision, Ableton will give live loopers a = little more = love. 

D




On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Chris = Henkel wrote:

...what about the built-in Looper in Live?...

...it = seems that with multiple Looper-effect-devices in an effects-rack and = that placed into multiple tracks it might be much easier to get a = similar and working setup than with Mobius?...

...saying that with my background being an absolute newbie/dummy to = looping software and having just read the Mobius-documentation and = played around with it as plugin to Live...

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OK I'll try it and let you know how it goes:-)

A

From: Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 4:49:30 PM
Subject: Re: Velcro

Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot!
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-02-25, at 16:39, "Andy Owens" <andy@1800dialword.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:22 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> sounds good but give me some more details.
>
> Ok, so you know what Velcro is right?  So, you get the soft side at a fabric store, so it has not the sticky glue part, then you sew that to your jumpsuit or shirt or whatever. Then you use the sticky kind and put that on your instrument, then you just stick the instrument onto your body wherever you want it to be!!!
>
> Andy o


--0-1616104855-1298650612=:74551-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 16:19:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27FDE183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uRk0qRbZTDGOIXUUhCnwB2Ah8KzIR9sDq0/WmqMj+dU=; b=qpe/wd8Km9svYJV+C4BS591EXo1v6iGS3uKd03nhhVHhp3/5kEqbud6UKBLzOJogY6 vRzI32WP6CJ7L4T4PSgwAGTTfRaxGTV6mFIGG/6twMP8kHk1n4veVS2cUxbD9mEuHuoB aUfL531FrSImjc+dN/E7F1SUnp7qAjj0J3rSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OZtZ+ggZEI1JqgJK4ZI9uqpgf3ACIGj2i2B8yGkCzPlXQyi12TkMpEmfVx3HNPt5Nn DPcxAzlG34svMTEodxBGTf7BKQ7oiE34qVCCz2Sa/Wncj8OCDAb1wy8X9M0oA4P3uTdY 7JS6Ce4pSjj0WTQVVj7nJZZ/ByJQtk+Ec8PXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:19:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OT: radiohead (then: Our Band Could Be Your Life) From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8bc9e82a7a049d1db207 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:19:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8bc9e82a7a049d1db207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ok, for some reason i read the posts "up" on the L-D.com website, so i always read them backwards...odd i know... the radiohead thing...i loved their 1st album (one w/ creep), almost bought their 2nd album, but didn't. around '00, "Q" mag had their "best album list since Q had been in production" and OK computer was the top on the list. shortly after that i bought a copy on sale at some store, listened to it, couldn't honestly get into it. thom's voice just grates on me.... i think i would get it out every couple of months and listen to it, still had the same thoughts. (although i should say that vernon reid did an instrumental version of paranoid android on one of his solo albums that i love.....) i think i had read that johnny g. used a korg kaoss pad w/ his guitar on some tracks, and around this time i had one, and loved it. and i did hear it's use on the album a few times here & there, and thought it was cool, but still couldn't get into it. i heard snippets of the kid a & sister album, was talking to a friend about it, and from what i heard, it just reminded me of pink floyd, which i was never a huge fan, love david g & all (actually prefer the poppie syd b version of the band much better!) anyway, i've seen some bits/pieces of vids of radiohead, there was one where johnny g does a freakout guitar solo w/ msp/max i think, and i thought it was brilliant, but i figured that's a small portion of what they do (so i do like a small portion). i appreciate that i think they are doing out there stuff in a pop format, so people who like them are getting expanded a bit, & i appreciate that they're able to do what they want w/o label constraints, but again, i think they had what 4-5 albums w/ label help (and if you read anything about labels, generally the successes have a lot of $$ behind them)... as for: OUR BAND COULD BE YOUR LIFE, i can't recommend this book enough, i read it when it came out a few yrs ago....i think it really put in context the so called "indie" movement of the 80s (at least the "big bands of the indies"), most of the bands built success on small labels, then jumped to majors, which most of the bands imploded (lots of factors of course). but it's a good, interesting read.... w/ all this radiohead talk, i may have to sit down and listen to some youtube clips again....which i did a few weeks ago and listened to eno's new album that way, in order, which i thought was a great listen, may need to get it.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0016e6dd8bc9e82a7a049d1db207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, for some reason i read the posts "up" on the L-D.com website,= so i always read them backwards...odd i know...

the radiohead thing= ...i loved their 1st album (one w/ creep), almost bought their 2nd album, b= ut didn't. around '00, "Q" mag had their "best album= list since Q had been in production"
and OK computer was the top on the list. shortly after that i bought a copy= on sale at some store, listened to it, couldn't honestly get into it. = thom's voice just grates on me.... i think i would get it out every cou= ple of months and listen to it, still had the same thoughts. (although i sh= ould say that vernon reid did an instrumental version of paranoid android o= n one of his solo albums that i love.....)
i think i had read that johnny g. used a korg kaoss pad w/ his guitar on so= me tracks, and around this time i had one, and loved it. and i did hear it&= #39;s use on the album a few times here & there, and thought it was coo= l, but still couldn't get into it. i heard snippets of the kid a & = sister album, was talking to a friend about it, and from what i heard, it j= ust reminded me of pink floyd, which i was never a huge fan, love david g &= amp; all (actually prefer the poppie syd b version of the band much better!= )
anyway, i've seen some bits/pieces of vids of radiohead, there was one = where johnny g does a freakout guitar solo w/ msp/max i think, and i though= t it was brilliant, but i figured that's a small portion of what they d= o (so i do like a small portion). i appreciate that i think they are doing = out there stuff in a pop format, so people who like them are getting expand= ed a bit, & i appreciate that they're able to do what they want w/o= label constraints, but again, i think they had what 4-5 albums w/ label he= lp (and if you read anything about labels, generally the successes have a l= ot of $$ behind them)...

as for: OUR BAND COULD BE YOUR LIFE, i can't recommend this book en= ough, i read it when it came out a few yrs ago....i think it really put in = context the so called "indie" movement of the 80s (at least the &= quot;big bands of the indies"), most of the bands built success on sma= ll labels, then jumped to majors, which most of the bands imploded (lots of= factors of course). but it's a good, interesting read....

w/ all this radiohead talk, i may have to sit down and listen to some y= outube clips again....which i did a few weeks ago and listened to eno's= new album that way, in order, which i thought was a great listen, may need= to get it....
s---
www.myspace.com/scot= thansen

--0016e6dd8bc9e82a7a049d1db207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 16:39:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE86918347E; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: You have received a YouTube video! From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:38:30 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thread-Topic: You have received a YouTube video! Thread-Index: AcvVCnTbC0s7gYP5SUWCqZVG4N/Ejw== MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Feb 2011 16:39:31.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[938EA720:01CBD50A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Velcro!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9uxxqKGmYg&sns=em From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 17:15:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06298183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D67E3B7.5010806@virgin.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:15:35 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: antonyhequet@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: latest word on softstep References: <759653.57389.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <759653.57389.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:15:38 +0000 (UTC) On 19:59, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > what is the latest word on the softstep MIDI floor controller. I am > particularly interested in the stand alone mode. > > Any good news, any progress... > > Antony Hequet There's a new version of the software/firmware out (v1.1/VK1). One user (not me) has already experienced problems......???? Er, watch this space I guess. Or go to http://forum.keithmcmillen.com/viewforum.php?f=5, or possibly http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/softstep/ etc! Dave From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 17:21:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69CED183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585235927/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/85.210.189.28/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 85.210.189.28 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQCAH90Z01V0r0c/2dsb2JhbAAMmB7MIIVgBI9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,226,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585235927" Message-ID: <4D67E526.9090908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:21:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:21:42 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > Sorry Andy... but Ill have to arm-wrestle you on that one! > > :-) > actually, I don't hate anything on your list of bands there. ...but the hoards of imitators of imitators that now saturate the airwaves. ...and having to turn the radio off as soon as the strummy guitars start in order to miss the moany vocals. I'll arm wrestle ya for saying Beefheart can't sing tho', the guy had the most soulful voice ever when he wanted to. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 17:54:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8CBA183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7E64065CEE8B4849B0AA49B0C804186A@ELUK1> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: You have received a YouTube video! Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:54:36 -0000 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) "These are the hooks. THOSE are the loops." -----Original Message----- From: Andy Owens Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 4:38 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have received a YouTube video! Velcro!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9uxxqKGmYg&sns=em From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 18:32:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35D02183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HezLRHqSya9XbJGkDLOHjqafQLKLC46rZG6fTS78URA=; b=MRjIV/1mg3MIpUcxVSd3x6pCAwP1mA5b3/tSCssX2X9BQQXmyvtglbhnOKO1J5ZaiG h1gJZBnamwN09SJNoWS34yBpL3yVzwVRIGvfNxFk98b5AHYR2fRCJudee3bn+uegdWDh KlA9UW2zWNrTGNyBHBnNafLiUcKB54Xu0w9ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HlEPAVZPZEeoAO6AwDV1rBTiiT74dThXdN1uMhLEpg9yC55rAc9Rdm6vdSOfKvjIqT cuXtm1JatqQYusvCtqTxH7jWjmnBuhCvt50b9xhF78ZKjHaCK9avlCSL5up7FeohkuH3 Bnb8oS8NBqCQIVK9HBwCMi7nl1DBoqO8zfWtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D67C71E.10408@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D67C71E.10408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Luis listen up From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <8-Mc5C.A.Q1B.QX_ZNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) sliding-rack keyboard/monitor combos are very expensive new but very cheap second hand. I bought my hp tft5600 rkm for 40 bucks. - jim On Friday, February 25, 2011, andy butler wrote: > > http://vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=525 > > Hire a roadie!! > > Cool!!!! > > Andy o > > > That's a 2 roadie job! > > I was dumb enough to buy a rack case that big. > > ...couldn't shift it :-) > > andy b > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 18:41:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ADC3183474; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M9FVUICkdXgiNLmdxwX5EHbmlFQCLptXGsMCAHitggg=; b=Z3x5VZruphWKmQratKuhTHCfn7SzLjtDiDr5xAH41jj7uhUtsgSXyS+N24eXkEAC6o 8ZtwVIVBkjjKr6m9NM/wkdxqNxGzxGXadJDccsahKA4ICWXxVxFZ1Of9OUrq5SBTKGOK SNSEc4DSicfW3wQyKg8pHg9wBUv22oCoStcms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rJSrLqQlOqdOV40wdkTamtF14v0O3KZV4P7bp6Sdz4W4mEjyEZmB4U6Dg4v1QtjYds mkmdR1ZclYIGkLPv42PQcuvHm1zH733NbHketGj84Ab5OaLbhpf+7bYuWcfOkDkxdNOO j9jpK+CeeCcl6sCWPK+s71l91LletRnLouPRw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <0A82DCD6-87F4-48CA-8D04-67F45C26E816@baymoon.com> <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F07B9324A@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <4D67C71E.10408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:41:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Luis listen up From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:41:20 +0000 (UTC) oh i wouldnt buy the rack though;-) On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:32 PM, james fowler wrote: > sliding-rack keyboard/monitor combos are very expensive new but very > cheap second hand. I bought my hp tft5600 rkm for 40 bucks. > > - jim > > On Friday, February 25, 2011, andy butler wrote: >> >> http://vocopro.com/products/product_info.php?ID=525 >> >> Hire a roadie!! >> >> Cool!!!! >> >> Andy o >> >> >> That's a 2 roadie job! >> >> I was dumb enough to buy a rack case that big. >> >> ...couldn't shift it :-) >> >> andy b >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 18:51:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93A4F183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 257717.49019.bm@omp1035.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298659886; bh=+zCxj9EtVMZJXOaBaueEOFApvvvCDZFbte1iqQ418yQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=US03clqyU9TFA/McjiZHzhJF+Jrlml09QxdQsZJ4raLUCj/gYsHiOZk+V6WrpzINJvIwRounMDZ7K0Wf2TZzdn+DluYrIFJm9pnYs2QC+y9kHSX7MFkWybrzYTZJtXXuOrY5q8XK4IA/rUQAdJkZDnOBhOO3fihy5H5o3Ket5Fg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3eBMxg0dR+tM0cFBx38dmqF6DXNhwiYZHgqICeB7bP9aMizDycXdZelS1yM37iw2PewnEF2T+VMvbeAHiCycrQHT7GbpVMeMVwccbyziO6QxZvZD78w2h+0ipeIcMa/gV4WJG7+esejYLkMXobxir3AtInXdEtWLCh2JeDWvJi8=; Message-ID: <143659.26550.qm@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gjvYickVM1ndFyzGOBHl72e4Rph3.Wivu3_k24Wy_P7vbm. 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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-828556483-1298659885=:26550" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:51:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-828556483-1298659885=:26550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii pretty funny! ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:38:30 PM Subject: You have received a YouTube video! Velcro!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9uxxqKGmYg&sns=em --0-828556483-1298659885=:26550 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
pretty funny!

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:38:30 PM
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Velcro!!!

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--0-828556483-1298659885=:26550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 19:24:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A75B183474; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=b2sBxXOs5A+9MHQoOCatn27TK2qkrtfNQXMI17Zp10M=; b=BE54ExHdiJodAy8DTRPRLpyVqRyfGHUwNe+naKb7z8gTX042xWoYq9RkHzkDInkSdQ r6AqQs2yP0PbU4rzYK8Adks83ZjAg7WsQ4gPVc6RTDTNQDRSWBrTlE1QiUG0WmjPtEPK YY7HAc4cMZUjSxhEMa9b/FYPuNpZSO65tKqp8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DqlR7Zfo/WHPQ3ZzwokwQBCR7EFj74B7pFxXpXfaAyWHHILVqht7adgDOqYIYsc0se FKoLXOeOt9ArfNFcqEBPY+TtNYMmENbVBxLyNpB/eG3nRUmOI7Xf+Jac6z+OLbUvTy/E 2GXpKTpvp9fJbwEBU/PtoukCH46uNlcI3mMQE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4D67E526.9090908@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <4D67E526.9090908@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:24:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QZvN9u164dw84w8_kdBEz5VsQfY Message-ID: Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30549b51a1344a049d2047db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:24:34 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30549b51a1344a049d2047db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM, andy butler wrote= : > > ...but the hoards of imitators of imitators that now saturate the airwave= s. I think this is a bit interesting actually. Here we are a global bunch of musicians, and we sometimes forget that there are differences in where we live. I remember that when I lived in the UK I expected that everyone knew about all the music that was played on the UK. I couldnt be more wrong! Her= e in Norway the airwaves are NOT saturated with indie imitators at all, there almost NO indie sounding music here fullstop (or should I say period for my US friends, in the UK this means something else). But now you come to mention it Andy, I do slightly remember that last time = I was in the UK I was quite surprised to hear some indie music on the radio, as I was just as surprised to see flyers for grime and garage and techno an= d house. All long gone, like a craze here in Norway.. maybe one little cafe its still doing Dance music. When I arrived in 97.. nothing but! In the US, Rick recently referred to the current state of US commercial radio, I remember thinking... Hmmm wonder what he means by that! Whats facinating about this list is that in many ways (more than just looping I think) we are connected, in vision, and the way we think about music, but wow... what differences... someone was talking about Bluegrass recently... Can I just say... I have NO IDEA what that is!!! I imagine the duelling banjos thing, and some toothless rednecks going "squeeel lioke a peeg!" to an unfortunate city-boy... Im rambling now... hope no-one minds... Friday you know, stressfull week.. need to vent! Anyway.. Don't we just come from all different places, both geographically and musically, what are OUR connections? I remember that years ago in Melody Maker, (or was it the NME?) there was a really cool guy who used to draw up these family trees of bands.. You know the kind of thing... The Yardbirds split and became Jeff Beck and Cream and then they went on to this and that, and they split and became... etc... Maybe it would be cool to see where we have all come from to end up with looping... couldnt really be "music genre" connections, but there sure as hell must be some gear geek connections... For example I would be: 1979 [CopyCat Echo unit] >> surprise interest in delay sounds... went from Punk to Hillage overnight... 1983 [Eno delay system with 2 tape machines, off the back of "discreet music"] >> coinciding with Art College... 1988 [various tape loop experiments, including 8 track loops , coming from Throbbing gristle / Caberet Voltaire]>> 1991 [ 2 x Boss digital delay pedal with HOLD]>> slightly less interested in experimentation as I was famous, in a big assed pop combo... 1993 [forgotton the =B4name Roland SD something.. rack mount delay with HOL= D] 1997 [Lexicon Vortex] >> FROM NOW I WAS A LOOPER as opposed to a guitarist with loops... famous band goes under... back to the drawing board... 2000 [Electrix Repeater] >> Found Loopers delight 2003 [EDP]>> Wife bought me the EDP... 2004 [2x EDP=B4s]>> 2010 [Mobius]>> 2011 All of the above!!! God I really thread-jacked this discussion... time to play some music... maybe I should hook up the camera...? Have a nice weekend everyone... Mark --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --20cf30549b51a1344a049d2047db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:21 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:

...but the hoards of imitators of imitators that now saturate the airwaves.=

I think this is a bit interesting actually. Here we = are a global bunch of musicians, and we sometimes forget that there are dif= ferences in where we live. I remember that when I lived in the UK I expecte= d that everyone knew about all the music that was played on the UK. I could= nt be more wrong! Here in Norway the airwaves are NOT saturated with indie = imitators at all, there almost NO indie sounding music here fullstop (or sh= ould I say period for my US friends, in the UK this means something else). =
But now you come to mention it Andy, I do slightly remember that last time = I was in the UK I was quite surprised to hear some indie music on the radio= , as I was just as surprised to see flyers for grime and garage and techno = and house. All long gone, like a craze here in Norway.. maybe one little ca= fe its still doing Dance music. When I arrived in 97.. nothing but!
In the US, Rick recently referred to the current state of US commercial rad= io, I remember thinking... Hmmm wonder what he means by that!

Whats = facinating about this list is that in many ways (more than just looping I t= hink) we are connected, in vision, and the way we think about music, but wo= w... what differences... someone was talking about Bluegrass recently... Ca= n I just say... I have NO IDEA what that is!!! I imagine the duelling banjo= s thing, and some toothless rednecks going "squeeel lioke a peeg!"= ; to an unfortunate city-boy...

Im rambling now... hope no-one minds... Friday you know, stressfull wee= k.. need to vent!

Anyway.. Don't we just come from all different= places, both geographically and musically, what are OUR connections?
I remember that years ago in Melody Maker, (or was it the NME?) there was a= really cool guy who used to draw up these family trees of bands.. You know= the kind of thing... The Yardbirds split and became Jeff Beck and Cream an= d then they went on to this and that, and they split and became... etc...
Maybe it would be cool to see where we have all come from to end up wit= h looping... couldnt really be "music genre" connections, but the= re sure as hell must be some gear geek connections... For example I would b= e:

1979 [CopyCat Echo unit] >>
surprise interest in delay sounds= ... went from Punk to Hillage overnight...
1983 [Eno delay system with 2= tape machines, off the back of "discreet music"] >>=A0 coinciding with Art College...
1988 [various tape loop experiments, incl= uding 8 track loops , coming from Throbbing gristle / Caberet Voltaire]>= >
1991 [ 2 x Boss digital delay pedal with HOLD]>>
slightl= y less interested in experimentation as I was famous, in a big assed pop co= mbo...
1993 [forgotton the =B4name Roland SD something.. rack mount delay with HOL= D]
1997 [Lexicon Vortex] >>
FROM NOW I WAS A LOOPER as opposed= to a guitarist with loops... famous band goes under... back to the drawing= board...
2000 [Electrix Repeater] >> Found Loopers delight
2003 [EDP]>&g= t; Wife bought me the EDP...
2004 [2x EDP=B4s]>>
2010 [Mobius]&= gt;>
2011 All of the above!!!

God I really thread-jacked this = discussion...

time to play some music... maybe I should hook up the camera...?

Have a nice weekend everyone...

Mark

-- Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--20cf30549b51a1344a049d2047db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 20:43:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE127183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=obsqrFXssT5sRak81gRuTnqovkIQv9ONK8L5MnbbpLQ=; b=sSr1eF9c5sPe92H4sYCGOlyo2BKQh/XRFPY+KLNgwMXZu72Ci4PpgWuQ/yveBw7NUN v8ieMIJekh7jHQF2Nq32mEDADBDYpOUTXIc0Q941zkC6YjlEDV60nQ/g5IzlXAW3zQop U2Gm9xRNWkYdxxvcll+3zE1W1aAD5/kH1R0dQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=AmmAE5i4Ys/+1HQpUDEzRo0MsmTSjJH0ZqRbN+CNtD/wP8hCjIOvagHeFeNUIQxuZX HKmKtJnUOP6DR0gTDzanuvpnlMwyFclEKCdN4MXq3/l7d++cTklQGx4HrSn02FgZAC5y INjrn4VoBwb9DnmYnMUyzTAFIdBPS8QYQfZUo= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-384367893 Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:43:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20110223133819.6fhhs0tf4s488cow@webmail.musetrap.com> <4D6626AC.5080300@tiscali.co.uk> <4D67E526.9090908@tiscali.co.uk> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:43:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-384367893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HOOK IT UP! Really interesting thoughts, Mark. I would like to strive to be more = knowledgable about the musical trends of the world instead of being = stuck in my US perspective. I'm just thinking out loud but is there some = easy way to see the musical trends from county to country? A Billboard = type site of the globe? -Todd Matthews On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:24 PM, mark francombe wrote: >=20 > I think this is a bit interesting actually. Here we are a global bunch = of musicians, and we sometimes forget that there are differences in = where we live. --Apple-Mail-1-384367893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii HOOK IT UP!

Really interesting thoughts, Mark. I would like to strive to be more knowledgable about the musical trends of the world instead of being stuck in my US perspective. I'm just thinking out loud but is there some easy way to see the musical trends from county to country? A Billboard type site of the globe?

-Todd Matthews
On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:24 PM, mark francombe wrote:

I think this is a bit interesting actually. Here we are a global bunch of musicians, and we sometimes forget that there are differences in where we live.
--Apple-Mail-1-384367893-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 21:01:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50159183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=qMy5BcXjubju97hjW9zM0cgMUYBNYKj1bT6YTFpbXqE=; b=VU07Y9s0rCEzFv0gKspwgtAkIOCNqge2P42EWIiknKCsUiyUToZJ9ou11scaV3XlA8 YbyMg9Vg72RqqPQWpJQ9w5sUJ4JBFBFaixWhHEMJ3AYVVYSAQAXGaaXtXnEbzVTQsDX3 9wdk/Nv2+g1xp7kuJpMR/Ssxprr86d4Y2N6bE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=pkFOUL42Pyc5R8E2OKBw8Pj+vY1fIMrEK/klSABEAaT0zbMlShnCwlBO7UV8QdiFll cwYvEktBBK6zUcJDzxVZo1H6ycp4zHHR4pDNNl02iT0+/6zy4r1RU9NoWrhz7gmD8Vay 34eO5G9VCPoKlQUIUlPstd1+p6egqYquFn0tI= From: Todd Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Recording an Album Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:00:40 -0500 Message-Id: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and = I'm wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect = to stay focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. = Either way it's going to take me some time to save up enough dough but = do you guys think the money would be better spent: 1. Buying a nice microphone. Then contacting churches, auditoriums, etc. = to try to find nice big rooms to record in and do the tracking myself.=20= Pros: Can record at your own leisure Cons: Noise/distractions, having to ask to someone borrow their = space(hopefully for free or trade), locked into sound of the 1 nice mic, = having to play and engineer at the same time 2. Book studio time.=20 Pros: Quiet, high quality gear, use of different channel = strips/mics for different colors, can focus on just playing instrument Cons: Limited amount of time. clock is ticking I want to to get the best possible sounds I can record out of my = instrument and I'm interested what worked best for you from your past = experiences or whatever your opinions are on the subject. Thank you in advance for any comments,advice, or experience you can = share, -Todd Matthews PS - Yes, I do realize there are also the mixing and mastering stages = but I will already have that taken care of by the time I get to that = stage. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 21:05:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08F45183478; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:04:59 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (Resending this without images, as I think the system might have dropped = the message - been a few hours since I sent the original) Right, so I've gone away and done some thinking, and I'm hoping to gauge = your thoughts on this, if I may be so bold. Firstly, about new loop length quantisation: >> Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only >> Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to >> setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. >=20 > Here here! Also very limiting when trying to improvise song forms = where differing song sections have differing lengths that are not even = multiples of the first loop. This limitation in Ableton has driven many = to use mobius rather than than the ableton looper. =20 >=20 > (and once you have scaled the learning curve of mobius, there really = is no going back. Why climb a lesser mountain?=20 My current plan is, Loopy will round new loops to whatever multiple's = closest, be it 2, 4, 3, 5, or anything you can dream up. If the new = loop is shorter than the master loop, however, it currently limits to = power-of-two fractions (half, quarter, etc), under the assumption that = it's going to be harder to accurately time shorter lengths manually, so = it makes some guesses to help you out. =20 I'm thinking for more weird fractions, the below scheme with auto-punch = might do the trick. So, I need to devise a simple way to configure and trigger auto-punch - = to quantize the punch out control events. (Unless advised otherwise, I'm = thinking of limiting punch in - the count-in - to the beginning of the = next master loop) I sent the following to Daniel already, but I'm very interested in Per's = opinion too, and anyone else who's out there. I'm still pondering the options here - it's got to be something that = gives easy access to a base setting (eg. 1x master loop) for beginners, = but that provides the ability to indicate different durations, too, for = more advanced users. Perhaps what's needed is a basic default - 1 X the master loop, but then = more advanced users can configure other lengths. Something I've implemented already in Loopy is a radial menu system that = you access by holding a track: http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-2.png And radial sliders, that you change by dragging your finger around the = circle, like a knob: http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-3.png http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-4.png Perhaps one setting could be "Auto end" (or something), which, when = selected, gives you a slider to select multiples, or fractions of the = main loop. The interaction would be: - Hold finger on track till menu appears - Tap 'Auto end' - Slide radial slider around to configure length (perhaps when it's = below a certain threshold, like 1/2, it activates stutter mode, which = will keep recording indefinitely, but stuttering on every 1/nth = duration?) - Tap to hide menu Then, when you're ready: - Tap with 2 fingers to do a count-in that starts at the beginning of = the next master loop, and runs until the set duration's up. =20 Or, to start recording straight away: - Tap the center, then - Tap the track again with 2 fingers to activate the auto-end. Is that too hard? I'll need to have a look to see how existing systems = handle it, I think - particularly whether they present it as a setting = you pre-configure, or some gesture/etc that lets you instantly select = the length at the time you start recording. Many thanks, again, Michael= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 21:11:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BF3D18347A; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-25_06:2011-02-25,2011-02-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102250124 Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Daniel Thomas In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:11:37 -0800 Message-id: <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, I want to provide you with well articulated input but I am just up to my eyeballs on another front today. I'll tie out with you over the weekend outside the forum. In the meanwhile, have you explored the EDP multiply function? d On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > (Resending this without images, as I think the system might have dropped the message - been a few hours since I sent the original) > > > Right, so I've gone away and done some thinking, and I'm hoping to gauge your thoughts on this, if I may be so bold. > > Firstly, about new loop length quantisation: > >>> Please remember to offer odd numbers as well! Ableton's Looper only >>> Multiplies/Divides by 2 and that really sucks when you are used to >>> setting up poly rhythmic textures that matches 3 against 4. >> >> Here here! Also very limiting when trying to improvise song forms where differing song sections have differing lengths that are not even multiples of the first loop. This limitation in Ableton has driven many to use mobius rather than than the ableton looper. >> >> (and once you have scaled the learning curve of mobius, there really is no going back. Why climb a lesser mountain? > > My current plan is, Loopy will round new loops to whatever multiple's closest, be it 2, 4, 3, 5, or anything you can dream up. If the new loop is shorter than the master loop, however, it currently limits to power-of-two fractions (half, quarter, etc), under the assumption that it's going to be harder to accurately time shorter lengths manually, so it makes some guesses to help you out. > > I'm thinking for more weird fractions, the below scheme with auto-punch might do the trick. > > So, I need to devise a simple way to configure and trigger auto-punch - to quantize the punch out control events. (Unless advised otherwise, I'm thinking of limiting punch in - the count-in - to the beginning of the next master loop) > > I sent the following to Daniel already, but I'm very interested in Per's opinion too, and anyone else who's out there. > > I'm still pondering the options here - it's got to be something that gives easy access to a base setting (eg. 1x master loop) for beginners, but that provides the ability to indicate different durations, too, for more advanced users. > > Perhaps what's needed is a basic default - 1 X the master loop, but then more advanced users can configure other lengths. > > Something I've implemented already in Loopy is a radial menu system that you access by holding a track: > > http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-2.png > > And radial sliders, that you change by dragging your finger around the circle, like a knob: > > http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-3.png > http://resources.atastypixel.com/PastedGraphic-4.png > > Perhaps one setting could be "Auto end" (or something), which, when selected, gives you a slider to select multiples, or fractions of the main loop. The interaction would be: > > - Hold finger on track till menu appears > - Tap 'Auto end' > - Slide radial slider around to configure length (perhaps when it's below a certain threshold, like 1/2, it activates stutter mode, which will keep recording indefinitely, but stuttering on every 1/nth duration?) > - Tap to hide menu > > Then, when you're ready: > > - Tap with 2 fingers to do a count-in that starts at the beginning of the next master loop, and runs until the set duration's up. > > Or, to start recording straight away: > > - Tap the center, then > - Tap the track again with 2 fingers to activate the auto-end. > > Is that too hard? I'll need to have a look to see how existing systems handle it, I think - particularly whether they present it as a setting you pre-configure, or some gesture/etc that lets you instantly select the length at the time you start recording. > > Many thanks, again, > Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 21:26:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83918183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N+Vp1OPF8tt8lRXjSD1keqfVR/7HHwUmnbvrtb+/E6g=; b=jS8ZfuRR2C0Y2AIBTbSDV6bYmI0yUu7SWm01BSwakTzquLwX3MuDtO2hTaS6zsZS2a fmhe/UnG/N9C/QXyfXfVUwxQrKDhgYAoq9uo4mdCdtdJH2hXNflIMIHDVr0AKGlNzIAY HfEFpykSqh2XVISGrFDc7HHeqMEJiBCC0xcpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Udsv0pgKok6NQINbvL34McPdFJn11ShVz3sf4Dwx6DKk+qdkLYmgifSj4au/PMv9/N zgbJISe+BvCV9P82Ow9/Q/MpiLlzXrktsCI739uls7jA20EK/DN73vPS0k/8MvrrDGFm 3OzgBy/Dz1DlkQ6bfdQxkgvnkRk4Oe0ozR5EQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:26:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9wpi5B.A.uCG.t5BaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Off the top of my head and without much experience, I'd recommend going the studio time route, at least for your first album. I've tried buying nice microphones for home recording, but it's still a struggle to get the sound just right. I imagine it would probably be advantageous to see how a professional engineer sets up the mic, then use that knowledge for an "on your own" future album if you want. But that's from no experience. As a mostly electronic musician, my records so far are recorded from a direct signal, and I hire a guy to master the disc afterwards. --=20 Matt Davignon mattdavignon@gmail.com www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Todd Matthews wrote= : > =A0Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > > So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and I= 'm wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect to s= tay focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. Either way i= t's going to take me some time to save up enough dough but do you guys thin= k the money would be better spent: > > 1. Buying a nice microphone. Then contacting churches, auditoriums, etc. = to try to find nice big rooms to record in and do the tracking myself. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Pros: Can record at your own leisure > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cons: Noise/distractions, having to ask to someone borrow = their space(hopefully for free or trade), locked into sound of the 1 nice m= ic, having to play and engineer at the same time > > > 2. Book studio time. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Pros: Quiet, high quality gear, use of different channel s= trips/mics for different colors, can focus on just playing instrument > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cons: Limited amount of time. clock is ticking > > I want to to get the best possible sounds I can record out of my instrume= nt and I'm interested what worked best for you from your past experiences o= r whatever =A0your opinions are on the subject. > > > Thank you in advance for any comments,advice, or experience you can share= , > -Todd Matthews > > PS - Yes, I do realize there are also the mixing and mastering stages but= I will already have that taken care of by the time I get to that stage. > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 21:57:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1296183479; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hmnBPXDv3POZKCqkeXo2UYTe7bvDC6+lVHnO5hJ3l/4=; b=JTzzfI18lK/C25G0YzxW0dQCipNlU0jWM3IE/9gyXixynoiTTiSv/Uh9M4DasmgJdu h+eVqAoEVfKog33KVOnbed3B47X4PBl5a6yJPSZA3TY7IEHGk3HN0PAyPIrpbfjMp0tQ Qkjxmp5ErogQg7q8V2Rv1BT3IkVhXUqssIa7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=u5NjTrKJXXjDf0FuqNsGb5EJ1OyXGhFhVnLPzvBBzK7mgLxmHTp9RvQcU72L54koAi bKtIDcK3ae7SK7/px8v7TQgjdGze2NNgie+1AEudtiESRlaL/+SDTlcnyvfFr5BPMGZZ YcpheCgnAF352OGpu14Kn10l922VsmeEyLPCs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:57:35 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a5851c9b3e049d226c3e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:57:56 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a5851c9b3e049d226c3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. My bedroom isn't great, but not awful, I did have to deal with some car noise occasionally, but the freedom to create is something I wouldn't give up. the other thing is, let's say you need to make a record and you drop 6k on equipment, two months later you can sell it if you need to and get everything back but the cost of your time! No, I'm not selling my gear, even though i should in this economy. I'll be with this gear til I die it's so good. On the other hand, as you mention, the pressure of money spent for studio time can help you distill quite quickly. all the best, todd On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > > So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and I'm > wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect to stay > focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. Either way it's > going to take me some time to save up enough dough but do you guys think the > money would be better spent: > > --20cf3054a5851c9b3e049d226c3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) =A0was to buy two = mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. =A0

My be= droom isn't great, but not awful, I did have to deal with some car nois= e occasionally, but the freedom to create is something I wouldn't give = up. =A0the other thing is, let's say you need to make a record and you = drop 6k on equipment, two months later you can sell it if you need to and g= et everything back but the cost of your time!

No, I'm not selling my gear, even though i should i= n this economy. =A0I'll be with this gear til I die it's so good.= =A0

On the other hand, as you mention, the pressur= e of money spent for studio time can help you distill quite quickly.=A0

all the best,=A0

todd



On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at= 4:00 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker:

So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and= I'm wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfec= t to stay focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. Ei= ther way it's going to take me some time to save up enough dough but do= you guys think the money would be better spent:


--20cf3054a5851c9b3e049d226c3e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:12:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCE7518347A; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:12:49 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:12:55 +0000 (UTC) > I want to provide you with well articulated input but I am just up to = my eyeballs on another front today. I'll tie out with you over the = weekend outside the forum. That'd be great, thanks! That's very kind! > In the meanwhile, have you explored the EDP multiply function?=20 I have indeed! I'm still thinking of a way to provide something that = allows a similar kind of loop building. Before I started planning for = event quantization, this was pretty much served by Loopy's having = multiple tracks, with different lengths. =20 That is, for example, you can record the initial track at 1 x 4/4 bar = (or 1 beat, whatever), then record the next track at several times that = - it'll be automatically quantised to a multiple/fraction of the base = loop after you finish recording, based on how long you recorded for, = like this: http://resources.atastypixel.com/loops.mp4 Of course, that doesn't mesh with event quantization, especially with = trying to figure out a sane default length to offer to less advanced = users =3D) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:15:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D829D183477; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-389852670 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:15:16 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:15:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-389852670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll arm wrestle ya for saying Beefheart can't sing tho', the guy had the most soulful voice ever when he wanted to. andy I agree, on that point for sure, the dearly departed captain B could wail like a banshee or or sooth like a crooner, an extermely elastic voice. And thanks for the offer of your christian rock collection, Andy but believe me if you think the radio is saturated with derivative indie rock emoting have you checked out your average christian rock radio station lately?????? You think its an indie rock station until you start to make out the lyrics, which is hard because moany hard to decipher vocals. Bill PS true guilty pop confession... I enjoy watching american idol and I'm in love with J-lo, let the heckling commence.... --Apple-Mail-1-389852670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll arm wrestle ya for saying Beefheart can't sing = tho',
the guy had the most soulful voice ever when he wanted = to.

andy

 I agree, on that point = for sure, the dearly departed captain B could wail like a banshee or or = sooth like a crooner, an extermely elastic voice. And thanks for the = offer of your christian rock collection, Andy but believe me if you = think the radio is saturated with derivative indie rock emoting have you = checked out your average christian rock radio station lately?????? You = think its an indie rock station until you start to make out the lyrics, = which is hard because moany hard to decipher = vocals.
Bill


PS true = guilty pop confession... I enjoy watching american idol and I'm in = love with J-lo, let the heckling commence....
= --Apple-Mail-1-389852670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:16:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE31918347B; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nnnqq2zXMsI3ajmak60uLbt4u8R2Okwza3/+v3RStx4=; b=ZZtp8wtxGLlOYHOqRWlJnkOcAtVqHzWQHvF9xxfjRrZkkkPVrPwP4EyHg98xCKxYwG Pa6/3fbv+S672+G0OA+OSjtbsARvhkvDgsKlnNIzjSXhw3LCjj75WotSoqX2JUaL9uRu bwMwYss0HcPBzvIxZbad+QQVYfA49N81MclAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q9DDhiANniHZkuEp4XtKELiY4isCdDdPjAnnMufRw8An56zmrPrRAtkvLRI5KOfbvI 8czSoBxxairGbiz7tcEu2EWjQu5oUA1IcQJIvktfxJK8oGLufhgceiItMJg5ZUBy5rns 0xu/U9j4iu4aZSpLH7TTYwIYoTB32k94eWnbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:16:15 +0000 (UTC) where are you located? a close friend of mine has a nice place in queens. - Jim On Friday, February 25, 2011, todd reynolds wrote: > My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) =A0was to buy tw= o mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. > My bedroom isn't great, but not awful, I did have to deal with some car n= oise occasionally, but the freedom to create is something I wouldn't give u= p. =A0the other thing is, let's say you need to make a record and you drop = 6k on equipment, two months later you can sell it if you need to and get ev= erything back but the cost of your time! > > > No, I'm not selling my gear, even though i should in this economy. =A0I'l= l be with this gear til I die it's so good. > On the other hand, as you mention, the pressure of money spent for studio= time can help you distill quite quickly. > > > all the best, > todd > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Todd Matthews wro= te: > =A0Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > > So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and I= 'm wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect to s= tay focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. Either way i= t's going to take me some time to save up enough dough but do you guys thin= k the money would be better spent: > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:26:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D0718347A; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_X7eCCsFlx1XDSLYEAvaHGw)" X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-02-25_06:2011-02-25,2011-02-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1102250139 From: Daniel Thomas Subject: Re: Recording an Album Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:26:09 -0800 In-reply-to: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: <8ox47D.A.RsD.EyCaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:26:13 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_X7eCCsFlx1XDSLYEAvaHGw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I want to to get the best possible sounds I can record out of my instrument and I'm interested what worked best for you from your past experiences or whatever your opinions are on the subject. IMO-- Making a great recording is not contingent on the room. Or the soundproofing isolation. Its not about the mic and its preamp. These factors do matter greatly but what really makes the difference between demo and finished product is the engineering and production acumen at the helm. Some of my favorite recordings leave much to be desired in terms of fidelity but still, they are great works of art. Don't get me wrong. I have spent most of my life savings on mics and pres (and an obscene collection of guitars) But, If one doesn't know how use the gear to greatest effect and is not prepared for the life-long learning curve, the expense can be for naught-- I know many would-be project studio guys who spent the money on the gear but could not stomach the learning curve. They are no closer to realizing their artistic vision for all the $s that they spent ramping their home studios. Don't get me wrong, I am advocate the ceaseless spread of home-based project studios far and wide. Still I recommend newbies first learn the basics in a professional studio context--especially if the primary passion is around musical performance and not around computers. (Nothing kills the creative moment like mining a technical forum for clues-- no offense intended to the many LoopersDelight posters who have given me more than my fair share of clues.) If you already understand routing on a conventional desk, dynamics and time based dsp processing, mutli-track recording workflow, automation sequencing, etc... then please save your studio money and by yourself of pair of good mics, a stereo pre and a computer interface. It will pay for itself in the first few days of recording. Or, if you are the kind of mega nerd who is deeply passionate about computing and digital audio workstations... well go for it. If so, The DPA 4099 clipon is hard to beat for stringed instruments. Couple it with a large diaphragm mic like the AT 4047 or AT4060 (inexpensive but great sounding) and you have a good front end for double bass tracking. Of course, that only scratches the surfaces with respect to investments that you will make to bring the studio to fruition. Cheers Daniel On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > > So I've been sketching out songs for my first all double bass album and I'm wondering how I should go about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect to stay focused and sketch out the songs but sound wise it's shit. Either way it's going to take me some time to save up enough dough but do you guys think the money would be better spent: > > 1. Buying a nice microphone. Then contacting churches, auditoriums, etc. to try to find nice big rooms to record in and do the tracking myself. > Pros: Can record at your own leisure > Cons: Noise/distractions, having to ask to someone borrow their space(hopefully for free or trade), locked into sound of the 1 nice mic, having to play and engineer at the same time > > > 2. Book studio time. > Pros: Quiet, high quality gear, use of different channel strips/mics for different colors, can focus on just playing instrument > Cons: Limited amount of time. clock is ticking > > I want to to get the best possible sounds I can record out of my instrument and I'm interested what worked best for you from your past experiences or whatever your opinions are on the subject. > > > Thank you in advance for any comments,advice, or experience you can share, > -Todd Matthews > > PS - Yes, I do realize there are also the mixing and mastering stages but I will already have that taken care of by the time I get to that stage. > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_X7eCCsFlx1XDSLYEAvaHGw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I want to to get the best possible = sounds I can record out of my instrument and I'm interested what worked = best for you from your past experiences or whatever  your opinions = are on the = subject.

IMO--
Making a = great recording is not contingent on the room. Or the soundproofing = isolation.  Its not about the mic and its preamp.  These = factors do matter greatly but what really makes the difference between = demo and finished product is the engineering and production acumen at = the helm.  Some of my favorite recordings leave much to be desired = in terms of fidelity but still, they are great works of art.   =  

Don't get me wrong.  I have spent = most of my life savings on mics and pres (and an obscene collection of = guitars) 

But, If one doesn't know how use = the gear to greatest effect and is not prepared for the life-long = learning curve,  the expense can be for naught-- I know many = would-be project studio guys who spent the money on the gear but could = not stomach the learning curve.  They are no closer to realizing = their artistic vision for all the $s that they spent ramping their home = studios.
   
Don't get me wrong, =  I am advocate the ceaseless spread of home-based project studios = far and wide.  Still I recommend  newbies first learn the = basics in a professional studio context--especially if the primary = passion is around musical performance and not around computers. =  (Nothing kills the creative moment like mining a technical = forum for clues-- no offense intended to the many LoopersDelight posters = who have given me more than my fair share of = clues.) 

If you already = understand routing on a conventional desk, dynamics and time based dsp = processing, mutli-track recording workflow, automation sequencing, = etc... then please save your studio money and by yourself of pair of = good mics,  a stereo pre and a computer interface.  It will = pay for itself in the first few days of recording.  Or, if you are = the kind of mega nerd who is deeply passionate about computing and = digital audio workstations... well go for it.  If so, =   The DPA 4099 clipon is hard to beat for stringed = instruments.  Couple it with a large diaphragm mic like the AT 4047 = or AT4060 (inexpensive but great sounding) and you have a good front end = for double bass tracking.  Of course, that only scratches the = surfaces with respect to investments that you will make to bring the = studio to fruition. =   


Cheers
Dani= el
On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote:

Dear = Prolific Looping Album Maker:

So I've been sketching out songs = for my first all double bass album and I'm wondering how I should go = about the tracking. My bedroom is perfect to stay focused and sketch out = the songs but sound wise it's shit. Either way it's going to take me = some time to save up enough dough but do you guys think the money would = be better spent:

1. Buying a nice microphone. Then contacting = churches, auditoriums, etc. to try to find nice big rooms to record in = and do the tracking myself.
Pros: Can record at your own = leisure
= Cons: Noise/distractions, having to ask to someone borrow their = space(hopefully for free or trade), locked into sound of the 1 nice mic, = having to play and engineer at the same time


2. Book studio = time.
= Pros: Quiet, high quality gear, use of different channel = strips/mics for different colors, can focus on just playing = instrument
= Cons: Limited amount of time. clock is ticking

I want to = to get the best possible sounds I can record out of my instrument and = I'm interested what worked best for you from your past experiences or = whatever  your opinions are on the subject.


Thank you in = advance for any comments,advice, or experience you can share,
-Todd = Matthews

PS - Yes, I do realize there are also the mixing and = mastering stages but I will already have that taken care of by the time = I get to that = stage.






= --Boundary_(ID_X7eCCsFlx1XDSLYEAvaHGw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:33:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E711818347F; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=JWJfVol/SQ1iLRBABvh1A+CGR3Ce3ZMfm2QGMTUcKKQ=; b=abIwR8ZsFH4VeqDY+VP33qUNfuWTG9+c0WYwHrbxnerBzgvuknw653Y1Zhx+1BPwvj Z5zn9Djri8alUzJnpGECla+53HOGC4l9DeNmkvdEXRVvSi8J6NFsxyhYr7WmHDEPsZY2 lDxBi7RBOKkaPH1ulENUlHs3/uFE+eIVOqh7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=OhzwDhw3mqEEziWfwfAlcrEy7pXafCCOBOwM82UJddrCzznc8F8IppVUC7PMXboFZM lkRxTw6s5iNKgfhYU1iZl95iOcmoTk4/jBC3wMx7XgLaewYiqbxsLyQtwojkf1BotNlF di0MV3UC5rdw+wiIFJfPiYmjQ4x9uIbVqUfMQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Recording an Album From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:33:05 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7E0C4792-3885-486F-B6A4-8B709611CC0A@gmail.com> References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:33:10 +0000 (UTC) @Todd - Thank you for the advice. I'm eagerly anticipating = Outerborough!!! @Jim - I'm in Virginia but for the past couple years I've been going up = to Brooklyn once a month to visit my girlfriend. Probably will be moving = up there at some point once I finish out this school year teaching. -Todd On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:16 PM, james fowler wrote: > where are you located? a close friend of mine has a nice place in = queens. >=20 > - Jim >=20 > On Friday, February 25, 2011, todd reynolds = wrote: >> My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy = two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. >>=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 22:35:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83994183496; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RwuB7nICHRAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HBkJFGqYAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=UmLPPQqaYF_kHmlUoyUA:9 a=MBcFs7yF1LsQ89cQIuLKBfXfrq0A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=voZrjb6_8qcA:10 a=CURtFmvpWnMA:10 X-Auth-id: dGhldG95cm9vbUBjaGFydGVyLm5ldA== Subject: Re: You have received a YouTube video! References: From: Richard Atkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4BBBB3C8-99D4-41F3-9F4D-564A59ECE482@charter.net> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:35:16 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:35:34 +0000 (UTC) One if the funnier things Dave has ever done...and since he's not even funny= nowadays, it's a great one! Thanks for the link! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:38 AM, "Andy Owens" wrote: > Velcro!!! >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN9uxxqKGmYg&sns=3Dem >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 25 23:02:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C76183476; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-392700906 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Recording an Album Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:02:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:02:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-392700906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. And that pre would be...? Bill --Apple-Mail-2-392700906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop)  was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself.  

And that pre would be...?
Bill
--Apple-Mail-2-392700906-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 00:38:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF7B183477; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EVj3ivH2w4VnDqBzK/f8gOScGxIgLn2SCucF1ekbXEE=; b=JYcilYPs7gTXnyj11v3y7Azwn3hf46hpfuiXTKIpir3wLx9shT9++iLlH2XZU2zzOY zRQIAlIuUlLXDyJodrIR3BaeV1CLO+5UfGACjF0naAEOwUsUvtDeT2W1+4DdPrshKYFO tx7NV0y/jqLyQKtLZRqm5XIacHNJ8lD2wq8c0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FckscB8IDH+6yo2pgTBSNG0s8txf6znXbl4Fb1XkDSkZhPP/JCCuQ2VLXJHaL2ubA2 aRLc4Qzj2/eYcDCEoPJsNd/KNLvkFNKipA7rbfyG2qR8YbjzCcCeOwjFTF6PeDIsZGRu UdOUhX8JBL8IfrXZhR7XlHKVMBnXi0OOIFlcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7E0C4792-3885-486F-B6A4-8B709611CC0A@gmail.com> References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <7E0C4792-3885-486F-B6A4-8B709611CC0A@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album From: james fowler To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:38:56 +0000 (UTC) website for my buddy's place: http://floridakeysnyc.com/ it's certainly no project studio and he's got a great ear and is affordable. he recently did an upright bass album that came out really good. anyhow, hit him up and you can tell him Jim sent you. - jim On Friday, February 25, 2011, Todd Matthews wrote: > @Todd - Thank you for the advice. I'm eagerly anticipating Outerborough!!= ! > > @Jim - I'm in Virginia but for the past couple years I've been going up t= o Brooklyn once a month to visit my girlfriend. Probably will be moving up = there at some point once I finish out this school year teaching. > > -Todd > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:16 PM, james fowler wrote: > >> where are you located? a close friend of mine has a nice place in queens= . >> >> - Jim >> >> On Friday, February 25, 2011, todd reynolds wrote: >>> My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) =A0was to buy = two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. >>> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 00:42:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97DBB183475; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=s/R1wQ8ghotpgHZoqbF8smsVwl10wsmRr7vw3cAs57Y=; b=X6bQmsDQ8NbvjbNGUrC0rN3Wbf27GyVXERVusSs/XsLfO6G1p26qVzJLFx9TSunaiM OdMmjnIzIQzlaMfSC5w8qi3YCjbkyBkWPuR42ty4apkffA0qYOZatq/SwifuLlyTTzBs IAuDXtFbfLe/YETmidzkuPcGG+5USn60kErm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=Zit2uK32rMKcnWTU1aEwn7dNFjnpXBn4HmrHvQtCzjPfp47hvtP70QD6019TPpdyo5 RW2fjJ7wM4OBjstmvD7Ij6jyYQJiRvrg5qvDOf0tsmB5T+v1T6wSLrIm0rFw4NYXjtB4 votOXqMQKsVwCqNkiUSWOj9sPPHkKwVUhLzOk= Subject: Re: Recording an Album References: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-398690295 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <8B7F7C22-BB50-4F55-9745-A9D84C0325C5@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:42:25 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:42:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-398690295 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A wade Chandler tg-2 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker wrote: >=20 > My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two m= ics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. =20 >=20 > And that pre would be...? > Bill --Apple-Mail-2-398690295 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
A wade Chandler tg-2

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On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:


My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop)  was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself.  

And that pre would be...?
Bill
--Apple-Mail-2-398690295-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 00:43:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FEFC18347B; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version; bh=+E0lx4A0Ddo7LLlsqEw0F7L6sqhExhyfk+Y/FmK+fuY=; b=omx0jkIOSTrIpS/smBrHlJtmsERgC+pDLLJED2XLrKQ4MNkfkFk9ayPe73PD5o1F/9 rJmw2ie0QYM5ksZ1EsdPl4Q/65Qd46dwPg6rnTtT9APAI9AEqEnQSnuNIs14GvJgOAZP o9tOXT7EMCX7wDbyiQnTL8C+XD1ohCG+9CGNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=fP5hsnrMb+8SutMVZXT5pLIcHXIb/W6FgzvmSFD2aO3AQUiclILFR3kPF6Ppj4RTqv rKGoeSVM+V54oKpexCyfO1e0hUAIY+AExSp/uL5KHsSPI86vo/FdlRLqHB41cu+lPy0U cSXVBMcfWGwLvMM/ybOlCVi6ZVaGWoHsAgI5Q= Subject: Re: Recording an Album References: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> From: Todd Reynolds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-398749754 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) In-Reply-To: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> Message-Id: <99F450D7-CD30-4028-937F-24BDB6892335@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:43:30 -0500 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:43:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-398749754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The mics are a gefell tm 70s and a Coles 4040.=20 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker wrote: >=20 > My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two m= ics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. =20 >=20 > And that pre would be...? > Bill --Apple-Mail-3-398749754 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
The mics are a gefell tm 70s and a Coles 4040. 

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On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:


My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop)  was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself.  

And that pre would be...?
Bill
--Apple-Mail-3-398749754-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 05:15:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41DA3183479; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D688C72.3060108@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:15:30 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Hequet CC: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: Re: Velcro References: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:15:39 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot! > Antony Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcro suit, hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro. He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they could get him off the wall to continue the show. If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed for fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue) and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick. Getting it back off of your body might be the trick. Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts) PS, I love velcro and use it for tons of things. I just bought brand new velcro that is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active under black lights. It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that you can see them in the dark. I promise you, if you use Dayglo Pink tagging on your chords, NOBODY will steel them at the gig...........lol! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 05:21:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE01A18347A; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D688DD8.6090305@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:21:28 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cheap Video Projectors was ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: <9FEA21A5-0C99-4DC3-A462-47B3AD4EF9BD@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <9FEA21A5-0C99-4DC3-A462-47B3AD4EF9BD@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:21:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > FYI. At Christmas time, trying to be a good hubby, shopping (yes dear, oh yes thats nice....aaargghh) the Goddess of Loopaliciousnes favored me at Kohls by making me notice that they had a video projector that was like $150 or less, looked pretty good. I cant even get a replacement bulb for my old $2000 projector for that!!! > Because the next generation of LED projectors are already here and getting cheaper by the month there is going to be a point in the near future where their cost will rival older bulb projectors. Since they last vastly longer and are much cheaper to replace, you are going to see an increasing drop in price of old bulb projectors. At some point, very few people will want to buy them as they will be larger, bulkier and have far lower bulb life. Already since I bought my projector you are regularly seeing projectors that have twice the lumens for the same price as I paid for my 3 years ago. Most people will eschew these projectors because their bulb life is limited, but seriously, unless you are projecting movies every night a projector like this will last you for the rest of your life without burning out. it'll be cool when the online places start blowing out the old technology projectors. Simultaneous multiple projection strategies can be very , very hip for shows. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 05:30:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F8B318347B; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D688FDC.1010703@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:30:04 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Moser CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-yskLD.A.kEB.l_IaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Dennis, I agree with you 100% and I really do respect both yours and Per's vastly larger experience in this field than mine. I also really misspoke and should have used the word 'personal' rather than 'anecdotal'. Of course, I agree that both of your experiences (and perhaps Stephens' too, but I don't know his computer history well) are not 'anecdotal'. Forgive me for the error. I also think that a person's choice of gear has largely to do with what they want from it. As an example, Per makes the good point that because Macs are designed in house entirely that one will probably experience less down time if things go wrong. This is a very valid point and obviously an important selling point for him. For me, however, the fact that the PC world is a lot cheaper (financially, I mean , in this instance) I'd rather have the downtime and the ability to repair it less expensively. Both points are really valid in spite of the relative selling points of the two operating systems. Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Rick, > > Not all of us (N.B. Per, especially) are talking about this > anecdotally; my computer use musically has come about from my use of > the technology in the day job and with over 20 years of watching > hardware/software failures for common multi-purpose tasks, an > evidential picture starts to emerge. That's one of the reasons why we > have to be careful HOW we state what is perceived as opinions (and why > I disagree with Stephen on what he said to Per and about this > discussion). > > It's pretty clear that you got one of the less common lemons with your > Mac and I am truly sorry...it DOES happen. But it is also a signal > lesson on purchasing gear: if you're going to live on the bleeding > edge, you have to be willing to be the beta tester. And THAT can be an > expensive place to be. That's true whether it's a PC or Mac hardware, > an radically new automobile design or a new looper from Roland > (thinking back to all the hand-wringing when the first RC-50 came out, > my own included!). > > It's a crap shoot. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>> Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements >>> expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. >> Dear Stephen, >> >> I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do >> Per's take on it, but the reason I do >> is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I have >> some anger about having >> bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop computer.....one >> that has been vastly improved >> in future iterations). >> >> There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache >> (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality >> control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and on and >> on). There are compelling reasons why >> MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance >> (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access >> to 3rd party improvements and on an on) >> >> Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences with >> gear is anecdotal, so >> it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. >> >> >> Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does about >> the hardware or software or OS. >> >> Personally, it gets my goat when people get really smug about equipment >> but, in this case, >> I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems out >> there in the world >> as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist (interviewing >> artists and >> writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for his >> rigor and his intelligence >> in writing about it. >> >> >> I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same breath, I >> also >> respect Per's. >> >> My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. >> >> with respect, Rick Walker >> >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 05:38:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D7AF183479; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Video Processing Software Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:38:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03F8_01CBD53C.A8CA37D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: <6j09_C.A.mUB.7GJaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:38:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01CBD53C.A8CA37D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, = process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to = projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I don't = want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = plugins to get it to work. Thanks, Kris ------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01CBD53C.A8CA37D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am looking for some software that = will take a=20 feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my = laptop, or=20 send to projector.  Anyone have any suggestion?   Free or = cost is=20 fine.  I don't want anything too complicated that requires = programming or=20 tons of plugins to get it to work.
Thanks,
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_03F8_01CBD53C.A8CA37D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 06:18:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0F15183459; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/5YFvvI/dfmiw+uWXuA/y9SrniC+Era8G0t4A11jj6U=; b=UnQMxDzoXSJCrgk1N/vsiua5tNQN2LKfoifVkesLuN23veVT3QlA3Fg94rqo6BXKXE kJf8QizhGaw8e6t8lLSSWEHC/9ENfzxDak9yuI2qHBzTwxS1LvZO9cHhAFe9mgs2zlgr otjCkomN1gXcJFsdJXi/wKJpYlnPlOn51G9ZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RWpa7RaiKZ57y1Iy4+sPdmuwLVpZG1Vf1oAZoKJr98BtD/k6DE7hX3F24BkaijlNJK qZ7w3pNyxcLaufcbAS/gG+GrEqpvDr5XDgbzqy3IqmrOGmsBIW0JQHLabFZa4F3hoH5c Hus60qPU1+FQO3rl8ARzib6RwDdzPobWuD6fU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:18:16 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: OT: tour gig spam From: daryl shawn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:18:17 +0000 (UTC) I feel so stupid - has anyone else had the experience of creating a label/filter in Gmail, then forgetting about the messages that are bypassing your inbox? I was wondering why the list had had so little action, then suddenly remembered my "Loopers" filter. Erps. I'm partway through a tour and realized I should let some people know. Only two looping dates this time (the rest are solo acoustic instrumentals), but they're good ones. Plus Rick Walker is gonna jam w/me in Santa Cruz...yowza! Sunday, February 27 - Plush, Tucson, AZ Tuesday, March 1 - Steynberg Gallery, San Luis Obispo, CA Wednesday, March 2 - Borders Books, Bakersfield, CA Friday, March 4 - Asana Tea House, Santa Cruz, CA (RIIIICK!) Saturday, March 5 - Brainwash, San Francisco, CA Monday, March 7 - Luna's Cafe, Sacramento, CA (looping w/the killer Ross Hammond) Tuesday, March 8 - Studio 1510, Oakland, CA (looping w/Laurie Amat who RULES, plus Matt Davignon's quartet) Taking inspiration from Jim Goodin, Matt Stevens, Jeff Duke and the other U-streamers, I'm going to be broadcasting as many shows as I can from http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-from-everywhere. trippin', Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 06:39:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45B44183460; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1132 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:39:44 UTC Message-ID: Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: Subject: Video Processing Software Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:20:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0434_01CBD542.A45D0AF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:39:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0434_01CBD542.A45D0AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for some Windows Vista software that will take a feed from = my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send = to projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I = don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = plugins to get it to work. Thanks, Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0434_01CBD542.A45D0AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am looking for some Windows Vista = software that=20 will take a feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen = on my=20 laptop, or send to projector.  Anyone have any = suggestion?   Free=20 or cost is fine.  I don't want anything too complicated that = requires=20 programming or tons of plugins to get it to work.
Thanks,
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0434_01CBD542.A45D0AF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 07:34:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63D76183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pq8W7ltSdjth4tI0U26sKev25/L2YfyUjYpXeEpeo6k=; b=K0/kNN5cwcjwm3mhIotHU0mnxI68khWiXeK/uPAa9rYJtgvbQ0UYDdiBvRDzcvomRW 4nbXVucqOAQyuAIsdHy29vE/k6iiOo/KBRJBPIQ/3gLFZUKI1AtRgaohMKo/2hcoPzKh m64y5CLH/SwVJH/wwk7BTZaWRyFFWXuIZu8JQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=VM1Q+ejMiG2MekZOgszgK5rXOweTQT8CFH+jn52iKsN2VHjxXE+zVCQLfa6ogJXnE8 5/jll3sWw3CLRD2uHu8CcEWcIL/uJOuOm1HDTXyYqKVeag3ujqC2ODHnzxZV6UUviz9l 2AIZBU++gn06XHLV8NZzckXmBmzzr1e7GyZ7A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:34:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Way OT: Michiyo Yagi, Modern Koto, in London this week From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Through the wonders of facebook I've reconnected with a friend from college whose wife is the most amazing koto player. Michiyo Yagi will be in London this week and from what I understand, she'll play at least one gig with Evan Parker. I've been listening to this one, "Song of the Steppes" repeatedly for the last hour or so. I think it is amazing, non traditional koto music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juN6ZIOYnuo&feature=player_embedded#at=70 Just wonderful, beautiful stuff. Still, I can't help but think her music cries out for a looper. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 08:31:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC2F7183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0vCZfguPLDbIfUkc9kKy3895ld+C6z5mCgRuA+jk40E=; b=FBHJ8bPiC1d+kq4cSc7S8AAjPmNiVyoDuDg9m3hBSNFdTPtMU6If6seF/Tyn0QBV23 JpvyAud/1oTzRYZT39HI3b7C30ppNouMLTRlSyhQ1+2vyK5F7auUvd4JSzVYt5noE5Lr 6jjpyKpLFxS/+Xs6lQc4L0apmhEU0K18xNiBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wFQ2D+8EllmVcSXWazBffYkNm2F3ePWB9OOn+4DBQ/wMXMYOYrXu/Gyxt9F1sT37kn tUmgdAEo13MttEpTK79IDL8z3bdB0nHMMJE/n+bKLcLyQ9W2Z6+5v38YbVKxl7vyn4Ak j+cAToCDmNJ3CkCnL+SoeNJWez7Y7oZxwYGXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D688FDC.1010703@cruzio.com> References: <4D688FDC.1010703@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:31:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: Re: ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1t5HT.A.NzE.rpLaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:31:39 +0000 (UTC) ill put my 2 pesos here,im not a computer wizard nor do i want to be,ive used PCs for recording and everything else ever since i started using computers and since the last 2 years i own an IMac and a macbook.So Ive bought Logic and other programs that are important for me and started from scratch with the hope of taking everything to a higher or more "pro" level..The only thing i miss form the PC so far is some fo the software i was so used to like soundforge and vegas,and soem plugins,i also wish Sonar was made for Macs,i had to relearn a new software but so far im happy with logic. As far as reliability goes i really dont see a big difference honestly,my imac has crashed as well,often while im working the little spining rainbow freesbee shows up and i used to think it was cute,now it iiritates the shit out of me. I had win XP on my PC and tweaked it for audio and it worked quite reliable and to be honest i was working with software given from friends free vsts etc.in other words it hardly cost me anything.Now with a Mac the costs have risen and i have no problem paying for quality but at the end for me is stability and reliability and ive yet to see with time how it goes with my Imac when i really start pushing the machine to its limits to make a valid statement. As far as ease of use and grafic design beauty Mac rules no doubt,its such a pleasure sitting in front of such a beautful screen or building a home network with this machines,i sure as hell dont miss doing that with windows! Luis On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Thanks, Dennis, I agree with you 100% > and I really do respect both yours and Per's vastly larger experience > in this field than mine. > > I also really misspoke and should have used the word 'personal' rather th= an > 'anecdotal'. > Of course, I agree that both of your experiences (and perhaps Stephens' t= oo, > but I don't > know his computer history well) are not 'anecdotal'. =A0 =A0Forgive me fo= r the > error. > > I also think that a person's choice of gear has largely to do with what t= hey > want from > it. =A0 =A0 As an example, =A0Per makes the good point that because Macs = are > designed in house > entirely that one will probably experience less down time if things go > wrong. > This is a very valid point and obviously an important selling point for h= im. > > For me, however, the fact that the PC world is a lot cheaper (financially= , I > mean , in this instance) > I'd rather have the downtime and the ability to repair it less expensivel= y. > > Both points are really valid in spite of the relative selling points of t= he > two operating systems. > > Rick > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> >> Rick, >> >> Not all of us (N.B. Per, especially) are talking about this >> anecdotally; my computer use musically has come about from my use of >> the technology in the day job and with over 20 years of watching >> hardware/software failures for common multi-purpose tasks, an >> evidential picture starts to emerge. That's one of the reasons why we >> have to be careful HOW we state what is perceived as opinions (and why >> I disagree with Stephen on what he said to Per and about this >> discussion). >> >> It's pretty clear that you got one of the less common lemons with your >> Mac and I am truly sorry...it DOES happen. But it is also a signal >> lesson on purchasing gear: if you're going to live on the bleeding >> edge, you have to be willing to be the beta tester. And THAT can be an >> expensive place to be. That's true whether it's a PC or Mac hardware, >> an radically new automobile design or a new looper from Roland >> (thinking back to all the hand-wringing when the first RC-50 came out, >> my own included!). >> >> It's a crap shoot. >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker =A0wro= te: >>> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements >>>> expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. >>> >>> Dear Stephen, >>> >>> I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do >>> Per's take on it, =A0but the reason I do >>> is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I >>> have >>> some anger about having >>> bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop computer.....o= ne >>> that has been vastly improved >>> in future iterations). >>> >>> There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache >>> (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality >>> control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and o= n >>> and >>> on). =A0There are compelling reasons why >>> MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance >>> (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access >>> to 3rd party improvements and on an on) >>> >>> Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences wit= h >>> gear is anecdotal, so >>> it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. >>> >>> >>> Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does >>> about >>> the hardware or software or OS. >>> >>> Personally, =A0it gets my goat when people get really smug about equipm= ent >>> but, in this case, >>> I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems ou= t >>> there in the world >>> as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist >>> (interviewing >>> artists and >>> writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for >>> his >>> rigor and his intelligence >>> in writing about it. >>> >>> >>> I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same breat= h, >>> =A0I >>> also >>> respect Per's. >>> >>> My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. >>> >>> with respect, =A0 Rick Walker >>> >>> >>> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 09:38:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55950183475; 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charset=us-ascii hey, I did see Letterman velcro mimself to the wall; pretty funny. OK I'm sold, I'll try it. Must find a velcro supply in FRance. I know one in Paris but now I am close to Geneva. Antony ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: Antony Hequet Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:15:30 AM Subject: Re: Re: Velcro On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot! > Antony Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcro suit, hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro. He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they could get him off the wall to continue the show. If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed for fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue) and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick. Getting it back off of your body might be the trick. Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts) PS, I love velcro and use it for tons of things. I just bought brand new velcro that is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active under black lights. It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that you can see them in the dark. I promise you, if you use Dayglo Pink tagging on your chords, NOBODY will steel them at the gig...........lol! --0-1954398677-1298713092=:4737 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey,

I did see Letterman velcro mimself to the wall; pretty funny. OK I'm sold, I'll try it. Must find a velcro supply in FRance. I know one in Paris but now I am close to Geneva.

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:15:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Velcro

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:
> Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot!
> Antony
Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcro suit,
hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro.

He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they could
get him off the wall to continue the show.

If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed for
fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue)
and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick.
Getting it back off of your body might be the trick.

Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts)


PS,  I love velcro and use it for tons of things.  I just bought brand new velcro that
is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active under black
lights.    It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that you can see them
in the dark.    I promise you,  if you use Dayglo Pink tagging on your chords,
NOBODY will steel them at the gig...........lol!


--0-1954398677-1298713092=:4737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 10:10:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52BDD183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ha1DzcGu9qdUMLI29sbJX6aJzkGoiAnHvkmNJkcSXlc=; b=h5LgEhKy+vLw3D+1J5F2NMS0nBLBy80wrCt4PHSe6V6+ludO6ZmwKt8LWDe77nwwcu I9o4joka0YRSTWlJmBGD1ccB2m2gsfyXis5P2Bs18RrHFXanvbn0KGPTqn+KSYlYnSWF dUcUGg8G+Xg9RvHFMg7HkSvl45brfOxBn4YBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NiT20oNMAtwICbttQZJF9hy6tbglLtpEZ9WYXecQ26B+wTnWs/SeFBMMdh1XHCisIZ rTqqJG0p2OCMVc5/bYI/Yyjr/kPZSOxE+12+gpIs7a32avHYYq4mtyGajStFxu4IpQ8b qryQEQqgUjnkv6m3JJxjly5pmcXNWzfZyXuSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:10:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Last tickets for Antwerp Loopfest Mar-05-2011....be there! From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Dear looping brothers and sisters, Most will know but in the case you didn't or have forgotten, the Antwerp Loopfest will be held in a week from now, to be exactly on March 5, 2011. We still have a few tickets but be quick because we hope to sell out the place if the weather gods are with us. Line-up: Theo Travis (UK), Aidan Baker (CA/DE), Simeon Harris (UK), Kunst4life (AT), Yellow6 (UK) and Premonition Factory (BE). See http://livelooping.be/ for all the details. To warm you all up, here's a video from a drony and ambient improv I played at a similar festival in Austria last November. Enjoy and hope to see you in Antwerp! :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0smtn6_J2k -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 10:11:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3535183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VP7ZjwXjv1HBocDO6zEF8tQBQxDlz6DN2tM1QQpd/Cs=; b=RTkoTnnZ179hNr1tTk9YRjhxJzWtnIAIDu4WV3hXgmE5w/RLZVrUnqBfMjnFUUbpto SSI6+Mod/PUtNbRaBNyKeSid/L22eDEXj9/jHDPT+vv+AX0XzYmXiozb3inO2Mnl0iiX aff+1ukbXdnc1OBpSnMte6UNOMG+NRzdUAaPU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xK9wYtbGY/GcP5BKQ3wifBuSHHQpQaDlz7n+pDLLVtRhHEdtACIZnpZLEQGsx4DOxz p7zv+l+yhjc+reIW8NsOAIyhDdViqWZm2GWnkNLHsOMc8CZRwOCsM2oIU8AtwK7O7PHY TeoESMyZQKFgOHiuAdwMGv68gqcqxYi+mtwzk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:11:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: tour gig spam From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a4ff17b348049d2cadf7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:11:57 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a4ff17b348049d2cadf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would love to have filter like that tha bypasses the inbox, cant seem to get it working on gmail... :-D 2011/2/26 daryl shawn > I feel so stupid - has anyone else had the experience of creating a > label/filter in Gmail, then forgetting about the messages that are > bypassing your inbox? I was wondering why the list had had so little > action, then suddenly remembered my "Loopers" filter. Erps. > > I'm partway through a tour and realized I should let some people know. > Only two looping dates this time (the rest are solo acoustic > instrumentals), but they're good ones. Plus Rick Walker is gonna jam > w/me in Santa Cruz...yowza! > > Sunday, February 27 - Plush, Tucson, AZ > Tuesday, March 1 - Steynberg Gallery, San Luis Obispo, CA > Wednesday, March 2 - Borders Books, Bakersfield, CA > Friday, March 4 - Asana Tea House, Santa Cruz, CA (RIIIICK!) > Saturday, March 5 - Brainwash, San Francisco, CA > Monday, March 7 - Luna's Cafe, Sacramento, CA (looping w/the killer > Ross Hammond) > Tuesday, March 8 - Studio 1510, Oakland, CA (looping w/Laurie Amat > who RULES, plus Matt Davignon's quartet) > > Taking inspiration from Jim Goodin, Matt Stevens, Jeff Duke and the > other U-streamers, I'm going to be broadcasting as many shows as I can > from http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-from-everywhere. > > trippin', > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a4ff17b348049d2cadf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would love to have filter like that tha bypasses the inbox, cant seem to = get it working on gmail... :-D

2011/2/26 = daryl shawn <d= arylshawn@gmail.com>
I feel so stupid = - has anyone else had the experience of creating a
label/filter in Gmail, then forgetting about the messages that are
bypassing your inbox? I was wondering why the list had had so little
action, then suddenly remembered my "Loopers" filter. Erps.

I'm partway through a tour and realized I should let some people know.<= br> Only two looping dates this time (the rest are solo acoustic
instrumentals), but they're good ones. Plus Rick Walker is gonna jam w/me in Santa Cruz...yowza!

Sunday, February 27 - Plush, Tucson, AZ
Tuesday, March 1 - Steynberg Gallery, San Luis Obispo, CA
Wednesday, March 2 - Borders Books, Bakersfield, CA
Friday, March 4 - Asana Tea House, Santa Cruz, CA (RIIIICK!)
Saturday, March 5 - Brainwash, San Francisco, CA
Monday, March 7 - Luna's Cafe, Sacramento, CA (looping w/the killer
Ross Hammond)
Tuesday, March 8 - Studio 1510, =A0Oakland, CA (looping w/Laurie Amat
who RULES, plus Matt Davignon's quartet)

Taking inspiration from Jim Goodin, Matt Stevens, Jeff Duke and the
other U-streamers, I'm going to be broadcasting as many shows as I can<= br> from http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-from-everywhere.

trippin',

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>




--
Petri Lahtinenhttp://www.pet= rilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a4ff17b348049d2cadf7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 10:34:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F701183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585488522/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.231/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.231 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0CAMpjaE1YbRzn/2dsb2JhbAAMmCjLGoVgBI9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,231,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585488522" Message-ID: <4D68D751.2000008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:34:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (OT) More on Radiohead References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:34:46 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > believe me if you think the radio is saturated with derivative indie > rock emoting have you checked out your average christian rock radio > station lately?????? I can assure you I've thoroughly researched this ....by watching the relevant Southpark episode. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 11:40:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 032AB183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585507416/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.28.231/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.28.231 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8CACJ1aE1YbRzn/2dsb2JhbAAMmCjLJoVhBI9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,231,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585507416" Message-ID: <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:40:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Recording an Album References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Todd Matthews wrote: > Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > 2 things no-one mentioned afaik. (maybe obvious...but...) If you're signal is going through your looping rig then *that* is going to impact on audio quality. This *may* mean that using a studio won't make a lot of difference. Using the natural reverb of a church for looping needs some pretty good monitor speakers. (*good* being your subjective preference). ...and at least 2 more microphones with pre-amps to get the ambience. good luck andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 11:48:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60F8183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D68E87F.10706@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:48:15 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8ZdkhB.A.Av.GiOaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Got this in my e-mail tonight from an attractive girl named, Judy Peterson with a photograph of her. SUBJECT: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com Hello sweetie My name is Judy, i am 25yrs old, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl, i like to take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still believes in friendship,love, trust and signs, am very much single and ready to mingle. was browsing through the internet and came across your contact believe me i like what i see and i am attracted to you, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to email me, i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics to my private email address, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take care. Judy. ************************************************* oooooh yeah, baby..........it's nice to know that all that street cred for being a cutting edge live looping musician is gonna get me some. I need advice: should I talk to her about the relative merits of hardware vs. software in live looping or perhaps, engage her in the Windows/Apple debate..................hard controllers versus soft controllers? .....oooooh yeah!!!!!!!!!! ************************************************** for any literalists out there, this IS spam and I'm being very sarcastic and tongue in cheek in my response. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 11:53:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75B94183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 605204.51372.bm@omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298721196; bh=Pi+SWVi/oRkuxvzJyEFHYAGv2uSb2mrVcECmiF7PuKc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uRo8LiU1qLEEPoufeHBJ1z2BRx6s86hszk6Fl7Vc3QqlKWX7IufW/zRVfqVmqKNWYZXaGbCBQsAe5/6nyUKmQNUB5sgfL8bUBaYiKdI4PiJHcwzU6jZDAINSXKcEKPWaNNLIQS8fV+OvzopLeozO17BS7oF8YpRhJJRXLckOZFc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qaSxrC9K0NNqq5xj31Z7tXu79ApWZsZVlxUcenHUctLEJs9Z1zLcDqMCN048KSRWZcf4kCKYoihEuknqleW5fF6T5T8wBVwZYAlWflynaKPf4TG58iYbtjiUVxDLizGrYHFwi8Wd5XPzgCOZySpIg/07YCOTxvJ2oz7PvGeEmUE=; Message-ID: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: T3Ivv6kVM1neSXYDX_hXlWz5ETu51l0U6XLduvMUsA9BNZj ldQ3X9Uvnr_ZkQn.bjXdWVsvFCmOHOQ26EU9QIYXpS8RD3yg_CtbGbuaWk5i uF_UGsNK0V77AnQy2mBmNguYVmRx14dOblUl7u5d1SPuzKBeVppR.vjeiMim gXXCPO7rcaOvI.WP2nSatFpT7.WZJxjfPrShHYC9jIrXCyAA05alvNnEHKb4 lnAzmzGVOk.Q7Xi6kB507jpn76mNBFgxhsy862MdcrL9KFf5s7H7xNhxx96y lPFrtTD3HH5U4YbZmsdiXPPYJqf4mWx4nTptGzUJwxUtHlv6L X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D68E87F.10706@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D68E87F.10706@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1261594058-1298721196=:25458" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-1261594058-1298721196=:25458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii talk to her about your hardware:-) Antony ________________________________ From: Rick Walker To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:48:15 PM Subject: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com Got this in my e-mail tonight from an attractive girl named, Judy Peterson with a photograph of her. SUBJECT: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com Hello sweetie My name is Judy, i am 25yrs old, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl, i like to take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still believes in friendship,love, trust and signs, am very much single and ready to mingle. was browsing through the internet and came across your contact believe me i like what i see and i am attracted to you, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to email me, i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics to my private email address, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take care. Judy. ************************************************* oooooh yeah, baby..........it's nice to know that all that street cred for being a cutting edge live looping musician is gonna get me some. I need advice: should I talk to her about the relative merits of hardware vs. software in live looping or perhaps, engage her in the Windows/Apple debate..................hard controllers versus soft controllers? .....oooooh yeah!!!!!!!!!! ************************************************** for any literalists out there, this IS spam and I'm being very sarcastic and tongue in cheek in my response. --0-1261594058-1298721196=:25458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
talk to her about your hardware:-)

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:48:15 PM
Subject: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com

Got this in my e-mail tonight
from an attractive girl named,  Judy Peterson
with a photograph of her.


SUBJECT:    Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com

Hello sweetie

My name is Judy, i am 25yrs old, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl, i like to take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still believes in friendship,love, trust and signs, am very much single and ready to mingle. was browsing through the internet and came across your contact believe me i like what i see and i am attracted to you, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to email me, i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics to my private email address, i look forward to hear from you soon.
Take care.

Judy.

*************************************************

oooooh yeah, baby..........it's nice to know that all that street cred for being
a cutting edge live looping musician is gonna get me some.

I need advice:  should I talk to her about the relative merits of hardware vs. software in live looping
or perhaps, engage her in the Windows/Apple debate..................hard controllers versus soft controllers?

.....oooooh yeah!!!!!!!!!!

**************************************************
for any literalists out there,  this IS spam and I'm being very sarcastic and tongue in cheek in my response.


--0-1261594058-1298721196=:25458-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 11:55:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEEC5183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 433983.14731.bm@omp1037.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298721313; bh=xWiv1dSeiWseXorVVx1hidqKCejGMzdAn7wzZlFYNxk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=49FIIqQroa7+Z0qlAUPg3bYkd0N1xaF46OVMFMm4XENBnvCodU+lePTH60VHDsf2zYplzum4Lcg0U1VLy5zqAm7GoKkLudmLOnmNjfSaQheo8+dOKTkQk/T5JIZQHQ/jtItwFNCkATThNcFPNI0ab4BNQZSqpUi+VUvXwy3ia9E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g+SDLjekRDkrForRwMS815Gdm/ErUw3VJ/XGlmVzp2wgfKbJyXk50Xsp6i7asDH2Tosyg5oo+/03ZnnwTtfp9R/IzwoW9M4eqkG9G8kABntqnqIxYEy9benB8tuyappuEtf89487w1tcOpafNXHfIRaTCUMfMOP/EKBoj6h+eiM=; Message-ID: <354797.7034.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7sUAy5cVM1l753W3I_tCeAxhWDTScBfg3rqWegtvNc2mISi BP5GyBjhXRLYOgGb8dp.XWTMZSKTJP.dyLbZ2vhcEMrCUF_zHRRUOe5G031s hLkS132y4u9s70qzNYeE42S8Z.MqLYuVFwxz6_xcK761Jz041DPwWdXEDMer .r0k7n5YLoQPH5DCyxvYjCYMpNXLYv_n1aN2LDITVR49SdEy.5NgOZ1Cf1MC GN7ITqhJJvwjAInMjllbMGJ8p3qqljdV3Ik6V2k181GfGidS1U5N370AQtkl EwW.roB6agSfPX2o.HB6eyoabOzufHvisFazLPbaPFLMHDPowEi40K_DwDZd Z X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 03:55:13 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Recording an Album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1968552593-1298721313=:7034" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:55:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1968552593-1298721313=:7034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you can use DPA miniature mics for ambiance (omni 4060 or 4061 enventually with dedicate DPA miniature preamp), they are relatively cheap for the quality. Antony ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:40:56 PM Subject: Re: Recording an Album Todd Matthews wrote: > Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker: > 2 things no-one mentioned afaik. (maybe obvious...but...) If you're signal is going through your looping rig then *that* is going to impact on audio quality. This *may* mean that using a studio won't make a lot of difference. Using the natural reverb of a church for looping needs some pretty good monitor speakers. (*good* being your subjective preference). ...and at least 2 more microphones with pre-amps to get the ambience. good luck andy --0-1968552593-1298721313=:7034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
you can use DPA miniature mics for ambiance (omni 4060 or 4061 enventually with dedicate DPA miniature preamp), they are relatively cheap for the quality.

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:40:56 PM
Subject: Re: Recording an Album

Todd Matthews wrote:
>  Dear Prolific Looping Album Maker:
>

2 things no-one mentioned afaik.
(maybe obvious...but...)

If you're signal is going through your looping rig
then *that* is going to impact on audio quality.
This *may* mean that using a studio won't make a lot of difference.

Using the natural reverb of a church for looping needs
some pretty good monitor speakers. (*good* being
your subjective preference).
...and at least 2 more microphones with pre-amps to
get the ambience.





good luck

andy





--0-1968552593-1298721313=:7034-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 12:56:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5DBA183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D68F863.7040909@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:56:03 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Reggie Watts is Rad!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) http://motherboard.tv/2011/1/24/emulsification-by-reggie-watts--2 rockin' an Electro Harmonix looper and a line six with just his mouth and a mic. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 12:59:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07B4F183457; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:59:44 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Got it! So, there's a panel at the bottom of Loopy's interface which currently = displays a visualisation of the audio going through the system. I'll add a 'ruler' along the bottom that corresponds to the master loop, = with ticks for each loop endpoint. If you set the BPM first, the = default is 1 bar, at however many beats per bar you specify. If you = record a loop first, it's the length of the first loop. Then, you can pinch with two fingers to change the length, to multiples = or fractions of that initial length - pinch inwards to make the master = loop shorter, outwards to make it longer (I'm thinking of having an = option that's on by default, to limit to powers of two for beginner = users). Or, drag a track onto the panel, and it will take its length from that = track. Then, event quantisation takes place with respect to that master length. So, if you start with an initial loop of 1 beat, you can then quickly = pinch out the master loop to be 4 times that. What d'you think? >>=20 >> In the meanwhile, have you explored the EDP multiply function?=20 >=20 > I have indeed! I'm still thinking of a way to provide something that = allows a similar kind of loop building. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:27:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43F0183473; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:27:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Hartung CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Processing Software References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070606030804030409080408" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:27:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070606030804030409080408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, > process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to > projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I > don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons > of plugins to get it to work. > Thanks, > Kris I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of Jitter by Cycling 74? rick walker --------------070606030804030409080408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:
I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to projector.  Anyone have any suggestion?   Free or cost is fine.  I don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of plugins to get it to work.
Thanks,
Kris
 
 
I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of Jitter by Cycling 74?


rick walker
--------------070606030804030409080408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:30:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97B15183459; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:30:34 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com References: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:30:40 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > talk to her about your hardware:-) > > Antony I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, Antony. I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aesthetics and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm married and deeply love my wife. r.w. ps seriously, has anyone else gotten a spam like this..........good god, people are desperate to spread viruses to your computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:34:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FA8A183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 866732.71456.bm@omp1022.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=vW9GjxbBTtQnJVuMQwG0tEh5tcOZcnYvcM6Cxc0Ee7YdPYjpDszGbJ7mNtmWb0HGmdV8qmCxMw60bSNhpE212Rz7btH3OFTDRwSYCN4L97vfdLBVE9LwOSCBu10r9nVwbW7T+tYTq9GyF3wZMmJnrCoVqMjg41P0rMX5QeOx4/E= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1298727263; bh=8eqgdK1TUjtpxdBNU+ZKGwbSbylm08s8o4uToBgiZ20=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=T9/c8R/nB00YA1tWonneoI2I1vnxaKtH/wT9yltf8LPEgWCkkLCCauBZKiJPMTwZiVD2OgdRyVGYOhJdHlq/BmRZMljybWEXR6JmgLD80Ww93LsVQqLlieSvj0NcZtdwXXCrMpSqJ7fhaMCCMOePCHNIy4hOLShzykHO5/peHhU= X-Yahoo-SMTP: bp2iQ_WswBAqvmkedBWRh1x8POYZawg97xmdpCVZdN.C9.Pf32c_EWau9juk X-YMail-OSG: 94dGJQUVM1kUB8r84xxFQewrjboAShPss6hzP57YkcchOMp iQhqDiTnDCaaNSjL75D.4ye.ZERYgUDIdhpjYNTJhXdhbcUdtXp6ZPv.Ub.k 8fTpwZQ.3VDOFsRWmsSYuDH9yomNbA8JPHAG5KGz6WGt1xOEALliP0D8l0Dm RWGP_TX6iuX.KPvGmBtLEpbIJtwdVUtjv3GWMw.VioK0z8y.W9Qj_5MqxjHI 04zy3c1473yOvszlvHyBalJDsImd_6XHeZvf6VmWpF6hcmLNSrJUMbyjaaBI omiOjuy1BR_mw4x1M X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> References: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-444995495 Message-Id: <89065511-D036-4734-9E9A-55963BF35634@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:34:18 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:34:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-444995495 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Whole list. Dirty!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 26 Feb 2011, at 13:30, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >> talk to her about your hardware:-) >> >> Antony > > I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, > Antony. > > I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aesthetics > and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm > married and > deeply love my wife. > > r.w. > > > ps seriously, has anyone else gotten a spam like > this..........good god, people are desperate > to spread viruses to your computers. > --Apple-Mail-1-444995495 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Whole list.

Dirty!!

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 26 Feb 2011, = at 13:30, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:
talk to her = about your hardware:-)
Antony

I've = always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, = Antony.

I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations = about aesthetics
and the politics of = music...........that and the fact that I'm married and
deeply love my wife.



ps = seriously,  has anyone = else gotten a spam like this..........good god, people are = desperate
to spread viruses to your = computers.

=

= --Apple-Mail-1-444995495-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:39:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF40183475; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=IqUPVSokg0+42JnEl3zEKWAg3BhkbjwO5RCqZ528Sd0=; b=FdNptYq+F5+KCRB3gzpvUU7dbbx1aGUPWcquYJUHp/FKYMlXM8Ogc+W2mx3JMKm75D Cr3j9WTgSlKkrw1+YjR7AGOs52GrJDKWQzgLPYqoePOZ0KMWkfCkeNxj+AjauF8LX0mW IxXWe32c/Z+jZwEzcWN+q/tCRwZPCnI2lk7To= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=SmvGqaJMh/P4TY04w7pxvTvo6x44cChF3hqVRVshi02AjJPn8EmUTmv+96s7k/KAis L3ymtgmd/GRBi7DRFsGzQFB/oyYQ4uJBI++0dCp+PZ2dEVVf0Rt61HTk1RaZvcsHulfx 0HyGdG+ZnrdhdWq65s1SUPNFqkxcw2sF3IofY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> References: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:38:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video Processing Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174027a0ceb491049d2f91a2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:39:04 +0000 (UTC) --0015174027a0ceb491049d2f91a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering the same thing, Kris! or is it the delay that's bugging you there. On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > > I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, > process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to projector= . > Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I don't want anythin= g > too complicated that requires programming or tons of plugins to get it to > work. > Thanks, > Kris > > > > I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of Jitter = by > Cycling 74? > > > rick walker > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --0015174027a0ceb491049d2f91a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering the same thing, Kris!

or is it the delay= that's bugging you there. =A0

On Sat= , Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:
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I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to projector.=A0 Anyone have any suggestion?=A0=A0 Free or cost is fine.=A0 I don't w= ant anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of plugins to get it to work.
Thanks,
Kris
=A0
=A0
I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes = of Jitter by Cycling 74?


rick walker



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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on = iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. =A0The CD Relea= se party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0I'd be d= elighted to have you there.=A0

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--0015174027a0ceb491049d2f91a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:52:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B59618347E; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cW1yn0lgKmBj7fgxW7ovZW12/EnwJ1WxxrRm9o1Bk+g=; b=N66Wix2o3rMdI1GWS4sTdXLq1Jv4Z2OzMtQ9uTefGGbGVAHbMc7c4VHZoeg09UjT1h SvCJ72nmVQq3BJCYRaxqQJ/+ra0YWttdcni+bJsCNmRf9Mu7JO48AcHMZFaoHgFqyZ8Z 71PcNxAmHBZlHlgzLGuznGu4RQnsMT5paryQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=R5hRUjc0SpGKuP9mE+Zr8FAFh3pW7cK1mALhdx8upAQNXO0/+BvgxgF7jKF5pLp56C cq6JcjXgAWZbuXf3HgN/C3RN7sga5FoirOCleQECHyzLga3mB7OWQUarTDFJ/4tOQhay L7Fw+A+Su6inRsTIU26MRm1O8dPDyllAAtv48= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <354797.7034.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> <354797.7034.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:51:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a8482ebd4d049d2fc076 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a8482ebd4d049d2fc076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I also use a DPA 4061 and/or 4099 for performance, and at times for ancillary ambience. Agreed, Antony. It's nice to have a tiny little 4061 taped to the audio interface to 'hear the room' in my in-ear monitors while recording, even better during performance when ears shut out any external sound. Todd, I didn't mention that, but it's def. my experience that with recording in my house, the sound of the room didn't matter so much to me. In the beginning, in my old house, I built two 8 foot baffles for 80 bucks with material from Home Depot. that totally hooked me up. Problem was, when I moved into my new place, the studio was on the second floor and i couldn't even get them up the stairs and just never got new, shorter ones built. In other news, with regard to Andy's and other's reverb ideas, Altiverb was the single most important investment I made outside the mics and pre and really made things sparkle. If I really understood compression as I someday hope to, I probably would have invested in that direction to. I asked for help in that department, however, and learned a ton through watching and listening. I do love this thread, though. Things that have been said on both the pro-studio and pro-home side are great. Are you leaning one way or the other by now? I should also mention the possibility of renting some great equipment from friends for use in the home, or even borrowing. I did lots of that in the very beginning, then when looking to invest in the mics, Mercenary Audio was TOTALLY concerned that I get the exact right gear for my needs and let me keep things for two weeks and exchange them a couple of times before deciding and actually laying down cash. All the best, todd On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:55 AM, wrote: > you can use DPA miniature mics for ambiance (omni 4060 or 4061 enventually > with dedicate DPA miniature preamp), they are relatively cheap for the > quality. > > Antony > > ------------------------------ > * > * > > > > > - --001636c5a8482ebd4d049d2fc076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also use a DPA 4061 and/or 4099 for performance, and at times for ancilla= ry ambience.=A0

Agreed, Antony. =A0It's nice to have= a tiny little 4061 taped to the audio interface to 'hear the room'= in my in-ear monitors while recording, =A0even better during performance w= hen ears shut out any external sound.

Todd, =A0I didn't mention that, but it's def. m= y experience that with recording in my house, the sound of the room didn= 9;t matter so much to me. =A0In the beginning, in my old house, =A0I built = two 8 foot baffles for 80 bucks with material from Home Depot. =A0that tota= lly hooked me up. =A0Problem was, when I moved into my new place, the studi= o was on the second floor and i couldn't even get them up the stairs an= d just never got new, shorter ones built.=A0

In other news, with regard to Andy's and other'= s reverb ideas, Altiverb was the single most important investment I made ou= tside the mics and pre and really made things sparkle. =A0If I really under= stood compression as I someday hope to, I probably would have invested in t= hat direction to. =A0I asked for help in that department, however, and lear= ned a ton through watching and listening.

I do love this thread, though. =A0Things that have been= said on both the pro-studio and pro-home side are great. =A0Are you leanin= g one way or the other by now?

I should also menti= on the possibility of renting some great equipment from friends for use in = the home, or even borrowing. =A0I did lots of that in the very beginning, = =A0then when looking to invest in the mics, =A0Mercenary Audio was TOTALLY = concerned that I get the exact right gear for my needs and let me keep thin= gs for two weeks and exchange them a couple of times before deciding and ac= tually laying down cash.

All the best,=A0

todd =A0
<= br>
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:55 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.c= om> wrote:
you can use DPA miniature mics for am= biance (omni 4060 or 4061 enventually with dedicate DPA miniature preamp), = they are relatively cheap for the quality.

Antony






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--001636c5a8482ebd4d049d2fc076-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 13:53:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09A83183487; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yFHhy3qHP562kTVMByNGUvjga88OqJiZyMc+Yzv2FY0=; b=I7d13nr6NZ5Jk/wa2BoBqhPI/ZEmRxD+p7nFIsryxT3oSk428j2BiBxb/8AqNVRCIa 9hLYSFVpdfUcO7IBSogJPB/qK3XsThKRe2YngP6uPEjf2Q1DxFBWza3rUV8vdDquwf9S qLkMO5+IBfm26Ri+Tk84QZBdTc+QLozBMVk1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=frnle2OH/n91JLFSwy4LaOMQFP4gWnk7iT6gz1X05Ez5jHCPIBW94Z21/iYpgqydbZ /uB6DhABRh3zmBjoL5c8vK5BFqpGvrkkl2g93sO0rgOZrVIR3JnlU/+c0ILCydhYmcfd CZlVTCttQmxi8Vg307C2wgYYTo+AHKsr62w6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> References: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:53:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f398f5c87ec049d2fc6ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:53:45 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec53f398f5c87ec049d2fc6ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually I have gotten the same one or one like it, now I find out that she is cheating on me! :) gmail filters those but I still get them on some other accounts. best, Jeff On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > >> talk to her about your hardware:-) >> >> Antony >> > > I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, Antony. > > I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aesthetics > and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm married and > deeply love my wife. > > r.w. > > > ps seriously, has anyone else gotten a spam like this..........good god, > people are desperate > to spread viruses to your computers. > --bcaec53f398f5c87ec049d2fc6ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually I have gotten the same one or one like it, now I find out that she= is cheating on me! :)

gmail filters those but I still get them on s= ome other accounts.

best,

Jeff

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
talk to her about your hardware:-)

Antony

I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, Anto= ny.

I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aestheti= cs
and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm married = and
deeply love my wife.

r.w.


ps seriously, =A0has anyone else gotten a spam like this..........good god,= people are desperate
to spread viruses to your computers.

--bcaec53f398f5c87ec049d2fc6ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 14:10:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA7A8183473; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GPkZ22nNwl6LdignkY04atJ+fGhItizQbVO9eVN+ako=; b=n7oPIn5ZtIAgFndDwKMiomDh8nfkjFJg3Ch7gAE6TnNHfV23hk6GFe5kRTG/fctMc4 Ub167KEzGXGgdheorwvCYlun5RLnRC5WPHNUDgCl6x46Abq8N0hma8J4xKXPTeS/00Ny WIvfYvtNK0+FqMIXxfZKQzJ76A78AiFww9atQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hk0ILEZIu8bRixGXpsJATE5SA/tl8nMURcwv2+FDqybPvWxm69bCV8aZC2dWgnq62H Rk25Kq8WEXBhsprhuwWxAizheEoe+Vpq0bLeNURzMz3APNkw0OX0NvOoOTuOAGYqCRaB KFBljNCjNAofXJ+VyvjhegtwmpY9twFO4lpew= Message-ID: <4D6909D5.9000108@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:10:29 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Recording an Album References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Dear Todd, reflecting on those two options (1 being DIY, 2 being professional studio) - note that this is very personal-taste-ish. But first, some comments: First, what didn't come out in your description of option 1 is that you'll still need an engineer (and, if you are able to do that yourself, an engineering assistant). I don't know whether you qualify as an expert engineer yourself, but even if you do, you need someone to work the gear - everything else is not much fun. You wouldn't necessarily need to buy those super microphones/preamps/converters, renting/borrowing might be a good option here. I'd go with option 1. Why? Because if (should be iff here) you're able to find a decent room, you can give your record a very unique sound by making use of the room. (Yes, do record the room, if it's something church-like, e.g. lots of reverb, best with a pair of PZM half-omnis. Then you won't need artifical reverb). And this way, your record will sound very unique - basically, Daniel Lanois had been famous to work like this even before the days of computer-based studios by not using a studio in the traditional sense for his productions, rather finding a nice location and then schlepping his studio gear there. My .02 Rainer -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 14:15:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2EB7183460; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Recording an Album References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <7E0C4792-3885-486F-B6A4-8B709611CC0A@gmail.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thread-topic: Recording an Album thread-index: AcvVv45KUEWFjEwvRuqMWQjHWg9Qkg== In-Reply-To: <7E0C4792-3885-486F-B6A4-8B709611CC0A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A9C7E7E-6EFB-4304-895E-5FD6964BB4B7@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:14:54 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 14:15:43.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[A755D0C0:01CBD5BF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Virginia? I'm in North Carolina, come south not north, we'll make a record, I= 'm bored, my LP1's broke!!!! On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:33 PM, "Todd Matthews" wrote: > @Todd - Thank you for the advice. I'm eagerly anticipating Outerborough!!!= >=20 > @Jim - I'm in Virginia but for the past couple years I've been going up to= Brooklyn once a month to visit my girlfriend. Probably will be moving up th= ere at some point once I finish out this school year teaching. >=20 > -Todd >=20 > On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:16 PM, james fowler wrote: >=20 >> where are you located? a close friend of mine has a nice place in queens.= >>=20 >> - Jim >>=20 >> On Friday, February 25, 2011, todd reynolds wrote: >>> My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two= mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. >>>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 14:23:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32CE1183473; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Velcro References: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> <4D688C72.3060108@cruzio.com> <265643.4737.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-447943429"; charset="iso-8859-1" thread-topic: Velcro thread-index: AcvVwL8iJ3kh7Hz0Rq2bJMm4Weibzg== In-Reply-To: <265643.4737.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:23:26 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 14:23:44.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6131E90:01CBD5C0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:23:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-447943429 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Antonio, some of this has been tongue in cheek, but I always wanted to t= ry it but be careful with the finish on your stick, thay glue is pretty stro= ng, I dont know what type of finish is on the graphite stick. If you are tak= ing any kind of tape or glue off of a musical instrument you would want to u= se lighter fluid, which will not damage your finish.=20 Andy o On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:38 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: > hey, >=20 > I did see Letterman velcro mimself to the wall; pretty funny. OK I'm sold,= I'll try it. Must find a velcro supply in FRance. I know one in Paris but n= ow I am close to Geneva. >=20 > Antony >=20 > From: Rick Walker > To: Antony Hequet > Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:15:30 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Velcro >=20 > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: > > Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot! > > Antony > Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcr= o suit, > hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro. >=20 > He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they co= uld > get him off the wall to continue the show. >=20 > If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed f= or > fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue= ) > and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick. > Getting it back off of your body might be the trick. >=20 > Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts) >=20 >=20 > PS, I love velcro and use it for tons of things. I just bought brand new= velcro that > is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active und= er black > lights. It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that y= ou can see them > in the dark. 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boundary=Apple-Mail-1-448333486 Subject: Re: Recording an Album Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:29:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> <354797.7034.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:30:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-448333486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I really appreciate the feedback from everybody. @Anthony - I wasn't = clear in my first email but I am not recording a live looping = performance even though all the songs ideas come from looping. I'd = rather record it multitrack with mics going for the best acoustic bass = sound possible and track whatever suits the song best not limited by = looping. Then I can worry about making live looping arrangements of them = later. I use a 4099 as well most my loopin vids so far and I'm gonna use it at = my first looping shows in April. I set it up so the 4099 just goes = straight to the outputs and not through the looping setup. I hope that = helps reduce feedback. We'll see how that works out. I did notice that = I could play much softer with the 4099 since it is miked so close to the = double bass and get much less room sound compared to my recordings I've = made in the past hammering out some loud classical orchestral excerpts. That's an awesome tip to use a lapel mic taped to the audio interface as = a room mic! So far the only mics I own are the 4099 and an RE20(dynamic). The 4099 = sounds much better for arco than the RE20 but I noticed when I track = with both of them and adding a little of the RE20 sound to the 4099 it = helps warm it up nicely. Maybe if I do decide to go on my own a ribbon, = and tube mic would be a nice compliment to the dynamic and condenser I = already own. Since there is going to be an overload of double bass = tracks I would like to experiment finding many different cool colors = using different double basses, strings, channel strip setups, etc on = different tracks. Now that I think about it that could get pretty = expensive with the clock running at the studio. That's other plus for = home recording. Todd, I did some research before I hit the sack last night on the = coles4040 and gefell listening to audio clip and mic shootouts. I would = throw the wav in itunes, hit shuffle a bunch of times, then hit play = with headphones to make the test blind. They weren't all identical = performances so it wasn't perfect test but still I picked the coles4040 = each time over Royer, AEA, and other ribbons. That sounds like one = wicked mic.=20 I am leaning towards doing the tracking myself and letting my engineers = friends do the mixing and mastering. I forgot to mention before that I = do have plenty of experience with DAW software (Logic, Live, Reaper) so = I have already put in loads of time for the learning curve over the past = 8 years studying all aspects of recording and computer technology. = Probably spent way too much time reading magazines, books and forums! :) = I need to come up with a good plan to regulate myself somehow. I'd like = to strive to make the Reading - Playing ratio more like 20-80 instead of = in the past it being the opposite:) My main factors were worrying that my room sound would offset all the = effort I put into obtaining good gear and doing it myself. Thank you = Todd for the confidence booster explaining that this wasn't the case for = you. Priceless info, especially the tip about Mercenary helping you find = the perfect fit. Maybe I'll save for a ribbon mic and then when it comes = time to record I'll rent a pre like the chandler when I have an extended = weekend away from work, turn off the internet, phone, and hit record:) -Todd Matthews On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:51 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >=20 > Todd, I didn't mention that, but it's def. my experience that with = recording in my house, the sound of the room didn't matter so much to = me. In the beginning, in my old house, I built two 8 foot baffles for = 80 bucks with material from Home Depot. that totally hooked me up. = Problem was, when I moved into my new place, the studio was on the = second floor and i couldn't even get them up the stairs and just never = got new, shorter ones built.=20 --Apple-Mail-1-448333486 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Todd, =  I didn't mention that, but it's def. my experience that with = recording in my house, the sound of the room didn't matter so much to = me.  In the beginning, in my old house,  I built two 8 foot = baffles for 80 bucks with material from Home Depot.  that totally = hooked me up.  Problem was, when I moved into my new place, the = studio was on the second floor and i couldn't even get them up the = stairs and just never got new, shorter ones built. 

= --Apple-Mail-1-448333486-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 14:36:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3F3183488; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date :in-reply-to:to:references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=IGekB7+vOuwBovFSjw76oSSUtcUQ60lYtP+7tyJN538=; b=nT6QE49xkoVree14lkVsZWVlxz+PTIIYTjCpJCzpPEfqHU+2gKCfBB3RRhhvsxIosk 84pVErnHR4hJEOdhlmH6dWP5bgepMpjiUuAV64CBCJGrB+rzUbT/TqVnwRUmiisRo+G8 JoWDLqYVei4nQff3cMhmeR9LvlDQaMhcFXbSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=xuv+7zjL3QiNb0icNDKpa+BHrvMjWVtsDbJskdo8SCKZ2lYvvoqvAQ7Z2vcaeQNMEg +JN4jxbyBCypQYlbD7SAqSlI+Gy1A8eLF0yqNY+arfvBBPomP+XgfHyNIWIHcUJIGLB0 KCC3Bfj+ZVfH203mdLzLYCaSNpj7NBoBxWARA= From: Todd Matthews Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-448703310 Subject: Re: Recording an Album Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:36:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4D6909D5.9000108@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <4D6909D5.9000108@googlemail.com> Message-Id: <8273F836-5AC4-4CC3-AE1A-5DE48CCF1FE1@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:36:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-448703310 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you for the advice Rainer. Excellent points.=20 -Todd Matthews On Feb 26, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >=20 > I'd go with option 1. Why? Because if (should be iff here) you're able = to find a decent room, you can give your record a very unique sound by = making use of the room. (Yes, do record the room, if it's something = church-like, e.g. lots of reverb, best with a pair of PZM half-omnis. = Then you won't need artifical reverb). And this way, your record will = sound very unique - basically, Daniel Lanois had been famous to work = like this even before the days of computer-based studios by not using a = studio in the traditional sense for his productions, rather finding a = nice location and then schlepping his studio gear there. --Apple-Mail-2-448703310 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thank = you for the advice Rainer. Excellent = points. 

-Todd Matthews
On Feb 26, = 2011, at 9:10 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

I'd go with option 1. Why? Because if = (should be iff here) you're able to find a decent room, you can give = your record a very unique sound by making use of the room. (Yes, do = record the room, if it's something church-like, e.g. lots of reverb, = best with a pair of PZM half-omnis. Then you won't need artifical = reverb). And this way, your record will sound very unique - basically, = Daniel Lanois had been famous to work like this even before the days of = computer-based studios by not using a studio in the traditional sense = for his productions, rather finding a nice location and then schlepping = his studio gear there.

= --Apple-Mail-2-448703310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 15:00:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9405183490; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+DzjuiniXdWaoaCYh0x6cTguJB/X0vNZY9qV3b0kC7A=; b=Bber644RtLkt1VhXJFY2A+WC4B12YL60fKtIWmxPNhPIwFOZib1OuP1AwlJsEwF7OM vJOUT2GyYaXEmjjCx1luv7aPkSrmd/QCKPJyi7pquVUxUxoLT5M/cMByMgo4Mh9a138o 3sPiG4CuWoWsrqF2OBydzMVDKCHrvwKdtfZ6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=q2Abcb64KlvdXsNh2Labignq/2RlhiEfmF926GhmX2Cd2Kyr9XTrPK6wy1pgi9YdLc 59cRcFkNe+eo0m12bLL2t4+PIqZwTRko0uysTWe1bcCU8bLILV4bh/JTAoo/MCj5mVh6 Bp/WIFwkqzzps/+rAJnn1E4pPQUUyZ4prIyKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <599A4ED9-2188-4A5A-A137-EFC3CA69A445@gmail.com> <4D68E6C8.2080700@tiscali.co.uk> <354797.7034.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30433ef8520dba049d30b481 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:00:17 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30433ef8520dba049d30b481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Coles is great for sure, Todd... I should have mentioned that I use the Gefell-Coles combo in mid-side configuration which really gives me a nice stereo spread, with the Gefell providing my highs and the Coles providing warmth. The Mid-side might be a nice thing to try for you as well with two mics, though it wouldn't work so well with the DPA as both mics have to be locationally aligned to prevent phase problems. in any case, wanted to throw that in the mix. Totally impressed with your diligent research here, and of course with the reliably great feedback of the list proper. Look forward to hearing it! T. "Todd, I did some research before I hit the sack last night on the coles4040 and gefell listening to audio clip and mic shootouts. I would throw the wav in itunes, hit shuffle a bunch of times, then hit play with headphones to make the test blind. They weren't all identical performances so it wasn't perfect test but still I picked the coles4040 each time over Royer, AEA, and other ribbons. That sounds like one wicked mic." --20cf30433ef8520dba049d30b481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coles is great for sure, Todd... I should have mentioned that I use the Gef= ell-Coles combo in mid-side configuration which really gives me a nice ster= eo spread, with the Gefell providing my highs and the Coles providing warmt= h. =A0The Mid-side might be a nice thing to try for you as well with two mi= cs, though it wouldn't work so well with the DPA as both mics have to b= e locationally aligned to prevent phase problems. =A0in any case, =A0wanted= to throw that in the mix. =A0

Totally impressed with your diligent research here, and of c= ourse with the reliably great feedback of the list proper. =A0Look forward = to hearing it!=A0

T.



"Todd, I did some research before I hit the sack last night on the co= les4040 and gefell listening to audio clip and mic shootouts. I would throw= the wav in itunes, hit shuffle a bunch of times, then hit play with headph= ones to make the test blind. They weren't all identical performances so= it wasn't perfect test but still I picked the coles4040 each time over= Royer, AEA, and other ribbons. That sounds like one wicked mic."=A0
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isn't thta the idea, I must be getting old:-)

A

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 2:34:18 PM
Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com

Whole list.

Dirty!!


On 26 Feb 2011, at 13:30, Rick Walker wrote:

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:
talk to her about your hardware:-)

Antony

I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, Antony.

I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aesthetics
and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm married and
deeply love my wife.

r.w.


ps seriously,  has anyone else gotten a spam like this..........good god, people are desperate
to spread viruses to your computers.



--0-2112498782-1298735039=:60580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 16:20:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73933183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-07.arcor-online.net 827E3107EE7 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1298737242; bh=eLNmuYoMLEMlVHHrnvC4j6yXpT093UVAIEL27/PygWU=; h=Subject:From:To:Content-Type:Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lizxrPRmYzfRZt6dvFN9NmZuJySPHVXSC4MaGSJ+ed1Z2CgZPphv7HYGoS7iFqDFH YAhnkmoGMbiHxQMg1vDuX6NGXtzxUBoNGZ4Ff7Pm+7mT2n1tqO02e7lYQWoZlwW9nm aZBJHgVO6m+PJtkU/GsxDY8PSR+C8tZArr0z39iE= Subject: ONLINE GIG SPAM: Watch Moinsound Studio Session NOW From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le?= Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: <1298737279.14507.2.camel@mephisto> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Rainer is live now @ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 16:33:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30386183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 39354 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:33:56 UTC Message-ID: <9CFEA6A4FD2E425AB2729C820AFB4D88@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> <17773772.3117.1298731118606.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <17773772.3117.1298731118606.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: Video Processing Software Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:33:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06CC_01CBD598.4ABDF760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: <5TnqmC.A.3KH.0tSaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:33:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06CC_01CBD598.4ABDF760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought of that too, but that's a bit too complicate for me right now. = I need something for a performance tonight. ----- Original Message -----=20 I was wondering the same thing, Kris! or is it the delay that's bugging you there. =20 On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rick Walker = wrote: On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:=20 I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my = webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to = projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I don't = want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = plugins to get it to work. Thanks, Kris I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of = Jitter by Cycling 74? rick walker --=20 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and = is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is = scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to = have you there.=20 =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with = Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still = available for the newly added show.=20 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds ------=_NextPart_000_06CC_01CBD598.4ABDF760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought of that too, but that's a bit = too=20 complicate for me right now. I need something for a performance=20 tonight.
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I was wondering the same thing, Kris!

or is it the delay that's bugging you there.  

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:
On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris = Hartung=20 wrote:=20
I am looking for some software = that will take=20 a feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on = my=20 laptop, or send to projector.  Anyone have any=20 suggestion?   Free or cost is fine.  I don't want = anything=20 too complicated that requires programming or tons of plugins to = get it to=20 work.
Thanks,
Kris
 
 
I don't know for sure, but isn't = that one of=20 the main purposes of Jitter by Cycling 74?


rick=20 walker



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=95 Outerborough, my debut = double CD=20 set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on = March=20 24th.  The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE = Project=20 Room.  I'd be delighted to have you there. 

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with = Cellist Zoe=20 Keating on March 6th!  first show sold out, tix still available = for the=20 newly added = show. 


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------=_NextPart_000_06CC_01CBD598.4ABDF760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 16:33:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE5918347A; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7d56e195-a913-4615-9835-1323e3572b7c_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.162.195] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Reggie Watts is Rad!!! Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:33:58 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4D68F863.7040909@cruzio.com> References: <4D68F863.7040909@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 16:33:58.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7D522E0:01CBD5D2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:33:59 +0000 (UTC) --_7d56e195-a913-4615-9835-1323e3572b7c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And check out his previous vocal work w/ Maktub! They are ( were?) mofo's! = -Even covered Led Zep's No Quarter! > Date: Sat=2C 26 Feb 2011 04:56:03 -0800 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Reggie Watts is Rad!!! >=20 > http://motherboard.tv/2011/1/24/emulsification-by-reggie-watts--2 >=20 >=20 > rockin' an Electro Harmonix looper and a line six with just his mouth=20 > and a mic. >=20 = --_7d56e195-a913-4615-9835-1323e3572b7c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And check out his previous vocal work w/ Maktub! They are ( were?) mofo's! = -Even covered Led Zep's No Quarter!

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= = --_7d56e195-a913-4615-9835-1323e3572b7c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 16:40:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90CD3183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :x-priority:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=VcyfO8ECiliGhRzxlMToX+nFuq+AXrHX9g4hERHOeOY=; b=oW8J0yeuyT9m10j2nJur3CCR0nLW6yEBB7IW+fHmslsEe+aPK/lYbBX0G7p0CU6jru KW3iT9LY8CjGd+NGZqb8s36isvfge9K1VhfsdNFYFtAYD/NTAGYqPZgdd242+bWWhMsc UX7OKUM+6eH8glUelWmI9cs+dTmvezpbqDB4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=Z+zjeH7tE8GXRsfhKW5xW9fMkKDpXq05tvr5sNByFFNoQ5dYgJ9cD56bTu6I2k5zq2 j2je4kmrBEKEaU+GZJU0ZU+DeZKVaZi7LF2BpVcpNjL8sb2Mz4jz4LEmkpvhyh+WrwB7 khcRq1KGxOosXJdqqU+dsdPo1HbimKVmbZrrg= Subject: Re: Video Processing Software Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-72-456423193 From: Christopher Darrow X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <9CFEA6A4FD2E425AB2729C820AFB4D88@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:44:46 -0800 Message-Id: <64D3D711-E7A7-48CE-8132-A4D5ABCE7B26@gmail.com> References: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> <17773772.3117.1298731118606.JavaMail.root@m01> <9CFEA6A4FD2E425AB2729C820AFB4D88@americas.hpqcorp.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:40:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-72-456423193 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 http://www.lividinstruments.com/software_cell.php On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: > I thought of that too, but that's a bit too complicate for me right = now. I need something for a performance tonight. > ----- Original Message ----- > =20 > I was wondering the same thing, Kris! >=20 > or is it the delay that's bugging you there. =20 >=20 > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rick Walker = wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote: >>=20 >> I am looking for some software that will take a feed from my webcam, = process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send to = projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I don't = want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = plugins to get it to work. >> Thanks, >> Kris >> =20 >> =20 > I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of = Jitter by Cycling 74? >=20 >=20 > rick walker >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and = is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is = scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to = have you there.=20 >=20 > =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with = Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still = available for the newly added show.=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-72-456423193 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252



O= n Feb 26, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:

I thought of = that too, but that's a bit too complicate for me right now. I need = something for a performance tonight.
----- Original Message = -----
 
I was wondering the same thing, = Kris!

or is it the delay that's bugging you there. =  

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:27 = AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
On = 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Kris Hartung wrote:
I am looking for some software that will take = a feed from my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my = laptop, or send to projector.  Anyone have any = suggestion?   Free or cost is fine.  I don't want = anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of plugins to = get it to work.
Thanks,
Kris
 
 
I don't know for sure, but isn't that one of the main purposes of = Jitter by Cycling 74?


rick = walker



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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on = iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th.  The CD = Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =  I'd be delighted to have you there. 

=95 = also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe = Keating on March 6th!  first show sold out, tix still available for = the newly added show. 


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= --Apple-Mail-72-456423193-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 16:57:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65584183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jNiGpYBzO38iTLSBIxLzbMUf1i5qvN73vioEwRK78vY=; b=wekckYUALoxHU+NQWSf6aeUA8vc4xH4LZUliqmy+EfLp3DGz9O+9dG/wCoLN6k3Sqg nUNJl+tQakHAFlYQYVIMNsOk+1Iabp2hHM2i1gF4XXQBy82SBrlKTIrNC6+AgyYM/0+f L75sIXqtyeo94L8MfS3LsLEoYDIZO0NzA0/Ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZRJpKgbNAzdJTgCAml7oNb3zWg6U0lZol1RjNYbvkx4jX7HMWtOj+uRV8eN7NsQdXM tOU39/DKsNMx99WRr0ZiKo6Cnxt6/wYmh0N72/efWnyHFXy0VbJKOoIMhg5u5b4dy54/ eMdvpn+aKo7tXOovK9i+bhzzu+vAwJZiAzXCI= Message-ID: <4D693100.1070200@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:57:36 +0100 From: Rainer Straschill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ONLINE GIG SPAM: Watch Moinsound Studio Session NOW References: <1298737279.14507.2.camel@mephisto> In-Reply-To: <1298737279.14507.2.camel@mephisto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0lDRkC.A.IyH.NETaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Michèle Moser schrieb: > Rainer is live now @ > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions > For those of you interested in this kind of thing, today's session contained a lot of the following: * unrounded susmultiply * susreplace (or rather susoverdub w/ secondary FB 0%) * odd (poly)rythms using susoverdub and multiple tracks. Looper: Möbius (as always). http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12955811 -- http://moinlabs.de Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 17:22:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FAFA183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xBJnvywYPE99hAOHBO1GD15geg7cGRlXlvItWEYQObI=; b=iFt5S2Mz1skk0NxpziwI4O9seOB7dErWnnhvAiuRdJzu8uAqZPLUKoNZLFRaTjbXCi HbHa4++FGMsMz2nlQhFiF7Na3e6CE4Ynhy3iSizBfGIpdyV32Of7VJlArSHunjdwRUNR i8CotXjbrSubJlLrhQjzwP7i9ej9YuVII/rIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fVNz5lZmJbIExSiUUOyOInwLa9Nl01O0QyXqD71zblkp9Oeu5S4npDA+f1xpL5r2ev hJTNGUxLqHPGBSWkVcOY/ln+sLTr4YOMGhmptSyNdccAYKBNwB1ox7dKGcXKJsZ8/QJO 2IY0RoBTjUBlTLwJ+xXmNAOHoYThhV/UwoU/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <924920.60580.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> <89065511-D036-4734-9E9A-55963BF35634@btinternet.com> <924920.60580.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:22:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:22:33 +0000 (UTC) 'Sweet' Judy Blue eyes she sounds... On 2/26/11, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > isn't thta the idea, I must be getting old:-) > > A > > > > ________________________________ > From: Matt Stevens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 2:34:18 PM > Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com > > Whole list. > > Dirty!! > > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 26 Feb 2011, at 13:30, Rick Walker wrote: > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: >>talk to her about your hardware:-) >>> >>> >>>Antony > > I've always found that I scare women (and men) off when I do that, Antony= . > > I'm afraid, it's going to be some deep conversations about aesthetics > and the politics of music...........that and the fact that I'm married an= d > deeply love my wife. > > r.w. > > > ps seriously, has anyone else gotten a spam like this..........good god, > people > are desperate > to spread viruses to your computers. > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device *From Brooklyn To Glindran*, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin = & Peter Th=F6rn. Proceeds from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International. jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com. woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 17:40:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AAF9183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iUgQLVkqhWK0dzlTEgjimR6lY4R9Erd+PIIz8X3LOUk=; b=QkDVt5vpPcI1r1qvZVwyvC6XoDDmv2N69ASAEyhDW2S7+Lmmlpgi0+fmNhMlXG278w TvG7yc2366lTdr9zHzm/i2OVFTDm2/ZOnY7frxZSsPPg8zDlrK3F8mILujpwEBUtkGWx WhPFhIst+YrFvWq3WGHl4qCMGn5v7gLpUbD8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lUcOe5AuOui5vXtTGIRe5VvQ5J7FxjuD2p9FhrZD0mllNIxex2RddvBOE97lK8mLa6 yvYlTR3kzTd8zguCVc4e5uBBb7fc9pND7gMY6uOuOEjzXcxKdVP+J8coTLsA9uhoU2x0 HXp4mb5EvRC7llZKOCiRS2JGR5i3O160pUGZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <404044.25458.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D69007A.2090102@cruzio.com> <89065511-D036-4734-9E9A-55963BF35634@btinternet.com> <924920.60580.qm@web120720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:29:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight.com From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:40:26 +0000 (UTC) I don't know. She just sounds to me like another sweet young thing looking for a used IUD Digital Pro with the Whoop IV upgrade. Be nice. k From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 17:46:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09377183459; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> From: William Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:46:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Dear Judy, first of all, Wow!, I'm deeply flattered by your letter, and I think I speak for every member of this list, when I say thanks for the solicitation, its not often that I'm propositioned by a complete stranger, particularly one as young and attractive as yourself. though there are many attractive suitors on this list, I have to say that I'm probably the best choice out of all them. Why? well, to quote a famous hip hop tune, I have "a body like Arnold with a Denzel face", not to mention the fact that my receding hairline suggests a high level of testosterone, if you catch my drift. Ok I hope we can connect soon, but please please contact me off list. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 18:07:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64A0D183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=wQWJz9dvw5fsVs11IvAJVPrKF5OnC4UMTxIADrFHYWM=; b=BQdUpUhC2h6BT5+ufdnXfpMUwPbP6SeQI+a56wbdDAJTYjdbyAIWtX/E2TmV5qiYgc d8myv/wfRUkGeYS6kNvk8lsd5FncbReZeB7F024w0wzU+6F1YNOd6UUgrwh6SGVsIBkD B3urAOY9LdnApBoaRlkviR4jxu9T7KsA+tj6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=LSVZ6zWfPyGCDTT2vQb1cSN7ljsQ4n0qzCUYZ7Rqe8rq1EXSbtG3yJVu/cZDY3uk4S /n6zK3YP94zc7E/szY/woghacaX6GiubL+6EB0YjqXjQ32ZLByXagSBCgEWb9Atvv9Hk h6yAWxOo8GW/G6ViUp76oc4apeudfwN1TYhfQ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: ONLINE GIG SPAM: Watch Moinsound Studio Session NOW From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: <4D693100.1070200@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:07:14 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <77CBB9E5-7291-488D-9A91-02CC9BC7B597@gmail.com> References: <1298737279.14507.2.camel@mephisto> <4D693100.1070200@googlemail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Only caught the last tune but I like when you pitched the 'bone down at = the end or put it at half-speed.=20 -Todd Matthews On Feb 26, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mich=E8le Moser schrieb: >> Rainer is live now @ >> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions >> =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 18:28:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3E05183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <9FEA21A5-0C99-4DC3-A462-47B3AD4EF9BD@1800dialword.com> <4D688DD8.6090305@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Cheap Video Projectors was ADK Pro Audio PC VS MacBook Pro Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:28:03 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: <4D688DD8.6090305@cruzio.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33298-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA3FA0A1C0F02-CA4-B4E6@angweb-usd005.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:28:24 +0000 (UTC) RICKEE SEZ: it'll be cool when the online places start blowing out the old=20 technology projectors.=C2=A0 Simultaneous multiple projection strategies can be very , very hip for=20 shows.=C2=A0 which units do you recommend rick?=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 18:38:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6CFC183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Way OT: Michiyo Yagi, Modern Koto, in London this week Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:37:56 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.103.162 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33298-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CDA3FB6BC25582-CA4-B717@angweb-usd005.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjuN6ZIOYnuo&feature=3Dplayer_embedded#at= =3D70 nuf sed! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 18:47:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E841E183457; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thread-topic: Is me Judy from loopers-delight thread-index: AcvV5ZUAeKL0wrRKSHa5XN2OrOr4ig== In-Reply-To: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:47:05 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 18:47:25.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BF5B7B0:01CBD5E5] Resent-Message-ID: <03lg0D.A.JPC.-qUaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Judy, dont let these loopers guys fool you with all their talk of testostero= ne and great bods, remember they are loopers, which means they just do the s= ame things, over and over and over and over again, and to do this they utili= ze all kinds of artificial tools and gimmicks, which I am sure a sweet girl l= ike you is not into, me on the other hand, I am an organic bluegrass banjo p= layer and remember, banjo players have faster fingers!!! Andy o= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 18:57:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0123183464; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Gans In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:57:47 -0800 Cc: David Gans Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC) And I am a songwriter first and foremost. I know how to use repetition = to build tension, and I know when to let go! On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Andy Owens wrote: > Judy, dont let these loopers guys fool you with all their talk of = testosterone and great bods, remember they are loopers, which means they = just do the same things, over and over and over and over again, and to = do this they utilize all kinds of artificial tools and gimmicks, which I = am sure a sweet girl like you is not into, me on the other hand, I am an = organic bluegrass banjo player and remember, banjo players have faster = fingers!!! David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 19:00:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5D48183460; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thread-topic: Is me Judy from loopers-delight thread-index: AcvV51qzllz0t69IRqmCHxE4HwDtCQ== In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:59:46 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 19:00:25.0841 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D517E10:01CBD5E7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Yeah but I heard he is just Dead in the bed!!!! Ao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 19:02:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 019D518347B; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: me@timthompson.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:27 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2CxDcIZKlg_S3gbrT0AN45ZcwCk Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video Processing Software From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC) > I am looking for some Windows Vista software that will take a feed from = =3D > my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send = =3D > to projector. =A0Anyone have any suggestion? =A0 Free or cost is fine. = =A0I =3D > don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = =3D > plugins to get it to work. Two inexpensive ones that appear to satisfy your requirements: Cell - http://lividinstruments.com/software_cell.php . I haven't used this one, but it looks appropriate, and Peter Nyboer is the developer and used to be (and may still be) on this mailing list. CL Studio Lite - http://codelaboratories.com/projects/view/studio/overview/ Both have demo versions you can try. If price is not a barrier, Salvation - http://www.harrisondigitalmedia.com/ - is the most straightforward but powerful video tool I've used. Unfortunately, the smaller version (Salvation MX) doesn't appear to have camera input. ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 19:26:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6BA9183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BM0F24q6yRdxNgUpyRGfuQcuFnVecSUt5rS34K4lqlo=; b=UwqlNKfkG7mtxXkHmSzjACLdDAlmjtJH16ZT+IgTdKH1CefQGfRM2xCG4AJ51fQYYZ pMkZWU+Id1wkNg6LIgkhIy76y+5DMHE44PBldKoJlGHYUfrbPWdToYKJmuw7Jg8oZ6mE mUK5jQeSUutOxdg1opEOTTGgdhVATF9lXSAbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mpha/A2uH4O403LCYyMF0p08z17NkFUO9fY8g4Nhg0TrfV70JaefwHTOwVndV8MM2I ethiO8LHRKjuuqIcN6w4cMoRa/DdEkEgvxi76JiKlou4T7Bc9WsBX/1zKchbLzgildrz w6AJPexv0gGqQaS0v1t2KTYdUI6Yly6b0NCuE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D67BB2A.5020501@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4D66B155.16711.251FBA1@nick.1957.me.uk> <4D67BB2A.5020501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 'nother edp video From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <64LDJB.A.iLD.ZPVaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Big thanks for these, Nick! And to Andy for the 'expansion'. I just got my first EDP a little over a week ago -whiteface L III v 5 in mint shape. YIPEEE!!! I'm watching these and eating nails while my Loop IV upgrade languishes in the black hole of Canadian Customs. I love Mobius dearly, but it's s-o-o-o nice to get away from the computer! k From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 19:37:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16018183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5B4C0CE9F517431BA10ACA36775580A6@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> <17773772.3117.1298731118606.JavaMail.root@m01> <9CFEA6A4FD2E425AB2729C820AFB4D88@americas.hpqcorp.net> <30929908.5365.1298742973126.JavaMail.root@m01> In-Reply-To: <30929908.5365.1298742973126.JavaMail.root@m01> Subject: Re: Video Processing Software Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:37:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) I have Vizzie up and running. Just trying to randomize video effects now. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 20:37:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DE6E183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=d1eoqggt7o/9vP7CpbnCO3tVlbG1RIauFq2pZZj2arc=; b=N1FAdd0cLiTp/HGoTBbVGORzwsxyKHJzWKRSI5q1RkgWxr1VeXnF6jjgbicrRWYm2N MEAEAf/AJZ7sr4CilozlpL65LyeumwSOykKtWteqPZi7i6/aWOz00QE40ypXmdUDiNV7 oGSzBTAMAP/X2bagN5Z5hXQS7kdHTzgyrLMkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=jGaD+MMYr20iD9Xk5SEUzPzDG0eB1LsHTCYr3N9hO7yBAFUv6f6ZVDJLCUOWMn4MjY mk2Vx1ea2it33VKHhPyYAwSuJufydjMSN2k57FxhAWo1KCnhdTpxc1H6iO6qtZqleILy XsLMXx0tsCoKONpOFOCZycy0nkmzlHaRxRJnY= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight From: Todd Matthews In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:37:18 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06382F51-F63E-4743-8D31-FF58E76D0DCE@gmail.com> References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Dear Judy,=20 Don't waste your time with them. It only takes me a few overdubs before = I clip On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David Gans wrote: > And I am a songwriter first and foremost. I know how to use = repetition to build tension, and I know when to let go! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 20:59:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33224183465; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Bfwe+gg0RCU7QD8Jit5Af0f8LIjZidjXIkwfzOj99rM=; b=NsscCsdOQaMFZgeFz3wOkAzMOuB/A+k4MLuK3Z4ynTfydUHozVffzaXDGrtv9HZPLs vcbICZsD8eKVHqPnArluAuyt0WwLpUane05Iae9NHkbrL9cS8oYO8BEWG9CZnANoscbp 7gWy0zS+vQf9Kdz08zmiNSmi9nVvucwbzkA+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xG/lfSlwb6HM04Z71CeektCazw/gcnX2krW8sZwhNa2razLjHDiP73dQ2SvFdbM0Ri xKbQzD0fjLv9tWant26SpUkZ4tkFQwTEgmorMsfraqMhRZIpNzcBqc+Eey1PtCa90EV5 9MvgYh3hf/czas0hy8pzM2YJS7kfmMT3lSEZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06382F51-F63E-4743-8D31-FF58E76D0DCE@gmail.com> References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> <06382F51-F63E-4743-8D31-FF58E76D0DCE@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:59:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a2b3b8cac0049d35b914 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:59:44 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a2b3b8cac0049d35b914 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, Judy got into the loop. They just use her over and over and then they overdub with something new. What a bunch of heartless Don Juans! 2011/2/26 Todd Matthews > Dear Judy, > Don't waste your time with them. It only takes me a few overdubs before I > clip > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David Gans wrote: > > And I am a songwriter first and foremost. I know how to use repetition > to build tension, and I know when to let go! > > > > > > > -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf3054a2b3b8cac0049d35b914 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, Judy got into the loop.

They just use her over and over and then they overdub with something new.
What a bunch of heartless Don Juans!



2011/2/26 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Dear Judy,
Don't waste your time with them. It only takes me a few overdubs before= I clip

On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David Gans wrote:
> And I am a songwriter first and foremost. =A0I know how to use repetit= ion to build tension, and I know when to let go!









--
Petri Lahti= nen
http://ww= w.petrilahtinen.com
http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://so= undcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
http://petrilahtinen.ba= ndcamp.com/
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"Only become pr= ofessional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
--------= -------------------------------------------
"Some people never go c= razy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-
--20cf3054a2b3b8cac0049d35b914-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:00:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 090D3183475; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 565155.93463.bm@omp1038.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298754017; bh=ELuxWEaYpBldDkhMfkGzPqLtMu2+dTQWT4TH46d61j8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MH23wrBi7/YYF9TStg+iGOfZECZIeXRrIYbdopPPyr8wsV+9WMSg9sWhPj3ShiYKBTR4NQeMCB502mYtsm20sUwzuWIWG7ETleAI0+rrrieJL7ToqjkeEPNcVmkFgdjc7MpNyRXfUkKyRB+CKliLwCkRKl9Ykz3byzacC5j6KWg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5VDnW6YbWagTAUuzJueh7CDPgc2uZNj5SY8sm9fb+yz2uYctUyNtLoYu6gUjVzIY3fwf0UYSNXu6HjOo4bjIY9v2tiaozgB7g5Tkrn5dApnS1cBOjOMAmlUMVIVFOOikXkKj+09i0NLsBbj3MM4aRUEAT/TwJA+uTzDhaflUFLQ=; Message-ID: <474731.21170.qm@web120707.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fbfZWroVM1lxW.aWm366pMIK2AEJvqn4h7jJp6bNvKg8OJf RGHbTqnjqZKsjtqjtJFqS1MbqDiVQ14OYhld8D0jElh27NPbJULfU7HLTXFY H8nfvzCUUGrBvAmv_08ctD1loNMMrH4BvuK1zsD7tmri4MVaz6CNmYM6Y76v lyfoLHHblih3cqYI.iQHpXonjg7UyLUeo64S1NAgvbTXA0w5UywahwCTHG1o zw6c3DAvthg2fjkutlxKd.Qh_z8ic0u9h4B9OqCcxvPfLAQ5siFmqvUvXXpe j6CEzp7k5shrCPphdR700k23pKx0T4Mglt46kUzX0IGDL23E7ft8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <837012FC-6792-4BC4-AF7F-95C7BB7A6D17@baymoon.com> <06382F51-F63E-4743-8D31-FF58E76D0DCE@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <06382F51-F63E-4743-8D31-FF58E76D0DCE@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1602218360-1298754017=:21170" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:00:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-1602218360-1298754017=:21170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable forget all those guys: =0Ach=E9rie, je suis fran=E7ais I'm french!=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Todd Matthews =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sat, February 26, 2= 011 9:37:18 PM=0ASubject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight=0A=0ADear Jud= y, =0ADon't waste your time with them. It only takes me a few overdubs befo= re I clip=0A=0AOn Feb 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David Gans wrote:=0A> And I am = a songwriter first and foremost. I know how to use repetition to =0A>build= tension, and I know when to let go!=0A=0A=0A --0-1602218360-1298754017=:21170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
forget all those guys: 
ch=E9rie, je suis fran=E7a= is I'm french!

From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthe= ws@gmail.com>
To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
= Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 9:37:18 PM
Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight
=0ADear Judy,
Don't waste your time with them. It only take= s me a few overdubs before I clip

On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:57 PM, David= Gans wrote:
> And I am a songwriter first and foremost.  I know= how to use repetition to build tension, and I know when to let go!

=




=0A=0A= =0A

=0A=0A --0-1602218360-1298754017=:21170-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:23:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF086183461; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D696F5F.5000702@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:23:43 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Darrow CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Video Processing Software References: <64D3D711-E7A7-48CE-8132-A4D5ABCE7B26@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64D3D711-E7A7-48CE-8132-A4D5ABCE7B26@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:23:51 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Christopher Darrow wrote: http://www.lividinstruments.com/software_cell.php Oh, that looks wicked. Thanks for the link, Christopher! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:27:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC90183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:27:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Owens CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> In-Reply-To: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Oh god, I had the best idea. If only I had millions of dollars and was extraordinarily frivilous. I'd just fly everyone in so that we could...... locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same time with flowers and chocolates...................and video tape the mayhem that ensues. "me, Judy, me......................no, me, judy, I'm the one......................judy, judy, judy" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:34:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E03518347B; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_847bc486-e0b2-4a79-853b-0398a3704ace_" X-Originating-IP: [173.131.43.125] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: OT: FRO vs SXSW Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:34 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 21:34:34.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[F61112A0:01CBD5FC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) --_847bc486-e0b2-4a79-853b-0398a3704ace_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable waddup guys ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in- recorded video of my drive from St louis=2C mo to austin TX and time lapsed= it- background music is one of my songs called overdrawn enjoy! The Wandering Madman=20 = --_847bc486-e0b2-4a79-853b-0398a3704ace_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
waddup guys

ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all= feel like tuning in-
recorded video of my drive from St louis=2C mo to = austin TX and time lapsed it-

background music is one of my songs ca= lled overdrawn

enjoy!


The= Wandering Madman

= --_847bc486-e0b2-4a79-853b-0398a3704ace_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:37:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F46183485; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW References: From: "Andy Owens" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-473925133"; charset="iso-8859-1" thread-topic: OT: FRO vs SXSW thread-index: AcvV/T3AZDN8IO2sTC+chK2TJYLaEQ== In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59AA33C6-DE64-4B4C-A78C-281EE8FDC17D@1800dialword.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:36:28 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2011 21:37:01.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[4DB91B10:01CBD5FD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:37:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-473925133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are you playing down there fro? Thinking about going.=20 Andy=20 On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:34 PM, "FRO DIDDLY" wrote: >=20 > waddup guys >=20 > ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in- > recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time lapsed i= t- >=20 > background music is one of my songs called overdrawn >=20 > enjoy! >=20 >=20 > The Wandering Madman=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-4-473925133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Are you playing down there fro? Thinking about going. 

Andy 



On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:34 PM, "FRO DIDDLY" <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:


waddup guys

ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in-
recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time lapsed it-

background music is one of my songs called overdrawn

enjoy!


The Wandering Madman

--Apple-Mail-4-473925133-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:42:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD53118347B; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight From: David Gans In-Reply-To: <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:42:06 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <4xD_J.A.JSG.7OXaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Wait. You think she exists? On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 21:58:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63D48183474; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:58:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.5 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_50,FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2,RDNS_DYNAMIC,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on obf1.tritico.net X-Spam-Level: **** Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:58:40 +0000 (UTC) My index finger is blistered from the constant repetition of hitting 'delete' concerning this thread. :-) Raisin Bran, Rev.Fever Portland, OR On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Gans wrote: > > > Wait. You think she exists? > > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 22:07:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89E18183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298758017; bh=1MUV6fE6rwbtV7AlEEoXkksiyvcg/emPcvxe/Fi4r34=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1JCi8TyNpH6i9pSHYemG0j4cx2uNO+Yv8hRRAD+dAd7ufn0rHwFnp9KFRFx3REtJWU//KXtNgurgXfUcZRZ8s+wGcuPGQbNYCj6AmDY+g4EjFpESfNwiART8QsdsL9zuJx5vxSG19k3Rzg80oHV2651m9PQ8iCpgGy5ekl9nRXk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pw9kb07StygMg3564bO3CTLzutSREn+QAbjDz4PAy0J6UWdaDRKYrvVi0VzqFU4mbsuMOp1tuxby0j4tUHJqWy+VC9lsXDrewcPoLTLn4icgm0rV+QUjlA+ewclSeaoSiMUtXxMN+WfVXrSl63zJG5125z41WyZ8H7z6q9kJ2sQ=; Message-ID: <447060.51708.qm@web120711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Wtagzj8VM1kovHqd9_fkPQCjEQ.DSrxt6sdAyjYULIYLi.. 8duidw9pqjkIMyOIge2xSpA3dz29nRpPE305rd_tmXl54Typ_iO_opeFRmQi PSs.HL1VO.fGtLFUFgEN6hflj44MLfDy0.q.eAPN5FdXcWcdIwVh8AaO4oP. 68WXAAlVkXr0Z_PyyOA3XPCROrDuFM0j71WS1ZhHr45HDLjcUAfZM1pjjM6G XNkR6zA18NhoCvor9YralDvspx6t8KXFNOsuyLkT1fgFLNNiHeU0TsF8VXtg S90Xkc91Pp0iZfJNskyBMXeAuUO8V3OFJWd_zxDPW_tVaMKs- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <5BEC16A8-846A-4286-B70A-853BDADBC2B4@yahoo.com> <4D688C72.3060108@cruzio.com> <265643.4737.qm@web120708.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:06:57 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Velcro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1326762354-1298758017=:51708" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:07:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1326762354-1298758017=:51708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would glue the velcro to the belt hook, methinks and take no chance of damaging my carbon stick:-) A ________________________________ From: Andy Owens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:23:26 PM Subject: Re: Velcro Hey Antonio, some of this has been tongue in cheek, but I always wanted to try it but be careful with the finish on your stick, thay glue is pretty strong, I dont know what type of finish is on the graphite stick. If you are taking any kind of tape or glue off of a musical instrument you would want to use lighter fluid, which will not damage your finish. Andy o On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:38 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" wrote: hey, > > >I did see Letterman velcro mimself to the wall; pretty funny. OK I'm sold, I'll >try it. Must find a velcro supply in FRance. I know one in Paris but now I am >close to Geneva. > > >Antony > > > ________________________________ From: Rick Walker >To: Antony Hequet >Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" >Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:15:30 AM >Subject: Re: Re: Velcro > >On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote: >> Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot! >> Antony >Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcro >suit, >hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro. > >He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they could >get him off the wall to continue the show. > >If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed for >fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue) >and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick. >Getting it back off of your body might be the trick. > >Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts) > > >PS, I love velcro and use it for tons of things. I just bought brand new >velcro that >is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active under >black >lights. It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that you can >see them >in the dark. I promise you, if you use Dayglo Pink tagging on your chords, >NOBODY will steel them at the gig...........lol! > > > --0-1326762354-1298758017=:51708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I would glue the velcro to the belt hook, methinks and take no chance of damaging my carbon stick:-)

A

From: Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 3:23:26 PM
Subject: Re: Velcro

Hey Antonio, some of this has been tongue in cheek, but I always wanted to try it but be careful with the finish on your stick, thay glue is pretty strong, I dont know what type of finish is on the graphite stick. If you are taking any kind of tape or glue off of a musical instrument you would want to use lighter fluid, which will not damage your finish. 

Andy o



On Feb 26, 2011, at 4:38 AM, "antonyhequet@yahoo.com" <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

hey,

I did see Letterman velcro mimself to the wall; pretty funny. OK I'm sold, I'll try it. Must find a velcro supply in FRance. I know one in Paris but now I am close to Geneva.

Antony

From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 6:15:30 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Velcro

On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Antony Hequet wrote:
> Got it, must be some veryvstron Velcro my carbon stick weighs a lot!
> Antony
Did you ever see the famous David Letterman show where he got into a Velcro suit,
hit a small trampoline and sprung onto a wall of velcro.

He stuck so badly that they had to go to a long commercial so that they could
get him off the wall to continue the show.

If you use a lot of velcro (and make sure you use a glue that is designed for
fabrics, so buy the velcro without glue on it and buy your own fabric glue)
and you put enough on I promise you it will hold your carbon stick.
Getting it back off of your body might be the trick.

Rick Walker (also known as the Velcro King in these here parts)


PS,  I love velcro and use it for tons of things.  I just bought brand new velcro that
is very bright dayglo orange and dayglo pink, both of which are active under black
lights.    It's even cool to color code your chords (leads) with so that you can see them
in the dark.    I promise you,  if you use Dayglo Pink tagging on your chords,
NOBODY will steel them at the gig...........lol!



--0-1326762354-1298758017=:51708-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 22:07:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FD7718347C; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 938054.19040.bm@omp1024.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298758053; bh=PgUcpmYvz+i6BnfKa9YDCsVetkz6yscOEP/lmhrk0E4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jHeetUOu3fCuHWyE8YekdNbzzpMFsaXMapckfFYp7HjdmvlQkmUMDPzXp2hUzXIe9+7kDQzVJKNbiM59VxcSZgDBPkGhViMcj5sFD+pHWxalvgPQ+p6LgUpAUSgYmq0ls8OnCBfE4kkuWQomrpp1t61mDpMP6s/ekAoxR61UwnQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qjLOobG/+tns96biDE2DC8XTXS32/KykHA8EE2EE+xnOIAcu7b7FuRhcMx+wrlWN1rLYVBZEyu3tE/e9+hMoUQ62AU7874pbX0CSCoXU/MytCznBbVrY7r0npy4GENALmHAitUCbMGWV4ZdyjseVSvDUbScIhilikHEGC+JPcUI=; Message-ID: <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c0msVAcVM1mCKXtykjON36_qQ3NNa1P0gvSb6IUTsL6scJy TI21AVeboiKZsmjPBh9AeZB6ain_RtqtLXeabuDmzs0G42LDOqTkSk1OL0mg jO3agjnjG5fZlQ.8KfD5cAvqGKIfRFf2B_mOJyg4hv_UnLRb7VHD2wrLIs2p UI_ynoAzBKOoK9ykTGKjFRlZdK0ZxdtxK6V5TNGkiMJ6GBMAL.qBJiwBvKh0 O9XZhe7vDawWkwoV8OCvLgKKaZ3Wtmpp6aAAQmmTvk43fCqwLYzuIk4LhU9S MqLhPXw9mvJvDhxMXIY6NazaaNEyHFkFj2FLBUhoKVk9ob6s- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:07:33 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1657182101-1298758053=:61973" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:07:35 +0000 (UTC) --0-1657182101-1298758053=:61973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii use you middle finger instead:-) ________________________________ From: Revfever To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 10:58:26 PM Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight My index finger is blistered from the constant repetition of hitting 'delete' concerning this thread. :-) Raisin Bran, Rev.Fever Portland, OR On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Gans wrote: > > > Wait. You think she exists? > > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > --0-1657182101-1298758053=:61973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
use you middle finger instead:-)

From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 10:58:26 PM
Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight

My index finger is blistered from the constant repetition of hitting 
'delete' concerning this thread. :-)

Raisin Bran,
Rev.Fever
Portland, OR

On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Gans wrote:

>
>
> Wait.  You think she exists?
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same
>
> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
> Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
> Web site: http://www.dgans.com
> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans
> Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans
>
>
>
>


--0-1657182101-1298758053=:61973-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 22:16:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 826BE183486; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-476293210 Message-Id: From: Revfever Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:15:56 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RDNS_NONE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:16:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-476293210 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Actually, in an "abstract" way concerning this particular thread, I sort of did w/ my previous response. :-) Over and out for me. I'm done. Sugar Frosted Flakes, Rev. Fever Portland,OR On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:07 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: > use you middle finger instead:-) > > From: Revfever > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 10:58:26 PM > Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight > > My index finger is blistered from the constant repetition of hitting > 'delete' concerning this thread. :-) > > Raisin Bran, > Rev.Fever > Portland, OR > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Gans wrote: > > > > > > > Wait. You think she exists? > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > >> locate this poor woman and ALL show up on her doorstep at the same > > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > > > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-476293210 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Actually, in an "abstract" way concerning this particular thread, I sort = of did w/ my previous response. :-)
Over and out for me. I'm = done.

Sugar Frosted Flakes,
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

On Feb 26, 2011, at = 2:07 PM, antonyhequet@yahoo.com = wrote:

use you middle finger instead:-)

From: Revfever <revfever@ubergadget.com>To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
 Sat, = February 26, 2011 10:58:26 PM
 Re: Is me Judy from = loopers-delight

My index finger is blistered from the = constant repetition of hitting  
'delete' concerning = this thread. :-)

Raisin Bran,
Rev.Fever
Portland, = OR

On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:42 PM, David Gans = wrote:

>
>
> Wait.  You think she = exists?
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2011, at 1:27 = PM, Rick Walker wrote:
>
>> locate this poor woman and = ALL show up on her doorstep at the same
>
> David Gans = - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
> Truth and = Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
> = Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com=
> Web site: http://www.dgans.com
>= ; Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/d= gans
> Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans
>
>
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= --Apple-Mail-1-476293210-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 22:28:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13C2A183493; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sd+z2ZLo1CGYh+/MUFI8Z6OhtZveEZVZSE4u8e80QOQ=; b=Ds0qOO/3oTtOoqJCHq+AmXZYKEH28a5CBHe4mS+jGl5BeykG/iV5Sa1VXg5/Z+6M+4 7K9dKBpDU5/RmJUL6UcPU6JFpxiwsOlnZx8GLH2NmRWQ+4ZpvGElGgY54gBit2vz9rRC fc+BQOISAbBcDfZXukyi3zdM7ChUiNQ2Axmoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vBHCcg9qToNVaOcK3YsjzqmBO/jxhgQH1QjuJ+u4IJh/QqnQeEHj79B9g6QSeQ50lD kUkIKt8DOULlCobeIMN2xR8D008aT569Fny8Ru5LGgPDT4vVXS7J4t4dJ4/h+uUFUEwu yTWfFvGpGs2I25//z5DodW6h7lxWCD2ze5wGg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:28:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f326cc665b8049d36f7e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:28:38 +0000 (UTC) --20cf307f326cc665b8049d36f7e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Beautiful Fro! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuuMeerSAMQ On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > waddup guys > > ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in- > recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time lapsed > it- > > background music is one of my songs called overdrawn > > enjoy! > > > The Wandering Madman > > --20cf307f326cc665b8049d36f7e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beautiful Fro! htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtuuMeerSAMQ

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com>= wrote:

waddup guys

ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all= feel like tuning in-
recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to au= stin TX and time lapsed it-

background music is one of my songs call= ed overdrawn

enjoy!


The= Wandering Madman


--20cf307f326cc665b8049d36f7e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 23:32:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2331F183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BOIpfmi/I6ROARe3Pm8tf/SHuKm7QIB2dsCdMpJZFzU=; b=aV2r1NF6rSCdieCd02hGifPYqcK8X3RQxvbDe9pXxKcHO24pHHxCudONwqx7vYfpuo xRzXNN9UMiaB4q8QCph8TBi6rneX/oMKRO9MMuserjJ9Iyg3M0lrberExZIr6L1Hf1vo FSI0n1KCu1p8qTXYgiR/ECVQgYZHYh1wvouNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C09COXl5WS89x35HKHEjGptXOm4hTlKvpKmcf/Qh8ZAB8l1IpowZc/ln030/xDr0r5 WsjwDDhZrXHo1m7pvRzl1kI5vhPRZVGQLUWCOXCUlc0ET6ub9qr6P9QBYMww3LKblGPa pXdibSPl49SHDUIzjEiA1gT1b18RDaZVKpyvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:32:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight From: Keith Smith To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:32:39 +0000 (UTC) ".............judy, judy, judy" Visions of Cary Grant appear. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Feb 26 23:58:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37B3C183466; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <53FB91C8314544EABC7E4F20BF3DD9E4@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Kris Hartung" From: "Kris Hartung" To: References: <4D68FFA5.5000900@cruzio.com> <17773772.3117.1298731118606.JavaMail.root@m01> <9CFEA6A4FD2E425AB2729C820AFB4D88@americas.hpqcorp.net> <288BCB8C-8C78-4C7A-8644-72CF05067336@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <288BCB8C-8C78-4C7A-8644-72CF05067336@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Video Processing Software Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:58:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_030F_01CBD5D6.5C152B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18263 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:58:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_030F_01CBD5D6.5C152B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In MAX's Vizzie, anyone know how to change the resolution of the video = output? Do I do this within the GRABBR object? If so, how? ------=_NextPart_000_030F_01CBD5D6.5C152B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In MAX's Vizzie, anyone know how to = change the=20 resolution of the video output? Do I do this within the GRABBR object? = If so,=20 how?
------=_NextPart_000_030F_01CBD5D6.5C152B80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 00:52:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B920F183475; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1890 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:52:19 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.4 X-EN-IMPSID: Cnqo1g00105G96J0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:50:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight In-Reply-To: References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:52:19 +0000 (UTC) For me, it was visions of Goober Pyle. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goober_Pyle ) At 2011/02/26 03:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: >".............judy, judy, judy" >Visions of Cary Grant appear. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 01:10:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0078183465; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a62f3e3d-a407-46a7-a079-df65ae43caad_" X-Originating-IP: [184.206.97.200] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: re: FRO vs SXSW Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:10:51 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2011 01:10:51.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CB45D30:01CBD61B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:10:52 +0000 (UTC) --_a62f3e3d-a407-46a7-a079-df65ae43caad_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable waddup andy=20 ill be playing on the street every weekend w/ my jamman & kalimba- just try= ing to spread the word and drive to hits to youtube / my website- im going to try to book 1 big show while im down here=2C but at the earlies= t it wont be until a few weeks after SXSW=20 lemme know if you end up coming down! The Wandering Madman=20 = --_a62f3e3d-a407-46a7-a079-df65ae43caad_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable waddup andy

ill be playing on the street every weekend w/ my jamman= &=3B kalimba- just trying to spread the word and drive to hits to youtu= be / my website-
im going to try to book 1 big show while im down here= =2C but at the earliest it wont be until a few weeks after SXSW

lem= me know if you end up coming down!



The= Wandering Madman

= --_a62f3e3d-a407-46a7-a079-df65ae43caad_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 04:43:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55989183465; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4I/6YXs3vNTzWcv4bRxxYbHNTv0zKYWms7TUX2j+zu0=; b=rpeM6JJSv1e1EIfa3oZ0JhX3DTYr5LG2H+ueuhSkmIztGIMhK1hJ1CIXguyZ2PFljN /wFKb6cbZ3/ZYHLVUj25T1bNcFUNN7RZL5pfaOZQ0R+tQ2YAUG3wbDmfE1gowaLjXCNO oe+Gr252OPLyFCTksEy4hlartX2Ay4csJYawA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vkMn/W8JC0SpGqe9TsJhRNjE6JNQfHX9ZuvfE1LGrcDoHIshQ9iwdySK7ljVQNWgHG qfj/5MmwXl9ZsCrj07JwIDPfoa/3UzpEhz+QVr4LmNu55XtlIICbLduRi4vBJfiQywLk ZzQSJJmcCq01rx1pufZLUG7PXOnd8DOUUb3r4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CDA3FB6BC25582-CA4-B717@angweb-usd005.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CDA3FB6BC25582-CA4-B717@angweb-usd005.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:43:36 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Way OT: Michiyo Yagi, Modern Koto, in London this week From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the better link. This double trio set is a mind blower as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNc-SToZi_E On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:37 AM, wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juN6ZIOYnuo&feature=player_embedded#at=70 > > > nuf sed! > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 04:46:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 169B7183466; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 894228.97196.bm@omp1001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298781993; bh=niY2mzYcd4Weh66gImgoR5VSXIFdjeVqzPokDsulJWk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Re5/T65+leWu5QIEyirkxH0twW4XKYmsVD1bFahofjQkjPCywL/YZE+e2ULCQ5eip1YxM9f+G0Of8djtwZ0/TPMQzkHJKJOt36qBCIEv0euFLKOf/Nh2SUwqKPpU4K5x7vD9jEovnrG9n5T8zY5wvyfG4mBLUVZ/csFlQ1fgweQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wVnCxDXLOKHuw65qdMNwZTSdrCi2Ly4UMuLfo1H6pQ1eh3YZDjXdOrLcQrxtQstlRPRFURJuPta2lj6QexfcdRw1VvpXwaYMCzDaEE7zgpExhHUuzrRu6NYEK3BYtKY6N0rH7CYnmf/CyJlSAggVCjNyJOxg1xQHOiFtqUAbhuc=; Message-ID: <895431.50829.qm@web114520.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: P23B5A8VM1korzNFTSTDjTaUMC95_eoe3v1rqGGyl_hncZx gjWiBa_kkT5B_Z4enG1keMBrJdnRTn6l87qDL8.6oswHid770FxjjPLC3z5Q hSi3oSxe9tpt9Qpy_q6L4Fy5zgxY_u06ihhwn3NQ4_vfkF.5bNYbLLzZ84qp rOTuhcTweqr36BImynYIOWRMmAmf0siGHUeQAsTfNUQghXUY4RtxQMcayTrH idYfwqfCFPaMjR35SNxNmYC3ClhNy84FLTgwXgHEvLl9pFHTLeH2yjSJj2qV iCYfR6qAUZxWmx_pjNJ.lnNFXvKGmcbssetl5fNk1nyMYdVYnslOddn.QmU5 680lh1w4qTa7xhsy9MRqrN8Syt5GmNF5GkYqthZj72GQTpbmI1Os89coh.M2 91CI6KsKE1OkugWab28Xs0.9_7cQ4zViqj6P2Vrw_z7KzbVJ.KQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:46:33 -0800 (PST) From: George Demarest Subject: Re: Video Processing Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1540853240-1298781993=:50829" Resent-Message-ID: <4bgCNC.A.imH.scdaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:46:36 +0000 (UTC) --0-1540853240-1298781993=:50829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii too late for this gig, but worth a look is a non-computer option, the Korg Entrancer KPE (discontinued now, but if you can find one used, they are highly useful and dead-easy to use). They also do wicked audio FX (Eno is apparently a big proponent of the KAOSS pads). gfd ________________________________ From: Tim Thompson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:02:27 PM Subject: Re: Video Processing Software > I am looking for some Windows Vista software that will take a feed from = > my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send = > to projector. Anyone have any suggestion? Free or cost is fine. I = > don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of = > plugins to get it to work. Two inexpensive ones that appear to satisfy your requirements: Cell - http://lividinstruments.com/software_cell.php . I haven't used this one, but it looks appropriate, and Peter Nyboer is the developer and used to be (and may still be) on this mailing list. CL Studio Lite - http://codelaboratories.com/projects/view/studio/overview/ Both have demo versions you can try. If price is not a barrier, Salvation - http://www.harrisondigitalmedia.com/ - is the most straightforward but powerful video tool I've used. Unfortunately, the smaller version (Salvation MX) doesn't appear to have camera input. ...Tim... --0-1540853240-1298781993=:50829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
too late for this gig, but worth a look is a non-computer option, the Korg Entrancer KPE
(discontinued now, but if you can find one used, they are highly useful and dead-easy 
to use).  They also do wicked audio FX (Eno is apparently a big proponent of the KAOSS
pads).

gfd



From: Tim Thompson <tjt@nosuch.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 12:02:27 PM
Subject: Re: Video Processing Software

> I am looking for some Windows Vista software that will take a feed from =
> my webcam, process it, and show it in full screen on my laptop, or send =
> to projector.  Anyone have any suggestion?   Free or cost is fine.  I =
> don't want anything too complicated that requires programming or tons of =
> plugins to get it to work.

Two inexpensive ones that appear to satisfy your requirements:

Cell - http://lividinstruments.com/software_cell.php .  I haven't used
this one, but it looks appropriate, and Peter Nyboer is the developer
and used to be (and may still be) on this mailing list.

CL Studio Lite - http://codelaboratories.com/projects/view/studio/overview/

Both have demo versions you can try.

If price is not a barrier, Salvation -
http://www.harrisondigitalmedia.com/ - is the most straightforward but
powerful video tool I've used.  Unfortunately, the smaller version
(Salvation MX) doesn't appear to have camera input.

    ...Tim...

--0-1540853240-1298781993=:50829-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 04:51:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E09EC183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xdhZYkl7vU1oADdEPVjcTNSBCIIrdjw0DN0hr/EgBX4=; b=VYOaq/i+rpn88SWx3TS66wUXDc4NxDPtmg3j3GsEns+QYNDKgkNg2QWi87m9sLV3mM m05FQkl58y2+aCM5ieZ/fDuYt6W0ejGc/gyqYZuFYVocfi+ZHD4IYruJVKPPjRfga4bw TGaS3jyFjq4yxMSy/VxCZ2Fl+g8FfzMnQ+z0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=H4mdqLHIGPLZRIlFndrYRjBofaYo6uPFnspbksvGaerxvTmF0HliGKqHrQSuUMSuvp YdF0BjdKAL6SAKHyAfpXWogiI5OjKGdyJiHLxyswJTzHlFMxTJCXUAmrT7u00uHfkBk5 uuGUFmGk8cTZ2Tzjh3aYWIZCqQeD/41dzINSQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:51:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: re: recording an album From: Scott Hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd8bc9e9322a049d3c5059 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:51:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd8bc9e9322a049d3c5059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 my 2 cents... some suggestions: if you read "tape op" mag-always articles about beginning engineers/producers who build their resume by recording folks for free or cheap to get experience. one suggestion, from yrs of reading it, most talk about the good experience of it, so ask around, see if any of these folks exist in your area.... my self, 8 yrs ago a friend gave me her old tascam 4 track porta-studio, i had it fixed for a $100, and went to town, recorded loop experiments (that was FUN, and honestly i still think it's my best stuff, and i had NO GEAR back then!!!!) and then i also practiced recording my acoustic singer/songwriter type things, that was a lot of experiment, trial & error....mistakes, boy you learn from them. i wouldn't say i was great or did a great job, but i think in the end what i learned was simpler was better and i was trying to capture the best performance, so recording over and over, over a long period worked for me, the great thing about having your own gear, no time constraints. i then moved up to the cheapest at the time digital recorder, the fostex mr8-man when i had 8 tracks i didn't know what to do w/ myself...ha.. there was just a back page editorial in tape op about the charm of the old 4-track recording method.... as for the other options....yes, if you've saved your $$, and there is a local studio that is w/in your budget and you can get your material together, that can be a great way too...for me, i doubt i could perform when the red recording light goes on, but that's me. i remember in the david torn GP interview from back in '87, he talked about why people didn't strive for sounding like they do when they play in their own living room, he was talking about the soundpage he recorded for the flexi-disk that was included in that issue, the 80s were the beginning of the 4-track taper, since the stuff was getting semi-cheap for folks to use/buy (it was still WAY OUT OF MY PRICE RANGE!!!!) of course the other route is the HUGE RANGE OF SMALL DIGITAL recorders out there, ranging from under $100 & up & up...in the same recent tape op from above in the reviews section was a review of some singer/songwriter from somewhere (an indy guy) who had some band projects from yrs past, but about 3 yrs ago recorded some acoustic guitar/voice stuff in his bedroom w/ a marantz portable digital recorder (i think it was the one in the $500 range-so more "professional" i guess), but they talked about the "intimate feel", laid back-loose feel it has w/ recorded in bedroom capturing song performances....certainly an option (think the michelle shocked 'campfire album' or springsteen's 'nebraska') there is also the david pajo & thom yorke recorded solo albums on their mac books a few yrs ago.and i believe i read that the latest gorillaz album (blur singer guy) did their recent album w/ an ipad. and when i was (endlessly) researching small digital recorders, i think it was matt davignon (please confirm if i'm wrong here MATT, my old brain works not great lately!) who emailed me to tell me he records all his stuff w/ the zoom h2 (endless hrs of stuff) then transfers to computer and edits down to the good stuff to release things. man i thought that was a great process, let the creativity roll, pull good stuff later.... & certainly listen to david torn's "splattercell oah" disc--there are a couple of things on there recorded w/ a microcassette (improvised jams) that he transferred to computer. i remember reading that & thought , WOW! after my exhaustive 2 months of researching small digital recorders i ended up buying the tascam dr03 tonight from musiciansfriend.com...i 'm excited to get it & try out... some rambling thoughts...not sure if it helps or hinders, but probably rambles...good luck.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen (the newish stuff here-april '10- recorded w/ the onboard mic on my fostex mr8-i've got bad line input for direct recording on it....) --0016e6dd8bc9e9322a049d3c5059 Content-Type: text/html; 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my 2 cents...
some suggestions: if you read "tape op" mag-always articles = about beginning engineers/producers who build their resume by recording fol= ks for free or cheap to get experience.
one suggestion, from yrs of reading it, most talk about the good exper= ience of it, so ask around, see if any of these folks exist in your area...= .
=A0
my self, 8 yrs ago a friend gave me her old tascam 4 track porta-studi= o, i had it fixed for a $100, and went to town, recorded loop experiments (= that was FUN, and honestly
i still think it's my best stuff, and i had NO GEAR back then!!!!)= and then i also practiced recording my acoustic singer/songwriter type thi= ngs, that was a lot of
experiment, trial & error....mistakes, boy you learn from them. i = wouldn't say i was great or did a great job, but i think in the end wha= t i learned was simpler was better
and i was trying to capture the best performance, so recording over an= d over, over a long period worked for me, the great thing about having your= own gear, no time
constraints. i then moved up to the cheapest at the time digital recor= der, the fostex mr8-man when i had 8 tracks i didn't know what to do w/= myself...ha..
=A0
there was just a back page editorial in tape op about the charm of the= old 4-track recording method....
=A0
as for the other options....yes, if you've saved your $$, and ther= e is a local studio that is w/in your budget and you can get your material = together, that can be a great
way too...for me, i doubt i could perform when the red recording light= goes on, but that's me.
=A0
i remember in the david torn GP interview from back in '87, he tal= ked about why people didn't strive for sounding like they do when they = play in their own living room,
he was talking about the soundpage he recorded for the flexi-disk that= was included in that issue, the 80s were the beginning of the 4-track tape= r, since the stuff was
getting semi-cheap for folks to use/buy (it was still WAY OUT OF MY PR= ICE RANGE!!!!)
=A0
of course the other route is the HUGE RANGE OF SMALL DIGITAL recorders= out there, ranging from under $100 & up & up...in the same recent = tape op from above
in the reviews section was a review of some singer/songwriter from som= ewhere (an indy guy) who had some band projects from yrs past, but about 3 = yrs ago recorded
some acoustic guitar/voice stuff in his bedroom w/ a marantz portable = digital recorder (i think it was the one in the $500 range-so more "pr= ofessional" i guess), but they
talked about the "intimate feel", laid back-loose feel it ha= s w/ recorded in bedroom capturing=A0song performances....certainly an opti= on (think the michelle shocked 'campfire album'
or springsteen's 'nebraska')
=A0
there is also the david pajo & thom yorke recorded solo albums on = their mac books a few yrs ago.and i believe i read that the latest gorillaz= album (blur singer guy)
did their recent album w/ an ipad. and when i was (endlessly) research= ing small digital recorders, i think it was matt davignon (please confirm i= f i'm wrong here MATT, my old brain works not great lately!) who emaile= d me to tell me he records all his stuff w/ the zoom h2 (endless hrs of stu= ff) then transfers to computer and edits down to the good stuff to
release things. man i thought that was a great process, let the creati= vity roll, pull good stuff later....
=A0
& certainly listen to david torn's "splattercell oah"= ; disc--there are a couple of things on there recorded w/ a microcassette (= improvised jams) that he transferred to computer. i remember reading that &= amp; thought , WOW!
=A0
after my exhaustive 2 months of researching small digital recorders i = ended up buying the tascam dr03 tonight from musiciansfriend.com...i 'm= excited to get it & try out...
=A0
some rambling thoughts...not sure if it helps or hinders, but probably= rambles...good luck....
s---
www.myspace.com/scottha= nsen (the newish stuff here-april '10- recorded w/ the onboard mic = on my fostex mr8-i've got bad line input for direct recording on it....= )
--0016e6dd8bc9e9322a049d3c5059-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 07:36:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A2E8183465; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D69FEE7.4070403@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:36:07 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FRO DIDDLY CC: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7GcsLD.A.tZD.v7faNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Wow, man, that's just fucking beautiful. Your playing; your singing; your seamless integration of your loops; your drumming; a tour de force. Made my night, I have to say..........I want to go write music and that's the highest compliment I could give you. thanks for sharing with all of us, Fro. rick walker On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > waddup guys > > ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in- > recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time > lapsed it- > > background music is one of my songs called overdrawn > > enjoy! > > > The Wandering Madman > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 10:27:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5F2318345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 585684664/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.9/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.9 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkCADu2aU1YbRMJ/2dsb2JhbAAMmCjJC4VhBI9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,234,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="585684664" Message-ID: <4D6A270E.4030804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:27:26 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: recording an album References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Scott Hansen wrote: > there was just a back page editorial in tape op about the charm of the > old 4-track recording method.... There's often editorial in Tape Op saying how the recording medium isn't important, that one was taking it to extremes though. Truth is, those cassette portastudios were truly awful. Cheap electronics that distorted way before you got into tape saturation. They weren't even great quality for a cassette recorder. It wasn't possible to get much bass on them, or any top end either. Around that time you could get a second hand reel to reel 4-track for less money. I had plenty of opportunity use both options, and it seemed like anyone who bought the cassette version had been seriously fooled by hype. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 10:33:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6F7E183457; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 718844.12308.bm@omp1023.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298802837; bh=d37c6NU5Tmg0pgwAOeXqG9AIxXKtJh5bta24BOFbMPE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PQpVhNNJX4ywpcOudLGnXnxr5NA49NglJXgUghv48dhMwGq6l3JBfZZd3NrB0kgWnaPstsUm0PHU8BWmrIqvEBtco73thl5gQw0vEBThaQAATz9m614CsG8A4bm9YY8SewXfxQYzkWPOFrJpTFN6WW14aEcOW/Fku3J5OVdggqY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=clMglihaUiqLyvc+e7YI8d2ikn1qKG7sXzguD4yDg+LJbD12GDLKm2HY8Zu9ytGiOxAtBBH6H2O5eU0rKwQOizina83BHIpil+bpVU7pirzJ9FLj+PJRkq43rQRt6qbMvSHhJz68r5wYQQz6RizfT8qC6zS5C4RsnT9j19FOt2c=; Message-ID: <623265.62021.qm@web120718.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Jzn21FsVM1l7yH_qKpcCJhFbk7W2AMV.ix1QKLApPjZHWLr KUqEIa7oV_MtTPMM1Yq3Pp7ZCuRaR0vD6EIj3FQot1Jg4IWzx0x0aOWWYOra _GlZJQhgNqC7NvZkA7T3EG0HGSF6vJkUnWWcT.ZrrXFKRBI07_tNUjUOzsuF 2_iWOgTaGZbue79JBy4OiuIJMYIJA1hKK.AdHDjzc8PpBN7OazIZbZkQ3Hz8 2vn_idSsslly.PtGEkOTXzyeQ_RMRTYx1MFGHKGnXkf14jPZd0wC06naXUMo .lOBxQ8eFRK97mWRI79iGhCUhPAJVcl1XAxqiU2E5qV4kCboJnilYdb8XLOn H X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <4D6A270E.4030804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:33:57 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: recording an album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D6A270E.4030804@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-362554406-1298802837=:62021" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:33:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-362554406-1298802837=:62021 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bought an Otari 8 track in NYC a sell out with a good price. That was real semi pro machine. Eurythmics made a first album with it. Antony ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:27:26 AM Subject: Re: recording an album Scott Hansen wrote: > there was just a back page editorial in tape op about the charm of the old >4-track recording method.... There's often editorial in Tape Op saying how the recording medium isn't important, that one was taking it to extremes though. Truth is, those cassette portastudios were truly awful. Cheap electronics that distorted way before you got into tape saturation. They weren't even great quality for a cassette recorder. It wasn't possible to get much bass on them, or any top end either. Around that time you could get a second hand reel to reel 4-track for less money. I had plenty of opportunity use both options, and it seemed like anyone who bought the cassette version had been seriously fooled by hype. andy --0-362554406-1298802837=:62021 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I bought an Otari 8 track in NYC a sell out with a good price. That was real semi pro machine. Eurythmics made a first album with it.

Antony

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 11:27:26 AM
Subject: Re: recording an album

Scott Hansen wrote:

> there was just a back page editorial in tape op about the charm of the old 4-track recording method....

There's often editorial in Tape Op saying how the recording
medium isn't important, that one was taking it to extremes though.


Truth is, those cassette portastudios were truly awful.
Cheap electronics that distorted way before you got
into tape saturation. They weren't even great quality
for a cassette recorder. It wasn't possible to get
much bass on them, or any top end either.

Around that time you could get a second hand reel to
reel 4-track for less money. I had plenty of opportunity
use both options, and it seemed like anyone who bought
the cassette version had been seriously fooled by hype.

andy










--0-362554406-1298802837=:62021-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 11:14:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38246183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X9G1xvS86UHgbO8mIayQnOy8fJfOu85odQ5eLc3B5Eg=; b=HgcXYcZZYQaUUWZKVuhVL+Vk+KEX0eJTZIAeFspMImruBri7gP1ocxAXumbjlBHpwO PmqEQvO1TgKqwrBcB0pHryw6fxfVo6WjB6gi8FExICUNyCxD51CQvFt42NPJ60oAg1+S UBjbS6fe6lBm3QFadBUpeUaHogF8SRCzE6tKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hV2l9oN6c+JRhC24vZSmhugsKe3QasXtqoRBXChKkpmk+vITvMRougTuxTXLYD92UK PNDxu5GDQ4iYP4gPUn4+GSZ4o3Q5Zw8MYvWLnIbC5QKIs52zQy5UoVJ1mpBqVaVGRd37 Ql3BMsFILgMlqsgQwe0qBuLxvD/WAD/EXC/So= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:14:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <7h95UD.A.UyH.yIjaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:14:58 +0000 (UTC) ...guys whats going on here...? On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > For me, it was visions of Goober Pyle. > > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goober_Pyle ) > > > At 2011/02/26 03:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: >> >> ".............judy, judy, judy" >> Visions of Cary Grant appear. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 11:27:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6767B18345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 626914.33974.bm@omp1021.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298806030; bh=OwQ/1BD04B+kX+x4yvloAwSceuXQVrKi/2pmDzxumIQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LjpSuazag5lohXcs5eB+FBOEfYCoGk/WPKNA8LIxq9SNLv+QfMLbZipas07MxpgJspANGvozHFq+hC7Zm9ncaleMszSlUzhBZ6z+jUVnnHrSDDU744p1kh2qJYwsNYTf37MJ14noCpn2x3He+CW4Vj5BWwwQAwle6VHNVNiAVmE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KbbsRTK8Z/icRq7MufRfkFw3N0DsLmOrHWJ3guf1roMnSWsC+utZfDbRdoWnDqDXeG7X8wNGMuw+khb1DH5swe0QEaUS/A9a8XoLEVYw1PtKMEYm87MxiDhGrmPDV3Uy8JnA70uV24PyQU46jAVryia6dtEWQzLaeIoNMo9trMo=; Message-ID: <514703.30763.qm@web120705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lWOYyOEVM1nKL_kE_hxdtx4ToK1Nwhouj3adCOY8rosEdIV LHPbapvJk0tZdTHclM4qRQp4_IiCu.whOhAekaTkwfRLHvDOuPvwdttSKnux jpC2U37Zq0feUh0Sxx1QLoOLa48XiiX_NV1aI0nA9GtSOWVB.bYZ3XC0gflv QneMnihumd77gxlxxqqS3mW8DYlC0Z3sTfWRBn3iv0lG5RsVCCocWCiX_HRM 5wwd4iNYFAKphg0lNwxnCCNtc_yAIY1jhK_460WVGt7KURjzhqceAq5SRWON S6WYXjl4sk7ReI8GNgKtIIttw_q4gwo0NmoECTg48HJxaKHYd7WgeLA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <224FD729-129E-47EE-B5CA-0CE40951CA12@1800dialword.com> <4D69702A.40607@cruzio.com> <63C2B31A-0CFC-4907-8533-2E93DD57E641@trufun.com> <839192.61973.qm@web120715.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 03:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-958181733-1298806030=:30763" Resent-Message-ID: <03LiW.A.LI.PUjaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:27:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-958181733-1298806030=:30763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cabin fever, a side effect of looping:-) Antony ________________________________ From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 12:14:55 PM Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight ...guys whats going on here...? On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Sean Echevarria wrote: > For me, it was visions of Goober Pyle. > > ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goober_Pyle ) > > > At 2011/02/26 03:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote: >> >> ".............judy, judy, judy" >> Visions of Cary Grant appear. > > --0-958181733-1298806030=:30763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
cabin fever, a side effect of looping:-)

Antony

From: Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 12:14:55 PM
Subject: Re: Is me Judy from loopers-delight

...guys whats going on here...?










On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Sean Echevarria
<fuckthespam@creepingfog.com> wrote:
> For me, it was visions of Goober Pyle.
>
> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goober_Pyle )
>
>
> At 2011/02/26 03:32 PM, Keith Smith wrote:
>>
>> ".............judy, judy, judy"
>> Visions of Cary Grant appear.
>
>


--0-958181733-1298806030=:30763-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 11:44:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF13D18345A; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HS42RLrrcG3B9XcrHth1Oml9e5xvG1lcuJ8tTUII8I4=; b=ktC2rqSRtvDAIoaRYviY+bafNpc7tODdKv+0t+7fZB5ZkiIGB03MuvTinI6ZI9rYTQ tbNOF5pvKUuPJ0GXkFErYdZybELEhpsKgRC9I/gY7qf8f193iCjZenLbaLdaTpt9SPZ4 Z1KchAvH/K9Jxj5b70N5s4g5oze90CU62OXR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q0Eve4sZQ6200/XpOfvPCdU1hQ30ZAgL/haWnWF5d9qDX88Jsh4NZTCucysP8HrzXU 7z5JP0MKvAf0l/ESXGN9X71o/m+EmdFV5QTChgsf89nPg+O+2RciSj/FdrJ4EfmwX6LB pGCut0P+V28qzUz09A0yeu/c46iQDvoWb9bvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D69FEE7.4070403@cruzio.com> References: <4D69FEE7.4070403@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:44:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:44:27 +0000 (UTC) FRO man yous hould be in the charts awesome,voice,music just wonderful! did you record and produced this at home? On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Wow, man, =A0 that's just fucking beautiful. > > Your playing; your singing; your seamless integration of your loops; your > drumming; > a tour de force. > > Made my night, I have to say..........I want to go write music and that's > the highest compliment I could > give you. > > thanks for sharing with all of us, Fro. > > rick walker > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: >> >> waddup guys >> >> ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in= - >> recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time lapse= d >> it- >> >> background music is one of my songs called overdrawn >> >> enjoy! >> >> >> The Wandering Madman >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 11:51:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3257118345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=NnTguNTGBK+j9Uk4/A9Plj6eTtQ/L+xxum889wCHH8Y=; b=snxgedV4KDeR6KJhbbsPAEaXiCmou8SNqh2PRtpuKn97V31pZys5dumX6ZufGHXOG4 BfF9RtbEZwfe+RRZB+VIhmCzIhwT9l2AdiUjEnMVhIRotK01b4yVS+9Z+0CaPoe4UaDu YEkNPVLc1bbcOXgv+o9RmoidDLzXJ+ZFv+8Ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=bLiN/rpBMJQcizyvJlgPIsPrGjqFKbLWvMlCSsW4wR1FePUY9jECS4i0XTbR/gTFI5 IP76TQq8aItyI8agfft87Mfl7HPUF0semHfjXJBDmzsRXhIMob/4QgFnubZvILtNmGV0 iJvEj1aVOt+ZOMFcdu8cixKkoRUAC07T84XrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:51:24 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: tFaMpt-FWgObEfQLKahYCdzdnmU Message-ID: Subject: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1d79eb2c76049d422fa7 Resent-Message-ID: <9TFk2C.A.jx.SrjaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:51:46 +0000 (UTC) --bcaec51b1d79eb2c76049d422fa7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Today I stumbled across the Korg Kaosilator PRO. I have always been a bit interested in the Kaosilator, however never even looked at one due to it no= t having midi sync. But then there's the Kaosilator PRO.. full midi in clock /out.. and its says.. Performs double-duty as a MIDI controller for externa= l equipment. So.. interesting. I have always expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi Looper". With all the functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the thing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked, either by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation routings. I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a Korg MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always pre-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the best being called, weirdly "Mobius") The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation. But theres my problem / wish. TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FREEL= Y IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED. So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes. So, to the questions: The Kaosilator PRO. How is it to play..? Is it a proper "Instrument" Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within a key and scale)??? Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorte= d acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop... OR... Can I quickly loop a little string section, OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add some twinkles? And Tech questions.. How is it at following midi clock? When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis? Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y t= o filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi sequncer/looper for an external synth.. And finally, Whats the on-board audio loopers like? IF ALL GOOD... For Sale: Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very psychedelic mult= i band panner, all syncable... Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer) Previously used to automate 2 EDP=B4s (or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...) Mark --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --bcaec51b1d79eb2c76049d422fa7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

Today I stumbled across the Korg Kaosilator PRO. I have alw= ays been a bit interested in the Kaosilator, however never even looked at o= ne due to it not having midi sync. But then there's the Kaosilator PRO.= . full midi in clock /out.. and its says.. Performs double-duty as a MIDI controller for extern= al equipment.

So.. interesting.

I have always expounded on this list that I am= dreaming of a "Midi Looper". With all the functions of an EDP, b= ut.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the thing about a synth loop (pre-progra= mmed) is that it can still be tweaked, either by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation routings.

I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular sys= tem, a Korg MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth li= nes" Ive always pre-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation= sequencer of the Korg, or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the mo= dular (the best being called, weirdly "Mobius")

The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily b= e quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation.=

But theres my problem / wish.

TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE = ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPE= D.

So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes.

So, to the ques= tions:

The Kaosilator PRO.
How is it to play..?
Is it a prop= er "Instrument"
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is= it basicaly random (within a key and scale)???
Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorte= d acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop... OR...
Can I quickly loop a little string section,
OR, can I hear = a Xylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add s= ome twinkles?

And Tech questions..
How is it at following midi clock?
When us= ed as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis? Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y= to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.= . which I dont know.. have to find the manual.)
Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi = sequncer/looper for an external synth..
And finally,
Whats the on-board audio lo= opers like?

IF ALL GO= OD...

For Sale:

Red Sound Federation synched Multi effectsInsanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very psychedelic mu= lti band panner, all syncable...

Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used= to automate 2 EDP=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...)

Mark





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--bcaec51b1d79eb2c76049d422fa7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 12:01:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3EBF18345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=F173Op36oRRa3I8UHfprHNA/2mCIuTCevncbtrTvamw=; b=DDvdb2HIhHXtfbPMLBH28TpOgV8Tt0T+Qyi/e7bHcGeX+j4Dm995N4MqBjxkTXRzyM NI9kIhjP5CcQRK7cQuDzkE0DsTE6pKdE/hZtIPBZJ7C+Hz+K862OJQr+zXD+wdv4+Eu7 cSu6XMgegmZ5uczC4Pk+hCY9XiFONZbv25gXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=iS71Xs3QD11u+OOW30kmsWk8ksL0hmZd/aVpZ0Ikgiz5Th30x4562ipHwNhUGRa84F pQcLhmvB92Kfhxa9Zm7R2q95OIqPwq08M+K8+w0bePbSwQs/iuKMugpNwssXqZUN/Qfx 1k76hTD9ic+bmkdGcu/rHAny77mYWwqyhb9ZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4D69FEE7.4070403@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:01:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mUCpEW4ufYfKclxNGZSDtQY4D0w Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6138c8da782d049d42537a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:01:48 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba6138c8da782d049d42537a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jeeeeeesus... Enjoyed!! >> enjoy! > >> > >> > >> The Wandering Madman > >> > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba6138c8da782d049d42537a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeeeeeesus... Enjoyed!!


>> = enjoy!
>>
>>
>> The Wandering Madman <http://www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman>
>>
>



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Mark Francombe
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--90e6ba6138c8da782d049d42537a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 12:15:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 004FD183463; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gecRZEC3mLoMBx//+NKzxUITnITholX/bF6q35MF9uw=; b=iqW9tuQoFPOHmdooCn57Is2NNUW3GYAs7XMrKCybB+8X8H2ivj5E/jR/+KxM3Hj26D CBflkehkXO3ssh42VphVjZTiaYqsBkAdhtCCw8RxYkVsM4F6tvmJIRDWangmUCn0gap7 kri1wRThwZo1UxiH5jvua20WbcdBIhPwSdgs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qtt+sF3D8ZQfw8VUPE4RpRbJjxpkBU2VlI1kIStF3nrnvwtuX6ncAhLm3/PkHGWrqR fTMKOr9Uz19FzWKo7Q6T0zz9QLPQSkgvscIa3BeyIfXzXdnhH6EBDmH/YuqxSzB9d6pi zrsttWoA9Cg7NVQnx/hkMQm9Fzmy22CcIri88= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: FRO vs SXSW From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Hey Fro i was watching your videos,man the looping integration is so seamless is scary, perfect live looping song performing! You and Reyn are the best song oriented live looping ive seen so far,the looping is seemless and perfectly programmed and crafted! sorry for all the questions im about to ask but thats what im here for to learn from all of you great dudes. I was also looking at your setup,wow man! would you mind sharing it with us? i see you have mobius runing on a mounted screen with some rack fx on top,nice! The loop changing seems like it has been in a way sequence pre-programmed while you loop so the parts change and keyboard patches as well, without you having to do much tap dance and concentrate on playing,could you develop more on this?I remember in the mobius forums you asking for scripts using variable cycle or something of that nature that could be changed with one single button... what is that drum controller you are using and what kind of drum module are u using,is it superior durmmer? the drum sounds are quite nice! what are u using for the voice effects? are you also sending control changes to mobius with your keyboard besides the FCB1010? are u using the headphones to monitor a click or just as monitors? are u playing with this setup live a lot? how long is setup time? really awesome man,i dont know why you havent been to the loop festivals,you could come and give us a workshop,many of us could learn from you! cheers Luis On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:34 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > waddup guys > > ill be doing some SXSW coverage this year is you all feel like tuning in- > recorded video of my drive from St louis, mo to austin TX and time lapsed > it- > > background music is one of my songs called overdrawn > > enjoy! > > > The Wandering Madman > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 13:17:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 226CF18345A; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7e3AHFlLgdSpafxsSkwcU0aprFRv7oS7JwGERyqxMp8=; b=sKSFomhkgikq5vWgiZDN2o0IZ+EavB7KVW4gq1uOeljUgsX9yVx/Y4k9NZjuVWsMZp l7uVd9us6nZxU8bjLQwCAxIFyazQVLxZUoyfvvOYfWoUADywzyU1HmIY9sEQGhrb4ITx vfvAX+mT6++eB/SRpZqzZR4ZDj1GLI4v3bsfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fVyemRYch0blsfMZo+6xtsBD0HixGO6XODJuUF3xTx3zNPcmxu5QTYS1C7hHJcUhgb 2hUfKdaWZ200CJd1iubmw6IgTxnHbMavb1vncXuS6kN6IlyE1V16xKHb/R78l5nkp23C CuS0oolftEGdkTrwGpdLx6bUyoAwC0SoUnKxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:17:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Simeon,i found most of them though im still looking for the "chords" one,i really like that one,could you direct me to it? On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > hi louie. i posted them all on the circular labs forum in the scripts > section. they all work for 1.43 (i think), but if you have any problems, > please get in touch and i'll see if i can help. > http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 > > many thanks! > > sim > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> Hi Simeon, >> im just checking out this audio files really great! >> do you have the corresponding scripts for them or is there also a link >> for me to try them out? >> im assuming this all work with v1.43,yeah? >> thanx man >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... >> > >> > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ >> > >> > the folder contains... >> > >> > autoreverse4.mp3 >> > chords.mp3 >> > dropstop.mp3 >> > reich.mp3 >> > stutter.mp3 >> > stutterdrop.mp3 >> > windowing.mp3 >> > >> > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does >> > exactly >> > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the >> > loop >> > divided into 4 chinks here. >> > >> > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a >> > single >> > note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to >> > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create >> > chords. i >> > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the chords >> > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put this >> > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already uses >> > something very similar. >> > >> > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a slice >> > and >> > then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end your >> > performance >> > >> > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, >> > panned, >> > multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into 64ths >> > here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. try >> > 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down >> > the >> > rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. >> > >> > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this >> > grabs >> > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >> > >> > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need >> > to be >> > tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync >> > >> > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just >> > trigger >> > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it >> > randomly. >> > use undo to get out of it >> > >> > >> > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum >> > >> > sim >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 13:42:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0285C183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WW5ZSzcL7ew4d/0wdkfg1eGFdsXiPUGpJf69GYH1dZw=; b=SjAyAZzKAgOk0KiW6u29QNJwzrQ26fBE7EiQmRmfxQQ5VHXdEWqBxVxYAwKBKDC+3w FXwV8gN3vr2h6ww4c6PcSwQmVoOvEb6B2418VaeH8Dt8MjLbQY77g3v9QYDYXA7gvCAj NOoqTaDgZamCFOMa2CbWt8W1YfExYsvI67Ubo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=kmnwMS4h+DWd938g6Ei9X67JFMAxrxyDoEZI0l1MsH5lGjPC1T7BQXZgPrVsqygvkN gb6iLObuSLKED/MuJ3zUFL1C3v6XJyB8BbOo2zFCrSPr05etZ43bio5moH+cSkaefl6K 2gmwL01JHu8xdmDAddgVGjAPFq/qBiOGjevHM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:41:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd47ec030c282049d43ba15 Resent-Message-ID: <72dECB.A.OCD.oSlaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:42:00 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd47ec030c282049d43ba15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 we're back on the list, but that's ok, other people might be looking for them i didn't post the one for chords, but i'll explain how it was done i put four tracks into a group and then tied a button on my controller to drop all four into rec/dub, so i could record a single note on all four at once i then wrote a bunch of short scripts to rateshift each of the four tracks independently with one hit to make a chord i have a bank on my footcontroller to do the group rec/dub, a group fade and to select all the different scripts. i just step on the buttons as it takes my fancy to select different chords as i play over the top. hope that helps sim On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Thanx Simeon,i found most of them though im still looking for the > "chords" one,i really like that one,could you direct me to it? > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > > hi louie. i posted them all on the circular labs forum in the scripts > > section. they all work for 1.43 (i think), but if you have any problems, > > please get in touch and i'll see if i can help. > > http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 > > > > many thanks! > > > > sim > > > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Louie Angulo < > louie.angulo@googlemail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Simeon, > >> im just checking out this audio files really great! > >> do you have the corresponding scripts for them or is there also a link > >> for me to try them out? > >> im assuming this all work with v1.43,yeah? > >> thanx man > >> Luis > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Simeon Harris > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... > >> > > >> > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ > >> > > >> > the folder contains... > >> > > >> > autoreverse4.mp3 > >> > chords.mp3 > >> > dropstop.mp3 > >> > reich.mp3 > >> > stutter.mp3 > >> > stutterdrop.mp3 > >> > windowing.mp3 > >> > > >> > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does > >> > exactly > >> > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the > >> > loop > >> > divided into 4 chinks here. > >> > > >> > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a > >> > single > >> > note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to > >> > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create > >> > chords. i > >> > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the > chords > >> > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put > this > >> > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already > uses > >> > something very similar. > >> > > >> > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a > slice > >> > and > >> > then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end > your > >> > performance > >> > > >> > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, > >> > panned, > >> > multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into > 64ths > >> > here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. > try > >> > 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down > >> > the > >> > rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. > >> > > >> > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this > >> > grabs > >> > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle > >> > > >> > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will need > >> > to be > >> > tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync > >> > > >> > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just > >> > trigger > >> > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it > >> > randomly. > >> > use undo to get out of it > >> > > >> > > >> > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum > >> > > >> > sim > >> > > > > > > > --000e0cd47ec030c282049d43ba15 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we're back on the list, but that's ok, other people might be lookin= g for them

i didn't post the one for chords, but i'll explai= n how it was done

i put four tracks into a group and then tied a but= ton on my controller to drop all four into rec/dub, so i could record a sin= gle note on all four at once

i then wrote a bunch of short scripts to rateshift each of the four tra= cks independently with one hit to make a chord

i have a bank on my f= ootcontroller to do the group rec/dub, a group fade and to select all the d= ifferent scripts. i just step on the buttons as it takes my fancy to select= different chords as i play over the top.

hope that helps

sim



On= Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>= wrote:
Thanx Simeon,i fo= und most of them though im still looking for the
"chords" one,i really like that one,could you direct me to it?
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> hi louie. i posted them all on the circular labs forum in the scripts<= br> > section. they all work for 1.43 (i think), but if you have any problem= s,
> please get in touch and i'll see if i can help.
> http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3D6=
>
> many thanks!
>
> sim
>
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simeon,
>> im just checking out this audio files really great!
>> do you have the corresponding scripts for them or is there also a = link
>> for me to try them out?
>> im assuming this all work with v1.43,yeah?
>> thanx man
>> Luis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Simeon Harris
>> <simeonharris4= 0@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen...
>> >
>> > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/
>> >
>> > the folder contains...
>> >
>> > autoreverse4.mp3
>> > chords.mp3
>> > dropstop.mp3
>> > reich.mp3
>> > stutter.mp3
>> > stutterdrop.mp3
>> > windowing.mp3
>> >
>> > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up= . does
>> > exactly
>> > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i h= ave the
>> > loop
>> > divided into 4 chinks here.
>> >
>> > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i = record a
>> > single
>> > note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bou= nd to
>> > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to c= reate
>> > chords. i
>> > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy = with the chords
>> > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future.= i've put this
>> > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he a= lready uses
>> > something very similar.
>> >
>> > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this on= e grabs a slice
>> > and
>> > then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way = to end your
>> > performance
>> >
>> > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto t= rack 2,
>> > panned,
>> > multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided = into 64ths
>> > here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount yo= u like. try
>> > 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to s= low down
>> > the
>> > rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts lon= ger.
>> >
>> > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing sc= ript. this
>> > grabs
>> > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >> >
>> > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this = will need
>> > to be
>> > tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out = of sync
>> >
>> > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowi= ng. i just
>> > trigger
>> > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit= it
>> > randomly.
>> > use undo to get out of it
>> >
>> >
>> > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum >> >
>> > sim
>> >
>
>


--000e0cd47ec030c282049d43ba15-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 16:26:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C68F7183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6A7B3E.4090007@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:26:38 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: recording an album References: <4D6A270E.4030804@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D6A270E.4030804@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:26:45 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > Around that time you could get a second hand reel to > reel 4-track for less money. I had plenty of opportunity > use both options, and it seemed like anyone who bought > the cassette version had been seriously fooled by hype. Or, as in the case of Robert Pollard of Guided By Voices, because he actually LIKED the low fidelity of the sound. It's funny, but I still have a wall full of cassettes that I never listen to but here while back, I wanted to listen to a reggae tune that I didn't have on any other medium so I got it out and played it on our really old boom box cassette/fm radio and it was really enjoyable to hear the sound that I spent hundreds of hours listening to at one point in my life. My wife and I actually went on a short kick of getting out old stuff and listening to it in the kitchen in glorious low fidelity. she even bought a really old, monaural cassette deck (built like a tank) which has serious wow because of a slightly bent spindle. You can hear her low fi recording results here..............It's really got a charm to it, to my ears, though it is very low fidelity. www.myspace.com/donebeginner Along those lines, I needed to make a brief recording of my velcroed melodica (for ersatz bagpipe simulations) for Jeroen Ellferich and recorded it on my Nokia phone (which is bottom of the line and TERRIBLE recording quality. The way it overwhelmed the mic caused the coolest of cool sounds and I'm going to use it on the next Vermin Circus record that Chris and I are going to make. I'll send the .mp3 to anyone who is interested. It's just a brief little improv in F Lydian. 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From: Petri Lahtinen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30434492d04519049d47027c Resent-Message-ID: <_zqm6.A.w6H.AvoaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:37:04 +0000 (UTC) --20cf30434492d04519049d47027c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One more ignorant fool, who doesnt know the truth about loopers... ;-) Olivia! The Queen of the Spam hello dearest, i am mis olivia with love and open heart i wish to know you well that we maybe nice friends, if you are interested then contact g.livia98@yahoo.com i saw your id at this site www.loopers-delight.com that we know about our self thanks so much as you write me regards miss olivia g.livia98@yahoo.com -- Petri Lahtinen http://www.petrilahtinen.com http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ --------------------------------------------------- "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- --------------------------------------------------- "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Bukowski- --20cf30434492d04519049d47027c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One more ignorant fool, who doesnt know the truth about loopers... ;-)
<= br>Olivia! The Queen of the Spam



hello dearest,
i am mis = olivia with love and open heart i wish=A0=20 to know you well that we maybe nice friends, if you are interested then=20 contact=A0 g.livia= 98@yahoo.com
i saw your id at this site www.loopers-delight.com
that we kn= ow about our self thanks so much as you write me
regards
miss olivia=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 g.livia98@yahoo.com

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://pet= rilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/= PetriLahtinen
http://pet= rilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
-------------------------------------------= --------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice.&= quot; -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people ne= ver go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Buko= wski-

--20cf30434492d04519049d47027c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 17:52:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 368FA18345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Yg7JDInzDqZoPoNRMQtcKt7ITzxeGglcf4rovZ9Dius=; b=D4MLdnvfTvziE5mtVfhALG48p+/0LTph1Z2iNR8jnfV7Jd8p4PDp4emO7gNr81PQeQ r8DeKROaArWyMsLmZxpEHdDux3fjrFOF7c4/iDUa2AnerUHSWSTdQ3njpaW5QWvXl0G7 jVU+WGbTPe+mZUZSKsoRcZ4kptkINMpaYXbJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=UqzazFH9x3Nl9q4d2OEnlmyQRKDfCkOdtD0jmfftatenNa5OUQEQXcU4pk6r6LfCgJ RG8o77oVfhWbDWNK07RVbVyYmzt7iYLq3fvIYUOxjnE7/rhsvN7iernZ5/0O6nDmSuR3 x1mTFGktN0Vti5FZCx62O//egwwPzRyVU3OB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: todd reynolds Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a69f6773ea049d473974 Resent-Message-ID: <01DlC.A.4R.V9oaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:52:21 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a69f6773ea049d473974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's my bet that all these emails come from guys, not girls, just attemptin= g to drive traffic to specific sites for ad-revenue. It's been fun knocking about some jokes starting with Rick's new girlfriend Judy, but really, thes= e 'guys' or this 'bot' might get fed with our repostings. But then again tha= t might be a total american conspiracy theorist point of view, lol. I got this one too. It ain't no girl, not that that matters. All the best to you, Petri. May these folks lose interest in our list soon= . T. On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen wrote= : > One more ignorant fool, who doesnt know the truth about loopers... ;-) > > Olivia! The Queen of the Spam > > > > hello dearest, > i am mis olivia with love and open heart i wish to know you well that we > maybe nice friends, if you are interested then contact > g.livia98@yahoo.com > i saw your id at this site www.loopers-delight.com > that we know about our self thanks so much as you write me > regards > miss olivia g.livia98@yahoo.com > > -- > Petri Lahtinen > http://www.petrilahtinen.com > http://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/ > http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen > http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen > http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > "Only become professional musician if there is no choice." -Robert Fripp- > --------------------------------------------------- > "Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." > -Charles Bukowski- > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a69f6773ea049d473974 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's my bet that all these emails come from guys, not girls, just attem= pting to drive traffic to specific sites for ad-revenue. =A0It's been f= un knocking about some jokes starting with Rick's new girlfriend Judy, = but really, these 'guys' or this 'bot' might get fed with o= ur repostings. =A0But then again that might be a total american conspiracy = theorist point of view, lol.=A0

I got this one too. =A0It ain't no girl, not that that m= atters.=A0

All the best to you, Petri. =A0May thes= e folks lose interest in our list soon. =A0

T.



On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1= 2:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
One more ignorant fool, who doesnt know the truth about loopers... ;-)
<= br>Olivia! The Queen of the Spam



hello dearest,
i am mis = olivia with love and open heart i wish=A0=20 to know you well that we maybe nice friends, if you are interested then=20 contact=A0 g.livia= 98@yahoo.com
i saw your id at this site www.loopers-delight.com
that we kn= ow about our self thanks so much as you write me
regards
miss olivia=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 g.livia98@yahoo.com

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
http://pet= rilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/= PetriLahtinen
http://pet= rilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
-------------------------------------------= --------
"Only become professional musician if there is no choice.&= quot; -Robert Fripp-
---------------------------------------------------
"Some people ne= ver go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." -Charles Buko= wski-




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=95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on = iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. =A0The CD Relea= se party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0I'd be d= elighted to have you there.=A0

=95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rou= ge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still= available for the newly added show.=A0


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--20cf3054a69f6773ea049d473974-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 17:56:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8DE118345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 118386.11817.bm@omp1033.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298829370; bh=Sv8xe5CTEZRoVOZfsBFg4OAV6vS1aKapHNvNvNvZrVo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xR5FK23Tp0sXu+hABViAOHUk5VWJUZgu2WGuRo4vz6y40FdKbrEpiyvaTyhLQhLWS5kbjszFLRjoOTa4zaGpdajVs4TMNP3h6CtD5ERRSef+pxGhY0EDl0QNIHICWi70hq+yjLzY3hdDA4W9Kb9g3+Id3fmse2cyVroa5Fp4r10= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fujihtie508OaXQjXsgbHw3XCA6NGv5LZkAV45Vgpr2StIDHX+L03/GnvLKfmjawefJQrxqJyI14Nfg/Nhmp9KJC7aBea2feUVvM+fNCka+eexL4HdxMoMH1MBW+r5m+R06RYajw38pzzdikxentNgnZ3klZt+u0wiy0NwzAm7I=; Message-ID: <9320.37764.qm@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ib_E4kMVM1lD_Yz6vrXR6ai6rh4mkxgxiUWoVMgSsr6nvV9 R6xg71dOMkXL9PqCwTwTistFxG4tw.jb5_Xk2F9ClbS1.3qkLaQyQMcn34vz buBV8YXZ6fSrNgnr.xOX9p1JgUshtUybYX6RDA2GJdFRy0Anx.Yt3s6evh.L 6lx6phQlQIh4MXhfzoVrvHbuC9JK4X_gSoAteBJQl4IJfBY9S2V5M3yZcpVR q8agpD0I12j2g8F0Qm8Bv6CwHn6etitRaC.27qMhS_0xhDoHZytTKVn5Wceh 0MOvqeZltvm_XnfMRaTYwZ3gD44MeJZ9I5Q2Pm0Vrxg8iuP8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2108232574-1298829369=:37764" Resent-Message-ID: <5U2NWB.A._Z.9ApaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:56:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-2108232574-1298829369=:37764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable need to rename the list loop soup, loopers-delight sounds sexy:-)=0A=0AAnto= ny=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: todd reynolds =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sun, Febru= ary 27, 2011 6:51:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?)=0A=0AI= t's my bet that all these emails come from guys, not girls, just attempting= to =0Adrive traffic to specific sites for ad-revenue. It's been fun knock= ing about =0Asome jokes starting with Rick's new girlfriend Judy, but reall= y, these 'guys' or =0Athis 'bot' might get fed with our repostings. But th= en again that might be a =0Atotal american conspiracy theorist point of vie= w, lol. =0A=0AI got this one too. It ain't no girl, not that that matters.= =0A=0AAll the best to you, Petri. May these folks lose interest in our li= st soon. =0A=0AT.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Petri La= htinen wrote:=0A=0AOne more ignorant fool, who doesnt = know the truth about loopers... ;-)=0A>=0A>Olivia! The Queen of the Spam=0A= >=0A>=0A>=0A>hello dearest,=0A>i am mis olivia with love and open heart i w= ish to know you well that we maybe =0A>nice friends, if you are intereste= d then contact g.livia98@yahoo.com=0A>i saw your id at this site www.loop= ers-delight.com=0A>that we know about our self thanks so much as you write = me=0A>regards=0A>miss olivia g.livia98@yahoo.com=0A>=0A>-- = =0A>Petri Lahtinen=0A>http://www.petrilahtinen.com=0A>http://petrilahtinen.= blogspot.com/=0A>http://soundcloud.com/petrilahtinen=0A>http://twitter.com/= PetriLahtinen=0A>http://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/=0A>--------------------= -------------------------------=0A>"Only become professional musician if th= ere is no choice." -Robert Fripp-=0A>--------------------------------------= -------------=0A>"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives the= y must lead." -Charles =0A>Bukowski-=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=E2=80=A2 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon av= ailable on iTunes, and is released =0Aon INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. = The CD Release party is scheduled for March =0A16th at ISSUE Project Room. = I'd be delighted to have you there. =0A=0A=E2=80=A2 also, don't forget the= double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe =0AKeating on March 6th! = first show sold out, tix still available for the newly =0Aadded show. =0A= =0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=0Ahttp://toddreynolds.com=0Ahttp://twitter.com/digifiddler=0Ahttp://mys= pace.com/toddreynoldsmusic=0Ahttp://blog.toddreynolds.com=0Ahttp://facebook= .com/toddreynolds=0Ahttp://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds=0A=0A=0A --0-2108232574-1298829369=:37764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
need to rename the list loop soup, loopers-delight sounds sexy:-)=

Antony

From: to= dd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 6:51:58 PM<= br>Subject: Re: Olivia (wh= y do they do this?)

=0AIt's my bet that all these emails come= from guys, not girls, just attempting to drive traffic to specific sites f= or ad-revenue.  It's been fun knocking about some jokes starting with = Rick's new girlfriend Judy, but really, these 'guys' or this 'bot' might ge= t fed with our repostings.  But then again that might be a total ameri= can conspiracy theorist point of view, lol. 
=0A=0A
= I got this one too.  It ain't no girl, not that that matters. 

All the best to you, Petri.  May these folks lo= se interest in our list soon.  

T.
= =0A=0A


On Sun, Feb 27, 201= 1 at 12:37 PM, Petri Lahtinen <aikuinen@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A=0AOne more ignorant fool, who doesnt know the truth abou= t loopers... ;-)

Olivia! The Queen of the Spam



hello = dearest,
i am mis olivia with love and open heart i wish  =0Ato kno= w you well that we maybe nice friends, if you are interested then =0Acontac= t  g.livia98@yahoo.com
= i saw your id at this site www.loopers-delight.com
that we know = about our self thanks so much as you write me
=0A=0A=0Aregards
miss o= livia           &nbs= p;   g.livia98@yahoo.com

--
Petri Lahtinen
http://www.petrilahtinen.com
=0A=0A=0Ahttp://petrilahtinen.blogspot.com/
http://soundcloud.= com/petrilahtinen
http://twitter.com/PetriLahtinen
=0A=0A=0Ahttp://petrilahtinen.bandcamp.com/
-----------------------= ----------------------------
"Only become professional musician if there= is no choice." -Robert Fripp-
=0A=0A=0A--------------------------------= -------------------
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible liv= es they must lead." -Charles Bukowski-

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=0A=0A
=E2=80=A2 also, don't forget the do= uble bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th!  = first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. 

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=0A=0A --0-2108232574-1298829369=:37764-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 19:09:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2FB218345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=r+5AYKmGz0kR/GBADlXsLftyYP+YRtBS/aeyrtCIozk=; b=s/xvddLg6TLf+gFQz2edVSGcetgAZ7DYCO1D8aF9xQHZb6OVxgEB/8KH7nbulw6yDV 0zUrKVfaayokfy4LszWJh/vZptmvn/4GAmJUWMKUKTXSwORuehwbDzqJZVRjv1xAZa+J ascVxUIE3DR1VcICNnaGc80Ljed4E4j+eurDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LqRkn/liuzUEAFFxiLvgZHZFWxeqH902Yk0IcrcnLPAv5u4OsXv+s0Z9DXhDQcCZvw P/1+T9bI62jfBli42r/0FZUmhj+owSmg9eA33Ghl2OflqVQ0KfE3mNlRUaHcN7lmffaC sTJ9NuXpGOZsmZK8iDM3/lb9pzczfkdzw1ksk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:09:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <95j7E.A._JC.fFqaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:09:19 +0000 (UTC) i understand that very well my friend,but id still be interested in the script;-) that is a wonderful trick,in fact i use rate shift as well but i bulid a chord into a loop first and then shift it what i like about this one is that it goes from a single tone to a full chord which made me jump up from my seat und run back i want to try it Simeon please,please! Luis On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > we're back on the list, but that's ok, other people might be looking for > them > > i didn't post the one for chords, but i'll explain how it was done > > i put four tracks into a group and then tied a button on my controller to > drop all four into rec/dub, so i could record a single note on all four at > once > > i then wrote a bunch of short scripts to rateshift each of the four tracks > independently with one hit to make a chord > > i have a bank on my footcontroller to do the group rec/dub, a group fade and > to select all the different scripts. i just step on the buttons as it takes > my fancy to select different chords as i play over the top. > > hope that helps > > sim > > > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> Thanx Simeon,i found most of them though im still looking for the >> "chords" one,i really like that one,could you direct me to it? >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Simeon Harris >> wrote: >> > hi louie. i posted them all on the circular labs forum in the scripts >> > section. they all work for 1.43 (i think), but if you have any problems, >> > please get in touch and i'll see if i can help. >> > http://www.circularlabs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 >> > >> > many thanks! >> > >> > sim >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Louie Angulo >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Simeon, >> >> im just checking out this audio files really great! >> >> do you have the corresponding scripts for them or is there also a link >> >> for me to try them out? >> >> im assuming this all work with v1.43,yeah? >> >> thanx man >> >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Simeon Harris >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > follow the link, ladies and gentlemen... >> >> > >> >> > http://simeonharris.co.uk/audio/mobius/ >> >> > >> >> > the folder contains... >> >> > >> >> > autoreverse4.mp3 >> >> > chords.mp3 >> >> > dropstop.mp3 >> >> > reich.mp3 >> >> > stutter.mp3 >> >> > stutterdrop.mp3 >> >> > windowing.mp3 >> >> > >> >> > autoreverse4 - this is the script rainer asked jeff to fix up. does >> >> > exactly >> >> > what rainer asked for. revers, forward, reverse, forward. i have the >> >> > loop >> >> > divided into 4 chinks here. >> >> > >> >> > chords - this is an example of playing chords with mobius. i record a >> >> > single >> >> > note into four tracks simultaneously and then use scripts bound to >> >> > footswitched to independently rate shift all four tracks to create >> >> > chords. i >> >> > play over the top in this example. i'm not totally happy with the >> >> > chords >> >> > i've created, but i will tweak the scripts in the future. i've put >> >> > this >> >> > here, because per was interested in hearing it, although he already >> >> > uses >> >> > something very similar. >> >> > >> >> > dropstop - created from jeff's windowing script - this one grabs a >> >> > slice >> >> > and >> >> > then repeats it with rate shifts. ends with pause. a fun way to end >> >> > your >> >> > performance >> >> > >> >> > reich - this is my copypan script. track one is copied onto track 2, >> >> > panned, >> >> > multiplied, rate shifted and trimmed. the loop is subdivided into >> >> > 64ths >> >> > here. but you can tweak the script to subdivide any amount you like. >> >> > try >> >> > 127ths for really slow shifts! i think i will tweak this to slow down >> >> > the >> >> > rate of shifting, so that each new rhythmic pattern lasts longer. >> >> > >> >> > stutter - another script created from jeff's windowing script. this >> >> > grabs >> >> > the slice on beat 4 and repeats it to the end of the cycle >> >> > >> >> > stutterdrop - same idea as above, but with rate shifts. this will >> >> > need >> >> > to be >> >> > tweaked, because it makes the loop longer and so puts it out of sync >> >> > >> >> > windowing - jeff's shining script to emulate loop windowing. i just >> >> > trigger >> >> > the script every 4 repetitions for a bit and then kind of hit it >> >> > randomly. >> >> > use undo to get out of it >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > i've posted the scripts over on the circularlabs forum >> >> > >> >> > sim >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 19:10:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14DB18345F; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: D7Ar1g00302goRm0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:10:42 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:10:53 +0000 (UTC) The spam posts often don't come from list subscribers. The list archive is easily scraped for the email addresses of users that post. This is why I change the email address I use to subscribe to ld every so often and explains why only some people get the spam. At 2011/02/27 09:51 AM, todd reynolds wrote: >I got this one too. It ain't no girl, not that that matters. > >All the best to you, Petri. May these folks lose interest in our list soon. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 19:14:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F28FA18345A; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EzB5yf7c7Q4L8OR2xr0aXrdUf+rf0t89DfjojtSazK8=; b=dnQwPDz9L9kBvCiUM8Qy9L6T1fijcgz1IbLpCqBGyfKBdHDMUobgdib5uSuOIEb235 vZPIpmbx6vQmEvpQrWwq6dyISU7/aVQkjAhpdKSEaTQeNKnV1R5xYVLoY7D3q7jgnL2E PEhrSzU164bWnoe1hJOsN0CH7vd8kfAHc/wtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fBcxv5i83vDm3VJU/BG0u2KQsQMtF3wJBfGwD1c/Hm3BYdiiDxZDhODP8V3nwsExG3 i7yxAjs3MYrnlewlZydZiHStmN36x1k9PZQHzpgKGnhNN01KR2GKi1TAXloxydMHiAeL Gzp1tUlj/WfWB1sngYOvYAtWRy0S1Q12Mbbhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:14:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3eApkC.A.QWC.IKqaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:14:16 +0000 (UTC) maybe they are from shemales? 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What truly horrible lives they must lead." >> -Charles Bukowski- >> > > > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is > released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. =A0The CD Release party is > scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. =A0I'd be delighted to ha= ve > you there. > =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Z= oe > Keating on March 6th! =A0first show sold out, tix still available for the > newly added show. > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://toddreynolds.com > http://twitter.com/digifiddler > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://facebook.com/toddreynolds > http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 19:24:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD81183457; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qBzBpXXWdyRafaLtqERZFoKc+Dx2EaNB5yFD+GUBajc=; b=kV0ehbP6WRfDJ0JVFHhooxn9cRR9OZAD/4wMpR4KMxGLOaqbDbJE8ySdp8ibnkCHEF CEAyYVO/oob8uxpfz6QYbyIUOkI7B8qPnyoUvsQ+mC5H5AHafisRFo8BG54vwui1SXp0 hdFLlE0FKznlZSdqYfxlGCLEH504qz27QyD+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=vIdgLUEJJe/g4kzFe3L9zHpbkh3OGnKTeBI+zZVvN6D4iiLtuVBR97NhfyE+Fj8ZQv igMTZWHXxcF49v4wmlTb6M9HhGd3Yc2AAoO/KaDhrHjwys9/AFP1I+dIrXHzpssNKWzr EzvVxZbhmacqq0pj91DuHXIq8JKgSM5U/cAbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:24:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd47ec081e528049d488116 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd47ec081e528049d488116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 well it's very easy. just write a lot of scripts like this... !name group shift 1 Track5 rateshift -12 Track6 rateshift -10 Track7 rateshift -9 Track8 rateshift -5 and change the intervals so you get chords that you like (you can go higher as well as lower, of course. clusters are nice 0, +2, +3, -2 etc, or go for chords built in thirds or fourths for a more "open" sound) then attach each script to a button or pedal don't forget to assign the four tracks you want to use to a group and then you can enable recording on all four at once hope that helps! sim On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > i understand that very well my friend,but id still be interested in > the script;-) > that is a wonderful trick,in fact i use rate shift as well but i bulid > a chord into a loop first and then shift it > what i like about this one is that it goes from a single tone to a > full chord which made me jump up from my seat und run back > i want to try it Simeon please,please! > Luis > > --000e0cd47ec081e528049d488116 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well it's very easy. just write a lot of scripts like this...

!n= ame group shift 1
Track5
rateshift -12
Track6
rateshift -10Track7
rateshift -9
Track8
rateshift -5

and change the int= ervals so you get chords that you like (you can go higher as well as lower,= of course. clusters are nice 0, +2, +3, -2 etc, or go for chords built in = thirds or fourths for a more "open" sound)

then attach each script to a button or pedal

don't forget to= assign the four tracks you want to use to a group and then you can enable = recording on all four at once

hope that helps!

sim

On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Louie Angulo <louie.an= gulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
i understand that very well my friend,but id still be interested in
the script;-)
that is a wonderful trick,in fact i use rate shift as well but i bulid
a chord into a loop first and then shift it
what i like about this one is that it goes from a single tone to a
full chord which made me jump up from my seat und run back
i want to try it Simeon please,please!
Luis

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With all the functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Cos the t= hing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be tweaked, ei= ther by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation routings. >=20 > I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a Korg M= S2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always pre= -programmed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the Korg, o= r a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the best being call= ed, weirdly "Mobius") >=20 > The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be q= uickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation.=20 >=20 > But theres my problem / wish. >=20 > TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS BOTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FREE= LY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED.=20 >=20 > So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes. >=20 > So, to the questions: >=20 > The Kaosilator PRO.=20 > How is it to play..?=20 > Is it a proper "Instrument"=20 > Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within a= key and scale)???=20 KPII has synth sounds too, but not very useful for me. Yes, you play within a= key (don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and scale..., be= tter checking the manual), but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremi= n. And it is good in that department, if you are looking to that kind of sou= nds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really play melodies... So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random". > Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distort= ed acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop...=20= > OR...=20 > Can I quickly loop a little string section,=20 > OR, can I hear a Xylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, select a p= atch, and add some twinkles? >=20 > And Tech questions..=20 > How is it at following midi clock?=20 Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as master clock: it just sends= out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the same MIDI channel. > When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 a= xis?=20 > Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y t= o filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. w= hich I dont know.. have to find the manual.) Again: better checking the manual(s) ! KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those info t= rough different midi channels or the same ? Do you want to get control over different machines ? > Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi= sequncer/looper for an external synth..=20 > And finally,=20 > Whats the on-board audio loopers like? Don't really know about those features, sorry. >=20 Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, m= aybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work like a s= ynth too. -f www.eterogeneo.com > IF ALL GOOD... >=20 > For Sale:=20 >=20 > Red Sound Federation synched Multi effects > Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper and very psychedelic mul= ti band panner, all syncable... >=20 > Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer) > Previously used to automate 2 EDP=C2=B4s >=20 > (or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...) >=20 >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > --=20 > Mark Francombe > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe --Apple-Mail-1-553687532 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I don't have any experience with the &n= bsp;kaossilator, but I own a Kaoss Pad II since 2004, so my experience with t= his kind of products is just related to the KPII.


I have always expounded on this list that I am dreaming of a "Midi L= ooper". With all the functions of an EDP, but.. not audio based. Reasons? Co= s the thing about a synth loop (pre-programmed) is that it can still be twea= ked, either by hand, or by LFO sweep /modulation routings.

I do routinely "audio loop" my synths. (a doepfer modular system, a Korg= MS2000 and the trusty GR30 guitar synth) but for "synth lines" Ive always p= re-programmed them, either via the onboard modulation sequencer of the Korg,= or a variety of analog sequencers I have for the modular (the best being ca= lled, weirdly "Mobius")

The Korg is VERY tweakable, so a relatively standard patch can easily be= quickly manipulated to "fit in" with the current improvisation.

But= theres my problem / wish.

TO HAVE ALL AVAILABLE; WHERE ALL FACTORS B= OTH NOTES AND TIMBRE CAN BE FREELY IMPROVISED, LIVE, AND LOOPED.

So to be able to improvise the synth loop notes.

So, to the quest= ions:

The Kaosilator PRO.
How is it to play..?
Is it a proper= "Instrument"
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly r= andom (within a key and scale)???
KPII ha= s synth sounds too, but not very useful for me. Yes, you play within a key (= don't know if the Kaossilator Pro allow to switch key and scale..., better c= hecking the manual), but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And= it is good in that department, if you are looking to that kind of sounds, b= ut have to say that it's not allow you to really play melodies...
= So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random".

Supposing I have some guitar loops going .. and I imagine a growly distorted= acid bass to pop in for 3 notes, then silent for 4 bars.. then loop...
= OR...
Can I quickly loop a little string section,
OR, can I hear a X= ylophone in my head, and within a few seconds, select a patch, and add some t= winkles?

And Tech questions..
How is it at following midi clock?
<= /div>
Better checking the manual here and see what it reall= y allow to do.
My KP sends midi clock out, but it can't work as ma= ster clock: it just sends out midi messages (PCs and CCs), ALL using the sam= e MIDI channel.

When used as a controller for another syn= th, is all information sent on 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch on an extern= al synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to filter cutoff on the external sy= nth? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont know.. have to find th= e manual.)
Again: better checking the manu= al(s) !
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to a= ddress those info trough different midi channels or the same  ?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Is the midi loop on the Kaosilator SENT out the midi out, making it a midi s= equncer/looper for an external synth..
And finally,
Whats the on-board audio loope= rs like?
Don't really know about those features= , sorry.

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last K= aoss Pad version (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I thi= nk it can work like a synth too.

-f

=
IF ALL GOOD...

For Sale:

Red Sound Federation s= ynched Multi effects
Insanly good loop mangler, delay, filter, chopper an= d very psychedelic multi band panner, all syncable...

Boss Dr Groove 202 (with built in 2 track sequencer)
Previously used t= o automate 2 EDP=C2=B4s

(or swap for a Kaosilator Pro of course...)

Mark





 

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www.ordoabkhao.com
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= --Apple-Mail-1-553687532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 20:24:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 074A1183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JvMpWWkAwlOKsOzPJuJYxphGtl0LrkkU6OjMqhuVlPY=; b=t3/QMYDYF/OF3ymzR82J3OQr4aBVJZDlrLFyv2vCMLuPGALemGsCCiHOdsnuzYalO6 i9ltc0eMK3yyRN90PRpVf6OJEtLpUtCN9uuegpc7FGN+tFX7nzq1lp5dMP9j1v/Xy5zB O1CtVigtih+JixxM3o7xasdWWMQKZPnij5ZwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=R4btFlGqnSEfxj4hjXZj5XKDi7DJZbYqSIldI9wnUpvQTT1IwA88mo+sOwzfAb4ySB cODHovQCwrTSRa73vsswTvUkJls/Z5Kow7vdkLx9558Rl55Ij7wLeeojmrVxk6N/Xhay 4rNzEXOJ+aafZi3Is2Q/LXSe+L97ZFXcv9BZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vIH_JyQsyAYpNzibskt9t35EILo Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba25df771a772f049d4958bb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:24:04 +0000 (UTC) --90e6ba25df771a772f049d4958bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions were quite specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET in the manual... I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (the pro is important) users here. Fabio_ wrote: > Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a > key and scale)??? > > Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale and key.... so the question was rather... is it just a theremin, or can you play a melody Fab said.. > but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And it is good in th= at > department, if you are looking to that kind of sounds, but have to say th= at > it's not allow you to really play melodies... > So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random". > But thats the KP, not the Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here... > > How is it at following midi clock? > > Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. > It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the question... > When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 > axis? > Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y > to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this= .. > which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) > > Again: better checking the manual(s) ! > It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you want from the X and Y and Any of th= e knobs can also be mapped... But what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AUDI= O GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper, and if so DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT SOCKET, so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me, but... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all) i= t might be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer... > KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those in= fo > trough different midi channels or the same ? > Do you want to get control over different machines ? > Yes.. oh yes... Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, > maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work lik= e a > synth too. > Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effect... I have enough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Federation is on EBay RIGHT NOW Heres the listing 260744777822 Mark --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --90e6ba25df771a772f049d4958bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions w= ere quite specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET i= n the manual...

I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocil= ator PRO (the pro is important) users here.

=A0Fabio_ wrote:
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is = it basicaly random (within a key and scale)???

Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" t= o a scale and key.... so the question was rather... is it just a theremin, = or can you play a melody

Fab said..
=A0but the fact is that IT is like playing a = theremin. And it is good in that department, if you are looking to that kin= d of sounds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really play mel= odies...
So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really &= quot;random".

But thats the KP, not t= he Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here...
<= font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"2">
How is it at foll= owing midi clock?
Better checking = the manual here and see what it really allow to do.

It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the ques= tion...
<= font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"2">When used as a contro= ller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis?
Can I map X = to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to filter cut= off on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont= know.. have to find the manual.)
Again: better checking the manual(s) !=

It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you w= ant from the X and Y and Any of the knobs can also be mapped...

But what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AUDI= O GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper,=A0 and if = so=A0 DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT= SOCKET, so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me, but= ... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all) it m= ight be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer...
=A0
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need= to address those info trough different midi channels or the same =A0?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not = the last Kaoss Pad version (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "comple= te" tool ? I think it can work like a synth too.

Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effec= t... I have enough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Federation is on E= Bay RIGHT NOW

Heres the listing 260744777822

Mark


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--90e6ba25df771a772f049d4958bb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 21:15:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC307183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o+xe1BH8vTIRBkUqxIgriRgmsjxHn4JOjkbk37rBCNM=; b=FGy7MoAPT4i9ZlqE2YKA48ayAU2iAHStpa7NWDFEGJik2j+158uBFC/DUcXPYX9ABA QYvzBw2mKIkiLmephrw+buIhen1Zl/U3NmDO0Hc6O1FwevJk9RT74DGtwtLyoDQdgOtW LsiVDNsOcAqcpbmDM5Tcy+8e07uDcdbGaglLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Bn1VCyW4MkFN8kdu0qDAZkkm92PlP6bHJ2d0BeUtnMSayVLXJtJ2n72LIDpniHYuoq xKSO5fdvUhIoN/KUG5MEI8cBgs3hvEoRUhMszhiFSR+AtU7F2n/Zd3ifRK7n09zKmiUV AAhT7a3UpIqNz9lgSb2DZIWVay5FqsnriNoBk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:15:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:31 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Michael Tyson wrote: > What d'you think? Doesn't the iphone give developers the option of using a shake-the-phone gesture to implement commands? How about a preferences setting where the user could decide which command to have executed by shaking the phone? How cool to gaffer tape an iphone on the neck piece of a gibson flying v and go crazy shaking it all over!!!! Will totally end the shoe gazing phase of the live looping culture ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 21:46:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0C8D183460; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 254308.31574.bm@omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298843205; bh=ahr6i2QnhQuPwX1mLwg1YDY+tHEdPAmi5yIO6BVoRz0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SeJinQkdEI8cgLvBGBZ0+h0iQLhUFlJppUx/kMzXZ98tc3wIXLh+VmYAauG8ftWIZuOjz44XW2dHLGD6YfvDOQXyN9m4gJKHFaktZqfN8zvvB1wMWa86tD6Ljk63yvrG5sYLvXwLMwL4fLwOBxlEeRUW6YrUZrITLkEbOXMjbkU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gm8C2cdWNSXZKII65XznU+QOuob8kxWmssa+l23bAxce6gmZ64tl9+MFGST51fSNBn+7PnRV3XugBLdS2iJ710aoZjwBZx6JHQgHTnGftbZ/haZqG2Y4X402Y9HH1iuD2AxMJbccvB8Se1QAEosEI4vdC9FBF343QG0I5mj4CzA=; Message-ID: <133454.40651.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nayjCdEVM1lEDF4bzpDbHaITyFiQ47J3n92Ny1huh9e8Wmt VP0b1yH.N_ShOwLCyU1RzJXPkFYHkeIk.u4R_cG5G6q2Tm30hPnM5Q2BuwIc 8yxWJWJFHCaQzNSb5Q3YBePe7LJPKgOvKwHFi.MnpYAGHxav4p6wz.VQdGnI 0M.A1bzggSlvm4gE7LVSOf6snsWaIpX.f0Mb2cCSLP7SnjPFjnzpwLfQyDT0 atLhMZ.hG_IKsyAIip.SLIYVZ33CdXaNLyOO24dJyO798Q2WMnRMg2yNmwM5 7AV1pALJha.9EPGzvLPDHcRLo6sCeytU2UPYdSrcPj7fBrxE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-804777974-1298843204=:40651" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:46:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-804777974-1298843204=:40651 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Kaossilator pro but I have hardly used it so far. Have a concert c= oming =0Aup and I will integrate it into my setup this time. I will let you= know. The =0Apalyability is quite good and pretty intuitive. Have not used= the MIDI =0Acontroller, MIDI clock aspects yet. Can you really edit up the= sounds. Where did =0Ayou see that?=0A=0AANtony=0A=0A=0A=0A________________= ________________=0AFrom: mark francombe =0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sun, February 27, 2011 9:23:43 PM= =0ASubject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators=0A=0AOK I wasnt lett= ing on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions were =0Aquite sp= ecific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET in the =0Aman= ual...=0A=0AI will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (t= he pro is =0Aimportant) users here.=0A=0A=0A Fabio_ wrote:=0A=0ACan I play = it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within a key =0Aand = scale)??? =0A=0A>>=0A=0AHere I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale and = key.... so the question was =0Arather... is it just a theremin, or can you = play a melody =0A=0A=0A=0AFab said.. =0A=0A but the fact is that IT is like= playing a theremin. And it is good in that =0Adepartment, if you are looki= ng to that kind of sounds, but have to say that it's =0Anot allow you to re= ally play melodies...=0A>So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither re= ally "random".=0A=0ABut thats the KP, not the Kaoscillator... so stilll nee= d an answer here...=0A=0A>>How is it at following midi clock? =0A>>=0A>Bett= er checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.=0A=0AIt SAY= S it does... but.. how well? was the question...=0A=0AWhen used as a contro= ller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis? =0A>>Can I map X= to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to =0A>>filt= er cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. which = I =0A>>dont know.. have to find the manual.)=0A>>=0A>Again: better checking= the manual(s) !=0A=0AIt seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you want from the= X and Y and Any of the knobs =0Acan also be mapped... =0A=0A=0ABut what I = cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AUDIO =0AGRABBI= NG THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper, and if so DOES = =0ATHAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT SOCKET,= so you =0Acan control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me, but... a= s the internal =0Asounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all) it mig= ht be a bonus to drive =0Aanother synth from the sequencer...=0A =0AKP send= s information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those info =0Atro= ugh different midi channels or the same ?=0A>Do you want to get control ov= er different machines ?=0A=0AYes.. oh yes... =0A=0A=0AJust a question: why = the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, =0Amaybe) which seem= s to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work like a =0Asynth too.= =0A=0ANope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effect..= . I have =0Aenough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Federation is on E= Bay RIGHT NOW=0A=0AHeres the listing 260744777822=0A=0AMark=0A=0A=0A-- =0AM= ark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.com=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Ahttp://vimeo.c= om/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no/=0Atwitter @markfrancombe=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-804777974-1298843204=:40651 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Kaossilator pro but I have hardly used it so far. Have a= concert coming up and I will integrate it into my setup this time. I will = let you know. The palyability is quite good and pretty intuitive. Have not = used the MIDI controller, MIDI clock aspects yet. Can you really edit up th= e sounds. Where did you see that?

ANtony

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>= ;
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 9:23:43 PM
Subj= ect: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

= =0AOK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my question= s were quite specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GE= T in the manual...

I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kao= cilator PRO (the pro is important) users here.
=0A=0A
 Fabio_ wrote:
=0A=0A
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within= a key and scale)???
=0A=0A

Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale and key.... = so the question was rather... is it just a theremin, or can you play a melo= dy

Fab said..
=0A=0A
 but the fact is that IT is like = playing a theremin. And it is good in that department, if you are looking t= o that kind of sounds, but have to say that it's not allow you to really pl= ay melodies...
=0A=0A
So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neit= her really "random".

But thats the KP, not= the Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here...
=0A=0A

How is it at following midi clock?
Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.<= /div>=0A=0A

It SAYS it does... but.. how well? w= as the question...
=0A=0A
When used as a controller for= another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch= on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to filter cutoff on t= he external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont know.. = have to find the manual.)
=0A=0A
Aga= in: better checking the manual(s) !

It see= ms to send CC=B4s or whatever you want from the X and Y and Any of the knob= s can also be mapped...

=0ABut what I cant find out, is...(Warning = caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AUDIO GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it s= ome kind of midi looper,  and if so  DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the s= equence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT SOCKET, so you can control anothe= r synth... not a deal-breaker for me, but... as the internal sounds dont se= em that tweakable (maybe not at all) it might be a bonus to drive another s= ynth from the sequencer...
=0A=0A 
KP sends information on Y and X axis, b= ut do you need to address those info trough different midi channels or the = same  ?
=0A=0A
Do you want to get control over different mach= ines ?

Yes.. oh yes...

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Just a ques= tion: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, maybe) whi= ch seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work like a synth to= o.
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Nope I dont think so... I thing t= he KP4 is another synchable effect... I have enough of them already, in fac= t my Red Sound Federation is on EBay RIGHT NOW

Heres the listing 260= 744777822

Mark
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Mark Francombe
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www.ordoabkhao.com
=0A=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no/
=0A=0Atwitter @markfrancombe
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=0A=0A=0A<= br>=0A=0A --0-804777974-1298843204=:40651-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 21:53:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F466183465; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:53:03 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:50:10 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T Video at XFest 03.04.11 Lowell MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'm delighted to announce that I'll be doing video improvisations at 119 Gallery (my favorite perfomance space) on Friday March 4 from 8 until 10:30 PM as part of XFest 2011. XFest is an annual weekend-long festival of mixed -media improvisation hosted by 119 Gallery and curated by Walter Wright. Walter likes to put people in unfamiliar configurations for this event, so I'll be playing with some old friends and a lot of new ones. The musical schedule for my sets is 8:00pm Dustin Carlson - guitar, Forbes Graham - trumpet, Josh Baker - bicycle wheels 8:30pm David Grollman - snare drum, Al Margolis - laptop, Id m Theft Able - voice & objects 9:00pm A-J Cornell - objects, Dave Miller - drums, Stephanie Lak - voice & surprises 9:30pm Dave Ross - guitar, Andrea Pensado - laptop, Lou Cohen - laptop 10:00pm Ras Moshe - reeds, Ben Farley - keyboard, Marc Bisson - guitar & objects and many of them will have dance as well. The full schedule is at http://www.119gallery.org/?p=5409 The Facebook page is at http://www.facebook.com/pages/XFest-2011/167429903292318?sk=wall The entire event is free. Directions can be found at http://www.facebook.com/pages/XFest-2011/167429903292318?sk=wall 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Feb 27 23:38:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97392183465; Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6AE05E.3060203@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:38:06 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: todd reynolds CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-DOqDB.A.KOB.mBuaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:38:14 +0000 (UTC) On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > It's my bet that all these emails come from guys, not girls, just > attempting to drive traffic to specific sites for ad-revenue. It's > been fun knocking about some jokes starting with Rick's new girlfriend > Judy, but really, these 'guys' or this 'bot' might get fed with our > repostings. But then again that might be a total american conspiracy > theorist point of view, lol. > > I got this one too. It ain't no girl, not that that matters. > > All the best to you, Petri. May these folks lose interest in our list > soon. > > T. Good point and we've upset the Rev Fever for which I regret. This is my last post on this thread and I suggest we all follow suit for the sake of the list members who don't find this amusing. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 00:00:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAE8A183474; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4D6AE05E.3060203@cruzio.com> References: <4D6AE05E.3060203@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) (Rick) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:00:23 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=6.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on host.newworlddelivery.com Resent-Message-ID: <1KeoDD.A.0wB.hWuaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:00:33 +0000 (UTC) OK, Once more from Moi and then that's definitely it. I wasn't really "upset". I just thought it was tedious and pointless. Plus, don't we all get ENOUGH SPAM as it is already? I sure as hell do! I just saw no point in adding to our daily unwanted and awful tasting spam sandwiches via LD, even as something "OT". OK, now onto far better things.... :-) Shredded Wheat, Rev. Fever, Portland, OR The Angry Red Planet On Feb 27, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Good point and we've upset the Rev Fever for which I regret. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 00:12:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57AF8183475; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) (Rick) References: <4D6AE05E.3060203@cruzio.com> From: "Andy Owens" thread-topic: Olivia (why do they do this?) (Rick) thread-index: AcvW3DuZZvp+lSdvS1islvp9Z93sOQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <942079A1-1E6A-4A2D-A2D9-C950CAA04FC6@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:11:36 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2011 00:12:49.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BB8D830:01CBD6DC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Hey, at least funnier than most all the OTs we been on!!!! Man, I am shaking, sweating, itching, blurred vision, man these LP1 withdraw= al symptoms are rough!!!! Andy On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:00 PM, "Revfever" wrote: > OK, Once more from Moi and then that's definitely it. I wasn't really "ups= et". I just thought it was tedious and pointless. Plus, don't we all get ENO= UGH SPAM as it is already? > I sure as hell do! I just saw no point in adding to our daily unwanted an= d awful tasting spam sandwiches via LD, even as something "OT". OK, now ont= o far better things.... :-) >=20 > Shredded Wheat, > Rev. Fever, > Portland, OR > The Angry Red Planet >=20 > On Feb 27, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Good point and we've upset the Rev Fever for which I regret. >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 00:19:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1201818345F; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Subject: Re: Olivia (why do they do this?) References: From: "Andy Owens" thread-topic: Olivia (why do they do this?) thread-index: AcvW3SNjCbUiYeJQS1ehANgLinVOhA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <38A7A6C5-1BC1-41B0-BBB0-F55B7D3819C5@1800dialword.com> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:13:33 -0500 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2011 00:19:18.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[23A9ACF0:01CBD6DD] Resent-Message-ID: <50kW9C.A.GVC.HouaNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:19:19 +0000 (UTC) The worst are the penis enlargement emails. My wife said "how do they know?!= ?!?" ;( Andy o Last comment!!= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 03:23:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83CD218345F; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e94170a0-5d9a-4ac8-aef9-90216f16e50e_" X-Originating-IP: [173.96.255.233] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: re: FRO vs SXSW Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:23:06 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2011 03:23:06.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0A479D0:01CBD6F6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:23:07 +0000 (UTC) --_e94170a0-5d9a-4ac8-aef9-90216f16e50e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @ mark - yup! recorded live in the half of the garage that used to be my st= udio/living space =3Bo) i now live and pracgice out of my van=2C so future videos will reflect this= new environment- @ louie long time to see homie=2C=20 ill do my best to give ya some insight- thank you for the compliments- i was about 2 years into this adventure when= i discovered ryen for the first time.... was truly breathtaking then when i found dubfx=2C it gave me hope i could have the same success in= a mobile environment...so far so good =3Bo) vocal sounds =3D POD X3 keyboard sounds =3D roland fantom with lots of SRX expansions drum sounds =3D roland fantom=2C but with custom samples - alesis AI3 trigg= er i/o FBC is the only thing that controls mobius mobius does indeed do all my tone switching for me.... i did not implement = this until about 6 months ago...at the end of the day i realized im a loope= r=2C not a tap dancer =3Bo) i do play to a click as i could not leave the tempo of the song up to my hu= man error.... if the tempo is off by 1-2 BPMS i go crazy... this does limit what i can do=2C but i look forward to finding ways to chan= ge tempos w/ mobius in the future i dont play out with it very often as it seems counter productive=2C i can = reach more people via the internet than i can playing small clubs- hopefully building an internet fan base will lead to the ability to tour=2C= as i desperately wish i was performing live every night set up time depends on the scenario..... if my van is directly outside of the club=2C by myself i can load in and st= art the first song in 25-30 minutes.=20 if my gear is already side of stage and partially put together=2C 10-15 min= utes up and down- in the future=2C when production is possible=2C i will fit on a 8 x 8 drum = riser and can be rolled on & off stage at will....so literally 60 seconds o= n and off as i only have 2 audio lines going to FOH...im hoping to land a g= ig as an MC for a festival type show where i come out and entertain between= bands- ive been a roadie/audio engineer most of my life=2C so i do exceed in the s= etup/tear down aspect of everything-=20 looms are key....a roll of electrical tape goes a long way hope that helps man=2C keep on truckin fro = --_e94170a0-5d9a-4ac8-aef9-90216f16e50e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @ mark - yup! recorded live in the half of the garage that used to be my st= udio/living space =3Bo)
i now live and pracgice out of my van=2C so futu= re videos will reflect this new environment-

@ louie

long time to see homie=2C
ill do my best to give ya some= insight-


thank you for the compliments- i was about 2 years int= o this adventure when i discovered ryen for the first time.... was truly br= eathtaking
then when i found dubfx=2C it gave me hope i could have the s= ame success in a mobile environment...so far so good =3Bo)

vocal sou= nds =3D POD X3
keyboard sounds =3B =3D roland fantom with lots of SR= X expansions
drum sounds =3D roland fantom=2C but with custom samples - = alesis AI3 trigger i/o

FBC is the only thing that controls mobiusmobius does indeed do all my tone switching for me.... i did not implement= this until about 6 months ago...at the end of the day i realized im a loop= er=2C not a tap dancer =3Bo)

i do play to a click as i could not lea= ve the tempo of the song up to my human error.... if the tempo is off by 1-= 2 BPMS i go crazy...
this does limit what i can do=2C but i look forward= to finding ways to change tempos w/ mobius in the future

i dont pla= y out with it very often as it seems counter productive=2C i can reach more= people via the internet than i can playing small clubs-
hopefully build= ing an internet fan base will lead to the ability to tour=2C as i desperate= ly wish i was performing live every night

set up time depends on the= scenario.....

if my van is directly outside of the club=2C by mysel= f i can load in and start the first song in 25-30 minutes.
if my gear i= s already side of stage and partially put together=2C 10-15 minutes up and = down-

in the future=2C when production is possible=2C i will fit on = a 8 x 8 drum riser and can be rolled on &=3B off stage at will....so lit= erally 60 seconds on and off as i only have 2 audio lines going to FOH...im= hoping to land a gig as an MC for a festival type show where i come out an= d entertain between bands-

ive been a roadie/audio engineer most of = my life=2C so i do exceed in the setup/tear down aspect of everything-
= looms are key....a roll of electrical tape goes a long way

hope that= helps man=2C keep on truckin

fro
= --_e94170a0-5d9a-4ac8-aef9-90216f16e50e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 06:00:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B6CE18345F; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E7zpDR8U90JvdAyDQjWW0OtAwQqRnrIvgWUR+5ZmHGQ=; b=Pma1B+jDyyb7TPCxmxeQPSRkWZbhkFItBvSt1rEvXuOEGN5i+LoQIf/ai+YpFj19jb PitW2/u9cx2XogTUhnKnyrCf1VdUL2Ao2Q7pHwg3xWCixYecTW51RXzOCFIM6pOlOKG0 I2yNadA/QtIOuLn9ErH+R4Maqh2sPz6Vy2d5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bDKGoC5y6Qz9MPseFHLq5yKHU8l6h3uoi3XDdMjy/HmqENP6fElWz7b38kJe9Yo+CB b2bNgXpWKa2xXPzoZgITJ0/kdn6LG+tQGVSo7MbGnR58WKm2+iv4MqhbQEKCzLCL7tb2 sXuxrXy577QjohEJBHdpxPH7k75UPMGVuct6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:00:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO vs SXSW From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:00:54 +0000 (UTC) cheers Fro,im still curious how you have the computer mounted,what system are u sing? On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:23 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > @ mark - yup! recorded live in the half of the garage that used to be my > studio/living space ;o) > i now live and pracgice out of my van, so future videos will reflect this > new environment- > > @ louie > > long time to see homie, > ill do my best to give ya some insight- > > > thank you for the compliments- i was about 2 years into this adventure wh= en > i discovered ryen for the first time.... was truly breathtaking > then when i found dubfx, it gave me hope i could have the same success in= a > mobile environment...so far so good ;o) > > vocal sounds =3D POD X3 > keyboard sounds=A0 =3D roland fantom with lots of SRX expansions > drum sounds =3D roland fantom, but with custom samples - alesis AI3 trigg= er > i/o > > FBC is the only thing that controls mobius > mobius does indeed do all my tone switching for me.... i did not implemen= t > this until about 6 months ago...at the end of the day i realized im a > looper, not a tap dancer ;o) > > i do play to a click as i could not leave the tempo of the song up to my > human error.... if the tempo is off by 1-2 BPMS i go crazy... > this does limit what i can do, but i look forward to finding ways to chan= ge > tempos w/ mobius in the future > > i dont play out with it very often as it seems counter productive, i can > reach more people via the internet than i can playing small clubs- > hopefully building an internet fan base will lead to the ability to tour,= as > i desperately wish i was performing live every night > > set up time depends on the scenario..... > > if my van is directly outside of the club, by myself i can load in and st= art > the first song in 25-30 minutes. > if my gear is already side of stage and partially put together, 10-15 > minutes up and down- > > in the future, when production is possible, i will fit on a 8 x 8 drum ri= ser > and can be rolled on & off stage at will....so literally 60 seconds on an= d > off as i only have 2 audio lines going to FOH...im hoping to land a gig a= s > an MC for a festival type show where i come out and entertain between ban= ds- > > ive been a roadie/audio engineer most of my life, so i do exceed in the > setup/tear down aspect of everything- > looms are key....a roll of electrical tape goes a long way > > hope that helps man, keep on truckin > > fro > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 08:08:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2112B18345A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 577225491/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/88.109.19.9/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 88.109.19.9 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-Originating-Country: GB/UNITED KINGDOM X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag4CALHmak1YbRMJ/2dsb2JhbAAMmCXKIoVhBI9P X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,238,1297036800"; d="scan'208";a="577225491" Message-ID: <4D6B580A.6010307@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:08:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_RemUC.A.HmE.6f1aNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:08:26 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: in fact my Red Sound Federation is on EBay > RIGHT NOW > > Heres the listing 260744777822 tempting, ...just out of budget I have the Dark Star synth ( almost identical hardware ) and that's a lot of fun. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 08:10:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F147F18345A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=73evWJb74CVwTHdKUo8UKeHHHsoSTBJDJgFBcan6g40=; b=T6AFYfuN1rfygXEJDpDXaqNvsZWYRWyuWkj0QvTLhBTcNc4YygUOl8Bc2ciO7YV5IP hnyEvz9wwqlHMc3nLWVmf8zPT5CgtjgJXPIla2mmwUE/10HVO+eX/HFg3FNNKTX58xEY DoqZ5GNOhbsJV/4vQdu+W8yZ/w+or+saPwn4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=NgmKIrbMBZ3KyzPQOVBek+fDDOD2bUaI/sGosPk4LjtLG4MKyWfe1qKEAAR/jTxJub vk/8dAWATZRpO17/CimBgjl10Fl2Y63BJwwDiZfJKF0UWxx8huxxkkOaOHxuC1G0557s OPRlKcc3VzJUx73eEce8Bp0dHvooNAB2sWNGo= References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <133454.40651.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: <133454.40651.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:09:17 +0100 Message-ID: <-92009704712698658@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf304346b609b447049d5335c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:10:05 +0000 (UTC) --20cf304346b609b447049d5335c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought I said the sounds were nit very tweakable... Maybe not at all, yes ... Please let me know how it integrates with your gear... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 27 Feb 2011, at 22:46, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: Can you really edit up the sounds. Where did you see that? --20cf304346b609b447049d5335c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=A0Can you really edit up the sounds. Where did you see that?

--20cf304346b609b447049d5335c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 12:51:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C57C3183460; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Looper developer looking for opinions on some interface questions From: Michael Tyson In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:43 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0D366B82-31DF-4E93-B857-52D520B431B9@atastypixel.com> <0D712BA6-9432-4133-B223-4658AC0CA0C8@mac.com> <84CB26B6-7667-4365-A7BF-3CCC87706601@mac.com> <79137568-3FC1-4E59-ACF2-57A2E4F35359@atastypixel.com> <36372E91-833E-4142-8162-72C493BFB93B@atastypixel.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rona.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - atastypixel.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Hahah awesome! That way lies voided warranties and cracked iPhone = screens, I suspect ;-) One thing I've been thinking of doing is not so much *shaking*, but = definitely using the accelerometer to trigger actions: So, you pop the = iPhone down beside your foot (presumably with an external mic/headset = plugged in), or as you say, tape it to something, and then tap your foot = beside it (or give the mic stand a nudge!) to punch in and out =3D) On 27 Feb 2011, at 21:15, Per Boysen wrote: > Doesn't the iphone give developers the option of using a > shake-the-phone gesture to implement commands? How about a preferences > setting where the user could decide which command to have executed by > shaking the phone? >=20 > How cool to gaffer tape an iphone on the neck piece of a gibson flying > v and go crazy shaking it all over!!!! Will totally end the shoe > gazing phase of the live looping culture ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 13:51:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDFF3183460; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OihIM/MhFtOu05DMpE4wZvTJbqcfXpKGGyc034yfj0Y=; b=ZTCv1mJDt43C+N/1HcwlcuGa/PisJC9IsXkwEAnhpSJsKdOQm9lMD6l99EfVvsYXUf 1F+FurjDL/Ys5YxJPmXRPN08a4xUeMgKYsRPy5+q2rScNtDl6olljfjWq6A27C5tbEG3 uTJN3KGykg1m/kimHmKH40Nh0xfQnnNsJsnCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qKQdjgLskq0qLGr9++fNQgjFabpSnPMnjeE5ZecW7IdiUfBIR1bXrkoVsTbUP+0Voe ez9xEqFEDUNYhTzuUrJpfuIuQNHGGYlpbZPImJARctukWEbDPDLEYJqU7qYJ2R8qEh7p 6m01Mt6o9gC5+dvd/uD8BkjGUpBMvsaed111A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:41:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mobius scripts audio examples From: Louie Angulo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:51:01 +0000 (UTC) thanx simeon ill give that a try! On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well it's very easy. just write a lot of scripts like this... > > !name group shift 1 > Track5 > rateshift -12 > Track6 > rateshift -10 > Track7 > rateshift -9 > Track8 > rateshift -5 > > and change the intervals so you get chords that you like (you can go higher > as well as lower, of course. clusters are nice 0, +2, +3, -2 etc, or go for > chords built in thirds or fourths for a more "open" sound) > > then attach each script to a button or pedal > > don't forget to assign the four tracks you want to use to a group and then > you can enable recording on all four at once > > hope that helps! > > sim > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Louie Angulo > wrote: >> >> i understand that very well my friend,but id still be interested in >> the script;-) >> that is a wonderful trick,in fact i use rate shift as well but i bulid >> a chord into a loop first and then shift it >> what i like about this one is that it goes from a single tone to a >> full chord which made me jump up from my seat und run back >> i want to try it Simeon please,please! >> Luis >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 15:57:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6CC1183461; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 585 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:57:43 UTC X-libjamoibt: 1419 Message-ID: <15548844.2897831298908076819.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:47:56 +0100 (CET) From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: Massimo Liverani To: Subject: O.T.? A new loopers musicians collective work by Massimo Liverani MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_274080_13145589.1298908076818" X-SenderIP: 85.47.237.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:57:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_274080_13145589.1298908076818 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, loopers give a look and listen to my new work: Binaural Relaxations with the collaboration of Fabio, Per, Michael, Sjaak and Enrico! http://www.laverna.net/releases/Lav38.html Thank you! Massimo ------=_Part_274080_13145589.1298908076818 Content-Type: text/html;charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hey, loopers give a look and listen to my new work: Binaural Relaxations

with the collaboration of Fabio, Per, Michael, Sjaak and Enrico!


http://www.laverna.net/releases/Lav38.html


Thank you!

Massimo



------=_Part_274080_13145589.1298908076818-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 16:00:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBE06183457; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.32 at arsenic; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:07 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_aceb5249-d21a-4506-b33d-2289efc5df42_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:55:04 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2011 15:55:05.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE0DEA70:01CBD75F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) --_aceb5249-d21a-4506-b33d-2289efc5df42_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C I'll come off the bench on this one. I own and use the Ko Pro heavily in my practice. I run it synced to my EDP setup. here are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions ( i havent ha= d time to read the full thread) in my opinion you CAN play a melody. the nuance is not "too" dissimilate to= a fretless guitar or violin in that while there are no markers (annoyingly= the lights are currantly just for show the grid means nothing(ish) *) I mainly use the pentatonic major and minor scales and I tend to limit my o= ctave range to 2 max as this leaves me with a useable amount of notes to pl= ay with and enough room between note transitions to make my gestures meani= ngful. also it is worth mentioning a trick I sure which I call "finger anchoring" = if you touch and hold one point on the pad=2C the halve between that and= any other point ... its hard to explain but for instance if hold your fin= ger down at the halfway point you would have double the room to put your = next finger down and releasing the first finger would send the note back t= o its original resolution there for twice as high again so lets say if the= scale fit you could hold your finger down on "root" you would then have t= wice as much wiggle room to anticipate where a "3rd" would be =2C then by = leagin that 2nd finger where it is but lifting 1st finger you would hear th= e sound jump to "5th" (if the scale fit). another more visual example of what I mean...most mouse touchpads work the = same way...try it. re midi clock / sync it seems pretty capable of following reasonable clock speeds...it bpm drops= too low the amount of available bars halfs so watch out for that. =20 its also important to note=2C it syncs to clock but has no concept of align= ment or start points. if your timing is good and you bet the beat excact it= will run and run in good alignment...if you get it an 8th off or whatever = it will be an 8th off forever (or until realigned. i find i have no worries creating melodys in time to my echoplex and if t= he beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY=2C no worries... but i was to try to l= ayer a KoPro drum routine to ...for instance my Alignment aware Electribe.= .. my own personal results are a bit messy. same goes for if I stop ALL loo= ps. if i stop any of the other three loops while one is left running it ba= sically acts like mute/unmute... however if you turn alll four off=2C then = turning them back on is like a non aligned start song message =2C if that m= akes sense. ...ie it relys on your own personal timeing. Ext control is JUST that... no looping onboard while doing this. and by def= ault no horazontal axis just notes along the vertical... but there is a too= l to mess with this on the pc i think.=20 to answer caps it is just an audio looper =2C complete with phasing etc... no midi is stor= ed... no meaningful midinotes are transmissed in loop mode.. the two are se= parate. hope that helps Phill * you can realign your KoPro to match the qrid better... there is a guide f= or this on the korg user forum=20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Sun=2C 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100 Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com OK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions w= ere quite specific actually=2C cos they related to things I didnt quite GET= in the manual... I will expand=2C But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (the pro is = important) users here. Fabio_ wrote: Can I play it=2C and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a key and scale)???=20 Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale and key.... so the question = was rather... is it just a theremin=2C or can you play a melody=20 Fab said..=20 but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And it is good in that= department=2C if you are looking to that kind of sounds=2C but have to say= that it's not allow you to really play melodies... So it's not a "proper instrument"=2C IMO=2C neither really "random". But thats the KP=2C not the Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here..= . How is it at following midi clock?=20 Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the question... When used as a controller for another synth=2C is all information sent on 2= axis?=20 Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y t= o filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this.. = which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) Again: better checking the manual(s) ! It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you want from the X and Y and Any of th= e knobs can also be mapped...=20 But what I cant find out=2C is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AU= DIO GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper=2C and i= f so DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT= SOCKET=2C so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me=2C= but... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all) = it might be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer... KP sends information on Y and X axis=2C but do you need to address those i= nfo trough different midi channels or the same ? Do you want to get control over different machines ? Yes.. oh yes...=20 Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4= =2C maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work l= ike a synth too. Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effect... I ha= ve enough of them already=2C in fact my Red Sound Federation is on EBay RIG= HT NOW Heres the listing 260744777822 Mark --=20 Mark Francombe www.markfrancombe.comwww.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe = --_aceb5249-d21a-4506-b33d-2289efc5df42_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok=2C I'll come off the bench on this one.

I own and use the Ko Pro = heavily in my practice.

I run it synced to my EDP setup.

here= are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions ( i havent had ti= me to read the full thread)

in my opinion you CAN play a melody. the= nuance is not "too" dissimilate to a fretless guitar or violin in that whi= le there are no markers (annoyingly the lights are currantly just for show = the grid means nothing(ish) *)
I mainly use the pentatonic major and min= or scales and I tend to limit my octave range to 2 max as this leaves me wi= th a useable amount of notes to play with =3B and enough room between n= ote transitions to make my gestures meaningful.
also it is worth mention= ing a trick I sure which I call "finger anchoring"  =3B if you =3B = touch and hold one point on the pad=2C the halve between that and any other= point ... its hard to explain but for instance if =3B hold your finger= down =3B at the halfway point =3B you would have double the room t= o put your next finger down =3B and releasing the first finger would se= nd the note back to its original resolution there for twice as high again&n= bsp=3B so lets say if the scale fit you could hold your finger down on = =3B "root" you would then have twice as much wiggle room to anticipate wher= e a "3rd" would be =2C then by =3B leagin that 2nd finger where it is b= ut lifting 1st finger you would hear the sound jump to "5th" (if the scale = fit).

another more visual example of what I mean...most mouse touchp= ads work the same way...try it.


re midi clock / sync


= it seems pretty capable of following reasonable clock speeds...it bpm drops= too low the amount of available bars halfs so watch out for that. =3B =

its also important to note=2C it syncs to clock but has no concept = of alignment or start points. if your timing is good and you bet the beat e= xcact it will run and run in good alignment...if you get it an 8th off or w= hatever it will be an 8th off forever (or until realigned.


i fin= d i have no worries creating melodys =3B in time to my echoplex =3B= and if the beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY=2C no worries... but i was to= try to layer a KoPro drum routine to ...for instance my =3B Alignment = aware Electribe... my own personal results are a bit messy. same goes for i= f I stop ALL loops. =3B if i stop any of the other three loops while on= e is left running it basically acts like mute/unmute... however if you turn= alll four off=2C then turning them back on is like a non aligned start son= g message =2C if that makes sense. ...ie it relys on your own personal time= ing.


Ext control is JUST that... no looping onboard while doing = this. and by default no horazontal axis just notes along the vertical... bu= t there is a tool to mess with this on the pc i think.


 =3B= to answer caps
it is just an audio looper =2C complete with phasing etc.= .. no midi is stored... no meaningful midinotes are transmissed in loop mod= e.. the two are separate.



hope that helps

Phill
* you can realign your KoPro to match the qrid better... there is a guide= for this on the korg user forum

From: mark= @markfrancombe.com
Date: Sun=2C 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100
Subject: R= e: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com

OK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the ma= nual.. my questions were quite specific actually=2C cos they related to thi= ngs I didnt quite GET in the manual...

I will expand=2C But Im feeli= ng like we have no Kaocilator PRO (the pro is important) users here.

 =3BFabio_ w= rote:
Can I play it=2C and get what I imagine.. or is it ba= sicaly random (within a key and scale)???

Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale = and key.... so the question was rather... is it just a theremin=2C or can y= ou play a melody

Fab said..
 =3Bbut the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And i= t is good in that department=2C if you are looking to that kind of sounds= =2C but have to say that it's not allow you to really play melodies...
So it's not a "proper instrument"=2C IMO=2C neither really "random".

But thats the KP=2C not the Kaoscillator...= so stilll need an answer here...

How is it at following midi clock?
Better checking the manual here and see wha= t it really allow to do.

It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the ques= tion...
When used as a controller for another synth=2C i= s all information sent on 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch on an external s= ynth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y to filter cutoff on the external synth= ? (If my external synth allows this.. which I dont know.. have to find the = manual.)
Again: better checking the manual(s) !=

It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you w= ant from the X and Y and Any of the knobs can also be mapped...

But what I cant find out=2C is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AU= DIO GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper=2C = =3B and if so =3B DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO = OUT THE MIDI OUT SOCKET=2C so you can control another synth... not a deal-b= reaker for me=2C but... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (ma= ybe not at all) it might be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequenc= er...
 =3B
KP sends information on Y and X axis=2C but do you need to= address those info trough different midi channels or the same  =3B?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad v= ersion (4=2C maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it c= an work like a synth too.

Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effec= t... I have enough of them already=2C in fact my Red Sound Federation is on= EBay RIGHT NOW

Heres the listing 260744777822

Mark


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http://www.looop.no
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= --_aceb5249-d21a-4506-b33d-2289efc5df42_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 16:21:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22E4118345A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4084fYWVOflloyvc2ylnSeeCE7cuwgIhmIx50iE8STg=; b=hjgT6DG1Mx8kwKD8mkTFZv2nronY2my20gm0K3+IvJulumAugju6ivi7HUD4+8ztjd q7tLi5qA+J5peER9iY3WCujKf/LpUIMGHQgEchzg5bwRAxLRGCx8NypCywNUTfuizhO9 XumDP2258tVVDOi1EOqtjjUUN7lBXUtgfVoPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=IM4AizrMEc8xhKyYK8+BEuAd+ws45hfuETbRUWr8FOvQd+CPebvGibV+YAFGAFmGqP l8QowzfMaWfA0SaoolZkAZ6FitnfEKFJg1i3F+W8QkuVQKR9f5wuEP/b6+kISBIkNDv0 Mkg79AZvUVux321E/iECLCgc5so4yNk8m9nLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:21:22 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: upPM4JwkNg1ZQPwHMSE_xFkyRig Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8c503e844b049d5a13c8 Resent-Message-ID: <-8TlkD.A.5rG.Xu8aNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:21:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8c503e844b049d5a13c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VERY Useful Phillip! Thanks ALOT!! Its looking VERY interesting to me actually... shame about no MIDI LOOPING... So.. That feature is still on the drawing board... anyone out there wants to join forces and manufacture a midi looper? We=B4ve discussed this many times...There are many drawbacks in midi loopin= g, mostly that there is a huge likelyhood of stuck notes. but still weird no one has attempted it! Mark On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, phillip wilson wr= ote: > Ok, I'll come off the bench on this one. > > I own and use the Ko Pro heavily in my practice. > > I run it synced to my EDP setup. > > here are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions ( i havent > had time to read the full thread) > > in my opinion you CAN play a melody. the nuance is not "too" dissimilate = to > a fretless guitar or violin in that while there are no markers (annoyingl= y > the lights are currantly just for show the grid means nothing(ish) *) > I mainly use the pentatonic major and minor scales and I tend to limit my > octave range to 2 max as this leaves me with a useable amount of notes to > play with and enough room between note transitions to make my gestures > meaningful. > also it is worth mentioning a trick I sure which I call "finger anchoring= " > if you touch and hold one point on the pad, the halve between that and > any other point ... its hard to explain but for instance if hold your > finger down at the halfway point you would have double the room to put > your next finger down and releasing the first finger would send the note > back to its original resolution there for twice as high again so lets sa= y > if the scale fit you could hold your finger down on "root" you would the= n > have twice as much wiggle room to anticipate where a "3rd" would be , the= n > by leagin that 2nd finger where it is but lifting 1st finger you would h= ear > the sound jump to "5th" (if the scale fit). > > another more visual example of what I mean...most mouse touchpads work th= e > same way...try it. > > > re midi clock / sync > > > it seems pretty capable of following reasonable clock speeds...it bpm dro= ps > too low the amount of available bars halfs so watch out for that. > > its also important to note, it syncs to clock but has no concept of > alignment or start points. if your timing is good and you bet the beat > excact it will run and run in good alignment...if you get it an 8th off o= r > whatever it will be an 8th off forever (or until realigned. > > > i find i have no worries creating melodys in time to my echoplex and if > the beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY, no worries... but i was to try to > layer a KoPro drum routine to ...for instance my Alignment aware > Electribe... my own personal results are a bit messy. same goes for if I > stop ALL loops. if i stop any of the other three loops while one is left > running it basically acts like mute/unmute... however if you turn alll fo= ur > off, then turning them back on is like a non aligned start song message ,= if > that makes sense. ...ie it relys on your own personal timeing. > > > Ext control is JUST that... no looping onboard while doing this. and by > default no horazontal axis just notes along the vertical... but there is = a > tool to mess with this on the pc i think. > > > to answer caps > it is just an audio looper , complete with phasing etc... no midi is > stored... no meaningful midinotes are transmissed in loop mode.. the two = are > separate. > > > > hope that helps > > Phill > > * you can realign your KoPro to match the qrid better... there is a guide > for this on the korg user forum > > ------------------------------ > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100 > > Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > OK I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions > were quite specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GE= T > in the manual... > > I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (the pro is > important) users here. > > Fabio_ wrote: > > Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a > key and scale)??? > > > Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a scale and key.... so the questio= n > was rather... is it just a theremin, or can you play a melody > > Fab said.. > > but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And it is good in th= at > department, if you are looking to that kind of sounds, but have to say th= at > it's not allow you to really play melodies... > So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really "random". > > > But thats the KP, not the Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here..= . > > > How is it at following midi clock? > > Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do. > > > It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the question... > > When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 > axis? > Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y > to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows this= .. > which I dont know.. have to find the manual.) > > Again: better checking the manual(s) ! > > > It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you want from the X and Y and Any of = the > knobs can also be mapped... > > But what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST > AUDIO GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper, and= if > so DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT > SOCKET, so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me, > but... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all)= it > might be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer... > > > KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those in= fo > trough different midi channels or the same ? > Do you want to get control over different machines ? > > > Yes.. oh yes... > > Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (= 4, > maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work lik= e a > synth too. > > > Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable effect... I > have enough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Federation is on EBay > RIGHT NOW > > Heres the listing 260744777822 > > Mark > > > -- > *Mark Francombe* > www.markfrancombe.com > www.ordoabkhao.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://www.looop.no > twitter @markfrancombe > --=20 *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016363b8c503e844b049d5a13c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VERY Useful Phillip! Thanks ALOT!!
Its looking VERY interesting to me a= ctually... shame about no MIDI LOOPING... So.. That feature is still on the= drawing board... anyone out there wants to join forces and manufacture a m= idi looper?

We=B4ve discussed this many times...There are many drawbacks in midi lo= oping, mostly that there is a huge likelyhood of stuck notes. but still wei= rd no one has attempted it!

Mark


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ok, I'll come off the bench on this one.

I own and use the Ko Pr= o heavily in my practice.

I run it synced to my EDP setup.

he= re are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions ( i havent had = time to read the full thread)

in my opinion you CAN play a melody. the nuance is not "too" = dissimilate to a fretless guitar or violin in that while there are no marke= rs (annoyingly the lights are currantly just for show the grid means nothin= g(ish) *)
I mainly use the pentatonic major and minor scales and I tend to limit my o= ctave range to 2 max as this leaves me with a useable amount of notes to pl= ay with=A0 and enough room between note transitions to make my gestures mea= ningful.
also it is worth mentioning a trick I sure which I call "finger anchor= ing" =A0 if you=A0 touch and hold one point on the pad, the halve betw= een that and any other point ... its hard to explain but for instance if=A0= hold your finger down=A0 at the halfway point=A0 you would have double the= room to put your next finger down=A0 and releasing the first finger would = send the note back to its original resolution there for twice as high again= =A0 so lets say if the scale fit you could hold your finger down on=A0 &quo= t;root" you would then have twice as much wiggle room to anticipate wh= ere a "3rd" would be , then by=A0 leagin that 2nd finger where it= is but lifting 1st finger you would hear the sound jump to "5th"= (if the scale fit).

another more visual example of what I mean...most mouse touchpads work = the same way...try it.


re midi clock / sync


it seems = pretty capable of following reasonable clock speeds...it bpm drops too low = the amount of available bars halfs so watch out for that.=A0

its also important to note, it syncs to clock but has no concept of ali= gnment or start points. if your timing is good and you bet the beat excact = it will run and run in good alignment...if you get it an 8th off or whateve= r it will be an 8th off forever (or until realigned.


i find i have no worries creating melodys=A0 in time to my echoplex= =A0 and if the beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY, no worries... but i was t= o try to layer a KoPro drum routine to ...for instance my=A0 Alignment awar= e Electribe... my own personal results are a bit messy. same goes for if I = stop ALL loops.=A0 if i stop any of the other three loops while one is left= running it basically acts like mute/unmute... however if you turn alll fou= r off, then turning them back on is like a non aligned start song message ,= if that makes sense. ...ie it relys on your own personal timeing.


Ext control is JUST that... no looping onboard while doing this. an= d by default no horazontal axis just notes along the vertical... but there = is a tool to mess with this on the pc i think.


=A0to answer cap= s
it is just an audio looper , complete with phasing etc... no midi is stored= ... no meaningful midinotes are transmissed in loop mode.. the two are sepa= rate.



hope that helps

Phill

* you can realign = your KoPro to match the qrid better... there is a guide for this on the kor= g user forum

From: m= ark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100

Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators
<= div class=3D"im"> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

OK= I wasnt letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions wer= e quite specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET in = the manual...

I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (the pro i= s important) users here.

=A0Fabio_ wrote:<= br>
Can I play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within = a key and scale)???

Here I KNOW that it does "quantise" t= o a scale and key.... so the question was rather... is it just a theremin, = or can you play a melody

Fab said..
=A0but the fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And it is = good in that department, if you are looking to that kind of sounds, but hav= e to say that it's not allow you to really play melodies...
So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, neither really &= quot;random".

But thats the KP, not t= he Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer here...

How is it at following midi clock?
Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to= do.

It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the ques= tion...
When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent= on 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my K= org) and the Y to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synt= h allows this.. which I dont know.. have to find the manual.)
Again: better checking the manual(s) !=

It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you w= ant from the X and Y and Any of the knobs can also be mapped...

But what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST AUDI= O GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper,=A0 and if = so=A0 DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MIDI OUT= SOCKET, so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker for me, but= ... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not at all) it m= ight be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer...
=A0
KP sends inform= ation on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those info trough differe= nt midi channels or the same =A0?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...

Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad v= ersion (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I th= ink it can work like a synth too.

Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another synchable= effect... I have enough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Federation i= s on EBay RIGHT NOW

Heres the listing 260744777822

Mark


--
= Mark Francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no
twitter @markfrancombe
--0016363b8c503e844b049d5a13c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 16:23:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614AB18345A; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kQZRPFIVKGpXYdBbs12GLLrmim7YHzT1OLiPwLvdllI=; b=hWXEeeeMhJabA/Lcm7m/jHa3gVxv7Ox+U6Pod8Wm8qUioL4nQDQR6gjQzAHz6a1Puu UOvkeVSOWStZ5payzqBF6PS1bKksXa9nL55aaPG1bUEwqF6pPM6bYVIQ1j5mAhqi8mbi rVMOnF5XGhUpSoWRYXZ/WaBS/htxrRK5ghtjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=L6LGTlyABOlSseuTZSzhlzmogN9Mr6wONlQ4fivCoKrrnI41xVYU6MqUCoOj1c6cZ2 zfiZ+vOmt8QXzcC6uKXm5NXkdqcByQR6PKFgMB3yOPx+PJarunwlv2as+DC3jOv1HnYY IT+fzquzVdHMW4fn2F0QCkfGNnjGiKzgiO3lk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:23:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be7f25aed67049d5a1a6f Resent-Message-ID: <9onUR.A.jzG.Ow8aNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be7f25aed67049d5a1a6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those > info trough different midi channels or the same ? > Do you want to get control over different machines ? > > > Yes.. oh yes... > I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI channel). same istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel at time. Once you set it, all midi messages will be driven trough that channel. So if you're planning to control different devices, be aware that the Kaossilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel. I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that. -f www.eterogeneo.com --0015174be7f25aed67049d5a1a6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those= info trough different midi channels or the same =A0?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...
=A0
=A0
I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI channel). = same istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel at time= . Once you set it, all midi messages will be driven trough that channel.
So if you're planning to control different devices, be aware that = the Kaossilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel.
=A0
I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that.
=A0
-f
=A0
=A0
=A0
--0015174be7f25aed67049d5a1a6f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 16:36:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE34918345F; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_469bb64e-8c94-49a7-91f6-f9a5747707dc_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:36:50 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2011 16:36:51.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3BABEA0:01CBD765] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:36:52 +0000 (UTC) --_469bb64e-8c94-49a7-91f6-f9a5747707dc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yup one channel per time. annoyingly you also need to stop it sending meani= ngless bank changes to your external in normal mode as you change internal= sounds.=20 Date: Mon=2C 28 Feb 2011 17:23:41 +0100 Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators From: eterogenus@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =20 KP sends information on Y and X axis=2C but do you need to address those in= fo trough different midi channels or the same ? Do you want to get control over different machines ? Yes.. oh yes...=20 =20 =20 I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI channel). same = istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel at time. Onc= e you set it=2C all midi messages will be driven trough that channel. So if you're planning to control different devices=2C be aware that the Kao= ssilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel. =20 I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that. =20 -f www.eterogeneo.com =20 =20 = --_469bb64e-8c94-49a7-91f6-f9a5747707dc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yup one channel per time. annoyingly you also need to stop it sending meani= ngless bank changes to your external =3B in normal mode as you change i= nternal sounds.

Date: Mon=2C 28 Feb 2011 17= :23:41 +0100
Subject: Re: midi looping=2C synths=2C and kaossilators
= From: eterogenus@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
 =3B
KP sends information on Y and X axis=2C but do you need to address tho= se info trough different midi channels or the same  =3B?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...
 =3B
 =3B
I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI channel). = same istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel at time= . Once you set it=2C all midi messages will be driven trough that channel.<= /div>
So if you're planning to control different devices=2C be aware that th= e Kaossilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel.
 =3B
I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that.
 =3B
-f
 =3B
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= --_469bb64e-8c94-49a7-91f6-f9a5747707dc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 16:38:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF08183457; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5PBwlbOrxNrghc6GY06X5MayyA66dMG/0RTYuQcThXk=; b=UPOU2ebxzaycVWFIuXgVLhygvPA0TYZeMGAGmL8SNyAqvhzp9bUWiBmyozW70fLMdL 0svAWzbPlitd8qtQq2CtdS8boSelu2pntxUp0hMEI6TO/dMZGj7oLgnkU8VzK855iINI JCeb+wgniNv/ZHNDZujRn8YlPujgR1kLbrtb8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WD1BGrhE1EPWqRKs8L/UKpoTh+zFwBQSqcizbXwMGjYitLvdb4iOu41v0yhcJsHw1V TwKuA/SSY7YKkEThDup6xvf00s7N+xtxNODRVJF7a5SwXOBRaNEt7wQmd5MVV/zPG7qv 5auyB7IZT5Yzp9b02Pt41TNNokQ2B7wP9AvhM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:38:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hsugTL0uGaSUh7PGtPr5SY_kAhA Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b8c50e99dab049d5a4f14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b8c50e99dab049d5a4f14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ahh thats ok... I was more interested in if the phrase you generate and loop, is an audio loop, or a midi loop. And if it were a midi loop can you use it to control other devices? Philip has confirmed, no.. its an audio looper. But thats OK, it would have been outstanding if it COULD loop midi, but buggers cant be boozy... Im not sure how I would use the XY control. Thats NOT to say I dont like the use of an XY, but as with MOST midi stuff, the issue is turning ON and OFF functionality if and when you need it. Can you SAVE the midi setting to SEND a midi note or CC, on a per patch basis? I dont think so. Nice thing about my Roland EF 303 is that what the mini sequncer is sending is save PER PATCH. so If can be used to distort on one patch, filter on another, control a synth on another patch, and cpntrol the pitch of my Repeater on another... only problem being that the fucking thing has a TOTAL of 16 patches... GREAT! On the other hand my Drum machine has a possible 10,000 patches... I used 5... By the way.. thats on Ebay too! *http://tinyurl.com/62r7tol Mark* On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > >> >> KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those >> info trough different midi channels or the same ? >> Do you want to get control over different machines ? >> >> >> Yes.. oh yes... >> > > > I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI channel). same > istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel at time. Once > you set it, all midi messages will be driven trough that channel. > So if you're planning to control different devices, be aware that the > Kaossilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel. > > I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that. > > -f > www.eterogeneo.com > > > > -- *Mark Francombe* www.markfrancombe.com www.ordoabkhao.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://www.looop.no twitter @markfrancombe --0016363b8c50e99dab049d5a4f14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahh thats ok... I was more interested in if the phrase you generate and loo= p, is an audio loop, or a midi loop. And if it were a midi loop can you use= it to control other devices? Philip has confirmed, no.. its an audio loope= r. But thats OK, it would have been outstanding if it COULD loop midi, but = buggers cant be boozy...

Im not sure how I would use the XY control. Thats NOT to say I dont lik= e the use of an XY, but as with MOST midi stuff, the issue is turning ON an= d OFF functionality if and when you need it. Can you SAVE the midi setting = to SEND a midi note or CC, on a per patch basis? I dont think so.

Nice thing about my Roland EF 303 is that what the mini sequncer is sen= ding is save PER PATCH. so If can be used to distort on one patch, filter o= n another, control a synth on another patch, and cpntrol the pitch of my Re= peater on another... only problem being that the fucking thing has a TOTAL = of 16 patches... GREAT! On the other hand my Drum machine has a possible 10= ,000 patches... I used 5...

By the way.. thats on Ebay too!

http://tinyurl.com/62r7tol


Mark


On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Fabio_A <eterogenus@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0
KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those= info trough different midi channels or the same =A0?
Do you want to get control over different machines ?

Yes.. oh yes...
=A0
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I was looking at the manual (see page 21 - Setting the MIDI chan= nel). same istructions as the KPII....so it just work on one MIDI channel a= t time. Once you set it, all midi messages will be driven trough that chann= el.
So if you're planning to control different devices, be aware that = the Kaossilator Pro sends out its midi message just on one channel.
=A0
I'm pretty sure Phillip can confirm that.
=A0
-f
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--0016363b8c50e99dab049d5a4f14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 17:35:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9E5218345F; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 229543.83818.bm@omp1039.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298912576; bh=T0Ux08tiyicDo+K2s+bmpH3TbknbIGkNARffEOfyGso=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VpXZ0DkSvgIsrdwCJ74L4twL1UTYkezn58SEZKFf9nMzyeslJIq3yQVumX5k3HzeSHZrjDMekUOAdZVsKDKpbQcn5MXsmfqbzBNpjMP/7rvYTbXKXjPbd/NDNeX/14/AnKa/y4+EtqxwawLvegiXL8mdENjy6K6C6uOWJ/s5y/0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P1MNiD0V1OpqTfNVe8x/vVaCexvGdVIaeULtv1ceu6X4pFO9PbBFJ3vCmMV65CTBJj/Xw4MQ29KEh1cEE3BZGr3eObjlDmO9Hf0CdiARl5OhlOq4qIIGDO2xukrKsZHr3dwS8XZ+9PsRRmM7ZV7N4QW4IWABpBjNu7EVPig2jlc=; Message-ID: <2473.54358.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5QaK5O0VM1ltQENfJazNMZ6.6RKfIwm2NbzYn20U_gwe_Sv HcyHomxe.XMsBacA9DZA2zAdLvXUZo.R9Iqjev7V5u..rg2Rc6v5BWTy9ods NSxSBL944bz9_ywUsOgHA063icFM.MxKM7CiRtGgtsiUREBkFuuDuLZLXQp9 AnT8xxhNEKqy2VlHU4_JYAkC10wISnvOWqHQE8oXRONeYZhwdsQ8ncl6KR.v KJnaveYNuli0IkdjNkh_9vNie82P9RG0Gt.O0TLw2vMXHXGeI8UENvxNQiHH 987nQnPJXweOBjGgqytxuvF7jKQOcDznXzcMG_b6TMHkXrf4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-382871923-1298912575=:54358" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:35:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-382871923-1298912575=:54358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the echoplex emulator on Kyma has a MIDI looper, that's pretty useless I kn= ow =0Asince you would have to bu a Kyma. What's mor hte software has not be= en upgraded =0Afor the new kyma hardware:-)=0AYet the developper still exis= ts, can ask Carla Scaletti where to find him...=0A=0AAntony=0A=0A=0A=0A____= ____________________________=0AFrom: mark francombe =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Mon, February 28, 2011 = 5:21:22 PM=0ASubject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators=0A=0AVERY = Useful Phillip! Thanks ALOT!! =0AIts looking VERY interesting to me actuall= y... shame about no MIDI LOOPING... =0ASo.. That feature is still on the dr= awing board... anyone out there wants to =0Ajoin forces and manufacture a m= idi looper?=0A=0AWe=B4ve discussed this many times...There are many drawbac= ks in midi looping, =0Amostly that there is a huge likelyhood of stuck note= s. but still weird no one =0Ahas attempted it! =0A=0A=0AMark=0A=0A=0A=0AOn = Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, phillip wilson wrot= e:=0A=0AOk, I'll come off the bench on this one.=0A>=0A>I own and use the K= o Pro heavily in my practice.=0A>=0A>I run it synced to my EDP setup.=0A>= =0A>here are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions ( i haven= t had =0A>time to read the full thread)=0A>=0A>in my opinion you CAN play a= melody. the nuance is not "too" dissimilate to a =0A>fretless guitar or vi= olin in that while there are no markers (annoyingly the =0A>lights are curr= antly just for show the grid means nothing(ish) *)=0A>I mainly use the pent= atonic major and minor scales and I tend to limit my octave =0A>range to 2 = max as this leaves me with a useable amount of notes to play with =0A>and = enough room between note transitions to make my gestures meaningful.=0A>als= o it is worth mentioning a trick I sure which I call "finger anchoring" i= f =0A>you touch and hold one point on the pad, the halve between that and = any other =0A>point ... its hard to explain but for instance if hold your = finger down at the =0A>halfway point you would have double the room to pu= t your next finger down and =0A>releasing the first finger would send the = note back to its original resolution =0A>there for twice as high again so = lets say if the scale fit you could hold your =0A>finger down on "root" yo= u would then have twice as much wiggle room to =0A>anticipate where a "3rd"= would be , then by leagin that 2nd finger where it is =0A>but lifting 1st= finger you would hear the sound jump to "5th" (if the scale =0A>fit).=0A>= =0A>another more visual example of what I mean...most mouse touchpads work = the same =0A>way...try it.=0A>=0A>=0A>re midi clock / sync=0A>=0A>=0A>it se= ems pretty capable of following reasonable clock speeds...it bpm drops too = =0A>low the amount of available bars halfs so watch out for that. =0A>=0A>= =0A>its also important to note, it syncs to clock but has no concept of ali= gnment or =0A>start points. if your timing is good and you bet the beat exc= act it will run and =0A>run in good alignment...if you get it an 8th off or= whatever it will be an 8th =0A>off forever (or until realigned.=0A>=0A>=0A= >i find i have no worries creating melodys in time to my echoplex and if = the =0A>beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY, no worries... but i was to try t= o layer a =0A>KoPro drum routine to ...for instance my Alignment aware Ele= ctribe... my own =0A>personal results are a bit messy. same goes for if I s= top ALL loops. if i stop =0A>any of the other three loops while one is lef= t running it basically acts like =0A>mute/unmute... however if you turn all= l four off, then turning them back on is =0A>like a non aligned start song = message , if that makes sense. ...ie it relys on =0A>your own personal time= ing.=0A>=0A>=0A>Ext control is JUST that... no looping onboard while doing = this. and by default =0A>no horazontal axis just notes along the vertical..= . but there is a tool to mess =0A>with this on the pc i think. =0A>=0A>=0A>= =0A> to answer caps=0A>it is just an audio looper , complete with phasing e= tc... no midi is stored... =0A>no meaningful midinotes are transmissed in l= oop mode.. the two are separate.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>hope that helps=0A>=0A>Phil= l=0A>=0A>* you can realign your KoPro to match the qrid better... there is = a guide for =0A>this on the korg user forum =0A>=0A>=0A>___________________= _____________=0AFrom: mark@markfrancombe.com=0A>Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:2= 3:43 +0100=0A>=0A>Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators=0A>= =0A>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>=0A>=0A>OK I wasnt letting o= n that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions were =0A>quite specif= ic actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET in the =0A>manual= ...=0A>=0A>I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator PRO (th= e pro is =0A>important) users here.=0A>=0A>=0A> Fabio_ wrote:=0A>=0A>Can I = play it, and get what I imagine.. or is it basicaly random (within a key = =0A>and scale)??? =0A>=0A>>>=0A=0AHere I KNOW that it does "quantise" to a = scale and key.... so the question was =0Arather... is it just a theremin, o= r can you play a melody =0A=0A=0A=0AFab said.. =0A=0A but the fact is that = IT is like playing a theremin. And it is good in that =0Adepartment, if you= are looking to that kind of sounds, but have to say that it's =0Anot allow= you to really play melodies...=0A>So it's not a "proper instrument", IMO, = neither really "random".=0A=0ABut thats the KP, not the Kaoscillator... so = stilll need an answer here...=0A=0A>>How is it at following midi clock? =0A= >>=0A>Better checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.= =0A=0AIt SAYS it does... but.. how well? was the question...=0A=0AWhen used= as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on 2 axis? =0A>= >Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg) and the Y = to =0A>>filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth allows t= his.. which I =0A>>dont know.. have to find the manual.)=0A>>=0A>Again: bet= ter checking the manual(s) !=0A=0AIt seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you w= ant from the X and Y and Any of the knobs =0Acan also be mapped... =0A=0A= =0ABut what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUST A= UDIO =0AGRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper, and= if so DOES =0ATHAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT THE MID= I OUT SOCKET, so you =0Acan control another synth... not a deal-breaker for= me, but... as the internal =0Asounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not a= t all) it might be a bonus to drive =0Aanother synth from the sequencer...= =0A =0AKP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address tho= se info =0Atrough different midi channels or the same ?=0A>Do you want to = get control over different machines ?=0A=0AYes.. oh yes... =0A=0A=0AJust a = question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss Pad version (4, =0Amay= be) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think it can work like a = =0Asynth too.=0A>=0A>Nope I dont think so... I thing the KP4 is another syn= chable effect... I have =0A>enough of them already, in fact my Red Sound Fe= deration is on EBay RIGHT NOW=0A>=0A>Heres the listing 260744777822=0A>=0A>= Mark=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Mark Francombe=0A>www.markfrancombe.com=0A>www.o= rdoabkhao.com=0A>http://vimeo.com/user825094=0A>http://www.looop.no/=0A>twi= tter @markfrancombe=0A>=0A=0A=0A-- =0AMark Francombe=0Awww.markfrancombe.co= m=0Awww.ordoabkhao.com=0Ahttp://vimeo.com/user825094=0Ahttp://www.looop.no= =0Atwitter @markfrancombe=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-382871923-1298912575=:54358 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
the echoplex emulator on Kyma has a MIDI looper, that's pretty us= eless I know since you would have to bu a Kyma. What's mor hte software has= not been upgraded for the new kyma hardware:-)
Yet the developpe= r still exists, can ask Carla Scaletti where to find him...

<= /div>
Antony

From: mark francombe <= ;mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 5:21:22 PM
Subject: Re: midi looping, synths,= and kaossilators

=0AVERY Useful Phillip! Thanks ALOT!!
I= ts looking VERY interesting to me actually... shame about no MIDI LOOPING..= . So.. That feature is still on the drawing board... anyone out there wants= to join forces and manufacture a midi looper?
=0A=0A
We=B4ve discuss= ed this many times...There are many drawbacks in midi looping, mostly that = there is a huge likelyhood of stuck notes. but still weird no one has attem= pted it!

Mark


=0A=0AOn Mon, F= eb 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrot= e:
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A
=0A=0A=0A=0AOk, I'll come off the bench on this one.

I own a= nd use the Ko Pro heavily in my practice.

I run it synced to my EDP = setup.

here are my responses to what i percieve to be your questions= ( i havent had time to read the full thread)
=0A=0A
in my opinion yo= u CAN play a melody. the nuance is not "too" dissimilate to a fretless guit= ar or violin in that while there are no markers (annoyingly the lights are = currantly just for show the grid means nothing(ish) *)
=0A=0AI mainly us= e the pentatonic major and minor scales and I tend to limit my octave range= to 2 max as this leaves me with a useable amount of notes to play with&nbs= p; and enough room between note transitions to make my gestures meaningful.=
=0A=0Aalso it is worth mentioning a trick I sure which I call "finger a= nchoring"   if you  touch and hold one point on the pad, the halv= e between that and any other point ... its hard to explain but for instance= if  hold your finger down  at the halfway point  you would = have double the room to put your next finger down  and releasing the f= irst finger would send the note back to its original resolution there for t= wice as high again  so lets say if the scale fit you could hold your f= inger down on  "root" you would then have twice as much wiggle room to= anticipate where a "3rd" would be , then by  leagin that 2nd finger w= here it is but lifting 1st finger you would hear the sound jump to "5th" (i= f the scale fit).
=0A=0A
another more visual example of what I mean..= .most mouse touchpads work the same way...try it.


re midi clock = / sync


it seems pretty capable of following reasonable clock spe= eds...it bpm drops too low the amount of available bars halfs so watch out = for that. 
=0A=0A
its also important to note, it syncs to clock= but has no concept of alignment or start points. if your timing is good an= d you bet the beat excact it will run and run in good alignment...if you ge= t it an 8th off or whatever it will be an 8th off forever (or until realign= ed.
=0A=0A

i find i have no worries creating melodys  in tim= e to my echoplex  and if the beat i use is from the KoPro ONLY, no wor= ries... but i was to try to layer a KoPro drum routine to ...for instance m= y  Alignment aware Electribe... my own personal results are a bit mess= y. same goes for if I stop ALL loops.  if i stop any of the other thre= e loops while one is left running it basically acts like mute/unmute... how= ever if you turn alll four off, then turning them back on is like a non ali= gned start song message , if that makes sense. ...ie it relys on your own p= ersonal timeing.
=0A=0A

Ext control is JUST that... no looping on= board while doing this. and by default no horazontal axis just notes along = the vertical... but there is a tool to mess with this on the pc i think.

 to answer caps
=0A=0Ait is just an audio looper , comple= te with phasing etc... no midi is stored... no meaningful midinotes are tra= nsmissed in loop mode.. the two are separate.



hope that help= s

Phill

* you can realign your KoPro to match the qrid better= ... there is a guide for this on the korg user forum
=0A=0A
From= : mark@markfrancombe.comDate: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:23:43 +0100

Subject: Re: mi= di looping, synths, and kaossilators
=0A=0ATo: <= a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" t= arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com

OK I wasnt= letting on that I HAD infact checked the manual.. my questions were quite = specific actually, cos they related to things I didnt quite GET in the manu= al...
=0A=0A
I will expand, But Im feeling like we have no Kaocilator= PRO (the pro is important) users here.
=0A=0A
 Fabio_ wrote:
=0A=0A
Can I play it, and get what I imagine..= or is it basicaly random (within a key and scale)???
=0A=0A

Here I KNOW that it does "= quantise" to a scale and key.... so the question was rather... is it just a= theremin, or can you play a melody

Fab said..
=0A=0A=0A=0A
 but th= e fact is that IT is like playing a theremin. And it is good in that depart= ment, if you are looking to that kind of sounds, but have to say that it's = not allow you to really play melodies...
=0A=0A
So it's not a "pro= per instrument", IMO, neither really "random".

But thats the KP, not the Kaoscillator... so stilll need an answer her= e...
=0A=0A=0A=0A

Ho= w is it at following midi clock?
B= etter checking the manual here and see what it really allow to do.
=0A= =0A=0A=0A

It SAYS it does... but.. how well? was= the question...
=0A=0A
When used as a controller for another synth, is all information sent on= 2 axis?
Can I map X to pitch on an external synth (Im thinking my Korg= ) and the Y to filter cutoff on the external synth? (If my external synth a= llows this.. which I dont know.. have to find the manual.)
=0A=0A=0A=0A<= /font>
Again: better checking the manual(s) !<= /div>

It seems to send CC=B4s or whatever you wa= nt from the X and Y and Any of the knobs can also be mapped...

=0A= =0A=0ABut what I cant find out, is...(Warning caps alert) IS THE LOOPER JUS= T AUDIO GRABBING THE SYNTH OUTPUT.. or is it some kind of midi looper, = ; and if so  DOES THAT MIDI INFO.. (the sequence you generate) GO OUT = THE MIDI OUT SOCKET, so you can control another synth... not a deal-breaker= for me, but... as the internal sounds dont seem that tweakable (maybe not = at all) it might be a bonus to drive another synth from the sequencer...=0A=0A=0A=0A 
= KP sends information on Y and X axis, but do you need to address those info= trough different midi channels or the same  ?
=0A=0A
Do you = want to get control over different machines ?
=
Yes.. oh yes...

= =0A=0A
Just a question: why the Kaossilator and not the last Kaoss= Pad version (4, maybe) which seems to me a more "complete" tool ? I think = it can work like a synth too.
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-382871923-1298912575=:54358-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 18:51:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3106F183459; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DCFKazpN3N63sdOiOV4jBR9yZ+ooQ27bHgERTQZkF/4=; b=MBJOwQWqt7dzjeSNc3M4tr/mkSmUpaqE7GKp+Ejqlspno+KmjlCwLizbUVuHwnJ44i Rbf5Nxuclop5ZXK+KSO7XQF004yfNTdBLSeGJumpPIUCYX5qinXyCd2hYD95sEVurl5P FXPExY5a9biLKqIpFSsT/vrNzhxELzjhlcWN8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VF3jCZH8wNIW4f0Tjee8fvJ5ODOAu0GLjmuO73CXsZeF1o0SzP/YCSTg2/EAywpIzk WkwaHKt/AOISeWtkAXyli5EYidS6QHRGEyl29VP3l1dUgu85X9I3e/c+UIaADVr5vCD5 BogNfWxl5zeE91gXfVrUL8l71loiF4L9ccFTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2473.54358.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <2473.54358.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:51:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <6KxES.A.IxC.36-aNB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:51:35 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:02 PM, wrote: > MIDI LOOPING Why not do that with a bunch of arpeggiators? Thinking about Alchemy's arp that even has a mode in which it works almost as a recorder. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 18:52:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA50183447; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6BEF00.4060900@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:52:48 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: SONIC HAIKU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Todd Mathews asked me to send him the little melodica improv I made with a terrible mic and he sent me back this short beautiful piece of music and video that he made. On 2/27/11 3:52 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: I took my bass and a zoom recorder to a long cement tunnel today and here's a lil' 30 sec snippet: http://flic.kr/p/9mzTAh I just thought it was a very hip audio/visual haiku and I asked him if it would be okay to share it with the list along with a request to see if other people on the list would be into making some very, very short form audio/visual pieces in the spirit of a Sonic Haiku................let's say 30 seconds, max He wrote this back: "Sounds great!! I'm in. You can post the link to it to kick off the Sonic Haiku thread. This could end up being a really cool thread. Like the Twitter of LD :)" I like it...............the Twitter of LD!!!! rick walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 19:13:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD019183459; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=5ISDpAiazPdFWuNJuPigVhe5KyHvNH+ZA9QUxFT5SJY=; b=d7bZR4VjTKSetghKZxg8nDTtUOCpwQbGCiN+UIw5Oz66tBfCbl9GJHv7teTQ50RNEG 7zW5ixccubCLrZGdgjUhEnfTAHePNc4jZ7liOwE/0LZaIxX/BRuQ93N6SJsBNCT8ecAJ CbWb6oTShyqd9pxl9PmKxqONdr5R5PtP8CCAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Pq+8txX8pidRQ7fStTd5g8/ZhXI0TJQ60eEFBWwXFisq4ZB81YIpQCmSws6zTHifv4 mJVk8/wpG7blbilJ8vBCwju0H5Cl3royTtv1DjA8HXq26p/IGaoFwiLyzkVZACCFoeCB Hicjcv0K8RjH89yV4fzkNMgGY4QR3T1H3mJWc= References: <2473.54358.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:13:07 +0100 Message-ID: <8087914613673234743@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:13:56 +0000 (UTC) In software, there Are some options, and the big arp thread from a few months ago threw me some stuff, I'm testing out Kontakt 4 within mulch and bidule, but the fiddlyness of complex setups on software bores me, (and throws up many issues, one of which is CPU) K4 has a basic, but cool arp. But... It's heavy shit, and I'm sure as hell not basing a live set on it. Without fail, my software setups, NEVER work without some restarting, some visiting the midi set-up app, some checking with midi monitor, and some settings checking!!! The software solution has to be KISS. My hardware rack however is another story, and is currently in it's Nth iteration, Based on 4 hardware loopers, a synth, and various mangling weapons...Tis a thing if joy! And now I'm working out, I'll soon be able to lift it into the car!!! Mark Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 28 Feb 2011, at 19:51, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:02 PM, wrote: >> MIDI LOOPING > > Why not do that with a bunch of arpeggiators? Thinking about Alchemy's > arp that even has a mode in which it works almost as a recorder. > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 19:33:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4A0A183459; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gKaIYtWHEAKmM/w9ud9ZnzibSJ4qA0hXjKNHNlBsX7lFLsl+uhrJFquNyQ/ASXXI; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8B7F7C22-BB50-4F55-9745-A9D84C0325C5@gmail.com> References: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> <8B7F7C22-BB50-4F55-9745-A9D84C0325C5@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:29:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Recording an Album Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-913200893==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7909580b68531e834984e02881a0e81ead350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:33:31 +0000 (UTC) --============_-913200893==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. ! >A wade Chandler tg-2 > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker ><billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > >> >>My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to >>buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. >> >>And that pre would be...? >>Bill -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-913200893==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Recording an Album
Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. !

A wade Chandler tg-2

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop)  was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself.  

And that pre would be...?
Bill


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--============_-913200893==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 19:35:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33F5E18344B; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=7PXfnHEAOKcdztKcwWPmGFrch4Y23urA7qXEdyaO7XE=; b=aGqV3eFaceJqpuza5lYhS6BsTnuTv9fgIyLdVyFrtH6lt61mYeVNFoWMllgAOBqjbk 8xok47TIXDfEdxwPWjCe6GGQPEqIQ1KlJMXYWXHSHaKrcgMfLvr8Zu6unra545FBEwls LXRTU4fvCokJKMUC4kKyTvZK27lIlHA/9O/p0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=jLF1OzhpnVnS4Ek/pWAM68mBLFs36Uj4K766PC3dhIL1tr/shbX+tj1uhS2xmJCTzl DNTLh1qtX6ZEPRsgGpzl2cy/AyaGD+B5/esos3aCThk16h9f+Y8oC9+OrFmQkbMoJh8C 1Cl9BUlnfJ2DrO95e76e5nTg56yuUuh8CTxLU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> <8B7F7C22-BB50-4F55-9745-A9D84C0325C5@gmail.com> From: todd reynolds Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:35:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Recording an Album To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a3d9c7a6ca049d5cc758 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:35:45 +0000 (UTC) --20cf3054a3d9c7a6ca049d5cc758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles! thanks for the correction! i've been saying it wrong all this time... My apologies to the group AND to Wade Goeke! I do love his work though. t. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. ! > > A wade Chandler tg-2 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker > wrote: > > > My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two > mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. > > > And that pre would be...? > > *Bill* > > > > -- > > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > > http://albumcredits.com/zmix > --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there. =95 also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://facebook.com/toddreynolds http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds --20cf3054a3d9c7a6ca049d5cc758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charles! =A0thanks for the correction! =A0i've been saying it wrong all= this time... My apologies to the group AND to Wade Goeke!=A0

I do love his work though. =A0

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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Ch= arles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. !

A wade Chandler tg-2

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) =A0was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. =A0

And that pre would be...?
Bill 


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--20cf3054a3d9c7a6ca049d5cc758-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 19:42:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EE3C183464; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D6BF7E9.7020603@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:30:49 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , beyond_em Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #725 for February 24, 2011. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:42:49 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/110224.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #725 February 24, 2011. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Nattefrost. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Live in Germany 2008 & 2009" on Groove Unlimited. Nattefrost: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Steve Roach and Opening Sky The Desert Inbetween (Projekt) Brian Parnham Ron Boots and Combat des Coqs Refuge en Verre (Groove) Synth.nl Steve Roach Circadian Rhythms Immersion Five - Circadian Phase 1 Rhythms (Projekt) Dave Luxton Worlds Unknown Dark Moon (Wayfarer) Nattefrost Valhal (Part 1 & 2) Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Nattefrost Searching for a Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 Distant Planet (Groove) Nattefrost Kopenhaachen (with Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 Phil Molto) (Groove) Nattefrost Perfectly Connected Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (with Phil Molto) (Groove) Nattefrost Intro Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost Decadence Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost The Swan Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost The Pleasure of Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 Tranquility (Groove) Nattefrost Descending from the Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 Stars (Groove) Nattefrost Draconian Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost Winterland Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost Nightfall Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost Kopenhaachen Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) Nattefrost A New Direction Live in Germany 2008 & 2009 (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Richard Lainhart. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Five Nocturnes" on O-Town Music. Lainhart: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2011/focus.html#mar Bill ======================================================================== Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info Listen to WDIY on-line. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 19:43:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4DA8183464; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=eiDyjk1/t/wTbFe2iH8mljV9cinm1VvBt7mZPUNr0dy9ywDLkHCqjL2/SeLWsXer; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <44DD4BA2-61FF-49C9-BB7C-0BC5311CB252@baymoon.com> <8B7F7C22-BB50-4F55-9745-A9D84C0325C5@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:43:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Recording an Album Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-913200272==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d24a0e0b2946ae9903ac39623527224d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:43:45 +0000 (UTC) --============_-913200272==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Wade is a good guy.. though he started with the less than honorable method of photocopying Neve PC boards to make clones, but has since worked out some original designs... I use a pair of his LTD-2 compressors every day, usually on guitars.. which are sometimes... looped.. whew! Got us back on topic!!! >Charles! thanks for the correction! i've been saying it wrong all >this time... My apologies to the group AND to Wade Goeke! > >I do love his work though. > >t. > > > >On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. ! > >>A wade Chandler tg-2 >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> > >On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker ><billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > >> >>My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy >>two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself. >> > >And that pre would be...? > >Bill > > > >-- > >... >http://www.zmix.net > >http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky > >http://albumcredits.com/zmix > > > > >-- >==================================== >* Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and >is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party >is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted >to have you there. > >* also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with >Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still >available for the newly added show. > > >======================== >http://toddreynolds.com >http://twitter.com/digifiddler >http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic >http://blog.toddreynolds.com >http://facebook.com/toddreynolds >http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds -- ... http://www.zmix.net http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky http://albumcredits.com/zmix --============_-913200272==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Recording an Album
Wade is a good guy..  though he started with the less than honorable method of  photocopying Neve PC boards to make clones, but has since worked out some original designs... I use a pair of his LTD-2 compressors every day, usually on guitars.. which  are sometimes... looped.. whew! Got us back on topic!!!

Charles! thanks for the correction! i've been saying it wrong all this time... My apologies to the group AND to Wade Goeke!

I do love his work though.

t.



On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Goeke, Wade Goeke. The company he runs is called Chandler.. !

A wade Chandler tg-2

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 25, 2011, at 6:02 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

My choice for Outerborough (which is just about to drop) was to buy two mics and a phenomenal preamp and do it myself.

And that pre would be...?
Bill


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...
http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix



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* Outerborough, my debut double CD set soon available on iTunes, and is released on INNOVA Recordings on March 24th. The CD Release party is scheduled for March 16th at ISSUE Project Room. I'd be delighted to have you there.

* also, don't forget the double bill at Le Poisson Rouge with Cellist Zoe Keating on March 6th! first show sold out, tix still available for the newly added show.


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http://toddreynolds.com
http://twitter.com/digifiddler
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic
http://blog.toddreynolds.com
http://facebook.com/toddreynolds
http://reverbnation.com/toddreynolds


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http://www.zmix.net

http://www.esession.com/ChuckZwicky

http://albumcredits.com/zmix
--============_-913200272==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 20:53:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0B4F1833E9; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=tHfla+YFA1zK1MGLd7UVE0EE7a34n9HvkrsowzH//aA=; b=xs/SeksvlH4ArkhuoXahsk5YGsrKKz0bzGj3dDHy7OZc2oOGlAuIltequmalRuKIoh z5f1RW5r9Ltmvt4Ue9oswhsTGZ3J4uMAmn6EqRnBDLx5xc066bPPUdoVxygtr+3PyU74 NzFiKDgNy+5ByXFqBWP8nY3BSYSgcyjnx4GeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Z6HXrs8gpJfLZqs51s6zr8NisZQuMGn79zT63xiqccTkP6GENGVP1WyKpyNMAAEXbW HeZJ1L+UZt4tTYNH3hwzFNSZj/f1b88/Ht4jwG9t/MKcl+KvuFcVVupjL7WQK4To1si+ sw9qgzW+8LaT1Lm32EzvHfKtYzA0ZxXQBVny0= References: From: mark francombe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:52:23 +0100 Message-ID: <-6417011445927401828@unknownmsgid> Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:53:14 +0000 (UTC) But here's a question (or experiment) for you Philip... So you say it's an audio looper, that syncs pretty good from midi clock??? So... What happens if you slow down the clock? Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Feb 28 21:01:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88166183461; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780319.19033.bm@omp1007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1298926885; bh=wr5B3uRoNjcR/7IEs2Hjq0u03muqlYKxUEoDfBjABLE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q2/5OKYB1M+C2H03uUQU/pAv7VIz0ZRG9PivlHw0eGqiCwpuXdHjatrwEZ/EsBtOPqJZ59hNRGFw2FBqy6x+JOhHc+6OUeIRyI502RWEfhe1pHX1GNMI0xNrtL3GGTlGjfifDofiAnIeKno2dMztVbNNADhBK4ZdJlZ2cDK1hN0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qg7A+0qVoedBb4e6RJazDS82aAvd88KcphFEJMwIGgsgtY0m5Q0v4jlPu5zAovkQdsN2i4+N8TYlwirCtqjNSoLytFn63foAJXMVqRLgYlXWM8sbPecsnjH9YJXT8+VUse0iMGOfURhLZ6hJ84UBrI8B4m14kxQmlZdeU1KR+sU=; Message-ID: <669294.12889.qm@web120712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rfp73noVM1kGRq.TPUu2hraazJCW1YbGcxm98Nwf7ItdkTS 4YurBChpjChWdf1gYJxy1A2U0s4z9cwVpES4N6L14kkh5ws_WqdPu83Pv22f KfYeIGqBTMyCXqrQKy32QXmzPunx19Naie9Z4wKMNAC7KxBAc5BcFAerPh1R 3Oc7keBuDbZmAyoyLYcEIdP5BeBYNdLq_NJaKo_9B.7w.PaoUZr030KxqL6m fCnOZ.NxQP2SVPqoHvmFw98Yubhn4LGJAfUVIaWADqv4PbMQ2LQt033UKv6l 7C.OInPryFHUk.tSLQYrhs9GbKhCL.3XOfUwD2czdmn4VSNY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 References: <38412C81-8C1A-4500-A460-04F43BF8F322@gmail.com> <133454.40651.qm@web120716.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <-92009704712698658@unknownmsgid> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:01:25 -0800 (PST) From: antonyhequet@yahoo.com Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <-92009704712698658@unknownmsgid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-61184662-1298926885=:12889" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/107702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:01:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-61184662-1298926885=:12889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I find the gate function very useful and playable.. When I want something rythmical, like a pattern that you modulate live, i go for t he Kaaos pas. Have not used the MIDI part yet. Must set it up tomorrow. ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 9:09:17 AM Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators I thought I said the sounds were nit very tweakable... Maybe not at all, yes ... Please let me know how it integrates with your gear... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 27 Feb 2011, at 22:46, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote: Can you really edit up the sounds. Where did you see that? > --0-61184662-1298926885=:12889 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I find the gate function very useful and playable.. When I want something rythmical, like a pattern that you modulate live, i go for t he Kaaos pas. Have not used the MIDI part yet. Must set it up tomorrow.

From: mark francombe <markfrancombe@gmail.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 9:09:17 AM
Subject: Re: midi looping, synths, and kaossilators

I thought I said the sounds were nit very tweakable... Maybe not at all, yes ... Please let me know how it integrates  with your gear...

Sent from my (advertisement removed)

On 27 Feb 2011, at 22:46, antonyhequet@yahoo.com wrote:

 Can you really edit up the sounds. Where did you see that?


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On Fri= , Feb 18, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote= :
Hey Jeff as I pos= ted it's cool 'to see from whence you have come'.=A0 Very tight= and edgy group.=A0 Drums sound great, all three of you sound very 'in = tune' in what you're doing.=A0 Lot of years since '91 and know = a lot of life.=A0 Good stuff, the music remains...

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeff Duke = <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually had a digitech 7.6 sec delay in my rack back then but didn't= loop onstage with it much yet.
Here is some bootleg footage of our ban= d in '91 at Spring Break in Atlanta.

Randy Duke: Bass
Mike G= eeslin: Drums
Me: Guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYqLpDmHuGs

Jeff




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