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I enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and can ap=
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without too much looking back. For me personally=2C I find my literary ende=
avors have a much greater degree of self censorship and/or editing. I will =
return to pieces written 25 years ago=2C thinking then they were perfect=2C=
 and edit the hell out of them and THEN think they are perfect. Maybe I'll =
be re-visiting them again at 70 for another go around.
J.D.

> Date: Sat=2C 31 Jul 2010 07:50:48 -0700
> From: looppool@cruzio.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno
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> Derek Sivers who used to own CD Baby put up a wonderful
> site of quotations about music and art.
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> http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1
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> Amongst many others=2C  I love this quote from Brian Eno.
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> "Artists who don't censor their own work: Picasso=2C Miles Davis=2C Princ=
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> That's a kind of humility=2C actually: it's a mixture of arrogance=2C whi=
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I enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and can ap=
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be re-visiting them again at 70 for another go around.<br>J.D.<br><br>&gt=
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For me and most of the artists/producers/engineers I know, records are =
never finished, they're abandoned.=20

I think, for me, the beauty of what Eno is saying was well expressed by =
that country guy who said 'You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to =
fold 'em.'

There is always self censoring to some degree or you're not a good =
musician.  Miles obviously was 'self censored' enough that he learned to =
play the trumpet like none before him.  Same, obviously for Prince and =
Picasso.

So I would guess Eno is thinking relatively, not absolutely. =20
..........

It is fun to go back to old work and figuring out what you were trying =
to say and finally nailing it. =20

The fine line between self censoring and becoming better is all about =
knowing when to let it go.  For me, the final call is when it REALLY =
stops being fun. =20

That's when I fold 'em... and either release it or let it incubate till =
another day... or decade... =20

Inspiring post, Rick!  Thanks

R

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On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:

> I enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and =
can appreciate what he's saying. I found it to be more about a humble =
confidence in one's work/abilities insofar as one can =
play/compose/record and be done without too much looking back. For me =
personally, I find my literary endeavors have a much greater degree of =
self censorship and/or editing. I will return to pieces written 25 years =
ago, thinking then they were perfect, and edit the hell out of them and =
THEN think they are perfect. Maybe I'll be re-visiting them again at 70 =
for another go around.
> J.D.
>=20
> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:50:48 -0700
> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno
> >=20
> > Derek Sivers who used to own CD Baby put up a wonderful
> > site of quotations about music and art.
> >=20
> > http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1
> >=20
> > Amongst many others, I love this quote from Brian Eno.
> > It encapsulates so much of why I love looped music and music that
> > contains repetition.
> >=20


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Eno is saying was well expressed by that country guy who said 'You gotta =
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him. &nbsp;Same, obviously for Prince and =
Picasso.</div><div><br></div><div>So I would guess Eno is thinking =
relatively, not absolutely. =
&nbsp;</div><div>..........</div><div><br></div><div>It is fun to go =
back to old work and figuring out what you were trying to say and =
finally nailing it. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The fine line =
between self censoring and becoming better is all about knowing when to =
let it go. &nbsp;For me, the final call is when it REALLY stops being =
fun. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>That's when I fold 'em... and =
either release it or let it incubate till another day... or decade... =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Inspiring post, Rick! =
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<br><div><div>On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:</div><br =
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class=3D"hmmessage" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I =
enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and can =
appreciate what he's saying. I found it to be more about a humble =
confidence in one's work/abilities insofar as one can =
play/compose/record and be done without too much looking back. For me =
personally, I find my literary endeavors have a much greater degree of =
self censorship and/or editing. I will return to pieces written 25 years =
ago, thinking then they were perfect, and edit the hell out of them and =
THEN think they are perfect. Maybe I'll be re-visiting them again at 70 =
for another go around.<br>J.D.<br><br>&gt; Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 =
07:50:48 -0700<br>&gt; From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a><br>&gt; =
To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>&gt; Subject: Great Quote about Looping by Brian =
Eno<br>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; =
Derek Sivers who used to own CD Baby put up a wonderful<br>&gt; site of =
quotations about music and art.<br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1">http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1</a>=
<br>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>&gt; =
Amongst many others, I love this quote from Brian Eno.<br>&gt; It =
encapsulates so much of why I love looped music and music that<br>&gt; =
contains repetition.<br>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br></div></span></blockquote=
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Just wondering if, by chance, anybody on the list is in Fort Meyers, Florida.

I have a possible line on a piece of small gear that I found on the Ft. Meyers craigslist and if the seller isn't interested in shipping, I'm wondering if somebody would pick it up for me and ship it...

You will be compensation for time spent...


ted h.

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Michael Billow wrote:
> Contrary to the popular notion, Eno is not God. All artists edit and 
> "censor" their work, including those he mentioned. They might be a 
> little looser...


      In my own history as a professional musician,producer and 
teacher,  the overwhelming greatest detriment to good art that I've seen 
is the fact that the editing side of so many musicians seems to take a 
distant second to the creative side.

I see more artists who seem more motivated by fear than by the love of 
creativity.   I see more artists who struggle to put anything out to the 
world
for fear of the judgment that they perceive to be 'out there'.    In my 
history with most people,  the internal critic within these musicians' 
psyches
is a vastly more brutal judge than the society that surrounds them.

I know so many artists who would do the world a favor by moving away 
from perfectionism;   who would produce more art and better art
if they could balance their love of creativity with their fear of 
external judgment.

Sure, there are exceptions.     There are people who put out lots of 
fairly uninteresting music.   There are artists who are
grandiose and think every thing they do is wonderful.   But this 
grandiosity is just another form of the low self esteem that seems to
pervade culture.

I think this is what Eno addresses with this quotation.

Eno is not God, certainly,  but if you go see the list of artists who 
have come to him to help them become more creative it's a pretty fucking
impressive list.    There's a reason that Eno is revered:      He's 
very, very wise about the creative process.     Wise enough that he's 
worked with
U2, David Bowie, the Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Robert Fripp, David 
Lynch, Peter Jackson, Coldplay, Genesis, Nico, John Cale,
Grace Jones, Devo, UltraVox, James,  Jane Sieberry, Depeche Mode and 
many, many others.

These people are not idiots, obviously.

So I think there still might be something to this quote though it 
obviously pushes some buttons.

Rick Walker


>
>
>

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I think you misunderstood me Rick; Every artist engages in creative process.
That creative process involves self-editing. I am probably the last person
on this list who needs to be given a resume Eno and the people he's worked
with, as I am intimately familiar with his career and ideas. As impressive
as that is, my point remains; *Eno is not God. *Like ANYONE he can issue
statements that are self-indulgent, narcissistic or altogether inaccurate.
Whatever his 'intent' may have been, I simply didn't agree.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

>
> In my own history as a professional musician,producer and teacher,  the
> overwhelming greatest detriment to good art that I've seen is the fact that
> the editing side of so many musicians seems to take a distant second to the
> creative side.
>
> I see more artists who seem more motivated by fear than by the love of
> creativity.   I see more artists who struggle to put anything out to the
> world for fear of the judgment that they perceive to be 'out there'.    In
> my history with most people,  the internal critic within these musicians'
> psyches is a vastly more brutal judge than the society that surrounds them.
>
> I know so many artists who would do the world a favor by moving away from
> perfectionism;   who would produce more art and better art
> if they could balance their love of creativity with their fear of external
> judgment.
>
> Sure, there are exceptions.     There are people who put out lots of fairly
> uninteresting music.   There are artists who are
> grandiose and think every thing they do is wonderful.   But this
> grandiosity is just another form of the low self esteem that seems to
> pervade culture.
>
> I think this is what Eno addresses with this quotation.
>
> Eno is not God, certainly,  but if you go see the list of artists who have
> come to him to help them become more creative it's a pretty fucking
> impressive list.    There's a reason that Eno is revered:      He's very,
> very wise about the creative process.     Wise enough that he's worked with
> U2, David Bowie, the Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Robert Fripp, David
> Lynch, Peter Jackson, Coldplay, Genesis, Nico, John Cale,
> Grace Jones, Devo, UltraVox, James,  Jane Sieberry, Depeche Mode and many,
> many others.
>
> These people are not idiots, obviously.
>
> So I think there still might be something to this quote though it obviously
> pushes some buttons.
>
> Rick Walker
>
>
>
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>>
>

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Rick Walker wrote:
> I think this is what Eno addresses with this quotation.

Not sure anyone wanted to contradict the point he was making,
...just that his claims about those artists seemed a bit unrealistic.

> 
> I see more artists who seem more motivated by fear than by the love of 
> creativity.   I see more artists who struggle to put anything out to the 
> world
> for fear of the judgment that they perceive to be 'out there'.    

My take is that there's vastly more people who want to be *seen*
as creative artists than really care about the art itself.
I've always thought that any true creative motivation will
exist without acceptance being an issue. 
(and if, as it's said, it does take 10,000 hours to get good
  at something, then there has to be a lot of hard work with
  no recognition somewhere along the way)

Of course, I do know people who are more critical of their own
art than would seem reasonable based on audience response,
...but these guys *do* seem to be able to get their works out there
in some way. 


Here's a good reason for making music:
"I have this notion of a sound in my head and I want to 
  make it real just so I can listen to it myself."


> 
> Sure, there are exceptions.     There are people who put out lots of 
> fairly uninteresting music.   

Surely that's not the exception...we're drowning under uninspiration.

Another Eno observation (from the recent tv doc) was that these days
going to see music was a social event rather than an artistic one.

Put it this way, during the 80's I never thought I'd look back
and think that was a creative time...but after the 90's and 00's...

Seems to me that we're totally plagued by performers who fulfil
the social role of "creative artist" without any chance of them
actually coming up with the goods.

I'm not surprised that many genuine artists don't feel they want to
compete in the music scene.

As long as success is measured in stadium size...
 
> Eno is not God, certainly,  but if you go see the list of artists who 
> have come to him to help them become more creative it's a pretty fucking
> impressive list.    There's a reason that Eno is revered:      He's 
> very, very wise about the creative process.     Wise enough that he's 
> worked with
> U2, David Bowie, the Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, Robert Fripp, David 
> Lynch, Peter Jackson, Coldplay, Genesis, Nico, John Cale,
> Grace Jones, Devo, UltraVox, James,  Jane Sieberry, Depeche Mode and 
> many, many others.
> 
> These people are not idiots, obviously.

I respectfully advance the notion that some of the guys on that list
are bona-fide idiots. (or would be better off working in a bank)
;-)

No doubt though, Eno is a the catalyst extraordinaire.


> 
> Rick Walker
andy butler
> 
> 
>>
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> 
> 

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On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:26 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> No doubt though, Eno is a the catalyst extraordinaire.

Makes me think of another interesting statement by Eno; that "art
actually comes out of crap". What he means by this is that an
inspiring idea about a piece of art doesn't get really good until
thoroughly refined and until it has reached "presentation level" it
simply sounds like crap. But I don't think he ever said that any crap
can evolve into art.... ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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When I was in school, there was a theater group that espoused an =
anarchist philosophy and was very concerned with not trampling anyone's =
artistic vision. The result was that they would put on evenings of short =
one-act plays that a professor accurately described as "30 minutes of =
good ideas crammed into three hours". At some point, editing becomes =
critical. 90% of everything is crap. On the other hand, you may not know =
which 90% at the time, so other ears or eyes or just a distance in time =
are critical to making that analysis. The theater group needed a =
director who, for the sake of the audience, would say "these is good, =
let's go with it; this isn't working."

For me, playing live improvised music is a crapshoot. There are moments =
of beauty. There are also times when I want to apologize to the audience =
for wasting their time.

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Hello All,

Good point here but I would like to add something.
There is a critical difference between recorded & live performance. Most pe=
ople understand that when you go to a live performance, there is the possib=
ility of some major boo-boos &/or bad acting/playing/etc. In that respect, =
the original post applied well: you do what you do & then go from there. To=
tally improvised art, whether music or acting involves taking some big risk=
s & certainly a lot of time to learn to do what the performer is attempting=
 to do. Some never get very far, some never seem to stop learning ( which I=
 think is a good thing). In my composing of music, I always prefer to perfo=
rm a song live for a while to really explore it, then do a recording or fin=
ish the recording to get it on CD or now of course, the web. It gives the m=
usic a time to grow. I often have songs that still require finished lyrics,=
 so that when I get to the spot where some words are missing or need to be =
changed, I hope for that magical moment when inspiration will strike in the=
 heat of that moment. Doesn't happen very often but when it does I have to =
scramble my brain to make sure I remember what it was I just sang. Here's a=
 quote to consider:

The difference between great music & just plain noise is silence.

And BTW, I'm not the same Mark as the fellow below.
I'll be Mark2 to help differentiate us. Or perhaps Mark Twain. Not that Mar=
k2 in
any way implies lesser quality or that somehow Mark1 is better or more exal=
ted that I, but simply a way to avoid confusion, confusion which is of cour=
se Mark1's fault entirely for not anticipating this problem & changing his =
name to avoid all this silly verbiage.=20
=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno
> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 06:56:07 -0700
>=20
>=20
> When I was in school, there was a theater group that espoused an=20
> anarchist philosophy and was very concerned with not trampling=20
> anyone's artistic vision. The result was that they would put on=20
> evenings of short one-act plays that a professor accurately=20
> described as "30 minutes of good ideas crammed into three hours".=20
> At some point, editing becomes critical. 90% of everything is crap.=20
> On the other hand, you may not know which 90% at the time, so other=20
> ears or eyes or just a distance in time are critical to making that=20
> analysis. The theater group needed a director who, for the sake of=20
> the audience, would say "these is good, let's go with it; this=20
> isn't working."
>=20
> For me, playing live improvised music is a crapshoot. There are=20
> moments of beauty. There are also times when I want to apologize to=20
> the audience for wasting their time.
>=20
> Mark

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter



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hi boyz,
does anybody here have any experience with both of the units? im interested
how they compare with the quality of the effects specially the analog delay
emulations of the MPXG2 when using the espression pedal for regeneration
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i appreciated it!
cheers
Luis

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hi boyz,<br>does anybody here have any experience with both of the units? im interested how they compare with the quality of the effects specially the analog delay emulations of the MPXG2 when using the espression pedal for regeneration etc. vs the M9.<br>
i appreciated it!<br>cheers<br>Luis<br><br>

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richard sales wrote:
    "It is fun to go back to old work and figuring out what you were 
trying to say and finally nailing it.  
The fine line between self censoring and becoming better is all about 
knowing when to let it go.  For me, the final call is when it REALLY 
stops being fun.  
That's when I fold 'em... and either release it or let it incubate till 
another day... or decade..."

I really resonate with this sentiment.

I've actually come to see all artistic output as a work in progress.    
Usually do to time constraints, market contraints, personal constraints, 
personell constraints
or whatever,  we are forced to either release a record or, as Richard 
says,  fold 'em and move on.

Let me take a moment to illustrate this:

I had a very rare opportunity in my life back in the early 90's.   I had 
a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (including my 
brother, Bill) and we were doing all original instrumental fusions of 
many different kinds of world ethnic musics.    At the time, we didn't 
have enough money to go in and cut a decent record (and this was really 
before it was affordable to have a good home recording studio without 
spending the thousands of dollars it would take (that we didn't have 
anyway).

One, day, eating at the Catalyst prior to a weekend headliner we had 
planned there,  an angel came to me in the form of an older man named 
Bob Davis who was a big fan of the band.    He asked me if he could buy 
our album because he loved the music so much.  I told him that we 
didn't.  He said,  "why?"  and I told him that it was pretty expensive 
to make an album that was ambitious as the stuff we were doing.    
Anyway,  to make a much longer story shorter,  Bob just gave me the 
money to make the record.     I told him that I would get hold of our 
lawyer (we didn't have one <blush>) and we'd work out a way to pay him back.
He said, "no, you wont'".    And I said,  "why".     "Because this money 
is a gift, it is not an investment and I only want one thing from you in 
return,"  he replied.
"I want you to make the album that is in your heart.  I want you to make 
it as good as you can make it and I want it to be your vision, without 
worrying about
the marketplace."

I was flabbergasted and began the long and hard work of trying to get 
this record recorded the way it was in my head.   I didn't hold back
and finally, in the long run,  it cost about $12,000 (all of which Bob 
generously paid) and took about a year to make working as hard as we 
could to make it.

I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it 
and it came out beautifully.

When I look back at it now, however,   I realize that it is a wonderful 
snapshot of who I was (and who the entire band was) at that time (almost 
20 years later).
In the context of all of my own personal artistry,   it is a really nice 
'work in progress'.     I've grown immeasurably as an artist since that 
time and I can't wait to finish the records I'm working on now,   but my 
belief is that they will still be a work in progress, no matter how much 
time or perfectionism I put into them.
I guess because my head is full of ideas I want to manifest  it's become 
much less important to me to edit heavily or to be perfectionistic.
Just because of who we are,  we are going to try and get it 'right'.    
That, of course, precluded a certain amount  of self censorship.    Heck 
deciding what tunes
go on the album and what ones don't is a form of censorship and move in 
the direction of perfectionism.

I'm just saying that it is being out of balance between output and self 
censorship that is something to watch out for.

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Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the Berlin venues that
are listed here? (The second two are held at the first one, Madame
Claude's)


http://www.myspace.com/madame_claude
http://www.myspace.com/experimontag
http://www.myspace.com/campfiresession

I'm still looking for opportunities to perform while in Germany (UK is
looking slim, at this point) between 9 September and 18 September. Any
information is welcome.

Best


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So, what we are saying is that ... " Music isn=B4t finished till you stop
finishing it, then its finished"

I think that many of us are drawn to live looping and improvisation, exactl=
y
because, the looping makes the music.. not us.. the music is finished right
away!
Its also bit like what Eno has said about his way of working of setting up
the parameters and rules of a performance and then just sitting back and
watching it unfold.
I sometimes "work" very hard while playing... jumping on pedals, and
tweaking knobs the whole time, oh and playing a few guitar notes in between=
,
but mostly I prefer to take it easy and see what the loop does, let the
thing degrade a little on its own.

Its like playing with another musician, listening to them and then making
ones own choices as to how to interject and converse with the music. I feel
a little like Eno was supposed to have done during the recording of Low
(can=B4t say if this is myth or not tho) where him and Bowie held up cards =
for
the musicians E.FLAT. FASTER. DARKER, G_MAJOR...
Improvisation is not just about making things up as you go along, its about
accepting the resulting beauty or cacophony as the music.. Cage was also
interested in this.

Who hasnt tried this?

Exercise #1 "The Glorious Loopfucker"

1. Build up and nice big loop in a key of your choosing, let it wash over
you, wallow in its glory, savor its majesty.
2. Randomly slide you fingers up and down your neck (not sure if this can
work with non fretted instruments..), fast and slow, while NOT LOOKING..
choose a fine feeling fret to begin your loop fuckage..
3. Powerfully and strongly, on the top of the bar, come crashing in on
this... unknown, frightening and unpredictable key.
4. Cringe at its out of tune-ness, but play on, let its unconventional
modulation be your friend... be strong.. and wait it out
5. Marvel, that within moments the new resulting discord begins to work,
indeed becomes the piece.
6. Remember with horror the earlier section of the music, that was so pass=
=E9
, so infantile, so.. so... so...
7. shed a tear for those lost naive days.
8. Hit undo... wait till it comes back, smile, welcome the return of
normality and order.. fade, leaving a chord ringing in reverb.
9. Look around to see if anyone saw, notice that you forgot to press
record...
10. Stroke your feline audience.

Mark

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So, what we are saying is that ... &quot; Music isn=B4t finished till you s=
top finishing it, then its finished&quot;<br><br>I think that many of us ar=
e drawn to live looping and improvisation, exactly because, the looping mak=
es the music.. not us.. the music is finished right away!<br>

Its also bit like what Eno has said about his way of working of setting up =
the parameters and rules of a performance and then just sitting back and wa=
tching it unfold.<br>I sometimes &quot;work&quot; very hard while playing..=
. jumping on pedals, and tweaking knobs the whole time, oh and playing a fe=
w guitar notes in between, but mostly I prefer to take it easy and see what=
 the loop does, let the thing degrade a little on its own. <br>

<br>Its like playing with another musician, listening to them and then maki=
ng ones own choices as to how to interject and converse with the music. I f=
eel a little like Eno was supposed to have done during the recording of Low=
 (can=B4t say if this is myth or not tho) where him and Bowie held up cards=
 for the musicians E.FLAT. FASTER. DARKER, G_MAJOR...<br>

Improvisation is not just about making things up as you go along, its about=
 accepting the resulting beauty or cacophony as the music.. Cage was also i=
nterested in this.<br><br>Who hasnt tried this?<br><br>Exercise #1 &quot;Th=
e Glorious Loopfucker&quot;<br>

<br>1. Build up and nice big loop in a key of your choosing, let it wash ov=
er you, wallow in its glory, savor its majesty. <br>2. Randomly slide you f=
ingers up and down your neck (not sure if this can work with non fretted in=
struments..), fast and slow, while NOT LOOKING.. choose a fine feeling fret=
 to begin your loop fuckage..<br>

3. Powerfully and strongly, on the top of the bar, come crashing in on this=
... unknown, frightening and unpredictable key.<br>4. Cringe at its out of =
tune-ness, but play on, let its unconventional modulation be your friend...=
 be strong.. and wait it out<br>

5. Marvel, that within moments the new resulting discord begins to work, in=
deed becomes the piece.<br>6. Remember with horror the earlier section of t=
he music, that was so pass=E9 , so infantile, so.. so... so... <br>7. shed =
a tear for those lost naive days.<br>

8. Hit undo... wait till it comes back, smile, welcome the return of normal=
ity and order.. fade, leaving a chord ringing in reverb.<br>9. Look around =
to see if anyone saw, notice that you forgot to press record...<br>10. Stro=
ke your feline audience.<br>

<br>Mark<br>

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Hi there.

I thought I'd put out call to any fellow loopers in the wider SF Bay  
Area who might not mind lending me a sofa for a night as I'll be  
driving down from Oregon for Kim's memorial service on Saturday,  
August, 14th in Berkeley. It's save me the cost of a hotel room (or a  
ticket for sleeping in my car) and possibly give further opportunity  
to visit. Please email me off-list.

Thanks!

Ted

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Richard very well put and that's pretty much how should be too me.

For several years except one I've released records on same feel and
'finaless' of a gesture drawing and they've not been perfect but
spontaneous.  One recent cd I overworked though and was reaching that
pointof 'no longer fun'.  I fianlly let it go and though it turned out
well I know that I labored too long with it.

I spend a lot of time these days over at ImprovFriday and the core of
our weekend new music thread events is most often first takes and
wonderfully spontaneous.

Agreed good topic.

Jim

On 7/31/10, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> For me and most of the artists/producers/engineers I know, records are ne=
ver
> finished, they're abandoned.
>
> I think, for me, the beauty of what Eno is saying was well expressed by t=
hat
> country guy who said 'You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold
> 'em.'
>
> There is always self censoring to some degree or you're not a good musici=
an.
>  Miles obviously was 'self censored' enough that he learned to play the
> trumpet like none before him.  Same, obviously for Prince and Picasso.
>
> So I would guess Eno is thinking relatively, not absolutely.
> ..........
>
> It is fun to go back to old work and figuring out what you were trying to
> say and finally nailing it.
>
> The fine line between self censoring and becoming better is all about
> knowing when to let it go.  For me, the final call is when it REALLY stop=
s
> being fun.
>
> That's when I fold 'em... and either release it or let it incubate till
> another day... or decade...
>
> Inspiring post, Rick!  Thanks
>
> R
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
>
>
>
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>
> On Jul 31, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jeremy devros wrote:
>
>> I enjoy everyone's thoughts on this. I happen to love Eno's work and can
>> appreciate what he's saying. I found it to be more about a humble
>> confidence in one's work/abilities insofar as one can play/compose/recor=
d
>> and be done without too much looking back. For me personally, I find my
>> literary endeavors have a much greater degree of self censorship and/or
>> editing. I will return to pieces written 25 years ago, thinking then the=
y
>> were perfect, and edit the hell out of them and THEN think they are
>> perfect. Maybe I'll be re-visiting them again at 70 for another go aroun=
d.
>> J.D.
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:50:48 -0700
>> > From: looppool@cruzio.com
>> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> > Subject: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno
>> >
>> > Derek Sivers who used to own CD Baby put up a wonderful
>> > site of quotations about music and art.
>> >
>> > http://musicthoughts.com/cat/1
>> >
>> > Amongst many others, I love this quote from Brian Eno.
>> > It encapsulates so much of why I love looped music and music that
>> > contains repetition.
>> >
>
>

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Ted glad you're going to kim's service.  You're one of the longest
around here and clearly can appreciate the early days of kim's energy
I think.

What has society come to when you get fined for sleeping in your car
bt these days probably serves a purpose.  Luck with getting a sofa
sure someone will open up for your time inSF.

Jimu

On 8/1/10, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> I thought I'd put out call to any fellow loopers in the wider SF Bay
> Area who might not mind lending me a sofa for a night as I'll be
> driving down from Oregon for Kim's memorial service on Saturday,
> August, 14th in Berkeley. It's save me the cost of a hotel room (or a
> ticket for sleeping in my car) and possibly give further opportunity
> to visit. Please email me off-list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ted
>
>

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Yes! i perfectly agree. Repetition is impossible also because
as John Cage said:
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as you told our perceptions is constantly changing

Massimo 


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Hi folks,

I've been doing the Audio Tarot Bone Throw show Fridays at around midnight 
(though this last Friday's blackout put a spanner in the works until late 
Saturday!  Got to invest in a UPS/line filter/suppressor!), and have begun 
to wonder what the actual best time is to do these shows, from a worldwide 
or US perspective.  Of course midnight is 4pm Pacific, 7pm Eastern, so 
perhaps not the best time... or is it?  Your opinions are more than 
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Stephen Goodman
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Rick Walker wrote:

> a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (
 
> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it 
> and it came out beautifully.
> 

where can I get a copy?

andy

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Mark Showalter wrote:
 
> And BTW, I'm not the same Mark as the fellow below.

yes, we know that.


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Since we just discussed his methods for applied creativity in music
I'd like to share this link that just dropped into my inbox:

http://warp.net/records/brian-eno

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Andy Butler said:
> "My take is that there's vastly more people who want to be *seen*
> as creative artists than really care about the art itself.
> I've always thought that any true creative motivation will
> exist without acceptance being an issue. (and if, as it's said, it 
> does take 10,000 hours to get good
>  at something, then there has to be a lot of hard work with
>  no recognition somewhere along the way) "
This reminds me (although I understand that your argument goes into a 
different direction altogether it seems to me) of that theatre 
director/manager (forgot his name, wasn't that important) who took it as 
a proof of the oustanding artistic quality of the plays directed by him 
that they were usually performed in front of a less than half-empty 
house, whereas contemporaries such as Dieter Dorn always faced houses 
sold out in advance.

Back to your statement: while caring about the art itself is vital 
(unless you're trying to make it big in the pop world, of course), some 
sort of audience feedback seems helpful to me, too. Not that I get that 
much of it; to take my ongoing internet streaming concert, I think I 
maxed out once at a dozen viewers or so (not counting the VSV), with 
typically two or three, and I had also performed in front of a virtual 
empty house. Does that make my art really valid? Or does it just tell us 
that either my art sucks or I don't do enough for marketing?

What I'm trying to get at: you should invest those 10000 hours to get 
good at making music, but while you're doing that, you should also 
invest at least 2500 hours in marketing (unless you really don't care).

          Rainer

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Stephen Goodman schrieb:
> I've been doing the Audio Tarot Bone Throw show Fridays at around 
> midnight (though this last Friday's blackout put a spanner in the 
> works until late Saturday!  Got to invest in a UPS/line 
> filter/suppressor!), and have begun to wonder what the actual best 
> time is to do these shows, from a worldwide or US perspective.  Of 
> course midnight is 4pm Pacific, 7pm Eastern, so perhaps not the best 
> time... or is it?  Your opinions are more than valued...
Do you have some kind of insight into where the bulk of your audience 
comes from and how their schedule is? Then focus on them.

For me, I had put my MoinSound Studio Sessions series onto a Saturday 
1700 GMT, because that's 0900 US West Coast (i.e. not too early), before 
the evening hours in the UK/Western Europe, and if somebody in Asia 
really wants to catch it, he can do so without having to get up at 0600 
on a Sunday or so.

Weekend days have the advantage that the majority of people with typical 
day jobs are (or can be) free most of the day, while the evening hours 
are usually kept for something else. This may be totally different for 
gigging musicians, who (I suppose) play in the later evening all through 
the night and would have a hard time catching a show Saturday in the 
morning...

So does my approach work? Probably not, hardly anyone ever drops by.

          Rainer

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2010/100731.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                Show #178                July 31, 2010.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Ricochet Gathering   Muflon Sorcerers     Muflon Sorcerers (Syngate and
                       Part 1               Ricochet Dream)
VA [Martin Gerke]    Isolation            Sequences No. 10
VA [Mystic Shade]    Spirit               Sequences No. 10
VA [Myth Gestalt     Non Human Pilots     Sequences No. 10
  Musik]
Kubusschnitt         All Things Lost      Entropy's Evolution (EH)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Michele McLaughlin   Forbearance          Out of the Darkness (none)
Bear                 Stranger in a        Untroubled (Weaseltrap)
                       Foreign Land
Angel Dubeau and La  Silentium            Arvo Part Portrait (Analekta)
  Pieta


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Spock's Beard        From the Darkness    X (none)
Edensong             Beneath the Tide     Echoes of Edensong (none)
Shadow Gallery       With Honor           Digital Ghosts (InsideOut)


 * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill Fox
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> Andy Butler said:
>> "My take is that there's vastly more people who want to be *seen*
>> as creative artists than really care about the art itself.
>> I've always thought that any true creative motivation will
>> exist without acceptance being an issue. (and if, as it's said, it 
>> does take 10,000 hours to get good
>>  at something, then there has to be a lot of hard work with
>>  no recognition somewhere along the way) "

Rainer Straschill wrote:

> Back to your statement: while caring about the art itself is vital 
> (unless you're trying to make it big in the pop world, of course), some 
> sort of audience feedback seems helpful to me, too. Not that I get that 
> much of it; to take my ongoing internet streaming concert, I think I 
> maxed out once at a dozen viewers or so (not counting the VSV), with 
> typically two or three, and I had also performed in front of a virtual 
> empty house. Does that make my art really valid? Or does it just tell us 
> that either my art sucks or I don't do enough for marketing?

It doesn't tell us anything about your art at all,
...except that you still want to play when no-ones watching.

> What I'm trying to get at: you should invest those 10000 hours to get 
> good at making music, but while you're doing that, you should also 
> invest at least 2500 hours in marketing (unless you really don't care).

I think I'm a bit short of your ideal ratio on promotion.

I do have a desire to communicate though, and have some sort of a 
concept of "putting on a show". I don't think that's a compromise
of artistic integrity.

I'm not trying to validate the idea of the artist who contributes
nothing to society...just tired of the hype.
( it's worse in UK too )

andy

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  MR. IHUKA JAMES
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Nigeria
PRIVATE EMAIL (ihuja@sify.com)
=A0
RE: TRANSFER OF ($48,223.000.00 USD} FORTY EIGHT
MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND
DOLLARS) INTO YOUR ACCOUNT.
=A0
I feel quite safe dealing with you in this important business. Though, =
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your safe bank account information for the transfer. All arrangement that =
will ensure a smooth transfer of the fund to the account, which you are =
to nominate, is already in place. You should also provide me with your =
direct phone lines for easy communication. I wish for utmost =
confidentiality in handling this transaction.
=A0
At the conclusion of this transaction, your share will be 30% of the =
total transfer sum, 60% for my partner and me while 10% will be set aside =
for any expenses both parties might incure during the process of the =
transfer. The fund will be transferred to your account in two parts. I =
will first transfer $20USD Million to your account. I will fly over to =
meet you after the successful transfer for sharing according to the =
agreed percentages. I will have the remaining balance of USD$28,223 =
Million transferred to your account only after the successful sharing of =
the first transfer without any disappointment from your side.
=A0
Let me hear from you URGENTLY.
=A0
For further inquiries contact me through my private email address: =
(ihuja@sify.com)
Let all email be through my private email address
(ihuja@sify.com)
=A0
Best Regards,
=A0
MR. IHUKA JAMES
Tel: + 874 - 763 - 648313
Fax: +874 - 763 - 648314
Email: (ihuja@sify.com)
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/>MILLION TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND<br />DOLLARS) INTO YOUR =
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important business. Though, this medium (Internet) has been greatly =
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fastest medium of communication. However, this correspondence is =
unofficial and private, and it should be treated as such.<br />&nbsp;<br =
/>At first I will like to assure you that this transaction is 100% risk =
and trouble free to both parties.<br />&nbsp;<br />My name is MR. IHUKA =
JAMES,I work as the personal manager in account management section in =
charge of credit and foreign bills of one of the prime banks here in =
Nigeria. On a routine inspection I discovered a dormant domiciliary =
account with a Balance Of S$48,223,000. 00 (Forty eight million two =
hundred and twenty three thousand U.S dollar). On further discreet =
investigation, I also discovered that the account holder has died long =
ago with his family on a plane crash leaving no beneficiary to the =
account and no other person knows about this account.<br />&nbsp;<br />I =
am in close contact with the manager of the bank here who is my partner =
and he is willing to approve the transfer to any reliable and trustworthy =
foreigner with foreign bank account because the former operator of the =
a/c is a foreigner and from Australia in particular. I am certainly sure =
that he has no written or oral WILL attached to the account, no =
beneficiary and nobody will come again for the claim of this money. It is =
only a foreigner who can claim this money with legal claims to the =
account holder, which I will provide to you if you are interested, =
therefore I need your cooperation in this transaction. The difference in =
country of origins is not a hindrance to the success of this transaction. =
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transfer the fund out to a foreign account.<br />&nbsp;<br />I will =
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this money. I only need your cooperation as a foreigner to provide your =
safe bank account information for the transfer. All arrangement that will =
ensure a smooth transfer of the fund to the account, which you are to =
nominate, is already in place. You should also provide me with your =
direct phone lines for easy communication. I wish for utmost =
confidentiality in handling this transaction.<br />&nbsp;<br />At the =
conclusion of this transaction, your share will be 30% of the total =
transfer sum, 60% for my partner and me while 10% will be set aside for =
any expenses both parties might incure during the process of the =
transfer. The fund will be transferred to your account in two parts. I =
will first transfer $20USD Million to your account. I will fly over to =
meet you after the successful transfer for sharing according to the =
agreed percentages. I will have the remaining balance of USD$28,223 =
Million transferred to your account only after the successful sharing of =
the first transfer without any disappointment from your side.<br =
/>&nbsp;<br />Let me hear from you URGENTLY.<br />&nbsp;<br />For further =
inquiries contact me through my private email address: =
(ihuja@sify.com)<br />Let all email be through my private email =
address<br />(ihuja@sify.com)<br />&nbsp;<br />Best Regards,<br =
/>&nbsp;<br />MR. IHUKA JAMES<br />Tel: + 874 - 763 - 648313<br />Fax: =
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=A0
Good day and compliments, I know this letter will definitely come to you as=
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huge surprise, but I implore you to take the time to go through it carefull=
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the decision you make will go off a long way to determine my future and
continued existence.Please allow me to introduce myself.I am Sgt. Charles
Moore, a US Marine Sgt.serving in the 3rd Battalion, 25th Marine Regiment t=
hat
Patrols the helmand province, Afghanistan. I am desperately in need of
assistance and I have summoned up courage to contact you. I am presently in
Afghanistan and I found your contact particulars in an address journal.
=A0
I am seeking your assistance to evacuate the sum of $14.5m (Fourteen Millio=
n
Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) to you,as far as I can be=A0 a=
ssured
that it will be safe in your care until I complete my service here.=A0 This=
 is no
stolen money and there are no dangers involved.
=A0
SOURCE OF MONEY:
Some money in US DOLLARS was discovered and concealed in barrels at a locat=
ion
in helman province when we conducted a foot patrol and it was agreed by all
party present that the money be shared amongst us.This might appear as an
illegal thing to do but I tell you what? No compensation can make up for th=
e
risks we have taken with our lives in this hellhole.The above figure was gi=
ven
to me as my share and to conceal this kind of money became a problem for me=
, so
with the help of a British contact working with the UN here (his office enj=
oys
some immunity) I was able to get the package out to a safe location entirel=
y out
of trouble spot.
=A0
He does not know the real contents of the package as he believes that it be=
longs
to an American who died in an air raid, who before giving up trusted me to =
hand
over the package to his close relative. I have now found a secured way of
getting the package out of Afghanistan for you to pick up. I do not know fo=
r how
long I will remain here, as I have been lucky to survive 2 suicide bomb att=
acks
by Pure Divine intervention.
=A0
This and other reasons put into consideration have prompted me to reach out=
 for
help. If it might be of interest to you then Endeavor to contact me immedia=
tely
and we would work out the necessary formalities but I pray that you are dis=
creet
about this mutually benefiting relationship.=20
=A0
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ments, I know this letter will definitely come to you as a<BR>huge surprise=
, but I implore you to take the time to go through it carefully as<BR>the d=
ecision you make will go off a long way to determine my future and<BR>conti=
nued existence.Please allow me to introduce myself.I am Sgt. Charles<BR>Moo=
re, a US Marine Sgt.serving in the 3rd Battalion, 25th Marine Regiment that=
<BR>Patrols the helmand province, Afghanistan. I am desperately in need of<=
BR>assistance and I have summoned up courage to contact you. I am presently=
 in<BR>Afghanistan and I found your contact particulars in an address journ=
al.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I am seeking your assistance to evacuate the sum of $14.5m=
 (Fourteen Million<BR>Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) to you,a=
s far as I can be&nbsp; assured<BR>that it will be safe in your care until =
I
 complete my service here.&nbsp; This is no<BR>stolen money and there are n=
o dangers involved.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>SOURCE OF MONEY:<BR>Some money in US DOLLA=
RS was discovered and concealed in barrels at a location<BR>in helman provi=
nce when we conducted a foot patrol and it was agreed by all<BR>party prese=
nt that the money be shared amongst us.This might appear as an<BR>illegal t=
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s we have taken with our lives in this hellhole.The above figure was given<=
BR>to me as my share and to conceal this kind of money became a problem for=
 me, so<BR>with the help of a British contact working with the UN here (his=
 office enjoys<BR>some immunity) I was able to get the package out to a saf=
e location entirely out<BR>of trouble spot.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>He does not know t=
he real contents of the package as he believes that it belongs<BR>to an Ame=
rican who died in an air raid, who before giving up trusted me to
 hand<BR>over the package to his close relative. I have now found a secured=
 way of<BR>getting the package out of Afghanistan for you to pick up. I do =
not know for how<BR>long I will remain here, as I have been lucky to surviv=
e 2 suicide bomb attacks<BR>by Pure Divine intervention.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>This =
and other reasons put into consideration have prompted me to reach out for<=
BR>help. If it might be of interest to you then Endeavor to contact me imme=
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Thanks Rick, that was quite an experience you shared. The journeys you and 
Bill have undertaken and the experiences acquired and now shared with us 
over the years do make both of you living art ya.  Thanks!

Randolf
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From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Re: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno

> richard sales wrote:
>    "It is fun to go back to old work and figuring out what you were trying 
> to say and finally nailing it.  The fine line between self censoring and 
> becoming better is all about knowing when to let it go.  For me, the final 
> call is when it REALLY stops being fun.  That's when I fold 'em... and 
> either release it or let it incubate till another day... or decade..."
>
> I really resonate with this sentiment.
>
> I've actually come to see all artistic output as a work in progress. 
> Usually do to time constraints, market contraints, personal constraints, 
> personell constraints
> or whatever,  we are forced to either release a record or, as Richard 
> says,  fold 'em and move on.
>
> Let me take a moment to illustrate this:
>
> I had a very rare opportunity in my life back in the early 90's.   I had a 
> group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (including my brother, 
> Bill) and we were doing all original instrumental fusions of many 
> different kinds of world ethnic musics.    At the time, we didn't have 
> enough money to go in and cut a decent record (and this was really before 
> it was affordable to have a good home recording studio without spending 
> the thousands of dollars it would take (that we didn't have anyway).
>
> One, day, eating at the Catalyst prior to a weekend headliner we had 
> planned there,  an angel came to me in the form of an older man named Bob 
> Davis who was a big fan of the band.    He asked me if he could buy our 
> album because he loved the music so much.  I told him that we didn't.  He 
> said,  "why?"  and I told him that it was pretty expensive to make an 
> album that was ambitious as the stuff we were doing.    Anyway,  to make a 
> much longer story shorter,  Bob just gave me the money to make the record. 
> I told him that I would get hold of our lawyer (we didn't have one 
> <blush>) and we'd work out a way to pay him back.
> He said, "no, you wont'".    And I said,  "why".     "Because this money 
> is a gift, it is not an investment and I only want one thing from you in 
> return,"  he replied.
> "I want you to make the album that is in your heart.  I want you to make 
> it as good as you can make it and I want it to be your vision, without 
> worrying about
> the marketplace."
>
> I was flabbergasted and began the long and hard work of trying to get this 
> record recorded the way it was in my head.   I didn't hold back
> and finally, in the long run,  it cost about $12,000 (all of which Bob 
> generously paid) and took about a year to make working as hard as we could 
> to make it.
>
> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it and 
> it came out beautifully.
>
> When I look back at it now, however,   I realize that it is a wonderful 
> snapshot of who I was (and who the entire band was) at that time (almost 
> 20 years later).
> In the context of all of my own personal artistry,   it is a really nice 
> 'work in progress'.     I've grown immeasurably as an artist since that 
> time and I can't wait to finish the records I'm working on now,   but my 
> belief is that they will still be a work in progress, no matter how much 
> time or perfectionism I put into them.
> I guess because my head is full of ideas I want to manifest  it's become 
> much less important to me to edit heavily or to be perfectionistic.
> Just because of who we are,  we are going to try and get it 'right'. 
> That, of course, precluded a certain amount  of self censorship.    Heck 
> deciding what tunes
> go on the album and what ones don't is a form of censorship and move in 
> the direction of perfectionism.
>
> I'm just saying that it is being out of balance between output and self 
> censorship that is something to watch out for.
> 

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That's one aspect that I love about Live Looping... sometimes in privacy you 
get to hear it for yourself 1st the resulting crap before subjecting 
unsuspecting others. other times it's a blissful experienced that's shared 
by performer and the listener/s both witnessing the act of executing and 
sculpting to the point of eventual chance beauty...

Randolf

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> When I was in school, there was a theater group that espoused an anarchist 
> philosophy and was very concerned with not trampling anyone's artistic 
> vision. The result was that they would put on evenings of short one-act 
> plays that a professor accurately described as "30 minutes of good ideas 
> crammed into three hours". At some point, editing becomes critical. 90% of 
> everything is crap. On the other hand, you may not know which 90% at the 
> time, so other ears or eyes or just a distance in time are critical to 
> making that analysis. The theater group needed a director who, for the 
> sake of the audience, would say "these is good, let's go with it; this 
> isn't working."
>
> For me, playing live improvised music is a crapshoot. There are moments of 
> beauty. There are also times when I want to apologize to the audience for 
> wasting their time.
>
> Mark
> 

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Compliment of the day,

I would like to apply through this medium for your co-operation and to secure an opportunity to invest and do joint business with you and my family in your country. I have the intention to invest with you, into a very lucrative business venture of which you are to advise and execute the said venture over there for the mutual benefits of both of us.

Your able co-operation is to become my business partner in your country and create ideas on how money will be invested, properly managed and the type of investment after the money is transferred to your account with your assistance.

My names are Mr. Goodluck Addo. I am 51 years old married with two lovely kids. I have packaged a financial transaction that will benefit both of us, as an officer in my Bank; it is my duty to send in a financial report to my Head Office in the end of each business year.

On the course of the last two year 2008 business report, I discovered that my branch in which I am ranking officer made Six Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars ($6,500,000.00) which my Head Office are not aware of and will never be aware of it. I have placed this funds on SUSPENSE ACCOUNT with no beneficiary. As an officer of this bank I cannot be directly connected to this money, this informed my contacting you. Indeed I will appreciate if you can receive this money in your bank account and get 30% of the total funds. There are practically no risks involved, it is simple bank to bank transfer, all I need from you is to stand as one of our customer who has been banking with us and the depositor of this funds with my branch, so that upon your request for its immediate transfer my head Office will not hesitate to transfer to your designated bank account.

Meanwhile, on indication of your willingness to handle this transaction sincerely by protecting my interests and upon your acceptance of this proposal, I would furnish you with the full detailed information and procedure  I have mapped out for this transaction.
I shall be glad to reciprocate this gesture to you. If you so desire, but do urge you to give the matter your immediate attention it deserves.

If you accept this offer to work with me, and you find this proposal Suitable for you, do furnish me with the following information.

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Await your response.

Yours Sincerely,
Mr. Goodluck Addo

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   It is my pleasure contacting you now, as I have longed to get in touch with anybody who knew my late Client.I am Michael Briggs personal attorney to my late client, who died along with his wife and only son in an auto crash on the 17th of July, 2007 that occurred in Paris, France.
 
  My client had deposited about Four million United States dollars in a bank. Since then there had not been any trace of claim from any person as the fund remains dormant in his account with this bank. Although, I kept this information secret within my jurisdiction to enable me put claims and transfer the said amount through a trustworthy Partner whom I shall present to the bank as the next-of-kin to the deceased to my late client. Ever since I have been trying to locate the next of kin or any of the relatives to come forward and make this claim, but to no avail.
 
  Since you are from the same nationality AND bear the same surname with my late client and I have in my powers to present you as relative to my late client to enable you inherit the fund as his next of kin and only surviving relative and claim the funds. I am willing to process the needed documents to have you presented as next of kin to my late client so that you can become heir to the funds he deposited in the bank before his death.
 
 As soon as you become beneficiary to the funds, and the funds transferred to your account in your country, 50% will be yours for your assistance while the remaining 50% will be mine.
 
  If you interested in this offer please mail me as soon as possible. On receipt of your response to this mail I will give you more details.
 
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Dear Beneficiary,

We are writing to let you know that one Mr Gumanti R. H. Sihombing MM from Jl. Sunggal 157, Kompleks Perumahan  BPKP, Medan, Indonesia came to our Office today to claim your fund  ($6.5Million) that is with our custody and said that you are dead, that he is your brother , you gave him Authority to claim your fund in case if you  die. We are writing to find if it is true that you are dead so that your fund will be released to him.
If we did not hear from you within three working days that means you are dead true and your fund will be release to him.

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Kindly get back to us by email as soon as you receive this message

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/top20-07jul.html

WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for July, 2010.
Shows #691 to #695; 1-July-2010 to 29-July-2010
Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order.
Compiled by Bill Fox
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The Special Focus for July was >Rene van der Wouden.
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#jul


ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
========================================================================
ARC - Church - DiN
Alio Die and Parallel Worlds - Circo Divino - Hic Sunt Leones
Conrad Schnitzler and Wolfgang Siedel - 10 kW/h - Ricochet Dream
Eitan Reiter - Places I Miss That I Haven't Been To - Aleph Zero
Erik Wollo - Gateway - Projekt
Fredrik Ohr - Falling Through the Earth - Aleph Zero
Jonn Serrie - Thousand Star - New World
Kubusschnitt - Entropy's Evolution - none
Max Corbacho - Ars Lucis - ad21
Mikronesia - Mikronesia - none
Mikronesia - vxvii - Kikapu
Rene van der Wouden - Alchemia - REWO
Rene van der Wouden - Numerus Fixus - REWO
Rene van der Wouden - Pro Sequentia - REWO
Rene van der Wouden - Recreation - REWO
Rene van der Wouden - Universal Quiet - REWO
Ricochet Gathering - Muflon Sorcerers - SynGate and Ricochet Dream
Robert Rich - ylang - Soundscape Productions
Steve Roach - Here Sigh of Ages - Projekt
The Tangent Project - Live on Star's End 12.06.09 - none

Bill
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Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
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Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line.
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
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If you would like to attend Kim's memorial in Berkeley on August 14th and
you have not received the invitation via private email or the Facebook
group, please reply to this and I'll send you details.

Everyone on LD who would like to come is welcome.

Violet
xoxox

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Regards,


Harry Weinberg, Esq.

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If you would like to attend Kim's memorial in Berkeley on August 14th and
you have not received the invitation via private email or the Facebook
group, please reply to this and I'll send you details.

Everyone on LD who would like to come is welcome.

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Dear Sir/Madam,


I know this will come to you as a surprise but never mind, I got your Contactin my search for a reputable and trust worthy person/Company, Whocan standconfidently with me in this successful business Arrangement.Before I proceed, Iwill like to introduce my humble self to you 

I am the Auditor General of a Government Accredited Oil Company here in Nigeria . Certainly, the prompting of this letter to you is anchored on my strong desire to solicit your sincere understanding and co-operation in this Transaction that would certainly boost the financial stand of both parties involved when completed. As a matter of fact, we want to transfer to overseas (US$ 52,000.000.00 USD) fifty two million Unite States Dollars) from the Oil Company's perating Bank account here in Africa, I want you to quietly Look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to Provide either an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank A/C mediately to receive this money, even an empty account can serve to Receive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end Of
this important transaction, trusting in you and believing in God That you will Never let me down either now or in the near future.

In all honesty, during the course of our auditing I discovered a Floating fund of the above mentioned amount in account opened with the Bank in 1990 and since then; nobody has operated on this account again, After going through some old files in the records I discovered that the Money in the account was mapped out for the refurbishment of the Oil Company's Machineries. Meanwhile, Mr. Magnus Leon, the President of the Oil Company was the only signatory to the account, but unfortunately he died after a brief Illness in 1993. And no other person knows about this account or any Thing concerning it, and the account has no other beneficiary. And my investigation proved to me that Mr. Magnus Leon, until his death Had wanted to siphoned that money into his personal account in New York Hence he did not disclose the operating devises of the account to the Board of Trustees

I am only contacting you in this regard, based on the fact that you are A foreigner because, this money can only be approved to any foreigner Who can present all documents that will prove that he/she is the Next of Kin/Beneficiary to the account base on the fact that Mr. Magnus Leon The owner of this account is a foreigner, and the money can only be approved into a foreign bank Account. Therefore, if you are capable of handling this transaction with me, lets Make the necessary arrangement for the hitch-free transfer of this Money to any safe bank account that you may nominate, on a share Percentage bases. However, we shall sign a binding agreement, to bind us together as partners in this regard.

I am revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let Me down in this business, you are the first and the only person that I Am contacting for this business, so please reply urgently and indicate Your sincere interest, so that I can inform you on the modalities Already mapped out for the hitch- free transfer of the money out of Africa here. I will require your direct phone and fax number for easy contacting you I need your full co-operation to make this work adequately. Upon your Positive response and once I am convinced that you are capable and Willing to meet up with the instructions of the top bank official that is deeply involved with me in this business, I shall commence actions Immediately to process the payment of the money in your favor as the Beneficiary With my influence and the position of the bank official we can transfer This money to any reliable foreign bank account, which you can provide.

I am looking forward in anticipation to hearing from you soon as
Possible.
Yours truly,

DR MARK JOHN
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Dr.mark john<br />
Lagos-Nigeria.<br />
Reply to:markjohn0088@yahoo.com.hk<br />
ATTN: Sir /Madam<br />
<br />
Dear Sir/Madam,<br />
<br />
<br />
I know this will come to you as a surprise but never mind, I got your Conta=
ctin my search for a reputable and trust worthy person/Company, Whocan stan=
dconfidently with me in this successful business Arrangement.Before I proce=
ed, Iwill like to introduce my humble self to you <br />
<br />
I am the Auditor General of a Government Accredited Oil Company here in Nig=
eria . Certainly, the prompting of this letter to you is anchored on my str=
ong desire to solicit your sincere understanding and co-operation in this T=
ransaction that would certainly boost the financial stand of both parties i=
nvolved when completed. As a matter of fact, we want to transfer to oversea=
s (US$ 52,000.000.00 USD) fifty two million Unite States Dollars) from the =
Oil Company's perating Bank account here in Africa, I want you to quietly L=
ook for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to Provide=
 either an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank A/C mediately to r=
eceive this money, even an empty account can serve to Receive this money, a=
s long as you will remain honest to me till the end Of<br />
this important transaction, trusting in you and believing in God That you w=
ill Never let me down either now or in the near future.<br />
<br />
In all honesty, during the course of our auditing I discovered a Floating f=
und of the above mentioned amount in account opened with the Bank in 1990 a=
nd since then; nobody has operated on this account again, After going throu=
gh some old files in the records I discovered that the Money in the account=
 was mapped out for the refurbishment of the Oil Company's Machineries. Mea=
nwhile, Mr. Magnus Leon, the President of the Oil Company was the only sign=
atory to the account, but unfortunately he died after a brief Illness in 19=
93. And no other person knows about this account or any Thing concerning it=
, and the account has no other beneficiary. And my investigation proved to =
me that Mr. Magnus Leon, until his death Had wanted to siphoned that money =
into his personal account in New York Hence he did not disclose the operati=
ng devises of the account to the Board of Trustees<br />
<br />
I am only contacting you in this regard, based on the fact that you are A f=
oreigner because, this money can only be approved to any foreigner Who can =
present all documents that will prove that he/she is the Next of Kin/Benefi=
ciary to the account base on the fact that Mr. Magnus Leon The owner of thi=
s account is a foreigner, and the money can only be approved into a foreign=
 bank Account. Therefore, if you are capable of handling this transaction w=
ith me, lets Make the necessary arrangement for the hitch-free transfer of =
this Money to any safe bank account that you may nominate, on a share Perce=
ntage bases. However, we shall sign a binding agreement, to bind us togethe=
r as partners in this regard.<br />
<br />
I am revealing this to you with believe in God that you will never let Me d=
own in this business, you are the first and the only person that I Am conta=
cting for this business, so please reply urgently and indicate Your sincere=
 interest, so that I can inform you on the modalities Already mapped out fo=
r the hitch- free transfer of the money out of Africa here. I will require =
your direct phone and fax number for easy contacting you I need your full c=
o-operation to make this work adequately. Upon your Positive response and o=
nce I am convinced that you are capable and Willing to meet up with the ins=
tructions of the top bank official that is deeply involved with me in this =
business, I shall commence actions Immediately to process the payment of th=
e money in your favor as the Beneficiary With my influence and the position=
 of the bank official we can transfer This money to any reliable foreign ba=
nk account, which you can provide.<br />
<br />
I am looking forward in anticipation to hearing from you soon as<br />
Possible.<br />
Yours truly,<br />
<br />
DR MARK JOHN<br />
PLEASE SEND YOU REPLY TO MY CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY<br>
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Yes, when and where?

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Violet Xoxox <violet@missviolet.com> wrote:


From: Violet Xoxox <violet@missviolet.com>
Subject: you are invited to Kim's memorial
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 11:59 AM


If you would like to attend Kim's memorial in Berkeley on August 14th and
you have not received the invitation via private email or the Facebook
group, please reply to this and I'll send you details.

Everyone on LD who would like to come is welcome.

Violet
xoxox




      
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Yes, when and where?<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 8/3/10, Violet Xoxox <I>&lt;violet@missviolet.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Violet Xoxox &lt;violet@missviolet.com&gt;<BR>Subject: you are invited to Kim's memorial<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 11:59 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>If you would like to attend Kim's memorial in Berkeley on August 14th and<BR>you have not received the invitation via private email or the Facebook<BR>group, please reply to this and I'll send you details.<BR><BR>Everyone on LD who would like to come is welcome.<BR><BR>Violet<BR>xoxox<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>

      
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I will be out of the office starting  07/31/2010 and will not return until
08/16/2010.

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he,he,he ... nice holidays, peter !!!

2010/8/4  <peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com>:
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>
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> I will be out of the office starting =A007/31/2010 and will not return un=
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Hi All,

I used to subscribe to Loopers Delight until about 2005. But, I got  
busy with working on my doctoral dissertation and had to trim my  
"distractions" back to a bare minimum for the last five years.

Good news--I finished my dissertation and I can once again focus on  
the things that bring joy to my life. I just bought an Echoplex to  
replace the one that I sold several years ago, and over the next  
several months, I hope to get up to speed on it.

I was saddened to hear the news of Kim's tragic death. My condolences  
to those of you who were close to him.

I went by the name Toejam before I unsubscribed. I'm PeeCee on the  
Plexi Palace Vintage Guitar forum and also on The Gear Page.

While waiting for my new (used) Echoplex to arrive I've been playing  
around with the only looper I have in the house right now--an RC-20XL-- 
not a very well thought out piece of gear, but it's kind of fun I guess.

I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and learning from you  
over the next years.

PeeCee


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Re: Settlement of your Overdue Contract Payment:

We hereby officially notifying you about the present arrangement to pay =
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Channel) This arrangement was initiated/constituted by the World Bank, =
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Hello loopists,

i've just been listening to Bunty, who does some rather nice vocal looping 
stuff. I can't remember her being mentioned here before ,so thought I would 
share...
http://www.myspace.com/buntylooping 


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I can burn you one when this festival is finally over!   It's long out 
of print.

andy butler wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Rick 
> Walker wrote:
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>> a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (
>
>> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it 
>> and it came out beautifully.
>>
>
> where can I get a copy?
>
> andy
> </div>

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Welcome back PC.

I'm not sure I remember a "Toejam" lurking around these parts some  
years back, maybe.

But then again I'm getting old and my memory's going.

Welcome aboard!

Cheers,

Ted Killian

On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:06 AM, PC wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I used to subscribe to Loopers Delight until about 2005. But, I got  
> busy with working on my doctoral dissertation and had to trim my  
> "distractions" back to a bare minimum for the last five years.
>
> Good news--I finished my dissertation and I can once again focus on  
> the things that bring joy to my life. I just bought an Echoplex to  
> replace the one that I sold several years ago, and over the next  
> several months, I hope to get up to speed on it.
>
> I was saddened to hear the news of Kim's tragic death. My  
> condolences to those of you who were close to him.
>
> I went by the name Toejam before I unsubscribed. I'm PeeCee on the  
> Plexi Palace Vintage Guitar forum and also on The Gear Page.
>
> While waiting for my new (used) Echoplex to arrive I've been playing  
> around with the only looper I have in the house right now--an  
> RC-20XL--not a very well thought out piece of gear, but it's kind of  
> fun I guess.
>
> I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and learning from you  
> over the next years.
>
> PeeCee
>

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I'd love to hear that too Rick, and I bet so would a lot of others.

Perhaps you could just post it up at Reverbnation (or some other such  
outlet).

Cheers,

Ted

On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> I can burn you one when this festival is finally over!   It's long  
> out of print.
>
> andy butler wrote:
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Rick  
>> Walker wrote:
>>
>>> a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (
>>
>>> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on  
>>> it and it came out beautifully.
>>>
>>
>> where can I get a copy?
>>
>> andy
>> </div>
>

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>
>
> Good news--I finished my dissertation and I can once again focus on  
> the things that bring joy to my life.

Cheers! It's a long, miserable, lonely road. Glad to meet another  
person who made it to the other side safely.

Jeff

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Hey Rick,

I would really love to have a listen also.

Andre

On Wed, August 4, 2010 9:13 am, Rick Walker wrote:
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> of print.
>
> andy butler wrote:
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Rick
>> Walker wrote:
>>
>>> a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (
>>
>>> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it
>>> and it came out beautifully.
>>>
>>
>> where can I get a copy?
>>
>> andy
>> </div>
>
>



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http://www.andredonawa.com
http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
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Yup....

My thoughts at graduation--considering its only a few meters from that  
side of the stage to this, it sure was a tedious trek.

Good company on both sides, though.

PC


On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote:

>>
>>
>> Good news--I finished my dissertation and I can once again focus on  
>> the things that bring joy to my life.
>
> Cheers! It's a long, miserable, lonely road. Glad to meet another  
> person who made it to the other side safely.
>
> Jeff
>

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Thanks, Ted.

I vaguely remember having difficulty syncing the FCB1010 to the EDP =20
and just not having enough time to spend to work it all out.

Hopefully it will be easier this time around.

PC

On Aug 4, 2010, at 11:17 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

> Welcome back PC.
>
> I'm not sure I remember a "Toejam" lurking around these parts some =20
> years back, maybe.
>
> But then again I'm getting old and my memory's going.
>
> Welcome aboard!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted Killian
>
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:06 AM, PC wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I used to subscribe to Loopers Delight until about 2005. But, I got =20=

>> busy with working on my doctoral dissertation and had to trim my =20
>> "distractions" back to a bare minimum for the last five years.
>>
>> Good news--I finished my dissertation and I can once again focus on =20=

>> the things that bring joy to my life. I just bought an Echoplex to =20=

>> replace the one that I sold several years ago, and over the next =20
>> several months, I hope to get up to speed on it.
>>
>> I was saddened to hear the news of Kim's tragic death. My =20
>> condolences to those of you who were close to him.
>>
>> I went by the name Toejam before I unsubscribed. I'm PeeCee on the =20=

>> Plexi Palace Vintage Guitar forum and also on The Gear Page.
>>
>> While waiting for my new (used) Echoplex to arrive I've been =20
>> playing around with the only looper I have in the house right now--=20=

>> an RC-20XL--not a very well thought out piece of gear, but it's =20
>> kind of fun I guess.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to getting to know you all and learning from =20
>> you over the next years.
>>
>> PeeCee
>>
>

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Fellow loopists,=20



Greetings from the road...I'm visiting CO for=C2=A0a few weeks.=20



There is a great website called Couchsurfing.org that you can post a person=
al profile on and also search for sofas, couches and rooms in generous peop=
les' homes that will host you for a few days, and all you need to do is "pa=
y it forward" at some point. Check it out.=20



Some very cool people on there!=20



So Ted, you may want to check this avenue out for your stay in San Fran.=20



BTW...there are couch surfers from all over the world, so if you wanted to =
visit Europe, Asia, etc. you could! And you'll meet new friends along the w=
ay...if you're adventurous enough.=20



Peace,=20



Edward Yuhas=20





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<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Greetings from the road...I'm visiting CO for&nbsp;a few weeks.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>There is a great website called Couchsurfing.org that you can post a personal profile on and also search for sofas, couches and rooms in generous peoples' homes that will host you for a few days, and all you need to do is "pay it forward" at some point. Check it out.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Some very cool people on there!</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>So Ted, you may want to check this avenue out for your stay in San Fran.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>BTW...there are couch surfers from all over the world, so if you wanted to visit Europe, Asia, etc. you could! And you'll meet new friends along the way...if you're adventurous enough.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Peace,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Edward Yuhas</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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I have one of these that I have not used for a long time now and need =20=

to free up some space in the studio.

$45 + shipping.  (Cosmetically, the unit looks almost brand new. Unit =20=

is hardwired for power and thankfully does not require a wall wart.)

For live and recording applications.  Apparently, they were =20
originally designed for musicians on stage and in studios, but also =20
work with home audio systems.
I never used it with my home audio system.

(=46rom a BBE site). "The 462 is perfect for semi-pro applications not =20=

requiring balanced jacks. With true dual-mono operation, the 462 is =20
two independent SONIC MAXIMIZER=99
signal processors in one chassis."

NOTE: IF INTERESTED, PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST.  There is really no =20
reason for this to turn into some discussion thread about this item. =20
TIA!

Cheers,
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<div>I have one of these that I have not used for a long time now and =
need to free up some space in the studio.</div><div><br></div><div>$45 + =
shipping. &nbsp;(Cosmetically, the unit looks almost brand new. Unit is =
hardwired for power and thankfully does not require a wall =
wart.)</div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">For live and recording =
applications.&nbsp;&nbsp;Apparently, they were originally designed for =
musicians on stage and in studios, but also work with home audio =
systems.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I never used it with my home =
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margin-left: 0px; ">(=46rom a BBE site). <b>"The 462 is perfect for =
semi-pro applications not requiring balanced jacks.&nbsp;With true =
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MAXIMIZER=99</b></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">NOTE: IF INTERESTED, <u>PLEASE =
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CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY,
THE HONORABLE, GOVERNOR OF CBN.
TINUBU SQUARE, LAGOS- NIGERIA.
Date 4th OF AUGUST;2010
Official Web
Our Ref: CBN/OHG/OXD1/2009 Your
Ref:.................................
TELEX: CENBANK.
PAYMENT FILE: CBN/BEN/06.

PAYMENT NOTIFICATION OF YOUR FUNDS.

Definitely, I know that this letter will be a surprising one to you. Firstly, I will like to introduce myself formally as Mr.Sanusi Lamido, The Executive Governor of The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN). You are been officially contacted by me today because your Inheritance Funds were Re-deposited into the "Federal Suspense Account" of CBN last week, because you did not forward your Claim as the Right beneficiary. Well known to all. The Central Bank of Nigeria is the mother Bank of all commercial Banks here in Nigeria. Really these men were unexpected by me because their visit was impromptu. I had to ask them why they came to see me in person and they said that they were here to collect the Inheritance Bill Sum of (US$9.7Million) which rightfully belongs to you, on your behalf. At this development I asked them who authorized them to come down to Nigeria for the Collection of this Payment and they told me that you asked them to come and collect this Funds on your Behalf.  
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3. ORDER TO RELEASE.

Actually, these Documents which they tendered to this Noble Bank are a clear Proof that you sent them to Collect this Funds for you. Finally, I told them to come back tomorrow morning and they promised to come back. As the Governor of this Noble Bank, I was supposed to Release this Funds to them but I refused to do so because I wanted to hear from you first. Due to the Nature of my job, I will not want to make any mistake in Releasing this Funds to anyone except you whom is the Recognized Beneficiary to this Funds. Kindly clarify us on this issue before we make this Payment to these foreigners whom came on your behalf.

OFFICIALLY SIGNED.
MR.SANUSI LAMIDO.
GOVERNOR, CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA










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CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY,
THE HONORABLE, GOVERNOR OF CBN.
TINUBU SQUARE, LAGOS- NIGERIA.
Date 4th OF AUGUST;2010
Official Web
Our Ref: CBN/OHG/OXD1/2009 Your
Ref:.................................
TELEX: CENBANK.
PAYMENT FILE: CBN/BEN/06.

PAYMENT NOTIFICATION OF YOUR FUNDS.

Definitely, I know that this letter will be a surprising one to you. Firstly, I will like to introduce myself formally as Mr.Sanusi Lamido, The Executive Governor of The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN). You are been officially contacted by me today because your Inheritance Funds were Re-deposited into the "Federal Suspense Account" of CBN last week, because you did not forward your Claim as the Right beneficiary. Well known to all. The Central Bank of Nigeria is the mother Bank of all commercial Banks here in Nigeria. Really these men were unexpected by me because their visit was impromptu. I had to ask them why they came to see me in person and they said that they were here to collect the Inheritance Bill Sum of (US$9.7Million) which rightfully belongs to you, on your behalf. At this development I asked them who authorized them to come down to Nigeria for the Collection of this Payment and they told me that you asked them to come and collect this Funds on your Behalf.  
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1. LETTER OF ADMINISTRATION.
2. HIGH COURT INJUCTION.
3. ORDER TO RELEASE.

Actually, these Documents which they tendered to this Noble Bank are a clear Proof that you sent them to Collect this Funds for you. Finally, I told them to come back tomorrow morning and they promised to come back. As the Governor of this Noble Bank, I was supposed to Release this Funds to them but I refused to do so because I wanted to hear from you first. Due to the Nature of my job, I will not want to make any mistake in Releasing this Funds to anyone except you whom is the Recognized Beneficiary to this Funds. Kindly clarify us on this issue before we make this Payment to these foreigners whom came on your behalf.

OFFICIALLY SIGNED.
MR.SANUSI LAMIDO.
GOVERNOR, CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA










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Just posting this cos it blew me away.. no looping AFAIK, but i heard they
nto weird pedals like devi ever and Zvex... anyway.. everyone been talking
about them in Norway for ages, but Im just stupid not to have believed
them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0&feature=youtu.be



-- 
mark francombe
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Just posting this cos it blew me away.. no looping AFAIK, but i heard they =
nto weird pedals like devi ever and Zvex... anyway.. everyone been talking =
about them in Norway for ages, but Im just stupid not to have believed them=
...<br>

<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0&amp;feature=3Dy=
outu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0&amp;feature=3Dyoutu.b=
e</a><br><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http=
://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @ma=
rkfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/use=
r825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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Dear Beneficiary,

We are writing to let you know that one Mr Gumanti R. H. Sihombing MM from Jl. Sunggal 157, Kompleks Perumahan  BPKP, Medan, Indonesia came to our Office today to claim your fund  ($6.5Million) that is with our custody and said that you are dead, that he is your brother , you gave him Authority to claim your fund in case if you  die. We are writing to find if it is true that you are dead so that your fund will be released to him.
If we did not hear from you within three working days that means you are dead true and your fund will be release to him.

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GOOD DAY,

I am Barrister Mrs Liliana Guzman, a British citizen resident here in London. I am the principal attorney to Late Mr. FRANK  A citizen of your country. Who live here in London, he spent all his life here in London but died on an Air Crash on the 31 July 2007 on one of his visitation trip outside London. I personally contacted you on an urgent Propose business deal; I got your contact from the WORLD INFORMATION NETWORK ONLINE (WINO).

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Oh yeah, I like. Heavy.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:28 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> Just posting this cos it blew me away.. no looping AFAIK, but i heard they
> nto weird pedals like devi ever and Zvex... anyway.. everyone been talking
> about them in Norway for ages, but Im just stupid not to have believed
> them...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslyq8CcXu0&feature=youtu.be
>
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
>



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Oh yeah, I like. Heavy.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 5, 20=
10 at 7:28 AM, mark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: =
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Just posting this cos it blew me away.. no looping AFAIK, but i heard they =
nto weird pedals like devi ever and Zvex... anyway.. everyone been talking =
about them in Norway for ages, but Im just stupid not to have believed them=
...<br>


<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0&amp;feature=3Dy=
outu.be" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0&amp=
;feature=3Dyoutu.be</a><br><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><b=
r>-- <br>mark francombe<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancomb=
e.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com<=
/a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.lo=
oop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=
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I love it! Tuned to H indeed! hahaha thanks Mark!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mark francombe=20
  To: loopers-delight=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:28 AM
  Subject: shining


  Just posting this cos it blew me away.. no looping AFAIK, but i heard =
they nto weird pedals like devi ever and Zvex... anyway.. everyone been =
talking about them in Norway for ages, but Im just stupid not to have =
believed them...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQslyq8CcXu0&feature=3Dyoutu.be



  --=20
  mark francombe
  www.markfrancombe.com
  www.ordoabkhao.com
  twitter @markfrancombe
  http://vimeo.com/user825094
  http://www.looop.no

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Greetings:

   It is my pleasure contacting you now, as I have longed to get in touch with anybody who knew my late Client.I am Michael Briggs personal attorney to my late client, who died along with his wife and only son in an auto crash on the 17th of July, 2007 that occurred in Paris, France.
 
  My client had deposited about Four million United States dollars in a bank. Since then there had not been any trace of claim from any person as the fund remains dormant in his account with this bank. Although, I kept this information secret within my jurisdiction to enable me put claims and transfer the said amount through a trustworthy Partner whom I shall present to the bank as the next-of-kin to the deceased to my late client. Ever since I have been trying to locate the next of kin or any of the relatives to come forward and make this claim, but to no avail.
 
  Since you are from the same nationality AND bear the same surname with my late client and I have in my powers to present you as relative to my late client to enable you inherit the fund as his next of kin and only surviving relative and claim the funds. I am willing to process the needed documents to have you presented as next of kin to my late client so that you can become heir to the funds he deposited in the bank before his death.
 
 As soon as you become beneficiary to the funds, and the funds transferred to your account in your country, 50% will be yours for your assistance while the remaining 50% will be mine.
 
  If you interested in this offer please mail me as soon as possible. On receipt of your response to this mail I will give you more details.
 
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Hi Everybody,

SoftSteps are soon to be here. 

We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling 
the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In 
this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 
value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:

http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php

	* USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI Expander.
	* Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous Controllers, 
	* Program Changes, or OSC.
	* Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
	* Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and 
airline-friendly.
	* Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and 
it's beer-proof!"
	* Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
	* SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
Thanks,

Keith
Keith McMillen 
www.keithmcmillen.com 
www.beamfoundation.org 
"Music For A New Reason"


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 class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php">http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php</a></span><br></span></font></div><div><ul><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
 medium;">USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI Expander.</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous Controllers,&nbsp;</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Program Changes, or OSC.</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and airline-friendly.</span></font></li><li><font
 class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and it's&nbsp;</span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">beer-proof!"</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.</span></font></li><li><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.</span></font></li></ul><meta charset="utf-8"></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
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Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long
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You will also hear the latest releases from the Groove Unlimited
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Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
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hi keith,

what about overseas delivering?

thanks!
ra=FCl.

2010/8/6 keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com>:
> Hi Everybody,
> SoftSteps are soon to be here.
> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be
> selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive =
in
> stores. In this introductory offer, we are also including a free
> Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>
> USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI Expand=
er.
> Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous Controllers=
,
> Program Changes, or OSC.
> Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
> Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
> airline-friendly.
> Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and
> it's=A0beer-proof!"
> Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
> SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
> Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
>



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com  Fri Aug  6 06:21:30 2010
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Hello Keith

Whats the ETA on the MIDI Expander module? Relative to the SoftStep ship
date, that is...

Thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
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> Hi Everybody,
>
> SoftSteps are soon to be here.
>
> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be
selling
> the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in
stores. In
> this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a
$34.95
> value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
>
> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>
> * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
Expander.
> * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
Controllers,
> * Program Changes, or OSC.
> * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
> * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
> airline-friendly.
> * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and
> it's beer-proof!"
> * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
> * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
> Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
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> >

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Are there any Looperlative users on LD? How does it compare to the EDP  
as far as ease of use goes? Some of the stuff I would like to do would  
involve both guitar and mic (for vocals/rhythm/sound fx etc.)...

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FROM THE DESK OF: ENGR.TUNDE LAWAL
NIGERIAN NATIONAL PETROLEUM CORPORATION (NNPC), 
FINANCE APPRAISAL COMMITTEE, CONTRACT DEPARTMENT, 
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS,ABUJA - NIGERIA. 


My name is Engr. Tunde Lawal . My terms of reference involves the financial management and disbursement of proceeds from sale of petroleum products, award of contracts to multinational companies, screening and categorization of projects embarked upon by this ministry, feasibility study for selected projects and supervising the project consultants involved. 
A breakdown of the fiscal expenditure by this office as at the end of the Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year of 2009 indicates that this Ministry paid out a whooping sum of US$2.8Billion (Two Billion, Eight Hundred Million US Dollars) to successful contract beneficiaries. The Ministry is now compiling beneficiaries to be paid in this third quarter of 2010. The crux of this letter is that the Finance Appraisal Committee/Contract Department of this Ministry deliberately over-inflated the contract value of various contracts awarded to the tune of US$40.5m (Forty Million, Five Hundred Thousand US Dollars) 
This money is now lying and floating in the ministry's domiciliary account with the Apex Bank, Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN). My colleagues and I now want to quickly transfer these funds to a safe nominated account for possible investment abroad. We are not allowed as a matter of Government policy to operate any foreign account because of our status as Civil/Public servants hence the need to solicit for your assistance to be a silent foreign partner whose identity we can use to transfer the sum of $40,500,000,00 (Forty Million, Five Hundred Thousand U.S. dollars) 
Please there is great need to this transaction secret and confidential to avoid scandals now and in future even after we must have received and shared the money. 
A sharing formular of 30% of the total amount for the foreign partner and 70% for myself and colleagues have also been evolved. 
Furthermore, we shall be relying on your advice as regards investments of part of our share in your country. Be informed that this business is genuine and 100% safe considering the high-powered government functionaries involved. To conclude this transfer successfully, we shall require your full name and address,Telephone and Fax numbers, Marital Status, Occupation and a copy of your valid Identification. We have ten(10) working days to conclude this deal on Commencement, and I shall join you at the account base for sharing and further discussion on my investment plan in your country. 
NOTE: Upon receiving your full detailed information, I will direct you to a Lawyer (Attorney) who will handle this transaction on your behalf successfully.Looking forward to a healthy business relationship with you. 
Yours Sincerely, 
ENGR.TUNDE LAWAL. 
DIRECTOR,FINANCE APPRAISAL COMMITTEE, 
CONTRACT DEPT.,NNPC. 

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hi Phil,
it really depends what you want to do.

(for instance, LP1 is the best ever for ambient, the EDP
 for slice'n'dice)

Depends on what you're used to using.
(LP1's most basic functions are taken from the DL4)

For multi-layer arrangements LP1 is easier.
(possible on EDP in an interesting enough way if you
 think about moving from loop to loop, but limited)

For ABC section type playing EDP is easier.
(can be set up on the LP1)

If you want to exploit the full versatility of the LP1
then you'll need to think very carefully about how you 
program it...but you can do a lot.

With the EDP, the way to reach all the functions is already
thought about by the designer, again you can do a lot.


The EDP doesn't have midi learn, the LP1 doesn't have anything else.
(both approaches have advantages, to start with midi-learn is 
 easier but with a sophisticated midi controller it can become a drag).


If Undo is something you find helps with "ease of use" then
the EDP scores higher.

If adjusting the levels of tracks after recording them is something
you need then LP1 is the choice.


I'm lucky enough to have both devices in my rig at the moment, 
although I've only scratched the surface of the LP1.


Neither has a mic input, or mixing on the inputs.
(LP1 lacks input volume control)
..so you want something as a mixer.


andy

Phil wrote:
> Are there any Looperlative users on LD? How does it compare to the EDP 
> as far as ease of use goes? Some of the stuff I would like to do would 
> involve both guitar and mic (for vocals/rhythm/sound fx etc.)...
> 
> 

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Great news,
a lot of folks been waiting for this.

What's the latency/jitter on the production model 
for sending a note-On?
(essential for loopers)


Oh...and what about the price!

andy butler

ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
   (they have a screensaver ;-)
     


keith mcmillen wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
> 
> SoftSteps are soon to be here. 
> 
> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be 
> selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive 
> in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also including a free 
> Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
> 
> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
> 
>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>       Expander.
>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>       Controllers, 
>     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>       airline-friendly.
>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Keith
> 
> Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
> "Music For A New Reason"
> 
> 

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100805.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #696                August 5, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on computerchemist.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was atmospheric by computerchemist on
terrainflight Records.

computerchemist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Gert Emmens          Part 15              The Nearest Far Away Place
                                            Volume 3 (Groove)
VA [Der Spyra]       Sucrology            E-Live 2009 (Groove)
VA [Robert Rich]     Moth Wings           Dark Room - Beats (Aleph Zero)
VA [Vataff Project]  Owl                  Dark Room - Beats (Aleph Zero)
Radio Massacre       first set            Lost In Transit 5 (Northern
  International                             Echo)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
computerchemist      marshfire            atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      atmospheric          atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      domino's lament      atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      flight of 'f'        atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      tribalibal           atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      french game idea     atmospheric (terrainflight)
computerchemist      shrazad              atmospheric (terrainflight)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
computerchemist.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "icon one" on
terrainflight Records.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in
Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info
MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels
Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829
RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml
Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/podcasts.html
Listen to WDIY at http://wdiy.org/listen on-line.
To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
> (essential for loopers)
>
>
> Oh...and what about the price!


YEah, I kinda needed to know the price too... and one thing (will read up
when I have time) I notices a frightening sentance..

*"Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes"*

Whats that... SIX UNIQUE NOTES?? Midi notes?   Dont we need more midi notes
to control EDP..? Or .. wait.. I guess EDP can use PC too?? or is it CC... I
forget.. I use notes...

Anyone?? Anyone? Buhler? Andy??

Mark

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I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I =
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thanks,

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I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind of =
problems are you having?


From: Jeff Duke=20
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I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I =
only use a computer for recording/post production and for =
Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop =
machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram =
although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 gigs.

Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also =
anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?

thanks,

Jeff


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Hello,
Can you ship to France? How much will it cost with stand alone midi expansion and shipping?
Antony

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On 2010-08-06, at 01:44, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Everybody,

SoftSteps are soon to be here. 

We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:

http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI Expander.
Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous Controllers, 
Program Changes, or OSC.
Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and airline-friendly.
Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
Thanks,

Keith

Keith McMillen 
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www.beamfoundation.org 
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hello,</div><div>Can you ship to France? How much will it cost with stand alone midi expansion and shipping?</div><div>Antony<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 2010-08-06, at 01:44, keith mcmillen &lt;<a href="mailto:keefer07@yahoo.com">keefer07@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;">Hi Everybody,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
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There was a recent thread on the list (yeah, a better response here =
would have a link to it) discussing the difference in ways of working =
with and programming the devices and by implication the associated =
thought patterns.

The Looperlative's programming and operation model is largely based =
around sending it commands or strings of commands (double the length of =
the loop, switch to the next loop, etc). The EDP is based around being =
in particular modes (now I'm overdubbing, now I'm multiplying, now I'm =
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The hardware specs of the Looperlative -- stereo, higher sample rate, =
multiple tracks -- are far better than those of the EDP.

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No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about =
it. You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?=20

j
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Stephen Goodman=20
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  Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36 AM
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  I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind =
of problems are you having?


  From: Jeff Duke=20
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  I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I =
only use a computer for recording/post production and for =
Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop =
machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram =
although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 gigs.

  Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also =
anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?

  thanks,

  Jeff


  http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I&nbsp;am thinking of moving to =
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Any particular reason to update?  I  have Win7 on my work PC and I've had a
few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.  But, I'm not doing DAW
work, just programming.  I'd check carefully for drivers for your hardware.
Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.

I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I'm hesitant to put it on my DAW.
Just because that system works just fine.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>  No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about
> it. You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?
>
> j
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 issues/
>
> I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind of
> problems are you having?
>
>  *From:* Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* Windows 7 issues/
>
> I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I only
> use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream uses.
> I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD
> Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25
> gigs.
>
> Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also
> anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?
>
> thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
> http://usit.bandcamp.com/
> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/
>
>


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Any particular reason to update?=A0 I=A0 have Win7 on my work PC and I&#39;=
ve had a few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.=A0 But, I&#39;m =
not doing DAW work, just programming.=A0 I&#39;d check carefully for driver=
s for your hardware.=A0 Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it =
says.<br>
<br>I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I&#39;m hesitant to put it on my=
 DAW.=A0 Just because that system works just fine.<br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





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bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">No problems because I haven&#39;t put =
it on yet. Just=20
in the thinking about it. You had some issues in the beginning didn&#39;t y=
ou?=20
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888=
">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">j</font></div>
</font><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5=
px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-right: 0p=
x;"><div class=3D"im">
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); fo=
nt: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"spgoodman@earthlight.net" href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight=
.net" target=3D"_blank">Stephen Goodman</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
  </div>
  </div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;">=
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Windows 7 issues/</d=
iv>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Calibri">I&#39;ve been much happier with the 64-bit Wi=
ndows 7=20
  actually.=A0 What kind of problems are you having?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt Tahoma;">
  <div><br></div>
  <div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245, 245, 245);">
  <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"jeff_d@embarqmail.com" href=3D"mailto:jeff_=
d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Jeff Duke</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM</div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"=
mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delig=
ht@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
  </div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> Windows 7 issues/</div></div></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I=A0am thinking of moving to Windows=
 7 (64=20
  bit?) from my faithful XP. I only use a computer for recording/post produ=
ction=20
  and for Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a de=
sktop=20
  machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although=
 XP=20
  32 bit only &quot;sees&quot; 3.25 gigs.</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are there still issues with drivers =
etc. Anything=20
  to worry about? Also anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">thanks,</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Jeff</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.=
com/" target=3D"_blank">http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke" target=3D"_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive" target=3D"_blank">http://liv=
estream.com/jeffdukelive</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinph=
asespace" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://usit.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://usit.bandca=
mp.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://digit=
signal.bandcamp.com/</a><br></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>To=
ny<br>

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Jeff my son is running it on a machine we built from New Egg, Dual Core, 8
gig ram, 64 bit.  We built it as a gaming PC which is his main use.  I thin=
k
you know this already but mentioning for now the only sound issue that I
know about in his experience was that and this is more consumer that you'll
probably bypass with more sophisticated audio hw but they have utilized
program specific sound schemes and made it less easy at least when I have
dealt with it, to get to things like the recording input.  For instance whe=
n
I was setting up a mic system for him early on it took me a while to find
what used to be mixer, properties, recording and select input.  Too though =
I
was new to Win7 and still am as I use XP at work and Mac at home.  Short
though at least for gaming he loves it and the 64 bit accessing more memory
is a great improvement.  He uses between 3 and 4 of his 8 gig which the 8
are overkill but if he ever gets to video editing it will help.

Jim
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.com

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any particular reason to update?  I  have Win7 on my work PC and I've had=
 a
> few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.  But, I'm not doing DAW
> work, just programming.  I'd check carefully for drivers for your hardwar=
e.
> Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.
>
> I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I'm hesitant to put it on my DAW.
> Just because that system works just fine.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about
>> it. You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?
>>
>> j
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 issues/
>>
>> I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind of
>> problems are you having?
>>
>>  *From:* Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM
>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> *Subject:* Windows 7 issues/
>>
>> I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I on=
ly
>> use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream u=
ses.
>> I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD
>> Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3=
.25
>> gigs.
>>
>> Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also
>> anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
>> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
>> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
>> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
>> http://usit.bandcamp.com/
>> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Tony
>



--=20
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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Jeff my son is running it on a machine we built from New Egg, Dual Core, 8 =
gig ram, 64 bit.=A0 We built it as a gaming PC which is his main use.=A0 I =
think you know this already but mentioning for now the only sound issue tha=
t I know about in his experience was that and this is more consumer that yo=
u&#39;ll probably bypass with more sophisticated audio hw but they have uti=
lized program specific sound schemes and made it less easy at least when I =
have dealt with it, to get to things like the recording input.=A0 For insta=
nce when I was setting up a mic system for him early on it took me a while =
to find what used to be mixer, properties, recording and select input.=A0 T=
oo though I was new to Win7 and still am as I use XP at work and Mac at hom=
e.=A0 Short though at least for gaming he loves it and the 64 bit accessing=
 more memory is a great improvement.=A0 He uses between 3 and 4 of his 8 gi=
g which the 8 are overkill but if he ever gets to video editing it will hel=
p.<br>
<br>Jim<br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com">woodandwiremus=
ic.wordpress.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.=
com">whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.com</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Tony K <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:bigtonyk@gmail.com">bigtonyk@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left=
: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Any particular reason to update?=A0 I=A0 have Win7 on my work PC and I&#39;=
ve had a few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.=A0 But, I&#39;m =
not doing DAW work, just programming.=A0 I&#39;d check carefully for driver=
s for your hardware.=A0 Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it =
says.<br>

<br>I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I&#39;m hesitant to put it on my=
 DAW.=A0 Just because that system works just fine.<div><div></div><div clas=
s=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM=
, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





<div style=3D"padding-right: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-top: 15px;" =
bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">No problems because I haven&#39;t put =
it on yet. Just=20
in the thinking about it. You had some issues in the beginning didn&#39;t y=
ou?=20
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888=
">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">j</font></div>
</font><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5=
px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-right: 0p=
x;"><div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); fo=
nt: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"spgoodman@earthlight.net" href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight=
.net" target=3D"_blank">Stephen Goodman</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
  </div>
  </div><div><div></div><div><div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Windows 7 issues/</d=
iv>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Calibri">I&#39;ve been much happier with the 64-bit Wi=
ndows 7=20
  actually.=A0 What kind of problems are you having?</font></div>
  <div style=3D"font: 10pt Tahoma;">
  <div><br></div>
  <div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245, 245, 245);">
  <div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"jeff_d@embarqmail.com" href=3D"mailto:jeff_=
d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Jeff Duke</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM</div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"=
mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delig=
ht@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
  </div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> Windows 7 issues/</div></div></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">I=A0am thinking of moving to Windows=
 7 (64=20
  bit?) from my faithful XP. I only use a computer for recording/post produ=
ction=20
  and for Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a de=
sktop=20
  machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although=
 XP=20
  32 bit only &quot;sees&quot; 3.25 gigs.</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Are there still issues with drivers =
etc. Anything=20
  to worry about? Also anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">thanks,</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Jeff</font></div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
  <div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><a href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.=
com/" target=3D"_blank">http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke" target=3D"_blank">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke=
</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive" target=3D"_blank">http://liv=
estream.com/jeffdukelive</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinph=
asespace" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://usit.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://usit.bandca=
mp.com/</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://digit=
signal.bandcamp.com/</a><br></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D=
-=3D- <br><font color=3D"#888888">Tony<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>From Brooklyn To=
 Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6r=
n.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=
=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</=
a><br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com">woodandwiremusic.wo=
rdpress.com</a><br>


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Hi Jeff,
This recent article on CDM might be of interest to you.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/08/04/the-most-out-of-windows-7-choosing=
-and-optimizing-windows-for-music/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Dfee=
d&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&ut=
m_content=3DGoogle+Reader

Sylvain

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> Jeff my son is running it on a machine we built from New Egg, Dual Core, =
8
> gig ram, 64 bit.=A0 We built it as a gaming PC which is his main use.=A0 =
I think
> you know this already but mentioning for now the only sound issue that I
> know about in his experience was that and this is more consumer that you'=
ll
> probably bypass with more sophisticated audio hw but they have utilized
> program specific sound schemes and made it less easy at least when I have
> dealt with it, to get to things like the recording input.=A0 For instance=
 when
> I was setting up a mic system for him early on it took me a while to find
> what used to be mixer, properties, recording and select input.=A0 Too tho=
ugh I
> was new to Win7 and still am as I use XP at work and Mac at home.=A0 Shor=
t
> though at least for gaming he loves it and the 64 bit accessing more memo=
ry
> is a great improvement.=A0 He uses between 3 and 4 of his 8 gig which the=
 8
> are overkill but if he ever gets to video editing it will help.
>
> Jim
> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
> whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.com
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any particular reason to update?=A0 I=A0 have Win7 on my work PC and I'v=
e had
>> a few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.=A0 But, I'm not doin=
g DAW
>> work, just programming.=A0 I'd check carefully for drivers for your hard=
ware.
>> Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.
>>
>> I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I'm hesitant to put it on my DAW.
>> Just because that system works just fine.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote=
:
>>>
>>> No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about
>>> it. You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Stephen Goodman
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/
>>> I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.=A0 What kind=
 of
>>> problems are you having?
>>> From: Jeff Duke
>>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Subject: Windows 7 issues/
>>> I=A0am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I
>>> only use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livest=
ream
>>> uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently=
 a
>>> AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "se=
es"
>>> 3.25 gigs.
>>>
>>> Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also
>>> anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
>>> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
>>> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
>>> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
>>> http://usit.bandcamp.com/
>>> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
>> Tony
>
>
>
> --
> From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin =
&
> Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds
> from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
>
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
>

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Jeff Duke schrieb:
> I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I 
> only use a computer for recording/post production and for 
> Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop 
> machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram 
> although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 gigs.
My new (as of early this year) notebook came with Windows 7 Professional 
64bit pre-installed. This is now my #1 music performance computer.
As for drivers:
Devices which are still supported usually already supply Windows 7 
drivers, and with Windows 7 (contrary to XP), every device I saw offers 
both 32 and 64 bit drivers - so that old XP problem of having to check 
for availability of 64bit drivers seems to be a thing of the past. 
However, if you're using a discontinued interface from a manufacturer 
who doesn't do good support, checking beforehand might be a good idea. 
(Obviously, this is also true for any other hardware device - racing 
wheels or whatever you're also using).

My experiences so far have been good w/ Windows 7 - but then, I haven't 
yet put it under real stress. My recording session for "A tätowierte 
Katz'", however (http://bit.ly/d0PHAu) had me recording 17 tracks of 
audio, running The Grand 3 and getting 0.5ms latency using RME HDSP 
hardware under Windows 7 - if that is any indication of "quality"...

       Rainer

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ive been thinking about the same thing=2C thanks for asking first jeff =3Bo=
)

btw=2C is anyone running mobius on win7 or is it not compatible?






The Wandering Madman=20




> Date: Fri=2C 6 Aug 2010 11:55:48 -0400
> Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/
> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=20
> Hi Jeff=2C
> This recent article on CDM might be of interest to you.
>=20
> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/08/04/the-most-out-of-windows-7-choosi=
ng-and-optimizing-windows-for-music/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&utm_medium=3Df=
eed&utm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&=
utm_content=3DGoogle+Reader
>=20
> Sylvain
>=20
> On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:52 AM=2C Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
> > Jeff my son is running it on a machine we built from New Egg=2C Dual Co=
re=2C 8
> > gig ram=2C 64 bit.  We built it as a gaming PC which is his main use.  =
I think
> > you know this already but mentioning for now the only sound issue that =
I
> > know about in his experience was that and this is more consumer that yo=
u'll
> > probably bypass with more sophisticated audio hw but they have utilized
> > program specific sound schemes and made it less easy at least when I ha=
ve
> > dealt with it=2C to get to things like the recording input.  For instan=
ce when
> > I was setting up a mic system for him early on it took me a while to fi=
nd
> > what used to be mixer=2C properties=2C recording and select input.  Too=
 though I
> > was new to Win7 and still am as I use XP at work and Mac at home.  Shor=
t
> > though at least for gaming he loves it and the 64 bit accessing more me=
mory
> > is a great improvement.  He uses between 3 and 4 of his 8 gig which the=
 8
> > are overkill but if he ever gets to video editing it will help.
> >
> > Jim
> > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
> > whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpress.com
> >
> > On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:36 AM=2C Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> >>
> >> Any particular reason to update?  I  have Win7 on my work PC and I've =
had
> >> a few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.  But=2C I'm not do=
ing DAW
> >> work=2C just programming.  I'd check carefully for drivers for your ha=
rdware.
> >> Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.
> >>
> >> I really like Win7 for my dev box=2C but I'm hesitant to put it on my =
DAW.
> >> Just because that system works just fine.
> >>
> >> On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:28 AM=2C Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.co=
m> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking abo=
ut
> >>> it. You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?
> >>>
> >>> j
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Stephen Goodman
> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>> Sent: Friday=2C August 06=2C 2010 10:36 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/
> >>> I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind=
 of
> >>> problems are you having?
> >>> From: Jeff Duke
> >>> Sent: Friday=2C August 06=2C 2010 3:06 PM
> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>> Subject: Windows 7 issues/
> >>> I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I
> >>> only use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Live=
stream
> >>> uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Current=
ly a
> >>> AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "=
sees"
> >>> 3.25 gigs.
> >>>
> >>> Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Als=
o
> >>> anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?
> >>>
> >>> thanks=2C
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
> >>> http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
> >>> http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
> >>> http://usit.bandcamp.com/
> >>> http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> >> Tony
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From Brooklyn To Glindran=2C a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goo=
din &
> > Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
> > from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
> > jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.
> >
> > www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> > woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com
> >
>=20
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<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/TheWanderingMadman" target=3D"_blank">The=
 Wandering Madman </a>
<br><br><br><br>&gt=3B Date: Fri=2C 6 Aug 2010 11:55:48 -0400<br>&gt=3B Sub=
ject: Re: Windows 7 issues/<br>&gt=3B From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com<br>&=
gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Hi Jeff=
=2C<br>&gt=3B This recent article on CDM might be of interest to you.<br>&g=
t=3B <br>&gt=3B http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/08/04/the-most-out-of-wi=
ndows-7-choosing-and-optimizing-windows-for-music/?utm_source=3Dfeedburner&=
amp=3Butm_medium=3Dfeed&amp=3Butm_campaign=3DFeed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28=
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gt=3B Sylvain<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:52 AM=2C J=
im Goodin &lt=3Bjimgoodinmusic@gmail.com&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Jeff=
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br>&gt=3B &gt=3B gig ram=2C 64 bit.&nbsp=3B We built it as a gaming PC whic=
h is his main use.&nbsp=3B I think<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B you know this already b=
ut mentioning for now the only sound issue that I<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B know abo=
ut in his experience was that and this is more consumer that you'll<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B probably bypass with more sophisticated audio hw but they have u=
tilized<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B program specific sound schemes and made it less ea=
sy at least when I have<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B dealt with it=2C to get to things =
like the recording input.&nbsp=3B For instance when<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B I was =
setting up a mic system for him early on it took me a while to find<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B what used to be mixer=2C properties=2C recording and select inpu=
t.&nbsp=3B Too though I<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B was new to Win7 and still am as I =
use XP at work and Mac at home.&nbsp=3B Short<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B though at le=
ast for gaming he loves it and the 64 bit accessing more memory<br>&gt=3B &=
gt=3B is a great improvement.&nbsp=3B He uses between 3 and 4 of his 8 gig =
which the 8<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B are overkill but if he ever gets to video edit=
ing it will help.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B Jim<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B wo=
odandwiremusic.wordpress.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B whatsnewatimprovfriday.wordpr=
ess.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:36 =
AM=2C Tony K &lt=3Bbigtonyk@gmail.com&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<b=
r>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Any particular reason to update?&nbsp=3B I&nbsp=3B ha=
ve Win7 on my work PC and I've had<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B a few oddball iss=
ues with the video and sound chip.&nbsp=3B But=2C I'm not doing DAW<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B work=2C just programming.&nbsp=3B I'd check carefully for =
drivers for your hardware.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Run the MS Win7 update ch=
ecker app and see what it says.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B I really like Win7 for my dev box=2C but I'm hesitant to put it on my D=
AW.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B Just because that system works just fine.<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B On Fri=2C Aug 6=2C 2010 at 11:28 AM=
=2C Jeff Duke &lt=3Bjeff_d@embarqmail.com&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B No problems because I haven't put it=
 on yet. Just in the thinking about<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B it. You ha=
d some issues in the beginning didn't you?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>=
&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B j<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&g=
t=3B&gt=3B ----- Original Message -----<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B From: =
Stephen Goodman<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-de=
light.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B Sent: Friday=2C August 06=2C 2010 10=
:36 AM<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 act=
ually.&nbsp=3B What kind of<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B problems are you h=
aving?<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B From: Jeff Duke<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&=
gt=3B Sent: Friday=2C August 06=2C 2010 3:06 PM<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=
=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B Su=
bject: Windows 7 issues/<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B I&nbsp=3Bam thinking =
of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=
=3B&gt=3B only use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/=
Livestream<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B uses. I am not looping with it and =
this is a desktop machine. Currently a<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B AMD Ath=
lon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees"<br>&gt=
=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B 3.25 gigs.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B &g=
t=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry=
 about? Also<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B&gt=3B anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?<br>=
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thanks for all the replies to everyone, I have bookmarked that link Sylvain 
and will do some more research. Looking at some of my apps there are some 
that would need to be upgraded for 64 bit and some that claim to be ready to 
rock, :) I do use many freeware and cheapo type apps/plugins, etc. They have 
been good enough for me as a home hobbiest looping guy.

XP works fine for me and I haven't been in a hurry to upgrade. I do feel 
that it is inevitable at some point though.

best,

J

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Hi Jeff,
This recent article on CDM might be of interest to you.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2010/08/04/the-most-out-of-windows-7-choosing-and-optimizing-windows-for-music/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+createdigitalmusic+%28createdigitalmusic.com%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Sylvain


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Reminder Jeff and music duo partner Gaetano Fontanazza are performing live
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*IF Live Concert Series*
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Thanks Jim, also just to make it easier for those outside the US here is =
a fixed world clock page for local times: http://fwd4.me/Fso

Also I will mention that this is a virtual show with Gaetano in Italy =
and me here in Florida. Audio via Ninjam and video feeds via Zorap all =
blended and presented on Livestream.=20

Looping will be in major use!!

Thanks,

J
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Reminder Jeff and music duo partner Gaetano Fontanazza are performing =
live this afternoon/early evening in a video webcast hosted by =
ImprovFriday.  To watch, go to improvfriday.ning.com at times below.

  IF Live Concert Series
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glad to, will be cool Jeff, I'll watch from work...

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Jim, also just to make it easier for those outside the US here is
> a fixed world clock page for local times: http://fwd4.me/Fso
>
> Also I will mention that this is a virtual show with Gaetano in Italy and
> me here in Florida. Audio via Ninjam and video feeds via Zorap all blende=
d
> and presented on Livestream.
>
> Looping will be in major use!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> J
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 06, 2010 1:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 7 issues/
>
> Reminder Jeff and music duo partner Gaetano Fontanazza are performing liv=
e
> this afternoon/early evening in a video webcast hosted by ImprovFriday.  =
To
> watch, go to improvfriday.ning.com at times below.
>
> *IF Live Concert Series*
> All Concerts Times are IF Time
> *August 6, 2010
> Gaetano Fontanazza, Jeff Duke (3 PM IF Time, 6 PM EST)*
>
>
>


--=20
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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glad to, will be cool Jeff, I&#39;ll watch from work...<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Thanks Jim, also just to make it easie=
r for those=20
outside the US here is a fixed world clock page for <font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman" size=3D"3">local times: </font><a href=3D"http://fwd4.me/Fso" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D"3">h=
ttp://fwd4.me/Fso</font></a></font></div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Also I will mention that this is a vir=
tual show=20
with Gaetano in Italy and me here in Florida. Audio via Ninjam and video fe=
eds=20
via Zorap all blended and presented on Livestream. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Looping will be in major use!!</font><=
/div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Thanks,</font></div>
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get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>=20
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=20
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<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
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Creative Digital Music has an extensive discussion about this within the la=
st few days.

Hal Dean

From: Tony K [mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:37 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/

Any particular reason to update?  I  have Win7 on my work PC and I've had a=
 few oddball issues with the video and sound chip.  But, I'm not doing DAW =
work, just programming.  I'd check carefully for drivers for your hardware.=
  Run the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.

I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I'm hesitant to put it on my DAW.  J=
ust because that system works just fine.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com<mailto:je=
ff_d@embarqmail.com>> wrote:
No problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about it.=
 You had some issues in the beginning didn't you?

j
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Goodman<mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
ght.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Windows 7 issues/

I've been much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.  What kind of pr=
oblems are you having?

From: Jeff Duke<mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli=
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Subject: Windows 7 issues/

I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I only =
use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream uses=
. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD A=
thlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 =
gigs.

Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also anyt=
hing on 32 bit vs 64 bit?

thanks,

Jeff


http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://usit.bandcamp.com/
http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/



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<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Windows 7 issues/<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Any particular reason t=
o
update?&nbsp; I&nbsp; have Win7 on my work PC and I've had a few oddball is=
sues
with the video and sound chip.&nbsp; But, I'm not doing DAW work, just
programming.&nbsp; I'd check carefully for drivers for your hardware.&nbsp;=
 Run
the MS Win7 update checker app and see what it says.<br>
<br>
I really like Win7 for my dev box, but I'm hesitant to put it on my DAW.&nb=
sp;
Just because that system works just fine.<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
o:p></o:p></p>

<div name=3D"Compose message area">

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>No
problems because I haven't put it on yet. Just in the thinking about it. Yo=
u
had some issues in the beginning didn't you? </span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";
color:#888888'>j</span><span style=3D'color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in =
0in 0in 4.0pt;
margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

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<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.n=
et"
target=3D"_blank" title=3D"spgoodman@earthlight.net">Stephen Goodman</a> <o=
:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
,"sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank"
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
,"sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Friday, August=
 06,
2010 10:36 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
,"sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: Windows 7
issues/<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I'v=
e been
much happier with the 64-bit Windows 7 actually.&nbsp; What kind of problem=
s
are you having?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","=
sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span style=3D'font=
-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank"
title=3D"jeff_d@embarqmail.com">Jeff Duke</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span style=3D'font=
-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Friday, Augus=
t 06,
2010 3:06 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span style=3D'font=
-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style=3D'font=
-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank"
title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span style=3D'font=
-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Windows 7 iss=
ues/<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>I&nbsp;am
thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I only use a
computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am=
 not
looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 =
dual
core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only &quot;sees&quot; 3.25 gigs.<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>Are
there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also anything=
 on
32 bit vs 64 bit?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'>Jeff</span><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif"'><a
href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://jeffduke.ba=
ndcamp.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke" target=3D"_blank">http://www.vime=
o.com/jeffduke</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive" target=3D"_blank">http://liv=
estream.com/jeffdukelive</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace" target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://usit.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://usit.bandcam=
p.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://digitsignal.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://digit=
signal.bandcamp.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
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Tony<o:p></o:p></p>

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WOuld love one too Rick!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:13 AM
To: andy butler
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Subject: Re: Re: Great Quote about Looping by Brian Eno

I can burn you one when this festival is finally over!   It's long out 
of print.

andy butler wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Rick 
> Walker wrote:
>
>> a group with amazing musicians called Worlds Collide (
>
>> I'm very, very proud of that record.  We all really worked hard on it 
>> and it came out beautifully.
>>
>
> where can I get a copy?
>
> andy
> </div>

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mark francombe wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk 
> <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
>     (essential for loopers)
> 
> 
>     Oh...and what about the price!
> 
> 
> YEah, I kinda needed to know the price too... and one thing (will read 
> up when I have time) I notices a frightening sentance..
> 
> *"Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes"*
> 
> Whats that... SIX UNIQUE NOTES?? Midi notes?   Dont we need more midi 
> notes to control EDP..? Or .. wait.. I guess EDP can use PC too?? or is 
> it CC... I forget.. I use notes...
> 
> Anyone?? Anyone? Buhler? Andy??

ok, but this is the *last* time

for loop functions the EDP uses either Note-On
OR CC, never both.
The CC needs to be accompanied by a matching cc with value 0
as an equivalent to Note-Off.

Program Change commands are used to select EDP presets.


I'd guess that it's six notes *per Key*.


andy buhler

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Mark Hamburg wrote:
 
> The hardware specs of the Looperlative -- stereo, higher sample rate, multiple tracks -- are far better than those of the EDP.

I have both set up for exact AB comparison, and while the LP1 has lower noise 
I couldn't say that otherwise the sound quality was better than the edp.
So the higher sample rate doesn't seem to bring an advantage,
(at least not to my ears which give up after 16kHz or so).

;-) I can confirm the 8 stereo tracks.


andy

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J
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> andy buhler

ROFL

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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:17 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> "Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes"


Yeah, reading that gave me the creeps too! Let's hope it means "six
instantly available note numbers in one bank".

Greetings from Sweden

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Wow, Andy,  I love the EDP,  but, to my ears, there is a distinct 
difference in audio quality between my EDPs and my LP1.
The LP1 is a lot crisper.   I actually like the sound of the EDP.  It 
has a 'warm' quality but hi fidelity is not one of
it's top suits if you ask me.    The 'warmth'  is akin to the warmth 
ascribed to the EMU SP 1200 drum machine.
Lower fidelity but a very pleasing sound, musically speaking.

I'm curious what other multiple users think about this topic.

These are my thoughts having used both a lot in my looping:

Also,  though there are a lot of Line 6 DL4 similar functions in the LP1 
as you mentioned,  there are also a lot of EDP styled functions
in the machine (bouncing, replace, Q replace, multiply, etc.)  and a few 
proprietary functions that make it different from both the DL4 and the 
EDP  (notably Scramble, Pitch manipulation - Mellotron simulation with 
several on the way) so
for my money,  the LP1 is a lot more versatile and 8 stereo tracks with 
the ability to sync or not sync individual tracks is a huge plus.

Progamming the LP1 is also vastly simpler than the EDP (merely because 
you do not have to get deep into learning each individual Midi footpedal
programming but , instead use a midi learn function that is quite simple 
on the LP1) from my experience.

Their architecture is so different...........one, a mono looper than has 
multiple loops that can only be played sequentially but with a 
tremendous amount
of very, very clever programming that allows for manipulation of the 
loops.....the other,  a stereo looper (that purposefully eschewed the 
kind of
linear architecture of the EDP specifically because there were multiple 
loops that one can navigate to or play simultaneously)
that they really are different instruments.

I agree with what Andy said earlier about being clear about what kind of 
looping you envision yourself doing.
Maybe you can post that and we can all give you a better specific 
recommendation about which one would be best for your
specific use.



andy butler wrote:
>
> I have both set up for exact AB comparison, and while the LP1 has 
> lower noise I couldn't say that otherwise the sound quality was better 
> than the edp.
> So the higher sample rate doesn't seem to bring an advantage,
> (at least not to my ears which give up after 16kHz or so).
>

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Thanks for all the info.

I was able to locate a few similar threads going back a to a couple of  
years ago. In one of those threads, Bob said that he thought the best  
thing to do was to buy as many loopers as you can afford and start  
playing with them.

I like that advice ;-)

I want to do--more song oriented than new agey soundscapey stuff...

so songs with two or three distinct parts where I would have to mute a  
few tracks and go into a chorus and then resurrect those tracks when I  
go back to the verse or a bridge...

I'm thinking of using a drum machine or sampled drum loops for some  
stuff.

Philip

On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Wow, Andy,  I love the EDP,  but, to my ears, there is a distinct  
> difference in audio quality between my EDPs and my LP1.
> The LP1 is a lot crisper.   I actually like the sound of the EDP.   
> It has a 'warm' quality but hi fidelity is not one of
> it's top suits if you ask me.    The 'warmth'  is akin to the warmth  
> ascribed to the EMU SP 1200 drum machine.
> Lower fidelity but a very pleasing sound, musically speaking.
>
> I'm curious what other multiple users think about this topic.
>
> These are my thoughts having used both a lot in my looping:
>
> Also,  though there are a lot of Line 6 DL4 similar functions in the  
> LP1 as you mentioned,  there are also a lot of EDP styled functions
> in the machine (bouncing, replace, Q replace, multiply, etc.)  and a  
> few proprietary functions that make it different from both the DL4  
> and the EDP  (notably Scramble, Pitch manipulation - Mellotron  
> simulation with several on the way) so
> for my money,  the LP1 is a lot more versatile and 8 stereo tracks  
> with the ability to sync or not sync individual tracks is a huge plus.
>
> Progamming the LP1 is also vastly simpler than the EDP (merely  
> because you do not have to get deep into learning each individual  
> Midi footpedal
> programming but , instead use a midi learn function that is quite  
> simple on the LP1) from my experience.
>
> Their architecture is so different...........one, a mono looper than  
> has multiple loops that can only be played sequentially but with a  
> tremendous amount
> of very, very clever programming that allows for manipulation of the  
> loops.....the other,  a stereo looper (that purposefully eschewed  
> the kind of
> linear architecture of the EDP specifically because there were  
> multiple loops that one can navigate to or play simultaneously)
> that they really are different instruments.
>
> I agree with what Andy said earlier about being clear about what  
> kind of looping you envision yourself doing.
> Maybe you can post that and we can all give you a better specific  
> recommendation about which one would be best for your
> specific use.
>
>
>
> andy butler wrote:
>>
>> I have both set up for exact AB comparison, and while the LP1 has  
>> lower noise I couldn't say that otherwise the sound quality was  
>> better than the edp.
>> So the higher sample rate doesn't seem to bring an advantage,
>> (at least not to my ears which give up after 16kHz or so).
>>
>

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Yeah yeah Butler.. ha ha..

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> I'd guess that it's six notes *per Key*.
>

but what does THAT mean exactly? I dont think it reads like that at all, to
me it reads choose 6 midi notes you want to send, and Per.. per bank? but
theres 10 buttons per bank no?

HEY KEITH!! chuck us the manual?

Mark


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<br>HEY KEITH!! chuck us the manual?<br><br>Mark<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-=
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What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.

Something I can sync with a Looperlative and is easy to program is my main
concern.

I like the way that different channels can be effected differently with the
TR909, but at 1200 dollars a pop, I don't think I will be getting one of
those.

Any other ideas?

Philip

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I love the Korg es-1 and the newer one- load and tweak sounds to be drum sounds etc. Odd time null support sux tho
C
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What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.

Something I can sync with a Looperlative and is easy to program is my main
concern.

I like the way that different channels can be effected differently with the
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"Sent via soup cans and string."

ha!  that's good.

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&quot;Sent via soup cans and string.&quot;<br><br>ha!=A0 that&#39;s good.=
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Good old SR16.

 

Tony

 

From: Philip Meyers [mailto:toejampc@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:46 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Drum machine

 

What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.

 

Something I can sync with a Looperlative and is easy to program is my main
concern. 

 

I like the way that different channels can be effected differently with the
TR909, but at 1200 dollars a pop, I don't think I will be getting one of
those. 

 

Any other ideas?

 

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I love the cheesy beats and analog sounds of the old Univoxes.

No way to use anything like those, I guess.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:36 PM, "Tony K" <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:

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<p class="MsoNormal">What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">I like the way that different channels can be effected
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PC wrote:
> Thanks for all the info.
> 
> I was able to locate a few similar threads going back a to a couple of 
> years ago. In one of those threads, Bob said that he thought the best 
> thing to do was to buy as many loopers as you can afford and start 
> playing with them.
> 
> I like that advice ;-)

apart from wanting to keep 'em all in the rig :-)

My current setup is 2xEDP, LP1 and EH Stereo Memory Man.

They each have indispensable functions (although with
the SMM it's more that it's positioned pre the rest of rig
which makes it essential)

> 
> I want to do--more song oriented than new agey soundscapey stuff...
> 
> so songs with two or three distinct parts where I would have to mute a 
> few tracks and go into a chorus and then resurrect those tracks when I 
> go back to the verse or a bridge...
> 
> I'm thinking of using a drum machine or sampled drum loops for some stuff.

If you're using a drum machine/sample player for the consistent rhythm in the background
and want to flip between different loops each with fixed arrangement then 
the EDP's  a bit simpler to do that, and it's also very flexible as to how
you do it.
On EDP all the layers for one section will be overdubbed onto one loop, which
makes switchover dead easy.
...but it's just a look at the manual of 
the LP1 to see how to do similar, just a matter
of programming it's response (easy).

If you'd consider creating the rhythm loop live...and there's
many reasons to do that then the LP1 will allow you to keep your
rhythm loop going while changing sections.

If you want to be able to drop layers in and out during
the different sections then go for the LP1.


If you want stereo...LP1


andy butler 


> 
> Philip

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Jeff, that is the correct site. The win7 article is on the second page.

Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:

> I looked around Hal but didn't find anything, is this where you   
> meant? http://createdigitalmusic.com/
>
> thanks,
>
> J
>   ----- Original Message -----
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>   Creative Digital Music has an extensive discussion about this   
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got it, thanks!

j


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> Jeff, that is the correct site. The win7 article is on the second page.
> 
> Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:
> 
>> I looked around Hal but didn't find anything, is this where you   
>> meant? http://createdigitalmusic.com/
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> J
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Dean, Hal
>>   To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>   Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:10 PM
>>   Subject: RE: Windows 7 issues/
>>
>>
>>   Creative Digital Music has an extensive discussion about this   
>> within the last few days.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Hal Dean
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
>

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I participate each weekend a lot in ImprovFriday, a web community that many
of you know about I think.  I did this track last night for the 'thread'.
 It was one of my more looped pieces.  Native flute, voices, oud and loops.
 Check out ImprovFriday <http://improvfriday.ning.com> if you don't know
about it and consider coming along.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Nite_IF_Thread_8710.mp3

<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Nite_IF_Thread_8710.mp3>Thx for
listening.

Jim
--=20
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com

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I participate each weekend a lot in ImprovFriday, a web community that many=
 of you know about I think. =A0I did this track last night for the &#39;thr=
ead&#39;. =A0It was one of my more looped pieces. =A0Native flute, voices, =
oud and loops. =A0Check out <a href=3D"http://improvfriday.ning.com">Improv=
Friday</a> if you don&#39;t know about it and consider coming along.<div>
<br></div><div><a href=3D"http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Nite_IF=
_Thread_8710.mp3">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/251618/Jim_Goodin_Nite_IF_Thread_=
8710.mp3</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25=
1618/Jim_Goodin_Nite_IF_Thread_8710.mp3"></a>Thx for listening.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Jim<br>-- <br>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Fr=
ee Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6rn.=A0 Proceeds<br>from th=
e sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=A0 <a href=3D"http://jim=
goodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</=
a><br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com">woodandwiremusic.wo=
rdpress.com</a><br>

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Hello all;

I have a fender cyber twin which has build in amp modeling and effects
patches. What I’m wondering is this. Can I run my looper with the
send/return on the amp in order to incorporate the various switchable
settings in the same way one would have your guitar multi-effects unit set
up pre-looper. Hope this is clear in what I’m trying to do. If I can lay
down a clean rhythm guitar progression into the looper and then on the
second pass, use the cyber twins’s other effects to record subsequent
layers/parts in the tune.

Thanks,
Mike


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short answer: yes

it'll only take you 5 mins to give it a go (assuming you have the cables)

the send/return loop comes after the preamp/effects and before the poweramp

sim

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>  Hello all;
>
>
>
> I have a fender cyber twin which has build in amp modeling and effects
> patches. What I=92m wondering is this. Can I run my looper with the
> send/return on the amp in order to incorporate the various switchable
> settings in the same way one would have your guitar multi-effects unit se=
t
> up pre-looper. Hope this is clear in what I=92m trying to do. If I can la=
y
> down a clean rhythm guitar progression into the looper and then on the
> second pass, use the cyber twins=92s other effects to record subsequent
> layers/parts in the tune.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
>

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short answer: yes<br><br>it&#39;ll only take you 5 mins to give it a go (as=
suming you have the cables)<br><br>the send/return loop comes after the pre=
amp/effects and before the poweramp<br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
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build in amp modeling and effects patches. What I=92m wondering is this. Ca=
n I
run my looper with the send/return on the amp in order to incorporate the
various switchable settings in the same way one would have your guitar
multi-effects unit set up pre-looper. Hope this is clear in what I=92m tryi=
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Thanks Sim – just to save me more trial/error as I haven’t been using
send/return much in the past. Which goes where in terms of the in/out of the
looper and the send/return of the amp – and then the inst would go directly
into the amp input? Excuse my lack of know how on this stuff.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: August 9, 2010 9:20 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: question about send/return and looper connection

short answer: yes

it'll only take you 5 mins to give it a go (assuming you have the cables)

the send/return loop comes after the preamp/effects and before the poweramp

sim
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mike Kilburn < mkilburn@eastlink.ca
<mailto:mkilburn@eastlink.ca> > wrote:
Hello all;

I have a fender cyber twin which has build in amp modeling and effects
patches. What I’m wondering is this. Can I run my looper with the
send/return on the amp in order to incorporate the various switchable
settings in the same way one would have your guitar multi-effects unit set
up pre-looper. Hope this is clear in what I’m trying to do. If I can lay
down a clean rhythm guitar progression into the looper and then on the
second pass, use the cyber twins’s other effects to record subsequent
layers/parts in the tune.

Thanks,
Mike



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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Simeon Harris
[mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> August 9, 2010 9:20 =
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: question =
about
send/return and looper connection</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =
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12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times =
New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>short answer: yes<br>
<br>
it'll only take you 5 mins to give it a go (assuming you have the =
cables)<br>
<br>
the send/return loop comes after the preamp/effects and before the =
poweramp<br>
<br>
sim</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I have a fender cyber twin which =
has build
in amp modeling and effects patches. What I=92m wondering is this. Can I =
run my
looper with the send/return on the amp in order to incorporate the =
various
switchable settings in the same way one would have your guitar =
multi-effects
unit set up pre-looper. Hope this is clear in what I=92m trying to do. =
If I can
lay down a clean rhythm guitar progression into the looper and then on =
the
second pass, use the cyber twins=92s other effects to record subsequent
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toejampc@gmail.com wrote:
> I love the cheesy beats and analog sounds of the old Univoxes.
>
> No way to use anything like those, I guess.
>
>
Well, for what it's worth,   I have  20 pre-digital drum machines in my 
collection
and I've collated a selection of good quality samples of all the major 
drum machine sounds
from history as well as hundreds of samples of other electronic and 
acoustic drums as well as percussion.    It's taken
me over 20 years to put this collection together and I sell a DVD of 
those sounds
for a mere $25 if anyone is interested.

With a phenomenal virtual drum machine (and DAW) like FL Studio Pro 
(formerly Fruity Loops)
you cannot own a better drum machine.

Let me know off list if anyone is interested in owning that collection.

Rick Walker

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guitar goes into the front of the amp

effect send on the amp goes to input of the looper

output of the looper goes to effect return on the amp

sim

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>  Thanks Sim =96 just to save me more trial/error as I haven=92t been usin=
g
> send/return much in the past. Which goes where in terms of the in/out of =
the
> looper and the send/return of the amp =96 and then the inst would go dire=
ctly
> into the amp input? Excuse my lack of know how on this stuff.
>
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> Mike
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guitar goes into the front of the amp<br><br>effect send on the amp goes to=
 input of the looper<br><br>output of the looper goes to effect return on t=
he amp<br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at =
3:31 PM, Mike Kilburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mkilburn@east=
link.ca">mkilburn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"=
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=96 just to save me more trial/error as I haven=92t been using send/return =
much in
the past. Which goes where in terms of the in/out of the looper and the
send/return of the amp =96 and then the inst would go directly into the amp
input? Excuse my lack of know how on this stuff. </span></font></span></p>

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Rick Walker schrieb:
> With a phenomenal virtual drum machine (and DAW) like FL Studio Pro 
> (formerly Fruity Loops)
> you cannot own a better drum machine.
(waiting for Matt Davignon to disagree any moment now...)

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Yes, the old Fruity Loops quickly became standard for hiphop guys
"making beats". Super simple and powerful software!

My own software fav today is iDrum though, because it lets you combine
pattern mode and song mode. This means you can run it as a sync
following plugin inside any host app (Mainstage, Bidule, Live etc) and
set up a vamp of great variaety of any number of beats. Good for live
looping improvisers that wants "drums that not feel stiff and
repetitious". Of course a lot others combine pattern mode and song
mode, but iDrum is so cheap and has unlimited resources in form of
third-party created drum kits with patterns and song setups (for those
that don't like to program as much as plugging in to play)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
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> Rick Walker schrieb:
>>
>> With a phenomenal virtual drum machine (and DAW) like FL Studio Pro
>> (formerly Fruity Loops)
>> you cannot own a better drum machine.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> (waiting for Matt Davignon to disagree any moment now...)
>

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Im relatively happy with the *Boss Dr Groove or DR202,* as it more commonly
known.

Sounds.. it has many, 256 different drum sounds of which about 50 are "bass"
sounds.

*Good things:* It has realtime filter tweaking, res and cutoff, and decay
setting. you can mute each instrument seperatly from one window, nice for
improv.. drum kits can be user built wit any combination of sounds (you
could have a kitr with nothing but cowbells if you want.. each sound can be
pitched, altered in volume, decay etc.
It has TWO built in sequencers. One using the in built "bass-synth>" that is
OK, and polyphonic. and one that sends to an external synth of YOUR
choosing. So you could pretty much use this and one module to do all your
minimal techno needs... Personally I use this sequencer to control my EDP in
synch with the drums...

*Bad Things:* A bit of a pig to program, cluncky step programming, hellish
realtime programing. You have to STOP it to go into record, so you cant just
decide mid improvisation, I need a snare hit on the 7th beat.. nope... you
have to stop it. It has like.. um 600 preset patterns, and like er.. 100
user patterns... like you need all those presets.. horrible, and it always
boots to tune 1.. a horrible hip hop thing with a nasty cowbell, so you hear
THAT one alot... the delay effect IS BPM dependant, but NOT if you synch it
from midi.. damn!

HOWEVER... if you like tweaking, you can make crazy kits with every sound
pitched wildly, long booming 808 bass drums and harsh distorted clicks
etc...

Best thing about them...? Check Ebay  maybe 200 dollars ??... saw some for
20 dollars too.. but auction not over!

Mark






On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Philip Meyers <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

> What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.
>
> Something I can sync with a Looperlative and is easy to program is my main
> concern.
>
> I like the way that different channels can be effected differently with the
> TR909, but at 1200 dollars a pop, I don't think I will be getting one of
> those.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Philip
>



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Im relatively happy with the <b>Boss Dr Groove or DR202,</b> as it more com=
monly known.<br><br>Sounds.. it has many, 256 different drum sounds of whic=
h about 50 are &quot;bass&quot; sounds.<br><br><b>Good things:</b> It has r=
ealtime filter tweaking, res and cutoff, and decay setting. you can mute ea=
ch instrument seperatly from one window, nice for improv.. drum kits can be=
 user built wit any combination of sounds (you could have a kitr with nothi=
ng but cowbells if you want.. each sound can be pitched, altered in volume,=
 decay etc.<br>

It has TWO built in sequencers. One using the in built &quot;bass-synth&gt;=
&quot; that is OK, and polyphonic. and one that sends to an external synth =
of YOUR choosing. So you could pretty much use this and one module to do al=
l your minimal techno needs... Personally I use this sequencer to control m=
y EDP in synch with the drums... <br>

<br><b>Bad Things:</b> A bit of a pig to program, cluncky step programming,=
 hellish realtime programing. You have to STOP it to go into record, so you=
 cant just decide mid improvisation, I need a snare hit on the 7th beat.. n=
ope... you have to stop it. It has like.. um 600 preset patterns, and like =
er.. 100 user patterns... like you need all those presets.. horrible, and i=
t always boots to tune 1.. a horrible hip hop thing with a nasty cowbell, s=
o you hear THAT one alot... the delay effect IS BPM dependant, but NOT if y=
ou synch it from midi.. damn!<br>

<br>HOWEVER... if you like tweaking, you can make crazy kits with every sou=
nd pitched wildly, long booming 808 bass drums and harsh distorted clicks e=
tc...<br><br>Best thing about them...? Check Ebay=A0 maybe 200 dollars ??..=
. saw some for 20 dollars too.. but auction not over!<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug =
7, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Philip Meyers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
oejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

What are some drum machines that are popular with loopers.<div><br></div><d=
iv>Something I can sync with a Looperlative and is easy to program is my ma=
in concern.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I like the way that different chann=
els can be effected differently with the TR909, but at 1200 dollars a pop, =
I don&#39;t think I will be getting one of those.=A0</div>


<div><br></div><div>Any other ideas?</div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#88=
8888"><div>Philip</div>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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I still love the old Casio RZ-1 sampling drum machines. (I have 2 of  
them) The "drum" sounds are a bit lackluster IMO, but those four, 1  
second sampling pads make up for it.
I have rarely used the "drum" sounds, but have gone to town with the  
sample pads. The RZ-1 also has midi in / out / thru and the midi out  
function also acts like a sort of "trigger" that automatically plays  
some notes on other midi kybds in the chain. You don't have any  
control over what those assigned notes will be, and have to work  
around that, but it can sometimes result in some interesting  
experiments and discoveries.  You can also slave the RZ-1 to an  
external sequencer and / or a kybd that has an internal sequencer  
and / arpeggiator and those will trigger drums / sample pads  
accordingly.  Also, all of the drum sounds and sample pads have their  
own separate volume controls and audio out 1/4" jacks which can be  
helpful. They also have patterns/ songs internal storage and for  
storing those externally, why it is done via a *cassette tape* of  
course! :-) And apparently, the circuit bender crowd have picked up  
on the RZ-1, as well....

Ye can sometimes find these units for cheap at used gear shops,etc. I  
saw one here in Ptld not all that long ago for only $79 and they are  
fairly chunky in size and built like a tank.

More:
http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/CASIORZ1/

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR

On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> toejampc@gmail.com wrote:
>> I love the cheesy beats and analog sounds of the old Univoxes.
>>
>> No way to use anything like those, I guess.
>>
>>
> Well, for what it's worth,   I have  20 pre-digital drum machines  
> in my collection
> and I've collated a selection of good quality samples of all the  
> major drum machine sounds
> from history as well as hundreds of samples of other electronic and  
> acoustic drums as well as percussion.    It's taken
> me over 20 years to put this collection together and I sell a DVD  
> of those sounds
> for a mere $25 if anyone is interested.
>
> With a phenomenal virtual drum machine (and DAW) like FL Studio Pro  
> (formerly Fruity Loops)
> you cannot own a better drum machine.
>
> Let me know off list if anyone is interested in owning that  
> collection.
>
> Rick Walker
>

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Howdy,

 I bought my TR-909 brand new, with waratee, for $299 when Roland remaindered them, just like the MV-30 for $699. I was universally ridiculed for buying a machine that didn't sound like "real" drums,(the 707 had just come out). I didn't care, it was all I could afford. Fast forward 15 years and all the technos & rappers were using them. I was lucky. Still am. I wish you could get one for that price. You might want to check out the DJX-II. IT has a LOT of 909 on it. If you're into techno, it has a lot more.
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Howdy,
 Don't forget 
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Im relatively happy with the Boss Dr Groove or DR202,


I remember having a Dr Groove in the early eighties. Not sure it was
number "202" model, but it was great fun! Used a Roland TR808 too and
liked its patterns/songs based programming setup (same as I just
mentioned for the iDrum in my post replying to Rick Walkers software
take).

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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I remember hearing TR-909 in the early eighties before I found out it
was a drum machine. I just loved that stiff and thumpy drum sound and
used to wonder how the hell they had dampened the toms to achieve
that! And I also wondered how the drummer was able to play like
that... LOL! Then 909'=C2=A8s started showing up all over town at rehearsal
places and I got it all right ;-)  "Ah a drum machine, yeah!" Never
bought one though, because they were so big and heave and also because
I was waiting for samplers to be available. Thought that would be more
useful, since I was quite inspired back then by the drum sampling work
of artists like Cabaret Voltaire and Yello.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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> Howdy,
>
> =C2=A0I bought my TR-909 brand new, with waratee, for $299 when Roland re=
maindered them, just like the MV-30 for $699. I was universally ridiculed f=
or buying a machine that didn't sound like "real" drums,(the 707 had just c=
ome out). I didn't care, it was all I could afford. Fast forward 15 years a=
nd all the technos & rappers were using them. I was lucky. Still am. I wish=
 you could get one for that price. You might want to check out the DJX-II. =
IT has a LOT of 909 on it. If you're into techno, it has a lot more.
> Rig
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi,
I know that some of you have 24 pin synth guitars out there. I've got 
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forgot to put the link

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130418107990&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT


At 04:08 PM 8/9/2010, you wrote:
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Are you sure it wasnt the classic Dr Rhythm ... now THAT was a cool simple
drum machine... there was a short time (guessing 1981) where EVERYONE had
one (If you werent Thomas Dolby and could afford a Linn Drum!!!)

I also had the Casio, as mentioned, that was GREAT.. but HUGE!

But the nightmare is... palms sweating as I remember, That I OWNED A FUCKING
808!
.. and sold it...

what a doofus!


I remember doing a gig with the 808 back in 86-7.. just me and the 808... It
was that bass drum you know.... phew...

thing is they dont make speakers that can handle that kinda bass no more...
My Genulecs just go inside out


I'm reminiscing now... hose me down!

Mark



On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > Im relatively happy with the Boss Dr Groove or DR202,
>
>
> I remember having a Dr Groove in the early eighties. Not sure it was
> number "202" model, but it was great fun! Used a Roland TR808 too and
> liked its patterns/songs based programming setup (same as I just
> mentioned for the iDrum in my post replying to Rick Walkers software
> take).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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Are you sure it wasnt the classic Dr Rhythm ... now THAT was a cool simple =
drum machine... there was a short time (guessing 1981) where EVERYONE had o=
ne (If you werent Thomas Dolby and could afford a Linn Drum!!!) <br><br>

I also had the Casio, as mentioned, that was GREAT.. but HUGE!<br><br>But t=
he nightmare is... palms sweating as I remember, That I OWNED A FUCKING 808=
! <br>.. and sold it... <br><br>what a doofus! <br>
<br><br>I remember doing a gig with the 808 back in 86-7.. just me and the =
808... It was that bass drum you know.... phew...<br><br>thing is they dont=
 make speakers that can handle that kinda bass no more... My Genulecs just =
go inside out<br>

<br><br>I&#39;m reminiscing now... hose me down!<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Per Boysen <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:16 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@=
markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; Im relatively happy with the Boss Dr Groove or DR202,<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>I remember having a Dr Groove in the early eighties. Not sure it was<=
br>
number &quot;202&quot; model, but it was great fun! Used a Roland TR808 too=
 and<br>
liked its patterns/songs based programming setup (same as I just<br>
mentioned for the iDrum in my post replying to Rick Walkers software<br>
take).<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark franco=
mbe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @=
markfrancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> Are you sure it wasnt the classic Dr Rhythm ... now THAT was a cool simple
> drum machine... there was a short time (guessing 1981) where EVERYONE had
> one (If you werent Thomas Dolby and could afford a Linn Drum!!!)
>
> I also had the Casio, as mentioned, that was GREAT.. but HUGE!
>
> But the nightmare is... palms sweating as I remember, That I OWNED A
> FUCKING 808!
> .. and sold it...
>
> what a doofus!
>
>
I think most of us have at least one of those "damn I sold that" regrets.
Mine was a Moog Rogue and Mutron BiPhase.

DOH!

-- 
-==-=-=-
Tony

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM, mark fra=
ncombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark=
@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Are you sure it wasnt the classic Dr Rhythm ... now THAT was a cool simple =
drum machine... there was a short time (guessing 1981) where EVERYONE had o=
ne (If you werent Thomas Dolby and could afford a Linn Drum!!!) <br><br>


I also had the Casio, as mentioned, that was GREAT.. but HUGE!<br><br>But t=
he nightmare is... palms sweating as I remember, That I OWNED A FUCKING 808=
! <br>.. and sold it... <br><br>what a doofus! <br>
<br clear=3D"all"></blockquote></div><br>I think most of us have at least o=
ne of those &quot;damn I sold that&quot; regrets.=A0 Mine was a Moog Rogue =
and Mutron BiPhase. <br><br>DOH!<br><br>-- <br>-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- <br>Tony<br=
>

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Are you sure it wasnt the classic Dr Rhythm ... now THAT was a cool simple
> drum machine... there was a short time (guessing 1981) where EVERYONE had
> one (If you werent Thomas Dolby and could afford a Linn Drum!!!)

Hm.. well yes, maybe it was a Dr Rhythm. Definitely pre MIDI 'cause I
have recordings with it that I cut in 1981. I liked it's crappy sound,
especially if run also through a tape delay that was "tweaked" during
audio capture. Didn't like Dolby's music and thought the Linn sounded
"too fat and punchy" - until I heard it in a Michael Jackson tune were
it suddenly sounded great (in that production - Thriller period I
guess...)


> 808!

A guy we shared rehearsal area with kept an 808 there. We used to run
it through a Roland tape delay to make its "boring sound" (ten years
later we all changed opinion on THAT and today I love the 808) a
little more interesting.

Per

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I had an RZ-1 too and just sold it last year. I was amazed how much I got 
for it on Ebay - about five times what I expected. I don't regret selling 
it, but it was great fun to use and the cassette of extra drum sounds that 
came with it was rather amusing, with that nice Japanese man announcing the 
sounds.

Steve

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wrote:


I also had the Casio, as mentioned, that was GREAT.. but HUGE!



I think most of us have at least one of those "damn I sold that" regrets. 
Mine was a Moog Rogue and Mutron BiPhase.

DOH!

-- 
-==-=-=-
Tony 


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A horrible, horrible drum machine I bought in 1980 was the German
DigiDrum. It was an ugly plastic box with an output jack and a
mysterious set of on/off pins to be used for hexadecimal programming -
ouch, learning that by the manual was hurting your brain. Not to tell
how boring and non musical it was to produce with. Only the kick drum
sound was good, everything else sounded bad, bad, bad. Like if someone
had tried to use the new digital technique to replicate real drum
sounds. The earlier Dr Rhytm type of crap boxes were all much more
musical as instruments. I think the DigiDrum was the first drum
machine to use digital samples as sound sources, hence its dull sound
character (except for the kick sound). A friend also bought one and
had it rebuilt to only give the kick drum sound on a CV trig puls
(that was a good idea of abusing a stupid product for the better).
Phew, thank god we're in 2kx now and can use laptops instead of those
boxes ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi,

Each key can have up to 6 outputs that can be notes, program changes, CC#'s, 
OSC. 

Keith
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----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 12:14:01 PM
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mark francombe wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk 
><mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
>     (essential for loopers)
> 
> 
>     Oh...and what about the price!
> 
> 
> YEah, I kinda needed to know the price too... and one thing (will read up when 
>I have time) I notices a frightening sentance..
> 
> *"Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes"*
> 
> Whats that... SIX UNIQUE NOTES?? Midi notes?   Dont we need more midi notes to 
>control EDP..? Or .. wait.. I guess EDP can use PC too?? or is it CC... I 
>forget.. I use notes...
> 
> Anyone?? Anyone? Buhler? Andy??

ok, but this is the *last* time

for loop functions the EDP uses either Note-On
OR CC, never both.
The CC needs to be accompanied by a matching cc with value 0
as an equivalent to Note-Off.

Program Change commands are used to select EDP presets.


I'd guess that it's six notes *per Key*.


andy buhler

> Mark
> 
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Manual in the works - 

K
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From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
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Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 4:07:40 PM
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Yeah yeah Butler.. ha ha.. 


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

I'd guess that it's six notes *per Key*.
but what does THAT mean exactly? I dont think it reads like that at all, to me 
it reads choose 6 midi notes you want to send, and Per.. per bank? but theres 10 
buttons per bank no?

HEY KEITH!! chuck us the manual?

Mark


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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div></div><div>Manual in the works -&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>K</div><div>&nbsp;</div>Keith McMillen <br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.keithmcmillen.com">www.keithmcmillen.com</a> </span><br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.beamfoundation.org">www.beamfoundation.org</a> </span><br>"Music For A New Reason"<div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> mark francombe &lt;mark@markfrancombe.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Fri, August 6, 2010 4:07:40
 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: SoftStep Reservation list<br></font><br>Yeah yeah Butler.. ha ha.. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM, andy butler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">

<div>I'd guess that it's six notes *per Key*.</div></blockquote></div><br>but what does THAT mean exactly? I dont think it reads like that at all, to me it reads choose 6 midi notes you want to send, and Per.. per bank? but theres 10 buttons per bank no?<br>

<br>HEY KEITH!! chuck us the manual?<br><br>Mark<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>

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Hi,

I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response measurement) 
with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program that compared the receipt 
of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and the USB MIDI receipt of message. 
Results were consistently 3-5 ms. Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 2 Duo.

Keith 
 Keith McMillen 
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----- Original Message ----
From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list

Great news,
a lot of folks been waiting for this.

What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
(essential for loopers)


Oh...and what about the price!

andy butler

ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
  (they have a screensaver ;-)
    

keith mcmillen wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
> 
> SoftSteps are soon to be here. 
> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling 
>the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In 
>this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 
>value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
> 
> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
> 
>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>       Expander.
>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>       airline-friendly.
>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Keith
> 
> Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
> "Music For A New Reason"
> 
> 

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Hi,

We have the expanders working. I expect them to be 0-3 weeks after initial 
release. Price with cables and USB power supply (for standalone) will be $49.95.

Price on SoftStep is $289. Sorry about that.

K
 Keith McMillen 
www.keithmcmillen.com 
www.beamfoundation.org 
"Music For A New Reason"



----- Original Message ----
From: d.nix <d.nix@comcast.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:24:01 PM
Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list

Hello Keith

Whats the ETA on the MIDI Expander module? Relative to the SoftStep ship
date, that is...

Thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "keith mcmillen" <keefer07@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: SoftStep Reservation list


> Hi Everybody,
>
> SoftSteps are soon to be here.
>
> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be
selling
> the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in
stores. In
> this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a
$34.95
> value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
>
> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>
> * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
Expander.
> * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
Controllers,
> * Program Changes, or OSC.
> * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
> * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
> airline-friendly.
> * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite composite... "and
> it's beer-proof!"
> * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
> * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
> Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
>
> >

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> Price on SoftStep is $289. Sorry about that.


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friend, been with me thru the good times and the bad, worked your little
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Each key can have up to 6 outputs that can be notes, program changes, CC#'s,
> OSC.

Nice. BTW, all that is explained on the site and in the videos with
Barry Threw. However, something that is not explained anywhere is if
the "preset" handling happens on a full setup basis (as in "bank") or
just on a local pad basis. Barry just touches briefly on this in the
NAMM video by saying that "presets can be saved and recalled".

For us on this list a kind of deal breaker would be to know (1) if
recalling presets can be done on-the-fly while performing (as opposed
to having to load the SoftStep editor software in order to recall a
preset) and also (2) if presets of full ten pad setups can be handled.

Bottom line: In this product, WHAT EXACTLY IS "A PRESET"?


> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php

Well, that Reservation List form doesn't have a box for "country". I
added "Sweden" as a parenthesis inside the "city" box. Hope that will
do.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Hi Simeon

Tried it and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch to
another it sent the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. The
cyber-twin is your standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which would
probably work. I’ll experiment a bit more with the amp’s set  up.

Mike

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guitar goes into the front of the amp

effect send on the amp goes to input of the looper

output of the looper goes to effect return on the amp

sim
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mike Kilburn < mkilburn@eastlink.ca
<mailto:mkilburn@eastlink.ca> > wrote:
Thanks Sim – just to save me more trial/error as I haven’t been using
send/return much in the past. Which goes where in terms of the in/out of the
looper and the send/return of the amp – and then the inst would go directly
into the amp input? Excuse my lack of know how on this stuff.

Mike


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effect send on the amp goes to input of the looper<br>
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Hi Simeon,
I don't know where the effects send and return is in the Cyber Twin =20
circuit, so I can't help you with that particular amp. Something that =20=

I find works best is to get a line out from the speaker signal--some =20
amps have this. If it doesn't an attenuator or an impedance matcher =20
will. I put time-based effects in my effects loop and put an =20
attenuator or a weber z matcher between the speaker output and the =20
speaker in my setup. Then I take the line out signal to my looper and =20=

then to the board--or another amp. I use an Aracom attenuator, but I =20
think even the cheaper ones like the HotPlates have a line out too.

The good thing about it is that it allows you to loop the sound that =20
you want--you hear exactly what you will be getting through the =20
speakers of your amp--with just the right amount of overdrive and =20
whatever effects. Once that sound is looping, you can change your =20
effects, dirty up your sound or whatever and play over the top of it. =20=

Changing your amp settings won't affect what is being looped at all. =20
That could be tricky if the looper was in your effects loop.

PC




On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Mike Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Simeon
>
> Tried it and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch =20=

> to another it sent the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. =20=

> The cyber-twin is your standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which =20
> would probably work. I=92ll experiment a bit more with the amp=92s set =
 =20
> up.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
> Sent: August 9, 2010 1:24 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: question about send/return and looper connection
>
> guitar goes into the front of the amp
>
> effect send on the amp goes to input of the looper
>
> output of the looper goes to effect return on the amp
>
> sim
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> =20=

> wrote:
> Thanks Sim =96 just to save me more trial/error as I haven=92t been =20=

> using send/return much in the past. Which goes where in terms of the =20=

> in/out of the looper and the send/return of the amp =96 and then the =20=

> inst would go directly into the amp input? Excuse my lack of know =20
> how on this stuff.
>
>
> Mike
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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where the effects send and return is in the Cyber Twin circuit, so I =
can't help you with that particular amp. Something that I find works =
best is to get a line out from the speaker signal--some amps have this. =
If it doesn't an attenuator or an impedance matcher will. I put =
time-based effects in my effects loop and put an attenuator or a weber z =
matcher between the speaker output and the speaker in my setup. Then I =
take the line out signal to my looper and then to the board--or another =
amp. I use an Aracom attenuator, but I think even the cheaper ones like =
the HotPlates have a line out too.</div><div><br></div><div>The good =
thing about it is that it allows you to loop the sound that you =
want--you hear exactly what you will be getting through the speakers of =
your amp--with just the right amount of overdrive and whatever effects. =
Once that sound is looping, you can change your effects, dirty up your =
sound or whatever and play over the top of it. Changing your amp =
settings won't affect what is being looped at all. That could be tricky =
if the looper was in your effects =
loop.</div><div><br></div><div>PC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Mike Kilburn =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
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vlink=3D"blue"><div class=3D"Section1"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span class=3D"EmailStyle17" =
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face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hi =
Simeon<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; =
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"><span class=3D"EmailStyle17" style=3D"color: navy; "><font size=3D"2" =
color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial; ">Tried it and unfortunately when switching from one =
amp/effects patch to another it sent the initial loop phrase thru the =
switched patch. The cyber-twin is your standard clean/dirty dual channel =
amp which would probably work. I=92ll experiment a bit more with the =
amp=92s set<span>&nbsp;<span =
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">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; =
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PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span =
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blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: question about =
send/return and looper connection</span></font></div><div =
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margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
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"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"black" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; color: black; ">guitar goes into the front of =
the amp<br><br>effect send on the amp goes to input of the =
looper<br><br>output of the looper goes to effect return on the =
amp<br><br>sim</span></font><font color=3D"black"><span style=3D"color: =
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color: black; ">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mike Kilburn &lt;<a =
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vlink=3D"blue"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial">Thanks Sim =
=96 just to save me more trial/error as I haven=92t been using =
send/return much in the past. Which goes where in terms of the in/out of =
the looper and the send/return of the amp =96 and then the inst would go =
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@ billbrig   

Yeah,  the TR 909 has become de riguer for the techno folks and the TR 
808 (which had analogue sounds) and preceeded it
has become de riquer for the hip hop crowd.      Ironically,  the TR 707 
never has made an impact on modern music.

for what it's worth,  I have all the sounds from the 909 and the 808 in 
that sample collection I offered.
In that collection, however,  I did not organize them by specific drum 
machine but, rather,  organized them
by kinds of sounds............as an example I have a folder called 
Analogue Backbeats and inside that folder I have
folders with timbral and envelope organizations of different snare drum 
sounds.

@ rev feever

   thanks for mentioning the Casio sampling machine......I want to get one!

@  per boysen

thanks for mentioning the iDrum,   I've not had anything to recommend to 
my students who are only on Macs.
Is it a freeware plug?

@ rainer         Actually,  I"m a monster fan of what Matt Davignon does 
with his drum machine work.
What is wonderful about it, however, is not the drum machine he uses 
(which is fairly prosaic as drum machines go)
but how creatively he processes sounds so that it sound specifically 
different from the stock sounds that come with it.
If you guys have not purchased any of his drum machine records,  I 
highly recommend them.    I like them all but
I fell in love with BWOO.

So perhaps I should have said that I think that Fruity Loops is the most 
versatile drum machine and has the most options
for tweaking sounds so that they sound individualistic and 'fresh'.

bill bigrig wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>  I bought my TR-909 brand new, with waratee, for $299 when Roland remaindered them, just like the MV-30 for $699. I was universally ridiculed for buying a machine that didn't sound like "real" drums,(the 707 had just come out). I didn't care, it was all I could afford. Fast forward 15 years and all the technos & rappers were using them. I was lucky. Still am. I wish you could get one for that price. You might want to check out the DJX-II. IT has a LOT of 909 on it. If you're into techno, it has a lot more.
> Rig
>
>
>       
>   

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At 12:58 PM +0000 8/9/10, Anders Bergdahl wrote:
>Hey, i got an Iphone recently and found Bebot and even more (sales 
>pitch voice on) it LOOPS and glitches and does COOL stuff!! Very 
>funn to do some looping on the bus..
>I just plugged my Iphone into my laptop and recorded a quick "thing" 
>all loopine i Bebot omly delay and reverb are added in the laptop....
><http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9503860>http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9503860
>
>Down load it NOW... it really really FUN.. lets hear more jams on 
>this little gem!!

Hah!  I love Bebot.  I grabbed it first thing when I got my iPhone 
last year, and it's remained one of my favorite "tinker and relax" 
apps (along with BT's 'Sonifi' app) ever since.  In fact, I was just 
playing with it while waiting for pizza take-out in the car last 
night, and wondering if they'd ported it to the iPad yet.  I love 
futzing around with the Scale presets, then practicing wild prog-rock 
synth runs. :D

Great fun, and I can't believe how good it sounds for a phone app. 
I've still got an older version, so I didn't realize they'd added 
looping and glitching.  Gotta go check for updates now....

	--m.
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Thanks for the comments and suggestions. It's been fun reading and  
reminiscing about the machines I've known in the past. Not that I  
don't like real drummers.

I even picked up a copy of Rebirth for my iPhone and was playing with  
it a bit yesterday. I'm not even into techno anymore, but it was fun.  
I'm a mac user, too. So I may check out iDrum.

That said, even though it's a heavy unit to haul around, I really like  
the 909--easy to program and individual outs for stomp boxes.

P


On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> @ billbrig
> Yeah,  the TR 909 has become de riguer for the techno folks and the  
> TR 808 (which had analogue sounds) and preceeded it
> has become de riquer for the hip hop crowd.      Ironically,  the TR  
> 707 never has made an impact on modern music.
>
> for what it's worth,  I have all the sounds from the 909 and the 808  
> in that sample collection I offered.
> In that collection, however,  I did not organize them by specific  
> drum machine but, rather,  organized them
> by kinds of sounds............as an example I have a folder called  
> Analogue Backbeats and inside that folder I have
> folders with timbral and envelope organizations of different snare  
> drum sounds.
>
> @ rev feever
>
>  thanks for mentioning the Casio sampling machine......I want to get  
> one!
>
> @  per boysen
>
> thanks for mentioning the iDrum,   I've not had anything to  
> recommend to my students who are only on Macs.
> Is it a freeware plug?
>
> @ rainer         Actually,  I"m a monster fan of what Matt Davignon  
> does with his drum machine work.
> What is wonderful about it, however, is not the drum machine he uses  
> (which is fairly prosaic as drum machines go)
> but how creatively he processes sounds so that it sound specifically  
> different from the stock sounds that come with it.
> If you guys have not purchased any of his drum machine records,  I  
> highly recommend them.    I like them all but
> I fell in love with BWOO.
>
> So perhaps I should have said that I think that Fruity Loops is the  
> most versatile drum machine and has the most options
> for tweaking sounds so that they sound individualistic and 'fresh'.
>
> bill bigrig wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I bought my TR-909 brand new, with waratee, for $299 when Roland  
>> remaindered them, just like the MV-30 for $699. I was universally  
>> ridiculed for buying a machine that didn't sound like "real" drums, 
>> (the 707 had just come out). I didn't care, it was all I could  
>> afford. Fast forward 15 years and all the technos & rappers were  
>> using them. I was lucky. Still am. I wish you could get one for  
>> that price. You might want to check out the DJX-II. IT has a LOT of  
>> 909 on it. If you're into techno, it has a lot more.
>> Rig
>>
>>
>>
>

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As a new owner of an iPod Touch, I have to say that there are a few
good apps to be found that seem to be capable of some serious fun.

<http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin/191444-1>http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin/19144=
4-1

...it's  a little sample of something from the iPod app called
ThumbJam, run through some new software from audiobulb called,
appropriately, "Ambient." Details on that are over here:

<http://www.audiobulb.com/create/Ambient/AB-Ambient.htm>http://www.audiobul=
b.com/create/Ambient/AB-Ambient.htm

No other processing; used one of the presets.

Best,

Dennis

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> At 12:58 PM +0000 8/9/10, Anders Bergdahl wrote:
>>
>> Hey, i got an Iphone recently and found Bebot and even more (sales pitch
>> voice on) it LOOPS and glitches and does COOL stuff!! Very funn to do so=
me
>> looping on the bus..
>> I just plugged my Iphone into my laptop and recorded a quick "thing" all
>> loopine i Bebot omly delay and reverb are added in the laptop....
>>
>> <http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D9503860>http://soundclick.com/shar=
e?songid=3D9503860
>>
>> Down load it NOW... it really really FUN.. lets hear more jams on this
>> little gem!!
>
> Hah! =A0I love Bebot. =A0I grabbed it first thing when I got my iPhone la=
st
> year, and it's remained one of my favorite "tinker and relax" apps (along
> with BT's 'Sonifi' app) ever since. =A0In fact, I was just playing with i=
t
> while waiting for pizza take-out in the car last night, and wondering if
> they'd ported it to the iPad yet. =A0I love futzing around with the Scale
> presets, then practicing wild prog-rock synth runs. :D
>
> Great fun, and I can't believe how good it sounds for a phone app. I've
> still got an older version, so I didn't realize they'd added looping and
> glitching. =A0Gotta go check for updates now....
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
> --
> _____
> "i've got no houston to wind down to. i've got no protocol...."
>
>



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That sounds good.

Presumably by "driver of known latency" you mean
"driver latency + usb/firewire latency + A/D conversion time"?


How about the midi-module? 


andy butler

keith mcmillen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response measurement) 
> with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program that compared the receipt 
> of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and the USB MIDI receipt of message. 
> Results were consistently 3-5 ms. Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 2 Duo.
> 
> Keith 
>  Keith McMillen 
> www.keithmcmillen.com 
> www.beamfoundation.org 
> "Music For A New Reason"
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
> 
> Great news,
> a lot of folks been waiting for this.
> 
> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
> (essential for loopers)
> 
> 
> Oh...and what about the price!
> 
> andy butler
> 
> ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
>   (they have a screensaver ;-)
>     
> 
> keith mcmillen wrote:
>> Hi Everybody,
>>
>> SoftSteps are soon to be here. 
>> We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling 
>> the first 100 SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In 
>> this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 
>> value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
>>
>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>>
>>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>>       Expander.
>>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>>       airline-friendly.
>>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> Keith McMillen
>> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
>> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>
>>
> 
> 

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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> thanks for mentioning the iDrum, =C2=A0 I've not had anything to recommen=
d to my
> students who are only on Macs.

iDrum is available for both Windows, Mac, iPhone and iPod Touch. Looks
and feels the same on all systems.

> Is it a freeware plug?

No, it is a real product with full support. Go check it out at
http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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well that's a bit rubbish, imo

what's the point of having an effects loop if it does this?

in my unadulterated rage, i downloaded the manual to see if the loop can be
changed from pre-internal-fx to post-internal-fx

it can't

it does have xlr outs, so you could use a small mixer with your looper
inserted into one of the aux sends, but you'll be stuck playing on
headphones

hmmm

sim

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Mike Kilburn <mkilburn@eastlink.ca> wrote:

>  Hi Simeon
>
>
>
> Tried it and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch to
> another it sent the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. The
> cyber-twin is your standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which would
> probably work. I=92ll experiment a bit more with the amp=92s set  up.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>

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well that&#39;s a bit rubbish, imo<br><br>what&#39;s the point of having an=
 effects loop if it does this?<br><br>in my unadulterated rage, i downloade=
d the manual to see if the loop can be changed from pre-internal-fx to post=
-internal-fx<br>
<br>it can&#39;t<br><br>it does have xlr outs, so you could use a small mix=
er with your looper inserted into one of the aux sends, but you&#39;ll be s=
tuck playing on headphones<br><br>hmmm<br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Mike Kilburn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch to another it s=
ent
the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. The cyber-twin is your
standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which would probably work. I=92ll exp=
eriment
a bit more with the amp=92s set<span>=A0 </span>up. </span></font></span></=
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Thanks for looking into this for me. The amp is new to me this past month so
I’m still on a learning curve with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: August 10, 2010 7:45 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: question about send/return and looper connection

well that's a bit rubbish, imo

what's the point of having an effects loop if it does this?

in my unadulterated rage, i downloaded the manual to see if the loop can be
changed from pre-internal-fx to post-internal-fx

it can't

it does have xlr outs, so you could use a small mixer with your looper
inserted into one of the aux sends, but you'll be stuck playing on
headphones

hmmm

sim
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Mike Kilburn < mkilburn@eastlink.ca
<mailto:mkilburn@eastlink.ca> > wrote:
Hi Simeon

Tried it and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch to
another it sent the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. The
cyber-twin is your standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which would
probably work. I’ll experiment a bit more with the amp’s set  up.

Mike



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about
send/return and looper connection</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =
!supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times =
New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>well that's a bit rubbish, =
imo<br>
<br>
what's the point of having an effects loop if it does this?<br>
<br>
in my unadulterated rage, i downloaded the manual to see if the loop can =
be
changed from pre-internal-fx to post-internal-fx<br>
<br>
it can't<br>
<br>
it does have xlr outs, so you could use a small mixer with your looper =
inserted
into one of the aux sends, but you'll be stuck playing on headphones<br>
<br>
hmmm<br>
<br>
sim</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On =
Tue, Aug
10, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Mike Kilburn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mkilburn@eastlink.ca">mkilburn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;
wrote:</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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0cm 0cm 6.0pt'>

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face=3DArial><span =
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<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"blue">Hi Simeon</span></font><font =
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margin-left:40.8pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;
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color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tried it
and unfortunately when switching from one amp/effects patch to another =
it sent
the initial loop phrase thru the switched patch. The cyber-twin is your
standard clean/dirty dual channel amp which would probably work. I=92ll
experiment a bit more with the amp=92s set&nbsp; up. </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
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color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span =
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</span></font><font
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Howdy,

 I thought Dolby used a PPG computer from Tangerine dream's light system to trigger simmons modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and later albums?
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
>  I thought Dolby used a PPG computer from Tangerine dream's light system =
to
> trigger simmons modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and later albums?
> Rig
>
>
Ha ha!! You cant pull the wool over anyone at LD!!!

It was a rough guess!! The Linn being the "sound" of the 80=B4s. I just pic=
ked
a random 80=B4s sounding star! I had NO IDEA whether Thomas Dolby had used =
a
Linn!

TBH, I never like the sound of the Linn... or how it was used at least. Tha=
t
huge snare... YIKES.. but I do hear touches of it creeping into some of my
mixes from then too.. Even the alternative side of the 80s had HUGE
snares... Sisters of Mercy or Killing Joke or Bauhaus, both great bands fro=
m
my memory.. HUGE SNARES!!!

ps I suppose its pretty easy to see from that list what colour clothes I
wore in the 80s?? (still do Im afraid...

Mark

--=20
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On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, bill bigrig <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com">billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">

Howdy,<br>
<br>
=A0I thought Dolby used a PPG computer from Tangerine dream&#39;s light sys=
tem to trigger simmons modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and later albums?<b=
r>
Rig<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Ha ha!! You cant pull the wool over anyone at LD!=
!! <br>
<br>
It was a rough guess!! The Linn being the &quot;sound&quot; of the 80=B4s. =
I just=20
picked a random 80=B4s sounding star! I had NO IDEA whether Thomas Dolby=20
had used a Linn!<br>=A0
<br></div></div>TBH, I never like the sound of the Linn... or how it was us=
ed at least. That huge snare... YIKES.. but I do hear touches of it creepin=
g into some of my mixes from then too.. Even the alternative side of the 80=
s had HUGE snares... Sisters of Mercy or Killing Joke or Bauhaus, both grea=
t bands from my memory.. HUGE SNARES!!! <br>

<br>ps I suppose its pretty easy to see from that list what colour clothes =
I wore in the 80s?? (still do Im afraid...<br><br>Mark<br clear=3D"all"><br=
>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.mark=
francombe.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @ma=
rkfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/use=
r825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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I still like how Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come was the first rock band =20
ever to use a drum machine entirely, rather than a real drummer. It =20
was something called a "Bentley Rhythm Ace" drum machine.  (some band =20=

has now adopted that as their name) This was on his band's album =20
"Journey" (1972) which was also one of the earlier rock bands ever to =20=

use synthesizers, along with Mellotron, and even a Theremin.  But =20
then again, Arthur has always been a brilliant and innovative =20
performer, and a visionary, and still is..... :-)
(still active today and after over 43 years, if not longer. That =20
voice has only aged gracefully, like a very fine wine.)

I just read about another underrated genius, Raymond Scott, who =20
invented his own drum machine in 1962 and called it "Bandito the =20
Bongo Artist".  Har!  Great!
(Scott also built sequencers in the late 50s-very early 60's, and was =20=

the original father of the concept of MIDI way back then, as well. =20
Sad how most people still do not know about him)

I still have my old Gulbransen drum machine, made by the Gulbransen =20
Organ Company, that I purchased at a pawn shop YEARS ago. It was =20
probably made in the *very early* 70's,
if not even earlier.  No MIDI here or triggers here, of course.  The =20
sounds?  Think: "Sober Reptiles" (and more) by Eno from the album =20
"Another Green World". :-)

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR

On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> =20=

> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>  I thought Dolby used a PPG computer from Tangerine dream's light =20
> system to trigger simmons modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and =20
> later albums?
> Rig
>
>
> Ha ha!! You cant pull the wool over anyone at LD!!!
>
> It was a rough guess!! The Linn being the "sound" of the 80=B4s. I =20
> just picked a random 80=B4s sounding star! I had NO IDEA whether =20
> Thomas Dolby had used a Linn!
>
> TBH, I never like the sound of the Linn... or how it was used at =20
> least. That huge snare... YIKES.. but I do hear touches of it =20
> creeping into some of my mixes from then too.. Even the alternative =20=

> side of the 80s had HUGE snares... Sisters of Mercy or Killing Joke =20=

> or Bauhaus, both great bands from my memory.. HUGE SNARES!!!
>
> ps I suppose its pretty easy to see from that list what colour =20
> clothes I wore in the 80s?? (still do Im afraid...
>
> Mark
>
> --=20
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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I still like how Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come was the first rock band =
ever to use a drum machine entirely, rather than a real drummer. It was =
something called a "Bentley Rhythm Ace" drum machine. &nbsp;(some band =
has now adopted that as their name)&nbsp;This was on his band's album =
"Journey" (1972) which was also one of the earlier rock bands ever to =
use synthesizers, along with Mellotron, and even a Theremin. &nbsp;But =
then again, Arthur has always been a brilliant and innovative performer, =
and a visionary, and still is..... :-) &nbsp;&nbsp;<div>(still active =
today and after over 43 years, if not longer. That voice has only aged =
gracefully, like a very fine wine.)<div><br></div><div>I&nbsp;just read =
about another underrated genius, Raymond Scott, who invented his own =
drum machine in 1962 and called it "Bandito the Bongo Artist". =
&nbsp;Har! &nbsp;Great!</div><div>(Scott also built sequencers in the =
late 50s-very early 60's, and was the original father of the concept of =
MIDI way back then, as well. Sad how most people still do not know about =
him)</div><div><br></div><div><div>I&nbsp;still have my old Gulbransen =
drum machine, made by the&nbsp;Gulbransen Organ Company, that I =
purchased at a pawn shop YEARS ago. It was probably made in the *very =
early* 70's,</div><div>if not even earlier. &nbsp;No MIDI here or =
triggers here, of course. &nbsp;The sounds? &nbsp;Think: "Sober =
Reptiles" (and more) by Eno from the album "Another Green World". =
:-)</div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Rev. =
Fever</div><div>Portland,OR</div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 10, 2010, at =
6:38 AM, mark francombe wrote:</div><div><div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Tue, =
Aug 10, 2010 at 3:30 PM, bill bigrig <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com">billbigrig@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Howdy,<br> <br> &nbsp;I thought Dolby used a =
PPG computer from Tangerine dream's light system to trigger simmons =
modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and later albums?<br> Rig<br> =
<br></blockquote><div><br>Ha ha!! You cant pull the wool over anyone at =
LD!!! <br> <br> It was a rough guess!! The Linn being the "sound" of the =
80=B4s. I just picked a random 80=B4s sounding star! I had NO IDEA =
whether Thomas Dolby had used a Linn!<br>&nbsp; <br></div></div>TBH, I =
never like the sound of the Linn... or how it was used at least. That =
huge snare... YIKES.. but I do hear touches of it creeping into some of =
my mixes from then too.. Even the alternative side of the 80s had HUGE =
snares... Sisters of Mercy or Killing Joke or Bauhaus, both great bands =
from my memory.. HUGE SNARES!!! <br> <br>ps I suppose its pretty easy to =
see from that list what colour clothes I wore in the 80s?? (still do Im =
afraid...<br><br>Mark<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br> <a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter =
@markfrancombe<br><a =
href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a=
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href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br></blockquote></div=
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>  I thought Dolby used a PPG computer from Tangerine dream's light system to trigger simmons modules. Was the linn on his 2nd and later albums?
> Rig
>   
Speaking of PPG: Waldorf's Attack is also worth mentioning (although 
it's not a drum machine, rather a drum synthesizer).
http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/products/attack

And here's an example of a bass drum sound done with it:
http://soundcloud.com/moinlabs/matt-stevens-snow-pt-3-remix-by-rainer-straschill

(The track is a remix of a tune by our Matt Stevens).

          Rainer

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Gig spam follows:

Stone Document will be returning to the Lower East Side on Friday, 8/13/10
at the R-Bar (218 Bowery betw Prince & Spring Sts., 212-334-0484).

9 pm

$10 admission - 21+ w/ID (and don't forget to tell 'em your there for Stone
Doc (a.k.a. Stoney Levin).

I know for a fact there will be a Boomerang and an M9 looping away.

For further info: http://twistedapplerecords.com/AboutStoneDoc.html and
www.rbarnyc.com or even
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=147267478623468&ref=mf

We now return to your regularly scheduled SoftStep updates...

m

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I thought many of you would enjoy this.  Music and visuals generated by the
musicians heartbeats.

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1662026/orchestra-uses-own-heartbeats-to-create-music-and-visuals?partner=homepage_newsletter

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I recently upgraded from my 5-year-old single core desktop to a Dell =
Studio
XPS i7 running Windows 7 64-bit (got a great price from CowBoom on Ebay:
http://stores.ebay.com/CowBoom )

=20

I upgraded specifically so I could edit HD video and as you can imagine =
that
was quite a difference from my old computer! It's been 3 months and I've =
had
no regrets or issues.

=20

One thing I don't think anyone mentioned yet is that in order to fully =
take
advantage of the 64-bit operating system you should run 64-bit =
applications
whenever possible. Most programs will still be 32-bit.and they will =
still
work quite well of course.But applications that are 64-bit are best, and
will take full advantage of all your CPU cores and RAM in a 64-bit =
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-Nathan

=20

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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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=20

I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I =
only
use a computer for recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream =
uses.
I am not looping with it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD
Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees" =
3.25
gigs.

=20

Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also
anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?

=20

thanks,

=20

Jeff

=20

=20

http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
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http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
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mentioned yet is that in order to fully take advantage of the 64-bit =
operating
system you should run 64-bit applications whenever possible. Most =
programs will
still be 32-bit&#8230;and they will still work quite well of =
course&#8230;But applications
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cores
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[mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com]
<br>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Friday, August
 06, 2010</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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AM</span></font><font size=3D2
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Windows 7 =
issues/</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I&nbsp;am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) =
from my
faithful XP. I only use a computer for recording/post production and for
Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop =
machine.
Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram although XP 32 =
bit only
&quot;sees&quot; 3.25 gigs.</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to =
worry
about? Also anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?</span></font></p>

</div>

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br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke</a><=
br>
<a =
href=3D"http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive">http://livestream.com/jeffduk=
elive</a><br>
<a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace">http://www.myspace.com/=
loopsinphasespace</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://usit.bandcamp.com/">http://usit.bandcamp.com/</a><br>
<a =
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Go to your BIOS/Setup options - perhaps under CPU options? - and enable =
all four cores.  You'll enjoy the speed difference!


From: Nathan Lang=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:55 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: RE: Windows 7 issues/


I recently upgraded from my 5-year-old single core desktop to a Dell =
Studio XPS i7 running Windows 7 64-bit (got a great price from CowBoom =
on Ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/CowBoom )



I upgraded specifically so I could edit HD video and as you can imagine =
that was quite a difference from my old computer! It's been 3 months and =
I've had no regrets or issues.



One thing I don't think anyone mentioned yet is that in order to fully =
take advantage of the 64-bit operating system you should run 64-bit =
applications whenever possible. Most programs will still be 32-bit.and =
they will still work quite well of course.But applications that are =
64-bit are best, and will take full advantage of all your CPU cores and =
RAM in a 64-bit system.



-Nathan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Duke [mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 9:06 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Windows 7 issues/



I am thinking of moving to Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I =
only use a computer for recording/post production and for =
Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not looping with it and this is a desktop =
machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core 6400+. 4 gigs ram =
although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 gigs.



Are there still issues with drivers etc. Anything to worry about? Also =
anything on 32 bit vs 64 bit?



thanks,



Jeff





http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
http://livestream.com/jeffdukelive
http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dnathan@significantimagery.com=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope=
rs-delight.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: Windows 7 issues/</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I recently =
upgraded=20
from my 5-year-old single core desktop to a Dell Studio XPS i7 running =
Windows 7=20
64-bit (got a great price from CowBoom on Ebay: <A=20
href=3D"http://stores.ebay.com/CowBoom">http://stores.ebay.com/CowBoom</A=
>=20
)</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I upgraded =
specifically=20
so I could edit HD video and as you can imagine that was quite a =
difference from=20
my old computer! It=92s been 3 months and I=92ve had no regrets or=20
issues.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">One thing I =
don=92t think=20
anyone mentioned yet is that in order to fully take advantage of the =
64-bit=20
operating system you should run 64-bit applications whenever possible. =
Most=20
programs will still be 32-bit=85and they will still work quite well of =
course=85But=20
applications that are 64-bit are best, and will take full advantage of =
all your=20
CPU cores and </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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color=3Dnavy size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> in a 64-bit=20
system.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Jeff Duke=20
[mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Friday, August=20
06, 2010</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3DTahoma><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">9:06=20
AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Windows 7=20
issues/</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I&nbsp;am thinking of =
moving to=20
Windows 7 (64 bit?) from my faithful XP. I only use a computer for=20
recording/post production and for Ninjam/Livestream uses. I am not =
looping with=20
it and this is a desktop machine. Currently a AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core =
6400+. 4=20
gigs ram although XP 32 bit only "sees" 3.25 =
gigs.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Are there still issues =
with drivers=20
etc. Anything to worry about? Also anything on 32 bit vs 64=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN=20
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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href=3D"http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/">http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/</A><=
BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke">http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke</A><=
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loopsinphasespace</A><BR><A=20
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Hello Loopers, 

      Steve Uccello (Uccello Project) here just mentioning the 'Boss 2010 Looping Contest' which I heard about through the great bass website 'No Treble.com' 

http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2010/08/09/boss-wants-your-bass-for-the-loop-station-world-championship-contest/

and, also letting you know that I entered the contest with this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXfYh-F1whU

I'm sure a lot of us feel these contests are kind of silly, and I'm sure most of you have probably already heard about this a while ago, but just wanted to give a heads up about my entry, the contest, and the site 'No Treble'.  I hope you're all doing well! Steve Uccello

www.steveuccello.com


      

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Nathan Lang schrieb:
> One thing I don’t think anyone mentioned yet is that in order to fully 
> take advantage of the 64-bit operating system you should run 64-bit 
> applications whenever possible. Most programs will still be 32-bit…and 
> they will still work quite well of course…But applications that are 
> 64-bit are best, and will take full advantage of all your CPU cores 
> and RAM in a 64-bit system.
There is no relationship between an application being 64bit and its use 
of multi-core/multiprocessor architectures.
One thing to note, however, is that pre-Windows 7 versions of Windows 
will lead to reduction in performance running hyperthreading-enabled 
cpus (such as Gulftown, Lynnfield, Bloomfield an Clarksdale), so if 
you're running Vista or XP, other processors (e.g. Arrandale) may 
perform faster with non-multicore apps although "by spec" they should be 
slower.

The newer architectures (Nehalem and followups) also enhance on running 
non-multicore apps via their frequency binning - also worth noticing.

-- 
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Ah, thanks for the clarification!

I think I made that assumption incorrectly since I am using Adobe Premiere
CS5 which is a native 64-bit application and I knew it was specifically
optimized for 64-bit systems. 

Looking back, I see that the previous version (Premiere CS4) was also
optimized for 64-bit operating systems even though that version was not
actually a native 64-bit application.

-Nathan Lang


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Nathan Lang schrieb:
> One thing I don't think anyone mentioned yet is that in order to fully 
> take advantage of the 64-bit operating system you should run 64-bit 
> applications whenever possible. Most programs will still be 32-bit.and 
> they will still work quite well of course.But applications that are 
> 64-bit are best, and will take full advantage of all your CPU cores 
> and RAM in a 64-bit system.
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cpus (such as Gulftown, Lynnfield, Bloomfield an Clarksdale), so if 
you're running Vista or XP, other processors (e.g. Arrandale) may 
perform faster with non-multicore apps although "by spec" they should be 
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The newer architectures (Nehalem and followups) also enhance on running 
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some news:

MIX:
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d-sales-gets-dangerous/


EM:
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http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richar=
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Mi2N:
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richard sales
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www.richardsales.com
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so sweet!

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>wrote:

> some news:
>
> *MIX:*
>
> http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>
>
> *EM:*
>
> http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>
>
> *Mi2N:*
> http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=132868
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
>
>
>
>


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so sweet!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 P=
M, richard sales <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richard@glasswing.=
com">richard@glasswing.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>some news:</div><div><br></div><di=
v><b>MIX:</b></div><div><a href=3D"http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2=
010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/" target=3D"_blank=
">http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richa=
rd-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>EM:</b></div><div><a href=3D"http://b=
log.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-g=
ets-dangerous/" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/20=
10/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Mi2N:</b></div><div><a href=3D"http:/=
/mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868" target=3D"_blank">http://mi2n.com/p=
ress.php3?press_nb=3D132868</a></div><div><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"=
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<div><font face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font color=3D"#90=
8E38"><a href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com" target=3D"_blank">www.glasswing.=
com</a></font></div><div><font color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.rich=
ardsales.com" target=3D"_blank">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com" target=
=3D"_blank">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><div><font color=3D"#908E38=
"><br></font></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></=
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br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---Miles Ward<br>

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=20
Another LOOP !!  This time I have added a rhythm track created on... The Ip=
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eird sounds in Hexatone=2Crecorded some loops on the Iphone and imported it=
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
month-long Special Focus on computerchemist.  The Featured CD at
Midnight will be "icon one" by computerchemist on terrainflight
Records.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug

You will also hear the new album from Meesha and the latest releases
from the Groove Unlimited.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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of interest???

Boss Loop Station World Championship
Now through Aug. 31, upload a video performance using any Boss RC-Series =
Looper to YouTube that is 5 minutes or less with a title that starts =
with "BOSS Loop Contest 2010" and fill out the entry form at =
www.bossus.com/go/loop_station. The top six entries will advance to the =
finals, to be judged Oct. 23. First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and a =
trip to the international championship at Winter NAMM 2011.=20


richard sales
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www.richardsales.com
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On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, miles ward wrote:

> so sweet!
>=20
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, richard sales =
<richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> some news:
>=20
> MIX:
> =
http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richar=
d-sales-gets-dangerous/
>=20
>=20
> EM:
> =
http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richar=
d-sales-gets-dangerous/
>=20
>=20
> Mi2N:
> http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868
>=20
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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> ---Miles Ward


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class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></span><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Now through Aug. 31, upload a video =
performance using any Boss RC-Series Looper to YouTube that is 5 minutes =
or less with a title that starts with "BOSS Loop Contest 2010" and fill =
out the entry form at&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; "><a =
href=3D"http://ct.pbinews.com/rd/cts?d=3D94-16200-940-1311-16267-3359365-0=
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font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">www.bossus.com/go/loop_station</a></span><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">. The top six entries will advance to =
the finals, to be judged Oct. 23. First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and =
a trip to the international championship at Winter NAMM =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
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face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><=
font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>=
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><d=
iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#908E38"><br></font></div><div><br></div></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<br><div><div>On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, miles ward wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">so =
sweet!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 =
PM, richard sales <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:richard@glasswing.com">richard@glasswing.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>some =
news:</div><div><br></div><div><b>MIX:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-enginee=
r-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/produc=
er-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>EM:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-enginee=
r-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/produc=
er-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Mi2N:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868" =
target=3D"_blank">http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868</a></div><d=
iv><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>

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ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
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style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div><font face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><br></font></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></spa=
n></div></span></div></span></div>
</span></div></span></div></span></span></div><font size=3D"3"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12px"><br></span></font></font></div></blockquote></div=
><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---Miles Ward<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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Richard, 

Not being a Boss LoopStation user I wasn't too interested in that contest thingy.

But I did find it interesting to read the articles at the 3 links below it concerning your use of Dangerous Music gear.

Boy, I wish I had an excuse to come up your way and learn a thing or two from you sometime.

Not likely to happen . . . but nevertheless, kudus to you for the good press your studio's gettin'.

Cheers,

Ted

On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, miles ward wrote:

> so sweet!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
> some news:
> 
> MIX:
> http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
> 
> 
> EM:
> http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
> 
> 
> Mi2N:
> http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=132868
> 
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ---Miles Ward


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Pity it has to be a Boss

--and Boss gear for prizes :-(

I'm looking forward to seeing the crazy and creative loopage that  
comes out of this, though!

On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:15 AM, richard sales wrote:

> of interest???
>
> Boss Loop Station World Championship
> Now through Aug. 31, upload a video performance using any Boss RC- 
> Series Looper to YouTube that is 5 minutes or less with a title that  
> starts with "BOSS Loop Contest 2010" and fill out the entry form at www.bossus.com/go/loop_station 
> . The top six entries will advance to the finals, to be judged Oct.  
> 23. First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and a trip to the  
> international championship at Winter NAMM 2011.
>
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:02 PM, miles ward wrote:
>
>> so sweet!
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com 
>> > wrote:
>> some news:
>>
>> MIX:
>> http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>>
>>
>> EM:
>> http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>>
>>
>> Mi2N:
>> http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=132868
>>
>> richard sales
>> www.glasswing.com
>> www.richardsales.com
>> www.hayleysales.com
>>
>>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Pity it has to be a =
Boss&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>--and Boss gear for prizes =
:-(</div><div><br></div><div>I'm looking forward to seeing the crazy and =
creative loopage that comes out of this, =
though!</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:15 AM, richard =
sales wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">of interest???</span><div><span =
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></span><span =
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font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">Boss Loop Station World Championship</a></span><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></span><span =
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Now through Aug. 31, upload a video =
performance using any Boss RC-Series Looper to YouTube that is 5 minutes =
or less with a title that starts with "BOSS Loop Contest 2010" and fill =
out the entry form at&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">. The top six entries will advance to =
the finals, to be judged Oct. 23. First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and =
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Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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after-white-space; "><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Arial">richard sales</font></div><div><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><=
font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div>=
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><d=
iv><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
color=3D"#908E38"><br></font></div><div><br></div></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br><div><div>On Aug 12, =
2010, at 1:02 PM, miles ward wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">so =
sweet!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 =
PM, richard sales <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:richard@glasswing.com">richard@glasswing.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>some =
news:</div><div><br></div><div><b>MIX:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-enginee=
r-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/produc=
er-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div> =
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>EM:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-enginee=
r-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/produc=
er-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/</a></div> =
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Mi2N:</b></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868" =
target=3D"_blank">http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=3D132868</a></div><d=
iv><br></div><font color=3D"#888888"><div> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ali=
gn:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <span =
style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, =
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"> <div><font face=3D"Arial">richard =
sales</font></div><div><font color=3D"#908E38"><a =
href=3D"http://www.glasswing.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.glasswing.com</a></font></div><div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.richardsales.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.richardsales.com</a></font></div> <div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><a href=3D"http://www.hayleysales.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.hayleysales.com</a></font></div><div><font =
color=3D"#908E38"><br></font></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></spa=
n></div></span></div></span></div> =
</span></div></span></div></span></span></div><font size=3D"3"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12px"><br></span></font></font></div></blockquote></div=
><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>---Miles Ward<br> =
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></h=
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Hi,

A couple of EDP questions for you. I just got an EDP off the bay. It  
arrived with one of the rack ears bent and something rattling around  
inside. Also it came with Loop 3 instead of the latest version like  
promised.

Kinda frustrating when this happens.

Here's what I don't recall from using an EDP in the past.

1.	I tried doing a bit of recording with it and the volume of a  
recorded loop slowly fades to nothing after about a minute.

2.	Also clicking the Next Loop button doesn't do anything. No LEDs  
light up.

Operator error or have a got a hardware problem?

Philip


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Actually, I don't know much about drum machines when it comes to
making rhythms with them. When I try to make rhythms with mine, there
are a few ways it comes up short. I think a software drum machine (or
an MPC sampler) would be superior in this regard.

Very recently I've been experimenting with building rhythms from
scratch in my DR-770 in real time during performances. The walls I'm
hitting are:
--I'd like to use multiple "kits" at the same time (more than 32
distinct sounds per rhythm)
--Every time you hit "record" on a currently blank rhythm, the drum
machine "forgets" what drum kit you had it on. So you have to waste 10
seconds or so dialing it up again.
--The drum machine assigns a maximum amount of memory PER RHYTHM. So
if you have more than a certain # of hits, it stops entirely and says
"Pattern full!". This really sucks in the middle of a show. Especially
for someone who likes to build in 12 or 16 beat measures.

Still there is some good stuff. There's a "beat correction" option
that fixes your timing errors - I like it as a compositional tool.
Also, it's fun to have a rhythm built, and then scan through different
kits as it plays.

For performances, I usually recommend AGAINST using a drum machine.
I've yet to see a show with a drum machine playing pre-composed
rhythms, where I didn't think the show would've been better without
the drum machine. (No beats is better than canned beats.) The
exceptions are building the rhythms from scratch in the show, or
chopping them up in real time as part of the performance.


-- 
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Rick Walker schrieb:
>>
>> With a phenomenal virtual drum machine (and DAW) like FL Studio Pro
>> (formerly Fruity Loops)
>> you cannot own a better drum machine.
>
> (waiting for Matt Davignon to disagree any moment now...)
>
> --
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>
>

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Hi,

I'm working through my little problem here. I figured out that the  
volume fading was due to the feedback knob being at noon instead of  
all the way on.

Still no joy with the Next Loop button or LED.

Sorry to flood your boxes with stuff like this.

Philip


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Have you got MORE LOOPS set to er.... more than ONE loop?

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:33 AM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm working through my little problem here. I figured out that the volume
> fading was due to the feedback knob being at noon instead of all the way on.
>
> Still no joy with the Next Loop button or LED.
>
> Sorry to flood your boxes with stuff like this.
>
> Philip
>
>
>


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Have you got MORE LOOPS set to er.... more than ONE loop?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:33 AM,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m working through my little problem here. I figured out that the volume fading was due to the feedback knob being at noon instead of all the way on.<br>
<br>
Still no joy with the Next Loop button or LED.<br>
<br>
Sorry to flood your boxes with stuff like this.<br>
<br>
Philip<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br>

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Hello all,

Another frustrating evening in Mobius / Live (again saved by Per... why cant
he just be a 25 hour call center.. oh.. wait.. HE IS!!! Thx Per)..

Now , me running a odd setup, for my pedal Im going into an old midiman 2x2
midi interface, and for audio into an MAudioOzone.. now the ADVANTAGE of the
Ozone is that I have some knobs and a keyboard available in Live.. the
disadvantage is that there is no midi IN.. I know.. odd. So I cannot plug
the FCB1010 into it and have all external stuff on 1 USB, I must use 2
sockets, therfor no more USB for a mouse, (and I HATE to use the trackpad).

So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION. And
I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely forgoton
who made it. Here is a description.

It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT TO
THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob
biggest clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio
in levels.

Anyone recognize this mother? And If so, have opinions on it...

I was attracted to it, mostly for Feng Shui reasons I admit..

Mark

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Hello all,<br><br>Another frustrating evening in Mobius / Live (again saved=
 by Per... why cant he just be a 25 hour call center.. oh.. wait.. HE IS!!!=
 Thx Per)..<br><br>Now , me running a odd setup, for my pedal Im going into=
 an old midiman 2x2 midi interface, and for audio into an MAudioOzone.. now=
 the ADVANTAGE of the Ozone is that I have some knobs and a keyboard availa=
ble in Live.. the disadvantage is that there is no midi IN.. I know.. odd. =
So I cannot plug the FCB1010 into it and have all external stuff on 1 USB, =
I must use 2 sockets, therfor no more USB for a mouse, (and I HATE to use t=
he trackpad).<br>

<br>So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION.=
 And I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely forg=
oton who made it. Here is a description.<br><br>It was BLACK, its keys ( I =
think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EDGE, of the enclosure=
, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob biggest clue) it had a pair of =
kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio in levels.<br>

<br>Anyone recognize this mother? And If so, have opinions on it... <br><br=
>I was attracted to it, mostly for Feng Shui reasons I admit..<br><br>Mark<=
br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @ma=
rkfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/use=
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Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete&nbsp; (and
in my estimation, successfully) with <br>
the Boss line of products and&nbsp; given the number of world class live
looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, <br>
I think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this
competition an " international championship".<br>
<br>
Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to
hosting a true and fair international competition <br>
for live looping that included loopers (and judges) using other
manufacturers of live looping gear, both hardware <br>
and software.<br>
<br>
Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with
anyone else here?<br>
<br>
*******<br>
<br>
That kvetch&nbsp; said and done,&nbsp; I don't mean to be merely negative:<br>
<br>
I truly really wish the very best of luck to everyone from this list
who enters the contest.<br>
I hope you do really well.<br>
<br>
rick walker<br>
<br>
<blockquote
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First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and a trip to the international
championship at Winter NAMM 2011.</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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Rick Walker wrote:
> Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete  (and 
> in my estimation, successfully) with
> the Boss line of products and  given the number of world class live 
> looping artists who don't even use Boss gear,
> I think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this 
> competition an " international championship".
> 
> Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to 
> hosting a true and fair international competition
> for live looping that included loopers (and judges) using other 
> manufacturers of live looping gear, both hardware
> and software.
> 
> Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with 
> anyone else here?
> 

Roland/Boss have always been more about the hype than the product.
It's pretty easy to spot that their products are spec'ed by a
marketing department (with very heavy handed help from the finance dept.). 
No surprise to see them pretending they're the only act in town again.

On the other hand, can you blame them if people accept their posturing
as fact? after all they're only a business trying to make a profit in a
world where hype is an acceptable norm.

Let's face it, they *could* sponsor events that gave an equal opportunity
for people to see equipment made by other manufacturers in action.
...but then who would buy their overpriced products?
The extra funds they glean by putting cheap electrical components into
devices that claim "professional quality" are channelled towards making
people believe their over optimistic claims for those devices....
....it's clearly a very successful strategy.


andy butler
...that's the thing with resonance...doesn't take much to set it
off and it goes on and on :-)





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At 9:54 AM +0200 8/13/10, mark francombe wrote:
>
>So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE 
>SOLUTION. And I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have 
>completely forgoton who made it. Here is a description.
>
>It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY 
>OUT TO THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. 
>and (prob biggest clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU 
>meters, for the audio in levels.

Perhaps this: http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/

Line 6 Pod Studio KB37.

Can't tell you much else about it, but I likewise remembered the styling....

	--m.
-- 
_____
"we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide"

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Brilliant!!

I'm starting to vaguely recall how this works...switching between the  
Parameter menus and all. I just set it to four loops. And YES, the  
NEXT LOOP LED is lit up.

Thanks Mark!

...
On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:32 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> Have you got MORE LOOPS set to er.... more than ONE loop?
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:33 AM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm working through my little problem here. I figured out that the  
> volume fading was due to the feedback knob being at noon instead of  
> all the way on.
>
> Still no joy with the Next Loop button or LED.
>
> Sorry to flood your boxes with stuff like this.
>
> Philip
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no


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Matt Davignon wrote:

"For performances, I usually recommend AGAINST using a drum machine.
I've yet to see a show with a drum machine playing pre-composed
rhythms, where I didn't think the show would've been better without
the drum machine. (No beats is better than canned beats)."


It's funny Matt, but as a professional drummer, I'm supposed to be the guy 
who really hates drum machines,  especially,  repeating one or two bar static grooves 
but, in fact,  I love it when people are really creative about using static drum machine parts.

For some reason,  I love that this approach is not human..............that it is static 
and artificial.

In fact,  I've found that the more minimalistic a drum machine part is and the louder 
it is in the mix,  the more interesting I find it in the composition.  A drum beat with no 
variation doesn't have a lot of natural 'energy' so I find that you can actually add some energy 
by calling attention to the fact that it IS static and unchanging.

Also,  by having only a single bar length (or possibly two) and by being extremely minimal 
it actively engages the mind of the listener to 'contribute' rhythm to a piece in much the same 
way that an incredibly simple but funky bass line can sometimes make people 'hear' other syncopations 
in a part.   Faced with abject minimalism from a sensory standpoint,  the human brain 'makes up' things.
Sometimes, in this way,  having only one single 16th note offbeat in a two bar rhythm of otherwise 
8th note grooves (any of Parliament/Funkadelic's drummers) can actually be a much funkier approach than putting in a zillion offbeats (David Garibaldi style).

Also, the juxtaposition of the different kinds of artificial timbres that are possible 
with a drum machine (especially analogue and synthetic/found sounds) playing a one bar loop, 
and the fact that it's feel is so rigid 
and mechanical with real and expressive and nuanced playing that one could never get from even a 
cleverly programmed drum machine by a human being makes for a really delicious set of possibilities.

If it's done cleverly, aesthetically, and extremely minimally I think it lends 
a kind of energy to a piece that rivals just pure playing.

But then, again,  statically playing repetitive interlocking grooves is precisely 
why I love live looping.

I was telling Mogli (Eric DeArantanha) during a Rhythm Intensive lesson today,  that though I appreciate 
the use of feedback in many loopers performances that I still haven't run out of ideas using 
the mere stacking and processing and dubbing of static, feedback-less parts (my brother, Matthias Grob 
is now rolling in his grave,  and he's still living).

 I guess that what makes art so compelling is that there is a lot of room 
for all different kinds of passions and approaches to making music.

I sure love what you do,  my friend.    That's a fact, for sure.

yours,   Rick Walker

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Congratulations, Richard.

Very nice and informative article.

-- Kevin


Quoting miles ward <miles932@gmail.com>:

> so sweet!
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>wrote:
>
>> some news:
>>
>> *MIX:*
>>
>> http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>>
>>
>> *EM:*
>>
>> http://blog.emusician.com/briefingroom/2010/08/11/producer-engineer-richard-sales-gets-dangerous/
>>
>>
>> *Mi2N:*
>> http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=132868
>>
>> richard sales
>> www.glasswing.com
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ---Miles Ward
>



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One of my all-time favorite rhythm tracks is the one on Karma Coma  
(Massive Attack/Tricky). Monotonous, but HUGE and immensely powerful.

That said, I'm wondering if working with samples instead of a drum  
machine may be better for live performances...


On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

> Matt Davignon wrote:
>
> "For performances, I usually recommend AGAINST using a drum machine.
> I've yet to see a show with a drum machine playing pre-composed
> rhythms, where I didn't think the show would've been better without
> the drum machine. (No beats is better than canned beats)."
>
>
> It's funny Matt, but as a professional drummer, I'm supposed to be  
> the guy who really hates drum machines,  especially,  repeating one  
> or two bar static grooves but, in fact,  I love it when people are  
> really creative about using static drum machine parts.
>
> For some reason,  I love that this approach is not  
> human..............that it is static and artificial.
>
> In fact,  I've found that the more minimalistic a drum machine part  
> is and the louder it is in the mix,  the more interesting I find it  
> in the composition.  A drum beat with no variation doesn't have a  
> lot of natural 'energy' so I find that you can actually add some  
> energy by calling attention to the fact that it IS static and  
> unchanging.
>
> Also,  by having only a single bar length (or possibly two) and by  
> being extremely minimal it actively engages the mind of the listener  
> to 'contribute' rhythm to a piece in much the same way that an  
> incredibly simple but funky bass line can sometimes make people  
> 'hear' other syncopations in a part.   Faced with abject minimalism  
> from a sensory standpoint,  the human brain 'makes up' things.
> Sometimes, in this way,  having only one single 16th note offbeat in  
> a two bar rhythm of otherwise 8th note grooves (any of Parliament/ 
> Funkadelic's drummers) can actually be a much funkier approach than  
> putting in a zillion offbeats (David Garibaldi style).
>
> Also, the juxtaposition of the different kinds of artificial timbres  
> that are possible with a drum machine (especially analogue and  
> synthetic/found sounds) playing a one bar loop, and the fact that  
> it's feel is so rigid and mechanical with real and expressive and  
> nuanced playing that one could never get from even a cleverly  
> programmed drum machine by a human being makes for a really  
> delicious set of possibilities.
>
> If it's done cleverly, aesthetically, and extremely minimally I  
> think it lends a kind of energy to a piece that rivals just pure  
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>
> But then, again,  statically playing repetitive interlocking grooves  
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> I guess that what makes art so compelling is that there is a lot of  
> room for all different kinds of passions and approaches to making  
> music.
>
> I sure love what you do,  my friend.    That's a fact, for sure.
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:51 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We have the expanders working. I expect them to be 0-3 weeks after initial
> release. Price with cables and USB power supply (for standalone) will be
> $49.95.
>
> Price on SoftStep is $289. Sorry about that.


!!!

That's very impressive, Keith.

Competitors in the field of "high end foot pedals" run two to three times
that... http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-pricing.php

And your pedal seems cleverer and lighter.

I'm idly curious about the MIDI implementation, but I guess not really, as
everything goes through my computer these days...

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:51 PM, keith mc=
millen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keefer07@yahoo.com">keefer07=
@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Hi,<br>
<br>
We have the expanders working. I expect them to be 0-3 weeks after initial<=
br>
release. Price with cables and USB power supply (for standalone) will be $4=
9.95.<br>
<br>
Price on SoftStep is $289. Sorry about that.</blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>!!!</div><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s very impressive, Keith. =C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Competitors in the field of &quot;high end foot peda=
ls&quot; run two to three times that...=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.gordius.=
be/midi-footcontroller-pricing.php">http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroll=
er-pricing.php</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>And your pedal seems cleverer and lighter.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>I&#39;m idly curious about the MIDI implementation, but I gues=
s not really, as everything goes through my computer these days...</div>

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THATS THE BABY Mech!

Unfortunately... NO MIDI SOCKETS DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any other solutions anyone? Need keyboard, sound cards / knobs, AND MIDI IN
and OUT!!!! Is that too much to ask?

Mark



On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

> At 9:54 AM +0200 8/13/10, mark francombe wrote:
>
>>
>> So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION.
>> And I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely
>> forgoton who made it. Here is a description.
>>
>> It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT
>> TO THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob
>> biggest clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio
>> in levels.
>>
>
> Perhaps this: http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/
>
> Line 6 Pod Studio KB37.
>
> Can't tell you much else about it, but I likewise remembered the
> styling....
>
>        --m.
> --
> _____
> "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide"
>
>


-- 
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THATS THE BABY Mech!<br><br>Unfortunately... NO MIDI SOCKETS DAMN IT!!!!!!!=
!!!!!!!!!!<br><br>Any other solutions anyone? Need keyboard, sound cards / =
knobs, AND MIDI IN and OUT!!!! Is that too much to ask?<br><br>Mark<br><br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mech <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mech@m3ch.net">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0p=
t 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"=
>

<div class=3D"im">At 9:54 AM +0200 8/13/10, mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION. And=
 I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely forgoton=
 who made it. Here is a description.<br>
<br>
It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT TO=
 THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob bigg=
est clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio in l=
evels.<br>


</blockquote>
<br></div>
Perhaps this: <a href=3D"http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/</a><br>
<br>
Line 6 Pod Studio KB37.<br>
<br>
Can&#39;t tell you much else about it, but I likewise remembered the stylin=
g....<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;we&#39;re no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guid=
e&quot;<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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Novation X-station.

________________________________
From: markfrancombe@gmail.com [markfrancombe@gmail.com] On Behalf Of mark f=
rancombe [mark@markfrancombe.com]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:24 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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THATS THE BABY Mech!

Unfortunately... NO MIDI SOCKETS DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any other solutions anyone? Need keyboard, sound cards / knobs, AND MIDI IN=
 and OUT!!!! Is that too much to ask?

Mark



On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net<mailto:mech@m3ch.net>=
> wrote:
At 9:54 AM +0200 8/13/10, mark francombe wrote:

So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION. And=
 I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely forgoton=
 who made it. Here is a description.

It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT TO=
 THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob bigg=
est clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio in l=
evels.

Perhaps this: http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/

Line 6 Pod Studio KB37.

Can't tell you much else about it, but I likewise remembered the styling...=
.

       --m.
--
_____
"we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide"




--
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com<http://www.markfrancombe.com>
www.ordoabkhao.com<http://www.ordoabkhao.com>
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 13, 2010 9:24 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: OT: Mystery keyboard audio interface<br>
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<div>THATS THE BABY Mech!<br>
<br>
Unfortunately... NO MIDI SOCKETS DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>
<br>
Any other solutions anyone? Need keyboard, sound cards / knobs, AND MIDI IN=
 and OUT!!!! Is that too much to ask?<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mech <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mech@m3ch.net">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt;</span> =
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<br>
So looking for a new Soundcard/keyboard/midi interface IN ONE SOLUTION. And=
 I saw one... flash past one surfing evening.. but have completely forgoton=
 who made it. Here is a description.<br>
<br>
It was BLACK, its keys ( I think 3 octaves, or 2.5) were ALL THE WAY OUT TO=
 THE EDGE, of the enclosure, no framework taking ups space.. and (prob bigg=
est clue) it had a pair of kind old fashioned VU meters, for the audio in l=
evels.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Perhaps this: <a href=3D"http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://line6.com/podstudiokb37/</a><br>
<br>
Line 6 Pod Studio KB37.<br>
<br>
Can't tell you much else about it, but I likewise remembered the styling...=
.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--m.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide&qu=
ot;<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
mark francombe<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancomb=
e.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com<=
/a><br>
twitter @markfrancombe<br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/=
user825094</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><b=
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At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete 
>(and in my estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products 
>and given the number of world class live looping artists who don't 
>even use Boss gear, I think it's a little presumptuous to call the 
>finals of this competition an " international championship".
>
>Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to 
>hosting a true and fair international competition for live looping 
>that included loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live 
>looping gear, both hardware and software.
>
>Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with 
>anyone else here?

Well then, here's an idea...

		~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~

It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube. 
Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to 
screen these entries.

Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:

Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on 
Boss-only loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your 
Looperlative, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, 
DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape delays, 
Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... 
WHATEVER.

This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on 
YouTube: simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to 
guidelines so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter 
ALL of them into the contest.

Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against 
Boss' marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want 
to learn more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive 
education.  Use this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!

Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It 
may be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case 
you can help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. 
Additionally, the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and 
perhaps they'll finally start to pay attention.

We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, 
that this contest is by no means an "international championship", and 
that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping 
music.  Some of these people use Boss products.  Some use other 
products and tools in their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES 
WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not 
some group of clueless marketing hacks with an advertising budget 
trying to shill a product.

Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.

There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great people.

Let's show them!

	--mech.
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Buggers...last time they did something like this, you were allowed to 
use DD20s. This time it's only RC series...

richard sales schrieb:
> of interest???
>
> Boss Loop Station World Championship 
> <http://ct.pbinews.com/rd/cts?d=94-16200-940-1311-16267-3359364-0-0-0-1-1-365>

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mark francombe schrieb:
> THATS THE BABY Mech!
>
> Unfortunately... NO MIDI SOCKETS DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Any other solutions anyone? Need keyboard, sound cards / knobs, AND 
> MIDI IN and OUT!!!! Is that too much to ask?
http://www.cme-pro.com/en/product-detail.php?product_id=9

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Rick Walker wrote:
 
> though I appreciate the use of feedback in many loopers 
> performances that I still haven't run out of ideas using the mere 
> stacking and processing and dubbing of static, feedback-less parts (my 
> brother, Matthias Grob is now rolling in his grave,  and he's still 
> living).

There are actually very few people who use the feedback
control when playing rhythmic material.
Perhaps because it's all too easy for it to go 
out of time and sound bad, especially as the loop length gets
longer.

Generally I only use feedback control in a couple of situations

1) overdubbing swells onto a rhythmic loop till it disappears
2) quickly dipping the feedback while adding a short overdub
3) of course, it's handy for fade outs too.



andy

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:53:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com>
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Hi All,

A preset is the collection of the 10 key's worth of presets and how the 
navigation keys are configured. It is likely you will configure the nav diamond 
keys to recall presets and move decades. You can recall the presets from the 
SoftStep this way - I think most people will do this. But you can also recall 
presets for individual keys and also have the SoftStep respond to MIDI program 
changes if you have big setup and knows what you want the presets to be and can 
send to the SoftStep.

Manual is in draft form - maybe a week.

Thanks,

Keith
 Keith McMillen 
www.keithmcmillen.com 
www.beamfoundation.org 
"Music For A New Reason"



----- Original Message ----
From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 3:17:27 PM
Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Each key can have up to 6 outputs that can be notes, program changes, CC#'s,
> OSC.

Nice. BTW, all that is explained on the site and in the videos with
Barry Threw. However, something that is not explained anywhere is if
the "preset" handling happens on a full setup basis (as in "bank") or
just on a local pad basis. Barry just touches briefly on this in the
NAMM video by saying that "presets can be saved and recalled".

For us on this list a kind of deal breaker would be to know (1) if
recalling presets can be done on-the-fly while performing (as opposed
to having to load the SoftStep editor software in order to recall a
preset) and also (2) if presets of full ten pad setups can be handled.

Bottom line: In this product, WHAT EXACTLY IS "A PRESET"?


> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php

Well, that Reservation List form doesn't have a box for "country". I
added "Sweden" as a parenthesis inside the "city" box. Hope that will
do.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Correct on the Latency. 

MIDI Expansion module about 1ms faster when running in standalone mode. 

You get to set where "On" is for each key. With a switch you have to make it 
travel until it "clicks". So you can have the SoftStep key be very snappy - 
without falsies. 

I have been looping for 35 years (2 tape decks - ugh! ) and accurate is a must.
 Keith McMillen 
www.keithmcmillen.com 
www.beamfoundation.org 
"Music For A New Reason"



----- Original Message ----
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That sounds good.

Presumably by "driver of known latency" you mean
"driver latency + usb/firewire latency + A/D conversion time"?


How about the midi-module? 

andy butler

keith mcmillen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response 
>measurement) with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program that 
>compared the receipt of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and the USB MIDI 
>receipt of message. Results were consistently 3-5 ms. Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 
>2 Duo.
> 
> Keith  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org "Music For A 
>New Reason"
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
> 
> Great news,
> a lot of folks been waiting for this.
> 
> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
> (essential for loopers)
> 
> 
> Oh...and what about the price!
> 
> andy butler
> 
> ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
>   (they have a screensaver ;-)
>    
> keith mcmillen wrote:
>> Hi Everybody,
>> 
>> SoftSteps are soon to be here. We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep 
>>Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to 
>>customers before they arrive in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also 
>>including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep 
>>customers:
>> 
>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>> 
>>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>>       Expander.
>>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>>       airline-friendly.
>>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> Keith McMillen
>> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
>> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
>> "Music For A New Reason"
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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great news,
that's exactly what we wanted to hear

andy

keith mcmillen wrote:
> Correct on the Latency. 
> 
> MIDI Expansion module about 1ms faster when running in standalone mode. 
> 
> You get to set where "On" is for each key. With a switch you have to make it 
> travel until it "clicks". So you can have the SoftStep key be very snappy - 
> without falsies. 
> 
> I have been looping for 35 years (2 tape decks - ugh! ) and accurate is a must.
>  Keith McMillen 
> www.keithmcmillen.com 
> www.beamfoundation.org 
> "Music For A New Reason"
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 1:30:41 AM
> Subject: Re: SoftStep latency
> 
> That sounds good.
> 
> Presumably by "driver of known latency" you mean
> "driver latency + usb/firewire latency + A/D conversion time"?
> 
> 
> How about the midi-module? 
> 
> andy butler
> 
> keith mcmillen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response 
>> measurement) with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program that 
>> compared the receipt of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and the USB MIDI 
>> receipt of message. Results were consistently 3-5 ms. Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 
>> 2 Duo.
>>
>> Keith  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org "Music For A 
>> New Reason"
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
>>
>> Great news,
>> a lot of folks been waiting for this.
>>
>> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
>> (essential for loopers)
>>
>>
>> Oh...and what about the price!
>>
>> andy butler
>>
>> ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
>>   (they have a screensaver ;-)
>>    
>> keith mcmillen wrote:
>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>
>>> SoftSteps are soon to be here. We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep 
>>> Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to 
>>> customers before they arrive in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also 
>>> including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep 
>>> customers:
>>>
>>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>>>
>>>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>>>       Expander.
>>>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>>>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>>>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>>>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>>>       airline-friendly.
>>>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>>>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>>>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>>>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller available.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> Keith McMillen
>>> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
>>> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
>>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/100812.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #697                August 12, 2010.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on computerchemist.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "icon one" by computerchemist on
terrainflight Records.

I also played music by Modulator ESP who will appear at the Soundscapes
Concert Series on Sunday, September 5, at 8 pm.

computerchemist:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug
Modulator ESP: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html

PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
VA [Modulator ESP]   Tsunami              E-dition #10 (Groove)
Nattefrost           Draconian            Live in Germany 2008 & 2009
                                            (Groove)
Nattefrost           Winterland           Live in Germany 2008 & 2009
                                            (Groove)
Nattefrost           Nightfall            Live in Germany 2008 & 2009
                                            (Groove)
VA [Erik Siefert]    Cern                 E-Day 2010 (Groove)
Meesha               The Fourth State of  Within the Parallel (none)
                       Matter
The Tangent Project  soju                 Live on Star's End 0.24.08

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
computerchemist      icon one             icon one (terrainflight)
computerchemist      timethorns           icon one (terrainflight)
computerchemist      chaos theory         icon one (terrainflight)
computerchemist      icon zero            icon one (terrainflight)
computerchemist      the message          icon one (terrainflight)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
computerchemist.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be "landform" on
terrainflight Records.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT/GMT-4 on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and
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Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio
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Many thanks, Keith. As for me this was the last part of missing
information and I can now see that SoftStep will be excellent for me.
SoftStep totally owns the Behringer FCB1010. People - let's bring
gasoline and fry all our old FCB's on stage at Rick's loop fest in
October! That would be  awesome.... the ultimate way to celebrate the
birth of The Softstep.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> A preset is the collection of the 10 key's worth of presets and how the
> navigation keys are configured. It is likely you will configure the nav d=
iamond
> keys to recall presets and move decades. You can recall the presets from =
the
> SoftStep this way - I think most people will do this. But you can also re=
call
> presets for individual keys and also have the SoftStep respond to MIDI pr=
ogram
> changes if you have big setup and knows what you want the presets to be a=
nd can
> send to the SoftStep.
>
> Manual is in draft form - maybe a week.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
> =C2=A0Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 3:17:27 PM
> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrot=
e:
>> Each key can have up to 6 outputs that can be notes, program changes, CC=
#'s,
>> OSC.
>
> Nice. BTW, all that is explained on the site and in the videos with
> Barry Threw. However, something that is not explained anywhere is if
> the "preset" handling happens on a full setup basis (as in "bank") or
> just on a local pad basis. Barry just touches briefly on this in the
> NAMM video by saying that "presets can be saved and recalled".
>
> For us on this list a kind of deal breaker would be to know (1) if
> recalling presets can be done on-the-fly while performing (as opposed
> to having to load the SoftStep editor software in order to recall a
> preset) and also (2) if presets of full ten pad setups can be handled.
>
> Bottom line: In this product, WHAT EXACTLY IS "A PRESET"?
>
>
>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>
> Well, that Reservation List form doesn't have a box for "country". I
> added "Sweden" as a parenthesis inside the "city" box. Hope that will
> do.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>

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F*ck,   you are a genius!!!!    Great suggestion.    Let's do it!    
Seriously,   let's do this everyone.

Dustbunnies wrote:
>
> Well then, here's an idea...
>
>         ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>
> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube. 
> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to 
> screen these entries.
>
> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>
> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on 
> Boss-only loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your 
> Looperlative, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, 
> DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape delays, 
> Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.
>
> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on 
> YouTube: simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to 
> guidelines so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter 
> ALL of them into the contest.
>
> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against 
> Boss' marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to 
> learn more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive 
> education.  Use this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>
> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may 
> be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you 
> can help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. 
> Additionally, the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and 
> perhaps they'll finally start to pay attention.
>
> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, 
> that this contest is by no means an "international championship", and 
> that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping 
> music.  Some of these people use Boss products.  Some use other 
> products and tools in their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES 
> WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not 
> some group of clueless marketing hacks with an advertising budget 
> trying to shill a product.
>
> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>
> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great 
> people.
>
> Let's show them!
>
>     --mech.

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totally ready to fry my fcb

dreading lugging it around europe next month with all the baby gear...


On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> People - let's bring
> gasoline and fry all our old FCB's on stage at Rick's loop fest in
> October!

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i'm quite good at frying fcbs...already did that once by connecting a  
US model directly to UK power!


On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Many thanks, Keith. As for me this was the last part of missing
> information and I can now see that SoftStep will be excellent for me.
> SoftStep totally owns the Behringer FCB1010. People - let's bring
> gasoline and fry all our old FCB's on stage at Rick's loop fest in
> October! That would be  awesome.... the ultimate way to celebrate the
> birth of The Softstep.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:53 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> A preset is the collection of the 10 key's worth of presets and how  
>> the
>> navigation keys are configured. It is likely you will configure the  
>> nav diamond
>> keys to recall presets and move decades. You can recall the presets  
>> from the
>> SoftStep this way - I think most people will do this. But you can  
>> also recall
>> presets for individual keys and also have the SoftStep respond to  
>> MIDI program
>> changes if you have big setup and knows what you want the presets  
>> to be and can
>> send to the SoftStep.
>>
>> Manual is in draft form - maybe a week.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Keith
>>  Keith McMillen
>> www.keithmcmillen.com
>> www.beamfoundation.org
>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 3:17:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, keith mcmillen  
>> <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Each key can have up to 6 outputs that can be notes, program  
>>> changes, CC#'s,
>>> OSC.
>>
>> Nice. BTW, all that is explained on the site and in the videos with
>> Barry Threw. However, something that is not explained anywhere is if
>> the "preset" handling happens on a full setup basis (as in "bank") or
>> just on a local pad basis. Barry just touches briefly on this in the
>> NAMM video by saying that "presets can be saved and recalled".
>>
>> For us on this list a kind of deal breaker would be to know (1) if
>> recalling presets can be done on-the-fly while performing (as opposed
>> to having to load the SoftStep editor software in order to recall a
>> preset) and also (2) if presets of full ten pad setups can be  
>> handled.
>>
>> Bottom line: In this product, WHAT EXACTLY IS "A PRESET"?
>>
>>
>>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>>
>> Well, that Reservation List form doesn't have a box for "country". I
>> added "Sweden" as a parenthesis inside the "city" box. Hope that will
>> do.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>
>>
>

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Actually this 'contest' reminds me too much of the "Born on the Web" 
"competition" that Real did, back in 1997 or so.  After all the free 
stumping a lot of us did for RealAudio, you'd have expected better (unless 
one was used to dealing with music biz execs): One could only enter the 
thing if you had persuaded your ISP to buy RealServer installations.

That wasn't 'born on the web' but in a shady used-car lot.

From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
> F*ck,   you are a genius!!!!    Great suggestion.    Let's do it! 
> Seriously,   let's do this everyone.
>
> Dustbunnies wrote:
>>
>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>
>>         ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>
>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube. 
>> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to 
>> screen these entries.
>>
>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>
>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only 
>> loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, 
>> your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old 
>> tape delays, 
>> Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.
>>
>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: 
>> simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines 
>> so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them 
>> into the contest.
>>
>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss' 
>> marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn 
>> more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use 
>> this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>
>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may be 
>> another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can help 
>> open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the 
>> Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally 
>> start to pay attention.
>>
>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that 
>> this contest is by no means an "international championship", and that 
>> there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Some 
>> of these people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in 
>> their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE 
>> ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing 
>> hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.
>>
>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>
>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great 
>> people.
>>
>> Let's show them!
>>
>>     --mech. 

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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Per Boysen
<perboysen@gmail.com>wrote:People - let's bring

> gasoline and fry all our old FCB's on stage at Rick's loop fest in
> October! That would be  awesome....
>

Although I herald the sentiment, if I have got MY Softstep before Ricks
festival, then I have no doubt that my FCB WILL BE LONG GONE!!!

BY THE WAY, while Im on the subject... who is going from Europe to Ricks
festival this year? Was just wondering, cos, as Rick prefers everyone to
arrive at around the same time, it occured to me that maybe some of us might
happen to be on the same flight..

I haven't booked mine yet, but Ill be traveling from Oslo, no doubt changing
at Heathrow (YIKES!) to the haul across. Only asking cos I was about to
start the boring perusal of flights and started wondering...

Sounds like you are Per, thats cool! (YOu can be on hand when somthing
freezes on my frighteningly new lappy setup.. ha ha ha he)

MArk


-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
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http://vimeo.com/user825094
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:People - let&#39;s bring<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-le=
ft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





gasoline and fry all our old FCB&#39;s on stage at Rick&#39;s loop fest in<=
br>
October! That would be =A0awesome....<br></blockquote><div><br>Although I=
=20
herald the sentiment, if I have got MY Softstep before Ricks festival,=20
then I have no doubt that my FCB WILL BE LONG GONE!!!<br>
<br>
BY THE WAY, while Im on the subject... who is going from Europe to Ricks fe=
stival this year? Was just wondering, cos, as Rick prefers everyone to arri=
ve at around the same time, it occured to me that maybe some of us might ha=
ppen to be on the same flight..<br>

<br>I haven&#39;t booked mine yet, but Ill be traveling from Oslo, no doubt=
 changing at Heathrow (YIKES!) to the haul across. Only asking cos I was ab=
out to start the boring perusal of flights and started wondering...<br>

<br>Sounds like you are Per, thats cool! (YOu can be on hand when somthing =
freezes on my frighteningly new lappy setup.. ha ha ha he)<br><br>MArk<br><=
br>=A0</div></div>-- <br>mark francombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancom=
be.com</a><br>
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arget=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.l=
ooop.no/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>




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Im guessing, mainly cos Andy is interested in the pedal, and he=B4s a hardw=
are
chappy, that all is AOK (if you have this midi expansion box) for us
hardware knobs. I am toying with Software, and may get swayed by it but for
now, my main set-up contains NO COMPUTER! So Im concerned that its settings
are saved on the laptop hard-drive, and not on board...

Any answers...

Mark


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Im guessing, mainly cos Andy is interested in the pedal, and he=B4s a hardw=
are chappy, that all is AOK (if you have this midi expansion box) for us ha=
rdware knobs. I am toying with Software, and may get swayed by it but for n=
ow, my main set-up contains NO COMPUTER! So Im concerned that its settings =
are saved on the laptop hard-drive, and not on board...<br>

<br>Any answers...<br><br>Mark<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francom=
be<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br=
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arkfrancombe<br>

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Jazzed both you and Per are coming Mark.  I'll be there not for long but
glad to be there for what I can which will be Sat/Sun.  Look forward to
meeting you and seeing Per again.  Mark when did you live in NY?

Jim

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:30 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wro=
te:

> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>wrote:Pe=
ople - let's bring
>
>> gasoline and fry all our old FCB's on stage at Rick's loop fest in
>> October! That would be  awesome....
>>
>
> Although I herald the sentiment, if I have got MY Softstep before Ricks
> festival, then I have no doubt that my FCB WILL BE LONG GONE!!!
>
> BY THE WAY, while Im on the subject... who is going from Europe to Ricks
> festival this year? Was just wondering, cos, as Rick prefers everyone to
> arrive at around the same time, it occured to me that maybe some of us mi=
ght
> happen to be on the same flight..
>
> I haven't booked mine yet, but Ill be traveling from Oslo, no doubt
> changing at Heathrow (YIKES!) to the haul across. Only asking cos I was
> about to start the boring perusal of flights and started wondering...
>
> Sounds like you are Per, thats cool! (YOu can be on hand when somthing
> freezes on my frighteningly new lappy setup.. ha ha ha he)
>
> MArk
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
>



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>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

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Jazzed both you and Per are coming Mark.=A0 I&#39;ll be there not for long =
but glad to be there for what I can which will be Sat/Sun.=A0 Look forward =
to meeting you and seeing Per again.=A0 Mark when did you live in NY?<br><b=
r>Jim<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:30 PM, mark franco=
mbe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@ma=
rkfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); padding-left: 1ex;">
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:People - let&#39;s bring<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-le=
ft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">






gasoline and fry all our old FCB&#39;s on stage at Rick&#39;s loop fest in<=
br>
October! That would be =A0awesome....<br></blockquote><div><br>Although I=
=20
herald the sentiment, if I have got MY Softstep before Ricks festival,=20
then I have no doubt that my FCB WILL BE LONG GONE!!!<br>
<br>
BY THE WAY, while Im on the subject... who is going from Europe to Ricks fe=
stival this year? Was just wondering, cos, as Rick prefers everyone to arri=
ve at around the same time, it occured to me that maybe some of us might ha=
ppen to be on the same flight..<br>


<br>I haven&#39;t booked mine yet, but Ill be traveling from Oslo, no doubt=
 changing at Heathrow (YIKES!) to the haul across. Only asking cos I was ab=
out to start the boring perusal of flights and started wondering...<br>


<br>Sounds like you are Per, thats cool! (YOu can be on hand when somthing =
freezes on my frighteningly new lappy setup.. ha ha ha he)<br><br>MArk<br><=
br>=A0</div></div>-- <br>mark francombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancom=
be.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com=
</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.l=
ooop.no/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</a><br>
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<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfr=
ancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http=
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@markfrancombe<br>
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r>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>From Brooklyn To=
 Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6r=
n.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=
=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
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hi everyone,
I am getting more and more interested in looping. I wish soooo much I 
could come to the festival and meet you all! Such a great and supportive 
community.

here some recent live performances on mine...( intense stuff). i hope 
you enjoy it. I appreciate any feedback.

http://www.vimeo.com/14118281

http://www.vimeo.com/14117641

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hi everyone,<br>
I am getting more and more interested in looping. I wish soooo much I
could come to the festival and meet you all! Such a great and
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<br>
here some recent live performances on mine...( intense stuff). i hope
you enjoy it. I appreciate any feedback.<br>
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i knew someone would figure out a way to make good use of the publicity! =
 Pretty cool. =20
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On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

> F*ck,   you are a genius!!!!    Great suggestion.    Let's do it!    =
Seriously,   let's do this everyone.
>=20
> Dustbunnies wrote:
>>=20
>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>=20
>>        ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>=20
>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube. =
Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to =
screen these entries.
>>=20
>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>=20
>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on =
Boss-only loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your =
Looperlative, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, =
Loop Junky, old tape delays, =
Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.
>>=20
>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on =
YouTube: simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to =
guidelines so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL =
of them into the contest.
>>=20
>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against =
Boss' marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to =
learn more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education. =
 Use this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>=20
>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It =
may be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you =
can help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. =
Additionally, the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and =
perhaps they'll finally start to pay attention.
>>=20
>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, =
that this contest is by no means an "international championship", and =
that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music. =
 Some of these people use Boss products.  Some use other products and =
tools in their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE =
MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of =
clueless marketing hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a =
product.
>>=20
>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>=20
>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great =
people.
>>=20
>> Let's show them!
>>=20
>>    --mech.
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<br><div><div>On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Rick Walker wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>F*ck, =
&nbsp;&nbsp;you are a genius!!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Great suggestion. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Let's do it! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Seriously, =
&nbsp;&nbsp;let's do this everyone.<br><br>Dustbunnies =
wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Well then, here's an idea...<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;~LET"S HIJACK THE =
CONTEST~<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">It's a public =
contest. &nbsp;All the videos are made available on YouTube. Also, =
somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen =
these entries.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Let's add some =
Art into their commerce. &nbsp;Here's how:<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Enter the =
contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only loopers. =
&nbsp;Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, your =
EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old =
tape delays, =
Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... =
WHATEVER.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">This is even =
easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: simply copy =
your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so they can =
be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the =
contest.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Put some notes =
on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss' marketing, and =
point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more about =
Looping. &nbsp;Use this as a vehicle for positive education. &nbsp;Use =
this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Somebody *will* =
watch. &nbsp;It may be a potential listener or fan. &nbsp;It may be =
another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can =
help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. =
Additionally, the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and =
perhaps they'll finally start to pay =
attention.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">We can send a =
message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that this contest =
is by no means an "international championship", and that there are =
thousands of people out there making great Looping music. &nbsp;Some of =
these people use Boss products. &nbsp;Some use other products and tools =
in their art. &nbsp;But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC =
and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless =
marketing hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a =
product.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Send a message. =
&nbsp;Tools don't make great music. &nbsp;People =
do.<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">There's some incredible talent in this community, and =
lots of great people.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">Let's show =
them!<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;--mech.<br></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div><br=
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Subject: Re: Re: Boss "International Championship" [SIC]....
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Hey all, I like the idea of doing our own thing w/ the contest, I did enter=
  it w/ my old rc-2, but I have been using an LP1 for the last 8 months, wi=
th great pleasure (it's, of course, so far above, any of the boss line) and=
 I was a bit frustrated at the limitation.  Though anyone can see it's a si=
lly marketing strategy on Boss's part, *one* thing I did apreciate about th=
e contest was that it was Free to enter, and as a full time musician,  my f=
unds are pretty low.   But I am exited by all your energy out there and thi=
nk I will 'hedge my bets' so to speak and put one up using my LP1.  Hope yo=
u're all doing great out there! Steve Uccello=20
www.steveuccello.com


------Original Message------
From: Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
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Date: Fri, Aug 13, 7:17 PM +0100
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Actually this 'contest' reminds me too much of the "Born on the Web"=20
"competition" that Real did, back in 1997 or so.  After all the free=20
stumping a lot of us did for RealAudio, you'd have expected better (unless=
=20
one was used to dealing with music biz execs): One could only enter the=20
thing if you had persuaded your ISP to buy RealServer installations.

That wasn't 'born on the web' but in a shady used-car lot.

From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
> F*ck,   you are a genius!!!!    Great suggestion.    Let's do it!=20
> Seriously,   let's do this everyone.
>
> Dustbunnies wrote:
>>
>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>
>>         ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>
>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube.=20
>> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to=20
>> screen these entries.
>>
>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>
>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-onl=
y=20
>> loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative,=
=20
>> your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, ol=
d=20
>> tape delays,=20
>> Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.
>>
>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube=
:=20
>> simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines=
=20
>> so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them=20
>> into the contest.
>>
>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss'=
=20
>> marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn=
=20
>> more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use=
=20
>> this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>
>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may b=
e=20
>> another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can hel=
p=20
>> open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, th=
e=20
>> Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally=
=20
>> start to pay attention.
>>
>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, tha=
t=20
>> this contest is by no means an "international championship", and that=20
>> there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Som=
e=20
>> of these people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in=
=20
>> their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE=
=20
>> ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketin=
g=20
>> hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.
>>
>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>
>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great=20
>> people.
>>
>> Let's show them!
>>
>>     --mech.=20


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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 9:30 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> I haven't booked mine yet, but Ill be traveling from Oslo, no doubt changing
> at Heathrow (YIKES!) to the haul across. Only asking cos I was about to
> start the boring perusal of flights and started wondering...


Hej Mark,

Let's sync our flights! At least it would be handy if we hit SF by the
same time (for local transport purpose). And maybe others coming from
Europe can sync in? You should book a flight on Oct 11 in order to
arrive on the 12th.

I did a quick Google search here and it seems I can either transit at
Heathrow, New York (some 5 hours off there), LA and finally SF. This
route seems as the typical way to lose your checked in instruments and
gear for some days (happened to me last time, plus that homeland
security wanted to terminate my 1929 tenor sax). Who says looping is
harmless...

The other alternative is to first go down from here (Stockholm) to
Amsterdam, spend two hours there and then fly directly to SF.  I must
say this route seems more attractive in order to deliver my gear on
time. With this alternative my touch-down in SF will occur at 13.20 on
Oct 12.

Per

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Hey Nadja,

I already expected Rick to chime in here, but him being already very 
submerged with his festival, I'm gonna try telling you what I believe he 
would:

There is an option for you to meet people from this great community, 
even if you can't come to the festival: organize your own festival!

While Rick's festival is without any doubt the biggest of its kind (and 
the longest-running as well), there have been many other looping 
festivals in Germany or bordering countries:
I remember in 2008 there was both Leander's "2nd Berlin Looping 
Festival" and Michael Peters' festival in Cologne - both framed by 
smaller events in München and Konstanz, respectively: 
http://www.livelooping.de/
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it to the Cologne event myself, but 
the Berlin festival saw (next to numerous performers from the area) 
participation by the Walker Brothers, Per Boysen (+ a duo partner), 
Stefan Tiedje (thanks again, Stefan!), Bernhard Wagner etc. etc.

There's Sjaak's annual fest in Antwerp (although much more of a 
selective/elitist matter), and there have been numerous other events 
over the years (including Zürich, several places in Italy etc.).

So, what I'm getting at: Why don't you have a festival in Braunschweig? 
I'm sure many of the festival veterans such as Michael, Rick etc. will 
be glad to offer you some advice!

          Rainer

ps: and if you do, don't forget to invite me ;-P
> hi everyone,
> I am getting more and more interested in looping. I wish soooo much I 
> could come to the festival and meet you all! Such a great and 
> supportive community.


-- 
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<br>From: Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de>
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hi everyone,<br>
I am getting more and more interested in looping. I wish soooo much I
could come to the festival and meet you all! Such a great and
supportive community.<br>
<br>
here some recent live performances on mine...( intense stuff). i hope
you enjoy it. I appreciate any feedback.<br>
<br>
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best wishes,<br>
Nadia <br>
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sounds like a great option... who knows... perhaps it may really 
happen...it could be biennial, the first looping festival in 
Braunschweig ever... yuhuu

Am 13.08.10 23:53, schrieb Rainer Straschill:
> Hey Nadja,
>
> I already expected Rick to chime in here, but him being already very 
> submerged with his festival, I'm gonna try telling you what I believe 
> he would:
>
> There is an option for you to meet people from this great community, 
> even if you can't come to the festival: organize your own festival!
>
> While Rick's festival is without any doubt the biggest of its kind 
> (and the longest-running as well), there have been many other looping 
> festivals in Germany or bordering countries:
> I remember in 2008 there was both Leander's "2nd Berlin Looping 
> Festival" and Michael Peters' festival in Cologne - both framed by 
> smaller events in München and Konstanz, respectively: 
> http://www.livelooping.de/
> Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it to the Cologne event myself, 
> but the Berlin festival saw (next to numerous performers from the 
> area) participation by the Walker Brothers, Per Boysen (+ a duo 
> partner), Stefan Tiedje (thanks again, Stefan!), Bernhard Wagner etc. 
> etc.
>
> There's Sjaak's annual fest in Antwerp (although much more of a 
> selective/elitist matter), and there have been numerous other events 
> over the years (including Zürich, several places in Italy etc.).
>
> So, what I'm getting at: Why don't you have a festival in 
> Braunschweig? I'm sure many of the festival veterans such as Michael, 
> Rick etc. will be glad to offer you some advice!
>
>          Rainer
>
> ps: and if you do, don't forget to invite me ;-P
>> hi everyone,
>> I am getting more and more interested in looping. I wish soooo much I 
>> could come to the festival and meet you all! Such a great and 
>> supportive community.
>
>


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sounds like a great option... who knows... perhaps it may really
happen...it could be biennial, the first looping festival in
Braunschweig ever... yuhuu<br>
<br>
Am 13.08.10 23:53, schrieb Rainer Straschill:
<blockquote cite="mid:4C65BEE4.1030908@googlemail.com" type="cite">Hey
Nadja,
  <br>
  <br>
I already expected Rick to chime in here, but him being already very
submerged with his festival, I'm gonna try telling you what I believe
he would:
  <br>
  <br>
There is an option for you to meet people from this great community,
even if you can't come to the festival: organize your own festival!
  <br>
  <br>
While Rick's festival is without any doubt the biggest of its kind (and
the longest-running as well), there have been many other looping
festivals in Germany or bordering countries:
  <br>
I remember in 2008 there was both Leander's "2nd Berlin Looping
Festival" and Michael Peters' festival in Cologne - both framed by
smaller events in München and Konstanz, respectively:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.livelooping.de/">http://www.livelooping.de/</a>
  <br>
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it to the Cologne event myself,
but the Berlin festival saw (next to numerous performers from the area)
participation by the Walker Brothers, Per Boysen (+ a duo partner),
Stefan Tiedje (thanks again, Stefan!), Bernhard Wagner etc. etc.
  <br>
  <br>
There's Sjaak's annual fest in Antwerp (although much more of a
selective/elitist matter), and there have been numerous other events
over the years (including Zürich, several places in Italy etc.).
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So, what I'm getting at: Why don't you have a festival in Braunschweig?
I'm sure many of the festival veterans such as Michael, Rick etc. will
be glad to offer you some advice!
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         Rainer
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About two months ago, just before the Boss contest press release, John  
Hernandez the west coast rep for Roland , wrote me and encouraged me  
to participate in this contest, saying he thought I had a very good  
chance of winning the thing, which was flattering, but I politely  
declined letting him know that most of the  methods i use simply could  
not be duplicated on a boss looper., and that I'm not really a contest  
guy anyway, I just could care less about the competitive nature of the  
music biz.  John and Roland donated their time and a clinician to the  
Loop Clinic I gave at Y2K8, and were willing to send their best  
clinician this year as well, though we aren't going to do a formal  
clinic after all. I understand the promotional aspect of the  
competition and I find it oddly synchronistic with the latest release  
by Digitech of not one but 3 new loopers. A bit of a diversionary   
move it seems to me.  I know that boss is poised to release another  
looper soon as well though details are sketchy.  I wish that Roland  
was not so insular in its design practices, It seems the only pros  
they bother to consult are the established name guys like Belew, most  
of which aren't doing anything nearly as sophisticated with looping as  
many members of this list.  I like Dust bunnies  idea of guerilla  
infiltration., though honestly because I like John and in spite of my  
views about Roland they do make good quality, and sometimes very  
innovative gear,  I personally would feel like I was cheating, unless  
there was a boss looper in the chain. But I don't mind calling him and  
asking him how much "processing" and by that I mean mangling with non  
boss gear could be done prior to loop creation on the boss and still  
be within the limits.  Besides from what I've seen, Juana Molina is  
gonna be pretty hard to beat the way she works 2 RC-20's....
Bill

PS Nice article in Mix,  Richard... me have gear  
envy ............dangerous gear envy...........................are you  
doing any  mastering for cyber clients yet?

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Mark when did you live in NY?

>
> Jim
>
>


Well.. lived..maybe lived is the wrong word...
I stayed there alot during 92... I think I was a month early 92, it was a
base for an East coast tour and local biz shows and photoshoots.. then we
were back a few weeks later prior to starting the Cure tour... then after
that was over 9 months later.. I ended up staying.. ahem.. with twins in a
hotel on rivington for...  tooooooo fucking long... and yes.. it was what it
sounds like.. uh... a threesome with a bit of incest thrown in... god...
what was i thinking...ugh


mark


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<br>Mark when did you live in NY?<br>
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d is the wrong word...<br>I stayed there alot during 92... I think I was a =
month early 92, it was a base for an East coast tour and local biz shows an=
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ure tour... then after that was over 9 months later.. I ended up staying.. =
ahem.. with twins in a hotel on rivington for...=A0 tooooooo fucking long..=
. and yes.. it was what it sounds like.. uh... a threesome with a bit of in=
cest thrown in... god... what was i thinking...ugh<br>

<br><br>mark<br><br><br>- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markf=
rancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao=
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<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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At 10:41 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>Dustbunnies wrote:
>>
>>Well then, here's an idea...
>>
>>         ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>
>F*ck,   you are a genius!!!!    Great suggestion.    Let's do it!
>Seriously,   let's do this everyone.

FWIW, one possible bonus is that all the Web "Buzz" Blogs absolutely 
*adore* it when an Internet Marketing campaign gets turned back 
around on a company by the grassroots public.

Make a good showing of this and it will get write-ups in places like 
Wired.com, Boing-Boing, Slashdot, or Mashable.

Make a *really* good showing, and this might even get a blurb or two 
in the news section for a couple of the major music mags (Guitar 
Player/Keyboard, Electronic Musician, Recording Magazine, and the 
like).  If that happens, then perhaps Roland/Boss will finally start 
taking the community here seriously....

	-- mech.
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    beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...."

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I love this idea!!


On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:

> At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>> Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete  
>> (and in my estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products  
>> and given the number of world class live looping artists who don't  
>> even use Boss gear, I think it's a little presumptuous to call the  
>> finals of this competition an " international championship".
>>
>> Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to  
>> hosting a true and fair international competition for live looping  
>> that included loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of  
>> live looping gear, both hardware and software.
>>
>> Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with  
>> anyone else here?
>
> Well then, here's an idea...
>
> 		~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>
> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on  
> YouTube. Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to  
> have to screen these entries.
>
> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>
> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss- 
> only loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your  
> Looperlative, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880,  
> DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/ 
> Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.
>
> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on  
> YouTube: simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according  
> to guidelines so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and  
> enter ALL of them into the contest.
>
> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against  
> Boss' marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want  
> to learn more about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive  
> education.  Use this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>
> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It  
> may be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case  
> you can help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done.  
> Additionally, the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and  
> perhaps they'll finally start to pay attention.
>
> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping,  
> that this contest is by no means an "international championship",  
> and that there are thousands of people out there making great  
> Looping music.  Some of these people use Boss products.  Some use  
> other products and tools in their art.  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE  
> ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD --  
> not some group of clueless marketing hacks with an advertising  
> budget trying to shill a product.
>
> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>
> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great  
> people.
>
> Let's show them!
>
> 	--mech.
> -- 
> _____
> "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than  
> one step..."
>

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At 3:48 PM -0700 8/13/10, William Walker wrote:
>  I like Dust bunnies  idea of guerilla infiltration., though 
>honestly....I personally would feel like I was cheating, unless 
>there was a boss looper in the chain.

Thanks for the support, Bill.  :)

Although this would in no way be "cheating", because it's all 
explicitly against contest rules.  Anybody participating would 
obviously be disqualified outright.  But this isn't about actually 
participating in the contest.  Instead, this is about using the 
contest as a conduit to send a message back to Roland/Boss.

And how many times have you heard the same stories we all have: Reps 
and Tech Support from Roland US or Roland UK pushing hard to get a 
good idea up their chain-of-command.  Then after all that work 
watching that idea disappear into a black hole once it's transmitted 
to Roland Headquarters back over here in Japan -- never to be seen or 
heard of again.

I swear, it seems Roland R&D is largely deaf, dumb, and blind to 
anything outside its front door here in Nihon.  Opening their eyes to 
the fact that they actually have users with interesting ideas would 
be a good thing.  I'd hope this might even *help* your friend John, 
in that they might finally start taking his feedback seriously!!!

>because I like John and in spite of my views about Roland they do 
>make good quality, and sometimes very innovative gear,

Oh, I know exactly what you mean.  I'd love to be able to simply 
"hate on" anything/everything Roland.  But I can't, because for every 
~20 or 50 pieces of mainstream music schlock they churn out, there's 
always one product which is genuinely groundbreaking, or which can be 
(unintentionally or not) twisted in ways that make it a truly 
inventive piece of gear.  Just off the top of my head, I can name 
three I use myself: the VG-technology guitar modelling, the Boss 
Slicer, and the Boss DD-20.  I won't go into detail (because it's 
been covered here before), but those 3 alone are simply brilliant. 
If I spent more than 30 seconds, I could probably come up with a 
half-dozen more examples.

My suspicion for years is that Roland R&D has one single "mad 
scientist" who gets shifted from project to project.  He adds what he 
can, when he can, but then gets pulled away to the next project.  The 
rest of the development is handled by the standard, canned, 
design-by-committee crap.

But even those innovations don't excuse Roland HQ's tendency to 
completely ignore the needs and suggestions of its user base. 
Perhaps this would help get it through their heads that there are 
people other than their "pro endorsers" who can contribute innovative 
suggestions.

	-- mech.
-- 
_____
"bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye"

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This is rehashing an old topic. I found a big thread from 2003 or so  
comparing Ableton Live and Hardware loopers, and recent threads  
discussing Ableton bugs, latency and glitches. If this has been  
discussed recently, please give me the thread title and I'll read it.

Ableton has come a long way since then. I know some of you are using  
it. Is Live 8 ready for the stage? How does it stack up with EDPs and  
LP1s. I've always had an aversion to using computers on the stage, but  
I have to admit I was pretty impressed with the videos that I've been  
seeing.

I'm going to have a learning curve with whatever I decide to go with.  
LP1, EDP, or Ableton. If someone is getting into live looping now,  
which platform is the best?

Philip

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not specific to ableton but now that I've integrated a computer into
my setup, I'll probably never go back. plus m=F6bius is such an
incredible looping tool...like an edp on steroids.

On Friday, August 13, 2010, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is rehashing an old topic. I found a big thread from 2003 or so comp=
aring Ableton Live and Hardware loopers, and recent threads discussing Able=
ton bugs, latency and glitches. If this has been discussed recently, please=
 give me the thread title and I'll read it.
>
> Ableton has come a long way since then. I know some of you are using it. =
Is Live 8 ready for the stage? How does it stack up with EDPs and LP1s. I'v=
e always had an aversion to using computers on the stage, but I have to adm=
it I was pretty impressed with the videos that I've been seeing.
>
> I'm going to have a learning curve with whatever I decide to go with. LP1=
, EDP, or Ableton. If someone is getting into live looping now, which platf=
orm is the best?
>
> Philip
>
>

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THOUGHT RADIO:                       http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
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My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show
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special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase
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You will hear the latest releases from Groove Unlimited Records all
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I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show
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Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
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very nice Nadia! 
 
-Michael
 
 >  here some recent live performances on mine...( intense stuff). i hope
you enjoy it. I appreciate any feedback.
 > http://www.vimeo.com/14118281 
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thank you for listening !

Am 14.08.10 09:16, schrieb Michael Peters:
> very nice Nadia!
> -Michael
> > here some recent live performances on mine...( intense stuff). i hope 
> you enjoy it. I appreciate any feedback.
> > http://www.vimeo.com/14118281
> > http://www.vimeo.com/14117641
> > best wishes,Nadia


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I'm not very technically savvy, but I use Ableton and like it a lot 
because it provides for a lot of flexibility, especially since sometimes 
I use midi instruments. I use it with FCB pedals and an Axiom Pro 
keyboard. I havent really learned how to use the axiom completely but it 
is cool because I can switch through the tracks and change settings 
while performing.

Am 14.08.10 03:57, schrieb Philip:
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> comparing Ableton Live and Hardware loopers, and recent threads 
> discussing Ableton bugs, latency and glitches. If this has been 
> discussed recently, please give me the thread title and I'll read it.
>
> Ableton has come a long way since then. I know some of you are using 
> it. Is Live 8 ready for the stage? How does it stack up with EDPs and 
> LP1s. I've always had an aversion to using computers on the stage, but 
> I have to admit I was pretty impressed with the videos that I've been 
> seeing.
>
> I'm going to have a learning curve with whatever I decide to go with. 
> LP1, EDP, or Ableton. If someone is getting into live looping now, 
> which platform is the best?
>
> Philip
>
>


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because it provides for a lot of flexibility, especially since
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Hi folks,

I've posted a piece from one of my live performances from earlier 
this year. Check it out if you have time and let me know what you 
think.

"Water Music, Simpson Variations was recorded live at Outpost 186 in 
Cambridge, MA, on March 21, 2010, as part of the Visual Music LIVE 
series. It is an improvised performance by Dr T, Video Mixing, Glynis 
Lomon, cello and voice, and Forbes Graham, trumpet.

All of the source material was shot at Simpson Park, about a mile 
from my home in Framingham, MA, about a week before the show. Water 
is a common theme in my video improvs  --- for this piece I decided 
to start with the Simpson water and ended up using it for the whole 
piece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxBtaJajCkU

BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at 
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oh, some more questions.

What's the latency on "Foot Off" function for the Softstep?
(in one of the videos it looks quite long)

...and of course it's possible to send arbitrary command on the 
"Foot Off".

those questions are mission critical for edp(+related loopers) users.

andy

andy butler wrote:
> great news,
> that's exactly what we wanted to hear
> 
> andy
> 
> keith mcmillen wrote:
>> Correct on the Latency.
>> MIDI Expansion module about 1ms faster when running in standalone mode.
>> You get to set where "On" is for each key. With a switch you have to 
>> make it travel until it "clicks". So you can have the SoftStep key be 
>> very snappy - without falsies.
>> I have been looping for 35 years (2 tape decks - ugh! ) and accurate 
>> is a must.
>>  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org "Music 
>> For A New Reason"
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 1:30:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: SoftStep latency
>>
>> That sounds good.
>>
>> Presumably by "driver of known latency" you mean
>> "driver latency + usb/firewire latency + A/D conversion time"?
>>
>>
>> How about the midi-module?
>> andy butler
>>
>> keith mcmillen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response 
>>> measurement) with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program 
>>> that compared the receipt of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and 
>>> the USB MIDI receipt of message. Results were consistently 3-5 ms. 
>>> Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 2 Duo.
>>>
>>> Keith  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org 
>>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
>>>
>>> Great news,
>>> a lot of folks been waiting for this.
>>>
>>> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
>>> (essential for loopers)
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh...and what about the price!
>>>
>>> andy butler
>>>
>>> ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
>>>   (they have a screensaver ;-)
>>>    keith mcmillen wrote:
>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>
>>>> SoftSteps are soon to be here. We invite you to sign up for the 
>>>> SoftStep Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 
>>>> SoftSteps directly to customers before they arrive in stores. In 
>>>> this introductory offer, we are also including a free Batt-O-Meter 
>>>> (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep customers:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>>>>
>>>>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with 
>>>> MIDI
>>>>       Expander.
>>>>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>>>>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>>>>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>>>>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>>>>       airline-friendly.
>>>>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>>>>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>>>>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key 
>>>> LEDs.
>>>>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller 
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> Keith McMillen
>>>> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
>>>> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
>>>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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mark francombe wrote:
> Im guessing, mainly cos Andy is interested in the pedal, and he´s a 
> hardware chappy, that all is AOK (if you have this midi expansion box) 
> for us hardware knobs. 

It's just nice to see a really good controller that actually
delivers the goods.
(also I don't want to be stuck with endless "why doesn't
  my edp work with this?" questions ;-)

I'm sticking with the Little Giant tho'..
................the only one with a screensaver

andy

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Per Boysen wrote:

> The other alternative is to first go down from here (Stockholm) to
> Amsterdam, spend two hours there and then fly directly to SF.  

Schiphol airport is a ok place to wait for your transfer.
Check out the freshly squeezed orange juice.
andy

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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm sticking with the Little Giant tho'..
> ................the only one with a screensaver


He, he... a screensaver - how cool! In the display I guess?

I bet Keith will develop a free app that runs a random light show on
the SoftStep, percolating the leds in a classic disco light organ
fashion. Will look good on stage pre show - especially if using many
Softsteps in your rig!  ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> . Is Live 8 ready for the stage? How does it stack up with EDPs and LP1s.
> I've always had an aversion to using computers on the stage, but I have to
> admit I was pretty impressed with the videos that I've been seeing.


Impossible to answer those questions because these loopers are all
different. You just can't compare apples and oranges. It's more a
question about what you want to do. You don't buy a lorry to race the
highway while a Porsche may have an issue bringing a heavy load...
Download the manuals and see what system offers the stuff you will
like to fiddle with!

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james fowler wrote:
> not specific to ableton but now that I've integrated a computer into
> my setup, I'll probably never go back. plus möbius is such an
> incredible looping tool.

yes

>..like an edp on steroids.

no
( and it's not intended to be )

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andy butler schrieb:
> [Möbius]
>> ..like an edp on steroids.
> no
> ( and it's not intended to be )
;) Right. Rather 8 brother-sync'd EDP pairs without steroids, huge 
amounts of memory, MIDI patchbay for doing the sync stuff right and 
scripting language...

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Philip schrieb:
> This is rehashing an old topic. I found a big thread from 2003 or so 
> comparing Ableton Live and Hardware loopers, and recent threads 
> discussing Ableton bugs, latency and glitches. If this has been 
> discussed recently, please give me the thread title and I'll read it.
To this day, the most important thing about computer-based systems and 
the question of "stage readiness" is the single point of failure problem:
When using a computer system, a problem with any single part of the 
system (i.e. the computer hardware, os, audio application, plugins, 
interface) will usually bring your performance to a halt. This is not 
necessarily the case with non-computer based systems.
That being said, live audio on computers has come a long way since 2003 
- at least if you're willing to do the necessary configuration work:
choose your computer wisely. Optimize your os and the setup of your 
audio app. With all of that done, you can have a lot of fun with computers.

          Rainer

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Today's "MoinSound Studio Session" will once again feature the voice of 
the trombone - after quite a long pause from it where I did mostly piano 
stuff (check out the session archives under the session link below for 
some examples).

What will stay the same is the musical approach - so to relate to that 
recent question regarding laptop use: it's Ableton Live (old version, 
only as a VST host/mixer) and Möbius as the looper.

Another note: this week's session will air one hour early (1500 UTC, 
1600 GB, 1700 Western Continental Europe). Look up the actual times here:
http://bit.ly/bafXLz (via timeanddate.com).

Now, the link to the event:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions

Looking forward to see you there and chat with you!

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Hello All,

One thing to consider is the most simple one:

If all your backing parts/loops are in a computer & the computer goes out..=
...

If you have various pedals at your disposal & one goes out you simply work =
around it.

Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Trite but true sometimes.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Software vs Hardware loopers
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:51:11 +0200
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > . Is Live 8 ready for the stage? How does it stack up with EDPs and LP1=
s.
> > I've always had an aversion to using computers on the stage, but I have=
 to
> > admit I was pretty impressed with the videos that I've been seeing.
>=20
>=20
> Impossible to answer those questions because these loopers are all
> different. You just can't compare apples and oranges. It's more a
> question about what you want to do. You don't buy a lorry to race the
> highway while a Porsche may have an issue bringing a heavy load...
> Download the manuals and see what system offers the stuff you will
> like to fiddle with!
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub

>



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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mark Showalter
<folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
> If all your backing parts/loops are in a computer & the computer goes out.....


Play something acoustic, tell a story or go to the bar and let someone
else play a longer set.
(This of course doesn't apply for commercial commissions where the
budget may allow you to bring a back-up system.)

I started perform with computers in 2004 and I still haven't had a bad
computer emergency during a concert. But I've had lots of strings
breaking on me, mechanic fuck-ups in flute or saxophone and even at
one gig an EDP system crash. Not to forget low battery problems with
stomp boxes ;-)  To me a laptop feels more safe. Two is totally safe.
You can stuff them away on stage so the are not visible if you like.

Related info:
At the latest NiN tour they had two identical computer systems running
the same Mainstage setup. Clones. One connected with audio outputs to
the PA, but both systems fully running in sync and receiving the same
external MIDI control data. If shit happens the engineer just needs to
flip a switch to put out the second system's audio output into the PA.
Rarely an audio drop-out as far as the audience is concerned.

Per

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At YK2X, Im planning the best of both worlds... normal stompboxes, and
laptop for looping.. if lappy goes down... I have enough glitchy, delayish,
pitchy, filtery, pedals, that no one will notice anyway.. in fact... maybe
Ill just leave the laptop at home?
In the same way that one MUST use Boss and the Boss competition,  do I HAVE
to loop at YK2X?

Mark

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mark Showalter
<folkstone57@operamail.com>wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> One thing to consider is the most simple one:
>
> If all your backing parts/loops are in a computer & the computer goes
> out.....
>
> If you have various pedals at your disposal & one goes out you simply work
> around it.
>
> Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Trite but true sometimes.-
>


mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

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At YK2X, Im planning the best of both worlds... normal stompboxes, and lapt=
op for looping.. if lappy goes down... I have enough glitchy, delayish, pit=
chy, filtery, pedals, that no one will notice anyway.. in fact... maybe Ill=
 just leave the laptop at home? <br>

In the same way that one MUST use Boss and the Boss competition,=A0 do I HA=
VE to loop at YK2X?<br><br>Mark<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, A=
ug 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mark Showalter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:folkstone57@operamail.com">folkstone57@operamail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hello All,<br>
<br>
One thing to consider is the most simple one:<br>
<br>
If all your backing parts/loops are in a computer &amp; the computer goes o=
ut.....<br>
<br>
If you have various pedals at your disposal &amp; one goes out you simply w=
ork around it.<br>
<br>
Don&#39;t put all your eggs in one basket. Trite but true sometimes.- <br><=
/blockquote><div><br>=A0</div></div>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www=
.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordo=
abkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vi=
meo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.=
no</a><br>

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Hello All,

Well, it would be nice if you could let someone else get up on stage & play=
 unless you happen to be the act booked in for that night. As far as batter=
ies in your pedals, I haven't used batteries in my pedals for as long as I =
can remember. I always used power supplies as most pedals do a lot better w=
ith a steady source of electricity, something I learned when the first peda=
l I ever tried went completely bonkers on me. Learned me lesson I did.

As for the rest of the stuff......now you're just whining ;-)=20


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Software vs Hardware loopers
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:21:38 +0200
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Mark Showalter
> <folkstone57@operamail.com> wrote:
> > If all your backing parts/loops are in a computer & the computer=20
> > goes out.....
>=20
>=20
> Play something acoustic, tell a story or go to the bar and let someone
> else play a longer set.
> (This of course doesn't apply for commercial commissions where the
> budget may allow you to bring a back-up system.)
>=20
> I started perform with computers in 2004 and I still haven't had a bad
> computer emergency during a concert. But I've had lots of strings
> breaking on me, mechanic fuck-ups in flute or saxophone and even at
> one gig an EDP system crash. Not to forget low battery problems with
> stomp boxes ;-)  To me a laptop feels more safe. Two is totally safe.
> You can stuff them away on stage so the are not visible if you like.
>=20
> Related info:
> At the latest NiN tour they had two identical computer systems running
> the same Mainstage setup. Clones. One connected with audio outputs to
> the PA, but both systems fully running in sync and receiving the same
> external MIDI control data. If shit happens the engineer just needs to
> flip a switch to put out the second system's audio output into the PA.
> Rarely an audio drop-out as far as the audience is concerned.
>=20
> Per

>



Mark Showalter
Minden Jot!

myspace.com/folkstone57
http://www.last.fm/music/Mark+Showalter
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Thanks for all of the input.

I the only problem with LapLooping is the computer going down. I'll be  
fine. I'll just go back to doing what I've been doing all these years-- 
playing the guitar and singing...or going to the bar and drinking.  
I've got lots of experience with both of those.

I guess my main concern was whether programs like Ableton allowed you  
to focus on the songs and grooves without the computer being a main  
fixture on the stage. I don't like the is-this-guy-playing-mp3s-and- 
just-checking-his-mail-or-what kind of gigs...

Philip

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Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the EDP =
or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I think =
of this as being essentially smart replace.

Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through =
but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.

One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically to =
100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.

Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% feedback.

The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch =
from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up =
on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to =
achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.

Does anyone know of something that will do this?

Mark

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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
> Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the EDP or=
 the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I think of thi=
s as being essentially smart replace.
>
> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through but=
 does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
>
> One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically to =
100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
>
> Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% feedback.
>
> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch from=
 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up on the =
ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to achieve thi=
s with a quantized sequence of operations.
>
> Does anyone know of something that will do this?


I gave my EDP to someone, so I can't test this in praxis, but cant you
simply put the EDP in sustained Overdub mode and - while still in
Overdub - use a SUS Substitute pedal on the cycle/loop length?

With Mobius I do it kind of like that, using SUS Substitute (with
Alternative Feedback set to "0") and this replaces everything as long
as I hold down the pedal. Then I pop directly into Overdub mode.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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toejampc@gmail.com schrieb:
> I guess my main concern was whether programs like Ableton allowed you 
> to focus on the songs and grooves without the computer being a main 
> fixture on the stage. I don't like the 
> is-this-guy-playing-mp3s-and-just-checking-his-mail-or-what kind of 
> gigs...
Now this is a different topic altogether!
 From my pov, one of the key topics when doing a computer-based setup is 
to invest gear and time into the design of the man machine interface. As 
you said, the interface a computer comes with is not the one you'd 
usually want to use (unless you're playing nerdrock, if something like 
this exists...).

In an ideal world:
    1. use control input devices that work well with your performance style
    2. use optical feedback independent of the computer screen
    3. if using the computer screen at all, use software that allows you 
to make that configurable

Depending on the complexity of your setup, this can be just a simple 
MIDI or USB foot controller, or a combination of faderboxes with moving 
faders or LED rings around the dials (and LEDs in the buttons), and a 
software solution like PD or MAX/MSP where you can freely design the 
display.

Due to the massive amount of configurability and the possibility to 
automatize some things, you may actually need less controllers than with 
a regular setup. To refer to two looping performers: Kid Beyond uses a 
programmable foot pedal to control Ableton Live and keeps the screen 
closed while performing. Andrew Pask (of The Choir Boys) doesn't control 
the computer at all, rather has it do the processing based on algorithms 
and randomness (and doesn't use a screen, either).

Another thing I've been thinking about (and need to follow that some 
more) is to have your setup run in some kind of (song-dependant) state 
machine which you can control with a very simple controller...such as a 
wireless trackball attached to the trombone.

All that being said: just remember when doing the math that the software 
solution will cost you more than the computer/audio interface/software 
prices, namely some MMI devices and a lot of thinking (on which, 
depending on your hourly rate, you may spend much more than on all of 
the hardware together ;).

             Rainer

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Mark Hamburg schrieb:
> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
>
> Does anyone know of something that will do this?
>   
Write a script for Möbius. It will do it.

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Anyone currently doing EDP repairs in the US? California? asking for a  
friend.
  Bill "you should probably check the archives" Walker

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On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> =
wrote:
>> Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the =
EDP or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I =
think of this as being essentially smart replace.
>>=20
>> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through =
but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
>>=20
>> One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically =
to 100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
>>=20
>> Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% =
feedback.
>>=20
>> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch =
from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up =
on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to =
achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
>>=20
>> Does anyone know of something that will do this?
>=20
>=20
> I gave my EDP to someone, so I can't test this in praxis, but cant you
> simply put the EDP in sustained Overdub mode and - while still in
> Overdub - use a SUS Substitute pedal on the cycle/loop length?
>=20
> With Mobius I do it kind of like that, using SUS Substitute (with
> Alternative Feedback set to "0") and this replaces everything as long
> as I hold down the pedal. Then I pop directly into Overdub mode.

I haven't hooked my EDP up recently -- I've been endeavoring to move =
myself to the LP-1 -- but I think that would work except for not being =
able to quantize the length of the SUS without quantizing the start and =
end.

Mark

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http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio/playlists/2010/100814.html

The Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show has alternating hosts.  When I am
at the helm, the show is called Thought Radio and you can expect to hear
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix
of other genres.  The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am EDT/GMT-4 on
WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet.  I also host Afterglow
every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

                Show #179                August 14, 2010.

On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music
magazine.  Each contemporary issue comes with a CD.  However, the early
issues came with a cassette.  The cassettes from issues one through
thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic
slip covers with artwork and track details.  Details are at:
http://sequencesmagazine.com

I played new music from Groove Records and music by Modulator ESP of the
UK who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday, September
5.  Details are at:
http://soundscapes.us


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Modulator ESP        Transpacial          Awakenings 2005 (AmbientLive)
VA [Paul Nagle]      x                    Sequences No. 10
VA [Palantir]        Gil-Galad (Starlight)Sequences No. 10
VA [Paul Gallant     x                    Sequences No. 10
  and David Mantripp]
Gert Emmens          Part 16              The Nearest Faraway Place
                                            Volume 3 (Groove)
Meesha               Within the Parallel  Within the Parallel (none)
Meesha               Prism                Within the Parallel (none)


Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Michael Stribling    Return To the        Paradise Lost (none)
                       Spirit World
Sentz and Kikachi    Dreaming             Ocean Spirits (none)
Robin Spielberg      Sweet Betsy from     Sea To Shining Sea (none)
                       Pike


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Spock's Beard        Jaws of Heaven       X (none)
Martin Orford        Grand Designs        The Old Road (Giant Electric
                                            Pea)
Fibonacci Sequence   Commencement         Numerology (none)
Fibonacci Sequence   Neap Tide            Numerology (none)
Fibonacci Sequence   Primrose Path *      Numerology (none)


 * = excerpt
++ = Advanced CDR from artist
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that
come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine.

Bill
========================================================================
Host of Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show every
other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4.
Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music.
Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age.
Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases.
Website - http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
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Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at
http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html
========================================================================
The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of
Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to
post playlists or track airplay?  The progdj list solves that problem.

The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD
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OK, many. many apologies for this gratuitous post. Aother totally
corny youtube video, a guy in a scuba suit fake playing guitar, and
yet I loved it. The Antarctic scenery is fantastic and the music from
Tisziji Munoz is from my all time favorite guitarist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk

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All I can say is ... weird! I agree about the nice footage, but cant about
the guitar Im afraid ouch!

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, many. many apologies for this gratuitous post. Aother totally
> corny youtube video, a guy in a scuba suit fake playing guitar, and
> yet I loved it. The Antarctic scenery is fantastic and the music from
> Tisziji Munoz is from my all time favorite guitarist.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
>


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All I can say is ... weird! I agree about the nice footage, but cant about =
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ologies for this gratuitous post. Aother totally<br>
corny youtube video, a guy in a scuba suit fake playing guitar, and<br>
yet I loved it. The Antarctic scenery is fantastic and the music from<br>
Tisziji Munoz is from my all time favorite guitarist.<br>
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<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Art Simon<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com">simart@gmail.com</a><br>
myspace [dot] com/artsimon<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<b=
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href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

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<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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I think it's actually promotion for the guitar. A carbon fiber unibody/ 
neck. The builder posts in the comments section.

I want mittens like that for really cold gigs!! Didn't interfere with  
the tone at all.

P




On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:17 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> All I can say is ... weird! I agree about the nice footage, but cant  
> about the guitar Im afraid ouch!
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, many. many apologies for this gratuitous post. Aother totally
> corny youtube video, a guy in a scuba suit fake playing guitar, and
> yet I loved it. The Antarctic scenery is fantastic and the music from
> Tisziji Munoz is from my all time favorite guitarist.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk
>
> --
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no


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Hi everyone,

I am both tremendously excited and overwhelmed with the festival this 
year for this reason:

The Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival
has had unprecedented interest from artists from 23 countries.

So far,  there are 65 artists confirmed from 20 different countries
to perform.   This is much larger than any other year and for the first
time ever,  I've been forced to close the application process this year
(as much as it pains me as a dedicated Egalitarian)

The number of people heading to Santa Cruz for this wonderful 10th 
Anniversary
festival (and the last one that I"m going to produce) is just literally 
overwhelming,
logistically speaking.

I'm struggling right now to make sure there are enough performances venues
and, even more importantly,  enough places for all the foreign artists 
to stay this year.

I can really use this communities' help if you have it to give.

If you can help me to provide any of the following resources,  it will 
be a great gift
to the festival and to the community and I thank you from the bottom of 
my heart.

Specifically,   I need:

1)  Any and all monetary donations to help with the housing of artists
(who are all coming on their own dime without any compensation at all)
and to, hopefully,  pay my all volunteer staff.

2)  I would, specifically love to invite Eivind Aarset to come from 
Norway and perform
as one of our headlining artists.  
He is the only artist that I need to raise significant funds to bring 
here.  
If I can't raise enough funds for this,   the funds for housing and 
transportation
will take precedence in my budget for the festival.

I feel that he is such an influential player in the guitar/live looping 
realm
in Europe and yet, he has never performed on the west coast of the 
United States before
so I think it is culturally important to bring him to this, the largest 
live looping festival
in history and expose this community to his work (as well as the West 
Coast of the US).

3)  I am going to need significant housing for artists. 

 If you live in the Santa Cruz area and can volunteer to put up a couple 
of amazing foreign live looping artists for the
length of the festival,  it would be a blessing!

4)  I will need people to help transport artists to and from where they 
are staying
and also to and from the San Francisco airport on Tuesday,  October 12th 
and
Tuesday,  October 19th.

If you feel like you have the energy or resources to help us out with 
any of these specific things, would you

Please contact me off list at       Rick Walker   looppool@cruzio.com

That is also my paypal account if you can donate funds for the festival.

Please put   Y2K-X: I CAN HELP     in capital letters in the subject 
line if
you feel like you can help out in any way, shape or form so that my Junk 
filter doesn't grab it, accidentally.

Thank you and bless this wonderful community!

yours,   Rick Walker

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Hi Mark,

tricky indeed.

try quantised replace on the LP1
and set the Q number to 1.
If you program a button to do the QReplace 
followed by putting the track into overdub
I think that covers it completely for the quantised version.
(the LP1 always waits for the qrep to finish before doing the 
  next command)

With Edp don't know if you can do a quantised TOG Replace  
and end it with overdub...I suspect maybe not, but worth a go.



andy

Mark Hamburg wrote:
> Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the EDP or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I think of this as being essentially smart replace.
> 
> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
> 
> One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically to 100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
> 
> Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% feedback.
> 
> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
> 
> Does anyone know of something that will do this?
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

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Per Boysen wrote:

> I gave my EDP to someone, so I can't test this in praxis, but cant you
> simply put the EDP in sustained Overdub mode and - while still in
> Overdub - use a SUS Substitute pedal on the cycle/loop length?
> 

sadly no, using Substitute cancels the Overdub

andy

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Yes,   Mark,    you HAVE to loop at Y2K-X and furthermore,  in real time 
if you want to perform there.

There are so many people who want to perform anywhere and there are so 
many people who
use pre-recorded loops in their live performances who want to play 
anywhere that
I have become extremely narrow on this definition for acceptance to 
perform at the loopfestival......
otherwise I would be overwhelmed with eager applicants.

It is a LIVE LOOPING Festival...............not just a looping festival 
and not a typical music festival.

If anyone performs at the festival,  they need to have LIVE LOOPING at 
the heart of their aesthetic
and performance.

I am immovable on this point.      I think I have to be.

I had a very famous act play last years festival and though,  I enjoyed 
their performances, they just
basically played over the top of pre-recorded loops.   As famous as they 
are,  they won't be playing
again this year unless they are willing to change their mode to include 
real time live looping:
Creating musical loops in real time in front of the audience.   LIVE 
LOOPING!

respectfully,   Rick Walker  (for the Y2K-X 10th Anniversary 
International Live Looping Festival)

mark francombe wrote:
> At YK2X, Im planning the best of both worlds... normal stompboxes, and 
> laptop for looping.. if lappy goes down... I have enough glitchy, 
> delayish, pitchy, filtery, pedals, that no one will notice anyway.. in 
> fact... maybe Ill just leave the laptop at home?
> In the same way that one MUST use Boss and the Boss competition,  do I 
> HAVE to loop at YK2X?
> <http://www.looop.no>

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we've had that one before I think ;-)

footage by Henry Kaiser

check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
(inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)



Art Simon wrote:
> OK, many. many apologies for this gratuitous post. Aother totally
> corny youtube video, a guy in a scuba suit fake playing guitar, and
> yet I loved it. The Antarctic scenery is fantastic and the music from
> Tisziji Munoz is from my all time favorite guitarist.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk
> 

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It was a joke Rick,

Ever since 1982 when I started looping with 2 tape decks, excluding a small
glitch of 8 years while I performed with a hot pop combo, I have looped...
Now I am delving tentatively into the world of laptop, specifically for the
festival, I am putting together a stompbox pedalboard comprising things that
can emulate my rack setup, including 3 pitchshifters 2 ring modulators ,
right now trying to get them to sequence using a harware sequncer... this
will be hopefully synch to the laptop where I shall run Mobius within Live,
there will be some minimal rythym programmed in Live, and I am working on
some patches that take random bits of the mobius loop and RE-loop them but
from behind a collection of ADSRs and filters to add to the pre-prgrammed
rythym., this will hopfully emulate somewhat how I use my modular synth.

Im doing this WITHOUT any good, or expensive hardware however.. no nice
soundcards will you find in MY setup, to latency and hiss will be in
integral part of the perfomance, I expect...

Or I may just loop with no effects.. did that last night for three hours and
it was like a load lifted off my brow...

Mark





On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Yes,   Mark,    you HAVE to loop at Y2K-X and furthermore,  in real time if
> you want to perform there.
>
> There are so many people who want to perform anywhere and there are so many
> people who
> use pre-recorded loops in their live performances who want to play anywhere
> that
> I have become extremely narrow on this definition for acceptance to perform
> at the loopfestival......
> otherwise I would be overwhelmed with eager applicants.
>
> It is a LIVE LOOPING Festival...............not just a looping festival and
> not a typical music festival.
>
> If anyone performs at the festival,  they need to have LIVE LOOPING at the
> heart of their aesthetic
> and performance.
>
> I am immovable on this point.      I think I have to be.
>
> I had a very famous act play last years festival and though,  I enjoyed
> their performances, they just
> basically played over the top of pre-recorded loops.   As famous as they
> are,  they won't be playing
> again this year unless they are willing to change their mode to include
> real time live looping:
> Creating musical loops in real time in front of the audience.   LIVE
> LOOPING!
>
> respectfully,   Rick Walker  (for the Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International
> Live Looping Festival)
>
> mark francombe wrote:
>
>> At YK2X, Im planning the best of both worlds... normal stompboxes, and
>> laptop for looping.. if lappy goes down... I have enough glitchy, delayish,
>> pitchy, filtery, pedals, that no one will notice anyway.. in fact... maybe
>> Ill just leave the laptop at home?
>> In the same way that one MUST use Boss and the Boss competition,  do I
>> HAVE to loop at YK2X?
>> <http://www.looop.no>
>>
>
>


-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://www.looop.no

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It was a joke Rick, <br><br>Ever since 1982 when I started looping with 2 t=
ape decks, excluding a small glitch of 8 years while I performed with a hot=
 pop combo, I have looped...<br>Now I am delving tentatively into the world=
 of laptop, specifically for the festival, I am putting together a stompbox=
 pedalboard comprising things that can emulate my rack setup, including 3 p=
itchshifters 2 ring modulators , right now trying to get them to sequence u=
sing a harware sequncer... this will be hopefully synch to the laptop where=
 I shall run Mobius within Live, there will be some minimal rythym programm=
ed in Live, and I am working on some patches that take random bits of the m=
obius loop and RE-loop them but from behind a collection of ADSRs and filte=
rs to add to the pre-prgrammed rythym., this will hopfully emulate somewhat=
 how I use my modular synth.<br>

<br>Im doing this WITHOUT any good, or expensive hardware however.. no nice=
 soundcards will you find in MY setup, to latency and hiss will be in integ=
ral part of the perfomance, I expect...<br><br>Or I may just loop with no e=
ffects.. did that last night for three hours and it was like a load lifted =
off my brow...<br>

<br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 15, =
2010 at 12:32 PM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loopp=
ool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Yes, =A0 Mark, =A0 =A0you HAVE to loop at Y2K-X and furthermore, =A0in real=
 time if you want to perform there.<br>
<br>
There are so many people who want to perform anywhere and there are so many=
 people who<br>
use pre-recorded loops in their live performances who want to play anywhere=
 that<br>
I have become extremely narrow on this definition for acceptance to perform=
 at the loopfestival......<br>
otherwise I would be overwhelmed with eager applicants.<br>
<br>
It is a LIVE LOOPING Festival...............not just a looping festival and=
 not a typical music festival.<br>
<br>
If anyone performs at the festival, =A0they need to have LIVE LOOPING at th=
e heart of their aesthetic<br>
and performance.<br>
<br>
I am immovable on this point. =A0 =A0 =A0I think I have to be.<br>
<br>
I had a very famous act play last years festival and though, =A0I enjoyed t=
heir performances, they just<br>
basically played over the top of pre-recorded loops. =A0 As famous as they =
are, =A0they won&#39;t be playing<br>
again this year unless they are willing to change their mode to include rea=
l time live looping:<br>
Creating musical loops in real time in front of the audience. =A0 LIVE LOOP=
ING!<br>
<br>
respectfully, =A0 Rick Walker =A0(for the Y2K-X 10th Anniversary Internatio=
nal Live Looping Festival)<br>
<br>
mark francombe wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
At YK2X, Im planning the best of both worlds... normal stompboxes, and lapt=
op for looping.. if lappy goes down... I have enough glitchy, delayish, pit=
chy, filtery, pedals, that no one will notice anyway.. in fact... maybe Ill=
 just leave the laptop at home?<br>


In the same way that one MUST use Boss and the Boss competition, =A0do I HA=
VE to loop at YK2X?<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://www.looop.no</=
a>&gt;<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markfrancomb=
e<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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Rick, maybe you have time to set up a preliminary Y2KX website and put this
plea on it, with a Paypal "send money" button, so everyone can post links to
this page. 

Maybe you could also set up a kickstarter.com project - several loopers
(Margaret Noble, Lilli Lewis) have used kickstarter to collect funding with
some success.

Loopers, let us all send money to Rick, not only to enable him to invite
Eivind Aarset but also to support him making a superhuman effort to set up
the largest livelooping festival ever.

I've sent him $100 today for a start. If we all sent him some funds, it
would make everything much easier for him. He has to work his ass off for
months, getting nothing for it financially - that's why this will be the
last large Y2K loop festival, it keeps him from doing his own creative work.
He should be supported in a real way for what he's doing for us.

-Michael

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We have "Vegas Mode" already implemented on the SoftStep. Looks great.

One think we did (because I am borderline psychotic) : you can have an action 
start the two color LED by each Key flash ata given rate. Obviously you need to 
have the light change immediately upon hitting the key, but this left is with 
possibly 10 LEDs flashing out of synch. So once activated, all LED Flashes come 
into phase over a 4 second period. Makes looking at the SoftStep even more 
coherent.

K
 Keith McMillen 
www.keithmcmillen.com 
www.beamfoundation.org 
"Music For A New Reason"



----- Original Message ----
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On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm sticking with the Little Giant tho'..
> ................the only one with a screensaver


He, he... a screensaver - how cool! In the display I guess?

I bet Keith will develop a free app that runs a random light show on
the SoftStep, percolating the leds in a classic disco light organ
fashion. Will look good on stage pre show - especially if using many
Softsteps in your rig!  ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: SoftStep latency
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You have speeds for commands that are different than the display responses. 
Displays are a world onto themselves.

Foot On and Foot Off are equally fast - 

K
 Keith McMillen 
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"Music For A New Reason"



----- Original Message ----
From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 2:24:00 AM
Subject: Re: SoftStep latency

oh, some more questions.

What's the latency on "Foot Off" function for the Softstep?
(in one of the videos it looks quite long)

...and of course it's possible to send arbitrary command on the "Foot Off".

those questions are mission critical for edp(+related loopers) users.

andy

andy butler wrote:
> great news,
> that's exactly what we wanted to hear
> 
> andy
> 
> keith mcmillen wrote:
>> Correct on the Latency.
>> MIDI Expansion module about 1ms faster when running in standalone mode.
>> You get to set where "On" is for each key. With a switch you have to make it 
>>travel until it "clicks". So you can have the SoftStep key be very snappy - 
>>without falsies.
>> I have been looping for 35 years (2 tape decks - ugh! ) and accurate is a 
>must.
>>  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org "Music For A New 
>>Reason"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 1:30:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: SoftStep latency
>> 
>> That sounds good.
>> 
>> Presumably by "driver of known latency" you mean
>> "driver latency + usb/firewire latency + A/D conversion time"?
>> 
>> 
>> How about the midi-module?
>> andy butler
>> 
>> keith mcmillen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have tested jitter using an acoustic hammer (for impulse response 
>>>measurement) with a driver of known latency. I then wrote a program that 
>>>compared the receipt of the audio when I hit a SoftStep key and the USB MIDI 
>>>receipt of message. Results were consistently 3-5 ms. Mac OSX 10.6 2.33GHZ Core 
>>>2 Duo.
>>> 
>>> Keith  Keith McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com www.beamfoundation.org "Music For A 
>>>New Reason"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 6:04:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: SoftStep Reservation list
>>> 
>>> Great news,
>>> a lot of folks been waiting for this.
>>> 
>>> What's the latency/jitter on the production model for sending a note-On?
>>> (essential for loopers)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Oh...and what about the price!
>>> 
>>> andy butler
>>> 
>>> ps. please check out the Gordius range before claiming "most versatile"
>>>   (they have a screensaver ;-)
>>>    keith mcmillen wrote:
>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>> 
>>>> SoftSteps are soon to be here. We invite you to sign up for the SoftStep 
>>>>Reservation List. We will be selling the first 100 SoftSteps directly to 
>>>>customers before they arrive in stores. In this introductory offer, we are also 
>>>>including a free Batt-O-Meter (a $34.95 value) for our first 100 SoftStep 
>>>>customers:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/reserve.php
>>>> 
>>>>     * USB-powered - connects to a computer or works standalone with MIDI
>>>>       Expander.
>>>>     * Ten multi-touch keys control up to 6 unique notes, Continuous
>>>>       Controllers,     * Program Changes, or OSC.
>>>>     * Each key picks up pressure, X and Y motion, and rotation.
>>>>     * Weighs in at just over a pound, making it ultra-portable and
>>>>       airline-friendly.
>>>>     * Super rugged design made with elastomeric and graphite
>>>>       composite... "and it's beer-proof!"
>>>>     * Four-character alphanumeric LED displays and 10 dual-color key LEDs.
>>>>     * SoftStep: the most versatile and expressive foot controller 
available.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> Keith McMillen
>>>> www.keithmcmillen.com <http://www.keithmcmillen.com>
>>>> www.beamfoundation.org <http://www.beamfoundation.org>
>>>> "Music For A New Reason"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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mark francombe schrieb:
> It was a joke Rick,
I remember when just recently, I fell for another one of your jokes ;)
> Ever since 1982 when I started looping with 2 tape decks, excluding a 
> small glitch of 8 years while I performed with a hot pop combo, I have 
> looped...
> Now I am delving tentatively into the world of laptop, specifically 
> for the festival, I am putting together a stompbox pedalboard 
> comprising things that can emulate my rack setup, including 3 
> pitchshifters 2 ring modulators , right now trying to get them to 
> sequence using a harware sequncer... this will be hopefully synch to 
> the laptop where I shall run Mobius within Live, there will be some 
> minimal rythym programmed in Live, and I am working on some patches 
> that take random bits of the mobius loop and RE-loop them but from 
> behind a collection of ADSRs and filters to add to the pre-prgrammed 
> rythym., this will hopfully emulate somewhat how I use my modular synth.
Now I have been known for some rather complex setups in the past, but 
what you describe here sounds crazy, even by my standards... could you 
please add a more detailed description, including:
    1. how does your rack setup work?
    2. what is your pedalboard like, and which h/w sequencer are you 
using (and why not use Live instead of the h/w sequencer)?
    3. I understand that you're using Live's pattern sequencer to do the 
programmed rhythms. What is your sound source (plugin perhaps)?
    4. patches that take random bits...is that some self-made kinda 
"processor looper" (built using what)? Could you describe that in more 
detail?

Yours,

             Rainer

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In yesterday's MoinSound Studio Session, I decided to pick up on mech's 
suggestion doing non-boss looping videos.

At 57:12 into the video, I decided for the encore to do something that 
can't be done with Boss loopers (not that any of the rest of the stuff 
could be done with one of them)...enjoy!

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8922832

Later on I discovered that I was actually using Boss gear - my socks 
were (Hugo) Boss ones ;)

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Hi guys,

I was wondering if any loopers employ automatic ducking?  As in, while
playing input, the volume level of the recorded loop temporarily
diminishes.  I'm having some trouble keeping track of volume in the
way I want and was wondering if there are any tricks in this regard
rather than just manually controlling levels.  Has anyone else found
themselves desiring this kind of thing, or played with it and has
opinions on the results?

cheers,
noah

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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:32 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> we've had that one before I think ;-)
>
> footage by Henry Kaiser
>

Sorry if it's a duplicate post it was new to me. I didn't notice the
Kaiser credit, but it makes sense, I know he's written about Tisziji
Munoz.

> check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
> (inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)
>

I will!
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Thank you very much for including me in your list over the summer. However,
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to read it. I am a jazz musician who actually does not use looping. But I do
have an appreciation for loop artits and their efforts. My current effort is
to narrow things down to an absolute minimum with e-mails. Thank you for
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do have an appreciation for loop artits and their efforts. My current effor=
t is to narrow things down to an absolute minimum with e-mails. Thank you f=
or unsubscribing me.... removing me from the e-mail list. Fare thee well. <=
br>
Cheers,<br>Charles Crosman<br><br>The Loopers Delight mail came to either: =
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I personally use a limiter at the end of my signal chain to keep levels in
check, its useful because it makes it so my lead instrument never sounds too
loud, and instead just sits right in the mix with everything else. Ive found
that for that to work though, I need a small monitor/amp with just my live
inputs being fed into it, so I have a louder monitor mix onstage of what Im
doing live.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Noah Adler <noah.adler@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I was wondering if any loopers employ automatic ducking?  As in, while
> playing input, the volume level of the recorded loop temporarily
> diminishes.  I'm having some trouble keeping track of volume in the
> way I want and was wondering if there are any tricks in this regard
> rather than just manually controlling levels.  Has anyone else found
> themselves desiring this kind of thing, or played with it and has
> opinions on the results?
>
> cheers,
> noah
>
>


-- 
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I personally use a limiter at the end of my signal chain to keep levels in =
check, its useful because it makes it so my lead instrument never sounds to=
o loud, and instead just sits right in the mix with everything else. Ive fo=
und that for that to work though, I need a small monitor/amp with just my l=
ive inputs being fed into it, so I have a louder monitor mix onstage of wha=
t Im doing live.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Noah Adler=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:noah.adler@gmail.com">noah.adler@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi guys,<br>
<br>
I was wondering if any loopers employ automatic ducking? =A0As in, while<br=
>
playing input, the volume level of the recorded loop temporarily<br>
diminishes. =A0I&#39;m having some trouble keeping track of volume in the<b=
r>
way I want and was wondering if there are any tricks in this regard<br>
rather than just manually controlling levels. =A0Has anyone else found<br>
themselves desiring this kind of thing, or played with it and has<br>
opinions on the results?<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">noah<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s One M=
an Band Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo=
.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11499020</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"_blank">http://www.my=
space.com/rafasonemanband</a></div>
<br>

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, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

> mark francombe schrieb:
>
>  It was a joke Rick,
>>
> I remember when just recently, I fell for another one of your jokes ;)


Hmm.. a pattern is emerging here... Note to self: you are not a comedian,
keep that face straight!

>
>  Now I have been known for some rather complex setups in the past, but what
you describe here sounds crazy, even by my standards... could you please add
a more detailed description,

Hmm now let me think... Could I.. isnt that like the BEST question looping
geeks like to here... almost never happens, of course, unless its from
looping geeks... so yes .. I think I could..!

 including:
  1. how does your rack setup work?

My rack is quite simple really, Its guitar into guitar synth. Audio signal
to mix, Synth signal to mix via Air FX. Guitar sound is made currently by
Fireworx and Vortex. Then the rack contains 3 loopers. 2 X EDPs and one
Repeater. Each of the EDPs goes to a dedicated DJ effect. The Roland EF303
and the Red Sound Federation.
Also in the rack is a drum-machine that recieves clock from EDP 1 (which
sends clock to eveything basically, except the Federation, which gets clock
from EDP 2. This EDP is brothered to EDP 1.
This set up is great, cos by altering the 8ths note speed on each EDP I can
change radically how the 2 DJ effects time based effects process, which out
being LOCKED to a midi clock value.

Thats it.. EXCEPT, that I have a modular synth, mostly Doepfer modules some
Blacet, that also recieves clock from EDP 1, and an audio signal from the
guitar channel. thus it can process my guitar via a kind of "sequenced ring
modulator" patch I have.

  2. what is your pedalboard like, and which h/w sequencer are you using
(and why not use Live instead of the h/w sequencer)?

The pedal board is under construction, mostely because Im having to fix all
these old pedals first. But its just stop boxes. 2 Boss pitch shifters
(different models.. PS3 and PS5) distortion, wah, Bitrman, Space Station
(broken, trying to fix) and a HAX ring mod (not a ring mod actually, guy who
made it to stoned to know what a ring mod is I think..

The sequncing thing is using a Frostwave Fat Controller, but todays efforts
failed. Both the Ring mod and the picth shifters have expression jacks, I
was hoping that patching CV to these jacks would work, but it doesnt, of
course its resistance changing not voltage, so Im gonna have to make a well
known circuit bending trick here. that is to stick a jack on a light
dependant resistor, and tape it to a LED that is powered from the sequencer
(this is actually called a Vactrol). So I think you see whay I cant
sequencer using Live... how to get the midi out and then into CV and then do
the same as what Im doing.. much easier to synch the Frostwave from the midi
out jack and try and use that..
Im not saying Ill ever get it working tho...!!!

  3. I understand that you're using Live's pattern sequencer to do the
programmed rhythms. What is your sound source (plugin perhaps)?
Nope just samples in Live.. remember Im a newbi in Live.. its kinda basic...

  4. patches that take random bits...is that some self-made kinda "processor
looper" (built using what)? Could you describe that in more detail?

Well.. I said I was "working on".. again.. not sure what I will acheive, but
please dont imagine Im doing anything max/msp -ish here.. nothing clever at
all... Im first working on getting sound from a Mobius chanell into its own
effected channel, (Is there any other way than using the send?) I have 1
send sending things to Mobius, and then the other send is 1 track of Mobius
(maybe Ill just simplifiy and have the mix of Mobius) .. Now I just have a
one of these choppy effects feeding a delay, this is basically chopping
random bits out of Mobius and the delay is RE-looping it, albeit once
(feedback at 0)... NOW I want to PROGRAM a envelope shaping VCA (Synth
terminology) but havent found the right way to do this yet... in a rythym..
Thats it basically.. so NO.. Im not writing something.. I did do some of tis
once, but that was on a PC, and now Im on a mac, I havent found a solution
to SynthEdit.

Thats it...

Yours.. Mark


mark francombe
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, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googl=
email.com">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"=
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mark francombe schrieb:<div class=3D"im"><br>
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r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
It was a joke Rick,<br>
</blockquote></div>
I remember when just recently, I fell for another one of your jokes ;)</blo=
ckquote><div><br>Hmm.. a pattern is emerging here... Note to self: you are =
not a comedian, keep that face straight!<br><div class=3D"im"><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px s=
olid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

<br>
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Now I have been known for some rather complex setups in the past, but what =
you describe here sounds crazy, even by my standards... could you please ad=
d a more detailed description,<br><br>Hmm now let me think... Could I.. isn=
t that like the BEST question looping geeks like to here... almost never ha=
ppens, of course, unless its from looping geeks... so yes .. I think I coul=
d..!<br>

<br>=A0including:<br>
 =A0 1. how does your rack setup work?<br><br>My rack is quite simple reall=
y, Its guitar into guitar synth. Audio signal to mix, Synth signal to mix v=
ia Air FX. Guitar sound is made currently by Fireworx and Vortex. Then the =
rack contains 3 loopers. 2 X EDPs and one Repeater. Each of the EDPs goes t=
o a dedicated DJ effect. The Roland EF303 and the Red Sound Federation. <br=
>

Also in the rack is a drum-machine that recieves clock from EDP 1 (which se=
nds clock to eveything basically, except the Federation, which gets clock f=
rom EDP 2. This EDP is brothered to EDP 1. <br>This set up is great, cos by=
 altering the 8ths note speed on each EDP I can change radically how the 2 =
DJ effects time based effects process, which out being LOCKED to a midi clo=
ck value.<br>

<br>Thats it.. EXCEPT, that I have a modular synth, mostly Doepfer modules =
some Blacet, that also recieves clock from EDP 1, and an audio signal from =
the guitar channel. thus it can process my guitar via a kind of &quot;seque=
nced ring modulator&quot; patch I have.<br>

<br>
 =A0 2. what is your pedalboard like, and which h/w sequencer are you using=
 (and why not use Live instead of the h/w sequencer)?<br><br>The pedal boar=
d is under construction, mostely because Im having to fix all these old ped=
als first. But its just stop boxes. 2 Boss pitch shifters (different models=
.. PS3 and PS5) distortion, wah, Bitrman, Space Station (broken, trying to =
fix) and a HAX ring mod (not a ring mod actually, guy who made it to stoned=
 to know what a ring mod is I think..<br>

<br>The sequncing thing is using a Frostwave Fat Controller, but todays eff=
orts failed. Both the Ring mod and the picth shifters have expression jacks=
, I was hoping that patching CV to these jacks would work, but it doesnt, o=
f course its resistance changing not voltage, so Im gonna have to make a we=
ll known circuit bending trick here. that is to stick a jack on a light dep=
endant resistor, and tape it to a LED that is powered from the sequencer (t=
his is actually called a Vactrol). So I think you see whay I cant sequencer=
 using Live... how to get the midi out and then into CV and then do the sam=
e as what Im doing.. much easier to synch the Frostwave from the midi out j=
ack and try and use that.. <br>

Im not saying Ill ever get it working tho...!!!<br><br>
 =A0 3. I understand that you&#39;re using Live&#39;s pattern sequencer to =
do the programmed rhythms. What is your sound source (plugin perhaps)?<br>N=
ope just samples in Live.. remember Im a newbi in Live.. its kinda basic...=
<br>

<br>
 =A0 4. patches that take random bits...is that some self-made kinda &quot;=
processor looper&quot; (built using what)? Could you describe that in more =
detail?<br><br>Well.. I said I was &quot;working on&quot;.. again.. not sur=
e what I will acheive, but please dont imagine Im doing anything max/msp -i=
sh here.. nothing clever at all... Im first working on getting sound from a=
 Mobius chanell into its own effected channel, (Is there any other way than=
 using the send?) I have 1 send sending things to Mobius, and then the othe=
r send is 1 track of Mobius (maybe Ill just simplifiy and have the mix of M=
obius) .. Now I just have a one of these choppy effects feeding a delay, th=
is is basically chopping random bits out of Mobius and the delay is RE-loop=
ing it, albeit once (feedback at 0)... NOW I want to PROGRAM a envelope sha=
ping VCA (Synth terminology) but havent found the right way to do this yet.=
.. in a rythym.. <br>

Thats it basically.. so NO.. Im not writing something.. I did do some of ti=
s once, but that was on a PC, and now Im on a mac, I havent found a solutio=
n to SynthEdit.<br><br>Thats it...<br><br>Yours.. Mark<br><br><br>mark fran=
combe<br>

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/a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twit=
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com/user825094</a><br>

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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> NOW I want to PROGRAM a envelope shaping VCA (Synth terminology) but havent
> found the right way to do this yet... in a rythym..
>

And NOW I have.. hurrah for Live.. simple too!

Gate with side chain.. lovely!

M

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<div>NOW I want to PROGRAM a envelope shaping VCA (Synth terminology) but h=
avent found the right way to do this yet... in a rythym.. </div></blockquot=
e></div><br>And NOW I have.. hurrah for Live.. simple too!<br><br>Gate with=
 side chain.. lovely!<br>

<br>M<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
arkfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoab=
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Noah Adler <noah.adler@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering if any loopers employ automatic ducking?


Yes, always! The source signal for the ducking process is usually my
live audio input and the target signal, that is being ducked, could be
either a loops existing layers or some effect like a delay or a
reverb.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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<blush>   thank you for the generosity of your sentiment, Michael.  It 
means more than I can say.

rick

Michael Peters wrote:
> Rick, maybe you have time to set up a preliminary Y2KX website and put this
> plea on it, with a Paypal "send money" button, so everyone can post links to
> this page. 
>
> Maybe you could also set up a kickstarter.com project - several loopers
> (Margaret Noble, Lilli Lewis) have used kickstarter to collect funding with
> some success.
>
> Loopers, let us all send money to Rick, not only to enable him to invite
> Eivind Aarset but also to support him making a superhuman effort to set up
> the largest livelooping festival ever.
>
> I've sent him $100 today for a start. If we all sent him some funds, it
> would make everything much easier for him. He has to work his ass off for
> months, getting nothing for it financially - that's why this will be the
> last large Y2K loop festival, it keeps him from doing his own creative work.
> He should be supported in a real way for what he's doing for us.
>
> -Michael
>   

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ahhhh,&nbsp;&nbsp; forgive me.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was really freaking out about the festival
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humor.<br>
<br>
I'm so thrilled that you and everyone else is coming.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Truly I
am,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
love, Rick<br>
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Couldn't you just arm the first loop to end when it's finished and arm a second loop to start recording when the first loop ends as well? Once the second loop is created you could begin overdubs and feedback would not need to be changed at all (always set to 100%). Wouldn't that work?

G




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>Sent: Aug 14, 2010 2:14 PM
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>
>Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the EDP or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I think of this as being essentially smart replace.
>
>Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
>
>One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically to 100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
>
>Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% feedback.
>
>The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
>
>Does anyone know of something that will do this?
>
>Mark
>

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That assumes that I want to do things on loop boundaries. If I can live =
with working on loop boundaries, a lot of things become easier. But =
maybe I feel that the new loop should start midway through the existing =
cycle but eventually replace the old cycle. The loop boundary in that =
case is somewhat arbitrary and simply an artifact of the initial =
recording. What may matter is the loop time. I could potentially =
explicitly change the loop start point, but that might needlessly =
disturb any tempo clocks being generated by the looper.

Mark

On Aug 15, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Grant wrote:

> Couldn't you just arm the first loop to end when it's finished and arm =
a second loop to start recording when the first loop ends as well? Once =
the second loop is created you could begin overdubs and feedback would =
not need to be changed at all (always set to 100%). Wouldn't that work?
>=20
> G
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
>> Sent: Aug 14, 2010 2:14 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: The loop effect I'm wanting today: A smart replace
>>=20
>> Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the =
EDP or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I =
think of this as being essentially smart replace.
>>=20
>> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through =
but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
>>=20
>> One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically =
to 100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
>>=20
>> Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% =
feedback.
>>=20
>> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch =
from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up =
on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to =
achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
>>=20
>> Does anyone know of something that will do this?
>>=20
>> Mark
>>=20
>=20
>=20

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Mark Hamburg wrote:
> That assumes that I want to do things on loop boundaries.
> If I can live with working on loop boundaries, 
>a lot of things become easier. But maybe I feel that the new loop should
> start midway through the existing cycle but eventually replace the old cycle. 
> The loop boundary in that case is somewhat arbitrary and simply an artifact 
>of the initial recording. What may matter is the loop time. I could potentially 
>explicitly change the loop start point, but that might needlessly disturb any 
>tempo clocks being generated by the looper.

only the EDP supports changing the loopstart point,
should be ok for generated clocks.

Here's the howto for LP1 (I hope).
Anyway, it *has* to be a matter of recording a new loop,
then stopping the old.


Next>SyncRecord>SyncRecord>Prev>StopNow>Next

not sure if putting 2 syncrecords together will do the rounding.

Don't have rig set up now.
(thanks to an egomaniac canned looper kid and his dad as it happens).

andy


> 
> Mark
> 
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Grant wrote:
> 
>> Couldn't you just arm the first loop to end when it's finished and arm a second loop to start recording when the first loop ends as well? Once the second loop is created you could begin overdubs and feedback would not need to be changed at all (always set to 100%). Wouldn't that work?
>>
>> G
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>
>>> Sent: Aug 14, 2010 2:14 PM
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Subject: The loop effect I'm wanting today: A smart replace
>>>
>>> Here is what I find myself wanting today. I don't think either the EDP or the Looperlative can be readily programmed to do just this. I think of this as being essentially smart replace.
>>>
>>> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays through but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.
>>>
>>> One cycle later relative to the initial tap it switches automatically to 100% overdub so that the new loop can end up seamless.
>>>
>>> Tap the pedal again and it stops recording but stays at 100% feedback.
>>>
>>> The tricky part relative to existing loopers is the automatic switch from 0% feedback to full feedback at the one cycle mark. If one gave up on the ability to tap at arbitrary times, then it might be possible to achieve this with a quantized sequence of operations.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of something that will do this?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:20 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Mark Hamburg wrote:
>> That assumes that I want to do things on loop boundaries.
>> If I can live with working on loop boundaries, a lot of things become =
easier. But maybe I feel that the new loop should
>> start midway through the existing cycle but eventually replace the =
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looper.
>=20
> only the EDP supports changing the loopstart point,
> should be ok for generated clocks.
>=20
> Here's the howto for LP1 (I hope).
> Anyway, it *has* to be a matter of recording a new loop,
> then stopping the old.
>=20
>=20
> Next>SyncRecord>SyncRecord>Prev>StopNow>Next
>=20
> not sure if putting 2 syncrecords together will do the rounding.
>=20
> Don't have rig set up now.
> (thanks to an egomaniac canned looper kid and his dad as it happens).

Clever. Assuming SyncRecord waits until it finishes before moving to the =
next command, this would work. I need to remember that the Looperlative =
provides lots of loops to play with and the answer may well be to use =
more than one loop.

Of course, that then argues for a "Delete this loop" command so that =
everything could slide down and room could be retained at the top of the =
stack. Maybe some form of bounce. I'll have to study the options =
further.

Mark

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Henry did all the underwater cinematography. There's a bonus feature on =
the DVD that's all his underwater work. Amazing!

On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:01 AM, <fh@flatheadband.com> wrote:

> great film...
>=20
> check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
> (inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)
>=20

David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
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I admire the bold randomness of the off-topic designation :-)

There's more Kaiser footage in "Wide Blue Yonder".
(no loops on that one tho')

andy

fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> great film...
> 
> 
> 
>     check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
>     (inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)
> 

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These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTZB0UUngs&feature=related

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is this a joke?

- jim

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTZB0UUngs&feature=related
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is this a joke?<br><br>- jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug =
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"Concept Art" or "joke" is just a matter of who is listening, I guess.
Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?
And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?
Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?
Something's fishy here...

- per ;-)


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> is this a joke?
>
> - jim
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>
>> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
>> 8 track looping record. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pretty cool.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&feature=3Drelated
>>
>
>

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>>> Tap pedal and it goes into "replace" mode. The old loop plays  
>>> through but does so at 0% feedback so that it won't repeat again.

I'm not really sure I understand your question Mark but here goes,
use the replace + original  function to do this,  and make sure to  
make the second press occur at the original loop point,
  or better yet, use  quantize replace + original  set to a factor of  
1, double that command on a preset, in other words have a command  
that  uses quantize replace+ original twice, that way you only have to  
hit the preset switch one time and it will act like a sus command that  
opens and replaces content while you can still here the original loop  
until the cycle is completed and then the new loop takes over. I don't  
think you will even have to deal with changing the feedback, but you  
could always add feedback %100 to the preset you created for quantize  
replace. Bear in mind that replace functions don't change the initial  
feedback settings either in strait replace mode which is what I use  
allot or replace + original which I rarely use.  And try using more  
tracks, which is what the LP-1 was designed to do.

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hmmm, very interesting but how do the links appear at just that part of the
video I wonder!? They are not encoded in the video. Further searching
his videos gives you this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&feature=3Drelated
this one has links in the description for some very interesting stuff, or
just go here: http://www.niklasroy.com/ quite a character! And the other
half of Laser "Jari" is also very creative
http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/ with circut bending and audio graffiti. =
I
haven't found info on the actual performing of the "tracks' however...:)

Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest things!

j

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Concept Art" or "joke" is just a matter of who is listening, I guess.
> Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?
> And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?
> Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?
> Something's fishy here...
>
> - per ;-)
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > is this a joke?
> >
> > - jim
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
> >> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&feature=3Drelated
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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<div>Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest things!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>j </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>{o,o}<br>|)__)<br>-=94-=94-</div>
<div>=A0</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:=
35 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.c=
om">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
&quot;Concept Art&quot; or &quot;joke&quot; is just a matter of who is list=
ening, I guess.<br>
Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?<br>
And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?<br>
Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?<br>
Something&#39;s fishy here...<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
- per ;-)<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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ke@gmail.com">twostroke@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; is this a joke?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - jim<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loo=
ppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an<br>
&gt;&gt; 8 track looping record. =A0 =A0Pretty cool.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&amp;featur=
e=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs=
&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Jeff,
these links are just YouTube Annotations, read here...
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D3Den&answer=3D9271=
0

and I agree... interesting and cool dudes...

Mark





On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> wrote:

> hmmm, very interesting but how do the links appear at just that part of t=
he
> video I wonder!? They are not encoded in the video. Further searching
> his videos gives you this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&feature=3Drelated
> this one has links in the description for some very interesting stuff, or
> just go here: http://www.niklasroy.com/ quite a character! And the other
> half of Laser "Jari" is also very creative
> http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/ with circut bending and audio graffiti=
.
> I haven't found info on the actual performing of the "tracks' however...:=
)
>
> Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest things!
>
> j
>
> {o,o}
> |)__)
> -=94-=94-
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Concept Art" or "joke" is just a matter of who is listening, I guess.
>> Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?
>> And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?
>> Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?
>> Something's fishy here...
>>
>> - per ;-)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > is this a joke?
>> >
>> > - jim
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
>> >> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&feature=3Drelated
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


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Jeff,<br>these links are just YouTube Annotations, read here...<br><a href=
=3D"http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D3Den&amp;answe=
r=3D92710">http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D3Den&am=
p;answer=3D92710</a><br>

<br>and I agree... interesting and cool dudes...<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Jeff =
Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffloops@gmail.com">jeffloops=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div>hmmm, very i=
nteresting but how do the links appear at just that part of the=20
video I wonder!? They are not encoded in the video. Further searching his=
=A0videos gives you=20
this: <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&amp;feature=
=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&=
amp;feature=3Drelated</a></div>
<div>this one has links in the description for some very interesting stuff,=
 or=20
just go here: <a href=3D"http://www.niklasroy.com/" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.niklasroy.com/</a>=A0quite a=20
character! And the other half of Laser &quot;Jari&quot; is also very creati=
ve <a href=3D"http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/</a>=A0with=20
circut bending and audio graffiti. I haven&#39;t found info on the actual p=
erforming=20
of the &quot;tracks&#39; however...:)</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest things!</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>j </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>{o,o}<br>|)__)<br>-=94-=94-</div>
<div>=A0</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:=
35 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204=
); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">


&quot;Concept Art&quot; or &quot;joke&quot; is just a matter of who is list=
ening, I guess.<br>
Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?<br>
And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?<br>
Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?<br>
Something&#39;s fishy here...<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
- per ;-)<br>
</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:twostro=
ke@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">twostroke@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; is this a joke?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - jim<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loo=
ppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an<br>
&gt;&gt; 8 track looping record. =A0 =A0Pretty cool.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&amp;featur=
e=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs=
&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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ha, after I sent that I looked around and found that out. Funny I never =
noticed that even though I have been seeing these for awhile. I will be =
using that soon :)

thanks,

Jeff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mark francombe=20
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Laser Cut Loop Vinyl Duo


  Jeff,
  these links are just YouTube Annotations, read here...
  =
http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D3Den&answer=3D92=
710

  and I agree... interesting and cool dudes...

  Mark






  On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Jeff Duke <jeffloops@gmail.com> =
wrote:

    hmmm, very interesting but how do the links appear at just that part =
of the video I wonder!? They are not encoded in the video. Further =
searching his videos gives you this: =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&feature=3Drelated
    this one has links in the description for some very interesting =
stuff, or just go here: http://www.niklasroy.com/ quite a character! And =
the other half of Laser "Jari" is also very creative =
http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/ with circut bending and audio =
graffiti. I haven't found info on the actual performing of the "tracks' =
however...:)

    Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest things!

    j=20

    {o,o}
    |)__)
    -=94-=94-




    On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> =
wrote:

      "Concept Art" or "joke" is just a matter of who is listening, I =
guess.
      Anyway, wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?
      And what will they sound like when played simultaneously?
      Why is not the other part of the duo present in the video?
      Something's fishy here...

      - per ;-)



      On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler =
<twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
      > is this a joke?
      >
      > - jim
      >
      > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Rick Walker =
<looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
      >>
      >> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
      >> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
      >>
      >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&feature=3Drelated
      >>
      >
      >







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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Jeff,<BR>these links are just YouTube Annotations, read =

  here...<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D3Den&amp=
;answer=3D92710">http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=3D=
3Den&amp;answer=3D92710</A><BR><BR>and=20
  I agree... interesting and cool =
dudes...<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<SPAN=20
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    <DIV>hmmm, very interesting but how do the links appear at just that =
part of=20
    the video I wonder!? They are not encoded in the video. Further =
searching=20
    his&nbsp;videos gives you this: <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&amp;feature=3Drelate=
d"=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8ccS02dbU&amp;feature=3D=
related</A></DIV>
    <DIV>this one has links in the description for some very interesting =
stuff,=20
    or just go here: <A href=3D"http://www.niklasroy.com/"=20
    target=3D_blank>http://www.niklasroy.com/</A>&nbsp;quite a =
character! And the=20
    other half of Laser "Jari" is also very creative <A=20
    href=3D"http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/"=20
    target=3D_blank>http://www.tasankokaiku.com/jarse/</A>&nbsp;with =
circut=20
    bending and audio graffiti. I haven't found info on the actual =
performing of=20
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    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Thanks to you Rick! As always you find the coolest =
things!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>j </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>{o,o}<BR>|)__)<BR>-=94-=94-</DIV>
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    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Per Boysen =
<SPAN=20
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rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">"Concept=20
      Art" or "joke" is just a matter of who is listening, I =
guess.<BR>Anyway,=20
      wonder if the eight pieces were composed or improvised?<BR>And =
what will=20
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other part=20
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here...<BR><FONT=20
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      <DIV>
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      <DIV><BR><BR>On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:19 PM, james fowler &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:twostroke@gmail.com"=20
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a=20
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at 3:04=20
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interesting and funny. Reminds me of an idea I once had for a vinyl release
that would have lots of concentric circular tracks, instead of one spiral
track.

I also like the Philips Philicorda organ underneath the record player, very
retro, very stylish :)

-Michael

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I seem to recall that in the late 70s Mad Magazine put out a vinyl disc that 
indeed had multiple concentric tracks.  One never knew which would play...

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> interesting and funny. Reminds me of an idea I once had for a vinyl 
> release
> that would have lots of concentric circular tracks, instead of one spiral
> track.
>
> I also like the Philips Philicorda organ underneath the record player, 
> very
> retro, very stylish :)
>
> -Michael 

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Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief was "3-sided", as was one =
of Todd Rundgren's LPs (I think).

On Aug 17, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> I seem to recall that in the late 70s Mad Magazine put out a vinyl =
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would play...
>=20
> --------------------------------------------------
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>> track.
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player, very
>> retro, very stylish :)
>>=20
>> -Michael=20
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Mony Python albums had concentric tracks too - cool idea and VERY funny!

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Strange.
www.christojota.de

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> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTZB0UUngs&feature=related
> 

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Interesting idea,

the run off groove of any vinyl can be scratched mechanically to 
get an equivalent effect.


I've actually heard run offs that were much more interesting,
perhaps partly because the reason for some of the sounds was unfathomable,
those not being examples of a deliberate cut into the run off.
Can never remember which lps, it's usually a nice surprise,
I think one is some Vietnamese music from Smithsonian Folkways.

andy

Sorry squire, scratched the record.

Rick Walker wrote:
> These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
> 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTZB0UUngs&feature=related
> 
> 

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The end of The Beatles "Srgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"

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> Interesting idea,
>=20
> the run off groove of any vinyl can be scratched mechanically to=20
> get an equivalent effect.
>=20
>=20
> I've actually heard run offs that were much more interesting,
> perhaps partly because the reason for some of the sounds was unfathomable,
> those not being examples of a deliberate cut into the run off.
> Can never remember which lps, it's usually a nice surprise,
> I think one is some Vietnamese music from Smithsonian Folkways.
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> andy
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> Sorry squire, scratched the record.
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> Rick Walker wrote:
> > These guys are cutting vinyl with laser and have released an
> > 8 track looping record.    Pretty cool.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DamTZB0UUngs&feature=3Drelated
> >
> >

>



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Mark Showalter wrote:
> The end of The Beatles "Srgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
> 

Pink Floyd Echoes

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I believe some releases of Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother also did this.
Sylvain


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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>> The end of The Beatles "Srgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
>>
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> Pink Floyd Echoes
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Enjoyed that a lot.

Thanks!

On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Nadia Salom wrote:

> Dear Looper Community,
>
> I am making my music available to download on the internet. You can  
> now download the whole album or individual tracks and listen anytime  
> you want to. Payment starts at 0.00 or if anyone may feel inclined  
> to pay more, this  is of course welcome. In any case I am happy just  
> to know if someone out there is enjoying it.
>
> The album is called: "In understanding everything as process," Live  
> Loop Voice Improvisations from May 22nd to August 12th, by Nadia  
> Salom.
>
> LINK: http://nirmala07.bandcamp.com/
>
> Best wishes,
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> -- 
> http://www.nirmala07.net

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That's a great idea.
I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:

*2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED
STATES AND*

*DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.*


And they still call it "World Championship", WTF?

I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest then...

Cheers,
Alexandre Klinke
(Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love this idea!!
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:
>
>  At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in
>>> my estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the
>>> number of world class live looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, I
>>> think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competition an "
>>> international championship".
>>>
>>> Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to hosting
>>> a true and fair international competition for live looping that included
>>> loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear, both
>>> hardware and software.
>>>
>>> Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with
>>> anyone else here?
>>>
>>
>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>
>>                ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>
>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube.
>> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen
>> these entries.
>>
>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>
>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only
>> loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, your
>> EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape
>> delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....
>> WHATEVER.
>>
>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube:
>> simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so
>> they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the
>> contest.
>>
>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss'
>> marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more
>> about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use this to
>> promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>
>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may be
>> another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can help
>> open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the
>> Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally
>> start to pay attention.
>>
>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that
>> this contest is by no means an "international championship", and that there
>> are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Some of these
>> people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in their art.
>>  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES
>> WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing hacks with an
>> advertising budget trying to shill a product.
>>
>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>
>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great
>> people.
>>
>> Let's show them!
>>
>>        --mech.
>> --
>> _____
>> "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one
>> step..."
>>
>>
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That&#39;s a great idea.<div>I got even more pissed off after reading the r=
egulations of the contest:</div><div><br></div><div><p style=3D"margin: 0.0=
px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 10.0px Arial"><b>2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN O=
NLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATES AND</b></p>

<p style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 10.0px Arial"><b>DISTRIC=
T OF COLUMBIA.</b></p><p style=3D"margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 10=
.0px Arial"><br></p>And they still call it &quot;World Championship&quot;, =
WTF?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijac=
k the contest then...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Alexandre =
Klinke</div><div>(Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear=
)</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at =
4:43 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toeja=
mpc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I love this idea!!<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in my=
 estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the num=
ber of world class live looping artists who don&#39;t even use Boss gear, I=
 think it&#39;s a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competitio=
n an &quot; international championship&quot;.<br>

<br>
Something tells me that Boss&#39; marketing team would not be open to hosti=
ng a true and fair international competition for live looping that included=
 loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear, both =
hardware and software.<br>

<br>
Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with anyone =
else here?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well then, here&#39;s an idea...<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0~LET&quot;S HIJACK THE CONTEST~<br>
<br>
It&#39;s a public contest. =A0All the videos are made available on YouTube.=
 Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen=
 these entries.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s add some Art into their commerce. =A0Here&#39;s how:<br>
<br>
Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only l=
oopers. =A0Post all the great music you&#39;ve made using your Looperlative=
, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old=
 tape delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....=
 WHATEVER.<br>

<br>
This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: s=
imply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so t=
hey can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the =
contest.<br>

<br>
Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss&#39=
; marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn mo=
re about Looping. =A0Use this as a vehicle for positive education. =A0Use t=
his to promote Loopers-Delight!!!<br>

<br>
Somebody *will* watch. =A0It may be a potential listener or fan. =A0It may =
be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can hel=
p open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the=
 Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they&#39;ll final=
ly start to pay attention.<br>

<br>
We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don&#39;t own Looping, th=
at this contest is by no means an &quot;international championship&quot;, a=
nd that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.=
 =A0Some of these people use Boss products. =A0Some use other products and =
tools in their art. =A0But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC=
 and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless mar=
keting hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.<br>

<br>
Send a message. =A0Tools don&#39;t make great music. =A0People do.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great peo=
ple.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s show them!<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--mech.<br>
-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than o=
ne step...&quot;<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alexandre Klinke <
alexandre.klinke@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a great idea.
> I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:
>
> *2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED
> STATES AND*
>
> *DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.*
>
>
> And they still call it "World Championship", WTF?
>
> I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest
> then...
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre Klinke
> (Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love this idea!!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:
>>
>>  At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in
>>>> my estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the
>>>> number of world class live looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, I
>>>> think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competition an "
>>>> international championship".
>>>>
>>>> Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to
>>>> hosting a true and fair international competition for live looping that
>>>> included loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping
>>>> gear, both hardware and software.
>>>>
>>>> Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with
>>>> anyone else here?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>>
>>>                ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>>
>>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube.
>>> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen
>>> these entries.
>>>
>>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>>
>>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only
>>> loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, your
>>> EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape
>>> delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....
>>> WHATEVER.
>>>
>>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube:
>>> simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so
>>> they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the
>>> contest.
>>>
>>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss'
>>> marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more
>>> about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use this to
>>> promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>>
>>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may be
>>> another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can help
>>> open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the
>>> Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally
>>> start to pay attention.
>>>
>>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that
>>> this contest is by no means an "international championship", and that there
>>> are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Some of these
>>> people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in their art.
>>>  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES
>>> WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing hacks with an
>>> advertising budget trying to shill a product.
>>>
>>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>>
>>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Let's show them!
>>>
>>>        --mech.
>>> --
>>> _____
>>> "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one
>>> step..."
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alexand=
re Klinke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alexandre.klinke@gmail.co=
m">alexandre.klinke@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
That&#39;s a great idea.<div>I got even more pissed off after reading the r=
egulations of the contest:</div><div><br></div><div><p style=3D"margin: 0px=
; font: 10px Arial;"><b>2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENT=
S OF THE 50 UNITED STATES AND</b></p>


<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font: 10px Arial;"><b>DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.</b></p=
><p style=3D"margin: 0px; font: 10px Arial;"><br></p>And they still call it=
 &quot;World Championship&quot;, WTF?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijac=
k the contest then...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Alexandre =
Klinke</div><div>(Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear=
)</div>

<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at =
4:43 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

I love this idea!!<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in my=
 estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the num=
ber of world class live looping artists who don&#39;t even use Boss gear, I=
 think it&#39;s a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competitio=
n an &quot; international championship&quot;.<br>


<br>
Something tells me that Boss&#39; marketing team would not be open to hosti=
ng a true and fair international competition for live looping that included=
 loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear, both =
hardware and software.<br>


<br>
Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with anyone =
else here?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well then, here&#39;s an idea...<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0~LET&quot;S HIJACK THE CONTEST~<br>
<br>
It&#39;s a public contest. =A0All the videos are made available on YouTube.=
 Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen=
 these entries.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s add some Art into their commerce. =A0Here&#39;s how:<br>
<br>
Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only l=
oopers. =A0Post all the great music you&#39;ve made using your Looperlative=
, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old=
 tape delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....=
 WHATEVER.<br>


<br>
This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: s=
imply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so t=
hey can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the =
contest.<br>


<br>
Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss&#39=
; marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn mo=
re about Looping. =A0Use this as a vehicle for positive education. =A0Use t=
his to promote Loopers-Delight!!!<br>


<br>
Somebody *will* watch. =A0It may be a potential listener or fan. =A0It may =
be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can hel=
p open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the=
 Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they&#39;ll final=
ly start to pay attention.<br>


<br>
We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don&#39;t own Looping, th=
at this contest is by no means an &quot;international championship&quot;, a=
nd that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.=
 =A0Some of these people use Boss products. =A0Some use other products and =
tools in their art. =A0But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC=
 and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless mar=
keting hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.<br>


<br>
Send a message. =A0Tools don&#39;t make great music. =A0People do.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great peo=
ple.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s show them!<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--mech.<br>
-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than o=
ne step...&quot;<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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WOW!!! That is AMAZING!!! It's literally not at all international!!
Preposterous...

 I Too am Brazilian actually(Faaaaala, tranquilo?! :-) ) But live in the
states. I don't however use any Boss equipment, unless an fs-5 footswitch
counts hehehe. I am all about hijacking this thing! Seems to me a worthy
cause.



On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alexandre Klinke <
alexandre.klinke@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's a great idea.
> I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:
>
> *2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED
> STATES AND*
>
> *DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.*
>
>
> And they still call it "World Championship", WTF?
>
> I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest
> then...
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre Klinke
> (Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love this idea!!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:
>>
>>  At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in
>>>> my estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the
>>>> number of world class live looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, I
>>>> think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competition an "
>>>> international championship".
>>>>
>>>> Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to
>>>> hosting a true and fair international competition for live looping that
>>>> included loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping
>>>> gear, both hardware and software.
>>>>
>>>> Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with
>>>> anyone else here?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, here's an idea...
>>>
>>>                ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~
>>>
>>> It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube.
>>> Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen
>>> these entries.
>>>
>>> Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:
>>>
>>> Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only
>>> loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, your
>>> EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape
>>> delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....
>>> WHATEVER.
>>>
>>> This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube:
>>> simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so
>>> they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the
>>> contest.
>>>
>>> Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss'
>>> marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more
>>> about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use this to
>>> promote Loopers-Delight!!!
>>>
>>> Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may be
>>> another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can help
>>> open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the
>>> Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally
>>> start to pay attention.
>>>
>>> We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that
>>> this contest is by no means an "international championship", and that there
>>> are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Some of these
>>> people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in their art.
>>>  But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES
>>> WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing hacks with an
>>> advertising budget trying to shill a product.
>>>
>>> Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.
>>>
>>> There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Let's show them!
>>>
>>>        --mech.
>>> --
>>> _____
>>> "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one
>>> step..."
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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WOW!!! That is AMAZING!!! It&#39;s literally not at all international!! Pre=
posterous...<div><br></div><div>=A0I Too am Brazilian actually(Faaaaala, tr=
anquilo?! :-) ) But live in the states. I don&#39;t however use any Boss eq=
uipment, unless an fs-5 footswitch counts hehehe. I am all about hijacking =
this thing! Seems to me a worthy cause.<div>
<br></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4=
:43 PM, Alexandre Klinke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alexandre.=
klinke@gmail.com">alexandre.klinke@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex;">
That&#39;s a great idea.<div>I got even more pissed off after reading the r=
egulations of the contest:</div><div><br></div><div><p style=3D"margin:0.0p=
x 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:10.0px Arial"><b>2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY=
 TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATES AND</b></p>


<p style=3D"margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:10.0px Arial"><b>DISTRICT O=
F COLUMBIA.</b></p><p style=3D"margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:10.0px A=
rial"><br></p>And they still call it &quot;World Championship&quot;, WTF?</=
div>

<div><br></div><div>I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijac=
k the contest then...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Alexandre =
Klinke</div><font color=3D"#888888"><div>(Brazilian, living in Canada and l=
ooping without Boss gear)</div>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at =
4:43 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

I love this idea!!<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in my=
 estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the num=
ber of world class live looping artists who don&#39;t even use Boss gear, I=
 think it&#39;s a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competitio=
n an &quot; international championship&quot;.<br>


<br>
Something tells me that Boss&#39; marketing team would not be open to hosti=
ng a true and fair international competition for live looping that included=
 loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear, both =
hardware and software.<br>


<br>
Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with anyone =
else here?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well then, here&#39;s an idea...<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0~LET&quot;S HIJACK THE CONTEST~<br>
<br>
It&#39;s a public contest. =A0All the videos are made available on YouTube.=
 Also, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen=
 these entries.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s add some Art into their commerce. =A0Here&#39;s how:<br>
<br>
Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only l=
oopers. =A0Post all the great music you&#39;ve made using your Looperlative=
, your EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old=
 tape delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling....=
 WHATEVER.<br>


<br>
This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: s=
imply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so t=
hey can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the =
contest.<br>


<br>
Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss&#39=
; marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn mo=
re about Looping. =A0Use this as a vehicle for positive education. =A0Use t=
his to promote Loopers-Delight!!!<br>


<br>
Somebody *will* watch. =A0It may be a potential listener or fan. =A0It may =
be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can hel=
p open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the=
 Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they&#39;ll final=
ly start to pay attention.<br>


<br>
We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don&#39;t own Looping, th=
at this contest is by no means an &quot;international championship&quot;, a=
nd that there are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.=
 =A0Some of these people use Boss products. =A0Some use other products and =
tools in their art. =A0But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC=
 and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless mar=
keting hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.<br>


<br>
Send a message. =A0Tools don&#39;t make great music. =A0People do.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great peo=
ple.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s show them!<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--mech.<br>
-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than o=
ne step...&quot;<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s =
One Man Band Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo=
.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11499020</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"_blank">http://www.my=
space.com/rafasonemanband</a></div>
<br>
</div></div>

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Thank you Ted and Halim for your feedback. I appreciate it a lot.
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> Enjoyed that a lot.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Nadia Salom wrote:
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>> Dear Looper Community,
>>
>> I am making my music available to download on the internet. You can 
>> now download the whole album or individual tracks and listen anytime 
>> you want to. Payment starts at 0.00 or if anyone may feel inclined to 
>> pay more, this  is of course welcome. In any case I am happy just to 
>> know if someone out there is enjoying it.
>>
>> The album is called: "In understanding everything as process," Live 
>> Loop Voice Improvisations from May 22nd to August 12th, by Nadia Salom.
>>
>> LINK: http://nirmala07.bandcamp.com/
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>> Best wishes,
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  <br>
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    <br>
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    <br>
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    <br>
Best wishes,
    <br>
Nadia Salom
    <br>
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It's an outrage - you can't enter if you live in the coutry where these thi=
ngs are made...

=20

G
=20


Date: Tue=2C 17 Aug 2010 19:54:42 -0700
Subject: Re: Boss "International Championship" [SIC]....
From: supersimples@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

WOW!!! That is AMAZING!!! It's literally not at all international!! Prepost=
erous...


 I Too am Brazilian actually(Faaaaala=2C tranquilo?! :-) ) But live in the =
states. I don't however use any Boss equipment=2C unless an fs-5 footswitch=
 counts hehehe. I am all about hijacking this thing! Seems to me a worthy c=
ause.





On Tue=2C Aug 17=2C 2010 at 4:43 PM=2C Alexandre Klinke <alexandre.klinke@g=
mail.com> wrote:

That's a great idea.
I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:



2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATE=
S AND
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.

And they still call it "World Championship"=2C WTF?


I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest then..=
.


Cheers=2C
Alexandre Klinke
(Brazilian=2C living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)







On Fri=2C Aug 13=2C 2010 at 4:43 PM=2C <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

I love this idea!!





On Aug 13=2C 2010=2C at 11:54 PM=2C Dustbunnies wrote:


At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10=2C Rick Walker wrote:

Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in my=
 estimation=2C successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the n=
umber of world class live looping artists who don't even use Boss gear=2C I=
 think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competition an=
 " international championship".

Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to hosting a=
 true and fair international competition for live looping that included loo=
pers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear=2C both ha=
rdware and software.

Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with anyone =
else here?

Well then=2C here's an idea...

               ~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~

It's a public contest.  All the videos are made available on YouTube. Also=
=2C somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen th=
ese entries.

Let's add some Art into their commerce.  Here's how:

Enter the contest=2C but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only=
 loopers.  Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative=2C =
your EDP=2C your JamMan=2C DL4=2C M9/M13=2C EHX SMM=2C 2880=2C DD-20=2C Loo=
p Junky=2C old tape delays=2C Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/=
Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.

This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: s=
imply copy your existing videos=2C re-label them according to guidelines so=
 they can be easily found by contest-seekers=2C and enter ALL of them into =
the contest.

Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss' ma=
rketing=2C and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more=
 about Looping.  Use this as a vehicle for positive education.  Use this to=
 promote Loopers-Delight!!!

Somebody *will* watch.  It may be a potential listener or fan.  It may be a=
nother musician scanning through the entries=2C in which case you can help =
open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally=2C the=
 Boss judges will have to screen the entries=2C and perhaps they'll finally=
 start to pay attention.

We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping=2C that=
 this contest is by no means an "international championship"=2C and that th=
ere are thousands of people out there making great Looping music.  Some of =
these people use Boss products.  Some use other products and tools in their=
 art.  But WE=2C THE ARTISTS=2C ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE =
THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing hacks=
 with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.

Send a message.  Tools don't make great music.  People do.

There's some incredible talent in this community=2C and lots of great peopl=
e.

Let's show them!

       --mech.
--=20
_____
"take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one st=
ep..."





--=20
Rafa's One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc
http://vimeo.com/11499020
http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband
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G<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Date: Tue=2C 17 Aug 2010 19:54:42 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: Boss "International=
 Championship" [SIC]....<BR>From: supersimples@gmail.com<BR>To: Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com<BR><BR>WOW!!! That is AMAZING!!! It's literally no=
t at all international!! Preposterous...
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3BI Too am Brazilian actually(Faaaaala=2C tranquilo?! :-) ) But =
live in the states. I don't however use any Boss equipment=2C unless an fs-=
5 footswitch counts hehehe. I am all about hijacking this thing! Seems to m=
e a worthy cause.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Tue=2C Aug 17=2C 2010 at 4:43 PM=2C Alexandr=
e Klinke <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:alexandre.klinke@gmail.com=
">alexandre.klinke@gmail.com</A>&gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=3B PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" clas=
s=3Decxgmail_quote>That's a great idea.
<DIV>I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contes=
t:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"FONT: 10px Arial"><B>2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL=
 RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATES AND</B></P>
<P style=3D"FONT: 10px Arial"><B>DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.</B></P>
<P style=3D"FONT: 10px Arial"><BR></P>And they still call it "World Champio=
nship"=2C WTF?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest t=
hen...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Cheers=2C</DIV>
<DIV>Alexandre Klinke</DIV><FONT color=3D#888888>
<DIV>(Brazilian=2C living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)</DIV></F=
ONT>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Fri=2C Aug 13=2C 2010 at 4:43 PM=2C <SPAN di=
r=3Dltr>&lt=3B<A href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</A>&=
gt=3B</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=3B PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" clas=
s=3Decxgmail_quote>I love this idea!!
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><BR>On Aug 13=2C 2010=2C at 11:54 PM=2C Dustbunnies wrote:<BR>=
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=3B PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" clas=
s=3Decxgmail_quote>At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10=2C Rick Walker wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid=3B PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" clas=
s=3Decxgmail_quote>Given that there are so many live looping solutions that=
 compete (and in my estimation=2C successfully) with the Boss line of produ=
cts and given the number of world class live looping artists who don't even=
 use Boss gear=2C I think it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of =
this competition an " international championship".<BR><BR>Something tells m=
e that Boss' marketing team would not be open to hosting a true and fair in=
ternational competition for live looping that included loopers (and judges)=
 using other manufacturers of live looping gear=2C both hardware and softwa=
re.<BR><BR>Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate w=
ith anyone else here?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well then=2C here's an idea...<BR=
><BR>&nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=
=3B~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~<BR><BR>It's a public contest. &nbsp=3BAll the=
 videos are made available on YouTube. Also=2C somebody on the judging comm=
ittee at Boss is going to have to screen these entries.<BR><BR>Let's add so=
me Art into their commerce. &nbsp=3BHere's how:<BR><BR>Enter the contest=2C=
 but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only loopers. &nbsp=3BPo=
st all the great music you've made using your Looperlative=2C your EDP=2C y=
our JamMan=2C DL4=2C M9/M13=2C EHX SMM=2C 2880=2C DD-20=2C Loop Junky=2C ol=
d tape delays=2C Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.=
... WHATEVER.<BR><BR>This is even easier for those of you that already have=
 videos on YouTube: simply copy your existing videos=2C re-label them accor=
ding to guidelines so they can be easily found by contest-seekers=2C and en=
ter ALL of them into the contest.<BR><BR>Put some notes on the video statin=
g that this is a protest against Boss' marketing=2C and point the viewers b=
ack here to LD if they want to learn more about Looping. &nbsp=3BUse this a=
s a vehicle for positive education. &nbsp=3BUse this to promote Loopers-Del=
ight!!!<BR><BR>Somebody *will* watch. &nbsp=3BIt may be a potential listene=
r or fan. &nbsp=3BIt may be another musician scanning through the entries=
=2C in which case you can help open them up to new possibilities for what c=
an be done. Additionally=2C the Boss judges will have to screen the entries=
=2C and perhaps they'll finally start to pay attention.<BR><BR>We can send =
a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping=2C that this contes=
t is by no means an "international championship"=2C and that there are thou=
sands of people out there making great Looping music. &nbsp=3BSome of these=
 people use Boss products. &nbsp=3BSome use other products and tools in the=
ir art. &nbsp=3BBut WE=2C THE ARTISTS=2C ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC an=
d WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless market=
ing hacks with an advertising budget trying to shill a product.<BR><BR>Send=
 a message. &nbsp=3BTools don't make great music. &nbsp=3BPeople do.<BR><BR=
>There's some incredible talent in this community=2C and lots of great peop=
le.<BR><BR>Let's show them!<BR><BR>&nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B--mec=
h.<BR>-- <BR>_____<BR>"take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts=
 no longer than one step..."<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUO=
TE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-=
- <BR>Rafa's One Man Band Online:<BR><A href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.band=
camp.com/" target=3D_blank>http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</A><BR><A h=
ref=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=
=3D_blank>http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</A>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=3D_bla=
nk>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</A><BR><A href=3D"http://vi=
meo.com/11499020" target=3D_blank>http://vimeo.com/11499020</A><BR><A href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D_blank>http://www.mysp=
ace.com/rafasonemanband</A></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV> 		 	   		  </body>
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I have an older Alesis Midiverb II that has been hanging around in  
the studio for a long time now and not being used. Plus, I have  
another one as well that I use
and I really do not need two of them, and I need to clear some more  
space, so I am gonna let it go for only $40, plus what(?)ever the  
shipping will be.

But, a caveat about it is that for some(?) reason, buttons #3 and #8  
do not seem to be working and I have no idea why? Possibly it is an  
easy fix? I have no idea.
The unit has always been housed in the studio and taken good care of.  
Also, the buyer would have to get their own power supply, but the  
AMVII requires just a
standard 9V AC wall wart, with female plug. I can also furnish either  
the original handy settings chart from Alesis (if I still have a 2nd  
one?) or at least make a
photocopy of it if needed. No prob. Same for the simple little manual  
if(?) I still have that laying around here somewhere.

For more info, and reviews, go to the Harmony Central link below.  
It'll give ya more info than I could with this message.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Alesis/ 
MidiVerb+II/50/1

If interested, PLEASE REPLY OFF-LIST, OK?  TIA!

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have an older Alesis Midiverb =
II that has been hanging around in the studio for a long time now and =
not being used. Plus, I have another one as well that I use<div>and I =
really do not need two of them, and&nbsp;I need to clear some more =
space, so I am gonna let it go for only $40,&nbsp;plus what(?)ever the =
shipping will be. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>But, a caveat about it is =
that for some(?) reason, buttons #3 and #8 do not seem to be working and =
I have no idea why? Possibly it is an easy fix? I have no =
idea.</div><div>The unit has always been&nbsp;housed in the&nbsp;studio =
and taken good care of. Also, the buyer would have to get their own =
power supply, but the AMVII requires just a&nbsp;</div><div>standard 9V =
AC wall wart, with female plug.&nbsp;I can also furnish either the =
original handy settings chart from Alesis (if I still have a 2nd one?) =
or at least make a&nbsp;</div><div>photocopy&nbsp;of it if needed. No =
prob. Same for the simple little manual if(?) I still have that laying =
around here somewhere.</div><div><br></div><div>For more info, and =
reviews, go to the Harmony Central link below. It'll give ya more info =
than I could with this message.</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Alesis/=
MidiVerb+II/50/1">http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/produ=
ct/Alesis/MidiVerb+II/50/1</a></div></div><div><br></div><div>If =
interested,<font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"5"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 17px;"> PLEASE REPLY =
OFF-LIST, OK?</span></font> =
&nbsp;TIA!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Rev. =
Fever</div><div>Portland, OR</div></body></html>=

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You guys sound like a bunch of anarchists! :)

--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Alexandre Klinke <alexandre.klinke@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Alexandre Klinke <alexandre.klinke@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Boss "International Championship" [SIC]....
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:43 PM


That's a great idea.
I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:



2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATE=
S AND
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.

And they still call it "World Championship", WTF?


I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest then..=
.


Cheers,
Alexandre Klinke
(Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)




On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

I love this idea!!





On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustbunnies wrote:


At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/10, Rick Walker wrote:

Given that there are so many live looping solutions that compete (and in my=
 estimation, successfully) with the Boss line of products and given the num=
ber of world class live looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, I thi=
nk it's a little presumptuous to call the finals of this competition an " i=
nternational championship".

Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open to hosting a=
 true and fair international competition for live looping that included loo=
pers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping gear, both hard=
ware and software.

Am I being over sensitive here or does this sentiment resonate with anyone =
else here?

Well then, here's an idea...

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~

It's a public contest. =A0All the videos are made available on YouTube. Als=
o, somebody on the judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen the=
se entries.

Let's add some Art into their commerce. =A0Here's how:

Enter the contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only l=
oopers. =A0Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, yo=
ur EDP, your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old tap=
e delays, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHA=
TEVER.

This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on YouTube: s=
imply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelines so t=
hey can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them into the =
contest.

Put some notes on the video stating that this is a protest against Boss' ma=
rketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if they want to learn more a=
bout Looping. =A0Use this as a vehicle for positive education. =A0Use this =
to promote Loopers-Delight!!!

Somebody *will* watch. =A0It may be a potential listener or fan. =A0It may =
be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can hel=
p open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally, the=
 Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll finally s=
tart to pay attention.

We can send a message to Boss Marketing that they don't own Looping, that t=
his contest is by no means an "international championship", and that there =
are thousands of people out there making great Looping music. =A0Some of th=
ese people use Boss products. =A0Some use other products and tools in their=
 art. =A0But WE, THE ARTISTS, ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE TH=
E ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- not some group of clueless marketing hacks w=
ith an advertising budget trying to shill a product.

Send a message. =A0Tools don't make great music. =A0People do.

There's some incredible talent in this community, and lots of great people.

Let's show them!

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--mech.
--=20
_____
"take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one st=
ep..."



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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">You guys sound like a bunch of anarchists! :)=
<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 8/17/10, Alexandre Klinke <I>&lt;alexandre.klinke@gm=
ail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Alexandre Klinke &lt;alexandre.klinke@gmail=
.com&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: Boss "International Championship" [SIC]....<BR>To:=
 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 7:4=
3 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv891772140>That's a great idea.
<DIV>I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contes=
t:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 10px Arial"><B>2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN =
ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED STATES AND</B></DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 10px Arial"><B>DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.</B></DI=
V>
<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 10px Arial"><BR></DIV>And they still call it=
 "World Championship", WTF?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I guess everyone who is not american will have to hijack the contest t=
hen...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Alexandre Klinke</DIV>
<DIV>(Brazilian, living in Canada and looping without Boss gear)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3Dyiv891772140gmail_quote>On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:43 PM, <SPAN=
 dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc367.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dto=
ejampc@gmail.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:toejampc=
@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv891772140gmail_quote>I love this idea!!
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv891772140h5><BR><BR><BR>On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Dustb=
unnies wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv891772140gmail_quote>At 1:29 AM -0700 8/13/=
10, Rick Walker wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv891772140gmail_quote>Given that there are s=
o many live looping solutions that compete (and in my estimation, successfu=
lly) with the Boss line of products and given the number of world class liv=
e looping artists who don't even use Boss gear, I think it's a little presu=
mptuous to call the finals of this competition an " international champions=
hip".<BR><BR>Something tells me that Boss' marketing team would not be open=
 to hosting a true and fair international competition for live looping that=
 included loopers (and judges) using other manufacturers of live looping ge=
ar, both hardware and software.<BR><BR>Am I being over sensitive here or do=
es this sentiment resonate with anyone else here?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well =
then, here's an idea...<BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;~LET"S HIJACK THE CONTEST~<BR><BR>It's a public contest.
 &nbsp;All the videos are made available on YouTube. Also, somebody on the =
judging committee at Boss is going to have to screen these entries.<BR><BR>=
Let's add some Art into their commerce. &nbsp;Here's how:<BR><BR>Enter the =
contest, but *PAY NO ATTENTION* to the restriction on Boss-only loopers. &n=
bsp;Post all the great music you've made using your Looperlative, your EDP,=
 your JamMan, DL4, M9/M13, EHX SMM, 2880, DD-20, Loop Junky, old tape delay=
s, Mobius/Sooperlooper/Live/Mainstage/Logelloop/Freewheeling.... WHATEVER.<=
BR><BR>This is even easier for those of you that already have videos on You=
Tube: simply copy your existing videos, re-label them according to guidelin=
es so they can be easily found by contest-seekers, and enter ALL of them in=
to the contest.<BR><BR>Put some notes on the video stating that this is a p=
rotest against Boss' marketing, and point the viewers back here to LD if th=
ey want to learn more about Looping. &nbsp;Use this as a vehicle for
 positive education. &nbsp;Use this to promote Loopers-Delight!!!<BR><BR>So=
mebody *will* watch. &nbsp;It may be a potential listener or fan. &nbsp;It =
may be another musician scanning through the entries, in which case you can=
 help open them up to new possibilities for what can be done. Additionally,=
 the Boss judges will have to screen the entries, and perhaps they'll final=
ly start to pay attention.<BR><BR>We can send a message to Boss Marketing t=
hat they don't own Looping, that this contest is by no means an "internatio=
nal championship", and that there are thousands of people out there making =
great Looping music. &nbsp;Some of these people use Boss products. &nbsp;So=
me use other products and tools in their art. &nbsp;But WE, THE ARTISTS, AR=
E THE ONES WHO MAKE THE MUSIC and WE ARE THE ONES WHO DEFINE THE FIELD -- n=
ot some group of clueless marketing hacks with an advertising budget trying=
 to shill a product.<BR><BR>Send a message. &nbsp;Tools don't make
 great music. &nbsp;People do.<BR><BR>There's some incredible talent in thi=
s community, and lots of great people.<BR><BR>Let's show them!<BR><BR>&nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;--mech.<BR>-- <BR>_____<BR>"take one step outside you=
rself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..."<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE=
><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr>=
</table><br>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A      
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Okay Gang!

I've been trading a couple of emails with Rick on this (who is 
sooper-dooper busy planning LY2kX, so he's asked me to help out) and 
it looks like there's quite enough anger here about the Boss 
International Looping Championship -- especially since it's likely 
neither "international" nor a fair "looping championship".

So let's do this thing!!!!  Let's hijack this contest!

Step-by-step, here's how...

1.) Get a Looping video posted on YouTube.  It doesn't matter if it's 
a new video or if it's one you've put up on YouTube in the past.

Also, it doesn't matter if you're using Boss equipment or not. 
Remember, that's all part of the protest.

2.) The title of every video must begin it's title with this phrase: 
"BOSS LOOP CONTEST 2010".  Use this exact wording and capitalization 
to make sure that people looking for contest participants can find 
you.

3.) Give the viewers some information about yourself and the gear 
you're actually using.  After all, one of the best things about this 
hijack is the opportunity to use Boss' insensitivity to generate 
interest for the legitimately talented musicians participating in 
this subversion.

Also, don't forget to include some language explaining that this is a 
legitimate protest, and point them back here to Loopers-Delight.

If you need help, here's some sample language.  Feel free to use any 
of it verbatim, or edit it as you wish:

>This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this contest.
>
>An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the 
>globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different 
>nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing 
>Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.
>
>Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of 
>people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is 
>presumptuous to call this an "International Looping Competition" 
>when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products.
>
>We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping 
>and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because 
>they want to sell you something.
>
>If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to 
>learn more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the 
>'Mecca' of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome 
>everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to 
>Boss RC-series Looping fans.


4.) Go to the contest submission form at 
http://www.BossUS.com/LoopStation  Enter in all the appropriate 
information and submit your video into the 'contest'.

That's it!

Pretty simple overall.  But be sure to let all of us know here at LD 
when you've posted something.  Not only will that make it easier to 
track our progress, but it'll also give pointers to some great new 
music or music we may have missed previously.  :)

Good luck, and ganbatte!!!

	-- mech.
-- 
_____
"even when he was awake, he would carry his dreams with him..."

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I like this idea--it could possibly even work in a marketing research way
*for* boss in that if Boss is paying attention, they will notice us using
functions that their loopers don't do--maybe they can add in the features
for future loopers.


Charlie

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Dustbunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

> Okay Gang!
>
> I've been trading a couple of emails with Rick on this (who is
> sooper-dooper busy planning LY2kX, so he's asked me to help out) and it
> looks like there's quite enough anger here about the Boss International
> Looping Championship -- especially since it's likely neither "international"
> nor a fair "looping championship".
>
> So let's do this thing!!!!  Let's hijack this contest!
>
> Step-by-step, here's how...
>
> 1.) Get a Looping video posted on YouTube.  It doesn't matter if it's a new
> video or if it's one you've put up on YouTube in the past.
>
> Also, it doesn't matter if you're using Boss equipment or not. Remember,
> that's all part of the protest.
>
> 2.) The title of every video must begin it's title with this phrase: "BOSS
> LOOP CONTEST 2010".  Use this exact wording and capitalization to make sure
> that people looking for contest participants can find you.
>
> 3.) Give the viewers some information about yourself and the gear you're
> actually using.  After all, one of the best things about this hijack is the
> opportunity to use Boss' insensitivity to generate interest for the
> legitimately talented musicians participating in this subversion.
>
> Also, don't forget to include some language explaining that this is a
> legitimate protest, and point them back here to Loopers-Delight.
>
> If you need help, here's some sample language.  Feel free to use any of it
> verbatim, or edit it as you wish:
>
>  This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this contest.
>>
>> An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the globe. In
>> fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different nations in the
>> last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing Department have so far shown no
>> support for any of these activities.
>>
>> Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of people
>> making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is presumptuous to
>> call this an "International Looping Competition" when it is obviously
>> oriented only to promote BOSS products.
>>
>> We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping and
>> Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because they want to
>> sell you something.
>>
>> If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to learn
>> more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the 'Mecca' of the
>> international Live Looping movement. We welcome everyone and would like to
>> roll out the red carpet, especially to Boss RC-series Looping fans.
>>
>
>
> 4.) Go to the contest submission form at http://www.BossUS.com/LoopStation Enter in all the appropriate information and submit your video into the
> 'contest'.
>
> That's it!
>
> Pretty simple overall.  But be sure to let all of us know here at LD when
> you've posted something.  Not only will that make it easier to track our
> progress, but it'll also give pointers to some great new music or music we
> may have missed previously.  :)
>
> Good luck, and ganbatte!!!
>
>        -- mech.
> --
> _____
> "even when he was awake, he would carry his dreams with him..."
>
>

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I like this idea--it could possibly even work in a marketing research way *=
for* boss in that if Boss is paying attention, they will notice us using fu=
nctions that their loopers don&#39;t do--maybe they can add in the features=
 for future loopers.<div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Charlie<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Dustbunnies <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:mech@m3ch.net">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">
Okay Gang!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve been trading a couple of emails with Rick on this (who is sooper-d=
ooper busy planning LY2kX, so he&#39;s asked me to help out) and it looks l=
ike there&#39;s quite enough anger here about the Boss International Loopin=
g Championship -- especially since it&#39;s likely neither &quot;internatio=
nal&quot; nor a fair &quot;looping championship&quot;.<br>

<br>
So let&#39;s do this thing!!!! =A0Let&#39;s hijack this contest!<br>
<br>
Step-by-step, here&#39;s how...<br>
<br>
1.) Get a Looping video posted on YouTube. =A0It doesn&#39;t matter if it&#=
39;s a new video or if it&#39;s one you&#39;ve put up on YouTube in the pas=
t.<br>
<br>
Also, it doesn&#39;t matter if you&#39;re using Boss equipment or not. Reme=
mber, that&#39;s all part of the protest.<br>
<br>
2.) The title of every video must begin it&#39;s title with this phrase: &q=
uot;BOSS LOOP CONTEST 2010&quot;. =A0Use this exact wording and capitalizat=
ion to make sure that people looking for contest participants can find you.=
<br>

<br>
3.) Give the viewers some information about yourself and the gear you&#39;r=
e actually using. =A0After all, one of the best things about this hijack is=
 the opportunity to use Boss&#39; insensitivity to generate interest for th=
e legitimately talented musicians participating in this subversion.<br>

<br>
Also, don&#39;t forget to include some language explaining that this is a l=
egitimate protest, and point them back here to Loopers-Delight.<br>
<br>
If you need help, here&#39;s some sample language. =A0Feel free to use any =
of it verbatim, or edit it as you wish:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This video is a protest against BOSS&#39; marketing and against this contes=
t.<br>
<br>
An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the globe. In =
fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different nations in the l=
ast 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing Department have so far shown no=
 support for any of these activities.<br>

<br>
Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of people ma=
king great looping music with other devices. We feel it is presumptuous to =
call this an &quot;International Looping Competition&quot; when it is obvio=
usly oriented only to promote BOSS products.<br>

<br>
We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping and Musi=
c. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because they want to se=
ll you something.<br>
<br>
If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to learn mor=
e, please come to <a href=3D"http://www.loopersdelight.com" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.loopersdelight.com</a> -- the &#39;Mecca&#39; of the internat=
ional Live Looping movement. We welcome everyone and would like to roll out=
 the red carpet, especially to Boss RC-series Looping fans.<br>

</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
4.) Go to the contest submission form at <a href=3D"http://www.BossUS.com/L=
oopStation" target=3D"_blank">http://www.BossUS.com/LoopStation</a> =A0Ente=
r in all the appropriate information and submit your video into the &#39;co=
ntest&#39;.<br>

<br>
That&#39;s it!<br>
<br>
Pretty simple overall. =A0But be sure to let all of us know here at LD when=
 you&#39;ve posted something. =A0Not only will that make it easier to track=
 our progress, but it&#39;ll also give pointers to some great new music or =
music we may have missed previously. =A0:)<br>

<br>
Good luck, and ganbatte!!!<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- mech.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
-- <br>
_____<br>
&quot;even when he was awake, he would carry his dreams with him...&quot;<b=
r>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Charlie Milkey wrote:

> if Boss is paying attention, they will notice us 
> using functions that their loopers don't do--maybe they can add in the 
> features for future loopers.
> 

The competition is run by Roland US (surely).
So Roland Japan would have to be listening to Roland US.

I'm not set up for making loop videos (because I'm just not that excited by them),
so I won't be participating..
...but good luck to *all* who are.

andy


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Alexandre Klinke schrieb:
> That's a great idea.
> I got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:
>
> *2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITED 
> STATES AND*
>
> *DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.*
>
>
> And they still call it "World Championship", WTF?
Well, the baseball competitions which span the entire US (and Canada, I 
think) are called "World Series", too. So that makes sense in context...

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It Ford not make sens=E9 it's a big american hang up. =0AAntony=0A=0ASent f=
rom my iPhone=0A=0AOn 2010-08-18, at 17:20, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@go=
oglemail.com> wrote:=0A=0AAlexandre Klinke schrieb:=0AThat's a great idea.=
=0AI got even more pissed off after reading the regulations of the contest:=
=0A=0A*2) ELIGIBILITY: CONTEST OPEN ONLY TO LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE 50 UNITE=
D STATES AND*=0A=0A*DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.*=0A=0A=0AAnd they still call it "=
World Championship", WTF?=0AWell, the baseball competitions which span the =
entire US (and Canada, I think) are called "World Series", too. So that mak=
es sense in context...=0A=0A-- =0Ahttp://moinlabs.de=0AFollow me on twitter=
: http://twitter.com/moinlabs=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A      

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Charlie Milkey wrote:
>
>  if Boss is paying attention, they will notice us using functions that
>> their loopers don't do--maybe they can add in the features for future
>> loopers.
>>
>>
> The competition is run by Roland US (surely).
> So Roland Japan would have to be listening to Roland US.
>
> I'm not set up for making loop videos (because I'm just not that excited by
> them),
> so I won't be participating..
> ...but good luck to *all* who are.
>
> andy
>
>
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, andy bu=
tler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutl=
er@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 2=
04); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Charlie Milkey wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
if Boss is paying attention, they will notice us using functions that their=
 loopers don&#39;t do--maybe they can add in the features for future looper=
s.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
The competition is run by Roland US (surely).<br>
So Roland Japan would have to be listening to Roland US.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not set up for making loop videos (because I&#39;m just not that ex=
cited by them),<br>
so I won&#39;t be participating..<br>
...but good luck to *all* who are.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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my entry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nUav3FOhDI
no Boss gear used, and musician is from Germany :-)
-Michael


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Rick,

Listen to the latest CD Baby DIY Podcast! You may pick up some good funding
advice.

#098: Brian Meece =E2=80=93 The Crowdfunding Manifesto

August 16th, 2010


> Brian Meece is one of the co-founders of the crowd funding (aka. fan
> funding) site called RocketHub.  RocketHub allows artists to promote
> projects and accept fan contributions to support and fund their efforts.
>  Fan funding has become a buzz term in the music industry over the past
> year, but it=E2=80=99s not something an artist should rush into without c=
areful
> planning and consideration.  In this episode Brian lays out his Crowdfund=
ing
> Manifesto. It=E2=80=99s full of advice and tips on how to create and exec=
ute a
> successful crowd funding campaign.


> http://cdbabypodcast.com/


Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Rick,<br><br>Listen to the latest CD Baby DIY Podcast! You may pick up some=
 good funding advice.=C2=A0<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.=
8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-=
left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
#098: Brian Meece =E2=80=93 The Crowdfunding Manifesto</blockquote><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-col=
or: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
August 16th, 2010</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; b=
order-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-s=
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<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px=
; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-wi=
dth: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex; ">
Brian Meece is one of the co-founders of the crowd funding (aka. fan fundin=
g) site called RocketHub. =C2=A0RocketHub allows artists to promote project=
s and accept fan contributions to support and fund their efforts. =C2=A0Fan=
 funding has become a buzz term in the music industry over the past year, b=
ut it=E2=80=99s not something an artist should rush into without careful pl=
anning and consideration. =C2=A0In this episode Brian lays out his Crowdfun=
ding Manifesto. It=E2=80=99s full of advice and tips on how to create and e=
xecute a successful crowd funding campaign. =C2=A0</blockquote>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0=
px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-=
left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex=
; ">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top: 0px=
; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-wi=
dth: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex; ">
<a href=3D"http://cdbabypodcast.com/">http://cdbabypodcast.com/</a></blockq=
uote><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen<br><a href=3D"http://www.b=
oysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.per=
boysen.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com">www.looproom.com</a> internet music hub=
<br><br><br>

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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Listen to the latest CD Baby DIY Podcast! You may pick up some good fundi=
ng
> advice.
>
> #098: Brian Meece =96 The Crowdfunding Manifesto
>
> August 16th, 2010
>
>
>> Brian Meece is one of the co-founders of the crowd funding (aka. fan
>> funding) site called RocketHub.  RocketHub allows artists to promote
>> projects and accept fan contributions to support and fund their efforts.
>>  Fan funding has become a buzz term in the music industry over the past
>> year, but it=92s not something an artist should rush into without carefu=
l
>> planning and consideration.  In this episode Brian lays out his Crowdfun=
ding
>> Manifesto. It=92s full of advice and tips on how to create and execute a
>> successful crowd funding campaign.
>
>
>> http://cdbabypodcast.com/
>
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Per Bo=
ysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Rick,<br><br>Listen to the latest CD Baby DIY Podcast! You may pick up some=
 good funding advice.=A0<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">

#098: Brian Meece =96 The Crowdfunding Manifesto</blockquote><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
August 16th, 2010</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding=
-left: 1ex;">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Brian Meece is one of the co-founders of the crowd funding (aka. fan fundin=
g) site called RocketHub. =A0RocketHub allows artists to promote projects a=
nd accept fan contributions to support and fund their efforts. =A0Fan fundi=
ng has become a buzz term in the music industry over the past year, but it=
=92s not something an artist should rush into without careful planning and =
consideration. =A0In this episode Brian lays out his Crowdfunding Manifesto=
. It=92s full of advice and tips on how to create and execute a successful =
crowd funding campaign. =A0</blockquote>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href=3D"http://cdbabypodcast.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://cdbabypodcas=
t.com/</a></blockquote><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#888888"=
><br>Per Boysen<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.b=
oysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br><br><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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Quoting Michael Billow <mbillow@gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Listen to the latest CD Baby DIY Podcast! You may pick up some good fundi=
ng
>> advice.
>>
>> #098: Brian Meece =E2=80=93 The Crowdfunding Manifesto
>>
>> August 16th, 2010
>>
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>>> Brian Meece is one of the co-founders of the crowd funding (aka. fan
>>> funding) site called RocketHub.  RocketHub allows artists to promote
>>> projects and accept fan contributions to support and fund their efforts.
>>>  Fan funding has become a buzz term in the music industry over the past
>>> year, but it=E2=80=99s not something an artist should rush into without =
careful
>>> planning and consideration.  In this episode Brian lays out his  =20
>>> Crowdfunding
>>> Manifesto. It=E2=80=99s full of advice and tips on how to create and exe=
cute a
>>> successful crowd funding campaign.
>>
>>
>>> http://cdbabypodcast.com/
>>
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
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>>
>>
>>
>



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Michael this is nice, love the feeling 'live' about it the event, the room,
the process.  Does this festival take place annually in Cologne now or was
it a one time?

Jim

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

> my entry:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5nUav3FOhDI
> no Boss gear used, and musician is from Germany :-)
> -Michael
>
>
>


--=20
>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.
jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com.

www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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Michael this is nice, love the feeling &#39;live&#39; about it the event, t=
he room, the process.=A0 Does this festival take place annually in Cologne =
now or was it a one time?<br><br>Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Michael Peters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">my entry:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5nUav3FOhDI" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5nUav3FOhDI</a><br>
no Boss gear used, and musician is from Germany :-)<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">-Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>From Brooklyn To=
 Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6r=
n.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=
=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</=
a><br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com">woodandwiremusic.wo=
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/4801bad4-1b42-4c9e-84b1-bf61067ab67c

I couldn't find any useful information about the extra headstock pickup Fred
Frith uses sometimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL perhaps? I wonder if
this is something that could be useful for me.

-Michael

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  I'd suggest this slight revision of this
cut and past paragraph to amend your letter of
protest for the LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST contest:

CUT and PAST:

"This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this contest.

An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the
globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different
nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing
Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.

Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of
people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is
presumptuous to call this an "International Looping Competition"
when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products. The fact
that the contest is only open to citizens of the United States further
removes it from 'International' status.

We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping
and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because
they want to sell you something.

If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to
learn more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the
'Mecca' of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome
everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to
Boss RC-series Looping fans."


and heck,   please come to the

Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival
                         October 13th - 18th

As of today,  88 artists from 14 countries will be descending on Santa Cruz,
California for 6 days of performances.

Rick Walker

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More Henry Kaiser Antarctic footage (and incidental music ) on his (kinda') youtube channel..
---- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: 
> I admire the bold randomness of the off-topic designation :-)
> 
> There's more Kaiser footage in "Wide Blue Yonder".
> (no loops on that one tho')
> 
> andy
> 
> fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> > great film...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
> >     (inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)
> > 
> 

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forgot the url..(heh) http://www.youtube.com/user/scini2009
---- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: 
> I admire the bold randomness of the off-topic designation :-)
> 
> There's more Kaiser footage in "Wide Blue Yonder".
> (no loops on that one tho')
> 
> andy
> 
> fh@flatheadband.com wrote:
> > great film...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     check out "Encounters at the End of the World" by Werner Herzog
> >     (inc the dvd extras for Kaiser looping over similar scenes)
> > 
> 

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I certainly understand the consternation about the "International" aspect 
(although some web sites point to what they call the "U.S. Division" of the 
contest.

But I'm not comfortable with the phrasing,

"We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping and 
Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because they want to 
sell you something."

The reason I can't cosign is that of course, any company that sponsors 
**anything** is doing it ultimately to make money. Their entire reason for 
existence is to generate profit.

Now when a company can sponsor an event (to increase their exposure and 
therefore their sales), and in the process promote a great event and 
individual artists, it's a win/win. I think that if they adhered to the the 
"international" moniker and weren't playing games with semantics, then it 
would be perfectly appropriate for their motivation to be to increase their 
own exposure.

I just think it's a little naive to expect Boss to sponsor something 
strictly to promote looping and music. When you see a corporation donating 
money to certain causes, they are not doing it because they're just a great 
bunch of humanitarians, believe me. They are doing it to create an image. 
They exist for profit, and for nothing else. It's a great way to do 
business, though, because everybody benefits.

Just some thoughts from a normally very quiet member of the list.

Brian (Donning his flame retardent suit) 

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I read or was told that it is a guitar pickup on a hinge (door?). No details 
but if you find out anything i am also very interested!

J
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/4801bad4-1b42-4c9e-84b1-bf61067ab67c
>
> I couldn't find any useful information about the extra headstock pickup 
> Fred
> Frith uses sometimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL perhaps? I wonder 
> if
> this is something that could be useful for me.
>
> -Michael
> 

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That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic nudge-protest.

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>
>  I'd suggest this slight revision of this
> cut and past paragraph to amend your letter of
> protest for the LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST contest:
>
> CUT and PAST:
>
> "This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this contest.
>
> An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the
> globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different
> nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing
> Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.
>
> Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of
> people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is
> presumptuous to call this an "International Looping Competition"
> when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products. The fact
> that the contest is only open to citizens of the United States further
> removes it from 'International' status.
>
> We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping
> and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because
> they want to sell you something.
>
> If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to
> learn more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the
> 'Mecca' of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome
> everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to
> Boss RC-series Looping fans."
>
>
> and heck,   please come to the
>
> Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival
>                         October 13th - 18th
>
> As of today,  88 artists from 14 countries will be descending on Santa 
> Cruz,
> California for 6 days of performances.
>
> Rick Walker 

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Just edited an old video for the contest rules:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc>

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:

> That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic nudge-protest.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: <looppool@cruzio.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:42 PM
> To: "Dustbunnies" <mech@m3ch.net>
> Cc: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST....
>
>
>
>>  I'd suggest this slight revision of this
>> cut and past paragraph to amend your letter of
>> protest for the LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST contest:
>>
>> CUT and PAST:
>>
>> "This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this contest.
>>
>> An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the
>> globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different
>> nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing
>> Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.
>>
>> Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of
>> people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is
>> presumptuous to call this an "International Looping Competition"
>> when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products. The fact
>> that the contest is only open to citizens of the United States further
>> removes it from 'International' status.
>>
>> We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping
>> and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because
>> they want to sell you something.
>>
>> If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to
>> learn more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the
>> 'Mecca' of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome
>> everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to
>> Boss RC-series Looping fans."
>>
>>
>> and heck,   please come to the
>>
>> Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival
>>                        October 13th - 18th
>>
>> As of today,  88 artists from 14 countries will be descending on Santa
>> Cruz,
>> California for 6 days of performances.
>>
>> Rick Walker
>>
>
>


-- 
Rafa's One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc
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Just edited an old video for the contest rules:<div><a href=3D"http://www.y=
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1Sc</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DZwwsee6K1Sc"></a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Goo=
dman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net">spgo=
odman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
;">
That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic nudge-protest.<b=
r>
<br>
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From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@cruzio.com" target=3D"_blank">looppool=
@cruzio.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:42 PM<br>
To: &quot;Dustbunnies&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mech@m3ch.net" target=3D"=
_blank">mech@m3ch.net</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: LET&#39;S HIJACK THIS CONTEST....<div><div></div><div class=3D=
"h5"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
=A0I&#39;d suggest this slight revision of this<br>
cut and past paragraph to amend your letter of<br>
protest for the LET&#39;S HIJACK THIS CONTEST contest:<br>
<br>
CUT and PAST:<br>
<br>
&quot;This video is a protest against BOSS&#39; marketing and against this =
contest.<br>
<br>
An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the<br>
globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different<br>
nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing<br>
Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.<br>
<br>
Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of<br>
people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is<br>
presumptuous to call this an &quot;International Looping Competition&quot;<=
br>
when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products. The fact<br>
that the contest is only open to citizens of the United States further<br>
removes it from &#39;International&#39; status.<br>
<br>
We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping<br>
and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because<br>
they want to sell you something.<br>
<br>
If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to<br>
learn more, please come to <a href=3D"http://www.loopersdelight.com" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.loopersdelight.com</a> -- the<br>
&#39;Mecca&#39; of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome<br>
everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to<br>
Boss RC-series Looping fans.&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
and heck, =A0 please come to the<br>
<br>
Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0October 13th - 18th<br>
<br>
As of today, =A088 artists from 14 countries will be descending on Santa Cr=
uz,<br>
California for 6 days of performances.<br>
<br>
Rick Walker <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s =
One Man Band Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http=
://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo=
.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11499020</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"_blank">http://www.my=
space.com/rafasonemanband</a></div>
<br>
</div>

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> Does this festival take place annually in Cologne now or was it a one
time? 
 
one time only. I might do another one but I don't feel up to doing it on a
regular basis right now :)
 
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Lovely music Michael=2C Is it available on CD or download?

What gear are you using?

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Peace

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> Date: Wed=2C 18 Aug 2010 19:37:46 +0200
>=20
> my entry:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5nUav3FOhDI
> no Boss gear used=2C and musician is from Germany :-)
> -Michael
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Lovely music Michael=2C Is it available on CD or download?<BR>
What gear are you using?<BR>
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Peace<BR>
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Here's some info on the headstock Michael:

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Frith played a modified 1936 Gibson K-11. He added an extra pickupover the =
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fretted note. He then split the fretboard in two with a capo=2C effectively=
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> Subject: Fred Frith headstock pickup
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fretted note. He then split the fretboard in two with a capo=2C effectively=
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r clip at various positions on the strings. The net result was a guitar wit=
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d across the stereo soundscape<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>&gt=3B From: mp@mpeters.de<BR=
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Jeff Duke wrote:
> I read or was told that it is a guitar pickup on a hinge (door?). No 
> details but if you find out anything i am also very interested!
> 

It's a regular guitar p/u attached near the nut of the guitar.
The hinge is needed for playing on the lowest frets, and just
lets the p/u be pushed out of the way when it would be a nuisance.

When operational, the p/u is like a "bridge p/u at the other end",
except that it's on top of the strings.

Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating 
between the nut and the fretting finger.
He uses it on his "Guitar Solos 1" album. 

On open strings, depending on the polarity of the wiring, 
it would emphasize either even or odd harmonics.

I think he has a patent for it.

There's very little info available, but the device 
is quite often clearly visible in photos of Frith.

andy butler
( he's a big musical influence on me, but not in terms
  of his looping)

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Brian Carabee wrote:

> 
> "We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping and 
> Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because they 
> want to sell you something."
> 
> The reason I can't cosign is that of course, any company that sponsors 
> **anything** is doing it ultimately to make money. Their entire reason 
> for existence is to generate profit.
> 

how about this then

"We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping and 
Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is doing this only because they 
want to spread misinformation about the availability and relative
merits of looping devices."


andy

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Regi Wooten, brother of Victor, has a piezo bridge pickup right next to the locking nut of his guitar.  Gets the same effect as Frith, much more elegant design. I guess he must have a conductor passing through the neck and back to the guitar.  I was gonna do that but I decided I didn't want to mess up a good neck.  Maybe a bad neck ;)

toby
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  Here's some info on the headstock Michael:
   
  Frith played a modified 1936 Gibson K-11. He added an extra pickupover the strings at the nut, enabling him to amplify sound from both sides of the fretted note. He then split the fretboard in two with a capo, effectively giving him two guitars, each amplified separately that he could play independently with each hand. To split the sounds further he attached alligator clip at various positions on the strings. The net result was a guitar with multiple sound sources that could be channelled to a mixer and distributed across the stereo soundscape
   
  > From: mp@mpeters.de
  > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
  > Subject: Fred Frith headstock pickup
  > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:42:09 +0200
  > 
  > http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/4801bad4-1b42-4c9e-84b1-bf61067ab67c
  > 
  > I couldn't find any useful information about the extra headstock pickup Fred
  > Frith uses sometimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL perhaps? I wonder if
  > this is something that could be useful for me.
  > 
  > -Michael
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Regi Wooten, brother of Victor, has a piezo bridge pickup 
right next to the locking nut of his guitar.&nbsp; Gets the same effect as 
Frith, much more elegant design. I guess he must have a conductor passing 
through the neck and back to the guitar.&nbsp; I was gonna do that but I decided 
I didn't want to mess up a good neck.&nbsp; Maybe a bad neck ;)</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=buddhamachine@live.co.uk 
  href="mailto:buddhamachine@live.co.uk">Gareth Whittock</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Fred Frith headstock 
  pickup</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Here's some info on the headstock Michael:<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Frith 
  played a modified 1936 Gibson K-11. He added an extra pickupover the strings 
  at the nut, enabling him to amplify sound from both sides of the fretted note. 
  He then split the fretboard in two with a capo, effectively giving him two 
  guitars, each amplified separately that he could play independently with each 
  hand. To split the sounds further he attached alligator clip at various 
  positions on the strings. The net result was a guitar with multiple sound 
  sources that could be channelled to a mixer and distributed across the stereo 
  soundscape<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&gt; From: mp@mpeters.de<BR>&gt; To: 
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  pickup<BR>&gt; Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:42:09 +0200<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
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  pickup Fred<BR>&gt; Frith uses sometimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL 
  perhaps? I wonder if<BR>&gt; this is something that could be useful for 
  me.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -Michael<BR>&gt; <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating between the nut and
> the fretting finger.


I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm some
hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two pickups
for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of the
string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the
finger/fret/slide it gets shorter on the other side. If you pluck on
one side the other side will as well sound by sympathetic vibrations.
He has built some kind of prototype instrument, looking like a rough
piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of
the total string length and you can play on both sides and of course
amplify both sides separately.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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I reckon you wouldn't have to spoil the neck to run a wire down it.
Maybe there's enough space around the truss rod to run some wires down.


Toby G wrote:
> Regi Wooten, brother of Victor, has a piezo bridge pickup right next to 
> the locking nut of his guitar.  Gets the same effect as Frith, much more 
> elegant design. I guess he must have a conductor passing through the 
> neck and back to the guitar.  I was gonna do that but I decided I didn't 
> want to mess up a good neck.  Maybe a bad neck ;)
>  
> toby
> 

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That's a possibility.  Anybody know?

toby
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>
>
> I reckon you wouldn't have to spoil the neck to run a wire down it.
> Maybe there's enough space around the truss rod to run some wires down.
>
>
> Toby G wrote:
>> Regi Wooten, brother of Victor, has a piezo bridge pickup right next to 
>> the locking nut of his guitar.  Gets the same effect as Frith, much more 
>> elegant design. I guess he must have a conductor passing through the neck 
>> and back to the guitar.  I was gonna do that but I decided I didn't want 
>> to mess up a good neck.  Maybe a bad neck ;)
>>  toby
>>
> 

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Hans Reichel, a German guitarist, improvising musician and typographer, has 
built a number of guitars like that. You can see some of them on his 
website http://www.daxo.de/Â (which is worth visiting in any case!).

All the best,
Johannes


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> Von: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: Fred Frith headstock pickup OT
> 
>         On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 AM, andy butler 
> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating between the nut 
> and
> > the fretting finger.
> 
> 
> I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm some
> hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two pickups
> for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of the
> string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the
> finger/fret/slide it gets shorter on the other side. If you pluck on
> one side the other side will as well sound by sympathetic vibrations.
> He has built some kind of prototype instrument, looking like a rough
> piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of
> the total string length and you can play on both sides and of course
> amplify both sides separately.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
> 
> 
    
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Better text too, much more useable.


From: Rafael Nunes=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:04 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST....


Just edited an old video for the contest rules:=20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc





On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Stephen Goodman =
<spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:

  That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic =
nudge-protest.

  --------------------------------------------------
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     I'd suggest this slight revision of this
    cut and past paragraph to amend your letter of
    protest for the LET'S HIJACK THIS CONTEST contest:

    CUT and PAST:

    "This video is a protest against BOSS' marketing and against this =
contest.

    An enormous Live Looping community already exists all across the
    globe. In fact, there have been 70 Looping Festivals in 20 different
    nations in the last 7 years alone. BOSS and their Marketing
    Department have so far shown no support for any of these activities.

    Many loopers do use BOSS loopers. But there are also thousands of
    people making great looping music with other devices. We feel it is
    presumptuous to call this an "International Looping Competition"
    when it is obviously oriented only to promote BOSS products. The =
fact
    that the contest is only open to citizens of the United States =
further
    removes it from 'International' status.

    We do not believe they are running this contest to promote Looping
    and Music. Instead, we believe BOSS is sponsoring this only because
    they want to sell you something.

    If you are truly interested in Live Looping and genuinely wish to
    learn more, please come to http://www.loopersdelight.com -- the
    'Mecca' of the international Live Looping movement. We welcome
    everyone and would like to roll out the red carpet, especially to
    Boss RC-series Looping fans."


    and heck,   please come to the

    Y2K-X 10th Anniversary International Live Looping Festival
                           October 13th - 18th

    As of today,  88 artists from 14 countries will be descending on =
Santa Cruz,
    California for 6 days of performances.

    Rick Walker=20






--=20
Rafa's One Man Band Online:
http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239=20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Just edited an old video for the contest rules:=20
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> Lovely music Michael, Is it available on CD or download?  What gear are
you using? 
 
thanks Gareth. Not available yet although I might add it to the forthcoming
Escape Veloopity II.  
I used 2 EDPs and a guitar-midi driven EMU Vintage Keys for the tron
strings. Plus a ton of other gear ... I'm glad I'm too old for that now -
have moved to software in the meantime :)
 
Here's my old gear like I used it on this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/veloopity/1918950159
 
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> I reckon you wouldn't have to spoil the neck to run a wire down it.
> Maybe there's enough space around the truss rod to run some 
> wires down.


I had no problems taping a cable to the neck when using a Sustainiac Model
C. Not elegant but I could still play.

-Michael

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Stephen Goodman wrote:
> That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic nudge-protest.
>

People seem so reticent to call a spade a spade these days.

It IS a fucking manifesto.......
..........because we've all worked so hard in the last 15 years to try 
and make this
creative community a possibility and because I believe that we've really 
created
some important innovation with all of our contributions to the live 
looping world
. 
When some company with a lot of money tries to hijack and take credit 
for that work
it makes me mad, personally.

So, I  personally, don't feel 'pranksterish' about this contest nor do I 
feel like 'nudging'  Roland.

I feel serious and I feel like kicking them in the ass.

When some company with a lot of money tries to hijack and take credit 
for that work
it makes me mad, personally.

I don't see anything wrong with that.    To sit here and debate the 
issue seems so
counter productive.

Hijack the contest or don't!.

Rick
(with perhaps too much piss and vinegar in his system about this issue 
but still smiling
and, hopefully,  not too horribly full of himself)

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I agree with you Rick but spare your liver:) and use the version that explains how they are misusing the word international.
Antony Hequet

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-19, at 13:34, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:



Stephen Goodman wrote:
That reads too much like a manifesto than a pranksteristic nudge-protest.


People seem so reticent to call a spade a spade these days.

It IS a fucking manifesto.......
..........because we've all worked so hard in the last 15 years to try and make this
creative community a possibility and because I believe that we've really created
some important innovation with all of our contributions to the live looping world
. When some company with a lot of money tries to hijack and take credit for that work
it makes me mad, personally.

So, I  personally, don't feel 'pranksterish' about this contest nor do I feel like 'nudging'  Roland.

I feel serious and I feel like kicking them in the ass.

When some company with a lot of money tries to hijack and take credit for that work
it makes me mad, personally.

I don't see anything wrong with that.    To sit here and debate the issue seems so
counter productive.

Hijack the contest or don't!.

Rick
(with perhaps too much piss and vinegar in his system about this issue but still smiling
and, hopefully,  not too horribly full of himself)




      

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Hans Reichel's website is awesome if you have small children who like weir=
d stuff. Definitely worth checking out.


=3D-) PJ





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Subject: Re: Fred Frith headstock pickup OT


                            Hans Reichel, a German guitarist, improvising=
 musician and typographer, has built a number of guitars like that. You ca=
n see some of them on his website http://www.daxo.de/ (which is worth visi=
ting in any case!).

All the best,
Johannes


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An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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        On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.=
uk> wrote:
> Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating between the nut=
 and
> the fretting finger.


I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm some
hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two pickups
for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of the
string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the
finger/fret/slide it gets shorter on the other side. If you pluck on
one side the other side will as well sound by sympathetic vibrations.
He has built some kind of prototype instrument, looking like a rough
piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of
the total string length and you can play on both sides and of course
amplify both sides separately.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub


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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>Hans Reichel's website is=
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 checking out.
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<div>=3D-) PJ<br>
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Johannes<br>
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:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating between the=
 nut and<br>
&gt; the fretting finger.<br>
<br>
<br>
I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm some<br>
hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two pickups<br>
for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of the<br>
string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the<br>
finger/fret/slide it gets shorter on the other side. If you pluck on<br>
one side the other side will as well sound by sympathetic vibrations.<br>
He has built some kind of prototype instrument, looking like a rough<br>
piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of<br>
the total string length and you can play on both sides and of course<br>
amplify both sides separately.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</=
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<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a>=
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> That's anÂ excellent idea! I will show it to my little son, he will love 
> it! :-)
> 
> ------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:03:35 -0400
> Von: Patrick Bishop <pjbmhb@aol.com>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: Fred Frith headstock pickup OT
> 
>         Hans Reichel's website is awesome if you have small children who 
> like weird stuff. Definitely worth checking out.        
>         =-) PJ
> 
>                 
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
> From: Johannes Korn <j.korn@gmx.de>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 5:20 am
> Subject: Re: Fred Frith headstock pickup OT
> 
>         Hans Reichel, a German guitarist, improvising musician and 
> typographer, has built a number of guitars like that. You can see some of 
> them on his website http://www.daxo.de/Â (which is worth visiting in any 
> case!).
> 
> All the best,
> Johannes
> 
> 
> >         -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:57:00 +0200
> > Von: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Betreff: Re: Fred Frith headstock pickup OT
> > 
> >         On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:40 AM, andy butler 
> > <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Frith uses it to capture the sound of strings vibrating between the 
> > nut and
> > > the fretting finger.
> > 
> > 
> > I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm some
> > hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two pickups
> > for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of the
> > string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the
> > finger/fret/slide it gets shorter on the other side. If you pluck on
> > one side the other side will as well sound by sympathetic vibrations.
> > He has built some kind of prototype instrument, looking like a rough
> > piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of
> > the total string length and you can play on both sides and of course
> > amplify both sides separately.
> > 
> > Greetings from Sweden
> > 
> > Per Boysen
> > www.boysen.se
> > www.perboysen.com
> > www.looproom.com internet music hub
> > 
> > 
>         
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.myspace.com/nashorn
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/><br />I had a chance to talk with him when he played here in Stockholm so=
me<br />hears ago. He told me that he is very fascinated by using two picku=
ps<br />for electric string instrument in order to amplify both sides of th=
e<br />string. When the vibrating string gets longer on one side of the<br =
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piece of wood with strings on, where the bridge is in the middle of<br />th=
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lify both sides separately.<br /><br />Greetings from Sweden<br /><br />Per=
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se</a><br /><a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perb=
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While I do think it's silly for them to call it a "World Championship"
(when only US residents can compete), but they do call it a "Loop
Station Contest" on their promo, rather than a "Loop Contest". The
"Boss Loop Contest" text is what they're having your post in your
videos, but that could be "(Boss Loop) Contest" as much as "Boss (Loop
Contest)".

I dunno - I see this thing as being more good than bad. At least it
shows that the manufacturer has an interest in its looping line of
products enough to promote them. I don't think it's in any company's
interest to promote a contest that allows a competitor's machines to
be used.

My local experimental music scene has a funny relationship with the
local newspapers. They complain that the local papers don't cover
experimental music enough. However, when one does write an article,
the boards light up with complaints of "you quoted me wrong", "you
didn't talk about this person/venue" or "you got the history all
wrong". If I was a writer, it would discourage me from writing about
experimental music scene.

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richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> was all:
> of interest???
> Boss Loop Station World Championship
> Now through Aug. 31, upload a video performance using any Boss RC-Series
> Looper to YouTube that is 5 minutes or less with a title that starts with
> "BOSS Loop Contest 2010" and fill out the entry form
> at=A0www.bossus.com/go/loop_station. The top six entries will advance to =
the
> finals, to be judged Oct. 23. First prize is $3,000 in Boss gear and a tr=
ip
> to the international championship at Winter NAMM 2011.
>
> richard sales
> www.glasswing.com
> www.richardsales.com
> www.hayleysales.com

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the
month-long Special Focus on computerchemist.  The Featured CD at
Midnight will be "landform" by computerchemist on terrainflight
Records.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug

You will also hear the new album from dreamSTATE and one of the latest
releases from Groove Unlimited.  You will also hear music by Modulator
ESP who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on Sunday,
September 5.  More details are below.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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=A0
Coming in late here, but Mark Dresser, double-bassist extraordinaire=A0and =
occasional partner of Mr. Frith, has a 2nd pick-up in his bass, underneath =
the nut.
=A0
That way when he plays behind the string he fingers (I know there's a class=
ical term for this technique), the sound will register.=A0 This can be hear=
d on his Clean Feed release, Unveil.
=A0
You can see an early version of this set-up here: http://www.mark-dresser.c=
om/disc.html, with the pick-up suspended over the strings.=A0 I know he's s=
ince used a system where the pick-up is under the nut and=A0I believe he ru=
ns it through=A0a volume pedal.
=A0
My bass pick-up can somewhat register that sound when I do that, too, but a=
 2nd p/u would ensure clarity.=A0=20

=A0
ted h.

Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

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From: Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
Subject: Fred Frith headstock pickup
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/4801bad4-1b42-4c9e-84b1-bf61067ab67c

I couldn't find any useful information about the extra headstock pickup Fre=
d
Frith uses sometimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL perhaps? I wonder if
this is something that could be useful for me.

-Michael

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<DIV>Coming in late here, but Mark Dresser, double-bassist extraordinaire&n=
bsp;and occasional partner of Mr. Frith, has a 2nd pick-up in his bass, und=
erneath the nut.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>That way when he plays behind the string he fingers (I know there's a =
classical term for this technique), the sound will register.&nbsp; This can=
 be heard on his Clean Feed release, Unveil.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You can see an early version of this set-up here: <A href=3D"http://ww=
w.mark-dresser.com/disc.html">http://www.mark-dresser.com/disc.html</A>, wi=
th the pick-up suspended over the strings.&nbsp; I know he's since used a s=
ystem where the pick-up is under the nut and&nbsp;I believe he runs it thro=
ugh&nbsp;a volume pedal.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>My bass pick-up can somewhat register that sound when I do that, too, =
but a 2nd p/u would ensure clarity.&nbsp; <BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>ted h.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog<BR><BR>--- On =
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m<BR>Received: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:42 PM<BR><BR>
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etimes. Does anyone know anything? a URL perhaps? I wonder if<BR>this is so=
mething that could be useful for me.<BR><BR>-Michael<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQU=
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back in the 80s i tried to put a pickup over the nut of my old teisco del
rey, it didn't work. and the running the wire down the neck taped didn't
feel so good either.

the one idea that has interested me is putting a piezo in the neck pocket of
the guitar. i had read that eivind aarset does that w/ his strat, and i
thought i had read long ago that frank zappa had a guitar equiped w/ that
setup (don't quote me on the FZ one, this is from memory). the idea of
picking up sound/vibrations from that crucial part in neck body joint sounds
interesting to me.
i will also put a plug in my newest guitar has a microphone (for feedback)
between the 2 double rail pus...(similar idea to the teuffel tesla and david
torn's koll tornado)...
and it works quite well. w/ different types of distortion it gets different
sounds (i've been bouncing between my boss ultra fuzz, my DAED disturbo ds-1
& my source audio multi-wave distortion--i can't make up my mind which i
like)...
& when i go direct, w/ the mic on, i can get quasi-acoustic sounds....

as for the Boss loop competition...i had thought about making some crappy
loop video, using my gear...but just putting a piece of tape over the pedal
names and label it "boss" real crappy, sort of an homage to the old batman
tv show in the 60s that had everything labeled in the batcave....my minor
funny haha....
oh well...
s----

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<div>back in the 80s i tried to put a pickup over the nut of my old teisco =
del rey, it didn&#39;t work. and the running the wire down the neck taped d=
idn&#39;t feel so good either.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>the one idea that has interested me is putting a piezo in the neck poc=
ket of the guitar. i had read that eivind aarset does that w/ his strat, an=
d i thought i had read long ago that frank zappa had a guitar equiped w/ th=
at setup (don&#39;t quote me on the FZ one, this is from memory). the idea =
of picking up sound/vibrations from that crucial part in neck body joint so=
unds interesting to me. </div>

<div>i will also put a plug in my newest guitar has a microphone (for feedb=
ack) between the 2 double rail pus...(similar idea to the teuffel tesla and=
 david torn&#39;s koll tornado)...</div>
<div>and it works quite well. w/ different types of distortion it gets diff=
erent sounds (i&#39;ve been bouncing between my boss ultra fuzz, my DAED di=
sturbo ds-1 &amp; my source audio multi-wave distortion--i can&#39;t make u=
p my mind which i like)...</div>

<div>&amp; when i go direct, w/ the mic on, i can get quasi-acoustic sounds=
....</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>as for the Boss loop competition...i had thought about making some cra=
ppy loop video, using my gear...but just putting a piece of tape over the p=
edal names and label it &quot;boss&quot; real crappy, sort of an homage to =
the old batman tv show in the 60s that had everything labeled in the batcav=
e....my minor funny haha....</div>

<div>oh well...</div>
<div>s----</div>
<div>=A0</div>
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=3Dview&amp;current=3Dgtrcloseup.jpg&amp;newest=3D1"></a>=A0</div>

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What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or 
more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do 
a splitter, but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.

thanks!


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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:19 AM, nick@12testing.net <nick@1957.me.uk> wrote:
> What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or
> more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do
> a splitter, but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.

Hi Nick,
Rane has a 2 in 6 out splitter in their cataloque.
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rane_sm26b_splittermixer.htm Top quality, but
therefore not cheap ;-)

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and i thought i had read long ago that frank zappa had a guitar  
equiped w/ that setup (don't quote me on the FZ one, this is from  
memory)


  As the late Ed McMahon would say.You are correct sir !  check out  
Zoot Allures to hear his beyond straty strat straterson tone. talk  
about extra presence. Zazing!!!  I believe he might have also been  
using a parametric equalizer as well at that point, like and onboard  
fixed wah sound.
Bill

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I use a xlr cable splitter... it splits the input of my voice on to the 
looper (mac) and then also on the pa-set. Sometimes I need that if I am 
doing more than looping the voice.  It works fine.

example: 
http://rackcrew.com/gear/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=204

> What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or
> more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do
> a splitter, but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
>    


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I use a xlr cable splitter... it splits the input of my voice on to the
looper (mac) and then also on the pa-set. Sometimes I need that if I am
doing more than looping the voice.&nbsp; It works fine. <br>
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example:
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<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:4C705EFC.60.1941E1@nick.1957.me.uk" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or 
more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do 
a splitter, but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.

thanks!



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I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this may
well apply to Windows too.

I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be
taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in
activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and
things are better.

Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!

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I&#39;m running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this=
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Warren, et alia,

It's usually a good idea to turn EVERYTHING that's not involved in the
signal generation or processing OFF on either WIndows or OS X when
you're using a computer for audio. I was shocked to see how much
difference some of the seemingly innocuous things we run for "general"
computing made when left running when trying to use the computer for
any audio-related activities. One of the big culprits is the graphics
card...Airport, FileSharing (there's constant "pinging" going on
there), the list goes on ...

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this may
> well apply to Windows too.
> I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be
> taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in
> activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and
> things are better.
> Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.warrensirota.com
> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>

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That's weird, Warren. I've got Firefox and Chrome running on my MBP, and =
Firefox is using about 15% of CUP; Chrome and several copies of "Chrome =
Renderer" are using about 8% all told.

I imagine it varies according to what the browsers are doing...

On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Warren Sirota wrote:

> I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although =
this may well apply to Windows too.
>=20
> I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to =
be taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in =
activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and =
things are better.
>=20
> Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!
>=20
>=20


David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
Blog:  http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com
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"><div><br></div>That's weird, Warren. I've got Firefox and Chrome =
running on my MBP, and Firefox is using about 15% of CUP; Chrome and =
several copies of "Chrome Renderer" are using about 8% all =
told.<div><br></div><div>I imagine it varies according to what the =
browsers are doing...</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 22, 2010, at 8:48 =
AM, Warren Sirota wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I'm =
running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this may =
well apply to Windows too.<div><br></div><div>I was wondering why my =
system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be taxing my new computer =
more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in activity monitor - Chrome =
helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and things are better.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut =
off Airport!<br clear=3D"all"><br><br>
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href=3D"mailto:david@gdhour.com">david@gdhour.com</a></div><div>Truth =
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</div><div>Web site: <a =
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<a =
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gans</a></div><div>Music: <a =
href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans">http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans</=
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Howdi,

How do you guys go about mono-izing a signal to send to a looper? I
basically have a stereo output from my effects, and they  are connected to
mains on the mixer... now.. if I wanted to join them together (make a mono
signal) to send into my EDP, how would you do it? Currently all my loopers
are on the one and only send of the mixer, and are monoized there, but I
want to use the send for somethng else, and connect the outs directly to the
ins of the loopers. I dont EVER adjust the levels on the sends, I do that on
the loopers themselves, so I want to make a "switch based BUSS" where my 2
stereo instruments can just be switched to loop or not, I need no individual
switch PER looper, cos its the loopers isteslf that decides if its gonna
loop something, I just need a switch that decides if the instrument goe to
ALL the loopers or not, but then.. I dot hung up on this.. mono-izing a
signal thang?? and suddenly lost it...

MArk

-- 
mark francombe
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Howdi,<br><br>How do you guys go about mono-izing a signal to send to a loo=
per? I basically have a stereo output from my effects, and they=A0 are conn=
ected to mains on the mixer... now.. if I wanted to join them together (mak=
e a mono signal) to send into my EDP, how would you do it? Currently all my=
 loopers are on the one and only send of the mixer, and are monoized there,=
 but I want to use the send for somethng else, and connect the outs directl=
y to the ins of the loopers. I dont EVER adjust the levels on the sends, I =
do that on the loopers themselves, so I want to make a &quot;switch based B=
USS&quot; where my 2 stereo instruments can just be switched to loop or not=
, I need no individual switch PER looper, cos its the loopers isteslf that =
decides if its gonna loop something, I just need a switch that decides if t=
he instrument goe to ALL the loopers or not, but then.. I dot hung up on th=
is.. mono-izing a signal thang?? and suddenly lost it...<br>

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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> mono-izing a signal thang??


If your stereo mixer output comes as two tele cables:
Solder a 2 to 1 cable adapter, also called "Y adapter".

If your stereo mixer output comes as one stereo tele cable:
Go buy a "monofication plug" (stereo to mono). Any music store should
have them. Even some radio stores might.

If your stereo mixer output comes as two XLR cables:
Buy a switcher box in a music store. They may be a bit pricey since
the usually double up as empowered direct in box that supports 48v as
well as line level and sometimes instrument level too. (I have owned
one by MXR since -74 that still works like a charm... but I don't need
it with the lappy).

Greetings from Sweden

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Just a question for better understanding (in general):
Hard-panning a stereo signal only gives me one channel (either L/R), right?
So, "monoizing" is about treating L+R as single channels and summing them, right?

Last time I did this, I got very funny results on panned effects (i.e. tremolo was gone, delay was weird)...

Not saying this is the case in your situation!

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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> Last time I did this, I got very funny results on panned effects (i.e. tremolo was gone, delay was weird)...
>


Good point, Buzrap! A *mono compatible* stereo signal sounds
significantly better if monofied by plain summing of the left and
right channel. Some effect devices create Extra Wide Stereo by simple
phasing technique and this is not very mono compatible. But it really
is possible to make wide stereo effects that still reflect the
original frequency distribution and levels when crushed into mono; if
you have that kind of signal it might sound ok as mono.

p ;-)

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Well, the "international" part is a joke of course.
However, I don't think anyone at this list should be offended by a Boss Looping contest.
Keeping our niche existing as loopers in mind, even if some parts are misleading/motivated by coporate interests etc., if more people are interested in live looping, this would be welcome development, I guess.
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After getting inspired by Kid Beyond's vids, I decided to get a copy  
of Ableton.

I'm curious about what Macs and configurations people are using with  
their computer looping software.

I've had Logic freeze up and crash on me when I was using it on a  
Macbook, so I wouldn't trust it for live stuff. I'm thinking of  
getting a one or two year old 15" or 17" MBP, maxing out the memory,  
and not putting any software on it except for Ableton.

Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail MSOffice/ 
Firefox on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does simply  
having them on the machine use memory?

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Hello All,

I use Cubase 4.0 on a Mac Mini it's been very reliable. Occasional problems=
 but otherwise just great. Having software usually doesn't cause problems &=
 since I'm not sure why you'd be running a browser or email prg while perfo=
rming so I doubt it will make any difference.

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i have a macbook, 2 Ghz, 2GB Ram, it works well with Ableton. No 
problems with the RAM and latency... unless i get very ambitious. so yes 
it is being a bit overly cautious not to install other programs. You can 
even have them running with the setup u r using. I'm no techy but simply 
having the programs installed on the harddrive does not use up 
memory...as far as I know.

> After getting inspired by Kid Beyond's vids, I decided to get a copy 
> of Ableton.
>
> I'm curious about what Macs and configurations people are using with 
> their computer looping software.
>
> I've had Logic freeze up and crash on me when I was using it on a 
> Macbook, so I wouldn't trust it for live stuff. I'm thinking of 
> getting a one or two year old 15" or 17" MBP, maxing out the memory, 
> and not putting any software on it except for Ableton.
>
> Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail 
> MSOffice/Firefox on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does 
> simply having them on the machine use memory?
>
>


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i have a macbook, 2 Ghz, 2GB Ram, it works well with Ableton. No
problems with the RAM and latency... unless i get very ambitious. so
yes it is being a bit overly cautious not to install other programs.
You can even have them running with the setup u r using. I'm no techy
but simply having the programs installed on the harddrive does not use
up memory...as far as I know.<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:3418FB18-72BB-4323-9E3F-B91AD79DC5D7@gmail.com"
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get a copy of Ableton.
  <br>
  <br>
I'm curious about what Macs and configurations people are using with
their computer looping software.
  <br>
  <br>
I've had Logic freeze up and crash on me when I was using it on a
Macbook, so I wouldn't trust it for live stuff. I'm thinking of getting
a one or two year old 15" or 17" MBP, maxing out the memory, and not
putting any software on it except for Ableton.
  <br>
  <br>
Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail
MSOffice/Firefox on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does
simply having them on the machine use memory?
  <br>
  <br>
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This kind of question always amuses me, like it's only in the last
year or two that computers have become useful for music.

I did many gigs running Ableton Live on a 667Mhz G4 Powerbook, which
had a ton of other software installed too, and wouldn't think twice
about running web browsers or email or whatever at the same time as
Live.

Any Mac that will run OS X is absolute fine for audio work, IMHO.


os.


On 23 August 2010 00:21, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> After getting inspired by Kid Beyond's vids, I decided to get a copy of
> Ableton.
>
> I'm curious about what Macs and configurations people are using with their
> computer looping software.
>
> I've had Logic freeze up and crash on me when I was using it on a Macbook,
> so I wouldn't trust it for live stuff. I'm thinking of getting a one or two
> year old 15" or 17" MBP, maxing out the memory, and not putting any software
> on it except for Ableton.
>
> Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail MSOffice/Firefox
> on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does simply having them on
> the machine use memory?
>
>



-- 
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Actually I've been using a PC quite well to record and edit my work since 
1996.  Have the Macs caught up then? :)

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From: "Os" <os@collective.co.uk>
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> This kind of question always amuses me, like it's only in the last
> year or two that computers have become useful for music.
>
> I did many gigs running Ableton Live on a 667Mhz G4 Powerbook, which
> had a ton of other software installed too, and wouldn't think twice
> about running web browsers or email or whatever at the same time as
> Live.
>
> Any Mac that will run OS X is absolute fine for audio work, IMHO.
>
>
> os.
>
>
> On 23 August 2010 00:21, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After getting inspired by Kid Beyond's vids, I decided to get a copy of
>> Ableton.
>>
>> I'm curious about what Macs and configurations people are using with 
>> their
>> computer looping software.
>>
>> I've had Logic freeze up and crash on me when I was using it on a 
>> Macbook,
>> so I wouldn't trust it for live stuff. I'm thinking of getting a one or 
>> two
>> year old 15" or 17" MBP, maxing out the memory, and not putting any 
>> software
>> on it except for Ableton.
>>
>> Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail 
>> MSOffice/Firefox
>> on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does simply having them 
>> on
>> the machine use memory?
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers
> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
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ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)
but there they are, live at the loop festivals in Cologne and Antwerp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=3Drelated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&feature=3Drelated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&feature=3Drelated

cheers
Luis

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> Well, the "international" part is a joke of course.
> However, I don't think anyone at this list should be offended by a Boss
> Looping contest.
> Keeping our niche existing as loopers in mind, even if some parts are
> misleading/motivated by coporate interests etc., if more people are
> interested in live looping, this would be welcome development, I guess.
> Buzap
>
>
>
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ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)<br>but there they=
 are, live at the loop festivals in Cologne and Antwerp:<br><br><a href=3D"=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Drelated">http://=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&amp;feature=3Drelat=
ed">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><=
br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Dre=
lated">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Drelated</=
a><br>
<br>cheers<br>Luis<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 a=
t 10:33 PM, Buzap Buzap <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.n=
et">buzap@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
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204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Well, the &quot;international&quot; part is a joke of course.<br>
However, I don&#39;t think anyone at this list should be offended by a Boss=
 Looping contest.<br>
Keeping our niche existing as loopers in mind, even if some parts are misle=
ading/motivated by coporate interests etc., if more people are interested i=
n live looping, this would be welcome development, I guess.<br>
Buzap<br>
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has this been mentioned here yet? a full page article about Krispen's Boise
Creative and Improvised Music Festival in the September issue of WIRE, in
the "global ear" department. Congrats Krispen !! 

-Michael

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interesting view of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q25-S7jzgs

cheers
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interesting view of it:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q25-S7jzgs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q25-S7jzgs</a><br><br>cheers<br>Luis<br>

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Thanks Louie.  Another issue that's not been discussed here affects us =
even more: the covert elimination of "Stereo Mix" from sound card =
drivers, thanks to our old pals at the RIAA.  Once again, the RIAA and =
its cronies are attempting to eliminate our ability to record our own =
work, while preparing to whine about how the presence of a "Stereo Mix" =
option on Recording Devices constitutes an invitation to steal (aka =
"piracy", which the RIAA and IFPI continue to manically claim is the =
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Hi

Do a google or eBay search on Art Splitmix4. It's a passive stereo mixer/sol=
itude that can be used in a number of different ways. I got mine to split a s=
ingle fx send into 4 and it's brilliant.

Simon

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> What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or=20
> more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do=20
> a splitter, but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.
>=20
> thanks!
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Ok guys and
girls.

=20

Sorry its
been a while with my first post being a request rather for help then someth=
ing
more communicative=2C but I am in a real bind.

=20

I have just
built a second board of fun gadgets (microkorg=2C proteus=2C electribe =2C
kaossilator pro etc) to use synced TO my echoplex.

=20

After numerous
plans and work arounds I have got  everything talking pretty nicely.

=20

However I noticed
that sometimes my drum machine now seems to start and stop of its own accor=
d.

=20

I have read
up on this and can see from the manual there are certain contolers that can
send start and stop messages etc=85. now ot be honest I don=92t want these=
=2C if I want
to start the drum I am happy to tap play when I am ready and stop when I ha=
ve
moved the audio of the drum loop over to the edp=85=20

=20

So finally
my question is=85 What  are these song
position values sent as =2C are they notes=2C are the just on the channel t=
he edp
is set to send / receive on ? can I suppress them ?

=20

thanks
Phill MyOneManBand


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Hey guys,
I=B4d like to forward this mail from a friend of mine who=B4s organised =
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on upcoming Saturday, August 28th 2010 at Cafe Vorstadtprinzessin, =
Trimbornstr.27 in K=F6ln/Kalk, doors at 7 pm.
It=B4s a free concert. Just Donation appreciated.
Maybe some of you want to watch it.

www.christojota.de



From: Alexander Meyen=20
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Subject: Loopfestival kommenden Samstag, 28. August K=F6ln Kalk


Liebe  Freunde  der guten Musik,
am kommenden Samstag den 28. August 2010 startet in dem Kalker Cafe =
"Vorstadtprinzessin", Trimbornstra=DFe 27  (direkt an der S- Bahn  =
Haltestelle) das 1. Kalker Loopfestival.=20
5 Musiker / innen  mit 5  verschiedenen Instrumenten werden alleine mit =
sich und  ihren Loopger=E4ten / Effekten ihre eigene Musik  =
improvisierend  komponieren. Die Reihenfolge steht  wie folgt  fest:

  1.. Harfe -  Raphael Melik=20
  2.. Violine / Viola -  Alexander Meyen=20
  3.. Gitarre - Thomas Elbern=20
  4.. Saxophon / Vocals -  Patty Stucky=20
  5.. Elektronik -  Mik Schuppin
Moderation: Thomas Pfeffer

Der Eintritt  ist frei,  Einla=DF  ist ab 19.00  Uhr, um Spende  wird  =
gebeten
Herzliche Gr=FC=DFe

Alexander Meyen
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Hey guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>I=B4d like to&nbsp;forward this mail from a =
friend of mine=20
who=B4s organised a little looping-festival in =
Cologne/Germany</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>on upcoming Saturday,&nbsp;August 28th 2010 at =
Cafe=20
Vorstadtprinzessin, Trimbornstr.27 in&nbsp;K=F6ln/Kalk, doors at 7=20
pm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>It=B4s a free concert. Just Donation=20
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Maybe some of you want to watch =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri><A=20
title=3D"http://www.christojota.de&#10;STRG + Klicken, um Verkn=FCpfung =
zu folgen"=20
href=3D"http://www.christojota.de">www.christojota.de</A></FONT><FONT=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:alexandermeyen@yahoo.de&#10;STRG + Klicken, um =
Verkn=FCpfung zu folgen"=20
href=3D"mailto:alexandermeyen@yahoo.de">Alexander Meyen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:h-gx@googlegroups.com&#10;STRG + Klicken, um =
Verkn=FCpfung zu folgen"=20
href=3D"mailto:h-gx@googlegroups.com">BI Humboldt Gremberg</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
title=3D"mailto:Alexandermeyen@yahoo.de&#10;STRG + Klicken, um =
Verkn=FCpfung zu folgen"=20
href=3D"mailto:Alexandermeyen@yahoo.de">Alexander Meyen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Loopfestival kommenden Samstag, 28. August K=F6ln=20
Kalk</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Liebe&nbsp; Freunde&nbsp; der guten Musik,<BR>am kommenden Samstag =
den 28.=20
August 2010 startet in dem Kalker Cafe "Vorstadtprinzessin", =
Trimbornstra=DFe=20
27&nbsp; (direkt an der S- Bahn&nbsp; Haltestelle) das <SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">1. Kalker Loopfestival</SPAN>. <BR>5 Musiker =
/=20
innen&nbsp; mit 5&nbsp; verschiedenen Instrumenten werden alleine mit =
sich=20
und&nbsp; ihren Loopger=E4ten / Effekten ihre eigene Musik&nbsp;=20
improvisierend&nbsp; komponieren. Die Reihenfolge steht&nbsp; wie =
folgt&nbsp;=20
fest:<BR>
<OL>
  <LI>Harfe -&nbsp; Raphael Melik=20
  <LI>Violine / Viola -&nbsp; Alexander Meyen=20
  <LI>Gitarre - Thomas Elbern=20
  <LI>Saxophon / Vocals -&nbsp; Patty Stucky=20
  <LI>Elektronik -&nbsp; Mik Schuppin</LI></OL>Moderation: Thomas=20
Pfeffer<BR><BR>Der Eintritt&nbsp; ist frei,&nbsp; Einla=DF&nbsp; ist ab=20
19.00&nbsp; Uhr, um Spende&nbsp; wird&nbsp; gebeten<BR>Herzliche=20
Gr=FC=DFe<BR><BR>Alexander Meyen<BR><SPAN><A =
href=3D"http://www.violalex.de"=20
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hi there=2C do you mean stereoor do you mean two copyies of one mono audio =
path (ie a guitar) if the latter you can buy a mono  jack input to two mono=
 laft and right outputs as a  convertor type thing.

the real trick is that you will need to re balance the levels...the signal =
will be weaker that is recieved at the input of each echoplex so you may ne=
ed ton increase input gain stage and watch out for the noise floor.... but =
then the second step is to be aware how this effects output level perceptio=
n=2C=20

you are hearing the throughput of both copies of the guitar signal through =
your speakers  =2C but what ever you record=2C if you are recording it only=
 on one edp=2C will only berecording half of this  ie..one copy of the two =
throughputs.

therefore you will need to balance out your outputs so there is a quart MOR=
E volume blended towars the looped output of each echoplex then there is to=
 the direct signal this should more or less balance you out...tweak to suit=
.

i can send diagrams if non of that makes sense.

> CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: simonbirds@iinet.net.au
> Subject: Re: splitting audio?
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Aug 2010 20:08:13 +1000
> To: nick@12testing.net
>=20
> Hi
>=20
> Do a google or eBay search on Art Splitmix4. It's a passive stereo mixer/=
solitude that can be used in a number of different ways. I got mine to spli=
t a single fx send into 4 and it's brilliant.
>=20
> Simon
>=20
> Sent from my iPod
>=20
> On 22/08/2010=2C at 8:19 AM=2C "nick@12testing.net" <nick@1957.me.uk> wro=
te:
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> > What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal two (or=20
> > more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loopers. Behringer do=20
> > a splitter=2C but it's mostly XLR - I need jack sockets.
> >=20
> > thanks!
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hi there=2C do you mean stereoor do you mean two copyies of one mono audio =
path (ie a guitar) if the latter you can buy a mono&nbsp=3B jack input to t=
wo mono laft and right outputs as a&nbsp=3B convertor type thing.<br><br>th=
e real trick is that you will need to re balance the levels...the signal wi=
ll be weaker that is recieved at the input of each echoplex so you may need=
 ton increase input gain stage and watch out for the noise floor.... but th=
en the second step is to be aware how this effects output level perception=
=2C <br><br>you are hearing the throughput of both copies of the guitar sig=
nal through your speakers&nbsp=3B =2C but what ever you record=2C if you ar=
e recording it only on one edp=2C will only berecording half of this&nbsp=
=3B ie..one copy of the two throughputs.<br><br>therefore you will need to =
balance out your outputs so there is a quart MORE volume blended towars the=
 looped output of each echoplex then there is to the direct signal this sho=
uld more or less balance you out...tweak to suit.<br><br>i can send diagram=
s if non of that makes sense.<br><br>&gt=3B CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com<br>&gt=3B From: simonbirds@iinet.net.au<br>&gt=3B Subject: Re: spl=
itting audio?<br>&gt=3B Date: Mon=2C 23 Aug 2010 20:08:13 +1000<br>&gt=3B T=
o: nick@12testing.net<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Hi<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Do a goo=
gle or eBay search on Art Splitmix4. It's a passive stereo mixer/solitude t=
hat can be used in a number of different ways. I got mine to split a single=
 fx send into 4 and it's brilliant.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Simon<br>&gt=3B <b=
r>&gt=3B Sent from my iPod<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B On 22/08/2010=2C at 8:19 AM=
=2C "nick@12testing.net" &lt=3Bnick@1957.me.uk&gt=3B wrote:<br>&gt=3B <br>&=
gt=3B &gt=3B What devices do you recommend for splitting a stereo signal tw=
o (or <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B more) ways? I need to feed my guitar to several loo=
pers. Behringer do <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B a splitter=2C but it's mostly XLR - I =
need jack sockets.<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B thanks!<br>&gt=3B &gt=
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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> w=
rote:
> So finally my question is=E2=80=A6 What =C2=A0are these song position val=
ues sent as ,
> are they notes, are the just on the channel the edp is set to send / rece=
ive
> on ? can I suppress them ?


The "Song Start/Stop" command is part of the MIDI Clock protocol. To
"surpress" this you may either look for turning that option off in the
EDP (not sure that's possible, but check with manual if interested) or
turn off the drum machine's setting to listen for that particular sync
aspect!

Greetings from Sweden

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> has this been mentioned here yet? a full page article about Krispen's Boise
> Creative and Improvised Music Festival in the September issue of WIRE, in
> the "global ear" department. Congrats Krispen !!
>
> -Michael
>


I think you broke this news on the looper's list, Michael! Respect to
Krispen! :-)

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
> Actually I've been using a PC quite well to record and edit my work since
> 1996. =C2=A0Have the Macs caught up then? :)


Funnily -96 was about the time when Windows dependent machines caught
up,  and transcended, Apple pc's (after Atari died Mac was the only
solution for music). - 98 I personally switched my macs for win boxes
in order to take advantage of the new processor technology by Intel.
With the G5 processor Apple actually caught up (was that 2002?) and I
picked up a mac because the available Mac music software was a tool
better suited for my work. Today though, I would say that the hardware
doesn't count much at all since both systems use the Intel stuff that
is so good for music applications. Choice of system is today more than
ever simply a question of what tools you think you need in your work.
I use to recommend Apple though, since they can today be used for both
Windows and Mac - why not keep all creative options handy! You never
know when you may need a particular application and it sucks to find
out that it can't run on the hardware you have access to.

To answer the subject line question: My main Mac is 324 mm.

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EDP has a variety of SYNC settings

OUS is the default, and sends those stops and starts along with midi clock.
OUt is the same, except it doesn't send the stops and starts.

andy

Per Boysen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> So finally my question isâ€¦ What  are these song position values sent as ,
>> are they notes, are the just on the channel the edp is set to send / receive
>> on ? can I suppress them ?
> 
> 
> The "Song Start/Stop" command is part of the MIDI Clock protocol. To
> "surpress" this you may either look for turning that option off in the
> EDP (not sure that's possible, but check with manual if interested) or
> turn off the drum machine's setting to listen for that particular sync
> aspect!
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
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Nice! I heard about that, but I have not seen it.   Does anyone have a copy 
of the page they can scan and send to me?  I would appreciate it.

Kris


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> has this been mentioned here yet? a full page article about Krispen's 
> Boise
> Creative and Improvised Music Festival in the September issue of WIRE, in
> the "global ear" department. Congrats Krispen !!
>
> -Michael
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Per Boysen schrieb:
> To answer the subject line question: My main Mac is 324 mm.
>   
Cool - my music-making non-Mac is 45nm, while my main computer is 65nm ;)

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Louie Angulo schrieb:
> ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)
> but there they are, live at the loop festivals in Cologne and Antwerp:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=related>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFeyIzAW_I&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFeyIzAW_I&feature=related>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1DM71uA3Y&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1DM71uA3Y&feature=related>
Great stuff, Louis!

On an unrelated note, I just googled the contest today, and it seems 
that it is in fact an international contest - see here: 
http://www.bossloop.com/

Seems we need to modify our manifesto once again...

             Rainer

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Philip schrieb:
> Is that being overly cautious? Will it matter if I put Mail 
> MSOffice/Firefox on it provided I turn them off when looping, or does 
> simply having them on the machine use memory?
Generally, and as a rough rule of thumb (and although terminology here 
is Windows-oriented, this also applies to other OSes):
1. Applications (like Firefox) take up space on your harddisk. They only 
take up memory and runtime when they are run. Caution has to be applied, 
though:
    a) some applications only go to "sleep" mode when you quit them with 
the usual "upper left corner" click - you need to specifically shut them 
down. This is true, among other things, for some email programs. In that 
state, they will still use memory and may use runtime.
    b) some applications do install additional programs which get 
started at system startup (MSOffice was famous for this, at least 
earlier). Same effects as for a) apply.
    c) Some applications run all the time - like virus scanners. Often, 
you can't completely shut them down.

2. Then there's services, which sometimes get installed by applications. 
They will take up memory and runtime when they are active (which may be 
only if the application using them is active, or after you've run the 
application in question until the next reboot, or always).

3. Drivers. They take up memory and possibly runtime all the time, or 
only when the device they're driving is connected to the system.

So to be on the safe side, have as few of 1-3 on your system as 
possible. This may require that you dive through your system 
configuration by hand. Best thing is always to use a harcore Linux and 
compile everything yourself ;).

For my two music computers, I used two different approaches:
On one computer, I have to independent OS installations (which share 
program files). One is for music only and is minimized otherwise. The 
other one is for all the fancy stuff.
On the other computer, the main OS installation is minimized in every 
respect (doesn't even have layer3 network drivers), but there's a 
virtual machine with all the fancy stuff running on it.

          Rainer

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Is it though, or is it that people compete within their regions against each
other? Is there actually going to be a point in which someone from Brazil
goes against someone from Japan for example I wonder...

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> Louie Angulo schrieb:
>
>> ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)
>> but there they are, live at the loop festivals in Cologne and Antwerp:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=related <
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=related>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFeyIzAW_I&feature=related <
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFeyIzAW_I&feature=related>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1DM71uA3Y&feature=related <
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1DM71uA3Y&feature=related>
>>
> Great stuff, Louis!
>
> On an unrelated note, I just googled the contest today, and it seems that
> it is in fact an international contest - see here:
> http://www.bossloop.com/
>
> Seems we need to modify our manifesto once again...
>
>            Rainer
>
> --
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>
>


-- 
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc
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Is it though, or is it that people compete within their regions against eac=
h other? Is there actually going to be a point in which someone from Brazil=
 goes against someone from Japan for example I wonder...<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Rainer Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Louie Angulo schrieb:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)<br>
but there they are, live at the loop festivals in Cologne and Antwerp:<br>
<br>
</div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=
=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&=
amp;feature=3Drelated</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dj=
FrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/=
watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Drelated</a>&gt;<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&amp;feature=3Drelat=
ed" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&amp;feat=
ure=3Drelated</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpLFeyIzAW=
_I&amp;feature=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DpLFeyIzAW_I&amp;feature=3Drelated</a>&gt;<br>

<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Drelat=
ed" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feat=
ure=3Drelated</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA=
3Y&amp;feature=3Drelated" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Drelated</a>&gt;<br>

</blockquote>
Great stuff, Louis!<br>
<br>
On an unrelated note, I just googled the contest today, and it seems that i=
t is in fact an international contest - see here: <a href=3D"http://www.bos=
sloop.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bossloop.com/</a><br>
<br>
Seems we need to modify our manifesto once again...<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
-- <br>
<a href=3D"http://moinlabs.de" target=3D"_blank">http://moinlabs.de</a><br>
Follow me on twitter: <a href=3D"http://twitter.com/moinlabs" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://twitter.com/moinlabs</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s One M=
an Band Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://w=
ww.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo=
.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11499020</a><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"_blank">http://www.my=
space.com/rafasonemanband</a></div>
<br>

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I watch this pretty closely and I see Firefox as the worse offender, followed by 
Chrome and then Safari.  (Mac OSX obviously).

The CPU usage will vary with what you have down with the browser. If you view 
videos or have Java applets running and lots of open sites it get's comic. I 
have seen Firefox use 80% on a fast machine.

Turn everything off - it is unfortunate - but it is the only way to get your 
machine back.

Keith
 Keith McMillen 
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www.beamfoundation.org 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 9:09:09 AM
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Warren, et alia,

It's usually a good idea to turn EVERYTHING that's not involved in the
signal generation or processing OFF on either WIndows or OS X when
you're using a computer for audio. I was shocked to see how much
difference some of the seemingly innocuous things we run for "general"
computing made when left running when trying to use the computer for
any audio-related activities. One of the big culprits is the graphics
card...Airport, FileSharing (there's constant "pinging" going on
there), the list goes on ...

http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/



On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this may
> well apply to Windows too.
> I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be
> taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in
> activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and
> things are better.
> Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.warrensirota.com
> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>

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Come on, guys - who cares what cycles a web browser eats in 2010!!!
You aren't checking email on stage are you? ;-))

I prefere Chrome for the only reason that it gives me a fast and
convenient edit window in Gmail and in the Wordpress admin system.
Plus that it remembers a set-up of default tabs (if Safari did that I
would rathe use that one, but efficiency is what counts for me)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I watch this pretty closely and I see Firefox as the worse offender, foll=
owed by
> Chrome and then Safari. =C2=A0(Mac OSX obviously).
>
> The CPU usage will vary with what you have down with the browser. If you =
view
> videos or have Java applets running and lots of open sites it get's comic=
. I
> have seen Firefox use 80% on a fast machine.
>
> Turn everything off - it is unfortunate - but it is the only way to get y=
our
> machine back.
>
> Keith
> =C2=A0Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 9:09:09 AM
> Subject: Re: wow, that chrome helper sure eats up the cycles
>
> Warren, et alia,
>
> It's usually a good idea to turn EVERYTHING that's not involved in the
> signal generation or processing OFF on either WIndows or OS X when
> you're using a computer for audio. I was shocked to see how much
> difference some of the seemingly innocuous things we run for "general"
> computing made when left running when trying to use the computer for
> any audio-related activities. One of the big culprits is the graphics
> card...Airport, FileSharing (there's constant "pinging" going on
> there), the list goes on ...
>
> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
> http://audiozoloft.com
> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wr=
ote:
>> I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this =
may
>> well apply to Windows too.
>> I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be
>> taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in
>> activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and
>> things are better.
>> Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!
>>
>> --
>> Warren
>> http://www.warrensirota.com
>> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
>> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
>>
>
>

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yeah! you might just win the contest Rainer:-)


>
> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8922832
>
> Later on I discovered that I was actually using Boss gear - my socks were
> (Hugo) Boss ones ;)
>
>            Rainer
>
>
>

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yeah! you might just win the contest Rainer:-)<br><br>
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<br>Later on I discovered that I was actually using Boss gear - my socks we=
re (Hugo) Boss ones ;)<br><br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer<br><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br></font><br></blockquote></div>

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Well, I tried to click on Louie Angulo's vids and it listed them as
unavailable.  Which kinda made me think that Youtube is already aware
of the redundant titles.  Come to think of it, I've accidently
uploaded two of the same titles before and I got all kinds of answers.
 Makes me wonder if the folks at Boss thought this through all the way
or if they have some handshake deal going on....either way, it's to
late in the night to start doing any research..  But, this whole
thread at least got me motivated!

Last month I finally got around to some Final Cut Express and thanks
to the LD discussion, I got off my butt and came up w/ a mash up of a
great jam I had w/ a drummer friend of mine and some video from a
couple of trips, mainly Burning Man 2006 but, w/ a little water thrown
in from the Appalachian mountains.  So, it's kinda West Coast w/ a
dash of East.  Hope you dig it:

 Andy G.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvUkK34wGI0

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Good stuff Andy.

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Good stuff Andy.<br>

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I think the upshot is that before you play, it's always a good idea to check
Activity Monitor (OSX) or Task Manager (Win) to see if there are more
processes eating up cpu. You can easily sort these lists on cpu %. That
chrome process isn't there for me all the time, but i had in fact quit
chrome an hour earlier when i discovered it (so I wasn't trying to check
email while playing).

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Come on, guys - who cares what cycles a web browser eats in 2010!!!
> You aren't checking email on stage are you? ;-))
>
> I prefere Chrome for the only reason that it gives me a fast and
> convenient edit window in Gmail and in the Wordpress admin system.
> Plus that it remembers a set-up of default tabs (if Safari did that I
> would rathe use that one, but efficiency is what counts for me)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > I watch this pretty closely and I see Firefox as the worse offender,
> followed by
> > Chrome and then Safari.  (Mac OSX obviously).
> >
> > The CPU usage will vary with what you have down with the browser. If you
> view
> > videos or have Java applets running and lots of open sites it get's
> comic. I
> > have seen Firefox use 80% on a fast machine.
> >
> > Turn everything off - it is unfortunate - but it is the only way to get
> your
> > machine back.
> >
> > Keith
> >  Keith McMillen
> > www.keithmcmillen.com
> > www.beamfoundation.org
> > "Music For A New Reason"
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 9:09:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: wow, that chrome helper sure eats up the cycles
> >
> > Warren, et alia,
> >
> > It's usually a good idea to turn EVERYTHING that's not involved in the
> > signal generation or processing OFF on either WIndows or OS X when
> > you're using a computer for audio. I was shocked to see how much
> > difference some of the seemingly innocuous things we run for "general"
> > computing made when left running when trying to use the computer for
> > any audio-related activities. One of the big culprits is the graphics
> > card...Airport, FileSharing (there's constant "pinging" going on
> > there), the list goes on ...
> >
> > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin
> > http://audiozoloft.com
> > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
> wrote:
> >> I'm running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, although this
> may
> >> well apply to Windows too.
> >> I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed to be
> >> taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked in
> >> activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed it, and
> >> things are better.
> >> Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Warren
> >> http://www.warrensirota.com
> >> NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
> >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Warren
http://www.warrensirota.com
NEW CD: Loops, Live & Otw
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota

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I think the upshot is that before you play, it&#39;s always a good idea to =
check Activity Monitor (OSX) or Task Manager (Win) to see if there are more=
 processes eating up cpu. You can easily sort these lists on cpu %. That ch=
rome process isn&#39;t there for me all the time, but i had in fact quit ch=
rome an hour earlier when i discovered it (so I wasn&#39;t trying to check =
email while playing).<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Per Boysen =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Come on, guys - who cares what cycles a web browser eats in 2010!!!<br>
You aren&#39;t checking email on stage are you? ;-))<br>
<br>
I prefere Chrome for the only reason that it gives me a fast and<br>
convenient edit window in Gmail and in the Wordpress admin system.<br>
Plus that it remembers a set-up of default tabs (if Safari did that I<br>
would rathe use that one, but efficiency is what counts for me)<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, keith mcmillen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:keefer07@yahoo.com">keefer07@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I watch this pretty closely and I see Firefox as the worse offender, f=
ollowed by<br>
&gt; Chrome and then Safari. =A0(Mac OSX obviously).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The CPU usage will vary with what you have down with the browser. If y=
ou view<br>
&gt; videos or have Java applets running and lots of open sites it get&#39;=
s comic. I<br>
&gt; have seen Firefox use 80% on a fast machine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Turn everything off - it is unfortunate - but it is the only way to ge=
t your<br>
&gt; machine back.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Keith<br>
&gt; =A0Keith McMillen<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.keithmcmillen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.keithmc=
millen.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.beamfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">www.beamfo=
undation.org</a><br>
&gt; &quot;Music For A New Reason&quot;<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message ----<br>
&gt; From: Dennis Moser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sinsofmachaut@gmail.com">sins=
ofmachaut@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 9:09:09 AM<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: wow, that chrome helper sure eats up the cycles<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Warren, et alia,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It&#39;s usually a good idea to turn EVERYTHING that&#39;s not involve=
d in the<br>
&gt; signal generation or processing OFF on either WIndows or OS X when<br>
&gt; you&#39;re using a computer for audio. I was shocked to see how much<b=
r>
&gt; difference some of the seemingly innocuous things we run for &quot;gen=
eral&quot;<br>
&gt; computing made when left running when trying to use the computer for<b=
r>
&gt; any audio-related activities. One of the big culprits is the graphics<=
br>
&gt; card...Airport, FileSharing (there&#39;s constant &quot;pinging&quot; =
going on<br>
&gt; there), the list goes on ...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin" target=3D"_blank">http://sou=
ndcloud.com/usrsbin</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://audiozoloft.com" target=3D"_blank">http://audiozolof=
t.com</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://u=
srslashsbin.angrek.com/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Warren Sirota &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:w=
sirota@wsdesigns.com">wsirota@wsdesigns.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;m running on OSX, and I use Chrome as a browser mostly, alth=
ough this may<br>
&gt;&gt; well apply to Windows too.<br>
&gt;&gt; I was wondering why my system, processing-heavy tho it is, seemed =
to be<br>
&gt;&gt; taxing my new computer more than I thought reasonable. So I looked=
 in<br>
&gt;&gt; activity monitor - Chrome helper was eating 41% of a cpu! killed i=
t, and<br>
&gt;&gt; things are better.<br>
&gt;&gt; Note, this was *after* having quit Chrome and shut off Airport!<br=
>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Warren<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.warrensirota.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; NEW CD: Loops, Live &amp; Otw<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Warren<br><=
a href=3D"http://www.warrensirota.com">http://www.warrensirota.com</a><br>N=
EW CD: Loops, Live &amp; Otw<br><a href=3D"http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrens=
irota">http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/warrensirota</a><br>


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great work Andy,i remeber liking this voice guitar stuff because i like to
loop with those 2 as well.
Strange that you cant see the vids,i just tried them myself and they work
but try this links again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC1DM71uA3Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrZ1hEFkOA&feature=related

i crack up now when i see the titles of my vids as Boss loop contest
this is really weird because ive always disliked boss loopers;-))
Luis

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great work Andy,i remeber liking this voice guitar stuff because i like to =
loop with those 2 as well.<br>Strange that you cant see the vids,i just tri=
ed them myself and they work<br>but try this links again:<br><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Drelated">http:/=
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqC1DM71uA3Y&amp;feature=3Drelated</a><br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Dr=
elated">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjFrZ1hEFkOA&amp;feature=3Drelated<=
/a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">i crack up now when i see the titles =
of my vids as Boss loop contest<br>
this is really weird because ive always disliked boss loopers;-))<br>Luis<b=
r></div><br>

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British Audio Service (in the US, despite the name)

http://www.britishaudioservice.com/



On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>wrote:

> Anyone currently doing EDP repairs in the US? California? asking for a
> friend.
>  Bill "you should probably check the archives" Walker
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Luis, yes... your songs are great.... great music & mood - not only looping :-))

> >> ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)
Well, you are already disqualified: max. 5min song length! ;-)

Ir really seems to be international, with local contests and an international final.
Personally, I find nothing wrong: they give people a chance to show what they can do with a Boss looper. They get coverage, some unknown artists can show off - fine with me ;-) Well, maybe except the "best looper in the world" thing ;-))
Actually, it would be really fun to loop some irrelevant stuff on an RC-2, show that Boss looper on the video, while doing all the rest with you usual setup ;-)

Btw, Rico Looper is in the German jury - so if you want to complain, why not address him?

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I scanned the article ... download the PDF here:
http://www.michaelpeters.de/temp/bemf.pdf

-Michael

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Hi guys,

Is there some information online yet regarding the Santa Cruz
International Live Looping Festival in October?

I'm finding myself in a key position to promote the festival in
Scandinavia but finding no links... Especially the
concert/clinic/workshop programs would be handy now, since radio
features are planned in advance by producer group's estimation of how
interesting the event might be for the listeners of each particular
show.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Hi Everyone,

I was planning to buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally
scheduled for release "by the second quarter", if my memory serves me
correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too
well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FCB is
going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softstep... I
would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FCB. Has someone
heard anything on what's up with the SS manufacturing?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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hey Per, the only thing I have seen so far is this: 
http://www.y2kloopfest.com/

Are you going to be there this year?

best,

j

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> Hi guys,
>
> Is there some information online yet regarding the Santa Cruz
> International Live Looping Festival in October?
>
> I'm finding myself in a key position to promote the festival in
> Scandinavia but finding no links... Especially the
> concert/clinic/workshop programs would be handy now, since radio
> features are planned in advance by producer group's estimation of how
> interesting the event might be for the listeners of each particular
> show.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
> 

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Yeah.. me too.. exactly same story. I sent in my name into the PRE-order
list thingy, but have NO idea whether it worked or whatnot..
I hope I can get one before YK2X.. There no way I wanna schlep that 1010
round the globe, specially as its only half working...!!

MArk


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I was planning to buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally
> scheduled for release "by the second quarter", if my memory serves me
> correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too
> well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FCB is
> going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softstep... I
> would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FCB. Has someone
> heard anything on what's up with the SS manufacturing?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


-- 
mark francombe
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Yeah.. me too.. exactly same story. I sent in my name into the PRE-order li=
st thingy, but have NO idea whether it worked or whatnot..<br>I hope I can =
get one before YK2X.. There no way I wanna schlep that 1010 round the globe=
, specially as its only half working...!!<br>

<br>MArk<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:06=
 PM, Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com=
">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Hi Everyone,<br>
<br>
I was planning to buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally<br>
scheduled for release &quot;by the second quarter&quot;, if my memory serve=
s me<br>
correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too<br>
well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FCB is<br>
going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softstep... I<br>
would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FCB. Has someone<br>
heard anything on what&#39;s up with the SS manufacturing?<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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What are the dates?  I might be able to make it this year.



On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> Is there some information online yet regarding the Santa Cruz
> International Live Looping Festival in October?

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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> hey Per, the only thing I have seen so far is this:
> http://www.y2kloopfest.com/

Thanks, Jeff! I will monitor that page to see if something comes up.


> Are you going to be there this year?

Definitely! But I will have to stick with just a flute for audio
source to play my looping laptop, since I found out that Chapman Stick
playing sends too much physical vibrations into my abdominal muscles,
and they still need a bit of  vacation to mend since the major surgery
I took on back in July. But that's ok - I'm fine with flute, although
it would have been nice to bring something I have not been using
earlier years. This festival is going to be so fun! Feels more like
going to a party than going to a gig ;-))  Can't wait to meet
everyone!


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:53 PM, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
> What are the dates?

You can find them on the web site Jeff lists above!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Great Per! You may be playing "only" the flute but it will be new for me to 
see you play it live!
I am really looking forward to this! See you there.

j


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> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> hey Per, the only thing I have seen so far is this:
>> http://www.y2kloopfest.com/
>
> Thanks, Jeff! I will monitor that page to see if something comes up.
>
>
>> Are you going to be there this year?
>
> Definitely! But I will have to stick with just a flute for audio
> source to play my looping laptop, since I found out that Chapman Stick
> playing sends too much physical vibrations into my abdominal muscles,
> and they still need a bit of  vacation to mend since the major surgery
> I took on back in July. But that's ok - I'm fine with flute, although
> it would have been nice to bring something I have not been using
> earlier years. This festival is going to be so fun! Feels more like
> going to a party than going to a gig ;-))  Can't wait to meet
> everyone!
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:53 PM, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
>> What are the dates?
>
> You can find them on the web site Jeff lists above!
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
> 

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Yup, that's it. I am managing the site this year and adding info as Rick 
feeds it to me.
Kris


> hey Per, the only thing I have seen so far is this: 
> http://www.y2kloopfest.com/

>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Is there some information online yet regarding the Santa Cruz
>> International Live Looping Festival in October?
>>
>> I'm finding myself in a key position to promote the festival in
>> Scandinavia but finding no links... Especially the
>> concert/clinic/workshop programs would be handy now, since radio
>> features are planned in advance by producer group's estimation of how
>> interesting the event might be for the listeners of each particular
>> show.

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thanx Buzap,yeah is not really the looper that matters we all know
that,there are guys doing relly good things with boss loopers
i just wont buy any of those loopers that try to correct your timing and tr=
y
to put a suit and tie on you:-)
i had the RC-2 briefly to try out but could not warm up to it
and yes Rico should be the judge hes really good with the RC-50!
cheers
Luis

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> Luis, yes... your songs are great.... great music & mood - not only loopi=
ng
> :-))
>
> > >> ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss looping contest:-)
> Well, you are already disqualified: max. 5min song length! ;-)
>
> Ir really seems to be international, with local contests and an
> international final.
> Personally, I find nothing wrong: they give people a chance to show what
> they can do with a Boss looper. They get coverage, some unknown artists c=
an
> show off - fine with me ;-) Well, maybe except the "best looper in the
> world" thing ;-))
> Actually, it would be really fun to loop some irrelevant stuff on an RC-2=
,
> show that Boss looper on the video, while doing all the rest with you usu=
al
> setup ;-)
>
> Btw, Rico Looper is in the German jury - so if you want to complain, why
> not address him?
>
> best regards
>  Buzap
> --
> GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 f=FCr nur 19,99 =BF/mtl.=
!*
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<div>thanx Buzap,yeah is not really the looper that matters we all know tha=
t,there are guys doing relly good things with boss loopers</div>
<div>i just wont buy any of those loopers that try to correct your timing a=
nd try to put a suit and tie on you:-)</div>
<div>i had the RC-2 briefly to try out=A0but could not warm up to it</div>
<div>and yes=A0Rico should be the judge hes really good with the RC-50!</di=
v>
<div>cheers</div>
<div>Luis<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Buzap Buzap <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buzap@gmx.net">buzap@gmx.net</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Luis, yes... your songs are grea=
t.... great music &amp; mood - not only looping :-))<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>&gt; &gt;&gt; ja,ja, i never thought id be in a boss =
looping contest:-)<br></div>Well, you are already disqualified: max. 5min s=
ong length! ;-)<br><br>Ir really seems to be international, with local cont=
ests and an international final.<br>
Personally, I find nothing wrong: they give people a chance to show what th=
ey can do with a Boss looper. They get coverage, some unknown artists can s=
how off - fine with me ;-) Well, maybe except the &quot;best looper in the =
world&quot; thing ;-))<br>
Actually, it would be really fun to loop some irrelevant stuff on an RC-2, =
show that Boss looper on the video, while doing all the rest with you usual=
 setup ;-)<br><br>Btw, Rico Looper is in the German jury - so if you want t=
o complain, why not address him?<br>
<br>best regards<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">Buzap<br>--<br>GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf &amp; Phone F=
lat 16.000 f=FCr nur 19,99 =BF/mtl.!*<br><a href=3D"http://portal.gmx.net/d=
e/go/dsl" target=3D"_blank">http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl</a><br><br></di=
v></div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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Maybe if enough traveling people need one you could chip in and buy a
loop fest FCB and use an editor to load your personal settings as
needed at the fest.  You couldn't have people scheduled too closely
but it might be easier than everyone hauling one around on planes and
such.

Just a thought for you all.

K

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
> Yeah.. me too.. exactly same story. I sent in my name into the PRE-order
> list thingy, but have NO idea whether it worked or whatnot..
> I hope I can get one before YK2X.. There no way I wanna schlep that 1010
> round the globe, specially as its only half working...!!
>
> MArk
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I was planning to buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally
>> scheduled for release "by the second quarter", if my memory serves me
>> correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too
>> well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FCB is
>> going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softstep... I
>> would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FCB. Has someone
>> heard anything on what's up with the SS manufacturing?
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>>
>
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
>



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Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
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The Festival website has always been   www.y2kloopfest.com

We've had a lot of constantly changing information about lineup and venues
On top of that, Warren Sirota who is doing the website can't really commit
any really time to it until Sept 1 due to work constraints.  Kris Hartung
has put up a short page and I'll try to get more information to him as soon
as I can.

I'm sorry I'm not as together as in the past, but

1) the number of artists coming is
overwhelming this year.
2)I am still having problems finding places for everyone to stay (and 
working hard
every single day to do so)
3) and enough venue space for everyone to perform (there are 4 less 
venues in Santa Cruz than there were last year due to the recession
4) I've received less than a quarter of the donations that I've received 
in previous years

I'll get you information as soon as I can.  I have to have it soon for 
the press here in Santa Cruz as well.

yours,  Rick Walker

Per Boysen wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> Is there some information online yet regarding the Santa Cruz
> International Live Looping Festival in October?
>
> I'm finding myself in a key position to promote the festival in
> Scandinavia but finding no links... Especially the
> concert/clinic/workshop programs would be handy now, since radio
> features are planned in advance by producer group's estimation of how
> interesting the event might be for the listeners of each particular
> show.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>   

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HI David,
The festival is going to be wonderful this year.....and HUGE!!!!!
Right now,  80+ artists are set to perform from 16 countries.
We'd love it if you could make it.

Unfortunately,    all the performance slots have been filled for the 
last three months
so there aren't any more openings. I already have a very long waiting 
list of artists
who want a slot if one opens up.  A few do each year but this year I 
won't be able
to accomodate everyone, unfortunately.  I just don't have the resources.

Rick

David Gans wrote:
> What are the dates?  I might be able to make it this year.
>
>
>   

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Hi everyone,

So far, donations for this year's Y2K-X festival are running a little under
25% from previous years.

The festival this year is going to be close to twice as large.

This has been a tough recessionary year and I know things are really tight.

So,  it is not lightly that I ask if you could consider donating some funds
to help the festival come off.

The price of admission doesn't come close to covering all of my costs
and so many people are coming this year that we're going to have a hard
time raising very much money at the door.

If you have anything to give,  it will cover the costs of sleeping bags, 
transportation
and many incidental costs.

My paypal account is         looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot sign)com

Thanks a lot,

yours,   Rick Walker

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Jeff Duke schrieb:
> Great Per! You may be playing "only" the flute but it will be new for 
> me to see you play it live!
> I am really looking forward to this! See you there.
Hey Jeff,

I'm not sure if Per likes to hear that, but in my opinion, the best 
medium for Per to express his artistry is the flute. You should look 
forward to it!

          Rainer

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Rick,

I have a budget to enable me to come to the festival. I will obviously need
some money to eat and so-on, but I had already decided that I will be
leaving the US with exactly 1 dollar, for my scrap-book. The rest is yours.

I hope everyone on the list can put in something, Rick really needs us now,
maybe someone can put together that kickstarter project? I would but its
currently not operating out of the US, I'm sure Rick has too much to do to
just be fund raising.

What about Boss, maybe they want to participate? he he ..probably not..

Mark



On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> So far, donations for this year's Y2K-X festival are running a little under
> 25% from previous years.
>
> The festival this year is going to be close to twice as large.
>
> This has been a tough recessionary year and I know things are really tight.
>
> So,  it is not lightly that I ask if you could consider donating some funds
> to help the festival come off.
>
> The price of admission doesn't come close to covering all of my costs
> and so many people are coming this year that we're going to have a hard
> time raising very much money at the door.
>
> If you have anything to give,  it will cover the costs of sleeping bags,
> transportation
> and many incidental costs.
>
> My paypal account is         looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot sign)com
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> yours,   Rick Walker
>
>


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Rick, <br><br>I have a budget to enable me to come to the festival. I will =
obviously need some money to eat and so-on, but I had already decided that =
I will be leaving the US with exactly 1 dollar, for my scrap-book. The rest=
 is yours.<br>

<br>I hope everyone on the list can put in something, Rick really needs us =
now, maybe someone can put together that kickstarter project? I would but i=
ts currently not operating out of the US, I&#39;m sure Rick has too much to=
 do to just be fund raising.<br>

<br>What about Boss, maybe they want to participate? he he ..probably not..=
<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010=
 at 11:49 PM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looppool@=
cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
So far, donations for this year&#39;s Y2K-X festival are running a little u=
nder<br>
25% from previous years.<br>
<br>
The festival this year is going to be close to twice as large.<br>
<br>
This has been a tough recessionary year and I know things are really tight.=
<br>
<br>
So, =A0it is not lightly that I ask if you could consider donating some fun=
ds<br>
to help the festival come off.<br>
<br>
The price of admission doesn&#39;t come close to covering all of my costs<b=
r>
and so many people are coming this year that we&#39;re going to have a hard=
<br>
time raising very much money at the door.<br>
<br>
If you have anything to give, =A0it will cover the costs of sleeping bags, =
transportation<br>
and many incidental costs.<br>
<br>
My paypal account is =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot sign)com<b=
r>
<br>
Thanks a lot,<br>
<br>
yours, =A0 Rick Walker<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markfrancomb=
e<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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very good idea Kevin!
just make sure you use the same Eprom Chip if you program the fcb1010 with
Ripwerx!
ive actually sort of done this with Rick when i go there he has lent me his
and when he was here i did the same
the thing, is just too bulky to haul around and is becoming very anoying to
travel with
 on the other hand ive read somewhere that the FCB1010 can be modified to be
phantomed power through the midi cable how true is that?
though i doubt that it would be reliable plugged in through a soundcard
which is also powered through a firewire cable through your macbook
i havent had the time to look into the softstep documentation but since i
program mobius and the EDP mostly with "notes on" would it be able
to control them as well?and i take it if i use it with the EDP id need that
midi expander right?
if this available before the Santa Cruz festival add me to your list!

Luis

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
<billowhead@gmail.com>wrote:

> Maybe if enough traveling people need one you could chip in and buy a
> loop fest FCB and use an editor to load your personal settings as
> needed at the fest.  You couldn't have people scheduled too closely
> but it might be easier than everyone hauling one around on planes and
> such.
>
> Just a thought for you all.
>
> K
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > Yeah.. me too.. exactly same story. I sent in my name into the PRE-order
> > list thingy, but have NO idea whether it worked or whatnot..
> > I hope I can get one before YK2X.. There no way I wanna schlep that 1010
> > round the globe, specially as its only half working...!!
> >
> > MArk
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> I was planning to buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally
> >> scheduled for release "by the second quarter", if my memory serves me
> >> correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too
> >> well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FCB is
> >> going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softstep... I
> >> would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FCB. Has someone
> >> heard anything on what's up with the SS manufacturing?
> >>
> >> Greetings from Sweden
> >>
> >> Per Boysen
> >> www.boysen.se
> >> www.perboysen.com
> >> www.looproom.com internet music hub
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>  > mark francombe
> > www.markfrancombe.com
> > www.ordoabkhao.com
> > twitter @markfrancombe
> > http://vimeo.com/user825094
> > http://www.looop.no
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>

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<div>very good idea Kevin! </div>
<div>just make sure you=A0use the same Eprom Chip if you program the fcb101=
0 with Ripwerx!</div>
<div>ive actually sort of done this with Rick when i go there he has lent m=
e his and when he was here i did the same</div>
<div>the thing, is just too bulky to haul around and is becoming very anoyi=
ng to travel with</div>
<div>
<div>on the other hand ive read somewhere that the FCB1010 can be modified =
to be phantomed power through the midi cable how true is that?</div>
<div>though i doubt that it would be reliable plugged in through a soundcar=
d which is also powered through a firewire cable=A0through your macbook</di=
v></div>
<div>i havent had the time to look into the softstep documentation=A0but si=
nce i program mobius and the EDP mostly=A0with &quot;notes on&quot;=A0would=
 it be able to=A0control them as=A0well?and i take it if i use it with the =
EDP id need that midi expander right?</div>

<div>if this available before the Santa Cruz festival add me to your list!<=
/div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Luis<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Kevin Cheli-Co=
lando <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billowhead@gmail.com">billowh=
ead@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Maybe if enough traveling people=
 need one you could chip in and buy a<br>loop fest FCB and use an editor to=
 load your personal settings as<br>
needed at the fest. =A0You couldn&#39;t have people scheduled too closely<b=
r>but it might be easier than everyone hauling one around on planes and<br>=
such.<br><br>Just a thought for you all.<br><br>K<br><br>On Tue, Aug 24, 20=
10 at 11:48 AM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com=
">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Yeah.. me too.. exactly same story. I sent in my name into the PRE-ord=
er<br>&gt; list thingy, but have NO idea whether it worked or whatnot..<br>=
&gt; I hope I can get one before YK2X.. There no way I wanna schlep that 10=
10<br>
&gt; round the globe, specially as its only half working...!!<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; MArk<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Per Boysen=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Hi Everyone,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I was planning to=
 buy the Softstep pedal since it was originally<br>&gt;&gt; scheduled for r=
elease &quot;by the second quarter&quot;, if my memory serves me<br>&gt;&gt=
; correctly. This did not happen and today I was struck by the all too<br>
&gt;&gt; well known symptom of a dying Behringer FCB1010. Help! My third FC=
B is<br>&gt;&gt; going belly-up, gigs are incoming and no word on the Softs=
tep... I<br>&gt;&gt; would really love to get a chance to avoid a fourth FC=
B. Has someone<br>
&gt;&gt; heard anything on what&#39;s up with the SS manufacturing?<br>&gt;=
&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Greetings from Sweden<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Per Boysen<b=
r>&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se/" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.s=
e</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.perboy=
sen.com</a><br>&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">www.looproom.com</a> internet music hub<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5">&gt; mark francombe<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.markfra=
ncombe.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D=
"http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>&g=
t; twitter @markfrancombe<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo=
.com/user825094</a><br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.looop.no</a><br>&gt;<br><br><br><br></div></div><font color=
=3D"#888888">--<br>
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a<br>=
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<=
br><br>- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)<br><br>Sound and Vision:=A0 <a href=3D=
"http://www.minds-eye.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.minds-eye.org</a><=
br>
Video <a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos</a><br><br></font></blockquote></div=
><br>

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Thanks for all the comments. This should give me something to go on.


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At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine  
for at home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems  
with latency, but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set  
up and take down.

What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers  
and then back out?

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I personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to get a
Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects options. Most
USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the biggie is obviously the
Preamp.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

> At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at
> home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency,
> but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down.
>
> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers and
> then back out?
>
>


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/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at =
home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency,=
 but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down.=
<br>

<br>
What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers and =
then back out?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s One Man Band=
 Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.faceb=
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is it just me or do you also have problems seeing/hearing the music player
on myspace pages?  -Michael

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I'm happy with my Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic =
preamps more than anything else.  Good value for the price.

Doc

On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote:

> I personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to =
get a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects =
options. Most USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the biggie is =
obviously the Preamp.
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
> At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine =
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up and take down.
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> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers =
and then back out?
>=20
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> Rafa's One Man Band Online:
> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm happy with my&nbsp;Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic preamps more than anything else. &nbsp;Good value for the price.<div><br></div><div>Doc</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to get a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects options. Most USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the biggie is obviously the Preamp.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency, but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down.<br>

<br>
What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers and then back out?<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Rafa's One Man Band Online:<br><a href="http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" target="_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239</a><div>
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Wow! That does look like a nice little unit.

So, the Saffire would be the front end with mikes and DI from the my  
guitar amp, then connected to the firewire interface on my computer.

Then for the signal going to the mixing board at the venue, would I  
take that out of the audio out of the computer, or can I take that  
back out of the Saffire?




On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:42 PM, doc rossi wrote:

> I'm happy with my Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic  
> preamps more than anything else.  Good value for the price.
>
> Doc
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote:
>
>> I personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to  
>> get a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects  
>> options. Most USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the  
>> biggie is obviously the Preamp.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine  
>> for at home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates  
>> problems with latency, but it is way to bulky to carry around and a  
>> PITA to set up and take down.
>>
>> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your  
>> computers and then back out?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Rafa's One Man Band Online:
>> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc
>> http://vimeo.com/11499020
>> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband
>>
>


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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Wow! That does look like a nice =
little unit.<div><br></div><div>So, the Saffire would be the front end =
with mikes and DI from the my guitar amp, then connected to the firewire =
interface on my computer.</div><div><br></div><div>Then for the signal =
going to the mixing board at the venue, would I take that out of the =
audio out of the computer, or can I take that back out of the =
Saffire?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div>On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:42 PM, doc rossi wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm happy with =
my&nbsp;Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic preamps more =
than anything else. &nbsp;Good value for the =
price.<div><br></div><div>Doc</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 25, 2010, =
at 8:14 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite">I =
personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to get a =
Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects options. =
Most USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the biggie is =
obviously the Preamp.<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, =
2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> At home I use an =
iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at home. The =
firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency, but it =
is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down.<br> =
<br> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your =
computers and then back out?<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br =
clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa's One Man Band Online:<br><a =
href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br><a =
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The Saffire would be your ins and outs for audio into and out of the
computer, and would connect with 1 cable to the firewire port on your
computer. From the Saffire you can have outputs for a mixer or amp, etc.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow! That does look like a nice little unit.
>
> So, the Saffire would be the front end with mikes and DI from the my guitar
> amp, then connected to the firewire interface on my computer.
>
> Then for the signal going to the mixing board at the venue, would I take
> that out of the audio out of the computer, or can I take that back out of
> the Saffire?
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 3:42 PM, doc rossi wrote:
>
> I'm happy with my Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic preamps
> more than anything else.  Good value for the price.
>
> Doc
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Rafael Nunes wrote:
>
> I personally use an M-Audio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to get a
> Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP though, for its routing/effects options. Most
> USB/Firewire interfaces have useable in/out, the biggie is obviously the
> Preamp.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <toejampc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at
>> home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency,
>> but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down.
>>
>> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computers and
>> then back out?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rafa's One Man Band Online:
> http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwwsee6K1Sc
> http://vimeo.com/11499020
> http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband
>
>
>
>


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The Saffire would be your ins and outs for audio into and out of the comput=
er, and would connect with 1 cable to the firewire port on your computer. F=
rom the Saffire you can have outputs for a mixer or amp, etc.<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Philip <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:toejampc@gmail.com">toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Wow! That does look like a nice little =
unit.<div><br></div><div>So, the Saffire would be the front end with mikes =
and DI from the my guitar amp, then connected to the firewire interface on =
my computer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Then for the signal going to the mixing board at the ve=
nue, would I take that out of the audio out of the computer, or can I take =
that back out of the Saffire?</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Au=
g 25, 2010, at 3:42 PM, doc rossi wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I&#39;m happy with my=A0Focusrite Saff=
ire Pro 24 - I chose it for the mic preamps more than anything else. =A0Goo=
d value for the price.<div>
<br></div><div>Doc</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:14 AM, Raf=
ael Nunes wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">I personally use an M-A=
udio Fast Track Pro USB interface. I want to get a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24=
 DSP though, for its routing/effects options. Most USB/Firewire interfaces =
have useable in/out, the biggie is obviously the Preamp.<br>
 <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Philip <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:toejampc@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
toejampc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 At home I use an iMac, Logic and a Mackie Onyx 1220 This works fine for at=
 home. The firewire connection pretty much eliminates problems with latency=
, but it is way to bulky to carry around and a PITA to set up and take down=
.<br>
 <br> What do you computer loopers use for getting sound into your computer=
s and then back out?<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>=
-- <br>Rafa&#39;s One Man Band Online:<br><a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband=
.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><=
br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/3326175323=
9</a><div> <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11=
499020</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband</a></div> <br> </blockquote>=
</div>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote=
></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Rafa&#39;s One Man Band Online:<br>=
<a href=3D"http://rafasonemanband.bandcamp.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://r=
afasonemanband.bandcamp.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/33261753239" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rafas-One-Man-Band/3326175323=
9</a><div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZwwsee6K1Sc</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/11499020" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/11=
499020</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/rafasonemanband" target=3D"=
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Louie Angulo wrote:

> on the other hand ive read somewhere that the FCB1010 can be modified to 
> be phantomed power through the midi cable how true is that?

This is the "cut the expression pedals off" mod.
As the psu of the fcb1010 is situated near the pedals
it works out easier to make it separate.

Of course, you still need a psu that's the right spec,
just that it now sits in your rack.

andy

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A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their signals to
their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario than most.

So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg

Now at the top of the "box" you see the inputs, (I need 3 stereo and 2 mono
inputs)
below them you see where they simply are connected straight out and go to my
mixer inputs,
In between, I take a connection from both sides of the stereo and sum them
together, this will result in 2 looper outputs, The stereo outputs should
really be summed properly, but here I just conected them together, send them
to both edp inputs (which is mono) and to ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is
stereo) The OTHER side of the stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side
of the Repeater.

NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use repeater (say
for synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects result in mono, so no
need..

For a second, I thought... "but I can MAKE this on my patchbay" with alot of
little cables.. but then wait.. I see the problem... by doing this I of
course am accidentally connecting the input ONE to ALL the other outputs,
and it will not come up alone on its dedicated mixer channel.. so... Im back
to the same problem...

What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?

mark

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A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their signals t=
o their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario than most.<br><br>=
So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><a href=3D"http://=
img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg">http://img.skitch.c=
om/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg</a><br>

<br>Now at the top of the &quot;box&quot; you see the inputs, (I need 3 ste=
reo and 2 mono inputs)<br>below them you see where they simply are connecte=
d straight out and go to my mixer inputs,<br>In between, I take a connectio=
n from both sides of the stereo and sum them together, this will result in =
2 looper outputs, The stereo outputs should really be summed properly, but =
here I just conected them together, send them to both edp inputs (which is =
mono) and to ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is stereo) The OTHER side of the=
 stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side of the Repeater.<br>

<br>NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use repeater (=
say for synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects result in mono, so =
no need..<br><br>For a second, I thought... &quot;but I can MAKE this on my=
 patchbay&quot; with alot of little cables.. but then wait.. I see the prob=
lem... by doing this I of course am accidentally connecting the input ONE t=
o ALL the other outputs, and it will not come up alone on its dedicated mix=
er channel.. so... Im back to the same problem...<br>

<br>What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?<br><br>mark<br c=
lear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancom=
be.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">=
www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vi=
meo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.=
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Try the switcheblade.
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-25, at 11:25, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

> A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their  
> signals to their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario  
> than most.
>
> So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
> http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg
>
> Now at the top of the "box" you see the inputs, (I need 3 stereo and  
> 2 mono inputs)
> below them you see where they simply are connected straight out and  
> go to my mixer inputs,
> In between, I take a connection from both sides of the stereo and  
> sum them together, this will result in 2 looper outputs, The stereo  
> outputs should really be summed properly, but here I just conected  
> them together, send them to both edp inputs (which is mono) and to  
> ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is stereo) The OTHER side of the  
> stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side of the Repeater.
>
> NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use  
> repeater (say for synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects  
> result in mono, so no need..
>
> For a second, I thought... "but I can MAKE this on my patchbay" with  
> alot of little cables.. but then wait.. I see the problem... by  
> doing this I of course am accidentally connecting the input ONE to  
> ALL the other outputs, and it will not come up alone on its  
> dedicated mixer channel.. so... Im back to the same problem...
>
> What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?
>
> mark
>
> -- 
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Try the switcheblade.</div><div>Antony<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 2010-08-25, at 11:25, mark francombe &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their signals to their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario than most.<br><br>So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE&gt;&gt;&gt;<br><a href="http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg"><a href="http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg">http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg</a></a><br>

<br>Now at the top of the "box" you see the inputs, (I need 3 stereo and 2 mono inputs)<br>below them you see where they simply are connected straight out and go to my mixer inputs,<br>In between, I take a connection from both sides of the stereo and sum them together, this will result in 2 looper outputs, The stereo outputs should really be summed properly, but here I just conected them together, send them to both edp inputs (which is mono) and to ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is stereo) The OTHER side of the stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side of the Repeater.<br>

<br>NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use repeater (say for synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects result in mono, so no need..<br><br>For a second, I thought... "but I can MAKE this on my patchbay" with alot of little cables.. but then wait.. I see the problem... by doing this I of course am accidentally connecting the input ONE to ALL the other outputs, and it will not come up alone on its dedicated mixer channel.. so... Im back to the same problem...<br>

<br>What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?<br><br>mark<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com"><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a></a><br><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com"><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a></a><br>

twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href="http://vimeo.com/user825094"><a href="http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a></a><br><a href="http://www.looop.no"><a href="http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a></a><br>
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http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_about.htm




________________________________
From: Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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Try the switcheblade.
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-25, at 11:25, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:


A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their signals to 
their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario than most.
>
>So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
>http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg
>
>Now at the top of the "box" you see the inputs, (I need 3 stereo and 2 mono 
>inputs)
>below them you see where they simply are connected straight out and go to my 
>mixer inputs,
>In between, I take a connection from both sides of the stereo and sum them 
>together, this will result in 2 looper outputs, The stereo outputs should really 
>be summed properly, but here I just conected them together, send them to both 
>edp inputs (which is mono) and to ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is stereo) The 
>OTHER side of the stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side of the Repeater.
>
>NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use repeater (say for 
>synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects result in mono, so no need..
>
>For a second, I thought... "but I can MAKE this on my patchbay" with alot of 
>little cables.. but then wait.. I see the problem... by doing this I of course 
>am accidentally connecting the input ONE to ALL the other outputs, and it will 
>not come up alone on its dedicated mixer channel.. so... Im back to the same 
>problem...
>
>What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?
>
>mark
>
>-- 
>mark francombe
>www.markfrancombe.com
>www.ordoabkhao.com
>twitter @markfrancombe
>http://vimeo.com/user825094
>http://www.looop.no
>



      
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Antony Hequet &lt;antonyhequet@yahoo.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, August 25, 2010 11:38:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: splitter box/patch bay thing<BR></FONT><BR>
<DIV>Try the switcheblade.</DIV>
<DIV>Antony<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 2010-08-25, at 11:25, mark francombe &lt;<A href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<DIV>A while back I posted that I was wondering how people split their signals to their loopers. Of course I have a more tricky scenario than most.<BR><BR>So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR><A href="http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg</A><BR><BR>Now at the top of the "box" you see the inputs, (I need 3 stereo and 2 mono inputs)<BR>below them you see where they simply are connected straight out and go to my mixer inputs,<BR>In between, I take a connection from both sides of the stereo and sum them together, this will result in 2 looper outputs, The stereo outputs should really be summed properly, but here I just conected them together, send them to both edp inputs (which is mono) and to ONE SIDE of my repeater(which is stereo) The OTHER side of the stereo inputs are connected to the OTHER side of the
 Repeater.<BR><BR>NOW... This means that if I NEED to loop in stereo I can use repeater (say for synthy washes and pads) but most guitar effects result in mono, so no need..<BR><BR>For a second, I thought... "but I can MAKE this on my patchbay" with alot of little cables.. but then wait.. I see the problem... by doing this I of course am accidentally connecting the input ONE to ALL the other outputs, and it will not come up alone on its dedicated mixer channel.. so... Im back to the same problem...<BR><BR>What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?<BR><BR>mark<BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>mark francombe<BR><A href="http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow><A href="http://www.markfrancombe.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.markfrancombe.com</A></A><BR><A href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow><A href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.ordoabkhao.com</A></A><BR>twitter
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yes, the switchblade is the obvious, but expensive, solution

i used a simple passive headphone splitter in the back of my rack to split
my stereo signals to my loopers like this -
http://www.zingsmusic.com/product_info.php?cPath=242&products_id=2321&filter_id=

this should work for mono signals too

merging signals is more tricky, because you need power to do it, so i used a
behringer rack mixer, but before that i used a MAM mixer (now terratec) -
http://www.aulaactual.com/info/terratec/serie-sine.htm

any little mixer will do, of course

somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can't remember
who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it

sim

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:11 AM, <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.soundsculpture.com/products/switchblade_about.htm
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Wed, August 25, 2010 11:38:41 AM
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> Try the switcheblade.
> Antony
>
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yes, the switchblade is the obvious, but expensive, solution<br><br>i used =
a simple passive headphone splitter in the back of my rack to split my ster=
eo signals to my loopers like this - <a href=3D"http://www.zingsmusic.com/p=
roduct_info.php?cPath=3D242&amp;products_id=3D2321&amp;filter_id=3D">http:/=
/www.zingsmusic.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D242&amp;products_id=3D2321&amp=
;filter_id=3D</a> <br>
<br>this should work for mono signals too<br><br>merging signals is more tr=
icky, because you need power to do it, so i used a behringer rack mixer, bu=
t before that i used a MAM mixer (now terratec) - <a href=3D"http://www.aul=
aactual.com/info/terratec/serie-sine.htm">http://www.aulaactual.com/info/te=
rratec/serie-sine.htm</a><br>
<br>any little mixer will do, of course<br><br>somebody makes a 1u mixer/sp=
litter that will do both, but i can&#39;t remember who makes it. if it come=
s to me, i&#39;ll post it<br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:11 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:anto=
nyhequet@yahoo.com">antonyhequet@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Try the switcheblade.</div>
<div>Antony<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><=
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oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro

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>
> somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can't remember
> who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it
>
> sim
>
>
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oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br>somebody make=
s a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can&#39;t remember who makes=
 it. if it comes to me, i&#39;ll post it<br>
<br>sim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br></div></div></blockquote><=
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just looked at your pic. the headphone splitter won't work, as you have
multiple inputs, sorry

your best bet would be to use an 8 channel line mixer with two aux sends.
aux 1 could be for the left channels and aux 2 for the right

sim

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> oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris <
> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can't remember
>> who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it
>>
>> sim
>>
>>
>>

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just looked at your pic. the headphone splitter won&#39;t work, as you have=
 multiple inputs, sorry<br><br>your best bet would be to use an 8 channel l=
ine mixer with two aux sends. aux 1 could be for the left channels and aux =
2 for the right<br>
<br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM,=
 Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googl=
email.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1=
px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><=
br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon =
Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br>somebody make=
s a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can&#39;t remember who makes=
 it. if it comes to me, i&#39;ll post it<br>

<br>sim<div><div></div><div><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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like this one, perhaps -
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-EURORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=631230&CJAID=10381297&CJPID=2179950

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Simeon Harris <
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> just looked at your pic. the headphone splitter won't work, as you have
> multiple inputs, sorry
>
> your best bet would be to use an 8 channel line mixer with two aux sends.
> aux 1 could be for the left channels and aux 2 for the right
>
> sim
>
>
>
>>>
>

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like this one, perhaps - <a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr=
oduct/Behringer-EURORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=3D631230&amp;CJAID=3D1038129=
7&amp;CJPID=3D2179950">http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behring=
er-EURORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=3D631230&amp;CJAID=3D10381297&amp;CJPID=
=3D2179950</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Simeon Har=
ris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">=
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"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
just looked at your pic. the headphone splitter won&#39;t work, as you have=
 multiple inputs, sorry<br><br>your best bet would be to use an 8 channel l=
ine mixer with two aux sends. aux 1 could be for the left channels and aux =
2 for the right<br>

<br>sim<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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the behringer has enough channels that you could feed the output of the
loopers back into it and send a stereo mix out to your pa or whatnot. and
give you total control over what is being sent to which looper and the
relative mixes

hope that helps

sim

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Simeon Harris <
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> like this one, perhaps -
> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-EURORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=631230&CJAID=10381297&CJPID=2179950
>
>
>

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the behringer has enough channels that you could feed the output of the loo=
pers back into it and send a stereo mix out to your pa or whatnot. and give=
 you total control over what is being sent to which looper and the relative=
 mixes<br>
<br>hope that helps<br><br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Au=
g 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">simeonharris40@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">like this one, pe=
rhaps - <a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-E=
URORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=3D631230&amp;CJAID=3D10381297&amp;CJPID=3D217=
9950" target=3D"_blank">http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behrin=
ger-EURORACK-UB2442FXPRO-Mixer?sku=3D631230&amp;CJAID=3D10381297&amp;CJPID=
=3D2179950</a><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div>

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mark francombe wrote:

> 
> So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
> http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg
> 

> 
> What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?

you need a mixer with 2 aux sends.

There just aren't any boxes that do all that,
not even ones we can't afford.

Closest is the Behringer Ultralink, or the Rane un-clone 
of it. ...but I think the Behringer has one more connection.

Otherwise, you could y-split all your signals
into the mixer and ...another small (rack?) mixer like the
Alesis Ultramix line 8 (*not* better than Behringer)
or whatever takes your fancy.


...basically though, from a sound quality and hum avoidance
point of view doing everything with the mixer is best. 


> 
> mark


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Ok hear is the new issue.......sorry!!!

I have a crazt midi routing=2C I admit that =2C but it needs to be like tha=
t for a reason=2C but here goes..

My EDP is sending midi clock over to a merge box where it gets merged with =
the microkorg input  for keys...then into the proteus as a sound generator=
=20

the proteus has a second input=2C on this one i am sending in note data fro=
m my kaossilator pro (very cool)...



the issue is this...... if I put the proteus into Omni mode (which would be=
 preferable as I would like to aways have the presets being played byr the =
MKxl and the KoPro chage together) I can trigger off both devices=2C but I =
also hear the EDP "ticking" also (its set to channel 1A with the MK and KoP=
ro both set to 4a and 4B respectivley ).........

I thought I would be able to route out this problem by turning channel 1As =
volume to 0....or routing the sound out ot one of the non used sub outs=2C =
then simply not plug that into anything...but i cant seem to  get it to wor=
k.

has anyone else had this?

ta

Phill MyOneManBand
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<html><body><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10=
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my sound sculpture switchblade is on eBay right now. imo, you won't
find a better routing matrix. it's the ultimate analog patchbay and it
allows instantaneous re-routing!

- jim

On Wednesday, August 25, 2010, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> mark francombe wrote:
>
>
>
> So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
> http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?
>
>
> you need a mixer with 2 aux sends.
>
> There just aren't any boxes that do all that,
> not even ones we can't afford.
>
> Closest is the Behringer Ultralink, or the Rane un-clone of it. ...but I think the Behringer has one more connection.
>
> Otherwise, you could y-split all your signals
> into the mixer and ...another small (rack?) mixer like the
> Alesis Ultramix line 8 (*not* better than Behringer)
> or whatever takes your fancy.
>
>
> ...basically though, from a sound quality and hum avoidance
> point of view doing everything with the mixer is best.
>
>
>
> mark
>
>
>
>

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keith sorry if this has been asked,will it be ready to sell by october in
the U.S.?is either a new behringer or this and after seeing this i dont want
no more fcb!

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:27 PM, keith mcmillen <keefer07@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We have "Vegas Mode" already implemented on the SoftStep. Looks great.
>
> One think we did (because I am borderline psychotic) : you can have an
> action
> start the two color LED by each Key flash ata given rate. Obviously you
> need to
> have the light change immediately upon hitting the key, but this left is
> with
> possibly 10 LEDs flashing out of synch. So once activated, all LED Flashes
> come
> into phase over a 4 second period. Makes looking at the SoftStep even more
> coherent.
>
> K
>  Keith McMillen
> www.keithmcmillen.com
> www.beamfoundation.org
> "Music For A New Reason"
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 2:44:30 AM
> Subject: Re: SoftStep prests
>
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > I'm sticking with the Little Giant tho'..
> > ................the only one with a screensaver
>
>
> He, he... a screensaver - how cool! In the display I guess?
>
> I bet Keith will develop a free app that runs a random light show on
> the SoftStep, percolating the leds in a classic disco light organ
> fashion. Will look good on stage pre show - especially if using many
> Softsteps in your rig!  ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>

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keith sorry if this has been asked,will it be ready to sell by october in t=
he U.S.?is either a new behringer or this and after seeing this i dont want=
 no more fcb!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:2=
7 PM, keith mcmillen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keefer07@yahoo=
.com">keefer07@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">We have &quot;Veg=
as Mode&quot; already implemented on the SoftStep. Looks great.<br>
<br>
One think we did (because I am borderline psychotic) : you can have an acti=
on<br>
start the two color LED by each Key flash ata given rate. Obviously you nee=
d to<br>
have the light change immediately upon hitting the key, but this left is wi=
th<br>
possibly 10 LEDs flashing out of synch. So once activated, all LED Flashes =
come<br>
into phase over a 4 second period. Makes looking at the SoftStep even more<=
br>
coherent.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
K<br>
=A0Keith McMillen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.keithmcmillen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.keithmcmille=
n.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.beamfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">www.beamfoundat=
ion.org</a><br>
&quot;Music For A New Reason&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----<br>
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To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@=
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</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 2:44:30 =
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Subject: Re: SoftStep prests<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM, andy butler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutle=
r@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;m sticking with the Little Giant tho&#39;..<br>
&gt; ................the only one with a screensaver<br>
<br>
<br>
He, he... a screensaver - how cool! In the display I guess?<br>
<br>
I bet Keith will develop a free app that runs a random light show on<br>
the SoftStep, percolating the leds in a classic disco light organ<br>
fashion. Will look good on stage pre show - especially if using many<br>
Softsteps in your rig! =A0;-)<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
<br>
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Hey Jim,
How much do you hope to get for it?
Antony

Sent from my iPhone

On 2010-08-25, at 16:31, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

my sound sculpture switchblade is on eBay right now. imo, you won't
find a better routing matrix. it's the ultimate analog patchbay and it
allows instantaneous re-routing!

- jim

On Wednesday, August 25, 2010, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:



So I drew what I was looking for ... HERE>>>
http://img.skitch.com/20100825-g75wenmag8y7q84jtgse9gp1m3.jpg





What box does this? I suppose i just need a new mixer?


you need a mixer with 2 aux sends.

There just aren't any boxes that do all that,
not even ones we can't afford.

Closest is the Behringer Ultralink, or the Rane un-clone of it. ...but I think the Behringer has one more connection.

Otherwise, you could y-split all your signals
into the mixer and ...another small (rack?) mixer like the
Alesis Ultramix line 8 (*not* better than Behringer)
or whatever takes your fancy.


...basically though, from a sound quality and hum avoidance
point of view doing everything with the mixer is best.



mark








      

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Louie Angulo
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> keith sorry if this has been asked,will it be ready to sell by october in
> the U.S.?is either a new behringer or this and after seeing this i dont want
> no more fcb!


My "plan B" is the Little Gordius.
But the Softstep is indeed sexy :-) Especially many of them. As stage
wear... (no, please rewind and erase one sentence!)

Per ;-)

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yes, this is how mine is. the FCB is powered through a midi cable and  
I have a little power supply in my rack.
the FCB yahoo group has docs on how to do it yourself. i found someone  
up there who did it for me.


On Aug 25, 2010, at 1:29 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Louie Angulo wrote:
>
>> on the other hand ive read somewhere that the FCB1010 can be  
>> modified to be phantomed power through the midi cable how true is  
>> that?
>
> This is the "cut the expression pedals off" mod.
> As the psu of the fcb1010 is situated near the pedals
> it works out easier to make it separate.
>
> Of course, you still need a psu that's the right spec,
> just that it now sits in your rack.
>
> andy
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I too was hoping. I don't want to lug my FCB to Switzerland next  
week....along with all the baby gear ;-)


On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Louie Angulo
> <louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> keith sorry if this has been asked,will it be ready to sell by  
>> october in
>> the U.S.?is either a new behringer or this and after seeing this i  
>> dont want
>> no more fcb!
>
>
> My "plan B" is the Little Gordius.
> But the Softstep is indeed sexy :-) Especially many of them. As stage
> wear... (no, please rewind and erase one sentence!)
>
> Per ;-)
>

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What's goin on on Switzerland NeXT week?
Antony Hequet

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On 2010-08-25, at 20:25, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

I too was hoping. I don't want to lug my FCB to Switzerland next week....along with all the baby gear ;-)


On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Louie Angulo
<louie.angulo@googlemail.com> wrote:
keith sorry if this has been asked,will it be ready to sell by october in
the U.S.?is either a new behringer or this and after seeing this i dont want
no more fcb!


My "plan B" is the Little Gordius.
But the Softstep is indeed sexy :-) Especially many of them. As stage
wear... (no, please rewind and erase one sentence!)

Per ;-)





      

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I'm playing in Ilanz on Sept 9 & 10 and in Berne on Sept 12
And enjoying the alps the week before!

On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Antony Hequet wrote:

> What's goin on on Switzerland NeXT week?
> Antony Hequet
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> Sent from my iPhone

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Ted that pickup looks crazy I've never seen anything like it.



-Todd Matthews



On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:29 AM, ditch wrestler wrote:

> =20
> Coming in late here, but Mark Dresser, double-bassist extraordinaire =
and occasional partner of Mr. Frith, has a 2nd pick-up in his bass, =
underneath the nut.
> =20
> That way when he plays behind the string he fingers (I know there's a =
classical term for this technique), the sound will register.  This can =
be heard on his Clean Feed release, Unveil.
> =20
> You can see an early version of this set-up here: =
http://www.mark-dresser.com/disc.html, with the pick-up suspended over =
the strings.  I know he's since used a system where the pick-up is under =
the nut and I believe he runs it through a volume pedal.
> =20
> My bass pick-up can somewhat register that sound when I do that, too, =
but a 2nd p/u would ensure clarity. =20
> =20
> ted h.
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> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
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> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ted that pickup looks crazy I've never seen anything like it.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-Todd Matthews</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:29 AM, ditch wrestler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Coming in late here, but Mark Dresser, double-bassist extraordinaire&nbsp;and occasional partner of Mr. Frith, has a 2nd pick-up in his bass, underneath the nut.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That way when he plays behind the string he fingers (I know there's a classical term for this technique), the sound will register.&nbsp; This can be heard on his Clean Feed release, Unveil.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>You can see an early version of this set-up here: <a href="http://www.mark-dresser.com/disc.html">http://www.mark-dresser.com/disc.html</a>, with the pick-up suspended over the strings.&nbsp; I know he's since used a system where the pick-up is under the nut and&nbsp;I believe he runs it through&nbsp;a volume pedal.</div>
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<div>My bass pick-up can somewhat register that sound when I do that, too, but a 2nd p/u would ensure clarity.&nbsp; <br></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>ted h.</div>
<div><br>Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 8/18/10, Michael Peters <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><br>From: Michael Peters &lt;<a href="mailto:mp@mpeters.de">mp@mpeters.de</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Fred Frith headstock pickup<br>To: <a href="mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>Received: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 12:42 PM<br><br>
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Hmm looks a bit like what I might need... cant quite make it out tho.. does
it mean that the inputs are routed to the outputs 1 to 1 2 to 2 etc.. AND
then there is a separate send type thing.. cos that exactly what I need...

typical behringerm in the manual, they use a circuit diagram to explain what
it does.. OK thanks,

M

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> oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris <
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>>
>> somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can't remember
>> who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it
>>
>> sim
>>
>>
>>


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Hmm looks a bit like what I might need... cant quite make it out tho.. does=
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then there is a separate send type thing.. cos that exactly what I need...<=
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d, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
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Hi folks,

I have a new photo essay, "Improvisation from an Outpost" on Flickr at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157624670849749/

Outpost 186 (http://zeitgeist-outpost.blogspot.com/) is an intimate 
performance space about the size of a large living room located near 
Inman Square in Cambridge, MA. I frequently attend shows and also 
perform video improvisations there. Some of my videos including 
performance excerpts can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld

I recently started bringing my still camera when attending shows at 
the Outpost, and try to take pictures with the improvisational spirit 
that I get from the music. I'm not trying to document the event -- 
just looking for interesting images that I might later use in my 
videos

I have to shoot at slow shutter speeds, and  sometimes deliberately 
push the blurred effect by taking a time exposure and zooming the 
lens during the exposure. I used image processing software on some of 
the images to add after-the-fact improvisation to some of the images.

My thanks go out to all the musicians for the inspiration and 
opportunity to take these images, and to Rob Chalfen for running the 
space. Musicians depicted are free to use these images if they wish.


-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
Video Producer			Image Processing Specialist
Video for your HEAD!			Boris FX
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
> I too was hoping. I don't want to lug my FCB to Switzerland next
> week....along with all the baby gear ;-)


The Gordius HQ is in Belgium, just around the corner from there.
http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-contact.php

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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Hi Michael

Use the Reverbnation player - much better :)

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i'm not 100% sure either, but from what i can gather it's either a mixer or
a splitter, but not both at the same time...i could be wrong though...!

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>wrote:

> Hmm looks a bit like what I might need... cant quite make it out tho.. does
> it mean that the inputs are routed to the outputs 1 to 1 2 to 2 etc.. AND
> then there is a separate send type thing.. cos that exactly what I need...
>
> typical behringerm in the manual, they use a circuit diagram to explain
> what it does.. OK thanks,
>
> M
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Simeon Harris <
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>
>> oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris <
>> simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can't
>>> remember who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it
>>>
>>> sim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
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i&#39;m not 100% sure either, but from what i can gather it&#39;s either a =
mixer or a splitter, but not both at the same time...i could be wrong thoug=
h...!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:16 PM, m=
ark francombe <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.co=
m">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hmm looks a bit l=
ike what I might need... cant quite make it out tho.. does it mean that the=
 inputs are routed to the outputs 1 to 1 2 to 2 etc.. AND then there is a s=
eparate send type thing.. cos that exactly what I need...<br>


<br>typical behringerm in the manual, they use a circuit diagram to explain=
 what it does.. OK thanks,<br><br>M<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On We=
d, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
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glemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">oh yeah, its the =
behringer ultralink pro<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">simeonharris4=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br>somebody make=
s a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i can&#39;t remember who makes=
 it. if it comes to me, i&#39;ll post it<br>



<br>sim<div><div></div><div><br><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark franco=
mbe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">www.markf=
rancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>
twitter @markfrancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com/=
user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no" target=3D"_blank">http://=
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</blockquote></div><br>

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Hey list.

I am a long time Lexicon Jamman user by today.
I like it's
- small size and weight, superior portability
- great sound (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & sexy,  
never harsh or metallic)
- tolerable ground noise
- no limit to minimum loop length (like rc-50's 1.5 seconds)
- instant looping
- very easy & stable midi master/slave operation
- quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly working  
connectors and foot switch after 15 years)

I want to preserve ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware  
looper.

But i might also need
- several synchronous or asynchronous loops running
- ability to store loops and transfer to computer
- pitching (without timestretching algorythms active) in tape mode,  
like in boomerang (or more versatile)
- workable without large midi remote
and eventually
- fade in/out options of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)

Does a device like this exist? What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?

Any help, also offlist, is very appreciated, thank you in advance.

- - -
jayrope
http://www.kliklak.net

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Hello,
try this one
http://logelloop.logellou.com/en/Home.html
Hello from Brittany.
JL
Le 26 ao=FBt 10 =E0 15:46, jayrope LD a =E9crit :

> Hey list.
>
> I am a long time Lexicon Jamman user by today.
> I like it's
> - small size and weight, superior portability
> - great sound (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & =20
> sexy, never harsh or metallic)
> - tolerable ground noise
> - no limit to minimum loop length (like rc-50's 1.5 seconds)
> - instant looping
> - very easy & stable midi master/slave operation
> - quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly working =20
> connectors and foot switch after 15 years)
>
> I want to preserve ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware =20=

> looper.
>
> But i might also need
> - several synchronous or asynchronous loops running
> - ability to store loops and transfer to computer
> - pitching (without timestretching algorythms active) in tape mode, =20=

> like in boomerang (or more versatile)
> - workable without large midi remote
> and eventually
> - fade in/out options of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)
>
> Does a device like this exist? What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?
>
> Any help, also offlist, is very appreciated, thank you in advance.
>
> - - -
> jayrope
> http://www.kliklak.net
>

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Behringer 
Ultralink
mini-review

Main Stereo in, switchable to stereo out.

Then there are 6 channels that either split or mix,
individually switchable, each channel has an in and an out,
a volume control and a pan pot.

So it does do split and mix at the same time.

For each channel:
When in split mode, the pan pot cross fades the main inputs
to the channel out.
When in Mix mode, channel input is panned to main outs, and
goes direct to channel output.

..er..but that's what the diagram shows ;-)
(not a circuit diagram, but a schematic that shows 
  possible routing...overcome the fear and those are
  the easiest/quickest way to find what a mixer can or can't do)

One of these won't do everything that Mark asks in his diagram.

Sound quality is more suitable for live work
than for posh studio.

It's all XLR apart from 2 channnels 0n 1/4 in jack.

I used one for a few years for my loop rig, after couple
of years one pan pot went a bit strange (still usable)
for a while.

andy


Simeon Harris wrote:
> i'm not 100% sure either, but from what i can gather it's either a mixer 
> or a splitter, but not both at the same time...i could be wrong though...!
> 
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:16 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com 
> <mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hmm looks a bit like what I might need... cant quite make it out
>     tho.. does it mean that the inputs are routed to the outputs 1 to 1
>     2 to 2 etc.. AND then there is a separate send type thing.. cos that
>     exactly what I need...
> 
>     typical behringerm in the manual, they use a circuit diagram to
>     explain what it does.. OK thanks,
> 
>     M
> 
>     On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Simeon Harris
>     <simeonharris40@googlemail.com
>     <mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         oh yeah, its the behringer ultralink pro
> 
> 
>         On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Simeon Harris
>         <simeonharris40@googlemail.com
>         <mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>             somebody makes a 1u mixer/splitter that will do both, but i
>             can't remember who makes it. if it comes to me, i'll post it
> 
>             sim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     mark francombe
>     www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
>     www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com>
>     twitter @markfrancombe
>     http://vimeo.com/user825094
>     http://www.looop.no
> 
> 

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There's a good question. Haven't heard a peep about it in a long time, 
and there's nothing on the Looperlative site.

Even odder, all of the forum topics on the Looperlative site have been 
removed except "Looping Gigs" and "Anything Looping". I used to check in 
occasionally to see what new features had been added to the LP-1, but 
there's nowhere to find that stuff anymore.

Anything to share, Bob?

Daryl Shawn
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com


> What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?

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Still on the way.  I hit some snags but I am working hard on the lp1,  
lp2 and a secret project.

--Bob Amstadt

On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Daryl Shawn <darylshawn@gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a good question. Haven't heard a peep about it in a long  
> time, and there's nothing on the Looperlative site.
>
> Even odder, all of the forum topics on the Looperlative site have  
> been removed except "Looping Gigs" and "Anything Looping". I used to  
> check in occasionally to see what new features had been added to the  
> LP-1, but there's nowhere to find that stuff anymore.
>
> Anything to share, Bob?
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>> What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?
>
>

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Daryl Shawn wrote:
> There's a good question. Haven't heard a peep about it in a long time, 
> and there's nothing on the Looperlative site.



> 
> Even odder, all of the forum topics on the Looperlative site have been 
> removed except "Looping Gigs" and "Anything Looping". I used to check in 
> occasionally to see what new features had been added to the LP-1, but 
> there's nowhere to find that stuff anymore.

There is if you sign in ;-)
It's same as it always was.

> 
> Anything to share, Bob?
> 
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> 
> 
>> What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?
> 
> 

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Cool - thanks for the update, Bob!

Mmm, secret project...

Daryl Shawn
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> Still on the way.  I hit some snags but I am working hard on the lp1, 
> lp2 and a secret project.
>
> --Bob Amstadt

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Oh....oops! I guess I never noticed that I was automagically logged in 
before.

Thanks Andy!

doot dee doo...

Daryl Shawn
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>> Even odder, all of the forum topics on the Looperlative site have 
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>> check in occasionally to see what new features had been added to the 
>> LP-1, but there's nowhere to find that stuff anymore.
>
> There is if you sign in ;-)
> It's same as it always was.

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> Behringer Ultralink
> mini-review
>

Thanks Andy!

So it does do split and mix at the same time.
>

HURRAH !

>
> For each channel:
> When in split mode, the pan pot cross fades the main inputs
> to the channel out.
>

OK get that... but...

When in Mix mode, channel input is panned to main outs, and
> goes direct to channel output.
>

When you say "panned" you dont mean in a *left to right* sense, more in a *
sent* sense?

>
> ..er..but that's what the diagram shows ;-)
> (not a circuit diagram, but a schematic that shows  possible
> routing...overcome the fear and those are
>  the easiest/quickest way to find what a mixer can or can't do)
>

heh heh.. sorry us dyslexics soon start seeing wires where there arent and
switches switching nothing... I know its not a "circuit diagram" but it aint
a "flow diagram" either... its a bit of a mix. And for those that dont work
in electronics, it still can be a bit of a head fuck...


> One of these won't do everything that Mark asks in his diagram.
>


See.. I dont iunderstand that, why not.. it looks pretty good to me (except
perhaps that I really need few more channels)
BTW, what happens to the stereo channel? Are the 6 monos really the only one
I can use, or does the stereo chan have the same functionality, except in...
er stereo.. derrr!

>
> Sound quality is more suitable for live work
> than for posh studio.
>

meaning its hissy? hummy, or distorty?
or the specs say so?  to the oscilloscope might show something?



>
> It's all XLR apart from 2 channnels 0n 1/4 in jack.
>

Hmm thats annoying but ok, just have to spend an evening soldering...


> I used one for a few years for my loop rig, after couple
> of years one pan pot went a bit strange (still usable)
> for a while.
>

so what replaced it?



>
> andy
>


Cheers Andy, I can always rely on a good result from you, and thnks Simeon
for suggestion.. Im gonna go and have a look at that...


Im in the middle of building 2 new rigs.. and stompbox/laptop rig for Y2KX
and a stompbox/looper rack for a new band Im putting together. I really
didnt get on with the Fireworx as a guitar effects, and its frankely a
relief to get the old pedals out again, but that leaves a redundant
Fireworx.. which made me think,
<cue wobbly picture as flashback happens>
*"If only I could have the Fireworx as on the send on the mixer instead of
wasting that good send for the loopers.. now I wonder..."*
fade to white

hence all my splitter questions..

Im dreaming that Bobs secret project is a hardware 1 U mixer designed for
loopers, with a mute and a group send per channel as well as 2 effect
sends...


Mark


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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 PM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">

Behringer Ultralink<br>
mini-review<br></blockquote><div><br>Thanks Andy! <br><br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px=
 solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
So it does do split and mix at the same time.<br></blockquote><div><br>HURR=
AH !<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
For each channel:<br>
When in split mode, the pan pot cross fades the main inputs<br>
to the channel out.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK get that... but...<br><br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
When in Mix mode, channel input is panned to main outs, and<br>
goes direct to channel output.<br></blockquote><div><br>When you say &quot;=
panned&quot; you dont mean in a <i>left to right</i> sense, more in a <i>se=
nt</i> sense? <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left:=
 1ex;">


<br>
..er..but that&#39;s what the diagram shows ;-)<br>
(not a circuit diagram, but a schematic that shows =A0possible routing...ov=
ercome the fear and those are<br>
=A0the easiest/quickest way to find what a mixer can or can&#39;t do)<br></=
blockquote><div><br>heh heh.. sorry us dyslexics soon start seeing wires wh=
ere there arent and switches switching nothing... I know its not a &quot;ci=
rcuit diagram&quot; but it aint a &quot;flow diagram&quot; either... its a =
bit of a mix. And for those that dont work in electronics, it still can be =
a bit of a head fuck...<br>

<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
One of these won&#39;t do everything that Mark asks in his diagram.<br></bl=
ockquote><div><br><br>See.. I dont iunderstand that, why not.. it looks pre=
tty good to me (except perhaps that I really need few more channels)<br>

BTW, what happens to the stereo channel? Are the 6 monos really the only on=
e I can use, or does the stereo chan have the same functionality, except in=
... er stereo.. derrr!<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">


<br>
Sound quality is more suitable for live work<br>
than for posh studio.<br></blockquote><div><br>meaning its hissy? hummy, or=
 distorty?<br>or the specs say so?=A0 to the oscilloscope might show someth=
ing?<br><br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1e=
x;">


<br>
It&#39;s all XLR apart from 2 channnels 0n 1/4 in jack.<br></blockquote><di=
v><br>Hmm thats annoying but ok, just have to spend an evening soldering...=
<br>=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">


I used one for a few years for my loop rig, after couple<br>
of years one pan pot went a bit strange (still usable)<br>
for a while.=A0<br></blockquote><div><br>so what replaced it?<br><br>=A0</d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; bo=
rder-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
andy<br></blockquote><div><br><br>Cheers Andy, I can always rely on a good =
result from you, and thnks Simeon for suggestion.. Im gonna go and have a l=
ook at that...<br><br><br>Im in the middle of building 2 new rigs.. and sto=
mpbox/laptop rig for Y2KX and a stompbox/looper rack for a new band Im putt=
ing together. I really didnt get on with the Fireworx as a guitar effects, =
and its frankely a relief to get the old pedals out again, but that leaves =
a redundant Fireworx.. which made me think, <br>

&lt;cue wobbly picture as flashback happens&gt;<br><b>&quot;If only I could=
 have the Fireworx as on the send on the mixer instead of wasting that good=
 send for the loopers.. now I wonder...&quot;</b> <br>fade to white<br>

<br>hence all my splitter questions.. <br><br>Im dreaming that Bobs secret =
project is a hardware 1 U mixer designed for loopers, with a mute and a gro=
up send per channel as well as 2 effect sends... <br><br><br>Mark<br>=A0 <b=
r>

<br></div></div>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancomb=
e.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">w=
ww.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.=
com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>

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mark francombe wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:26 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk 
> <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
>     Behringer Ultralink
>     mini-review
>   it does do split and mix at the same time.
> > 
> HURRAH !
> > 
>     For each channel:
>     When in split mode, the pan pot cross fades the main inputs
>     to the channel out.
> 
> 
> OK get that... but...
> 
>     When in Mix mode, channel input is panned to main outs, and
>     goes direct to channel output.
> 
> 
> When you say "panned" you dont mean in a /left to right/ sense, more in 
> a /sent/ sense?

If you treat the 2 main outputs as stereo, then they are pan pots.
Of course, you're not obliged to do that.

> 
>     One of these won't do everything that Mark asks in his diagram.
> 
> 
> 
> See.. I dont iunderstand that, why not.. it looks pretty good to me 
> (except perhaps that I really need few more channels)

that's it, you have 8 inputs and want to split them all.


> BTW, what happens to the stereo channel? Are the 6 monos really the only 
> one I can use, or does the stereo chan have the same functionality, 
> except in... er stereo.. derrr!

ok, so you've used up your 6 mono inputs, they get sent to the stereo output
which goes to your loopers, and the direct outs for each channel go to the 
mixer.
with everything in mixer mode, the stereo in can only be switched to the loopers,
there's output to take it to the mixer.

> 
> 
>     Sound quality is more suitable for live work
>     than for posh studio.
> 
> 
> meaning its hissy? hummy, or distorty?
> or the specs say so?  to the oscilloscope might show something?

As it's only 1:1 gain, there's no noise problem even with the cheap chips.
Specs are probably great, but of course specs aren't everything.
If you were a fanatic, you'd be looking to upgrade the chips
to get all those somewhat subjective hi-fi things like clarity and detail.


>     I used one for a few years for my loop rig, after couple
>     of years one pan pot went a bit strange (still usable)
>     for a while. 
> 
> 
> so what replaced it?

the Alesis Ultramix Line 8,
because it has 8 stereo ch, a stereo send 
and a mic-pre.
I had to mod it to get the routing I wanted,
and I'm not overjoyed with it's nothing special
sound quality and magical ability
to summon hum.



> Im in the middle of building 2 new rigs.. and stompbox/laptop rig for 
> Y2KX and a stompbox/looper rack for a new band Im putting together. I 
> really didnt get on with the Fireworx as a guitar effects, and its 
> frankely a relief to get the old pedals out again, but that leaves a 
> redundant Fireworx.. which made me think,
> <cue wobbly picture as flashback happens>
> *"If only I could have the Fireworx as on the send on the mixer instead 
> of wasting that good send for the loopers.. now I wonder..."*
> fade to white
> 
> hence all my splitter questions..

Try a Y-cable from the aux send to the Fireworx and loopers.

That way, as long as you're not recording or overdubbing 
you can  post process the loops.


My routing is 
Input channels modded to only go to Send, not to main bus
(very easy mod indeed, except I made it switchable which was a pain)
Stereo Aux send >>>Vortex 
Vortex via 3 way splits to mixer channel and to loopers.
loopers are 100% wet and come back on mixer channels.

I don't use that for resampling or post process usually,
but easily can if I want.

> 
> Im dreaming that Bobs secret project is a hardware 1 U mixer designed 
> for loopers, with a mute and a group send per channel as well as 2 
> effect sends...

If we're going to dream
the fx sends have to be capable of going pre-fade too.


andy

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In response to this UsIt is doing a little fundraiser. We have sent $40.00
in donation so far from our "pay what you like" digital download
"Approaching", recorded live via Ninjam. I posted this on Facebook and will
be promoting it further. It isn't a lot but we do care. Gaetano and I will
meet for the first time in real life when we play the fest! Thanks Rick and
all who are involved in this massive undertaking of love!! Info below.

Jeff

from my post to Facebook:

"UsIt" (Gaetano Fontanazza and Jeff Duke)
http://usit.bandcamp.com/album/approaching
will be appearing at the Y2K10 International Live Looping Festival
http://www.y2kloopfest.com/ in October. To help support (in our small way)
this wonderful event all proceeds from any sales of our (pay what you like) 
digital release
"Approaching" ($40.00 so far!)... will be donated to the festival! You can
also donate directly at the festival web site. Be sure to go by our site and
get a free copy of the album anyway :), in these recessionary times they
really need help y'all!



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> Hi everyone,
>
> So far, donations for this year's Y2K-X festival are running a little 
> under
> 25% from previous years.
>
> The festival this year is going to be close to twice as large.
>
> This has been a tough recessionary year and I know things are really 
> tight.
>
> So,  it is not lightly that I ask if you could consider donating some 
> funds
> to help the festival come off.
>
> The price of admission doesn't come close to covering all of my costs
> and so many people are coming this year that we're going to have a hard
> time raising very much money at the door.
>
> If you have anything to give,  it will cover the costs of sleeping bags, 
> transportation
> and many incidental costs.
>
> My paypal account is         looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot sign)com
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> yours,   Rick Walker
> 

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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:15 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> Try a Y-cable from the aux send to the Fireworx and loopers.
>
> That way, as long as you're not recording or overdubbing you can  post
> process the loops.
>

Not completely stupid .. that... infact... I... think... it might be
rather... er... clever...  have to think a bit, but maybe you just saved me
79 squid!

m

-- 
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:15 PM, andy butle=
r <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@=
tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
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<div id=3D":us">Try a Y-cable from the aux send to the Fireworx and loopers=
.<br>
<br>
That way, as long as you&#39;re not recording or overdubbing you can =A0pos=
t process the loops.</div></blockquote><div><br>Not completely stupid .. th=
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 to think a bit, but maybe you just saved me 79 squid!<br>

<br>m<br></div></div><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href=3D"http://www.mar=
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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the
month-long Special Focus on computerchemist.  The Featured CD at
Midnight will be "aqual measure" by computerchemist on terrainflight
Records.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug

You will also hear music from the new album from Rudy Adrian and one of
the latest releases from Groove Unlimited.  You will also hear music by
Modulator ESP who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on
Sunday, September 5.  More details are below.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.

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Storia: play + rec + fx + mix @ realtime.
www.myspace.com/storiaonline


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:

> GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
> =======================================================================
> Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the
> month-long Special Focus on computerchemist.  The Featured CD at
> Midnight will be "aqual measure" by computerchemist on terrainflight
> Records.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
> http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug
>
> You will also hear music from the new album from Rudy Adrian and one of
> the latest releases from Groove Unlimited.  You will also hear music by
> Modulator ESP who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on
> Sunday, September 5.  More details are below.
>
> Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
> airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
> Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
> and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
> FM.  Listen at http://wdiy.org/listen on the internet.
>
>

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Storia: play + rec + fx + mix @ realtime.<div><a href=3D"http://www.myspace=
.com/storiaonline">www.myspace.com/storiaonline</a></div><div><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Bill Fox <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us">billyfox@soundscape=
s.us</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://galactictravels.info" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://galactictravels.info</a><br>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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Tonight at 11 pm EDT/GMT-4 on Galactic Travels, I&#39;ll conclude the<br>
month-long Special Focus on computerchemist. =A0The Featured CD at<br>
Midnight will be &quot;aqual measure&quot; by computerchemist on terrainfli=
ght<br>
Records. =A0For details, see the Special Focus page at:<br>
<a href=3D"http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2010/focus.html#aug</a><=
br>
<br>
You will also hear music from the new album from Rudy Adrian and one of<br>
the latest releases from Groove Unlimited. =A0You will also hear music by<b=
r>
Modulator ESP who will play at the Soundscapes Concert Series on<br>
Sunday, September 5. =A0More details are below.<br>
<br>
Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that<br>
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and<br>
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville<br>
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1<br>
FM. =A0Listen at <a href=3D"http://wdiy.org/listen" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//wdiy.org/listen</a> on the internet.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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Isn't this a software looper?=0AAntony Hequet=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=
=0AOn 2010-08-26, at 16:22, Jean-Luc THOMAS <thomas.jeanluc@gmail.com> wrot=
e:=0A=0AHello,=0Atry this one=0Ahttp://logelloop.logellou.com/en/Home.html=
=0AHello from Brittany.=0AJL=0ALe 26 ao=FBt 10 =E0 15:46, jayrope LD a =E9c=
rit :=0A=0AHey list.=0A=0AI am a long time Lexicon Jamman user by today.=0A=
I like it's=0A- small size and weight, superior portability=0A- great sound=
 (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & sexy, never harsh or me=
tallic)=0A- tolerable ground noise=0A- no limit to minimum loop length (lik=
e rc-50's 1.5 seconds)=0A- instant looping=0A- very easy & stable midi mast=
er/slave operation=0A- quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly=
 working connectors and foot switch after 15 years)=0A=0AI want to preserve=
 ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware looper.=0A=0ABut i might=
 also need=0A- several synchronous or asynchronous loops running=0A- abilit=
y to store loops and transfer to computer=0A- pitching (without timestretch=
ing algorythms active) in tape mode, like in boomerang (or more versatile)=
=0A- workable without large midi remote=0Aand eventually=0A- fade in/out op=
tions of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)=0A=0ADoes a device like thi=
s exist? What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?=0A=0AAny help, also offlist,=
 is very appreciated, thank you in advance.=0A=0A- - -=0Ajayrope=0Ahttp://w=
ww.kliklak.net=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A      

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Yes, but after few years with RC 20/RC50 I use this one at home and on =20=

stage and, in fact, you have all you mentionned in your mail:
> - small size and weight, superior portability
labtop and soundcard
> - great sound (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & =20
> sexy, never harsh or metallic)
The sound in great, in play accoustic music, and if you use a good =20
mic, The sound has nothing common that RC....
> - tolerable ground noise
No ground noise
> - no limit to minimum loop length (like rc-50's 1.5 seconds)
no limit
> - instant looping
instant looping
> - very easy & stable midi master/slave operation
it works
> - quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly working =20
> connectors and foot switch after 15 years)
depends of your computer, works olny on Apple
>
> I want to preserve ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware =20=

> looper.
>
> But i might also need
> - several synchronous or asynchronous loops running
possible, with a great macro-system you can decide when and how it'll =20=

be synchro or asynchro
> - ability to store loops and transfer to computer
You can store, you can play audio files loop audio files, put =20
treatment on the files
> - pitching (without timestretching algorythms active) in tape mode, =20=

> like in boomerang (or more versatile)
You can pitch or stretch or modify speed on each loop and also pitch =20
and stretch and modify speed.
> - workable without large midi remote
It works with standard midi remote, wii remote, you decide in the =20
preferences what are the functions you want to use.
> and eventually
> - fade in/out options of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)
You can fade in/out, mute in/out with no troubles, with the macro you =20=

can fade some loops while others are still playing.
You can download a demo from the site, it's 30mn, but you can re-=20
download as much as you need.
Good loop!
JL


Le 27 ao=FBt 10 =E0 07:31, Antony Hequet a =E9crit :

> Isn't this a software looper?
> Antony Hequet
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-08-26, at 16:22, Jean-Luc THOMAS <thomas.jeanluc@gmail.com> =20=

> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> try this one
> http://logelloop.logellou.com/en/Home.html
> Hello from Brittany.
> JL
> Le 26 ao=FBt 10 =E0 15:46, jayrope LD a =E9crit :
>
> Hey list.
>
> I am a long time Lexicon Jamman user by today.
> I like it's
> - small size and weight, superior portability
> - great sound (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & =20
> sexy, never harsh or metallic)
> - tolerable ground noise
> - no limit to minimum loop length (like rc-50's 1.5 seconds)
> - instant looping
> - very easy & stable midi master/slave operation
> - quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly working =20
> connectors and foot switch after 15 years)
>
> I want to preserve ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware =20=

> looper.
>
> But i might also need
> - several synchronous or asynchronous loops running
> - ability to store loops and transfer to computer
> - pitching (without timestretching algorythms active) in tape mode, =20=

> like in boomerang (or more versatile)
> - workable without large midi remote
> and eventually
> - fade in/out options of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)
>
> Does a device like this exist? What's up with the Looperlative LP-2?
>
> Any help, also offlist, is very appreciated, thank you in advance.
>
> - - -
> jayrope
> http://www.kliklak.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Antony Hequet <antonyhequet@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Isn't this a software looper?
> Antony Hequet
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> Sent from my iPhone


Yes, Logeloop is indeed a Mac application.  ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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> Use the Reverbnation player - much better :)  
 
problem is that I can't listen to music from any myspace page - they all
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> Use the Reverbnation player - much better :) =20

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>  
> problem is that I can't listen to music from any myspace page - they all 
> don't display the player now
>  
> -Michael
>  

Works fine here, if it's not fixed with you by now
I'd guess a browser problem.

andy

> 
>  > Use the Reverbnation player - much better :)  

yawn
;-)

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jayrope LD schrieb:
> Hey list.
> I am a long time Lexicon Jamman user by today.
> I want to preserve ALL of those features, when thinking new hardware 
> looper.
And about the same time, Tom Swirley said:
"It is a sad day but I have decided that it's a bad idea to hang onto 
gear that I don't use..."
Check against requirements:
- small size and weight, superior portability
        a very short, but nevertheless 2HU rack unit, but can sit on the 
table as well  
- great sound (despite 12bit) in high volume situations (round & sexy, 
never harsh or metallic)
- tolerable ground noise
       depends - some of the Repeaters have a noise issue, others don't.
- no limit to minimum loop length (like rc-50's 1.5 seconds)
       no problem with OS2
- instant looping
       check
- very easy & stable midi master/slave operation
       ok with OS2
- quality of components (no dust crackling, flawlessly working 
connectors and foot switch after 15 years)
       don't know, it doesn't exist for 15 years...

But i might also need
- several synchronous or asynchronous loops running
       only 4 synchronous ones
- ability to store loops and transfer to computer
       yes
- pitching (without timestretching algorythms active) in tape mode, like 
in boomerang (or more versatile)
       both works (with and without timestretching)
- workable without large midi remote
       yes
- fade in/out options of already recorded phrases (as in rc-50)
       no


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THOUGHT RADIO:                       http://soundscapes.us/thoughtradio
=======================================================================
My next stint on Thought Radio, the Saturday edition of The AM/FM Show,
will be Saturday, August 28 at 6 am EDT/GMT-4.  I will continue the
special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase
One.

You will also hear the latest releases from Groove Unlimited Records as
well as music by Modulator ESP who will be playing at the Soundscapes
Concert Series on Sunday, September 5.

I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show
features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an
eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive
Rock.

Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at
http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/stream.html

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Hi everyone,

join me today for another round of the MoinSound Studio Sessions - the 
place where things happen which you can't do with a Boss looper ;).

Link to the Gig: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
Time/Date Link: http://bit.ly/bE2sFM (timeanddate.com)

I guess I'll be doing piano stuff today, but I may still change my mind 
at the last minute.

Hope to see you there - say hello, have a drink and enjoy!

Yours,

          Rainer

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Rainer I'm very sorry I missed your feed today, just too many things.  I'll
catch the archive. Digitsignal performing tomorrowing.

Jim

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.co=
m
> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> join me today for another round of the MoinSound Studio Sessions - the
> place where things happen which you can't do with a Boss looper ;).
>
> Link to the Gig:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
> Time/Date Link: http://bit.ly/bE2sFM (timeanddate.com)
>
> I guess I'll be doing piano stuff today, but I may still change my mind a=
t
> the last minute.
>
> Hope to see you there - say hello, have a drink and enjoy!
>
> Yours,
>
>         Rainer
>
> --
> http://moinlabs.de
> Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/moinlabs
>
>


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>From Brooklyn To Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &
Peter Th=F6rn.  Proceeds
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Rainer I&#39;m very sorry I missed your feed today, just too many things.=
=A0 I&#39;ll catch the archive. Digitsignal performing tomorrowing.<br><br>=
Jim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Rain=
er Straschill <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.=
com">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
join me today for another round of the MoinSound Studio Sessions - the plac=
e where things happen which you can&#39;t do with a Boss looper ;).<br>
<br>
Link to the Gig: <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Stu=
dio-Sessions" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound=
-Studio-Sessions</a><br>
Time/Date Link: <a href=3D"http://bit.ly/bE2sFM" target=3D"_blank">http://b=
it.ly/bE2sFM</a> (<a href=3D"http://timeanddate.com" target=3D"_blank">time=
anddate.com</a>)<br>
<br>
I guess I&#39;ll be doing piano stuff today, but I may still change my mind=
 at the last minute.<br>
<br>
Hope to see you there - say hello, have a drink and enjoy!<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
-- <br>
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ank">http://twitter.com/moinlabs</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>From Brooklyn To=
 Glindran, a new World/Free Jazz recording by Jim Goodin &amp; Peter Th=F6r=
n.=A0 Proceeds<br>from the sale of this CD will benefit JDRF International.=
=A0 <a href=3D"http://jimgoodinpeterthorn.bandcamp.com">jimgoodinpeterthorn=
.bandcamp.com</a>.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br=
><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</=
a><br><a href=3D"http://woodandwiremusic.wordpress.com">woodandwiremusic.wo=
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Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or
tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..

Mark.

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Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..<br><br>Mark.<br clear="all"><br>

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I have been SUPER into my new Eventide TimeFactor. Sounds great and con do tape like pitch shifting in set intervals, sus-style overdub as replace or additive, etc. Delays have a hold function, looper has ways to mangle.and such- expensive but fun.
C
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tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..

Mark.

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 Hello,
EHX Cathedral or Stereo Memory Man

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: mark francombe
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  Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200

  Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or
  tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
  floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..

  Mark.

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Subject: stompbox reverbs?<BR>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200<BR>
<BR>

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cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the floorboard... sm=
all foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..<BR><BR>Mark.<BR clear=3D"all"><BR>

-- <BR>mark francombe<BR><A href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markf=
rancombe.com</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.co=
m</A><BR>twitter @markfrancombe<BR><A href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">=
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<A href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</A><BR>

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<PRE>Mark Showalter
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The best one I've had in my hands so far is the Holy Grail from Electro =
Harmonix. It has a great character and cuts like a knife and it's =
small...

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On 29 08 2010, at 2:32 AM, Mark Showalter wrote:

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> EHX Cathedral or Stereo Memory Man
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> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200
>=20
> Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or =
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>=20
> Mark.
>=20

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I am completely loving my Strymon effects.

I have the Bluesky (killer reverb with shimmer) and Brigadier (excellent del=
ay)

Check them out on their site. I'm getting El Capistan as soon as they go on s=
ale in Japan.



Sent from my iPhone

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> Mark.
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I am completely loving my Strymon effects.</div><div><br></div><div>I have the Bluesky (killer reverb with shimmer) and Brigadier (excellent delay)</div><div><br></div><div>Check them out on their site. I'm getting El Capistan as soon as they go on sale in Japan.</div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:32 AM, "Mark Showalter" &lt;<a href="mailto:folkstone57@operamail.com">folkstone57@operamail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>EHX Cathedral or Stereo Memory Man<br>
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To: loopers-delight <loopers-delight @loopers-delight.com=""><br>
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200<br>
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Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..<br><br>Mark.<br clear="all"><br>

-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com"><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a></a><br><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com"><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a></a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br><a href="http://vimeo.com/user825094"><a href="http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a></a><br>

<a href="http://www.looop.no"><a href="http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a></a><br>

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Minden Jot!

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I am sure there are lots of alternatives, but I rather like the Line 6  
Verzilla a lot.

On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:23 PM, mark francombe wrote:

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>
> Mark.
>
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> mark francombe
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> twitter @markfrancombe
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I haven't tried many but I love my Digitech Hardwire RV-7 stereo digital 
reverb. Small and sounds good to my ears. I really use the reverse reverb in 
it quite a bit also.

j


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>I am sure there are lots of alternatives, but I rather like the Line 6 
>Verzilla a lot.
>
> On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:23 PM, mark francombe wrote:
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>> Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or 
>> tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the 
>> floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>> -- 
>> mark francombe
>> www.markfrancombe.com
>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>> twitter @markfrancombe
>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>> http://www.looop.no
> 

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You might want to wait on the Eventide VerbFactor. Of course, it could  
still be a long wait. Hard telling.

Solemate is a great reverb, although it may be a bit too big for your  
board.

On Aug 28, 2010, at 7:23 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or  
> tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the  
> floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
>
> Mark.
>
> -- 
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no


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right on Zoe thats not too far from where i live maybe ill come check you
out!

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> I'm playing in Ilanz on Sept 9 & 10 and in Berne on Sept 12
> And enjoying the alps the week before!
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Antony Hequet wrote:
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>  What's goin on on Switzerland NeXT week?
>> Antony Hequet
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ut!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Zoe=
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And enjoying the alps the week before!<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br=
>
<br>
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What&#39;s goin on on Switzerland NeXT week?<br>
Antony Hequet<br>
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I was delighted that loop festivals now show up even in my neighbourhood
(well, in Cologne) independent of me (I organized the first loopfestival in
Cologne 2 years ago) and apparently independent of this list. Thanks to
Christo Jota who posted this date here, I went to the loopsoup festival
yesterday and quite liked it.
http://www.con-area.de/LS1/loopsoup1.htm
The evening had 5 solo acts all of which did very different and interesting
kinds of music. I must say that it inspired me so much that I'm now thinking
of organizing the 2nd festival in Cologne next spring.

-Michael

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Hello Loopers!

Loopers are very welcome at this event:

On The 18 and 19th of Sept we will be hold a Ustream/web streamed  
festival at http://cafenoodle.ning.com with donations in aid of the  
MS Society.

If you are unsure on how to do a gig via ustream you can find some  
useful info here:

http://www.liveunsigned.com/blog/category/ustreams/

You don't have to use ustream - as long as you can provide the embed  
code thats great!

If you would like to perform at the festival please let me know this  
week, I would like to confirm the line up by next weekend. Please  
email me at mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com to confirm you want to  
play. I will be doing lots of promo for this in the coming weeks.

Thanks in advance


Matt Stevens
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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:23 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> stomp box reverb

The guitarists of Explosions In The Sky told me they both use a Boss
RV3. Not manufactured anymore but of course available second hand.
They got recommended the RV3 by Josh Pearson of Lift To Experience
("the RV3 teases the angels to start singing"). Anyone that knows
these bands/musicians knows what this box sounds like.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub

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just to add - if you'd like to submit a video, but don't have a camcorder,
but you do have a mac with iSight, then you can use Quicktime Broadcaster to
record a video to disk
check vimeo for the best settings to use. here's the link -
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL764

sim

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Matt Stevens <
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hello Loopers!
>
> Loopers are very welcome at this event:
>
> On The 18 and 19th of Sept we will be hold a Ustream/web streamed festival
> at http://cafenoodle.ning.com with donations in aid of the MS Society.
>
> If you are unsure on how to do a gig via ustream you can find some useful
> info here:
>
> http://www.liveunsigned.com/blog/category/ustreams/
>
> You don't have to use ustream - as long as you can provide the embed code
> thats great!
>
> If you would like to perform at the festival please let me know this week,
> I would like to confirm the line up by next weekend. Please email me at
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com to confirm you want to play. I will be
> doing lots of promo for this in the coming weeks.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Matt Stevens
> www.mattstevensguitar.com
> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com
>
>
>
>
>

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just to add - if you&#39;d like to submit a video, but don&#39;t have a cam=
corder, but you do have a mac with iSight, then you can use Quicktime Broad=
caster to record a video to disk<br>check vimeo for the best settings to us=
e. here&#39;s the link - <a href=3D"http://support.apple.com/kb/DL764">http=
://support.apple.com/kb/DL764</a><br>
<br>sim<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM,=
 Matt Stevens <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@bti=
nternet.com">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
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<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">
Hello Loopers!<div><br></div><div>Loopers are very welcome at this event:<b=
r> <br> On The 18 and 19th of Sept we will be hold a Ustream/web streamed f=
estival at <a href=3D"http://cafenoodle.ning.com" target=3D"_blank">http://=
cafenoodle.ning.com</a> with donations in aid of the MS Society.<br>
 <br> If you are unsure on how to do a gig via ustream you can find some us=
eful info here:<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.liveunsigned.com/blog/catego=
ry/ustreams/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.liveunsigned.com/blog/category/u=
streams/</a><br>
 <br> You don&#39;t have to use ustream - as long as you can provide the em=
bed code thats great!<br> <br> If you would like to perform at the festival=
 please let me know this week, I would like to confirm the line up by next =
weekend. Please email me at <a href=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.=
com" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com</a> to confirm you =
want to play. I will be doing lots of promo for this in the coming weeks.<b=
r>
 <br> Thanks in advance<br><br></div><div><br><div> <span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12px;"><div>Matt Stevens</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.mattstevensguit=
ar.com" target=3D"_blank">www.mattstevensguitar.com</a></div><div><a href=
=3D"mailto:mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank">mattstevensg=
uitar@btinternet.com</a></div>
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Thanks for all these recomendations..

@Cnovey Time factor looks good, but yes too pricey for now... maybe later
tho...
@Reyn I was interested in the EH.. but of course the cathedral
@mark looks like the bollocks, not sure if I can afford that tho...
that Strymon looks lovely!! @Toejam But unfortunately sold out from the
website... i might have stumped for that one...

and Per... is this thing about the Boss RV3 that they've gone and done what
Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and
available in my local boutique..
Often people moan about Boss making later versions WORSE.. Im not so sure, I
have 2 Boss pitch shifters... the PS3 and the PS5. The former has more
features in a way, 2 notes possible, + delay, plus chorus, but the PS5
sounds.. fantastic... extremely musical with (slightly) intelligent
pitching..
So Im wondering about the RV5..

Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?

mcf





On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:23 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> wrote:
> > stomp box reverb
>
> The guitarists of Explosions In The Sky told me they both use a Boss
> RV3. Not manufactured anymore but of course available second hand.
> They got recommended the RV3 by Josh Pearson of Lift To Experience
> ("the RV3 teases the angels to start singing"). Anyone that knows
> these bands/musicians knows what this box sounds like.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>
>


-- 
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www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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Thanks for all these recomendations.. <br><br>@Cnovey Time factor looks goo=
d, but yes too pricey for now... maybe later tho...<br>@Reyn I was interest=
ed in the EH.. but of course the cathedral <br>@mark looks like the bollock=
s, not sure if I can afford that tho...<br>

that Strymon looks lovely!! @Toejam But unfortunately sold out from the web=
site... i might have stumped for that one...<br><br>and Per... is this thin=
g about the Boss RV3 that they&#39;ve gone and done what Boss usually do an=
d released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and available in my lo=
cal boutique.. <br>

Often people moan about Boss making later versions WORSE.. Im not so sure, =
I have 2 Boss pitch shifters... the PS3 and the PS5. The former has more fe=
atures in a way, 2 notes possible, + delay, plus chorus, but the PS5 sounds=
.. fantastic... extremely musical with (slightly) intelligent pitching..<br=
>

So Im wondering about the RV5..<br><br>Or.. was the rumour you heard that t=
he RV3 was... &quot;godlike&quot;?<br><br>mcf <br><br><br><br><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On Sun, Aug 29, 2=
010 at 2:23 AM, mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com=
">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; stomp box reverb<br>
<br>
The guitarists of Explosions In The Sky told me they both use a Boss<br>
RV3. Not manufactured anymore but of course available second hand.<br>
They got recommended the RV3 by Josh Pearson of Lift To Experience<br>
(&quot;the RV3 teases the angels to start singing&quot;). Anyone that knows=
<br>
these bands/musicians knows what this box sounds like.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.looproom.com" target=3D"_blank">www.looproom.com</a> =
internet music hub<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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The blueSky is a new pedal and should be available:

http://www.strymon.net/products/bluesky/



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> Thanks for all these recomendations..=20
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> @Cnovey Time factor looks good, but yes too pricey for now... maybe later t=
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> that Strymon looks lovely!! @Toejam But unfortunately sold out from the we=
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t Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and=
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> Often people moan about Boss making later versions WORSE.. Im not so sure,=
 I have 2 Boss pitch shifters... the PS3 and the PS5. The former has more fe=
atures in a way, 2 notes possible, + delay, plus chorus, but the PS5 sounds.=
. fantastic... extremely musical with (slightly) intelligent pitching..
> So Im wondering about the RV5..
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> Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?
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> mcf=20
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>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:23 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
> > stomp box reverb
>=20
> The guitarists of Explosions In The Sky told me they both use a Boss
> RV3. Not manufactured anymore but of course available second hand.
> They got recommended the RV3 by Josh Pearson of Lift To Experience
> ("the RV3 teases the angels to start singing"). Anyone that knows
> these bands/musicians knows what this box sounds like.
>=20
> Greetings from Sweden
>=20
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
> www.looproom.com internet music hub
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no

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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>The blueSky is a new pedal and should be available:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.strymon.net/products/bluesky/">http://www.strymon.net/products/bluesky/</a></div><div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from &nbsp;iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:39 PM, mark francombe &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Thanks for all these recomendations.. <br><br>@Cnovey Time factor looks good, but yes too pricey for now... maybe later tho...<br>@Reyn I was interested in the EH.. but of course the cathedral <br>@mark looks like the bollocks, not sure if I can afford that tho...<br>

that Strymon looks lovely!! @Toejam But unfortunately sold out from the website... i might have stumped for that one...<br><br>and Per... is this thing about the Boss RV3 that they've gone and done what Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and available in my local boutique.. <br>

Often people moan about Boss making later versions WORSE.. Im not so sure, I have 2 Boss pitch shifters... the PS3 and the PS5. The former has more features in a way, 2 notes possible, + delay, plus chorus, but the PS5 sounds.. fantastic... extremely musical with (slightly) intelligent pitching..<br>

So Im wondering about the RV5..<br><br>Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?<br><br>mcf <br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Per Boysen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:23 AM, mark francombe &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com"><a href="mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@markfrancombe.com</a></a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; stomp box reverb<br>
<br>
The guitarists of Explosions In The Sky told me they both use a Boss<br>
RV3. Not manufactured anymore but of course available second hand.<br>
They got recommended the RV3 by Josh Pearson of Lift To Experience<br>
("the RV3 teases the angels to start singing"). Anyone that knows<br>
these bands/musicians knows what this box sounds like.<br>
<br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href="http://www.boysen.se" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a></a><br>
<a href="http://www.perboysen.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a></a><br>
<a href="http://www.looproom.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.looproom.com">www.looproom.com</a></a> internet music hub<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com"><a href="http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a></a><br><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com"><a href="http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a></a><br>twitter @markfrancombe<br>

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great news. there's hope!

2010/8/29 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>:
> I was delighted that loop festivals now show up even in my neighbourhood
> (well, in Cologne) independent of me (I organized the first loopfestival =
in
> Cologne 2 years ago) and apparently independent of this list. Thanks to
> Christo Jota who posted this date here, I went to the loopsoup festival
> yesterday and quite liked it.
> http://www.con-area.de/LS1/loopsoup1.htm
> The evening had 5 solo acts all of which did very different and interesti=
ng
> kinds of music. I must say that it inspired me so much that I'm now think=
ing
> of organizing the 2nd festival in Cologne next spring.
>
> -Michael
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>



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m=E0quina i resulta que ni tan sols em diu si s=F3c un Buda o no, =F2sties!=
,
no podien posar-li una agulla , o que pitara, o alguna cosa aix=ED? "


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Well, there's lots of alternatives for a reverb or a delay or a 
tremolo/cutter thing.

Tremolo/Cutter thing: there have been a lot of positive things said 
about the Boss Slicer. It's one of their double pedals, so slightly 
bigger than two Bosses.
I played around a little with one and liked it so much that I actually 
decided to model one with my Nord Modular.
I think Rick Walker and Michael Peters are the experts for this thing 
around here.

Reverb/Delay: the EH SMM w/Hazari has delay plus some kind of fake 
reverb (which is kinda cool) - plus a looper with varispeed.
> Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or 
> tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the 
> floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses.. 
> <http://www.looop.no>


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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:39 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> and Per... is this thing about the Boss RV3 that they've gone and done what
> Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and
> available in my local boutique..

I don't know. I would know if I had used them both. But that won't
happen since I'm a laptop guy.


> Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?

That was no "rumour". That was pure opinion from some credible folks
that are deeply into reverb pedals played live.

per

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Hello,

I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex =
piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.  Was it here? I can't find it...

Thanks,

Doc=

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I have the Hermida reverb pedal. It just has a set reverb time with one nob 
 to set the amount of it. It is basic but sounds good and was $99. It's a 
bit  bigger than a boss, less than two, powers with a power supply that comes 
with  [the input/output is at the head of unit and the power is on the 
right side]. I  think you purchase direct only. 
 
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mark francombe wrote:
> Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or 
> tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the 
> floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
> 

a wild card alternative would be the 
EH Octave Multiplexer.
(fits the space, and you won't be able to
  get it out of your rig once it's in there)

andy

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The ones I've tried are:

  TC Nova reverb: I bought one of these , the reverbs are nice and  
lush and you can have both a manual setting and a preset setting so  
with the push of a switch you could go from a mild spring simulation  
to sounding like you are yodeling from the top of the Fjord,  big and  
expansive, and one of the cleanest pedal verbs I've tried. more  
expensive than the others with the exception of the Tone Candy Spring  
Fever.

Digitech hardwire reverb RV7:  another excellent one with a lexicon  
chip. Digitechs hardwire series are really good sounding, well built  
pedals. reasonably priced in the states

Line 6 verbzilla  also very good sounding,  with almost as much  
versatility as the Nova reverb and with a couple of specialty sounds  
not found on the others like the Octo setting and a ducking verb as  
well. with a very robust chassis, best pedal in a bar fight as i like  
to say, if you hit someone with it they would know it. affordable

  EH holy grail:  good sound for a one trick pony, one knob simple as  
the come and wont cause explosion sounds when you kick it.  the more  
expensive models have more features but take up more real estate.

Tone candy spring fever: another on trick pony with a twist, it has a  
variable boost so when you turn it on it can also give you as nice  
volume increase as well. A really good spring sim, and would be ideal  
for the surf guitarist looking to add more hair to solos. Expensive,  
but hand made of the best components. Slightly noisy at higher volumes.

Hermida Audio Reverb: from the guy who brought the world the Zendrive,  
my favorite overdrive, this one knob pedal sounds very good and is  
only $99 direct.

Since i really like big ECM style reverb the TC Digitech or the  
verbzilla, have the most appeal for me because each  has more  
adjustable parameters and a wider range of reverb sims, but if all you  
need is a good spring sound then any of the others would be great with  
the EH  holy grail, the Hermida Reverb, and the Tone Candy Spring  
Fever all doing an excellent job mimicing springs.
  Bill

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The RV3 sounds huge because it has both reverb and delay that can be combined. 
Good for 'unreal' sounds! The RV5's just reverb, with an interesting 'modulate' 
setting.
I like the Line 6 Verbzilla because you can pre delay the reverb. The TC Nova 
has this option also.
-jan



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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:39 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> and Per... is this thing about the Boss RV3 that they've gone and done what
> Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest, and
> available in my local boutique..

I don't know. I would know if I had used them both. But that won't
happen since I'm a laptop guy.


> Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?

That was no "rumour". That was pure opinion from some credible folks
that are deeply into reverb pedals played live.

per


      
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>The RV3 sounds huge because it has both reverb and delay that can be combined. Good for 'unreal' sounds! The RV5's just reverb, with an interesting 'modulate' setting.</div><div>I like the Line 6 Verbzilla because you can pre delay the reverb. The TC Nova has this option also.</div><div>-jan</div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Per Boysen &lt;perboysen@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, August 29, 2010 7:41:12 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:
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I saw a video interview with the guys from Isis, and one of them basicly
said the RV-3 was the better pedal...

I see a lot of folks list it/recommend it but not much mention of the
RV-5...

> > and Per... is this thing about the Boss RV3 that they've gone and done
what
> > Boss usually do and released an inferior pedal? The RV5 is the latest,
and
> > available in my local boutique..
>
> I don't know. I would know if I had used them both. But that won't
> happen since I'm a laptop guy.
>
>
> > Or.. was the rumour you heard that the RV3 was... "godlike"?
>
> That was no "rumour". That was pure opinion from some credible folks
> that are deeply into reverb pedals played live.
>

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any z3 users out there using unisyn for pc? i just picked up a z3 and need 
an editor/librarian. i've been reading that the pc version of unisyn is 
buggy, crashes alot, or doesn't work at all. i'd still like to try it out if 
someone has a copy or a link they could send me. or maybe there are other 
editors out there? i'm really enjoying the tracking on the z3. almost as 
good as my gr300(analogue content), and better than the ibanez system which 
i had always thought was pretty good until i tried the z3. all i need now is 
to get in there and turn the pianos into a bog of frogs or vogonian 
demolition beams...

thanks,
shayne 

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paul sold me his korg z3 recently. a great guy to do business with anytime.
thanks, paul!

shayne

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please take me out of the newsletter :)

thanks!

i change my email ;)

have fun looping!

love and music,

rico.







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It begins.

toby
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> please take me out of the newsletter :)
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> 
> i change my email ;)
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> have fun looping!
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> love and music,
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Rico, before peopel start teasing you, please go to Loopers-delight.com to
find unsubscribing instructions..

You joined, so YOU have to leave... there no owner or moderator to do it for
you...

cheers Mark

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, rico diessner <rico@ricoloop.com> wrote:

> please take me out of the newsletter :)
>
> thanks!
>
> i change my email ;)
>
> have fun looping!
>
> love and music,
>
> rico.
>
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>
>


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Rico, before peopel start teasing you, please go to Loopers-delight.com to =
find unsubscribing instructions..<br><br>You joined, so YOU have to leave..=
. there no owner or moderator to do it for you...<br><br>cheers Mark<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, rico diessn=
er <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rico@ricoloop.com">rico@ricoloop=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding=
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please take me out of the newsletter :)<br>
<br>
thanks!<br>
<br>
i change my email ;)<br>
<br>
have fun looping!<br>
<br>
love and music,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
rico.<br>
<br>
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<br>
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r><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markf=
rancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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On Aug 29, 2010, at 1:40 PM, mark francombe wrote:

> Rico, before peopel start teasing you, please go to Loopers- 
> delight.com to find unsubscribing instructions..
>

Didn't there used to be unsubscribing instructions at the bottom of  
every message? Or maybe not. lol

Jeff

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Try Graphtech Guitar Labs

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex piezo
> pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.  Was it here? I can't find it...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doc
>

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Try Graphtech Guitar Labs<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29,=
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Hello,<br>
<br>
I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex piezo=
 pickups for guitars, mandos, etc. =A0Was it here? I can&#39;t find it...<b=
r>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Doc<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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here's the instructions to do that:

http://www.loopersdelight.com/list/LoopList.html

...and also to re-join with your new email ;-)



andy butler

rico diessner wrote:
> please take me out of the newsletter :)
> 
> thanks!
> 
> i change my email ;)
> 
> have fun looping!
> 
> love and music,
> 
> rico.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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=0A=0AI save off everything interesting from LD, as luck would have it I fo=
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al" <HDean@wcupa.edu>=0ATo: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" <Loopers-=
Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0ASent: Fri, October 9, 2009 9:31:48 AM=0ASubj=
ect: RE: hexaphonic pickup=0AI=E2=80=99ve been interested in this for years=
, and have contacted Richard McLish at =0Aleast once a year about the fanou=
t box=E2=80=A6 his response is always that he is having =0Atrouble getting =
quality manufacturing lined up. I don=E2=80=99t think his heart is in =0Ait=
, and I doubt we are going to see any more RMC fanout boxes on the market. =
Too =0Abad, because it is exactly what you=E2=80=99re looking for and a gre=
at product.=0A =0AThat said, others have noted that there are instructions =
online for how to build =0Ayour own. They are at the Unfretted site: =0Ahtt=
p://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout.=0A =0AMe, I=E2=80=
=99ve never wanted to devote the time to becoming really good at the skills=
 =0Arequired to make such a thing. I joined mfg.com at one point, looking t=
o post =0Aspecs and drawings and solicit prices for making some of these, b=
ut never =0Apursued it. If anyone were interested in ganging together to fa=
cilitate that, I =0Awould be all ears.=0A =0AAs for hexaphonic pickups, I c=
an testify on a broad range. I have a Casio =0ANG-500, two Godins with fact=
ory-installed RMC systems (Multiac and LGXT), a =0Acustom classical with RM=
C system that includes the outboard processor, a PRS =0Awith a Ghost Grapht=
ech system, and a beat up Fernandes Vertigo with a Roland =0AGK-2. The Casi=
o output is straight MIDI, and surprisingly good. All the other =0Ainstrume=
nts go into a Roland GI-10 to convert the 13-pin to MIDI.  The GI-10 is =0A=
viewed as slightly primitive, particularly by Axxon fans, though I think in=
 =0Aterms of response it is the equivalent of the more frequently used GI-2=
0.  The =0AAxxon AX100 (I think that is their top-of-the-line model) is exp=
ensive, and I =0Aoccasionally look for a deal on one on Ebay, but honestly =
most of the time I =0Afind the GI-10 adequate for what I do. In my opinion,=
 RMC and Graphtech are =0Aequivalent, and a well-set-up Roland GK-2 or -3 i=
s close.  One last note =E2=80=93 I use =0Aa Peavy 1600x and made a patch t=
o change parameters on the GI-10=E2=80=A6 it is a =0Agodsend, makes possibl=
e very swift reassignment of basic channel, sensitivity =0Asettings, mono v=
s. poly, octave, etc.  How you would do this with another MIDI =0Acontrolle=
r, I don=E2=80=99t know, but maybe you are not really concerned about MIDI =
=0Aanyway.=0A =0AWhich leads to the question, Erdem, for what do you want t=
his system?  =0ASuper-accurate translation so you can generate scores with =
very little =0Aafter-the-playing corrective work?  Or are you just looking =
to split your string =0Asignals?=0A =0ANote that no hexaphonic pickup syste=
m has a really wonderful guitar signal =0Aoutput.  Typically the guitar sig=
nal is separate; some systems can blend the =0Ahexaphonic pickup output (su=
mmed) with your guitar pickups=E2=80=99 output. That said, =0AErdem, I imag=
ine you are going to be mangling the sound form each split-out =0Astring, s=
o having the best possible guitar signal may not be really important, =0Aho=
wever much you might wish for it.  you can still have your regular pickups =
=0Aproviding that =E2=80=9Cbest possible sound=E2=80=9D.=0A =0AHal Dean=0A =
=0AFrom:Toby G [mailto:carpet8@mac.com] =0ASent: Thursday, October 08, 2009=
 6:22 PM=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASubject: Re: hexaphoni=
c pickup=0A =0AThere are cheap gk-2 pickups on ebay.  You could get access =
to the wires before =0Athey enter the processing card on the triangular box=
y part.=0A =0A\t=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom:Ricky Graham =0ATo:=
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent:Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:13=
 PM=0ASubject:Re: hexaphonic pickup=0A =0AHi Erdem,=0A =0AI'd recommend Gra=
phtech and you can build your own breakout box easily enough. =0AAlso, chec=
k out Keith =0AMcMillens Stringport.=0ARicky=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0A=
On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:32, "Erdem Helvacioglu" <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:=0AHi=
,=0A =0AI am looking for a hexaphonic pickup with a breakout box with 6 out=
puts. will =0Aconnect these outputs directly to my laptop-audiomulch setup =
for processing the =0Aindividual guitar strings seperately. any ideas about=
 various products?=0A =0Afound this on the net. but i am not sure how good =
it is.=0Ahttp://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/=0A =0Athanks and best.=0A Erdem Hel=
vacioglu=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0A=0A      
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t-size:12pt"><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new =
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I save off everything interesting from =
LD, as luck would have it I found the thread:<span style=3D""><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D""><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
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&quot;;">-----=0AForwarded Message ----<br>=0A<b>From:</b> "Dean, Hal" &lt;=
HDean@wcupa.edu&gt;<br>=0A<b>To:</b> "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"=
=0A&lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Fri, Octo=
ber 9, 2009 9:31:48 AM<br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> RE: hexaphonic pickup</span><s=
pan style=3D""><o:p></o:p></span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I=E2=80=99ve been interested in this for yea=
rs, and have contacted=0ARichard McLish at least once a year about the fano=
ut box=E2=80=A6 his response is=0Aalways that he is having trouble getting =
quality manufacturing lined up. I=0Adon=E2=80=99t think his heart is in it,=
 and I doubt we are going to see any more RMC=0Afanout boxes on the market.=
 Too bad, because it is exactly what you=E2=80=99re looking=0Afor and a gre=
at product.</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
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(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That said, others have noted that there are in=
structions online=0Afor how to build your own. They are at the Unfretted si=
te: <a href=3D"http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout">=
http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=3D/profs/breakout</a>.</span></p>=
=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;=
</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 12=
5);">Me, I=E2=80=99ve never wanted to devote the time to becoming really go=
od=0Aat the skills required to make such a thing. I joined <a href=3D"http:=
//mfg.com/" target=3D"_blank">mfg.com</a> at one point, looking to post spe=
cs and drawings=0Aand solicit prices for making some of these, but never pu=
rsued it. If anyone=0Awere interested in ganging together to facilitate tha=
t, I would be all ears.</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As for hexaphonic pickups, I can te=
stify on a broad range. I=0Ahave a Casio NG-500, two Godins with factory-in=
stalled RMC systems (Multiac and=0ALGXT), a custom classical with RMC syste=
m that includes the outboard processor,=0Aa PRS with a Ghost Graphtech syst=
em, and a beat up Fernandes Vertigo with a=0ARoland GK-2. The Casio output =
is straight MIDI, and surprisingly good. All the=0Aother instruments go int=
o a Roland GI-10 to convert the 13-pin to MIDI.&nbsp;=0AThe GI-10 is viewed=
 as slightly primitive, particularly by Axxon fans, though I=0Athink in ter=
ms of response it is the equivalent of the more frequently used=0AGI-20.&nb=
sp; The Axxon AX100 (I think that is their top-of-the-line model) is=0Aexpe=
nsive, and I occasionally look for a deal on one on Ebay, but honestly most=
=0Aof the time I find the GI-10 adequate for what I do. In my opinion, RMC =
and=0AGraphtech are equivalent, and a well-set-up Roland GK-2 or -3 is clos=
e.&nbsp;=0AOne last note =E2=80=93 I use a Peavy 1600x and made a patch to =
change parameters on=0Athe GI-10=E2=80=A6 it is a godsend, makes possible v=
ery swift reassignment of basic=0Achannel, sensitivity settings, mono vs. p=
oly, octave, etc.&nbsp; How you would=0Ado this with another MIDI controlle=
r, I don=E2=80=99t know, but maybe you are not=0Areally concerned about MID=
I anyway.</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(3=
1, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; c=
olor: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Which leads to the question, Erdem, for what do yo=
u want this=0Asystem?&nbsp; Super-accurate translation so you can generate =
scores with very=0Alittle after-the-playing corrective work?&nbsp; Or are y=
ou just looking to=0Asplit your string signals?</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Note that no=
 hexaphonic pickup system has a really wonderful=0Aguitar signal output.&nb=
sp; Typically the guitar signal is separate; some=0Asystems can blend the h=
exaphonic pickup output (summed) with your guitar=0Apickups=E2=80=99 output=
. That said, Erdem, I imagine you are going to be mangling the=0Asound form=
 each split-out string, so having the best possible guitar signal may=0Anot=
 be really important, however much you might wish for it.&nbsp; you can=0As=
till have your regular pickups providing that =E2=80=9Cbest possible sound=
=E2=80=9D.</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(=
31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Palatino Linotype&quot;,&quot;serif=
&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hal Dean</span></i></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>=0A=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"> Toby =
G=0A[mailto:carpet8@mac.com] <br>=0A<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 08, 2009=
 6:22 PM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>=0A<b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: hexaphonic pickup</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp=
;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-fami=
ly: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">There=0Aare cheap gk-2 picku=
ps on ebay.&nbsp; You could get access to the wires before=0Athey enter the=
 processing card on the triangular boxy part.</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"M=
soNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">\t</span></p>=
=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">-----=0AOriginal Message ----- </=
span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background: none repeat scro=
ll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
"> <a href=3D"mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank" tit=
le=3D"rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:rock.guitar.guru@b=
tinternet.com">Ricky Graham</a> </span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;">To:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"> <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@=
loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-del=
ight.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-De=
light@loopers-delight.com</a>=0A</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;">Sent:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"> Thursday, October=0A08, 2009 3:1=
3 PM</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10=
pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Subject:</span>=
</b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;"> Re: hexaphonic=0Apickup</span></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Erdem,</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'd recommend Graphtech =
and you can build your own breakout=0Abox easily enough. Also, check out Ke=
ith&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">Mc=
Millens Stringport.</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ricky</p>=0A=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><br>=0ASent from my iPhone</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><br>=0AOn 8 Oct 2009, at 22:32, "Erdem Helvac=
ioglu" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net" target=3D"_blank" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net">erdemhel@tnn.net</a>&gt;=0Awrote:</p>=0A=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">I am looking for a hexaphonic pickup with a breakout box=
=0Awith 6 outputs. will connect these outputs directly to my laptop-audiomu=
lch=0Asetup for processing the individual guitar strings seperately. any id=
eas about=0Avarious products?</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">found this on the net. but i am not sure how good=
 it is.</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://ubertar.com/hexap=
honic/">http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/</a></p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">thanks and best.</p>=0A=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A=0A<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family:=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Erdem Helvacioglu</span><b=
r><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-siz=
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If you were looking for an electric hexaphonic pickup I think you may 
be refering to http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/

Paul haslem
www.dulcify.ca




At 04:59 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:
>Try Graphtech Guitar Labs
>
>On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi 
><<mailto:docittern@gmail.com>docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting 
>hex piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.  Was it here? I can't find it...
>
>Thanks,
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>Doc
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If you were looking for an electric hexaphonic pickup I think you may be
refering to
<a href="http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/" eudora="autourl">
http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/</a><br><br>
Paul haslem<br>
<a href="http://www.dulcify.ca/" eudora="autourl">www.dulcify.ca<br><br>
<br><br>
<br>
</a>At 04:59 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Try Graphtech Guitar
Labs<br><br>
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&lt;<a href="mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>Hello,<br><br>

<dd>I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex
piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.&nbsp; Was it here? I can't find
it...<br><br>

<dd>Thanks,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>

<dd>Doc<br>
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Interesting stuff, but that's not the one.  It was primarily for =
acoustic instruments.  Thanks

On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:

> Try Graphtech Guitar Labs
>=20
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> =
wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex =
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> Thanks,
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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Interesting stuff, but that's not the one. &nbsp;It was primarily for acoustic instruments. &nbsp;Thanks<div><br><div><div>On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Try Graphtech Guitar Labs<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello,<br>
<br>
I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc. &nbsp;Was it here? I can't find it...<br>
<br>
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Unfortunately I couldn´t make it on Saturday. Yes, it´s always inspiring 
watching
live-looping. Last time I wanted to watch a live-performance of Alexander , 
the
Viola-looping guy, who was supposed to play on last saturday too, he had big
problems with his set up. Something didn´t work and I had to go without 
seeing him.
I remember he was using a boss RC 50 and a lot of other devices.
How was it this time? Did it work?

www.christojota.de


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> I was delighted that loop festivals now show up even in my neighbourhood
> (well, in Cologne) independent of me (I organized the first loopfestival 
> in
> Cologne 2 years ago) and apparently independent of this list. Thanks to
> Christo Jota who posted this date here, I went to the loopsoup festival
> yesterday and quite liked it.
> http://www.con-area.de/LS1/loopsoup1.htm
> The evening had 5 solo acts all of which did very different and 
> interesting
> kinds of music. I must say that it inspired me so much that I'm now 
> thinking
> of organizing the 2nd festival in Cologne next spring.
>
> -Michael
> 

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My rig essentially needs 4 stereo inputs. I've got these (and more) 
on my behringer mixer, but a) it's quite large and b) I don't need 
any of the mono channels. The XLR inputs are no use either..

I don't want a rack unit, since I "play" the mixer like an instrument 
and need it flat in front of me.

Does anyone know of a modestly sized mixer with 4 or more stereo 
(only) channels, real faders (not rotaries) and a couple of aux 
sends?

I've trawled the web for many moons, but here's hoping!


Nick Robinson

music site : 	http://www.nickrobinson.info/music
myspace site :	http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops
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Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what 
most acoustics are using. http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html

Paul
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At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:
>Interesting stuff, but that's not the one.  It was primarily for 
>acoustic instruments.  Thanks
>
>On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:
>
>>Try Graphtech Guitar Labs
>>
>>On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi 
>><<mailto:docittern@gmail.com>docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting 
>>hex piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.  Was it here? I can't find it...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Doc
>>

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Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what most
acoustics are using.
<a href="http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html</a><br><br>
Paul<br>
<a href="http://www.dulcify.ca/" eudora="autourl">www.dulcify.ca<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
</a>At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Interesting stuff, but that's
not the one.&nbsp; It was primarily for acoustic instruments.&nbsp;
Thanks<br><br>
On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Try Graphtech Guitar
Labs<br><br>
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&lt;<a href="mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>Hello,<br><br>

<dd>I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex
piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.&nbsp; Was it here? I can't find
it...<br><br>

<dd>Thanks,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>

<dd>Doc<br>
</font><br>

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I do believe that's the one - Thanks a lot!

On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:07 PM, paul wrote:

> Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what =
most acoustics are using. http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html
>=20
> Paul
> www.dulcify.ca
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:
>> Interesting stuff, but that's not the one.  It was primarily for =
acoustic instruments.  Thanks
>>=20
>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:
>>=20
>>> Try Graphtech Guitar Labs
>>>=20
>>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>=20
>>> I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting =
hex piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.  Was it here? I can't find =
it...
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Doc
>>>=20


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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I do believe that's the one - Thanks a lot!<div><br><div><div>On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:07 PM, paul wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Ah, then you're probably looking for the RMC pickups, which is what most
acoustics are using.
<a href="http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.rmcpickup.com/acousticgold.html</a><br><br>
Paul<br>
<a href="http://www.dulcify.ca/" eudora="autourl">www.dulcify.ca<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
</a>At 11:35 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Interesting stuff, but that's
not the one.&nbsp; It was primarily for acoustic instruments.&nbsp;
Thanks<br><br>
On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Ricky Graham wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Try Graphtech Guitar
Labs<br><br>
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, doc rossi
&lt;<a href="mailto:docittern@gmail.com">docittern@gmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>Hello,<br><br>

</dd><dd>I recall a post with a link to company that made some interesting hex
piezo pickups for guitars, mandos, etc.&nbsp; Was it here? I can't find
it...<br><br>

</dd><dd>Thanks,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>

</font></dd><font color="#888888"></font><dd><font color="#888888">Doc<br>
</font><br>

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If I had the money and connections (not Neutrik, the other kind of
connections...) I would set up a highway chase with speeding police cars and
helicopters, that would end just outside the venue.

- our reporter Jim Looper from our station's helicopter...Jim, do we know if
the driver has any demands?
- actually, yes...he is throwing leaflets outside the car windows...
- and what do the leaflets say?
- they say "COME TO THE Y2K-X LOOP FESTIVAL"...oh, wait, there is another
note inside...
- what does it say?
- "CIA HAS A FULL TRACK LOOPER WITH BALANCED IN/OUTS AND MIDI CONTROL - IT
WEIGHTS 100 GRAMS AND WORKS WITH AIR - NO POWER SUPPLY"

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If I had the money and connections (not Neutrik, the other kind of connecti=
ons...) I would set up a highway chase with speeding police cars and helico=
pters, that would end just outside the venue.<br><br>- our reporter Jim Loo=
per from our station&#39;s helicopter...Jim, do we know if the driver has a=
ny demands?<br>

- actually, yes...he is throwing leaflets outside the car windows...<br>- a=
nd what do the leaflets say?<br>- they say &quot;COME TO THE Y2K-X LOOP FES=
TIVAL&quot;...oh, wait, there is another note inside...<br>- what does it s=
ay?<br>

- &quot;CIA HAS A FULL TRACK LOOPER WITH BALANCED IN/OUTS AND MIDI CONTROL =
- IT WEIGHTS 100 GRAMS AND WORKS WITH AIR - NO POWER SUPPLY&quot;<br>

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If your *professional audio card* is not able to provide you with a stereo
mix, then something is broken, either in the software or hardware domain. It
is not RIAA's or IFPI's fault, either way.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:

>  Thanks Louie.  Another issue that's not been discussed here affects us
> even more: the covert elimination of "Stereo Mix" from sound card drivers,
> thanks to our old pals at the RIAA.  Once again, the RIAA and its cronies
> are attempting to eliminate our ability to record our own work, while
> preparing to whine about how the presence of a "Stereo Mix" option on
> Recording Devices constitutes an invitation to steal (aka "piracy", which
> the RIAA and IFPI continue to manically claim is the sole cause of reduced
> sales).
>
>  *From:* Louie Angulo <louie.angulo@googlemail.com>
> interesting view of it:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q25-S7jzgs
>
> cheers
> Luis
>

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If your <u>professional audio card</u> is not able to provide you with a st=
ereo mix, then something is broken, either in the software or hardware doma=
in. It is not RIAA&#39;s or IFPI&#39;s fault, either way.<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Stephen Goodman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net">spgoodman@earthlight.net</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





<div style=3D"padding-left: 10px; padding-right: 10px; padding-top: 15px;" =
name=3D"Compose message area">
<div><font face=3D"Calibri">Thanks Louie.=C2=A0 Another issue that&#39;s no=
t been=20
discussed here affects us even more: the covert elimination of &quot;Stereo=
 Mix&quot; from=20
sound card drivers, thanks to our old pals at the RIAA.=C2=A0 Once again, t=
he=20
RIAA and its cronies are attempting to eliminate our ability to record our =
own=20
work, while preparing to whine about how the presence of a &quot;Stereo Mix=
&quot; option=20
on Recording Devices constitutes an invitation to steal (aka &quot;piracy&q=
uot;, which the=20
RIAA and IFPI continue to manically claim is the sole cause of reduced=20
sales).</font></div>
<div style=3D"font: 10pt Tahoma;">
<div><font face=3D"Calibri" size=3D"3"></font><br></div>
<div style=3D"background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(245, 245, 245);">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"louie.angulo@googlemail.com" href=3D"mailto:l=
ouie.angulo@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">Louie Angulo</a>=20
</div></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">interesting view of it:=
<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7Q25-S7jzgs" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7Q25-S7jzgs</a><br><br>cheers<br>L=
uis<br>

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> Last time I wanted to watch a live-performance of Alexander , the
Viola-looping guy, who was supposed to play on last saturday too, he had =
big
problems with his set up. Something didn=B4t work and I had to go =
without
seeing him. I remember he was using a boss RC 50 and a lot of other =
devices.
How was it this time? Did it work?

yes ... he didn't use an RC50 this time but a repeater.=20

-Michael

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nick@12testing.net schrieb:
> Does anyone know of a modestly sized mixer with 4 or more stereo 
> (only) channels, real faders (not rotaries) and a couple of aux 
> sends?
>   
Tricky because,
    a) DJ mixers usually lack sufficient aux sends,
    b) keyboard mixers are usually rackmount
    c) "normal" mixers usually have a focus on mono channels

Perhaps check out this one:
http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/US/xone92.asp

You weren't that specific regarding the number of auxes you require - 
that one has two.

          Rainer

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I've released a digital single in memory of Kim, a cover of Pink Floyd's
"Wish You Were Here": http://amzn.to/9LND2l

Hmmm, actually there's a better sample clip on my MySpace Music page:
http://mysp.ac/bMnFoq

You can find the single on several online stores, including iTunes
worldwide.  Just look it up by artist name (Violet Xoxox).  I hope some of
you will check it out and like it enough that you purchase a copy.  If you
do, I hope you'll write a review for me and recommend it to friends.

All proceeds will go toward supporting the server/Looper's Delight.

Kim was so supportive of my working on music and this is my first ever
official release.  I DO wish he were here to see it.  I wish that so much.
I know he would be proud of me.  He always wanted me to do this.

Violet
xoxox

P.S.  If anyone really really REALLY wants the song and can't afford to buy
it, contact me and I'll give you a copy.

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Last price drop and post before eb*y...


Roland SP808EX unit. Sampler, mliteffects processor, digital recorders,
DBeam unit with midi. A really cool unit with lots of potential for loops,
beats, live recording or even performance.

This is a fully updated SP808EX with 250 MG zip drive and extra disks with
the original manual. In top shape.

Pictures and more info up at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
(Note: I have it listed there at it's normal selling price of $325 so
please mention this post/list and I'll give you the $250 plus shipping
price).


I'm dropping the price to sell it NOW (as in today or tomorrow) after that
it's up for bid starting higher so please, serious buyers with $$ now
please email asap. I can take paypal or USPS MO and am located in phila PA
for pickup otherwise buyer pays shipping.

I am selling a few things and despite it's coolness factor I am using my
old Ensoniq keyboard sequencers and samplers these days more than anything
else.

Any questions let me know.  Thanks





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Howdy,
 Where the heck do you find a second looping point on the "Speaks"? I've go=
t 4 I've bent and a second loop sounds cool, especially if it's longer than=
 the first.
Rig

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> From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com <legion@helpwantedproductions.com>
> Subject: FS:  Roland SP808EX - $250!! with disks.
> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>, "AH" <analog=
ue@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 12:47 PM
> Last price drop and post before
> eb*y...
>=20
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> Roland SP808EX unit. Sampler, mliteffects processor,
> digital recorders,
> DBeam unit with midi. A really cool unit with lots of
> potential for loops,
> beats, live recording or even performance.
>=20
> This is a fully updated SP808EX with 250 MG zip drive and
> extra disks with
> the original manual. In top shape.
>=20
> Pictures and more info up at: http://daedsound.com/Salez/FS.htm
> (Note: I have it listed there at it's normal selling price
> of $325 so
> please mention this post/list and I'll give you the $250
> plus shipping
> price).
>=20
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> I'm dropping the price to sell it NOW (as in today or
> tomorrow) after that
> it's up for bid starting higher so please, serious buyers
> with $$ now
> please email asap. I can take paypal or USPS MO and am
> located in phila PA
> for pickup otherwise buyer pays shipping.
>=20
> I am selling a few things and despite it's coolness factor
> I am using my
> old Ensoniq keyboard sequencers and samplers these days
> more than anything
> else.
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> Any questions let me know.=A0 Thanks
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Just bought it. Great job.

Brian


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> I've released a digital single in memory of Kim, a cover of Pink Floyd's
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> Hmmm, actually there's a better sample clip on my MySpace Music page:
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Hello everyone!

I'm currently calling out to all Canadian loopers to see if anyone is
interested in meeting up with me on the road?  I'm traveling across
the country on tour, and figured it'd be nice to meet some like-minded
individuals during my travels!  Whether it be for a beverage, a chat,
a jam, or even a show.

I'm also trying to put together a loop show on October 6th, so if
you're in Toronto and would like to play the Cameron House, let me
know!

My tour dates are all up on www.jeanpaulderoover.com

Thanks!

-- 
Jean-Paul De Roover
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(807) 251-3376

Check out the brand new video for "You"!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QnxUgGQPc

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Hi Mark
I've owned two stompbox reverbs.=20
The DigiVerb which is better than the Boss digital reverb equivelent at
the time, however it does add slight distortion at the top end, and it's
mono input only.  My current reverb pedal is the Line 6 ToneCore
VerbZilla. I use it in full stereo and it's brilliant.
-- G.

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>
>Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or
>tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
>floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
>
>Mark.

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Wow.. now THAT  Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!

Cant find a proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least 100
dollars more expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order on the net
(when I still get hit for importatin charges, but is cheaper)

Takk!! (as we say in Norway)

Mark






On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:34 AM, G <gigs@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> Hi Mark
> I've owned two stompbox reverbs.
> The DigiVerb which is better than the Boss digital reverb equivelent at
> the time, however it does add slight distortion at the top end, and it's
> mono input only.  My current reverb pedal is the Line 6 ToneCore
> VerbZilla. I use it in full stereo and it's brilliant.
> -- G.
>
> To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: stompbox reverbs?
> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200
> >
> >Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or
> >tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
> >floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
> >
> >Mark.
>
>


-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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Wow.. now THAT=A0 Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!<br><br>Cant find a=
 proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least 100 dollars more exp=
ensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order on the net (when I still g=
et hit for importatin charges, but is cheaper)<br>

<br>Takk!! (as we say in Norway)<br><br>Mark<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:34 AM, G <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gigs@paradise.net.nz">gigs@paradise.net.nz</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Mark<br>
I&#39;ve owned two stompbox reverbs.<br>
The DigiVerb which is better than the Boss digital reverb equivelent at<br>
the time, however it does add slight distortion at the top end, and it&#39;=
s<br>
mono input only. =A0My current reverb pedal is the Line 6 ToneCore<br>
VerbZilla. I use it in full stereo and it&#39;s brilliant.<br>
-- G.<br>
<br>
To: loopers-delight &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c=
om">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: stompbox reverbs?<br>
From: mark francombe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com">mark@mar=
kfrancombe.com</a>&gt;<br>
<div class=3D"im">Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt;Any recomendations for a stomp =
box reverb, or possibly delay... or<br>
&gt;tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the<br>
&gt;floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Mark.<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark franco=
mbe<br><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @=
markfrancombe<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>

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Hi there.  I have a Digitech Hardwire RV-7.  It's a stereo unit with
true bypass.  In my opinion, it feels much more solid than the
Verbzilla.  Most importantly, it sounds beautifully lush especially on
the plate setting.

Andy

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:03 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> w=
rote:
> Wow.. now THAT=A0 Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!
>
> Cant find a proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least 100
> dollars more expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order on the n=
et
> (when I still get hit for importatin charges, but is cheaper)
>
> Takk!! (as we say in Norway)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:34 AM, G <gigs@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>> I've owned two stompbox reverbs.
>> The DigiVerb which is better than the Boss digital reverb equivelent at
>> the time, however it does add slight distortion at the top end, and it's
>> mono input only. =A0My current reverb pedal is the Line 6 ToneCore
>> VerbZilla. I use it in full stereo and it's brilliant.
>> -- G.
>>
>> To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Subject: stompbox reverbs?
>> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
>> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 02:23:14 +0200
>> >
>> >Any recomendations for a stomp box reverb, or possibly delay... or
>> >tremolo/cutter thing... I know I know.. got some space left in the
>> >floorboard... small foorprint, no bigger than 2 Bosses..
>> >
>> >Mark.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> mark francombe
> www.markfrancombe.com
> www.ordoabkhao.com
> twitter @markfrancombe
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://www.looop.no
>

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Mark,

I have one, as I mentioned earlier.

The only negative I can think about the Verbzilla is that it goes  
through batteries rather quickly.

If you can power it with a plug-in power supply that takes care of  
that problem however.

But it does seem to munch 9v alkalines like there was no tomorrow  
(compared to other pedals).

But it sounds terrific though, so that's why I keep it around.

BTW, all of the same reverb settings in it are also contained in the  
Line 6 M13 (and probably the M9 too).

So if you might consider a multi FX pedal like either one of those  
you'd have the same benefit.

Cheers,

Ted

On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:03 AM, mark francombe wrote:

> Wow.. now THAT  Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!
>
> Cant find a proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least  
> 100 dollars more expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order  
> on the net (when I still get hit for importatin charges, but is  
> cheaper)
>
> Takk!! (as we say in Norway)
>
> Mark

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Apologies in advance - I've been searching but unable to find...

At one point someone had put together a step-by-step guide for programming the FCB1010 for use with the Echoplex.  Can someone post or forward a link?

If I recall, there was sort of a recommended switch layout (I realize this is all subjective), along with the expression pedals, etc.  Even a SysEx file would be great!

I've had the Echoplex (Loop iv version) and the FCB1010 (uno version) for a while, but unfortunately they've been packed away in a box.  I finally have time to set them up and enjoy.  I'm not a complete midi/gear newbie, so I think I can get through this.

I'm looking to accelerate through the technical barriers and get quickly to using the tools and making music/sounds.

Thanks!!


      

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That would be me...

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=593







On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, mark <mr_murphy_54@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Apologies in advance - I've been searching but unable to find...
>
> At one point someone had put together a step-by-step guide for programming
> the FCB1010 for use with the Echoplex.  Can someone post or forward a link?
>
> If I recall, there was sort of a recommended switch layout (I realize this
> is all subjective), along with the expression pedals, etc.  Even a SysEx
> file would be great!
>
> I've had the Echoplex (Loop iv version) and the FCB1010 (uno version) for a
> while, but unfortunately they've been packed away in a box.  I finally have
> time to set them up and enjoy.  I'm not a complete midi/gear newbie, so I
> think I can get through this.
>
> I'm looking to accelerate through the technical barriers and get quickly to
> using the tools and making music/sounds.
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no

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That would be me...<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.=
com/wordpress/?p=3D593">http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D593</a>=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div>

<div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:06 PM, ma=
rk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mr_murphy_54@yahoo.com">mr_murph=
y_54@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

Apologies in advance - I&#39;ve been searching but unable to find...<br>
<br>
At one point someone had put together a step-by-step guide for programming =
the FCB1010 for use with the Echoplex. =A0Can someone post or forward a lin=
k?<br>
<br>
If I recall, there was sort of a recommended switch layout (I realize this =
is all subjective), along with the expression pedals, etc. =A0Even a SysEx =
file would be great!<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve had the Echoplex (Loop iv version) and the FCB1010 (uno version) f=
or a while, but unfortunately they&#39;ve been packed away in a box. =A0I f=
inally have time to set them up and enjoy. =A0I&#39;m not a complete midi/g=
ear newbie, so I think I can get through this.<br>


<br>
I&#39;m looking to accelerate through the technical barriers and get quickl=
y to using the tools and making music/sounds.<br>
<br>
Thanks!!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mark francombe<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.markfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.ordoabkhao.com">www.ordoabkhao.com</a><br>twitter @markfrancomb=
e<br>

<a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br>=
<a href=3D"http://www.looop.no">http://www.looop.no</a><br>
</div>

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At 12:03 PM +0200 8/31/10, mark francombe wrote:
>Wow.. now THAT  Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!
>
>Cant find a proce right now.. have to see,=20
>everything is at least 100 dollars more=20
>expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to=20
>order on the net (when I still get hit for=20
>importatin charges, but is cheaper)

Two quick things:

I've had a Verbzilla for a couple of years now,=20
and never quite gelled with it.  The main reason=20
being that I can always hear some sort of=20
annoying digital quality to the effect.  It just=20
sounds crispy to me for some reason, and I'm=20
normally pretty forgiving when it comes to=20
digital dirt.  Also, I've noticed some tone suck,=20
especially when the trails setting is turned on.=20
Obviously though, YMMV.

Second, I've also got a Behringer RV600, which is=20
a dead-spot-on clone of the Verbzilla.  It=20
probably costs about 1/3 of the Verbzilla price,=20
and I'm sure you can find Behringer all over=20
Norway.  And while I haven't done a side-by-side=20
comparison (my Verbzilla is back in storage in=20
the US, while the RV600 is here in Japan) other=20
people have.  And judging from my memory, I'll=20
vouch that the Behringer is a 99% faithful=20
replica of the Line 6 box.

If you're in doubt at all (or just looking for a=20
great bargain at ~=A435) get the Behringer, check=20
it out, then spring for the regular pedal if you=20
like it.

	--m.
-- 
_____
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	 X  <--- you are here.

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Thanks Ted,

I think you have pretty much swung it for me...
There were some great suggestions for delays and such but I think that the
line 6 Verbzilla looks like it has what I need, and appears to have some
great reviews.

As regards power, I just got this to replace my HUGE and HEAVY flatliner  s=
o
I thought I would post this to the group

http://www.diago.co.uk/pedal-power/pedal-power/

Its pretty new and actually puts out 3 watts of power, they say thats about
30 pedals, not sure that quite true, but Im using it with 6 stomps and was
surprised to find that it powers my GR30 git synth as well!!

I still have to have a couple of those silly warts in my pedal board cos of
the idiotic AC pedals... grrrr gotta love that Space Station tho damn
thing...

Mark






On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>wr=
ote:

> Mark,
>
> I have one, as I mentioned earlier.
>
> The only negative I can think about the Verbzilla is that it goes through
> batteries rather quickly.
>
> If you can power it with a plug-in power supply that takes care of that
> problem however.
>
> But it does seem to munch 9v alkalines like there was no tomorrow (compar=
ed
> to other pedals).
>
> But it sounds terrific though, so that's why I keep it around.
>
> BTW, all of the same reverb settings in it are also contained in the Line=
 6
> M13 (and probably the M9 too).
>
> So if you might consider a multi FX pedal like either one of those you'd
> have the same benefit.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:03 AM, mark francombe wrote:
>
>  Wow.. now THAT  Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!
>>
>> Cant find a proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least 100
>> dollars more expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order on the =
net
>> (when I still get hit for importatin charges, but is cheaper)
>>
>> Takk!! (as we say in Norway)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>


--=20
mark francombe
www.markfrancombe.com
www.ordoabkhao.com
twitter @markfrancombe
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Thanks Ted,<div><br></div><div>I think you have pretty much swung it for me=
...=A0<div>There were some great suggestions for delays and such but I thin=
k that the line 6 Verbzilla looks like it has what I need, and appears to h=
ave some great reviews.</div>

<div><br></div><div>As regards power, I just got this to replace my HUGE an=
d HEAVY flatliner=A0=A0so I thought I would post this to the group</div><di=
v><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.diago.co.uk/pedal-power/pedal-power/=
">http://www.diago.co.uk/pedal-power/pedal-power/</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>Its pretty new and actually puts out 3 watts of power, =
they say thats about 30 pedals, not sure that quite true, but Im using it w=
ith 6 stomps and was surprised to find that it powers my GR30 git synth as =
well!!=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>I still have to have a couple of those silly warts in m=
y pedal board cos of the idiotic AC pedals... grrrr gotta love that Space S=
tation tho damn thing...</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div>

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=A0</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.net" target=3D"_blank">tedkillian=
@charter.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Mark,<br>
<br>
I have one, as I mentioned earlier.<br>
<br>
The only negative I can think about the Verbzilla is that it goes through b=
atteries rather quickly.<br>
<br>
If you can power it with a plug-in power supply that takes care of that pro=
blem however.<br>
<br>
But it does seem to munch 9v alkalines like there was no tomorrow (compared=
 to other pedals).<br>
<br>
But it sounds terrific though, so that&#39;s why I keep it around.<br>
<br>
BTW, all of the same reverb settings in it are also contained in the Line 6=
 M13 (and probably the M9 too).<br>
<br>
So if you might consider a multi FX pedal like either one of those you&#39;=
d have the same benefit.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Ted</font><div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:03 AM, mark francombe wrote:<br>
<br>
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Wow.. now THAT =A0Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!<br>
<br>
Cant find a proce right now.. have to see, everything is at least 100 dolla=
rs more expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to order on the net (whe=
n I still get hit for importatin charges, but is cheaper)<br>
<br>
Takk!! (as we say in Norway)<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
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heh heh..

I think my local boutique stocks behringer too, maybe I do a side by
side..!!

digital quality.. sounds GREAT!!!


M


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heh heh..<div><br></div><div>I think my local boutique stocks behringer too=
, maybe I do a side by side..!!</div><div><br></div><div>digital quality.. =
sounds GREAT!!!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>M</div><div><br>

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At 12:03 PM +0200 8/31/10, mark francombe wrote:
>Wow.. now THAT  Verbzilla looks like the one for me!!!
>
>Cant find a proce right now.. have to see,=20
>everything is at least 100 dollars more=20
>expensive here in Norway.. so I might have to=20
>order on the net (when I still get hit for=20
>importatin charges, but is cheaper)

Two quick things:

I've had a Verbzilla for a couple of years now,=20
and never quite gelled with it.  The main reason=20
being that I can always hear some sort of=20
annoying digital quality to the effect.  It just=20
sounds crispy to me for some reason, and I'm=20
normally pretty forgiving when it comes to=20
digital dirt.  Also, I've noticed some tone suck,=20
especially when the trails setting is turned on.=20
Obviously though, YMMV.

Second, I've also got a Behringer RV600, which is=20
a dead-spot-on clone of the Verbzilla.  It=20
probably costs about 1/3 of the Verbzilla price,=20
and I'm sure you can find Behringer all over=20
Norway.  And while I haven't done a side-by-side=20
comparison (my Verbzilla is back in storage in=20
the US, while the RV600 is here in Japan) other=20
people have.  And judging from my memory, I'll=20
vouch that the Behringer is a 99% faithful=20
replica of the Line 6 box.

If you're in doubt at all (or just looking for a=20
great bargain at ~=A435) get the Behringer, check=20
it out, then spring for the regular pedal if you=20
like it.

	--m.
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http://www.vokle.com/

Zoe will be playing AGAIN soon... any second now...

 get there and donate!!!

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Please forgive me for letting this fly bye me, someone posted am article about. Self promotion/production. The source was CD Baby and I believe the person posting or comenting was Andy Butler. Would you please forward the link again. I am setting up to publish my own stuff and could use some pointers.
Antony Hequet
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How to promote yourself online

http://mattstevensguitar.com/page20.htm

List of loop friendly bloggers/podcasters

http://mattstevensguitar.com/page14.htm

Hope this helps


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On 31 Aug 2010, at 21:20, Antony Hequet wrote:

> Please forgive me for letting this fly bye me, someone posted am  
> article about. Self promotion/production. The source was CD Baby  
> and I believe the person posting or comenting was Andy Butler.  
> Would you please forward the link again. I am setting up to publish  
> my own stuff and could use some pointers.
> Antony Hequet
> Poet composer
>
>
>
>


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How to promote yourself online<div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://mattstevensguitar.com/page20.htm">http://mattstevensguitar.=
com/page20.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div>List of loop friendly =
bloggers/podcasters</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://mattstevensguitar.com/page14.htm">http://mattstevensguitar.=
com/page14.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div>Hope this =
helps</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <div style=3D"font-size: 12px; =
">Matt Stevens</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12px; =
">www.mattstevensguitar.com</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12px; "><a =
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net.com</a></div><div style=3D"font-size: 12px; "><br></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 31 Aug 2010, =
at 21:20, Antony Hequet wrote:</div><br =
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style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Please forgive me for letting this fly bye me, =
someone posted am article about. Self promotion/production. The source =
was CD Baby and I believe the person posting or comenting was Andy =
Butler. Would you please forward the link again. I am setting up to =
publish my own stuff and could use some pointers.</div><div =
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Hey Everyone, In the spirit of looping, I wanted to share with you a video clip called "Kalimba Vocoder" that we just posted last night 
(although I'm aware of how you feel about the loop station I'm using in the video :) 

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Many of you have noticed that we periodically go on long rounds of
discussion about how to label the kind of music we do. Well, this is a
contribution inspired by constraints. I was booked to play the first
annual Warwick
Valley Jazz Festival<http://www.warwickvalleyjazzfest.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=47>,
mainly because I'm old friends with the originator of the concept, drummer
Steve Rubin. (Steve was in my kindergarten class - and those of you who've
met me know how long ago *that* was!)

I needed a headline for my set - putting my name up there would draw my 3
closest family members and 2 local musicians.... so I chose *Jazz
Electronica* and then tried to figure out how much of what I do could fit in
that category! I think it was a good idea, and I had a full (small) house,
which was wonderful. (of course, if i didn't have the association with the
jazz festival, i probably wouldn't have pulled that well, even with that
label)

As it turns out, my smartest move was, 2 weeks ahead of time, to figure out
that performing 2 full-length solo sets was utter folly, and I managed to
convince fellow looper Tom Ritchford, aka Tom Swirly, to perform with me. He
plays electronic woodwinds, among other things, has great melodic and also
adventurous sensibilities, and never has to be told what key I've wandered
into. We were featured in a little write-up of the fest in the Times
Herald-Record, which is the major paper for the county.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100829/NEWS/8290337 -
it's more impressive in the paper than it is online.

My first step was to start identifying drum approaches that worked with
swing time. I've been experimenting with RMX lately, and it has time
profiles which allow you to fit any of their patterns to whatever groove you
like with a pretty fair amt of flexibility. And, the compelling feature of
RMX for me is the ways in which variability (lfos and randomness) can be
easily used. I still have a lot to learn, but it's quite interesting.

I also noticed during "development" of the meta-instrument for this
performance that the Mobius plugin was far easiest to control than RMX
because of Mobius' midi inputs independent of the host. Everything in RMX
has to be mapped to a host control in order to use MIDI with it, and that's
a bit of a PITA.

btw, Tom has a formidable music collection, and you can listen in at
radio.swirly.com.

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Many of you have noticed that we periodically go on long rounds of discussi=
on about how to label the kind of music we do. Well, this is a contribution=
 inspired by constraints. I was booked to play the first annual <a href=3D"=
http://www.warwickvalleyjazzfest.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&amp;vie=
w=3Darticle&amp;id=3D19&amp;Itemid=3D47">Warwick Valley Jazz Festival</a>, =
mainly because I&#39;m old friends with the originator of the concept, drum=
mer Steve Rubin. (Steve was in my kindergarten class - and those of you who=
&#39;ve met me know how long ago *that* was!)<div>
<br></div><div>I needed a headline for my set - putting my name up there wo=
uld draw my 3 closest family members and 2 local musicians.... so I chose <=
b>Jazz Electronica</b>=A0and then tried to figure out how much of what I do=
 could fit in that category! I think it was a good idea, and I had a full (=
small) house, which was wonderful. (of course, if i didn&#39;t have the ass=
ociation with the jazz festival, i probably wouldn&#39;t have pulled that w=
ell, even with that label)</div>
<div><br></div><div>As it turns out, my smartest move was, 2 weeks ahead of=
 time, to figure out that performing 2 full-length solo sets was utter foll=
y, and I managed to convince fellow looper Tom Ritchford, aka Tom Swirly, t=
o perform with me. He plays electronic woodwinds, among other things, has g=
reat melodic and also adventurous sensibilities, and never has to be told w=
hat key I&#39;ve wandered into. We were featured in a little write-up of th=
e fest in the Times Herald-Record, which is the major paper for the county.=
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/2010=
0829/NEWS/8290337">http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D=
/20100829/NEWS/8290337</a>=A0- it&#39;s more impressive in the paper than i=
t is online.<div>
</div></div><div><br></div><div>My first step was to start identifying drum=
 approaches that worked with swing time. I&#39;ve been experimenting with R=
MX lately, and it has time profiles which allow you to fit any of their pat=
terns to whatever groove you like with a pretty fair amt of flexibility. An=
d, the compelling feature of RMX for me is the ways in which variability (l=
fos and randomness) can be easily used. I still have a lot to learn, but it=
&#39;s quite interesting.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also noticed during &quot;development&quot; of the me=
ta-instrument for this performance that the Mobius plugin was far easiest t=
o control than RMX because of Mobius&#39; midi inputs independent of the ho=
st. Everything in RMX has to be mapped to a host control in order to use MI=
DI with it, and that&#39;s a bit of a PITA.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>btw, Tom has a formidable music collect=
ion, and you can listen in at <a href=3D"http://radio.swirly.com">radio.swi=
rly.com</a>.</div></div></div>

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Excellent Kevin! Freaked me out when the vocoder came in, :) RC 50? no 
worries, some belittle my 2880 also, lol. Good job!

Jeff

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> Hey Everyone, In the spirit of looping, I wanted to share with you a video 
> clip called "Kalimba Vocoder" that we just posted last night
> (although I'm aware of how you feel about the loop station I'm using in 
> the video :)
>
> Thanks,  -Kev
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 

